2026-10-21 - Development Review Board

00:13All right. We're going to We're going to

00:16reorganize the agenda this evening.

00:19We're going to start with application

00:210626

00:22the continuance for Stacy Lambert and

00:25Robert Lossy at 549 Lunis Hill Road.

00:29They're requesting amendment of their

00:30previous approval

00:32for setback waiver

00:35at 549 Lunis Hill Road.

00:38Please come up.

00:48>> So, if I recall correctly, we asked you

00:50guys to reassess the location of that so

00:54that you [snorts] did not need to

00:55approach any further into front yard

00:57setback and

00:59what may have been into the side yard

01:00setback.

01:03So,

01:03>> Correct. And so, I will remind you that

01:05you're still sworn in from the previous

01:07hearing.

01:07>> Yes.

01:08>> Yes.

01:09>> Um so, again, thanks for taking time

01:12tonight.

01:13Uh so, we took your advice and we looked

01:15at

01:17not going any further than what we had

01:19on the street side, the front setback.

01:22If we twisted the structure,

01:26which is a little less desirable than

01:28what we had wanted,

01:30if we You have, I guess, two exhibits

01:33that if you look at, I believe it's K

01:35and L,

01:37it'll show.

01:39>> I do have bad news.

01:41Uh the website where that stuff is

01:42posted is down.

01:45Look at the physical copies or what was

01:46it Cheryl said?

01:48>> Are you

01:49Okay. Are you able to see that on Are

01:51they able to see that on their end?

01:52>> They should be.

01:55>> I looked at it earlier, but I don't have

01:57it with me now.

01:58I can come look at it over there.

02:00>> Yeah, come

02:01>> I'll I'll come over there.

02:01>> I have it up.

02:02>> Oh, here we go. There it is.

02:03>> That that that was That that was the

02:05plan I was hoping to see.

02:05>> phone

02:06>> It's very small, but I could

02:16>> Yeah.

02:17>> Okay.

02:19>> Okay.

02:25>> Yeah.

02:25>> Are you Are you based on the drawing

02:27we're seeing, you guys are looking to

02:29encroach?

02:29>> It's got the the yellow the yellow the

02:31yellow highlighting.

02:33>> Yep. Okay.

02:33>> That's that's the side yard

02:34encroachment.

02:36It's about 5 by 10 including overhangs.

02:40>> You But it's it's 5 ft. That's

02:42>> Yes.

02:43>> That's the number we look at.

02:44>> So you went from this

02:45>> Yeah.

02:45>> to this

02:46>> Mhm.

02:46>> with the house. So you're basically a 90

02:48from the house.

02:49>> And you got a 12-ft gap. Okay.

02:51>> And we've held we've held the front yard

02:53setback

02:54>> at 31.

02:55>> Yes.

02:55>> Yeah.

02:59>> All right.

03:01Um

03:03Dave, you have any

03:04follow-up

03:05>> No.

03:05>> questions on this?

03:06>> Nope. I don't have any follow-up

03:07questions. Um

03:09I think they demonstrated what we asked

03:11them to do.

03:13And now we have it

03:14set on

03:15>> it in writing.

03:16>> Yep. Go ahead.

03:17>> Exactly.

03:17>> on the plot plan. So

03:19>> What do you have any

03:21>> Where

03:22Where's the owl?

03:23>> Great question.

03:26Where here in Boise and uh Well, I'm

03:29tensions.

03:30>> Okay.

03:30>> [laughter]

03:31>> Excellent.

03:34Um

03:36So at this point we'll uh entertain a

03:37motion.

03:41So what's your any conclusion?

03:46>> Our conclusion first, right?

03:47>> Yep.

03:48>> Based upon these findings and subject to

03:50conditions set forth below the board can

03:52conclude that their uh proposed project

03:55by Stacy Lambert and Rob DeBlasi for the

03:57front and side setback waiver to

04:00construct a barn at 4 549 Loomis Hill as

04:03presented in application 064-26

04:07and supporting materials

04:09meets the standards and regulations set

04:10forth in sections 303e, 308 503c and 504

04:16of the Waterbury Zoning Regulations

04:18currently in effect.

04:22>> Anything further with all board members?

04:24>> Yes.

04:27On behalf of the Waterbury Development

04:28Review Board, I David Rogers move to

04:31approve application 064-26

04:34with the following requirements.

04:37The applicant shall complete the project

04:39in accordance with the board's findings

04:40and conclusions and approved plans and

04:43exhibits.

04:44>> And any conditions set forth in the

04:47previous approval are still in effect.

04:50>> Yes.

04:52>> So move forward that in writing.

04:54Do we second?

04:55>> I'll second.

04:56>> Seconded by Bud.

04:57All in favor?

04:59>> Aye.

04:59>> Aye.

05:00>> Any opposed?

05:02Great.

05:03Thank you very much.

05:04>> Thank you for coming back.

05:05>> Thanks for working

05:07>> Thank you for helping us.

05:11>> Good night. I appreciate it.

05:12>> Take care.

05:16>> So

05:17EPA is also having a meeting right now,

05:18so I think they stole the town.

