2026-10-13 - Housing Authority

00:06Hello and welcome to the October board

00:08meeting of the Shoesbury Housing

00:09Authority. It is 4:00 on October 13th

00:11and I will call the meeting to order.

00:16I will take a motion regarding the

00:18minutes of the September meeting.

00:20>> Motion to approve the September minutes.

00:22Second.

00:24>> We have a first and we have a second.

00:26All those in favor?

00:27>> I. We are um at quorum but on a reduced

00:31overall board count.

00:33Second the treasurer and the financial

00:35report

00:41the summary and the bank balances look

00:43very healthy Kathy

00:46and uh meant to say Kelly excuse me. Um

00:50I will also take any questions regarding

00:53the revolving fund.

00:59There being none, [laughter] um I will

01:02take a motions regarding the revolving

01:04fund.

01:04>> Motion to approve the revolving fund as

01:07printed.

01:08>> Second.

01:09>> All those in favor?

01:11>> I.

01:12>> Okay, that brings us to section 8. I

01:14will take a motion there. Motion to

01:16approve the section 8 vouchers uh for in

01:20the portability and

01:26140

01:27>> I think you

01:28>> 139

01:29>> no section 8 first.

01:30>> Okay.

01:31>> And I need two separate motions if I

01:33>> motion to approve the section 8

01:35vouchers.

01:35>> Yeah.

01:36>> Second.

01:37>> All in favor?

01:38>> I I

01:39>> Okay. Section 8 passes unanimously.

01:41Kelly moving to the portability.

01:46Motion to approve the portability

01:48checks.

01:49>> Okay. Uh motion has been made to approve

01:51the se uh section 8 portability. It's

01:54143 checks at 28,974.

01:57All in favor?

01:58>> I

01:59I will take a motion for payroll.

02:01>> Motion to approve payroll as written.

02:04>> Second.

02:05>> Motion second. I'll take a vote. All in

02:08favor?

02:09>> I.

02:10>> So all unanimous. Kelly, talk to us

02:13about vacancies here. And for the

02:15record, we are at Francis and Elizabeth.

02:18>> Francis, we have two vacant. They're

02:21Champ ready, but maintenance are in the

02:25process of getting them ready. Um, same

02:29with Elizabeth too there. They're bulk

02:32champ ready and maintenance will be out

02:36of there hopefully today.

02:40Um

02:42and then we can move in.

02:44>> So it looks like according to this

02:46Elizabeth, both units will be done today

02:48or tomorrow.

02:49>> Yes.

02:50>> Were they a um what kind of shape were

02:52those units in? Average or below

02:53average?

02:54>> Average.

02:54>> Okay. And then there's two units here

02:56which I'm guessing it doesn't say this,

02:58but came in after availability after

03:00Elizabeth. They were And what kind of

03:02shape are those units in?

03:04>> They're good.

03:04>> Okay. And probably a week or something

03:06like that. Hard to say

03:08>> depending.

03:09>> Yeah.

03:10>> Okay.

03:11Um and family units were all leased up.

03:14>> All leased.

03:15>> Any questions regarding

03:17>> state units?

03:18>> No questions, but a a comment on our

03:20state units since March 1st. They've

03:22done 12, which is 12 in 6 months. We've

03:26had years where we've only done 12. So

03:28that kudos to uh maintenance staff

03:31because there's been what actually 12

03:34federal and 26 state. So that's 38 units

03:38in six months. We've never had a year

03:40like that. So

03:41>> no, we haven't. The guys

03:42>> are working.

03:44We appreciate that.

03:46>> Dar, that's a shout out to you who's in

03:48the audience. Thank you. [laughter]

03:51>> Um yeah, I did notice that it's um a

03:53healthy clip. I don't know what's going

03:55on. Uh are any of the uh So you say that

03:58champ ready. Do we have candidates yet?

04:00>> Yes, they're all ready.

04:02>> Okay. I say and

04:03>> so we're at the game. Yes. That was a

04:06very qualified yes. [laughter]

04:09>> Somewhat local.

04:11>> We've exhausted like

04:16>> local residents.

04:17>> Okay.

04:17>> And we're

04:19>> we're with locals.

04:21>> Good.

