2026-10-22 - Zoning & Planning

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03:51>>Chair Kia'aina: aloha

03:53good morning everyone.

03:54It is Thursday, October 22,

03:562026.

03:58Time is 9:04 a.m.

04:00Will Committee on Zoning and

04:02Planning meeting please come

04:03to order.

04:05I would like to welcome the

04:05following committee members.

04:07Councilmember Cordero,

16:01>>Testifier: aloha chair

16:03vice chair, members of the

16:05committee.

16:13(Hawaiian language).

16:13I'm also the co-chair of the

16:15resolution u reservation

16:16advisory board at Bellows Air

16:18Force station in Waimanalo.

16:20I'm speak to today personal

16:22capacity.

16:231993, Congress itself wrote

16:25these lands were seeded and I

16:26Kyo-Ya, without the qu quote

16:29without consent to

16:30compensation it Native

16:31Hawaiian people.

16:32Taken without consent.

16:33Where I come from, as a n has a

16:36name.

16:37AIHUI theft.

16:39This was crown land.

16:40Still crown land.

16:42Waimanalo sugar company.

16:44Lessee cannot sell what it

16:46does not own.

16:47Air Force p produced no deed.

16:50Only executive order.

16:52State hood require military to

16:54report continued need by 1964.

16:56Surf not needed, the land if

16:58not needed land shall Be

17:00conveyed to state end quote.

17:02So where are the receipts?

17:05No chain of title of no

17:08section 5E report.

17:09No one has produced that, I'll

17:12summarize.

17:16So please runway is closed

17:191958.

17:20Since then, Air Force share

17:22has been run as resort

17:23advertise the as a cheap

17:25Hawaiian lodging.

17:25It has been 7 gen 7 generations

17:28since the overthrow and keiki

17:29are still waiting.

17:30Please adopt amendments I

17:32submitted in writing.

17:33One parcel by parcel access

17:34review.

17:35Two, clean up that stays,

17:38military responsibility

17:39without holding up the return.

17:41And then, 3, return to the

17:43public land trust.

17:45And never sold.

17:46Hawaiian hands in Hawaiian

17:48lands.

17:48Please keep us involved.

17:50I stand by for any questions.

17:51Mahalo chair.

17:53>>Chair Kia'aina: sure.

17:54Thank you. Actually, if you

17:56just stay up there because you

17:57are of course, a leader of the

18:03community and also, on the

18:06Waimanalo neighborhood board.

18:07So can you see elaborate

18:08little more by know you talked

18:10about the history but just

18:11talk ab about the relationship

18:13with the Waimanalo community.

18:14I do know that they actually

18:16have initiatives I think we're

18:17going to hear from other

18:18testifiers.

18:19But can you just share

18:21personally your mana'o and

18:23your feeling on behalf of your

18:26family and yourself with

18:27regard to the relationship

18:28between the U.S. Air Force and

18:32whether or not you just think

18:33it's high time for them to

18:34return the lands?

18:35>>Testifier: mahalo chair

18:36for the question.

18:38Opportunity to respond.

18:40For myself personally, for my

18:41ohana, been a long time com

18:43coming.

18:43It's been generations of work.

18:46Within the last three com

18:46commanders there, at Bellows

18:49Air Force station.

18:50Shift in time u tide and

18:51change.

18:52When it comes to community

18:53engagement and relationship.

18:56For the past 3, if I can

18:57recall, maybe four commands,

19:01we from the community end have

19:02developed a Waimanalo

19:03community working group and

19:04have been working closely with

19:06the command there at Bellows

19:07for restoration efforts for

19:10iwi kupuna protections.

19:12For the clean-up, and we

19:14always consult us.

19:17And I believe we've been only

19:19community in the last decade

19:20or two that has been able to

19:22establish comprehensive

19:25agreement with the leadership

19:27at Bellows Air Force station

19:29through Cadinha.

19:31So I will admit, and I really

19:34applaud Air Force in taking

19:35the initiative to understand

19:37the communities that they're

19:38occupying.

19:40And trying their very best to

19:43course correct and become good

19:45neighbors.

19:47But last question, is it time?

19:50Absolutely.

19:52Executive order was 1917.

19:56And so over 100 years ago this

19:57community has had to burden,

20:00had it burden this occupation.

20:02I can agree and concede

20:04military readiness.

20:06However, resort for n

20:09nonindividuals to Be deployed,

20:11in Waimanalo, is AHOL echt

20:20LE st today.>>Chair Kia'aina: a

20:23questions?

20:24Thank you so much.

20:25Next testifier is Keone deF

20:30deFRANCO.

20:42Aloha Chair members Council.

20:46I strongly support it's return

20:47of Bellows to the people of

20:48Hawaii.

20:49In Waimanalo, we're already

20:51building future the we

20:52envisioned for these lands.

20:55Purple fo foundation creating

20:58pathways for Waimanalo youth

21:00to earn college credits

21:02associate degrees in Hawaiian

21:04knowledge systems Innovation

21:05Hawaiian, hui Malama

21:08foundation, leading

21:09educational programming at

21:10Hanauma Bay, through a new

21:12partnership with the city

21:13nation of Hawaii, over 1,000

21:15monthly v volunteers are re

21:17restoring streams, reopening

21:18lohi and bringing Navy life

21:20back to waters.

21:22Native life.

21:23Demonstrates it capacity to

21:25restore and steward ancestral

21:27lands for future generations.

