2026-10-28 - Vision Committee
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- The committee held an orientation and training session led by Housing and Community Development staff for the FY28 funding review cycle. No funding decisions or application votes were taken. See Vision Committee FY28 Funding Cycle.
- Staff reviewed conflict-of-interest and confidentiality policies; members must sign forms and recuse themselves from discussions and votes involving organizations they are affiliated with.
- The committee discussed becoming an official board, adopting bylaws, and a pending ordinance expected before the Mayor and Commission in December.
- Staff described the federal Community Development Block Grant funds (with caps on administration and public services), the HOME program for affordable housing construction (which the committee will not score), a county-funded housing counseling program (committee rates community impact) and the Community Partnerships Program, which the committee alone scores on a 100-point scale weighted toward outcomes and performance, then financial ability, community involvement, and organizational capacity.
- Timeline: applications go to the committee December 14, reviews are due January 29 and the scoring meeting is February 17, followed by a Mayor and Commission work session April 13, agenda setting April 20 and a voting session May 4.
- Members elected officers for the year.
Agenda
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Sources
- Video: https://www.youtube.com/live/01XAn_PlLr4 (Athens-Clarke County YouTube channel)
- Agenda Center: https://accgov.com/AgendaCenter
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Transcript
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Transcript
01:42Oh sure, yeah. We got some staff joining
01:44us as well this morning that'll be
01:45helping our presentation. So, love to
01:47introduce ourselves.
01:47>> Hi, I'm Nick Stepp. I'm the program
01:49housing coordinator here at HCD.
01:51>> So, I work in the local housing
01:53division. So, we do both compliance and
01:56day-to-day housing.
01:57>> [snorts]
01:57>> I'm Marcia
01:59and I'm the community development
02:00administrator and I work in the
02:01community services
02:09>> Eazy-E
02:28>> Uh my name is Joe Hill. I work for
02:29Robins Financial Opportunity.
02:32I've worked a little bit there. I've
02:34been in Athens in banking for
02:38recent years.
02:41Yeah, I got uh kids in college and
02:44one that's a junior at Central. So,
02:46first year I've been in the county.
02:48>> Uh my name is Michael London. I've lived
02:50in Athens this time for over 20 years.
02:54Went to school here. My children went to
02:56school here. My grandchildren will go to
02:57school here in a year.
02:59Um and semi-retired after three
03:03different retirements. So,
03:08>> Um I'm Ryan Thompson. This is my first
03:10year doing this. Um
03:12I'm a fifth year mechanical engineering
03:14student right now at UGA. Also studying
03:17masters in social policy.
03:21>> Thank you all. It's nice to have you
03:23this morning. Thanks for sharing a
03:24little bit about what you do. And um
03:26so, basically today the goal of this
03:29meeting is going to be to do a little
03:30bit of training. It's nice to again that
03:32we have all of our new folks here cuz
03:33we're going to be covering some stuff
03:35related to, you know, the main reason
03:37you all are here, which is reviewing and
03:38scoring uh current FY20A applications
03:42for three different funding sources. So,
03:44we'll go through uh member orientation,
03:46which will cover just general
03:47information about HC D, uh and then
03:50specifics about the different funding
03:52sources, past funded projects, things of
03:55that sort, and then kind of looking
03:57forward
03:58um
03:59you know, upcoming dates for when the
04:01applications will be released to you and
04:02when they are reviewed, what the scoring
04:04matrix will look like for different
04:06programs and things of that sort. So,
04:08uh
04:16This is Lizette. She's also a community
04:18impact specialist on the CI team.
04:21Uh and then yeah, well just so you can
04:23see the agenda, we'll cover a few
04:24different things. We'll cover the
04:25upcoming schedule. Uh there's some
04:27conflict of interest confidentiality
04:29policies and procedures we'll cover. We
04:31got email out to you all yesterday, but
04:32also there's copies on the table, so
04:34we'll need everyone to sign those.
04:36Uh and then I've got some general
04:37updates on the vision committee and now
04:39that it's been voted in as an
04:41official board of the organization,
04:43there's some various things that we'll
04:44discuss there. Uh we actually only have
04:47one returning officer kind of related to
04:50that, who is Allison Holloway. She's a
04:52vice chair from last year. She
04:53unfortunately had a conflicting meeting
04:55and can't be here for about halfway
04:57through. So, I've bumped down our new
04:59selection officer. So, we'll take a few
05:01minutes uh and vote in a new chair and
05:04secretary as well for the upcoming year.
05:07And so, Matt is going to be taking our
05:08notes for right now. Uh and then the
05:11week forward after that, the secretary
05:12will kind of handle those duties for
05:15meeting minutes and things of that sort.
05:17So,
05:18we can get started with the presentation
05:20and you know, we'll we'll have time for
05:22questions at the end as well. So, we'll
05:24go through some of this and I'll send
05:25this presentation out to you all at the
05:27end of the meeting once we're done.
05:28>> Yeah, I'm Lizette Aguilar Pi and I'm
05:30Alejandra Cavazos, the assistant
05:32director of HCD. Also, I'm on tech duty
05:35today.
05:36Um along those lines, just a reminder
05:37this is being live streamed. Um so,
05:40that's that's what this little owl thing
05:42is over here. And the recording will be
05:44available on the website just for future
05:45reference. So,
05:46>> Yes, thank you for the disclaimer.
05:48>> Yes.
05:51Yeah.
05:52All right.
05:53>> So, just this is our mission statement.
05:55Housing Community Development Department
05:57provides funding for the creation and
05:58rehabilitation of affordable housing,
06:01fosters and coordinates for
06:02disadvantaged populations, and promotes
06:05mobility among residents of the County.
06:08So that's kind of the main
06:10We just feel again all of what we're
06:12doing with all of the funding sources
06:13and things of that nature.
06:21My computer hates a presentation day. It
06:24always decides that it wants to mess up
06:26on me. So
06:32I can't see that we got the volume cuz I
06:33can't see anything.
06:36I have Bridget outside that I can hear
06:39this and hear that.
06:53Oh,
06:542 minutes 2 minutes.
06:57We're trying to be punctual today.
07:18I'll go ahead and cover our conflict of
07:20interest and all that stuff that we
07:21want.
07:22>> Mhm.
07:22>> Okay.
07:23Well, we'll go around all of this
07:25conflict of interest.
07:27The one that I don't have to stop
07:28spinning in front of you and an email
07:30like I said yesterday you should have
07:32received uh the conflict of interest and
07:35confidentiality
07:37Um and just kind of a note on that so
07:40emails and things that go out any
07:41communication forward uh
07:43all be through your ACC gov email.
07:46That's just to kind of keep things
07:48streamlined. Open records request things
07:50of that sort it keeps all that very
07:51simple and streamlined and easy. So
07:53we'll do all of our official
07:54communication
07:56uh over that. You know, you can always
07:57call me if you have a quick question or
07:58something as well if you're if you're
08:00having an issue with your email or
08:01something like that please let me know.
08:03I can reach out to IT and we can we can
08:05help you get that sorted. So uh the
08:07first one we can talk about is our
08:09conflict of interest policy. So,
08:12this is really just a space uh this
08:15includes the policy and then on the back
08:17I'll need to get one of these one of
08:18these signed from each of you today.
08:21Uh but really a lot of you are very
08:23involved in the community in various
08:24ways, which is wonderful uh on boards,
08:28connected to previous you know,
08:30non-profit organizations previously,
08:32things like that. So, really what we
08:34want to know here is are there any
08:37connections you have in outside of this
08:39group that might cause, you know,
08:41perceived or you know, just some sort of
08:45conflict of interest in general or
08:48something that could have the appearance
08:49of personal gain. So, for example, this
08:52is obviously, you know, obvious, but
08:54like if you're on the board of an
08:55organization or the executive director
08:57of an organization that's applying for
08:58funds,
09:00you have a major conflict of interest.
09:01You can't vote and discuss that. So, uh
09:04we do have a couple of those. And the
09:06way we handle that is essentially the
09:08person who is maybe on the board or who
09:11is works for the organization that's
09:12applying for funding, that person would
09:14just recuse themselves from voting on
09:16that particular application. And then
09:18during any discussion [clears throat]
09:19in our February meeting, they would just
09:21step out of the room and that's how we
09:24typically handle that. So, this really
09:26it's not a major issue, it's just we
09:28need to know up front so that we know
09:29how to handle it and we can talk about
09:31it in the most appropriate way possible.
09:32So, if you have any questions about
09:35whether a relationship with an
09:36organization may or may not be a
09:37conflict of interest that you want to
09:38talk about, you know, right after this
09:40meeting before you complete this, I'd be
09:42happy to do that with you as well.
09:44Uh
09:45So, what you'll be signing that you
09:47agree and acknowledge the conflict of
09:48interest policy and then the back is
09:50where you can actually list out those
09:53uh conflicts of interest that you know
09:54of or may have.
09:56So.
09:57Any questions about that one?
10:02All right.
10:03And then our confidentiality policy,
10:05this is something that we distributed
10:06this year and it's something that's
10:08covered in the new BAC manual that I
10:12probably sent out to you all that it was
10:13approved in
10:15November or December of 2025. So, it
10:18includes a section
10:20on confidentiality, but really this is
10:22just acknowledging that you know, you're
10:25going to receive some information that
10:27may or may not be appropriate to share
10:30out in the public, frankly speaking. So,
10:33you're going to have access to things
10:35like we require organizations to submit
10:37audits. They're submitting budgets.
