2026-08-13 - Board of County Commissioners

11:33Mhm.

11:38>> Good afternoon and welcome to our August

11:4113th, 2026

11:43regular meeting of the Forsyth County

11:45Board of Commissioners.

11:47Citizens who are interested in

11:49participating in the public session

11:52portion of the meeting, please call

11:54336-422-1200.

11:59That's 336-422-1200.

12:04You will be placed on hold until the

12:06public session begins. Members of the

12:09audience who are interested in

12:11participating in the public session

12:13portion of the meeting, please fill out

12:15a speaker card and return it to our

12:18clerk.

12:19If you're here to speak about UDO CC34,

12:23UDO CC36,

12:26or the limited obligation bond financing

12:29amendment, you do not need to fill out a

12:32speaker card. The public hearing for

12:35these items are held on the are first on

12:38the agenda. We will begin our meeting

12:41with a moment of silence followed by the

12:44Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner

12:46Woodbury. Please stand if you're able.

13:01Amen.

13:04>> Is it to the flag

13:05of the United States of America,

13:08and to the republic for which it stands,

13:11one nation under God,

13:13indivisible, with liberty and justice

13:16for all.

13:25>> The first item on the agenda a public

13:28hearing on an ordinance amendment

13:30proposed by planning and development

13:32service staff to modify chapters 2, 3,

13:36and 4 of the unified development

13:38ordinance to comply with North Carolina

13:41House Bill 926,

13:43UDO CC34. Chris Murphy, the planning and

13:48development staff director, will give a

13:50brief overview of the request. Thank

13:53you, Mr. Murphy.

13:55>> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um members of

13:57Board of County Commissioners, good

13:58afternoon. Uh this is a request of

14:00planning and development services staff

14:02to amend uh chapters 2, 3, and 4 of the

14:04UDO

14:05uh by removing submittal resubmittal

14:07limits for withdrawn or denied

14:09applications, modifying provisions for

14:11development requests uh with split

14:13jurisdiction,

14:15and clarifying vested rights in

14:16compliance with North Carolina House

14:18Bill 926.

14:20Just a little bit of background. In

14:21October 2025, the North Carolina General

14:23Assembly passed House Bill 926, which

14:26was known as the Regulatory Reform Act

14:28of 2025.

14:30Uh it was a broadly crafted bill uh

14:32limiting government regulations on

14:34various topics. I believe there were I

14:37don't know, 30, 40 [clears throat] pages

14:39of things, numerous sections, but only

14:41two sections of the bill, section 11 and

14:43section 29, uh addressed any local

14:46planning and development regulations. Uh

14:48section 11 uh prohibits waiting periods

14:51for refiling development applications in

14:53the event an application is withdrawn or

14:55denied.

14:57And section 29 clarifies vested rights

15:00for previously approved development, and

15:02also amends uh the standards for

15:04development petitions whenever you have

15:06a property that's in two zoning

15:08jurisdictions.

15:12Uh planning and development services

15:13staff, in in conjunction with both the

15:15city and county attorneys' offices,

15:17reviewed the UDO and determined that the

15:18following sections would need to to

15:20modified.

15:21Uh UDO section 2.7.2.C

15:26would be amended to clarify provisions

15:28regarding vested rights and special use

15:30permits as outlined in the bill.

15:33Section 3.2.19.A.15

15:38uh would be deleted and marked as

15:39reserved to comply with the statutory

15:42prohibition prohibition on waiting

15:44periods for resubmittals.

15:46And section 4.3.2.D

15:49would be changed to mirror the split

15:51jurisdiction provisions in the bill.

15:55Uh the aforementioned changes are

15:57necessary to ensure that the UDO does

15:59comply with that statutory language as

16:01outlined in the bill.

16:03Uh this was heard by the planning board

16:05at their March 12th, 2026 public

16:07hearing. There were no speakers in

16:09opposition and following that public

16:10hearing, the planning board did

16:12unanimously recommend approval of this

16:14to both the city council and the board

16:15of county commissioners.

16:17And with that, I can answer any

16:18questions that you might have.

16:20>> Questions?

16:22Thank you, Chris. This is a public

16:25hearing. Speakers will have up to 15

16:27minutes total to speak in favor of this

16:31uh request and up to 15 minutes total to

16:35speak in opposition.

16:37Is there anyone here wishing to speak in

16:40favor

16:41of this position?

16:45Is there anyone here wishing to speak in

16:47opposition to this position?

16:52I will declare the public hearing

16:54closed. Is there a motion?

17:00>> So moved.

17:02>> Have a motion to approve by Commissioner

17:05Parker. Is there a second?

17:09Second by Commissioner Linville.

17:12Is there some discussion? Commissioner

17:14Bessie.

17:16>> Thank you, ma'am chair. Just briefly, I

17:18think that the legislative decision to

17:20eliminate

17:22waiting periods for refiling uh

17:25will prove to be a mistake and they will

17:27hear from jurisdictions about it, but

17:29they did pass it, so we have to adopt

17:31it, unfortunately.

17:32>> All right.

17:33Further discussion.

17:35All in favor, please say I.

17:37>> I.

17:39>> In opposition, say no.

17:41That is approved approved to

17:43unanimously.

17:45The next item on the agenda is a public

17:48hearing on an ordinance amendment

17:50proposed by erosion control and storm

17:54water staff to modify sections 8.1.1

17:58E1 of the

18:01of the unified development ordinance as

18:04required by the national flood insurance

18:06program UDO CC 36.

18:11Uh Chris Murphy of planning and

18:13development will

18:15he will

18:16give an overview. Thank you, Chris.

18:20>> Good afternoon again. Yes, this this

18:21proposed change would modify chapter 8

18:23of the UDO by updating the effective

18:26date of the flood insurance rate map or

18:29the firm map uh panels and adding a

18:33provision allowing the UDO to

18:34acknowledge future map changes without

18:37additional amendments to the UDO. We

18:40might still amend it, but hopefully we

18:41wouldn't be under the gun to amend it as

18:43quickly as we're doing here.

18:46Uh in June of 2026,

18:48erosion control storm water staff were

18:50instructed by the North Carolina

18:52Department of Public Safety to update

18:53the effective date of the firm panels in

18:55the UDO to June 10th of 2026.

18:59Uh the updated effective date of the

19:00firm panels is due to two flood studies

19:03conducted in Guilford and Stokes

19:05counties and the studies updated nine

19:08firm panels whose boundaries overlap

19:10with portions of Forsyth County.

19:13Acknowledging the most updated effective

19:16date of the firm panels is necessary to

19:19to maintain compliance with federal

19:20regulations which give Forsyth County

19:22residents access

19:24to federal flood insurance policies.

