2026-09-24 - International & Legal Affairs

00:30UNTIUNTIL

00:41RESTAB,

01:10R

02:47>>Chair Nishimoto: CALLING

02:52TO ORDER COMMITTEE ON

02:53INTERNATIONAL LEGAL AFFAIRS.

02:57ER ACHE TO WELCOME MEMBERS

02:57TUBING R TULBA, WATERS,

02:59CORDERO, TUPOLA AND KIA'AINA.

03:05OTHER MEMBERS ARE EXCUSED.

03:07LIKE TO WELCOME PEOPLE AROUND

03:10ROOM.

03:12I GOT IT.

03:13PURSUANT O SECTION THE 92-3.7,

03:18HAWAII REVISED STATUTES

03:18MEETING WILL CONDUCTED AS

03:19REMOTE MEETING BY INTERACTIVE

03:21CONFERENCE TECHNOLOGY WITH THE

03:25FOLLOWING PROCEDURES IN EFFECT

03:26FOR THE MEETING.

03:26MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE

03:27ALLOWED TO PROVIDE ORAL

03:31TESTIMONY ON ALL ITEMS ON THE

03:32AGENDA IN PERSON IN THE

03:33COUNCIL CHAMBER AND REMOTELY

03:34WHEN EACH AGENDA ITEM IS TAKEN

03:37UP.

03:40AS AS BOTH ENGLISH AND

03:40HAWAIIAN ARE OFFICIAL

03:41LANGUAGES OF THE STATE OF

03:41HAWAII, PURSUANT TO ARTICLE

03:4215, SECTION 4 OF THE HAWAII

03:44STATE CONSTITUTION, AND

03:46SECTION 1-13 OF THE HAWAII

03:49REVISED STATUTES, MEMBERS FOR

03:50THE PUBLIC MAY TESTIFY IN

03:51EITHER LANGUAGE.

03:53FOR ORAL TESTIMONIES OFFERED

03:56IN OLELO HAWAII, ADDITIONAL

03:57TIME AS MAY BE NECESSARY WILL

03:59BE ALLOWED FOR THE TESTIFIER

04:00TO PROVIDE ENGLISH TRANSLATION

04:04OF THEIR TESTIMONY.

04:04BEFORE TESTIFYING, EACH PERSON

04:06SHALL STATE THEIR NAME.

04:08SPEAKER MAY NOT HAVE ANYONE

04:09ELSE READ THEIR STATEMENT, AND

04:12IS LIMITED TO A ONE-MINUTE

04:13PRESENTATION ON EACH ITEM.

04:15ALL PERSONS REARED TO TESTIFY

04:21IN PERSON CALLED UPON FIRST.

04:21WHEN THE TIMER GOES OFF,

04:22PLEASE CONCLUDE YOUR REMARKS

04:25PROMPTLY.

04:26PERSON IS NOT REGISTERED WILL

04:26BE GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO

04:27TESTIFY FOLLOWING THE

04:31REGISTERED TESTIFIERS.

04:32ONCE IN-PERSON TESTIMONY IS

04:33CONCLUDED PROCEED TO REMOTE

04:35TESTIMONY.

04:36ALL PERSONS REGISTERED TO

04:40TESTIFY REMOTELY BY VIDEO

04:40CONFERENCE OR TELEPHONE ONLY

04:41WILL BE THEN BE CALLED.

04:42WHETHER YOUR NAME IS TODDLER

04:42CASE PLAN FOR YOUR SCREEN AN

04:46ACT IS INNOVATE AUDIOFEED WHEN

04:47WHEELING HOSPITALLED NAME IS

04:48CALLED.

04:48PERSONS BY TELEPHONE ONLY

04:49ONLY, I WILL I'D SPHIE YOU BY

04:52THE LAST THREE DIGITS OF YOUR

04:53PHONE NUMBER.

04:54WHEN YOUR NUMBER IS CALLED

04:55PLEASE US WILL EN TO FOR THE

04:58PROMPT TO UNPIEWT AND PRESS

04:59STAR 6.

05:01WHEN I CALL FOR ANYONE ELSE

05:02STANDING BY MOTLEY PLEASE

05:06UTILIZED ZOOM RAISED HAND

05:08BUTTON INDICATED YOUR DESIRE

05:10TO SPEAK. TELEPHONE ONLY

05:13ONLY, PLEASE PRESS STAR 9 TO

05:13INNED CAUGHT YOUR TO SPEAK.

05:14SOME FRIENDLY REMINDERS AND

05:15TIPS.

05:15>> INDICATE YOUR DESIRE TO

05:19SPEAK.

05:19VIDEO CONFERENCE FROM QUIET

05:20LOCATION IF POSSIBLE.

05:20IF YOU ARE ALSO WATCHING

05:21PROCEEDINGS ON OLELO, PLEASE

05:24POLLUTE YOUR TELEVISION

05:24WHETHER YOU ARE CALLED TO

05:25TESTIFY.

05:26WHEN THE TIMER ON SCREEN

05:26REACHES ZERO, PLEASE CONCLUDE

05:30YOUR REMARKS PROMPTLY.

05:31HRS SECTION 92-3.7, REQUIRES

05:33ALL VOTES PROMOTE MEETINGS

05:37CONDUCTED BY ROLL CALL UNLESS

05:38UNANIMOUS.

05:38I WILL CALL FOR OBJECTIONS.

05:39IF THERE ARE ANY, I WILL CALL

05:43FOR ROLL CALL VOTE.

05:43WRITTEN TESTIMONIES INCLUDING

05:44TESTIFIER'S ADDRESS, EMAIL

05:45ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER WILL

05:49BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AS

05:50DESCRIBED ON THE POSTED

05:50AGENDA.

05:54A COURTESY PLEASE TURN OFF ALL

05:54CELL PHONES.

05:55FOR THE DURATION OF THE

05:58MEETING.

06:01MOVING TO JND ITEM NUMBER 1.

06:03S ARE RESOLUTION 26-196.

06:10FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF CARY

06:11OKIMOTO.

06:11IS THE A POINTEE HERE?

06:16A PO>>Testifier: GOOD AFTERNOON.

06:23I'M CARY OKIMOTO.

06:23I AM RETIRED HPD AND I CAME

06:26HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

06:28YOU FOLKS MIGHT HAVE.

06:33MY APPOINTMENT.

06:34THANK YOU.

06:35IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS,

06:36HE'LL OKAY.

06:38>>Vice Chair Tupola:

06:41>>Councilmember Tupola: NO

06:42QUESTIONS WAYnd TO SAY

06:42THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE.

06:43I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE KNOWS

06:43BUT HE ACT CHIEF OF POLICE AND

06:46WE JUST REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

06:46WHEN I SAW YOUR NAME COMP U NO

06:49WAY.

06:49THANK YOU SO MUCH.

06:52THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

06:53THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO

06:53SERVE.

06:53OUR COMMUNITY.

06:56>>Testifier: YEAR WELCOME.

06:57WHEN IT OPPORTUNITY CAME UP,

06:58FRIEND OF MINE ASKED ME FOR I

06:59WANTED TO TO PARTICIPATE AND I

07:03SAID OKAY.

07:04>>Councilmember Tupola:

07:04YEAH.

07:04YOU'RE LIKE A LEGEND TO ME.

07:05THANK YOU.

07:05THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

07:08>>Testifier: YOU'RE WELCOME.

07:09>>Chair Nishimoto: ANYONE

07:09ELSE?

07:10THANK YOU.

07:12I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR

07:16MEETING UP WITH ME.

07:17>>Councilmember Tulba:

07:17WBRINGING WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE.

07:18TRY TO CON VUNS THEM TO BE ON

07:21THE POLICE COMMISSION BUT

07:21CONVINCE HIM, ANY WAY WEALTH

07:23AND KNOWLEDGE LOOK FORWARD TO

07:24SEEING WHAT YOU DO.

07:30THANK YOU.

07:30>>Chair Nishimoto:

07:30>>Chair Nishimoto: ANYONE

07:31ELSE?

07:31THANK YOU.

07:32ANYONE IN THE CHAMBER WANTING

07:34TO TESTIFY PLEASE COME

07:37FORWARD.

07:38NOW.

07:38CHIEF OF STAFF.

07:39SU GO.

07:40GO.

07:40, NO?

07:40OKAY.

07:41SU GO.

07:44G ANY REMOTE TVRs?

07:45>>Council Clerk: CHAIR,

07:46THERE ARE NONE.

07:46>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

07:47YOU.

07:48REMOTE TESTIFIERS, ANY

07:49QUESTIONS?

07:52SEEING NONE.

07:52CHAIRING RESOLUTION 26-196 BE

07:56BEES PAD UNAMEND.

08:00WRS OR NOs.

08:00PASSED UNMENDED. SEEING NONE

08:01THANK YOU.

08:02MOVING AGENDA ITEM 2.

08:07RESOLUTION 26-204.

08:09APPOINT DOMINEQUE BONIFACIO TO

08:13THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMISSION.

08:14IS HE HERE?

08:15OKAY.

08:15IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW

08:16WORDS PLEASE.

08:19>>Testifier: HI.

08:25ALOHA.

08:26I HAVE SOME PREPARE.

08:28DOMINEQUE BONIFACIO.

08:29I AM A PROUD SON OF OAHU.

08:32EL MEMBER OF WAIPAHU

08:35NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD.

08:35FORMER VICE CHAIR OF HONOLULU

08:36YOUTH COMMISSION.

08:37GRATEFUL FOR THIS IT CHADGES

08:38TO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

08:42CHANCE TO SERVE P NEIGHBORHOOD

08:44COMMISSION.

08:44THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT

08:45QUO GO ON IN OUR COMMUNITYMENT

08:49HOUSING CAN'T AFFORD AND

08:50INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HASN'T

08:50KEPT PACE WITH GROWTHSMENT

08:51STORMS AND LANDFILLS THAT TEST

08:53OUR GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE.

08:58NEIGHBORS FEEL THESE THINGS

08:58FIRST AND QUESTION IS ALWAYS

08:59WHERE THEY CAN GO TO BE HEARD.

09:01FOR THOUSAND RE DENSE ACROSS

09:04OUR ISLAND, REST DENNIS,

09:05ANSWER IS NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD.

09:06OAHU BOARDS, LET PEOPLE SPEAK

09:07THEIR OWN VOICE.

09:09AND PASS RESOLUTIONS THAT

09:12RESEARCHER THEIR ELECTED

09:14OFFICIALS.

09:15COMMISSION JOB NEIGHBORHOOD

09:15COMMISSION IS TO SAFEGUARD

09:17THAT STRUCTURE.

09:20TO SET FREE ELECTION RULES

09:21REVIEW AND UPDATE NEIGHBORHOOD

09:22PLAN AND MAKE SURE BOARDS ARE

09:27ACCESSIBLE AND REPRESENTATIVE

09:27OF THE NEIGHBORS THEY SERVE.

09:29ON YOUTH COMMISSION I PREPARED

09:31RESOLUTION.

09:32TESTIFIED ON IT.

09:35TAUGHT ME A LOT.

09:36YOUNG PEOPLE GET SEAT AT THE

09:38TABLE BRING A ACHIEVABLE

09:39SOLUTIONS.

09:43SO IF CONFIRMED, I WILL DO MY

09:43BEST TO GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD

09:44COMMISSION OUT IN THE

09:46COMMUNITY MORE.

09:49BOARDS REACH PEOPLE TO HELP

09:50BOARDS REACH PEOPLE WHO DON'T

09:52GET TO PARTICIPATE ESPECIALLY

09:53THAT MUCH YOUNGER R RESIDENTS

09:57FAST GROWING AREA.

