2026-08-20 - Sewer Commissioners

00:05the [music] meeting to order

00:07water sewer commissioners

00:09that

00:11um

00:13first order second order approval of

00:16minutes.

00:17>> Yeah. So, we're going to have to pass

00:18over that cuz uh Paul didn't have time

00:20to get those done. So, we'll have those

00:21for you next meeting. Okay. What time do

00:25you have

00:26>> business?

00:27>> 4:35.

00:31Actually, we got uh we got the April

00:3330th minutes,

00:36don't we? Still on the table from last.

00:39We we had a table from last time because

00:41Bob wasn't here. Bob Bob and I were at a

00:44meeting the meeting before that.

00:45>> Yeah,

00:46>> in May set the May meeting

00:48>> in May.

00:49>> Yeah,

00:51>> they were approved in May.

00:52>> There was a set of minutes approved in

00:54May. So,

00:56>> March 19th, April 30th is the one that's

00:59on the head.

01:01>> Okay.

01:03>> All right. Again, new business, the

01:06public comments.

01:09>> Perfect.

01:11Reorganization of the board.

01:13>> Yeah, we'll have to hold that off till

01:14next meeting if that's okay when Wayne's

01:16here. Yep.

01:17>> Yeah, it' be best.

01:17>> We have to have no choice. We

01:20>> We could nominate him for everything.

01:21[clears throat]

01:25uh abments that's support

01:30replacement

01:32placement.

01:32>> So, if you guys don't mind, I'll

01:33introduce Emma Williamson who's a town

01:35engineer. Uh she's been working with me

01:37on some sewer stuff. So, figur it would

01:39be helpful for her to start coming to

01:40some sewer commission meetings and kind

01:42of provide you guys with information as

01:44well from the town engineer side of the

01:46DPW. Okay.

01:48>> As well as what I have going on.

01:49>> That's awesome.

01:50>> So, um Okay,

01:53>> thank you.

01:53>> So, M Mark, so Em has been working on

01:56that Water Street Culver project.

01:58>> Okay.

01:58>> Um, here's a utility plan that doesn't

02:02clearly show the sewer line, but it

02:04shows the sewer line and where it's

02:06going to be placed in reference to the

02:08culbert. So, they're going to replace

02:10they're going to be replacing the two

02:12corrugated metal pipes there with a 5ft

02:14by 8t box culbert,

02:16um, foursided box culvert. And because

02:19of that, the sewer main is going to have

02:21to be run inside of the box cover and it

02:24will be covered with material to match

02:27that of the stream bed. So it won't be

02:29exposed, but it will be at it'll be at

02:31this a similar grade to what it

02:33currently is now.

02:34>> Okay.

02:36>> Yeah. Just to provide a little more

02:37context, when they went out and did the

02:39soil testing, the soils were different

02:41on either side. So, we couldn't move

02:43forward with the three-sided box culbert

02:45and had to switch to a four-sided

02:48um to meet the structural requirements.

02:52>> Right. Uh this won't have much cover on

02:55it, will it? So, I

02:57>> No, it's proposed to be encased in

02:59ductile iron.

03:01>> It's got to be a ductile iron pipe.

03:03>> Yeah.

03:04>> Okay.

03:06should still be insulated though cuz

03:07it's what M3P

03:10>> Yes. I installed that. What? It's going

03:12to So, the PVC is going to be insulated

03:15in ductal iron.

03:16>> Yes.

03:16>> Oh, it's going to be duct.

03:18>> It's going to be in sleep. Yes. Sleep.

03:20>> All right.

03:20>> Yeah. So, like Pete said, that's in the

03:22stream bed material.

03:24>> So,

03:24>> and then it's covered with the stream

03:26bed. So, it's not exposed to the running

03:27water.

03:28>> Gotcha.

03:29>> To the stream flow. The stream flow will

03:31be above it.

03:32>> All right.

03:35So, um, yeah, I just want to kind of

03:37provide you guys some of this for

03:38information and kind of review so you're

03:42don't get surprised if somebody starts

03:43asking you questions on the street.

