2026-09-08 - Housing Authority

00:05[music] Good evening and welcome to the

00:06Arub Housing Authority meeting of

00:09September 8th. We'll start with a pledge

00:11of allegiance.

00:15I

00:16>> pledge allegiance to the flag of the

00:18United States of America and to the

00:20republic for which it stands, one nation

00:24under God, indivisible, with liberty and

00:27justice for all.

00:32>> [clears throat]

00:32>> Is there any public comment? Anyone here

00:34would like to make a comment? Also, is

00:36there anybody here videotaping?

00:39I'm hearing none.

00:40>> So, anybody would like to speak during

00:42the public comment?

00:43>> I I would like this is I I apologize for

00:46not getting this on the agenda. And this

00:48is something um

00:50>> Could we hold that until new business,

00:51Paula?

00:52>> Oh, yes. I'm sorry. Yes, that is fine.

00:54Okay.

00:56>> Board member items. We can we can do it

00:58under either. All right. Could you say

01:00your name, please?

01:01>> Yes. I'm Terry Morani from U Pakog

01:04Village.

01:06Although you all know me and

01:09um it's not easy to come here

01:14and talk all the time. It's rather

01:16frustrating, especially when the um the

01:21issues never seem to get resolved

01:24and we don't get to know what the

01:27board's thoughts are on our issues that

01:32as we speak of them.

01:35Uh hopefully that will change in the

01:37future. we can have a better rapport

01:40rapport with everybody and just be

01:44adults and do what needs to be done.

01:47>> So, uh, the tenants of PD, they're still

01:49asking for a meeting to be held there.

01:52Last year, Ms. Brennan stated the state

01:54wanted her to have a meeting there and

01:56she thought October would be a good

01:58time. Well, October came and went, but

02:02she hasn't talked about it since.

02:04According to Evelyn in Boston, this

02:07board can have a meeting there with or

02:10without Miss Brennan.

02:12Next is Ammani's denial of being the

02:15state side tenant rep. I was there when

02:18the selectman gave her the position.

02:20They made it quite clear what the

02:22position would entail. I went to the

02:25meeting after she was given the job to

02:27congratulate her. I asked if I could

02:29help and post her name and phone number

02:32at PB. She said yes. A week later, Miss

02:36Brennan had the post taken down

02:41and there's nothing up there. There's

02:43been nothing up there for a tenant rep.

02:47Um, Miss Brennan sought [clears throat]

02:49money out and told her she would be good

02:51for that appointment.

02:53My opinion now is that Miss Brennan

02:56wanted to keep Ammani under her thumb.

02:58Rosie, the federal tenant rep, told

03:01tenants, "Miss Brennan won't listen to

03:03me." Ammani, you have been played. She

03:07just wanted a somebody to be She wants

03:11to be the puppet master. You were

03:13played. Last thing on my list is the

03:16Stateside community room. Ms. Brennan

03:19used to tell tenants it was one of our

03:21perks. There's a full kitchen we could

03:24use, but not to cook. However, the

03:26refrigerator kept our drinks cold and we

03:29could heat things up if needed if we had

03:32a party or a shower or whatever we had

03:34over there. We could use the oven to

03:36bring in cooked food and keep it warm.

03:40Um, we had a TV, books, puzzles.

03:44We could relax while doing our laundry

03:47and get out of the heat in the summer. A

03:49tenant ruined it for us by allowing her

03:52drunk relative to sleep in there.

03:55That needless infraction got us all

03:58locked out. No one was allowed in

04:00anymore. About a year later, CO hit and

04:04the lockdown continued. Ms. Brennan had

04:06the kitchen blocked in. TV was removed.

04:10No books and puzzles left, etc. It's all

04:13gone. It's just an empty space with long

04:17tables.

04:18Um, [clears throat]

04:20the tenants

04:23once things settled down with CO the

04:25tenants made phone calls to Boston to

04:28see if we could get her to unlock that

04:31the community room.

04:33Well, the locks got changed so that we

04:36could get in them

04:38if your if your apartment key allows you

04:40to. There is a gentleman up there that I

04:43just spoke to yesterday. His key will

04:46not let him in any door of the community

04:48room. None of them. We used to be able

04:51to go in the laundry room, start our

04:53wash, walk right into the community

04:56room,

04:58sit down, you know, relax, bring a book,

05:00whatever, talk to whoever might be in

05:03there,

05:05transfer your wash to the dryer,

05:09and, you know, fold the clothes in

05:11there. We weren't bothering anybody. It

05:14was just a relaxing room that we felt we

05:16could use. But now it's not ours. The

05:20kitchen has been blocked off totally.

05:24The doors are extremely heavy. If you

05:27have to go to the bathroom, you have to

05:29walk out of the laundry room, go

05:32outside, use your key, and get in one of

05:35the other doors.

05:37It seems totally ridiculous to me that

05:42the entire village needs to be punished

05:44for one tenants's

05:47discretion and and that one tenant has

05:50made many discretions.

05:53>> So we don't we just don't feel that we

05:56should be

05:58have to pay the price for that one

06:00person because Miss Brennan knows

06:02exactly who it is. Um, [snorts]

06:06we want we want our community room back.

06:09We want the door from the laundry room

06:11unlocked. We want the kitchen, the TV,

06:15all of it back so that tenants can enjoy

06:20the room right now. There's nothing in

06:24there to make it feel comfortable or

06:27warm. There's just nothing in there. I

06:30did contact

06:32um [snorts]

06:34housing Betty last year. We were having

06:37a lot of transformers blowing and we

06:41would lose power. Sometimes it would be

06:44at night. Sometimes it was in the summer

06:46when it was very hot, but the generator

06:48would keep going in the community room.

06:51I asked if she could please open those

06:54doors so we could get some of the

06:56elderly people with walkers and

06:59wheelchairs out of their apartment,

07:01especially at night if they're going to

07:02have to sit there in the dark. That's

07:05it's not inviting. It's, you know, it's

07:07a scary thing. um they have their oxygen

07:11and we just wanted it to be open so we

07:14could help some of our neighbors get in

07:17there and feel comfortable during these

07:20blackouts.

07:22Betty told me she would get back to me

07:23and she sent me a letter saying

07:25absolutely not. It's closed. It's going

07:27to stay closed. So, it's just

07:33everything up there seems to be a battle

07:35with this office

07:38and if you speak up too much then you're

07:41going to be black balled as I have been

07:43for over six years

07:47you know they're older people they don't

07:51have a lot of wants and needs other than

07:54peace and feeling safe in your

07:57surroundings and having somebody to talk

08:00to, feeling like you're being listened

08:02to.

08:04It's very frustrating

08:08to try and work with an office

08:11that is just

08:14so blunt and so

08:17the tone we get sometimes we get hung up

08:20on, we get yelled at. Well, that's not

08:23happening. Nope, not today.

08:26stop calling us. You know, it just gets

08:28old. And it's I'm hoping this board

08:33can help make a difference

08:36and take care of some of this

08:39hatefulness and chaos

08:42that Miss Brennan seems to thrive on

08:44because we deserve better. You know,

08:47we've got a few people that are whatever

08:50and you're going to find that. I don't

08:51care where you go.

08:53>> But most of our tenants are good people.

08:56There's no wild parties going on up

08:59there. They're just good people looking

09:02to live quietly.

09:05Thank you for listening.

09:06>> Thank you.

09:07>> Thank you.

09:12>> Thank you.

09:15>> Approval of the minutes of August 4th.

09:19I make a motion that we approve these

09:21minutes.

09:21>> Wendy Loren.

09:23>> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Come right up.

09:26>> Come right up. You can come sit at the

09:27table if you'd like.

09:29>> And I came in late. [laughter]

09:32>> I'm sorry. I have to read this. I

09:34appalled. And what's your name, please?

09:36My name is Moren Ant Kovia.

09:38>> Ant Kovia. Thank you.

09:42>> So, good evening everybody. I'm so

09:44sorry.

09:46>> My name is Moren Koviaak like I just

09:49stated and I live at 10 Pakawa Village.

09:53I'm a fairly new resident and I want to

09:56compliment and say that you have a great

09:58crew of people working here especially

10:00Frank and as I am in contact with them

10:04the most. I am here tonight and was

10:06wondering if there are any plans to

10:09place

10:11in place already to repaint the lines

10:14for the parking spaces in our parking

10:17lot. The current markings have faded,

10:20some more than others, and can be very

10:23difficult to see, especially at night

10:26and in the rain and the snow. This makes

10:29it difficult to pull into the spaces

10:32parallel with equal margins on both

10:35sides so as not to impinge on the

10:38adjacent space.

10:40Clear,

10:42fresh paint would improve visibility and

10:46ease for all of the vehicles who rely on

10:48them. We talked about funding and grants

10:52at this meeting last month. I was

10:55wondering if there could be money within

10:58that venue for the repainting of the

11:00lines if it's not already scheduled in.

11:05If there is no available funding, I

11:08would like to know if I can have

11:10permission to do six spray point circles

11:14on the faded lines of my handicapped

11:17parking space to help guide me in

11:21>> to my space as a reasonable

11:24accommodation.

11:26Um, thank you for your time and

11:28consideration. As I'm not familiar with

11:31this whole process, I would like to know

11:34how this issue that I bring before you

11:36tonight will be addressed and within

11:39what reasonable time frame.

11:42>> Well, we'll have to speak with uh Miss

11:45Brennan about that during the we'll uh

11:48during the executive director reports.

11:50We can ask we'll ask questions then and

11:52then hopefully we'll have some kind of

11:54an answer for you.

11:55>> Okay.

11:55>> Okay.

11:56>> Awesome. Okay. So, if it's not a

11:58repainting of the whole everything, um,

12:01please do understand that I'm asking to

12:03just buy my own paint and just put nice

12:06little neat circles, three on each side,

12:09just as a guide.

12:10>> You in Yeah. Um, I believe that um we've

12:15talked about what types of things are

12:17scheduled and we can we'll find out more

12:19about that as the meeting progresses.

12:21Okay.

12:21>> Okay. Thank you very much for to this.

12:24>> You're able to stay, Mari, the rest of

12:26the meeting? I will. Yes. Thank you.

12:28>> Any other public comments?

12:31>> All right. Move on to the meeting

12:34minutes. Take a motion.

12:36>> I'll make a motion again that we accept

12:38the uh minutes for the August. Is there

12:42a second?

