2026-10-22 - Government Efficiency & Customer Services
Summary
Based on human-uploaded captions (uppercase, with some misheard names and numbers); the meeting ran from 2:34 to 3:23 p.m., remotely, with Chair Tyler Dos Santos-Tam presiding.
- Resolution 26-227 (accepts a gift of travel and related expenses valued at $3,000 from the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators so a Department of Customer Services representative can attend the AAMVA Region 4 meeting in Monterey, California, Dec. 1-2, 2026) had no questions and no testimony. The chair reported it out for adoption with no objection. See RES26-227 AAMVA Travel Gift.
- The Department of Budget and Fiscal Services gave a report on the Purchasing Division's procurement process improvement project, with consultants from Barry Dunn (Departmental Communication 660). See Procurement Process Improvement.
- Background: Mayor Rick Blangiardi set the challenge in 2024; a Procurement Improvement Working Group (PIWG) was formed that summer; the council funded ten added purchasing positions in FY26, all now filled (most hired by March).
- Early wins named: a higher small-purchase threshold, a bigger catalog of master agreements that departments order from without going through procurement, a contract-extension look-ahead portal (credited to Carrie Castle), a planned online "one-stop shop," and a procurement training plan and course catalog.
- Consultant findings: 72 challenges from six departments boiled down to 25, nine recommendations and four priorities: build capability through training (first, with the first modules released to departments in October), strengthen accountability and handoffs, create visibility through internal KPIs, and modernize technology strategically. An 18-month plan is meant to be flexible; technology work is the last phase and was described as taking six months to two years.
- Radiant Cordero asked how the 13 departments outside the six-department group, including those that procure through other agencies such as construction through the design and construction department, were reached. The consultants said about 12 virtual sessions and surveys with hundreds of responses covered other departments, and the whole lifecycle was studied. She also asked about re-bids; staff said a main cause is vague specifications as veteran staff retire, which the training targets.
- Matt Weyer asked about hiring and master agreements. Staff said hiring at the entry level with the one-day hiring process worked, and described a design and construction pilot of multi-award master agreements (five contractors per need, up to five years instead of two, delivery orders issued without procurement). The city now also buys buses and handi-vans through a Washington State cooperative agreement, and is joining a state master agreement for fire apparatus.
- Scott Nishimoto had no questions. No one testified on the report, and the committee adjourned with no vote needed on it.
Sources
- Video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6GxhQpl-prQ
- Agenda: https://hnldoc.ehawaii.gov/hnldoc/agenda/browse/749 (Resolution 26-227 and the briefing by Berry, Dunn, McNeil & Parker on the Department of Budget and Fiscal Services procurement process improvement project)
Video
Transcript
These are auto-generated captions; names and numbers may be misheard.
Transcript
03:48>>Chair Dos Santos-Tam: ALOHA
03:49AND GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
03:53IT'S 2:34 P.M.
03:54I CALL THE COMMITTEE ON
04:00GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY AND
04:02CUSTOMER SERVICES TO ORDER.
04:08PURSUANT TO SECTION 92-3.7,
04:09HAWAI'I REVISED STATUTES, THIS
04:10MEETING WILL BE CONDUCTED AS
04:10A REMOTE MEETING BY INTERACTIVE
04:11CONFERENCE TECHNOLOGY, WITH THE
04:11FOLLOWING PROCEDURES IN
04:12EFFECT FOR THE MEETING.
04:12MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE
04:13ALLOWED TO PROVIDE ORAL
04:14TESTIMONY ON ALL ITEMS
04:21AS BOTH ENGLISH AND HAWAIIAN ARE
04:22OFFICIAL LANGUAGES OF THE STATE
04:23OF HAWAI'I, PURSUANT TO ARTICLE
04:2315, SECTION 4 OF THE HAWAI'I
04:24STATE CONSTITUTION IN SECTION
04:251-13 OF THE HAWAI'I REVISED
04:26STATUTES, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
04:27MAY TESTIFY IN EITHER LANGUAGE.
04:29FOR ORAL TESTIMONIES OFFERED IN
04:31OLELO HAWAI'I, ADDITIONAL TIME
04:32MAY BE NECESSARY WILL BE ALLOWED
04:34FOR THE TESTIFIER TO PROVIDE AN
04:35ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF THEIR
04:37TESTIMONY.
04:42EACH PERSON SHALL STATE THEIR
04:44NAME.
04:44IS HE LIMITED TO A ONE-MINUTE
04:49PRESENTATION.
04:51PERSONS WHO HAVE NOT REGISTERED
04:53WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO
04:55TESTIFY FOLLOWING THE REGISTERED
04:58TESTIFIERS.
04:59ALL PERSONS WHO REGISTERED TO
05:01TESTIFY REMOTELY BY
05:02VIDEOCONFERENCE OR TELEPHONE
05:03WILL BE CALLED UPON.
05:05WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED,
05:07ACTIVATE YOUR AUD KNOW FEED WHEN
05:09PROFITED.
05:10PERSONS TESTIFYING BY PHONE
05:11ONLY, I'LL IDENTIFY YOU BY THE
05:13LAST THREE DIGITS OF YOUR
05:17NUMBER.
05:17WHEN YOU NUMBER IS CALLED, PRESS
05:18STAR 6.
05:20PERSONS WHO HAVE NOT REGISTERED
05:21TO TESTIFY WILL BE GIVEN THE
05:21OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY USING THE
05:22RAISE HAND FEATURE.
05:26THOSE JOINING US BY TELEPHONE,
05:29PRESS STAR 9 TO INDICATE YOUR
05:31DESIRE TO SPEAK.
05:32VIDEOCONFERENCE FROM A QUIET
05:34LOCATION IN POSSIBLE.
05:37WHEN THE TIMER ON SCREEN REACHES
05:40ZERO, PLEASE CONCLUDE PROMPTLY.
05:43HRS 92-3.7 REQUIRES ALL VOTES AT
05:48REMOTE MEETINGS BE CONDUCTED BY
05:49ROLL CALL UNLESS UNANIMOUS.
05:50THEREFORE, I WILL FIRST CALL FOR
05:50OBJECTIONS. IF THERE ARE ANY.
05:51I WILL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL
05:51VOTE.
05:52WRITTEN TESTIMONIES, INCLUDING
05:52THE TESTIFIER'S ADDRESS, E-MAIL
05:53ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER WILL BE
05:56AVAILABLE.
05:59AS A COURTESY, PLEASE TURN OFF
06:00ALL CELL PHONES.
06:01THANK YOU.
06:03SO MEMBERS, WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM
06:07ONE.
06:07RESOLUTION 26-227.
06:10ACCEPTS A GIFT TO THE
06:10CITY OF TRAVEL AND RELATED
06:11EXPENSES, VALUED AT $3,000, FROM
06:12THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF
06:13MOTOR VEHICLE ADMINISTRATORS
06:22FOR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE
06:22DEPARTMENT OF CUSTOMER SERVICES
06:23TO ATTEND THE 2026 AAMVA REGION
06:234 ADMINISTRATOR AND LAW
06:24ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS MEETING IN
06:25MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA
06:25FROM DECEMBER 1 ┘ 2, 2026.
06:28WITH HAVE WITH US IT'S PROGRAM
06:30ADMINISTRATOR.
06:31WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF CUSTOMER
06:37SERVICES.
06:38WILLIAM.
06:48>>Testifier: GOOD AFTERNOON.
06:50WILLIAM, DMV ADMINISTRATOR.
06:52I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY
06:54QUESTIONS.
06:54>>Chair Dos Santos-Tam:
06:55MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS
06:56RESOLUTION?
06:57OKAY.
06:58HEARING NONE, THANK YOU.
06:59WE'LL PROCEED WITH TESTIMONY.
07:01CLERKS, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE
07:03CHAMBERS OR REMOTELY STANDING BY
07:05TO TESTIFY?
07:06>>Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE
07:07NONE.
07:07>>Chair Dos Santos-Tam: OKAY.
07:08THERE BEING NONE WE'LL CLOSE
07:11TESTIMONY ON THIS.
07:12MEMBERS, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION.
07:13ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS AGENDA
07:15ITEM?
07:16HEARING NONE THE CHAIR RECOMMEND
07:18THAT'S RESOLUTION 20 HU 227 BE
07:19REPORTED OUT FOR ADOPTIONS.
07:21ANY DISCUSSION, OBJECTIONS OR
07:24RESERVATIONS, HEARING NONE SO
07:26ORDERED.
07:27ITEM TWO, A REPORT FROM THE
07:29DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET AND FISCAL
07:32SERVICES PROCURE PROCUREMENT PR.
