2026-10-27 - City Council

08:44Good morning. We're going to get started

08:45this morning with an invocation led by

08:48Pastor Ray Douglas of Greater Mount

08:50Olive Baptist Church and that'll be

08:51followed by the pledge of allegiance led

08:53by Councilwoman Katrina Ares. Please

08:56stand as you are able.

09:01Let's pray. Father God, we come for you

09:04today saying thank you for your grace

09:06and your sovereignty.

09:09Thank you for the privilege of living

09:10and serving in this community. And we

09:13ask for your divine presence to rest

09:14upon this meeting today. Uh your word

09:18tells us that if we need wisdom that we

09:20can ask you for it. And so we pray that

09:23your wisdom abundantly rest upon our

09:26mayor and each member of this council.

09:28That you would grant them discernment,

09:30clarity of mind, and understanding as

09:33they make the decisions that impact the

09:35lives of our city. Give them hearts of

09:38compassion for the people they

09:40represent. Help them to lead with

09:42integrity, fairness, and justice, always

09:45seeking the common good and the

09:47flourishing of our entire city. where

09:50there is division, we ask that you would

09:52bring unity and there are challenges

09:54that you would provide innovative and

09:57righteous solutions. We pray for the

10:00safety, peace and prosperity for our

10:02entire city. And may the work that's

10:04done in this chamber today reflect your

10:07righteousness and bring honor to your

10:09name. In Jesus name we ask this and we

10:11pray. Amen.

10:12>> Amen.

10:19I aliance to the flag of the United

10:22States of America and to the republic

10:25for which it stands. One nation under

10:29God, indivisible with liberty and

10:32justice for all.

10:37>> Thank you, Pastor Douglas, and thank

10:38you, Councilwoman.

10:43I call this meeting of the city council

10:45to order and uh we have a couple of

10:48presentations I will make from the

10:51front. I think uh Sidna will start with

10:55uh the awards and I'll take them in

10:57order once I get there.

11:19Okay. So really as we have done since co

11:23I think we we have used to have a lunch

11:26in the old days but now we've been doing

11:28the mayor's committee on disability

11:30concerns awards here at uh council

11:33meeting and we have four awardees today

11:35and of course we are join joined by

11:37Sidna the longtime chair and of course I

11:41should add this this uh committee has

11:43been around I think for for half a

11:45century or more. In fact, I think maybe

11:47a predecessor of it is is we pass the

11:50plaque recognizing it every time we walk

11:52into the building. So, this has been uh

11:54really a part of our city's

11:56infrastructure for a very long time. And

11:58it does some really amazing work. And

12:00>> I'm I'm the either fourth or I'm the

12:03fourth or fifth chair out of all of that

12:05time, too. So, people serve long long

12:08terms. [clears throat]

12:09>> Well, we're very grateful for you, SA.

12:11Thank you. So, first up is going to be

12:15the Don Davis Award, and this will be

12:17awarded to Lauren Branch. The Don Davis

12:20Award is the committee's highest honor

12:22recognizing extraordinary service and

12:24advocacy for people with disabilities.

12:27For nearly 30 years, Lauren has led New

12:30View Oklahoma, creating employment

12:32opportunities, expanding services, and

12:34empowering thousands of Oklahomaans who

12:36are blind or visually impaired. Lauren's

12:38leadership has transformed lives and

12:40demonstrated that opportunity, not

12:42disability, should define what's

12:44possible. Let's hear it for Lauren

12:46Brand. [applause]

12:51[applause]

13:01>> And uh well, congratulations. Thank you

13:04for your service. Um, you were thinking

13:06of bringing the whole committee up here.

13:08Yeah. Yeah, let's do that for sure.

13:11Came all this way. So, come on up

13:12committee. Those who are here,

13:14>> be part of the awards.

13:25>> Oh, yeah. Sure, sure, sure.

13:31All

13:40right. Thank you, Lauren. All right.

13:43Next up is the George Lewis Advocacy

13:47Award. And this is going to Tammy Ryos.

13:50Ryos. Is that right, Tammy? Yes. The

13:52George Lewis Advocacy Award honors

13:55individuals who make a difference

13:56through advocacy, service, and

13:58inclusion. Tammy Ryos is a dedicated

14:01advocate who uses her personal

14:03experiences and her voice to help others

14:04with disabilities live more independent

14:07and fulfilling lives. From advancing

14:09healthcare healthcare education to

14:12supporting individuals and families,

14:13Tammy demonstrates how one person's

14:15determination to serve can create

14:17opportunities for many. Let's

14:20congratulate Tammy Rehea. [applause]

14:25>> Congratulations. [cheering]

14:26Congratulations, Tammy. [applause]

14:34Thank you, Tammy.

14:37Next up, named for a legend, the Pam

14:40Henry Media Award. And that honore today

14:43is Mike Glover. The Pam Henry Media

14:46Award recognizes media that portrays

14:48people with disabilities in positive and

14:50empowering ways. Through his something

14:52good stories, Mike Glover shines a light

14:55on Oklahomaans whose abilities,

14:57accomplishments, and contributions

14:59deserve to be celebrated. His stories

15:01remind us that disability does not

15:03define a person and that recognizing the

15:05strengths in our neighbors makes our

15:07entire community better. Let's

15:09congratulate and thank Mike Glover.

15:11[applause]

15:15Thank you. [applause]

15:22Thank you, Mike.

15:24>> Sure. [laughter]

15:30>> Next up, actually final award is our

15:33public affairs media award and that's

15:35Taylor Jackson. Taylor Jackson. The

15:38public affairs media award recognizes

15:40reporting that raises awareness and

15:42promotes inclusion. Taylor Jackson

15:44highlighted New View Oklahoma's Do we

15:47call that Owl Camp? Yes,

15:48>> Owl Camp, O WL, where children and teens

15:52who are blind or visually impaired

15:54experience the joy of summer camp while

15:56building confidence, friendships, and

15:58independence. Her reporting reminds us

16:00that every child deserves opportunities

16:02to explore, discover their strengths,

16:04and experience a sense of belonging.

16:06Please join me in congratulating and

16:09thanking Taylor Jackson.

16:12[applause]

16:19Thank you, Taylor.

16:21>> Thank you

16:22>> to each of today's honores. Thank you

16:24for your commitment to making Oklahoma

16:26City a place where everyone is valued

16:28and has the opportunity to thrive.

16:30Congratulations. Would you like to say a

16:33few words, Sydney?

16:34>> I would actually. Um, not so much about

16:37the things that we have going on. We

16:39have a great group of people that we

16:40assemble.

16:46>> [snorts]

16:49>> Everything went off.

16:50>> Oh,

16:52>> doesn't sound like it.

16:55>> So, [laughter]

16:58we have a great It's back on. We have a

17:00great group of people that assemble at

17:01the table every month from varying

17:04organizations, um, companies,

17:07corporations, what have you, but they

17:09all have some sort of experience or a

17:12lived experience for people with

17:13disabilities. And it's amazing to see

17:15the collaboration and the expertise that

17:17we that we bring to the table every

17:19month. But I wanted to say um because it

17:22didn't happen here. It happened at one

17:23of our at our mayor's meetings. Tabitha

17:26Pope is our newest um member of the

17:28year. And right outside the mayor's

17:30office is a list of all of the members

17:33of the year that we have had for so so

17:36long. But I wanted Tabitha to be able to

17:37say something as our newest member of

17:39the year if that's okay.

17:40>> Yes, of course.

17:41>> Can I put you on the spot?

17:42>> Oh, good.

17:45>> Good morning, everyone. I hope that

17:47you're happy to be here on this

17:48wonderful day. Um it has been an honor

17:51to serve the city to represent people

17:53with disabilities. We all face something

17:56that's a barrier and that's hard to get

17:58through. And to see people tap into

18:01their talents and to be able to thrive

18:03and to give back to the city is a

18:05beautiful thing. And I just love

18:07showcasing that and sharing that with

18:09all these amazing people and you. And so

18:12thank you.

18:14>> Let's hear for our mayor's committee on

18:16disability concerns.

18:18Thank you. [applause]

18:22Thanks.

18:25All right, Brett, you want to come on

18:27down?

18:31>> You are our city employee of the month

18:34and we'd like to learn a little bit more

18:36about you and so I would ask the clerk

18:37to read this resolution.

18:40>> Whereas Brett Iker has been a city

18:42employee for 19 years and serves as a

18:45computer forensic specialist for the

18:47police department. And whereas Brett

18:50partners with investigators, legal

18:52staff, IT personnel, and other city

18:55departments to support complex digital

18:57investigations.

18:59And whereas through expertise,

19:01coordinated evidence handling, and clear

19:04communication, Brett moves cases forward

19:06with consistently high standards. And

19:09whereas Brett explains technical

19:11findings in clear, understandable terms,

19:15listens thoughtfully to concerns, and

19:17maintains composure and courtesy even

19:20during difficult or emotionally charged

19:22cases. And whereas Brett responds

19:25promptly to requests, prioritizes urgent

19:28cases,

19:29and handles sensitive information with

19:32diligence, providing reliable support to

19:34victims, investigators, and legal teams.

19:38And whereas Brett maintains

19:40professionalism in high pressure

19:41situations, clearly explains technical

19:44findings, and engages respectfully with

19:47colleagues and community members. And

19:50whereas Brett pursues continuous

19:52improvement, advancing forensic skills,

19:55and strengthening investigative

19:56processes. Now therefore, be it resolved

19:59by the mayor and council of the city of

20:01Oklahoma City that they do hereby thank

20:05and commend Brett Iiker on his selection

20:07as the October 2026 South Oklahoma City

20:11Kowanas Club employee of the month.

20:14>> Well, thank you. Well, Brett, we're very

20:15grateful for uh your nearly two decades

20:18of service and uh the way that you work

20:20every day to keep us safe. Thank you. We

20:23would like to express our uh gratitude

20:25through the passage of this resolution.

20:27And so let's see if we can get a motion

20:29and a second.

20:38We have a motion and a second. Please

20:40cast your votes. I wish to vote I.

20:44Passes unanimously.

20:46Well, yes. Let's hear it for Brad.

20:49[applause]

20:52Well, Brett, we'd love to hear a few

20:53words from you. The floor is yours.

20:56>> Well, as some of you might know that I'm

20:58a person of very few words, so I'll keep

21:01it very short, but I will say it is a

21:03privilege to work for the best police

21:05department in the world. Um, I'm

21:08extremely humbled and honored to accept

21:10this recognition. So, thank you, Mayor

21:12Hol, City Council, and South Oklahoma

21:15City Kuanas Club. Thank you very much.

21:18>> Thank you. Let's uh hear it for Brad.

21:20There you go. Thank you, Brad.

21:21Congratulations. [applause]

21:57All right, we still have left on office

21:59of the mayor some reappointments to the

22:02port authority.

22:04Take a motion on that.

22:14We have a motion in a second. Cast your

22:15votes.

22:25Passes unanimously. That concludes

22:28office of the mayor. Item four, items

22:29from council. There are none today. Item

22:31five, city manager reports. Mr. City

22:33Manager.

22:33>> Yes, we have a couple of reports on

22:35today. Hotel tax, I'll just mention

22:37that. Um, hotel tax performance has been

22:40around 5%. It's been really good. It's

22:42about $130,000 over budget. So, really

22:45close to what we projected. Um, but

22:47doing well. So, great numbers there. And

22:49then on the sales and use tax, sales tax

22:53is 8.5% growth this month. You know,

22:55we've been through a long series of up

22:57and down and it seems like we've had a

22:58couple of months now with growth, you

23:01know, reflecting growth. So, it's really

23:02been positive at this point. Um, use tax

23:05continues this double-digit trend, which

23:07is in part because of the, uh, reporting

23:10issue from last year. We'll have that, I

23:12think, through November. Um, and so, uh,

23:16really strong numbers right now on sales

23:17tax, but combined sales and use tax are

23:19currently almost $6 million over target.

23:22So, a great start to the year on sales

23:24tax. We'll [music] continue monitoring

23:26on that as we go forward, working with

23:28Russell to get better understanding of

23:30what's happening right now and what we

23:31can expect uh for the rest of the year.

23:33Uh but really good reports uh for today.

23:36That's all that I have. Mayor.

23:38>> All right. Next up is Journal of Council

23:41Proceedings. We have items A and B we

23:43could take with one motion.

23:45[clears throat]

23:50We have a motion and a second. Cast your

23:52votes.

23:54passes unanimously.

23:56Item seven, request for uncontested

23:58continuences. Mr. City Manager, do you

24:00have anything?

24:01>> Yes, we have several items that are on

24:04uh starting on page 22,

24:07item 11G, this is SPUD1 1837, that's

24:11going to be deferred to the 10th of

24:13November.

24:14Then continuing on page 241 L1,

24:18dilapidated structures. All of these

24:19that I list on dilapidated, unsecured,

24:21and abandoned will be stricken from the

24:22agenda. Um item under L 11L1 item D 9401

24:30Southwest 32nd Street to rework for a

24:32new owner owner. And then on page 2411

24:37M1, unsecured structures, item E, 1708

24:40Northwest 7th Street to re rework. Item

24:44G,

24:463844 Southwest 38th Street. the owner is

24:49secured. And then on page 24 under 11N1,

24:54item D, 9401 Southwest 32nd Street to

24:57rework for a new owner. And that's all

24:59the items that I've got.

25:03[clears throat]

25:04All right. Item eight, uh, are revocable

25:08permits and events. Item 8 A is a

25:11revocable permit with SKD Events uh

25:14doing businesses riverfront events for

25:16the riverfront grand prix on November

25:1828th through the 29th. And we have Mike

25:21Loren's here to speak on it.

25:28>> Good morning. And uh I brought gifts if

25:31I can approach

25:33um

25:38from the mayor.

25:40April race and then the August and

25:42February and then

25:49[laughter]

25:54>> here to answer questions. I feel like I

25:56was just here last week. Seems like um

25:59this year's gone by really quick with

26:01the the four events we've done this

26:03year, this being the the fourth. Uh been

26:06just great turnout. the the new ones

26:08that we did in February and August were

26:12part of a new statewide series and those

26:14were the two largest attended races of

26:16their entire series year to date. Uh

26:18both of them with over 500 riders. Uh

26:21about 80% of those were from Oklahoma,

26:24but

26:25outside of the Oklahoma City Metro. So,

26:28it's really great to see that many

26:29people coming in here for these. Um

26:32really looking forward to this uh this

26:34year's riverfront. This is our 32nd year

26:36to do this. Uh,

26:39a lot of events don't last that long.

26:41So, you know, the the location has a lot

26:43to do with it. Um, it's it's been a a

26:46really really big improvement over our

26:48old location in Arkansas and really

26:49appreciate the help that uh we've got

26:52from the city on this. It's been really

26:54really nice to to work with with that

26:56support. Any questions?

27:00>> No questions, but appreciate you

27:02continuing to do this. I think it's very

27:03cool and looking forward to one day

27:05being able to go out and join you, but

27:07I'm happy to move for approval.

27:15>> Have a motion and a second. Cast your

27:16votes.

27:19Passes unanimously.

27:20>> Thank you.

27:21>> Thank you. Appreciate you.

27:22>> Item A B is a revocable permit with Red

27:24Coyote running and fitness for the

27:26Prairie Line Half Marathon on November

27:2815th. and we have Melissa Hutchson here

27:31to speak on it.

27:33>> Hi, good morning. So, I'm with Red

27:35Coyote. It's the Red It used to be, it

27:38was formerly known as the Red Coyote

27:40Half Marathon. It's been rebranded as

27:42the Prairie Line. Um, it's on November

27:4515th, starts at 7:30. There's a half

27:47marathon and 5K.

27:49It starts at Scissorell Park and it runs

27:52across the Sky Dance Bridge and to the

27:54south um river trails and then back. Um

27:59it benefits course for change which

28:02pairs endurance running and men

28:04mentorship to the youth.

28:07Um that's it. Is there any questions?

28:10>> It's a good one.

28:11>> This crosses into words three and six.

28:17>> Anybody wants to jump in?

28:23>> I don't get to do this very often.

28:25[laughter] We're working on it in W

28:27three. Um, but thank you. We're excited

28:30to have you. I make a motion to approve.

28:42We have a motion in a second. Cast your

28:45votes

28:47when you can.

28:58passes unanimously.

29:00>> Thank you guys.

29:01>> Item 8 [clears throat] C is a revocable

29:03rightaway use permit with downtown

29:04Oklahoma City Partnership to hold the

29:05Oklahoma City Tree Lighting Festival on

29:07November 12th. And we have Olivia Bransk

29:10here.

29:10>> Good morning. Thank you for having me

29:12today. We are requesting the closure of

29:14Mickey Manel Drive between Reno and

29:16Sheridan Avenue for our annual Oklahoma

29:19City Tree Lighting Festival. This will

29:20be the 25th annual festival. We're very

29:23excited to bring back a stage on Mickey

29:25Manel Drive, the Bricktown Christmas

29:27Tree, and of course the lighting of the

29:29Christmas tree with uh Mayor Holt. So,

29:32uh the event is 5:30 to 7:30 on November

29:3412th.

29:39>> And that is in of course we're at seven.

29:41>> It's in heaven, mayor. [laughter]

29:44Um very excited about the event and just

29:46looking forward to being there. So, I'm

29:47happy to move approval.

29:55We have a motion and a second. Cast your

29:57votes.

30:01Passes unanimously.

30:03>> Thank you, council.

