2026-09-16 - Development Review Board
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Built from the auto-generated captions; names and numbers may be misheard. No agenda was read, and the later minutes of 2026-10-07 approved this meeting's minutes 4-0-1.
- 35 Sunset Drive: site plan review of utility installation (town water connection, underground electric, a transformer and an engineered septic system) in the existing 12-foot right-of-way, to satisfy a condition of a previously approved variance for a single-family home.
- Board members found the submitted plan too schematic and asked for a dimensioned, scaled engineering plan showing utility locations, distances from property lines, the transformer setback, drainage and stormwater, wetland protection, and screening for neighbors. The applicant said the access had already been permitted and she was not reopening the variance; the board said the issue was site-plan detail.
- A neighbor raised concerns about the narrow right-of-way, drainage, snow storage and slope stability; another commenter noted there was little room for screening.
- No vote: the hearing was continued so the applicant can return with a more detailed plan.
- The board approved the August 5 and September 2 meeting minutes as amended, and approved written decisions on two previously heard applications so permits could be issued (4-0-1, one abstention).
- After the meeting, members informally discussed the town plan public comment deadline; no action was taken.
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00:13Welcome everybody. We're going to get
00:16started. Uh welcome to the September
00:1816th meeting of the Waterberry
00:20Development Review Board. My name is
00:22Alex Toltoy. I'm the vice chair, but
00:24I'll be chairing this meeting tonight.
00:26Um, we are a seven member board. Um, we
00:30only have, as of right now, we have
00:32four. We will probably have five present
00:35in a in a minute. Um, any approval
00:37requires four votes in the affirmative.
00:40If at any point the applicant wishes to
00:42continue the hearing to a future date
00:43when more members may be present, they
00:46may request a continuence at any time
00:47before closing the public hearing. Um,
00:51at this point, I'll ask board members to
00:53introduce themselves.
00:56David, start with uh Dave Rogers, DRB
00:58member.
00:59>> Wilson, DRB member.
01:01>> Brooks Fortune.
01:05>> Want to let everyone know that this
01:06meeting is recorded and the recording
01:08becomes part of the public record. Um,
01:11for each application, I'll announce the
01:13applicant from part of the agenda, have
01:15the applicant and consultants introduce
01:17themselves, ask if there are any members
01:19uh of the public that wish to be heard,
01:22and then uh any staff, and we'll ask
01:26questions. Then I'll ask for the current
01:29applicant to come on up for tonight's
01:31meeting. We only have one meeting or one
01:34application.
01:39right here.
01:41>> Yes, please.
01:42>> You introduce yourself, please.
01:43>> France Shetman.
01:46>> Thank you. Uh,
01:48>> ladies in the back, do you wish to speak
01:50tonight?
01:51>> Um, well, I'm
01:53>> No, sorry. Behind you.
01:56>> Not necessarily.
01:58[laughter]
01:59>> Well, if you want, I'll just ask you to
02:00raise your right hand. Um,
02:02>> we have one uh one person attending on
02:04Zoom as well. Uh, if anybody on Zoom
02:07wishes to speak tonight, um, I'll ask
02:09you to raise your right hand so we can
02:11swear you in. Do you swear that the
02:13evidence you shall give to this board
02:14shall be the truth, the whole truth, and
02:16nothing but the truth?
02:17>> Yes.
02:18>> Okay.
02:20Um, I saw that the butter notices were
02:23received. Um,
02:26so at this point, I'll ask Francine to
02:28present your application.
02:31So when we originally came before the
02:33board um we were we were able to secure
02:38a variance to build a single family
02:40residence at 35 um Sunset Drive. Uh
02:44there was in the variance a condition
02:47that required us to come back to the
02:50design review board to have me take a
02:53look at what our plans are for
02:55utilities.
02:56And um that's what I'm here to do. Um,
02:59basically I don't know what you need to
03:02know about the property or anything, but
03:05currently the guarantee [clears throat]
03:06is going to be here.
03:09We're we're like to secure this final
03:12permit is really why I'm here. We had a
03:16few people who were interested in
03:17purchasing and building on this lot. And
03:19I thought
03:22I'm I'm very new at this. I thought we
03:23actually have done everything with the
03:25variance but didn't realize this was one
03:27possible piece that we're doing here.
03:30>> Gotcha. Can you tell us a little bit
03:32about the utilities that you're planning
03:33on bringing in?
03:35>> Pardon me.
