2026-10-13 - High School Building Committee

00:23Good afternoon and welcome to the uh

00:26October 13, 2026 meeting of the high

00:29school building committee. I'm calling

00:31the meeting to order. Uh the first item

00:34on our agenda is to review and act to

00:36approve the minutes of September 8th,

00:382026.

00:42>> I'm sorry.

00:42>> Oh, as a move approval.

00:44>> Oh.

00:45>> Uh second.

00:47>> Second.

00:48>> All those in favor shall signify by

00:50saying I.

00:51>> I. Motion carries. Uh the next item on

00:54the agenda is to review and act on bill

00:56schedule contract documents. Um we have

00:59three invoices for approval this

01:02afternoon. Um

01:04Mr. Hartley, do you mind walking us

01:06through those?

01:07>> Yes, absolutely. So the uh invoices for

01:10PMA uh represent our uh fee to date. Uh

01:14PMA is billing on a TNM basis. So those

01:18represent our hours. The SMMA bill um

01:21and we're going to go over this uh in a

01:23little bit more detail during the

01:24presentation. and um

01:27uh and allow everyone to provide some

01:30comments and feedback for the group. But

01:32uh the SMMA invoice represents a

01:33percentage build as if the project were

01:36moving forward with that November of

01:382027 vote. We are going to be discussing

01:40adjusting the timeline uh for certain

01:43reasons and we'll go over each of those

01:44in the presentation. Uh but the work in

01:46place uh that SMMA has done is really

01:49behind the scenes right now meeting with

01:50their consultants walking through the

01:52schools, visiting the schools uh uh

01:54beginning their existing uh uh existing

01:58conditions evaluation uh in those

02:00reports starting those reports. Um so

02:02really behind the scenes work uh that is

02:04represented in that invoice. Um SMMA is

02:06working on revised cash flow that will

02:08match up with what we discussed this

02:09evening. Uh but PMA is comfortable

02:11making that recommendation that the

02:13invoice today represents the work in

02:15place from the design team.

02:17>> Great. So can I have a motion on um to

02:20move approval of the three invoices and

02:22then we'll take the contract amendment

02:23separately. Um

02:26I have a motion.

02:27>> So moved.

02:28>> Second.

02:29>> All those in favor shall signify by

02:31saying I.

02:31>> I.

02:32>> Motion carries.

02:34>> Um and then could you speak to the

02:35contract amendment as well?

02:37Um so this would uh this is really a

02:41formality kind of paperwork item. Um but

02:43the in uh amendment number one for SMMA

02:46is representative of the um

02:49reimburseable costs. So costs that are

02:51not carried under a basic services

02:53contract. Some projects don't have them,

02:55some projects do have them. These are

02:56representative of the costs that the

02:58Shrewsbury project uh is likely to have.

03:01Uh these would again be build um with

03:03authorization from the PMA team um for

03:06from uh to SMMA uh after discussion with

03:09the district. Uh but it what it does is

03:11really allows us to uh not have multiple

03:14rounds of amendments for if we have one

03:16for one month, one for another month,

03:18one for another gets these uh billable

03:20in their contract with the town and also

03:22with the MSBA. Um so these are for

03:24geotechnical uh review, geotechnical

03:27engineering, hazmat site survey, traffic

03:29control um and then potentially a solar

03:32PV review uh consultant at both the uh

03:36feasibility so PSR and PDP and also at

03:39the schematic design phase. Uh so really

03:41taking them through uh these were

03:43carried as uh the numbers that were part

03:46of SMMA's original contract although and

03:48they were noted as the other

03:49reimburseables. Um, so really it's just

03:51a paperwork formality for both uh the

03:54MSBA and for the town.

03:56>> Does anyone have any questions?

03:59>> Okay. Can I have a motion then um uh to

04:03approve the contract amendment SMA

04:06amendment number one.

04:07>> So moved.

04:08>> Second.

04:09>> All those in favor shall signify by

04:11saying I.

04:11>> I.

04:12>> Motion carries. Uh the next item on the

04:15agenda is to hear reports, review, and

04:17act on the following matters. Um the

04:19first item is a design update.

04:22>> Pulling up the presentation now.

