2026-10-14 - Edward Farrar Utility District

00:13Call the meeting of the average Ferrari

00:16ability district commissioners meeting

00:19for Wednesday, October 14th at 4:30 here

00:23in the spill room.

00:26Um

00:30First up is to approve the agenda.

00:36Um any additions to

00:40modifications?

00:42>> I have to remember to spell Bob's name

00:45right in all the places. My apologies.

00:51>> You're probably used to that anyway.

00:53>> Yeah.

00:54>> I think I got all the letters in there,

00:56maybe just not the right order.

00:59>> But you misspelled Bob or did you

01:01misspell Fanucchi?

01:04>> [laughter]

01:05>> Bob, you can't go far too

01:07>> That's right.

01:08>> forward and backward.

01:13>> Looks good to me, Skip.

01:16You want to make a motion to approve the

01:17agenda?

01:18>> I move that we

01:20the agenda be approved as is.

01:24>> Thank you, Mark.

01:26Motion has been made and seconded to

01:28approve the agenda as presented. All

01:31those in favor say I.

01:33>> I.

01:35>> Motion passes.

01:38Um

01:41Public

01:43Are you

01:44>> I'm just here to enjoy.

01:46>> Wow.

01:47>> You never know, might be something else.

01:49>> Is that a satisfied customer?

01:51>> Yes.

01:54>> Okay.

01:55Um

01:57Minutes of the meeting of September 9th.

02:05Uh they would find a minute.

02:09Anybody else have a

02:13Bob, you have a

02:14>> I see that it's one misspelling.

02:16>> I still I think I did it Yes, Bob's name

02:19is misspelled. I just thought I'd do

02:23The nuance, it's good. It's It's sort of

02:25a

02:27It's a

02:28combination of

02:30I don't know, Irish and monetary policy.

02:37>> So, you want that duly noted.

02:39>> [laughter]

02:39>> Correct.

02:45Do you want to

02:46approve the minutes then?

02:48>> I move that we approve the minutes with

02:50the

02:51typographical correction noted.

02:55>> Second the motion.

02:57>> Motion's been made and seconded to

02:59approve the minutes of September 9th,

03:022026.

03:05All those in favor, say aye.

03:08>> Aye.

03:08>> Aye.

03:09>> Those opposed?

03:11Motion passes.

03:13Um

03:15We worked on a draft of the duties and

03:18responsibilities of district clerk and

03:21treasurer. What he had done

03:24what the district clerk

03:26>> Yes.

03:27>> Yeah, there we go.

03:29>> That we would point to.

03:33Got it.

03:34Stop the car, I want to

03:36>> Who?

03:37I did.

03:37>> Finish up the clerk.

03:39Fine print details there.

03:42Someone do the treasurer.

03:45>> Um actually

03:47No, they mentioned that we were going to

03:49write up the treasurers.

03:51>> Yeah, they I got to the Treasurer's

03:52version yet.

03:53>> Yeah.

03:55And speak with Carla.

03:57Um, and got more detail about, you know,

04:00how it all sort of has worked in the

04:02past.

04:03Um, brought up

04:06uh,

04:07brought up a couple of things this

04:09afternoon, I think early afternoon, and

04:11sent an email to really wanted us to

04:14review

04:16what Bill had put on. I didn't edit too

04:19much from that script, that description,

04:23but just wanted to point out,

04:26um, I've got it right here, it's he's

04:28looking at it, but it point out a couple

04:29of things to be aware of.

04:32Um, give me a minute.

04:34You know, just that for consideration.

04:37Um, I was looking at, um, estimated time

04:41that it would take to do these tasks.

04:44part-time job and put some perspective

04:46on that, so each of the tasks

04:51that were written in the description, I

04:52I included some times so that you could

04:55look at

04:57an estimated time to do an annual

04:59meeting with an an election, which is

05:02really the primary service

05:04service that would happen between the

05:05months of April and May, and say that

05:08that is when our annual meeting is.

05:11So, that adds a little perspective to a

05:13a candidate to know the

05:16the high time to be available to do the

05:18work.

05:19Um,

05:21there was some question I had looked at

05:24the charter,

05:27um,

05:28which

05:30is pretty brief, our charter, and it

05:32talks about

05:34the clerk,

05:36um,

05:37well, I think there's a question of

05:39whether the clerk really needs to be

05:40from the district,

05:42living in the district, and the way it's

05:45written is kind of

05:47>> But there may be statutory requirements.

05:49>> Yeah, so I don't know. So that we could

05:51just really get that clarified that

05:52would be helpful.

05:54Um

05:56because it says the thing it seems like

05:58it would be that the clerk would be part

06:00of the board

06:02of civil authority

06:05which is voted on by the public during a

06:10town election, not a public election,

06:13but it would be those residents voted in

06:15that live in the district. I think

06:18that's what they're

06:19saying so that the clerk if they're

06:21going to be part of that board of the

06:23vacant must be from the district. So

06:25again, it's just worthy of having all

06:27that be clarified because

06:30with

06:32determines where we're going to have our

06:34board at.

06:34>> What is that say there?

06:37Talked to

06:39We got to run it.

06:40Yeah, I think several months ago I spoke

06:42to them about this and I believe and

06:44I'll have to look back through my stuff,

06:46but it was his interpretation that the

06:47clerk had to be in the district.

06:49>> Okay.

06:49>> Unless it was

06:53in the charter of the line

06:55>> Unless it's stated otherwise in the

06:57charter's ground.

06:57>> Yeah.

06:58>> Well, I just did an AI search

07:00>> Yeah.

07:01>> really quickly.

07:02Um while you're at the meeting

07:04>> Just right now.

07:05>> [laughter]

07:05>> 17 VSA section

07:092646

07:11also section 2121 where it says

07:14under general Vermont law, a municipal

07:17clerk must be a registered voter of the

07:19town or city they serve.

