2026-10-07 - Ad Hoc Budget Advisory Committee

00:00All right. Any other questions? I'm not

00:02seeing any.

00:06Um if there are no other questions on

00:09executive, we can move to some capital

00:12projects next.

00:13>> It's actually um it mayor.

00:15>> It all right.

00:19I think you're presenting on this.

00:24>> Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, apologize. And I am

00:27not going to be nearly as uh I'm going

00:30to be pale in comparison to the last two

00:32presentations especially when it comes

00:34to the graphical representation for the

00:37budget proposal. I apologize. U

00:44>> let me do that here.

00:46>> Can you make that smaller? that this is

00:49a not exactly a uh graphically pleasing

00:54or appealing presentation. So,

00:57apologize. Let me zoom in here for you.

01:01Where am

01:04my presentation?

01:09Where is my zoom?

01:17me using the full extent of my bif

01:19focals on this.

01:20>> Yeah. No, I I apologize that is I was

01:23very illprepared. Here we go. Let's see

01:26sharing.

01:27>> I want to zoom in on this.

01:32>> Hi, I have some of the same thing. Would

01:34you like me to share? That way you don't

01:36have to worry about it.

01:38I can do uh if I'll do this real quick

01:41if let me know when when it becomes

01:43essentially uh viewable for the the

01:47details on the screen.

01:51All right, zoom in here.

01:59That better for presentate for

02:01visibility.

02:02>> Yep.

02:03>> All right. So, I'm just going to uh

02:06briefly there's quite a few uh new items

02:09that are on our uh request list, and

02:12I'll I'll go over uh each of them

02:14individually, but I'll I'll kind of uh

02:17go more in depth on the ones that are

02:19are of of higher priority or larger

02:22scale. Uh first is in including uh

02:25server auditing and log event collector.

02:27So this will allow us to gather more

02:30information for records retention both

02:32compliance requirements uh for CEIS as

02:36well as just overall cyber security uh

02:39improvements requasures

02:42who logs into systems computer systems

02:44and logs that information. Uh the next

02:47three actually are all a single project

02:52that are indivi three individual systems

02:54that make up the larger data center uh

02:57systems within our onremise data center.

02:59And these house all of our server

03:02systems. There's the data protection

03:04appliance server infrastructure and the

03:07data center storage. These are three

03:10components we have that are currently in

03:12our existing data center go end of life

03:13in 2027. So these systems are replacing

03:17those aging systems. Uh the disaster

03:20recovery actually is the fourth uh

03:23component of that overall uplift that

03:26needs to be uh replaced due to age. The

03:31next is the access control system. This

03:34system handles the access control for

03:37many of the city facilities. That's the

03:39badge access like city hall. the system

03:43that we currently have in place. This

03:44upgrades the server. That server has

03:47been in place since the implementation

03:49in the Gillyard back in 2015 and is end

03:53of life and needing to be replaced.

03:57The next line is actually tied to the

04:00fire budget, I it budget and is

04:03expanding the access control system to

04:05fire stations. This will add three

04:09threeuh fire stations to that list.

04:11implementing access control for those

04:14fire stations. We're phasing that

04:16project out over multiple years and just

04:19tackling a few stations at a time. So,

04:21this will address uh the installation at

04:23three fire stations in the upcoming

04:25year. Uh the next item, fire station

04:29security cameras, add security cameras

04:32to fire stations. again those the three

04:36uh fire stations that we'll be adding

04:39access control to. We also add security

04:42cameras on the exterior of the building.

04:45The fire department helps us uh identify

04:48those areas they most want to record

04:52primarily ingress egress of these

04:54stations so that uh to improve the

04:56security of those fire stations.

