2026-10-05 - Board of Commissioners

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00:48Alamance County is pleased to present the

00:56Okay, we're going to call the October 5th of

01:02the invocation and the pledge of allegiance is

01:09Heavenly Father, we come before you today with

01:16community. We recognize that the decisions before

01:25and future of the people we have been entrusted

01:31issues before us, patience to listen to one

01:40and humility to recognize that none of us has all

01:49and disagreements and seek what is best for the

01:55thoughtful in the responsibilities placed before

02:07I pledge algiance to the flag of the United

02:14it stands, one nation under God, indivisible,

02:25Next, um I need the approval of the agenda. Um is

02:32the agenda or do I do it during discussion? No,

02:39about just having a simple discussion about

02:45just had some some differences and I think it'd be

02:50And so, um, I've got a copy of the one that's, uh,

02:58and stuff, and it doesn't even have a policy

03:04to see if we could add this to the agenda. So,

03:13No second. So, I guess the motion it is. Okay.

03:23Commissioner Pow, we have a proclamation and

03:40Madam chair, we need to approve the agenda and

03:45can I have a vote to approve the agenda? Motion

04:00Yes, sir. Thank Thank you very much. Uh, madam

04:07have a proclamation for World Polio Day. And this

04:18And I'd like these three gentlemen to introduce

04:25Woodson, president of Als Rotary. Randy Perkins,

04:33Russell Guy um Graham Rotary and assistant

04:40have been leaders here in the community and for

04:47raising money to eradicate polio from the world.

04:55that you grew up with that affected by polio.

05:04and it has proven difficult to do so but we are

05:12uh polio u commi committee chair if you would

05:21done. Thank you. So in 1985, Rotary International

05:30the children of the world that we would eliminate

05:37we initiate we uh coupled up with ro with the

05:44initiative to end that fight and we've been

05:53elimination of polio throughout the world. We've

06:02when we get done with that, we'll be done with

06:08that we made to the children of the world. Thank

06:16are Afghanistan and Pakistan. act you so I have

06:24do whereas polomalitis commonly known as polio

06:33permanent paralysis and in severe cases death and

06:43world as world polio day commemorating the birth

06:51successful polio vaccine helped transform the

06:59whereas Rot Rotary International has been a leader

07:07than four decades, beginning its polio plus

07:15health organizations, volunteers, and communities

07:22volunteers have helped immunize children, raise

07:30strengthen health systems in the ongoing effort

07:38and its partners have contributed billions of

07:46worldwide eradication of polio. And whereas the

07:54the world closer than ever to eliminating

08:01surveillance, and community participation remain

08:09the Burlington Rotary Club, and the Graham

08:16eradication of polio represents not only

08:22but also a commitment to future generations.

08:29are encouraged to recognize World Polio Day and

08:37achieve a poliofree world. Now therefore, be

08:45of Commissioners hereby recognizes October the

08:55and recognizes all citizens to join Rotary and

09:02to end polio. Now proclaimed this fifth day of

09:12Kelly Allen, chair, attested by Jenny

09:19I have a proclamation for each of you. And

09:34I was going to say a lot of you. Thank you.

09:43So, next we have public comments. Um, we

09:48up and state your name and address and you have

09:53a timer will go off and if you

09:57you are on and return to your

10:13Good morning. My name is Norma Yanes. I work

10:17Environmental. I'm the government contracts

10:21Carolina and South Carolina. Waste Industries

10:29North Carolina. In 2018, we merged with GFL and

10:35um GFL Environmental. We are the current

10:42these Alamance County residents from our

10:47We have been providing services and paying taxes,

10:54I can remember in the 1990s I was here when

10:59Y'all were one of the first counties in the state

11:03and assisted helping educate the commercial

11:0939 people including maintenance, truck drivers,

11:15and management. We have three maintenance bays,

11:21We provide residential services to other um

11:26Elon, Green Level, Hall River, Meban, and Meban.

11:33to counties that encompass rural areas. Franchise

11:39and supply the county with reports, bonding, and

11:44holders are required to service any resident

11:50or remote, and they are charged the same rate

11:56Exclusive franchise holders protect every resident

12:03exclusive franchise holders cannot cherrypick

12:12transition or interruptions in service if we

12:17have staff and equipment in place and we are

12:20franchise area. We have additional assets and

12:25High Point that can assist in an emergency.

12:30overall we were graded and chosen as overall low

12:37We would like for the board here today to uh vote

12:44Industries doing business as GFL Environmental.

13:02My name is Amanda Johnson. I'm here to talk about

13:10books. Um, I wrote something I want to share.

