2026-08-03 - Board of Commissioners

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01:05through the summer. Going to call the

01:09Commissioners on August the 3. Uh, and I'm in

01:16if you'll all bow your heads. Dear Lord, you

01:22all knowing. you know our every thought and

01:28us to make the right decisions for Alamance

01:35forces and our emergency personnel and sheriffs

01:43our freedoms. In your mighty name we pray.

01:48pledge. [cough] I pledge algiance to the flag of

01:58for which it stands. One nation under God,

02:11I need a motion to approve the agenda. So

02:20Now we have the citizens comment. We only

02:27minutes. When you hear the timer go off, please

02:33your seat. And please be respectful of people in

02:39you can uh speak professionally

02:48[music] [laughter]

02:53I love a local government meeting, so you know.

03:00Hall River Keeper. I've worked on water quality in

03:05start by thanking you. You all calling a special

03:10it tells me that you're taking this seriously.

03:16research before that big meeting on the 17th.

03:21will be fundamental to this conversation. Water

03:27control. First, I want to be clear about scale.

03:33County has today. Smaller facilities about the

03:39next is different. hypers scale facilities built

03:46scale entirely. A single hypers scale facility

03:52for cooling. The daily use of a town of 30 to

03:59that it operates and a lot of that's evaporative

04:04streams. I also want to correct something

04:09use about as much water as a golf course. That

04:15against every golf course in the country. So, it's

04:22this county. Golf water use is spread thin over

04:29facility pulls millions of gallons a day from one

04:36draw on our water, not a diffuse one. Second is

04:43where this development belongs and conditions

04:48to say no to. Once a facility is cited and built,

04:55earlier and often quietly. A moratorum would

05:01next application lands on someone's desk. Third,

05:08storm water runoff from a project this size can

05:14Alamance County does not have its own delegated

05:20Salem Regional Office, and the state doesn't have

05:25the way a county program can. And I say that from

05:33And what we get back is little to no enforcement

05:39So by the time anyone responds, the damage is

05:45suffocates an aquatic ecosystem. It settles over

05:50and reproduce, and it drowns the habitat in mud.

05:57program would change that. You have inspectors

06:03you to think about these three policies ahead of

06:18Okay. I'll just say ditto. Um but I'm going to

06:27um I live on Moral Mill uh road and that 450

06:343 to 5 million gallons of water that that

06:40speaks to to the fact that we need planning.

06:46the county and the policies of the county um is

06:52might help the developer with maximum profits,

06:58um at all to have those decisions made outside

07:04on Kevin Sasser's um development, it's all single

07:12uh different parts of the country and

07:17um, what would have maybe worked best on

07:21but maybe some low-rise sixlexes for rental. So,

07:29be a step up for them or could offer a step up

07:35the development, but the county so far doesn't

07:42I think that's just one element, but I've been on

07:47lot of intelligent people on YouTube that really

07:53including data centers. Um, but data centers

07:58don't have zoning. Um, so I would just urge you

08:05uh planning department is working hard to u try

08:12elements to it um than what they're looking at. Uh

08:20the main things that I would look at um because I

08:27to do if Kevin Sasser's development sucks our

08:33the profits if when that happens but so far nobody

08:41even wants to consider the water use of these mega

08:47five unit uh developments I'm talking about these

08:53keep in your mind 3 to 5 million gallons per

09:01how big the aqua aquifer is or if it's just Kevin

09:06aquifer I'm drawing from. But anyway, this all

09:12to have their way and everything else is not a

09:18department comes before you, do some research on

09:26um have three minutes to respond back

09:32Commissioner Thompson, you want to start? Yeah,

09:36strong voice of that for our community. He is

09:42to break down. And also, I'd like to ask um

09:49erosion, all that. Where are you? Okay. [laughter]

09:55out of the county, out of the state? How does

10:00sure. Okay. Um because the county doesn't have

10:05get reported to the North Carolina Department

10:10Winston Taylor. So we'll report, you know, dozens

10:16weeks later. Other counties have locally delegated

10:21can charge permit fees and self- sustaining

10:28So would that be under one of our departments or

10:32it's a it's under your department. It would be

10:37program that is owned and operated by Alag County

10:44be under health department. No, it would be under

10:49counties have it underwater resources. They

10:55and storm water is kind of nestled under that

11:00and the county has storm water either though.