07:43JOINING US.
07:44DAVID LEDBITTER JUNIOR AND
07:47ABIGAIL STAR, MANAGER, BERRY,
07:50DUNN, MCNEIL & PARKER, LLC.
07:51THE PRESENTATION IS AVAILABLE
07:53ONLINE AS DEPARTMENTAL
07:56COMMUNICATION 660.
08:02>>Testifier: GOOD AFTERNOON.
08:03MY NAME IS PAULA, AND I'M THE
08:06PURCHASING ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE
08:08CITY AND COUNTY OF HONOLULU.
08:10I WANTI WANT TO THANK YOU, CHAIS
08:11SANTOS-TAM FOR ALLOWING US TO
08:13COME HERE TODAY.
08:16ALSO THANK VICE CHAIR WEYER AND
08:17THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
08:19WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE
08:20TODAY TO PROVIDE YOU ALL AN
08:23UPDATE ON THE PURCHASING GIGS' -
08:29DIVISION'S PROCUREMENT PROCESS
08:33IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
08:34I'M JOINED BY THE DEPUTY
08:37DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND FISCAL
08:39SERVICES AS WELL AS MY ASSISTANT
08:44ADMINISTRATOR, KELSIE AND MR.
08:46DAVID LEDBITTER WHO WILL BE
08:50PRESENTING OUR IMPLEMENTATION
08:54STRATEGY AND BACKGROUND ON OUR
08:55PROJECT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR
08:57OVER A YEAR.
08:58I'LL START THE PRESENTATION
08:59TODAY.
09:00I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF
09:02HISTORY OF ALL THE WORK THAT
09:05WE'VE DONE ON OUR IMPROVEMENT
09:08PROJECTS SINCE THE MAYOR KIND OF
09:09SET FORTH THAT CHALLENGE TO US
09:11BACK IN 2024.
09:12AS WELL AS ALMOST A LITTLE
09:16PROCUREMENT 101.
09:16SO I CAN INTRODUCE KIND OF THE
09:19LEGAL FRAMEWORK OF THE
09:19PROCUREMENT CODE, WHY WE HAVE
09:21THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT
09:23WE DO, AND KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF
09:26A TYPICAL WORK FLOW OF A PROJECT
09:28THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS
09:31BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO MR.
09:34LEDBITTER.
09:35THANK YOU AGAINST.
09:39SO OUR PROCUREMENT IMPROVEMENT
09:41INITIATIVES STARTED IN THE
09:43CUSTOMER OF 2024.
09:45WHEN MAYOR BLANGIARDI TURNED A
09:47KEEN EYE TO THE CITY'S
09:49CENTRALIZED PURCHASING DIVISION.
09:50WHAT HE SAW WHEN HE LOOKED AT
09:52THAT DIVISION WAS AN IMPORTANT
09:54GROUP OF STAFF MEMBERS WHO
09:57SERVED OVER 20 DEPARTMENTS IN
09:59THE CITY BUT PLAGUED WITH
10:01CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS THAT WERE
10:03IMPACTING EFFICIENT CITY
10:05OPERATIONS.
10:05THE MAYOR'S VISION WAS TO SOLVE
10:07THIS WICKED PROBLEM AND
10:10PRIORITIZE SYSTEM SOLUTIONS TO
10:13LONGSTANDING PROCUREMENT ISSUES
10:13INCLUDE A PROCUREMENT PROCESS
10:16THAT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY LONG.
10:20SO THAT SUMMER, THE PROCUREMENT
10:22IMPROVEMENT WORKING GROUP WAS
10:24ESTABLISHED.
10:25THAT WORKING GROUP'S MANDATE WAS
10:26TO REVIEW PROCUREMENT WORK FLOW
10:32PROCESSES, 308 -- POLICIES,
10:36PROCEDURES.
10:36STREAMLINE FOR GREATER
10:38EFFICIENCY PRODUCTIVITY.
10:40WORKING ON IDENTIFYING
10:42CHALLENGES, ROOT CLAUSES OF
10:43PROCUREMENT DELAYS.
10:44THAT EARLY WORK BY THE
10:46PROCUREMENT IMPROVEMENT WORKING
10:48GROUP RESULTED AND LED TO TEN
10:51ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS
10:52PROGRAMMED FOR OUR FY 26.
11:00ALL TEB TEN ARE WORKING IN OUR
11:04DEPARTMENT TODAY..
11:05WE TOOK THAT CONFIDENCE YOU
11:07PLACED WITH US AND GOT THE STAFF
11:09LEVEL CAPACITIES UP IN RECORD
11:11TIME.
11:11STAFFING WASN'T ONE OF SEVERAL
11:15INITIATIVES THAT THE WORKING
11:16GROUP PUT FORWARD THAT LED TO
11:18EARLY WINS FOR US.
11:19THE PAST YEAR RESULTED IN
11:22NUMEROUS ACCOMPLISHMENTS INCLUDE
11:24SOME OF THE FOLLOWING.
11:26ONE, INCREASE TO THE SMALL
11:28PURCHASE THRESHOLD THAT ALLOWS
11:31DEPARTMENTS GREATER AUTONOMY
11:34OVER ONE HUNDRED PLUS
11:36TRANSACTIONS FROM THE
11:36PROCUREMENT WORK FLOW.
11:38AND EXPANDINGED CATALOG OF READY
11:42MADE MASTER AGREEMENT.
11:44ISSUE DELIVERY ORDERS FOR NEEDS
11:46GOOD AND SERVICES WITHOUT HAVING
11:48TO GO THROUGH PROCUREMENT.
11:53WE ALSO ENGAGED IN TARGETED
11:57ENGAGEMENT OF PROCUREMENT
11:59AUTHORITY.
12:00THE DEPARTMENT'S AUTHORITY TO
12:03PROCEED WITHOUT APPROVAL WITHOUT
12:08MANY --
12:09PROCEED WITHOUT DEPARTMENT'S
12:13APPROVAL WITHOUT TRANSACTIONS.
12:14THE BRAINCHILD OF CARRY CASTLE.
12:19THE PORTAL HAS BEEN A GAME
12:21CHANGER BUS
12:22CHANGE BECAUSE IT PROVIDES
12:25DEPARTMENTS LOOK AHEADS FROM UP
12:27TO SIX TO NINE MONTHS IN ADVANCE
12:29TO ENSURE THAT THEY GET TIMELY
12:32CONTRACT EXTENSIONS IN PLACE
12:33WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH
12:36THAT EFFORT OF DOING A TWO-STEP
12:38PROCESS TO GET THAT UP AND
12:40MOVING AGAIN.
12:41ALSO NEW ITEM THAT WE'VE BEEN
12:42WORKING ON WITHIN THE LAST SIX
12:44MONTHS THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF
12:46IS WHAT I CALL THE PROCUREMENT
12:49ONE-STOP SHOP.
12:51AN ONLINE CENTRAL LOCATION FOR
12:52EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT WILL NEED
12:54TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN PROCURING
12:56GOOD IS SERVICES A WUL ALL THE S
13:01THEY NEED IN ORDER TO MOVE
13:03FORWARD IN ONE PLACE.
13:04WE'RE ALSO DEVELOPING AND HAVE
13:07STARTED WORKING ON A PROCUREMENT
13:10TRAINING PLAN AND COURSE
13:12CATALOG.
13:12THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO
13:14PROVIDE DEPARTMENTS WITH
13:17STANDARDIZED PROCUREMENT
13:17TRAINING TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE
13:19ALL ON THE SAME PAGE GOING
13:21FORWARD.
13:22BUT WITH ALL OF THESE
13:25ACCOMPLISHMENTS, THE TRUE
13:26CAPSTONE OF WHAT WE'VE ACLOSED
13:28TO THIS DATE WAS DURING THE LAST
13:30YEAR WHEN WE ENGAGED WITH AN
13:32INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY
13:33CONSULTANT TO PERFORM THE
13:37PROCUREMENT ENCOURAGEMENT
13:38PROCESS PROJECT.
13:40ENGAGEED GARY DN.
13:44WILL LAUNCH OUR TRANSFORMATIVE
13:46CHANGE THAT'S YET TO COME.
13:51SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE
13:53NOW BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO
13:56BARRY DUNN TO EXPLAIN WHY MANY
13:59OF THE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES
14:01THAT WE DO HAVE IF PLACE, WHY
14:04THAT'S IMPORTANT AND WHY IT KIND
14:07OF GOVERNS A LOT OF THE THINGS
14:10THAT WE DO.
