2026-09-09 - Common Council Study Session

04:30Where have you been?

04:56You see, there are good Samaritans in

04:59this world. Good afternoon, everybody.

05:02Thank you for joining us. and we're

05:04about to start our

05:07session. Um, let's see. What do we got?

05:16>> No Monday.

05:18>> All right. There's no um petition. Oh,

05:21that's for Monday. Communications is for

05:24Monday. All right. So, let's go right

05:26into unfinished business. Uh we will

05:29have a committee meeting on Friday at

05:3212:30 to discuss the uh charter changes

05:36with Evan.

05:39Evan, you'll get an email about that in

05:41a few minutes. [laughter]

05:43Okay, moving on. Are there no

05:49>> no resolutions? Approving approving

05:51birth. None of that. Okay.

05:53Uh who's taking council Cadwell? Are you

05:55doing that? Patrona.

05:58Are you in her committee?

06:01>> I didn't get a call, but I'll take it.

06:03>> Okay.

06:04>> All right.

06:05>> Are you in the education committee?

06:06[clears throat]

06:08>> Yes.

06:08>> Yeah. Okay.

06:14>> Okay. Yeah.

06:15>> 216. [laughter]

06:16>> Okay. All right. Thank madam president

06:18on behalf of

06:21>> of uh councelor Cwell have items 11 and

06:2412.

06:25>> Um so uh good afternoon counselors.

06:27Corey Dunham, Deputy Mayor. Um, items 11

06:31or 12 are linked. This reflects a labor

06:35agreement that we've reached with the

06:36trades union.

06:38Uh, the payment is retro to January 1st,

06:44which is why we need the local law to

06:47reflect the prior fiscal year.

06:55>> Right.

06:57Correction is 25

06:58>> 25 26 not 2020 21.

07:03>> Okay. Are there any questions?

07:04>> I'm sorry. It's 25 26 not 26 27

07:07>> not 21 not 2021.

07:09>> So for item number 11 it should amend

07:11the 2526 city budget not the 202021.

07:15>> And right now it stands 2021. Yeah

07:19>> that's what we thought too. [laughter]

07:21>> Um any any

07:26update on DPW.

07:28>> So, we are in mediation today with local

07:30400, which is why Rick Alce Scever is

07:32not here to speak to the TA.

07:34>> Okay.

07:36>> All right. Any questions?

07:39>> Okay. Thank you.

07:40>> Thank you, counselors.

07:41>> Council Councelor Maj.

07:45This is uh on behalf of Council Mook.

07:47This is uh an installation of honorary

07:49street signed for Mark Cass on Mark

07:51Cassway. And I believe that's set to go.

07:53if there's no other questions.

07:55>> Well, he held it last time, so I don't

07:57know if the changes that he wanted to

07:58input in there, but he'll know.

08:00>> We'll ask in between, but yeah, I think

08:02he found the right.

08:03>> We'll know one day.

08:05>> It was about how many streets would be

08:07included or something like that.

08:08>> There was something in here. Yeah.

08:10>> Uh, councelor Moke has items 14 through

08:1224. Owen,

08:15>> good afternoon. Counselors Owen Kernney,

08:17um, planning and sustainability

08:19division. Uh, item 14 is to authorize an

08:23environmental easement at 1410 Erie

08:26Boulevard. This is a city-owned

08:28brownfield site that we are working with

08:31um New York State to clean up to

08:34remediate and as part of that agreement

08:36we must um put an environmental easement

08:40on the site which we're supportive of to

08:42identify moving forward here's basically

08:45the remediating the the cleanup system

08:48that's in place must be maintained. Uh

08:51so this is just also authorizing that

08:53it's ultimately um good news for the

08:55site once the remediation is complete

08:57next year. Um you know we could

09:00potentially redevelop it or use it for a

09:03higher and better use. So this is a step

09:05in that process.

09:08>> Thank you.

09:09>> Thank you.

09:12>> So he's here.

09:13>> Yeah.

09:14We just did 14.

09:18>> Go ahead Mary. Good afternoon,

09:21councilors. Mary Robinson, city

09:22engineer. Item 15 is accepting a lining

09:26of a 15-inch combined sewer and two

09:28manholes along the 1300 and400 block of

09:31Highland Street uh as part of the Maria

09:34Regina Apartments project uh in order to

09:38meet their one-on-one sanitary sewer

09:40offset requirement from the county.

09:44No cost to the city.

09:46Um and we are holding a refundable fee

09:50to make sure that they perform the work

09:52needed.

09:56Item 16 is sim very similar except it's

09:59a lining of a 12-in combined sewer and

10:01three manholes along the 400 or the 100

10:04block of foreman a as part of the

10:07gateway Syracuse apartments project. Um

10:10this is also to meet the one-on-one

10:12sanitary sewer offset requirement by the

10:14county.

10:20Thank you.

10:22>> Item 17, I'm requesting an amendment for

10:26CNS companies. We have a general service

10:29agreement with them. We're asking to

10:31amend the agreement to increase it by

10:321.6 million for a total cost not to

10:35exceed 6.6 million. Um, we have a few

10:40major projects. uh the Schiller Park

10:43project with Magnarelli grant and the

10:46fire maintenance garage and then there

10:48are also some other smaller projects but

10:51these projects fees would be paid for

10:55out of existing capital funding for

10:58those projects.

11:01>> Do we think the 6.6 is going to be

11:02enough to cover it all of that or we

11:06mystery right now?

11:11I got it. We're silenced. We're good.

11:14We're good. I got it.

11:15>> To be determined. What what our plan is,

11:17we're running out of funding in these

11:19two account, these two contracts, and

11:21we're using them for a lot of projects.

11:23So, I'm requesting to amend the

11:25agreement so that we can continue to

11:27proceed with these big projects. And

11:30then we're over the winter, we're going

11:32to put out some RFPs for all our general

11:35service agreements. So,

11:37>> so this is really to hold us over until

11:41like first or second quarter of next

11:43year.

11:43>> In in the leadership meeting we just

11:45had, we discussed that it was only going

11:47to be for CNS

11:49>> CNS will include homes or or no

11:52>> no home. That's a typo.

