2026-10-05 - Finance Committee

01:56Yes.

02:12after this

02:14>> one and then it's a

02:18council meeting council meeting.

02:20>> We do have it looks like we do have

02:22audio now.

02:24Small miracles.

02:26You can hear that right Jeff?

02:35Jeff, are you able to hear audio through

02:37your phone?

02:49>> I'll keep working on that video, but

02:50we'll get started with audio.

02:54Sorry about that.

02:57Sure.

02:58Good evening and welcome to the

03:00regularly scheduled finance committee

03:01meeting. It is Monday, October 5th, 2026

03:05at 5:15 p.m. We apologize we do not have

03:08video, but we are told we have audio.

03:11>> I am councelor Dean. I'm chair finance.

03:15Around the table on the committee are

03:17Carson, councelor Flo, Councelor Beck,

03:20and councelor Morer. We're also joined

03:22by councelor Walker, councelor Fish, and

03:28city manager Lear.

03:34We have bids and purchases on the

03:36agenda. First up is a compact tractor

03:39from public works

03:43approval.

03:45>> Yes. So, this is an item where seven uh

03:50bids were received for the item not

03:53going with the lowest bid because the

03:55lowest bid did not have bid

03:57specifications that matched what we had

04:00asked for. Um, this was budgeted in the

04:02fiscal 27 budget and staff is looking

04:06for committee approval.

04:10>> Have any questions regarding the compact

04:12tractor?

04:17I move staff approval.

04:21>> Okay, we have a second.

04:24Any concerns?

04:27We will go with staff approval for the

04:29United AMG turf for 39,1.

04:37Next up, we have a log loader trailer.

04:44Yes. So, this is another one where we're

04:46just looking for committee approval for

04:48bids were received ranging from 48 to

04:5272,000. And in this instance, staff is

04:55asking uh for approval to go with the

04:59low bidder for this item. Again,

05:01budgeted in 27.

05:08>> I'm curious. It says public works would

05:11use the savings from another bid. What

05:13which bid are they using the savings

05:15from

05:19is going to come up?

05:25>> Oh,

05:27all of that stress and it just

05:31>> the savings is from the bid for the flex

05:35wound rotary cutter.

05:39We had 30,000 on the flex road to be

05:41covered and it went on to 16,868

05:48for it 8. Yeah, 868.99.

05:51So remain was 13,131.

05:58>> I think in in the future it'd be nice to

06:00note it so we would know where it's

06:02coming from.

06:03>> Okay.

06:07make a note that we would like to have a

06:08little additional information on those

06:09in the future would be wonderful.

06:12>> Thank you.

06:14>> Sure.

06:16Another question about the uh you know

06:18both of these item we just approved are

06:20both for budget for $40,000.

06:23These were two separate items even

06:25though they came out of the same account

06:26number.

06:27>> Yes. Okay.

06:32>> Any other questions? Entertain a motion.

06:36>> Staff recommendation.

06:38>> Second. Have

06:39>> a motion. We have a second to go with

06:41the committee approval on the log motor

06:44loader trailer parks United Turf for

06:4748,650.

06:52[clears throat]

06:53>> Next up, docks 11 and 13. Roof

06:55renovations at the airport. Yes, more

06:59roof work at the airport for this

07:01finance committee. um for this um item

07:07that received three bids and are looking

07:10to go with a low bid to roof systems of

07:13Maine was a low bidder. They also won

07:15the bid on several other roof projects

07:18at the airport that you've recently

07:20approved and we do have positive

07:22experience with their work.

07:26>> [clears throat]

07:27>> This one will have to go to full counsel

07:29because of the amount.

07:31>> It's nice to see the local company being

07:33a little bit better.

07:38>> I would move staff recommendation to

07:41full council. Do

07:42>> you have a question?

07:42>> Well, I I just kind of have a question.