12:42>> A second. U I'd like to make a couple of

12:46corrections and uh

12:49notes on the

12:51um when we're talking

12:54within the minutes

12:56uh

12:58most people here know me, but if

13:00anybody's reading these minutes that

13:01doesn't know anybody here,

13:04>> I don't think it's appropriate that it's

13:05Wendy. Um, it should be uh Miss

13:08Steinhillber or the chairman or I did go

13:12back and look at a lot of the other

13:13minute meeting minutes and it was always

13:16after a discussion. Now it's Wendy and I

13:19and who is I? Well, that's Lori because

13:21she's the one who wrote them. But it

13:22should be Miss Brennan.

13:24>> Um, and the original bylaws have not

13:27been found. Uh, and a new draft was

13:29provided at the Zoom at the um previous

13:32meeting and the Zoom meeting that she

13:34attended. Um, also under uh

13:39the time sheets, Wendy asked for time

13:41sheets, fuel logs, it should be the

13:43board asked for and the general ledger

13:46at every meeting. She who is she uh also

13:50went to the Massaro website and then I

13:53who is I so I'd like to see those things

13:56corrected before we um

14:00>> approve these minutes the way they are.

14:03Also under future project suggestion,

14:05Wendy suggested the board should be the

14:07board look into projects to add to the

14:09five-year plan for finding grants or

14:11access controls to buildings when

14:13windows and exterior. Um,

14:17and also uh the board would like a list

14:19of ways we could reuse the reserves. I'm

14:21not the only one here. I guess it's my

14:24board.

14:26>> So please uh going forward on the

14:28minutes that that should be reflected.

14:31Um, I'll leave these corrections with

14:34you, Lori, so that you can uh

14:38all those in favor. I

14:42>> um the report of officers, we do have

14:46Rose's um letter of resignation

14:51and I was just wondering is there

14:53something um that we can do send her

14:56followers or uh all sign a card thanking

15:00her for her uh participation on this

15:02board. And um um I was I'm not sure that

15:06I understood the last line. Um, it's a

15:11shame that with the changes, no one has

15:13sat with us and listened to our side of

15:15the story. I'm not sure what that means.

15:17Do you have any insight in that? No.

15:20>> Did Did anything get done for Rose or uh

15:23>> We haven't done anything yet, but we

15:25will be sending her something from the

15:27housing authority.

15:28>> Okay. Well, maybe we could all sign a

15:29card um and get that to her. That would

15:33be great. If we could sign it at the

15:34next meeting, that would be great.

15:36>> Um, do the chair just have a question on

15:37her letter?

15:38>> Yeah. I'm I'm sure it got to the right

15:40place, but it's addressed to Deb Grimmo.

15:42Okay. So, she did that herself.

15:45>> I have I did forward it to Todd Fraine.

15:48Um

15:48>> Okay.

15:49>> And uh so the other part of this is um

15:52has a notice been put up in the federal

15:54housing. It hasn't been put up yet

15:57because I wanted the board to be aware

15:59of the resignation first. Rosie filled

16:04two positions. She was actually elected

16:07by the town

16:09[snorts] and she also served as the

16:11federal tenant board member because she

16:14was the

16:14>> federal tenant housing.

16:17>> So depending on how they're going to

16:19fill her position.

16:23>> Are we going to get two people or we're

16:25going to just try to get a

16:26>> we get one and it starts with the

16:29federal housing. They they all need to

16:31be sent a notice by you letting them

16:34know that there is an opening for

16:36someone who's living in federal housing

16:39>> as the tenant representative.

16:41Then come May when the election comes,

16:44someone else will be um hopefully

16:47somebody will run for that position.

16:49Hopefully it'll be somebody that lives

16:50in the federal housing, but it it's not

16:52a requirement requirement,

16:54>> right? So, um, if you could please get

16:57that letter written to everybody in

16:58federal housing and posted in all of the

17:02buildings as well, please.

17:04>> Y,

17:04>> great. Thank you.

17:10Uh, the chair may ask question on that

17:13open spot.

17:14>> Absolutely.

17:14>> Um, so all federal tenants would be

17:18notified that there is a vacancy,

17:20>> correct?

17:21>> On the board. Um,

17:24so an attempt will be made to fill that

17:28vacancy, but it does not have to be made

17:30from a federal tenant. Correct. You're

17:32saying

17:34>> so if we have no one with interests,

17:37that spot will be vacant until May when

17:39there'll be a town election and then

17:41that has to be a tenant, a federal

17:44tenant.

17:44>> Hopefully not. Hopefully someone will

17:46come forward and the um the board of

17:48selection can appoint.

17:50>> Okay. And

17:54the requirement of a federal tenant must

17:59um adhere as of the date of the election

18:02or the appointment.

18:04>> Well, the appointment only lasts until

18:06the election comes up

18:08>> and that can be someone as I said

18:09without federal tenency. Correct.

18:11>> But as of the election, it has to be a

18:14federal

18:15>> tenant.

18:16>> Well, no, not even the election. No, if

18:18somebody if someone doesn't come

18:19forward,

18:20>> there's no Lori.

18:22>> The board is required to have a federal

18:26tenant on the board required.

18:30So like we have a state

18:34tenant. We have a governor's appointee.

18:37>> We are required to have a federal

18:39resident on this board. Mhm.

18:42>> So we will approach all the federal

18:46residents. We will have a couple people

18:49have already expressed interest.

18:52>> So we will have some interest but we

18:55will be sending a notice out to all of

18:58them.

18:59>> Mhm.

19:00and give everybody an opportunity

19:04to

19:06>> but it does allow that if indeed nobody

19:09from the federal side comes up or runs

19:13that it can be filled by someone who is

19:15not a federal tenant.

19:20I believe that's what I read in the law

19:22because what are you going to do

19:27if no one's going to volunteer?

19:29>> Yeah. Right. Right.

19:30>> It shouldn't become an issue when you

19:33will have entrance.

19:34>> Sure. We've already had some protests

19:36will have entrance. Yeah.

19:37>> Good.

19:38>> Okay. Great.

19:40>> Um

19:42All right. So the um

19:45uh

19:47committee formation to create bylaws for

19:49the AHA board. We were given a template

19:53uh best practices template and uh I took

19:56a stab at which I'm not I didn't see

19:58those in the packet either. I did email

20:00them to everybody but I don't see those

20:02in the packet.

20:05>> I've seen it in the email. I didn't see

20:06it. But

20:07>> you have the copies that I

20:10>> I have the draft.

20:12>> It's not specifically draft.

20:15>> I have it in my phone. I can't

20:16>> That's the one. Do you have a copy for

20:17everybody?

20:22>> [clears throat]

20:26>> Did everybody have a chance to review

20:28the other one? Did you have any anything

20:30you wanted? Additions, deletions,

20:32anything that you The only um thing that

20:36came up for me was we um when this

20:39happened with Miss Turner was that there

20:44was uh the only thing that was lacking

20:47was how to if something like this comes

20:50up, how to remove a member.

20:52>> Okay. And so I got the language um from

20:56another set of dialogues from another

20:59housing authority and added that in

21:02there. That's why I put the draft on you

21:04guys.

21:04>> Yes. I always wonder where you got that

21:05from.

21:07>> Yeah, [clears throat] we'll we'll take a

21:08look at that as soon as we get the soon

21:10as we get the copy.

21:13>> We did find

21:15>> You found the bylaws.

21:16>> Yes. Yeah, I can.

21:17>> Yeah. Older than dirt.

21:19>> 19.

21:20>> You know what? I I think it's a good

21:22thing that that uh we they're going to

21:24be updated. I think um if they are How

21:27How old is Dur?

21:29>> 1971.

21:30>> 71.

21:31>> 71.

21:32>> How did you get a copy of this?

21:35[clears throat]

21:36>> I came up this morning hoping I had

21:38emailed Kimberly, I guess, who's not in

21:40today. Um asking for just what you said,

21:43a the draft. Yeah. A print out of the

21:45draft. And Betty gave me this. They were

21:48I believe they're enough copies for

21:49everybody. Yeah. So that was today.

21:52>> Okay.

21:54So what when did you say 71?

21:56>> 71.

21:59>> Yep.

22:00>> John Davvern, Secretary of the

22:01Commonwealth.

22:02>> Can I ask where you found them?

22:05>> Going through all the books

22:11of the certificate of organization.

22:25But I would have thought they would have

22:26been updated,

22:31>> but they weren't.

22:32>> You mean since 1971?

22:34>> Yeah.

22:34>> So, you know, sometimes these things

22:36come up and it's a good thing we're

22:38we're revisiting it. We've got, you

22:39know,

22:4150 55 years

22:44>> of makeup

22:45>> without an update. So, not a bad thing.

22:49>> And these were done on a typewriter.

22:52>> Yes.

22:59>> So, now that we have these, we probably

23:01should

23:03although we don't really need to.

23:07Maybe I think probably do the have a a

23:11meeting

23:12and compare them and just make sure that

23:15>> we're not missing anything that is in

23:17the original that should be in the new

23:19one or do you think

23:21>> that's

23:24were those bylaws here from this housing

23:28authority or were they

23:29>> this um well the ones that the draft one

23:32that I did was one that Lori got she did

23:34a zoom meeting

23:36>> on bylaws and it was a template that

23:38they provided.

23:39>> Oh, okay.

23:40>> Um as part of the meeting

23:44>> that was done through Mass Narrow.

23:46>> Yes.

23:48>> Yeah. We should we got an email to that

23:51event.

23:52>> Okay.

24:02>> So that was when it was established.

24:04That was when the virus

24:08Okay.

24:12I wonder how many of these gentlemen

24:14that are listed on this Friday as a

24:15stimulus 55 years later. Thank you,

24:18buddy.

24:22>> Thank you.

24:23>> I don't think any of them are still.

24:26So the only thing

24:49it go

24:52Thank you for you two doing this

24:55uh Section 15 was the uh thing that uh I

24:59added was any director may be removed

25:02from the comm with or without cause by

25:03the affirmative vote of twothirds of the

25:05directors then in office at any region

25:08called for that purpose. Written notice

25:11of the proposed removal must be

25:12delivered to all directors at least 10

25:14days prior to the date of the meeting.

25:16And as I said, that was directly taken

25:18from another um previously approved

25:21attorney approved

25:23um

25:24>> set of bylaws.

