2026-10-19 - Newton Bridge TAD Advisory Committee

20:49You good?

20:50>> Yes, ma'am.

20:54>> My lady,

20:56>> I'd like to call this meeting to order.

21:03>> Still call

21:06it.

21:09We don't have a quorum.

21:13>> Um, yes, ma'am. Since we don't have a

21:14quorum, uh, we won't be there's no need

21:17to keep official minutes. We can't

21:18conduct any business, so we cannot

21:19approve the agenda today. Uh, if you

21:22would like to, we can still discuss

21:23those topics. Um, I won't keep official

21:26minutes, but if there's anything you

21:28need me to look into for the next

21:30meeting, um, I do have a question for

21:32you about that next meeting, but, uh, we

21:35can wait till we go through the the

21:36agenda if you prefer.

21:41Um my thought is let's get an update on

21:44transportation orders that

21:48Bruce

21:52>> anything he's got.

21:55>> Cool. Thank you. Um well some of these

21:59things some of you might know. Um well,

22:02first of all, before I overlook it, at

22:04the bottom of the agenda, uh we now post

22:06the uh the account balance. Um going

22:10forward, the finance department will

22:12update us with that uh twice a year.

22:15Really, most of the activity comes this

22:17time of year when all the property taxes

22:18come in, but of course, it might change

22:20because of of anything like paying for

22:22that transportation corridor study um or

22:25any people um who maybe want to appeal

22:28their their taxes. So little changes

22:31could occur but it's it's all going to

22:32be very minor. So two times a year it'll

22:34be updated to the public website and

22:35it'll be posted on the agendas as we

22:37meet. Um transportation corridor study.

22:40So currently uh transportation public

22:42works TPW uh is hosting meetings really

22:46with staff um between staff and then

22:48Atlas engineering. And so we're meeting

22:50about every other week in some capacity

22:53to talk about the corridor study and

22:55where it is. Um,

22:58and excuse me, I thought we weren't

22:59going to have internet in the room, so I

23:01even had my hot spot ready to go. Uh,

23:04but so the corridor 32, right now we're

23:07looking at a 5-ft sidewalk along the

23:10west side of New Bridge Road and

23:13continuing with the the west clocks and

23:15the flats, they have that 12oot

23:16multi-use path. Um, so they're looking

23:18at proposing that all the length. Uh and

23:21then of course there's going to be uh

23:23the roundabout up by Vincent Drive and

23:25that's proposed by the uh due south

23:28project which is on the east. And then

23:30there's a question of whether we

23:32recommend a excuse me the study

23:35recommends um either the roundabout or

23:38the traffic light in Cathwood. But

23:40what's really neat is as we're having

23:42all these conversations um and as I said

23:44about every other week uh we'll talk to

23:47transit. So transit might tell us what

23:49best practices are for a a transit stop

23:52uh around a roundabout. So it's maybe

23:54not best to put a transit stop as you

23:56exit a roundabout because then the bus

23:58stops, traffic backs up into the

24:00roundabout. Things like that, things

24:02that really make sense, but I certainly

24:04wouldn't have thought of. Uh damaged

24:06coververts, I think those are in your

24:08minutes. Um things that we want to look

24:10at. Uh tearing things. So whereas we

24:14could probably do restriping in a road

24:16diet which seems to be recommended in

24:18both concepts

24:19um installing like carbon gutter along

24:22the length of it. One of the

24:24recommendations in the study is to do

24:26certain retaining walls specifically on

24:28the um uh the western length of Newton

24:31Bridge Road. Retaining walls are costly,

24:34but they're also they require their own

24:36set of maintenance. So you know

24:38alternatives to to whether we have to do

24:40those things. So there's all sorts of

24:42stuff and then it could be like tiered

24:43on schedule. The good news about that is

24:45I think the restriping could probably be

24:47expedited or on the front end.