07:44I find it interesting that the bid came

07:46in at the exact amount that was budgeted

07:50and I'm curious why why that is. like do

07:52they do they know what our budget is

07:54when they bid and would would they have

07:57>> no Jose Jose can come up you'll see it

07:59there's two account numbers here um I'll

08:03let Jose explain

08:05[clears throat]

08:09>> good evening airport director so when

08:13the two accounts that are uh listed for

08:15it is because the amount that we

08:17budgeted was not sufficient and so we

08:19supplemented uh the amount with savings

08:21from previous uh roofing uh project that

08:24we had.

08:28So that's uh that's when the budget

08:29amount it's even to the amount that this

08:32bid has been awarded for.

08:35>> Can I just ask a follow question? So So

08:38once you saw the bids, is that where you

08:40pulled you pulled that amount in and

08:42added that?

08:42>> Yes.

08:43>> Okay. All right. Thank you.

08:48>> You have questions?

08:51compliment.

08:54>> So, what I guess I understand what

08:57you're doing, but I don't it doesn't

08:59reflect it well here because it says

09:01that the budgeted amount the original

09:04budgeted amount was the exact it really

09:06wasn't. So, it the bud the original

09:09budgeted amount was less and you're

09:11taking it from somewhere else. I think

09:12it's important that that's explained and

09:14it doesn't reflect that here. And so the

09:17form in and of itself that is used for

09:19it doesn't have that type of uh

09:21arrangement. We're certainly happy to

09:23work with the finance department uh the

09:26interim finance uh director um to make

09:29arrangements to the form to u

09:32accommodate for that variance because

09:33that's I I see your point and it just

09:36needs to be adjusted and

09:37>> it's not it's not that we're not going

09:39to approve it or anything. It's just

09:40that it makes it easier less questions.

09:42>> Yep.

09:44So if we have a budgeted amount and then

09:47maybe an amended budgeted amount would

09:49be helpful.

09:53Councelor back

09:54>> I know in other other projects where

09:56that's kind of happened in other

09:57departments where it'll have the budget

09:58amount the award will be more than the

10:00budgeted amount but then it'll explain

10:02in the actual memo you know say

10:04>> where they took it from

10:05>> where they took it from.

10:11Everyone is in agreement that a little

10:13additional info is always helpful when

10:14we make our decisions. [clears throat]

10:17Any other concerns?

10:20We have a motion on the table. Is there

10:22a second? We have a motion. We have a

10:24second.

10:26Any doubt?

10:29Seeing no doubt, this be moved on to

10:36moving right along. We have a boiler

10:38replacement at Cross Insurance Center.

10:42>> So, we received two bids for this work

10:45with a high of 101,000 and a low of

10:4876,000. Staff is recommending that we go

10:51with a low bid. We have experience with

10:54the vendor at the cross center

10:57and this was a budgeted item.

11:03Any questions on this item?

11:12Seeing none, would I entertain a motion?

11:16>> Recommendation.

11:17>> Second.

11:19>> We have a motion. We have a second. We

11:22have a committee at fo on this one.

11:24>> Yes. Just can we give you it?

11:29>> Can I ask a procedural question on this

11:31one? I I'm curious. Uh

11:35granted we got it for less than the

11:37budgeted amount. Now the difference goes

11:39where?

11:41>> So it will live in the department's

11:45capital account.

11:46>> Okay.

11:47>> And they theoretically if they have

11:49expenditures they could bring them to

11:52you for approval.

11:53>> Okay. But only capital expenditures. I

11:55mean if they decide to go out and buy

11:57several smaller items that we don't have

11:59perview over they could buy it out of

12:01this. I'm looking for control.

12:04>> Councelor Mor, that's so unlike you.

12:07[laughter]

12:07Um, I would have to double check about

12:09the cross-pollination. I don't want to

12:11give you an incorrect answer between

12:12capital and um, operating expenses,

12:16whether they could pull those over. I

12:18know it's addressed in the ordinance,

12:20but I'm not off the top of my head

12:21confident in the answer, but I can get

12:23you.