30:04>> Thank you. All right. We'll recess the

30:06council now and convene as the Oklahoma

30:07City Municipal Facilities Authority. Uh

30:09where we have items

30:12A through

30:14T. And we have a presentation on item A

30:18which will actually cover uh financial

30:20reports for all of our dockets today.

30:23>> Yes. So Angela Pierce, our chief

30:25financial officer, is going to make a

30:27presentation on the MFA financials, the

30:30PPA, and the city financials. Um these

30:34are the financials from FY25.

30:38So you remember that with our Oracle

30:39implementation, we had some issues.

30:41We've been delayed. Um, this is

30:43something that's out of the ordinary for

30:44us and uh, I'll let Angela talk about

30:47this, but then she can talk about the

30:49financials, but then what our goals are

30:50and what we're trying to do to get back

30:52on track toward back on schedule so that

30:54by the December of the following fiscal

30:57year, we've done our financial

30:58reporting. So, Angela, I'll let you uh,

31:01present the reports.

31:02>> Yes, thank you. Angela Pierce, chief

31:04financial officer. Um, as uh, city

31:06manager said, um, these are our

31:08financials that I'm presenting today for

31:10FY25. Um, and so they are a little bit

31:14stale at this point. Um, just some

31:16logistical information for you. I'm

31:18giving one presentation today, but I'm

31:20going to be talking about MFA, PPA, and

31:22the city's financial statements. And so

31:24for MFA, that's item A. For PPA, that's

31:28item D. And then on the council consent

31:31um, docket, that is C E. So, those are

31:34the agenda items that my presentation

31:36will be covering. Um, and before I get

31:39into the meat of the presentation, I

31:41just have to take a moment to express my

31:43deepest gratitude um to the entire

31:46accounting services division. They are

31:48led here by our controller, Adela Fedak,

31:51um Amy Parker, one of our assistant

31:52controllers, and Karen Sebert, our our

31:55second assistant controller.

31:57um along with every supporting division

31:59and department and trust in the city. It

32:01takes a uh it takes quite the village to

32:03produce these financial statements and

32:05so appreciate all the collaboration

32:07there. Typically, you'd see my

32:09accounting team here um in in council

32:12chambers today um so that we could

32:14recognize them in person. Um but

32:17unfortunately or fortunately, they're

32:19back at their desks today um pouring

32:22every bit of energy and time they have

32:24into meeting our next milestone. um

32:26meeting our next deadline. And so, as I

32:28said, these financials are a little bit

32:30stale at this point, but we're rolled up

32:32our sleeves and working super hard to

32:33get back on schedule. And so, that's why

32:36uh the staff is not here today. But I do

32:38have to say that producing reports of

32:40these caliber while navigating a massive

32:43ERP implementation.

32:45Um, it really takes extraordinary

32:47dedication and it's thanks to that team

32:49that we have a clean audit opinions

32:51today, reduced audit findings from last

32:53year and I just couldn't thank them

32:55enough.

32:59All right, so um on September 29th um

33:02our external auditors met with the city

33:05council um audit committee to go over um

33:08all three of these financial statements.

33:11Um we received the overarching message

33:13here is we have a clean audit opinion.

33:15Um the um unmodified audit opinion which

33:17is really what we strive for and um

33:21again we have reporting delays due to

33:23that ERP implementation

33:26but the the results of the audit. So we

33:28have um two significant deficiencies. Uh

33:32that word sounds sounds terrible, but I

33:35do want to remind you that last year one

33:37of those was a material weakness, which

33:39is which is much more severe than a

33:41significant deficiency. And so the first

33:44audit finding that we had this year is

33:46the same one we had last year. It's an

33:48overarching comment and audit finding on

33:50our ERP implementation primarily due to

33:53the timeliness of of the reports getting

33:56to leadership and our policy makers. And

33:59so um but what's great is our auditors

34:01recognized the effort and the progress

34:03that we've made and so that um uh last

34:07year's audit finding has been reduced to

34:10a lesser level of a finding and so our

34:12goal is to eliminate that finding

34:13altogether in the near future. But I did

34:16want to make you aware of that. We also

34:18had a second finding this year and this

34:20was on um a void notification on our

34:23cashiering system through the ERP

34:26implementation. there's coupling with

34:28other uh city um software programs and

34:31so we had a had a miss there on our void

34:34notifications and so we're partnering

34:35with it um to get that resolved right

34:38now.

34:39Um but uh again the the highlight is the

34:42unmodified uh clean audit opinion here.

34:46So for um MFA the net position increased

34:50slightly to 62.1 million which is good

34:53news.

34:55for PPA, we increased um over 27

34:59million, which is significant. Um I'll

35:01just add that that's primarily due to

35:03the construction um beginning

35:05construction of the new MBA arena, the

35:06Continental Coliseum, and also um some

35:09regularly scheduled debt payments, which

35:11reduced our liabilities for PPA

35:15for the um for the citywide financial

35:18statements. So, um, those include MFA

35:20and PPA, the two trusts I just discussed

35:22with you, but it also includes every

35:24trust and department across the city.

35:26So, it's kind of the conglomerate, the

35:28consolidation of all of that. Um, the

35:31the net position for the city as well as

35:34our our component units um increased a

35:37bit as well.

35:39And so um for our next steps, we have

35:42our single audit which is a separate

35:45document, a separate report that is an

35:47audit of our federal programs and our

35:49expenditures related to those grants.

35:52And so that will be coming in the next

35:54couple of months. Um and and as we

35:56continue to push to get back on

35:58schedule, I hope to see you um in just a

36:00couple of months in January with our

36:02FY26 financial statements. We're doing

36:05everything we can um to get us to that

36:07goal. So hopefully I'll be seeing you

36:09again soon to to proudly report those.

36:12And assuming we get your approval today,

36:14then all the reports will be out on

36:15OKC.gov for you or anyone of the public

36:18to enjoy.

36:20But happy to take any questions.

36:24>> Thank you, Angela. I I do want to say

36:25again what she, you know, just reiterate

36:27what she said before of appreciation for

36:30all of her team and the work that they

36:31do and then all the financial staff that

36:33are in the various departments and in

36:36our trusts. They put in a significant

36:38number of hours to get these done. I

36:40mean, over and above. And I really am

36:42grateful for the leadership in

36:43accounting, but as well in the financial

36:45services and all of our trust. So, I

36:47really do appreciate the staff. They

36:49work behind the scenes and don't get a

36:50lot of credit, but I'm grateful for the

36:51work they do.

36:52>> Thank you.

36:53>> Yes. Thank you, Angela, and to your

36:55team.

36:55>> Thank you.

37:00>> All [clears throat] right. There are no

37:02other presentations, so we could now

37:04adopt the MFA docket. items A through T

37:08if that is the council's desire.

37:14We have a motion and a second. Cast your

37:16votes.

37:21Passes unanimously. Now we'll adjourn

37:24OCMFA and convene as the Oklahoma City

37:26Public Property Authority where we have

37:28items A through E. We could take with

37:31one motion.

37:36We have a motion and a second.

37:39Cast your votes.

37:42[clears throat]

37:47Passes unanimously. Now we'll adjourn

37:49OCPA and reconvene as the council where

37:52we are on item nine, the consent docket.

37:55There are no scheduled presentations. Is

37:57there anything that a council member

37:58wishes to pull out for a separate vote

38:01or separate comment or question?

38:05>> Yes, mayor. Good morning.

38:07>> Morning.

38:08>> I would like to just for um more

38:12information

38:14items a there's three of them. They're

38:16in order. A w

38:20ax

38:23and a y.

38:26Okay.

38:27>> And I believe that is all for me. Thank

38:31you.

38:31>> Okay. Is there anything else?

38:36All right. Hearing none, that's what we

38:37will do then. We'll start with item AW.

38:39Councilman Cooper.

38:43>> Yes. I've read the memo and I've also

38:46looked at our vision 2025

38:50website and I just have some questions.

38:52Would you mind uh [clears throat]

38:54director just explaining what the

38:56request is here and then I'll have my

38:58follow-ups please. Thank you.

38:59>> Sure. Uh Debbie Miller with public works

39:02department. Uh item AW is a resolution

39:06expressing intent to apply for an ACOG

39:09uh grant on the STPG program. This is a

39:13resurfacing and pedestrian improvements

39:15for Northwest Expressway from Penn to

39:18North Classen. and we are um requesting

39:22them to select this. We've gone through

39:24a scoring process and this is a project

39:27that is very high. This is a resurfacing

39:31um it is re uh improving the pedestrian

39:35where pro we're putting a trail on one

39:37side and sidewalks probably on the other

39:40side and we're uh improving the

39:42intersection with pedestrian crossings.

39:46the pin intersection or the class

39:49intersection.

39:50>> Uh, we will look at both.

39:52>> Perfect. Good. Love this. You and I have

39:55talked about it for a while. I'm very

39:56grateful for this project. And then I

39:58want to dig down into that outside of

40:00council to kind of hear a little bit

40:02more of that vision.

40:04>> Um,

40:07no, not a pedestrian bridge. I

40:09>> No. Um, no. I'll pick it. Um item AX and

40:15Y

40:17>> uh they are both the same. They are

40:19resurfacing and intersection

40:21improvements. We're resurfacing uh

40:23improving the pedestrian sidewalks um on

40:25each side and improving the uh

40:29pedestrian and signals at the

40:31intersection.

40:32>> Okay. I appreciate that clarification

40:33because while the expressway one

40:36mentions the pedestrian, I didn't see

40:38the pedestrian

40:41um I saw resurfacing and intersection

40:42improvements for item AX

40:45and then item AY, which of course I

40:48wouldn't be mad about and I'm not mad,

40:50but when I looked at the 2025

40:53bond, um there's already funding for the

40:58resurfacing for each of those projects.

41:00I'm just trying to understand the intent

41:03there. If we've already secured funding,

41:06what's what's our strategy?

41:08>> Right. If we can get federal funding to

41:10assist with these projects, then we'll

41:13have a surplus that we'll be able to use

41:15on um other projects that exceed what

41:18we've allowed for. So, it's to help us

41:20make sure we complete the bond program.

41:23>> Okay. Which is good. And this will each

41:27item X and Y though not listed here uh

41:31would include pedestrian improvements in

41:33addition to the resurfacing and

41:35intersection or just Okay.

41:37>> Okay.

41:39Okay. I think that's all I have. Thank

41:42you so much. That's wonderful. Thank

41:43you.

41:43>> Baby, I have a question. Are each one of

41:45these grants 7 million or is that the

41:48tranch of money that could be divided up

41:50in between? because each one of them at

41:52the bottom had a baseline of 7.5

41:54million. Is that per

41:56>> per grant?

41:57>> That yes. Um each project the maximum

42:01amount we can get from ACOG is 7.5

42:03million. Um so these projects include

42:07fiber which I probably didn't say along

42:09with the pedestrian and uh intersection

42:12resurfacing. So yes and we are going to

42:14use the bond funds as a match.

42:17>> Thank you.

42:24>> [clears throat]

42:24>> All right. Well, then we can take up the

42:26consent docket.

42:31We have a motion and a second. Cast your

42:33votes.

42:45Council

42:45>> Averies, have you voted?

42:49passes unanimously.

42:51Next up is item 10, the concurrence

42:53docket. We have items

42:56A through R we could take with one

42:58motion.

43:02We have a motion and a second. Cast your

43:05votes.

43:13Passes unanimously.

43:15Now item 11, items for individual

43:17consideration. Uh, item 11 A is an

43:19ordinance on final hearing. It was

43:20recommended for approval reszoning 3850

43:23South Prospect Avenue from C3 to I1. Uh,

43:27Councilman Stone, no one assigned to

43:29speak.

43:30>> Thank you, Mayor. Uh, basically what

43:32this does is just consolidates the

43:34current zoning on an key property at

43:37this place. So, I'll go ahead and move

43:38for approval.

43:46We have a motion and a second. Cast your

43:48votes.

43:55Passes unanimously.

43:57Okay. Items 11B and C uh are related to

44:00each other. Item 11B2 is reszoning 3025

44:04North Frisco Road from double A and PUD

44:061637 to PUD 21005.

44:10And then uh item C2 is reszoning 13921

44:16Northwest 23rd from AA and PUD 1637 to

44:19PUD 2124.

44:22There are amendments to the master

44:23design statements in both items. Um and

44:26this has been deferred a number of times

44:28and Councilwoman Avers there are three

44:32people who have signed up to speak.

44:34>> Excellent. Thank you. Um can we start

44:37with the applicant presentation please?

44:51Good morning. David Box, 525 Northwest

44:5311th Street. Here on behalf of the

44:54applicant, also with us uh is the

44:56applicant as well as representatives

44:59from the civil engineering firm that is

45:01also representing uh Beltline Energy. Uh

45:03I want to first start by thanking uh

45:06staff. We have spent many many months

45:08better part of this year working on this

45:11document. This document was actually

45:13filed in August of 2025. Uh and it's

45:17taken a bunch of turns and changes since

45:19that time. Um we went through planning

45:21commission and planning commission did

45:23provide a unanimous recommendation for

45:25approval. And then I think we've set a

45:27record. I think we have more deferrals

45:29than any zoning case in the history of

45:30Oklahoma City. Uh so all all of which I

45:33say is a good thing because what those

45:34deferrals allowed us to do was to

45:36fine-tune this document, put this

45:39document in a position to be the most

45:41restrictive, most regulated, uh most um

45:45like I said, most regulated PUD that

45:47I've ever been a part of in Oklahoma

45:48City. And it's taken lots of changes

45:51since we first filed it. Uh

45:52predominantly what you'll find in this

45:54PUD as well as the next one is an

45:56exhibit D. And why that's important is

45:59uh PUDS can sometimes be confusing.

46:01There's a lot of boilerplate language in

46:03that. And what we've decided to do to

46:05not muddy the balance of the PUB is to

46:08house all of the data center regulations

46:10within exhibit D. Um if you look at

46:13exhibit D, it is a 24-page document. So

46:16in addition to the master design

46:18statement, the exhibit D which is

46:19incorporated by reference so that it is

46:21enforceable is a 24-page standalone

46:24document that will regulate uh my

46:26client's use and operation on this

46:28property. Why that's important is when

46:31you think of a data center, there are a

46:32few things that come to mind as uh

46:34concerns that people have. We think we

46:36have solved for all of those concerns

46:40within this document. And we'll talk

46:42about this more later. Importantly, even

46:45if there was something that was missed,

46:47there are catch-alls that exist that

46:49grant the city power to not issue

46:52building permits until a community

46:54benefit agreement has been reached. So,

46:56I want to go through just some of the

46:58highlights real quick and then I'll turn

46:59it over to my client to walk through a

47:02brief PowerPoint. But noise is one of

47:04the things that we constantly hear when

47:06it relates to data centers. So what we

47:08have done through exhibit D is we've

47:10said it's per code except the sound

47:12levels cannot exceed 55 dBA at perimeter

47:15of the prop perimeter of the property.

47:18One of the provisions that we have that

47:20we think is a significant benefit to the

47:21city is found under 1B.

47:24Prior to the issuance of any building

47:26permit, the applicant shall submit a

47:28noise study model prepared by a

47:30qualified acoustical engineer

47:32demonstrating that the proposed

47:34development conforms to the noise

47:36requirements set forth in exhibit D of

47:38this putt. So 55 dBA at the property.

47:41Why it's important given where this site

47:43is located is we are along Interstate

47:4640.

47:4755 dBA is going to be significantly less

47:51than the noise created by Interstate 40.

47:54along a highway that's one of the

47:55noisiest places in a city. We are

47:57significantly lower than that. But to

47:59prove that we know what we're doing, we

48:01are going to have to turn over to you

48:02before any building permit gets issued

48:04an acoustical study by a licensed

48:06professional to show that we meet or

48:08exceed the provisions in here. One of

48:11the other things that people complain

48:12about or concerned about is generator

48:13testing. So, what we've done is we've

48:15stated that generators are allowed to be

48:18tested between the hours of 10:00 a.m.

48:20and 400 p.m. Monday through Friday. Why

48:22we think that's important is that would

48:24be when people are tra traditionally not

48:26at their home. They're at work or

48:27they're doing other things. And so

48:29keeping it away from nighttime hours,

48:30keeping it away from the weekend, we

48:32think provides adequate protections. We

48:34have significant setbacks in both this

48:36PUD and then the one we'll hear next to

48:39ensure that the data center uh uses and

48:41the data center buildings are well

48:43within the property so that there's

48:45significant setback which will have

48:46landscaping and greenery so that from

48:48the driving public we're not creating

48:50big industrial monolithic buildings

48:52along the property. We have significant

48:55landscape buffers of 50 ft along all

48:57perimeters. So the facade regulations

49:00which are found in um paragraph 10,

49:03there was a concern that these buildings

49:05would just be blank wall monolithic and

49:07so we require uh varied articulation of

49:10the facade every 150 ft to ensure that

49:12these buildings are both uh

49:14appropriately maintained and attractive.