04:43All right. Uh so as I mentioned uh with

04:46some of the invoices um and with the

04:49amendment um we're currently in that

04:52module 3 feasibility study uh existing

04:54conditions educational plan and

04:56construction options. Um highlighting

04:59that uh you know SMMA has been working

05:03behind the scenes with the district on

05:05the existing conditions educational

05:07visioning and educational program. Um we

05:10are starting to work through space needs

05:12assessment. Um and once we have those

05:15kind of deliverables um you know they

05:18won't be handed out as part of anything

05:20but they'll be part of the PDP. That's

05:23when the development of the preliminary

05:25options and elimination of any

05:27non-preferred options uh would occur. Um

05:30again we're going to talk about the

05:31schedule timeline uh a few slides in and

05:34then kind of as we go through the

05:35process. Uh the well

05:37>> I just want to stop you there. The

05:39>> not showing anything. Yeah.

05:44Let's try one more time. It's showing up

05:47on my screen.

06:06>> Was it showing up at all before I

06:07started?

06:08>> No.

06:08>> Here you go.

06:13All right. Um so what I'd like to do

06:17tonight is just really highlight uh what

06:19that PDP entails. Uh again preliminary

06:22design program um what which starts with

06:24the ed uh existing conditions evaluation

06:26which we mentioned is ongoing and is is

06:29quite extensive uh with it being such a

06:31large building. Um, also in the

06:34background, SMMA is working on that

06:35educational visioning with the district,

06:36which was um, uh, it's going very well

06:39right now. Uh, we're looking to schedule

06:41meetings, and we'll hear about that

06:42tonight. Uh, we're also working on

06:45reviewing what the district provided as

06:47their draft of the educational program,

06:49which is going to be refined through the

06:50PDP process. So, the district did a

06:52great job over the summer of uh, really

06:55prepping that draft for SMMA to hit the

06:57ground running for this fall. Um, so

06:59moving right forward with that. Um

07:02further uh in the PDP we'll be looking

07:04at the space needs. We'll be working uh

07:06with the MSBA space summary template and

07:08that'll be reviewed uh and re uh

07:11iterated upon uh throughout the PDP and

07:14throughout the PSR. Um and then we'll be

07:16developing those preliminary options and

07:18and eliminating any non-preferred

07:20options. Again, the MSBA requires us to

07:22carry base repair uh an addition

07:24renovation option and a new construction

07:26option through the PSR. So through two

07:29submissions with the MSBA um but we can

07:31eliminate some non-preferred options um

07:34as they arise and as they're discussed.

07:36But right now um just for everyone in

07:38the public to know there is no uh

07:41defined scope of the project. We know

07:43that we are looking at a lot of options.

07:45We know that we are looking at um a big

07:48decision for the town whether that's uh

07:50um uh evaluating the new construction

07:53option, evaluating the base repair

07:54option, but really defining what a an

07:57addition renovation project would look

08:00like. So, we are very high level right

08:02now. We're defining that educational

08:03program which is going to lead to what

08:05that design looks like. Um and really

08:08just want to highlight that for the

08:09public. No project set yet. PDP

08:12highlights what options could produce a

08:14result that can deliver that educational

08:17program uh that's built through the

08:19educational visioning and the existing

08:20conditions analysis.

08:23>> Uh with that, I'll turn it over to the

08:24SMMA team to

08:27>> Yep. Good to see everybody again. Um so

08:30jumping into what we have done uh and

08:33where we're at in terms of the visioning

08:35and the programming. Um we are we have

08:38created a a visioning plan with our um

08:42visioning consultant Mike Pillllo. Um so

08:45that has been reviewed with the

08:47educational leadership group. Um so we

08:49have a a plan now for what each of these

08:51sessions um is going to look like and

08:54the topics of discussion at each. Um so

08:56where we're at now is we're in the phase

08:58one where we've scheduled the first

09:00several of these visioning sessions. Um

09:03one actually being on Thursday this

09:05week. Um we'll talk about goals and

09:07priority mapping with this leadership

09:09group. Uh and then we're also going to

09:11be doing some tours of um some high

09:14schools around school tours with that

09:16group as well on Friday this week. Um

09:19and then on the 26th of October, we have

09:22a third session um where we'll actually

09:24be step uh shadowing some students. So

09:27that group will also um be following a

09:31student as they go throughout their

09:32their school day so we can um really get

09:35an understanding of you know what it's

09:37like to be a student. And um so those

09:40three sessions have been um scheduled.