12:23>> Yeah, I think I think it would be

12:25important to know because this is a

12:26sizable amount of money.

12:29Any

12:34other questions?

12:38>> Discuss the Kuskang stream wall repair

12:41design and build. Yes, this one will

12:44also require full council approval and I

12:46think it probably is going to be of a

12:48bit more explanation given the amount of

12:51subject.

13:00Hello Davis, director of engineering.

13:03Um, I have two recommendations for you

13:06tonight. First is the condescreen wall

13:09repair

13:12contract. Um, this is we brought a

13:15report to you back in April about the

13:17animal wall that's failing. Um, and

13:20actually it's as the weeks go by it, you

13:23know, watches are shifted. So, this is a

13:26design build award um for glory

13:29contracting for $3,871,720

13:34uh which is in with our budget amount of

13:36$4 million

13:38from the downtown Tiff. Um we solicited

13:42bids. We had an RFP for design bill. We

13:46had three biders.

13:48Um we scored the bids and then

13:51interviewed all three folks, all three

13:53contractors and uh we feel Gordon did

13:56the best option for us um to get this

13:59done in in our in the regional time plus

14:02also um over right now where this is

14:06only for you know 123 that wall and the

14:09plan is to use that module block that

14:12continue that so that what we have in

14:14front of

14:16for

14:19and this would need a recommendation.

14:24>> I have to say I was impressed with right

14:31looked into aspects of what needs to be

14:34done and

14:35>> they don't know how to do they

14:38out for others to

14:39>> Yes. So they're in the permanent process

14:40with us as well uh being in the stream.

14:43So, we do need

14:45>> army core permits and all that.

14:47>> I'm a little worried because I think my

14:49garden is going to be affected by this

14:50one.

14:51>> Yes, they will be. [laughter]

14:53>> We'll put it back.

14:54>> Okay.

14:55>> Yeah, that that whole

14:58>> mall area will be shut off of course

14:59during this. But

15:02>> we have any serious question?

15:09>> Seeing none, I entertain a motion. Staff

15:12recommendation second

15:14>> motion and a second.

15:16>> Any challenges?

15:19>> Seeing none, we will move to full

15:22council.

15:23>> Thank you.

15:25>> Ready for the next?

15:26>> Yes.

15:26>> And stream sewer flow separation.

15:29>> So this is in the mall area. Um we have

15:32what we call the Kmart pump station.

15:34It's behind Wendy's services road. We

15:39have AR money that was uh those

15:42available for this $1.8 million to to

15:45get capacity in that area the post the

15:49post station in itself with less leg. So

15:53our goal is to instead of uh investing

15:56in a new pump station just to go gravity

15:58in that area. So that gets that takes

16:02away that pump station completely which

16:05is uh better for for us as a system. the

16:08less pump stations we have the better

16:09the for maintenance

16:11and all of that. So this actually we I

16:14came to you guys I think twice already.

16:17Um we have capacity issues that we were

16:20working on were born underneath that was

16:23the first part of money out of this ARPA

16:25funding. Um and then we had um Sergeant

16:28was awarded the contract to support that

16:31barren and then now this is um

16:35it's up by the old van building

16:37Hannifford area. We're actually going to

16:39get capacity um away from that pump

16:42station right now and um upside the

16:45lines. So we have a few projects that

16:47have been laid in for a year or so. uh

16:50and this will get capacity for those

16:52projects to move forward and it um it

16:55spends the rest of the ARPA money that

16:57we have a deadline for at the end of

16:58this year. So we are um we are

17:02recommending CNC Lynch who we've had um

17:05you know good experience with and award

17:08amount is $44,341.50.

17:14>> Any questions?

