2026-09-28 - Committee on Public Works
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- This was a public hearing only; the committee took no votes. Councilor Miguel Sanchez was among the members present.
- Item 7, a petition to abandon the northerly portion of Utah Street from Spruce Street toward Atwells Avenue, was withdrawn at the petitioner's request, and no testimony was taken.
- Items 1 and 2, two petitions from Providence College to abandon south portions of Cland Street and Dante Street (spellings uncertain) next to college-owned lots, drew no speakers.
- Item 3, a petition to abandon two portions of Divine Street by the owners of 888 and 908 Eddy Street: their attorney said the street is a paper road, one part paved but serving only the two owners' lots and the other overgrown and impassable, and that the City Plan Commission recommended approval. An applicant said the street is constantly dumped on, that DPW calls go unanswered, and that the owners have been fined and have paid to clean it. A neighboring business owner opposed closing the paved block, saying it is a needed access route for his 22 employees, suppliers and customers because Eddy Street backs up in the afternoon. The applicants' attorney said an appraisal had just been delivered to the clerk. See Divine Street Abandonment Petition.
- Item 4, a petition by Destiny Partners LLC to abandon portions of Nancy Street north to Mercy Street: the applicant's attorney said the adjoining site is under a state remedial action plan, the land is used as a dumping ground, and the owner wants to fold the right-of-way into cleanup and keep it as a buffer without building on it. The owner also asked for the City's permission to clean and maintain an abandoned cemetery next to the site and agreed to grant access easements for families. The attorney asked for a chance to respond to the City's appraisal figure. See Nancy Street Abandonment Petition.
- Item 5, a petition to abandon a portion of West Park Street: the petitioner's attorney said police, fire, DPW, parks and planning raised no objections and the City Plan Commission voted unanimously in support, subject to an administrative subdivision and easements. The petitioner described a street light out for 10 years, no sidewalks and an aging fence at the end, and proposed to keep the street open for snow storage and maintain it. A neighbor's letter of support was entered.
- Item 6, a petition by a resident of 23 Western Street to abandon the dead-end northern terminus of Western Street, a parcel about 30 by 35 feet that she has used for parking for 25 years and wants to buy; the neighbor whose yard abuts it was notified by a note and did not object.
- The chair closed the hearing after the last speaker.
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00:33Vargas, if anybody is here to testify
00:35and you haven't filled it out yet, we
00:38got the testify sheets in there. You can
00:40put your name on it and all depends on
00:42which um case you want to work on it. We
00:45got bring new pens for you though. Don't
00:47take it.
00:58Good.
01:02It's 5:20.
01:04We're going to start a public hearing
01:06today. It's only a public hearing. We
01:09not we're not going to make decisions.
01:11We're not going to be boring. Is just
01:13listen to the concerns and the
01:15constituents.
01:17That's why we are here today. I want to
01:19welcome
01:20everyone. Thank you for taking your time
01:23and be here present.
01:25Um,
01:27call a meeting for order. Today is
01:29Monday, September 28th, 2026 at 5:30
01:33p.m. Say which meeting members are
01:36present.
01:38Thank you for being here. Uh, Councilman
01:40Justin Royers and Councilman Miguel
01:41Sanchez, your busy schedule.
01:45Welcome.
01:47Uh this time I would like to take uh
01:49item number seven out of order. Ask the
01:51clerk to read the item seven into the
01:53record please.
01:54>> So moved.
01:56>> No.
01:58No motion.
02:01petition from Jeffrey Padua Esquire
02:03Padwa Law LLC one park sweet 5 Proidence
02:06Rhode Island 0293 requesting to abandon
02:09the northerly portion of Utah Street
02:12starting at the intersection of Spruce
02:13Street and running south towards Atwells
02:15Avenue.
02:18>> Thank you. The petitioner has request
02:22that this matter be withdrawled and no
02:24testimony will be taken at this time.
02:29Um,
02:34okay.
02:48I have here two letters from the
02:51petitioner and plus in emails that we
02:54going to put in the record that they
02:56want this matter to withdraw for today.