07:21Uh which in turn requires residency,

07:24domicile in that

07:25in that municipality. Now, however,

07:27there are exceptions. Appointed clerks

07:29in municipal charters. If a municipality

07:31have voted to allow the select board or

07:33legislative body to appoint the

07:35municipal clerk or operates under a

07:37specific municipal charter, residency

07:40requirements can be altered.

07:42Um

07:44Vermont law does not require that

07:46assistant town clerks or assistant

07:48treasurers be residents or registered

07:50voters in the municipality.

07:54>> Again, it seems consistent with the way

07:56it's always been.

07:56>> Yeah.

07:57Yeah.

08:00Yeah.

08:02>> I'm sorry, I zoned out for a moment.

08:04They need to be from the district?

08:07>> Under general law. There are exceptions,

08:09however. That's all you need to know.

08:10There are exceptions.

08:12For

08:13>> The ability to make an exception.

08:15>> There are Yeah, there are

08:16ways to make exceptions.

08:19>> It uh

08:21Let me look.

08:22Um Does it say the same thing for

08:24treasurer?

08:25>> I It didn't

08:28go on now. I just

08:29looked it up, but um it made a reference

08:32to assistants clerks and treasurers not

08:34having to be

08:36uh so I think the same is true of the

08:38treasurer. Yeah.

08:41>> Well, we need that.

08:43Yeah. Yeah, the job description for the

08:46treasurer anyway.

08:48>> Yeah.

08:51Yeah. I think we should assume for now

08:53that it's

08:55got to be a resident.

09:01>> So, we'll

09:02work on getting the job description for

09:05the treasurer together, too.

09:06>> Yeah. Yeah. And I stepped out for a

09:08minute for urgent matter, but am I going

09:11to still check with Jim Barlow on

09:13residency requirements?

09:14>> Well,

09:16look like AI backed him up here.

09:18>> Yeah. Yeah, he like He will like that.

09:20Yeah.

09:21>> [laughter]

09:23>> Which

09:24I thought thought, you know, might be

09:26the case that there was something in the

09:28general statute that

09:30applied to

09:33the situation.

09:35So, we'll continue to

09:38uh work on the

09:41treasures and get those together.

09:44Um

09:46next up was the

09:48attorney recommendation on the

09:50corrections to the E-Fund uh

09:54annual report.

09:57I had 26 in there. I really should have

10:00had five, so

10:01>> There's copies of that email available.

10:11>> You want to

10:13go over it there briefly?

10:14>> Um yeah, I spoke with Jim Barlow

10:18with regards to

10:20errors that may have been in the

10:23E-Fund annual report.

10:26Um and as to what the best course of

10:29action moving forward would be.

10:31And as you can see from the email I've

10:34sent it to you, he's

10:37written out

10:38um that we're not really required to do

10:42very much, but the best practice really

10:45is to

10:46make the voters aware of the

10:48inaccuracies in the report.

10:50And he would recommend that we just make

10:54sure the vault has a copy of the

10:56corrected information that's will reside

10:59in the annual report in vault.

11:01And that we put an electronic version

11:03available

11:04on the website for those who want to

11:06find out via the website. So,

11:09um

11:12that's what he has recommended and I I

11:14think that's good advice.

11:18>> Okay.

11:20>> Carol, are you with

11:23everyone?

11:24>> Yeah, I'm here.

11:37>> We can

11:38do that pretty

11:41easily. Correct.

11:48Are those the RFPs?

11:49>> Yes.

11:54>> But you can note for the minutes that we

11:56agreed to follow

11:59in Marlo's recommendation

12:02correction.

12:05annual report.

12:12Yeah.

12:16>> Do you have a copy of that email that I

12:18could include?

12:20>> Yeah, I'll give it to you right here.

12:22>> Okay.

12:31>> The next up is the

12:35discussion and

12:37review of the draft RFP for the uh

12:41We put the advantages, disadvantages

12:45that we're working on. So

12:47>> Kevin and I have been working on this

12:49since you authorized us at the last

12:52meeting.

12:52>> [clears throat]

12:53>> Uh

12:54and your authorization

12:56uh actually, let's see. Um

12:59I will remind you this is what it says.

13:02>> To review and

13:04>> To review and issue.

13:06>> Right.

13:07>> Um we did not issue, so you have a

13:08chance to review it again.

13:10Um we it took us uh took us a little

13:13while, but um

13:17we we're feeling pretty good about it.

13:19It's it's a little long, uh but that's

13:21mainly formatting and um

13:23the differentiation of tasks.

13:26Um in fact, there are six tasks and I've

13:29got a numbering problem as you can see.

13:33I'll correct um

13:35um

13:39Pretty straightforward, we've identified

13:42as I say five five

13:44well, six tasks.

13:46The first task being, you know,

13:49come and talk to us.

13:51Um

13:52but the other tasks are

13:54review of governance and charter,

13:57then a

14:00look at our finances and rate snapshot.

14:04Uh

14:04then an assessment. We added this one.

14:07We we made it specific. It's a

14:10assessment of our the status of our

14:12infrastructure and reserve capacity.

14:15Again, these will be qualitative

14:17assessments

14:19designed to identify, if any,

14:22uh areas of that may deserve further

14:25action

14:26or consideration or study by us.

14:29Um

14:31and then there's a stakeholder input

14:34portion to it.

14:36And the deliverables are a presentation

14:40and a report, essentially.

14:42And several meetings with us.

14:44Um

14:46and there's an anticipated schedule.

14:49It's the same schedule that we talked

14:51about last meeting.

14:54Uh but it's a little compressed, but I

14:56think it still works.

14:59This one's all good.

15:01I'll make a couple of typographical

15:03fixes and

15:05then we get it out.