11:54>> What's a typo? Home

11:56>> homes. So, it's only for CNS companies

11:59in item 17 and item 18 is similar.

12:04>> Wait, hold on. Hold on. And for the 1.6,

12:06It comes the money comes from the

12:08multiple from different capital

12:10accounts. Yeah.

12:10>> Okay. All right. Thank go ahead.

12:13>> If there's no funding then we don't do a

12:15work order. That's how these agreements

12:16work.

12:17>> Okay.

12:18>> Mary, did we have a breakdown? I know

12:20it's not in this book, but did we have a

12:22prior breakdown of those uh buildings in

12:26the scope of work? Do we have anything?

12:29>> We don't have anything firm from the

12:31consultants, but I kind of just did an

12:33estimate of what I would think I would

12:35need. That's how I came up with these

12:36numbers.

12:37>> Okay. And then there there's a little

12:39bit of, you know, contingency for

12:41smaller projects for DPW and others.

12:44Okay.

12:45>> So So Mary, just just a slight slight

12:49request. So it says in in the letter

12:51that when when this go get going that

12:54they will issue the new RFP, right?

12:57>> Yes. This winter we will issue new RFPs.

13:00>> Right. Could we just make sure when we

13:01do that when we come back we tie it

13:03somehow get connected to the to to this

13:07to this legislation legislative number

13:10seven is it what is it 781

13:12>> 18 and 18 781

13:14>> talk to law about that but

13:15>> yeah get that tied so that it's

13:17>> okay

13:18>> we get get it connected when it come

13:20back

13:21>> we'll see how we can do that

13:22>> can do that

13:23>> reason why they're separate because

13:25they're agreements and there's um

13:26different things might happen with

13:28different companies and so that's why

13:29they're separate.

13:30>> Okay.

13:31>> Yeah, the CNS would always be separate

13:34from KLF or CHA if that's what you're

13:37at. I'm not tying those two together in

13:39any way.

13:41>> But I think what he's saying is if we

13:43pick CNS on the new RFP to try,

13:46>> but I don't

13:49>> I don't know how we can do that. But

13:50I'll talk to law.

13:51>> Okay. just somehow to find a way where

13:54we get it all tied together connected

13:56because

13:57>> I don't know if I remember it

13:59>> a month or two from now that it's

14:01related to that.

14:03>> Well, we've had it happen before where

14:05we've started a project on one CNS

14:09agreement and then the project finished

14:11on the next CNS agreements because

14:14they're all separate work orders.

14:17>> So,

14:19>> okay. So, uh, 18 is I didn't go over any

14:24of the details is with CHA, um, asking

14:27to amend their contract by 1.5 million

14:29for a total not to exceed 2.5 million.

14:32And this is to work on the parks, pools,

14:35uh, Anandaga greenhouse, and work on the

14:38inner harbor

14:42and other miscellaneous, but those are

14:43the big things.

14:4919. Um, is it Eric?

14:57>> Good afternoon, councilors. Ericson in

14:59the mayor's office. So, item 19 is an

15:01extension of the right-of-way closure on

15:04Comtock A. This is a uh a 90-day

15:07closure. Uh, the uh current um

15:10permission that was allowed for that was

15:11voted on earlier this summer will be

15:13coming due at the end of the month. So,

15:14this would be an extension for 90 days

15:16that would take us through the end of

15:18December. uh as part of the uh modified

15:20right-of-way ordinance that was passed

15:22uh earlier this summer in July, the

15:24costs per day uh increases from $400 per

15:27day up to $800 per day. So that will be

15:29a total of $72,000 over the course of

15:32that 90-day period. Uh the university

15:34has prepaid those fees, so those have

15:36been collected already as part of uh the

15:39process, but this would be an

15:40authorization to continue that

15:41extension.

15:43>> Questions?

15:46>> Are those refundable fees or n

15:48The closure itself is non-refundable. So

15:51those are non-refundable

15:52>> fees.

15:56>> Thank you.

15:57>> Good. Thank you, Eric.

16:01>> Item 20.

16:06>> Hello, Ann Ford, first deputy

16:07commissioner of Syracuse DPW. How y'all

16:09doing?

16:11>> Um, I have 20 and 21, which are both

16:13about the fuel island replacement

16:15project. And so this is uh $50,000 not

16:18to exceed for just the design services

16:20of the new fuel island. It's getting

16:22old. We need to replace it and we want

16:24to do so before it becomes problematic.

16:26So

16:28>> Okay, Ann, give me the full rundown

16:31here. We are replacing the natural gas,

16:35gasoline, diesel.

16:36>> This would be gas and diesel.

16:37>> This would be gas and diesel. Are we

16:39adding solar charging? Are we adding any

16:41additional

16:42>> not to my knowledge but I will uh

16:45>> vehicles

16:47>> bring in the expert here

16:48>> as we are in conducting a design review

16:50process. This sounds like the time

16:54>> we have councilors Jeffa director of

16:56fleet. Um so this 50,000 it is to bring

17:00in a firm to let us know the the current

17:03condition of our fuel island to see

17:05exactly what repairs are needed or if it

17:07is a full replacement. Um, and we can

17:10have those conversations about um, EV

17:14charging, that kind of stuff, but I

17:15think that is kind of more of a bigger,

17:17broader question as far as um, you know,

17:21where would they actually go because we

17:23have very limited space for a fuel

17:25island as it is. So, um, I think those

17:27things are kind of two separate

17:29conversations. Right now, we're just

17:31working to try and make sure our our

17:33current fuel capacity uh is up and

17:36running so all of our departments have

17:38the needs to be out there and doing

17:39their jobs.

17:40>> Does the city currently have any fleets

17:42that need that service?

17:45>> Uh electric charging.

17:46>> Yeah.

17:47>> No, we do not currently have any

17:48vehicles.

17:49>> So, but that is the the stepping stone

17:51before we move into purchasing those. We

17:54have to have the infrastructure

17:55available. So

17:56>> now this so this would be looking at the

17:59entire structure of the island as well

18:02as the tanks themselves.