17:19>> Thank you. Um, so this will get that

17:21ARPA money spent before the end of the

17:23year, then it will get a check out the

17:25door in time. Yes,

17:30>> I'm sure there's a reason, but when I

17:32see other construction going on at the

17:34same site where we're doing

17:36construction, I think this case if the

17:39state's got the um doing work over by

17:42the bridge and not right next door, but

17:44very close and uh just wondering how we

17:49could stretch these offer monies even

17:51though they do need to be spent quickly.

17:53I wondered if there had been any um you

17:56know observation as to any partnership

17:58or what was going on out there that

18:00where they could work collaboratively

18:02with us with our project to kind of

18:04stretch our dollars or our labor or our

18:06time or something project.

18:09>> Yes.

18:10>> Well, I mean the state's not going to do

18:12sewer.

18:13>> I know it was two different things. I

18:14just didn't know if there was any

18:16creative way of looking at the work that

18:17was being done and if there was any, you

18:19know, like extravation. Um the first the

18:21first phase of this certainly we did we

18:24used their forward contractor

18:26>> sergeant is their start contractor so we

18:28saved a lot of that um this you know

18:33for this phase it's it's away from that

18:35area I don't know what we could have

18:37done it could have sergeant but they

18:39they've been on it they weren't a little

18:40bit um their schedule same so we

18:44wouldn't [clears throat] see lunch on

18:46>> I just wanted to make sure Thank you.

18:48Yeah, we certainly do look at that

18:49stuff.

18:50>> Appreciate that. Thank you.

18:55>> Any other questions?

19:01We are looking for a motion.

19:03>> I move staff recommendation.

19:05>> Second.

19:05>> A motion. We have a second.

19:08Any concerns? Any objections? Seeing

19:12none, we'll move this to the full

19:14council.

19:14>> Thank you very much.

19:15>> You're welcome.

19:17Now that it's approved, I'll know that

19:20Jeff and his deputy Eric have worked

19:23tremendously hard over the last two to

19:25three months to make sure that

19:26[clears throat] we spent every last cent

19:29of that 1.8 million in our funds. It has

19:31not been easy to spend that 1.8 million.

19:35They've done a tremendous job.

19:42>> That is excellent news. We certainly

19:44don't want

19:48And last on the agenda for bids and

19:50purchasing, we have a telematic

19:53equipment public works.

19:57>> Yes. Um I'll call proactively call ours

20:01director David Ton up. Um so this is an

20:05item that was approved specifically in

20:08the budget, the purchase of the Samsara

20:12um Helatics system. and we're now

20:16looking for

20:18approval on the actual receipt of those

20:21items.

20:22>> Correct.

20:25>> Good evening.

20:25>> Good evening, Dave Law Director of

20:27Public Works. Uh

20:31>> yeah, they have good

20:33>> uh so

20:35we're in full motion with it. It's

20:38installed in our vehicles. It is going

20:40to be a very useful tool at this point.

20:42and our accident rate has gone down to

20:44about zero at this point. Hoping it's

20:47going to stay that way through winter

20:49activities. Uh our mentoring has gone up

20:52exponentially. If somebody is failing to

20:54follow a policy and get notification and

20:57they get assigned a coach and they get

20:59coached right away. So a lot of good

21:01things going on with it. It's over to

21:03return on investment. It's going to be a

21:04bit probably before we get through this

21:06winter activity to see what's really

21:09going to save us uh on those different

21:11activities or different

21:14uh preventing accidents and policy

21:16violations.

21:18[snorts]

21:22>> Any questions?

21:29>> I move staff recommendation.

21:31>> Second.

21:32>> Have a motion. We have a second.

21:36>> Yeah. Council.

21:38>> Any objections? Seeing no objections,

21:41this all move.

21:42>> Thank you very much.

21:43>> Thank you.

21:46>> Last on the agenda, we have a workout

21:48agreement. 71 Park Street.