04:22>> Okay. Sorry. Trump my screen. All right.

04:26Uh talk to us about the tower.

04:28>> Towers. We have two apartments. Um

04:34one

04:36could take longer than

04:39normal.

04:40>> One was in rough shape. So, I was just

04:41saying. Okay. You can say that. Does

04:42that make

04:43>> inappropriate about that?

04:46>> And they're both welcome.

04:47>> Oh, good. Great.

04:49>> Your trunk is open.

04:50>> Great. Questions regarding the tower?

04:52>> Nope.

04:53>> Your open.

04:55>> All right. Um,

04:57>> section 8%

04:59at least.

05:00>> Good job.

05:00>> Good job. a diagonal social services

05:04report in my scan. Uh any comments on

05:07social services?

05:08>> Um Patty. So I have 25 residents.

05:11She's busy out and about

05:14helping.

05:16>> Any questions regarding social services?

05:18>> Nope.

05:19>> It's going to be a very quick meeting.

05:20Um okay, that takes us through the

05:23agenda all the way up to [music]

05:26um CPC, Elizabeth, old and new. So let's

05:28start with CPC. Um, we are not at full

05:32staff today because our CPC resident

05:35director is um, out ill. So, I would

05:39respectfully suggest tableabling that

05:41update unless by sheer proxy or

05:43coincidence you happen to have an

05:45update, Miss Mcweeny.

05:46>> I do not.

05:46>> Okay. All right. Um, Elizabeth Street

05:49update. Again, Richard and Kathy have

05:51been working on that. I don't know that

05:53there are any updates. Certainly

05:54Richard's not here. Oh, okay. That's

05:55okay. I was trying to lead the witness

05:57and you faked me out.

05:58>> Okay. So Kathy, we

06:00>> our meeting is scheduled with MHP for

06:02this Friday. So Kelly, Richard, and I

06:04will be attending that. So we'll have

06:05more of an update um next month, but at

06:08least the meeting is scheduled. They've

06:09assigned a consultant. So it's our

06:11kickoff meeting, and then we'll have an

06:12idea of what our next steps are.

06:14>> So this is the assigned consultant that

06:15we've been waiting for for this

06:17>> since for months. Yeah. Okay.

06:19>> Yep.

06:19>> And where's that meeting? At the tower.

06:22>> Yes.

06:23>> Well, it's it's virtual. So I need to be

06:26at the tower with you. Um and Richard

06:28will either join us or he'll log in.

06:30>> Okay. Okay. I didn't know if this

06:31consultant was coming to the conference.

06:34>> Yeah, there's about there's I think six

06:35of us that are going to be on the call.

06:36So, um the person from the consulting

06:39group and then the two people from um

06:41MHP that were here at our meeting in

06:43>> the two women. Yes.

06:45>> Yeah. Okay. That's great. So to refresh

06:46the audience's memory, we're pursuing a

06:48potential development project at

06:50Elizabeth Gardens and the I don't even

06:53want to say whole or delay, but the

06:54administrative process has been such

06:56that they were waiting to assign us a

06:58consultant from the state and now we

07:00have that consultant. So that's really

07:02that believe it or not, that's progress.

07:03That's good news. That's great.

07:05>> Um any questions regarding that? Any

07:07other official comment? Okay. So, under

07:11old news, uh, it was brought up last

07:15month regarding our flag policy for

07:19actually it was a resident of this

07:20development that, um, if I have that

07:22correct, that raised that concern. And

07:24what we instructed and asked uh Miss

07:26Berseron to do was to take a look at the

07:29[snorts] existing policy what the

07:32housing authority

07:34statewide policy is and potentially

07:36federal but because this is a state

07:37property statewide. She did do that. We

07:40do have a draft of a policy and I will

07:42tell you speaking for myself and not the

07:45board, the policy put out by the state

07:48in conjunction with federal guidelines

07:50for the US flag seems to be a very

07:53reasonable version of a policy that we

07:55could then baseline from. That said, we

07:57are down two members for this meeting.

07:59So, I want to table the formal

08:01discussion of what a second draft may

08:02look like, but I want to let at least

08:04the audience know that we have begun the

08:06process. Again, that said that we're not

08:08public forum, I would still take input

08:10or comments from my other two board

08:12members.

