2026-10-12 - City Council

11:11Good evening. Everyone will

11:12call our. Call our meeting to

11:17order tonight. Our October 12th

11:21City Council meeting. We

11:22welcome those who are joining

11:23us in the audience, those who

11:25are joining us remotely. We

11:26welcome you as well. At this

11:28time, as with every meeting, we

11:29will, uh, start with a prayer.

11:31We ask that Doctor Carrie

11:33Cameron from the Upper Room

11:34Theological University will

11:35come forward. We ask that all

11:36will please stand for the

11:38prayer immediately following.

11:40Uh, our scouts will lead us in

11:41the Pledge of Allegiance. So

11:42we'll ask the scoutmaster and

11:43his team to come and and lead

11:45us in. That doctor Cameron.

11:47Thank you. Good evening

11:48everyone. Father, we thank you

11:50for this opportunity. We thank

11:52you for this privilege. We

11:53thank you that we're able to

11:54come here together on one

11:56accord in one place, with one

11:58mind and one agenda. We thank

12:00you that you've given us this

12:01opportunity. I ask that you

12:03please be so kind as to rest on

12:05each and every one of the City

12:07Council and our mayor as they

12:09lead our city, our city, to

12:11greatness. In Jesus name I

12:13pray. Amen. Amen.

12:16Alright, stouts are coming.

12:27Right on up guys.

12:38Thank you.

12:43Hi. Hi.

12:49Troop in pack 82. Babe, the

12:50North Carolina.

12:5282.

12:53Super.

12:54Please join me in the Pledge of

12:56Allegiance. Stop.

13:01I pledge allegiance.

13:03To the flag of the United

13:05States of America. And to the

13:07Republic for which it stands.

13:09One nation under God,

13:12indivisible, with liberty and

13:14justice.

13:15For all.

13:17Uh, thank you all so much. And

13:19and maybe, Scoutmaster, if you

13:21would tell us a little bit

13:22about about your troop.

13:24Oh, yeah. And. Yes, sir. Yes,

13:27sir.

13:29And the scouts, we wanted to we

13:30wanted to take a picture with

13:31you all before you dispersed.

13:33If y'all.

13:34Y'all can just come stand right

13:35in the front here.

13:36Right now. Yes. Back. Come

13:38back.

13:38Yeah, but but yeah. And then

13:39you could.

13:39You could.

13:40Tell us about it. Sorry about

13:42that.

13:42Yeah.

13:43Come on Council. All right. No

13:48tall ones in front of Derek.

13:51Uh.

14:01Yes.

14:03Everybody there? I get him,

14:05I'll say a few words out.

14:08Um, I'm gonna have you. Maybe

14:13I'll get a shorter. Okay. One

14:19and one. Holiday contract.

14:38Let's see here. Second. Three.

14:43Two. One.

14:50Thank you. All. First.

14:52Let's give our scouts a round

14:53of applause.

14:53If you can.

15:02Good evening, Mayor Colvin and

15:05Fayetteville. I'm Rob gates. I

15:07have the honor of being

15:07scoutmaster of of troop 82. And

15:11that the scouts that have come

15:12before you are the Boy Scouts

15:16and, uh, also the Webelos and

15:19Arrow of Light, what we might

15:21call Cub Scouts, but the really

15:23Webelos and Arrow of Light as

15:24they approach the time, they'll

15:26join Boy Scouts. A little

15:28background. Most of us, you

15:30know, still say Boy Scouts of

15:31America. We've evolved from

15:33that. And then to BSA and now

15:34we're actually called Scouting

15:37America. And, uh, so actually

15:40troop 82 on this is actually

15:42now a family troop. And what

15:44does that mean? It means we

15:45actually have girls and boys in

15:47the same Scouting America

15:49troop. Now, for years we've had

15:51girls and boys in Cub Scouts,

15:54and since I was a little kid,

15:55there were boys and girls in

15:58explorers. The more advanced

15:59levels of scouting. But now, if

16:01certain troop select to be a

16:03family troop, we've got both

16:05the girls and the and the boys

16:06in the same troop. Of course,

16:08those rules that follow the

16:09normal separation and and

16:11things you might imagine, but

16:12it's, uh, it it helps with

16:14resources because there's only

16:16so many adults. And for a troop

16:18committee for a certain troop,

16:19a family troop, you can have

16:21just one troop committee where

16:22if we had a, a troop, 82 boys

16:26troop, 82 girls, you'd have to

16:27have two separate, uh, adult

16:29troop committees. So we're

16:31evolving with the times, but

16:32keeping scouts going. I thank

16:34you for the invitation tonight.

16:35I would as a massive plug for

16:38scouting materials. Simple

16:39scouting. Look that up and you

16:42can and Google where you're

16:43trying to find scout resources

16:45near you. Uh, two doors down

16:47from my house near Pine Forest

16:48High School, we on Monday

16:49nights, we have Sea Scouts that

16:51meet. There's the honor campus

16:53Society, boy Scouts called

16:54order of the arrow that you get

16:55elected to from Scouting

16:57America. We've got Venture Crew

17:00for the more advanced level of

17:01Scouts and even explorers. So

17:04lots to do in the wonderful

17:06world of scouting. And I, I

17:07tried to spread the word to

17:08anyone that listen to me and

17:10get the good word out. And like

17:12I've often said, as an adult

17:14leader, I don't worry about the

17:16teenage boy or girl that is so

17:18busy with church youth groups

17:20and honor societies at school

17:22and athletics. I worry about

17:24the kid that would just love to

17:26be in scouting but hasn't found

17:28us yet and we have not found

17:29them yet. So help me spread the

17:31word. Scouting dot org and

17:33remember there's there Scouting

17:35America there, Sea Scouts, and

17:36all sorts of things to do in

17:38the world of scouting. And I

17:39thank you for your support.

17:41Thank you.

17:49Oh, Pastor Cameron, doctor Kim,

17:52you want to tell us a little

17:53bit about you? We all know you,

17:54but you want to tell us a

17:55little bit about yourself and

17:56your ministry.

17:57Yes, I do, thank you so much,

17:58mayor. Good evening. Mayor.

18:01City council members and

18:02citizens of forever, thank you

18:04for this opportunity. I am

18:06Doctor Cameron, Fayetteville

18:08Ethics Commission. I'm also the

18:10president of Upper Room

18:12Theological University, where I

18:13confer honorary doctoral

18:15degrees as well as academics. I

18:18am also the president of North

18:19Carolina Teen Alcohol

18:21Prevention Awareness, where we

18:23actually teach parents about

18:25underage drinking and the

18:27dangers of it. And I'm so proud

18:29now to introduce North Carolina

18:32Black Business Chamber of

18:34Commerce, LLC, which I am the

18:36president of. Thank you for

18:38this opportunity.

18:39Thank you.