15:07Uh

15:08VLCT has given us the names of some

15:10potential contractors

15:13and we would go on their website and

15:16then we

15:17we give away information on them as

15:19well, right?

15:20>> Correct. Yeah, they go on our website

15:22and

15:23I

15:24Neil knows some folks and other Yeah.

15:26>> Yeah.

15:27>> We'll get it out there.

15:29Um and we can do that immediately,

15:31right? This week?

15:32>> This month.

15:32>> As soon as

15:33everybody's keen with this.

15:37Okay, it does have us making some

15:39decisions around Christmas time, but

15:42it's just

15:43or at least having some I say not

15:45decisions, having

15:46certain

15:48certain deadlines in the in the

15:50schedule there. Um

15:53contract execution, but that would be

15:55something Woody you would do with our

15:57office. If

15:59it can't happen till mid-January, that's

16:01fine.

16:01>> Yeah, cuz wouldn't that include I don't

16:03know, perhaps an attorney and they may

16:05not be ready.

16:06>> Yeah. Yeah, right. Exactly. You said

16:08that the schedule says something to

16:10change.

16:14>> You want to get them till the end of the

16:16to get us

16:17>> Oh.

16:18>> End of the week?

16:19>> Correct.

16:20>> This week? Oh.

16:22>> Oh.

16:22>> Any

16:23>> Um any comments or

16:24>> have any If you have any comments or you

16:26know,

16:27thoughts about it,

16:29written to Skipper me in the next couple

16:31days and I'll work with you guys and

16:34we'll get it out at the end of the week,

16:35if that's okay.

16:36>> I can work on it.

16:38>> You have any look at this

16:39>> Then you're a spare guy.

16:42>> Yeah.

16:44I think that um

16:47there's a

16:48perception that there's times when

16:52town guys are working with the

16:54department of water and

16:55vice versa that

16:57there's a big world of you know,

16:59standing in the middle of the table that

17:01was happening and I understand that it

17:03does happen, you know.

17:05I'm not sure you need to but you after

17:07the extent of which that things are

17:09really

17:13And some of that stuff that was sort of

17:15worth obvious, I can't find it for

17:17today.

17:18Um this is all obvious.

17:20>> Okay, so you want obvious removed?

17:22>> Um I I want it.

17:26>> Okay, yeah, no, I

17:28Um I

17:30I'm not sure that I put obvious in uh

17:32but it it it was it was there.

17:35>> This direction.

17:36>> Yeah, I must have missed it obviously.

17:39>> [laughter]

17:41>> Um

17:44But if you have a listing here

17:47Yeah. Okay.

17:49You'll be around on Friday, Woody?

17:51>> Yeah, uh no.

17:52>> No?

17:53>> No.

17:54>> Well, maybe we'll

17:55>> Well, I think there's there's a chance

17:57over the weekend. Not necessarily

17:58morning.

17:59>> Yeah.

17:59>> Okay, well,

18:00then Monday morning?

18:02>> Yeah.

18:02>> Monday Yeah, okay, good.

18:04Okay.

18:05Well, that's great. You're happy with

18:07that?

18:09>> So, if any of you folks online have

18:13something you want to say, you'll have

18:15to kind of speak up and at any time

18:18here. So,

18:20um

18:22Update on the uh

18:25letter to the Vermont AG's on their

18:28designated water and sewer reserve

18:30plots. So,

18:32I put Woody's cell phone number in the

18:36letter that I had last week.

18:39>> Yeah, I haven't heard that yet.

18:40>> I have not heard from the AG

18:42um

18:43on this matter by a phone or email. So,

18:47>> Looks good.

18:49>> It's been a while.

18:51>> Okay,

18:53it's been more than a month.

18:54>> It's been a month. It's been a month

18:55since the attendant for last week.

18:57>> Yeah.

18:57>> Well, they're busy, you know.

18:59>> You hear them in the news all the time.

19:00>> They certainly are.

19:04>> Okay, moving on um

19:07>> Well, what is the next

19:08>> the agenda for the October 26th

19:11>> Okay.

19:12>> meeting next week going to the

19:14watershed.

19:15>> Yeah, and here's what it looks like.

19:18And Cindy will open this on

19:21>> 21st.

19:23>> 21st.

19:25>> Um, I I will

19:28check.

19:28>> At 6:30

19:30in the firehouse.

19:38It'll be pretty straightforward.

19:39>> Do you have another coffee?

19:40>> Another coffee for you, of course. I can

19:42get you, too, if you'd like.

19:44>> No.

19:44>> One is suitable for framing.

19:49It's a fairly straightforward agenda.

19:50There will be no PowerPoint

19:52presentations, but there will be uh

19:55right now there are three invited

19:57organizations to speak. And Cindy will

20:00tell us whether we still have three in a

20:02moment, but uh

20:04uh

20:05Forest Parks and Recreation, Stowe Land

20:07Trust, and the Vermont Mountain Biking

20:09Biking Association.

20:11Uh I I have Waterbury Trails Association

20:14here. Actually, take that off. They're

20:15not We didn't ask them to speak.

20:18Um and I do have the names and titles.

20:20So, I obviously this is they've got to

20:22do common board things in this. Um and

20:25we're going to meet the object of this

20:27meeting is to hear from interested

20:31persons and parties

20:35about

20:37anything

20:38about the Waterbury

20:40land and how it can and should be used.

20:44So, on and so forth. And uh we're going

20:46to hear uh the ex-

20:48the experience that

20:50uh

20:52Forest Parks and Rec and Stowe Land

20:53Trust and Vermont Mountain Biking

20:56Association have had with in similar

20:59situations or at least analogous

21:01situations

21:02uh where they're dealing with uh

21:06you know, private lands,

21:07dedicated uses,

21:09uh

21:10and

21:12how they manage

21:14those relationships and stewardship of

21:17the land, that sort of thing. And I

21:19suspect you will you will hear from them

21:23some some thoughts about what

21:25ideas that we might want to consider if

21:27we're going to

21:29you know,

21:31well, if we're opening it and I think

21:32they are too.