14:11REALLY, THIS PROCESS IS ONE THAT
14:14IS A LEGISLATIVE CREATION, AND
14:16THE STATE AND CITY LEGISLATIVE
14:19BODIES HAVE BEEN VERY CONCERNED
14:21ABOUT PROTECTING PUBLIC FUNDS,
14:22AND THEY'VE SET UP A STRICT
14:25LEGAL FRAMEWORK THAT GOVERNS HOW
14:29PUBLIC FUNDS CAN BE EXPENDED.
14:33THE HAWAI'I REVISED STATUTES
14:34WHICH CLEARLY MANDATES EXACTLY
14:36HOW WE CAN EXPEND PUBLIC FUNDS
14:39AND THE LAWS AND GUARDRAILS THAT
14:41ARE SET IN PLACE TO ENSURE IT'S
14:44DONE IN AN ETHICAL MANNER.
14:48PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE
14:49HAWAI'I REVISED STATUTES AND THE
14:51ONE THAT FEED DIRECTLY INTO THE
14:53PROCEDURES THAT WE MUST FOLLOW
14:56ARE THE HAWAI'I ADMINISTRATIVE
14:57RULES.
14:59THOSE RULES MANDATE EXACTLY HOW
15:01PUBLIC PROCUREMENT SHALL BE
15:06CONDUCTED.
15:10MUST BE POSTED AND THINGS OF
15:12THAT NATURE.
15:14SO ABOUT 90 PEST OF THE -- 90% E
15:17PROCEDURES WE HAVE IN PLACE ARE
15:18A DIRECT RESULT OF THE HAWAI'I
15:21ADMINISTRATIVE RULES.
15:22AND THAT'S NOT ALL.
15:24WE ALSO HAVE CITY CHARTER,
15:28ORDINANCES AND POLICIES AND
15:29PROCEDURES THAT PLAY INTO HOW WE
15:32CONDUCT PUBLIC PROCUREMENT.
15:34THIS LEGAL FRAMEWORK ENSURES
15:36THAT PUBLIC EMPLOYEES ARE
15:38ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEY PURCHASE
15:39ANYTHING WITH PUBLIC FUNDS
15:40BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR MONEY.
15:41WE'RE THE TRUSTEES OF PUBLIC
15:44FUNDS.
15:45LAW MANDATES NOTICES TO PUBLIC
15:48BID OPPORTUNITIES, OPEN RECORDS
15:50AND A TRANSPARENT PROCESS THAT
15:52MUST BE FOLLOWED.
15:55AND PROVIDES A FAIR AND LEVEL
15:57PLAYING FIELD FOR EVERYONE.
15:58THIS IS THE FRAMEWORK THAT
16:02GILESS MANY OF PROCESSES AND
16:04PROCEDURES WE REVIEWED AS PART
16:06OF THIS PROCESS.
16:08THIS LAST SLIDE IS WHAT I
16:11CALL -- I PUT IS IT UP THERE AS
16:13A TYPICAL FLOW OF A PROJECT AND
16:16THE PROCESSES THAT IT HAS TO GO
16:17THROUGH.
16:17I CALL IT A PROCUREMENT LIFE
16:21CYCLE BECAUSE IT'S A PROCESS
16:23THAT TAKES PLACE WHEN ANY GOODS,
16:27SERVICES OR CONSTRUCTIONS ARE
16:29CONDUCTED IN THE CITY.
16:30WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE FROM THE
16:32CHART IS IT IS NOT JUST A
16:34PURCHASING DIVISION FUNCTION,
16:35AND IT'S ONE THAT INVOLVES THE
16:38DEPARTMENT'S AND PROCUREMENT
16:39DIVISION WORKING TOGETHER TO GET
16:41THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
16:43IT STARTS VERY EARLY ON WHEN THE
16:45DEPARTMENT FIGURES OUT THAT
16:47WHATEVER CHARTER FUNCTION THAT
16:48THEY HAVE TO FULFILL, IF THEY'RE
16:52UP ABLE TO SELF-PERFORM THAT OR
16:55CREATE WHATEVER IT -- THEY NEED
16:56TO GET THE JOB DONE, THEN THEY
16:58DO HAVE TO DETERMINE IF THEY'RE
16:59GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND
17:01PROCURE THAT GOOD SERVICES AND
17:03CONSTRUCTION.
17:04SO IT STARTS VERY EARLY ON FROM
17:06IDENTIFYING THE NEEDS TO GOING
17:09OUT, ESTABLISHING WHAT THE NEED
17:11LOOKS LIKE, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE
17:13DETERMINED AND HOW IT'S GOING TO
17:16BE SET FORTH AND SCOPE OF WORK
17:20OR SPECIFICATION THAT IS
17:21MARKETABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
17:23SECURING THE BUDGET TO FUND
17:26THAT.
17:26THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO GO INTO
17:29MARKET RESEARCH AND GET ENOUGH
17:31INFORMATION TO ESTABLISH AN
17:34ESTIMATE FOR ONE FOR THE
17:36BUDGETING BUT ALSO FOR THE LATER
17:38ON FOR THE CONTRACT AWARDS TO
17:42INCOME BELL THOSE FUNDS.
17:44IT COMES INTO THE PURCHASING
17:47SHOP WHERE WE WILL THEN TRIGGER
17:49IN THAT PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT
17:52I JUST REIT RAILED TO YOU ALL,
17:55AND WE WILL DRAFT THE
17:56SOLICITATION, POST THAT TO THE
17:58PUBLIC.
17:59DO THE PUBLIC BID OPENINGS AND
18:01THEN AWARD AND EXECUTE THE
18:03CONTRACTS.
18:03AND AFTER THAT, THE CONTRACT
18:06ITSELF HAS ITS OWN FLOW WHERE
18:08THE DEPARTMENTS WILL HAVE TO
18:11ADMINISTER THAT CONTRACT AND
18:12CLOSE IT OUT BEFORE THE WHOLE
18:14LIFE CYCLE ENDS.
18:15SO THAT IS THE ENTIRE PROCESS
18:18THAT WE CHARGE BARRY DUNN TO
18:21LOOK AT.
18:22TO SEE WHERE WE HAVE
18:24EFFICIENCIES NOT JUST IN THE
18:25PURCHASING DIVISION BUT ACROSS
18:27THE ENTIRE PROCUREMENT LIFE
18:29CYCLE TO SEE WHAT BENEFITS WE
18:31COULD REAP.
18:33SO NOW I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE
18:36BARRY LEDBITTER OUR
18:40IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY AND ROAD
18:43MAP FOR THE FUTURE SAID OF
18:45PUBLIC PROCUREMENT FOR THE CITY.
18:50>>Testifier: GOOD AFTERNOON,
18:53DAVID LEDBITTER, BARRY DUNN.
18:57IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT, TO TALK
18:58ABOUT IT FROM AN OVERALL TIME
19:01LINE PERSPECTIVE, WE STARTED
19:02ABOUT A YEAR AGO WITH OUR
19:04CONTRACT.
19:04ABOUT A YEAR AGO IN OCTOBER, WE
19:06CAME OUT AND DID A PROJECT
19:09PLANNING SESSION.
19:11MET THE WORKING GROUP AND
19:12STARTED TO DIAL IN HOW WE WOULD
19:14APPROACH OUR STATEMENT OF WORK.
19:16WE LOOKED A THAT.
19:17THE STATEMENT OF WORK, I'LL GO
19:20THROUGH BRIEFLY.
19:22THE VERY FIRST STEP WAS TO
19:25ASSESS THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT.
19:26WHEN WE LOOK AT ENVIRONMENTS
19:28LIKE THAT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
19:30WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYTHING THAT
19:32TOUCHES TECHNOLOGY, PEOPLE AND
19:33PROCESS AS WELL AS POLICY.
19:35THAT'S KIND OF BEEN THE
19:37FRAMEWORK THAT WE USE.
19:38COMING OUT WITH A TEAM DURING
19:41THE HOLIDAYS IN DECEMBER, WE MET
19:43WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE
19:47PIWAG AS WELL AS PURCHASING
19:48SEPARATELY.
19:49IDEA WAS TO ANALYZE EVERYTHING
19:51WE COULD GET OUR HANDS ON,
19:53WHETHER IT WAS A FORM THAT WAS
19:55PROCESSED, TOOLS AND TECHNOLOGY
19:56USED IN PLACE.
19:57WHEN WE WENT OUT TO THE
19:59DEPARTMENTS, WE WERE ASKING FOR
20:01SPECIFIC EXAMPLES AND GETTING A
20:05GRANULAR LEVEL OF DETAIL.
