2026-10-20 - Planning and Economic Development Committee

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  • The committee met at 7:00 PM in the Aldermanic Chamber with three members present and Alderman Johnson also attending. There was no public comment, and there were no communications, petitions, unfinished business, resolutions, ordinances or tabled items.
  • The only item was a presentation by a business service representative from New Hampshire Employment Security, based at the Nashua office, on free services for employers. These included the NH Works job match database (compared to Indeed, free to New Hampshire employers who pay state unemployment taxes), recruitment events and email blasts to job seekers, and the WorkInvest program, under which the state pays up to 50% of the cost of approved business-related training and certifications (about 60 days to process, with a cap of $76,000 for large companies; the state left about $1 million unused). He also described the federal tax credits for hiring veterans and other groups (up to $6,500 for veterans) and the state's labor market reports for employers.
  • A member asked whether small businesses qualify; the representative said they do and that the services are especially useful to firms with one to three employees. Members suggested getting the word out through the chambers and local businesses; a question about the tax credit category "designated community resident" was left for a written follow-up.
  • Remarks: two members thanked the planning director for suggesting the presentation. Members reported touring the Nashua Public Library basement ahead of a vote in a couple of weeks (see Library Renovation Design).
  • The meeting adjourned at 7:24 PM, described as probably the fastest meeting of the committee.

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00:09>> Yeah.

00:10Okay.

00:17>> All right, 7:00 I think we should start.

00:23Everything's okay over there, right? All

00:24set to go?

00:25>> Ready to go.

00:26>> All right. Um

00:29I'm going to uh call the meeting of

00:31planning and economic development

00:33committee

00:34uh

00:35I'm going to call it to order. So, a

00:36meeting of the planning and economic

00:37development committee was held Tuesday,

00:39October 20th, 2026 at 7:00 p.m. in the

00:43Aldermanic Chamber and duly noticed in

00:45two places including the city's website

00:47in accordance with the requirements of

00:49RSA 91-a-2

00:52uh Roman numeral two. Uh

00:54can the clerk please call the roll?

00:57>> Uh Alderman Sullivan is not here.

00:59Alderman Clee?

01:01>> Here.

01:02>> Alderman at large Morgan is here.

01:04Alderman at large Ben Clemens

01:07and Alderman Derek Tibbetts.

01:08>> Here.

01:10>> And we have three in attendance.

01:13>> And

01:13>> Also in attendance

01:16is Alderman

01:19Johnson.

01:22>> And

01:23we should also have

01:26uh Mr. Steve Lee, business service

01:27representative for New Hampshire

01:29Employment Security.

01:33Um

01:36All right, I will call public comment.

01:40There is no one.

01:43Um discussions and/or presentations.

01:48Um I'd like to recognize Steve Lee,

01:51business service representative for New

01:52Hampshire Employment Security.

01:55I don't know if you want to poke your

01:56head out there if can poke their head

01:57out there and

01:58He was here, so

02:03When I said we call him into the

02:04chamber, I just meant he could sit in

02:05those chair like the benches. He didn't

02:07have to stay out there.

02:08>> He didn't have to stay out there. You

02:09could have come in here.

02:12Uh we don't have the overhead

02:14presentation that

02:17>> Okay.

02:18>> Do you have it or

02:19>> I do have my laptop.

02:20>> Okay. Um we can connect

02:22>> Yeah, you can sit over here and Alicia

02:24sit.

02:25>> You can sit here?

02:27If the Where's the wires?

02:29They used to be here.

02:30>> Underneath? I don't know.

02:42>> Yes. You have an HDMI, right?

02:44>> Um yes, I do.

02:47>> And you know how to convert it over to

02:48here?

02:50On your On the screen? No, on the little

02:52recording box. It'll say right and left.

02:55>> You're going to want to go to the right.

02:57This is right.

03:00>> So click on it.

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03:02going to

03:02>> Yeah, once he plugs in he'll see it.

03:04>> You'll see it once he plugs in.

03:10We're just going to give him a second to

03:11plug in and get ready.

03:20>> We should see something.

03:23>> Is it our right or is our Is it

03:27Left this way.

03:28Try left for the heck of it.

03:32>> Nothing.

03:32>> I go back to the clerk just so we can

03:34see if that

03:36if they went out. Okay, the clerk is

03:38>> So that's the side

03:39>> There's clerk working again. There's

03:41left.

03:44Here is right.

03:48You don't have like a thumb drive or

03:49anything like that, do you?