21:28I urge Council to support and

21:30formal comanagement agreement

21:32that gives Waimanalo community

21:34meaningful authority in

21:35stewarding Bellows.

21:36With the proposed office of

21:37what resources helping to

21:39coordinate established require

21:41Federal Government to fund

21:42environmental assessment and

21:44clean-up of Mary L. Lan and

21:46clandz I will packed by militar

21:49impacted by military use.

21:51Return land to stewardship.

21:55Restore not only ancestral

21:56land kuleana and mor authority

21:59Mato malama aina.

22:04>>Chair Kia'aina: ques

22:05questions?

22:05Next testifier is Pua Honua

22:08Dennis Kanahele.

22:23Aloha Chair Councilmembers.

22:26Dennis b bumpy Kanahele.

22:29Head of state of nation of

22:29Hawaii.

22:33Stand by my written testimony.

22:34Submitted regarding Bellows

22:36Air Force station.

22:37Today I want to emfoo FEMA ISIS

22:41fundamental points.

22:43Emphasize.

22:44Reckon station public law.

22:481 the 93 United States

22:48acknowledged role in over

22:50throw of the Hawaiian Kingdom

22:51kingdom.

22:52Recognized suppression of

22:53Native Hawaiian sovereignty an

22:55call for re reconciliation.

22:57More than 30 years later we

22:58must ask ourselves what

23:01reconciliation Doug amen me.

23:05>>Councilmember Menor:s in

23:06practice.

23:06Acknowledging the past -- me

23:08means in practice.

23:09Acknowledging PA past cash

23:12register to address the pas

23:16past, -- or address the past.

23:19Serious discussion about

23:20HaHawaiian lands Native Hawaiia

23:22self-determination and

23:23governancer, cultural

23:25preservation an responsibility

23:27to future generations.

23:29Bellows presents opportunity

23:31to move that discussion

23:31forward.

23:33I urge this Council to support

23:35the return of these lands to

23:36people of Hawaii.

23:38And to advocate for a process

23:40that gives Native Hawaiians

23:42meaningful voice in dete

23:43determining their future.

23:46Speak from experience in

23:46Waimanalo.

23:47Our work at puuhonua Waimanalo

23:50village includes all day

23:53activity and efforts to r

23:55reconnect our ahupuaa through

23:57Pua street.

23:58Demonstrates stewa stewardship

24:01cultural responsibility and

24:02community well-being must Be

24:04go together.

24:06Recognizes that our people

24:07hold different views about

24:08Hawaii's public utility Cal

24:09future.

24:11But political future.

24:12Reconciliation gives us common

24:13ground we can begin by res

24:15respecting our aina,

24:17strengthening our communities,

24:18and ensuring that Native

24:20Hawaiians are meaningful

24:22participants in decisions that

24:24affect their home la land.

24:27Ask this Council to see

24:29resolution 26-236 as PHRO*R

24:31than a request more than a

24:32request concerning military

24:34property.

24:35I see it opportunity to

24:37Advance reconciliation through

24:39action, and apology

24:41acknowledged past,

24:44reconciliation challenges us

24:45to change the future.

24:47Mahalo.

24:48>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

24:49you so much.

24:50I greatly appreciate you sigh

24:53apology resolution.

24:54Signing apology resolution.

24:56Read Text of the resolution,

24:57it doesn't simply, apologize

24:59for the overthrow.

25:03It actually directions

25:05Congress and the United States

25:07to acknowledge ramification of

25:09the overthrow.

25:10And that would be the loss and

25:11sovereignty of lands.

25:13OOf the Hawaiian people.

25:15Second, as you mentioned,

25:17reconciliation, reconciliation

25:19was never meant to be stag

25:20stagnant.

25:21It meant to be ever evolving.

25:23Because it's going to be a

25:24long time in coming when there

25:26is ever true reckon sail sill

25:30reconciliation.Question can hop

25:33kick started to the have a

25:34dialogue with the appropriate

25:35parties, the Hawaiian

25:36community, Waimanalo comm

25:38community, and State of Hawaii

25:39DepartmentDepartment of Hawaiia

25:41homelands.

25:42In a he will aye deal world,

25:43who do you ideal world, ho do

25:45you think these lands Be

25:46returned to?

25:47>>Testifier: I think people

25:49going to decide that.

25:51>>Chair Kia'aina: okay.

25:52YYou will help participating

25:54with that dined ciefned

25:57kind dialogue.>>Testifier: yes.

25:58Always.

25:58>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

25:59you so much. Moments any

25:59questions for Mr. Kanahele?

26:01Thank you.

26:03Next testifier is Leina'ala

26:04lei.

26:12>>Testifier: good morning

26:13chair Kia'Aina members of the

26:14committee.

26:15Mahalo.

26:15For the oppor opportunity t

26:18testify.

26:20Elena all lei.

26:20Chief advocate of the office

26:21of Hawaiian affairs.

26:23Over the past year, OHA has

26:26prior tied expiring military

26:28leases as an opportunity --

26:30prioritized, for our community

26:32in engage in dialogue who what

26:34is the future of Hawaiian Mary

26:38lands not leased currently, the

26:40provide extremely compelling

26:43case for return.

26:45Because they are crown lands.

26:47Of the kingdom of Hawaii.

26:49And while others have already

26:50testified there is a pathway

26:52for legal return of all lands

26:55currently held by the United

26:56States.