20:08KNOWING THAT WHEN IT COMES DOWN
20:10TO THINGS, CHANGING POLICY OR
20:13TECHNOLOGY OR JUST A PROCEDURE
20:15ISN'T GOING TO BE
20:17TRANSFORMATIONAL.
20:18IT'S GOING TO BE A COMBINATION
20:19AS WE GO THROUGH.
20:21POP THROUGH UPON FINISHING
20:23THAT, WE SWITCHED FROM THE
20:24CURRENT ENVIRONMENT VIEW TO HOW
20:26CAN WE DO THIS LOOKING FORWARD?
20:28WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO MEETING
20:30WITH INDIVIDUAL GROUPS, WE HEARD
20:32A LOT OF CHALLENGES.
20:34WE DOCUMENTED I THINK ACROSS THE
20:37SIX DEPARTMENTS, 72 UNIQUE
20:38CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR
20:39CHANGE OR IMPROVEMENT.
20:40WITH THOSE, WE FOUND
20:43COMMONALITIES BETWEEN THE
20:44DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND BOILED
20:46IT DOWN TO 25.
20:48THESE 25 CHALLENGES AND
20:48OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT
20:49SERVE AS THE BASIS GOING FORWARD
20:52FOR WHAT WE LOOKED AT, HOW COULD
20:54WE IMPROVE THESE.
20:57LOOKING AND DEFINING WHAT THE
20:58NEXT PHASE OF PROCUREMENTS GOING
21:01TO LOOK LIKE, WE USE THOSE AS
21:04THE BASIS.
21:05WE MET WITH THIS GROUP.
21:08TO GET TO THE ACTION PLAN WE'RE
21:10GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.
21:12IT'S ROOTED IN THE CHANGE THAT
21:14WE DISCUSSED DURING THAT FIRST
21:16WEEK.
21:17SOME OF THE ARTIFACTS OR REPORTS
21:19THAT WE CREATED ON OUR BEHALF.
21:22I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH
21:23AND EVERY ONE TO SAVE TIME HERE.
21:26WE DID DOCUMENT EVERYTHING IN
21:28THAT CURRENTLY ENVIRONMENT AND
21:30ASSESSMENT REPORT.
21:32THE CHALLENGES FROM THE
21:34DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE AS WELL
21:36AS PURCHASING'S PERSPECTIVE, AND
21:37THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR GOING
21:39FORWARD.
21:40WE LOOK AT THAT FUTURE STATE
21:42PLANNING MEMO.
21:43THIS IS TAKING A LOOK AT WE CAME
21:46UP WITH NINE DIFFERENT
21:49RECOMMENDATIONS FOR TAKING INTO
21:50CONSIDERATION IF THERE WAS
21:52NOTHING OFF THE TABLE, WHAT
21:53WOULD IT TAKE TO IMPROVE THE
21:55FUTURE STATE?
21:57IN THOSE -- AT THE SAME TIME, WE
22:00WENT OUT TO THE MARKET ON THE
22:02BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE A PROCUREMENT
22:05TECHNOLOGY RFI RESEARCH SUMMARY.
22:08WE LOOKED AT SPECIFIC AREAS OF
22:11FUNCTIONALITY.
22:11WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE TOOLS
22:13AND TECHNOLOGIES USED, YOU
22:14THINK.
22:15ERP SYSTEM, IN THIS CHASE CHURCH
22:18IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO.
22:20AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER
22:22MANUAL FORMS IN PLACE.
22:24AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
22:28APPLICATIONS ABOVE AND BEYOND
22:30ERP FUNCTIONALITY, THAT'S WHAT
22:33WE TRIED TO TARGET.
22:35IT'S OFTEN ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT
22:38THE CURRENT MARKET OFFERS.
22:42TARGET IMPLEMENT TIME LINESST
22:45COSTS AND WHAT FUTURES AND
22:47FUNCTIONALITY FOR A CONTRACT
22:50FIVE CYCLE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
22:53SO FOLKS WOULD HAVE AN IDEA OF
22:54WHAT THAT TECHNOLOGY COULD LOOK
22:56LIKE IN A FUTURE ENVIRONMENT.
22:58ALL OF THESE FACTORED INTO WHAT
23:00WE DID TO REALLY WORK ON
23:03PRIORITY TIEING THE FUTURE
23:04STATE.
23:05MENTIONING THAT FUTURE STATE
23:06PLANNING MEMO WITH BROKE THE
23:08NINE RECOMMENDATIONS AND GOT
23:10INTO WHAT WE CALL FOUR VISIONING
23:12SESSION THAT'S WERE LOOKING AT
23:13FOUR DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS FOR
23:15IMPROVEMENT FOR THE FUTURE STATE
23:17AND BOILING HOW WE CAN GET THE
23:19PRIORITIES TO GET THE ONES THAT
23:20THE CITY FOUND MOSH MOST BENEFI.
23:26WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKING SURE
23:28THEY'RE UNIFIED AND ALIGNED
23:32GOING FORWARD.
23:33WHEN LOOK AT FOUR INDIVIDUAL
23:35AREAS THAT WE HAVE, LOOKING AT
23:37THIS GRAPHIC, YOU HAVE IN FRONT
23:40OF YOU, THE FIRST ONE THAT CAME
23:42IS BUILDING PROCUREMENT
23:44CAPABILITY THROUGH TRAINING AND
23:46KNOWLEDGE MANAGEMENT.
23:48THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY,
23:51ATS THE VOICE FOR ALL OTHER
23:53CHANGE THAT COMES TO FOLLOW.
23:55ONE OF THE THINGS WE NOTICED WAS
23:59QUITE FRANKLY, WE WOULD HEAR WE
24:01DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
24:02WE'RE NOT PROCUREMENT EXPERTS.
24:05WE KNEAD TOWE NEED TO GET OUR JD
24:10THIS IS WHAT'S IN THE WAY.
24:13FROM THE WORKING GROUP CHARGED
24:15US WITH GETTING AHEAD IN OUR
24:18WORK PLAN SAYING, CAN YOU HELP
24:21US?
24:22I'M HAPPY TO REPORT WE'RE
24:24ALREADY DEVELOPING AND HAVE
24:25DELIVERED SOME OF THIS TRAINING.
24:28IT'S BEING RELEASED TO
24:29DEPARTMENTS IN THIS MONTH.
24:31WE ARE AHEAD THERE.
24:33A BIG KEY PART OF THIS IS WHEN
24:37YOU START HEARING ABOUT LAWS AND
24:41THINGS THAT GO ABOVE PEOPLE'S
24:47HEAD.
24:48I'VE GOT A 13-YEAR OLD AT HOME,
24:50WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT NEW
24:54WORKFORCE, THEY'RE RAISED ON A
24:57TIKTOK ENVIRONMENT.
24:59WHEN YOU HAND HIM A PROCUREMENT
25:01BOOK, THEY GO, I DON'T KNOW
25:02WHERE TO START.
25:04THEY GET PEOPLE TO THE POINT AND
25:06GET THEM THROUGH TO THEIR DAY
25:08JOBS.
25:10NEXT AREA, STRENGTHENING
25:14ACCOUNTABILITY.
25:15TRAINING ITSELF IS REALLY
25:18GETTING THE MONTHS IN FRONT OF
25:21THEM.
25:21WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OWNERSHIP IN
25:23TERMS.
25:24HANDOFF.
25:24AS A DEPARTMENT DO I UNDERSTAND
25:25WHAT MY RESPONSIBILITY IS FOR
25:27THIS PART OF THE PROCESS AND I
25:29HAND OFF?
25:31WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE
25:32GOVERNANCE AROUND THAT IN TERMS
25:34OF MAKING SURE FOLKS KNOW THIS
25:36IS WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE OF COMPLETE
25:38WORK SO WE'RE GETTING CONSISTENT
25:43QUALITY.
25:44WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CREATING
25:47VISIBILITY, ONE OF THE AREAS
25:49THAT CAME CAME UP, KEY PERFORM
25:54INDICATORS.
25:55IN TERMS OF WE STARTED HEARING
25:57FROM FOLKS ABOUT WHAT WAS
25:59IMPORTANT FOR MAYBE A SPECIFIC
26:00SITUATION.
26:01WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE
26:03HEARING WITH KPI IS GLOBAL.
26:09INITIALLY WHAT CAME UP WAS AN
26:12EMPHASIS ON INTERNAL TRANSITIONS
26:14TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HOLDING
26:16EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE FOR
26:18INTERNAL TIME LINES AND WE'RE
26:19SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS FOR
26:21BEGINNING TO END IN A LOT OF
26:23THESE PROCUREMENT METHODS.
