2026-10-27 - Committee of the Whole

01:08>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS

01:10AISHA CHUGHTAI AND I'M THE VICE

01:11CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE. I'M

01:13GOING TO CALL TO ORDER OUR

01:15REGULAR MEETING FOR TUESDAY,

01:19OCTOBER 27th, 2026. BEFE WE

01:20BEGIN THE MEET, I WANT TO OFFER

01:21A FRIENDLY REMINDING TO ALL

01:23MEMBERS, STAFF, AND THE PUBLIC

01:25THAT THESE MEET KS ARE BROADCAST

01:26LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLICPAS

01:29INCLUDE REAL-TIME CAPTIONING AS

01:30A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE

01:33ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS

01:34TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE,

01:37ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL

01:38OF THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH SO

01:40AT OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY

01:42CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE ALL

01:43COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. WE

01:44ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE

01:45SPEED AND CLARITY OF YOUR

01:46COMMENTS. AT THIS TIME, I'LL

01:48ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL,

01:50SO WE CAN VERIFY THE PRESENCE

01:52OOF A QUORUM.

01:54>> COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE.

01:56>> PRESENT.

01:56>> WONSLEY.

01:57>> PRESENT.

01:58>> RAINVILLE.

01:59>> PRESENT.

01:59>> VETAW.

02:01>> PRESENT.

02:02>>ARREN IS ABSENT. OSMAN IS

02:06ABSENT. SHAFFER.

02:09>> PRESENT.

02:09>> STEVENSON.

02:11>> PRESENT.

02:11>> CHAVEZ.

02:13>> PRESENT.

02:15>> WHITING.

02:15>> PRESENT.

02:16>> PALMISANO.

02:17PRESENT.

02:17>> VICE CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

02:19RESENT.

02:19>> AND CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

02:21>> PRESENT.

02:21>> THERE ARE 11 MEMBERS PRESENT.

02:22>> THANK YOU, CLERK. THANK YOU,

02:24CLERK. LET THE RECORD REFLECT

02:25THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM. I WL

02:28NOTE FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE FOR

02:30TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU

02:31WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE,

02:32WE ASK THAT YOU REGISTER WITH

02:34THE CLERKS IN THE HALLWAY BEFORE

02:38COMING UP TO OFFER YOUR

02:40TESTONY. COLLEAGUES, OUR

02:41AGENDA FOR TODAY IS IN FRONT OF

02:42US AND WE HAVE THREE AMENDMENTS

02:44TO MAKE BEFORE WE ADOPT THE

02:46AGENDA. ONE IS FROM THE CITY

02:48ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REGARDING A

02:49GRANT, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO

02:52LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVES, BOTH

02:53AUTHED BY COUNCILMEMBER VETAW,

02:56ME, AND CHAIR CHOWDHURY. THERE

02:59ARE WALK-ON ITEM PACKETS AT YOUR

03:01DESKS ON THE DAIS THAT CONTAIN

03:05THE RCAs FOR THESE WALK-ONS.

03:11WITHOUT OBJECTION I WILL GO

03:12AHEAD AND ADD THESE ITEMS TO THE

03:13TOP OF OUR AGENDA. I'M NOT

03:15SEEING ANY OBJECTION. BEFORE WE

03:19CONTINUE WITH OUR AGENDA, WE

03:20WILL FIRST TAKE UP OUR REPORTS

03:23STANDING COMMITTEES BEGINNING

03:24WITH OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE, WHICH

03:26WILL BE OFFERED BY COUNCILMEMBER

03:31SHAFFER

03:32>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

03:34THE BUDGET COMMITTEE WILL BE

03:36BRINGINGORWARD FOUR ITEMS.

03:39ITEM NUMBER 1 RESCINDS

03:40CONTRACTING AUTHORITY AND

03:43RESOLUTION 2022R-291 TO ENTER

03:45INTO A PROCUREMENT CONTRACT OF

03:47GREATER THAN $5,000 AND LESS

03:49THAN OR EQUAL TO $175,000 WHEN A

03:54DEPARTMENT HAS EXCEEDED ITS

03:56ANNUAL BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS.

03:58THIS WAS SENT FORWARD WITHOUT

04:01RECOMMENDATI. ITEM NUMBER 2

04:03AMENDS THE 2026 GENERAL

04:05APPROPRIATION RESOLUTION F

04:06COMMUNITY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

04:07NAVIGATORS AT THE SOUTH

04:09MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY SAFETY

04:11CENTER. ITEM NUMBER 3 AMENDS

04:15THE 2026 GENERAL APPROPRIATION

04:16RESOLUTION FOR COMMUNITY

04:17NAVIGATORS CONTRACT AT THE SOUTH

04:19MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY SAFETY

04:21CENTER. AND FINALLY, ITEM 4

04:23EXPRESSES CITY COUNCIL'S INTENT

04:25TO APPLY GOVERNMENT

04:27RESTRUCTURING SAVINGS TOWARDS

04:28PROPERTY TAX RELIEF IN 2027.

04:30THIS WAS ALSO SENT FORWARD

04:33WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. I'LL

04:34STAND QUESTIONS FOR THESE IMS.

04:36>> THANK YOU.

04:38>> OH, I'M SORRY. IN ADDITION

04:39WE HAVE CONTINUED TO RECEIVE --

04:41DID I READ THESE? SORRY. WE

04:45HAVE RECEIVED PRESENTATIONS

04:46RELATED TO THE MAYOR'S 2027

04:48RECOMMENDED BGET. SINCE THE

04:49LAST COW MEETING WE HAVE

04:51RECEIVED MANY PRESENTATIONS

04:53REGARDING 311, NEIGHBORHOOD AND

04:54COMMUNITY RELATIONS,

04:55INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS,

04:59RACIAL, EQUITY, INCLUSION, AND

05:01BELONGING, FINANCE AND PROPERTY

05:03SERVICES, COMMUNICATIONS,

05:04ASSESSING, YOUTH COORDINATING

05:05BOARD, PARKS AND RECREATION

05:07BOARD, CONVENTION CENTER,

05:09PERFORNCE, MANAGEMENT, AND

05:11INNOVATION, PUBLIC WORKS,

05:13INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY,

05:14TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENT PLAN, AND

05:15CAPITAL BUDGET. THANK YOU..

05:18>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS ON

05:20THIS COMMITTEEEPORT? I'M NOT

05:23SEEING ANY. WE WILL CONTINUE TO

05:26OUR SECOND COMMITTEE REPORT,

05:27FROM THE BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND

05:28ZONING COMMITTEE FOR. FOR THIS

05:31I'LL RECOGNIZE VICE PRESIDENT

05:33OSMAN.

05:33>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THE

05:36BUSINESS HOUSING AND ZONING

05:38COMMITTEE WILL BE BRINGING 19

05:40ITEMS FORWARD ON THURSDAY

05:41COUNCIL MEETING. ITEM 1

05:43APPROVALS THE LIQUOR AND

05:44ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE FOR MIXED

05:47CULTURE BREWERY. ITEM 2

05:49APPROVES EXTENDED HOURS LICENSE

05:50FOR WHEELHOUSE STUDIO. ITEM 3

05:52APPROVES THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE

05:56ORDINANCE FOR LICENSE AND

05:57BUSINESS R REGULATIONS. ITEM

06:004 APPROVES THE SAFE OUTDOOR

06:02SPACE ORDINANCE ZONING. ITEM 5

06:06DENIES THE SITE PLAN REVIEW

06:07APPROVAL FROM CHRIS MERVY FROM

06:10THE BUILDING AT 3561 44 STREET

06:14SOUTHWEST. ITEM 6 APPROVES THE

06:16REZONING ORDINANCE FOR ELLIOTT

06:19CABRAL GROUP. ITEM 7 APPROVES

06:22SEVEN QUOR LICENSE. ITEM 8

06:25APPROVES 31 LIQUOR REWALS.

06:28ITEM 9 APPROVES 7 GAMBLING

06:30LICENSE. ITEM 10 APPROVES 15

06:33GAMBLING RENEWALS. ITEM 11

06:35AUTHORIZE FINANCING AGREEMENT

06:37WITH TWIN CITIES HABITAT FOR

06:40HUMANITY. ITEM 12 ACCEPTS AND

06:42AUTHORIZE THE LEGACY GRANT FOR

06:43THSETTLEMENT HOUSE PROJECT.

06:47ITEM 13 APPROVES THE

06:55DECERTIFICATION FOR THE --

07:00>> FFOR THE CY HERITAGE PARK

07:02VOLUNTARY RELOCATION POLICY. I

07:02WILL NOTE THAT THIS ITEM WAS

07:07FORWARDED WITHOUT

07:08RECOMMENDATION. ITEM 15

07:10APPROVES THE 2027 LICENSEEE

07:12SCHED SCHEDULE AS AMENDED.

07:15ITEM 16 APPROVES THE RENTAL

07:17LICENSE REIN-STATEMENT FOR

07:22PROPERTY AT 1316 COLFAX AVENUE

07:25SOUTH. ITEM 17 AUTHORIZE AN

07:28EXISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT BETHANY

07:30COMMUNITY CENTER. ITEM 18

07:31APPROVES A LOAN AND AMENDED

07:34TERMS FOR THE -- HARBOR TERMINAL

07:37PERFORMANCE ARTS CENTER. AND

07:39LASTLY, ITEM 19 APPROVES AN

07:40AMENDED CONTRACT FOR THE 14th

07:43AVENUE TOWNHOMES. WITH THAT I

07:44WILL STAND FOR ANY QUEIONS.

07:49THANK YOU.

07:50>> THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES ANY

07:52QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE BHZ

07:53COMMITTEE REPORT? I'M NOT

07:55SEEING. WE WILL CONTINUE TO OUR

07:56NEXT COMMITT REPORT, FROM THE

07:58CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE

07:59COMMITTEE, AND FOR THIS I'LL

08:00RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY.

08:04>> THANKOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

08:12INCLIMATE INFRASTRUCTURE

08:12COMMITTEE WILL BERINGING

08:13FORWARD 15 ITEMS FOR THURSDAY'S

08:15COUNCIL MEETING. THE FIRST

08:17BEING A PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION

08:20ADOPTING AND LEVEEING

08:21ASSESSMENTS FOR WATER AND SEWER

08:23SERVICE LINE REPAIR. TWO IS

08:26AUTHORIZING ACQUISITION OF

08:27PERMANENT AND TEMPORARY

08:28EASEMENTS RELATED TO NORTH 2nd

08:31STREET BIKE LANE. THREE IS

08:33PROJECT DESIGNATION AND COST

08:36ESTIMATE ADOPTION FOR THE 35th

08:37AND 36th STREET RECONSTRUCTION

08:40PROJECT. AND SETTING A PUBLIC

08:41HEARING FOR DECEMBER 10th,

08:442026. NUMBER 4 IS AUTHORIZING

08:46AGREEMENT WITH HENPIN COUNTY

08:48FOR THE NORTH SIDE GREENWAY

08:50PHASE 1 PROJECT IN THE PASSAGE

08:52OF RESOLUTION FOR THE RELATED

08:55APPROPRIATION. NUMBER 5 IS A

08:57PROJECT DESIGNATION AND COST

09:00TIMATE ADOPTION FOR THE

09:02MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF

09:03TRANSPORTATION UNIVERSITY AVENUE

09:05NORTHEAST PHASE 1 IMPROVEMENTS

09:07PROJECT AND SETTING A PUBLIC

09:09HEARING FOR DECEMBER 10th,

09:122026. SIX IS A PASSAGE OF

09:14RESOLUTION LEVEEING VARIOUS

09:15PUBLIC WORKS SPECIAL

09:17ASSESSMENTS, A ADOPTING THE

09:20ASSESSMENT ROLLS. SIXTY SEVEN

09:21IS PAS-- SEVEN IS PASSAGE OF

09:23RESOLUTION REDUCING THE SPECIAL

09:24ASSESSMENT F 715 24th STREET

09:27EAST RELATED TO THE PEDESTRIAN

09:28CROSSING FLASHER. EIGHT IS

09:31AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH

09:33THE MISSISSIPPI PARKS AND

09:35RECREATION BOARD FOR THE URBAN

09:36TREE AND GREENING PILOT PROJECT.

09:40NINE IS AUTHORIZING A PERMANENT

09:42DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMEN

09:43AGREEMENT WITH MINNEAPOLIS PARKS

09:44AND RECREATION BOARD FOR THE

09:46OPERATION, MAINTENANCE AND

09:47REPAIR OF STORMWATER

09:49IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED WITHIN BREN

09:54MAR MEADOWS PAVMENT NCH 10 IS

09:55ACCEPTING A SOLE BID FOR THE

09:56HEAVY TRUCK AND EQUIPMENT BODY

09:58WORK. 11 IS AUTHORIZING A

09:59CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH

10:02MENTIONER CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES

10:03INC. FOR THE NOONAN AVENUE

10:06CEMETERY RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

10:0712 IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT

10:09AMENDMENT WITH THE MINNESOTA

10:10DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR

10:12USE OF LAND UNDER I-94 BRIDGES.

10:1613 IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT

10:18W TOLTTS, KING, DUVAL, AND

10:23ASSOCIATES FOR PLANNING,

10:24ENGINEERING AND DESIGN SERVICES

10:25FOR THE CONNECTG CAMDEN RAIL

10:26CROSSING ELIMINATION PROJECT.

10:2814 IS A PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION

10:30FOR A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE

10:32RED LAKE NATION COLLEGE. AND 15

10:36IS RETURNING TO AUTHOR THE

10:38COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY

10:40ENERGY DISCLOSURE REPEAL

10:42ORDINANCE. AND WITH THAT WILL

10:43STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

10:45>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIO

10:47RELATED TO THE CLIMATE AND

10:49INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE REPORT?

10:52I'M NOT SEEING ANY. WE WILL

10:54NOW CONTINUE TO THE ENTERPRISE

10:55AND LABOR RELATIONS COMMITTEE

10:57FOR WHICH I WILL RECOGNIZE

11:00COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO.

11:02>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. WE

11:03HAD A COUPLE OF RECEIVE AND

11:05FILES AT ELR, AND WE HAD A

11:06PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ETHICAL

11:07PRACTICES BOARD APPOINTMENTS.

11:09BUT THE TWO ITEMS BEING BROUGHT

11:11FORWARD THIS WEEK TO THURSDAY'S

11:13COUNCIL MEETING ARE A CONTRACT

11:14WITH HEALTH EQUITY FOR FSA AND

11:17TRANSPORTATION BENEFIT

11:18ADMINISTRATION SERVICES, AND A

11:20CONTRACT WITH CODE 4 FOR CAD AND

11:24MOBILE SAFETY SYSTEM

11:26MAINTENANCE. I'M HAPPY TO

11:27ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

11:31>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS

11:32RELATED TO THE ELR COMMITTEE

11:36REPORT? I'M NOT SEEING ANY.

11:38WE'LL NEXT CONTINUE TO OUR

11:43INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS

11:43COMMITTEE. FOR THIS I WILL

11:45RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER

11:45RAINVILLE.

11:47>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THE

11:49INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS

11:50COMMITE MET THIS MORNING AND

11:52RECEIVED TWO UPDATES. ONE WAS

11:54AN UPDATE ON FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE

11:57ACTION AS WELL AS REPORT FROM

12:00REPRESENTATIVE OMAR. THE SECOND

12:01WAS AN UPDATE ON THE CITY'S

12:04DRAFT 2027 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA

12:06AND POLICY POSITNS. IN

12:08ADDITION, THE COMMITTEE

12:09FORWARDED ONE ITEM TO THURSDAY'S

12:11COUNCIL MEETING. IT IS A

12:13RESOLUTION CALLINGN THE U.S.

12:14DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SURITY

12:17TO DESIGNATE HAITI FOR TEMPORARY

12:20PROTECTIVE STATU THAT IS MY

12:23REPORT.

12:23>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY

12:25QUESTIONS RELATED TO IGR REPORT?

12:30I'M NOT SEEING ANY. FINALLY, WE

12:33WI RECEIVE A REPORT FROM OUR

12:35PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND

12:36EQUITY COMMITTEE FOR. FOR THIS

12:38I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER

12:40CHAVEZ.

