2026-10-26 - Committee on Public Works and Utilities

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  • Approved the September 21 minutes.
  • Easements and rights-of-way: recommended a release of a city drainage easement so restrictive covenants can be recorded first, then re-recorded; new drainage easements for city operations facility pipes and near Cumberland and Concord Streets; and notice to SCDOT that the city will accept maintenance of sidewalk along Waverly Drive.
  • Broad Street sidewalk repair: recommended a construction contract with Wildwood Contractors for phase one, from King Street past Meeting Street on the north side. Work removes and reuses bluestone, resets curbing, makes intersections ADA compliant, removes parking meters and runs power to tree wells for holiday lights. Phases two through six, around the full length to East Bay, will return with quotes. See Broad Street Sidewalk Repair.
  • Development Services: recommended a stormwater ordinance amendment adopting FEMA's definition of "functionally dependent use" and model variance procedure; a declaration of drainage and access easements for the Fire Station 23 parcel; and an easement and maintenance agreement for the common area around the One Vendue Range condominiums, which the city had repaired.
  • Building and permit fees: recommended new and revised fees to take effect January 1, 2027, projected to add about $1.8 million to the general fund. Encroachment and engineering permits rise from $25 to $100, the permit center application fee from $40 to $80, residential new-building and addition fees rise about 50%, and new fees are $200 for a map revision for fill and $350 for a commercial certificate of occupancy (cost analysis supported up to $600). Staff said the fees stay in line with Charleston County and Mount Pleasant. See 2027 Building and Permit Fee Changes.
  • Stormwater updates: a completed small project replaced two 18-inch pipes with 24-inch pipes in the Orleans Woods neighborhood of West Ashley using in-house crews; the work finished just before a storm in early October and the debris line showed no overtopping. The Army Corps selected a contractor for the MUSC pump station upfit, bid within budget, with work some months away. See Stormwater Projects Update.
  • Market Street: staff and the mayor described coordinating the next phase of drainage (inlets and larger pipes feeding the drop shafts) with undergrounding of power and communication lines, utility work and a new streetscape; renderings were promised at a coming meeting. See Market Street Drainage and Streetscape.
  • Orleans Road drainage (Dupont-Wappoo basin): recommended accepting $1 million in state funding for canal and drainage improvements. Design, permitting and bidding are done; a low-bid contractor is expected to come to council next month. See Stormwater Projects Update.
  • Newmarket Creek restoration: recommended a $380,000 professional services contract with Thomas and Hutton for conceptual options and preliminary design, funded by a $1 million National Fish and Wildlife Foundation grant. See Stormwater Projects Update.
  • Lake Dotterer: recommended a $28,700 amendment adding engineering support so city crews can build a first phase on Mariner's Ferry, funded by county ARPA money, with construction planned late this year. The council member for the area thanked staff for keeping the lake within its banks during a recent weather scare. See Lake Dotterer Drainage Easements.
  • Avondale Mall Drive drainage: recommended a $25,000 agreement with Charleston County for its consultant to size downstream drainage at the realigned Avondale intersection, so new county infrastructure is not undersized. The county has agreed in concept to fund correctly sized pipes and inlets. See Stormwater Projects Update.
  • FY27 stormwater small projects (discussion only): staff presented a tentative $2 million allocation, to be finalized with the budget. Members asked about a Neighbors Drive flooding concern tied to a town sidewalk project (about $125,000 placeholder) and Daniel Island curb and gutter repairs (about $75,000). Staff will send the list to all council members. See Stormwater Projects Update.
  • The full council took up items on 2026-10-27 - City Council.

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00:16And we are live streaming. We're just

00:20waiting for the mayor to join.

00:22>> Thank you, Madam Clerk.

00:24How's everybody doing?

00:27>> Good, Mr. Chairman. How are you doing?

00:30>> Yeah, I got a

00:32I got a clip of the Norris Sellers uh

00:35touchdown where he ran over that guy.

00:37>> Man, that was something.

00:40That's determination there, man.

00:42>> Man, there's a clip where he that comes

00:44from, you know, that little camera on

00:47the corner of the end zone, you know,

00:48that little

00:49that little thing they have.

00:52You know, right at the corner of each

00:53end zone.

00:54Uh and there's a camera in there, man.

00:56Have you seen that shot?

00:58>> I hadn't seen the one from that, no.

01:00>> I [clears throat] I I looked at that

01:01thing a dozen times. I still don't see

01:03how he got in that end zone, man.

01:05>> Mhm.

01:05>> One guy was holding on his leg. The

01:07second guy

01:08hit him and grabbed him.

01:10And boy,

01:12uh

01:12>> No.

01:13>> And he didn't go down. His

01:15forearm didn't go down.

01:18Well, I got to tell you uh

01:21that was a good one for us.

01:29Hey, Mark, I got it.

01:30>> The guy dropped it off.

01:31>> Oh, he did?

01:32>> Yeah.

01:33>> All right. Any problems?

01:34>> Yeah, the man, I I got to put some money

01:37to get rid of that thing.

01:39But I'm on it. I'm on a five

01:41five I'm on a Zoom. I'll be off of this

01:44in an hour. Okay, bye-bye.

01:56>> I had a different experience than South

01:57Carolina fans this weekend. So,

02:00>> [laughter]

02:02>> we went up to the Clemson game to see

02:04the kids and

02:05>> Oh, really? Oh, man.

02:06>> Yeah, I was rooting for you guys, man,

02:08but

02:09it's tough to watch, man. It's

02:11uh it is that is

02:12it is not fun to watch. It's

02:14>> Well, I got your defense actually played

02:16a pretty good game. It's just that they

02:18were on the field a lot.

02:19>> They did. Uh

02:21I mean, we I saw we had two passing

02:24touchdowns this year. The last one was

02:27North Carolina. I think that was

02:29it's over a month ago. We've had

02:31>> [laughter]

02:31>> We've had

02:32one passing That's not good. I mean, you

02:35>> So, y'all freshman guy got hurt, right?

02:38>> Yeah, but you know, I think it was

02:39questionable whether he was going to be

02:42you know,

02:42>> I was starting in that

02:43>> or whether he was, you know,

02:44I don't know.

02:47>> Mhm.

02:47>> Times have changed, that's for sure.

02:50>> [laughter]

02:51>> Well, listen, I'm going to root for

02:53y'all for the next 3 weeks.

02:55But, you know,

02:564 weeks from now, can't be can't be with

02:59you.

