2026-09-08 - Board of Commissioners

Summary

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  • Regular morning meeting of the Board of Commissioners, Monday, September 8, 2026, chaired by Kelly Allen; adjourned at about 1:14:08 into the recording.
  • The board approved the agenda and the consent agenda by voice vote.

Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk and public comment on each topic):

Topic Minutes Share
2027 Property Revaluation 36 49%
Library Advisory Committee Appointments 19 26%
County vehicle replacement policy 6 8%
Other business 13 18%

Library Advisory Committee Appointments

2:44-21:47

  • Public comment was almost entirely about the library committee. Beth Leman (name as captioned) objected that nominations from the city councils were passed over, asked that trustees be chosen on library and community qualifications, and asked that the board's library liaison be changed.
  • A second speaker (not named in the captions) said the board had overridden municipal recommendations, citing the Mebane city council's 5-member-vote recommendation of two nominees (names garbled, roughly "Melissa Tats" and "Kayla Schily") that the board rejected in favor of two others, and criticized past committee members' views on library content.
  • A speaker who said she was recently appointed to the library committee (apparently Bonnie Whitaker; unconfirmed) defended the new parental-advisory labeling policy, described the online backlash and harassment she had received, and thanked commissioners for their handling of the appointments.
  • Another speaker argued the county-municipal library partnership depends on respecting the recommendations of the cities that fund and house the libraries, and asked the board to restore that practice.
  • The clerk read a letter from Hannah Keys (name as captioned) opposing book challenges and criticizing Kelly Allen, arguing that access to age-appropriate sexuality and consent books protects children.
  • Commissioners replied briefly: Ed Priola (captioned "Briola") said views were already well known; others said the board follows its normal process for choosing committee members, noted the county pays for the library staff (about 63 or 64 employees) and that the buildings are city-owned. A speaker, apparently a commissioner (not identified), asked again for the labeling policy to be placed on a future agenda so it can be discussed; no action was taken.

2027 Property Revaluation

22:37-58:08

  • The county tax administrator (first name Brad; surname not captioned) and an appraisal vendor representative opened the 2027 revaluation. State law requires reappraisal at least every 8 years; this board moved the county to a 4-year cycle. He stressed that new values do not automatically mean higher tax bills, because the rate is set separately by the board.
  • Staff asked the board to consider the 2027 schedule of values (the manual of land, building and income rates). It is on file for inspection, a notice ran September 10, and a public hearing was set for October 19, with adoption expected then and a notice of adoption to follow; the farm-use schedule is adopted separately from state figures.
  • The county contracted with Vincent Valuations (also involved in the 2023 revaluation) for appraisal and appeals support. Staff described five steps: field data collection, sales analysis (valid arm's-length sales only, generally no more than two years back), neighborhood delineation, building the schedule, and statistical ratio testing before notices are mailed, expected around February 2027. The valuation date is January 1, 2027.
  • Commissioners asked how apartments and commercial property are valued (income and cap-rate approach), how neighborhoods are drawn, whether recent listing-price cuts signal a cooling market (staff saw some cooling but would not cite percentages), how easements and unbuildable land are treated, and about aerial change-detection flyovers planned this winter.
  • Staff explained a state appeals case (captioned "Blige" or "Blish Housing") in which an apartment complex partly owned by an exempt nonprofit won exemption from property tax on the whole property; they said a bill to close the gap failed in the legislature and that the county could lose on the order of $1 million a year in tax (figures uncertain). Ten community town halls have been held, with more planned.

County vehicle replacement policy

58:08-1:03:47

  • A staff member presented updates to the 2023 fleet replacement policy, which sets mileage and condition guidelines for replacing county vehicles. Funds have been short, so vehicles have been rotated from heavily used departments such as the sheriff's office to lower-use ones.
  • Proposed thresholds were raised to roughly 135,000 miles for cars, trucks and vans and 160,000 for pursuit and patrol vehicles (as captioned); ambulance criteria were unchanged. Staff said a vote was not required, and the board appeared to approve by voice vote.

Other business

  • The consent agenda was approved (21:47).
  • A human services staff member recognized child-welfare professionals for the September observance and announced a grand opening of the new human services center on Friday, September 18, noon to 4 PM, at the Graham-Hopedale Road complex, and recognized a local appointee (surname Barber) to the state crisis system of care council.
  • Commissioner comments: praise for a tour of a Burlington water facility and for the staff running it; congratulations to the schools on progress cutting the number of low-performing schools to about 10 of 33 (Sam Powell among those speaking); a commissioner reported receiving voter registration mailers addressed to a family member who never lived in North Carolina and asked the board to follow up with the elections board; and a discussion of how commissioners are assigned to the many outside boards and the time that takes.

