2026-09-10 - Town Council Meeting

Summary

This is an automatic speech-to-text transcript; names and numbers may be misheard. It covers the open session only; the council went into closed session on two items and nothing was recorded after that until the motion to adjourn.

  • The meeting opened with a color guard from the police and fire departments and a remembrance of September 11 (the Patriot Day ceremony was set for September 11 at 9:30 a.m. downtown). Members reported on the Multimodal Transportation Advisory Board's first public-forum meeting and the county bus plan, the Peak Resilience and well-being task force's second workshop on suicide prevention, a morning lockdown at Apex High School that first responders handled, and Think Apex Day on September 12. A member asked for an update on grass clippings (added to the September 15 work session, with an item on September 22) and on the data center subcommittee.
  • The agenda and the consent agenda were approved with no changes.
  • Town Manager's report: utility disconnections resume the week of September 21 for cycle one customers and the week of October 5 for cycle two, with letters and automated calls already going out, extra staff, and extended hours at Town Hall on September 23-24 and October 7-8. Customer service call waits had risen to roughly 13-15 minutes from under a minute, and a call-back feature was being planned. The Apex Answers page is live; the Fall into Downtown series begins September 18 with a Carolina Hurricanes street hockey night; the Peakway connector is on track for a fall opening; and Salem Street streetscape work continues after a brief pause for unexpected utility conditions.
  • Town Clerk: the League of Municipalities legislative goal-setting item is coming to the work session; the Responsible Development council committee meets September 18 at 8:30 a.m. and the Public Safety committee October 1 at 3 p.m.; a columbarium waiting list is open.
  • Five proclamations were read: Hispanic Heritage Month (September 15 to October 15), National Senior Center Month, Patriot Day, Think Apex Day, and the Air Force's 79th birthday (presented to Council Member Ed Gray, an Air Force veteran).
  • Public forum: residents from the Amherst subdivision asked for a traffic signal at the Apex Peakway crossing, saying safety rather than traffic counts should drive the decision; a resident urged outreach on the town's home rehabilitation programs to keep older homes affordable; a neighbor of a pending rezoning case described plans for four apartment buildings with 132 units and raised traffic and parking concerns; a resident asked the council to reject the Axon contract on the consent agenda and opposed automated license plate readers; a Peak Academy participant praised the program; and a resident asked the town not to take youth football practice fields for development.
  • Public hearing: a voluntary annexation of a single-family home on a Chapel Road address (as heard) to gain town water and sewer was approved unanimously.
  • The council then voted to go into closed session on two items.

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01:15Alright, good evening. I would like to call the meeting to order for a regular Town Council

11:55meeting Thursday, September 10, 2026. Tonight, we're blessed to have members of the Apex

12:01Police Department, Apex Fire Department Color Guard to present the colors. If you would please

12:05stand to the colors. Please join me for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United

12:54States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with

13:01liberty and justice for all. For we continue tonight's meeting, I would like to take a moment

14:17to recognize the significance of September 11th and to honor all those whose lives were forever

14:23changed by the events of September 11th, 2001. We remember the nearly 3,000 lives that were lost,

14:29the survivors and their families, and the first responders, service members, and countless

14:35individuals who demonstrated extraordinary courage, compassion, and selflessness in the face of an

14:41imaginable tragedy. At the front of the room this evening, we have placed a rose and a candle as a

14:47simple expression of remembrance. The rose represents the lives we continue to honor and

14:55the candle serves as a symbol of remembrance, hope, and enduring light of those whose memories

15:02remain with us. As we reflect on that day, may we also remember the unity, kindness,

15:09and shared humanity that brought people together in the days and weeks that followed. We honored

15:16those we lost. We remain grateful to those who served and responded, and we continue to stand

15:23with the survivors, families, and communities who carry the memory of September 11th with them

15:31every day. May we never forget. I would like now to call upon Pastor Summit Church, APAT's campus,

15:43Pastor Trevor Forvis, if you would come up and deliver an invocation. Good evening. Thank you

15:51for allowing me to be here, counsel and people of Apex. I'm really grateful for the opportunity to

15:59be able to open us up this evening in the most fitting way through prayer, and I'm reminded just

16:06through tomorrow being 9/11, it often makes you take a step back and realize what is important,

16:15and it creates an opportunity for us this evening to remember among all of the things that will be

16:21discussed tonight, what is most important, and that is truly the gift that we are able to breathe

16:27and have life. So I'd love to be able to open us up in a word of prayer, and as I do,

16:34would also cause you to consider as well the fact a few months I'll be headed across the world into

16:40an area where a meeting like this would never be allowed to take place. And so as we consider the

16:46own things that are on our own heart within our own city, may we just approach it with a sense

16:53of gratefulness that we're in a place in a country in which we can do that. So if you would, join me

16:58as we pray together. God, thank you so much for the opportunity for all of us to be here this

17:04evening. What a gift it is that you give us a demonstration and a representation of you as a

17:11good God through local government. Lord, we thank you for our government. We thank you for our law

17:17enforcement. And, Lord, your word in First Timothy calls us to pray for those that are in

17:24positions of authority. And we do just that, God. We ask that you would go before our local city

17:30government and also our law enforcement and first responders throughout our city. Lord,

17:37that you would protect them. God, that you would guide them. That you would give them discernment

17:41and clarity. We pray, God, that you would give the council and the mayor of Apex wisdom. God,

17:49would you give them discernment? And would you give them ears to hear the people of this town

17:56and just judgment and being able to continue to lead in a manner that reflects you.

18:03Lord, we thank you for the cross. We're grateful that we have the privilege and the opportunity

18:07to know you. And, Lord, we just ask that you would go before us in this meeting. We pray in Jesus

18:13name. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Pastor Forvis. All right. And thank you again to Apex police

18:19department, Apex fire department. All right. We move now to announcements and petitions by

18:25the government body. We'll start with Mayor Pro Tem. Welcome everyone. Thank you for coming

18:30on this special Thursday edition of the effect town council meeting. I want to, you know,

18:36thankful for all the great weather we've having, all the stuff I've been seeing getting done around

18:40Apex. It's exciting. I just want to remind you, I had my office hours this morning, uh, every second

18:45Thursday, 9 a.m. at the senior center. I'm there. Then you all want to chat about any Apex. I'd love

18:51to see it. Thanks. All right. Thank you, council member. Great. Thank you, mayor. I want to say

18:56thank you again to my colleagues for, uh, once again, uh, participating in our, uh,

19:019/11 remembrance tomorrow. Um, it means a lot to be able to take the time to reflect

19:09as a community on those days. I say days because on one day we lost 3000 over the course of the

19:18wars afterwards, we lost over 4,500 service men and women. And even after that we lost countless

19:27when they came back home. I'd like you all to just take a moment to, when you are taking a

19:33moment to remember tomorrow, think about those who didn't just perish on that day, but perished on

19:40the days after and perished as a result of the effects after and the impact on their families.