26:25THIS IS ONE AREA THAT WE'LL TALK
26:27MORE ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO
26:29BE DEVELOPED AND WHERE FUTURE
26:30WORK WILL GO.
26:32THE LAST IS TO MODERNIZE OUR
26:36TECHNOLOGY THROUGH PRECISE
26:38STRATEGY.
26:39OFTEN TIMES WE THINK IF OUR
26:41SYSTEMS ARE BAD, REPLACING THE
26:44SYSTEM IS GOING TO CREATE A TON
26:47OF IMPROVEMENT.
26:49WE WANT TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT
26:51WHAT TECHNOLOGY WE'RE LOOKING AT
26:53TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT
26:54IMMEDIATELY OUTDATED BY A NEW
26:56SYSTEM THAT'S IMPLEMENTED,
26:58WHETHER IT'S ERPO SOMETHING
27:00ELSE.
27:00AND MAKE SURE THAT THE VALUE CAN
27:03BE REALIZED QUICKER.
27:06IT CAN TAKE AS LITTLE AS SIX
27:08MONTHS OR AS MUCH AS 18 TO 24
27:14MONTHS.
27:14SO AS WE LOOK AT FOUR DIFFERENT
27:17CAPABILITIES THAT WE MENTIONED,
27:20THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE TALKS
27:20ABOUT WHERE WE STARTED AND WHAT
27:22THE VALUE IS.
27:24I WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT AND I AM
27:26GOING TO HIGHLIGHT TWO AREAS.
27:32PALAPAULA HIGHLIGHTED.
27:33WHERE IT STARTED, THE WAY THIS
27:36WORKING GROUP HAS COME TOGETHER
27:37THE LAST YEAR TO BE ABLE TO
27:40BECOME ALIGNED ON TOPICS THAT
27:43WERE DIFFICULT TO DISCUSS AT
27:44FIRST AND WHERE THEY COME IS
27:46PROBABLY THE MOST EXCITING THING
27:48ABOUT THIS.
27:49WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE
27:53TURNING MATERIAL, A TWO HOUR
27:54WORK SHOVE
27:57SHOP THEY FELT WOULD BRING A
28:00DIRECT IMPACT TO THEM.
28:04I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT, WE'RE
28:07THREE OF THE WAY THROUGH AND
28:09HOPEFULLY AT THE END OF THE
28:12MONTH, FIVE.
28:13WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE BOTTOM
28:15ONE WITH THE MODERNIZING
28:19STRATEGICALLY, WE WANTED TO BUCK
28:22ABOUT INTEGRATED LOWER RISK
28:24MODERNIZATION.
28:24I HIGHLIGHTED THIS A LITTLE BIT
28:26PREVIOUSLY, BUT THE AREA THAT WE
28:27WANT TO MAKE SURE OF IS THE
28:30SYSTEMS THAT WE LOOKED AT ARE
28:34TYPICALLY AGNOSTIC TO THE ERP
28:37SYSTEM.
28:37IF YOU IMPLEMENTED A A LIFE CYCE
28:43TODAY, IF YOU CHANGE IT FIVE
28:45YEARS FROM NOW, TEN YEARS, IT
28:47CAN BE IN PLACE.
28:49THAT WAY WE CAN SEE REALIZATION
28:53ON INVESTMENT A LITTLE BIT
28:56QUICKER.
28:57SOME OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS IN
29:00TERMS OF THAT BUILDING
29:02PROCUREMENT CAPABILITY.
29:04I MENTIONED LIVING IN A TICK TOG
29:06WORLD.
29:08MAKE SURE FOLKS CAN UNDERSTAND.
29:14AS WE'RE TALKING DEPARTMENTS,
29:16THE LEVEL OF NEW STAFF WAS
29:18DIFFERENT ACROSS THE BOARD OF
29:19THES THAT WA ANOTHER CHARGE TO
29:21ASK, HOW CAN WE MAKE ONBOARDING
29:26CONSISTENT?
29:26WE BUILT OUTLINES SO PEOPLE
29:29RESPECT BUILDING THINGS OFF A
29:32DESKTOP.
29:32IN THIS DEPARTMENT I GO OFF
29:35THIS.
29:35THIS IS WHAT MY PEOPLE GET AND
29:37IT'S DIRT DIFFERENT IN DEPARTME.
29:43THIS IS -- I HIT ON IT PRETTY
29:45WELL.
29:45JUST THAT CONSTANT EVOLUTION
29:47THAT WE CAN SAY THAT AN
29:49IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WE'RE HOPE
29:50IS DONE IN 18 MONTHS.
29:52BUT THE GOAL IS CONTINUOUS
29:55IMPROVEMENT.
29:55IT'S GOING TO BE CONSTANTLY
29:57EVOLVING.
29:58THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET
30:00TO THERE.
30:02WITH PHASE 3, IT'S NOT ONLY
30:06LEVERAGING THE TECHNOLOGY TO
30:07ACTUALLY DO THAT BUT WHAT IS
30:10MEANINGFUL TO THE ORGANIZATION
30:11AS A WHOLE.
30:13AND OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS,
30:15WE'RE GOING TO HONE IN ON SOME
30:17OF THESE AND WHAT OUR SYSTEMS IN
30:18PLACE AS WELL AS THE FUTURE
30:20SYSTEMS WE'RE LOOKING AT.
30:22WHAT CAN WE MEASURE?
30:27LASTLY, ON PHASE 4, YOU'LL
30:29NOTICE WHERE IT SAYS ASSESS ERP
30:32NEEDS AND TECHNOLOGY OPTIONS.
30:34I WON'T GO TOO FAR INTO THIS.
30:39WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE
30:40INTEGRATION IS AS SEAMLESS AS IT
30:43CAN BE.
30:44AND SYSTEMS ARE READY FOR CHANGE
30:46AS WELL.
30:46IN TERMS OF DEFINING CLEAR
30:49REQUIREMENTS WITH NEEDS OF THAT
30:52NATURE.
30:55ININ TERMS OF AN OVERALL TIME
31:00LINE, I'M PRETTY SURE EVERYONE
31:01IN THIS ROOM HAS BEEN A PART OF
31:03SOME TIME OF IMPROVEMENT PLAN
31:05WHERE YOU'RE GIVEN A SERIES OF
31:07INSTRUCTION AND HERE'S HOW YOU
31:08CAN CREATE A BETTER FUTURE
31:10STATE.
31:11THE PLANS LOOKS REALLY GOOD AND
31:13IT JUST SITS THERE.
31:15WE TRY TO MAKE IT AS DYNAMIC AS
31:17WE CAN WHEN IT COMES TO
31:19FLEXIBILITY.
31:23AN OVERALL 18 MONTH PLAN, BUT
31:25THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE
31:26CAN INITIATIVE PARTS EARLIER.
31:28FOR EXAMPLE, THAT PHASE 4,
31:32TECHNOLOGY.
31:32AS THE ORGANIZATION IS READY TO
31:35IMPLEMENT DIFFERENT PORTIONS
31:36BASED ON WHETHER IT'S FUNDING OR
31:39STAFF CAPACITY TO TAKE ON THIS
31:41LEVEL OF CHANGE IT HAS THE
31:43CAPACITY TO TAKE THAT ON EARLIER
31:44IN THE PROJECT.
31:46AS WELL AS WE WANTED TO START
31:49WITH THAT TRAINING PORTION OF
31:50THE PRO PORTION FIRST BECAUSE IS
31:53UNDERWAY AND WE CAN FINE-TUNE IT
31:55AS WE GO.
31:57WE TOOK A NATURAL PROGRESS THAT
32:01ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBLE SEQUENCE.
32:05WE FELT THAT WAILINGS THAT WAS ,
32:08KNOWING THAT CITY PRIORITIES
32:11CHANGE ON ONGOING BASIS.
32:13AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
32:15BUILT FOR THAT.
32:16AS WE GET TO THE CONCLUSION
32:19HERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
32:20WANTS TO THINK ABOUT,
32:22ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGE MANAGEMENT
32:24IS EXTREMELY CRITICAL IN EVERY
32:25THAT WE DO.
32:27TALK ABOUT ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGE
32:29MANAGEMENT, THE PEOPLE SIDE OF
32:32CHANGE.
32:32WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A PROCESS
32:35THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR 35
32:37YEARS, WE'VE HEARD THINGS LIKE
32:3935 YEARS OF BAD PRACTICE.
32:40I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT.
32:4235 YEARS OF HABITS, AND YOU'RE
32:44TRYING TO UNDO THAT.
