2026-11-04 - Common Council Study Session

00:27Yeah.

02:39>> I

04:51>> Ahora. Okay. Good afternoon. Can you

04:53hear me?

04:54Hello. Hello. Good afternoon, everybody.

04:58Uh it's 12:00. We're going to start our

05:00study session.

05:03And with that said, Councilor Williams.

05:09[laughter]

05:14Okay.

05:17Are we going to have any um

05:19appointments for

05:21Okay. So moving on, Councilor Caldwell.

05:23>> Thank you and blessings to all on this

05:26beautiful blessed day. I just want to

05:28tell everybody have a blessed and

05:30wonderful day.

05:31>> Same to you.

05:33>> I have item

05:35um 10

05:36through 12. Okay, let's go.

05:39>> Hello, council. Congratulations,

05:41councilor.

05:43Um

05:44Mike Mastersmith, human resources.

05:47So number 10 we have our annual

05:48agreement with Bond, Schoeneck & King

05:50for sexual harassment training.

05:52Um so the cost is not to exceed 12,000,

05:56but uh we should be able to come in

05:58beneath that.

06:00>> Which

06:01category of employees go through through

06:03this? Is it all or

06:04>> Everybody. Everybody from

06:06>> in the union

06:07>> Correct.

06:07>> Okay. Okay.

06:10>> Okay. Item 11.

06:11>> All right. Number 11 is an audit

06:13agreement with

06:15J Graham Incorporated.

06:17So this is an organization who is going

06:19to help us with

06:21claims and dependent audits on all of

06:23our insurance. So as part of our ongoing

06:25effort to clean up all of those issues,

06:27they're going to take a look at what

06:29we've been spending

06:31and try to find ways to save us money,

06:34recoup some money for us.

06:37There is a

06:39comment here about guarantees that are

06:41offered.

06:42As part of the agreement,

06:43they do guarantee $2 of return on every

06:46dollar of fee that we pay them.

06:49If they don't reach that, they'll reduce

06:51the fee that we owe them to make sure

06:53that it's a 2 to 1.

06:55>> Win win.

06:55>> I have a couple questions for you.

06:57Why did we waive the RFP and this is

06:59this the only company that does this?

07:01>> This is a company who's coming to us

07:03from a trusted group that we already

07:05work with. So they're associated with B

07:07Pass who are already a consultant for us

07:10on benefits issues and they came highly

07:12recommended from them. They've done work

07:14with them in the past and they were a

07:15trusted source to get that

07:16recommendation from. And also we really

07:19are trying to get this done quickly so

07:21we can have all of our data cleaned up

07:22and ready to go for the UKG

07:25go live in January.

07:27>> Okay.

07:27I think one of the things I read in the

07:30the backup paperwork is that they would

07:31also look to see if there is

07:34cases of people still on our insurance

07:36that are no longer with the city.

07:38>> Correct.

07:39>> How do we miss that? Like when we when

07:41we exit somebody, how do we miss taking

07:43them off our insurance?

07:45>> Sometimes it's a matter of individuals

07:47who have died and we haven't received

07:49notification. Sometimes it's a matter of

07:51divorce or some kind of change of status

07:53like that where we don't receive we

07:55don't receive direct information from

07:57the employee

07:58and we don't have any external source to

08:00let us know that a divorce has happened.

08:02>> Okay.

08:03>> Yeah.

08:03>> Do we have annual Do we have annual

08:05certification

08:07for employees? Cuz I know other

08:09companies do do

08:17>> Oh, open enrollment. Yes, that's going

08:19on right now. It started October 1st and

08:21will end November 13th.

08:22>> So how don't we how come we don't catch

08:24that while we do that?

08:26>> Once somebody retires, they're not

08:27required to renew. They're on the plan

08:31in perpetuity until they pass or they

08:33choose not to be on it anymore.

08:35>> Okay, but but open enrollment should be

08:37able to give us an update as to who's

08:39still available as

08:40then who should be able to help us

08:43know who's who's on the list and who's

08:46not, right?

08:46>> Oh yeah, absolutely. For for active

08:48employees, yes. It 100% does that for

08:50us.

08:51>> So I guess I just want to add one more

08:52question. Would there be a consequence

08:54if we had an active employee in the city

08:57that didn't tell us they were divorced

08:58and kept their ex

09:01on their insurance? Would there be some

09:02kind of a disciplinary action taken

09:04against that person?

09:06>> I am not aware of that happening, at

09:09least while I've been here, but it's

09:10definitely something to consider. I

09:12mean, I think that's

09:13>> I think it's something we should

09:14consider cuz I think that's basically

09:15fraud.

09:17>> Not basically.

09:20>> Mike, thank you. Um

09:21>> Of course.

09:22>> One thing I will do, I know uh you're

09:24new on this sort of position taking

09:26over, but we we do really want to make

09:29sure that we are um RPing out um

09:33any competitive bids so that everyone

09:35gets a chance to to know what's going on

09:38in our community. Um

09:39>> Of course.

09:41>> What before we cuz the next one's not

09:42yours, but question, do we hire yet the

09:46um um staff person for the retirees?

09:50>> We had our second interview yesterday.

09:51The first two candidates were fantastic.

09:53It's going to be a tough decision. Uh we

09:54have one more interview to schedule for

09:56next week, and then we are hoping by the

09:59end of the week after we'll have an

10:00offer out.

10:01>> Mhm.

10:02Thank you. Thank you.

10:03>> welcome.

10:03>> Thank you.

10:06Item 12, is that you, Janet? Oh, Janet.

10:11>> And Jason Laine from Exalt is here.

10:13>> and Jason. I've seen Jason twice today

10:15already.

10:16>> [laughter]

10:16>> Third time.

10:17>> Third time now.

10:18>> Janet Burke, the director of research.

10:20Now let Jason give you his

10:23spiel.

10:23>> Hello. Good afternoon, council members.

10:25So great to see so many of you again. Uh

10:27to reintroduce myself, my name is Jason

10:29Laine. I am the chief program officer of

10:30Exalt. We are a New York State based 501

10:343C uh that services young people ages 15

10:36to 19 who have been impacted by the

10:39criminal justice system um in academic

10:41advancement, increased employability

10:43through career exploratory internships,

10:45and avoidance of further interactions

10:47with the criminal justice system. We're

10:49entering into a year two of our funding

10:51and work with Syracuse. Um

10:53the council and Upstate, we have

10:54launched two cycles thus far um and I'm

10:56preparing to launch two more before the

10:58end of the calendar year,

11:00one of which starts next week and the

11:01last one that starts at the end of

11:03November.

11:05>> How many do you serve?

11:06>> So we have served so far 19 young people

11:09um through our first two cycles. Uh 12

11:11of which have been graduates, uh five in

11:13our first cycle and then seven in our

11:15most recent one, which graduated

11:17actually last week with our ceremony at

11:19Redhouse Arts Center.

11:21>> And what is the substance of the

11:22internships that you are providing to

11:23these folks?

11:24>> Great question. [clears throat] So we

11:25have partnered with many of the top

11:27businesses in New York um excuse me, in

11:29Syracuse uh including Hubert Brewer

11:31Construction, SUNY Upstate, uh Wilalace

11:34Law Firm, Community Financial Systems,

11:36La Casita Cultural Center, Erie Canal

11:38Museum, um Right Price Companies, and we

11:41continue to grow our internship partners

11:43uh particularly moving forward to that

11:45next two cycles.

11:46>> And have these internships led to

11:47full-time employment?

11:49>> Uh so still very early on um and so what

11:52we do have is our graduate internship

11:53opportunity. So our program does

11:55actually last two and a half years. Our

11:57core program is about four months, and

12:00then our alumni program is actually two

12:02years. Our component of that alumni

12:04program is our graduate internship

12:06opportunity, which allows our young

12:08people who have stellar uh core

12:10internships to go deeper into their work

12:12at those internship sites uh for 15 to

12:1420 hours a week over three months at $20

12:17an hour.

12:18>> And for the seven who haven't completed

12:20the program, what has happened with

12:21them?

12:22>> Yeah, so we had quite a few who had some

12:24safety concerns um in which they had

12:27unfortunately prior conflicts uh that

12:29interfered with their ability to

12:31complete the program.

12:32We are currently navigating a gender

12:34dynamic with our work. Um we had

12:38very few young ladies um young women,

12:40excuse me, one in each cycle who because

12:42of the gender disparity did not feel

12:44comfortable in the cycle. We're

12:45currently working with our referral

12:47partners to increase the number of young

12:49women in our program. And the reason we

12:51call them cycles is because young people

12:53are eligible for re-engagement in future

12:55cycles and we actually have three of

12:57those young people coming back for

12:59engagement in our cycle three or four.

13:02>> Jason, um anybody have any other

13:04questions? Go ahead.

13:05>> Because you said that you're getting

13:06ready to start a new cycle.

13:08>> Yes.

13:08>> So how many are calling cohorts? But how

13:11many are coming into this new cycle?

13:14>> So we we right now have accepted 10. We

13:16are looking to have 12 in this new

13:17cycle. So we're finishing up interviews

13:19this week.

13:22>> Jason, [clears throat] thank you again.

13:23I remember when we

13:24>> Yes.

13:25>> got this program going last year. So I

13:27have two question.

13:29I I take from the model they are all

13:31city

13:33city kids, right? Yes yes or no?

13:35>> Yes, they are.

13:35>> Okay. So they're all city kids.

13:38Um how is the relationship cuz one of

13:40the discussion we had last year was to

13:43find out if

13:45there's going to be a buy-in from

13:48local organization to be able to give

13:50these kids

13:51an opportunity considering that they are

13:54teens, you know?

13:55>> Yeah.

13:56>> Um how how's that been?

13:59>> Councilmember, it's been amazing. Um I

14:01think our internship partners have been

14:03our biggest partners. You know, these

14:05are organizations that have not

14:06typically taken on teenage interns.