03:35>> Which utilities? I saw water.
03:38>> Sorry. So it's a we currently the we
03:40have a designed um engineer designed
03:42inland septic. So that's not coming in.
03:45We have water we would like to connect
03:48to the town water which we have access
03:50to and we also have utilities which
03:53would be electricity
03:55maybe padium I don't anymore
03:58>> sure works out there and basically
04:01that's what we're looking at those would
04:03be underground
04:07>> um you have anything you want to add
04:10>> um just note that the permit for the
04:13single family residents uh has expired.
04:15So any future um builder on the site
04:19would need to go through that permit
04:20process again for the dwelling
04:22>> for
04:24date
04:26um
04:27on the utility
04:31construction.
04:33I'm assuming that's going to go where
04:35the green dots are.
04:39>> That's my understanding. This is what um
04:42I think our engineers told us would be
04:44the best one.
04:45>> Okay.
04:46>> There's another view
04:49here
04:52with the green dots.
04:55>> Cheryl, [clears throat] can you go back
04:55to the moon?
04:56>> Yeah, absolutely.
04:57>> Thank you.
05:00>> Um so I know you had the rightway there
05:03to get to the lot.
05:06Um, I guess they went in a straight line
05:09to run the water line out there of the
05:12second set of green dots on the left.
05:15Um,
05:20how much
05:22off the road is that going to be where
05:26it's above the the rightway going in?
05:30>> Um,
05:31>> see where the green dot kind of goes
05:33>> straight across the road. My
05:35understanding quite honest what I
05:37understand is a 12 perk right away that
05:39we currently have sunset drive a bus to
05:43that land that right away it actually
05:45[clears throat] is right on the sunset.
05:48So what you have there
05:51uh going across is basically tail land.
05:54We come across the right of way goes
05:57across 100 to the
06:00>> okay
06:01>> to behind um where you see it crossing
06:04one of our boundaries. Um
06:08they're my understanding is the
06:10engineers
06:13have explained to me how they need to
06:15separate all the wires. I can go either
06:17straight down or across depending on my
06:20distances
06:22required. So I'm assuming
06:24um that that green dot may be
06:27approximate. I think once I get in there
06:29I don't know what you're doing as far as
06:31distance.
06:33>> Okay.
06:34>> But the entire piece would be within
06:36that 12t but it would be under the right
06:40is here. I think I
06:43>> Yeah, I think I remember this and I
06:46think it does run like alongside sunset.
06:48>> Yeah,
06:49>> basically about sunset run,
06:52>> but they're going to come across that if
06:53we have our line of sight coming or it
06:56goes out into the development area.
07:01Um I don't want any more questions at
07:04this point or
07:08>> but
07:09yeah remember this from before and you
07:14know a big concern was this 12T right
07:17away which is very unusual. Usually
07:21there's,
07:23you know, 20 to 50 ft and you have fair
07:27amount of buffer clearance to the
07:29utilities that are in the rightway.
07:32[clears throat] In this case, it's
07:34really nothing. Once you're done putting
07:35road in and you're ditching to the side
07:39of the runoff, you don't have much left.
07:43And I guess one of my big concerns is uh
07:47the drawing looks really schematic. I
07:49mean, there's no there's no real
07:53dimensioning or anything. And u I'm very
07:57concerned about uh Ramy and Deie
08:01Martin's house there and how close it
08:03may be. I mean, I'm not so sure this
08:06right away is actually shown where it
08:08is. If anything, I think it should be
08:11state in the area of that house so
08:15people can see. And I think we need to
08:17know if there needs to be some more
08:19screening implemented.
08:21You know, one of the things with uh
08:23[clears throat]
08:24figure rightways is so you can clear
08:27along the edges any kind of trees that
08:29are in danger of falling over and
08:31everything else. In this case, you'd
08:33have to go in someone else's property
08:34and get permission. And
08:37I don't know. I know this has been
08:39existing for years since it was cow
08:41path, but uh
08:44I mean
08:46I'm really concerned that uh the owner
08:50is talking about an engineer and this
08:53obviously isn't an engineer drawing. So
08:55I wonder where this came from. I mean
08:57it's really schematic at this point and
09:00uh I guess I'd like to see something a
09:03little more detailed.