24:50>> So that's really good. Uh as I said

24:51earlier, rumble strips will probably not

24:53be recommended. Most uh for two reasons

24:55because they they take up space and

24:57right now this study has the 5 foot to

24:5912 foot multi-use path, 5 foot sidewalk

25:02uh bike lanes on our side and the center

25:04turn lane um and also the noise in

25:07residential areas. And so as I kind of

25:10realized that like yeah I see rumble

25:11strips on highways all the time. Um so

25:14those are all the conversations we're

25:15having. Even like leisure services is in

25:16it, emergency services is in it and

25:18talking about uh medians and and uh

25:21access to fire hydrants and medians

25:25obstructing access to fire hydrants. So

25:26all sorts of little details that we're

25:28just going over. We'll bring it back to

25:30Atlas have more questions. Bring it back

25:32to the staff.

25:34So hopefully what will happen is um

25:38whether it's this month or next month or

25:40soon Atlas will bring us two concepts.

25:43Uh at that time our transportation

25:45public works staff is going to start to

25:46look at those two concepts. We are going

25:48to post all this information on the

25:50website and do a web page probably from

25:51the transportation public works web page

25:54um uh with some of these documents that

25:57you have seen and some of these

25:58documents that are forthcoming. Um, and

26:01we'll probably do some uh we'll do an

26:03open house um [clears throat] just to

26:05get some some public input or or answer

26:07any questions that they may have. TPW

26:10will then come back with their

26:12recommendations, bring it to this

26:14committee where this committee uh wants

26:16to write a letter of support or letter

26:18of modification to accompany that. And

26:20we'll bring that final product to the

26:22mayor and commission hopefully to vote

26:24on accepting or approving the final plan

26:27that we've all settled on. uh and then

26:30hopefully we can start to find what the

26:32funding mechanisms will be for all of

26:34those things.

26:36So it is moving forward even if you

26:39don't see it every day. There's

26:40>> can we stripe it before funding?

26:43>> Can we stripe it before funding?

26:45>> Yeah. Seems like there's a process there

26:47getting through all this sort of okay

26:49this is our plan and then what we're

26:50going to do pending funding. But when

26:53when can we do the the striping I guess

26:55is my point. And you're thinking the

26:56road diet striping

26:59>> because that's what I'm saying when I

27:00when I say that the

27:01>> restriping is well that and the lighting

27:04thing that we sort of talked about is

27:06hey we get some lighting out there those

27:08two things if those aren't dependent on

27:10the master you know funding for all of

27:13this can we move in funding for those

27:15>> so right now the thing that's going to

27:17be approved is sort of the plan

27:20which would funding or not and whether

27:23we say the TAD funds could be used or if

27:24TPW has something it's It's really

27:26getting the permission to do the road

27:28diet as well as everything else.

27:30>> No, we can't can't strive until it's

27:32approved.

27:34>> Yeah.

27:35>> And

27:37the approval process we're hoping is

27:43year and a half.

27:44>> Well, not it shouldn't be a year and a

27:45half.

27:47>> Okay.

27:47>> When is Atlas submitting the two plans?

27:53>> At one time it was going to be October.

27:55It it may still be before the end of

27:57this month, but it's probably going to

27:59be pushed back possibly November pro

28:02probably before the end of the calendar

28:03year. And I'm going to say that it's

28:06really it's it's staff's responsibility

28:08that's been pushed back at this time

28:10because we we're having all these

28:11conversations to really make something,

28:14you know, as effective as we can. So

28:18Atlas is just about good to go. They

28:20just keep waiting on us to to provide

28:21more and more feedback.

28:26And then you were talking about uh

28:30retaining walls. Is that would that be

28:32like right in this area?

28:35>> Um

28:38let me go to

28:49feel like dairy pack and I feel like

28:52that does there's an embankment.

28:54>> Yeah.

28:56Um I'll bet it's for

29:03>> Yeah.

29:05>> So, okay. I was looking for something

29:07different. Um

29:09>> it I was I was driving out there

29:11yesterday and I was like, "Oh, it would

29:12be nice to somehow like

29:15since there is stuff happening to make

29:17it be connected to Barber a little bit

29:21more safely.

29:28There's not like any sidewalk that

29:31extends. There's like a little gap in

29:33the sidewalk.