10:39They're submitting all of this kind of
10:41sensitive information about their agency
10:43that's required and helpful for their
10:44application process, but it's not
10:47they're not submitting it with the
10:48understanding that it's going to be out
10:50there for everybody to see. Now, they do
10:52all know that our stuff is subject to
10:54public records requests, but not
10:56everything is subject to public records
10:58requests. So, this is basically just you
11:00acknowledging that
11:02anything that you receive, you're not
11:04going to
11:05you're going to keep that in confidence,
11:07and anything that, you know, may be
11:09acquired through another records request
11:11that is on here, and that is how that
11:13would be handled in the public records
11:15So, I mean any questions about the
11:16confidentiality policy?
11:18Okay. Obviously, these meetings are live
11:20streamed. We discussed that, and so this
11:22is public knowledge, public information.
11:25So, there there are elements of that to
11:28that.
11:32Correct.
11:34The other thing that we've got up is our
11:37taking new vision committee member
11:39trainings and things like that. I know
11:41believe pretty much everyone has
11:43completed that based on the report I
11:44looked at, but does anyone have any
11:45questions or have any you know
11:48concerns about anything within this
11:49training that you want to discuss, or
11:51any issues with completing the
11:52trainings?
11:54I got a couple certificates of
11:55completion from the public folks. So,
11:56thanks for sending that. I also get a
11:58report every month, but I can see that
12:00they're all done.
12:03Good job.
12:06>> Great.
12:07>> It's still on.
12:07>> And then you're hearing all the clicks
12:08and clacks.
12:09>> I can't help it.
12:10>> I'm going to keep on It's okay.
12:14>> Um
12:15Let's go ahead and jump down item D as
12:18well. Specifically just to pull up
12:21separate update on bylaws and BAC
12:24ordinance. So,
12:25uh one thing that we'll discuss in a
12:27little bit more detail throughout the
12:28presentation is the vision committee
12:30became formalized for the authority
12:32commission uh at a meeting December 11th
12:36last year. So, uh part of that was at
12:39the meeting that we had in the first
12:41recently, we
12:43the the previous members of the vision
12:45committee
12:46all voted on board officers and met and
12:49got a sub committee to create bylaws, uh
12:51which will then guide how we
12:54move forward as a vision committee. And
12:56I sent those out to everyone over email
12:57at some point, but to refresh your
12:59memory, I put a couple of printed copies
13:01of the bylaws up on the table so if
13:02you'd like to take a look. Uh
13:06And so, really that just covers
13:08attendance, uh
13:10things of that sort, you know, if you
13:11don't
13:12don't attend
13:14all the meetings, it could
13:16you know, jeopardize your position on
13:17the vision committee. You could be voted
13:18to be removed cuz there's really only
13:20two. And so, it's important that we're
13:23able to make it to all of the meetings
13:25that that we have.
13:27Uh
13:28and then
13:29part of that that will be coming up to
13:30is that there's a new BA
13:33Basically, that's all done good. We've
13:35got bylaws. We've got these things.
13:36We've got officers. The process is in
13:38place, but there's a new BAC ordinance
13:40that will be voted on by the mayor and
13:42commission, hopefully in December. Uh
13:44that will actually codify all those
13:46things
13:47um that we have been doing bylaws, that
13:49type of stuff.
13:51>> I got it running.
13:53>> Okay.
13:55>> I'm sorry.
13:56Choice number one was
13:57>> Great. Uh which one was that again?
14:02>> I got this one as the old group.
14:05>> This one?
14:05The other one?
14:07Right.
14:08But before we jump into that, any
14:10questions about anything provided in the
14:11bylaws, BAC ordinance, any of that stuff
14:13that we've been talking about?
14:15Okay.
14:16Well, we'll jump back to item C now and
14:18we will get into the actual
14:20presentation. So, I'll continue with
14:22this. I've got a few things I'm going to
14:23share with you all and then I'll be
14:24covering later in the presentation
14:27CVP stuff specifically, but we've got
14:29some folks that you all met earlier from
14:32our housing team and our community
14:33development team that will be discussing
14:35CDBG and housing counseling related
14:37projects for you as well. So, what is
14:39the role of the vision committee? So,
14:42as you all probably know, the vision
14:43committee is you know, citizen advisory
14:46group of 10 Athens-Clarke County
14:47residents
14:48appointed by the mayor for 3-year terms.
14:51So, really what you're here to do is to
14:54provide input on, you know, community
14:56needs that may be addressed through our
14:58different funding sources. So, this year
14:59that you're what you're reviewing,
15:01community development block grant, CDBG
15:03for short, it's probably what I'll keep
15:04calling it, our housing counseling
15:06program, and community partnership
15:09program funding, CVP. So, there's a lot
15:11of acronyms, so just kind of if you have
15:13questions or need these spelled out, let
15:15me know.
15:16But, you are going to be evaluating
15:17these applications to make sure, you
15:18know, they appropriately appropriately
15:20meet the consolidated plan goals,
15:23address prioritized community needs,
15:27and you know, ultimately who it benefits
15:29for the community based on the criteria
15:31that you're going to rate as part of
15:32these.
15:33And then you'll also, you know, provide
15:35feedback on these applications. We
15:37really encourage that throughout the
15:38process. Zoom Grants, which is the
15:41platform where you'll be reviewing these
15:43applications, allows you not just to
15:44rank and score the application, but also
15:46provide comments and feedback, which is
15:48incredibly helpful when we're providing
15:50technical assistance for agencies in
15:52future application years. I can go back
15:55and pull and say, well, you know, my
15:57this
15:58committee Well, not your comments are
16:00confident. So, I wouldn't say who said
16:02it, but I'd say, "This person on the
16:03vision committee said, you know,
16:05the application maybe could have been
16:06improved in this way." And then they can
16:08use that to then better
16:10their standing for next year. So,
16:12we'll
16:13have this meeting, obviously, and then
16:14we've got one more meeting, which is
16:16already set for February 17th where we
16:19will actually need to discuss your
16:21rankings and then score and make those
16:23sundry recommendations.
16:31So these are our current bidding
16:32committee members.
16:34Uh so we these kind of just broken up by
16:37year
16:38and where you are but we've got
16:40Ron. Well, obviously you all know who is
16:42here today but the folks who aren't able
16:44to who are aren't here today uh Zachary
16:46Crew isn't here
16:48and then Chabot Hollabaugh and then
16:50Allison Always will be here probably
16:53around
16:5410 a.m. she said or 10:30 5 so we'll
16:57have her joining us
16:58and then
17:01Hey, I've been seeing you talk and you
17:02shouldn't have sleeping on the sleeping
17:04on the bidding
17:05committee shortly.
17:11These are some important considerations.
17:13We've covered some of this so yeah, so
17:15this was approved in November of 2025
17:18excuse me.
17:19So we're now you know the bidding
17:21committee is a formalized board
17:22authority commission
17:24so we
17:25will select officers in accordance to
17:27the bylaws. We've already developed
17:29those.
17:30They may change slightly
17:32language wise after the AC ordinance is
17:35approved. So if that happens, you know
17:39we're doing the documents and things of
17:40that nature.
17:42Uh but one of the other requirements
17:43obviously is that members must complete
17:46that five
17:47module training course on Kate May which
17:49you've all done and then we also will
17:52have to submit an annual report to Mary
17:55Commission outlining key activities. So
17:57that is a responsibility
17:59that we can talk about how to do that.
18:00It's something that will fall to the
18:02chair of the commission but obviously
18:03support from your staff agencies which
18:06are myself and
18:08Kate May.
18:10And then we talked about conflict of
18:11interest and again just please remember
18:13attendance to these meetings
18:15is is critical. So if you could just go
18:17ahead and mark off that February
18:19today so that it's on the calendar and
18:21you know what's happening.
18:23Cuz that wrap really is the most
18:25significant
18:26whole deal.
18:27You'll be involved in.
18:31Uh and then the expectation is that you
18:32will complete all reviews of all
18:35projects that you're tasked with.
18:43Just some additional important
18:44considerations.
18:46The subject to open records and open
18:47meeting laws, so we do stuff like that.
18:49We can livestream these. We'll record
18:51meeting minutes. They'll be signed,
18:53approved, and voted on. And then agendas
18:55and minutes will be posted online. Um
18:58ample advanced notice has to be given
19:01to the public about these meetings,
19:02which hopefully y'all don't have to
19:03worry about us. I'm here to take care of
19:05so I'll I'll post these things on the
19:07public calendar, post them on the little
19:09message boards outside of this building,
19:11create the agendas, post them on
19:12Facebook, and all that stuff. So, really
19:15the responsibility of
19:17of you all is just to kind of once we
19:19have officers and everything in place,
19:20put all that together, kind of
19:21facilitate the management portion of the
19:23whole process, and then submit that to
19:25me and get it appointments together.
19:32It's all about staff liaison as myself
19:34and Al Hunter. We basically will just
19:36kind of will lead the process and just
19:38kind of help facilitate what you're all
19:40doing.
19:42There's a mixture of staff involvement
19:44and your involvement as part of rating
19:46and ranking applications will will talk
19:48about later. Um
19:50but really so again, that is your
19:52starting. So, for CDBG Housing
19:54Counseling, you have you all are scoring
19:56just a portion of the application and
19:58staff is also scoring a portion. Um so,
20:00then there's combined things come
20:02together. The CBP programs, the
20:04Community Partnerships program, is
20:06unique for y'all because it's it's
20:07totally up to you. It is your ratings
20:11and rankings are the only factor that go
20:13into whether or not CDBG gets funded or
20:14not.