09:58MOST IMPORTANTLY LISTEN TO THE

10:01COMMUNITY.

10:01COUNCILMEMBER TULBA AND CHAIR

10:04WATERS, COUNCIL CHAIR WATERS,

10:05MAHALO FOR YOUR TRUST AND

10:07SUPPORT.

10:08AN MAHALO NUI LOA FOR YOUR TIME

10:13TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

10:14THANK YOU.

10:15EAR FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

10:17>>Chair Nishimoto: HERE

10:19FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

10:20>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

10:20YOU.

10:21ANY QUESTIONS MEMBERS?

10:23SEEING NONE.

10:23ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WE'VING

10:27TO TESTIFY SN PLEASE COME

10:27FORD.

10:28SEEING NONE.

10:29ARE THERE ANY REMOTE

10:31TESTIFIERS?

10:32>>Council Clerk: CHAIR,

10:33TRR NONE.

10:35>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

10:35YOU.

10:35MEMBERS, OKAY.

10:37WE'LL GO REPRESENTATIVE ARE

10:37TULBA AND THEN CORDERO.

10:40>>Councilmember Tulba:

10:40THANK YOU.

10:43IN SUPPORT.

10:43DOMINIC HAS BEEN GREAT YOUTH

10:44COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT 9.

10:46AND LOOKING FOR ANOTHER

10:47OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

10:51AND JUMP THAT OPPORTUNITY TO

10:52SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD

10:52COMMISSION.

10:52SO I'M EXCITED WHEN YOUNG

10:54PEOPLE STEP UP WILLING TO

10:58SERVE.

10:58THANK YOU DOMINIC.

10:59>>Chair Nishimoto: STHAPG

10:59YOU.

11:00>>Councilmember Cordero:

11:00THANK YOU.

11:01I WANT TO ECHO THANK YOU.

11:03OKAY COUNCILMEMBER TULBA'S

11:06REMARKS ABOUT, HOPEFULLY OUR

11:08APPOINTEE DOMINEQUE BONIFACIO

11:09TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD

11:10COMMISSION OFFICE AND NOT ONLY

11:12DID HE SERVE ON YOUTH

11:15COMMISSION TOOK IT UPON HIM

11:16SEHIMSELF MEET WITHOTHER MEMBERD

11:21COUNCILMEMBERS TO HE WILL

11:22ROARY HEAR HOW WE CAN GET MORE

11:23VOICES TO THE DIFFERENT

11:27COMMISSIONS BUT ESPECIALLY

11:27BACK TO THE YOUTH COMMISSION.

11:28I WANT TO MAHALO MR. DOMINEQUE

11:31BONIFACIO FOR ALWAYS SEEKING

11:32WAYS TO, CONNECT THE COMMUNITY

11:36TO THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY AS

11:37A WHOLE.

11:37MAHALO CHAIR NISHIMOTO.

11:38>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

11:39YOU MEMBERS ANYONE ELSE?

11:43CHAIR'S RECOMMENDATION PASS

11:45RESOLUTION 26-204.

11:47UNAMENDED.

11:50WRS OR NO A SICKNESS SEEING

11:51NONE.

11:51THANK YOU.

11:51SCENTED ITEM NUMBER 3.

11:55WRS AIR NOs, 26-44.

11:56DO WE HAVE GERALD DEGUZM A.

12:02N HERE FROM THE LIQUOR

12:04COMMISSION?

12:07DEGUZMAN FROM THE LIQUOR

12:08COMMISSION?

12:14>>Testifier: GOOD AFTERNOON

12:15AND ALOHA KAKAAKO CHAIR

12:15NISHIMOTO.

12:16VICE CHAIR TUPOLA AND

12:18COUNCILMEMBERS.

12:23ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES

12:23OFFICER FOR LIQUOR ECONOMICS

12:24E'O COMMISSION.

12:24WITH ME IS ANNA SUTHERLAND,

12:25OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT ANALYST

12:29ON OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.

12:30THANK YOU FOR YOUR

12:31CONSIDERATION OF COMMISSION'S

12:36RESOLUTION 26-144.

12:39THE PURPOSE OF THIS RESOLUTION

12:40IS TO REVISES OUR CURRENT

12:41AGENCY SPECIFIC ROW TENSION

12:42SCHEDULE.

12:43RETENTION SE SCHEDULE APPROVED

12:46RESOLUTION 22-168.

12:47TO INCLUDE THE RETENTION

12:48PERIOD OF FORMAL REQUESTS, FOR

12:51GOVERNMENT INFORMATION

12:52OTHERWISE KNOWN AS UIP

12:55REQUEST, THIS RESOLUTION ALSO

12:59SEEKS TO ESTABLISH RETEXT

12:59PERIODS FOR BODY-WORN CAMERA

13:01VIDEO, WHICH IS NEW TECHNOLOGY

13:02THAT LIQUOR COMMISSION

13:07RECENTLY IMPLEMENTED TOWARDS

13:07ENFORCEMENT OF LIQUOR LAWS OF

13:10HAWAII RULES OF THE LIQUOR

13:11COMMISSION.

13:11THESE PROPOSED RETENTION

13:17REPEEREDS LISTRECORD NUMBERS 18.

13:18IN THE RESO 26- 44.

13:25PROPOSED PERIODS HAPPY TO

13:25DREAFNS DRAINS ANY QUESTIONS

13:26COMMENTS OR CONCERNS YOU MAY

13:27HAVE.

13:27THANK YOU. HAPPY TO ADDRESS.

13:30>>Chair Nishimoto: MEMBERS

13:31QUESTIONS?

13:31, SEEING KNOWLEDGE.

13:32THANK YOU.

13:32ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCES

13:33WISHING TO TESTIFY?

13:36PLEASE COME FORWARD.

13:37SEEING NONE.

13:37ARE THERE ANY RE REMOTE

13:40TESTIFIERS.

13:41>>Council Clerk: CHAIR,

13:41THERE ARE NONE.

13:44>>Chair Nishimoto: MEMBERS

13:44ANY FINAL THOUGHTS FOR THIS IS

13:45THIS SEEING FOR NONE

13:48RECOMMENDATION IS TO PASS

13:53RESOLUTION 26-144 UNAMENDED.

13:53ANY WRS OR NOs?

13:54SEEING NONE.

13:55THANK YOU.

14:02OKAY.

14:03AGENDA ITEM 4 RESOLUTION

14:0426-102.

14:04DO WE HAVE JENNIFER SANTOS?

14:10EL GOOD AFTERNOON.

14:11>>Testifier:

14:12(HAWAIIAN LANGUAGE).

14:13COMMITTEE CHAIR, NISHIMOTO,

14:15VICE CHAIR TUPOLA, MEMBERS OF

14:16THE COUNCIL.

14:19JENNIFER SANTOS.

14:22EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE

14:23MAYOR'S OFFICE OF CULTURE AND

14:23ARTS.

14:24POOL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO

14:25SPEAK ON RESOLUTION 26-201.

14:29MAHALO.

14:29INITIATING AMENDMENTS TO THE

14:29REVISED CHARTER CITY AND

14:32CONNEDCITY& COUNTY OF HONOLULU R

14:34RELATED TO MAYOR'S OFFICE WAS

14:34CULTURE AND THE ARTS.

14:36ALSO KNOWN AS MOCA.

14:39CURRENTLY, FOR THE PAST 55

14:40YEARS, MOCA HAS EXISTED AS A

14:44PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY

14:47CARTER CHARTER OBJECTIVE OF

14:48THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS

14:49FALSE MISSILE ALERT AMICABLY

14:50ABOUT ORGANIZATIONAL

14:51POSITIONING -- FUNDAMENTALLY,

14:54IT FORMALLY ESTABLISHING MOCA

14:55AS DISTINCT DEPARTMENT WITHIN

14:55THE OFFICE.

14:57OF MAYOR.

15:00ADMINISTRATIVELY MANAGED

15:01THROUGH THE MANAGING

15:01DIRECTOR'S OFFICE.

15:02IT IS NOT A CHANGE FOR MOCA'S

15:03PIGS.

15:06MISSION PROGRAMS O O.E.R.

15:07INFORM SCOPE OR WORK OF

15:07SERVICES WHEN WE WE PROVIDE.

15:11POTENTIAL IMPACT THE FORMALLY

15:12ESTABLISHED SAM MOKU A

15:12DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY

15:16ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE ARE

15:17FAR REACHING.

15:17BUT AT MINIMUM, AMENDMENT

15:18WOULD PROVIDE GREATER ADVICE

15:22VISIBILITY FOUNDATION

15:23STABILITY AND ONGOING

15:23CONTINUITY FOR MOCA CROSS

15:25FUTURE ADMINISTRATIONS.

15:27KAILUA ALSO AFFIRMING CITY'S

15:30EDGE DURING COMMITMENTS OF

15:31CULTURE -- WHILE ALSO L ARTS

15:31AND COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS

15:32THAT HELP CONTRIBUTED TO

15:37OAHU'S VIBRANT CULTURAL

15:38LANDSCAPE.

15:40(HAWAIIAN LANGUAGE).

15:40FOR YOUR TIME CONSIDERATION

15:41AND ATTENTION.

15:44TO THIS REQUEST.

15:45WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE

15:45OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FACE

15:47TESTIMONY AND FOR THE

15:50COMMUNITY VOICES ALSO WEIGH IN

15:51ENSURING THEIR SUPPORT THROUGH

15:52WRITTEN TESTIMONY HAPPY TO

15:53ANSWER QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE

15:57CLARIFICATION THAT MAY BE

15:58HELPFUL.

16:00>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

16:00YOU. ANY QUESTIONS MEMBERS?

16:04REP TUPOLA AND THEN.

16:04>>Councilmember Tupola:

16:05QUICK QUESTION.

16:05I GUESS WITH THE BALLOT

16:07QUESTION NUMBER 3, TRYING TO

16:08ESTABLISH OFFICE OF OEV

16:12RESOURCES CULTURAL STEWARDSHIP

16:12ON THE BALLOT THIS YEAR, LIKE

16:13IN A FEW WEEKS, HOW IS THIS

16:18DIFFERENT OR THE SAME IT THAN

16:18WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO DO

16:19WITH THIS RESOLUTION?

16:21>>Testifier: SO THIS REQUEST

16:25DIDN'T CHANGE ANY OF OUR

16:26SCOPE.

16:26SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO EXPAND

16:27INTO ANY OF THE PROPOSED

16:30RESPONSIBILITIES OR KULEANA

16:34THAT'S OEV RESOURCES TEAM

16:34WOULD COVER.

16:35THIS IS REALLY JUST

16:38RECOGNITION OF MOCA WITH

16:41WITHIN CITY CARTER MOVING FROM

16:42PROGRAM TO DEPARTMENT.

16:46SO I AM AWARE OF THE OTHER

16:48REQUEST ON THE BALANCE ON THE

16:51AND WE ARE ACTUALLY IN TALKS

16:52WITH THE PEOPLE -- BALLOT

16:53WRITTEN AND LOOKING TO FURTHER

16:54THAT AND, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE

16:58THAT THERE IS A HEALTHY AMOUNT

17:00OF OVERLAP BUT THAT WE ARE

17:03VERY FOCUSED ON THE DIFFERENT

17:07DIFFERENCES THAT THE BROCK

17:07OSWEILER WOULD PROVIDE.

17:08THAT IS SPECIFIC TO OEV

17:11RESOURCES.

17:12THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THE SCOPE

17:12FOR MOCA AT ALL.