04:59The next two are for the HRE uh HR dep

05:05department employee relations

05:06development platform and recognition

05:09software. The the titles kind of explain

05:12exactly which each one of those systems

05:14do their uh HR's requested these to help

05:18track the employee relations and then

05:21recognition for their expansion of

05:25programs for employee retention uh and

05:27relations. Uh the next item is AI

05:32program. The city is looking at the IT

05:35department is looking at expanding and

05:37adopting a full-fledged AI program. This

05:41includes the uh deployment the

05:45development of governance for AI uh to

05:49employ with deploy AI for employees

05:53augmentation and improved enhanced

05:55productivity. But we want to lay the

05:58groundwork for ensuring that the AI

06:00usage is safe both for citizen and and

06:04employee data that we're protecting all

06:07of that information as we leverage these

06:09new AI systems. This also includes

06:13funding for use of uh contracting with

06:17vendors as we develop

06:20custom AI programs. One of the things

06:22we're looking to tackle this year with

06:24some funding is uh currently with the

06:28clerk of council's office leveraging AI

06:32tools to enhance the and improve the use

06:36of transcriptions for these meetings.

06:39Uh, and so really take the onus off of

06:43an employee having to sit down, listen

06:45to a meeting, and physically transcribe,

06:48type out exactly what's said, leveraging

06:50AI tools to automatically do that. that

06:53allows the employee to then verify that

06:55information, but should significantly

06:59uh shrink the time that it takes for

07:02these meetings to get transcribed,

07:03allowing them to do that much more

07:06quickly and then do uh freeing up time

07:08to do other things, expand and just make

07:10them more productive overall.

07:14the Starlink uh failover project. This

07:17is a project for to uh improve our

07:21resiliency and emergency management

07:23where we're looking at identifying

07:25police and fire locations where we

07:27really want to ensure communications in

07:30the event of a natural disaster.

07:32uh this this is leveraging the

07:34satellitebased Starlink uh

07:36communications so that if we have a

07:38large-scale natural disaster whether it

07:41be man-made or natural u to ensure

07:45communications and resiliency for

07:47communications at these locations. The

07:50emergency 911 phone blue light towers is

07:53a project to deploy uh which you

07:57probably familiar with. You've see them

07:59around college campuses. There's some on

08:01the the Ravenel Bridge, the those 911

08:04call boxes with the blue lights. We're

08:07looking at uh deploying several of these

08:09both at pools uh or any recreation

08:13sites. They're currently in design with

08:15some of the projects that are currently

08:17going into uh in development. John's

08:20Island as well as u on Playground Road,

08:24uh the WL Stevens Pool. Uh those are

08:26built into those projects. This project

08:29allows us to retrofit recreation sites

08:31and city facilities, city parks uh with

08:35these systems to uh improve uh safety

08:38and and allow for emergency

08:41communications u by citizens in these

08:44public spaces.

08:46The cellular dash system, this is

08:49specifically for the bees landing

08:51recreation center. This is an

08:52augmentation for the uh DA stands for

08:55distributed antenna system. uh for the

08:59cellular system when you go into that

09:01building the cellular reception in that

09:03area is very poor and then once you go

09:07into the building it's practically

09:09non-existent. This dash system uh puts

09:12an antenna on the roof distributes that

09:14within this uh facility so that when you

09:17go into the building you don't lose uh

09:19cell service.

09:22the IT department restructure. This

09:25project is actually uh calling for three

09:28positions. The restructuring of the

09:31department, what we're looking to do is

09:33as the IT department focuses on

09:37innovation, we want to expand the

09:39operation and the offerings of

09:41innovation with the city as well as

09:42improve the cyber security program uh

09:47that's handled by the IT department.

09:50This is calls for three positions. A

09:52director of IT operations, a chief

09:55information security officer as well as

09:57a director of innovation. These three uh

10:01positions would then be over those three

10:03divisions uh within the IT department

10:06allowing them to focus on the

10:07operations. The IT uh operate director

10:11of operations would focus on the

10:13day-to-day functions of the IT services.