13:18mother died that day. She's the reason I'm here

13:25so you can imagine how many books I had. My

13:31me choose the books that interested me. She knew

13:37escape for some people and are often the first

13:43represented. Representation is important

13:51LGBTQ children and youth are often at

13:58than those who are not LGBTQ. Books are a

14:05change someone's sexuality. In fact, in my 20

14:13I believe everyone has the right to access books

14:19political place to be. A place where every view

14:26to choose how you raise your children and what

14:31to books on topics you do not agree with is going

14:39positions that influence our libraries who are not

14:46affect and impact the children in our community

14:52at best. This is America and everyone has the

14:58raise their families as they choose. But it does

15:04are allowed to read. Reading is for everyone. It

15:10and should be left by and should be left by people

15:16impartial uh and not use their position to control

15:23to literature for all. Thank you. Thank you. Next

15:44Good morning. Um, I'm reading this

15:49constituents and colleagues have been

15:52county committee appointments. Instead, you

15:57or just ignored ignored the situation. I

16:01but if you are afraid that you will not

16:05you're really doing, maybe you shouldn't be

16:24Good morning. Before I get started, I do want

16:29operative. I'm here because like many, I am a

16:35paid to be here. I give my time and energy because

16:41It's almost comical that I have feel that I

16:45It's clear that the culture wars have firmly

16:50fail to recognize is that Almetz County is full of

16:55a beautiful thing. This also means the services

17:01viewpoints. However, it seems there are some

17:05especially when it comes to our county services.

17:10space that has served all individuals. This means

17:15read. And it means that they have displays up

17:20not mean that the library is being mismanaged. For

17:25this claim with no substantiating evidence

17:31slanderous at worst. Just because you do not

17:36it is being mismanaged. The focus should be on the

17:40to have become party politics rather than what is

17:45County. As commissioners, you do not just serve

17:50serve all of us, Republicans, Democrats,

17:56and all parties in between. You even serve the

18:02as the people you want, the people you serve want

18:08the agenda that one of your own commissioners

18:12something to hide. If there's nothing to hide, why

18:19County deserve to know what is going on and why

18:22leadership. I understand that being in a position

18:28you make mistakes, but a good leader is willing

18:33ignore calls for transparency is simply not

18:52Hi, I'm Emily Conway. I'm from Alamance.

18:58two different things today. One is the solid waste

19:05current rubric as discussed at the last meeting

19:12um that seems to firstly unfairly bias the

19:23but also there's no obvious way to lodge a

19:31um the county employee who is in charge of this,

19:37no there's no data. There are no numbers. Um he

19:43a way to call and complain about trash pickup,

19:48I am one of the people that is affected by

19:52not in one of the cities. Um so if we're going to

20:00effort made on the county website or somewhere

20:05trash and recycling pickup. Um, also any new

20:12today needs to ensure that every resident can

20:19and that no residents can be refused service

20:24the carrier. Um, it's not clear to me reading the

20:30will be addressed in any of them. Um, or at least

20:36but that's that. In terms of libraries,

20:42I could. I do think it is um cowardly to avoid

20:51various committee appointments repeatedly and

21:00also contributions from the county and from the

21:07libraries each represent between 1 and 1 and

21:14numbers are different, the contributions are

21:20include the property values of the buildings.

21:26city's voices on these committees doesn't really

21:52Good morning. I'm Deborah Kaufman. I live in

21:58family in the public schools there. Um, I want to

22:06for her ongoing work to benefit all residents

22:12commissioner and library committee meetings

22:18been singularly and regularly supportive of the

22:25services to our public schools and libraries.

22:33application, excuse me, they've worked hard on,

22:40um, only the commissioner's approval. She

22:46certain words like equity in the application. She

22:53the community. Uh until the past few years,

23:00or contentious. When she served on the library

23:07staff creative and inclusive programs and

23:14see happening now. Instead, the committee's

23:20not approve of and want to label. When the

23:26the city's recommendations for library committee

23:32their political beliefs, Miss Thompson spoke up

23:42She shows genuine curiosity and a willingness to

23:50those who most need services and kindness.

23:56above petty politics and ask themselves how

24:02county. We need elected officials

24:07I appreciate uh Commissioner Powell's uh thoughts

24:14heed them when it comes time to being open and

24:32Good morning. My name is Patrick Messenger and

24:36over the state of North Carolina. Our local

24:41Fosters Tour Road in Liberty, North Carolina.

24:46about the visible difference in the potential

24:52by awarding Meridian Waste either a single or

24:58inside the county. Currently, Meridian Waste has

25:04and we are prepared to make capital investment

25:09equipment and 100% new carts for all residents.