25:25>> Set of bylaws. Yep. So that was the only

25:27change other than to add, you know,

25:30Auburn Housing Authority.

25:32>> Um

25:34and

25:37yeah, the the address um I should have

25:40italicized that and I apologize.

25:42would have been easier to pick up. But

25:43really that was the only thing that was

25:45changed was that it was Auburn Housing

25:47Authority and then adding the removal

25:49board number. Um everything else was uh

25:53part of the U template that they

25:56provided

25:59>> because they've added things like remote

26:01participation. that in the day there's

26:03no

26:05>> participation in technology and so it

26:08addresses all of those um things that

26:11have come up. So if you guys um want to

26:17reread this against the original

26:20>> and just we'll just make sure that

26:22everything and then we come back to the

26:23next meeting hopefully we can uh make a

26:25motion on it and uh get these adopted

26:27and um taken care of. So um

26:36so we'll

26:49have that as an agenda next month.

26:53>> Wendy.

26:54>> Yes.

26:56So

26:58once you come up with one that we won't

27:00need to get any more legal advice on it.

27:04>> I don't believe so. Those were given to

27:05you by the state. Correct. And like I

27:07said, nothing changed except we added

27:09the urban housing authority in the urban

27:10housing authorities address

27:12>> and then the removal of board members

27:14which like I said it was pulled from

27:15another. Um, I mean, if you feel better

27:17having the attorney review that one

27:19paragraph, then um I would say uh and I

27:23do you agree that um that might not be a

27:26bad idea

27:27>> only because with or without cause

27:31that

27:32>> is concerning because

27:36>> now are you talking director or a board

27:39member commissioner?

27:40>> Board member.

27:41>> Board member. [snorts]

27:42>> Okay. Okay.

27:43>> It is specific to that.

27:46But it says direct. So we change that to

27:52commissioner.

27:53I think I said I pulled it directly from

27:57>> board members is all it refers to.

27:59>> Director may be of any director from the

28:02board. So that's us. That's not you.

28:05>> This is this is specific to the removal

28:08of board members. So if you feel better

28:11having uh Karen Olives take a peek at

28:14it. um or or Donna Brown because I'm

28:18going to go to the conference next week.

28:20I'm going to see these people.

28:21>> Good idea.

28:24>> Round table discussions.

28:25>> Y

28:26>> and this is going to be bylaws will be

28:28something that they're discussing.

28:30>> I mean that would be a you know the last

28:34resort to have to remove a board member.

28:37I mean but it needs to be stated because

28:40it was not stated previously, right? So,

28:44um that's why I added it. But

28:46absolutely, if you're going to go down

28:47to the um Cape, definitely

28:49>> I'm going to go there anyway. I'll bring

28:51it with me and I'll

28:52>> I'll have a discussion with some people

28:54on it.

28:55>> Is everybody okay with that? Should we

28:57make a motion?

28:59>> No. No.

29:00>> I if I may.

29:01>> Sure.

29:02>> I I think what um Miss Brennan is

29:05referring to it's it's the vocabulary.

29:08>> It's not it's in small caps. I mean it's

29:11small letters. There's no cap. We are

29:15referred to as directors,

29:17>> not you. You would be and again that's a

29:19good point.

29:20>> You would be referred to as an employee

29:21of the authority, not as a director. So

29:24>> yes. So the directors are us.

29:28>> It wasn't so much that is it it's just

29:30that the board members are

29:33the most part elected by the town.

29:38So

29:39>> absolutely without having

29:41>> again take take it to uh and have the

29:45and see if there's any feedback on that

29:46and we're happy to happy to do

29:48>> and that's just a small change. It is.

29:51It's just an addition. And like you

29:52said, it was based on the fact that it

29:54wasn't bad and every other every other

29:56set of bylaws that I found had it

29:58>> and I couldn't find the original

30:00>> until

30:02>> is that's where I pulled the language

30:04>> until I did [cough]

30:07[clears throat]

30:07>> and those were approved, you know,

30:09approved by us.

30:11And I think um after after we um you

30:16know implement this and approve it then

30:19it it should be posted on under the

30:21Auburn housing along with the agenda and

30:24the and the meeting minutes as well. And

30:27I know that in Webster, my mom lives in

30:29the Webster housing and they were just

30:31given updated. So that the uh Webster

30:36um director must have attended the

30:37meeting too because they updated their

30:40bylaws and every single person in the

30:43housing authority got a copy of the

30:45bylaws and I'd hope to see that

30:47replicated when

30:48>> after it's approved. Yeah,

30:50>> it's a good thing to have.

30:53Any other comments,

30:55questions? Okay, moving on to the

30:58executive director report statement of

31:00accounts. The warrant items A R and AP

31:03June and July 2026.

31:31One.

32:55June last year.

32:59>> So the June revolving wasn't voted on

33:04because the board didn't get the

33:06supporting documents,

33:08>> right? So this month you did receive the

33:11supporting documents.

33:13>> Yep.

33:13>> So you are if you're able to vote for

33:19June, we'll clean up

33:21>> June and July.

33:22>> June and July.

33:23>> Y

33:24>> and August is on its way.

33:26>> Does anybody have any questions on the

33:28revolving account?

33:32>> I have just a just a couple. I know, you

33:34know, this stuff is approved and

33:35everything, but I'm curious

33:39the group insurance.

33:46One, two, three, four, five checks.

33:50Five checks for a total of $65,000.

33:56Is that paying that whole year up front?

34:00That was pain back up.

34:05>> It was messed up.

34:06>> What was messed up?

34:07>> And then we had to go back. We weren't

34:10able to get into the system and they had

34:14to change our access.

34:16>> Which system? The gick system.

34:20>> The general insurance system. Okay.

34:23>> So, [clears throat] we we they

34:25determined what we owed and then we paid

34:28it.

34:30And how long how far back does this go?

34:35>> Six months anyway. Yeah,

34:39>> they're not the easiest

34:42to get a hold of, but we did finally get

34:44a hold of them. And this is what they

34:47determined that we owed. So, we paid

34:50them up

34:52[clears throat]

34:53and they worked with us on how to get in

34:57and manage it.

34:59We used to get the bills in the mail and

35:02they did away with

35:05that. So everything is online. So if you

35:08have any issues getting in online, it's

35:11a problem.

35:12>> But 6 months.

35:14>> Yeah.

35:15>> They couldn't even figure out how to get

35:17us back in.

35:18>> We had to go through multiple people to

35:21get in.

35:28But we're up to date now.

35:32>> I guess I would have liked to have known

35:34that it was that big a problem.

35:35>> Yeah, absolutely.

35:37>> I mean, it it's not your fault, but the

35:38fact you were dealing with months of

35:41money's owed due to a a state issue,

35:46it's helpful to know.

35:47>> Okay.

35:51And so was that a similar situation that

35:54was the kind of retirement system as

35:55well because there was about $60,000 in

35:58>> No, that was the upfront that was a

36:00different deal. They give us a a yearly

36:03assessment of what we owe in

36:06>> for the retirement system,

36:08>> right? And we pay in January and we pay

36:11in July. So instead of paying the full

36:14amount this year, I paid half a year and

36:18we'll be responsible for the other half

36:20of that in January.

36:24>> That's a different deal.

36:27We're given the opportunity to pay twice

36:29a year.

36:32>> Okay. And so is that a monthly thing

36:34that you also are contributing to? So,

36:37it's monthly and then there's a big bill

36:39that comes due

36:40>> a big assessment

36:40>> for the retirement. And is that because

36:43they're trying to still trying to play

36:44catch-up because it wasn't funded um

36:46correctly like a lot of the state

36:47agencies or you don't know.

36:52>> All I know is since I've been here, I've

36:53been getting that assessment

36:55built

36:58and then I pay monthly based upon

37:00payroll,

37:01>> right? because we contribute

37:04the employees contribute to that,

37:06>> right?

37:06>> Yeah.

37:07>> And that's the one. So there's

37:10two that happened in June.

37:13>> Are you doing that weekly or monthly?

37:16>> The assessment was for July 1st.

37:19>> No, no, not the I'm sorry, not the

37:21assessment, but the the um

37:22>> monthly amount.

37:23>> Monthly. Is it a monthly amount that

37:25you're submitting based on payroll?

37:29>> Yes. and the amounts that people are

37:30contributing to their retirement system.

37:33>> Okay? And so the accountant figures out

37:36what it is that we owe based upon our

37:39payroll sheets, weekly payroll sheets,

37:42what it is we owe monthly and then I

37:44generate a check monthly for the

37:50>> the amount.

37:53So

37:54in June there were two for besides the

37:58uh that very large payment of $52,000

38:04which which you're saying that's half

38:06that was the July 1st assessment and

38:07that's for 6 months.

38:17So let me just make sure that my

38:20non-computational brain understands. So

38:23you have a monthly amount you pay. You

38:25also have an assessed amount.

38:28>> So if your monthly of payments and Mike

38:31the accountant

38:33um figure computes these and figures

38:35these out. So if you go over your

38:38assessed amount, you then owe less

38:41monthly going to the second half of the

38:43fiscal year.

38:44>> No.

38:44>> No.

38:45>> No.

38:45>> Okay. So it stays the same that they

38:49they give us.

38:49>> No, that's okay.

38:50>> Nope. Nope. I just I just curious if

38:53it's a monthly thing that's happening.

38:54Why are there two checks in June?

38:56Question.

38:57>> That may have been the way that I I got

38:59them

39:00>> from Mike

39:04because he calculates what it is we owe.

39:07>> Okay. And so the payroll company that

39:10you're using can't do that. So that

39:13you'd have that every week when you get

39:14your payroll. And then you

39:17add it up at the end of the month and

39:18and make your he has to come up with

39:21that figure for you.

39:23>> He comes up with the figure. The

39:24accountant has always come up with a

39:26figure.

39:26>> But the payroll company can't do that

39:28for you.

39:30>> The payroll company could if we asked

39:31him to.

39:32>> He's always done it.

39:34>> Well, just because he's always done it

39:36doesn't mean that it's the most

39:37efficient way to do it. And now you're

39:39paying an accountant to do something

39:40that the payroll service that you're

39:42already paying for could do for you. and

39:45charge you

39:46>> and charge us charge

39:49>> and and Mike's not charging you.

