2026-10-08 - Oklahoma City Economic Development Trust
Summary
Based on auto-generated captions; names and numbers may be misheard. The caption timeline starts at 4:49 with room noise; the meeting was called to order at about 4:57.
Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk):
| Topic | Minutes | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Buc-ee's Travel Center Infrastructure Funding | 15 | 60% |
| Shields Plaza Mixed-Use Redevelopment | 9 | 36% |
| Other business | 1 | 4% |
- Thursday, October 8, 2026, adjourned at about 29:36 on the caption timeline.
- Both items for individual consideration passed on electronic votes; the captions do not give a tally or any dissent.
- The Buc-ee's item was heard by the City Council on October 13.
Shields Plaza Mixed-Use Redevelopment
5:10-13:57
- Item 2A: joint resolution approving up to $13 million from an increment district (captioned "B") of the South Oklahoma City Economic Development Project Plan. Sudel said the deal depends on the South Oklahoma City TIF district being created, which still needs City Council action; it has been through the TIF committees and the planning commission.
- Structure: pay-as-you-go. The developer receives 85 percent of the new taxes in years 1 to 5, 75 percent in years 6 to 10 and 30 percent in years 11 to 15, capped at $13 million.
- Okconor (captioned; with Coalign Group, for the developer Zerby Partners) presented an $84.4 million mixed-use project at the northwest corner of I-240 and Shields Boulevard: the old South Shields Plaza shopping center would be torn down for about 77,000 square feet of retail plus a big box anchor (still in negotiation, about $58 million in annual taxable sales), pad sites, and a 305-unit market-rate apartment complex on the north tract. Much of the request is for streets, drainage, water and sewer.
- Developer equity about $33.7 million and debt about $50.6 million. Tax increment would run from a little over $1 million in year one to about $2.25 million in year 25, against a current tax base of about $89,000. Cash-on-cash return is about 2.9 percent in year one without the TIF and 5.7 percent with it, rising to about 12 percent over time.
- A trustee called it a possible driver for an area with little major investment since Crossroads Mall; another praised the housing built into the mixed use. Approved.
Buc-ee's Travel Center Infrastructure Funding
13:57-29:18
- Item 2B: joint resolution allocating up to $12 million of GO bond economic development funds to the city and Water Utilities Trust (captioned "Aquit") for infrastructure near I-40 and Cimarron Road (captioned "Simmeron"). Sudel gave a big-picture presentation because the trust's piece is only part of the package.
- The travel center would be about 74,000 square feet with about 5 million visitors a year, about 200 jobs around $20 an hour, a roughly $50 million build, about $25 million in taxable in-store sales and about $1 million a year in city sales tax (staff called this conservative). No direct incentive is paid to the company; the infrastructure is the incentive.
- Total infrastructure about $57 million, with about $35 million from outside sources: ODOT bridge money ($11.4 million, up to $15 million), up to $5 million from the state Commerce P3 program (repaid over two to three years, so it must be pre-funded), $10 million of federal congestion relief funds, and company contributions ($6 million to the bridge and about $3.2 million to water, sewer and road work). The Airport Trust could add about $1.1 million and the Water Utilities Trust about $13.1 million, both still needing their own approvals. Net cost to the GO funds would be about $7 million.
- The work would also remove sewer lagoons, serve the airport (on septic now) and open the city-assembled employment sites to manufacturers.
- A trustee asked about the footprint (a bit larger than their typical store), the acreage of the area (about 35 acres, to be confirmed) and the sales tax estimate. Another noted the committed versus pending sources; staff listed the remaining approvals (Airport Trust, Water Utilities Trust, a Commerce agreement with the council and an economic development agreement with the company) and said the package would be revisited if a major piece fell through. Approved.
Other business
4:57-5:10, 29:18-29:36
- No staff or trustee comments and no citizens to be heard; adjourned.
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04:49You see that?
04:55>> It is too deep.
04:57>> All right. Good morning. We'll go ahead
04:58and call the meeting to order. Welcome
05:00to the Oklahoma City Economic
05:01Development Trust of October 8th, 2026.
05:05[snorts] We have items for individual
05:08consideration.
05:10Item 2 A
05:14is a joint resolution approving an
05:15allocation not to exceed $13 million
05:18from increment district number B of the
05:21South Oklahoma City. Is that number B or
05:24eight?
05:25>> B.