19:47Unfortunately, when I said that we lost 4,500 service members, many, many more have passed away

19:54after their service due to injuries, internal and external. Take a moment to reflect on those folks

20:02who have paid the ultimate price for our freedom and take a moment to check in on those folks in

20:08your neighborhood and your neighbors and just check to see if they're doing okay. It pains me

20:14to say that unfortunately, one of the things that we've learned is that suicide is something that

20:19is very prevalent in the veteran community and it's something that we deal with a lot,

20:23something I had unfortunately the opportunity to get a reminder of last week. It's important to

20:31check in on each other. It's important to ask each other how they're doing and it's okay to

20:35tell people it's okay to not be okay. As you all remember, we had a suicide awareness prevention

20:42proclamation last month, but it's important to remember that these proclamations aren't just

20:48for the day. There's something that we need to continue to remember and I'm proud of a town

20:54that continues to do that. So to my colleagues, thank you for all that you do to keep these

20:59memories intact. Thank you Council Member Gray. Council Member Zegerman. I think most of us are

21:08old in this room are old enough to remember where we were on the day of September 11th,

21:132001. I think enough has been said on that, but I do want to invite everybody to the Memorial

21:20Service tomorrow morning in downtown Apex. But do we remember where we were last night,

21:27what we had for dinner last night? I was at the Multimodal Transportation Advisory Board

21:33committee meeting last night. This was the first or second meeting that we had invited

21:40the public or as a public forum to the committee meeting. Very excited to see somebody actually

21:45showed up and spoke to us. Some other highlights from the meeting last night was we got an update

21:51from staff on the 2035 Wake County bus plan, which includes some additional services that

21:57will serve as the Apex area. Also very excited to see that the advisory board has brought itself

22:04into the subcommittees, each with a specific focus and that they've been busy over the summer,

22:09focusing on things like the safety on the Apex Go1 bus, some infrastructure improvements and

22:16capital investments that they would like to recommend to the Council and focusing on public

22:22outreach to promote public transit as well as altered ways of transit like bicycle and

22:29pedestrian, you know, as we continue to grow out our pedestrian facilities and bike facilities

22:34in and around town. So very productive meeting last night. Again, these are open to the public.

22:41So the next one is scheduled in November and love to get more public comments at that session as

22:47well. Thank you very much. Thank you, Councilman. Councilman moved. Yes. First, I would like to

22:58echo my colleagues' words from 9/11. We show respect and remember all the lives we lost.

23:10And to remind us that our first responders are at the front lines protecting our residents

23:25every day. So they risk their own lives. So I want to show my respect to our first responders,

23:33our public safety personnel. The second thing I want to mention is that our peak resilience

23:44and well-being task force. There are lots of work behind the scenes. We are having our second

23:52workshop focused on suicide prevention, both for adults and for the young generation. So like my

24:01colleague, Ed Gray said, many, you know, adults, many veterans, they are suffering from either PTSD

24:13or some other situations. So this workshop, we have one important portion specifically for adults,

24:24suicide prevention. We have another portion for youth suicide prevention. I talked

24:33to our public school system, the director in charge of mental health. She gave me some really

24:45alarming numbers about the suicide, the lives we lost, both with students and staff. So I think

24:57it's important job for Town of Apex to help our residents, help the young generation.

25:07We are expanding our crew member team. We are also building a youth team. So our application

25:16form is live online now, thanks to Ellen. So please, if any of you are interested in learning

25:24about the knowledge, learn how to recognize early warning signs and would like to become

25:33ambassadors and volunteers to help reduce stigma, to provide the knowledge, how to fight

25:43mental struggle. So please go to our website, fill in the form and join us. Thank you so much.

25:53Thank you so much. Councilman Reese. Thank you, Mayor. Speaking of our first responders,

26:00I wanted on behalf of this board and all 86,000 residents of this town. Plus,

26:08we thank you so much for your quick action this morning at Apex High School when there was a

26:16lockdown. And it was so assuring, especially as someone who has a sophomore on that campus

26:26to know that our first responders were there and had handled the situation appropriately.

26:33And so we just extend our deepest appreciation to APD and AFD and any other first responders

26:40who were there. Speaking of, I want to say that our Chamber of Commerce is recognizing first

26:46responders at an appreciation event next Thursday morning, September 17th, 830 in the morning at

26:53the depot. And then lastly, I just want to say in remembrance, echoing my colleagues on

27:02encouraging folks to join us at the ceremony tomorrow morning downtown. If you were looking

27:08to do something with that energy, we have Think Apex Day on Saturday that you will see.

27:16There's a QR code that's going to show up here in a moment. If you've got time at 830 in the

27:20morning, we've got an event. If you got time at two o'clock in the afternoon, we've got an event.

27:24If you've got time at four o'clock, we've got something going. So please consider participating

27:30in acts of service during Think Apex Day. Thank you. Thank you. I got three quick things. The

27:37first thing I will say is reiterate what Councilmember Reese just talked about, the response to

27:41Apex High School this morning when I heard the incident. I had full confidence in that it will

27:47be handled professionally and with utmost care because I know who's over there at Apex Police

27:51Department and Apex Fire and all first responders. So thank you so much for what you do every day.

27:56Keeping this town safe. So thank you for that. One thing I do want to bring up just an update.

28:03A couple of updates I would like to see. The yard waste grass clippings. I'm getting a lot of

28:09questions. Where are we with the grass clippings as far as I know we're trying to work with a,

28:14I don't know, private company. I don't know what's going on with that.

28:17So yes, sir. On that, we will, we talked about it today. We had an item or we will have an

28:22item scheduled for the 22nd, but we've also added it to the agenda for the 15th.

28:27Okay, which is our work session so that we can talk through some of those items before it comes

28:32on the 22nd. Great, great. All right. And then my final thing is maybe this can come back as well.

28:37Maybe more, Mayor Pro Tem, you may can speak to this, the data center subcommittee. It's my

28:43understanding that we have some subcommittee members that may be rolling off or designed

28:50or something. So I'd like to have an update on that maybe by the next meeting because we're like

28:56seven months in now, five months in. All right. We have an EAB meeting, a full meeting coming up.

29:02Okay. All right. Great. Okay. All right. Thanks. All right. And that's all of the

29:06updates and announcements I have. We'll move now to the adoption of the meeting agenda.

29:14Are there any recommended changes or add-ons? Hearing none, is there a motion to approve the

29:22meeting agenda? Let's approve. Mayor Pro Tem motion. Second. Second. Zegerman. All in favor say aye.

29:27Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Consent agenda. Mr. Clerk, propose changes.

29:31No changes. No changes. All right. With that, any other? Motion to approve. All right.

