2026-10-15 - City of Oklahoma City Board of Adjustment Meeting

00:06The case number?

00:07>> Uh

00:0957

00:11>> No, that's not it.

00:17>> You have to excuse us, this is our first

00:18time.

00:18>> Yeah, this is our first time here.

00:24I don't know.

00:54>> Good afternoon. Welcome to Oklahoma City

00:56Board of Adjustment.

00:58It's 1:30. We've got a quorum, so I'm

01:01going to call the meeting to order. Next

01:04item is the minutes. Did everybody look

01:06those over?

01:11>> I move to receive the minutes of the

01:12October 1, 2026 meeting.

01:15>> Second.

01:16>> Got a motion and a second.

01:18Cast your votes.

01:31And the minutes are received.

01:33Uh Cindy, looks like we have one

01:37continuance.

01:38>> The one new continuance is item number

01:40one, case number 16379.

01:44The request of Mr. William White for

01:47accessory building regulations located

01:49at 12701 Morning Dove Drive has been

01:52continued to December 3rd.

01:56>> Number three

01:59Is it?

01:59>> It's at the top.

02:02>> Okay.

02:06All right. You said number one, William

02:09White.

02:11>> The December 3rd and then item number

02:13three, case number 16376

02:16is continued till November 5th.

02:19>> Okay. We got two items to continue.

02:23We have a motion.

02:25>> I'll make a motion to approve the

02:27continuance requests as read.

02:30And I wanted to make a note that in the

02:33in the agenda, it says it's deferred to

02:35October 5th. I believe that's supposed

02:37to be November 5th.

02:39>> Yes, we made that correction.

02:40>> it.

02:42>> I'll second.

02:43>> Okay. We have a motion and a second to

02:45defer two items.

02:55Yeah, I'll cast your vote.

03:03All right. Those two items are

03:05continued.

03:07Um is there anyone in the public who

03:09wants to

03:12You can come up, David. It's okay, but

03:14is there anybody in the pub- in the

03:16audience who wants to continue an item

03:18or withdraw?

03:20Okay. None. There's no consent docket.

03:25So, now it's your turn.

03:27>> Item number two, case number 16380,

03:31request of Box Law Group on behalf of

03:32Kelly Sports for a variance to parking

03:35regulations located at 11100

03:38North Kelly Avenue.

03:40>> Good afternoon, David Box, 525 Northwest

03:4211th Street. Here on behalf of the

03:43applicant, this is uh a variance request

03:45as it relates to the parking

03:46requirement. This is an existing

03:49building that we seek to add on to yeah,

03:51to the east. It's that land that is

03:53currently uh dirt in the aerial. The

03:55expansion would require an additional 66

03:57spaces, uh which would be significantly

03:59over parked. What we have now is more

04:02than adequate for what we have plus what

04:04the expansion will allow. So, uh with

04:06that, happy to answer any questions. We

04:07would ask your approval.

04:09>> All right.

04:11And I don't have anybody signed up.

04:13No. Nobody signed up on this one. Does

04:16anyone want to address the board on this

04:18application?

04:20Okay. Questions, comments?

04:22>> Um I'll start. And I am in favor of

04:26granting the variance, but I wanted to

04:27go through kind of what I've been

04:30working on with the new code update and

04:33where this actually would have to be

04:35parked and the threshold, if you were to

04:38do the math in the new calculation

04:41in the new code update, this would have

04:46617

04:48parking spots for this use unit.

04:52And

04:54uh

04:56Luda multiplier.

04:58So, just a a an idea of

05:01of where it would have had to be parked

05:03if this was under the new code update

05:05and

05:06>> 600?

05:07>> 607

05:08>> [music]

05:08>> 17.

05:10Anyway,

05:11um

05:12with that being said, I did kind of look

05:14at it. This is going to be a volleyball

05:15facility.

05:17And

05:18there's a possibility of 17 courts in a

05:21tournament situation over there.

05:23And that could be 408 players.

05:26That's a lot of of parents and cars. And

05:30you're you're proposing 222 parking

05:32spots when this is completed, right?

05:34>> Yeah, what's there now?

05:35>> What's there now? No additions? So, just

05:37the 202?

05:37>> In the back, there there will be perhaps

05:39some additional, but

05:40not

05:41>> not the 66.

05:42>> Right. Right. We'll probably be able to

05:43reduce some of that on the back.

05:45>> Yep.

05:46>> So,

05:47something that I wanted to see if if the

05:49applicant would be willing to do is

05:51there's a whole bunch of islands within

05:54the parking lot

05:56and there's zero canopy trees left. They

05:59all died.

06:01Do you think you could put some canopy

06:03trees back into the islands?

06:05>> Uh into those three islands or are you

06:07talking about every island?

06:09>> Uh I'm talking about every island.

06:12>> Sure. There's only thing that's left is

06:13some shrubs.

06:14>> The rest all the trees that were there

06:16are all dead.

06:17>> Well, that is sad. Um sure.

06:20>> And it used to all be upland forest. I

06:21mean, there's

06:23just some reasoning behind the upland

06:25forest.

06:25>> Yeah, we'll we'll we'll plant some I

06:27would say what is that?

06:29Uh 10?

06:30>> Yeah, there's there's 10 there's a I

06:32think there's

06:34>> We will give you 13 trees, one per

06:36island.

06:37>> Okay.

06:38>> maples

06:39I don't want to get into an argument.

06:41>> Yeah,

06:41>> [laughter]

06:41>> I don't want to I don't want to get into

06:43species either. I just I want them to be

06:45canopy trees.

06:46>> All right, 13 canopy trees as a

06:48condition to the approval of the

06:49variance.

06:50>> Okay. I was going to ask what

06:51>> With 600

06:53would be the not man.

06:54>> 617 spots

06:55>> You guys are going to get worn out with

06:56parking variances.

06:59>> I did the math on the equation.

07:01>> lovely

07:02>> Oh,

07:02well

07:02>> Airbnb it'll be the Airbnb commission

07:05and the parking variances.

07:06>> So, yes, commercial commercial has no

07:10basically no limit on the parking or a

07:12zero, but there's a threshold and if

07:15you're above the threshold, then you

07:16have to do X and if you're below, you

07:18have to do Y. So, you can park it

07:20however you want and that's why I'm in

07:22agreement with

07:24the applicant on making the variance

07:28because they know what they need for to

07:30park this. I'm just saying if you did

07:32the math according to the new calculator

07:35of parking,

07:36that's where it would have been.

07:40And I thought it was very interesting

07:42cuz I'm on that committee and wanted to

07:43see what this was.

07:46>> Okay, so from Sarah Welch Planning

07:47Department, from staff's perspective or

07:49just for clarification in the future,

07:51are you referring to the islands in the

07:54front of the building? Because we do

07:55have islands sprinkled around the

07:56building.

07:57>> the parking lot. The large

07:59>> So, to to your point, Sarah, you're the

08:01large islands. I don't know how to

08:03describe this.

08:05Uh

08:06No.

08:11Yeah, not those.

08:13>> Yeah, the Well, there's 13 islands, but

08:15I I want to see them in the large

08:16islands. You You plant the 13 trees

08:18wherever, but the big islands get a

08:19tree.

08:21Those little ones in the middle don't

08:22need one, and then maybe put some in the

08:24front.

08:25>> Okay, 13 trees.

08:26>> Yeah, cuz I was going to ask for 40, so

08:2830 30

08:29>> 40 trees?

08:30>> Yeah.

08:30>> We're going to reforest

08:32the northeast part of Golden City. All

08:33right, 13 trees.

08:36We'll call you to the dedication and the

08:37ribbon cutting.

08:39>> [laughter]

08:43>> Okay.

08:44>> Any other questions, comments?

08:47Are we ready for a motion?

08:49>> Sarah Welch tree.

08:51The dedicated tree.

08:52>> You guys have anything else?

08:53>> I do.

08:54>> Anything else?

08:56Then

08:59I will make a motion to approve case

09:01number 16380

09:04on the basis that it meets the s-

09:07statutory requirement for the variance.

09:10>> I'll second.

09:12>> With the condition of the 13 trees.

09:14>> additional trees.

09:18>> Okay, we have a motion and a second.

09:19Cash to vote.

09:21>> Thank you.

09:22>> You're approved.

09:25>> Item three was continued to November the

09:285th. Number four, case number 16381.