03:01>> My um you know, my kids they'll be home

03:03for uh

03:05get home for Thanksgiving and then uh

03:09they both got [clears throat] tickets to

03:10the South Carolina game at Clemson this

03:12year. So, they're leaving

03:14you know, the day after Thanksgiving.

03:16I'm like,

03:17y'all really want to do that? I mean,

03:19you know,

03:19>> So, the game is at Carolina this year?

03:21>> No, it's at No, it's at Clemson.

03:23>> Oh.

03:24>> And uh

03:25like, maybe maybe y'all want to just

03:27stay home for a few extra days. I'll

03:29I'll feed you.

03:29>> You know, don't take it don't take your

03:31kids out of life experience, man. What

03:32are you talking about?

03:34>> Yeah, you're right.

03:35>> The Mill's got some kids up there, too,

03:37right?

03:38>> Uh I think his daughter transferred. I

03:40think she she

03:41>> Yeah, she did. She She loved Clemson,

03:43but still big Clemson fan, but she went

03:46smaller.

03:47>> Oh, okay.

03:49All right. I think we're all up online

03:51now. Mr. Mayor for joining in.

03:53Uh Councilman Shealy, if you'd give a

03:55few words, I'd be very appreciative.

03:57>> Be happy to. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

04:00Let us pray. Our dear heavenly Father,

04:02we thank you for the blessings of this

04:03beautiful day, Lord. We hope that you

04:05will allow us to be a blessing to others

04:07as well. We thank you for allowing us to

04:09be here and to

04:11be a part of the greatest city there is,

04:13Lord. We thank you for the blessings

04:15that you blessed this city and we ask

04:17that you'll continue to bless our city

04:19staff, our residents, our visitors. And

04:22Lord, that you'll lead us tonight and

04:23allow our actions to be acceptable unto

04:25you. For it's in your holy and precious

04:27name we pray. Amen.

04:28>> Amen.

04:29Thank you, uh Councilman Shealy.

04:32Um

04:33See I'll entertain the approval of the

04:35minutes from September 21st, 2026

04:38meeting.

04:39>> Move for approval.

04:40>> moved and seconded. Any questions on

04:41those minutes? Hearing none, all in

04:43favor, would you please say I?

04:45>> I.

04:45>> I.

04:46>> Any opposed? Thank you. Acceptance. We

04:49We down to item E.

04:51Um so um

04:54item E1, acceptance and dedication of

04:56rights-of-way and easements.

04:58Release of the city drainage easement.

05:01Uh Mr. Bucci.

05:04>> Yes, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Um so this

05:06is the release of a city drainage

05:08easement just to make sure that we can

05:10record the restrictive covenants first.

05:13Um it's the process that the

05:15core requires. So once we record the

05:17restrictive covenants, we will then

05:19record the drainage easement again.

05:20>> Good. Good.

05:22Any questions of Mr. Bucci?

05:24What's the pleasure of the committee?

05:26>> Move for approval.

05:28>> Second.

05:28>> It's been moved and seconded. Any

05:30questions?

05:31>> And

05:33Mr. Chairman, who is the motion and

05:34second on that?

05:35>> Uh Councilman Shealy motion.

05:37>> Okay.

05:39>> I think it's the Councilman Gray who

05:40seconded.

05:41>> I'll second.

05:42>> All right. Thank you. [clears throat]

05:44>> All right. Any questions? All in favor,

05:47please say I.

05:48>> I.

05:48>> I.

05:48>> I.

05:49>> Any opposed? Item 2E,

05:52acceptance of a new variable

05:54with stormwater drainage. Mr. Bushy,

05:57that's you again.

05:58>> Yes, Mr. Chairman. So, this is just a

06:00traditional drainage easement for some

06:02stormwater pipes that are associated

06:04with the city operations facility.

06:06>> Okay.

06:09Motion?

06:10>> Move for approval.

06:11>> Second.

06:12>> Move and second. Any discussion? Hearing

06:14none, all in favor, please say I.

06:16>> I.

06:17>> Any opposed?

06:18Uh E3, acceptance of a stormwater

06:21drainage easement located in Cumberland

06:23and Concord Street.

06:26>> Yes, Mr. Chairman. It's me again.

06:29>> [laughter]

06:30>> So, this is another drainage easement

06:32near Fleet Landing,

06:34Cumberland and Concord, which was

06:35coordinated with the Department of

06:36Stormwater.

06:38>> Okay.

06:40Councilman Seekings, do you have a

06:42motion on that?

06:43>> Yeah, take it.

06:44>> Second.

06:45>> All right, move and second it. Hearing

06:47it, no questions. All in favor, please

06:50say I.

06:51>> I.

06:52>> Any opposed?

06:54Item E4, authorization

06:56to notify SCDOT that the city intends to

06:59accept maintenance. Oh, man. Go ahead.

07:02>> [laughter]

07:03>> Yes, Mr. Chairman. This is This is

07:05actually a little bit in coordination

07:06with the county as well. We've accepted

07:08maintenance for sidewalk up to this

07:11point and are continuing the sidewalk

07:13along Waverly Drive. That's within the

07:15DOT right away.

07:16>> Yeah, probably my emotions on that. They

07:19always

07:20motion. But anyway,

07:21um

07:23We have a motion?

07:25>> Move for approval.

07:26>> Second.

07:27>> Move and second it. Any questions? Any

07:29unreadiness? All in favor, E4, please

07:31say I.

07:32>> I.

07:33>> I.

07:34>> Any opposed? Thank you.

07:35Uh temporary encroachments usually this

07:37is put on for

07:39information only. Anything exceptional

07:41in this that we need to be calling

07:43attention to? Most of them are standard.

07:46>> Not at all, Mr. Chairman. Just standard

07:47fences, signs, and awnings.

07:49>> All right, good.

07:51H1, public service update.

07:54Um

07:55approve the construction contract with

07:56Wildwood Contractors. Who's going to

07:59address that one?

08:01>> Yeah, that's me.

08:02>> All right. Uh

08:04>> So, that is a contract with Wildwood um

08:06contractors for the first phase of the

08:09Broad Street sidewalk um

08:11repair.

08:13Um so, basically that is everything from

08:16King Street to um City Hall on the

08:21I guess it would be the south side.

08:23North side. North side. Yeah.

08:26>> I was going to say so you get all that

08:28kind of stuff. I mean, you need to

08:29repair a sidewalk on Broad Street?

08:31>> I I'm I'm looking out the window right

08:33now at the work that's going to be done

08:34outside my window. It's going to be

08:36fantastic.

