2026-11-05 - Board of Adjustment

03:30Just just for everybody's information,

03:32until we can get to a quorum, we can't

03:33start the meeting. So, we need one more

03:35member to show up.

03:52This whole process

09:32Okay, we do have a quorum now. So, I

09:35will call the meeting to order. Welcome

09:38to the City of Oklahoma City Board of

09:40Adjustment meeting for November 5th,

09:422026.

09:43For anyone wishing to be heard besides

09:45the applicants, please fill out a white

09:47sheet found at the front desk and get it

09:50to a member of the staff

09:53if you have not already. The process for

09:56today's meeting will be as follows. Mrs.

09:58Leaken will call the case number. The

10:01applicant or the representative will be

10:02recognized to come to the podium. Please

10:04state your name and your home address

10:06and then begin explaining your

10:08application.

10:11Next item number two on the agenda is to

10:14receive the minutes from the previous

10:15meeting and there is a correction to the

10:17minutes and that has already been made.

10:21>> Motion to receive the October 15 2026

10:25meeting minutes uh with the corrections.

10:29>> Second.

10:30>> We have a motion and a second. Once

10:32you're able, please vote.

10:46I don't have a panel.

10:54We have a motion in a second.

11:02You have a panel.

11:04>> Me neither.

11:25>> Cindy, you want to call voice vote?

11:27>> Sure. Voice vote. Mr. Uday.

11:31>> Yes.

11:31>> Mr. Ceda.

11:33>> I.

11:34>> Mr. Noble.

11:35>> I

11:38was three. So, it's approved.

11:42>> That is approved.

11:43>> Not approved. Received. I'm sorry.

11:45>> Yes. And they are received. Minutes are

11:46received. Um, next item number three,

11:50continuence requests and withdrawal. The

11:52first item is request by the staff or

11:54the applicants. So we have item number

11:5726, case number 16376

12:00is deferred till December 5th, 2026. And

12:03item number 27, case number 16412 is

12:07deferred till December 5th, 2026.

12:15You do the other two 21

12:18>> Okay.

12:20>> Can I get a motion to approve the

12:21continuences? Uh motion to continue case

12:25number 16376

12:27to uh the December

12:31is it December 5th? Okay. December 5th

12:35uh 2026 uh meeting and motion to defer

12:39case number 16412 also to the December

12:435th 2026 meeting or minute

12:46>> second.

12:48I do believe it is December 3rd.

12:53>> Yeah.

12:55>> Is it third?

13:00>> All right. Correction to the December

13:023rd, 2026 meeting.

13:05>> So, we have a motion and a second.

13:09We will vote when we can. If we can.

13:20because the internet's down.

13:21>> Okay,

13:21>> we'll do voice vote. Mr. Uday,

13:23>> I

13:24>> Mr. Ceda

13:25>> I,

13:25>> Mr. Noble,

13:26>> I.

13:29>> Okay.

13:29>> And then the next will be uh continuence

13:33requests by the public.

13:36>> We have a new continuence. Item number

13:3821

13:39is deferred till January 7th, 27

13:44and that would be case number sorry

13:4916397.

13:53>> Can I give a motion on the new

13:55continuence?

13:55>> Yeah. Motion to continue case number

13:5716397 to the January 7th, 2027 meeting.

14:02>> Second.

14:04>> We have a motion and a second.

14:25All in favor?

14:27>> I

14:27>> I

14:30and that motion passes.

14:33Um, next, would there be any continuous

14:36requests from the public?

14:39Seeing none,

14:43we go to the consent docket. There isn't

14:45anything on the consent. So, we'll start

14:47with items requiring a separate vote.

14:49>> We have item number one, case number

14:5116402, is a request of David Box of Box

14:55Law Group on behalf of Steven Milton and

14:57Lisa K. Milton for a variance to maximum

15:00lot coverage located at 15404 Meadow

15:03Vista Drive.

15:04>> Good afternoon. David Box, 525 Northwest

15:0611th Street here. On behalf of the

15:08applicant, U. The nature of this request

15:10is to allow an expansion of the existing

15:13home. This is a bit of a unique one. I

15:15don't think I've seen one like this

15:16where the single family lot is actually

15:18split by two zoning designations. Uh

15:20it's an older PUD and portion of the PUD

15:23has R1, a portion of the PUD has R1ZL.

15:25And for whatever reason, when it all got

15:27platted, some of these lots have a

15:29portion of both of those. And the issue

15:32it creates is R1 has a 50% lot coverage.

15:34R1 ZL has no maximum lot coverage. So,

15:37um, we're kind of erroring on erroring

15:40on the side of caution by getting the

15:41variance. Uh, the total lot coverage in

15:44the after is 54.6 inclusive of all

15:47paving. And so, we think it's a minimal

15:50uh amount. It's a you got a unique

15:52situation in addition to what I

15:53mentioned about the split designations.

15:55You also have a creek in the in the back

15:57that really cuts at a pretty sharp angle

15:59thereby reducing um kind of our

16:01available lot to build on. So my client

16:05has spoken to all the people around him.

16:08If you looked at a broader uh section of

16:10this neighborhood, you'd see many other

16:12homes that are similar size after our

16:14expansion. So happy to answer any

16:16questions, ask for approval.

16:21What is the the total square footage of

16:25the new area? It says 705 in the report,

16:29but there's 782 that's listed.

16:32>> I don't know what that is. In the after,

16:33we're 54 point and some change. Um, and

16:37so again, R1 is 50% lock coverage. R1

16:41has no maximum lock coverage. So, I

16:43think it's a modest variance.

16:54It's an It's an increase the house size

16:56like 24%.

17:01It's It is strange. It's got a 5ft set

17:05back on one side and the other side. So,

17:09it looks like it was built R1ZL

17:11>> again.

17:12>> I tried to look it up also as far as on

17:13the zoning map. Couldn't figure that

17:16out. There was a question as to whether

17:18or not we even needed a variance. Um

17:21because if if you designated it as R1ZL

17:24then of course we don't need a variance.

17:26Um to avoid permitting problems it was

17:28suggested that we come seek the variance

17:30just to ensure that we're able to move

17:31forward through the permitting process.

17:34That's kind of why I was leaning towards

17:37approval for for me. Didn't like it if

17:40it was all single family homes and it

17:41was that much of a variance and this

17:43small of a lot. But some of these are

17:45built look like R1ZL and some of them

17:48aren't. And

17:48>> I know

17:50>> the only problem I have with it is the

17:52R1ZL while it doesn't specify a cap on

17:55the coverage, it does specify distances.

17:57And so it's an indirect way to get to

18:00the same thing that you just can't cover

18:02the whole lot. I'm going to support it

18:04simply based off of the fact of its

18:05close proximity to the creek because

18:07that's what the coverage ratio is there

18:09for is the amount of imperous surface

18:11and the amount of runoff as a result of

18:14that. I don't think that's a big issue

18:15because it should likely drain directly

18:17towards that creek. I will say just to

18:21be on the safe side, my recommendation

18:23is that you have your client um add

18:26gutters to this add-on and have the

18:29gutters rather than directed to any

18:31underground system that may or may not

18:32be there, go directly to the actual

18:37yard, which would be east of where this

18:40is built. That way, it just has some

18:42chance to absorb some of that additional

18:44runoff as a result of that that new

18:45structure being there.

18:47>> I'm not going to make it a requirement.

18:48Yeah, I'll pass it along.

18:49>> Yeah.

18:53>> All right. I'll make a motion then to

18:54approve case number 16402 for the

18:56purpose that it meets the statutory

18:58requirements for the requested variance.

19:01>> Second.

19:02>> We have a motion and a second.

19:09Just all in favor vote.

19:12>> Oh, okay. Did you guys get a panel?

19:15>> No.

19:25Thank you.

19:26>> Hold on.

19:29>> Oh, well,

19:30>> we do need actual vote.

19:31>> Vote. Yeah,

19:35>> I see. Passed.

19:36>> I see that. [laughter]

19:38I didn't remember voting.

19:41>> I knew I had you.

19:42>> It's meant to be.

19:45I felt good about it.

19:47>> So, Mr. Uday

19:49>> I

19:49>> Mr. Ceda

19:50>> I

19:51>> Mr. Noble

19:51>> I

19:52>> knew it.

19:54[laughter]

20:04Item number two, case number 16410 is a

20:08request of Brock and Mackenzie Pitman

20:10for a variance to the rear yard setback

20:12in the R1 district located at 15701

20:15Cambria Court.

20:17>> Uh good afternoon, Brock Pitman, 15701

20:21Cambria Court. I'm the applicant and

20:23then I have uh Mr. Wilkey here as well

20:26um representative today. Uh we're

20:29looking for a variance on this property

20:31um to build an outdoor living area and

20:35and pool area. Um it backs up to a green

20:38belt area, so there is some additional

20:40space back there, but uh the property

20:43line kind of restricts the uh the area

20:46to to put in the pool and and then we

20:48also have a drainage ditch there on um I

20:51believe the east side and then the west

20:53side uh we we have a neighbor's got a

20:56wall that is built up there. And so

20:58based on the uh kind of the alignment to

21:01get in a pool in an outdoor living area

21:04um kind of the setback from uh from the

21:06back of the property line, I think

21:08that's 10 ft. And we're looking to

21:10reduce that to a 5-ft variance in order

21:13to just be able to to place this

21:15structure in there and and have the pool

21:17kind of aligned appropriately. And so

21:19that would be our request today that the

21:21variance be uh allowed and passed that

21:25way we can get a pool permit to install

21:27this kind of outdoor living space.

21:32Thanks. And I'll say no one did sign up

21:34to speak on this. Uh I will also state

21:37that there was no objection to the

21:38variance

21:40um from any of the other departments

21:42including the development services or

21:44the utilities department.

21:46And this is one where we've granted

21:48variances to the neighboring properties

21:49as well.

21:50>> Both sides, I believe. Yeah. They all

21:52live in that same situation where the uh

21:56the sewer easement's right behind their

21:58houses and I they're they're still like

22:0015 feet away from where the sewer line

22:01is.

22:03>> And you all have uh no issues or

22:06objections from neighbors, the HOA,

22:08everybody's on board.

22:09>> That's correct. So, we've got approval

22:11from the HOA. Uh so, they they gave us

22:14that approval last week. I've spoken to

22:16the neighbors um kind of around on the

22:18east and west side. They're both in

22:20agreement. I believe as uh as Mr. Noble

22:23pointed out, I think both of them

22:24already have variances relating to their

22:26pool and then also an outdoor fireplace

22:29that was installed. One on the east and

22:31one on the west. And so we just ask the

22:33same here for this particular property.

22:37>> I'm good with it.

22:40>> Anything else? Ready for a motion?

22:43>> Yeah.

22:45Make a motion to approve case number

22:4716410 for the purpose that it meets the

22:50statuto requirements for the requested

22:51variance.

22:54>> Second.

22:55>> We have a motion and a second.

23:01[snorts]

23:02>> Okay.

23:02>> Mr. Uday.

23:03>> I.

23:04>> Mr. Ceda.

23:05>> I.

23:05>> Mr. Noble.

23:06>> Hi.

23:08>> Approve. Three to zero.

23:14And it passes.

23:15>> All right. Thank you.

23:16>> Thank you. May we be excused?

23:19>> Yes.

23:20>> Thank you.

23:20>> Item number three, case number 16406, is

23:23a request of Jamie Kimble on behalf of

23:25Capitol Hill Apartments LLC for variance

23:28to the dumpster placement regulations

23:30located at 404 Southwest Graham

23:33Boulevard.

23:35>> Good afternoon, chairman and board

23:37members. Thank you for the opportunity

23:38to present on our request for variance.

23:40Could you could you start with your name

23:41and address, please?

23:42>> Yes. Um, my name is Jamie Kimell. I'm

23:45representative for Capitol Hill

23:46Apartments located at 400 Southwest 404

23:50Southwest Grand and 3809 South Hudson

23:54Avenue.

23:56Uh, appreciate the opportunity to be

23:58able to request this variance for the

24:00placement and service location of the

24:02trash dumpster.

24:04Um the current situation

24:07with the the building building

24:10configuration and the layout of the

24:12property that's existing since the the

24:14construction in 1932

24:17is not conforming to current uh

24:20requirements and previously the

24:23apartments had individual trash

24:25receptacles. That's no longer being done

24:27by the city. So we we have a dumpster.

24:30There was a uh in the plan submittal

24:32process there was an approved location

24:34and we discovered uh once we had the

24:36dumpster placed that the existing

24:38overhead utility lines the swing arms of

24:41the dumpster actually would hit it

24:43because the angulation and location

24:45where where it would be. So um the

24:49revised location we have up here is a

24:52straight approach from Hudson.

24:54uh it comes straight in, but we are

24:56encroaching in that location into the

24:5925- ft uh clear clear setback from the

25:03uh west property line.

25:07>> So, we're asked we're able to maintain a

25:0912T6

25:11clearance from the existing residence

25:13that's there.

25:15>> Thanks. Nobody had signed up to speak.

25:19Anything from the members?

25:22So, we're just cutting the 25 foot set

25:24back to

25:26>> in half. In half. Yeah.

25:29>> Against an R1 property. I'm not in favor

25:31of this. I believe there's other

25:33alternatives that you could do to

25:35alleviate this situation. And that would

25:37be to hire a private carrier with

25:40polycarts

25:43>> with with polycar that we said.

25:44>> Yeah.

25:47I'd support it if you can get

25:48documentation that that that homeowner

25:50immediately to the west would would be

25:52okay with it.

25:55>> I I would support it if you can get

25:56documentation from the homeowner

25:58immediately to the west. Okay.

25:59>> That they're okay with it. So if you

26:00want to continue it for for that I I

26:02can't speak for either of them. You

26:04heard Don's comments, but

26:06>> Okay. I will reach out to that property

26:09owner.