03:49>> Some new drainage

03:52sewer itself. There's no water down

03:54there, right?

03:56>> No, not comes in from Sun Street for

04:00those couple houses there.

04:07What's the time frame?

04:10>> Um, so we are just submitting to Mass

04:12Dot for the 25% review now, which is why

04:15we wanted to bring it up at this meeting

04:17in case there were any concerns we could

04:19address them early. Um, ideally

04:22construction next spring, but it may be

04:24the spring after depending on funding

04:26and how the permitting goes.

04:31>> What's the the DT you what are you

04:34getting from them?

04:36>> Since the um span of the culbert's more

04:38than 10 ft, it's considered a bridge.

04:41So, they have to review it.

04:44>> You'll have a fun time with that, I bet.

04:46[clears throat]

04:47>> Yeah. Luckily, it's just the central

04:48office and not Boston because it's a

04:51small bridge and not 20 ft plus.

04:55>> Well, just I've had some other

04:57experiences

04:59other projects.

05:01Okay, that sounds good. But again,

05:03you're looking two years out

05:06construction actually to get everything.

05:09>> Yeah, because of the unknown approvals

05:10and what might get triggered. You're

05:12looking unfortunately, it's a one to

05:13two-year time frame from the start of

05:16next construction.

05:17>> Well, you got to go through all 25% 75%

05:20final.

05:21>> Yeah.

05:22>> Wait three months for comments,

05:25you know. Okay. It is what it is.

05:29Oh,

05:29>> be nothing left by then. Excavation will

05:32be easy. [laughter]

05:35>> Uh, any more sight plan?

05:38>> Sure. So, the first one I have for you

05:40guys is for 481 Washington Street. It's

05:44right at the intersection of Elm Street

05:46and Route 20. I guess it used to be an

05:49old gas station and now it's like a used

05:51car lot.

05:52>> Used car lot slash uh convenience store

05:56or something. So, they're going to be

05:57looking to uh construct a 6,000 foot

06:01building. I believe right now 2,000 of

06:04that 2,000 square feet of that

06:05approximately is um allocated for Dunkin

06:08Donuts. So, you show that you'll see

06:10they're proposing a um a grease trap,

06:13exterior grease trap tying into the

06:15existing 8 in PVC sewer main [snorts]

06:20that's goes through an easement on their

06:21property.

06:28They seem they're going to be tying into

06:30an existing lateral existing stub.

06:35>> This one's

06:36>> they're going to have in and out on uh

06:43>> it shows an exit over here on Elm

06:45Street.

06:45>> Yeah, I am.

06:46>> That ain't going to work.

06:47>> Well, I only look at it as far as sewer

06:49goes.

06:50>> Yeah. I'm sorry.

06:52>> I didn't look at it as far as track. I

06:54understand that

06:54>> doing site work. You know what I mean?

06:56>> Yeah. They're going in front of planning

06:57board for site plan. So traffic will be

06:59addressed through planning board.

07:01>> That that's not going to fly there.

07:03[snorts]

07:04>> Only for the fact that there's only a

07:05blinking light there.

07:06>> Mhm.

07:06>> So there's no means no means of egress

07:09safely out of that place. And and they

07:11should make this being route 20 a right

07:13hand turn only.

07:14>> It is a right-hand turn on to 20 only.

07:17>> Only. Yeah.

07:17>> Yeah. I don't know if it's on this site

07:19plan, but it's on one of their plans.

07:22>> Yeah,

07:22>> but I only printed the utility sheet.

07:24>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They shouldn't they

07:26shouldn't have an exit there.

07:30>> That's not my board.

07:31>> No. And that's going to be mass that's

07:33on route 20 anyway. So, Matt, they're

07:34going to be in front of Mass DOT for

07:36their changing

07:37>> for anything they change with access.

07:40>> Yeah. But if they don't change,

07:42>> they can mass dot won't let you get away

07:44with saying we're not changing. review

07:46change any type of traffic intensity for

07:49the parcel.