09:31It's an application for a special

09:33exception of Todd and Tara Wilkinson to

09:35allow a mobile home to serve as a

09:37temporary second dwelling to relieve a

09:39medical hardship

09:40and a variance to the requirement that

09:42the mobile home be placed behind the

09:43front wall of the principal dwelling

09:46located at 4505

09:49Southeast 154th Street.

09:59>> Give us your name and address and tell

10:01us about the application, please.

10:03>> Okay, this Todd and Tamera Willcoxen.

10:06Um we live at 4505 Southeast 154th

10:09Street, which is just south of Southeast

10:11149th and Sunny Lane section.

10:14Um

10:16where we want to put it is

10:20I'm sorry, I have

10:22neurological problems, so to look up is

10:24is bad, but um

10:26and I'm not a good artist, so but where

10:29we say house

10:32if you'll look up in the far right

10:33corner, there's an acre of land that's

10:36already had a double wide put on it.

10:38That's when we bought it back in '09, it

10:40had a double wide there.

10:41Um when we built our house, we sold the

10:44double wide and removed it, but because

10:47I have um recently become

10:51down with some medical issues, I need to

10:53have some help with me

10:55and he works at night, so I need someone

10:57there during the night time.

11:00Um but

11:02in that Yeah.

11:04What is this Bovi Road?

11:06154th comes in, as you can tell a little

11:09bit, and then there's um

11:13I'm going to step back.

11:15Um

11:17Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

11:21Okay. Um

11:23but right where it looks like some

11:24sidewalk

11:26going to a um

11:29carport

11:30right in front of that where's where the

11:32old double wide was and there are still

11:35all the um

11:37piers and

11:38>> The runners, everything is still there.

11:39>> Everything's hooked up for the water,

11:41sewer, everything's there still.

11:44>> The power still runs over there from the

11:46from the

11:46>> Yeah, I pay two electric bills, separate

11:49electric accounts, one for that side,

11:51one for our side.

11:53Um but to have it put behind our house,

11:55the front wall,

11:56my sewer and I brought current pictures

11:58from this morning when it was raining

11:59and my sewer was spraying because it's

12:01the anaerobic.

12:03There's no room to put a house back

12:04behind my front wall.

12:09Unless you go out in the pasture, which

12:11as you can tell nothing grows there,

12:13it's all rock.

12:15Good old Oklahoma red rock.

12:19>> Okay.

12:20No one signed up to speak on this

12:22application. Does anyone want to address

12:25the board on this one?

12:28Okay. Questions, comments?

12:30From the board?

12:36>> I'll just state

12:38Uh

12:39I will just state that

12:41that you did

12:42turn in the the

12:44documentation

12:46for the special exception on the medical

12:48hardship. And then as far as the

12:51variance, I'm in agreement with the

12:53reasoning and the fact that the existing

12:56location already is ready for it.

13:00So, with that, I will make a motion to

13:03do the variance first.

13:06Not together.

13:07Or

13:09together?

13:10>> One application. I'm okay with that.

13:14>> So, I will make a motion to approve case

13:16number 16381

13:19for the special exception and the

13:21variance as it

13:24relates to

13:28the

13:28it meets the criteria for the

13:30said exception and variance.

13:34>> And I'll second.

13:34>> And the medical except medical hardship

13:37is 3-year term?

13:38>> 3-year term.

13:38>> Okay, 3-year term.

13:40>> Okay.

13:41>> I'll second.

13:42>> Got a motion and a second.

13:45Cast your votes.

13:48You're approved.

13:49>> Thank you.

13:50>> Thank you.

13:52>> Item number five, case number 16196 is

13:55an application by Melissa

13:57Iceberg on behalf of 32 Group LLC to

13:59allow home sharing at 1217 Northeast

14:0215th Street.

14:08>> Morning.

14:10Or afternoon.

14:12>> Close enough.

14:12>> Yeah, yeah.

14:15>> Give us your name and address and tell

14:16us about your application.

14:18>> My name's Tanner Cardy and the address

14:20is 1217 Northeast 15th Street.

14:23Um

14:24I'm part of 32 Group.

14:28>> All right.

14:34I don't have anybody signed up on this

14:36one. Does anyone want to address the

14:38board on this application?

14:42Okay, questions, comments?

14:44>> No, I just want to go over your your

14:46application. It's a three-bedroom,

14:47one-bath home.

14:48>> Yes, sir.

14:50>> You are requesting a maximum number of

14:52guests to be six.

14:53>> Yes.

14:56>> I'd like to add quiet hours from 9:00

14:58p.m. to 8:00 a.m.

15:00>> I believe that's already on there, um

15:02but I'll double-check.

15:03>> And then

15:05uh maximum number of vehicles to be

15:07three.

15:08And then no on-street parking.

15:10>> Okay.

15:10>> And then the term would be 1 year.

15:12>> Okay.

15:16>> Is that a motion?

15:17>> Um

15:17>> It will be.

15:18>> It will be.

15:21>> I just I just want to verify that there

15:23hasn't been rentals.

15:25This I think this was one of the legacy

15:28when we were still enforcing that wait

15:30period. And so, as long as it hadn't

15:32been rentals, I'm okay

15:34with approving this one.

15:54>> So, what we're looking up is the rental

15:55history. Just put

15:56>> Give it again.

15:57>> We're just looking up the rental

15:58history.

15:59>> Okay. I know that we were here like

16:01April 16th 6 months ago or something.

16:03And then, I believe my wife uh took it

16:06down from there.

16:07And then, I think the whole thing was

16:09you had people that were already

16:12booked out cuz like I know we had

16:13somebody for like January of this year.

16:15Somebody after like the softball

16:17tournament already rebooked it for the

16:18next year. We kept those and we just

16:20didn't add any more.

17:05>> Were you booking 30 days or less? Were

17:08you booking less than 30 days?

17:10>> Um for the most part, what we've

17:11typically experienced is it's been

17:13people that have been longer. Like

17:14whenever we were up and going, it was a

17:16lot of people from OU Medical.

17:18Um

17:20it would be around 2 weeks. It would be

17:23most of them.

17:24Had other people that have asked to stay

17:26longer. Obviously, we try to keep it

17:27under that 30-day window.

17:29>> I think what we're concerned of is

17:31basically May, June, July, August,

17:34September.

17:35>> This past May, June, July, August,

17:36September, if we were booked out then?

17:38>> Yeah.

17:39>> No.

17:40There might have been people prior to us

17:42coming on the 6th that already booked

17:43like a week or whatever it is that

17:45already had surgery or whatever might

17:47take place that already signed up for

17:49it.

17:50But I think even if I go right now, I

17:51can't even book it.

17:52>> So, I have a We have a third-party tool

17:55that can see when it's been rented and

17:57booked and things. So, that's There were

18:00some bookings from back in March. So,

18:02before this was

18:04before you came before us, but it looks

18:06like it was booked in July and August

18:09also.

18:10>> really handle who like the booking of

18:12it. I just know what my wife sent me and

18:14showed me and sent me with in terms of

18:16turning it off

18:18for new people unless they've already

18:19prior

18:20booked it.

18:25>> Yeah, I mean, if this is in

18:27I mean, I might need more time to look

18:29at it then cuz

18:31it it appears on our third party that it

18:33could potentially be live right now. So,

18:37>> Yeah, and I'll tell you so,

18:39we have softened our approach on these.

18:41The main reason that I'm asking is

18:43because if

18:45it was off the record that this would be

18:47the requirement for granting it this

18:49time and so, I don't want to have

18:51something on record and then be going

18:52against that. And according to my notes

18:55from that April meeting,

18:58>> I have that too right here.

19:00>> Yeah, it was not to be uh

19:03rented as a short-term rental

19:05until

19:07uh you came back here. So,

19:09>> So, my mom was actually here and she

19:10gave me all of her notes and

19:12you are Marcus, and it says Marcus

19:14suggested, asked Marcus a number of

19:15times if we need to take it off. Marcus

19:17suggested not to, and then she made

19:19parentheses, take it off unless there

19:21are prior bookings.

19:23>> I don't think that would be the case.

19:24That's not something that we've

19:26established.

19:26>> Cuz that's what we were asking, that was

19:27a big thing.

19:29>> so your prior bookings that you already

19:30have booked, I don't I don't know where

19:32they all go, but definitely we would

19:34didn't want to see new bookings.

19:36>> Correct.