18:04>> Correct. Yeah. So it's it's everything

18:05from the uh maintenance program that

18:08they use for us to track the the fuel

18:10and all the expenses as well as the

18:12actual hardware of the different uh

18:14tanks because those are becoming uh

18:16obsolete as far as

18:17>> I should say not the above ground tanks,

18:19the underground tanks.

18:20>> These are currently underground tanks.

18:21Correct. Yes.

18:22>> All right. That's kind of low. Well,

18:25this is just the design service part.

18:27Okay.

18:27>> Correct. Yes. To kind of let us know

18:28where we stand and where we have to go

18:30from there.

18:31>> So, after this is completed and we have

18:34figured out what we need to do to update

18:36the gas and diesel fueling, then we will

18:39be considering additional recharging or

18:42charging options.

18:43>> So, I I do believe those conversations

18:44are are going on through different

18:46departments. Um I know when Karina was

18:49still here at NBD, we we had these

18:51conversations. Um, but they are

18:52different funding for those too. Like

18:55there's there's grants and things that

18:56we need to be looking at for that kind

18:58of stuff. Um, but those conversations

19:00are at the beginning of of happening.

19:03>> Yeah.

19:03>> And and we have been pulling in

19:05different departments to talk about

19:06their needs as well in terms of

19:10>> so stations and things of that nature.

19:13>> Yeah. So, I'm more or less looking at

19:14the the fleet as a whole, um, between

19:17parks, water, DPW, um, and trying to

19:21identify the vehicles based on some

19:23metrics of how often they're used, um,

19:26you know, the the fuel that they are

19:27using, that kind of stuff. So, um, I

19:30we're not quite at the point because we

19:32haven't identified where we would even

19:34start doing electric charging stations

19:37yet. So, we're we're kind of really at

19:39the tip of the iceberg on that.

19:42going to get to the bottom of the

19:43iceberg.

19:44>> There's a plan to get there. Yes.

19:46>> Okay. Yes.

19:47>> Thank you.

19:47>> Yes.

19:48>> Appreciate that.

19:50>> Can I just ask when you say there's a

19:51plan, are we talking five years out, 10

19:53years out? What what are we talking

19:54about? Because it's clear that this is

19:57going to be our future, right?

19:58Especially with gas prices going up.

20:00We're going to have to start converting

20:01to solar to electric vehicles.

20:03>> Sure. So, um I mean I want to make sure

20:07that we're seriously looking at this and

20:10that we have a plan in place saying

20:12within the next five years we're going

20:13to start placing vehicles or within the

20:15next 10 years.

20:16>> Yes. So, yes. Um again, when Karina was

20:18still here, we we sat down and went

20:20through that. We did come up with a um

20:22transition plan. Um but before we can

20:25really start enacting the the purchase

20:26part of it, we really need to get

20:27through the infrastructure and

20:28maintenance part of it. So, there's some

20:31leg work to do, but there is a plan that

20:33that phases in over the next 10 years um

20:36specific vehicles that we could use

20:38electric for that wouldn't hinder our

20:40processes.

20:43>> And there's no way to make that go

20:44faster.

20:46>> That's all dependent on how quick we can

20:48get infrastructure in place and and

20:50training for the mechanics and the right

20:52equipment for the mechanics. Um and

20:55>> you said the right word mechanics. You

20:57don't have mechanics.

20:57>> Yeah, because Yes.

21:02Correct. Yes. And yes, Deputy Mayor's

21:04correct. There's also power issues with

21:06National Grid being able to supply us to

21:08>> say that we don't there's a station over

21:10there that can handle that.

21:12>> Yeah. There. That's why it's hard to

21:13narrow down exactly where we can put

21:15these stations. We have to make sure

21:16National Grid has the power available to

21:18allow us to do it. So, it's like I said,

21:21it's a very big question at this point,

21:24but we do have people working on it for

21:26sure.

21:28Thank you.

21:29>> Other questions?

21:31>> Thank you. Uh 20 22.

21:36>> So 22 and 23 are for sewer

21:40[clears throat] capital equipment

21:42program and I believe there was a list

21:44of vehicles listed under schedule A.

21:49Any questions about those vehicles?

21:55>> Four.

21:55>> Sorry. And could you just run through

21:57them for me, please?

22:02>> The vehicles.

22:04>> Hey, Jeff.

22:08>> Do you have the list of uh the vehicles?

22:11>> Uh yeah, that wasn't in the schedule A.

22:14Sorry.

22:14>> Sorry. I I just found it. Thank you.

22:16Sorry, that was behind something that I

22:18was looking at.

22:20>> And we do get these off the state

22:22contracts. So depend there are state

22:25contracts, there's national contracts,

22:27and then we do put items out to bid too

22:29um if they're not on a contract

22:31anywhere.

22:33>> And all of our mechanics know how to fix

22:34these?

22:35>> These particular ones? Yes.

22:37>> Okay.

22:43>> All set up.

22:44>> All right. 24.

22:53question.

22:54>> Good afternoon, counselors. Vinnie

22:55Scipion, chief information officer. Um,

22:57this item presented for you is um for

23:01the purposes of accommodating

23:02administrative and contract negotiation

23:05timelines. Uh, Flowird is the system

23:07that we use for parking meters and the

23:10mobile app uh to pay for those fees uh

23:12when parking. Uh, Flowboard was acquired

23:15by Park Mobile. Uh on June 15th earlier

23:18this year, the council voted for us to

23:19enter into an agreement with Park Mobile

23:21as a result of that acquisition.

23:23However, the execution of this new

23:25agreements taking slightly longer than

23:27we anticipated. Um as we work through

23:29that final contract negotiations with

23:31Park Mobile, the new entity, we still

23:33require continuity of services with

23:35Flowbird, that you know pre-existing

23:37entity. So this legislation is uh to

23:39authorize us to continue to pay Flowird

23:41until that cut over when we execute the

23:44new contract. and then you know continue

23:46on as park mobile

23:50>> followup questions.

23:52>> Thank you.