19:26And unfortunately, I mean, I wouldn't

19:28want anyone to lose their flood

19:29insurance, but it wouldn't just be the

19:31non-affected panels. It would be

19:32everyone within Forsyth County if we did

19:34not update this effective date.

19:38Uh

19:39this is just a map showing where those

19:40flood panels did change. I believe there

19:43are seven along the Guilford County line

19:44and two along the Stokes County line.

19:48Again, that's outlined it's circled in

19:52kind of a burgundy color

19:54on that map.

19:57Uh a little bit of analysis, the erosion

19:59control stormwater staff worked with the

20:00city and county attorneys' offices to

20:03review the UDO and determine that

20:05section 8.1.1E1

20:08would need to be amended by

20:10first updating the effective date from

20:12January 2nd of 2009, which was the last

20:15updated panels that we're aware of

20:17within the county, uh to that June 10th

20:20of 2026 date, and then also adding a

20:23provision to acknowledge future map

20:24changes to firm panels again without

20:26having to necessarily come back and

20:28update that date in the ordinance.

20:32Uh the aforementioned changes are

20:33necessary to ensure that the UDO

20:35complies with current federal and state

20:37regulations.

20:39Uh a public hearing was held by the

20:41planning board at their July 9th, 2026

20:43meeting. Uh there were no speakers in

20:44opposition, and following the public

20:46hearing,

20:47the planning board did vote unanimously

20:49to recommend approval of this text

20:50amendment both to the city council and

20:52the county commissioners.

20:54As I mentioned on Monday when I was

20:55briefing this, uh Keith Huff and I were

20:58dividing and conquering because this

20:59meeting went a little bit longer than we

21:01thought it was going to go. So, he went

21:03to uh be at the city council committee

21:05meeting because again, this is on such a

21:07short time frame.

21:09I'm here to answer any technical

21:10question Excuse me, any procedural

21:12questions related to this, but Keith

21:14Huff is here to answer any technical

21:16questions if there are any related to

21:17this test a minute. And with that, I

21:20stand ready to answer any questions.

21:22>> Questions?

21:24Okay, this is a public hearing. Speakers

21:27will have up to 15 minutes total to

21:29speak in favor of the request and up to

21:3215 minutes total to speak in opposition.

21:35Is there anyone here wishing to speak in

21:37favor?

21:40Is there anyone here wishing to speak in

21:42opposition?

21:44Please come forward. State your name and

21:46address for the record, please.

21:52>> Hello, commission.

21:53Mike Klein Tob, 822 West 4th Street,

21:57downtown, Winston-Salem.

22:00Um, how much is this going to cost?

22:10>> Is there anyone else wishing to speak in

22:12opposition?

22:15I declare the public hearing closed. Do

22:18we have a motion?

22:20>> Approved.

22:21>> Motion to approve by Vice Chair

22:24uh

22:25Wilson.

22:26Is there a second?

22:28>> Second.

22:29>> Second by Commissioner Bessie. All in

22:32favor, please say I.

22:34>> I.

22:35>> In opposition?

22:38I will. I'm sorry.

22:40Go ahead.

22:42Go ahead.

22:44>> My question was, um, how much does it

22:46cost?

22:50>> I'm not sure what the nature of that

22:51question even means. It's not shouldn't

22:53cost anything. It basically all this is

22:55going to allow would be for citizens to

22:57continue to be able to purchase

23:00flood insurance.

23:02>> okay.

23:02>> Correct. For for properties that are

23:03located within the flood plain. So,

23:05there should be no cost

23:07uh to us. This literally is updating the

23:09date in the map uh in the UDO uh to the

23:13most current

23:15effective date, which again will allow

23:17citizens to continue to purchase flood

23:19insurance policies.

23:20>> Thank you.

23:21>> And I'll

23:22>> why I asked the question, anytime a

23:24citizen comes before me and maybe brings

23:27something to my attention that I'm not

23:29familiar with, I want to know the

23:31answer. So, that's the reason for the

23:33question. But, thank you.

23:37>> Madam Chair.

23:37>> Yes.

23:38>> Um my guess is that the citizen may have

23:41been asking about um

23:43cost of complying with the updated flood

23:46maps.

23:48And I see a nod. Um perhaps Mr. Huff

23:50could could comment.

23:53Um I

23:54with with all with with due respect, um

24:00I think that

24:01it's to everyone's advantage to comply

24:04with actual current best information on

24:08what's going to flood in the event of a

24:10a storm, and um extra costs of doing so

24:14are are well worth it for property

24:17owners in the long run. But,

24:19Mr. Huff.

24:20>> Yeah,

24:21ab- absolutely. Uh good afternoon, Madam

24:23Chairman, members of the County

24:24Commission. Uh Commissioner Be- Bessie

24:27is absolutely right. We update these

24:29maps as a a federal requirement of FEMA,

24:33and we have a lot of subsidies coming to

24:36us from the FEMA flood insurance

24:38policies and whatnot. They actually our

24:41compliance with this gives citizens a

24:43discount on their flood insurance policy

24:47if they are in a special flat uh flood

24:49hazard area. So, if we do not comply

24:52with them, they will pay actuarial cost

24:55what they we call actuarial cost for

24:57those flood insurance policies. I e.

24:59they won't get the discounts. So,

25:02failing to comply would cost the

25:04citizens more.

25:07>> Thank you.

25:10>> Okay. I I'm sorry I that I didn't ask

25:13for discussion, but we had a vote

25:15an approval and a second. All in favor

25:17say I.

25:18>> I.

25:19>> Opposed? That's unanimous.

25:22The next item on the agenda is a public

25:25hearing concerning the approval of the

25:27execution and delivery of the first

25:29contract amendment to an ins-

25:32installment finance contract for

25:35Lee Plunkett,

25:38assistant CFO, will give a brief

25:41overview. Thank you.

25:43>> Good afternoon, commissioners. Uh the

25:44public hearing concerns the approval of

25:46the execution and delivery of the first

25:48contract amendment and the projects that

25:50finances.

25:51This financing is being called the 2026

25:54limited obligation bond. These projects

25:56include, but not limited to,

25:58improvements to public safety, EMS,

26:00fire, detention, administrative

26:02warehouse, and other governmental

26:04facilities.

26:05The projects were contemplated and

26:07approved in the budget ordinance related

26:09to the fiscal year 27 CIP.

26:12And the resolution adopted on July 30th

26:14authorized the county to enter into an

26:16amendment called the first contract

26:18amendment to its existing installment

26:20financing contract from 2021.

26:23And that contract funded the courthouse,

26:25coliseum, and airport projects and used

26:28the courthouse as collateral.