19:37>> And I think where they're getting maybe

19:39where

19:40they're getting a little bit stuck is

19:41that the software indicates that there

19:43were bookings made after that meeting.

19:46>> After that April

19:47>> like they're accepted, like not like

19:50like booked on

19:51um

19:51>> And you're saying if you go on right now

19:52it says it is

19:53>> No, no, no. Actually, I'm trying to

19:54click on it and it says the link's

19:56broken.

19:56>> Okay.

19:57>> Anyway,

19:58um but it like we

19:59>> live right now.

20:00>> No, I was like there's no way cuz I've

20:02>> Yeah, it just the link is broken.

20:03>> this, my wife was handling it, and then

20:05I stepped in to try to help whenever

20:06this all came in. So, I know for a fact

20:08that I took it down.

20:09>> When did you take it down?

20:10>> I took it down cuz my mom came, we went

20:13over all of this. I took it down, but

20:15what happened was I actually took it

20:16down, and then it took somebody's

20:17reservation off that was having surgery,

20:19so I put it back up so that they could

20:21finish what they had to cuz they needed

20:22to change their dates. If you take it

20:24down, you can't change your dates.

20:25And so, then I had to put it back up. I

20:27had to do that twice for people that

20:28were having surgery. One person had it,

20:30they were going to stay for a week. Now

20:31they only needed to stay for 4 days.

20:33>> Okay, so how long has it been down now?

20:37>> It went back up once in August to make a

20:38correction, and once in September to

20:40make a correction, I know of that, and

20:41then it came back down after the

20:42corrections were made.

20:44>> When did it go When did you take it down

20:45after the

20:46>> After after this, but like I said, I had

20:47to go in a couple of times

20:49>> day or that same day it was taken down?

20:50>> know if it was that night, the next

20:52morning, cuz

20:53>> But close after the April 16th.

20:55>> Yes, close after the April, and then we

20:56had to make prior adjustments. Like I

20:58think we have

20:59>> We'll continue.

21:00>> Like I said, we have I know that we

21:01already have a softball booking for the

21:03World Series uh College World Series.

21:06>> I'm going to recommend we continue just

21:08to verify that information.

21:09>> Okay.

21:09>> And if is

21:11if we can do that

21:13>> Well, I might not I might not be able

21:14to. So, we're using this third-party

21:15software. So, I I can tell where it was

21:18booked prior in April and or in March

21:20and then you came here in April. And

21:22then if he took it down and put it back

21:24up again, I don't know how that affects

21:26the booking date.

21:28I don't know how it affects the booking

21:29date in our software.

21:31Because it shows it was booked in July

21:33and August for for

21:35like like the the application or the

21:37booking was accepted.

21:38So, I don't really know if he took it

21:40down

21:41>> I get I get what you're saying. Does

21:42that does that affect it if they had to

21:44make an alteration or whatever it might

21:45be?

21:47>> Yeah, I don't know if the booking date

21:48is always when the client booked it or

21:50if you took it down and put it back up

21:52if it would reset. I don't know how that

21:54would I can't there's no way I could

21:55verify that.

21:58>> Okay.

21:59I get what you're saying.

22:01Trying to think of a way that I could.

22:05>> So, my recommendation then would just be

22:07to defer it

22:08>> I think it might be

22:08>> till then. November 5th is the only

22:09meeting we have in November.

22:12>> That would give us an opportunity to

22:15uh

22:16Yeah, and just

22:17clarification

22:17>> Right. And also just know it's another

22:1930 day they're close to 30 days that

22:20it's off.

22:22>> Okay.

22:23>> So, I need to come back again?

22:25>> Well,

22:27I mean you have to agree to the

22:28the continuance

22:30which is much better option than a

22:32denial today.

22:32>> Sure.

22:34>> So,

22:35and

22:36we just need to be

22:37>> be

22:38there would need to be no no bookings.

22:40So, the software is

22:42>> So,

22:43if I have somebody that wants to make an

22:44adjustment, can what do what do you guys

22:46need for me if you guys see that again?

22:47Do I not let them make an adjustment?

22:49>> So, are you saying you have you have a

22:51booking right now?

22:52>> I don't have a booking right now. But, I

22:54have somebody for like the only one that

22:55I can think of right now down the road I

22:56think we have someone for the softball

22:58college world series whenever that is.

23:00>> That's in a long time. You'll have a

23:01special exception by then.

23:03>> All right. Okay.

23:04So, then So, but I want to make sure

23:06we're all on the same page before

23:07leaving here. So, you don't currently

23:09[clears throat] have any bookings

23:10between now and the November meeting.

23:13>> Not that I'm aware of, no.

23:14No.

23:15>> Agreed.

23:16>> Okay. So, then

23:17>> It It hasn't been active for people to

23:19book it.

23:19>> Right.

23:20>> Like if I just like go in and make an

23:21adjustment, I guess that triggers it to

23:23be active again.

23:24>> But what I'm saying is there wouldn't be

23:26any need for an adjustment either

23:27because there's nothing between now and

23:30So, in the November meeting

23:32the software we shouldn't have any

23:34issues with the soft software showing

23:35any activity regardless of an update or

23:38a new booking because there's nothing to

23:39update. And there's there's the site's

23:41going to be down the entire

23:42>> And there's nothing else we can do cuz I

23:44don't live here. I live far away. This

23:46is I didn't want to send my mom again.

23:49>> So

23:49>> So, I flew in today.

23:52>> You can send your mom.

23:53>> Okay. Like we already paid I think

23:55>> If she lives here.

23:56>> Yeah, we already paid the

23:57$1,100 penalty.

23:58>> we'll we'll we'll remember this in the

24:00next 20 days. So

24:01>> Okay.

24:02>> And nobody signed up on this one. Is

24:05there anybody who wants to address the

24:07board on this application?

24:10>> Okay.

24:11>> So, I'm going to make a motion to

24:13continue case number 16196

24:15to November 5th.

24:17>> I'll second.

24:21>> Okay, we have a motion and a second.

24:23Cast your votes.

24:28We'll see your mom back on the

24:30>> Okay, so just so I'm clear with the

24:31fellows, just nothing for the 12th of

24:34the 5th.

24:35Come back.

24:36>> So, right. On the 5th you'll come back

24:38here. You get a special exception those

24:3910 days before you get the board order,

24:41then you can turn it back on.

24:43>> Beautiful.

24:43>> And and so, this goes to get your timely

24:46renewal and you don't have to go through

24:48any

24:48>> Yes, no, for sure. Thanks guys.

24:54>> Item number six, case number 16340 is an

24:57application by Emilio Castillo to allow

25:00home sharing located at 1444 Northwest

25:032nd Street.

25:05>> Hello, my name is Emilio Castillo. I'm

25:08looking to extend my

25:09Airbnb license

25:11uh at 1444 Northwest 2nd Street.

25:18>> Okay. No one signed up to speak on this

25:20one. Is there anybody who wants to

25:22address the board on this application?

25:27Okay.

25:28>> So, go ahead and I'll start with So,

25:30this is a new application because you

25:31weren't timely in your renewal.

25:34>> Yeah, I uh this is my first time doing

25:36the whole Airbnb.

25:38>> Yeah.

25:39Maybe 6 weeks before it's time to get

25:42when your when when your expect special

25:45exception expires,

25:47start the application process.

25:49>> Okay.

25:49>> Because it's less money and it's easier.

25:52>> Okay.

25:53>> So, just

25:55a warning for that.

25:57Um

25:58>> No, we we learned that the hard way this

25:59time.

26:00>> Yeah.

26:04So, just on the application, it's a

26:06three-bedroom, three-bath home?

26:09>> No.

26:10It's a one-bedroom

26:16>> You're just going to You're asking for

26:17one bedroom though, what? Right?

26:19>> One bedroom, one bath. That's that's all

26:20it is.

26:21>> The whole house is?

26:22>> Yeah, because it's a duplex. One side is

26:24>> Okay. I just County records had it at

26:27three, so they must be counting both

26:28sides. You're just using one side, it's

26:30a duplex, but you own both sides.

26:32>> Yes.

26:34>> Okay.

26:35Um

26:38I'd like to see it just since it's a

26:40one-bedroom to be maximized as two

26:43guests instead of you had three.

26:46>> Okay.

26:46>> But I I'd rather see that it just a two

26:49two guest max.

26:50>> There's a pull-out couch in the living

26:52room.