25:15operates within the county, it's right there in

25:20trucks passing homes weekly, uh, recycling

25:26Um, and if we think about the difference

25:30the county and your constituents, you'll have

25:34there to service residents, weekly garbage

25:39and we think about the aesthetic of a brand

25:43uh inside the communities. Um, it's a capital

25:48um based on our recon essence uh for putting in

25:54that our planning and our team and our transition

26:00the reliability of the new equipment uh including

26:05Uh not only in today is it is it hard enough to

26:10some of these CDL driver positions, positions

26:15trash and handling recycling to get it done

26:20way. But a new collection vehicle will go a long

26:25communities uh that Meridian Waste believes

26:30leadership team making sure that our routing

26:34county roads as possible. Um the new equipment

26:40emissions than older collection equipment that is

26:45plays a big part not only in the reliable service

26:50but there's also a big financial distinction

26:54submitted for incumbents. There is a difference

27:00the collection equipment into the community. It

27:05you greater service for your constituents. But

27:12financial difference in the proposals between our

27:17haulers may have carts that are outside in the

27:22We talked about the aesthetics and

27:25but the financial difference when it comes down

27:30between Meridian Wast and the incumbent haulers is

27:36much as 95% of factored in for the cost of the new

27:41you for the opportunity to be here. Thank you.

27:58Good morning. Good to see you all again. I am Reed

28:04Waste who would be overseeing the operation here

28:10um, and kind of follow up to what Patrick was

28:16was submitted by us, um, and you all, I know,

28:23familiar with the timeline in order to get this

28:29you know, in the field by January 1st, 2027. That

28:38we have secured this equipment delivery for both

28:46needed to properly service franchise 1, 2, and

28:54both your municipal solid waste, household trash

29:00um to be on to be on the curb ready to go for your

29:08hiccups in uh proper service. So, with all that

29:16you know, some reason, some speculation with the

29:22to come in to properly service the county of

29:29was an um, additional addendum and a focus to be

29:36service or picking or choosing who they want

29:43um, it was spoken upon you weren't able to um,

29:50you weren't able to go out and have someone

29:56franchise holder was. So with that being

30:03all franchises one, two, and three.

30:07I would love to service you and there

30:11the county nor the city. Thank you.

30:29I'm Alicia Ariel, born and raised in Elements

30:33lesson on the legacy of Alamance County,

30:37or our current descent into fascist leadership.

30:42who came and fought before me. I encourage you

30:47do know. I was raised as a white Christian

30:52like our county commissioners, Ed Priyola, Kelly

30:56Cheryl Samford, and Lindseay McKini, believe

31:00of white supremacy. My Jesus did not call for our

31:06local level. He did not call for the persecution

31:10for the defunding of public educational resources

31:15say about our libraries except to remind us the $4

31:20the $40 million allocated to the sheriff's office,

31:25ICE on in our in our nation in the harassment and

31:31did not say that our neighbors must look like us

31:38It's shameful that the local news reported

31:42any investigative research into their ties

31:46for Liberty. They did not report on the

31:49Carolina counties. If they did the most basic

31:54three of these complaints came from moms

31:57a church that publicly and violently supports

32:01have found my mother whose organic concerns came

32:06they turned 17. Despite being queer, I never

32:11I had a shelter homeschooling upbringing

32:15published by Pensacola Christian Academy. I read

32:20the same slaves that turned down freedom to

32:24about Confederate spies, a 28 book series about

32:29years her senior who had helped raise her

32:33more harmful than any of these sticker books in

32:37or sexuality. My earliest memories are of unwanted

32:42harassed, and abused by countless Christians,

32:47Their entire agenda within the library rests on

32:51to protect me and countless children like me.

32:56with resources designed to protect. They've

33:00educators, counselors, or therapists. They

33:04sexual autonomy, consent, or how to navigate

33:09in by countless people about rape, incest, sexual

33:13domestic violence, and marital abuse, all

33:18fails to consider these issues to be comparable

33:23the age of 16. I was accused of sexual immorality

33:29to label all queer people the same as predators.

33:34hold the people in their own lives accountable

33:39libraries to censor our access. You said

33:44knowledge based on their own fear. And they are

33:48sexually explicit content. And they belong

33:53and predators. The same people voting for those

33:58government. Thank you. Thank you. Oh. Uh no

34:18Good morning, commissioners. Um, I don't think

34:24know how to collect garbage. Of course, they do.

34:29real question is whether Alamance County received

34:34how each company plans to handle this contract

34:39Meridian Waste didn't just ask you to assume

34:43staffing plan and job descriptions that clearly

34:48you to assume we understand Elements County.

34:53We didn't just say we could provide carts.

34:57maintained, and replaced if needed. We didn't ask

35:04We laid out our customer service process and

35:08there's a problem. We addressed the safety and

35:12asking you to assume it would be taken care

35:17we didn't ask you to take our word for

35:21and went beyond what was required by

35:26I do want to add one thing that's personal and

35:32contract, you better take care of our county.

35:37another contract to us. This is our county.

