2026-09-29 - Development, Planning and Sustainability Committee

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08:20>> Yeah.

08:30Good morning everyone. Today is Tuesday,

08:32September 29th. We're calling

08:34Development Planning and Sustainability

08:36Committee to order. Madame Clerk, can

08:38you call the role?

08:40>> Present.

08:48>> Thank you. Um, good morning everyone.

08:51We're going to start with ordinance

08:52number 10342026.

08:55Is that you director presenting? And Mr.

08:57Green, come on up. Ordinance number

08:591034-20226

09:01by council members Penzic, Santana,

09:03Bishop, and Griffin. an emergency or

09:05ordinance authorizing director of

09:07community development to lease the

09:08fivepoint building also known as

09:10Collingwood Community Center located at

09:12813 East 152nd Street to the Famikos

09:16Foundation to operate and provide a

09:17range of social service and to maintain

09:20fivepoint building for period of two

09:21years with one twoyear option to renew

09:24director. Good morning Mr. Green.

09:28>> Thank you and good morning committee.

09:30Um, I am going to turn this over to uh

09:34Mr. James Green who's going to inform us

09:36about the uh building, the intended

09:38uses, and the lease that we're

09:39proposing.

09:41>> Good morning, Madame Chair, members of

09:43the uh committee. Uh, this request is

09:47for uh the Department of Community

09:49Development to enter into a lease with

09:52Famicos Foundation for the lease of the

09:55FivePoint Community Center, also known

09:57as Collingwood. uh Colinwood uh

10:01community center. The uh building is

10:03located on East 152nd Street uh in

10:07Colinwood. Uh there are two parcels uh

10:11tied to the uh building. One is for the

10:14building itself and uh the other is for

10:16the adjacent parking lot. Uh so just to

10:20sort of orient you to the location of

10:22the uh of the building itself, the uh

10:26parcel outlined in red is the location

10:29of the building. It sits on East 152nd.

10:33Uh between Aspen Wall and uh Plate uh

10:37you know a little more uh to the north

10:40is I90 and to the south is St. Clair uh

10:44in Comwood.

10:47This is the building as it stands today.

10:50Uh it includes some art that was done in

10:52the last few years by uh a renowned

10:55national artist that uh does these

10:57around the country. And the uh building

10:59is currently being used as uh social

11:02services uh that FAMO's foundation

11:05provides.

11:06This is a list of of those services that

11:09are provided through the um uh through

11:12Famicos Foundation. Uh the issue here is

11:15that the lease that previously existed

11:17with Famikos has expired. So we would

11:20like to renew that lease. Uh they

11:22operate currently eight programs from

11:24the uh facility uh including some senior

11:27programs, meal programs,

11:30um uh programs for kids. Uh they have a

11:34kindred health care for seniors. So they

11:36have eight different programs uh that

11:39that go through the uh facility itself.

11:43The department would lease the building

11:46to Famiko's foundation for a dollar a

11:48year. This would allow them to operate

11:50the programs uh that are currently

11:53happening in the building and to expand

11:55those programs uh as uh community need

11:58uh as community need occurs. Um

12:03and uh I'd also like to introduce while

12:06we're here John Analo who is the

12:09director of Fikos Foundation. And so

12:12we're talking about the programs now uh

12:14that are operating from the uh facility.

12:17Uh so it would uh it would be for a

12:19dollar a year that would allow Figos to

12:22um to operate the facility and the

12:25programs that exist there.

12:28And also um it would allow them to

12:31develop additional programs again as I

12:33said as the uh community as community

12:35needs arise. Uh John I don't know if you

12:38had anything you wanted to

12:41>> not

12:44not exactly but I just want to say that

12:48uh this building serves as my satellite

12:53office from where we serve residents of

12:56South Collingwood.