05:20>> Oh, that's right. They're down at the

05:21fire.

05:23They're down at the fire station, yeah.

05:24>> Could you have this back to Grace?

05:26>> Yes. All right, next item on the agenda

05:28application 061-26

05:31Blush Hill Country Club owner applicant

05:33at 141 Loomis Hill Trail Waterbury.

05:35Applicant proposes constructing new

05:37storage shed for non-residential use.

05:40All parts of site plan review.

05:45So just so you're aware, we are a

05:46seven-member board. We have four members

05:49present this evening. In order to

05:53gain approval, you need four votes in

05:54the affirmative. If at any point you

05:56wish to continue the hearing till

05:58there's more

05:59members present, that is your right and

06:01you can do so at any time.

06:03>> Great.

06:04>> Thanks.

06:06Please introduce yourselves.

06:07>> Sure. I'm Joe Green. I am a member at

06:10the country club as well as a board

06:11member, and I'm also the project

06:13architect for this project.

06:15>> Okay.

06:17Uh do we have their

06:19um

06:21sample letter and notice to abutters?

06:25>> Yep.

06:27>> Okay.

06:28>> I have the green cards.

06:34>> Okay.

06:37Would you like this, Dave?

06:39I just want to make sure we've got them

06:40in there dated properly.

06:50All right. Let's go over that before.

06:52Okay.

06:52>> Do we have a Is there a plans in there?

06:55>> Yes. [clears throat] Would you like

06:55those out?

06:56>> Yeah. Yep. Since we Sorry, I didn't have

06:57a chance to

06:59>> Yep.

07:06I did look at them earlier.

07:11>> All right. Let's turn it over to All

07:13right. You guys can continue your

07:14introductions.

07:15>> Yeah, sure.

07:17I'm Steve Robinson.

07:18I'm on the board at the club. I'm an

07:20adjoining landowner as well and

07:22currently the president.

07:24Thank you for your time today.

07:25>> And I'm Maurice Lavanture, also a board

07:28member and a member of the club.

07:32>> I heard your introductions earlier, but

07:34I'm sorry.

07:35>> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm Gracie Zeigler.

07:37>> You're Gracie and you're new You're new

07:38town manager. You're town manager.

07:40>> Welcome aboard.

07:41>> Thank you.

07:41>> She's filling in for Cheryl, who is

07:43currently on vacation.

07:46>> I am.

07:47>> No, New Hampshire.

07:48>> New Hampshire now.

07:49>> She hasn't been back from Ireland for a

07:50bit. I

07:52had wished that everyone would meet me

07:53on a more impressive

07:55status, but I'll do my best.

07:57>> Yeah, well, welcome to Waterbury.

07:59>> Thank you.

08:03>> All right.

08:04>> And that goes up to the residents there.

08:07Country club house is up here.

08:11>> Yeah, so

08:12as Dave was just saying, essentially

08:15what we're proposing is to build a 40 by

08:1760-ish

08:20storage shed, which is a cold storage

08:23building, a place where we can store the

08:24golf carts and the lawn mowing equipment

08:27in the winter.

08:28Right now we have really no place to do

08:30that. We have a kind of under-building

08:33garage in the existing clubhouse where

08:35we store most of that stuff. And then we

08:37have a little storage garage up by the

08:40house that's in the middle of the golf

08:41course.

08:42And they're hopeful that we get rid of

08:44that shack cuz it's falling down.

08:46So presently, if you're familiar with

08:48everybody familiar with the golf course

08:50at all? Okay. So Blush Hill runs along

08:53the bottom of the map. Wilson Trail runs

08:55this way and this is the existing

08:57country club pro shop and club house.

09:00And then this tract

09:02is the golf course.

09:04There is a driveway off of Blush Hill

09:07that goes up to the single residence

09:09that's kind of surrounded by the golf

09:11course, the Lindy residence. You might

09:12be familiar with that.

09:13>> Yes.

09:14>> We currently have a maintenance area

09:17here where we do kind of like our

09:19equipment wash down after mowing. We

09:22stockpile debris and stumps and waste

09:25grass and stuff like that.

09:27So the site proposed for the building

09:30would be in this area. So of course we

09:32come in, we clean out that debris, we

09:34bench it, we grade it. It's a slab

09:38um and we would put the building there.

09:40The building's basically a prefab

09:42Quonset hut. So, one of our members has

09:44generously donated this thing to us

09:47uh to give us a chance to try to

09:48construct this building. As you may or

09:50may not know,

09:51we're a community golf course, and we

09:53obviously live on a very lean budget.

09:56So, expenses like this are certainly a

09:58challenge for us, and so with the help

10:00of members, some donated service and

10:02time, and of course this building, we we

10:05feel like we're in a position now where

10:06we can create this structure,

10:08which has been long needed. So,

10:10presently we store all of our golf carts

10:12outside, and then in the wintertime,

10:15believe it or not, we pack them onto the

10:17porch of the clubhouse inside. And Mo

10:21does most of that, which uh takes a lot

10:23of buttering, but they get in there.