49:18We have a decommissioning plan which is

49:21going to be required prior to the

49:23issuance of any certificate of occupies

49:25for each building. We're going to have

49:26to provide that before any CO for each

49:29building to the city. Um, we've spent

49:31significant amount of time with

49:33utilities, public works departments,

49:35limiting our water usage, ensuring that

49:37whatever we do is consistent and

49:39compatible with what the city of

49:40Oklahoma City's utilities director wants

49:42to see. And I think perhaps the biggest

49:45hammer that the city has is going to be

49:47found um

49:54number 19 of exhibit D. Prior to the

49:57issuance of a city of Oklahoma City

49:59building permit, the applicant shall

50:00ensure that a legally binding community

50:03benefits agreement is executed by the

50:05city applicant and the project's end

50:08user. Why that's important is we can't

50:11move forward with a building permit

50:13until we have produced a CBA that is

50:16agreed upon by you. That means that if

50:19whatever we are proposing doesn't give

50:21you the comfort, doesn't give the

50:23constituents the comfort and doesn't

50:25give your public works director or the

50:27utilities director the comfort that

50:28whatever we're going to do is not going

50:30to be detrimental but perhaps will be

50:32beneficial.

50:33You can't issue us a building permit.

50:35That gives the city the ultimate

50:36protection in this. I have never seen

50:38any PUD any client any developer willing

50:40to do that. It is absolutely

50:42significant. Uh and then finally real

50:44briefly before I turn over to to Ryan

50:47you know during construction perhaps

50:48there will be some uh disruption of the

50:50road. And so what we provide is that

50:52prior to the issuance of a building

50:53permit the developer owner tenant end

50:56user shall enter into a road maintenance

50:57agreement where we have to maintain the

50:59road during construction and ultimately

51:01after construction put the road back to

51:04a position that meets city standards.

51:06So, we'll take on the obligation during

51:07construction and turn it back over to

51:09the city in a position perhaps better

51:11than it is today, which we believe also

51:13to be significant. So, real briefly,

51:15I'll turn it over to Ryan and then come

51:17back up to answer questions.

51:23So,

51:25is this technology?

51:32>> Mr. Mayor, Oklahoma City Council, we

51:34appreciate the opportunity to come

51:36before you today. This is the

51:37culmination of a long, thoughtful,

51:40extended planning process. Uh, as you

51:42heard Mr. Box reference, um, we

51:46appreciate your consideration. These

51:48digital infrastructure projects that

51:50we're that we bring forward today, um,

51:53it's it's a fact to say that they they

51:56ask a lot of our elected officials. They

51:58bring transformative generational

52:01economic impact to the communities, but

52:04there are significant and real concerns

52:06in the community that have to be

52:08addressed in a proactive manner um in

52:11order to make these make sense. And you

52:13can't address those concerns without

52:15putting the time and the effort and the

52:16hard work in um and from the beginning.

52:20We've been at this for a year.

52:23Oklahoma City planning staff, the

52:26commission, legal, across the board has

52:29put in an enormous amount of time and

52:31effort and hard work. The time and

52:33effort and the hard work that's needed

52:34to make these projects successful, to

52:36make them a good fit in the community.

52:38Um, and we come here today, there's a

52:42handful of uh community members that are

52:44going to come before you after we're

52:46done. And um, we know them by name. And

52:49what makes this project different than

52:51really

52:53most digital infrastructure projects and

52:55certainly the projects that we're

52:57working on um is the community

53:00engagement. We've had successful

53:02community engagement with Ward 3 and

53:05that has allowed us to dig in deep and

53:08create a plan that we think um maximizes

53:11the benefit of our project. Um and I

53:14attribute this community engagement to

53:15three things. Quality leadership both at

53:19the council level. I I will say

53:21Councilwoman Avers has done an

53:24unprecedented job in our professional

53:26experience consensus building. She built

53:30community leadership teams where we

53:32didn't have to come and organize them.

53:33They were already organized. They were

53:35thoughtful community members um that

53:38were good to work with. They they

53:40weren't permissive. They were driven by

53:43a passion for their community. um and

53:47they came in with with clean hands the

53:50same way we did and it led to productive

53:52conversations. So quality leadership

53:53both at the local level and at the

53:55elected official level. And third, this

53:58is this is something that is is a little

54:02different. We walked into this. We

54:03didn't create this situation, but Ward 3

54:05is a ward in transition. It is a

54:08agrarian community. It's an agricultural

54:10community. Um but currently they are in

54:13the path of progress. the the cost basis

54:17of the acreage in W three has exceeded

54:20the price point where you can acquire

54:22that land and successfully farm it or

54:25use it for agricultural purposes. So

54:28they know that they're in transition.

54:29When we came to their community and we

54:31had these conversations and we talked

54:33about being in transition, there was the

54:35community was nodding. They were nodding

54:37their heads, right? And this the reality

54:39is is this. Now that the land has has

54:42outstripped the the farm pricing, the

54:44cost basis for farming, it's

54:46transitioning peacemeal, right? You have

54:48this industrial sprawl because the

54:50highway is out there and parcels are

54:53going in a one-off basis without a

54:55cohesive plan. And I think you'll hear a

54:57lot about the community benefit that's

55:00been discussed for our project. And

55:03worth noting, we come in here eyes wide

55:06open that there there has been clear

55:08expectations set from the beginning.

55:10Oklahoma City is not interested in

55:12offering our project incentives. You've

55:14said that from the beginning. You've

55:16been consistent and we come in here

55:19today knowing that that's the case.

55:21We're designing our project about, you

55:23know, in a way that we come into your

55:25community. We're not looking for a

55:27handout. We're looking to pay our way.

55:29We're looking to cover all

55:31infrastructure costs, all negative

55:33externalities associated potentially

55:35associated with our project and put no

55:37upward pressure on existing citizens in

55:40W 3, no upward pressure on existing

55:42rateayers with OG&. Um, and we are going

55:45to the fullest extent possible mitigate

55:48any negative output uh outcome of our

55:50construction project.

55:52Um so because Ward 3 is a wardend

55:56[clears throat]

55:57transition, our project has the critical

56:00mass, the economic impact and economic

56:02gravity to allow them to organize the

56:05transition to conduct that transition in

56:08a way that maintains the character of W

56:103. And I cannot tell you how important

56:14the character of W three has been in all

56:17of our community meetings. I don't think

56:19it's understating it to say every

56:21meeting almost virtually to a man there

56:23was a passion for WI 3. There was a

56:26burning passion for Banner schools. Um I

56:29can just say um one of the most

56:31important community leaders that we

56:32engaged with was a gentleman by the name

56:34of Adam Slaterly. He showed up to these

56:37meetings because he cared about Banner

56:38schools and that was why he's here. And

56:40I think you'll hear it from the

56:41community. We have a couple people here

56:42today.

56:44If they could wave a magic wand and go

56:46back to the way it was and maintain the

56:48character of WI three and they weren't

56:49in transition and the highway hadn't

56:51come through and the cost basis hadn't

56:52gone up, that may be an option that they

56:55would choose. But that option doesn't

56:57exist. And given that it doesn't exist,

57:00we can come in with the economic benefit

57:03of our project. They can thoughtfully

57:06craft a comprehensive plan specific to W

57:10three, broad enough to impact all of

57:12Oklahoma City. all of the wards and they

57:15can they can execute this this orderly

57:17change. They can maintain their

57:19character and they can go to the next

57:21chapter of W three and I think that is

57:24the stakes here instead of industrial

57:27sprawl that takes down one farm at a

57:30time with no cohesive plan. Our projects

57:32offers an orderly transition and that

57:35was been that has been a that concept

57:39that idea has been well received by the

57:41community. So they're not out waving

57:42flags saying that they they'd love 10

57:45data centers to come to town, but they

57:47do appreciate they're in the path of

57:48progress and with the right data center

57:50that comes to town with clean hands, not

57:53looking to to operate unregulated, but

57:55operate, but looking to be regulated in

57:57a thoughtful manner, in a commercially

57:58reasonable manner so that we can be good

58:01corporate citizens toward to Ward three

58:04and Councilwoman Avers, I I think

58:06through a lot of hard work and a lot of

58:08community meetings, through a lot of

58:09your leadership and guidance, Um, I

58:12think we've gotten there. So, with those

58:14remarks, I'll turn to my presentation.

58:17Um, Dave has done a great job of hitting

58:19some of the high notes that he knows are

58:21important to this council. Um, we have a

58:23website that's up and I'll walk you

58:26through it and then be available for any

58:28questions you guys may have.

58:32So, we've been at this a while. this

58:34slide deck. Sometimes we're talking to

58:36to councils that haven't been at this

58:39for a year, haven't put the hard work

58:40in. So, this is a little bit rudimentary

58:43for for you guys. But, we are largely a

58:46server room. This used to be internal to

58:48large uh enterprise corporations. Um, as

58:52data became more in data usage became

58:54more intensive, these server rooms moved

58:56out of um the actual businesses in which

59:00they were serving. They moved into

59:02server rooms that were off-site and then

59:05they got larger when data moved into the

59:07cloud. Um

59:10they support well the equipment,

59:12servers, network connections, um a large

59:15slug of energy brought in by OG& and

59:17then a significant uh mechanical

59:19investment in cooling systems.

59:22And these support

59:24a ubiquitous amount of of internet

59:26usage, right? everything from from Candy

59:28Crush on your phone to you know missile

59:31defense for the department of defense or

59:33department of war. Um they have business

59:36applications, government applications.

59:38Um and importantly

59:41they are keeping us on the cutting edge

59:43of artificial intelligence and that's

59:45not always a household name that people

59:48fully appreciate but it is essential to

59:51our to our role in the geopolitical

59:53economy. Right? We we can't maintain our

59:56our leadership role on a global level.

59:59We can't maintain our national defense

1:00:02unless we are the leaders and we our

1:00:06society, our culture leads the AI and

1:00:09wins the AI race. And it's it's it's

1:00:12really just that

1:00:14essential and fundamental to our our

1:00:16national well-being. It's it's it's

1:00:18critical that we win this AI race. um

1:00:21our peer adversaries do not have our

1:00:23best interests in mind and in order to

1:00:25maintain our position in the world for

1:00:28the next generation this AI race is

1:00:30important to that. These facilities um

1:00:33operate continuously which is what

1:00:35drives the primary challenges that we

1:00:38have to mitigate. Um they need reliable

1:00:41electricity

1:00:42and they need 247 cooling equipment

1:00:45that's operated around the clock to

1:00:46maintain um the operational status of

1:00:49our project.

1:00:51Initially when these things moved when

1:00:54these data centers moved out of the

1:00:56corporate locations and they moved out

1:00:58of just traditional server rooms and

1:01:00moved into the cloud and got larger. Um

1:01:04as an industry we weren't as proactive

1:01:06at mitigating the negative

1:01:07externalities. And this is seven, eight

1:01:09years ago. Um, and we've got a bad

1:01:11reputation. And in meetings like this,

1:01:14every day of my life, every day of our

1:01:16industry's life, we're overcoming that

1:01:18bad reputation. And we're doing that

1:01:20through innovation, we're doing that

1:01:21through investment, we're doing that

1:01:23through community engagement. And we

1:01:25have been thrilled with our experience

1:01:27in OKC because while the innovation um

1:01:31is going on behind the scenes on our

1:01:32side, this is an unprecedented community

1:01:35as far as community engagement. Um,

1:01:38Katrina was She didn't promise us

1:01:41anything. She didn't give us anything.

1:01:42Councilwoman Avers opened the door and

1:01:46allowed us to engage and then she judged

1:01:48us by that engagement. And we

1:01:50appreciated the opportunity to engage.

1:01:52We appreciated her withholding her

1:01:54opinion until she saw us get in front of

1:01:56her community until she had reviewed

1:01:58what we'd put forward. So, we appreciate

1:02:00the thoughtfulness. Okay.

1:02:05Here's our project. It's located. It's

1:02:07bifrocated by Iway I40. 110 acres to the

1:02:10north. 184 acres to the south.

1:02:15Sorry.

1:02:19Sorry. Booming out here, guys.

1:02:25>> Like every day

1:02:28update.

1:02:28>> I don't know how to get down beyond page

1:02:30three. There we go. There we go. So most

1:02:33importantly, we address um we address

1:02:36the community concerns. We we've heard

1:02:38and and the community concerns here are

1:02:40very much ubiquitous across all the

1:02:42communities are in noise, water,

1:02:44traffic, public safety, community

1:02:46impact, quality of life, environmental

1:02:48uh impact. And then community uh

1:02:51communication and transparency

1:02:5355 dB uh perimeter cap. We have

1:02:56continuous testing, noise study,

1:02:58generator testing is limited to only the

1:03:00weekdays. Um, no private wells. That was

1:03:02a huge issue in Oklahoma. Um, and our

1:03:04portable usage is capped at 75,000

1:03:07gallons. Um, we have appropriate

1:03:09setbacks to maintain quality of life.

1:03:11Our environmental impact is is mitigated

1:03:14through water, sewer, landscaping, and

1:03:17addressing all of the applicable codes

1:03:20plus the additional requirements that

1:03:22had been thoughtfully included in the

1:03:24PUD.

1:03:28I cannot get this. There we go. And so

1:03:31you don't lose leverage. We come through

1:03:32here today talking about an entitlement.

1:03:35Um

1:03:37be after the entitlement process, we

1:03:39move into a community benefits

1:03:40agreement. We cannot proceed forward

1:03:42until we have met the requirements and

1:03:45the needs the financial and the

1:03:47infrastructure investment required by

1:03:50the city. And then before occupancy, we

1:03:52have to have a regular a regulator

1:03:54approved electric contract with OG&. We

1:03:57have to have a noise and emergency plan.

1:04:00Um and then we have ongoing re uh

1:04:02regulations during operations.

1:04:08Okay. So why we're all here is because

1:04:13of the economic benefit. We've put the

1:04:15time and effort in to mitigate the

1:04:17negative extra ex externalities so you

1:04:19can get to the sales tax, the franchise

1:04:21fee, and the ad valerum. And

1:04:26this community benefit agreement

1:04:28is what allows the revenues to be

1:04:31delivered to W 3 and the larger OK

1:04:33Oklahoma City community that will help

1:04:35them affect that W three change and the

1:04:37larger goals of Oklahoma City.

1:04:41Thank you for your consideration.

1:04:44I can't

1:04:46thank you very much for your

1:04:47consideration. I'm here for any

1:04:48questions you may have.

1:04:54Um I have a question about the you said

1:04:57that the water usage is capped unless

1:05:00utilities

1:05:01approves an increase. Do we know what

1:05:06utilities will what measurements or

1:05:09considerations utilities would use to

1:05:13make that determination?

1:05:15So, I I don't want to speak for utility,

1:05:17but we have capp it at the 75,000 per

1:05:19day and we've we've designed the project

1:05:21to make that work. Don't want to speak

1:05:23for what circumstances utilities may um

1:05:26allow.

1:05:30>> 75,000 gallons a day is equal to a

1:05:33shopping mall, a school, an apartment

1:05:36complex.

1:05:38>> Uh Josh Morgan, assistant utilities

1:05:40director. Yeah. 75,000 gallons a day is

1:05:43the equivalent of just over 2 million

1:05:44gallons a month, which is medium-sized

1:05:47industry here in Oklahoma City. Um, we

1:05:49we worked well with them to to not limit

1:05:52their ability to move forward, but to

1:05:53not grant them any additional water

1:05:55supply than any other standard

1:05:57medium-sized industrial user would use.

1:05:59It's it's relatively speaking, it's a

1:06:01minimal amount for this type of purpose.

1:06:03>> And I think the intent as we looked at

1:06:04this was that it's not water for

1:06:06cooling. It's just for domestic

1:06:08purposes.

1:06:10Correct.

1:06:12>> So, um, and this is actually something

1:06:14that I loved getting to see through this

1:06:16process because we started out trying to

1:06:18like kind of making a laundry list,

1:06:20which is what you see most often in some

1:06:22of the news media of all the things that

1:06:24you can't do. But what we ended up

1:06:26realizing is we were going into

1:06:28prescriptive rule making, which is the

1:06:30most um [clears throat] archaic and

1:06:32constraining form because we're working

1:06:34in an innovation space. And really what

1:06:36we're concerned about is the

1:06:37performance, the amount of water. And so

1:06:39the public water department looked at

1:06:42what are our regular uses from midsize

1:06:46businesses, small businesses, large

1:06:48businesses, and then used that as a

1:06:50framework to set the standard for this.

1:06:52And that way we're actually setting a

1:06:54performance-based standard that we would

1:06:55apply across any midsize business that

1:06:59makes sense. We have a few uh mid-size

1:07:02businesses that use more than that um

1:07:04like our water bottling company, but

1:07:06obviously they're using water for a

1:07:09different purpose than for traditional

1:07:11consumption. And so this was a really

1:07:13great benchmark. And to me, uh I loved

1:07:16getting to work through the process of

1:07:18the no no, we can't do this, we can't do

1:07:21this to all right, what we're really

1:07:23trying to say is we want this to be

1:07:25equivalent to our other industries and

1:07:27what we would expect. And I think that

1:07:29this was a very fair approach to that.

1:07:32>> Correct. Yeah. When Mr. Sanders talked

1:07:33about the innovative approaches that

1:07:35that's how we got to this, right? We we

1:07:37like just like Councilwoman Aver said,

1:07:38we looked at what are our what are our

1:07:40users using today and then kind of set

1:07:42that as the guardrail and they were able

1:07:43to come up with solution the state

1:07:45inside of that.

1:07:54>> Are we at the point where you'd like to

1:07:55hear from residents?

1:07:56>> Um yes. So next Is are there any other

1:07:59questions or we'll have another time for

1:08:01discussion?

1:08:02>> Of course.

1:08:02>> Um for the residents to be heard,

1:08:05please.

1:08:06>> All right. Uh Deborah Brown.