29:39Whose motion is it? Zegerman? All right. Motion to Zegerman. Second. Move. Any discussion? All

29:46right. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Motion carries unanimously. We move now to

29:53town manager report, Mr. Vossberg. All right. Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, council members.

29:59I have a brief report to give. I will start with our utility billing update.

30:04As you know, we are heading into our first round of potential disconnects that has been

30:12suspended for quite some time, but those will occur the week of September 21st for cycle one

30:18customers and the week of October 5th for cycle two customers. We've already been sending out

30:25letter notices and have set up the automated phone calls, so people should start to receive those.

30:31The first round for each cycle has gone out in each of those methods. We've got additional

30:36written and phone notices that are also scheduled to go out in addition to those initial notices.

30:41Billing and collection staff, they've set up additional support staff. They're receiving

30:45assistance from other departments. We also have some part-time staff that we've used to

30:49to bolster our resources there. We have an operations plan. Sean and his team and portfolio

30:55have been working a lot to get a plan ready as we head into this to see how we can avoid as many

31:00as possible and then kind of work through it as it happens and how we can hopefully get people

31:05reconnected but also to ensure that payments can be made and payment plans put in place.

31:10The plan includes regular meetings that will identify patterns and concerns as we get into it

31:16and we can make adjustments and try to pivot. We've had multiple meetings with billing customer

31:20service field staff to discuss our process, our communications plan. Comms has been great at

31:25working with us on that and trying to get the word out. We have additional workstations set up to

31:31assist customers during peak times to minimize wait times at town hall. We are looking at extended

31:36hours and more information will come out on this but right now, September 23rd and 24th,

31:42we will have some extended hours so that people can come in and work with us on their account,

31:47either make a payment, set up a payment plan ahead of any disconnects with round one or cycle one

31:52and cycle two. We're looking at October 7th and 8th to have extended hours here at town hall

31:59so we can do the same for for cycle two. We're currently still encouraging everyone if you have

32:04a balance that you cannot pay please come in and work with us. Please work to set up a payment

32:09plan so that we can minimize disconnects as we head into this period. We also kind of dovetail

32:17with that have started as the notices have started to go out. Our call volume has picked up with Ask

32:22Apex and as usually is the case, it's Murphy's Law. We had an employee that resigned from that

32:28department and we've got an employee that's out on extended leave so we have hired some additional

32:33temporary employees to bring in and we've got offers out to a couple positions on that. They've

32:39accepted that so we're working through that process to bring them on board so we're getting

32:43those resources but I would let the the residents know that we are experiencing some extended call

32:50times. You heard me report meeting after meeting we were around a minute with our wait that is not

32:54the case right now. The last report I saw I think our average was 13 minutes on a wait so we are

33:00having people call in they're waiting five six seven minutes hanging up calling back doing the

33:04same thing getting in the queue. We've all been there on customer service items so please have

33:10patience with us as the call volume has picked up significantly. We are working through a couple

33:15of other ideas that are close to implementation. One I'll mention it it's not implemented yet but

33:21it's the where it can hold your place in line and we'll call you back. So we are working to

33:25implement that with our new technology that we have in place so hopefully we can get that up

33:29and running. But please also remember that when you do reach the Ask Apex staff they're here to

33:35help and they want to help you work through this as well. So please kind of take it easy on them

33:41and I know that a lot of frustrations are around that but they are really trying to to help and

33:45bridge that gap and see what we can do. So we'll continue to monitor that report. I do feel good

33:50that we have a plan in place and we're but we are going to experience high call volume

33:55and we're not using a call center that's outside of Apex where we've got 50 people that it's

33:58rolling to. It's our Ask Apex staff that works for the town so please have some patience with

34:04us because we're not a robust call center but it's a lot better than a lot of jurisdictions

34:08have who don't have a call center. So they are doing their best with the staff that we have on

34:12that. Okay any questions on that before I roll? Just a quick question. Forgive me the only time

34:19or two I ever had to call Ask Apex I got through pretty quickly. That's not a sales pitch. My

34:24question is when you call and you have perhaps a 13 minute is there any indication when you go on

34:30hold your approximate wait time is? I know that's a advanced feature. I'm gonna ask Sean if we have

34:36that in play. I know we've talked about that. Demetri is out right now but I don't we have our

34:45staff here from Ask Apex. We have community engagement. I don't know that it has the your

34:49wait time is five minutes or that estimate. I believe we also have an option where you can

34:54opt to leave a message. We may have that reinstituted. We had that for a time but I don't think it gives

35:01you an active wait. But right now I can put it out there that it's been about 13 to 15 minutes

35:07on average. Whereas before like when you called it was probably 51 seconds 54 seconds. So they are

35:13significantly higher. That's what I can report. Thank you. Yes sir. Any other questions on that

35:20before I move to the next? Okay. Heading into Apex answers which I mentioned at our last meeting

35:27that is now live on the town's website. So again mentioning it's your source for clear timely

35:33explanations. It'll have rolling topics. We're loading additional information on there. As other

35:38hot topics come we'll put those on. You may have some that get archived but that is the best place

35:43for some of the hot topics that are out there. And we have I think about six or seven topics on

35:49that list right now. So make sure you check that out on our town website. It's been mentioned

35:54Patriot Day celebration or ceremony sorry on the 25th anniversary of 9/11. That'll be tomorrow at

36:01930 at station one and that's our American Legion post 124 that was heavily involved in the

36:08planning for that event. Also we if you recall I came before you and asked for an additional

36:14allocation for our downtown. So I'm pleased to announce that we have started under our Love Local

36:20brand fall into downtown series. So it'll be the third Friday and we're talking September October

36:28and November. So that leaves dates of September 18th October 16th and November 20th and those

36:36are all from 5 to 8 p.m. So the first event will be next Friday and we are pleased to announce and

36:43it's on our website that it's going to be Kane's hockey night. I'll put it out there because we've

36:48got a lot of questions. This will not be where the cup comes. We are still though we're still

36:53working through that. That'll be somewhere hopefully between the 18th and when the season

36:58starts on the 29th because they have to give the cup back when season starts is what I've been

37:02told. So they're trying to get it to the towns before the season starts. So we are very close.

37:08I got another email today actually this afternoon that we should have some finalized details by

37:13tomorrow. That way we will have a couple weeks notice to put out. So the cup I'm hesitant will

37:19be coming to Apex but I can I can say that tentatively but the night on the 18th from 5

37:26to 8 it'll be in the depot parking lot in downtown Apex and it's a kickoff to like I said our our

37:32new fall into downtown series. It'll be a night with the Carolina Hurricanes and as you know we

37:37have an ongoing relationship with them related to street hockey and they were great sponsors of our

37:42street hockey rinks at our community park and so continuing that relationship with the Carolina

37:47Hurricanes. They are bringing an entire event to us and it'll be downtown. We want you to support

37:55our shops. They're going to have the mascot there Stormy. They'll have street hockey games. It's a

37:59kickoff to the registration for street hockey which starts on Monday. So they're here to celebrate

38:04that partnership with us and to get people excited about signing up for street hockey.