26:57I think crown lands,

26:59particularly compelling case.

27:01Because of the nature at the

27:02time of the overthrow.

27:06Throughout the process of

27:06review of military leases, OHA

27:09emphasizes compliance with

27:11existing laws and here, we

27:12have public law 88233, which

27:15provides legal pathway for the

27:17United States military it

27:19re-examineel surplus lands and

27:23Waimanalo is currently in

27:25recreationally use.

27:27Not consistent.

27:28With the executive order

27:29purposes for which it was

27:31originally s set aside.

27:32The question posed by the

27:35situation is why should these

27:36lands remain in military

27:38control.

27:38Are they is you is your Mrs. or

27:42tend use surplus.

27:43Require military to examine

27:44it's time to return them.

27:46Intended use.

27:48Emphasize honor to stand with

27:49the community.

27:50Heard over the past year and

27:51consultation return of crown

27:52and government Mary L. Lan is

27:54priority for our community,

27:55lands, this as you heard from

27:57other defers, c defer testifier

28:01conversation long time coming.

28:03Mahalo you advancing this

28:04conversation.

28:05Setting forth t the bases for

28:08the military to take action

28:09and to really Advance what is

28:14a legal practicable and

28:16reasonable solution to the

28:19resolution of Wahine c Hawaiian.

28:23>>Chair Kia'aina: assuming

28:24should th there Be a process

28:26undertaken office a Hawaiian

28:27affairs would standing ready

28:30to help in that dialogue?

28:33Ask question with regard to

28:33other recreational land on

28:35Oahu.

28:36Is it OHA position that

28:38perhaps other recreational

28:40lands on the Waianae Coast and

28:43in Waikiki, that are used for

28:46recreational purposes, should

28:48also Be part of this d dialogue?

28:51>>Testifier: we believe that

28:52transparency and

28:53accountability is paramount

28:55and yes, all of the currently

28:57held lands whether lease or

28:59fee should be re-examined as

29:00part of the generational

29:01expiration of military he's

29:03leases.

29:03>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

29:04you so much.

29:05Wanted to ask that.

29:06It took a while to put

29:08together the information and

29:12Waimanalo my district.

29:14And so we have two of the

29:15Councilmembers reco representin

29:17other districts.

29:18It just takes time too work

29:20the facing together.

29:24-facts together.Thank you for y.

29:32State your name.

29:34Anyone else wishing to tes

29:35testify.

29:36>>Testifier: Mary aloha chair

29:43Councilmembers.

29:45Brendan MAKAW a AWA vice

29:50president nation of Hawaii.

29:50Sit on the community board

29:52that mentioned earlier.

29:54I'm in you will if support of

29:56this resolution.

29:59For the facts that have

30:00already been stated.

30:01But I always hear of the

30:04military talking about

30:06military readiness f for us as

30:09Hawaiians, what about aina

30:11worthyness?

30:12WhWhat about Waipahu l R&D Ines?

30:15When we readiness talk about

30:17reckoreconciliation an return o

30:18our Mary L. Lan longer we keep

30:21longest lands longer we Kimo pe

30:23laptds we so learn to develop

30:25kskills steward those land.

30:29Government, has a hard time

30:30stewarding lands if they're

30:32not living in alignment with

30:34Hawaiian principles, with the

30:36rules of the ahupuaa system

30:37and we see that constantly in

30:38Waimanalo.

30:40There's big flood events that

30:42happen down there we have to

30:43go through different channels

30:45just to get it fixed.

30:46And that affects our comm

30:48community.

30:49So as far as we talking about

30:51readiness, ahupuaa readiness

30:54should Trump military re

30:56readiness.

30:56Especially in our community.

30:58And like my uncle shared

31:00before, we have shown that

31:02readiness already.

31:03We have aina days.

31:05Every month.

31:05For the last 3 years.

31:07Where we resu restoreing above

31:10bellow Air Force Station.

31:11That restoration work is, been

31:13showing true results.

31:14And we believe this

31:15restoration work needs to

31:17continue from mauka to makai.

31:19Adding Bellows to that

31:20restorestoration work, is a key

31:23vital component of our

31:25community safety and island I

31:27readiness for our people.

31:28Mahalo.

31:29>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

31:30you so much.

31:31I know that you ventedly got a

31:32grant recently got a grant

31:33from the climate change fund.

31:36In concert with the mayor's

31:38office of culture and the arts

31:39can you talk a little bit

31:40about that?

31:42>>Test prevely?

31:43>>Testifier: yes.

31:44Briefly.

31:44>> thank you to everyone

31:46everybody helped support that.

31:49Our climate change grant is

31:51really about teaching our

31:53community about the values of

31:55ahupuaa.

31:56And especially in today's some

31:59people don't like to hear the

32:00word climate change, and

32:02whatever, for Hawaiians shall

32:04we never had to have climate

32:07change and all of that.

32:08We adapted to our climate.

32:09But we don't understand how

32:11that right now.

32:13So part of our grant is

32:15extensive education, extensive

32:18volunteer work helping our

32:19nation, but also down at the

32:21makai and so this is all in

32:24alignment when we're talking

32:25about in this resolution.

32:27Returning this aina that is

32:30recreational, Pua stream

32:34starts in our aina.

32:36Up mauka at Puuhonua Waim

32:38Waimanalo.

32:38Enters the Kai.