1:08:15>> Hi. Good morning, Mayor Council. I' I've

1:08:17spoken to y'all before. Um I live on

1:08:2115500 West Reno. I'm used to be the

1:08:24furthest house west in Oklahoma City

1:08:26limits. I live in the agricultural

1:08:29preserve of Oklahoma City. Um, contrary

1:08:32to popular belief, it's not the wild

1:08:34west and we're not crazy people out

1:08:37there. We're just very passionate about

1:08:40the land that we have uh now inherited.

1:08:44So, it's our turn at my age to be

1:08:48stewards of that land. And what I've

1:08:51learned during this process is that

1:08:57well a lot of things but Oklahoma City

1:08:59really has only one way to move and to

1:09:03grow larger in land mass and that's

1:09:05west. Um and that's where I live. So if

1:09:09I look back at what has been going on

1:09:12versus where we want to go, I have to

1:09:16look at what can I do to make that

1:09:19process better for the next generation

1:09:21for my kids um and whoever might live

1:09:25out there to be the best it can be. Um I

1:09:29want to thank um our councilwoman Aver.

1:09:32has worked tirelessly

1:09:35and has delved into things that I really

1:09:39feel like the Oklahoma City should do

1:09:41more often with projects because it has

1:09:44allowed

1:09:45um I think some better ways of going

1:09:48about new growth in our city. Um

1:09:53so what does a good neighbor look like?

1:09:55That's what um I think what I need to

1:10:00look at as far as if Oklahoma City is

1:10:01coming my way. Um what have we done in

1:10:04the past that hasn't worked and what can

1:10:07we do better to make it

1:10:11a good neighbor for the farmers, the

1:10:13ranchers, [snorts]

1:10:14and the growth of Oklahoma City. Um and

1:10:18then in my area, it's going to be

1:10:20planning for growth, public safety. We

1:10:24have a now we have a fire station about

1:10:26three miles south, but police coverage

1:10:29is very sparse. Um when our house was

1:10:32broken into, I waited an hour. Um they

1:10:35sent someone from East Reno, not West

1:10:37Reno. Um and things could have been

1:10:39going on, but I sat there and waited and

1:10:42was kind of frantic.

1:10:45So, and what does the quality of life

1:10:46look out there?

1:10:47>> 30 seconds remaining.

1:10:48>> We have that that we have to look at. We

1:10:52also have how can we preserve our

1:10:55agricultural our natural resources

1:10:58um and community wellness. We don't have

1:11:01parks out there. Can we have a park? Um

1:11:03possibly. We were talking about the

1:11:05marathon. I I that's a field for me. Um

1:11:10a community partnership. Be good

1:11:12neighbor. Don't just give us something.

1:11:15Interact with the neighbors. Let's find

1:11:17out what how because we are good

1:11:21neighbors and we can work um with what's

1:11:24coming. We just need that opportunity to

1:11:26be heard and to listen to. Um

1:11:31we want to preserve what we have, but

1:11:33yet we know that the future is coming.

1:11:36Um and thank you.

1:11:38>> We just want to make sure that it's that

1:11:40it's good and listen to us. Thank you.

1:11:42>> Thank you,

1:11:44>> Stephanie Berdine.

1:11:54>> [clears throat]

1:12:01>> Good morning.

1:12:02>> Good morning.

1:12:03>> My what a year. What can happen in a

1:12:06year? Um,

1:12:09this has been a process that even though

1:12:12I'm a Yukon resident, has greatly

1:12:15affected the city of Yukon because this

1:12:19pro this data center is in both cities.

1:12:24It affects all of us. Um,

1:12:28I do appreciate the the thoughtfulness

1:12:31and that even though it was frustrating

1:12:33to be deferred 8, 12 times, whatever it

1:12:36was, it was also worth it because

1:12:40a few things happened that did benefit.

1:12:43I think you all listened to our sound

1:12:45study that was put together

1:12:48professionally and scientifically, and I

1:12:51appreciate that. But there's still some

1:12:54questions that nobody's addressing right

1:12:57now. The modified exhibit D, it it's

1:13:01kind of confusing. Is it air cooled? Is

1:13:04it reclaimed water? Um what's what's

1:13:08going to happen? Is it both

1:13:11on the Oklahoma City side?

1:13:16>> Okay. Okay. That that is a concern. And

1:13:19um

1:13:21yes, I've been in many talks with

1:13:23Beltline through all this and

1:13:27some of the stuff they're saying. Yeah,

1:13:29it's okay. But

1:13:32I just don't think you realize I still

1:13:34want y'all to vote no on this. I I mean,

1:13:36you know, it's a pipe dream. I think I

1:13:38don't think you all have any intention

1:13:39of voting no to approve this. And yes,

1:13:43some things have happened, but just

1:13:46remember,

1:13:47you're going to allow sound that is

1:13:52annoying even at the lower dB,

1:13:57we're still going to have to listen to

1:13:58it 24/7.

1:14:01And homes that are only 300 ft away.

1:14:06the property values in Yukon on houses

1:14:09I'm really concerned about because I

1:14:12think that will affect it and I'm also

1:14:15concerned about the bigger picture of

1:14:17water

1:14:19because Yukon we're you we need Oklahoma

1:14:22City we need you all Bradley you're very

1:14:24aware of this Yukon needs to buy water

1:14:27from Oklahoma City but so do a lot of

1:14:29other things and you all are so much is

1:14:32happening now you might need to think

1:14:36about,

1:14:38are we going to have enough water? You

1:14:41want more houses in your area. Ward one

1:14:43wants more houses. W three wants all

1:14:45this business. Where's the water going

1:14:47to come from? So, even though it's not

1:14:50going to go to a data center, hopefully,

1:14:53and I don't think it is, but

1:14:57it you there there's there's more to

1:15:00this than just what we're voting on

1:15:02today. And I just hope y'all will still

1:15:04vote no on it. And um I hope that what

1:15:08you've said, Ryan, I hope that you will

1:15:10continue to communicate with Yukon

1:15:12because the people are still really

1:15:16really frustrated and hopefully after

1:15:18next week the guy you did all your

1:15:20negotiating with is gone. Thank you for

1:15:24your time.

1:15:28>> Thank you, David Blankenship.

1:15:31Morning,

1:15:36mayor, city council.

1:15:39Find this real quick.

1:15:42I just had it. There we go.

1:15:46Come on. My name is David Blankenship. I

1:15:49live in Yukon. I am here to formally

1:15:51oppose PUD 21105 and PUD 2124.

1:15:56I am asking every member of this council

1:15:58to vote no on both applications. What is

1:16:00happening to our community makes me

1:16:02sick. It makes me angry. And frankly, I

1:16:04find it deeply disturbing.

1:16:07We're not talking about just two

1:16:08proposed data centers. Yukon already has

1:16:10a third data center proposed. That means

1:16:12three proposed data centers within

1:16:14approximately well too close to my home

1:16:16and everybody else's live in that area.

1:16:19Three massive industrial developments

1:16:21concentrated in one small area yet being

1:16:23considered through separate municipal

1:16:25approval processes. Who is evaluating?

1:16:27Who is evaluating their combined

1:16:28impacts? That's the big question here. I

1:16:31think

1:16:32the two Oklahoma City proposals alone

1:16:34cover nearly 300 acres. What will three

1:16:36developments mean for our water

1:16:38supplies, our wastewater systems,

1:16:40electrical grid, noise levels, drainage,

1:16:42and emergency services?

1:16:45The proposed regulations contain a

1:16:4775,000galon per day potable water

1:16:50provision for each Oklahoma City

1:16:51project, but allow

1:16:54written exceptions. So, what is the

1:16:56actual maximum combined demand demand?

1:16:59heard somebody say something about 2

1:17:00million gallons a month. That sounds

1:17:02like a lot, honestly.

1:17:06Um,

1:17:07and what guarantees do existing utility

1:17:10uh customers have that they won't end up

1:17:12paying for infrastructure required by

1:17:14these developments? I haven't seen

1:17:16anything about that.

1:17:18The community benefits agreements aren't

1:17:20even required until the building permit

1:17:22stage. And that's doesn't seem right

1:17:24either.

1:17:27Why should this council approve these

1:17:28resonings before those agreements are

1:17:30finalized and available for public

1:17:31examination?

1:17:33These aren't just parcels on a zoning

1:17:35map. They are people's homes,

1:17:36neighborhoods, backyards, property

1:17:39values, and quality of life. I am not

1:17:41opposed to reasonable economic

1:17:43development, but I am absolutely opposed

1:17:44to sacrificing established communities

1:17:46for it. Three proposed data centers,

1:17:49three separate developments, one

1:17:51surrounding community bearing their

1:17:52combined impact.

1:17:55I'm not asking for another postponement.

1:17:56I'm asking you to reject both PUDs and

1:17:59vote no. Thank you.

1:18:03>> Thank you, Paula Kelly.

1:18:12>> Good morning, Mayor and Council. I know

1:18:14this is unusual for me to be standing

1:18:17before you um for a matter that appears

1:18:20on the agenda that isn't part of my

1:18:22employment, but I am here today to ask

1:18:25you. I my address is 588 Garbrooks

1:18:28Boulevard. My home is about a mile from

1:18:32this proposed data center. My home that

1:18:35I know a lot of you are aware of is uh

1:18:38being constructed right next to 40 acres

1:18:41of uh woods and creek and uh nature and

1:18:48uh we have constructed uh over five mile

1:18:52mountain bike trail on that property to

1:18:54benefit the community both Oklahoma City

1:18:57the number of individuals that we have

1:18:59visit our mountain bike trail from

1:19:01Oklahoma City but then also the city of

1:19:02Yukon is is amazing really. Um there

1:19:06aren't a lot of wooded areas left here.

1:19:10There is not a lot of uh natural

1:19:13resources left besides the agricultural

1:19:16acreage that historically has been um

1:19:20you know prevalent part of Canadian

1:19:22County and a prevalent part of this

1:19:23area.

1:19:25Many of you have been on phone calls

1:19:27with me in in meetings where you heard

1:19:29the birds, you heard, you know, the

1:19:31wildlife behind me and appreciated that

1:19:33and were jealous of that. I I have not

1:19:37been involved in any of the

1:19:39conversations surrounding these data

1:19:41centers because I I just didn't want to

1:19:44compromise um you know my not my

1:19:48employment but you know just that's not

1:19:50what I do. So you haven't heard from me

1:19:52before today.

1:19:55I would be remiss if I did not stand

1:19:58here and give you my opinion and my ask

1:20:03that you reject this PUD.

1:20:07if I didn't do it for my daughter, for

1:20:09my future grandchildren, but then also

1:20:13all of the children, all of uh the

1:20:15people that want to enjoy being outside

1:20:19in Yukon in Canadian County. And from a

1:20:23business standpoint, I would ask you,

1:20:25you know, a lot of the the complaints

1:20:29and the objections about data centers, I

1:20:32mean, they're they are pretty

1:20:33speculative. I admit we don't really

1:20:35know what the true impact is going to

1:20:37be. But why would you want to take that

1:20:40chance? Why would you want to take that

1:20:43chance in building

1:20:45a massive [clears throat]

1:20:47>> structure

1:20:48just west of the western boundary of

1:20:51Oklahoma City um in Yukon? I guess now

1:20:54I'm going to have to do the same thing

1:20:56in Yukon. I was hoping not to. um that

1:21:00might be empty and useless because

1:21:02technology is advancing. You know, are

1:21:05these going to be needed structures? Is

1:21:08this technology are we going to be, you

1:21:11know, relying on it in five, 10 years?

1:21:15So, my final plea I ask you, you'll see

1:21:18my face every day. [laughter] I I know

1:21:21you guys are are very conscientious

1:21:24about your constituents and it doesn't

1:21:26have to be that you see, you know,

1:21:28someone every day. You represent your

1:21:31constituents, the citizens of Oklahoma

1:21:33City, very faithfully um and with due

1:21:36diligence. And I am asking you on behalf

1:21:39of all of those and myself individually

1:21:42to please reject this. Thank you.

1:21:45>> Thank you.

1:21:48Um, Councilwoman Avers, that concludes

1:21:50our residents who signed up to speak.

1:21:53>> Thank you, Mayor.

1:21:55So, one of the things that I've learned

1:21:57in this process over the last year is

1:22:02what does true governance look like? And

1:22:05a lot of times I think we don't get to

1:22:08see what that looks like. I've gotten a

1:22:10front row seat over the past year as

1:22:12I've learned through the planning

1:22:14commission process and the the community

1:22:17meetings. And so I want to share with

1:22:19you a little bit of what goes on before

1:22:21we get to these meetings. And the same

1:22:24type of conversations actually happen

1:22:26before planning commission as well. And

1:22:29if they don't happen, then uh Mr. Box

1:22:31and Mr. Zitz know that I'll say, "Hey

1:22:34guys, we need to make sure we're having

1:22:35a community meeting first." Um, not

1:22:38because property or property rights um

1:22:41are owned by your neighbors, but because

1:22:44good neighbors when they share a fence

1:22:47have conversations about how they're

1:22:49going to build the fence, how they're

1:22:51going to be in their um relationship

1:22:53with each other. And I want that

1:22:56standard to be set early in the process.

1:23:00And um so over the last year, we've

1:23:02gotten to um learn a lot. you will see

1:23:06that Oklahoma City has put um put a

1:23:08moratorum in place around data centers

1:23:11not because we're fearful of data

1:23:13centers but because we wanted to

1:23:14understand what the asks were, what the

1:23:18concerns were and how we could best

1:23:21navigate those in the best interest of

1:23:23our whole community.

1:23:25So, we had community meetings um almost

1:23:29from day one. Sometimes it was pancakes

1:23:32and breakfast where the pancakes didn't

1:23:34get eaten because we were so busy

1:23:36talking or it was meeting in a horse

1:23:38barn um over at Express Ranches or it

1:23:42was um or it was conversations over

1:23:46sorbet and a dining room table. And

1:23:49that's the type of conversations that

1:23:51really help you know what's going on in

1:23:53your community, what are people's

1:23:55concerns, and how do we plan for the

1:23:58next generation? And that I think is the

1:24:00mindfulness that actually every council

1:24:02member brings to the conversation every

1:24:05day and that each of us as residents

1:24:08bring to the conversation as well. Um,

1:24:12one of the things that I've gotten to

1:24:14see is when you come to the table and

1:24:16you come to the table and it's my way or

1:24:18the highway and really, um, it doesn't

1:24:21matter what is said or what is done,

1:24:23there's not going to be any movement or

1:24:25when there's a true heart of figuring

1:24:27out how you can be good neighbors and

1:24:30what makes sense.

1:24:32And so as we um as as I learned of this

1:24:36application, because a lot of times I'll

1:24:37get a notice from applicants saying,

1:24:40"Hey, we're looking at doing a

1:24:42development in this area." And um most

1:24:45often it's residential developments in

1:24:47in W 3 currently. Um

1:24:51that is that is the majority of them.

1:24:54But this one um whenever it came to me,

1:24:57I was like, "Okay, a data center. I need

1:25:00to understand what this is. And um

1:25:03whenever I learned that it was a$ 15

1:25:05billion dollar project, I thought that

1:25:08doesn't happen very often. I better do

1:25:10some really good research here because

1:25:12this is my land. It is my community. It

1:25:16is literally right down the street from

1:25:18where I live.

1:25:21So the community meetings are just part

1:25:23of that conversation. Um our council

1:25:25members, we had multiple people,

1:25:27multiple council members. We also had

1:25:29planning staff. We had um planning

1:25:32commissioners go to different facilities

1:25:35so they could understand how is a

1:25:37facility that is done right? What does

1:25:40that look like in a community? How does

1:25:42it benefit a community? How does it fit

1:25:44the needs? And then we also got to see

1:25:47what we didn't like, what we didn't

1:25:49want, and really be able to have

1:25:51discernment around that. So when we see

1:25:53things in the news, it's not all um it's

1:25:58not just this. It's not fabricated

1:25:59information. It's a reflection of the

1:26:01extremes of any industry that we can all

1:26:05recognize whether it's in a school

1:26:07system, a law firm, a an innovation hub.

1:26:12There are things that can be done well

1:26:14and there are things that can be done

1:26:15poorly.

1:26:17And understanding that enabled us as a

1:26:20community um as a team to bring our

1:26:23respective expertises and identify what

1:26:26does success look like in this

1:26:28application? How can it be good for the

1:26:31city, good for the community, good for

1:26:33the neighbors, good in my backyard?

1:26:38Um, so we pulled together best practices

1:26:41research and I hate to hear you say that

1:26:43it's the most regulated PUD that you've

1:26:44ever seen, but at the same time I think

1:26:47that it showcases a learning process.

1:26:50And I think that while it is regulated,

1:26:53it is in a way that is performancedriven

1:26:55and makes sense and is equivalent across

1:26:58industries and protects um our neighbors

1:27:02and communities as we lean into what

1:27:04does the next generation look like

1:27:06cautiously, proactively, and

1:27:09innovatively.

1:27:12Um, something that I am so thankful and

1:27:15I I wish that the whole legal team was

1:27:17here today because Oklahoma City has

1:27:20something that most towns in Oklahoma or

1:27:23Texas or um the East Coast or the West

1:27:26Coast doesn't don't have and that is

1:27:28we're we're a a top 20 city and we have

1:27:32a legal staff that is deep. We've got a

1:27:35bench of people that can evaluate from

1:27:38every single industry. So we had our

1:27:40water specialists, we had our tax

1:27:43specialists, we had our energy

1:27:45specialists, we hired in additional

1:27:48legal counsel. And so when we put

1:27:50together this agreement, this ordinance,

1:27:53uh this this PUD, it wasn't based on one

1:27:56people, one person's expertise. It was

1:27:58based on the community's feedback, the

1:28:01council's experience, the legal team's

1:28:04expertise, and the recognition that

1:28:06sometimes you even pull in people from

1:28:08the outside.