23:53>> Appreciate it. That'll be all madam.

23:55[snorts]

23:56>> Thank you. Uh councelor Erin Rick.

23:58>> Thank you. I have items 25 through 30.

24:04Here's the commissioner. Now

24:11we mine our easy. Good afternoon. Sisha

24:13Bur, Commissioner Parks. Um 25 is for a

24:17bench donation and plaque um for Gloria

24:21Sage and Comfort Tyler Park um via TNT

24:26installed and maintained by the city.

24:3026 is to accept a donation from Eastwood

24:34Neighborhood Association in the amount

24:36of $535 for a um arbor for the garden,

24:41the Eastwood Heights garden.

24:4427 is to um another donation from

24:47Eastwood of two benches valued at 30

24:50$3,798

24:54um through TNT to be installed and

24:56maintained by the city.

24:59Can I ask a question about the benches?

25:01Um,

25:03>> when

25:05when someone wants to have a a bench

25:07placed,

25:08>> do they pick the location and is there

25:11any communication with individuals

25:14utilizing the park?

25:16>> Um, I ask that because the recent bench

25:19placement at Kirk Park

25:21>> um

25:22>> is kind of like in a prime location

25:25where the cheerleading team practices.

25:28So, I thought that was kind of like the

25:32people who wanted it don't really go to

25:36the park that often, so they wouldn't

25:37know that. Um,

25:39>> so they they actually work with Josh

25:41Wilcox to our bench program and he will

25:43walk the park with them and find the

25:45best location for the bench.

25:47>> Yeah. But then cuz Josh isn't at the

25:49parks all the time either as far as like

25:52what's happening in the park daily. So

25:54he wouldn't know that the cheerleading

25:55team utilizing that space for their

25:58practice.

25:59>> So are is there communication with the

26:01community, you know, to say like, is

26:04this a good location?

26:05>> I mean, often there is. I'm sure Josh

26:08I'm sure he didn't approach Kirk Parks

26:10and say, "Hey, can the bench go here?"

26:12Cuz ultimately it's a city park and he

26:14worked with that group just to place the

26:17bench where that person sat in the park

26:21>> or their favorite space in the park.

26:23That's what we normally look at.

26:25>> So, I'm not sure if there was

26:26communication with Kirk Parks, but

26:30um and we can talk to them. I mean, it's

26:31not a designated charity.

26:33>> Oh, no. You don't have to talk to them.

26:34That's done. I'm just saying, you know,

26:36moving forward.

26:37>> Yep. If there's a group in the park like

26:39a football team or something like that

26:42that utilizes space and then someone

26:44comes and plops a soccer goal there like

26:47you know

26:48>> it sounds like that bench is problematic

26:51>> right in terms of usage of the

26:53>> I didn't I didn't talk to the

26:54cheerleading team I just know that they

26:56practice there um

26:58>> I guess my question is to her to

26:59Patrona's point if there are events or

27:02things that the use is being the park is

27:04being used for you would know that.

27:06Yeah. I mean, we know where they

27:08practice, what spaces they use.

27:10>> Exactly.

27:11>> Um, typically we'll walk the whoever

27:13requests the bench will walk the space.

27:15There's many times we have to tell

27:17folks, "No, it can't go there because of

27:19A, B, and C." Yeah.

27:22>> Okay.

27:24>> 28 is an agreement with Elite Gaming for

27:26services related to um instructional

27:28e-gaming programming

27:31at Wilson and Southwest for the e-gaming

27:33rooms that we've built.

27:36We we allocated more money in there for

27:38them to be

27:39>> more days. Is that going on?

27:41>> Yes, they'll be in there. We also have a

27:43part-time staff, Tim, that will be

27:45helping um with podcasting and e-gaming.

27:48And we have a full-time position that

27:50we'll be posting soon

27:53for our recruiter to assist with e-

27:55gaming.

27:57>> Sisha, are you seeing more kids using

27:59those areas now?

28:00>> We are. when we're able to open the

28:01spaces and staff them, which we'll have

28:04staff now, it's packed.

28:06>> And I mean, it's kids right now. The

28:08future we're hoping to get seniors in

28:10there for um just keeping your brain

28:13active. Maybe you'll come play, you

28:15know, we're we're going to institute

28:17some What's wrong with that?

28:18>> I think that was I think that was a dig.

28:20Um Donna, that was a dig.

28:22>> [laughter]

28:22>> You said senior and then you went right

28:24to me.

28:26[laughter]

28:29>> You know I didn't mean it like that. But

28:31I hope to get you all in there playing

28:33everybody. Um but the goal is to you

28:36know you utilize that space for our

28:37youth and also open it up to our senior

28:40programs during the day. So to bring

28:42some of Machznney or or Southwest or um

28:45Cecil in

28:46>> and um because you're saying seniors,

28:49but [clears throat]

28:50>> I always think back when this was a

28:52thing, but they used to have like ABC

28:54learning programs. Those ended years

28:57ago, those aren't specifically for

28:59seniors, just for adults that need

29:01>> that need some reading, you know,

29:03stimulation.

29:05>> And so that's something that also can be

29:08um utilized. future.

29:10>> You're you're right. Yeah,

29:13>> that's our hope is to keep those rooms

29:15full and moving in the in that equipment

29:18utilized.

29:20>> Let's keep it running.

29:22>> Um and then we have number 29. It's a

29:24annual agreement with the most for

29:27services related to educational program

29:29in our parks. 20 hours um of discovery

29:32one-on-one workshops at our rec centers.

29:36Number

29:3730, application and agreement. Um, this

29:40is for music performance through trust

29:43music performance trust fund. Um, in the

29:46amount of $2,000, they reimburse 50%

29:49back for music performances in the park.

29:51We often use them for my market, which

29:53is October 3rd at Lower Anadaga. This

29:56year,

29:59>> while we have you, um, I know summer's

30:01not all the way over. you have one more

30:03festival, but let me just tell you, your

30:05staff, they nailed it this summer. So,

30:07thank them on our behalf. Um, they did a

30:09great job.