26:10>> Yeah. So, and also reach out and see

26:12about doing private poly carts too just

26:15in in to alleviate the situation alto

26:17together.

26:18>> Yeah, we we looked into that. I mean,

26:20that's what we had when we came out

26:22there and started the property, you

26:23know, the the rehabilitation we did. Um,

26:26and of course those went away because

26:27they stopped servicing. Um, and that's

26:29for multif family. This is these are

26:31existing apartments, not multif family

26:33property. And so we were told that we

26:35were not allowed to use uh carts that

26:38the city would no longer service.

26:40>> Right. You can't get you can't get the

26:41city to do it because it's above it

26:44triplex. And so they are multif family

26:48quadlexes or apartments, but there are

26:50private carriers that will do a polycart

26:53service same way the city did it.

26:55>> Okay.

26:56>> And that would alleviate your situation

26:57with the dumpster. dumpster to me and

26:59far as from zoning it's it's very

27:01important where that dumpster is located

27:03and for the future uh the existing

27:06tenant or owner next to you might

27:08approve it or approve of it but then

27:11sell the home and it's just becomes

27:13problematic and it's

27:15pretty big nuisance to have a dumpster

27:18that close to a private residence

27:20>> is this

27:22there's one other alternative I had

27:24looked at

27:25>> I can pass

27:44Have you already verified whether or not

27:47this will affect your parking minimum?

27:49>> It I don't know that it will. I I have

27:51not verified that.

27:54I'm unclear. I I believe that we we have

27:56two in excess of what we are required

27:59currently.

28:01So it would eliminate those two parking

28:03spaces, but the angulation we would be

28:06able to get it in there. We just have to

28:07encroach further over um into the our

28:10parking spaces to avoid the overhead

28:13power lines.

28:28While they look at this, is there anyone

28:30from the audience who would like to

28:31speak on this case?

28:35None. So

28:39Sarah, did you see this?

28:41You want to just to look at it

28:43>> as far as from process.

28:45>> It's almost an identical location. It's

28:47just shifted over and I've got to do it

28:49on an angle,

28:50>> you know,

28:50>> but you wouldn't don't even know you

28:51have to have a variance with that. So

28:53that's why I was

28:54>> right look at that.

28:56>> I just I just don't know if that uh u

28:59affects the parking the parking

29:01minimums.

29:02>> Might need a variance for that.

29:04>> Yeah.

29:10We have 21 currently plus 21 plus plus

29:13an 8A. So we we would drop down to 19

29:16plus an 88.

29:17>> How many how many units? How many units?

29:19>> 12 12 units total.

29:22>> Is it two per currently?

29:28>> How many?

29:29>> My understanding was it was 1.5 but I'm

29:31not certain.

29:32>> I was going to say hey. Hi. I'm Sarah.

29:34They're well chai planning department.

29:36Yeah.

29:37>> Um uh how many bedrooms are in each

29:41unit?

29:42>> Are they onebedrooms or

29:43>> they're they're I think they're

29:45twobedroom. Two and three. I think

29:47they're two and threebedroom.

29:49>> Um like a forplex requires two per unit.

29:52And then for multif family, it's going

29:54to be either 1.5 or two per unit

29:56depending on how many bedrooms. So the

29:57one bedrooms would be one and a half

29:59parking spaces. And then um two for if

30:03it was a twobedroom.

30:04>> So it' be two. So we we're actually

30:06we're actually not compliant as it sits

30:08right now.

30:10>> But it's legal non-conform.

30:12>> Yeah, currently. But if he was to get a

30:15variance on the parking, then you could

30:16place the

30:18dumpster there. So

30:20>> do you want to consider having a

30:21granular variance on the parking? Are

30:23you more on board with that than

30:26>> I think you defer it and then they come

30:28back and

30:30with an either or.

30:31>> Yeah, the the the item is for the

30:33dumpster. So, I don't know if we can

30:34really

30:35>> switch the whole application,

30:36>> move it all over to parking when that's

30:37not what the application

30:39>> we have to renotice,

30:40>> right?

30:44>> Reotice.

30:49>> Okay. So, if you want to if you want to

30:51choose and select that location for the

30:54dumpster, then I guess you could just go

30:56on and then we could renotice you for

30:59our next hearing under the same case

31:01number but for a different variance.

31:03Okay.

31:03>> Which would be to the parking if you

31:05need it. There's some ways to get

31:06credits for parking with additional

31:08landscaping and things like that.

31:09>> Can you email that to me?

31:10>> Yes.

31:11>> Okay, that'd be wonderful.

31:12>> So, defer to the 3rd of December and

31:15we'll work it out between now and then.

31:17I want to make sure first. So if we

31:19notice then

31:20>> he loses his ability to bring back a

31:22case for the dumpster where it currently

31:24is because that's a separate issue

31:26requiring a separate notice. So that

31:28means that the

31:29>> that that's almost in the identical

31:30location where it was approved in the

31:32plan. We're just having to shift it over

31:34into the next parking stall because the

31:36angulation you can't get it plus the

31:38overhead lines. So we'd have to shift it

31:40over and have to be on an angle for the

31:41truck to physically come in to actually

31:43get it because there's an existing power

31:45pole that's there that they'd hit

31:48>> complex. I believe he's going to use the

31:50same fencing.

31:51>> So no new fee.

31:54>> Yeah. But when he comes back, we're only

31:56considering the dumpster place. We're

31:58not consider We're considering the

32:00varian parking.

32:01>> So there won't be a issue of bringing

32:03back documentation. Now, we were we were

32:05already approved with this plan with the

32:07number of parking installs that we have

32:09there currently. And I know this goes

32:10back to the dumpster thing.

32:11>> Um,

32:12>> so which is less. So, I'm not sure if we

32:16>> get together and

32:18>> tell us what's wrong or right.

32:20>> I just want to make sure he doesn't

32:21agree to this. He gets continued

32:23renoticed and then he determines that he

32:25needs to put it in the location he

32:27initially showed us. And it's like,

32:28well, we got to continue and renotice

32:30again, right?

32:31>> Because it's no longer a parking

32:32variance. We're back to the setback

32:33variance.

32:35>> Could be.

32:38>> Why don't you all go ahead and defer it

32:39and we'll figure it out.

32:40>> Okay.

32:42>> All right. Motion to continue case

32:45number 16406 to the December 3rd, 2026

32:50meeting.

32:51>> Second.

32:52>> The December 3rd or 5th?

32:54>> December 3rd.

33:01We have a motion and a second

33:06>> Mr. Uday

33:07>> I sa

33:09>> I

33:10>> Mr. Noble

33:11>> I

33:16thank you.

33:23Item number four, case number 16377,

33:26is a request of Skyler Teague of Simply

33:29Modern Development LLC of Variance

33:32Defense Regulations located at 801

33:35Northwest 68th Street.

33:48Skyler Teague, Simply Modern

33:49Development.

33:53So, we're just trying to basically put a

33:57privacy fence in the front of the home.

34:00Um,

34:02directly east of the property is a

34:04abandoned storage facility and there's

34:06homeless people currently living in

34:08there. So, what we've had a lot of

34:09issues is breaking in the home, uh,

34:12stealing new construction materials. So,

34:15we're trying to basically just have a

34:17little security and privacy on the front

34:19of the home.

34:21So,

34:23the um proposed fence would be uh there

34:27would be a parkway in the front, 7 foot,

34:294ft sidewalk, and then a three-foot

34:32planter and then the fence.

34:36It would create basically a front yard

34:37for the house. That'd be 16 ft.

34:45Okay, thanks. Um, nobody had signed up

34:48to speak. Is does anyone want to speak

34:49on this case? No.

34:53Anything from the members?

35:00It's an interesting location and spot.

35:03Small lot. There's a lot of frontage

35:06along Chartell. And then the

35:10the garage is on the north end and then

35:12the front door is on the south.

35:13>> Yes.

35:21>> The site plan I passed out has it's a

35:24little updated so it has kind of a

35:26couple examples um of kind of what we're

35:30trying to accomplish with this and

35:32they're actually not as far off the road

35:35as this would be. So, and then plus

35:37Chartell's really there's no traffic, so

35:40it's not like a hightra area such as

35:431701 North Klein is a very hightra area.

35:48Um, so my thoughts would be there's not

35:51a lot of traffic going down Chartell. It

35:54wouldn't be the site issue.

36:04What type of fence is it?

36:05>> Um, it was going to be a brick privacy

36:09wall to match the home. Um, so it's not

36:12going to be see-through other than the

36:14gate. Um, the main reason we didn't want

36:17it to be see-through again is the

36:21transients, the homeless people continue

36:23to walk around the property and uh,

36:26stare in the front windows and try to

36:28break stuff and cut the wires. And so

36:30we're having a lot of issues with that.

36:32And unfortunately the police department

36:35can't really do much for us with that

36:38over there. They just say, "Well, I

36:40mean, we can take them, but they're

36:42going to be back in 4 hours type of

36:44situation."

36:46And the storage facility, they're just

36:50they're living there, you know, on North

36:52Shortell on the east side of the road.

37:00So, I've got a question for staff. Am I

37:02understand am I understanding correctly?

37:04Are we not able to vary the portion of

37:07the fence that fronts Chartell?

37:10>> Um Sarah Welch, Planning Department. Hi

37:12again. Hello.

37:12>> Hi.

37:13>> Um no, you cannot because the way the

37:16spud was written is it is all the fence

37:19regulations are per code except that up

37:21to a six foot allow is allowed on

37:23Chartell. And I don't recall why it

37:25would normally be 6 to 8 feet.

37:28So, we had a discussion about how

37:30there's

37:32six is the max on Chartell. The front

37:34yard fence is normally a 4 foot max

37:36see-through. And so, the only variance

37:38that he can seek today is the front yard

37:40fence

37:41>> because that's code and not

37:42>> because that's just per code. Yes. He's

37:44seeking a variance to the chapter 59

37:47fence regulations for front yard.

37:52So basically what's allowed in the PUB

37:55here is more stringent along Chartel

37:57than what's in code which is why we

37:59can't

37:59>> Yes. We we would consider the fence

38:01regulations along Chartell to be

38:03individually negotiated through that

38:05spud and not eligible for a variance.

38:07>> That makes sense.

38:18We've actually developed this entire

38:20street and we're in pretty good with all

38:22the neighbors. So, everybody I kind of

38:24ran it by everybody and everyone seemed

38:26to be on board with it on the street and

38:28said, "Sounds great. I wouldn't have a

38:30problem with it." So, all the neighbors

38:32um weren't opposed to it. So, anything

38:35progression for the street is

38:37everybody's on board.

38:42And are you having the the issue on

38:45Chartell or you having the issue on

38:4668th?

38:47>> So we're having the issue on Chartell um

38:51across the street. So east side of the

38:54road. Um and I think they're coming from

38:57the railroad tracks and then just coming

38:59to the storage facility and camping out

39:03there. Um but the issue is the home. Um

39:08it's just all glass in the front

39:10basically. So you can just walk up and

39:12see straight in. And

39:15um it's listed right now for on the

39:18market for 1.2 and I think it's going to

39:21kind of be an issue.

39:25>> Well, I ask you that because I mean 8

39:28foot seems really imposing. That being

39:31said, I definitely understand the

39:33situation that you're up against. Is

39:36there a chance that you could get by

39:37without having the 8 foot along 68th

39:39Street?

39:40>> I wouldn't be opposed to if we could do

39:43an adjustment amendment to six foot. Um

39:46the main thing is we just want a privacy

39:49fence and a walk gate to the house. So

39:52it just adds a little security and then

39:54also kind of gives you a front yard.

39:59>> Could it be a hybrid? You mentioned

40:02going with brick. Could we go up brick,

40:034 foot, and then the remainder uh be

40:07something that could be seen through?

40:10>> The aesthetics, the the goal with the

40:12fence was almost privacy, so you

40:15couldn't really see through it. Um

40:20I would prefer it to be a privacy fence.

40:23Um so it kind of creates a courtyard for

40:26the front of the home. Um, kind of like

40:28the example I've got, um, on 144

40:31Northeast 14th Street, there's no

40:34visibility through that fence. Um, so if

40:38you have kids, children, dogs, whatever,

40:41um, they feel safe and secure in the

40:43front yard.

40:45>> And it's not really tying into any fence

40:47along Chartell anyways, right? It's

40:49tying into the house.

40:51>> Correct. It would tie into the corner of

40:53the house.

40:55Well, architecturally almost look like

40:57it's part of the home.

41:00>> Do you have the rendering of how it

41:02would look? Was it attached to the

41:04rendering?

41:07>> We don't we don't really have a

41:09>> Oh, I think it was submitted with the

41:11initial plot plan.

41:21I'll show you real. So this is

41:40see that far.

41:44>> And even in the rendering, it kind of

41:46looks a little bit more like a six foot

41:47tall fence than an 8ft tall fence.

41:51>> Again, my

41:54with the architectural style in there

41:56and the other houses that you've built

41:57along that.

42:00>> I can get behind it.

42:03>> What' you say?

42:03>> I can get behind it. As much as I don't

42:06really like that much of it, it's goes

42:09with the architect architectural

42:10character in that area. So,

42:13>> I agree. If I think if you can get to

42:15six foot, if you'll do six foot around,

42:17I'm 100% on board. I mean, it makes

42:20perfect sense what you're trying to do.

42:22um trying to keep the the interaction

42:25soft with anybody who is interacting in

42:27the area, going to visit somebody else,

42:28but also maintaining security and safety

42:30for the folks that live there. I think

42:32that that'd be a good balance.

42:35>> I'd be more than happy with sixfoot. I

42:38think that would accomplish the same

42:39goal.