05:26>> Okay. Of the South Oklahoma City
05:28Economic Development Project Plan in
05:30support of the Shields Plaza mixeduse
05:32redevelopment project. Mr. Sudel.
05:35>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, this one
05:37[clears throat] as it mentions, the
05:39reason it says TIFF B is this uh this
05:42this deal would also be contingent upon
05:44the Southside TIF being created, which
05:46it's in the process. It still has to go
05:48through with council. It's gone through
05:49the TIFF committees and the planning
05:52commission. Um, and then once that
05:56increment district gets activated, it
05:58gets a number at that point. So, just a
06:00reminder, but this this deal would be
06:02structured as a not to exceed uh 13
06:05million. And it would be structured as a
06:07pay as you go tiff that years 1 through
06:09five we return 85% of the taxes. Years 6
06:13through 10 75% years 11 through 15 30%
06:17and the total of that not to exceed 13
06:21uh million. This is [clears throat]
06:23really for a project that's at uh uh
06:26I240 in Shields kind of the northwest
06:29corner. There's an old shopping center
06:31and some vacant property there. And I
06:32think Kathy Okconor is here on behalf of
06:34the developer is going to give you a
06:36presentation about uh the project. So
06:39I'll turn it over to you Kathy.
06:41>> Good morning. I'm Kathy Okconor with the
06:43coalign group um here on behalf of uh
06:46Zerby Partners for this project. We'll
06:48go ahead and get started.
06:50>> It's not up there. There it is. Okay. Um
06:53the project overview is this is a
06:55mixeduse um development that will
06:57include retail, restaurants potentially
07:01um in a multif family development. Uh
07:03we're planning on about an $84.4 million
07:07investment. Um the retail commercial
07:10piece is about 77,000 square feet in
07:13addition to the big box store. Um this
07:16is the location of the current South
07:19Shields Plaza um shopping center. Uh
07:23that shopping center will be torn down
07:25and a new development built at its
07:27place.
07:30So this is just another look at the at
07:32the location. Um Zerby Partners has
07:36purchased that north track and that's
07:38where uh mostly the apartments will be
07:40constructed.
07:43So again, the the components of the
07:45development are a is a big box anchor
07:47store that we're still in negotiations
07:50with. We anticipate that it will have
07:52about $58 million in annual sales
07:55subject to the city sales tax. Um it
07:57will be the anchor for this the retail
08:00portion of this u project. There will be
08:03junior anchor space and um shop space.
08:06In addition to that, we have some retail
08:08pad sites. Um there's some additional
08:11retail that fronts Shields Boulevard and
08:13then finally the multif family component
08:16of the project which we have um already
08:19done a site plan and some preliminary
08:21architecture work for a 305 unit market
08:24rate um project at this location.
08:29This is the site plan for the multif
08:31family. Again, it would um you'd enter
08:34the project off of uh Santa Fe and and a
08:37new road that will be built. Um a good
08:40portion of the allocation that we're
08:42requesting is for infrastructure to
08:44build new streets, drainage, um the
08:47other kinds of, you know, water and
08:48sewer lines.
08:51This is just some more information about
08:52the multif family. Um it's a mixture of
08:55one, two, and three bedrooms. Um again,
08:57this is a market rate project. So, um,
09:01but which we believe South Oklahoma City
09:03needs new market rate development. Um,
09:06there hasn't been a lot of new apartment
09:08complexes built in South Oklahoma City
09:10in quite some time.
09:12Um, again, this is a breakdown of our um
09:15development costs. The junior anchor and
09:18shop space will be about 8 million. The
09:21retail pad sites are about another 9.2.
09:24The Shields frontage is about 9.7 9.8
09:28million. And then the multif family is
09:30the the biggest component of this with
09:32um the $57 million multif family
09:35project. Uh right now we're looking at
09:38developer equity of about 33.7 million
09:41and debt of a 50.6 million.
09:46Um this is a look at what happens with
09:48the tax increment revenues that are
09:50generated by the project. uh just
09:52looking at them generating a little bit
09:54over a million dollars in year one up to
09:58about 2.25 million in year 25. Um the
10:02current tax base is only about $89,000.
10:08Uh as Kenny mentioned earlier, we have
10:10proposed a tiered structure for this
10:13where we would um it's a payin payout uh
10:17incentive structure years 1 through 5 at
10:2085%, 6 through 10 at 75% and years 11
10:24through 15 at 30%.
