2026-09-17 - Syracuse Landmark Preservation Board

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  • The August 27 minutes were approved as submitted. Six board members were present and one was excused.
  • CA-26-19, 120 Dorset Rd (Berkeley Park Preservation District): a certificate of appropriateness for reconstructing a deteriorated garage (a 1930s-40s addition to an 1880s house) and replacing its doors. The architect said the walls on three sides had failed, excavation must be done by hand because of a rear power-line easement, and a wooden overhead door is 180 to 200 days out, so a metal insulated door was requested to avoid winter concrete work. Members asked about matching the lime-rich stucco and texture (yes), drainage behind the garage, and a flat rather than raised panel and no wood-grain embossing; the applicant agreed to check for a smooth flat-panel door. No one spoke for or against. The board approved the application as submitted.
  • CA-26-20, 301 Highland Ave (Sedgwick Highland Preservation District): replacement of both century-old detached garage doors on Oak Street with composite steel, because the lower wooden panels have rotted and three restoration companies said they cannot be repaired; the owner also wants lockable doors after break-ins. The owner proposed a different window arrangement, but members wanted to keep the double row of glazing for the garage's pedestrian-scale character. The board approved the application with the second row of windows retained, vertical Stockbridge-style muntins, and a privacy film to deter people looking in. No one spoke for or against.
  • No new business; the meeting adjourned by motion.

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03:07[snorts]

03:30>> Right, now we can start.

03:38We can start right now.

03:39Beautiful.

03:42>> [clears throat]

03:42>> Good morning everybody. This is the

03:43regularly scheduled meeting of the

03:45Syracuse Landmark Preservation Board.

03:47And today is September the 17th, 2026.

03:51Present at today's meeting are

03:53>> Nicole Frignito

03:54>> Kyle Gregory

03:55>> Jeff Romano

03:57>> Hillary Donahue

03:58>> Samuel Prescott

04:00>> and Kate Allred.

04:02>> Excused

04:03>> Howard

04:04>> Howard and we're waiting on Beth. We're

04:05waiting on Beth. Yeah.

04:06>> Okay. Thank you.

04:08May I have a motion to accept the

04:09minutes of August the 27th?

04:12>> I'll motion to accept the minutes.

04:14>> Do I have a second?

04:15>> I'll second.

04:16>> Any changes modifications to those

04:18minutes?

04:20Hearing none.

04:22>> [clears throat]

04:22>> All in favor as submitted.

04:24>> I.

04:24>> I.

04:25>> Opposed?

04:26Abstain?

04:27Motion carries.

04:30Public hearings.

04:32Excuse me. [clears throat]

04:33The board will now conduct the public

04:34hearings on today's agenda. First, the

04:37applicant or their applicant's

04:38representative will be invited to

04:40describe the project scope of work and

04:42present any material and documentation

04:44regarding the proposal to the board.

04:46Next, [snorts] persons wishing to speak

04:48in favor of the proposal will be given

04:50the opportunity to address the board.

04:53Then, persons

04:54who wish [clears throat] to speak in

04:55opposition

04:56will be allowed to address the board.

04:58Finally, the applicant or representative

05:01will be given the opportunity to make

05:02closing comments to the board.

05:04Following public comment, the board may

05:06vote to approve, approve with

05:07conditions,

05:09or deny the applic- application just

05:11heard. The board may also decide to hold

05:13its decision until the next public

05:15hearing.

05:16If the hearing is closed, no additional

05:18information

05:19will be allowed into the record except

05:21for information the board may request.

05:23That information will be available for

05:25the public review with board staff.

05:28Staff, please introduce our first

05:30application. [snorts]

05:30>> That would be me. All right.

05:32Um

05:32>> [clears throat]

05:32>> so, the first application is CA-26-19.

05:36Uh it's a certificate of appropriateness

05:38for 120 Dorset Road. This is for garage

05:42uh

05:44garage repair and new doors. It's

05:45actually

05:46more like gar- garage reconstruction and

05:49and some new doors.

05:51The the

05:52property is in the Berkeley Park

05:54Preservation District.

05:56And we have Tom DeJulio here to speak on

05:58behalf of the project.

06:00>> Good morning, board. How are you guys

06:01today?

06:02>> Great, thank you.

