2026-10-28 - Vision Committee

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  • The committee held an orientation and training session led by Housing and Community Development staff for the FY28 funding review cycle. No funding decisions or application votes were taken. See Vision Committee FY28 Funding Cycle.
  • Staff reviewed conflict-of-interest and confidentiality policies; members must sign forms and recuse themselves from discussions and votes involving organizations they are affiliated with.
  • The committee discussed becoming an official board, adopting bylaws, and a pending ordinance expected before the Mayor and Commission in December.
  • Staff described the federal Community Development Block Grant funds (with caps on administration and public services), the HOME program for affordable housing construction (which the committee will not score), a county-funded housing counseling program (committee rates community impact) and the Community Partnerships Program, which the committee alone scores on a 100-point scale weighted toward outcomes and performance, then financial ability, community involvement, and organizational capacity.
  • Timeline: applications go to the committee December 14, reviews are due January 29 and the scoring meeting is February 17, followed by a Mayor and Commission work session April 13, agenda setting April 20 and a voting session May 4.
  • Members elected officers for the year.

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01:42Oh sure, yeah. We got some staff joining

01:44us as well this morning that'll be

01:45helping our presentation. So, love to

01:47introduce ourselves.

01:47>> Hi, I'm Nick Stepp. I'm the program

01:49housing coordinator here at HCD.

01:51>> So, I work in the local housing

01:53division. So, we do both compliance and

01:56day-to-day housing.

01:57>> [snorts]

01:57>> I'm Marcia

01:59and I'm the community development

02:00administrator and I work in the

02:01community services

02:09>> Eazy-E

02:28>> Uh my name is Joe Hill. I work for

02:29Robins Financial Opportunity.

02:32I've worked a little bit there. I've

02:34been in Athens in banking for

02:38recent years.

02:41Yeah, I got uh kids in college and

02:44one that's a junior at Central. So,

02:46first year I've been in the county.

02:48>> Uh my name is Michael London. I've lived

02:50in Athens this time for over 20 years.

02:54Went to school here. My children went to

02:56school here. My grandchildren will go to

02:57school here in a year.

02:59Um and semi-retired after three

03:03different retirements. So,

03:08>> Um I'm Ryan Thompson. This is my first

03:10year doing this. Um

03:12I'm a fifth year mechanical engineering

03:14student right now at UGA. Also studying

03:17masters in social policy.

03:21>> Thank you all. It's nice to have you

03:23this morning. Thanks for sharing a

03:24little bit about what you do. And um

03:26so, basically today the goal of this

03:29meeting is going to be to do a little

03:30bit of training. It's nice to again that

03:32we have all of our new folks here cuz

03:33we're going to be covering some stuff

03:35related to, you know, the main reason

03:37you all are here, which is reviewing and

03:38scoring uh current FY20A applications

03:42for three different funding sources. So,

03:44we'll go through uh member orientation,

03:46which will cover just general

03:47information about HC D, uh and then

03:50specifics about the different funding

03:52sources, past funded projects, things of

03:55that sort, and then kind of looking

03:57forward

03:58um

03:59you know, upcoming dates for when the

04:01applications will be released to you and

04:02when they are reviewed, what the scoring

04:04matrix will look like for different

04:06programs and things of that sort. So,

04:08uh

04:16This is Lizette. She's also a community

04:18impact specialist on the CI team.

04:21Uh and then yeah, well just so you can

04:23see the agenda, we'll cover a few

04:24different things. We'll cover the

04:25upcoming schedule. Uh there's some

04:27conflict of interest confidentiality

04:29policies and procedures we'll cover. We

04:31got email out to you all yesterday, but

04:32also there's copies on the table, so

04:34we'll need everyone to sign those.

04:36Uh and then I've got some general

04:37updates on the vision committee and now

04:39that it's been voted in as an

04:41official board of the organization,

04:43there's some various things that we'll

04:44discuss there. Uh we actually only have

04:47one returning officer kind of related to

04:50that, who is Allison Holloway. She's a

04:52vice chair from last year. She

04:53unfortunately had a conflicting meeting

04:55and can't be here for about halfway

04:57through. So, I've bumped down our new

04:59selection officer. So, we'll take a few

05:01minutes uh and vote in a new chair and

05:04secretary as well for the upcoming year.

05:07And so, Matt is going to be taking our

05:08notes for right now. Uh and then the

05:11week forward after that, the secretary

05:12will kind of handle those duties for

05:15meeting minutes and things of that sort.

05:17So,

05:18we can get started with the presentation

05:20and you know, we'll we'll have time for

05:22questions at the end as well. So, we'll

05:24go through some of this and I'll send

05:25this presentation out to you all at the

05:27end of the meeting once we're done.

05:28>> Yeah, I'm Lizette Aguilar Pi and I'm

05:30Alejandra Cavazos, the assistant

05:32director of HCD. Also, I'm on tech duty

05:35today.

05:36Um along those lines, just a reminder

05:37this is being live streamed. Um so,

05:40that's that's what this little owl thing

05:42is over here. And the recording will be

05:44available on the website just for future

05:45reference. So,

05:46>> Yes, thank you for the disclaimer.

05:48>> Yes.

05:51Yeah.

05:52All right.

05:53>> So, just this is our mission statement.

05:55Housing Community Development Department

05:57provides funding for the creation and

05:58rehabilitation of affordable housing,

06:01fosters and coordinates for

06:02disadvantaged populations, and promotes

06:05mobility among residents of the County.

06:08So that's kind of the main

06:10We just feel again all of what we're

06:12doing with all of the funding sources

06:13and things of that nature.

06:21My computer hates a presentation day. It

06:24always decides that it wants to mess up

06:26on me. So

06:32I can't see that we got the volume cuz I

06:33can't see anything.

06:36I have Bridget outside that I can hear

06:39this and hear that.

06:53Oh,

06:542 minutes 2 minutes.

06:57We're trying to be punctual today.

07:18I'll go ahead and cover our conflict of

07:20interest and all that stuff that we

07:21want.

07:22>> Mhm.

07:22>> Okay.

07:23Well, we'll go around all of this

07:25conflict of interest.

07:27The one that I don't have to stop

07:28spinning in front of you and an email

07:30like I said yesterday you should have

07:32received uh the conflict of interest and

07:35confidentiality

07:37Um and just kind of a note on that so

07:40emails and things that go out any

07:41communication forward uh

07:43all be through your ACC gov email.

07:46That's just to kind of keep things

07:48streamlined. Open records request things

07:50of that sort it keeps all that very

07:51simple and streamlined and easy. So

07:53we'll do all of our official

07:54communication

07:56uh over that. You know, you can always

07:57call me if you have a quick question or

07:58something as well if you're if you're

08:00having an issue with your email or

08:01something like that please let me know.

08:03I can reach out to IT and we can we can

08:05help you get that sorted. So uh the

08:07first one we can talk about is our

08:09conflict of interest policy. So,

08:12this is really just a space uh this

08:15includes the policy and then on the back

08:17I'll need to get one of these one of

08:18these signed from each of you today.

08:21Uh but really a lot of you are very

08:23involved in the community in various

08:24ways, which is wonderful uh on boards,

08:28connected to previous you know,

08:30non-profit organizations previously,

08:32things like that. So, really what we

08:34want to know here is are there any

08:37connections you have in outside of this

08:39group that might cause, you know,

08:41perceived or you know, just some sort of

08:45conflict of interest in general or

08:48something that could have the appearance

08:49of personal gain. So, for example, this

08:52is obviously, you know, obvious, but

08:54like if you're on the board of an

08:55organization or the executive director

08:57of an organization that's applying for

08:58funds,

09:00you have a major conflict of interest.

09:01You can't vote and discuss that. So, uh

09:04we do have a couple of those. And the

09:06way we handle that is essentially the

09:08person who is maybe on the board or who

09:11is works for the organization that's

09:12applying for funding, that person would

09:14just recuse themselves from voting on

09:16that particular application. And then

09:18during any discussion [clears throat]

09:19in our February meeting, they would just

09:21step out of the room and that's how we

09:24typically handle that. So, this really

09:26it's not a major issue, it's just we

09:28need to know up front so that we know

09:29how to handle it and we can talk about

09:31it in the most appropriate way possible.

09:32So, if you have any questions about

09:35whether a relationship with an

09:36organization may or may not be a

09:37conflict of interest that you want to

09:38talk about, you know, right after this

09:40meeting before you complete this, I'd be

09:42happy to do that with you as well.

09:44Uh

09:45So, what you'll be signing that you

09:47agree and acknowledge the conflict of

09:48interest policy and then the back is

09:50where you can actually list out those

09:53uh conflicts of interest that you know

09:54of or may have.

09:56So.

09:57Any questions about that one?

10:02All right.

10:03And then our confidentiality policy,

10:05this is something that we distributed

10:06this year and it's something that's

10:08covered in the new BAC manual that I

10:12probably sent out to you all that it was

10:13approved in

10:15November or December of 2025. So, it

10:18includes a section

10:20on confidentiality, but really this is

10:22just acknowledging that you know, you're

10:25going to receive some information that

10:27may or may not be appropriate to share

10:30out in the public, frankly speaking. So,

10:33you're going to have access to things

10:35like we require organizations to submit

10:37audits. They're submitting budgets.

