2026-09-02 - Arena District Steering Committee

00:10and the board authority.

00:12>> Bruce Lonnie, Athensclar County Planning

00:14Director,

00:15>> Trust Small, Also, Trust Center

00:16Authority.

00:17>> Uh, David Bradley with Athens Downtown

00:20Authority.

00:20>> Jason Leonard, Athens Downtown

00:22Development Authority.

00:23>> Als County Commissioner District 4.

00:26>> Uh, John Co Pepper, County Commissioner,

00:28District 7. I have Kevin Kelly,

00:30consultant advising companies.

00:37>> Trey Weatherly at Centure.

00:39>> Sydney Oorio, admin assistant.

00:41>> Bill McConnell, interim assistant

00:43manager.

00:44>> And there are no second class citizens,

00:45but there are those who prefer to sit

00:47against the wall. Jamie Child about

00:49class center

00:54with classific.

01:08>> All right, I've got a motion from Jan,

01:11second from Allison. All in favor,

01:12please say I.

01:14>> Any oppose? Hearing none, motion

01:16carries. Uh in your packet you have

01:18minutes from our last meeting from

01:20Friday, June 17th. May I hear a motion

01:22for approval of those minutes?

01:24>> So moved.

01:25>> Second.

01:26>> All right. Got a motion from Jen to give

01:28the second to David. All in favor,

01:29please say I.

01:31>> Any oppose?

01:32>> All right. Uh next order is uh review of

01:36classic center authority 2026 bond

01:39payment pro form. So uh that's

01:43>> that is you. So, we are going to fire up

01:46the screen and take a look at some

01:48numbers that just happen.

01:49>> Yeah, you'll see. Yeah, last three

01:50pages.

01:51>> Um, apologies for the size of the font.

01:53It's hard to get a lot of data on small

01:55pieces of paper, but to go through these

01:57last three pages, the uh the first two

01:59pages of those give us the actual

02:02details of our actual FY25 financials,

02:05actual FY26. The audit is still in

02:07progress. So these are not final final

02:09audited numbers but they are

02:12FY26 year to date actuals. There are

02:14none yet. This is

02:17and then you've got FY27 remaining for

02:19this year. This is our budget that we

02:21submit to the county. Then FY28 29 and

02:2430. Those are all generally based on

02:26just a 2% annual estimate. So very very

02:29simple proform of projection over the

02:32next seven years. So this gives us on

02:34the next page our bottom line net

02:37anticipated u net net income. Then we

02:40have some cash adjustments but this

02:41gives us our anticipated cash coming in

02:44from all of our operations for the next

02:46couple years. The last page is the one

02:49that's most probably most useful um the

02:52discussion of paying specifically. So,

02:55what we've got here, we've adapted the u

02:57we've updated the the format this

03:01summary a little bit to be a little more

03:02clear. What we're essentially looking at

03:04is we're looking at an annual cash

03:06balance in all of the bond payment

03:10account. So, we've got a bond debt

03:11service account and then we have the $2

03:13million bond debt uh debt reserve

03:16account. So, up here in the top section,

03:18we've got our annual balances. So, this

03:20is the beginning balance as of FY27. got

03:23a million dollars in bond payment

03:24accounts and then another $2 million in

03:27the US fund. So as of July 1st, 2026, we

03:31have a little over $3 million in demand.

03:34The next section is we've we've adjusted

03:37to show our current our revenue sources

03:38of how we're planning to pay back the

03:40bonds. So when we originally took out

03:41the bonds, we gave buckets, revenue

03:45buckets we

03:47planned on saving or using from each of

03:50those buckets to pay back the bonds. So,

03:52we put it into that format. So, we've

03:54got hotel tax, the naming rights for the

03:56arena. We've got pretty seating and

03:58sponsorship money coming in. Um, we've

04:01got ticket fees portion of our catering.

04:04We have received an increase in our

04:05catering uh percentage with the arena

04:08opening. Um, additional money from

04:11parking and general net income. Then the

04:13estimated cash that we would receive

04:15from the development. So this column

04:17gives us the estimated amounts that we

04:18are planning on putting in from the net

04:20cash that we have in the top section. So

04:24for the rest of FY27, we've got $4.2

04:26million that we're planning on putting

04:28in and that is that matches up with the

04:31number the total cash. There's enough

04:32cash in the top section to cover that.

04:36Um and then the next section is the

04:37actual bond payments. We have our

04:38November bond payment of 2.3 million

04:40which we have the cash to pay right now.

04:42We're ready to pay that one. And then

04:44the May bond payment of 4.1. The

04:46November bond payment is only interest.

04:48The May bond payment is principal and

04:50interest. That's why it's the higher

04:51amount. So we're working diligently to

04:53save for that May bond payment. Um so

04:56that $6.5 million of total bond payments

04:58that we're planning on paying out this

05:00year. Um and then what that leaves in

05:02the the bank balances is we have the 3

05:05million at the top. We've added 4.2 and

05:08then we've taken out 6.5 million. So it

05:10gives us a balance of about 750,000 left

05:12in those two accounts. So this year we

05:15are planning on dipping into the reserve

05:17somewhat hoping not to have to dip into

05:19the reserve but conservatively we're

05:22we're just anticipating that we're going

05:23to need to use a little bit of that.

05:25Next section FY28 that's 757,000 now

05:28becomes the new opening balance in those

05:31bond accounts. Then we have 5.1 million

05:33that we're planning on putting in, 6.5

05:35million that we're planning on kicking

05:36out for the bond payments, which takes

05:38us into that deficit. I'd like to point

05:40out the deficit used to be 1.2 million.

05:42Now the deficit is only 600,000 650,000.

05:45So we're making progress. We're getting

05:47more information as we get further into

05:50the operations of the arena. Things are

05:51going better than we had anticipated.

05:54Um, and I am a bit of a pessimist. I

05:57would rather come in a little bit. I'd

05:58rather be a little pessimistic and come

06:00in better than

06:02and have a surprise at the end. So then

06:05the next couple years we gradually

06:07whittle away at that shortage so we can

06:09get keep the cash from the development

06:11going. You've got 29 got about 1.7

06:14million that we're estimating for the

06:15development that starts building back

06:18that deficit and starts building back

06:20over the next few years. So the goal

06:21would be to build back $2 million every

06:24single as we're making the tickets and

06:26then move forward

06:29millions back.

06:33Then there's some notes down the bottom.

06:35Big caveat that this projection we

06:37cannot anticipate future economic

06:39downturns etc etc etc. Any questions?

06:44>> Alison.

06:45>> Yeah on I think it was the first page in

06:46red it says bought it in progress. Can

06:48you tell me who does that and how often?

06:50So that's a we're with accountants who

06:52audit. So we have the same parts. They

06:53come and audit us as well.

06:57So it's

06:58>> I know who.

06:59>> Yeah.

07:00>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So it's

07:01within our cycle and

07:04>> they're going to come in in October and

07:06look at all of our stuff

07:07>> and that's the typical

07:08>> Yeah.

07:09>> Thanks,

07:11>> John.

07:12>> What's the big difference in the

07:14expenses in 25 over 26?

07:17>> 25 over 26.

07:19>> Yeah. question here.

07:33>> Uh looking through that though, probably

07:35the big part is interest income.

07:37>> Yeah.

07:38>> Um there's a lot more interest expense.

07:39We had capitalized the interest. We were

07:41still capitalizing the interest in FY25.

07:44Then the interest came fully arms in

07:45FY26 as it was still getting value. And

07:49so that's that's the the main

07:51difference.

07:52>> Yeah, that's four four and a half

07:53million dollars right there.

07:55>> Yeah, interest is a significant

07:57significant chunk of tax

07:59>> interest the regional loans. That's I

08:02see it.

08:03>> Yeah. 4 and a half million in interest

08:04or no that's not

08:06>> that's interest on the bond

08:08>> and then there's a principal horse has

08:09got 2 million for the difference

08:16>> uh back to hold on let me get to the

08:19right

08:22>> back to this how how the plan

08:25>> which was this

08:26>> uh back to this one

08:28>> um under FY28 perform uh the ending

08:32balance

08:33What is the plan to patch that 665?

08:37>> That is a great question.

08:39>> Well, um the commission approved last

08:42night sale of the Kelly diversified

08:44tract, which is a back stop. Okay. One

08:47back stop. Now, as Jamie mentioned, uh

08:50when we moved into kind of real revenue,

08:52it exceeded the projection from two

08:55years prior. So, anyhow, we're we're

08:58sort of naturally gaining ground, I

08:59guess I would describe it. But you know

09:01we'll have this bullis from Kelly

09:03diversified that that that should much

09:06more than cover this. Okay. You know if

09:08you even think about these three years

09:09of deficit kind of winnowing from about

09:11665 down to 80.

09:14>> It's great news.

09:15>> So that and hope again these are very

09:17conservative. I'm a pessimist. So I'm

09:19hoping that this does not happen. That's

09:21good.

09:22uh just out of curiosity does and part

09:25you might be I'm sure you you guys were

09:27both uh work to this OBG consulting fee

09:31was heavy in 20

09:3525 and nothing in 2026 that's that's

09:39more of a reallocation but the same it

09:42still is setting but it's reallocated

09:47>> the other side of that is the revenue

09:49side I think when we bond on the

09:51festimates together. We estimated that

09:53we would do 1.2 million in sales from

09:57everything that OBG sells, sponsorship,

10:00naming rights, all of that. Currently, I

10:03think we're at 4.2 now fees. I'd have to

10:06m that the point is OBG has done a

10:10remarkable job far exceeding whatever we

10:13expected.

10:14>> I don't know how you could proceed about

10:16to be honest. That was awesome. Any

10:19other questions about the numbers, the

10:22big ones or the little ones?

10:23>> And that was all about the topic, all

10:26these OBG ones here. David, is that what

10:28you were asking?

10:29>> Uh, so the OBG in uh 2025, the

10:33consulting fee was 519,000, but I I

10:37think they've just reallocated some

10:39>> 26 is the employee, so it's the line

10:41above that. And so the 519,

10:44yeah, is comparable to the 578 from the

10:46line above it. It's just a different

10:48quoting. We we it's more specified about

10:51the financial system

10:51>> and they've reallocated that.

10:55>> Okay.

10:56>> There weren't titles on that page. I got

10:58lost.

11:00>> I found it.

11:05>> This is

11:08on the last page when it said FY2 main

11:11budget the uh revenue sources. So are

11:14those confirmed or those projections?