21:34Um

21:35you know, management of the land um

21:38obviously for the purposes of

21:41clean water, but uh

21:44if there are other purposes that can be

21:46sustained and if we think that makes

21:48sense. I if this again is a long

21:50process, but what we're going to hear is

21:53again, what folks think about the land

21:56and how they'd like to see it used. And

21:58we're inviting public comment

22:01as well.

22:02And um

22:03we'll see who shows up.

22:06You know, I'll stay forward.

22:08>> What's something about this too on the

22:10front porch forum that we're holding at?

22:12>> It's week it's been

22:14>> How many times is

22:15>> [snorts]

22:15>> It's been put up at least for last week.

22:18It's on the calendar. Should go up again

22:20this week and go up again next week.

22:22It's on the roundabout as well.

22:24So, yeah. This is

22:27>> Is it going to be on Zoom or

22:30>> No.

22:30>> Yeah, and we've invited Orca to

22:32>> Orca's there, but

22:33>> [clears throat]

22:34>> we've got a

22:35I was going to

22:37you know, do an official warning for the

22:39meeting.

22:40>> Yes, we did it here, right?

22:42>> We didn't know whether

22:44>> We need the information, ID and pass

22:46code.

22:47>> Yeah, we'll get all all of that.

22:48>> Can be zoomed?

22:49>> Yes, it can be zoomed. Um

22:51we'll need all that.

22:52>> Yeah.

22:53>> Yeah, I'll

22:54Yes, it's not there now, but I'll get

22:55it.

22:57Um

22:59you You I'm

23:01hoping that we hear from users of the

23:03water system. Valerie, you had a comment

23:05in an email that I think would be great

23:07to hear at the meeting.

23:09About clean water. That'd be great.

23:12And then I

23:13expect you'll be there, right, next

23:15week?

23:15>> Um

23:17That's my plan. What night is it? I'm

23:19sorry.

23:19>> It's Wednesday. If you can make it, it'd

23:21be great. But I, you know, when you you

23:23wrote an email, you must have something

23:25going and talked about

23:26>> A long time ago, but yes.

23:28>> Yeah.

23:28>> I can recall my words.

23:30>> Yeah. Um

23:31so I

23:32want to hear from

23:33not only people who who are interested

23:35in using the land for

23:37recreational purposes, but people who

23:39are interested in

23:42quality of the water that comes off the

23:44land.

23:45So.

23:48You

23:50>> Comments or we're ready to go for

23:54Wednesday?

23:57>> Yeah, it sounds good. It's a nice

24:00nice follow-up for our other

24:01presentations.

24:02>> And and for how long have we heard about

24:05activities up there this

24:07>> Um so Kenny's on on he might know more

24:10than me. Um

24:13with regard to

24:15traffic in the waterworks. You there,

24:17Kenny?

24:20>> Yeah, can you hear me?

24:22>> Yeah.

24:23>> Okay, yeah, I mean there's definitely

24:25been activity up there.

24:27Uh there's definitely people have moved

24:30uh

24:31uh debris and stuff off of the trails.

24:33It's definitely far less than it was

24:36prior to

24:38uh the trails being closed.

24:41>> And that's nice to know.

24:42>> So there were mountain bikers up there

24:46then or

24:49>> Yeah, by the sounds of it, yeah. But far

24:51less, but

24:52>> Yeah.

24:53>> Still folks.

24:54>> So somebody got

24:56reported or something to the police if

24:59anything ever come about or

25:02>> Not to my knowledge. Yeah. Yeah.

25:06>> Thank you, Kenny. Thank you. Before we

25:08move on, yeah.

25:09>> in the past

25:11we've had some conversations with Forest

25:14Park and Rec who were the ones we saw

25:17last.

25:18Um

25:19we talked over the past four years with

25:23the manager

25:25of um the lands manager with the Berry

25:28District, Brad Greenough. And then we've

25:30also, as you may remember starting back

25:33in COVID, had their recreation

25:36specialist, uh Walter Neskin, come in.

25:39Uh initially giving a presentation,

25:42and since then we've had some

25:44conversations with him.

25:46Um

25:47so I reached out to those two fellows

25:50several weeks ago.

25:52And oddly enough, I never heard back.

25:55And I could tell I was getting

25:58going to a ghost website uh ghost email

26:01address for Brad Greenough.

26:03And I called and left messages at the

26:06Berry office.

26:08Nobody would buy.

26:10So

26:11I went downstairs

26:13to Forest Park and Rec

26:1610 days ago

26:18and went to the

26:20commissioner's office and said

26:23"You know, what's going on here?" And

26:25turns out Brad has retired.

26:28Which is a a big learning drain. Um

26:32and it took them

26:34a while to figure out who

26:37we should be talking with.

26:39And then it took

26:42until today to be able to have a direct

26:45conversation

26:47with Brad's replacement, um who is a

26:50very nice

26:51young forester,

26:53but

26:54doesn't have the history

26:57um

26:58and you know, I had sent a list of

27:01questions that we have and including

27:06they repeatedly owned state forest land

27:09in Thetford, which includes

27:13a public water system lands later and I

27:16wanted to ask to find out more about

27:19that um

27:20and we heard that no one from the

27:21ballot. So

27:23he he and I spoke for an hour I do. I

27:26will write up my notes um and you did

27:29have some

27:31good suggestions um

27:33but we didn't feel that they could offer

27:37much

27:39at next week's meeting at this point in

27:41time

27:43um and that the questions and discussion

27:47um that I have

27:48put forth with the best interest of

27:51the smaller group system.