10:16The director of innovation would work

10:18with GIS and our enterprise systems

10:20group to focus on the enterprise systems

10:24as well as exploring what new systems

10:27can be leveraged, how we can leverage it

10:30to improve the other departments to

10:33serve the other departments and their

10:34needs to serve the citizens. is looking

10:37at it uh amplifying as a force

10:40multiplier as a value ad for those

10:42departments leveraging new systems that

10:44would just make all the departments more

10:46efficient. That's something that uh the

10:49city really has an opportunity to

10:51improve in how we the IT department

10:54assist the other departments in

10:55facilitating their uh their core

10:59functions and the functions that they

11:01need to uh serve the citizens.

11:04The next is another position for a

11:07senior GIS systems uh administrator.

11:11This position is primarily focused will

11:14be focused on maintaining the physical

11:17GIS systems. Right now the GIS uh

11:20department Roberts uh is currently doing

11:23most of these functions that this this

11:26position is looking to cover. he he's

11:29having to be the administer day-to-day

11:32for a lot of these systems and this will

11:34allow him free up time for him to expand

11:37the systems uh and really focus more

11:40again on that innovation focused uh and

11:44data analytics positions that he already

11:47does right now but it will free him up

11:48to do a lot more of those functions. The

11:52business analyst uh is under the uh

11:55enterprise systems group uh that's also

11:59again focused on uh and then another

12:02innovation uh forward position

12:05leveraging

12:07how we currently utilize our enterprise

12:10systems. How can that be improved and

12:12optimized and get a lot more value out

12:15of those systems that we currently have?

12:20That uh that is it for

12:24the new projects. Just as this is a

12:27summary what we're looking at new

12:28position requests total approximately

12:30673,000.

12:33uh ongoing operational

12:35uh expenses is approximately 630,000

12:39with 220,000 as a one-time total budget

12:43request uh for the uh fiscal year uh 2.4

12:47million approximately 2.5 million

12:52and I know that was a lot of information

12:54all at once uh drinking from a fire

12:57hose. Are there any questions about any

12:59of those projects? Councilman Wearing,

13:01looks like you have a question.

13:03>> Yeah, [clears throat] I do. Not so much

13:04the project. We go back to the emergency

13:06911. I asked this when we had, you know,

13:10Chief Walker and his team uh present and

13:14I think some of this would have spilled

13:15over in your area. Uh

13:17>> yes, sir.

13:18>> Mr. Torres, uh we have these linear

13:20parks that we have enhanced and

13:22encouraging people to use the the West

13:25Ashley bikeway and the West Ashley

13:27Greenway that runs a good bit Actually,

13:31soon we'll have the u the bridge, the

13:33bike bridge over to Ashley. Um

13:37going back to Chief Mullen, uh there was

13:39some talk about putting u uh cameras on

13:44on high, so to speak, I guess, on maybe

13:46some of Dominion's uh power poles out

13:49there that would relay to camera at the

13:54police station so those bikeways and

13:56greenways could be monitored. Uh has is

14:00has is that incorporated in any of your

14:02um

14:04request?

14:04>> No, that no sir, that's not in included

14:07in any of these projects.

14:09Generally the the the police department,

14:11they they do currently have security

14:14cameras uh throughout the city and al in

14:16these projects and they handle that

14:18exclusively within their budget. They

14:21handle the the placement working with

14:23the contractors. So those types of

14:26security cameras uh are generally

14:28handled directly by the uh by the police

14:32department especially when they're in

14:33these public spaces in the parks.

14:35>> The cameras that the IT department

14:37generally uh handles are on city

14:41facilities. Uh we work with capital

14:44projects either when the the facility is

14:47being developed and built u or when

14:50there's a retrofit. And we work with the

14:53primarily with the fire department on

14:55their facilities, but those more

14:57public-f facing spaces, the police

14:59department handles generally directly.

15:02>> Well, in that case, mayor, I need to

15:04circle back with Chief Walker there

15:05because, you know, this again, we're

15:07doing things to enhance those spaces to

15:10to attract more people to use them. Uh,

15:13but you know, we need to have eyes on

15:15there. I mean some years ago uh people

15:18used um the greenway as access to break

15:22in the back of people's homes. Okay.