11:16Those are projections based on our

11:19budget which we are well on track with

11:22our current sales of

11:25>> you should meet those

11:25>> these are yeah these are very very 27 is

11:29not I'm not not as concerned about that

11:31I'm not as pessimistic but future years

11:33just get a little less

11:39email

11:40>> all right everyone good

11:43>> all right um remind

11:46Have

11:47>> have we been uh having a motion to

11:49accept the report? Has that been part of

11:50our

11:51>> I think that would be

11:51>> all right. So uh entertain a motion to

11:53accept this report.

11:57>> So move. All right. I got a motion from

11:59David. Second from Jen. All in favor

12:01please say I.

12:02>> Any opposed?

12:04>> Hearing none. Motion carries. All right.

12:06Um we now are going to turn things over

12:08to Accenture to hear an update from

12:10them. They've been very busy. Uh they

12:12were obviously busy even prior to our

12:14last gathering and have done some work

12:16subsequent to that. So go ahead and turn

12:18it over to y'all.

12:19>> Thanks. We're waiting for the

12:21presentation to make it over here in

12:24>> Oh, I got you.

12:26>> Oh, got it.

12:27>> Before long, we'll just download this

12:29into our frontal lobe, but present.

12:32We've got on all these bits and bites

12:34traveling over cyerspace.

12:38>> We all get those neural links.

12:40>> It's okay. My 12-year-old was panicking

12:42to print a three paragraph paper this

12:44morning at 8:00. I was like, "You got to

12:46go ask your dad. I can't help you with

12:47that right now."

12:49>> Got got some old school

12:51>> brought this up last night at 9:00.

12:55>> Some Somehow it never comes up the

12:57evening before the Always comes up like

13:00immediately when you got to pull out of

13:01the driveway.

13:02>> Exactly. Oh man,

13:03>> it's fascinating stuff.

13:04>> We made it on time.

13:06I I I I may have been guilty of similar

13:09behavior many many moons ago. So

13:11>> it'll come again.

13:12>> Get my comeuppance now.

13:14>> That's it's payback for me.

13:17>> At least at least when you could when

13:19you back to the digital, you just leave

13:22the house with a USB drive, a jump drive

13:24versus a print out

13:26>> because it'll much faster.

13:32>> Yeah.

13:40I think

13:50>> but we can get it ready.

13:56>> Your family is okay for everybody.

13:57>> It has we are full swing something.

14:00Okay. So, what I think that we need to

14:02do is just unplug laptops. It'll stop

14:05the stream while the presentation is

14:07being made and then um Sydney will post

14:09the presentation immediately after the

14:11meeting and when they finish with the

14:13presentation, we'll plug them back into

14:14the screen. But the issue right now,

14:19she's not able to pull the

14:22zoom link.

14:23>> Oh, I got you. All right. Well, we will

14:24unplug and replug.

14:27>> That sounds good.

14:28>> Some shade. Get some shade over there,

14:30don't you?

14:31>> Yes.

16:22They have a reconnect.

16:26Can you hear that? Can you hear me?

16:30Yeah, it just they're reconnecting the

16:31presentation. They had to take it

16:33offline. Put it back on.

16:37Hopefully, it'll work.

18:03Can you guys hear me now?

18:10>> I'm just curious if we if it's a whole

18:12new link.

18:14>> You think she's sending out a new link?

18:18It hasn't yet.

18:23>> If you haven't already, look in your

18:24email about Steven Connors from the NFL.

18:30>> Yeah, I see it.

18:32I don't read it, but

18:37>> time for a Tokyo trip in October.

19:02a whole is not wildly different from

19:06what everyone's expectations are. uh we

19:09don't think that we're in that direction

19:10but always good to ask that question to

19:13make sure that we're on the same page

19:15and parallel we've already started going

19:18down through phase two uh we're in the

19:20process of validating market demand um

19:24positioning on our pricing and timing so

19:26we're looking at the pricing

19:28understanding with the GC's that we're

19:30engaging as potential parking

19:33construction residential construction

19:36potential hospitality construction

19:38What are those prices? How are those

19:40prices going to in influence your

19:43phasing? Um, and in turn, how is that

19:46going to influence your tax revenue? How

19:47is that going to influence the city's

19:49ability to have dollars coming in the

19:51door? Uh, because we all know that's the

19:53most important thing right now. Um,

19:56refining parcel concepts.

19:59There's been some great ideas going

20:00across the board. Those are all being

20:02refined right now based on finance. um

20:06what's actually feasible with the

20:08geoteex. You know, we have town homes.

20:10We're having people price those town

20:12homes as far as just the pad sites.

20:14What's it going to actually cost? Is

20:17that going to make it unfeasible for a

20:20town home developer to build those town

20:22homes? So, we're reaching out to

20:24individual developers, getting pulsing

20:26uh their opinions on the actual sites,

20:29gauging interest, which is interest has

20:31been through the roof, uh which is

20:33incredible. Um, considering the market

20:35the way it sits right now, interest

20:37rates the way they are and money how

20:39it's hard to get equity, we've had a lot

20:41of great interest on all the sites,

20:43which is fantastic. Everybody loves

20:45Athens. Everybody wants to be here. Um,

20:48market studies are coming in. Um, don't

20:51want to comment on the market studies

20:53yet because they're not finalized.

20:55wouldn't be fair to those guys to throw

20:57any data out there without, you know,

21:00first reviewing the draft and then

21:02coming back the next meeting and we will

21:04have finalized market studies on an

21:06updated hospitality um and residential.

21:09The residential will encompass the town

21:11homes as well and take into

21:13consideration the parking needs of any

21:16residential as well as the potential

21:18parking needs for hospitality. Uh so

21:21that's kind of encompassing the parking

21:23side of it. um testing the parcel

21:26economics that is our pulsing of the

21:28developers um and our public cost. We're

21:31working with zoning. We've met with the

21:33city managers um trying to understand

21:36the implications as far as

21:37infrastructure are going to be on these

21:40developments.

21:42Our understanding is everything is up to

21:44par as far as being available as far as

21:47sewer capacity. We talked about that

21:49last time, but now we're to the point of

21:52saying where is the sewer line? You

21:54know, how much is it going to cost to

21:56get from point A to point B? Those are

21:58all baseline infrastructure cost that

22:01typically developers don't want to

22:03pocket themselves. So, we take that, we

22:06look at and say, okay, to connect power,

22:08connect sewer, um what's it actually

22:10going to cost? Um is and that will go as

22:13a line item for for discussion. uh is is

22:16something that's like this can be an

22:18opportunity for the city to put money in

22:20or an opportunity to cut a different

22:22type of of deal with the developers. Um

22:25so those are all things we're digging

22:27into trying to make sure we've uncovered

22:29all all the stones. Um, we're also

22:32meeting with Bruce, uh, talking about

22:34the different zoning opportunities to

22:36maximize ROI within the district,

22:39whether that's height restrictions that

22:41can be, uh, removed or changed based on

22:45the elevation currently uh, without

22:47impeding the rest of the city's uh,

22:49visual concept. Um, again, also how

22:53people are going to flow from the city

22:56to this district and how it's going to

22:58actually cohesively become something

23:01that is going to give the city an ROI

23:03that you're looking for. Um, it's

23:05starting to reveal itself that through

23:07this next phase that it's going to be

23:10very much a phased approach. Um, unclear

23:14what's going to be first. Um but it's

23:17not right now it's looking potentially

23:19parking as well as potentially

23:21residential but as we all know the

23:24amount of beds or apartments that are

23:28coming on board right now is substantial

23:30just for the city downtown. Um so with

23:34the role of um you know change in the

23:37amount of availability for apartments

23:39and the amount of people as the

23:41university continues to grow and Athens

23:43continues to grow then occupancy rises

23:46more people want to build apartments. So

23:49that's something that'll be fleshed out

23:51in the next month when we finalize the

23:53market study understanding the market

23:55demands that are pushing and pulling as

23:57far as hospitality, as far as

24:00residential, and as far as parking

24:02because as we know more additional

24:04parking is coming online as well. But

24:06does that solve the problem for the

24:08district? We don't necessarily think so.

24:12But it's something that we want to look

24:13at and make sure that we have the data

24:15to put a pin in and say this doesn't

24:17solve the problem. this is how the

24:18problem can be solved as far as parking

24:21and people flow and traffic flow. Um so

24:25that's all happening right now. We've

24:27started it in parallel. Um but through

24:30the stage right now we've got our stage

24:32gate right now. Obviously want to make

24:33sure conceptually everyone gets to say

24:37yes, we're good. Um and we just get a

24:40consensus from everyone. Um you know

24:43kind of a if you don't like it, please

24:45tell us now. If there's something that

24:46you hate um let us know uh so that so

24:50that we can make some shifts have some

24:52conversations on that.

24:53>> For the market feasibility do they also

24:56look at um project announcements where

24:58the people are not here yet? So they

25:00they're doing that kind of digging into

25:02Okay,

25:02>> they are um they're actually visiting

25:05sites. They're talking to owners.

25:07They're talking to business owners.

25:08They're talking to city employees. um

25:12they're really digging in to the actual

25:15market. Um and you know, we've worked

25:18with these companies for a long time. Um

25:20it's pretty standard for them to go out

25:22and start talking to um

25:24>> stakeholders.

25:25>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

25:27>> They're they're very I I would say

25:29comprehensive when it comes to gathering

25:31that data because it it influences

25:34people investing their money. So, um

25:38hopefully that'll be done. I mean, we

25:39had we got the first draft. is just not

25:41ready to share yet. Um, but this next

25:45phase is going to really start to round

25:48out what we're doing. Um, it's the

25:51planning strategy for the parcels, the

25:52phasing, how that's going to phase

25:55together, the public funding and capital

25:57stack strategy will be based on multiple

26:00line items. Um and Rebel's not they're

26:03here in the room but they are not uh

26:06presenting today because they're in the

26:07middle of putting their stacks together

26:10that are multiple options as to what are

26:12the funding options you know what are

26:14other cities doing you know that are

26:17creating these uh these entertainment

26:20districts Paul question

26:22>> yeah just back to the study

26:26>> when they do a study like this are they

26:28only looking at county or are they

26:31looking kind of that contiguous region

26:34around

26:35>> and they're they're looking at other

26:37comparable cities. I know that they've

26:38referenced a couple of projects going on

26:40say in like Colombia,

26:43you know, South Carolina where where USC

26:45is. I mean, they're they're they're

26:47taking a regional look, but obviously

26:49focused in heavily in Athens and the

26:52area.