08:18>> I, if I may, I I think what we have put

08:21together for a draft is pretty good. My

08:23big thing is that the flag um it does

08:26say in there that the flag needs to be

08:28illuminated and it has to be taken down

08:29in inclement weather and this draft

08:31seems to address that. So I'm fine with

08:34um this version of it, but I again I'm

08:37I'm also our other two members may

08:40>> Yeah. Right. So the the net net under

08:42new business per a direct request from a

08:44resident of this facility is that it is

08:47in process. We are reviewing it. We take

08:49the request seriously and we've actually

08:51got a decent draft. It is not final.

08:54Maybe with some discussion at the next

08:56meeting under a full board presence, we

08:59can get to a final draft and then maybe

09:01by the following meeting give Kelly time

09:03to write it up, type it out and uh vote

09:05it into action. So we could be, you

09:08know, 60 days to have this entire thing

09:10resolved. That would be optimistic, but

09:12certainly plausible.

09:15Um that was old business. I don't think

09:18Kelly there is any new business, unless

09:19I'm mistaken.

09:20>> I don't think so. any new business from

09:22either of the additional board members?

09:25>> Um, I think the only other one other

09:27piece I have on my list from last time,

09:29the attorney, what where do we stand on

09:31that?

09:32>> So, I did reach out to Well, I did have

09:37that virtual meeting.

09:38>> Okay.

09:39>> They gave us five attorneys.

09:41>> Oh, yeah.

09:42>> To reach out to.

09:43>> Okay.

09:43>> And one of those attorneys was Hassan

09:45Donnelly, who I've been comfortable

09:48with. I reached out to Mr. Donnelly, who

09:53is not taken on any of your clients.

09:55>> Oh, but he's on the list that they gave

09:56you.

09:57>> Yes. And I said to him, he just emailed

10:00me

10:02>> um and gave me

10:05three more attorneys.

10:07>> Are we allowed to use people that aren't

10:08on that list of fives? Okay. So, that

10:10was just recommendations.

10:11>> That was just recommendations.

10:13Um, so I'm gonna reach out to them also,

10:16but at this point, no.

10:18>> Okay.

10:18>> We don't have any.

10:20>> Okay.

10:21>> For uh the home audience and the locals,

10:24we are in not in house. Our outouse

10:29attorney um of council is

10:34resigning, retiring, diminishing her

10:36practice. And so we are in the process

10:38of vetting a new um outside council. So

10:41that's what that discussion is about.

10:43That's technically all business as well.

10:45Any additional questions from the board?

10:49>> All right. Very quick meeting. What I

10:50will be glad to do given the eariness of

10:53the hour is um take any questions from

10:55the audience if there are any. And if

10:57so, please just identify your um name

11:00for the camera.

11:01>> What is you said policy on the flags.

11:03What is the policy?

11:05>> So it's a two-page draft document put

11:08out by the housing authority. It

11:10wouldn't make any sense for me to read

11:12it to you, but it talks about I can

11:14certainly give you the H1s, the

11:15headings. It talks about authorized

11:18types of displays, where you can have,

11:20what you can have, what you can have in

11:22common areas, etc. So, the policy

11:24addresses all of that. The existing

11:26policy, I believe, was baselined to

11:29that, which was that as a general rule,

11:32tenants cannot place stuff in common

11:34area with the exception being a US flag.

11:37So, it's a very long and detailed policy

11:39and we're refreshing it, but it one did

11:42exist

11:44even though there was a flag. Um, it was

11:47somewhat in compliance with this policy

11:48because it was a US flag, but it was in

11:50a common area and they say that's an

11:52exception, but then it has to be brought

11:54down in inclement weather and properly

11:55illuminated. And I don't think those um,

11:57at least in the specific example, those

11:59issues were specifically covered. So,

12:01we're going to, like I said, develop a

12:03new policy based on the outline and then

12:05move it forward from there.

12:08Ma'am,

12:08>> so every time that you it rains or snows

12:12or anything, your flag has to come down

12:14>> according to US flag.

12:15>> Yeah, that's US flag protocol. That's

12:17not

12:17>> Wow. Nobody uses that protocol at all.