06:02>> So, may I get you something to introduce

06:04yourself?

06:05>> Sure. I'm Tom DeJulio. Tom Thomas

06:07DeJulio Architects, 237 Wood Ave,

06:10Syracuse, New York.

06:11>> Thank you, sir.

06:11>> a few of these every now and then, so.

06:14Um

06:15it actually became like Kate said, more

06:16of a reconstruction than a simple

06:18repair. Once we got inside and started

06:20inspecting, uh

06:21walls basically are

06:23new walls, concrete new walls, concrete

06:25block new walls, which are different

06:26from what the house has.

06:28Um on three sides of it.

06:30And

06:31we have excessive

06:33deterioration and failure such as

06:36bowing, cracking, and some excessive

06:39deterioration around the the two sides

06:41of it. So, we're going to have to

06:43excavate around there. The only problem

06:45is is we have a rear

06:47easement where power lines run the back

06:49side of Dorset right here up on the

06:50hill. So, we can't get power equipment

06:53back in there and we're close to the

06:54neighbors, so it's going to be a lot of

06:55hand digging and small equipment. So, in

06:57order to keep the cost down so the poor

06:59guy doesn't pay $100,000 for a garage,

07:02um

07:03we're trying to do as much as we can.

07:05And one of the things that we are

07:06looking at to save costs is the overhead

07:08door. And we looked at ordering a wooden

07:10overhead door, and we can get them, but

07:12it's they're 180 to 200 days out.

07:15So, waiting that long putting us in the

07:17winter and doing all the concrete work

07:18outside would be a little

07:21costly if inefficiently. It'd be right

07:24double the cost of the concrete work

07:26having to heat it and maintain it.

07:29So, that's one of the fears we have.

07:30Other than that, everything is going to

07:31be returned exactly the way it is now. I

07:34presented photographs with

07:36Ms. Atwater, and she has all the

07:38photographs of what's there now.

07:40Um

07:41the interior front of the garage

07:44the over the front edge has failed so

07:47dramatically that the and the door is

07:49being rotted halfway up. Um

07:51>> I'll go to the photos. Yeah.

07:55>> Right. Um you can see that we don't want

07:57the failure to start compromising the

07:59roof system and framing.

08:01So that in mind

08:03um it makes it a little bit difficult to

08:06look for cost savings to do anything but

08:10presently the

08:12you know, one of the items that we can

08:13offer would be to replace the doors with

08:15a metal door that looked the same.

08:17And it appears that the house, the

08:19garage

08:20is constructed 1930s, 1940s versus what

08:24the house is which is the 1880s

08:27ish in that neighborhood.

08:29So this is

08:31during pre-war, post-war, World War II.

08:34Um so I think it was an addition to it.

08:37And as you can see there's

08:39there's big old cracks everywhere, so

08:43we don't want to lose the garage and we

08:44don't want to have them have a this, you

08:46know,

08:48dump a whole bunch of money into this

08:50garage.

08:52So it's going to be ridiculously

08:53expensive, so

08:57that's one thing we're asking asking for

08:59is relief to use a

09:02a metal insulated door

09:04versus um ordering a wooden door.

09:14Now if you want to go back to the

09:16survey, Kate, roll down a little bit.

09:18>> Sure.

09:18>> It should show the easement on the back

09:20side of it.

09:21It should show the limited easement. So

09:23it's pretty close to where the garage is

09:24and it's a pretty steep hillside going

09:26up there.

09:28So we want to try and avoid that around

09:31there.

09:33>> Does the easement come down the side or

09:34across the back?

09:35>> the It runs right across the rear of the

09:37building.

09:38If you go to some of the photographs,

09:40you can see the power lines actually

09:41going down the backside of

09:43the property line there.

09:45>> Is it Sorry, is this being indicated on

09:47the

09:47>> Yeah, we have power lines going right

09:49across the bottom. You can see the

09:51right hand side of the survey and then

09:54>> Okay.

09:54>> It's toward the bottom.

09:56Where they run through.

10:01And being a steep a very steep slope,

10:03you know, you want to

10:05excavate a platform order which the

10:07equipment to work properly and then

10:09>> Mhm.

10:10Okay.

