2026-10-06 - Committee of the Whole
Summary
Based on auto-generated captions, which have no text for the first 9 minutes; names and numbers may be misheard. All councilmembers attended the planning and public works committee. No formal votes were recorded; direction was given by consensus.
- Municipal code cleanup, Titles 1 to 6 and 9: Chris Stenger and the city engineer presented the final phase of the code review, updating director references, deleting obsolete sections and aligning with current practice. Staff wanted the package on the October 20 consent agenda, but councilmembers raised questions, including Sayna Parsi's idea to let the public remove noxious weeds from public spaces, Melissa Stuart on timing relative to a possible Development Services reorganization, and Vanessa Kritzer on the weed list used. The committee did not send it to consent as drafted; staff will bring back revisions.
- 2027 tourism grants: the Lodging Tax Advisory Committee recommended $171,500 for 19 external applicants and $150,000 for three city-funded applications ($321,500 total); one late application was not recommended, and staff said council cannot fund an event the committee did not recommend. Cleared for the October 20 consent agenda. See 2027 Tourism Grant Funding (LTAC recommendations).
- Planning Commission rules: the ordinance removes the excused and unexcused absence distinction, focuses on excessive absences and sets a removal process through the mayor with final council action. Councilmembers asked about vacancies, stricter attendance, public participation and council-commission communication. Placed on the consent agenda, subject to being pulled. See Planning Commission Absence Rules (Ordinance 3270).
- Development impact fees and the Lake Washington School District agreement: a senior planner proposed indexing 2027 transportation impact fees by 0.41 percent, updating the 2006 interlocal agreement, a new school fee schedule based on bedroom counts, a higher city administrative fee and developer affidavits for bedroom counts. Parks and fire fees follow separate processes, possibly bundled in November. Questions are due October 16 and the item returns November 2. See Development Impact Fees and School District Interlocal Agreement and Fire Impact Fee Phase-In.
- Downtown adaptive signal control (informational): signals along Redmond Way were upgraded; staff reported maintained or better progression, about 7 seconds less eastbound and nearly 3 seconds less westbound weekday PM transit delay per trip, and about 2.5 metric tons of CO2 saved per weekday. A staff report is planned for October 20. See Downtown Adaptive Signal Control Project.
- Third quarter 2026 capital improvement update (informational): 35 active projects with a 60 percent completion rate, one new project (150th Avenue improvements), 154th Avenue paving and EV charging phase 2 completed, ADA curb ramp schedule problems, and the 95th Street Bridge replacement returning for a study session in early 2027.
- The meeting adjourned after about 1 hour 29 minutes.
Agenda
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Transcript
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09:18I should be able
10:16All right. Good evening everyone and
10:18welcome to the Tuesday October 6th
10:21committee the whole for planning and
10:23public works. All council members are in
10:25attendance and we have a busy agenda. So
10:27let's get rolling. First up we have the
10:29adoption of the ordinance to formalize
10:31updates to Redmond Municipal Code titles
10:331 2 3 4 5 6 and nine.
10:39Good evening, council. Uh Chris Stinger,
10:42acting director public works. Joining me
10:44tonight is Rob Kitten, city engineer.
10:47And as discussed, we are here uh to talk
10:50about putting the following item on a
10:52consent agenda. Uh this is the final
10:55phase of the comprehensive review we
10:57undertook to make sure uh municipal code
11:00is current, clear, and aligned with how
11:03the city operates today. Uh earlier this
11:06year, council approved titles 10, 12,
11:0813, and 15. And tonight, we're bringing
11:11forward the remaining updates to titles
11:13one through six and title 9. So at a
11:17high level, these changes are intended
11:18to clarify roles, responsibilities, and
11:21authorities, remove outdated or
11:23inconsistent language, and better align
11:26the code with our current organizational
11:28structure, policies, procedures, and
11:30practices established through our APWA
11:33accreditation effort. So, we've also
11:36completed uh public outreach processes
11:38associated with these updates. We've
11:40received no comments or appeals and the
11:43city clerk and city attorney have
11:44reviewed the proposed ordinances. So
11:47tonight, we're asking for council
11:48direction to proceed. Following that
11:50direction, public works will bring the
11:52seven ordinances forward for adoption on
11:55the October 20th business meeting. And
11:57with that, I'll turn it over to Rob to
12:00fill in any detail.
12:02>> You did steal a lot of my thunder there,
12:04like ripping out pages of my script. So
12:07yes, as Chris had said, this is the
12:10final phase of our comprehensive update
12:12of the municipal code. Uh we came to you
12:14all starting in June of 25 and uh went
12:18through 10, 12, 13, and 15 and and you
12:22approved changes to those in April of
12:2426. Uh those were very complicated
12:27changes as you may recall. There's a lot
12:29of moving parts there. The changes to uh
12:32titles one through six and nine are much
12:34simpler. Uh it's quite a bit of of uh
12:37you kind of cleaning up work and also
12:40making sure that any references that we
12:43created within 10 12 13 and 15 are
12:47correctly called out here.
12:49The so the memo the council memo
12:53includes a uh attachment h which is a
12:57listing of all the changes and also the
12:59rationale. So, I have that table along
13:01if we want to talk about any specific
13:03rationale items. And then I also have
13:06all of the ordinances up uh if we want
13:09to get to that depth. The city clerk and
13:12the city attorney have gone through
13:13these and so they're pretty much ready
13:16for prime time with council.
13:19So,
13:20the going to the some of the specific
13:22changes, what we did is we went through
13:24and we made sure that any definitions
13:27were current. We uh uh corrected
13:30director titles. Uh some of them were
13:32outdated titles, no longer used or just
13:36incorrectly stated where it would say
13:38like uh Department of Public Works
13:40director or something like that. We
13:41would we would clean that up. They were
13:43kind of a wide variety as we went
13:45through code. Then more importantly, we
13:48deleted sections that no longer reflect
13:50current practices. My favorite is the
13:541965
13:56uh section that that funded the current
14:00building. Not not the one that we're
14:01looking to build uh coming up now, but
14:04funded the current one. And so that fund
14:06has been uh def defunct for quite some
14:09time. Uh then we also uh looked at
14:13adding language uh as I'd mentioned uh
14:15for references
14:18other parts of the code. We decided to
14:19take out specific language about
14:22delegates and designates because it was
14:24spread throughout the code in all sorts
14:25of fashions again. So we took those out
14:28and we referenced specific sections
14:30here. And so within title one and title
14:32two we state uh essentially that for
14:35instance for the city engineer the city
14:37engineer
14:39is authorized for these duties or his
14:43their their delegates or designates as
14:46uh as specifically assigned by the
14:49public works director or the mayor. So
14:51we have that language in there.
14:54So those are kind of the key ones. I
14:57like I say, I would be glad to go
14:59through each of the items if you'd like.
15:01Uh but again, what we're asking for is
15:05just uh approval to move on to the
15:07regular council meeting on October 20th.
15:10>> Great. Council members questions. I'll
15:12start with council member Percy.
15:14>> Thank you. There's an item for noxious
15:17wheat. Um there is a section that I
15:21would love to consider adding. Um there
15:24is currently um I'm sorry my browser
15:27just completely closed and all of my
15:29notes went with it. Um but I will speak
15:32from my memory. Um the uh noxious weeds
15:35it references our existing code which
15:37has a section that says owner can remove
15:41noxious weeds. The owner is very unclear
15:43who the owner is, where that noxious
15:45weed is. Um, and I would love to see if
15:48we can add a section there to say um,
15:52anyone from the public who can who
15:55identifies a noxious weed from the list
15:57of noxious weeds that is approved um is
16:01um allowed to remove noxious weeds with
16:04manual effort from the public spaces.
16:06Uh, so not using any um heavy tools or
16:11herbicides just manual action. if you
16:13see something, you can pull it. So that
16:15um brings a sentiment of public
16:17ownership and um the right to um the
16:22right to maintain your public lands. So
16:24I would love to see if that's something
16:26that we can consider safely adding to
16:28the code um because especially because
16:30the current owner section is very
16:32confusing from the existing code and no
16:34a proposal to change that has been uh
16:36shared yet.
16:38>> Thank you. Is there any um concern with
16:41an amendment like that?
16:42>> I don't think so. I think that as long
16:44as they are the the only issue is and we
16:47have this sometimes if depending to the
16:49extent of what folks are doing on public
16:51land, it always is that gray area where
16:55it's one thing to go out and pull a
16:56single weed, but if you're you've
16:58decided that and they may not not
17:01realize that maybe they're not really
17:02doctor's weeds and they go out and pull
17:04out, you know, 400 of them and it turns
17:06out the parks department had just
17:07planted them. So those those sorts of
17:09things. So we'd have to be careful with
17:10the language. Uh but yeah, I can
17:12certainly take that back to our natural
17:13resource folks and kind of talk through
17:15that.
17:15>> Is there council support for an
17:17amendment like that?
17:20>> Thumbs.
17:23>> I have a comment. [laughter]
17:25>> Um okay, we'll come back to that and
17:28move on to the next comment. Uh Council
17:30President Stewart, did you have a
17:31comment on that one?