27:54>> Well, we can invite them to it.

27:56>> Yeah, we can tell them

27:57to come to the meeting.

27:58>> Yeah.

27:59Okay, so that that means they're off the

28:01agenda.

28:02>> Yeah.

28:02>> Okay.

28:03>> Unfortunately.

28:04>> Unfortunately. Okay, well, it might be a

28:06shorter meeting than we had hoped, but

28:08okay.

28:10>> Dan, do you have something you want to

28:12>> Yeah, I was going to mention that she

28:13answered

28:15actually that I had heard Grant had

28:16retired.

28:18So now I'm only getting the name of who

28:20is replacing him.

28:21>> Yes, it's Dan Singleton.

28:24>> Dan Singleton?

28:25>> Yes.

28:27And Dan was a district forester

28:30before he moved into this position.

28:33And Dan is the land owner of the water

28:35property who has worked with your farm.

28:38Sweet. And Dan Sweet when you were doing

28:41forestry operations up there.

28:47>> Well, this will be

28:49a little tighter than a meeting.

28:51And we'll get them

28:53come here at some point.

28:57Keep having conversation.

28:58>> Yeah.

28:58>> That's That's Thank you.

29:00>> I think visiting with Wally at some time

29:02would be the

29:03Walter

29:05would be great because he was integral

29:07in that whole Nebraska Valley.

29:10>> Right.

29:10>> Oh, yeah.

29:11>> Yeah, so

29:12>> Right.

29:13>> And there is a Turns out also there's a

29:16recreation

29:18conference that JP next week and

29:21Walter's going to be at that as well as

29:23some of the other staff. So, we know

29:25that.

29:26>> On On Wednesday?

29:27>> Yeah, Wednesday.

29:29>> [laughter]

29:30>> Oh, jeez.

29:32Okay, I will get this

29:34corrected [clears throat] and

29:36we'll get it posted.

29:37>> And all.

29:38>> Yeah.

29:38>> Do it tomorrow.

29:39>> Perfect. Approved.

29:41>> Perfect.

29:42>> I'm going to channel this here.

29:43>> Right.

29:46And also send the email, too.

29:48>> So, we'll put So, we'll put you in the

29:49Zoom call with the meeting.

29:50>> That's okay.

29:52>> And thank you for your

29:54work on

29:55getting that set up.

29:56>> Yeah.

29:57>> Cindy's been

29:58>> helping.

29:59>> been running around. It's been crazy.

30:00It's been Yeah.

30:02Well, this is good.

30:03>> This is good.

30:05>> Yeah.

30:06>> The key Oh, and one other thing about it

30:07is one one of the things we put in the

30:09notice was that we If anybody

30:12public or the speakers has

30:16We want to learn. And one of the

30:18questions we ask is, is there science?

30:20Are there studies? Are there things that

30:22we

30:23that have been done that we don't know

30:24about that we should know.

30:26And of course, that's an open invitation

30:28not really next week, but at all times.

30:34>> You think 30 minutes of public comment

30:36is enough?

30:39>> No, uh but we

30:41But now we got more time. I mean, we We

30:43weren't going to cut it off. We weren't

30:44going to cut it. off.

30:44>> Okay.

30:46You know, so I could just go to closing.

30:53>> Are we ready to move on?

30:56>> Um

30:57update on the East Wind project relative

31:00to the change order. Anybody connected

31:03there?

31:04What's

31:05>> The the first action item that needs to

31:08happen, I think last time you authorized

31:10me to sign the change order for 418

31:13231.

31:15Um, they've fine-tuned the numbers

31:18um because those were all kind of

31:19preliminary when we when you had

31:22authorized me to sign that. The new

31:24>> You left some of the numbers out.

31:26>> Yeah. Yeah. And and if the engineer is

31:30recommending a you know, 5% 5%

31:33contingency, the new number would be 516

31:37700.

31:39Um, so before we leave this meeting, if

31:41you are good authorizing me to sign the

31:43change order

31:45for 516 700, that would be great. Um

31:50they are ready to start the directional

31:52drilling on the 19th, which I believe is

31:55Monday.

31:57Um

31:58and then the work would progress down

32:01Route 100 at that point in time.

32:04Um

32:05so it's the chips have all kind of all

32:08the permits finally fell in and

32:10basically this last one

32:13this morning.

32:14>> So yeah.

32:15>> I know.

32:16>> Yeah. So everything is falling into

32:18place

32:20um and the fact that VTrans is going to

32:21let them let most of the traffic snarl

32:24up on Route 100

32:25for a little while.

32:27Um

32:28yeah, it's falling into place.

32:30Um

32:31contractor is ready to go.

32:33>> Is the mobile home park connected?

32:35>> Mobile home park is connected.

32:37>> Yeah.

32:38>> We still have to work through some

32:40paperwork with them on

32:42uh

32:43you know, the

32:44agreement interlocal agreement between

32:46them and us and what have you.

32:48Um

32:49but other than that, yeah, um

32:51we have some pending allocations for

32:54neighbors in up in that area.

32:57Uh me and Alec are supposed to make a

32:58visit to the Cabin Annex area here in

33:02the parcel.

33:03Yeah, he is again, I'll meet him this

33:06morning uh ready to

33:08He wants to know I I I told him the

33:1019th. He said, "Well, when will they be

33:12in front of my place?" I said, "Well,

33:13just because they're digging in front of

33:15your place doesn't mean you can

33:16immediately hook on." But he is

33:19he is ready. Yeah.

33:20>> He's thirsty.

33:21>> He is thirsty, yeah.

33:23And of course he's running with

33:24temporary water

33:25over the top. Yeah, he's worried about

33:27freezing with tanks outside.

33:30>> Where's he getting his water from now?