35:41community. If we're given the opportunity to serve

35:45that comes with it. There's a big difference

35:50contract and showing that a company is actually

35:55didn't just tell you we could do the job. We

35:59us the opportunity, we're going to take care

36:16Good morning. I'm Jenny Gum. I'm the sales rep

36:24I have the honor this morning of um reading one

36:30morning and it's truly an honor um for me to be

36:38um retired athletic director most of you know

36:42you hello. Hi. Um, dear county commissioners,

36:49Carolina, but also as a very involved citizen

36:55community. It is my understanding that Meridian

37:00collection services within Alamance County. As a

37:06I strongly recommend that Meridian is given

37:12I have known the Cobalt family for many years and

37:17Deanna and Jenny remain heavily involved and have

37:23tradition as their parents established. One of the

37:29commitment to giving back to our community.

37:34through the support of Alamance Burlington School

37:40land and facilities for quarterly training and

37:46see Meridian's name throughout the community and

37:51has lived on and they continue to give back.

37:57that they follow through on their commitments

38:02they have done what they said they would do.

38:07about the way they would approach providing

38:12Alamance County deserves a company that is not

38:18but one that is invested in the community

38:22company and I sincerely hope that you give them

38:27collection for the citizens of Alamance County.

38:32our wonderful community, David V. And to add

38:39for Alamance County and I would never disappoint

39:04Good morning. My name is Tim Webb. I'm the

39:07affairs for Meridian Waste. I cover North Carolina

39:11proposal together for you all. Um, and because

39:18we elected in the in the RFP to provide references

39:25they weren't called and checked. And your

39:30one from Southern Pine, one from Liberty, and one

39:35Meridian from one of the larger haulers uh to

39:41uh I'd encourage you to to reach out

39:47uh would would ask you to because they can tell

39:52what have after the contract was signed, what

39:57heard, you know, about complaints and that sort

40:02that we're very transparent back to the county

40:06in turn are taking care of those issues if and

40:13a firm believer that people remember when you

40:16they remember how you respond. And

40:29As I said, I I would encourage you to reach out

40:36Um we would like to be your provider. We want

40:41folks that that work with me on a daily basis

40:46of Alamance County to stop your phone from

41:05Mary O'Brien, chief marketing, Meridian Waste,

41:12this is our proposal to Alamance County. This is

41:20your county, whether it's area 1, 2, 3, or all of

41:31This is what Republic gave you. You're incumbent.

41:38g you did a competitive RFP and your county asked

41:46you going to service our residents. We have some

41:53that they're not capable. They're very capable.

41:58we pointed out in the packets that were delivered

42:03requirements from the RFP. We ask that you look at

42:09or not the two incumbents truly fulfilled the

42:17not just because it's thick. Yes. Is that a lot of

42:21this? It's hard work. But again, we have to prove

42:29solid waste providers to you. Yes. You know the

42:36who's here running our Tri Corners landfill.

42:42litter? Absolutely. But guess what? We went out

42:49right there did it. We're making sure that we're

42:54a landfill, whether it's a residential contract,

43:01they get sick. That's when most of your service

43:06the route is off for whatever reason taking care

43:12again, our issue is to make sure we've got the

43:17and to make sure that we're servicing your county.

43:22points. And this is really us coming from

43:28they're good companies, but they've got something

43:34prove. And that means every collection matters,

43:41every truck matters. And that's what we're

43:46cost compared to our incumbents. Okay? Republic

43:55100% of subscribers are getting garbage service

44:03the incumbent in area 1 and two. Do you know

44:09cost of the new cart that we're giving them.

44:16approximately a dollar more, uh it's 95% of the

44:22asking for your business. Thank you. Thank you.

44:31and I was actually going to go first here. Um, I

44:37but twice I have nominated someone else. The

44:44library staff, they liked her. She shows up for

44:51the motion to reappoint her because of that. And

44:58sometimes you decide that it's not what you want

45:03that the county spends a whole lot more money

45:09me if I'm wrong, manager York, but any building

45:15property taxes. So, that can't be mentioned

45:22in an application a year earlier. He was told it

45:27was told it would be brought forward at the next

45:33was a library opening. He actually has a degree

45:40So knowing all of his background, I thought he

45:46stated he loves libraries and he has always loved

45:56named someone who was not nominated by one of the

46:03she would like us to do the same. This has been

46:12all the cities that are have libraries and um I

46:19not want to assume the cost of benefits, salary

46:28all I have to say on the Oh, and another thing for

46:34and as you judge, you will be judged and I do not

46:40I have a lot of friends from every walk of life.

46:50on um on the library, some comments were

46:59we as commissioners don't have a thing to do with

47:08and look at different books. We don't assess what

47:14get into that. So to come and complain that we're

47:21Nor do we set agenda for the library committee.