17:32>> Sure. on that, I would say um I would
17:35love to to find the balance um because I
17:38think dandelions for instance, you know,
17:40might be something that can easily be
17:42recognized and and perhaps, but I do
17:44recognize the concern and would actually
17:46want to hear back from the staff um what
17:48they think of the proposal. So, um I
17:50don't know if I support a full amendment
17:52yet, but I would be interested in seeing
17:53the information come back. And that's
17:55actually related to my uh my own comment
17:58or question here about the um the
18:00amendments in front of us. There are
18:02actually um two categories
18:06of
18:07>> [snorts]
18:07>> uh references in these chapters that um
18:11make me wonder if we should wait to
18:17adopt these updates
18:19um until after the determination is made
18:23on the potential reorg of development
18:25services. Throughout this document,
18:27there are many references to the
18:29director of planning and uh community
18:31development. That that title and that
18:35role may soon change as well as the
18:37technical committee is referred to. Um
18:40and as proposed, if that reorg were to
18:42go through, the technical committee
18:43would no longer um be uh something that
18:47we maintain here at the city. So
18:49overall, I think that most of the uh
18:52edits that are being made in this
18:53package seem like we're headed in the
18:55right direction, but I do wonder about
18:57the timeline and saving ourselves a a
18:59little bit of duplicative work if we
19:02were to delay. Um and in which case, if
19:04we're going to see this again, would
19:05definitely love to see the answer uh
19:07back from staff on the proposal from my
19:09colleague. Thank you.
19:10>> Thank you.
19:11>> So yes, we we did talk about that
19:14internally. So, I talked with Jason
19:15Lynch and Jeff Churchill uh about
19:19whether we should finish this effort up
19:21or not. And we tend to lean towards I I
19:23I I think the sentiment isn't too strong
19:26either way about moving forward
19:27immediately. Now, we're waiting. But, uh
19:30we tend to think that we've already made
19:32all these changes in 10, 12, 13, and 15.
19:35So, we'll have to go through those
19:36anyway if we're if we're adding director
19:38names and changing things like that. And
19:40so the benefit of finishing this up now
19:42is everything through the entire code
19:44would be consistent. And so you could go
19:46through and let's say we add another
19:48director or change a director name, it'd
19:49be consistent without having to remember
19:51to catch pick up these other ones. But
19:54again, the sentiment wasn't super strong
19:56either way.
19:57>> Thank you. Uh I saw uh Council Member
20:01Sony and then Council Member Critzer.
20:04>> Uh thank you. Um actually my question
20:06was exactly same what uh council
20:09president Stewart asked. So I'll ask
20:10another question because there was no
20:13comment that was received during the
20:15public hearing and public um open
20:17comments for this thing. What is the
20:20method or way that we are adopting to
20:23ensure that all related parties or like
20:26people like getting impacted or even our
20:28developers, contractors or the cable
20:31operators like you know to see these
20:32code changes.
20:33>> Yes. uh we've worked with the
20:35communications group. We decided that
20:36for these changes which are you know
20:38fairly administrative in nature uh we
20:41that the let's connect page that was
20:43posted for uh I think we p posted for a
20:46month and a half uh and there were a lot
20:49of lot of uh I think it was downloaded
20:52200 times 254 views so definitely people
20:55came in and looked at it uh and I think
20:58the just the nature of the changes
21:00didn't warrant going to something more
21:02extensive
21:04uh it was These are most of these
21:06changes are not something that would
21:08have a direct impact on people's
21:10everyday lives such as the ones that 10
21:1310 12 13 and 15 definitely did you know
21:15such as sight sewer costs and and storm
21:18water treatment and things like that.
21:22>> Thank you council member Kitzer and then
21:23council vice president Nova Kamina.
21:26>> Thank you. Um and I appreciate the the
21:29notes from my colleagues about potential
21:31changes especially since there's so many
21:32changes on public works director and
21:34there is a lot of discussion about that
21:36about those positions right now. Um I I
21:40would say um on the noxious weeds uh
21:42definitely interested in in the language
21:44proposal um and uh get kind of getting
21:47the the right scoping on that um so that
21:50way we can encourage uh people to remove
21:52noxious weeds but but also uh be super
21:56clear about um uh maintaining uh some of
22:00the things that we want to to be in the
22:02public right away as well. So um but I
22:04really appreciate that. One question I
22:06actually had on the noxious weed section
22:08um is the actual change of uh of going
22:11from going to the the King County list.
22:15Um and I'm just curious how much we
22:18think that will would change the list
22:20from how we the list we currently
22:23maintain.
22:24What I heard from Aaron Mulver, who's
22:27the natural resources manager, is that
22:30uh the county does a much better job of
22:33continually keeping that up and making
22:35sure that it reflects the current
22:36thinking and practice on the noxious
22:38weeds. The city uh
22:41because they are kind of a central
22:42reposi repository of that information.
22:44The county is it he thought it'd be
22:46better to have the city just add on
22:48things that might be more applicable to
22:50the city of Redmond. So that was the
22:52thinking that they they spend more time
22:55and keep it up on a very regular basis.
22:58>> So So should it be more like a King
23:00County noxious weeds list with additions
23:03that are relevant to the city of Redmond
23:05or it would it be comprehensive within
23:07the King County list?
23:09>> Yeah, we would we would adopt the list,
23:11but then the the language allows the
23:13director to add
23:16>> revised as determined by the public
23:17works director. Okay. And a while back,
23:20actually, I think it was during like
23:21maybe my first year on council, we were
23:24discussing specifically around um
23:27noxious weed removal um and some of the
23:31approach to that um in particular um the
23:34allowed practices um and um and
23:38chemicals that that can be used for
23:39that. And I'm wondering um whether there
23:43uh whether it was considered to to add
23:45any additional which I know there's been
23:47some work on that in recent years
23:48whether there's any updates that were
23:50considered um to add in here as well.
23:55>> We can take a look at that with the uh
23:56staff but uh I am cognizant of uh some
24:00some of those BMP's best maintenance
24:03practices have been implemented in some
24:05of the past conversations but we'll take
24:07a look with the group for sure.
24:10Thank you. I have another question, but
24:12I'll wait till the next round.
24:13>> Council me Council Vice President No
24:15Camina.
24:15>> Thank you. Um my my question first
24:18stemmed from the um uh the proposed
24:21language addition from Council Member
24:24Parsy uh about timeline and if that if
24:29that was going to be something um that
24:31we could get done before this went to
24:34consent. However, with the other changes
24:37you're looking at, is this
24:41because there are going to be other
24:42changes that we're already anticipating
24:45and um thank you for bringing up the
24:47point that of the the consistency
24:50looking for are we looking for direction
24:53to go ahead and pass this now as is
24:56knowing that we're going to rather
24:59almost immediately need to start then
25:02the this the next round of adjustments
25:05based on a possible reorg and additional
25:08language.
25:12>> Yeah.
25:13>> And now with the third with um best
25:15practices with what uh removal
25:19mechanisms can be used.
25:20>> Yes. I I think we could probably turn
25:22that language around fairly quickly with
25:24a proposal. But yeah, I get I can't I
25:27won't sit here and tell you that we must
25:28pass this by October 20th. It was just
25:30it it was a natural pro progress and and
25:34we've reached the point where we think
25:35it's we'd make that consistency as I'd
25:37mentioned. But yes, I if it if it got
25:39pushed off a month later or something
25:41like that, I I
25:42>> would it how how would would there be a
25:45change of experience for staff, right?
25:47Like would it be a little bit smoother
25:49if we if we had the um the consistency
25:54now before end of year or you know
25:56within the month or or would it be
25:58easier to The only the only key I think
26:02the only key two key items that uh are I
26:06would call them timesensitive is the the
26:08two uh sections that that talk about
26:12designates and delegates because we
26:14already reference those sections in 10
26:1812 13 right now they're they reference
26:20nothing because they that there's
26:22nothing there for to turn to. So it
26:25would be nice to get those in. And
26:26that's a divi a title one and a title
26:28two change. Uh and then there's a few
26:32others that uh obviously the like the
26:351965 has been there for this long it
26:38could wait another month you know but uh
26:40uh so I think there's just a few that
26:42would be timesensitive.
26:44>> Thank you. Thank you. Um council member
26:47Curtzer do you have one more question
26:48quickly?
26:50>> Yes. I would just say um would love uh
26:53when this item comes back if uh the only
26:56kind of item that I had wanted
26:58clarification on and we don't have to go
27:00over it today would be um what function
27:04with even though we don't have a health
27:05officer now what function within our
27:08team does serve uh what it seems like
27:11the health officer used to do.
27:15>> Thank you. Yes. Like real quickly, the
27:18qu closest thing we could find was King
27:19County and their their board of health
27:23and the that you know what they would do
27:26from a like a septic sanitary sewer
27:28standpoint. So we didn't really find any
27:31real parallel in the city today, but we
27:34can get you a better answer than that.
27:37>> Go ahead.
27:38>> And that and that parallels with a lot
27:39of that APWA work. you know, one of the
27:42trying not to go off topic, but vector
27:45control program. Um, King County is our,
27:48you know, deferral mechanism for that in
27:50lie of the uh public health officer for
27:52Redmond. So, I would see this as the
27:55same, but we'll definitely check it in
27:56there, but I would I would see parallel
27:58courses for the both. [snorts]
28:01>> Councilman Percy, do you have a
28:02follow-up real quick? Quick question.
28:04Um, in the business administration item,
28:07administration and personnel item, I
28:08spotted that we're changing the title of
28:11the technology director to chief
28:13technology officer. I wanted to better
28:15understand if there could be fiscal
28:17implications for that as in with the
28:19title change potentially. There could be
28:21compensation differences that we would
28:22have to consider potentially as part of
28:25um this budget cycle or in the future or
28:27kind of why why the change in title
28:31>> that that is their current title and so
28:36all we did was do it to the current
28:37titles and update that.
28:39>> Great. So it sounds like we're going to
28:40see some things back with this. Um, it
28:43doesn't necessarily sound like we have
28:46uh council, do we have approval for
28:49consent or do we want to see things
28:50back? So, see things back. Thumbs up.