26:30Since this is a new financing and it's

26:32an amendment to the original contract,

26:34it will also use the courthouse as

26:35collateral. Uh this this hearing allows

26:37interested parties to present comments

26:39on the financing, and I'm happy to

26:40answer any questions.

26:42>> Questions?

26:44I do have um a question that we've

26:46already sort of maybe prepped you for

26:49because I had county manager to um call

26:52you because I was unclear about how this

26:552026

26:58limited interim limited obligation bond

27:00connected to a 2021

27:03bond. So could you just reiterate for

27:05the good of the public to

27:08connect those dots for all of us?

27:09>> Yeah, absolutely. So in 2021 we issued

27:13limited obligation bonds and we do that

27:15using an installment financing contract.

27:18And that is based upon collateral that

27:20we provided at the time which was the

27:21courthouse. And the courthouse funded

27:23those projects that we just talked

27:24about. And so

27:27our statute allows us to go and amend

27:29that original contract so we can use the

27:31courthouse collateral and

27:33and to obtain additional financing and

27:36proceeds to fund these new projects.

27:38>> Okay, so essentially the courthouse was

27:42collateral used to fund

27:44the airport and collidium. Now we need

27:49to collateralize it to fund

27:52the upkeep of our county facilities.

27:56>> Yeah, so it's a variety of smaller

27:58projects around the county for the

27:59detention center, EMS, fire, some other

28:02other places like that. So it allows us

28:04to use the one piece of property as

28:07collateral for all those projects. Yes.

28:09>> Okay, I'll wait for my comments during

28:11the motion.

28:14>> About the questions.

28:16This is a public hearing. Speakers will

28:19have up to 15 minutes total to speak in

28:21favor of this request and up to 15

28:24minutes total to speak in opposition. Is

28:27there anyone here wishing to speak in

28:29favor?

28:33Is there anyone here wishing to speak in

28:35opposition?

28:39I declare the public hearing closed.

28:42Is there a motion?

28:45And then we'll have discussion.

28:47>> Move approved.

28:49>> Approval by Commissioner Bessie.

28:53Is there a second?

28:56>> Second.

28:57>> Second by Commissioner Parker. Is there

29:00some discussion before the vote?

29:03>> I do have a few comments as it relates

29:06to, in my opinion, you know,

29:08prioritizing

29:11the needs of taking care of the county

29:14by way of these projects that we're now

29:16funding to maintain the upkeep of

29:20facilities that keep our employees safe

29:23and folk over at the detention center

29:26are now being taken care of second

29:29versus in my opinion we should have

29:31prioritized these in 2021

29:34and then in 2026 maybe

29:37taking care of some of I think our wants

29:40which was we want to support

29:44the airport. We want a museum.

29:48And so I think that, you know, in my

29:50opinion,

29:52the citizens just we just need to be

29:54aware of how we are prioritizing taking

29:56care of the facilities

29:59here at the county. That's one point

30:01that I would like to make.

30:03The second point I would like to make is

30:05that, you know, it is very convenient

30:07for counties to leverage bonds as a way

30:10to pay for expenses that can't be

30:13covered with

30:15our tax revenue per se. So then we quote

30:18unquote take out loans through bonds.

30:20But then that become a part of

30:23our general

30:25issue as relates to

30:27what our expenses are. So as you all

30:30know, we have quite a few expenses too

30:33at the county and of course I'm

30:35unapologetic about my support of public

30:38schools. But when we have to, you know,

30:41pay down debt, then that takes away from

30:44sometimes supporting things like public

30:46schools. So, I think we need just need

30:49to be very mindful around when we want

30:52things like museums and other things

30:55that we may want, how does that then

30:56affect the total picture of what we need

30:59to take care of in this county.

31:05>> Other questions

31:06or comments?

31:08>> Uh again, I just reiterate that these

31:10funds also

31:12um are being um

31:14allocated to take care of some necessary

31:18and needed courthouse improvements.

31:22>> Other questions or comments?

31:26All in favor, please say I.

31:28>> I.

31:29>> Opposed?

31:31That's unanimous. Thank you.

31:34The next item on the agenda is a

31:36resolution com- commending the

31:39International Black Theatre Festival on

31:41the successful conclusion of its 37th

31:44anniversary

31:46um anniversary um

31:49Britney Gills-Jones, managing managing

31:52director of the North Carolina Black

31:54Repertory Company, is here to receive

31:57the resolution.

31:59Would you please meet Commissioner uh

32:02Vice Chair Wils- Wilson at the podium,

32:05please.

32:25>> Whereas

32:27the International Black Theatre

32:29Festival, founded through the vision of

32:31the late Larry Leon Hamlin, and

32:33presented by the North Carolina Black

32:35Repertory Company, has become one of the

32:37world's premier celebrations of black

32:39theater arts, culture, and storytelling.

32:42Whereas the 2026 International Black

32:45Theater Festival celebrated its 37th

32:47anniversary, welcoming artists,

32:49performers, and visiting visitors from

32:52across the nation and around the world

32:53to Forsyth County while showcasing our

32:56community as an internationally

32:57recognized destination for the

32:59performing arts.

33:00Whereas the festival is estimated to

33:02have generated approximately $14 million

33:05in economic impact benefiting local

33:08hotels, restaurants, retailers,

33:10transportation providers, and numerous

33:12other businesses throughout the week.

33:14And whereas Forsyth County is proud to

33:16be recognized as a gold sponsor of the

33:18International Black Theater Festival and

33:20values its long-standing partnership

33:22with the North Carolina Black Repertory

33:24Company. Now, therefore, be it resolved

33:27that the Forsyth County Board of

33:28Commissioners hereby congratulates the

33:31International Black Theater Festival,

33:33the North Carolina Black Repertory

33:34Company, its Board of Directors,

33:36leadership, staff, volunteers,

33:40sponsors, artists, and community

33:42partners on the successful conclusion of

33:44the 37th International Black Theater

33:46Festival and expresses its sincere

33:49appreciation for their outstanding

33:50contributions to the cultural and

33:52economic vitality of Forsyth County. And

33:56be it further resolved that the Forsyth

33:57County Board of Commissioners extends

33:59its gratitude for the festival's

34:01enduring legacy and looks forward to its

34:03continued success for many years to

34:05come.

34:06Adopted this 13th day of August 2026.

34:10>> Is that a motion?

34:12>> So moved.

34:13>> Is there a second?

34:14>> Second.

34:15>> There's a second by Commissioner

34:18McDaniel.

34:19Is there discussion?

34:22All in favor, please say I. I.

34:26Is there any nays?

34:29It's approved. Thank you.

34:32Thank you.