03:00And that's being said. Now,
03:04uh, Madame Clerk, can you please read
03:07number one into the record?
03:10And
03:11want to ask the city sergeant to bring
03:13up the
03:16signing sheet for item one, please.
03:18>> Petitioner from Mroposa, assistant vice
03:21president, Providence College, one
03:22Cunningham Square, Providence, Rhode
03:23Island, 02908. requesting to abandon
03:26south portion of Cland Street from
03:28Sandingham Avenue abuing lots 196 197
03:32500 all owned by the Providence College.
03:37Thank you.
03:44I don't have anybody for number one.
03:49No.
03:55Uh, okay. That's number one. Nobody to
04:00testify.
04:03That's okay. Um,
04:05can you please
04:09Sergeant, can you please bring in number
04:10two?
04:12>> Number two is petition from Mark
04:13Proposa, assistant vice president,
04:15Province College, one Cunningham Square,
04:16Province, Rhode Island, 0298, requesting
04:18to abandon a south portion of Dante
04:20Street from Vento Street. Buing lots 28
04:23197 235 also owned by Providence
04:26College.
04:28>> Thank you.
04:30>> Anybody for number two? I guess it's the
04:33same
04:35person. Uh we don't have anybody
04:37neither. So
04:39can you please read number three?
04:44Sorry.
04:47Number three is petition of Kelly Morris
04:49Salvat Esquire Daryl Eva LLP one Turks
04:52Head Place sweet 1200 Proidence Rhode
04:54Island on behalf of 888 Eddie Street LLC
04:57and 908 Eddie Street LLC owner of the
04:59real property located at 888 Eddie
05:01Street Province Rhode Island requesting
05:04banning a portion of Divine Street.
05:06>> Thank you. Um Sergeant, can I have the
05:10she number three please?
05:26Thank you.
05:29>> Please state your name and where you're
05:31from for the record, please.
05:32>> Yes. Thank you. Uh good evening, Mr.
05:33Chairman, uh members of the committee.
05:34My name is Joseph Baxter. I'm an
05:36attorney here representing uh the
05:37applicant from Daryl Everett uh LLP. I'm
05:40standing in attorney uh Kelly Morris
05:42Salvatore Stead who submitted this
05:44application on behalf uh of our client.
05:50So I assume the uh the committee members
05:51of course have um received the petition
05:54uh and just by way of brief explanation.
05:56Uh I just wanted to generally describe
05:58the uh the plan as proposed uh for the
06:01abandonment of two portions of Divine
06:03Street. Um both of which are um paper
06:06roads. Uh one part being paved that's
06:09the part looking at the um the map and
06:12the survey provided in the petition.
06:14That would be the portion of Divine
06:15Street that is below Oxford Street. Um
06:17so that is currently passable but only
06:19services um you know my client's lot as
06:23well as the Abutters lot uh directly. Um
06:25both representatives um
06:29from the uh the applicants the two
06:30applicants who have joined in the one
06:32petition are here as well. Um and also
06:34going on to the portion of Divine Street
06:36that uh we seek to abandon uh above
06:38Oxford Street uh that is currently
06:40covered by uh vegetation um and it's not
06:44passable um at this point uh by any
06:46vehicle traffic. Uh as you'll also see
06:49in the um the CPC um letter that they
06:52forwarded after their hearing on this
06:54matter, they do um recommend um approval
06:57uh of this petition for the abandonment,
06:59noting that it uh likely won't have any
07:01adverse uh outcome. uh as far as traffic
07:04goes or utilization of these portions of
07:06Divine Street. Uh one last point I'd
07:09like to note uh as well, the portion uh
07:12of Divine Street below Oxford that is
07:14passable uh or that it is paved um
07:16currently is just kind of accumulating
07:18debris uh a couple of mattresses uh and
07:21other things like that. Um but again,
07:23it's not uh servicing um you know
07:27servicing as a roadway or anything like
07:28that. Um, so with that, I'd be happy to
07:30answer any questions um of the members
07:33or or introduce either of the applicants
07:35if they'd like to hear from them as
07:36well.