28:54Okay. So, we we'd like to see some
28:56things back before we see this go to
28:58consent.
28:59>> Okay.
28:59>> Great. Thank you.
29:00>> Thank you.
29:01>> Moving right along. Approval of the 2027
29:04tourism grant funding uh lodging tax
29:08advisory committee recommendations.
29:14Okay. And I'm going to get started since
29:16I know we're running a bit. Um, hello
29:19council. Uh, my name is Sari Allen. I'm
29:21the interim planning director. Uh, this
29:24agenda item will be presented by Jackie
29:26Leler, our economic development and
29:28tourism program manager or
29:29administrator. Sorry. The um lodging tax
29:32advisory committee, also known as ELTAC,
29:35met on September 1 to review 20 external
29:38grant applications and three city
29:40applications for 2027 annual funding. Um
29:43Jackie will provide you details um on
29:45the annual uh tourism grant program and
29:482027 funding recommendations. And then
29:50we will be back later tonight um to
29:53share with you more about the city's
29:54overall tourism program. Um, and then I
29:56also wanted to give a shout out to our
29:58Eltech chair. Um, and um, she might want
30:01to add some comments at the end of
30:02Jackie's, but I'll now turn it over to
30:04Jackie.
30:07Thank you and thank you city council for
30:09having me tonight.
30:11Uh, this is our annual tourism grant
30:13program and in accordance with the RCW
30:15requirements, the ELTAC reviewed the
30:172027 grant applications and is providing
30:20their recommendations to the city
30:22council. These grants are funded through
30:25a 1% lodging tax collected from hotels
30:28and short-term rentals in Redmond.
30:31As a priority and requirement under the
30:34state law, lodging tax funds should
30:36support tourism related programs that
30:38have a portion of their audience coming
30:40from more than 50 miles away and are
30:42intended to generate paid overnight
30:44stays.
30:46Additional considerations for applicants
30:48include cultural elements, the ability
30:51to draw large audiences to Redmond, and
30:54the potential economic impact for our
30:56local small businesses.
30:58If helpful, the attachments and content
31:00of your memo include a full scoring
31:03criteria, all grant applications, and
31:06tourism programming frequently asked
31:08questions. During the grant cycle, the
31:11ELTAC voted and recommended $171,500
31:15in tourism matching grants for 19
31:18applicants, external applicants, and an
31:21additional $150,000 for three city-f
31:24funed applications supporting events and
31:27cultural arts programming. Together, the
31:29total funding recommendation is for
31:32$321,500.
31:36A few items of interest for this year's
31:38grant cycle are that four applications
31:40did rec require a recusal by one
31:43committee member who is actively
31:45involved in the event planning or
31:48submitted the application themsel.
31:51We received seven new applicants this
31:53year including four applications for new
31:56events. One of which is a
31:58crossjurisdiction
31:59Washington state marathon with a
32:01starting point in Redmond.
32:04One application for a small folk dance
32:06workshop was not recommended for funding
32:08as they turned in their application past
32:10the deadline.
32:12Staff have communicated with this event
32:14producer and they plan to apply again
32:16next year. As other grants come
32:18available, I will make sure to pass
32:20those on to the applicant as well. We
32:23would like to proceed with adding this
32:25item to the October 20th consent agenda
32:27for your approval. Thank you.
32:30>> Thank you. And I wanted to note and see
32:32if the Eltech chair, um, Council Member
32:34Critzer had anything you'd like to add.
32:37>> Well, thank you so much. Um, I ju I
32:39first just want to say thanks to our
32:40wonderful staff. Um, also, uh, Philly
32:43March, who wasn't at the table as well,
32:45um, who, uh, worked on this. Um, and,
32:48uh, and to the Eltech members, uh, who
32:50spent a great deal of time reviewing all
32:52the different applications. Um it was
32:54really wonderful to kind of to be a part
32:56of of the process and be able to hear
32:59the very thoughtful deliberations
33:01um looking deeply at the data um around
33:04especially projected night stays since
33:06that is uh one of the the key criteria
33:08but also kind of weighing all the
33:10different types of things um that we
33:12want to bring to our city and that will
33:14bring people to our city to want to come
33:16stay here. So, um, just, uh, really want
33:18to express my appreciation. Um, and I'll
33:21note, uh, we did have a before we began
33:23deliberations on how much to, as you
33:25probably saw from the notes, but I'll
33:27just highlight, um, before we begin
33:28deliberations on how much to allocate to
33:30each of the the different grants, um, we
33:33did consider whether uh, we would
33:35include the late grant application. Um
33:37and one thing that uh was noted that um
33:40previously there had been late grant
33:42applications and this year the staff
33:44took extra attention to make sure it was
33:46not only on the website the time the
33:49exact time of day and the deadline but
33:50it was also on the application in red at
33:53the very top. Um and so the the group
33:56did decide that just to be fair
33:58everybody should have to align by the
34:00rules and and so I I do hope uh that
34:02that applicant is able to apply uh in
34:04the future. Um and so um anyway, happy
34:08to answer any questions if people have
34:09about um the allocations as well.
34:12>> Any council member questions? Council
34:13member Parcy and then council member
34:15Sony.
34:16>> Hi. I actually would love to know how
34:19late did they apply and if we include
34:21them if this would potentially burden
34:23the staff because one of the things that
34:26I really liked about them was that they
34:28are very different from the rest of the
34:29applications that we have right now and
34:32that could potentially diversify the
34:34offerings that we provide. And then also
34:36I like that this was a new application
34:39versus many of the ones that we're
34:40already supporting are returning ones.
34:43So in the spirit of previously I think I
34:45heard from um council member Sony and
34:47many others that we want to support new
34:49applications. So from kind of that light
34:52I came in with a perspective of how can
34:54we support this candidate too. So I
34:56would love to hear your thoughts if that
34:57would be a burden for staff to support.
35:00Great. Thank you for the question. This
35:02does come up often when we're not able
35:03to or when they choose not to fund an
35:05event. So, we have sought legal counsel
35:09on this exact question and what we've
35:11been told by two different attorneys is
35:13that if the lodging tax committee
35:16doesn't put it forward for funding, then
35:19the council cannot give funding to an
35:21event that was not recommended. You can
35:24change funding of those that are
35:26recommended and it would have to go back
35:28for comment from the ELAC for 45 days
35:31before you can approve it. They can't
35:33say no, but they just need 45 days for
35:35consideration, but to fund an event that
35:38they chose not to fund is two different
35:41attorneys have said it's not allowed
35:43based on the RCW and I should actually
35:45put that in the FAQs in the future. So,
35:47I apologize. That's my bad. Um, but you
35:51could choose to fund them through a
35:53different source. It just can't be the
35:54lodging tax.
35:58Council member Kitzer,
35:59>> I'll also note it seemed like um
36:01hopefully this event was going to be put
36:03on regardless. It's just whether the
36:05ELTAC would fund it. And I think what we
36:07talked about was just the fairness
36:08because if we gave money to an applicant
36:11who didn't uh abide by the the timeline,
36:14it meant that there would be less money
36:15for those who did abide by the timeline.
36:17So hopefully just encourages them to
36:19come back to this source in the future
36:21and make sure to apply by the deadline.
36:23Thank you for the legal explanation on
36:25that as well and for putting the
36:27deadlines in multiple places. I think
36:28that helps cover us as well. Uh council
36:31member Sony,
36:33>> thank you so much chair. Um I have lot
36:36of questions and I do serve in the elac
36:39board for another city. So you know
36:41that's the reason it's like have some
36:43kind of an experience and a granular
36:44lens to look at. First is this year we
36:49we were expected to have higher
36:52um budget for the next year because of
36:55uh FIFA World Cup and the number of
36:57hotel rooms booked while I'm seeing that
36:592027 and 2028 the budget is decreased
37:03which is little surprise to me. Uh so
37:06that that's indicating that the the
37:09number of rooms booked in 2026 are less
37:13while they should have been higher. So
37:15that is definitely my first question and
37:18maybe if I can ask my follow-up
37:20question.
37:22Sure. Sure. So in terms of the uh total
37:25room nights like you know when I'm
37:27looking into some of these room nights
37:29my question is is this per person per
37:32room night or is it the actual room
37:36booked? Because the numbers that I'm
37:38seeing here they definitely do not look
37:41realistic. I do host events. So I have a
37:44lot of experience in booking room nights
37:46and these things. These numbers are not
37:47looking very realistic to me. So what
37:50method are we adopting to ensure that
37:53the reports that are submitted and the
37:55the the rooms proposed versus room
37:58booked there is an alignment. So is
38:00there a report that is taken from every
38:03hotel where these were booked so that
38:05there is a transparency
38:07or is it like you know based on whatever
38:10was submitted is just accepted.
38:14>> I'm going to start actually with the
38:16first question say that we'll address
38:17that in our report tonight just because
38:19I know we're running short on time but
38:20we'll talk about um where we've been
38:22what we saw from the World Cup and what
38:24we're projecting for future. So if it's
38:26okay with the council, I'll put a pin in
38:27that one and go to the second technical
38:29question. Okay,
38:32great. And so on the second piece of
38:35your question, some of the numbers are
38:37not realistic. That is something that
38:38ELTAC also discusses. That's a big
38:41challenge with this committee is many of
38:43these numbers can't be proven except for
38:45the soccer tournaments can prove their
38:47numbers because they have printouts from
38:48the hotelers. So the large soccer
38:51tournaments are some of the only events
38:52that we host that can prove their
38:54numbers. Uh this is something that
38:57repeatedly comes up. We will be running
38:59some geo fencing data on events that are
39:01large enough to grab data but not all
39:04the events are large enough. So it is
39:05self reported. Um but that does go into
39:09the conversations that are had. So even
39:11though someone may say they bring so
39:12many bed uh heads in beds, it doesn't
39:17necessarily mean that the ELAC is taking
39:18that at face value of what's in the
39:20application. They did discuss that on
39:22many of the events, but you're right,
39:23that's a that's a really big challenge
39:25for the ELTAC at this point in time.