10:26Um but like I said, our tractors, our

10:27lawnmowers,

10:29they take up all the area in our little

10:30maintenance shop, and so then there's no

10:32place to work on them. So, the goal is

10:34to get all that stuff into this cold

10:36storage barn, which again, in the

10:38wintertime, it would be filled with the

10:40equipment. It's really an unoccupied

10:42building. It's not intended to be like a

10:44maintenance building, cuz all that

10:46maintenance would still happen in this

10:47little garage under here.

10:49>> So, you're not going to be storing no

10:50fuel or anything there?

10:52>> Well, we have two outdoor fuel tanks now

10:55that are next to the Lindy's house. We

10:57have a diesel tank and a gas tank that

11:00we use to fill our equipment with. We

11:01would put those down in front of this

11:04building. I can show you the floor plan,

11:06uh might make it easier to understand.

11:10The building itself

11:14is about 40 by 56. So, if you can see

11:18this outline,

11:20this would represent the building shell,

11:22but we plan to extend that slab out a

11:24little bit, and that's how it makes it a

11:26little over 60. We plan on storing those

11:28tanks on that slab, so that the roof of

11:30the Quonset hut will stand out over kind

11:33of like a lean-to.

11:34>> Yeah.

11:35>> So it's an outdoor area, but it would

11:37cover those tanks, so kind of protect

11:39them from snow and ice and rain and that

11:42kind of stuff. So those would be

11:44outdoors. They would not be in the

11:45building.

11:45>> And and they're the they're the same

11:46tanks that are there now?

11:47>> Yeah. Yeah, we're just moving them down

11:49to there.

11:50So as you can see, it's pretty simple

11:52structure. You know, it's just a half

11:54dome classic Quonset Hut.

11:57Uh and we'd have a garage door on each

11:59end, so we could pull equipment through

12:01and then a man door on each end, so

12:03people can get in and out of it. It is

12:04planned to be a cold storage building at

12:06this point. We will bring water into it,

12:09just so we can have water available to

12:12hose things down [clears throat] or

12:13whatever.

12:14Um

12:14but we are not doing like uh wintertime

12:17use or anything like that in the

12:18building. So we'll have to winterize it

12:19just like we do the rest of the club. So

12:22this time of year we start closing

12:23things down, turning off water, that

12:25kind of stuff, cuz the club is closed

12:27all winter as well.

12:29Um

12:31So that's kind of a highlight. Uh like I

12:33said, back to the site plan, there's an

12:35existing driveway that comes up from

12:37Blush Hill. That would be the intended

12:40access point for any

12:42random delivery we might have, but most

12:45of our deliveries will all come to the

12:47to the clubhouse throughout the summer.

12:49And then we will use that and we'll

12:50transport things over to the

12:53to the shed if we're storing something

12:54over there.

12:55Um but we are and we're in close contact

12:58with the Lindys. They're all, you know,

13:00they're in favor of it cuz hey, they

13:01want to get rid of the crappy little

13:02garage that we're using now next to

13:04their place.

13:06Um

13:07and so yeah, pretty straightforward.

13:11>> Okay.

13:12Nice job, Joe.

13:13>> Thanks, Mike.

13:14>> [laughter]

13:16>> Dave, do you have questions?

13:16>> Uh are you planning on putting any

13:18dumpsters around that?

13:20>> We are not. Our dumpsters right now are

13:22housed up by the clubhouse and for For

13:25foreseeable future, we wouldn't see a

13:26need to put any

13:28>> Yeah.

13:28>> No large containers. We might have a

13:29couple of 55-gallon trash cans inside

13:32and if those get filled, we'll put them

13:33on a the superintendent cart and bring

13:35them to the dumpster kind of thing.

13:36>> [snorts]

13:37>> What is the outside of the Quonset hut?

13:40Is it the typical metal like aluminum?

13:42>> Yeah, it's galvalume. So, it's that

13:44silvery looking

13:46>> Okay.

13:47>> color.

13:49>> [snorts]

13:50>> All right.

13:51>> And and just in case I didn't mention it

13:52earlier, there are a lot of uh trees and

13:55mature trees around this maintenance

13:56area. That's kind of why it's our

13:58maintenance area now cuz it's screened

13:59from everywhere and it's literally like

14:02in the middle of the golf course. So,

14:03the closest property line I think is 340

14:06ft away.

14:07So, we we easily meet all the setbacks,

14:09of course.

14:10>> I think that

14:11it will attenuate

14:12>> It does. Yeah, over time.

14:15>> That was all I had there.

14:18>> [clears throat]

14:18>> What?

14:18>> Wow,

14:20it's pretty complicated building.

14:21>> I know. Very [laughter] very difficult.

14:23>> That's No, I don't have any questions.

14:27Can you see Are are you going to be able

14:29to see this structure from Washoe Road?

14:32>> Yeah, I would say you'd be able to see

14:34it, but from Washoe Road,

14:37um our first fairway comes down the hill

14:39beside this thing and at the top of the

14:41first fairway, there are several very

14:43large mature northern white pine trees

14:46and that is right along the edge of this

14:48waste area. So, it will definitely

14:52substantially screen that building, but

14:54to say you won't be able to see it, I

14:55mean

14:56>> Yeah.