03:50>> I do not.

03:51>> Okay.

03:52>> No.

03:53>> I always carry one. I don't have it

03:54today.

03:54>> But you know what? I do have uh sheets

03:57where we can go off of that.

03:59>> Oh, I'm there.

04:00>> Oh, I see.

04:01>> It's always good to have

04:03Let me see if this the plug over here is

04:05working.

04:12You're trying that one?

04:13>> Yeah, let's try Do you mind coming over

04:14this way? We can try this one.

04:17Yeah, this works.

04:26>> It's got to be riveting TV right now for

04:27the people at home.

04:39If not, we can just Oh, there we go.

04:41>> Nice.

04:43>> Yep. That worked.

04:45>> I have one.

04:46Yeah, go to the packet.

04:48I guess we need to put a ticket in to

04:50get that fixed.

04:51>> Yeah, if it's not working, right?

04:53>> Yeah, then we don't have coffee.

04:54>> Talk We'll just tell Donna and Donna

04:56will do it for us.

04:57>> Yeah, let Donna know that one's not

04:59working.

04:59>> I mean, these still Yeah, they're still

05:01not working. Okay.

05:02>> I actually didn't know what it was.

05:05I want to get this wire out of the way

05:06so no one trips on it.

05:09I'll send you a message.

05:12>> All right, so uh this is uh Mr. Steve

05:15Lee, business service representative for

05:16New Hampshire Employment Security.

05:19Um I'll take it over to you and and you

05:21can start. Um just introduce yourself

05:23and uh and you can go through the

05:25presentation.

05:26>> Okay. Well, first of all, thank you,

05:27committee, for giving me uh the time to

05:29present today.

05:30Uh my name is Steve Lee from New

05:32Hampshire Employment Security. Most

05:34folks know us as the unemployment

05:35office. We're located right here in

05:37Nashua.

05:38So, my role is um an employer services

05:41rep.

05:43Most folks, when they when when they

05:45hear about the unemployment office, they

05:46think of uh folks being laid off and

05:49collecting benefits, which is true. But

05:51on the flip side of that, we also work

05:54with employers because we need employers

05:56to to post jobs for our job seekers. So,

05:59my role is to educate New Hampshire

06:01employers and make them aware of the

06:03free services, recruitment and retention

06:06services that are available to them.

06:09I say free, but it's mostly for New

06:11Hampshire employers that pay

06:13New Hampshire unemployment taxes that

06:15qualify.

06:16Of course, municipalities, cities, you

06:19know, they

06:20we also they also take advantage of our

06:22services. We work with Nashua police,

06:25the city of Nashua, and we have about 12

06:28we have 12 offices located throughout

06:30the whole state.

06:32So, do you see the first page? The This

06:34is our website. And this is for both

06:37candidates and employers. And and again,

06:40my role is to work with employers, and

06:44you know, we have job fairs, we have our

06:46job match system, we have training

06:48programs, we have veteran services

06:50available for both employers from a

06:53employer's perspective and for job

06:54seekers.

06:57Next page.

07:01So, this is our NH Works job match

07:03system.

07:04And I call this New Hampshire's

07:06indeed.com.

07:08So, this is where New Hampshire

07:09employers register with our database,

07:12and they post jobs.

07:13From a job seeker's perspective, it's

07:16mandatory for them if they're collecting

07:18benefits to register in this database,

07:22put all their information in there, and

07:23put a resume in there. So, now that New

07:26Hampshire employers who have registered

07:28with our database have access to their

07:30resumes. And as a as a New Hampshire

07:33employer who is active in our database,

07:36they have access to all the resumes of

07:38all the job seekers in the state of New

07:39Hampshire.

07:40Again, I call it New Hampshire's

07:42indeed.com, but these services are are

07:45again free for New Hampshire employers.

07:48So, it's it's very easy. Um,

07:50you need a federal ID number. You need,

07:52of course, your New Hampshire

07:54unemployment tax ID number. You need to

07:56be in good standing with the New

07:58Hampshire Secretary of State.

08:00Um, and you register and you post jobs

08:02and then you'll get access to all the

08:04resumes and it works two ways. Uh, job

08:06seekers will have an email like

08:08indeed.com. Emails [clears throat] would

08:10be sent to them with with suitable jobs

08:13uh based on their resume.

08:15And and employers on the other side can

08:17view as many candidates as they want.