17:13THAT OFFICE WOULD PROVIDE.

17:14IN THE WORK WE DO TODAY TUPOLA

17:18I'M CLEAR WHAT PROUDLY LOCAL

17:19MOKE IS TRYING TO DO BE MORE

17:19ESTABLISHED NOT A PROGRAM BUT

17:21AN OFFICE.

17:24BECAUSE, THIS IS ESTABLISHING

17:24AN OFFICE, I FEEL LIKE IT

17:27WOULD AB ALMOST THE SAME THING

17:28AS FAR AS OFFICE I BELIEVE

17:31RESOURCES WITH MOCA AS PART OF

17:32IT.

17:32BUT I GUESS YOU GUYS COULD

17:32FIGURE IT OUT.

17:35I JUST THINK THE TIMING IS

17:36INTERESTING.

17:36BECAUSE BALLOTS ARE ABOUT IT

17:37COME OUT.

17:37THIS IS GOING TO BE ON THERE.

17:40I GUESS I JUST DIDN'T KNOW

17:41WHERE ALL THE TIMING OF YOU

17:41GUYS PROPOSING THIS AT THIS

17:43TIME CAME ABOUT.

17:46>>Testifier: THE TIMING IS

17:47ACTUALLY COINCIDENCE SOMETHING

17:47THAT WE HAVE BEEN CIRCULATING

17:50THROUGH DIFFERENT ITERATIONS

17:52FOR ACTUALLY COURSE OF ALMOST

17:55A YEAR NOW.

17:56SO IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL FOR

17:58TIMING TO LAND THIS WAY.

18:01IT WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT

18:04WE PART OF OUR ASSESSMENT

18:06DURING TIME THAT THE ORIGINAL

18:10OFFERING FOR THE CHARTER

18:11INVITATIONS WAS OPEN.

18:11AND SO WE TOOK A DEEPER LOOK

18:12AT OUR POSITIONING AND DECIDED

18:16AS A OPPOSED TO TAKING A SEAT

18:17OF ONE OF THE SUBMISSIONS, WE

18:18WANT TO SEE IF WE COULD

18:22UTILIZE MAYOR'S DIRECTIVE AND

18:22TALK TO YOU FOLKS AS A WAY OF

18:23NOT TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY

18:25FROM ANOTHER IDEA TO BE

18:30PROPOSED.

18:30>>Councilmember Tupola:

18:30WITH THE CARTER COMMISSION WAS

18:31CONVENING DID YOU GUYS SUGGEST

18:32THAT YOU GUYS BE ONE OF THE

18:32CHARTER QUESTIONS AS PAO*S TO

18:36DO THIS OR TALK ABOUT IT OR

18:36FIVE O ON THIS OR NO SNIVMENT

18:37CHARTER COMMISSION.

18:41>>Testifier: NO, WE DID NOT.

18:41>>Councilmember Tupola:

18:42THANK YOU.

18:42>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

18:43YOU.

18:43REP.

18:43>>Councilmember Kia'aina:

18:43THANK YOU.

18:47THANK YOU DIRECTOR. YOU KNOW,

18:51WE MAY HAVE DISCUSSED THIS.

18:53BUT THAT WAS SEVERAL MONTHS

18:56AGO BECAUSE I WAS IN CONTACT

18:59WITH THE MANAGING DIRECTOR'S

19:00OFFICE AND THIS WAS DROPPED IN

19:01SEPTEMBER 1.

19:01SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT

19:05EITHER FROM YOU OR THE

19:05MANAGING DIRECTOR'S OFFICE, I

19:07WOULD HAVE I GUESS PREFERRED

19:10SOMEONE JUST IT SAY, HEY, JUST

19:14HEADS UP, THIS IS WHAT IS

19:14COMING DOWN.

19:15BECAUSE LET ME TELL YOU WHAT

19:19IS A LITTLE CONCERNING FOR ME

19:19AND VERBIAGE HERE.

19:20BECAUSE WHAT I WAS TOLD BY THE

19:22MANAGING DIRECTOR'S IS THAT

19:27NOTHING WILL CHANGE IT'S JUST

19:28THAT YOU ARE CLARIFYING YOUR

19:30AUTHORITY UNDER THE CHARTER.

19:31IS THAT CORRECT?

19:32>>Testifier: CORRECT.

19:33WE'RE JUST CONFIRMING.

19:36>>Councilmember Kia'aina:

19:37WAY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH

19:37THENMENT THIRD AND FOURTH

19:41WHEREAS CLAUSE.

19:41CLAUSES.

19:42IT SAYS TO REORG MOCA AS

19:44DISTINCT EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT

19:47IN ORDER O PROVIDE GREATER

19:51CHCHARITY EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT

19:55CABINET MEMBER.

19:56SO AND THEN THE FORTH WHEREAS

19:59CLAUSE SAYS, SUCH

20:00REORGANIZATION INTENDED TO

20:00CLARIFY ELEVATE THE ROLE OF

20:02THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AS

20:07ADMINISTRATIVE HEAD OF THE

20:08DEPARTMENT.

20:08LIKE A CABINET MEMBER.

20:09IS THAT THE INTENT OF THIS.

20:11>>Testifier: NO.

20:12SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT

20:15UP.

20:15COUNCILMEMBER.

20:16THE EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT IS

20:16ACTUALLY I WAS INFORMED A

20:20TYPO.

20:21IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING

20:24CORRECTED.

20:24IT SHOULD JUST BE DEPARTMENT

20:25NOT EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT.

20:26>>Councilmember Kia'aina:

20:27HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WORD

20:31DEPARTMENT.

20:31IT'S NOT A DEPARTMENT.

20:32IT'S AN OFFICE.

20:33IT'S MAYOR'S OFFICE CULTURE

20:35AND THE ARTS.

20:35CORRECT?

20:36>>Testifier: CORRECT. EVEN.

20:39>>Councilmember Kia'aina:

20:40IT'S NOT MAYOR'S DEPARTMENT OF

20:40CULTURE AND THE ARTS.

20:41>>Testifier: NO.

20:41IT WILL.

20:42>>Councilmember Kia'aina:

20:42I GUESS, SHOULD WE JUST IF YOU

20:43DON'T MIND, I MEAN, THERE'S NO

20:47RUSH FOR THIS.

20:47INIS IT OF US MAKING CHANGES

20:51NOW, INSTEAD I JUST FEEL THAT

20:55ARE ARE THAT VERBIAGEAL THE

20:56OTHER FOURTH VEER AJ, RATHER

20:56JUST DO IT RIGHT.

21:01VERBIAGE.

21:01DO IT RIGHT I HAVE SOME POUR

21:02QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY CHAIR.

21:02I SHOULD BE TALKING TO YOU.

21:05>>Chair Nishimoto: I'M

21:06AWARE OF THE TYPOS AT THAT SHE

21:07CALLS THEM. AND WE'RE GOING

21:09TO FIX IT.

21:14KIA'AINA CONE NOW OR LATER?

21:14>>Chair Nishimoto: IN MY

21:15RECOMMENDATION.

21:15KIA'AINA IPAD I'M SORRYISM WANO

21:20MAKE SURE BECAUSE THERE IS

21:20GOING TO BE A BIG DIFFERENCE

21:21IF THE TILE TITLE BECAUSE

21:26THAT'S ALL.

21:27THANK YOU I WANT TO MAKE SURE

21:28THAT WE'RE ACHIEVING

21:32OBJECTIVES BECAUSE IT ALSO

21:32DEALS WITH THE SALARY OF THE

21:33DEPARTMENT HEAD VERSUS

21:35DIRECTOR OF OFFICE IN THE

21:38MAYOR'S OFFICE.

21:39THANK YOU.

21:39>>Chair Nishimoto: I

21:39UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.

21:40I SAME CONCERNS.

21:42REP CORDERO.

21:43>>Councilmember Cordero:

21:44THANK YOU CHAIR NISHIMOTO.

21:47HI DIRECTOR.

21:47THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING

21:48HERE.

21:49AND FOR PRESENTING THIS.

21:54I DO HAVE SOME CLARIFYING

21:55QUESTIONS BECAUSE FIRST OFF IN

21:55RESPECT TO THE PROCESS, THIS

21:57WILL OU AUTOMAT DLI GOT CHARTER

22:01AND INVETTED OF VOTERS.

22:01CORRECT?

22:02AUTOMATICALLY,.

22:02>>Testifier:ER E'O I'M

22:06SORRY?

22:06OUGHT PATICALLY GET PUT INTO

22:07THE CHARTER IF PRO OFFED,

22:08WITH-PUT INTO THE CHARTER WITH

22:12OUR VOTES OR EVEN WITHOUT OUR

22:13VOTES, WITHIN 60 DAYS.

22:13IS THAT CORRECT IN.

22:17>>Testifier: SO THE WAY THIS

22:17IS BEING SUBMIT THE, IS BY WAY

22:19OF MAYOR'S DIRECTIVE.

22:20IF THE COUNCIL AND IF THE

22:23COMMIT KIA PROVES, THIN WE

22:24WILL NOT GO TO THE EXTINCT

22:26VOTE.

22:26NOT OBJECTANT BALLOT.

22:27REQUEST IS NOT TO BE ON THE

22:30BALLOT.

22:31NOT TO BE ON THE BALLOT.

22:32>>Councilmember Cordero:

22:32BROUGHT UP BY BOTH, COUNCIL

22:37KAUHALE U BRIAN KEAULANA

22:37BEFORE ME,.

22:38COUNCILMEMBERS ABOUT EVERY ME.

22:38VICE CHAIR TUPOLA AND FLOOR

22:41LEADER CONE KEEN, BUT I GUESS

22:42ALSO FURTHER LOOK AT AEL

22:43LEADER KIA'AINA, COORDINATING

22:46SHPD OWI ON THE BALLOT FOR

22:51QUESTION 3, WHO WILL I GUESS,

22:55REPORT TO EACH OTHER, TO

22:55COORDINATE ANY LACK OF

22:57DUPLICATIVE WORK?

22:59>>Testifier: WE ARE ALREADY

22:59IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING

23:03PLANNING FOR THOSE

23:04CONSIDERATIONS NOW.

23:05BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT

23:06IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE OUR

23:09TEAM IS VERY STRETCHED FOR

23:14CAPACITY. SO WE WANT TO MAKE

23:14SURE THAT THE TIME THAT WE'RE

23:15USING AND PARTNERSHIP THAT WE

23:19HAVE WITH OUR INT CITY THE

23:19DIDS ARE VERY INTENTIONAL.

23:20AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE

23:25WILL BE HANDHOLDING -- SAINT

23:26DEPARTMENTS WITH OTHER

23:27DEPARTMENTS SHOULD IT COME TO

23:29FRUITION.

23:32>>Councilmember Cordero: I

23:33UNDERSTAND WHILE THIS IS A

23:33MAYOR'S DIRECTIVE.

23:34IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT TO

23:35HAVE A A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME

23:37TO HAVE MORE PUBLIC PROCESS,

23:40YOU'LL THOUGH IT'S NOT THE

23:41SAME PUBLIC PROCESS THAT THE

23:42HONOLULU CHARTER HAD WITH THE

23:47OTHER COMARMTS GOING THROUGH

23:47THE PROCESS THROUGH NOW

23:50PIPOSSIBLEDISCUSSION POSSIBLE AS

23:55MAY NEED TO BE DISCUSSED MAY

23:57TIMINGLY FACTOR THAT YOU ARE

24:00CONSIDERING NOW?

24:01WHY IS THERE A TIMELINESS

24:01FACTOR HERE.