14:57>> Yeah.

14:58You'll see it.

14:58>> You won't have to take any of those

15:00trees out?

15:02>> Correct.

15:02>> as part of construction.

15:03>> Correct. The only There's There's one

15:05large Is it a beech tree?

15:08>> Poplar tree back in this corner, which

15:10is up on the uphill side and our second

15:12fairway or our second rough.

15:15Um

15:16We got to take that down just cuz it's

15:18in the corner of the building, but all

15:19the other mature trees will stay.

15:22>> And the Lindy's were delighted with that

15:24because it uh blocks a little bit of

15:25their view of the

15:27>> Mount Hunger, yeah.

15:28>> Oh, right. Yeah, that's funny.

15:29>> Blocks some golf balls, too.

15:32>> [laughter]

15:32>> Not always.

15:34>> Not if you're as good as I am.

15:36>> [laughter]

15:39>> Um any outside lighting on the

15:41structure?

15:42>> Uh what we've talked about is

15:44potentially putting a downcast and

15:46shielded shoebox stake fixture over the

15:49overhead doors. And those would be on

15:50motion sensors. So, obviously, as you

15:53know, we're a summertime operation. And

15:55for the most part, this building will

15:58only be used in the summertime to house

16:00the lawn mowing equipment, which is an

16:02early morning operation for us. So, our

16:03guys are up there at 5:30 and they're

16:05usually out of there by noon. So, uh we

16:08would put motion sensor downcast

16:10shielded lights just for security and

16:12kind of vandalism protection.

16:16Uh but we don't need much light out

16:17there cuz it's it's a daytime operation

16:20for us.

16:21>> Sure.

16:22That's all I have, David.

16:23>> Thanks.

16:33>> So, you're relocating the So, is is this

16:35everything being moved away from the

16:37Lindy

16:38property at this point?

16:40>> Well, so there's one kind of garage that

16:43we use that they're going to ask us to

16:45remove. So, we're going to tear that

16:46down. So, the only other thing are the

16:47two tanks.

16:49>> They're going to be moving the tanks.

16:50>> So, but your operations as a whole will

16:52be

16:53out of out of there.

16:55>> Correct. I mean, there's still an

16:56outbuilding on their quote-unquote

16:59property,

17:01uh but we don't use that building right

17:02now.

17:03>> Okay.

17:05>> So, they they they they they basically

17:07own an island inside

17:08>> They 100% do.

17:10And it's a beautiful little island.

17:12>> It's going to It's going to be a silly

17:13question. I'm just going on the record.

17:14Do you have rights to this driveway

17:16for access.

17:18>> Yes.

17:18>> Yeah, okay.

17:21And then

17:24the tanks are going to go on which side

17:26of the building?

17:27>> They're on the south end. So on the

17:29driveway side.

17:31>> side? On concrete pads?

17:33>> Well, it'll be part of the building

17:34slab. So we're basically making the

17:36building slab large enough for them to

17:38sit on.

17:38>> And and and the area in which

17:42equipment is fueled, that will also be

17:44on concrete or will that be on gravel?

17:46>> Uh

17:47it'll be on gravel.

17:49>> Where the fuel

17:49>> Yeah, like we do now. Yeah.

17:55>> Can I see the picture that you're

17:57showing?

17:59>> Do we have it electronically?

18:01>> I

18:02>> Uh unfortunately, we don't have it

18:04electronically.

18:06>> Yeah, it's beautiful.

18:07>> It's behind that tree there.

18:09>> [laughter]

18:09>> That's the water we need.

18:11Right?

18:13The water has

18:15I I don't know how to share a picture on

18:17the screen.

18:17>> I I I don't think we have the ability

18:18because our our owl is being utilized.

18:21>> Rob for the other meeting.

18:22>> Oh, somebody stole our owl.

18:24>> Uh if you wanted to pass it down, I

18:26could hold it over like this.

18:28>> I'm happy to pass it down if you want to

18:29hold it in front of your camera so they

18:31might be able to see it. Sometimes

18:32that's a little awkward, but

18:35it's better than a poke in the eye with

18:36a sharp stick.

18:37>> I mean, I can understand why you want

18:38everybody to see that photo.

18:41drawing, Joe.

18:42>> So can you guys see that?

18:46Maybe back it

18:47>> On my side.

18:49I don't know if I can make you big. Can

18:51I make you big?

18:53Right now, I just have the

18:58Oh, here. Let me stop sharing cuz this

19:00should help.

19:00>> There you go.

19:01>> Okay.

19:02>> That's good.

19:03Now it's too close.

19:04>> Too close?

19:05>> Okay.

19:08>> So if you can see my pen,

19:10>> Yes, I can see your pen.

19:11>> this is the proposed location of the

19:13building.

19:14>> Yeah.

19:14>> This is Blush Hill down here.

19:17>> Yeah.

19:17>> And Lonesome Trail.

19:19>> Yeah.

19:19>> This is the existing golf course

19:21clubhouse.

19:22>> Uh-huh.

