2026-10-07 - Water and Sewer Commission Meeting

0:07I call this

0:09um

0:10this meeting of the Charlton Water and

0:11Sewer Commission. Oh, wait. No, never

0:13mind. It's

0:18Being over eager.

0:29Oh.

0:30>> Eric signing in now.

1:06>> [snorts]

1:13>> Um before we begin the

1:16the minutes that we got, the dates on

1:18this is July 9th, 2025. Is it Is that

1:21correct, Paul?

1:22>> Yes, there were two sets of minutes um

1:24in 2025. Those were never

1:27approved or signed.

1:29>> Oh, okay.

1:30>> We're bringing them now.

1:31>> Okay, okay. Uh

1:36>> I believe we have a quorum and it is

1:396:30 p.m. I call this meeting of the

1:41Charlton Water and Sewer Commission to

1:44order.

1:48The first item on the agenda is the

1:51public forum.

1:53Is there anyone on this call that wants

1:54to discuss something that is not already

1:56on the agenda.

2:02Hearing none, we'll move on to meetings

2:04and warrants. Mr. Ascenzo, do you have a

2:05motion to approve the meeting minutes?

2:08>> Oh, yes. So, I make the motion to

2:12accept the minute dated on

2:15Um so, there's two of them. The first

2:18one will be September 2nd, 2026.

2:23>> Second.

2:27>> Is there any discussion?

2:31Hearing none, uh call the vote.

2:34>> Mr. Ascenzo?

2:37>> Aye.

2:38>> Mr. Gagner?

2:39>> Aye.

2:40>> Mr. Thomas [clears throat] Coleman?

2:41>> Aye.

2:42>> Mr. Robert Coleman?

2:47>> Unmute.

2:48>> You're muted, Robert.

2:51>> Aye.

2:52>> And Mr. Graton?

2:53>> Aye.

2:58>> And I make a motion to also accept

3:02uh minute dated on July 9th, 2025.

3:07>> Second.

3:11>> Um just so you know, uh Mr. Ascenzo, you

3:13can't

3:15you have to abstain cuz you weren't at

3:16that meeting.

3:18>> Oh, okay.

3:19>> Okay.

3:20All right.

3:20>> I make a motion to accept

3:21[clears throat] the minutes from July

3:2220th,

3:24July 20, 2025.

3:29>> Second.

3:30>> I'll second it.

3:32>> [clears throat]

3:34>> All right. Mr. Ascenzo?

3:36>> Can I vote, though?

3:38>> No, you can just say abstain.

3:40>> Abstain. All right.

3:42>> Mr. Gagner?

3:43>> Aye.

3:43>> Mr. Graton?

3:44>> Aye.

3:45>> Mr. Thomas Coleman?

3:48Oh, sorry. Here I Yeah, Mr. Thomas

3:50Coleman.

3:51>> Aye.

3:52>> Robert Mr. Robert Coleman

3:54>> Hi.

3:56>> Right.

4:00>> And for the uh next order of business,

4:03we have a scheduled appointment uh with

4:06>> I think we have warrants to

4:07>> You're going to do the warrant?

4:08>> Warrants, right.

4:10>> Okay, so I'll make motion to accept uh

4:12warrant total in

4:15uh $108,727

4:19and 76 cents.

4:23>> I'll second it.

4:24>> [clears throat]

4:25>> Is there any discussion?

4:30Hearing none,

4:31uh call for a roll call vote.

4:34>> Mr. Finazzo

4:35>> Hi.

4:36>> Mr. Gagner

4:38>> Hi.

4:38>> Mr. Brotten

4:39>> Hi.

4:40>> Mr. Thomas Coleman

4:42>> Hi.

4:43>> Mr. Robert Coleman

4:44>> Hi.

4:50>> For our next order of business, we have

4:52a scheduled appointment

4:55with the for the Veolia monthly

4:58operating report.

5:03>> Uh good evening.

5:05Um you have my MOR for the month of

5:07August. Um I listed all the operation

5:10and maintenance activities on that

5:12report. As you can see, we've been very

5:15busy um

5:17fixing things and uh getting things back

5:19in order.

5:20You can also see that we've added

5:22another staff member um in the month of

5:25August. So, I just want the board to be

5:27aware that

5:28um we've had three

5:30people on site pretty much every day

5:33barring anybody calling in sick or being

5:35on vacation. Um and then our admin who

5:38works um

5:4020 to 25 hours a week is also on site.

5:42So, just wanted to make sure that you

5:44understand that we're meeting our

5:46obligations, people-wise, and actually

5:49sometimes we even have more people on

5:51site. Um

5:53continue to haul the sludge. We were

5:55actually getting caught up. We were

5:56getting very close um

5:59to being back in compliance, and

6:01unfortunately,

6:03the incinerator that we haul our sludge

6:04to closed down for a couple weeks, which

6:07kind of set us back. Um

6:09the incinerator's back open. We're back

6:11hauling

6:13getting rid of the sludge. Numbers are

6:15coming back down.

6:16Um we're getting close to close to the

6:18compliance. I can tell you the coli

6:20issue has gone away.