18:44Thank you so much, Doctor

18:45Cameron, and thank you to, uh,

18:47the scout. Uh, pack 82 and BSA

18:52troop 82. We thank you. And the

18:53scoutmaster and the parents

18:55couldn't do it without the

18:55parents. So thank you so much

18:56for your contribution. Uh,

18:58also, we have to recognize one

19:00of our elected officials. I

19:01think his name is our

19:03representative Colvin. Good to

19:04see you. Tonight. Uh, sir.

19:06Also, um, at this time, we have

19:09some very special, uh,

19:11announcements to make you see,

19:13members of, um, the most

19:15historic, uh, neighborhoods

19:16here. We see, uh, Doctor Tamara

19:19brothers who will come forth

19:21and, uh, doctor brothers,

19:22Councilmember Hair and, uh,

19:24Jones, who also represent the

19:26Broad Hill Seabrook brothel

19:28area. Um, we'll we'll turn it

19:30over to you. And you make this

19:31special announcement.

19:33Thank you so much, Mayor

19:35Colvin. And thank you so much

19:36for allowing me to be before

19:37you this evening. It is a great

19:39pleasure to be before you. My

19:41name is Doctor Tamara Holmes.

19:42Brothers. I serve as the

19:44director for program outreach

19:45and engagement within the

19:46Department of Natural and

19:47Cultural Resources. I'm also a

19:49Fayetteville native. I am

19:51pleased to be here on behalf of

19:53the department.

19:54Come on now.

19:55And the State Historic

19:57Preservation Office to

19:58recognize the recent listing of

20:01the Broadway Historic District

20:02in the National Register of

20:04Historic Places. My involvement

20:07with this preservation effort

20:08began in 2010, when I first

20:11began researching and

20:13documenting brothels. History.

20:15In 2021, I partnered with the

20:18Seabrook Brothel Community

20:19Neighborhood Watch to advance

20:21this work through community

20:22engagement, collaboration, and

20:25advocacy, and Doctor Hair was a

20:27part of that initial um,

20:30education with with residents

20:32virtually. This listing is a

20:34significant milestone in

20:35preserving Fayetteville African

20:37American heritage. Brothel

20:39represents generations of

20:41African American home

20:42ownership, community pride,

20:45educational opportunity, and

20:47resilience in the face of

20:48segregation. This designation

20:51honors the the residents who

20:53shape this community, many of

20:54them who are here this evening

20:56and helps ensure their stories

20:58are recognized and shared for

21:00generations to come. Now, this

21:03survey involved the development

21:06of 1950s. The community was

21:08developed in 1950s. The

21:10designation covers

21:12approximately 533 properties

21:16within the neighborhood. Before

21:18I present to Mister to Mayor

21:21Colvin, with the National

21:22Register Listing Certificate, I

21:24want to extend my heartfelt

21:26thanks to the residents in

21:28greater, broader community for

21:30their commitment and

21:31perseverance. Special thanks to

21:34Cynthia Leakes, immediate past

21:35president of the Seabrook

21:37Broadway Community Neighborhood

21:38Watch again, Councilman, doctor

21:41DJ hair, a Broadway resident,

21:44councilman, doctor Antonio

21:46Jones, representing the

21:48district, as well as Malik

21:52Davis for representing his his

21:54district, as well. Chris Corley

21:56and Nelson Soriano of the City

21:59of Fayetteville Economic and

22:00Community Development

22:01Department. They were very

22:02instrumental in our application

22:04for the Certified Local

22:06Government Grant, which helped

22:08fund the consultants who did a

22:09lot of this, this research for

22:11this initiative. They include

22:12the Kramer Design Group, LLC

22:14and Logia Preservation LLC, as

22:17well as representative Mike

22:18Colvin. I also want to deeply

22:22thank my family.

22:25Every time I take the time.

22:30For their unwavering support

22:33through this journey, it was a

22:35long process, but I'm glad to

22:39see it come to fruition. This

22:42achievement reflects what is

22:44possible when community

22:46members, public officials,

22:48preservation professionals and

22:50partners work together towards

22:53a shared goal. And with that, I

22:56will read the letter written by

22:59Doctor Darren Waters, Deputy

23:00Secretary for the Office of

23:02Archives and History within the

23:04Department of Natural and

23:05Cultural Resources. And it

23:07reads. Dear Mayor Colvin, I am

23:09pleased to inform you that the

23:11Reference Historic District has

23:13been entered in the National

23:15Register of Historic Places. An

23:25official certificate of the

23:27listing is enclosed. You are

23:29most fortunate to be a steward

23:31of this historic research

23:33resource that justly deserves

23:35this honor. The National

23:37Register has been called a roll

23:39call of the tangible reminders

23:41of the history of the United

23:43States. It is, therefore a

23:45pleasure for the Office of

23:46Archives and History to

23:47participate in this program,

23:49and thereby make our nation

23:51aware of North Carolina's

23:52cultural heritage. In order

23:55that we may keep our records up

23:56to date, it would be helpful if

23:59you would notify us of any

24:01changes in ownership or of any

24:04major alterations to the

24:05property, and I will assist the

24:07community members with the

24:08overall stewardship plan, and

24:10that we appreciate your

24:12partnership in preserving the

24:13best of our past for posterity.

24:17Sincerely, doctor Waters.

24:35Thank you, mayor, for giving me

24:36the opportunity to do our thank

24:39you's. Um, our. This is a

24:42community effort. Many of our

24:46community members are here

24:48tonight, but I'm going to be

24:49asking them to come up and join

24:50us. But this was a community

24:53effort. And, um. Shoot, I think

24:56the house that I live in was

24:58built in 1958.

25:00So the first.

25:01Home resident is here tonight.

25:02Who is our first home.

25:06Well, well.

25:07So we're going to have you to

25:08come.

25:08Up.

25:09But just wanted to say thank

25:11you on behalf of the residents

25:15of Braddell and Seabrook. Thank

25:17you on behalf of the citizens

25:19of Fayetteville and all of my

25:21colleagues that stand before us

25:23today, we want to take a photo

25:24with you, and we're going to

25:26ask all of our community that's

25:29here. I see I won't try to name

25:31them all, but I see several

25:32several of them. Uh, I was only

25:35thinking two were coming, but

25:37that's okay. Everybody, please

25:39come up. This is a big, big

25:41deal for us. And what another,

25:44uh, feather in our cap with the

25:47merkerson Choice Initiative.

25:50Thanks, everyone. And all of

25:51you. All on the back row.

25:52Everyone, please come on up.

25:54Please.

25:55Thank you. You get to be close.

26:04Close to.

26:10Joe.

26:11For close to. Just a few

26:21members of, uh. I'm sure I got.

26:24I gotta get between the heads.

26:38There's something about us. Are

27:02you going to talk about me?

27:06Don't worry about. Come on,

27:09come on.

27:11Thank you again. Uh,

27:13Councilmember hair. Thank you,

27:14doctor brothers and, uh,

27:15Representative Colvin, you had

27:16a presentation for us.

27:17Yes, yes.

