2026-10-27 - Library Trustees Meeting

00:02Good evening. This I'm Lisa Powers, the

00:05uh chair of the library trustees. It's

00:07um

00:08October 27th.

00:10Um

00:12and we have uh all the trustees. Two are

00:16absent with notice, Deb LeBeau

00:19and Nora Ali.

00:22First item on the agenda is review and

00:25act to approve the minutes

00:27of the September 22nd meeting.

00:34>> [snorts]

00:34>> Priya, you always do such a beautiful

00:36job on the minutes.

00:38Thank you for that.

00:44>> Questions?

00:46Clarification, Ms. Adams?

00:48>> Which?

00:48>> Context.

00:51>> Move to approve the minutes of the

00:53September meeting.

00:56>> Second.

00:57>> All those in favor? I.

01:00All those opposed? And that passes

01:02unanimously.

01:06The next item on the agenda is review

01:08and act to approve the report of the

01:11director's act- activities of September

01:142026.

01:18And

01:19just about every day is busy for you,

01:22Priya.

01:23Um and I I did notice that I I was

01:26curious how the presentation at the

01:28Tri-State Learning Collaborative

01:31on aging webinar went, libraries as

01:34inclusive space- spaces. I know I know

01:37you did a big presentation.

01:39>> I I did. Yeah, it went off very well. Um

01:42as I mentioned last time, I focused on

01:45the Memory Cafe program at the library.

01:47Though we do have a lot of programs for

01:49adults, they wanted me to focus on uh

01:52the Memory Cafe. And um I talked about

01:56our 10-year journey, how we started it

02:00um 10 years ago with a grant from the

02:03MDLC, the LSDA grant,

02:06and then the different funding

02:08mechanisms

02:10we've used in the past 10 years to

02:13sustain the program and

02:16all the all the activities that go on

02:20with that, how impactful it is in our

02:23community, and

02:27I I think this it's one of the most

02:29important

02:31activities

02:32that we offer for a niche population,

02:36and I think I was able to

02:39bring that across,

02:41and I had pictures of

02:44you know, different performers at our

02:46Memory Cafe, the participants.

02:49Um

02:50As as best as you can

02:53capture those images of people dancing

02:57or enjoying the music or doing different

02:59activities and stuff.

03:01Um

03:02I think it was well received,

03:05and people had some follow-up questions,

03:07especially about funding and how we um

03:10what are the ways in which we partner

03:12with other

03:14um

03:15community organizations,

03:17and I told them about

03:19the Turkey Trot for the Memory in our

03:21community, and how the Senior Center has

03:26also offers the Memory Cafe to

03:28complement our offering, and um

03:33um

03:34you know, other other Memory Cafes in

03:37the state, um

03:39how you can find information about

03:41various resources, etc. So, it was a

03:45good one.

03:46>> That's fantastic. I love that.

03:52>> [cough and clears throat]

03:55>> Okay.

03:59Any other comments on previous

04:02activities for September?

04:05Comments or questions?

04:06>> a little curious about the leadership

04:08retreat with the town department heads.

04:11>> Um that was a very interesting um

04:14day. This is the first time we've had

04:17uh

04:18thing like this where we go you know

04:21offsite and have a retreat with uh all

04:25the department heads in town. There was

04:28a

04:29uh the facilitator

04:31was from Texas and he's a

04:34coach {slash} facilitator for um

04:38different

04:39organizations where he uh

04:43you know facilitates

04:45um

04:47uh retreats and different um conferences

04:50etc. for municipal leaders and leaders

04:54in the private sector.

04:55So

04:56um

04:57it it was interesting the first half of

05:00the day he um

05:03he talked about leadership. The the

05:05focus was on preventing burnout among

05:09leaders. And he said if the lead

05:12[snorts] if leaders aren't healthy and

05:14not taking care of their mental health,

05:17physical health, emotional health, and

05:19spiritual health, they cannot lead

05:22uh in any capacity. So we talked about

05:25that and uh

05:28uh burnout and stress and how we we

05:31could avoid that etc.

05:33And this in the afternoon um

05:37we focused on a personality test. He had

05:40uh he had given us a questionnaire to um

05:43answer or a survey kind of thing.

05:48It's called the Enneagram Enneagram

05:50test. Uh so

05:53uh based on that um there are nine basic

05:57personality types and so we were

06:00told what category we belonged to and um

06:05all the leaders who had the same number

06:07were asked to sit together, and we had,

06:11you know, small breakout sessions, and

06:14then a session where he

06:17kind of analyzed uh our communication

06:21styles based on the personality

06:24uh type that we got categorized under.

06:28And, what kind of communication

06:31you would like I you know, what how you

06:33would like to receive communication and

06:35how what kind of communication um how

06:38you would communicate with others, with

06:41others in your team, with your peers, or

06:43with others. So, it was fascinating. Uh

06:48uh I mean, initially, my reaction was

06:51you don't can't pigeonhole people into

06:54just nine nine different personality

06:57types, but

06:58uh

07:00>> [clears throat]

07:00>> I think it's

07:02uh you have to look at it as you're not

07:04necessarily just number six or number

07:07seven or whatever. You are you could

07:10have some of the traits of the other um

07:15categories, also. So, it was

07:17interesting, and it was nice to

07:20interact with the other town leaders.

07:23>> Thank you for sharing that.

07:24>> Sure.

07:25>> Okay.

07:26Very nice.

07:27Sounds like a good day.

07:29>> Yeah, it was.

07:33>> Okay.

07:34Does anybody want to make a motion to

07:36approve

07:37uh Priya's report of activities for

07:39September?

07:40>> I I can make I make a motion to approve

07:42the lever's Priya's report of activities

07:45for September.

07:46>> Second.

07:48>> All those in favor? I.

07:50All those opposed?

07:52And, that passes unanimously.

07:56The next item on the agenda is programs

07:58and services, the director's report of

08:00the programs and services offered in

08:03September.

08:05And,

08:06it's about 2 and 1/2 pages long.

08:09So many children's teens, virtual,

08:12in-person,

08:14and adult programs.

08:26>> The one that's turned out amazing music

08:28and the mind.

08:31>> Teens, again led by teens.

08:33They come up with so many

08:35great ideas. I haven't gotten the

08:38feedback from the children's staff

08:41on that,

08:43but I'm sure it was it was fun.

08:48>> There's quite a few teen-led programs.

08:49It's amazing.

08:54>> I like Bites and Bikes.

08:58>> Yeah.

