2026-10-06 - Committee of the Whole

Summary

Based on auto-generated captions, which have no text for the first 9 minutes; names and numbers may be misheard. All councilmembers attended the planning and public works committee. No formal votes were recorded; direction was given by consensus.

  • Municipal code cleanup, Titles 1 to 6 and 9: Chris Stenger and the city engineer presented the final phase of the code review, updating director references, deleting obsolete sections and aligning with current practice. Staff wanted the package on the October 20 consent agenda, but councilmembers raised questions, including Sayna Parsi's idea to let the public remove noxious weeds from public spaces, Melissa Stuart on timing relative to a possible Development Services reorganization, and Vanessa Kritzer on the weed list used. The committee did not send it to consent as drafted; staff will bring back revisions.
  • 2027 tourism grants: the Lodging Tax Advisory Committee recommended $171,500 for 19 external applicants and $150,000 for three city-funded applications ($321,500 total); one late application was not recommended, and staff said council cannot fund an event the committee did not recommend. Cleared for the October 20 consent agenda. See 2027 Tourism Grant Funding (LTAC recommendations).
  • Planning Commission rules: the ordinance removes the excused and unexcused absence distinction, focuses on excessive absences and sets a removal process through the mayor with final council action. Councilmembers asked about vacancies, stricter attendance, public participation and council-commission communication. Placed on the consent agenda, subject to being pulled. See Planning Commission Absence Rules (Ordinance 3270).
  • Development impact fees and the Lake Washington School District agreement: a senior planner proposed indexing 2027 transportation impact fees by 0.41 percent, updating the 2006 interlocal agreement, a new school fee schedule based on bedroom counts, a higher city administrative fee and developer affidavits for bedroom counts. Parks and fire fees follow separate processes, possibly bundled in November. Questions are due October 16 and the item returns November 2. See Development Impact Fees and School District Interlocal Agreement and Fire Impact Fee Phase-In.
  • Downtown adaptive signal control (informational): signals along Redmond Way were upgraded; staff reported maintained or better progression, about 7 seconds less eastbound and nearly 3 seconds less westbound weekday PM transit delay per trip, and about 2.5 metric tons of CO2 saved per weekday. A staff report is planned for October 20. See Downtown Adaptive Signal Control Project.
  • Third quarter 2026 capital improvement update (informational): 35 active projects with a 60 percent completion rate, one new project (150th Avenue improvements), 154th Avenue paving and EV charging phase 2 completed, ADA curb ramp schedule problems, and the 95th Street Bridge replacement returning for a study session in early 2027.
  • The meeting adjourned after about 1 hour 29 minutes.

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09:18I should be able

10:16All right. Good evening everyone and

10:18welcome to the Tuesday October 6th

10:21committee the whole for planning and

10:23public works. All council members are in

10:25attendance and we have a busy agenda. So

10:27let's get rolling. First up we have the

10:29adoption of the ordinance to formalize

10:31updates to Redmond Municipal Code titles

10:331 2 3 4 5 6 and nine.

10:39Good evening, council. Uh Chris Stinger,

10:42acting director public works. Joining me

10:44tonight is Rob Kitten, city engineer.

10:47And as discussed, we are here uh to talk

10:50about putting the following item on a

10:52consent agenda. Uh this is the final

10:55phase of the comprehensive review we

10:57undertook to make sure uh municipal code

11:00is current, clear, and aligned with how

11:03the city operates today. Uh earlier this

11:06year, council approved titles 10, 12,

11:0813, and 15. And tonight, we're bringing

11:11forward the remaining updates to titles

11:13one through six and title 9. So at a

11:17high level, these changes are intended

11:18to clarify roles, responsibilities, and

11:21authorities, remove outdated or

11:23inconsistent language, and better align

11:26the code with our current organizational

11:28structure, policies, procedures, and

11:30practices established through our APWA

11:33accreditation effort. So, we've also

11:36completed uh public outreach processes

11:38associated with these updates. We've

11:40received no comments or appeals and the

11:43city clerk and city attorney have

11:44reviewed the proposed ordinances. So

11:47tonight, we're asking for council

11:48direction to proceed. Following that

11:50direction, public works will bring the

11:52seven ordinances forward for adoption on

11:55the October 20th business meeting. And

11:57with that, I'll turn it over to Rob to

12:00fill in any detail.

12:02>> You did steal a lot of my thunder there,

12:04like ripping out pages of my script. So

12:07yes, as Chris had said, this is the

12:10final phase of our comprehensive update

12:12of the municipal code. Uh we came to you

12:14all starting in June of 25 and uh went

12:18through 10, 12, 13, and 15 and and you

12:22approved changes to those in April of

12:2426. Uh those were very complicated

12:27changes as you may recall. There's a lot

12:29of moving parts there. The changes to uh

12:32titles one through six and nine are much

12:34simpler. Uh it's quite a bit of of uh

12:37you kind of cleaning up work and also

12:40making sure that any references that we

12:43created within 10 12 13 and 15 are

12:47correctly called out here.

12:49The so the memo the council memo

12:53includes a uh attachment h which is a

12:57listing of all the changes and also the

12:59rationale. So, I have that table along

13:01if we want to talk about any specific

13:03rationale items. And then I also have

13:06all of the ordinances up uh if we want

13:09to get to that depth. The city clerk and

13:12the city attorney have gone through

13:13these and so they're pretty much ready

13:16for prime time with council.

13:19So,

13:20the going to the some of the specific

13:22changes, what we did is we went through

13:24and we made sure that any definitions

13:27were current. We uh uh corrected

13:30director titles. Uh some of them were

13:32outdated titles, no longer used or just

13:36incorrectly stated where it would say

13:38like uh Department of Public Works

13:40director or something like that. We

13:41would we would clean that up. They were

13:43kind of a wide variety as we went

13:45through code. Then more importantly, we

13:48deleted sections that no longer reflect

13:50current practices. My favorite is the

13:541965

13:56uh section that that funded the current

14:00building. Not not the one that we're

14:01looking to build uh coming up now, but

14:04funded the current one. And so that fund

14:06has been uh def defunct for quite some

14:09time. Uh then we also uh looked at

14:13adding language uh as I'd mentioned uh

14:15for references

14:18other parts of the code. We decided to

14:19take out specific language about

14:22delegates and designates because it was

14:24spread throughout the code in all sorts

14:25of fashions again. So we took those out

14:28and we referenced specific sections

14:30here. And so within title one and title

14:32two we state uh essentially that for

14:35instance for the city engineer the city

14:37engineer

14:39is authorized for these duties or his

14:43their their delegates or designates as

14:46uh as specifically assigned by the

14:49public works director or the mayor. So

14:51we have that language in there.

14:54So those are kind of the key ones. I

14:57like I say, I would be glad to go

14:59through each of the items if you'd like.

15:01Uh but again, what we're asking for is

15:05just uh approval to move on to the

15:07regular council meeting on October 20th.

15:10>> Great. Council members questions. I'll

15:12start with council member Percy.

15:14>> Thank you. There's an item for noxious

15:17wheat. Um there is a section that I

15:21would love to consider adding. Um there

15:24is currently um I'm sorry my browser

15:27just completely closed and all of my

15:29notes went with it. Um but I will speak

15:32from my memory. Um the uh noxious weeds

15:35it references our existing code which

15:37has a section that says owner can remove

15:41noxious weeds. The owner is very unclear

15:43who the owner is, where that noxious

15:45weed is. Um, and I would love to see if

15:48we can add a section there to say um,

15:52anyone from the public who can who

15:55identifies a noxious weed from the list

15:57of noxious weeds that is approved um is

16:01um allowed to remove noxious weeds with

16:04manual effort from the public spaces.

16:06Uh, so not using any um heavy tools or

16:11herbicides just manual action. if you

16:13see something, you can pull it. So that

16:15um brings a sentiment of public

16:17ownership and um the right to um the

16:22right to maintain your public lands. So

16:24I would love to see if that's something

16:26that we can consider safely adding to

16:28the code um because especially because

16:30the current owner section is very

16:32confusing from the existing code and no

16:34a proposal to change that has been uh

16:36shared yet.

16:38>> Thank you. Is there any um concern with

16:41an amendment like that?

16:42>> I don't think so. I think that as long

16:44as they are the the only issue is and we

16:47have this sometimes if depending to the

16:49extent of what folks are doing on public

16:51land, it always is that gray area where

16:55it's one thing to go out and pull a

16:56single weed, but if you're you've

16:58decided that and they may not not

17:01realize that maybe they're not really

17:02doctor's weeds and they go out and pull

17:04out, you know, 400 of them and it turns

17:06out the parks department had just

17:07planted them. So those those sorts of

17:09things. So we'd have to be careful with

17:10the language. Uh but yeah, I can

17:12certainly take that back to our natural

17:13resource folks and kind of talk through

17:15that.

17:15>> Is there council support for an

17:17amendment like that?

17:20>> Thumbs.

17:23>> I have a comment. [laughter]

17:25>> Um okay, we'll come back to that and

17:28move on to the next comment. Uh Council

17:30President Stewart, did you have a

17:31comment on that one?