39:28>> I also wanted to add that we are um
39:30continuing to invest in more data
39:32collection. So we both have the Placer,
39:33but we're um seeing your budget and
39:35Heather, we're doing u better on um
39:37collecting more data in general. And so
39:39that will hopefully be something that
39:41will help with that.
39:42>> Thank you. To keep us on time, I'm going
39:44to move us forward since we're going to
39:45be hearing a little more about this
39:46tonight. Um, is anyone objecting to this
39:49going on consent on the 20th?
39:53Great. Thank you. We will see this back
39:55on October 20th. Um, thank you for the
39:59briefing and for hearing more about this
40:01later as well. Appreciate it. Uh, next
40:03up is amending RMC 3.1 development
40:06impact fees and amending contract uh
40:095251 interlocal agreement on collection.
40:14Oh,
40:19sorry.
40:24Wasn't printed on the
40:26>> Oh, my bad. All right. Apologies. We are
40:29up. We are moving on to the updated
40:30planning commission rules of procedure.
40:33Apologies.
40:35Tricky at the top there. [laughter]
40:38Um, all right. So, good afternoon. I'm
40:40going to start talking while staff uh uh
40:42arrives so we can keep things moving.
40:44Uh, I'm here with uh, uh, Cheryl Zanos,
40:47our uh, city clerk, Becky Fry, our
40:49interim long-range planning manager, and
40:51um, Jeff Churchill, our interim um,
40:53development services deputy to introduce
40:56um, some updates to the planning
40:57commission rules and procedures uh,
40:59related to uh, sorry and then related to
41:02updates to the Redmond Municipal Code.
41:04So, the proposal introduced today uh, is
41:07for an ordinance amending RMC4
41:10uh,.43.080
41:11080 and a resolution updating the
41:14planning commission rules of procedure.
41:17The Redmond Planning Commission is
41:19established in the Redmond Mun Municipal
41:21Code um 4.43 and the basics of planning
41:25commission authority and operations are
41:26also contained within that RMC. Um these
41:29are uh these rules are supplemented um
41:32by the rules and procedures adopted
41:34pursuant to that RMC. And um I also
41:37wanted to share and Becky will share
41:39about this a little bit but um or sorry
41:42I'll turning it over to Cheryl to share
41:44this first uh about um the Do you have
41:48that? Okay. Uh turning it over to Cheryl
41:50to uh because this has kind of been a a
41:52twofur where the clerk's office has been
41:54drafting some um standard rules and
41:57procedures which Cheryl will talk about
41:58and then the reason we're here before
42:00you is what Becky will speak to which is
42:01how it's specific to the planning
42:03commission. So Cheryl, I'll turn it over
42:05to you.
42:07Cheryl Alexanth, city clerk.
42:09Boards, commissions, and committees are
42:11made up of qualified, responsible, and
42:12motivated community members. Through
42:14appointed positions, they contribute to
42:16the success of the city and the quality
42:18of life for all residents to provide
42:20consistency in public expectations at
42:22city meetings. A standardized rules of
42:24procedure was developed. Rules of
42:26procedures from other jurisdictions and
42:28best practices were reviewed to create
42:30the stand the standardized framework in
42:33ensuring consistency strengthens how the
42:35community interacts with city
42:36government. We focused on the planning
42:39commission first. The rules of procedure
42:41will be rolled out to each of the city's
42:42other boards, commissions, and
42:44committees for review and adoption.
42:46Each board, commission, and committee is
42:48unique in its purpose, mission, and
42:49role. So, the rules will be adjusted for
42:51each body based on its specific
42:53responsibilities.
42:55I will be working with staff leaison to
42:57develop a timeline that reflects the
42:59amount of work needed for each set of
43:00roles in alignment with their meeting
43:02schedules.
43:08And we'll turn it over to Becky to talk
43:09about how the planning commission rules
43:11and procedures are the only ones that
43:12will come before the council for
43:14ratification due to all the RMC language
43:16I spoke to earlier in the introduction.
43:19So Becky,
43:21>> so the com planning commission took the
43:23standardized rules and procedures and
43:25they are also suggesting edits um and
43:29recommendations related to attendance.
43:32Uh the edits remove the distinction of
43:34excused and unexcused and just really um
43:37focus on if the absences are excessive
43:39or not.
43:41Um, the edits also remove the
43:43requirement that the planning commission
43:44provide a written request to remove a
43:46commissioner due to excessive absences
43:48and instead it just refers to a new
43:50removal process which would be created
43:52in RMC. Um, that leaves the discretion
43:56to the mayor, but it doesn't change the
43:58final removal. It requires a council
44:00vote. Um, if the council adopts the
44:03commission recommendations on changes in
44:05attendance, uh, this will only impact
44:07the rules for the planning commission.
44:09it won't impact any other boards and
44:10commissions rules and procedures. It's
44:12specific to them. Uh staff requested
44:15this item be placed on the October 20th
44:17consent agenda, but we're happy to
44:19answer any questions.
44:22Questions from council, council member
44:24Percy.
44:26>> I have two questions about this. I'll
44:28start with the first one. um at the um
44:31very end of the document where we are
44:34removing um the section that uh the seat
44:38becomes vacant and a successor shall be
44:40appointed. Uh so that section is removed
44:43and also referencing uh the um larger
44:47code and context to this. Um we are
44:50getting rid of all of the areas where
44:52there is an appointment process to be
44:54followed. So, I'm concerned that we
44:56don't have any uh fall back for um
44:59appointing a successor or um uh someone
45:02to replace this candidate. Uh can you
45:05please show me where or how we're um
45:08kind of covering for this um successor
45:11replacement?
45:28Do you have a section you want to point
45:30to? Looks like staff are scrolling.
45:32>> 44380.
45:37And then um
45:41and then
45:44yeah,
45:46>> not all of 4.43 is in the document. So
45:5044350
45:52is appointments and qualifications and
45:53that does speak to how um commissioners
45:56are appointed. So we're not going to
45:58lose that.
46:00>> Yeah. Say there's
46:11>> seems to be some confusion. Are you
46:15>> can you Yeah. Can you clarify what you
46:16said again?
46:17I understood to be the concern that
46:19there's no more appointment language in
46:22080. The appointment language exists in
46:26443 050 and that's not being edited. So
46:29that appointment language will still
46:30exist and when the vacancy is created,
46:32the vacancy will be filled in the manner
46:35prescribed by 050.
46:37>> Yeah,
46:39I'm going to move on and then we'll come
46:41back. Uh Council Member Pro,
46:45>> thank you. Um I was just wondering at a
46:48high level um if these revisions uh you
46:52know given that the planning commission
46:54is one of the commissions that is
46:55mandated by state law how restrictive
46:59these uh revisions are compared to other
47:02municipalities. I mean I'm just I'm just
47:04looking at at that same section
47:064.43.080.
47:08Uh the last section, the members
47:10position shall be considered for vacancy
47:12if uh before the next regular meeting.
47:16Um
47:19oh sorry I the previous sentence when
47:21when a member misses three consecutive
47:23regular business meetings. Um we're
47:24crossing out the uh without being
47:27excused by a majority vote section. Um
47:30and and I think this language is
47:32actually like more restrictive than the
47:34language for council members u via the
47:37RCW. I think as a council member, you
47:40only lose your seat uh if it's three
47:42unexcused business meetings in a row. Um
47:44so that um just prompts my question as
47:47to how restrictive are these measures on
47:50commissioners compared to other
47:51jurisdictions.
47:53>> I guess I'll say this is what the
47:54planning commission asked for. Um they
47:57wanted to remove that distinction
47:58between excused and unexcused and then
48:02wanted to focus on just total number of
48:03absences. So, you're right. It is a um a
48:06different threshold than for council
48:08because the commission only wanted to
48:10focus on absences. Um it's not something
48:13that the council needs to adopt. This
48:16language is not required by the RCW. It
48:19is within their uh ability to suggest
48:22this and to operate that way um if they
48:25want to and the council agrees with it,
48:26but it's it's optional.
48:30>> Thank you. Another questions. Council
48:32member Kitzer and then Council President
48:34Stewart,
48:35>> I did read through the um the matrix uh
48:38of of the planning commission's
48:40discussion, but I am curious if you
48:41could just give us a little bit more of
48:44the background on um uh on the the
48:48interest in in being able to remove this
48:50distinction. Um I I I'll say I I can
48:54understand this issue since I think it
48:56does come up on our commissions. I think
48:57when I was on planning commission, there
48:59was uh maybe a member that that did not
49:02follow these this rule. So, um so I can
49:06see how making sure you have regularly
49:08attending members is very important, but
49:10I'm just curious um in particular around
49:12the like um the absent the excuse
49:15language.
49:18>> I think part part of what it was is that
49:19the plan commission wanted to align
49:21their rules with how they were actually
49:23operating. And the way they're actually
49:25operating is that almost every absence
49:27was excused. Um, and it also is the case
49:31that attendance records are pretty good
49:33and that most commissioners will notify
49:35staff and the planning commission chair
49:36if they're going to be absent. So
49:37attendance hasn't been a a concerning
49:40issue. And since it hasn't been a
49:41concerning issue, they also haven't been
49:43um regularly taking votes on excused
49:45versus unexcused absences because most
49:47most of them have been they've all been
49:50sort of excused by by lack of objection
49:52to to having that absence excused. And
49:55so in in practice, they weren't really
49:57distinguishing between excused and
49:59unexcused and they wanted the rules to
50:01uh reflect how they were operating.