26:53>> So, yeah. Is that your question, Paul,

26:54or you saying when they look at data,

26:57are they looking outside to

26:59>> when when they're looking at data? I

27:00mean, I just know for our business, our

27:03business does not come from

27:06our business comes from the state and

27:09and even ticket sales as I look at where

27:11our patrons are coming from, it's a much

27:14broader region than simply Clark County.

27:19So, my hope was that they're they're

27:20looking at kind of that broader region

27:23around us as they're assembling.

27:27I think that that's a good point and

27:28that's one reason they give us a draft

27:31and I think that's something that we can

27:33bring up to them to make sure that they

27:36have taken that into consideration. So I

27:38think that's a very good point and

27:40that's why they give us the draft. We'll

27:41review it and we'll make sure that that

27:42is in there.

27:44>> Absolutely.

27:45And just since we had a practice, so to

27:47speak, of a idea coming from this

27:50committee and then needing to be

27:52approved by the mayor and commission, it

27:54also has to fit for the elected

27:56officials to agree that we're not

27:59dropping something in here that's not

28:01classic.

28:02>> That's right.

28:03>> based type thing. So, um I mean there's

28:07something new, but it also has been good

28:11point. Certainly uh on the calendar uh

28:14we're looking at a work session for the

28:15full commission in October. Okay. The

28:17second Tuesday of the month and so that

28:20that'll give everybody an opportunity to

28:22part of this conversation.

28:23>> Okay. So because that was the other

28:25thing making sure that

28:27we don't give too much reading material

28:29at one time when it comes out of here so

28:32that we're and that's what you're saying

28:34is it'll be glimpse at some of the this

28:38information.

28:39>> Okay. Okay. And the other thing was I

28:41just noticed the infill next to the news

28:44building.

28:45>> What is that going to be?

28:46>> Oh, I I do not know. Is it cond? It's a

28:51wrap um of the rear of the building with

28:54multif family. Okay. The commercial.

28:57>> Um so where the old print room was,

29:00>> yes,

29:00>> of the new paper building that's being

29:02repurposed into structured parking.

29:04>> Okay. And then the surface part between

29:06the prin is footprint

29:10>> for multi-story multif family.

29:13>> And at the corner there's going to be

29:14sort of a tampered sort of entry into

29:17the building that's going to be

29:18commercial.

29:19>> Yeah.

29:21>> We should just come straight to you. I

29:23knew you would have

29:25>> because

29:27>> Yeah. And so my point being, you know,

29:29making sure the diversity is including

29:32what new is coming in. We obviously

29:34can't count on those parking spots,

29:36>> but their count is relevant. They're not

29:39looking at our parking for their

29:43>> if I could piggy back off.

29:46>> If the group is doing the market study,

29:49>> I'm not aware that they contacted

29:50planning department for

29:52>> data

29:54either.

29:54>> So happy to provide that. If you're

29:56using a third party source, we found

29:58that third party for is a little skewed.

30:02So happy to help to get good primary

30:04service available for their site.

30:06>> We'll put you in touch with them.

30:07>> Yeah. I mean just even our utilities

30:09numbers demonstrate a different

30:10population load for the county than you

30:13look at census data alone.

30:16>> Absolutely.

30:17>> And and then the storm water um part of

30:20the utilities.

30:21>> Oh, that's a big part.

30:23>> That that's a huge part. I'm glad you

30:25brought that up. We're currently and I

30:27think it's on one of the next slides,

30:28but we can go ahead and talk about it

30:30now. We're engaged with Breedlove uh

30:32land planning uh to do the hydrarology

30:34study understanding that the current

30:36detention is a district detention and so

30:40a lot of the water slides into there as

30:42as Bruce shakes his head. So

30:45>> it's taking a a lot of water

30:47>> 194,000 gallons I believe.

30:49>> Um yeah. So we're looking at that and

30:51saying okay is there an opportunity to

30:53split that up? Is there an opportunity

30:55to, you know, not displace it

30:57necessarily, just say, "Hey, can we put

30:58more over here underground or over here

31:01underground to, you know, displace the

31:03cost of building more residential there

31:05because building over the vault is

31:07excessively expensive,

31:08>> right?

31:08>> So looking at opportunities.

31:10>> Yeah. So you're looking at multiple

31:12versions of it instead of one version."

31:14>> Yes. Just as opportunities also

31:17>> improved

31:18>> and [clears throat] and that may not

31:19work, but it's an opportunity to spread

31:21cost around. Uh, so it's just something

31:23that we're exploring.

31:24>> Well, and it's it's it's definitely

31:26something that I thought could be done

31:27better. So if if it can, it can.

31:29>> If it can, that that's right. And that's

31:31our job is to explore those

31:32opportunities where we can spread the

31:34cost around to different developers or

31:36owners and say, "Okay, you're

31:37responsible for your storm water. You're

31:39responsible for yours."

31:40>> And I said it may not be possible, but

31:42it's an opportunity that we're looking

31:43into.

31:43>> I'm sure the arena had to deal with a

31:45lot of this, too. I think they had some

31:46systems with some pretty sophisticated

31:47pump systems and pretty big tension.

31:51Paul, one of the best things here is to

31:54figure out how to not overengineer the

31:56storm water

31:58>> and how to use otherwise undevelopable

32:02to help with your storm water. I think

32:04our very real viable opportunity that

32:07>> it wouldn't eat up otherwise developable

32:10space facility or add cost of an

32:13ingground facility in the footprint of

32:15the building. I think I think we have a

32:17little bit of a blessing on the edge of

32:19this district. just need to think

32:20through

32:21>> where the terrain is more challenging

32:23>> where we have a green.

32:24>> Absolutely. So it looks like y'all

32:26looked into this in the past. So I think

32:28that would be helpful in our studies to

32:30to evaluate that Bruce. So we'll we'll

32:32get with you on that.

32:33>> That's brilliant.

32:33>> Yeah,

32:34>> that it is a significant dollar number

32:36if we have to deal with it on site

32:38>> and involve underneath the future

32:40developments.

32:41>> Yeah.

32:45Just to kind of piggyback on just to

32:46kind of close this slide out. I think

32:48the key takeaway here

32:50>> uh just to kind of put it more

32:51succinctly is you know we've always

32:53broken this process into multiple phases

32:55right kind of where we are right now is

32:56sort of on the tail end slashconclusion

32:59of this first phase which we've always

33:01established kind of laying the

33:03groundwork. It's kind of we've

33:04identified a couple of highest best use

33:07um you know ways to execute. we've been

33:11able to physically map them out. That's

33:13sort of the conclusion of where we are.

33:14Um, and now as we go more heavily into

33:18this next phase, that's really kind of

33:21finding the viability of those highest

33:23best use. You know, are they are they

33:25market reasonable? Um, is it possible to

33:27to execute in the way we're we're

33:29envisioning or, you know, are there

33:31factors that are going to impede that

33:33and do we need to pivot and look at

33:35things, you know, a little bit

33:36differently. So, it's kind of where we

33:38are really.

33:40Yeah. And um as mentioned uh Rebel is is

33:43putting together their financial

33:45strategies once the u private

33:48development models are complete. They

33:50will roll in um to the Rebel model which

33:52is the public model. And we'll give the

33:55public options u you know here's an

33:57option of how to you know pay this.

33:59Here's an option of how to pay this.

34:00Here's an option of how to pay this. And

34:02I when I say this we don't know what

34:04this is yet. So I just want to be very

34:06clear. We don't know what that is nor

34:07any amounts. Um, but it it does give

34:10options that are, you know, they are

34:12very creative. Um, and as as uh my

34:15colleague Lauren says, we don't like to

34:17use the word creative when it comes to

34:18finance, but there are some good options

34:20that have come out that have worked

34:21really well in other municipalities. Um,

34:24you know, that are very, very limited

34:27risk. And so I think that's something

34:28that's important here. Um, to move on to

34:32the next, the progress update. Um,

34:40Okay. Um, design status update. Uh, we

34:44revised the look of the connectivity and

34:46placemaking uh, for the entertainment

34:48plaza area. Um, we listened to what

34:51everyone said at the at the last

34:52meeting. Um, we'll present a walkthrough

34:55of this in just a few minutes. Um, once

34:57we just kind of finished the update uh,

34:59and and asked for feedback on that. Um

35:02but like as I our ask is we want to

35:04reach consensus on the revised site

35:07plan. It's not very different but we

35:09think it took into consideration what

35:11everyone said last time and more

35:12creating a more cohesive you know area

35:16that's going to you know really bring

35:18people into the district. Um stakeholder

35:21meetings we met with the tax assessor's

35:22office. um we appreciate that from them

35:25and that helps it just nail down uh for

35:28the private development model uh the tax

35:30assumptions and also the tax revenue for

35:34the city um and when that tax revenue is

35:37going to become live based on the

35:39schedules of these developments.

35:41um met with visit Athens uh yesterday.

35:44Um great great meeting. Um have have had

35:48really good meetings with just business

35:49owners and understanding what's going on

35:51within the city and uh so very

35:54informative.

35:55>> Absolutely. Of

35:56>> course.

35:57>> Who who was the um represented

36:02when you met with visit Athens? Who who

36:05was there?

36:06>> Katie.

36:07>> Okay. Um, Alex, is that her her name?

36:11>> No. Who who runs the Hyatt?

36:14>> Abby.

36:15>> Abby of the Hyatt.

36:16>> Yep. And then um

36:19>> Chad Brown.

36:21>> Thanks. Absolutely.

36:26>> Um, and upholder Oh, excuse me. Um,

36:28upcoming stakeholder meetings. um trying

36:31to get scheduled with commissioning

36:33commissioner Tiffany Taylor as well as

36:36with Dexter Fischer um to try and touch

36:38all of our bases. I think that'll kind

36:40of round round out all our stakeholder

36:42meetings. But again, um you know, we've

36:44had conversations. You know, if you have

36:46someone else you want us to meet with,

36:48feel free, you know, send it over. We're

36:50happy to meet. The more information we

36:51can gather and and put it in the file,

36:53the better off we are. Um so feel free

36:56to reach out if there's anyone else you

36:58think we should meet with. No, I know. I

37:00know how hard Tiffany is to catch. So,

37:02if I can help

37:03>> that would be fantast.

37:07>> You can just talk talk to me and Danny

37:09and that's fine.

37:10>> All right. I'll see if we can.

37:11>> Okay.

37:11>> If I can reach out and let her know.

37:13>> Absolutely. U we we definitely want her

37:15feedback. Her feedback.