09:05And uh we're talking about a crown in
09:08the middle of the rightway. Well, that's
09:10fine, but that means there's going to be
09:13water going to each side of the
09:15driveway. Where is it going? How's it
09:18handled? I know there's a wetland area
09:20down here on the lower section. Uh how's
09:23that handled? I mean, [clears throat]
09:26we need some more details personally.
09:31>> Can I respond?
09:32>> Yeah, of course. So this this was was
09:34not just a handdrawn. This was an
09:36engineer surveyor Todd Hill. He did all
09:39this work. Um it's a blow up of this
09:42session which was part that we are
09:45talking about
09:47um for for this variance. Um I I need to
09:51remind you that we do have a variance
09:53for this single family
09:57and I did not come here today to reargue
10:00that. I'm not prepared to.
10:02>> Well, we're not arguing about your
10:04house.
10:05>> So, what I'm saying is that it was done
10:06by an engineer
10:08>> who knows what they're doing.
10:10>> Well, it would have been nice if Peter
10:11put his name on the drawing.
10:13>> It's a blow up of what he gave us.
10:15>> Well, then give us the whole draw, you
10:18know. I mean, you look at this and I
10:20anybody could have done this. I don't
10:23know how accurate it is. So, I mean,
10:26that's my concern.
10:28And you know that that boundary line
10:30might be closer to the existing house
10:33[clears throat]
10:34than this is showing. I don't know. I
10:36know it's really tight. I've been up
10:38there to look.
10:41So, uh, that's all I have.
10:45>> I believe we sent
10:48miniaturaturized version of the plan.
10:51It's probably somewhere.
10:55>> Not to me for the dish. No. So unless
10:58it's in the previous files that you have
11:02with me.
11:03>> I didn't bring any
11:08[clears throat]
11:08>> I don't remember it in the previous
11:10submitt.
11:18>> I don't I have not reviewed it. So I
11:20should not
11:26Yeah.
11:27And fortunately, Miss Chimman, we have
11:29some
11:31rules that we have to account for here.
11:34Um, we have to account for the adequacy
11:37of surfacing and the provisions for
11:39runoff and discharge of storm water. We
11:42have to account for the adequacy of
11:44landscaping and screening.
11:47um including adequacy with regard for
11:50achieving maximum compatibility with and
11:53protection for adjacent properties and
11:56publications
11:58and I don't see detail in the drawings
12:00whether we call them engineer drawings
12:03or not
12:05as to those itemiz
12:12and without more
12:17I I don't know how we can make
12:21a decision on this.
12:23>> I mean, I can understand what you're
12:24saying. There is actually a road there.
12:26It's not a compound. Um it's a gravel
12:29road. It's being grown over been going
12:33back and forth for years. We've owned
12:34the property for quite a while.
12:37Um so
12:40there's an existing access that we use.
12:43Um it is a large piece of land um and
12:50probably the last lot available in this
12:53in this development. It was created long
12:55ago as we said earlier. Um
13:00and if this isn't um you need more
13:03information as far as landscaping and
13:06what have you. I personally don't see a
13:08lot of there is by the way there are um
13:11stakes that are showing the rainy
13:13property boundary they've been there
13:15quite last couple years really for those
13:18are there they exist
13:20um
13:22and
13:23I mean because it's fairly tight there
13:25might not be a whole lot of changes that
13:28there is a substantial drop off the left
13:31hand side of Islam the weapons
13:36So there's not a whole lot of what can
13:38happen there for my honest.
13:43So as far as screening, you know, I I
13:47just don't foresee it being an easy
13:49thing to do quite honestly. But if it's
13:53but it's primarily used to access
14:06I think what we're trying to prevent is
14:09I I've seen the road. I know it's tight
14:12and I know that the neighbors are right
14:14there. Um and I remember from last night
14:16that there was concern about how close
14:17it all was. I think what we're trying to
14:19prevent is that this project goes ahead
14:23and there's a discrepancy or there's
14:26some sort of people are are confused
14:27about what's supposed to happen and what
14:29it's supposed to look like and oh well
14:32you know they're excavating all this
14:33land all that dirt ends up on the
14:34neighbor's land. Was that supposed to
14:35happen or they kind of clean it up? I
14:38think
14:40>> I'm sorry I didn't interrupt you. Um I
14:42think
14:44a more detailed drawing of what exactly
14:48is going to happen, where things are
14:50going to be. Um the distances between
14:54the water line and the property line,
14:55the distance between the the water line
14:57and the electrical, [clears throat] you
14:59know, all these different things should
15:00really be clearly marked. So when the
15:03project starts and if an issue were to
15:05come up or somebody were to ask
15:06questions, it's really clear in the
15:09drawing of well this is exactly what the
15:12engineer said was going to happen, this
15:14is exactly where it's supposed to be and
15:16this is where it is, right? It's to kind
15:19of cover everybody's bases so that
15:21nobody kind of has any issues with
15:24what's going on or to try to limit I
15:26should say.