12:58And we have a number of U programming

13:01that goes on there which in would

13:04include I don't know if whether you've

13:07already said okay so

13:10>> good thank you and welcome good morning

13:13I have been there and um seen the food

13:15pantry in action so um is this paid

13:18through CDBG dollars

13:21>> uh to the chair yes um we own the

13:24building and we have some dollars

13:27budgeted for repairs.

13:28>> for repairs. Okay. Um I did speak to

13:31Councilman Palenzic. It's in his ward

13:33and he is in support. Um any questions

13:36for my colleagues? Councilman Harsh.

13:38>> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um just one

13:40question through the chair. Would uh

13:42would this lease prevent the city from

13:44investing further in the building for

13:47physical maintenance and upgrades?

13:49>> To the councilman, through the chair,

13:50absolutely not. We are hoping that um we

13:53there are actually two buildings that

13:55community development owns and we're

13:56hoping that we're over time going to be

13:58able to work them into the capital

13:59improvement plan so that they can be

14:01improved and and put to public purpose.

14:03>> Okay, that's my only question. Thank

14:04you.

14:05>> You got it. Any other questions for my

14:07colleagues on 1034? No. Well, hearing no

14:11other questions. Ordinance number

14:131034-2026

14:15has been approved. Please sign on.

14:17>> There you go.

14:18>> Thank you.

14:19>> Thank you. Thank you.

14:21>> It was nice to see you. [laughter]

14:25>> Um, okay. Next. Do you have another

14:27piece with us or No. No. Okay. This is

14:29it.

14:30>> Okay. Um, next. Ordinance number

14:33921-2026

14:35by Council Member Slife, Bishop,

14:36Santana, and Griffin to vacate portion

14:38of each of the following streets.

14:40Forestwood Avenue, Southwest Midell

14:43Avenue Southwest, West 185th Street,

14:45West 188th Street, and West 190 Street.

14:50director. Right on time.

14:52>> Hi, Councilwoman.

14:54>> Good morning.

14:55>> Good morning. Thank you for hearing this

14:57piece. Um, so the city of Cleveland owns

15:01approximately 30 acres of vacant land

15:04just north of the Cleveland Hopkins

15:06Airport and west of Rocky River Drive.

15:08So, there should be a map that's on your

15:10tablets uh for this uh piece of

15:13legislation.

15:14Um the vacation um of of the roads are

15:18all of West 185th Street, uh West 188th

15:23Street, West 190th Street, and a portion

15:25of Forestwood Avenue Southwest.

15:28Um the vacation of these roads is

15:30essential to redevelopment of the site.

15:33Um we do have um a a development

15:36underway, a development plan underway um

15:39with the department of development and

15:41we do have the full support of uh

15:43Councilman's life.

15:46>> Councilman's life.

15:49>> Uh thank you. This is a area that was

15:52formerly residential uh and was bought

15:55out by the city uh with federal dollars

15:58because the runway expansion at Hopkins

16:01put it within the uh kind of the noise

16:04zone of the airport. So if you went back

16:08to an aerial in the early 90s, there had

16:11been a couple hundred homes here,

16:13thousands of people. Uh since then it's

16:15as the director noted it's been vacant

16:17and uh the intention has been to use

16:20this land for uh you know job creation.

16:23Uh the there's been a number of reasons

16:26why that hasn't moved forward but one of

16:28them is certainly that the site is not

16:30amassed legally. It's all still

16:32individually parcled and has the

16:35streets. So by removing the legal

16:37streets and eventually coming back at

16:39consolidating the properties, I think

16:41we're able to meet the intent of this.

16:44If I had been kind of forcibly relocated

16:47nearly 30 years ago and the land sat

16:49vacant for this long, I'd be pretty

16:50frustrated. So I think this is a

16:52movement in the right direction.

16:54>> Got it. Yes.

16:55>> Any other questions from my colleague?

16:56>> Yes, m Madam Chair.

16:58>> Councilman Jones,

16:59>> how many homes was uh vacated off this

17:01particular property? director.

17:03>> Uh I don't have that information on me,

17:05but I can certainly get that for you.