17:32>> Sure. on that, I would say um I would

17:35love to to find the balance um because I

17:38think dandelions for instance, you know,

17:40might be something that can easily be

17:42recognized and and perhaps, but I do

17:44recognize the concern and would actually

17:46want to hear back from the staff um what

17:48they think of the proposal. So, um I

17:50don't know if I support a full amendment

17:52yet, but I would be interested in seeing

17:53the information come back. And that's

17:55actually related to my uh my own comment

17:58or question here about the um the

18:00amendments in front of us. There are

18:02actually um two categories

18:06of

18:07>> [snorts]

18:07>> uh references in these chapters that um

18:11make me wonder if we should wait to

18:17adopt these updates

18:19um until after the determination is made

18:23on the potential reorg of development

18:25services. Throughout this document,

18:27there are many references to the

18:29director of planning and uh community

18:31development. That that title and that

18:35role may soon change as well as the

18:37technical committee is referred to. Um

18:40and as proposed, if that reorg were to

18:42go through, the technical committee

18:43would no longer um be uh something that

18:47we maintain here at the city. So

18:49overall, I think that most of the uh

18:52edits that are being made in this

18:53package seem like we're headed in the

18:55right direction, but I do wonder about

18:57the timeline and saving ourselves a a

18:59little bit of duplicative work if we

19:02were to delay. Um and in which case, if

19:04we're going to see this again, would

19:05definitely love to see the answer uh

19:07back from staff on the proposal from my

19:09colleague. Thank you.

19:10>> Thank you.

19:11>> So yes, we we did talk about that

19:14internally. So, I talked with Jason

19:15Lynch and Jeff Churchill uh about

19:19whether we should finish this effort up

19:21or not. And we tend to lean towards I I

19:23I I think the sentiment isn't too strong

19:26either way about moving forward

19:27immediately. Now, we're waiting. But, uh

19:30we tend to think that we've already made

19:32all these changes in 10, 12, 13, and 15.

19:35So, we'll have to go through those

19:36anyway if we're if we're adding director

19:38names and changing things like that. And

19:40so the benefit of finishing this up now

19:42is everything through the entire code

19:44would be consistent. And so you could go

19:46through and let's say we add another

19:48director or change a director name, it'd

19:49be consistent without having to remember

19:51to catch pick up these other ones. But

19:54again, the sentiment wasn't super strong

19:56either way.

19:57>> Thank you. Uh I saw uh Council Member

20:01Sony and then Council Member Critzer.

20:04>> Uh thank you. Um actually my question

20:06was exactly same what uh council

20:09president Stewart asked. So I'll ask

20:10another question because there was no

20:13comment that was received during the

20:15public hearing and public um open

20:17comments for this thing. What is the

20:20method or way that we are adopting to

20:23ensure that all related parties or like

20:26people like getting impacted or even our

20:28developers, contractors or the cable

20:31operators like you know to see these

20:32code changes.

20:33>> Yes. uh we've worked with the

20:35communications group. We decided that

20:36for these changes which are you know

20:38fairly administrative in nature uh we

20:41that the let's connect page that was

20:43posted for uh I think we p posted for a

20:46month and a half uh and there were a lot

20:49of lot of uh I think it was downloaded

20:52200 times 254 views so definitely people

20:55came in and looked at it uh and I think

20:58the just the nature of the changes

21:00didn't warrant going to something more

21:02extensive

21:04uh it was These are most of these

21:06changes are not something that would

21:08have a direct impact on people's

21:10everyday lives such as the ones that 10

21:1310 12 13 and 15 definitely did you know

21:15such as sight sewer costs and and storm

21:18water treatment and things like that.

21:22>> Thank you council member Kitzer and then

21:23council vice president Nova Kamina.

21:26>> Thank you. Um and I appreciate the the

21:29notes from my colleagues about potential

21:31changes especially since there's so many

21:32changes on public works director and

21:34there is a lot of discussion about that

21:36about those positions right now. Um I I

21:40would say um on the noxious weeds uh

21:42definitely interested in in the language

21:44proposal um and uh get kind of getting

21:47the the right scoping on that um so that

21:50way we can encourage uh people to remove

21:52noxious weeds but but also uh be super

21:56clear about um uh maintaining uh some of

22:00the things that we want to to be in the

22:02public right away as well. So um but I

22:04really appreciate that. One question I

22:06actually had on the noxious weed section

22:08um is the actual change of uh of going

22:11from going to the the King County list.

22:15Um and I'm just curious how much we

22:18think that will would change the list

22:20from how we the list we currently

22:23maintain.

22:24What I heard from Aaron Mulver, who's

22:27the natural resources manager, is that

22:30uh the county does a much better job of

22:33continually keeping that up and making

22:35sure that it reflects the current

22:36thinking and practice on the noxious

22:38weeds. The city uh

22:41because they are kind of a central

22:42reposi repository of that information.

22:44The county is it he thought it'd be

22:46better to have the city just add on

22:48things that might be more applicable to

22:50the city of Redmond. So that was the

22:52thinking that they they spend more time

22:55and keep it up on a very regular basis.

22:58>> So So should it be more like a King

23:00County noxious weeds list with additions

23:03that are relevant to the city of Redmond

23:05or it would it be comprehensive within

23:07the King County list?

23:09>> Yeah, we would we would adopt the list,

23:11but then the the language allows the

23:13director to add

23:16>> revised as determined by the public

23:17works director. Okay. And a while back,

23:20actually, I think it was during like

23:21maybe my first year on council, we were

23:24discussing specifically around um

23:27noxious weed removal um and some of the

23:31approach to that um in particular um the

23:34allowed practices um and um and

23:38chemicals that that can be used for

23:39that. And I'm wondering um whether there

23:43uh whether it was considered to to add

23:45any additional which I know there's been

23:47some work on that in recent years

23:48whether there's any updates that were

23:50considered um to add in here as well.

23:55>> We can take a look at that with the uh

23:56staff but uh I am cognizant of uh some

24:00some of those BMP's best maintenance

24:03practices have been implemented in some

24:05of the past conversations but we'll take

24:07a look with the group for sure.

24:10Thank you. I have another question, but

24:12I'll wait till the next round.

24:13>> Council me Council Vice President No

24:15Camina.

24:15>> Thank you. Um my my question first

24:18stemmed from the um uh the proposed

24:21language addition from Council Member

24:24Parsy uh about timeline and if that if

24:29that was going to be something um that

24:31we could get done before this went to

24:34consent. However, with the other changes

24:37you're looking at, is this

24:41because there are going to be other

24:42changes that we're already anticipating

24:45and um thank you for bringing up the

24:47point that of the the consistency

24:50looking for are we looking for direction

24:53to go ahead and pass this now as is

24:56knowing that we're going to rather

24:59almost immediately need to start then

25:02the this the next round of adjustments

25:05based on a possible reorg and additional

25:08language.

25:12>> Yeah.

25:13>> And now with the third with um best

25:15practices with what uh removal

25:19mechanisms can be used.

25:20>> Yes. I I think we could probably turn

25:22that language around fairly quickly with

25:24a proposal. But yeah, I get I can't I

25:27won't sit here and tell you that we must

25:28pass this by October 20th. It was just

25:30it it was a natural pro progress and and

25:34we've reached the point where we think

25:35it's we'd make that consistency as I'd

25:37mentioned. But yes, I if it if it got

25:39pushed off a month later or something

25:41like that, I I

25:42>> would it how how would would there be a

25:45change of experience for staff, right?

25:47Like would it be a little bit smoother

25:49if we if we had the um the consistency

25:54now before end of year or you know

25:56within the month or or would it be

25:58easier to The only the only key I think

26:02the only key two key items that uh are I

26:06would call them timesensitive is the the

26:08two uh sections that that talk about

26:12designates and delegates because we

26:14already reference those sections in 10

26:1812 13 right now they're they reference

26:20nothing because they that there's

26:22nothing there for to turn to. So it

26:25would be nice to get those in. And

26:26that's a divi a title one and a title

26:28two change. Uh and then there's a few

26:32others that uh obviously the like the

26:351965 has been there for this long it

26:38could wait another month you know but uh

26:40uh so I think there's just a few that

26:42would be timesensitive.

26:44>> Thank you. Thank you. Um council member

26:47Curtzer do you have one more question

26:48quickly?

26:50>> Yes. I would just say um would love uh

26:53when this item comes back if uh the only

26:56kind of item that I had wanted

26:58clarification on and we don't have to go

27:00over it today would be um what function

27:04with even though we don't have a health

27:05officer now what function within our

27:08team does serve uh what it seems like

27:11the health officer used to do.

27:15>> Thank you. Yes. Like real quickly, the

27:18qu closest thing we could find was King

27:19County and their their board of health

27:23and the that you know what they would do

27:26from a like a septic sanitary sewer

27:28standpoint. So we didn't really find any

27:31real parallel in the city today, but we

27:34can get you a better answer than that.

27:37>> Go ahead.

27:38>> And that and that parallels with a lot

27:39of that APWA work. you know, one of the

27:42trying not to go off topic, but vector

27:45control program. Um, King County is our,

27:48you know, deferral mechanism for that in

27:50lie of the uh public health officer for

27:52Redmond. So, I would see this as the

27:55same, but we'll definitely check it in

27:56there, but I would I would see parallel

27:58courses for the both. [snorts]

28:01>> Councilman Percy, do you have a

28:02follow-up real quick? Quick question.

28:04Um, in the business administration item,

28:07administration and personnel item, I

28:08spotted that we're changing the title of

28:11the technology director to chief

28:13technology officer. I wanted to better

28:15understand if there could be fiscal

28:17implications for that as in with the

28:19title change potentially. There could be

28:21compensation differences that we would

28:22have to consider potentially as part of

28:25um this budget cycle or in the future or

28:27kind of why why the change in title

28:31>> that that is their current title and so

28:36all we did was do it to the current

28:37titles and update that.

28:39>> Great. So it sounds like we're going to

28:40see some things back with this. Um, it

28:43doesn't necessarily sound like we have

28:46uh council, do we have approval for

28:49consent or do we want to see things

28:50back? So, see things back. Thumbs up.