08:58>> School's First Day of School was an

09:00excellent choice for the story walk.

09:02It's told from the school's point of

09:03view and the school is nervous.

09:05>> I'll start.

09:09>> You guys do a lot of stuff together.

09:12>> [snorts]

09:18>> I've heard the attendance of these

09:20children's programs is huge.

09:22>> Yes.

09:23>> Is it just the kids that some of them

09:25>> That's the yeah, the story times. The

09:28morning story times for babies,

09:31for toddlers, preschoolers, those are

09:34the biggest.

09:36I'm programs at the library,

09:38and people complain about the parking

09:40lot in the morning because

09:43there are 100 people in the

09:46program room.

09:49>> So the the stats for September are 112

09:52adult, teen, and children's programs

09:53with almost 2,400 people in attendance.

09:58So yeah, our team lot would get very

10:00full

10:01with all those people.

10:12Any other comments, questions?

10:16>> I love the fact that we got like a

10:18you know, almost almost one to one ratio

10:20of items borrowed versus items lent on

10:23interlibrary loan. We have

10:25six monthly book clubs.

10:29Yeah, six of them like six monthly book

10:31clubs.

10:32>> Yeah, that's just yeah.

10:33>> Yeah, it's great.

10:39>> So many opportunities at the library.

10:41>> Yeah.

10:43>> Are there private book clubs that people

10:45have that you

10:47>> We have five book clubs led by um

10:51library staff.

10:52And then there are book clubs um that

10:56like you know, people as we

10:59allow them to use the

11:00uh meeting room and we get the copies of

11:03the books for them.

11:05So there are

11:06those also.

11:08Some that are held here, some in

11:11different places like Southgate has

11:13their own book book group. But we uh

11:17provide the multiple copies of the books

11:19for them.

11:22>> Such a great service.

11:24>> Yeah.

11:25>> How only task does a book club need to

11:28request multiple copies of a book and

11:31how does a a book club go about

11:34registering for that type of

11:38service?

11:38>> Oh, we get they just have to reach out

11:40to our interlibrary loan librarian

11:44uh and if they give the title uh about a

11:47month in advance, that that's helpful.

11:51>> Do they get any kind of priority? I

11:53think about some books I've number 350

11:56and I've been for quite a while.

11:58>> Yeah, wait was that on there?

11:59>> Is there any

12:00kind of priority to book centers?

12:02>> I

12:03So for my uh book club, the Shrewsbury

12:05readers, I don't pick the

12:08absolute brand new New York Times best

12:10sellers because of that problem of not

12:13being able to get 20 copies of the book.

12:16So, I generally pick up book that is

12:19you know, that way there's a likelihood

12:22of getting those multiple copies. I

12:24think it's not even fair to deprive

12:27other libraries of those copies and

12:29other individual patrons by getting 20

12:33copies of the newest Ann Patchett book

12:35or something. So,

12:38I tend to do that and I think the

12:41adults also who pick um

12:43titles.

12:44>> That's so popular.

12:46>> cognizant of that.

12:48>> Yeah.

12:52>> Okay.

12:56The next item on our agenda is financial

13:00and legislative.

13:10>> To me, like everything was kind of in

13:12sync for this time of year.

13:14>> Yeah. Because he presented us

13:16the budget at the end of 4 months, yeah.

13:21>> We're definitely not overspending.

13:25And correct me if I'm if I'm mistaken,

13:27but when I looked at the state aid, at

13:30the approved budget, it looked like we'd

13:33be getting just about the same amount in

13:35state aid this year as in fiscal year

13:38'27 as we had received in fiscal year

13:41'26. Is that correct?

13:43>> Yes.

13:43>> Okay.

13:44>> And that's not reflected in here.

13:46>> Okay.

13:47>> Yes, that's true.

13:55>> Do we need to approve this?

13:58>> Yes.

13:59>> Okay. I am to approve.

14:01>> Do we approve?

14:02>> I second.

14:03>> All those in favor, I. All those

14:06opposed, and that passes.

14:09>> Okay.

14:12And then

14:13>> A type of questions of fiscal year '28

14:15action plan.

14:16>> Mhm.

14:17>> Um

14:18>> so

14:18>> We'll be doing that next.

14:19>> That's the next

14:21>> [laughter]

14:21>> Whoops, jumping back in gun.

14:24Sorry.

14:26Um

14:32Yes, reviewing both will approve that

14:34we're up to the fiscal year 2028 action

14:37plan. Yes.

14:44Yeah, just a few additions this year.

14:48As you know, it's based on the same

14:50uh strategic plan, so

14:54basically we focus on

14:57collections, programs, and services.

15:00Keeping the

15:01maintaining the facility,

15:04uh maintaining the website, focus on

15:07diverse collections,

15:09different ways to do outreach and

15:11community engagement.

15:13Um

15:15getting community feedback and

15:17implementing their suggestions. So, most

15:20of the uh items, goals are the same.

15:24Just a few that are in red font are the

15:30ones that we have added.

15:32You can see

15:34under literary hub,

15:37there's um

15:39>> Yeah, sorry. I forgot to bring that one.

15:42>> Yeah, no, that's okay. Um

15:44So, we've added a few points, uh bullet

15:47points under literary hub.

15:51Adult literacy support,

15:54uh

15:54our team librarian and adult services

15:57librarians

15:59uh

16:00want to do more programs with adult

16:03literacy, not just early literacy for

16:05children, but uh

16:08you know, adult literacy, focusing on

16:10that.

16:11Um the collection development policy, we

16:14review that every year.

16:16Uh Uh, now with AI

16:18uh

16:19books books being published which, you

16:22know, we have to be more vigilant about

16:26the influence of AI. So, we'll be adding

16:29that to our collection development

16:30policy.

16:33And there's one thing about programs for

16:35caregivers of children and teens.

16:38So,

16:39those are additions.

16:41And then

16:43uh

16:45something else about AI in the

16:50under Idea Hub.

16:54Let's take that.

16:59Monitor AI trends, I think it was

17:01called.

17:02>> This seems like a tall order to me, like

17:05yeah.

17:05>> [laughter]

17:06>> Very much so.

17:08>> So, we've kept it as vague as as broad

17:10as possible. Monitor.

17:13Because

17:14Yeah.

17:15>> Just a quick question. And I know I risk

17:19the sounding like someone who Vivek

17:21Ramaswamy would call woke.

17:24Um

17:24the

17:26We use the term

17:28adults and teens with disabilities. We

17:30talk about neurodivergent

17:33individuals.