20:15Uh and so, it's important, you know,
20:18and that you just look at all the
20:19applications and are aware and
20:21understand the rating criteria and
20:22things of that sort. So, when we're
20:24going through your ranking and scoring
20:26in February,
20:28you know, that will totally be up to you
20:30all. We won't be
20:31swaying your decision anyway. We can
20:33provide feedback, we can give you any
20:34information to help your decision, but
20:37ultimately that decision is up to you.
20:40And so, yeah, you'll be able to consider
20:42past performance for agencies who's been
20:44funded in the past. We'll get that all
20:45to you all in ample time to review.
20:49And then, Zoom Grants which I'm not
20:51going to cover today because
20:53it's you're not going to get the info
20:54applications open to you until December.
20:57So, I'll email that training out to you
20:58how to access Zoom Grants a little bit
21:00closer to the time.
21:02It's not super tricky or anything, but
21:04it can be a little
21:05nuanced and I don't want you to forget
21:06about it. So, we'll get that to you
21:08closer to when it's available.
21:13Great. So, the next few slides are just
21:14going to be on our different funding
21:15sources, kind of some
21:17past examples that have been awarded,
21:18kind of what they're for, things of that
21:20nature.
21:22And how we start with Oh, well, yes, so
21:25this is just an overview. So, you all
21:27are not obviously
21:29tied to all of these, but regular annual
21:31funding that we have is the Community
21:32Development Block Grant, the Home
21:34Investment Partnerships Program,
21:36Continuum of Care, and then general
21:38funds including CDBG and housing
21:39counseling. And then some other
21:41supplemental funding we have is a Lead
21:42Hazard Reduction and Capacity Building
21:45Grant,
21:46CDBG, American Rescue Plan Act. Those
21:49were a product specific to
21:52COVID and so this is going away, but our
21:55bill will be finished up at the end of
21:56this year, but still kind of happening
21:58so let that be known.
21:59And then, HOME ARP as well, very
22:01similar.
22:06We'll turn it over to Abe or Martha. Are
22:09you guys Are you regular grants
22:14>> So, just real quick, I'm one
22:17The Community Development Block Grant
22:18funding is
22:20As a county, it's an entitlement
22:21community which is awarded funds and the
22:24basis of formula grant by HUD. And I'm
22:26not sure but I think we're going to the
22:28amounts a little bit later on, but we
22:29get about one to two million dollars
22:31annually that's part of this program. It
22:34covers things from supporting affordable
22:36housing, public facility improvements,
22:39economic development activities, which
22:41are slightly different than general
22:43economic development is mostly for
22:45neighborhood revitalization, things of
22:47that nature, and then some public
22:48service dollars.
22:51I'm going to get to part cuz I know
22:52there's another slide there that talks
22:54about the breakdown, so
22:56Okay.
22:57So,
22:58So for last year, um
23:00like I said, we got 1.247 million. There
23:03are some regulatory caps that come along
23:05with the federal funding.
23:07Uh we take 20% is allowable for
23:10administrative costs, that comes off the
23:12top, and then there is a limit to how
23:15much money we can put into services,
23:16which is 15% of our allocation, which we
23:20get a lot of applications and only about
23:21$180,000 to award. So, it's very small
23:25portion of CDBG that goes towards public
23:27service activities.
23:29Um the bulk of that is banned for
23:31economic
23:32remainder is economic development and um
23:35affordable housing
23:37um activities, and then we do have
23:40on occasion the past few years had some
23:41public facility improvements that we've
23:43done.
23:44Um some park improvements we did at the
23:46low to income neighborhoods. Everything
23:48that we do for CDBG has to benefit low
23:50and moderate income neighborhoods or
23:52individuals.
23:55>> Next page.
23:56>> What is that?
23:58>> Yes.
23:58>> What does that mean from
23:59I guess I could be eating dinner
24:02standpoint?
24:02>> Okay, so depending is a sliding scale
24:05that HUD publishes annually. So, um
24:08moderate income is 80% of the average
24:10for the area. So,
24:13think for a family of four and a half
24:14people, it might be like $80,000 for a
24:16family of four or less.
24:18Um but depending on your family size,
24:21there is a sliding scale, and HUD
24:23doesn't really know
24:25I don't see any control over how that
24:26was determined. I will say they are
24:29doing some new things with a sliding
24:32scale for some of the other funding for
24:33CVP or CVP, which is slightly different,
24:36but they are close. Um but you won't
24:39have to get into that detail.
24:41We can always ask questions and answer
24:43questions. Yes, sir.
24:45>> You know, when you're going down that
24:46line
24:47in the FY '27 142 mil,
24:50and then you start splitting it out
24:53into three different program areas,
24:56that's not a lot of money.
24:57>> It is not.
24:58>> So,
25:00why do you decide to split it
25:02into three pieces rather than just
25:05concentrating it in in one particular
25:08program area where you can have a bigger
25:10impact?
25:11>> We can do that. It depends on the
25:13applications that we receive and how
25:15those rankings pan out. So,
25:18the
25:19we have not our consolidated plan. I
25:21think there might be a a slide in here
25:22that establishes some priorities um that
25:25was established in 2025 for our con plan
25:27for the for the five years that governs
25:29the funding for CDBG and those
25:31priorities help us rank and review those
25:35applications as they come in.
25:37>> Well, Carl, that leads me to a question
25:39I was going to ask you, but I didn't
25:40want to interrupt you.
25:44On the previous chart, you talked about
25:47for CDBG,
25:50the rating is just one factor.
25:54So, what are the other factors and who
25:56decides?
25:58>> Yeah.
25:58>> Oh, sorry.
25:59Yeah, but we will get into the details
26:02about it. The rating your rating is only
26:04one factor. So, like staff's rating and
26:07then the vision committee's rating,
26:08those your rating are different.
26:09Fortunately, the application which we'll
26:10talk about, there's a section for you
26:12all. And then ultimately, I mean, we
26:14recommend funding to the mayor's
26:16commission. They that's kind of how
26:18they decide on factors.
26:20>> Let me follow that up with a
26:23question and that is,
26:25you know, it talk talks about in the
26:27statement for the committee,
26:30it talks about providing input on
26:32emerging emerging community needs.
26:35So,
26:37who does that needs assessment, how
26:39often is it done, and what role do we
26:41have
26:43in determining what those needs are?
26:45>> Yeah, so we typically the planning
26:47commission committee, as Marsha was
26:48mentioning, every 5 years HUD requires
26:51us as a county
26:52uh so the county and community in
26:54particular to do a consolidated plan
26:56that identifies the priorities for our
26:58needs for the next 5 years. So, when
27:00that comes up, that's an opportunity
27:02where we bring the mission committee. Um
27:04you're also in every funding
27:06recommendation, every rating you're
27:08you're providing us with, you're also
27:11helping us identify needs that you see
27:14in the community. For example, last
27:15year's mission committee uh was really
27:17interested in providing money for youth
27:19development programs, and so their
27:21rankings and funding recommendations
27:23kind of geared a little bit more towards
27:25that than that for past previous mission
27:27committee. So, those are just two quick
27:29examples of how you all as the body help
27:32us identify and fund those needs.
27:35So, also whenever we do strategic plans,
27:38like when we did the homelessness and
27:39housing plan
27:40last 3 years ago 2 or 3 years ago, the
27:43mission committee at that one was also a
27:45very full part of that feedback
27:48providing input.
27:49>> So, we've got a coffee plan?
27:52>> Absolutely. Yeah, we can provide it.
27:58>> Uh the Home Investment Partnerships
28:00Program, or HOME as we love to call it,
28:02is um
28:03another HUD community planning
28:06department's funding source, and it
28:09generally
28:11exclusively leads to the construction of
28:13a affordable housing units. So,
28:16usually CDBG can be done to support
28:18housing, but we just have to do the
28:21role. Um usually you cannot use CDBG to
28:23construct new units. You can do
28:25supportive instruction, things like
28:27that. And HOME was
28:29upright construction. We're building
28:30units for this. So, every HOME dollar
28:32has to result in a home unit to a
28:35affordable
28:36low-income family or children.
28:41So, home
28:42home allocations
28:43932,000 a year. This is what you can see
28:46what we did last year. I'm not going to
28:47go over the details. You can go back and
28:48do it. There's a 10% administration cap
28:51for um
28:53home, which is slightly different than
28:54CDBG, which allows 20%. Those are
28:56regulatory
28:57um federal guidelines.
29:02And I don't know much about the housing
29:04program. So, if you want to know
29:07housing program.
29:08>> I'll talk about it a little bit more
29:09later, but
29:10>> So,
29:11>> Yeah.
29:12>> Saying that some of this is
29:13>> So, starting in FY25 in the
29:16Athens-Clarke County budget, the mayor
29:17and commission decided to set aside
29:19$100,000 of general funds to do housing
29:22counseling and financial financial
29:25counseling. Um
29:28in the first year of the program, the
29:29Athens Land Trust and East Athens
29:31Development Corporation were selected to
29:34receive these funding. Um
29:37and that first year as it was kind of
29:39getting off the ground, they just
29:41extended the contract through FY26.
29:44So, our third our you know, second and
29:46competitive round was last year in FY27.
29:49The Athens Community Council on Aging
29:51and East Athens Development Corporation
29:53both received funding that year. And
29:56again, this year for FY28, we have
29:58$100,000
30:00um that will be on a competitive basis
30:03and and I'll talk about it in more
30:04detail later, but you all are part of
30:07those ratings.
30:12Oh, yeah. This is This is just a
30:13breakdown so you can kind of see how the
30:15funds um have been allocated over the
30:17past few years. So, like I was saying
30:20initially FY25
30:22um went to East Athens and the Land
30:24Trust. That got extended through with 40
30:27and 60,000 in FY26.
