2026-10-08 - Oklahoma City Economic Development Trust

Summary

Based on auto-generated captions; names and numbers may be misheard. The caption timeline starts at 4:49 with room noise; the meeting was called to order at about 4:57.

Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk):

Topic Minutes Share
Buc-ee's Travel Center Infrastructure Funding 15 60%
Shields Plaza Mixed-Use Redevelopment 9 36%
Other business 1 4%
  • Thursday, October 8, 2026, adjourned at about 29:36 on the caption timeline.
  • Both items for individual consideration passed on electronic votes; the captions do not give a tally or any dissent.
  • The Buc-ee's item was heard by the City Council on October 13.

Shields Plaza Mixed-Use Redevelopment

5:10-13:57

  • Item 2A: joint resolution approving up to $13 million from an increment district (captioned "B") of the South Oklahoma City Economic Development Project Plan. Sudel said the deal depends on the South Oklahoma City TIF district being created, which still needs City Council action; it has been through the TIF committees and the planning commission.
  • Structure: pay-as-you-go. The developer receives 85 percent of the new taxes in years 1 to 5, 75 percent in years 6 to 10 and 30 percent in years 11 to 15, capped at $13 million.
  • Okconor (captioned; with Coalign Group, for the developer Zerby Partners) presented an $84.4 million mixed-use project at the northwest corner of I-240 and Shields Boulevard: the old South Shields Plaza shopping center would be torn down for about 77,000 square feet of retail plus a big box anchor (still in negotiation, about $58 million in annual taxable sales), pad sites, and a 305-unit market-rate apartment complex on the north tract. Much of the request is for streets, drainage, water and sewer.
  • Developer equity about $33.7 million and debt about $50.6 million. Tax increment would run from a little over $1 million in year one to about $2.25 million in year 25, against a current tax base of about $89,000. Cash-on-cash return is about 2.9 percent in year one without the TIF and 5.7 percent with it, rising to about 12 percent over time.
  • A trustee called it a possible driver for an area with little major investment since Crossroads Mall; another praised the housing built into the mixed use. Approved.

Buc-ee's Travel Center Infrastructure Funding

13:57-29:18

  • Item 2B: joint resolution allocating up to $12 million of GO bond economic development funds to the city and Water Utilities Trust (captioned "Aquit") for infrastructure near I-40 and Cimarron Road (captioned "Simmeron"). Sudel gave a big-picture presentation because the trust's piece is only part of the package.
  • The travel center would be about 74,000 square feet with about 5 million visitors a year, about 200 jobs around $20 an hour, a roughly $50 million build, about $25 million in taxable in-store sales and about $1 million a year in city sales tax (staff called this conservative). No direct incentive is paid to the company; the infrastructure is the incentive.
  • Total infrastructure about $57 million, with about $35 million from outside sources: ODOT bridge money ($11.4 million, up to $15 million), up to $5 million from the state Commerce P3 program (repaid over two to three years, so it must be pre-funded), $10 million of federal congestion relief funds, and company contributions ($6 million to the bridge and about $3.2 million to water, sewer and road work). The Airport Trust could add about $1.1 million and the Water Utilities Trust about $13.1 million, both still needing their own approvals. Net cost to the GO funds would be about $7 million.
  • The work would also remove sewer lagoons, serve the airport (on septic now) and open the city-assembled employment sites to manufacturers.
  • A trustee asked about the footprint (a bit larger than their typical store), the acreage of the area (about 35 acres, to be confirmed) and the sales tax estimate. Another noted the committed versus pending sources; staff listed the remaining approvals (Airport Trust, Water Utilities Trust, a Commerce agreement with the council and an economic development agreement with the company) and said the package would be revisited if a major piece fell through. Approved.

Other business

4:57-5:10, 29:18-29:36

  • No staff or trustee comments and no citizens to be heard; adjourned.

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04:49You see that?

04:55>> It is too deep.

04:57>> All right. Good morning. We'll go ahead

04:58and call the meeting to order. Welcome

05:00to the Oklahoma City Economic

05:01Development Trust of October 8th, 2026.

05:05[snorts] We have items for individual

05:08consideration.

05:10Item 2 A

05:14is a joint resolution approving an

05:15allocation not to exceed $13 million

05:18from increment district number B of the

05:21South Oklahoma City. Is that number B or

05:24eight?

05:25>> B.