32:46SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING YOU'RE
32:47GOING TO BE TAKING 18 MONTHS TO
32:49UNDO THAT.
32:50OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING, YOU CAN
32:52GET THAT DONE IN IT 18 MONTH.
32:56THAT'S OUR GOAL.
32:58THE PROGRESS FROM THE PIWG IS A
33:02GROUP, ON EVERY MEETING, WE
33:05DON'T ALWAYS AGREE AND WE HAVE
33:07HAD TO COME BACK TO THE TABLE.
33:09JUST THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE MADE
33:11IN THE LAST YEAR, I KNOW IN
33:14TERMS OF A ROAD MAP TO SUCCESS,
33:16WE'VE STARTED THE ACTION PLAN
33:18THAT WE'RE TALKING TODAY.
33:19SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
33:22INITIATIVES TO HAVE ONE DRIVING
33:25CHANGE, AND WE'RE WELL UNDERWAY.
33:28I HURRIED WITH TIME, BUT I'D
33:33LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR
33:35QUESTIONS.
33:35>>Chair Dos Santos-Tam:
33:36QUESTION?
33:38COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO DMOR THANK
33:41>>Councilmember Cordero:.
33:42THANK YOU AS WELL AS PAULA AND
33:48THE PERMITTED WORKING
33:50INTERACTION GROUP.
33:51IT'S SIX DEPARTMENTS OUT OF 19
33:53THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND SO
33:56WHICH LEADS ME TO ASK, THERE ARE
33:59A LOT OF -- A FEW AGENCIES THAT
34:04ARE DIRECTED BY OTHER
34:05DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.
34:08AND WHAT METHODOLOGY ARE YOU
34:11PLANNING TO USE TO ADDRESS THAT?
34:15BECAUSE THERE'S DEPARTMENTS THAT
34:17DO THE DIRECT WORK AND
34:19CREDIBILITY PROCUREMENT WHILE
34:21OTHER ONES HAVE TO GO THROUGH
34:24TWO OTHER POSSIBLE CLIENT AGENCY
34:27OR CLIENT DEPARTMENTS TO DO
34:28THEIR PROCUREMENT WORK.
34:30SORRY, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
34:35>>Testifier: PERFECT SENSE.
34:36WE ENCOURAGE WITH EVERY
34:38DEPARTMENT AT THAT CURRENT
34:40ENVIRONMENT ASSESSMENT REPORT.
34:40THE WAY WE DID THAT, WE REACHED
34:44OUT THROUGH A VARIETY OF SURVEYS
34:46THAT TARGETED DIFFERENT GROUPS,
34:48AND THEY WERE ONE GROUP.
34:51WE FOCUSED ON THE PIWG
34:53DEPARTMENT.
34:54HOWEVER, I BELIEVE WE HAD 12
34:57VIRTUAL SESSIONS THAT INCLUDED
34:59THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
35:00WHETHER OR NOT WE HIT ALL 19,
35:03I'M NOT SURE THEY WERE ALL
35:04REPRESENTED BUT IT WAS CLOSE.
35:07THE RESPONSE, WE GO, AND WE'RE
35:09TALKING HUNDREDS OF RESPONSE,
35:11I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE
35:14TO YOU.
35:15PAULA HAS ONE THING TO ADD.
35:17>>Councilmember Cordero: GO
35:20AHEAD.
35:20>>Testifier: I THINK WHAT
35:21YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT
35:23DYNAMIC WITH PEOPLE THAT MAYBE
35:25NEED TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION DONE
35:26THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH DDC OR
35:29SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
35:30>>Councilmember Cordero:
35:31EXACTLY WHAT I'M ASKING.
35:32I DIDN'T WANT TO PINPOINT A
35:34CERTAIN DEPARTMENT.
35:35>>Testifier: I THINK THAT WHAT
35:37IS SO CRITICAL AND WHAT IS VERY
35:39EXCITE BEING WHAT BARRY DUNN HAS
35:42DONE WITH THIS IS TO LOOK AT THE
35:44ENTIRE LIFE CYCLE.
35:46SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHY YOU HAVE
35:48TO KIND OF SPAN OUT A LITTLE BIT
35:50AND LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS THAT
35:53ARE HAPPENING WITHIN FROM THE
35:55TIME THE NEED IS IDENTIFIED.
35:56I AM A DEPARTMENT THAT NEEDS TO
35:59HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW, A SHELTER
36:01RECONSTRUCTED OR SOMETHING LIKE
36:03THAT.
36:04AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING
36:05EARLY IN THOSE PHASE.
36:08WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE
36:11PROCESSES.
36:11WHAT ARE GETTING IN THE WAY AND
36:13LOOKING AT IMPROVING THOSE.
36:14IN A WAY, THAT ONE YEAR IS WHAT
36:18WE'RE WINDING UP NOW.
36:20AND IT'S ONE THING TO FOCUS ON
36:23THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS ITSELF,
36:25BUT ONCE WE DID THE SURVEYS,
36:29WHEN YOU SPAN OUT, IT IS THE
36:32LIFE CYCLE THAT HAS NUMEROUS
36:35AREAS THAT CAN CAUSE THE DELAYS
36:37AND FRUSTRATION.
36:41KIND OF THE BACK AND FORTH AND
36:43ANIMOSITY THAT SOMETIMES YOU
36:44GUYS SEE.
36:47THAT'S WHERE I THINK THIS HAS
36:48BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
36:49>>Councilmember Cordero: AND I
36:51UNDERSTAND, AS YOU MENTIONED,
36:53WHEN EVERYONE CAME CAME TOTAL,
36:59WONDERING HOW THEY CAN GET PAST
37:01THAT RUFFLES IN THE FEATHERS WAS
37:05PROBABLY THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE IN
37:07THE BEGINNING, I'M SURE.
37:11>>Testifier: I'M TURN THIS
37:12OVER TO DAVID.
37:13I THINK A THIRD-PARTY
37:16PERSPECTIVE --
37:17>>Councilmember Cordero:
37:18RIGHT.
37:18>>Testifier: I CAN GET
37:20COLORFUL FOR THIS ONE.
37:21WHEN WE WERE TO MEET WITH THOSE
37:25DEPARTMENTS, PEOPLE, THEY DON'T
37:26TREAT US LIKE AUDITORS.
37:30THEY TEND TO TO OPEN UP AND TELS
37:33EVERYTHING.
37:33WE'LL KEEP THEM NAMELESS BUT WE
37:35WOULD HEAR PEOPLE SAY, IT'S A
37:38FIRST IN, FIRST OUT METH METHOD.
37:41WE WANT TO GET TO THE TOP OF THE
37:44LINE.
37:45WHEN YOU HEAR IT THAT WAY, YOU
37:48GO, WHAT DOES THAT RESULT IN?
37:49A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH.
37:50HOW MUCH?
37:51A LOT CAME READY WITH, I GOT ANN
37:56E-MAIL ON THIS DATE AND THIS
37:57HAND ON THIS DATE AND SIX MONTHS
38:01LATER, WE'RE WAITING.
38:03AND THEY MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN A
38:07KEY DETAIL.
38:08WHEN THEY ASKED US TO BUILD OUR
38:11VERY FIRST TRAINING, WHAT'S
38:13SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEMISTY
38:17FIE?
38:20BUILDING SPECIFICATION.
38:21WHEN WE MET WITH THE GROUPS, YOU
38:23SAW THOME GO, YEAH, WE WOULD
38:25LIKE THAT HELP.
38:27IF WE START TO GET THIS ON THE
38:29FRONT END, WE'RE GOING TO BE
38:31TURNING IN WORK ON THE FIRST TRY
38:33THAT'S NOT GOING TO REQUIRE MUCH
38:35WORK.
38:35THEY MAY NOT KNOW THAT THE
38:38MASTER PURCHASE AGREEMENTS ARE
38:40AVAILABLE, WHICH IS A TIME
38:42SAVINGS OUT OF THE GATE.
38:45PROVIDING ALL THE DEPARTMENTS --
38:47AND FOLKS LIKE TO SPEAK THROUGH
38:50SURVEYS BECAUSE THEY CAN HAVE A
38:51LITTLE BIT OF ANONYMITY.
38:54WE WENT TO SOME ROOMS WHERE
38:57THERE WERE 25, 26 PEOPLE AND WE
38:59WERE THERE FOUR HOURS.
39:01AND THEY ALL GOT TO SAY THEIR
39:04PIECE.
39:04THAT'S ALL HEARD IN THEIR VOICE
39:06IN THAT FIRST REPORT, TO BE ABLE
39:08TO BUILD GOING FORWARD.