21:51>> Yes. So, this is a renewal of an

21:54existing

21:56uh workout agreement. So, um the

21:59one-year agreement that just ended um

22:02called for $600 quarterly payments. Um

22:06and the terms of the agreement have been

22:10met for the past year and the property

22:13owners are looking um for another year

22:17with those same terms.

22:24>> Interest rate is what for that?

22:26>> Oh gosh.

22:28I'm not sure what the current interest

22:29rate is. Um Janelle couldn't be here

22:31tonight. She actually is unwell. So if

22:34we need to um dig into this one, we can

22:37always defer it to the next finance

22:39meeting as well.

22:40>> Janelle being our treasurer.

22:42>> I'm also curious about what's the

22:45expected payoff die? How many years have

22:47we got left?

22:48>> It would depend on the changing interest

22:51rate each year.

22:52>> Must be a guesstimate.

22:55>> Current rate.

22:57Yeah.

23:01>> And actually,

23:03like I said, we can wait on this one if

23:05you'd like those questions before

23:06answered before you consider um whether

23:10to do another year under the same terms.

23:13One thing I wanted to bring up in the

23:15context of this conversation is whether

23:19council wants to continue

23:21to hear these um one-year renewal

23:27or workout agreements every single year

23:30or if when you approve them the first

23:32time. if you would like to authorize

23:35staff so long as the terms of the

23:38agreement have been um complied with in

23:41the prior year to um renew on a yearly

23:46basis so long as the terms are complied

23:48with on the same terms

23:52>> my opinion would be I don't want to see

23:55any more work out agreements because

23:57don't we have an obligation to the

23:59taxpayers to redeem the property after

24:02three is I think we should follow the

24:04rules. So you do you will have a

24:07>> the ones that are there now I can handle

24:09but no means

24:10>> um you will have revisions to the policy

24:14um you had discussed those with

24:17assistant solicitor Inennis and our

24:19treasurer

24:21um probably a couple months ago and

24:24they've been working on revisions to

24:26sort of tighten up um the procedures

24:29that they use to determine when to bring

24:32a workout agreement for you versus bring

24:34a request to take property. Um, I will

24:37say that the policy that they are

24:39putting together does not make it

24:42mandatory

24:43to take a property at the three-year

24:46mark. It has more nuance in it. Um, and

24:52allows for sort of a consideration of

24:53what's in the city's best interest.

24:57But I think we have to be aware of the

24:59taxpayers's best interest also

25:02because the people that aren't paying

25:04the taxes are getting the benefit but

25:08tax not

25:11>> as we're weighing this policy out. It

25:13would be helpful to hear uh the benefits

25:16of the workout agreements and the

25:18staff's opinion. I mean if if they're

25:20seeing success in getting the money they

25:22otherwise wouldn't have.

25:23>> Yeah.

25:25>> That' be helpful to to hear. But I I

25:27understand what the previous speaker

25:28saying that, you know, other taxpayers

25:31see that, you know, we're cutting

25:32breaks. Um you know, whereas, you know,

25:35they're working hard to to get it paid.

25:37Um and it begs a question of, you know,

25:39why aren't they coming in for the

25:40abatement process and those other

25:42programs are out there. Uh so definitely

25:44worthy of a discussion.

25:45>> Yeah,

25:48>> we do have to look at this one at 600

25:50quarterly. That's 2,400 a year. This is

25:53a a decent workout agreement compared to

25:55some.

25:56>> Mhm.

25:56>> But we've also seen where taxes have

25:58gone, you know, 17 years without being

26:00paid. You certainly don't ever want to

26:02get into that situation again.

26:03>> Yeah.

26:04>> So, it definitely, you know, move us to

26:07see those revisions.

26:10Do I hear openness to the idea of

26:15permitting staff to renew

26:18once an agreement is approved by council

26:22in subsequent years without bringing

26:24them back to you or do you still want to

26:26see them year after year?