05:26>> Okay. Of the South Oklahoma City

05:28Economic Development Project Plan in

05:30support of the Shields Plaza mixeduse

05:32redevelopment project. Mr. Sudel.

05:35>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, this one

05:37[clears throat] as it mentions, the

05:39reason it says TIFF B is this uh this

05:42this deal would also be contingent upon

05:44the Southside TIF being created, which

05:46it's in the process. It still has to go

05:48through with council. It's gone through

05:49the TIFF committees and the planning

05:52commission. Um, and then once that

05:56increment district gets activated, it

05:58gets a number at that point. So, just a

06:00reminder, but this this deal would be

06:02structured as a not to exceed uh 13

06:05million. And it would be structured as a

06:07pay as you go tiff that years 1 through

06:09five we return 85% of the taxes. Years 6

06:13through 10 75% years 11 through 15 30%

06:17and the total of that not to exceed 13

06:21uh million. This is [clears throat]

06:23really for a project that's at uh uh

06:26I240 in Shields kind of the northwest

06:29corner. There's an old shopping center

06:31and some vacant property there. And I

06:32think Kathy Okconor is here on behalf of

06:34the developer is going to give you a

06:36presentation about uh the project. So

06:39I'll turn it over to you Kathy.

06:41>> Good morning. I'm Kathy Okconor with the

06:43coalign group um here on behalf of uh

06:46Zerby Partners for this project. We'll

06:48go ahead and get started.

06:50>> It's not up there. There it is. Okay. Um

06:53the project overview is this is a

06:55mixeduse um development that will

06:57include retail, restaurants potentially

07:01um in a multif family development. Uh

07:03we're planning on about an $84.4 million

07:07investment. Um the retail commercial

07:10piece is about 77,000 square feet in

07:13addition to the big box store. Um this

07:16is the location of the current South

07:19Shields Plaza um shopping center. Uh

07:23that shopping center will be torn down

07:25and a new development built at its

07:27place.

07:30So this is just another look at the at

07:32the location. Um Zerby Partners has

07:36purchased that north track and that's

07:38where uh mostly the apartments will be

07:40constructed.

07:43So again, the the components of the

07:45development are a is a big box anchor

07:47store that we're still in negotiations

07:50with. We anticipate that it will have

07:52about $58 million in annual sales

07:55subject to the city sales tax. Um it

07:57will be the anchor for this the retail

08:00portion of this u project. There will be

08:03junior anchor space and um shop space.

08:06In addition to that, we have some retail

08:08pad sites. Um there's some additional

08:11retail that fronts Shields Boulevard and

08:13then finally the multif family component

08:16of the project which we have um already

08:19done a site plan and some preliminary

08:21architecture work for a 305 unit market

08:24rate um project at this location.

08:29This is the site plan for the multif

08:31family. Again, it would um you'd enter

08:34the project off of uh Santa Fe and and a

08:37new road that will be built. Um a good

08:40portion of the allocation that we're

08:42requesting is for infrastructure to

08:44build new streets, drainage, um the

08:47other kinds of, you know, water and

08:48sewer lines.

08:51This is just some more information about

08:52the multif family. Um it's a mixture of

08:55one, two, and three bedrooms. Um again,

08:57this is a market rate project. So, um,

09:01but which we believe South Oklahoma City

09:03needs new market rate development. Um,

09:06there hasn't been a lot of new apartment

09:08complexes built in South Oklahoma City

09:10in quite some time.

09:12Um, again, this is a breakdown of our um

09:15development costs. The junior anchor and

09:18shop space will be about 8 million. The

09:21retail pad sites are about another 9.2.

09:24The Shields frontage is about 9.7 9.8

09:28million. And then the multif family is

09:30the the biggest component of this with

09:32um the $57 million multif family

09:35project. Uh right now we're looking at

09:38developer equity of about 33.7 million

09:41and debt of a 50.6 million.

09:46Um this is a look at what happens with

09:48the tax increment revenues that are

09:50generated by the project. uh just

09:52looking at them generating a little bit

09:54over a million dollars in year one up to

09:58about 2.25 million in year 25. Um the

10:02current tax base is only about $89,000.

10:08Uh as Kenny mentioned earlier, we have

10:10proposed a tiered structure for this

10:13where we would um it's a payin payout uh

10:17incentive structure years 1 through 5 at

10:2085%, 6 through 10 at 75% and years 11

10:24through 15 at 30%.