15:24>> So um

15:26>> um I mean we picked up security for a

15:30while over there but obviously

15:31technology can help with that a whole

15:33lot better. So um uh I was thinking it's

15:36crossed over into your area miss Mr.

15:38Torres but um

15:41>> no sir then there there is that gray

15:43area. Yeah, I do understand your answer.

15:46So maybe I need to go back and and

15:48circle back with Chief Walker because

15:50that's something that uh we've been

15:53talking about uh for a number of years,

15:55as I say, since Chief Mullen was here.

15:58So um uh and that's before we started

16:02repaving and resurfacing and putting in

16:05new pedestrian bridges and stuff for

16:07people to enjoy. um instead of waiting

16:12for something to happen, I think it's

16:13better to be proactive.

16:15So anyway, I'll circle back with with

16:18the chief on that.

16:20>> Good point. Yeah.

16:23>> Any other questions for it and I

16:31Okay, who we got next?

16:38By the way, Mr. stories. I think your

16:39graph I thought your graphics were

16:40terrific.

16:42>> Yeah, [laughter]

16:45>> I was very illprepared especially

16:47especially following the [laughter]

16:50>> um Mayor Parks says next.

16:53>> All right. Uh who's running on this one?

16:57We got

17:00Clark.

17:02>> Yes, sir. We got we've got Michael

17:04Kennedy, Clark, and myself. and I'll

17:06I'll quarterback us through the uh the

17:08PowerPoint.

17:10>> All right, sounds good. Edmond

17:13>> here.

17:14>> Floor is yours

17:16and screen is yours.

17:18>> Let me know when you all can see that.

17:26>> We got it.

17:29>> All right. Well, thank you everyone for

17:31allowing me this opportunity uh to to

17:34present these budget requests for 2027

17:36for facilities and capital project

17:38section. Um I fully realize that we have

17:43a lot of requests on the docket. Um and

17:46I'll just jump right in here and try to

17:48get through this as quickly as possible.

17:56Um is our mission statement right here.

17:59And as you're reading through that, I

18:00just want to add that um we're here to

18:02provide turn-key services to the city

18:05public city employees and the public. We

18:09design everything from small plantings

18:11in public spaces to new vertical

18:13infrastructure. Currently, our section

18:16maintains the majority of city's assets

18:17to provide infrastructure for city

18:19employees to conduct business and

18:20enhance public spaces to be enjoyed by

18:22the public. We're able to do this.

18:27We're able to do this.

18:30We are able to do this by the

18:32>> by the funding that that is available to

18:34us. We fully understand the challenges

18:37of carving out funding for services when

18:39there are so many needs throughout the

18:40city. And we understand that funding is

18:42limited.

18:44Uh just a quick overview on the

18:46presentation. It's really broken up

18:47between staffing requests and funding

18:49requests. Um and our structure here's a

18:53very short org chart here. Um we

18:57basically have three major divisions

18:59here. Capital projects, facilities, we

19:02also call them building ops and then

19:04parks ops. So really the vertical

19:07construction and then all the park

19:08spaces and horizontal green spaces and

19:11then capital projects. Um interestingly

19:14enough this time of year capital

19:16projects doesn't generally have a lot of

19:17requests for operational costs. It's all

19:20in their project budgets for the most

19:21part. This is primarily going to be

19:23building ops and and parks ops.

19:27Um, it's about 150 employees. It kind of

19:29varies a little bit dayto day. Um, and

19:33let me jump right in here. So, our

19:35staffing requests are big. I realize

19:37that we're making 30 requests here. You

19:39know, in looking at our our staff

19:42currently, we have a lot of employees

19:44that are starting to age out, especially

19:46more in facilities, a little bit more in

19:48grounds. Um, we're looking, we're

19:51constantly expanding our park spaces,

19:54our building infrastructure, and the

19:57only way that we can compensate with

19:58that is by adding staff. Capital

20:01Projects has been very good over the

20:02last um 12 years to to add a lot of

20:05infrastructure. So, that kind of breaks

20:07down to 24 new positions being

20:10requested, five salary upgrades to

20:12existing staff. Uh, and you can kind of

20:15see the mix and the breakdown right

20:16there. And again, it's going to be

20:18really heavy in facilities, parks, ops,

20:20and urban forestry.