11:05there that it would be a new program al probably

11:10We'll look into that. That's important later. It's

11:19how to start that program. I'm on the state

11:28Thank you. Yeah. Um both of the issues brought

11:38and you know Alamance County has um escaped

11:46in the state um have chosen to do that. So where

11:58zoning as a county or is this something that uh

12:07you know, with all the landfill issues and

12:14it's pointing out to us increasingly that there

12:20we don't have uh zoning. That's not the only

12:28um I think that we're going to have to take a look

12:36by this board to be a liaison to the planning

12:45the unified development ordinance. They're

12:53to finish that up. Then they will bring it to this

13:04uh zoning as an option for Alamance County. But I

13:12and doing something that may not be appropriate

13:17community and sharing with the community what it

13:23would ina entail. So I u I think what for us to as

13:35we have to have the unified development ordinance

13:44feedback from the community. I think that it

13:49just jump into something. Uh we need to really

13:57that we're we're really going to need to do as

14:03I'll just follow along here. Um we are looking at

14:11um Matthew Hogland, our planner and zoner

14:17um said that we didn't have any bite any teeth to

14:24where we could get some teeth in them and that

14:30a zoning brought previously maybe 10 years ago to

14:38it. And this is something that's going to affect

14:44be really, really careful what we do and even

14:51courthouse like we're going to do August the 17th

14:57think people realize is we cannot make anything

15:02we don't like this development, so we're going

15:07illegal. We cannot do that. Um, also, um, my

15:1538 years and water usage and saving water and

15:23everything we have, shower and everything is

15:29didn't leave a spot on while you were brushing

15:36about the environment. I'm very concerned

15:43So, um, we've got to just be, we've got to

15:49for everybody and we've got to get a lot of input

15:58you know, all three of hit the issues I think that

16:03our uniform development ordinance and our heavy

16:09one of the things we're talking about is some

16:14some controls on what kind of industry can

16:19that's one of the issues we ran into

16:26get that done first and then figure out what

16:33I mean, the environment, uh, I think if anybody

16:37our environment. We have some of the best parks

16:44take good care of them. We want to keep them in

16:48and we don't want anything damaging the homes

16:54are our neighbors, of course. Um, so I think

17:01get teeth that we can enforce in the ordinances

17:07that might be. Mr. G, I don't have a lot a whole

17:16I do think taking the time to to figure out

17:21quick expeditious path to the loudest voices

17:27need to figure out what the details are of

17:34centers. I don't think we any we've got any

17:40real proposals on the books at this point. Uh so

17:48the best thing. Those are my comments. Okay. So uh

17:56agenda. All those in favor say I. I. I. Okay.

18:08Um was Brad Pan. Okay. Right. I can't even see

18:18over here for you. You want me to hold your

18:22readers off. From here out, you're a blur.

18:27everybody? Good. Fine. How are you? Good. Thank

18:33as I come every year now, uh to do our annual

18:38the next few moments talking through the tax

18:41order to of charge for the come upcoming year

18:47offs of the 2016 taxes. Here are a few of the

18:54I'm going through it or definitely at the end I'll

19:00the first thing we'll do today is I will give

19:05to receive the order of collection. um showing you

19:09and that sort of thing. Also ask for your approval

19:16becomes 10 years old or older, we cannot enforce

19:21the policy of this board to write those taxes

19:26efforts be feudal in that way. And then finally

19:34the collections process. June, you all established

19:39at the end of July here, and hopefully you

19:43uh recently, we sent those bills out. August

19:49get a 0.5% discount uh for paying your

19:55are due on September the 1st. A lot of

19:58but it's actually September 1 when they

20:04interest starts acrewing if you haven't paid

20:08process and that sort of thing all the way

20:14annual tax collection settlement uh looks as

20:25to collect uh through some releases um as

20:32Uh our total net levy or to be collected

20:39this time or as of the date that this

20:46outstanding. Now that number has changed a bit

20:48since I created this report.

20:56Our DMV, as you all know, is a separate process

21:01of our unregistered motor vehicles and things,

21:05uh that division and they send the county

21:09those folks is 99.7. You can see the levy

21:18This shows you the collection history and

21:22amount looks like. Uh this year once again was

21:27continuously gone up uh with differences uh

21:32that. Tax rates being changed uh can

21:39I [snorts] think it's important to

21:42rate that this county has as far as I

21:47um at least in the last 25 years. And so we

21:52the the highest that we've had ever. And so we're

21:57the work that those folks in my tax collection

22:04also over the last 5 years what that trend

22:11that's really kind of a tough one because that is

22:16uh handled a little bit differently at that time.