47:32make appointments to a variety of commissions and

47:43suggest to us uh applicants who they would like

47:51uh somebody to uh to fill those slots. and we

47:59citizens. The process is is not a complicated

48:08the positions that needs to be filled and we do

48:15process. There's nothing covered up or hidden uh

48:25make those uh those uh appointments. So I I don't

48:38there that those decisions have been made. Um, and

48:49to say that I think Meridian has made a very very

48:57especially the interest that they're showing today

49:02way that we can uh work that in. Thank you. Thank

49:10principle of this with folks coming in here and

49:15to put on the agenda to have an open conversation

49:21a public comment back from the board is we look

49:27as an actual agenda item. Um there are going to be

49:34that's okay and we're in a good position to really

49:40and whatever. But I think the thing that people

49:46for something, it's just like nothing. And I think

49:53things that commissioners feel strongly about and

49:57they vote yay or nay. But to continually to

50:04good look for leadership or for folks to come in

50:09just aren't being heard. And that's what it is.

50:14or what we think about a committee, it's um I just

50:21willing to talk about it in an open meeting.

50:28I know. Okay. Well, and we discuss it constantly.

50:34and I think all of us I think you're talking

50:38I think all of us have read the uh the thing that

50:49you know what? I feel like they do. It's a waste

50:54Well, you nominated somebody who was

50:58can tell you and evidently had been on

51:01still submitted. Mr. Stoer and but he wasn't

51:08else. I didn't look I'm not going to have a

51:12I don't. Careful. We all need to be really

51:17very nice. I'm just responding back and I never

51:25because that's just not how we should do it.

51:39Sorry. I'm just tired of being accused of things

51:45Meridian Waste. I've known those folks for golly

51:54and uh they've always done everything they've

51:59them a chance to get us to take a look at what

52:08something's come up, every time I've seen a an

52:12So, if they've come to the table with an offer, we

52:24the library, I mean, what we what we proposed as a

52:29board was putting a sticker on a book

52:36know. I I honestly don't know exactly

52:43I hit something. But it's a sticker. We're not

52:52the shelves. We're not telling people they can't

52:58of doing anything like that that I know of. And

53:03a number of years. And uh as far as who who gets

53:11many different weeks now, meetings. Over and over

53:17over and over and over again. We've responded to

53:25a political issue. We're in a campaign and they

53:33Give me a break, guys. Give me a break. This

53:40I agree. It looks to me like they're trying

53:45it's a game that that they're playing not very

53:50as Chairman Allen pointed out, a candidate for

53:57the commissioner's library advisory board. a

54:04librarian with a master's degree in library

54:11a candidate. So we're not talking about

54:16that we're talking about ideology and ideology

54:22perceived ideology. It's putting stickers on a

54:28when their parents are with them in the library.

54:35what I'd like to talk about Good. Yeah, have

54:40ought to talk about in terms of the policy of the

54:48about the proposal and the ordinance coming up

54:54uh by the our staff, the executive branch of of

55:01can oversee that policy. It's the policy I'd like

55:08vendor for any one of the the contracts that come

55:13that come before the county. So, I think what we

55:19look over the shoulder oversight of our executive

55:25job on this ordinance. By the way, it's it's

55:29more of the nuance what the opt out provisions

55:36we'll be satisfied with our role in government.

55:42agenda. So moved. Second. All in favor? I I 50.

55:52business. We have the solid waste ordinance

56:07Good morning, commissioners. M um

56:12opportunity to continue the discussion. Um

56:18uh thus far which is is very healthy and good

56:24u that ultimately will be best for

56:33last the last commissioner's meeting that we had

56:40throughout the presentation today I hope to

56:45the answers for you that um were arisen. Um I'll

56:52uh the recycling in Alamance County go?

56:58Republic Services, who is our contracted recycling

57:05Um, they provided some answers for me I want

57:10are collected obviously um, throughout the

57:16recycling locations uh where we receive materials.