17:07But um as Councilman referenced, all all

17:10of those streets that are being vacated

17:12all had single family homes on them.

17:14>> I remember when it happened way back in

17:16the day, we voted for it was a very

17:17contentious vote. Then Mayor Mike White

17:19was the mayor of the city of Cleveland.

17:21Um how much money was used, do we know

17:23from the federal government to at least

17:26purchase reclaim this back?

17:28Um so again I don't have that

17:30information with me but we can go

17:32through the records and and make and

17:34find that out.

17:35>> U madam chairwoman to director um how

17:38many acres are we talking about here?

17:41>> Uh through the chairman the councilman.

17:42So this is uh approximately 30 acres. So

17:46it's quite a quite a large site.

17:48>> And what is the suggestion u madam

17:50chairwoman to the director in terms of

17:52economic development?

17:54Um, so at at this point we do have a

17:58development planned um with the uh

18:03Department of Development and

18:05>> I'm gonna I'm gonna have to bring the

18:07Department of Development up if you'd

18:09like to hear more about that. I would.

18:10>> Yeah,

18:13>> I pay some political capital on this

18:15one.

18:21>> Well, good. We hear it again. Yeah,

18:25>> sorry. Through the chair, what was the

18:26question?

18:27>> The question was, what is the future

18:29site? What are you looking to do here in

18:30terms of economic development?

18:32>> Madame Chairwoman, to the director's

18:34assistant, I'm sorry, what's your name?

18:36>> David Lucas, director of business

18:38growth. Very nice to meet you,

18:39Councilman.

18:40>> Uh through the chair. So, the plan is to

18:42get this site ready for industrial

18:43redevelopment. It's zoned semi-industry.

18:46So, um, our hope is that we'll get, uh,

18:48a development plan that has high job

18:50density, uh, that's within the the

18:52current zoning of semi-industrial. So,

18:54nothing heavy, but it's going to be, um,

18:56hopefully hopefully, you know, advanced

18:58manufacturing. These are going to be

19:00good paying jobs. Depending on how, uh,

19:03uh, depending on how many buildings, uh,

19:05will fit on the site and and um, the

19:08size of the buildings, that will really

19:09determine how many jobs that this will

19:11create. But, I mean, it's it's 30 acres.

19:15you you could fit a lot uh on a site

19:17like that. So, we're very excited. This

19:19is one of this is going to be one of our

19:20most attractive industrial development

19:22sites when it's all said and done.

19:23>> So, there's no housing here at all. This

19:25is just for the most part to to bring in

19:28an industrial parkway to be on this

19:30particular side

19:32>> through the chair. That's right. Uh so,

19:34there's already a lot of industrial use

19:36in this area. There's um Cisco, there's

19:39uh Constant Aviation on Cleveland

19:42Parkway. The the intent was for this to

19:43be a full-scale industrial park. Uh when

19:46we when we um uh gave Chelm Properties

19:49the development rights in early 2000s,

19:52uh but as as Councilman's Life

19:54mentioned, there hadn't been any

19:56development since that initial phase

19:58ended. So, we're excited that there's

20:00now some some new activity at this site.

20:04Um yeah.

20:07So looking at this particular site here

20:09just out of curiosity because I know

20:12that there was much debate uh and there

20:14was a lot of politics uh back in the

20:17late 90s concerning this particular site

20:20and what would be done here. Um just

20:22futuristically speaking um would there

20:26be a possibility that the city at some

20:28point would would have to come back and

20:30say hey our population is booming. We're

20:33bringing in economic development and we

20:34do need that longer airport stretch. Was

20:37there any discussion, any talk or any

20:39thought about that

20:41>> uh through the chairman, the councilman?

20:42So, this particular area, as councilman

20:46said, was was um the houses were removed

20:49due to noise abatement. So if there's an

20:52industrial use there, those can still

20:55remain even even if a future runway

20:57would be which is not planned, but even

20:59if a future runway was planned, it it's

21:02the houses and the homes and the

21:03residents that needed to be relocated,

21:06not not industrial uses.