37:16>> Yeah. I want I don't want her to feel I

37:18want her to know

37:20her involvement is is important to us.

37:23>> Absolutely. No, I really appreciate

37:25that. Thank you. Um John Well, have

37:29y'all have you determined the

37:31hospitality need? I know you were

37:33meeting with some of them.

37:34>> We've met with them and um you know,

37:37everyone has their different thoughts on

37:41u viability. Um we did we are having an

37:45updated hospitality study completed.

37:47>> Um so I can't comment on it really

37:50without that study being completed. I I

37:52don't you know they're the ones going

37:54through it. Um but you know if you you

37:58know you know David and I know you know

38:00Chad and you know if you talk to them

38:03they're seeing the same market that you

38:06know they're that Athens is seeing. Um

38:09so it it's

38:11there's push and pull you know u but we

38:14I don't really know the answer yet. And

38:16one of the reasons we're saying

38:18hospitality is because rather than hotel

38:22um is because there's potentially um

38:25other opportunities for hospitality,

38:27different hybrid structures or different

38:31u you know condo combination mixeduse

38:35product. Um just really don't have the

38:37answer yet. Um you know potential other

38:39partnerships. Um I just don't know. But

38:43>> hopefully to round that out. Yeah. I say

38:46like I'm talking double speed, but we

38:48also in those conversations have seen

38:50some opportunities moving forward as

38:53suggestions to make things a little bit

38:55more efficient and effective.

38:58>> Yeah. So, all overall good

39:00conversations. Nice to get everybody's,

39:02you know, opinion and see where where

39:04they sit and everyone's been very

39:06forthright and I appreciate all those

39:08conversations that we've had. I

39:10nonetheless I it doesn't really alter

39:12our our vision on the the master site

39:14plan as far as what is

39:16>> that we've identified the location for

39:18something because what what form does

39:20that take what does that look like

39:22>> that's that's really up the question and

39:24that's the whole point of this process

39:25is like

39:26>> we've identified that site for something

39:28you know it's a good locations right um

39:30there's good value to it but what is and

39:32now as we go into this next step in the

39:34process it's like what actually makes

39:35sense today what

39:37>> box identified and that could be a hotel

39:39rooms or they could be extended space

39:41suites.

39:41>> Yes.

39:42>> Yeah.

39:44>> Yeah. Whatever.

39:47>> Um and the other stuff we're on

39:49obviously breed land planning is in the

39:51process of storm water and watershed

39:53study and then general contractors are

39:56being engaged reviewing the master plan

39:58to provide ROM pricing on site

39:59development as well as infrastructure

40:01work. uh that was will be layered into

40:03the model as we said what then we can

40:06discuss what would potentially be

40:07privately funded what will potentially

40:08public

40:12schedule update

40:15so stakeholder meetings that we're

40:16trying to get scheduled over the next 30

40:18days we breed level finalize the

40:21assumptions for the district um then

40:24we'll cross reference highest and best

40:26use analysis with feasibility and

40:28viability to study each individual

40:29project that kind of goes from talks to

40:32reality. Um and then continue creation

40:35iteration of the overall financial

40:37models uh for the individual parcels for

40:39development um coinciding with expected

40:42revenue projections for the city. Hence

40:44the tax the meeting with the tax

40:46assessment uh office um project plan.

40:50This is as Chad mentioned we're rounding

40:52out phase one and we're going into phase

40:55two. Um we've we've hit we've already

40:59paralleled and we've hit the parcel

41:00concept plan. Uh that's that's today.

41:03What you know here's where we think we

41:05are and then

41:08site integration workshops that's with

41:10Bruce and with with the city and saying

41:13okay what infrastructure do we have work

41:14with breed love? What are our

41:16requirements? How do we integrate these

41:17sites to make them the most efficient uh

41:20for public and private? And then

41:22infrastructure coordination digs deeper

41:24into that understanding true linear feed

41:27how the site works together. Um and then

41:30financial model and capital stack

41:32planning will round out as we understand

41:34those cost and then uh rebel will work

41:38on delivery options memo P3 and other

41:41viable financial structures. Uh and

41:44that's what I mentioned earlier of

41:45here's here are some options that we

41:47believe are very viable and here's what

41:49they cost. Um and then that's the final

41:52product. So that's roughly over it's it

41:56sticks to our original schedule. Um

41:58things have moved shifted up and down

42:00based on a meeting availability but

42:01we're still on track to meet our

42:03original schedule uh before the

42:05holidays.

42:09>> Yes. So looking at the performance

42:12center um and the uh estimated cash from

42:17the development in fiscal year 2029 of

42:201.7 is that realistic is that it's a

42:22timeline realistic and is that a that

42:25dollar amount realistic?

42:26>> We don't know yet. I mean it be

42:27impossible to say at that point. Yeah.

42:30>> But is the timeline realistic where that

42:32we can start seeing some income by then?

42:34So I would say that it's a loaded

42:38question, but I can give you a kind of

42:40an ex a deeper explanation.

42:43Yes, in that there could be some

42:45revenue. Uh if you sign a ground lease,

42:48that would be revenue. If you sale of

42:51Kelly diversified, that would be

42:52revenue. Sale of another site, that

42:55could be revenue. Um tax revenue, we're

42:58still working on that schedule. That's

43:00what Rebel is laying out. Um, so I can't

43:04comment on the tax, but as far as direct

43:06revenue influx, it could be ground lease

43:08or it could be direct sale or something

43:10else that we don't we're not aware of

43:12currently.

43:13>> Yeah, we don't want to get ahead of

43:14ourselves and right conjecture, but I do

43:16think the way it's going the shorter

43:18term financial influx would come from

43:20the value of the land. The longer term

43:22more sustainable um income stream will

43:25probably be devoted I mean derived from

43:26the tax the property taxes that come off

43:28that TADS and otherwise.

43:30>> Yeah. Yeah. Tad Motel, just different

43:33different structures in property.

43:37>> Am I correct that the tax revenue

43:40increased doesn't come until the January

43:43assessment of the year of the

43:46certificate of occupancy?

43:48>> Yeah. Well,

43:49>> something being built,

43:50>> it it will incrementally grow year over

43:52year through construction. They

43:54typically assess and we'll base that

43:56assessment off of the amount of

43:58construction that's been done and value

43:59of that construction.

44:01>> That's during the construction period.

44:02And then when you deliver, it's

44:05reassessed um at a market value that the

44:08assessor's office would assign. And then

44:10typically in the future when it

44:11transacts and trades to a new seller,

44:13it'll get reassessed again and and use

44:15that sale value as as a basis of its

44:18assessment. I didn't realize it was um

44:20increased property value during

44:22construction

44:24>> different municipalities

44:27how they do it

44:28>> when we met with the text funders it is

44:30confirmed that they look at improvement

44:32value for during construction

44:34>> the meeting that January time frame for

44:36the assessment if there's work done for

44:38them

44:39>> improvements during construction that

44:41would be considered as part of

44:44>> so the dog park is not a dog park

44:46anymore the dog park now has utilities

44:49infrastructure whatever.

44:51>> Yeah. So yeah, value adopt park land the

44:54plus the improvements on it at time of

44:56January will get this.

44:58>> So that it's not until it's

45:01>> that's helpful because

45:03>> that had that locked in there and so

45:06that's incremental. It won't be zero to

45:10100 but it but it takes a number of

45:12years and this because obviously

45:13construction development kind of a

45:15slower process. It'll take a number of

45:16years for it to really hit its full

45:18fully captured.

45:19>> Yeah. But we don't have to wait the

45:22whole time.

45:23>> But even a parcel that's currently owned

45:25by the government and is not assessed,

45:27if it's sold at a market rate, it may

45:29also influence the value of the digest

45:32going forward, right? If it is sold to a

45:34private

45:35>> owner and then it's sold at whatever

45:37market price that's higher than maybe

45:40what it was just valued at previously,

45:42even if it wasn't taxed,

45:44>> then that would also so if say you were

45:47selling a parcel, then it would still

45:48impact the assessment of it for the

45:51>> the next year after the parcel is sold.

45:53Does that make sense?

45:54>> It does. Especially since Kelly de Bertz

45:56spot is that example right sitting there

45:59with no pro no it hasn't really been

46:01assessed because it hasn't really had

46:03its next purpose

46:04>> well it has a value but it hasn't been

46:06tax right but then if it's sold at a

46:08certain value that the market determines

46:10or whatever process the sale goes

46:12through then

46:13>> right

46:14>> but that'll be a zero tax dollar basis

46:16to then you're starting to earn

46:18>> right and then another parcel if if

46:21you're looking right now that's let's

46:23just say that's the only one we're going

46:25to sell. The rest are going to be

46:26leased. Then, like you're saying, before

46:28they would break ground for

46:29improvements, we're getting the lease

46:31amount as an income. And then the next

46:33January, whatever improvements come in

46:35that year is then the tax

46:38>> improvement money government. I don't

46:40know how the municipality treats ground

46:42leases as far as assessment valued. I

46:45don't know if they derive a market value

46:47from that ground.

46:48>> Income, right? Just income.

46:50>> I think it would just be whatever's

46:51vertical on top of them.

46:52>> Yeah. Vertical. I mean, but we're

46:54getting the least income.

46:56>> Yeah, there's some imputed value that

46:57that is attributable to something with

47:00additional to like but it's it's not as

47:03equal to a site value,

47:05but there's still a little

47:08produce

47:12a little bit.

47:16>> That's just plan. Is it the next slide?

47:20>> Yes.

47:20>> Okay. Because I I

47:22>> Okay. All right.

47:24We'll just

47:26>> um Yep. We heard your feedback. We've

47:28taken this into consideration as

47:30Jennifer said, so we can move on. Chad,

47:32if you want do you want to run through

47:34these?

47:37>> All right. So, a lot of this we've seen.

47:39Um this we've maintained this footprint

47:43footprint. This footprint, this parking

47:46deck extension, we think that's the most

47:47viable parking in the short term. This

47:50location we st we looked at last time.

47:52It's a little bit of a, you know, future

47:56phase off of the question. It could make

47:58sense for parking. Could also make sense

47:59for another site or some other use sort

48:02of we're keeping that in our back pocket

48:04as a, you know, as a flexible site.

48:06>> That's the pavilion currently. Is that

48:08that parcel? Okay.