07:39>> Any question for the
07:42council Roy
07:52does uh yes,
07:55yes, I talked to him today. Yeah, it's
07:59is where
08:01uh council, do you know that they have
08:03they had to pay some some money for this
08:07property, right? They know about it.
08:09>> Yes. Um I did speak with the uh the
08:11clerk's office regarding that and uh it
08:12was indicated that we received the uh
08:14the hard copy tonight um of the
08:16appraisal and obviously we're expecting
08:18that and we'll look everything over.
08:22>> Thank you.
08:23>> Thank you,
08:25>> Mr. Dan. Gora Goragan.
08:31Sorry if I don't pronounce your name
08:32right. So sorry.
08:35>> It's okay. I'm not surprised. It's
08:36pronounced Gori Ron. My name is Dan
08:38Goran.
08:40I own Hookfast Specialties which is on
08:42Seymour Street between Divine Connects
08:46Seymour and Oxford. Um Hookfast is a
08:49100-year-old company. We've been at
08:51location on Seymour Street for 60 years.
08:54Uh it is uh Divine Street is just below
08:57Eddie Street. It is an access point for
09:00us, my 22 employees, my suppliers, my
09:04customers to get quick access to Allen's
09:07Avenue to go 95 North. Uh Eddie Street
09:10in the afternoon is blocked. It's a
09:12traffic, you know, it's a it's a parking
09:14lot in the afternoon. So it is one block
09:17from Divine Street to Eddie Street.
09:20Eddie Street is block traffic. Every one
09:24of my staff goes to Vine Street and goes
09:26down Oxford to get to Allen's Avenue.
09:29So, this is a critical piece of street
09:31for us. So, closing it. Yeah. You're
09:33going to add minutes every day. We've
09:36been running in that location for 60
09:38years. We want to be good neighbors. We
09:41know the owners.
09:43I don't think we should close the
09:44street. It's too important to us. It's a
09:45critical artery for the operation of my
09:48business. So, I'm pleading with you not
09:50to close it. Any
09:54question for Mr.
09:57Council Royess?
10:14>> Okay.
10:16>> This
10:18Yeah, I got a question. This little
10:19street they're talking about is
10:22I was there yesterday
10:26is a paper street behind the buildings.
10:29It's two buildings A88 and 908.
10:33>> Correct. This is one part. This is the
10:35only part of Divine Street that connects
10:37Seymour to Oxford. It's an actual
10:40street. It's paved. It's maintained.
10:42Now, I understand the frustration of
10:44trash being dumped in that street
10:45because I deal with public works all the
10:47time. I'm on Seymour Street, which is a
10:49dead end street. Our street gets dumped
10:51on all the time and I work closely with
10:53public works and they're great. They
10:55come and pick up the trash. My staff
10:57goes out there and picks up debris on
10:58the road. We handle all the plowing of
11:01the street before the city gets there
11:02usually because we have to have staff
11:04coming in. Again, I have 22 employees on
11:06Seymour Street. This is really important
11:08to us for our operation.
11:11>> Thank you very much for this.
11:12>> Thank you for your consideration.
11:26Can you please read
11:29number one?
11:33>> Uh,
11:37we have you on here.
11:38>> I'm I'm I'm not I'm one of the
11:40applicants.
11:42>> My My name is Jason Sister. I didn't I
11:44didn't sign on that because I was the
11:45applicant.
11:49Thank you.
12:16Thank you very much. Uh, Mr. Jason,
12:19>> good evening. U, my name is Jason Sisto.
12:21I'm one of the applicants uh for 888 and
12:24908 Eddie Street. Um, with respect to
12:27the section of Divine Street that the
12:29previous gentleman was just speaking to,
12:31that street is constantly filled with
12:35debris. Um, there there have been boats,
12:38trailers, u, mattresses. Um, We've had
12:41numerous uh calls into DPW. They do not
12:44respond. We've actually been fined. Uh
12:47both myself and the other applicant have
12:49been fined. You can check the records
12:51because we actually go there, take all
12:53the stuff from the streets, put it on
12:55our on the sidewalk. So that way our
12:57vehicles can pass and people can pass.