09:43Then we'll also in the meantime work on

09:45scheduling these other visioning

09:47sessions. Um so we have uh right now

09:50five other different sessions that we

09:52need to be scheduled. Some of them can

09:53overlap on the same day. So, we're

09:55hoping to to kind of make it very more

09:57convenient for um for teachers and for

10:00this leadership group. So, that's where

10:02we're at um with the visioning and the

10:04programming. Um for visioning,

10:07programming um is also another set of

10:10meetings that need to be scheduled with

10:11all of the um the educators and staff.

10:14Um so, just so you can see the the

10:17preliminary list that we've created as

10:18to all the different groups that we need

10:21to meet with. Um, so we'll work with the

10:25staff schedule. Um, so that we're we

10:27kind of will hunker down in the school

10:30for a day, probably a series of four or

10:32five days. Um, and then rotate and meet

10:34with each of these these groups around

10:36their schedules. So that will also be

10:39happening. Um, if you want to flip to

10:41the next slide, we can just talk about

10:42the schedule. So, um, if you recall from

10:46last time with the the previous

10:48schedule, we were really trying to get

10:50all of this visioning and programming

10:51done through the end of October. Um, and

10:55there was a lot of I mean, it it would

10:57be a lot to get that all in, especially

10:59just the timing of how the project um,

11:02was approved, you know, at the beginning

11:04of the school year and teachers, staff,

11:07everyone's still trying to to, you know,

11:09focus on getting the school year

11:11started. Um, so by extending out the

11:13visioning and the programming a little

11:15bit, it gives us more time to be able to

11:17ga gather all the information, but also

11:19for everybody to digest the information

11:21and make sure that we're really setting

11:23the groundwork for the project up um

11:26successfully. So this is the new

11:28proposed timeline for the visioning and

11:30the programming. Um the the solid dots

11:34are the one the meetings that we have

11:35scheduled and have held already. Um the

11:38other ones are ones that need to be

11:39scheduled, but you can see in the green

11:41bar the visioning will go um right now

11:44we're planning through December and then

11:46we'll try to get all of the programming

11:49sessions um at the school through the

11:51end of November, December, realizing

11:54that there are holidays in there as

11:56well. So um just making sure we're

11:58allowing enough time there. Um so that's

12:01the preliminary plan. Of course, things

12:03could fluctuate if the if this does

12:06bleed into January. We don't ideally

12:08want to do that, but that's um you know,

12:10we can we can accommodate uh what we

12:13need to um because January, February is

12:15really when we want to start to develop

12:17the options and make sure we have enough

12:19time for that.

12:21So, existing conditions, what we've

12:23completed to date, um, we have and

12:27there's been a lot of activity on site

12:28that you've probably seen people on

12:31site, people in the building. Um,

12:33everyone has been I just want to make

12:34sure everyone's clear. Everyone's been

12:36quarried through the district and

12:37they're all approved before we allow

12:39anyone on site. So, just want to make

12:41that clear. Um but we have done some

12:43site survey work which is surveying the

12:46the site with the topography and um and

12:49all the different site elements. So that

12:51has happened. We've also collected some

12:53traffic data um as well as some

12:56environmental noise survey. So you may

12:58have seen some equipment some stuff on

13:00the road that's just tracking some data

13:03for us. Um we also have had our team and

13:06our consultants, our code consultants,

13:07our um security designers, um engineers

13:12all walking through and doing our

13:13analysis and surveys of the building. Um

13:16and then we do still have some other um

13:19consultant scheduling that's going to

13:20happen over the next month or so um with

13:23our hazmat team. We'll have to walk

13:25through the building that's required and

13:27there may be some testing that has to

13:29happen on some materials. Um, we'll have

13:32our other food service, theater,

13:34specialty consultants that will be part

13:36of the programming that will want to do

13:37their site investigations. Um, and then

13:40a little bit more of a traffic piece

13:42that we want to just really hone in on

13:44what the issues are with pickup and drop

13:46off and make sure we understand that.