39:53>> I bet the accountant's charging a lot

39:55more than the payroll company would.

39:57>> It just it's something to look into.

39:59Please. Yeah.

40:04Because it seems to me that if people

40:06are contributing money then once a month

40:09that they should be guaranteed that that

40:11money is going into and earning money

40:13for them where the money's going

40:16>> right. So, it shouldn't be two or three

40:17checks in one month. And if the

40:19accountant isn't doing it in in a timely

40:22fashion, um I know myself, my payroll

40:25company, I get one sheet and tells me

40:26what it is at the end of the month. I

40:28total them all and then I make a deposit

40:30into the accounts. And that happens

40:31every month within the month of of the

40:34um you know, matches. So, um if it were

40:39me, I wouldn't be happy that my money

40:40wasn't going in every month. Um, I I I

40:44want it invested as soon as it was

40:45coming out of my pay.

40:48So, if you could ask that question, find

40:49out if the payroll company um

40:53can give you a sheet, one sheet at the

40:56end that shows all of the it shows the

40:58employees, shows the amount the employee

41:01uh the amount the housing authority is

41:03given, and then the amount that the

41:04employee is having deducted. And then

41:07you just total those up and uh write the

41:09check.

41:27All right. So, we need a motion on the

41:31Did anybody else have any other

41:32questions on the

41:35um

41:38check register for June in the

41:41revolving?

41:48>> No.

41:52>> Okay. Well, I don't

41:54>> No, I don't have this.

41:55>> All right. consolidated. I don't think

41:58there was any question there. That was

42:00pretty cut and dragged.

42:08All right. And then that is the

42:11development. Okay. So, we got the three.

42:14We just do all of the June check

42:17registers at once.

42:18>> Yes.

42:19>> Entertain a motion.

42:21Make a motion that we accept the

42:23checkbook registers for the month of

42:25June 2026 [clears throat]

42:27as submitted.

42:29>> Second.

42:30>> All right. Any other further discussion?

42:33All those in favor?

42:35>> I.

42:37>> So voted. That's June. Let's take a look

42:39at July.

42:56July is not here.

43:03>> No. No.

43:08>> All right. So that's July. So that was

43:10the state of accounts for June in July.

43:14So,

43:17we don't have the check registers for

43:20July.

43:32I have July, I believe.

43:35>> July.

43:35>> Yep.

43:41>> Okay.

44:11Yeah.

44:13And then the

44:26shell.

44:35>> Did you find it? No, you didn't have it.

44:37Okay.

44:38>> I don't have it.

44:39>> Do you want to use mine?

44:44other packet in the last

44:58time.

45:00Yeah.

45:08Show me.

45:39What is this?

46:21So in July I'm not seeing any payments

46:24to pick order was dependent retainer

46:31again. So, is it going to be doubled up

46:33again in August?

46:39>> In July, there's no gig or um Rosa

46:42County retirement. Is that going to be

46:43doubled up in August?

46:46>> I have to ask the accountant and see

46:50because I didn't get the I haven't

46:52gotten the report from him yet.

46:55I'll ask

46:57and we'll make sure it's done on a

46:58monthly basis.

47:01>> Yeah, it should be. Yeah,

47:02>> I understand what you're saying.

47:04>> Do you usually get the report um the

47:06beginning of the month

47:08or the end? Does it

47:11>> It's usually at the end of the month.

47:12>> The end of the month.

47:13>> You get it at the end of the month

47:15following. So the end July 31st, you

47:17don't get it until August 31st.

47:26We're a month behind.

47:37>> That's why I say it's very important to

47:38find out if you pay do it for you. Those

47:41are things that shouldn't be

47:43waiting on the accountant.

47:49I don't have any other questions under

47:50July. Is anybody in here? Thank you.

47:56>> Anybody else have any questions on July?

47:59>> No.

48:05[clears throat]

48:07>> Go to the front of the T.

48:19Okay. to entertain a motion to approve

48:22the July. So, I'm sorry. Yeah, we can

48:27make the motion in a further discussion.

48:30The motion on the July check registers.

48:32>> Um, make a motion that we approve the uh

48:35July 2026 check registers as presented.

48:40>> Okay. Further discussion. Lori, I just

48:43have one question on

48:45[clears throat] so all these that you

48:47gave us for the these are for the backup

48:49for um the debit card.

48:52>> Yes.

48:53>> Okay. Um I just had one question. What

48:57do you use docuign for? Anything that

49:01the state or federal government like

49:04contracts for financial assistance, any

49:07of that stuff is going through document

49:10docuign now.

49:11>> Okay. And you had um you have to have uh

49:16the doctor an account moved out to son

49:18to do that.

49:19>> Yes.

49:20>> All right. Because I saw that I'm like,

49:21"Wow, that's something new." Right.

49:23>> All all the financial agreements are

49:25coming through

49:27with that system and they're requiring

49:30us to use docyign. So we had to open an

49:33account in order to

49:36get through them.

49:38>> Okay.

49:39>> Everything's being automated now. Yeah.

49:41Yeah. As much as possible.

49:44Yeah. Interestingly, this paper, the

49:45society that we didn't know, now we're

49:47using the idea to wreak havoc on

49:50everything else. So, on the um on the

49:54spectrum,

49:58July 6. Okay.

50:04Is this for the whole property? these

50:06spectrum bills.

50:07>> We had two different accounts, one for

50:09packet chalk and one for heater.

50:14And we found that the billing I wasn't

50:18able to pay by check anymore because by

50:21the time it gets sent out there,

50:24everything was getting to them late.

50:27>> So that's why we're using the debit

50:28card.

50:29>> Yeah. Because you can set up automatic

50:30payments on that and it saves you $5 a

50:33month so they don't have to charge you.

50:35And then we know they're getting paid

50:37immediately,

50:37>> right?

50:38>> And there no issues.

50:39>> Yeah, because they were these are a lot

50:41of them were, you know, it it looks like

50:43But I I understand the spectrum is kind

50:46of sticky. You'll get that

50:48>> like when I pay my own, I go down to the

50:50spect spectrum store and just pay the

50:53bill because it doesn't make sense to

50:56put it in the mail for

50:58>> package. It's just Wi-Fi.

51:06Okay.

51:07And the shows, thank you. It's nice to

51:11be able to see that. Yep.

51:13>> Um,

51:15you know, the previous balance and then

51:17balance paid and then the charges going

51:19forward have do you have the um the log

51:22set up for each one of the vehicles?

51:24>> The logs are actually in each vehicle,

51:27>> right? And I and at the end of the

51:29month, you're bringing those in,

51:30matching those up

51:32>> and should probably have a copy with the

51:35statement each one.

51:42We need the update on the apartment

51:44availability and tenant turnover.

52:09Thank you.

52:16>> So there's two in federal

52:19and one in state.

52:20>> Mhm.

52:23>> What does tenant transfer mean? It was

52:26just go from one to another.

52:28>> So they transferred from state to

52:30federal or

52:31>> No, no, no.

52:32>> The the Stoneville Heights was a second

52:36floor elderly person

52:38>> to a first

52:39>> to a first floor. Okay. And that's

52:41[clears throat] and then

52:43at the Pac Village that was

52:47a current resident moved into another

52:51vacant unit as a reasonable

52:54accommodation

52:55and then the vacancy is going to a Champ

53:01applicant and

53:05all the everything is ready. They'll get

53:08housed this week. this person. So, that

53:11vacancy will be gone.

53:13>> All right. We'll get updated on that

53:15next month.

53:16>> Yes, we're doing okay with the

53:19vacancies.

53:22>> Okay.

53:24So, the monthly fuel logs were on the

53:26agenda for this meeting, but you don't

53:28have those.

53:29>> I don't have them on. They're in the

53:30trucks.

53:31>> Okay. So, at the end of each month,

53:34those will be removed from the truck.

53:35Yep. Photo copies kept with the credit

53:37card statements. How do you do that?

53:41>> Um, so thank you for giving us the time

53:44sheets, but this is

53:46not acceptable.

53:47>> That's how I submitted to the auditors.

53:49>> They It needs to be filled out by day

53:52and then shows show you the time off.

53:57I know you make an 7:56 and vacation and

54:01but it should be a dayto day that should

54:04be filled out weekly day to day.

54:08Okay.

54:16I mean, it's a given that you're working

54:1837 and 12 hours

54:21cuz that's what your contract calls for.

54:27That's, you know, it's just that means

54:28nothing.

54:31>> Thank you. You're welcome.

54:44Did you want to talk about the

54:45certificate of final completion for the

54:47JJS universal construction?

54:51>> They completed the work. The state is

54:54requesting that the board vote to pay

54:56the final amount and

54:59that's it's that's what we need to do.

55:01$18,000.

55:03So, what was that overrunning contract

55:06time of 186 days? What what the heck was

55:11that?

55:14Did they stop the job and then

55:17couldn't finish it or

55:25put the roof on all the buildings?

55:29They were doing a roofing project up

55:31there and then they were issues up the

55:33back chage in the front.

55:35>> Okay.

55:36>> And then there were issues with the

55:37sophets

55:39>> and during the storm we had a problem

55:43with the sophets and there were three

55:46apartments that were flooded because of

55:49the roof

55:51>> the that was done. So everything got

55:55pushed off.

55:57They have to come in and repair

55:59the apartments.

56:02And

56:03>> I hope they repair the roofs first,

56:05right? And this office.

56:06>> Oh, yeah. [laughter]

56:08It was a deal.

56:10>> So,

56:10>> wow. I saw that and I was like, what the

56:12Yeah.

56:15And then it was 102,000

56:18changeable

56:22to repair what they

56:25created.

56:31And were they the best? The lowest on

56:32the on the bid? They were the lowest.

56:35Yeah, I know. You get what you pay for

56:36sometimes, right?

56:37>> Mhm.

56:39Wow.

56:44>> That's awesome.

56:45>> We go with who they recommend.

56:51>> Would that been Did they still pay

56:53prevailing wage?

56:56truth and independent surveillance

56:58>> required. [clears throat]

57:00>> I thought so.

57:01>> Yeah,

57:04>> I do remember these bits that address

57:08road wrote in Dudley.

57:10>> Okay.

57:10>> Kind of expect quality work when you're

57:12paying prevailing wage.

57:14>> Yeah, you do.

57:15>> Yep.

57:17>> People don't do what you expect. They do

57:20what you inspect.