19:22>> And then this is the little house on the

19:24island we've been referring to up here.

19:26>> Yeah.

19:26>> So, we would

19:28put the the structure here.

19:31And um most of the access to it's going

19:33to be from the golf course side, but on

19:35occasion we may have a small pickup

19:38truck or something go up there.

19:39Obviously, we'll probably plow it in the

19:41winter. Right now, um who plows the

19:44Lindy's drive? Do you do that, Mo?

19:45So, Mo plows the Lindy's driveway now.

19:48Um so, we would maintain access to that

19:50building

19:51>> to get off that hill.

19:52>> fire department access and things like

19:53that.

19:54>> Okay.

19:55>> Okay.

19:58And the old building you're talking

19:59about that you're going to knock down is

20:01the old clubhouse, isn't it?

20:03>> No, it's at the Lindy's house. So, if

20:05you can see my pen again.

20:06>> Yeah.

20:07>> So, there's a little garage

20:09right

20:11>> Yeah.

20:11>> It's probably

20:12>> bought the land around it

20:13>> It's not the clubhouse. The clubhouse is

20:15over here.

20:16>> No, no, no, no.

20:17>> owned by the governor, Dilling. Dilling

20:20came

20:21I

20:22as a summer home like back years and

20:24years ago.

20:25Um and then they rebuilt

20:27>> Hold on, guys. Hold on. Can't quite hear

20:29you.

20:29>> Sorry.

20:29>> So, the old clubhouse is what you're

20:31referring to?

20:32>> Yes.

20:33>> Yeah, so there's a

20:34>> It'd be up there. The little shack.

20:36>> Right, there there used to be a little

20:38pro shop that was right behind the

20:40house.

20:41>> Right. That's still there.

20:42>> That's staying for now. Um and then

20:45there's a garage below it, if you will.

20:48That's the part that we're taking down.

20:50>> Okay.

20:51>> Yep, but the little pro shop stays there

20:53for now.

20:54>> Okay. Who owns that garage? You guys?

20:58>> I believe we own the garage. Yes, it's

21:00on our property.

21:01>> Depends on which garage you're talking

21:03about.

21:03>> Right.

21:04>> There's the the Lindy's have a very nice

21:07garage they built and that is on their

21:09property.

21:10>> Yes.

21:10>> That's what I thought.

21:11>> And that's staying.

21:12>> And that is staying. That's theirs and

21:14and we're not going to tear that down.

21:16>> I'm glad.

21:17I'm glad.

21:18>> But there there is but there is a

21:20building beside of it that we store our

21:23uh couple of pieces of equipment and and

21:26that is the one that we'd be tearing

21:28down because that's it's it's tired and

21:31an eyesore to the Lindy's.

21:33>> Okay, got it. Makes sense.

21:36And how are you going to access

21:40from the clubhouse

21:42over to the new building?

21:45If you're going to go over the golf

21:46course, you're just going to go over the

21:48golf course on the grass?

21:49>> Yes. Yeah, our superintendents and our

21:51greenskeepers, you know, they use their

21:53equipment to traverse the golf course

21:55all the time. So, again, the golf carts

21:58themselves, they basically will go in in

22:01the winter

22:02and then they'll come out and be out all

22:03summer by the clubhouse. Those don't go

22:05back and forth, but for fueling

22:07periodically, we have to fill up the

22:09golf carts. And then the tractors,

22:11they'll come the golf the superintendent

22:13will drive his buggy out to the shed,

22:15get on the lawnmower,

22:16do his thing, put the lawnmower away,

22:18get back on his buggy, come back to the

22:20clubhouse.

22:22>> Okay.

22:23>> So, your maintenance staff won't be

22:24won't be parking.

22:26>> Is there

22:27Is there a big rock still down there?

22:30>> There are several rocks in the first

22:32fairway.

22:33>> You have a little bit You have a You

22:35have a little bit of a

22:37uh You have a turnoff up there now.

22:40Right?

22:41>> Off of the driveway?

22:42>> Off of the off of this driveway, yeah.

22:45>> Yep.

22:45>> You have Don't you have a Okay, isn't

22:47there a big rock there?

22:49>> I don't think so. There's there's a pile

22:51of debris, but I There's no large rock.

22:54>> There's also a large large

22:56There is a large pile of sand

22:59that we that we have dumped there and a

23:01canvas that covers the sand.

23:04>> Down by the cart path on one.

23:07That's next to the driveway.

23:09>> Oh, down by the water.

23:10There's a stone there.

23:11Oh, stone there.

23:12>> Is that where Okay.

23:13>> No, that's So, that's down That's down

23:15here. So, this this little gray line is

23:18actually the cart path for the golf

23:19course. But, our our little building is

23:22up here.

23:22>> Okay, got it.

23:23>> You're right. There is a big rock. It's

23:25just it's down by

23:26>> Yep, by a black chair.

23:28>> fairway. Right.

23:29>> Okay.

23:30I like that rock.

23:32>> [laughter]

23:33>> You don't know who you're talking to.

23:35>> Okay.

23:35>> A rock lover.

23:36>> Uh well, I would I was about to ask,

23:38could I get your name?