14:09Huber Breim Construction is a great

14:10example of that. Well, Ladas Law Firm,

14:12Community Financial. And so a big part

14:14of our is having elevated internship

14:17expectations. And so these are finance

14:19institutions, large construction

14:20companies, um museums. And all of our

14:23young people that have gone into the

14:25internship phase phase have also

14:27completed. Um so we've been thrilled at

14:29the response that the business sector in

14:30Syracuse has given us. Um and we believe

14:33it's changing the narrative on what

14:34teenagers can do with elevated

14:36expectations in the business world. I I

14:38also want to point out this is the first

14:40time for all of our participants that

14:42they've actually been in the

14:43professional world. So this is their

14:44first job.

14:46>> Thank you, Jason. I know we had a

14:47committee meeting last week, so there

14:49was a lot of um questions that were

14:51answered and there might be a few more.

14:53Do you have another one, Joe?

14:54>> Transportation. How have you mitigated

14:56that?

14:56>> So transportation continues to be an uh

14:59issue that we continue to work through.

15:01Um so as everyone knows, New York City

15:03has spoiled us a little bit with our

15:05program services, having access to the

15:07MTA.

15:08Um our young people have intimated to us

15:11that in addition to not necessarily

15:13feeling safe with the transportation

15:15system in Syracuse,

15:17it is also not as reliable. Um and so we

15:19have committed to providing Ubers to and

15:21from program services as well as to and

15:23from internship and also for our alumni

15:26who are engaged in programming such as

15:28GED or graduate internships, they also

15:30receive Uber vouchers from us as well.

15:32>> Uh Jason, first I I want to say I want

15:35to welcome all the students are here and

15:38especially

15:40[clears throat] All right. I want to

15:43I had a question. We were talking about

15:45uh transportation. Are you are you

15:46giving kids

15:48uh the vouchers like if they want to go

15:50on a bus?

15:52Would that be helpful?

15:54>> It could be. You know, we're working

15:55right now with DCJS and some of our

15:57other external partners on potential

15:59transportation alternatives. Um we want

16:02to continue to expand the model here in

16:04Syracuse and serve more young people.

16:06As the council can imagine, doing this

16:08for a larger number of young people with

16:10Ubers every day can become prohibitively

16:12expensive. And so we're thinking about

16:14van services, um

16:16private car services to service just the

16:19but it's something that we continue to

16:21work out with some of our partners who

16:22know Syracuse and who dealt with this

16:23transportation issue before.

16:25>> Last one. What about college prospects?

16:27How How's that?

16:29>> So one of our success stories is one of

16:31our alumni from our cycle one

16:34is actually getting ready to finish his

16:36first semester at SUNY OCC. SUNY OCC has

16:39been a dedicated partner of ours from

16:40the start, specifically a stakeholder

16:43Dr. Reginald Braggs, who is the

16:45executive director of Central New York

16:47Partnerships. Our young people, four of

16:50them from cycle two, just came back from

16:51the SUNY OCC open house two Saturdays

16:54ago, and we actually have a joint info

16:57session with On Point for College

16:58happening with these four students next

17:00week.

17:01>> Just one quick one more quick one.

17:04[clears throat] You mentioned safety.

17:06How are you addressing the safety issue?

17:09>> So one of the ways we're addressing

17:11safety is also the number of young

17:13people that we have in each cohort.

17:15And so typically in our New York City

17:18programming, we go to 20 to 25 per

17:20cycle. Here we've capped it at roughly

17:22about 10 to 12.

17:24We continue to work very diligently with

17:26our referral partners, mainly the

17:28Department of Probations and Good Life

17:29Foundation, in getting any potential

17:31safety concerns from young people who

17:33are referred to the program ahead of

17:34time.

17:36Our first

17:36>> geography.

17:37>> The Excuse me?

17:38>> The geography of these young people.

17:41>> A large a large majority are coming from

17:43the East Side

17:45that have been referred to the program.

17:47I think the best way that we're

17:48mitigating it is to just keep our cycle

17:50small.

17:51We getting ready to launch two

17:52simultaneous cycles, so we'll be

17:54operating them on different floors with

17:56also staggered start and dismissal times

17:58so that young people don't necessarily

18:00interact and may have some pre-existing

18:02issues with each other.

18:03>> So you're you're saying and this one to

18:05help me understand this, you're saying

18:06they don't interact. So with this

18:08program, how do you plan to get these

18:11kids interacting with each other? Cuz

18:13that's the big issue for me.

18:14>> No, that's a great question. And so we

18:17do not build our cohorts based on where

18:19young people live. So we have young

18:21people from north side.

18:22>> they're

18:22>> coming from?

18:23>> We do know where they're coming from.

18:24Yes. You know, part of our model is also

18:26young people understanding that

18:28pre-existing issues should not

18:30complicate the opportunities that are

18:31presented.

18:33That's part of the transformation. Um,

18:35you know, young people are going to have

18:37affiliations and pre-existing

18:39relationships with people in our

18:40cohorts. How our model works is to get

18:42them to understand that those

18:44pre-existing issues should not

18:46complicate the opportunities. But I

18:48think the big way, council member, that

18:49we're mitigating that is not expanding

18:51to bigger cohorts and not necessarily

18:53until this time launching simultaneous

18:55cohorts where we have two groups in the

18:56same building.

19:00>> Anybody got any other questions?

19:02Thank you, Jason.

19:04Appreciate it. Janet, thank you. But

19:05before we go, I'm going to let my

19:07colleague

19:08introduce

19:09We have some students here. So go ahead,

19:12Marty. You got them.

19:13>> Okay. Thank you. Thank you, councilor.

19:15So I do want to welcome all the students

19:17that are here

19:19getting an example of what city

19:20government is all about and

19:23we have what? One person who's a Henegar

19:25Black Knight. We got any more?

19:28From a graduate? Got any Bulldogs in

19:30here?

19:34[laughter] Okay.

19:36We appreciate all of you.

19:37>> Keep going, Marty. You want to stop

19:39there?

19:39>> Yeah. So

19:40So if you're a Henegar Knight, stand up.

19:43Stand. Let's go. All right.

19:47[applause]

19:49If you're a Cocoa Beach Cougar, stand.

19:53All right.

19:55[applause]

19:56ITC?

19:59All right.

20:01[applause]

20:03Henegar?

20:06PSLA?

20:07Feller?

20:09All right.

20:10[applause]

20:12AND I'M SAVING THE BEST FOR LAST.

20:15>> [screaming]

20:19[applause]

20:21>> ANY STEAM STUDENTS? YEAH, I'M NOT. OH,

20:23STEAM. NO.

20:25Not yet. Not yet.

20:26>> Steam.

20:26>> I I have to say Rashida, we had a

20:28wonderful meet up at this morning. Thank

20:31you for coordinating that. And the

20:32students were amazing with their

20:34questions hitting hitting it on on

20:36housing, lead, growth, micron. Thank you

20:39for that conversation. You were great.

20:42>> Thank you.

20:44>> Okay. So with that said, welcome.

20:47>> All right. So moving on.

20:49Councilor Machock.

20:50>> Uh thank you Madam President. I have

20:51item 13 to 17. Who is taking the

20:56snow plow item?

21:00DPW?

21:06>> Ta-da.

21:13Hello. Good afternoon. Ann Fordock,

21:16First Deputy Commissioner, Syracuse DPW.

21:20So

21:21this line item

21:22is the plowing contract.

21:27Got to get to the right page. JSK Snow

21:29Services for the supplemental sidewalk

21:32snow clearing services,

21:34which I believe some of you were on that

21:36committee.

21:37>> Correct.

21:38[clears throat] Uh President and I will

21:40sit on it and

21:41>> well versed.

21:42>> And can you repeat [laughter] the words

21:44that you mentioned in there?

21:45>> Pardon?

21:46>> Do you What was the title of the

21:47program?

21:49The

21:49supplemental

21:51>> snow removal.

21:53Did I say

21:54>> You You said supplemental. I just would

21:55like you to expand upon that for a

21:57minute.

21:57>> what does supplemental mean?

21:58>> Yes, please.

21:59>> So it means that all of us, the city

22:01residents, we still are responsible for

22:03clearing our snow our side from snow and

22:06ice from our sidewalk, making sure it's

22:08safe and passable.

22:09But that we have the supplemental

22:11program on

22:12unique areas that are

22:15majorly determined by pedestrian traffic

22:17and schools.

22:18But it is not the entire city. And even

22:21if you are on that path, you still need

22:23to maintain your sidewalk

22:25you know,

22:26no matter what. So if uh if we didn't

22:29get 3 in, you would still want to keep

22:31that clear and passable.

22:33>> Thank you for that clarification.

22:35>> Okay, and I have a couple questions.

22:36>> Yes.

22:37>> Um

22:38can we get a map or a listing of the

22:40streets of what sidewalks are being

22:42done?

22:42>> I believe it's online, but we can

22:44certainly share it.

22:45>> Okay. If it's online, I can look it up.

22:47>> Yep.

22:47>> Same map as last year?

22:49>> I think so.

22:50>> The other question is um oversight with

22:53the sidewalks because last year we had a

22:55lot of problems.

22:57Um is there someone from your department

22:59that's going to be checking to make sure

23:00that this contractor is actually

23:02clearing the snow the way they're

23:03supposed to?

23:04>> Yes. And he he was

23:06you know constantly on that vendor last

23:08year, but then we had to get into legal

23:11means to remove the contract from that

23:14vendor and

23:15figure out how to replace that vendor in

23:18the middle of a season. So

23:19>> Okay. Thank you.

23:21>> And is there any is there a salting

23:23component as well or is it purely just

23:26snow removal?

23:27>> Yes.

23:28>> Yeah. You know we what we've have run

23:30into is

23:32>> Syracuse weather?