32:41The a Bellows. These links

32:42need to be connected and what

32:44we teaching about ahupuaa,

32:46right now, is hard to teach

32:48the full story without both

32:51mauka and makai in alignment.

32:54And so the grant helps with

32:57beginning that education.

32:58But we would like to take that

33:00work downstream and continue

33:02that.

33:02So people really understand

33:04the impact of what we can

33:06restore in ahupuaa, not j Juste

33:11for good feelings.

33:12This is for public safety.

33:14Not just for good feelings.

33:15Council, and pushing this bill

33:16forward is good step towards

33:19that direction.

33:19>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

33:20you so much. Members

33:20questions?

33:22Thank you.

33:24Anyone else before we go to

33:25remote testifiers?

33:27Please proceed.

33:29>>Testifier: hi.

33:31Wesley Keating resident

33:32Kapolei.

33:33I'm here in support of ret

33:35returning the lands to people

33:38of Hawaii.

33:40I wanted to just bring up

33:41brief ali'i have had the

33:43opportunity to brief ali'i

33:44have the opportunity to do

33:45some Trump administration work

33:47with the Hawaiian Kingdom --

33:49restoration work with the

33:51Hawaiian Kingdom and I would

33:52like to see the entire Waipahu

33:54ahupuaa restored but also,

33:56this is entire ahupuaa.

33:59Entire island, so many lands

34:00on west side, where I'm closer

34:03to, that should be returned.

34:07The toolly majority of it.

34:08That should be returned.

34:10Actually.

34:10No longer in a place where we

34:12need to fight wars with

34:14hundreds of thousands of

34:14people, as we see every day

34:18today they are changing things

34:20and so all of this land should

34:23really Be given back.

34:25And I'm here in sup support of

34:27there piece but also, future

34:29pieces.

34:31>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

34:31you so much for taking the

34:32time to come today.

34:34Anybody else before we proceed

34:35to online testimony?

34:37Clerk any online testifiers?

34:39>>Council Clerk: Chair,

34:40we have a few standing by.

34:41>>Chair Kia'aina: first

34:43testifier is Dillon Armstrong.

34:45>>Council Clerk: Chair,

34:46testifier is not logged on.

34:47>>Chair Kia'aina: ca Karen O

34:50Mahoney.

34:54Is Karen there?

34:56>>Testifier: we can always

35:00come back.

35:02Next testifier is PUH o.

35:05NO Coleman.

35:06Good morning.

35:09PUHONU) coul back U come bac

35:19after.

35:19POHONO.

35:20>>Testifier: aloha mai Ka

35:21Kakou.

35:21Can you hear me?

35:22?

35:22>>Chair Kia'aina: question

35:25yes we can Hawaiian.

35:30(Hawaiian language).

35:32(Hawaiian language).

35:39Aloha chair and Council

35:41Councilmembers.

35:42PAH o.

35:43NO Coleman hales from the

35:45hail from the wall of Waimanalo.

35:48Founder organization and

35:50economic development committee

35:51chair for the Hawaiian he/him

35:53homes association.

35:55-- Hawaiian home as

35:56association.

35:57Kumu as well as grant designer

35:57for, i native Americans and

36:01philanthropy.

36:02Former hon youth commission

36:03but today, here on high my ow

36:05behalf Keopu after Waimanalo.

36:08KUPA I'm here todayer, in

36:09strong support of resolution

36:1326-236.

36:14El reason of this land could

36:17enable our community and city

36:19to not just recognizes the

36:22history but the truth of it.

36:24Additionally, this land I

36:26believe is important to our

36:28community and matter of our

36:29cultural, and spiritual

36:34security for current and

36:35future generation.

36:36Our community is on path of

36:37irannireturning our language, o

36:41land and culture.

36:43For u we must take this path.

36:46For us.

36:46It is time to take this path

36:48that returns our homelands to

36:50their people.

36:51And people to their homelands.

36:53Efforts like these is one that

36:56can rather than divide,

36:58control and exploit a

37:00community and people across

37:01the table, it can enable us to

37:04connect related and belong.

37:07Like to be this committee with

37:09some mana'o from our kupuna.

37:14Also reminds me of one of my

37:16uncles spoke earlier.

37:18Uncle KUIK.

37:19>>Vice Chair Waters:.

37:23(Hawaiian language).

37:23Foundation is first.

37:24And after, is the building.

37:26So mahalo nui kakou.

37:27Aloha.

37:29>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

37:30you so much.

37:32Next testifier is let's go

37:34back to Karen.

37:36Oh. Mahoney.

37:38Karen?

37:39>>Testifier: aloha.

37:40Thank you so much for this

37:41opportunity. And thank you

37:42for bringing this to the

37:44Council.

37:46And I Mr. Strong support of

37:47riewshing this land to the

37:48people returning this land to

37:49the people of Hawaii and

37:50testifying, right now sitting

37:53on a Pohaku in the ahupuaa of

37:56Waimanalo.

37:58We have, very close to the

38:01bellows Air Force base and in

38:03fact, as Brendan was saying

38:07earlier, all works together

38:08and piece that hasn't been

38:10working during the flooding is

38:11the piece at Bellows.

38:13Blockage at Bellows.

38:15And I really thought that once

38:17the problem was identified

38:19they would be likely, let's

38:21fix that and over the last six

38:23months, since two serious

38:25flooding from the Kona lows,

38:27that is not been my exper

38:29experience.