10:27Um one of the things that the alliance
10:30and the city looks at when we look at
10:32these projects is the cash on cash
10:34returns. Uh for this project they are
10:37really low in year one without the tiff.
10:40Um they are about 2.9%. With the tiff
10:43they're still below investment grade but
10:46at about 5.7%
10:48with the tiff they they improve over
10:51time to around 12%.
10:54Um and that's about it. Yep. I'll be
10:58glad to answer any questions.
11:02>> Go ahead. You have a question? Oh, I'm
11:04sorry. Can we go back a couple slides?
11:09Uh,
11:12let's see. No, back forward now. I'm
11:14sorry.
11:20Oh, back again.
11:22Okay, right there. So, we're looking at
11:2485%
11:37And I think the point of this one is
11:38[clears throat] trying to show that this
11:40project will generate tiff above and
11:42beyond what it's receiving, which would
11:45be a benefit to the tiff district. We
11:47can do other projects, other
11:48improvements and things.
11:56>> I'll ask a question while you're
11:58figuring.
11:58>> Sorry. So this could be a key driver of
12:02economic development around this the
12:05>> Yeah. And and really to redevelop I mean
12:09you are in the process of creating a
12:11tiff district. So this area has been
12:13identified as as needing new investment
12:15and being um economically distressed or
12:18you know maybe not technically blighted
12:20but certainly um hasn't had a lot of
12:22investment in the last 50 or 60 years. I
12:25mean, Crossroads Mall was probably the
12:27last major investment in the area. So,
12:29you know, we there is a Lowe's and um a
12:32Home Depot nearby. So, there have been
12:34some other retail developments, but um
12:37for this location, we really think that
12:38this is hopefully a driver to boost up
12:42that area and and help revitalize some
12:44of the other neighborhoods around it.
12:48>> Any other questions?
12:50I was just going to comment that I I
12:52really love that it's because I was
12:54looking at the the other major retailers
12:56in the area, but the housing component
12:58being baked into so being mixed use um
13:01to really stabilize and catalyze
13:04reatalyze the area. So excited about the
13:07project.
13:08>> Thank you. Any other questions? Thank
13:11you, Miss Okconor.
13:12>> Thank you.
13:14>> All right. With that, we can go ahead
13:16and take a motion and a second on item
13:182A. Would
13:31you like to vote yes?
13:33>> Oh, we have a motion, a second. All
13:35right, we have a motion, a second.
13:37Everyone, cast your votes. I already
13:39have. I'll vote I, please.
13:42>> Are you on?
13:45>> Mine didn't come up.
13:47>> Interesting.
13:49Okay.
13:53>> And the items passed. Thank you.
13:57>> All right. Brings us to item 2B, a joint
13:59resolution allocating amount not to
14:01exceed 12 million in gold bond funds to
14:03the city and aquit to assist in the
14:06construction of necessary infrastructure
14:08in the vicinity of I40 and Simmeron
14:11Road. Mr. Sudel.
14:13>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [clears throat]
14:14So I wanted to give a presentation
14:16that's really a bigger picture
14:18presentation about this project and CSMS
14:22management as everybody may seen and
14:24this is the BIES travel plaza and so
14:27this really even though our trust today
14:29is considering a $12 million allocation
14:31it's it's a much bigger project so I
14:34wanted to give you all the full picture
14:36and note and I'll kind of go through
14:38this in the presentation there's a
14:40there's other approvals from other city
14:42trusts and bodies that will take place
14:44and I want to talk about why we would
14:46consider this big of a investment
14:48because it doesn't benefit just the
14:50travel center. It also benefits C page
14:53airport and our uh employment site that
14:55has been purchased around that. So just
14:58very quickly
15:00we have a couple slides here on just the
15:02the project itself. Um, you know, you
15:05may or may not be familiar with with the
15:08travel center, but some of the things I
15:09want to point out, you know, kind of on
15:11the right side of the screen, the the um
15:14uh 5 million visitors a year coming into
15:17the store. We think that, you know, 90%
15:20of these customers will come from
15:21outside Canadian County. Um, you know,
15:24it's about a 74,000 square foot travel
15:27center. And if you go to the next,
15:30these are kind of some of the economic
15:32impact numbers. So on the left, it's
15:35probably somewhere in the 200 FTEES, you
15:39know, around $20 an hour. So even though
15:41this is sort of a retail type of
15:44development, it's it's fairly good wages