07:50>> They're going to review

07:51>> any change of use.

07:52>> Yeah, they're going to believe they've

07:54already submitted for their curb cuts.

07:57>> Oh,

08:01>> and that cuts through there that cuts to

08:03the back side of the rail tracks.

08:06>> The BP gas station. Is this the site I'm

08:09thinking of?

08:09>> Yeah.

08:10>> Yeah.

08:12Change

08:12>> every other month. changed signs

08:15>> in the last 10 years.

08:17>> Three different ones.

08:18>> Sewer.

08:20>> Just quickly, Pete, the sewer I see that

08:22I assume goes left to right.

08:25It comes off of 20 and it heads into the

08:29property.

08:31>> I am not 100% sure on that.

08:34>> Okay.

08:36I just wondering which way it ran cuz

08:38it's coming down the hill on the 20

08:40comes into this structure. must be that

08:42must be going that direction.

08:46So I mean

08:47>> yeah I mean the the contours show the

08:49elevation running away from Route 20. So

08:51yes, I would say it [snorts] flows away

08:53from Route 20 through the easement.

09:03Pretty straightforward sewer wise.

09:09Yeah, I'm seeing it comes down 220.

09:12>> Oh, from there.

09:14>> Yeah. And it goes down um

09:17school street.

09:19>> Yes.

09:21>> Okay. Our GIS shows it going towards 20

09:25>> coming from up above. From the

09:26neighborhood behind.

09:27>> Yeah.

09:29Yeah. That goes on picks up all of

09:31Riverside and Oakland Drive and all

09:33that.

09:34>> Up behind there.

09:34>> Up behind there.

09:42All righty.

09:44It's not a good spot for this.

09:46>> What's that?

09:47>> It's a very busy road and people coming

09:50down the hill especially with that green

09:52light.

09:53>> They're off to the races. [snorts]

09:56>> All right. Very good. What's What's

09:58next, Peter?

09:59>> Next one is another site plan from 190

10:02West Wister Washington Street from

10:05Eastland Partners. They have a current

10:07site plan approval to do a 100,000

10:09square foot building uh one single

10:12building. They want to change that and

10:14do I think the five buildings that are

10:17shown ranging from I think it's 9,000

10:20square ft up to 20,000 square ft.

10:25So it's a very it's it's preliminary

10:27where we don't know the use. So my

10:30approval was was fairly straightforward

10:32in that they already had an approval for

10:34the 100,000 square foot building through

10:36that site plan that happened years ago

10:39>> and that without knowing the use um

10:43it's [snorts] hard they may be required

10:44to have grass grease traps or oil water

10:47separators depending what types of uh

10:49commercial use happens in those

10:51buildings

10:52>> always with [snorts] with trucking

10:54involved

10:55>> you know

10:56>> but it's hard to know if they're going

10:57to do like I

10:59garage bays or just office space or

11:02whatever.

11:03>> What's this only? Is it highway business

11:06or something?

11:07>> I don't know.

11:08>> I would imagine

11:09>> right in that area. [snorts]

11:14>> So,

11:15>> so that's the site. So, their saw is

11:17going to run down

11:19to where uh

11:22>> there's a current culde-sac and there's

11:24a pump station down there owned by

11:27um whatever building is down there.

11:29>> Ross Trucking is down there.

11:31>> There's one of those and there's another

11:32building down there too. I think it's

11:34two Commerce Drive.

11:36>> Okay.

11:36>> There's a pump station in between the

11:38two of those that's owned by must be

11:40either both of them or one of them.

11:42>> Yeah.

11:42>> And this is going to flow down to that

11:44and then get pumped up to the guard

11:46drive. easement from there.

11:48>> From there. Yeah.

11:52>> So again, fairly straightforward just

11:55letting the um applicant know that or

11:58and the planning board know depending on

12:00the type of use they may be required to

12:02do additional infrastructure.

12:04>> Absolutely.

12:04>> To accommodate the flow.