26:54>> I think that's why

26:55you had to agree.

26:56>> Yeah,

26:57it's just being a duplex.

27:00>> Okay.

27:01>> And

27:03that's I'm just one vote. You might get

27:04them on the on the additional.

27:06>> The other side is a golf simulator that

27:08I use, so there's nobody spending a

27:09night or anything.

27:11It's something that I I I personally

27:13use, so there's nobody sleeping on the

27:15other side.

27:18>> That makes a difference then.

27:20Uh

27:20I want to revise the quiet hours 9:00

27:22p.m. to 8:00 a.m.

27:23>> Okay.

27:25>> Maximum number of vehicles to be two.

27:27>> Okay.

27:29>> With no on-street parking.

27:33And then so just a question for you guys

27:35on the max number of guests.

27:38What you feel comfortable with on that?

27:40With nobody in the other side.

27:42>> I'm okay with three since nobody's

27:46>> Me too.

27:46>> across the wall. Yeah.

27:48>> That's fine.

27:48>> So, we'll leave that at three.

27:50>> Okay.

27:57>> Anything else?

27:59>> Nope.

28:00>> Then I will make a motion to approve

28:03case number 16340

28:05on the basis that it meets the statutory

28:07requirement for a special exception

28:10with a revision to the quiet hours to

28:129:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. and max number of

28:14vehicles two and no on-street parking

28:16for a term of 1 year.

28:18>> I'll second.

28:19>> Okay.

28:20>> We have a motion and a second. Cast your

28:22votes.

28:27You're approved.

28:29>> Thank you.

28:30>> Item number seven, case number 16359.

28:34It's an application by James Barnum to

28:36allow home sharing

28:37located at 218 Northwest 28th Street.

28:49>> Uh

28:49James Varnum 218 Northwest 28th Street.

28:55>> [clears throat]

29:01>> I don't have anybody signed up on this

29:03one. Does anyone want to address the

29:06board on this application?

29:11>> Um question for staff did the HP

29:14commission

29:15ever get

29:17to this?

29:19Did HP get to this one?

29:22>> Uh actually okay, sorry. Sarah Welch

29:24planning department. So the meeting was

29:26scheduled for

29:27uh last week I believe and it was

29:30canceled due to lack of quorum. They've

29:32called a special meeting which is

29:34scheduled for tomorrow.

29:35>> Okay, so it hadn't happened yet.

29:38>> But if we were to defer then it would

29:41hold him up until November 5th.

29:43>> Yeah, I I think I'd rather see us maybe

29:46put a just a

29:48that you wouldn't write the board order

29:49if they HP decided to not approve it.

29:54Can we

29:56>> Right, we're hoping that you would be

29:57able to and I guess I'll look to the

29:59chair of the

30:00um

30:01approve it contingent upon a

30:03recommendation of approval at HP

30:05tomorrow.

30:07>> Yeah.

30:07>> Okay.

30:18>> So

30:19um

30:23I looked up in the county it says it's a

30:24three bed one bath.

30:26Is that correct?

30:28>> Um I

30:30I do think that's what it says. That's

30:32from like

30:33I don't know

30:3550 years ago or something but

30:38um

30:39yeah.

30:40>> Cuz you wrote down that it's a it's a

30:42four four bed or just number of rooms

30:44offered are four.

30:46>> Yeah.

30:47>> So,

30:49is it a four bedroom home?

30:50>> Yeah.

30:51>> One bath?

30:52>> Um no, there's more than one bath, yeah.

31:02>> Is it your home or are you managing it?

31:04>> It's fine.

31:08>> Was there a remodel at some point?

31:10>> Um

31:13not in the la- I mean

31:15that's been

31:16maybe 20 years or almost 20 years, yeah.

31:21>> But no remodel that you're aware of that

31:23would have converted to a four bedroom?

31:27>> Um I mean, I think

31:30the room has always been there. I mean,

31:31I don't know when they did it. I mean,

31:32it's like a

31:35por- you know, it's

31:37it looks like it has been an add-on, but

31:39that was again probably

31:42you know, 50 years ago or something.

31:45>> How long have you owned the home?

31:48>> Uh

31:49maybe 15 years or almost more than

31:53more than that, probably.

31:5820

31:592000

32:008. Yeah, 2015 years.

32:15>> What what

32:17What level of occupancy did we grant you

32:19on a previous application?

32:23>> I think it was for eight.

32:59>> I'd like to make a revision to the quiet

33:01hours, 9:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m.

33:03>> You have You have 10 to

33:05>> 10 to 8.

33:14And you have a four-car maximum, and I

33:17would like to add that no on-street

33:18parking to that.

33:22Now, we're just trying to find out

33:25if we can find it anywhere to say a

33:27four-bedroom.

33:27>> Yeah, I I and I don't have anything it I

33:30don't have any documentation to show

33:31four-bedroom. If you have it,

33:33I'm happy to continue to bring it back

33:35to give you that, but without it, it'd

33:37be capped at seven for me.

33:40>> I'm okay capping it. That's fine for

33:43now, and I you know, maybe I could get

33:44with the county and get it revised or

33:47something.

33:48>> Okay.

33:49The And seven would would be where I

33:51would be also on that.

33:54Okay. Good.

33:56Okay.

33:57Then, I will make a motion to approve

34:00case number 16-359

34:02on the basis that it meets the statutory

34:04requirement for the set set exception

34:07with a maximum number of guests to be

34:09seven,

34:10quiet hours from 9:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m.,

34:13and no on-street parking.

34:16>> I'll second.

34:17>> Okay, we have a motion and a second.

34:26Okay, ask your residents.

34:35>> You're approved.

34:37>> Thank you.

34:40>> Item number eight, case number 16363 is

34:43an application

34:44by Jeremy Hall on behalf of John Teaford

34:46to allow home sharing

34:48located at 11516 Wallace Avenue.

34:53>> Yep, Jeremy Hall, Hall Enterprises. It's

34:56a new license request, three bedroom,

34:58two bath house.

35:01Sleeps six, we kept it pretty simple.

35:06>> No one signed up to speak on this one.

35:09Somebody wants to address the board,

35:11come on up to

35:13podium, please.

35:26>> [clears throat]

35:26>> Good afternoon, members of the board.

35:28>> Give us your name and address.

35:30>> My name is Charlie Thompson. I'm here on

35:32behalf of Ruth Thompson who lives at

35:351600

35:37Wallace Avenue, next door to the

35:39property at issue.

35:43>> Go ahead.

35:45>> Shall I proceed?

35:46>> Mhm.

35:47>> Yes, please.

35:48>> Yes, sir.

35:49Um

35:52uh Ruth Thompson, uh I happen to be her

35:54grandson. She asked me to be here.

35:57Um

35:59basically, uh ladies and gentlemen, she

36:01is 93 years of age. Um

36:04and she's lived there for over 40 years.

36:07Um

36:09I um she's she was one of the first

36:11residents of that addition. I I remember

36:13as a

36:14child uh five

36:16um being taken out to the construction

36:19site. Um

36:21and during that time, she has cultivated

36:24relationships, long-term meaningful

36:26relationships with her neighbors

36:28um over the last 40 years.

36:31Uh I can tell you that she is uh very

36:34upset about the prospect of a revolving

36:37door of strangers

36:39um in the house next to her. It's uh

36:41causing her a great deal of stress

36:44uh nervousness, anxiety um

36:47and uh she's

36:49she fears for her safety. Um

36:53and um

36:55in support of this uh she is um

36:57requesting that this application be

36:59denied.

37:00And in support of this uh I would like

37:02to cite um

37:04paragraph seven uh of the plat

37:06restriction on this uh in this addition.

37:10Uh this is from book 5076.

37:13Uh the document begins on page 864.

37:17And I'm citing paragraph seven that's

37:18found on page 865.

37:21No building or structure of any sort may

37:24ever be placed, erected, or used for

37:27church, business, professional, trade or

37:31commercial, town, or municipal purposes

37:35on any portion of any lot or block in

37:38the heretofore described property.

37:41And um

37:43she would respectfully request that the

37:44application be denied.

37:47>> Questions from the board?

37:50Comments?

37:52So, I'll just say there Marcus, you can

37:54do it either, but so

37:56we've been directed as

38:00for the notes on the deed that if it

38:02doesn't actually say short-term

38:06lease that we cannot use that per se as

38:12reason for denial.