26:30>> Sure. I guess the question I would have

26:32is what's involved in the process of

26:33renewal like do they go back and review

26:35updated income or anything like that to

26:37make sure you know you know they

26:38secretly hit the lotto you know and

26:40unbeknownst to us you know I think they

26:42should be able to pay it off that kind

26:44of thing that's silly but I mean but in

26:46all seriousness you know if their income

26:48situation has changed significantly you

26:51know change in the process I'm just

26:53curious yeah

26:54>> you know how that review is done what's

26:55involved

26:58>> I was gonna say I would be open to it

27:00But, you know, as long as that person is

27:02making progress and they're and I think

27:05we we wouldn't even allow another

27:07agreement if they didn't complete the

27:10previous one anyway, right? So, yeah.

27:13>> As long as they continue make progress.

27:17>> Okay. I'm just

27:22>> council me.

27:23>> What happens if

27:25or sorry, I need to think about this

27:28question a little bit.

27:29you know, if somebody does this, but

27:31then they, you know, something happens

27:34at some point and then we do end up

27:36taking the property. Like, do we have

27:38any information on the average amount of

27:40time that the city holds on to that

27:44property and if we ultimately end up if

27:47it costs us more to take the property or

27:51to continue with these kinds of

27:53agreements? like I don't know if there

27:56are any statistics on that but it would

27:58be because I mean if we take the

27:59property we're not getting any tax

28:01revenue until we can sell it and if it's

28:04not in sellable condition then that's

28:06going to be a while. So I'm just curious

28:09if there are any stats on like which way

28:12the city ends up being better off

28:15financially.

28:16>> Yeah. I mean there would be stats

28:17because we charge our costs against the

28:19ultimate purchase price. So we would

28:21know whether we've lost money or not.

28:24Mhm.

28:24>> Yeah, that would be good to know. So we

28:26kind of know like sort of in general if

28:30these [snorts] end up being more

28:31beneficial than just ultimately taking

28:33the property overall and that might help

28:35kind of guide, you know, how many

28:36handles going forward. So thank you.

28:40>> Well, I'm just curious. This is in an

28:43estate. Has the estate been settled?

28:45Because if it has, we're kind of out the

28:47gold. It would have got reverted to.

28:53So, you know, where do we stand if it's

28:55in an estate?

28:57>> Yeah.

28:59>> You know, if the estate has money in it,

29:01it would be logical that they'd be

29:02paying I think part of the the will says

29:05they pay the taxes and things due. And,

29:07>> you know, do we know that there was or

29:10wasn't?

29:10>> I think it would be fair to assume that

29:12there's no money in the estate, but they

29:14didn't want to lose the property that

29:16their loved one owned, and so they're

29:19trying to redeem it in order to keep it.

29:22Council

29:28me has a point there that it's not

29:30somebody living in the home.

29:32>> That's right. Right. Well, actually, I

29:34don't know that we know that.

29:36>> I think this one we did, didn't we?

29:44>> I can't remember.

29:46>> The memo doesn't.

29:50Yeah.

29:52>> And as I said, Janelle was going to be

29:54here, but she's sick today. So, she'll

29:57have, I'm sure, have all those answers

29:59at the next finance committee meeting.

30:02>> Carson,

30:02>> thank you to answer um manager Lear's

30:05question about whether or not we'd still

30:08want to see the workout agreements. I

30:09think for me, the more impactful thing

30:12is a review of that policy and changes.

30:15So I think the thing that I had noticed

30:16or focused on in a previous conversation

30:19was that there was a staff guidance

30:21section and I for me thought that the

30:23approach was backwards to what would be

30:25more effective.

30:27>> Um and so I think if for me when I'm in

30:30a place where I'm comfortable with the

30:32policy and how it would be effectuated

30:34then I would not have an issue having

30:36staff

30:37>> continue to work on those. Okay.