12:20>> And it bothers me, [laughter] which is

12:22why we will.

12:23>> Yeah. I mean, I see flags all over town,

12:26you know,

12:26>> and they need to be illuminated at

12:28night.

12:28>> Illuminated is I I understand that part.

12:31No, I was wondering like the post office

12:33flag is up 24/7. The town hall takes

12:35theirs down every single day.

12:37>> Maple A takes it down every single day.

12:39I live right there down every single

12:41day.

12:41>> The post office does not.

12:43>> Oh, not our, you know, responsibility.

12:47[laughter] But I'll turn on the post

12:49office.

12:50>> Look at Y

12:52>> the pro I'm sorry. My I'm sorry. My name

12:55is Nancy Warren and the problem with the

12:58phrase inclement weather that is so

13:02broad.

13:03>> Yeah. [clears throat] Uh, so may I

13:06>> Yeah, certainly it's subjective. No

13:08doubt about it. You could certainly

13:09rationalize, and these are my words, not

13:12for the record by any means, a light

13:14mist or a quick passing rain shower or

13:15sunshin

13:18inclement versus a heavy downpour, snow

13:21tornado, those are probably very

13:23considered to be inclement. The gray

13:25area, as you point out, is very clearly

13:27in between. And that's um that's not for

13:30me to say, but correct.

13:36about two meetings ago, but it was

13:38attorney Rickard that

13:41addressed it. I live in 6B. 6A has the

13:45same problem. I brought up

13:49the gutters and the seams, which I was

13:53told last December during inspection and

13:56also this last inspection that I had.

13:59What when was it in September? I don't

14:01remember.

14:02And um already I've noticed because the

14:06seams and the water leaking already I've

14:08had ice on my patio which I was told I

14:12can't treat with salt or anything

14:14because it will damage the wood. My

14:16problem is in the the reason why I

14:18brought it up is in the winter and I

14:20believe it's the same on at 68. This is

14:23in the back.

14:25The there's mounds of ice outside my

14:27door where I can't open my door if I

14:29needed to get out. and every step on the

14:32way down there's this mounds of ice.

14:36Um, so I brought it up at two

14:39inspections.

14:42Um, I brought it up I think at least two

14:47board meetings. Attorney Rickard told me

14:50when I spoke of it to let him know a

14:53month later if it had been addressed. It

14:55hasn't been addressed. Now my question

14:56is, will it ever be addressed? because

14:59now they're saying starting no beginning

15:01of November they're going to be tearing

15:03roofs off the buildings. So is that So

15:06what do I do now?

15:07>> So the gutters should be with the roofs

15:10project.

15:11>> All right. cuz all it really needed to

15:13be uh in this when I was inspected

15:18last December, I was told all all they

15:21had to do it's the seams in the gutter

15:25that they had a seal that they could put

15:27on it and none of that would happen

15:28anymore. And um so I was told to bring

15:32it up again and bringing it up again.

15:35And uh just so you know with the roofs

15:38being done or if I ever have to get out

15:40the back door and that was my concern.

15:43I'm not getting out of it during the

15:44winter and nobody's getting in it if I

15:47need EMTs or something. And I only bring

15:49it up because we're so concerned about

15:50health issues and safety concerns here.

15:54I think it's pretty a safety situation

15:56for me

15:58>> and for my neighbor on the second floor.

16:00And also I don't think they're they even

16:02look out their back door. the ones in

16:046A.

16:07Also, is it true that when they're doing

16:09the roofing, there might be a day where

16:13one of our exits we not might not be

16:16able to use because they're Excuse me.

16:20>> Um,

16:21>> have you ever seen the roofing people

16:22do?

16:23>> No, I I'm not done.

16:24>> No, no, I'm on your side here. You ever

16:26seen that project? It's

16:29>> I've seen a few projects. I just saw

16:30sidewalks, everything else.

16:32>> And unless I'm wrong, when are we doing

16:35that?

16:35>> November.

16:36>> November.

16:37>> I'd like to let her finish, please.

16:38>> Let her finish.

16:40>> Sorry.