27:22Good evening everyone. It is

27:25with a distinct privilege that

27:29I stand before you to celebrate

27:32a career defined by unwavering

27:34commitment, leadership, and

27:35public service. As I bring you

27:37greetings from North Carolina

27:39House district 42, the North

27:41Carolina General Assembly, and

27:43on behalf of the governor, Josh

27:45Stein, I would like to speak to

27:47you briefly about the Old North

27:49State Award. The Old North

27:51State Award is the highest

27:53honor presented by the

27:55governor, designed to recognize

27:57individuals who demonstrate

27:58dedication and service beyond

28:00expectation excellence to the

28:02great state of North Carolina.

28:04It requires a minimum of 20

28:06years of service, of dedicated

28:07service to our state. And on

28:09this evening, on behalf of

28:11governor Josh Stein, it is my

28:13absolute honor to present the

28:15Old North State Award to Doctor

28:17Tamara Holmes. Brothers.

28:18Welcome to.

28:19The club, Tamara. Welcome to

28:22the club.

29:02Thank you. Thank you.

29:52Certainly. Again, uh, before we

29:54go into our other announcements

29:55again, how incredibly proud we

29:57are. Uh, Braudel, uh, my

29:59brother and I grew up in 1917,

30:01Stanbury Street, right over

30:02there. So we understand that

30:03the history and the heritage

30:04and doctor brothers, you saw

30:06her passion tonight to work on

30:08anything for over a decade,

30:10almost two decades. And

30:12tonight, uh, your work comes

30:14full circle. So I know you.

30:15Your family are proud.

30:16So thank you.

30:21All right. And, council, as we

30:23move to the other

30:25announcements, I'll go to

30:26council member Hondros.

30:28Thank you, Mr. Mayor, on behalf

30:30of my home church, Saint Helena

30:32Greek Orthodox Church, they

30:33want to thank the community for

30:36the support of their annual

30:37Greek festival, which happened

30:38in September. And they want to

30:39welcome everybody to join in

30:41our annual world's largest

30:43spaghetti dinner in November,

30:44which will be on the 18th. And

30:47secondly, congratulate Farrell,

30:49Terry Sanford, Booster Club on

30:51a successful inaugural Hall of

30:53Fame induction celebration and

30:56ceremony this past Saturday.

30:58Um, and on behalf of my fellow

31:00Bulldog Dean here, I think he

31:01and I are the only two bulldogs

31:03on, but there was ten, uh, Hall

31:05of Fame inductees this year out

31:07of 114 year history. So this is

31:10an event that we plan on doing

31:11every year. Um, I'll go through

31:12them real quick. George

31:14Armstrong lettered in two

31:15sports. Captain of the football

31:16team, uh, played both ways.

31:19Quarterback and defensive end.

31:20You had Charles Chip Beck,

31:21three time All-American in

31:23golf. Uh, Mister 59. He made it

31:26to the PGA and was 13 under

31:29par. October 11th, 1991. He

31:31scored a 59. Coach Gil Bowman,

31:34uh, who's also presented with

31:35the order of the Longleaf Pond

31:37and member of the NCAA AA uh,

31:4141 year educator. And he was,

31:44on the NCAA aa he was one of

31:47the 100 coaches, uh, to

31:49remember Wayne Byrd triathlete,

31:51football, baseball, basketball.

31:54Doctor Franklin Clark, 1965

31:57state champs and under

31:58legendary coach Dean Smith. Uh,

32:00he was the first of two players

32:02to go to three consecutive

32:04Final Fours, 196768 and 69. Uh,

32:09Doctor Richard Davis, uh, track

32:10and field. Um, she has 21

32:15All-American honors, and in

32:162003 won a world champion gold

32:18medal. Trey edge, triathlete,

32:20football, basketball. Baseball.

32:23Um, he was a FTS athlete of the

32:26year in 198586. And he's the

32:29current voice of the Bulldogs.

32:31Shea Ralph, um, in basketball

32:33in NCAA champion 2000 with

32:36UConn and is the current head

32:38coach of uh, Vanderbilt girls

32:40basketball. Bobby Spicer,

32:43triathlete, uh, tri sport

32:45athlete. Football. Basketball,

32:47baseball, and uh,

32:48affectionately known as Bobby

32:50Bulldog. And last but not

32:51least, uh, Coach William Bill

32:53Yeager, head coach, 1991

32:54through 2000. And in 2022, he

32:58had the honor of the football

33:00field being named after him. So

33:01now when you visit Terry

33:02Sanford, your, uh, for a

33:04football game, you're at Bill

33:05Yeager Field.

33:06Thank you, thank you.

33:07Congratulations.

33:11Congratulations to Terry

33:13Sanford and councilman. Hey,

33:14you just lost some of your

33:15street cred.

33:15Bro.

33:16So all right, all right, uh,

33:19Councilmember McMillan. Oh,

33:23okay. I thought you did all

33:24right. Mayor Pro Tem Thompson.

33:26Thank you. Mayor. Uh, I have an

33:29announcement that affects a lot

33:30of people in this country. And

33:32that's Alzheimer's. So I hope

33:35everybody is aware that this

33:37month is all timers awareness

33:38month. The Alzheimer's walk

33:40will be next Saturday. I

33:42believe the 24th of October at

33:469 a.m., right at Sacred

33:48Stadium. Uh, nearly 13 million

33:50families and friends provide

33:52care for people living with

33:53Alzheimer's and dementia in the

33:55United States. Two thirds of

33:57Americans living with

33:58Alzheimer's are women, one and

34:00three older American dies with

34:02all timers or other dementia

34:04diseases. Dementia is one of

34:06the costliest conditions in

34:08this society. We're not just

34:09talking about those that have

34:10all timers, but we're talking

34:11about caregivers and family

34:13members. Uh, you can always

34:15join the walk at ALS backslash

34:19walk, or you can just show

34:21yourself up at 9 a.m. on the

34:2424th at Sacred Stadium. And

34:26please be a part of something

34:27that everybody can lend a hand.

34:29And, cure. Thank you, Mr.

34:30Mayor.

34:31Thank you.

34:32And our former Assistant City

34:35Manager, Jay Reinstein, I think

34:36is the national spokesperson

34:38for the Alzheimer's. So

34:39certainly, uh, I'd like to

34:41support that.

34:41He will be there also. Man.

34:43All right. Uh, Councilmember

34:45McNair.

34:49Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good

34:51evening everyone.

34:53Good evening.

34:55I would like to officially

34:57recognize October as Breast

34:59Cancer Awareness Month. It's

35:02all great. Breast cancer will

35:04affect 1 in 8 women in her

35:08lifetime. It doesn't care how

35:10old you are, where you live, or

35:13what you do. But early

35:15detection does save lives. When

35:18it's caught early. The survival

35:21rate is over 99%. Yet to men

35:25and women in our community

35:26still miss their screening

35:28because they don't have access.