22:19the last couple years. We've seen a really

22:23again completely contributable to the staff

22:30Here is our sim similar county comparison. Uh

22:36that are similar in population, previous year's

22:42we're at the top of the list finally. So I felt

22:46third and so we wanted to to take control of

22:52worked really hard to make sure that they did all

22:56all of their comparative counties. Positive

23:04to ramp up our delinquent enforcement procedures.

23:08bills on time and if they don't, we do have those

23:13full advantage of those and trying to utilize

23:18enhanced. We're doing that a few times a year

23:22And so once that delinquent date hits, we start

23:27we've changed some of our machines. Uh we now

23:32will accept things like Apple Pay and that

23:36the younger generation like. Um so we we're

23:40well. [snorts] Once again, that's my collections

23:47about how wonderful their staff is, but the

23:54So, these ladies do a heck of a job as do as

23:59but they've done a heck of a job this year

24:05The charge off request this year. So, that's the

24:10off request this year for those taxes u for 2016

24:18baked into that number is about a $58,000 uh one

24:25is because it was a property tax commission

24:30have been written off before we ever got to this

24:34that. I noticed this year that our number was a

24:38that's why that that exists. Uh there's nothing we

24:43um that that should have still been in existence

24:51Is that a It it is not. It is not. It was a It

24:56decision that was made back in 2019. Um and then

25:02there was some hold up at that point. I'm not

25:06I just know it was still on the books and should

25:14Is it auctioned? I mean, how does that work?

25:19Yeah. So that that since it was a court case, the

25:24and that so that that amount should have never

25:33And then finally is uh the order to collect. I

25:38upcoming year's taxes. And so I'm just asking that

25:43collect the taxes for the upcoming year. And with

25:54We have pushed um for people to get the

25:59people coming in and asking and requesting about

26:05I would say more and more and more. it seems like

26:10continue to go up and so those who need it

26:15have an income issue with that whole program

26:20wish I could because I would change it. Yeah,

26:32Okay. Anybody else? All right. I need

26:39taxes. So move. All those in favor? I need a

26:46I 50. We need to approve the charge off as

26:55make that motion. All right. All second.

27:02all. All right. Thank you. Is that all you

27:09Okay. And our next presentation is the body

27:24Good morning, commissioners. Good morning. And

27:29body warn cameras uh that we've asked for for

27:36the money for the county to allocate. But

27:42have issued 248 body warn cameras. Now unlike

27:50go through the training and understand

27:57total videos created by bodywn cameras and

28:0916,682 of this was bodywn cameras. Now we have

28:22sure our people following f proper procedure.

28:29something involving an officer it will be there.

28:39having a tough time uh you know trying to review

28:46people, two lieutenants to handle the viewing of

28:55were properly uh performing their duties as a law

29:03what now the you said 625 25 videos per day video

29:13what did I say hours no you said videos [laughter]

29:22uh we're averaging over 2,000 calls for service

29:29answered 2273 calls for service. That means that

29:38right now, we're trying to review as many as we

29:46uh you know, as far as officer's actions or

29:54uh policy, a lot of people think you just put a

30:01don't view a video until something major happens.

30:10our people are doing correctly in whatever they

30:16on in an interaction? Hey, it better be on uh

30:22video better be on on uh the body warn camera.

30:28the detention officer? Yeah. So essentially when

30:34and it doesn't go off until they go off duty,

30:40turn on the cameras every time they go into the

30:46have incar cameras and once they get out their

30:51we're at the 625 videos are per day that um that

31:00affairs division. Um a captain and a lieutenant

31:05administrative level of review where we review

31:11standpoint, we're looking for any training errors,

31:16professional standards, the captain and lieutenant

31:21so forth to answer any type of citizen complaints

31:26chief and the sheriff. And just just to be clear,

31:32to turn it on when they exit the car. So certain

31:38like the blue lights once uh they come on the car

31:45certain things that if we're not running there in

31:50the body cam on and the policy addresses uh if

32:01Thank you, Chair. Did we interrupt you or what

32:09going on right now. And like I say, we do thank

32:14And uh like I say, we got policy that has been

32:22And uh you know, we're going to continue to try

32:28to give us more manpower to be able to do that.

32:33to try to review as many as we possibly can or if

32:40one of our officers. Are these two people that are

32:46kind of like the folks on Invictus that we have

32:51He can speak on that now. So, I have training in

32:56child exploitation cases where I do have computer

33:03lot. Just want to make sure you get there ready,

33:10Once again, thank you for allocating those monies.