15:28>> Okay. Again, I wasn't coming back here
15:31today to rearview our variance, but
15:33obviously I just wanted to move this
15:36project. Well, it's not even a project.
15:38Why not?
15:39>> I mean, it's it's pretty substantial.
15:41>> No, but at this point in time, we really
15:43it's it's
15:46the final I guess what I'm what am I
15:48trying to say? So
15:52the final permit was to try to do this,
15:55but I when we first saw the condition on
15:59our variance, personally, I assume that
16:02whoever might purchase a property would
16:04probably do all of that
16:06>> and get that last piece of permit
16:09>> and that would be maybe a condition on a
16:12sale. that that was what but I was told
16:14by a few people that we should probably
16:16do this before we actually put it on the
16:18mark and so that's where I am so that's
16:21why I'm here tonight trying to do cross
16:24my tees and dot my eyes
16:26>> I think that makes complete sense but I
16:28think I'm hoping you can kind of see our
16:31obligation to the neighborhood uh that
16:35everything is kind of spelled out in
16:36detail
16:37>> I can I would want to know if I it were
16:41me I would want to Now, I'm not saying
16:43it's the wrong thing to do either,
16:46>> but I'm also, you know, it's not we
16:49originally purchased this maybe our
16:51daughter would build on it quite
16:52honestly and she moved to back to water.
16:57So, as a point of obviously
17:01chunk of
17:04>> I think I'll speak for myself. I think
17:06this project makes a lot of sense. I I
17:08think it's well within your realm to do
17:11this type of work. I think we as a board
17:14just need a little bit more detail
17:16exactly what's going to happen. Um like
17:19my I also have a question about the
17:21electrical pad. I'm so sorry. Um about
17:25the electrical pad and does that need to
17:27be in the setback or is that within the
17:30existing setback?
17:31>> Right.
17:31>> Um it's on the land. I mean,
17:34>> yeah, I know it's on the land, but is it
17:35within the, you know, are you going to
17:36put it within the setback for that
17:39>> area, right?
17:40>> I'm sure
17:42>> we don't know that.
17:44>> Mountain power.
17:46>> Well, it just says,
17:46>> well, it needs to be on like a final
17:48design, a final plat on here so we can
17:50actually see.
17:52>> Can you go to the next side?
17:53>> Yeah, absolutely.
17:55>> Yeah, I think I I think I found whatever
17:56surveys are available, but they don't um
17:59from the previous applications. So add
18:02on a transformer
18:05>> is that within the setback?
18:07>> Um I think it's pretty far in quite
18:10honestly because there's a lot of land
18:11back there.
18:12>> We would just we need to know exactly
18:14where it's actually going to be, right?
18:15So that if you then go ahead and put it
18:18somewhere and somebody says, "Hey, is
18:20this within the setback?" You can
18:22clearly show on the map it's exactly
18:24where it's supposed to be. It's not
18:26within setback. Everything is
18:31up front and all.
18:32>> Okay. I mean, I I get, you know, maybe
18:34what I guess
18:37never been before you guys before. I'm
18:39spirit trying to figure out what you
18:40need. We appreciate
18:42>> and
18:44if um
18:46[clears throat]
18:47perhaps I can have a little more
18:48guidance from Miss Ford as to exactly
18:51what you want and then we can go
18:53forward. I guess again I'm not familiar.
18:56Yeah,
18:56>> when we had this done enough about two
18:58years ago, most of this work was done
19:01and but then zoning administrator left
19:04and I thought I didn't know about it and
19:06so kind of sat by a long time before I
19:09figured out oh so that's why there's a
19:12bit of a delay right now. Um a lot of
19:15this was done two years ago.
19:20So um when we had big mountain power
19:23what they would do with their power we
19:25talked to you know walk you know how do
19:28you do something like this with water
19:31electric stuff was
19:35>> I don't remember quite honestly
19:36>> yeah I think reaching out maybe to the
19:38same engineer to a different engineer
19:40and just saying you know we need
19:42scalable topographic maps
19:44>> a survey
19:46>> um yeah you probably do have them on
19:48file from the We don't have anything in
19:50>> No, there's nothing here.