10:11>> But we you know, there's no way of

10:12getting in there and efficiently working

10:14with larger equipment.

10:18>> Back to the

10:20There we go.

10:21Okay.

10:25>> Okay, since this is a public hearing,

10:28um

10:29I need to ask if there's anyone here

10:31wishing to speak in favor of this

10:32project.

10:35Hearing none, seeing none, is there

10:36anyone here to wishing to speak in

10:38opposition to this project? Come

10:40forward.

10:41Hearing none, seeing none.

10:45I ask that the public hearing is now

10:47closed.

10:48>> Public comment.

10:49>> Public comment, excuse me, is now

10:50closed.

10:51Board?

10:52>> [snorts]

10:52>> Comments, questions

10:55on this project?

10:58>> One question I have is can you Are you

11:02What type of material are you planning

11:03to use to repair the stucco? Are you

11:05planning to repair in kind with the same

11:07like

11:08>> cementitious base?

11:09>> Well, the stucco that's there has a lot

11:11higher lime content than we can buy off

11:13the shelf. We're going to use that. It

11:15gives you a much better water tightness

11:17to it. One of the little tricks there on

11:19the old

11:21historic brick usually have a really

11:22high content of lime in all their

11:24mortars there because it gives you the

11:26water tightness of it. And the mortar

11:28you buy now, S&M, are kind of lower in

11:30that and they tend to shear the brick

11:31anyways.

11:33So, when you're doing stucco with this,

11:34you would use the higher lime content

11:36because you want a more of a watertight

11:38one. And it's going to be sprayed on to

11:39get the same stucco finish there.

11:41>> Okay, so we're retaining the same

11:42texture.

11:43>> Yeah, we

11:43>> Okay.

11:44>> We want to keep the same exact texture,

11:45and it's going to be painted the same

11:46color

11:47>> Right.

11:47>> that it is now.

11:49>> That was my

11:51my main concern.

11:56My one [clears throat] comment regarding

11:58the slope,

11:59you feel this little swale right against

12:02the building is sufficient, or you think

12:04you should probably move it?

12:05>> Well, what we're going to do is we're

12:06going to put some larger drain tile

12:07behind the backside of it when we do the

12:08slope and some stone bed, so we can pull

12:11the water down around and let it drain

12:14naturally back onto the driveway area.

12:16>> Yes,

12:18hate to

12:18>> [clears throat]

12:19>> see all the work done and just repeat

12:20the problem, so

12:22>> In 3 more years, yeah.

12:23>> So,

12:24you're going to make a shelf back there?

12:26>> Yeah, we'll make a shelf back there.

12:27>> So, you'll make a shelf to work off of.

12:29>> [clears throat]

12:31>> Right, it'll be 3 or 4 ft back, and then

12:32we'll excavate that down lower and just

12:35put some washed larger stone in there

12:36just to drain it away. It'll work with

12:38the garden, too. They personally have a

12:40garden back there that

12:41>> Okay, so you'll divert it

12:43divert it [clears throat] around.

12:44>> Right.

12:45>> And get it away from the structure.

12:48You'll

12:49it'll be full excavation on that back

12:50wall, correct?

12:51>> Yeah, we have to go all the way down to

12:52the foundation and verify it's not

12:54compromised or failed.

12:55>> Yeah, okay.

12:56>> And then repair it if we have to.

12:58>> Okay.

12:59It's a lot I don't know

13:00>> know from the inside with 3 ft of snow

13:02earth against it, so.

13:05>> Okay.

13:06Any comments on the on the door?

13:13It's partially obscured from the street.

13:15>> Yeah.

13:15>> Um

13:16it is visible, but not not right on the

13:18street, per se.

13:20>> Mhm.

13:20>> So,

13:21um

13:23>> Yeah, there's a change about 9 ft

13:24elevation from street side to where the

13:26garage is, so it's really hard to see

13:28anything but the ridge of the garage

13:30from the street.

13:31>> Right.

13:32>> So, we've got a raised panel.

13:34>> [clears throat]

13:35>> Right, we're going to try and mimic the

13:36door

13:38the existing of flat

13:39>> a flat panel

13:40>> It's a flat panel, it looks like.

13:42>> Yeah.