17:34Um

17:36Consider if we had a a child in one of

17:38our own families who had a speech

17:40impediment.

17:41We would not tell that child that they

17:43were impeded. We'd say, "You have

17:45certain mannerisms that you need to work

17:47on."

17:48"You need to work with the speech

17:49therapist because your mannerisms are

17:51not appropriate, right?" So, why why do

17:56we use and why do we use terms like

18:00Can Can I I loved what you when you

18:03described the Memory Cafe as people in a

18:06certain niche? A niche population. Why

18:10are these not other niche populations?

18:13Why are they disabled and

18:15neurodivergent? I mean, deaf people are

18:17are really up in arms about this at the

18:20moment. Am I being too persnickety?

18:23>> Well, I'm just saying in terms of

18:25neurodivergent

18:26>> Yeah. That folks, that population has

18:29is no longer niche.

18:34So, I I think that's that might be part

18:35of it.

18:36>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

18:38>> Children and now adults on the autism

18:40spectrum since the early 1990s.

18:43It's Before they said it was kind of a

18:45well, this may be a like an uptick. It's

18:47like, no. It's kind of a tidal wave.

18:50Um there there are many many more and I

18:52I don't know if it's due to diagnostic

18:53criteria. There are a lot of different

18:55you know, theories as to why. But

18:57neurodivergent

18:59people are it's I would consider that a

19:02a niche group.

19:03>> Is it niche or

19:03>> Okay. But in ecology, a niche can be as

19:07broad as the distribution of oak trees

19:11or as narrow as a species that lives in

19:13one grove on one isolated island in the

19:16middle of the South Pacific.

19:18They're both ecological niches.

19:21So, why?

19:23I I don't mean to be contentious, but

19:26>> in the in the context of this particular

19:28document, it's it's talking about a

19:30population that requires additional

19:32either additional service or at least a

19:33survey to determine if they require

19:36either additional services or different

19:37type of service. Am I speaking out of

19:39turn on that?

19:40>> Um no, you're right. Um so, this is

19:43mostly an internal

19:46copy, right? The

19:48action plan is for our staff to be able

19:51to plan programs and services.

19:54So, if we do offer a program for one

19:57kind of niche population, we may not

20:00necessarily advertise it in any dis

20:04terms that might be offensive. So, this

20:07is for us to be aware that we have to

20:10consider different groups of people when

20:13we are planning programs.

20:15>> Makes sense.

20:16>> Right.

20:17>> The

20:18problem is going to be in the definition

20:19of the group.

20:21>> Yeah.

20:21>> As in there's such variation.

20:24>> Right.

20:25>> Human variation is

20:27>> Right, but I think what you're talking

20:28about is like a lot of times there are

20:31programs that are described as sensory

20:33friendly.

20:34So it's a positive connotation as

20:36opposed to disability. Like different

20:38>> I have seen I have seen that I have seen

20:40that type of

20:41>> So that signals to friends that have

20:43sensory

20:45needs that that might be a better fit.

20:48>> Right.

20:49>> I have all things.

20:50>> Exactly.

20:52>> Right, but not everyone is overwhelmed

20:55by too much noise.

20:56>> Yeah. Yeah.

20:58>> Okay, thank you.

21:00>> Um I had a question Priya of how you

21:03determine which things um have the

21:05target completion date of June 2028

21:08versus ongoing? Cuz it a lot of them it

21:10seemed like they everything but the 300s

21:12seemed like they could probably be

21:13ongoing.

21:15>> That's

21:17good observation.

21:19Uh

21:20>> It's I mean it's probably irrelevant,

21:22right? Like that's when

21:23when this document ends.

21:25>> Right. Right. And there are some things

21:28that I think you can end in June 28 and

21:32then continue again next year.

21:34Uh

21:35Yeah, I mean that

21:37I guess all of them could be ongoing

21:39because it's

21:40all the services that we do provide. Um

21:45Some

21:46clearly I think uh could be described as

21:49ongoing.

21:51And some could have a target ending. So

21:55just

22:01>> Could you Could you Could you replace

22:03target completion date with next

22:05evaluation date or something? So So that

22:08it's it's not indicator of completion,

22:10but

22:13>> Yeah.

22:13>> Yeah.

22:14>> Sure.

22:20>> Sounds very comprehensive.

22:23Um Um

22:25Do we want to vote approve the action

22:27plan or

22:29Do you want to make a motion to approve

22:32or other further comments or questions?

22:39>> I make a motion to approve

22:41the action plan on the action.

22:43>> Thank you, Purnima.

22:45>> I second.

22:46>> Thank you, Louise. All those in favor?

22:49I.

22:50All those opposed? And that passes.

22:56Next item on our agenda is facility

22:58equipment and grounds,

23:01um the technology update.

23:03Um

23:06>> And yeah, I shared the cyber secure the

23:10report on the cyber security incident.

23:13As you know, it was uh yeah, I know.

23:16Um

23:18I [clears throat] think our

23:19um technology librarians, Holly and

23:21Jess, did an amazing job

23:25uh along with working along with town IT

23:28folks. And um

23:31they wrote this report after the

23:34incident. And if you recollect a few

23:38months ago, I had shared the

23:40technology policy that they had

23:43developed, which

23:45cyber security policy actually. And

23:48unfortunately, we had to experience

23:50this.

23:51Um but it was a way of um way to not

23:56only deal with the situation, but also

23:59to see if we had the points, you know,

24:02if we had

24:04um anticipated

24:06um

24:08and what kind of response we would

24:11provide. So, I think it matched that

24:13quite well. Unfortunately, I mean, it's

24:15not something you want to

24:17um

24:18experience to prove that you're right

24:21when you created a cyber security

24:23policy.

24:24But um

24:26so

24:28as you can see this report tells you

24:31what happened and what steps were taken

24:35immediately after and

24:38they worked with town IT and CW Mars

24:43technology librarians there also

24:47because so many of our networks are

24:49connected to both. It's so complicated

24:52everything in the library. The public

24:54computers are in a different network

24:57staff computers are in a different part

25:00of a different network and though it was

25:08a phishing email that was sent from my

25:10email that was the

25:12starting point. They they advised the

25:15town IT advised us to shut down

25:18everything. All the networks were shut

25:21down.