42:46>> Anything else? No. Make a motion to

42:49approve case number 16377

42:51for the purpose that it meets the

42:53statuto requirements for the requested

42:55variance with the modification that this

42:57will be a 6ft fence rather than an 8ft

43:00fence.

43:01>> Second.

43:02>> Did you guys get panels?

43:04Did you get voting panels?

43:06>> No.

43:06>> Refresh you will probably.

43:09>> And for the motion a maximum of six

43:11feet.

43:11>> Maximum six foot tall.

43:18No,

43:23>> you got one.

43:26>> Mr. Uday

43:27>> I

43:28>> Mr. Ceda

43:29>> I

43:30>> Mr. Noble

43:31>> I

43:32>> It's 300.

43:37>> So I went all the way back out back into

43:39the meeting and

43:40>> signed out.

43:42I didn't even sign out, but I just got

43:44back into the where you clicked on this

43:46meeting and it worked.

43:48>> Thank you.

43:49>> Thanks.

43:50>> It was approved.

43:52Marcus.

43:55>> Item number five, case number

43:58>> 16384 is a request of Nathan Joseph on

44:01behalf of Avalon at Oklahoma City Phase

44:042 Limited Partnership for a variance to

44:07the front yard setback located at 1200

44:09Northeast 27th Place.

44:16>> Uh good afternoon, Nathan Joseph.

44:19residence is 3221 Kates Avenue Northeast

44:22in Brook Haven, Georgia. Um, I have

44:27nine uh variance requests for similar uh

44:32similar sideyard or front mostly front

44:36and sideyard setbacks in uh

44:40community that I developed um not far

44:42from here. Uh it's 80 single family

44:44homes uh that I developed with the

44:46low-income housing tax credit program.

44:48These homes are all rented to households

44:51earning 30% 50% and 60% or less of the

44:55area median income at rates that are no

44:58more than 30% of their income. Uh when

45:01we finally got it done, the development,

45:04all 80 units leased up in less than a

45:06month. Uh I say when we finally got it

45:08done because

45:10um unfortunately we had a contractor

45:13that uh

45:16did not do their job. Uh and eventually

45:18we had to terminate them, finish

45:20construction on our own. We've been

45:22spending a lot of time cleaning up some

45:24uh items that uh that were done

45:27incorrectly. These are are some of them.

45:29We took over after the pads report. Um,

45:33nine pads were poured uh by the previous

45:37contractor uh within within or without

45:41outside the setback um on the sides and

45:44on the fronts and fortunately in this

45:48instance we own the entire neighborhood.

45:50Uh

45:52so immediate neighbors don't uh don't

45:56take immediate issue with it and the

45:59development serving a good purpose in

46:01the community. There's high demand

46:02leased up in a month and we'd appreciate

46:05your consideration.

46:11>> Okay, Nathan, you were the only person

46:13to sign up on this. Is there anyone else

46:14in the audience who'd like to speak on

46:16this case?

46:18With that, we'll hear from you guys. So

46:20these are all minimum

46:24distance setback variances, but this

46:27happens a lot in culde-sacs and on

46:30corners where they didn't measure from

46:33the

46:35least place. And this one is 2.6 foot of

46:39variance

46:41to the front yard set back.

46:45>> But these will all be slightly

46:47different.

46:47>> Every one of them.

46:56I know we had discussion about this

46:58before. Uh not specifically about this

47:01exact case, but just

47:04the idea that

47:06>> they're not surveyed.

47:07>> Yeah.

47:08>> If they were surveyed prior to you, you

47:10you'd you'd know a little bit more,

47:12right? It's not a requirement. It is

47:16requirement to sell them which is when

47:17they get found out.

47:23>> Oh, sorry. Did someone

47:29>> Can Can you come up to the mic?

47:31>> Yep.

47:35>> Did you fill out a white sheet?

47:37>> No, I didn't.

47:38>> Okay.

47:39>> I need to fill out a white sheet. just

47:41for just for contact, but no, you can

47:43just come up, state your name and

47:45address.

47:45>> Okay. My name is Grace Coleman and I'm a

47:47resident at 1129 Northeast 28th Street

47:51and I've got four, I guess,

47:54announcements or notices of what is

47:57called yard and bulk regulation

47:59concerning the front yard setback

48:02building line. I have no idea what that

48:05is. So, there's a set back from the

48:09property line that they had to set the

48:10house back. [music] And these are all

48:12adjustments what you'll hear in these

48:14next nine cases, but they're adjustments

48:16to how far the setback was. And so,

48:19they're all a limited number of

48:22distances

48:24outside the setback. This one's 2.6

48:27foot. Too close to the street.

48:28>> Too Oh, too close.

48:30>> Just this far.

48:31>> Okay. So, but I I didn't quite

48:33understand why that would have any

48:35bearing on in the area that I where I

48:38live.

48:38>> It you're just noticed because you're

48:40within the area of notice. So, that's

48:43why you're noticed.

48:45>> Oh.

48:45>> It doesn't really have a lot of bearing

48:47on your property at all. It's just this

48:49individual property and all the next

48:50cases for this property.

48:52>> Oh, you're sitting back.

48:54>> So, so he has to receive a variance

48:56because he's built this far too close to

48:58the street.

48:59>> Oh, okay.

49:01That's just what I wanted to know. I

49:03didn't know what was going on. That's

49:05why I'm asking. And I think someone else

49:07>> Well, mine is the same thing. It's one

49:09of one of the problem.

49:10>> If you want to, you could speak from

49:11just speak with start with your name and

49:13address.

49:14>> Um, my name is Walgreens busy. And you

49:17want my physical home? The physical

49:18address? Uh, 1413 Montichello Court. And

49:22my case number is 16389.

49:25So we uh

49:27>> you can wait to wait to speak on that,

49:29but they're they're all this the exact

49:30same.

49:31>> Okay. So it doesn't affect our property?

49:33>> No, it just has to do with the

49:35individual lots that are on that map. Go

49:37back to this map that you can see.

49:39>> Uhhuh.

49:40>> So all of those individual lots are

49:42requesting a variance because they're

49:44just built outside the setback just

49:47varying distances.

49:49>> Okay. Doesn't affect us?

49:50>> No.

49:51>> Okay. Thank you.

49:53>> Yeah. and and staff had advised uh when

49:55this when this came to light that the

49:58board had expressed some frustration

50:00with this uh happening elsewhere. So,

50:03like I said, I am apologetic and it's

50:07just something that I'm trying to like I

50:09say, clean up from the prior prior

50:11contractor.

50:12>> And like I said, you you don't have to

50:14survey prior to construction, but you do

50:17have to have a survey prior to selling

50:18it. So,

50:20>> it's problematic that it's built before

50:22you know that it's outside of a setback.

50:25>> Did we ever hear back on that request? I

50:27know that we asked that to be looked

50:29into.

50:30>> Yeah, it's been still being discussed

50:33and talked about. Obviously, there's

50:35some push back from the development

50:37community about doing individuals lot

50:40surveys

50:41because it's on the builder, but

50:46>> I mean,

50:46>> it would solve this problem for sure. it

50:49would I mean we can deny the variances

50:50and then they can demolish the buildings

50:52and start over

50:55which is the alternative. So I

51:01>> that that's the issue every single time

51:03that this has come up as we continue to

51:05do it and as long as we take this

51:07approach that we're taking.

51:10You could argue that these setbacks

51:13become optional because it's going to be

51:15granted at board of adjustment

51:17simply by virtue of the fact that the

51:19building already exists and they're not

51:22going to deny a variance request on

51:24something that's already constructed.

51:32Noted.

51:46I mean, it's been a while since we we've

51:48had one of these, I feel like.

51:50>> Yeah.

51:50>> But

51:51>> I go to a lot of meetings for the

51:52development community. I'll be sure to

51:54bring this back up into consideration.

51:57>> It looks like most of these are front.

52:00I

52:00>> think they're

52:01>> front setback issues.

52:03Um,

52:06I don't know what you all's appetite is

52:08for considering like a

52:11increased landscaping requirement to

52:13kind of make up for that.

52:37I think they are all front yard

52:40>> except two for a side.

52:41>> Yeah, I thought there were a couple were

52:43side and

52:48>> and if I may it there you can see

52:50they're all on the

52:52>> on the culde-sac and the curves because

52:54we measure that set back and the

52:56frontage at the setback line. So, I

52:59think on these curved lots, you can see

53:01they're all going to be

53:04on some sort of bend.

53:06>> And a couple of the side ones, you'll

53:07hear in a minute, are really for things

53:09that we normally wouldn't even I think

53:11it's an abundance of caution that

53:12they're asking for variances on a couple

53:13of these. Um, I think the largest or the

53:17most setback is five feet. Is that the

53:19most

53:20>> For the most for the most part, they're

53:22they're they're over the setback line,

53:24but only a portion of the setback line.

53:26It's not like they were built over the

53:27entire, you know, front yard set back.

53:32>> But Marcus, to your point, an additional

53:34tree wouldn't be any bit of a problem

53:37for for me.

53:39>> Yeah. And and I will be clear like on

53:41this one, like it's I have much less

53:44problem with it. Mainly because they own

53:47the entire development. So, we're not

53:49we're not talking about um what a dozen

53:52or half a dozen homeowners may have to

53:55deal with. Um, so I do think that that

53:58works and and as Sarah pointed out and

54:01these are very small

54:03uh

54:04>> encroachments.

54:07I I think I'm mainly just speaking to

54:10the issue in general of like if we want

54:12to start implementing

54:15on on particularly on sideyards. I think

54:17it's a bigger issue because

54:19>> you could argue that there's a a fire

54:21safety consideration there and and maybe

54:23one of the things that we consider on

54:25that is um increasing uh the fire rating

54:31on those wall assemblies at least for

54:33the side where the on the side where the

54:35encroachment has occurred. So, if you're

54:38if you've got an encroachment on the

54:39sideyard, um maybe requiring a two-hour

54:43fire assembly or something like that

54:44>> and also runoff from the roof without

54:47gutter and and and I have I know in the

54:50past made them gutter it and capture it

54:53and put it to the curb

54:56just so you're not running off to the to

54:57the neighbor because these are five foot

54:59apart, five and five.

55:01>> Yeah.

55:10So for me, I mean, on the front yard

55:12setback one, I definitely think

55:14additional canopy tree would be minimum.

55:18>> I'm fine with that. It doesn't need to

55:19be anything dramatic. It's just

55:21something to acknowledge that we're

55:22trying to accommodate for it.

55:25>> Appreciate.

55:25>> I think right now it's one canopy tree,

55:28right? So it would just be two. One in

55:30front yard, one in the back.

55:34Yeah, no problem. Far superior to

55:38demolishing and rebuilding.

55:39>> I mean, you could tear it down if you

55:40want to. If you'd rather do that,

55:43>> I'll have the contractor pay for it, but

55:45I'd rather not have that fight.

55:47>> No.

55:49>> Anything else?

55:51>> No. I'll make a motion to approve case

55:52number 16384 for the purpose that it

55:55meets statuto requirements for the

55:57requested variance uh with the

55:59additional requirement of a canopy tree.

56:03>> Second

56:06>> motion and a second. Did you guys get

56:09panels?

56:09>> Yes, sir.

56:11>> Is that canomy tree in the does it have

56:13to be in the front yard or is there any

56:14specific

56:15>> I front yard backyard for me? I think

56:17when there's two trees that are mantro,

56:19we usually make one in the front, one in

56:20the back rather than just two in the

56:21front.

56:23>> I don't particularly have a problem with

56:25it, but I think if we're addressing a

56:26front yard setback, whatever the

56:28landscaping requirement should be should

56:29be applicable to the front yard. So, if

56:31they already got the requirement for the

56:34first tree to be in the front yard,

56:35probably makes sense to add the second

56:38one to the front yard or you could

56:41require something.

56:42>> Either way, Roberto, you made the

56:45motion. Could we say just one additional

56:47tree planted on the lot?

56:49>> Yes.

56:49>> I think because people are living there,

56:51so I didn't know how disruptive or if

56:54they'd have preferences.

56:55>> Either or.

56:57>> So

56:58>> Japanese

57:00>> one additional

57:02>> canopy tree

57:09and it passes.

57:12Item number six, case number 16385,

57:15request of Nathan Joseph on behalf of

57:17Avalon, Oklahoma City, Phase One Limited

57:21Partnership for a variance to the front

57:23yard setback located at 1205 Northeast

57:2629th Street.

57:29>> Same request, different lot. I think

57:31this is

57:31>> Start with your name and address again.

57:33>> Nathan Joseph, 3221 Kates Avenue

57:35Northeast in Brook Haven, Georgia. Um,

57:39same request we just uh just made uh

57:44requesting a variance from the front

57:45yard setback.

57:47I think this is the most egregious one.

57:50I believe this is the the one that's 5

57:51foot over.

57:53>> Yeah,

57:58I'm I'm fine with taking the same

57:59approach we just did.

58:03>> And I will just ask if anyone else

58:05wanted to speak on this case. No.

58:08Anything else?

58:09>> No.

58:10>> Same.

58:10>> Same canopy tree.

58:12>> Yeah.

58:12>> All right. Motion to approve case number

58:1416385 for the purpose that it meets the

58:16statuto requirements for the requested

58:18variance. Uh with the only additional

58:21requirement being uh there will be

58:23additional canopy tree on the lot

58:25itself.

58:27>> Second.

58:28>> Motion in a second. Vote when available.

58:37and it passes.

58:39>> Item number seven, case number 16386,

58:43request of Nathan Joseph on behalf of

58:45Avalon at Oklahoma City, phase 2 for a

58:48variance to the sideyard setback located

58:50at 1300 Northeast 27th Place.

58:57>> This one is Sideyard.

58:59>> Yeah.