16:41>> So,

16:43what if they come down and they're doing

16:45my roofing and if they I don't know how

16:47these people do it. I've seen it done

16:49before where they put all these tarps

16:51and stuff and maybe if out front I can't

16:54get out the front door, then I have How

16:56am I getting out of my building?

16:59>> No. Because anything could happen in

17:01December, in November and December. We

17:03have no control over how if we're going

17:06to get snow, ice, or what. But forget

17:09all that. If they weren't even doing the

17:11roofs, what if something was going on

17:14where nobody could get to if something

17:16happened to me? And trust me, I don't

17:18sit around all day worrying about this

17:19stuff. Um,

17:22and they couldn't get in the front door

17:24to get to me cuz they're sure as hell

17:26not going to get in the back door once

17:28winter comes. And I'm not, if there's a

17:30fire in the front of the building, let's

17:31face it, I'm not getting out my back

17:33door. I only bring it up because you're

17:36so into if somebody has uh a little

17:39empty shopping bag out in their hallway.

17:41Oh, you better get get rid of that

17:43because it's a safety issue. But what

17:46I'm bringing up to you, does anybody

17:48think Tell me I shouldn't be worried.

17:54>> I mean, I'm not I'm trying not I'm not

17:56unreasonable. You know I'm not. You know

17:58I'm not.

17:59>> So,

18:01>> but I just I'm saying these things. I

18:04think even if it weren't me, if it was

18:07anybody in this room, I would advocate

18:09for them.

18:09>> Sure. So, let Kelly respond. Understood.

18:13>> With the gutters with the back deck,

18:16it's not only your building. It is other

18:19buildings with the gutters that when it

18:23freezes rain, there's puddles.

18:26>> It's not Kelly.

18:28>> It's ice this high. Mounds of ice on

18:31every step. A I can't open my back door.

18:34It's a mound of ice this high from the

18:37water coming down. So, with the new

18:40roofs, they will be doing new gutters

18:42with those to eliminate those problems.

18:46All right. And I can expect this by the

18:48end of December to have this problem

18:49solved.

18:50>> Yes.

18:51>> Okay.

18:53Also, as far as the um

18:58you said there were so many apartments

19:00that had to be done and yes, I'm sure

19:03the guys are real busy. Is that because

19:06of so many

19:08>> transfers from second floor to first

19:10floor within the complex and also

19:13several transfers from

19:15>> other Shbury Housing Authority buildings

19:18coming here.

19:19>> So,

19:20>> I mean, it's not a big deal to me. I've

19:21got an apartment.

19:22>> A transfer only is precipitated by an

19:25availability. You can't create

19:26availability with a transfer. So the the

19:30net change of apartments will only ever

19:33be because someone exits or opts out of

19:36Shoesbury Housing Authority. Now there's

19:38a variety of ways which somebody can

19:39leave obviously, but it's a zero sum

19:41game for units to be created. So if a

19:44unit is created because somebody goes to

19:46a nursing home, goes to live with their

19:48children, what have you, then we have a

19:50net new apartment. If somebody wants a

19:54transfer, then we move someone from a

19:57transfer down if there's a reason of

19:58protocols match and if it covers the um

20:01accommodations and all of that, but

20:03transfers alone can't create net new

20:05openings. The only way we can create a

20:07net new opening is for somebody to leave

20:08the housing authority.

20:10>> I guess I'm just saying that's why

20:11there's so many because for if somebody

20:13transfers instead of the guys doing one

20:15apartment, they're doing two.

20:17>> Yes. Yeah, you're correct about that.

20:19Yeah. You know, it is what it is cuz

20:22eventually I'm going to fit in for a

20:23first floor

20:26like this

20:27>> and you haven't either and you've been

20:28here a lot longer than me.

20:30>> Times have changed.

20:32>> It's like, you know, every

20:33>> I'm sorry I missed that.

20:34>> Everybody has their rights now. We have

20:36to put up with pot smokers. We have to

20:38put up with everything. When do we get

20:40our rights?

20:41>> So,

20:42>> what are our rights?

20:43>> What What's the question for me? The

20:45question is when do we stop kissing

20:48everyone's butt to accommodate for that?

20:50>> I don't kiss.

20:51>> And what about the rest of us?