38:09I'm told you'll be able to do street hockey there. Don't bring your gear. They're going to bring all

38:13the gear. They're bringing a truck full of gear for people to use. For safety purposes you have

38:18to use their gear and not bring your own or they're going to be inflatables. They're going

38:22to have a DJ with music playing. So it's going to be a great time and hopefully people will take

38:26the opportunity of being downtown to then support our downtown businesses. We've been working with

38:31the small group of the task force and they are excited. They've been communicating with the

38:36businesses as well as through our economic development staff and everyone is doing different

38:41promotions. They're going to get excited about hurricanes. You'll see jerseys maybe hanging up

38:44in different store windows. So there's a lot of synergy around this event and it's going to be a

38:49great time. So please come out to the event, support our downtown restaurants and retail as

38:55well. So that'll be the first. We've got exciting things planned for the subsequent dates in October

39:00and November but I'll have more to come on that soon. So that's a big event for us next Friday.

39:07The Pequay Connector, again exciting news. They've given me all the activity that's happening

39:12there. I won't go into the retaining walls and everything that's being done. We are still on

39:16track for October/November. I don't have a firm date on that yet but as you can imagine they are

39:23going through that punch list of getting things done but we are still looking for a fall opening

39:27of the Pequay Connector. So that is exciting news as well. The Salem streetscape project

39:35continues on. There was some people have asked about there was a brief stop of work.

39:40That happens in the course of a project. There was a little initial when they opened up the

39:46road. It's like all right let's assess what do we have. We've got some older pipes in here. We've

39:50got some surprises in here. Let's work through that. We had some special lines from one of our

39:54utility providers that were there and it wasn't where it was supposed to be. So anyway we're

39:58been working through a lot of those things but work does continue. They did also some side work

40:03of putting in a line on Chatham and so there's been a lot of stuff that's happening related to

40:09the project but they are back on and as far as I'm aware there are no additional delays to that

40:14project but they continue to work so don't get scared when you don't see people out there every

40:18day. They also are a company working on multiple projects so they may prioritize another project

40:23that day or have to get something done. It doesn't mean that we are significantly delayed on our

40:27project so that continues. I believe they've put in the foundations for the light poles now on the

40:34phase two side. We are very close to getting some of the benches and outdoor furniture on

40:39the phase one side so you'll start to see that very soon and so that is rocking along and

40:45continuing. All right and I'll say it again. Remember downtown is open for business. You don't

40:52have to wait for our event on the 18th. You can come down and come as often as you'd like to the

40:57downtown to support our businesses and I believe that is all that I have. Thank you so much for

41:02that. Yes sir. Any questions for Mr. Busberg? Here or no? Thank you. All right, town clerk's report.

41:09Yes, good evening mayor. I have three items. One is just a reminder to the council that the North

41:14Carolina League of Municipalities has begun its legislative goal-setting process. Mayor Pro Tem

41:19spoke about that at the last meeting. We will have an item for discussion at the work session

41:23next week to discuss some of the goal setting. This is an early prioritization exercise and this

41:30is more for the town to contribute to the larger statewide process so just wanted to put that on

41:36everyone's radar. We also have two council committees that have been scheduled and I think

41:40there's been some confusion with the dates so I want to make sure that that's put into clarification.

41:45The responsible development council committee is scheduled for September 18th which is a Friday

41:50at 8 30 here at Town Hall and the public safety council committee is scheduled for October 1st

41:56at 3 p.m. here at Town Hall as well and then we're also getting a lot of questions and comments

42:01about the columbarium and if individuals would like to reserve a spot there they can reach out

42:07to me and we've got a waiting list. We're hoping to open that later this year to other updates.

42:12That's it? That's it. All right, good stuff. All right, thank you for those reports. We'll

42:17move now to proclamations and special presentations. We have five proclamations tonight. This is

42:24great. All right, we'll be doing a lot of reading. It's all good. We'll start out front as we normally

42:30do. You would please join me out. All right, the first proclamation tonight is Hispanic Heritage

43:05Month September 15th through October 15th. We're excited about that Pastor Jose. Good to see you

43:11here sir and Reverend Charles Tyner the man. Good to see you also. We'll kick this off. It'll be

43:18council member Zegerman. I think that's what I have. Okay, thank you sir. All right, this

43:25proclamation for Hispanic Heritage Month 2026. Whereas National Hispanic Heritage Month is

43:32celebrated each year from September 15th to October 15th to recognize the histories,

43:37cultures, and contributions of Americans with ancestors from Spain, Mexico, the Caribbean,

43:43and Central and South America. And whereas September 15th marks the beginning of the

43:54observance as it is the anniversary of independence for Latin American countries,

43:59Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua. In addition,

44:09Mexico and Chile celebrate their independence days on September 16th and September 18th

44:15respectively. And whereas more than six percent of Apex's population is Hispanic and those

44:26individuals strengthen the town as successful business owners, artists, scientists, teachers,

44:33civic, and faith leaders and so much more. And whereas Hispanic culture is beautiful

44:45and vibrant and we are fortunate at the town to have incredible residents that are willing

44:54to share that culture and with everyone. And whereas the town of Apex is proud to host a

45:03bilingual story event, Spider Stories, Storas de Arenas on September 16th at Hunter Street Park

45:11as well as Latino Arts Festival on September 26th here at Town Hall to further share and celebrate

45:17Hispanic heritage and culture. Now therefore Ajak K. Gilbert, mayor of Apex, North Carolina,

45:27do hereby proclaim September 15th through October 15th 2026 Hispanic Heritage Month

45:34in the town of Apex. Come on. Y'all act like you're excited. All right, there you go. We're

45:41not done yet. We're not done. I just had to get a hand clap. This is exciting. And I extend my

45:46gratitude to the Hispanic community in Apex for their passion for the success and growth

45:52of our town and its residents signed on this 10th day of September by yours truly. Come on up and

45:57get the proclamation. There you go, right here. It is an honor for me to represent

47:05Fiesta Cristiana in our community. It is an honor for me to represent Fiesta Cristiana in

47:11our community. As we received this proclamation from the Town of Apex recognizing Hispanic

47:24Heritage Month, this month gives us an opportunity to celebrate our history.

47:38Our culture, our faith, our traditions, as well as many other contributions of the Hispanic

47:48Latino community. It also reminds us that our community is stronger when we recognize value

48:05and celebrate the gifts and stories of all our neighbors. We thank the Town of Apex for

48:18this recognition and for celebrating the Hispanic and Latino community, which is an important part

48:29of the life and diversity of Apex. We invite you to join us for the Apex Latino Festival,

48:46taking place on Saturday, September 26th from 3 to 7 p.m.