15:46as retail goes. And then the middle
15:48piece there, the development, you know,
15:50this is going to be about a $50 million
15:53pro build. You know, so this is a very
15:55significant deal. Not counting we've got
15:59there for kind of, you know, their
16:00expectation is 18 million gallons of
16:02fuel sold. Not counting that. Just the
16:05inside the store sales is about $25
16:08million. And I think that's probably
16:11conservative based on some of their
16:13other stores, but that's what they
16:14wanted to to kind of, you know, use as a
16:16baseline. and using the 25 million in
16:19taxable sales for merchandise and things
16:22that are taxable. You know, on the right
16:24side, you see that ends up being about a
16:26million dollars a year of sales tax
16:28generation for the city. Okay. So,
16:31[clears throat] I wanted to talk about
16:31that very briefly. That's the store
16:33itself, the travel center. But I want to
16:35point out the location. So, this is I40
16:37and Simron Road. So, the red box on the
16:40top is the site that they are
16:42considering on the northwest corner of
16:44Simron and I40. But I wanted to remind
16:47the purple is all the property on the
16:49southside that's owned by the city
16:51through various trusts. You know the the
16:53airport and then some of the uh
16:55employment properties that have been
16:57assembled uh by the industrial and
16:59cultural facilities trust. So quite a
17:02bit of property and as we've looked at
17:04this in order to you know develop
17:06further at C page airport and on those
17:09employment sites we've always known that
17:11we're going to need to bring some
17:13additional water and sewer
17:15infrastructure
17:16um and bridge improvements um you know
17:19if we're trying to attract a
17:21manufacturer other big employer out here
17:24um we're going to need those
17:25improvements and we've been kind of
17:26working on those plans for a couple
17:28years now. Um So, if you go to the next
17:31site or the next slide, this was I
17:34really want to point out just to be
17:36transparent, this is a much bigger
17:38project and I think council has taken
17:40some action on a bridge component
17:43already with ODOT. Um, you know, this is
17:46being considered today for the Gulp
17:48portion and I'll explain in a moment why
17:50that is, but really there needs to be
17:52road improvements and this is some of
17:54the improvements kind of on Simmeron
17:55Road, but also the entry and exit ramps.
17:59You know, if you kind of think about
18:00that travel center and you know,
18:02typically they have longer entry and
18:04exit ramps so you don't back traffic up
18:07on the highway. The bridge is is
18:09obviously the biggest component here
18:11that there needs to be, you know,
18:12widening, a Texas turnaround, um, you
18:16know, a signalization, some of those
18:18things. Um, sewer and water obviously
18:21need to be expanded and and I will say
18:23but this also would include, you know,
18:26making the infrastructure large enough
18:28on sewer and water that can also provide
18:30service uh enhanced service to both the
18:33airport and the employment side. And we
18:35base this on, you know, projects that
18:37we've gone after and looked at um, you
18:39know, that that would be a major type of
18:41employer in their their water and sewer
18:43use.
18:45[clears throat] So, this again would
18:47support all those things. I think one
18:49thing I want to point out right now some
18:51of the existing Aqua customers are
18:54served by S the lagoons on the north
18:57side of I40 on kind of the northeast
19:00corner of I40 and Simro Road. There are
19:03sewer lagoons. I think the airport is on
19:06septic tank right now. So these are just
19:08some of the things we could support kind
19:10of some existing businesses as well. If
19:13you go to the next slide, why would we
19:16do this? Well, one to to support our
19:18site, but I think this this is the part
19:20I really wanted to um hit home was by by
19:23having this project and there's some
19:25excitement about it at the state level
19:26and they've committed some funding, we
19:29really are going to be able to get about
19:30$35 million of that $57 million price
19:33tag funded by some of these outside
19:36sources
19:37really because of the excitement about
19:39the travel plaza and the support that
19:41that has. And so, you know, this this
19:44has already gone to council, but the
19:45ODOT bridge funding, you know, they're
19:48planning to put 11.4 million in up to 15
19:51million. So, they've also kind of
19:52committed to cover some of the the
19:54overrun if there's any overruns there.