23:41>> Do I have to give it?

23:42>> Yes, you are you are testifying in this

23:44in this proceeding. You will

23:45>> My name is Carol Chase Hardy.

23:48>> Carol Chase Hardy. Thank you, Carol.

23:50>> You're welcome. I was

23:52I'm down at the bottom of the hill.

23:56Uh

23:57>> Yep.

23:57>> The house that's having construction.

24:00>> You're you're 721.

24:02>> Right.

24:02>> Okay.

24:04>> I grew up there.

24:06That's why I know about these roads and

24:08the rocks.

24:12>> [snorts]

24:14>> Okay, looks good.

24:18>> All right.

24:18>> Thank you very much.

24:19>> You're welcome.

24:21Any further anything further from the

24:22board?

24:23>> [clears throat]

24:23>> Not for me.

24:25I'm good.

24:26>> Okay.

24:27Um we feel we have enough information

24:31>> [clears throat]

24:31>> to make a decision.

24:33>> I do.

24:33>> All right.

24:35This will entertain a conclusion.

24:41Whoops.

24:44Hold on.

24:46Actually, one one one last question.

24:47Sorry.

24:48>> Yeah.

24:48>> Um the tanks, they're

24:50500 gallons?

24:52>> 250s, I think.

24:53>> 250s. They take how many? Okay.

24:54>> Yeah, they sit on legs.

24:56Yeah.

24:58Probably not

24:59in compliance with any sort of rules.

25:01So, they've probably been probably owned

25:03for forever.

25:04>> They've been there quite a while.

25:05>> They've been there for a minute, yeah.

25:09>> You good?

25:09>> I'm good.

25:10>> Based upon these findings and subject to

25:12the conditions set forth below, the

25:14board can

25:15concludes that the proposed project by

25:17Blushell Country Club for a Quonset

25:19storage hut has presented an application

25:21061-26

25:23and supporting materials meets the

25:25criteria set forth in sections 301F,

25:29503C, and 504 of the Waterbury Zoning

25:32Regulations.

25:34>> Good with the board?

25:36>> Yes.

25:37>> Okay.

25:37>> I'll entertain a motion.

25:38>> On behalf of the Waterbury Development

25:40Review Board, I David Rogers move to

25:44approve application 061-26

25:46with the following requirements. The

25:48applicant shall complete the project in

25:50accordance with the board findings

25:52and conclusions and the improved plans

25:54and exhibits.

25:56>> We don't need to add anything.

25:57>> All lighting will be downcast and

25:59shielded.

26:01>> and shielded as you stated.

26:04I think that was what we needed to do.

26:06>> Do I hear a second?

26:08>> I second the motion.

26:09>> By Brooks?

26:10All in favor?

26:12>> I.

26:13>> Opposed?

26:16>> Good job, guys.

26:16>> Thank you.

26:17>> Thank you for your time.

26:19>> Thank you very much.

26:20>> Sounds like it's well needed up there.

26:22>> Yes, it's Yeah, they need it for a

26:24while.

26:25>> time. [clears throat] So, we're very

26:26fortunate that the member was

26:28>> Yeah, that's pretty big donation.

26:30>> Yeah, it's a brand new unit, too. It's

26:31never been erected. So,

26:33it's been sitting in one of his barns.

26:36Yes. Yes, it will. Yeah.

26:38>> That that We wondered about that.

26:40>> Yes, we asked about that.

26:41>> I'll tell you there are a lot of Quonset

26:42huts.

26:46>> Oh, really?

26:47>> Oh, yeah.

26:48>> Yeah, we don't want that to happen.

26:49>> No.

26:50>> For sure.

26:50>> Especially with Joe name, I don't know.

26:52>> Yeah.

26:53>> Joe.

26:55>> Joe will make sure it doesn't happen.

26:56>> He has to stay in the room.

26:58>> That's right.

26:59>> Play my last round on Monday and I'm

27:01already

27:02>> What was that?

27:02>> dreaming of for next week.

27:03>> [laughter]

27:04>> Next season.

27:05>> Yeah, no, it's it's amazing how fast it

27:07goes by and then

27:08>> So you played up at Bluffs?

27:09>> I actually I have never played there.

27:11No, I I played a charity event down in

27:13Massachusetts.

27:14>> Oh, down in Massachusetts?

27:14>> Um

27:15but it was like hitting my drive on the

27:18on the last hole was like, this is

27:20>> Yeah, eight months.

27:21>> Yeah, yeah, unless you travel somewhere,

27:23right?

27:23>> Yeah.

27:24>> Hey, so as an aside, I don't know if

27:26Neil

27:27or Cheryl told you guys about the scam

27:29email we got.

27:30>> Yes, that that did come.

27:32>> So that was that was really crazy to

27:36think that that would happen.

27:37Um but very sophisticated, you know,

27:39whoever did it, they obviously [snorts]

27:41have a thing going.

27:42>> I don't know if everybody knows, but

27:43there's

27:44I guess the Northfield got hacked.

27:47>> Oh, really?

27:47>> And there's a big scam going around for

27:50East Rise now and there's zeroing in on

27:52Waterbury.