38:14>> I understand.

38:15>> So, the business or commercial

38:18they consider the short-term

38:20special exception to be a residential

38:22use.

38:24>> Yes, sir. I understand.

38:29>> Is there anyone else who wants to

38:31address the board on this one?

38:35>> And I will say that Mr. Isles got

38:37multiple

38:38He manages multiple special exceptions

38:41within the city. And he does a very good

38:43job of managing it.

38:45Get with him, have his contact

38:46information so that you can communicate

38:49if there was a ever any problems at the

38:51location.

38:53>> Very well. Um

38:55Uh I've been listening uh to the

38:57proceedings. Um we would request um

39:00no on-street parking etc. similar

39:03restrictions to what you were

39:05um laying out for some of the other

39:07properties.

39:08>> Okay.

39:14>> So

39:15do give him your information. That would

39:16help. Um

39:18And then on the application you did say

39:20it was a three-bedroom, two-bath.

39:22>> Yes, yes, sir.

39:23>> And the maximum number of guests you

39:24were seeking was six.

39:26>> Yep.

39:26Or I can do the plus one or anything.

39:28>> And I would like to do

39:31uh

39:32to revise the quiet hours 9:00 p.m. to

39:338:00 a.m.

39:35>> I think it's 8:00 p.m. now.

39:37I changed it today.

39:38>> Oh, okay.

39:39>> I always get docked with that. So I

39:40double-checked it.

39:41>> 8:00 p.m.

39:42>> Yeah, we're at 8:00 to 7:00 a.m. now.

39:43>> Okay. We'll go 8:00 8:00 to

39:45>> Yep.

39:46>> 8:00.

39:48Um

39:50And then maximum number of vehicles

39:54>> It's a two-car garage, but

39:55>> And we'll just say four cuz four can fit

39:57in the drive. So

39:58>> Yes, sir.

39:58>> You can go two in, two out or however,

40:00but and then no on-street parking.

40:02>> Right.

40:09>> Good.

40:10>> Mhm.

40:10>> Then I will make a motion to approve

40:12case number 16 363

40:15on the basis that it meets the statutory

40:17requirement for the special exception

40:20with the revision of quiet hours from

40:218:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m.

40:25No on-street parking.

40:27And the term's 1 year.

40:30>> I'll second.

40:31>> Okay, we have a motion and a second.

40:37Cast your votes.

40:40You're approved.

40:45>> Item number nine, case number 16365.

40:49It's an application by Jeremy Hall to

40:50allow home sharing at 59 17 Southeast

40:5478th Street.

40:56>> It's the same setup, just different

40:57address. Three bedroom, two bath, two in

40:59the garage.

41:03>> No one signed up to speak on this one.

41:07Is there anyone who wants to address the

41:09board on this application?

41:12Okay.

41:15From the board?

41:16>> So, on this one they

41:19you did have a protester.

41:21A written protest. Did you see this?

41:22>> I did not.

41:24>> You're going to find this one more

41:25interesting.

41:26So, the CC&Rs on this do say

41:31that there has to be a minimum of 30-day

41:34rental period.

41:36>> With the neighborhood?

41:37Okay.

41:39That's what I'm doing now, so.

41:41>> Okay. You don't need a special exception

41:43for that.

41:43>> Right. So, we don't need a license for

41:45this. We just do a 30-day stay.

41:47>> Correct.

41:49>> Say that again.

41:50>> You don't need a special exception if

41:51you're doing 30-day plus.

41:53>> Well, I don't think you need the license

41:55either.

41:56>> You do need a license.

41:57>> You need a license?

41:59Even for 30-day stays?

42:01>> Anyways, Jeremy, you can get with them

42:03and they'll they'll get that. But

42:05because this neighborhood does have it

42:07written in the CC&Rs

42:10that I'm I mean, just for me, but I'm

42:12going to go with that.

42:14>> No, that's fine.

42:19>> And they'll get you a copy of that.

42:22>> I trust you.

42:43>> Good.

42:43>> Yeah, ready for a motion.

42:45>> What If he withdraws, he gets his money

42:47back, right?

42:49Or a portion of it?

42:50>> technically, no, for the Board of

42:51Adjustment. If it's been noticed, you

42:52don't. So, if there's a exception here

42:55where

42:56we didn't Nobody realized that it wasn't

42:58needed, we could we could request a

43:00refund.

43:02But are we sure we don't need it? So,

43:04you're not going to home share less than

43:0530 days.

43:06>> Yeah, we'll just stick with 30 days

43:07days. I have no problem with that. It's

43:08been booked with that anyway, so.

43:12>> Okay, so if you're According to our

43:14ordinance, if you're more than 30 days,

43:16you're not home sharing or short-term

43:17rental. So, you don't need to come

43:19through us, and you don't need really

43:20even need the license, so

43:23we just can't I can't guarantee on the

43:24spot you're going to get your money

43:25back.

43:26>> [laughter]

43:30>> So, it's worth withdrawing it?

43:31>> So, we'll withdraw it.

43:33Right?

43:33>> If you're absolutely sure, you're going

43:35to then go ahead and withdraw.

43:36>> I mean, if I can't get less than 30 days

43:38days, there's no point.

43:39>> I mean, you can see if you can.

43:43>> Yeah, no, I wasn't aware of the neighbor

43:44thing, so I don't really have any

43:46you know, if I had it really up to me.

43:49I would like less than 30, obviously,

43:50but if that's the rules, that's the

43:52rules.

43:53>> Yeah, for me, once once this actually uh

43:57updated and recorded in the the CCRs, I

44:01I'm going to to support that, simply

44:03because it's a private agreement among

44:04neighbors. I don't think that the city

44:06has any business um

44:08getting in between uh private

44:10contractual agreements.

44:11>> Yeah, that's fine.

44:14>> I I would agree with that and note that

44:18it says that the revised documents

44:21were enacted September 30th 2025. So,

44:25>> It was before I applied, yes.

44:26>> Yeah, it was

44:28It's in there. It's very clear.

44:30>> I'm with that.

44:32So, let's let's go ahead and withdraw

44:33mine then, I guess.

44:35We'll go with that.

44:40>> Okay.

44:40>> Good.

44:42So, I will make a motion to withdraw

44:44case number 16365.

44:47>> Wait, do we don't We don't He would just

44:50>> Okay.

44:52So, no motion then.

44:52>> I withdraw.

44:54>> [laughter]

44:55>> And then we don't take any action.

44:56>> Okay.

44:57>> Yeah.

44:58>> We're good?

44:59>> Yeah.

45:00>> Cool.

45:01>> All right.

45:01>> All right.

45:01>> Yes, just this item has been withdrawn.

45:03>> Okay.

45:04>> For the record, okay.

45:05>> All right.

45:06>> All right. Thank you.

45:10>> Item number 10, case number 16374 is an

45:13application by Alyssa Dyer of Table

45:16Property Management on behalf of Tonya

45:18Turner and Heather Turner to allow home

45:20sharing 1127 Northwest 38th Street.

45:25>> Hi there. My name is Alyssa Dyer. I'm

45:27here to get approval to make this thing

45:30a short-term rental.

45:35>> Okay, nobody signed up to speak on this

45:37one. Is there anybody who wants to

45:39address the board on this application?

45:43Okay.

45:49>> So, is is this a duplex?

45:50>> Mhm.

45:51>> Okay.

45:53Two beds?

45:54>> Mhm.

46:00>> Is it one bedroom each side?

46:01>> Mhm.

46:02>> Okay.

46:05So you're asking for a maximum of two

46:06guests?

46:07>> Yes. [clears throat]

46:08>> Like to revise the quiet hours. It says

46:1010:00 to 8:00. I'd make them 9:00 to

46:118:00.

46:12>> Okay.

46:13>> Maximum number of vehicles to be two.

46:16>> Okay.

46:16>> And no on-street parking. And the term

46:19is 1 year.

46:19>> Okay.

46:20>> Good with all that?

46:23Everyone good?

46:24>> Mhm.

46:25>> I will make a motion to approve case

46:27number 16-374 on the basis that it meets

46:30the statutory requirement for special

46:32exception

46:33with the modifications to quiet hours of

46:369:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m.

46:38Maximum number of vehicles be two. No

46:39on-street parking for a term of 1 year.

46:42>> I'll second.

46:43>> We have a motion and a second. Cast your

46:45votes.

46:48You're approved.