08:37>> [laughter]

08:39>> Uh so, that's the first phase. We'll

08:41bring the other um they're working on

08:42the quotes and everything for phases two

08:44through six, and we'll bring those back

08:45as soon as those are ready.

08:47>> All right, thank you, Mr. Altop.

08:49Uh Council uh who was the second on

08:51that? I know Councilman Seeking moved

08:52it. Who was the second?

08:53>> Yeah, I was.

08:54>> All right, thank you.

08:56Uh all of oh

08:57well, I have uh Councilman Gray?

08:59>> I just had a quick question. So, can you

09:01um Mr. Altop, can you just give an

09:02overview of the scope?

09:05>> Yeah, so they're going to tear out all

09:07the old bluestone um and reuse as much

09:09of it as we can, fix the

09:11um

09:12under

09:14you know, the light or the the gravel,

09:15redo the base,

09:17um reset granite um curbing or bluestone

09:20curbing depending on what's there.

09:22Um make sure all the intersections are

09:24ADA compliant, uh remove any of the

09:27parking meters along there.

09:29Um and then on some of the sections

09:31we're going to run power to tree wells

09:34in order um for us to eventually put

09:37holiday lights and things there.

09:39>> Well, that's a pretty significant.

09:42>> Yes. [laughter]

09:44>> And the project's going all the way from

09:46the corner of King Street to East Bay on

09:48the north and south sides of the street.

09:50So, it's a fairly long run of sidewalk

09:52that ultimately will be done.

09:54>> But, this section is just King Street to

09:55Meeting Street, right?

09:56>> On the north side.

09:58>> Yeah.

09:58>> Just just across Meeting Street a little

10:00bit, just just past City Hall.

10:02>> Yep. And then it basically follows the

10:05blocks down and then turns and comes

10:07back up the other side of the street

10:09when we get to phase four, five, and

10:11six.

10:12>> Does anybody know the last time that

10:13this was done? I'm just curious like

10:14what the lifespan of of a bluestone

10:17sidewalk is and

10:19um,

10:20>> I don't think it's been done since it's

10:22been put down.

10:24>> Yeah.

10:24>> And I don't know when it was installed.

10:26That was I don't know. Do you remember,

10:27Mike?

10:28>> No, it's this hasn't been done in a long

10:30time. It was not part of the King Street

10:32improvement when they did all the

10:33underground wiring, so it's been a

10:36while. There's been some patchwork done

10:38and obviously some utility work, but not

10:39a full comprehensive redo of it all. And

10:43one of the things you might have heard

10:44is this is also part and parcel of the

10:47getting rid of all the parking meters,

10:48which will actually make the

10:50right away

10:51that much wider. It's going to be really

10:53nice.

10:55>> Looking forward to it.

10:56>> Yeah.

10:57>> And all longer we do as needed. Um, all

11:00in favor of the motion, please say aye.

11:03>> Aye.

11:04>> Any any ready to say any opposed? Thank

11:06you. Item H also I one.

11:11Department of Development Services

11:14update.

11:16Ms. Creech.

11:18>> Yes, good afternoon. The first item that

11:20we have up for today is an amendment to

11:24our stormwater ordinance to adopt the

11:27definition of functionally dependent use

11:29that FEMA has promulgated

11:32um, to adopt FEMA's model ordinance for

11:35a variance procedures for

11:37structures that meet that definition.

11:40Um, this is really for structures that

11:42are going to be above, uh, open water.

11:45Um, and if if I said that wrong, Ron

11:48will will correct me, but, um, we

11:50anticipate that we might see some more

11:51of these in the future and want to make

11:53sure that our process aligns with

11:54FEMA's.

11:56>> Okay.

11:58Um,

12:00need a motion to carry this forward.

12:03>> Move for approval.

12:04>> Second.

12:05>> Probably moved and seconded.

12:07By the mayor, seconded by Council

12:09member, uh, Greg.

12:11Any discussion? All in favor, please say

12:13I.

12:14>> I.

12:15>> I.

12:15>> Any opposed?

12:17Uh, item I2, declaration of exclusive

12:20storm water drainage easement and public

12:23access easement conjunction with fire

12:25station 23, Ms. Creech.

12:28>> Uh, yes. So, this is the parcel that

12:31will be fire station 23, and rather than

12:35give ourselves an easement since we own

12:37it and we can't do that, it's just a

12:38declaration of our standard, uh,

12:41drainage, uh, storm water drainage

12:43easement and and an access easement as

12:44well, so that if any, uh,

12:47time in the future the property were to

12:49change ownership, those easements would

12:52remain in place.

12:53>> Okay.

12:56A motion from the body.

12:58>> Move for approval.

12:59>> Second.

13:00>> Probably moved and seconded. Any

13:01discussion on that?

13:03Well, it sounds simple, Ms. Creech. All

13:05in favor, please say I.

13:07>> I.

13:08>> I.

13:09>> Any opposed? Thank you. Uh,

13:11I3, confirmation of easement and repair

13:14maintenance agreement between One Vendor

13:16Range

13:17and the city of Charleston, Ms. Creech.

13:19>> Huh.

13:21>> Yes. So, Councilman Seekings can help me

13:23out on this one if if I get anything

13:25wrong.

13:26>> I I can do this one if you want.

13:27>> Sure. I'd be happy to let you talk about

13:29it.

13:30>> So, no problem. And Magli has done a

13:31really This creature has done a really

13:33great job of doing this. So, you all

13:35know where One Vandu is, right by Joe

13:36Raby One Front Park with the City

13:38Gallery. Those condominiums, which have

13:40been there for a long time, just did a

13:41complete with it was just a complete um

13:44renovation and repair of the

13:45condominiums. At At the end of that

13:48project, the city came in and rep-

13:51replaced a bunch of trees and repaired

13:53all the common areas in front of the um

13:56City Gallery and along the sidewalks.

13:57All the sidewalks have been redone.

13:59>> Mhm.

14:00>> And one of the things we learned during

14:01the course of the project, both of

14:02renovation and doing the sidewalk and

14:04and tree work, is there were not really

14:07complete documents sort of memorializing

14:11who had responsibilities moving forward

14:13with maintenance. Um so, what has been

14:16done during the course of all this work

14:18is the legal side of it has been cleared

14:20up and through Miss Creature's hard

14:21work, we now have a complete

14:23understanding on whose responsibility it

14:25is to now maintain a beautifully redone

14:29common area in and around the One Vandu

14:31Range condominium complex.

14:33>> Okay.

14:35So, do you have a motion, Councilman

14:37Seekins?