24:01>>Testifier: AGAIN TIMING IS

24:02ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE

24:06BEEN PROCESSING FOR QUITE A

24:07WHILE. FOR THE THOSE OF THE

24:09OF YOU WHO HAVE HAD QUARTER

24:14LIER SYNCHS WITH OUR OFFICE,

24:15IT'SING IS THAT HAS BEEN PART

24:15OF OUR AGENDA FOR THE LAST TWO

24:19QUARTERS.

24:20QUARTERLY SYNCHS POSSIBLY EVEN

24:21THREE AND APOLOGIES IF WE

24:23WEREN'T ABLE TO CONNECT IN

24:24MORE CONVENIENT T RECENT TIMES

24:28BEING THAT THE ITEM IS NOW

24:29HERE ON THE AGENDA.

24:30MORE RECENT TIMES.

24:34NOT SOMETHING SUDDEN.

24:35THERE WAS NO SORT OF CONTROL

24:35ON OUR SIDE AS FAR AS LIKE

24:37WITH WHEN IT WAS ABLE TO GO

24:41YOU THROUGH AND BE APPROVED

24:42FOR CONSIDERATION.

24:43AS FAR AS THE CHARTER VOTE,

24:45AND THE OTHER OFFICES, THERE

24:49IS NO COINCIDENCE WHATSOEVER

24:51IN HOW THIS IS NOW BEING

24:55PRESENTED.

24:56>>Councilmember Cordero: I

24:56UNDERSTAND.

24:57THINK TIMINGLINESS FACTOR GOES

24:57BACK DO I THINK MAYBE YOUR ROW

25:01RESPONSE TO DUPONT COMEUP

25:02QUESTION.

25:02WHAT THE TIMELINESS FACTOR ON

25:03YOUR MOCA PART?

25:05COMODGES COUNCILMEMBER

25:06TUPOLA'S QUESTION.

25:09PUSHING THIS FORWARD.

25:10AT THIS MOMENT.

25:10>>Testifier: SO THIS GOES

25:11BACK TO WHEN THE CHARTER REI

25:16REVIEW WAS HANING AND OPEN

25:17PERIOD WAS MADE AVAILABLE FOR

25:19MODIFICATION TO BE PROPOSED.

25:20REVIEW WAS HAPPENING.

25:23BEING THAT THAT WAS, I WAS

25:24MAYBE JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS

25:25IN ROLE AT THE TIME I WANTED

25:29TO LOOK AT OUR POSITIONING

25:29WITH THE CARTER.

25:30AND WITH SOME SUPPORT FROM MDO

25:35IT WAS WE REEL LISTED AT THAT

25:36MOCA IS ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED

25:37ONLY AS A PROGRAM.

25:42AND BECAUSE WE HAD SPENT A

25:43GOOD AMOUNT OF FIRST AND

25:44SECOND QUARTER'S

25:49STABILITYIZING MISSION AND

25:52VISION AND CHAIR THAT I WE

25:52HAVE BROUGHT BY WAY OF OUR

25:53STRATEGIC PLAN, AND OBJECTIVES

25:55AND KEY RAWLTS WE HAVE SET

25:59FORTH, KEY RESULTS WE THOUGHT

25:59IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY

26:00TO, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE

26:02REQUEST OF RECLASSIFYING MOCA

26:07AS OFFICE AS OPPOSED TO A

26:08PROGRAM.

26:12>>Councilmember Cordero: I

26:12UNDERSTAND.

26:12BUT FIRST JOINED, AND OF

26:17COURSE ESPECIALLY DURING YOUR

26:18FIRST BUDGET PROCESS, THIS WAS

26:18AROUND THE FIRST TIME THAT I,

26:20AROUND THE TIME THAT I STARTED

26:24SAYING IT WOULD BE WE SAW THAT

26:25SISTER CITY FUNCTIONS AND

26:26PROGRAMS WENT UNDER MOCA AND

26:28ESPECIALLY NEW UNDER MOCA.

26:32I I'VE SEEN IT OTHER OFFICE

26:33FUNCTIONS BEFORE.

26:35OUR PROGRAM PROGRAMMATIC

26:36FUNCTIONS AND I SAID THAT

26:41MAYBE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT

26:41REFOCUS IN THOSE AREAS TOO.

26:44BEING IT'S WITH MOCA AT THE

26:49MOMENT, AND MAYBE MAY STAY

26:49WITH MOCA FOR PERMANENTLY.

26:51SEEING IF THIS MOVES FOREOR

26:53NOT THE I WAS-FORWARD OR NOT.

26:58WONDERING IF THIS INCLUDES, I

26:59GUESS IT DOES INCLUDE THAT.

27:00DOES INCLUDE SISTER CITY

27:04PROGRAM.

27:04OKAY.

27:04NEVERMIND. ANSWERED MY OWN

27:05QUESTION BY READING

27:06RESOLUTION.

27:06IN THAT SENSE, I BUSINESS WITH

27:13THAT, WITH THAT SENSE, ARE YOU

27:13GOING TO IT BE LOOKING FOR --

27:14I GUESS WITH THAT SENSE,

27:15LOOKING FOR MORE THAN JUST

27:18PROGRAMMATIC SUPPORT BUT MORE

27:19OFFICE AND DEPARTMENTAL

27:19SUPPORT BY WAY OF POSITIONS?

27:23>>Testifier: SO THIS

27:26PARTICULAR PROPOSAL REQUEST

27:29AND THIS RESOLUTION IS NOT

27:30CHANGING ANY OF THIS SCOPE OF

27:30OUR OFFICE.

27:34YOU MIGHT AS YOU'RE MENTIONING

27:38COUNCILMEMBER, YOU MIGHT HAVE

27:38SEEN SOME OF THIS SHIFTS IN

27:39HUGH WE'RE SHOWING UP AND

27:43DELIVERING. BUT THE SCOPE OF

27:43WORK THE WHAT IS THE SAME.

27:44THE HOW IS THE I WOULD

27:46PROBABLY SAY EVOLVED IN THE

27:49PAST YEAR.

27:51AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE

27:53STRENGTH EARNED ENDED WITH THE

27:59FOLKS.

27:59POINTING OUT SISTER CITIES,

28:01PRIORITY WITH OUR COUNCIL.

28:05HAPPY WITH AT LOT OF THE

28:06INACTS WE'VE HAD BEEN ABLE TO

28:06IMPLEMENT SOME OF THOSE

28:07SUGGESTION PROGRAMMING WE HAVE

28:10TODAY.

28:10BUT AGAIN,, THE WHAT AS FAR AS

28:11MOCA SCOPE, RESPONSIBILITIES,

28:13IS NOT IMPACT IN ANY WAY.

28:17BY THIS RESOLUTION.

28:17EL.

28:18>>Councilmember Cordero:

28:20OKAY.

28:21UNDERSTOOD.

28:21>> THANK YOU.

28:21I THINK I'LL TRY TO FORMULATE

28:25MORE QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG

28:26WITH THIS DISCUSSION.

28:27THANK YOU CHAIR.

28:27>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

28:29YOU.

28:30CHAIR WATERSMENT.

28:33>>Councilmember Waters:

28:34THANK YOU.

28:35OFFICE OF MAYOR'S OFFICE OF

28:37SCRCULTURE AND THE ARTS FOUNDED

28:41IN 1972.

28:4235 YEARS AGO.

28:42AND IT'S BEEN WORKING JUST

28:43FINE.

28:44WHY THE CHANGE NOW?

28:47>>Testifi FOR US MAYBE SOMETHING

28:53WASN'T INTENTIONALLY OPERATING

28:57AS SUCH FOR ALL OF TEASE

28:57YEARS.

28:585 YEARS IS A LONG TIME.

29:0055 YEARS IS A LONG TIME.

29:04>>Councilmember Waters:

29:0435.

29:0455 IS A LONG TIME BUT THEY.

29:05>> HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR

29:0535 YEARS.

29:08ESTABLISHED IN 1971.

29:09TO TAKE CARE OF THE ART

29:10COLLECTION OF THE CITY.

29:11>>Testifier: RIGHT.

29:12>>Councilmember Waters:

29:12JUST CURIOUS.

29:16JUST SEEMS OUT OF THE BLUE.

29:17>>Testifier: I DON'T THINK

29:17THAT IS THE OUT OF THE BLUE AS

29:18WELL. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR

29:23ENTIRETY OF THAT TIME BEFORE

29:24ME.

29:24BUT I CAN SAY THAT FOR ME,

29:26COMING IN THIS ROLE I FEEL

29:29THAT BEYOND THE ROLE ITSELF,

29:31THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAKING

29:32SURE THAT I MILLION POSI AM

29:38POSITIONING MOCA TO BE

29:38SOMETHING THAT IS SEEN AS,

29:39VALUABLE ADD FOUNDATION A.M.,

29:42TO THE CITY, AND TO THE

29:43ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE OF IT

29:44CITY, IT IS CRITICAL.

29:47CULTURE AND ART IT'S DOESN'T

29:50HAVE A TIMELINE.

29:50CULTURE AND THE ARTS IS

29:51ESPECIALLY HERE ON OAHU,

29:53SHOULD BE ONGOING

29:57PERPETUATION.

29:58AND CREATING US SORRY,

29:59RECLASSIFYING YOU URBAN

29:59DEVELOPMENT US AS OFFICE,

30:01OPPOSED TO A PROGRAM, PROVIDES

30:05THAT STABILITY THAT

30:07FOUNDATION, AND THAT ONGOING

30:09CONTINUITY.

30:10ACROSS THIS ADMINISTRATION AND

30:11ALL THE ADMINISTRATIONS TO

30:13COME.

30:13>>Councilmember Waters:

30:16YOU TESTIFIED THAT THE

30:17ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN

30:17TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE A

30:19WHILE.

30:20WHY WASTE WASN'T IT BROUGHT UP

30:24BEFORE THE CHARTER COMMISSION?

30:24BECAUSE WE SPENT -- WHY WASN'T

30:25IT BROUGHT MANY SPENT A LOT OF

30:26TAXPAYOR MONEY ON.

30:30PUTTING TOGETHER THIS CHARTER

30:31COMMISSION.

30:31MARY THINK HAD 7 A POINTEES,

30:34COUNCIL HAS 6.

30:37MAYOR HAD) WAS THIS, PUT

30:39BEFORE THE CHARTER COMMISSION

30:41AND THEY DENIED IT?

30:44IS THAT WHY WEAR COMING TO US.

30:45>>Testifier: NO.

30:45>>Councilmember Waters:

30:46WAS IT EVEN PUT FORWARD, SINCE

30:49YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT

30:51AIR FOR A LONG TIME.

30:52>> WHY DIDN'T YOU GO THROUGH

30:52THE CHARTER AMENDMENT?

30:53SET UP SPECIFICALLY FOR

30:57SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

30:57CHARTER COMMISSION.

30:59>>Testifier: YOU DIDN'T WANT

31:01TO MISSPEAK ON THAT.

31:05ON BEHALF OF HE THOSE

31:06DECISIONS MADE BY THE MANAGING

31:06DIRECTOR'S OFFICE.

31:07BUT I CAN SAY THAT THIS

31:12SOMETHING THAT PEEL IS FEEL IT S

31:21CRITICAL AND FOR THE STABILITY

31:22OF YOU ARE YOU ARE OFFICE AND

31:23ALSO FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.

31:24BECAUSE FOR OUR OFFICE.