6:23I am in constant constant contact with

6:27Mr. Kapasco at the DEP. He is fully

6:29aware of um what's going on with the

6:32plant. I will tell you right now that he

6:34is very interested in the results coming

6:37from the Turnpike Authority and the

6:39brewery. Um

6:41which goes back to the IPP plan. Um

6:45which you are going to have Chris

6:46McCullen write. Um so, he's been um kept

6:50informed all every step of the way.

6:52And I guess with that said, I'll answer

6:55any questions from the board if there

6:56are any.

6:59>> Machine, the the performance report has

7:02flow rates that are

7:04you know, much higher than they've been

7:06in the past.

7:07Is that

7:09a quirk of a flow meter, or is it we

7:12really have

7:13>> I think the meter So, there is an issue

7:14with the daily max. I didn't catch it

7:16until I was working on the DMR.

7:19Um I did have the SCADA guy in the other

7:21day to look to see how that's being um

7:24calculated. It's being calculated right.

7:26Now, I just have to work on how it's

7:28transitioning to this report. Um the

7:30report for September will have the

7:33correct daily max.

7:38>> Yeah, so

7:39like the loading, like the BOD loading,

7:41and TSS loading

7:43are all concentrations times flow

7:47these loadings.

7:49>> Yeah, I mean I don't think the daily max

7:51really plays into that, but the loadings

7:53you're seeing are what is coming into

7:54the plant and what's going out. So, the

7:57BOD pounds per day is

8:00would be off a little bit, but I don't

8:03think that daily maximum plays into

8:05that. So,

8:06I did catch that. I will straighten it

8:09out before I turn in the September

8:11report. But, I can tell you this cuz I

8:13do see the lab data

8:14coming in. Your loadings are still over

8:17the design of the plant. Now, don't get

8:18me wrong. The plant is still performing

8:22pretty well, especially BOD removal is

8:24really good.

8:26Um,

8:27the TSS was coming down. The E. coli

8:29issue's been taken care of. The pH

8:31issue's been taken care of. Couple minor

8:33things here and there.

8:35>> pH is a weird one to

8:37>> It was an issue with

8:38the plant losing flow and some of the

8:41flow pacing. So,

8:43when the plant was starting, we were

8:45having some spikes, which we reported to

8:47DEP.

8:49We believe we've got that corrected now.

8:52We're not seeing those problems more

8:54recently, and I think that'll reflect in

8:57the September report when I write that

8:58for you.

8:59>> Yeah.

9:00Does phosphorus limit go away sometime

9:04soon?

9:06>> I don't think it goes away. I think it

9:07increases to a 1.0. Don't have that

9:10right in front of me. I know there was a

9:12change and usually it's November 1st,

9:14and then I believe it goes up to um

9:17a 1.0 monthly average instead of the

9:20.11. Um, I can look into that for you if

9:23you want and send you an email.

9:25>> It's typical that it goes up to one.

9:27>> Right. They Not

9:29In most places, yes. Like even in

9:30Sturbridge, ours changes on November

9:321st. I'm sure Charlton does the same.

9:35Um,

9:38and then even then, you know, until

9:40with the with the phosphorus, it's

9:42directly related to TSS. The last TSS

9:45before the um

9:48incinerated closed was down to a four,

9:50which I was hoping then the phosphorus

9:52would come back down with it.

9:54Um

9:55But it didn't Like I said, once it

9:57closed, um we didn't get to that. So

10:01So I have the permit in front of me on

10:03November 1st, it does go up to

10:05>> 1 mg per liter.

10:06>> Yeah.

10:07You attribute the

10:09phosphorus

10:11and the nitrogen in the E. coli

10:14to solids inventory more than

10:17>> Definitely the phosphorus. The E. coli

10:19was more um you know, your UV system

10:21just wasn't producing the way it needed

10:23to. With you know, with us getting

10:24permission from MassDEP, having that in

10:27writing, um the E. coli's gone away.

10:30The ammonia issue, um the ABCs are

10:33performing now. We are nitrifying.

10:36We just haven't had enough chance, you

10:38know, once we got caught up on the

10:39hauling, the incinerator closing down

10:42really set us back a couple weeks.

10:44>> But you attribute it more to solids

10:46inventory than CoMag performance?

10:48>> That CoMag system is in need of some

10:51serious work. Um that system's been

10:53altered. It's not running the way It's

10:57not running the way it's designed to

10:58run. Um it's going to need some work.

11:01We've actually priced out um some things

11:03that we'll need to do moving forward.

11:06We just haven't pulled the trigger on

11:08that until we know what the board

11:11respectively decides to do with the

11:12contract.

11:14>> Yeah.

11:15Okay.

11:15>> Cuz some of the parts lead times are

11:17five, six weeks.

11:19We've looked into some other work where

11:21um

11:21pumps have lead times of of months.

11:24And we just didn't want to get into that

11:26until you decide whether you were going

11:28with another company or you were going

11:29to retain Veolia's services.

11:33>> Okay.