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00:56Alamance County is pleased to present the

01:04Okay, we're going to call the uh meeting of

01:08September 8th meeting to order. The invocation

01:18Let's bow our heads, please. Thank you, Lord,

01:23room. I just thank you so much for this county.

01:29where we've seen so much division. It's always

01:34against brother. I just pray that we will

01:38always put you first in every decision that

01:42self and our pride take over. Forgive us of our

01:46always make the best decisions. In your name

01:54I aliance to the flag of the United

02:01for which it stands. One nation under God,

02:14Next, I need the approval of the agenda.

02:20favor? I. Motion passes. Next is the public

02:27for three minutes. Uh we ask that you

02:32a professional meeting. Um and you have three

02:38please finish the sentence you're on and

02:44speak is Beth Leman. I'm right here.

03:00So, my issue that I'd like to speak about today is

03:06nominations for the positions of library trustees

03:12whether they applied or not. Our city councils

03:19not considering them, the Alamance County

03:24to fulfill an agenda. This agenda has shown

03:32over materials rather than allowing parents

03:40It's getting harder and harder just in general

03:47everyone can afford one of these or access

03:54to compound that challenge, the commission has

04:03to choose trustees who are all on the same page of

04:15library professionals. We need trustees, a group

04:23library services. They understand access to

04:31the public. A commission that bypasses the

04:38careful thought by multiple groups and chooses

04:45their overall district and the towns that make up

04:53community is a hard job. I understand. But that

05:02overall team is larger than just five people.

05:10the same. We don't want our commissioners

05:16serves the public by providing materials for

05:24are taking away from us by not following the

05:31I ask that library trustees are chosen based

05:39current liaison to the library be changed since

05:47have a personal agenda that is out of alignment

05:54core of any community and it serves the whole

06:02that community overall. Thank you. Thank

06:14Thank you. The public record shows that

06:18used its appointment power to override municipal

06:24records reflect socially conservative positions

06:29and library content. In 2023, Cheryl Sanford

06:36at May Memorial Library. Her library committee

06:40of Christian Bible Fellowship and an AWA lead

06:47incumbent recommended for retention, the county

06:52vice chair of the library committee and a leading

06:56materials containing mature themes. The committee

07:01subsequently approved the policy. The pattern

07:07unanimously recommended Melissa Tats and Kayla

07:12county commission rejected both recommendations

07:17instead. Burns had previously opposed Meban's

07:22and equity, describing equity as forced fairness.