20:53>> And there is a there is a smoke there is

20:55a a policy against smoking on housing

20:58authority properties.

20:59>> And if Kelly catches them, then there

21:02are repercussions, but she's got to

21:04catch them.

21:04>> I mean, we have people being taken out

21:06by ambulance because it's all stoned

21:08out.

21:08>> They're passing out.

21:09>> It's embarrassing.

21:10>> One two days in a row.

21:12>> It's embarrassing to be here. So,

21:14>> by the way, we don't have to kiss

21:16anybody's anything. I know I don't. My

21:18problem is

21:21>> Well, actually, if you want to smoke,

21:22smoke. The problem comes in,

21:25>> right?

21:26>> When you just If you want to come out

21:28with a little smoke, be discreet. Smoke

21:31it. But don't come out with your grinder

21:34and this that, and the other, and then

21:36do it all day to the point where you're

21:38passing out.

21:40>> And then tell people like me, "Please

21:42don't call 911.

21:44All right. So,

21:45>> administer me medication. No, I'm not.

21:47I'm calling 911.

21:49>> So, there is no smoking policy. So, I'll

21:51I'll disagree with if you want to be

21:53discreet. I'll say no, there's no

21:55discreet. There's no room for discreet.

21:56There's no smoking policy. Um, with

21:59regards to your formal question

22:00regarding the gutters and the um wall

22:03and the roof,

22:04>> I heard Kelly say that should be done by

22:06end of year. I'll look to Gary for a

22:08nod. He just gave me one. I will say

22:11that if it isn't resolved or if we need

22:13to circle back, we're glad and happy to

22:15be your advocate and to do so.

22:16>> No, in all fairness to Kelly, she I

22:19mean, she had a meeting. She explained

22:20everything that's being done fully. So,

22:23I'm aware and everybody else is aware.

22:25She explained it all. I was just

22:28because Attorney Ricker did tell me to

22:30bring it up if it wasn't done. I wasn't

22:32going to because being aware that the

22:34roofs were being done, I assumed the

22:37gutter was going to come along with it,

22:39>> but I just

22:40>> wanted to bring it up again.

22:42>> Some I was just going to say if for some

22:44reason the gutter in the roof doesn't

22:46solve the problem, which I'm sure

22:48everyone's optimistic through it will,

22:49but if something goes sideways or

22:50there's a problem with the step or

22:51thing, please go through the normal

22:53channels, Gary, Kelly, whatever, and we

22:55will, you know, you have a right for the

22:57peaceful, safe, quiet enjoyment of your

22:58area. And we we feel very strongly about

23:01that. Okay. Well, thank you.

23:02>> Are there any other questions?

23:05So, um, go ahead.

23:07>> She put her hand up first.

23:08>> I just want to apologize

23:10>> the the post office does bring down

23:12their flag. Just want to make sure

23:14everybody [laughter] knows.

23:16>> I don't have to go up there. Thank you.

23:17>> Emailing them a minute ago. So,

23:19>> yes, they do take bring down their flag.

23:21Sorry about that. [laughter]

23:23>> Thank you.

23:24>> Yep. Now I don't have to stop there.

23:27>> It would be unusual for a public

23:28building to not do that. Um ma'am

23:31>> you know what a simple question please

23:35to verify what I wrote down 38 union

23:40units have been turned over

23:43>> turned over and re

23:45>> since April 1st

23:45>> I didn't see the exact number but if

23:47Kathy remembers you said it April 1st to

23:50now.

23:51>> Yep. So there were 12 at the towers

23:54>> and there were 26 between the family

23:58units Elizabeth and Francis.

24:02>> That's all.

24:03>> And again, how many the Elizabeth

24:05Gardens?

24:06>> 36.

24:07>> Elizabeth Gardens is about 36. This is

24:10about

24:11>> 100. And then the tower is

24:13>> I was going to say 100 as well. That's

24:15my simple memory. And then beyond that,

24:17we also have um what we call family

24:20units and I call scattered units. And I

24:22mean that it's like various smaller

24:24one-off units, not part of a complex

24:26throughout the town. So all in we're

24:28like 250 or something 300.

24:30>> Um 176.

24:31>> No, 26 276 276.