08:21And at that point, uh it's between the

08:22employer and the candidate. We're out of

08:24the picture. So, the so the employer

08:27has, you know, total control

08:29uh

08:30of who they want to work with and who

08:31they don't want to work with.

08:35Next page.

08:38Work Invest New Hampshire. This is a

08:39program

08:40uh

08:41for retention for New Hampshire

08:43employers.

08:44Uh uh

08:45most of the New Hampshire unemployment

08:47taxes goes to uh the unemployment tax

08:50base, you know, to to pay the benefits.

08:52But, uh the there there are uh

08:55there are monies put aside to assist

08:56employers from a recruitment perspective

08:58and from this perspective uh a retention

09:01uh program. So, Work Invest is when an

09:04employer uh does professional training

09:07for their employees, gets their

09:08employees certified, and anything that's

09:11business related, they would submit a

09:13grant for these uh certifications to the

09:16to the state, uh go through the

09:18training. I mean, once the uh once the

09:20state has approved it, they go through

09:21the training, they pay for the training,

09:24and then they send the receipt to the

09:25state and the state will pay up to 50%

09:27of those costs.

09:29So, that's that's free money for New

09:30Hampshire employers.

09:32And we have many many new uh New

09:34Hampshire employers taking advantage of

09:35this. I I've got a company like

09:37Fidelity, they do it on

09:39like 3-4 months. They're doing

09:40professional training for for their

09:42employees. They submit their They submit

09:44their grant, and you know, every 3-4

09:46months they're getting 50% of those

09:48costs taken care of.

09:50Uh

09:51large companies, there's a cap up to

09:52$76,000,

09:54and if a company needs more than that,

09:57then they would work with the the

09:58commissioner

10:00uh our department to see if there's any

10:01more money available.

10:03Uh the commissioner actually had a

10:05employer seminar here last uh last

10:09I I think in the summertime when he was

10:10going through all these programs, and he

10:12said with the WorkInvest, we we actually

10:14left about a million dollars on the

10:16table that employees did not take

10:18advantage of.

10:19So, the challenge is, you know, we want

10:21to get the word out. We want to make New

10:23Hampshire employers aware of all these

10:24resources that are available to them.

10:28A- Any questions so far?

10:30>> Uh Alderman Cleek.

10:31>> Yeah, please.

10:32>> Uh thank you. You talked about large

10:34businesses, but does this also work for

10:36like a small business um who who's

10:39looking to recruit employees?

10:41>> Yeah, great question.

10:42>> Yeah.

10:43>> Uh I would absolutely. If they're doing

10:45any type of professional training that's

10:47business related for their employees,

10:50uh and and they're going to get

10:51certifications, yes, they they qualify.

10:54And it could be their vendor of choice.

10:57Um we have a lot of companies like Fi-

10:59Fidelity going using the National

11:00Community College, Manchester Community

11:02College, but it can be any vendor that

11:05that they choose. I've got manufacturing

11:07companies that are getting CDL licenses,

11:10welding uh certifications for their

11:11employees. So, almost anything. ESL, uh

11:15software, hardware, you know, anything

11:18that's business related. Uh they just

11:20submit the grant. It takes about 60

11:22days, and it's a it's a pretty easy,

11:24straightforward process.

11:26>> Just one more thing.

11:27>> Alderman Cleek, yeah.

11:27>> Yeah, thank you. Um also, you talked

11:29about that prior to this you we're

11:31talking about the free services and so

11:33on that you like for recruitment and so

11:34on.

11:35Um so when you talk about recruitment,

11:37you're talking about basically um you

11:39have a page where they can put what

11:41their openings are and people can go

11:43there and look for it or

11:45>> Yes, I absolutely. That's

11:46>> That's what that service is. Yeah.

11:48>> That's our database. It's called the job

11:49match system.

11:50>> Job match.

11:51>> And again, I I make the analogy, it's

11:52very very similar to indeed.com.

11:55>> Yeah.

11:55>> Biggest difference there when employers

11:57use our utilize our database, it doesn't

11:59cost any.

12:00>> Sorry.

12:00>> Right.

12:01>> We also have the other services for

12:02employers like recruitment events. We

12:05assist

12:06when they're having job fairs on their

12:07site. Uh we we can assist with the

12:10recruitment events on our site. And so

12:12what I do is if I have an employer

12:14coming into the natural office, uh I ask

12:16for at least 2 weeks notice.