1:28:10Our council members reached out um to

1:28:12other cities that have had similar

1:28:15developments and said, "Hey, we're

1:28:17hearing all this stuff in the news.

1:28:19What's going on in your community?

1:28:21What's real life? What's happening?" And

1:28:25we listened. and we listened to

1:28:27understand

1:28:29what was good and what could be improved

1:28:31and we incorporated those as best

1:28:34practices in a pud that I think is um a

1:28:39best standard um that reflects the

1:28:42learning from so many different

1:28:44operations.

1:28:46So

1:28:48I hear the the conversations that came

1:28:51from Yukon. Deborah Brown is from

1:28:53Oklahoma City. She has literally been to

1:28:56every single community meeting that I've

1:28:59been to. And you've probably seen her

1:29:00here before in a position of

1:29:03we're we're struggling out here. We need

1:29:05infrastructure investment. We need

1:29:07public safety investment. We need um

1:29:11we need a well-rounded approach to

1:29:14economic development that involves a

1:29:16comprehensive plan that doesn't just say

1:29:18agriculture until the next PUD comes

1:29:20along. And I think that um even though

1:29:24it is a a$ 15 billion dollar

1:29:27development, what that means for the

1:29:28city is it creates an economic basis so

1:29:32that those types of considerations can

1:29:34be made and they can be made

1:29:36intentionally and strategically. And um

1:29:40and I think that that is the heart that

1:29:42I want to put forward is as we look at

1:29:46the different elements

1:29:48um

1:29:53we want to support development that

1:29:56makes sense in the long-term plan that

1:29:59can help us have quality of life across

1:30:02the board. And so I would like to ask um

1:30:06Mr. box to present on the amendments and

1:30:09then I'm going to cover the cliffnotes

1:30:11version uh the translation and I I

1:30:14apologize for this length but this is

1:30:15obviously a big deal and there's been a

1:30:17lot of work and I want to make sure

1:30:19>> take a while where we're

1:30:20>> okay so um if if you'll present the

1:30:23amendments and I know that there's a

1:30:26huge packet of them but overall and then

1:30:28I can do the cliff notes version. So, in

1:30:31in terms of specific amendments, it's

1:30:34it's more really broad. It's all of

1:30:37exhibit D was um added to after filing.

1:30:42Um and then that exhibit D, I believe,

1:30:44at the time of planning commission maybe

1:30:45had three to five pages. Um and as I

1:30:49said, now you know, we're up to 24 and

1:30:51we regulate everything from uh noise and

1:30:54setbacks and landscaping. We require a

1:30:57governmental lay on to be a point person

1:31:00for the city to contact my client if

1:31:02there was ever an issue. Uh that person

1:31:04is required on the development agreement

1:31:06to have um authority to act on behalf of

1:31:10the developer. Again, I think the

1:31:12biggest hammer the city has is the idea

1:31:14that we can't get a building permit

1:31:16until the city uh executes a community

1:31:20benefit agreement. So, not until the

1:31:22city believes that something is in place

1:31:24that protects the city, protects the

1:31:27constituents, um, protects

1:31:28infrastructure can we get a permit. So,

1:31:30I I don't know how I don't know how to

1:31:32do it other than exhibit D is reflective

1:31:34of that. I don't know that 24 pages need

1:31:37to be read into the record.

1:31:39>> Can do do you need him to read what's in

1:31:42the agenda or

1:31:44>> No, he doesn't have to read them into

1:31:45the record. Just move the amendments

1:31:48that are attached as exhibit D. Okay,

1:31:51perfect. Thank you. Well, I want to um

1:31:53do a little bit of legal translation if

1:31:55you don't mind. Sure. Um very quickly

1:31:57and and specifically in response to our

1:32:00citizens that um came today that have

1:32:02not necessarily been a part of all of

1:32:04the Oklahoma City uh meetings that have

1:32:07happened. So, one of the items that was

1:32:09mentioned was tied to water. And um

1:32:13while that has been highlighted a lot,

1:32:16that's exactly what the public works

1:32:18director was actually speaking to is

1:32:21that we aren't regulating the system

1:32:24that is used for um cooling the

1:32:27facility. We're regulating what we have

1:32:31a responsibility to regulate in terms of

1:32:33water. And that water is no greater use

1:32:36than what we would expect for 200 to 400

1:32:39homes. In this same land size, we could

1:32:43have up to 4,000 homes. So, from a water

1:32:46planning perspective, and I can promise

1:32:48you that we we approve 100 acre tracks

1:32:51of residential development every single

1:32:54day of the week, that this is not an

1:32:56application that compromises our water

1:32:59from a city planning or a state planning

1:33:02perspective. Now the other piece and uh

1:33:06is is the groundwater and the applicants

1:33:10know it's the very first thing that came

1:33:11out of my mouth. By right the land

1:33:14owners for the property would have the

1:33:16opportunity to um to drill for a

1:33:19specific amount of water that's allowed

1:33:21by the state water resource board just

1:33:23like anyone else that owns property. Um,

1:33:26but being on a groundwater system myself

1:33:29and knowing that many of my neighbors do

1:33:31as well, given the infrastructure that

1:33:34is in that area, that was a non-starter.

1:33:36And so I asked them to give up their

1:33:38right to the water beneath their land.

1:33:42And they said yes. And not only did they

1:33:44say yes, they put it in writing in the

1:33:46ordinance, which is which is essentially

1:33:48the law governing that at this point.

1:33:51So, the water concerns have very clearly

1:33:55been addressed in um in our ordinance,

1:33:58which is the law of the city. The next

1:34:01one is noise. And Miss Berdine, I've

1:34:03gotten to be at a couple of um a couple

1:34:06of Yukon meetings and you came to the

1:34:08the OKC um Yukon borderline meeting in

1:34:12the horse barn and um

1:34:16I think that it's really uh we can get

1:34:19distracted by

1:34:24conversations around sound being present

1:34:28all the time. But the fact of the matter

1:34:30is sound is present all the time and

1:34:34what is allowed under the current zoning

1:34:36by right is 70 ve 70 dB day or night.

1:34:40That's the agricultural zoning decibel

1:34:42level. At the interstate we have

1:34:44recordings from 45 to 85 pretty much

1:34:47247.

1:34:49What we negotiated um in a reduction of

1:34:53rights. So the applicant reduced their

1:34:55right to 75 dB to meet our community

1:34:59concerns and they reduced it to 55 dB

1:35:02which is comparable to other

1:35:05neighborhoods in the area. It is

1:35:07comparable to our residential zoning. It

1:35:10is comparable to my backyard which butts

1:35:13up to a pond and a lot of locusts. And

1:35:16the locusts actually are louder than

1:35:18five dB at night. And I love that you

1:35:21highlighted the concerns of preserving

1:35:24our natural resources from a tree

1:35:27perspective and the mountain biking

1:35:28trails. And that's one of the things

1:35:30that we brought to this same

1:35:31conversation. So, I I love that you're

1:35:33coming in at the end and didn't know all

1:35:35the work that's been done because 25% of

1:35:39the property, 80 acres, more than a

1:35:41million dollars worth of preservation of

1:35:44land is being built in to this pud by

1:35:47ordinance and in the community

1:35:49agreement. We have 25% tree coverage,

1:35:5220% landscaping. It is literally double

1:35:55to three times the the type of

1:35:58landscaping that you see at OU's and o

1:36:01OSU's research park. So when we talk

1:36:03about the West Cornerstone campus, it

1:36:06truly is and has been developed from a

1:36:09mindfulness of what does a technology

1:36:12campus look like in West OKC that

1:36:14preserves the heritage and the values

1:36:16and our appreciation for our natural

1:36:19resources.

1:36:22um infrasound infrasound low frequency

1:36:25sound u Mr.

1:36:27Scott, Charlie Scott came a couple of

1:36:30months ago and presented concerns. He's

1:36:32a uh retiree from the National Park

1:36:35Service and identified concerns around

1:36:38the low frequency sounds, literally the

1:36:40sounds that you can't hear. And we were

1:36:42able to adopt the recommendations that

1:36:44he had regarding DBC's into the

1:36:48ordinance as well. That is unheard of.

1:36:51Um we don't even have an ordinance at

1:36:54the city level for DBC's but when we

1:36:58asked we were able to um assess if the

1:37:02mitigations the landscaping the the um

1:37:06the the walls around um the facility

1:37:10would be um would be able to meet that

1:37:13requirement and they and the applicants

1:37:16agreed to it. So um that's the standard

1:37:18that we get to hold them to.

1:37:21And then um the air and generators. So

1:37:24I've heard a lot of stuff a lot of

1:37:25conversations around pollution of

1:37:28concerns around that. And there are many

1:37:30different types of data centers powered

1:37:33by many different fuels. Just like if

1:37:35you are standing next to an electric

1:37:37vehicle, a gas powered vehicle or a

1:37:40diesel powered vehicle or a diesel

1:37:42tractor. They're all running off fuel.

1:37:45They're all have a different sound

1:37:47signature and they also all have

1:37:49different um impacts on environmental

1:37:51quality. And so we have an the energy

1:37:54that is being used for this site is not

1:37:56natural gas. And Miss Berdine, I expect

1:37:59that the um the sound that you have

1:38:02amplified for the microphone a number of

1:38:04times is actually from a natural gas

1:38:06facility. Um

1:38:08but at the end of the day, we're not

1:38:10regulating that power source either.

1:38:13We're regulating the sound and that

1:38:15enables us to support free market

1:38:17development and innovation at the s same

1:38:19time saying if you can meet what's good

1:38:22in our neighborhood, you can operate in

1:38:24our neighborhood and if you can't, you

1:38:26can't. And what that does is that drives

1:38:29the innovative process across the nation

1:38:31and across the country to continue to

1:38:33improve both on sound signature, energy

1:38:36usage, um,

1:38:40uh, air quality, all of those types of

1:38:42things,

1:38:44rateayer protection and resident costs.

1:38:46When we started this process, the state

1:38:48did not have a rateayer protection um,

1:38:51law in place. The state does. And so

1:38:54while I want this conversation to be a

1:38:56reflection of the work that's been done

1:38:57by this council, um I also want to

1:39:00recognize the work that has been done at

1:39:02the state legislature level in providing

1:39:04those protections. Um what I have seen

1:39:07in looking back 10 years is something

1:39:09that is a risk for us as a city and any

1:39:12city and that is in the in the face of

1:39:15wanting new business development in

1:39:18chasing economic development you can

1:39:21make deals that aren't good for the long

1:39:23run. And I think that um early projects

1:39:28were very heavily incentivized. And I'm

1:39:30not saying that it was bad for those

1:39:31communities. I talked to a lot of

1:39:32communities that had economic incentives

1:39:34in place and they still said that it was

1:39:37working great for them. But what we know

1:39:40is that we sit on energy reserves called

1:39:44natural gas. And that natural gas is

1:39:46coming into its boom of the 1980s in

1:39:49Oklahoma. And we need to be mindful of

1:39:52how we convert that boom into long-term

1:39:55economic generation.

1:39:57And I think that the state has been

1:39:58mindful of that as well. and that it is

1:40:01not done on the back of rateayers.

1:40:03Although if you look around and you look

1:40:05at infrastructure whether it is water

1:40:07infrastructure, sewer infrastructure,

1:40:09grid infrastructure, we are at a recycle

1:40:12point. We are at a place where we are

1:40:15going to have to continue to make

1:40:16investments across the city, across the

1:40:18state to maintain where we are right

1:40:21now.

1:40:22what we are getting in um some of these

1:40:25developments and I know this particular

1:40:27application is actually carrying the

1:40:29cost of the substation rebuild that you

1:40:32and I were going to be carrying in our

1:40:35bills if we didn't have a partner come

1:40:38along that says hey we need to use it

1:40:40too and we'll pay for the upgrade we'll

1:40:44pay for the renewed um infrastructure to

1:40:46create the sustainability that we need

1:40:49long term

1:40:52um landscaping, nature, and design. Um I

1:40:55think I hit on that already with the 25%

1:40:57landscaping, the 20% tree canopy at

1:41:00maturity. Um

1:41:03one other thing, at one point, our

1:41:05community members had really wanted to

1:41:06have just a brick wall or a stone wall

1:41:10because that reflects something that

1:41:12will last. It's not a chain link fence.

1:41:14It's something that signifies this is a

1:41:17set aside facility that can be used for

1:41:20more than housing computers. So that in

1:41:2310 years if we don't need that

1:41:25architecture for some reason, we have a

1:41:28school campus ready to operate that is

1:41:30beautiful and ready to work in. We have

1:41:32a corporate headquarters that is ready

1:41:34to work in. And so instead of going the

1:41:37full stone route, which we were really

1:41:39on for quite a few months, um what we've

1:41:42negotiated is three foot three foot um

1:41:46masonry pillars that are considered

1:41:48executive style whenever they're that

1:41:50wide with um decorative raw iron that

1:41:53provides both a security function as

1:41:55well as an aesthetic function. And then

1:41:57increased landscaping so that it

1:41:59preserved the naturecape instead of

1:42:01creating a a wall around the campus.

1:42:05creating a an integrated environment.

1:42:07And then outside of that, we will

1:42:09actually have uh I believe five- foot

1:42:13sidewalks um that are viable from a

1:42:16long-term perspective. I doubt that we

1:42:18will have people walking them right out

1:42:19of the gate because there aren't houses,

1:42:22right? Well, there are a few, but um

1:42:25less than 10 that would be using it

1:42:27right out of the gate. But that is um a

1:42:30mindfulness of something that can be a

1:42:31resource in the future.

1:42:34schools and workforce. Okay, so you guys

1:42:36have gotten to hear me um on the

1:42:38horseshoe oppose a number of

1:42:41developments that um I was the odd man

1:42:44out and

1:42:47you also know that I have worked on

1:42:48developing a framework for how I

1:42:50evaluate smart development in W 3. And

1:42:53while that hasn't been adopted by all of

1:42:55us, um I'm hoping that we're able to

1:42:57continue to learn together around what

1:42:59that looks like. And for me,

1:43:01understanding where our schools are, um

1:43:04how our ecosystem is set up for the

1:43:06future generations of our kids, our

1:43:09teachers is important. And I have 10

1:43:12different school districts in W three,

1:43:13not 10 different Oklahoma City schools,

1:43:1510 different school districts in W three

1:43:18that require a mindfulness of how we

1:43:21approve development. what that means

1:43:23fiscally from from a fiscal impact

1:43:25perspective as well as a student

1:43:27development perspective teacher staffing

1:43:30student ratios

1:43:32um [clears throat] and ultimately the

1:43:33quality of education so while um this

1:43:37same property developed as a residential

1:43:39area if that happened that would

1:43:43according to Mr. Is it Z? That would be

1:43:44the equivalent of 4,000. I remember I

1:43:47noted that when you mentioned it to me.

1:43:48I was like, "Oh gosh, 4,000 people would

1:43:51literally quadruple the size of the

1:43:53whole Banner school system right now.

1:43:56That kind of development would be um

1:43:59would be backbreaking at that um at that

1:44:02speed. And it literally is the next area

1:44:04of development. So the idea of a

1:44:07facility that brings 300 people is

1:44:11maintaining the infrastructure around it

1:44:13as well as creating the economic base

1:44:16that will enable quality investment in

1:44:19all of the school districts in our area.

1:44:22That is a powerful mover. That is a

1:44:24gamecher

1:44:27from a traffic and road impacts

1:44:28perspective. Um you highlighted that we

1:44:31negotiated all of the um or the roads in

1:44:35the surrounding area that will be used

1:44:37for construction traffic will be

1:44:39maintained and improved by the

1:44:41applicant. And then the last but not

1:44:45least

1:44:46is continuing to work with the community

1:44:49through community benefit agreement that

1:44:51enables us to do smart development

1:44:54comprehensive plan alignment with

1:44:57Oklahoma City, Oklahoma and the

1:44:59industries that we know have a

1:45:00multiplicative impact from a long-term

1:45:03sustainability perspective. investing in

1:45:05our schools so that we have the best

1:45:07schools, the best teachers and the best

1:45:09amenities to prepare our students,

1:45:11prepare our children um to lead with

1:45:14intention, to lead with innovation and

1:45:18um that has been a lot of work. So,

1:45:22thank you guys for giving me the

1:45:23opportunity to share that process. So

1:45:27often we are in the mode of okay agreed

1:45:31we've got this we've we've done our due

1:45:33diligence but this is such a big deal.

1:45:35Um it is a once in a century development

1:45:38in W 3 in West OKC and I so appreciate

1:45:43that every time I've asked you haven't

1:45:45said you're crazy.

1:45:49um you've listened, you've listened and

1:45:50you've asked curious questions and there

1:45:52have been items like the like the

1:45:55masonry wall that we were not able to

1:45:57work around um but that we were able to

1:45:59get to a very constructive solution. The

1:46:01decibel levels you guys have met us

1:46:04every single step of the way so that we

1:46:06could be um have a good development that

1:46:09had long-term value and that would not

1:46:11disrupt or reduce the quality of life

1:46:13for our residents. I do want to

1:46:15highlight one last thing and that is

1:46:18property values. So, I've heard that

1:46:20said a lot of um people worried about

1:46:23their property values being reduced. One

1:46:25of our neighbors that literally lives

1:46:27less than a half a mile from the

1:46:29property is a county assessor. And he he

1:46:32said that same thing to me and I said,

1:46:33"Steve, go do the research. Find me the

1:46:37information. Let me know what you find."