57:23curbside collection for recycle material. Um

57:30material recycle facility in Greensboro. Um 100%

57:40and sold on the commodities market. Uh, Republic

57:47I won't read them. They're on your screen. Um,

57:53market and used to uh make products such as um

58:06So, another question we had was why why

58:13Um we were asked to look at what some of the

58:19throughout the presentation, you'll see where I

58:27uh the outlined options that you'll see. Um but I

58:35um waste is managed responsibly throughout the

58:41traffic on residential streets. Um one of the

58:49there is a scenario there where additional

58:54um just due to the open market scenario,

59:00become very difficult for the the uh the county to

59:08uh lead to residents burning or illegally

59:16Increased calls for code enforcement

59:21with mandatory recycling. We do ordain uh

59:28uh options before you today allow an outlet

59:37So how do we move forward? Um we

59:43uh the surrounding counties in including

59:49overarching themes that I would like you to take

59:56some sort of regulation. Um, I'll start with

1:00:04that was recommended in last uh week's staff

1:00:11Um, our recommendation was that we accept the

1:00:21they were proposed. I did want to point out

1:00:27current franchise, we did add liquidated damages

1:00:37um we made them punitively on purpose so that they

1:00:44to take care of the residents of the county. Um

1:00:54impre no price increases for the first two years

1:01:01which as you know that that would have to be

1:01:08ensured that the three-year price increase is only

1:01:16than 5%. Or unless tipping fees are increased,

1:01:25that Randolph, Grand Granville, and Rockingham

1:01:36Secondly, the the structured hardship or

1:01:42amendment. This this would be an amendment

1:01:47as they currently exist which would allow

1:01:54that in this program would be managed by

1:02:01for sorry grounds for exemption would include

1:02:11a credible safety harassment or similar personal

1:02:19a disability related or other need, and

1:02:28These requests would be submitted to the solid

1:02:34has been taken place and the complaint or

1:02:44The solid waste department would review that

1:02:51alternate collector for the resident. um this

1:03:00franchisee in Alamance County who's gone

1:03:06franchisee exists then a person who holds

1:03:16uh decision from the the department they

1:03:25So one thing that we wanted to ensure was that

1:03:34the alternate collector would not be able

1:03:40that they were bound by in the agreement.

1:03:46uh they were turned down? If what would be the

1:03:52So if a if a if a request was turned down, then

1:03:59county manager and she would be the final say in

1:04:08How many times does a uh recipient of the service

1:04:16It says multiple. So at least two comp multiple

1:04:22franchisee. Well, may I suggest that we specify

1:04:30you know but it it it seems like that's open-ended

1:04:38uh should we be stating that someone cannot pick

1:04:46that we cannot pick up trash though. They cannot

1:04:52rate. That's how it's drafted. I think that's

1:04:58out of the normal franchise, then whomever they

1:05:05rules so they're not dumping things on the side

1:05:09franchisee. So there's no financial incentive for

1:05:16even with a complaint or a couple of complaints.

1:05:22number if we decide to go this route in terms of

1:05:27the rationale for selecting the alternative

1:05:34accept select their own alternative? So

1:05:39has to be met insurance coverages. Um if I can

1:05:49selected alternative meets those criteria why

1:05:56way and if it's not we can make it more clear.

1:06:02they they your agents the agency would select

1:06:10drafted the ordinance. I'll just say that the the

1:06:15and they have already selected another it's their

1:06:21franchise holder. So if if they're in a public

1:06:26scheme. Um or it could be some other company that

1:06:35So an alternate collector um out

1:06:41effect for the duration of any existing

1:06:54Option number three would be licensed hauler

1:07:03you would have uh an amendment to the existing

1:07:12um which again would be filed with the solid

1:07:20insurance requirements again disposal designation

1:07:30Um rates would be set um by the private contractor

1:07:40a rate schedule but not approve or disapprove

1:07:48Chadam and Caswell all use a similar model to

1:07:59no exclusivity, but with a rate cap. Very similar

1:08:07again, a an amendment to the to both

1:08:13that there would be a rate cap set by the board

1:08:21same application process. The hauler applies to

1:08:30as long as they meet the outline criteria, again,

1:08:35um, the the application is approved and they they

1:08:43Um, I mentioned rates again would be set um by

1:08:54Johnston County use a comparable model. I said

1:09:01um they they require a commercial account to be

1:09:09difference uh with Johnston County. I know we were

1:09:15those are the the four additional options that

1:09:21this presentation today. If you have any questions

1:09:29Anyone have any questions, comments?

1:09:38Never mind. Okay, thank you.

1:09:45And next, um, we have, um, Mr. Vote on this.

1:09:52the changes? Expecting nothing to happen. I'm

1:09:56for a moment. Um, yeah. And were you going to make

1:10:02presenting. Well, and and I'll just say this. I I

1:10:11um to allow for a a hardship exemption or a

1:10:19more than one meeting to happen. Um if we decide

1:10:25than one meeting to happen. And so we're we're

1:10:31agreements are going to expire at the end of this

1:10:36how we're going to move forward. So, what I what

1:10:41do what the board wants, but what I would like to

1:10:46seems most tenable. Um, if there's any desired

1:10:53to how many complaints are required uh to enact

1:11:00option is going to require us if we adopt that

1:11:05then we intend to franchise like we have in the

1:11:10Republic and say, "Hey, we've amended our solid

1:11:17how do you feel about that? Do you still want

1:11:21and at this point, we're changing the rules of

1:11:25play anymore. So there there's some uncertainty

1:11:33some direction from the board in terms of how

1:11:37without action, that's no man's land and we don't

1:11:44from I think from Republic and from GFL here this

1:11:54I'd like to hear from you all as far as Well, what

1:12:00if if there's a prepoundonderance of interest on

1:12:11Republic and GFL feel about that? Well, but before

1:12:19I'm I'd like to see the ordinance changed. Uh I

1:12:26about it. That my personal opinion, uh I think

1:12:32to make sure that everybody's playing with with

1:12:37moving forward. This is a 5year contract. Is that

1:12:42we can wait a session or two. It I agree. I agree.