30:10>> Appreciate it. It was a long

30:12>> It was a long festival season, but you

30:14know, that's important to us and they

30:15did a great job. So,

30:16>> appreciate you.

30:17>> It's amazing that we see you at every

30:18single one of them.

30:19>> I tried I missed probably two. I tried

30:22to get to every one of them.

30:24>> Thank you for the good work.

30:25>> Thanks, Commissioner.

30:27>> Thank you, Council Moore.

30:29>> Thank you, Madam President. I have items

30:3131 through 36.

30:34>> Good afternoon, councelor. Rich Trudeau,

30:36deputy chief of police. Um item 31,

30:38we're uh looking for approval to enter

30:40an agreement with uh the Humane uh CNY

30:44uh to provide uh veterinary and lodging

30:46services for our dogs and animals that

30:49are involved in animal cruelty

30:50investigations. Um they're one of only

30:53two that uh facilities that are willing

30:56to house our dogs for these sort of

30:57things. They do provide um low-level

31:00veterary care in terms of shots and that

31:02sort of thing for uh our dogs that we

31:04recover. I do have some stats for you in

31:07terms of how often we use them. Um

31:10Humane CNY, we had 82 animals last year

31:12and we're up to 68 uh year to date this

31:15year. So, it is an important resource

31:17for us. And again, this is one of two.

31:19I'll be coming before you next session

31:21for forever uh friends to for the same

31:24thing for their facility. When you say

31:26our dogs, is this is this shelter dogs?

31:30>> These are dogs that we recovered for uh

31:32in investigations. The next item would

31:34be for our police dogs specifically, but

31:36these are for uh investigations um that

31:39we that we um undergo and the dogs we

31:42recover from there.

31:43>> What What is I don't understand. What is

31:44it? Investigation.

31:45>> So, animal cruelty investigations um

31:48neglect, that sort of thing. So, they're

31:51investigation dogs. They're not our

31:53police dogs. That's the next item.

31:54>> Okay.

31:56Okay. So, item 32, as I mentioned, we

31:58are looking to enter an agreement with

31:59the Camilos Animal Hospital for our

32:01canines. This is a animal hospital that

32:04has all of our police dog records for

32:06years. It's like the primary care for

32:08physician for our dogs. So, it's

32:11important that we feel this to stick

32:12with this uh this group, and that's for

32:14$21,000.

32:17Uh item number 33 is our yearly request

32:20to appropriate funds in the amount of

32:22$74,500 for our neighborhood watch

32:25group. Uh particularly Tony Belli and

32:27the and the work that he does for us.

32:30Um number 34, we're looking to authorize

32:33payment for two officers that attended

32:35the SWAT training in 2025. Due to some

32:38turnover in our travel process, these

32:40two officers weren't reimbursed um

32:43during that time frame. It was a

32:44mistake. We're just looking for

32:46authorization to uh pay them um from

32:48this fiscal year. Um and the item 35 and

32:5236, both of those are related. We

32:54currently use the the the emergency

32:56vehicle operations track in Asiggo

32:59County. We're looking for authorization

33:01with Asiggo County to use the track in

33:04the amount of $12,000.

33:06And then from the New York State DEC,

33:08they have a building on site. we would

33:10run a classroom from them for uh not to

33:13ex uh exceed $3,000.

33:18>> The breaching school happened in May

33:202025.

33:21>> Yes.

33:23>> Why didn't we approve it earlier than

33:25this?

33:26>> Um the training was approved, but the

33:28reimbursement didn't take place because

33:30we had turnover in the travel

33:32coordinator. So, it happened at the same

33:34time we lost the travel coordinator. by

33:36the time we picked up another one that

33:38was a mistake and it wasn't picked up

33:39between that transition um to pay those

33:42officers. So, we're just looking to do

33:43that now.

33:44>> Thank you.

33:45>> Yep.

33:47Thank you.

33:48>> Thank you. Um are you all set?

33:51>> Okay. Council [snorts]

33:53Williams,

34:01>> I'm sorry. I had asked about the um

34:04license plate scanner scanners on CVIN

34:08and they're still there. So I'm

34:10wondering what's going on. It's four

34:12total. They're on the two corners.

34:15>> After you brought that to our attention,

34:16we went out and they're completely

34:18disabled at this point. We're just

34:19working on a method to get those down.

34:21>> Disabled. Um

34:22>> they're not tracking plates. They're not

34:24capturing data. They're turned off. The

34:26same

34:27>> No, they're they're not turned off

34:28because they still have the lights

34:30going. Um, that might be the cops

34:33cameras in that area, but I can assure

34:35you that the the the LPRs are definitely

34:38turned off. They're not capturing data.

34:40Could there be power to the light? I'm

34:42not sure, but I confirmed that we are

34:45not capturing data from those plate

34:47readers 100%.

34:49>> Okay. So, you're taking them down soon?

34:50>> Yes.

34:51>> Okay.

34:51>> Soon, we're taking them down for sure,

34:53and I'll keep you updated on how long it

34:55takes to get that that done, but they're

34:56disabled. They are not working. They're

34:58not catching. Put a plastic bag over

35:00them like the other people did.

35:01>> I'm sorry.

35:02>> Put a plastic bag over them like the

35:04other.

35:04>> Okay, we'll look into the light cuz I

35:06don't want it to look like, but they're

35:07definitely off.

35:08>> I just want to be clear. Those are those

35:09flock cameras that

35:10>> they're definitely not those were

35:12cameras. And I know you had talked with

35:13Chief Shaw. Those were cameras that were

35:15installed way before the Remington Lag

35:17cameras. Um, yeah. So,

35:19>> they were from 2020.

35:21>> Um, and then they got lost in the

35:24system, but then they were supposed to

35:26be reconnected to another system. I

35:29don't know what's going on with them,

35:30but they're there and we don't want

35:31them. So,

35:32>> right. Yeah.

35:33>> Well, thank you for the information.

35:35>> Okay. Thank you.

35:36>> All right. Councelor

35:38>> Mont for councelor Williams.