07:28willing to depart from municipal recommendations

07:32a particular social and political viewpoint. This

07:39The county commission's authority does not

07:44constituency or one set of cultural values. It

07:50Commissioners have a responsibility to ensure

07:57responsive to the full community they serve,

08:02cultural, or social views differ from those

08:06The issue is not whether commissioners may hold

08:10them. They may. The issue is whether public

08:15segment of the community while diminishing

08:20towards correcting the balance would be to

08:23library committee. I will continue to hold

08:28when they put politics over people. people

08:33on right now in this community to preserve

08:54Hello. Since my appointment to the Alamance County

09:02scrutiny. The new Alamance County policy for

09:09created an uproar. Our desire for busy parents,

09:19and engaged parents is to let you know if a book

09:26movies, music, and video games, parents use labels

09:34know our children best. We know what fits their

09:42controversial and discriminatory. 30 people truck

09:49a half years and loudly complain about the policy

09:55attorney, and unanimously adopted by our county

10:01the public and posted on social media. Entire

10:08of our new book labeling policy. Friends send me

10:16receive as a result because of my volunteer

10:22record in that role. Facebook posts have been

10:30There are several considerations for appointments

10:35have applicants lived in Elements County based

10:42do they have an axe to grind? Do they plan to

10:50the library committee, I have a respectful working

10:56whether we agree on everything or not. Based on

11:04I thank the commissioners for their thoughtful

11:09and conflict we witnessed today to be codified

11:17angry, I understand if this makes you

11:23speech. It is just speech you hate. It is quite

11:30it is Democratic party operatives that plan

11:37you again to all the county commissioners for

11:54Good morning, chair and board of

11:58and I want to speak today about the relationship

12:02and the Alamance County Library System and

12:07been a partnership. Our municipalities provide and

12:13our residents, while Alamance County provides

12:18That partnership is reflected in the very

12:24Graham, Mban each have their own designated

12:28that those members are recommended by their

12:34county commissioners do have the final approval

12:39the has respected the recommendations made

12:44changed. Mebane City's council carefully considered

12:50recommended Melissa Titz and Kayla Schily by a 5

12:56both recommendations and substituted two different

13:03so I think that this needs to be asked a very very

13:08specifically given the responsibility

13:12what does that what do those recommendations mean

13:18isn't about whether the commissioners have

13:22do. It's about respecting the partnership that

13:28truly Mebban seats, if they're truly Burlington

13:34elected municipal governments should have the

13:40communities. Unless there is a compelling reason

13:45I believe this board should respect those

13:49system works because county and municipalities

13:56restore the tradition of cooperation and trust.

14:01forward and thank you all for your time this

14:20I will be reading a public comment from Hannah

14:25her words. I'm writing today because I'm concerned

14:31In recent challenges, several books centered on

14:35were flagged for explicit sexual content. One

14:41relationship, sexuality, and consent included a

14:47be too young. As a survivor of childhood sexual

14:52about consent. My assault happened when I was

14:56an adult. Why? Because my parents kept me in the

15:01what sex was. I only knew that when sexual topics

15:07I was confused and literally did not have the

15:12what I did learn was very negative. I was told

15:16I was told that my body was to blame if a boy

15:21modestly. I was told that rape made you broken and

15:26anything else. Do you think that these messages

15:31Not at all. Luckily, when I was 10 years old, I

15:36history. So, I Googled my questions. I read

15:41I talked to other girls in forums. As I began to

15:46what my parents or my church allowed me to see, I

15:52you forever. It's just a normal part of human

15:58to feel ashamed of, not survivors. Understanding

16:03a friend and begin healing. In a 2022 article by

16:10who submitted the content review request for the

16:15um, "I don't think that reading in a book,

16:19is how I want them to learn about sexuality. I

16:24if the people at home don't want to teach them?

16:28abusing them? What if the people at home have

16:33how to broach the topic? Since our culture has

16:38founded. Because knowledge is power. Because all

16:42equal access. And to protect our children from

16:47wellness. People like Cheryl Sanford and Lindseay

16:52care about controlling them, molding them to

16:56they're flagging books for witchcraft, too. I am

17:01of Miss Kelly Allen to enable their nonsense. I'm

17:06his own constituents over this issue. You must

17:11uncensored. Thank you, Hannah Keys. Thank you.

17:18have three minutes that they can make a

17:28Well, I I've heard little new today about

17:34commentary has been about it. Uh it's

17:39genuine disagreements quite clear and

17:46my views are pretty well known on the subject

17:51library system. So, I'll just leave it at that

18:05just for the record it is a library

18:15as uh Commissioner Briola stated

18:22we have the uh obligation to our to our

18:29believe serve the community the way these

18:35that's what we try to do. But I think that's sums

18:44uh 63 or 64 employees of the library salary and

18:54I think that should be brought up too that we do

19:02Yeah. I'd just say we have a process for choosing

19:09and commissions that is appropriate used by most

19:17commission. I think it was a month ago that um I

19:26this is concerning and how old it was and it's 20

19:32on the agenda. I spoke um to admin about it and

19:38but hopefully it would be on the agenda next time

19:45can happen with with leadership, government, the

19:51each other through a public comment. Um, it's like

19:58your son in and he's done some stuff but he's

20:03on the stick and that front desk person has got to

20:09can't talk about things when we're really ticked

20:14Um, I I don't understand how and I've I've looked

20:20in stuff like this and committees and boards and

20:24or the other. That's just not going to work. We

20:31to ask again if we can put this policy about what

20:37agenda so we can talk about this and work through

20:44um, when emotions get involved in stuff and

20:50gets to be about something else, not about the

20:55was in Meban the other week and I saw the Meban

21:00I'm glad we didn't have to pay for that because I

21:06Graham because that's a big amount of building and

21:10it. That's a real gift that they're giving us and

21:17we just really need this issue to be discussed in

21:24exactly what we're looking at because um policies

21:29not going to be the end of the world. They

21:33people with no vision will perish. And that's what

21:39um that's it. I'm asking again for this to be put

21:47the consent agenda. Motion to approve. All those

21:53I I. Now we go to the presentations and other

22:02values and I believe that is our tax department.