11:34And just to to add to a little bit about

11:36what um

11:37Shane had mentioned about the uh the

11:39valving in CoMag,

11:41um

11:42>> [clears throat]

11:42>> the the wasting and return systems on

11:44the CoMag process utilize the same

11:47pumps. So, in order for it to cycle

11:49between return and wasting,

11:53automatic valves actuate um below the

11:56tanks to uh to divert flow to um their

12:00intended location. Those valves at one

12:03point were replaced with manual valves.

12:06Um so, SCADA can't really communicate

12:09with those valves to tell them what

12:11position to be in. So, we're having

12:13challenges with getting um the proper

12:16wasting and return ratios, as well as um

12:20the process utilizes what's referred to

12:22as goosing, where the valves will open

12:26uh more so than normal, um and the pump

12:29speed will ramp up. This scours the

12:31lines, so any buildup of magnetite or

12:33solids in those lines um will actually

12:37clear out. Um again, replacing those

12:39valves with uh manual valves kind of

12:42eliminated that process from working.

12:45So, Shane and I have um Shane and the

12:47team there have looked into uh replacing

12:50those valves and get getting them

12:52automated and functioning as intended.

12:57>> Yep.

13:01That that's a really hard process to

13:04run, just logistically moving

13:06that magnetite around is really

13:08difficult. So, I I get I get that.

13:10>> Yeah, it's a it's it's a

13:13For such a small process, there's a lot

13:14of moving parts, and all those moving

13:17parts are really integral to uh to

13:20proper operation. So, if you lose one of

13:23those parts or one of those chemicals or

13:25one of those mixers,

13:27the process really suffers. So, we think

13:29when we get that all squared away, we

13:31get the the wasting operating as

13:33intended, the return operating as

13:35intended, the performance numbers that

13:38we see coming out of that are just going

13:39to improve that much more.

13:41>> Yeah.

13:58>> Uh

13:59does anyone have any questions?

14:01>> I just have something. Um

14:04I noticed as I Shane, I should have said

14:06something to you.

14:07And I know there's lag time

14:10with your invoicing, but could we get a

14:12current R&M chemical sludge breakdown?

14:14Cuz this looks I mean, I'm just looking

14:16at it quickly now.

14:18Um it looks like it's last month's.

14:21I could be wrong.

14:22>> So, I I gave you the one I gave you was

14:25through um

14:29You're right. It was just through um

14:32July. When I do the September report,

14:34I'll make sure it's up through

14:35September.

14:35>> Yeah. Yeah. And I know

14:36>> And actually, if it helps, I can even um

14:39download it tomorrow and email it to you

14:41if that'll help you.

14:43>> uh yeah, cuz I know uh Trisha, Jen, and

14:45I have been going back and forth with

14:46things, and that's the other thing I

14:48wanted to um make mention. Um

14:51we're not ignoring Trisha. Uh we're

14:53going to do Jen's going to do a deep

14:55dive into those outstanding invoices.

14:58>> Understood. And then I'll I'll um

15:00I don't know how that happened, to be

15:01honest with you. I will I have the

15:03reports on my email. It's just Give me 5

15:06minutes to download them and I'll send

15:07it over to you.

15:09>> Okay, great.

15:09>> I apologize for that.

15:10>> Not a big deal.

15:21>> I I just got a quick question about the

15:23coal mag. I'm a little curious.

15:26Um I know Dennis was working on that

15:28valve. I'm not sure where it left off.

15:30Are both trains in the same situation

15:33currently?

15:38>> The the train that was online was the

15:41one um that we were concentrating on the

15:44most.

15:45We we had some other issues with the

15:47other train. We

15:49um we had stolen parts off off of the

15:52other train to make one um

15:54So, I'd have to dig into that more.

15:57Um

15:58But, you know, with those like like Zach

16:00said, with those actuated valves being

16:02removed and not having the ability to

16:05goose properly, you know, that kind of

16:08and not waste properly, it kind of

16:09screws up the whole system. So,

16:11uh to be honest with you, Vinnie, I can

16:13look at the other unit, which is on our

16:15list of things to do.

16:17Our goal was really to get the the unit

16:20um that we had been

16:22using back up and working cuz that's the

16:24one that seems to perform the best.

16:26>> Okay, I was just curious. I mean

16:29Yeah.

16:30If the other one was 100% ready, I was

16:33thinking maybe it would be an easy

16:34switch, but yeah, you're right.

16:36>> And the actuator is it just hanging

16:38there, you know, so I don't I don't and

16:40honestly, I wasn't there. I don't know

16:41who did what and it doesn't matter cuz

16:43we just want to move forward. I don't

16:44even know if the actuator is the issue

16:46or if it was the valve that was the

16:48issue. So, again, you know,

16:50>> the valve blew out. He showed me it when

16:52he was here.

16:54>> Okay. And then, you know, on just you

16:56know, he should have replaced it with

16:58the proper valve and hooked the actuator

17:00back up, but he didn't. Maybe he had a

17:01reason for that. I can't speak to that.

17:03Um but, we are definitely it's got our

17:05attention and we're working on it. I

17:07will look at the other unit um

17:10tomorrow to see if that's a possibility.