38:29And I agree also that the

38:31Hawaiian people are going to

38:32be the best stewards of this

38:34land for public safety, for

38:39the people as opposed to just

38:42for some recreational purposes

38:44which is what I understand is

38:45going on there now.

38:46Again, thank you for this

38:47opportunity and I appreciate

38:49all of this work.

38:50Mahalo.

38:51>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

38:52you Karen.

38:55RehabilISISs born.

39:00ISIS Osborne.

39:01Next testifier.

39:02>>Testifier: can you her

39:04hear.

39:05>>Chair Kia'aina: yes.

39:06>>Lacy: thank you for the

39:06opportunity to testifier.

39:10I'm a Ho'olau ULU community

39:13organizer with the Hawaii

39:14alliance for growsive action.

39:17Progressive action.

39:18The mission empowerment and

39:20change towards people over

39:21profit.

39:21In our view, work extents to

39:24effort due to military not

39:26only -- aina as also Oceania

39:30and -- future.

39:32Which is not match with the

39:36environment con testimony

39:38toTamayo ncontamination and gen.

39:47BroBrought up recent years and

39:49ordinances on the land.

39:51There's been reports of le

39:53lead --el.

39:54( audio distorting) other

39:56dangers.

39:57We support returning the land

39:58right away.

40:00Should not Be delay the return

40:01of the land to the proper

40:02stewards of land Hawaiian

40:04people.

40:05But we also urge the Council

40:07to have an eye for safety and

40:10make sure U.S. Maitl military d

40:13have responsibility for cl

40:14cleaning up land.

40:15Thank you.

40:15>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

40:15you.

40:16The next testifier is Kimmy

40:18own a Kane e'o Kim own a kane.

40:22>>Testifier: aloha ka kou.

40:24Good morning chair.

40:26KIMIONE coming through okay.

40:29>>Chair Kia'aina: yes.

40:29MahMahalo knew for the

40:30opportunity to testify.

40:32On this really important

40:33resolution.

40:34Mahalo nui.

40:35Several others KUP axe

40:38Waimanalo many serve as choir

40:41chair McNabb and rul

40:45rules helping to Negotiate

40:47with the military at Bellows.

40:50P KU P.

40:51UPUKU support the resolution.Th

40:56overdue and this action takes

40:57a lot of courage and so I want

40:59to commend you Councilmember

41:00for listening and hearing the

41:02community's feedback over ma

41:03many, many years public

41:05service and frustrations and

41:07taking that all in

41:08consideration.

41:08To address some of the core

41:10centered rooted things that

41:12we're here to talk about to

41:13today.

41:13And that is just the health

41:15and well well-being the future

41:18Waimanalo and beneficiaries

41:19and those that use that space.

41:21It is critical time for us

41:23when we talk about use of la

41:25land, and water and challenges

41:27that have been continual over

41:29many, many decades and

41:31generations over 100 years n

41:32now.

41:33Of separation from place and

41:34spirit and aina there is very

41:38important being in kupuna, to

41:40many of us, so this

41:43conversation while difficult

41:45in some capacities, is going

41:46to issuer in a time of urner

41:48in time of rehealing an

41:50remembering.

41:50You shall in a time.

41:51So sorely needed in the

41:52Hawaiian community parti

41:53particularly in Waimanalo and

41:54those that are impact by

41:55military training.

41:56In their communitieses as we

41:57well.

41:57Ushering in) really look

41:59forward to the continuing

42:01engagement, I am here to

42:02answer any questions if there

42:03are any and I want to mahalo

42:05you for taking the courage

42:06dacraig uscourageous s stand to

42:12forward.

42:13MahMahalo knew for the

42:15opportunity to tell tef.

42:15>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

42:16you members any questions?

42:17To testify, thank you.

42:19Next testifier is last three

42:21digits is 567.

42:23Online.

42:2456567.

42:28Clerk are they still on?

42:29>>Council Clerk: Chair,

42:30yes, chair.

42:35Could the number, phone number

42:36with the last three digits of

42:385667 please unmute and tes

42:40testify?

42:41567 jrk.

42:47>>Testifier: Jodie and I

42:48speaking today in my personal

42:50capacity as Hawaii resident.

42:52And employee of Bellows Air

42:55Force station.

42:56I understand respect purpose

42:57of resolution, 26-236.

43:01Deep connection of Native

43:03Hawaiian people have to these

43:04lands.

43:05I also ask that the future of

43:07the people would work there Be

43:09part of this conversation.

43:11Bellows is not just land on

43:12the map to many of us.

43:14It is where Hawaii residents

43:15earn a living.

43:17The support our children, bill

43:19and build a future f for our

43:20flames.

43:21Many local decrease families.

43:25Employees give yearns service

43:25there.

43:27Land riewrpd what does that

43:28tradition means for the

43:29Hawaiian and local families.

43:30Land returned?

43:33Employment depends on those

43:35rir do believe this has to be

43:36a either/or choice.

43:38Either return the land or

43:40works serious discussion, of

43:42returning land should include

43:43real plan for the works res

43:47the protections priority

43:48hiring training continued

43:49employment, and pathway for

43:51Hawaii families.

43:52To remain employed through any

43:54transition.

43:56Someone works Bellows I ask

43:58the Council to make sure

44:00employee and their families

44:00are consulted, leader and not

44:03left behind.

44:04Heard.