10:39They're submitting all of this kind of

10:41sensitive information about their agency

10:43that's required and helpful for their

10:44application process, but it's not

10:47they're not submitting it with the

10:48understanding that it's going to be out

10:50there for everybody to see. Now, they do

10:52all know that our stuff is subject to

10:54public records requests, but not

10:56everything is subject to public records

10:58requests. So, this is basically just you

11:00acknowledging that

11:02anything that you receive, you're not

11:04going to

11:05you're going to keep that in confidence,

11:07and anything that, you know, may be

11:09acquired through another records request

11:11that is on here, and that is how that

11:13would be handled in the public records

11:15So, I mean any questions about the

11:16confidentiality policy?

11:18Okay. Obviously, these meetings are live

11:20streamed. We discussed that, and so this

11:22is public knowledge, public information.

11:25So, there there are elements of that to

11:28that.

11:32Correct.

11:34The other thing that we've got up is our

11:37taking new vision committee member

11:39trainings and things like that. I know

11:41believe pretty much everyone has

11:43completed that based on the report I

11:44looked at, but does anyone have any

11:45questions or have any you know

11:48concerns about anything within this

11:49training that you want to discuss, or

11:51any issues with completing the

11:52trainings?

11:54I got a couple certificates of

11:55completion from the public folks. So,

11:56thanks for sending that. I also get a

11:58report every month, but I can see that

12:00they're all done.

12:03Good job.

12:06>> Great.

12:07>> It's still on.

12:07>> And then you're hearing all the clicks

12:08and clacks.

12:09>> I can't help it.

12:10>> I'm going to keep on It's okay.

12:14>> Um

12:15Let's go ahead and jump down item D as

12:18well. Specifically just to pull up

12:21separate update on bylaws and BAC

12:24ordinance. So,

12:25uh one thing that we'll discuss in a

12:27little bit more detail throughout the

12:28presentation is the vision committee

12:30became formalized for the authority

12:32commission uh at a meeting December 11th

12:36last year. So, uh part of that was at

12:39the meeting that we had in the first

12:41recently, we

12:43the the previous members of the vision

12:45committee

12:46all voted on board officers and met and

12:49got a sub committee to create bylaws, uh

12:51which will then guide how we

12:54move forward as a vision committee. And

12:56I sent those out to everyone over email

12:57at some point, but to refresh your

12:59memory, I put a couple of printed copies

13:01of the bylaws up on the table so if

13:02you'd like to take a look. Uh

13:06And so, really that just covers

13:08attendance, uh

13:10things of that sort, you know, if you

13:11don't

13:12don't attend

13:14all the meetings, it could

13:16you know, jeopardize your position on

13:17the vision committee. You could be voted

13:18to be removed cuz there's really only

13:20two. And so, it's important that we're

13:23able to make it to all of the meetings

13:25that that we have.

13:27Uh

13:28and then

13:29part of that that will be coming up to

13:30is that there's a new BA

13:33Basically, that's all done good. We've

13:35got bylaws. We've got these things.

13:36We've got officers. The process is in

13:38place, but there's a new BAC ordinance

13:40that will be voted on by the mayor and

13:42commission, hopefully in December. Uh

13:44that will actually codify all those

13:46things

13:47um that we have been doing bylaws, that

13:49type of stuff.

13:51>> I got it running.

13:53>> Okay.

13:55>> I'm sorry.

13:56Choice number one was

13:57>> Great. Uh which one was that again?

14:02>> I got this one as the old group.

14:05>> This one?

14:05The other one?

14:07Right.

14:08But before we jump into that, any

14:10questions about anything provided in the

14:11bylaws, BAC ordinance, any of that stuff

14:13that we've been talking about?

14:15Okay.

14:16Well, we'll jump back to item C now and

14:18we will get into the actual

14:20presentation. So, I'll continue with

14:22this. I've got a few things I'm going to

14:23share with you all and then I'll be

14:24covering later in the presentation

14:27CVP stuff specifically, but we've got

14:29some folks that you all met earlier from

14:32our housing team and our community

14:33development team that will be discussing

14:35CDBG and housing counseling related

14:37projects for you as well. So, what is

14:39the role of the vision committee? So,

14:42as you all probably know, the vision

14:43committee is you know, citizen advisory

14:46group of 10 Athens-Clarke County

14:47residents

14:48appointed by the mayor for 3-year terms.

14:51So, really what you're here to do is to

14:54provide input on, you know, community

14:56needs that may be addressed through our

14:58different funding sources. So, this year

14:59that you're what you're reviewing,

15:01community development block grant, CDBG

15:03for short, it's probably what I'll keep

15:04calling it, our housing counseling

15:06program, and community partnership

15:09program funding, CVP. So, there's a lot

15:11of acronyms, so just kind of if you have

15:13questions or need these spelled out, let

15:15me know.

15:16But, you are going to be evaluating

15:17these applications to make sure, you

15:18know, they appropriately appropriately

15:20meet the consolidated plan goals,

15:23address prioritized community needs,

15:27and you know, ultimately who it benefits

15:29for the community based on the criteria

15:31that you're going to rate as part of

15:32these.

15:33And then you'll also, you know, provide

15:35feedback on these applications. We

15:37really encourage that throughout the

15:38process. Zoom Grants, which is the

15:41platform where you'll be reviewing these

15:43applications, allows you not just to

15:44rank and score the application, but also

15:46provide comments and feedback, which is

15:48incredibly helpful when we're providing

15:50technical assistance for agencies in

15:52future application years. I can go back

15:55and pull and say, well, you know, my

15:57this

15:58committee Well, not your comments are

16:00confident. So, I wouldn't say who said

16:02it, but I'd say, "This person on the

16:03vision committee said, you know,

16:05the application maybe could have been

16:06improved in this way." And then they can

16:08use that to then better

16:10their standing for next year. So,

16:12we'll

16:13have this meeting, obviously, and then

16:14we've got one more meeting, which is

16:16already set for February 17th where we

16:19will actually need to discuss your

16:21rankings and then score and make those

16:23sundry recommendations.

16:31So these are our current bidding

16:32committee members.

16:34Uh so we these kind of just broken up by

16:37year

16:38and where you are but we've got

16:40Ron. Well, obviously you all know who is

16:42here today but the folks who aren't able

16:44to who are aren't here today uh Zachary

16:46Crew isn't here

16:48and then Chabot Hollabaugh and then

16:50Allison Always will be here probably

16:53around

16:5410 a.m. she said or 10:30 5 so we'll

16:57have her joining us

16:58and then

17:01Hey, I've been seeing you talk and you

17:02shouldn't have sleeping on the sleeping

17:04on the bidding

17:05committee shortly.

17:11These are some important considerations.

17:13We've covered some of this so yeah, so

17:15this was approved in November of 2025

17:18excuse me.

17:19So we're now you know the bidding

17:21committee is a formalized board

17:22authority commission

17:24so we

17:25will select officers in accordance to

17:27the bylaws. We've already developed

17:29those.

17:30They may change slightly

17:32language wise after the AC ordinance is

17:35approved. So if that happens, you know

17:39we're doing the documents and things of

17:40that nature.

17:42Uh but one of the other requirements

17:43obviously is that members must complete

17:46that five

17:47module training course on Kate May which

17:49you've all done and then we also will

17:52have to submit an annual report to Mary

17:55Commission outlining key activities. So

17:57that is a responsibility

17:59that we can talk about how to do that.

18:00It's something that will fall to the

18:02chair of the commission but obviously

18:03support from your staff agencies which

18:06are myself and

18:08Kate May.

18:10And then we talked about conflict of

18:11interest and again just please remember

18:13attendance to these meetings

18:15is is critical. So if you could just go

18:17ahead and mark off that February

18:19today so that it's on the calendar and

18:21you know what's happening.

18:23Cuz that wrap really is the most

18:25significant

18:26whole deal.

18:27You'll be involved in.

18:31Uh and then the expectation is that you

18:32will complete all reviews of all

18:35projects that you're tasked with.

18:43Just some additional important

18:44considerations.

18:46The subject to open records and open

18:47meeting laws, so we do stuff like that.

18:49We can livestream these. We'll record

18:51meeting minutes. They'll be signed,

18:53approved, and voted on. And then agendas

18:55and minutes will be posted online. Um

18:58ample advanced notice has to be given

19:01to the public about these meetings,

19:02which hopefully y'all don't have to

19:03worry about us. I'm here to take care of

19:05so I'll I'll post these things on the

19:07public calendar, post them on the little

19:09message boards outside of this building,

19:11create the agendas, post them on

19:12Facebook, and all that stuff. So, really

19:15the responsibility of

19:17of you all is just to kind of once we

19:19have officers and everything in place,

19:20put all that together, kind of

19:21facilitate the management portion of the

19:23whole process, and then submit that to

19:25me and get it appointments together.

19:32It's all about staff liaison as myself

19:34and Al Hunter. We basically will just

19:36kind of will lead the process and just

19:38kind of help facilitate what you're all

19:40doing.

19:42There's a mixture of staff involvement

19:44and your involvement as part of rating

19:46and ranking applications will will talk

19:48about later. Um

19:50but really so again, that is your

19:52starting. So, for CDBG Housing

19:54Counseling, you have you all are scoring

19:56just a portion of the application and

19:58staff is also scoring a portion. Um so,

20:00then there's combined things come

20:02together. The CBP programs, the

20:04Community Partnerships program, is

20:06unique for y'all because it's it's

20:07totally up to you. It is your ratings

20:11and rankings are the only factor that go

20:13into whether or not CDBG gets funded or

20:14not.

20:15Uh and so, it's important, you know,

20:18and that you just look at all the

20:19applications and are aware and

20:21understand the rating criteria and

20:22things of that sort. So, when we're

20:24going through your ranking and scoring

20:26in February,

20:28you know, that will totally be up to you

20:30all. We won't be

20:31swaying your decision anyway. We can

20:33provide feedback, we can give you any

20:34information to help your decision, but

20:37ultimately that decision is up to you.