22:12the fact that Elliot Clark's not going to be on

22:18or we could just announce when we get to that

22:23because I noticed that the new one doesn't have

22:37Good morning. Good morning. Hope everyone

22:42this morning to discuss the 2027 revaluation,

22:50is the the kickoff and and as I think I just

22:56County and it it certainly doesn't seem like

23:01so this is kind of the initial kickoff process

23:07So, we're going to go through and talk

23:15So, first and foremost, as we've said multiple

23:19General Statute 105286 says that all counties

23:25at least once every 8 years. This board about 8

23:32that cycle to a 4-year cycle. So our last our last

23:39revaluation if you think about it a lot of areas

23:44a revaluation is a chance for us to capture those

23:50really the the sole purpose of the revaluation.

23:56All of our land values, building values, both

24:02lot. Are you going to update everything or just

24:10Why this matters to you all and to our our

24:16updating those values for fairness, transparency,

24:22publicly available for folks to review. Uh and

24:27go through that, talk a little bit about that in

24:31though for this revaluation discussion as we

24:37a buzzword and a bad word that we are increasing

24:43assume automatically that my tax bill is going

24:48typically what happens in county in a county

24:53values may go up and I'm making this up. This

24:58but the values may go up. Your value may go

25:03your tax bill is going to go up 50%. There is the

25:09and that is determined by this board and our

25:14Okay? So, it's not all about the revaluation. The

25:22Something new that we've done here in Alamance

25:27town halls. We're up to 10 meetings at this

25:32uh community meetings that we've had. Myself as

25:37all of those. Most recently uh two weeks ago on

25:43a couple of our libraries in Burlington

25:47good. We've had some really good response

25:51and so I certainly have have enjoyed that. We do

25:57will be held in December. So kind of as we're

26:02are starting to be solidified and we can share

26:0716 and 17, we will be having uh three uh last

26:17So, we're asking today and there is a process

26:21you all just to simply consider the schedule of

26:26Schedule of values is a manual the assessor's

26:31there from rates, base rates, land rates,

26:38and residential also as well as our income

26:43uh we have a separate schedule of values that I

26:48present use. We adopt those separately separate

26:53which is our farm program agricultural uh as

26:58else. The reason that's done is because that

27:02from the state. We simply utilize what they

27:11So the legal process is defined under 105317. So

27:17for consideration. It is now now will be filed

27:24right now for inspection later today if not by end

27:30online for anyone who wants to go on there and

27:34us a call. Uh public hearing will be held. I'll

27:41Then the board will adopt or consider to adopt

27:46of adoption must be published. So to give you a

27:53look like, September the 10th. So on Thursday,

27:59says or not an article but an ad that says uh the

28:05and they can consider that and come by and see or

28:10will be held on October the 19th. That will be in

28:16to come out and speak to the schedule of values.

28:21because we're anticipating an adoption, but we'll

28:26this 2027 schedule of values. And then subsequent

28:33for four consecutive weeks. Once again, in our

28:39last day for challenging the validity of this

28:47Once again, here is how folks can review that

28:52a copy there now online. It will be on there

28:57email. Uh they can answer any questions. We

29:02document to them as you all have a paper copy

29:06it might be a challenge to do that, but they're

29:13So who is doing the 2027 revaluation? As you all

29:20you all contracted with Vincent Valuations to

29:26revaluation for 2027. So, Vincent Valuations is a

29:34uh assisted in Alamance County's 2023 revaluation.

29:40are this time where it's kind of they're

29:44just kind of an assist role that they were

29:49appraisal, and we'll be doing appeals support for

29:55give or take, by the time we get to revaluation.

30:02Vincent. He is the owner of Vincent Valuations

30:06process uh as we as they move forward

30:14Thank you. Thank you, Brad. Uh, and board, uh,

30:20about the five basic steps of the reappraisal

30:25summary slide, and we're going to go into detail

30:31mentioned before, is the field data collection.

30:37um our staff has visited all of the properties

30:43of these making sure that the records are up to

30:49um any physical characteristics that go with the

30:57the office. We key it into the system and

31:01looking through first the sales. So sales set the

31:07100% of market value. So it's safe to say that

31:14$300,000, your home will be appraised within

31:23looking at sales. So we only consider valid arms

31:32um you sell a home to a family member or

31:38associate and it's not listed on the open market,

31:44a valid transaction because it didn't have market

31:50public to make an offer or purchase that property.