57:23That's that's a good that's a good uh

57:25I'll bring over that one. So period

57:27ending is November 26, 2025. So it was

57:30it's completed as of that date and we

57:34need we need to approve that.

57:36>> Yes.

57:38>> And then I'll I'll have to generate a

57:39check for this 18,23707.

57:43>> Okay. I'll entertain a motion to

57:46approve.

57:47I'll make a motion that we approve a

57:49payment of 1823707

57:53for overage in the completion of roofing

57:57at Pacog Village.

57:59>> Is there a second?

58:00>> Second.

58:01>> Any further discussion? All those in

58:04favor?

58:05>> I

58:05>> I

58:08Okay.

58:11>> All right. So, independent accounts

58:13report and applying

58:18All right. So, that was for December

58:202025.

58:26So, that is not on the agenda.

58:29That one is going to have to be put off

58:33next month

58:35because it was not on there.

58:39Moving on. Old business. The executive

58:41director annual annual review. Did you

58:43guys have an opportunity to look at um

58:48the criteria that was passed out at the

58:51last meeting? Are there any questions or

58:54>> additions, deletions?

58:58And we probably

59:01we've got to agree on the format so that

59:04we can get this done by this year.

59:08Um,

59:11so maybe we'll come back uh next month

59:14with

59:18the final questions.

59:22I don't have my I didn't bring my coffee

59:24with me.

59:25But

59:27>> so you're asking for us to review

59:29>> to review that handout that I gave you

59:31and if there's anything that you think

59:34it's not covering or uh and then we can

59:38we'll formulate questions based on that.

59:40>> Okay.

59:45>> And like I said, it would be great if we

59:46could get it done by the end of um 2026.

59:50Yes.

59:54When do you typically sign your

59:56contract, Lori?

59:58Is it year to year on January 1st?

1:00:01>> I have a fiveyear contract,

1:00:02>> right? But is it January 1st and is

1:00:04fiscal year? Fiscal year. Okay.

1:00:07>> And my contract goes through

1:00:1128, I think. I think I'm in the third

1:00:13year.

1:00:14>> Third year of the contract.

1:00:16>> Okay. Um, exterior doors, access

1:00:20control, cameras. Any updates on any of

1:00:22that?

1:00:26[laughter]

1:00:27>> We will be we will be meeting with the

1:00:30residents to discuss what they want to

1:00:35see for

1:00:37the physical improvements of the

1:00:39property because we're going to need to

1:00:40do the um the annual plan for the state

1:00:46by October.

1:00:49And

1:00:51what we had thought with that

1:00:53weatherization grant that that would

1:00:55have included they did put fans in the

1:00:58bathroom.

1:00:59They did some things but they didn't do

1:01:02the windows which was what we expected

1:01:05with weatherization. The trim boards on

1:01:08the outside that are rotted.

1:01:10>> Yep.

1:01:10>> That should all have been in that grant.

1:01:14But the grant got swallowed up by

1:01:16>> Right. We know that. But going forward,

1:01:18>> so going forward in in this next plan,

1:01:23>> we're going to meet with the residents

1:01:24and just see it. I I think the biggest

1:01:27concern is the windows

1:01:29>> and the trim boards that are running

1:01:32out.

1:01:33>> So it and that would be for package

1:01:36village. Fezant Court still needs

1:01:38siding. There's issues at Fezant Court

1:01:41and Auburn Heights.

1:01:44They're going to have issues there, too.

1:01:46So it's not just what goes on at Package

1:01:49Village. The money gets divided between

1:01:52the family units and the special needs

1:01:56>> unit.

1:01:56>> Well, you would think that it would take

1:01:58priority if you could put a screwdriver

1:01:59through the um you know the window

1:02:02>> casing and the window sill, but that

1:02:04would be a priority,

1:02:06>> but we thought it was going to be

1:02:08covered with that weatherization.

1:02:10It didn't happen going forward.

1:02:13>> That should be a priority. That should

1:02:14be a priority. As far as I'm concerned,

1:02:16it is.

1:02:17>> Yeah. And the other thing I think I

1:02:18think you know this, but I don't know if

1:02:20you know it, but my husband and I own a

1:02:21security company and we're um always

1:02:24looking at new technologies and access

1:02:26control and things like that. Um and

1:02:29they are really coming out with some

1:02:31fabulous technology. So instead of

1:02:34having to wire the buildings and

1:02:36everybody has to have a thing inside

1:02:37their apartment and all of that. Um, and

1:02:40I I know it won't work for every elderly

1:02:43person, especially the ones that aren't

1:02:44navigating, you know, cell phones and

1:02:47things like that, but there is some

1:02:48terrific new technology out there that

1:02:51cost it's a fraction of the cost of what

1:02:54it would be to go into each apartment

1:02:57and add a panel and wire and and all of

1:03:00that. They have a lot of great wireless.

1:03:02So, these are the kinds of things that

1:03:04need to be investigated. Um, and the

1:03:07other thing is those exterior doors and

1:03:09getting those locked up and having

1:03:12openers on them, automatic openers on

1:03:14them. You know, you get somebody comes

1:03:15up with an load of groceries and then

1:03:17they're trying to pull that heavy door

1:03:19open and um these are the kinds of

1:03:22things that will make everybody's life

1:03:25easier. So, um, that should be part of

1:03:28that uh the scope

1:03:30>> the fiveyear plan included in it.

1:03:32>> Yeah, absolutely. Um, the fact that none

1:03:37of the exteriors of buildings are are

1:03:38secure is, you know, we've talked about

1:03:41that before. It's crazy

1:03:42>> in this day and age, especially with the

1:03:45most vulnerable population you could

1:03:46possibly have.

1:03:50>> I know you don't want to talk about it

1:03:52on camera, but it's a fact.

1:03:54And it's not going to it's not going to

1:03:56get changed until we start to talk about

1:03:57it, have the conversation, and get it

1:03:59into the into the program in the

1:04:01five-year plan.

1:04:05Have you had opportunity to look at any

1:04:07of the climate ready housing grants and

1:04:09applications that are online? I know

1:04:11that there's you know there's timelines

1:04:13that you've got to you got to hit

1:04:15>> deadlines

1:04:16>> deadlines and

1:04:18>> we had um we were tied up with the with

1:04:21the state audit to be honest with you

1:04:24with you preparing for that state audit

1:04:27and you did get the results in your

1:04:29packet.

1:04:30>> Mhm.

1:04:31>> No findings.

1:04:31>> Yeah, we saw that. That's terrific.

1:04:34Great.

1:04:34>> Yes.

1:04:36>> Even Evelyn was like,

1:04:39>> sorry, Evelyn,

1:04:41>> no findings. They looked at the federal

1:04:43program and the state program.

1:04:46>> Okay.

1:04:48>> So, but again, there are there are

1:04:51timelines and deadlines that need to be

1:04:54on your radar

1:04:57uh going forward for these grants and

1:04:59applications. So, um, I'd like you to

1:05:03start to investigate. The board would

1:05:05like you to investigate that stuff

1:05:07>> and and get it on your get it on your

1:05:09calendar and make sure you're not

1:05:11missing the deadlines because then

1:05:13another whole year is going to go by.

1:05:15And then hopefully at the conference

1:05:18there'll be vendors.

1:05:20There'll be maybe workshops on this.

1:05:24There'll be other directors.

1:05:27>> Networking is the best way to find out

1:05:29what others are doing and and to

1:05:31piggyback on that. You don't need to

1:05:32reinvent the wheel,

1:05:33>> right?

1:05:34>> Is everybody's doing something and uh

1:05:36it's a great way to

1:05:38>> to find that information out.

1:05:40>> Um so we'll wait to hear back from you

1:05:42at the October meeting. We'll put that

1:05:44on the agenda that Loriy's going to give

1:05:46us a

1:05:46>> What are the dates on your conference,

1:05:47Lori?

1:05:49>> She's going to give us a PowerPoint

1:05:51presentation. No,

1:05:56>> I don't know if it's going to really be

1:05:58on, but so the welcome is on Sunday, but

1:06:02the conference actually starts Monday

1:06:04morning. Okay.

1:06:05>> So, it's Monday, Tuesday, and half 14th

1:06:0814th through the 16th. I was like,

1:06:11>> and I will not be staying overnight. I

1:06:14will be traveling back and forth, which

1:06:16is what I normally do. I don't stay.

1:06:19>> It's a long day.

1:06:22>> Um, and the same thing with the grant

1:06:24applications for the activities

1:06:25director.

1:06:27>> Now, as far as that goes,

1:06:31are we competing with the senior center

1:06:34when

1:06:35>> No.

1:06:38No. coordinate with senior center,

1:06:42you know, I mean, you've got fabulous

1:06:44space up there that could be being used

1:06:46for other things, you know, that you

1:06:50could be coordinating with the senior

1:06:51center with and uh maybe um you know,

1:06:55Auburn Youth and Family Services and you

1:06:58know, whole host of partners in this

1:07:01community

1:07:03>> and uh you know, we don't operate in a

1:07:06vacuum.

1:07:08But I

1:07:12I just want the residents to be made

1:07:14aware of what's available at the senior

1:07:16center.

1:07:17>> Absolutely.

1:07:17>> And that way that way if we have the

1:07:19flag town flyer, I mean the people at

1:07:22Packach tend to have better access to it

1:07:24than the people from Stoneville or even

1:07:27the family units because there are

1:07:30things that they can take advantage of

1:07:32also. But I think if we get

1:07:36Usha from the senior center to come and

1:07:38speak with the residents, that will be

1:07:41helpful. Yep.

1:07:42>> And I think if some if Sally wants to

1:07:44come and speak with the residents, that

1:07:46would be helpful.

1:07:47>> Excuse me.

1:07:48>> Because there's food pantries involved.

1:07:50And

1:07:51>> well, this activities director could

1:07:53also be someone that could help with uh

1:07:55act as like an ombudsman. Do you have an

1:07:57ombbitsman?

1:08:00somebody that helps people navigate

1:08:01Medicare and uh the updates every year.

1:08:05>> That's what she does. That's what she

1:08:06does

1:08:07>> at the senior center.

1:08:08>> Yeah.

1:08:09>> So, those resources are already

1:08:11available, but the residents need to be

1:08:13made aware of

1:08:15>> Well, does will Usha travel up here and

1:08:17come to the community here?