23:33>> Yep, Syracuse weather and you know

23:35packed and pressed snow turning to ice

23:38and snow getting scraped off the top of

23:40the ice, but then we never get to a

23:42passable sidewalk even with the program.

23:45>> Yes.

23:46>> So I think that's why we need to make it

23:47clear to residents, you're still

23:49responsible for your sidewalk, so if

23:51they clear it, get out and salt it.

23:53>> Yes.

23:54>> And I hate to bring up It's so beautiful

23:56outside. I don't know why we're talking

23:57about snow.

23:58>> We should be outside.

23:58>> messing up my whole

24:00mood. I [laughter] was in here feeling

24:01great. But um

24:04since we I mean it's not this, but it is

24:06this. So

24:07where are we with these

24:09drivers?

24:10I see a deputy mayor turned their back,

24:13so I don't know if you knew I was going

24:14to ask that, but um

24:16>> So we we need them. We need them

24:18desperately. Uh if you have anyone with

24:20a CDL that would like to come work for

24:21the city, we want them. We need them. We

24:23just switched to nights. Um

24:26so we're now doing two shifts.

24:28Um, but

24:30we we still need them. There's been no

24:32relief since the last time I talked to

24:34you.

24:35>> And are we Do we have a contingency plan

24:37if we move into winter 40 drivers down?

24:40What is that plan

24:4230 Well, we got 37

24:44>> 37 36 I rounded up.

24:47>> 38 How many drivers are we down do you

24:48know?

24:50>> I believe you are on the spot like

24:51between 35 to 40, but it it does change

24:54pretty much every day.

24:56>> To the good or to the bad? [laughter]

24:59Oh, wow.

25:01>> Apologize. I think the question was

25:03where we're at with

25:03>> Is there a contingency plan? I know the

25:05Cortland County announced that they had

25:07a shortage of drivers as well and there

25:08would be no snow removal after 5:00 p.m.

25:10Has the city thought about what our

25:12winter looks like if we're 40 drivers

25:14down?

25:14>> Mhm. So, I will say, you know, we appear

25:18to have uh an agreement, a tentative

25:20agreement with Local 400, so it should

25:22be going to vote soon.

25:24Um, so we hope that makes a dent. I

25:26mean, I think it's

25:28um

25:29we will

25:32I don't know that there is um

25:35we are

25:37exploring current city employees who are

25:40qualified and able to drive city plows.

25:43Obviously, we want those folks to be the

25:45ones that are hired

25:46to drive plows, but if there are other

25:48city employees that have the ability to

25:50drive city plows, we're exploring our

25:51options with them as well.

25:54>> So, when you say soon, uh Deputy Mayor,

25:56what do you mean like soon like

25:57tomorrow, next week?

25:59>> I would say probably within the week.

26:01>> Okay.

26:02>> Yes. For the for the for the contingency

26:05plan or for the label the Local 400

26:07agreement?

26:08So, I believe it's going to a vote with

26:10the membership not next week, but the

26:12week after

26:15to give them time to digest it.

26:19>> Are there questions?

26:20>> And so with that being with 400 on

26:22board, is 1773 on board as well?

26:24>> We are in mediation with them today,

26:26right now, just down the hall. So, I am

26:28running in between the council meeting

26:30and mediation to try and get that one

26:31settled as well.

26:36>> And

26:36[clears throat] for the for item 13, I

26:38know we we chose

26:40JSK

26:43among

26:44I think we had four.

26:45>> Three or four, yeah.

26:46>> Four, right? We had

26:47>> I was not on that with you, but I

26:49believe Jeremy was.

26:51>> We had four applicants and JSK for

26:55having the experience of doing this and

26:58then the the craziness we went through

27:00last time was trying what was new and it

27:03didn't work out for us, so we

27:05decided to stick with JSK.

27:08Okay.

27:09Item 14.

27:11Is that still UN?

27:13>> Yeah, 14. So this is an agreement with

27:15LAZ

27:16Parking for the operation and

27:17maintenance of city-owned parking public

27:20parking structures on behalf of DPW for

27:22one year.

27:25>> Any questions?

27:26>> I think at some point we had asked for

27:28information on LAZ about how what the

27:32what they're bringing in as total.

27:34Do we have that information?

27:36>> I do not, but

27:40Deputy Mayor, did you there was a

27:42follow-up question about LAZ that there

27:45was a previous request about LAZ's

27:49incoming revenue. Thank you.

27:51>> And I don't think we did we receive that

27:53data?

27:55>> [clears throat]

27:56>> This is for for parking garages,

27:57councilors? Okay.

28:06By garage?

28:08And fiscal year? Okay. We can get that.

28:11>> Do they do they give you a report on a

28:13monthly basis?

28:13>> Yes, they issue us a monthly report.

28:15>> Okay. That would be great if you could

28:17share it.

28:18>> Absolutely. Happy to.

28:19>> Corey, while you're up there, can I ask

28:21about this item?

28:24So we've got this contract

28:27not to exceed $1.1 million.

28:30>> Mhm.

28:31>> We're closing one of the garages, So

28:34we're we're reducing from four to three

28:37garages.

28:38>> Yes.

28:38>> And we're only looking at an $82,000

28:41reduction in what we're paying them. So

28:44we're we're talking about a 25% less

28:49demand, operational demand, but only an

28:51corresponding 8% reduction.

28:53>> Yeah.

28:54>> And I was wondering, you know, how that

28:56occurs. And then if we start to do the

28:58math out, if we're talking about $82,000

29:01operationally, then we get to a number

29:03of about $325

29:06thousand

29:08of operational costs. And then does that

29:10mean that we're looking at roughly, you

29:12know, $700,000

29:15overhead for the company? And if that's

29:18the case,

29:19what are they doing with that $800,000?

29:21>> Fair question. Yep. We can get a

29:23breakdown for that.

29:24>> Thank you.

29:25>> Thank you, Councilman.

29:26>> one question

29:28for Deputy Commissioner.

29:30Uh

29:31during the snow once the snow plow

29:33removal,

29:35we are pushing all of our snow against

29:38dead ends. We did it over the dead end

29:41of Pershing Ave, constituent on Green

29:43Lane Drive said damaged

29:46her fence.

29:49Uh the dead end of Grand Boulevard, the

29:51snow has been pushed there the dead end

29:54for many years. Uh we finally got our

29:57DPW crews and they had to

30:01uh repave

30:03uh the dead end of Grand Boulevard. So I

30:06want to know uh how we going to do

30:09the snow plow? Are we going to continue

30:11to push them into dead ends

30:14going back to

30:15back ending in the people's properties

30:17or we going to do something a little

30:19different?

30:20>> So some dead ends it is suitable such as

30:22my dead end. It's perfectly fine. It

30:24doesn't cause any problems. The ones in

30:26question, if you have any that you want

30:28to send to me, I mean, I can obviously

30:30go back to this recording and and write

30:32them down and check them out. But

30:34basically our two superintendents, we

30:37just need to stay on them and make sure

30:38that the drivers are trained and know

30:40which ones that they need to back drag

30:42the snow out to the main intersection

30:44and which ones that they can use as a

30:46dead end.

30:47>> If they do put the snow dead end, can

30:48they lift them up and get them out?

30:51>> usually it's back dragging it with the

30:53plow to make that happen. Uh cuz usually

30:56dead ends are pretty tight too. So

30:58there's not a lot of

30:59maneuverability there.

31:00>> All right. Thank you.

31:01>> So I I just want to follow up with that.

31:03So

31:05you said that they should know to do

31:07back dragging as well?

31:08>> It's it's a training issue. I mean

31:10obviously if you're a brand new driver,

31:12you're just learning how to plow, not

31:14remembering every single specific dead

31:16end that may have a unique situation. So

31:19it's something we have to remind them

31:20and sometimes it's a crew leader that's

31:22going to have to go and be assigned to

31:24that dead end to make sure it's clear.

31:27But

31:27>> had a constituent whose car was damaged

31:29from a plow and

31:32the

31:34snow had accumulated for days or weeks.

31:37So the the [clears throat] snow was a

31:39bank on the side. So their car was a

31:41little bit outward and that was their

31:43excuse that was given that her car

31:45wasn't near the curb, but there was snow

31:47near the curb. And this is not a dead

31:49end.

31:49>> the snow

31:51and the snow

31:52touched her car then essentially.

31:54>> No, the plow touched her car.

31:56>> The plow touched her car. Okay.

31:59So it was parked on the street. It

32:00wasn't in a driveway.

32:02Okay.

32:03>> Yeah.

32:03>> And one quickie before we leave. Um

32:05Deputy Mayor, question for you. When you

32:07run the numbers for last um could you

32:10run the numbers on last to see what

32:12we're doing how far what the shuttle is

32:15doing?

32:15>> For the shuttle?

32:16>> For the shuttle.

32:16>> Yes.

32:17>> And if you can send it to Nader.

32:19>> I will.

32:20>> Thank you.

32:20>> Thank you.

32:22>> Any other questions?

32:24Uh item

32:26uh 15.

32:32>> Good afternoon councilors. Mary

32:33Robinson, City Engineer.

32:35Item 15 is requesting to amend an

32:37agreement with CNS

32:39for a general service agreement for

32:41bridges, structures, and miscellaneous

32:43engineering.

32:44Um, we're asking to increase the amount

32:47to $1.1 million. That's an increase of

32:50$500,000.

32:52Um,

32:54a lot of this money we're going to use

32:55for doing

32:58the

32:59I've spoken about the James Street

33:01corridor project.

33:02So we're doing a dig less philosophy and

33:05adding some local betterments, and

33:08there's not enough tip funding. Some of

33:10the tip funding's not eligible for water

33:12main improvements,

33:14sewer work,

33:17work at the intersection. So

33:19for the local betterments, we're going

33:21to use this agreement to

33:23hire CNS to do that work so that the

33:26federal

33:28DOT agreement

33:30is separate so it's easier to track the

33:33local share from the federal share.