20:25Um, on the lighter side of things, um,

20:28this is these are the smaller divisions

20:30in in parks. Basically, a couple of

20:33upgrades to some existing salaries. Um,

20:37you know, the employees are working

20:38hard. Uh, they're stepping up, taking on

20:41more responsibility, and we thought it'd

20:43be appropriate to compensate them for

20:44that. And then the last item there is

20:47the NSSF

20:49funds uh coordinator for parks. Um we've

20:53had this position for probably a little

20:55less than three years now. And this this

20:59employee is dedicated to working with

21:01neighborhoods and Dominion to help

21:03underground projects. And upon assessing

21:06that in the last three years, we've

21:08noticed that it's not a full-time job.

21:11And we would like to kind of split the

21:13funding for this position um from

21:16another funding source. I believe it

21:17would be general funds uh to help out

21:19with the workload here in capital

21:21projects. Um that individual is very

21:24excited to have that opportunity and

21:26fits right in our culture right here.

21:30Um jumping into facility management and

21:33services. I kind of broke this apart in

21:35management and services is kind of two

21:37different things. U facility management

21:39is really they're doing a lot of work

21:42orders. Uh and this is the the the

21:45breakdown of the request and everything

21:47that's indicated as a P over there is a

21:50priorities. So what I would encourage

21:52everyone to do when they're looking down

21:53and trying to sharpen the pencil and

21:55find funding is really look to those

21:58priority numbers. The higher the

21:59priority number is is the more urgent

22:02need that we have for that position. Um,

22:06this is the staff that performs most of

22:07the work orders and general maintenance

22:09in and on our buildings and foundation

22:11inventory. Over the last year, the

22:13senior staff have identified several

22:15positions severely needed to properly

22:17distribute the workload. Many of the

22:19existing staff are wearing multiple hats

22:21and as I said earlier, they're starting

22:23to age out, so we're constantly putting

22:25more responsibilities on the staff that

22:28is, you know, getting closer and closer

22:29to the end of their um career here at

22:31the city. So, we need to add more

22:33positions and kind of spread that out a

22:35little bit more. Um, the most urgent

22:38priorities here really I would identify

22:40as one, two, and eight.

22:46Jumping over to parks ops. Uh, this is

22:49the staff that touches all of our

22:50managed green spaces throughout the

22:52city. And I hope everyone has

22:53opportunities to go out into our park

22:55system because it is it's absolutely

22:57wonderful to experience that throughout

22:59the day and on the weekends. Over the

23:02last year, senior staff have identified

23:04several positions to really need to

23:06properly distribute workload. Many of

23:08the existing staff are taking on new

23:10parks and grounds to maintain and

23:11beautify. The most urgent ones here

23:14again are the top three that I'm listing

23:16here, two, six, and seven.

23:23urban forestry. So, this is an

23:25interesting group. It's a very tight

23:26group. Um, they have certainly a tall

23:29order with the tens of thousands of

23:31trees that the city has and we have a

23:33fairly small urban forestry group. Um,

23:36there's also the the initiative to

23:38relief the city and that's going to need

23:42some additional staff to support that

23:43effort. So, the most urgent needs on

23:46this one would be five and nine. uh this

23:49would really almost double the size of

23:52urban forestry for what they are right

23:53now.

23:55>> This is just if I may um something that

23:59I've been uh a strong advocate for uh if

24:02for no other reason. I mean, we

24:05mentioned the urban canopy. Um, but

24:08another effort that we all hear plenty

24:11about is

24:14um the trimming of trees around power

24:18lines. And this crew will help um you

24:23know in the bearing of power line

24:25efforts or initiative.