28:54Okay. So, we we'd like to see some

28:56things back before we see this go to

28:58consent.

28:59>> Okay.

28:59>> Great. Thank you.

29:00>> Thank you.

29:01>> Moving right along. Approval of the 2027

29:04tourism grant funding uh lodging tax

29:08advisory committee recommendations.

29:14Okay. And I'm going to get started since

29:16I know we're running a bit. Um, hello

29:19council. Uh, my name is Sari Allen. I'm

29:21the interim planning director. Uh, this

29:24agenda item will be presented by Jackie

29:26Leler, our economic development and

29:28tourism program manager or

29:29administrator. Sorry. The um lodging tax

29:32advisory committee, also known as ELTAC,

29:35met on September 1 to review 20 external

29:38grant applications and three city

29:40applications for 2027 annual funding. Um

29:43Jackie will provide you details um on

29:45the annual uh tourism grant program and

29:482027 funding recommendations. And then

29:50we will be back later tonight um to

29:53share with you more about the city's

29:54overall tourism program. Um, and then I

29:56also wanted to give a shout out to our

29:58Eltech chair. Um, and um, she might want

30:01to add some comments at the end of

30:02Jackie's, but I'll now turn it over to

30:04Jackie.

30:07Thank you and thank you city council for

30:09having me tonight.

30:11Uh, this is our annual tourism grant

30:13program and in accordance with the RCW

30:15requirements, the ELTAC reviewed the

30:172027 grant applications and is providing

30:20their recommendations to the city

30:22council. These grants are funded through

30:25a 1% lodging tax collected from hotels

30:28and short-term rentals in Redmond.

30:31As a priority and requirement under the

30:34state law, lodging tax funds should

30:36support tourism related programs that

30:38have a portion of their audience coming

30:40from more than 50 miles away and are

30:42intended to generate paid overnight

30:44stays.

30:46Additional considerations for applicants

30:48include cultural elements, the ability

30:51to draw large audiences to Redmond, and

30:54the potential economic impact for our

30:56local small businesses.

30:58If helpful, the attachments and content

31:00of your memo include a full scoring

31:03criteria, all grant applications, and

31:06tourism programming frequently asked

31:08questions. During the grant cycle, the

31:11ELTAC voted and recommended $171,500

31:15in tourism matching grants for 19

31:18applicants, external applicants, and an

31:21additional $150,000 for three city-f

31:24funed applications supporting events and

31:27cultural arts programming. Together, the

31:29total funding recommendation is for

31:32$321,500.

31:36A few items of interest for this year's

31:38grant cycle are that four applications

31:40did rec require a recusal by one

31:43committee member who is actively

31:45involved in the event planning or

31:48submitted the application themsel.

31:51We received seven new applicants this

31:53year including four applications for new

31:56events. One of which is a

31:58crossjurisdiction

31:59Washington state marathon with a

32:01starting point in Redmond.

32:04One application for a small folk dance

32:06workshop was not recommended for funding

32:08as they turned in their application past

32:10the deadline.

32:12Staff have communicated with this event

32:14producer and they plan to apply again

32:16next year. As other grants come

32:18available, I will make sure to pass

32:20those on to the applicant as well. We

32:23would like to proceed with adding this

32:25item to the October 20th consent agenda

32:27for your approval. Thank you.

32:30>> Thank you. And I wanted to note and see

32:32if the Eltech chair, um, Council Member

32:34Critzer had anything you'd like to add.

32:37>> Well, thank you so much. Um, I ju I

32:39first just want to say thanks to our

32:40wonderful staff. Um, also, uh, Philly

32:43March, who wasn't at the table as well,

32:45um, who, uh, worked on this. Um, and,

32:48uh, and to the Eltech members, uh, who

32:50spent a great deal of time reviewing all

32:52the different applications. Um it was

32:54really wonderful to kind of to be a part

32:56of of the process and be able to hear

32:59the very thoughtful deliberations

33:01um looking deeply at the data um around

33:04especially projected night stays since

33:06that is uh one of the the key criteria

33:08but also kind of weighing all the

33:10different types of things um that we

33:12want to bring to our city and that will

33:14bring people to our city to want to come

33:16stay here. So, um, just, uh, really want

33:18to express my appreciation. Um, and I'll

33:21note, uh, we did have a before we began

33:23deliberations on how much to, as you

33:25probably saw from the notes, but I'll

33:27just highlight, um, before we begin

33:28deliberations on how much to allocate to

33:30each of the the different grants, um, we

33:33did consider whether uh, we would

33:35include the late grant application. Um

33:37and one thing that uh was noted that um

33:40previously there had been late grant

33:42applications and this year the staff

33:44took extra attention to make sure it was

33:46not only on the website the time the

33:49exact time of day and the deadline but

33:50it was also on the application in red at

33:53the very top. Um and so the the group

33:56did decide that just to be fair

33:58everybody should have to align by the

34:00rules and and so I I do hope uh that

34:02that applicant is able to apply uh in

34:04the future. Um and so um anyway, happy

34:08to answer any questions if people have

34:09about um the allocations as well.

34:12>> Any council member questions? Council

34:13member Parcy and then council member

34:15Sony.

34:16>> Hi. I actually would love to know how

34:19late did they apply and if we include

34:21them if this would potentially burden

34:23the staff because one of the things that

34:26I really liked about them was that they

34:28are very different from the rest of the

34:29applications that we have right now and

34:32that could potentially diversify the

34:34offerings that we provide. And then also

34:36I like that this was a new application

34:39versus many of the ones that we're

34:40already supporting are returning ones.

34:43So in the spirit of previously I think I

34:45heard from um council member Sony and

34:47many others that we want to support new

34:49applications. So from kind of that light

34:52I came in with a perspective of how can

34:54we support this candidate too. So I

34:56would love to hear your thoughts if that

34:57would be a burden for staff to support.

35:00Great. Thank you for the question. This

35:02does come up often when we're not able

35:03to or when they choose not to fund an

35:05event. So, we have sought legal counsel

35:09on this exact question and what we've

35:11been told by two different attorneys is

35:13that if the lodging tax committee

35:16doesn't put it forward for funding, then

35:19the council cannot give funding to an

35:21event that was not recommended. You can

35:24change funding of those that are

35:26recommended and it would have to go back

35:28for comment from the ELAC for 45 days

35:31before you can approve it. They can't

35:33say no, but they just need 45 days for

35:35consideration, but to fund an event that

35:38they chose not to fund is two different

35:41attorneys have said it's not allowed

35:43based on the RCW and I should actually

35:45put that in the FAQs in the future. So,

35:47I apologize. That's my bad. Um, but you

35:51could choose to fund them through a

35:53different source. It just can't be the

35:54lodging tax.

35:58Council member Kitzer,

35:59>> I'll also note it seemed like um

36:01hopefully this event was going to be put

36:03on regardless. It's just whether the

36:05ELTAC would fund it. And I think what we

36:07talked about was just the fairness

36:08because if we gave money to an applicant

36:11who didn't uh abide by the the timeline,

36:14it meant that there would be less money

36:15for those who did abide by the timeline.

36:17So hopefully just encourages them to

36:19come back to this source in the future

36:21and make sure to apply by the deadline.

36:23Thank you for the legal explanation on

36:25that as well and for putting the

36:27deadlines in multiple places. I think

36:28that helps cover us as well. Uh council

36:31member Sony,

36:33>> thank you so much chair. Um I have lot

36:36of questions and I do serve in the elac

36:39board for another city. So you know

36:41that's the reason it's like have some

36:43kind of an experience and a granular

36:44lens to look at. First is this year we

36:49we were expected to have higher

36:52um budget for the next year because of

36:55uh FIFA World Cup and the number of

36:57hotel rooms booked while I'm seeing that

36:592027 and 2028 the budget is decreased

37:03which is little surprise to me. Uh so

37:06that that's indicating that the the

37:09number of rooms booked in 2026 are less

37:13while they should have been higher. So

37:15that is definitely my first question and

37:18maybe if I can ask my follow-up

37:20question.

37:22Sure. Sure. So in terms of the uh total

37:25room nights like you know when I'm

37:27looking into some of these room nights

37:29my question is is this per person per

37:32room night or is it the actual room

37:36booked? Because the numbers that I'm

37:38seeing here they definitely do not look

37:41realistic. I do host events. So I have a

37:44lot of experience in booking room nights

37:46and these things. These numbers are not

37:47looking very realistic to me. So what

37:50method are we adopting to ensure that

37:53the reports that are submitted and the

37:55the the rooms proposed versus room

37:58booked there is an alignment. So is

38:00there a report that is taken from every

38:03hotel where these were booked so that

38:05there is a transparency

38:07or is it like you know based on whatever

38:10was submitted is just accepted.

38:14>> I'm going to start actually with the

38:16first question say that we'll address

38:17that in our report tonight just because

38:19I know we're running short on time but

38:20we'll talk about um where we've been

38:22what we saw from the World Cup and what

38:24we're projecting for future. So if it's

38:26okay with the council, I'll put a pin in

38:27that one and go to the second technical

38:29question. Okay,

38:32great. And so on the second piece of

38:35your question, some of the numbers are

38:37not realistic. That is something that

38:38ELTAC also discusses. That's a big

38:41challenge with this committee is many of

38:43these numbers can't be proven except for

38:45the soccer tournaments can prove their

38:47numbers because they have printouts from

38:48the hotelers. So the large soccer

38:51tournaments are some of the only events

38:52that we host that can prove their

38:54numbers. Uh this is something that

38:57repeatedly comes up. We will be running

38:59some geo fencing data on events that are

39:01large enough to grab data but not all

39:04the events are large enough. So it is

39:05self reported. Um but that does go into

39:09the conversations that are had. So even

39:11though someone may say they bring so

39:12many bed uh heads in beds, it doesn't

39:17necessarily mean that the ELAC is taking

39:18that at face value of what's in the

39:20application. They did discuss that on

39:22many of the events, but you're right,

39:23that's a that's a really big challenge

39:25for the ELTAC at this point in time.