34:35>> Perfect. We are so proud of the 2026

34:38International Bike Theater Festival and

34:40thank you very much. We look forward to

34:42continued partnership with Forsyth

34:44County for the next in many festivals to

34:46come.

34:47>> Thank you.

34:48>> Thank you.

34:48>> [applause]

34:59[laughter]

35:04[laughter]

35:14>> It's [laughter] fine.

35:17Before we continue with the agenda, I

35:19would like to take a moment to recognize

35:22staff who have recently received awards

35:24for their work. Two county programs

35:27received National Association of

35:30Counties in

35:32uh NACO uh achievement awards. Deputy

35:34County Manager Denise Price will provide

35:37an introduction.

35:43>> Good afternoon. So, yes, two public

35:46health programs, the Healthy Corner

35:48Corner Store and Wellness While You Wait

35:51or what we call WWW

35:53were recognized with achievement awards

35:55at the 2026 NACO conference. The two

35:58programs are representative of the

36:00thoughtful and impactful programs that

36:02are implemented across Health and Human

36:03Services and so proud of these two

36:06programs for their recognition. A little

36:08about them, Public Health's Healthy

36:10Corner Store program is a take what you

36:12need fresh produce program distributing

36:15free fruits and vegetables to residents

36:18in local food deserts. This initiative

36:20placed in small corner stores aims to

36:22reduce food insecurity and promote

36:24healthier eating habits.

36:27Sites are strategically located in

36:29neighborhoods with limited access to

36:31affordable and nutritious options. More

36:34than 550 pounds of food has been

36:37distributed at eight participating

36:39corner stores. There are no eligibility

36:41criteria. It is simply if you need it,

36:44take it, and the food is available to

36:46the community at no cost.

36:48The second program, Wellness While

36:50Waiting, WWW, is an initiative of our

36:54innovative Healthy Forsyth Public Health

36:56program, transforming wait times at food

36:59distribution sites into opportunities

37:02for preventative health engagement.

37:04Implemented at trusted community

37:06locations, the program integrates light

37:08physical activity, brief bilingual

37:11health education on chronic conditions

37:13such as diabetes and hypertension, and

37:16connections to local resources directly

37:19into the pantry operations. The purpose

37:22of WWW is to reduce barriers to care, to

37:26um

37:27reduce wait times, transportation,

37:30language barriers, and trust.

37:33By meeting residents where they are and

37:35delivering culturally responsive,

37:37accessible health support in real time.

37:41I know we have a lot of people here that

37:42support those programs today, including

37:45our um program leads and community

37:48partners. So, if we could invite them

37:50forward to show our appreciation.

37:59>> [applause]

38:04>> And while they're

38:05>> community partners

38:08We can't do it without you.

38:10>> While they're coming up, I'm going to

38:11introduce our next one, and then we're

38:13going to ask our commissioners to come

38:14down and recognize all of our winners.

38:17But, the next one is that Forsyth County

38:18was awarded the 2026 Telly Award. And

38:22the Telly Awards honors excellence in

38:25video and television across all screens.

38:28You all can stay there. We're going to

38:29have commissioners come down. In their

38:3247th season, they received 13,000

38:35entries from six continents and all 50

38:38states. The Telly Awards represent work

38:41from the most respected advertising

38:43agencies, television stations,

38:45production companies, and publishers

38:47around the world. The judges, over 250

38:50executives from television networks,

38:52production companies, global agencies,

38:54immersive content studios, and streaming

38:56platforms. The Forsyth County

38:58Communications Department submitted the

39:00Farm City 2025 Anders Family Farms video

39:04in the category of People's Telly

39:06non-broadcast.

39:08The video highlighted the Anders Family

39:10Farm of Tobaccoville for presentation

39:12during the 2025 Farm City celebration.

39:15And those video entries were reviewed by

39:17judges who shortlisted them and

39:19presented them to the public for voting

39:21in April. When voting was completed, the

39:23Forsyth County's Farm City video was

39:25selected as the silver People's Telly

39:28Award winner in the non-broadcast

39:30category. The trophy credits include

39:33Leslie Rose as the executive producer

39:35for requesting the project, and Leslie's

39:37our cooperative extension director, Ed

39:39McNeill as the producer, our

39:41communications director, and Jeff

39:42Fabrizio as the videographer and editor.

39:45And so, we'll ask, and I see they are

39:47already there, our communications

39:49department, as well as Leslie Rose to

39:51receive that trophy that Commissioner

39:54Vice Chair Wilson was holding up. That

39:56is our Telly Award.

40:00>> [applause]

40:04>> Have all the commissioners come down,

40:06please.

40:06All the commissioners so we can say

40:09thank you and take a picture with these

40:11folks.

40:16That's a heavy trophy.

40:18>> [laughter]

40:19>> I'm going to get this off of me.

40:30>> [snorts]

40:56[applause]

40:59>> Yeah.

41:01>> So, the chairwoman said I had a a moment

41:04to speak and I will take that

41:05opportunity. Um

41:07I I am thankful to God for the the team

41:09that I have and the talent that we bring

41:12to uh educate the public about Forsyth

41:15County. And I can't tell you how proud I

41:18am to see Forsyth County, North Carolina

41:24recognized by the National Association.

41:27So, the Telly Award means a lot to uh to

41:29me. I've I've had an opportunity to

41:32uh to be a part of others and it means a

41:34lot. It means a lot that you all have us

41:36on your agenda to recognize that and uh

41:40means a lot to me that um

41:42Shantel Robinson keeps a very steady

41:45hand on us and I will say I will just

41:49add sometimes my my name for her is

41:52manager more because that's what she

41:54wants. And so so she constantly does

41:56want that, but but this board approved

41:59creating this department in 2022 and and

42:03that was big. Not in a time where people

42:05were adding a lot to government, but you

42:08did that because you believed it was

42:10important. And so we've been able to put

42:12together a team that has gone out and

42:15taken this work very seriously. Leslie,

42:18I have tried to be sure to have Leslie

42:20in everything that we do to recognize

42:22this because the work of your

42:24Cooperative Extension Service spreads

42:27all over the county. And when she came

42:29to us and said, "We want to tell the

42:31story of some of these farmers because

42:32people may not understand what's

42:35happening out in the community." We

42:36thought it was a beautiful experience. I

42:38am a big I'm a Georgia boy, believing in

42:41farming, grew up hands in the dirt. And

42:44so, the work that they do all around the

42:45community is so important, and we want

42:47to get out there and tell those stories.

42:49And I cannot walk away without

42:51acknowledging

42:52that now is a very good time to buy

42:54local.

42:55>> [laughter]

42:55>> And so, local fruits and vegetables, I

42:57know Chairwoman Wisenhunt believes in

43:00that. I see her out at the farmers

43:02market. But our team is committed to

43:04serving you well. Thank you for that

43:06opportunity. Thank you.