14:39>> Pardon me, I'm sorry.

14:40>> I said, do you have a motion?

14:41>> Oh, yeah. Move to approve.

14:43>> Second.

14:43>> It's been moved and seconded.

14:45Aids on readiness. All in favor, please

14:47say aye.

14:48>> Aye.

14:49>> [clears throat]

14:50>> Any opposed? Thank you. E4, request for

14:52approval of a new and revised fees

14:55associated with building inspections.

14:57Uh Mr. Bucci.

14:58>> Uh yes, Mr. Chairman. I was going to

15:00share a very brief presentation with you

15:02all if that is okay.

15:13Um are you all able to see my screen?

15:15>> Yes.

15:16>> Okay. So, this is um some new and

15:18revised fees that we will be taking into

15:20effect January 1, 2027. Uh presenting to

15:23you all and then will be um reported out

15:26to council or first, second, and third

15:28reading.

15:29Um just a quick overview, all the fees

15:31that will be discussed are based on what

15:33is required to cover the cost of the

15:35city's time. Um all fees have been

15:37coordinated with BFRC and legal. Um as I

15:40just stated, the plan is to make all

15:42fees become effective January 1st, 2027.

15:46And um my department development

15:48services has projected about a 1.8

15:50million dollar additional general fund

15:52dollars based on these fee increases.

15:55And the goal is to better account for

15:56the city's cost when it comes to the

15:58permitting, review, and inspection of

16:00various city processes.

16:04>> So this ordinance, Mr. Bucci, uh

16:06this something has going on for a series

16:08of years, but even when we increase

16:10these fees, Mr. Bucci, comparing to the

16:12county, we

16:14and all the municipality, we're still

16:15pretty competitive, aren't we? In some

16:16cases, we still lag.

16:18>> Yeah, I absolutely. And I'll definitely

16:20get to to that nice comparison table we

16:22have for the the residential fees that

16:24we've changed, but you you're absolutely

16:26right.

16:27Um so so with the fee revisions, there's

16:30about uh a few that we revised. Um the

16:33encroachment permit fee is a one-time

16:35payment that's traditionally $25 for

16:37doing non-standard material in our

16:38right-of-way. That fee has increased to

16:40$100.

16:42Engineering permit is any work within

16:44our right-of-way, whether it be

16:45standard, non-standard, just, you know,

16:48digging, uh utility work. Again, that

16:50increased to 25 from 25 to 100. That

16:53requires review and inspection. And then

16:56our permit center application fee we

16:59have increased from 40 to $80. Um

17:03those are all existing fees and we do

17:04have and I see the building permit fee,

17:06I'll cover that in more detail on the

17:08next slide. But the new fees we have, um

17:11one of them is the letter of map

17:13revision for fill. We don't see these

17:15too often, but it's when a site wants to

17:16bring in a a certain amount of fill to

17:19revise the maps and take them out of

17:21flood zones. Um we're going to start

17:22charging $200 for that. And then for

17:25commercial buildings where we require a

17:27certificate of occupancy, there's

17:29actually a lot of coordination between

17:30fire, building, permit center, and

17:32zoning. Um we're proposing to to charge

17:36a $350 fee. Um our computations

17:39supported up to $600 but we felt with

17:42this being a new fee uh coming in at 350

17:46was a little more appropriate for for

17:48what we should be charging for now.

17:51>> Okay. Any questions of Mr. Butchie?

17:54>> I got one more thing I was going to

17:56cover, Mr. Chairman, if you I'll go

17:58quickly though. Yeah, sorry.

18:00>> Stage is yours. Go ahead.

18:01>> Yeah, so this is just the residential

18:03fees um for new buildings and additions.

18:07Um and basically what you'll see is it's

18:09a 50% increase for all of the fees. Um

18:13we were able to support much higher than

18:14that but going to the next slide, this

18:17column that says proposed 2027, this is

18:20the fees based on the cost of

18:22construction. And as you compare it to

18:24the county, we're we're very in line

18:26with the county

18:28um

18:28and even less in in some cases when you

18:31get to those higher values. And then we

18:33also compared it to Mount Pleasant which

18:34is is essentially the same.

18:37Uh

18:37basically meeting the the other

18:39municipalities that surround us and and

18:41coming more in line with them.

18:44And that's really it. And now I can open

18:46it up for questions if you have any.

18:48>> All right. Questions for Mr. Butchie?

18:53You did a solid job, Mr. Butchie. It was

18:54the pleasure of the committee. What's

18:56the motion?

18:57>> Move for approval.

18:59>> Properly moved.

19:01>> Second.

19:02>> Councilman Shealy second.

19:04>> Seeking's dead but I either way.

19:07>> Okay. All right.

19:08I second twice, Mr. Butchie. All in

19:10favor of the motion, please say I.

19:13>> I.

19:14>> Any opposed? Thank you. Uh Mr. Bushy,

19:17good job.

19:18>> Thank you.

19:19>> Stormwater management update, Mr.

19:21Fountain, J1.

19:23Table Hazelwood and Tablewood

19:25small project.

19:27>> Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know

19:28this one is close to your heart.

19:31>> [laughter]

19:33>> I was hoping with with your permission

19:35we were going to have Ms. Jordan

19:36Mallette, who's the project manager for

19:37this project to a brief presentation.

19:40>> That'd be great.

19:41>> Yeah, thank you, Matt. Thank you, Mr.

19:43Chairman. I'm going to share my screen

19:47briefly.

19:49Okay.

19:52Um so, yeah, today going to provide an

19:54update on the recently completed

19:56project. This was a part of our small

19:58projects program uh located in the

20:01Orleans Woods neighborhood in West

20:03Ashley. Uh project ultimately replaced

20:05two existing city stormwater pipes at

20:07the intersection of Hazelwood,

20:09Taperwood, and Jaywood.

20:12>> Mhm.

20:12>> Um

20:14kind of zooming out before getting into

20:15the details, wanted to briefly put us in

20:18the context of other city efforts within

20:20the larger Dupont Wappoo basin. Um we

20:23have a handful of capital projects

20:24underway currently, including a

20:26collaborative effort with the Army Corps

20:28of Engineers,

20:29um as well as an upcoming project on

20:31Orleans Road, which should be begin

20:33construction in early 2027.