12:40>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THE

12:42PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND

12:43EQUITY COMMITTEE WILL BE

12:45BRINGING FORWARD 11 ITEMS. ITEM

12:491 IS A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING

12:50THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AS HEALTH

12:52LITERACY AWARENESS MONTH. ITEM

12:542 IS AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE

12:57COMMUNITY COMMISSION OF POLICE

12:58OVERSIGHT ETHICS EDUCATION

13:00ORDINANCE. ITEM 3 IS A REVENUE

13:02CONTRACT WITH THE MINNESOTA

13:04DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES

13:06TO PROVIDE FIRE AND EMERGENCY

13:07RESPONSE SERVICES TO THE FORT

13:09SNELLING UPPER POST HOUSING

13:11DEVELOPMENT. ITEM 4 AUTHORIZES

13:13A CONTRACT WITH KEEPERS WELL%ESS

13:16LLC FOR FIREFIGHTER MENTAL

13:17HEALTH SERVICES. ITEM 5

13:19AUTHORIZES A CONTRACT WITH ROACH

13:22DIAGNOSTICS FOR POINT OF CARE

13:24TESTING EQUIPMENT FOR MOBE

13:25MEDICAL UNITS. ITEM 6 ACCEPTS A

13:29MATERNAL CHILD HEALTH GRANT FOR

13:30MATERNAL AND CHILD HEALTH

13:33INITIATIVES. ITEM 7 ACCEPTS THE

13:35GREAT LAKES STRIVING COMMUNITIES

13:36GRANT MAKING PROGRAM TO CONTINUE

13:38COMMUNITY AIR MONITORING

13:40PROJECT. AND AUTHORIZE AN

13:41AGREEMENT WITH THE GRANT. ITEM

13:448 AUTHORIZES A JOINT POWERS

13:45AGREEMENT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY

13:47FOR COMMUNITY TRAUMA RESPONSE

13:48SERVICES. ITEM 9 ACCEPTS A

13:50DOTION FOR STAFF CONFERENCE

13:52ATTENDANCE. ITEM 10 APPROVES A

13:55LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TO

13:56AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS

13:58IN MINNEAPOLIS. ITEM 11

14:00PROVIDES A LEAD -- APPROVES A

14:02LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TE

14:06MOBILE OR BEHAVIORAL CRISIS

14:06RESPONSE PROGRAM IN HOUSE AT

14:07CURRENT SCOPE AND SERVICE

14:09LEVELS. I'LL STAND FOR ANYQUES.

14:12>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS

14:13RELATED TO THE PUBLIC -- PHSE

14:16RERT? I'LL RECOGNIZE

14:18COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER.

14:18>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DID

14:20HAVE A QUESTIO AROUND THE

14:21LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR BCR --

14:23AROUND BRC TRANSITION PLANS. I

14:26JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT I

14:29APPRECIATE THIS COMING FORWARD,

14:31AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A

14:35FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT I WILL

14:36DETAIL AND GET TO ALL OF YOU

14:39SOON. AND I'D LIKE TO JUST READ

14:40A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS.

14:42BASICALLY AROUND THE ITEM NUMBER

14:471D, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT

14:48TRANSITION TO IN-HOUSE SERVICES,

14:50STAKEHOLDER ROLES, OWNERSHIP

14:52DEPENDENCIES, TO INCLUDE

14:53SOMETHING AROUND THEIR INCLUDING

14:56MEDICAL ASSISTANCE REIMBURSEMENT

14:58TO ADD THAT TO THE ANALYSIS.

15:00AND THEN UNDER NUMBER -- TO ADD

15:01A NEW NUMBER 4, WHICH WOULD, AND

15:04WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS WITH THE

15:05AUTHORS OFFLINE, BUT I WANTED TO

15:07ATEAST MENTION IT TODAY.

15:10NUMBER 4 HAVE INCLUDE AN

15:11ANALYSIS OF SIMILAR SERVICES

15:13ALREADY PROVIDED BY HENNEPIN

15:16COUNTY, INCLUDING WHERE THE CITY

15:18AND COUNTY SERVICES OVERLAP, AND

15:19HOW THEY CURRENTLY COORDINATE,

15:21AND WHETHER ANY FUNCTIONS OF THE

15:25MOBILE OR BEHAVIORAL CRISIS

15:26RESPONSE PROGRAM COULD BE

15:27DELIVERED MORE EFFECTIVELY OR

15:29EFFICIENTLY BY OR IN PARTNERSHIP

15:30WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY. INCLUNG

15:33THE COST AND FUNDING

15:34IMPLICATIONS OF SUCH ELIGIBILITY

15:36FOR MEDICAL ASSISTANCE

15:39REIMBURSEMENT.

15:39>> COUNCILMEMBER, THANK YOU FOR

15:42BRINGING THIS ITEM UP RIGHT NOW,

15:44AND WALKING THROUGH AN AMENDMENT

15:46THAT YOU'RE HOPING TO MAKE. AS

15:48YOU KNOW THESE ARE JUST REPORTS

15:49OF COMMITTEES.

15:50>> CORRECT.

15:50>> AND THUS AMENDMENT WILL NEED

15:51TO BE TAKEN UP ON THURSDAY AT

15:53OUR CAN YOU BELIEVE MEETING. --

15:57AT OUR COUNCIL MEETING. AIN

15:58THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP

16:01TODAY SO EVERYONE HAS A HEADS UT

16:04THURSDAY' MEETING. I'LL NEXT

16:06RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMB

16:07WONSLEY.

16:08>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

16:10ALSO AS A OTTER ON THIS

16:12LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR -- AUTHOR

16:13ONHIS LEDGE SLATTIVE

16:14DIRECTIVE, I THINK MANY OF US

16:15WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK

16:17ABOUT COUNCMEMBER SHAFFER

16:20AHEAD OF THURSDAY ABOUT MORE OF

16:22THE CLEAR INTENT OF HOW WE

16:24APOACH THIS LEGISLATIVE

16:25DIRECTIVE USING PRIOR DATA THAT

16:28SHOWED HENNEPIN COUNTY WOULD NOT

16:30BE THE IDEAL SOURCE FOR DOING

16:33BEHAVIORAL CRISIS. ACTUALLY

16:33WOULD ADD TO THE LEVEL OF

16:36DUPLICATION THAT WRE ALREADY

16:37TRYING TO AVOID. BUT MORE THAN

16:39HAPPY TO HAVE FURTHER

16:41CONVERSAONS ONLINE ABOUT THE

16:42OTHER THINGS OR POTENTIAL

16:43AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING

16:46TO ADDRESS OR BRING FORWARD

16:48AHEAD OF THURSDAY.

16:51>> THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES

16:54THE REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. NOW

16:55WE WILL TAKE UP OUR FIRST

16:57WALK-ON ITEM I MENTIONED AT THE

16:59TOP OF THIS MEETING. BEFORE I

17:00GET TO THAT, I WILL NOTE THAT

17:02WE'VE BEENOINED IN THIS

17:04MEETING BY COUNCILMEMBER WARREN.

17:09THIS ITEM, THE FIRST WALK-ON IS

17:11RELATED TO ACCEPTING A GRANT

17:12FROM THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF

17:14PUBLIC SAFETY, SPECIFICALLY THE

17:16OFFICE OF TRAFFIC SAFETY. I

17:18WILL INVITE DAVID BERNSTEIN FROM

17:19THE CRIMINAL DIVISION OF THE

17:20CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO

17:22PRESENT SOME MORE DETAILS ON

17:25THIS. WELCOME, SIR.

17:28>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR

17:29CHUGHTAI. MEMBERS OF THE

17:30MMITTEE, AGAIN, MY NAME IS

17:31DAVID BERNSTEIN. I'M THE DEPUTY

17:33CITY ATTORNEY OF THE CRIMINAL

17:34DIVISION OF THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY

17:35ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE CITY

17:38ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RECEIVED THIS

17:41GRANT LAST YEAR IN JUNE OF 2025.

17:46THE ORIGINAL LENGTH OF THAT

17:47GRANT WAS FOR A PERIOD OF ONE

17:50YEAR. IT WAS EXTENDED UNTIL

17:52OCTOBER. IN THIS PERIOD OF

17:54TIME, THE STATE OF MINNESOTA

17:56TRANSITIONED TO NEW GRANT

17:57SYSTEM AND SO THEY RELEASED A

17:59NEW RFP. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S

18:03OFFICE PLACED ANOTHER

18:03COMPETITIVE BID AND WAS SELECTED

18:05FOR THIS GRANT ONCE AGAIN.

18:07WE'VE HAD A PROSECUTOR WORKING

18:08IN THIS POSITION FOR A LITTLE

18:10OVER ONE YEAR NOW WITH VERY

18:12GREAT SUCCESS. HER FOCUS IS ON

18:15TRAFFIC SAFETY WITH A SPECIC

18:17FOCUS ON DWIs AND DRUG

18:19IMPAIRED DWIs WHICH ARE VERY

18:21MUCH ON THE RISE. THIS

18:22PROSECUTOR HAS LITIGATED COMPLEX

18:25ISSUES AND CASES AT THE DISTRICT

18:26AND APPELLATE COURT LEVELS. SHE

18:28HAS PROVIDED ASSISTANCE TO

18:30ATTORNEYS IN OURFFICE AS WELL

18:32AS ATTORNEYS ACROSS THE STATE OF

18:35MINNESOTA. SHE HASROVIDED

18:36SIGNIFICANT TRAININGS TO

18:38ATTORNEYS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, TO

18:40TOXICOGISTS AND MEMBERS OF THE

18:41TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMUNITY. SHE

18:43HAS PROMOTED BEST PRACTICES AND

18:46HAS REALLY MADE GREAT EFFORTS

18:48THUS FAR IN HER POSITION. AND

18:51SO THIS NEW GRANT WOULD ALLOW

18:52HER TO CONTINUE THE SAME WORK

18:55THAT SHE'S DOING FOR AN EXTENDED

18:57PERIOD OF TIME. I WANT TO THANK

18:59COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO FOR ONCE

19:01AGAIN AUTHORINGHIS RESOLUTION,

19:02AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

19:04QUESTIONS. THANK YOU IVMENT.

19:06>> COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE ANY

19:09QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THIS

19:15ITEM? I'M NOT SEEING ANY.

19:17THANK YOU SO MUCH.

19:18>> EXCE ME, CHAIR. I ALSO HAD

19:21TO REFRESHY QUEUE FOR ITO

19:23MOVE ON FROM THE PREVIOUS.

19:26>> GOTCHA.

19:26>> BUT IT'S JUST ACTING A LITTLE

19:27FUNNY.

19:27I DID JUST WANT TO FORMALLY MOVE

19:29THIS FORWARD FOR APPROVAL. I

19:30DIDN'T HEAR THAT DONE. I'LL

19:32NEED A SECOND.

19:34>> SECOND.

19:34>> THANK YOU. AS YOU KNOW, DRUG

19:37IMPAIRED DRIVING IS A GROWING

19:38TREND, SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE

19:40THIS EXPERTISE FROM OUR

19:43PROSECUTORS, LAW ENFORCEMENT,

19:46TOXICOLOGIST, AND TRAFFIC SAFETY

19:47SPECIALISTS. SO I WILL YEAH,

19:50THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

19:53DR. BERNSTEIN, MR. BERNSTEIN

19:55TOOK CARE OF THE REST.

19:57>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY

19:59MUCH. WE HAVE A MOTION TO

20:01APOVE THIS ITEM. THERE IS NO

20:03FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THEMOTION,

20:07PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

20:09THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY

20:12ACANTIBIOTICSTENTIONS?

20:13THE AYEERIZE -- ANY

20:15ABSTENTIONSES? THE AYES HAVE IT

20:17AND THAT MOTION CARRIES. OUR

20:20NEXT ITEM IS -- LET'S TAKE UP

20:24ITEM 2 AND 3 TOGETHER. THESE

20:25ARE THE TWO LEGISLATIVE

20:27DICTIVES OFFERED BY

20:28COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. ONE IS

20:31RELATED TO THE CITY'S COMMUNITY

20:34ENGAGEMENT OR PROPOSED COMMUNITY

20:36ENGAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, AND THE

20:38OTHER IS ABOUT DUE LICKA

20:41LICK -- DUPLICATIVE SERVICES

20:41HERE AT THE CITY. COUNCILMEMBER

20:44VETAW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO

20:46INTRODUCE THESE ITEMS AND MOVE

20:47APPROVAL?

20:47>> YES, THANK YOU,HAIR

20:50CHUGHTAI. I'M SURE YOU ALL

20:52REMEMBER LAST WEEK WE HA A

20:54PROPOSAL BROUGHT TO US BY CHIEF

20:58OPERATIONS OFFICER MARGARET

20:59ANDERSON KELLIHERBOUT SOME

21:02MERGING OF DEPARTMENTS, AND

21:05WE'VE SINCE H CONVERSATIONS.

21:07I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH

21:09STAFF ABOUT HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY

21:11DO THIS WORK AND BRING A PACKAGE

21:14BEFORE THIS BODY IN THE FIRST

21:15QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR IS THE PLAN

21:17FOR THIS. ANDO THERE ARE TWO

21:19ITEMS BEFORE YOU. THE ONE IS

21:21APPROVING THE LEGISLATI

21:23DIRECTIVE RELATED TO THE

21:25REDESIGN OF THE COMMUNITY

21:26ENGAGEMENT DEPARTMT AS WELL AS

21:27AN ANALYSIS OF ALTERNATIVE

21:29DESIGNS AND THEN THE SECOND ONE

21:31IS APPROVING THE LEGISLATIVE

21:32DIRECTIVE RELATED TO D

21:37DUPLICATIVE CITY SERVICES AND AN

21:39ANALYSIS O REDESIGN

21:42ALTERNATIVES SO THE GOAL IS FOR

21:44QUARR 1 OF 2027 TO HAVE A

21:46PACKAGE BEFORE US TO REVIEW, AND

21:48IF CHANGES ARE ON E TABLE

21:49THEN, MAYBE MAKE CHANGES OR AT

21:50LEAST HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT

21:52SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS WE'VE

21:55HAD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF

21:58YEARS. AND SO THAT WOULD

21:59ELIMINATE THE CONVERSATION WE I

22:00THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF

22:03THIS IS THE CONVERSATN WE HAD

22:04LAST WEEK WAS ABOUT HOW WE COULD

22:06MERGE SOME OF THESE SERVICES,

22:07SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS, AND

22:09SO THAT WOULD BE OFF THE TABLE

22:10FOR NOW. AND WE'RE STARTING

22:11FROM A PLACE OF APPROVING THIS

22:15LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE AND

22:15FIGURING OUT HOW THAT COULD LOOK

22:17IN THE FUTURE.

22:19>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU,

22:21COUNCILMEMBER. IS THERE ANY

22:23DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? I'LL

22:26RECOGNIZE COUNCIPRESIDENT

22:27PAYNE FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER

22:29CHOWDHURY.

22:29>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

22:31IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT

22:34DEPUTY COO TOPINKA WAS ABLE TO

22:36HAVE A REALLY CONSTRUCTIVE

22:38CONVERSATION WITH LRO AND HOW

22:39THEY COULD WORK TOGETHER ON

22:42DELIVERING ON THIS LEGISLATIVE

22:45DIRECTIVE. IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE

22:48FROM A GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE

22:50PERSPECTIVE WE WOULDN'T

22:51NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO CODIFY

22:53THAT WITHIN ONE LEGISLATIVE

22:55DIRECTIVE, SO I HAD JUST A SIDE

22:57BAR CONVERSATION WITH THE

22:58CLERKS. IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO

22:59DO A FOLLOW- STAFF DIRECTION

23:01JUST TO FORMALIZE THAT

23:03PARTNERSHIP WITH LRO, BUT I JUST

23:05WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

23:06BUT I SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATIVE

23:10DIRECTIVE.

23:10>> THANK YOU. NEXT I'LL

23:12RECOGNIZE CHAIR CHOWDRY.