33:17investigator Weaguer. Uh you're going to talk to

33:25the front page about it um that you're helping

33:32and other things. Yes. So, I am Detective Waguer

33:36within the major crimes division. Um, I'm going to

33:41scams within Alamance County. Um, and kind

33:47what we're doing to prevent it, what people can do

33:52with just our county, the last 20 months, we

33:58that does not include frauds that didn't go to

34:02able to work on their own. So 430 frauds assigned

34:09division specifically. Um the average loss for the

34:17those 430 cases is $33,000. Cumulatively within

34:28So, how are they investigated? The average length

34:33weeks, but it can be months to up to a year just

34:40the investigation gets. We really solve these

34:45based off doing search warrants. The average

34:49fraud is three. Now, the results depend on who

34:55a search warrant to can take one to two weeks to

35:01to 180 days. And I've h I've had them take up

35:07that's just how long it takes. They've got a a

35:12they're waiting to get done themselves. Once we

35:17the individual's information that we got back is

35:23into a lot of times when someone's money goes into

35:29we get back on the suspects or what we thought to

35:34victim. They have overtaken that person's account

35:40opposed to the victim using it. So, we have to

35:45to three more search warrants and getting in

35:49the process. Once we finally reach the end of

35:56we have to determine one, do we have a suspect,

36:01what are the charges? With frauds, there's a

36:07uh, bank accounts, wires, the type of property

36:13the probable cause is for that, and we swear out

36:18now is the cryptocurrency scams. Um that involves

36:24and say you've got warrants, you've missed jury

36:29either gift cards, go to one of the kiosks that

36:34the county. Um when we investigate those, the

36:41victim is the receipts that those machines give

36:47Sometimes it's in the form of a QR code. you can't

36:52But we need those because we can decode them such

36:59have that wallet ID, the only thing we have to

37:04that they contacted the victim on initially.

37:09numbers which make that exceptionally difficult.

37:15public data. It's just all encoded in such a way

37:22lot of time and the money moves really quickly

37:27law enforcement to attempt to ID anyone associated

37:32an exchange. That being Cash App, Vinmo, Coinbase,

37:40many times the transactions don't go through an

37:44cold wallet, which we can't do anything if it goes

37:49and sometimes that money won't move for weeks

37:56sometimes it goes to an exchange that's out of the

38:00cooperate with us. So, we just don't have the

38:06And again, we have to revert back to the phone

38:10the victim. Unfortunately, right now, and this

38:16the likelihood of money being returned in these

38:22recently signed a bill that did change the way

38:30delay in a new customer or a current customer

38:37things like that, but we haven't been able

38:42just so recently signed. Um we have had success

38:48issue is we can't go international to pick them

38:52here and once they get here hopefully they get

39:00do to protect themsel? The three biggest things I

39:06which is approximately an hour, an hour and a

39:11is the biggest issue here. When someone answers

39:16into whoever this scammer is, that's their

39:22Do not believe anyone who tells you that you

39:27cards, money transfers through Cash App, Venmo

39:33tell you to pay at the gas station specifically

39:39is the specific gas station they send individuals

39:45They say it's a federal payment kiosk where you

39:51one that I've probably had 30 to 40 cases with

40:00asks you to pay over the phone for anything,

40:04loved one, or a law enforcement officer to verify

40:10in this county that's going to be upset at you

40:14call. Somebody wants me to pay in a gift card. Can

40:19uh any of our guys and girls will come immediately

40:24money because especially in the gift cards,

40:29but I'll speak to the gift cards in just a second.

40:35doing fraud presentations at community centers

40:40social media posts with updates on current scams.

40:46that someone may be a victim of fraud. Now, I was

40:52they ask for come primarily from either Food Line

40:58you know, without any training say, "Hey, what's

41:03gift cards, but a lot of times individuals just

41:08uncomfortable scenario with someone." But it's

41:12to say, "Hey, why are you buying six individual

41:18the phone with somebody? And refusing that sale

41:24it just doesn't feel right is okay. These store

41:29refusing the sale of that is okay if you believe

41:34business owners on the signs to look for within

41:40Um, a lot of times in bigger businesses, say

41:45someone will take the checks that they get

41:50them. And it's not a lot of money. It's not a

41:55$300 there. So, keeping a close look on these

42:02ongoing fraud. I've had them where the individual

42:07of four years they lost $20 and some odd thousand

42:12just didn't notice it at the time. Um, quickly I'm

42:17just signed. Um, it only does so much in terms of

42:28for legitimate purposes. The amount of people

42:33in cryptocurrency versus those that are going

42:39to one. They use these kiosks because it's easy.