25:22People did not have access to the public

25:23computers, all the staff computers for

25:27a day at least they were not able to

25:29access their emails or anything on their

25:33hard drive

25:34and

25:36they asked us to install new software on

25:40every single computer so our librarians

25:42had to go go about doing it for every

25:45staff computer

25:50and also for the public computers in

25:52order to be able to catch any malicious

25:56uh um you

25:58know, intrusion any phishing attempts.

26:04So, even I thought it was a little too

26:06much to

26:08you know, take all these steps but I

26:10guess these days you cannot be

26:13too careful. I thought just resetting

26:17my email

26:20resetting the password or anyone else

26:22who had clicked on the link for them to

26:24reset their password was all that was

26:27required but apparently not.

26:30Uh so, it was

26:33Yeah, it was a brutal few days.

26:36Uh and again, great appreciation for

26:39Holly and Jess who

26:42took care of everything.

26:44We still don't have our public printing

26:46back in order because

26:49the that

26:51is somehow connected to both the

26:53networks, the CWMARS network and the

26:58town network.

26:59So, um they're figuring it out. The town

27:03would ideally like us to separate the

27:06two networks completely and uh so,

27:09they're thinking of a turn working on a

27:11turn around for the

27:13work around for that.

27:15Uh

27:16So, currently people can print, but not

27:20as in, you know, the way they used to

27:23do. So, it's through a different thing.

27:25So, they're working on that.

27:27Uh

27:30aspect of it.

27:32>> It was crazy. I was there when the

27:33warning had happened.

27:34>> I have done nothing

27:35>> Nothing. Check out a book even. And they

27:38couldn't do I said, "Couldn't you just

27:39write down the number?" She laughed.

27:41It wouldn't even let say whether you had

27:43a

27:44possibility error so great. And as I

27:47understood it, it was one of your staff

27:48members named not included, um

27:51who opened up your email and out of her

27:54own computer.

27:55>> Yeah.

27:56>> And then that computer must have been

27:57then they Staff people were saying like

27:59they

28:00whoever these malicious actors were that

28:02they were in there for hours, as I

28:04understand it.

28:06>> Um yeah, I mean, that's

28:08>> I mean, that's the danger. So, your

28:09private computer doesn't have the the

28:11guards on it that you know, if you just

28:13do it at work, you know.

28:15>> Right. Right. So, so we had uh

28:18someone the cyber security person from

28:21the town

28:22uh came and spoke to all of us at uh the

28:25staff meeting last week, you know, about

28:27do's and don'ts. And the first thing he

28:30said was use your personal computer just

28:33for your personal stuff and work

28:35computers for

28:37to check your work email and don't

28:40you know

28:41>> It turns out that the damage was done

28:43library computers. It really wasn't

28:46fortunately to the staff members

28:48>> Yeah. Yeah, as far as we could see there

28:51was no damage done but as I said they

28:53asked us to wipe everything out and

28:56they gave me a new laptop and uh

29:00added more software to all the

29:03computers.

29:03>> And what

29:04you haven't seen yourself so went

29:06through your email.

29:07>> Yes, I haven't

29:08>> there's some way that they could make

29:10that happen. Interesting.

29:12>> Yeah.

29:13Yeah, but it's interesting but that also

29:15originated from my personal laptop. Or

29:18was it in my work email? Yeah.

29:20>> have to be careful Yeah, with laptops.

29:25Yeah, yeah.

29:26Can't be too careful

29:28what you click on and

29:30Yeah, or I don't even know how it's

29:32Yeah.

29:32>> Clicking on links is the most

29:34>> the most horrible.

29:35>> Yeah, you have to be careful about

29:38because my email the email from where

29:40the

29:42um from where it originated had my

29:44correct email. It wasn't spelled wrong

29:47or anything.

29:48So it was the link that was that led to

29:54>> These guys are very good at making the

29:56emails look authentic with the graphics

29:59and stuff that they put in them.

30:01Can't be too careful.

30:02>> Yeah.

30:04>> Well, I was so thorough.

30:06>> Yes, they

30:07>> longer for you waiting to get everything

30:09back in a minute but reading this it

30:11just makes you feel like okay, they did

30:13a great job.

30:14>> They did.

30:15>> I I had one question it was about the

30:17server this ENS1 server. What's that all

30:21about? Do you have like a fixed server

30:23and that's it you know suspect and now

30:25you want to go to cloud or something?

30:27>> Yeah. It's it's pretty complicated. So

30:30the computer that is at the main desk um

30:34not the one facing the public here but

30:36the one um, Claire, you would have seen

30:39it, the one that's um,

30:41that faces the staff area there. That

30:45computer, we call it the almighty.

30:47That's our term for it.

30:48>> [laughter]

30:50>> Because

30:51we say, you know, that has to be on for

30:54everything else in the all the systems

30:57to be on in the library. And that is the

31:01EMLSR one computer. And that is

31:06apparently in both networks.

31:09The CW MARS and the

31:13town ITs. And

31:16yeah,

31:18that So, that one has has to be They

31:22don't want it the town IT does not want

31:24it to be on two networks.

31:26>> Oh, okay. And

31:27that makes sense.

31:28>> Yeah.

31:29>> And that's why you call it the almighty

31:30though.

31:31>> That's why we call it the almighty

31:33because it does. Yeah, it's it's

31:37It's difficult to explain. I personally

31:40did not understand every bit of what was

31:42going on. That day with all the servers

31:45and all the networks and

31:47like that.

31:50>> Well, I'm glad that there was no harm

31:52done and I'm and I I really liked how

31:54timely your response was and

31:57your communication to us through other

31:59means. Um, yeah, was was wonderful.

32:04Yeah, so

32:06Thank you. Yeah, no, all's all's well

32:08that ends well.

32:10Thank you for that update. Yes, the

32:12report is is very thorough. Thank you to

32:15Holly and Jess.

32:16They did a great job.

32:20Okay. Gifts and grants. Anything under

32:24>> Yeah, this should come under that

32:26actually. The Sunday donors, yes, I

32:29would like to

32:31acknowledge and thank all the

32:33individuals and the businesses that

32:36um, sent their contributions for our

32:40Sunday program.

32:42Dr. Dale McGee and Mrs. Melanie McGee

32:44have provided funds for six Sundays.

32:48Webster Five Bank and the Shrewsbury

32:51Education Association

32:53provided funding for two Sundays.

32:56And we also have two anonymous donors.

32:59For

33:00the following businesses and individuals

33:03provided funding for one Sunday each.