31:56break the county down into neighborhoods. So we

32:01So these neighborhoods are both residential and

32:08when we're in the valuation phase, which we're in

32:14state law tells us that we have to appraise at

32:20a neighborhood we run a ratio and it's at 80%,

32:27throughout this phase we need to look and see,

32:31low on the land? Are we low on the buildings? So,

32:36types for the ratio studies. And lastly, we look

32:43real estate values are changing every single

32:48to see if we need to make any time adjustments for

32:55get is how far back do you go for sales? Well,

33:00no more than 2 years unless we have to. Um, and

33:08property or subject neighborhood as we can. Now,

33:15some commercial properties, we have to go outside

33:20outside of the state. Uh, give you a real good

33:26uh as a as county staff in Durham County, we had

33:32whole lot of malls that appeal, excuse me, uh,

33:39unique property. So that's a case where we may

33:47So building the schedule. So as Brad mentioned,

33:55rates for valuing land, the buildings, and the

34:02cost and depreciation schedule. though the

34:07cost tables and depreciation tables that go

34:13property. There's also a section in there for

34:20certain types of properties are traded based on

34:26uh apartments, retail, things like that. So people

34:33all covered in the schedule. So right now, which

34:39we're applying this schedule parcel by parcel,

34:44values. We're reviewing the data and making sure

34:49market, making sure that we're as close to that

34:56statistical testing. So again, we're running

35:00neighborhood, by property type to make sure again

35:06mail notices to all property owners with their new

35:12for February time frame and then that starts the

35:20subsequent presentations. So just a couple quick

35:28comparison approach is the most common and and and

35:34subject property and we look at other properties

35:41value. Um in certain instances um again more

35:47cost approach. So, what does it cost to replace or

35:54depreciation on that structure? And again, the

36:00we touched on those types of properties that

36:06when it comes to land, we're typically

36:10Um there's unique circumstances where land

36:16but those are very few and far between. Um so

36:23land sells for. And I believe that is all we

36:32Uh, one question I have, when you're using the

36:40commercial? So, that's a really good question.

36:46properties? So, we'll typically look at uh

36:51we're looking at an apartment complex. So, if we

36:58just use round numbers, $1,000 a month for

37:04market. We'll make sure that that is a reasonable

37:11substantially over the market or substantially

37:18income, so that's the maximum the property can

37:23we'll go to the market. We'll see what is the

37:29complex that stays booked and they might have 3

37:37turnover, more vacancy and collection loss and

37:44then we look at expenses. So expenses are

37:50or if we can get information from the owner on

37:56what are market expenses for that property.

38:03sales comparison approach and the income approach

38:08is a reasonable realistic um income expenses

38:16get that net income. So it's gross income minus

38:22that net income that that property would produce

38:28So a cap rate again comes from the market. It

38:36income that that property produced. Um and then

38:43is determined. So again, just in quick summary,

38:49valuation for that property. Anyone else have any

38:59How do you go about delineating neighborhoods? Is

39:05in a particular neighborhood? And how is that

39:10Um, so we didn't do delineation in the last, um,

39:17so I can't speak to how neighborhoods were

39:22they are now. So, typically what we do is we

39:28for example, those are usually always their own

39:33areas, uh, it may be an entire township that's a

39:41so a neighborhood could be made up of typical

39:48if we go into a track built subdivision, those

39:53those get to be a little more difficult. Sometimes

39:59Um, those lines could also be drawn based on

40:07if we see an area where uh land is selling

40:13$50,000, and then we watch those sales as we're

40:19and we see, hey, all of a sudden, we see all

40:25there's a neighborhood line somewhere in there.

40:32when it comes to commercial, uh, we're looking for

40:39So, you might have commercial neighborhoods

40:45um, because those land values are typically higher

40:52is is built and can financially function around

40:58fast food, restaurants, things like that. And

41:04those property types change. There'll be more

41:09um downtown row type properties, which are call

41:15other, share a common wall. Um so for commercial,

41:21and property types. Uh and also location. So what

41:28subjective, fairly subjective and consequently

41:34neighborhood assignment. We could um generally uh

41:42get challenged on the neighborhood that we're in.

41:50um if if somebody is challenging the value,

41:56neighborhood lines in my experience um typically

42:04uh Thank you. Have you uh been seeing much change

42:13in particular recently? seem to be seeing a number

42:20values are our asking prices being reduced from

42:3015 to 20 25 $30,000 from the original asking price

42:38seeing that? Yeah. So, um can't speak to specific

42:47have seen a little bit of of I want to say maybe

42:55maybe a little bit of a of a cool down in the

43:01of of we have a valuation date of January 1st,

43:09September and January, right? Um so we we have

43:16go through its legal process um at this point in

43:23the reappraisal is due. Um but we're continually

43:29these values um and monitoring the market all the

43:37reason why we don't mail notices say January 1st

43:44being filed, sales are being filed, and there's a

43:50get into the tax system and us to analyze it.