23:14>>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER

23:16CHUGHTAI. THANK YOU,

23:17COUNLMEMBER VETAW FOR BRINGING

23:20THIS FORWARD. HAPPY TO JOIN ON

23:23AS A COAUTHOR. I THINK THE

23:24THING THAT I WANTED TO JUST

23:27HIGHLIGHT IS WHAT I SAID IN

23:28BUDGET COMMITTEE WHEN THIS WAS

23:30PRESENTED TO US. I DON'T THINK

23:31THAT THE WAY THAT THIS WAS

23:33BROUGHT FORWARD SETS A GOOD

23:34PRECEDT FOR PLANNING AS A

23:37CITY. WE SHOULDN'T BE TALKING

23:38ABOUT MERGING A WHOLE

23:40DEPARTMENTS IN THE LAST QUARTER

23:41OF THE YEAR WHILE WE'RE HAVING

23:43THOSE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS. IT

23:47MAKES ME WORRY FOR US ONE,

23:49MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS IN

23:51SUCH A RUSHED TIMELINE, BUT TWO,

23:53THE IMPACTS IT HAS ON OUR CITY

23:56STAFF. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I

23:57FELT WAS REALLY MISSING IN THAT

24:02CONVERSATION THAT I HAVE ADDED

24:03INTO THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE

24:06WAS REALLY TOOLING OUT WHAT THE

24:08CHALLENGES AND THE RISKS ARE

24:11ASSOCIATED WITH ANY DEPARTMENT

24:14MERGER, INCLUDED, INCLUDING BUT

24:15NOT LIMITED TO IMPACTS ON CITY

24:17STAFF. I REALLY THINK WE NEED

24:18TO HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE BECAUSE

24:20THERE ARE RISKS AND CHALLENGES

24:22THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH

24:24CONSOLIDATING ANY DEPARTMENT.

24:26THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE THAT'S

24:27GOING TO GET THE SHORT END OF

24:29THE STICK, WHETHER IT'S A, A

24:30PERSON IN A POSITION OR A

24:33PROGRAM OR COMMUNICATION WITHIN

24:35A DEPARTMENT OR CONFIDENCE FROM

24:37OUR CONSTITUENTS. SO HAPPY TO

24:40BE AN AUTHOR ON THIS. LOOKING

24:42FORWARD TO GETTING TS IN

24:44APRIL. I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE

24:45NOT GOING TO BE TAKING THIS

24:47CONVERSATION UP IN THE LAST

24:48QUARTER OF OUR YEAR DURING OUR

24:51BUDGET PROSS. AND AS FOR THE

24:54OTHER ITEM, I'LL BE SHORT. I

24:56THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT

24:58FURTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE

25:00THERE'S ALIGNMENT BETWEEN

25:02DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTS. I AM

25:02CERTAINLY INTERESTED IN THE

25:05CONVERSATION AROUND PARKS AND

25:09PAYROLL. ASSESSORS, AND

25:10HENNEPIN COUNTY AND OUR

25:11ASSESSORS AND OTHER PLACES WHERE

25:13WE HE SHARED SERVICES. AND I

25:14REALLY SEE THIS AS AN

25:16OPPORTUNITY TOO TO SEE HOW

25:19SERVICES BETWEEN BOTH THE

25:22JURISDICTIONS CAN BE MORE

25:24STREAMLINED AND ALSO TALK TO

25:25EACH OTHER BETTER EN IF IT

25:28ISN'T LEADING TO ONE

25:30JURISDICTION TAKG OVER ONE

25:31THING OR NOT.

25:33>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. NEXT I'LL

25:36RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER VETAW.

25:38>>> THK YOU, CHAIR CGHTAI.

25:40FIRST I WANT TO MOVE BOTH OF

25:41THESE ITEMS FOR APPROVAL. BUT

25:46TWO, TO COUNCIL PRESINT

25:47PAYNE'S POINT, I DID HAVE

25:50CONVERSATIONS WITH DEPUTY

25:51TOPINKABOUT THIS. I DON'T

25:52KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO

25:53THIS, DO WE NEED ANOTHER ITEM?

25:55I KNO WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE

25:57ADDING LANGUAGE TO WHAT'S

25:59EXISTING. TO CO COVER WHAT

26:02COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, THE

26:04INCLUDING A LEGISLATIVE

26:05DEPARTMENT IN THIS, BUT I MEAN,

26:07I'M HAPPY IF HE WANTS TO DO THAT

26:09TOO, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

26:13>> CHAIR CHOWDHURY AND

26:13COUNCILMEMBER VETAW, WE DID LOOK

26:17AT ADDING SOME LANGUAGE. THERE

26:20WERE, I MAY DEFER TO THE

26:22ATTORNEYS ON THIS. THERE'S A

26:26LITTLE BIT OF A QUESTION OF THE

26:27RIGHT WAY TO DO THAT AND WHETHER

26:29A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE I THE

26:30APPROPRIATE PLACE TO ADD THAT

26:32LANGUAGE. BUT AS COUNCIL

26:33PRESIDENT PAYNE SAID I HAVE

26:34SPOKEN WITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

26:36HAWKINS ABOUT WORKING

26:37TOGETHEROON THIS SO WE CAN

26:38CERTAINLY WORK TOGETHER WITHOUT

26:39THE LANGUAGE IN THERE, BUT MY

26:42UNDERSTANDING IS IF YOUANTED

26:43TO DIRECT LRO TO WORK WITH US ON

26:45THIS IT WOULD LIKELY NEED TO BE

26:47THROUGH A SEPARATE STAFF

26:48DIRECTIVE BUT I WILL MAYBE DEFER

26:50TO THE ATTORNEYS TO MAKE SURE

26:51THAT'S CORRECT.

26:53>> THANK YOU.

26:54>> THANK YOU.

26:55>> MR. ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU LIKE

26:56TO WEIGH IN?

26:58>> SURE. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR

27:00CHUGHTAI, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW.

27:01YEAH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF

27:03ISSUES WITH DIRECTING LRO

27:05THROUGH A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE.

27:07THE FIRST IS A LEGISLATIVE

27:09DIRECTIVE IS SUBJECT TO VETO BY

27:11THE MAYOR AND IT'S THE COUNCIL'S

27:12PPREROGATIVE TO DIRECT LRO AND

27:16THE MAYOR DOESN GET TO VETO

27:17THAT. AND THE SECOND PART IS ON

27:19THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE IS AS

27:21WELL THE COUNCIL CAN'T DIRECT

27:23THE MAYORO WORK WITH LRO.SO

27:25I THINK THE, EVEN THOUGH HERE

27:27SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY'S IN

27:28AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S THE WAY IT

27:30SHOULD HAPPEN, I THINK THE IDEAL

27:32FROM A GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE

27:33PERSPECTIVE IF YOU WANT TO

27:35FORMALIZE THIS WOULD BE A STAFF

27:37DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO

27:39LRO DIRECTING LRO TO WORK THE

27:41ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE THE

27:42COUNCIL CAN DIRECT LRO.

27:46>> GOT IT. SO COUNCIL PRESIDENT

27:48PAYNE, ARE YOU GOING TO WORK ON

27:50THE LRO?

27:54>> MY INTENTION IS T REACH OUT

27:56TO DIRECTOR HAWKINS AND SEE DO

27:57WE WANT TO DO A STAFF DIRECTION

28:00SPECIFICALLY TO SUPPORT THIS

28:01WORK THAT SOUNDS LIKE

28:02EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH. OR

28:04DO WE ACTUALLY WANT TO COME UP

28:05WITH MAYBE SOME MODIFICATION TO

28:08THE OCEDURE MANUAL THAT JUST

28:09KIND OF BE THIS GLOBAL POLICY

28:12AROU ENCOURAGING LRO TO WORK

28:14WITH THE ADMINISTRATION WHEN

28:17APPROPRIATE.

28:19>> WHAT?

28:20>> YEAH --

28:20>> I THOUGHT THEWERE WORKING

28:21ON A LARGER, LIKE, ISSUE. I

28:23MEAN, I THOUGHT THIS WAS -- I'M

28:26SORRY, MADAM CHAIR. I THOUGHT

28:27THIS WAS LIKE SPECIFIC TO THIS

28:28ITEM BEFORE US. AND GETTING LRO

28:34INVOLVED.

28:35>> YEAH.

28:35>> IT'S BOTH. IT'S BOTH. I

28:36THINK THIS IS A RECOGNITION

28:39THAT, SORRY, MADAM CHAIR.

28:41>> GO AHEAD, SIR.

28:43>> I THINK THAT IN THIS INSTANCE

28:47, THE, IT'S JUST SPECIFIC TO

28:48THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. BUT

28:50I THINK THAT THIS SPECIFIC

28:53LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE HIGHLIGHTS

28:55A MORE GLOBAL PROCEDURAL ISSUE

28:57THAT WE SHOULD IDENTY OF

28:59WHETHER OR NOT IN THESE

29:00INSTANCES WE'RE, THERE IS MUTUAL

29:02AGREEMENT WITH LRO AND THE

29:04ADMINISTRATION TO WORK TOGETHER,

29:04DO WE WANT TO CODIFY THAT ON A

29:08CASE-BY-CASE BASIS OR DO WE WANT

29:09TO RECOGNIZE THAT IN SOME SORT

29:11OF GLOBAL PROCEDURE MANUAL.

29:14>> I THINK, IS THIS THE REASON

29:16YOU WERE QUEUE,

29:17MR. PRESIDENT?

29:18>> YEAH.

29:18>> OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD.

29:21COUNCILMEMBER VETAW, ANYTHING

29:21ELSE TO ADD.

29:22>> WELL, YEAH, I WANTED TO STICK

29:23TO THE ISSUE THAT'S BEFORE US.

29:24I D'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE

29:26GLOBAL ISSUE. I WANT TO TALK

29:27ABOUT TODAY. AND SO LIKE IF THE

29:31COUNCIL PRESIDENT IS NOT GOING

29:32TO WORK ON SOMHING, I'M HAPPY,

29:34MY OFFICE IS HAPPY TO -- I'M

29:38SURE COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY AND

29:39I COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING

29:41TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THAT

29:43RIGHT NOW AND THE PRESIDENT CAN

29:45WORK ON WHATEVER THE GLOBAL

29:46ISSUE IS.

29:49>> WONDERFUL. I'LL RECOGNIZE

29:49CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

29:51>> YEAH, THAS, MADAM CHAIR.

29:54THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO JUST

29:55JUMP IN TO SAY. I THINK WE CAN

29:57JUST WORK SOMETHING OUT TO MAK

30:00SURE THAT LRO IS ABLE TO

30:01PARTICIPATE IN THIS WITH OUR

30:03STRUCTURE FOR THURSDAY SO WE

30:04COULD JUST PASS THESE TOGETHER.

30:08LITERALLY MESSAGING AMY ABOUT IT

30:08RIGHT NOW.

30:10>> ALL RIGHT, SOUNDS LIKE WE

30:12FOUND A SOLUTION THAT EVERYONE

30:13IS AMENABLE TO. AWESOME.

30:17COUNCILMEMBER VETAW HAS MOVED

30:19APPROVAL OF BOTH OF THESE

30:20LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVES. I WANT

30:21TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A SECOND.

30:23>> SECOND.

30:24>> WONDERFUL. ON THE MOTION TO

30:25APPROVE THESE, ALL THOSE IN

30:26FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING

30:27AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

30:31ANY ABSTENTIONS?

30:33THE AYES HAVE IT AND THAT MOTION

30:35CARRIES. WE WILL NOW PROCE TO

30:38OUR PUBLIC HEARING. BEFORE

30:40THAT, A QUICK REMINDER FOR

30:42MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO MAY

30:43WISH TO SPEAK. PLEASE SIGN UP

30:45WITH THE CLERKS IN THE HALLWAY.

30:48ADDITIONALLY, FOR EVERYONE

30:49WATCHING AND THOSE WHO MAY

30:50PARTICIPATE IN OUR PUBLIC

30:51HEARINGS, LET ME OFFER THIS

30:53NOTICE. THESE HEARINGS ARE

30:54BEING RECORDED AND BROADCAST.

30:57BOTH THE RECORDING AND BROADCASA

31:00UNDER THE MINNESOTA GOVERNMENT

31:02DATA PRACTICES ACT. BY

31:04ATTENDING AND PARTICIPATING IN

31:06THESE PROCEEDINGS, YOUR IMAGE

31:07AND ANY TESTIMONY OR INFORMATION

31:09THAT YOU PROVIDE WILL BE SUBJECT

31:11TO DISCLOSURE UNDER THAT LAW.

31:13THAT INCLUDES BUT IS NOT LIMITED

31:15TO YOUR ATTENDAE, YOUR NAME,

31:16AND OTHER PERSONAL DETAILS YOU

31:18PROVIDE, AS WELL AS ANY

31:20TESTIMONY OR COMMENTS YOU

31:22PROVIDE WHICH INCLUDES ANY

31:23WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS YOU MAKE

31:24WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD

31:25OF THIS MEETING. OUR PUBLIC

31:28HEING TODAY IS RELATED TO OUR

31:30GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE

31:31IMPLEMENTATION ORDINANCE. I

31:32WILL FIRST INVITE THE ORDINANCE

31:34AUTHORS TO MAKE SOME OPENING

31:36REMARKS BEFORE WE FORMALLY OPEN

31:38UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR THIS

31:41I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL

31:42PRESIDENT PA PAYNE.

31:46>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR

31:48CHUGHTAI. AND I THINK WE HAVE A

31:49PRESENTATION GETTI PULLED UP

31:51RIGHT NOW. BUT WHILE THAT

31:52PRESENTATION'S GETTING PULLEDP

31:55, I'LL JUST SET THE STAGE. THE

31:57MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET THA

31:58WAS RELEASED IN AUGUST HAD SOME

32:02MEANINGFUL CHANGES TO BOTH

32:02PROGRAMMING AND STRUCTURE FOR

32:04THE CITY. ON THE PROGRAMMING

32:05SIDE, WE SAW THINGS LIKE THE

32:08ELIMINATION OF THE HOME GROWN

32:11MINNEAPOLIS PROGRAM. WHICH

32:14DOESN'T IMPACT ANY STRUCTURAL

32:15ELEMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE. BUT

32:18THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET

32:20DID ELIMINATE THE PERFORMANCE

32:22MANAGEMENT AND INNOVATION

32:24DEPARTMENT AND THE RACE, EQUITY,

32:27AND INCLUSION AND BONGING

32:29DEPARTMENT. AND IT WASN'T

32:30ABANDONING THAT WORK. IT WAS

32:32JUST STRUCTURALLY CONSOLIDATING

32:33THAT WORK IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF

32:36THE INSTITUTION UNDER THE

32:37MAYOR'S BUDGET. IT WAS MOVING

32:39REIB INTO HR, AND PMI INTO OPS.

32:43OUR WORK IS SOMEWHAT IN

32:46ALIGNMENT WITH THAT WITH PMI AND

32:50REIB WITH THE DISTINCTION WITH

32:52REIB INSTEAD OF IT MOVING TO THE

32:53HR DEPARTMT, WHICH IS A VERY

32:55INTERNALLY FOCUSED DEPARTMENT,

32:57OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE

32:58THIS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND

33:01COMMUNITY RELATIONS DEPARTMENT

33:04AS, ONE OF THE PILLARS ON HOW

33:06WE'RE ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY.