31:25VALUE OF WHAT THIS BRINGS, TO

31:29OUR COMMUNITIES IS SOMETHING

31:29THAT NEEDS TO REALLY MAKE US

31:30SUBSTANTIAL SHIFT FROM BEING

31:36EXTRACURRICULAR WHICH IN MY

31:37OPINION IS WHAT A PROGRAM

31:37REPRESENTS, TO CORE

31:38INFRASTRUCTURE.

31:39WHICH IS COMMITMENT OF

31:43STABILITYIZING US AS AN

31:44OFFICE.

31:44>>Councilmember Waters:

31:45LETTER TO ME, FROM THE

31:45MAYOR,EL SAYS THATEL YOUR

31:48OFFICE IS ESSENTIAL AND

31:51CARRYING OUT CORE MISSION OF

31:52SUPPORTING LOCAL ARTISTS, HAD

31:53BEEN O ORGANIZE NATIVE HONORINGN

31:58TRUMP ADMINISTRATION DINGS AS

31:59UPLIFTING DIVERSE COMMUNITIES.

32:01>>Testifier: CORRECT.

32:03HONORING NATIVE HAWAIIAN

32:03COMMUNITIES.

32:07WENT THROUGH THE CHARTER

32:07COMMISSION SAYS SHOULD AN

32:08OFFICE OF OIW.

32:08>>Vice Chair Tupola:

32:09RESOURCES CULTURAL STEWARDSHIP

32:13WITHIN ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE

32:14OFFICE OF MAYOR TO OVERSEE THE

32:15MANAGEMENT OF OIWI RESOURCES

32:18WITHIN THE STOT CITY DEVELOPED

32:18RELATED PROGRAMMING AND CREATE

32:19CULTURALLY ADVISORY COUNCIL OF

32:22KUPUNA, CULTURALING

32:26PRACTITIONERS AND COMMUNITY

32:26REPRESENTATIVES.

32:27I THINK YOU CHARACTERIZED IT

32:28AS HEALTHY AMOUNT OF OVERLAP.

32:33ANOTHER WAY OF PUTTING IT

32:34COULD BE, REDUNDANCY.

32:34>>Testifier: I DON'T SEE IT

32:36REDUNDANT WITH ALL DUE

32:39RESPENGT OISH RESOURCES

32:40SPECIFIC TO THE NATIVE

32:41HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY.

32:42>>Councilmember Waters:

32:42WOULD YOU NOW IN YOUR OFFICE,

32:44JUST GIVE EVERYTHING DEALING

32:47WITH NATIVE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY

32:48TO THE OFFICE OF O WIVMENT AI

32:49RESOURCE AND YOU DO DON'T HAVE

32:53TO DEAL WITH IT ANY MORE,

32:54'OIWI I U I DON'T WE WOULD

32:55HAVE TO NOT DEAL WITH ANY

32:59MORE.

33:00STILL BE WITHIN OUR SCOPE,

33:00WE'RE HERE I WOULD ON OAHU.

33:06TALK ABOUT CULTURE HAVE TO

33:07START AT THE PIKO WITH KANAKA.

33:07I THINK THAT AGAIN, SCOPE OF

33:09WORK THAT MOCA WILL BE

33:13CONTINUING TO OVERSEE, HAS

33:15STABILITYIZED WHERE THE YOIRVE

33:20YOIRVEL 'OIWI RESOURCES OFFICE

33:21RUN ALONG PARALLEL WITH US.

33:25I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE

33:26WRITTEN, THAT AND AGAIN, WE

33:27ARE IN CONVERSATIONS TO ENSURE

33:28THAT SCOPE IS CA CLEAR.

33:32AND AGAIN, THERE ARE OTHER

33:33CULTURES THAT ARE HERE ON OAHU

33:34KNEW, A THAT OUR OFFICE ALSO

33:38RESPONSIBLE FOR HE WILL

33:39VATTING VOICES.

33:40HE WILL HAVE AING VOICE.

33:42-- ELEVATING VOICES ALSO

33:46ENTIRELY SEPARATE SCOPE NOT

33:47THAT YOU CAN SEPARATE CRAR,

33:49BUT TO OUR CULTURE AND THE

33:50ARTS.

33:50LOCAL ARTISTS PRACTITIONERS

33:53MAKERS AS WELL, AND SO I THINK

33:56THAT IT WOULD BE SEEN AS RIGHT

33:58HAND AND LEFT HAND SITUATION

34:03WHERE THEY CAN BOTH WORK

34:03INDEPENDENTLY AND THEY CAN

34:04BOTH BE STRONGER TOGETHER.

34:05BUT I DON'T SEE ANY SORT OF

34:06REREDUNDANCIESPOTENTIALLY AT RIR

34:15UTILIZATION WASTE.

34:15>>Councilmember Waters:

34:16CPK BROUGHT IT UP BUT THERE IS

34:17A DISTINCTION BETWEEN

34:17EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT AND

34:19OFFICE UNDER THE MANAGING

34:24DIRECTOR.

34:25IS IT TRUE THAT YOU WOULD BE

34:26ELEVATED TO LIKE A DEPARTMENT

34:29HEAD?

34:30>>Testifier: SO I DON'T WANT

34:37TO MISSPEAK.

34:37GET, ON SOMETHING THAT I DON'T

34:39HAVE THE SUBJECT MATTER

34:39EXPERTISE TO REPRESENT.

34:41BUT IT IS AS IT STATED WITHIN

34:44THE RESOLUTION.

34:45>>Councilmember Waters: MY

34:45UNDERSTANDING THAT A

34:46DEPARTMENT HEAD MAKES ABOUT

34:47$211,000 A YEAR.

34:50AND YEAR CRU CRRNTDLY MAKING ABT

34:54$150,000.

34:54WITH YOUR SALARY BE JUMPED UP

34:58FROM 15,000 TO $211,000.

34:59>>Testifier: NOT

34:59CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAVE

35:00HAD.

35:04NO.

35:04>>Councilmember Waters:

35:04SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER?

35:05>>Testifier: SURE.

35:05ABSOLUTELY.

35:06>>Councilmember Waters:

35:06ULTIMATE WILL YOU COME BACK

35:07DOWN TO THE BUDGET AND WHETHER

35:07OR NOT WE CAN AFFORD TO

35:10ELEVATE YOU LIKE THIS.

35:10>>Testifier: UNDERSTOOD.

35:13WE DON'T IS THAT --

35:15>>Councilmember Waters: I

35:16THINK DEPUTY DIRECTOR JUST

35:20APPROVED TAKING ABOUT $207,000

35:20A YEAR.

35:20SO AGAIN, THAT IS GOING TO BE

35:22HUGE BUMP.

35:25DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE A DEPUTY

35:25DIRECTOR.

35:26>>Testifier: NO.

35:26I DO NOT.

35:26>>Councilmember Waters: SO

35:27DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE HAVE A

35:30CREATE A DEPUTY DIRECTOR

35:30POSITION HERE MINIMUM KEAWALAU

35:33EDUCATIONS -- QUALIFICATIONS

35:37PROPOSED IN THIS CARTER

35:38AMENDMENT?

35:39>>Testifier: SO CHARTER

35:40AMENDMENT I FULLY W WELCOME

35:43THESE QUESTIONS. BECAUSE

35:46THERE ARE HIRO OFFICES THAT

35:46HAVE DONE A SIMILAR PATH AS

35:47FAR AS SHIFTING FROM PROGRAM

35:49OFFICE.

35:52HAVE DONE SIMILAR OFFICE,

35:53OTHER OFFICES RELEVANT IN

35:54THEIR RESOLUTION BUT OURS

35:55ISN'T, THE ENTIRE TIF THE

35:59REORG THAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING

36:00NOW.

36:00OURS IS NOT POSITIONING THIS

36:02TO HELP LEVERAGE ANYTHING SUCH

36:07AT ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WERE

36:08JUST MENTIONED.

36:08>>Councilmember Waters:

36:09WWILL THIS JOB BE CIVIL SERVICE

36:14POSITION OR EXEMPT POSITION?

36:18>>Testifier: IT WILL

36:18CONTINUE TO STAY EXEMPT.

36:19>>Councilmember Waters:

36:19SHOULDN'T THAT BE IN THE

36:20CACHORMAN HART RT AMENDMENT?

36:24IT'S NOT KEALOHA CHARTER

36:25AMENDMENT.

36:26>>Testifier: POSSIBLY MANY I

36:27DON'T KNOW.

36:27YEAH.

36:30POSSIBLY I DON'T KNOW.

36:31CHARTER AMENDMENT.

36:32>>Chair Nishimoto: ALL

36:32RIGHT WHAT DO YOU THINK THE

36:33MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS SHOULD

36:34BE FOR THIS POSITION?

36:39>>Testifier: THE MOCA

36:39DIRECTOR.

36:39SHOULD BY PUT THAT INTO --

36:41>>Testifier: MY ROLE.

36:42>>Councilmember Waters:

36:45YES.

36:45SHOULD WE PUT THAT INTO THE

36:46CHARTER.

36:46LIKE AUDITOR T HAS QUALIFICATION

36:52OTHER POSITIONS HAVE MINIMUM

36:52KEAWALAU DPAITION.

36:53OCS DIRECTOR HAVE MINIMUM

36:57QUALIFICATIONS IT'S IN THE

36:58CHARTER.

36:58QUALIFICATIONS SHOULD WE PUT

36:59THAT IN THE CHARTER FOR YOUR

37:02DEPARTMENT?

37:03>>Testifier: I'M AND I TO

37:03VEX CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT WHAT

37:04THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

37:04HAPPY TO PROVIDE JOB

37:10DESCRIPTION THAT I HAVE AND

37:11THAT I OPERATE WITH TODAY.

37:14>>Councilmember Waters:

37:15UHERO HOPINGYOU'RE HOPING TO AMT

37:20TO THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT?

37:21IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

37:25>>Testifier: I AM OPEN TO

37:27DISCUSSES.

37:27I WOULD SAY.

37:29OF COURSE.

37:29BUT AGAIN, THE RESOLUTION,

37:34INTENT OF THE RESOLUTION WAS

37:35REAL I WILL NOT ABOUT ME.

37:35IT'S ABOUT THE OFFICE.

37:38REALLY NOT ABOUT ME.

37:39>>Councilmember Waters:

37:42SURE.

37:42BUT ABSOLUTELY WILL FEBLGHTD

37:43YOU COULD WILL AFFECT YOU

37:45COULD AFFECT YOUR PAY DREAM EN

37:51TREMENDTREMOLANTI EN TREMENDOUS.

37:53ARE YOU OPEN TO US AMENDING

37:55CHARTER IT REQUEST FOR CHARTER

37:56AMENDMENT?

37:56QUESTION REALLY, ARE WE EVEN

37:57ABLE TO DO THAT REALLY?

38:02>>Testifier: WELL, WE SHOULD

38:03ASK LEGAL OPINION.

38:05YOU ARE AN ATTORNEY.

38:05BUT THANK YOU.

38:11>>Testifier: REP WEYER.

38:13>>Councilmember Weyer:

38:15THANKS CHAIR.

38:16MAHALO DIRECTOR.

38:18I'M JUST YOURSELF.

38:19YOU KNOW FOR THE OTHER

38:20COUNTIES THAT HAVE DEPARTMENTS

38:24OR OFFICES OF OISH RESOURCES

38:26ALSO HAVE SEPARATE OFFICES OF

38:27CULTURE AND THE ARTS OR THIS

38:31ARE THEY COMBINED?

38:31OR DO YOU KNOW?

38:32'OIWI RESOURCE.

38:32>>Testifier: WIN THE

38:32COUNTIES OF HAWAII?