42:45send that barcode to an elderly individual who

42:49These individuals, I've had 18year-olds that got

42:56states like Tennessee have recently passed banning

43:02exist in the state of Tennessee. They're not

43:06you have to do it through another online portion

43:11as in, you know, kind of know what they're

43:15dropped dramatically. That is something that

43:20um it would do a lot more good than just limiting

43:27still leaves an individual with losing $12,000

43:33and as I said, just there's the amount of people

43:38does not outweigh the benefits of keeping them. I

43:43greatly appreciate you letting me come out here

43:47scams. Does anybody have any questions? Yes

43:55where you can. Yes sir. [clears throat] But we

44:02So we do focus on catching the perpetrator.

44:07in these frauds and cryptocurrency scams, the

44:14want to try and get these people's money back as

44:20identifying the suspects takes such a long time

44:25first and then as we go through the process of the

44:31are most of these suspects local or are they

44:40on the type of crime? Um do we even know? We we

44:47specifically the over the phone warrant scam, we

44:52are in the United States and most of them

44:56called the Georgia prison scam. A lot of those

45:00are inmates in the Georgia prison system. Um and

45:08um the relationship scams, the long-term scams

45:16in love with someone you've never met on the phone

45:20are in India. Um and those are roundthe-clock jobs

45:26to 5 and then switch off with somebody who's just

45:31Yes. I know you've seen Dr. feel catfishing.

45:40people will believe anything if they really want

45:46at Dollar General, Eli Whitney of all places. And

45:52she or whatever. Didn't meet her. Thank goodness.

45:58believe things because certain generations

46:03you their word and um and I said if somebody

46:08and a truck the and a truck should have told you

46:14people so badly. Um I just are you you're tied

46:22I just want to thank you. I'm so glad we had this

46:28played and lose generally their life because of

46:36once that my son was in Dominican Republic. He

46:41at jail. Granny, can you send me $10,000 in wire

46:46would never be in a wedding. Yeah. You know,

46:50they're they're this is what they do and this is

46:56want crypto prison. That's what I'm talking about.

47:03people in prison so much that we give them too

47:08outside world to still manage to screw people and

47:14prison scenario, they are allowed. I mean, they're

47:20corrupt there that they will bring the cell phones

47:25had individuals where they've requested Sephora

47:31Door Dash gift cards, and they're just sending it

47:35the outside um cuz they it doesn't really make any

47:41in that are life sentence inmates in Georgia.

47:46not often times worried about a class H felony

47:50a life sentence in Georgia. Um but thankfully we

47:56of times that they're using their crypto accounts,

48:01Well, I know just to brag on our jail, um I had

48:06a treatment center in Wayne County and they were

48:11my cell phone approved to go in because I am no

48:18can happen on that cell phone in and out of that

48:24here because um you can put a hit on somebody

48:30obviously going to be great at this. I'm glad

48:34anybody about the Publishers Clearing House? My

48:38from the Publishers Clearing House and she won

48:45was laughing about it. She posted it and said,

48:50"But if they show up, I'll remember y'all."

48:55fraud. That is the largest case I have right now

49:01over the course of four years. Um, how many

49:10Anybody else? Yeah, I I've got a question. Over

49:17between one and 200 uh voicemails and and texts

49:27help with my taxes. Uh and it's a different

49:32I'm sure somebody in some other country uh is

49:39because I I don't answer them, but I get the

49:44to. Whom do I report that information? [cough]

49:49they are incredibly annoying. Like you said,

49:54phone calls because they just they always use

49:59an app on the phones. They have roocall apps

50:04you won't even see it ring on your phone. It'll

50:08it come through. You're able to go into that app

50:13this actually somebody I know's number that's just

50:18for you so that you don't get those calls as

50:27there's only so much we can do. We can't do very

50:32blocking the number and just not answering is the

50:37calls come constantly. That's why I recommend

50:42up your phone all the time. Well, do you know

50:47report spam and delete. Uh, is there some uh

50:57you can report that information to that that'll

51:02not really. Um there used to be the idea that you

51:07"Put me on the do not call list when you answer."

51:13a real thing, but 95% of the individuals

51:18you. So there is no do not call list. Um and

51:23oh this is a good phone number and somebody does

51:28call. So this scam may not work but maybe

51:32That's why I recommend just not answering

51:37you know just moving along um or getting that

51:46All right. Thank you very much. We appreciate it.