58:59>> What?

59:00>> Go ahead, Nathan. Nathan Joseph 3221

59:03Kates Avenue Northeast Brook Haven

59:05Georgia

59:07contractor built in the sideyard

59:08setback. Would appreciate your guys'

59:09consideration.

59:13And this one is sideyard but it's

59:15sideyard

59:18to the curb I believe. Right.

59:23>> Mhm.

59:24>> Already.

59:26>> So it's the west side where there's the

59:28encroachment.

59:35uh

59:38high visibility markers on the fence.

59:42>> I mean, there's there's no fire concern

59:44on the west side of the property,

59:46>> right?

59:49>> 1.7 ft.

1:00:06I'm still going to say to capture it

1:00:08from put gutter down all the way on the

1:00:10west side.

1:00:13>> Yeah, no problem.

1:00:18>> Any additional requirements on the

1:00:19guttering

1:00:20>> and just captured taken to the curb.

1:00:23>> All right. Motion to approve case number

1:00:2616386 for the purpose that it meets the

1:00:28statuto shore requirements for the

1:00:29requested variance uh with the only

1:00:32additional requirement of guttering uh

1:00:34taking water to the street.

1:00:37>> Second

1:00:39motion in a second. Vote when available

1:00:46and it passes.

1:00:47>> Item number eight, case number 16387.

1:00:51It's a request of Nathan Joseph on

1:00:52behalf of Avalon at Oklahoma City. Phase

1:00:54one, look for a variance to the front

1:00:57yard setback located at 1305 Northeast

1:01:0129th Street.

1:01:03>> Nathan Joseph, 3221 Kates Avenue

1:01:05Northeast, Brook Haven, Georgia.

1:01:09Contractor built on the setback line. I

1:01:12think that's pretty close. Would

1:01:13appreciate

1:01:15a waiver or some consideration.

1:01:20Nobody has signed up to speak on this

1:01:21case. Anyone want to sign up or speak on

1:01:24this? No. Anything else?

1:01:31>> We good?

1:01:32>> Yeah.

1:01:32>> Foot over. So,

1:01:34>> all right. Motion to approve case number

1:01:3616387 for the purpose that it meets the

1:01:38statutory requirements for the requested

1:01:41variance. Uh, no modifications.

1:01:43>> No.

1:01:45>> Okay. All right. with the additional

1:01:47requirement of a canvry tree on the lot

1:01:49itself.

1:01:50>> Second

1:01:51>> motion and a second. Vote when available

1:01:58>> and it passes.

1:02:01>> Item number nine, case number 16388 is a

1:02:03request request of Nathan Joseph on

1:02:06behalf of Avalon at Oklahoma City phase

1:02:08one look for a variance to the sideyard

1:02:11setback located at 1317 Northeast 27th

1:02:14Place.

1:02:16Nathan Joseph 3221 Kates Avenue

1:02:18Northeast Brook Haven, Georgia.

1:02:21Contractor built an AC pad in the

1:02:23setback. Would appreciate y'all's

1:02:27consideration of a variance

1:02:38on this one. Is the house the house is

1:02:412.9 foot too far also? Right.

1:02:44No, it's just the

1:02:47>> AC pad.

1:02:59No one had signed up to speak. Does

1:03:00anyone want to speak on this case? No.

1:03:07Move the pad

1:03:10in the unit.

1:03:13So, is there a gap between the house and

1:03:15the pad?

1:03:18>> There's a the normal fix gap. Yeah.

1:03:22>> So, there was there's not there's not

1:03:24enough space where the house currently

1:03:26sits for to meet the setback with an AC

1:03:29pad there.

1:03:32>> Sorry.

1:03:33>> There's not enough space like so the the

1:03:35AC pad goes up against the house give or

1:03:37take a few inches. Even with that,

1:03:39there's no way that he could have put

1:03:40it.

1:03:41>> Correct. Uh, we moved we moved it

1:03:43closer. We'd be

1:03:46at 2.3

1:03:48>> right

1:03:48>> over.

1:03:52>> So, it just should have been placed in

1:03:53the back

1:03:54>> or on the other side

1:03:55>> plumbed originally

1:03:56>> or or the building should have been

1:03:59placed

1:04:00>> further

1:04:00>> 2.9 ft over

1:04:01>> to the east. Right. If you'd have known,

1:04:04you could have avoided this by doing

1:04:05that.

1:04:14The fence is still on the property line,

1:04:165 foot from the house.

1:04:18You just can't get by it. The air

1:04:20conditioner unit, I'm sure,

1:04:24because it's in the setback.

1:04:28Gutter it.

1:04:31>> Gutter.

1:04:32>> It's not tearing down a whole house.

1:04:33>> Mm.

1:04:36>> I'm fine. And you can not have to pay to

1:04:38relocate the AC either. So,

1:04:43>> all right. Make a motion to approve case

1:04:44number 16388 for the purpose that it

1:04:47meets the statuto requirements for the

1:04:48requested variance uh with the

1:04:50additional requirement of guttering

1:04:52along that side of the house all the way

1:04:56to taking water to the street.

1:05:00>> What is that?

1:05:03>> Is that what you wanting?

1:05:04>> Okay, I'll second.

1:05:06It's motion or Yeah, it's been seconded.

1:05:09Motion in a second. Vote when available.

1:05:15>> It passes.

1:05:17>> Item number 10, case number 16389.

1:05:20Request of Nathan Joseph on behalf of

1:05:22Avalon at Oklahoma City phase 2. Look

1:05:25for a variance to the front yard setback

1:05:28platted building line located at 2704

1:05:31Avalon Boulevard.

1:05:33Nathan Joseph, 3221 Kates Avenue,

1:05:36Northeast, Brook Haven, Georgia.

1:05:37Contractor built over the front back

1:05:40line. Would appreciate you guys'

1:05:41consideration of variance.

1:05:46[snorts]

1:05:46>> No one else has signed up to speak. Does

1:05:48anyone want to speak on this case? No.

1:05:53It's 3.4 foot into the front setback.

1:05:59You going to be able to hold the

1:06:00contractor liable for these additional

1:06:02costs?

1:06:04>> Come again.

1:06:05>> Are you going to be able to hold the

1:06:06contractor liable for all these

1:06:07additional costs?

1:06:09>> Uh [laughter] kind let's just say when I

1:06:12took over we're uh it cost us $6 million

1:06:15more dollars to finish the project. So

1:06:16he owes us a lot of money.

1:06:18>> Yeah. Goodness.

1:06:23>> You good with that? All right. Make a

1:06:25motion to approve case number 16389 for

1:06:27the purpose that it meets the statuto

1:06:29requirements for the requested variance

1:06:31with the additional requirement of a

1:06:32canopy tree on the lot.

1:06:34>> Second.

1:06:39>> We have a motion and a second. Vote when

1:06:43able

1:06:46>> and it passes.

1:06:49>> Item number 11, case number 16390.

1:06:52Request of Nathan Joseph on behalf of

1:06:54Avalon at Oklahoma City Phase 1 for

1:06:56variance to the front yard setback plat

1:06:59building line located at 2908 North Lah

1:07:02Avenue.

1:07:04>> Nathan Joseph 3221 Kates Avenue

1:07:06Northeast Brook Haven, Georgia.

1:07:08Contractor built outside the inside the

1:07:10front yard setback. Would appreciate

1:07:12your guys' approval of the variance.

1:07:16>> No one else has signed up to speak on

1:07:18this. Does anyone want to speak on this

1:07:19case?

1:07:21So, it's 1.4 ft inside the front yard

1:07:24setback or outside the front yard

1:07:27setback.

1:07:31We good? Motion to approve case number

1:07:3416390 for the purpose that it meets the

1:07:36statutory requirements for the requested

1:07:38variance uh with the additional

1:07:40requirement of a canvry on the lot.

1:07:44>> Second.

1:07:46>> Motion a second. Vote when available.

1:07:52And it passes.

1:07:54>> Item number 12, case number 16391,

1:07:58request of Nathan Joseph on behalf of

1:08:00Avalon at Oklahoma City phase 1 for a

1:08:02variance to the front yard setback plat

1:08:04building line located at 2941 North Lahi

1:08:08Avenue.

1:08:11>> Nathan Joseph 3221 Kates Avenue

1:08:13Northeast requesting a variance from the

1:08:17front yard setback.

1:08:20No one else had signed up to speak. Does

1:08:21anyone want to speak on this case? No.

1:08:25So, it's 2.8 ft inside the or outside

1:08:28the front yard setback.

1:08:38>> Nothing new.

1:08:39>> All right. Motion to approve case number

1:08:4216391 for the purpose that it meets the

1:08:44statutory requirements for the requested

1:08:46variance with the additional requirement

1:08:47of a cabinet tree canopy tree on the

1:08:50lot. Second

1:08:52>> motion and a second

1:08:55when available

1:08:58and it passes.

1:09:02Item number 13, case number 16392, is a

1:09:05request of Nathan Joseph on behalf of

1:09:07Avalon, Oklahoma City, phase 1 for a

1:09:10variance to the front yard setback

1:09:11platted building line located at 1201

1:09:14Northeast 29th Street.

1:09:17>> Nathan Joseph, 3221, Kates Avenue

1:09:19Northeast, Brook Haven, Georgia would

1:09:22appreciate the board's

1:09:24approval of a varianard setback on this

1:09:27lot.

1:09:34Nobody signed up to speak. Does anyone

1:09:35want to speak on this case?

1:09:40>> All right. Make a motion app to approve

1:09:41case number 16392 for the purpose that

1:09:43it meets the statuto requirements

1:09:46of the requested variant uh with the

1:09:49requirement of an additional canopy tree

1:09:52on the lot.

1:09:53>> Second.

1:09:55>> Motion and a second. Vote when able.

1:09:59and it passes. Thank you.

1:10:02>> Thank you.

1:10:05>> Item number 14, case number 16196, is an

1:10:08application for a special exception by

1:10:11Melissa Eisman on behalf of 32 Group LLC

1:10:14to allow home sharing located at 1217

1:10:17Northeast 15th Street.

1:10:21>> Hello.

1:10:23And my name is Cynthia Cardi. My

1:10:25physical address is 6417 South Hive

1:10:27Place, Oklahoma City 73139.

1:10:31Here to get approval. We came on October

1:10:3515th

1:10:37to the meeting and was advised to come

1:10:38back 20 days later and we're here today

1:10:41to get the application approved.

1:10:48Nobody had signed up to speak. Does

1:10:49anyone here want to speak on this case?

1:10:52No.

1:10:54So this is one that we deferred a month

1:10:57ago back due to current activity. I

1:11:01believe

1:11:04>> y'all agree that we had no activity

1:11:07which we have not had any activity

1:11:09online

1:11:11and there's still no activity.

1:11:40So I and I think this one your son came

1:11:44is that right?

1:11:45>> From Arizona.

1:11:46>> And I might have misspoken to him to

1:11:47take it down all the way off of Airbnb.

1:11:51And what I meant to say and will

1:11:53continue to say is that cannot do a

1:11:56short-term lease during the interim.

1:11:59Right.

1:11:59>> They haven't done anything,

1:12:01>> right? I know. I just wanted to make

1:12:03myself clear on that. It It's not that

1:12:04you need to take it down from Airbnb.

1:12:06You can do a plus 30. You just can't do

1:12:08less than 30,

1:12:09>> right?

1:12:10>> While we're

1:12:13while the case was being deferred

1:12:15basically,

1:12:15>> correct?

1:12:17>> Yeah, that's all by that. I just have in

1:12:19my notes just to verify um that there

1:12:22hasn't been any booking. So Sarah, you

1:12:24can check that on this one. That was

1:12:25all.

1:12:26>> Unfortunately, I cannot. We don't have

1:12:27internet right now in this chamber.

1:12:31>> I can tell you there hasn't been,

1:12:33>> but she's verbally confirming that.

1:12:35>> Yep.

1:12:41So, and I just wanted to go over the

1:12:44case just a little bit, and that was

1:12:47um for the application itself,

1:12:51I wanted to make sure that the the quiet

1:12:53hours got registered from 9:00 p.m. to

1:12:558:00 a.m.

1:12:56>> Okay.

1:12:57>> And that the maximum number of vehicles

1:12:59on the property be three with no on

1:13:01street parking. And the term would be

1:13:03one year.

1:13:05>> Correct.

1:13:06And one year from when? Today? one year

1:13:09from the board order when you get

1:13:10approval.

1:13:11>> Okay.

1:13:11>> And then a license.

1:13:14>> Okay.

1:13:14>> Would coincide with that.

1:13:16>> That's right.

1:13:18>> Right.

1:13:19>> One year from today,

1:13:21>> the date today

1:13:22>> for the special exception. And then they

1:13:24have to get a license. And when it's

1:13:26issued, it has one year.

1:13:28>> Okay.

1:13:30And then also start the process prior to

1:13:33like give them two months just to start

1:13:36working it out rather than a few days.

1:13:40Make sure you can get it in and on doc

1:13:42on the docket.

1:13:50>> You good?

1:13:50>> All I can do is continue this one.

1:13:54The notes that I have are from the

1:13:56previous meeting that uh he he had

1:13:58bookings but his explanation for the

1:14:00bookings was that he had some things in

1:14:01the queue that he needed to adjust and

1:14:04we didn't have any evidence of that

1:14:05then. I think Sarah did a check and he

1:14:08decided that was the reason why the

1:14:09bookings was there. So without it I'll

1:14:13need to have verification of that. So I

1:14:14won't deny it but we'll have to have

1:14:17that

1:14:19and she won't.

1:14:21>> Yeah it's not up. I did try to find it.

1:14:23It's not on Airbnb, but

1:14:31what happened in the past? I don't know.

1:14:34You know, when it went down.