35:31Can't afford it, or simply

35:33don't know where to go. By

35:35recognizing this month, we do

35:38more than wear pink. We sent a

35:41message to our city stands with

35:44survivors, with those currently

35:46in treatment and with the

35:48families who love them and

35:51support them. We honor those

35:53we've lost by making sure the

35:56women have hurt. Women here

35:58today have a better chance. I

36:02respectfully ask the council to

36:03issue a proclamation for Breast

36:05Cancer Awareness Month to light

36:08the City Hall pink and to help

36:11share information about local

36:12screening resources. It's a

36:15small action that could save a

36:17life. Maybe someone in this

36:20room. Maybe our neighbor. Or

36:25maybe someone on this panel.

36:27Thank you.

36:28Thank you.

36:30Uh, Councilmember hair.

36:32Thank you. Mayor. I know

36:34everybody knows about this.

36:36What time is it? I'm glad you

36:38asked. It is voting time. Yes.

36:42Strove to the polls. March. I

36:45mean, um, October the 18th,

36:48from 2 to 5 p.m.. Smith

36:52Recreation Center. We're asking

36:54you to come join your local

36:56Divine Nine organizations as we

36:59stroll to the polls. Your vote

37:02matters. October the 18th, 2 to

37:095 p.m. at the Smith Recreation

37:13Center. Everybody, let's get

37:15out and vote. Thank you. Mayor.

37:16Thank you. Council.

37:17Thank you. All right. Council,

37:19we certainly, um, acknowledge

37:21all the important announcements

37:22have been made tonight.

37:23Certainly. Breast cancer Week,

37:25start to the poll. Congratulate

37:26again, members of Terry

37:28Sanford, um, for their

37:30recognition into the Hall of

37:32Fame and Alzheimer's. And so

37:35we've got a lot of support.

37:36We've got a lot of great things

37:37and a lot of great people we've

37:38covered tonight. So thank you

37:39for your patience to do that.

37:41Certainly. Again, thank our Boy

37:42Scout troops and the members of

37:44our community for fighting, uh,

37:46for this recognition. Doctor

37:47brothers, thank you for

37:48representing as well at the

37:49Department of Human Cultural

37:51Resources. So thank you. Um,

37:53and Representative Colvin,

37:54thank you. All right. Council,

37:55with that, we will move to the

37:58city manager's report. Doctor

37:59Hewitt.

38:00Thank you, mayor.

38:01And good afternoon. Good

38:02evening. Members of council.

38:04Um, two, uh, announcements this

38:06evening. One is the city's

38:07economic and community

38:09development Department is

38:10currently accepting

38:12applications for the can do

38:13economic development programs

38:15through October 30th. These

38:18programs provide grants and

38:19financing to help Fayetteville

38:21small businesses and commercial

38:22property owners improve

38:24storefronts, reinvest in

38:26commercial properties, expand

38:27operations, and pursue property

38:29ownership through the can do

38:31core, edge, and boost programs.

38:34Eligible applicants may receive

38:35assistance ranging from smaller

38:38exterior improvements to larger

38:40site investments and commercial

38:41real estate acquisitions,

38:43business owners and commercial

38:45property owners interested in

38:46applying are encouraged to

38:47visit Fayetteville, NC, gov

38:49backslash can do programs or to

38:52review eligibility requirements

38:53and application information.

38:55Again, the application deadline

38:57is October 30th and as you

38:59know, we recently had some

39:01awards that were made from this

39:02program and would encourage

39:04everyone to, um, to drum up the

39:06support for that, particularly

39:07along some of our corridors.

39:09And then on Monday, October

39:1219th, Council, um, we'll have

39:1311 a.m. City Council will hold

39:15a special meeting on data

39:16center study, where staff will

39:18present the full community

39:19input report and everything our

39:21residents shared at the

39:22September 30th engagement

39:24sessions, organized by topic

39:26and by what residents told us

39:27matters most, as well as

39:29looking for guidance from

39:30council on next steps. So

39:32between now and then, if you

39:33have any additional questions

39:35of staff or things you'd like

39:36to see in that meeting, if you

39:37could just reach out to to me

39:39and make sure that it's

39:39included in your meeting on

39:41October 19th. That's all.

39:42Thank you sir. All right.

39:44Council, with that, we will

39:46move to the approval of the

39:47agenda. Uh, we use our Shaw

39:50systems. Uh. so move. All

39:52right. Motion by Councilmember

39:53Hondros, second by hair. Uh,

39:55discussion on the motion. All

39:57right, counselor, look to you

39:57for your votes to approve the

39:59agenda. All right, Madam Clerk,

40:05that carries unanimous. Uh,

40:07moving to the consent items. So

40:11there were my notes. There were

40:13a few polls. Um, 7.04. And, uh,

40:21so I'll go to you,

40:22Councilmember McMillan.

40:23Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

40:25Yes, I'd like to pull.

40:26Two items from the consent

40:27agenda. Uh, one was not

40:29previously mentioned, but would

40:31like to pull a 7.0 alpha three,

40:34and then the other is 7.0 alpha

40:37four.

40:38Okay, so not 11. not 11. Okay.

40:42All right, so with that,

40:44there's a motion to approve.

40:45I'm assuming, uh, with the

40:46exception of those two items.

40:48All right. It's a motion by

40:49Councilmember McMillan to

40:51approve the consent, with the

40:52exception of 083 and oh eight

40:54four. Seconded by Ferguson. Any

40:57discussion? Council, I'll look

40:58to you for your votes on that.

41:01Oh, something happened.

41:02Here.

41:05Uh. Let's see. All right.

41:11She's resetting it. Yeah.

41:16All right. All right.

41:26All right. That motion carries

41:27to approve with the exception

41:29of of it's 8 to 2. Those voting

41:32against the agenda approval.

41:34Mayor Pro Tem Thompson and

41:35Davis. All right, Council, I

41:38look to you. I mean, uh,

41:39Councilmember McMillan, 7.083.

41:44Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So this

41:46is a revisiting an item we've

41:48talked about recently. It's the

41:49pivot parking, uh, approval.

41:53Uh, we've talked for months

41:55about, um, about getting public

41:57input on this, uh, understand

41:59that switching contracts at

42:01this point is pretty, pretty

42:02important. Uh, we heard from

42:04the staff reasons for, uh,

42:08switching contracts to another

42:09company. Um, even got some

42:11indication of a thorough

42:13process and a scoring process

42:15that led us to pivot parking.

42:18Um, really, really want to

42:20value moving at the speed of

42:21trust with the community and

42:24have asked about different

42:25viewpoints, especially, uh,

42:27whether we have full support

42:29from members who will be

42:30directly impacted, uh, from the

42:33public and especially from the

42:35folks that live and work

42:36downtown. And I would like to

42:39spend a little bit more time

42:41with this and understand what

42:43an analysis of doing away with

42:46paid parking would look like.