10:27Um one of the things that the alliance

10:30and the city looks at when we look at

10:32these projects is the cash on cash

10:34returns. Uh for this project they are

10:37really low in year one without the tiff.

10:40Um they are about 2.9%. With the tiff

10:43they're still below investment grade but

10:46at about 5.7%

10:48with the tiff they they improve over

10:51time to around 12%.

10:54Um and that's about it. Yep. I'll be

10:58glad to answer any questions.

11:02>> Go ahead. You have a question? Oh, I'm

11:04sorry. Can we go back a couple slides?

11:09Uh,

11:12let's see. No, back forward now. I'm

11:14sorry.

11:20Oh, back again.

11:22Okay, right there. So, we're looking at

11:2485%

11:37And I think the point of this one is

11:38[clears throat] trying to show that this

11:40project will generate tiff above and

11:42beyond what it's receiving, which would

11:45be a benefit to the tiff district. We

11:47can do other projects, other

11:48improvements and things.

11:56>> I'll ask a question while you're

11:58figuring.

11:58>> Sorry. So this could be a key driver of

12:02economic development around this the

12:05>> Yeah. And and really to redevelop I mean

12:09you are in the process of creating a

12:11tiff district. So this area has been

12:13identified as as needing new investment

12:15and being um economically distressed or

12:18you know maybe not technically blighted

12:20but certainly um hasn't had a lot of

12:22investment in the last 50 or 60 years. I

12:25mean, Crossroads Mall was probably the

12:27last major investment in the area. So,

12:29you know, we there is a Lowe's and um a

12:32Home Depot nearby. So, there have been

12:34some other retail developments, but um

12:37for this location, we really think that

12:38this is hopefully a driver to boost up

12:42that area and and help revitalize some

12:44of the other neighborhoods around it.

12:48>> Any other questions?

12:50I was just going to comment that I I

12:52really love that it's because I was

12:54looking at the the other major retailers

12:56in the area, but the housing component

12:58being baked into so being mixed use um

13:01to really stabilize and catalyze

13:04reatalyze the area. So excited about the

13:07project.

13:08>> Thank you. Any other questions? Thank

13:11you, Miss Okconor.

13:12>> Thank you.

13:14>> All right. With that, we can go ahead

13:16and take a motion and a second on item

13:182A. Would

13:31you like to vote yes?

13:33>> Oh, we have a motion, a second. All

13:35right, we have a motion, a second.

13:37Everyone, cast your votes. I already

13:39have. I'll vote I, please.

13:42>> Are you on?

13:45>> Mine didn't come up.

13:47>> Interesting.

13:49Okay.

13:53>> And the items passed. Thank you.

13:57>> All right. Brings us to item 2B, a joint

13:59resolution allocating amount not to

14:01exceed 12 million in gold bond funds to

14:03the city and aquit to assist in the

14:06construction of necessary infrastructure

14:08in the vicinity of I40 and Simmeron

14:11Road. Mr. Sudel.

14:13>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [clears throat]