33:36And it's also be used for

33:38sometimes we have problems on our

33:39bridges and we use the CNS for bridge

33:42repair and any other structural

33:45work that we need done.

33:47So and our intent is to do RFPs for all

33:50our general service agreements this

33:51winter. So this is to hold us over and

33:54keep us going.

33:56>> I have a question.

33:58I'll hold on today.

34:00Mary, while you're here, you may not

34:02have the answer.

34:03Hot Water may will have to come to you

34:05too. There's a bridge behind Solar

34:09Street.

34:10It's not a city bridge. It's not a

34:12railroad. It's just a

34:15decorative bridge

34:17and I've been getting complaints from

34:19the residents over there that they've

34:21brought in the material to start taking

34:23it down.

34:24>> The the Trestle Bridge that's in front

34:26of Landmark Preservation.

34:27>> Right.

34:28>> Okay.

34:29>> So I'm trying to figure out

34:31why is that happening and is this a

34:33historical piece of property?

34:36Okay.

34:42>> Jake Deshaw, Deputy Commissioner of Code

34:44Enforcement. Um, the pedestrian bridge

34:46at 500 Plum.

34:47>> Mhm.

34:48>> Um,

34:49so

34:50that uh ownership uh

34:53about a year or so ago had engineers

34:55look at that um and

34:58you know, they deemed it unsafe so they

34:59blocked it off. Um, they're applying to

35:02demolish and rebuild it. Um, it's in the

35:05process right now under zoning review

35:07that includes landmark preservation

35:09review.

35:10Um, so that's where we are in the

35:11process. Um, the applicant has to

35:14continue to work with preservation and

35:16LPB um on the review before we'll issue

35:19a site plan approval for any demolition.

35:21So it's kind of on hold right now as we

35:23continue to work with them

35:25um on the future of rebuilding that.

35:27>> Cuz what I understand is they already

35:28have the permit for it.

35:30>> They

35:31they do not. So I can clarify that they

35:32do not.

35:37>> Thank you.

35:39>> Patricia, can can we get the appropriate

35:41capital account number before Monday?

35:45>> Uh, it's 15.

35:48>> 15 we um this is just authorization for

35:52the agreement for each project we

35:54provide which has a work order. Each

35:57work order [clears throat] gets um

35:59assigned

35:59>> that's when it gets assigned a capital

36:01account.

36:01>> All right.

36:04So there are multiple capital accounts.

36:05>> Okay.

36:07>> And we can't execute a work order

36:09without a capital account.

36:11>> Okay.

36:13>> Any other questions?

36:15Thank you, Mary. We are going to hold

36:17item 16 for a committee meeting. We are

36:19potentially looking at November 12th and

36:22it's going to be a joint committee

36:24meeting

36:25between Council Monto, myself, and

36:29everybody. Okay? So we'll hold that.

36:32Okay?

36:33Uh, item 7

36:35>> with the councilor?

36:35>> Uh, the 12th. November It's a Thursday,

36:38November 12th potential at 1:00.

36:40>> 1:00?

36:41>> 1:00.

36:42>> still tentative, right?

36:43>> Tentative. Yes. It hasn't been concluded

36:45yet, but that's what we're looking at.

36:47Okay?

36:48Um,

36:49item 17 is a resolution asking the state

36:53uh to step in. I think Commissioner

36:55Brandt, we should be happy for this. We

36:57are looking to see if we could get more

36:59funding toward lead. Um, uh we are going

37:04to

37:05uh probably be eligible to apply again

37:07to EFC next year, commissioner? You want

37:09to come up?

37:11Um, we owe 22

37:14.8 million dollars is going to run out

37:16potential in next year.

37:18And uh

37:19>> Good afternoon. I'm Commissioner of

37:21Water, Robert Brandt. Uh, I want to

37:23thank the council for putting this up.

37:26Um,

37:27we were doing some numbers the other

37:29day. So we're Syracuse and Buffalo is in

37:31a unique situation in the state of New

37:34York.

37:35Um,

37:36New York [clears throat] City may have

37:37more water, you know, lead service lines

37:39than we have, but they have one service

37:41line per every 36 people.

37:44We have one service line

37:46for every four people.

37:48So we're in a unique situation

37:50with with this. So the state we need to

37:53lobby the state for help to replace

37:55these service lines. And I know there's

37:57a couple things on on their agenda,

38:00Clean Water Act, that could help us with

38:02that. And hopefully, you know, with some

38:04new elected officials, we can move

38:06forward with that. And I want to, you

38:08know, congratulate Councilor Hudson on

38:10the great win.

38:12>> Yeah.

38:12>> And um I think this is great for us. You

38:15know what I mean?

38:16[applause]

38:17Thank you guys so much for

38:19hearing us, hearing our voice, that we

38:21truly need help to get this out of the

38:22way because we do want to be a lead-free

38:24city.

38:27>> Any other question or addition?

38:29Anything? [snorts] Okay. So the

38:30resolution will be on agenda for Monday

38:33and that will do it for me.

38:35>> Thank you.

38:35>> was quick, right?

38:37Anybody Anybody want [clears throat] to

38:38join in?

38:38>> Yes.

38:39>> Yeah, absolutely.

38:40>> I'd love to.

38:41>> Thank you.

38:42>> We need a people.

38:44>> [laughter]

38:46>> That was just five minutes. So

38:48they're good.

38:48>> Councilor Hudson for Councilor Aaron

38:50Reich.

38:50>> Yes.

38:52Councilor Aaron Reich has 18 through 22.

38:59Good afternoon. Sayesha Bird,

39:00commissioner of Syracuse Parks.

39:02>> Graduate from Was School.

39:04>> You know I'm a Falcon.

39:06>> I just wanted to let them know there's

39:07some Falcons here.

39:10>> At least At least, commissioner, at

39:12least there are two Falcons here.

39:13[laughter] Okay?

39:15>> Three.

39:16>> Three?

39:17>> Falcons Falcon

39:21>> NOT JUST A WHOLE BUNCH OF

39:22>> FALCON THAT YOU SEE SEE.

39:24>> [laughter]

39:25>> Few of us here.

39:28>> I have to correct number 18. It's a

39:30There's a error. It's not a application.

39:32It's actually to accept $300,000

39:35>> Oh.

39:35>> from um

39:36>> big one.

39:38>> How did we miss that?

39:51>> Yeah.

39:54>> Okay.

39:58>> Yeah, we already applied. We We actually

40:00got um

40:02if you all allow we we received We're

40:04going to receive $300,000 for Elmwood.

40:07>> All right. We'll follow up and make sure

40:08it's correct

40:09>> Thank you.

40:15So that That's improvement for the

40:17Elmwood um

40:20>> I'm sorry. Janet Burke, the director of

40:22research. So with the Dasny grants we

40:27it's a little different application

40:29process. They give it's

40:31given to us by a sponsor by a sponsor.

40:34So we didn't actually apply for it. It

40:35was given to us.

40:41>> Who's the sponsor?

40:42>> In the New York place.

40:44>> Sayesha, quick question on Elmwood Park.

40:47Um do you know when the anticipated

40:48redesign is next summer or?

40:52>> I would say spring.

40:53>> Spring?

40:54>> Yeah.

40:55>> I know not before my

40:56>> The bid the bid is next this week or

40:58next week. I'm going to the bid meeting

41:00so you'll be you'll know.

41:02She's at

41:04Council is asking about Homer Wheaton.

41:06>> Yes.

41:07>> Let's be clear so the students know.

41:09>> What what's the date?

41:11>> Is the bid is the pre-bid meeting so

41:13you'll hear more about that.

41:15>> Tasha, who's the sponsor on 18?

41:18>> 18 is Dasny New York Place.

41:21>> Right.

41:21>> What elected?

41:22>> What you're right.

41:23>> Ms. Joel.

41:26>> I'll get that answer for you.

41:28>> camera Rachel, right? It will be uh

41:30>> Yeah.

41:30>> 1806

41:32>> It will be Rachel this time.

41:33>> For Rachel.

41:35>> Yeah.

41:35>> Okay.

41:36>> Yep.

41:38>> Okay.

41:38>> I'm almost 90% sure it is.

41:40Um, so there is a 20% match for um via

41:44capital that we have um in the funds

41:46already. 19

41:49>> Here we go.

41:49>> is to accept from Tip Hill Association

41:52in kind donation of $31,945.75.

41:56They're they're um bricks engraved

41:59bricks, 260 of them to go um down to be

42:03laid in the existing um

42:07monument the Fallen Soldier monument

42:09that's currently there. They sold the

42:11bricks. They raised the money for it and

42:13so we'll work with contractors to lay

42:15those bricks.

42:16>> But who's who's um

42:18whose names are on them? Just community

42:20people

42:20>> community whoever donate this.

42:21>> Oh, okay.

42:22>> Yeah.

42:22>> Whoever donates the money.

42:23>> Yep.

42:24>> Huh?

42:26>> They purchase the bricks in in honor of

42:28they select whose name goes on those

42:30bricks.

42:31>> So the association

42:33picks the names.

42:35>> No, they don't.

42:35>> no, no. So like I donate the bricks.

42:38>> So if you wanted to buy a brick in honor

42:40of you could do that.

42:42>> Right.

42:43>> So I have no problem with that all at

42:45all, but we do need to have some kind of

42:48a system and process.

42:51We just, you know, anybody name we just

42:53be there and it might not fit with

42:56what should be, you know what I mean,

42:58without

42:59okay. But just moving forward, I mean,

43:01and that's at all the parks. I mean, I

43:02think it's phenomenal. I know um

43:05Patrona has a um what is it?

43:08The Waymakers and she does the same

43:10thing which is awesome.

43:12But maybe we should

43:14also just have some kind of so that we

43:16know who names are in the park.