13:44They can go to the

13:45>> Can you go to the

13:46>> the image of the

13:47>> towards the end towards the end

13:49Yeah, there's the proposed with the

13:51raised panel.

13:53If we look at the existing, it's a flat

13:55panel.

13:57>> Did you explore looking at a more of a

13:59flat panel on the

14:00>> Unfortunately, the only thing they have

14:01is the raised panel designs to them.

14:09Everyone wants fancier things nowadays,

14:11so

14:14>> Yeah, it's now we're

14:16Yeah, we're swapping out material and

14:19that and then also we're swapping out

14:21designs, so

14:24board how the board feels about that.

14:28Anyone wants to comment on that? I

14:30If we can get a flat panel

14:32I don't know if it's possible.

14:34>> Yeah, I don't know if we can get one.

14:37I'll have them order the flat panel

14:39versus the raised panel.

14:42>> And it's a it's a large area to change.

14:48Trying to see if this the the aluminum

14:50door itself, it's doesn't have the wood

14:52grain on it, right? It's just a flat

14:55flat steel.

14:56>> But we can get the wood grain as part of

14:58it.

14:58>> I'm not asking for that.

15:00>> I don't think we want that.

15:01>> I'm not asking for that. I'm just making

15:02sure it's not it's not there.

15:04>> No wood grain.

15:04>> Okay. No wood grain.

15:06>> Um

15:07>> Well, we're trying to meet the board's

15:08expectations, so

15:11>> Well, we don't want to falsify

15:13product, right? So

15:15embossing wood grain onto an aluminum

15:17panel is falsifying it to

15:19board's perspective for historical

15:21standards.

15:21>> That's not what my wife thinks on a on

15:23our garage door.

15:25>> So, if it's smooth panel or smooth metal

15:29aluminum,

15:30if we can

15:31possibly get a flat panel on that, I

15:33think that would be my request. And if

15:35the board agrees with that.

15:36>> Sure.

15:36>> Yeah.

15:37>> Okay, I'll check the manufacturer if

15:38they make smooth panels.

15:41>> Say that again?

15:41>> I'll check with the manufacturer if they

15:42do a smooth panel door.

15:44>> Yeah, smooth smooth

15:46flat panel, not non-raised with a smooth

15:49finish.

15:50Um

15:51Any other comments? We got to look into

15:54approve

15:55disapprove or approve with conditions.

15:57>> Are you doing anything with the roof?

15:59I didn't see

15:59>> No, luckily the roof is in pretty good

16:01condition, so

16:03and that's why we want to shore it up

16:04and do as much work as we can before

16:06winter hits and we start getting snow

16:07loads when we're trying to hold it up

16:09with

16:10temporary framing and shoring.

16:14>> Okay.

16:20>> The roof, soffit, all that existing work

16:22remains.

16:26And the front wall is rebuilt as is?

16:29>> The front Yes, it's going to be rebuilt

16:30as is with the wider trim panels and

16:32matching the same trim that goes around

16:34it.

16:35>> Door panel size is the same as existing

16:37openings?

16:37>> Same as existing openings, yep. They're

16:39right now they're a 9-ft by 7-ft door.

16:42So, either that or 8 by 7, that's one of

16:44the two standard sizes.

16:48>> The doors look to be like 30 years old.

16:51So,

16:53they're not really that old the door,

16:55but they're just deteriorated really

16:58extensively.

17:01>> I Would there be any document This is a

17:04later uh neighborhood designation?

17:07>> I don't The only documentations that we

17:10have are

17:10>> I'm 17.

17:11>> Yeah.

17:12>> When the When the district was

17:13>> Yeah. The or yeah, the early Yes. The

17:16The photos would be from the early

17:182000s, I think.

17:20>> And that would

17:21include that door. Okay, I just want

17:22just

17:23>> Yeah, and actually I think the only

17:25images that we have are are of the house

17:27itself and not of the secondary

17:30structures.

17:31>> So then are we as worried about it if

17:32it's a 30-year-old door?

17:36>> I mean,

17:37does it look like a 30-year-old door?

17:38>> For me it looks like a door in a house I

17:40grew up in. The house was built um

17:43same time I was born.

17:45>> Yeah, okay.

17:46>> You know, like this one looks like

17:48Oh.

17:49>> Yeah.