12:07>> These would be subject to connection

12:09fees.

12:09>> Yes. Oh, most definitely.

12:11>> All right.

12:12>> Yep. They [snorts] got plenty of money

12:13>> and those are based I mean no matter no

12:15matter who it is they're going to be

12:16based on connection fees and that title

12:19five flow and stuff like that.

12:21>> Yeah.

12:22>> All right.

12:25>> Great. Thank you.

12:27>> No thank you. Next item

12:31special town meeting with articles.

12:33>> Yeah. So we have special town meeting

12:35coming up. There are a couple things I'd

12:37like to present and ask for. One is um

12:40to see if town meeting will flow to

12:42appropriate $99,000 from sewer retained

12:45earnings for the purchase of the new

12:47sewer truck. Um the current S2 is a 2014

12:52um that has been gotten quite a bit of

12:55use out of it.

12:56>> Mhm.

12:57>> Is it a plow truck too?

12:58>> It is a plow truck also. Yes.

13:01>> They [snorts] just have a tendency to

13:02beat trucks up.

13:04>> Um I think any type of use Yeah. beats

13:07the truck. I don't think it's

13:09>> the personnel beating the truck up. I

13:11think it's just the use that beats the

13:12truck up. So,

13:14>> yeah, it's definitely in need of

13:16replacement. The road,

13:17>> this the steel body beats the truck up.

13:19>> The steel utility body is rotting away.

13:21So, this truck we're ordering with an

13:23aluminum utility body to match the

13:25aluminum pickup body cuz we've seen

13:28those don't rot away last longer. So, if

13:31you're looking to get 15 years out of

13:32it, we will hopefully stay away from the

13:35bodies rusting away.

13:36>> Yeah.

13:37>> Yeah.

13:38>> Um the frame seems good.

13:41>> So, and secondly, we're asking for

13:44$170,000 from sewer retained earnings to

13:47replace pump one at the Pinrock pump

13:50station that we've talked about before.

13:52>> Yeah.

13:52>> This will give us the funding that give

13:54us to order that, but knowing it's a

13:56one-year lead time. So try and get that

13:59ordered and and get that coming so we

14:02can get that replaced and then rebuild

14:04the current pump one and then rotate

14:06through pumps 2, three, and four over

14:07the next five or six years.

14:09>> Yeah. All right. Good.

14:10>> So

14:11>> perfect. [snorts]

14:12>> Excellent.

14:13>> That station cannot go down.

14:15>> No, most definitely not. So um and again

14:18that'll be this will be pending what we

14:20end up getting seeing for retained

14:22earnings, but that won't be certified

14:24through Mass DO until September or so.

14:27Yeah,

14:27>> but we will know what's certified before

14:29town meeting.

14:30>> All right,

14:31>> good.

14:33>> All right, onward upwards clean water.

14:36>> Yeah, there's no updates from Upper

14:38Blackstone

14:39that I'm aware of. Emma and I just did a

14:42tour with them uh last week to talk to

14:45get some information on their uh

14:48pre-treatment program, their industrial

14:50pre-treatment program, and they gave us

14:52a tour and stuff, and it's pretty

14:53informative to see everything they do

14:55there and how they do it. So

14:57>> at that scale,

14:59>> yeah,

14:59>> it's a big operation.

15:00>> It's it's [clears throat] a big

15:01operation.

15:02>> Small footprint for I think it's a small

15:04footprint for the flow that they manage.

15:06But

15:08>> it started out and next thing you know,

15:09Milbury's pumping all their sewer in.

15:12Then they're taking the sewer from

15:13Holden and

15:14>> you know

15:15>> we're taking sew from Oxford.

15:17>> Yeah.

15:18>> So you know it's not just the Wister,

15:20it's eight other towns, you know.

15:22>> Right.

15:24>> Okay. [snorts] Um, next billing

15:27schedules.

15:28>> You guys have those for a year.

15:32>> Yeah. The last building I went up there,

15:34the boss building. I worked there for a

15:35year and a half.

15:36>> Oh, no kidding.