27:53>> Oh, boy.

27:53>> And what they do is uh you'll get a call

27:56and it'll have

27:58a phone number and it'll have the East

28:00Rise logo and East Rise looks totally

28:03legit.

28:04And somebody's going to tell you that uh

28:07there's been suspicious activity on your

28:09account

28:10and they need you to call this number

28:13for the bank

28:14and they're going to freeze your account

28:16and you got to get your debit card and

28:19and

28:20when you call that number, the person

28:22that answers says they're East Rise

28:24Credit Union.

28:25A number of people have gotten lost a

28:28lot of money.

28:29>> Oh, no, my goodness.

28:30>> What surprises me, nobody's

28:31>> Right, you see as soon as you give them

28:33that account number to freeze, they're

28:34>> And debit cards aren't covered by like a

28:36credit card, so they're they're not

28:37getting that money back.

28:38>> You would think they would

28:40let everybody know. I haven't seen

28:41anything about

28:43>> It just happened. They almost got my

28:44wife did that day.

28:45>> Really?

28:46>> When you call them, the person on the

28:47other end says, "I want to start by

28:48verifying your information. Give me your

28:50account information." That's when I'm

28:52like, "Yeah, no."

28:54Well, they do this a lot. You asked me

28:55to call you.

28:56>> This poor woman that I know lost $4,000.

28:58And what it was, her husband had just

29:01died and she was a mess.

29:03So

29:05>> Oh, that's so strong.

29:06>> Yeah, they do it cuz it works,

29:08unfortunately.

29:09>> And they're very aggressive.

29:10>> And and that my first reaction at

29:12looking at what was posted was,

29:14"Well, Waterbury's charging a lot for an

29:15application, but I guess that's what we

29:17have to pay." That was my you know

29:18>> [laughter]

29:18>> What did they ask you?

29:19>> Well, I'll tell you $3,500?

29:21>> Oh, Well, yeah. And and not what

29:23what made it worse was So, I met with

29:25Cheryl, right?

29:27Pre-application. I said, "Hey, I'm

29:29assuming we could do this

29:30administratively."

29:32And she was like, "Yeah, should be able

29:34to." So, we did the whole kind of here's

29:37the check amount, you know, just send in

29:39the check. So, I went back to our

29:41treasurer and the check amount was like

29:42$1,000, right?

29:44Which we went Cheryl and I went through

29:46all the numbers, it was $1,000.

29:49Got the check wrote, brought it in,

29:51handed in the application, and then it

29:53was like 2 weeks later.

29:56They don't send the email to me either,

29:57they send it to our general email

29:59account, which is our treasurer gets,

30:02and the bookkeeper, and she was like she

30:05sent it to us saying, "Hey, I just got

30:07this invoice from Blue Shield."

30:10And it was $3,100.

30:12And I was like

30:13And I'm reading through it and there's

30:15like bills for um

30:17uh occupancy inspections and and things

30:20that we don't Things that you guys don't

30:22do. Obviously, they're not from around

30:24here.

30:25But but then I'm like I'm like, "God

30:26damn it, Waterbury's going to hell. Now

30:28our permitting's going to hell." So, I'm

30:30like, "Neil, what the heck is going on?"

30:32And I'm I sent him a I said like, "I

30:34hate to be grumpy, but

30:36you didn't even give us You didn't even

30:37give us credit for our $1,000 we've

30:39already paid."

30:40>> [laughter]

30:41>> I was like, "What are we doing?"

30:43>> This architecture stuff is scaring me.

30:44>> It should. I'm telling you.

30:45>> You and me both.

30:46>> I'm right up here, but well, I haven't I

30:48haven't been able to find the exit door

30:49yet. I got to get there.

30:50>> Oh, brother.

30:52>> My golf [clears throat] game's not

30:53helping me.

30:54>> When this When this gets published

30:56inside

30:57>> Oh, yeah.

30:57>> You'll have all kinds of publicity. So

31:00much

31:00work, you won't be able to leave town.

31:02>> You'll be right on the cover of design

31:04and construction magazine.

31:06>> I'm pretty sure.

31:07>> Here's the plans that I had designed.

31:09>> [laughter]

31:10>> If you put one trendy window in there,

31:12you'll be able to get on there.

31:13>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah,

31:15exactly.

31:16>> Thank you all, guys.

31:19>> [laughter]

31:20>> Thanks for you, too. Pop by whenever.

31:24Welcome.

31:25>> Yeah.

31:26>> Yeah, good luck, guys.

31:27>> Thank you.

31:28>> Thanks.

31:28>> Clean up before we

31:29>> Might as well.

31:30>> Um so, the next item on the on the

31:32agenda is application 060-26

31:36for an O'Reilly Auto

31:38at 5430

31:40Waterbury

31:41Stowe Road in Waterbury Center. The

31:42application

31:44application proposes to construct a pole

31:45barn for the storage of

31:47of construction materials and contractor

31:49staging. Application requires site plan

31:51review.

31:52Uh my understanding is

31:55Bud Wilson is the representative for the

31:57applicant. As such, we do not I see pole

32:00barn versus

32:02>> Well, take a look at my drawing, Chuck.