24:28Not that they would be doing the actual

24:29bearing, but just having the uh

24:33uh crews available to plant trees back

24:36when we do drop power lines. So, um it's

24:40a hell of a crew they have over there

24:42and I think it makes a lot of sense to

24:45uh expand it. So, I wanted to just throw

24:47that in there, that plug in there for

24:49you, Edmond. [snorts]

24:50>> Thank you, Mayor. This this is a very

24:52hardworking group, too.

24:55>> Agreed.

24:56>> Okay. This is the kind of the second

24:58half of it. Uh, a little bit more than

24:59halfway through this. So, now there's

25:01the funding requests. We have that

25:02staffing that we need to do be doing

25:04work orders on a constant basis. And

25:06then there's the funding requests, which

25:08are, you know, contract maintenance. The

25:10contract managers are hiring stuff out

25:12and they're managing that. It's

25:14equipment. It's a lot of other things

25:15that help support the staffing. So, it's

25:17kind of a two-pronged approach here. And

25:19again, I realize that that's a very

25:21large number there.

25:24Um, this is broken down a little

25:26differently now because we're getting

25:27into the depths of facilities. Here on

25:29the left hand side is HVAC mechanical

25:31and finishes. Um, and you can kind of

25:34see the spread of type of work here. Um,

25:37same thing, you know, it's it's like

25:38owning a home. Your HVAC needs to be

25:40replaced. We have dozens of facilities

25:43throughout the city that we're dealing

25:45with this on a constant basis here. So,

25:47we're trying to prioritize the the

25:49projects that need these things the

25:51most. In some cases, we have the ability

25:53to kind of stretch the service life of

25:55some of these things. And in some cases,

25:57we're getting closer and closer to the

25:58end of that service life, which is

26:00increasing that priority right there.

26:02Um, in this particular case here, we're

26:05looking at um

26:09really five and 11 are the two biggest

26:13ones. Um, and James Island wreck pool

26:17and sand filters. That's a little bit

26:19more critical just because we're down a

26:20pool in our inventory right now. We will

26:22be down for the next two years. So, it's

26:24absolutely critical that we fund that

26:26one to make sure that that pool is is

26:28operating as it needs to because

26:30there'll probably be a little bit more

26:31strain on it for the next two years

26:33before we build the two new facilities.

26:37Um on the right hand side there, this is

26:39building system repairs. So, this is

26:41more of kind of the the life safety

26:43realm here. Um, we've identified

26:46multiple projects that are very high on

26:48the priority list and working with the

26:50fire marshall on this. Um, and we're

26:52still kind of flushing some of this

26:54stuff out. It is it is feasible

26:56sometimes to move these back because the

26:58service life can be extended a little

27:01bit more with minor repairs and we're

27:03certainly digging deep into that to see

27:05if we can get a little bit more service

27:06life out of this equipment uh to help

27:09reduce that that budget request. But we

27:12would identify as three, four, six, and

27:15seven as the most needy on that list on

27:18the right hand side there.

27:24We always love to talk about roofs and

27:26building envelopes because that's what

27:27keeps the weather out, especially when

27:28we have a 4-in rainstorm like we did

27:30earlier in the week. Um, roofs and

27:33building envelope is absolutely

27:34critical. And if if you don't keep those

27:37service life up on those things with

27:39repairs and eventual replacement, you

27:42get water damage into a building and

27:44that starts to spend a lot of money with

27:46remediation, air monitoring and stuff

27:49like that. And we always like to

27:51identify the roof and building envelope

27:53replacements early on so we can get

27:55ahead of that. We have been doing a

27:57really good job over the last several

27:59years with that and I hope we can

28:00continue to do that. The most urgent

28:03items here would be 9,14 and 16.