43:18Like a bio like if somebody's going to

43:20put their name, we should know it's, you

43:22know, Saisha Bird, Haller Falcon Boys

43:26and Girls Club, you know, City Park. You

43:29know, there's something so we should

43:30know, right? If it's going to go in the

43:31park.

43:32>> So not to interrupt, but I believe the

43:33bricks are all being dedicated to the

43:35two police officers and then they're

43:37sponsored by whoever pays for the brick,

43:39but I think it's in honor of the two

43:41police officers, fallen police officers.

43:43>> We still should have in it who people

43:44are we're putting [snorts] them in

43:45there.

43:46>> And we'll [clears throat] get you a

43:47list. We can get a list of all the names

43:48on the bricks.

43:51Um number any other questions about that

43:53one?

43:53>> No, I think I think this is great,

43:55commissioner. Thank you.

43:57>> Um number 20 is agreement with the

44:00Central New York Regional Planning and

44:01Development Board to plant 3,200 trees

44:04in income eligible areas through June

44:085th, 2029. I do not have a list of those

44:11areas cuz obviously they we have a long

44:13time to get these planted.

44:15Um but it's a 100% reimburse

44:18reimbursable from the USDA Forest

44:20Service.

44:24Um 21 is the authorization of a

44:28intermunicipal agreement. This is for

44:30the Darren Tech.

44:32Typically we ask for this at the end of

44:34the year. We want to do this

44:36um at the beginning so that we

44:38understand how much money we have for

44:41this program. We normally ask at the

44:43end. It's just a bit easier to know what

44:45we have and to know we have that money

44:47to support this program.

44:49>> And thanks for getting those signs out.

44:51>> Yeah.

44:52Yeah, because ticks have been an

44:55Um, 22 um, to authorize payment to

44:58Georgia's Pro Sound Company because as

45:00you all know, the tree lighting ceremony

45:02will take place Friday, November 27th in

45:06Clinton Square. Um, it's the tree

45:08lighting event we host every year. So

45:10this is the for the sound and lighting

45:12spotlighting services for the tree

45:14lighting.

45:15>> I heard that um some of the councilors

45:17were going to have a duet that day.

45:20You guys are performing?

45:21>> I'm dancing.

45:22>> Are you dancing? You're going to ice

45:23skate for us?

45:24>> Wow.

45:25>> Yeah. Okay.

45:26Moving on. Moving on.

45:27>> Are you singing?

45:28>> No. Oh, no.

45:30>> [laughter]

45:31>> Oh, see.

45:34I'll send you all invitation. I won't

45:36announce that.

45:36>> Oh, boy.

45:37>> Cuz then it's on it's only four.

45:39But I'll I'll send you all a flyer for

45:41another event that we do in house. We

45:43started last year. I think you attended.

45:45Well, I guess so. It it is a

45:48uh for staff and city staff. So last

45:52year I started a

45:53the staff annual talent show. I thought

45:56it would be fun to bring some livelihood

45:58and fun to city staff. We all work hard

46:01and it's opportunity to laugh with each

46:03other and share talent. We had nine

46:05performers last year. Our hope is to

46:08build that. We're going to host it at

46:10Magnarelli um Center on December 10th at

46:13um 5:30 doors are open. Performances

46:16start at 6:00.

46:17>> That's dope. I like it. So

46:18>> You got to get my wigs ready.

46:19>> Come on. You got to There's a form. I

46:21will send you all the form. You can

46:22apply to perform. So thank you all.

46:25>> Thanks.

46:26>> Thank you.

46:27>> You're welcome.

46:27>> right, Councilor Hudson.

46:28>> Thank you. I have item 23.

46:42>> Afternoon, council. Uh Jason Thomas,

46:44director of analytics and improvement

46:46with the city. Um item 23 is to accept a

46:48gift from John Hopkins University uh for

46:51a number of city staff members to travel

46:53to Bloomberg for a conference um to

46:55connect with other municipalities and uh

46:57public servants to learn about

46:58innovation and things like that.

47:01>> Questions?

47:03>> [clears throat]

47:03>> Thank you.

47:05>> Had a great time.

47:07>> [laughter]

47:07>> Not too good.

47:09>> Thank you, Councilor Hudson. Councilor

47:11Moore.

47:12>> Thank you, Madam President. I have items

47:1324 through 28.

47:18>> Afternoon, Councilors. Deputy Chief Don

47:20Scipione, please. I have item 24. It's

47:22to accept various donations to support

47:25our one of our annual community outreach

47:28program, Shop with a Cop.

47:31Donations are not to exceed $15,000.

47:35>> How do you how many kids usually

47:37participate in this event?

47:38>> We're trying to get 30 and just for

47:40clarification, the kids are we try to

47:43target kids or request kids who have

47:45interactions with police officers who

47:46have been exposed to traumatic incidents

47:48or negative incidents throughout the

47:49year.

47:50And then additionally some pal kids and

47:53we've also reached out to the school

47:54district to nominate some children as

47:56well.

47:57>> Okay, thank you.

47:58>> Thank you.

48:08>> Excuse [clears throat] me. Good

48:09afternoon, Council.

48:11Elton Davis, First Deputy Chief,

48:12Syracuse Fire Department.

48:15We have items 25, 26, 27, and 28.

48:20They are requests for permission to

48:21apply for funding

48:23from the Greens Chip Green Chips

48:26Community Investment Fund.

48:28Green Chips Community Investment Fund is

48:30a 500 million

48:3220-year investment initiative

48:33established by New York State Micron. It

48:36supports four categories, workforce

48:38development, education, community

48:40investment, and housing.

48:42Our our request for funding are four in

48:46four areas, hazmat program needs and

48:49regional response capabilities,

48:51specialized training for our hazmat and

48:53technical rescue personnel, overtime

48:56backfill to maintain and while personnel

48:58attends required training and

49:01specialized tool and equipment for

49:02hazmat and technical rescue companies.

49:06As probably brought before, you know,

49:07the Syracuse Fire Department serves

49:08[clears throat] as a regional provider

49:10for hazmat hazm hazardous material and

49:12technical rescue responses for Onondaga,

49:16Madison, and Oswego Counties.

49:18Uh these responsibilities require

49:20special trained personnel, ongoing

49:22training, specialized equipment, and the

49:24ability to respond to incidents that

49:26exceeds the capabilities of traditional

49:28fire response.

49:31>> Chief, can we back up a minute? I don't

49:32want to skip through item 25 and just

49:35get into the training.

49:36>> Oh, into the training piece.

49:37>> Um

49:39so 25 we we're looking to spend 1 point

49:42we're going to get 1.75 million dollars

49:44in we're going to bond for

49:46>> Okay, so

49:46>> apparatus apparatus. My question is does

49:50the county chip in for any of this since

49:52we are the county's hazmat go-to?

49:56>> The original hazmat was purchased

49:58through county funds and part part with

50:01the city county funds, but

50:03over the last few years we have not

50:06received

50:07significant funding to support our

50:10hazmat. We do receive some funding for

50:14equipment, but for the maintenance and

50:16the purchase of that apparatus, none. So

50:19the

50:19>> So

50:20I

50:21Sorry to interrupt you again. I think we

50:22need to go back with that ask to the

50:24county because my understanding is that

50:27when Mike Gordon comes they're looking

50:28[clears throat] to you guys to be the

50:30main hazmat of the county and we should

50:33not be footing the bill for 1.75 million

50:36dollar bonding plus 2.75 million dollars

50:40on something that the county is going to

50:42be using

50:43>> Agreed.

50:43>> counts on.

50:44>> Agreed. Understand.

50:45>> I'm going to ask that we hold this for a

50:47committee hearing, but um I think we

50:49really need to have that conversation

50:51with the county.

50:52>> So we with related to I believe that was

50:54item 24 25.

50:57The other items are those those were for

51:00for funding funding for training. If I

51:03can go back, one of them was a $250,000

51:06for the hazmat technical training, which

51:09was a doesn't require a local match.

51:11Uh the second one was for uh overtime

51:14backfill for our fire fire for

51:16firefighters to go to that training,

51:18which is another $250,000. And the third

51:21was uh 250 $250,000

51:25to purchase uh tools and tools and

51:28equipment for our current hazmat.

51:30I would respectfully ask if those were

51:32ones that we could

51:34>> Those are for safety. Uh Janet, are you

51:36working with um Chief

51:39Are they Are you guys working

51:41>> Yeah.

51:42>> Yep. Janet

51:44>> [clears throat]

51:45>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.

51:46>> Yes.

51:48>> to try to figure out how we can get some

51:50>> Um just to let you know that also

51:52Council Moore just going forward with

51:55the committee meeting, the application

51:57is due in two

51:57>> come come to the mic.

52:02>> Janet, come to the mic, Janet.

52:03>> Come to the mic.

52:05>> So is 25 and 28 all mushed together?

52:08Or can we approve 26 27 26 27 28

52:13separately from 25?

52:15Cuz one is for training and one is for a

52:17vehicle.

52:19It's two separate things.

52:19>> The other three are not don't have any

52:22match at all, so they're just um

52:24>> I don't have a problem with those. It's

52:26just the vehicle itself, 25.

52:28>> Correct. It's the one that has the the

52:30bonding.

52:30>> Yep.

52:31>> Okay, so I think the other three but

52:33they they're all due in in two weeks. So

52:35just just to let you know.

52:36>> the vehicle. The one for the vehicle.

52:38>> Yes.

52:39>> So can we do the application and

52:40separate from the agreement?

52:43>> Yes. Well, we we apply and then

52:46they give us the agreement afterwards,

52:47so we can come back and

52:50and say that we can apply and not enter

52:52into the agreement till we come back.

52:54>> Okay.