39:28>> I also wanted to add that we are um

39:30continuing to invest in more data

39:32collection. So we both have the Placer,

39:33but we're um seeing your budget and

39:35Heather, we're doing u better on um

39:37collecting more data in general. And so

39:39that will hopefully be something that

39:41will help with that.

39:42>> Thank you. To keep us on time, I'm going

39:44to move us forward since we're going to

39:45be hearing a little more about this

39:46tonight. Um, is anyone objecting to this

39:49going on consent on the 20th?

39:53Great. Thank you. We will see this back

39:55on October 20th. Um, thank you for the

39:59briefing and for hearing more about this

40:01later as well. Appreciate it. Uh, next

40:03up is amending RMC 3.1 development

40:06impact fees and amending contract uh

40:095251 interlocal agreement on collection.

40:14Oh,

40:19sorry.

40:24Wasn't printed on the

40:26>> Oh, my bad. All right. Apologies. We are

40:29up. We are moving on to the updated

40:30planning commission rules of procedure.

40:33Apologies.

40:35Tricky at the top there. [laughter]

40:38Um, all right. So, good afternoon. I'm

40:40going to start talking while staff uh uh

40:42arrives so we can keep things moving.

40:44Uh, I'm here with uh, uh, Cheryl Zanos,

40:47our uh, city clerk, Becky Fry, our

40:49interim long-range planning manager, and

40:51um, Jeff Churchill, our interim um,

40:53development services deputy to introduce

40:56um, some updates to the planning

40:57commission rules and procedures uh,

40:59related to uh, sorry and then related to

41:02updates to the Redmond Municipal Code.

41:04So, the proposal introduced today uh, is

41:07for an ordinance amending RMC4

41:10uh,.43.080

41:11080 and a resolution updating the

41:14planning commission rules of procedure.

41:17The Redmond Planning Commission is

41:19established in the Redmond Mun Municipal

41:21Code um 4.43 and the basics of planning

41:25commission authority and operations are

41:26also contained within that RMC. Um these

41:29are uh these rules are supplemented um

41:32by the rules and procedures adopted

41:34pursuant to that RMC. And um I also

41:37wanted to share and Becky will share

41:39about this a little bit but um or sorry

41:42I'll turning it over to Cheryl to share

41:44this first uh about um the Do you have

41:48that? Okay. Uh turning it over to Cheryl

41:50to uh because this has kind of been a a

41:52twofur where the clerk's office has been

41:54drafting some um standard rules and

41:57procedures which Cheryl will talk about

41:58and then the reason we're here before

42:00you is what Becky will speak to which is

42:01how it's specific to the planning

42:03commission. So Cheryl, I'll turn it over

42:05to you.

42:07Cheryl Alexanth, city clerk.

42:09Boards, commissions, and committees are

42:11made up of qualified, responsible, and

42:12motivated community members. Through

42:14appointed positions, they contribute to

42:16the success of the city and the quality

42:18of life for all residents to provide

42:20consistency in public expectations at

42:22city meetings. A standardized rules of

42:24procedure was developed. Rules of

42:26procedures from other jurisdictions and

42:28best practices were reviewed to create

42:30the stand the standardized framework in

42:33ensuring consistency strengthens how the

42:35community interacts with city

42:36government. We focused on the planning

42:39commission first. The rules of procedure

42:41will be rolled out to each of the city's

42:42other boards, commissions, and

42:44committees for review and adoption.

42:46Each board, commission, and committee is

42:48unique in its purpose, mission, and

42:49role. So, the rules will be adjusted for

42:51each body based on its specific

42:53responsibilities.

42:55I will be working with staff leaison to

42:57develop a timeline that reflects the

42:59amount of work needed for each set of

43:00roles in alignment with their meeting

43:02schedules.

43:08And we'll turn it over to Becky to talk

43:09about how the planning commission rules

43:11and procedures are the only ones that

43:12will come before the council for

43:14ratification due to all the RMC language

43:16I spoke to earlier in the introduction.

43:19So Becky,

43:21>> so the com planning commission took the

43:23standardized rules and procedures and

43:25they are also suggesting edits um and

43:29recommendations related to attendance.

43:32Uh the edits remove the distinction of

43:34excused and unexcused and just really um

43:37focus on if the absences are excessive

43:39or not.

43:41Um, the edits also remove the

43:43requirement that the planning commission

43:44provide a written request to remove a

43:46commissioner due to excessive absences

43:48and instead it just refers to a new

43:50removal process which would be created

43:52in RMC. Um, that leaves the discretion

43:56to the mayor, but it doesn't change the

43:58final removal. It requires a council

44:00vote. Um, if the council adopts the

44:03commission recommendations on changes in

44:05attendance, uh, this will only impact

44:07the rules for the planning commission.

44:09it won't impact any other boards and

44:10commissions rules and procedures. It's

44:12specific to them. Uh staff requested

44:15this item be placed on the October 20th

44:17consent agenda, but we're happy to

44:19answer any questions.

44:22Questions from council, council member

44:24Percy.

44:26>> I have two questions about this. I'll

44:28start with the first one. um at the um

44:31very end of the document where we are

44:34removing um the section that uh the seat

44:38becomes vacant and a successor shall be

44:40appointed. Uh so that section is removed

44:43and also referencing uh the um larger

44:47code and context to this. Um we are

44:50getting rid of all of the areas where

44:52there is an appointment process to be

44:54followed. So, I'm concerned that we

44:56don't have any uh fall back for um

44:59appointing a successor or um uh someone

45:02to replace this candidate. Uh can you

45:05please show me where or how we're um

45:08kind of covering for this um successor

45:11replacement?

45:28Do you have a section you want to point

45:30to? Looks like staff are scrolling.

45:32>> 44380.

45:37And then um

45:41and then

45:44yeah,

45:46>> not all of 4.43 is in the document. So

45:5044350

45:52is appointments and qualifications and

45:53that does speak to how um commissioners

45:56are appointed. So we're not going to

45:58lose that.

46:00>> Yeah. Say there's

46:11>> seems to be some confusion. Are you

46:15>> can you Yeah. Can you clarify what you

46:16said again?

46:17I understood to be the concern that

46:19there's no more appointment language in

46:22080. The appointment language exists in

46:26443 050 and that's not being edited. So

46:29that appointment language will still

46:30exist and when the vacancy is created,

46:32the vacancy will be filled in the manner

46:35prescribed by 050.

46:37>> Yeah,

46:39I'm going to move on and then we'll come

46:41back. Uh Council Member Pro,

46:45>> thank you. Um I was just wondering at a

46:48high level um if these revisions uh you

46:52know given that the planning commission

46:54is one of the commissions that is

46:55mandated by state law how restrictive

46:59these uh revisions are compared to other

47:02municipalities. I mean I'm just I'm just

47:04looking at at that same section

47:064.43.080.

47:08Uh the last section, the members

47:10position shall be considered for vacancy

47:12if uh before the next regular meeting.

47:16Um

47:19oh sorry I the previous sentence when

47:21when a member misses three consecutive

47:23regular business meetings. Um we're

47:24crossing out the uh without being

47:27excused by a majority vote section. Um

47:30and and I think this language is

47:32actually like more restrictive than the

47:34language for council members u via the

47:37RCW. I think as a council member, you

47:40only lose your seat uh if it's three

47:42unexcused business meetings in a row. Um

47:44so that um just prompts my question as

47:47to how restrictive are these measures on

47:50commissioners compared to other

47:51jurisdictions.

47:53>> I guess I'll say this is what the

47:54planning commission asked for. Um they

47:57wanted to remove that distinction

47:58between excused and unexcused and then

48:02wanted to focus on just total number of

48:03absences. So, you're right. It is a um a

48:06different threshold than for council

48:08because the commission only wanted to

48:10focus on absences. Um it's not something

48:13that the council needs to adopt. This

48:16language is not required by the RCW. It

48:19is within their uh ability to suggest

48:22this and to operate that way um if they

48:25want to and the council agrees with it,

48:26but it's it's optional.

48:30>> Thank you. Another questions. Council

48:32member Kitzer and then Council President

48:34Stewart,

48:35>> I did read through the um the matrix uh

48:38of of the planning commission's

48:40discussion, but I am curious if you

48:41could just give us a little bit more of

48:44the background on um uh on the the

48:48interest in in being able to remove this

48:50distinction. Um I I I'll say I I can

48:54understand this issue since I think it

48:56does come up on our commissions. I think

48:57when I was on planning commission, there

48:59was uh maybe a member that that did not

49:02follow these this rule. So, um so I can

49:06see how making sure you have regularly

49:08attending members is very important, but

49:10I'm just curious um in particular around

49:12the like um the absent the excuse

49:15language.

49:18>> I think part part of what it was is that

49:19the plan commission wanted to align

49:21their rules with how they were actually

49:23operating. And the way they're actually

49:25operating is that almost every absence

49:27was excused. Um, and it also is the case

49:31that attendance records are pretty good

49:33and that most commissioners will notify

49:35staff and the planning commission chair

49:36if they're going to be absent. So

49:37attendance hasn't been a a concerning

49:40issue. And since it hasn't been a

49:41concerning issue, they also haven't been

49:43um regularly taking votes on excused

49:45versus unexcused absences because most

49:47most of them have been they've all been

49:50sort of excused by by lack of objection

49:52to to having that absence excused. And

49:55so in in practice, they weren't really

49:57distinguishing between excused and

49:59unexcused and they wanted the rules to

50:01uh reflect how they were operating.