19:53>> Nothing like that. There's something
19:54from Little River. Look at Todd Hill. I
19:58guess what you need to do really is go
19:59to the film drags and uh look at the
20:04section 301 site plan review, which is
20:08basically why you're here,
20:09>> right?
20:10>> And just look at uh section A, B, and C.
20:14That's the kind of information we're
20:16looking for. I think
20:17>> I mean it is summarized on the site plan
20:19review information form that was
20:21submitted with your application. Okay.
20:23Okay.
20:24>> I mean in all fairness putting up to
20:26your review I noticed the same thing
20:28would be part of anybody.
20:29>> No I'm not I'm not feeling that at all.
20:32I'm just trying to understand what I
20:34what more I need to do
20:36>> and that's basically it.
20:40>> Yeah. No. So that to me makes sense. I'm
20:44not I'm not um you know it's just
20:47something that we we at this point in
20:49time we don't we won't use a lot
20:51ourselves
20:53that happens. So I
20:54>> think the fact that it's just a 12 foot
20:56right away which is really unusual. I
20:59don't think I've ever come across
21:00anything like that. But you're really
21:03limited. And so I think it has to be
21:05bought out as to how you're going to
21:09plow it, how the drainage is going to
21:11work, how you going to protect the
21:13wetlands, how you going to protect your
21:14neighbors from, you know, working.
21:18They're all It's all permitted road
21:20peritted. No,
21:21>> that road is permitted the way it is
21:23now.
21:24>> Yes. Yes. That that 12 foot um Yes. the
21:27curb cut, the um the 12 foot right ofway
21:31access as a driveway. Um those were all
21:35previous permits. Um and the single
21:40family residents, again, although that
21:42permit has expired, all of the necessary
21:44paperwork uh to allow for the
21:47development of that law, including
21:49wetlands considerations, were uh were
21:51reviewed and considered to.
21:53>> So there's a groundwater permit. Yes,
21:56>> that was for
21:58>> Yep.
21:59>> for the road. The rightway the roads
22:02come
22:03>> for the dwelling.
22:04>> Just for the
22:06>> Yeah.
22:06>> I mean, basically the whole road up the
22:10wetland area
22:12would be
22:16>> I think reaching out maybe to the
22:17original engineer that started this.
22:19>> Yeah.
22:20>> Just a little bit more detail.
22:24have them do have them uh do a drawing
22:26that people can point to. Maybe um just
22:29flush out the drawing that's there. Um
22:32that would be
22:34>> No, I mean Okay. And what I might have
22:37then I guess this might withdraw the
22:40application or do I? I don't even know.
22:43>> Yes, we can continue it.
22:46>> Yeah. I don't know how quickly we'll do
22:48this. I don't see the winter coming
22:50soon. It might not be much of anything
22:52this time.
22:55>> Well, that's up to you. I mean,
22:56>> yeah.
22:57>> No, but I'm I'm just lining people up
22:59and seeing how busy they are.
23:02Very quickly or you might consider that,
23:04you know, people are going to go in the
23:06hydro you do if you do it over the
23:09winter ready.
23:10>> Yeah. And that's true. And maybe Todd
23:14may have just enough information and I I
23:16part of me think more data but they're
23:20really big class shrink down your
23:24computers.
23:26>> The engineers are generally able to
23:29provide digital copies that are
23:31reasonable resolution. Um and then also
23:34what we can take the large the large
23:37plat um on paper and just for the the
23:40DRB's u information reminder for those
23:44of you who are there at the time um when
23:46the variance
23:48um was approved.
23:51The conditions were there shall be no
23:53further subdivision of the property.
23:56Property development is limited to
23:58single family, excuse [clears throat]
23:59me, single family residential uses. All
24:03utilities shall be underground due to
24:04the narrowness of the right of way and
24:08development within the right of way
24:09shall be reviewed by the DRB under site
24:12planning.
24:15>> Um, be mind reaches out to you about a
24:19continu, you know, maybe reach out to an
24:21engineer, see what their time frame is,
24:23talk to, you know, who whomever else.
24:25Um, and if you want to see about a
24:28continuence or whatever makes sense for
24:31you.
24:31>> Okay.
24:32>> That engineer might have a lot of
24:34>> I think he's already got it. And again,
24:37I apologize, but it was
24:42>> I just it can be confusing.