17:12But, when we turned that other unit on,

17:14we weren't having much luck, either.

17:16>> Yeah, that one always kind of had some

17:18quirks to it.

17:19>> Yeah. And then Vinnie, I think what

17:22Shane said with the the head the

17:24actuator still being attached to the

17:26wiring,

17:28um what we can instruct the team there

17:30to do is is to actually manually uh move

17:34that valve position

17:36um through SCADA and see if the see if

17:39the actuator rotates. I mean, it's not

17:42attached to a valve, but it will at

17:43least let us know

17:45if uh the actuator, which is probably

17:47the the substantial part of the the cost

17:50of the valve, is still functioning.

17:53>> Yeah, I know I know we had a blowout on

17:55that valve cuz he showed me the big hole

17:56in it, but

17:58I don't know if the actuator is still

17:59good, so that would be good to find out.

18:01Yeah, I'm just wondering the condition

18:03of the other train, to be honest with

18:04you.

18:05>> Yeah, we can give you an update on that.

18:06And honestly, you know, we have the

18:08similar system in Starboard, and those

18:10valves, the ones that you know, control

18:12the goosing, they're famous for the

18:14magnetites just wearing through the

18:15body. So, I'm not surprised you've had

18:18that issue. We've had it in Starboard.

18:20We actually keep a spare on the shelf

18:21here for that reason.

18:23Um but it is something we're we're going

18:25to address.

18:26>> Yeah.

18:26>> All right.

18:27>> Thank you.

18:28>> Yep.

18:39>> Is there any further discussion on the

18:40topic?

18:43>> This um limit report looks like the same

18:46report from last month, is it?

18:48>> Yeah, that's cool.

18:49>> Yeah, he said he'll uh we'll send it and

18:52update it tomorrow. I can send it out to

18:54you guys.

18:55>> Okay, I missed it. All right, thank you.

18:59>> Is there any further discussion on the

19:01topic?

19:06Hearing none,

19:07uh new business. Uh the department

19:10processes.

19:12>> Okay. Um I don't know if all of you can

19:15see Jen, but Jen is the new water sewer

19:20admin and we are very excited to have

19:23her.

19:23Um she comes with a history of working

19:28for another municipality in the water

19:29sewer department. So, she knows her

19:32stuff.

19:33Um

19:36the way she did meetings is probably

19:38different than way we do it. So, I am

19:42just want to go over a few things with

19:44how things are done. Like, is there

19:47anything you want changed or anything

19:49you want added? For instance, um the

19:51timing of the agenda packet. We usually

19:53send it out the Monday before the

19:55meeting. Are you guys okay with that? Um

19:59when somebody wants to connect a new

20:02house or like a a brand new house

20:05being built or a house looking to

20:08connect, do you guys want to be notified

20:10of that?

20:11Um

20:14I know we need to come before the

20:16commission when

20:18say someone has a large

20:21um privilege fee.

20:24If it's an existing home,

20:27so um with the assessor speaking, the

20:29assessors want all new connections to be

20:31paid in full, all the privilege fees.

20:33But, existing homes, it is okay to be

20:36assessed over time. So, that is normally

20:38brought to the commission for approval.

20:41Um

20:42aging report looking at outstanding

20:44balances, do you want any information on

20:46that? Do you want any information on

20:48meter reads and how they're doing? Any

20:50faulty meters? Any repeat issues? What

20:54do you guys want because Jen's starting

20:56fresh and she's just wants to make sure

21:00you guys get all the information you

21:01want and need.

21:05>> Well, I'll go I'll go first if it's all

21:07right.

21:08>> Sure.

21:09>> I have no issue with the agenda package

21:11timing. I could

21:12pick whatever's convenient and

21:14logistically useful for your end.

21:17>> Okay.

21:17>> Um the new connection notifications

21:19initially when I got on the board

21:22all the single family homes were going

21:24through us. We kind of

21:26authorized um Vinnie to take care of

21:30those, but I did think that we would

21:32receive some kind of a monthly

21:34list at some point. These are the ones

21:36that got tied in.

21:38And

21:39with our moratorium in the

21:42restrictions on the amount of water we

21:44can treat

21:45I do want to and I don't know who does

21:47this, but I do think we should have a

21:49kind of a running tally of our

21:52um

21:53of our commitments.

21:55>> Okay.

21:55>> We've told this guy he can have 15,000.

21:57I've told this guy he can have nine and

22:00and it's growing closer to our limit.

22:02>> Okay.

22:03>> Um

22:05I I think I I think I would like to have

22:08more information on the revenue you

22:10know, we see costs all the time, but we

22:13we see revenue.

22:14>> Yep.

22:14>> So, I think it would be useful for me to

22:17see

22:19you know, each quarter these are the

22:21>> I mean

22:22we can run reports like from our expense

22:25accounts. She can give you balances on

22:27where things stand as well. Like um

22:30all those bills so you guys can get a

22:32current balance of what is in our O&M

22:34account.

22:35So, anything like that just let us know.

22:37>> Yeah.

22:38>> Let me know.