14:14So I wanted to give a presentation

14:16that's really a bigger picture

14:18presentation about this project and CSMS

14:22management as everybody may seen and

14:24this is the BIES travel plaza and so

14:27this really even though our trust today

14:29is considering a $12 million allocation

14:31it's it's a much bigger project so I

14:34wanted to give you all the full picture

14:36and note and I'll kind of go through

14:38this in the presentation there's a

14:40there's other approvals from other city

14:42trusts and bodies that will take place

14:44and I want to talk about why we would

14:46consider this big of a investment

14:48because it doesn't benefit just the

14:50travel center. It also benefits C page

14:53airport and our uh employment site that

14:55has been purchased around that. So just

14:58very quickly

15:00we have a couple slides here on just the

15:02the project itself. Um, you know, you

15:05may or may not be familiar with with the

15:08travel center, but some of the things I

15:09want to point out, you know, kind of on

15:11the right side of the screen, the the um

15:14uh 5 million visitors a year coming into

15:17the store. We think that, you know, 90%

15:20of these customers will come from

15:21outside Canadian County. Um, you know,

15:24it's about a 74,000 square foot travel

15:27center. And if you go to the next,

15:30these are kind of some of the economic

15:32impact numbers. So on the left, it's

15:35probably somewhere in the 200 FTEES, you

15:39know, around $20 an hour. So even though

15:41this is sort of a retail type of

15:44development, it's it's fairly good wages

15:46as retail goes. And then the middle

15:48piece there, the development, you know,

15:50this is going to be about a $50 million

15:53pro build. You know, so this is a very

15:55significant deal. Not counting we've got

15:59there for kind of, you know, their

16:00expectation is 18 million gallons of

16:02fuel sold. Not counting that. Just the

16:05inside the store sales is about $25

16:08million. And I think that's probably

16:11conservative based on some of their

16:13other stores, but that's what they

16:14wanted to to kind of, you know, use as a

16:16baseline. and using the 25 million in

16:19taxable sales for merchandise and things

16:22that are taxable. You know, on the right

16:24side, you see that ends up being about a

16:26million dollars a year of sales tax

16:28generation for the city. Okay. So,

16:31[clears throat] I wanted to talk about

16:31that very briefly. That's the store

16:33itself, the travel center. But I want to

16:35point out the location. So, this is I40

16:37and Simron Road. So, the red box on the

16:40top is the site that they are

16:42considering on the northwest corner of

16:44Simron and I40. But I wanted to remind

16:47the purple is all the property on the

16:49southside that's owned by the city

16:51through various trusts. You know the the

16:53airport and then some of the uh

16:55employment properties that have been

16:57assembled uh by the industrial and

16:59cultural facilities trust. So quite a

17:02bit of property and as we've looked at

17:04this in order to you know develop

17:06further at C page airport and on those

17:09employment sites we've always known that

17:11we're going to need to bring some

17:13additional water and sewer

17:15infrastructure

17:16um and bridge improvements um you know

17:19if we're trying to attract a

17:21manufacturer other big employer out here

17:24um we're going to need those

17:25improvements and we've been kind of

17:26working on those plans for a couple

17:28years now. Um So, if you go to the next

17:31site or the next slide, this was I

17:34really want to point out just to be

17:36transparent, this is a much bigger

17:38project and I think council has taken

17:40some action on a bridge component

17:43already with ODOT. Um, you know, this is

17:46being considered today for the Gulp

17:48portion and I'll explain in a moment why

17:50that is, but really there needs to be

17:52road improvements and this is some of

17:54the improvements kind of on Simmeron

17:55Road, but also the entry and exit ramps.

17:59You know, if you kind of think about

18:00that travel center and you know,

18:02typically they have longer entry and

18:04exit ramps so you don't back traffic up

18:07on the highway. The bridge is is

18:09obviously the biggest component here

18:11that there needs to be, you know,

18:12widening, a Texas turnaround, um, you

18:16know, a signalization, some of those

18:18things. Um, sewer and water obviously

18:21need to be expanded and and I will say

18:23but this also would include, you know,

18:26making the infrastructure large enough

18:28on sewer and water that can also provide

18:30service uh enhanced service to both the

18:33airport and the employment side. And we

18:35base this on, you know, projects that

18:37we've gone after and looked at um, you

18:39know, that that would be a major type of

18:41employer in their their water and sewer

18:43use.

18:45[clears throat] So, this again would

18:47support all those things. I think one

18:49thing I want to point out right now some

18:51of the existing Aqua customers are

18:54served by S the lagoons on the north

18:57side of I40 on kind of the northeast

19:00corner of I40 and Simro Road. There are

19:03sewer lagoons. I think the airport is on

19:06septic tank right now. So these are just

19:08some of the things we could support kind

19:10of some existing businesses as well. If

19:13you go to the next slide, why would we

19:16do this? Well, one to to support our

19:18site, but I think this this is the part

19:20I really wanted to um hit home was by by

19:23having this project and there's some

19:25excitement about it at the state level

19:26and they've committed some funding, we

19:29really are going to be able to get about

19:30$35 million of that $57 million price

19:33tag funded by some of these outside

19:36sources

19:37really because of the excitement about

19:39the travel plaza and the support that

19:41that has. And so, you know, this this

19:44has already gone to council, but the

19:45ODOT bridge funding, you know, they're

19:48planning to put 11.4 million in up to 15

19:51million. So, they've also kind of

19:52committed to cover some of the the

19:54overrun if there's any overruns there.