50:05>> Thank you. And I I'll just note it looks
50:07like there was a discussion about events
50:10and about the ability for the planning
50:13commissioners to talk with council. I
50:16don't know if we need a deep dive on
50:17this since we're not actually going to
50:19have um a a decision related to this. Um
50:24but uh but I'd just say I I hope that we
50:29can abide by OPMA but that we don't um
50:32discourage the planning commission from
50:34engaging with council. I I think having
50:36good relationships with our planning
50:38commission, hearing their perspectives
50:40and being able to understand their
50:42decisions, especially since they do such
50:43deep dive work that then comes to
50:45council. I value that as a council
50:48member. Um so help good to get the
50:50clarification. Um, but I I just hope the
50:52outcome of that discussion is not that
50:54we would have less communication between
50:56council and the planning commission.
50:59>> Council President Stewart.
51:01>> Yeah, thank you. And I appreciate um all
51:03of the comments from my colleagues and
51:06uh for time if the chair were to move us
51:08along and say we would have to bring
51:09this back at another touch. Um I think
51:12that it would be helpful to actually see
51:14the distinction between um what is the
51:16the base recommendations that are going
51:18to be made and adapted um through the
51:21clerk's work for all the boards and
51:23commissions and then kind of what were
51:24the the key decisions that the uh
51:27commission did make for themselves. I
51:29think we received a uh recommendation
51:32that was unanimously adopted and I do
51:34want to respect that. Um, and I also
51:38want to just um uh take our time and
51:42make sure that we are
51:45cognizant of our council's interest in
51:48making service accessible too and and to
51:50have that check on that. Um, my question
51:52is actually for the clerk. Thank you so
51:56much. I know um a a subcommittee
51:58subworking group of us on the council
52:00worked with you last year on our most
52:02recent updates um or earlier this year
52:05to the council rules of procedure and I
52:07see some of the through line in that
52:09conversation coming through. I'm
52:10wondering if you could speak um as as it
52:14you spoke about how our boards and
52:15commissions um had really disperate
52:18rules of procedure, but I'm also
52:19wondering if you could talk um to name a
52:22couple of the pain points uh that have
52:24been coming up in those various
52:25commission rules of procedure um and and
52:29um how the the package that we won't
52:32necessarily see because we only have
52:33jurisdiction over this one. um but how
52:36those experiences for commissioners are
52:38going to be improved as a result of this
52:40work.
52:44>> I would say not only for the
52:45commissioners but for the public. So we
52:47would have consistent public comment
52:48rules which would be important is um
52:51then we would also like all the boards
52:54and commissions um rules of procedure
52:56were developed at different times so
52:58they contain completely different um
53:00information. we have had laws change and
53:02things like that and records, things
53:04like that are very important to the city
53:06to be able to abide by state law. So, it
53:09would just have a more consistent um
53:12application and if sometimes boards or
53:14commission members um want to move over
53:16to a different board or commission and
53:18then they would all have very consistent
53:20rules to follow. So, I think it would
53:21help not only the city but also the
53:23public and the boards and commission
53:25members themselves.
53:27>> Thank you so much. and the public
53:28participation section of of this draft.
53:31Is this similar to what would be seen in
53:33the other commissions as well?
53:35>> Yes, it would be.
53:36>> Thank you.
53:37>> Thank you. I'm going to ask council
53:39members, are there other questions that
53:40they would like to follow up with staff
53:42because we are short on time? Um and
53:44then could we potentially see this in
53:46November?
53:48>> So, uh our our request would be I'm not
53:51sure what additional information is
53:53being requested. So kind of the three
53:55options would be adopt as is with the
53:57planning commission edits, adopt the
53:59standard without some of the PC edits
54:01included or three if there are
54:04additional items that are being
54:05requested for edits that would come back
54:07later. I'm not I'd have to check the
54:09council schedule to see when we could
54:10bring this back. Okay. Thank you. Um are
54:12there are there other questions from
54:15council? I'm seeing one head nod and no
54:18head nods. Okay. I'm going to suggest uh
54:21Council Member Parcy if you could email
54:23and meet with Coun um staff to get your
54:26questions answered and then um thumbs
54:29for putting this on new business that
54:31could be pulled if any council member
54:33wants to speak to it or address any
54:36issues. So consent,
54:40sorry, I meant consent.
54:43uh thumbs for putting this on consent
54:45and then you can pull it off of consent
54:47if you have concerns that you would like
54:48to have addressed. Okay, thank you. We
54:52will see this on consent. Um expect some
54:55follow-up questions. Sounds great.
54:57>> Thank you.
54:58>> Thank you. Moving along to amending RMC
55:01development impact fees. Going to
55:04shorten that title.
55:05>> Yep. Here we go.
55:10Uh good afternoon again. Um Glenn Coyle,
55:12a senior planner with the long-range
55:14plan team, is here to uh brief council
55:16members on the proposed transportation
55:18impact fee changes in 2027 to account
55:21for inflation, as well as changes to the
55:24Lake Washington School District's fee
55:25schedule. Uh, as a reminder, council
55:28reviewed and discussed the fire impact
55:30fees on um September 15th at PSHS
55:33committee of the whole and the park
55:35impact fees at the 9:22 um park and
55:38environmental sustainability committee
55:39of meeting of the whole. Um, and we're
55:42proposing that this would come forward
55:44as one full package. Um, but the two
55:47items we're discussing today are the uh
55:50uh transportation and Lake Washington
55:52School District fee schedule. Um, please
55:54note that Brian Buck, a representative
55:56from the Lake Washington School
55:58District, is also um online with us um
56:00to answer any questions about the school
56:02impact fees. So, with that, I'll turn it
56:05over to Glenn to provide some more quick
56:07context.
56:09>> Thank you. Uh good afternoon, council
56:12members. Um I am Glenn Coyle, senior
56:15planner. So impact fees are one-time
56:18charges collected by the city uh from
56:20new commercial and residential
56:22developments to fund fire, park, school,
56:24and transportation facilities needed to
56:27accommodate growth. Impact fees are
56:29authorized in RMC 310. Uh indexing or
56:33updating Redmond's impact fees annually
56:36allows the rates to keep a pace with
56:38inflation to maintain the purchasing
56:40power of these impact fees and to help
56:43provide the capital facilities necessary
56:45to serve growth in Redmond. RMC 310
56:48establishes the indexes and procedures
56:51that the city council may apply annually
56:53to index or update Redmond's impact
56:55fees. The city collects school impact
56:59fees on behalf of the Lake Washington
57:01School District by interlocal agreement.
57:04School impact fees calculated by the
57:06district uh reflect the proportionate
57:08share of the cost of school related
57:10system improvements that are reasonably
57:12related to new development. Um and as
57:15Sephrey noted, we are here today to
57:17discuss two amendments to RMC 310. The
57:20first is to index the transportation fee
57:23schedule for inflation which is an
57:25annual process
57:27for 2027. Uh transportation impact fees
57:30will increase 0.41%
57:34which is calculated as a three-year
57:36average of construction cost indices for
57:39the Lake Washington School District. We
57:42are requesting an amendment to the
57:43interlocal agreement from 2006. Um and
57:47we will also adopt a new school impact
57:49fee schedule to be updated by annually
57:52which is every two years instead of
57:54annually.
57:55The driver of this uh is the school
57:58district's switching to using bedroom
58:00counts to calculate impact fees. The
58:03amended interlocal agreement
58:04acknowledges these changes while also
58:07affirming a new process that the city
58:09will not calculate bedroom counts on
58:12behalf of the district but rather will
58:14require developments developers to
58:17submit an affidavit on bedroom counts to
58:19the city to assess fees.
58:22Uh the agreement also increases the
58:24city's admin fee to align with current
58:26costs as well as well as I'm going to
58:30indemnify in the city against the
58:32accuracy of the affidavits.
58:34Um I would also just like to to renote
58:37that this is two components of four
58:39total updates to RMC 310. Both parks and
58:42fire are proposing updates to their fee
58:45schedules related to updated capital
58:47facilities plans, also known as
58:48functional plans, and are being reviewed
58:51by council in separate processes.
58:54We are coordinating with them so that
58:56council can adopt one omnibus ordinance
58:59in November so that all the fees can go
59:01into effect consistently on January 1st
59:05as is the usual standard. And this is
59:07also why the parks and fire impact fee
59:10schedules are not being indexed for
59:11inflation this year. Um and also note
59:14that um we'd like to come back uh to
59:17committee the whole November 2nd to
59:19review the ordinance. Um and with that I
59:21turn it back to the chair.
59:23>> Thank you. Council questions.
59:27Council member Brocka.
59:32>> Thank you. Um, so I understand that the
59:35school district changed uh to using
59:37bedroom counts for calculating their
59:39impact fees. Uh, and it says that we
59:41have trouble actually verifying this
59:44with developers. I'm just wondering if
59:46you can help me understand why uh in
59:48terms of permitting. We we just don't
59:51get that number um directly as part of
59:54the permit that we are verifying.
59:57>> I I wouldn't necessarily say that
59:59there's a difficulty. It's a new
1:00:01process. the city doesn't necessarily
1:00:03track that and that would um just add a
1:00:05whole new process for the city that
1:00:07normally hasn't been done. Uh this is a
1:00:09pass through. Um so I would defer um to
1:00:12to our school district uh partners and
1:00:15colleagues to maybe um help kind of
1:00:17answer some of that.