52:54>> So so with the county portion, because I

52:57think what Council Moore is raising is a

52:59very is a very good point. Out of the 1

53:02point

53:03.75 million dollars,

53:06which is our match. What I think what

53:08you are asking, counselor, is that 1.75

53:11can the county ship in half of it?

53:14That's what you are asking. Can we

53:16>> I understand.

53:17>> So and then we wait until we get the the

53:19the the

53:20>> Sure. Sure. We can apply for the $1

53:23million. We'll just change the letter

53:25and say take out and enter into an

53:27agreement. And then we'll just apply for

53:29it. And then when that comes back and we

53:31get the contract, we can enter come back

53:33and enter into the agreement.

53:34>> But does the state need the upfront

53:36commitment of of the match?

53:39>> We need to find out

53:40>> it need?

53:40>> Yeah, I don't I don't think so. I'll

53:42have to check the application I sent out

53:43before.

53:47>> Okay.

53:47>> Well,

53:49I don't know about that one because we

53:50got where's deputy

53:53mayor?

53:56>> If you can get back to me and let me

53:57know

53:58>> know what I'm talking about. Eric, come

53:59come here.

54:00Hold on. I just have to ask him this

54:01question though.

54:04Remember the last that we applied for?

54:06>> million dollars?

54:07>> Yeah, there there was an EFC related

54:09submission. I I think the

54:11so counselor, just from the

54:12conversation, I know that the the

54:14requested item before you would be to

54:15apply, understanding the point about the

54:17agreement versus the application.

54:19I think that ultimately we can have the

54:21conversation with other I know the

54:22county's been referenced other partners

54:26to be able to reduce or eliminate what

54:29that match would have to be at the city

54:30level. But I think this would be to

54:31submit the application. And counselor,

54:33what we can really be doing is

54:34understanding that there's more than

54:35just the city that's being impacted

54:37here. What other sources of funds could

54:39then offset what the city normally would

54:41do through bonding?

54:43>> No, I get that part. But remember when

54:44we were you were saying that there was

54:46another step that needed been it was

54:48missing. So I don't want it. I'm just

54:50trying to make sure that

54:51>> Prevent the end this case. I think the

54:53biggest thing would be is there has to

54:54be us in a lot of these grant

54:56applications identifying where that

54:58match would be coming from,

55:00understanding that if other sources

55:02additionally can be identified to fill

55:03that, then

55:05that can reduce what the city

55:07contribution would be as a whole. So I

55:08think that the recommendation would be

55:10to still move forward with allowing the

55:12application to be submitted, recognizing

55:14that there is a match and then

55:16ultimately other sources beyond just

55:18this grant application could be secured

55:20to reduce what the city contribution is.

55:22>> But I I guess what I'm asking

55:24maybe I'm not I'm not hearing it

55:26correctly.

55:27But to be able to apply for this that's

55:29a $1.7 million

55:32grant match, do we need to upfront the

55:34bond before we apply or can we come and

55:38deal with that after the application?

55:39>> I'm [clears throat] sorry. I don't know

55:40the answer to the bonding, but I just

55:42did want to make clear this isn't a

55:44match per se. This is they'll give us a

55:47million dollars towards this vehicle in

55:49anticipation that the city or whomever

55:52is going to pay the balance. So this

55:54isn't we won't give you this money

55:56unless you unless you you know match it.

55:59It's just that they'll give us a million

56:01dollars.

56:01>> Okay. Okay. And then then when we come

56:03back with the agreement I guess the the

56:05the the ask is let's separate the

56:07agreement the the application and

56:09agreement because when the agreement

56:11come back

56:12we can deal with that, right? Okay.

56:15>> Sure. Have we had any discussions with

56:17the county?

56:19>> Not yet.

56:19>> Not yet. Okay. So

56:22>> This is where we would ultimately engage

56:23and have this discussion with them about

56:25this particular ask itself.

56:27>> And Chief, can I ask

56:29[clears throat] is this I don't have the

56:30document in front of me. Did you

56:32include this in the capital plan?

56:35>> I believe I believe we

56:37we have a apparatus replacement program

56:40and I believe that it has that hazmat is

56:44included in our apparatus replacement

56:46program which is in the CIP. I'm not

56:49I'm I'm not

56:51I'm not definite where what year it

56:53falls in, but I believe it is in our

56:55capital improvement plan.

56:56>> Perfect. Thank you.

56:58>> Thank you.

56:59>> Thank you.

56:59>> we're trying to move on because we have

57:01a ways to go in our agenda. But before

57:04we move on, I want to tell the fire

57:06department and the police department

57:09that your life-saving efforts.

57:12With the tragedy

57:13up off of

57:14Comstock,

57:16I want you.

57:17>> Thank you.

57:18>> I thank you very much for everything you

57:20do each and every day.

57:23>> I am.

57:23>> Yes, thank you.

57:29>> Just like that, today Council that the

57:32I'm pretty sure the police department

57:33and the men and women of the police

57:35department and the fire department

57:37appreciate that support.

57:38Thank you.

57:39>> I did check in with the fire chief to

57:42make sure everybody was doing all right,

57:43and he did avail them to the EAP, which

57:45I was happy to hear. So

57:47thank you.

57:48>> Thank you.

57:49Uh Councilor Williams.

57:50>> Thank you, Madam President. I have items

57:5129 through

57:5432 a little

57:55echo here. Um we're going to move 29. Um

57:58we can

58:00have

58:01a little update from legal counsel maybe

58:04Monday. I'm not sure. I I know that we

58:06roll into a meeting after here. It

58:07shouldn't take very long. Um but we're

58:08going to end up moving 29 um and then

58:11item 30.

58:12Michael.

58:18>> Good afternoon, councilors. Michael

58:19Lehman, deputy commissioner with the

58:21assessment department. Item 30 is just a

58:23request for a tax roll correction. Um

58:26six needs to be uh adjusted.

58:28They've been verified. Five sidewalk

58:30fees and one mowing charge.

58:34Any questions?

58:35Thank you. Thanks.

58:38Uh 31.

58:39America. [clears throat]

58:45>> Uh good afternoon, councilors. Evan

58:46Loving, budget director. 31 is an

58:48agreement with the downtown committee

58:49for uh annual holiday decorations. I do

58:51want to emphasize that the amount is

58:53over four year period. Um so it's 93

58:56that that roughly $94,000 over four year

58:59period. We provide the money to the

59:00downtown committee. They provide the

59:01services for the holiday decorations.

59:03And I know the executive director is

59:04here if there's any logistical

59:06questions.

59:07>> We'd love to hear from her instead of

59:09having you rush up to the mic to beat

59:10her out.

59:12>> [laughter]

59:13>> Hi, Erica.

59:13>> Hello. I'm Erica Tryer, executive

59:15director of the Downtown Committee of

59:16Syracuse. So,

59:18um as Evan said, these funds are already

59:20approved as part of this current fiscal

59:21year's budget. Uh we enter into a

59:24four-year agreement for the holiday

59:25decorations contract, and this is uh

59:27going to be different decorations than

59:28we've seen in the past. Uh this year

59:30we're going with a more of a snowflake

59:33star leaning into the city flag design.

59:36Uh so we'll have color and lighted

59:38decorations on Montgomery,

59:40Clinton, uh Warren, and Genesee Streets.

59:44Uh we've also flipped them over to be

59:46pedestrian side versus street side. So

59:48we're making an effort to try to make

59:50the pedestrian experience more walkable,

59:52increase uh increase connectivity

59:54between the different neighborhoods and

59:55business districts throughout downtown.

59:57And then also complementing this outside

59:59of the holiday decorations program, uh

1:00:01we've added some additional street tree

1:00:03lights to enhance Salina Street, connect

1:00:06some of the new parking assets with

1:00:08other parts of downtown, and are

1:00:09implementing some colored tree lights in

1:00:13the Perseverance Park area, which will

1:00:14be good for the holiday season, but also

1:00:16throughout the year to recognize

1:00:18different causes and add a little bit

1:00:19more activation to the center of

1:00:21downtown.

1:00:22>> Does the Downtown Committee own these

1:00:24items or is this

1:00:25>> Uh we own the street tree lights, but we

1:00:27do lease the holiday and seasonal decor.

1:00:33>> I never thought of the rental market for

1:00:36holiday and seasonal decor on our

1:00:39on our public assets. Interesting.

1:00:42Great. Thank you very much.

1:00:43[clears throat]

1:00:44>> you.

1:00:48>> Great.

1:00:49And then Madam Clerk, 32.

1:00:51>> 32 is

1:00:53kind of bid for stenographers that we

1:00:55use for public hearings, meetings, etc.

1:01:01That's pretty much it.

1:01:02>> Thank you.

1:01:03>> Thank you.

1:01:04Councilor Jones

1:01:13>> Good afternoon. Kate O'Outer, president

1:01:16president

1:01:17preservation planner

1:01:19for the city.

1:01:21So the city received a $5,000 grant for

1:01:24training. The Landmark Preservation

1:01:26Board is required to have training

1:01:28to be able to retain our our

1:01:31certified local government status.

1:01:34So we had a grant, a CLG grant, $5,000.

1:01:38We are now looking which we received.

1:01:41And now we have the heart of the the

1:01:43programming will be offered by the

1:01:44National

1:01:46Alliance of Preservation Commissions.

1:01:49And then we have a little extra money to

1:01:52be able to get just

1:01:55some

1:01:56some training from OHA as well as

1:02:00we're looking to have actually former

1:02:03member of the LPB but

1:02:06Bob Haley who's an architect registered

1:02:08architect to be able to

1:02:10just provide some basic training on

1:02:12reading architectural plans and

1:02:15and site drawings and so forth for the

1:02:18non-designers on the Landmark

1:02:19Preservation

1:02:21board.

1:02:23>> If

1:02:24in the future

1:02:27if

1:02:28some council members when it's also

1:02:30partaking that is that something that

1:02:32>> You can absolutely participate now

1:02:35in all that. Yeah, I will be happy to to

1:02:38send out the information about when and

1:02:40where the training will be.