50:05>> Thank you. And I I'll just note it looks

50:07like there was a discussion about events

50:10and about the ability for the planning

50:13commissioners to talk with council. I

50:16don't know if we need a deep dive on

50:17this since we're not actually going to

50:19have um a a decision related to this. Um

50:24but uh but I'd just say I I hope that we

50:29can abide by OPMA but that we don't um

50:32discourage the planning commission from

50:34engaging with council. I I think having

50:36good relationships with our planning

50:38commission, hearing their perspectives

50:40and being able to understand their

50:42decisions, especially since they do such

50:43deep dive work that then comes to

50:45council. I value that as a council

50:48member. Um so help good to get the

50:50clarification. Um, but I I just hope the

50:52outcome of that discussion is not that

50:54we would have less communication between

50:56council and the planning commission.

50:59>> Council President Stewart.

51:01>> Yeah, thank you. And I appreciate um all

51:03of the comments from my colleagues and

51:06uh for time if the chair were to move us

51:08along and say we would have to bring

51:09this back at another touch. Um I think

51:12that it would be helpful to actually see

51:14the distinction between um what is the

51:16the base recommendations that are going

51:18to be made and adapted um through the

51:21clerk's work for all the boards and

51:23commissions and then kind of what were

51:24the the key decisions that the uh

51:27commission did make for themselves. I

51:29think we received a uh recommendation

51:32that was unanimously adopted and I do

51:34want to respect that. Um, and I also

51:38want to just um uh take our time and

51:42make sure that we are

51:45cognizant of our council's interest in

51:48making service accessible too and and to

51:50have that check on that. Um, my question

51:52is actually for the clerk. Thank you so

51:56much. I know um a a subcommittee

51:58subworking group of us on the council

52:00worked with you last year on our most

52:02recent updates um or earlier this year

52:05to the council rules of procedure and I

52:07see some of the through line in that

52:09conversation coming through. I'm

52:10wondering if you could speak um as as it

52:14you spoke about how our boards and

52:15commissions um had really disperate

52:18rules of procedure, but I'm also

52:19wondering if you could talk um to name a

52:22couple of the pain points uh that have

52:24been coming up in those various

52:25commission rules of procedure um and and

52:29um how the the package that we won't

52:32necessarily see because we only have

52:33jurisdiction over this one. um but how

52:36those experiences for commissioners are

52:38going to be improved as a result of this

52:40work.

52:44>> I would say not only for the

52:45commissioners but for the public. So we

52:47would have consistent public comment

52:48rules which would be important is um

52:51then we would also like all the boards

52:54and commissions um rules of procedure

52:56were developed at different times so

52:58they contain completely different um

53:00information. we have had laws change and

53:02things like that and records, things

53:04like that are very important to the city

53:06to be able to abide by state law. So, it

53:09would just have a more consistent um

53:12application and if sometimes boards or

53:14commission members um want to move over

53:16to a different board or commission and

53:18then they would all have very consistent

53:20rules to follow. So, I think it would

53:21help not only the city but also the

53:23public and the boards and commission

53:25members themselves.

53:27>> Thank you so much. and the public

53:28participation section of of this draft.

53:31Is this similar to what would be seen in

53:33the other commissions as well?

53:35>> Yes, it would be.

53:36>> Thank you.

53:37>> Thank you. I'm going to ask council

53:39members, are there other questions that

53:40they would like to follow up with staff

53:42because we are short on time? Um and

53:44then could we potentially see this in

53:46November?

53:48>> So, uh our our request would be I'm not

53:51sure what additional information is

53:53being requested. So kind of the three

53:55options would be adopt as is with the

53:57planning commission edits, adopt the

53:59standard without some of the PC edits

54:01included or three if there are

54:04additional items that are being

54:05requested for edits that would come back

54:07later. I'm not I'd have to check the

54:09council schedule to see when we could

54:10bring this back. Okay. Thank you. Um are

54:12there are there other questions from

54:15council? I'm seeing one head nod and no

54:18head nods. Okay. I'm going to suggest uh

54:21Council Member Parcy if you could email

54:23and meet with Coun um staff to get your

54:26questions answered and then um thumbs

54:29for putting this on new business that

54:31could be pulled if any council member

54:33wants to speak to it or address any

54:36issues. So consent,

54:40sorry, I meant consent.

54:43uh thumbs for putting this on consent

54:45and then you can pull it off of consent

54:47if you have concerns that you would like

54:48to have addressed. Okay, thank you. We

54:52will see this on consent. Um expect some

54:55follow-up questions. Sounds great.

54:57>> Thank you.

54:58>> Thank you. Moving along to amending RMC

55:01development impact fees. Going to

55:04shorten that title.

55:05>> Yep. Here we go.

55:10Uh good afternoon again. Um Glenn Coyle,

55:12a senior planner with the long-range

55:14plan team, is here to uh brief council

55:16members on the proposed transportation

55:18impact fee changes in 2027 to account

55:21for inflation, as well as changes to the

55:24Lake Washington School District's fee

55:25schedule. Uh, as a reminder, council

55:28reviewed and discussed the fire impact

55:30fees on um September 15th at PSHS

55:33committee of the whole and the park

55:35impact fees at the 9:22 um park and

55:38environmental sustainability committee

55:39of meeting of the whole. Um, and we're

55:42proposing that this would come forward

55:44as one full package. Um, but the two

55:47items we're discussing today are the uh

55:50uh transportation and Lake Washington

55:52School District fee schedule. Um, please

55:54note that Brian Buck, a representative

55:56from the Lake Washington School

55:58District, is also um online with us um

56:00to answer any questions about the school

56:02impact fees. So, with that, I'll turn it

56:05over to Glenn to provide some more quick

56:07context.

56:09>> Thank you. Uh good afternoon, council

56:12members. Um I am Glenn Coyle, senior

56:15planner. So impact fees are one-time

56:18charges collected by the city uh from

56:20new commercial and residential

56:22developments to fund fire, park, school,

56:24and transportation facilities needed to

56:27accommodate growth. Impact fees are

56:29authorized in RMC 310. Uh indexing or

56:33updating Redmond's impact fees annually

56:36allows the rates to keep a pace with

56:38inflation to maintain the purchasing

56:40power of these impact fees and to help

56:43provide the capital facilities necessary

56:45to serve growth in Redmond. RMC 310

56:48establishes the indexes and procedures

56:51that the city council may apply annually

56:53to index or update Redmond's impact

56:55fees. The city collects school impact

56:59fees on behalf of the Lake Washington

57:01School District by interlocal agreement.

57:04School impact fees calculated by the

57:06district uh reflect the proportionate

57:08share of the cost of school related

57:10system improvements that are reasonably

57:12related to new development. Um and as

57:15Sephrey noted, we are here today to

57:17discuss two amendments to RMC 310. The

57:20first is to index the transportation fee

57:23schedule for inflation which is an

57:25annual process

57:27for 2027. Uh transportation impact fees

57:30will increase 0.41%

57:34which is calculated as a three-year

57:36average of construction cost indices for

57:39the Lake Washington School District. We

57:42are requesting an amendment to the

57:43interlocal agreement from 2006. Um and

57:47we will also adopt a new school impact

57:49fee schedule to be updated by annually

57:52which is every two years instead of

57:54annually.

57:55The driver of this uh is the school

57:58district's switching to using bedroom

58:00counts to calculate impact fees. The

58:03amended interlocal agreement

58:04acknowledges these changes while also

58:07affirming a new process that the city

58:09will not calculate bedroom counts on

58:12behalf of the district but rather will

58:14require developments developers to

58:17submit an affidavit on bedroom counts to

58:19the city to assess fees.

58:22Uh the agreement also increases the

58:24city's admin fee to align with current

58:26costs as well as well as I'm going to

58:30indemnify in the city against the

58:32accuracy of the affidavits.

58:34Um I would also just like to to renote

58:37that this is two components of four

58:39total updates to RMC 310. Both parks and

58:42fire are proposing updates to their fee

58:45schedules related to updated capital

58:47facilities plans, also known as

58:48functional plans, and are being reviewed

58:51by council in separate processes.

58:54We are coordinating with them so that

58:56council can adopt one omnibus ordinance

58:59in November so that all the fees can go

59:01into effect consistently on January 1st

59:05as is the usual standard. And this is

59:07also why the parks and fire impact fee

59:10schedules are not being indexed for

59:11inflation this year. Um and also note

59:14that um we'd like to come back uh to

59:17committee the whole November 2nd to

59:19review the ordinance. Um and with that I

59:21turn it back to the chair.

59:23>> Thank you. Council questions.

59:27Council member Brocka.

59:32>> Thank you. Um, so I understand that the

59:35school district changed uh to using

59:37bedroom counts for calculating their

59:39impact fees. Uh, and it says that we

59:41have trouble actually verifying this

59:44with developers. I'm just wondering if

59:46you can help me understand why uh in

59:48terms of permitting. We we just don't

59:51get that number um directly as part of

59:54the permit that we are verifying.

59:57>> I I wouldn't necessarily say that

59:59there's a difficulty. It's a new

1:00:01process. the city doesn't necessarily

1:00:03track that and that would um just add a

1:00:05whole new process for the city that

1:00:07normally hasn't been done. Uh this is a

1:00:09pass through. Um so I would defer um to

1:00:12to our school district uh partners and

1:00:15colleagues to maybe um help kind of

1:00:17answer some of that.