21:08>> So I see. So basically, this was just

21:10moved out the way because that runway

21:11and the planes flying overhead were

21:13caused for the noise and then that's the

21:15reason why they this particular section

21:17they vacated out.

21:18>> That that's correct. Then there's

21:20federal rules that we needed to follow

21:22back back back then regarding decibb and

21:25how close people could be to the the

21:27path of the airplanes.

21:28>> Thank thank you madam chairwoman to

21:30director.

21:30>> Thank you. Any other questions?

21:34>> Yes.

21:38>> Oh.

21:38>> Oh

21:40see.

21:41>> Thank you. Um

21:43>> yeah.

21:44>> Yes.

21:45Um,

21:48>> oh yeah, I have to read this in.

21:50>> Do you have it?

21:51>> Yeah. So there is no legal objection to

21:53the legislation amended as follow in

21:55section one at the second paragraph of

21:57the legal description line one strike

22:00and all of Midville Avenue southwest 50

22:03ft wide and insert and being all of West

22:07188th Street Elmwood Avenue 50 ft wide

22:11and portion of Midwell Midvil Avenue

22:13Southwest 50t wide in the Conger Helper

22:18re realy company's home gardens aotment

22:21as shown by the recorded plot in volume

22:2463 of maps page 10 of Kayoa County

22:26Records. We got that.

22:28>> Do I have to read this whole section too

22:29or could I just have members? [laughter]

22:32>> No, that's fine. I'll read it. Um

22:35>> yeah, in section two at the end, insert

22:37the following new paragraph.

22:39Notwithstanding the foregoing to the

22:41extent any portion of the easement is no

22:44longer necessary for the utility purpose

22:46for which it is reserved including as a

22:49result of the relocation, removal,

22:51abandonment and modification of utility

22:53facilities. Such portion may be released

22:55or relocated in accordance with

22:57applicable law. Any such release or or

23:01relocation shall be evidenced by an

23:03appropriate instrument executed on

23:05behalf of city and when required

23:07approved by director of law and recorded

23:09with the Kyoha County Recorder for

23:11easement interest relating to city

23:13utility facilities. Any release of any

23:15easement that is no longer needed shall

23:17be undertaken in accordance with section

23:20129.20

23:22of the codified ordinance of Cleveland.

23:25>> Thank you.

23:26>> Did I do a good job?

23:26>> Thank you.

23:27>> You got that? Okay. [laughter]

23:30Um Okay. So, no questions. No. Okay.

23:33Hearing no other questions. Ordinance

23:35number 921-2026

23:37has been approved. Please, as amended,

23:38please sign up. There you go. Um and

23:42then our last one for the day. It's

23:45ordinance number 927-2026

23:48by council members Conwell, Santana,

23:50Palencic, and Griffin. an or an

23:52emergency ordinance authorizing

23:54director's public health development or

23:56public safety to enter into one or more

23:58agreement with the board of education of

24:00the Cleveland Municipal School District

24:02for exchange of land for future rede

24:04redevelopment and the mutual benefit of

24:07parties and authorizing the major mayor

24:09and the commissioner of purchases and

24:11supplies to acquire and convey the

24:13properties director.

24:15>> Um Mrs. Uh uh chairwoman, this is

24:20related to a land swap with CMSD that's

24:23needed for the new Glennville High

24:25School and it has um gone through a few

24:28committees so far, the municipal

24:30services and properties committee and

24:31the health committee. Um and we have a

24:34few more committees to go after today.

24:36We have um safety committee and finance

24:38committee. So, um I'm going to um first

24:43just say that this type of transaction

24:45is authorized by the Ohio Revised Code

24:48and we've done this many times in in my

24:51tenure here at the city. Um and the

24:53requirement is that there's a mutual

24:55benefit of both parties. And so what

24:57we're going to outline here, um,

24:59Commissioner DJ Janeiro is going to go

25:01through the slides just to show which

25:02properties be are going to be swapped

25:04and I'll reference what the benefit of

25:06of of uh receiving those properties are

25:09and then uh I'll say a few more words

25:12and we'll open it up to questions.