33:07AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS SOME

33:09STRONG ALIGNMENT BETWEEN REIB

33:10AND NCR AND THINK THAT THAT IS A

33:12GOOD HOME TO CONTINUE DELIVERING

33:14THAT WORK. DID YOU WANT TO PULL

33:15THERESENTATION UP? OKAY. ALL

33:18RIGHT. O WHAT IS DIFFERENT

33:21ABOUT OUR PROPOSED CHANGES? THE

33:23BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS THE

33:26ELIMINATION OF THE OFFICE OF

33:27COMMUNITY SAFETY. HOWEVER, I

33:29WILL SAY SIMILAR TO PMI AND

33:32REIB, THIS IS NOT A RETREAT FROM

33:34THE GOALS OF OCS. IT'S A, IT'S

33:39A REFLECTION THAT UNDER THE

33:41CHARTER AMENDMENT FOR A STRONG

33:43MAYOR, THERE WAS NOT A CREATION

33:45OF AN OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

33:46SAFETY. AND HAS BEEN A MAJOR

33:48STRUCTURAL BARRIER IN HOW THAT

33:50WORK GETS EXECUTED. AND I THINK

33:52FIRST AMONG THAT I WHAT WE SAW

33:55WITH POLICE OVEIGHT AND THE

33:58ROLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVING

33:59LIMITATIONS BASED ON THE

34:00CHARTER. WE STILL VERY MUCH

34:02BELIEVE IN A COMPREHENSIVE

34:04APPROACH TO COMMUNITY SAFETY,

34:06BUTE ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE

34:09THAT THE CREDIBILITY OF THA

34:11DEPARTMENT WAS CHALLENGED BY THE

34:13MISMATCH BETWEEN WHAT WAS

34:14REPRESENTED IN THE CHARTER AND

34:15WHAT WAS REPRESENTED IN THIS

34:17ORDINANCE. AND SO WE WANT TO

34:21HAVE THESE SAFETY DEPARTMENTS

34:22STILL WORKING COLLABORATIVELY,

34:24BUT RECOGNIZE THAT THEY WILL

34:26REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR AND

34:28IMPORTANTLY, IN THE LANGUAGE OF

34:29OUR ORDINANCE, IT'S THE MAYOR OR

34:31THE MAYOR'S DESIGNEE WHICH

34:32ACTUALLY OFFERS THE

34:33FLEXIBILITIES FOR HOW TO

34:35STRUCTURE HOW THOSE DEPARTMENTS

34:36WORK TOGETHER. AND ACTUALLY

34:40GIVESP SOME OF THE POWER OF

34:42COUNCIL TO THE MAYOR TO MAKE

34:43THOUGH DECISIONS. AND IN

34:43ADDITION WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO

34:48COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY

34:51COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY HAS

34:52BROUGHT AN AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU

34:53THAT SHE WILL BE INTRODUCING

34:55CLAWCLARIFYING THE SCOPE

34:58OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY

34:59DEPARTMENT.

34:59AND WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

35:00SO AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS

35:03REALLY, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE

35:04HISTORY OF THIS. I 2021, THERE

35:08WAS A QUESTION ON THE, A BALLOT

35:09QUESTION TO CREATE A STRONG

35:11MAYOR SYSTEM ALSO KNOWN AS

35:13LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL EXECUTIVE

35:15MAYOR. THERE WAS ALSO A BALLOT

35:16QUESTION ON CREATING A

35:18DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

35:19THAT WOULD'VE AMENDED THE

35:20CHARTER AS WELL. TO DELIVER ON

35:22THIS COMPREHENSIVE VISION OF

35:25PUBLIC SAFETY. AS WE ALL KNOW,

35:28QUESTION 1, THE STRONG MAYOR

35:31QUESTION PASSED. QUESTION 2 THE

35:32DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY DID

35:34NOT PREVAIL WITH THE VOTERS. SO

35:36A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING

35:37TO YOU TODAY IS ACTUALLY IN

35:39ALIGNMENT WITH TT OUTCOME IN

35:422021. AND WHAT YOU SEE IS A

35:44SCREEN ST ON THIS PRESENTATION

35:46IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE SNIPPET

35:48FROM THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE

35:49TRANSITION WORK GROUP REPORT

35:50FROM MARCH OF 2022. IT OUTLINED

35:53THREE POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO

35:56CONSIDER. ONE WAS RULED OUT,

35:57WHICH WAS THE DEPUTY MAYOR

35:59SYSTEM. BUT THE CHARTER

36:01COMMSION DID RECOMMEND

36:03CONSIDERING OPTION 2, WHICH IS

36:04IN FRONT OF YOU, WHICH IS THE

36:05CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE CHIEF

36:07OPERATING OFFICER WITH ALL

36:09DEPARTMENTS REPORTING TO THE CO.

36:13ANOTHER OPTION THAT WAS ALSO

36:14PRESENTEDOR CONSIDERATION WAS

36:16A CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER WITH

36:20MOST DEPARTMENTS REPORTING TO

36:21THE COO WITH SELECT DEPARTMENTS

36:23REPORTING DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR.

36:25WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ACTUALLY

36:29DELIVERING EXACTLY ON THAT. BY

36:31HAVING THE SAFETDEPARTMENTS

36:32REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR OR

36:33THE MAYOR'S DESIGNEE. THIS

36:35GIVES THE MAYOR THE OPTIONALITY

36:37TO CHOOSE HOW TO STRUCTURE WHO

36:39THOSE DEPARTMENTS REPORT TO AND

36:42THE MAYOR IS NOT CONSTRAINED BY

36:44ORDINANCE. THIS PROPOSAL IS

36:45VERY MUCH GROUNDED IN THE BELIEF

36:47THAT THE CHARTER IS WHAT REALLY

36:49SHOULD BE GUIDING THIS WORK, AND

36:51IN FACT, WHEN WE PASSED THI

36:53ORDINANCE IN 2022 THERE WAS A

36:55ROBRS CONVERSATION WITH THE

36:57CHARTER COMMISSION AROUND

36:59PURSUING STRUCTURE CHANGE BY

37:00ORDINANCE SO THAT WE CAN LEARN

37:03LESSONS ALONG THE WAY AND REFINE

37:04IT. IT WAS THE TRY BEFORE YOU

37:06BUY APPROACH TO GOVERNANCE

37:08STRUXTURE AND THAT'S WHAT ♪THIS

37:10PROPOSAL REPRESENTS. IF YOU GO

37:14TO THE NEXT SLIDE. T THERE

37:16HAS JUST BEEN SIGNIFICANT

37:17CHALLENGES WITH THE OFFICEF

37:18COMMUNITY SAFETY. WHETHER

37:21THAT'S THE POLICE BUDGET GOING

37:25SIGNIFICANTLY OVER, AND AGAIN,

37:26THERE CAN BE ARGUMENTS ABOUT THE

37:27VALIDITY OF THAT, BUT I THINK

37:29WHAT I WOULD'VE EXPECTED OUT OF

37:32ADMINISTRATION OVER THE POLICE

37:33DEPARTMENT WOULD BE SOME AT

37:35LEAST PROACTIVE COMMUNICATION

37:37AND TRANSPARENCY ABOUT HOW THAT

37:38BUDGET WAS GOING OVER. WE'VE

37:43SEEN CHALLENGES WITH CONTRACTOR

37:45MANAGEMENT, AND WE'VE JUST SEEN

37:47CHALLENGES WITH HOW EACH OF THE

37:49DEPARTMENTS THAT REPORT THROUGH

37:52OCS EXECUTE AGAINST CLEAR,

37:54MEASURABLE GOALS, AND SO WHAT WE

37:55WANT TO DO IS ACTUALLY RECOGNIZE

37:59THAT THE CHARTER HAS CREATED A

38:02SINGULAR EXECUTIVE IN CHARGE

38:03THAT SETS STRATEGICIRECTION.

38:06THAT LIES WITH THE MAYOR, AND WE

38:08ALSO ARE CONTINUING TOE

38:11COMMITTED TO A COMPREHENSIVE

38:12APPROACH TO PUBLIC SAFETY WITHIN

38:15THOSE CHARTER LIMITATIONS. AND

38:17WITH THAT I'LL HAND IT OFF TO MY

38:20COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER

38:21WONSLEY.

38:21>> THANK YOU, PRESIDENTAYNE.

38:22NOW THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES I

38:25THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, 1,

38:26CORAST TO ASPIRATIONS THAT WAS

38:28ATTACHED TO THIS DEPARTMENT WHEN

38:29IT WAS CREATED NEARLY FOUR YEARS

38:31AGO. AND THEN PAIRING THAT WITH

38:33THE FOUR YEARS OF ACTUAL LIVED

38:36EXPERIENCE AND REALITY THAT

38:38WE'VE HAD WITH THE EXISTENCE OF

38:40TH DEPARTMENT. SO FIRST

38:42STARTING WITH THE PURPOSE AND

38:43GOAL OF OCS WAS INITIALLY MEANT

38:46TO EFFECTIVELY MANAGE AND

38:48COORDITE PUBLIC SAFETY

38:49SERVICES AS WELL AS PROVIDE A

38:51COORDINATED PUBLIC SAFETY

38:52APPROACH THAT PROVIDES CLEAR

38:54LEADERSHIP, STRUCTURES, A CHAIN

38:55OF COMMAND, AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

38:57NOW, THE CONSEQUENCES OF OCS'S

39:00FAILED OVERSIGHT, SPECIFICALLY

39:03OVER MPD, ARE PARTICULARLY

39:05EVIDENT AS THE DEPARTMENT

39:06CONTINUES TO OPERATE IN A SILO

39:08WITH VERYITTLE MEANINGFUL

39:11ACCOUNTABILITY TAKING PLACE. EVS

39:15ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE PAST THAT

39:17THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT FALLS

39:18UNDER OCS HAVE BYPASSED THE

39:21OFFICE AND HAVE SOUGHT OUT

39:23DIRECTION FROM THE MAYOR HIMSELF

39:25RAISING SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT

39:27OCS'S AUTHORITY, AND

39:28EFFECTIVENESS IN OVERSEEING

39:29PUBLIC SAFETY ORATIONS. NOW

39:32THESE FAILURES IN LEADERSHIP

39:34HAVE ALSO HINDEREDHE CITY'S

39:37PROGRESS AND THE CITY'S

39:40COMMITMENT AND REQUIREMENT OF

39:40BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE

39:43SETTLEMENTGREEMENT. AND THIS

39:44HAS BEEN AFFIRMED IN MULTIPLE

39:46PROGRESS REPORTS FROM THEITY'S

39:48INDEPENDENT MONITOR ELEFA WHICH

39:50IS CONSISTENTLY REPORTED THE

39:51POOR MANAGEMENT OF SETTLEMENT

39:54AGREEMENT IMPLEMENTATION WHICH

39:54AGAIN HAS BEEN A KEY CHAE AND

39:57RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OFFICE OF

39:58COMMUNITY SAFETY. I THINK IT'S

39:59IMPORTANT TO NAME THAT POOR

40:01COORDINATION IS NOT JUST

40:03ISOLATED TO THE SETTLEMENT

40:04AGREEMENT. BUT OTHER CRITICAL

40:06PRIORITIES THAT FALL UNDER THIS

40:07OFFICE AS WELL, SCIFICALLY WE

40:10SAW MPD OFFICERS REFUSING TO

40:12COMPLY WITH AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT

40:15OF ALLISON LUSSIER AND DAVIS

40:18MOTURI AND THE COST OF THAT

40:21NONCOMPLIANCE WAS AN ADDITIONAL

40:22$100,000 OF TAX PAIRER MONEY.

40:23SO WHETHER THE ISSUE IS LARGE

40:25AND COMPLEX LIKE THE SETTLEMENT

40:26AGREEMENT OR AS SIMPLE AS

40:28MANAGING ONE TO TWO EMPLOYEES TO

40:29COMPLY WITH THE AUDIT, THE

40:31OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY HAS

40:33STRUGGERED TO PROVIDE THE

40:35EFFECTIVE DIRECTION AND

40:36LEADERSHIP REQUIRED TO GET

40:37MEASURABLE RESULTS FROM THIS

40:38OFFICE. NOW NEXT SLIDE. SO

40:42AGAIN ANOTHER ASPIRATION OFOFFIE

40:46CITY'S CREDIBILITY AND PUBLIC

40:47UST. ESPECIALLY KNOWING WE

40:48HAD DECADES OF PUBLIC OR POLICE

40:51BRUTALITY AND ALSO THE MDER OF

40:52GEORGE FLOYD WHICH LED TO THE

40:54CITY LOSING SIGNIFICANT

40:56CREDIBILY AND PUBLIC TRUST.

40:56AND AGAIN, OCS WAS PITCHED AS A

40:59WAY TO RESTORE THAT TRUST, AND

41:01TO DO SO BY PROVIDING EQUITABLE,

41:03HIGH QUALITY PUBLIC SAFETY

41:04SERVICES TO ALL OF OUR

41:07RESIDENTS. YET SINCE ITS

41:09INCEPTION IT HAS FUELED DEEP

41:10SKEPTICISM ABOUT THE CITY'S

41:12SERIOUSNESS ABOUT ADVANCING BOTH

41:14PUBLIC SAFETY REFORM AS WELL AS

41:16PUBLIC SAFETY BEYOND POLICING.

41:18NOW, THIS SLIDE INCLUDES SEVERAL

41:21HIGH PROLE INCIDENTS WHERE THE

41:22OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY FELL

41:25ON A MULTIPLE NUMBE OF FRONTS.

41:27SPECIFICALLY THE ANTIHUMAN

41:29TRAFFICKING RFP NEARLY RESULTED

41:31IN THE CITY CONTRACTING WITH AN

41:36ORGANIZATION THAT WAS ASSOCIATED

41:38WI A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION FOR

41:40HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND SEXUAL

41:42MISCONDUCT. THIS INCIDEN WAS A

41:44PUBLIC EMBARRASSMENT THAT

41:45DAMAGED THE CITY'S CREDIBILITY

41:46AROUND PROTECTING VICTIMS AND

41:49MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES,

41:50DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY

41:51HUMAN TRAFFICKING. AND OCS

41:54UNQUESTIONINGLY SUPPORTED THIS

41:55CONTRACT UNTIL CROWNL OVERSIGHT

42:00AS WELL AS MEDIA OUTCRY BROUGHT

42:02ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER, AND

42:03THEN ULTIMATELY OCS BACKTRACKED

42:06AND DECIDED TO REISSUE THE RFP

42:09AND NOW WE HAVE A CREDIBLE

42:11ORGANIZATION THAT'S IN

42:12PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY TO

42:14ADMINISTER THESE SERVICES.

42:15ADDITIONALLY, THERE HAVE BEEN

42:16NUMEROUS COVERAGES OF THE CITY'S

42:18CONTINUED STRUGGLES OVER

42:19CONTRACT MANAGEMENT. MORE

42:22SPECIFICALLY IT HASN'T HAPPENED

42:23BECAUSE OF LACK OF RESOURCES

42:25DEDICATED BY THIS COUNCIL. IN

42:26FACT THE CITY COUNCIL GAVE OCS

42:29MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO

42:31DEDICATE RESOURCES TO PREVENT

42:32WASTE, FRAUD, AND ABUSE, AND

42:35INSTEAD, OCS ASKED THE COUNCIL

42:37TO WITHDRAW BUDGET AMENDMENT

42:38THAT WOULD HAVE PROVIDED OUR

42:40NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT

42:41SPECIFICALLY WITH A FINANCIAL

42:43DIRECTOR TO MANAGE CONTRACTS AND

42:45OCS KNEW THE DEPARTMENT WAS

42:47HAVING SERIOUS COMPLIANCE

42:49PROBLEMS, YET MADE ITSELF A

42:50BARRIER TO FIXING THOSE PROBLEMS

42:52INSTEAD OF A SOLUTION. AND

42:54AGAIN WE'VE SEEN QUESTIONABLE

42:56CONTRACTS CONTINUE FORWARD UNDER

42:58OCS. AND HAVE RECEIVED APPROVAL

43:00BY ITS COMMISSIONER. FOR

43:02EXAMPLE, A CONTRACT WAS SIGNED

43:03BY THE COMMISSIONER INVOLVING

43:04THE FORMER NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY

43:07DIRECTOR WHO GAVE THEIR

43:08BOYFRIEND A CONTRACT. AND TO

43:10THIS DAY THE OUTCOMES OF THAT

43:12CONTRACT HAVE NOT BEEN PRESENTED

43:13TO THE COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC TO

43:15JUSTIFY ITS USE OF TAXPAYER

43:17DOLLARS. OCS ALSO REPEATEDLY

43:19ALLOWED WILDLY SUCCESSFUL

43:20PROGRAMS LIKE OUR GROUP --

43:23INTERVENTION AND YOUTH GROUP

43:25VIOLENCE INTERVEION PROGRAMS

43:25TO BE UNDERMINED AND ALMOST

43:27ELIMINATED. DUE TO POOR

43:30CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AND PUBLIC

43:31DISTRUST. AND COUNCIL OVERSIGHT

43:33WAS ULTIMATELY REQUIRED TO

43:35RESTORE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE

43:37WITH NATIONAL PROVIDERS THA

43:38HELPED GET THOSE PROGRAMS BACK

43:40ON TRACK. I THINK IT'S

43:41IMPORTANT TO ALSO GO BACK TO THE

43:43EXAMPLE OF THE DEVASTATING

43:44EXPERIENCES OF DAVIS MOTURI,

43:48ALLISON, LUSSIER AND EVEN MUROIA

43:50SAMUELS WHICH -- THE

43:51CONSEQUENCES OF INADEQUATE

43:53OVERCITE OF MPD. THERE ARE NOT

43:54ABSTRACT TO JUST THE OVERALL

43:56LACK OF LEADERSHIP FROM OCS.