19:56Um, the Department of Commerce, we've
19:59been working with them and they've
20:00committed to fund up to $5 million from
20:03their P3 infrastructure program. So this
20:05is a program we've the city has used
20:07this one time in the past that it's a
20:10it's a partnership deal where in certain
20:12situations and if it meets certain
20:14requirements they can help fund uh
20:17infrastructure some infrastructure costs
20:19that will be owned by the public
20:21ultimately and they you know in
20:24discussions with them they they would
20:27allocate about five million now I want
20:29to put a flag in this because this
20:31funding that funding does not come up
20:33front you have to preund fund it and
20:35then they pay you back over about a two
20:38to threeyear period. So keep that in
20:40mind because that's going to be part of
20:41the reason we need 12 million uh in GT
20:44is a little bit of that's preunding that
20:465 million. The travel center themselves
20:49have are agreeing to put in you know $6
20:51million into that bridge project $3.2 $2
20:54million into, you know, the water,
20:56sewer, and road upgrades. And then I
20:58think an important point is we we we
21:00would not be paying them any incentives
21:02directly.
21:04The infrastructure is the incentive. And
21:06then, you know, so this and they would
21:08make an actual contribution into into
21:10this infrastructure. And then we have
21:13$10 million from a congressional
21:15congestion relief funds. These were
21:17funds that were allocated previously for
21:19a from Congress for a project. Um, and
21:22there's it's it's funding that couldn't
21:25be used for just anything. It had some
21:27specific things about relieving traffic
21:29congestion and it was related, you know,
21:32it it can go into part of the, you know,
21:34bridge project. So, when you add up
21:36these sources, this is really $35
21:38million of sort of outside sources that
21:41really will help us frontr run and
21:43preund, you know, fund some of that $57
21:46million price tag. So if you go to the
21:48next one. So kind of given the breakdown
21:51there and this is where you know you've
21:53got the 57 million the 35 million we
21:56talked about previously the airport
21:58trust and again this would be subject to
22:00them approving it but in working with
22:02staff you know they would they they are
22:04amanable to to bringing forward
22:06potentially funding at 1.1 million which
22:09is kind of their proportionate share of
22:11some of the water and sewer
22:12improvements. And then the water
22:14utilities trust would potentially fund
22:1613.1 million. Again, they cannot fund
22:20the prospective development with
22:21rateayer money. This would be like their
22:23portion of upgrading their water and
22:26sewer service to some of their existing
22:27customers, getting rid of those uh
22:30lagoons, building a lift station on the
22:32south side of I40 and running the pipes,
22:35you know, to to move the the the the
22:39effluent um away from the travel center
22:42and other other uh customers. So, if you
22:45look at the delta there, the delta is
22:47about 7 million and that's really what
22:50is needed from gold. However, as I
22:52mentioned earlier, the the $5 million
22:54program from the state has to be
22:56preunded. So, that's how we get to our
22:5812 million. So, you know, if if this 12
23:02million is approved by um OCEDt and
23:05council, uh you know, the the uh plan
23:09would be we would there would be another
23:11agreement later that would come on that
23:12P3 program for the 5 million and they
23:15would reimburse us over time and then
23:17net would be that we would be spending
23:19$7 million of our golden funds. And so
23:24if you go to the next slide
23:28just kind of in summary again this
23:30[clears throat] this is another stage in
23:33kind of those um you know enhancing the
23:36competitiveness of our employment sites
23:38and you know we've already had interest
23:40and and we've not really been
23:44overtly marketing those sites but people
23:46are aware of it. Site selectors
23:48companies are aware we've had people
23:50reaching out. We we've done a lot of
23:51studies on those sites prepare you know
23:54sampling environmental work all those
23:57things and so having infrastructure
23:59there water and sewer now it would be
24:02kind of right down if you kind of
24:03imagine Simron Road so we still in the
24:05future need to have that kind of last
24:07mile connection or last bit of
24:10connection and that's part we don't
24:11really know what that is until there's
24:13users there but it also enhances you
24:16know the infrastructure and
24:17competitiveness of C page if they also
24:20want to have development within the
24:21airport. Um, and you know, removes the
24:24sewer lagoons, creates some meaningful
24:27sales tax for the city. And then the
24:29other thing I would say, if you notice
24:31that red box previously, there's a lot
24:33of other undeveloped property around
24:35that. And we know that this type of
24:38travel center, virtually every other
24:40location it's gone attracts other tax
24:43creating, you know, uh, uses like more
24:46retail, more restaurant, those sorts of
24:48things. So, um, you know, we think that
24:51probably would help set the stage to
24:52bring some more, you know, potentially
24:54tax generating things there as well, but
24:56we don't have that included in this
24:58analysis today. But just, you know, in
25:00summary, I think it's one of those
25:02things if the travel center was going in
25:05a mile east or a mile west or somewhere
25:07else, you know, we might think about
25:09this a little differently, but I think
25:10it really does provide an opportunity to
25:12take advantage and get a great
25:14development, you know, great store that
25:16people like, but also have additional
25:18money that goes into help making our
25:20airport and our employment site more
25:22viable.