12:59As far as access, that street is uh
13:02pretty much a dead end. On one end of
13:04the street is Meeting Street School. So
13:07you can't go I mean you only go from
13:09Meeting Street School to um uh the
13:12opposite side of the street which is the
13:14other side that we're we're abandoning.
13:16So to get back and forth to Allen's A
13:18you would go up one of the other side
13:19streets. You would not go through Divine
13:22to get to Allen's Avenue. There's no
13:24direct access to Allen's Avenue from
13:25Divine. So abandoning this really would
13:29less of a burden on the city, less of a
13:30burden on DPW and us. I mean we're at
13:32the point right now where the trash is
13:34just enormous and it gets to the point
13:37where we're forced not to pick it up and
13:40not to clean it and let the street just
13:41be overburdened and let DPDW deal with
13:44it as they so wish. And we've tried not
13:47to do that. We've been good neighbors.
13:48We spent thousands and thousands of
13:50dollars of our own money in cleaning up
13:52the street and cleaning up that area.
13:54So, I would compel you guys to actually
13:57look at it from that perspective that
13:59and and this is going to be put back
14:00onto the tax ro. It's going to be a a
14:02much better use than what it currently
14:04is versus having the inconvenience as he
14:07said a few minutes out of the way. So,
14:09thank you for your time.
14:11>> Thank you very much.
14:15Okay,
14:20Madame Craig, can you please read number
14:21four?
14:23>> Number four. Petition from Dylan
14:24Connley, Esquire, Rhode Island Land Use
14:26Law, 123 Dia Street, 3B, Proven, Rhode
14:29Island, 02903, on behalf of Destiny
14:31Partners LLC, requesting to abandon
14:34portions of Nancy Street ing north until
14:36it reaches Mercy Street.
14:40>> Sergeant, can I get the list on number
14:41four?
14:50>> Thank you.
15:02Uh, my jersey.
15:14Are you for number five?
15:17>> This is number four.
15:19>> Did you Did you do the right one, Matt?
15:21Right on the right one.
15:26number. Um,
15:32>> he pick up the
15:37>> Make sure they're
15:57Sorry about that.
16:00Mr. Lily Porchfield.
16:15>> Thank you.
16:16>> Hi there.
16:18>> Welcome.
16:19>> Thank you.
16:21I am here to support this project. Um,
16:24and I will defer to Dylan Connley for
16:26the rest.
16:44Bwork
16:46driver.
17:19Mr. Mark.
17:20>> Mark. Sorry, we can't pronounce your
17:22last name. I'm sorry.
17:22>> So sorry.
17:26>> Sorry about that. Just please state your
17:28name for the record.
17:29>> Hi, Mark.
17:30>> Hi, Mark Plimpmpton. Um, I'm here to
17:32support this project, but I'll defer to
17:34uh my attorney, Dylan Conley.
17:41>> Okay, that's the case. Can I call Dylan
17:44Collie?
17:54>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
17:55>> Welcome,
17:56>> Dylan Connley. On behalf of the
17:57applicant, I do have some materials I
18:00want to present. Um, May I approach the
18:02clerk?