1:00:21>> Yeah. Hi, this is Brian Buck with the
1:00:23Lake Washington School District. Yeah,
1:00:25currently we do not have access
1:00:29um uh to bedroom counts. It is something
1:00:33that we will continue to look at. Uh as
1:00:37such, our student generation data for
1:00:39units with two bedrooms or less and one
1:00:42bedroom or less uh is not available. Uh
1:00:47so the district's assuming a $0 fee for
1:00:50these smaller dwelling units. As permit
1:00:53data evolves, we'll continue to revisit
1:00:57um to determine whether it can be
1:00:59accurately
1:01:01um accessed and and student generation
1:01:04rates determined for the smaller units.
1:01:07In the meantime, the district's using a
1:01:10blended student generation rate based on
1:01:13all of the units in each dwelling
1:01:15category.
1:01:19>> Thank you. Um, council member Kurtzer,
1:01:23>> I guess just following up on that, how
1:01:25if if there's a a blended calculation,
1:01:27which I may not be understanding that,
1:01:29um, how it is that we ended up with only
1:01:32a rate above zero in one category. Um,
1:01:36when also there is another category with
1:01:38threebedroom, but also I wouldn't see
1:01:40some in the twobedroom
1:01:43categories.
1:01:47>> Again, I'll defer that to the school
1:01:48district. Yeah, this is Brian Buck again
1:01:51with Lake Washington School District.
1:01:53So, there are several factors that
1:01:55contribute
1:01:57um to um the fees for um both single
1:02:04family uh single family rates and then
1:02:08the apartment/condo
1:02:10rate and the new middle housing rate.
1:02:14Each has a smaller bedroom count uh
1:02:18piece. So when we calculate our our
1:02:22fees, we um
1:02:26we look at student generation rates and
1:02:28then we we run them through our
1:02:30calculation.
1:02:32And so I would say that
1:02:36sorry I would say that um the updated
1:02:40enrollment plan um has a decline each
1:02:44year through 2031. It averages about 1.6
1:02:4867%.
1:02:50In addition, uh so we're only eligible
1:02:53to collect at the high school level. And
1:02:56in addition, we've we removed the high
1:02:58school land costs from the calculation
1:03:01because they were not in play during
1:03:04this um capital facilities plan.
1:03:07uh student generation rates did increase
1:03:11for single family u but they decrease
1:03:14for apartments and condos and um so
1:03:18that's the result of why there's no fee
1:03:20for apartments condos or the new middle
1:03:24housing rate but just only for the
1:03:26single family.
1:03:27>> Thank you for that explanation.
1:03:29>> Thank you. Just noting that we have four
1:03:31minutes left in this meeting and we are
1:03:33seeing this back on November 2nd. Would
1:03:36it be appropriate if council members I
1:03:38know there I'm feeling there's a lot
1:03:39more questions around the table if we
1:03:42could email you our questions and get
1:03:44that on for that November 2nd meeting.
1:03:49Um, yes. I think we just request a
1:03:52deadline so that staff can prepare some
1:03:54responses from that since we're hoping
1:03:56that's the final touch before bringing
1:03:57it on consent order to get the adoption
1:04:00date um by January 1.
1:04:02>> And what um what deadline would you like
1:04:04us to send questions?
1:04:05>> If we have the two weeks, let's say by
1:04:08the end of the 16th, would that work and
1:04:10Brian? Okay. All right, council members,
1:04:13please send your questions uh to staff
1:04:16by end of day on the 16th on this item.
1:04:19>> Um I have a feeling you'll be getting
1:04:20several.
1:04:21>> Great. All right, thanks everyone and
1:04:24apologies for keep trying to keep us on
1:04:26track here. Um next up is the status
1:04:28update on downtown adaptive signal
1:04:30control project.
1:04:47Good evening, council members. Back
1:04:49again, Chris Stinger, acting director of
1:04:51public works. Joining me tonight is to
1:04:54manager Paul Cho and senior engineer
1:04:58Hidemi Su. So, um, I'm going to hand it
1:05:01off to those. But first, tonight's
1:05:03presentation is primarily anformational
1:05:06update on the adaptive signals project
1:05:09and, uh, give you a little preview of
1:05:11what's coming up. But without further
1:05:13ado, I'm going to hand it over to Paul.
1:05:16Good afternoon. I'm Paul Cho. I'm also
1:05:18the city traffic engineer. Um, but we
1:05:21are here to provide a brief summary of
1:05:23the downtown adaptive signal project and
1:05:25to see if you have additional questions
1:05:28to cover in the staff report. Adaptive
1:05:31project information was last brought
1:05:33before council in July of 2024 before
1:05:36the project before the project actually
1:05:38started. Uh, traditional preset timing
1:05:42based on historical data can't keep up
1:05:44with today's fluctuating traffic.
1:05:46Adaptive monitors real time traffic data
1:05:50to make program adjustments as needed.
1:05:53Unpredictable patterns are driven by
1:05:55light rail, hybrid work delivery
1:05:58activities and weather.
1:06:01So adaptive technology was installed
1:06:04along Redmond Way from 160th on the west
1:06:06side and then East Lake Samish Parkway
1:06:09on the east side. In conjunction,
1:06:12multimodal detection was a separate
1:06:14technology that was implemented for
1:06:16consistent bicycle detection, continuous
1:06:19traffic counts, and future features like
1:06:22pedestrian all red extension.
1:06:25After field installation, the project
1:06:27completed a before and after study to
1:06:29evaluate performance. Hidemi is going to
1:06:32walk through these results in more
1:06:34detail.
1:06:39>> Thank you. Uh my name is Hidemi Suru.
1:06:41I'm senior engineer with the traffic
1:06:43safety division, a public works
1:06:44department. Um so I will briefly go over
1:06:46the results of the before and after
1:06:48study. The study showed that the
1:06:50adaptive student signal system is
1:06:52actively adjusting throughout the day,
1:06:53especially during midday and
1:06:55transitional periods leading up to the
1:06:56afternoon rush hour. Um corridor
1:06:59progression and travel times are
1:07:00maintained or improved. the large I'm
1:07:03sorry. In order to optimize corridor
1:07:04progression, there may be some
1:07:06trade-offs at the intersection level,
1:07:07but overall um corridor progression has
1:07:10improved. Um the study also showed that
1:07:13transit performance improved. The
1:07:15largest improvements occurred during the
1:07:16weekday PM period where average delay
1:07:19decreased by approximately 7 seconds per
1:07:21trip for the eastbound direction and
1:07:23nearly 3 seconds per trip for the
1:07:25westbound direction.
1:07:27CO2 emission savings were also
1:07:29calculated based on travel time
1:07:31reductions. Um, planning level estimates
1:07:33showed a total reduction of
1:07:35approximately 2.5 metric tons of
1:07:37emission savings uh per average weekday,
1:07:40which is the environmental equivalent of
1:07:42taking an average vehicle off the road
1:07:44for half a year. The last benefit we
1:07:47would like to highlight is the savings
1:07:49in staff time by reducing the need for
1:07:51manual signal retiming. Sandal timing is
1:07:54complex, labor intensive, and requires
1:07:57hours of field observations. Corridors
1:07:59with conflicting traffic on side street
1:08:02side streets such as Redmond Way could
1:08:03take 3 to six months to manually
1:08:05optimize signal timing. And even then,
1:08:07it would be based on traffic counts
1:08:09taken from a sample day a year ago.
1:08:12Instead, moving forward, staff can focus
1:08:14on fine-tuning the adaptive system by
1:08:16adjusting how the system prioritizes the
1:08:19directions of movements, how fast the
1:08:21system changes to traffic conditions,
1:08:23and what events triggers the changes.
1:08:26Thank you.
1:08:30So again, uh, with the staff report, um,
1:08:34we're wanting to see if you have
1:08:36additional questions that we can
1:08:38address, uh, before we actually present
1:08:40it at a council meeting.
1:08:42>> Thank you. Uh, council members, if you
1:08:45wouldn't mind emailing your additional
1:08:47questions to Director Stinger, um, so we
1:08:50can go ahead and move on to the next
1:08:53item. Um, but we do look forward to
1:08:56hearing this staff report on the 20th. I
1:08:58know we have we're going to probably
1:08:59have a lot of questions for you to be
1:09:00included in that because this is a
1:09:02project that we've all been very excited
1:09:03about and we've heard a lot of community
1:09:05feedback on as well. So
1:09:07>> great. We we're we're looking for the
1:09:08opportunity to uh provide more
1:09:10information um to council and community.
1:09:13>> Thank you. And when would you like us to
1:09:15have those questions to you?
1:09:17>> End of this week.
1:09:18>> Yes, if possible. Uh I think we we have
1:09:20to get everything um kind of finalized.
1:09:22Make sure we get all the packet
1:09:24together.
1:09:25>> Great. End of the week. Please get your
1:09:27questions to Director Stanger to pass on
1:09:29to the team. Thank you. Uh last up is
1:09:33our CIP updates for Q3.
1:09:36>> And while they make the journey up here,
1:09:39uh still sitting here Chris Stinger and
1:09:41coming to the table is principal planner
1:09:43Tess Wilkinson and capital manager Steve
1:09:47Gibbs. So this is a regular opportunity
1:09:50to provide council with a highle look at
1:09:52where we're at on active uh capital
1:09:54projects.
1:09:56uh including overall progress on any
1:09:58items that may be helpful for the
1:10:00committee to be aware of. And we're not
1:10:01going to go through every project in
1:10:04detail, but the intent is to give you an
1:10:06overview of the program and then allow
1:10:08us to focus on specific projects where
1:10:11you have questions uh or would like
1:10:12additional information. So with that,
1:10:14I'll turn it over to Tess.