28:12Um, this is kind of lower on the list

28:14here, but some of these items have been

28:16on our list for a number of years. I

28:18think you all have probably seen this

28:20previously when when Jason Kronberg has

28:22presented this items like the Bay View

28:25ball safety netting. We we've gotten a

28:27lot of uh constituents that have asked

28:29about that recently. um parking lot re

28:32rehabilitations. We have gravel lots in

28:34most cases where we have to constantly

28:36groom them. We try to pave them when we

28:38can. So, we've built a number of these

28:41in here and these are really kind of the

28:42highlights and and the highest ranked

28:44ones or park structures sites and

28:46equipment.

28:50Parks ops. So, another large group, the

28:55largest in in parks department,

28:57hardworking individuals, constantly

28:59going out there and doing everything

29:01that they can. They need some support

29:03too from time to time. Uh, and it's not

29:05always staff that they need. We

29:07identified a number of things that would

29:09kind of help their um their efficiency,

29:11help them store materials, um help with

29:14areas that are heavy wear and tear like

29:16the Maran Square Farmers Market,

29:18artificial turf. There's so much time

29:20and money that goes into keeping that

29:22area green for the public and it gets so

29:24much use. So, you know, converting that

29:26over to official turf, that would be a

29:29big win and would help on the general

29:31operating cost reductions of trying to

29:33keep that that lawn and green and and

29:35looking wonderful. Um, of course, we

29:37always need vehicles and equipment to

29:40support that staff. Those are a little

29:42bit more higher ranked because those

29:44individuals, they're in their vehicles

29:45and they're using it this equipment

29:47every single day.

29:52Um, I'm circling back to urban forestry

29:54and mayor, this kind of picks up a

29:56little bit of what you were were

29:57mentioning. We have a lot of priority

30:00one removals identified and and that

30:02really should be very high on the

30:04priority list. Those are trees that you

30:07know are getting probably end of the

30:09their lifespan or that they have uh some

30:12disease or rot in it and they're being

30:14identified uh per the tree survey as

30:17being removed earlier than later.

30:24And this would also be some of this

30:25would be uh contract labor. Maybe some

30:29can be done with in-house labor, but

30:30again we're overt taxing the existing

30:32staff that we have on. So this may be

30:34contracted labor out as well.

30:39So this is just kind of a summary page.

30:42I know they're big numbers. Just want to

30:44reiterate, you know, 120 parks in our

30:46system, almost 2,000 acres of of parks

30:50and open space.

30:52Several hundred buildings and building

30:54space that we're constantly in doing

30:56work orders every day to keep these

30:57businesses open. uh keep employees in

31:00there working and keep our green spaces

31:02green and enjoyable for the public.

31:07This next slide is really just kind of a

31:09breakdown of where that those funding

31:11requests are. There are a lot facilities

31:14management and facility services.

31:16Um parks and urban forestry and

31:19horiculture, they have a kind of a mix

31:21in there too. Um, but we are growing

31:23from a facility standpoint. And we're

31:25growing very quickly. And that kind of

31:28segus into this last slide of questions,

31:31but I wanted you to kind of focus in on

31:33that that little um additional text that

31:36I added in there. It's a really proud

31:39number to see that in 12 years,

31:42165 projects and a billion dollars worth

31:45of assets. And I personally take a lot

31:47of pride in that because I came to the

31:48city about 13 years ago and I've been

31:52involved with just about every one of

31:53those projects. Obviously, the team has

31:55done all this stuff, but it's it's

31:58really impressive what we've done here.

32:00And this is circling back on grounds and

32:03facilities. They need to maintain all

32:05this all these facilities and spaces

32:07that we've developed. And that's part of

32:09the reason why we have such a large

32:11budget request right now. Any

32:15questions?

32:16>> Something to be proud of, Edmond. I

32:17mean, know you and your team. I mean,

32:19that's uh that's impressive. Not to

32:22mention, I love the stats on the U

32:25120 parks. I didn't think I don't I

32:28didn't quite realize we almost have

32:302,000 acres and um 211 buildings. That's

32:36That's kind of mind-blowing. U

32:37Councilman Wearing, you have a question?