43:07>> Thank you.

43:08We appreciate you.

43:09>> [applause]

43:14>> The next item on the agenda is a

43:16resolution approving legislative goals

43:19and submission of such goals to the

43:21North Carolina Association of County

43:23Commissioners for consideration at its

43:26legislative goals conference.

43:29Um is there a motion to approve?

43:32>> Uh Madam Chair, you had suggested that I

43:34raise a uh

43:35>> Yes.

43:36Yes. Please do that.

43:38>> Um we've we've gone over these um

43:41um

43:43I think we all got a

43:45um an email uh with comments from North

43:49Carolina Great Stales Great Trails uh

43:53state group. Um and they were discussing

43:58the need for recurring funding. They

44:00also had a dollar amount they were

44:01suggesting. Um I don't have I I had an

44:05opportunity to do the research on the

44:07dollar amount, but um

44:09I would still have one suggestion for

44:12your consideration. It's the last

44:15paragraph, paragraph nine under state

44:17goals,

44:18uh and presently reads provide funding

44:20for recreational trails and support

44:22legislation to amend NCGS 136-89.10

44:28and 136-189.11

44:32to allow use of strategic transportation

44:35investments act STI funds for

44:38independent bicycle and pedestrian

44:40improvements. Uh

44:41that we've already gone over. Um the the

44:45idea that adequate recurring funding is

44:48needed for the program, I think is

44:51should should be, you know,

44:52non-controversial.

44:54Um

44:55uh and the the amounts they're asking

44:57for um are basically, you know, rounding

45:01errors in the context of a $34 and a

45:03half billion dollar annual state budget.

45:06Um

45:07uh

45:08so I I would suggest consideration of

45:10just adding two words there after

45:13provide and before funding, insert

45:17adequate recurring. So it would it would

45:19read provide adequate recurring funding.

45:23And if if there's no objection to that,

45:27I would

45:28like to move adoption of the

45:31legislative goals with that one, you

45:34know, two-word addition.

45:36>> Is that a motion?

45:37>> Yes, ma'am.

45:38>> Is there a second?

45:39>> Second.

45:40>> Okay, let's uh let's take a uh a vote on

45:44amending.

45:45Okay, all in favor of the amendment um

45:48that uh Commissioner Bessie has

45:50outlined, please say I.

45:52>> I.

45:53>> Any opposition?

45:55Okay, that passes unanimously. Now, I

45:58will entertain a motion for all of the

46:00legislative goals.

46:02>> So moved.

46:03>> Second.

46:04>> Uh

46:05made a motion by a commission

46:07Commissioner Parker and second by

46:09Commissioner Bessie.

46:12Uh is there discussion?

46:15All in favor, please say I.

46:17>> I.

46:18>> Any no?

46:19That is unanimous.

46:23The next item on the agenda is approval

46:26of minutes for the meeting of July 30th,

46:282026.

46:31Is there a motion?

46:33>> Move approval.

46:34>> Motion to approve by um

46:37Commissioner Bessie.

46:38>> I'll second.

46:39>> Second by Commissioner McDaniel. All in

46:41favor, please say I.

46:43>> I.

46:44>> All opposed? That is unanimous. I'm

46:46sorry.

46:48>> By advice of uh our county attorney, I'm

46:50going to recuse myself from that since I

46:52was not present at that meeting.

46:54>> Okay.

46:56We will do so.

46:58So all in favor, say I.

47:00>> I.

47:01>> Opposed? That's you know well, that's

47:04six and restrained.

47:07>> [laughter]

47:07>> It's almost unanimous.

47:12Uh the next item on the agenda is public

47:14session. Madam Clerk, do we have a call

47:18or a card?

47:21>> Madam Chair, we have four speaker cards.

47:24We do not have any calls.

47:25>> Okay.

47:26>> The first speaker is Carol Hoover.

47:28Please come forward, state your name and

47:29address for the record.

47:33>> Hello.

47:38>> Good afternoon, Commissioners. My name

47:40is Carol Hoover. I reside at 515 Archer

47:43Road in Winston-Salem.

47:45I thank you for the opportunity to speak

47:47to you today.

47:49I am here to thank you for your recent

47:51approval or

47:53just now approval of the resolutions,

47:56um especially that last item. Um, I'm in

47:59favor of the amendment that you made to

48:01that as well.

48:03Um,

48:04I want to thank you for adding your

48:06voice to the growing statewide effort

48:09urging the North Carolina

48:11General Assembly to restore eligibility

48:14for independent bicycle and pedestrian

48:16projects in the Strategic Transportation

48:19Investment Fund. You approved that for

48:22us a few years ago and took it on your

48:23legislative agenda and you're doing it

48:26again for us. So, I really appreciate

48:28that. Funding and funding walking and

48:31biking projects is very important to our

48:33communities and I want to share with you

48:36just a brief story about why it is so

48:38important to me.

48:40When I was a little girl, I grew up in

48:41the country

48:43on my family's 30 acres of woods and I

48:48spent just countless hours walking those

48:5130 acres plus maybe sneaking over into

48:54the neighbor's acreage as well.

48:56Um, I played in the creek. I just loved

49:01being outdoors and I've carried that

49:03throughout my life.

49:05I could walk right out of my back door

49:07and safely into the woods to explore

49:10nature

49:11without worrying about traffic anywhere.

49:15Today, living in an urban community,

49:18I see how difficult it is for people to

49:21safely reach a greenway, parks, and

49:24other natural areas.

49:26We know these spaces are important for

49:29both physical and mental health,

49:32but they only benefit us if we can get

49:34there safely.

49:36Many of you have had the experience that

49:39I had when I grew up and I believe these

49:42experiences are part of why I and many

49:45others care so deeply about creating

49:48safe places for people to walk and to

49:50ride their bike.

49:52Since 2013, the state law has blocked

49:55state transportation dollars for

49:57stand-alone bicycle and pedestrian

50:00projects.

50:01This has left our communities dependent

50:04on limited federal dollars

50:06and local funds to build sidewalks,

50:09crosswalks, trails, and greenways that

50:12our people need.

50:14The challenges are even greater today

50:17with the US Department of Transportation

50:20no longer supporting many bicycle

50:22infrastructure investments.

50:25The need is urgent. Here in Forsyth

50:27County, over the past 5 years, we have

50:30averaged 47 traffic fatalities,

50:33including nine pedestrians,

50:36and one bicyclist each and every one of

50:39those 5 years.

50:41My focus is always on safety, but there

50:43are also economic benefits, as well.