35:40>> Thank you, President. Uh, councelor

35:42Williams has 37 through 39. 37. We will

35:44go into executive session after study

35:46session. Uh, 38.

35:54>> Hi, good afternoon counselors. Diane

35:56Nastry, Commissioner of Finance. Uh item

35:59number 38 is requesting authorization to

36:02refund some of our bonds that are

36:04callable right now to in an effort to uh

36:07have uh take advantage of some savings

36:10depending on where the market goes. So

36:11this is just getting us ready. We have

36:12some bonds that we can that are mature

36:15and

36:17if the market allows us to refund and

36:19save some money, we'd like to do that.

36:22>> Thank you.

36:28>> [clears throat]

36:30>> Matt OJ, Commissioner of Assessment 39.

36:32We are looking for two more RO

36:33corrections on the current year. 7:30 Le

36:35Moine Avenue uh as an instance in which

36:37a property owner was assessed an illegal

36:39setout fee. Uh result think of a

36:42communication error between uh receivers

36:44of phone calls and issuers of tickets.

36:46Uh looking to reverse that. Uh 1703 West

36:50on Endago Street was an inaccurate

36:51calculation of an omitted tax bill upon

36:53conveyance from a nonprofit entity to a

36:56tax liable entity

37:02>> and they had submitted their paperwork

37:04paperwork.

37:05>> No, no, this this was simply um our

37:07staff when a when a property conveys

37:09midyear from a nonprofit to any of us um

37:12they they should be liable for an

37:14omitted tax bill for that prata portion

37:16of the year for which they're liable.

37:18Um, simply math was done inaccurately.

37:20Okay. Our staff caught the error

37:21afterward. We'll be making it right.

37:26>> Are you okay?

37:27>> Thanks, Matt.

37:28>> All right. Uh, thank you,

37:31>> Council General.

37:33[snorts]

37:35Item 40.

37:36>> 40 is um another ordinance amendment.

37:39This is a property at 511 East Laurel

37:42that was demolished subsequent to

37:43council action looking to reflect the

37:45property uh looking to correct the

37:48property description.

37:49>> Oh, so it's demolished before. Okay.

37:51>> Demolished after. Yeah, it was it was a

37:53uh woodframe structure before, now a

37:55vacant lot.

37:56>> Okay. Are you still working on that

37:59other one

37:59>> and the other rule of correction? Yeah,

38:00let's uh

38:01>> Okay, we'll talk

38:01>> chat after executive session. Thanks.

38:03>> Thank you,

38:05>> Councelor Monto and councelor Jones

38:07Rouser. Item 41.

38:12>> Good afternoon, counselors. Brianka

38:14Hill, Deputy Commissioner of Business

38:15Development. Um, item 41 is to accept

38:18funds from Anadaga County for a North

38:20Side Main Street program. Um, the funds

38:23would not exceed $1.5 million. These

38:27funds would be used to support various

38:29projects throughout different corridors

38:31in the north side. I believe there's a

38:32total of 19 different projects. The city

38:35would not be required to provide any

38:37match. That would be on the onus of the

38:40project owners.

38:41>> And Bri, the county picks all of these

38:43properties, right? They the county, we

38:44don't have anything to do with who gets

38:45the money. They award these to them.

38:47>> Correct. Yes. We would act as a pass

38:49through entity.

38:50>> Okay. But if they don't spend all the

38:51money, then we kind of get to weigh in

38:53at some point, right? So, if they

38:55>> I we definitely have the ability to work

38:57with the county to make recommendations

38:59on projects that we know become

39:01available in need of funds.

39:03>> Okay. um as we've done with past Main

39:05Street programs.

39:08>> How often do this happen?

39:11>> Um I don't think there's typically a

39:14regular frequency. Um I think it's

39:16really just determined based on um the

39:19county's interest that's received from

39:22different projects throughout the city.

39:24Um and what's factored into um the

39:27county's budget

39:30>> to know if there's going to

39:32Okay. To know if there's going to be

39:34some um projects that could if something

39:37here doesn't work out and you can

39:38allocate new projects. How long does it

39:41take for us to know that? Is it a year

39:43out? Two.

39:44>> So, I think we'll know immediately. Um

39:47Mike Laflair who's here from the county,

39:49he works with the project owners

39:50directly as he tracks the status,

39:53ensures everything's completed

39:55appropriately,

39:57um and can immediately also know and

39:59understand if a project is enabled to

40:01move forward or not.

40:03>> Okay.

40:04>> This is a one time thing, right?

40:06>> Yeah,

40:06>> one time.

40:07>> Yes, one time.

40:09>> Well, they've done it before though.

40:11>> This is the latest iteration of it,

40:13right? because they did the west and

40:14dog. So there's been other programs like

40:17other ones like that's right. Okay.

40:18>> Yes. In the past they've matched DRRi

40:22funds that we were awarded from the

40:23state for a um West Anadaga main street

40:27program and then we also have the South

40:29Salina Main Street program that was a

40:31previous project as well.

40:34>> And with the um Mike may I don't know if

40:37you know but is this the same amount as

40:40the South Liner Street one?

40:43Um the South Salina

40:47was that like two million

40:55>> one point. Yeah.

40:56>> Cuz I'm just wondering because that was

40:59like kind of one strip. This is has so

41:02many streets attached to it. So, it kind

41:04of seems like that would be

41:07I mean, South Carolina is still in the

41:10process, but um it just this is broader.

41:14This is a lot broader and it just seemed

41:17like

41:18people are really really going to be

41:20fighting for funds.

41:21>> I think they've already picked the

41:22projects.

41:23>> Yes.

41:23>> Yeah, they're already in the Oh, you

41:24already picked

41:24>> them. They're on the count selected the

41:2719 projects.

41:28>> Oh, okay. Okay.

41:31>> They're in the agenda. Okay.

41:33>> Yeah.

41:36>> Yeah. Okay.

41:38>> So, who is the county commissioner

41:41development?

41:43>> The commissioner of development at the

41:45county.

41:47>> Um, so I believe that is uh what's his

41:52name?

41:54[clears throat]

41:54>> Marty Scain. Yes.