32:40>> Yeah. Yeah. Um listen uh excellently

32:44pres presented man I almost felt like I

32:46was it was almost professorial like a

32:49professor in class. So very well done.

32:52Um you're right 165 projects a billion

32:55dollars. That's some person. Um let me

32:59ask this is a question more of um um

33:02Miss Wharton. uh when we fund uh you

33:06know parks department does all of that

33:09come from a majority of it come from

33:11general funds or do we

33:14>> operationally

33:17>> council wearing probably mostly

33:19operationally yes for some of the

33:21facilities the repairs and uh deferred

33:24maintenance on the facilities we could

33:26use other funding sources depending on

33:28the facility type

33:29>> so we look at that to see what other

33:31funding sources we can use,

33:34>> right? One of the things I'm thinking

33:36about was uh do we ever think about for

33:39instance White Point Gardens or even

33:41Marian Square? Obviously tourist visit.

33:43>> Yeah, we we do we use hospitality

33:45typically for those or one of the other

33:47tourism dollars for any any upgrades

33:50that we do or maintenance on those areas

33:52or in those areas.

33:53>> All right. And when we have this back to

33:56Thank you, Miss W. Back to Mr. Deose.

33:59Um, we have a several situations I

34:03believe where with nonprofits who fill a

34:07huge void, um, we let them use a city

34:11building, I don't know, for a dollar a

34:13year or something like that, you know.

34:14Um um

34:17and I'm think there's a building next to

34:20Dart Hall Library that the city owns and

34:22we let

34:24it's kind of like darkness the light you

34:26know it's very tough situation where

34:28abused children you know and families

34:31get counsel uh they have a a sewage

34:35situation I don't know if it's ever come

34:37to your attention where they've had that

34:39line cleaned out a number of times I

34:41really believe it's a situation where

34:44sewer line coming into the building uh

34:46probably needs to be replaced. Should

34:49something like that pop up,

34:53is there a carveout in a budget request

34:55that you have for example in front of us

34:57or we have to scramble in a different

34:59direction?

35:01>> Unforeseen costs like that, if that

35:03became like an emergency repair, we

35:05would go into um really just the

35:08maintenance budget to pay for that if it

35:10if it's something that that budget can

35:12absorb. We always know there's going to

35:14be unforeseen in all of our projects and

35:17all of our facilities. So, we try to

35:19account for that. Um, if we know it's

35:22coming, we want to identify it as a new

35:25program and have a cost and try to limp

35:27along until, you know, we can get

35:28approval on that. So, it really kind of

35:31just depends on the situation.

35:33>> Um, Council Wearing, if I could add to

35:35that, we also have deferred maintenance

35:38that we reserve every year for those

35:40types of things as well. So,

35:42>> Okay. Good. Thanks a lot. Thanks again,

35:44Mr. Mos, for your presentation. Well

35:46done.

35:47>> Welcome.

35:49>> Questions.

35:52>> Any I agree.

35:55I'm You know, Councilman Wearing, you

35:57didn't really give those same accolades

36:00on the presentation I gave, but

36:02[laughter] it's okay.

36:05>> Well, you know, I I had my sunglasses on

36:07with all those graphics you had up

36:09there.

36:09>> Yeah. [laughter]

36:12Thank you. I agree. That was very well

36:14done and um very thoughtful and um

36:18appreciate the time and effort that you

36:20and your team put into putting that

36:22together. And it is a big number. Uh we

36:25we um in all likelihood will not be able

36:28to uh accommodate everything, but uh I

36:31think it was very thorough and and

36:34um like I say, well thought out. So

36:36appreciate the effort there. any any

36:38other questions from any of the other um

36:41ad hoc committee members on uh this

36:45presentation.

36:50Okay, let's do we have another one?

36:53>> Nope, that was it, mayor.

36:56>> All right. Well, um

36:59uh if there's nothing else for the good

37:01of the cause, then uh this meeting I

37:04will call adjourned and appreciate

37:07everybody's Simon.

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