48:59It will be a wonderful opportunity to come together and celebrate our culture, music,

49:03food and community. I hope to see you there. Thank you.

49:16All right, next proclamation is National Senior Center Month, 2026. Councilmember Mu.

49:27Whereas National Senior Center Month observed each September is a time to recognize and celebrate

49:39the vital role senior centers play in strengthening our communities by providing

49:47opportunities for older adults to remain active, engaged, connected and independent. And whereas

49:59the Apex Senior Center, serving adults age 55 and older, provides a vibrant and inclusive community

50:05where residents can participate in a diverse array of fitness, wellness, arts, educational,

50:12social, recreational and travel opportunities designed to support active and fulfilling lives.

50:19And whereas the Apex Senior Center exemplifies the evolving role of senior centers as vibrant

50:30community hubs where older adults are not defined by age or stereotypes, but are empowered to remain

50:35active, pursue new experiences, force friendships, share their knowledge and talents and continue to

50:42thrive. And whereas in recent years, the Apex Senior Center has experienced tremendous growth

50:53with a 229 percent increase in monthly visits and a 92 percent increase in the annual program

51:01registrations from 2022 to 2025. And whereas the town of Apex is proud to have a state-of-the-art

51:16senior center for our seniors to utilize and is grateful to all of our staff members whose

51:23dedicated work ensures it can be used to the fullest extent possible. Now therefore I,

51:32Jock K. Gilbert, Mayor of Apex, North Carolina do hereby proclaim the month of September 2026,

51:39National Senior Center Month in the town of Apex and encourage all Apex adults age 55 and over

51:46to visit our senior center to see all of the things it can offer to you. And this is also from

51:53the only senior on the town council. It is my honor to present this proclamation. So

52:06so I would like to call up the following people. Please join me for the presentation.

52:10Megan Rush and recorations program supervisor Ali Pulaski, senior center manager Jamila Godfrey,

52:15assistant parts recreation and cultural resources director Chris Lindsay, Janine Chavis,

52:22Terry Edwards, Mary Lee Blatchford, Mark Blatchford, Lorraine Gogowski, Jim Gogowski,

52:28Lanyon Phan and Donald Hasenger. Please come up.

53:01It feels good.

53:14Craig Sesser, parts and rec director. Yeah, come on up, buddy.

53:33Yeah, I know. Two rows. Two rows? No. No.

54:22Next proclamation is Patriots Day 2026. Patriot Day 2026. Whereas 2026 marks the 25th anniversary

54:50of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, which brings difficult and painful emotions,

54:59memories and reflections for millions of people across the country. And whereas Patriot Day

55:13serves as an annual reminder of one of our nation's greatest tragedies and an opportunity

55:19to remember and honor the over 3000 lives that were lost on that day in this horrific attack,

55:25including nearly 500 first responders. And whereas since then the FDNY World Trade Center

55:40program reports that over 9,000 people have died from illness linked to the attacks and their

55:50aftermath, including one of the largest rescue, recovery and cleanup operations in human history.

55:59And whereas even a quarter century later, the toll exacted by these horrendous attacks

56:11of wanton violence remain heavy with health impacts from ground zero conditions,

56:16extending to thousands and emotional burdens from loss extending to millions. And whereas the town

56:27of Apex honors the lives lost 25 years ago and the life still impacted today and invite all

56:33residents to join us in remembrance for the annual Patriot Day ceremony on Friday, September 11,

56:382026 at 930 a.m. at the Downtown Service Memorial. Now, therefore, I, John K. Gilbert,

56:50mayor of Apex, North Carolina, do hereby proclaim Friday, September 11,

56:562026 Patriot Day in the town of Apex and urge all residents to join me in our responsibility

57:03to keep the memory of those who perished, those who survived, and those who bravely responded

57:09alive. I would like to ask members of the Apex Police Department, Apex Fire Department to join us

57:15up here to receive the proclamation. Thank you. Also, I'd like to call up members of the Apex

57:28American Legion Post 124. Please come up.

58:38[inaudible]

59:05[inaudible]

59:38Our next proclamation is Think Apex Day, 2026. Think Apex Day, 2026. Whereas Think Apex Day was

1:00:30established in 2017 through the vision of former council member, mayor, pro tem, Nicole Dozier,

1:00:39as a community-wide day dedicated to bringing people together through volunteer service and

1:00:45projects that strengthen and enhance the town of Apex. And whereas this year, Think Apex Day

1:00:57will host projects across the community, including Think Clean, Think Golden Games,

1:01:06Think Green, Think Create, Think Refresh, and Think Reuse. And whereas through these projects,

1:01:20volunteers across Apex will come together to beautify public spaces, support local nonprofits,

1:01:26engage with seniors, care for the environment, strengthen neighborhoods, and demonstrate the

1:01:32compassion and generosity that define our community. And whereas Think Apex Day serves as a reminder

1:01:46that when neighbors come together with a shared purpose, they can create a stronger, more vibrant,

1:01:51and more connected community for current and future generations. And whereas every act of

1:02:00service, whether large or small, has the power to make a lasting difference, inspire others to

1:02:05get involved, and strengthen the connections that make Apex speak of good living. Now therefore,

1:02:14I, Jacques Gilbert, mayor of Apex, North Carolina, do hereby proclaim Saturday, September 12th,

1:02:202026, Think Apex Day in the town of Apex, and encourage residents to participate in one of the

1:02:26many service opportunities. And always remember, there is nothing we can't accomplish when we work

1:02:32together. And I would like to call up to receive the proclamation, Brienne Gill, Community Engagement

1:02:36Manager for the town of Apex, Jimmy Torres, Community Engagement Specialist, Donald Hughes,

1:02:41Community Engagement Specialist, Megan Stevenson, Pleasant Park Operations Supervisor, Jason Jones,

1:02:48Park Operations Supervisor, Emily Bissette, Habitat for Humanity Restore, Elizabeth Workman,

1:02:54Spring Arbor of Apex, Terrence Burney Senior, Apex First Baptist, Brienne Asbill, Cambridge

1:03:01Village of Apex, and Regina Sanders, White Oak Foundation, please come up. And the man himself,

1:03:13Reverend Dr. Charles Tyner Senior.

1:03:31[inaudible]

1:03:58[inaudible]

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1:04:18[inaudible]

1:04:29[inaudible]

1:04:42[inaudible]

1:05:16Final proclamation for tonight is United States Air Force 79th birthday and our very own

1:05:54Council Member Gray, United States Air Force. I promised I wasn't going to sing the Air Force

1:06:01song, but you know, it might strike me, might strike me, just might. Whereas the Department

1:06:09of the Air Force was created when President Harry Truman signed the National Security Act of 1947.