20:36>> [clears throat]

20:36>> Um and then looking a little bit closer,

20:38the project area, um this is where we

20:40replaced our pipes. Um in general, kind

20:43of in this neighborhood, stormwater

20:45flows through roadside ditches and

20:46through a rear rear yard ditch um before

20:49it reaches the larger ditch in the

20:50Orleans Road corridor. Um from there, it

20:53all passes to the south, generally to

20:55the larger Dupont Wappoo main drainage

20:58channel before it goes under 526,

21:00Savannah Highway, and the Greenway

21:01before it gets to the Stono River.

21:04Um now looking closer at this

21:06neighborhood, um project was developed

21:08in response to recurring drainage

21:10issues, particularly at this

21:11intersection.

21:13During significant rainfall, water

21:15typically accumulates around this

21:16intersection as well as at some

21:18mid-block side yard drainage ditches.

21:21We did do all model and design on this

21:23project in-house. Ultimately found that

21:26the biggest impacts

21:28looked at upsizing a handful of

21:29different pipes, but the biggest impacts

21:31were to upsize these two existing 18-in

21:33pipes to 24-in pipes. Which allowed

21:36water to drain out faster.

21:38Um

21:40Construction began this past September,

21:42so about a month ago, and all work was

21:44completed in early October. We were able

21:46to complete all of this using in-house

21:48city construction crews.

21:51And lucky enough,

21:53as an engineer, we always like to be

21:54able to test our designs.

21:56Project was completed right before a big

21:58storm event at the first week of

22:00October, and we can actually see where

22:02the debris line

22:03did not overtop the redway. So, which is

22:05an encouraging initial observation.

22:08Although, one storm event isn't enough

22:09to determine, you know, the overall

22:11impact or entirely solve flooding in the

22:13neighborhood. So, that's why we will

22:15continue with our other capital

22:16projects.

22:18Happy to take any questions.

22:20>> I don't have a question, but I certainly

22:22want to say thank you, ma'am. This is a

22:25uh

22:26This is well done for a neighborhood

22:28that's, you know, long

22:30asking for it. So, thank you, Mr.

22:32Felton, for you and your team

22:34getting it done.

22:36>> Thank you.

22:38>> Any uh

22:40Obviously, if if I were in presiding,

22:42I'd be the one making a motion on this

22:44one, but

22:45Can we get a motion?

22:46>> Move for approval.

22:47>> Properly moved and

22:48>> Second.

22:49>> Second.

22:50>> Do we need

22:51This is just updates. So, do we need

22:52[snorts]

22:53>> Yeah.

22:53>> Do we need a motion?

22:54>> You're right. You're right. Thank you.

22:56>> [sighs]

22:56>> I'm used to spending money. This money's

22:58already [laughter] been spent.

23:01>> This one actually was just updates Um um

23:05both in-house engineering and in-house

23:07construction effort um great

23:09collaboration between the project

23:10management team and the field ops team

23:12doing a really cost-efficient

23:15significant improvement very quickly or

23:16as as Mr. Knight mentioned uh less than

23:19a month basically instead of having to

23:20go through the long

23:21>> I'd like to make a motion for a round of

23:23applause for our stormwater

23:26>> You're right, man.

23:30Again, thank you, Mr. Flood. These small

23:32projects mean a lot because it normally

23:34happens I don't care where it is in the

23:36district. It happens in somebody's

23:37neighborhood, somebody's front or

23:39backyard. It matters.

23:41Um J2 update on MUSC pump station upfit

23:46project.

23:49>> Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, this

23:50one is also a gem.

23:52Up to that slide.

23:56Uh so, this is also just an update. Um

23:58this is a project we've brought through

24:00council previously for the funding

24:01allocations. It's a collaborative effort

24:03with the US Army Corps of Engineers to

24:05upfit the MUSC pump station.

24:07Um similar to what we did recently for

24:09the Concord pump station with the city.

24:12Uh we just wanted to update y'all that

24:14the construction bidding was

24:15successfully completed by the core. We

24:17actually have our pre-con meeting I

24:19think it was today

24:20um for that

24:22project. Um Ruby Collins is the selected

24:25contractor from the core team. They're

24:26the ones doing the both the Lockwood

24:29pump station for us in Spring Fishburne

24:31as well as they did the

24:33on the Concord pump station. Great

24:35contractor. Uh bid came in within

24:37budget. So, that's moving forward. It'll

24:39likely be a few months till you see any

24:41work on the ground because there's a lot

24:42of long lead time items um on these pump

24:45stations, but looking forward to

24:46continuing that. So, happy to answer any

24:49questions, but just an update that

24:50that's um that's continuing apace.

24:54>> Any questions

24:55uh committee members.

24:59I continue Mr. Felton J3 update on

25:02Market Street project.

25:04>> Yeah, thank you Mr. Sherman. So, the

25:05Market Street project I think is one

25:07that many of the committee members are

25:09familiar with, but just as a very brief

25:11refresher,

25:12the city previously installed as you see

25:14in the bottom right corner

25:16tunnels, a deep tunnel and a drop shaft

25:19system with drop shafts between the

25:21market stalls to drain the street that

25:24it is generally no longer kayakable, but

25:28it does still flood about curb deep or a

25:31little bit higher for that water to

25:33drain down to these big inlets that you

25:36can see in the top right photo.

25:38The next phase of the project is to

25:41install a modern collection the curb

25:44inlets and

25:46grade inlets and upsize pipes to take

25:48that water to these drop shafts where

25:50then you wouldn't see really any

25:51flooding of substance within the street

25:54and temporary curb flooding

25:57like we see on most roads.

25:59That work is something that the city has

26:02initial plans for. We have recently

26:05finished the upfitting of the Concord

26:07pump station which is where all this

26:08water runs to

26:10and there are a number of large-scale

26:12projects in this area. So, we said we're

26:15talking with the mayor. I'm sure the

26:16mayor will will have

26:19some ideas to add into this, but

26:21to basically how do we coordinate all of

26:23these complex projects together into the

26:25same space cuz this the city project

26:27also includes undergrounding the power

26:28lines as well as all the cable and

26:30communication lines and working with CWS

26:32to update all of their water and sewer

26:34lines through the system and then put

26:36back an improved streetscape over all of

26:38it. So, we're going in right now. We're

26:40working through those plans making sure

26:42everything is in coordination.

26:44Doing our stakeholder engagement,

26:46reaching out to property owners,

26:48developers, business owners, market

26:51vendors, um

26:53residents in the area, and then of

26:55course the utility companies to try to

26:56make sure we're all on the same page,

26:58working together as quickly as possible

26:59cuz as we all know large-scale

27:02uh civil infrastructure projects like

27:03this are disruptive

27:04in construction, even though they are

27:06extremely impactful um

27:09post-construction.