25:13>> Got it. Thank you.

25:16>> Thank you. So the properties to be

25:17swapped include the following. Um Jay

25:20Glenn Smith Health Center located at

25:221111

25:24St. Claire is going to be transferred to

25:27CMSD for the new Glennville High School

25:29as the director said along with two

25:32landbank parcels

25:34um near near the site of the new high

25:37school which are shown there. And then

25:39the city is also going to transfer a

25:42land bank lot shown here uh to CMSD for

25:46use for school purposes at Delison

25:49Dennis Elementary School. Um, and then

25:52in exchange, CMSD will transfer to the

25:54city

25:56Walton School, um, which is located at

25:593409 Walton Avenue, and that's going to

26:01be transferred to the Department of

26:03Public Safety for use as a a future fire

26:05station. And also Newton D. Baker,

26:10oops,

26:14there we go. Newton D. acre will be

26:17transferred to the city um for use for

26:21future redevelopment.

26:24>> So if we if we could go back to the

26:26first slide with Jay Glenn Health

26:28Center, um I wanted to reference that

26:31what you see around it. So if you're

26:33looking at the screen to the right is

26:35the parking for the current uh

26:37Glennville High School and the the

26:39building that you see at the very bottom

26:40of the screen that is the current uh

26:42Glennville High School. and we have been

26:44working with CMSD on a master plan for

26:47that area and that would include a brand

26:49new high school as well as um a YMCA at

26:53this location. We do have an MOU among

26:56the parties to uh work together on this

26:59plan. Um and the um the current high

27:04school um would be built in conjunction

27:08with a separate building for the YMCA,

27:10but they would really speak to each

27:11other as well as speak to the park that

27:13surrounds it. So that's Forest Hills

27:14Park that you see to the left. Um Dr.

27:17Margolius spoke um at the health

27:20committee about the future of Jay Glenn.

27:23Um, council members may recall there

27:25were a couple years ago, uh, the health

27:27department announced that they were

27:28closing both the Macafferty Center on

27:31Lorraine Avenue as well as Jay Glenn at

27:33this location. Um, so Macafferty is

27:36already closed and uh, the Cleveland

27:39Department of Health has moved to a

27:40lease space in in your ward. Um and then

27:43at this location, uh Department of

27:46Health is working on a location in this

27:49area as um with Metro Health because

27:52Metro Health is currently in this

27:53building as well as Cleveland Health and

27:56so they're working on uh where uh health

28:00services would be offered in the in the

28:02neighborhood. Councilman Conwell,

28:04Councilman Planser are adamant that

28:05there is a replacement site. Um Dr. Mar

28:08Margolius is um absolutely working

28:12towards that. We just don't have a

28:14location yet.

28:16>> Thank you, director.

28:17>> Um now, this this building would be

28:19demolished by CMSD and we would be uh

28:24responsible for our share of that

28:25demolition cost. Um we've done this um

28:28at the JFK High School site and we found

28:31that we received better pricing if all

28:33the buildings were demolished at the

28:35same time. So, at the time it was the

28:37JFK High School and it was the JFK rec

28:40center. We we had put they put it out to

28:44bid and our share of the rec center um

28:46demolition was our cost to to pay and it

28:49was much less expensive than we

28:50anticipated.

28:52Um

28:54so if you if you move to the next slide

28:57um commissioner

28:59um so these these are the land banks

29:01that again is the um the high school

29:03that you see in the top right and these

29:04are land bank parcels off of Lake View.

29:07Um so this is the Walton school former

29:11Walton school. Um it has been closed. It

29:14is not part of the new school closures.