30:30And then,
30:32you can see you know, there's about
30:36>> 2/3 of the money about went to these
30:38efforts last year and the the remainder
30:40went to
30:41uh reading council each year.
30:46That's it.
30:48>> All right. So, the next funding
30:49opportunity we'll talk a little bit
30:50about is our community partnerships
30:52program. Uh so, this one again is the
30:55one that we all are aware of. Total
30:57ownership over in the storing and the
30:59ranking portion. So, just a little bit
31:01of history about the community
31:02partnership program. Um basically, it's
31:05kind of the idea started in 2023. It was
31:08proposed. Uh but the first funding year
31:10for CDBG was FY25. So,
31:14uh
31:15in support of the FY26 to 28 strategic
31:17plan, they can still apply for funding
31:19to support community service.
31:22Uh there's two categories of community
31:23services, which has three things under
31:25it. They were to provide revitalization,
31:26poverty reduction, and economic
31:28strength. And then, intervention and
31:29prevention or homeless services
31:31activity. So, we'll get into the weeds
31:33about this a little bit here later. Uh
31:35but FY25 funding was, you know, $871,000
31:39and some change. Uh and then, starting
31:42in FY26, it moved up to a million
31:44dollars. And so, that has been the
31:46recurring funding for last
31:48[clears throat] year, and that's what's
31:49available uh currently for FY28
31:52resources. And our application release
31:54for that was on October 28th.
31:58And this is just kind of most recent.
32:00So, for FY27, you can kind of see our
32:03various funding allocations here. Again,
32:05it was a million dollars. Uh
32:08and so, you can see a large portion of
32:10that went to intervention and
32:11prevention. Uh
32:13and some uh 14% poverty reduction and
32:15economic strength, and then homeless
32:17services. Um so, this is just kind of to
32:19give you a snapshot of, you know, the
32:21prioritization of funding that the
32:22divisional committee had last year.
32:28Okay.
32:29So, the consolidated plan, I know that
32:32um Michael was asking about this earlier
32:33as well. There's a lot of information in
32:36the consolidated plan. I know that Al
32:38Hunter briefly you just kind of covered
32:39what that looks like a second ago, so
32:41I'm not going to necessarily recap all
32:43that. I can send out a copy of this
32:45consolidated plan as well as the link to
32:48or the copy of the FY26 through the
32:51community strategic plan for you all
32:52that way you just have a kind of all the
32:54money on it easily as you're going
32:56through the process.
33:00Uh but our consolidated plan goals for
33:02FY26 through 30 are affordable housing
33:04and redevelopment, public services,
33:07economic development, and public
33:08facilities improvements.
33:13And the And so there's several slides
33:15just kind of getting into the weeds of
33:16what each of those things look like. And
33:18so for the affordable housing
33:19development, you know, the goal there is
33:21to foster foster an affordable housing
33:23market that meets the needs of average
33:25Stark County residents through the
33:26creation and preservation of a variety
33:28of housing and those
33:32And then so affordable housing goal
33:35strategies, uh again, this is a lot of
33:37information. There's a lot of things
33:39kind of tied to different funding
33:40sources and things of that nature. So,
33:43um I won't necessarily read through all
33:45of these strategies for you, but you
33:47will receive a copy of these slides and
33:48you'll be able to have this just to kind
33:49of get a better sense of what what we're
33:51doing.
33:52>> I'm going to interrupt here. There are
33:54This will go through examples of each of
33:56the goals, but that's part of the reason
33:59why for CDBG in particular, um vision
34:02committee does a portion of the funding
34:04and has staff doing a lot of There's a
34:05lot of new laws and regulatory
34:07requirements to meet eligibility
34:08criteria that you cannot be expected to
34:11know in this short time. So, that's why
34:13you're only funding a portion of our
34:15Excuse me, scoring a portion of the
34:18application, which we'll break down that
34:19for you in the slides later on. So, you
34:21can always rely on us to ask us
34:22questions if you have You're going to
34:23have access to all of these things and
34:25to the whole application. Um so, if you
34:28have questions, please reach out, but
34:30don't feel like you have to become an
34:31expert on all of these goals and that's
34:33all of the activities cuz they're a lot
34:35of
34:36>> Thank you.
34:37>> Okay. For that clarification.
34:39>> video wall don't want to leave you all
34:40just leave here feeling like you have
34:42to, you know, do a dissertation on CDBG
34:44funding in the county like so.
34:47Um
34:48All right. So, just so you can see here
34:50FY27 CDBG and HOME affordable housing
34:53programs. Um so, you can kind of see
34:55what the awarded activity is. So, we'll
34:57give some of our community partners that
34:58receive that those funding sources at
35:01Athens Habitat for Humanity,
35:03uh the Housing Authority, Athens Land
35:05Trust, Historic Athens.
35:07Um and so, you can see some emergency
35:09services We have a lot of agencies in
35:11the community that receive multiple
35:13funding sources from us either for the
35:15same project possibly if it's larger you
35:17can kind of stack those um those levels
35:20of support, but then also you know, for
35:23individual projects as well. So.
35:26>> Yeah. And I do want to clarify those
35:28awards that you see there for Habitat
35:30and um the Housing Authority, those
35:32awards were actually in FY26, but
35:35because of the nature of the contracting
35:36and the projects, they're actually being
35:39activated within well those contracts
35:41within this fiscal year. So, it's a
35:42little bit of confusing in that sense.
35:46>> And again, HOME is one of those that
35:48you're not necessarily going to be able
35:50to be able to do anything with, but in
35:51the interest of just sharing what HCD
35:53does and the scope and the the breadth
35:55of the funding sources, we just wanted
35:56you to kind of see
35:58that. Can I say something real quick and
36:00then
36:00>> Absolutely. So, one thing that you
36:01probably will see in the CDBG
36:03applications is
36:05supporting home projects. So, one of the
36:07ways you see CDBG used to support those
36:10funded home projects and so, there's
36:11everything from Housing Authority and
36:13the Land Trust, Habitat. You will likely
36:16see certain activities that are about
36:19supporting those projects. So, it's just
36:21a matter of instance and general
36:22information.
36:26>> If y'all agree with this, it's great
36:28that So, jump in if you've got it, but
36:30this is it's welcome.
36:32Uh so, we've got goal two, public
36:34services. And so, that's really just to
36:35enhance the quality of life through
36:37programs and services that meet the
36:39needs of residents of Clark County. So,
36:41the next couple slides we'll go through
36:42some you know, what the goal areas of
36:44that are and then previously funded
36:46projects.
36:49So again, this is some public goal
36:51services and strategies, but that's you
36:53know, homelessness for individuals and
36:55families,
36:56youth development and violence
36:58prevention, and then serving low and
37:00moderate income households as well.
37:07>> 50 eligible public services and regional
37:10There's a lot of things under CDBG that
37:12are eligible in our consolidated
37:14planning process. Um
37:16the these were the top three strategies
37:18that were identified. So these are the
37:20five already made means of how public
37:22services are centered. So homelessness
37:24being the first, then youth development
37:26and violence prevention, and then the
37:28last is
37:30eligible activities that support any of
37:32the other goals. And anything that's
37:33related to affordable housing or
37:35economic development or something that
37:37is going to fall inside of the public
37:38facility improvement. Those are also
37:40eligible. Um there might be some other
37:43activities
37:44under CDBG that are eligible but they
37:45might not necessarily be our our
37:47consolidated planning goals. And that's
37:49why this might be a good example. And
37:51that's why this might be a good
37:53example.
37:56>> Any questions?
37:57>> Mhm.
38:00>> Do you want to talk about this for a
38:02second, I think?
38:03>> So this is about the
38:05nuance of the public
38:07public service activity applications. We
38:10just got
38:11430,000
38:13so
38:14five awards. Um
38:16which resulted in if everybody got
38:1730,000, we could only fund
38:19[clears throat] six awarded projects.
38:21Keep that in mind. That's something
38:22they're they're eligible or allowed to
38:25ask for more than that.
38:27Um this is the only portion of CDBG
38:29where we require the agencies to
38:31provide a 25% cash match. Um
38:35that's going to make sure they have some
38:37skin in the game and that they're aware
38:39of the kind of
38:40requirements and what's expected here.
38:42So other projects may not require that.
38:45They might provide documentation
38:47leverage, but our public service
38:49activities can be required 25% of the
38:51CDBG award to be a match.
38:55>> So, could you give me an example of
38:57something where
38:58of a
38:59program that you are acting like they
39:01are getting grants?
39:05This is one of the public services.
39:06>> They could. Yes.
39:08Yeah, so I don't know if there's a list
39:10of who who is for. So, this year we have
39:12>> Excellent.
39:14opportunity
39:14>> Yeah, so these are our
39:16service partners this year. Um the
39:19ornamental structures and counseling,
39:22family promise center, emergency
39:23shelter, and child care costs, Joyce
39:26Conflict Conflict Center gets
39:29uh restorative justice diversion program
39:30for youth, various masses are daily um
39:34operations. They get some money for that
39:36and they do some ID and work with credit
39:38and that kind of thing.
39:40And then most of this is in our program.
39:42So, that's how the list
39:43>> Yeah.
39:45Thank you.
39:46We had a couple of questions here.
39:47>> Yeah, I mean when I look at those dollar
39:49amounts,
39:51what can you do for $30,000?
39:54It's It starts to cross to me more like
39:56we're funding these agencies to fund
39:58these agencies
40:00because the dollar amounts are so small
40:02I don't know how it can result in
40:03anything of substance value
40:06in terms of services being delivered.