1:10:18>> Thank you, Chris. Thank you, council,
1:10:19for having us once again. Tess
1:10:21Wilkinson. I am the capital improvements
1:10:24program planner in public works. Um so
1:10:27we're going to go through this fairly
1:10:28quickly tonight because uh this is this
1:10:31was a pretty packed agenda. Um looking
1:10:34at our slides, we have 35 active
1:10:36projects within uh the Q3. We added one
1:10:40new project. It was the 150th Avenue
1:10:43improvements. That project has been
1:10:45initiated uh fairly recently. We
1:10:48currently stand at 60% completion rate.
1:10:51I am hoping to finish the year somewhere
1:10:54between 70 and 80%. If we move on to the
1:10:57next slide, you can see which projects
1:11:00have been completed there on your left
1:11:02hand side. What we are hoping to
1:11:04complete still this year and the three
1:11:07that were originally targeted for
1:11:09completion this year and have needed to
1:11:11slide for one reason or another into
1:11:132027. Our most most recent project that
1:11:17will not make this year's deadline is
1:11:19the Willows Road water mane extension.
1:11:22Um the extensive uh underground utility
1:11:24work just went longer than we
1:11:27anticipated and we are moving into the
1:11:29colder fall and winter season and it is
1:11:32not uh ideal for paving and at least
1:11:36paving is going to stick around the way
1:11:38we would like it to.
1:11:41So here is um a quick slide on the
1:11:43projects that we did complete in uh Q3
1:11:45of 2026. That is the 154th paving and
1:11:49the EV charging phase two. Uh the EV
1:11:53charging project is going to be our
1:11:55featured project for um the general
1:11:58government slide. So we'll be giving you
1:12:00some more information on that one.
1:12:03Moving into our uh programs and programs
1:12:06report. Uh speaking of general
1:12:08government, uh we have completed nearly
1:12:11every active project in this portfolio.
1:12:14So yay for us. Uh the two ongoing ones
1:12:18are the MOC campus redevelopment. This
1:12:20is uh a project I'm sure you're all very
1:12:22aware of and will be continuing for
1:12:24several years to come and a new project
1:12:27started this year, the ADA improvements
1:12:29in the parks restroom, parks restrooms.
1:12:32Um looking forward looking ahead into
1:12:342027.
1:12:36Um we will begin another ADA facilities
1:12:40project and uh based on the outcome of
1:12:43the fire station 11 feasibility report
1:12:46we will probably begin uh initiating the
1:12:49design on that project as well.
1:12:52So as mentioned here is our featured
1:12:54project the EV charging stations phase
1:12:56two.
1:12:58Hello again, council. Steve Gibbs with
1:13:00Capital Projects. Um EV charging phase 2
1:13:04added um 15 dualport chargers into our
1:13:08city parking garage. So now that's able
1:13:10to take on 30 new um vehicles to
1:13:14electric vehicles to charge. The project
1:13:16is is basically physically complete. Um
1:13:20we are um we ordered the the chargers
1:13:24ourselves and so we're responsible for
1:13:26the warranty and when we set up the
1:13:29chargers, two of them are not
1:13:31cooperating and so we're currently doing
1:13:33a warranty repair on those. Um if if
1:13:37you've been in the garage lately, you'll
1:13:38notice that all those stalls are still u
1:13:41empty and so folks are still obeying the
1:13:44signs. Um we we are looking for the
1:13:47mayor's office to come up with a policy
1:13:49uh for um um city workers commuting with
1:13:55electric vehicles be able to use those
1:13:57uh chargers as well. And so you should
1:13:59see those stalls be occupied uh fairly
1:14:01soon. Um
1:14:04and then just a a note the the when we
1:14:07purchased those chargers um it was about
1:14:1045,000 for those uh 15 dual port
1:14:14chargers. So the prices have come down
1:14:16significantly since when we did the
1:14:18first phase uh back during CO. So happy
1:14:21to answer any questions on that one.
1:14:27Okay.
1:14:30>> All right. Moving right on along, this
1:14:32is our parks portfolio.
1:14:35Um we are still working on the reservoir
1:14:38park sports court replacement. That will
1:14:40be our featured project tonight to give
1:14:42you an update on um what is the delay on
1:14:44those. The uh am the Amly RCC landscape
1:14:49repairs, I believe in my um handouts to
1:14:53you that is still marked as being in
1:14:55design. It has moved on into uh
1:14:57construction and is one of our projects
1:14:59we hope to complete by the end of this
1:15:01year.
1:15:03So, looking ahead again into 2027,
1:15:06um we will begin just one new parks
1:15:08project and that is the Idlewood Park
1:15:10restrooms and concession building
1:15:12rebuild.
1:15:14So, moving on, our featured project,
1:15:16Reservoir Park. Again, over to Steve.
1:15:19>> Yeah, one one of my favorite projects.
1:15:21Um this one has been around a while. Um,
1:15:24if you recall, we missed the window to
1:15:27kind of complete that late last summer.
1:15:29Uh, so we had to wait this year. Um, I'm
1:15:32happy to report that we were complete as
1:15:36of yesterday.
1:15:38And so, um, I think what the only thing
1:15:41preventing us from opening up is we're
1:15:42getting a protective pad around the
1:15:44basketball post. I think that should be
1:15:46in tomorrow. So, maybe Friday, get your
1:15:49rackets ready. Um,
1:15:52I I know this was a little painful. Um,
1:15:54I think I I came in January and
1:15:56explained some of the difficulties and
1:15:58and the delays. I think we're still
1:15:59holding true to that extra 300,000 that
1:16:02we asked back then. We will be coming
1:16:05back. I'm I'm hoping to get it in by the
1:16:07end of this year as far as accepting the
1:16:08contract. May may squeeze into January,
1:16:10but um um everything kind of came out as
1:16:14anticipated from January, not from last
1:16:16year, but happy to answer any questions
1:16:19on that one.
1:16:25All right. Um on to to traffic
1:16:28operations here. As noted uh earlier, we
1:16:31did complete the paving on the 154th.
1:16:33Our uh ADA improvements curb rampant
1:16:36project is under construction. We expect
1:16:38to complete that this month. And our uh
1:16:4124th Street paving and utilities project
1:16:44will continue through the winter. We
1:16:46have completed all of our water main
1:16:49work are moving on to sewer now and we
1:16:52anticipate getting our paving completed
1:16:54in the summer. So, this project is on
1:16:57schedule. Uh looking ahead into 2027,
1:17:02um our traffic operations team will be
1:17:05uh coordinating with the city of Seamish
1:17:07and we will begin uh design work on our
1:17:10East Lake Seamish Parkway and 187th
1:17:12intersection improvements.
1:17:14um the their that excellent team that
1:17:17you just heard from will also be working
1:17:19on uh the downtown adaptive signals um
1:17:22an expansion of that as well as an
1:17:25active transportation safety program.
1:17:28This program has received um a safe
1:17:30streets for all grant and they will be
1:17:33putting in some um demonstration uh
1:17:37pedestrian and traffic safety control
1:17:38devices to do a study to see what is
1:17:41most effective so that this program can
1:17:43potentially move forward in the future
1:17:45with more funding and more locations
1:17:47throughout the city.
1:17:50Our featured project in this portfolio
1:17:53is the ADA uh transportation curb ramps
1:17:56project.
1:17:58Okay, on this one, um, we had three
1:18:00different sites. We had the school site,
1:18:03Horseman, Redmond High on 104th, a
1:18:05couple ramps on 111th, uh, just behind
1:18:08the school, and then again on 140th
1:18:11between about 69th and Northeast 80th.
1:18:14U, I'm sure you you're aware that we had
1:18:16some complaints on the school work. Uh,
1:18:19Council Member Sony, um, you asked about
1:18:21the schedule and if we could make it,
1:18:22and apparently we couldn't. Um I would
1:18:25say that the quality of the work is
1:18:26good. Uh the contractor performance was
1:18:30a little uh less than desirable. I think
1:18:32we just they got go going way too late
1:18:35and then kind of went out and uh took
1:18:38out all the ramps at once. That was not
1:18:40the plan. Um and so we basically
1:18:43continuous communication with the school
1:18:45as we worked through that. So um
1:18:48basically a couple of very trying weeks
1:18:50um on on that construction. Um the work
1:18:53looks good. We're out of the school
1:18:55zone. There's only a couple some
1:18:57striping items and a and a I think a
1:18:59median island left. Uh we're going to uh
1:19:02do that in the next couple weeks. The
1:19:04rest of the project should be done in
1:19:06probably by the end of the month uh into
1:19:08a little bit into next month. And and so
1:19:10um we may have to come back and do um
1:19:12some striping work next year. Just
1:19:14depends on how the weather cooperates,
1:19:16but the bulk of the work uh paving ADA
1:19:18ramp should be completed by the end of
1:19:20the year. Um,
1:19:23I think that's all I want to say on that
1:19:25one. [laughter]
1:19:26>> Council member Stewart.