22:39>> I think the risk for that I see is that

22:41for you know, years and years we've been

22:43relying on a large um invoice that went

22:46to the turnpikes.

22:48You know, at some point we've been

22:50warned that that's going to end and and

22:52I'd like to see

22:53>> Um I just heard that's going up for

22:55rebid.

22:58>> Oh, so they're not going to close it

22:59right away. It's

23:00>> Right.

23:00>> years

23:01>> the time. Yeah.

23:02>> But

23:03Yeah, still like

23:05what are we what are we taking in

23:06because we always talk about what we're

23:08what we're spending.

23:09>> Okay. So, those are my

23:11that's my wish list.

23:17Anybody else?

23:24I know when the quarter ends you all

23:26come in to sign the commitment report

23:28which means that's how much money was

23:30billed out including all the surcharges.

23:33I didn't know if you wanted

23:35anything else.

23:39>> Well, it might be a case if we don't

23:40know what we're not getting.

23:42>> True, yeah.

23:43>> Accurate.

23:49>> Well, moving forward we can

23:51absolutely notify you of any and all new

23:54connections

23:55and then

23:57income.

24:00And if you would you like to know what

24:03is outstanding?

24:05Like what bill what the dollar amount is

24:07for outstanding

24:10bills that haven't been paid? Is that of

24:12any interest?

24:16>> I I I think it's of interest.

24:18>> Okay.

24:19>> Yeah.

24:21>> I think I understood from a few meetings

24:24ago that

24:26um

24:27somehow the town runs those people down

24:29and make sure those don't stay

24:31outstanding for too long but I think

24:33it'd be useful to know

24:36>> Sure.

24:36>> what what that looks like.

24:41>> Um

24:42so maybe this is just a thought. Um you

24:45know how Vinnie does his overall monthly

24:48review, maybe Jen can do something

24:50similar like this many connections, this

24:53much came in and this is where we stand

24:55for outstanding invoices. Would

24:57something like that be good?

25:00She could actually just put it in a memo

25:02and just let you guys know or an email

25:04monthly or

25:06it doesn't even have to be part of the

25:07meeting. She can just send it out to

25:08you.

25:12>> I can't see how we wouldn't like it.

25:14>> Okay.

25:14>> It's It's just isn't it unless it's more

25:17work for her that she can't fit in, but

25:19I'm guessing that that it's not.

25:21>> Jen, would you rather it be part of the

25:23meeting or just like a monthly update to

25:26the commission at through email?

25:29>> Whichever they would prefer. I have no

25:31problem. I've done it both ways in the

25:33past with other boards.

25:37I mean, I can put it into the

25:40agenda packet.

25:42>> Now that I'm thinking about it in New

25:43Connections, why don't we do it just

25:45like You can do a summary.

25:48Like a 2-minute summary of what is going

25:51on.

25:52>> Sure.

25:52>> That way they if they have questions

25:54regarding the connections, that would be

25:55the time to talk about it.

25:57>> Absolutely.

25:58>> Does that make sense?

26:04Okay.

26:07So, next Robert, you want to take over?

26:11>> Up next the next order of new business

26:15is the McLeary engineering proposal for

26:17traffic management plan and master DEP

26:20response.

26:25>> That was all part of your packet for you

26:27to review.

26:33>> Is Is Chris on?

26:35>> He is.

26:35>> He

26:36I see his name.

26:38>> Yes, I was able to jump out of my other

26:40meeting. Good Good evening.

26:42>> Hi.

26:43>> Good evening.

26:45So,

26:46yes, so the traffic management plan

26:49proposal

26:50as you probably been aware of we're

26:53trying to get this Route 20 and other

26:55work that's been associated on on Route

26:5720. We have to develop a MassDOT

27:00compliant traffic management plan.

27:04With this proposal

27:06I I am

27:08going to develop something that I'll be

27:10able to use for anytime any work needs

27:12to be done on on the DOT on on the DOT

27:15right-of-way. So, it it'll also, you

27:18know, we have to get this um that line

27:22cleaned

27:23um

27:24jetted and cameraed.

27:26So, this this component is has been

27:28really was what what's holding us up in

27:30order to get out there in addition to

27:32getting, you know,

27:33um quotes from the folks to get that

27:34worked on.

27:35But, this needs to be submitted as part

27:37of that roadway access permit with the

27:40MassDOT um in order for them to approve

27:43uh to approve this work. What we're

27:45proposing is is really a rolling uh

27:47rolling management plan. So, I have to

27:48put in a bunch of develop a bunch of

27:50different pages and and you know, and a

27:53and the attenuators and the rest of

27:54that. So, they So, once we propose doing

27:57work in the road, um they they they will

28:01um they'll they'll approve it.

28:08>> Are you looking for a a motion from the

28:12commission to approve the

28:14>> Y- yes, yes, exactly. Just so you know

28:16that I have a scope of work and a level

28:18of effort that's I'm looking for. But,

28:20that one end up and also this this two

28:22proposals there. The other one is for

28:23that uh MassDEP response. Um I didn't

28:26want to go ahead and start um you know,

28:28expanding um monies towards that um

28:31towards those responses and those and

28:33those uh requirements without without

28:35the board's approval. And so, that's

28:36that's what I'm looking for motion on

28:37both of those uh both those proposals.