33:06The first is of James A. Heedles,

33:10the Bettini family in memory of Ruth

33:13Seward, John P. Collins and Nancy Hughes

33:17in memory of Dr. John P. Collins, the

33:19Del Dado grandchildren Rhea, Dylan, and

33:22Devin,

33:23Olivia Peg and Don Herbert, Kathleen and

33:27David Rocheleau,

33:28Richard and Allison Ricker,

33:31Wagner Company,

33:34and the Olive I. and Anthony A.

33:37Buccigrossi, Jr. Donor Advised Fund. I'd

33:40like to thank all of them.

33:43Our big

33:44patrons really love the fact that the

33:46library is open on Sundays from October

33:49through May,

33:50and we're very, very grateful to all

33:53those who have made it happen.

33:57>> Yes, thank you to our Sunday sponsors.

33:59Incredible.

34:03Okay, the next item on our agenda is

34:06about the the personnel subcommittee met

34:08with

34:10Priya to go over her progress towards

34:12fiscal year 2017 goals.

34:16So, Poornima was out of town, so April

34:18and I met with

34:20Priya, and

34:23we met with her for over an hour, and we

34:26she's, you know, has all of her goals

34:29for the year laid out.

34:31She's working towards the next strategic

34:33planning

34:35process, and that will be from

34:38to cover for years 2030 to 2035, so

34:41that's already in the works.

34:44She's re- weeding and reorganizing adult

34:46non-fiction, fiction, and biography.

34:49Planning for a the community reading

34:50program in 20 spring of 2027.

34:54Um staff training around AI and a draft

34:58of a new AI policy.

35:01And ongoing ongoing outreach into the

35:03community and working on a grant for

35:06arts and cultural programs for children

35:08and families. And and actually so much

35:12more than that but but that that's a a

35:14good

35:15good summary of the high points. So,

35:18yes, thank thank you for going over that

35:20with us.

35:21>> Thank you.

35:21>> And uh yes.

35:23Your your um

35:26your

35:27your uh

35:29your goals are multifaceted and you do a

35:31lot, so thank you.

35:34>> Thank you.

35:36>> And

35:38our big item on the agenda is that the

35:41Shrewsbury Public Library Foundation

35:44held their their gala

35:46um

35:47on October 23rd, this past Friday, and I

35:51I don't know. I think we were all

35:53there.

35:54>> Yes, it was absolutely beautiful. It was

35:57very celebratory.

35:59It was

36:01So, the library looked so festive and

36:03elegant and

36:05Yes, I I think we were all happy with

36:08Yeah, so we don't know yet how much

36:10money that was. That's still being

36:12worked out.

36:13>> Did you have anything to say about

36:14>> Oh, I was just so pleased with the how

36:18everything went off and uh

36:21couldn't believe it. After almost a year

36:23of planning, the day was upon us and it

36:26it was just fantastic. It was great to

36:28see community members uh

36:31so happy and enjoying themselves.

36:34>> It was yeah, so [snorts] happy.

36:36I did not realize that they were going

36:38to be there that day. They were such a

36:39good part of it. Um I know everyone who

36:42was on that committee

36:43>> They did it too, but that that was a

36:45lot.

36:46>> Steph and Marie

36:47>> Yeah, they took on a lot of

36:48>> Did we have a lot of people taking tours

36:50of the

36:52makerspace?

36:53>> Um, I think we don't have the exact

36:56number, the total number of people, but

36:58a few um

37:00people who were really impressed with

37:01the makerspace, yeah.

37:04Mhm.

37:05Yeah.

37:08>> And we had um

37:10Congressman Jim McGovern and

37:13State Senator Michael Moore and many

37:16members of

37:18town leadership, select board, and

37:20school committee, so that was very nice.

37:22Um

37:24Yeah, it was uh amazing.

37:26>> Yes.

37:27>> It was really a nice event.

37:30And we have to thank Mo Boulware for

37:33being the inspiration behind that. It

37:35wouldn't have taken place without him,

37:37so It definitely wouldn't have, yeah.

37:40No, I I mean he really was the

37:42inspiration, so

37:44>> And all the hard work of all the

37:46>> Everybody, yes, yes, yes, yeah,

37:49absolutely.

37:50>> It was a team effort.

37:51>> It was a team effort.

37:53>> Is there any thought as to how often it

37:55will be repeated?

37:56>> I don't know.

37:57>> [laughter]

37:58>> Oh, this is good stuff 10 year

37:59anniversary.

38:01>> Yeah, 10 year.

38:03>> Another 10 years? Yeah, maybe.

38:04>> Yeah, 2036.

38:06>> Yeah, it's

38:08Okay,

38:09it's fun.

38:11>> It was fun.

38:12>> It was a lovely event.

38:13>> [snorts]

38:14>> Okay.

38:15Um

38:16Friends of the library, we had our

38:17annual meeting

38:19on October 7th and Carol Cohen came and

38:24uh played the part of Abigail Adams and

38:27had

38:28a tea party with us and it was and a

38:30talk and it was it was it was very nice.

38:33It was fun.

38:34Yes.

38:35Very, very nice.

38:38Okay.

38:41Okay, so policies

38:44um

38:45We had a discussion about the third

38:46party fundraiser at our last

38:51meeting and we realized we should review

38:54this

38:55um

38:56policy which I believe we set in 2025.

39:00Um, but we do get a lot of requests for

39:04these uh

39:06collection drives um

39:08and fundraisers so we thought we should

39:10go over it again.

39:14So, I think the sticking point was

39:17um

39:19see if I can

39:22No no more than four fundraising sales,

39:25for example, a bake sale

39:27and no more than four community

39:29collection drives, for example, Toys for

39:32Tots

39:34will be approved each year

39:36with no more than one of each book per

39:39quarter.

39:41So, that's every 3 months.

39:45And each collection drive is not to

39:46exceed 1 month in length

39:49unless approved by the director.

39:53So so we do

39:56>> I think it depending on the time of the

39:58year

39:59we get more than

40:00one request like the holidays, the

40:02fourth quarter of the year is when

40:06we get more requests.

40:09>> And do we have statistics on numbers of

40:11requests and even just numbers of

40:13requests to be typed?

40:15My guess is that there are more

40:17fundraisers than there are collection

40:19drives, but I might be incorrect.

40:21>> I think they're all collection drives.

40:23>> There are more collection drives.

40:24>> Yeah, cuz the library is a common place

40:27and that lobby is frequented area. So,

40:29having a collection box there is a is a

40:33a high traffic spot for people to drop

40:36things.