29:34>> Yep.

29:36>> Make it more bikable. Something cool is

29:38going to happen.

29:39>> It looks like there's a pretty lengthy

29:41one um just north of the the north

29:44Paradise Boulevard going up towards

29:46Fritzmore

29:47>> starting closer to the Paradise

29:49Boulevard, stopping short of Fritzmore.

29:52um almost the entire length of power

29:54building. Okay.

29:57>> So that's over here. Um there's another

29:59one uh just north of Fritz Mar

30:05that parcel.

30:07>> Are they in order to make a road liner

30:13>> or what is the purpose of the retaining

30:15wall?

30:16>> That is a great question. I think it

30:18might be right of way to to do with

30:19installing the sidewalk.

30:20>> Okay. Okay. So, sidewalk would go from

30:24Jitter side and then it would

30:29>> stop

30:30>> or would it continue all the way?

30:33>> Well, the whole agreement uh the whole

30:36study ends at uh

30:40industrial what is that? Industrial

30:42Boulevard Newton Industrial

30:46uh across from Holl Youth. And so the

30:48sidewalk is proposed

30:50the entire length of that

30:52>> to the to the um sports complex.

30:57>> Yeah, we're trying to connect up there

30:59with sidewalk in terms of what would

31:01happen down here. We don't know.

31:02>> Yeah,

31:03>> but there is a I mean to the point there

31:06being is there's like a moat between

31:10where my office is here basically and

31:13till you get to West Fox.

31:16Yeah, that's what I was curious that if

31:18there was any intention to that.

31:20>> So the proposals for these for this

31:23study is is the multiuse and the

31:25sidewalks will go from uh from this

31:28intersection with

31:30>> Barber. Yeah.

31:32>> From that intersection to

31:35>> bridge industrial.

31:36>> Yeah. So we're haven't completed all but

31:40yeah

31:41>> and then we've got those other projects

31:43and I think G dot is doing the other

31:45projects. There's like three projects

31:47going on right down there should

31:50anticipated asking that

31:54>> yeah it does leave that kind of we

31:56talking about but by the same token we

31:59we've got a plan approved you know to go

32:02in and say hey we need to let this area

32:04keep moving but

32:06as as funds become available,

32:09let's take that road and extend it from

32:13case to once you get to the loop it's

32:17conricted because of the bridge,

32:18>> right?

32:18>> And it kind of slows down naturally

32:20there. Then you got this right when you

32:22come out bridge is huge,

32:24>> right?

32:25>> So just cut that down two lanes.

32:34We will have slowed down traffic in the

32:37speed zone and we will have made it

32:39safer for people to drive to those

32:41intersections and for kids to walk to

32:43the public infrastructure we've got

32:45there. That's we also will have have

32:49proven that a tad can do something

32:51>> which is another big win for

32:55um cool thanks for the update.

32:57>> Yes sir.

32:58>> Good.

32:59>> Yeah.

33:02Could we uh Oh, team members.

33:06I don't

33:08It seems like there might be a little

33:09bit of uh

33:14information coming soon where it was

33:17halted. The team member

33:19>> Okay.

33:20>> recommendation was halted.

33:22>> Okay. Is that why we're not worried

33:24about adding more people right now?

33:26>> You know, more than me.

33:28>> Okay. Maybe the mayor is saying

33:32I mean, that was kind of when I

33:34approached

33:37when I when I approached the mayor uh

33:40about adding more. I think there were it

33:44was in talks of trying to figure it out.

33:46>> Okay.

33:46>> So,

33:48>> at this moment, they're not wanting to

33:49add anymore.

33:50>> Yep. All right. Then you had something

33:54else you want to add. Go ahead.

33:57>> Um,

33:59back when we had uh

34:02went from monthly meetings to um every

34:05quarter, uh, I kept the back half of the

34:08calendar um intact.

34:11In other words, keeping the monthly

34:12meeting schedule just because it was

34:14just too far out at the time. Uh, so at

34:16this time, I do have meetings scheduled

34:18for November 16th or at least on the

34:20calendar for November 16th. and again

34:22December 14th. Uh but

34:26um if you guys want to really formally

34:28switch to something quarterly or as one

34:32of the committees is even debating maybe

34:33going to as needed.