39:10HAVING THAT GET THAT OUT TO SAY,
39:11THESE ARE THE CHALLENGES WE'RE
39:13EXPERIENCING FROM OUR END.
39:14WE HEAR YOU.
39:15WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER.
39:18IT'S NOT AN US VERSUS THEM
39:21MENTALITY.
39:21THEY WANT TO GET THEIR JOBS DONE
39:23TO MOVE ON.
39:24THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY'S AT.
39:26>>Councilmember Cordero: THANK
39:28YOU.
39:28THIS IS PROBABLY FURTHER DOWN
39:30THE LINE, BUT LOOKING AT A
39:33PROCESS WHERE AN AGENCY HAS TO
39:35POSSIBLY GO OUT FOR BID AGAIN OR
39:41PROCUREMENT PROCESS AGAIN, WERE
39:43YOU ABING TO DISCUSS THAT WITH
39:46THE PWIG?
39:48JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE HAD A
39:51PRESENTATION FROM A DEPARTMENT
39:54IN MY INFRASTRUCTURE
39:55TRANSPORTATION AND TECHNOLOGY
39:56COMMITTEE AND SO IT CAME UP.
39:59BUT I DO SEE LESS REBIDS AND
40:03REPROCUREMENTS THAN I DID OVER
40:05THE LAST 14 YEARS.
40:08IN THE BEGINNING OF 2012, IT'S
40:14BETTER NOW.
40:15HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS
40:17WORKING GROUP?
40:18>>Testifier: DEFINITELY.
40:19I THINK IT GOES BACK TO THE
40:22NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
40:23IT'S TRAINING.
40:25AND SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THIS
40:29WAY OF THE VETERAN DEPARTMENT
40:31STAFF WHO ARE RETIRING AND NO
40:34LONGER HERE.
40:35WHO HAD TO DRILL DOWN, WHO KNEW
40:38HOW TO DEVELOP SPIEFICATIONS FOR
40:41A SCOPE OF WORK THAT TAKES WHAT
40:44IT NEEDS.
40:45WHEN YOU WANT TO BUY A PENCIL,
40:49DESCRIBE IT WITHOUT SAYING, I
40:51WANT TO BUY A PENCIL.
40:53THAT IS WHERE THE EXPERTISE, A
40:57LOT HAS BEEN LOST.
40:58HAVING THAT TRAINING THAT
40:59FOCUSES ON -- THAT'S WHY NUMBER
41:02ONE WAS HOW DO I DEVELOP
41:06SPECIFICATION IN A SCOPE OF
41:08WORK.
41:09WHAT WOULD COME ACROSS IS
41:11SOMETHING THAT IS NOT
41:13MARKETABLE.
41:13WE PUT IT OUT TO THE MARKET,
41:16THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO BID ON
41:19IT.
41:19OR WE GET BACK ADDENDUM AFTER
41:23ADDENDUM ASKING US, WHAT DO YOU
41:26WANT?
41:26WHAT DO YOU NEED?
41:27THAT WAS OUR FIRST TRAINING
41:29BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
41:32THAT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY OF
41:34THE IN THAT FLOWCHART THAT I
41:35GAVE TO YOU THEY'RE THE SUBJECT
41:38MATTER EXPERTS.
41:39THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED.
41:41BRIDGING THAT HURDLE AND HAVING
41:43YOU ARTICULATE THAT TO WHERE THE
41:46MARKET CAN RESPOND AND GIVE YOU
41:49GOOD PRICING.
41:50WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE
41:52TRAINING AND ONE-STOP SHOP TO
41:54GIVE THEM THE CAPABILITY NOW TO
41:57BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
41:58IT WAS DEFINITELY THIS WHOLE
42:00PROCESS HAS BEEN A HMMBLING
42:05EXPERIENCE.
42:05HOW CAN WE START WORKING
42:08TOGETHER AND STOP COVERING OUR
42:12OKOLES?
42:13THE GETING US NOWHERE.
42:15THIS IS WHERE I THINK WE START,
42:18IS THE BASICS.
42:20SOME OF OUR TRAININGS ON THE
42:23SMALL PURCHASE, LESS THAN FIVE
42:28MINUTE.
42:29NO STATUTES NO JAR GIN.
42:33OUR GOAL IS HELP GET THOSE TOOLS
42:36TO WHERE THEY CAN ARTICULATE
42:37THAT AND NOT HAVE TO GO OUT TO
42:40BID SO MANY TIMES.
42:42A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S WHAT WE'LL
42:44SEE.
42:44MARKET HAS NO IDEA WHAT THEY
42:46WANT TO PRICE.
42:48OR THAT'S NOT HOW THE MARKET
42:50PRICES THEIR WORK.
42:51THIS IS WHERE THE TRAINING AND
42:53ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO COME
42:56INTO PLAY.
42:56>>Councilmember Cordero: THANK
42:57YOUFUL ONE THANK
42:59>>Councilmember Cordero: ONE
43:01THIRD QUESTION.
43:04IS TIME LINE IMPLEMENTATION FOR
43:07FUTURE ENVIRONMENT THE SAME AS
43:11DETERMINING THE DIFFERENT
43:13APPLICATION METHODOLOGIES?
43:16>>Testifier: SO THE RFI, IT'S
43:20SIMILAR.
43:22WE ACTUALLY DISCUSS ONE OTHER
43:24PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT MAY BE
43:26IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT.
43:29CONTRACT LIFE CYCLE MANAGEMENT
43:31AND E PROCUREMENT SYSTEM.
43:36IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT KEY
43:38PERFORMANCE INDICATERS THAT WERE
43:42INTERNAL, HOW WOULD WE DO THAT?
43:45WOULD WE USE A SHARE GOOGLE
43:46SHEET?
43:48WE'VE SEB SUCCESS WITH WHAT THEY
43:50CALL BUSINESS PROCESS MANAGEMENT
43:52THAT ARE ALSO SIMILAR IN NATURE
43:55TO AN ERP SYSTEM THAT WOULD
43:56ALLOW YOU TO CATCH SOME OF THOSE
44:00INTERNAL ANDOFFS AND THINGS YOU
44:02WANTED TO MEASURE.
44:03THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT'S
44:06ADDITIONAL, AS WELL AS ERP WAS
44:08NOT CONSIDERED.
44:09ON ONE OF THE SLIDES, ERP SIDE,
44:13AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE
44:14NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
44:16WHAT TRADITIONAL ERP OFFERS TO
44:20MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT
44:22SOMETHING THAT COULD BE REPLACED
44:26OR COMPLEMENTS 2 IT IT WELL IN E
44:30FUTURE.
44:30>>Testifier: SO IN THE
44:31CONTRACT WITH BARRY DUNN, THE
44:35REASON WE PUT THE RFI, AND THEY
44:37ISSUE THE THAT ON OUR BEHALF.
44:39SEE WHAT WAS OUT THERE, TO OFFER
44:43THE THINGS THAT WERE GOING TO
44:44ADDRESS THE DEPARTMENT'S
44:47CONCERNS.
44:47TRANSPARENCY AND WHERE WE ARE IN
44:49PROCESS.
44:50WE ALSO WANTED TO GET INITIAL
44:52PRICING.
44:53IF WE WERE GOING TO ENTERTAIN
44:54THOSE SYSTEMS, HOW MUCH WAS THAT
44:56GOING TO COST US?
44:59BUDGETING AND ALL THOSE OTHER
44:59THINGS.
45:02THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO LIVE BY
45:04WHAT WE'RE PREACHING.
45:06SO THAT'S WHERE THAT RFI CAME
45:10INTO PLAY.
45:10>>Councilmember Cordero:
45:11MAHALO.
45:11THANK FOR THAT.
45:13AND MAHALO, CHAIR, FOR ALLOWING
45:14ME TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS.
45:15>>Chair Dos Santos-Tam: THANK
45:16YOU.
45:17COUNCILMEMBER WEYER.
45:18>>Councilmember Weyer: THANK
45:19YOU.
45:19MAHALO FOR THE PRESENTATION.
45:21IT'S EXCITING.
45:23I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A PUBLIC
45:27QUESTION.
45:28TEN POSITIONS, THOSE WERE JULY 1
45:32POSITIONS?
45:32>>Testifier: YES.
45:34WE WERE GIVEN AUTHORITY TO
45:38PURSUE THOSE POSITIONS IN --
45:40LAST YEAR.
45:43FY 25 -- SORRY, 26.