41:56>> Okay. because there's there's been some

41:59other things that have gone on

42:01>> when they had these counties at their

42:04press conferences and I was out of the

42:06picture and uh and I want to thank Eric

42:09and for keeping me up track, you know,

42:12and I don't know why I've been left out

42:14of this uh discussion with the county,

42:16but I want to thank Eric for updating me

42:19on what's going on in my district

42:22because people have come up to me, how

42:23can I get it?

42:25>> Gotcha.

42:26Thank you.

42:27>> Thank you, Councelor Monto.

42:32>> I have items 42 through 49.

42:37>> Welcome back, Matt.

42:39>> Thank you, councelor. We've gotten uh an

42:42ordinance that was twice amended.

42:43Ordinance 340 of 2025. Like to amend

42:46that once more. We're getting very close

42:48to a closing on the Maria Regina

42:50project. Um, and we've got a bit of an

42:5211th hour change in the name of both the

42:54beneficial owner and the housing

42:56development fund corporation that's

42:58eligible for the exemption. So, looking

43:00to amend the previous two ordinances to

43:02reflect those name changes.

43:04>> Why are they

43:05>> these these these aren't mere changes in

43:07in entity um whatever internal um

43:10incorporation reasons they have. Um I'm

43:13not entirely up to speed on

43:16from our perspective dealing dealing

43:18with the same uh

43:19>> individuals on the other side of the

43:20teams or the phone. Um and

43:22>> I think they added one group

43:24>> there there was um a different

43:26development group that came in uh as

43:28part of the broader structure. Um but by

43:31and large same familiar faces, same uh

43:33trustworthy ultimate and uh end product

43:36and excited to see this thing come to

43:39completion. I'm glad they are we're

43:41getting moving forward on this, but the

43:43concern also is who's supposed to take

43:45care of it until it happens

43:47>> with all the trees and grass and all

43:49that. It looks a mess

43:50>> prior to closing. Um I think the status

43:54quo reigns. I know codes and permits

43:56have been heavily involved with keeping

43:58eyes on the property um keeping the

44:00fence up around it, keeping o overgrowth

44:02down. Um but but the owner for the last

44:04eight years obviously has been um remiss

44:07in duties as somebody

44:08>> about Mr. with me. Thank you.

44:10>> Uh yeah, Commissioner, can you tell us

44:12when we look for a ground dating

44:14ceremony?

44:16>> Uh I I'd love to. Uh Commissioner

44:19>> Yeah. Uh so Michael Collins,

44:21Commissioner for Neighborhood Business

44:22Development. And so um Council Cwell,

44:25just to finish on that and support uh uh

44:28Commissioner OJ's answer, until the new

44:31entity closes on the property, it is

44:33still the responsibility of the existing

44:35owner. Uh uh we've got public works,

44:40police, codes, as we've always done,

44:43working to make sure that the property

44:45is secure. Fire as well, of course. Um,

44:48and fortunately, Herb Brewer, who's the

44:50contractor, uh, that will be working on

44:52the project, has uh, been able to step

44:54up and help with the security of it as

44:56well. But it is solely the

44:57responsibility of the of the

44:59>> I haven't been there this week, but I

45:01know I think it was last week before is

45:04the overgrowth is awful. And you think

45:06about it, the school is right there. It

45:08sits on a corner. The kids are walking

45:10past like, you know, I mean, just

45:12visibility and everything. And so I

45:13don't know if we could reach out to Hero

45:15Buer and just ask him to like trim that

45:18down because

45:19>> we'll Yeah, we'll take we'll take a

45:20look.

45:20>> Okay. Absolutely. Thank you.

45:21>> Absolutely. And then uh councelor Nave

45:24to your point, so uh this project has

45:27received notice from the housing

45:29financial agency. That's the part of

45:31homes and community renewal that the

45:32money flows through that uh they will be

45:35on the September meeting uh with a

45:38recommendation to approve the funding

45:40for the project. So, uh, the city has

45:43been working, uh, as you saw from the

45:45item from Commissioner OJ, you saw

45:47earlier from Mary Robersonson, uh, the,

45:50uh, the items related to the sewer

45:52linings. Uh, our code, our permits team

45:55has been working right along with them.

45:57So, we're, uh, we're near the finish

45:58line on the city being able to deliver

46:01everything that we need for a closing

46:03this year. And uh we you know we'd like

46:05to see one uh before before the end of

46:08>> the city get reimbursement for Mr. KJO

46:13>> city and I just wrong department because

46:15he's taken the city for right for too

46:17many years.

46:19>> You you would have no argument from us

46:21on holding the current owner

46:23responsible. Absolutely. And back to

46:25that, I thought about that. We have a

46:26we're we're contracted with people we

46:30that cut grasses when anybody else's

46:32yard like if a homeowner and they have

46:35property and it was too bad. So this

46:37should be the same thing with a business

46:38like that. And then we should find

46:40whoever is in between. But we got to get

46:42that down cuz it's bad.

46:44>> And you're you're right. And we do. And

46:46so uh the the property has been built

46:49for previous services.

46:51>> So we're going to get somebody Jake your

46:54team. We can get somebody out there to

46:56get that trimmed down.

47:00>> It turned into grass. It turned into

47:02bushes. It turned into It's like wild

47:05now. But

47:06>> it's Huh.

47:09>> Especially on a corner right there

47:10because the visibility is really bad.

47:12And the kids, it's only, you know, 100

47:15feet from a school

47:17>> and that and that's mainly the city's

47:18right away. Correct.

47:20>> Absolutely. It's bad.

47:22>> We do it to homeowners. So we should

47:24definitely take care of it for

47:27businesses.

47:28>> Yeah.

47:29>> Can I ask a question

47:32>> senior housing part of this?

47:34>> Yes.

47:34>> Um what do you mean by that? I mean what

47:36is the workforce? Is is this nonprofit

47:38set up to that? They're helping people

47:41find jobs and they're allowing them to

47:43live there while they're

47:44>> Access CNY has some housing and

47:46programming that's there.