17:49>> This one looks like

17:52>> newer.

17:53Okay.

17:54All right. Uh if there's any more

17:55questions, um can I get a motion on the

17:58table, please?

17:59>> I I make a motion to approve the

18:00application as submitted.

18:03>> I'll second.

18:04>> Any comments or additions on that?

18:09All right. You have a motion on the

18:10table. All in favor?

18:12>> I.

18:12>> I.

18:13>> Opposed?

18:15Motion carries.

18:16>> Thank you guys very much.

18:17>> Good luck with the project.

18:24>> [clears throat]

18:25>> Thank you. We don't want that to happen.

18:26>> Thank you very much.

18:31>> Okay, I believe it is it is my turn

18:33again.

18:34Um

18:35so the next It's garage day, yes. Um

18:37so the next application is CA-26-20.

18:41Again, a certificate of appropriateness

18:43for 301 Highland Avenue.

18:46Uh this is also a garage door uh

18:48replacement. Well, this is a garage door

18:51replacement. Uh the the uh district is

18:54the Sedgwick Highland Preservation

18:55District and uh the owner is here

19:01to speak about his project.

19:03>> Good morning. Um

19:05my name is Dan Stevens and I'm one of

19:07the owners of the property.

19:09>> Welcome.

19:11>> Thank you.

19:14>> So you can just describe quickly what

19:16what your project is and and the reasons

19:19at this point why

19:20>> Sure. Um

19:22the garage, as you can see, is um

19:25detached from the

19:28uh

19:29residence. Uh the garage itself is on

19:32Oak Street. So, it's about the

19:35I think sixth block of Oak Street.

19:39And um

19:41garage, I believe the

19:44residence was built in 1901.

19:47I think the garage is about 20 years

19:50younger, but uh

19:52almost the same vintage. In fact,

19:54there's a

19:55uh you can't really see it in the

19:56photograph, but in the

19:58uh there's a chimney on the back wall

20:01inside the um

20:03garage, which I think was used to uh

20:06keep vehicles warm while they were being

20:08stored during the winter. So, that's no

20:10longer in operation. Just kind of a

20:13quaint uh architectural remnant. Um

20:17the doors have been

20:20sitting in the snow and ice for um

20:24a century. And over time,

20:27that has uh caused the

20:29uh lower panels of the doors to

20:31gradually deteriorate uh despite

20:35painting and uh

20:37um

20:39some um rehabilitation.

20:42Uh eventually, uh the door uh the

20:46rightmost door

20:48uh

20:51had the There's a uh

20:55a metal plate

20:57that was embedded in a wooden panel in

21:00the bottom of the door,

21:02and the uh chain and pulley system that

21:07raised the door

21:09um

21:12was connected to that plate. The plate

21:15uh because of the deterioration of the

21:17wood around it, the plate simply

21:19separated from the

21:22from the wood. There's now a hole in the

21:24door.

21:25And uh I had three different uh

21:29uh door

21:31restoration companies come and look at

21:34it. Uh

21:35all three are telling me cannot be res-

21:38re- repaired.

21:40>> [clears throat]

21:40>> Um and they all recommend

21:44uh replacing the door with uh

21:47composite steel, which I gather is the

21:51state of the art in 2026.

21:55Um

21:57in order to

21:59uh

21:59let me for two reasons. Number

22:02uh I've decided to apply to do both

22:04doors, even though the door on the left

22:06is still functional. Um

22:10>> [clears throat]

22:11>> it's on the same timeline. It will

22:13eventually it's going to fail also

22:15because of for the same

22:17snow and ice reasons. And I want them to

22:20look the same. I don't want to have one

22:22one way, one the other way.

22:24Um moreover,

22:27the garage has uh the doors are

22:31currently not capable of being locked.

22:34And uh

22:35it was in

22:37I've had uh

22:42people come into the garage. Uh both

22:45cars that were stored in there were

22:47broken into in the past year.

22:50Um so I'm interested in as part of this

22:53project also

22:55being able to lock the door so that

22:57nobody other than me goes in there.

23:04We to answer any questions.

23:08>> Thanks.

23:09So, this is a public hearing, so I need

23:11to ask if there's anyone here in the

23:13audience that's we wishing to speak in

23:14favor

23:15of this project?