46:49>> Thank you all.

46:52>> I'm number 11, case number 16-375 is an

46:55application by William Burleson of VRBO

46:58HomeAway on behalf of Kelly Fasterling

47:01to allow home sharing 10320 Lightning

47:04Creek Drive.

47:06>> William Burleson, 3000 East Britain. Um

47:09seeking a special exception for home

47:11sharing for 10320 Lightning Creek Drive

47:14on behalf of Kelly Fasterling. Um this

47:17application was uh I brought this last

47:21year August 21st. Um it was denied as we

47:25had used it as a short-term rental

47:27prior.

47:28Um at that time you told us uh it would

47:30need to be 30-day minimum for a year, um

47:32which we immediately um put it as that.

47:36Um so I applied for it again um August

47:3921st of this year.

47:41Um since that time it was denied, uh

47:43we've had three

47:45um tenants stay there um

47:48starting August 27th, 2025 to April

47:5130th, 2026.

47:53Uh 246 nights.

47:55May 3rd uh to July 31st.

47:5989 nights.

48:01And then it's currently being uh rented

48:03September 16th through November 17th for

48:0562 nights. Um those are the only people

48:08who have been there. I know there was a

48:09complaint that said there's people

48:10coming and going. Um

48:13that's uh

48:15They might have been coming and going,

48:16but they were part of these rentals that

48:18were uh

48:19midterm. Um

48:22that's that's really all I have right

48:24now.

48:26>> Okay.

48:27I've got one signed up.

48:29Mark

48:30Cortel?

48:33>> Well, how many tenants did you say spent

48:35the last year there?

48:36>> Oh oh wait, address the board. Give us

48:38your name and address.

48:39>> Good afternoon, board. My name is Mark

48:41Cortel. I live next door

48:43>> Okay.

48:43>> 10324

48:45Lightning Creek Drive.

48:46>> Okay.

48:47>> And may I ask you one question for

48:49clarification? Okay.

48:51Uh

48:52what did you understand the number of

48:54tenants that spent the year at that

48:57residence?

48:58Three?

48:59>> Three is what I heard.

48:59>> Well, I will not call a man

49:03untruthful,

49:05but I've been four families that spent

49:08there

49:09and a few short-term,

49:11about a week, week and a half

49:14during this past year.

49:16And there is somebody that just left uh

49:18I believe they left last night or just

49:21this morning.

49:25So,

49:26there has been violations. There has

49:29been

49:30on-street parking. We had one family

49:33that was there because they were waiting

49:35to have find another residence.

49:38They had a pickup truck. Mom had the

49:41company car, her private car, son had a

49:44pickup truck, and another son had a

49:46pickup truck. Nine times out of 10, the

49:49pickup trucks were in the street.

49:51We had one family that was there on

49:54Memorial Day weekend. They had

49:57a family get-together.

50:00I counted six cars at that time. So, I

50:02didn't count how many people were in

50:04there.

50:05>> So, let let me just say this to you. He

50:07was operating on long-term lease and we

50:09have no purview over that. He can have

50:11as many cars as he wanted and he can

50:13have as many people as he wanted.

50:14>> Okay. Okay.

50:16I

50:17I was unclear. I still thought he was

50:19supposed to stay

50:21the long-term lease. Short-term lease is

50:231 week, 10 days?

50:25>> 1 day.

50:27Or so, any anything between 1 day and

50:30less than 30 days.

50:31>> Oh, there's been less than 30 days.

50:34People but like I said, there's been

50:35more than three tenants there in the

50:37last

50:38>> You were saying there was four.

50:40>> Pardon?

50:40>> You were saying there was four tenants.

50:42>> Four, five, six.

50:45>> [snorts]

50:46>> I remember one clearly cuz he had one

50:48neat boxer that he parked in the garage.

50:51When he fired that baby up, it just

50:53rumbled.

50:59>> We'll we'll get the rental history from

51:01our

51:02We'll look at the rental history from

51:03the last year with with the software

51:05that we have the capability.

51:07>> I'm

51:08I'm strictly against it because I do

51:10come suffer from

51:12post-traumatic stress from my service

51:14and the revolving door syndrome

51:18puts my dogs

51:20on nerve. When my dogs start barking at

51:22night, I get up to check my perimeter.

51:24And with the one family with the teenage

51:27sons,

51:28they were in and out at all god-given

51:30hours. All right?

51:32He changed oil in the street.

51:34I walked across the street and I was a

51:36little rough, I'll admit. I said, "Son,

51:38we do not do this in the street. We do

51:41it

51:43in our driveway or in our garage. We

51:45don't work on our cars in the street.

51:48Well, he was from the back hill

51:49someplace. Well, it didn't matter where

51:51he worked at.

51:52Now, there's been some good people

51:54there, some people I've talked to.

51:56One of the last groups we had were five

51:59men that worked for an alarm company.

52:01I see hello, goodbye, but still again,

52:05they were parking their stuff on the

52:07street.

52:08There was five people in there, but I

52:10don't understand with this that you've

52:12clarified it that he was on a long-term

52:15lease, you can rent it for wherever you

52:17want it.

52:18Uh no short-term lease.

52:21>> Yeah, and so today he's asking for the

52:23short-term lease and a special

52:24exception. And with said special

52:27exception, I will put

52:29parameters

52:31like you've heard all day on that

52:32special exception.

52:34So, if he violates those, then

52:37you'll you'll have to come back and and

52:40within a year when he reapplies.

52:42>> That was your last year.

52:43>> Yeah. So, and and like I said, if he

52:46doesn't follow the rules, then

52:49but right now he's not under those

52:51rules.

52:51>> I I don't know how I'd actually call

52:52that

52:53because I like people, but if they're

52:55not the kind of people I want to live in

52:57next door, I don't want them next to me.

52:59I've got grandkids in and out. There's

53:00plenty of kids up and down the street

53:02that live in the area. My house is

53:04directly across the street from the

53:06playground. There are kids there all the

53:07time

53:08playing.

53:11>> Mhm. Do you have his contact

53:12information?

53:14Do you have his contact information?

53:16>> I I don't have his contact information,

53:18but I do have the telephone number of

53:19his company.

53:21>> Okay. Well, again, he's he operates a

53:23lot of short-term leases in in Oklahoma

53:25City. And he knows the parameters and

53:29and he he does a good job elsewhere, so.

53:35Yeah, come on up.

53:40>> Okay.

53:40>> Oh, step up to the podium to the back.

53:42>> My name is Dona Andrews. I live in the

53:50>> 103 16 Lightning Creek Drive.

53:57I am to the

53:59south of this house.

54:02Trash cans are parked up on the side of

54:04the house.

54:07The people who have had them there,

54:09they have no respect

54:11for property.

54:13We have picking our trash out of our

54:15yard, out of my flower bed.

54:19I've had pickup trucks

54:22block my mailbox.

54:24I've gone over and asked them to not

54:27block my mailbox. I said, "Okay." Well,

54:31the next day, they're right back in

54:32front of the mailbox.

54:34I've got pictures where they had six

54:36cars, four in the street, two in the

54:38driveway. And Well, no, they're They had

54:41two in the garage, two in the driveway,

54:42and three or four in the street.

54:45I mean,

54:47our HOA prohibits overnight parking in

54:50the street.

54:52It prohibits working on cars

54:56in

54:57view of

54:59anybody

55:01anywhere. I mean, you can't repair cars

55:04in your in your driveway. You're

55:06supposed to use your garage where nobody

55:08can see you. You can't work on your cars

55:10in the street.

55:12That is in our bylaws of our HOA.

55:16And to me,

55:19they have not been responsible enough to

55:21instruct their renters that there is an

55:24HOA that they need to follow

55:27if they're going to rent it to them.

55:30They need to make sure they're going to

55:31follow the HOA rules.

55:33The rest of us have to follow them.

55:36They should have to follow them.

55:38But they had no concern for the rules.

55:41They're They don't have no quiet time

55:44because they'll be out there working on

55:46cars and making noise. My bedroom is

55:49right next to that Oh, excuse me. That

55:51house. So, I can hear the noise and the

55:55They're partying in the backyard at 1:00

55:58or 2:00 in the morning.

56:01So,

56:02I can't

56:04can't sleep.

56:05So, it's just It's very disturbing.