27:10And uh Mayor, is there anything you'd

27:12like to add into that that process we're

27:14working through?

27:15>> No, we're we're close to um

27:19I I I I think this can be a very

27:20transformative project, not just from

27:22stormwater but from an aesthetic

27:24standpoint. Really from King Street all

27:27the way down to the water, and

27:30um some of the improvements that we're

27:32looking to add on to this, which I'm

27:35excited to show you all

27:38and then either the next meeting or the

27:40meeting following

27:41uh with the chair's permission

27:44are some of the renderings that um

27:48uh we're working on that really will

27:50make this um

27:53uh

27:54one of the biggest landmarks it already

27:56is in the region, but really dressing it

27:59up with more of an urban canopy because

28:01we're burying the power lines.

28:03Obviously, what Matt and his team are

28:05working on is critical with the uh

28:07movement of water and stormwater,

28:10but really beautifying Market Street in

28:14a pretty meaningful way um because most

28:17of the cost associated with this is

28:18subsurface. Uh so while we're at it, you

28:21know, may as well do some uh I think

28:25facelifts.

28:26And it is going to be a very complicated

28:28project just because of all the moving

28:30parts, but I do think I'm excited to

28:33share what we're working on with this

28:35committee um

28:37because I think it's going to be pretty

28:39spectacular.

28:41And appreciate Matt and his team

28:43kind of really leaning in. We We've got,

28:46you know, this touches almost every

28:47department in the city um when it's all

28:49said and done. So, it's going to be a

28:52Herculean lift to get it done, but I

28:54think we've got the team um put together

28:57to do it.

29:03>> Okay, any uh other

29:05questions of

29:07Mr. Felton or the mayor?

29:10>> All right.

29:15>> Uh

29:16move on to J4, uh Dupont Wapoo Orleans

29:19Road drainage improvements. Mr. Felton?

29:22>> Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

29:23Um

29:25This is as Ms. Mullett mentioned, we did

29:27a small project effort just upstream of

29:29this area. This is the

29:31capital scale effort that kind of

29:33leverages and this that project

29:34leverages off of uh to do some

29:36improvements in the canal system and the

29:39drainage along Orleans Road.

29:41Um

29:42we have finished design permitting,

29:44finished our construction bidding. Uh

29:46we're just finalizing the selection of

29:48the low bid contractor now that will

29:49come to council um probably in the next

29:52month's set of council meetings.

29:54Um but this item is to accept a million

29:56dollars of state funding from the annual

30:00appropriations that was supported by our

30:01legislative delegation, of course, and

30:03Representative Stavrinakis.

30:05Um so, the again, the vote I the vote is

30:07to basically receive um receive that

30:09funding and approve us to submit the

30:10forms to receive the funding.

30:14>> Uh um

30:16this does involve money, so Madam Clerk,

30:18this necessitates a motion, right?

30:23>> Yes.

30:25>> Second.

30:26>> All right. Uh any more discussion on

30:28this one?

30:30All in favor, please say I.

30:32>> I.

30:32>> Any opposed? Thank you. Uh

30:36and thank Representative Stavrinakis,

30:38too.

30:39I saw him Saturday. If had I known that,

30:42I would have thanked him again for this.

30:45Uh

30:45>> a very successful collaboration with the

30:47state and the city and the county in

30:49this area in finding funding and and

30:52bringing in efforts in this kind of

30:53multi jurisdiction state roads, um both

30:56city and county jurisdictions. Really

30:59good partnership work out here getting

31:00to improvements.

31:01>> It was great.

31:03Thank you for your efforts, too, Mr.

31:04Felton. Uh

31:06J5, uh Newmarket Creek restoration.

31:10>> Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is

31:12um

31:13and I uh another actionable item, but

31:16one to update you that we've completed

31:18the RFQ process um for the professional

31:21services for the Newmarket Creek work.

31:23Selected Thomas and Hutton for

31:25recommended Thomas and Hutton to the

31:26committee for approval. Um we developed

31:29that

31:30scope for um at this point the funding

31:32is to do a review of the different

31:35conceptual project options and then take

31:37preliminary design. We'll come back with

31:39a

31:40amendment to the scope for final design

31:42and permitting once we have a a better

31:43feel for the um exact recommendation.

31:46This is uh this work is funded from a

31:49million-dollar grant also from the

31:50National Fish and Wildlife Foundation.

31:53So, uh this is a

31:55motion as per the agenda to approve the

31:57professional service contract with T&H

31:59for $380,000

32:01for that initial work.

32:02>> Okay, chair entertains the motion.

32:04>> Move for approval.

32:05>> Second.

32:06>> Second.

32:07>> Uh let me ask a question, Mr. Felton.

32:08That that bull what what kind of low I

32:10mean

32:12the king tides to come I my swamp that

32:14thing, huh? That thing going to be?

32:16>> Yeah, this was a this was a decorative

32:18rendering from one of the early

32:20conceptual um project ideas of what

32:22Newmarket Creek could be. I think the

32:25stormwater project is is going to be a

32:27combination of ecological rest

32:29We're evaluating a combination of

32:31ecological restoration, probably some

32:34tide control, some limited tide control,

32:36and then improving public access because

32:38if we can get people to see the value of

32:40the marsh from ecological health and

32:42flood control, that also is a kind of a

32:45wonderful way to leverage our projects

32:46with public access. But you're right,

32:47Mr. Chairman, uh that one might go

32:49underwater a little too frequently, so

32:51maybe we'll bring it a little higher in

32:52the actual engineering.

32:53>> All right. Thank you. Thank you.

32:55All in favor of stated motion, please

32:57say I.

32:58>> I.

32:58>> I.

32:58>> Any opposed? Thank you.

33:00Uh okay. Uh

33:06Item J6, Lake Dotter.

33:09Uh

33:09>> Yeah, this one is uh I think near and

33:11dear to Councilman Chilly's heart, but

33:13um so this is a memorandum with Thomas

33:15Norton for $28,700.

33:18It's a

33:19uh lower dollar amendment that we

33:20normally see at council because we

33:22didn't establish a project budget yet

33:24for this project with the permission to

33:26be able to do minor amendments without

33:27coming back through council committee

33:29cuz we're still in the professional

33:30services firm, not yet in the

33:32construction contract firm. So it's

33:34coming back through council, but it's

33:35just a a small change. And basically,

33:38this is to add in the engineering

33:39support um to allow for in-house

33:42construction of the phase on Mariner's

33:45Ferry that we identified as part of the

33:47larger capital scale work um that will

33:49occur on more of the

33:51um the dam structure across Lake Dotter.