43:59THESIMPACTS HAVE REAL LIFE

44:04ALTERING EXPERIENCES AND

44:05REALITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND

44:07OCS WAS ESTABLISHED IN PART TO

44:08PROVE THAT OVERSIGHT AND

44:09ACCOUNTABILITY YET MPD'S FAILURE

44:12TOCT AND RESPOND EQUITABLY TO

44:14VICTIMS SUCH AS THE ONES I JUST

44:16MED, HAS ALSO RAISED SERIOUS

44:18QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THAT

44:20OVERSIGHT WAS EVER MEANINGFULLY

44:22EXERCISED BY OCS. AND IN

44:24ADDITION TO THESE EXAMPLES I

44:25THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE

44:26THAT THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

44:28SAFETY HAS SHOWN THROUOUT

44:29AGAIN ITS NEARLY FOUR YEARS OF

44:31EXISTENCE TO BE THE,

44:32DISCONNECTED FROM THE REATY OF

44:34OUR RESIDENTS AND THE PUBLIC AS

44:36A WHOLE. MORE SPECIFICALLY,

44:37WE'VE SEEN THE OFFICE OF

44:38COMMUNITY SAFETY ADVANCE

44:39CONTRACTS FOR THINGS THAT THE

44:40PUBLIC SIMPLY WAS NOT ASKING FOR

44:43SUCH AS SKYDIO DRONES,

44:46PERCEPTIONS SURVEYI CONTRACTS,

44:47AND MPD MOTORCYCLES. THESE WERE

44:50NOT THINGS THATNYONE WAS

44:52ASKING FOR, AND IN SOME CASES,

44:53ACTUALLY WENTGAINST OUR

44:55PRIORITIES OF OUR RESIDENTS N

44:57AND THE PUBLIC. NEXT SLIDE,

44:59PLEASE. NOW AGAIN OCS WAS

45:03PITCHED TO THE PUBLIC AS AN

45:06OFFICE THAT WOULD MANAGE AND

45:07COORNATE PUBLIC SAFETY

45:08SERVICES AND GUIDE THE CITY IN

45:09FULFILLING ITS COMMITMENTS TO

45:10CREATING A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC

45:11SAFETY SYSTEM. NOW, DESPITE

45:14SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INVESTMENTS

45:15AND THE PROMISE OF A MORE

45:18COORDINATED, INNOVATIVE APPROACH

45:18TO PUBLIC SAFETY, OCS HAS FALLEN

45:21SHORT ON MULTIPLE FRONTS. WE

45:22HAVE YET TO SEE MEANINGFUL

45:24OSS-DEPARTMENT COLLABORATION

45:26AND INNOVATIVE SAFETY N

45:28INITIATIVES THAT WERE SUPPOSEDLY

45:29CREATED TO JUSTIFY THE CREATION

45:31OF THUS OFFICE. IN FACT TWO

45:33YEARS AGO SAW THIS PLAY OUT WHEN

45:35CITY COUNCIL INVESTED IN THE

45:37COMMUNITY SAFETY AMBASSADORS IN

45:38HATE CRIME PREVENTION

45:40INITIATIVES IN DIRECT RESPONSE

45:42TO RESIDENTS' RAISING CONCERNS

45:43ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS THAT

45:44WERE GOING UNADDRESSED. YET

45:46WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION SOUGHT

45:49FUNDING FOR THE MOST RECENT

45:51$19 MILLION POLICE CONTRACT, THE

45:53OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY

45:55PROPOSED ELIMINATING THESE VERY

45:56INVESTMENTS TO HELP PAY FOR

45:58POLICE RAISES. FORTUNATELY,

46:00CITY COUNCIL REJECTED THAT

46:02RECOMMENDATION, AND PROTECTED

46:03THESE PROGRAMS. AND NOW TODAY

46:04THE COMMUNITY SAFETY AMBASSADOR

46:07PROGRAM HASROVEN TO BE SUPER

46:08SUCCESSFUL AND REMAINS IN SUCH

46:09HIGH DEMAND THAT THE CITY IS NOW

46:11WORKINTO BOTH EXPAND IT AND

46:13BRING IT IN HOUSE. NOW THAT

46:15PROGRESS IS HAS NOT HAPPENED

46:17BECAUSE OF THE OFFICE OF

46:17COMMUNITY SAFETY LEADERSHIP BUT

46:19BUT BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL FUGSED

46:20BACK AGAINST ITS OWN

46:21RECOMMENDATION TO ELIMINATE

46:22THOSE INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS. HAVE

46:24WE FOLLOWE THE OFFICE OF

46:25COMMUNITY SAFETY'S GUIDANCE, WE

46:26HAVE AGAIN, WOULD HAVE

46:28IMINATED SCESSFUL COMMUNITY

46:30BASED SAFETY INITIATIVES TO

46:32FURTHER SUBSIDIZE POLICING. AND

46:34THIS AGAIN RAISES THE

46:35FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION ABOUT

46:37WHETHER OCS IS SANDING --

46:39ADVANCING OUR COMMITTEE'S

46:41COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY

46:41BEYOND POLICING OR STANDING IN

46:42THE WAY OF IT. ADDITIONALLY IT

46:44TOOK NEARLY TWO YEARS OF

46:45SUSTAINED COUNTY OVERSIGHT AND

46:47REPEATED INTERVENTION TO GET THE

46:49ADMINISTRATION TO RESTORE BEST

46:50PRACTICES IN ITS OWN VIOLENCE

46:51PREVENTION WORK. THE COUNCIL

46:52HAD TO WORK PROACTIVELY TO

46:54APPROVE FUNDING FOR TECHNICAL

46:56ASSISTANCE PROVIDERS, TO

46:59STRENGTHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD

46:59SAFETY DEPARTMENT'S PROGRAMS AND

47:02OPERATIONS, YET DESPITE THOSE

47:04RESOURCES BEING AVAILABLE, OCS

47:06STAFF AND LEADERSHIP REFUSED TO

47:07UTILIZE THEM. NOW, RATHER THAN

47:10TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR

47:10ENSURING THOSE RESOURCES WERE

47:12BEING USED EFFECTIVELY, THE

47:15BURDEN REPEATEDLY FL ON CITY

47:16COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY

47:19SHORTCOMECOMINGS, TO DEMAND

47:21CORRECTIVE ACTION AND TO PUSH

47:23OCS AND T AND THE FRYE

47:27ADMINISTRATION TO IMPROVE ITS

47:29PRACTICE. WHY DID IT TAKE

47:30NEARLY TWO YEARS OF COUNCIL

47:31INTERVENTION TO ADDRESS

47:32OPERIONAL ISSUES THAT SHOULD

47:36HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND

47:38RESOLVED THROUGH OCS'S OWN

47:40OVERSIGHT. SO O CS'S FAILURE TO

47:42MANAGE PUBLIC RESOURCES ALSO

47:43BECOME GLARINGLY CLEAR WHEN

47:47MPD'S EXHAUST FEN USE OF

47:48OVERTIME THADZ HASSE CONTINUED

47:49TO PLACE SIGNIFICA FINANCIAL

47:51STRAIN ON -- THAT HAS CONTINUED

47:52TO PLACE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL

47:53STRAIN ON OUR CITY'S OVERALL

47:55FINANCIAL HEALTH. IN FACT MPD'S

47:57OVERTIME COSTS CAN BE TRACKED TO

47:59OCS'S REFUSAL TO FOLLOW UP ON AN

48:01MPD STAFFING STUDY PRESENTED TO

48:03COUNCIL IN 2025 AND THAT

48:03PRESENTED REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR

48:04US AS A CITY TO ADDRESS AND

48:06RIGHT SIZEPD STAFFING NUMBERS

48:08THAT WAS BASED ON DATA BUT

48:11INSTEA OCS DECIDED TO NOT DO

48:13THAT AND HAVE CONTINUED ON WITH

48:15THE PATTERN THAT HAS NOW PUT THE

48:17CITY IN A PLACE AND SPECIFICALLY

48:18MPD IN A PLACE TO CLEAR OUT OUR

48:21CASH RESERVES BECAUSE THERE WAS

48:22NO REAL LEADERSHIP TO ADDRESS

48:23AND CHANGE OUR APPROACH TO

48:26OVERTIME. AND LASTLY, ONE OF

48:27THE CLEAREST EXAMPLES OF OCS

48:29FAILURE TO PROVIDE MEANINGFUL

48:31OVERSIGHT CAME AT THE END OF

48:32LAST YEAR WHENE LEARNED IN

48:34REAL-TIME DURING BUDGET

48:35DELIBERATIONS THAT OCS

48:38LEADERSHIP WAS UNAWARE NAT MPD

48:39WAS ON TRACK TO OVERSPEND ITS

48:41BUDGET BY $20 MILLION. AND THE

48:42FACT THAT THE OFFICE CHARGED

48:44WITH OVERSEEING MPD WAS UNAWARE

48:46OF SUCH A SIGNIFICANT BUDGET

48:48OVERRUN RAISED SERIOUS QUESTIONS

48:50ABOUT ONCE AGAIN WHETHER

48:52MEANINGFUL OVERSIGHT ORACCOUNTAL

48:55WITHIN THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

48:57SAFETY. AND DESPITE MPD

49:00SPENDING $20 MILLION BEYOND ITS

49:01BUDGET, THE DEPARTMEN STILL

49:03RECEIVED DEEPLY CONCERNING

49:05EVALUATIONS FROM THE INDEPENDENT

49:07MONITOR ELEFA REGARDING ITS

49:09PROGRESS. SO WE ARE SPENDING

49:11MILLIONS ON POLICING WITHOUT

49:13SEEING CORRESPONDING

49:14IMPROVEMENTS IN ACCOUNTABILITY,

49:16TRANSPARENCY, AND REFORM THAT

49:19MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS DESER

49:19AND IT'S CLEAR THAT OCS IS NOT

49:22FULFILLING ITS INTENDED PURPOSE

49:23TO DO THAT. OVERSIGHT CANNOT

49:24SIMPLY EXIST ON PAPER T. MUST

49:26PRODUCE REAL ACCOUNTABILITY,

49:28RESPONSIBILITY STOUR STEWARDSHIP

49:29OF PUBLIC DOLLARS, AND

49:31MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENTS IN OURPC

49:34SAFETY SYSTEM. AND THE CAS CADE

49:35OF LEADERSHIP AND ACCOUNTABITY

49:36THAT HAS EXISTED WITHIN OCS IS

49:38COSTING THE CITY MONEY, AND THIS

49:40GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE ORDINANCE

49:42IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REMOVE

49:44BUREAUCRACY AND ADMINISTRATIVE

49:46BLOAT THAT IS INARGUABLY COSTING

49:47THE CITY WAY MORE THAN IT'S

49:49ACTULY WORTH, AND NOT MOVING

49:50US TOWARDS THAT GOAL OF BUILDING

49:52A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC SAFETY

49:55SYSTEM. I'LL SEND IT BACK TO

49:56PRESIDENT PAY.

49:58>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER

49:59WONSLEY. SO HOW WILL THIS

50:00IMPACT RESIDENTS? YOU KNOW, I

50:05REFLECT ON THE CAMPAIGN FOR THE

50:07CHARTER AMENDMENT AND ONE OF THE

50:11CAMPAIGN SLOGANS WAS 14 BOSSES

50:12WHICH DW I FOUND TO BE A

50:15VERY FOCUSEDDIVE SLOGAN BECAUSE

50:17AS -- EFFECTIVE SLOGAN BECAUSE

50:18AS SOMEONE WHO WORKED AS THE

50:19PREDECESSOR TO PMI THAT WAS

50:21EMBEDDED WITHIN THE CITY

50:22COORDINATOR'S OFFICE IT WASN'T

50:23ALWAYS CLEAR WHO WASN CHARGE.

50:29AND WITH THE VOTERS VOTING TOSAF

50:33AUTHORITY TO KNOW WHO'S IN

50:34CHARGE AND WHO WE CAN HOLD

50:35ACCOUNTABLE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT

50:36WE'RE DELIVERING HERE TODAY.

50:38ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE

50:40WIESSED IN THE FOUR YEARS

50:41SINCE WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THIS NEW

50:43GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE IS THAT IN

50:44MANY WAYS WE RE-CREATED THE 14

50:48BOSSES PROBLEM BETWEEN THE

50:50COMMISSIONER, THE COO, THE

50:52DEPUTY COOs, WE'VE CREATED

50:54THAT CONDITION WHERE PEOPLE

50:56DON'T KNOW WHO'S IN CHARGE

50:57DEPENDING ON THE TOPIC

50:59SOMETIMES. WE WANT TO ALWAYS

51:00PROVIDE THAT CLARITY OF WHO IS

51:02IN CHARGE. THAT IS THE MAYOR.

51:04YOU SHOULD ALWAYS UNDERSTAND

51:05THAT UNDER THIS NEW GERNMENT

51:06STRUCTURE, AND I THINK THIS IS A

51:07CULTURAL CHANGE THAT THE ENTIRE

51:10CITY IS ADJUSTI TO. WE HAVE

51:12HUNDRED -- OVER 100 YEARS OF

51:14RESIDENTS OF MINNEAPOLIS KNOWING

51:15THAT THEY CAN GO TO THEIR

51:17COUNCILMEMBER TO GET THEIR

51:18DAY-TOAY ISSUES RESOLVED.

51:20THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT TRUE

51:21ANYMORE. WE WILL CERTAINLY DO

51:22ALL THAT WE CAN TO HELP AND MAKE

51:24SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THEIR

51:25ISSUES TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE, BUT

51:27IT IS ULTIMATELY THE AUTHORITY

51:28OF THE MAYOR TO RESOLVE THOSE

51:31ISSUES AS THE EXECUTIVE OF OUR

51:34DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, SO WHAT

51:35RESIDENTS SHOULD SEE IS IMPROVED

51:36TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY

51:39BY STRIPPING AWAY THAT

51:40UNNECESSARY BUREAUCRATIC LAYER,

51:42AND YOU KNOW, I WILL POINT TO

51:45THE TRANSEQUITY SUMMIT THAT WAS

51:47REIN-STATED AFTER WE MOVED THE

51:50TRANSEQUITY COORDINATOR FROM

51:52REIB TO NCR NCR HAD A MUCH

51:55MORE CAPACITY TO DO SOME OF

51:57THOSE BLIC FACING EQUITY

52:00EXERCISES, AND I THINK THAT BYMG

52:04TO SEE AN AMPLICATION OF THAT

52:05BODY OFORK, ESPECIALLY TO THE

52:07PUBLIC. PMI WAS A VERY

52:09INTERNALLY FOCUSED PERFORMANCE

52:11MANAGEMENT COMPONENT. THE

52:12INNOVATION SIDE THEY DID DO SOME

52:14COMMUNY EBGAMEM

52:16GAMEMENT -- ENGAGEMENT AS WELL.