20:40And so, yeah, you'll be able to consider

20:42past performance for agencies who's been

20:44funded in the past. We'll get that all

20:45to you all in ample time to review.

20:49And then, Zoom Grants which I'm not

20:51going to cover today because

20:53it's you're not going to get the info

20:54applications open to you until December.

20:57So, I'll email that training out to you

20:58how to access Zoom Grants a little bit

21:00closer to the time.

21:02It's not super tricky or anything, but

21:04it can be a little

21:05nuanced and I don't want you to forget

21:06about it. So, we'll get that to you

21:08closer to when it's available.

21:13Great. So, the next few slides are just

21:14going to be on our different funding

21:15sources, kind of some

21:17past examples that have been awarded,

21:18kind of what they're for, things of that

21:20nature.

21:22And how we start with Oh, well, yes, so

21:25this is just an overview. So, you all

21:27are not obviously

21:29tied to all of these, but regular annual

21:31funding that we have is the Community

21:32Development Block Grant, the Home

21:34Investment Partnerships Program,

21:36Continuum of Care, and then general

21:38funds including CDBG and housing

21:39counseling. And then some other

21:41supplemental funding we have is a Lead

21:42Hazard Reduction and Capacity Building

21:45Grant,

21:46CDBG, American Rescue Plan Act. Those

21:49were a product specific to

21:52COVID and so this is going away, but our

21:55bill will be finished up at the end of

21:56this year, but still kind of happening

21:58so let that be known.

21:59And then, HOME ARP as well, very

22:01similar.

22:06We'll turn it over to Abe or Martha. Are

22:09you guys Are you regular grants

22:14>> So, just real quick, I'm one

22:17The Community Development Block Grant

22:18funding is

22:20As a county, it's an entitlement

22:21community which is awarded funds and the

22:24basis of formula grant by HUD. And I'm

22:26not sure but I think we're going to the

22:28amounts a little bit later on, but we

22:29get about one to two million dollars

22:31annually that's part of this program. It

22:34covers things from supporting affordable

22:36housing, public facility improvements,

22:39economic development activities, which

22:41are slightly different than general

22:43economic development is mostly for

22:45neighborhood revitalization, things of

22:47that nature, and then some public

22:48service dollars.

22:51I'm going to get to part cuz I know

22:52there's another slide there that talks

22:54about the breakdown, so

22:56Okay.

22:57So,

22:58So for last year, um

23:00like I said, we got 1.247 million. There

23:03are some regulatory caps that come along

23:05with the federal funding.

23:07Uh we take 20% is allowable for

23:10administrative costs, that comes off the

23:12top, and then there is a limit to how

23:15much money we can put into services,

23:16which is 15% of our allocation, which we

23:20get a lot of applications and only about

23:21$180,000 to award. So, it's very small

23:25portion of CDBG that goes towards public

23:27service activities.

23:29Um the bulk of that is banned for

23:31economic

23:32remainder is economic development and um

23:35affordable housing

23:37um activities, and then we do have

23:40on occasion the past few years had some

23:41public facility improvements that we've

23:43done.

23:44Um some park improvements we did at the

23:46low to income neighborhoods. Everything

23:48that we do for CDBG has to benefit low

23:50and moderate income neighborhoods or

23:52individuals.

23:55>> Next page.

23:56>> What is that?

23:58>> Yes.

23:58>> What does that mean from

23:59I guess I could be eating dinner

24:02standpoint?

24:02>> Okay, so depending is a sliding scale

24:05that HUD publishes annually. So, um

24:08moderate income is 80% of the average

24:10for the area. So,

24:13think for a family of four and a half

24:14people, it might be like $80,000 for a

24:16family of four or less.

24:18Um but depending on your family size,

24:21there is a sliding scale, and HUD

24:23doesn't really know

24:25I don't see any control over how that

24:26was determined. I will say they are

24:29doing some new things with a sliding

24:32scale for some of the other funding for

24:33CVP or CVP, which is slightly different,

24:36but they are close. Um but you won't

24:39have to get into that detail.

24:41We can always ask questions and answer

24:43questions. Yes, sir.

24:45>> You know, when you're going down that

24:46line

24:47in the FY '27 142 mil,

24:50and then you start splitting it out

24:53into three different program areas,

24:56that's not a lot of money.

24:57>> It is not.

24:58>> So,

25:00why do you decide to split it

25:02into three pieces rather than just

25:05concentrating it in in one particular

25:08program area where you can have a bigger

25:10impact?

25:11>> We can do that. It depends on the

25:13applications that we receive and how

25:15those rankings pan out. So,

25:18the

25:19we have not our consolidated plan. I

25:21think there might be a a slide in here

25:22that establishes some priorities um that

25:25was established in 2025 for our con plan

25:27for the for the five years that governs

25:29the funding for CDBG and those

25:31priorities help us rank and review those

25:35applications as they come in.

25:37>> Well, Carl, that leads me to a question

25:39I was going to ask you, but I didn't

25:40want to interrupt you.

25:44On the previous chart, you talked about

25:47for CDBG,

25:50the rating is just one factor.

25:54So, what are the other factors and who

25:56decides?

25:58>> Yeah.

25:58>> Oh, sorry.

25:59Yeah, but we will get into the details

26:02about it. The rating your rating is only

26:04one factor. So, like staff's rating and

26:07then the vision committee's rating,

26:08those your rating are different.

26:09Fortunately, the application which we'll

26:10talk about, there's a section for you

26:12all. And then ultimately, I mean, we

26:14recommend funding to the mayor's

26:16commission. They that's kind of how

26:18they decide on factors.

26:20>> Let me follow that up with a

26:23question and that is,

26:25you know, it talk talks about in the

26:27statement for the committee,

26:30it talks about providing input on

26:32emerging emerging community needs.

26:35So,

26:37who does that needs assessment, how

26:39often is it done, and what role do we

26:41have

26:43in determining what those needs are?

26:45>> Yeah, so we typically the planning

26:47commission committee, as Marsha was

26:48mentioning, every 5 years HUD requires

26:51us as a county

26:52uh so the county and community in

26:54particular to do a consolidated plan

26:56that identifies the priorities for our

26:58needs for the next 5 years. So, when

27:00that comes up, that's an opportunity

27:02where we bring the mission committee. Um

27:04you're also in every funding

27:06recommendation, every rating you're

27:08you're providing us with, you're also

27:11helping us identify needs that you see

27:14in the community. For example, last

27:15year's mission committee uh was really

27:17interested in providing money for youth

27:19development programs, and so their

27:21rankings and funding recommendations

27:23kind of geared a little bit more towards

27:25that than that for past previous mission

27:27committee. So, those are just two quick

27:29examples of how you all as the body help

27:32us identify and fund those needs.

27:35So, also whenever we do strategic plans,

27:38like when we did the homelessness and

27:39housing plan

27:40last 3 years ago 2 or 3 years ago, the

27:43mission committee at that one was also a

27:45very full part of that feedback

27:48providing input.

27:49>> So, we've got a coffee plan?

27:52>> Absolutely. Yeah, we can provide it.

27:58>> Uh the Home Investment Partnerships

28:00Program, or HOME as we love to call it,

28:02is um

28:03another HUD community planning

28:06department's funding source, and it

28:09generally

28:11exclusively leads to the construction of

28:13a affordable housing units. So,

28:16usually CDBG can be done to support

28:18housing, but we just have to do the

28:21role. Um usually you cannot use CDBG to

28:23construct new units. You can do

28:25supportive instruction, things like

28:27that. And HOME was

28:29upright construction. We're building

28:30units for this. So, every HOME dollar

28:32has to result in a home unit to a

28:35affordable

28:36low-income family or children.

28:41So, home

28:42home allocations

28:43932,000 a year. This is what you can see

28:46what we did last year. I'm not going to

28:47go over the details. You can go back and

28:48do it. There's a 10% administration cap

28:51for um

28:53home, which is slightly different than

28:54CDBG, which allows 20%. Those are

28:56regulatory

28:57um federal guidelines.

29:02And I don't know much about the housing

29:04program. So, if you want to know

29:07housing program.

29:08>> I'll talk about it a little bit more

29:09later, but

29:10>> So,

29:11>> Yeah.

29:12>> Saying that some of this is

29:13>> So, starting in FY25 in the

29:16Athens-Clarke County budget, the mayor

29:17and commission decided to set aside

29:19$100,000 of general funds to do housing

29:22counseling and financial financial

29:25counseling. Um

29:28in the first year of the program, the

29:29Athens Land Trust and East Athens

29:31Development Corporation were selected to

29:34receive these funding. Um

29:37and that first year as it was kind of

29:39getting off the ground, they just

29:41extended the contract through FY26.

29:44So, our third our you know, second and

29:46competitive round was last year in FY27.

29:49The Athens Community Council on Aging

29:51and East Athens Development Corporation

29:53both received funding that year. And

29:56again, this year for FY28, we have

29:58$100,000

30:00um that will be on a competitive basis

30:03and and I'll talk about it in more

30:04detail later, but you all are part of

30:07those ratings.

30:12Oh, yeah. This is This is just a

30:13breakdown so you can kind of see how the

30:15funds um have been allocated over the

30:17past few years. So, like I was saying

30:20initially FY25

30:22um went to East Athens and the Land

30:24Trust. That got extended through with 40

30:27and 60,000 in FY26.

30:30And then,

30:32you can see you know, there's about

30:36>> 2/3 of the money about went to these

30:38efforts last year and the the remainder

30:40went to

30:41uh reading council each year.