1:14:39Were you having to come from out of

1:14:41state? I don't remember.

1:14:42>> No, I'm just coming from my law firm

1:14:43where I work downtown.

1:14:45>> Okay. I just don't want to make it much

1:14:47harder on you. But I'm I'm fine.

1:14:50>> I don't think she needs to come back. I

1:14:51don't think that we need to make it

1:14:53burdensome, but I want to be consistent

1:14:54with what I said.

1:14:56>> Right.

1:14:56>> So, what would you do? Send an email

1:14:59>> or

1:14:59>> No, you would have to do anything,

1:15:01>> right? So, it'll come back up before the

1:15:03board. You don't even need to be here to

1:15:04represent it if you don't want to. But

1:15:06if there hasn't been any bookings, then

1:15:08we would move forward

1:15:11today. You have to have all three of us

1:15:14to vote positive to get it.

1:15:17Then

1:15:19>> so nobody shows up and then y'all call

1:15:22out this number and then it gets passed

1:15:24>> and then we get notification

1:15:27>> as well.

1:15:28>> I mean

1:15:28>> we don't need you to show we don't need

1:15:30you going to be here. [laughter]

1:15:33>> But then we don't get the license for

1:15:35however whenever the next meeting is.

1:15:37>> You wouldn't get it until the board

1:15:39order wouldn't go out until after we

1:15:40approved it. So after the next meeting

1:15:42>> and when's the next meeting? December

1:15:433rd.

1:15:44>> Correct. So, it's we have 30 more days,

1:15:4628 more days to get approved.

1:15:53>> And that's because there's no internet.

1:15:56>> Well, that's because there's no way to

1:15:57document it. If you have

1:15:58>> correct because there's no internet for

1:15:59you to document.

1:16:00>> Well, no, you can you can document it.

1:16:02You have the tools that Airbnb provides

1:16:04you to show show the stay. So, if you

1:16:06can document it, then I'm happy to

1:16:07approve it.

1:16:09Do you want me to bring you and show you

1:16:12the documentation from Airbnb that

1:16:15>> that there's been no bookings? Yes,

1:16:16ma'am.

1:16:17>> Okay. And that would be what? To email

1:16:18it to you or to bring it back to you?

1:16:20>> No. Do you

1:16:21>> We can put it to the back of the docket

1:16:23today

1:16:24>> and she can actually go find this out.

1:16:26>> She has to leave here though to do it.

1:16:28>> So, do I need to wait for that?

1:16:30>> Yeah.

1:16:31>> I mean,

1:16:32>> do you have do you have the app?

1:16:35>> No, but I can put it on if you'd like.

1:16:38So, you want me to wait till number?

1:16:42>> Yeah. Seven.

1:16:42>> It won't be very long.

1:16:45>> We're trying to not make you come back

1:16:46is what it sounds like right now.

1:16:48>> It has to go through the city

1:16:49>> on my lunch and it's a very long lunch.

1:16:51>> I asked.

1:16:53>> Okay. I was going to

1:17:00>> Okay, we Yep. We're going to push it to

1:17:05the back of the docket. I think that

1:17:06would be best for you and just to try to

1:17:08get this cleared up.

1:17:09>> Okay,

1:17:16>> let me go to the next case.

1:17:17>> Okay. Um,

1:17:20item number 15, case number 16369 is an

1:17:23application by Felicia Pringle Durant,

1:17:26trustee of the Felicia Michelle Pringle

1:17:28Trust to allow home sharing located at

1:17:306001 Glen Clove Place.

1:17:34Good afternoon. Thank you for hearing me

1:17:38today. Um, I came or I didn't come. I

1:17:42had a representative come um October 5th

1:17:46and you asked me to come back. Um,

1:17:51you asked that I have a management

1:17:54company when I come back. So, I have a

1:17:57management company. But I also wanted to

1:18:00correct the record [clears throat]

1:18:02because it was stated that I had listed

1:18:06the property for over a year. I think it

1:18:09was stated without a permit and that was

1:18:11not correct. Um the property was listed

1:18:15long-term

1:18:17um all of 25

1:18:19and till April of 2026.

1:18:26So,

1:18:28um, and then I wanted to ask if the

1:18:31board could kindly reconsider

1:18:35requiring me to have a management

1:18:38company. Um,

1:18:40I do have a management company. Um, I

1:18:44own some rentals in Oklahoma City, also

1:18:49in California and Florida, and I managed

1:18:52them all myself.

1:18:54and to turn it over to a local

1:18:57management company in my opinion just on

1:19:00my experience would be a mistake. I

1:19:03think I will have more problems if I do

1:19:05that. Um on Airbnb they offer something

1:19:09that's called autobooking.

1:19:12That means anybody can just book it

1:19:15instantly.

1:19:17And

1:19:18me as an owner,

1:19:21I ask to review every single booking

1:19:24that comes in cuz I want to know who's

1:19:27going to be in my home, what their

1:19:29purpose is, etc.

1:19:32Um, all of the properties or the two

1:19:34that are in Oklahoma City have five-star

1:19:38reviews with no code violations.

1:19:42Same for California. five-star reviews,

1:19:46no code violations. Um, the properties

1:19:49that I have here in Oklahoma consist of

1:19:53multif family, single family. I manage

1:19:56all those myself with no code

1:19:58violations. Obviously, they're not

1:20:00Airbnbs,

1:20:02but um I just feel that to turn it over

1:20:07and to be asked to turn it over when

1:20:10there haven't been any issues. I do

1:20:12acknowledge that for a short period of

1:20:14time um I inadvertently

1:20:18um did accept some short-term bookings

1:20:22and I take responsibility for that but I

1:20:25have taken steps to make sure that that

1:20:29does not happen again.

1:20:33>> Thank you. Um no one had signed up to

1:20:36speak on this case. Does anyone from the

1:20:38audience want to speak on this case?

1:20:41Seeing none, um anything from the board?

1:20:45And I'll start by saying that

1:20:51um you had a special exception prior to

1:20:54this. You

1:20:56>> I'm sorry.

1:20:56>> You did get a special exception in 2024.

1:20:59>> Yes, sir.

1:21:00>> And then it lapsed in in 2025.

1:21:04And so what made you then come back for

1:21:07a special exception again?

1:21:10So, um I had a I'll just give you I

1:21:15brought this. I know this is a lot, but

1:21:18um

1:21:20there was an issue. I had a long-term

1:21:23professor that worked at OU that stayed

1:21:27in the property the latter part of 25

1:21:30and she was supposed to stay till the

1:21:33end of

1:21:3426

1:21:36and they cancelled her contract

1:21:40I think midappril

1:21:42and so this property I haven't really

1:21:46gotten a lot of short-term requests

1:21:51um mainly It's been longterm, but I like

1:21:54to keep the license just in case like in

1:21:59this situation, she just unexpectedly

1:22:02this

1:22:03job just didn't renew. So, I keep it for

1:22:06that reason. But, um,

1:22:12and I provided the lease agreements. I

1:22:15didn't print the whole lease because it

1:22:17was like 78 pages, but I just printed

1:22:20like the first part so you could see the

1:22:24signature and that it was in fact under

1:22:26long-term contract. So, I just wanted to

1:22:28correct the record that I wasn't just

1:22:31running a mug with no permit that for

1:22:35all of 25 and 26 it was rented.

1:22:47Thanks. Uh, anything from the board?

1:23:25anything on the internet or anything?

1:23:28Sarah,

1:23:35>> I mean, I've been sicker on this. So,

1:23:38>> as you have um Sarah, I don't want to

1:23:42ask you to leave again, but it really

1:23:44would be helpful if we knew the last

1:23:46month's

1:23:48bookings on this case.

1:23:49>> Yeah, the property was not listed. Um I

1:23:52I that I wasn't here. I had a

1:23:54representative come on my behalf. A very

1:23:57trusted realtor was here and um he

1:24:01didn't really have all the information.

1:24:03So, I flew in today in order to be here.

1:24:06the property was removed um so I could

1:24:10be in compliance but I didn't have to

1:24:12remove it. I I think you meant maybe

1:24:14just adjust the but I took it off for a

1:24:17month

1:24:19>> an entire and that's why I was really

1:24:22wanting her to document it so that they

1:24:23knew I I did I watched the the board

1:24:26hearing from the last time just to

1:24:28refresh myself and yeah that's what was

1:24:30asked. I think also as a property owner

1:24:33from out of state that that we we do

1:24:37like to see property management over the

1:24:39top of it when we find that the

1:24:41properties

1:24:42maybe not managed to the standard that

1:24:44we would expect. and

1:24:48having the long-term lease in there

1:24:49probably made the adjustment to not get

1:24:52the special exception and then not have

1:24:54it

1:24:56licensed and permitted for short-term

1:25:00lease

1:25:02slip by from April till now. But

1:25:07>> no, it did.

1:25:08>> We did just request as as a board one

1:25:11more month to have no listings and then

1:25:14come back for

1:25:17um to hear the case again. That's what

1:25:20was was said.

1:25:21>> Yeah. No, it was taken down from the

1:25:24date that you requested that

1:25:26[clears throat] I take it down. So, it

1:25:27hasn't been up

1:25:29and I think the request was for me to uh

1:25:33obtain a local management company. But

1:25:37again, um I want to say that

1:25:42the reason why I don't have any code

1:25:45violations and the reason why I have

1:25:48five star reviews is because I do the

1:25:52work. I mean, it would be easy for me to

1:25:54just hire a management company and say,

1:25:56"Oh, let let someone else do it." But

1:25:59from my experience in doing this 25

1:26:01years, you better have somebody that you

1:26:05trust um that can um be available when

1:26:11there's a situation. Um I grew up in

1:26:15Oklahoma City. Um I don't live in

1:26:17Oklahoma City now, but I have family

1:26:19that's here. In your packet, the

1:26:22neighbor that lives directly next to me

1:26:25loves the house. And just a little bit

1:26:27of history on this house.

1:26:30Prior to me purchasing it, it was

1:26:33abandoned and there were numerous code

1:26:37violations.

1:26:39And when I bought the house, I

1:26:42completely renovated and all the

1:26:44neighbors were just completely over the

1:26:47moon. I have no issues. They all have my

1:26:49personal phone number and they call me

1:26:53if there's an issue, but Well, and I

1:26:56would say this in this neighborhood with

1:27:00a swimming pool, not having protests is

1:27:03means you are doing a very good job as

1:27:06far as managing it. And

1:27:08>> not that I know the number of short-term

1:27:10leases, but Sarah does now. So,

1:27:13>> yes,

1:27:13>> she can help us.

1:27:14>> Yes. On this episode of Who Wants to Be

1:27:16a Homeshare Host, we used our phone a

1:27:18friend lifeline. And uh on this I I have

1:27:22update on the previous item when you're

1:27:24ready, but on for 601 Glen Cove Place

1:27:27last rental was uh September 27th.

1:27:32>> Yeah,

1:27:35I figured you meant

1:27:37just adjust it, but I went ahead and

1:27:40just complied and took it down for

1:27:42>> Yeah. Sorry. I I did misspeak on that

1:27:44and I'm I've told myself for a month now

1:27:47to not say that and to say to take it

1:27:49down for 30-day and shorter leases. So

1:27:53>> guess my question is if we required a

1:27:56local management company. I'm not sure

1:27:59how the board feels about the request

1:28:01for not having one.

1:28:05>> Oh, you mean today having the owner

1:28:07here?

1:28:09Um, just to clarify,

1:28:10>> I think it was Marcus who actually

1:28:12requested that.

1:28:15>> I'm looking at

1:28:16>> your notes.

1:28:17>> Well, reviewing the actual transcript to

1:28:19find out exactly what transpired.

1:28:24>> And just from my recollection and

1:28:26watching it again, you you Roberto, you

1:28:29said that, you know, you wanted six

1:28:32months, but we both Marcus and I agreed

1:28:35to one and you said grudgingly yes.

1:28:41I can get past that that portion

1:28:43>> that one. Right.

1:28:44>> Right. The the management company

1:28:45management company is what

1:28:47>> which she does have a management company

1:28:48under contract right now.

1:28:51Um I mean I like the idea of management

1:28:54company with a with an out ofstate owner

1:28:55just because it's somebody that you can

1:29:01call and rely on quicker. Um, there's a

1:29:05lot of people that have had the next

1:29:07door neighbor say they would be willing

1:29:09to be that liaison. I I just, you know,

1:29:15you could probably get it. You don't

1:29:16have that with it with you today.

1:29:19>> I don't have what

1:29:20>> that the neighbor would would take care

1:29:21of that for you.

1:29:22>> Yes, there's a letter from the neighbor.

1:29:25She's lived there 50 years and she wrote

1:29:28a letter. it's in

1:29:29>> in the

1:29:30>> the index just saying how they're

1:29:33overjoyed in that neighborhood because

1:29:35like I said the history prior to me

1:29:38purchasing it in 22 was that it was a

1:29:41nightmare for the neighborhood and I I

1:29:43just want to push kind of push back a

1:29:45little bit on the management company

1:29:47that would be unprecedented

1:29:49um and I

1:29:52>> in what way?

1:29:53>> I mean maybe for you but not from us.

1:29:55So, this board has required a a

1:29:57management company multiple times on a

1:29:59mismanaged property that we did approve.

1:30:02>> And we have a management company

1:30:05representatives come all the time on

1:30:06behalf of their owners, whether they're

1:30:08here locally or they're out of state.

1:30:11>> So, it is it is very common here to do

1:30:13that.

1:30:15>> Right. So, I guess for me, having

1:30:19hired

1:30:21uh short-term rental management

1:30:23companies, my experience, I'm sure

1:30:26there's a lot of great ones,

1:30:29but they're not going to

1:30:34take the bookings individually.