52:16I THINK THAT THE MAYOR'S

52:18PROPOSAL OF MOVING THAT BODY OF

52:19WORK INTO O PS SHOULD NOT CHANGE

52:21THAT. I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO

52:23BE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT

52:28WHERE ALL THE FTEs LAND, BUT

52:29IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE,

52:30THAT IS A CONRSATION FOR THE

52:32BUDGET MARKUP PROCESS. THESE

52:36PROPOSED CHANGES ARE JUST ABOUT

52:38THE ORDINANCE STRUCTURE. WHERE

52:42FTEs SIT, WHICH FTEs ARE

52:45DOING WHAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE

52:47DETERMINED WITHIN THE BUDGET

52:49MARKUP PROCESS. THIS IS SIMPLY

52:51SAYING LET'S CLARIFY THOSE LINES

52:54OF REPORTING, LET'S RECOGNIZE

52:57THAT THE ABSENCE OF A

52:59COMMISSIONER IN THE CHARTER IS A

53:01BARRIER TO DOING THAT DIRECT

53:04OVEROVERSIGHT OF THOSE

53:06DEPARTMENTS, AND LET'S LOOK

53:07FORWARD TO A MARKUP PROCESS

53:09WHERE WE CAN HAVE A MORE ROBUST

53:11CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE

53:13EVERYBODY SHOULD LAND. NEXT

53:17SLIDE. AND ON THIS I'LL HAND IT

53:19BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY.

53:22>> ACTUALLY,SIDENT PAYNE, I

53:23THINK, DID WE ALSO COVER THE

53:24FUNDING PIECE?

53:26>> YES.

53:26>>H, OKAY,REAT.

53:27>> YES.

53:28>> AWESOME, THANK YOU.

53:29AWESOME.

53:29>> GO AHEAD.

53:30>> THANK YOU. SO I KNOW THIS

53:32HAS BEEN RAISED REPEATEDLY IN

53:35TERMS OF IS THE ELIMINATION OF

53:38OCS ESSENTIALLY ROLLING BACK THE

53:39CI'S COMMITMENT TO ADVANCE

53:42COMPREHENSIVE MODEL PUBLIC

53:44SAFETY? AND IN THE AFTERMATH OF

53:46GEORGE FLOYD, AGAIN, YES,

53:47MINNEAPOLIS DID MAKE

53:49COMMITMENT TO FUNDAMENTALLY

53:51REIMAGINE A PUBLICAFETY AND

53:53HOW IT LOOD IN OUR CITY AND TO

53:54BUILD A SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT

53:56SOLELY RELY ON POLICING. AND

53:58THAT COMMITMENT WAS MORE THAN

54:00JUST CREATING NEW PROGRAMS. IT

54:02WAS ABOUT TRANSFORMING HOW THE

54:04CITY RESPONDS TO CRISIS. INVEST

54:07IN PREVENTION, AND MEET THE

54:08NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND I

54:12WANT TO NAME SPECIFICALLY AND

54:13GIVE FLOWERS TO THE COUNCIL,

54:17WHICH CONSTANTLY TURNED THAT

54:18COMMITMENT IO ACTION BY

54:19CHAMPIONING SAFETY SERVICE

54:20ALTERNATIVES LIKE THE BEHAVIORAL

54:22CRISIS RESPONSE, AND THE

54:25COMMUNITY SAFETY AMBASSADORS

54:27PROGRAM. AND I AM SO DEEPLY

54:29PROUD THAT THIS COUNCILAS

54:31CONTINUED TO ADVANCE THIS WORK

54:32OVER THE YEARS, AND OFTENTIMES

54:35AS I TALKED ABOUTREVIOUSLY, IN

54:39SPITE OF THE OICE OF COMMUNITY

54:42SAFETY ESSENTIALLY ACTING AS A

54:43BARRIER T THAT WORK. AND BEING

54:48A HINDRANCE. AND THAT

54:50COMMITMENT AMONGST THIS BODY HAS

54:51DEMONSTRATED THAT PUBLIC SAFETY

54:53BEYOND POLICING IS NOT JUST A

54:55VISION. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT

54:56WE CAN BUILD AND SUSTAIN, AND I

54:58CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE,

55:00BUT I KNOW MY COMMITMENT TO THAT

55:02VISION REMAINS UNWAVERING. BUT

55:04FULFILLING IT DOES NOT REQUIRE

55:06MAINTAINING THE OFFICE OF

55:07COMMUNIT SAFETY. IN FACT, ONCE

55:09AGAIN, I BELIEVE ITS CURRENT

55:10STRUCTURE HAS BECOME A BARRIER

55:12TO THE VERY TRANSFORMATIONECOMME

55:14FIRST PLACE. AND REMOVING THAT

55:19BARRIER WOULD CREATE

55:20OPPORTUNITIES FOR GREATER

55:21COLLABORATION, FOR

55:21ACCOUNTABILITY WE HAVE NOT SEEN

55:22PREVAIL UNDER THIS OFFICE, AND

55:24FOR CONTINUED INVESTMENT TO

55:25ALTERNATIVES POLICING INSTEAD OF

55:27HAVING AN OFFICE THAT'S ALWAYS

55:28RECOMMENDING THAT WE MAKE

55:30INVESTMENTS GO TOWARDS

55:31TRADITIONAL POLICING AS OPPOSED

55:33TO BROADER RESPONSES THAT

55:34ACTUAL GIVE OUR RESIDENTS WHAT

55:36THEY NEED AT THE RIGHT TIME WHEN

55:39THEY'RE EXPERIENCING UNFORTUNATE

55:40EVENTS AND CRISES. AND THIS

55:42SLIDE ONCE AGAIN HIGHLIGS

55:43SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF HOW THE

55:45COUNCIL HAS WORKED INDEPENDENTLY

55:46OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

55:48SAFETY TO ESTABLISH, FUND, AND

55:51STRENGTHSEN PUBLIC SAFETY

55:51PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, AND THESE

55:53EFFORTS DEMONSTRATE THAT OUR

55:55PROGRESS HAS NEVER BEEN

55:57DEPENDENT ON THE OFFICE OF

55:58COMMUNIT SAFETY'S EXISTENCE.

56:00AND OUR COMMITMENT TO BUILDING A

56:01PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM THAT'S BOTH

56:04COMPREHENSIVE AND DOES NOT RY

56:05ON TRADITIONAL POLICING DOES NOT

56:06HAVE TO END WITH IT. SHOULD WE

56:09MOVE FORWARD WITH ELIMINATING

56:11THIS OFFICE. AND WITH THAT, I

56:13BELIEVE OUR NEXT SLIDE IS FOR

56:16ANY QUESTIONS, AND I WILL MOVE

56:17FORWARD THIS ITEM WITH APPROVAL,

56:19BUT AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE

56:22NAMED, THERE IS ALSO AMENDMENT

56:23IN FRONT OF YOU, WHICH SEEKS TO

56:26CLARIFY AND STRENGTHEN THE ROLE

56:28OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY

56:30DEPARTMENT IN ADVANCING

56:31MINNEAPOLIS COMMITMENT TO

56:32BUILDING A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC

56:34SAFETY SYSTEM THAT GOE BEYOND

56:35POLICING. AND THIS LANGUAGE

56:37REFLECTS EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS

56:39WITH STAFF, COMMUNITY MEMBERS,

56:40AND COLLEAGUES AS WELL AS A

56:42REVIEW OF ORDINANCES FM OTHER

56:44CITIES WITH SIMILARLY STRUCTURED

56:46OFFICES OF VIOLENCE PREVEION

56:47AND NEIBORHOOD SAFETY

56:49DEPARTMENTS. IMPORTANTLY, THIS

56:51AMENDMENT ESTABLISH CLEAR

56:52EXPECTATIONS FOR HOW THE

56:53DEPARTMENT CARRIES OUT ITS WORK,

56:55BY CODIFYING A PUBLIC HEALTH

56:57APPROACH TO VIOLENCE PREVENTION,

56:59PRIORITIZING EVIDENCE-BASED

57:01STRATEGIES, AND REQUIRING DATA

57:02INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT

57:05RESOURCE ALLOCATION. WE ARE

57:06ADDRESSING PAST CHALLENGES

57:07WITHIN NSD WHILE CREATING A

57:10STRONGER FOUNDATION FOR

57:12TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY,

57:13AND EFFECTIVENESS. AND ALSO

57:14WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE DIRECTOR

57:16HARRINGTON'S LEADERSHIP IN

57:17SHARPENING THE DEPARTMENT'S

57:19FOCUS ON GUN VIOLENCE

57:20PREVENTION. AND THAT WORK IS

57:21CRITALLY IMPORTANT. AND

57:23DAIMENT, OUR VISION FOR PUB --

57:25AT THE SAME TIME OUR VISION FOR

57:27PUBLIC SAFETY BEYOND POLICING

57:28MUST BE BROADER THAN ANY SINGLE

57:29ISSUE OR INTERVENTION, AND THIS

57:30AMENDMENT ENSURES THAT

57:31NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT

57:31HAS THE FLEXIBILITY TO EXPAND

57:34ITS SCOPE AND SUPPORT ADDITIONAL

57:36COMMUNITY BASED SAFETY SERVICES

57:38AN STRATEGIES THAT OUR CITY AND

57:40RESIDENTS NEED ESPECIALLY AS WE

57:42CONTINUE TO EVOLVE THIS WORK.

57:44AND ULTIMATELY IT'S ABOUT

57:45BUILDING A DEPARTMENT THAT IS

57:45NOT ONLY RESPONSIVE TO PUBLIC

57:47SAFETY CHALLENGES WE FACE TODAY,

57:48BUT AGAIN THAT IS EQUIPPED TO

57:50HELP REALIZE THE BROADER

57:53TRANSFORMATION OF THE CITY'S

57:55PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM. THAT OUR

57:56CITY COMMITTED TO IN THE

57:58AFTERMATH OF GEORGE FLOYD'S

57:59MURDER. SO WITH THAT, I WILL

58:01MOVE FORWARD THE ORDINANCE AS

58:03AMENDED, AND WOULD ASK FOR A

58:05SECOND.

58:06>> SECOND.

58:08>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR

58:12THIS PRESENTATION, AUTRS. I

58:14WILL NOW PROCEED TOOPEP UP THIS

58:15PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE IF ANYONE

58:16HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I SEE

58:21WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP

58:23HERE TODAY. IF ANYONE ELSE IS

58:24WISHING TO OFFER TESTIMONY

58:26TODAY, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO

58:27COME INTO OUR CHAMBERS AND SIGN

58:30UP WITH THE CLERKS TO MY RIGHT

58:34AND WE WOULD BE, WE WILL

58:38WELCOME YOUO SPEAK AFTER THE

58:40REGISTERED SPEAKERS. I WILL

58:43FIRST WELCOME MR. PETER GINDER

58:46FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN TERRELL. DO

58:50YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO OFF

58:51YOUR TESTIMONY. THE TIMESER

58:52OVER THERE, AND WILL INTERRUPT

58:53YOU IF YOU GO PAST TWO MINUTES.

58:59WELCOME.

58:59>>> CHAIR CHUGHTAI, MEMBE OF

59:00THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS PETER

59:01GINDER, I'M A RESIDENT OF THE

59:0311th WARD. I'M HERE TO SPEAK

59:05AGAINST THE ELIMINATION OF THE

59:07OFFICE OF PUBLIC SAFY -- OF

59:11COMMUNITY SAFETY. FOR THOSE WHO

59:12DON'T KNOW ME, I WORK FOR THE

59:14CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR 35

59:16YEARS RETIRING IN 2016. 13 OF

59:20THOSE YEARS AS A CIVIL DEPUTY.

59:22I ALSO CAME BACK TO THE CITY AS

59:24INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY IN 2022,

59:26AND WORKED ON THE PASSAGE OF THE

59:28GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE ORDINANCE.

59:33IN THAT TIME I OBVIOUSLY HAD THE

59:34OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH DOZENS

59:36OF DEPARTMENT HEADS,

59:40COUNCILMEMBERS, MAYORS, AND

59:41PRESIDENT PAYNE MENTIONED ABOUT

59:42THE 14 BOSSES WAS NOT ONLY AN

59:45EFFECTIVE SLOGAN DURING THE

59:47AMENDMENT PROCESS IN 2021, BUT

59:52IT WAS ALSO A TRUE STATEMENT.

59:56IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR EMPLOYEES

59:58AS WELL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS

59:58THAT I TALKED TO TO FIGURE OUT

1:00:01WHO WAS IN CHARGE, IT WASN'T

1:00:04TRANSPARENT, AND THERE WAS

1:00:07LITTLE ACCOUNTABILITY WITH THE

1:00:08STRUCTURE THAT EXISTED PRIOR TO

1:00:11THE EXECUTIVE MAYOR SYSTEM. AND

1:00:16THAT HISTORY IS REFCTED IN THE

1:00:18CITY HISTORY THROUGHOUT TIME AS

1:00:19IT'S TRIED TO MOVEO MORE A

1:00:22STRONG EXECUTIVE POSITION. SO

1:00:23YOU GO BACK TO THE 1970s, WITH

1:00:26THE CREATION OF THE CITY

1:00:28COORDINATOR POSITION. TRYING TO

1:00:30HAVE A PERSON IN CHARGE. ALSO

1:00:32THE CREATION OF THE EXECUTIVE

1:00:35COMMITTEE WHERE IN THE 1980s

1:00:36WHERE AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO

1:00:38FOCUS IN THE CITY NOT ON THE 14

1:00:40BOSSES BUT WHERE IS THE

1:00:42LEADSHIP IN THE EXECUTIVE

1:00:44STANCE IN THE CITY.

1:00:45AND THEN THAT LED TO THE

1:00:48AMENDMENT IN 2021 WITH THE

1:00:52EXECUTIVE MAYOR. WHEN I CAME

1:00:56BACK IN '22, TO WORK ON THIS,

1:00:57ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WORKED

1:01:00ON -- BOY, MY TIME IS FAST. IF

1:01:03I CAN JUST FINH UP QUICKLY ON

1:01:06THIS, THE IDEA BEHIND THIS I

1:01:07THK IS --

1:01:08>> POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS

1:01:11>> POINT OF ORDER.

1:01:12>> SIR, WILL GIVE YOU -- IF

1:01:13YOU WILL JUST TAKE A SENTENCE TO

1:01:16WRAP UP YOUR THOUGHT, PLEASE.

1:01:17>>> THE SENTENCE IS THE

1:01:18STRUCTURE PROVIDES FOR

1:01:20TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY,

1:01:22AND A CHAIN OF COMMAND.

1:01:24>> THANK YOU.

1:01:24>> YOU MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HAPPY.

1:01:27>> POINT OF ORDER.

1:01:28>> MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HAPPY WITH

1:01:29THE CURRENT --

1:01:29>> POINT OF ORDER.

1:01:31>> YES, COUNCILMEMBER, HOLD ON

1:01:32JUST ONE SECOND. THANK Y,

1:01:33SIR.

1:01:34>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

1:01:38>> COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ, WAS

1:01:38YOUR POINT OF ORDER ABOUT --

1:01:41>> YES.

1:01:41>> -- THE TIME. I APOLOGIZE,

1:01:42SIR. I REALLY DO. NEXT I'LL

1:01:47WELCOME JUSTIN TERRELL.

1:01:51WELCOME, SIR.

1:01:52>> YEAH, GOOD AFTERNOON,

1:01:53COUNCILMEMBERS. THANK Y SOMUCHS

1:01:57IMPORTANT ISSUE. MY NAME IS

1:01:58JUSTIN TERRELL. I'M THE

1:01:59EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE

1:02:01MINNESOTA JUSTICE RESEARCH

1:02:03CEER. AND I'M SPEAKING TODAY

1:02:06TO ENCOURAGE A COMMITMENT TO THE

1:02:09STRATEGY OF UNIFIED LEADERSHIP

1:02:10AND COLLABORATION MINNEAPOLIS

1:02:13PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE.