30:46That's it.

30:48>> All right. So, the next funding

30:49opportunity we'll talk a little bit

30:50about is our community partnerships

30:52program. Uh so, this one again is the

30:55one that we all are aware of. Total

30:57ownership over in the storing and the

30:59ranking portion. So, just a little bit

31:01of history about the community

31:02partnership program. Um basically, it's

31:05kind of the idea started in 2023. It was

31:08proposed. Uh but the first funding year

31:10for CDBG was FY25. So,

31:14uh

31:15in support of the FY26 to 28 strategic

31:17plan, they can still apply for funding

31:19to support community service.

31:22Uh there's two categories of community

31:23services, which has three things under

31:25it. They were to provide revitalization,

31:26poverty reduction, and economic

31:28strength. And then, intervention and

31:29prevention or homeless services

31:31activity. So, we'll get into the weeds

31:33about this a little bit here later. Uh

31:35but FY25 funding was, you know, $871,000

31:39and some change. Uh and then, starting

31:42in FY26, it moved up to a million

31:44dollars. And so, that has been the

31:46recurring funding for last

31:48[clears throat] year, and that's what's

31:49available uh currently for FY28

31:52resources. And our application release

31:54for that was on October 28th.

31:58And this is just kind of most recent.

32:00So, for FY27, you can kind of see our

32:03various funding allocations here. Again,

32:05it was a million dollars. Uh

32:08and so, you can see a large portion of

32:10that went to intervention and

32:11prevention. Uh

32:13and some uh 14% poverty reduction and

32:15economic strength, and then homeless

32:17services. Um so, this is just kind of to

32:19give you a snapshot of, you know, the

32:21prioritization of funding that the

32:22divisional committee had last year.

32:28Okay.

32:29So, the consolidated plan, I know that

32:32um Michael was asking about this earlier

32:33as well. There's a lot of information in

32:36the consolidated plan. I know that Al

32:38Hunter briefly you just kind of covered

32:39what that looks like a second ago, so

32:41I'm not going to necessarily recap all

32:43that. I can send out a copy of this

32:45consolidated plan as well as the link to

32:48or the copy of the FY26 through the

32:51community strategic plan for you all

32:52that way you just have a kind of all the

32:54money on it easily as you're going

32:56through the process.

33:00Uh but our consolidated plan goals for

33:02FY26 through 30 are affordable housing

33:04and redevelopment, public services,

33:07economic development, and public

33:08facilities improvements.

33:13And the And so there's several slides

33:15just kind of getting into the weeds of

33:16what each of those things look like. And

33:18so for the affordable housing

33:19development, you know, the goal there is

33:21to foster foster an affordable housing

33:23market that meets the needs of average

33:25Stark County residents through the

33:26creation and preservation of a variety

33:28of housing and those

33:32And then so affordable housing goal

33:35strategies, uh again, this is a lot of

33:37information. There's a lot of things

33:39kind of tied to different funding

33:40sources and things of that nature. So,

33:43um I won't necessarily read through all

33:45of these strategies for you, but you

33:47will receive a copy of these slides and

33:48you'll be able to have this just to kind

33:49of get a better sense of what what we're

33:51doing.

33:52>> I'm going to interrupt here. There are

33:54This will go through examples of each of

33:56the goals, but that's part of the reason

33:59why for CDBG in particular, um vision

34:02committee does a portion of the funding

34:04and has staff doing a lot of There's a

34:05lot of new laws and regulatory

34:07requirements to meet eligibility

34:08criteria that you cannot be expected to

34:11know in this short time. So, that's why

34:13you're only funding a portion of our

34:15Excuse me, scoring a portion of the

34:18application, which we'll break down that

34:19for you in the slides later on. So, you

34:21can always rely on us to ask us

34:22questions if you have You're going to

34:23have access to all of these things and

34:25to the whole application. Um so, if you

34:28have questions, please reach out, but

34:30don't feel like you have to become an

34:31expert on all of these goals and that's

34:33all of the activities cuz they're a lot

34:35of

34:36>> Thank you.

34:37>> Okay. For that clarification.

34:39>> video wall don't want to leave you all

34:40just leave here feeling like you have

34:42to, you know, do a dissertation on CDBG

34:44funding in the county like so.

34:47Um

34:48All right. So, just so you can see here

34:50FY27 CDBG and HOME affordable housing

34:53programs. Um so, you can kind of see

34:55what the awarded activity is. So, we'll

34:57give some of our community partners that

34:58receive that those funding sources at

35:01Athens Habitat for Humanity,

35:03uh the Housing Authority, Athens Land

35:05Trust, Historic Athens.

35:07Um and so, you can see some emergency

35:09services We have a lot of agencies in

35:11the community that receive multiple

35:13funding sources from us either for the

35:15same project possibly if it's larger you

35:17can kind of stack those um those levels

35:20of support, but then also you know, for

35:23individual projects as well. So.

35:26>> Yeah. And I do want to clarify those

35:28awards that you see there for Habitat

35:30and um the Housing Authority, those

35:32awards were actually in FY26, but

35:35because of the nature of the contracting

35:36and the projects, they're actually being

35:39activated within well those contracts

35:41within this fiscal year. So, it's a

35:42little bit of confusing in that sense.

35:46>> And again, HOME is one of those that

35:48you're not necessarily going to be able

35:50to be able to do anything with, but in

35:51the interest of just sharing what HCD

35:53does and the scope and the the breadth

35:55of the funding sources, we just wanted

35:56you to kind of see

35:58that. Can I say something real quick and

36:00then

36:00>> Absolutely. So, one thing that you

36:01probably will see in the CDBG

36:03applications is

36:05supporting home projects. So, one of the

36:07ways you see CDBG used to support those

36:10funded home projects and so, there's

36:11everything from Housing Authority and

36:13the Land Trust, Habitat. You will likely

36:16see certain activities that are about

36:19supporting those projects. So, it's just

36:21a matter of instance and general

36:22information.

36:26>> If y'all agree with this, it's great

36:28that So, jump in if you've got it, but

36:30this is it's welcome.

36:32Uh so, we've got goal two, public

36:34services. And so, that's really just to

36:35enhance the quality of life through

36:37programs and services that meet the

36:39needs of residents of Clark County. So,

36:41the next couple slides we'll go through

36:42some you know, what the goal areas of

36:44that are and then previously funded

36:46projects.

36:49So again, this is some public goal

36:51services and strategies, but that's you

36:53know, homelessness for individuals and

36:55families,

36:56youth development and violence

36:58prevention, and then serving low and

37:00moderate income households as well.

37:07>> 50 eligible public services and regional

37:10There's a lot of things under CDBG that

37:12are eligible in our consolidated

37:14planning process. Um

37:16the these were the top three strategies

37:18that were identified. So these are the

37:20five already made means of how public

37:22services are centered. So homelessness

37:24being the first, then youth development

37:26and violence prevention, and then the

37:28last is

37:30eligible activities that support any of

37:32the other goals. And anything that's

37:33related to affordable housing or

37:35economic development or something that

37:37is going to fall inside of the public

37:38facility improvement. Those are also

37:40eligible. Um there might be some other

37:43activities

37:44under CDBG that are eligible but they

37:45might not necessarily be our our

37:47consolidated planning goals. And that's

37:49why this might be a good example. And

37:51that's why this might be a good

37:53example.

37:56>> Any questions?

37:57>> Mhm.

38:00>> Do you want to talk about this for a

38:02second, I think?

38:03>> So this is about the

38:05nuance of the public

38:07public service activity applications. We

38:10just got

38:11430,000

38:13so

38:14five awards. Um

38:16which resulted in if everybody got

38:1730,000, we could only fund

38:19[clears throat] six awarded projects.

38:21Keep that in mind. That's something

38:22they're they're eligible or allowed to

38:25ask for more than that.

38:27Um this is the only portion of CDBG

38:29where we require the agencies to

38:31provide a 25% cash match. Um

38:35that's going to make sure they have some

38:37skin in the game and that they're aware

38:39of the kind of

38:40requirements and what's expected here.

38:42So other projects may not require that.

38:45They might provide documentation

38:47leverage, but our public service

38:49activities can be required 25% of the

38:51CDBG award to be a match.

38:55>> So, could you give me an example of

38:57something where

38:58of a

38:59program that you are acting like they

39:01are getting grants?

39:05This is one of the public services.

39:06>> They could. Yes.

39:08Yeah, so I don't know if there's a list

39:10of who who is for. So, this year we have

39:12>> Excellent.

39:14opportunity

39:14>> Yeah, so these are our

39:16service partners this year. Um the

39:19ornamental structures and counseling,

39:22family promise center, emergency

39:23shelter, and child care costs, Joyce

39:26Conflict Conflict Center gets

39:29uh restorative justice diversion program

39:30for youth, various masses are daily um

39:34operations. They get some money for that

39:36and they do some ID and work with credit

39:38and that kind of thing.

39:40And then most of this is in our program.

39:42So, that's how the list

39:43>> Yeah.

39:45Thank you.

39:46We had a couple of questions here.

39:47>> Yeah, I mean when I look at those dollar

39:49amounts,

39:51what can you do for $30,000?

39:54It's It starts to cross to me more like

39:56we're funding these agencies to fund

39:58these agencies

40:00because the dollar amounts are so small

40:02I don't know how it can result in

40:03anything of substance value

40:06in terms of services being delivered.