30:43Oh, one more comment and this but this

30:46is to I think councelor Meror an earlier

30:48question that you had which was related

30:50to capital expenditures in the budget. I

30:53think according to like state charter

30:55our charter and state law capital

30:57expenditures are in full force for up to

31:00three years until they're either

31:02extended or abandoned and they can be

31:05abandoned officially by somebody coming

31:07back to us or just by nature of

31:10something persisting for 3 years without

31:12having been expended. There's nothing in

31:14that paragraph that tells me that they

31:17would be eligible to take that

31:20appropriation and spend it

31:22[clears throat] on something else

31:23because that appropriation was specific

31:27is my that's my initial answer to that

31:30based on what I was reading.

31:34>> Don't ask me like I'm an expert now. I'm

31:36just telling you what I was just

31:37reading.

31:38>> Okay, I won't.

31:45As far as this workout agreement, be

31:48comfortable moving forward or do we need

31:50more information?

31:55>> I'll put

31:56>> I'd like to see more information.

31:59>> Back.

31:59>> I'd make a motion to table this until

32:01the next finance meeting.

32:03>> Second motion and a second. We will

32:06table this until we have a little bit

32:08more information on the process and that

32:11will be at our next finance committee

32:13meeting.

32:15Do we have any more updates regarding

32:18finance?

32:19>> None today. Not today.

32:22>> Just was a good time to ask how they

32:24are. [laughter]

32:26>> You can um

32:30not great if I'm being honest. Um, I

32:34think our interim finance director has

32:36put in a ton of ton of effort to

32:39[clears throat] really dig into where

32:40the finance department is currently and

32:44I personally feel more confident than I

32:47felt in the year I've been here

32:48understanding

32:50where we are. Um,

32:53but I think she has identified very

32:56fairly so that she really needs

32:59additional resources to catch up. And so

33:02we are evaluating what that looks like,

33:05whether it's hiring an contractor to

33:08provide professional services or to hire

33:11temps. I think one of the things that

33:14she's observed is that higher level

33:18staff in the finance department have

33:21been spending a lot of time doing work

33:25that should be done by more entry-level

33:27staff. And so I think that we're leaning

33:30towards procuring more entry-level temps

33:33to do data entry and processing so that

33:36she and other higher level staff can

33:38focus on responding to the audit.

33:42>> And a follow-up question, how does the

33:45lack of an audit affect our bonding?

33:48>> So we really can't go out to bond in a

33:53competitive way until this most recent

33:55audit is completed. So what would with

33:58the new help or you know what would anti

34:02be the anticipated finalization of the

34:04budget? I know that's a wild question

34:06but I mean are we looking at six months

34:08a year? I mean how long

34:10>> for the currently outstanding? Not not a

34:13year. Um

34:15>> don't promise anything.

34:17>> Yeah, [laughter] right. Um I think I

34:20think December is hopeful and January is

34:24reasonable.

34:27which is not a great place to be. I

34:29don't want to say say that as though

34:30that's a win. I mean, that's a not a

34:32great place to be.

34:33>> And how does this affect next year's or

34:36the year that hasn't started? The audit

34:37that hasn't started yet.

34:39>> I mean, we can't we can't start the

34:40following audit until this one's

34:42completed.

34:43>> Yeah.

34:44>> Okay. [clears throat]

34:46>> Yes.

34:46>> Uh just a follow up as well as uh RKO

34:50was giving council that updated

34:52spreadsheet showing how it was. I

34:54haven't seen a report from them in a

34:56while. I just wonder if someone could

34:57pass along a message to them of those

34:59were helpful and really like to see

35:00those I like to see those

35:02>> and I want to say the last one you got

35:03we were at like 39%.

35:06>> Um which I I think there's been

35:09progress. We should be above 50 but

35:11we're certainly not near completion.

35:14I I'll follow up on [clears throat]

35:16another update

35:19that would be helpful I think for

35:20everyone.

35:23Any other questions for city manager

35:25Leer?

35:28Seeing none, we will adjourn finance at

35:325:50 p.m.

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