45:45LAST YEAR, AS SOON AS WE GOT OUR
45:47BUDGET, WE DUG IN AND PUT OUR
45:51TOP PRIORITY ON GOING OUT AND
45:53GETTING PEOPLE IN THOSE
45:56POSITIONS.
45:59YES.
45:59>>Councilmember Weyer: I'M
46:01CURIOUS, WHAT DO YOU THINK MAY
46:03FILL IN THOSE POSITIONS
46:05SUCCESSFUL?
46:06ARE THERE CERTAIN FACTORS?
46:08WE COULD LEARN FROM?
46:10>>Testifier: SO I THINK WHAT
46:12MADE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER IS
46:15THAT WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO
46:17HAVE TO HIRE AT THE LOWEST
46:19LEVEL.
46:20AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE
46:21OUR SR 16.
46:25AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE WENT
46:27OUT WITH A NOTICE ALMOST
46:30IMMEDIATELY TO TRY TO GET
46:32CANDIDATES IN.
46:34I KNOW THAT WE WENT THROUGH
46:37DHR'S ONE DAY HIRING PROCESS.
46:39OUR POOR STAFF -- AND WE MADE
46:41THIS OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY.
46:45SO WE COMMITTED TO GET IT DONE.
46:47AND SO I THINK WE HAD HIRED MOST
46:50OF THEM BY MATCH MARCH OF THIS R
46:55AFTER GETTING THE BUDGET AND
46:56DOING ALL OF THAT.
46:58AGAIN, I THINK IT WAS -- IT'S
47:00EASY TO HIRE AT THAT VERY LOW
47:04LEVEL.
47:05THEY NEED A COLLEGE DEGREE AND
47:09SO WE AGAIN WE HAD MANY, MANY
47:13APPLICANTS THAT WE HAD TO GO
47:16THROUGH.
47:16I DON'T THINK WE'RE MUCH MORE
47:19MAGIC THAN THAT.
47:20>>Councilmember Weyer:
47:20APPRECIATE THAT.
47:22AND I WAS CURIOUS, IN TERMS OF
47:25THE MASTER AGREEMENTS WHAT WERE
47:28THE BIGGEST?
47:30>>Testifier: I'M SO GLAD YOU
47:32ASKED.
47:33SO WE DID A PILOT PROGRAM WITH
47:35THE DEPARTMENT OF DESIGN AND
47:37CONSTRUCTION CIVIL DIVISION, AND
47:38SO ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WANTED
47:40TO DO WAS TO HAVE ON TAP FOR THE
47:44PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT WERE
47:46GOING TO SUPPORT THEIR BRIDGE
47:48INSPECTION PROGRAMS.
47:49A LOT OF THEIR STRUCTURAL
47:52ENGINEERS, CONSTRUCTION
47:54MANAGERS.
47:54THEY WANTED TO HAVE A ROBUST
47:59SELECTION.
47:59INSTEAD OF DOING THE ONE-OFF
48:02MASTER AGREEMENT.
48:04YOU'RE THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER,
48:08FOR EACH OF THE NEEDS WE DID A
48:12MULTIAWASHED FOR AWARD FOR EACH.
48:15RESULTED IN FIVE MASTER
48:18AGREEMENTS TO FIVE DIFFERENT
48:21CONTRACTORS.
48:21USUALLY CONTRACTS WERE 4REU78ED
48:24TO 4REU78
48:25THE -- LIMITED TO TWO YEARS BUT
48:27WE OPENED TO TO FIVE YEARS.
48:29FOUR DIFFERENT CONTRACTS FOR
48:31FOUR DIFFERENT NEEDS WITH FIVE
48:36UNDER EACH.
48:38THEY DO NOT NEED TO COME BACK TO
48:41THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT FOR
48:42ANY OF THE SERVICES.
48:44THEY ISSUE THOSE DELIVERY ORDERS
48:46THEMSELVES.
48:47THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH
48:48PROCUREMENT WORK FLOW INTO UNTIE
48:53CONTRACT EXPIRES.
48:55I TALKED TO TIM A COUPLE WEEKS
48:58AGO.
48:58WE GOT THAT DONE.
49:01NEXT FISCAL YEAR, LET'S DO
49:03ANOTHER GROUND BECAUSE HE
49:05DOESN'T WANT TO SEE OVERLAP.
49:07WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE TO
49:10WHERE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN
49:12OVERLAP, A GAP TIME WHERE WE
49:13HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER
49:16SOLICITATION RIGHT ON THE EDGE,
49:20UBING
49:22EDGE -- RUBBING UP AGAINST THAT
49:24DEAD LINE.
49:26THAT WAS THE BIGGEST WIN WITH
49:28THE MASTER AGREEMENTS.
49:30OTHERS WERE ENGAGING MORE WITH
49:33THE STATE PROCUREMENT OFFICIAL
49:35AND NATIONAL AGREEMENTS.
49:36WE ARE PART OF A WASHINGTON
49:38STATE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT NOW,
49:40WHERE IT ALLOWS US TO BUY BUSES
49:43AND HANDI-VANS FROM THAT
49:46NATIONAL AGREEMENT THAT IS GOING
49:47TO DO OPEN UP A WORLD OF
49:49OPPORTUNITY FOR DTS IN THE
49:51FUTURE.
49:52SO THAT ONE IS A BIG ONE, AND WE
49:54ALSO HAD NEVER PLAYED WITH THE
49:56STATE PROCUREMENT OFFICE, AND
49:59KIND OF PUSHED THEM TO ENGAGE
50:02FOR THE PRIOR APPARATUS AND
50:06PRIOR TRUBS AND -- TRUCKS AND TS
50:09OF THAT NATURE.
50:15SO HFD REALLY, REALLY WANTED
50:17THAT, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE
50:18PART OF THAT MASTER AGREEMENT,
50:22MOTED JUST --
50:24234089
50:26NOT JUST FOR US BUT STATEWIDE.
50:30ONE, TAKING CARE OF OURSELVES
50:31AND OPENING UP AND BEING WILLING
50:33TO PLAY WITH OTHER PLAYERS OUT
50:38THERE THAT ARE STATE AS WELL AS
50:42NATIONAL COOPERATIVES.
50:42>>Councilmember Weyer: THAT'S
50:44EXCITING.
50:44>>Testifier: IT IS.
50:45IT'S A FORCE MULTIPLIER.
50:49IT FEEDS UPON ITSELF AND TAKES A
50:52LOT OF TRANS ACTIONSES OFF OUR
50:56WORKLOAD.
50:57ISSUE THOME THEM WHEN THEY HAVE.
51:02>>Councilmember Weyer: IF WE
51:03STARTED TO SEE THE SPEEDING UP.
51:06OVER TIME, I'LL SURE IT WILL
51:08IMPROVE MORE.
51:12MAHALO.
51:13THANK YOU, CHAIR.
51:14>>Chair Dos Santos-Tam: THANK
51:15YOU.
51:15COUNCILMEMBER NISHIMOTO, ANY
51:18QUESTIONS?
51:20COUNCILMEMBER WEYER?
51:27IN CORDERO.
51:28MY THINGS ARE COVERED.
51:31SENSING THERE'S NO OTHER
51:33QUESTIONS, ANY CLOSING OR
51:36CONCLUDING STATEMENTS.
51:36>>Testifier: ONE THING I WOULD
51:38SAY THAT WE DO THIS TYPE OF WORO
51:44MAYORS YESTERDAY, THIS IS WHAT
51:48WE'VE CHOSE CHOSEN TO DO THIS W.
51:52WE GET TO PARTNER WITH ALL
51:54DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS IN THE
51:55ORGANIZATION, AND WE'VE HAD
51:58GREAT PARTICIPATION FROM THE
52:003R-67ING GROUP AND ALL THE
52:02DEPARTMENTS WE WORKED WITH.
52:02THANK YOU.
52:04IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE THUS FAR.
52:06THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
52:07>>Chair Dos Santos-Tam: OKAY.
52:08THANK YOU.
52:11AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN IT TO
52:13TESTIMONY.
52:14CLERKS, ANY REGISTERED OR
52:15STANDING BY IN THE CHAMBER OR
52:17ONLINE?
52:19>>Clerk: REGISTERED TESTIFIERS
52:20IS NOT LOGGED ON.
52:21>>Chair Dos Santos-Tam: THAT
52:22BEING THATION, THE CASE, WE'RE N
52:26DISCUSSION.
52:27MEMBERS, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION.
52:31SEEING NONE, THERE BEING NO
52:33FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING
52:35IS ADJOURNED.
52:38IT'S 3:23.
52:39THANKS, EVERYONE.