40:09>> Yeah, but it's one of the reasons why we

40:10require the match in this particular

40:12case for CDBG to show. A lot of

40:15nonprofits are spending it all together

40:17and a lot of funding sources but it's

40:18funding split. I mean, we can

40:20only give out so much. In our case for

40:22example, um you'll notice the majority

40:24of these

40:25Some of these agencies last year also

40:27applied for CDBG funds. And so, it's

40:30just a bunch of little awards um usually

40:33for the same program but

40:36kind of cobble together. Um they're

40:37running on fumes. But that's pretty

40:39typical of the nonprofit operating world

40:41not just here in Athens but across

40:43the country, probably worldwide. I'm

40:45going to I'm going to venture is

40:47But you're right, it's never the needs

40:50are so great in all our communities that

40:52there's just never quite enough funding.

40:55So, they just do what they can and

40:57it's a little drop in the bucket, so to

40:59speak.

41:00>> And you know, that's one of the things

41:01you'll be able to see when you're

41:02reviewing and, you know, looking at the

41:04applications is the budgets that are

41:06provided that will show you, other

41:08categories, funding sources and it may

41:10be for the same program that they get

41:12additional funding that's supposed to go

41:14to them, which is sub-awarded through

41:15the alcohol office and

41:20All right, so for goal three for the con

41:22plan, that's going to be economic

41:23development and workforce development.

41:25And so, the goal there is to promote

41:27upward economic mobility of low and

41:29moderate income Athens-Clarke County

41:30residents through small business

41:32entrepreneurship and work workforce

41:34development.

41:38Did you have anything you want to say

41:38about those activities?

41:39>> No, currently we're funding

41:42micro-enterprise

41:44activities through Goodwill and

41:48What has my brain

41:49left out? Sorry, we're on the

41:50next slide. So, micro-enterprise is one

41:53thing that is eligible under economic

41:55development. There are also activities

41:57that are eligible under there where

41:59they're actually job creation that has a

42:01lot more of a workforce side to it, so

42:02we have not had any applicants apply for

42:04that yet

42:06um since my in my tenure here in the

42:08last four years. So, we'll be interested

42:10to see what comes in this application

42:12cycle,

42:13but

42:14as you can see,

42:15Athens Development Corporation is a

42:18community They have a special

42:20designation as a community-based

42:22development organization, meaning that

42:24they serve

42:25primarily in Inner West Athens, which is

42:26a neighborhood revitalization strategy

42:28area, which is the designation they

42:30have.

42:31Um so, because of that, they are able to

42:33access

42:34um

42:35funding outside the public service cap

42:37that would otherwise be considered a

42:39public service because they have that

42:40special designation. So, their three

42:43activities there are job coaching,

42:44medical services training, and economic

42:46development, which is kind of like

42:48actual tutoring and what I can

42:49understand from the review. Those who

42:51would normally be considered for public

42:53services, but because uh East Athens

42:55Economic Development Corporation is a

42:57CBDO and um they've had a special uh

43:01board of

43:02their board of directors has special um

43:06criteria. They have to be somebody who

43:07has to be low income, somebody has to

43:08have businesses in the

43:10community. They've met all those

43:12criteria, so they are um able to access

43:14this funding, which would normally not

43:16be available or would [clears throat] be

43:18normally not be able to get that. So,

43:20all of the CDBG

43:21or CDBG money can go.

43:26>> Okay. So, goal four is going to be

43:27public facilities and improvements. So,

43:29the goal there is to foster uh public

43:31infrastructure improvements that improve

43:33the lives of low and moderate income

43:34residents in Athens-Clarke County. Uh

43:36so, for these, this is a category where

43:38we haven't received any applications,

43:40correct, for the past couple of years?

43:42>> of years, yeah. We did uh two park

43:44improvements um

43:46uh well, we did a park improvement

43:48probably a couple years ago at Lay Park,

43:50and then um we did get an application

43:53from the Athens Housing Authority for

43:54roof repair, uh which that's eligible.

43:56So, it doesn't necessarily have to be uh

43:59facilities that are owned or operated by

44:00Athens-Clarke County. Nonprofits can own

44:02facilities, but once they do that, they

44:04have to maintain that use

44:07in that way forever, it's in plain. And

44:09then if they ever try to change the use,

44:11that's come back for the public or they

44:12have to give it back. So, um things like

44:15uh community centers, side uh um

44:18homeless shelters, group homes for

44:20senior and disabled adults, things like

44:22that are also eligible activities.

44:25But, the funding usually is so limited.

44:27You can't really do a lot, all right,

44:29because that's CDBG money going out.

44:31There's so many resources

44:34to get a bigger facility

44:36or something.

44:42>> All right.

44:42>> So, now we're going to roll into this

44:44year's Vision Committee roles and

44:46responsibilities, which I know we've

44:47been kind of touching on here. Uh I

44:50won't harp on this too much because I

44:51know we've talked about it somewhat

44:53already, but uh basically kind of moving

44:55forward what we'll need to do is select

44:57new vision committee officers. So, we'll

44:58need to select a chair and a secretary,

45:01complete required BAC training which you

45:04have already done. You all have done.

45:06Review the updated BAC manual. And then

45:09once, hopefully by the time our, as you

45:11can see, February 17th is our next

45:13meeting. Hopefully by the time that

45:15rolls around and the ordinance and

45:17everything will have been approved. If

45:18that's the case, we'll have additional

45:20information for you to review and inform

45:23you of what we need to do there.

45:25But that February 17th, again, I'll

45:27probably say it 10 more times, that like

45:29that is the meeting that we're going to

45:31have this year to talk about all the

45:33ratings and rankings and generally it's

45:35scheduled from 9:00 to 12:00. It will

45:37likely go over from 9:00 to 12:00. It's

45:39a long one, but it's very good

45:41discussion and everyone should want to

45:42give a lot of feedback and thoughts. And

45:44so, we don't want to rush that process

45:46because as you can see, it's an

45:47important

45:49such a big department of what ABC block

45:51grant theory

45:55So, for our FY28 CDBG funding, I'll kick

45:59it over to Mars and she's going to talk

46:01through some different things.

46:06So, the 1.2 million is an estimate.

46:09Obviously, we won't get the award until

46:11probably March or April of next year.

46:14But generally speaking, it's been on the

46:16way and on trend to stay about the same.

46:18It may have gone down a little bit, but

46:20we rarely see

46:22up ticks

46:23in this.

46:25We really

46:26usually get about 30 or more

46:29applications in. So,

46:31this is the big a big undertaking for

46:35you all cuz there's a lot of

46:36applications in the pipeline here.

46:38We do a staff go through and and once

46:41the applications are submitted, we do go

46:42through and if anything isn't eligible,

46:45we inform the applicant immediately.

46:47This activity is not eligible under CDBG

46:49and you won't have to look at those or

46:50waste your time.

46:52Um

46:53Um let's see. We get the

46:56most applications are usually for public

46:59service activities

47:01because that's just the nature of that.

47:03As you know, we have a lot of non-profit

47:04partners that want to help the community

47:06and so we get a lot of applications

47:07then.

47:08Sometimes they ask for more money than

47:10is even allowed. Like, you know, we'll

47:12get a $150,000 request and only have an

47:14$80,000 cap. So, it's it's finding that

47:17balance between the priorities of the

47:19agency, what what the best use of the

47:21money is and that's part of what you

47:22will be helping decide.

47:24The grant year for CDBG funding runs

47:28from July through

47:36And

47:37so it's one year. So, the funding that

47:39the funding that you are deciding on now

47:41will be actually available when it

47:42applies to on next July.

47:45And let's see.

47:46For us

47:48This is incorrect. It's not 100.

47:52It's It's okay. It's 110. So, there's

47:54150 possible points. There's a breakdown

47:56from this slide later on that I'll show

47:57you. For the CDBG funding scoring,

48:00there's 150 points possible.

48:03So, the citizen committee is responsible

48:05for 40 of those points. And it goes to

48:08community impact review and priority

48:11funding how you think it needs to be

48:12done. So, you will be working that way

48:14and that helps the application process.

48:16And let's see.

48:19You'll be getting access to these in the

48:21June Excuse me.

48:23In December on December 14th. So, by

48:25then you will have all the resources

48:27that you need to be able to review these

48:29appropriately.

48:32So, it's

48:33You can take a picture of this.

48:35>> Yeah, and you'll see you'll have about 6

48:38weeks right between December 14th and

48:40January 29th. That's going to be your

48:44review period. We know the holidays fall

48:46right over it. These are a lot of

48:48applications. It's not just CDBG, it's

48:51also CPN and Down's Lake. So, I think

48:53our budget committee found that it's

48:54good enough to review and please don't

48:57wait till the last minute. It's a lot

48:58cuz you will not be done. So, as soon as

49:00those of these go out on the 14th for

49:02you, start working on them.

49:05We'll get more into the nitty-gritty of

49:06it, but

49:08it's a lot. Don't think it's a lot of

49:09time. It looks like a lot of time, but

49:11it's not. And then we come back together

49:13on the 17th to then discuss your scores.

49:21>> Okay, here's Here's the the slide that's

49:22coming later. I mean, so the HTP staff

49:26will review these uh components of the

49:28application. You'll be able to see all

49:30the responses in these attachments. So,

49:31it's not like you're only going to see

49:32the responses that apply to your

49:35scoring. You can see you're going to be

49:36able to review the entire application.

49:38Um so, you get a feel for what they're

49:39actually asking for. And then um the

49:41visiting committee will There's a

49:43specific section within the grants that

49:45talks about community impact and

49:47relationships with your other partners,

49:48and

49:50that's where you're going to have that

49:51um

49:52input that's needed to see what the

49:55vision worksheet and what the community

49:56really is looking for. And then you'll

49:58be able to assign points as for priority

50:01there. And it says that there's a

50:04priority guide as a reference. You'll be

50:06getting that um

50:07when the information for the mini grants

50:09comes out to help you guys with the um

50:11scoring there.