1:00:21>> Yeah. Hi, this is Brian Buck with the

1:00:23Lake Washington School District. Yeah,

1:00:25currently we do not have access

1:00:29um uh to bedroom counts. It is something

1:00:33that we will continue to look at. Uh as

1:00:37such, our student generation data for

1:00:39units with two bedrooms or less and one

1:00:42bedroom or less uh is not available. Uh

1:00:47so the district's assuming a $0 fee for

1:00:50these smaller dwelling units. As permit

1:00:53data evolves, we'll continue to revisit

1:00:57um to determine whether it can be

1:00:59accurately

1:01:01um accessed and and student generation

1:01:04rates determined for the smaller units.

1:01:07In the meantime, the district's using a

1:01:10blended student generation rate based on

1:01:13all of the units in each dwelling

1:01:15category.

1:01:19>> Thank you. Um, council member Kurtzer,

1:01:23>> I guess just following up on that, how

1:01:25if if there's a a blended calculation,

1:01:27which I may not be understanding that,

1:01:29um, how it is that we ended up with only

1:01:32a rate above zero in one category. Um,

1:01:36when also there is another category with

1:01:38threebedroom, but also I wouldn't see

1:01:40some in the twobedroom

1:01:43categories.

1:01:47>> Again, I'll defer that to the school

1:01:48district. Yeah, this is Brian Buck again

1:01:51with Lake Washington School District.

1:01:53So, there are several factors that

1:01:55contribute

1:01:57um to um the fees for um both single

1:02:04family uh single family rates and then

1:02:08the apartment/condo

1:02:10rate and the new middle housing rate.

1:02:14Each has a smaller bedroom count uh

1:02:18piece. So when we calculate our our

1:02:22fees, we um

1:02:26we look at student generation rates and

1:02:28then we we run them through our

1:02:30calculation.

1:02:32And so I would say that

1:02:36sorry I would say that um the updated

1:02:40enrollment plan um has a decline each

1:02:44year through 2031. It averages about 1.6

1:02:4867%.

1:02:50In addition, uh so we're only eligible

1:02:53to collect at the high school level. And

1:02:56in addition, we've we removed the high

1:02:58school land costs from the calculation

1:03:01because they were not in play during

1:03:04this um capital facilities plan.

1:03:07uh student generation rates did increase

1:03:11for single family u but they decrease

1:03:14for apartments and condos and um so

1:03:18that's the result of why there's no fee

1:03:20for apartments condos or the new middle

1:03:24housing rate but just only for the

1:03:26single family.

1:03:27>> Thank you for that explanation.

1:03:29>> Thank you. Just noting that we have four

1:03:31minutes left in this meeting and we are

1:03:33seeing this back on November 2nd. Would

1:03:36it be appropriate if council members I

1:03:38know there I'm feeling there's a lot

1:03:39more questions around the table if we

1:03:42could email you our questions and get

1:03:44that on for that November 2nd meeting.

1:03:49Um, yes. I think we just request a

1:03:52deadline so that staff can prepare some

1:03:54responses from that since we're hoping

1:03:56that's the final touch before bringing

1:03:57it on consent order to get the adoption

1:04:00date um by January 1.

1:04:02>> And what um what deadline would you like

1:04:04us to send questions?

1:04:05>> If we have the two weeks, let's say by

1:04:08the end of the 16th, would that work and

1:04:10Brian? Okay. All right, council members,

1:04:13please send your questions uh to staff

1:04:16by end of day on the 16th on this item.

1:04:19>> Um I have a feeling you'll be getting

1:04:20several.

1:04:21>> Great. All right, thanks everyone and

1:04:24apologies for keep trying to keep us on

1:04:26track here. Um next up is the status

1:04:28update on downtown adaptive signal

1:04:30control project.

1:04:47Good evening, council members. Back

1:04:49again, Chris Stinger, acting director of

1:04:51public works. Joining me tonight is to

1:04:54manager Paul Cho and senior engineer

1:04:58Hidemi Su. So, um, I'm going to hand it

1:05:01off to those. But first, tonight's

1:05:03presentation is primarily anformational

1:05:06update on the adaptive signals project

1:05:09and, uh, give you a little preview of

1:05:11what's coming up. But without further

1:05:13ado, I'm going to hand it over to Paul.

1:05:16Good afternoon. I'm Paul Cho. I'm also

1:05:18the city traffic engineer. Um, but we

1:05:21are here to provide a brief summary of

1:05:23the downtown adaptive signal project and

1:05:25to see if you have additional questions

1:05:28to cover in the staff report. Adaptive

1:05:31project information was last brought

1:05:33before council in July of 2024 before

1:05:36the project before the project actually

1:05:38started. Uh, traditional preset timing

1:05:42based on historical data can't keep up

1:05:44with today's fluctuating traffic.

1:05:46Adaptive monitors real time traffic data

1:05:50to make program adjustments as needed.

1:05:53Unpredictable patterns are driven by

1:05:55light rail, hybrid work delivery

1:05:58activities and weather.

1:06:01So adaptive technology was installed

1:06:04along Redmond Way from 160th on the west

1:06:06side and then East Lake Samish Parkway

1:06:09on the east side. In conjunction,

1:06:12multimodal detection was a separate

1:06:14technology that was implemented for

1:06:16consistent bicycle detection, continuous

1:06:19traffic counts, and future features like

1:06:22pedestrian all red extension.

1:06:25After field installation, the project

1:06:27completed a before and after study to

1:06:29evaluate performance. Hidemi is going to

1:06:32walk through these results in more

1:06:34detail.

1:06:39>> Thank you. Uh my name is Hidemi Suru.

1:06:41I'm senior engineer with the traffic

1:06:43safety division, a public works

1:06:44department. Um so I will briefly go over

1:06:46the results of the before and after

1:06:48study. The study showed that the

1:06:50adaptive student signal system is

1:06:52actively adjusting throughout the day,

1:06:53especially during midday and

1:06:55transitional periods leading up to the

1:06:56afternoon rush hour. Um corridor

1:06:59progression and travel times are

1:07:00maintained or improved. the large I'm

1:07:03sorry. In order to optimize corridor

1:07:04progression, there may be some

1:07:06trade-offs at the intersection level,

1:07:07but overall um corridor progression has

1:07:10improved. Um the study also showed that

1:07:13transit performance improved. The

1:07:15largest improvements occurred during the

1:07:16weekday PM period where average delay

1:07:19decreased by approximately 7 seconds per

1:07:21trip for the eastbound direction and

1:07:23nearly 3 seconds per trip for the

1:07:25westbound direction.

1:07:27CO2 emission savings were also

1:07:29calculated based on travel time

1:07:31reductions. Um, planning level estimates

1:07:33showed a total reduction of

1:07:35approximately 2.5 metric tons of

1:07:37emission savings uh per average weekday,

1:07:40which is the environmental equivalent of

1:07:42taking an average vehicle off the road

1:07:44for half a year. The last benefit we

1:07:47would like to highlight is the savings

1:07:49in staff time by reducing the need for

1:07:51manual signal retiming. Sandal timing is

1:07:54complex, labor intensive, and requires

1:07:57hours of field observations. Corridors

1:07:59with conflicting traffic on side street

1:08:02side streets such as Redmond Way could

1:08:03take 3 to six months to manually

1:08:05optimize signal timing. And even then,

1:08:07it would be based on traffic counts

1:08:09taken from a sample day a year ago.

1:08:12Instead, moving forward, staff can focus

1:08:14on fine-tuning the adaptive system by

1:08:16adjusting how the system prioritizes the

1:08:19directions of movements, how fast the

1:08:21system changes to traffic conditions,

1:08:23and what events triggers the changes.

1:08:26Thank you.

1:08:30So again, uh, with the staff report, um,

1:08:34we're wanting to see if you have

1:08:36additional questions that we can

1:08:38address, uh, before we actually present

1:08:40it at a council meeting.

1:08:42>> Thank you. Uh, council members, if you

1:08:45wouldn't mind emailing your additional

1:08:47questions to Director Stinger, um, so we

1:08:50can go ahead and move on to the next

1:08:53item. Um, but we do look forward to

1:08:56hearing this staff report on the 20th. I

1:08:58know we have we're going to probably

1:08:59have a lot of questions for you to be

1:09:00included in that because this is a

1:09:02project that we've all been very excited

1:09:03about and we've heard a lot of community

1:09:05feedback on as well. So

1:09:07>> great. We we're we're looking for the

1:09:08opportunity to uh provide more

1:09:10information um to council and community.

1:09:13>> Thank you. And when would you like us to

1:09:15have those questions to you?

1:09:17>> End of this week.

1:09:18>> Yes, if possible. Uh I think we we have

1:09:20to get everything um kind of finalized.

1:09:22Make sure we get all the packet

1:09:24together.

1:09:25>> Great. End of the week. Please get your

1:09:27questions to Director Stanger to pass on

1:09:29to the team. Thank you. Uh last up is

1:09:33our CIP updates for Q3.

1:09:36>> And while they make the journey up here,

1:09:39uh still sitting here Chris Stinger and

1:09:41coming to the table is principal planner

1:09:43Tess Wilkinson and capital manager Steve

1:09:47Gibbs. So this is a regular opportunity

1:09:50to provide council with a highle look at

1:09:52where we're at on active uh capital

1:09:54projects.

1:09:56uh including overall progress on any

1:09:58items that may be helpful for the

1:10:00committee to be aware of. And we're not

1:10:01going to go through every project in

1:10:04detail, but the intent is to give you an

1:10:06overview of the program and then allow

1:10:08us to focus on specific projects where

1:10:11you have questions uh or would like

1:10:12additional information. So with that,

1:10:14I'll turn it over to Tess.