47:48>> Yeah. So they're they're they're a

47:49partner on the project.

47:50>> Oh, okay. Yeah.

47:51>> That's good news.

47:52>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very excited

47:53about it. And the rest of it is uh set

47:56aside for income qualified seniors.

47:58>> Nice.

47:58>> Sure.

47:59>> Thanks. Thank you.

48:00>> I'll turn it back over to Commissioner.

48:02Thanks.

48:04[clears throat]

48:14>> So, I just sent a text about the

48:16overgrowth. So,

48:17>> thank you.

48:17>> I'll update you on that.

48:18>> Um item number 43. Uh first, Jake

48:21Dishaw, deputy commissioner of code

48:22enforcement and zoning. Item 43 and 44

48:26are to uh advertise a public hearing um

48:29and amend the current moratorum language

48:32on battery energy storage systems. Um,

48:35so you'll recall we we recently asked

48:38you for a six-month extension um through

48:42February, which we don't feel like we

48:44need, but we're working on final touches

48:46on the local law that we've been working

48:47on, and we hope to have that before you

48:49in the very near future. In the

48:51meantime, there's a current need um to

48:55amend the language in the moratorum to

48:57allow commercial buildings to have

49:00commercial connected battery energy

49:02storage systems. So think about a diesel

49:04generator but with batteries connected

49:06to a commercial building for power

49:07backup. Right now the moratorium does

49:09not allow that. Um that is not the

49:12intent of the local law that we wish to

49:14bring before you in the very near

49:16future. And we do allow residential um

49:18installations of these for you know

49:20Teslas or other battery backup for

49:22residential one and two families. This

49:24would allow anything larger than that to

49:26have them as well. Um so that's the

49:29amended language.

49:31They'll still have to go through the

49:32whole permit process to install it

49:34though.

49:34>> Correct. Uh the same way you would need

49:36to if you were going to do a diesel

49:37generator site plan review with zoning,

49:39building permit reviewed by fire and

49:42codes, etc. inspections.

49:47Any questions?

49:49Okay. Uh 45, we will have executive

49:52session following this meeting.

49:5646.

49:57>> 46 is a special use permit. um at 658

50:01West on a Doagga Street for a small

50:03restaurant under 1,000 square ft. This

50:06is in an old uh mansion. So, it's a

50:09recently new owner uh working with a

50:11local architect to kind of redevelop and

50:13re- imagine um you know some of these

50:16beautiful buildings that are left over

50:18there. Um there's currently no tenant

50:21proposed, but um they have uh the

50:23proposed plans and meet the criteria uh

50:25for a special use permit.

50:28Um J [clears throat]

50:32um is this in addition to their previous

50:36um permit application or their per

50:40>> those are actually two separate um

50:44buildings. They have that connection

50:46still, but they're they're they want to

50:48take that down. So that other proposal

50:50you speak of has not come back before us

50:52just yet, but um I heard that it might.

50:55So um it's separate from that.

50:59Jake, I have a question. It says that um

51:02in the project scope of work, it

51:04includes four for customers consuming

51:06the food on premises. That consumers

51:09customers

51:11>> actually customers, right?

51:12>> Yeah, it must be a typo.

51:14>> Okay, I was excited. Customers sounds

51:16great

51:19>> again. Fourth paragraph down, fifth

51:22paragraph down. Whereas scope of work,

51:25>> okay,

51:27>> we a new letter. We got a um we did get

51:29a revised letter, right, Jay?

51:31>> Um

51:32>> is that the one?

51:33>> No, I think I think Is it in the

51:34resolution? Is that what you're

51:35referring to?

51:36>> It's in the resolution.

51:41>> It's It's just a typo though, right?

51:43>> Yeah, it's just a typo. Go ahead with 47

51:44G.

51:45>> Uh 47 also a special use permit. This is

51:48for a restaurant at 2000 Park Street in

51:51Hayawa. that's like a halal um

51:55restaurant and also no one spoke in

51:57favor or opposition of this and also uh

52:01recommended approval from the planning

52:03commission

52:07>> questions

52:1048

52:11>> and 48 another special use permit this

52:13is for a New York state licensed retail

52:16cannabis dispensary uh it falls under

52:18the um land use category of a smoking

52:22establish lishment in our zoning code at

52:238:14 Wolf Street. Uh they have a

52:27tenative state license and again have

52:30met all the uh requirements from New

52:32York State OCM and within the zoning

52:35code.

52:36>> Uh Commissioner, we go back to 47. Did

52:39you talk with uh Bill Fischer, executive

52:42director of regional market? Because he

52:44called me last week because on this

52:47property that there was part of it. He

52:50was doing an address was property of the

52:51regional market.

52:53>> Got that verified.

52:55>> Yep. Um he sent me an email. Um if you

52:58look, it's in one of the plans. Um on

53:01the site plan, it actually shows a

53:03detail that uh the special use permit

53:05actually has a detail that says remove

53:08uh pavement um encroaching onto

53:11neighbors property line and I think it

53:14says something along the lines of

53:15install green space.

53:17>> Okay.

53:17>> Um so actually it you know if you were

53:20to move this forward that would be

53:22included in a requirement of the special

53:24use permit that they actually um follow

53:27those plans. I believe that's included

53:29in your packet. Okay.

53:33>> Any questions on 48?

53:36>> Uh 49 is a resolution of urging the

53:39assembly and senate.

53:41>> Jake,

53:42>> thanks Jake. [clears throat]

53:43>> Uh and Kathy Hokll to pass Assemblywoman

53:46Hunter's bill that is in front of the

53:48assembly or will be in front of the

53:50assembly.

53:51Uh councelor Williams has joined on with

53:53me with that one. If anybody else wants

53:55in,

53:56>> let the clerk know.

53:58>> Yes.

54:00Yes. Anyone not

54:05just and I am all set.

54:08>> All right. So motion to move into

54:10executive session to discuss

54:14>> to get advice

54:15>> on Westcot.

54:19>> All in favor

54:21>> I

54:24question.

54:34Yeah.

54:34>> All right.

54:50I had a question.

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