1:08:19>> Yes, she's already.

1:08:21>> And how is Usher's um uh salary funded?

1:08:26>> She's paid through the town as far as I

1:08:28know.

1:08:28>> Okay. And is she full-time, part-time?

1:08:32>> Her schedule, but she's been around for

1:08:33quite some time.

1:08:35>> Still time?

1:08:36>> I said, "No, she's been around for quite

1:08:37some time, but I'm not

1:08:38>> She is [clears throat] full time.

1:08:39>> Yeah, she

1:08:40>> Yeah.

1:08:41>> All I know is whenever we've called her,

1:08:43she's extremely helpful."

1:08:45>> Terrific. That's great to hear.

1:08:46>> So, there are good resources through the

1:08:49town

1:08:50>> that our pilot would help pay for

1:08:54>> such as

1:08:56>> Yeah.

1:08:58And I Youth and Family Services, they're

1:09:00excellent.

1:09:00>> Yep. That's what you say, coordination.

1:09:03And if you've got the money and you've

1:09:04got another person and you've got one in

1:09:06each location, they're all working

1:09:07together. Imagine the fabulous things

1:09:09that could happen for everybody.

1:09:11>> Ice cream socials and barbecues in the

1:09:14summer.

1:09:15>> In the past,

1:09:16>> take out, you know, down to Phoenix

1:09:19after go to a movie or, you know,

1:09:22Tuesdays, $5 movies at at Blackstone,

1:09:26whatever. whatever people want, right?

1:09:28>> We did that with the Worcester Senior

1:09:29Softball Association. We had a pizza

1:09:32day. We had an ice cream,

1:09:33>> right? We all went to the Wox game

1:09:36together.

1:09:36>> It was Mr. Senior. The Woo Socks. I

1:09:39mean, there's all kinds of great things

1:09:40happening and that's the kind of thing

1:09:42that, you know, builds community.

1:09:44>> It does,

1:09:44>> right?

1:09:45>> That's great.

1:09:45>> Mhm.

1:09:47[clears throat]

1:09:49>> We can look into what resources are

1:09:52available.

1:09:52>> Yeah. Part-time activities director

1:09:55would be great. get somebody to be doing

1:09:57some stuff and getting people together.

1:10:01[clears throat]

1:10:03>> New business. Um I know Paul.

1:10:05>> Should I bring up my Yes, you

1:10:07>> this is this has been something I've

1:10:10meant to follow through on. Um how many

1:10:13of our sites have a community room here?

1:10:17Packachog and

1:10:20>> Yeah. There isn't one at Feeasant Court

1:10:22and there isn't one at Pinework Court,

1:10:25>> but we could use Auburn Youth's room.

1:10:28No,

1:10:29>> we've never

1:10:29>> never accessed it.

1:10:31>> Well, I guess and then the only place is

1:10:33here and the package is here.

1:10:36>> Okay. I would like to set up before we

1:10:38leave tonight scheduled meetings with

1:10:40tenants at those sites.

1:10:43>> I I hear frequently and I've heard since

1:10:46I've been on and I apologize I've sort

1:10:48of dropped the ball. I would I would

1:10:50like us to be when we went and visited

1:10:53the vacant apartments. I I think people

1:10:56misunderstood. They said, "Oh, we wished

1:10:58you knew we knew you were coming." And

1:11:00that wasn't the purpose. We were just

1:11:02trying to see the apartments when they

1:11:04were empty. But people have expressed a

1:11:07desire to meet with us outside of these

1:11:10meetings.

1:11:11>> You have to be careful.

1:11:12>> There would be strict criteria as far as

1:11:15that. If it's complaints and the

1:11:17complaint hasn't gone through the formal

1:11:19complaint

1:11:20>> okay

1:11:20>> process

1:11:21>> process

1:11:22>> okay

1:11:22>> it's not something we can address

1:11:25>> that has to be made as a formal

1:11:27complaint um but

1:11:30>> you know getting to know us and us

1:11:32getting to know them and you know having

1:11:34general conversation um you know

1:11:37>> and encouraging them if they have a

1:11:38complaint that they have gone to the

1:11:40office

1:11:41>> and the more I think the thing with the

1:11:43complaints is is the more that this

1:11:46stuff becomes you become aware of it

1:11:48then you determine is this a systemic

1:11:51issue

1:11:52>> or is this a one-off

1:11:55>> um and so that helps you to you know to

1:11:58to kind of navigate that a little

1:12:00better.

1:12:01>> So is it advantageous for us today to

1:12:03set up

1:12:05>> gatherings for people to meet us? I I we

1:12:09don't get much of a response except for

1:12:11these two ladies and I think

1:12:13>> as long as it's with a clear

1:12:15understanding that you're not going to

1:12:17be listening to

1:12:19>> individual complaints that haven't gone

1:12:21through the appropriate process.

1:12:23>> Right. Okay.

1:12:24>> Right.

1:12:25>> So it would be a socialization. You also

1:12:28have to be careful like in the board

1:12:29training you're not

1:12:32to get involved in like their rent

1:12:35questions or

1:12:37not. No,

1:12:39>> you just have to be very careful because

1:12:41you work for the board.

1:12:44>> No, you don't. I know nothing to do with

1:12:46money or you're not supposed to be

1:12:49social services

1:12:51>> kind of a deal.

1:12:52>> That's not to say that you don't need to

1:12:54listen to them.

1:12:55>> Yes. But you just need to be careful as

1:12:58to what you say to them.

1:13:01>> Again, it would be like a public comment

1:13:03session and there is no response. We we

1:13:05are listening and again determining is

1:13:08this a systemic issue

1:13:10>> or is this a one-off?

1:13:12>> So that's that would be the the reason

1:13:14behind that Betty.

1:13:16>> So it would be a regular meeting with

1:13:17all of you that we would post just as a

1:13:21>> yeah just a one meet probably

1:13:24>> one time. I mean, twice a year,

1:13:25whatever. And it's uh

1:13:27>> two times a year.

1:13:28>> Yeah.

1:13:28>> Yeah.

1:13:29>> And we could, you know, in the spring

1:13:31talk about the cookout, in the winter we

1:13:33could talk about a holiday gathering and

1:13:35people are welcome to chat, need to be

1:13:37heard.

1:13:38>> But even with that, we have to be care

1:13:41because the state program does not allow

1:13:44for that.

1:13:45>> Does not allow for what?

1:13:46>> For like a holiday program. The federal

1:13:51side does. And in the past,

1:13:54I wasn't going to have a party and just

1:13:56invite federal residents. Everybody got

1:13:58envoyed, right?

1:13:59>> But it was the federal program that

1:14:02actually supported most in addition to

1:14:04the donations that I ran around getting.

1:14:07>> But you also have discretionary funds,

1:14:09don't you? I mean, we see No.

1:14:12>> Well, where is Auburn Florist and those

1:14:15>> That's sundry. That's sundry funds for

1:14:17the office.

1:14:19>> Sunundry funds,

1:14:20>> right? So if that's say if somebody

1:14:23passes away and we send flowers to the

1:14:27resident prior to their passing. So

1:14:30>> if it's like the last thing they see

1:14:34before they pass flowers from us, I

1:14:37consider that to be a win. And that's

1:14:39happened many times.

1:14:41>> So tell me, how is it that you think

1:14:44that other housing authorities are able

1:14:46to do these kinds of things?

1:14:48>> They have section 8.

1:14:50Oh, that's right. You gave up the

1:14:51section 8, right? I did not housing gave

1:14:54up given up by the former director.

1:14:57>> Okay.

1:14:58>> Big big mistake. We don't have

1:15:00discretionary funds like Webster does or

1:15:03Shbury does. Shbury has like towers that

1:15:06they put on the building that they

1:15:08generate income from. We don't have

1:15:11that.

1:15:11>> But you could have donations, right?

1:15:14You said you run around and get

1:15:16donations.

1:15:17>> In the past, I have.

1:15:18>> Yeah. this. I follow Grafton Senior

1:15:21Center and they constant mention of the

1:15:25donations. They have uh summer cookouts.

1:15:28>> The senior center.

1:15:30>> Yes.

1:15:31>> Not the housing.

1:15:32>> You're right. You're right. It is the

1:15:33senior center.

1:15:34>> Senior center. Senior center does get

1:15:36donations. Baska gets donations.

1:15:39>> The senior center gets donations. The

1:15:41housing authority generally doesn't get

1:15:45donations unless I go around and ask and

1:15:49in the past I have done that

1:15:54but then co hit and then things kind of

1:15:57went by.

1:16:00>> Well I mean I'd certainly be willing to

1:16:03donate something for a for a holiday

1:16:05gathering.

1:16:06>> Yeah, definitely.

1:16:07>> Certainly, you know, trays of cookies.

1:16:09I'd be glad to do that. Yep.

1:16:11>> And then it even with that the serve

1:16:15safes

1:16:16I was certified for serve safe so that

1:16:19it was easier to actually prepare bring

1:16:23food in.

1:16:23>> Yeah.

1:16:24>> And make sure you were watching the

1:16:25temperature how long things were left

1:16:27out this that and the other thing. I'll

1:16:29I'll get that reertified.

1:16:32>> Well, I think it's see of it being more

1:16:34of a problem when you're cooking let's

1:16:36say a cookout. I'm thinking of prepare

1:16:38trays of cookies and I don't know. We

1:16:42won't I won't even go into the beverages

1:16:44at this point. That is coming from a

1:16:46serve safe environment. It's doesn't

1:16:48need to be

1:16:49>> We could do that. I That's what I'd like

1:16:51to do and commit you.

1:16:52>> Gone up to BJ's and bought trays.

1:16:55>> That's all.

1:16:57>> Yep. That's all I'm asking.

1:16:58>> And we'll put And anything like that we

1:17:00do, we can use the um debit card to pay

1:17:05for it. I used to use Walmart, but we're

1:17:07not doing Walmart anymore. So, it's like

1:17:10we've kind of limited,

1:17:16>> but that doesn't mean we can't.

1:17:17>> Yes. Let's let's just look at it in a

1:17:20positive way.

1:17:21>> We won't call it Christmas, but

1:17:22>> yeah. Something before the end of the

1:17:24year gathering.