15:42>> It's amazing how everything there gets

15:44treated naturally.

15:46>> You know what I mean?

15:47>> Yeah, that was your comment that there

15:48was so few chemicals being used.

15:51>> It's unbelievable. treat.

15:52>> Yeah, minimal chemicals until

15:56>> Yeah. disinfection at the end,

15:57>> right?

15:59>> And have the chlorination, but other

16:00than that,

16:03>> we put all new furnaces in there and we

16:05did a bunch of work.

16:08>> That was that Walsh.

16:10>> What's that?

16:10>> Walsh. Was that Walsh?

16:12>> No. No. Um, actually it was um

16:18Smith, I think, was the engineering

16:20company overseeing it. They bought out

16:24somebody else. I forget who it was. I

16:27worked for Nickson. Nickerson was the

16:29subcontractor. They do all sewer and

16:30water treatment facilities. They're out

16:32of Connecticut. That's where I work

16:34though. But they are

17:06is the uh solo thing uh panning out for

17:10a while there. We were on the negative

17:12side of getting any views out of it.

17:14>> No, I believe it's it's helping us.

17:18Any questions, Mark, on the billing

17:20schedules, concerns?

17:23>> No.

17:24>> Okay.

17:27>> Uh, new tour connection, but there's

17:30nothing going on.

17:31>> Been none since your last meeting.

17:37>> Yeah, we haven't done I mean, there's

17:39been minimal work. Maybe three or four

17:41hours for our guys working for anything

17:43to do with

17:44>> DPW. Okay,

17:46>> that's good. So,

17:58>> all right. Next, uh,

17:59>> the budget report. The being just

18:02starting the FY27 budget, the reports

18:05aren't catching up yet. So, I'll have

18:06one for you for your next meeting.

18:09>> Very good.

18:12All right. Number nine, current project,

18:14Sword Street Force Main.

18:15>> Yeah. So, the Sword Street Force Main,

18:17we actually went out to bid. So, the bid

18:20results are in front of you. We received

18:21six bids. Um, the engineers estimated

18:25cost was approximately 3.3 million for

18:29the phase one of Sword Street, which is

18:31approximately 2700 ft of lining. So,

18:35it'll be um I think it's five access

18:38pits coming out of the pump station and

18:41going up uh Route 12 from Sword Street

18:44North to the bank.

18:46and getting us off to that side street,

18:48installing some new valves and

18:50bypassing. So, that will get us through

18:53>> the historically um the historic area of

18:57where you've had most of your breaks, I

18:59believe, and get those lined

19:02>> stretch definitely.

19:03>> Yeah. So, again, approximately 2,700 ft.

19:06Um the low bidder was actually about

19:08900,000 under the engineers estimate at

19:11just over 2.4 million. And now it's Rard

19:14Ricardi brothers. I think they've done

19:17some work for the town before. I think

19:18they're out of Framingham.

19:19>> No, they're wor actually West I think

19:22they might be in West Bo.

19:24>> They they bid the uh the lining.

19:26>> Yeah. So none of the It's interesting

19:29because of the digging none of the

19:31lining companies bid it. So Insich Form

19:33didn't bid it themselves. National Water

19:35Man, any of the lining companies, it the

19:38the construction companies bid it

19:41>> and they're going to sub out the lining

19:42to the bigger companies to the lining

19:45companies.

19:45>> To the lining companies. Yeah.

19:46>> So, it's kind of a I think a a mix and

19:49match of

19:51>> is it a lining project or a construction

19:53project, right?

19:54>> In order to get the access pits to do

19:56that lining. So, I think they can line

19:58comfortably 600 ft at one time without

20:02having to get access. So that's why we

20:04have to do the access pits for that for

20:06that length.

20:08>> And going under the railroad tracks in

20:10the brook is going to be pretty

20:11interesting because we're going to try

20:13and um take out of commission the

20:17gravity main and run a temporary force

20:19main from the pump station through the

20:21gravity main into a pit and then bypass

20:25from there the rest of the sewer main

20:27while they do the lining. So

20:30it's going to be an Yeah, it's going to

20:32be an interesting process. I want to see

20:33that one.