24:35>> 250 to 300.

24:36>> And we've done 26. So I can't do that

24:38math, but what percent is that? I mean

24:40that's like that's they're they're busy.

24:42>> So that's a lot of turnover in a short

24:44period of time, admittedly. Yes,

24:46>> that is an incredibly short period of

24:48time

24:48>> and this is by any standard a by all

24:52standards considered a smaller regional

24:54housing authority compared to most other

24:56housing. I mean a couple hundred units

24:58doesn't even hit the bar graph of some

24:59of the bigger cities and that's what we

25:00have. And just by way of example, um,

25:03last year, so from April 1st, 2025 to

25:07May 31st, 26, they did 11

25:10>> 11 here, 11 in the family units and

25:13nine. So they did 20 all of last in 12

25:16months and they've done 26

25:18>> this year.

25:19>> 26 year since April 1st.

25:22>> So that doesn't count January to April.

25:24>> Well, no, because our our numbers start

25:27>> Oh, okay. So Okay. All right.

25:29So they did nine or what did I say 20

25:32all of the previous year and they've did

25:3526 this year.

25:36>> There's obviously a couple ways people

25:37exits housing authority. One of them is

25:39the very self-explanatory somber way

25:41which doesn't need to be addressed. But

25:43one of the big trends right now with

25:45huge push in um what is it ad what's it

25:50called? ADU.

25:51>> ADUs becoming more and more popular and

25:53more and more people doing ADUs is um

25:56people bringing seniors back into the

25:58home. So that probably accounts for some

26:00of it more than we ever have seen in the

26:01past would be my guess, but I haven't

26:03seen You don't get the specific data on

26:05that?

26:05>> No. Okay.

26:09>> Yes, ma'am.

26:10>> Yeah. Kelly had a meeting. It was uh

26:13regarding this is regarding the

26:15dumpsters on the property and they we

26:18were told they can't be put back due to

26:21whatever your business is. What's what's

26:23going on? And then I had brought up is

26:26and you were going to talk to Gary. I

26:28don't know if you've had time to do

26:29that.

26:30>> No.

26:30>> About you know how I want like in the

26:32winter if you can't put the dumpsters

26:34back some of these people are going to

26:36have a heck of a hike through a

26:38dumpster.

26:38>> The dump

26:39>> in snow and ice.

26:40>> The dumpsters should be back by

26:45>> we're just waiting for the contractors

26:46to finish

26:48>> and we have a meeting with the

26:49contractors tomorrow. So, I'd like to

26:52ask the dumpsters being dry cleaned or

26:55something. [laughter]

26:58>> The dumpsters have been moved. For

27:00instance, there was a dumpster right

27:02down here. It's way behind building

27:04number four. There was a dumpster over

27:07here and it's down in

27:09>> But when you say they're coming back,

27:10were they moved to do something to the

27:12area that they were occupying or are

27:13they being moved permanently?

27:14>> Yeah, they're not they're not finished.

27:16We had a few issues with the asphalt, so

27:19I don't want anything ground cover is

27:21what I wasn't even aware that they had

27:23moved. Okay.

27:24>> Yeah. So, I don't want anybody driving

27:25on. I want the trash trucks on them.

27:27>> Fair enough. Understood. Okay. So, it's

27:28a ground.

27:28>> I'm And that was explained and I

27:30understand that. I was just wondering if

27:32it was going to be through, you know,

27:35through the winter months if anything

27:37would be worked out for some of the

27:38residents here so they don't have to,

27:40say, for instance, if they live way down

27:42at the end of building two or building

27:44three, have to hike up here and then

27:46walk around the back to building four or

27:49have to come out and walk all the way

27:51down to the visitor parking lot because

27:53of the snow and ice. They're having a

27:55hard time already.

27:56>> Tomorrow I will have more.

27:59>> Okay. Thank you, Kelly. You're welcome.

28:01Um,

28:02>> I have something to say.

28:04>> Go ahead, sir.

28:04>> Yeah, a couple things. Uh, as far as the

28:06roofing goes, this is an opinion, and I

28:08know you guys have absolutely nothing to

28:10do with it. The fact that during the

28:13winter when there's probably snow on the

28:15ground, but to come in and rip the

28:17shingles off the roof is the craziest

28:20thing I have ever heard of.