1:17:27[clears throat]

1:17:27>> Can we also book now? I don't know if

1:17:31you have a schedule or the room

1:17:32availability that we can have uh like I

1:17:36suggested initially that we could have a

1:17:38gathering just a meet and greet

1:17:41>> just to say hello introduce ourselves

1:17:44>> what I had said initially that I I had

1:17:46promised tenants who have come to me

1:17:48that I and you have

1:17:50>> rightfully reigned me in on what I can

1:17:52discuss with them. I have no objection

1:17:54to that but I think people

1:17:56>> Paula you want to go you want to come

1:17:58here you want wherever wherever there is

1:18:01also just a just want to say hello shake

1:18:04somebody's hand

1:18:05>> then we could see the package community

1:18:06room understand better

1:18:08>> the layout

1:18:09>> so our first one could be a package

1:18:11>> yeah what what what are the impediments

1:18:13what are the um uh roadblocks up there

1:18:16yeah

1:18:17>> and part of the problem with that

1:18:18community room is the the electrical

1:18:20contract is we're using

1:18:23>> the community room in the front for

1:18:25storage

1:18:25>> sure

1:18:26>> to set up so I mean we used to have a

1:18:28group of like six women that play cards

1:18:32every day and then all of a sudden one

1:18:37>> they're gone though, right?

1:18:38>> They're not there.

1:18:39>> So it's a it's a mood point now cuz

1:18:41they're gone. Okay, we're moving on.

1:18:43>> But but that doesn't mean we can't see

1:18:46if they want to go back.

1:18:47>> Of course. Of course.

1:18:49>> And does everybody have the correct keys

1:18:52for all of the doors for that building?

1:18:54>> They should have the correct keys. Yes,

1:18:55>> they should. Or do they?

1:18:57>> Well, well, they haven't planned. So, I

1:19:00haven't heard

1:19:01>> nobody's complained that they have an

1:19:02incorrect key.

1:19:03>> No.

1:19:04>> Okay. All right.

1:19:05>> I mean, we certainly if we need more

1:19:07keys, we can get more keys made.

1:19:12>> All right. Can we look into October

1:19:17>> to go out and meet a package off?

1:19:20>> Uh, what have we doing today?

1:19:24>> I wanted to talk about October, too.

1:19:27October's meeting is supposed to be on

1:19:29the 6th. I will be traveling. I will not

1:19:31be here.

1:19:31>> Okay.

1:19:32>> Do you want to have the meeting on that

1:19:33day, which is fine without me? I'm I'm

1:19:36>> I'd rather wait to return. How does the

1:19:3813th look?

1:19:39>> The 13th would be okay. I could do

1:19:40October 13th.

1:19:41>> Is that okay with everybody that we

1:19:44>> would you check them on?

1:19:51>> What time?

1:19:52>> Would it be

1:19:54>> same time?

1:19:56Yeah. The meeting would be October 13th

1:19:58at 5:30, but the um

1:20:01>> would that be okay with everybody?

1:20:03>> 13th.

1:20:04>> Okay.

1:20:05>> And the meeting at up at the community

1:20:08will do that. What in an afternoon or

1:20:10something?

1:20:11>> And yep. During the week, Betty said so.

1:20:15How about the 16th in the afternoon? Is

1:20:17that a problem for anyone?

1:20:19>> Fridays are not good for me.

1:20:20>> Why is it Thursday the 15th?

1:20:22>> I don't have calendar in front of me. I

1:20:24don't know. Public could we do it the

1:20:26following week cuz we're already going

1:20:27to have a meeting.

1:20:28>> Yes, that's true. How about the 22nd

1:20:31>> in the afternoon?

1:20:32>> The 22nd. What time are you thinking?

1:20:35>> Yeah.

1:20:36>> 3. You You have a

1:20:38>> That's when she gets off.

1:20:39>> Can you tell us we need to work around

1:20:40your schedule?

1:20:41>> Around your schedule.

1:20:42>> I could do 12.

1:20:45>> October 22nd and 12.

1:20:47>> 12. It's just simply a meet and greet.

1:20:49>> Yep.

1:20:51So that's

1:20:52>> at packagehog at the community center.

1:20:55It's a beginning.

1:20:59>> Um I won't I will post that we're going

1:21:02to be up there but there will be no

1:21:04agenda other than

1:21:05>> I mean you have to post it.

1:21:07>> You have to post it.

1:21:08>> Okay.

1:21:10So it has to be done

1:21:13>> Friday by Friday the 16th.

1:21:17>> And that's a package.

1:21:18>> Yes.

1:21:25Do you want refreshments?

1:21:27>> No, I don't think so. We don't think

1:21:29that's necessary.

1:21:31>> I don't want to add to any more effort.

1:21:33[clears throat] You guys

1:21:34>> historically.

1:21:35>> Yes, I can.

1:21:36>> If you if you meet, you eat, right?

1:21:40>> You meet.

1:21:41>> That used to be on the side.

1:21:42>> I'd appreciate that. Yeah. Tell us what

1:21:45we can do if you need anything.

1:21:46>> No, no, no. This the housing authority

1:21:48will take.

1:21:49>> Okay.

1:21:51Um

1:21:56>> Okay. Is there any other member items?

1:21:58Anybody?

1:21:59>> Yes.

1:22:01I have three tenants that reached out to

1:22:04me.

1:22:04>> Oh, okie do.

1:22:06>> Um I'm not going to say the names. Just

1:22:08going to briefly describe on their

1:22:11concerns.

1:22:13I have one member. She resides at 38

1:22:17Package Packatron Village building 5

1:22:22and she stated um she moved there 4

1:22:25years ago. The trash area had doors. The

1:22:28doors have been removed and have not

1:22:30been replaced with the very warm

1:22:32weather. They encountered a lot of

1:22:34insects and swarmed around the area. Um

1:22:41>> any rodents? Why would you close the

1:22:43doors off?

1:22:44And that's what happened. I was getting

1:22:46into that. Um [laughter]

1:22:48um the exterminator was there a few

1:22:50times.

1:22:52Um

1:22:53but there there was rodents and dead

1:22:55ones too. Um the next one there's more.

1:23:06Okay. Sorry. The way I printed it out is

1:23:09kind of like weird. Thank you.

1:23:11>> Um

1:23:12the next concern was the windows. Um she

1:23:15stated in my um the bathroom and the two

1:23:17parlor windows are in great need of

1:23:19either repair or replacement. They are

1:23:22hard to open and close. The frames are

1:23:25still lifting. The past few winters were

1:23:28very cold and made the rooms very hard

1:23:30to heat.

1:23:32That's one. Um a question though. Why

1:23:36were the doors removed?

1:23:38I gave you the response to that.

1:23:40>> Do you have it

1:23:42>> on me? No.

1:23:42>> No.

1:23:43>> The state the state actually came out

1:23:47and looked at the problem with the doors

1:23:48and they recommended us not replacing

1:23:51them

1:23:53and I sent you that.

1:23:54>> I forgot to put that on. I'm sorry. So,

1:23:57>> a room with trash bins with no doors

1:24:00>> with no doors

1:24:04because they didn't feel that the trash

1:24:06room was big enough to

1:24:09hold

1:24:12the totes

1:24:14and the doors weren't able to close

1:24:17properly.

1:24:18And I'll just have I'll have to print

1:24:21out

1:24:21>> I'll print it for the next meeting. But

1:24:23he did respond from the state and they

1:24:26made a recommendation that we do not

1:24:29replace those doors,

1:24:33>> frozen trash.

1:24:35>> And then the other thing is people are

1:24:38feeding

1:24:39>> like throwing out bread and whatever. So

1:24:44they're drawing

1:24:44>> attracting it.

1:24:46>> Yeah.

1:24:46>> They're draw they're drawing it in.

1:24:50And if they don't bag their trash

1:24:52properly

1:24:54that like if they just throw whatever

1:24:57and don't put it in a bag then the

1:25:00animals have access.

1:25:02>> So there's totes and not dumpsters up

1:25:05there.

1:25:05>> There is no we don't have dumpsters.

1:25:07>> No dumpsters just totes.

1:25:08>> Just totes.

1:25:10>> Okay. [clears throat]

1:25:11>> And waste management comes in.

1:25:12>> We will have another we we're going to

1:25:14have another We'll hear from you again.

1:25:17But let us just finish this and then

1:25:19we'll Okay.

1:25:21>> Second.

1:25:22>> Another one.

1:25:27>> I'll finish. I'll finish. It's okay. Um

1:25:30the next um the next tenant, she reached

1:25:33out to me and she stated that um I have

1:25:38a bay window and in the winter time I

1:25:41actually have to put a blanket down on

1:25:43the bottom of the window to keep the

1:25:45cold air out. And the shelf that sits in

1:25:47front of the window is so cold, you

1:25:49could put an ice cube tray on there and

1:25:52it will stay frozen and sucks up the

1:25:54heat. So, it's not warm in here. So, I

1:25:56have to keep the heat away to put to

1:26:00keep it warm, which is a waste. There's

1:26:02no insulation in these walls and it

1:26:04really needs to be addressed. Another

1:26:06thing that needs to be addressed is the

1:26:08fact that we have people parking all

1:26:11over the place. Some days 35 34 or 5

1:26:14days and during the winter it hurts the

1:26:17plowing cuz they don't come.

1:26:23They don't come out to move their cars.

1:26:26And

1:26:28hold on.

1:26:32>> This got printed again. I'm sorry.

1:26:36Um, she also say that she's lived there

1:26:38for 13 years and when she had a car, she

1:26:40had to be out there at 7:00 in the

1:26:42morning to move it because the plows cuz

1:26:44that's when the plows are coming. And

1:26:46yet people say nothing to these people

1:26:48that consistently.

1:26:52Yeah. No, it I don't I couldn't really

1:26:56understand the texting cuz it looked

1:26:58like it was like auto. Um, the next one

1:27:01is she stated she doesn't understand

1:27:04that. She doesn't understand that at

1:27:06all. And another thing I have to

1:27:07complain about is the cabinets. The

1:27:09cabinets are silver and they are hor

1:27:11horrible.

1:27:14And yeah,

1:27:16it needs to be updated.

1:27:19Third one,

1:27:22package package village again. Um, she's

1:27:25writing in regards to the bathroom

1:27:26window, the kitchen, the bay window, the

1:27:28kitchen window. Extremely hard to open

1:27:30my and her arthritis. It hurts her

1:27:33arthritis. The bathroom window. Um, you

1:27:36sit on the toilet. The draft is

1:27:37extremely bad. Heat going out the

1:27:40window.