19:56Um, the Department of Commerce, we've

19:59been working with them and they've

20:00committed to fund up to $5 million from

20:03their P3 infrastructure program. So this

20:05is a program we've the city has used

20:07this one time in the past that it's a

20:10it's a partnership deal where in certain

20:12situations and if it meets certain

20:14requirements they can help fund uh

20:17infrastructure some infrastructure costs

20:19that will be owned by the public

20:21ultimately and they you know in

20:24discussions with them they they would

20:27allocate about five million now I want

20:29to put a flag in this because this

20:31funding that funding does not come up

20:33front you have to preund fund it and

20:35then they pay you back over about a two

20:38to threeyear period. So keep that in

20:40mind because that's going to be part of

20:41the reason we need 12 million uh in GT

20:44is a little bit of that's preunding that

20:465 million. The travel center themselves

20:49have are agreeing to put in you know $6

20:51million into that bridge project $3.2 $2

20:54million into, you know, the water,

20:56sewer, and road upgrades. And then I

20:58think an important point is we we we

21:00would not be paying them any incentives

21:02directly.

21:04The infrastructure is the incentive. And

21:06then, you know, so this and they would

21:08make an actual contribution into into

21:10this infrastructure. And then we have

21:13$10 million from a congressional

21:15congestion relief funds. These were

21:17funds that were allocated previously for

21:19a from Congress for a project. Um, and

21:22there's it's it's funding that couldn't

21:25be used for just anything. It had some

21:27specific things about relieving traffic

21:29congestion and it was related, you know,

21:32it it can go into part of the, you know,

21:34bridge project. So, when you add up

21:36these sources, this is really $35

21:38million of sort of outside sources that

21:41really will help us frontr run and

21:43preund, you know, fund some of that $57

21:46million price tag. So if you go to the

21:48next one. So kind of given the breakdown

21:51there and this is where you know you've

21:53got the 57 million the 35 million we

21:56talked about previously the airport

21:58trust and again this would be subject to

22:00them approving it but in working with

22:02staff you know they would they they are

22:04amanable to to bringing forward

22:06potentially funding at 1.1 million which

22:09is kind of their proportionate share of

22:11some of the water and sewer

22:12improvements. And then the water

22:14utilities trust would potentially fund

22:1613.1 million. Again, they cannot fund

22:20the prospective development with

22:21rateayer money. This would be like their

22:23portion of upgrading their water and

22:26sewer service to some of their existing

22:27customers, getting rid of those uh

22:30lagoons, building a lift station on the

22:32south side of I40 and running the pipes,

22:35you know, to to move the the the the

22:39effluent um away from the travel center

22:42and other other uh customers. So, if you

22:45look at the delta there, the delta is

22:47about 7 million and that's really what

22:50is needed from gold. However, as I

22:52mentioned earlier, the the $5 million

22:54program from the state has to be

22:56preunded. So, that's how we get to our

22:5812 million. So, you know, if if this 12

23:02million is approved by um OCEDt and

23:05council, uh you know, the the uh plan

23:09would be we would there would be another

23:11agreement later that would come on that

23:12P3 program for the 5 million and they

23:15would reimburse us over time and then

23:17net would be that we would be spending

23:19$7 million of our golden funds. And so

23:24if you go to the next slide

23:28just kind of in summary again this

23:30[clears throat] this is another stage in

23:33kind of those um you know enhancing the

23:36competitiveness of our employment sites

23:38and you know we've already had interest

23:40and and we've not really been

23:44overtly marketing those sites but people

23:46are aware of it. Site selectors

23:48companies are aware we've had people

23:50reaching out. We we've done a lot of

23:51studies on those sites prepare you know

23:54sampling environmental work all those

23:57things and so having infrastructure

23:59there water and sewer now it would be

24:02kind of right down if you kind of

24:03imagine Simron Road so we still in the

24:05future need to have that kind of last

24:07mile connection or last bit of

24:10connection and that's part we don't

24:11really know what that is until there's

24:13users there but it also enhances you

24:16know the infrastructure and

24:17competitiveness of C page if they also

24:20want to have development within the

24:21airport. Um, and you know, removes the

24:24sewer lagoons, creates some meaningful

24:27sales tax for the city. And then the

24:29other thing I would say, if you notice

24:31that red box previously, there's a lot

24:33of other undeveloped property around

24:35that. And we know that this type of

24:38travel center, virtually every other

24:40location it's gone attracts other tax

24:43creating, you know, uh, uses like more

24:46retail, more restaurant, those sorts of

24:48things. So, um, you know, we think that

24:51probably would help set the stage to

24:52bring some more, you know, potentially

24:54tax generating things there as well, but

24:56we don't have that included in this

24:58analysis today. But just, you know, in

25:00summary, I think it's one of those

25:02things if the travel center was going in

25:05a mile east or a mile west or somewhere

25:07else, you know, we might think about

25:09this a little differently, but I think

25:10it really does provide an opportunity to

25:12take advantage and get a great

25:14development, you know, great store that

25:16people like, but also have additional

25:18money that goes into help making our

25:20airport and our employment site more

25:22viable.