1:06:15And the Air Force was officially established on September 18th, 1947, with the swearing in of

1:06:21its first secretary, Secretary W. Stuart Symington. And whereas prior to this change,

1:06:29the roles now fulfilled by the Air Force were performed by the United States Army

1:06:33with military use of aircraft beginning in the early 1900s and being critical

1:06:37throughout both world wars. And whereas after World War II, it was obvious the air power would

1:06:47need to be a significant part of military strategy to aid in the nation's defense and deter war,

1:06:54giving rise to the Air Force as a separate entity. And whereas through its entire history,

1:07:06the United States Air Force has played a significant role in protecting our country

1:07:13and its people, as well as pioneering significant, scientific and technological breakthroughs

1:07:22which have had applications far beyond the military and whereas the Town of Apex is grateful

1:07:33for our country's armed forces and its members across all branches and wish a very happy birthday

1:07:39to United States Air Force. Now therefore, I, Jacques K. Gilbert, Mayor of Apex, North Carolina,

1:07:47do hereby proclaim September 18th, 2026, the 79th birthday of the United States Air Force

1:07:55and extend my gratitude to all individuals who have served our country in the United States Air

1:08:00Force, including Councilmember Ed Gray. All right. So tonight, I would like to present a proclamation

1:08:16to Councilmember Ed Gray and also a surprise. I would like to invite up Air Force veteran

1:08:23Karen Devendall to receive the proclamation. Please come up.

1:10:13Congratulations to all the recipients. Thank you, colleagues, for joining

1:10:30together to read the proclamations. We'll move now to public forum and looks like we have

1:10:39eight signed up. Mr. Clerk, can you read the Town Clerk Announce process? Thank you.

1:10:48The current public participation policy states individual comments are limited to three minutes.

1:10:54The public forum comment period shall not exceed 36 minutes or 12 individual speakers, whichever

1:10:59comes first. If the sign up list exceeds 12 individual speakers or 36 minutes per the

1:11:05adopted policy, the Town Clerk will prioritize the list of speakers by those who have not spoken in

1:11:12the last 30 days. After those individuals have spoken, the list will continue in the order an

1:11:18individual signed up until the 12 individual speakers or 36 minutes is reached. Individuals

1:11:25who wish to speak will still be given an opportunity to do so at the conclusion of

1:11:30the business portion of the meeting immediately before closed session. Okay. Thank you, Mr.

1:11:37Clerk. All right. I would like to call up Robert Wareham and it looks like he's in the cade. He

1:11:44has a group. You have four more people here with you tonight? Okay, great. All right.

1:11:51Nine minutes, please. Thank you. I'll take it. All right. I appreciate the opportunity to speak

1:12:12with you folks today. I'm not really that much as far as public speaking, but I'll try to get

1:12:16through with the best of what I can. My name is Robert Wareham. I'm the president of the HOA of

1:12:21Amherst and our subdivision is back behind the post office and the Apex Peakway, which we're

1:12:34excited to have that open and ready to roll, actually splits our subdivision in half. Okay,

1:12:40and it's been like that for a number of years, but we've had one side of the subdivision going

1:12:44to the other side via crosswalk. Our pull is, our amenities is on the Bryan Drive side.

1:12:54So, the ones that are on the other side have to go across the crosswalk to access the pool and

1:13:02vice versa for the other folks. What we are concerned about is, as far as the Peakway goes,

1:13:13is not the traffic count. So, I'm sure there's been traffic count studies, will be traffic

1:13:19count studies on the Apex Peakway. For us, the concern is not the number of cars that come

1:13:25through, but the safety of our residents to go from one side of the subdivision to the other

1:13:29side of the subdivision to access the amenities or whichever. The sign which we'll have posted

1:13:39for our residents doesn't depict traffic. It depicts safety. Currently, even with that current

1:13:49crosswalk that we do have, we still have incidents of people not paying attention to the crosswalks,

1:13:54but I'm sure everybody has seen, just in driving, there's drivers that will go and not pay

1:14:00attention to the crosswalks and go right through it or turn right in front of people, pedestrians,

1:14:04trying to cross over the crosswalk. Safety is our concern. The remedy that best fits is to put

1:14:16a traffic light at that intersection. The alternatives that have been suggested when

1:14:24we talk to folks, I guess down at the DOT or whatever, was, okay, well, we can have our

1:14:30residents walk down to the, which is a quarter mile down, and cross over Chapel Hill and then

1:14:35come back and then walk this way back over, which is an impossibility because once they do that,

1:14:42there is no sidewalk that comes back down. The other alternative is to leave the crosswalk as is,

1:14:52which is with the increased traffic that we're expecting. I'm not a traffic person,

1:14:57but I'm expecting at least 30 percent increase in traffic, which is going to make that much

1:15:02more dangerous to go through there. The other alternative is to eliminate the crosswalk

1:15:07completely, which is going to make that even more dangerous because we will still have residents

1:15:11trying to cross from one side of the subdivision to the other side of the subdivision, regardless

1:15:15of if there's a crosswalk or not, and that's going to make that even much, much more dangerous.

1:15:20What we're proposing, what we're asking, is not so much what would relate to, again, like traffic

1:15:28studies as far as traffic, but the subjective side of things is that we need to secure the safety

1:15:36of our residents as they negotiate that particular crosswalk. We have 115 homes.

1:15:45We've got over 626 residents that are split by the Apex Peakway there, and what we need your help

1:15:53is that this decision cannot be dependent on traffic studies. It needs to be more subjective

1:15:59to the safety of our residents there, and that's why I'm here today, why I'm representing our HOA

1:16:07and, you know, and addressing you folks today. So thank you very much. Thank you for speaking.

1:16:12I do want to help you out a little bit. I think that [email protected],

1:16:16I don't know if that's active. Oh, okay. Thank you. Okay. I appreciate it, and I can address it.

1:16:25Thank you. Thanks for speaking. Thank you. Next speaker is Phil Welch. Three minutes. Yeah.

1:16:35Good evening, Mayor, Council members, town staff, and members of the public. My name is Phil Welch.

1:16:58I live at 1471 Bigley Floop in Apex. An objective of the 2021 affordable housing plan and last year's

1:17:10update to that plan is to encourage an increase in the inventory of homes which are affordable

1:17:17to low and moderate income households. What I've realized recently that in addition to encouraging

1:17:23the building of new affordable housing choices, we also need ways to find ways to preserve

1:17:31Apex's naturally occurring affordable homes, also known as NOAA's. Earlier this week,

1:17:38I spent a couple of hours on Google Maps and the county's property tax system, iMaps. I was

1:17:45identifying streets in our traditional neighborhoods around the downtown where NOAA's have gradually

1:17:52are gradually being replaced by lovely large homes which are not as affordable. In some cases,

1:18:00these replacements were due to the existing homes being unsafe and or unhealthy. Our goal should be

1:18:08to make sure that the owners of existing naturally occurring affordable homes know about the Apex

1:18:13Cares housing rehabilitation programs. These four programs provide loans and grants for income

1:18:22qualified homeowners and some small landlords to make critical repairs on their homes. From my

1:18:30very brief look at the traditional neighborhoods, I estimate that we may have several hundred

1:18:36naturally occurring affordable homes with homeowners that would qualify for the Apex

1:18:41Cares program. This would allow the homeowners to make accessibility upgrades such as wheelchair

1:18:47ramps and grab bars, weatherization improvements to make homes warmer and more energy efficient,

1:18:54emergency repairs such as roof or HVAC replacements and other major repairs up to $40,000. The problem

1:19:04is that many of our neighbors don't know about the Apex Cares programs and similar programs from

1:19:11the county state and local faith communities. I have flyers explaining the Apex Cares programs.