40:09>> Yeah, but it's one of the reasons why we
40:10require the match in this particular
40:12case for CDBG to show. A lot of
40:15nonprofits are spending it all together
40:17and a lot of funding sources but it's
40:18funding split. I mean, we can
40:20only give out so much. In our case for
40:22example, um you'll notice the majority
40:24of these
40:25Some of these agencies last year also
40:27applied for CDBG funds. And so, it's
40:30just a bunch of little awards um usually
40:33for the same program but
40:36kind of cobble together. Um they're
40:37running on fumes. But that's pretty
40:39typical of the nonprofit operating world
40:41not just here in Athens but across
40:43the country, probably worldwide. I'm
40:45going to I'm going to venture is
40:47But you're right, it's never the needs
40:50are so great in all our communities that
40:52there's just never quite enough funding.
40:55So, they just do what they can and
40:57it's a little drop in the bucket, so to
40:59speak.
41:00>> And you know, that's one of the things
41:01you'll be able to see when you're
41:02reviewing and, you know, looking at the
41:04applications is the budgets that are
41:06provided that will show you, other
41:08categories, funding sources and it may
41:10be for the same program that they get
41:12additional funding that's supposed to go
41:14to them, which is sub-awarded through
41:15the alcohol office and
41:20All right, so for goal three for the con
41:22plan, that's going to be economic
41:23development and workforce development.
41:25And so, the goal there is to promote
41:27upward economic mobility of low and
41:29moderate income Athens-Clarke County
41:30residents through small business
41:32entrepreneurship and work workforce
41:34development.
41:38Did you have anything you want to say
41:38about those activities?
41:39>> No, currently we're funding
41:42micro-enterprise
41:44activities through Goodwill and
41:48What has my brain
41:49left out? Sorry, we're on the
41:50next slide. So, micro-enterprise is one
41:53thing that is eligible under economic
41:55development. There are also activities
41:57that are eligible under there where
41:59they're actually job creation that has a
42:01lot more of a workforce side to it, so
42:02we have not had any applicants apply for
42:04that yet
42:06um since my in my tenure here in the
42:08last four years. So, we'll be interested
42:10to see what comes in this application
42:12cycle,
42:13but
42:14as you can see,
42:15Athens Development Corporation is a
42:18community They have a special
42:20designation as a community-based
42:22development organization, meaning that
42:24they serve
42:25primarily in Inner West Athens, which is
42:26a neighborhood revitalization strategy
42:28area, which is the designation they
42:30have.
42:31Um so, because of that, they are able to
42:33access
42:34um
42:35funding outside the public service cap
42:37that would otherwise be considered a
42:39public service because they have that
42:40special designation. So, their three
42:43activities there are job coaching,
42:44medical services training, and economic
42:46development, which is kind of like
42:48actual tutoring and what I can
42:49understand from the review. Those who
42:51would normally be considered for public
42:53services, but because uh East Athens
42:55Economic Development Corporation is a
42:57CBDO and um they've had a special uh
43:01board of
43:02their board of directors has special um
43:06criteria. They have to be somebody who
43:07has to be low income, somebody has to
43:08have businesses in the
43:10community. They've met all those
43:12criteria, so they are um able to access
43:14this funding, which would normally not
43:16be available or would [clears throat] be
43:18normally not be able to get that. So,
43:20all of the CDBG
43:21or CDBG money can go.
43:26>> Okay. So, goal four is going to be
43:27public facilities and improvements. So,
43:29the goal there is to foster uh public
43:31infrastructure improvements that improve
43:33the lives of low and moderate income
43:34residents in Athens-Clarke County. Uh
43:36so, for these, this is a category where
43:38we haven't received any applications,
43:40correct, for the past couple of years?
43:42>> of years, yeah. We did uh two park
43:44improvements um
43:46uh well, we did a park improvement
43:48probably a couple years ago at Lay Park,
43:50and then um we did get an application
43:53from the Athens Housing Authority for
43:54roof repair, uh which that's eligible.
43:56So, it doesn't necessarily have to be uh
43:59facilities that are owned or operated by
44:00Athens-Clarke County. Nonprofits can own
44:02facilities, but once they do that, they
44:04have to maintain that use
44:07in that way forever, it's in plain. And
44:09then if they ever try to change the use,
44:11that's come back for the public or they
44:12have to give it back. So, um things like
44:15uh community centers, side uh um
44:18homeless shelters, group homes for
44:20senior and disabled adults, things like
44:22that are also eligible activities.
44:25But, the funding usually is so limited.
44:27You can't really do a lot, all right,
44:29because that's CDBG money going out.
44:31There's so many resources
44:34to get a bigger facility
44:36or something.
44:42>> All right.
44:42>> So, now we're going to roll into this
44:44year's Vision Committee roles and
44:46responsibilities, which I know we've
44:47been kind of touching on here. Uh I
44:50won't harp on this too much because I
44:51know we've talked about it somewhat
44:53already, but uh basically kind of moving
44:55forward what we'll need to do is select
44:57new vision committee officers. So, we'll
44:58need to select a chair and a secretary,
45:01complete required BAC training which you
45:04have already done. You all have done.
45:06Review the updated BAC manual. And then
45:09once, hopefully by the time our, as you
45:11can see, February 17th is our next
45:13meeting. Hopefully by the time that
45:15rolls around and the ordinance and
45:17everything will have been approved. If
45:18that's the case, we'll have additional
45:20information for you to review and inform
45:23you of what we need to do there.
45:25But that February 17th, again, I'll
45:27probably say it 10 more times, that like
45:29that is the meeting that we're going to
45:31have this year to talk about all the
45:33ratings and rankings and generally it's
45:35scheduled from 9:00 to 12:00. It will
45:37likely go over from 9:00 to 12:00. It's
45:39a long one, but it's very good
45:41discussion and everyone should want to
45:42give a lot of feedback and thoughts. And
45:44so, we don't want to rush that process
45:46because as you can see, it's an
45:47important
45:49such a big department of what ABC block
45:51grant theory
45:55So, for our FY28 CDBG funding, I'll kick
45:59it over to Mars and she's going to talk
46:01through some different things.
46:06So, the 1.2 million is an estimate.
46:09Obviously, we won't get the award until
46:11probably March or April of next year.
46:14But generally speaking, it's been on the
46:16way and on trend to stay about the same.
46:18It may have gone down a little bit, but
46:20we rarely see
46:22up ticks
46:23in this.
46:25We really
46:26usually get about 30 or more
46:29applications in. So,
46:31this is the big a big undertaking for
46:35you all cuz there's a lot of
46:36applications in the pipeline here.
46:38We do a staff go through and and once
46:41the applications are submitted, we do go
46:42through and if anything isn't eligible,
46:45we inform the applicant immediately.
46:47This activity is not eligible under CDBG
46:49and you won't have to look at those or
46:50waste your time.
46:52Um
46:53Um let's see. We get the
46:56most applications are usually for public
46:59service activities
47:01because that's just the nature of that.
47:03As you know, we have a lot of non-profit
47:04partners that want to help the community
47:06and so we get a lot of applications
47:07then.
47:08Sometimes they ask for more money than
47:10is even allowed. Like, you know, we'll
47:12get a $150,000 request and only have an
47:14$80,000 cap. So, it's it's finding that
47:17balance between the priorities of the
47:19agency, what what the best use of the
47:21money is and that's part of what you
47:22will be helping decide.
47:24The grant year for CDBG funding runs
47:28from July through
47:36And
47:37so it's one year. So, the funding that
47:39the funding that you are deciding on now
47:41will be actually available when it
47:42applies to on next July.
47:45And let's see.
47:46For us
47:48This is incorrect. It's not 100.
47:52It's It's okay. It's 110. So, there's
47:54150 possible points. There's a breakdown
47:56from this slide later on that I'll show
47:57you. For the CDBG funding scoring,
48:00there's 150 points possible.
48:03So, the citizen committee is responsible
48:05for 40 of those points. And it goes to
48:08community impact review and priority
48:11funding how you think it needs to be
48:12done. So, you will be working that way
48:14and that helps the application process.
48:16And let's see.
48:19You'll be getting access to these in the
48:21June Excuse me.
48:23In December on December 14th. So, by
48:25then you will have all the resources
48:27that you need to be able to review these
48:29appropriately.
48:32So, it's
48:33You can take a picture of this.
48:35>> Yeah, and you'll see you'll have about 6
48:38weeks right between December 14th and
48:40January 29th. That's going to be your
48:44review period. We know the holidays fall
48:46right over it. These are a lot of
48:48applications. It's not just CDBG, it's
48:51also CPN and Down's Lake. So, I think
48:53our budget committee found that it's
48:54good enough to review and please don't
48:57wait till the last minute. It's a lot
48:58cuz you will not be done. So, as soon as
49:00those of these go out on the 14th for
49:02you, start working on them.
49:05We'll get more into the nitty-gritty of
49:06it, but
49:08it's a lot. Don't think it's a lot of
49:09time. It looks like a lot of time, but
49:11it's not. And then we come back together
49:13on the 17th to then discuss your scores.
49:21>> Okay, here's Here's the the slide that's
49:22coming later. I mean, so the HTP staff
49:26will review these uh components of the
49:28application. You'll be able to see all
49:30the responses in these attachments. So,
49:31it's not like you're only going to see
49:32the responses that apply to your
49:35scoring. You can see you're going to be
49:36able to review the entire application.