1:10:18>> Thank you, Chris. Thank you, council,

1:10:19for having us once again. Tess

1:10:21Wilkinson. I am the capital improvements

1:10:24program planner in public works. Um so

1:10:27we're going to go through this fairly

1:10:28quickly tonight because uh this is this

1:10:31was a pretty packed agenda. Um looking

1:10:34at our slides, we have 35 active

1:10:36projects within uh the Q3. We added one

1:10:40new project. It was the 150th Avenue

1:10:43improvements. That project has been

1:10:45initiated uh fairly recently. We

1:10:48currently stand at 60% completion rate.

1:10:51I am hoping to finish the year somewhere

1:10:54between 70 and 80%. If we move on to the

1:10:57next slide, you can see which projects

1:11:00have been completed there on your left

1:11:02hand side. What we are hoping to

1:11:04complete still this year and the three

1:11:07that were originally targeted for

1:11:09completion this year and have needed to

1:11:11slide for one reason or another into

1:11:132027. Our most most recent project that

1:11:17will not make this year's deadline is

1:11:19the Willows Road water mane extension.

1:11:22Um the extensive uh underground utility

1:11:24work just went longer than we

1:11:27anticipated and we are moving into the

1:11:29colder fall and winter season and it is

1:11:32not uh ideal for paving and at least

1:11:36paving is going to stick around the way

1:11:38we would like it to.

1:11:41So here is um a quick slide on the

1:11:43projects that we did complete in uh Q3

1:11:45of 2026. That is the 154th paving and

1:11:49the EV charging phase two. Uh the EV

1:11:53charging project is going to be our

1:11:55featured project for um the general

1:11:58government slide. So we'll be giving you

1:12:00some more information on that one.

1:12:03Moving into our uh programs and programs

1:12:06report. Uh speaking of general

1:12:08government, uh we have completed nearly

1:12:11every active project in this portfolio.

1:12:14So yay for us. Uh the two ongoing ones

1:12:18are the MOC campus redevelopment. This

1:12:20is uh a project I'm sure you're all very

1:12:22aware of and will be continuing for

1:12:24several years to come and a new project

1:12:27started this year, the ADA improvements

1:12:29in the parks restroom, parks restrooms.

1:12:32Um looking forward looking ahead into

1:12:342027.

1:12:36Um we will begin another ADA facilities

1:12:40project and uh based on the outcome of

1:12:43the fire station 11 feasibility report

1:12:46we will probably begin uh initiating the

1:12:49design on that project as well.

1:12:52So as mentioned here is our featured

1:12:54project the EV charging stations phase

1:12:56two.

1:12:58Hello again, council. Steve Gibbs with

1:13:00Capital Projects. Um EV charging phase 2

1:13:04added um 15 dualport chargers into our

1:13:08city parking garage. So now that's able

1:13:10to take on 30 new um vehicles to

1:13:14electric vehicles to charge. The project

1:13:16is is basically physically complete. Um

1:13:20we are um we ordered the the chargers

1:13:24ourselves and so we're responsible for

1:13:26the warranty and when we set up the

1:13:29chargers, two of them are not

1:13:31cooperating and so we're currently doing

1:13:33a warranty repair on those. Um if if

1:13:37you've been in the garage lately, you'll

1:13:38notice that all those stalls are still u

1:13:41empty and so folks are still obeying the

1:13:44signs. Um we we are looking for the

1:13:47mayor's office to come up with a policy

1:13:49uh for um um city workers commuting with

1:13:55electric vehicles be able to use those

1:13:57uh chargers as well. And so you should

1:13:59see those stalls be occupied uh fairly

1:14:01soon. Um

1:14:04and then just a a note the the when we

1:14:07purchased those chargers um it was about

1:14:1045,000 for those uh 15 dual port

1:14:14chargers. So the prices have come down

1:14:16significantly since when we did the

1:14:18first phase uh back during CO. So happy

1:14:21to answer any questions on that one.

1:14:27Okay.

1:14:30>> All right. Moving right on along, this

1:14:32is our parks portfolio.

1:14:35Um we are still working on the reservoir

1:14:38park sports court replacement. That will

1:14:40be our featured project tonight to give

1:14:42you an update on um what is the delay on

1:14:44those. The uh am the Amly RCC landscape

1:14:49repairs, I believe in my um handouts to

1:14:53you that is still marked as being in

1:14:55design. It has moved on into uh

1:14:57construction and is one of our projects

1:14:59we hope to complete by the end of this

1:15:01year.

1:15:03So, looking ahead again into 2027,

1:15:06um we will begin just one new parks

1:15:08project and that is the Idlewood Park

1:15:10restrooms and concession building

1:15:12rebuild.

1:15:14So, moving on, our featured project,

1:15:16Reservoir Park. Again, over to Steve.

1:15:19>> Yeah, one one of my favorite projects.

1:15:21Um this one has been around a while. Um,

1:15:24if you recall, we missed the window to

1:15:27kind of complete that late last summer.

1:15:29Uh, so we had to wait this year. Um, I'm

1:15:32happy to report that we were complete as

1:15:36of yesterday.

1:15:38And so, um, I think what the only thing

1:15:41preventing us from opening up is we're

1:15:42getting a protective pad around the

1:15:44basketball post. I think that should be

1:15:46in tomorrow. So, maybe Friday, get your

1:15:49rackets ready. Um,

1:15:52I I know this was a little painful. Um,

1:15:54I think I I came in January and

1:15:56explained some of the difficulties and

1:15:58and the delays. I think we're still

1:15:59holding true to that extra 300,000 that

1:16:02we asked back then. We will be coming

1:16:05back. I'm I'm hoping to get it in by the

1:16:07end of this year as far as accepting the

1:16:08contract. May may squeeze into January,

1:16:10but um um everything kind of came out as

1:16:14anticipated from January, not from last

1:16:16year, but happy to answer any questions

1:16:19on that one.

1:16:25All right. Um on to to traffic

1:16:28operations here. As noted uh earlier, we

1:16:31did complete the paving on the 154th.

1:16:33Our uh ADA improvements curb rampant

1:16:36project is under construction. We expect

1:16:38to complete that this month. And our uh

1:16:4124th Street paving and utilities project

1:16:44will continue through the winter. We

1:16:46have completed all of our water main

1:16:49work are moving on to sewer now and we

1:16:52anticipate getting our paving completed

1:16:54in the summer. So, this project is on

1:16:57schedule. Uh looking ahead into 2027,

1:17:02um our traffic operations team will be

1:17:05uh coordinating with the city of Seamish

1:17:07and we will begin uh design work on our

1:17:10East Lake Seamish Parkway and 187th

1:17:12intersection improvements.

1:17:14um the their that excellent team that

1:17:17you just heard from will also be working

1:17:19on uh the downtown adaptive signals um

1:17:22an expansion of that as well as an

1:17:25active transportation safety program.

1:17:28This program has received um a safe

1:17:30streets for all grant and they will be

1:17:33putting in some um demonstration uh

1:17:37pedestrian and traffic safety control

1:17:38devices to do a study to see what is

1:17:41most effective so that this program can

1:17:43potentially move forward in the future

1:17:45with more funding and more locations

1:17:47throughout the city.

1:17:50Our featured project in this portfolio

1:17:53is the ADA uh transportation curb ramps

1:17:56project.

1:17:58Okay, on this one, um, we had three

1:18:00different sites. We had the school site,

1:18:03Horseman, Redmond High on 104th, a

1:18:05couple ramps on 111th, uh, just behind

1:18:08the school, and then again on 140th

1:18:11between about 69th and Northeast 80th.

1:18:14U, I'm sure you you're aware that we had

1:18:16some complaints on the school work. Uh,

1:18:19Council Member Sony, um, you asked about

1:18:21the schedule and if we could make it,

1:18:22and apparently we couldn't. Um I would

1:18:25say that the quality of the work is

1:18:26good. Uh the contractor performance was

1:18:30a little uh less than desirable. I think

1:18:32we just they got go going way too late

1:18:35and then kind of went out and uh took

1:18:38out all the ramps at once. That was not

1:18:40the plan. Um and so we basically

1:18:43continuous communication with the school

1:18:45as we worked through that. So um

1:18:48basically a couple of very trying weeks

1:18:50um on on that construction. Um the work

1:18:53looks good. We're out of the school

1:18:55zone. There's only a couple some

1:18:57striping items and a and a I think a

1:18:59median island left. Uh we're going to uh

1:19:02do that in the next couple weeks. The

1:19:04rest of the project should be done in

1:19:06probably by the end of the month uh into

1:19:08a little bit into next month. And and so

1:19:10um we may have to come back and do um

1:19:12some striping work next year. Just

1:19:14depends on how the weather cooperates,

1:19:16but the bulk of the work uh paving ADA

1:19:18ramp should be completed by the end of

1:19:20the year. Um,

1:19:23I think that's all I want to say on that

1:19:25one. [laughter]

1:19:26>> Council member Stewart.