28:21>> Agree.

28:22As far as a project here goes with the

28:25asphalt, a twoe project is taking a more

28:28than a month, maybe two at this point.

28:30In my opinion, another absolutely crazy

28:34thing,

28:35>> right? And he's nodding yourself. Yeah.

28:37I mean, the workers were here like, you

28:39know, maybe three hours a day,

28:41>> you know, whole thing.

28:42>> Um, I can go on and on about that.

28:45Anyhow, uh, short story. I was coming in

28:48the other day and a lady had some kind

28:52of a cart thing with five to seven I

28:55counted uh trash bags on it. So I of

28:59course stopped. She's trying to get her

29:00well self down at the end down there and

29:04helped her. Uh so I did take them. One

29:08of them was quite heavy and she has a

29:11broken wrist and she's shuffling along

29:13to take them down.

29:15So that speaks to what is happening as

29:18far as this project goes. At least I

29:20believe so.

29:21>> And this is what I would

29:22>> So I understand I understand I have a

29:24specific I can give you an interest

29:26right

29:27>> to the meeting I guess that you have

29:29>> why this lady had to do this is speaks

29:33to the whole project.

29:35>> I'm not sure what you mean but well you

29:38haven't you're not familiar with the

29:40project that we're having here.

29:42>> Apparently not.

29:44Apparently not.

29:46>> I think it's more we um Yes, of course

29:48we know about the project. We approved

29:50the project.

29:51>> She's doing that because the dumpsters

29:54he's just agreeing. Yeah, like what I

29:56just said. In other words, there was

29:58somebody who couldn't handle that.

30:01>> That's only one. And she's wheeling a

30:04car with a broken wrist looking for a

30:06dumpster.

30:08>> So, right now there's different parts

30:11>> of the paving.

30:13um going on and we cannot put the

30:16dumpsters back until the paving and the

30:20repairs are all

30:22>> Yeah. taken care of.

30:24>> Yep. Understood. I mean, it sounds like

30:26it's taking longer than it should.

30:27>> You're having a meeting and all that.

30:29>> So, I just want, you know,

30:31>> understood. But I can go with

30:34>> Not everything necessarily works

30:35perfectly the way it's supposed to all

30:36the time, but what I'm hearing is it's

30:37all being addressed and looked after.

30:40Um, understood

30:42>> those dumplings were taken out well

30:43before the work started. So,

30:46>> August 27th they were moved.

30:49>> Okay. So,

30:50>> Mhm.

30:51>> the whole schedule, the whole thing's a

30:53mess and you guys have nothing to do

30:54with it, but I would assume that we had

30:56something to say to the state or not.

31:00>> It's being said.

31:01>> Okay, that's good. Thank you.

31:04>> Is that it?

31:05>> Okay. If not, I would gladly take a

31:08motion to the chair.

31:10>> I hope we're not having the same roof

31:12company that did these

31:15>> over your head.

31:17>> I hope it's a different roofing company

31:19that did this roof a couple years ago

31:21because look, it's all falling down.

31:25>> I just want to understand this was a

31:27targeting Gary for the maintenance crew

31:30and do you know what I mean?

31:31>> Understood.

31:33It's it it's uh [clears throat] you

31:35don't have that camera on me, do you?

31:38>> Oh, I didn't know that.

31:39>> It's a open meeting if you're speaking.

31:41>> Okay.

31:42>> Both.

31:43>> Um

31:44so, as far as anything I said, okay,

31:47I'll go with um the roofs and the

31:50gutters being done at the same time. And

31:53also,

31:55we'll wait to hear from you, Kelly, to

31:56see what the update is on the dumpsters

31:59being back.

32:00>> Excellent. That's all we can do,

32:02>> right?

32:03>> Have a motion to adjurnn.

32:04>> But thanks for listening.

32:05>> Of course.

32:06>> Of course.

32:06>> I appreciate you.

32:10>> A motion to adjurnn.

32:11>> All right. I have a motion to adjurnn.

32:12Uh second. All in favor? Second. So

32:14moved. We are adjourned. Thank you.

32:16Thank you.