33:32>> I think my gosh.

33:33>> Manash.

33:34>> Yeah.

33:34>> You truck it in?

33:35>> Truck it in, yeah.

33:38>> Sounds like Saudi Arabia.

33:39>> And now that there's water up there,

33:41somebody sent me an email the other day

33:42wants to build a car wash.

33:45>> [laughter]

33:46>> Well, asked me how they should handle

33:48their waste water. I said, "Well, that's

33:50up to you, but we can sell you some

33:52water if you just want to figure out how

33:54to handle your waste water up there."

33:58>> What is the

33:59uh

34:00connection fee for the mobile home park?

34:03>> Try and we're we worked that up and I'm

34:06trying to compare it to Peck's

34:08connection.

34:09Peck Jeff Peck from Eagle River Mobile

34:12Home Park.

34:13So that we're consistent. Um

34:16So we haven't ironed out the number. I

34:19let them hook on knowing it was going to

34:22be in a ballpark.

34:23>> Yeah. But um

34:24>> There's a little discrepancy between

34:26what we charged Peck back in the day and

34:29what the green book says now. Kai has

34:31done some good work on that one. Um

34:34so

34:35>> Yeah.

34:37>> So the contractor estimates it'll take

34:40three weeks.

34:41>> Oh, okay, that's that's about what I

34:43told Jeff, the cabinet guy.

34:46>> Yeah.

34:47>> Yeah.

34:48>> So he can go get a contractor to start.

34:50>> Yes.

34:51>> Sooner than sooner.

34:52>> Okay, here we go. So it's 9:10 now. So

34:54it is about 6

34:56>> No, 5 516,700,

34:58that's the number.

34:59>> Correct.

35:00>> And what was the

35:01>> Originally it was 418,231.

35:05>> But we but we approved the change.

35:07>> Yeah, you approved the change order for

35:09me to sign the 418,231.

35:11>> Right.

35:11>> Yeah, yeah.

35:14We and we're still within the

35:15>> But yeah, but

35:17>> [clears throat]

35:18>> Do you want to make that motion?

35:21Continue.

35:22>> No, I would

35:24>> real.

35:26Okay, let's see. I move

35:29I'm not going to get the all the

35:30language correct.

35:32>> Get it in one shot.

35:34>> [clears throat]

35:35>> You've been reading the last

35:37>> Yes, I'm I'm going That's exactly what

35:38I'm doing.

35:39>> Yeah.

35:39>> I move that the EFB board authorize

35:43Bill Woodruff to execute

35:45>> Hold on.

35:46Authorize Bill Woodruff to execute

35:52That's enough.

35:53>> Okay.

35:54>> all employees

35:55>> Do I all employees? You don't have to.

35:57Execute the change order.

35:59>> revised

36:00>> the revised change order

36:02>> the revised

36:04change order

36:06>> with J. A. McDonald

36:09>> at

36:09>> for the water line extension

36:12>> Mhm.

36:13>> down Route 100.

36:15>> Mhm.

36:16>> at an estimated cost of

36:20$516,700.

36:24>> Mhm.

36:31>> Rick moves that the E Fund board

36:33authorized Bill Woodruff to execute

36:36the revised change order with J.A.

36:38McDonald for the waterline extension

36:40down Route 100 at an estimated cost of

36:43518 700.

36:46>> Is it 518 or 516?

36:48>> 516.

36:49>> Oh, it's 516. Yeah, okay. Got it.

36:55Okay.

36:58>> Second one.

37:00Motion is made and seconded to authorize

37:04E Fund District Manager Bill Woodruff to

37:07sign the revised change order

37:10for the East Windsor

37:12project at a

37:14revised cost of $516,700.

37:21All those in favor say I.

37:23>> I.

37:23>> I.

37:24>> Motion passes. So,

37:26>> Do I have to make note that Cindy recu-

37:28recu- recused herself? Okay.

37:33>> Yeah, he is.

37:34>> And I will say I don't think things

37:36typically move this smoothly. So, I

37:37don't know what Cindy has done, but

37:40every permit seemed to fall in when it

37:42needed to fall in. And I don't think

37:45that's how it stands. So,

37:48just knowing how the state works.

37:51>> So, the circumstantial evidence is that

37:54Cindy was a cabin guy and getting an

37:56engineer.

37:58>> He was supposed to Yeah. Yeah. Um

38:01Yeah.

38:02>> To get it right here or

38:04>> I don't know. I would doubt it, but

38:05yeah.

38:08>> And they think they could get this work

38:10done before

38:11>> Yeah.

38:12>> Yeah, I mean

38:14I think the go home from the contractor

38:15probably would be before deer season.

38:17>> Cuz Cindy is the obvious be the

38:19>> Yeah.

38:20>> be the one that held up things.

38:23>> [laughter]

38:23>> So,

38:25>> Well, it's good to hear deer season is

38:28still a factor in some things.

38:30>> Yeah.

38:32>> With that, so that'll be good to

38:35>> Bring me back in one direction.

38:39>> Yeah.

38:41>> I used to work with a guy for whom deer

38:43season was inviolable.

38:47He never never shot a deer in his life,

38:49I don't think.

38:50He was at camp.

38:53>> It's definitely not as big as it used to

38:55be, but it's still a factor.

38:56>> Oh, it's great. And what a great

38:58condition.

39:02>> Um next up is our

39:05default rules of procedures we've been

39:07working on and we had some

39:12typos and things in the last version

39:15that you were going to

39:17>> I was

39:18>> I think so.

39:21>> Oh, hell's bells.

39:24Totally slipped my mind.

39:26>> Hold on a minute. Back.

39:28>> Um

39:29>> Yes, it does.

39:32It's exactly what it says.

39:33>> You were too busy on the RFP, so.

39:36>> Oh, I am so sorry. I totally

39:40screwed the pooch on that.