50:12>> That's all at the bottom. That's an

50:14oversight on my part, so apologies. It

50:15should be total FY2018 CDPG application

50:18points, not 6. I'll fix that before I

50:19send it out to you all.

50:21>> And what is the total? Oh, right here.

50:23>> Hi. Pathway to Literacy.

50:25Sorry, I was in line. One thing to to

50:27note, please make sure last year we did

50:30have some visiting committee members

50:32that accidentally completed the staff

50:34portion of the committee review.

50:36Um so, we had to go over and review uh

50:38some accounting for action. Please make

50:40sure that for CDPGs specifically and for

50:43having nothing that you fully reviewed

50:46the two criteria that you're responsible

50:48for. Don't do more work

50:51than you have to do. Like, we'll we'll

50:53indicate that for you when you're doing

50:55this. Yes, ma'am.

50:56>> Why does the committee only

50:59get to look at uh points worth of uh

51:03the value of these proposals.

51:05>> Because that's the way I think it's

51:06because the CDBG

51:09applications are usually so technical as

51:12far as regulatory requirements and past

51:14performance. You'll be able to see that,

51:16but we didn't It's not

51:19fair to put that kind of

51:21um responsibility on the vision

51:23committees. The vision committee is

51:24designed to help inform community desire

51:27and impact and and establish priorities

51:29that are going to be recommended to the

51:32um mayor and commission. So, that's how

51:33those That's

51:34>> So, this is not a statutory requirement.

51:37This is a

51:37>> No, federal government only presents

51:40that we get community input

51:43for community input portions of the

51:47application. Under no circumstances are

51:50we required to have community input on

51:54those under the uh 100,000 or more.

51:57We actually go above and beyond having a

52:00vision committee that is you that gets

52:0340-point input

52:05for the actual community portion that

52:08gives preference to the requirement.

52:11>> And I believe you had to had to step out

52:12for a second earlier, and there was a

52:13few slides about the uh conference

52:16center that we got into some of like all

52:18the really technical nuance. And so,

52:20once you get once you're able to see

52:21those slides, it's it's very like

52:23there's so much technical nuance to the

52:25stadium information and scoring criteria

52:27that if you go to it that, you know,

52:29just to kind of give you some

52:30>> And you don't you you you don't have the

52:32information that is required to be able

52:34to account for those criteria that the

52:36staff already

52:39We have the

52:40experience, the training, and the

52:42knowledge. We also have the background

52:44and the history of dealing with agencies

52:46on the performance level annually that

52:49you don't have. And then we would not be

52:51able to provide you

52:52in this environment that you need to

52:54write write this.

52:54>> And this has been a topic of discussion

52:56with the mayor and commission. So, this

52:58is how this has been discussed with you

53:00here. So, it's not a new way of writing.

53:03>> And I'll say like a 40 out of 150 may

53:06not seem like much, but we've seen

53:08applications like even that, you know,

53:10staff feel pretty strongly about. We've

53:12seen those scores drop significantly in

53:14some cases because of what the vision

53:16committee feels.

53:18You know, 40 points, so it it does play

53:21a big role in it, even if it only looks

53:23like it's 40 points.

53:25I mean, that's where it's And that makes

53:27a substantial difference.

53:29>> Mhm.

53:31>> All right.

53:32I think that's it for CDBG.

53:34>> Okay.

53:36>> Please welcome and talk a little more

53:37about housing and community development.

53:39So, like I mentioned before, there's

53:41$100,000 that have been made available

53:43for housing counseling activities. And

53:46so,

53:47really what this involves is having an

53:50agency who has a housing counselor who

53:53has passed the HUD housing counseling

53:55certification exam or will pass it by

53:58the time FY '28 starts. Um

54:02and these housing counselors will work

54:05one-on-one or in groups of, you know,

54:08low-income Lackawanna County residents

54:10to provide homeownership education,

54:13foreclosure prevention, financial

54:15literacy, credit repair, education

54:17around affordable housing,

54:19sustainability. So, really just working

54:21with people so that they have the

54:23information and knowledge and and know

54:25about the services that will um

54:28hopefully help them to be in a better

54:29position with their housing planning

54:31more safe and secure and stable housing.

54:35Um similarly, so the schedule is the

54:38same. You'll be rating these alongside

54:40the other applications. And similarly to

54:43the CDBG, you only have a portion of

54:48the score that you'll be responsible

54:50for. So, you'll see the whole

54:53um

54:53application.

54:56And you'll be able to read through it. I

54:59would suggest reading it it through to

55:01just have a good sense of what the

55:02specific program is. But in terms of

55:05your rating, you will just rate the

55:07community impact assessment for 10

55:10points.

55:11Um

55:12and so, you know, 10% of this score will

55:15be based on how you see this program

55:18having a broader impact on the

55:21community.

55:26That's it.

55:27So, now we've gotten to our final

55:29community partnerships program, the one

55:31that you have 100% control over deciding

55:34what you want to rate, score,

55:36prioritize. And so,

55:38um

55:39again, you can see this timeline over

55:41here, that is going to be the same for

55:42all of them, which is nice, keeps it

55:44easy for you. You just have a few

55:45separate dates to remember, and they'll

55:47be the same for each one. And in years

55:49past, they've been a little different

55:50sometimes, and so, this makes it easy

55:52for you.

55:53Um

55:53and so, there's, you know, a million

55:55dollars available for local community

55:58you know, funds for the community

55:59partnerships program. Um and again,

56:01those categories are community service,

56:03which includes neighborhood

56:05revitalization, poverty reduction, and

56:07economic strength, and intervention and

56:09prevention activities, and then also

56:11homeless continuum of care service

56:13activities. So, homeless continuum of

56:15care service activities is going to be

56:16case management, things of that sort, uh

56:18or individuals experiencing

56:20homelessness, families experiencing

56:21homelessness. Some requirements for the

56:23agencies there would be, you know, they

56:25participate in annual point-in-time

56:26count, they're a member of our, you

56:29know, homeless coalition in the

56:30community, and are involved in the

56:32connected group of services that are

56:34also delivering assistance.

56:36Um

56:37our FY28 grant year is also same dates,

56:41going to run from July 1st, 2027 through

56:43June 30th, 2028.

56:45Uh applications for this program were

56:47released at the same time, and the

56:49applications will be due on the 20th,

56:51and then you are responsible for scoring

56:54uh up to 100 points

56:56uh of these applications. Again, we

56:58review them for eligibility, and then

57:01you all will rate and score them. So,

57:03we're not going to waste your time

57:04sending you any that you have to kind of

57:06look through for eligibility purposes,

57:08or spend time on that. Anything that

57:10comes across your desk, so to speak,

57:11will be an eligible application for

57:13review.

57:16And these are going to be your rating

57:18criteria as well. You get a more kind of

57:20specific scoring matrix, but rating

57:23criteria is financial ability is going

57:26to be 30 points. So, that's considering

57:28things like cost per program

57:30participant, diverse funding sources,

57:32use of the budget,

57:34things like that.

57:35Community involvement and collaboration

57:37is going to be 15 points. And so, this

57:39is documented community collaborations

57:41and our community impact assessment. So,

57:44one thing to kind of keep in mind for

57:45the year returning,

57:48in years past, the community impact

57:50assessment has been an attachment where

57:53you've, you know, agencies have

57:54completed that and then you've reviewed

57:56that in addition. This year, to

57:57hopefully make everyone a fly a little

58:00more simple with agencies doing

58:01applications and you all doing reviews

58:03in the process, that's actually been

58:05baked into the application here. So,

58:06it's still very clear and obvious what

58:08questions are related to community

58:10impact, but we basically took some of

58:12those previous community impact

58:14questions, some of our other application

58:16questions, and kind of rolled it all up

58:18into one section

58:19to make that easier for you.

58:21So, and then outcomes and performance,

58:23that's going to be 45 points. And so,

58:25that's, you know, looking at things in

58:27that modeling section, benefit of the

58:30program, abilities to strategic, excuse

58:32me, to achieve strategic plan goals. So,

58:35that's obviously a really big section.

58:37And then organization and staff ability

58:40is 10 points. And so, that's operations

58:42capacity, program experience, things of

58:44that sort.

58:50Okay.

58:52Here's the what's next. Any, before we

58:54jump into this, this kind of calendar of

58:56dates, I think this is our, hopefully,

58:58next to last slide. Are there any

58:59questions about scoring, ranking, things

59:02of that sort before we

59:04move forward into kind of the next

59:05portion of the meeting?

59:08You might ask yourself, Marcy Hayes, do

59:10you have any questions?

59:13Perfect.

59:14>> Did we mention the

59:15>> something about everything you do is on

59:17the record?

59:18>> Yes.

59:18>> So, if you don't want it to be on the

59:20record, make sure we get that. So,

59:22be nice in your comments.

59:24>> We got

59:25And again, like I said earlier, any

59:26comments you leave are still

59:28confidential to your name, so you won't

59:30be tied. If I tell an agency, "So-and-so

59:33had to say this about your application."

59:34your name won't be mentioned, but still

59:35your statement. Try to keep it to

59:37helpful feedback, as we're going to say.

59:39>> Unless it's requested as an open record.

59:42So, if you have a 21 certain district

59:43request for feedback, the one that they

59:45would probably extend this.

59:46>> Yes.

59:47>> If that's an open records request, we

59:48have to read it.