40:36>> Okay.

40:37>> So, it it does go back to the idea of

40:40what what is considered an ask

40:42>> Right.

40:43>> of our community when we when people

40:44come in and we want them to feel

40:46welcome.

40:47>> Yeah.

40:47>> versus what is um you know, what what

40:50are we asking them to either donate

40:51something or provide something?

40:54You know, when we're we're trying to be

40:55a welcoming space. So, there's a balance

40:57there that we're trying to strike.

40:58>> We can post both ways cuz if you want to

40:59give to Toys for Tots, it makes it easy

41:01cuz it's right there.

41:02>> Yes.

41:03>> Yeah, I think then

41:04>> Some of us are in here all the time. So,

41:06>> Yes. Yes, exactly.

41:07>> Um so, it

41:08>> It's happened with the Halloween candy

41:10and the Veterans

41:12>> uh cards for Veterans and then the Toys

41:15for Tots. In fact, the Toys for Tots box

41:19just showed up. I was not

41:23I shouldn't say that.

41:24>> [laughter]

41:25>> I wasn't here last week and that box is

41:28here. So, it was dropped off.

41:31Um

41:33So, it is the time of the year.

41:36It's the time of the year when

41:38you know, we get more requests.

41:41>> I think we just wanted the flexibility

41:44to

41:45to have it like subject to the board's

41:47discretion that if we wanted to make an

41:49exception that we could because the way

41:51it's written at the moment, it's like we

41:53can't do that. Right, it's very

41:55structured.

41:56>> But then I think we do need to recognize

41:58the fact that the fourth quarter of the

42:00year is the time where we will be asked

42:03to do more things. So, if there were

42:05none in quarter two,

42:08to sort of save that and roll it over

42:10into quarter four, do do we have that

42:12level of flexibility? Some amounts.

42:15>> And also, one thing I was just thinking

42:17of um

42:19like a

42:20a fundraising sale is much different

42:23from a collection drive. I mean, I don't

42:25think most people think a collection

42:27drive is terribly burdensome.

42:29Um but a a fundraising sale might be a

42:32little bit

42:34more not well, we want to promote maybe.

42:37I I think

42:39um

42:40We we don't want to make people feel

42:42like they have to purchase

42:44baked goods or whatever, you know.

42:47>> But if we are asking them to give

42:50the candy after Halloween and these

42:53folks are going to take it, give it to

42:55someone else. I think that seems

42:58you know, close.

43:00>> Yeah, not as burdensome. And and almost

43:03like you're doing

43:04also maybe

43:06helping people.

43:12>> So, would you suggest something like at

43:14the discretion of the

43:15>> Yeah, subject to the discretion of the

43:17board or something like that at the end

43:19of the

43:20at the end of the first sentence in the

43:22last bullet point.

43:25Just to

43:27something like that would just give us

43:28the flexibility to be able to

43:32you know, probably be

43:32>> I just

43:33that one of each per quarter at the

43:36discretion of the board.

43:39Well, that means they could be more but

43:41for the last quarter if needed.

43:44>> Right, but if we happen to get two in

43:46the spring, like to support them both or

43:48you know, whatever whatever it is. I

43:50don't think we need to be so specific

43:52about the fourth quarter.

43:56Would it would any drive exceed a month

43:59that you've like has any Okay, so we

44:01don't need to worry about that part.

44:05>> Should we make a distinction between

44:07sales and collection drives?

44:11>> [snorts]

44:12>> I don't know. Like in my mind I was

44:14thinking you wouldn't want to have a you

44:16might not want to have a sale more than

44:18every 3 months

44:20but you might have a collection drive

44:22every month even.

44:24Maybe. I don't I don't

44:25>> Yeah, separating the two

44:27I think.

44:29>> Yeah.

44:29>> Right. Each one could be a separate

44:32bullet point.

44:33>> Yeah. I I don't know. It's just a

44:35thought.

44:37I I don't It makes sense to me but

44:40and then it'd be at the discretion of

44:41the board also is

44:43>> to be added to the

44:45>> only pertaining to the collection

44:46drives.

44:48>> Yeah, I'm just thinking like

44:50>> collection drives is definitely a little

44:52different than sales.

44:54>> Yeah.

44:56>> So, it

44:57>> could say no more than four fundraising

44:59sales will be approved each year with no

45:02more than one of each per quarter

45:03period.

45:04>> Mhm.

45:04>> No more than four community collection

45:06drives will be approved each year with

45:09no more than one of each per quarter

45:11subject to the discretion of the board.

45:12>> I think that's something to strive for.

45:13>> Got it. I like that.

45:16>> Editing on the fly.

45:17>> subject to the discretion of the board.

45:20>> And the sales would be like a hard stop

45:22every 3 months.

45:23>> Yeah.

45:24>> Okay, I I

45:25>> Does that make sense?

45:26>> I like that.

45:31Okay.

45:32Yeah.

45:33>> Are you good at thinking on the fly?

45:35>> Not my strength, but yes.

45:37>> [laughter]

45:40>> Any other thoughts?

45:44>> Do we want to do I presume that we would

45:47be all I want to make sure that we're

45:48open to to feedback from from you know

45:51if because you're already doing certain

45:53surveys and things, could that also be

45:55part of some of the surveys that that

45:57some of the

45:58>> the public

46:00>> from your public since you're doing

46:01community hub and other

46:04aspects since you're doing some surveys

46:05and whatnot,

46:07maybe we can add

46:09the about how how do patrons feel about

46:11the library as a welcoming space? How do

46:13they feel about the library as a

46:15community space where community groups

46:18both gather, ask for collection items,

46:21sometimes uh conduct you know, small

46:24sales events, those kind of things. If

46:25that could be sort of incorporated into

46:27the feedback so that the board has an

46:29idea of are we going in the right

46:30direction or are we

46:32are we are we presuming that this is no

46:34big deal and other people are feeling

46:35like it is onerous or are we saying that

46:37we think it might be onerous and other

46:38people like it's not a problem.

46:40So, I I I'd want to double-check

46:42ourselves.

46:43>> I think that's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah.

46:46>> We'll try and include that question in a

46:49future survey.

46:50>> Okay, super.

46:52>> That was a great idea.

46:57>> So, does does anybody want to make a

47:00motion to approve the amendment as April

47:04articulated it?

47:06Or are we going to discuss this further?

47:09>> I I move to approve the amendment.

47:12As per April.

47:13>> And I also think it has

47:14>> I'll I'll type this.