49:38Um so, you get a feel for what they're
49:39actually asking for. And then um the
49:41visiting committee will There's a
49:43specific section within the grants that
49:45talks about community impact and
49:47relationships with your other partners,
49:48and
49:50that's where you're going to have that
49:51um
49:52input that's needed to see what the
49:55vision worksheet and what the community
49:56really is looking for. And then you'll
49:58be able to assign points as for priority
50:01there. And it says that there's a
50:04priority guide as a reference. You'll be
50:06getting that um
50:07when the information for the mini grants
50:09comes out to help you guys with the um
50:11scoring there.
50:12>> That's all at the bottom. That's an
50:14oversight on my part, so apologies. It
50:15should be total FY2018 CDPG application
50:18points, not 6. I'll fix that before I
50:19send it out to you all.
50:21>> And what is the total? Oh, right here.
50:23>> Hi. Pathway to Literacy.
50:25Sorry, I was in line. One thing to to
50:27note, please make sure last year we did
50:30have some visiting committee members
50:32that accidentally completed the staff
50:34portion of the committee review.
50:36Um so, we had to go over and review uh
50:38some accounting for action. Please make
50:40sure that for CDPGs specifically and for
50:43having nothing that you fully reviewed
50:46the two criteria that you're responsible
50:48for. Don't do more work
50:51than you have to do. Like, we'll we'll
50:53indicate that for you when you're doing
50:55this. Yes, ma'am.
50:56>> Why does the committee only
50:59get to look at uh points worth of uh
51:03the value of these proposals.
51:05>> Because that's the way I think it's
51:06because the CDBG
51:09applications are usually so technical as
51:12far as regulatory requirements and past
51:14performance. You'll be able to see that,
51:16but we didn't It's not
51:19fair to put that kind of
51:21um responsibility on the vision
51:23committees. The vision committee is
51:24designed to help inform community desire
51:27and impact and and establish priorities
51:29that are going to be recommended to the
51:32um mayor and commission. So, that's how
51:33those That's
51:34>> So, this is not a statutory requirement.
51:37This is a
51:37>> No, federal government only presents
51:40that we get community input
51:43for community input portions of the
51:47application. Under no circumstances are
51:50we required to have community input on
51:54those under the uh 100,000 or more.
51:57We actually go above and beyond having a
52:00vision committee that is you that gets
52:0340-point input
52:05for the actual community portion that
52:08gives preference to the requirement.
52:11>> And I believe you had to had to step out
52:12for a second earlier, and there was a
52:13few slides about the uh conference
52:16center that we got into some of like all
52:18the really technical nuance. And so,
52:20once you get once you're able to see
52:21those slides, it's it's very like
52:23there's so much technical nuance to the
52:25stadium information and scoring criteria
52:27that if you go to it that, you know,
52:29just to kind of give you some
52:30>> And you don't you you you don't have the
52:32information that is required to be able
52:34to account for those criteria that the
52:36staff already
52:39We have the
52:40experience, the training, and the
52:42knowledge. We also have the background
52:44and the history of dealing with agencies
52:46on the performance level annually that
52:49you don't have. And then we would not be
52:51able to provide you
52:52in this environment that you need to
52:54write write this.
52:54>> And this has been a topic of discussion
52:56with the mayor and commission. So, this
52:58is how this has been discussed with you
53:00here. So, it's not a new way of writing.
53:03>> And I'll say like a 40 out of 150 may
53:06not seem like much, but we've seen
53:08applications like even that, you know,
53:10staff feel pretty strongly about. We've
53:12seen those scores drop significantly in
53:14some cases because of what the vision
53:16committee feels.
53:18You know, 40 points, so it it does play
53:21a big role in it, even if it only looks
53:23like it's 40 points.
53:25I mean, that's where it's And that makes
53:27a substantial difference.
53:29>> Mhm.
53:31>> All right.
53:32I think that's it for CDBG.
53:34>> Okay.
53:36>> Please welcome and talk a little more
53:37about housing and community development.
53:39So, like I mentioned before, there's
53:41$100,000 that have been made available
53:43for housing counseling activities. And
53:46so,
53:47really what this involves is having an
53:50agency who has a housing counselor who
53:53has passed the HUD housing counseling
53:55certification exam or will pass it by
53:58the time FY '28 starts. Um
54:02and these housing counselors will work
54:05one-on-one or in groups of, you know,
54:08low-income Lackawanna County residents
54:10to provide homeownership education,
54:13foreclosure prevention, financial
54:15literacy, credit repair, education
54:17around affordable housing,
54:19sustainability. So, really just working
54:21with people so that they have the
54:23information and knowledge and and know
54:25about the services that will um
54:28hopefully help them to be in a better
54:29position with their housing planning
54:31more safe and secure and stable housing.
54:35Um similarly, so the schedule is the
54:38same. You'll be rating these alongside
54:40the other applications. And similarly to
54:43the CDBG, you only have a portion of
54:48the score that you'll be responsible
54:50for. So, you'll see the whole
54:53um
54:53application.
54:56And you'll be able to read through it. I
54:59would suggest reading it it through to
55:01just have a good sense of what the
55:02specific program is. But in terms of
55:05your rating, you will just rate the
55:07community impact assessment for 10
55:10points.
55:11Um
55:12and so, you know, 10% of this score will
55:15be based on how you see this program
55:18having a broader impact on the
55:21community.
55:26That's it.
55:27So, now we've gotten to our final
55:29community partnerships program, the one
55:31that you have 100% control over deciding
55:34what you want to rate, score,
55:36prioritize. And so,
55:38um
55:39again, you can see this timeline over
55:41here, that is going to be the same for
55:42all of them, which is nice, keeps it
55:44easy for you. You just have a few
55:45separate dates to remember, and they'll
55:47be the same for each one. And in years
55:49past, they've been a little different
55:50sometimes, and so, this makes it easy
55:52for you.
55:53Um
55:53and so, there's, you know, a million
55:55dollars available for local community
55:58you know, funds for the community
55:59partnerships program. Um and again,
56:01those categories are community service,
56:03which includes neighborhood
56:05revitalization, poverty reduction, and
56:07economic strength, and intervention and
56:09prevention activities, and then also
56:11homeless continuum of care service
56:13activities. So, homeless continuum of
56:15care service activities is going to be
56:16case management, things of that sort, uh
56:18or individuals experiencing
56:20homelessness, families experiencing
56:21homelessness. Some requirements for the
56:23agencies there would be, you know, they
56:25participate in annual point-in-time
56:26count, they're a member of our, you
56:29know, homeless coalition in the
56:30community, and are involved in the
56:32connected group of services that are
56:34also delivering assistance.
56:36Um
56:37our FY28 grant year is also same dates,
56:41going to run from July 1st, 2027 through
56:43June 30th, 2028.
56:45Uh applications for this program were
56:47released at the same time, and the
56:49applications will be due on the 20th,
56:51and then you are responsible for scoring
56:54uh up to 100 points
56:56uh of these applications. Again, we
56:58review them for eligibility, and then
57:01you all will rate and score them. So,
57:03we're not going to waste your time
57:04sending you any that you have to kind of
57:06look through for eligibility purposes,
57:08or spend time on that. Anything that
57:10comes across your desk, so to speak,
57:11will be an eligible application for
57:13review.
57:16And these are going to be your rating
57:18criteria as well. You get a more kind of
57:20specific scoring matrix, but rating
57:23criteria is financial ability is going
57:26to be 30 points. So, that's considering
57:28things like cost per program
57:30participant, diverse funding sources,
57:32use of the budget,
57:34things like that.
57:35Community involvement and collaboration
57:37is going to be 15 points. And so, this
57:39is documented community collaborations
57:41and our community impact assessment. So,
57:44one thing to kind of keep in mind for
57:45the year returning,
57:48in years past, the community impact
57:50assessment has been an attachment where
57:53you've, you know, agencies have
57:54completed that and then you've reviewed
57:56that in addition. This year, to
57:57hopefully make everyone a fly a little
58:00more simple with agencies doing
58:01applications and you all doing reviews
58:03in the process, that's actually been
58:05baked into the application here. So,
58:06it's still very clear and obvious what
58:08questions are related to community
58:10impact, but we basically took some of
58:12those previous community impact
58:14questions, some of our other application
58:16questions, and kind of rolled it all up
58:18into one section
58:19to make that easier for you.
58:21So, and then outcomes and performance,
58:23that's going to be 45 points. And so,
58:25that's, you know, looking at things in
58:27that modeling section, benefit of the
58:30program, abilities to strategic, excuse
58:32me, to achieve strategic plan goals. So,
58:35that's obviously a really big section.
58:37And then organization and staff ability
58:40is 10 points. And so, that's operations
58:42capacity, program experience, things of
58:44that sort.
58:50Okay.
58:52Here's the what's next. Any, before we
58:54jump into this, this kind of calendar of
58:56dates, I think this is our, hopefully,
58:58next to last slide. Are there any
58:59questions about scoring, ranking, things
59:02of that sort before we
59:04move forward into kind of the next
59:05portion of the meeting?
59:08You might ask yourself, Marcy Hayes, do
59:10you have any questions?
59:13Perfect.
59:14>> Did we mention the
59:15>> something about everything you do is on
59:17the record?
59:18>> Yes.
59:18>> So, if you don't want it to be on the
59:20record, make sure we get that. So,
59:22be nice in your comments.
59:24>> We got
59:25And again, like I said earlier, any
59:26comments you leave are still
59:28confidential to your name, so you won't
59:30be tied. If I tell an agency, "So-and-so
59:33had to say this about your application."
59:34your name won't be mentioned, but still
59:35your statement. Try to keep it to
59:37helpful feedback, as we're going to say.
59:39>> Unless it's requested as an open record.
59:42So, if you have a 21 certain district
59:43request for feedback, the one that they
59:45would probably extend this.
59:46>> Yes.