20:34>> You will. [snorts]

20:36>> There's a lot of flow going out of that

20:38station.

20:38>> Um, but they're going to anything coming

20:40from Route 12 will be captured before it

20:43gets to the pump station. So, the only

20:45flow going to the Sword Street pump

20:47station will be coming from the private

20:49resonance up and above it, I guess, east

20:52of the pump station. So, that pump

20:54station does anywhere from, say, 250 to

20:57400,000 gallons a day, right?

20:59>> It's not the biggest, it's not as big as

21:01Holstrom. So, um, yeah, it'll be

21:04interesting to see how they do it. The

21:06engineer kind of left it up to the

21:08contractor on means and methods for

21:11bypassing.

21:13>> So,

21:16>> so Ricardi Brothers was pretty cheap,

21:18huh?

21:18>> They were. They seem to have pennied a

21:20lot of the paving issues, which is

21:22interesting. I mean, you can kind of

21:23look at it if you want and and see.

21:25>> Yeah. I'm not It's interesting to see.

21:28But so, the the engineer is going to be

21:30review. currently reviewing these. We're

21:32meeting on Monday to get their

21:34assessment of the bids and their review

21:36of the contractors themselves and a

21:39recommendation from them and for your

21:42next meeting. I don't know if you guys

21:45if that has to come in front of the

21:46commission for approval or if that just

21:49goes from us to Dory.

21:53But I'll follow up on that and depending

21:55on where we land,

21:57>> we were hoping to have this project done

21:59this construction season,

22:02>> but I'm not looking to have my first

22:04project with the work on Route 12 get

22:07jammed up and have to go into winter

22:08with open pits on Route 12.

22:10>> I ain't going to plug. So, they're going

22:12to probably start some of the work and

22:13get some of the valving in place to

22:15bypass from the pump station and then

22:17come spring start with the, you know,

22:20digging the the pits and starting with

22:22the bypass. You know, that that'll give

22:24them time to get a good bypass plan in

22:26place.

22:27>> Yeah.

22:27>> And figure out the best way to do it.

22:29>> Very good.

22:31>> So, they'll probably do some some of the

22:32light lifting this fall and start next

22:34spring for this project

22:37>> because there's still going to be quite

22:38a quite a bit of flow coming. [snorts]

22:40Yes.

22:42>> Always is.

22:44>> All right. Old business

22:47home station.

22:48>> Yeah. So, I'm still working with the

22:49property owners there in that area,

22:51whether it be I'm I reached out to Home

22:54Depot and got in touch with one of their

22:55land use attorneys. So, hopefully we can

22:58get an easement from them and from the

23:00property owner um at 39 Prospect Street.

23:04Still working with him as well. So, uh,

23:07that is definitely a work in progress.

23:09And,

23:10um, yeah, emails, returns from Home

23:14Depot aren't extremely quick.

23:16>> They are.

23:17>> They are not.

23:18>> Well, I was wonder they they seem

23:20receptive though.

23:22>> It was a very quick conversation. It

23:24took me probably a month to get from the

23:26store manager in Auburn to an attorney

23:28to talk to. So,

23:31>> he didn't say no right away, but I also

23:33emailed him a um possible plan and I

23:38haven't heard back from him and that was

23:39probably a month ago also. So, yep,

23:43we're in that hurry up and wait phase

23:45unfortunately.

23:46>> Lo, I went to a project in West Bro and

23:49they wouldn't let a guy come do an east

23:51through the property.

23:52>> What?

23:52>> And it was a it was different dynamic

23:55than that. was private owner of

23:58property.

23:59>> And

23:59>> so

24:00>> the kicker was the force made for the

24:02sewer plant went right by this property,

24:05but they couldn't tie it and they

24:07couldn't grab it. They they were trying

24:09to figure out a way to get it to

24:11somewhere gravity and one of them was

24:13going through the parking lot, but

24:15Lowe's said no. So

24:17>> the only good thing is this isn't going

24:18through any part of their parking lot or

24:20any part of their

24:22>> operational portion of their property.