43:56process. We're not reviewing sales today that

44:01there. Um, and so that's why we need that that

44:09sales that happened in December and see, hey,

44:14had four sales come in in December and showed an

44:19we want to monitor those all the way up until the

44:24realtors and one of them actually took some

44:30this year and the increase in price transaction

44:42a 4-year period of time it seems like for a net

44:49over a fouryear period of time so The implication

44:55staying fairly stable from what they were or maybe

45:02I can't speak to any percent changes at this point

45:07like I said, for the next um few months here.

45:17sure and take into account u uh sewer easements,

45:28and so forth that make certain properties uh that

45:36coming out as high values and that shouldn't

45:45entry lots if those are set aside you know by that

45:56buildable. Yep. Yeah. And we um we try to look at

46:07know every easement um because sometimes easements

46:13been many times in my career where we've gotten

46:20and there's an easement that runs right through

46:25this recorded? Was this mapped anywhere?" Well,

46:30it's not recorded. It's not we don't know about

46:36of that and those are all excellent um excellent

46:44is the only tax that you can file an appeal on um

46:49if we do miss something and again we'll cover

46:54us know the the public is the auditors of our

47:01want to get it as right as possible but there is

47:06and that's why there's an appeal process and so we

47:11information and if it's incorrect let us know

47:17uh if the land will perk uh if it's suitable for

47:23but if you look at land and it can be built on or

47:30a septic system, y'all consider that also in the

47:38keep all of the no perk codes from year to year.

47:44somebody might get a perk test and we might have

47:48year. They didn't let us know. Um, they can file

47:54We'll get that taken care of. Okay. I just have a

48:02affects apartments. Don't go because I got I'm

48:13But I mean, I know their House of Representatives

48:18A lot of times they don't agree, but they end up

48:24housing, which I don't know what that really

48:30thing that we miss out on that comes to the

48:35certain departments do. Yeah. And then I I mean

48:42and we are having apartments built like rabbits

48:48like it. But at the same time I was reading in our

48:54Alamance Crossing. There's one last little piece

48:59apartments on it and and from what I understand

49:06being on the board and you zoning there's a line

49:10schools that's just what it is but if that's built

49:16neighbors housing down because they've already got

49:21there's housing and you build it I mean it kind

49:26value of those homeowners? Yeah. So, so a couple

49:31the Blige, so we'll we'll go back to that. Um, but

49:39to them, be it apartment complexes, industrial,

49:43for sales to tell us. We're looking for the market

49:50house that's that that sells right here and then

49:55a similar house resells a year or two later, um,

50:01on? So, did that did that thing that was built,

50:08so we're going to look to the market to try to

50:13a street gets enclosed with certain businesses,

50:19because they know what's coming. Yep. Okay. And

50:24over time? Are those sales decreasing over time?

50:29properties because of the effect of something else

50:35on the Blue Ridge, I can kind of summarize it

50:39here. Um to touch on the Blige case. So, this was

50:46I misspeak on any of this. I'm not super familiar

50:51Central County. Yeah. So, so don't don't quote

50:58there was an apartment complex that um appealed

51:05owned 1% or onetenth of a percent by an exempt

51:13know the name. I know the name was Blish Housing.

51:18North Carolina is first to the tax office, second

51:24the state property tax commission. There's five

51:29by the governor, speaker, so on and so forth. If

51:34you can go to the state court of appeals. This

51:40the court of appeals rendered the decision

51:45a portion of it's owned by an exempt entity,

51:52So, what that means is if I build an apartment

51:59exempt entity, a nonprofit, and I say, "Hey, I'll

52:05complex. Um, and I sign over just a sliver

52:13property taxes on the whole thing, and I do not

52:18statutes that allow for discounted taxes for, to

52:26uh, I don't believe they have to be considered

52:31uh, below market market or above rate was up to

52:37the market rate was up to $1,700 a month in rent.

52:43case, but um, they did try to close that this

52:47and uh it didn't uh didn't pass. Don't know what

52:54Um there was some presentations done at the House

53:02the effect that this is having on some of the

53:08talked about Meckllinburgg. I know they talked

53:14this case is old. Uh I mean in regards to cases I

53:24been around a while. Um it's just starting to gain

53:32more than it has or has not, I don't know how many

53:37be a a very large um could be a large hit to your

53:44Right, Brad? Yeah, it was. It was it's a little

53:50um with the uh county commissioners association

53:56That's not a good top 10 to be on, but we're on

54:01be lost. And I will tell you just moving forward

54:05$1 million uh loss in tax. And so uh last year,

54:13huge push to get this through the legislature.