50:46Studies indicate for every $1 we spend,

50:49$1.72 comes in in revenue, and I learned

50:53that earlier this week by attending the

50:55Great Trails State Conference.

50:58Safe infrastructure saves lives.

51:00Restoring state funding is an investment

51:02in safety, public health, economic

51:04vitality, and quality of life. So, thank

51:07you again for supporting that

51:09resolution, and I hope we have success

51:12at the state level. Thank you.

51:14>> Thank you.

51:17The next speaker is Palmer McIntyre.

51:19Please come forward, state your name and

51:21address for the record.

51:25>> Good afternoon. My name is Palmer

51:26McIntyre. I'm director of the North

51:28Carolina Great Trails State Coalition.

51:30My address is 622 Scott Avenue in

51:32Greensboro, so I'm not from Forsyth

51:34County. And I came here today, um, to

51:37ask you to consider amending the

51:39language of the legislative goals, but

51:40now that you have done that and adopted

51:43the goal, I want to thank you for that

51:44amendment, especially um, Commissioner

51:46Bessie for bringing that to attention.

51:48The, uh, Great Trail State program, it's

51:50a the Great Trail State program is a new

51:52statewide grant program that was

51:54established by the North Carolina

51:55General Assembly in 2023 with $25

51:58million.

51:59And in the most recent state budget,

52:01just passed last month, they added

52:03another $8.5 million to that program.

52:07And this grant program is open to all

52:08types of trails, paved and natural

52:10surface, and even paddle trails across

52:12all 100 counties for all cycles of

52:14trail, including planning, construction,

52:17and maintenance.

52:18And Forsyth County is benefiting from

52:20this grant program. The first cycle

52:22awarded $500,000 to the Piedmont Triad

52:25Regional Council to do design and

52:27engineering on a segment of the planned

52:29Piedmont Greenway, a 2.5 mile segment

52:32that will go from downtown Kernersville

52:34to Triad Park. Forsyth County, Guilford

52:36County, and the town of Kernersville are

52:38all providing some matching funds for

52:40this funding. So, this funding will be a

52:41key key, uh, point to advance that

52:44trail. The Piedmont Greenway, just for

52:46context, will be a major recreation and

52:48transportation corridor connecting

52:50Winston-Salem to Greensboro through

52:53Triad Park.

52:54Partners include both Forsyth County,

52:56Guilford County, the city of Winston,

52:58the city of Greensboro, and then the

52:59towns of Kernersville, Oak Ridge, and

53:01Summerfield. And also the Winston-Salem

53:03Transportation Planning Organization and

53:05the Greensboro

53:07Urban Area Metropolitan Planning

53:09Organization, and Piedmont Land

53:10Conservancy, which I also work for, and

53:12Piedmont Triad Regional Council. So,

53:13it's a very complicated project with a

53:15lot of wonderful partners.

53:17Uh, Winston-Salem will complete the

53:19westernmost segment of the Piedmont

53:20Greenway with planned construction in

53:222027. So, that will be a segment a 1.25

53:25mile segment connecting Linville Road at

53:28the end of the Salem Lake Trail to East

53:30Forsyth High School on Hastings Hill.

53:33And Forsyth County and its communities,

53:35including Winston-Salem, Kernersville,

53:36Bethania, Lewisville, Clemmons, and even

53:39High Point, have a long invested in

53:40trail infrastructure, both paved and

53:43natural surface, and they create highly

53:45desirable recreational opportunities and

53:48safe transportation options that really

53:50add to the quality of life for

53:51residents, but also make these

53:53communities attractive places for

53:54businesses and for visitors.

53:57So, um there's a lot of wonderful trails

53:59in in Forsyth County at Triad Park,

54:01Salem Lake, 25 miles of Winston-Salem

54:04Greenways, um including the Salem Creek

54:06Greenway, the Long Branch Trail, Muddy

54:07Creek Greenway, and the national

54:09award-winning Green Street Pedestrian

54:11Bridge. Um and then also lot then the

54:13new Twin City Trail, and then Tanglewood

54:15Park, and also trails in Bethania and

54:17Kernersville.

54:19So, these trails are very popular, but

54:21also attract visitors. And we know that

54:22outdoor recreation is a big business in

54:24North Carolina. It's over $17 billion

54:27annually creating for the across the

54:28state.

54:30Um and I think that's my time. So, thank

54:32you very much for your adopting of that

54:34legislative goal. You'll be the first

54:36county to do that. Appreciate that.

54:37Thank you.

54:41>> The next speaker is Mike Cline. Please

54:43come forward, state your name and

54:45address for the record.

54:47>> My question was answered following that

54:50and I believe thank you.

54:55>> The last speaker is Marcy West. Please

54:57come forward, state your name and

54:58address for the record.

55:03>> Madam Chair, Commissioners, thank you.

55:05Marcy West, 331 Carolina Circle,

55:07Winston-Salem, and candidate for County

55:10Commissioner District B. I just wanted

55:12to speak briefly about hyperscale data

55:14centers. We had some pretty lengthy

55:16discussion um recently, and we had more

55:19citizens here than I have seen in any of

55:21the three years that I have come to

55:23these Commissioner meetings. They

55:24overflowed the overflow rooms and were

55:27outside. Um I I think it's a very very

55:30important that we look at our UDO. What

55:33we know about hyperscale data centers is

55:35that we don't know a lot about them.

55:37They have a lot of impacts potentially

55:39on our community, our safety, our

55:42welfare.

55:44They impact water use, they impact uh

55:48electricity use and costs.

55:50It's unclear how much money we will

55:52actually make out of them due to all of

55:55the abatements that the state has done.

55:57And I think we need to do some very,

55:58very serious digging into that. The

56:01other thing is that we know that our UDO

56:03has got conflicts in it. So, we had this

56:07that was for light industry, but

56:08essentially the definition of of heavy

56:12industrial is really where a hyperscale

56:14data center belongs. So, I'm hoping that

56:16we can do something to update our work.

56:19I can tell you that other counties are

56:20nine other counties that have done

56:22moratoriums on this. There are 14 cities

56:24and towns that have done moratoriums on

56:26this. Now, I do know that we have

56:29the Senate Bill 382 that restricts us,

56:32but I cannot believe that we are the

56:34only unfortunate ones that can't do

56:36something to actually take control of

56:38our own county. And I hope that you all

56:40move to protect our county so that we

56:43can actually know what we're dealing

56:44with and have it defined well. Thank

56:46you.

56:48>> [applause]

56:53>> Madam Madam County Manager, I will turn

56:57the agenda over to you.