44:06Just, outcome, should honor

44:06the lands.

44:08The Native Hawaiian community

44:09and the working people of

44:11Hawaii rely on these jobs.

44:13Mahalo for the opportunity to

44:14testify.

44:16>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

44:19you so much for your moon a.

44:23Taken into account any

44:23dialogue. Thank you for you

44:25are you're take your time today.

44:27ThYour mana'o anyone else onlin

44:31would like to testify?

44:35>>Council Clerk: Chair,

44:35there are none.

44:36>>Chair Kia'aina: members

44:36we are.

44:36>> discussion.

44:38Any questions or discussion

44:39before I make my

44:39recommendation?

44:41Councilmember Tupola.

44:42>>Councilmember Tupola:

44:42mahalo carry.

44:43I want to thank testifiers for

44:44coming.

44:45Thrag you Brendan for hard

44:47work.

44:48Thank you for being here.

44:49Mahalo nui for the fight, o

44:51ongoing, and commitment all

44:52the aina days watching you

44:54guys, slowly making you guys

44:56progress and it's exceptional.

44:58Because it co comes from heart

45:00sphrt right place.

45:01So want you to know from the

45:03right place.

45:03Everyone Waianae see it is and

45:04we're with you on all of the

45:05initiatives that you guys ha

45:07have.

45:08II'm in support of CD1 and al

45:09also, taking the necessary

45:10steps to identify parcels to

45:12Be returned.

45:13Comanagement and then the end

45:14of leases.

45:16This isn't new ask.

45:17Waimanalo community has

45:18carried it for decades.

45:211996, Federal reported of

45:22decision identified 170 acres

45:24along Bellows southern

45:25boundary for return.

45:26And early 2,000, state was

45:28negonegotiating with the milita

45:29over the land.

45:31I am going to follow up with

45:32individual from the office of

45:34war to see where that

45:36conversation ended.

45:39In 2009 Air Force propropped

45:40to build more cabins expand.

45:42Waimanalo community pushed

45:43back against that.

45:45Neighborhood board stood

45:46against it.

45:472021 Legislature did another

45:48resolution asking for the

45:49return of Bellows so there's

45:51ababout been a a lot of

45:52community work kind of been

45:54slowly pushing towards this.

45:55I hope that there did can Be

45:56some conclusion ever conclusive.

45:59Bellows more complicated than

46:00maybe Makua in my district.

46:03I will say we finally felt

46:03some relief in May Pua from

46:072001 first got comanagement

46:08with Malama Makua and mili

46:10military, to 2004 stopped

46:12doing live fire to 2023, with

46:15they committed to never do

46:17live fire, to 2025, when the

46:20lease didn't get renewed.

46:22That was historic.

46:24Lease did not goa get renewed

46:25for Makua in that 700 plus

46:27acres that are not going to be

46:29renewed in 2029.

46:31That was a long, long journey.

46:33So it is going to take a lot

46:35of commitment.

46:36I do think that there's a

46:37roadmap.

46:38I think comanagement is always

46:39the first step.

46:40That's how we started off.

46:41I also have Lualualei.

46:44Poka'i Bay.

46:44I think for us, is a lot more

46:45relevant because city owns

46:47land underneath the Harvey

46:49house in Poka'i Bay.

46:51I ne neesht CD1 calls for con

46:53sill r cul tailings --

46:55consultation for Native

46:57Hawaiian community.

46:58Important to identify where

46:59lands go.

47:00Not clean-up just full

47:01environmental statement.

47:03Some. Lands Jason Woo we're

47:04talking about, some of the

47:05lands In my district hearly

47:07used can't know until impacts

47:09statement is done.

47:10What and if we can do, do

47:13enter land again.

47:14Most of all I want to get the

47:16community encouragement,

47:18continue to do your calls to

47:19action.

47:21Continue to stand strong and

47:22hui together.

47:23Even the Wahine that was

47:24talking earlier that works on

47:25the base.

47:27I think there so many

47:28productive conversations and

47:29good spirits and good

47:30intentions that are to Be had

47:32that I hope for the best

47:34outcome.

47:35So in sup Spoehr thank you.

47:37>>Chair Kia'aina: members

47:37-- in support. Any other

47:39discdiscussion?

47:40Waters thank you.

47:42I bul want to echo your second

47:45immen is im

47:48enson imminents.

47:49Thank you for s sentiments.

47:51Thank you for testifiers to

47:52come out.

47:53Really intel intelligent heart

47:54federal and reasonable.

47:57Heart federal and reaso felt an

48:01reasonable.

48:02Heartfelt and reasonable.

48:04Factually laying it out.

48:06Worth repeating some of the

48:07things in this, just briefly.

48:11The land use by fellows Air

48:13Force is no longer used for

48:14the military purposes which it

48:16was originally set aside.

48:19The Bellows Air Force station

48:20currently use the Bellows

48:22prfor regulars age a purposes b

48:26military personnel retes re ret

48:33Sichuan I will aian.

48:33On site commercial operation p

48:34shows and recreational

48:36activities.

48:37Retirees.

48:39Recreation.

48:40Public law 233 provides

48:41process for transfer of

48:43surplus property.

48:44To State of Hawaii, subject to

48:45the public land trust created

48:48by section 5F of ther

48:49admissions ct act use former

48:52military lands for example us

48:53Clively rehabilitation able

48:54purposes should trigger review

48:57of whether such lands are in

48:58fact surplused.