54:19to the Senate and completely disappeared. And so

54:25connections because it is becoming very costly

54:31tax administrator personally it's just not fair.

54:37we have a lot of folks who are low income who

54:42u would like to see something change just to

54:46equitable for our for our customers. I bet

54:52problem. I got a question about the value on a

54:56written an ex that's going to positively affect

55:03would that not then also affect the market value

55:10we're not getting taxes on it anyway so yes so

55:16for value on commercial we take taxes we do not

55:24include taxes is we load them into the cap rate.

55:30building and our tax rate is uh our tax rate is

55:36to use a cap rate of 7% for that property. So

55:42just not taking the direct line item. We're

55:48Um, but those properties would still be valued

55:54just wouldn't get a tax bill. Okay. Anything else

56:04revaluation each time? Mhm. Do you concentrate on

56:14is everything every every time we do the valuation

56:22equal amount of of focus. Now the majority of

56:28residential property. So, uh, timewise, more time

56:35more of it. Um, but they all get equal focus for

56:41Thank Thank you. Anybody else? Got one other

56:47organization out of the airport that does aerial

56:56They do a baseline and then at re at at reval

57:03update and they can actually identify changes

57:09a barn, a new building on a piece of property,

57:15at those properties and identify the ones that

57:19to try and get a baseline on going after this

57:25additional information at the next reval. Yeah,

57:29our vendor that does that. I think they're the

57:33and they're doing a flyover for us this winter.

57:39really do a whole lot in the way of of of Ryan's

57:44appeals process when folks call in and say they

57:49I've spoke with with county manager uh a couple

57:54a change detection software where they can

57:58utilizing those aerial photographs. But yeah, we

58:03Okay. All right. Thank you both very much. I

58:08full reval. Okay. uh we had down VA was going to

58:18director had something come up and cannot be here

58:24replacement policy. Good morning commissioners.

58:31a bit of time talking about our county fleet and

58:40we have a policy that we uh created back in 2023

58:47discussion outside of the budget process. So, that

58:54updates to the policy. Um I want to first explain

59:01here, we did not have any sort of uh set criteria

59:08um replace vehicles. So we created this policy

59:16out either to uh have resale value for them so

59:23where we were kind of self-funding uh vehicle set

59:30that point due to budget restrictions. We've never

59:37we have been doing is instead rotating vehicles

59:45area like the sheriff's uh office, for example.

59:51a department that just needs a vehicle to

59:59you know, something simple. So, that's primarily

1:00:05um once they um are no longer safe to use, we will

1:00:13a critical use for them, if that makes sense. So

1:00:19vehicle in addition to the mileage. So it's not

1:00:26vehicle needs on an annual basis. And then um we

1:00:35availability which uh vehicles are prioritized for

1:00:41policy that staff uses. Over the last few years,

1:00:48funds have not been available to replace vehicles

1:00:55we've laid out. So, what we have adjusted um based

1:01:03That is one component that we're looking at when

1:01:10little bit uh particularly for the share of patrol

1:01:16and utility vehicles. Ambulances have remained the

1:01:23much bigger investment for us. We have 17

1:01:29not change um the mileage threshold for them.

1:01:36um that has also gone up. So right now what's

1:01:42to the policy include um a mileage threshold of

1:01:51um the cars, trucks and vans also 135 and then

1:01:58in pursuit and patrol at 160,000 does not mean

1:02:04have many vehicles much much higher higher mileage

1:02:11some of the guidelines that we look at when trying

1:02:18to prioritize replacement for. Can I answer any

1:02:30I think it's pretty straightforward. You said

1:02:36we only have eight active units or we we do

1:02:44are currently in demand. We're also gearing up

1:02:50to be constructing. So, we're yeah, you know,

1:02:56um ambulances without having to bring you a huge

1:03:03shop uh getting repairs, getting uh so there's

1:03:13been cleaned up or repaired or whatever. They're

1:03:20have a was wondering aged fleet of ambulances.

1:03:29very much. Do you need a vote on that to accept

1:03:35this is just an internal policy that we use when

1:03:40to adopt it, that's certainly welcome as well.