56:08>> And let me just say say this, if if we

56:10grant him a special exception today and

56:12we put the parameters on them that we

56:15put on most of these special exceptions,

56:18that if he operates outside of those

56:20special those parameters, you call

56:23>> I called the police.

56:25>> They will

56:26There was no So, it's a long-term lease.

56:29There were no rules.

56:31Now there will be rules if he gets a

56:33special exception. If he doesn't follow

56:35through, he breaks the rules, they'll

56:37write him a ticket, we will be notified,

56:39and he won't get a special exception.

56:41So, possibly having a special exception

56:44and a short-term lease will make this a

56:45better property for you.

56:48And he's hearing every single thing you

56:50said, and I know that he'll take care of

56:52it and vet these people as best he can.

56:55>> I mean, cuz we have little kids across

56:56the street. I have a granddaughter

56:58that's 6 years old.

57:00I want to know who's living next door to

57:02me, and that I don't have to worry if my

57:05little granddaughter wants to ride her

57:06bike

57:07in the front up and down the sidewalk.

57:10And there's other kids on the street.

57:13There's

57:14six families on the street that have

57:15kids that ride their bikes and play up

57:18and down the sidewalk and over at the

57:20park.

57:22The tenants they have had in there have

57:24had no respect for the speed limit.

57:28My husband has had to stop them several

57:30times to tell them to slow down. It's

57:33not a racetrack.

57:36And they still

57:38They don't

57:39These people

57:41They're

57:42Some of the

57:43people they've had in there that were

57:45short-term, they worked like for

57:48Walmart, they come in, put shelves up,

57:51and they're gone.

57:52So, they're only there two or three.

57:54They may have rented it They may say

57:56they rented it for 30 days, they weren't

57:58there 30 days.

58:04And

58:05there had been more than I think he said

58:08three They did three rentals. There had

58:10been more than three changes in that

58:12house in the last year.

58:17So,

58:18and I sent an email and I sent pictures

58:22of the trash,

58:24the

58:26their maintenance or whatever they are

58:28that come in and clean after after

58:30somebody leaves. They have

58:33I don't know what they do. They didn't

58:35do anything with the trash and I'm in

58:37the trash can. It stayed overflowing for

58:406 weeks

58:42till I think Mark had finally put it

58:44out.

58:47So, I mean, and all I can do is get the

58:50trash in my yard.

58:52And we have to consistently pick it up.

58:54And it's frustrating.

58:58So,

58:59>> One other side comment, I don't know

59:01last year you said you were going to go

59:02out and look at the property to see if

59:04it's been maintained.

59:07It has not been maintained. You got

59:09weeds growing in the flower beds. You've

59:12got weeds growing where the lawn should

59:14be and dead grass.

59:16Uh

59:17>> There isn't a grass

59:18>> And last year he said it was maintained

59:20and if you went out and you saw that it

59:23has not been maintained.

59:25Uh the most rain it's water it's gotten

59:27in in the last year has probably been

59:29the last 2 days.

59:31Any other day we got a sprinkle. But

59:34it's never been watered or or taken care

59:36of.

59:38So, that's just making the neighborhood

59:39look like trash, which

59:42I've always taken pride in my property

59:44and my yard. I'm 71 years old and I

59:46still mow my yard.

59:49And

59:50still fix my own vehicles, too, in my

59:52garage, not in the street.

59:54>> Sounds like a lot of HOA

59:57questions and and concerns, and I would

1:00:01definitely suggest you work through that

1:00:03for those individuals.

1:00:04>> Yes.

1:00:05>> There is supposed to be a tree

1:00:08in the

1:00:09one tree, at least

1:00:11>> Mhm.

1:00:11>> Everybody has to pay supposed to have

1:00:13more than one tree, but we

1:00:14everybody's just got one tree.

1:00:17>> It died.

1:00:18But, you know,

1:00:19>> Yeah, there's but it's never been

1:00:20replaced.

1:00:21>> It died before

1:00:23>> Trash cans.

1:00:24>> You're not supposed to be able to see

1:00:26the trash cans. You're supposed to

1:00:27either be kept in your garage or behind

1:00:28a fence.

1:00:29But there's are in full view. You can

1:00:32see them in the picture.

1:00:34In the picture I sent, where the trash

1:00:36is just overflowing, and that's where

1:00:39they leave it.

1:00:39>> When was that picture taken? That must

1:00:41have been color proof.

1:00:42>> When that we didn't take that, somebody

1:00:44else took that. That's a long time ago,

1:00:46because I got stuff that don't look like

1:00:48that.

1:00:48>> I didn't know.

1:00:49>> [laughter]

1:00:50>> That's like to color touch somebody

1:00:52touch it.

1:00:53Touched up that picture.

1:00:54>> Yeah.

1:00:55And the Google Earth picture, they're on

1:00:56there and and Zillow, they're also on

1:00:58there, so

1:00:59like I said, the

1:01:01the managers hearing every single thing

1:01:03you guys had to say. And

1:01:06I'm hoping that the if if granted a

1:01:09short-term exception, that it'll be

1:01:11operated in a lot better fashion than it

1:01:13was operated as a long-term lease.

1:01:18And that's all I can I I hope for.

1:01:21And I will rely on the neighbors and you

1:01:24guys to come back in in a year

1:01:27or or follow

1:01:28up with with the

1:01:30>> You know, I have my pictures and

1:01:32>> Mhm.

1:01:32>> everything to prove that they haven't

1:01:36>> Yeah, that helps. It goes goes a long

1:01:38ways.

1:01:39>> [snorts]

1:01:40>> I mean

1:01:42what is this house going to be limited

1:01:43to as far as cars?

1:01:49>> Um if he agrees, three.

1:01:52>> Three?

1:01:52>> No on-street parking in three.

1:01:55>> Okay.

1:01:57And they Nobody's never said Nobody's

1:01:59ever had three cars. They've always had

1:02:01more.

1:02:02Five, six cars.

1:02:03>> Yep.

1:02:04>> And they park

1:02:05>> Like I said, hopefully it'll be operated

1:02:06much better as a special exception in a

1:02:08short-term lease.

1:02:09>> I just want to quit making parking by my

1:02:11by my mailbox. I can't get my mail.

1:02:14And you know, I've told told them and

1:02:16they just

1:02:17>> Yeah, and and you also said that they

1:02:18your HOA doesn't allow off-street

1:02:20parking, right?

1:02:21>> Pardon?

1:02:22>> Your HOA doesn't allow it.

1:02:23>> HOA says no no no overnight parking in

1:02:27the street.

1:02:28>> So

1:02:28>> Oh, shoot.

1:02:29>> Just work with them.

1:02:31Right?

1:02:31>> Uh they park them overnight. It

1:02:33>> No, I'm just saying work with the HOA,

1:02:36get that taken care of through them, let

1:02:37them fine them, do whatever they need to

1:02:39do, and I mean you got to do something.

1:02:42>> Uh

1:02:43our HOA doesn't

1:02:46enforce

1:02:47the the deal. So, I can complain about

1:02:51it, but they don't

1:02:52>> Run for president.

1:02:53>> Yeah.

1:02:54I've told the president.

1:02:57And

1:02:58I've told him we needed to get this in

1:02:59our bylaws, and he said, "Well, you take

1:03:01care of it."

1:03:02I said,

1:03:03"This isn't my job."

1:03:06>> One question, how many violations does

1:03:08it take to have their special

1:03:10approval withdrawn?

1:03:12>> One. I mean, it's up to us.

1:03:15I mean

1:03:15so.

1:03:16>> You know,

1:03:17let's say they've got

1:03:18>> I mean it'd be it'd be it'd be a

1:03:20renewal, right? For us it'd just be a

1:03:22renewal. They they wouldn't pull the

1:03:24special exception.

1:03:25>> So do you not pull it during the year?

1:03:27>> I mean it'd have to be very egregious

1:03:29for something like that to actually have

1:03:31happened and that would be done by a

1:03:32district judge.

1:03:33>> That's understandable. Okay.

1:03:35>> We're we're just the panel that would

1:03:36renew.

1:03:37>> Okay. So if this short-term rental goes

1:03:40through

1:03:45they can just rent it for a party for 20

1:03:47people.

1:03:48>> No.

1:03:49Maximum number of people will be in this

1:03:51house would be

1:03:53it's a four-bedroom home. For me it'd be

1:03:54nine people. Any more than nine it'd be

1:03:57outside the purview or the

1:03:59the guardrails that we put on it.