1:46:39And what he found is in developments

1:46:41that are done like this, it's not a

1:46:43property devaluer, it's a property

1:46:46valuer. And that is what our community

1:46:50has found. And that doesn't mean that

1:46:52people want a building in our backyard

1:46:54at all. Frankly, I know the answer to

1:46:57that is no. But we do understand that

1:47:02each of us has our own property and we

1:47:04have the um the rights that go with that

1:47:07and we respect the centennial farmers

1:47:10that have um have made the tough

1:47:13decision to sell and and we also

1:47:16appreciate um having the opportunity to

1:47:18work with a development that will help

1:47:22West OKC help OKC develop with

1:47:25intention.

1:47:29Is there any other discussion? Open the

1:47:31floor.

1:47:37>> Well, you know, I think I'd share a

1:47:38little bit of big picture perspective.

1:47:40[clears throat]

1:47:40As everyone up here knows, we initiated

1:47:45a moratorum

1:47:47earlier um this year, right? Yeah, it's

1:47:51all a blur. And um this however

1:47:55application was filed before that

1:47:57moratorum took effect. Um and so that's

1:48:01why it sort of stands alone as one that

1:48:03we are currently considering. I think if

1:48:06you'd have told almost anyone in

1:48:09Oklahoma City or even in the country

1:48:11that we would have this in front of us

1:48:12today and very minimal opposition. um

1:48:17they'd be a little surprised and I think

1:48:18that is a testament to all the work

1:48:19you've put in Councilwoman Avers.

1:48:22I do not necessarily I I am skeptical

1:48:25that that is replicable

1:48:27across the city or moving forward. So I

1:48:29think it is important for people to

1:48:30understand um if this is approved today

1:48:34I I do not think that means that

1:48:36Oklahoma City is open for business for

1:48:37data centers. Um, I think this is a very

1:48:40unique situation that obviously took, as

1:48:43you have said, a year's worth of work.

1:48:45Um, and had a council person that that

1:48:48really wanted to to move forward with it

1:48:50and work through the problems. Um, I

1:48:53have asked the city manager in fact to

1:48:56uh bring forward an extension of our

1:48:58moratorum for another six months. Um,

1:49:00because it is slated currently to expire

1:49:03at the end of 2026. And I think it um I

1:49:05think we can learn maybe some things

1:49:07from this experience. Um and we need to

1:49:10continue to work on our framework um

1:49:14which would mean that this is the only

1:49:15thing that we would have in front of us

1:49:17um uh for the next few months.

1:49:21I think that people need to know that

1:49:23again this does not mean if this pro is

1:49:27approved today with the council member's

1:49:29support, it is only because the council

1:49:31member has worked through the the issues

1:49:32with the neighbors um and has really

1:49:36kind of uh methodically addressed every

1:49:39single concern that people typically

1:49:40bring forward um for data centers. I

1:49:43don't what people vote, how people vote

1:49:46today, I don't think should be

1:49:47interpreted as how they might vote on a

1:49:50future application. I think it's going

1:49:51to be case by case and I do think there

1:49:53is a point where um and it may be the

1:49:55second one where the city simply says we

1:49:58can't have any more. Um so I think

1:50:00people need to know that going in.

1:50:02That's kind of the bigger picture

1:50:03perspective. Zoning cases are uniquely

1:50:06immune to the big picture. they tend to

1:50:07be just about what matters to the people

1:50:09who live literally a few hundred feet um

1:50:12around the parcel. This obviously could

1:50:15be interpreted to have fartherreaching

1:50:16ramifications and I think what I would

1:50:18say is there won't be with an extension

1:50:20of the moratorium which we'll bring

1:50:21forward in the weeks ahead there won't

1:50:23be anything else like this coming soon

1:50:25and um and I think it's a very unique

1:50:28scenario that again is a is a testament

1:50:30to all the work you've put in here. Um,

1:50:32so I I think this is kind of a

1:50:34standalone vote that should not send a

1:50:36signal um that Oklahoma City is open for

1:50:38this type of project. It it merely is a

1:50:41reflection of a very unique set of

1:50:43circumstances and a lot of hard work

1:50:45that the parties put in here.

1:50:47>> And I am so glad that you brought that

1:50:49up because um as well many of you may or

1:50:52may not know, but we do have multiple

1:50:54applications in different areas. And I

1:50:57have asked these same questions that I

1:50:59asked of this applicant. I asked them a

1:51:01lot faster because we'd figured stuff

1:51:04out along the way. And for applicants

1:51:07that said, "Nope, we're not willing to

1:51:08do that. Nope, we're not willing to do

1:51:10that." I said, "Okay, well, these are

1:51:12our standards." And so, um, e even

1:51:15within Word three, I think that that's a

1:51:17conversation that I've already been

1:51:19having is, hey, it's got to make sense

1:51:21in the area. It's got to be something

1:51:23that is a a value ad and that uh that

1:51:27that we've been able to work with the

1:51:29community and if you know, we have

1:51:31applicants in any area. I don't I don't

1:51:33care what the industry is. If they're

1:51:35not willing to work with the community,

1:51:36that's something that is a red flag for

1:51:38me.

1:51:40[clears throat]

1:51:42>> I have a couple of questions I'd like to

1:51:44discuss. One is economic impact

1:51:47>> is what

1:51:47>> the economic impact proposed impact that

1:51:50we think this facility provide

1:51:53>> not only for us but the uh school

1:51:55district as well. I think would be

1:51:57interesting.

1:52:06Yes. Um so you know significant impact

1:52:09uh across the millillage base on this

1:52:11project as we've discussed you know no

1:52:13incentive we knew that coming into the

1:52:15door. Um so with franchise fees, you

1:52:19know, um advalorum revenues,

1:52:22uh sales tax, which is also specifically

1:52:25included in a in our uh PUD. Um you

1:52:29know, right now we're estimating 20 $30

1:52:32million a year to Oklahoma City.

1:52:36>> What is what do we think that is for the

1:52:38uh school district out there? Well, in

1:52:40the school district, it's I mean, one of

1:52:42the things we're going to propose if

1:52:43this is approved is the creation of a

1:52:45tiff district in the area because it's

1:52:49billions of dollars to the school

1:52:51district through advalorum um taxes over

1:52:53the years and we think it's an amount of

1:52:55money given the size of Banner School

1:52:57that they won't be able to spend and we

1:53:00think that it would be better served to

1:53:02create a tiff district to be able to

1:53:04find a way for that money to come back

1:53:06to the city of Oklahoma City. So it it's

1:53:08it's an absurd number because of the

1:53:10advorum to the school district because

1:53:12they are a smaller district. Yeah. Uh

1:53:14it's billions of dollars.

1:53:16>> Awesome. Thank you. And then uh how is

1:53:19this tied to the Yukon deal?

1:53:22>> If the Yukon deal happens, if it Yukon

1:53:25deal doesn't end up happening,

1:53:27>> doesn't stop this.

1:53:28>> No impact.

1:53:28>> Correct.

1:53:29>> Okay.

1:53:31And then when do we expect the CBA

1:53:35uh to actually come back before the

1:53:38city?

1:53:39>> Uh our commitment is if this is

1:53:41approved, we'll start working uh

1:53:42immediately. Again, we can't the the PUD

1:53:46gives us almost like a temporary

1:53:47entitlement, but we can't actually pull

1:53:49permits or do anything in furtherance of

1:53:51it until that CBA is in place. And so if

1:53:53this were to be approved, my guess is my

1:53:56team would assemble and start working

1:53:57with the the city and whoever the city

1:53:59manager directed us to work with.

1:54:00Perhaps it's the alliance uh to move

1:54:02forward as quickly as the city can and

1:54:04we can uh to find uh something to

1:54:06produce for city council consideration.

1:54:08>> So we think it' be another year at

1:54:10least, right? So

1:54:12>> I don't know that we've got a timeline

1:54:13on that. I think you're right that I

1:54:15think we can work through several things

1:54:16quickly, but I do think it's going to

1:54:18take some time.

1:54:19>> Okay, great.

1:54:20>> We expect it'll take time.

1:54:22Okay.

1:54:23>> And hopefully, you know, my client has

1:54:25shown a willingness to to spend the time

1:54:26necessary to find an acceptable um

1:54:29agreement between the parties.

1:54:30>> Honestly, a significant part of the CBA

1:54:32was the intent that we'd be working and

1:54:34it says it in the uh document and the

1:54:37amendments was we'd work with the

1:54:39developer as well as the enduser has to

1:54:41be a party to the agreement with us. So

1:54:43all the commitments on water usage and

1:54:45all these other things are in that

1:54:47document would be included as well as

1:54:49any other benefits um that the council

1:54:51wants us to pursue.

1:54:52>> Yeah.

1:54:53>> Great.

1:54:54>> Just real quickly to wrap it up, I just

1:54:57want to thank Councilwoman Avers for all

1:54:59of the tremendous tremendous work she

1:55:02has done on this. Pretty amazing. I mean

1:55:05even when she would discuss it with me,

1:55:07I'd be like, "Oh my gosh, you're going

1:55:09so deep on this thing." I do feel like I

1:55:11got a degree in energy,

1:55:14>> air conditioning.

1:55:15>> Yeah, you've done I mean just fantastic

1:55:18absolutely fantastic work in this thing.

1:55:21But I will absolutely agree with you too

1:55:23that you know if this one passes uh it

1:55:27passes, but that certainly doesn't clear

1:55:30for other spaces around our city. So I

1:55:34just wanted to make sure and bring some

1:55:35clarity to that, too. So, thank you very

1:55:38much for all you've done. It's amazing.

1:55:43>> A follow-up question on the tax

1:55:46generated.

1:55:48Can you help me understand and I'm

1:55:50guessing it's maybe around electricity

1:55:52like what what is the sales tax

1:55:55generated off of a facility like this?

1:55:57>> Yeah, that's a great question. So,

1:55:59there's there's number of parts here.

1:56:01Um, we're obviously inside the city

1:56:02limit. So there's going to be an initial

1:56:04investment of about a billion dollars a

1:56:06building. Um and then that's going to

1:56:08obviously create um at Valeran revenues,

1:56:11but there's also franchise fees. And so

1:56:13you get a franchise fee both on the sale

1:56:16of energy, but you also get the

1:56:18franchise fee on the sale of water and

1:56:21the the return of our sewage. So sale

1:56:24sewer and water and electric franchise

1:56:26fees coupled with the uh the direct

1:56:30capital investment in the ad valerum.

1:56:31What's interesting here, though, is as

1:56:33we're all aware, these are these are

1:56:34servers, right? And they have chips, and

1:56:36your chips don't last forever. And so,

1:56:38if we have a 15-year contract with OG&,

1:56:41depending on the the chips that we use

1:56:43in the technology selections, these

1:56:45could depreciate out and be and

1:56:47completely reach their useful life in

1:56:50four to five years, meaning there'd be

1:56:52another significant reinvestment in the

1:56:54facility on a cyclical basis. Let's call

1:56:57it five years to be conservative. So

1:56:59there's another reinvestment in the

1:57:00facility. On top of that, you're having

1:57:03[clears throat]

1:57:04the five to six year construction

1:57:07project. We estimate between um500 a,000

1:57:11to 1500 people on site uh per day on

1:57:14average. And of course, we're cycling

1:57:15them in different times and not all on

1:57:17site at the same time. There's different

1:57:18shifts. Um but there's a huge economic

1:57:21impact to the construction cycle. And

1:57:24then of course once we go um fully

1:57:26operational certificate of occupancy we

1:57:28create permanent jobs and we're creating

1:57:31between 30 and 40 permanent jobs per

1:57:33building. Um in OKC we're uh specked out

1:57:37between eight and nine buildings.

1:57:39>> And so can you just help me clarify? So

1:57:42is are you saying the economic

1:57:43[clears throat] impact is 20 to30

1:57:45million a year or you're saying that's

1:57:47how much sales tax the city would

1:57:49receive? That's the combined uh ad

1:57:52valerum revenues with the franchise fee.

1:57:54Correct.

1:57:55>> Correct.

1:57:55>> So,

1:57:56>> so point of sales, ad valerum and

1:57:59franchise fee combined $30 million a

1:58:02year.

1:58:02>> We we had estimated working with the

1:58:04team with OG& Alliance worked with us.

1:58:07We had estimated when it's fully built

1:58:09out on the city side would be $10

1:58:12million a year in uh sales tax and $7

1:58:16million a year in franchise fee. We

1:58:18believe it's a conservative estimate,

1:58:20but that's when it's all built out.

1:58:22>> So, because by and maybe I'm doing my

1:58:24math wrong. I'm I would math was not my

1:58:27favorite subject. Um, but that I'm

1:58:30getting So, if even if it's $10 million

1:58:32a year, that's like $6 billion

1:58:35that you're spending to generate about

1:58:374% which was the our portion of the

1:58:40sales tax. Correct. it and it's the sale

1:58:42and really I think all we've estimated

1:58:44on this one if I'm not mistaken is the

1:58:47per is on the sale of electricity.

1:58:50We may have we may have gas in there as

1:58:52well but it's just off of those

1:58:54utilities. It's not any it's not trying

1:58:56to project any other uh direct

1:58:59>> that sounds like a large number to me.

1:59:01You're like sp planning to spend $6

1:59:03billion a year on electricity.

1:59:06>> Excuse me.

1:59:08my my my so Oklahoma City's like

1:59:10percentage of our sales tax rate is

1:59:12about I'm just going to say 4% to make

1:59:14it as straightforward as possible even

1:59:16though I know it's a little bit more

1:59:18than that. Um

1:59:20so if if we're generating about $10

1:59:23million worth of sales tax off of

1:59:25electricity,

1:59:27my math says that's about $6 billion a

1:59:29year that you're spending to generate

1:59:31that amount sales tax. is that I'm again

1:59:34my math might be incorrect but I just

1:59:36want to clarify because I want to

1:59:38understand better.

1:59:40>> So

1:59:42the quick math here is we're spending

1:59:43about $250 million a year on energy

1:59:48purchases in order to generate the

1:59:49franchise fee that we're projecting.

1:59:56>> Okay. I think I did my math wrong then.

1:59:58Thank you. I appreciate it. Yep.

1:59:59>> And uh council member, we're we're here

2:00:03frequently and we've reached out a

2:00:05couple times for for a meeting, but we

2:00:07would love the opportunity to sit down

2:00:08with you and run through some of the

2:00:10projections. Um and we can show you the

2:00:12conservative case and the and the the

2:00:14bullish case, and we would relish the

2:00:16opportunity to dig into the details.

2:00:23>> Um I don't think I have any questions

2:00:25for you all, but I do have some

2:00:27comments. Um, and it involves sharing my

2:00:30screen, which I would like to do and for

2:00:33people at home to see this and people in

2:00:35the gallery. This was in from an article

2:00:38in the New York Times the last couple

2:00:40days. And the question, the headline

2:00:42from the article was, "Can you determine

2:00:46if this image is AI generated?" I'll

2:00:51give you a second.

2:00:53Can you determine if this image is AI

2:00:57generated?

2:01:02Now, if you start honing in here, you'll

2:01:05notice that the name tag for the FedEx

2:01:09employee is a black man. Those hands

2:01:13don't look. So that's first thing you

2:01:14can notice, but that involves you having

2:01:16to really hone in there under LG here on

2:01:20the side where it says lifeia card. The

2:01:24slogan for LG is life's something. It's

2:01:27like I don't know, life's a goal. I have

2:01:29no life's good, right?

2:01:32The AI did not understand how to

2:01:35translate that. So it changed it into

2:01:37this weird word there.

2:01:40Also, when you feed into AI, which I've

2:01:43never done, I don't use it. Um, I need

2:01:46to create a FedEx type image. It will

2:01:49kind of front and center the way you see

2:01:50FedEx office right here.

2:01:53Then, if you look over to the tile

2:01:56floor, you'll notice that perspective

2:01:58wise, the perspective is off. like it

2:02:01cannot actually create the lines in a

2:02:04way that the Italian Renaissance uh

2:02:08artist uh first really uh gives us the

2:02:11notion of perspective.

2:02:14[snorts] This is not correct.

2:02:19As a college English teacher,

2:02:23welcome to the world of having to

2:02:25[music] read an essay and determine

2:02:28whether or not that essay the student

2:02:32used artificial intelligence to generate

2:02:35it. If you found it difficult to

2:02:37determine whether or not the image on

2:02:39your screen right now is real,

2:02:43you should. And we are putting in front

2:02:46of our teachers the task

2:02:49of determining whether the essays their

2:02:52eighth graders are writing, whether

2:02:54their college entrance essays the senior

2:02:57is writing was something that a robot

2:03:00generated

2:03:02rather than a human being. That is the

2:03:04task in front of your teachers. You're

2:03:06already underpaid teachers in the state

2:03:09of Oklahoma. That is what's happening.

2:03:11We can take this down.

2:03:17>> [clears throat]

2:03:22>> There is data out there right now that

2:03:24says that 73%

2:03:28of students,

2:03:31young adults under the age of 30, and

2:03:34this includes teenagers, are right now

2:03:36living through an anxiety

2:03:39related to AI with the belief that AI

2:03:43threatens their jobs.