1:19:28>> Yeah, thank you so much. Um, and
1:19:29appreciate the context uh and additional
1:19:31information there on this program
1:19:33overall, the ADA improvements for the
1:19:35curb ramps. Um, I I imagine we're going
1:19:38to see this program uh come back in the
1:19:40next bianium. And one of the things that
1:19:42I um I find difficult about uh since we
1:19:45transitioned kind of programs uh to to
1:19:49being kind of structured in this way is
1:19:51it's difficult for me um you said the
1:19:54three sites just now aloud but I can't
1:19:56see them from from this project sheet or
1:19:59from the information here. So even if
1:20:01they were just like little dots or
1:20:02something like that that were to
1:20:03indicate. The other reason I think that
1:20:05the storytelling behind how much it says
1:20:09here that we uh are spending $2.8
1:20:11million on these ADA improvements. We
1:20:14actually have a council approved master
1:20:15plan for how to uh transition all of
1:20:19these curve ramps over time. And um we
1:20:22we I think that we should pay a little
1:20:23bit more attention as a as a as a city
1:20:26to like are we on track with that? Uh, I
1:20:28recently looked it up so I kind of know
1:20:30the answer to that question, but um, it
1:20:32would be helpful to me as a council
1:20:34member to be able to see a little bit
1:20:36more of the story there and also to be
1:20:38able to have the conversations with my
1:20:39colleagues when it comes to
1:20:40infrastructure funding. Do we want to
1:20:42keep funding this at $2.8 million a
1:20:44bianium or or do we want to go bigger?
1:20:46Um, and having a a little bit more data
1:20:49to show just that 2.8 million is getting
1:20:52us three project sites when we have a
1:20:54lot more to go. So, um, just, uh, a
1:20:57little bit of more storytelling is
1:20:58something I'm interested in in the
1:21:00future. Thank you.
1:21:03>> Those are really good comments and good
1:21:04questions. And, um, helping staff
1:21:07develop and run programs is on one of my
1:21:10core to-do tasks in the upcoming year.
1:21:14This program, um, I know that right now,
1:21:16this project right now is funded at the
1:21:182.8 million. It actually receives
1:21:21bianial funding of only 600,000.
1:21:24So, having a quick uh off-the- cuff
1:21:26conversation with our ToS lead on this
1:21:29program, we are looking to potentially
1:21:31push the start of this out until 2029
1:21:36and take the money from this bianium
1:21:38adding it to the next bianium so that we
1:21:40have 1.2 million and we're able to
1:21:42deliver a lot more. 600,000 does not get
1:21:45us a lot of curb ramps especially when
1:21:47you consider that right now we have an
1:21:49active project which is the overlink
1:21:51accessibilities program which is funded
1:21:53at 1.5 million from Microsoft and that
1:21:56gets us 20 curb ramps as well as
1:21:58sidewalks and that is over double what
1:22:01the current benium funding on this
1:22:03program is. uh we have uh modified our
1:22:07project information sheets creating
1:22:10program information sheets and the
1:22:13intent behind that is to be able to show
1:22:16program progress in upcoming bianiums.
1:22:18This is a work in progress. I am still
1:22:21developing it with staff and trying to
1:22:23figure out the best way to move forward
1:22:24because I hear you on okay what are we
1:22:27getting? What have you done? What is the
1:22:29progress being made? And that is
1:22:30something that I am very passionate
1:22:32about being able to bring to you because
1:22:34if you we want to continue to have
1:22:37programs like this and like potential
1:22:39future programs such as utility pipe
1:22:42replacement programs, we need to be able
1:22:44to show that we are providing and
1:22:47delivering what you expect us to.
1:22:50>> Yeah. I don't I don't think that was a a
1:22:52comment about your delivery. I think
1:22:54it's about us wanting to fund so you can
1:22:56actually meet those.
1:22:57>> Yeah. I want to give you though the data
1:22:58and the confidence in giving us more
1:23:00funding because I will be back asking
1:23:02>> and we want to confidently give you more
1:23:04money.
1:23:05>> Please bring these alternatives for
1:23:06future study. Thank you.
1:23:07>> Absolutely.
1:23:10>> We'll do. Okay. So, moving on to our
1:23:12transportation planning program report.
1:23:15This is a pretty big and active program
1:23:17and we have a lot of uh potential
1:23:20project starts coming up in 2027. The
1:23:23three priority projects uh in
1:23:25transportation planning that will start
1:23:27next year are the Westlake Seamish
1:23:29roundabout and shared use path, the
1:23:32Westlake Seamish multimodal improvements
1:23:34phase 1 and the 156 buffered bike lanes.
1:23:38We would also probably be starting the
1:23:40161st cycle track has that project
1:23:42received um an active alternative
1:23:45transportation grant, something like
1:23:47that. Um I'm terrible on remembering the
1:23:49names of those. So as you can see this
1:23:51project these um pro programs and
1:23:54projects are progressing as expected.
1:23:57The bell red buffered bike lanes is
1:23:59there in yellow. We have completed
1:24:00schedule A of that work. Schedules B and
1:24:03C are um a little bit delayed. We are
1:24:06coordinating with Belleview and the
1:24:08delays are um mainly due to some uh
1:24:11materials
1:24:12>> signal head.
1:24:13>> Yeah. They they have a special signal
1:24:15head they want for that one.
1:24:17>> All right. So, our featured project is a
1:24:19twofer. This is the Northeast 36th
1:24:22Street Bike Facilities and the 148th
1:24:24Shared Use Path. Both of these projects
1:24:27are um 100% grant funded with the Move
1:24:30Ahead Washington grant. Um we will be
1:24:33doing design work concurrently together,
1:24:35but we will be constructing them
1:24:37separately.
1:24:39Yeah, just to add um the um these are to
1:24:43feed the 520 trail and then also get
1:24:46across the 36th Street Bridge to the
1:24:48other side. Um we've had a charter
1:24:51meeting on this. We've selected a
1:24:53consultant. Um and u um we're scheduling
1:24:57a design kickoff, so we're just getting
1:24:59going on this. Um more to come in our
1:25:03next update.
1:25:09All right, our utilities portfolio. Um,
1:25:12the top project on there we talked about
1:25:14earlier. Those that's the water tank
1:25:16repairs done in conjunction with the
1:25:18reservoir park sports court repairs. Um,
1:25:22this is a combined portfolio, as you may
1:25:25remember, with water, storm water, and
1:25:27wastewater utilities. Our featured
1:25:30project tonight is the 95th Street
1:25:32Bridge replacement. May sound weird to
1:25:34have a bridge in utilities, but this
1:25:35project is really driven by a
1:25:38requirement that the Department of Fish
1:25:40and Wildlife put on us from a project we
1:25:42did many years ago and is being funded
1:25:44primarily out of our storm water fund.
1:25:48>> Okay, I'll I'll try and be quick on this
1:25:50one. Um so the the 2010 work um we we
1:25:54needed to do some repairs on the bridge
1:25:56uh on some of the the piles uh
1:25:58supporting the bridge and as a condition
1:25:59of that fish and wildlife would um gave
1:26:03us approval but then they wanted the
1:26:05bridge removed with a more um a span
1:26:09that is more fitting for this stream and
1:26:12is better for the fish. And so we've
1:26:14been um this has been on our our books
1:26:18for a while. Um
1:26:21I think we came back we were here in 23
1:26:25uh June of 23 presented some options and
1:26:29at that time I think council was a
1:26:31little bit surprised by the options we
1:26:33were presenting and at that time we we
1:26:35were uh tasked with going back and doing
1:26:38some additional work. Since that time,
1:26:39we've uh done some critical area
1:26:41studies, uh some stream studies,
1:26:43hydraulic studies. Um looked at
1:26:47potential flooding. Um we did a traffic
1:26:49study. We contacted the emergency
1:26:51emergency responders on if there was any
1:26:54issues if this um bridge was only not a
1:26:57vehicular bridge, but just a bike ped
1:26:59bridge. And so we've completed all that
1:27:01work. Um we've we've kind of um
1:27:06evaluated three alternatives. One would
1:27:08be a vehicular bridge, bike ped bridge
1:27:10together. Uh the second one would be no
1:27:13bridge at all. And then the third one
1:27:15was just a bike ped bridge. I think
1:27:16staff is recommending a bike ped bridge.
1:27:19Um and we'd like to bring this probably
1:27:22to a study session early next year to
1:27:25let let council evaluate some of those
1:27:27options and and have a little more time
1:27:29to to talk about this. I don't think
1:27:31we're going to get all the questions
1:27:32you'd like to ask about on this one. Um
1:27:35but that's really our next steps. and
1:27:36then maybe a approach on outreach and
1:27:39how we would communicate this out. So
1:27:41that's that's what our commitment is
1:27:44study session early next year to discuss
1:27:46this.
1:27:47>> Yes. Thank you. Yes. Um definitely we'll
1:27:49see this back on a study session next
1:27:51year. And council members who don't have
1:27:54the history on this, I highly encourage
1:27:55you to reach out to staff to get that
1:27:57history. This has been going on for
1:27:58quite a long time. Um I I recalled when
1:28:01we were doing agenda setting how long
1:28:03this had been going on and there's a lot
1:28:05of details. So, please do reach out and
1:28:07and get some history on this project
1:28:09because there's a lot to dive in on.
1:28:13>> All right. Is that the end of our
1:28:16presentation?
1:28:18See?
1:28:20[sighs and gasps]
1:28:20>> Yes.
1:28:20>> All right. Thank you, Council President
1:28:23Stewart.
1:28:23>> Yeah. U this is the hot issue that I
1:28:25wanted to discuss and I appreciate that
1:28:27we're going to come back with a study
1:28:28session. My um big request given um the
1:28:31length of time that this project has
1:28:33been going on is um the granicus won't
1:28:36automatically pull for you the latest
1:28:38dates that council discussed this, but
1:28:40it will be very helpful actually for
1:28:42council members to go back and review
1:28:43the prior conversations that were had in
1:28:45this chambers about the project. So to
1:28:47please include those dates in the memo,
1:28:48that'd be very helpful. Thank you.
1:28:49>> June 6, 2023 was the last touch on this
1:28:52one.
1:28:52>> Thank you. All right. Thank you so much.
1:28:56That brings us to the end of our agenda.
1:28:58Thanks everyone for hanging in there and
1:29:00we are ajourned.