25:24>> Yes, ma'am.

25:25>> Couple questions. um relative to the

25:27footprint of 75,000 square feet, is that

25:30comparable to other of those travel

25:32centers locations?

25:34>> I think it's a little bit it's a little

25:36bit larger as we work through with them.

25:38And again, those plans will be

25:40finalized, but this is kind of what

25:42we're talking with them is it it's a

25:43little bit on the higher end side of

25:45their

25:46>> we need additional space for all the

25:48beef jerky that will be sold. So uh

25:51second question relative to and refresh

25:54my memory of the identified area for

25:56development not including the potential

25:59but how many acres does that represent?

26:02>> Do you remember that? I may have to get

26:04that. How many

26:06>> 35 acres

26:09and I yeah I think that sounds right but

26:12we we'll get that number to you for

26:14sure.

26:15>> Okay. Thank you.

26:17And what did we think their estimated

26:19our estimated income would be annually

26:22on the sales tax? It

26:23>> we think it'll be just a little bit over

26:25a million dollars a a year on the just

26:29the retail sales of the store not count

26:32you know fuel gets fuel tax and

26:35>> that gets collected at the state level

26:37and distributed. So we haven't really

26:39put that in the analysis but I will tell

26:41you I probably believe that to be a

26:43little bit conservative. I think we've

26:45looked at some of their other stores,

26:47you know, get closer to $40 million of

26:50sales, but this is based on $25 million

26:52of sales.

26:53>> And, you know, that's all they're they

26:55really want. They felt like that was a

26:57good conservative number they could

26:58could for sure hit. So, we want to use

27:00that number.

27:01>> Okay. Great. Any other questions?

27:06Um, so I I'm hearing, you know, a master

27:09plan, long-term vision, which I

27:11appreciate, pipeline employers. Um,

27:15really appreciate the current wages and

27:17employee count um by the anchor uh

27:21entity or corporation.

27:24Um, the annual income and really love

27:28that, you know, you have federal, state,

27:30and private participation in the capital

27:32stack. what we're approving today. Um,

27:36I'm just trying to because I was hearing

27:38that there are some committed sources,

27:41but maybe on the airport trust and water

27:44utilities trust. Those aren't committed

27:46just yet.

27:47>> Yeah. So, that's a good question and I

27:49alluded to but didn't fully explain. So,

27:52[clears throat] we've already had one

27:53agreement at council that is the bridge

27:55deal with ODOT. Okay.

27:57>> We would have this Gulp money that would

27:59go through OCDT and council. We would

28:02also have to have um the airport trust

28:05would have to approve their portion.

28:07Aquit would have to approve their

28:09portion. There would also have to be an

28:11agreement between

28:13department of commerce and council on

28:16the P3 program. There will also be an

28:19economic development agreement that and

28:22this is part of you know because if

28:23we're going to make all these we want to

28:25lock bies into that they're providing

28:28theirs their piece and

28:32I think that's it. But there there are

28:34variety of agreements and that's why I

28:35wanted to kind of give you the total

28:37picture and I think of course you know

28:40at any stage if some major piece of that

28:43unravels we would have to you know come

28:45back and and and sort of

28:47>> okay

28:47>> start over undo etc. But um there's a

28:51variety of things and so I want to give

28:53you the bigger okay the bigger picture

28:54because it's much more than just what

28:56this body is considering today.

28:58>> Okay. Got it. Thank you. So, we'll get

29:01to hear this multiple multiple

29:03>> multiple times. [laughter]

29:06>> All right. If we don't have [music] any

29:07other questions or comments, we can take

29:10a motion and a second, which we have.

29:13Please vote.

29:18And the items passed. All right. Item

29:21three on the agenda is comments from

29:23staff.

29:24>> None.

29:25>> Any comments from trustees?

29:29Any citizens? I speak.

29:32All right. Item four is we are

29:34adjourned.

29:35>> Thank you everybody.

29:36>> Thank you so much.