38:34WE ARE THE ONLY OFFICE OF

38:37CULTURE AND THE ARTS.

38:37ACROSS PAI'AINA.

38:38>>Councilmember Weyer:

38:38OTHER COUNTIES WHO HAS OIRVEL

38:42RESOURCES?

38:42IS IT MAUI?

38:43'OIWI) MAUI ONLY COUNTY THAT

38:44I'M AWARE OF HAS 'OIWI

38:45RESOURCES.

38:48BARR U.

38:48>>Councilmember Weyer: ARE

38:49THEY DOING SISTER CITIES

38:49SISTER COUNTIES APOLOGIES.

38:53>>Testifier: NOT THAT MY

38:53PAIRNS.

38:54SO HONOLULU IS ONLY AGENCY SNY

38:57AWARENESS.

38:57ONLY ASSIST R SIGNATURECY

39:01SISTER CITIES.

39:02ASSIST CENTER CITY.

39:02HAWAII AS AS A STATE HAS STATE

39:03SISTER STATE IS PART OF THE

39:05SISTER STATE PROGRAM.

39:08AS FAR AS COUNTIESINGS IT'S

39:09ONLY HONOLULU.

39:09-- SISTER CITY.

39:10>>Councilmember Weyer:

39:10APPRECIATE THAT.

39:14KIND OF TALKING ABOUT ROLE OF

39:15DIFFERENT OFFICES.

39:17I MEAN FIRST I DIDN'T EVEN

39:18KNOW IT WASN'T AN OFFICE.

39:20MOST PEOPLE KNOW IT WAS JUST A

39:23PROGRAM?

39:24>>Testifier: I DON'T THINK

39:24ANYBODY KNEW.

39:24AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT.

39:27>>Councilmember Weyer:

39:27THEN THIS CHANGE IS NOT

39:31CHANGING ANYTHING

39:31STRUCTURALLY.

39:32>>Testifier: CORRECT.

39:32>>Councilmember Weyer:

39:32ABOUT THE POSITIONS OR WORK?

39:34>>Testifier: CORRECT.

39:34>>Councilmember Weyer:

39:39OKAY.

39:39THTHANK YOU FOR CARR FIGHTING

39:40THAT.

39:40CAUGHT UP BY THE LEVEL OF

39:41DISCUSSION.

39:41CLARIFYING THAT.

39:45I GUESS I'M WONDERING, DORL

39:45KANAKA OBAMA HAVE A SPECIAL

39:47RELATIONSHIP TO HAWAII IN THE

39:50COMMUNITY?

39:50KANAKA AND 'OIWI).

39:54>>Testifier: WHO?

39:55>>Councilmember Weyer:

39:55NATIVE HAWAIIANS.

39:55NATIVE HAWAIIANS.

39:56>>Testifier: NATIVE

39:56HAWAIIANS CAN YOU PLEASE

39:57REPEAT THE QUESTION?

40:00I HAVE A HARD TIME HEARING

40:01YOU.

40:01>>Councilmember Weyer:

40:01WOULD YOU SAY THEY HAVE A

40:02SPECIAL PLACE OR ROLE.

40:05>>Testifier: MOCA.

40:05>>Councilmember Weyer: TO

40:08THE HAWAII, COMMUNITY.

40:09>>Testifier: ABSOLUTELY.

40:09THERE IS NO HAWAII WITHOUT

40:12KANAKA.

40:12>>Councilmember Weyer: IF

40:13ANY MIND, ESPECIALLY LOOKING

40:17AT ALL OF THESE DISCUSSIONS

40:17AND POTENTIAL ERASURE OF

40:18DIFFERENT GROUPS AND IDEA THAT

40:20OFFICE OR DEPARTMENT OF

40:25OVERPASS 'OIWI RESOURCES FULL

40:27FUNDING LSE SPECIFIC

40:31SPECIFIC RESPONSIBILITY.

40:32RESPONSIBILITY CULTURE AND THE

40:33ARTS EXTENDS MUCH BROADER THAN

40:34THAT.

40:35>>Testifier: CORRECT.

40:38I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

40:38WEYER WA*R WEYER NOT MORE

40:39IMPORTANTLY JUST DIFFERENTLY.

40:39>>Testifier: ABSOLUTELY.

40:41IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I

40:44WOULD BE ABLE TO WAIT --

40:44>>Councilmember Weyer:.

40:45>>Councilmember Weyer: I

40:45WANTED TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH

40:49THAT I REALLY VALUE AND

40:49APPRECIATE THAT DISTINCTION

40:50PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE NATURE

40:50OF THE WORK AS WE GO THROUGH

40:52ALL OF THE DIFFERENT HERITAGE

40:56MONTHS, AND ACTUALLY WONDER IF

40:57THERE WOULD BE MORE OF AN

40:59OPPORTUNITY TO STAY TRUE TO

41:01YOU ARE NATIVE HAWAIIAN

41:02THIEWNT R COMMUNITY AND THEIR

41:06HISTORY, NATIVE HAWAIIAN

41:06COMMUNITY AND HISTORY

41:07SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE WORK

41:09THAT OFFICE OF CULTURE AND THE

41:10ARTS CAN DO MORE BROADLY, I

41:13THINK IT WOULD JUST BE SUCH

41:15AMAZING COMPLEMENT IT EACH

41:15OTHER.

41:18>>Testifier: I AGREE.

41:19THRAJ YOU FOR THAT

41:19COUNCILMEMBER.

41:20>>Councilmember Weyer:

41:20APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

41:21>>Testifier: THANK YOU.

41:21>>Councilmember Weyer:

41:24TALK TAKING TIME TO MEET AND

41:25WALK THROUGH ALL QUESTIONS IN

41:25MY OFFICE.

41:26ALWAYS ACCESSIBLE.

41:26THANK YOU CHAIR.

41:30>>Testifier: MAHALO.

41:30>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

41:31YOU MEMBERS ANYTHING ELSE?

41:31SEEING NONE.

41:32ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC

41:32WISHING TO TESTIFY PLEASE COUL L

41:36COME FORWARD.

41:39SEEING NONE.

41:40REMOTE TESTIFIERS.

41:40>>Council Clerk: CHAIR,

41:41THERE ARE NONE.

41:41>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

41:45YOU.

41:46MEMBERS, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION.

41:46IF NOT I HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS.

41:51>>Councilmember Kia'aina:

41:51FOR DISCUSSION.

41:52FIRST OF ALL NEED TO LET YOU

41:56KNOW I THINK YOU'RE DOING A

41:56GOOD JOB.

41:57SO WITH REGARD TO OFFICE

41:57VERSUS PROGRAM, I UNDERSTAND

42:01THAT.

42:02BUT OKAY.

42:03NEED CLARIFICATION.

42:04BUT I OARCHT HE DPOAFNT KNOW

42:04IF MIGHT CONCERNS WITH REGARD

42:05TO AIL ADDRESSING THAT WILL BE

42:09SUFFICIENT.

42:09I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW

42:09WE CAN'T HAVE A LOT OF

42:11OFFICES, I KNOW THE 'OIWI, THE

42:17ANDS OF THAT OFFICE HAD WANTED

42:17DEPARTMENT.

42:18AND I GUESS WONDERING IF --

42:21ADVOCATES OF THAT OFFICE.

42:24ANY PROBLEM WITH WAITING,

42:25UNTIL WE KNOW WAS THE OUTCOME

42:26OF THE VOTE IS IN NOVEMBER.

42:31TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THIS

42:34WILL HAS TO BE RESTRUCTURED

42:35ATTOCON 10 PLATE T THE AB SORNI.

42:43OFFICE INTO THIS.

42:43CONTEMPLATE THE AB SORMINGS.

42:44I DON'T THINK IT'S A VALID

42:44DISCUSSION. I CAN TELL THE

42:47DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OFFICE OF

42:48CULTURE AND THE ARTS.

42:48AB SORNINGSED A YOU'VE AB SORMB

43:02ABERCROMBIE SOUTHERN SHUN.

43:02BETTER ASCERTAIN BORNT THE YOU

43:03MERGED THOSE OFFICES OR AB

43:05SOUTHERN SHUN.

43:06CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM S&P

43:09SENATOR LAURA RATTY WARD

43:10AVENUE OVERPASS TO DO TOLD

43:10THAT YOU.

43:11IT HAVE THEM SEPARATE.

43:12>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

43:14YOU.

43:19ABSORPTION?

43:19ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

43:19>>Councilmember Waters:

43:20VOTE WITH RESTS REZ NOW.

43:21OF COURSE, RESERVATIONS.

43:22VOTE IN LARGE RESPECT, IS

43:26IRRELEVANT.

43:27BECAUSE THE FULL COUNCIL HAS

43:27TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS.

43:29AND THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN

43:33NEXT IF YOU WILL COUNCIL

43:33MEETING.

43:34BUT I'M JUST SIGNALING MY

43:34CONCERNS WITH THIS POINT.

43:35AND I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OTHER

43:38COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE SIMILAR

43:39CONCERNS I AGREE WITH

43:39COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA.

43:40TIME SOMETHING BAD.

43:41WE SHOULD PROBABLY WAIT.

43:45TIME SOMETHING BAD.

43:46OPEN TO ANY AMENDMENT YOU HAVE

43:46HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT.

43:50BUT ULTIMATELY, I'M NOT SURE

43:51WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD

43:52WITH THIS UNTIL THE CITY

43:54CHARTER IS ON THE BALLOT.

43:55>>Chair Nishimoto: ANYONE

43:58ELSE?

43:59SEEING NONE.

43:59CHAIR 'RECOMMENDATION LET ME

44:00FRAME THIS FOR THE MEMBERS.

44:02CHARTER SECTION 4-202, COUNCIL

44:0760 DAYS TO ACTED ON EXECUTIVE

44:08CHARTER REORGANIZATION

44:09OTHERWISE, TAKE EFFECT

44:13AUTOMATICALLY.

44:13SO WE HAVE TO IT ACT TODAY.

44:14IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY

44:15PREFERENCE TO TAKE OUR OUR

44:19TIME WITH THIS.

44:20BUT BECAUSE OF THIS CHARTER

44:20SECOND, DID WE DO NOTHING,

44:21THIS BU BECOMING ENACTS

44:26AUTOMATICALLY.

44:27WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE SIMILAR

44:28CONCERNS THAT COUNCILMEMBER

44:30KIA'AINA HAD.

44:36CONSISTENCIES WITH THE

44:37DRAFTING OF THIS.

44:37IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME.

44:39WHETHER IT'S FOR DEPARTMENT OR

44:41OFFICE.

44:41BUT I WILL BE MAKING

44:44AMENDMENTS SO MEMBERS, HERE

44:45ARE THE AMENDMENTS.

44:48IN WHEREAS CLAUSE 3 AND 4,

44:52IT'S REFERRED TO AS

44:56DEPARTMENT.

44:56IF IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT

44:57THIS IS TO CREATE AN OFFICE SO

44:58I WANT TOO AMEND WHEREAS 3 AND

45:014 TO BE CONSISTENT WITH

45:05BECOMING AN OFFICE NOT A

45:07DEPARTMENT.

45:08IN THE FIRST BE IT RESOLVED

45:10CLAUSE, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE

45:14SECTION IN SO SECTION 6-110.

45:16IS WHERE IT WOULD SIT IN THE

45:18CHARTER.

45:18AND WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE

45:22SUBESSENTIAL D.

45:23FROM THE FIRST BE IT RESOLVED

45:25CLAUSE.

45:25SUBSECTION.

45:26ANY QUESTIONS?

45:33,.