18:30>> Mr. Mr. Chairman, this is um a project
18:32that the sort of legal proceedings about
18:35it are somewhat complex because of the
18:37the size of the road and the number of
18:39parcels involved, but conceptually it's
18:42actually pretty quite simple. There's a
18:44uh an a paper street, you know, an
18:47unimproved street behind our lot. Our
18:50lot is subject to our remedial action uh
18:53plan with DEM. So we have a lot of site
18:55cleanup that we need to do and so we
18:58would like to acquire the entirety of
19:00the paper street the entirety of it and
19:03basically roll that into our uh
19:05environmental cleanup efforts and roll
19:08it into the overall site development
19:10which we plan to do over the course of
19:12many years. There's also an abandoned
19:15cemetery. Uh and uh Bob Azar was aware
19:19of a law that allows for us to petition
19:22to maintain a public cemetery. And so
19:25we're petitioning to do that as well. Um
19:27so in the same way that we want to clean
19:29up the site in its entirety, want to
19:31clean and maintain the cemetery. We
19:32don't want to acquire the cemetery, but
19:35we do want the it's it's used as a dummy
19:37ground right now. And if you look at the
19:39back of our petition, you'll see a
19:41series of photos, uh, not in the
19:44document just handed out, but in our
19:45petition, there's a series of photos
19:47that show sort of the tires, the
19:51mattresses, um, and the junk associated
19:54with it. But in the materials that were
19:56just handed out,
19:59we are the owners of the yellow parcel.
20:05The green area is the
20:08right of way we're seeking to have
20:09abandoned and the blue area is the
20:13cemetery that we're looking to basically
20:16get the city's permission to clean and
20:18maintain.
20:20And so when you flip the page, you can
20:22see how it becomes one cohesive site if
20:26we are able uh to have the rightway
20:29abandoned and to acquire it.
20:32It's
20:34a relatively large area, but again,
20:36subject to the DEM uh remedial action
20:39plan and uh it's not really buildable
20:42with the exception of use on our
20:44property. So, we don't think we're
20:47really causing any any concerns or
20:49creating any problems. We're really just
20:50kind of cleaning up the area around our
20:52site as a portion of uh our efforts on
20:55our site. Uh I'm happy to answer
20:57questions. Uh I did receive uh the
21:00appraisal figure. Uh we would like the
21:03ability to respond to the appraisal
21:04figure. Uh, and we would like the
21:06ability to present to uh the city what
21:10our what we understand our costs to be
21:13to clean the site up and to maintain the
21:15cemetery so that we can use that uh
21:20potentially through the uh P
21:23uh to acquire for less than the cited
21:26figure uh because essentially all we're
21:28doing with the real estate is cleaning
21:29it. It's it's dirty. It's a dumping
21:31ground. So that's what we're looking to
21:33do.
21:37Uh, thank you, Dylan. Um, quick
21:40question. So, I'm not sure if I missed
21:41this. So, the your your applicant
21:44doesn't have any intention to to develop
21:46on it at any point or
21:49>> not within the green, which is the
21:51abandoned portion.
21:54Right now, our site access off of
21:57Planefield. The green area is behind a
22:00series of backyards, and we have a lot
22:02of drill sites in this that show that
22:04this is contaminated. So no development
22:07at all on the blue. That's the cemetery.
22:09We're just going to maintain that. And
22:11the green area we intend to use
22:12basically as buffer but not to build on
22:16it directly. So we don't anticipate any
22:19structure in this space. We anticipate
22:21site access and we anticipate um
22:25basically just maintaining and improving
22:27the area so that we're not new
22:29construction next to an illegal dumping
22:31ground. That's sort of what we're trying
22:33to avoid. But any any development
22:35proposal would be subject to planning
22:38and zoning review, zoning standards, the
22:40whole nine. I have nothing like in that
22:42regard today.
22:44>> Um, just to clarify, the the yellow
22:46section that is currently owned by the
22:49applicants.
22:50>> Yes, there's there's some section here
22:53that has some additional title
22:55challenges that have uh we're working
22:57with the city on. Uh the city was about
23:02this real estate, passed a resolution to
23:04acquire this real estate from Almax, but
23:07then never actually recorded the deed.
23:09Uh, so that's another item that we need
23:11to work with the P on. Uh, but this area
23:14in green is the public right away that
23:17we're looking at abandoning tonight. And
23:19this area in blue is the cemetery
23:21>> and everything south of the green, all
23:25that yellow that's currently owned by
23:27the your applicants, right?