28:40>> Yeah, I think they might be in in

28:42backwards order on my

28:45mine. So, the

28:48the $15,000 one is for the DEP response.

28:52>> Yes. Yeah.

28:52>> The traffic management plan are just

28:55okay. That's the $5,000 effort.

28:57>> Yeah. Yeah. And And everything will be

28:59billed as I typically do as a time and

29:01expense so my service items and hours.

29:03Um but I just wanted to give the

29:05commission um budgetary numbers to to

29:07approve to so I can move move the work

29:10forward.

29:10>> Yep. So, the the $5,000 is is your

29:13portion. There are subcontractors that

29:16are going to

29:18be added to that cost to get that work

29:20done.

29:20>> Yes, to do to get the work done. Mine

29:22will have We will have um MassDOT work

29:25access permits in hand. So, when we

29:28identify the subcontractor to do the

29:30actual work, um this has been the This

29:32has been the hurdle that we've had uh

29:35you know, to to to jump through. So, um

29:37I've determined the level of effort I

29:39need to do that and that's and that's

29:40what that is.

29:41>> Yep. And then you'll come back to us and

29:42say, "Hey, we need another X number to

29:45to hire the

29:47detail to

29:48to actually clean the lines and to

29:51dispose of the stuff."

29:52>> Exactly. Yeah.

29:53>> Yeah. Okay. Well, I I move to approve

29:55the

29:56the traffic management plan for $5,000

30:00in accordance with proposal 0543211P.

30:05>> I'll second it.

30:07>> [clears throat]

30:08>> Is there any further discussion on the

30:10matter?

30:14Hearing none, hearing

30:15Let's take for a roll call vote.

30:17>> Mr. Sensale?

30:19>> I.

30:20>> Mr. Uh Mr. Gagner?

30:23>> I.

30:23>> Mr. Graton?

30:24>> I.

30:25>> Mr. Thomas Coleman?

30:27Mr. Robert Coleman?

30:29>> I.

30:34>> Okay, the the next proposal is the um is

30:37for that MassDEP uh response to start

30:40pulling together um

30:42the items that were listed uh

30:45as a result of the uh that the BEP,

30:49we'll call it an enforcement meeting. Um

30:51so I just again putting together uh a

30:54level of effort to start identifying the

30:57requirements for updating the O&M, the

30:59IPP, um and getting into the the C Mom

31:02and that type of I I and and and at

31:04first just respon- putting a formal

31:07response together to uh let them know

31:09that you know the commission's aware of

31:11this and um and your intent is to comply

31:14with all of these uh requirements.

31:18>> Yep.

31:19So

31:21there was an email from Jim Jim Laughlin

31:25um and then a follow-up uh that listed

31:29you know

31:30I don't know, 15 things on it.

31:33Is everything on that list part of this

31:36scope?

31:37>> When we get in So I have seen this been

31:39to a couple of versions of the O&M,

31:41Eric, so depending upon, you know, if

31:44we're talking about this an O&M that

31:45came with the original plant. There was

31:48another O&M that was submitted on behalf

31:50of uh you know, that it that Vinny had

31:52had submitted um

31:54really for updates. Uh it it's it's to

31:57it's to get a get a handle on, you know,

31:59dig through these files and I know most

32:01of them have been started at, you know,

32:03to a point. It's to to let them know and

32:06how deep do we have to get into them?

32:07Let them know that hey, yes again, we're

32:09here. Um there might be some additional

32:11work that comes back, but I I just

32:12wanted to be able to get the

32:14you know, uh roll up my sleeves and and

32:16and dig into these things and and get

32:18the ball rolling. If uh if I come across

32:21additional um requirements that that are

32:24going to take extra costs, I'll come

32:25back to the commission for those.

32:27>> Yeah, right. And and since the work is

32:30like

32:31as you spend time on it, it

32:33>> Yes, exactly. Yeah.

32:34>> But

32:35>> [clears throat]

32:35>> my interest I think is identifying some

32:37tasks that maybe we need to go, you

32:40know, someplace else on to get them

32:41done. And if I could just run some of

32:44these things by you.

32:45>> Yeah.

32:46>> Um the CWMP.

32:48>> Right.

32:49>> Is that in You think that's in this

32:5015,000 or do you think this is something

32:52we should go find?

32:53>> Yeah, we we may need to you know, we may

32:56need to bring outside sources in for

32:58that or you know, it's it's it's just I

33:01know there's again there's been some

33:03framework done there. I just don't know

33:05to what, you know,

33:07degree that the state you know, that

33:09they may want a little more

33:10comprehensive than you know, than we can

33:12than we can do. So, we may want to

33:13outsource that.

33:14>> Yeah. And when you say we should

33:15outsource this, is that is that MacLeod

33:17is that the Water Sewer Commission?