2:03:46These are teenagers who are going to be

2:03:48going into career techs or universities,

2:03:52community [clears throat] colleges, and

2:03:54they are already worried that if they do

2:03:56what we as their parents, as adults are

2:03:59asking them to do, which is work hard,

2:04:01study hard, go to higher education,

2:04:05you will have a skill so that you can

2:04:07take care of yourself and be

2:04:08self-sufficient. Our youth right now,

2:04:1173% of them are living in existential

2:04:15fear of whether or not that will be true

2:04:17for them in terms of their jobs. By the

2:04:19way, 71% of all adults feel that way in

2:04:22terms of jobs. You might go, "Well, that

2:04:25sounds like paranoia."

2:04:28It would be worth everyone's time to

2:04:30watch a PBS documentary called Two

2:04:35American Families. Google it.

2:04:39They PBS spends 30 years with two

2:04:44families since the early 1990s and

2:04:47follows them up until the early 2020s.

2:04:52The fathers, the husbands, the gentlemen

2:04:54in each of those families

2:04:57lost their jobs not because they weren't

2:04:59hard workers. They lost their jobs

2:05:02because the Midwestern cities where they

2:05:05lived in the early 1990s when I was

2:05:08starting middle school.

2:05:11Politicians at the state and federal and

2:05:14local levels took their jobs and sent

2:05:16them to Mexico, sent them to China, sent

2:05:19them to Bangladesh, sent them to

2:05:21countries that do not have even the

2:05:23minimum wage protections that this

2:05:25country has do not have the health care

2:05:29benefits that come with having a

2:05:31full-time job in this country. And so

2:05:34then those workers in that documentary

2:05:37found themselves going to apply for jobs

2:05:40at grocery stores at KFC only to be told

2:05:44by the manager of that store they were

2:05:48overqualified. They were overqualified

2:05:51for a minimum wage job with no benefits.

2:05:55One father slips into alcoholism.

2:05:58His fairy tale, his words, his fairy

2:06:00tale marriage to his high school

2:06:02sweetheart falls apart. He becomes

2:06:04estranged from his children.

2:06:07He is in that documentary in present day

2:06:11in a better place, but not economically.

2:06:14He's in a better place because he

2:06:15finally has a relationship with his

2:06:17children.

2:06:19This country starting when I was a

2:06:21teenager made a fouian bargain where it

2:06:25outsourced our good paying jobs and

2:06:28places like General Motors closed. We

2:06:31sent these jobs with the benefits after

2:06:34people fulfilled their promise uh their

2:06:36end of the bargain with the American

2:06:38dream. We sent their jobs overseas and

2:06:41we never retrained them horizontally for

2:06:44new skills. We have not done that. And

2:06:46for eight years on the city council, I

2:06:48have all but begged this council to

2:06:50actually go into our neighborhoods and

2:06:53to connect our families to Oklahoma's

2:06:57promise to the free tuition at OOT trip

2:07:01to the career tech all across the metro

2:07:05area. All but begged only to be told too

2:07:10often that what I am asking for is quote

2:07:12utopia.

2:07:14It is not. It is better. And this is a

2:07:17place where right now your reading

2:07:20scores for fourth and eighth graders are

2:07:23barely 24%.

2:07:27If a child, our children cannot read

2:07:33well at the fundamental level, there is

2:07:36no way on God's green earth that they

2:07:38have media literacy to be able to

2:07:40determine when a photo is real. And that

2:07:44has a special consequence when right now

2:07:47in American politics in the midterm

2:07:50election whereas in 2024 $50,000

2:07:54was spent on AI generated ads right now

2:07:58$137

2:08:00million spent on AI generated ads. If

2:08:05you're an everyday person working two or

2:08:07three jobs just to make ends meet for

2:08:10yourself or your family,

2:08:12you might not have the time to slow down

2:08:15to ask whether the ad you're seeing

2:08:17during a thunder game is real.

2:08:22Particularly when we have not prepared

2:08:23our students for critical thinking

2:08:26skills, for media literacy skills, let

2:08:28alone literacy skills. I applaud

2:08:31Councilwoman Avers for the months you

2:08:35have spent making sure that something

2:08:38called a community benefits agreement

2:08:40exists.

2:08:42The problem is not your work ethic. The

2:08:46problem is not your heart. The problem

2:08:49is the end use of this this proposal.

2:08:55That's the problem. We I heard hear we

2:08:58all do that there's this idea that if we

2:09:01don't beat China with AI we will lose. I

2:09:05believe it was the President Ronald

2:09:06Reagan who understood that it was time

2:09:08to sit down with someone when it came to

2:09:11nukes to actually slow down that arms

2:09:13race. Right now you have something like

2:09:18hugging face. You have these different

2:09:21little AI bots running around who are

2:09:24becoming so independent that they are in

2:09:27able to hack into

2:09:30systems which means our critical

2:09:32infrastructure is in danger which means

2:09:35our defense systems are in danger. This

2:09:38is the time at the federal level at the

2:09:41federal level for regulation

2:09:45global regulation. This needs to be a

2:09:48sitdown every bit as it was in the 1980s

2:09:51when a Republican president sat with

2:09:54someone at the head of the Communist

2:09:56Party and figured out how to slow down

2:09:58nukes. If those two can do it,

2:10:01we can't do that today. So, until there

2:10:04are federal regulations and global

2:10:07agreements on how to protect

2:10:10our actual safety, I can't imagine

2:10:13saying yes to this. And that is breaking

2:10:17my heart in so far as I know how hard

2:10:19you worked to make sure you mitigated

2:10:21the harm done to this community. I think

2:10:23to the mayor's comment though, the big

2:10:25picture here is AI represents a

2:10:30dystopian threat to our children, our

2:10:34families, our infrastructure, our way of

2:10:36life. And there is no reason we should

2:10:38approve it. We shouldn't approve it.

2:10:40This is not how we should go. Instead,

2:10:43we should be taking the same amount of

2:10:46energy and work that Councilwoman Avers

2:10:48has put into this community benefits

2:10:50agreement, the same sort of work that

2:10:52Councilman Stone, myself, mayor, and

2:10:54residents put into the community bene

2:10:57excuse me, the community benefits

2:10:58agreement for the Thunder. We should

2:10:59bring that sense of urgency back to this

2:11:02council to talk about how do we connect

2:11:05the children in Oklahoma City's worst

2:11:08performing schools, underserved

2:11:10neighborhoods to our career techs, to

2:11:12our community colleges and have true

2:11:14economic development benefits.

2:11:18That's what we should be doing. And we

2:11:20have a bond staring us in our face with

2:11:22money to do that. And it just takes a

2:11:25little bit of elbow grease and

2:11:26imagination to do it. But I'm here to

2:11:28tell you when 71% of your students in

2:11:33this country [music]

2:11:34are saying they are living in mortal

2:11:36fear of jobs not being there and all you

2:11:39have to do is go back to the 1990s and

2:11:4280s to see the living proof of the

2:11:44example of when we did this to them

2:11:45before.

2:11:47There's no way I would support this. You

2:11:49couldn't pay me money to support this.

2:11:52And to conclude, this is the equivalent

2:11:55of when we started letting Walmart come

2:11:58in and undo the mom and pop grocery

2:12:02stores on our main streets.

2:12:05This is the equivalent of that. That was

2:12:06the same foustian bargain where you

2:12:08could go buy an LG TV for cheap because

2:12:11it was made for cheap by people who were

2:12:14underpaid.

2:12:16We have to start acting locally,

2:12:18thinking globally, and remembering

2:12:20what's at stake. And that is our

2:12:22children's education so that they can

2:12:24grow up in good neighborhoods, age in

2:12:26place with dignity. That is what we

2:12:29should be thinking about. This ain't

2:12:31personal to you all. I am telling you

2:12:32this is not the model though.

2:12:35We are asking 82 year olds like my

2:12:37mother to learn new phrases like

2:12:39language learning models and recursive

2:12:42and then saying let's approve whole

2:12:45zoning cases and economic incentives,

2:12:47tax increment finance. when this

2:12:49technology and its language is moving

2:12:51faster than the speed of light, we have

2:12:53not slowed down to study it. So that's

2:12:56why I will not be approving this. And

2:12:57again, this is no shade. I I commend

2:12:59you. I really do. That's impressive

2:13:01work. But bigger picture,

2:13:03>> I think that there's a little bit of um

2:13:08little bit of confusion around some of

2:13:10the different aspects of what a data

2:13:12center is and what the service is to our

2:13:13country beyond. And I have the same

2:13:15concerns of I don't want my kids to

2:13:16learn how to write with AI. I want them

2:13:18to learn how to write and then I want

2:13:20them to be able to use any tool that

2:13:22they have available to them to do the

2:13:24very best job that they can and that's a

2:13:26refinement process. Um but whenever you

2:13:30look at digital infrastructure as you

2:13:31look at energy infrastructure, water in

2:13:34infrastructure and sewer infrastructure,

2:13:36we're at a change in our country right

2:13:38now of moving from what was AOL dialup.

2:13:41I think that we're both old enough to

2:13:43remember what it was like when you had

2:13:45to do a homework assignment and you had

2:13:47to wait for the call sign, you know, to

2:13:49get on.

2:13:51Um, and what the difference was when you

2:13:53went from that to broadband and and

2:13:55that's the type of things that we can't

2:13:57see but that we can experience that

2:13:59digital infrastructure changes the speed

2:14:02of communication. It also changes the

2:14:05processing power of our country. And

2:14:07what I mean by that is not AI generated

2:14:09images. I'm talking about if you have 25

2:14:12things open up on your computer and

2:14:14you're crashing your computer because

2:14:16you're trying to work on too many things

2:14:17at once or you're getting that

2:14:19hourglass, you know, or the blue circle

2:14:22because you are asking more of the

2:14:25system than it has the capability to

2:14:27give. And that's really what digital

2:14:30infrastructure is about. It's not about

2:14:32making it so that you can do an AI image

2:14:35or you can do AI papers. Those are

2:14:37definitely things that a tool can be

2:14:39used for just like AOL dialup could have

2:14:42been used for a homework assignment

2:14:44could not have been used to watch a

2:14:46movie. Um but it but those those it's

2:14:49it's a tool and as a country we have a

2:14:53need for both processing capability of

2:14:55information and transmission of that

2:14:57information and we've had that

2:14:59capability for more than 20 years. as we

2:15:02increase our use of it for many

2:15:04different uses like um AI image

2:15:08generation

2:15:09that need is still there and it's needed

2:15:11for our banking industry our medical

2:15:13industry our energy industry the defense

2:15:17of our systems because slowmoving

2:15:19information is actually vulnerable

2:15:21information you want it to be fast you

2:15:23want it to be protected just like

2:15:25whenever I put in my credit card number

2:15:28that I want it to be secure those are

2:15:31the typ of things that digital

2:15:32infrastructure supports that are not fun

2:15:35to talk about and that we take for

2:15:36granted just in the same way that we get

2:15:38to turn on our water and flush our

2:15:40toilets. Um that is is really driving

2:15:45the development across the country and

2:15:47the technological infrastructure. Um,

2:15:49and so I totally agree with you from an

2:15:52education perspective and concerns

2:15:54around how we communicate. And I would

2:15:57say as adults, if if 73% of our

2:16:00teenagers are afraid of the future,

2:16:02we're doing something wrong. And we need

2:16:04to be creating and communicating the

2:16:07path that they have in front of them.

2:16:09And it is a great future that we live

2:16:12in. We are not in a place of losing

2:16:14every job and it being outsourced to to

2:16:17other countries. We're in a position of

2:16:19our jobs are changing just like in the

2:16:21industrial revolution, just like when

2:16:23the printing press was made and we need

2:16:25to be teaching our children the value

2:16:28that they bring to the table and what

2:16:30they can learn and how they can help the

2:16:32next generation. And I think that is a

2:16:34burden that all of us carry. That's

2:16:36completely separate from zoning. Sorry

2:16:38guys, he took me there and I couldn't

2:16:40resist. [laughter] If I could redirect

2:16:42this back before we because we could

2:16:44debate AI all day, you know, we we

2:16:46really are I mean how people make their

2:16:48decisions on this horseshoe is between

2:16:50them and their constituents, but I would

2:16:51say that generally and historically we

2:16:54make decisions based on the land use

2:16:55effect uh to the neighbors and the

2:16:58community at large.

2:16:59>> Um again there's you have every each of

2:17:01you has every right to make the

2:17:02arguments you just made. I would say

2:17:04that generally and historically myself

2:17:06and probably most people up here uh

2:17:08simply look at the land use consequences

2:17:10and not the the use and its merits um to

2:17:15society at large or whether we think

2:17:16there's already too many Italian

2:17:18restaurants in town or whatever, you

2:17:20know, like like whatever people bring to

2:17:22us. We look at things like water usage

2:17:25or sound or traffic. We do not

2:17:28historically look at those other things.

2:17:29Again, you can ultimately use whatever

2:17:31criteria you want, but I'm just saying

2:17:33that's the our charge under the law, and

2:17:35that's certainly the the um prism

2:17:37through which I view this and any other.

2:17:40>> Thank you, sir.

2:17:40>> If it helps using your water and all of

2:17:43these resources to generate everything,

2:17:46the dystopia I just described is exactly

2:17:48why I'll be voting now.

2:17:50>> Sure. So,

2:17:52>> um so I would like to make a motion to

2:17:55approve the amendments as presented.

2:17:57>> Okay. So, actually we got a lot of

2:17:58votes.

2:17:59>> Oh gosh.

2:18:00>> Okay. So, there are are there any

2:18:01additional amendments to what is already

2:18:03on the agenda? We just approve amendment

2:18:05one list on the vote on what's on the

2:18:06>> staff report encapsulates all of the

2:18:08changes were made.

2:18:11>> Okay. So, first up then would be item 11

2:18:16B1. An amendment to the master design

2:18:18statement for item B2.

2:18:24>> So, motion to Okay, got it.

2:18:28So, this is just an emotion on an

2:18:30amendment, not not the underlying

2:18:33approval.

2:18:36We have a motion in a second. Cast your

2:18:37votes.

2:18:43Passes 8 to what? Now, we're on

2:18:46>> We don't Just so you know, we don't see

2:18:48any of that.

2:18:51>> Okay. Well, it passed 8 to one.

2:18:52>> Okay.

2:18:53>> I'll call it out. Okay. Now this will be

2:18:56B2.

2:18:58This is the actual ordinance. This is to

2:19:01be specific. This is reszoning 3025

2:19:03North Frisco Road and PUD 1637 to PUD

2:19:0621105.

2:19:10[snorts]

2:19:10>> Motion to approve.

2:19:18>> We have a motion and a second. Cast your

2:19:21votes.

2:19:26That passes six to three. Now we're on

2:19:29item C. C1 specifically. This is the

2:19:33amendment to the master design statement

2:19:36[snorts] for item C2.

2:19:43>> Motion.

2:19:44>> We have a motion and a second.

2:19:47cast your votes on the amendment

2:19:51that passes 8 to one. And then finally,

2:19:55item C2 is the actual ordinance. This is

2:19:57specifically reszoning 13921 Northwest

2:20:0023rd from double A and PUD 1637 to PUD

2:20:042124.

2:20:10Have a motion and a second.

2:20:13Cast [snorts] your votes.

2:20:19That passes six to three.

2:20:20>> Thank you.

2:20:21>> Thank you. All right. And um we'll try

2:20:26to have that moratorum extension maybe

2:20:28the next meeting.

2:20:29>> That's my plan is to have it on the next

2:20:30meeting.

2:20:30>> Okay. All right. 11D is uh ordinance on

2:20:34final hearing. was recommended for

2:20:36approval reszoning 9121 South Shields

2:20:38from double A C3C4 I1 and I2 to PUD 21

2:20:4454. This was deferred from October 13th

2:20:47and Councilman Stone knowing to sign up

2:20:49to speak. Thank you, Mayor. I'm going to

2:20:51try and go a little quicker on this one.

2:20:53Just a little bit.

2:20:54>> That was a year a year.

2:20:57>> I'm just giving you a hard time. This is

2:20:59expansion by the green company down at

2:21:0189th and Shields. And I'll go ahead and

2:21:04move for its approval.

2:21:12We have a motion and a second. Cast your

2:21:15votes.

2:21:20Passes unanimously. Item 11E is an

2:21:23ordinance on final hearing. It was

2:21:24recommended for approval reszoning 16424

2:21:27Southwestern from PUD 216 to PUD 2156.

2:21:31Um, Councilman Hinkle, no one has signed

2:21:33up to speak. I'll move for approval.

2:21:42Motion and second. Cast your votes.

2:21:47[snorts] Passes unanimously. Item 11F is

2:21:50an ordinance on final hearing that was

2:21:51recommended for approval reszoning 2205

2:21:53South Mustang Road from double A to P

2:21:562159.

2:21:58Councilwoman Avers, no one has time to

2:21:59speak.

2:22:03Yes, this has been fully coordinated

2:22:04with the community and make a motion to

2:22:06approve.

2:22:15Have a motion and a second. Cast your

2:22:17votes.

2:22:24>> Passes unanimously. Item G was

2:22:26previously deferred,

2:22:28which brings us to item H. This is the

2:22:30second of two meetings for this proposed

2:22:32ordinance change. Uh you may recall this

2:22:34being presented at a previous meeting

2:22:36relating to some updates to our

2:22:39personnel and retirement systems

2:22:40ordinances.