1:12:52the hardship exemption option that was in your

1:12:59uh all elements of our current franchise model

1:13:06would be required to enact that would be a vote

1:13:13depending on how the votes line up on that.

1:13:19a more specific number of complaints if that's

1:13:24that today before you vote on it. So, um if if

1:13:32number of of complaint events, we can modify just

1:13:39I'd like to make that that motion. Uh and the

1:13:45so moved. I'll second that. I had the same

1:13:51favor say I. I. Because it's um a change to an

1:14:00that's a unanimous vote, then that happens as of

1:14:10Yeah. Okay. I just know that Dave, him and his

1:14:19all this stuff to reach out to different

1:14:29this is kind of like zoning ordinances. We

1:14:36think we need to move on this like you're

1:14:40um I can't Meridian's wonderful. They've done

1:14:47um and it's nothing like that. But I just know

1:14:54it sounds like to me the motion made is to change

1:15:00opt out but not to select a vendor today. Is that

1:15:07I I I didn't want to select a vendor, right? I'm

1:15:15Yeah. Okay. Then we'll have to have that back on

1:15:20a majority vote at the next meeting, then it'll be

1:15:26have it on the next meeting agenda. I'm sorry,

1:15:31was saying. So, it really didn't matter. It seems

1:15:37would press all the work they've done and just

1:15:42perfect perfect thing. Every time I've gotten

1:15:47they have jumped on it. Oh, yeah. time I've gotten

1:15:53mean, these are businesses. They got customer

1:15:58we put stuff into the our department directors

1:16:04listen to them. I don't do trash. I just take

1:16:09so that's a different too. So, okay. So, thank

1:16:20website update from uh our manager Heidi York.

1:16:27you a preview of a new website design that we have

1:16:34communication to our residents has been a goal of

1:16:40we have to provide uh information to folks who

1:16:48services who have questions. And so um we have

1:16:55enhance our communication efforts there. So I have

1:17:02morning. He's gonna u give you a preview of what

1:17:08morning, commissioners. Um, so the the homepage as

1:17:16one. Uh more color, bigger pictures. Um in the

1:17:24is the goal of that is to streamline so people

1:17:31get items we look for tend to get buried. So, if

1:17:37care of that. They can just type in what they

1:17:41the lower right hand corner, I might be blocking

1:17:48search. So, what you do is you click that and it

1:17:55the boundary of our website. A lot of our websites

1:18:01that, you are off our website and on our partners'

1:18:06engine stops. That's kind of like the breakin.

1:18:11request. It's a pretty streamlined process. Works

1:18:18the actual site site. So all of this isn't 100%

1:18:25to be a much easier process. Um let's see. Let

1:18:32down. So down here we have all the departments.

1:18:39fun more inter entertaining way to do things. Go

1:18:46Oh, I see it now. You can hit close on that. Yeah,

1:18:55Fun events. Scroll down some more, Mike. That's

1:19:01the bottom of the the page where it's contact

1:19:08all of that instead of having to go through the

1:19:13you try to put as much information two or three

1:19:19go up under government, go to the commissioners.

1:19:25of people. Um, scroll down. There's all your

1:19:31duties. Um, a lot of this information is just a

1:19:39we are really focusing on doing is growing the

1:19:46website is only good as the content that's on it.

1:19:53web editors. Uh, we have done training. We have

1:19:59to be the most informative website we can. Um, now

1:20:04to start growing more of the services to see if we

1:20:10if you go to the tax page, it's under property

1:20:22So, I just wanted to take a minute to show the tax

1:20:27of the website is not changing. It's just the look

1:20:34going to work identical. So, exactly. Um, so this

1:20:45almost a year. The website is ready to go live.

1:20:51days for it to replicate out. Um, the website name

1:20:57look and feel, pretty colors, better navigation.

1:21:03some more innovative materials to get to get

1:21:09any questions, let me know. Anyone any questions?

1:21:19um it was not as it was not very easy to navigate

1:21:29what I think are important items down a little

1:21:34want to get them I already have a ticket in to get

1:21:40work for the citizens. Okay. So all I like what

1:21:49next we have the county attorney's report. Um,

1:21:55Thank you for your time and for bearing

1:21:58uh, submitted the adopted ordinance to clerk

1:22:04county manager, a couple of announcements, uh,

1:22:09October is domestic violence awareness month.

1:22:15awareness about domestic violence. This actually

1:22:23October to be domestic violence awareness month.