39:42>> I have

39:43>> Screwed the pooch, okay?

39:48>> Jesus.

39:51No, I blew it. Forgive me.

39:53I need

39:57>> It's okay.

39:58>> Well, so I got it. So, do this way.

40:00What do you have? Okay.

40:02>> So, I I move we don't have record doing

40:03it this time.

40:05>> That's right. Why not?

40:07I Yes, I totally forgot. I'll go back

40:10and look at my packet because I wrote

40:11all the notes in it.

40:13Oh, jeez.

40:14>> I had two tries at it and I didn't think

40:17it. So, I'm sorry.

40:20No, I'm

40:20I do I do apologize.

40:23Next up was uh

40:26I had heard about Anderson property and

40:29all this, so I thought what do you

40:30think? We have This is the property that

40:33where we have a

40:36our one of our original wells that we

40:38actually own.

40:41So, I think it's like

40:43rod and a half square or three rods

40:45three rods square. Yeah. Um around it

40:49and he tinkered with it and stuff.

40:53The article I heard he went bankrupt and

40:56>> Yeah, to the best of my knowledge, yeah,

40:58he he is

40:59This is Glenn Anderson which is no

41:01longer on the site and the bank owns it

41:04as far as I know. Um

41:06I don't know that there's been much

41:08action up there other than

41:10it's my understanding he is not.

41:12So.

41:13>> Well, Tom thought it went up for sale

41:15but it went up for a tax sale and

41:18whether

41:19it was something we might consider or

41:22something, but

41:24>> Yeah.

41:25>> The bank owns it.

41:26>> Yeah.

41:27>> So.

41:28>> Well, the bank would be interested in

41:30>> At least you aren't getting any letters

41:31from them every other

41:33>> No. No. Um

41:37Yeah.

41:39>> You know something?

41:40>> Oh, we get letters all the time from

41:42them.

41:43>> Yeah.

41:43>> Bankruptcy stuff.

41:45>> No, from Glenn Anderson.

41:46>> Yeah.

41:47He sends all his bankruptcy stuff to me.

41:50Oh, yeah.

41:51>> You're lucky you.

41:51>> Why?

41:52>> Why?

41:53>> He's trying to move the process along a

41:55little quicker than

41:57>> What what What What's your What what's

42:00our last

42:01>> Oh, yes, taxes.

42:04>> Right.

42:04>> Yeah.

42:04>> Sorry.

42:05>> Cuz he's on the hook until

42:06>> Right, cuz

42:07>> Oh, right.

42:08>> Yeah, the bank paid the 2025 taxes, but

42:12there's no action on the 26 taxes.

42:17>> Okay, sorry.

42:20Now I get it.

42:21>> Yeah.

42:21>> I'm not the

42:22I'm not the sharpest.

42:25>> The who is screwed the pooch?

42:31>> I love that phrase.

42:32>> So sorry.

42:34He's in the water shed. He's got water

42:35on it.

42:36Well, that looks good. We should be

42:38alerted to this. See what it's doing.

42:40>> Yeah, hi. This is Glenn. Are you there?

42:43>> Yeah.

42:44>> Yeah.

42:44>> Yeah, so I'm not going to talk long. I

42:47just wanted to let you know that the

42:49case that you're referring to having

42:52screwed the pooch as it were

42:54is with the Supreme Court of Vermont

42:56right now.

42:57Uh so I'll just leave it there

43:00and carry on. Thank you.

43:03>> Thank you.

43:07>> That was Glenn.

43:07>> That was Glenn. Yeah, that was Glenn.

43:09>> Yeah, no, it said Glenn in the front.

43:12Okay, that's that's okay.

43:17>> Okay, next up is department reports.

43:27>> And I would just add

43:29um I can't remember if it happened since

43:30the last meeting we had

43:33open houses basically at the water and

43:35waste water plants.

43:37Natalie could barely walk. I assume you

43:40can walk better now.

43:41>> It's been about a week, but I am better.

43:44>> That was you. You're a real trooper for

43:45showing up in the shape [clears throat]

43:47you're in.

43:48>> Well, that was I mean I just

43:51you know, my back went out and just that

43:54morning, you know, like a half an hour

43:56before the thing, but I crawled. Yeah,

43:58it was good. I know. But I knew moving

44:01was a good thing to do.

44:03>> Yeah, so we had quite a

44:05decent what I would say is a decent

44:07turnout.

44:08And people learned a lot about water and

44:10waste water and yeah.

44:13>> Yeah.

44:14>> Great presentations.

44:15>> Yeah, I'm sorry I couldn't make it, man.

44:17I was I had a um

44:21I

44:21I was going to go to the energy action

44:23network thing.

44:24>> But that sounded great.

44:26>> Yeah, no, it went well.

44:29>> What do we have? 15?

44:31>> Yeah, at least, yeah, yeah, yeah.

44:34>> We had a few more people, I think, at

44:35the waste water.

44:37>> Yeah.

44:37>> And then a few But we had a nice picture

44:39here at the waste at the water plant.

44:42Everyone's acting like me, holding

44:43themselves up against the wall.

44:46>> What if we

44:48>> You're saying that for you it was a

44:49necessity, for them they were just like,

44:51okay.

44:54>> Gracie King, which is me, now.

44:59>> Oh, there you are, yes, I see it.

45:01Holding up the wall.

45:04>> That was really I think it was

45:06very

45:07uh

45:08very informative and uh you know, the

45:10staff did beautiful presentations.

45:13They seemed to really enjoy

45:16having everybody be there.

45:17>> You know,

45:18the person who

45:20they and our but we met up in Stone the

45:22chief council and I don't remember who

45:24that

45:24>> No, I don't think she did, no. Yeah.

45:29>> Who was that? Was that Priscilla?