1:02:15CURRENTLY THE STRATEGY IS HAS

1:02:16MOVED THROUGH THE OFFICE OF

1:02:18COMMUNITY SAFETY AND THE ROLE OF

1:02:19COMMUNITY, OF THE COMMUNITY

1:02:20SAFETY COMMISSIONER. WHILE I

1:02:23RECOGNIZE THAT THIS OFFICE HAS

1:02:24NOT BEEN FUL ABLE TO DELIVER

1:02:25ON ITS STATED GOAL OF UNIFYING

1:02:28ALL PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES,

1:02:30TRANSFORMING PUBLIC SAFETY

1:02:31REQUIRES MOVING BEYOND A

1:02:33REACTIVE SINGLE DEPARTMENT

1:02:35MINDSET. CONSOLIDATING 911,

1:02:37FIRE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT,

1:02:39NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY, AND POLICE

1:02:41UNDER UFIED LEADERSHIP IS

1:02:42SIMPLY A GOOD IDEA AND A STEP

1:02:44TOWARD PROVIDING EFFECTIVE,

1:02:46HUMANE, AND TRUSTWORTHY

1:02:49SERVICES. CITIES ACROSS THE

1:02:51NATION DEMONSTRATE THAT CABINET

1:02:53LEVEL SAFETY LEADERSHIP CREATES

1:02:55REAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND BETTER

1:02:58OUTCOMES. LOOK AT NEWARK, NEW

1:03:00JERSEY, INTEGRATED FIRE, POLICE,

1:03:01AND COMMUNITY BASED VIOLENCE,

1:03:03INTERVENTION UNDER A UNIFIED

1:03:04PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR IN 2016

1:03:07AND EXPANDED THATEFT IN 2020

1:03:10DEDICATING 5% OF THE POLICE

1:03:11BUDGET TO APPROPRIATE RESPONSE

1:03:13MODELS. THAT STRUCTURE

1:03:15STREAMLINE COORDINATION,

1:03:16LOWERED VIOLENT CRIME, AND IS

1:03:17RECOGNIZED AS A MODEL. I'M JUST

1:03:22GOING TO SKIP TO THE END HERE.

1:03:23SO STRUCTURAL ALIGNMENT IS ONLY

1:03:26HALF OF THE EQUATION.

1:03:27LEADERSHIP IS THE BRIDGE TO

1:03:30TRUST. A CABINET LEVEL

1:03:31COMMISSIONER PROVIDES A SINGLE

1:03:32POINT OF OPERATIONAL

1:03:34ACCOUNTABILITY, DIRECTLY ANSWER

1:03:35BOTH TO THE CITY LEADERSHIP AND

1:03:38THE PUBLIC. TRUST ISN'T BUILT

1:03:40THROUGH PUBLIC -- THROUGH POLICY

1:03:41ON PAPER. IT'S BUILT THROUGH

1:03:43CONSISTENCY, RADICAL

1:03:44TRANSPARENCY, SHARED AUTHORITY,

1:03:46ALL THINGS WE HAVE BEEN MISSING

1:03:48IN THE MINNEAPIS EXPERIMENT.

1:03:50HAVING A DEDICATED LEADER WHOSE

1:03:52SOLE MANDATE IS COCREATING

1:03:54SAFETY WITH THE COMMUNITY --

1:03:56OKAY, I'LL FINISH THIS LIKE --

1:03:58>> I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER

1:03:59SENTENCE.

1:03:59>> ALL RIGHT. PIC MY SENTENCE

1:04:06VERY WELL.

1:04:07IF YOU DON'T MIND. THE

1:04:11RESTRUCTURING -- THIS

1:04:13RESTRUCTURING -- I'LL JUST SAY.

1:04:15Y'ALL NEE TO LOOK AT THIS.

1:04:16IT'S A HOT MESS.

1:04:20>> MM-HMM.

1:04:21>> AND THERE'S PLENTY OF WORK TO

1:04:22BE DONE.

1:04:23>> POINT OF ORDER.

1:04:24>> SO THANK YOU.

1:04:25>> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

1:04:26>> I JUST WANT TO GET HOT MESS

1:04:28ON THE RECORD.

1:04:29>> YEP, YEP, YEP, HEARD, HEARD.

1:04:33THAT COMPLETES OUR LIST OF

1:04:35REGISTERED SPEAKERS. IS THERE

1:04:39ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK?

1:04:43ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO OFFER

1:04:45TESTIMONY TODAY? SEEING NO ONE

1:04:51ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK, I WILL

1:04:53NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

1:04:55ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR

1:04:58DISCUSSION FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?

1:05:01I WILL FIRST RECOGNIZE VICE

1:05:03PRESIDENT OSMAN FOLLOWED BY

1:05:06COUNCILMEMBER WARREN.

1:05:06>> THANKOU, MADAM CHAIR AND

1:05:10THANK YOU AUTHORS. I'M A

1:05:13COAUTHOR OF THIS GOVERENT

1:05:16STRUCTURE. AND I WAS HUGE

1:05:21OPPONENT TO PUSH THIS ACTUALLY

1:05:23TO MAKE SURE OCS IS -- LET ME

1:05:27JUST SAY THIS. THE COMMUNITY

1:05:30SAFETY WAS CREATED FOR

1:05:32TRANSPARCY, BUT IT HAS BEEN

1:05:33NOTHING BUT THAT. THE COMMUNITY

1:05:36SAFETY HAS BN COMPLETE FAILURE

1:05:38AND IT MUST BE ELIMITINATED.

1:05:42HERE'S THE REASON. NO ONE

1:05:43REALLY KNOWS WHAT THEY DO. WE

1:05:44HAVE DEPARTMEN LEADERS THAT DO

1:05:47THEIR WORK, AND THEY RUN THEIR

1:05:48DEPARTMENT VERY WELL. OCS

1:05:52LEADERSHIP COME IN FRONT OF THE

1:05:53COUNCIL BUT THEY ARE NOT ABLE

1:05:54EVEN TO ANSWER A BASIC KEY

1:05:57QUESTIONS WE HAVE ASKED. OCS

1:06:01OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY

1:06:05LEADERSHIP ADMITTED THAT THE

1:06:05POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER

1:06:08DEPARTMENTS COMPLETELY BYPASS

1:06:09THEM AND TAKE THEIR ORDERS TO

1:06:11THE MAYOR. SO WHAT DID THEY

1:06:14REALLY DO? IF NO ONE IS

1:06:16REPORTING TO THEM? IF THEY

1:06:20CAN'T BE -- THE REASON IT WAS

1:06:25CREATED WAS REAY TRANSPARENCY

1:06:26MIKE SURE THAT OUR POLICE

1:06:27OFFICER -- MAKE SURE THAT OUR

1:06:28POLICE OFFICERS AND MPD AND

1:06:34OTHER SAFETY DEPARTMENTS ARE

1:06:36ABLE TO COME UP WITH A BIGGER

1:06:39LEADERSHIP THAT CAN LEAD THEM

1:06:41ALL IN ONE SCOPE THAT HAS NOT

1:06:44HAPPENED. I HAVE SEEN THE

1:06:51COMMISSIONERS' OFFICE COME TO

1:06:51THE TABLE AND THEY CAN'T EVEN

1:06:52ANSWER. THEY DON'T KNO WHAT

1:06:54WE'RE ASKING, WHAT WE'RE TALKING

1:06:55ABOUT. IT'S ON THE RECORD. YOU

1:06:58CAN LOOK AT THAT. OCS

1:07:03MISMANAGED VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS

1:07:04AND YOU HAVE HEARD THE CONTRACT

1:07:07SCANDALS ON THE NEWS. THAT WAS

1:07:09UNDER THE COMMISSIONER'S

1:07:15LEADERSHIP. THIS IS ONE OF THE

1:07:16HIGHEST PAID, IT IS THE HIGHEST

1:07:17PAID POSITION IN THEITY HAS

1:07:20CREATED FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY

1:07:22BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT OUR PUBLIC

1:07:24SAFETY. I DON'T THINK THIS

1:07:27DEPARTMENT SERVICE ANY VALUE TO

1:07:28THE RESIDENTS OF MINNEAPOLIS AT

1:07:30THIS MOMENT. OC -- OCS HAS NOT

1:07:41EVEN REALIZED THE POLICE

1:07:42DEPARTMENT OVERSPENT AND

1:07:43MISMANAGED TAXPAYERS MONEY, OVER

1:07:45$20 MILLION UNTIL THE END OF

1:07:502025. THIS IS UNNECESSARY AND

1:07:53EXPENSIVE LAYER THAT SLOWS DOWN

1:07:57PROGRESS AND INCREASES COSTS.

1:08:00WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEVY

1:08:02INCREASE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

1:08:03CITY BEING IN TROUBLE

1:08:05FINANCIALLY. WE CAN SAVE

1:08:08$2.1 MILLION OF THIS OFFICE.

1:08:15AND FOR US AS LEADERS, WE'RE

1:08:21HERE TO OVERSIGHT. NO ONE IS

1:08:23ABOVE THE LAW. WE WANT MIKE

1:08:27SURE WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY A

1:08:36WAY THAT SAVES MONEY THAT KEEPS

1:08:38OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. ET ME JUST

1:08:40REMIND THIS. WE HAVE MPD

1:08:43LEADERSHIP THAT CAME FRONT OF

1:08:44THE CNCIL THAT HAS SAID THEY

1:08:45HAVE MISMANAGED, THAT HAVE BEEN

1:08:47UNDER THE COMMISSIONER'S WATCH.

1:08:49AND THE MAYOR'S WATCH. WE'RE

1:08:54ELECTED AS OVERSIGHT, AND I

1:08:55BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST WAY FOR

1:08:56US TO MOVE FORWARD IS TO

1:08:59ELIMINATE THI DEPARTMENT. WE

1:09:04HAVE MPD LEADERSHIP, WE HAVE THE

1:09:06FIRE LEADERSHIP, WE HAVE OTHER

1:09:07DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP THAT COME

1:09:09IN FRO OF US THAT DO THEIR

1:09:11WORK PHENOMENALLY AND DO IT

1:09:13WELL. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHATTH.

1:09:20AND I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

1:09:26>> THANK YOU. NEXT I'LL

1:09:27RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER WARREN

1:09:28FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER

1:09:32PALMISANO.

1:09:32>>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I JUSTD S

1:09:37WHO TESTIFIED, THEY CAN HAND IN

1:09:38THEIR STATEMENTS TO THE CRKS

1:09:40AND WE CAN READ THAT?

1:09:41>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.

1:09:43>> THEY WERE PRETTY LENGTHY AND

1:09:45I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT ELSE

1:09:46WAS -- OKAY, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE

1:09:47THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.

1:09:48>> YES. CAN I INTERRUPT Y

1:09:52YOUR TIME TO DO THAT?

1:09:55>> YES, YOU MAY.

1:09:56>> FOR OUR SPEAKERS WHO DID NOT

1:09:57GET A CHANCE TO COMPLETE THEIR

1:09:58TESTIMONY, IF YOU WOULDN'T

1:09:59PLEASE MIND BRINGING YOUR

1:10:02WRITTEN COMMENTS OVER TO THE

1:10:04CLERKS. THEY WILL INCLUDE THOSE

1:10:05IN THE PUBLIC RECORD OF THIS

1:10:09ORDINANCE AWELL AS DISTRIBUTE

1:10:10THOSE AMONG COUNCILMEMBERS.

1:10:11THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER

1:10:12WARREN.

1:10:12>> YOU ARE AWEME. THAT'S ALL

1:10:14I WANTED. I DIDN'T HAVE

1:10:15ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.

1:10:17>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. NEXT

1:10:19I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER

1:10:22PALMISANO.

1:10:27>>> WHAT'S BEST FOR MINNEAPOLIS?

1:10:29I SEE PRESENTATIONS. I SEE LRO

1:10:33PRESENTATIONS TALKING ABOUT HOW

1:10:33THIS GETS SET UP IN OTHER

1:10:35CITIES. I'VE READ THAT NEW YORK

1:10:37CITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF

1:10:38CREATING EXACTLY THEAME SYSTEM

1:10:40THAT WE HAVE TODAY. BUT WHAT'S

1:10:43BEST FOR US? I THINK THE

1:10:46IMPACTS THAT THIS HAVE ON THE

1:10:49SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, SAFE AND

1:10:51THRIVING COMMUNITIES

1:10:53INITIATIVES, CRITICAL INCIDENTS,

1:10:56POLICE OVERSIGHT, AND ESPECIALLY

1:10:59CREATING ALTERNATIVE SAFETY

1:10:59MODELS TT WORK, I THINK THE

1:11:03IMPACTS IT HAS ON THOSE THINGS

1:11:04ARE SIGNIFICANT. AND I SEE ALL

1:11:07THESE AMBITIOUS THINGS WE HAVE

1:11:09GOING, AND WE MIGHT BE A HOT

1:11:11MESS SOMETIMES BUT IN ABSENCE

1:11:16OF AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT

1:11:17COORDINATES ALL THESE PUBLIC

1:11:18SAFETY FUNCTIONS, I FORESEE AN

1:11:23EVENTUAL ROUTING BACK TO A BASIC

1:11:25POLICE RESPONSE IN OUR CITY.

1:11:26ONE THAT WE SAID THAT WE WANTED

1:11:28TO CHANGE. ONE THAT WE SAID WE

1:11:29WANTED TO CREATE AN ECOSYSTEM OF

1:11:32PUBLIC SAFETY AND GET THE RIGHT

1:11:34RESPONSE AT THE RIGHT TIME. BUT

1:11:37I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND I WAS

1:11:39HERE IN 2020, AND I WAS HERE

1:11:44WHEN VIOLENCE PREVENTION WAS

1:11:44PART OF OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT,

1:11:47AND11 REPORTED INTO A CITY

1:11:51COORDINATOR, AND THIS WERE

1:11:52GOING EVERY WHICH WAY, I'D LIKE

1:11:54TO UNDERSTAND HOW SOME OF THE

1:11:56SMALLER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE

1:11:57OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY, LIKE

1:12:001, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT,

1:12:03NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY, VIEW THE

1:12:06OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY TO

1:12:07SUPPORT THEIR WORK. AND WHAT

1:12:08THEY THINK THEY WOULD LOSE

1:12:09WITHOUT IT. ANDIOMYTH WELL HAVE

1:12:13TO GET -- AND I MIGHT WELL HAVE

1:12:14TO GET BACK INTO QUEUE AS I WILL

1:12:17RUN OUT OF TIME BUT I WOULD LIKE

1:12:17TO ASK ANY OF THOSE DIRECTORS

1:12:18WILLING TO COME UP AND SHARE A

1:12:20FEW WORDS HOW OCS SUPPORTS THEIR

1:12:22WORK AND SUPPORTS THEIR

1:12:24DEPARTMENT. IF YOU WOULD BE

1:12:27WILLING TO, DIRECTOR HODNE OR

1:12:32DIRECTOR SAYER.

1:12:37>> I'LL SAY AS SHE COMES UP. I

1:12:38CAN GET BEHIND THE IDEA THAT OUR

1:12:43EXISTINGDEA OF OFFICE OF

1:12:44COMMUNITY SAFETY SHOULD CHANGE,

1:12:46ABSOLUTELY, BUT I DON'T AGREE I

1:12:48SHOULD GO AWAY COMPLETELY.

1:12:50>> DIRECTOR HODNE, IF YOU WOULD

1:12:51TRODUCE YOURSELF.

1:12:52>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI,

1:12:55I'M JONI HODNE, DIRECTOR OF

1:12:57MINNEAPOLIS 911. I HAVE BEEN

1:12:58LEADING THIS DEPARTMENT FOR

1:12:59ALMOST FIVE YEARS N, SO I WAS

1:13:02PART OF THE 911 DEPARTMENT

1:13:04BEFORE W MERGED INTO THE OFFICE

1:13:06OF COMMUNITY SAFETY. IT'S

1:13:09ACCURATE INFORMATION THAT WE

1:13:13REPORTED THE 911 DEPARTMENT

1:13:15REPORTED SEPARATEL ORPARTNERS

1:13:18IN OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY

1:13:20THAT WE CURRENTLY ARE WORKING

1:13:21WITH RIGHT NOW. AND WHILE WE,

1:13:24WE WORKED AT OPERATED RATHER

1:13:26PARALLEL WITH THE POLICE

1:13:28DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE

1:13:29DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE WE HAD TO

1:13:29WORK TOGETHER EVERY DAY, WE

1:13:32DIDN'T WORK WITH THE TYPE OF

1:13:35COORDINATION AND ABILITY TO BE

1:13:36ABLE TO GET TOGETHER AND NOT

1:13:38ONLY HANDLE MAJOR EVENTS THAT

1:13:41JUST POP UP BUT ALSO TO BE ABLE

1:13:43TO HANDLE PLANNED EVENTS, THINK

1:13:45OF OUR SUMMER SAFET PLANNING.