25:24>> Yes, ma'am.
25:25>> Couple questions. um relative to the
25:27footprint of 75,000 square feet, is that
25:30comparable to other of those travel
25:32centers locations?
25:34>> I think it's a little bit it's a little
25:36bit larger as we work through with them.
25:38And again, those plans will be
25:40finalized, but this is kind of what
25:42we're talking with them is it it's a
25:43little bit on the higher end side of
25:45their
25:46>> we need additional space for all the
25:48beef jerky that will be sold. So uh
25:51second question relative to and refresh
25:54my memory of the identified area for
25:56development not including the potential
25:59but how many acres does that represent?
26:02>> Do you remember that? I may have to get
26:04that. How many
26:06>> 35 acres
26:09and I yeah I think that sounds right but
26:12we we'll get that number to you for
26:14sure.
26:15>> Okay. Thank you.
26:17And what did we think their estimated
26:19our estimated income would be annually
26:22on the sales tax? It
26:23>> we think it'll be just a little bit over
26:25a million dollars a a year on the just
26:29the retail sales of the store not count
26:32you know fuel gets fuel tax and
26:35>> that gets collected at the state level
26:37and distributed. So we haven't really
26:39put that in the analysis but I will tell
26:41you I probably believe that to be a
26:43little bit conservative. I think we've
26:45looked at some of their other stores,
26:47you know, get closer to $40 million of
26:50sales, but this is based on $25 million
26:52of sales.
26:53>> And, you know, that's all they're they
26:55really want. They felt like that was a
26:57good conservative number they could
26:58could for sure hit. So, we want to use
27:00that number.
27:01>> Okay. Great. Any other questions?
27:06Um, so I I'm hearing, you know, a master
27:09plan, long-term vision, which I
27:11appreciate, pipeline employers. Um,
27:15really appreciate the current wages and
27:17employee count um by the anchor uh
27:21entity or corporation.
27:24Um, the annual income and really love
27:28that, you know, you have federal, state,
27:30and private participation in the capital
27:32stack. what we're approving today. Um,
27:36I'm just trying to because I was hearing
27:38that there are some committed sources,
27:41but maybe on the airport trust and water
27:44utilities trust. Those aren't committed
27:46just yet.
27:47>> Yeah. So, that's a good question and I
27:49alluded to but didn't fully explain. So,
27:52[clears throat] we've already had one
27:53agreement at council that is the bridge
27:55deal with ODOT. Okay.
27:57>> We would have this Gulp money that would
27:59go through OCDT and council. We would
28:02also have to have um the airport trust
28:05would have to approve their portion.
28:07Aquit would have to approve their
28:09portion. There would also have to be an
28:11agreement between
28:13department of commerce and council on
28:16the P3 program. There will also be an
28:19economic development agreement that and
28:22this is part of you know because if
28:23we're going to make all these we want to
28:25lock bies into that they're providing
28:28theirs their piece and
28:32I think that's it. But there there are
28:34variety of agreements and that's why I
28:35wanted to kind of give you the total
28:37picture and I think of course you know
28:40at any stage if some major piece of that
28:43unravels we would have to you know come
28:45back and and and sort of
28:47>> okay
28:47>> start over undo etc. But um there's a
28:51variety of things and so I want to give
28:53you the bigger okay the bigger picture
28:54because it's much more than just what
28:56this body is considering today.
28:58>> Okay. Got it. Thank you. So, we'll get
29:01to hear this multiple multiple
29:03>> multiple times. [laughter]
29:06>> All right. If we don't have [music] any
29:07other questions or comments, we can take
29:10a motion and a second, which we have.
29:13Please vote.
29:18And the items passed. All right. Item
29:21three on the agenda is comments from
29:23staff.
29:24>> None.
29:25>> Any comments from trustees?
29:29Any citizens? I speak.
29:32All right. Item four is we are
29:34adjourned.
29:35>> Thank you everybody.
29:36>> Thank you so much.