13:50>> All right. Um, thank you, Jen. Um so now

13:54as I mentioned we're going to talk about

13:56um the timeline uh and really the

13:58adjusted and and the suggestion and

14:01hopefully uh agreement and discussion

14:02that this committee will have uh on the

14:05timeline and schedule for the project.

14:07Um so when PMA was brought on board we

14:11know that there was a discussion about

14:13uh when the local funding authorization

14:15would happen and really when PMA builds

14:17a schedule we build it back from that

14:19local funding authorization. uh PMA's

14:22goal is to always move as efficiently

14:23through the MSBA's process as possible.

14:26Um the one uh note to that is we need to

14:29make sure that the project is successful

14:31first. Um, so knowing that uh what we've

14:35looked at and knowing that there was

14:36always uh the discussion and

14:38considerations for moving to that

14:40November of 2028 uh ballot vote, um PMA

14:44did some historical research uh for the

14:47the town um found for your special

14:51elections uh anywhere from 17 to 36%

14:55voter turnout on a midterm or state

14:58ballot uh presidential ballot. We're

15:00looking closer to 66 to 78% voter

15:03turnout for the town of Shersbury. A

15:05much better representation of the town.

15:07Um it just so happens that there were

15:09also two successful projects put through

15:11on that timeline. Um really the benefits

15:15you get a higher voter turnout. There's

15:17less election costs um that are incurred

15:19by the town. It's one less trip to the

15:21polls for anyone voting in town. Um and

15:25what this schedule really allows for is

15:27that um a lot more input from community

15:31but also from the the district itself.

15:33Um a couple things to note here. Uh the

15:36select board approval of the ballot

15:38question is required. Uh we did some

15:40digging here. Uh note that uh this would

15:42be required to go to the state elections

15:44division on or before August 2nd of

15:472028. Uh just so everyone knows. I know

15:49that doesn't seem like it's close, but

15:52we want to keep that in mind for select

15:54board meetings and as they're moving

15:55through summer. Obviously, summer is a

15:56slower time. Um, and then the

15:59recommendation that a special town

16:00meeting should occur before that

16:02November 7th ballot, uh, which would be

16:04November 7th of 2028, uh, for the

16:06presidential election. Um, I believe

16:09that's standard practice for the town to

16:12have the special town meeting prior to

16:14the ballot. Uh but again, two-step

16:16process for everyone that's following

16:18along. Um and then below you see the

16:20historical reference points that we

16:22gathered that information from. Um

16:25[clears throat]

16:26excuse me. Uh so moving forward, PMA has

16:28mapped out what the preliminary design

16:31program um in a prima vera uh schedule

16:35would look like. I know that's

16:36incredibly difficult for people to read.

16:39So we also have some other slides that

16:41show uh really what changes on the um

16:46PDP submission. Uh the PDP changes, the

16:48PSR changes and the SD date changes. Um

16:51so for key upcoming dates, we have a

16:53November 10th um select board uh school

16:56building committee meeting. We have a

16:57December 8th school building committee

16:59meeting, January 12th, February 9th, and

17:02then the March 9th, 2027 school building

17:05committee, which which would be the

17:07approval and um submission of the PDP.

17:10So, just focusing on the PDP phase and

17:12the key upcoming dates here and noting

17:14that the 11:24 additional meeting that

17:16we were looking to schedule um would not

17:19be necessary because we'd have a uh a

17:21little bit more breathing room in the

17:23timeline uh for that upcoming.

17:26What that looks like overall is a shift

17:29on the feasibility week uh feasibility

17:32phase out to 42 weeks. Uh we had

17:34mentioned that um we would potentially

17:36look at um continuing the work uh in

17:40between uh feasibility and schematic. We

17:43no longer need to take that risk because

17:46we have built in those uh those breaks

17:48in the timeline um to align with the

17:50MSPA board dates. We'll be looking at a

17:53schematic design phase of about 34

17:55weeks. um targeting an April 20th, 2028

17:59submission. Um that information, these

18:02are all very very um planned out where

18:05the MSBA's board dates are meeting. Um

18:08we'd be looking for an MSBA uh project

18:10scope and budget board meeting approval

18:12um at on 6 uh 28 2028 and then looking

18:17at that local funding authorization in

18:19the fall of 2028.

18:21kind of dialing in what that looks like

18:24on timelines is here for 2027 and 2028.