1:04:04>> There may be nine people see

1:04:06we had somebody live there that had

1:04:08family.

1:04:09>> Nine people maximum.

1:04:10>> That came over to visit. So they took up

1:04:14the whole street and the garage and you

1:04:16know

1:04:18>> Pictures. That's all I can do tell you.

1:04:21Pictures and documentation.

1:04:23What he'd done in the last year

1:04:25long-term leases we can't control.

1:04:28>> but so I believe me I will document it.

1:04:32I I will document it all of it if it's

1:04:36not done right.

1:04:38>> Okay.

1:04:39>> Thank you.

1:04:45>> Are are you able to verify um what I

1:04:48said earlier?

1:04:49>> Um I am. I see three different rentals

1:04:53on the platform that were all 30 days

1:04:55and Airbnb it's currently advertised for

1:04:57a 30-day plus.

1:04:59I was going to tell our neighbors too

1:05:01there's a we have I don't know if this

1:05:03is I think it's new from last year but

1:05:04we do have a online tool specific for

1:05:08home sharing complaint. You can go to

1:05:10um www.okc.gov/str

1:05:15like short-term rental and you can log

1:05:17as a very specific home sharing

1:05:19complaint anytime a day.

1:05:25>> Yes, so we'll, you know, definitely

1:05:27abide by no street parking.

1:05:29We'll We typically use a trash valet

1:05:32service. I don't have to check if we

1:05:34have not been doing it on this one, but

1:05:35we will that they'll move Make sure the

1:05:37trash cans are moved in the backyard or

1:05:40in the garage.

1:05:42You know, obviously we'll follow all

1:05:43these rules, but also HOA rules.

1:05:47So we'll We'll look into that and make

1:05:49sure,

1:05:50you know, it's a good year for the

1:05:52neighborhood and, you know, we want to

1:05:53be a good partner

1:05:54with the neighborhood. So

1:05:58you know, I'll give you my information.

1:06:07>> You guys will have to have this

1:06:08conversation.

1:06:08>> Okay, sorry.

1:06:09>> Yes.

1:06:10>> have to address this.

1:06:13>> Oh, we'll say sorry. Um

1:06:16I'll go down to three cars, but I mean

1:06:18in the past

1:06:19>> outside. We'll talk about that.

1:06:21>> Okay.

1:06:23>> The garage use it.

1:06:24>> Okay.

1:06:25>> Nobody else signed up.

1:06:27Anyone else want to address the board on

1:06:29this application?

1:06:32>> Okay.

1:06:34>> Okay. So

1:06:36on the application is a It's four

1:06:38bedroom home, two bath.

1:06:42Right?

1:06:42>> Yeah, yes, sir.

1:06:45>> Has it always been a four bedroom home?

1:06:46Cuz when I looked up the county, it was

1:06:48a three three bed. So

1:06:51>> Yeah, I think we had the same thing come

1:06:54up last year. I mean we have four beds

1:06:56in the in the house. One

1:06:58you know, might have been used for

1:07:00office in the past. I don't know, but we

1:07:02have it set up as four bedroom.

1:07:05>> It's not a security issue.

1:07:06And

1:07:08Zillow's got a four, too. So.

1:07:11>> Is I'll ask the same thing I asked

1:07:13previously. Do you have a a remodel

1:07:15record of converting it from a

1:07:16three-bedroom to a four-bedroom?

1:07:18>> Um no, I don't.

1:07:20>> Would you be opposed to reducing the max

1:07:22occupancy down to seven?

1:07:24>> No.

1:07:24>> Okay, then that is fine then.

1:07:26>> Yeah, that makes it a lot easier.

1:07:31>> Um

1:07:34>> Quiet hours 9:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. Good

1:07:36with that?

1:07:37>> Yes.

1:07:38>> And so on the on the

1:07:40maximum number of vehicles, I know it's

1:07:42a three-car garage. Is it empty? So they

1:07:45can put three in it?

1:07:46>> Mhm.

1:07:47>> So I will say you can have up to six

1:07:49cars, but you have to have three in the

1:07:51garage and three in the drive.

1:07:53>> Okay, yeah. Well yeah,

1:07:55um

1:07:55>> And that's all you can fit anyways cuz

1:07:57there's no on-street [clears throat]

1:07:57parking.

1:07:58>> fine.

1:08:03>> And then the term would be 1 year.

1:08:08>> Okay.

1:08:09>> Ready for a motion.

1:08:11>> You good with all those?

1:08:13>> Uh yes, sir.

1:08:14>> Then I will make a motion to

1:08:17approve case number

1:08:1916375

1:08:21on the basis that it meets the statutory

1:08:23requirement for the special exception

1:08:25with a maximum number of guests to be

1:08:27seven, quiet hours from 9:00 p.m. to

1:08:308:00 a.m.,

1:08:31maximum number of vehicles to be six,

1:08:33three in the garage, three in the drive,

1:08:35no on-street parking for a term of 1

1:08:37year.

1:08:38>> I'll second.

1:08:39>> We have a motion and a second.

1:08:45Cast your votes.

1:08:48You're approved.

1:08:49>> Thank you.

1:08:51>> Item number 12, case number 16378 is an

1:08:54application by Alicia Chan to allow home

1:08:57sharing 1808 Northwest 30th Street.

1:09:01>> Hi everybody. My name is Alicia.

1:09:08>> Okay, and no one signed up to speak on

1:09:12this one and

1:09:15doesn't look like there's any left to

1:09:16speak on this one.

1:09:21>> So, on this one, this is your primary

1:09:23residence.

1:09:24>> Mhm.

1:09:24>> Right?

1:09:25>> Yeah.

1:09:25>> You You live there.

1:09:27>> Yeah. So, I have a nonprofit based in

1:09:29Edmond, Oklahoma, but I travel a lot. I

1:09:31have a school in Haiti. So, I go there

1:09:33quite a bit.

1:09:35So, I'd like to

1:09:37apply for the home sharing.

1:09:38>> It's listed as a four-bedroom home, two

1:09:40baths.

1:09:41>> Yep.

1:09:42>> So, for me, I'm only going to let you

1:09:45use three of the bedrooms, even though

1:09:47you're like

1:09:48cuz

1:09:50it is your primary residence.

1:09:52And I would go for a maximum guest

1:09:54number to be six.

1:09:56>> Okay.

1:09:59>> And I want to revise the quiet hours to

1:10:019:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m.

1:10:03>> Okay.

1:10:05>> And the term would be 1 year.

1:10:07>> Okay. So, instead of three, the renewal

1:10:09is a year within the year.

1:10:12>> Was this a renewal? Sorry.

1:10:14>> Just new.

1:10:15New.

1:10:16>> Yeah, it's

1:10:17It says it's new.

1:10:21>> Sorry.

1:10:21>> It says it's a new

1:10:23>> So, that would be 1 year.

1:10:24>> Yeah.

1:10:25Not a renewal. On the renewal, you get

1:10:27up to three.

1:10:28>> Got it. Okay.

1:10:33>> And the maximum number of vehicles would

1:10:35be three.

1:10:36>> Three.

1:10:36>> Are you okay with that?

1:10:37>> Mhm. Yep.

1:10:38>> And no on-street parking.

1:10:40>> Yep.

1:10:49>> Good. Anything else?

1:10:56You get the special exception basically

1:10:57cuz it's 10 more than 10 nights is what

1:10:59you're looking for.

1:11:01Okay, I will then make a motion to

1:11:03approve case number 16378

1:11:06on the basis that it meets the statutory

1:11:07requirement for a special exception.

1:11:09Maximum number of guests to be six.

1:11:12Revise the quiet hours to 9:00 p.m. to

1:11:138:00 a.m.

1:11:15Maximum number of vehicles to be three.

1:11:17No on-street parking and the term's 1

1:11:18year.

1:11:20>> I'll second.

1:11:20>> Okay, we have a motion and a second.

1:11:24Cash, do you vote?

1:11:26You're approved.

1:11:27>> Thank you. Thank you, everybody.

1:11:32>> All right.

1:11:33I don't have any additional items. We

1:11:35don't have any board committees.

1:11:38Does anybody want to say something?

1:11:41You want to make speech?

1:11:43You're next.

1:11:45Uh

1:11:45citizens to be heard, doesn't look like

1:11:48it. I don't have any other business. I

1:11:50think we're adjourned.

1:11:53All right.