24:43>> It is confusing and I appreciate your
24:45time. I feel like I might have wasted
24:47your time, but um,
24:49>> you furthered your process.
24:51>> So, that's fun. I have stuff that I have
24:53to do anyway. So glad you do. Um no, so
24:57I will um take this all in consideration
25:01and um with my husband who probably
25:05tonight.
25:06>> Thank you so much.
25:07>> Thank you. Thank you.
25:09>> Is there anybody from the public that
25:11wishes to speak tonight?
25:15I will retain your word and that I do
25:18think I'm a neighbor not an adjoining
25:20neighbor but I'm given and I do think
25:22that it's important to maintain
25:24integrity
25:26that project is so small
25:30and there's no place in my opinion for
25:32screens or any planting degrees
25:36property and um be a little more
25:39technical
25:41run that I do that one should be in
25:46front of any other.
25:53Anybody online?
25:56No. Okay.
25:59>> Oh, sorry. I didn't see. Maybe come up
26:01just so we can all [clears throat] hear
26:03you. Sorry. I meant to say that to the
26:05and just state your name.
26:07>> Microphones.
26:08>> My name is Bindy Bon. actually heard me.
26:12Um I'm concerned about the rightway and
26:16the cresting of the road that land
26:18underneath this web. Um
26:22he's already had a wall and a half
26:27collapse because of the weather.
26:30So where the snow is going to go,
26:34I just I don't know where all this is
26:37going to happen in that span, you know?
26:40I mean, it's like 10 ft away from the
26:43hill.
26:44>> Yeah.
26:44>> So, it's really
26:46>> Well, and it's not a gravel road.
26:49>> Yeah. I, you know, I think that's where
26:50an engineer putting some thought into it
26:52and, you know, redoing the road would
26:55very well may help that. So, but we
26:59appreciate. Thank you.
27:02>> Okay. Thank you.
27:04>> Thank you. And hopefully I'll see you
27:07all again.
27:07>> Okay.
27:08>> Thank you.
27:09>> All right.
27:17>> Thank you.
27:18>> Take care.
27:27Thank you.
27:28>> Thank you.
27:32There's certainly plenty of examples
27:34that are on file of how that's been done
27:37and what should be on a drawing.
27:40That was very inadequate with
27:42information
27:43>> that that might
27:45have set up properly.
27:47>> I it
27:48might not that I feel bad that she's
27:51really put back on. Um,
27:55>> and I don't know what technical like
27:58technically I don't have the background
28:01to know how adequate that was for what
28:03we were considering.
28:04>> Sure.
28:05>> Well, I mean, as Brooks brought up, it's
28:07kind of in black and white. You follow
28:09the
28:10>> Yeah.
28:10>> Sorry.
28:12>> Still Yeah.
28:13>> Yep.
28:13>> Yep.
28:16>> All right. So, we have two decisions.
28:18Yeah. You're not free yet.
28:20>> No. No. We have two decisions to approve
28:26from the last time I can get those
28:27permits issued. Normally, you know, I
28:29like to move faster on that, but um
28:32yeah, gang busters lately.
28:36Um
28:39so, but y'all are being very patient on
28:42the applicant end.
28:58muted but I wasn't here last
29:19Harry calling
29:21I'm glad we got that.
29:27>> We are recording.
29:29>> Oh, I'm sorry.
29:45I feel like I'm getting a point for JR
29:47where
29:49the same properties coming back. I feel
29:52like I've run through all the
29:53properties.
29:54>> Yeah. [clears throat]
29:58But probably been through like six times
30:00at this point.
30:02>> Yeah. What scares me is when we look at
30:03those overlays, you know, how off those
30:06boundaries are and it certainly looks
30:09like the rightway is a lot further from
30:12that house on that overview than it
30:15shows everywhere else. That's 15. Yeah.
30:23>> Did we note that we um about the water
30:26heater?
30:27>> Yeah.
30:27>> In the garage.
30:28>> Yes.
30:41>> Maybe come on comment on the unapproved
30:44general minutes from August 5th. as at
30:47that moment those look correct.
30:52>> Wasn't there wasn't there something
30:53about water that we wanted to include in
30:56that um mentioned
30:58>> in the in the one3 decision
31:01>> in the drink water.
31:03>> Yeah, it's in the conditions.
31:04>> Yeah. Yeah.