12:18I I ask them what jobs are available and

12:20then I will do an email blast through

12:22our job match system to all our job

12:24seekers in the territory to make them

12:25aware of when the recruitment event will

12:28will be held and what jobs are

12:29available. So we do that on a weekly

12:31basis.

12:32>> Right.

12:32May I just make a comment? The reason I

12:34asked that was um I

12:37you had mentioned something about it was

12:39similar to indeed and I have a number of

12:41small businesses within my

12:43my ward and so on and I know they use

12:45indeed. I was just curious whether or

12:47not they knew about this job match and

12:49that would be

12:50>> I guess that's my my job and my

12:52colleagues to get the word out. And it

12:55it's a challenge. It is because um

13:00how do we get the word out on a on a you

13:02know from a large volume perspective? So

13:05what I do personally is I'm trying to

13:07get meetings like this to you know make

13:09to make the committee aware because of

13:10course you work with all businesses. So

13:13it's through word of mouth.

13:14Uh we're members with the Chamber,

13:16Nashua Chamber. I also work with the

13:18Amherst Chamber and the Hudson Chamber.

13:20These these are my territories. We're

13:22also a member of the Salem Chamber.

13:24>> Right.

13:25Again, just one more comment. Again, you

13:27know, he's talking different size

13:29business. It could be like a

13:32even though they're playing they pay

13:33unemployment, they don't necessarily lay

13:34their people off. Their people leave.

13:36Could be

13:37the restaurant industry and so on that

13:40might be constantly looking for people

13:42or

13:44I actually have a friend who does dog

13:46walking and she's constantly having that

13:48kind of but I know she does pay

13:50unemployment. I know the restaurants do

13:51as well.

13:53You said as long as they're in good

13:54standing with the Secretary of State and

13:56they they do the unemployment insurance.

13:59>> Yeah,

14:00of course [clears throat] having their

14:00federal ID number.

14:02We work with all types of businesses

14:04whether they're you know

14:06small businesses or large corporations.

14:09This is this is open to any New

14:11Hampshire employer that pays

14:13unemployment taxes.

14:14>> Thank you. I appreciate that.

14:15>> And and of course it's free and where I

14:18see the advantage is for a lot of small

14:20businesses that only have one or two or

14:22maybe three employees that they can't

14:24afford to use indeed.com. So we're a

14:27great

14:28alternative for them

14:30and you know, we also promote their jobs

14:32through email blast. They can send us

14:34flyers and we have job boards in our

14:36offices and we have 12 offices

14:38throughout the state and so that's

14:40another way of getting the word out to

14:41them.

14:43What I also do is we have mandatory

14:45sessions benefit they're called benefits

14:47rights interviews for our job seekers

14:49who are

14:50collecting benefits. So they come to

14:52these sessions and we invite our

14:54employers to come and you know, give us

14:56give a five-minute pitch of who they are

14:58and what jobs are available and I

15:00usually go through a list of companies

15:01too. I talk about the post office. I

15:03talk about came one here in Nashua.

15:08Whatever types of jobs are available. We

15:10just try to promote that and and make

15:12our job seekers aware of it.

15:14>> I'm I'm just going to make one quick

15:16comment.

15:16>> No, no, please.

15:17>> And and the reason I the reason I

15:18brought up small business cuz not all

15:20the small businesses belong to the

15:21chamber either.

15:22>> Right.

15:23>> small literally to belong to that, which

15:25always is a good asset to help, but so

15:28it's nice to see that the NHES does

15:30that. Thank you.

15:31>> Yeah, no well, no no, thank you.

15:33For us it's a challenge of just making

15:37making New Hampshire employers aware

15:38because you're right, so many employers

15:40are unaware of our free services for all

15:43of them. And WorkInvest is is a big one,

15:45you know,

15:46if they're doing professional training

15:48for their employees, the state will pay

15:50the 50% of those costs. I mean that's a

15:52huge savings.

15:53>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

15:55>> Thanks.

15:59So, next page, um

16:04This is a federal program

16:06it's a tax credit program.

16:09And if employers hire veterans, there's

16:11a potential of up to $6,500

16:14of tax credits for the company.

16:16Uh there are other type of recipients

16:18like like TANF or if

16:21employees are receiving SNAP benefits or

16:24they're disabled, depending on the

16:26group, there are all types of tax

16:28credits that are available. And this

16:30federal program has been around for for

16:32quite a while now. And again, a lot of

16:34employers are unaware of this.