42:48Uh, that's something that was

42:49not presented to us at all. Uh,

42:52that is something that I do

42:55hear from residents. Uh,

42:57there's some folks are in favor

42:59of. And I think what folks are

43:01saying is they would like to

43:02know what it would cost to do

43:03away with this costly contract

43:07with the company. Uh, and there

43:08is a sense that we're working

43:10just to break even. Uh, we're,

43:13uh, charging people that live

43:14here just so we can pay a

43:16company, and we're not breaking

43:18even. I think the analysis is

43:19showing that, uh, so I'm I'm in

43:21favor of waiting on this, uh,

43:23coming back to a regular

43:24meeting to discuss this more,

43:26but also more. More so in favor

43:28of getting more input from the

43:30public, uh, from people who

43:32will have to pay what looks

43:34like, uh, substantially more to

43:37come downtown. And then also

43:39from the downtown business

43:41owners, some of whom have an

43:43issue with the direction that

43:44we're heading in. Some I asked

43:45the council tonight is to pull

43:47this, move it to a regular work

43:49session. Uh, and then also

43:51direct staff to get some, uh,

43:53some input from the public. Uh,

43:55before we move forward on on

43:57finalizing this contract.

43:58All right. Thank you.

43:59Councilmember McMillan. Mayor

44:00pro tem.

44:00Yes. Thank you. Mayor. Uh, I

44:02know we can ask staff to come

44:03up, but this item has already

44:05been to a work session. This

44:07item has already been vetted

44:08through staff. This item has

44:10already been identified. For

44:12this being the best option for

44:13the city of Fayetteville. Uh,

44:15this item wasn't discussed

44:17upstairs in the dinner meeting.

44:19Um, so I would move that we

44:21would continue to move forward

44:22with this item. Mister mayor,

44:23thank you.

44:25All right, Councilman Davis, is

44:26that a second? All right. This

44:27motion by Mayor pro tem, second

44:29by Davis. Discussion. Council

44:30member McMillan.

44:32Uh, just, uh, I know this

44:33wasn't discussed in. And the

44:36upstairs dinner meeting.

44:38However, I hope that y'all have

44:39received the same feedback that

44:40I have. I don't know what, uh,

44:43levels engagement look like or

44:45feel like for everybody, but if

44:47there is a point that's brought

44:48up, especially by people who

44:49are directly impacted, uh, I'm

44:51more likely to take a little

44:52bit more time, especially if we

44:54have the time. And as part of a

44:56part of our discussion of the

44:58motion, would I like to ask

44:60staff, uh, if someone could

45:01tell us what we lose in terms

45:03of money.

45:05Uh.

45:06Moving forward on this tonight

45:07versus waiting on this for

45:09public input?

45:10They can answer that. I need to

45:12I would prefer to get that

45:13before you got a motion,

45:14because that discussion is a

45:15part of it. But do you have

45:16someone from staff that can

45:18answer the question? It's not

45:19the typical process, but we

45:20want to, um, even though we had

45:22this in work session.

45:23Yes, sir. The the main thing is

45:25that while we are without a

45:28contract, we are paying a

45:30public parking. Um, I don't

45:32know if I would say it's a lot

45:34extra, but it is considerable

45:36for them to maintain. Um, while

45:38we are also waiting, as you may

45:41recall, we have a number of

45:43parking meters which are

45:46inoperable. Um, but don't take

45:47cash that may take credit card,

45:49but, um, I'm happy to answer

45:51any specific questions. And

45:52staff is is here at the moment.

45:54Um, but, um, I think the

45:56contract that we're paying is,

45:58uh, $62,000 a month to the

46:03public parking. Um, and just to

46:06continuation from month to

46:07month, but it's council's

46:09pleasure and direction. If you

46:10would like more information or

46:11would like to do something

46:12differently.

46:12All right. And, uh,

46:14Councilmember Ferguson, you had

46:15a question.

46:16Yes, sir. Thank you. Mayor, I

46:17just had one question. Um, is

46:20it is it correct that, um,

46:23pivot has a one star average

46:25rating with the Better Business

46:26Bureau? Does anybody.

46:30Know that?

46:31I have not heard that.

46:33Oh, no. Staff did the research

46:35and brought it to us. So, uh,

46:37who was in charge of Byron?

46:38Wasn't it?

46:39Brian? Oh, miss Sheila. Um, so

46:53I think the council member. So

46:54first of all, just for the

46:55general public to, to put some

46:58context to this, um, this was a

47:00bid process. Is that correct?

47:01The RFP went out. Uh,

47:03respondents responded and, uh,

47:06staff then vetted the bids.

47:08According to, uh, the bid

47:10results that came in. So you

47:12didn't arbitrarily just pick a

47:14vendor. So just for that to,

47:16um, the city is never, uh, not

47:19lost money on parking. There

47:20was a time when it was almost

47:22$1 million a year, because the

47:24parking has to be managed. Uh,

47:26the difference is that it was

47:28free parking at one time. And

47:29the same business owners, you

47:31know, the district rep can

47:32speak to this to Downtown

47:33Alliance and other business

47:34owners. Uh, had a problem with

47:35people parking in front of

47:36their business with no charge

47:38on it and no time limits. And

47:40so, uh, this was a thorough

47:41engagement that was brought

47:43online about six years ago.

47:44Republic has had the contract,

47:46their contract is up. And as

47:48the manager said, because they

47:49don't have a contract, we're

47:50paying a substantial amount

47:52month to month. And so you all

47:53put our RFP out. So can you

47:55pick it up from that point? Uh,

47:56I guess to address

47:57Councilmember Ferguson's

47:59question, he asked about, uh, a

48:00rating. Was that one of your

48:02scoring factors that you took

48:03in?

48:03We, um, we had five responses

48:06to our RFP was an extensive

48:07process. Uh, we started earlier

48:09in the year, and as part of the

48:12process, we, um, evaluated the

48:15RFP responses through a vetting

48:17committee from the city. Uh,

48:19following that, we had an

48:20interview process. And then

48:22following that, we, uh, we

48:25checked all the references for

48:27the top finalists as well. So

48:29there was a three tier process.

48:31Um, and I'm unaware of the one

48:34star rating, but, uh, based on

48:37the five responses that we had

48:38and our vetting system, which

48:40is the scoring process for the

48:42responses, the interviews, um,

48:44we didn't score the the actual

48:47reference, but, uh, all of that

48:49was put into consideration and

48:51pivot came on top.

48:52Okay.

48:53Thank you.

48:55All right.

48:56Councilmember Miller.

48:57Second final round.

48:58I'm sorry. And I also want to

48:59add we have lots of checks and

49:00balances on the contract.

49:02All right.

49:03Councilman McMillan, second.