45:31>> No, she she

45:33um oh yes, she was um

45:35Yes, she came.

45:37Was that the one you were thinking of?

45:39>> The

45:39blonde hair?

45:41>> Um

45:42>> No, I'm not thinking of

45:43>> No, you're thinking I can't remember

45:47She was the newly appointed or newly

45:50>> No, I just don't remember.

45:56>> Yeah.

45:57>> That's okay.

45:58>> Yeah, no, Priscilla did come. Yeah, and

46:02she's a Waterbury resident.

46:04And came to both water and waste water.

46:07She had been to the water plant before

46:08back which was with the health

46:09department, I think.

46:10>> Yeah.

46:13>> Well, the other lady

46:15came too. That's the

46:18She went

46:19She worked in hazardous waste, went to

46:21Canada,

46:23came back. Uh

46:26Like this I know her.

46:28I talked to her again.

46:32>> She did went to both places or went to

46:34water and waste water?

46:35>> She was down at water.

46:37>> Was it Sherry? Was it

46:38>> Sherry, yeah. Sherry Caston.

46:40>> Yeah.

46:41Okay.

46:42>> She said she started out at Hazard.

46:45Pardon?

46:46>> She said she started out at Hazard.

46:48>> Yeah.

46:51>> She was at

46:52I didn't

46:53>> So, she went up to the water plant

46:55through her

46:56>> She did.

46:57And

46:58and that's the other

47:00Yeah.

47:10>> Well, thank you for doing that.

47:12Yeah.

47:13>> Well, see what See what she said I'm

47:16saying. She She basically called me and

47:18said, "I will do all the work. You just

47:20provide the facilities." And I said,

47:23"All right." And then I of course passed

47:25the buck cuz he texted the guys and

47:27said, "Here you go. Bunch of people are

47:29going to show up and

47:30Both places are typically shipshape

47:32anyway.

47:32>> Right.

47:40>> Well, the

47:42the building before so far as I'm what I

47:44can tell there's

47:45nothing of particular note.

47:53And

48:06>> Of the hybrid low test billing.

48:09And then you have it.

48:11>> Um, then we were a while. Yeah, yeah.

48:14Yeah, our guys were on site.

48:17Yeah.

48:22>> How's the

48:24Duxbury water gallons social security?

48:27>> Um, good. Yeah, I mean we're doing good.

48:32Do a little bit of lost water

48:34calculation over there. Um,

48:36Gaia's got her typical delinquent

48:39accounts.

48:40One of which is usually over Duxbury

48:42water town.

48:43>> Yeah.

48:43>> Uh,

48:44They pretty well got it. Yeah.

48:49>> Yeah.

48:49>> Um,

48:50but yeah, no, that's that

48:53thing you do with off the meter at

48:55>> the

48:55river crossing.

48:57>> Yeah, the lost water gallons. Yeah,

48:59that.

48:59>> Yeah.

49:02So.

49:03>> When do we adopt a new rate structure

49:06for the management company that took

49:07place so we're just using the inherited

49:11Duxbury rate structure?

49:13>> Yeah.

49:14>> They left everything the same.

49:17Yeah. They paid it, correct me if I'm

49:19wrong, they paid a maintenance fee back

49:24to their

49:25somehow they got a maintenance fee in

49:27their bill that they used as well as to

49:29pay back their bond, but they also had a

49:31maintenance fee in there as well. That

49:33was part of the $75,000

49:35or so we got when we took over the

49:37system.

49:39Yeah.

49:41>> But they're still paying that.

49:43We didn't ever take it off their rate.

49:45>> We took their I don't think the

49:46maintenance fee is there. They must

49:49I I believe they have a maintenance fee

49:51or a bond because they're paid their

49:52bond off.

49:53>> So, they paid

49:54So, they paid

49:55>> Well, they were paying the bond to

49:57themselves.

49:58>> I have not taken any changed any rates

50:02for Duxbury water town users.

50:06>> Yeah.

50:08>> Okay.

50:11>> They're happy to get the water.

50:13>> Yes.

50:14I have not heard a word

50:15>> [clears throat]

50:25>> Is there anything else to discuss?

50:28Anything before we

50:30>> I just I thought I would bridge, you

50:32know, we're looking at the monthly

50:33reports for the water and sewer

50:35departments. And I just thought that

50:37should probably be mentioned maybe in

50:40the tasks of the

50:42reviewing the advantages and

50:43disadvantages so to be sure that the

50:47that a candidate would be

50:50you know, doing this review would make

50:52sure that they

50:53you know, to look over past reviews to

50:55show how accountability of staff to the

50:59department.

51:01>> Um, sure.

51:03>> You know, under maybe task five you can

51:05put in that they're going to be meeting

51:07with staff.

51:07>> That's a good idea.

51:09>> Yeah.

51:09>> Thank you.

51:10>> These are the four

51:12reports and it shows the level of

51:14>> And we're going to, you know, and we

51:16will meet with consultants

51:18and for sure there will be lots of work

51:20and

51:22>> That's a good thing to have in writing

51:23so

51:23>> No, it does make sense.

51:26There will be I'm sure there will be

51:27lots of questions.

51:33This is

51:40I think it's a

51:46I think you have the task for

51:54I need a doctor.

52:04Let me think about it, baby.

52:07I I have a flight attendant according

52:11soon.

52:14I'll be in this Let's go with W.

52:21Got it. Okay.

52:23>> You want to stop?

52:24>> Yep.

52:27>> So, motion to adjourn and we'll see you

52:30next Wednesday at the fire station.

52:32>> Yes.

52:33I so moved.

52:35>> Second.

52:36>> Motion has been made and seconded to

52:40adjourn the meeting. All those in favor

52:42say I.

52:44>> I.

52:46>> Motion passes.

53:00>> [music]

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