29:17It was closed before the building

29:18brighter futures plan came out. I think

29:20it was like it's been 5 years or so. I

29:23mean, yeah, it's been vacant for a while

29:25>> and it's it's rough. We tooured it on

29:27the inside. There was a reason why it

29:29closed. It's it's uh the building is in

29:31poor condition. So, um the as part of

29:35the fire and EMS modernization plan,

29:38there are certain fire stations that

29:40need to be replaced that can't be added

29:43on to. And so this this would replace um

29:46one of those fire stations which is

29:48number

29:49>> 23

29:50>> 24.

29:50>> Oh 24 was close.

29:52>> Yeah.

29:53>> Which is very small. I want my

29:55colleagues to understand this fire

29:57station is small. It's been there for

29:58years. They don't even have parking.

30:00>> Yes.

30:00>> So yes,

30:02>> which is why we can't just, you know,

30:04add on to it or why we can't just

30:06modernize it.

30:07>> So tomorrow at safety committee, we

30:10welcome um anyone interested. will be

30:12presenting the fire and EMS

30:13modernization plan at safety committee.

30:16Um, and so this this, you know, it's

30:19basically a comprehensive plan that

30:20would been uh looking at every single

30:23fire and EMS station throughout the city

30:25to determine um which ones can be

30:28renovated, which ones need an addition,

30:30and which ones need to be rebuilt

30:32because you just can't um find the space

30:34for it. So, if you um if you move to the

30:38next slide, so this is the Newton D.

30:41Baker School um in Councilman Slice Ward

30:45and uh this would be uh this would be

30:48transferred to the Department of

30:49Development for future development and

30:51it's something that we've been working

30:52with the councilman on um because this

30:55is really a a a key uh large site um in

31:00in uh his neighborhood that would be

31:03ripe for development. So we are um

31:07looking to receive this from CMSD for

31:09future development. Um both of those

31:12schools the city's responsible for the

31:14demolition of um we are applying to the

31:18county land bank for state funds for the

31:22demolition. Um and then there would be

31:26uh a match involved that the city would

31:28be responsible for. Um but we are um

31:32hopeful that we would receive some grant

31:35funds for the demolition to defer the

31:36cost of that. Um it is estimated that

31:39both of these schools are uh 1.3 to 1.5

31:43million to demolish. So we're going

31:45after all the grant funds that we can.

31:48Yeah. Mhm.

31:49>> And um and so um the match funds for the

31:54this site um would need to come from the

31:56department of development because we

31:58don't have a future use a city use for

32:00the site. Whereas um the match funds for

32:03um the Walton school site would be

32:05through the capital plan because as a

32:08future fire station it's eligible for

32:10bond

32:11>> bond use. Yes.

32:14>> Uh let's see. I think we have do we have

32:16one more picture there? Oh, the Dennis

32:18School. So, um, Councilwoman, we did

32:20look into with CMSD what their future

32:22use of this land would be. It's a quite

32:24a large land bank site. Um, they said

32:27that securing the land is is the first

32:30step, which would be through this land

32:32swap, and it would either be used for,

32:34um, additional parking, um, circulation,

32:38and maybe a little bit of green space.

32:40Got it. So, they don't have a firm plan

32:41yet, but they will come back to you when

32:43they're ready to to to um make use of

32:46that property.

32:46>> And it's a small parcel right now. It's

32:48just filled with overgrowth and trees.

32:50Yes. So, people hide back there. So, I'm

32:53glad that they're clearing it out. Um

32:56>> so, what's the timeline on demo?

32:59>> So, um great question. So, the mayor and

33:01the administration have made promises to

33:04council and to the community that we're

33:06going to work hard to get um buildings

33:08demolished quickly so that we don't have

33:11vacant buildings in the neighborhood. Um

33:13and so we would uh demo would be next

33:16year assuming that council approves the

33:18capital plan uh and and you know

33:21hopefully we get the grant funds. The

33:23application for the grant funds is just

33:25about two weeks away. So, we will know

33:27about the grant funds this year and then

33:29we'll be going through the capital plan

33:31with council this year. So, we would

33:33have the funds ready to move into

33:34demolition next year. Um, now the Jay

33:37Glenn demolition and the high school

33:38demolition would be would also be next

33:41year, but it would be um this um

33:44Glennville High School is going to be

33:45open for this current school year. So

33:48when they finish school in June, then

33:51CMSD would start with abatement and then

33:53they would go into demolition probably

33:55in late fall for the demolition of Jay

33:58Glenn in the high school.