48:09>> Yeah. So, yeah, that's right. And so I

48:11think what a lot of our efforts uh over

48:14the past month and a half or so the

48:17feedback we've received was that you

48:19know this mostly it was acceptable

48:21acceptable acceptable all that but there

48:23wasn't really a whole lot that led

48:24itself towards the placemaking and the

48:26and the the event you know around

48:29surrounding the arena. How do we

48:30capitalize that and take advantage of

48:32that? So what we've really focused on

48:35the last over the last month or so is to

48:39flush out

48:40>> connectivity between the downtown. So as

48:43you know the the

48:46topography is very very uh steep and

48:49it's it's not easy to get from here from

48:52here right and it's not necessarily

48:54always super clear. So we have gone and

48:57we've really I think established a a

48:59strong connection from this core

49:03downtown through u this avenue down into

49:09what we would what we're designing as a

49:11sort of a plaza

49:13spill out area of the arena that would

49:16allow some real strong activation around

49:18the event that's

49:22horizon you kind of giving a little bit

49:23of scale

49:24It's obviously in line, you know, from a

49:26verbality standpoint. It's in line with

49:29kind of existing.

49:33Again, just more sort of inspiration,

49:35but this really focuses on this concept

49:38of a of a bright, you know, well

49:41illuminated, well advertised corridor

49:44taking you from

49:47downtown altitude through this kind of

49:50covered

49:51lit walkway.

49:53over and I think currently this is a lot

49:55of the way the circulation happens

49:57naturally but it's not necessarily super

49:59clear and then a lot of people come up

50:00here and they'll just run most of the

50:02elevators and stairs here and it gets a

50:04little bit congested but this is u and

50:07we'll we'll get to it but we're we're

50:09implementing more of a escalator stair

50:12system

50:14and is uh feeding into this kind of

50:16arena plot and it's great that we're

50:18we're showing

50:21much easier uh purpose

50:23>> and who would own this? This would be

50:26owned, managed by

50:28>> we haven't really found this, you know,

50:31worked through all those um pegs, but I

50:34think most likely the arena would

50:36probably own an operator or the classic

50:39center, some some way, shape, or form.

50:40>> Just to be super clear for everybody, is

50:43that the theater on the left side?

50:45>> Yes.

50:46>> Yeah, that's the existing car,

50:48>> the auto bridge.

50:49>> Yes.

50:52>> Okay. So it's to totally taking the auto

50:55version.

50:55>> No, not completely. It's just taking up

50:57enough for pedestrian access.

50:59>> Okay.

50:59>> You lose the parallel.

51:02>> That's right. Yeah.

51:04>> Makes for say dedicated pedestrian

51:07versus

51:09>> and there's also a way.

51:11>> Yes.

51:12Doesn't scream let's go to the arena

51:15when you walk down Thomas Street there.

51:18>> This will say come come on in.

51:21But that area currently is flat and

51:23we're not talking about putting

51:25terraces.

51:26>> Terraces are active.

51:27>> So this so this is sort of the bridge

51:29right here, right? So we'll be doing

51:31that and then this would be part of

51:35help you

51:36>> okay

51:36>> like an escalator

51:38there. I I think once we get to actual

51:41visual like renderings it'll make

51:43>> we got some great little more sense

51:49today.

51:51>> No,

51:52>> no, no, that's good.

51:55No, actually might be a little better.

51:57Yeah,

51:58>> there we go.

51:59>> So D is going to be additional parting.

52:02He he exists the currently is exal

52:06parking that take extends the deck over

52:08the rail rail line.

52:11>> Okay.

52:13>> So there's not

52:16>> Okay. No, no, no, no. I'm with you.

52:17>> And it does not conflict with the

52:19multimodal at all.

52:20>> And it ties in each level that it allows

52:22an extension of the deck without having

52:24to create additional, you know,

52:25vertical.

52:26>> Yes.

52:28It's a lot more efficient that way.

52:29>> Yeah. How many additional spaces have

52:31you had?

52:31>> No, it there's there's a couple

52:33different schemes. So, one scheme can

52:35leaders a little bit into the uh

52:37multimodal airspace. It it wouldn't

52:40affect the flow of the buses, but that's

52:42something that we could do that would

52:43generate I think at keeping at the same

52:46plane doors, four stories, it would it

52:48would generate about 480 spaces, right?

52:51>> If you pull it back so it's flush with

52:53the with the airline without the canal

52:55lever, I think it's 420. No, it's a

52:59somewhere between 4 and 24 can go up.

53:02We've studied it. We can go up higher.

53:05Um, we can extend up higher a couple,

53:08you know, number of floors. Uh, would

53:10need to incorporate a new vertical ramp

53:13system, but they can accommodate it and

53:16that would give you another say 100 or

53:18so.

53:25This this touches on sort of the way we

53:27envision the pedestrian

53:30circulation to happen around this this

53:32whole kind of master plan concept. So,

53:34as you know, there's a ton of different

53:35elevation points. 684 H Street, you go

53:39up to 720, that's the the the that's

53:43sort of at the baseline of the arena

53:45where you have that, you know, that

53:47really broad

53:48>> the crate plaza.

53:49>> Yeah. And then

53:54street and then you go up and I think

53:56it's

53:5840.

54:04>> So we you know we see obviously

54:06circulation now broader

54:10this kind of landing area. Um now what

54:14we had just described earlier which

54:16would be going down this kind of new

54:18built out

54:21kind of way. And then of course the

54:24Firefly Trail that would extend through

54:27the the apartment complex out through

54:30tie into the uh walks, you know, the

54:34different trail systems

54:36there. your little white box there uh

54:39with the stairway that's st down here

54:42low are the town houses stairway to um

54:46so

54:47>> yes

54:48>> we've getting an elevator in there so

54:49everybody can use it

54:50>> yes that's that's something that we

54:53>> yeah you can see why that's important um

54:57>> is because it's on there and what it

54:59does is it pushes all ride share down to

55:02that side so that you don't allow any

55:04Ubers up at the top Yeah.

55:06>> So this is we we wanted to study this

55:10too and I don't know if Uber and drop

55:13off and all that is a hassle today as it

55:15is but

55:17>> for these events I have to imagine it is

55:19there's not a lot of you know obviously

55:22you know cohesive uh organization of it.

55:26So, you know, we think of implementing

55:28this kind of rare concept where like in

55:30an airport, you know, you have these

55:32zones where these these tubers are are

55:35designated to go to. It just makes it

55:37convenient for everybody and safe. We

55:39haven't had a chance to review this with

55:41classic operations though.

55:45>> Just thoughts

55:48should putting thoughts out there as we

55:49as we kind of carry through all this.

55:51>> Well, that would make it again usable

55:54for everybody. How many stories is that

55:56that go up flight the stairs? Oh, it's a

55:59lot.

56:01>> That's a lot.

56:02>> It's Yeah, we've all he

56:05>> do right now.

56:07>> Um I can see if I can push it down.

56:11>> Let's jump into some of the

56:13>> Yeah.

56:14>> Well, can we just do one go back just a

56:16little bit so we can kind of overlay the

56:18what we picture here. So the concept

56:21here is that you know and we've studied

56:23I think previously we've studied the

56:24multimotal being a tunnel location for

56:26discounts still out obviously that comes

56:29with a ton of challenges relocating that

56:31transportation but that could be a

56:33decade before anything actually happens

56:35there. Um, so the concept here is to

56:39take as we're expanding this deck to

56:42take the 720 level and basically

56:45extending that concrete slab to tie into

56:49the existing

56:51arena at that kind of ground level. So

56:53it's it's sort of up on a platform, but

56:56the scale we think is pretty

56:58appropriate. Um, the battery was

57:00something that we looked at as sort of a

57:02as a inspiration for how we could

57:04envision this. So we incorporate about

57:079,700 square ft of of new retail,

57:11restaurant space, whatever um really

57:13works there.

57:14>> How much did you say?

57:16>> 9700 just I mean you know just all 10.

57:19So that's probably two or three um

57:22decent sized restaurants. Um, now I mean

57:25obviously a lot of that is going to be

57:27market driven and otherwise and there's

57:29probably ways we could fill in other

57:30pockets, but I think what really is

57:31important here is to have this kind of

57:35gathering green space where you could

57:37have community events. You know, you

57:39could you could go I mean if you've ever

57:42been to battery, it's a really great

57:43example of how well that would be

57:44executed. That's kind of what we can

57:46picture here. And I think sizing wise

57:48it's very appropriate.

57:50We can follow up with more studies on

57:53it, but you know, we looked and so

57:55basically, you know, at these major

57:56events, we're assuming, you know, about

57:59six square feet per person on this

58:01space, which would gives you about, you

58:03know, it would accommodate about 60

58:056,000 people or so in this area.

58:10Yeah.

58:15Ways you can activate space.

58:21This is looking down

58:38>> and a lot of that's off. They have just

58:40barricades when there's activity there.

58:42And again when you get into those

58:47but I like the add addition of the um

58:50commercial activities

58:53facilities because then that gives that

58:55I think you as you talked about for

58:56staggering of people getting there early

59:00having something to do staying late

59:02something to do or just leaving

59:06>> extender stays

59:08>> what you call

59:08>> extender stays

59:10>> this is what is arrival the street

59:13>> extend or extend at the beginning or

59:15extended back.

59:17>> This this showcases down at the level

59:20what you know what a new apartment

59:22complex could

59:26>> sticking to retail on the on the bottom

59:29>> that obviously that's a that's probably

59:32>> I like it because you have a look like

59:35this instead of just a bear wall. That's

59:37why we have

59:43>> nothing.

59:46>> Yes.

1:00:03>> Can you can you go back one slide?

1:00:07You like the red one?

1:00:08>> No, one more.

1:00:13>> Actually, one more.

1:00:15>> All right. Right there. These on the

1:00:18right primary.

1:00:21Where's the existing plaza and how

1:00:24doesn't exist? So,

1:00:25>> well, no, no,

1:00:27something.

1:00:31>> Oh,

1:00:33everything above the green. Yeah, so the

1:00:36dream this is an inclusive building,

1:00:38right?

1:00:39>> But it's on grade with the entry into

1:00:41the

1:00:43skin as it said. This is the addition.

1:00:45>> Yeah.

1:00:46>> Space.

1:00:47>> Yeah.

1:00:47>> And the idea behind this was very

1:00:50calculated. Like Chad said, we looked at

1:00:53similar size spaces for people because

1:00:55if you make it too large, you feel like

1:00:58you're overwhelmed.

1:00:59>> Well, but like walking out of the deck,

1:01:02it's on grade.