47:16>> I'll email you the policy back with any

47:18changes.

47:18>> Okay.

47:21Okay.

47:21>> Okay.

47:22>> Or or should we should we amend the

47:24policy and then vote on it next month?

47:26Or

47:27or or should we just approve it right

47:29now?

47:30Cuz you I mean, I think we all agree,

47:31right? We can just vote on it right now,

47:34right? Okay, so Claire made a motion. Do

47:37I have a second?

47:38>> Yes, I second.

47:39>> All those in favor of amending? I.

47:43All those opposed? Okay. So, that

47:45passes. So, we'll amend it as per

47:48April's the way she articulated it.

47:51>> Did you also have a chance to look at

47:54the questions at the

47:56end of that survey end of the policy?

48:00Just to make sure we have it all right.

48:07>> I think it looks good.

48:09>> I don't I don't see anything wrong.

48:11>> How will they

48:12>> I think we had talked about that

48:14nonprofit they shouldn't be there.

48:16>> will they they have their proof with

48:17them?

48:17>> Yeah, now what is this the most

48:19problematic?

48:20>> Well, most of the

48:20>> If it's high school students asking you

48:22something.

48:22>> That's right.

48:23>> Yeah.

48:24Maybe we take that off.

48:29>> I mean, if high school students were

48:31work were working with a

48:33a national or international

48:34organization, they would actually have a

48:37channel by which to be able to request

48:39the EIN or or the the 501(c)(3) status

48:44of the organization.

48:46>> I'll take it always.

48:47>> Reverse the three and the C's, it might

48:49be C3.

48:49>> Or could you just add like if

48:51applicable?

48:51>> If applicable.

48:52>> If applicable, right.

48:53>> I did that too.

48:55>> I like it.

48:57>> And this is kind of silly, but the name

49:00of contact person has a period after it

49:02and none of the other ones have a period

49:04after

49:05>> It's actually

49:06>> Yeah.

49:13>> I've got minutes.

49:15>> Should we hold on that for

49:17>> You have to get that.

49:18>> Yeah, so

49:20>> We have a motion to approve um

49:24Please provide proof of non-profit

49:26status of the organization if

49:28applicable.

49:30We have a motion.

49:32>> Sure, I'll make a motion to approve the

49:34provision of non-profit status to go

49:36through with the one on the contact.

49:37>> All those in favor?

49:38>> I.

49:39>> All those opposed?

49:40>> Okay, so those two changes passed.

49:43>> Thank you.

49:43>> And who was the contact person who

49:44seconded that?

49:46>> Thank you.

49:49>> I was just kind of curious, have we ever

49:51had a problem with this?

49:54>> Um no. We I mean last time I brought two

49:58requests.

49:59>> Right.

50:00>> Uh for the same quarter. That's how we

50:02started talking about it.

50:03>> yeah, but I mean they've all been

50:04legitimate requests.

50:06>> Oh yeah, legitimate requests, yeah.

50:07>> And then knowing that there was sort of

50:09this standing uh thing with with the

50:11twice per year thing.

50:13>> Yeah, three times, two or three, so

50:15>> Yes, you were last.

50:16>> Yeah, but it's so so yeah, we were

50:18trying to figure out if that or if

50:19that's too much to ask.

50:21>> No, we haven't had any problems.

50:22>> No.

50:23>> But I'm

50:24still trying to figure out what if

50:26applicable applies to you. So does that

50:28mean we would approve a bake sale for a

50:31profit purpose?

50:33>> No.

50:33>> And I can't be in agreement. So what

50:34does the if applicable mean? What does

50:36it relate to?

50:38>> I want to find out like so for example,

50:40we were um

50:41someone was concerned about what the

50:43nature of the group was, where the candy

50:45drive was being sent, or what the nature

50:47of the veteran center was, that it's

50:48where it was located. So so just some

50:51additional information as to what the

50:52purpose of the drive is and who's who's

50:54asking

50:55on whose behalf.

50:57>> Maybe instead of the word applicable, we

50:59could sell We we do it

51:01if needed.

51:03>> But when is that not needed?

51:05>> Well, when it comes to you know, it's a

51:07high school with the kids from the high

51:08school. We know who they are. Or we you

51:10know, we know some of these

51:11organizations like Toys for Tots. It's

51:13like if it's a new one, it's like maybe

51:16then we just need some confirmation that

51:19they actually are a non-profit.

51:22>> For completeness' sake?

51:24>> That's what that's that's the way that

51:26that would be interpreted for

51:28completeness' sake.

51:28>> Yeah, it would be it would be that kind

51:30of thing. Yeah.

51:31But it's tough. So

51:34>> But your question is when is it not

51:36needed?

51:37Right?

51:37You said

51:38>> My question Yeah, exactly. Under what

51:40circumstance would would

51:42would it not be necessary? And there

51:44isn't there really isn't any

51:46circumstance because if someone wanted

51:48to

51:48conduct a profit-making enterprise here,

51:52we would obviously say no.

51:55I think.

51:56>> Yeah.

51:58>> So

51:58>> But for this for the purposes of of of

52:00this, I guess we would. Yeah. We have we

52:02have had other other sales that the

52:04board has approved. They weren't They

52:06weren't fundraisers, but they but they

52:08weren't fundraisers or charity

52:09collections.

52:10>> Correct.

52:10>> Yeah. Okay.

52:11>> So

52:12I I I don't I I

52:13So I don't really think we need to the I

52:16think we need to ask

52:18proof of non-profit status.

52:22>> Well, so the second paragraph says um

52:25that we may allow occasional fundraising

52:27sales or community collection drives by

52:29not-for-profit civic or community

52:31capacity not-for-profit civic or

52:33community groups. Okay, so we only allow

52:35them by nonprofits.

52:41>> All right, so then

52:44either we take that out all together

52:47or we we say that we need proof that

52:50it's a non-profit organization.

52:52And I don't think it's that difficult I

52:54don't think it's that onerous a task.

52:56It's not something that

52:57that would be difficult for anyone even

52:59a high school student to acquire.

53:03>> Well, I think the idea I think part of

53:06the reason it came up last time was

53:07because the student who was asking to do

53:09letters to veterans was

53:12was she part of a

53:14larger group or was it like something

53:15that an individual wants to do? Like she

53:17was just

53:18>> So she was with an out of she wanted to

53:20do it for an out of state organization.

53:22>> wanted to send them to New Hampshire or

53:23something.

53:24>> Yeah.