49:05Final round. No thank you,

49:06Sheila, for for clarifying

49:08that. Thank you for the

49:09reminder, Councilmember

49:11Ferguson, part of what we're

49:12hearing from the public is, um,

49:14an examination of what pivot

49:16has done in other cities in a,

49:17in a in a critical way and

49:20raising questions about whether

49:21we want to enter in a, in a

49:23contract. And I know that's

49:24going to happen with any

49:24business. Um, I think my, my,

49:27um, the reason why I pulled

49:29this from, from consent is

49:31because there is enough public

49:33engagement for me to know that

49:35this is worth taking a another

49:37look at. I'm wondering if, uh,

49:40if you could answer the

49:40question of what we lose and

49:42waiting to, uh, approve this,

49:46uh, what we lose in terms of

49:48allowing the public to have

49:49some input on this prior to

49:51moving forward?

49:52I think I'd like to answer that

49:53in terms of the actual

49:55contract. So from my

49:56understanding of the contract,

49:58we have opportunities for

50:00termination within a 30 day

50:02period. And so even though we

50:04engage in a contract and it's a

50:05two year contract, we will have

50:07opportunities to end that

50:09contract per legal approval. I

50:11think I would have our legals.

50:13Our legal team is reviewing

50:14that contract as we speak, and

50:16there'll be opportunities for

50:17us if we're unhappy with their

50:19service and or for other

50:20reasons, to terminate that

50:22contract. And so I would offer

50:25to this council that having

50:28stability in the system that we

50:29currently have, uh, which is a

50:31transition through an extensive

50:33effort, we've selected pivot

50:35and having stability in that

50:36system, moving towards pivot,

50:39engaging them in this contract

50:40and then evaluating them,

50:42getting them to have

50:43conversations with the

50:44downtown, having conversations

50:45with this council and then post

50:48that, uh, if there is an if

50:49there is if they're not meeting

50:51our needs in terms of how

50:52they're operating the, the the

50:54contract. We have several

50:56opportunities after that.

50:58All right, Johnson.

51:00C no, Mr..

51:01Mayor. Yes.

51:03Um, I um, again we'll we'll

51:06verify this. Um, but the one

51:09star was for customers. They

51:11have a a rating by the Better

51:14Business Bureau, but we'll

51:15verify all of that as well. Um,

51:17but the customer rating was

51:19one.

51:19Well, nobody wants to pay.

51:21Parking.

51:22And especially if you get a

51:23ticket so I.

51:24Can see that customer's always.

51:26All right.

51:26All right. So council will look

51:27to you for your vote. All

51:35right, madam clerk. Motion

51:38carries, uh, 8 to 2 to vote in

51:40opposition. Ferguson and

51:42McMillan. All right, 7.08 for

51:46E.E. Smith. Uh, $25,000

51:49donation to City Council.

51:50Approved last work session so

51:52that they could the band could

51:53represent, uh, city of

51:55Fayetteville, Cumberland

51:56County, in fact, North Carolina

51:58in the Thanksgiving Day Parade

51:59in Chicago. Councilmember

52:00McMillan, you pulled that?

52:01Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. You

52:03just discussed this recently

52:04and made a decision as a

52:05council to move this forward to

52:06tonight. And I expect that

52:09we're going to give full

52:10consensus on moving this

52:11forward. However, um, one of

52:13the things I noted during the

52:14work session is that we just

52:17passed a budget through an

52:19extensive process, and that

52:21lasted for about 3 or 4 months.

52:23Um, there was a lot that we

52:25lost in passing that budget.

52:28Um, we, uh, we made cuts to

52:30just about every single section

52:32in the city. Uh, there was a

52:34lot of preaching about, uh,

52:35strict adherence, fiscal

52:37responsibility. And I know that

52:40at the work session, I'll bring

52:41it up again today. Is that at

52:43every single work session since

52:45we passed the budget, we've had

52:46these, um, forecasted, um,

52:50expenditures. And this is one

52:53of them. I want to make it one

52:54to stay consistent in making it

52:56a practice to, uh, when there

52:58is something that is unfocused

53:00that we didn't agree to this

53:02summer, to making sure that

53:03it's not just on the consent

53:04agenda, making sure that it's

53:06part of, uh, of our fiscal

53:08responsibility as a city and

53:10ensuring that we know where the

53:11funding sources is coming from,

53:13but also leading to a path

53:14where we are a lot more

53:16fiscally responsible and are

53:19able to prioritize, uh, in the

53:21budgeting process, what we want

53:22to spend money on at a higher

53:24degree. Uh, so this is this is

53:26me pulling this off of consent,

53:29uh, just to make sure that we

53:30are we are tracking all of

53:32these expenditures that we're

53:33agreeing to. That were nowhere

53:35in the picture, uh, this past

53:37summer.

53:38Right.

53:39All right, all right. Um, done

53:43with that. But I, I will start

53:45with, uh, Councilman Davis

53:46Preston's, like, first. Thank

53:48you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, well, I

53:50understand my colleagues

53:52perception.

53:53Uh.

53:54I think it's always an

53:55opportunity to be able to

53:57invest in our youth. And this

53:58is something positive that

53:59these kids get to experience.

54:00And I think it's beneficial for

54:02this council to support our

54:04youth, which we committed to

54:05multiple times over and over

54:07again. So if there's every

54:08opportunity to support our

54:09youth, I think this is a prime

54:11opportunity. While I understand

54:13budget impacts, and I think

54:14that's the conversation of

54:15council and future budget

54:16sessions, but at this moment,

54:18this is a positive opportunity

54:20to give these kids opportunity

54:22to go and represent our city.

54:23Thank you.

54:24Thank you. Uh. Councilmember

54:27Mayor Pro.

54:27Tem, thank you. Mayor. Uh, I'm

54:30baffled this evening. I'm

54:31having a hard time

54:32understanding. Maybe I have all

54:34times because I thought we had

54:35a work session last Monday, and

54:37I thought we spent at least an

54:38hour on pivot parking last

54:41Monday. I thought we spent at

54:42least 40 minutes on Grant and

54:45$25,000 and challenging the

54:47county last Monday about these

54:49funds. So once you approve

54:51something, it goes on the

54:52consent agenda. So this idea

54:55that we're just putting stuff

54:56on the consent agenda without

54:58having any discussion, I don't

54:59know where that's coming from.

55:01This is the first time I have

55:02seen this since I have been on

55:04council. We just don't put

55:05things on consent agenda

55:07without at least contacting

55:09somebody from staff to give us

55:11a briefing on something that

55:12you have concerns about, or

55:14going upstairs and discussing

55:15it with all council in the

55:16dinner meeting. None of this

55:19happened. So, mayor, I think we

55:21need to move forward with what

55:22we agreed to do last Monday is

55:24to Grant E Smith the $25,000,

55:28and part of that motion was to

55:30challenge, uh, Cumberland

55:31County to do the same. Thank

55:33you, Mr. Mayor.

55:34Thank you, Councilmember Jones.

55:36Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'm the

55:37one that brought this forward.