1:19:18I've attached these to the copies of my talk for everyone in the dais. I asked the mayor, council

1:19:25members, town staff and members of the public to help get out the word on this excellent program

1:19:31so our neighbors can continue to live here in safe healthy homes. I have extra copies here

1:19:38for members of the public and I'd be glad to distribute them. Thank you very much. Thank you

1:19:44Mr. Welsh. Melinda Salter. Three minutes Mr. Clerk. Hey everybody. Hi Mayor Gilbert. Hi

1:19:59town council members. I just want to use this time to introduce myself again. I'm Melinda Salter. I

1:20:05live in the Groves. In fact, I live on the south side of the Groves on the east side right in the

1:20:12middle. So there is something coming up the application that's come through that's 26

1:20:17CZ 13. These guys as you know the first time this came up you denied it then there was a switch

1:20:26and it was then approved which was fine. It was for 30 townhouses just like everybody else has

1:20:32on that street. It was formerly a donut. There's a small portion of it as I recall is commercial

1:20:38and the rest of it is residential. So they were planning on putting in 30 units for sale.

1:20:44They've sat on that for a while. The zoning passed and then they've come in with their

1:20:50neighborhood meeting and they filed their application on August 3rd I think. I think I've

1:20:58jumped the gun on some stuff and communicating for this. So this is part of the reason I want

1:21:02to reach out. So where they stand now in this application is that on that property behind my

1:21:10house which I don't have a buffer by the way. They want to put in four large apartment buildings

1:21:17for affordable housing which is fine. I've got no problem with that. I support it. I want more of

1:21:21that. So that's not part of the conversation but I do want I'm aware of that. But there are four

1:21:27big buildings on that spot. They're going to have 132 apartments, four walk-up buildings, no

1:21:34elevators. So we're talking about center street traffic, utilities. There's a whole lot of aspects

1:21:41that I will come back over time and try to build awareness around this case. Application I should

1:21:47say. So yeah, so I've helped catalyze some people. Quite a few people actually in the group grows. I

1:21:55don't represent all of their points about their reasons they don't like it but I think that

1:22:01generally as a neighborhood and those around there were pretty like-minded. I like the environmental

1:22:07stuff a little bit more but I think we all know that it's going to boil down to traffic and the

1:22:11egress and ingress with Myrtle Grove Lane right across the street. We've got 122 units to

1:22:18get there. As you guys talked about last week there are no parking rules. These guys are talking

1:22:22about 132 apartments, one parking spot per unit. But there's no public transportation so if they

1:22:31have to park off-site somewhere they can't get there. So there's a lot of things going around

1:22:36this. I just wanted to introduce myself, say thank you to everybody who's helping me on this

1:22:42learning curve because it's just a crash course and I really appreciate that. So that's it. I'll

1:22:47reach out to you all independently so we can talk more about this project but thank you very much.

1:22:52Thank you for speaking. Thank you. Jennifer, good evening. Hello again. Mr. Mayor, council members

1:23:11and neighbors, thank you for the opportunity to speak here again about ALPRs and warrantless

1:23:16surveillance. We've spoken at length about how troubling floc is but swapping floc for axon

1:23:23isn't a fix. No ALPR is the fix. At its inception, axon built an ethics board of 12 outside AI

1:23:33experts. In 2022, when axon pushed taser-arm drones in schools despite the ethics board's

1:23:40vote against them, nine of 12 experts resigned. The people axon hired to police its own ethics

1:23:49quit over their prospective tactics. Right now, agenda item CN4 asks this council to extend

1:23:57axon's contract to 2030 including drone software. The software axon ethics board resigned over.

1:24:04You'd be signing a surveillance contract with a vendor whose own advisors walked out.

1:24:10Axon built an AI that writes police reports from body cam audio then deletes its own draft so no

1:24:17one can tell the officer's words from AIs. Investigators have called it designed to defeat

1:24:24an audit. One Washington state's prosecutor's office refuses to accept a single report that

1:24:31it's touched but that's who you'd put in charge of surveilling us. Remember the ring lost dog

1:24:38Super Bowl commercial? After public backlash, ring canceled its contract with floc but kept

1:24:45one with axon. So a neighbor's doorbell is another camera in a network and people have no idea their

1:24:51private footage feeds warrantless surveillance. Axon sells the whole mass surveillance package.

1:24:59Their platform pulls ALPRs, body cams, drone cams, fixed cameras, interview rooms, ring doorbells,

1:25:07and AI analytics into one screen. One company, one database watching from everywhere. So one breach,

1:25:16one abused login, one bad actor, and it's everything on everyone exposed in one place.

1:25:25Every foreign adversary is hoping where there's this careless. The gravest danger in data is

1:25:32aggregation. When ALPR, body cam, drone, and doorbell footage all flow into one AI system,

1:25:39you've crossed the line into a full surveillance state, not the foundation of one. The ACLU put

1:25:47out a newsletter warning cities axon is not safe and the Supreme Court ruled in Carpenter versus

1:25:53the United States that tracking your movements over time requires a warrant. Axon is not less

1:25:59surveillance. It's more, it's consolidated, and it's with a company whose entire business model

1:26:04is becoming the for-profit operating system of warrantless surveillance. Swapping vendors just

1:26:10changes the logo on the camera and who you're making richer. Thanks for speaking. Thank you.

1:26:16Don Casalino. Don Casalino. Bless you. Kenneth Mazzillo. Hi, good evening. My name is Kenneth

1:26:33Mazzillo. I live at 602, Longton Hall Court in Apex, and I am the vice president of the

1:26:39Amherst Homeowners Association, and I'm speaking behind Bob. The point of the matter that we are

1:26:49really looking at here is that we have a real safety concern. Now, you all have plenty of

1:26:56decisions you've got to make, and you've got upsides and downsides of each decision. We need

1:27:02to get a traffic signal at that corner, and the reason is my wife was taking a run today,

1:27:09and she almost got hit. I hear it time and again from many of our residents just trying to pull

1:27:16out to go to work or take your kids to school or go to town. It's extremely dangerous, and this

1:27:22is with the lower flow of traffic that we now have. This is really, this is kind of a no-brainer.