1:01:03>> Yes. And

1:01:04>> right where the entrance is,

1:01:05>> the entrance of the

1:01:06>> current where the entrance is currently.

1:01:09>> No, no, I I walked down there and spent

1:01:11some time down there and that was

1:01:13actually one of the things that made a

1:01:15lot of sense just then they're looking

1:01:18>> was to try to expand that area.

1:01:21>> It'll be a little more clear when we

1:01:23show

1:01:24>> we call we call for simplicity level

1:01:28which is founders.

1:01:28>> What does that mean?

1:01:34Clearly, of course.

1:01:35>> And and then the other thing you're

1:01:36going to see is that we're looking at

1:01:38you come across that that plaza looking

1:01:41down Boundary Street becomes an activity

1:01:45zone and we're looking at maybe even

1:01:47potentially extending it into Boundary

1:01:50Street 2 if we need to.

1:01:52>> Just while you're on this screen, sort

1:01:53of a quick note about small possibility.

1:01:57You know, you you've got this sort of

1:01:58pedestrian movement along the south face

1:02:01of the arena here.

1:02:03Right now, you've got that kind of weird

1:02:05peninsula from the multimmoal center

1:02:07that extends out and you've got that

1:02:10drive aisle where the buses come in. I

1:02:12could imagine a scenario where that

1:02:14drive aisle more closely hugs the

1:02:16building and you just eliminate that

1:02:17little peninsula. I spent a lot of time

1:02:19down there. Very rarely used. I mean,

1:02:21it's a

1:02:22>> dead set. We thought about that for the

1:02:24for the Uber and Lift pickup area just

1:02:26because it would keep people from

1:02:27crossing the street. But you know, it's

1:02:30exactly right. It's an opportunity.

1:02:31>> It's a work in progress. Tell you, we

1:02:34spent a lot of time talking about

1:02:36exactly what you said. I think we've got

1:02:39a lot more ideas than we have in this.

1:02:48>> So that's that space. That's that's the

1:02:51bridge to

1:02:52>> that's your uh

1:02:53>> that's your bridge with the new

1:02:54elevators looking back towards broad

1:02:56street wall on the right

1:03:00>> we drop off

1:03:03>> kind of addressing exactly what I think

1:03:05>> and with the expanded

1:03:07>> yeah as far as I mean I don't know if

1:03:08you if we were considering this for like

1:03:10more activation it's just the altitude I

1:03:12mean that

1:03:13>> elevation is not that distinctly

1:03:17different zones it's kind of possible

1:03:22grid up at the upper right.

1:03:26>> Yeah, no one knew where we were looking

1:03:27at.

1:03:29>> I don't think where is this

1:03:31>> I missed your

1:03:36concept that we're considering.

1:03:39>> Yeah,

1:03:40>> this is that that elevator escalator

1:03:43system that we were discussing. Um you

1:03:45can see the scale. We think it's really

1:03:47appropriate. I think anything bigger

1:03:50would start to feel like you're lost in

1:03:51the ocean a little bit. And again, I

1:03:54mean, the actual execution of the

1:03:56retail, it's yet to be seen, but we're

1:03:58we're envisioning sort of a multi-ter

1:04:02arrangement so that there's there's, you

1:04:04know, some restaurant space because, you

1:04:06know, still the benefit of of the

1:04:09elevation shape. I mean, you have sort

1:04:10of a landing here, right? And so kind of

1:04:12it would be able to come down so people

1:04:15stop delaying and be able to fill out

1:04:16into the kind of retail area or didn't

1:04:19go down into the larger

1:04:22the area. Maybe stop right there in the

1:04:25same reaction.

1:04:26>> One quick question. How many square

1:04:28feet? I see it said 37,000

1:04:31including what's there now.

1:04:33>> Yeah.

1:04:36And then this uh let's say I'm up on

1:04:38this deck where the lights are

1:04:41>> then that's the um

1:04:44>> if I was over where the window is that

1:04:46was the new parking deck.

1:04:47>> That's correct.

1:04:49>> Yeah.

1:04:51That active

1:04:52>> that's one of the other zone one of our

1:04:55things is we want active not dead walls.

1:04:59No, I think we're where applicable

1:05:01obviously there are

1:05:04>> less attractive sides. Yeah,

1:05:06>> just another question.

1:05:08Has there been a a long boundary of

1:05:12maybe taking out some of our the

1:05:15existing parking?

1:05:17Now that you have residential and

1:05:20potentially hospitality,

1:05:23as you're beginning to walk down Foundry

1:05:25Door, would you take out any of that

1:05:28parking to create retail along the

1:05:31street level?

1:05:32>> You could.

1:05:33>> Yeah. just to go right down

1:05:38to some of that parallel street parking

1:05:47street

1:05:49like I've always thought in college here

1:05:51that this could be activated one day

1:05:54into what we've got going on here

1:05:56especially when they got big stuff going

1:05:58on decision

1:05:59>> I mean historically you know before the

1:06:00arena and everything else there's no

1:06:02reason to be doubt everybody body stops.

1:06:04>> Yeah, it's long. You could do it

1:06:06immediately with like a food truck

1:06:09through there or something stalls or or

1:06:11whatever

1:06:12your car is on your it'll pedestrian

1:06:16only

1:06:16>> but logistically you need it when it's

1:06:19not pedestrian

1:06:20>> to load in. Yeah, for sure. So it's it's

1:06:23>> it goes both ways,

1:06:24>> but it's intentional. Like right now

1:06:26when it happens and gets closed off, you

1:06:28do it's it's not a pretty version of it.

1:06:31And we can still have that same fault of

1:06:33the functions. It seems like with it

1:06:35being

1:06:36>> designed

1:06:38for all ages, too. Yeah.

1:06:42>> Comment because I really do have to go.

1:06:44Uh my uh so I'm liking the the area. I'm

1:06:48liking that it's all on the same level.

1:06:50I like that it's lined by multiple

1:06:53retail restaurant spaces. I like I like

1:06:56all that. The only thing I'm hoping to

1:06:58see, which I don't think we've gotten

1:06:59there yet, is the activation of like

1:07:02Riverside. Um I don't know if we do that

1:07:04on top of the parking garage. I don't

1:07:06know if you do that on top of the town

1:07:08homes. I don't think that that's

1:07:10possible, but

1:07:12I think it's pretty important and it's a

1:07:14gym that we need to activate.

1:07:16>> Yeah. So, Jim, I'll go back.

1:07:19We're still very much in this. We talked

1:07:22about

1:07:23>> the three levels the foundry, I mean the

1:07:26chemistry. Yep.

1:07:27>> And how to somehow or another respond to

1:07:29what we heard from

1:07:31>> this committee and other people. How do

1:07:32we get the CBD more connected? Well, the

1:07:35idea of course is this idea of this kind

1:07:38of and I call it the digital archway

1:07:40that would bring us down to a series of

1:07:43escalators that would bring us down that

1:07:45ultimately would come down to a river

1:07:46plaza that would ultimately connect

1:07:48Willow Street.

1:07:50>> The uh the idea of this ride share um is

1:07:54also one of those uh um important

1:07:57concepts of how to change the look of

1:07:59that street right now because it it's

1:08:01not inviting but we want it to be in the

1:08:03fire department. And there's also

1:08:05another vertical element here too that

1:08:06has yet to be fully explored. But we're

1:08:09in the process of continuously thinking

1:08:11about how do we do those kind of rice

1:08:14patty ways of looking at each one of the

1:08:17streets but also how it addresses the

1:08:20topography from the CBD down to the

1:08:22river itself.

1:08:23>> Well, from one thing if we're getting on

1:08:27the viability of of businesses and and

1:08:30sustainable retail, I mean that needs to

1:08:32be studied first. That's I mean this is

1:08:34a multi thing. We think the viability is

1:08:37much more immediate at this elevation

1:08:41a little bit more questionable but you

1:08:43know long term if that's going to be one

1:08:45of those things

1:08:47with the plas

1:08:49focused in the area nice you know u

1:08:54well landscape nice environment you know

1:08:56just a general benefit

1:09:01let's look is there any other render so

1:09:03yeah there are

1:09:06just probably

1:09:14sit and watch

1:09:16>> concerts here or you can get boost gang

1:09:21days you could have.

1:09:22>> Oh, they there were wrestlers out there

1:09:23too long they were promoting the event

1:09:27but they had their they were doing

1:09:29little

1:09:29>> WWE.

1:09:30>> Yeah. Yeah. Or I don't know what screw

1:09:32but yeah that

1:09:42So, we'd really love to have some of

1:09:43y'all's thoughts because one of the

1:09:45things we want to do is as we move

1:09:47forward, I want to know what y'all's

1:09:49reaction is. None of us

1:09:53there should be a

1:09:56button.

1:10:01Yeah,

1:10:02>> I think it creates it creates a a a

1:10:05place that didn't exist.

1:10:07>> It's another programmable space.

1:10:10>> That that is the focal point that makes

1:10:13everything else real. I think I think

1:10:16you're drawing families that otherwise

1:10:18wouldn't be visiting. You know, it's

1:10:20it's feeding a whole new demographic. I

1:10:22think people I think the thing that was

1:10:24kind of a aha moment was the sizing of

1:10:27it because we studied the battery. We

1:10:30studied 10 or 12 other, you know,

1:10:32entertainment plazas. I mean, we've got

1:10:35a project down in Tampa. This is 37,000

1:10:38square feet. It's a big several

1:10:41hundred,000 square foot retail facility

1:10:44and it's got a 5,000 foot little

1:10:46footprint and then maybe 20,000 square

1:10:49feet on top of it. And it's plenty, you

1:10:51know, and it gets activated and it feels

1:10:53full and it feels energetic. So we think

1:10:57the sizing of this really unlocked a lot

1:11:00of

1:11:02>> I think that image alone helps sell

1:11:06>> Chris Kindle market got me too David

1:11:07Riley

1:11:11>> that's the bike person

1:11:12>> yeah I can see that as great use

1:11:15creating an event for by itself just

1:11:17because big to do this

1:11:22>> there's something about the combination

1:11:23I think of the lighting elements And

1:11:25then even some of the architectural

1:11:27treatments like the sort of awnings and

1:11:30kind of stage roofs that that that

1:11:32together is sort of a magnet that that I

1:11:35really appreciate about the sequence

1:11:37that we've been looking at.

1:11:38>> Yeah. Can you go back to the previous

1:11:39slide? I mean that one just

1:11:43I just want to say thanks for listening.