55:38So I'm going to say this very

55:40quickly. Uh, one I don't take

55:43lightly to putting anything

55:45forth. Uh, without

55:47understanding of budget

55:49implications. Uh, this

55:50particular funds, as you can

55:51see, are coming from, uh, Arpa,

55:54Arpa act funds. And you all can

55:56correct me if I'm wrong. Um,

55:58um, Mr., uh, city manager, uh,

56:01those funds initially, I, I

56:03know it's coming from interest,

56:04but the funds itself had to be

56:06spent within a certain time

56:07frame. Very, very strict, very,

56:10very strict as far as what it

56:12can be used for. So this is

56:13being funded from the interest

56:15from that. So I come in staff,

56:18first of all for adhering to

56:19those federal guidelines for

56:21that. Secondly, uh, this is an

56:24investment. This is a rare

56:26opportunity, uh, for our youth

56:29to engage and gain some

56:30experiences that will help

56:33change their lives. Number

56:36three, uh, the aspect the money

56:38will be allotted up to based

56:42on, uh, that was my motion. Up

56:44to 25,000, uh, based on our own

56:47travel policies. And I can tell

56:50you, our travel policies are

56:51very stiff. So where it's

56:54going, how it's being spent,

56:56uh, they're they're working on

56:57that. So for me, I'm okay with

57:00this, uh, simply because we are

57:03a very, very fiscally

57:06responsible city. I firmly

57:09believe that. And these things

57:10aren't, uh, as far as I can

57:12remember, even before council

57:14things, things come up, and I

57:16know we we discuss them, of

57:18course, because we are good

57:19stewards. I don't want to say

57:20we're trying to be. I firmly

57:21believe we are. Uh, and so when

57:23the time comes, I would

57:25definitely move for it to make

57:26the motion. Thank you, Mr.

57:27Mayor.

57:28All right. Uh. Councilmember

57:31hair. Well, Hondros.

57:33I second that motion. I was

57:35just curious if anybody knows

57:37if the county matched our, uh,

57:39rose up to our challenge.

57:42Oh, no.

57:42We're going to let.

57:43Uh, former band member Pratt.

57:46deal with them. But we.

57:47Did our. We did our part.

57:49All right, Councilman here. Uh.

57:50Thank you. Mayor, I'm. I'm

57:51with.

57:52My my colleagues.

57:53I couldn't get the second end,

57:54but I will third and fourth.

57:56That, uh, you know, we we gave

57:58a pretty big discussion on

58:01this, uh, last week, but I

58:03think one of the the best

58:05echoes concerning this item

58:07that it is the interest of our,

58:10uh, what is the Arpa funding?

58:13So it's not a direct, direct,

58:16uh, fund balance item. So I

58:19will be, uh, supporting this.

58:21Uh, I haven't heard any

58:22feedback from the county, but

58:24it's my understanding that the

58:26school board gave, I think,

58:286000.

58:29I'm told.

58:319000. So some of our our

58:34colleagues are supporting our

58:36young folk to move forward. So

58:38I will be supporting this item

58:40again tonight.

58:41All right. Councilmember

58:42McMillan, second final.

58:44Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Mr.

58:45Mayor. Uh, to be clear, I will

58:47also be supporting the

58:49expenditure. Uh, but I don't

58:51want the point loss that we can

58:52do a hell of a lot better. Uh,

58:54as a council, uh, and our in

58:57our ability to track,

58:58underscore. and highlight when

59:00there's, um, forecasted

59:02expenditures, especially a

59:04couple of months after we just,

59:05uh, just finished our budget

59:07process, and, uh, we'll stay

59:09consistent with pulling things

59:10off of the consent that are

59:12part of that. And we'd also

59:13look to the staff to, to help

59:15us as a council to be even more

59:17fiscally responsible, uh, by

59:19highlighting those things when

59:20we when we make decisions, uh,

59:23to, to spend, um, forecasted

59:25funds. All right. Thank you. So

59:26let me.

59:27Make that point. Thank you,

59:27Councilmember McMillan. Uh, let

59:29me let me just add a few

59:31things.

59:32So, um, we spent from 2:00 to

59:407:00 last week in a work

59:42session with five hours plus.

59:44That was full consensus on the

59:45last two items, including you.

59:47It was parking. You voted for

59:49it. If you voted for. And so

59:51when we get in, we pontificate

59:52tonight. We. It's not fair to

59:54us. It's not fair to to them

59:56that we asked staff to recap

59:58something they talked about for

59:594 or 5 hours last week, and

1:00:01then the budget that's been

1:00:02referenced twice tonight. It

1:00:03was only one person that voted

1:00:05against that. It's the same

1:00:06person. It's talking about

1:00:07fiscal responsibility. So, you

1:00:10know, I just don't want to make

1:00:11sure that we're just not

1:00:12grandstanding that the actual

1:00:13facts behind it. But our votes

1:00:15speak for us. If we say we

1:00:17support something, we say we

1:00:18support the youth, the Arpa

1:00:20money that everybody's talking

1:00:21about is American Rescue Plan

1:00:23dollars to 40, 40 plus million.

1:00:24That city got 60 plus million.

1:00:27The county got for recovery. We

1:00:29were able to do community good

1:00:31with it, and it had to be spent

1:00:33in a certain number of time.

1:00:34And I think that this was the

1:00:35source of those dollars. So I'm

1:00:37looking forward to Eve Smith

1:00:38representing the city and the

1:00:39county and the state on the

1:00:40national stage. And so, um,

1:00:43Council, with that, we'll look

1:00:44to you for your votes to, uh,

1:00:46show our support for this item.

1:00:51All right. It's unanimous.

1:00:54Thank you. All right. Moving to

1:00:56the next item, uh, public

1:00:58hearing. Uh, this is a time

1:01:03where we'll hold a Public

1:01:05hearing with the city Council

1:01:06will formally seek your input.

1:01:08Individuals designed to speak

1:01:09in the hearing. I signed up to

1:01:11speak with the City clerk by

1:01:12name and address before the

1:01:13beginning of tonight's meeting.

1:01:15We'll begin with a staff

1:01:16presentation, and we'll move

1:01:17into the formal hearings. 15

1:01:18minutes will be allowed for

1:01:20those in favor and those

1:01:21opposing the item. Individual

1:01:22speakers are limited to minutes

1:01:24each, unless by previous

1:01:25arrangement. A single

1:01:26spokesperson is designated,

1:01:28which case that spokesperson

1:01:30may use. The entire 15 minutes.

1:01:31When the city clerk calls your

1:01:32name. Please come to the

1:01:34podium. Please clearly state

1:01:35your name and address for the

1:01:36record, and you may then

1:01:37address the council. The light

1:01:38changes from green to amber.

1:01:40That means you have 30s

1:01:41remaining and at the end of

1:01:42your time, you'll be notified

1:01:45with the red light. And so with

1:01:46that, I will stop and I'll turn

1:01:48it over to you. Miss Murray.

1:01:59Good evening. Okay.

1:02:19It doesn't work.