1:22:29services will be hosting the annual candlelight

1:22:36reading the 50 the names of the 50 victims uh

1:22:41domestic violence so far in 2026. So, we hope to

1:22:47that going to be? Who? Um, Sky, what time? 6 PM in

1:22:56repeat that, please? 6 PM in front of the JB

1:23:0328th. Yes. And a couple of exciting announcements

1:23:13gracious recipient of a $5,000 donation from the

1:23:20uh to be used for re-imagining outdoor spaces.

1:23:26also presented last week with a $10,000 gift

1:23:32from their day of giving. So, we wanted to extend

1:23:38for their support of our parks and programs and

1:23:44had. Okay. So, we have uh commissioners comments

1:23:50Um first, I'd like to say that I have never ever

1:23:58uh second, I would like to uh correct something

1:24:04commissioner Poliola. Um I have refused to put

1:24:10Commissioner Priola and I have refused to remove a

1:24:16Priola. Thank you. Thank you. Uh so it's not

1:24:25has been uh multiple times that I have been asked

1:24:31uh it is a good idea and to leave it on there. And

1:24:44I I just feel like that u for

1:24:54uh we're missing a wonderful opportunity

1:24:58them to continue. Uh we have a process though

1:25:08uh go back and change that process would be

1:25:15we've made a change suggested change today. But

1:25:24to do what they're doing and the fantastic

1:25:31Commissioner Thompson. Um, the other

1:25:38uh, Josh down at EMS went to a place

1:25:45uh real strong support system program

1:25:56um hold on um suffering from some really

1:26:03never come back from war the way you went

1:26:07UNCC hospitals and all kind of other places. And

1:26:12But just just to give you one thing about it,

1:26:17from all different ranches and they had a

1:26:22go through learning about themselves. One guy

1:26:27you know, I had to look at myself. They had these

1:26:33about where they were. They they were all kind

1:26:37I had this this layer and my bottom part was I

1:26:44"I had to understand that the biggest part of

1:26:50um he he was something. But this one is they were

1:26:56marine maybe. And um he had mask and the outside

1:27:05me I have no creativity whatsoever." And I watched

1:27:10some people do that to deflect from what's

1:27:15his mask around and he had a mirror that he

1:27:21of different aspects of what he had been in the

1:27:25I see myself, but I'm all split up into sections.

1:27:32um what they had went through and and how they

1:27:38tremendous support of this program from anywhere

1:27:44help them with vertigo where there my son is home

1:27:50of Bradley's and explosions and everything like

1:27:56ankles. He's got that too. and um and it helped

1:28:01just vertigo. It's just it's just unbelievable

1:28:06thought I cannot wait for hopefully some of our

1:28:20I'm just gonna say this. I'm so glad I went out

1:28:27um Jeff from our veteran service office is amazing

1:28:32I'm so thankful that I got to go and Sky was

1:28:39have the leaders that we have in our county and

1:28:43us and really believe in them or we don't need to

1:28:49much longer. We take it hard. I'm not kidding you.

1:28:56um it was an amazing place that I went. I'm so

1:29:03stuff like that like I do. And um October domestic

1:29:10we would have almost 200 murder suicides. And to

1:29:16doing something right. And I'm just so proud of

1:29:22sees it. They go up on the most dangerous call

1:29:27wonder why kids act the way they do in school.

1:29:32we just got to keep getting better and

1:29:35serious. It's deadly. Sexual assault is

1:29:40um, thank God for law enforcement and the

1:29:44But thank God for our veterans because they've

1:29:49and don't have to. So that's it. Commissioner

1:30:00but I I want to make sure that I that my

1:30:07on what I've had the dealings I've had with GFL

1:30:14uh had a couple complaints about one of the three

1:30:24we we've got some good opportunities here. I

1:30:30the changes in our policy are going to require

1:30:38Do we need to review the applicants

1:30:43Well, staff has already done that and made

1:30:48public records at this point, so the board can

1:30:56and and the staff recommendation for franchise

1:31:01that's just the recommendation that's been made.

1:31:09what I thought I think Sam said. would like

1:31:17think everybody needs to have some feedback on the

1:31:24there going to be some questions there. So, yeah,

1:31:30We've had the first vote on a change to the

1:31:35chosen. We've also not chosen to go away from the

1:31:44just I I do want to make a short quick comment

1:31:52York. Uh there's a lot of hard work that went

1:31:56recognized. You've done a very good job. Uh you

1:32:02we can work on. Uh and I don't want my comments to

1:32:09done a good job. I'm looking forward to the the

1:32:16be considering. Thank you. Um I did want to say

1:32:23uh your departure? Uh we are losing Tony. Do

1:32:28or say to everyone? Uh he has done an excellent

1:32:36for every department. He's been put over and it is

1:32:42him. I think uh everyone is so fond of him because

1:32:48job he does for the county. So I'd like to give

1:32:58Chair Allen other than the fact that

1:33:01with everything else you said. All

1:33:08uh, I will accept a motion to adjurnn. So,

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