59:47>> If that's an open records request, we
59:48have to read it.
59:49>> Sorry. Yes, thank you for the
59:50clarification.
59:53All right. So, the ongoing, obviously,
59:55like I said earlier, you're going to be
59:56wanting to check your email at ACCG.net.
59:58Keep an eye on that. If you want to set
1:00:00it up to get forwarded to your personal
1:00:01email, however you need to do it to make
1:00:03sure that you don't miss anything, just
1:00:05please keep an eye on that. Keep all
1:00:06communications with our department
1:00:09through that email address. And so,
1:00:11we're going to be sending you stuff out,
1:00:13so be on the lookout for the beginning
1:00:15of that Zoom Grants training video, any
1:00:17updates on BAC ordinances.
1:00:19I'll probably send out some follow-up
1:00:21materials for today, like these slides,
1:00:23consolidated plans, strategic plan, all
1:00:25that stuff for you for review.
1:00:28December 14th, as we've touched on a
1:00:30couple of times, is going to be when
1:00:32applications are going to you for
1:00:34review. January 29th, so that
1:00:36application that application review
1:00:38period is done. All things have to
1:00:40begin. Again, please don't wait until
1:00:42the last minute. I'll say this year
1:00:45is the most applications we've ever got
1:00:46or sorry, we've got we require folks to
1:00:49do what's called a notice of intent,
1:00:50which is required. It's essentially
1:00:51you're putting in something saying that
1:00:52you want to do an application.
1:00:55And this is the most that we've ever
1:00:56gotten. So, if everyone applies,
1:00:58you're going to be busy. So, get started
1:01:00on this as soon as possible.
1:01:02And then that February 17th meeting
1:01:04where we review and score these
1:01:05applications is going to be from 9:00 to
1:01:0712:00. That'll also be
1:01:09here at the courthouse building. Might
1:01:11be in the first floor conference room.
1:01:13Might also be up here. Just kind of
1:01:15once it is available.
1:01:16Uh and then just so you can see looking
1:01:18forward once those recommendations are
1:01:19made, uh the Mayor and Commission work
1:01:21session to present those, which HPD
1:01:23staff takes care of on your behalf, but
1:01:26that's going to be on April 13th. April
1:01:2920th is the Mayor and Commission agenda
1:01:31setting session, and then May 4th is the
1:01:33voting session where you will then,
1:01:34you know, vote yes or no on the
1:01:36recommendations that we've been putting
1:01:38together in the staff work. So, uh
1:01:41once that happens, then we start to talk
1:01:43about the consolidation season to kind
1:01:44of get the ball rolling on doing the
1:01:45actual work that you've been
1:01:48working on making for the school. So,
1:01:50any questions about what's upcoming?
1:01:54Perfect.
1:01:55Well, thank you all. Uh as I mentioned
1:01:57earlier, but myself and Alejandra, our
1:02:00assistant director, are your HPD staff
1:02:02liaisons. So, that's our contact
1:02:04information. If you do need anything,
1:02:06please don't hesitate to give us a call
1:02:07or send an email. We'd love to hear from
1:02:09y'all. We'd love to chat with you.
1:02:11Um
1:02:12and so that concludes the presentation
1:02:13portion.
1:02:14And I know we jumped around a little bit
1:02:16with some things that we've already
1:02:18discussed, item D, and then all the
1:02:20other items under C. So, which that
1:02:22brings us to D, selection of officers.
1:02:25So, want to welcome Allison Hollis, who
1:02:28is our a returning committee member and
1:02:30also our vice chair. So, you're good,
1:02:33and then I'll hand it over to you for
1:02:34the discussion about selecting our new
1:02:36secretary and chair.
1:02:38And rest of that part.
1:02:41>> Good morning. I'm Allison Hollis.
1:02:42Uh I
1:02:44apologize for being late.
1:02:46Because I did not forward my email, uh
1:02:49it's in my personal, I missed all of
1:02:52that and got forwarded to my personal
1:02:53email. So, just
1:02:55as a friendly reminder, if you need to
1:02:57contact both of us, check that email
1:02:58frequently or it's not forwarded. Um
1:03:01I am currently the vice chair of this.
1:03:03Uh I am happy to allow people to take
1:03:06that mantle if they would like to for
1:03:09the next year. Uh so, we have chair,
1:03:12vice chair, and secretary for the three
1:03:14roles of this committee.
1:03:17Um this committee, I think maybe this
1:03:19was discussed, came to be an official
1:03:21PAC last year.
1:03:23So, now we have to have official people
1:03:26in charge of this
1:03:27and that is serving us.
1:03:29The chair is in charge of making sure we
1:03:32run meetings without well being seen
1:03:35on the matters of the school's
1:03:37order for meetings. Vice chair, as you
1:03:40can see right now, is essentially a
1:03:42backup for said chair and just making
1:03:44sure that the students are being
1:03:46facilitated and then the secretary who
1:03:48will be in charge of taking meeting
1:03:49notes. Because we have our meetings so
1:03:51often,
1:03:52those meeting notes if we can are
1:03:55usually reviewed at the end as we will
1:03:57do today just for the sake of
1:03:59efficiency. We know we're all
1:04:01volunteers. We want to make sure that
1:04:02everybody has the time
1:04:05to do all of this work and not end up
1:04:07being overburdened with extra asks. So,
1:04:10all of that to say, do any of you have
1:04:13any questions about PAC's roles with our
1:04:16PAC?
1:04:20Uh
1:04:22You have How many of us are here? Three?
1:04:24Four?
1:04:25Yeah, that's
1:04:26eight.
1:04:28I lost count. You got three of us here.
1:04:30Okay. That's fine. Are there other
1:04:32people here?
1:04:33Uh
1:04:38She said
1:04:42That's all.
1:04:43Uh
1:04:45Is anybody willing to step in the role
1:04:48of chair?
1:04:50It would be asked of you that you for
1:04:52all of this year be at all of our
1:04:54meetings which is not a lot in the grand
1:04:56scheme of things
1:04:57and that you make sure that they run
1:05:01That's it and only for the year
1:05:03committee. We're not asking you to
1:05:04commit to the next
1:05:06cycle of this committee.
1:05:17>> You know, someone will come up with
1:05:18something.
1:05:18>> Oh,
1:05:20sir, I apologize. I do not know your
1:05:21name.
1:05:22What is your name?
1:05:23>> Michael McClean.
1:05:28>> Okay.
1:05:28>> And I'll be looking for somebody that I
1:05:30can challenge for this office.
1:05:34>> Mr. McClean has offered himself as a
1:05:36potential chair. Is there anybody else
1:05:38who wants to throw their name in the
1:05:39hat?
1:05:40>> Yes, I would like to.
1:05:41>> Can you just give a little bit more
1:05:43insight as to like what more
1:05:45specifically I guess?
1:05:46>> Yeah.
1:05:47>> Like I mean like like what you
1:05:48>> Sure.
1:05:50Uh so, if I was seeing as she had uh our
1:05:53chair,
1:05:54um
1:05:55I believe this will all work
1:05:58see what we're going to do with this
1:05:59long hair.
1:06:01What you see during this is exactly what
1:06:02I'm doing.
1:06:04Call to order a meeting. Call to order.
1:06:06Uh ask for votes on a meeting minutes.
1:06:09Um
1:06:10and ask for votes on decisions. So, when
1:06:13we are in specifically when it comes to
1:06:16CPT, um the city meeting funding we were
1:06:19effectively offered some insights those
1:06:22those opportunities lead up where we
1:06:24need to vote on which else we can just
1:06:25have a discussion. Um the city media is
1:06:28our role to do that and I believe the
1:06:31chair is in charge of
1:06:32can we get votes on moving this forward?
1:06:35Um so, it's just being the overseer of
1:06:38all of it and make sure that one, we're
1:06:40moving it along and two, that when
1:06:42people are ready to make votes on um
1:06:45decisions of the ranking of those
1:06:47dollars that are being rolled out, that
1:06:49they are the ones who's um
1:06:51physically taking that.
1:06:53>> All right, so you
1:06:53>> Does that make sense?
1:06:54>> Yes, you're it's like a meeting.
1:06:56>> Yes. And if we need I will say we need
1:06:58to lean very heavily on Corey and
1:07:00Alejandra and everybody else in the TV
1:07:02project team. So, if there's ever
1:07:04anything video or hey, no idea what I'm
1:07:06doing, you can ask them.
1:07:08>> Okay.
1:07:09>> I'm from Poland.
1:07:10>> That's a great story.
1:07:12>> You want to
1:07:12>> You can ask to nominate him for vice
1:07:14chair.
1:07:15>> I'd like to nominate him for vice
1:07:17chair.
1:07:17>> What is your name again, sir?
1:07:18>> Roman.
1:07:20>> What's your last name?
1:07:20>> Pomcyk. P O M C Y K.
1:07:25>> Okay.
1:07:26>> thank you.
1:07:27Okay, so we have two people up for
1:07:28running potential officers. Does anybody
1:07:30else want to throw their name in the hat
1:07:32for chair, vice chair, or
1:07:34secretary? It's the note-taker.
1:07:37Um I am comfortable if the group can
1:07:39decide and enjoy by reporting and then
1:07:43have it translate notes. You can take
1:07:45notes. The notes don't have to be super
1:07:47extensive, but specifically for our
1:07:50meeting with
1:07:52um in the future for meetings if you do
1:07:54have to record what our decisions are.
1:07:57Um I've had a couple of conversations
1:07:58with
1:07:59them. So, if you're willing to be
1:08:01said note-taker,
1:08:03um
1:08:05is that
1:08:18>> Excuse me, what
1:08:19>> the strategic
1:08:20>> Do you want to be
1:08:23chair or
1:08:24Do you want to
1:08:25Yeah.