56:59>> Thank you, Madam Chair, and good

57:00afternoon, Commissioners, staff, and

57:02guests. The agenda items before you have

57:04been briefed and hopefully questions

57:06answered. Agenda items 8 through 11 can

57:09be taken together. 8 is a resolution

57:11authorizing Quantum Meruit payment to

57:13Aramark Correctional Services LLC in the

57:16amount of $39,223.11

57:19for food services at the detention

57:21center. And 9 is a payment to NMS Labs

57:25Inc. in the amount of $732

57:27for the Sheriff's Office to provide

57:29required THC testing for criminal

57:31investigation. 10 is a payment to

57:34StarChase LLC in the amount of $6,082.80

57:38for tracking and subscription services

57:41of 10 vehicle mounted launcher systems

57:43for the Sheriff's Office. And 11 is a

57:45payment to Charter Communications North

57:47Carolina LLC Spectrum for county

57:50internet services in the amount of

57:51$51,082.62.

57:57Are there questions?

58:00Yes.

58:01>> Is Charter Communications

58:03Is Charter Communications a local

58:05company?

58:06>> Spectrum.

58:06>> Spectrum.

58:07>> Is Spectrum? Oh, okay.

58:11>> Is there a motion?

58:18>> It's so moved.

58:19>> Moved to approve by Commissioner Parker.

58:22Is there a second?

58:23>> Second.

58:24>> Second by Commissioner McDaniel. Is

58:26there discussion?

58:28Commissioner Bass.

58:29>> Thank you. Very briefly, I just wanted

58:31to to note that during their our

58:33discussion session on Monday, we had

58:37had to ask that

58:39>> [clears throat]

58:41>> the

58:42our staff take a look at the question of

58:45why the THC testing

58:49was needed in this case without prior

58:55prior indication

58:56so that we could avoid

58:59that quantum meruit approach for the

59:02testing there in in the future. That

59:04that

59:05there would appear to be some

59:08significant difference in

59:11a set

59:12number of two two cases where they

59:16needed testing beyond what

59:18was being provided for under their their

59:21contractual arrangements.

59:23So, with with the understanding that

59:26going to be looked at.

59:27>> Okay.

59:27>> I'm comfortable with the motion to

59:30approve items 8 through 11.

59:32>> Other discussion?

59:34All those in favor, please say I.

59:36>> I.

59:37>> Opposed? That's unanimous.

59:40>> Agenda item number 12 is a resolution

59:42authorizing submission of the fiscal

59:43year 27 Home and Community Care Block

59:46Grant County Funding Plan for older

59:47adults and authorizing execution of

59:49necessary documents to submit the plan

59:51for state approval. This authorizes

59:53submission of the plan to North Carolina

59:55Department of Health and Human Services

59:57Division of Aging and Adult Services for

59:59approval. The total funding plan totals

1:00:01$2,664,378

1:00:05and funds would be allocated to Forsyth

1:00:07Social Services, Shepherd's Center of

1:00:09Greater Winston-Salem, Shepherd's Center

1:00:11of Kernersville, Senior Services, and

1:00:13Support Systems of Forsyth County.

1:00:16>> Is there a motion?

1:00:17>> Move to approve.

1:00:19>> Motion to approve by Commissioner

1:00:21McDaniel, second by Commissioner Bessie.

1:00:24Is there discussion?

1:00:26All in favor, please say I.

1:00:28>> I.

1:00:29>> Opposed? That's unanimous.

1:00:31>> Agenda item number 13 is an amendment to

1:00:33the fiscal year 27 budget ordinance to

1:00:35appropriate revenue from Juvenile Crime

1:00:37Prevention Council grantees to reimburse

1:00:39unspent funds from fiscal year 25 to the

1:00:42North Carolina Department of Public

1:00:43Safety. All refunds total $29,420.34

1:00:48and were received back from Family

1:00:50Services for trauma assessment and

1:00:52counseling services, YWCA Team Court and

1:00:55Work It and Earn It programs, and

1:00:57Project X's Intensive Program.

1:01:01>> Is there a motion?

1:01:02>> Move to approve.

1:01:03>> Move to approve by Commissioner

1:01:04McDaniel.

1:01:07Second by Commissioner Bessie.

1:01:09Discussion?

1:01:11All in favor, please say I.

1:01:13>> I.

1:01:14>> Opposed?

1:01:16That is unanimous.

1:01:17>> Agenda item number 14 is an amendment to

1:01:19the fiscal year 27 budget ordinance to

1:01:21appropriate reserved fund balance from

1:01:23the register of deeds automation fund in

1:01:26the amount of $50,000 in a resolution

1:01:29authorizing execution of an agreement

1:01:30with VRC Companies LLC to provide

1:01:33micrographic supplies and services for

1:01:36the register of deeds to process,

1:01:37convert, and duplicate public records

1:01:40from a digital image format to microfilm

1:01:42for archiving and retrieval.

1:01:46>> Is there a motion?

1:01:47>> Move to approve.

1:01:48>> Motion to approve by

1:01:50>> Commissioner McDaniel.

1:01:51>> [snorts]

1:01:52>> Second.

1:01:53>> Second by Commissioner Linville. Is

1:01:55there

1:01:56uh discussion?

1:01:58All in favor, please say I.

1:02:00>> I.

1:02:00>> I.

1:02:00>> Opposed? That's unanimous.

1:02:03>> Agenda item number 15 is a resolution

1:02:05authorizing the purchase of

1:02:06non-influenza vaccines by the Department

1:02:08of Public Health. This would allow

1:02:10public health to execute purchase orders

1:02:12through the MCAP Infuse program in an

1:02:14amount not to exceed $100,000. There

1:02:17were some questions about what vaccines

1:02:19were covered, and staff did send a memo

1:02:21um listing those yesterday.

1:02:24>> Is there a motion to approve?

1:02:25>> Move to approve.

1:02:28>> Pardon?

1:02:29>> So moved.

1:02:29>> Okay. Motion to approve by Commissioner

1:02:32Bessie, second [snorts] by Commissioner

1:02:34McDaniel. Is there discussion?

1:02:36>> Yes, thank thank you, Madam Chair. Um a

1:02:39part of the of the staff report back was

1:02:42on the utilization last year of the

1:02:45COVID vaccine um that uh

1:02:48that we acquired um

1:02:50since that was the first year where the

1:02:54uh

1:02:55the the hold on prices had come off, and

1:02:59they shot up to over $100 per dose.

1:03:02So that um people without um

1:03:05health insurance, Medicaid or Medicare,

1:03:07um were going to have to pay quite a bit

1:03:10out of pocket. Um and the um

1:03:13uh the report back, and thank you um

1:03:16Deputy Manager uh Price for the details

1:03:19on this.

1:03:20The report came back that

1:03:22we had purchased last year

1:03:25270

1:03:27uh

1:03:27adult doses and 150 pediatric doses.