32:05>> We won't be.

32:06>> Sorry to interrupt.

32:08>> As such, we do not have a quorum for

32:10this application with only three members

32:12present.

32:14This application will need to be

32:15continued to

32:18What's our next meeting date? November

32:21>> Yes, November, first Wednesday in

32:22November.

32:30>> November 4th.

32:31We need to November 4th at 6:30.

32:38All in favor?

32:39>> Aye.

32:40>> Aye.

32:42>> And give a vote.

32:42>> Sorry, bud.

32:43>> [laughter]

32:45>> Nay.

32:46>> Yay.

32:47>> Dave, I did notice one little thing in

32:48finding the facts. I know probably talk

32:50to Cheryl about it. She's saying there's

32:52a

32:53unlocked one that is that building that

32:55we had approved.

32:56>> Yeah, the

32:57take it up with Cheryl.

32:58>> I will.

32:59>> That would be

33:00>> Oh, yeah.

33:00>> Honestly, I was talking

33:01>> There's also some

33:02>> I was talking to you about it would be a

33:04>> Yeah, there's also some

33:05>> part of the communication. So.

33:06>> Yeah.

33:07Brenda's not going to be happy, but it's

33:09how it goes.

33:11>> I can't do anything about it.

33:13>> I know.

33:14Probably Harry got busy and still with

33:16their 1,700 projects going on.

33:18>> I'm sure.

33:19>> We got stuck [clears throat] in traffic.

33:20>> want to she didn't want to steal my

33:21phone again.

33:22>> Yeah, yeah, yeah,

33:23>> [laughter]

33:23>> exactly.

33:25All right, any other items?

33:26>> Oh, we got the minutes.

33:29And approved minutes, I think that's it.

33:31>> Yep.

33:39>> I'm waiting to get a copy of those then.

33:44That's how it goes.

35:25>> I'm going to go to the same one.

35:27>> [groaning]

35:28>> Any changes?

35:29>> No, I just

35:30>> Just looking to make sure the numbers

35:31are right.

35:35>> I think I don't have it in front of

35:36Thank you.

35:48>> So,

35:51>> Right here it says David

35:53construction of a 1,080 square foot

35:56barn. And down here it

35:57>> Yeah.

35:58Yeah.

36:00I don't

36:01>> And and the 29 ft is accurate because we

36:04>> That was accurate. That was the closest

36:06>> David David

36:08>> The 2 ft

36:08>> Overhang doesn't count.

36:10>> Yeah, we said we

36:11>> We we we said that as long as they

36:14maintain the 31 ft we previously granted

36:16to the foundation.

36:17>> Correct.

36:18>> The 29 ft is the actual number with the

36:202 ft

36:21>> With overhang on the closest to the

36:22road.

36:23>> Yep.

36:25And now we're and we just granted them a

36:285-yard 5-sorry, 5-ft waiver into the

36:31side side yard.

36:33>> Um I don't know if this makes a

36:34difference, but on the application

36:35request it said barn to increase to

36:38structure height of 35 ft. That's not

36:40true, it's going to 25.

36:41>> 25 ft, yeah.

36:42>> So this doesn't really matter, right? On

36:43the application request.

36:45>> It's it's all about what's in the

36:46decision.

36:46>> Okay.

36:47>> Decision needs to say 25 ft.

36:50>> Yeah, okay.

36:54So I guess I'm good.

36:56>> Okay.

36:56>> I have no changes.

37:00>> None from me.

37:00>> A motion to approve the minutes.

37:03>> I move to approve the minutes.

37:05>> Second?

37:06>> I'll second.

37:07>> All in favor?

37:08>> Aye.

37:09>> Aye.

37:09>> Any opposed?

37:11Excellent.

37:12>> So we'll hold on to that

37:15this packet.

37:17>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on to this email.

37:19>> Well, I guess they'll have her change

37:20some things.

37:21>> Yeah.

37:22>> well, they still get to start.

37:23>> Um and then

37:27when will the sheriff come back?

37:29>> Uh she'll be back tomorrow.

37:30>> Okay. I'll reach out to Cheryl

37:32and

37:33get the decision

37:36so I can sign it.

37:38Then I know they've already started.

37:39>> De Loach's?

37:40>> Yeah, and we told them that we would

37:42approve the decision right away.

37:44>> Yeah.

37:45>> Yeah, just right.

37:46>> So they can so

37:48>> get going.

37:48>> So they can get going.

37:51So I'll get Cheryl to send that out to

37:52everybody.

37:54Good.

37:55>> We can just vote email on the decision.

37:57>> Okay.

37:58So I'll look for it.

38:00Tomorrow?

38:01>> Tomorrow, okay.

38:02>> I'll I'll talk to Cheryl.

38:04I'll get her back to this the changes

38:06from last week.

38:07>> Okay.

38:08>> Last last meeting.

38:11All right.

38:13Excellent.

38:13>> Thank you, Gracie.

38:14>> Thank you, yes, thank you so much.

38:28>> [music]

38:34>> Mhm.

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