18:28I just want to note everything for DD

18:31through completion of the project is

18:32italicized right now. We flush that out

18:34as we move through the schematic design.

18:36Once a project uh course is selected uh

18:39and ultim uh preferred solution is

18:41selected. We will flush out whether

18:43that's a two, three, three and a half

18:45year construction timeline, what the

18:48detailed design looks like and what

18:50ultimately closing out a project would

18:51look like during the PSR and the uh SD

18:54phase. Um but PMA has met with um the

18:59district, PMA has met with um SMMA and

19:03all three of us had met together and

19:05reviewed this timeline. Feel very

19:07comfortable that these uh these

19:09timelines can be met. Uh we're very

19:11happy bringing this to you because we

19:13think it allows for a little bit of

19:14breathing room, a little bit of runway

19:16uh for both the design team, the

19:19district, but also the town to ensure

19:21that the town's people are fully

19:22informed of the project to ensure that

19:24they have the right information that

19:26they need to make an informed decision

19:28uh when the time comes. Um we don't want

19:31to rush through the process and we were

19:33starting to feel that we potentially may

19:36be pushing to the pushing to the brink.

19:38We know we could have hit those dates.

19:40Um but um not something we want to do

19:42with a project of this scope and size

19:44being that this is going to be the

19:45largest building undertaken uh in

19:47Shrewsbury uh since the high school was

19:49done. Um so we wanted to open it up for

19:54questions uh give it back to the chair

19:56to discuss anything about the timeline

19:58that anyone has questions about,

20:00concerns about or if anyone feels that

20:02this path is not the recommended path

20:04that we should be looking at. Um and if

20:07uh acceptable that the committee chooses

20:09to move uh and accept the the new

20:12proposed schedule.

20:13>> Great. Thank you.

20:15>> Anyone?

20:17>> Um so [clears throat] I I I do like this

20:20overall timeline that you've laid out um

20:24kind of pushing us back a year. Could

20:26you go back two slides though?

20:27>> Absolutely. Key dates.

20:29>> Key dates. So, um [clears throat]

20:32I know we're way too early to talk about

20:35or speculate on any cost estimates and

20:38figures, but the one thing I'm concerned

20:40about with the schedule was

20:42maybe it's just how you have it up on

20:44the slide, but uh you know, when would

20:46we actually see some of the things

20:48associated with the February 9th and the

20:51March 9th meetings? Um, I guess I'm a

20:54little worried

20:56um about the committee as a group seeing

20:59things for the first time and voting on

21:01them in the same evening. So maybe we

21:03need to have more meetings twice a month

21:05or something, but

21:07>> I would be hesitant, you know, to really

21:09hear from you all the first time in

21:11detail and vote the same.

21:14>> Yeah, absolutely. Um so we based this on

21:19uh past projects that we've looked at

21:21>> um and what the PDP costs

21:24analysis are are rough order of

21:27magnitude costs. So they are not um

21:29level three cost estimated projects.

21:32They are square footages based on the

21:34existing conditions analysis. They are

21:37uh square footages for new construction

21:39or what needs to be renovated based on

21:41that based on the educational program.

21:43So what the January 12th, February 9th

21:46and ultimately the March 9th dates are

21:49to really those three of them to discuss

21:51are what project deliveries. So what

21:55forms of a project could deliver the

21:57educational program based on the

21:59existing conditions analysis and what

22:01we're going to work with the SMMA team

22:04and uh our we will discuss with cost

22:06estimators what we should be looking to

22:08carry for cost per square foot. Um, but

22:11what that's going to be is looking to

22:13compare all of those options on an

22:16applesto apples basis. Not the addition

22:20renovation without this, the new

22:22construction without this. We want to

22:23look what the most cost-effective

22:26solution for the town of Shrewsbury and

22:28the uh school district of Shrewsbury is

22:30going to be. Whether that is an ad rena,

22:32a ren straight renovation, a new

22:34construction option. Um, I think it's

22:36it's pretty clear right now. We know

22:38that um the new construction option is

22:41going to be something that is going to

22:44be very expensive.