23:29>> That's correct. Uh we have recently
23:31completed a a partial adaptive reuse
23:34project in the commercial building on
23:36the site. Uh we have frontage on both
23:39Planefield and Murray. I've been working
23:42with the planning department fairly
23:44regularly on this over the course of
23:46years and plan to continue to do so.
23:48Essentially phase development over time.
23:59No questions.
24:02Do we have a a right away for the
24:06family members of this little cemetery?
24:10Do you have any idea how many people has
24:12been buried there?
24:14>> We don't uh but we are happy to grant
24:16easement and access easement uh to the
24:18cemetery across uh our real estate both
24:21directly from uh Planefield
24:24and we would work on that with the
24:26planning department.
24:30I would like to have like a little ement
24:33like a right away for people to come and
24:35visit in the future because you and I
24:37won't be here but you you don't know if
24:40they got family that they want to come
24:42back and visit and drop some flowers.
24:45>> No, no issue with that at all. Again,
24:48improving that and maintaining that is
24:50one of our goals. It's just a dumping
24:51ground right now. So, very happy to
24:53grant access to the families of the
24:55deceased.
24:57Any
24:59other questions?
25:01>> Thank you very much.
25:02>> Thank you.
25:12>> Number five. We don't move members in
25:15this one. Can you read number five?
25:20>> Number five. Petition from Eric Bright,
25:22124 West Park Street, Province, Rhode
25:24Island 0298, requesting to abandon a
25:26portion of West Park Street.
25:28>> Now we have Mr. M.
25:38>> Thank Thank [clears throat] you, Mr.
25:39Chairman, and good evening, councelor
25:41Sanchez and Royus. Madam clerk, I'm here
25:44representing the petitioner Eric
25:46Brightite of 124 West Park Street,
25:48[snorts]
25:48uh who petitioned the city back in June
25:51regarding the
25:54uh
25:55135 West Park Street. Uh the petitioner
25:58owns the plat 67 and lots 161, 246,
26:04555, 163, and 245, which are all the
26:08related abuing parcels. Uh he is here
26:11tonight. he will testify after me and
26:13will speak to the difficulties that he
26:16and the neighbors have had with this
26:17particular uh road. Um I just did want
26:21to inform the committee that police,
26:23fire, DPW, parks and planning uh raised
26:28no objections to this petition. uh came
26:31before the city plan commission in
26:33August and they unanimously voted in
26:36support of the abandonment petition
26:38subject to an administrative subdivision
26:42and granting any necessary easements
26:44both uh both of which the petitioner is
26:46willing uh is willing to do. We also
26:50have a a letter of support from neighbor
26:52Neil Kaplan if I may submit it to the
26:55clerk.
27:06And with that, Mr. Chairman, I'm happy
27:07to answer any questions. And if not,
27:08I'll turn it over to the applicant, Mr.
27:10Akbrite.
27:13>> Thank you. Any question for
27:16the council?
27:17>> Thank you very much.
27:17>> Thank you.
27:18>> Thank you.
27:22Now, I want to enter this letter in
27:23support for number five. Thank you.
27:29>> Welcome, Mr. Eric.
27:31>> Good evening.
27:32>> Good evening, sir.
27:34>> May I approach the clerk with some
27:38visuals,
27:38>> please?
27:58Go ahead.
27:58>> Please state your name for the record.
28:00>> Uh Eric Bright.
28:06Um so I uh
28:09have property on both side of the road
28:11and my neighbor Ray Swin has the end of
28:13the road who's here tonight. The the
28:16main issue is uh the neglect. Um, the
28:19street light hasn't worked for 10 years.
28:21Um, the sidewalks don't exist. It's
28:25overgrown.
28:27Uh, there's a fence at the end which is
28:29about to fall down. Um,
28:32one of the measures we were going to do
28:34is put some jersey barriers at the end
28:37uh of the street, but that would make
28:39the street look rather blighted. So, if
28:42you take a look at what I um presented,
28:46that's the proposal to deal with the
28:48safety issue at the end of the street um
28:51and the street lamp that's there. Uh I
28:55would put that on my own electric bill.