34:36>> We should keep everything.

34:38>> Yeah.

34:40>> Can we say do quarterly and hit January?

34:43But but also if there is a

34:47um

34:48if we can move forward with

34:52putting more people or can or working in

34:55collaboration with the other dads or

34:56whatever comes out of that the evolution

34:59of the structure

35:00>> or if the study comes back in October it

35:03would be good for us to meet lots of

35:04fresh.

35:05>> Yeah.

35:06>> So being the two triggers is change in

35:07people and the study.

35:09>> Agreed.

35:10>> Okay.

35:11>> Sure. And then

35:13>> so if you hear anything from Mayor Fish

35:16about the TAD structuring, would you

35:19call another meeting to to order to try

35:21to figure out or would that just be done

35:23with?

35:24>> No, I would I would reach out to you and

35:26see what you want to do.

35:29>> In most

35:33No, I'd get your permission and I would

35:35make it together.

35:37Yeah, I think we can leave it a little

35:39bit open-ended, but January,

35:43we would uh for sure.

35:46>> Is that okay with you, Daniel?

35:48>> Yes, it is. Thank you.

35:52>> Could we do a Wednesday like the 20th

35:55because Monday is a holiday and

35:59following day is

36:02national championship football game.

36:05I was so busy that day.

36:08>> I might do that.

36:10>> I'm just kidding.

36:12>> Yeah, you're work.

36:14>> The uh the reason we're meeting the

36:15third

36:20>> uh I guess I can I work here, I guess.

36:26>> Shortly in country. Oh, okay.

36:32Thought I reported it. Yeah,

36:37if I came from California,

36:41>> do you want me to It's It's Daniel

36:43Young.

36:44>> No, sir.

36:46>> Thank you.

36:46>> That's a dumb Thanks for having

36:51um the only reason we make Mondays at

36:533:15 is because that suited somebody

36:54who's since rolled off. So whatever

36:57you'll figure

36:59>> Wednesday's work I'm at the jail on

37:01Tuesday so I can't on Tuesdays a

37:03Wednesday unless they change my

37:07>> I try to do that Wednesday the 20th

37:12>> Wednesday the 20th at noon

37:16it's always hard for me

37:18>> oh I thought that's what you said

37:19Wednesday 20th when

37:24this time button

37:2613.

37:40So,

37:42the only thing I don't know, this is

37:44totally fine. I just don't know if this

37:46space is necessarily available.

37:49I'll

37:50>> see if you can find out in this 48

37:52video. Mhm.

37:56Okay. So, next meeting will be

37:57Wednesday, January 20th.

38:00>> Unless we get note about new members or

38:05we get uh updates on the studies.

38:10And what we mean by new members is

38:15anything having to do with new members

38:16or if there's an alternative plan for

38:19how there would be meetings with more

38:22people sitting around the table.

38:26Um, and then in terms of the study or

38:29the the project we're talking about,

38:31that would be any deliverable that's

38:34actually delivered a chance to go over

38:37it andor,

38:39you know, significant change as a result

38:41of

38:43like official changes or anything like

38:45that.

38:48>> Some of those things will probably just

38:49be, you know, communicated via email or

38:52whatever. and some of those things.

38:54Yeah. Absolutely. Get the band back

38:56together.

38:56>> Yeah. Because we get a report. I

38:58definitely think it makes sense.

39:01>> Yeah. Well, especially if Daniel like

39:03I'm sure there'll be a lot of engagement

39:05than other people.

39:09>> Maybe not.

39:12Probably be good if it's it's better to

39:14talk about it when it's fresh on

39:16somebody.

39:16>> Yeah. Yeah. I want to get it pretty

39:19soon. We want to move as quick as

39:22possible.

39:25>> All right.

39:28Okay. For this meeting to be adjourned

39:32with it, too. What about you, Daniel?

39:34>> Yes, please.

39:36>> All right.

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