1:02:42The NAPC training will be

1:02:46February and March.

1:02:49Bob [clears throat] Haley's will be in

1:02:50January and then I'm working right now

1:02:54on

1:02:56when to do the OHA

1:02:58historic tour. I'm actually also going

1:03:00to be doing a little session myself on

1:03:03the history of the preservation movement

1:03:04here in

1:03:06in Syracuse. So

1:03:08>> All right. And I asked that because I

1:03:09know that

1:03:11we deal with a lot of housing things

1:03:13that come through us, development, um

1:03:16that come through and for us to have

1:03:19understanding of, you know, preservation

1:03:21aspects and different um

1:03:24uh

1:03:25[clears throat] especially when we're

1:03:26talking about like encroachments and

1:03:28different stuff like that or what's on a

1:03:30property, we should we should, you know,

1:03:32have knowledge of those things.

1:03:34>> in happy to include you.

1:03:36Um yeah, absolutely. Uh and uh the

1:03:39training we're uh the the online

1:03:42training

1:03:43uh we can have up to 30 35 people uh

1:03:47involved. So I do want to make a

1:03:49correction uh that the the at the total

1:03:52amount is not to exceed 5,000

1:03:55um and that 4,500 actually goes to the

1:03:59NAPC for their training.

1:04:04Thank you.

1:04:15>> Jake DeShaw, Deputy Commissioner of Code

1:04:17Enforcement. Um item number 34 is

1:04:20permission uh

1:04:22for Visions Federal Credit Union to uh

1:04:26install an aluminum frame metal awning

1:04:29that's going to have a sign on it that

1:04:31encroaches 2 ft into the city on right

1:04:33of way at 153 Marshall Street.

1:04:40>> Questions?

1:04:43Thank you.

1:04:43>> Thank you, Jake.

1:04:45>> Uh Councilor Montano.

1:04:47>> Thank you, President Paniagua. Uh I have

1:04:48items 35 through 41.

1:04:57I'm Councilor Councilors Michael Lehman,

1:04:59Deputy Commissioner of Assessment.

1:05:01Um item 35 department is requesting a

1:05:03local law um to the city of Syracuse

1:05:06authorizing the sale of the property at

1:05:09571 to 581 East Genesee Street,

1:05:12otherwise known as the Sydney Johnson

1:05:13Vocational Center.

1:05:15>> So

1:05:17Eric, do to come up for this one too?

1:05:21Just because I want to make sure that I

1:05:22understand this one and everybody else

1:05:24gets the information. So that we're

1:05:26going to sell it for 1.5 and minus the

1:05:29demolition costs. You have a ballpark of

1:05:31the demo costs?

1:05:32>> I think the

1:05:34what we would do is ultimately work with

1:05:36the purchaser on the final costs of

1:05:38that. So I think one of the things we'll

1:05:39work through is it will be less We

1:05:41anticipate it would be less than the 1.5

1:05:43million dollars in acquisition, but

1:05:44ultimately that'll be dependent on how

1:05:46those bids come back for the demo

1:05:47contractor.

1:05:49>> So so basically

1:05:51if it costs 1.5 to demo it

1:05:54and we're selling it to 1.5 we're not

1:05:56making any money on the sale of that

1:05:58property.

1:05:59>> They're um what ultimately is part of

1:06:02the conversations, councilors, we've

1:06:03included um a minimum that the city

1:06:06would receive if in the event the demo

1:06:08costs came in higher than anticipated so

1:06:10that the city would be able to benefit

1:06:11financially from the sale. So we we did

1:06:13account for that as part of the

1:06:14conversations that were um were taking

1:06:17place so that a portion um to be able to

1:06:19have a minimum of what the city would

1:06:21realize as part of the the sale.

1:06:23>> And it goes back on the tax rolls with

1:06:24138 units of housing. Is that the goal,

1:06:27right?

1:06:28>> What is the um what is the units? What

1:06:31is the size of the units?

1:06:32>> So it is going to be a combination of

1:06:34one, twos, and uh three bedroom units I

1:06:37think are included as part of the

1:06:38proposal. So there is there's a mix

1:06:40included as part of the pro forma.

1:06:42>> Okay.

1:06:42>> We can provide that information too,

1:06:44councilor.

1:06:44>> I don't want to make sure that there's

1:06:45three three bedroom units included as

1:06:47well, but I don't understand why we

1:06:49would be paying for the demo.

1:06:51I'm not I don't understand that.

1:06:53>> Uh one of the things ultimately is that

1:06:55the clearance of the building is is one

1:06:57of the things that's a barrier towards

1:06:59the redevelopment of the site, but it's

1:07:01one of the things that as part of the

1:07:03overall um proposal that came back we

1:07:06were you know as part of the discussions

1:07:07back and forth with the bidder um

1:07:10ultimately in order to help offset that

1:07:12cost of the demolition we were able to

1:07:14build that in as part of the purchase

1:07:15price again with a minimum um amount

1:07:18that the city would realize as part of

1:07:19the sale.

1:07:20>> Are we giving Oh, sorry. Are we giving

1:07:22them any tax breaks on addition to that?

1:07:25>> There hasn't been any formal application

1:07:27for the project. They ultimately would

1:07:29be seeking assistance at the state level

1:07:31for the mix. It would be a combination

1:07:33of market rate as well as affordable

1:07:35housing included as part of the project.

1:07:37And then ultimately

1:07:39whether it would be a potential shelter

1:07:42rent agreement or potentially a pilot

1:07:44through the IDA. That's ultimately those

1:07:46are things that are being considered as

1:07:48part of the overall project, but no

1:07:49applications have been submitted.

1:07:50>> This Penn Rose, this is the group that

1:07:53has has

1:07:54done the development for majority of the

1:07:56East Genesee properties, correct?

1:07:58>> Penn Rose is a this is the same

1:08:00developer that is undertaking the Maria

1:08:01Regina campus project.

1:08:04Um, they they have not done any projects

1:08:06to the east that I'm aware of.

1:08:08>> Um,

1:08:09what was I going to say? Um.

1:08:14>> I would like to know a little bit more

1:08:15about this.

1:08:17Eric, this is a I mean, there's a lot of

1:08:19questions which I don't want to take up

1:08:20today about it, but I would like to

1:08:22>> Yeah, and just to be clear, Eric, so you

1:08:24know, we're we're sitting here with the

1:08:25problem that it gets put back on the tax

1:08:27rolls, but you're saying we have to

1:08:28approve this before they can potentially

1:08:30apply for tax abatements through you

1:08:32know, a variety of entities including

1:08:34this body. And so we have to say, okay,

1:08:36sure, go ahead, and then we find out

1:08:37after the fact that it can get removed

1:08:38from the tax rolls.

1:08:41>> Sure. It I think it's one of the things

1:08:43>> Sure.

1:08:43>> No.

1:08:44No.

1:08:45>> [laughter]

1:08:45>> I think um so Councilor, what we can do

1:08:47is we can we can share more information

1:08:49ultimately. And I I think what um I'm

1:08:51just I was thinking through again your

1:08:53your question is that there is initially

1:08:57sources and funding that they've

1:08:58identified as part of the redevelopment.

1:09:00Um, it is you know,

1:09:02the vast majority of the projects that

1:09:04are undertaking new construction within

1:09:05the city of Syracuse are including

1:09:08either the shelter rent structure or a

1:09:10pilot. Um, and that is that has been the

1:09:13vast majority of the development taking

1:09:14place, but that is more of a

1:09:15>> we ever get to a point that we don't

1:09:18give away our tax base?

1:09:22>> This is this is certainly for projects

1:09:24across the city and Syracuse is not

1:09:25alone in this, but there is a series of

1:09:27different challenges and that some of

1:09:29these tools and resources are key in

1:09:31terms of being able to reach development

1:09:33and being able to have projects break

1:09:35ground.

1:09:36So the the vast majority of the projects

1:09:39that are underway or being completed

1:09:41are able to to leverage and utilize some

1:09:43of these tools, some of which the city

1:09:45has at its disposal to be able to make a

1:09:47reality. But happy to certainly have

1:09:49more of a conversation about this, but

1:09:51also we're happy to have a committee

1:09:52meeting on this project.

1:09:53>> I have one one question.

1:09:55>> Yeah, um please.

1:09:56>> The um

1:09:57this RFP was this a part of the original

1:10:02first set of RFPs?

1:10:04>> It was. Yeah, so for the Johnson

1:10:05Vocational Center it was part of the the

1:10:07other the additional properties as well.

1:10:10>> And at some point, Eric, I mean I'm I'm

1:10:12I'm hearing everything my colleagues are

1:10:14saying because I think we do need to

1:10:15have more conversation on this. But at

1:10:18what point do we stop doing affordable

1:10:22affordable and mixed rate and the low

1:10:24income community is being left out in

1:10:27the cold? When are we going to start

1:10:28looking at low income units?

1:10:31>> And when I say affordable council that's

1:10:34including a range of income. So that can

1:10:36be uh 30% 60% of AMI up to 80%

1:10:40ultimately in that range, but then uh

1:10:42the ability to incorporate as well going

1:10:44higher than the 80% so with this this

1:10:46project would entail a range of

1:10:47different incomes mixed in.

1:10:49>> that it has to be a part of?

1:10:51Because I think it was what 20%?

1:10:54>> So the zoning ordinance for any standard

1:10:56project that has more than 20 units

1:10:58there is a requirement to build in

1:11:00affordable. What this is talking about

1:11:02would be more of these 138 units that

1:11:04are being proposed, the vast majority of

1:11:06these would be affordable units built in

1:11:09as part of the project. So

1:11:10>> Affordable but not low income.

1:11:12>> Affordable and low income.

1:11:14>> okay?