1:03:34Utilization

1:03:35was high for the adult doses, 240,

1:03:40very modest for the pediatric doses,

1:03:44six.

1:03:45Um

1:03:47and that that

1:03:49with particularly with the adult um

1:03:53vaccinations

1:03:55those were limited in distribution to

1:03:57people who did not have other other

1:03:59coverage. So,

1:04:01it seems to be a reflection of actual

1:04:03public perceived need.

1:04:06Um I don't want to hold up today's

1:04:10approval, but if if there's no

1:04:13particular objection, I'd like to ask

1:04:15that

1:04:15staff report back on what it would

1:04:19what it would cost for us to purchase

1:04:22250

1:04:23adult doses and 10 pediatric doses

1:04:28for

1:04:29discussion at a later point.

1:04:34>> Other discussion?

1:04:36>> Well, I had requested that list, I

1:04:37think, at our briefing and it's very

1:04:40comprehensive. It except for COVID

1:04:42coverage and it appears to

1:04:44um handle all of the juvenile and infant

1:04:50vaccinations that need to be provided.

1:04:52Some required by law

1:04:54and for

1:04:55older adults, the Prevnar, Shingrix,

1:04:58Pneumovax are in there. So, they got

1:04:59young and old covered. Um

1:05:02and I certainly recommend that everybody

1:05:04in the room take advantage of and be

1:05:07vaccinated with the monkeypox.

1:05:14>> Other discussion.

1:05:17All in favor of the motion, please say

1:05:19I.

1:05:20>> I.

1:05:21>> Opposed, that's unanimous. Thank you.

1:05:24>> Agenda item number 16 is a resolution

1:05:27awarding and authorizing execution of an

1:05:28agreement with Lomax Construction

1:05:30Incorporated for the 3820 North Liberty

1:05:33Street restroom renovation project in a

1:05:35total not to exceed amount of $767,700

1:05:39and also authorizes the county manager

1:05:41to execute change orders in an amount

1:05:43not to exceed $100,000.

1:05:46>> Is there a motion?

1:05:47>> Move to approve.

1:05:49>> Motion to approve by Commissioner

1:05:50Limbaugh.

1:05:53Is there a second?

1:05:54>> Second.

1:05:54>> Second by Commissioner Bessie. Is

1:05:56there's discussion?

1:06:01Uh all in favor, please say I.

1:06:03>> I.

1:06:04>> Opposed,

1:06:06that's unanimous.

1:06:07>> Agenda item number 17 is a resolution

1:06:09authorizing execution of an agreement

1:06:11with Stryker Sales LLC to provide

1:06:13service and maintenance of all EMS

1:06:15Stryker equipment. This authorizes a

1:06:173-year agreement for the service and

1:06:18routine maintenance of all EMS Stryker

1:06:20equipment such as cardiac monitor

1:06:22defibrillators, chest compression

1:06:24devices, power pro cots, power load

1:06:26systems in a total amount not to exceed

1:06:28$603,677.48.

1:06:35>> Is there a motion?

1:06:36>> Move approval.

1:06:36>> Move approval by Commissioner Parker.

1:06:39>> Second.

1:06:39>> Second by uh Vice Chair Wilson. Is there

1:06:42discussion?

1:06:44>> I just wanted to follow up with regard

1:06:46to some questions asked at the briefing

1:06:49um as for our um

1:06:52Lucas devices. Um

1:06:54it sounds like we don't have one

1:06:56available for every every ambulance. Is

1:06:59that correct?

1:07:01>> Yep.

1:07:08>> Good afternoon, commissioners.

1:07:09>> Yes, that is correct. We do not have

1:07:10them on every ambulance. They're on our

1:07:12quick response vehicles. So, our

1:07:14supervisor vehicles, they have them. And

1:07:17then the Forsyth County 09 trucks that

1:07:19are strategically placed throughout the

1:07:20county, they have them on those uh

1:07:23apparatus as well.

1:07:24>> So, it goes uh gets directed on a

1:07:27priority basis.

1:07:29>> Yes, so those calls are dispatched when

1:07:31there's a cardiac arrest or respiratory

1:07:33arrest. We always send a supervisor or

1:07:36if it's out in the county, then one of

1:07:38those 09 vehicles goes. Our medic QRVs,

1:07:42so medic 1, 2, and 3, they also have the

1:07:44Lucas devices on them. So, we send an

1:07:46ambulance on that call and we send that

1:07:49support vehicle that has the Lucas

1:07:50device on it.

1:07:52>> And they're all trained how to use it.

1:07:54>> Yes, sir. They're all trained how to use

1:07:55it and then there are multiple fire

1:07:57departments in the system that have

1:07:59their own Lucas devices

1:08:01as well.

1:08:03Um I don't have that exact list off the

1:08:05top of my head, but there are multiple

1:08:06other fire departments that have their

1:08:07own Lucas devices, but those eight

1:08:10are um they're provided by the county.

1:08:12>> And since this is all potentially

1:08:14life-saving equipment, um is it

1:08:16top-notch?

1:08:18>> Yes, sir. It is top-notch,

1:08:19state-of-the-art um

1:08:21type of equipment and the great thing

1:08:23with the Lucas devices is the um

1:08:27allows for crew fatigue. You know, so

1:08:29when you're doing chest compressions on

1:08:31somebody, we work our cardiac arrest for

1:08:3245 minutes.

1:08:34So, if you take even an engine company

1:08:36and a ladder company and multiple

1:08:38paramedic crews that are there, you get

1:08:40fatigued pretty quickly doing chest

1:08:42compressions. So, this device allows us

1:08:43to do effective chest compressions for a

1:08:45prolonged amount of time on scene while

1:08:48we're

1:08:49doing other types of patient care.

1:08:50>> Going to say it frees them up to provide

1:08:52other services.

1:08:53>> Yes, sir.

1:08:54>> Thank you.

1:08:55>> Yes, sir.

1:08:56>> Thank you.

1:08:59>> Other questions?

1:09:02A motion?

1:09:04Do Do we have a motion?

1:09:06>> Yes, it's been seconded.

1:09:10>> Did I have a motion?

1:09:11>> Yeah, we have a motion. It's seconded.

1:09:13>> Second, okay. All in favor, please say

1:09:15I.

1:09:15>> I.

1:09:16>> Opposed? That's unanimous.

1:09:20>> That is all of our agenda items, Madam

1:09:21Chair.

1:09:22>> Okay, do we have a motion to adjourn?

1:09:25>> So moved.

1:09:26Second.

1:09:27>> Moved and seconded. All in favor, say I.

1:09:30>> I.

1:09:31>> We adjourn.