1:27:30You guys can make a decision, and we're going to continue to lobby you and bring this to the

1:27:36forefront, but you can make a decision that has no downside and will just help protect a whole

1:27:44bunch of people from serious harm. In my day job, for the past 40 years, I've provided customized

1:27:54wheelchairs for people, and I have put way too many people in chairs from vehicular accidents,

1:28:02and especially when it's a car against a human, the results are horrific, and I don't want to

1:28:09see that. I don't want any more customers. I'm busy enough, and I believe that we have a real

1:28:17solution here, and it's simple. A traffic signal will slow the people down. It will create safe

1:28:26passageways for the people across the streets, and there really is no downside. When I have a

1:28:34problem that I bring to my boss, I usually like to bring a solution, and really, I've lived there

1:28:39for 20 years, and I cannot remember a time that I've seen a police officer out on the street

1:28:45giving tickets. Now, I'll tell you, you put some cops out there at between five and seven at night

1:28:50and eight and ten in the morning. You're going to garner a whole lot of money in traffic fines,

1:28:57because people speed down that road. There's a lot of lack of attention. There are pedestrians.

1:29:03There are people turning onto and off of the roads. This is a real serious situation right now,

1:29:10which will only increase, and I know that nobody wants to go home at night and say,

1:29:15"You know what? I could have saved that little kid if I had voted to put a traffic signal there."

1:29:22You have a real opportunity to do something really good here, and we will continue to

1:29:29lobby you, and we will continue to push, because this is that important. Thank you.

1:29:36Thank you all for letting me, and thank you for all you do.

1:29:39Thank you. Good evening, everybody. Hisham Osman, 3181 Mantle Ridge Drive and Apex,

1:29:54and today, I just want to come up and acknowledge the great job that Peak Academy has been doing.

1:30:00We have one more class until we graduate in a couple weeks, and I just want to talk about

1:30:05the great job that the entire town staff has done, you know, starting with Kendall and Sandy

1:30:09and organizing everything, and then meeting with every department. Yesterday, we were at

1:30:13Parks and Rec in Pleasant Park, and it was packed. It was a great time, and we've gone

1:30:17through every department, and I just want to thank the council for the dedication to this project.

1:30:22I want to thank Randy and the entire town staff, because it's a lot of time. It's long hours,

1:30:27and this year, we have two cohorts, so it's not just twice a month. It's four times. You can tell

1:30:33the amount of dedication that the town staff puts in, and I know I'll get up here and complain

1:30:37about things, and so today, I wanted to get up here and shout out the great job that Peak

1:30:41Academy does, and everybody's associated with it, so it's any of the residents who haven't

1:30:45taken it, you should. I know Karen has been there, and she's a tough one to break sometimes,

1:30:50but I think, I think, Randy, you may have won or over. I'm not sure. You may have. Some smiles

1:30:58every now and then, but a little bit, a little bit, but joking aside, it's a great program.

1:31:05I've learned so much about this town, but the best thing that I've learned is the dedication

1:31:10the staff have brought to the town. They really, really love working for the town of Apex.

1:31:16They're really open to resident feedback, and so I just wanted to, again, thank the entire

1:31:20leadership for keeping this program and investing in it, and then I recommend it to everybody, so

1:31:26my family makes fun of me. They call it night school, that I got to go to school,

1:31:30and they wait for me to come home and tell all about it, so it's been a great experience,

1:31:34so thank you very much. Thank you, thank you, thank you. All right, John Layer. Good evening,

1:31:45good evening, Mayor, Councilman. Sorry, I have a speech error problem, so I'm sorry.

1:31:54I did modify my speech a little bit, but my name is John Layer. I live over at 2024,

1:32:01Eva Pearl Drive in Apex. I had a stroke recently, and I'm here to talk about the children that are

1:32:14over at North Park. My son plays football over there, and your guys are planning on taking away

1:32:26the 13 acres away from there for their practicing. Sorry, but I want to ask you to take away what,

1:32:43why do we need to take away the kids' field when already, when they have plenty of empty

1:32:50apartments around here, like over by C.J. Maxx, the Henley, they've had their brand new,

1:33:03the bright type on it is 2540 a month, right? You got the ballast, which is right there on US 1,

1:33:11right? They're up to $2650 a month, and they're given two free months,

1:33:22because they can't get any in there. Same thing goes for Depot 499, which is right there at Apex

1:33:28Barbecue, same thing. They're at 2,000 a month for two bedrooms, but they're also offering

1:33:38two free months. They can't get anybody to get there. And then you got the new one that's coming

1:33:43up over by Crossroad Ford, the one for 400 plus apartments and condos. Why do we need more of

1:33:54these places? It just seems like we just keep building and building, and we're taking all our

1:34:00spaces while it's smaller. I know I'm deviating my area here, but I've never really done public

1:34:10talking. But it just seems like we cannot afford to get these places. A lot of the people that,

1:34:19you know, it's great if you live in a triangle, and you work in a triangle, that'd be great.

1:34:24You're making that, but what about the people that live here in Apex? You know, the people that

1:34:30are restaurant people and that take care of our people here, that we work in our grocery stairs.

1:34:37They can't live $2,000 a month, and that's not ruining food, water, electric. How can we

1:34:48afford it? And then you guys want to add more and take away the fields for our kids. I just

1:34:55don't understand how we just lose that. And I'm sorry, I just kind of went off on a little bit.

1:35:03But I hope you guys didn't get a list of what I did send. Thank you, though.

1:35:07Yes, thank you, Mr. Laird. All right, Mr. Laird was our last speaker. We'll go ahead and close

1:35:15public forum. Thank you to all who came out tonight to speak. All right, we're gonna roll

1:35:21on. Everybody good? Okay, all right. Let's move now with the public hearings. We have one public

1:35:27hearing tonight. Annexation number 831-2412, out of Chapel Road. Miss Diane Ken, planning director.

1:35:33All right, good evening. So this annexation is out on all Chapel Road, kind of in our western

1:35:43portion of our area. It is a single-family home. They are requesting annexation to gain access

1:35:50to town water and sewer and services. So staff recommends approval. Happy to answer any questions.

1:35:58Questions for Miss Ken. Hearing none, I'll go ahead and open up public

1:36:04hearing for comment. No one's signed up to speak. Public hearing is closed. Is there a motion?

1:36:09Motion to approve. Second. Motion's taken and second. Mayor Pro Tem, discussion. All in favor,

1:36:15say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you.

1:36:23Okay, we move now to two closed session items. Is there a motion to go to closed session?

1:36:29Motion. All right, Mayor Pro Tem. Second. Second gray. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion

1:36:35carries. We're moving into closed session. Thank you all. Thank you for being here.

3:55:50All in favor, say aye. Opposed? Aye. Opposed? Aye. Motion is motion to adjourn. Second.