1:02:24Good evening, mayor and

1:02:26council. Um. Tonight, we are

1:02:29here to ask you to conduct the

1:02:30public hearing in regards to

1:02:32the issuance of the limited

1:02:34obligation bonds. So we're in

1:02:37the process of issuing the 2026

1:02:40limited obligation bonds. The

1:02:41proposed projects is the

1:02:43MacArthur Park Road Sports

1:02:45Complex, proposed at $18

1:02:48million. Um, fire apparatus,

1:02:50another $8 million. And then,

1:02:53um, the cost of issuance is

1:02:55anticipated as a part of this

1:02:56particular issuance is 275,000.

1:03:01Um, so what is the project plan

1:03:03for the MacArthur Road Park? It

1:03:05consists of a 70 acre land

1:03:07partnership with Fort Bragg. It

1:03:09would include 12 baseball and

1:03:12softball fields, a multi-use

1:03:14building with restrooms,

1:03:15concession and office space, an

1:03:18open air pavilion, maintenance

1:03:20facility, playground, splash

1:03:22pads and athletic fields. Um,

1:03:26the fire apparatus, including

1:03:27this financing is two fire

1:03:29engines, two ladder trucks, one

1:03:31rescue truck and one pumper

1:03:33truck. So proposed financing.

1:03:37We are proposing limited

1:03:38obligation bonds for this

1:03:40particular financing. Um, we're

1:03:42not proposing geo bonds with

1:03:44this general obligation bonds

1:03:45because the city does not have

1:03:47any current authorization

1:03:49related to go bonds for park

1:03:51projects or, um, fire

1:03:54apparatus. Um, revenue bonds

1:03:56isn't the best um, um, use

1:04:00because this particular, um,

1:04:04financing for these particular

1:04:06um, uses the nature of those

1:04:08projects does not meet the

1:04:10requirements for revenue bonds.

1:04:11Revenue bonds are typically

1:04:13where you're going to generate

1:04:14revenue. That will use will be

1:04:16used to pay the debt service.

1:04:17So our proposal and what's been

1:04:19presented to you is limited

1:04:20obligation bonds. So, um, what

1:04:24you what we're doing tonight we

1:04:26will do the public hearing. We

1:04:27will bring the financing

1:04:29documents back at a later

1:04:30meeting. That will include an

1:04:32amendment to the master trust

1:04:33degree agreement, and that will

1:04:35come before the council on the

1:04:37October 26th meeting for you to

1:04:40approve the final resolution.

1:04:43So what does a repayment

1:04:45structure look like? We have

1:04:46the MacArthur Park, um, that

1:04:48will have 20 years of

1:04:52amortization with our debt

1:04:53payments to start in fiscal

1:04:55year 28. So there's no fiscal

1:04:57impact in 2027. Um, the fire

1:05:00trucks will have a ten year

1:05:02repayment. Um, and that will

1:05:04start in 28 as well. So the

1:05:06average debt service over the

1:05:07course of the ten years will be

1:05:10about $3 million a year,

1:05:13dropping down after the fire

1:05:15station. Um, not the fire

1:05:17station. My apology. The fire

1:05:18trucks are paid off. Um, how

1:05:21are we paying for this? Um, our

1:05:23current debt, um, model. We

1:05:25have dedicated property tax

1:05:27revenues that set aside in

1:05:28order for us to be able to fund

1:05:30these, um, projects. And this

1:05:33was in our CIP and programmed

1:05:35in. So the debt service

1:05:37payments were programmed in to

1:05:39start in 2028. So what are our

1:05:42key dates? Um, at the 26

1:05:44meeting, you will have your

1:05:45final council approval. Um, on

1:05:49the 3rd of November, we will go

1:05:52to the LGC for their

1:05:53consideration to approve the

1:05:54issuance of the limited

1:05:55obligation bonds on the 11th of

1:05:58November. And we will do our

1:05:59bond pricing. Um, and we're

1:06:01scheduled to close on the, um,

1:06:04December the 3rd. So, um, the

1:06:06action tonight is for the

1:06:08council to conduct the public

1:06:10hearing and to receive comments

1:06:12on the proposed financing. And

1:06:16I'll take any questions if

1:06:17there's any questions for me.

1:06:19Don't see any, Miss Murray.

1:06:20Thank you. Um, with that, we

1:06:23will open the public hearing.

1:06:24Madam clerk.

1:06:24Mayor, we have no speakers for

1:06:26this item.

1:06:27All right. So with that, we

1:06:29will close the public hearing.

1:06:32And, uh, madam CFO, uh, all you

1:06:35needed tonight for us is to

1:06:36conduct a public hearing.

1:06:37You'll come back for later

1:06:38action. Correct. Okay. All

1:06:40right. Thank you so much. All

1:06:41right. Council.

1:06:42Mr. mayor, I think we need to

1:06:43adopt the resolution.

1:06:45I don't think I don't know what

1:06:48she just said.

1:06:50So the resolution was adopted

1:06:52in the October 5th meeting. Um,

1:06:54when we originally posted, we

1:06:57was posting under a different

1:06:59financing structure of what we

1:07:01was going to use as collateral.

1:07:02That changed. So therefore, the

1:07:04public, the public hearing had

1:07:05to be shifted to this meeting.

1:07:07So the only action tonight is

1:07:09to conduct the public hearing,

1:07:11because you've already approved

1:07:12the preliminary resolution.

1:07:14Okay. Thank you. All right.

1:07:17Council. With that, we'll move

1:07:18to 9.01. Um, and that was the

1:07:24item that, uh, about the

1:07:26collection framework that we

1:07:27had discussed would be moved to

1:07:30a work session. Uh, so we need

1:07:32formal action for that. Um,

1:07:34council. All right. Councilman.

1:07:36Hair. Yes, sir.

1:07:37Mayor, uh, I move, I move,

1:07:39that. we move. Item 9.01. Um,

1:07:46approve the code enforcement

1:07:48collections framework. And to

1:07:50adopt the resolution

1:07:51authorizing accounting write

1:07:52offs and limited interest and

1:07:56penalty waivers to move to our

1:07:58next. Is it our next work

1:08:00session to our next work

1:08:02session?

1:08:02All right. It's a motion by

1:08:03Councilmember Harris, seconded

1:08:04by green. Uh, discussion on

1:08:06that. All right. Council look

1:08:08to you for your votes.

1:08:12Uh.

1:08:13Who are we missing, Madam

1:08:15Clerk? Okay. All right. That's

1:08:17unanimous. And, Councilmember

1:08:18Hondros, you had something.

1:08:20Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'd like

1:08:21to move. Um, item 10.0, uh, or

1:08:2710.01, rather to January's work

1:08:29session.

1:08:30Second. All right. That is

1:08:31moved. Mr. Hewitt, you, Doctor

1:08:33Hewitt, you have that. All

1:08:35right, all right. Council. With

1:08:36that, I'll entertain a motion

1:08:37to adjourn. So move motion by

1:08:40Mayor Pro Tem, seconded by

1:08:41hair. Thank you. Meeting

1:08:43adjourned.

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