1:11:51But that's exactly what I heard

1:11:53everybody say was required to be able to

1:11:56make this thing pop

1:11:59work. And you even listen to

1:12:03pedestrian access and how people get

1:12:06downtown all the way down.

1:12:10I think it's really and then even

1:12:12thinking about correlation with events

1:12:14that are happening at the arena.

1:12:16>> You know this is great pre-unction and

1:12:18post function space. You know, it's

1:12:20great when you've got, you know, sold

1:12:22out headliner, you got widespread

1:12:23inside, and then, you know, future birds

1:12:26are out here doing the pre-show.

1:12:28>> Yeah.

1:12:37>> We had so many discussions about so many

1:12:39things, but you think this escalator

1:12:41concept is viable?

1:12:44>> Absolutely. I think it's the best. So,

1:12:46because if it's an elevator, people are

1:12:48going to get frustrated

1:12:52with the escalator. They feel like it's

1:12:54continuous movement.

1:12:56>> It cost me a lot in the way of

1:12:57maintenance of the

1:12:59back.

1:13:00>> But it's so worth it in this

1:13:02environment. We give you back a couple

1:13:04of

1:13:13>> So, so one of the things that we want to

1:13:15try to set up and explore a little bit

1:13:16more is having that people walk down

1:13:20this, you know, digital archway. I'm

1:13:22sorry, I'm going to keep calling it

1:13:23that. and having kind of a an experience

1:13:26here, a nodule that gives them a visual

1:13:29connection back down to the plaza so

1:13:31that when they get to that point, they

1:13:33can immediately see down to the plaza

1:13:35and where they're going. And maybe even

1:13:38I know sometimes there's some trees

1:13:41here, but maybe creating a way in which

1:13:43people can connect the vertical and the

1:13:45horizontal together so that there's a

1:13:48destination. And that's the idea behind

1:13:51escalators.

1:13:53And it's we've heard many times before

1:13:56people will walk down a set of steps but

1:13:58they won't want to walk back up. So the

1:14:00escalator tries to address that issue.

1:14:03So that's the idea behind the escalator

1:14:05piece to it. I think one of the

1:14:07challenges though with that stage is the

1:14:11lower the riverside activation

1:14:14off the views

1:14:15>> like of course I'm thinking about

1:14:16Greenville but the peace center the way

1:14:17they originally built it it was sort of

1:14:19like walked up to it and it had this

1:14:21beautiful structure and then it was

1:14:23behind and over the years they ended up

1:14:25taking out that structure because it

1:14:26really like separated it from

1:14:28>> couldn't be reversed so

1:14:30>> yeah he just said as long as it's not

1:14:31sort of like a wall that's

1:14:35>> it would I equally viable.

1:14:38That's amazing about that future works.

1:14:41Why not?

1:14:42>> So, John,

1:14:44>> but again, this is the idea of taking

1:14:46maybe a little bit of license with

1:14:49foundry when it gets closed to actually,

1:14:52>> you know, to

1:14:58mutual and and potentially engage on

1:15:01this side

1:15:03as well. Sorry, John. Um Paul had a

1:15:07question about the maintenance of the um

1:15:11escalator. So this area will be managed

1:15:15by the classes. Correct.

1:15:17>> I mean that's something

1:15:19space.

1:15:20>> Well like but like if you had a concert

1:15:24out there what I'm thinking is is it

1:15:26revenue potential for the classic center

1:15:28with you know when you're having the

1:15:30holiday stuff you have to have vendors

1:15:31and all that. So

1:15:32>> yeah you need somebody to program it.

1:15:35be in charge of that

1:15:38>> class.

1:15:38>> Yeah.

1:15:39>> I guess that's really not all but I

1:15:42would think classes. Yes.

1:15:44>> And on the note of what Tess was saying

1:15:45and it could be just for loading and

1:15:48loading on a stage that it's closer to

1:15:50the road but but you know with with the

1:15:52food trucks but if you go to the picture

1:15:55I don't know pick the Christmas one or

1:15:57the dancing one of that same year.

1:15:59Either one but up high that's a good

1:16:01one. I I mean to me like Red Rocks,

1:16:05you're looking the the stage, you've got

1:16:07the sunset behind you type thing. So

1:16:10there's a point to where who do you want

1:16:12to have the better view, the audience or

1:16:14the band? But um but what I'm saying

1:16:16thinking up there on the right where the

1:16:18umbrellas are, isn't that isn't that

1:16:22>> a river view right there? As long as as

1:16:25long as the plan continues to not be

1:16:28higher upstairs,

1:16:29>> it won't be higher. And I do agree with

1:16:32your strategy of the parking deck being

1:16:34the same level as the current one.

1:16:36>> I think that's gonna again where you're

1:16:39people are walking in that direction.

1:16:40They're hitting they're getting more

1:16:42excited if it's about where they're

1:16:45headed and they can either go to that

1:16:47point position that top part above the

1:16:49umbrellas parking upper parking.

1:16:51>> Yeah. So this

1:16:53>> Yeah. So you've got you could have for

1:16:55another rendering you could have people

1:16:57standing up there too

1:16:58>> um and enjoying it. Yes.

1:17:02>> So that's really an active area, too. So

1:17:04people that didn't choose to start going

1:17:06down could be up there waiting.

1:17:08>> Yeah, you could put a food and drink

1:17:10truck up there and

1:17:12>> concert

1:17:14that. But um I also uh did look at the

1:17:18the escalators over on the student side

1:17:20of of Stanford recently uh for the

1:17:23soccer game. We saw them in there. But

1:17:25anyway,

1:17:25>> so I was really against those escalators

1:17:27when we did that. Now I'm sold

1:17:31ideal

1:17:47engaging on the west coast.

1:17:50>> Doesn't rain and it's super dry.

1:17:53>> I don't really see too many.

1:17:58It's still going to get wet because rain

1:17:59goes everywhere. That's the thing.

1:18:01>> And that's exactly what happened at the

1:18:02Navy.

1:18:04Yeah.

1:18:06>> Yeah. They were

1:18:10pushing the water out of the way for you

1:18:12to walk up on the escalator.

1:18:14>> Yeah.

1:18:15>> Good thing about escalators. It's just

1:18:17stairs.

1:18:26No, because the escalator breaks, it's

1:18:28stairs.

1:18:28>> Okay. I'm seeing at airports, you know,

1:18:30it's obviously because I always take the

1:18:31stairs to prove something

1:18:36like the escalator,

1:18:39>> you have the fridge and that's all

1:18:42>> refined. It's a great

1:18:45conversation. We go back to answer to

1:18:47the question that one of the plans

1:18:51or the plan views

1:18:53hitting keep on

1:18:56keep

1:18:59>> well that's fine

1:19:00>> the idea behind this right there

1:19:04>> um it this kind of thing we call the

1:19:06digital archway is a connection from

1:19:09Jackson Street across that potentially

1:19:13has uh you LED light cylinder

1:19:17>> from Washington.

1:19:19>> Yeah.

1:19:21>> Yeah.

1:19:21>> So the idea is that that is covered but

1:19:24it also becomes part of the

1:19:26entertainment experience as you're going

1:19:27to to it where you might have the if

1:19:30you're having a REMM concert you have

1:19:33music playing or you have you know

1:19:35images across the top of it so that it

1:19:38becomes also that visual link to the

1:19:40downtown

1:19:41>> which right now does it's not that's not

1:19:44it.

1:19:44>> Yes.

1:19:45Well, and and that you take take the

1:19:47bubble over pars it and they change

1:19:50those colors.

1:19:52>> Oh,

1:19:53>> they had people stuff in there, too. You

1:19:55know,

1:19:55>> I mean, what's like the the stage areas

1:19:58being a little bit like wire park, like

1:20:01people just get together to watch,

1:20:02>> right,

1:20:03>> the World Cup, the World Cup or the

1:20:05Super Bowl or people who don't have

1:20:07tickets to the game but want to be like

1:20:09in a social space to watch the game.

1:20:12>> Okay. I think I think you're excited,

1:20:13right? It brings people to

1:20:15>> I mean that's the nice thing about it is

1:20:16not everything will be picketed you know

1:20:19but there may be food trucks and things

1:20:20like that and in that sense it it it

1:20:23offers options downtown like revenuewise

1:20:26but also just gathering spacewise

1:20:29>> as a parent with young kids I would

1:20:30probably be if I'm not going against the

1:20:32game

1:20:33>> yeah

1:20:35just

1:20:38in the in the whole I mean I realize

1:20:40we're just in the infancy stages here

1:20:42but in the in the phased construction

1:20:46process where would this be?

1:20:48>> So this would be uh you know obviously

1:20:51funding uh we're saying it's something

1:20:53that we need to work through it

1:20:55logistically would make the most sense

1:20:57as we were expanding the deck

1:20:58>> to be able to pour that platform

1:21:00alongside it.

1:21:01>> Right. Right. But one of the other

1:21:03things about the programming for the

1:21:05space is when it's not programmed

1:21:08>> is, you know, because one of the

1:21:09challenges with the classic center

1:21:10campus is it's it's it's building this

1:21:14insular thing and so we were trying to

1:21:15with these designs to break that so you

1:21:18have access through it. Um, I know this

1:21:21is going to be a logistical decision as

1:21:23well for maintenance and programs if you

1:21:25guys control or what, but is the

1:21:27thinking that this would be a legitimate

1:21:29way when nothing's going on for somebody

1:21:31to get to their town home

1:21:32>> off of Washington.

1:21:34>> Yeah.

1:21:35>> Like you don't have to go abroad, you

1:21:36don't have to go

1:21:39of what it does for people down there

1:21:41and towns and everybody else.

1:21:43>> I think it's a key natural

1:21:45>> Yeah.

1:21:47how I would my first thoughts go

1:21:51this was an option but

1:21:54restaurant

1:21:56>> yes it was 10,000 total square feet all

1:22:00the way through this is always intended

1:22:02for the public it's not a spot but we

1:22:03shut down we did not do a retail

1:22:07feasibility study that's why we're

1:22:10trying to flush

1:22:12gauge interest on it

1:22:13>> this space even taking a conference look

1:22:16at Yeah, kind of needs to integrate

1:22:19throughout.

1:22:20>> Whereas if we did a thing in a vacuum,

1:22:22you're not going to get that kind of

1:22:23integration. So I think that's the

1:22:25>> maybe we need to go back to that river

1:22:27>> potentially.

1:22:29>> It's a P3. It depends on the final

1:22:31structure, but it could end up being ACC

1:22:34owns and leases it

1:22:35>> to whoever.