53:25Right. But yeah, with that was out of

53:27state that they wanted to do.

53:29>> But was she asking as an

53:30>> She was Was she asking as an

53:31>> It's a little bit off.

53:32>> medical alert for a person who has

53:33private insurance.

53:34>> She was part of a

53:37She as an individual, she was asking.

53:39But she said she was going to send it to

53:41this group.

53:43>> Okay.

53:46>> So

53:48>> you're saying is that that should be

53:49included in the whole for nonprofits

53:51that are because she was

53:54>> But that's where that applicable would

53:55come in.

53:56>> She didn't have a list of service people

53:58to whom she was going to send things.

54:00She was going to send

54:03the cards to some organization

54:06to send.

54:08All right?

54:09>> They probably should have had proof of

54:10their nonprofit

54:11>> Precisely.

54:12>> Yeah.

54:15>> I mean, it makes It's always

54:17It's always at our discretion whether to

54:19approve or not approve.

54:21>> Correct.

54:22>> Um whether they provide the

54:26501 What is it?

54:27>> 501C3

54:28>> 3C documents or not.

54:31So

54:33I don't I don't think it really hurts us

54:35to just put if applicable.

54:38I don't think. Um

54:41I don't know, Deb. Does anybody have any

54:42thoughts on that? Should we Should we

54:44backtrack and just require it?

54:47>> Well, then we would run the risk of

54:48having four people decide they want to

54:50do something through them or

54:51organizations of which we are familiar.

54:54I mean, we already know their 501C3

54:57status and I may have reversed the C and

54:59the 3.

55:01And then the fourth person comes in and

55:03says, "I want to do something for this

55:05organization." And we ask the fourth

55:07person for proof that we didn't ask we

55:10didn't request of the first three.

55:14Because so if the fourth person knows

55:16how the first three were treated, then

55:19the fourth person might say, "Well, why

55:20are you asking me and not the three

55:22people who were in line ahead of me?"

55:24>> Okay.

55:25>> So, we should just leave it the way it

55:26was.

55:27>> Yeah.

55:28>> Can we recent that?

55:31>> We've never done that before.

55:34>> Well, yeah.

55:35>> We take it off?

55:35>> Yeah, I can probably take it off.

55:37>> Take it off? I'm I'm fine with taking it

55:39off.

55:40>> Okay.

55:40>> I just don't want it to be if applicable

55:43because it's always applicable.

55:45>> Okay.

55:46>> Okay. So, we're we're leaving it We're

55:47leaving the policy that part as is. You

55:50still have to provide the proof and

55:51we're not adding that.

55:54Right?

55:54>> Yeah, I think we got to vote on that

55:55again.

55:56>> I think so, too.

55:58>> No, wait. I thought we were taking the

56:00the requirement for proof off

56:01altogether.

56:02>> Yes, but we just voted to approve it.

56:05>> Yeah.

56:05>> And now we're going to go back.

56:08So, we're going to

56:09>> vote to to go back.

56:11>> Okay. We're We're leaving that line

56:13We're leaving that there. They still

56:15have to prove it, right?

56:16>> Yeah. Yeah, so we're leaving it.

56:18But since we already voted, don't we

56:20have to vote again?

56:21>> Yes.

56:22>> Yeah, I think we do. Yeah.

56:23>> I'm going to make a new motion that we

56:26that the language

56:28on the request to conduct a fundraiser

56:30or collection drive at the Shrewsbury

56:32Public Library include the statement,

56:34"Please provide proof of the nonprofit

56:36status of the organization."

56:38That's my motion. Does anyone second?

56:41>> I'll second it.

56:42>> All those in favor?

56:44I. All those opposed? Okay, so we're

56:46going back to the original language for

56:48that second page and for the policy.

56:51Okay.

56:52>> Thank you.

56:52>> Okay, I think I think we're good.

56:55>> Yeah.

56:55>> Okay.

56:57Okay, so um

57:00and then under miscellaneous, review and

57:02vote to approve state aid funds to pay

57:05for the Memory Cafe's coordinator

57:08stipend.

57:09>> Yes, so the Memory Cafe coordinator is

57:12paid a stipend of $300 per quarter.

57:16Uh so, it's

57:18$1,200 per year

57:20uh

57:21for manage

57:23organizing, helping organize the

57:26uh activities at the Memory Cafe. So, I

57:29just want to

57:30be able to continue that using state aid

57:33funds.

57:35>> I think that's certainly one of

57:38our you know, most prized programs.

57:42And we do need a coordinator.

57:45So,

57:46I move approval.

57:49Any seconds?

57:51>> I'm happy to second that.

57:53>> All those in favor?

57:54>> I.

57:55>> I. All those opposed? And that passes.

57:58Fantastic.

58:00And then, review and a vote to approve

58:02using state aid funds to pay for the

58:03design and printing of the fiscal year

58:06'26 annual report from the three boards.

58:09>> Yeah, I just want to

58:10>> Which annual report is already out

58:12there?

58:16>> Yes.

58:17>> Is that what we usually do?

58:19>> Yes. I mean, it's from the three boards,

58:22so one year the foundation had paid for

58:24it, but most the other two years it was

58:27the various state aid funds for that.

58:31So, I'm requesting

58:3326 $2,610

58:37uh

58:37for the cost of 400 copies of the annual

58:41report.

58:42>> Yes.

58:43>> I move to approve $2,000

58:45>> 610.

58:46>> Whatever the final digits were.

58:48And

58:49use the state aid funds to pay Yeah,

58:52wait, to pay

58:54to pay for the design and printing of

58:56the fiscal year '26 annual report

58:59from the three boards.

59:01>> Second.

59:02>> Thank you.

59:04>> I.

59:05>> All those opposed? And that passes.

59:08>> Thank you very much.

59:09>> And our next meeting is November 17th.

59:14>> Yeah, it's not the fourth Tuesday.

59:16>> That's the third.

59:17>> It's the fourth Tuesday because of

59:18Thanksgiving.

59:18>> We bumped up for November and December.

59:20We bumped up a week.

59:20>> Yes, the holidays.

59:21>> Because of the holidays.

59:22>> So, it's the third Tuesday instead of

59:24the fourth. It's that time of year.

59:26>> Yes.

59:27>> And we have a motion to adjourn.

59:31>> So [clears throat] moved.

59:32>> All those

59:33All those in favor?

59:34>> Aye.

59:35>> All those opposed?

59:37Thank you.

59:38>> Thank you.

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