1:08:27We got to take a note.
1:08:28So, what are the house
1:08:33the most here?
1:08:35They have at least two
1:08:36chair purposes.
1:08:41So,
1:08:43I mean
1:08:44kind of shut
1:08:50I'm holding that for the specific roles
1:08:52for the note-taker.
1:08:54Um
1:08:55I think chair is
1:08:57I think it's nice. Okay, maybe chair.
1:09:00Okay. Who did the last time? Uh no, I
1:09:03was the chair. I was the vice chair. I
1:09:05think the secretary
1:09:06Thank you, Sally. Thank you. I'm going
1:09:08to pick you, Lauren.
1:09:11I'm up.
1:09:12>> Is there a
1:09:14big spot for somebody to be the chair?
1:09:17I think
1:09:18I think I've asked for it before.
1:09:21Just
1:09:22I think somebody finding it is wise.
1:09:25Mhm. Has it been a situation where you
1:09:28know, somebody's had to leave the
1:09:31the maybe or the division committee and
1:09:33had been able to fulfill their
1:09:36responsibilities?
1:09:37>> As a As a
1:09:38>> As a member of the division
1:09:39>> As a member or as a
1:09:41>> As a officer.
1:09:42>> Officer. As of yet, no. Mostly as people
1:09:45only get officers when they
1:09:49We were
1:09:50not officially and like we we never
1:09:54uh but because we didn't have somebody
1:09:56to be it was a little bit of a different
1:09:57role. Uh so things are a little last
1:09:59year to be and that happened.
1:10:00>> I mean I'm I'm willing to serve but I
1:10:02found out that I was not a member of the
1:10:04board because I
1:10:05like actually that was kind of a
1:10:06problem.
1:10:08>> Sure.
1:10:10>> Being
1:10:11officer or a member of the board is one
1:10:12I understand now.
1:10:14>> Sure.
1:10:16>> And Alice, you gave great summaries but
1:10:17if it's helpful in any way I can read
1:10:19Article 3 from our bylaws that has the
1:10:22descriptions for the It's very quickly
1:10:23just for all of you.
1:10:25Uh the chair will be the chief
1:10:26administrative officer of the division
1:10:28committee, preside or you know, is
1:10:30responsible for general supervision of
1:10:32the policies and activities of the
1:10:33division committee, preside over all
1:10:35division committee meetings, and conduct
1:10:37all meetings in accordance to Robert's
1:10:38Rules of Order, uh
1:10:40and have authority to determine the need
1:10:42to call for roll call vote when a voice
1:10:44vote is not inclusive. So that you don't
1:10:46have to you know
1:10:47Alice described kind of the
1:10:49running meeting and make sure everything
1:10:50is done neatly. The vice chair should
1:10:52perform such duties that are generally
1:10:54performed by the vice chair and in the
1:10:56event of vacancy of the chair or their
1:10:58request, direction of the division
1:10:59committee, they'll have the authority to
1:11:01perform the same duties as the chair or
1:11:02secretary.
1:11:03And then the secretary should keep the
1:11:05minutes of the division committee, have
1:11:06charge of the minute records, and be
1:11:08responsible for all correspondence of
1:11:10the division committee, authenticating
1:11:11any documents, records, anything like
1:11:13that. So the secretary shall cause
1:11:15copies of the minutes, records, and
1:11:17correspondence to be deposited with the
1:11:18clerk.
1:11:25>> Where should you be chair and vice
1:11:27chair, would any of you be willing to be
1:11:30secretary if you are not voted into our
1:11:32executive board?
1:11:34Six.
1:11:35If not, is there someone else who is
1:11:37willing to be a secretary? Again, I
1:11:40don't care if he uses AI and have a
1:11:42report and it takes a month and a half
1:11:44to do the ACC guidelines and student
1:11:46handbook, but if you want to do it, I
1:11:47can honestly do this.
1:11:49>> As long as the notes are accurate and
1:11:51they get voted in, I don't think it
1:11:53matters if you
1:11:56>> Just for the record, they get recorded
1:11:58correctly, voted on, and posted in the
1:12:00proper channels, so we will go over the
1:12:02next steps.
1:12:14>> We want to make it clear that we vote to
1:12:16discuss a vote for chair and then
1:12:22Seven is enough. [laughter]
1:12:24Excuse me, I have a question. Does this
1:12:25count as a vote for
1:12:25>> As long as it's a valid vote.
1:12:29>> Excuse me, can we talk about the
1:12:31executive
1:12:34I'll explain that.
1:12:35Thank you.
1:12:38Now, we only need billing once a year,
1:12:39so
1:12:40you may or may not be able to do the
1:12:42same thing.
1:12:43>> [laughter]
1:12:43>> All right, so we have Michael, Brian,
1:12:45and Rebecca Love all in the running for
1:12:48these two roles.
1:12:50I would say for
1:12:53Michael, would people like to vote We
1:12:55can do this anonymously if you would
1:12:57like. You can
1:12:58write down your ranking and then hand it
1:13:00to me, but that may be more helpful.
1:13:06>> Yeah, go for it, Michael.
1:13:07>> the motion to vote for Rebecca Love as
1:13:09chair. Vote for
1:13:10>> Yes.
1:13:13>> Uh I second.
1:13:14Yes.
1:13:18>> Yes.
1:13:19>> How
1:13:20do you feel about it? Vote in favor, say
1:13:23I.
1:13:24>> I abstain.
1:13:25>> Any nays?
1:13:27All right.
1:13:28Vote for your vice chair.
1:13:31Uh we have Brian and Michael as vice
1:13:33motion for a vice chair?
1:13:37>> I could be the vice chair first year.
1:13:43>> I'm happy to volunteer for the board.
1:14:05>> Motion to leave it to the Ryan and
1:14:06motion to leave it to Mike.
1:14:09>> I second.
1:14:13>> All those in favor say aye.
1:14:15>> Aye.
1:14:16>> Any opposed say nay.
1:14:19All right,
1:14:20you're our vice chair.
1:14:22>> Congratulations.
1:14:23>> Mike, did you have any interest in being
1:14:25secretary?
1:14:25>> No.
1:14:26>> Okay.
1:14:28We We really appreciate your willingness
1:14:30to make that
1:14:31clear. So, thank you.
1:14:33We as a state made you a very active
1:14:36member if you were only willing to step
1:14:37up. So,
1:14:39knowing that that being the case, your
1:14:40chances of you being a strong
1:14:43secretary
1:14:44We still have this.
1:14:48You can make a recommendation for other
1:14:50people. You don't have to nominate
1:14:51yourself if you have a suggestion.
1:14:58>> I nominate Chris for the last two years.
1:15:13>> Matt has been handling secretary duties
1:15:14for the past She's been passing the
1:15:16mantle.
1:15:24Are you willing to accept that
1:15:26nomination?
1:15:27>> I am.
1:15:27>> I second.
1:15:33All right.
1:15:34Do I have a
1:15:35I have a second?
1:15:36I have a motion
1:15:39for that. All right.
1:15:41All right, second.
1:15:45All those in favor say
1:15:47>> I do.
1:15:48>> All those opposed?
1:15:51All right, we have our three officers.
1:15:53Thank you guys so much.
1:16:01>> [laughter]
1:16:02>> Uh
1:16:04So, now
1:16:06um our next meeting is in February, but
1:16:07we do have notes from today.
1:16:11Um we can send those along with put them
1:16:13up there and have everybody read through
1:16:15them and then we can vote on them. Uh I
1:16:17will relinquish my responsibility now
1:16:19and have this as you because you have
1:16:21been voted in.
1:16:26>> Um Corey, my Wi-Fi decided to connect
1:16:28after we left, so I can do that.
1:16:31>> Perfect.
1:16:31>> Well, you seems me.
1:16:33>> Yes.
1:16:35>> So, you're in that situation.
1:16:40>> I was going to say that we could read
1:16:41them aloud if we needed to, but I think
1:16:42that's great that you're doing that.
1:16:47>> Mark, you're the last house, right?
1:16:49>> Yes.
1:16:51Now, I did you remember I you were the
1:16:53one who did it.
1:16:55Yes, I did.
1:16:56So, that's where it gets
1:17:15Also, are you going to take this down or
1:17:18I just like this.
1:17:24We're so close. Come on.
1:17:27Uh
1:17:28we'll make it through the year.
1:17:33Sweet.
1:17:42You guys see it better?
1:17:51I'm going to go as fast as I can without
1:17:53offending
1:17:54>> All is good.
1:18:02>> Yeah.
1:18:03Scroll up.
1:18:04I mean the whole meeting time.
1:18:06Yeah, I did.
1:18:07It would be one of the things that I
1:18:08would have to do right now. Yeah, it's
1:18:10like two minutes. So, that's why
1:18:14Let me know if I'm scrolling too
1:18:16quickly.
1:18:39Let me know when you're
1:19:16>> Motion approved in the October 28th
1:19:19minutes.
1:19:19>> Yeah,
1:19:20that makes sense.
1:19:28I watched the last meeting.
1:19:30Yeah, it was fun. What was that last one
1:19:32you said?
1:19:36Uh
1:19:38Oh, that's good.
1:19:38>> Oh, that's good.
1:19:40>> I'm good to go to the next one.
1:19:44Almost.
1:19:54All right.
1:19:5910.9. Great match, guys. We'll see you
1:20:02all February 13th.
1:20:04Here at the possibility of ice.
1:20:07Oh yes, the greatest guy around.
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