45:34>>Councilmember Kia'aina:

45:34YESELEL HOW ABOUT THE FOURTH

45:35WHEREAS CLAUSE.

45:35IT SAYS, ELEVATE THE ROLE OF

45:37EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AS THE

45:41ADMINISTRATION HEAD OF THE

45:41DEPARTMENT.

45:42WILL OFFICE BE INSERTED THERE

45:42AS WELL?

45:42>>Chair Nishimoto: COUNTY

45:46CONSISTENT WITH BE ON OFFICES

45:47NOT A DEPARTMENT.

45:47IN SECTION WHEREAS 3 AND 4, I

45:48WANT IT TO BE CONSISTENT TO BE

45:52OFFICE NOT A DEPARTMENT.

45:53>>Councilmember Kia'aina:

45:53THANK YOU SO MUCH.

45:54>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

45:54YOU.

45:54ANYONE ELSE?

45:56MEMBERS WRS OR NOs?

46:00RECESS.

46:03(RECESS).

46:33♪

46:48♪

47:08>>Chair Nishimoto: MEMBERS

47:09YOU HAVE AMENDMENT.

47:10FIRST VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

47:16ANY WRS OR NOs FOR PUTTING

47:17AMENDMENTS INTO IN RESOLUTION?

47:19RECALL SEEING NONE.

47:19THANK YOU.

47:23MEMBERS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE

47:24THE VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION

47:2626-201.

47:27RECALL CD1.

47:27ANY WRS OR NOs?

47:31WRS FOR WATERS.

47:32>> WR FOR KIA'AINA.

47:34WR FORTUNE.

47:38WR FOREVER P CORDERO.

47:39FOR TUPOLA.

47:41FOR TULBA.

47:41THANK YOU MA'AM MEMBERS NEXT

47:44JENLDZ I'M.

47:47THANK YOU MEMBERS ARER.

47:48NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

47:48AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.

47:50BILL 52.

47:56OKAMOTO HERE?

47:57>>Testifier: GOOD AFTERNOON

47:58COUNCILMEMBERS.

47:58PAUL OKAMOTO MAJOR FOR

48:01WAIKIKI.

48:02FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

48:03ASKING FOR SUPPORT OF THIS

48:06BILL.

48:06PRIMARY MOTIVATIONS FOR THE

48:07PEDALING SEEING IN WAIKIKI IS

48:12TO ENRICH THEM ACCEPTS AND

48:13BUSINESSES AND I TEAL THAT IS

48:14THE NOT APPROPRIATE.

48:14THAT WE RAISE THE FINES FOR

48:16THESE PEN PEDALING OFFENSES.

48:20ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

48:20DEEP DEEP DIERVEL INTO SOME OF

48:23THE CITATION OVER THE PAST I

48:26WOULD SAY 3 YEARS BACK TO

48:272024.

48:27DEEP DIVE, FOUND THAT, NEARLY

48:32HEAVY THINK 46% RECALL ALL THE

48:33PEOPLE WE'VE CITED WERE REPEAT

48:36OFFENDERS.

48:37I THINK APPROPRIATE.

48:39I THINK ABOUT 100 OR SO

48:43CITATIONS THAT WE GAVE.

48:44AND MOSTLY ALL OF THEM WERE IN

48:48CHINATOWN, AND ALSO IN

48:51WAIKIKI.

48:52I THINK THERE WAS ONE OUT IN

48:52WAIANAE COAST.

48:53BUT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU

48:53WHERE THE PRIMARILY WHERE WE

48:57DO THEN ENFORCEMENT OF THIS

48:58PEDALING VIOLATION.

49:00SO WANT TO MENTION THAT ONE

49:02COMPANY THAT WAS CITED I

49:07BELIEVE IT WAS 13 TIMES IN THE

49:07PAST 16 MONTHS.

49:09SO THIS IS REALLY PROBLEM FOR

49:14US.

49:14BRICK AND MORTAR IT RETAILERS

49:15IN CHINATOWN AND IN WAIKIKI,

49:15ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE RULES, PAY

49:17TAXES, PAY RENT.

49:21AND SO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

49:22ER.

49:22>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

49:23YOU.

49:23MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS?

49:26REP TUPOLA.

49:26>>Jason: TUPOLA THANK YOU SO

49:30MUCH MAJOR.

49:31THANK YOU FOR INTERACTING WITH

49:31ME RESPONDING TO MY REQUEST

49:32AND TAKING A DEEP DATA DIVE ON

49:35THIS.

49:36I GUESS MY SUGGESTION I DON'T

49:36NOT GOING TO AMEND THE BILL OR

49:37ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

49:38WE THINK WE'RE AT THE LAST

49:41HOUR HERE.

49:41BUT I THINK ALL OF THE LAWS

49:42THAT I'M TRYING TO GET DONE IN

49:43MY UNTO U COMMUNITY, MAIN

49:47THING IS FOLLOWING IT THROUGH

49:48WITH THE PROSECUTOR WITH

49:48SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO MAKE

49:49SURE THAT ANY OF THIS HAS ANY

49:52WEIGHT.

49:53SO WERE YOU ABLE TO VERIFY

49:53THAT THESE CITATIONS YOU'RE

49:55GIVING ARE GETTING PAID?

49:59>>Testifier: YES.

49:59WE'RE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO THAT

50:00IS ACTUALLY FOR THROUGH EACH

50:01CASE.

50:01I'M HAVING MYEL ADMINISTRATIVE

50:05STAFF GO THROUGH VALUE

50:06VIOLATIONS AND SENDING THAT TO

50:07YOU FOLKS.

50:07SO YOU REQUEST SEE WHAT THE

50:12DISPOSITION OF THOSE ALEAH KAY

50:12ARE.

50:13LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I THINK

50:13REMEDY FOR THIS DISTANT

50:19INCENTIVIZE PEDALING INCREASE

50:19FINES BECAUSE THE MOTIVATION

50:20FOR IT IS TO MAKE MONEY.

50:21>>Vice Chair Tupola:

50:22>>Councilmember Tupola: IF

50:26YOU CITED SAME PERSON, DMANS

50:26NOBODY IS COLLECTING ANY OF

50:27THE FEES.

50:28SO THAT TPLF THAT'S THE

50:29CASEWORKING WITH THE PROWS

50:32KATOER, WORK WITH SOMETHING TO

50:33DO BOTH ENDS OF ENFORCEMENT

50:34THAT IS REALLY WHAT THREADED.

50:38WORKING WITH THE PROSECUTOR.

50:39ON THE BOOKS ALREADY HRS 436B,

50:40IF YOU'RE OPERATING WITHOUT A

50:43LICENSE, IT SAYS THAT THE

50:44FIRST OFFENSE IS 500 OR 40% OF

50:44ALL THE GOODS AND SERVICES

50:48WIND FARM IS GREATER.

50:49SO IF THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU

50:49GET DCCA INVOLVED AND ACTUALLY

50:53WORK WITH TRYING TO TAKE 40%

50:53OR WHATEVER IS GREATER, YOU

50:54GUYS CAN HAVE A LOT MORE

50:55SUCCESS THAT WAY TOO.

50:59WHICHEVER IS GREATER.

50:59( ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE THE

51:00LAWS ON THE BOOKIER ANDS AS

51:03WELL MAKING SURE BOOKS MAKING

51:04SURE ADJUDICATION PART OF THIS

51:05MATCHES UP YOU GUYS EFFORTS SO

51:06YOU'RE NOT GIVING CITATIONS

51:10REALLY NO ONE IS PAYING AND A

51:10TRYING TO CHECK IF ANYONE DID

51:11PAY.

51:11>>Testifier: UNDERSTAND.

51:15YES.

51:15TUPOLA THANK YOU.

51:16>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK A

51:16MEMBERS PRESENT NIGHS OTHER

51:17QUESTIONS?

51:17SEEING NONEFULLY OTHER

51:21QUESTIONS.

51:21ANYONE AT IN AUDIENCE WISH

51:21WILLING TO TESTIFIER.

51:22PLEASE COME FORWARD.

51:27WISHING TO TESTIFY.

51:30>>Testifier: HELLO.

51:31OKAY MY NAME STEVE RECALL

51:33WALTER.

51:34RECALL WORKING IN WAIKIKI FOR

51:3840 YEARS.

51:39AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF

51:39DIFFERENT THINGS TAKE PLACE.

51:41WHAT IS GOING ON NOW LIKE THE

51:43OFFICE SAID, OFFICER SAID,

51:47THAT GROUP.

51:47WHICH I'M AWARE OF.

51:50IS PROLIFERATING TO THE POINT

51:51WHERE THERE WAS ONE NOW

51:55THERE'S LIKE 7 OR 8 OF THEM

51:55AND WHAT THEY DO IS IT THEY'RE

51:57MARKETING ON THE PUBLIC

52:01STREET.

52:02WHICH IS ILLEGAL.

52:02AND I USED TO WORK WITH THE

52:03PALI DEPARTMENT POLICE

52:04DEPARTMENT ASKED ME TO HELP

52:08THEM OUT AND I DID.

52:08EL YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO

52:09SOLICIT THE PUBLIC STREET.

52:11AND THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE

52:15NOW.

52:15IT ON KUHIO, BY I OAHU THE YAT

52:21HYATTCENTRIC, MAY MARKET

52:21PLACE, HILLEN TO, ILIKAI AND

52:22ACTUALLY RIGHT ACROSS POLICE

52:26STATION ARE.

52:27HILTON. THAT PICTURE

52:27YESTERDAY.

52:28I MEAN, LITED LITERALLY FRONT R

52:33AND GONE FROM KIOSKS WHICH IS

52:35THIS ONE HERE, NOW THEY'RE

52:38GETTING CLEVER AND GOT THOSE

52:42SCOOTERS.

52:42THAT GO 990 MILES PER HOURER

52:43AROUND AND THEY SLAP THE SIGNS

52:43ON THEM.

52:44ANDEL 9 0 MOBILE, SLICE SPORTS

52:49SOLICITORS ON THE PUBLIC

52:50STREET.

52:51AND HOW THAT FEECT AFFECTS US

52:55AS A BUSINESS WE HAVE 12

52:56RECALL RENTAL LOCATIONS IN

53:00WAIKIKI.

53:00WHERE WE PAY MONTHLY

53:02$83,000.539 RENT.

53:07$83,539 AMENDMENT.

53:11YEARLY $1,028,468.

53:13RENT.

53:14OF COURSE, WE HAVE LIE

53:15LIGHTELIABILITY INSURANCE.

53:19WE HAVE CAM WE HAV HE WITH BURDD

53:24THESE FIGHTS ARE FREESTYLE SO

53:25TO PUT IT PLAIN ENGLISH

53:27LANGUAGE.

53:27THEY'RE NOT PAYING ANY RENT.

53:32MAKING A LOT OF MISS HAWAII

53:33PRINCESS.

53:33THESE GUYS ARE FREESTYLE.

53:34COMPETING ABOUT US WARM-UPS US

53:37LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES.

53:37PAYING A LOT OFFER WE PAYEL

53:41JETT JGENERAL EXCISE TAX ACTIVI.

53:47THE HAWAIIAN PACIFIC

53:48UNIVERSITY.

53:48WE OWN IT.

53:49AND WE ALSO HAVE FUN IN THE

53:55SUN CIRCLE ISLAND TOUR.

53:56THAT IS HOW THEY STARTED.

53:56STARTED SELLING CIRCLE ISLAND.

54:05THEY THEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF

54:05MONEY.

54:05PROBLEM FOR THE WORKERS KIDS

54:06DON'T PAY ANY RENT.