23:18Nobody here. Anyone wishing to speak

23:20against this project?

23:22Nobody here.

23:23So, we can close the public comment.

23:26>> [clears throat and cough]

23:28>> Uh board, any questions for the

23:31applicant? Any comments?

23:36>> Can I Can I chime in just for a second

23:38then? Um

23:40>> You're at the table.

23:40>> Uh

23:41Actually, I have I can give you these.

23:45This is a little bit more information

23:47about the

24:00So, they're the

24:01um

24:03Um Mr. Stevens and I had had discussed

24:06um

24:06all

24:07various window

24:09arrangements too. And uh this was the

24:12window arrangement that that you

24:14included in the

24:16in your application. Um and uh

24:20there are simpler ones as well that are

24:24available, but I we had um

24:27as you can see uh

24:29there are ones that are of perhaps

24:31closer to what is there now.

24:37>> Did you look at um

24:39>> [clears throat]

24:39>> doing two panels of windows that

24:42replicate what's there now? Did you look

24:44at that option?

24:45>> I did. Uh

24:49I want to discourage

24:51people looking through the windows. Uh

24:54there really is no purpose to have

24:56windows.

24:58Cars live in there. They don't look out

25:00the window. Um

25:02the That's an existing window. You can

25:04see it's uh

25:06uh I guess it's my height. So, somebody

25:08on the street can come in and look and

25:10see

25:11what's in there. Um

25:14the uh higher windows seem to uh

25:19uh discourage that and uh people just

25:22walk by

25:24which is what I want them to do.

25:26>> So, I had the same question, but I was

25:28wondering and I understand the concern

25:30for security, of course.

25:32But

25:33would you be open to adding lower level

25:35windows and putting a privacy film

25:38on both? So, you would still maintain

25:40the overall appearance and the

25:41proportion of the glazing,

25:43but no one would be able to see in. So,

25:45and the privacy film would also add an

25:47extra layer of

25:48um

25:50durability against

25:52people breaking the glass or something

25:53like that. So, it wouldn't be the same

25:55as the steel panel, but you would retain

25:57the appearance, the overall proportion

25:59of the glazing, and just

26:00prevent people from being able to see in

26:02for minimal additional cost.

26:06>> Yeah, open to that, certainly.

26:10Um

26:16There In the past 5 years, there were

26:20two

26:21uh incidents where

26:23people came in broke broke smashed

26:25windows and in both cars. Um

26:31this arrangement

26:34I thought was uh

26:36more inclined to discourage that. That's

26:38why I'm

26:40I prefer it, but

26:42>> [clears throat and cough]

26:42>> not the hill I want to die on.

26:46>> All right. What we're speaking towards

26:48is, you know, maintaining the the visual

26:51character of the garage.

26:52>> Yeah.

26:53>> And so having the double row of lights

26:55was always there. It let light in. You

26:56can, you know, there's I know there's

26:58other windows on the garage, but it

27:00presents a friendlier facade to the

27:02street and your garage is

27:04a couple feet from the sidewalk. It's

27:06very pronounced. Um and

27:09uh I wish you included a picture of the

27:11house with the garage, too, because it's

27:13a striking combo, I I I believe. The

27:15house The house is great. Um

27:18but just to show the the character that

27:21was included, even though the garage is

27:2320 years younger,

27:25into the garage, I think um

27:27charismatically connects the house and

27:29you're kind of on the edge of the

27:30district,

27:31and so to me it's very important to keep

27:33those characters, even though we're on

27:35the edge, because once we will start to

27:36lose that pedestrian scale or that

27:39fenestration pattern, we start to

27:40degrade the edge of the edge of the

27:42district.

27:44I mean, you know what I mean. You

27:45understand what I'm saying?

27:46>> Well,

27:46this is true. Uh

27:49I guess if if you think of the Sedgwick

27:51District as being the Monopoly board,

27:55this is Baltic Avenue and uh

27:59it it really is it's around the corner

28:02from Highland Ave. It's on its way

28:05down Oak Street. So, not

28:08the the area that we're looking at is

28:09what not what people think of as classic

28:13Sedgwick uh

28:15district. Across the street from that,

28:17on the other side

28:19>> Mhm.