22:46>> Uh but what we really need to prove out

22:49is that a base code repair uh is also

22:52going to be something that's really not

22:53feasible right now. We know that the

22:54school is so undersized. Um but you know

22:58that building has been through 23 years,

23:0124 years um since it opened. Um the

23:04building code has changed four four

23:07times, three times.

23:08>> Um the stretch energy code has changed.

23:11So we're going to be looking at whether

23:13or not that building needs new

23:14insulation with a new roof. Um what that

23:16looks like for the mechanical units are

23:18on it. Uh what that looks like for the

23:20windows, what that looks like for the

23:21insulation in the walls, the RV value

23:23that needs to be met uh to meet that

23:25stretch energy code. Um but it's also

23:27going to be looking at a costbenefit

23:29analysis of whether or not uh a new

23:31mechanical system needs to go in. uh and

23:34whether or not that proves out that

23:36that's part of uh the addition

23:37renovation. Um but if that mechanical

23:40system can meet what needs to be met for

23:42the stretch energy code. So there's

23:43going to be a quite a long discussion

23:45about those options. Um but there's not

23:49going to be a um it's a feedback

23:53process. It's not an iterative process

23:55whereas a PSR might be of what has to be

23:59included because anything that we're

24:01discussing is going to be what the

24:03project team based on feedback from the

24:06district those programming meetings the

24:07existing conditions analysis what needs

24:10to be in the project and we're going to

24:11have a very high level view of what

24:13those project cost um uh cost ranges

24:18would be. Jen Brian please feel free to

24:21add in. I know I'm talking a lot, but if

24:22if I'm missing anything on what those

24:24cost, I feel confident that January,

24:27February, and March are going to be

24:28enough for this group to ask questions.

24:31And I think something that might be

24:32beneficial is, you know, we're meeting

24:34on Tuesdays. If we can get this

24:36presentation to you guys on a Friday for

24:38digestion is to allow for some questions

24:40uh in advance of the meeting or so that

24:42you guys can have questions ready for

24:44the group. If you want to shoot them

24:45over, that's fine. Um but I do feel

24:47confident that January, February, March

24:50um can meet those deliverables for this

24:53committee. Um if there's is there

24:56concern about numbers in general or just

24:59decision- making and because we're not

25:01narrowing any options at that point in

25:02time unless the committee feels it's

25:04necessary. We'll still have every option

25:06on the table. Um so just just want to

25:09hear a little bit more about the

25:11concern.

25:12>> My perspective was decision- making.

25:13Yep. I know the numbers are very

25:16preliminary at that time, but as what

25:17you said there at the end, if it's truly

25:21>> option analysis and we're not selling,

25:23>> but if if January, February, and March

25:25build upon each other and it's, you

25:28know, it's iterative between those three

25:30meetings, then that makes me feel more

25:32comfortable versus them being

25:34>> Yeah.

25:35>> segmented and something really new

25:37coming up on March 9th, the night that

25:38we're expected to vote. We don't foresee

25:41something new coming up on March 9th

25:43unless and and unless the existing

25:46conditions analysis will be done, the

25:48programming will be done. So as long as

25:49we hit those timelines in general or

25:52those timelines that we have specified,

25:54we'll be good to build those options for

25:56this time.

25:56>> Yeah. And I think we can pivot. I think

25:58we can start to show some of these

26:00preliminary options in the January

26:02meeting. So that and then we'll build on

26:04top of that like you said. And I think

26:06at this point if if we need to if we

26:09find that in February, you know, between

26:12the February and March meeting, there

26:13does need to be another meeting because

26:14there's a lot of discussion, you know,

26:16where we could

26:17>> add another a meeting in there.

26:19>> Yeah.

26:20>> Right.

26:20>> So if at any point the committee feels

26:22like we want to add a meeting for more

26:24discussion, I think we can absolutely

26:26keep that uh through January and

26:28February in advance of that March date.

26:31Um, can I ask when when is the meeting

26:34with the MSBA after March 9th that we're

26:36we're trying to hit

26:38>> the PDP submission is u March 24th. So

26:41actually even if we wanted to do a

26:44meeting right in advance of before we

26:46submit the PDP then um we could do it

26:49>> the 16th.

26:50>> Yeah.

26:50>> Yeah.

26:51>> So the 24th of March um 2027.

26:56>> Right.