1:22:41I'm looking for the overall concept.

1:22:46They're right here. That's good. So, so

1:22:49like like we said, there's risk

1:22:51elevation.

1:22:55>> Yeah. I uh hate to say, but um and I

1:22:58know folks are going to have to leave

1:22:59here momentarily. Could could we wrap in

1:23:02just two minutes and we've got to do a

1:23:03couple logistical things to plan the

1:23:04next meeting.

1:23:06>> Thank you guys so very, you know, to

1:23:09close it out. I mean, are we going I

1:23:12mean, is to get consensus sort of at the

1:23:14end of this first phase as we launch

1:23:16into the next I mean, is this

1:23:18>> are we I don't know if there's some sort

1:23:19of way to make it.

1:23:21>> You're on the right.

1:23:22>> Okay.

1:23:22>> Yeah. I mean, I I think that the

1:23:24connectivity and sort of the visual flow

1:23:26from all the way up at Thomas Street to

1:23:28the river continues to be important and

1:23:30I think this is gone a large I mean, I

1:23:32think I'm speaking for the room to say

1:23:33this gone a large way uh to to gaining

1:23:36that sort of link.

1:23:38>> Yeah. Yeah. And and the the the part I

1:23:41was saying about the, you know, the

1:23:43community, there's going to be the

1:23:44private part, the stuff you have to pay

1:23:46to be at, and there's a community part.

1:23:48And I think that you've got the

1:23:49community part throughout it for

1:23:52transportation,

1:23:54logistics, and sitting down and then

1:23:57becoming a patron. Maybe I think

1:24:00>> I think I think you did great.

1:24:04>> We're trying to schedule the next

1:24:06meeting sooner rather than later. So

1:24:08something in the three-w weekek outlook

1:24:10um because at that meeting gonna talk to

1:24:12us a little bit more about kind of how

1:24:14some of this correlates uh with our

1:24:16general code contours um and then that

1:24:18will prep us also for the commission the

1:24:20full commission work session would be

1:24:22the second Tuesday of October.

1:24:23>> That'll be on the 13th. Do we want to

1:24:25try to look at I know it's closed but

1:24:26the week of the

1:24:29because the work session will be Tuesday

1:24:31the 13th and I'll send um Andrea I'll

1:24:34send you the information so you can

1:24:35share it with the whole team but um

1:24:38it'll be Tuesday October 13th starting

1:24:41at 1.

1:24:43>> That's the work session.

1:24:44>> That'll be the work session. But but I'm

1:24:46just thinking it might be helpful for

1:24:47this group to potentially meet before

1:24:50that because Bruce will share uh kind of

1:24:53some overviews of what a um a design

1:24:56overlay would be. And so that might then

1:25:00>> well and I saw in your timeline you had

1:25:02a 30 day window that's assumed starts

1:25:05now for coordination of infrastructure

1:25:09questions and things like that. So,

1:25:11would it be helpful coming out of that

1:25:1330-day period?

1:25:15>> It would be nice to have I mean, it

1:25:17depends on what we want to accomplish

1:25:18for this group.

1:25:21>> The more the better, longer.

1:25:23>> I mean, we have the civil work going on

1:25:24right now, so it' be nice to have

1:25:27discussion after they've had a chance to

1:25:29look at the detention. That would really

1:25:31be helpful, I think.

1:25:32>> Will y'all have enough time to get the

1:25:35feasibility stuff, those studies done?

1:25:36Is that that's because that's really the

1:25:38catalyst of the next meeting to see okay

1:25:40these are great but can it is it viable?

1:25:43Yeah.

1:25:43>> So and I think we need to have those

1:25:45answers before we have a work session.

1:25:47>> We'll just have to think a couple of

1:25:48things. One because the way that the

1:25:50work session presentations go they

1:25:52present to the manager's office for

1:25:54feedback usually three to four weeks in

1:25:57advance. So that's coming up really. You

1:25:59see what I'm saying? like the progress

1:26:01may move but then the presentation will

1:26:03already be in packets and posted.

1:26:07>> See, so on that piece once the that

1:26:10presentation for the work session is

1:26:11there, it can't be moving until the

1:26:13morning of the work session to present,

1:26:16it'll be going through the manager's

1:26:18office for some feedback. It'll go into

1:26:20the packet and be presented for the

1:26:22public and then the work session will

1:26:23happen. See what I'm saying? So

1:26:25>> the feasibility stuff

1:26:27>> I don't think it will make it into the

1:26:29work session.

1:26:30>> Yeah,

1:26:30>> we can have it by our next meeting, but

1:26:32that doesn't mean it's in the next

1:26:34presentation.

1:26:35>> That's sort of

1:26:36me. I think what

1:26:38>> that's a date for it.

1:26:39>> That's to me. Yeah, that to me is like

1:26:41that's the end note of this next phase.

1:26:44>> So if you're saying we need to meet

1:26:46three weeks before the work

1:26:51be helpful. Yeah. be able to Yeah.

1:26:55>> So, so what is the 7th of October at 10

1:26:58o'clock?

1:26:59>> The class center authority has their

1:27:00board retreat.

1:27:02>> So that

1:27:05so we're meeting before but the

1:27:07presentation's already turned in is what

1:27:08you're saying.

1:27:10>> Well, I don't know.

1:27:11>> Go through and verify.

1:27:12>> Are we talking about the financial?

1:27:14>> You've got two things. One is you've got

1:27:16a presentation to catch the entire mayor

1:27:18and commission up on the work of this.

1:27:21>> Pretty much this stuff, right? We're not

1:27:23talking about a change.

1:27:24>> That's what I would think. But in the

1:27:26meantime, the conversation with this

1:27:28group needs to keep kind of moving

1:27:30along, right? Because you're on a

1:27:31schedule. We're on a schedule. We're all

1:27:33on a schedule.

1:27:34>> So, it's just sort of thinking those

1:27:35pieces through.

1:27:37>> How's Friday the 9th at 10?

1:27:39>> I'm tied at 79.

1:27:43>> The eth. How about the eth?

1:27:45>> 89. That's what

1:27:46>> Oh, seventh.

1:27:47>> What about

1:27:50the

1:27:50>> Monday?

1:27:53up here.

1:27:55>> How's that 9:30 on Monday the 5th?

1:28:02>> Yes.

1:28:02>> Okay. So, Monday, October 5th for me, if

1:28:05we're doing the same presentation,

1:28:07>> 9:30 a.m.

1:28:09>> No, Monday, Octo Yeah. October 5th is us

1:28:12meeting.

1:28:13>> So, that's this group. And then the work

1:28:15session for the entire mirroring

1:28:17commission is October the 13th. It

1:28:19starts at 1.

1:28:20>> Does that involve us?

1:28:21I I think it probably it might be

1:28:25>> Trey and Andrea would be my guess or

1:28:27whoever

1:28:27>> you're out of the country because it's

1:28:28fall break for APS,

1:28:30>> right? So maybe it's Yeah, it's somebody

1:28:33from your team. Maybe one or two, but it

1:28:35probably won't be all eight of you. But

1:28:37I think

1:28:38>> we need they can be there though because

1:28:41I think their input to the group I don't

1:28:46>> see what

1:28:46>> I think we need to schedule the work

1:28:48session and they can be there because

1:28:50maybe to bump it to November.

1:28:51>> I don't know. I'm just saying what their

1:28:53parts are. We can't answer all the

1:28:55questions and what they're saying I

1:28:56think is vital to the work.

1:28:57>> I think you know I think November is

1:28:59fine too. You know, we we obviously just

1:29:01want to kind of line this up because

1:29:02their goal was December commission

1:29:05affirmation of the master plan cons.

1:29:08>> So, so the the work session for you guys

1:29:11to share with the whole mayor commission

1:29:13would then be

1:29:14>> Okay.

1:29:15>> November 10th.

1:29:16>> Yeah.

1:29:17>> At noon

1:29:17>> and then agenda setting would be the

1:29:19next week. But they don't have to be.

1:29:22>> Okay. Is that much better? Yeah, I think

1:29:24it makes

1:29:26that

1:29:28>> and we're looking for a contest

1:29:30agreement

1:29:34move on the fifth.

1:29:35>> Uh let's stick for that Friday or excuse

1:29:38me that Monday.

1:29:39>> Monday the 5th.

1:29:41>> Monday the 5th.

1:29:42>> Okay. So our next meeting as this group

1:29:44will be Monday, October 5th at 9:30.

1:29:47>> 9:30.

1:29:48>> Oh.

1:29:49>> Well, if we don't have the 13th as a as

1:29:51a target.

1:29:52>> That's right. That's right.

1:29:54>> So, we could push that fifth meeting for

1:29:56the following week, which may give us

1:29:58another week of what is

1:30:00>> sounds like the mayor would love it if

1:30:02it was October 5th.

1:30:03>> No, I mean, I I could do the next week,

1:30:04too. We could do like

1:30:06>> I could do the 12th at 9:30 or the 14th.

1:30:11>> That's But the whole reason we moved is

1:30:12because we'll be out of town that week.

1:30:14>> So, now we're back to October 12th.

1:30:17>> Veterans.

1:30:17>> So, the week of the night of the 12th,

1:30:19that's not an option.

1:30:20>> Yeah.

1:30:21>> Okay. Okay.

1:30:21>> So, either the week or the 5th or the

1:30:22week of the 19th. So,

1:30:24>> yeah, week of the 19th is good, too.

1:30:25Okay.

1:30:26>> All right. Let's Wednesday the 21st.

1:30:29>> That's

1:30:31>> Wednesday the 21st.

1:30:34October.

1:30:36Jumping around on me here.

1:30:39>> Wednesday.

1:30:41>> 10 o'clock.

1:30:43>> Is 10 o'clock for you guys at

1:30:46>> very

1:30:49late. Yeah.

1:30:52>> N that's completely

1:30:53>> we're going against traffic coming out

1:30:55of here.

1:30:57>> We say are we saying the 21st 21st

1:31:01>> Wednesday after 21st.

1:31:03>> Okay. That's great.

1:31:05>> All right. Uh everybody motion to

1:31:07adjurnn.

1:31:07>> So move.

1:31:09>> Is there a second?

1:31:09>> Second.

1:31:10>> All in favor?

1:31:11>> All right. Amen.

1:31:15>> We get

1:31:18as bold. Will you make sure you got the

1:31:21presentation?

1:31:21>> Yes, I was just about to check you.

1:31:24>> I know. Once I get on, I can get

1:31:27>> Okay. Yeah.

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