49:01-- exclusively no longer serve

49:03punches executive order is he

49:05ago side these purpose,

49:06executive order setting aside

49:07these lands it's for the

49:08United States.

49:10Specifically military training

49:11and readiness.

49:12The return of military lands

49:15that is no longer userd fed for

49:17military purposes is

49:18reasonable, and appropriate.

49:21No longer used, also desirable

49:23just, and in the public

49:25interest, that the ownership

49:26use and control of the lands

49:28occupied by the Bellows Air

49:31Force station, Be returned to

49:31the people of Hawaii.

49:34So wonderful, wonderful strong

49:36support and thank you for

49:37doing this.

49:39And I do want to thank you for

49:41bringing it up.

49:44Halekoa Heal Healton ho hotel.

49:47Obviously recreational use.

49:49Halekoa Hotel and not for,

49:51defense purposes.

49:53Working on one of these

49:56resolutions a similar to this.

49:59Little different circumstances

49:59but also, similar whether I

50:03-did similarly important.

50:05Thank you.

50:05>>Chair Kia'aina: in a did

50:06tuition addressing issue at

50:07hand I did, hope addressing In

50:10a In a in addition Representati

50:14for resusc respecs everyone are

50:16look into the lips and then.

50:19into history advocate.With the

50:24o a hard to say that, Halekoa

50:25hhard to say locals who live

50:27here have to make due, with

50:28very high kama'aina rates.

50:32When we are not allowed to go

50:34Halekoa Hotel.

50:36You also have museum Fort

50:38Derussy.

50:40I don't see a purpose of why

50:43those Mary L. lands there shou

50:45Be returned to the people of

50:46Hawaii.

50:48So, anyway, thank you to

50:50everyone from Waimanalo

50:52community and well as members

50:54for having discussion today.

50:55And I also want to thank

51:00Noelani from the department of

51:01war for being here.

51:02I h half battle is showing up.

51:05So can you imagine having this

51:08dialogue with no one in the

51:08room right now?

51:10You know how that makes us

51:11feel?

51:12And I need to let you know,

51:14while I understand I think I

51:18don't need to give a r

51:20recitation of all of our

51:22patience and understanding of

51:23the importance of Hawaii, for

51:27U.S. national security pur

51:28purposes, in the region, you

51:29know we know that.

51:30Right?

51:33But you can't Be tone did he

51:34deaf. So the establishment of

51:39full-blown golf range at Air

51:42Force Bellows station bragging

51:46but have this panoramic view

51:47of hidden golf balls mauka, is

51:51tone deaf.

51:52Actually, that should stop

51:54immediately.

51:55As we move forward on a

51:57constructive dialogue, you can

52:00call it whatever you want, I

52:02didn't talk a lot about

52:03reconciliation today.

52:05But I just need to repeat that

52:07reconciliation is ever evo

52:09evolving process.

52:10Between the U.S. government

52:11and Native Hawaiian people.

52:13And I feel that returning

52:14Bellows is small gesture as

52:16part of that dialogue.

52:19Chair recommends that

52:20resolution 26-236 Be amended

52:23to handcarried CD1.

52:25Any discussion?

52:26Any objections or reserv

52:28reservations?

52:29Hearing none.

52:30Resolution has been amended to

52:30a CD1.

52:32Carry then recommends that

52:33resolution 26-236 C CD1 1 Be

52:37reported out for adoption.

52:38Any discussion?

52:38Any objections or reserv

52:40reservations?

52:40Hearing none.

52:41So ordered.

52:43Tup>>Councilmember Okimoto:

52:45note my reservations.

52:46>>Chair Kia'aina: noting

52:46reservations of Councilmember

52:47Okimoto.

52:53The hearing the objections, --

52:57I mean.

52:59Of the reservations so ord

53:01ordered.

53:01Is that correct?

53:03Yeah.

53:04Thank you.

53:06Thank you Waimanalo.

53:10Moving to agenda item number

53:132.

53:13For action resolution 26-218.

53:16Resolution grants special

53:17management area major permit

53:19to the Smith trust for

53:21proposed development on pro

53:23proprongs approximately 14,269

53:26foot shoreline lot zoned R10

53:28residential district located

53:3247-347 Lulani Street in

53:32Kaneohe.

53:34Posted on the agenda CD1

53:36version the resolution.

53:37Which I submitted.

53:38For your information, summary

53:39of the amendment is listed on

53:40the agenda.

53:43Will Be proposing verbal

53:43amendment to the posted CD1 to

53:45revise condition B2, regarding

53:48landownerred acknowledgment t

53:50toes retain first sentence but

53:51delete the last two sentence.

53:53Project site is mauka of

53:54Kamehameha highway.

53:56So it is not physical

53:57shoreline lot.

53:58That is adjacent to the ocean,

54:00but it is technically cons

54:02considered shoreline lot

54:03because portions of zoning lot

54:04are within 130 feet in land of

54:07of the preAssumed shoreline.

54:09Project site is not located in

54:10he can to the ocean, and next

54:12to the ocean not anticipated

54:14to Be impacted coastal ero

54:16erosion.

54:173.2 feet of sea level rise by

54:18the year 2100, the proposed

54:20CD1 version of the resolution

54:22removes several conditions

54:23that are meant to address

54:24physical shoreline lots, but

54:26are not pediatriccable to K

54:28technical shoreline lot is not

54:29adjacent to ocean and do not

54:31have a sandy deech fr front.