33:55The berm, technically.

33:57So, this basically lets our field ops

34:01crew go out with some construction

34:02staking support and some assistance in

34:04procuring materials um to to build

34:07similar to what we saw with Miss Mulot

34:09earlier in in Giba Wabu.

34:11Um to build this first phase in-house

34:13lets us have a a lower project budget,

34:15stay within our existing funding

34:16allocations, and get the work done much

34:18quicker

34:19um while we're working through uh the

34:22larger project going into its formal

34:24construction low-bid procurement. So,

34:27um this work all funded by the county um

34:30through ARPA funds that they provide to

34:32the city, scheduled for our construc-

34:34construction by our own field apps crew

34:35late this year. Um, if if again, we

34:38approve this and uh

34:39agree to that initial design work.

34:42>> With your pleasure, Mr. Shealy.

34:44>> Move for approval.

34:46>> Say again.

34:48>> Yeah, and um, Mr. Chairman, I just I

34:51just want to say thank you to the

34:53Stormwater Department. Um, people are

34:54excited around that area. They're

34:56starting to see see trucks come in and

34:58um, they're very very excited. A couple

35:00of weeks ago we had a little scare with

35:03the weather report and um, our

35:05Stormwater Department along with the

35:06Parks Department did an outstanding job

35:08of keeping Lake Dotter, um,

35:10within the banks for the most part, but

35:11keep certainly keeping it out of

35:12people's homes. Um,

35:14got some pumps over there and um, people

35:16are very happy with um, with the service

35:19they received. So, I just want to say

35:20thank you so much.

35:22>> Thank you for sharing that.

35:24Um,

35:28uh, did I call the motion yet? All in

35:30favor, please say aye. Did I?

35:31>> Aye.

35:32>> Aye.

35:32>> Aye.

35:33>> Okay. Any opposed?

35:35So much good news I forgot. Carried the

35:37motion. Uh, J7, uh, Avondale Mall Drive

35:41Drainage Improvements, Mr. Fountain.

35:43>> Yeah, thank you Mr. Chairman. So, this

35:44is a, um,

35:46another item for for a vote. This is an

35:48approval of an agreement with Charleston

35:49County for the city to provide $25,000

35:52of funding,

35:54um, basically for the

35:56county to have its engineering

35:58consultant for the Avondale Intersection

36:00project, which is Stantec, review

36:04the drainage infrastructure in um, sort

36:08of this Westwood-Avondale area that's

36:10coming down to the realigned

36:11intersection to see if you were to

36:14improve the downstream system, what size

36:17should the infrastructure go in, um,

36:22that is the new infrastructure that

36:23they're installing as part of their

36:24project. So, trying to sort of

36:26future-proof

36:27so you don't install new infrastructure

36:29that would then be undersized if we do a

36:30downstream improvement project and you

36:32have to come back and replace.

36:34Um county's agreed to have their

36:35consultant look at that, which is often

36:37the most efficient way to do it since

36:39they'll be the ones designing the

36:40project. Um we agreed conceptually um to

36:44transfer $25,000 towards this efforts

36:46with the approval of council, of course,

36:48which is what the MOU would allow.

36:50Um you would still need to have the

36:52city, county, state all collaboratively

36:54somehow make these downstream

36:56improvements for those upstream

36:57improvements to make an improvement to

37:00you're basically not installing a new

37:01construction as part of their project.

37:03They have agreed

37:04conceptually as well to fund the

37:06construction of the correct sized

37:08infrastructure, not asking for

37:10additional city funds at this point um

37:12towards those efforts. Most likely it'll

37:13be larger larger inlet boxes and some

37:16larger pipes um coming into that

37:17intersection in the new section of road

37:19that they're building. Happy to talk

37:20about that in more detail if helpful,

37:22but

37:23uh I think it's a a good continued

37:24collaboration between the two entities.

37:27>> All right.

37:28We have a motion on the floor.

37:32>> Move for approval.

37:33>> Second.

37:34>> Properly moved and seconded.

37:36Any more discussion?

37:38Last chance. All in favor, please say I.

37:41>> I.

37:42>> I.

37:43>> Any opposed?

37:44With that, that brings a conclusion to

37:47to this meeting uh

37:48>> S- Sorry Mr. Chairman, we have one more

37:50one more item.

37:51>> One more?

37:52Oh yeah, discussion. Okay.

37:55Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

37:57>> Yeah, I don't we have we have a lot of

37:58items um last last week was a little bit

38:00shorter than this week and it'll be a

38:02little heavier for stormwater items.

38:04>> Discussion of FY 27 small projects.

38:09>> Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, this

38:10is this is just our kind of initial

38:12presentation of the items that we are

38:15currently putting together and assessing

38:17for potential small project funding for

38:19next year. Um it's just discussion at

38:21this point. wanted to show these to the

38:23committee,

38:24make sure there's time for the committee

38:26to ask questions for us and provide

38:28input before we'd eventually have to

38:29take a final vote.

38:31Normally, we do it in the

38:33November

38:35public works utilities meeting and then

38:37December when we actually finalize the

38:39budget because we can't technically

38:42approve any of the allocations until we

38:43have the budget approved for next year.

38:45But we can make a recommendation saying

38:47here's where we want to see that funding

38:48be allocated assuming budget passes.

38:51It's all more complicated. We do come

38:53back again with anything that requires

38:54council approval. These are not

38:57approvals of

38:59future projects. They are just

39:01approvals of an idea for allocation. If

39:03we come back with a contract, that would

39:05be approved. If we come back with, you

39:06know, construction contracts,

39:07professional service contracts. So just

39:08as a refresher of how this all works is

39:10a little bit unusual. Mr. Chairman, at

39:13your strong encouragement and

39:15suggestion, we have proposed $2 million

39:18in the small project allocation for next

39:20year with the support of

39:21the budget office, the mayor's office.

39:23>> [clears throat]

39:24>> So that's what we're showing here is a

39:25tentative identification of 2027

39:28funding. Again, this is not in any way

39:30final yet. It's just for your awareness

39:32and discussion.

39:33I can briefly go through any of the

39:35projects um

39:37or go through all of the projects if

39:39that's helpful, whatever the committee

39:40prefers.