51:51And we have the tourism development

51:55here? Did you want to speak to us?

52:12Good morning, commissioners. Um so yes, you

52:18tourism development authority. Um we had uh

52:24uh apply for both of the um positions for our

52:31um tourism representative. Um the uh chamber did

52:40and also uh Tracy Schmidt um to be uh appointed

52:50those watches. Second. All those in favor? I

52:59I don't know Tracy and I know and highly respect

53:06um it's kind of one of those things when your

53:10and they retire and you get a new pastor,

53:15row, they walk away. And so I just um that's

53:21some time is good whenever you come off such a

53:26because like Bonnie Whitaker, I talked to her

53:30friends and I respect her highly and that's

53:40[clears throat] All right. So, um I think now

53:49Nothing from me this morning. Okay. Good morning,

53:56quarter financial reports um that Susan provides

54:01we're happy to answer those. And I also wanted

54:06awareness month, child support awareness um or

54:12department of social services here. This month

54:18support services play in promoting the well-being

54:23They help strengthen family stability and create

54:28community. To recognize child support awareness

54:35each commissioner to wear throughout the month

54:41and professionals who make this important work

54:46this morning. Um I needed to ask you a question.

54:53building u may need a booster or SECOM or for the

55:02building and I'm understanding that it's $25

55:09about CCOM or them telling them that they need

55:17uh and the man under him that were talking to him

55:22to have the booster to pick up the signal. I don't

55:27We've not heard that, but happy to look into that.

55:33thank you. Because that's a big expense. Is that

55:41and you know they're saying that when they

55:47penetrate far enough into the new addition and so

55:53for that. Who is they? Which one? However, um they

56:00on and they've been down there Johnny paying

56:04just told that this week I'll do some digging

56:11else adding on like um village of Alamance, you

56:16building a new building and they may have the same

56:22find out before we get three or four telling

56:30All right. So now we have uh commissioner

56:36here. Thank you. Nothing for me. How about you?

56:46It's about committees and selection of committees.

56:52municipalities recommend someone um they do

57:00that kind of thing. It seems like a real mutual

57:06just can't place their person on that particular

57:13What is that? That's not the way the ordinance is

57:19by ordinance uh 20 some odd years ago and the

57:25make uh suggestions that the municipalities that

57:34board has the final approval as to who's on the

57:39an ordinance and I do think it's roughly 20 years

57:44it seems like whoever sometimes people recommend

57:51of how that works. Yeah, that's because of the

57:55this board has the right to appoint whoever they

58:00I do think the people that are appointed by this

58:04they represent, but it can be anyone from that

58:11Well, okay. And and one I'm sorry, Kelly, go

58:17zoning and um I think the word jumping. Kelly,

58:23Uh jumping into stuff. This is Lord, we've been

58:31Mill. That's how we've got landfills. That's how

58:36something to get even bigger because um for some

58:41said we got to get more bite into our ordinances

58:48got to be willing to bite. So, um I just don't

58:55a thing ready to just get really ticked off that

59:00states about centers and we really need to know

59:06kind of decision. They may be the best thing since

59:10opinion. And so, uh, I just want to make sure that

59:17us and years past, not just this group, has gotten

59:22into communities that didn't have a choice.

59:27don't think that's how we need to do things. I saw

59:32was very I mean you know my kid going over there

59:38school board we did the IB program at Williams and

59:44my kids went to Williams and some people from

59:48with those thugs that's just how it is how it's

59:53IB program was open they lined up because it's a

59:59for your kids so um I just want us to research

1:00:04see if something like that is right for Elements

1:00:10big issues. We're a little Almetz County, but

1:00:15it's here. They love us for some reason. So, but

1:00:21Um and um tell jumping in off of that. That's why

1:00:30for us to put a moratorum and I've really been

1:00:36a lot of opinions out there on it. Um some good,

1:00:43why we asked to get that moratorum so that we

1:00:49um, sometimes someone has only been on a committee

1:00:56committee appointment is, but they show up every

1:01:04and so if it's someone, a lot of people get

1:01:10people here that have committees could, you know,

1:01:14and then they don't show up anymore. it's

1:01:17it was going to be. So sometimes when you have

1:01:24two or three times showing that they are very

1:01:29I think if someone's there and everybody says,

1:01:33They show up every meeting we have." Then you

1:01:38especially if they're saying they're giving them

1:01:44Anybody else? I'll accept a motion to adjurnn.

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