16:36And from our perspective, too, we we

16:38have veterans reps, we have

16:40veterans employer reps also, and it's

16:43their job to get out get the word out,

16:45you know, to employers to make them

16:47aware of, you know,

16:50the benefits of hiring veterans

16:52and the resources available for

16:54veterans.

16:56>> Uh Alderman Morgan.

16:58>> What is a designated community resident?

17:01>> I'm sorry.

17:02>> Designated community resident, what is

17:04that?

17:05>> Designated community resident.

17:08>> Fourth one down.

17:09>> Oh.

17:10Uh I'm not sure.

17:12I'm not sure. I I don't want to

17:13misspeak. I I get back to you on that.

17:16>> Okay, thank you.

17:19>> If you just want to let Liz know and she

17:21can send out something to us.

17:22>> Absolutely.

17:23>> It'd be great.

17:29>> So, it was a short presentation and this

17:32is another database that we

17:34have. It's called the

17:36economic labor market

17:38uh

17:39database. And so we have access to to

17:42this database. And you know, it's just a

17:47a summary of of uh

17:50geographies uh of you know, I've got

17:53companies for example that have asked me

17:55about

17:57uh

17:58moving to New Hampshire. I have one

18:00company that has just moved to Salem,

18:02New Hampshire from from Massachusetts

18:04and they asked me, "Steve, can you get

18:06me a report regarding what rent cost in

18:10the Salem area? What does child care

18:12cost? What are the competitive salaries

18:15for uh uh field representatives and

18:19technicians you know, in manufacturing

18:21for my company?" So, I got a report for

18:23the director of HR and it was very very

18:25beneficial because now that they had a

18:27better idea of you know, how we compare

18:30with Massachusetts. And the people that

18:33were commuting from Massachusetts

18:34wanting to move to New Hampshire had a

18:36better idea of what rent cost uh and how

18:39much child care would cost if they made

18:40that move to New Hampshire.

18:42We also have

18:44the next detail level of proprietary

18:47information that is available to any

18:50employer and you know, it's my job also

18:52to make them aware that you know, what

18:55type of questions do you you interested

18:57in? You know, what does your industry

18:58need? And I've had companies come up to

19:01me and say, "Steve, how many how many

19:02manufacturing companies in Nashua

19:05uh sell the same products as me?" I can

19:07get that information for them. What's

19:09the demographics of employees here?

19:12What's the age group? You know, it can

19:14be very, very detailed and I find these

19:16these labor market reports very, very

19:18helpful. So, that's another

19:20value add that we offer to our

19:22employers.

19:26>> Any questions?

19:29>> No.

19:30>> A quick presentation, but hopefully this

19:32was helpful and I just wanted to share

19:34this information with the committee. So,

19:36you know, when you're talking with

19:37businesses too, please make them aware

19:39of you know, what we have to offer as a

19:41value add to our employers in New

19:43Hampshire.

19:44>> Yeah, that was great. I appreciate you

19:45coming in and

19:47you know, I hope more employers are are

19:49listening and and uh

19:51you get more employers to to take

19:53advantage of the stuff that you guys

19:54have to offer. I've used it as a

19:56employee. When I was laid off, I used

19:58the the the

20:00same tools that you're showing. So,

20:02um it's definitely helpful for people

20:04and uh I hope uh

20:07I hope they're listening and I hope we

20:08can spread the word that you know, like

20:10I said, you guys offer some things that

20:11maybe they don't know about. Um that

20:13would be great. I know I know someone in

20:15this chamber that knows a lot of small

20:16businesses in the area. So,

20:18>> Yeah.

20:18>> maybe they can help out.

20:19>> happy if there are any um

20:22if you have any ideas or any type of

20:25events, you know, we'd be more than

20:26happy to present and and just make you

20:29know, our New Hampshire employers aware.

20:30You know, and we see it it's a win-win

20:32for employers and it's a win-win for our

20:34job seekers in in the state of New

20:36Hampshire. So,

20:37>> All right.

20:38>> Well, thank you so much.

20:39>> I'm Mr. Chairman.

20:40>> Yeah, all those in favor

20:41>> Uh just quick question. Um

20:43I know they can just Google N H E S or

20:46New Hampshire Employment Security, but

20:48what is your website?

20:50>> It's uh right here. It's the first page.

20:52>> Oh, did I That was looking at it. I

20:54thought I

20:55Yeah.

20:56>> it This is the first page N H

20:58N H E S. You can just go to the N H

21:00>> Okay, I see it below it. Okay.