33:20>> I think I think I can get you to the

33:22right you know,

33:23work on

33:25obtaining, you know, getting a quote for

33:27the right resources to accomplish those

33:29so that you're not, you know,

33:31um

33:32you guys don't have to, you know, go out

33:33and try to

33:34I mean, you obviously being in the

33:36business probably have some resources,

33:38but you may be, you know, busy with

33:40other things. So,

33:41>> Well, I mean

33:42>> I can assist in that.

33:43>> In 2002, when I was on the board last,

33:47we needed to get this done and we hired

33:49Tiehm Bond to do it

33:51at a cost of $600,000.

33:53>> Holy smokes. Well, yeah.

33:55>> So, you know, that's a big

33:57>> Yeah.

33:58>> I think now it's it's not the same level

34:01effort. There's

34:02you know, 20-year-old one that they can

34:04update, but I think if that's something

34:06that is going to get kicked back to the

34:07board,

34:08you know, maybe we start that process

34:10sooner rather later because

34:12Dan Dan made it kind of

34:16painfully obvious to us that that the

34:18CWMP is the

34:21is the gateway to get money from the

34:23state.

34:24>> Sure. Okay.

34:25>> So, so some of these other ones in here

34:28is the

34:29uh

34:30collection system mapping.

34:33You think that's something you're going

34:34to tackle?

34:35>> Yes, because we do like again, like I

34:38know that there's some been some GIS

34:40work through previous consultants.

34:43You know, I

34:44I really want to delve into them and see

34:46to what degree they're completed so that

34:49we can, you know, um

34:51determine what what the additional needs

34:52are to get those done, you know. Um this

34:54is you've done a lot of work as you

34:56said, you know, so it's just a matter of

34:58finding the latest revisions and and

35:00getting those updated.

35:02>> And in the IPP?

35:03>> Exactly, yeah.

35:04>> In this, okay.

35:05>> That would be it.

35:07>> Um then I I move to approve the $15,000

35:11proposal 054-3211P

35:15for the assistance with the response

35:17system STEAP.

35:30>> Um I second.

35:35>> Is there any further discussion of the

35:37matter?

35:40Hearing none, I'll call for a roll call

35:42vote.

35:43>> Mr. Sanso.

35:45>> I.

35:45>> Chick Agner.

35:47>> I.

35:48>> Mr. Gratton.

35:49>> I.

35:50>> Mr. Thomas Coleman.

35:52>> I.

35:53>> Mr. Robert Coleman.

35:55>> I.

36:00>> Great, I have I got to run back into

36:02this I'm Melvin Dudley, so I apologize

36:05for the interruption.

36:06>> Thanks, Chris.

36:07>> Have a good night. Thanks, bye-bye.

36:09>> Goodbye.

36:15>> All right, with um

36:17with Chris

36:19um leaving, that

36:22leaves Vinnie.

36:24You're up.

36:25>> All right.

36:26So, this month I worked on those faulty

36:29meters. There were 17 of them on the

36:31list. I visited every house.

36:33Some of them I was just able to reread.

36:35Some of them Veolia staff reread.

36:38Um

36:39There were three of them I installed new

36:41meters in. Two of them got new MXUs.

36:45The

36:4641 Lakeview

36:48He was in last month's meeting.

36:50He looking for an abatement on his bill.

36:54I went out there. I installed a new

36:55meter. It still wouldn't activate. So,

36:58when I started troubleshooting it, I

37:00found a broken wire behind the MXU.

37:03So, that straightened out. His meter is

37:05going to work fine for the next quarter.

37:08Myself, Mr. Robert Coleman, and Thomas

37:11Coleman went out to

37:14the five East rest area, Treehouse

37:16Brewery, and Amazon and hand-delivered

37:18the notices about not flushing things

37:21down the sewer system.

37:24>> Did one Did one go to stores or no?

37:28>> No, because stores isn't on that pump

37:30station.

37:30>> Okay. Okay. Okay, just

37:31>> Yeah, we only went to the people on that

37:33pump station.

37:34>> Okay.

37:35>> And then, the last item is um

37:38the Griffin Road

37:40water extension.

37:42They

37:43>> Oh, yeah.

37:43>> They sent me the shops request.

37:46>> Where does that stand?

37:46>> Last week

37:47>> Yeah.

37:48>> I applied for the permit and it said I

37:51didn't have permission to request that

37:53permit. So, I got Andrew, the town

37:56administrator, and Nick,

37:58the highway department super. I got them

38:01involved. They weren't able to submit it

38:03either.

38:04So, Andrew kicked it up to MassDOT, got

38:07them involved. And as of today, none of

38:10us still have permission to submit

38:11permits.

38:12>> Hm.

38:13>> So, once that's resolved, we'll get that

38:15permit and hopefully they can start

38:17working on that extension.

38:20Do you know who owns it?

38:21>> working on it?

38:22>> Um well, I don't know if they started

38:24working on it, but they shouldn't be

38:26working on it.

38:29I got I mean they could dig the whole

38:31other end of that street without issue,

38:33but the Route 20 side we don't have the

38:35permit for yet.

38:51>> I mean,

38:52is that it?

38:54>> Yeah, that was it. Um

38:55>> Um

38:55>> The meters I went out there probably

38:58six or seven different times to work on

39:00them.