54:33Not applicable.

54:34Joining us chamber Laura IRS

54:37from white space architects.

54:39Providing brief presentation.

54:41For your information are, it

54:42is available online as

54:44miscellaneous communication

54:46446, 2026.

54:48San by bSandy Beach front.

54:51>>Testifier: good morning.

54:53Ambassador morning committee

54:54members.

54:55Good morning committees.

54:57I am principal and co-owner of

54:59white space AR ARC architects

55:02here today to present the 4

55:0747-347 Lulani Street resi

55:09residence.

55:13The property currently has an

55:16existing residence located on

55:18it.

55:18The existing residence is

55:20approximately 2800 square fe

55:23feet.

55:24Single family detaxed home

55:25with three bedrooms and three

55:26bathrooms.

55:27Built in 1962.

55:32The existing, proposed

55:35residence will be sitting in

55:36similar footprint or location

55:38to the existing residence.

55:40Little small here.

55:42But the sites has, house is

55:46located quite close close to

55:49Lulani Street and well behind

55:51or outside of the 130 food the

55:56SMA setback.

55:56It is also located quite well

56:00above any sort of as far as

56:04kind of in section or sea li

56:06line, sea kind of will he have

56:07rise.

56:09130-foot setback section on

56:10the bottom shows a little bit

56:11of context on the far, far

56:14right is would be the makai or

56:17ocean side.

56:19Kamehameha highway in between,

56:20and then the site for Lulani

56:24Street to the left.

56:25So the house is located

56:27proposed house is to Be loc

56:28located quite close to the

56:29street.

56:32We have moved it back from the

56:33street slightly to allow for

56:36required off-street parking

56:37and driveway.

56:39And due to the steepness of

56:40the lot, siting home further

56:44back has giving us the

56:46opportunity to have a small

56:49amount of space in the lower

56:50level which is the third le

56:53level.

56:53These are some sections,

56:55elevations kind of showing the

56:57location, top elevation, the

56:59far left is the street side.

57:02Driveway, garage, and then

57:05three story kind of proposed

57:07home adjacent to it.

57:12Existing home that exists

57:13there, there was significant

57:14settling and water intrusion

57:16issues.

57:17Because of these factors, and

57:19age of the use u house

57:20determined that replacing home

57:22was the most prudent action.

57:26The existing home presents

57:28single story home from Lulani

57:29Street.

57:31Which is similar to how it

57:32does today. no replaces home th

57:37currently having issues with

57:38settling and that kind of

57:40thing.

57:42So thank you for your time.

57:44>>Chair Kia'aina: thank

57:54you members, new questions for

57:55miss IRES.

57:57Councilmember Tupola.

57:57>>Councilmember Tupola:

57:58aloha.

57:59Thank you for being here.

57:59Question about just erosion.

58:02I know that's kind of on a

58:02slope.

58:03Are you guys doing retaining

58:05walls or how are you guys

58:05going to kind of mitigate for

58:07that that is.

58:10>>Testifier: reading ret

58:12retaining walls an adding

58:14retain walls developing st

58:16stormwater ma management system.

58:18Currently the no on the no o in.

58:23Magma water down from the site

58:24and as as well water coming fr

58:27roof and structure itself.

58:29Fiewp more water that runs the

58:30more land washes away.

58:32>>Testifier: exactly.

58:33>>Councilmember Tupola:

58:33make sure you get that planned

58:34good. Does look like it's on

58:36a steep incline.

58:37>>Testifier: very steep

58:38scslope.

58:40>>Councilmember Tupola:

58:41thank you.

58:41>>Chair Kia'aina: any

58:42questioner questions?

58:42Thank you so much for the

58:43presentation.

58:44>>Testifier: you're welcome.

58:45>>Chair Kia'aina: before I

58:46call up administration take

58:47public testimony.

58:47Proceeding first with

58:49in-person testimony.

58:50Clerk any In person testi

58:53testifiers?

58:53>>Council Clerk: Chair,

58:53there are none.

58:54>>Chair Kia'aina: is there

58:55anyone standing by online?

58:57>>Council Clerk: Chair,

58:58there are none.

58:58>>Chair Kia'aina: for the

58:59administration?

59:03>>Testifier: q good morning

59:06chair Kia'Aina v vice Chair

59:07Waters.

59:08Elizabeth Kroeger Depa Departme

59:10of planning and permitting.

59:11We support this project and we

59:11support this CD1 as further

59:13verbally amended.

59:16We have staff here available

59:16for questions if you have any.

59:19>>Chair Kia'aina: any

59:20questions?

59:22Are therefully, any discussion

59:25before I make my

59:26recommendation?

59:27Chair recommends that

59:28resolution 26-218 Be amend to

59:30the posted CD1 as further

59:32amended.

59:33As we discussed to revised

59:34condition B2, first sentence,

59:38delete the last two sentences.

59:39Any discussion?

59:40Any objections?

59:41Or reservations?

59:42Hearing none.

59:44Resolution has been amended to

59:45a CD1.

59:45Chair then recommend that is

59:47resolution 26-218 CD1 Be

59:50reported out for adoption.

59:51Any discussion?

59:52Any objections or reserv

59:54reservations?

59:54Hearing none so ordered.

59:56Moving to agenda item number

59:583.

59:58For action.