24:24So

24:24>> over the wall. Yeah. So hopefully that

24:26that's a plus for us. But

24:29>> we've had to uh

24:32in five and we've had to walk that

24:35>> brush rises. Yeah.

24:36>> It's a long [snorts] walk.

24:40>> Okay. Um next item day of the next

24:43meeting.

24:47>> Send out an email and see available

24:49dates. So Wayne's not here also. So

24:53>> fill it out. Nobody knows yet.

24:57>> We'll try and do something the next four

24:58to six weeks. Maybe end of September,

25:00beginning of October.

25:02>> Yeah.

25:02>> Does that work?

25:03>> Oh, it's, you know, we're not really

25:05overwhelmed with things.

25:07>> No. So,

25:08>> no. Things are going okay.

25:10>> Yeah. The four to six weeks sounds good.

25:11>> Okay.

25:12>> I'll I'll make out with that u that

25:14break

25:16>> at Hol at not Holston, but South Bridge

25:19Street Court.

25:19>> Yeah.

25:20>> As good as could be expected.

25:21>> Yeah.

25:22>> Yeah. That's your second

25:24most volume pump station,

25:26>> right?

25:26>> So, learned a little bit,

25:28>> right?

25:28>> Uh came up with a emergency action plan

25:31if that pump station goes down again.

25:34>> Yeah.

25:34>> So, I found an older emergency action

25:36plan for Pinrock. Uh worked through that

25:40and I came up with I'm working on

25:42creating emergency action plans for

25:44Pinrock, Holstrom, and Sword because

25:46those are your three biggest stations.

25:48that way there. If they go down it, we

25:50know to get 12 trucks and put the three

25:54trucks here, three trucks here, four

25:56trucks there.

25:57>> So, no, no matter who's here, the

26:00blueprint is in place.

26:02>> I mean, pinrock is just going to be I

26:04don't want to say open prey, but it's

26:06>> We have a plan. It's 30 trucks. It's a

26:09lot. You know what I mean? You have to

26:11shut down Holstrom. You have to shut

26:12down Sword Street. You have to bypass at

26:15Pinrock and bypass the other two. pin

26:17rod should be all set now because we put

26:19that bypass line in. So,

26:21>> but if the pumps go down, if some if

26:23there's a catastrophic failure

26:25>> in the pumps.

26:26>> Yeah.

26:27>> At the station,

26:28>> right?

26:28>> That fine rock station you 30 trucks.

26:32>> Yeah.

26:32>> I don't know where you're going to put

26:33them.

26:34>> Well, again, I think once you shut down

26:36Holstrom and Sword, that probably

26:38eliminates maybe hopefully half of the

26:41flow.

26:41>> Yeah. So then you only have to

26:43accommodate half of the flow going to

26:44pinrock which you could get from

26:46manholes coming from the um garter drive

26:49easement.

26:50>> Yeah.

26:50>> And because you you're not getting

26:51trucks into the pinrock pump station

26:53parcel.

26:54>> No.

26:54>> So you're going to have to grab it

26:56upream at manholes and that was kind of

26:59the trickiest part to identify those.

27:01>> Yeah.

27:01>> Pull was okay. Sword street was a little

27:03bit easier because it's a lot less flow.

27:06>> Those structures are they available that

27:09you were going to pull out of? I've

27:11identified a few of them. Um, and I

27:14think again if the station goes down and

27:16it starts searchcharging into the

27:18collection system, those those

27:20structures will be pretty much reserved

27:23capacity and you'll be able to you won't

27:25be drawing off of a half a pipe of flow.

27:28You'll be drawing out of a submerged

27:30manhole with enough flow coming into it

27:32that Well,

27:33>> I'm just talking about they're

27:34accessible. Yes. Some what I've

27:36identified, some of them are accessible

27:37on uh different portions of the um the

27:41trailer park property that's there.