31:05>> It had to be stuck above
31:10>> and all the all the electric,
31:15right? Yeah.
31:16>> Yeah, it's in there.
31:17>> No, I'm I'm just not finding it. I'm so
31:20>> It's just I'm just I'm just rehashing in
31:23my brain.
31:26>> There's not
31:29[clears throat] garage though.
31:31>> It's not a conditioned garage.
31:34>> It's okay to have a hot water heater.
31:37>> Well, we don't know that. I mean, they
31:39may have conditioned it. It's not. Maybe
31:43they plan to. I mean, we weren't the
31:45ones that asked to move the water heater
31:47out there.
31:49>> Oh, no. We just said if you put it out
31:51there, this is hard. Okay.
33:45Yeah,
33:45>> I'm assuming that Rudy signed up on this
33:48water connection
33:52>> or we just
33:54>> uh Yeah, it's all
33:56>> Is it?
33:57>> Yeah, I'll double check.
33:58>> I just didn't see that. I
34:01I'll double check.
34:02>> Is it I I didn't see it. I didn't notice
34:05it.
34:12I'll get these four ready to go.
34:21No, I don't want to go home.
34:25I don't for
34:32like I could just go bar girl.
34:37That was my plan.
34:39>> I have something.
34:57So, in the September minutes, I'm just
34:59um there are some errors to names either
35:01spellings or just incorrect.
35:05Um, [clears throat]
35:12I'm just cleaning up.
35:26>> Um, can I ask a question about maybe
35:29Hill the barn? Mhm.
35:33>> Didn't that go from
35:36a 19 ft to 29 ft high?
35:42>> They are going to have to They're
35:43They're going to have to reapply.
35:45>> They're going to have to reapply.
35:46>> Got it. Got it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's
35:49>> So, yeah. Their dimensions are changing.
35:52>> We're just All we're doing is approving
35:54what happened.
35:55>> Yeah. Sure.
35:58The August 5th August 5th.
36:03Sorry.
36:04>> No, no, no, no. I just I hadn't gotten a
36:07chance to I usually review these for
36:10names, attendance, etc.
36:12>> I uh almost said,
36:17>> okay, you were there.
36:21>> Thank you.
36:23Now that's all you know.
36:31>> Good one everybody.
36:35>> How's am I?
36:42>> We do all several.
36:46I I would do the decisions and the
36:49minutes as as each
36:54>> anybody
36:57make a motion.
36:58>> I'll make a motion to move the minutes
37:01by September 2nd
37:08>> August 5th
37:09>> as amended.
37:12>> Second.
37:14>> I'll second.
37:19All in favor
37:25>> just to confirm that um the only
37:27amendment to the August minutes are
37:30adding your name to the agend
37:32Copy. Thank you.
37:35>> Motion to approve the decision.
37:43>> Anybody?
37:45>> I make a motion to approve the decisions
37:49of Barney and Jill drinkwater and real
37:53Victoria Comr.
37:57>> As amended.
37:58>> As amended.
38:00We here say
38:07all in favor.
38:11>> Right. So that's okay. So date
38:13abstained. So four to zero one. Um and
38:18again just the only amendments were the
38:21bellington names
38:23on the September second.
38:29Great. Close the meeting at
38:33710.
38:35>> Hello.
38:40>> Sorry.
38:41>> Uh, no. That's okay. Um,
38:44>> recording stopped.
38:46>> Dana Allen came in.
38:49>> Yes. Who wanted our viewers the town
38:54plan? I think you guys have to v that
38:57off the board in the next week or so.
39:00You're done soliciting kinds
39:03of public.
39:04>> Yeah, on the 30th.
39:06>> This question is better as you
39:10>> No, it's not. Do you recall what we owe
39:12him or what he wanted from us? Has
39:14anyone followed up on that? I basically
39:17went online, they voted off, they
39:20commented on, you know, the first days,
39:23>> gave some suggestions and then
39:27>> but the board hasn'ticed.
39:32>> No, I don't I all he was asking and
39:35Cheryl basically said if we have
39:38something we want to have input on and
39:40to go online, we got to do it. So, it's
39:44pretty easy. I don't I don't think you
39:46have to I don't think
39:49that
39:50>> it actually when you get online and you
39:51start looking at it
39:54>> it's clear it's more focused on
39:57responses
39:57>> right
40:00>> so we're officially adjourned then
40:02>> yes Okay.
40:16>> [music]
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