2:22:42If there's no questions or commentary,

2:22:44we can [snorts] possibly take a motion

2:22:47for final approval.

2:23:01Have a motion and a second. Cast your

2:23:02votes.

2:23:10Passes unanimously.

2:23:12Uh item I, this is an ordinance on final

2:23:15hearing adopting the South Oklahoma City

2:23:16Economic Development Project Plan. This

2:23:18is the second of two meetings on this

2:23:21topic.

2:23:22There's no further presentation. If

2:23:24there's no questions or comment,

2:23:28we could take a motion for adoption.

2:23:37Motion and a second. Cast your votes.

2:23:43Passes unanimously.

2:23:46J one is a public hearing regarding the

2:23:48Western Avenue Business Improvement

2:23:50District. Amy, has anyone signed up to

2:23:52speak?

2:23:55No, they haven't.

2:23:55>> They have not. And so we'll advance to

2:23:57the resolution found at J2 adopting and

2:24:00confirming an assessment role for 2026

2:24:022027.

2:24:08Got a motion and a second.

2:24:10Cast your votes.

2:24:15Passes unanimously. Item K is uh

2:24:18related. It's an ordinance on final

2:24:20hearing adopting and setting the

2:24:21assessment role for the Western Avenue

2:24:23Business Improvement District for the

2:24:24year 2026 2027.

2:24:36Have a motion and a second. Cast your

2:24:38votes.

2:24:45Passes unanimously.

2:24:52This is Kenny must really need to talk

2:24:54to me. We'll pause one moment.

2:26:31Keep it up there. Well, it's not there.

2:26:42>> I saw it for a moment.

2:26:43>> It was there.

2:26:56So the the current issue is

2:26:58>> there it is again quickly

2:27:00>> is that

2:27:01>> there's some dispute over whether it's

2:27:04necessary for that to be physically

2:27:06displayed on the screen from this is the

2:27:08vote on item 11B

2:27:11one

2:27:13that was not shown on the screen David

2:27:14were the others shown on the screen

2:27:16>> yes everyone else was that one was

2:27:18shown.

2:27:19>> It has now been shown

2:27:20>> momentarily twice a second.

2:27:23>> Um

2:27:26>> well, what if I what if I read out the

2:27:30>> You could read out you can read it out.

2:27:32>> Okay. This is whether this is necessary

2:27:36is probably a matter of debate, but just

2:27:38in the interest of um making [snorts]

2:27:41sure everyone's satisfied that this has

2:27:43been publicly shared,

2:27:45>> um the yes votes in favor of item 11 B1

2:27:53were cast by council members

2:27:58Carter, Avers, Stone, Hinkle, Hammond,

2:28:01Pennington,

2:28:02Stone, Cipher, and myself, uh, Mayor

2:28:06Halt, and the vote cast in opposition

2:28:10was cast by Councilwoman Hammond.

2:28:13>> Has that been Has that been publicly

2:28:15aired?

2:28:18>> That was just on the amendment.

2:28:19>> That was just on the amendment. What

2:28:21What is the objection?

2:28:24>> I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. You're

2:28:25absolutely right. All right.

2:28:27>> Yeah. Okay.

2:28:28>> Let's restate.

2:28:30>> Okay. The members who voted in favor of

2:28:34item 11B1

2:28:39were council members

2:28:42Carter, Avers, Stone, Hinkle, Hammond,

2:28:46Pennington, Stone Cipher, and myself,

2:28:48Mayor David Holt. And the council member

2:28:51who voted in opposition to 11 v1 was

2:28:54Councilman Cooper.

2:28:58>> Okay,

2:29:00>> good. Thank you. I know there's only

2:29:01five people who watch this, but this

2:29:02must have be really electrifying

2:29:04television right now. Um,

2:29:06>> it's unusual. [laughter]

2:29:09>> All right. And everything else was

2:29:11shown, correct, David? You saw it all.

2:29:13Okay.

2:29:16We are now um back to item

2:29:21L, right? Is that where we were when

2:29:24things came to a screeching halt? Okay.

2:29:2811 L1 is the public hearing regarding

2:29:30the dilapidated structures here listed

2:29:33uh except for one previously struck.

2:29:34Amy, has anyone signed up to speak under

2:29:36this public hearing?

2:29:37>> No, they have not. And so we will

2:29:39advance to the resolution found at item

2:29:42two declaring the structures are

2:29:43dilapidated.

2:29:52Have a motion, a second. Cast your

2:29:53votes.

2:29:55>> I vote yes.

2:29:57>> [snorts]

2:30:11>> passes unanimously.

2:30:13All right. 11 M1 is the public hearing

2:30:16regarding unsecured structures here

2:30:17listed except for those previously

2:30:19struck. Amy, has anyone signed up to

2:30:20speak?

2:30:21>> No, they haven't.

2:30:22>> You have not. [snorts] And so we'll

2:30:23advance to the resolution at M2

2:30:25declaring the structures are unsecured.

2:30:33Have a motion and a second.

2:30:37Cast your votes.

2:30:40Passes unanimously.

2:30:4311 in1 is the public hearing regarding

2:30:44the abandoned buildings here listed

2:30:48except for the one previously struck.

2:30:49Amy, has anyone sent to speak?

2:30:50>> No, they haven't.

2:30:51>> You have not. And so advance to the

2:30:52resolution found it into declaring the

2:30:54buildings are abandoned.

2:30:58[snorts]

2:31:01A motion and a second. Cast your votes.

2:31:07Passes unanimously.

2:31:09Item O is a resolution authorizing the

2:31:11calling and holding of a general and a

2:31:13runoff election in the city of Oklahoma

2:31:15City for the purpose of electing council

2:31:16members from WS 256 and 8. Um filing is

2:31:20December 7th, 8th, and 9th. Um the

2:31:23general election is February 9th. The

2:31:25runoff, if needed, is April 6th.

2:31:35We have motion and a second. Cast your

2:31:37votes.

2:31:41Passes unanimously. Item P1 is a resol

2:31:45resolution authorizing the municipal

2:31:47counselor to confess judgment without

2:31:48admitting liability in the case of Smith

2:31:50VC. Executive session is not requested

2:31:52by staff.

2:31:55[clears throat]

2:32:01Motion and a second. Cast your votes.

2:32:06Passes unanimously.

2:32:08Item 11 Q1 is a resolution authorizing

2:32:11the firm Colin Zorn and Wagner to

2:32:13represent [snorts] municipal employees

2:32:14Jared Adcock and Tomas Mega in the case

2:32:17of Miles VC of OKC. Executive session is

2:32:20not requested.

2:32:28The motion and a second cast your votes.

2:32:33Passes seven to one. Um item R is an

2:32:37executive session on advice of the

2:32:39municipal counselor to receive

2:32:41confidential communications from its

2:32:42attorney concerning the case of uh

2:32:45Zavalo v city of OKC and Martinez. Um we

2:32:49do need a vote on going into executive

2:32:51session and then we'll handle that at

2:32:53the end of our other business.

2:32:59We have a motion and a second.

2:33:02Cast your votes.

2:33:06passes unanimously.

2:33:09Item S1 is a claim recommended for

2:33:13denial.

2:33:14Executive session is not requested by

2:33:16staff.

2:33:21We have a motion and a second. Cast your

2:33:23votes.

2:33:26[snorts]

2:33:29Passes unanimously.

2:33:32Item T1 are claims recommended for

2:33:35approval. Executive session is not

2:33:37requested by staff.

2:33:46The motion in a second. Cast your votes.

2:33:52[snorts]

2:33:53Passes unanimously.

2:33:57All right. Um that concludes our voting

2:34:00for today. Okay, now we're at item 12,

2:34:02comments from council. Uh, ward one,

2:34:06w two, w three, w four, w five. I would

2:34:11like to re remind everybody that this

2:34:14Thursday night [snorts] at 6 o'clock at

2:34:15the southwest library at 134th in Penn,

2:34:18I'll be having a town hall, so cookies

2:34:21and beverages will be provided.

2:34:26>> Thank you. Ward six. W seven. Just want

2:34:29to say despite my no vote, I just do

2:34:31want to again commend um Councilwoman

2:34:33Averies. You did an outstanding job.

2:34:35This was a really a lot of work, a lot

2:34:36of sacrifice, a lot of community

2:34:38meetings, and I have a deep respect for

2:34:39the hard work you put into it. So, just

2:34:41want to publicly say great job for that

2:34:45>> or date.

2:34:46>> Nothing at this time. Thank you.

2:34:47>> All right, that concludes comments from

2:34:49council, which brings us to item 13,

2:34:51citizens to be heard. Uh Landon

2:34:53Kirkindall.

2:35:03>> Um good morning, city council. Um my

2:35:05name is Lean and made a name Kirkindall.

2:35:08Um every council meeting I'm going to

2:35:10get up here and remind Oklahoma

2:35:12residents and you guys that David Holt

2:35:14does not care about our kids despite the

2:35:16optics that he tries so hard to parade.

2:35:19Um and actually many of you sitting in

2:35:22this horseshoe fall under that same

2:35:24category. Um a few things that you said

2:35:27avers about the data center. Um it

2:35:30doesn't matter how nice your words are

2:35:32if your words don't actually support the

2:35:35vote. I'm a STEM girly. Okay. Um you

2:35:37kept bringing up the fact of decibb.

2:35:42I think frequency is also important and

2:35:45I didn't hear you mention frequency.

2:35:47um and frequencies

2:35:50at extended periods of time have immense

2:35:53impacts on the human body as well as our

2:35:56agriculture, animals, things of that

2:35:58nature. So, it doesn't matter what the

2:36:00decibel is if the frequency is

2:36:02disrupting to the human body and the

2:36:05surrounding agriculture.

2:36:07Um, and I think a lot of you guys that

2:36:09voted yes for that data data center

2:36:11shows that you guys also do not care

2:36:14about doing long-term education to

2:36:18research. Just as a reminder, um, AI

2:36:22technology was responsible for killing

2:36:25122 girls in Iran at the start of

2:36:28Trump's one-day war. Um, and until we

2:36:31can get regulations on AI and on data

2:36:34centers, it's not something that you

2:36:36guys should just be so open about

2:36:38putting, especially in people's

2:36:40neighborhoods. Um, that I just wanted to

2:36:43address. Um, Hle, you've been on

2:36:47[clears throat] my topic list for quite

2:36:49a while now, since September, but things

2:36:51are more important and keeps pushing you

2:36:53to the bottom of my list of things to

2:36:55address. Um, and I'm actually going to

2:36:56wait till after your town hall meeting.

2:36:58Um, because I do want to I do want to

2:37:01address some things that you said that

2:37:02are very concerning. Um, but I did

2:37:05attend Pennington's town hall meeting a

2:37:08few weeks ago and I decided to leave

2:37:11early um, due to the immense amount of

2:37:13fluff and cloaked misinformation. I do

2:37:17want to remind Oklahoma that our early

2:37:19voting starts tomorrow. Um, so make sure

2:37:22that we get out and we start to vote.

2:37:24Vote no on the jail tax. Um, again, it's

2:37:27a regressive tax. We will be taxed until

2:37:29201. Also, vote no on questions.

2:37:32>> Okay. I'm gonna have to stop you. You,

2:37:33it is expressly stated in the agenda,

2:37:35you cannot advocate on uh elections. So,

2:37:38you'll have to stay away from that topic

2:37:40or conclude your comments.

2:37:41>> Okay. Um,

2:37:44>> again, we need to vote to get um our

2:37:47ourselves addressed and matters

2:37:50addressed that are important. Um, David

2:37:54Holt doesn't want me to talk about the

2:37:56voting. Um,

2:37:58>> you can always encourage people to vote.

2:37:59>> Never.

2:38:02>> We should have voted against you, but

2:38:03hey, we did not. So, we're stuck until

2:38:072030 and then I'll That's my time.

2:38:11>> Thank you, Steve Hunt.

2:38:14[snorts]

2:38:21>> Steve Hunt.

2:38:23I just want to go on the record for some

2:38:26wacky Chamber of Commerce propaganda

2:38:29that I came across a couple months ago

2:38:31and talked with Sue Holland back out in

2:38:33the hall about um and I and a lot of

2:38:36people don't know that it's really hard

2:38:39sometimes to determine where the Chamber

2:38:41of Commerce ends and city government

2:38:42begins. Uh they work together closely.

2:38:44Hollandbeck actually used to work for

2:38:46the CVB and now works on special

2:38:48projects. Special projects are the

2:38:50things that we don't want voters to know

2:38:53too much about. Um so there there was a

2:38:55study uh conducted by a firm in

2:38:58Philadelphia. Although there's a lot

2:38:59that goes on in Philadelphia um with

2:39:01Oklahoma City, that's where Mayor Holt's

2:39:03wife's from. Um record 25 million

2:39:06visitors fueled Oklahoma City's economy

2:39:08in 2025. And this uh was done by tourism

2:39:13economics. Again, that's a Philadelphia

2:39:15firm. um basically just gives stats and

2:39:20you know a lot of things and then you

2:39:23get to the end of the uh the article and

2:39:28hold on I just printed this up and I

2:39:30don't remember where it is just a second

2:39:34okay

2:39:36when people think about tourism they

2:39:37often think al often think about hotels

2:39:39or attractions but it impacts reaches

2:39:41much further said visitor spending

2:39:44supports restaurants retailers

2:39:45transportation providers blah blah blah.

2:39:46It's an investment that benefits

2:39:48Oklahoma City long after visitors. Um

2:39:54Oh, this got cut off. Well, anyway, the

2:39:55the important part is here. Oklahoma

2:39:57City household would have needed to

2:40:00contribute an additional 1412 in taxes

2:40:03to replace the revenue generated by

2:40:05visitors. In other words, the impact of

2:40:07tourism is not only felt by businesses

2:40:09that welcome visitors, but by the entire

2:40:11community. So Christy Gillanwater and

2:40:13friends are saying that we saved $1,412

2:40:19in taxes that we would have to spend.

2:40:21And so I I crunched the the numbers and

2:40:24found out that this is just Chamber of

2:40:26Commerce math because they took the

2:40:27gross revenue of uh tourism and divided

2:40:32it by taxpayers, not factoring in the

2:40:34billions we've given to their arena, the

2:40:37132 million for Scissorel, the 130

2:40:39million for the uh the Jeff Bez transit

2:40:44thing. Um, you know, not only that, but

2:40:47the wear and tear on infrastructure,

2:40:49police, MISA. Um, if the camera could

2:40:53get Mayor

2:40:53>> 30 seconds remaining

2:40:54>> playing his uh Fruit Ninja game while

2:40:57I'm talking. Um, so yeah, I I just

2:41:00wanted to mention this because the

2:41:01chamber is very involved right now in a

2:41:03number of campaigns, specifically the

2:41:05Fix the Jail part two campaign. They're

2:41:07the ones behind that. And I noticed that

2:41:10their sign out here didn't have the city

2:41:12permit on it. Um, I think it's funny

2:41:14that they failed to follow a simple city

2:41:17rule with their signs. I want to give a

2:41:20big shout out to Jennifer Mayo and Dr.

2:41:21Brown for being the only two that have

2:41:23used those.

2:41:24>> Thank you. We're at time. Ronnie Kirk.

2:41:39My name is Ryder Kirk.

2:41:43My address is 2328

2:41:46North Missouri.

2:41:48You know,

2:41:50a lot can happen

2:41:53in three weeks.

2:41:57Earthquake.

2:42:00Oh, in Thailand.

2:42:06Large building

2:42:08shot by a missile.

2:42:10hunds died.

2:42:16192

2:42:18Africans,

2:42:22women and children

2:42:24beheaded.

2:42:26That's all in three weeks.

2:42:30our kids.

2:42:32Same thing I talked about last time.

2:42:38The media,

2:42:41our government,

2:42:43our mayors, and our councils [snorts]

2:42:47still need to get together

2:42:50to get some good

2:42:53stuff put on the air for the kids at

2:42:57least for once an hour.

2:43:00They need something for their brain.

2:43:05Showing them what's good. You got

2:43:08millions of kids doing something that

2:43:11you can show at least hour or one of

2:43:14them doing something. Our kids today

2:43:20millions of them

2:43:23I call it brainwashed two weeks ago.

2:43:27But today's technology,

2:43:30am I saying that right? Termination,

2:43:35it call PTSD.

2:43:38All our kids got it. Even y'all got it.

2:43:42Even we got it. You know, we got so used

2:43:45to debt, it doesn't matter. Oh, it

2:43:48happened over there. Oh, it don't

2:43:51concern us. It ain't going to bother our

2:43:53kids. Yes, it does.

2:43:57So y'all get together with the mayor,

2:44:00the senators, Lisa. All right. Now, you

2:44:04know, they had the four kids that had

2:44:07these school shooting

2:44:10and then two one week ago,

2:44:12>> 30 seconds remaining.

2:44:14>> They had two girls,

2:44:17117

2:44:19and 114,

2:44:21did a school shooting. It don't matter

2:44:24how many it was. They started the girls

2:44:28started shooting.

2:44:30It's just they starting

2:44:34for

2:44:35and I don't know why,

2:44:39you know, somehow,

2:44:41you know, I'm not a real wise man.

2:44:45>> Thank you, Ronnie. We're at time. Thank

2:44:47you. We're now going to go into

2:44:49executive session. Oh, same return for a

2:44:52job. Thank you. [laughter]

2:50:26One, two, three,

2:50:30four, five. All right, we are back from

2:50:32executive session and we are adjourned.

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