39:01So, even though it doesn't seem like

39:03much

39:04it ate up quite a bit of time.

39:06>> Um

39:08yes, Zach, the other Zach, did meter

39:10reads

39:11and we had issues with the

39:15it getting it to import. So, we had to

39:17have tech support call them come out.

39:20It was just some random rare thing that

39:22happened and he was able to get things

39:24squared away. So, now Jen's going to get

39:25started on

39:27all of that.

39:30>> Is there any chance they did an audit on

39:32how many of the B type meters we have?

39:35>> He got up to over 107 and stopped.

39:40>> Are the B's the

39:42The B's are the new ones, correct?

39:43>> No, C's are the new one.

39:45>> C's are the new ones. Okay.

39:48>> So, he after speaking, he's going to put

39:50together a proposal about changing

39:52everything over,

39:53you know, using an iPad, just making it

39:57more

39:58current and easier.

40:01So, uh

40:01>> The problem that I said before with that

40:03was if we had too many of the older

40:05meters we'd have to change them all.

40:08>> Yeah.

40:08>> But that handheld also getting old.

40:10>> Yeah.

40:11>> So, yeah. We don't give those away for

40:14sure.

40:15>> Yeah, it's like going on 9 years old.

40:18>> Yeah.

40:21I guess we'll see how uh

40:23Do you already have the list of who

40:25didn't read?

40:27>> Um no, we're working on that.

40:29>> All right. When you get it, could you

40:30guys share it with me?

40:31>> Of course.

40:32>> Thank you.

40:37>> Um

40:41The Uh Minnie, did you see the email

40:42about the the new connection?

40:44>> I already sent the reply.

40:46>> Okay.

40:48And lastly, my thing is for Tom and

40:53Robert

40:54at the last meeting Eric had stated he's

40:57going to be busy and out of town and

40:59Tom, you had said you would

41:02like to be involved in the interview

41:03process for the superintendent.

41:06>> Yes.

41:06>> Um I know Lynn sent out applications and

41:09resumes. Were you able to connect with

41:11her about setting up a time?

41:13>> I am not.

41:15>> Okay.

41:17>> All right, we'll do that.

41:23We'll get that uh we'll get that

41:25resolved.

41:31>> I think

41:33that's

41:33all I have. Anybody else? This is

41:36probably the shortest meeting we've had

41:38in a long time.

41:40>> Well, uh

41:43I believe that

41:44we would

41:46There has been a meeting There's been

41:47meeting uh earlier today where we we

41:50have had reviews for

41:53well, pitches from two of the

41:56two contractors seeking to work for us

41:59to operate our plant

42:01and uh

42:03I believe that today would be the best

42:05day to at least discuss uh the

42:08possibility of selecting one, if not

42:10outright selecting one.

42:11>> Well, just letting you know it's not on

42:13the agenda.

42:19>> So, I don't know what the rules are

42:22because I suppose it would be a no-no as

42:24of time of posting whether it today was

42:26the day, but

42:27>> Yeah.

42:28>> No, we're not doing it today, Bob.

42:29>> put to the next month.

42:33>> We're We're definitely not doing it

42:34today.

42:35Um

42:37>> All right.

42:37>> The date will be determined shortly.

42:40>> Okay.

42:42Will it be the next meeting or

42:44an earlier

42:45>> We don't have a definitive date.

42:47>> All right.

42:54Was there any other business to be

42:55discussed?

43:01Uh hearing none,

43:03I introduce a motion. Uh the next

43:05meeting will be on November 4th.

43:08And I introduce

43:10>> Yeah, November 4th.

43:11>> a motion

43:13to uh

43:15end the meeting.

43:19>> I second.

43:21>> Who motioned? I didn't hear that.

43:23>> I did. I introduced a motion to end the

43:25meeting.

43:26>> You You can't motion.

43:28>> Oh, even to end the meeting?

43:30>> Yeah.

43:30>> That was I thought that was an

43:31exception.

43:34>> Motion to adjourn?

43:36>> I second. Uh I make a motion to adjourn

43:39the meeting.

43:41>> Second.

43:42>> I second.

43:43>> I second it.

43:43>> [clears throat]

43:45>> All right, Mr. Senso.

43:47>> I.

43:48>> Mr. Gagner.

43:49>> I.

43:49>> Mr. Grott.

43:50>> I.

43:51>> Mr. Thomas Coleman.

43:53>> I.

43:53>> Mr. Robert Coleman.

43:55>> I.

43:56>> All right, Jen will have a folder for

43:58you. She is located outside of Andrew's

44:01office. Um Robert, if you could just

44:04sign off on bills and then um

44:08I need three sig- or she needs three

44:09signatures for uh the minutes.

44:12>> Okay.

44:13>> Okay?

44:14>> All right. Thank you.

44:15>> Great. You guys have an excellent

44:17evening and a nice long weekend if you

44:20get Monday off.

44:21>> All right. Be well, everybody.

44:22>> You too.

44:23>> Goodbye.

44:24>> Okay.

44:24>> Bye.