27:43>> I I tried to look through our GIS and

27:46identify manhole covers that we can get

27:49tractor trailers up to and the the

27:518,000galon tankers up to suck out of.

27:54>> Very good.

27:56>> Y how's that uh easement

28:00>> that's been as far as maintained? Um,

28:04we've got that collapse on that on that

28:07easement there on that on that force

28:09man. Has anybody gone up to

28:12>> Goddard is gravity main?

28:15>> Gravity main.

28:16>> There's a there's a there's a break in

28:17the pipe up there by by the brook.

28:20>> So I we have been up there. We've

28:23maintained it where there's

28:26>> you're talking about where the two pipes

28:27come in together where it crosses the

28:29brook.

28:30>> Yeah.

28:31Okay. I mean, I I looked at it. I didn't

28:33see any evidence of a

28:35>> They came there's not a break there.

28:37There's a collapse on the top of the

28:39plate.

28:39>> And it's and it's not it's not that was

28:43going to be part of the project when

28:44they when they go up there to do the

28:46lining and all that other stuff along

28:47with the access road we talked about.

28:50>> Yep.

28:50>> Uh

28:51>> so that's again I kind of let that sit

28:54and let that be part of So after we get

28:55through Sword Street.

28:57>> Yeah. the funding, town meeting funding

29:00was for Sword Street and Goddard Street.

29:02>> Yeah.

29:02>> So, I think we'll see what we have left

29:03based on this and then pivot to Goddard

29:08Drive instead of doing phase two of

29:10Sword

29:11>> which gets you up through Jerome AB and

29:13stuff like that. I think GDDARD would be

29:15a better more of a priority to help with

29:18the infiltration.

29:19>> Yeah. So use the funds and that's when

29:22again during that design and talking

29:24with the engineer I believe that the

29:26design of God is probably 50% done.

29:29>> Yeah, that sounds about right.

29:30>> And I can ask him about that collapse

29:33and if they're aware of it and what

29:35they've kind of done, but I've been

29:36focusing mostly on Sword Street with

29:38them.

29:38>> Yeah.

29:39>> To kind of get this project going.

29:40>> Yeah. Because that's that's going to be

29:41a major

29:43>> to to do that if it's under the stream

29:45bed where those where the granite is for

29:47the crossing.

29:48>> Yeah.

29:48>> Yes. That's going to be

29:50>> right

29:50>> not not simple.

29:51>> And we we had

29:54this has happened a couple years ago.

29:56They they found it when they came in. Um

29:59summer time was the best time to go up

30:00there while there was no flow in that in

30:02that seasonal brook to go up to do

30:04anything to maybe put a repair on that

30:06or something. Judges something for the

30:08time being. And uh

30:11even Nick said it didn't it wasn't that

30:14that much of a concern as far as

30:17collapsing, but to that they were going

30:19to monitor it and keep an eye on it. So

30:21>> Okay.

30:22>> I I think something that that we should

30:24keep an eye on, you know, send send the

30:26boys up with the camera and and

30:27>> Yeah, we should be able to get that. I

30:29know they they did some um easement

30:31maintenance, so we should be able to get

30:32the van down there.

30:33>> Yeah.

30:34>> To get [snorts] that done. just just to

30:36keep an eye on.

30:37>> It's been a while, too, since they

30:38looked at it. Be good to take another

30:40eyes on it.

30:41>> Yeah.

30:42>> I' Every couple of months I' I'd be

30:45taking a peek at that.

30:46>> Okay.

30:48>> Just to make sure cuz if that collapses

30:50and shuts off that easement.

30:53>> Yeah, that's understood. [clears throat]

30:56[laughter]

30:57>> Yep. Understood.

30:58>> That one won't be fun.

31:00>> Motion to adjurnn.

31:02>> We're all set. Make a motion.

31:05All in favor?

31:06>> I.

31:07>> Those opposed.

31:09>> Thank you, gentlemen.

31:10>> Thank you much.

31:16>> [music]