1:30:39It's just gonna be a random whoever

1:30:41wants to book, it's gonna be on instant

1:30:44booking. And I just feel like

1:30:50I've put so much into the properties.

1:30:53They're like my babies.

1:30:55And I know that if I relinquish that

1:30:59control to someone else, I don't know

1:31:03what's going to happen.

1:31:05I don't. And as I was calling

1:31:10management companies here in Oklahoma,

1:31:14it it was difficult for me. Now maybe

1:31:18not someone else to get a management

1:31:20company, but for me it was very very

1:31:22difficult.

1:31:24And I just feel that to ask me to do

1:31:28that when I've to this point managed it

1:31:34without any issues and because of my 15

1:31:38years of experience with traditional

1:31:42rentals. Um, and I've tried I've turned

1:31:45them over to management company. In a

1:31:47perfect world, that would be the best

1:31:49scenario for me to just great I got a

1:31:52management company. let them do all the

1:31:54work, but you got to do the work. You

1:31:57got to be available. You got to take the

1:31:59calls. If you don't do that, especially

1:32:02if you're out of state, my experience is

1:32:06that's where the problems come in. So,

1:32:08I've built the relationships over the

1:32:11years. Um, like I said, I grew up in

1:32:14Oklahoma City and I have friends,

1:32:17family, just a network of plumbers,

1:32:22electricians,

1:32:24um, landscapers, pool service providers.

1:32:28I've built these relationships over the

1:32:30years um, so that I can be able to do

1:32:35what I do. So,

1:32:38>> no, you've convinced me. It's it's now

1:32:42Well, I'll just tell where I'm at. I am

1:32:43not willing to approve this if you don't

1:32:46decide to have a management company. And

1:32:48if that's the case, I would recommend m

1:32:50deferring [music] this to December 3rd

1:32:52when you have a larger group of board

1:32:54members.

1:32:55>> I do have two management company

1:32:58contracts.

1:32:59>> Okay.

1:32:59>> In that paperwork. So, I do I did come

1:33:02today with a property management company

1:33:05in place.

1:33:06>> Oh,

1:33:07>> so I did comply with the board's

1:33:09request. She just wants to get rid of

1:33:11them.

1:33:12>> No, I understand. I'm just saying like I

1:33:13I know that the request has been made. I

1:33:16cannot give my approval without you

1:33:19going forward using that property

1:33:21management company as part of the deal.

1:33:26That's how you get my vote today.

1:33:27>> And you need his vote today because

1:33:28there's only three of us.

1:33:30>> I'm sorry.

1:33:31>> I said and you'll need his vote today

1:33:32because there's only three of us. So

1:33:33there has to be three votes for any

1:33:35action to be taken on an item.

1:33:39So,

1:33:41>> and I'll also say this. So, the first

1:33:43time, and this is a new application,

1:33:46even though you had one in 24, it

1:33:47becomes a new application. Again, we

1:33:49always do state that the very first year

1:33:52for an application in a short-term

1:33:55special exception is a trial basis. And

1:33:58so, it all works. 10 months from now, 11

1:34:02months from now, you come back. It it

1:34:05it's on a renewal. and things can be

1:34:08different.

1:34:11>> So, let me just reiterate, like I said

1:34:13before, I understand what you're saying,

1:34:16but my experience

1:34:19having a management company here in

1:34:21Oklahoma

1:34:23may be very different from someone else.

1:34:26I was on the phone for four hours trying

1:34:30to get one management company to just

1:34:34call me back. I would love to have a

1:34:38management company here in Oklahoma.

1:34:41I've tried it numerous times

1:34:45and they just would not manage my prop

1:34:48property correctly. I had numerous

1:34:52problems.

1:34:55>> We have we have

1:34:58property management companies come

1:34:59before the board and we've gotten to

1:35:01know the people and that's what they do.

1:35:04So, for me to hear that you're having

1:35:06trouble finding one when we have them

1:35:10all the time, I think that to me that

1:35:13doesn't line up. I own rentals,

1:35:16long-term rentals here in Oklahoma City,

1:35:19and I still use a property management

1:35:21company cuz I'm not going to manage them

1:35:23myself. So, I I have a hard time hearing

1:35:28the argument that you're having trouble

1:35:31finding one for a short-term purpose.

1:35:33though that I've stated what I'm going

1:35:35to say. Otherwise, I'm I'm going to make

1:35:39a motion to continue and you guys can

1:35:40take this up in a month, which I'm not

1:35:42going to be here.

1:35:45I don't have any code violations. I have

1:35:49five star reviews on all of the

1:35:52properties in Oklahoma as well as

1:35:55California.

1:35:57And

1:35:59that

1:36:01you telling me that I have to have a

1:36:03management company

1:36:06for me

1:36:08is like saying

1:36:10I'm putting my property into someone

1:36:13else's hands and I don't know what's

1:36:16going to happen. And once I have a bad

1:36:19record on this property, say for

1:36:22example, I

1:36:25get a management company and they don't

1:36:28take the calls,

1:36:30I get code violations, and I come back a

1:36:32year later, I can't erase that record.

1:36:35It's there. and that could in essence

1:36:39prevent me from being able to have a um

1:36:44short-term rental here in Oklahoma City.

1:36:47And I can tell you I and I said this

1:36:50before, I would love to have a property

1:36:55management company. That would be easy

1:36:57for me to just hire somebody to handle

1:37:00everything and walk away. But that isn't

1:37:05I might not get the same result. I I

1:37:08don't think I will based on my

1:37:09experience. And I don't want to put

1:37:12myself in a position where we come back

1:37:14a year later and you're telling me you

1:37:16don't want to renew my permit because

1:37:19there's code violations. It's not going

1:37:21to matter whether it's the management

1:37:23company or if it's my fault.

1:37:28And that's what I'm concerned about.

1:37:29Like I said, I did comply. I took the

1:37:32property down for a month and I did I do

1:37:37have two management companies, but I

1:37:41don't know how that's going to go.

1:37:43>> I understand, but that's the only way

1:37:44you're going to get my vote today. So,

1:37:46you get to choose. Do you want me to

1:37:47take the vote today with that

1:37:49requirement or do you want me to defer

1:37:51this to December 3rd?

1:37:55>> I guess I don't really have a choice.

1:37:59You you want to defer this?

1:38:01>> Um

1:38:02>> you do want to defer this.

1:38:04>> Well, not necessarily. I mean, I want to

1:38:06reiterate what Don said earlier, which

1:38:08is you if you do this on a trial basis,

1:38:11you come back here a year from now, this

1:38:13isn't a life sentence. If it's been

1:38:14managed well, there's no requirement

1:38:16that you have to keep the property

1:38:18management company because you get one

1:38:20in this first term. you could come back

1:38:21and with good management history that

1:38:25requirement is removed and you go back

1:38:27to managing the property yourself,

1:38:29>> right?

1:38:30>> I just feel like you're acting as if

1:38:33because I've watched lots of footage of

1:38:37your rulings

1:38:39and

1:38:40the very last time I was here, you made

1:38:43an exception and gave a permit for

1:38:45someone that didn't have a license for a

1:38:48year and a half.

1:38:50And so I feel like I don't mind

1:38:52following the rules, I'll go ahead and

1:38:54have a management company for a year,

1:38:56but if the management company that I

1:38:59that takes it, cuz I called several,

1:39:04none of them wanted to take my property.

1:39:07None of them. They wouldn't even return

1:39:10my phone call. Why that is, I have no

1:39:14idea. So, I just thought it was

1:39:15interesting that I'm being required to

1:39:19have a management company with the

1:39:21property with literally no issues.

1:39:24And if I come back in a year and it's

1:39:27fully managed

1:39:29by a management company

1:39:32and then there's code violations, are

1:39:35you going to make an exception?

1:39:37>> I will be here. So, I'll remember this

1:39:40for sure. It's where I grew up. So,

1:39:43>> cuz it it just it seems it I don't want

1:39:47to say the unfair word, but I'm telling

1:39:50you guys that it has not been easy for

1:39:53me to get a management company to take

1:39:56my property in Oklahoma City.

1:39:59I called

1:40:03lots, at least 20.

1:40:06They hang up the phone. We have

1:40:08management companies come here all the

1:40:10time and if they're denying then I start

1:40:13questioning as to why they would even

1:40:15deny.

1:40:17I mean that's causing me to have other

1:40:19thoughts as to maybe it's not the

1:40:22companies. Maybe there's something with

1:40:23this property specifically that they

1:40:25don't want. So

1:40:27>> what would that be? There's no

1:40:29>> I don't know. You're starting to make me

1:40:31question what what's going on as to why

1:40:33some company that does not do this day

1:40:35in and day out, why they would not take

1:40:38a property

1:40:40>> if it's under

1:40:42if it's got no code violations and

1:40:44there's nothing wrong with it.

1:40:45>> It's not just this one. Like I said,

1:40:47I've I've tried the approach of having

1:40:51management companies before here in

1:40:53Oklahoma City. I have another Airbnb

1:40:56that has no code violations, has a

1:40:58five-star review, and I had a difficult

1:41:02time

1:41:03um

1:41:05having a management company um take

1:41:08[clears throat] the property. So, I

1:41:09don't know what you mean by that. I'm

1:41:13Cuz I mean,

1:41:14>> what I'm saying is if you have a company

1:41:16that focuses and that's all they do is

1:41:18manage short-term rentals and they're

1:41:21not taking your property,

1:41:25you're saying you don't understand,

1:41:26you're having a hard time. But for me,

1:41:27maybe it it starts questioning whether

1:41:31the property itself is going to be

1:41:33difficult to manage or the property

1:41:35owner is difficult to manage. And the

1:41:37fact that you are arguing with me right

1:41:39now and I've told you where I stand,

1:41:43I I take take offense to that. So, you

1:41:46get to choose. Do you want to take the

1:41:49approval today with the property

1:41:52management requirement in place or do

1:41:54you want to defer to December 3rd?

1:41:57>> Yeah, I'll I'll take the I I'll have it.

1:42:01>> Okay. I'll make approval or I'll make a

1:42:04motion then to approve case number 16369

1:42:07for the purpose that it meets the

1:42:08statutory requirements for the request

1:42:10of special exceptions with the

1:42:12requirement that the applicant will use

1:42:15a professional management company.

1:42:19>> Second.

1:42:21>> We have a motion.

1:42:23>> We have a motion and a second

1:42:28vote.

1:42:32and it passes. Good luck.

1:42:35>> Thank you.

1:42:36>> We're going to go back to case number

1:42:3816196,

1:42:40item number 14, an application by

1:42:42Melissa Eisman on behalf of 32 Group LLC

1:42:45to allow home sharing at 1217 Northeast

1:42:4915th Street.

1:42:55>> Thanks. Just start again with your name.

1:42:56Yes.

1:42:57>> Cynthia Cardi.

1:42:59Cynthia Cardi, K A R T Y,

1:43:02>> and address

1:43:03>> 6417 South Harvey Place, Oklahoma City,

1:43:0673139.

1:43:12>> Sarah, you have

1:43:12>> Sarah Welch, Planning Department. And uh

1:43:14yes, we were we confirmed that the last

1:43:17rental on this was back on October 2nd.

1:43:22>> And also, it's blocked off and not

1:43:23available to um rent right now.

1:43:29You good? All right. Make a motion to

1:43:32approve case number 1619. Before

1:43:33>> Before you do, make a motion. I just

1:43:35wanted to go over the case because we

1:43:36didn't go over the case prior.

1:43:38>> I thought we did.

1:43:39>> Or did we?

1:43:39>> We did.

1:43:40>> We did.

1:43:40>> I wrote Perfect.

1:43:41>> Notated.

1:43:42>> Okay. Yeah.

1:43:42>> All right. Make a motion to approve case

1:43:44number 16196 for the purpose that it

1:43:47meets the statuto requirements for the

1:43:49requested special exceptions with the

1:43:51following modifications. This will be

1:43:53for a term of one year. Quad hours from

1:43:55900 p p.m. to 8 am at three car maximum

1:43:58and no on street parking.

1:44:01We have a motion and a second

1:44:03and it

1:44:06oh unavailable and it passes.

1:44:10Getting ahead of myself.

1:44:11>> Have a good day.

1:44:12>> Thanks.

1:44:13>> Go to item number 16. Case number 16382

1:44:16is an application by Lad Alvarado on

1:44:19behalf of Elite Real Estate Group LLC to

1:44:21allow home sharing located at 2036

1:44:24Northwest 17th Street.

1:44:27>> Good afternoon. My name is Lisa

1:44:28Alvarado. I'm here for a renewal for the

1:44:31special exception at 20 36 Northwest um

1:44:3517th Street. Um, basically same rules,

1:44:40seven guests, quiet hours remain the

1:44:42same, no street parking. Um,

1:44:46just the same as last year.

1:44:55No one has signed up to speak on this.

1:44:57Does anyone from the audience want to

1:44:59speak on this case? Nope.

1:45:02Anything from the board?

1:45:06Did we put a maximum number of vehicles

1:45:08there? Do you remember?

1:45:09>> Uh, I believe it was four.

1:45:10>> Four.

1:45:11>> Okay. Just want that stated.

1:45:17It's a timely renewal three-year term.

1:45:21>> Good.

1:45:22>> Okay. Uh, make a motion to approve.

1:45:28Sorry. Case number. All right. Motion to

1:45:32approve case number 16382 for the

1:45:34purpose that it meets the statutory

1:45:35requirements for the requested special

1:45:37exception. Uh this will be for a term of

1:45:40three years and just to confirm for car

1:45:42maximum on it.

1:45:44>> Second.

1:45:45>> We have a motion a second but when

1:45:46available

1:45:56>> it passes.