59:49>> Sorry. Yes, thank you for the

59:50clarification.

59:53All right. So, the ongoing, obviously,

59:55like I said earlier, you're going to be

59:56wanting to check your email at ACCG.net.

59:58Keep an eye on that. If you want to set

1:00:00it up to get forwarded to your personal

1:00:01email, however you need to do it to make

1:00:03sure that you don't miss anything, just

1:00:05please keep an eye on that. Keep all

1:00:06communications with our department

1:00:09through that email address. And so,

1:00:11we're going to be sending you stuff out,

1:00:13so be on the lookout for the beginning

1:00:15of that Zoom Grants training video, any

1:00:17updates on BAC ordinances.

1:00:19I'll probably send out some follow-up

1:00:21materials for today, like these slides,

1:00:23consolidated plans, strategic plan, all

1:00:25that stuff for you for review.

1:00:28December 14th, as we've touched on a

1:00:30couple of times, is going to be when

1:00:32applications are going to you for

1:00:34review. January 29th, so that

1:00:36application that application review

1:00:38period is done. All things have to

1:00:40begin. Again, please don't wait until

1:00:42the last minute. I'll say this year

1:00:45is the most applications we've ever got

1:00:46or sorry, we've got we require folks to

1:00:49do what's called a notice of intent,

1:00:50which is required. It's essentially

1:00:51you're putting in something saying that

1:00:52you want to do an application.

1:00:55And this is the most that we've ever

1:00:56gotten. So, if everyone applies,

1:00:58you're going to be busy. So, get started

1:01:00on this as soon as possible.

1:01:02And then that February 17th meeting

1:01:04where we review and score these

1:01:05applications is going to be from 9:00 to

1:01:0712:00. That'll also be

1:01:09here at the courthouse building. Might

1:01:11be in the first floor conference room.

1:01:13Might also be up here. Just kind of

1:01:15once it is available.

1:01:16Uh and then just so you can see looking

1:01:18forward once those recommendations are

1:01:19made, uh the Mayor and Commission work

1:01:21session to present those, which HPD

1:01:23staff takes care of on your behalf, but

1:01:26that's going to be on April 13th. April

1:01:2920th is the Mayor and Commission agenda

1:01:31setting session, and then May 4th is the

1:01:33voting session where you will then,

1:01:34you know, vote yes or no on the

1:01:36recommendations that we've been putting

1:01:38together in the staff work. So, uh

1:01:41once that happens, then we start to talk

1:01:43about the consolidation season to kind

1:01:44of get the ball rolling on doing the

1:01:45actual work that you've been

1:01:48working on making for the school. So,

1:01:50any questions about what's upcoming?

1:01:54Perfect.

1:01:55Well, thank you all. Uh as I mentioned

1:01:57earlier, but myself and Alejandra, our

1:02:00assistant director, are your HPD staff

1:02:02liaisons. So, that's our contact

1:02:04information. If you do need anything,

1:02:06please don't hesitate to give us a call

1:02:07or send an email. We'd love to hear from

1:02:09y'all. We'd love to chat with you.

1:02:11Um

1:02:12and so that concludes the presentation

1:02:13portion.

1:02:14And I know we jumped around a little bit

1:02:16with some things that we've already

1:02:18discussed, item D, and then all the

1:02:20other items under C. So, which that

1:02:22brings us to D, selection of officers.

1:02:25So, want to welcome Allison Hollis, who

1:02:28is our a returning committee member and

1:02:30also our vice chair. So, you're good,

1:02:33and then I'll hand it over to you for

1:02:34the discussion about selecting our new

1:02:36secretary and chair.

1:02:38And rest of that part.

1:02:41>> Good morning. I'm Allison Hollis.

1:02:42Uh I

1:02:44apologize for being late.

1:02:46Because I did not forward my email, uh

1:02:49it's in my personal, I missed all of

1:02:52that and got forwarded to my personal

1:02:53email. So, just

1:02:55as a friendly reminder, if you need to

1:02:57contact both of us, check that email

1:02:58frequently or it's not forwarded. Um

1:03:01I am currently the vice chair of this.

1:03:03Uh I am happy to allow people to take

1:03:06that mantle if they would like to for

1:03:09the next year. Uh so, we have chair,

1:03:12vice chair, and secretary for the three

1:03:14roles of this committee.

1:03:17Um this committee, I think maybe this

1:03:19was discussed, came to be an official

1:03:21PAC last year.

1:03:23So, now we have to have official people

1:03:26in charge of this

1:03:27and that is serving us.

1:03:29The chair is in charge of making sure we

1:03:32run meetings without well being seen

1:03:35on the matters of the school's

1:03:37order for meetings. Vice chair, as you

1:03:40can see right now, is essentially a

1:03:42backup for said chair and just making

1:03:44sure that the students are being

1:03:46facilitated and then the secretary who

1:03:48will be in charge of taking meeting

1:03:49notes. Because we have our meetings so

1:03:51often,

1:03:52those meeting notes if we can are

1:03:55usually reviewed at the end as we will

1:03:57do today just for the sake of

1:03:59efficiency. We know we're all

1:04:01volunteers. We want to make sure that

1:04:02everybody has the time

1:04:05to do all of this work and not end up

1:04:07being overburdened with extra asks. So,

1:04:10all of that to say, do any of you have

1:04:13any questions about PAC's roles with our

1:04:16PAC?

1:04:20Uh

1:04:22You have How many of us are here? Three?

1:04:24Four?

1:04:25Yeah, that's

1:04:26eight.

1:04:28I lost count. You got three of us here.

1:04:30Okay. That's fine. Are there other

1:04:32people here?

1:04:33Uh

1:04:38She said

1:04:42That's all.

1:04:43Uh

1:04:45Is anybody willing to step in the role

1:04:48of chair?

1:04:50It would be asked of you that you for

1:04:52all of this year be at all of our

1:04:54meetings which is not a lot in the grand

1:04:56scheme of things

1:04:57and that you make sure that they run

1:05:01That's it and only for the year

1:05:03committee. We're not asking you to

1:05:04commit to the next

1:05:06cycle of this committee.

1:05:17>> You know, someone will come up with

1:05:18something.

1:05:18>> Oh,

1:05:20sir, I apologize. I do not know your

1:05:21name.

1:05:22What is your name?

1:05:23>> Michael McClean.

1:05:28>> Okay.

1:05:28>> And I'll be looking for somebody that I

1:05:30can challenge for this office.

1:05:34>> Mr. McClean has offered himself as a

1:05:36potential chair. Is there anybody else

1:05:38who wants to throw their name in the

1:05:39hat?

1:05:40>> Yes, I would like to.

1:05:41>> Can you just give a little bit more

1:05:43insight as to like what more

1:05:45specifically I guess?

1:05:46>> Yeah.

1:05:47>> Like I mean like like what you

1:05:48>> Sure.

1:05:50Uh so, if I was seeing as she had uh our

1:05:53chair,

1:05:54um

1:05:55I believe this will all work

1:05:58see what we're going to do with this

1:05:59long hair.

1:06:01What you see during this is exactly what

1:06:02I'm doing.

1:06:04Call to order a meeting. Call to order.

1:06:06Uh ask for votes on a meeting minutes.

1:06:09Um

1:06:10and ask for votes on decisions. So, when

1:06:13we are in specifically when it comes to

1:06:16CPT, um the city meeting funding we were

1:06:19effectively offered some insights those

1:06:22those opportunities lead up where we

1:06:24need to vote on which else we can just

1:06:25have a discussion. Um the city media is

1:06:28our role to do that and I believe the

1:06:31chair is in charge of

1:06:32can we get votes on moving this forward?

1:06:35Um so, it's just being the overseer of

1:06:38all of it and make sure that one, we're

1:06:40moving it along and two, that when

1:06:42people are ready to make votes on um

1:06:45decisions of the ranking of those

1:06:47dollars that are being rolled out, that

1:06:49they are the ones who's um

1:06:51physically taking that.

1:06:53>> All right, so you

1:06:53>> Does that make sense?

1:06:54>> Yes, you're it's like a meeting.

1:06:56>> Yes. And if we need I will say we need

1:06:58to lean very heavily on Corey and

1:07:00Alejandra and everybody else in the TV

1:07:02project team. So, if there's ever

1:07:04anything video or hey, no idea what I'm

1:07:06doing, you can ask them.

1:07:08>> Okay.

1:07:09>> I'm from Poland.

1:07:10>> That's a great story.

1:07:12>> You want to

1:07:12>> You can ask to nominate him for vice

1:07:14chair.

1:07:15>> I'd like to nominate him for vice

1:07:17chair.

1:07:17>> What is your name again, sir?

1:07:18>> Roman.

1:07:20>> What's your last name?

1:07:20>> Pomcyk. P O M C Y K.

1:07:25>> Okay.

1:07:26>> thank you.

1:07:27Okay, so we have two people up for

1:07:28running potential officers. Does anybody

1:07:30else want to throw their name in the hat

1:07:32for chair, vice chair, or

1:07:34secretary? It's the note-taker.

1:07:37Um I am comfortable if the group can

1:07:39decide and enjoy by reporting and then

1:07:43have it translate notes. You can take

1:07:45notes. The notes don't have to be super

1:07:47extensive, but specifically for our

1:07:50meeting with

1:07:52um in the future for meetings if you do

1:07:54have to record what our decisions are.

1:07:57Um I've had a couple of conversations

1:07:58with

1:07:59them. So, if you're willing to be

1:08:01said note-taker,

1:08:03um

1:08:05is that

1:08:18>> Excuse me, what

1:08:19>> the strategic

1:08:20>> Do you want to be

1:08:23chair or

1:08:24Do you want to

1:08:25Yeah.