1:19:28>> Yeah, thank you so much. Um, and

1:19:29appreciate the context uh and additional

1:19:31information there on this program

1:19:33overall, the ADA improvements for the

1:19:35curb ramps. Um, I I imagine we're going

1:19:38to see this program uh come back in the

1:19:40next bianium. And one of the things that

1:19:42I um I find difficult about uh since we

1:19:45transitioned kind of programs uh to to

1:19:49being kind of structured in this way is

1:19:51it's difficult for me um you said the

1:19:54three sites just now aloud but I can't

1:19:56see them from from this project sheet or

1:19:59from the information here. So even if

1:20:01they were just like little dots or

1:20:02something like that that were to

1:20:03indicate. The other reason I think that

1:20:05the storytelling behind how much it says

1:20:09here that we uh are spending $2.8

1:20:11million on these ADA improvements. We

1:20:14actually have a council approved master

1:20:15plan for how to uh transition all of

1:20:19these curve ramps over time. And um we

1:20:22we I think that we should pay a little

1:20:23bit more attention as a as a as a city

1:20:26to like are we on track with that? Uh, I

1:20:28recently looked it up so I kind of know

1:20:30the answer to that question, but um, it

1:20:32would be helpful to me as a council

1:20:34member to be able to see a little bit

1:20:36more of the story there and also to be

1:20:38able to have the conversations with my

1:20:39colleagues when it comes to

1:20:40infrastructure funding. Do we want to

1:20:42keep funding this at $2.8 million a

1:20:44bianium or or do we want to go bigger?

1:20:46Um, and having a a little bit more data

1:20:49to show just that 2.8 million is getting

1:20:52us three project sites when we have a

1:20:54lot more to go. So, um, just, uh, a

1:20:57little bit of more storytelling is

1:20:58something I'm interested in in the

1:21:00future. Thank you.

1:21:03>> Those are really good comments and good

1:21:04questions. And, um, helping staff

1:21:07develop and run programs is on one of my

1:21:10core to-do tasks in the upcoming year.

1:21:14This program, um, I know that right now,

1:21:16this project right now is funded at the

1:21:182.8 million. It actually receives

1:21:21bianial funding of only 600,000.

1:21:24So, having a quick uh off-the- cuff

1:21:26conversation with our ToS lead on this

1:21:29program, we are looking to potentially

1:21:31push the start of this out until 2029

1:21:36and take the money from this bianium

1:21:38adding it to the next bianium so that we

1:21:40have 1.2 million and we're able to

1:21:42deliver a lot more. 600,000 does not get

1:21:45us a lot of curb ramps especially when

1:21:47you consider that right now we have an

1:21:49active project which is the overlink

1:21:51accessibilities program which is funded

1:21:53at 1.5 million from Microsoft and that

1:21:56gets us 20 curb ramps as well as

1:21:58sidewalks and that is over double what

1:22:01the current benium funding on this

1:22:03program is. uh we have uh modified our

1:22:07project information sheets creating

1:22:10program information sheets and the

1:22:13intent behind that is to be able to show

1:22:16program progress in upcoming bianiums.

1:22:18This is a work in progress. I am still

1:22:21developing it with staff and trying to

1:22:23figure out the best way to move forward

1:22:24because I hear you on okay what are we

1:22:27getting? What have you done? What is the

1:22:29progress being made? And that is

1:22:30something that I am very passionate

1:22:32about being able to bring to you because

1:22:34if you we want to continue to have

1:22:37programs like this and like potential

1:22:39future programs such as utility pipe

1:22:42replacement programs, we need to be able

1:22:44to show that we are providing and

1:22:47delivering what you expect us to.

1:22:50>> Yeah. I don't I don't think that was a a

1:22:52comment about your delivery. I think

1:22:54it's about us wanting to fund so you can

1:22:56actually meet those.

1:22:57>> Yeah. I want to give you though the data

1:22:58and the confidence in giving us more

1:23:00funding because I will be back asking

1:23:02>> and we want to confidently give you more

1:23:04money.

1:23:05>> Please bring these alternatives for

1:23:06future study. Thank you.

1:23:07>> Absolutely.

1:23:10>> We'll do. Okay. So, moving on to our

1:23:12transportation planning program report.

1:23:15This is a pretty big and active program

1:23:17and we have a lot of uh potential

1:23:20project starts coming up in 2027. The

1:23:23three priority projects uh in

1:23:25transportation planning that will start

1:23:27next year are the Westlake Seamish

1:23:29roundabout and shared use path, the

1:23:32Westlake Seamish multimodal improvements

1:23:34phase 1 and the 156 buffered bike lanes.

1:23:38We would also probably be starting the

1:23:40161st cycle track has that project

1:23:42received um an active alternative

1:23:45transportation grant, something like

1:23:47that. Um I'm terrible on remembering the

1:23:49names of those. So as you can see this

1:23:51project these um pro programs and

1:23:54projects are progressing as expected.

1:23:57The bell red buffered bike lanes is

1:23:59there in yellow. We have completed

1:24:00schedule A of that work. Schedules B and

1:24:03C are um a little bit delayed. We are

1:24:06coordinating with Belleview and the

1:24:08delays are um mainly due to some uh

1:24:11materials

1:24:12>> signal head.

1:24:13>> Yeah. They they have a special signal

1:24:15head they want for that one.

1:24:17>> All right. So, our featured project is a

1:24:19twofer. This is the Northeast 36th

1:24:22Street Bike Facilities and the 148th

1:24:24Shared Use Path. Both of these projects

1:24:27are um 100% grant funded with the Move

1:24:30Ahead Washington grant. Um we will be

1:24:33doing design work concurrently together,

1:24:35but we will be constructing them

1:24:37separately.

1:24:39Yeah, just to add um the um these are to

1:24:43feed the 520 trail and then also get

1:24:46across the 36th Street Bridge to the

1:24:48other side. Um we've had a charter

1:24:51meeting on this. We've selected a

1:24:53consultant. Um and u um we're scheduling

1:24:57a design kickoff, so we're just getting

1:24:59going on this. Um more to come in our

1:25:03next update.

1:25:09All right, our utilities portfolio. Um,

1:25:12the top project on there we talked about

1:25:14earlier. Those that's the water tank

1:25:16repairs done in conjunction with the

1:25:18reservoir park sports court repairs. Um,

1:25:22this is a combined portfolio, as you may

1:25:25remember, with water, storm water, and

1:25:27wastewater utilities. Our featured

1:25:30project tonight is the 95th Street

1:25:32Bridge replacement. May sound weird to

1:25:34have a bridge in utilities, but this

1:25:35project is really driven by a

1:25:38requirement that the Department of Fish

1:25:40and Wildlife put on us from a project we

1:25:42did many years ago and is being funded

1:25:44primarily out of our storm water fund.

1:25:48>> Okay, I'll I'll try and be quick on this

1:25:50one. Um so the the 2010 work um we we

1:25:54needed to do some repairs on the bridge

1:25:56uh on some of the the piles uh

1:25:58supporting the bridge and as a condition

1:25:59of that fish and wildlife would um gave

1:26:03us approval but then they wanted the

1:26:05bridge removed with a more um a span

1:26:09that is more fitting for this stream and

1:26:12is better for the fish. And so we've

1:26:14been um this has been on our our books

1:26:18for a while. Um

1:26:21I think we came back we were here in 23

1:26:25uh June of 23 presented some options and

1:26:29at that time I think council was a

1:26:31little bit surprised by the options we

1:26:33were presenting and at that time we we

1:26:35were uh tasked with going back and doing

1:26:38some additional work. Since that time,

1:26:39we've uh done some critical area

1:26:41studies, uh some stream studies,

1:26:43hydraulic studies. Um looked at

1:26:47potential flooding. Um we did a traffic

1:26:49study. We contacted the emergency

1:26:51emergency responders on if there was any

1:26:54issues if this um bridge was only not a

1:26:57vehicular bridge, but just a bike ped

1:26:59bridge. And so we've completed all that

1:27:01work. Um we've we've kind of um

1:27:06evaluated three alternatives. One would

1:27:08be a vehicular bridge, bike ped bridge

1:27:10together. Uh the second one would be no

1:27:13bridge at all. And then the third one

1:27:15was just a bike ped bridge. I think

1:27:16staff is recommending a bike ped bridge.

1:27:19Um and we'd like to bring this probably

1:27:22to a study session early next year to

1:27:25let let council evaluate some of those

1:27:27options and and have a little more time

1:27:29to to talk about this. I don't think

1:27:31we're going to get all the questions

1:27:32you'd like to ask about on this one. Um

1:27:35but that's really our next steps. and

1:27:36then maybe a approach on outreach and

1:27:39how we would communicate this out. So

1:27:41that's that's what our commitment is

1:27:44study session early next year to discuss

1:27:46this.

1:27:47>> Yes. Thank you. Yes. Um definitely we'll

1:27:49see this back on a study session next

1:27:51year. And council members who don't have

1:27:54the history on this, I highly encourage

1:27:55you to reach out to staff to get that

1:27:57history. This has been going on for

1:27:58quite a long time. Um I I recalled when

1:28:01we were doing agenda setting how long

1:28:03this had been going on and there's a lot

1:28:05of details. So, please do reach out and

1:28:07and get some history on this project

1:28:09because there's a lot to dive in on.

1:28:13>> All right. Is that the end of our

1:28:16presentation?

1:28:18See?

1:28:20[sighs and gasps]

1:28:20>> Yes.

1:28:20>> All right. Thank you, Council President

1:28:23Stewart.

1:28:23>> Yeah. U this is the hot issue that I

1:28:25wanted to discuss and I appreciate that

1:28:27we're going to come back with a study

1:28:28session. My um big request given um the

1:28:31length of time that this project has

1:28:33been going on is um the granicus won't

1:28:36automatically pull for you the latest

1:28:38dates that council discussed this, but

1:28:40it will be very helpful actually for

1:28:42council members to go back and review

1:28:43the prior conversations that were had in

1:28:45this chambers about the project. So to

1:28:47please include those dates in the memo,

1:28:48that'd be very helpful. Thank you.

1:28:49>> June 6, 2023 was the last touch on this

1:28:52one.

1:28:52>> Thank you. All right. Thank you so much.

1:28:56That brings us to the end of our agenda.

1:28:58Thanks everyone for hanging in there and

1:29:00we are ajourned.