39:42I do not have full slide presentations

39:45for each project. That one that would

39:46take a lot quite a while for this

39:47meeting which is long already, but happy

39:49to talk about them a little bit in more

39:51detail, especially some of the carryover

39:52projects. Oh, I should

39:54should reiterate that too. We do show in

39:552028 um

39:58if something is funded in 2027 and or

40:00has been previously funded and is likely

40:02to require additional funding in 2028,

40:05we do is likely to be required. Of

40:07course, it's not binding that in at this

40:09point uh

40:10and

40:11>> [clears throat]

40:11>> um approved in a budget yet.

40:13Just trying to make sure there's

40:13awareness of the scale of project size

40:15as we as we approve funding in any given

40:18year.

40:18>> Okay.

40:21All right, committee members, uh Ms.

40:23Gordon.

40:24>> Um I'm not seeing a project list um on

40:28my screen.

40:30Is there a

40:30>> Is anybody else not seeing the list?

40:32>> I see it.

40:33>> I see it.

40:34>> Okay. Well, apologies. Ignore me. Um

40:37would we be able to talk about Neighbors

40:38Drive at all?

40:40>> So that is one of the ones um shown on

40:41the list. That one's shown for

40:43tentatively at $125,000.

40:45Um that's one of the more

40:47unknown uh

40:49final budgets that we're still working

40:51through and that that town is doing a

40:53sidewalk project there, has identified

40:55there are some areas of flooding in a

40:57portion of the city where the sidewalk

40:58is

41:00passing through. Um they have just

41:03started doing some initial survey work,

41:05so we are

41:06using the initial survey work they've

41:08done, but they've indicated they're

41:09going to come back with some additional

41:11detail uh which will help us refine our

41:12budget, but at a very rough level, we're

41:16looking at probably $125,000 for the

41:18most straightforward improvement. We

41:20might have a cheaper idea that we're

41:21looking at, but we placeholder that for

41:23now.

41:24>> So in terms of next steps, just cuz we

41:26have um James Island and Nirgovan on

41:28Wednesday, and I'd love to update them.

41:29So they So the town owes us final design

41:34for the sidewalk, and then we'll be able

41:36to

41:38design a plan and and try to get funding

41:40for it.

41:42>> So we'll we'll continue looking at

41:43design even barring their final approved

41:47plans, uh but it will Any information

41:50they can Any information they provide us

41:52always helps us tighten up our cost

41:54estimates.

41:55>> Okay. So what would the next step be

41:57then um when the town's ready to to put

42:01shovels in the ground for the sidewalk

42:03and we transfer over the earmark we were

42:05able to get?

42:08>> So

42:10for the drainage work, if there's

42:11funding allocated by the committee, we

42:13would start doing either in-house design

42:15or

42:16um

42:17external design, probably in-house on

42:19this one, and then look at

42:21whether we need permitting or not,

42:23depending on which option is picked, and

42:24then construction likely with a con-

42:28tractor. We got to have to see which

42:29option is picked. So,

42:31we're we're putting it on here because

42:32we know it's likely to be a time issue

42:34next year, but it is pretty high-level

42:36at this point. So, we'll have to do a

42:38little bit more of that progressive

42:39work.

42:40>> Okay. So, I should tell them,

42:42"Let's move forward with the sidewalk on

42:45the other side, and then hopefully next

42:47year we'll be able to

42:49approve officially funding for a

42:50drainage project there."

42:53>> Yes, I don't think they're

42:55approaching it like short very

42:57short-term construction of that

42:58sidewalk. I think you could say you were

42:59looking for an allocation of funding to

43:01support drainage improvements um along

43:03with the sidewalk, so the sidewalk

43:04basically doesn't end up underwater.

43:06>> Okay. Thank you.

43:08>> Yep.

43:09>> Uh Councilman uh Greg.

43:12>> Uh thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you,

43:13Mr. Fountain. Uh Mr. Fountain, just real

43:15quick, we talked about earlier this year

43:18um

43:19uh playing out based on cost cost and

43:22effort, I think, how many of the uh curb

43:24and gutter repairs we could do on

43:27um Daniel Island due to ponding issues.

43:30Uh as you recall, we we

43:32unfortunately made some really poor

43:33decisions. Uh and by by we, I mean, you

43:36know, previous folks in the city and the

43:38developer on uh street trees, planting

43:41live oaks as street trees is not really

43:43a

43:44uh anything sustainable or or workable

43:47for the long term. Um but we have a lot

43:49of curbs that are lifting up now causing

43:50ponding issues. I think you had said we

43:52were going to potentially look at pack-

43:54packaging some of

43:55the locations together on Daniel Island

43:57for a small project. Um any thoughts on

44:00what how we might be able to get that in

44:02the budget for next year?

44:03>> It Yeah, we do have those on there as a

44:05future allocation option for the curb

44:06and gutter realignment

44:08>> Okay, I see.

44:09>> program. We have it Yeah, we have it

44:10tentatively at $75,000.

44:13That'll likely be somewhere between 5

44:16and 12. We've been working on them

44:19in-house. Our field ops crews have kind

44:21of been

44:22have done the first couple in-house.

44:23It's much It's pretty time-consuming.

44:26a long a section you have to reset

44:27normally, but it does save

44:29quite a bit of money, so it'll be more

44:31like 12 if we can do them in-house.

44:33It'll be more like five if we can do

44:34them

44:35uh if we end up doing them

44:36contractor-wise, but we are setting that

44:38up and working through it.

44:40>> Okay.

44:41Um okay, so but that's So, that's

44:4475,000. I mean

44:47and then that's There's someone James

44:49Island that needs to be done out of that

44:5075,000.

44:50>> There's one on James Island right now

44:52that we have allocated. The rest of them

44:53are on Daniel Island.

44:54>> All right.

44:55>> For that For that budget item For that

44:57budget item.

44:58>> Yeah.

45:00Thank you.

45:01>> Yep, absolutely.

45:03>> Any question from any other committee

45:04member of the

45:06Think I can see all the hands.

45:09Um

45:11>> And again, Mr. Chairman, please if

45:12anyone want wants to reach out to me at

45:14any point before the next

45:16discuss in more detail. If there's

45:17something you see that's missing that

45:18you think should be on there, we can

45:20Uh this is just our initial

45:23uh initial distribution numbers will

45:24continue to refine as we work through

45:26them.

45:27>> Okay, great. Uh if you can, could you

45:30push this um

45:32summary out to all members of council,

45:34please?

45:35>> Absolutely.

45:35>> That'd be great.

45:37Uh these small projects, as I said,

45:39prove very positive

45:41and popular over the years.

45:43Uh unless there any last comments, by

45:46acclamation, this this meeting is

45:48is done. See you all tomorrow.

45:51>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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