54:06THEY CAN SELL THEIR

54:07CIRCUMSTACIRQUE DU SOLEILEL ISLD

54:11PLAIN SIMPLE TERMS FOR 60,

54:13SEVENTY DOLLARS.

54:16CIRCLE ISLAND IMPLE HAVE TO

54:16MANY COUNT FOR $125 TO COVER

54:17THE MILLION DOLLARS IN RENT.

54:18THE MEDICAL AND DENTAL, BURDEN

54:22THAT WE INCUR AS LEGITIMATE

54:26BUSINESSES.

54:31SO BASICALLY,EL THEY'RE MAKING

54:32A LOT OF MONEY I WILL LEAPLY

54:32AND WE'RE SUFFER -- ILLEGALLY

54:37WE'RE SUFFERING TO PUT IT

54:38SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE UNDER

54:38CUTTING US.

54:39IT'S KIND OF I DO I GO BACK TO E

54:4380s IN WAIKIKI.

54:44SOME OF YOU GUYS MIGHT

54:49TEE-SHIRT VENDORS CAME HERE

54:50FROM THAILAND.

54:50THEY SET UP TABLES IN FRONT OF

54:52ABC STORES, SOLD TEN

54:56TEE-SHIRTS FOR $2,010.

54:58THAT KILLED FOR TEN DOLLARS.

55:00KILLED MR. KOSASAS AND ABC.

55:04I THINK JEREMY HAIRS MAYOR

55:06BACK THEN AND, WENT ON FOR

55:10QUITE A WHILE.

55:10UNTIL THEY FINALLIERER ABC

55:11AMOUNE'OU FINALLY GOT RID OF TH.

55:15PAID NO RENT.

55:16SET UP TABLE. SOLD THEIR

55:20TEE-SHIRTS ON THE STREET.

55:20AND ABC COULDN'T DID THAT.

55:23LEGITIMATE.

55:23CAN'T DO THAT.

55:26THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TO

55:27SUPPORT, TO PUT SOME BITE IN

55:32THE TEETH.

55:32GUYS MAKEEL BAD DAY, 2, 300.

55:33SELLING THEIR TOUR.

55:34AND AGAIN GOOD DAY A THOUSAND.

55:39SO WHEN YOU GIVE THEM A TICKET

55:39FOR 100, TOLD MY WIFE JUST

55:42LAUGH AND GO, I'LL PAY IT.

55:46WHAT'S 100 BUCKS I MADE 900.

55:49THAT IS WHAT WILL WE'RE UP

55:51AGAINST.

55:52THERE'S NOT TO GOT TO BE A BITE

55:55IN THE DOG.

55:57AND 100, 500, THOUSAND, AND

56:01THEN JAIL.

56:01THAT IS A BITE.

56:02IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, YOU'RE

56:04NEVER GOING TO GET RID OF

56:08THESE GUYS.

56:08IT STARTED WITH ONE.

56:09I MEAN, THERE'S 7, 8, 9, 10 OF

56:11THEM OPERATING DAILY AS

56:15OFFICER KNOWS.

56:18WE NEED TO PUT AN END TO THAT.

56:21IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING ILLEGAL.

56:24AND THEY'RE PROLIFERATING AND

56:28IT'S KILIING LEGITIMATE

56:29BUSINESSES THAT PAY G.E.T.,

56:32RENT, MEDICAL, DENTAL,EL

56:37INSURANCE.

56:41THAT IS YOUR I'M HERE.

56:42>>Chair Nishimoto: OKAY.

56:42SENATOR DECORTE.

56:43THANK YOU SIR.

56:46UNDERSTOOD.

56:47ER WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS.

56:47OKAY.

56:47NEXT TESTIFIER.

56:48OKAY.

56:48THANK YOU FOR YOU'RE TIME IT

56:52MICHAEL SWAM, ONE OF MY

56:54PARTNERS ONE OF THE BUSINESS.

56:59I OWN INFO HAWAII MARKING.

56:59PART KAMUANA LUAU.

57:01WE IF ARE DEALING WITH THESE

57:02GUYS ON STREET FOR A LONG TIME

57:06NOW.

57:06THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT IS

57:07KIND OF NEW FOR US.

57:08AND AS POLICE OFFICERS SAID,

57:13YOU ASKED I'M SORRY, DIDN'T

57:14CATCH YOUR NAME, YOU ASKED IF

57:14YOU THINK THESE GUYS ARE

57:16PAYING.

57:17YEAH, THEY ALL PAY.

57:18THEY DO.

57:18HE'S GOING TO FIND OUT,

57:19EVERYBODY PAYS IT'S ONLY 100

57:22BUCKS.

57:23BANNING THE 100 BUCKS OUT AND

57:23MOVE RIGHT AN.

57:24BANNING, I WANT TO READ WHAT I

57:26LOOK HOLLOWAY WROTE DOWN.

57:30BANG DON'T WOULDN'T FORGET.

57:31CONTACTED HPD MANY TIMES.

57:37IT'S ENFORCEMENT COMES IN

57:38WAVES.

57:38COME OUT, GO AWAY.

57:39GUY THEY STREET VENDOR DON'T

57:45RUNWAY.

57:45BUT THEN AS SOON AS THEY SEE

57:45COPS AND COME BEING AROUND

57:46DISTRACTED BACK OUT THERE.

57:48IT'S REALLY BAD FOR, BURDEN ON

57:52OUR BUSINESSES BESIDE JUST

57:52MONETARY COST, FOR THE ACTUAL

57:56PEOPLE.

57:57BECAUSE Y YOU AND YOUR FAMILY

58:01ONE OF KEEPS GUYS SELL YOUR

58:02FAMILY IBLG TILLS.

58:02SOMETHING HAPPENS PLANS

58:05CHANGE.

58:06SOMEBODY SICK E EVENT CANCELS

58:06NO WAY TO GET THE REFUNDS

58:07BACK.

58:07DOES THAT MAKE SENSE.

58:11EVENT SAN CANCELS AFFECTS

58:12TOURISM, AFFECTS, THERE'S LOT

58:12OF EMPTY VACANT LOCATIONS IN

58:16COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN

58:17WAIKIKI, IT'S NOT LIKE THESE

58:18VENDORS CAN'T GO OUT AND FIND

58:21EMPTY LOCATIONS TO WORK FROM.

58:23THEY JUST FOUND A WAY AROUND.

58:24SUPPORTING THE BILL WOULD BE

58:25GREAT.

58:25IT WOULD HALEIWA WAIKIKI

58:29REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

58:30THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

58:30>>Chair Nishimoto: THANK

58:31YOU VERY MUCH.

58:31ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO TESTIFY

58:34PLEASE COME FORWARD. WOULD

58:34REALLY HELP WAIKIKI.

58:35ANY REMOTE TESTIFIERS?

58:37,.

58:37>>Council Clerk: CHAIR,

58:37THERE ARE NONE.

58:38>>Chair Nishimoto:ER

58:41MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS?

58:41SEEING CINNAMON.

58:42THANK YOU.

58:43--SEEING NONE.

58:44THANK YOU.

58:45MEMBERS CHAIR RECOMMENDATION

58:48IS TO PASS UNAMENNED ANY WRS

58:49OR NOs?

58:49SEEING NONE.

58:50THANK YOU.

58:54UNAMENDED OR NOs.

58:54MEMBERS WE'RE GOING TO

58:54EXECUTIVE SESSION.

58:55MEMBERS WE'RE NOW MOVE TO

58:55EXECUTIVE SESSION.

58:59FOLLOWING ITEMS AS POST IT'S

59:00ON THE AGENDA.

59:02REFER TO DO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

59:03REED ITEMS ALL FOR ORAL PUBLIC

59:08TESTIMONY ON EACH ITEM.

59:09TESTIFYINGERS LILIHA TESTIFY

59:09ON ALL EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS

59:11TOGETHER.

59:11TIME AT ALOHA THE FOR EACH

59:15TESTIMONY.

59:15EACH ITEM.

59:15IS ONE MINUTE.

59:16SET FORTH IN OWEENED AGENDA

59:16TIME AT LOCKED, NUMBER 6,

59:24CADIEN TEVMENT E VERSUS CITY &

59:25COUNTY OF HONOLULU.

59:25ANY PERSON TESTIFIERS PLEASE

59:26COME FORWARD.

59:26SEEING NONE.

59:27ARE THERE ANY REMOTE

59:30TESTIFIERS?

59:30CADI ENT E.

59:31>>Council Clerk: CHAIR,

59:32THTHERE ARE NONE.

59:32>>Chair Nishimoto: THAT

59:33SEEING NONE.

59:36ANY OBJECTIONSER TO RESOLVING

59:37INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION?

59:37SEEING NONE.

59:39NO OBJECTIONS, COMMITTEE INTO

59:40EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO

59:43HRS SECTION 92-4 AND

59:4592-5(a)(4), TO CONSULT WITH

59:50ATTORNEYS ON QUESTIONS AND

59:51ISSUES PERTAINING TO POWERS

59:51DUTIES PRIVILEGES IMMUNITY

59:52BEST AND/OR LIGHTENED IT'S

59:56CITY AND COUNCIL P LIABILITIES

59:57CITY COUNCIL ON IS ON LIST

59:57AGENDA FOR TAXIC EXTENSIVE EXECE

1:00:02EXECUTIVE SESSION.

1:00:03FOULING PERSONS.

1:00:05CORP COUNSEL, DEPUTY

1:00:09CORPORATION COUNSEL, YOST AND

1:00:09OGATA, OFFICE OF COUNCIL

1:00:12SERVICES, DIRECTOR PARK,

1:00:16DEPUTY DIRECTOR PITCHER AND

1:00:17STAFF ATTORNEY MATSUDA.

1:00:20RECESS.

1:00:20(RECESS).

1:00:20( EXECUTIVE SESSION)

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1:07:30IT

1:07:32EXECUTIVE SESSION,

1:07:33EXECUTIVE SESSION,

1:11:40CADIENTA V

1:11:51CLICHE

1:13:50TEST TEST TEST TEST TEST TEST

1:13:50TEST TEST

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1:16:21ENTITATTAIENTERTSTAT>>Chair Nis

1:17:19COMMITTEE INTERNATIONAL LEGAL

1:17:22AFFAIRS RECONVENING.

1:17:23PURSUANT TO SECTION THE 92-4

1:17:23AND 29-5A4, OF THE HRS

1:17:26COMMITTEE CONSULTEL EXECUTIVE

1:17:27SESSION AND ATTORNEYS AND

1:17:27QUESTIONS AND ISSUES PERTAIN

1:17:28TO GO THE DILLINGHAM U PO POWER

1:17:32DUTIES PRIVILEGE IT'S IMMU

1:17:33IMMUNITIES AND/OR LIABILITY OF

1:17:34CITY AND THE COUNCIL ON THE

1:17:37ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA FOR

1:17:37EXECUTIVE SESSION.

1:17:38CHAIR RECOMMENDS THAT REQUEST

1:17:40FOR AUTHORIZATION TO SETTLE

1:17:42CASE OF CITY & COUNTY OF

1:17:43HONOLULU AGA AGAINST THE CITY &

1:17:47COUNTY OF HONOLULU C CAD A CAN

1:17:49MAT DISCUSSED REPORT T THE OUT

1:17:51FOR ADOPTION.

1:17:55WS OR NOs MEMBERS.

1:17:55CADCADIENTA VS. MATAELE.

1:17:58EL ANYONE ELSE.

1:17:59WE ARE ADJOURNED.

1:18:10>>(ADJOURNED).