1:08:27We got to take a note.

1:08:28So, what are the house

1:08:33the most here?

1:08:35They have at least two

1:08:36chair purposes.

1:08:41So,

1:08:43I mean

1:08:44kind of shut

1:08:50I'm holding that for the specific roles

1:08:52for the note-taker.

1:08:54Um

1:08:55I think chair is

1:08:57I think it's nice. Okay, maybe chair.

1:09:00Okay. Who did the last time? Uh no, I

1:09:03was the chair. I was the vice chair. I

1:09:05think the secretary

1:09:06Thank you, Sally. Thank you. I'm going

1:09:08to pick you, Lauren.

1:09:11I'm up.

1:09:12>> Is there a

1:09:14big spot for somebody to be the chair?

1:09:17I think

1:09:18I think I've asked for it before.

1:09:21Just

1:09:22I think somebody finding it is wise.

1:09:25Mhm. Has it been a situation where you

1:09:28know, somebody's had to leave the

1:09:31the maybe or the division committee and

1:09:33had been able to fulfill their

1:09:36responsibilities?

1:09:37>> As a As a

1:09:38>> As a member of the division

1:09:39>> As a member or as a

1:09:41>> As a officer.

1:09:42>> Officer. As of yet, no. Mostly as people

1:09:45only get officers when they

1:09:49We were

1:09:50not officially and like we we never

1:09:54uh but because we didn't have somebody

1:09:56to be it was a little bit of a different

1:09:57role. Uh so things are a little last

1:09:59year to be and that happened.

1:10:00>> I mean I'm I'm willing to serve but I

1:10:02found out that I was not a member of the

1:10:04board because I

1:10:05like actually that was kind of a

1:10:06problem.

1:10:08>> Sure.

1:10:10>> Being

1:10:11officer or a member of the board is one

1:10:12I understand now.

1:10:14>> Sure.

1:10:16>> And Alice, you gave great summaries but

1:10:17if it's helpful in any way I can read

1:10:19Article 3 from our bylaws that has the

1:10:22descriptions for the It's very quickly

1:10:23just for all of you.

1:10:25Uh the chair will be the chief

1:10:26administrative officer of the division

1:10:28committee, preside or you know, is

1:10:30responsible for general supervision of

1:10:32the policies and activities of the

1:10:33division committee, preside over all

1:10:35division committee meetings, and conduct

1:10:37all meetings in accordance to Robert's

1:10:38Rules of Order, uh

1:10:40and have authority to determine the need

1:10:42to call for roll call vote when a voice

1:10:44vote is not inclusive. So that you don't

1:10:46have to you know

1:10:47Alice described kind of the

1:10:49running meeting and make sure everything

1:10:50is done neatly. The vice chair should

1:10:52perform such duties that are generally

1:10:54performed by the vice chair and in the

1:10:56event of vacancy of the chair or their

1:10:58request, direction of the division

1:10:59committee, they'll have the authority to

1:11:01perform the same duties as the chair or

1:11:02secretary.

1:11:03And then the secretary should keep the

1:11:05minutes of the division committee, have

1:11:06charge of the minute records, and be

1:11:08responsible for all correspondence of

1:11:10the division committee, authenticating

1:11:11any documents, records, anything like

1:11:13that. So the secretary shall cause

1:11:15copies of the minutes, records, and

1:11:17correspondence to be deposited with the

1:11:18clerk.

1:11:25>> Where should you be chair and vice

1:11:27chair, would any of you be willing to be

1:11:30secretary if you are not voted into our

1:11:32executive board?

1:11:34Six.

1:11:35If not, is there someone else who is

1:11:37willing to be a secretary? Again, I

1:11:40don't care if he uses AI and have a

1:11:42report and it takes a month and a half

1:11:44to do the ACC guidelines and student

1:11:46handbook, but if you want to do it, I

1:11:47can honestly do this.

1:11:49>> As long as the notes are accurate and

1:11:51they get voted in, I don't think it

1:11:53matters if you

1:11:56>> Just for the record, they get recorded

1:11:58correctly, voted on, and posted in the

1:12:00proper channels, so we will go over the

1:12:02next steps.

1:12:14>> We want to make it clear that we vote to

1:12:16discuss a vote for chair and then

1:12:22Seven is enough. [laughter]

1:12:24Excuse me, I have a question. Does this

1:12:25count as a vote for

1:12:25>> As long as it's a valid vote.

1:12:29>> Excuse me, can we talk about the

1:12:31executive

1:12:34I'll explain that.

1:12:35Thank you.

1:12:38Now, we only need billing once a year,

1:12:39so

1:12:40you may or may not be able to do the

1:12:42same thing.

1:12:43>> [laughter]

1:12:43>> All right, so we have Michael, Brian,

1:12:45and Rebecca Love all in the running for

1:12:48these two roles.

1:12:50I would say for

1:12:53Michael, would people like to vote We

1:12:55can do this anonymously if you would

1:12:57like. You can

1:12:58write down your ranking and then hand it

1:13:00to me, but that may be more helpful.

1:13:06>> Yeah, go for it, Michael.

1:13:07>> the motion to vote for Rebecca Love as

1:13:09chair. Vote for

1:13:10>> Yes.

1:13:13>> Uh I second.

1:13:14Yes.

1:13:18>> Yes.

1:13:19>> How

1:13:20do you feel about it? Vote in favor, say

1:13:23I.

1:13:24>> I abstain.

1:13:25>> Any nays?

1:13:27All right.

1:13:28Vote for your vice chair.

1:13:31Uh we have Brian and Michael as vice

1:13:33motion for a vice chair?

1:13:37>> I could be the vice chair first year.

1:13:43>> I'm happy to volunteer for the board.

1:14:05>> Motion to leave it to the Ryan and

1:14:06motion to leave it to Mike.

1:14:09>> I second.

1:14:13>> All those in favor say aye.

1:14:15>> Aye.

1:14:16>> Any opposed say nay.

1:14:19All right,

1:14:20you're our vice chair.

1:14:22>> Congratulations.

1:14:23>> Mike, did you have any interest in being

1:14:25secretary?

1:14:25>> No.

1:14:26>> Okay.

1:14:28We We really appreciate your willingness

1:14:30to make that

1:14:31clear. So, thank you.

1:14:33We as a state made you a very active

1:14:36member if you were only willing to step

1:14:37up. So,

1:14:39knowing that that being the case, your

1:14:40chances of you being a strong

1:14:43secretary

1:14:44We still have this.

1:14:48You can make a recommendation for other

1:14:50people. You don't have to nominate

1:14:51yourself if you have a suggestion.

1:14:58>> I nominate Chris for the last two years.

1:15:13>> Matt has been handling secretary duties

1:15:14for the past She's been passing the

1:15:16mantle.

1:15:24Are you willing to accept that

1:15:26nomination?

1:15:27>> I am.

1:15:27>> I second.

1:15:33All right.

1:15:34Do I have a

1:15:35I have a second?

1:15:36I have a motion

1:15:39for that. All right.

1:15:41All right, second.

1:15:45All those in favor say

1:15:47>> I do.

1:15:48>> All those opposed?

1:15:51All right, we have our three officers.

1:15:53Thank you guys so much.

1:16:01>> [laughter]

1:16:02>> Uh

1:16:04So, now

1:16:06um our next meeting is in February, but

1:16:07we do have notes from today.

1:16:11Um we can send those along with put them

1:16:13up there and have everybody read through

1:16:15them and then we can vote on them. Uh I

1:16:17will relinquish my responsibility now

1:16:19and have this as you because you have

1:16:21been voted in.

1:16:26>> Um Corey, my Wi-Fi decided to connect

1:16:28after we left, so I can do that.

1:16:31>> Perfect.

1:16:31>> Well, you seems me.

1:16:33>> Yes.

1:16:35>> So, you're in that situation.

1:16:40>> I was going to say that we could read

1:16:41them aloud if we needed to, but I think

1:16:42that's great that you're doing that.

1:16:47>> Mark, you're the last house, right?

1:16:49>> Yes.

1:16:51Now, I did you remember I you were the

1:16:53one who did it.

1:16:55Yes, I did.

1:16:56So, that's where it gets

1:17:15Also, are you going to take this down or

1:17:18I just like this.

1:17:24We're so close. Come on.

1:17:27Uh

1:17:28we'll make it through the year.

1:17:33Sweet.

1:17:42You guys see it better?

1:17:51I'm going to go as fast as I can without

1:17:53offending

1:17:54>> All is good.

1:18:02>> Yeah.

1:18:03Scroll up.

1:18:04I mean the whole meeting time.

1:18:06Yeah, I did.

1:18:07It would be one of the things that I

1:18:08would have to do right now. Yeah, it's

1:18:10like two minutes. So, that's why

1:18:14Let me know if I'm scrolling too

1:18:16quickly.

1:18:39Let me know when you're

1:19:16>> Motion approved in the October 28th

1:19:19minutes.

1:19:19>> Yeah,

1:19:20that makes sense.

1:19:28I watched the last meeting.

1:19:30Yeah, it was fun. What was that last one

1:19:32you said?

1:19:36Uh

1:19:38Oh, that's good.

1:19:38>> Oh, that's good.

1:19:40>> I'm good to go to the next one.

1:19:44Almost.

1:19:54All right.

1:19:5910.9. Great match, guys. We'll see you

1:20:02all February 13th.

1:20:04Here at the possibility of ice.

1:20:07Oh yes, the greatest guy around.

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