26:57When would be the next meeting if we

26:59didn't weren't able to hit that March

27:00meeting? Would that throw everything

27:02really off?

27:03>> You push two months.

27:04>> Two months.

27:05>> Okay.

27:05>> So, we wouldn't be able to hit the next

27:07round of

27:09that.

27:14>> Anyone else have any comments or

27:16questions regarding the proposed

27:18schedule?

27:19>> Sure. Just for from the high school

27:20perspective and meeting with our staff,

27:21we did originally kickoff on the 17th

27:23September, which was great. I think the

27:25people walked away feeling that was

27:27really accelerated and really fast. Um,

27:29so for us, we had a leadership team

27:31meeting today. Basically, they felt a

27:33little bit more comfortable uh when

27:34we've had a conversation about this

27:36potentially lengthening the runway to

27:39allow for us to do some really uh good

27:41work with you to try and share what we

27:44experience and can share in terms of

27:46just boots on the ground. So, uh, for us

27:48it feels a little bit certainly feels

27:50better. There's a lot of angst after

27:51that first meeting on September. a lot

27:53of questions like this is moving really

27:54fast and we just started school like how

27:56are we going to get this done? So

27:57>> certainly

27:58>> the longer runway feels better for us I

28:00think and has sort of tempered some of

28:02the anxiety around that.

28:03>> Absolutely.

28:05>> Dr.

28:06>> I think in addition um to Mr. Bizillo's

28:09perspective from the high school is also

28:11thinking about engaging our community

28:13deeply or designing the high school for

28:15the future. This is the the building

28:17that we want to stand the testament of

28:19time and it's important that we include

28:21community voices. Um, and I know that we

28:24opened a application to be part of the

28:26visioning and that was really important.

28:28Um, and we've gotten over 50 submissions

28:30to that. So, we we'll have an

28:32opportunity to engage the community at

28:34large um, in a different way by having

28:36this timeline. And so, we appreciate you

28:39listening to feedback and really coming

28:41back to the group to share what what

28:43seems like it could be a a better option

28:45for us.

28:49>> Anyone else?

28:52Do we need to take a motion or to move

28:54the timeline?

28:56>> I think that

28:56>> Yeah, I think that would be very helpful

28:58and we'll let the MSBA know.

29:00>> Okay, great. So, um may I have a motion

29:03to um move the timeline um so that the

29:09um the the vote would take place in

29:12November of 2028.

29:14>> So moved.

29:15>> Second.

29:16>> All those in favor shall signify by

29:17saying I.

29:18>> I. Motion carries. Thank you.

29:21[clears throat]

29:22>> So, that is everything that the PMA and

29:25I believe the SMMA team had. Um, we are

29:29I I know it doesn't seem like a lot's

29:30happening, but a lot's happening in the

29:32background. Um, we're going to be very

29:34busy this week. We have a meeting

29:35tomorrow and and then the day on Friday.

29:37I know the PMA and SMA team are looking

29:39forward to that. So, and the leadership

29:41team, I think, is looking forward to

29:42that. Um, but unless anyone else I'll

29:45turn it back to the chair for any

29:47questions. Anyone [clears throat] have

29:49anything further?

29:51>> I think the next item on our agenda then

29:53is uh correspondence. I don't believe

29:55there was any uh this month. And then uh

29:58the next item on the agenda is setting a

30:01date for our next meeting which I

30:02believe will be November 10th or Yes.

30:05>> Yep. We had we have um just so everyone

30:08can put them in the calendars, the SBC

30:10meetings that are firmed up are November

30:1210th, December 8th, January 12th,

30:16February 9th, and March 9th with the

30:20option for adding one sometime in the

30:23February and March timeline um if if the

30:26committee feels it's it's necessary.

30:29>> Um and then the topics of those meetings

30:32are are carried here. So if anyone wants

30:34to see what's upcoming at the meeting,

30:36we'll obviously have an agenda out. Um

30:38but really these are the highle topics

30:39that we'll be discussing at those

30:40meetings and the milestones that are

30:42part of that and what'll be discussed.

30:44>> Great.

30:47Um if there's no further business, then

30:49I'll take a motion to adjurnn.

30:51>> So moved.

30:53>> Second. All those in favor shall signify

30:55by saying I. I. Thank you and good

30:57night.