33:59>> Got it. And when would you anticipate us

34:02seeing a fire station in the area?

34:04>> Um that I I don't know. So, what we're

34:08doing is we're being smart about getting

34:10site control and um we're trying to have

34:15better foresight for what we're going to

34:17need. And so, we're securing the land.

34:20But as far as which stations get rebuilt

34:23when and and how we budget for that, we

34:26haven't we haven't um you know this this

34:30wouldn't be one of the first ones to get

34:31rebuilt ne you know so but we have to we

34:34have to do um so we're going to make

34:40improvements to all of the fire stations

34:42and then the rebuilds would be based

34:44upon the ones that have the highest

34:46need. Mhm.

34:47>> So, yeah. And I did want to say that

34:49CMSD's board of education has already

34:51approved this land swap. We always have

34:55the board of education approve first and

34:57then we come to city council because

34:59it's it's, you know, there it's um the

35:02board of education um needs to decide

35:05how they wish for their schools to be

35:07disposed of. Um and so um so now we're

35:12at city council, someone has to go

35:13first. So we always have the board of

35:15education go first. Got it. Okay. Any

35:17questions from my colleagues?

35:20Councilman Joe Jones,

35:22>> do you have questions?

35:24>> Not really.

35:25>> Okay.

35:25>> Mr. Chair, Chairwoman, thank you. Um,

35:28looking at this, if you could elaborate

35:29on the site on Glennville,

35:32which which one is that one?

35:33>> Uh, the Jay Glenn site.

35:35>> Yeah. Is that

35:36>> So, that's the health health center.

35:40>> Okay. So, we're gonna just make sure I'm

35:42clear on what you're saying. We're going

35:44to actually tear this down. Correct.

35:45this.

35:46>> Yes, that's correct.

35:48>> And then we'll also have will we be able

35:50to use to the left and to the right that

35:52space for the new or will that space

35:54from the left and the right which we

35:56parking uh will all that be a part of I

35:59would presume the new high school

36:01>> uh through the chairman and the

36:02councilman. Great question. I'm glad you

36:04asked it because only the land of the

36:07light to the right which CMSD already

36:09owns.

36:10>> Which one is that? Is that

36:11>> where the parking lot is?

36:13>> Yes, CMSD already owns that.

36:15Well, we we own that land to the left,

36:17but I'm glad you brought it up because

36:18that's part of Forest Hills Park and

36:21we're not transferring any park land to

36:23CMSD or any other party. And um so we

36:28are very um cognizant of the need to

36:32keep the park space sacred and we are

36:34not transferring any park space to any

36:37third party.

36:37>> Too much park space.

36:39>> Well, it's it's kind of narrow there. is

36:41houses on this side of it or is it not

36:43houses?

36:44>> Uh there are there's a sewer district um

36:47facility at the corner and then there

36:49are houses just south of that.

36:51>> This is all the park they got. Huh?

36:53>> Excuse me.

36:54>> This is all the space they have.

36:55>> Well, but the park is um both north and

36:58south of St. Clair. The park continues

37:00south.

37:01>> You talking about on that side of the

37:02street?

37:03>> Well, that there is a park Forest Hills

37:05continues to the north side.

37:07>> Oh, yeah. It goes all the way down to

37:09where you have um Bump Taylor Field and

37:12and the former Stephanie Tubs Jones

37:14School. So, the park park widens out

37:17after after the high school, but that is

37:19a a narrow stretch there.

37:21>> And and this school here that they're

37:23proposing to build, how much is it going

37:25to be?

37:27>> Uh boy, I'm not You don't know either?