28:58And we would keep the street open as you
29:00see so that in the winter time when they
29:04do snow, when they do plow the street,
29:06there'll be somewhere to put the snow at
29:07the end.
29:11And the idea is to beautify the street
29:15um and
29:18take care of the visual blight.
29:22>> Okay. Any question for Mr.
29:26>> Thank you very much, sir.
29:27>> You're welcome.
29:28>> Thank you.
29:40Okay. Can you please read number
29:44six?
29:47Petition from Sanderly,
29:5123 Western Street, Province, Rhode
29:52Island, 0296, requesting to abandon the
29:54northern terminus of Western Street.
29:57>> Thank you.
29:58>> You're welcome. Um, Sandra Lee,
30:04welcome.
30:06>> Thank you.
30:08>> Good evening and thank you all for being
30:10here. I appreciate your time tonight. My
30:13name is Sandra Lee and I live at 23
30:16Western Street in the Mount Hope section
30:20of the east side of Providence.
30:22I'm petitioning to have the northern
30:25terminus of Western Street abandoned.
30:29That small parcel which is 30 feet wide
30:34and 35 ft deep, literally dead ends in
30:38front of my front door. And for 25
30:41years, it's provided me a parking space
30:45um for my vehicle.
30:48What I want to do is purchase that and
30:51absorb it into my lot so that in the
30:54future I will have a legal parking space
30:57because right now um that that belongs
31:02to the city
31:04and um as I was told by
31:10one of the DPW guys that doesn't legally
31:14allow me to have a parking space And so
31:18I'm asking the city of Providence to
31:21allow me to um purchase that and absorb
31:25it into my lot for my home.
31:29Are there any questions?
31:34>> I only have one of butter.
31:36>> I was going to ask that.
31:38>> Okay.
31:40>> The
31:42I was looking at Google map. the
31:45neighbor who is at the end, do he use
31:49the backyard for something towards with
31:52the three ends
31:54>> at the end?
31:55>> So that's what I was just speaking to.
31:58The man
31:59is on Duncan Avenue and his backyard is
32:04the southern terminus
32:06of his yard which abuts the northern
32:09terminus of Wes Street. But for all the
32:12time we've been neighbors, there's
32:13always been fence there
32:16and he never comes over on that side,
32:20you know, and his backyard is is just a
32:24mode lawn with a bunch of nice hostas
32:28and he doesn't utilize
32:31the terminus of Western Street at all.
32:33He doesn't have access to it unless he
32:35walks all the way around the block
32:39and comes to my house.
32:41Does that answer your question?
32:45You do you own the one across the street
32:48from you?
32:48>> Yes. Yes, that was your question. I'm
32:50sorry. Yes, I own that. So, I'm a butter
32:54there.
32:58>> Have you talked to the neighbor? The one
33:02with the street ends?
33:05>> That's way on the other side of my lot.
33:09>> No, no. like 123
33:1323 Western Street, right?
33:16>> When the the tree ends a little while
33:18there, that's a neighbor that his
33:21backyard is into that tree.
33:23>> Yes. I sent him I wrote him a handmade
33:26note and I put it in his mailbox
33:29couple of months ago letting him know
33:32about all of this. And I haven't heard a
33:34peep from him. I see him in the backyard
33:36sometimes and we say hello.
33:39He he he
33:40doesn't have any use for that land, but
33:45um he has been informed
33:48of what I intend to do or what I'm
33:50trying to do, I should say. Does that
33:53answer your question?
33:55>> Yes. Any other question for
34:00>> I just want to thank your city clerk
34:03here, Sher Petronia. She's been so
34:05patient with me.
34:06>> You're welcome.
34:08Thank you very much for your testimony.
34:09>> Thank you.
34:10>> Thank you.
34:17>> Okay, seeing that this is the last one,
34:21we don't have no more names on it. I
34:24want to
34:26conclude the public hearing. I want to
34:28say thank you to everyone for coming
34:30today. Have a safe night and let's see
34:33you on the next sign. Thank you.