28:19>> of um Oak Street, there's a 217 Highland

28:24Avenue. That's vacant

28:27and has been vacant for

28:30uh almost 10 years. So, nobody is

28:33looking at that anyway from

28:36that property.

28:38The house adjacent to 217

28:41Highland Avenue, 215 Highland Avenue, is

28:45also

28:47unoccupied.

28:49Uh

28:50no one is living there either. That's

28:52been empty for a while.

28:54Um

28:55on the other if you go further down

28:59uh Highland Avenue or Oak Street, excuse

29:02me.

29:03The next building is another garage.

29:07And next to that is uh what used to be

29:12uh

29:13a photography

29:14uh

29:16shop. That's also closed. So, it's just

29:20not a lot there. It's not Old Sturbridge

29:23Village. Nobody's coming to walk around

29:26and look at these properties. It's just

29:28a building that cars live in.

29:31And I'm trying to keep the cars

29:33protected.

29:34>> Understood. Uh but you are open to a

29:37film that would

29:39as

29:40Cal mentioned the

29:42privacy film on that.

29:43>> Yeah, I am.

29:45>> Okay, I think that's a

29:46really great

29:47comment, really great solution.

29:49Um any other members members of the

29:52board for comments?

29:55And then we got to

29:56put a motion together here.

30:03You know, we do one row windows that are

30:05simplified, the more of the Stockbridge

30:07model.

30:08>> Yeah, I guess I don't know. I'm okay

30:10with one row of windows. I would prefer

30:13the Stockbridge model. Um I appreciate

30:15the extra set of vertical lines in the

30:18doors. You know, it's not just the

30:19standard

30:21>> Yeah, the people would look at this

30:22complimentary of of what's there. It is

30:25a good catch.

30:26>> Yeah.

30:32>> No more comments?

30:32>> [snorts]

30:33>> Was that a motion?

30:34>> Or no, I

30:35Any other comments?

30:37>> I can

30:37>> Any other comments? Go ahead, but if

30:39there's a motion, please

30:41put it forward.

30:42>> Um I will motion to approve the project

30:45as submitted um with a change from the

30:48Prairie windows to the Stockbridge

30:50windows for the one row of

30:52top

30:52windows.

30:57>> Okay, we have a

30:58motion. Do we have a second to that

30:59motion?

31:06>> I'd still like to see the extra lower

31:07glazing.

31:08>> All right, we could we can uh

31:12We can have an amendment to that.

31:14>> Yeah.

31:15>> All right.

31:16>> Or if there's no second, then that

31:18motion fails. Um and then a new motion

31:22can be made.

31:22>> Okay.

31:25All right, we don't have a second, that

31:26motion's going to fail.

31:29All right.

31:30We get a new motion on the table,

31:31please.

31:33>> I move to accept the application as

31:36submitted with the modification that we

31:37retain the second row of windows, but

31:39with the vertical uh Stockbridge

31:42um

31:43muntins

31:45um and a privacy film to

31:49deter

31:50people looking in.

31:52>> Do we have a second on that motion

31:54that's on the table?

31:55>> Second.

31:56>> Second. Any discussion or modifications

31:58to that?

32:01Hearing none, all in favor of the motion

32:08>> I

32:09>> I

32:09>> I

32:10>> Opposed?

32:11Motion carries.

32:13Thank you very much.

32:14>> Thank you.

32:15>> Thank you. Any questions? You can reach

32:18out to Kate.

32:19Pretty simple.

32:23>> You can

32:24If you have any questions, you can talk

32:26to me. I'll

32:30>> Very good.

32:30>> Okay, thank you so much.

32:31>> Thank you.

32:31>> Thank you [snorts] very much.

32:32>> Thank you.

32:33>> Great house. Keep it up. Thank you.

32:41>> I have nothing else for you today.

32:43[laughter]

32:44So, there's no new business and no

32:47particular discussion items at this

32:49point.

32:50Um

32:53So,

32:54unless anybody else has anything.

32:58>> No.

32:58>> Okay.

32:59>> I have a motion to adjourn.

33:01>> Motion to adjourn.

33:02>> Second.

33:04>> All in favor?

33:05>> Aye.

33:06>> Motion carries.

33:08All right.

33:10>> Good job.

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