37:30Yeah, we we don't know. I can get that

37:32for you, but I don't have that number. I

37:33know that it is approved by the OFCC.

37:36Okay. So they would have a budget for

37:38it.

37:39>> And then if we could go to the email be

37:43no well correction the Newton debaker

37:45site.

37:46>> Um when is the timeline to tear that

37:49school down?

37:51>> Um through the chairman of the

37:52councilman. So as I as I referenced to

37:56um councilwoman the demolitions would

37:59happen next year but we're applying for

38:01grant funds this month. We're going to

38:04see if we get those grant funds. We're

38:06also including um

38:10uh um you know the department of

38:12development is working on where the

38:14funds would come from from for the

38:16demolition of that if we don't get the

38:17grant funds

38:18>> and CMSD currently owns the property at

38:21this space in time. Correct.

38:22>> Um that's correct. And and I I failed to

38:24mention that this school has also been

38:26closed for several years. It's not part

38:28of the building brighter futures um

38:31program. It's it's been closed now for a

38:33couple years and is in poor shape. is in

38:35poor shape.

38:36>> Yes, sir.

38:37>> Um, has it been vandalized, Madam

38:39Chairwoman, to the director?

38:41>> Uh, I I do not know. I know there's a

38:43nice uh big ugly fence around it.

38:47[laughter] Maybe it's keeping people

38:48out. I'm not sure.

38:52>> It It's a through the chair to answer.

38:53Uh there's been uh one or two people

38:56breaking in and that's been responded to

38:58pretty quickly. It hasn't uh been an

39:02attractive nuisance yet. Uh but there's

39:05been some increased alarm. So I am a bit

39:07worried about it becoming more of an

39:09attractive nuisance especially as we've

39:10seen uh people for entertainment sort of

39:15trying to break into these buildings. Uh

39:17certainly excited to not have that

39:19opportunity in the middle of the

39:21neighborhood here.

39:22>> It it is a great I remember I have fine

39:26years uh madam chairwoman to director uh

39:29attending this school and I think you

39:31attended it too, right? And um yeah, you

39:35know, way back in the days when busing

39:37>> when it first opened

39:38>> 1978, [laughter]

39:42>> you know, so so I I I [laughter] like

39:46that one. That's a good one. Joking.

39:47>> No, that's okay. I I I know you're

39:49joking. You know, that's a good one.

39:51>> Um but it's a really, you know, I just I

39:54hate to see it go. Um what is the

39:56potential uh usage that we're thinking

39:59about here? um through the chairman of

40:02the councilman. So um you know this is a

40:05heavy heavy residential area. Um so

40:08residential is the first thing one might

40:10think about but really it would be a

40:12community process and working with the

40:14councilman to determine the best use for

40:16this property.

40:18>> Okay. No further questions madam

40:20chairwoman to director. I just you know

40:22that's the first time I've ever heard

40:23you talk about going to state to get

40:25funds for demolition. I think that's

40:27wonderful. Um, and I think that uh

40:30you're doing a wonderful job, too. Thank

40:32you, Madam Chair, to director.

40:34>> Thank Thank you. Um, councilman. Any

40:36other questions? No. Hearing no other

40:39questions. Ordinance number 927-2026

40:42has been approved. Please sign on. And

40:45this concludes uh DPS. Thank you. Oh no.

40:49Oh, let me announce that 1031-2026

40:53um many of the council members did not

40:55understand the funding source for legal

40:56aid. So, we are going to hear that next

40:59Tuesday. Um, okay. So, we just had three

41:02pieces today. So, once again, thank you.

41:05You didn't get to talk.

41:06>> Thank you.

41:07>> They didn't put you to work. Do you?

41:08Yes. You want to say something?

41:10>> Hello, madam chair and council. Thank

41:12you very much. [laughter]

41:14>> Perfect.

41:14>> Thank you. This concludes Thank you.

41:16Have a good night.

41:17>> Thank you very much.