1:45:57>> Okay. Thank you. Item number 17, case

1:46:00number 16383, is an application by Lisad

1:46:04Alvarado on behalf of 10313 Plymouth LLC

1:46:07to allow home sharing located at 10313

1:46:11Plymouth Court. Uh Lisad Alvarado, this

1:46:14is a renewal application for this

1:46:16special exception at um 10313 Playout

1:46:20Court. um asking for renewal again. Um

1:46:24same rules. Um no street parking, seven

1:46:27guests maxed, four cars at this house.

1:46:31Um

1:46:33that's all I'm asking.

1:46:37>> Nobody had signed up to speak on this.

1:46:39Did anyone from the audience want to

1:46:41speak on this case? No. Anything from

1:46:43the board?

1:46:46No. I'd like to make a revision to the

1:46:48quiet hours from 8 to 8 8:00 p.m. to

1:46:518:00 a.m. as a swimming pool. Like to

1:46:53reduce those and then no street parking.

1:46:57>> Mhm.

1:46:58>> And the terms 3 years for a timely

1:47:01renewal.

1:47:07>> Make a motion to approve case number

1:47:0916383 for the purpose that it meets the

1:47:11statutory requirements. Further request

1:47:13a special exception with the following

1:47:15modifications. Uh, make sure it's a

1:47:17fourc car maximum quiet hours from 8:00

1:47:19p.m. to 8 8 a.m. No on street park in 3

1:47:23years.

1:47:24>> Second.

1:47:25>> Motion and a second.

1:47:29Vote when available

1:47:33and it passes.

1:47:34>> Okay. Thank you.

1:47:36Item number 18, case number 16394 is an

1:47:39application by Robin and Taylor to allow

1:47:42home sharing located at 222 Northeast

1:47:4514th Street.

1:47:47>> Hi, I'm Robin Taylor at 17202 Highway 33

1:47:50in Durham, Oklahoma. And I am here for a

1:47:53renewal on a special exception for 222

1:47:56Northeast 14th Street.

1:48:00Nobody had signed up to speak on this.

1:48:01Does anyone from the audience wish to

1:48:03speak on this case?

1:48:05Nope.

1:48:07Anything from commissioners

1:48:09or sorry board members?

1:48:16Um,

1:48:18it's a four bedroomedroom house. Nine

1:48:20people maximum quiet hours from 9:00

1:48:23p.m. to 8:00 a.m.

1:48:25Maximum number of vehicles to be four.

1:48:27No on street parking in terms three

1:48:29years.

1:48:30>> Do we put no on street during overnight?

1:48:33I know it's what's what's in the

1:48:34application.

1:48:37>> Yeah.

1:48:37>> You want to keep that?

1:48:38>> Yeah.

1:48:43>> Nothing else. Make a motion to approve

1:48:45case number 16394 for the purpose that

1:48:48it meets the statutory requirements for

1:48:49the special exception um with the

1:48:52following modifications. Four car

1:48:53maximum for a term of three years.

1:48:56>> Second.

1:48:59We have a motion and a second.

1:49:02Vote when available.

1:49:06>> It passes. Okay.

1:49:07>> Thank you.

1:49:11>> Item number 19, case number 16395,

1:49:15is an application by Joe Edward Ellis to

1:49:17allow home sharing located at 700

1:49:20Northwest 114th Street.

1:49:23>> Hi, my name is Joe Ellis. I'm here for a

1:49:27special exception. Uh,

1:49:28>> can

1:49:29>> you state your address? Your home

1:49:30address, please.

1:49:30>> It is 512 Northwest

1:49:34157th Street in Edmund, Oklahoma.

1:49:39I'm here for a special uh exception to a

1:49:42home sharing uh at 700 Northwest 114th

1:49:47Street, Oklahoma City.

1:49:51>> Thank you. Nobody had signed up to

1:49:53speak. Does anyone from the audience

1:49:54wish to speak on this case? No.

1:49:57Anything from board members?

1:50:03I will just say it's a it's a

1:50:05fourbedroom home and I'd like to see the

1:50:07maximum number of guests to be nine

1:50:09instead of 10.

1:50:10>> Yes, that's what we did last year.

1:50:12>> Okay. Um quiet hours from 9:00 p.m. to 8

1:50:15a.m. which is stated.

1:50:18number of vehicles to be [music] five,

1:50:20maximum of five with no on street

1:50:22parking and the term would be three

1:50:24years on a timely renewal.

1:50:26>> Yes, five.

1:50:31>> Okay. All right. Make a motion to

1:50:33approve case number 16395 for the

1:50:35purpose that it meets the statutory

1:50:37requirements for the special exception

1:50:39with the following modifications.

1:50:41Maximum number of guests shall be shall

1:50:43be nine. Five car maximum no on street

1:50:46parking for a term of three years.

1:50:49Motion and a second.

1:50:52Vote when able.

1:50:56>> It passes.

1:50:57>> Thanks.

1:51:01>> Item number 20, case number 16396

1:51:04is an application by Brett Montage to

1:51:06allow home sharing located at 1434

1:51:09Northwest 35th Street.

1:51:12>> Hi, I'm Brett Monte.

1:51:14address is 1434

1:51:17Northwest 35th Street, Oklahoma City. I

1:51:19am the owner of the property and I'll be

1:51:21living on property. Also,

1:51:24there is a garage apartment in the back

1:51:28that um when we purchased the property

1:51:31in February that was to us as an

1:51:34apartment. Um it is been completely

1:51:37renovated, kitchen, bath, and

1:51:38everything. So, we'd like to use it as a

1:51:41home sharing because we will want to use

1:51:44it sometimes for when our family comes

1:51:46to town as a place to stay. So, we kind

1:51:49of wanted to do that way instead of

1:51:51doing a long-term rental.

1:51:55>> Thank you. Uh, no one had signed up to

1:51:57speak. Does anyone speak on this case?

1:52:00Seeing none, anything from the board?

1:52:06It's a one-bedroom garage apartment, so

1:52:10maximum number of guests might be

1:52:12considered. He's asking for four. Good

1:52:15with four.

1:52:18>> You know, I'm at three.

1:52:19>> I figured. So, we would like to make the

1:52:22maximum number of guests to be three.

1:52:24Should be two plus the one. Um,

1:52:28quiet hours from 9:00 pm to 8 a.m.

1:52:30>> Okay.

1:52:33Um maximum number of vehicles to be one

1:52:35with no additional on street parking and

1:52:38the [snorts] term would be one year.

1:52:39>> Okay.

1:52:46>> Felt like you were testing him

1:52:49on the floor. You knew he was going to

1:52:50say three.

1:52:52Um motion to approve case number 16396

1:52:56for the purpose that it meets the

1:52:58statutory requirements for the special

1:52:59exceptions with the following

1:53:01modifications. Maximum number guest

1:53:03shall be shall be three crowd hours from

1:53:059:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. One car maximum

1:53:08no on street parking for a term of one

1:53:10year.

1:53:11>> Second

1:53:11>> motion and a second vote when able.

1:53:17>> It passes.

1:53:18>> Thanks.

1:53:19>> Mhm. Number 21 was continued till

1:53:22January 7th.

1:53:25Item number 22, case number 16398, is an

1:53:28application by Elizabeth and Galenbeck

1:53:31to allow home sharing located at 1972

1:53:35Southeast 163rd Street.

1:53:39>> Hi, my name is Elizabeth Gillanbeck.

1:53:41Okay. Um, we own the property at 19727

1:53:45Southeast 163rd and also the property

1:53:50right next door, but we're renting the

1:53:5219727 as a short-term rental. And we're

1:53:55wanting to renew um the home share

1:53:59rental uh

1:54:02uh permit.

1:54:07Um,

1:54:10we've we've had it for a year. Have had

1:54:12any complaints. I've got um

1:54:17Do you have this? Pass this out. I'd

1:54:19like to pass this out. We've got

1:54:20pictures.

1:54:29Very nervous

1:54:31of the property. And um also we've had

1:54:3710 our reviews have been 10 out of 10.

1:54:41We've had people re wanting to rent

1:54:44again for next year. The hosts have been

1:54:46thoughtful, provided every amenity

1:54:48necessary. Uh the hosts have welcomed my

1:54:51family, ensured we had everything. We

1:54:54live right next door to the property. Um

1:54:59uh they're amazing. Um,

1:55:02everyone that comes loves the property

1:55:05and um

1:55:08um we just we want to renew renew the

1:55:12license.

1:55:15>> Okay. So, this this will be a a one-year

1:55:18or a new license because it's out of it

1:55:21was out out of the time frame for a

1:55:24renewal

1:55:25>> by one.

1:55:26>> Yes. And we were new at this and I did

1:55:28not realize I thought we had

1:55:31Yeah. So it just before next time just

1:55:34before the whole year's up, give them

1:55:37six weeks to get the get the application

1:55:40started and through and it'll get

1:55:42docketed right before it'll term.

1:55:46>> Okay.

1:55:47>> Um and you're the only person who signed

1:55:49up to speak on this and does anyone from

1:55:51the audience wish to speak on this case?

1:55:54No. Um anything from the board?

1:55:59I just to go over the application. I'd

1:56:02like to make a few few uh adjustments to

1:56:06it. It's it's a four bedroomedroom home

1:56:08with two baths. So the maximum number of

1:56:11guests for me would be nine.

1:56:13>> Okay. We had 14 last year.

1:56:15>> Yeah.

1:56:16>> Okay.

1:56:17>> Sorry.

1:56:20>> How'd that sneak through the cracks? But

1:56:22anyway,

1:56:25>> yeah. Don't know. But so we go two per

1:56:28bedroom plus one is kind of where we we

1:56:31are on a maximum number of guests.

1:56:33>> Okay. My husband built amazing bunk bed.

1:56:38I wish I had a picture of that. There

1:56:40are two queens and two twin beds.

1:56:44So can you pull it up? It is amazing.

1:56:48[laughter]

1:56:49So that right there sleeps one, two,

1:56:51three, four, five, six in the and it's a

1:56:54large room. And um then we have

1:56:57>> large open.

1:56:58>> Yes.

1:56:58>> Open.

1:57:00>> You can see on the pictures. Do you have

1:57:01the

1:57:03um and also um upstairs in the bedrooms,

1:57:09they're large bedrooms. We have a queen

1:57:11bed and then we also have a couch that

1:57:14pulls out for maybe a child.

1:57:19Do you have that? I've got it.

1:57:23>> Can I find my picture of that bunk room?

1:57:30>> How did you get that?

1:57:31>> How did it get through?

1:57:32>> I don't know. I do not remember this.

1:57:34That's why I was kind of surprised. That

1:57:36was last year.

1:57:37>> Sorry,

1:57:39I should have had a picture of that.

1:57:41>> The property on a large plot of land

1:57:44>> on acorage, right? But still would

1:57:46>> Yeah. All right. Um, and the quiet

1:57:49hours, I'd like to revise them or or to

1:57:51add quiet hours from 9:00 p.m. to 8:00

1:57:52a.m.

1:57:54>> So, that's the twin bed and that's the

1:57:56two queen beds. They're right next to

1:57:58>> I think we're allowed to go up to two

1:58:01two per plus two, right?

1:58:03>> Yeah.

1:58:04>> It's up to Marcus on that.

1:58:15It's listed as a four bedroomedroom, two

1:58:16bath.

1:58:16>> Yeah, I mean it's pretty nice, but

1:58:20>> I see it.

1:58:23>> Yeah, I saw

1:58:24>> I I know exactly what you're talking

1:58:27about.

1:58:27>> Yeah, I mean it's clear that your

1:58:29husband is very talented and it is a

1:58:30nice bed, but the the policy has been uh

1:58:34two per bedroom plus one. We can go up

1:58:36to two, but just for consistency,

1:58:39my vote is going to be to keep it at two

1:58:41plus bedroom, two per bedroom plus one,

1:58:44just this to not have any favoritism

1:58:46between the various cases.

1:58:48>> Okay.

1:58:51>> And I'll just restate. I would like to

1:58:53see the quiet hours from 9:00 p.m. to

1:58:548:00 a.m.

1:58:55>> Yes.

1:58:55>> And then the maximum number of vehicles

1:58:57to be four.

1:58:59>> Uhhuh.

1:59:00>> Uh,

1:59:02and the term would be one year.

1:59:04>> Okay.

1:59:06There there was a written protest on

1:59:08there. I just wanted to kind of limit

1:59:09the number of vehicles going up and down

1:59:11the road.

1:59:11>> Yes.

1:59:12>> Since it was a gravel road.

1:59:14>> And we do we maintain 163rd Street. Um

1:59:20we have a large family. I'm involved in

1:59:23church. We have our church group there.

1:59:25It's our home away from home as well.

1:59:27And so um it's not only used for the

1:59:32VBO. So, and people like I had a baby

1:59:35shower. There was probably 30 people

1:59:37there, you know, for our family two

1:59:40weeks ago and our church I I do small

1:59:44group and our small group comes. We have

1:59:46Christmas. So, there is going to be

1:59:48traffic but the issue is the HOA. I will

1:59:51just put it that way and we do maintain

1:59:54our road and and part of Amber. So,

1:59:59>> yeah, I just think for the the the issue

2:00:01of the short-term lease and and the

2:00:03special exception just to limit the

2:00:05stayover at night to to nine.

2:00:08>> Okay. So, okay.

2:00:12>> Make a motion to approve case number

2:00:1516398 for the purpose that it meets the

2:00:17statuto requirements for the requested

2:00:19special exception with the following

2:00:21modifications. Maximum number of guests

2:00:23shall be nine quiet hours from 9:00 p.m.

2:00:25to 8:00 a.m. Four car maximum for a term

2:00:27of one year.

2:00:28>> Okay.

2:00:29>> Second.

2:00:34>> We have a motion and a second. Vote when

2:00:36able.

2:00:39>> It passes.