21:02>> .nh.gov

21:03>> Okay. Um and there there's probably uh I

21:06think resources and so on but it help if

21:08they needed to send an email to someone

21:10they'd be able to find it on there.

21:11>> Yes, absolutely. And of course

21:14we always recommend if you have any

21:16issues come into the local office. We

21:17have them you know, that's what our

21:19colleges are there to to assist both

21:21employers and job seekers.

21:24>> May I ask

21:24>> Yeah, I know what you're going to ask.

21:25>> Yeah, where are your local offices to

21:28Nashua?

21:28>> Yeah, 6 Townsend West.

21:30>> Okay, 6 Townsend.

21:31>> Right off of 101.

21:32>> Okay.

21:33>> Next to the Academy of Science.

21:35>> Yep.

21:35>> Yeah,

21:36I

21:37I'm also responsible for Salem. Our

21:39Salem office is 20 29 South Broadway.

21:45>> Okay.

21:46Thank you so much. I really do

21:47appreciate all this information.

21:49>> Thank you.

21:49>> Thank you so much.

21:50>> Please if if you have any questions,

21:52please feel free to contact me. We're

21:54here to help.

21:55>> Okay, awesome. Thank you so much.

21:56>> Thank you for your time.

21:57>> This is great Mr. Chairman.

21:58>> Thank you.

22:00Um all right, communications.

22:02>> None.

22:03>> Uh petitions.

22:04>> None.

22:05>> Unfinished business.

22:06>> None.

22:06>> New business resolutions.

22:07>> None.

22:08>> New business ordinances.

22:09>> None.

22:10>> Tabled in committee.

22:11>> None.

22:12>> General discussion.

22:17Public comment.

22:18I see no one.

22:20Remarks by alderman.

22:22>> Just

22:23>> Alderman Cleek.

22:24>> I just wanted to say thank you and thank

22:25you to Director Hanem for suggesting

22:28this

22:29I when I looked at it I was like

22:32what is this going to be about and how

22:33does it relate to planning and economic

22:35development but I do see it and I

22:37appreciated it. Thank you.

22:39>> Well, I I too want to thank Director

22:41Hanem.

22:42You know, I think it you know, anytime

22:43we can get it the word out that there's

22:45some benefit for someone out there

22:46whether it's employee, employer or

22:48someone that needs help with something,

22:50you know, it's a good idea to do that

22:52and

22:53I also want to thank today I went went

22:55on a tour with

22:57President Wilshire of the library. So I

22:59want to thank Jennifer McCormick for

23:01giving me an intensive

23:03deep dive into the library, deep into

23:05the bowels of the basement and around

23:08to see what kind of condition that's in.

23:10I know Alderman Johnson's going later in

23:11the week.

23:12>> Me, too.

23:12>> I did warn Director McCormick. I'm

23:14kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

23:17But I just want to thank them because it

23:19was a good tour. It was good to see the

23:21condition before, you know, we have to

23:22vote on it in a couple weeks. Alderman

23:24Johnson.

23:25>> I guess word gets around that I planned

23:27on Thursday

23:29>> Me, too.

23:29>> to get a tour.

23:30>> There you go.

23:31>> of the library.

23:33And I appreciate Director McCormick

23:35being able to work around my schedule.

23:38It's my day off and I'm still busy on my

23:40day off.

23:41But I'm interested in taking a look.

23:43I've been through the library for a long

23:45time. I just want to see, I guess,

23:47basement, I guess.

23:49Um and

23:50kind of go from there.

23:52>> Yeah, it was good to see the the places

23:54that we can't go when we're just walking

23:56around. So, I've never been in the

23:58basement, never been in behind some of

23:59those doors. So, it was good to to see

24:01all that.

24:03>> Halloween, is it?

24:04>> [laughter]

24:04>> Well, there was a Halloween event there.

24:06So, that was kind of cool. Kids were

24:07dressed up and doing some different

24:09things there. So, that was neat. So, it

24:11looked pretty good.

24:13Um all right. Anybody have anything

24:14else?

24:16All right. Alderman Cleary.

24:18>> Uh yes, I'd like to make a motion for

24:20adjournment.

24:21>> All in favor?

24:22>> Aye.

24:22>> Aye.

24:23We are adjourned at 8:00.

24:317:24. Wow. That was a quick one.

24:33>> That's probably the fastest PEDC

24:34meeting.

24:35>> Yeah. All right.

25:03>> Mhm.

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