1:03:47in favor? I Thank you. Now we go to the county

1:03:55board. Thank you. Thank you. County

1:04:00um if you'll indulge me. Um the Department of

1:04:06join them in recognizing September as National

1:04:12recognizing and appreciating our professionals who

1:04:19and provide stable outcomes for children. They

1:04:26this community. And this month is an opportunity

1:04:31of our recruitment, development, and retention of

1:04:38them in September. And then um I wanted to remind

1:04:44having a uh grand opening celebration for our

1:04:53services center. That's going to be held on

1:04:59open that date again. Uh Friday, September 18th

1:05:06our Graham Hopedale Road Human Services Complex

1:05:134. Noon to 4. Yes. We also wanted to recognize

1:05:21Barber. She has been before you many times. She

1:05:27that come before you as well as a whole host of

1:05:32serve on the North Carolina crisis system of

1:05:38identify gaps and evaluate practices and recommend

1:05:44Elmans County on that and we are proud to have

1:05:51Uh we have commissioner comment. Commissioner

1:05:58outside of Amanda Haj's gym over at the outlets.

1:06:05thing um I went to take a tour. You've got to

1:06:13of Burlington on Boywood Road. And I went there

1:06:17my Sunday school class. Y'all, it is unbelievable.

1:06:24just saying it's unbelievable. But to go there

1:06:31see how amazing that is and just rest assure that

1:06:39was just so glad that I got to go. I these people

1:06:45and the place was spotless except for what was

1:06:51just take for granted so many times being in the

1:06:57turn the water faucet on and it just comes out

1:07:02government is about so many other things when it

1:07:06that about wrecked us and how other people had to

1:07:12people in this county, city and county, that

1:07:17perfect, but I'm going to tell you what, they're

1:07:21talking about DSS and with children, we've just

1:07:27That's just heartbreaking. And I mean, and that's

1:07:33And so, I'm just very thankful for the leadership

1:07:38they have to deal with everything. It's um you

1:07:42because we've watched Nepal with that go we I

1:07:47county and we need to really realize that and

1:07:56like to um congratulate the schools on the recent

1:08:06almost every school in in the county and reducing

1:08:15down to 10 out of the 33. Uh but I think it's it's

1:08:23now being made. Uh real progress and I I uh I like

1:08:34but we're we're uh the the change is really

1:08:44uh, ditto to that, Sam. Uh, and, uh, I wish I had

1:08:51but I was got an opportunity to see some of what's

1:08:55uh, Dr. Fleming and, uh, interesting. Um, but I

1:09:04in the right direction. But this is something

1:09:09last couple of months, I have gotten three of

1:09:18Neither of which now, my daughter has never lived

1:09:23never lived in North Carolina. He's come

1:09:31forms to register my daughter and my grandson

1:09:40not the only one to have received them.

1:09:43commissioner mentioned that to me today. Um,

1:09:52then request my my question to the board

1:09:57get registered as a resident at my address

1:10:08Do we not have the potential a

1:10:15discrepancy in the vote in the upcoming election?

1:10:21That would be good to follow up on. Commissioner

1:10:25Yes. Okay. Uh that would be good to follow up

1:10:31today. Okay. Um, I want to say as someone who's

1:10:38um has gone in with others to buy backpacks

1:10:43I'm really glad to see that they were one of

1:10:50of non-English-speaking students that come

1:10:55Um also um I know um with my husband having

1:11:04and municipalities actually provide water and

1:11:11uh uh treated their own sewer and all the what

1:11:17So it really is interesting to go see and

1:11:25the commissioners every year before we appoint to

1:11:31if they're on a board and they'd like to rotate

1:11:38I'm on about 10 boards. Commissioner Carter

1:11:44Um I also know that at one point um something that

1:11:52they were never appointed to and uh they asked

1:11:58um I've also had a commissioner request

1:12:03the schools and I take that into consideration

1:12:10There are a tremendous amount of boards um that

1:12:18to listen and to see what's going on. And so I

1:12:25these commissioners can be on every board there

1:12:31it's not all just ribbon cutings. And there's a

1:12:37that nothing is said about or you know it's not an

1:12:44So a lot of people do not realize how much time

1:12:52and hopefully as elected officials we are all

1:12:59attitude. um then this is a full-time job and if

1:13:08and the people who were um voting for you and

1:13:18a motion to adjourn. I'll move. Commissioner

1:13:24question right now. Oh you can. Okay great.

1:13:29um, voting on behalf of another person, falsely

1:13:34registration form, those are actually felonies

1:13:38adequate remedy if someone were to be found to

1:13:44um, my husband passed away two and a half years

1:13:50reregister and I called the election board

1:13:55And I said, "Okay, I'm just double-checking here

1:14:02re him to register the vote." And that's what

1:14:08we have a motion to adjourn. Do I have a second?

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