2:00:40>> Thank you.

2:00:42>> Item number 23, case number 16399 is an

2:00:46application for home sharing located at

2:00:486704 Tall Oaks Drive.

2:00:55Hello, my name is Sandy Vo. Thank you so

2:00:57much for hearing about us. Um, this is

2:00:58my mom, Tonran. I'll be um helping her

2:01:01with any translations or anything like

2:01:03that. Um, our current resident right now

2:01:05is 4608 Northwest 30th Street, Oklahoma

2:01:09City, Oklahoma 73122.

2:01:11And we're um asking for a request of a

2:01:14special exception at the resident 6704

2:01:18Tall Oaks Drive.

2:01:22for um to be listed on Airbnb.

2:01:26>> Thank you. Uh nobody had signed up to

2:01:28speak on this case. Does anyone from the

2:01:29audience wish to speak on this case?

2:01:31Nope.

2:01:32>> Uh anything from the board members.

2:01:35There was one written protest on this.

2:01:37Did you see that? I

2:01:39>> It's in the packet. Uh we can get you a

2:01:42copy of that if you'd like.

2:01:45Um,

2:01:53just to go over the application, um,

2:01:56it's a three bedroomedroom, three bath

2:01:59home.

2:02:01>> Wow.

2:02:02>> Yeah. Yes.

2:02:03>> That's what it was listed as. Um, I'd

2:02:05say for the maximum number of guests,

2:02:07you have a eight. I I would go with

2:02:08seven.

2:02:09>> Seven. Okay.

2:02:11Um, I'd add quiet hours from 9:00 p.m.

2:02:13to 8:00 a.m.

2:02:15Uh, the maximum number of vehicles to be

2:02:17four with no on street parking

2:02:21and the term would be one year.

2:02:25>> Awesome. And then with the the protest,

2:02:28how will we be able to

2:02:30>> if you I mean there's an email on there,

2:02:32so you could probably reach out to them

2:02:34and just

2:02:36>> Is there an email on there?

2:02:38>> No, it's their HOA. Uh, so it's just the

2:02:41HOA within the neighborhood. They're

2:02:43just requesting that you don't have it.

2:02:44Nothing is specific about the property

2:02:46itself. Yeah.

2:02:47>> Just the request to not have HOA or

2:02:49sorry, have short-term exceptions and

2:02:52short-term leases within the

2:02:53neighborhood.

2:02:54>> Okay. So, we just need to contact them

2:02:56and then get it figured out that was the

2:02:58case.

2:02:59>> I don't think you have to.

2:03:00>> You don't even have to contact them,

2:03:01right?

2:03:01>> Okay.

2:03:02>> It's just to know that they that the

2:03:03neighborhood has done it to protest the

2:03:06the application.

2:03:08Sounds good. Um, is there anything else

2:03:11that I need to do? Just like

2:03:15>> No, I think I think it's good.

2:03:18>> If you're good with all the revisions to

2:03:20the application, then we're good. And

2:03:22he'll repeat them all.

2:03:23>> Okay. I'll make a motion to approve case

2:03:25number 16399 for the purpose that it

2:03:27meets the statutory requirements for the

2:03:30special exceptions with the following

2:03:31modifications. Maximum number of guests

2:03:34shall be seven. a fourc car maximum with

2:03:37no on street parking, quiet hours from

2:03:40900 pm to 8:00 a.m. and for a term of

2:03:43one year.

2:03:45>> Awesome. Thank you so much.

2:03:46>> We have a motion and a second. Vote when

2:03:48available.

2:03:53>> And it passes.

2:03:55>> Thank you. Thank you.

2:03:58Item number 24, case number 16400,

2:04:01is an application by Anthony Todd Potter

2:04:04on behalf of 1628 South Douglas Avenue

2:04:08LLC to allow home sharing at 1628 South

2:04:12Douglas Avenue.

2:04:14>> Good afternoon. My name is Anthony Todd

2:04:16Potter. My wife and I are the owners of

2:04:17property located at 1628 South Douglas

2:04:20Avenue, 73108 in the Wheeler District.

2:04:23Uh we're currently operating a home uh

2:04:25sharing license issued early this year

2:04:27and I'm here today to respectfully

2:04:28request renewal of our previously

2:04:30approved special exception for home

2:04:31sharing short-term rental operations.

2:04:33During my original hearing, I was

2:04:35encouraged by this board, I believe you,

2:04:37sir, to uh seek my approval early for my

2:04:40renewal and I took that heed advice and

2:04:43here I am today. Um, since operating in

2:04:46Febru since February, we started

2:04:47operations and we've operated the

2:04:49property professionally, managed

2:04:51three-bedroom rental with a maximum

2:04:52occupancy of se six guests, established

2:04:55house rules, and kept the quiet hours 98

2:04:57based on what what was requested. Uh, I

2:05:00believe our first year has been very

2:05:01successful. We've demonstrated that we

2:05:03can responsibly operate a high quality

2:05:04professionally, manage short-term rental

2:05:06property. We've invested significantly

2:05:08in the property and maintain active

2:05:10oversight and establish clear guest

2:05:12expectations. And currently we received

2:05:15an excellent feedback from our guests

2:05:17with 14 out of 14 five-star reviews with

2:05:19no complaints received from our

2:05:21surrounding neighbors. I'm respectly

2:05:23requesting your approval for our renewal

2:05:25and I'm happy to answer any questions.

2:05:28>> Thank you. Uh nobody signed up to speak

2:05:30on this. Does anyone from the audience

2:05:32wish to speak on this application? No.

2:05:34Um

2:05:37the only thing I would ask is did I put

2:05:39a maximum number of vehicles on this

2:05:40last time? Do you know? Um what you

2:05:42mentioned sir was the the Wheeler

2:05:43district is known for

2:05:45>> right there street parking and it's it's

2:05:47kind of first come first go I I um and

2:05:50there was no other

2:05:52>> limits in that respect. It was you

2:05:54mentioned that it was kind of open to

2:05:56street parking.

2:05:57>> Yep. And so it's a timely renewal grant

2:06:01a three-year

2:06:02>> uh exception on this and you probably

2:06:05don't need to come four months early or

2:06:07three months early.

2:06:08>> Fair enough. [laughter]

2:06:10Six weeks is plenty probably,

2:06:12>> right? Well, I I was worried about the

2:06:14holidays and getting all my stuff in and

2:06:16I

2:06:17>> Three years from now is a long time. So,

2:06:19do remember.

2:06:20>> Understood.

2:06:23>> Good.

2:06:23>> Yep.

2:06:24>> All right. Make a motion to approve case

2:06:25number 16400 for the f for the purpose

2:06:28that it meets the statuto requirements

2:06:30for the special exception uh for a term

2:06:33of three years.

2:06:34>> Second.

2:06:36[snorts]

2:06:40We have a motion and a second.

2:06:44Vote enable

2:06:47passes.

2:06:48>> Thank you very much. You guys have a

2:06:49great holiday. Appreciate it.

2:06:50>> Thanks.

2:06:51>> Now your voice. I said hi.

2:06:53>> We'll do

2:06:54>> teacher.

2:06:55>> Yes,

2:06:55>> that's right.

2:06:56>> Yes. Alex and Landon.

2:06:57>> Yep.

2:06:59Yeah. You were the gifted and talented

2:07:01teacher. Correct.

2:07:04>> Hello.

2:07:05Item number 25 is case number 16401, an

2:07:09application by Amber Wy to allow home

2:07:11sharing located at 21105 Pine Creek

2:07:15Avenue.

2:07:16>> Okay. So, my address is 21105 Pine Creek

2:07:19Avenue in Yukon, but we are

2:07:21transitioning to a home 5 acres. So,

2:07:23we're looking to do we had a home share

2:07:25license since August. We're looking to

2:07:27transition it to a full-time Airbnb now.

2:07:31Um, now that we've are going to be

2:07:33moving to the other property, um, I went

2:07:36ahead and brought, um,

2:07:47that has come with some irritated

2:07:51neighbors obviously. Um, so that being

2:07:54said, uh, kind of a control freak. I

2:07:57will be the manager, the pool boy, the

2:07:59yard crew. So, I make sure all is taken

2:08:02care of. I'm friends with lots of

2:08:04neighbors. They have my number. I live

2:08:0620 minutes away now, so they can contact

2:08:09me and I urge them to do so. We have met

2:08:12all safety requirements. We have

2:08:14exterior cameras that alert me when any

2:08:17movements occurred. We have no doing

2:08:19dumb stuff around the pool signs to

2:08:23alleviate that. We have a decibel

2:08:25monitor placed in our backyard to deter

2:08:28from partying. Any questions?

2:08:33>> Sounds like you're good for success.

2:08:35[laughter]

2:08:35>> I will. Uh, no one has signed up for

2:08:38this application and there's nobody left

2:08:41in the audience to speak on it. So,

2:08:44anything from you guys? The only thing I

2:08:46would do is on the the maximum number of

2:08:49guests, you probably have heard it's a

2:08:50fourbedroom home. So, I'd reduce it to

2:08:52nine.

2:08:53>> Sure.

2:08:53>> Uh, quiet hours from 8 to 8.

2:08:56>> I do that because there's a swimming

2:08:58pool.

2:08:58>> Uhhuh. Um

2:09:01the maximum number of vehicles,

2:09:04six, which is probably plenty. Uh

2:09:09>> we provide them with the garage remotes

2:09:10too and everything.

2:09:11>> Yeah. Two in the garage and

2:09:14four out.

2:09:15>> Even though it's not against any rules,

2:09:17we have instructed them no street

2:09:18parking either. Just the tight quarters.

2:09:20>> Yep. I'll add no street parking to it.

2:09:22And then the terms one year is first

2:09:24time.

2:09:25>> Perfect.

2:09:27>> Good. Make a motion to approve case

2:09:30number 16401 for the purpose that it

2:09:33meets a special the requirements for

2:09:35special exceptions [music] with the

2:09:36following modifications. Maximum number

2:09:38of guests shall be nine quiet hours from

2:09:408:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. Six car maximum

2:09:43two in the garage, four in the driveway,

2:09:45and no on street parking and for a term

2:09:48of one year.

2:09:49>> Second.

2:09:51>> We have a motion and a second. Vote when

2:09:54available

2:09:58and it passes.

2:09:59>> Perfect.

2:10:00>> Good luck. Sorry you were last or

2:10:02>> I thought it was my last name. So I was

2:10:05blaming my last name but it wasn't. It

2:10:07was my number.

2:10:10>> Item number.

2:10:14>> You go the mic. Sorry. People to be

2:10:18heard.

2:10:19>> Hello. So they just reached out to me.

2:10:21their house got electrocuted in Mustang,

2:10:23which is right by Yukon. And so they

2:10:25were like, "Well, could we rent it for a

2:10:27year? I'm still within my rights to do

2:10:28so if we choose not to exercise it as a

2:10:31short-term rental." Right.

2:10:33>> Yes.

2:10:33>> We have no purview over anything longer

2:10:36than 30 days.

2:10:37>> Perfect. Okay. Just wanted to verify

2:10:39that is all.

2:10:40>> Enjoy the rest of your day.

2:10:42>> Goodbye.

2:10:46>> Item number 26 must continue till

2:10:48December 3rd.

2:10:51And item number 27

2:10:54was continued.

2:10:55>> Perfect.

2:10:57>> I'm guessing somebody's going to be

2:10:59looking for this.

2:11:00>> I'm sure they will.

2:11:06>> No additional items. We do have

2:11:09additional items.

2:11:11>> Other business.

2:11:13Another business

2:11:19>> to adopt the 2027 schedule regular

2:11:23meetings for the board of adjustment.

2:11:24>> Oh, good.

2:11:29>> Oh, mine's not open.

2:11:31>> Don't make a motion to approve the

2:11:33proposed dates. Make a motion to approve

2:11:37the proposed uh 2027 board of adjustment

2:11:42uh hearing dates.

2:11:44>> Second.

2:11:46>> We have a motion and a second vote when

2:11:48available.

2:11:50I haven't seen them, so I'm going with

2:11:52you guys. Roberto won't be here.

2:11:54>> I don't even know. Roberto should get to

2:11:56weigh in [laughter] on

2:11:57>> meeting.

2:11:58>> Sounds good to me.

2:12:04And yeah,

2:12:05>> bitter a bittersweet last move motion,

2:12:08right?

2:12:12>> Our penants. It passes.

2:12:18>> No board committees. Anything from any

2:12:19board members?

2:12:21>> Well, is this is our last meeting with

2:12:22you?

2:12:24>> So, I don't know. I have not put in my

2:12:26formal resignation, but I don't think

2:12:29that it would be wise for me to be on

2:12:31this board during the legislative

2:12:33session. So, I need to talk to Mike uh

2:12:35formally as to what will happen and then

2:12:38I am out December. I'll be missing that

2:12:41meeting.

2:12:43>> So, this may be my last one.

2:12:45>> Well, if it is, it has been a pleasure

2:12:47to serve with you.

2:12:48>> Or maybe I'll come for the first in

2:12:49January to help Mike out.

2:12:51>> Yeah.

2:12:51>> So, we'll see. I I don't know yet.

2:12:57>> Well, congratulations on the win. I was

2:13:01watching it and seeing it tick and do

2:13:04its thing and wondering. But

2:13:06>> yeah,

2:13:07>> you won. I mean, it was probably easier

2:13:08for me to watch it than you, but you won

2:13:10handily. So, [laughter]

2:13:12>> we knew we knew the unofficial numbers.

2:13:14It was still a lot closer than I think

2:13:16we would have wanted. So, but yeah,

2:13:20appreciate it.

2:13:22>> Yeah.

2:13:24Anything from municipal counselor?

2:13:31I just being touched. Then we are

2:13:34ajourned.

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