1:11:14>> Yeah.

1:11:15>> Low income and affordable are two

1:11:17different things.

1:11:18>> Okay.

1:11:19>> Is the AMI based on the city of Syracuse

1:11:21or New York in general?

1:11:23>> This is based on the city of Syracuse

1:11:25and

1:11:25>> It's based on the county the like the

1:11:27entire county, not just Syracuse.

1:11:29>> That's correct. Yeah. So, Onondaga

1:11:30County, those income ranges, those are

1:11:32set and those are, you know, these are

1:11:34standard and set across the federal

1:11:36government and HUD utilizes these as

1:11:37well, but it's based on the area median

1:11:39income of Onondaga County.

1:11:41>> that doesn't really help our city

1:11:43because the AMI in our city is much

1:11:45lower than it is in the county.

1:11:46>> Yeah.

1:11:47>> I mean, you know, I work in workforce

1:11:48development every day. People are not

1:11:50making more than $35,000

1:11:52a lot of people in this city because

1:11:55they're making minimum wage. And we

1:11:57really need to, when we look at the

1:11:59homeless population that we have in the

1:12:01city, we really have to look at

1:12:03why are they homeless? And a lot of them

1:12:05because they're working and they can't

1:12:06afford a place to live.

1:12:08So, I think we really need to be more

1:12:09intentional about getting low-income

1:12:12housing as Councilor Hudson has said.

1:12:15And I think Councilor

1:12:17Rowser has said as well,

1:12:19we're leaving out a huge population in

1:12:21our city, and we need to start turning

1:12:23that around.

1:12:24>> So just, Councilor, to respond to what

1:12:26you're saying that where there's been a

1:12:27limit to the number of affordable and

1:12:29low-income units that have been built

1:12:30within the downtown area. This is one

1:12:33way, this is one project that has the

1:12:34ability to do that and we can share that

1:12:36information, but the vast majority of

1:12:38these units that are being proposed that

1:12:39would be built would be in that

1:12:41low-income range and would be funded

1:12:43through the low-income housing tax

1:12:45credit program to be able to provide

1:12:47more low low-income housing within

1:12:49downtown.

1:12:50>> Eric, we'll have a committee meeting on

1:12:51this one.

1:12:53>> Sure. Okay.

1:12:54>> Thank you.

1:12:55>> All right. Moving on.

1:13:05>> Afternoon, Councilors. Camoin Jordan,

1:13:06Director of Housing and Neighborhood

1:13:08Planning. Item 36 was a request to use

1:13:11$35,000 in cash capital to support

1:13:14releasing an RFP for a project

1:13:16coordinator. They would be supporting

1:13:17the Taylor Street mural project,

1:13:20which would majorly major majorly

1:13:22majorly be funded from CNI funding in an

1:13:25amount of $395,000.

1:13:27So the $35,000 would allow us to

1:13:29identify a coordinator that would lead

1:13:31efforts in identifying artists,

1:13:33conducting community engagement, and

1:13:35then the 395,000 would go towards actual

1:13:38build out paying the artists, etc.

1:13:42>> Is the plan to use the Public Arts

1:13:43Commission to try to tap into their

1:13:44database for the artists? Is that what

1:13:46the Okay. Okay.

1:13:47>> And we've presented the comment the

1:13:48project to the Public Arts Commission so

1:13:50far. They love the concept. They enjoy

1:13:53the French cleat system that we're using

1:13:55to install the artwork. They said as we

1:13:57have designs, we need to come back and

1:13:59represent before them so that they can

1:14:01give final sign off.

1:14:03>> What's the French cleat? Is that Is it

1:14:05not going to be on the wall?

1:14:07>> It will be on the wall. So, we'll

1:14:08install almost a metal bar and then the

1:14:10artwork will have kind of metal clips on

1:14:12the back that can snap into the system.

1:14:14>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Okay.

1:14:15>> feedback we got from the rail line is

1:14:17that they need to be able to conduct an

1:14:18annual inspection. So, that'll allow us

1:14:20to have skilled trades kind of snap off

1:14:22the artwork, have them do the inspection

1:14:23and reinstall.

1:14:25I think long term that also gives us the

1:14:26opportunity to switch out the artwork.

1:14:28So, if in the next 5 to 10 years we want

1:14:30to bring, you know, more folks together

1:14:32to redo the design, we have that

1:14:33opportunity.

1:14:35>> How much of the Taylor Street wall is

1:14:37it? Is it the entire wall?

1:14:39>> So, this funding will might not get us

1:14:41through the entire wall, but it will

1:14:43allow us to start. I think there are a

1:14:45total of 89 panels from South Salina

1:14:48Street all the way to Townsend Street.

1:14:50Um our goal would be to give each artist

1:14:52three panels and then have a few panels

1:14:54for community artwork where maybe we'll

1:14:57partner with Dr. King and have students

1:14:59take part in some of those designs.

1:15:06>> Okay. Any more questions?

1:15:08>> Thank you, councilors.

1:15:09>> Thanks, Comeon.

1:15:19Okay.

1:15:20Back for the last time. Jake Dishaw,

1:15:22Deputy Commissioner of Code Enforcement.

1:15:25Item number 37 is a special use permit

1:15:28for

1:15:30used auto sale lot and offices at 2030

1:15:34Erie Boulevard East.

1:15:36It will not include any type of auto

1:15:39repair at all.

1:15:42>> Jake, and they're putting the That's a

1:15:43It's a CPA, right? Or was?

1:15:46>> Uh it's a two-story office building. I

1:15:48don't know what was in there before or

1:15:50what else was in there.

1:15:52>> Is Is it vacant right now?

1:15:53>> Uh

1:15:55portions of it, yeah.

1:15:56>> Okay.

1:15:57Are they going to fence that lot?

1:16:00>> Um there are not plans for fencing right

1:16:03now, I don't think.

1:16:04>> open?

1:16:07>> While we on the auto stuff, can you have

1:16:09someone go by Furman and Salina Street

1:16:13because they're back putting cars

1:16:15on the sidewalk portion?

1:16:17Um let alone it's 1,000 cars over there,

1:16:20but um they're they're

1:16:23from curb to the

1:16:25full lot.

1:16:26There's They're on the sidewalk.

1:16:28>> Okay. Got it. Furman and Salina.

1:16:34Um item number 38 is a zone change that

1:16:37was from a companion resubdivision

1:16:40approval.

1:16:41Um so this is what I've kind of framed

1:16:43as map maintenance to uh the council. Um

1:16:47the resubdivision created a split zone

1:16:49parcel and

1:16:50uh to prevent that um

1:16:53requesting a map amendment change.

1:16:57>> This is to reduce it from three to

1:17:00one?

1:17:01>> Uh yes.

1:17:03>> So it'll be single They're looking to

1:17:04build single family homes there?

1:17:07>> Correct.

1:17:08>> Okay.

1:17:11>> 39?

1:17:12>> 39 is pretty much the same thing uh in a

1:17:14different location uh on Midland.

1:17:17Um

1:17:19and again, it was from a lot alteration

1:17:22uh that created the split zone parcel.

1:17:25>> I'm not understanding this one. Um

1:17:31is there a Is there one person who owns

1:17:34two properties?

1:17:35Because isn't there two houses there?

1:17:40>> Um I'll have to look at the details.

1:17:43>> The thing is like

1:17:51I don't think there's a empty lot there

1:17:53is what I'm

1:17:55saying so I'm not sure.

1:18:01>> I can look at it with you after this.

1:18:04Is there It looks like Is there a lot in

1:18:06between it? It could look 2125 2131 Is

1:18:09there another

1:18:10vacant in between those two?

1:18:12>> Is it something that's behind the

1:18:13property?

1:18:16Is it behind the properties?

1:18:18Cuz

1:18:19>> Not that I recall but I I can look at

1:18:21the map with you. Um I Sorry I don't

1:18:23have it in front of me.

1:18:25>> Okay. Well

1:18:25>> Oh it is. It's a side. It's a side but

1:18:27you're on a It's

1:18:29Yeah it's the side lot

1:18:32behind the houses.

1:18:34>> Yeah so how does

1:18:36How do they get merged is what?

1:18:39>> We'll grab you offline Jake so you can

1:18:40show us [clears throat] the map.

1:18:43Thank you.

1:18:45Uh item 40 is a resolution recognizing

1:18:48the 100th anniversary of the annexation

1:18:50of Eastwood.

1:18:53Um

1:18:54I was there for that.

1:18:57Uh 41 is um

1:18:59>> Madam E on to the resolution.

1:19:01>> Oh

1:19:02Everybody else too?

1:19:03>> Yes of course.

1:19:04>> Everybody on 40 Madam Hurst?

1:19:06>> We are.

1:19:07>> Uh item 41 is a local law um

1:19:11that we if we want to participate in we

1:19:14have to opt in to 458 in the assembly

1:19:16and the senate which is providing a 100%

1:19:20um tax exemption for 100%

1:19:24disabled veterans. Mike you want to

1:19:27walk us through the basics?

1:19:29>> Yes thank you counselor. Michael Lehman

1:19:31deputy commissioner of assessment.

1:19:33Um the the state and subsequently the

1:19:37county um have uh passed this

1:19:40exemption uh to certain veterans who

1:19:42have a permanent total disability

1:19:45as determined by the Department of

1:19:47Veteran Affairs.

1:19:49Veterans eligible can apply for this

1:19:52this exemption which would exempt them

1:19:54100% from ad valorem property taxes.

1:19:58And the Department of Assessment is

1:19:59requesting

1:20:01that the council approve a local law

1:20:04as Council member said opting in to also

1:20:07offer this exemption to eligible

1:20:08veterans.

1:20:14>> I'm all set.

1:20:15>> All right. That brings us to the end of

1:20:18our meeting. So motion to adjourn.

1:20:20>> So moved.

1:20:21>> All in favor.

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