1:27:42The gap in the bottom of the window is

1:27:43so deep, very bad. I called housing and

1:27:46was told

1:27:46>> it's systemic

1:27:47>> and was told to and was told to put to

1:27:51put on to put up RM darkness.

1:27:56>> I I don't I couldn't understand that.

1:27:58>> Backers room darkening.

1:28:00>> It just said I called housing was told

1:28:03to put on RM darkness has nothing to do

1:28:05with the bad old window bay windows

1:28:07>> sit in parlor freeze draft bad. I will

1:28:10end this text, start another one. And I

1:28:13told her I'll bring it to the board. And

1:28:15then she also stated

1:28:17um where is it?

1:28:24The exterminator came twice and stated

1:28:27that he will put paperwork why I have so

1:28:29many insects. Stated um he needs to

1:28:32needs to have door door guards from back

1:28:35doors and front back apartment doors.

1:28:38and showed me all of gaps housing should

1:28:40fill. Frank told me before that he

1:28:43couldn't put a door guard on it. It's

1:28:45either he doesn't know how or doesn't

1:28:47want to. Two carp carpenters listened

1:28:51and stated that you can put door guards

1:28:53up. She just wanted to know can we take

1:28:56this matter into consideration

1:29:01and basically why the carpenter and

1:29:04another person telling her one thing and

1:29:06then housing's saying a different thing.

1:29:10>> So those were my three tenants.

1:29:12>> Thank you. You're welcome.

1:29:13>> Thank you for that.

1:29:16>> Well, there seems to be a theme with the

1:29:18windows, huh?

1:29:20>> Yeah.

1:29:20>> Yeah.

1:29:22Well, as I say, when the in the next

1:29:24programming comes up, that needs to be a

1:29:26priority.

1:29:28>> Yes, Lori.

1:29:29>> Well, on a positive note, Francis Frank

1:29:33Depua started his 26th year with the

1:29:37housing party.

1:29:38>> Wow.

1:29:39>> He made it through 25 years.

1:29:44>> Awesome.

1:29:45>> And he's awesome. He tries very hard. He

1:29:49does.

1:29:51Um,

1:29:53public comment agenda related, please

1:30:01careful.

1:30:03I was on the um the board pastor board

1:30:08at the senior center for 10 years,

1:30:10president for seven. Um, the senior

1:30:14center is there for the entire

1:30:17community.

1:30:18They welcome in other towns to come for

1:30:21their programs. Very few people from PV

1:30:25use the senior center.

1:30:28Um, a lot of times some of their

1:30:31programs have a cost to them. They have

1:30:34a they have this pizza thing coming up,

1:30:37pizza, salad, and drinks. It's $3. Some

1:30:42people claim they don't have the money

1:30:44to pay for that kind of thing.

1:30:46>> Yeah. And um

1:30:49some people just don't have the ability

1:30:53to get over to the senior center

1:30:56and don't feel that they should have to

1:30:58go there when we have a community room

1:31:01there that should be put to use, put to

1:31:05good use. I mean, it doesn't have to be

1:31:08a bunch of expensive programs,

1:31:13you know. Or it can just be um I don't

1:31:16know people that like to do things and

1:31:19maybe they'll go in and demonstrate how

1:31:21to do something for whatever

1:31:23>> or just to get together

1:31:27>> because it's it's difficult. You can't

1:31:30sit outside in the in the winter. In the

1:31:32summer there's no damn shade. Mhm.

1:31:35>> There was a nice little patio area put

1:31:37up with two benches and, you know,

1:31:39plants all around it,

1:31:43but the sun is out and that just people

1:31:46can't sit in that.

1:31:47>> Yeah.

1:31:48>> In the summertime. Um, so I

1:31:52I know Usha would come up here, Jean

1:31:54would come up here and talk to you. Um,

1:31:58[snorts] but I also know that they have

1:32:00reached out to Auburn Housing and have

1:32:02not been met with

1:32:05Good points. So that's that's between

1:32:08them and here.

1:32:10>> We can invite Usha to a meeting up here

1:32:12as well to

1:32:13>> see if she'll come.

1:32:15>> Okay.

1:32:15>> The business of complaints need to go

1:32:18through the office first. That's a huge

1:32:21problem because people are afraid

1:32:24they're going to get black ball

1:32:27or they're going to some of the older

1:32:28people think they can get evicted for

1:32:30putting in complaints.

1:32:33Um, and when you call here,

1:32:37uh, and I've said it before, you ask to

1:32:38speak to Lori.

1:32:40No, you can't. What do you want? Nope.

1:32:43She's not available.

1:32:45End of discussion. She does not meet

1:32:48with tenants. She doesn't want to hear

1:32:50the problems. I understand she's

1:32:53restricted in in what she can do, but

1:32:57[clears throat]

1:32:58I think that's part of her job to be

1:33:00transparent to to let a tenant know

1:33:05I I hear you. I understand what you're

1:33:08saying. I wish I could do for you.

1:33:10Whatever it is, you know, a little

1:33:12empathy and consideration goes a long,

1:33:16long way. And they just don't get it

1:33:19from this office. So having them call

1:33:22here to put their complaints first

1:33:24through the office when they're fearful,

1:33:27>> it's not going to work.

1:33:28>> It's just not going to work.

1:33:32>> Thank you.

1:33:32>> Thank you.

1:33:33>> Take your turn.

1:33:34>> I have a concern about the community

1:33:36room access.

1:33:38Was that still an issue? The community

1:33:41room access?

1:33:42>> Yeah, it's locked up. We used to be able

1:33:45to go from the washer and dryers,

1:33:47>> open the door and get out of the heat

1:33:50because that room gets hot.

1:33:51>> Yeah,

1:33:52>> it's very hot. We can just walk through

1:33:54and relax. We can't do that anymore.

1:33:57>> My next question is in case of there's

1:33:59an emergency, isn't the can't the

1:34:03community room be a safe place? There

1:34:07was

1:34:08>> it should be but I called like I said I

1:34:11called

1:34:11>> and if so everybody should have access

1:34:14to that

1:34:14>> absolutely not

1:34:15>> without a problem.

1:34:17>> That's my concern.

1:34:21>> I was told absolutely not by Betty.

1:34:23She's the one that sent me the letter

1:34:24saying

1:34:25>> yay.

1:34:29>> Let's not make light of it. It's not

1:34:31funny. It's not funny. Let's not make

1:34:35light of it. And it's not nice when

1:34:36people lie.

1:34:38>> Yeah, it's not nice when people mispr.

1:34:50[clears throat]

1:34:50>> So, everyone should have a key to that

1:34:53community room. A key that works. Number

1:34:5590 has a key that opens the community

1:34:59room, nor does it open his back door,

1:35:02which somebody that lives in that

1:35:04hallway and he's not supposed to be

1:35:06there. They lock that door and he comes

1:35:09home with groceries. He won't work for

1:35:11him to get in the hallway.

1:35:14So, he has to either put the groceries

1:35:16down, go around to the front door,

1:35:19unlock the door, go upstairs, come back

1:35:22downstairs. Right. That tenant that

1:35:24tenant needs to speak to the office,

1:35:28>> but like I said, it's an issue

1:35:30sometimes.

1:35:30>> Well, he needs to go to the office and

1:35:33then report back to somebody in success,

1:35:35>> right?

1:35:36>> Mhm.

1:35:38>> Okay. So,

1:35:39>> we'll call them tomorrow.

1:35:40>> Going to make sure that all the keys

1:35:42work for that, right? Okay.

1:35:46>> Are there contingency plans for

1:35:48emergencies on the books?

1:35:51>> Good question. We can.

1:35:52>> Okay. And it include there are certain

1:35:55things that include the community room

1:35:58in that.

1:35:59>> Would you like to review those

1:36:00contingenc?

1:36:01>> I would like to see those.

1:36:06>> We'll put that on the agenda for next

1:36:07month.

1:36:14When was the last time that was updated?

1:36:16Do you know, Lori?

1:36:21>> Yeah. No. Okay.

1:36:23>> And I'd prefer not to give a date cuz I

1:36:25really don't know.

1:36:26>> Sure.

1:36:28>> But we do have generators

1:36:31to support both community rooms in the

1:36:33event that we were to lose power.

1:36:35>> Good.

1:36:36>> But this is independent living and

1:36:39that's part of the problem. So the

1:36:42expectation is that the family is going

1:36:44to be looking out for their relative in

1:36:49the event that if we are aware of a

1:36:51storm coming.

1:36:55>> Does everybody in your housing have

1:36:56relatives that they can depend on?

1:36:59>> I bet not.

1:37:01>> And then the town steps up.

1:37:03>> Yeah, the town has center the senior

1:37:06center and high school.

1:37:07>> That's all great. That's all great

1:37:09stuff. But can we see the contingency

1:37:11plan for emergencies for for these um at

1:37:15the next meeting?

1:37:17Um Moren, did you have something that

1:37:19you wanted to add agenda related?

1:37:22>> Yes. Um I

1:37:25do have to say that our trash bins don't

1:37:29have doors on them either.

1:37:32And there is a lot of bugs and flies.

1:37:35And we actually have a lot of beehives

1:37:39too that are in the wood. And I have no

1:37:43idea, but it is true. Um, but I I never

1:37:49notice people just throwing loose trash

1:37:53in the bins. Everything always looks on

1:37:57the up and up. It's bagged. And I think

1:38:01that with the summit and the heat and

1:38:05you know that I I think that there's

1:38:08just no way to really to be able to

1:38:10control that.

1:38:10>> So trash seems to be a problem. Okay.

1:38:13>> So I just want you to add that.

1:38:16>> Thank you.

1:38:22>> Well, we have our next

1:38:25a lot of moving parts.

1:38:28Um, so the next meeting will be on

1:38:30Tuesday, October 13th at 5:30.

1:38:33>> Mhm.

1:38:35>> Um, and I entertain a motion to adjourn.

1:38:39>> Second.

1:38:40>> I'll make a motion that we adjourn. I

1:38:42was waiting for Lonnie. She's over.

1:38:44>> I was

1:38:46[laughter]

1:38:47She's over it.

1:38:50All those in favor? I

1:38:53>> All right. Thank you, everybody.

1:38:59>> [music]