1:13:48ALL OF THAT IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE

1:13:51THESE VE DEPARTMENTS GET

1:13:53TOGETHER UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF

1:13:55THE COMMISSIONER TO SIT DOWN AT

1:13:57ONE TABLE AND DISCUSS WHAT CAN

1:13:59AND CAN'T FUNCTION. I MAY BE AN

1:14:02EXPERT IN MY DEPARTMENT, BUT

1:14:04WITHOUT THE INPUT FROM THE OTH

1:14:09DERTMENTS I'M WORKING WITH,

1:14:09NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT,

1:14:10I MAY FORGET PIECES OR IMPAC

1:14:13THAT CAN BE DONE BY BRINGING

1:14:17THOSE DEPARTMENTS INTO AND

1:14:18HELPING US EXPAND WHAT WE'RE

1:14:19DOING IN 911 TO PROVIDE SOME

1:14:21ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES. WITH

1:14:24THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO --

1:14:29>> AMANDA HARRINGTON, DIRECTOR

1:14:32OF NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY. I WOULD

1:14:35Y OCS HAS BEEN CRITICAL IN MY

1:14:36ROLE, BOTH AS DIRECTOR OF

1:14:38COMMUNITY SAFETY DESIGN AND

1:14:40IMPLEMENTATION, AND NEIGHBORHOOD

1:14:41SAFETY. THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

1:14:43SAFETY, THE COMMISSIONER AND ALL

1:14:45OF THE STAFF IN THE OFFICE OF

1:14:47COMMUNITY SAFETY HAVE HELPED ME

1:14:48GET THINGS MOVED ALONG. WITHOUT

1:14:50THEIR ADVOCACY, WITHOUT THEIR

1:14:53TALKING TO COLLEAGUES HIGHER UP

1:14:55AT THE CABINET LEVEL, A LOT OF

1:14:56THE THINGS THAT I WAS ABLE TO

1:14:57GET DONE THROUGH THE SAFE AND

1:14:58THRIVING COMMUNITIES REPORT AND

1:15:00IN MY OWN DEPARTMENT WOULDN'T

1:15:01HAVE HAPPENED. BECAUSE I NEEDED

1:15:02THAT LEVEL OF CHAMPION TO MOVE

1:15:04THIS WORK ALONG. I DEFINITELY

1:15:09FEEL THAT SUPPORT FROM CITY

1:15:10COUNCIL. I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE

1:15:11THAT SUPPORT FROM THE

1:15:13ADMINISTRATION OUTSIDE OF THE

1:15:14OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY, AND

1:15:14SO THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL.NITION

1:15:15THERE H -IN ADDITION THERE

1:15:18HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE I WAS

1:15:19WORKED REALLY WELL WITH

1:15:19INDIVIDUALS IN THE POLICE

1:15:20DEPARTMENT AS AN EXAMPLE. BUT

1:15:21AS BODY, WITHOUT THE

1:15:22COMMISSIONER LITERALLY TELLING

1:15:23THEM THAT THEY HAD TO WORK WITH

1:15:26ME, WE COULDN'T GET SOMETHING

1:15:28STARTED. AND THAT MAY CNGE

1:15:30NOW UNDER NEW LEADERSHIP, BUT

1:15:31THAT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THE

1:15:33PAST COUPLE OF YEARS A THAT

1:15:35WOULD HAVE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT

1:15:36ROAD BLOCK TO GETTING THINGS

1:15:37LIKE THE SOTING REVIEW UP AND

1:15:39RUNNING JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.

1:15:47>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI,

1:15:50COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO, RACHEL

1:15:51SAYER, THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY

1:15:52MANAGEMENT. FROM M STANDPOINT,

1:15:53I WOULD JUST POINT THE COUNCIL

1:15:56TO THE 2020 AFTER-ACTION REVIEW

1:15:57THAT POINTED TO VERY CLEAR

1:16:01WEAKNESSES IN THE PREVIOUS

1:16:02STRUCTURE. ONE OF THE THOUGH

1:16:03CLEAR WEAESSES THAT WAS

1:16:05MENTIONED IS A LACK OF

1:16:08COORDINATION. THAT IS BEFORE,

1:16:09NOW YOU HAVE SEEN HOW WE RESPOND

1:16:11AS A WHOLE PUBLIC SAFETY

1:16:14ECOSYSTEM IN SEVERAL LARGE SCALE

1:16:16DISASTERS, AND FORE, THAT IS

1:16:17THE MOST CLEAR EXAMPLE I CAN

1:16:19POINT TO YOU OF BEFORE WHEN THIS

1:16:22PREVIOUS STRUCTURE EXISTED AND

1:16:26NOW. THANK YOU.

1:16:26>> MADAM CHAIR, I THINK WE NEED

1:16:29THE FUNCTION OF AN OFFICE OF

1:16:30COMMUNITY SAFETY. I DON'T CARE

1:16:32WHAT IT'S CALLED OR IF WE REDUC

1:16:33THE SIZE OF IT. BUT WE NEED A

1:16:36SMALL TEAM THAT GUIDES THE WORKO

1:16:39THAT THEY CAN BE STRONGER

1:16:43TOGETHER. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE

1:16:45A COMMISSIONER. MAYBE IT NEEDS

1:16:47TO BE SOMEONE LIKE A DEPUTY

1:16:49MAYOR WHO CAN HANDLE A

1:16:52COMPLICATED INFRASTRUCTURE

1:16:54PROJECT. BUT WE NEED A SINGLE

1:16:56COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC SAFETY

1:16:58RESPONSE THAT CONTINUES TO

1:16:59EVOLVE HERE.

1:17:03>> THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL

1:17:05RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER WHITING

1:17:07FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT

1:17:09YNE.

1:17:09>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

1:17:11AND I WILL TRY T PUT THIS AS

1:17:15BLANKLY AS POSSIBLE. THIS

1:17:20MOTION IN FRONTF US, IN MY

1:17:21OPINION, I THINK IS ONE OF THE

1:17:23MOST RECKLESS ITEMS THAT HAS

1:17:25COME ACROSS MY DESK. WE HAVE

1:17:31SEEN --

1:17:32>> POINT OF ORDER. IN TMS OF

1:17:35RECKLESSNESS.

1:17:37>> ABSOLUTELY.

1:17:38>> STATEMENT ABOUT A POLICY.

1:17:43>> CHAIR, YEP, COUNCILMEMBER

1:17:44WONSLEY, PLEASE STATE YOUR POINT

1:17:48OF ORDER.

1:17:49>> YOU KNOW WHAT? ACTUALL I

1:17:50WILL JUST GET BACK IN QUEUE AND

1:17:55LET COUNCILMEMBER WHITING

1:17:56PROCEED.

1:17:56>> THANK YOU. AND I WILL, I

1:17:58WILL RESTATE EXACTLY WHAT I

1:17:59SAID. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF

1:18:01THE MOST RECKLESS PIECES OF WORK

1:18:03TO COME ACROSS THIS BODY. W

1:18:07HAVE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN,

1:18:09RIGHT, DON'T TAKE, DON'T TAKE MY

1:18:11WORD. PLEASE DO NOT TAK MY

1:18:12WORD FOR IT. YOU DON'T NEED TO

1:18:13TAKE MY WORD. WE HAVE SEE

1:18:18LETTERS IN THIS COMMENT COME

1:18:19FROM THE MINNESOTA JUSTICE

1:18:23INITIATIVE. WE HAVE THE,ORRY

1:18:25THE SOME OF THE DRAFTERS OFHE

1:18:26SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITY

1:18:28REPORT,NE OF THE LARGEST

1:18:30ACTUALLY NO THE LARGEST PIECE OF

1:18:33MPREHENSIVE WORK ON LAW

1:18:36ENFORCEMENT ALTERNATIVES IN THE

1:18:37CITY SAY PLEASE DON'T DO THIS.

1:18:40WE HAVE HAD THE POLICING PROJECT

1:18:44AT NYU AGAIN THE DRAFTERS OF OUR

1:18:47PUBLIC SAFETY ECOSYSTEM GAPS AND

1:18:49ANALYSIS REPORTAY PLEASE DO

1:18:51NOT DO THIS. WE HAVE HAD IN

1:18:53CONVERSATIONS WITH ELEFAHAT I

1:18:54HAVE HAD, THEY SAY PLEASE DO NOT

1:18:58DOHIS. WE ARE REMOVING THE

1:19:01ONE PIECE OF WOR THE ONE BODY

1:19:04THAT SPECIFIC FOCUS IS TO MOVE

1:19:07THE PUBLIC SAFETY ECOSYSTEM

1:19:10OUTSIDE OF JUST TRADITIOL LAW

1:19:12ENFORCEMENT. WHAT WE HAVE

1:19:14WITHOUT AN OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

1:19:16SAFETY WHOSE EXPLICIT JOB IS TO

1:19:18PROTECT AND INTEGRATE NONPOLICE

1:19:23ALTERNATIVES ALONGSIDE

1:19:23TRADITIONALOLICING WILL

1:19:25INEVITABLY BECOME THE DOMINANT

1:19:27FORCE, THE POLICE CHIEF. THAS

1:19:28WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT IS

1:19:31WHAT HAS EXISTED. THAT IS WHAT

1:19:33WE HAVE SEEN. SO TO PUT THAT

1:19:34ANOTHER WAY, IF OUR GOAL IS TO

1:19:38INCREASE MPD'S INFLUENCE OVER

1:19:40MINNEAPOLIS, MINNEAPOLIS'UBLIC

1:19:42SAFETY STRATEGY, THE BEST WAY TO

1:19:43DO THAT IS TO ELIMINATE THE ONLY

1:19:46OFFICE WHOSE JOB IT IS IS TO

1:19:48ADVOCATE LIKE WE JUST HEARD FROM

1:19:51R DIRECTOR, THOSE PIECES,

1:19:52THESE SMALL OFFICES TO MOVE

1:19:54FORWARD. RIGHT? I HEAR MY

1:19:57COLLEAGUESS' FRUSTRATION WITH

1:20:00THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE

1:20:02INFANCY OF THIS DEPARTMENT.

1:20:03VERY FAIR. I THINK THAT IS FAIR

1:20:07CRITIQUES OWN THUS BODY. RIGHT?

1:20:08THIS IS A DEPARTMENT CREATED IN

1:20:142022 THAT HAD A COMMISSIONER

1:20:15THAT H BEEN THERE FOR A YEAR

1:20:16AND NOW WE'VE HAD A COMMISSIONER

1:20:18OVER THE LAST A 2 1/2, 3

1:20:22YEARS. RIGHT, THIS IS A BRAND

1:20:23NEW DEPARTMENT, AND IT IS

1:20:24WORKING THROUGH THOSE

1:20:25STRATEGIES, AND SO INSTEAD OF

1:20:27ELIMINATING IT, THINK ABSOLUTELY

1:20:29LET'S, LET'S ATTACH MORE

1:20:30AUTHORITY TO IT. LET'STTACH

1:20:33MORE OVERSIGHT MANAGEMENT TO

1:20:35THIS, TO THIS DEPARTMENT. AND

1:20:41IT'S JUST THIS RIGHT, AND AGAIN

1:20:46WE'VE HAD THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

1:20:48FROM THE STATEF MINNESOTA SAY,

1:20:51PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS. WE ARE,

1:20:54WE ARE THE PEOPLE LISTENING TO

1:20:56THE EXPERTS. I THINK WE'RE

1:20:57SUPPOSED TO BE THE PEOPLE

1:20:58LISTENING TO THE EXPERTS. I

1:21:00DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHAT GOES ON

1:21:02DAY TO DAY WORK WITH THE OFFICE

1:21:04OF COMMUNITY SAFETY. I'M GOING

1:21:06TO LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS THAT

1:21:07SAY HEY, WHAT IS GOING -- WHAT

1:21:10IS PRESENTED INRONT OF US IS

1:21:13GOING TO PUSH OUR REFORM EFFORTS

1:21:15BACK, IT'S GOING TO PUSH OUR

1:21:17POLICING ALTERNATIVES BACK

1:21:21YEARS. RIGHT? AND THAT'S NOT

1:21:22EVEN ON TOPF -- WE ARE IN

1:21:25CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW TO BRING

1:21:27ONE OF OUR LARGEST CRISIS

1:21:30RESPONSE BODIES IN HOUSE. TO

1:21:34THE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD

1:21:35OVERSEE THAT. AND WE'RE TALKING

1:21:37ABOUT ELIMINATING IT? I JUST --

1:21:42AND IT IS, IT IS THIS WILD

1:21:44VERSION I'M LIKE AM I LIVING IN

1:21:45SOME VERSION OF A TWILIGHT ZONE?

1:21:48THAT WE ARE REMOVING THE BODY

1:21:51THAT DOES THE WORK OF

1:21:52ALTERNATIVES THAT THIS BODY HAS

1:21:54BEEN FANTASTIC WITH, LIKE

1:21:55COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY POINTED. S

1:22:02FOR RK OUTSIDE OF TRADITIONAL

1:22:03LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND NOW WE'RE

1:22:04GOING TO REMOVE THE PIECE THAT

1:22:07PUSHES THAT FORWARD? I JUST, I

1:22:10JUST AMAVING A REALLY, REALLY

1:22:12HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING IT. A

1:22:15REALLY HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING

1:22:17IT. AND RIGHT, I THINK THERE IS

1:22:19AN ABILITY TO SAVE MONEY. I

1:22:21THINK THERE'S AN, THERE'S

1:22:22VERSIONS OF THIS THING THAT

1:22:26COULD EXIST. THIS IS NOT THE

1:22:27THING THAT -- RIGHT, I DON'T

1:22:28WANT TO SAVE MONEY ON THIS.

1:22:29THIS IS NOT THE THING THAT I

1:22:30WANT TO SAVE MONEY ON. IF WE

1:22:31ARE TRYING TO MOVE OUR CITY AWAY

1:22:36FROM TRADITIONAL RELIANCE ON

1:22:38POLICE. IF WE WANT TO JUST RELY

1:22:41ON POLICE, LET US KNOW WE CAN DO

1:22:43THAT. SURE. LET'S JUST GO BACK

1:22:46TO HOW IT WAS BEFORE THIS. IF

1:22:49WE WANT TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD

1:22:52IN THE FUNDANTALLY DIFFERENT

1:22:55WAY, THEN WE HAVE TO DO THINGS

1:22:56THAT ARE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT

1:22:57THAN WHAWE HAVE SEEN

1:22:58PREVIOUSLY. WE HAVE TO MOVE

1:23:00TOWARDS WHAT THE EXPERTS ARE

1:23:04SAYING IN THIS FIELD. RIGHT?

1:23:05WE HAVE NEWARK, WE HAVE NEW YORK

1:23:10CITY, WE HAVE OTHER CITIES THAT

1:23:12ARE MODELING WHAT WE ARE TRYING

1:23:13TO SEE RIGHT HERE. AND I AM ADD

1:23:18A LOSS FOR WORDS. IT JUST MAKES

1:23:21ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE IN MY MIND.

1:23:23BU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:23:28>> THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL

1:23:31RECOGNIZE COUIL PRESIDENT

1:23:32PAYNE FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER

1:23:35VETAW.

1:23:35>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS

1:23:38PATHWAY IS ONLY RECKLESS IF YOU

1:23:39JUST DON'T HE FAITH IN THE

1:23:41MAYOR. RIGHT? SO I MEAN, MAYBE

1:23:44PEOPLE ARE REVEALING SOMETHING

1:23:46ABOUT THEIR POSITION ON THE

1:23:48MAYOR, BUT NOTHING PREVENTS THE

1:23:52DEPARTMENTS FM APPEALING

1:23:54DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR TO REMOVE

1:23:55BARRIERS FOR THE TO ADVANCE

1:23:59INITIATIVES. NOTHING ABOUT THIS

1:24:02PROPOSAL PREVENTS THE MAYOR FROM

1:24:06REMAINING COMMITTED TO

1:24:07COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC SAFETY.

1:24:09NOTHING ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL

1:24:11MAKES THE POLICE CHIEF MORE

1:24:12POWERFUL THAN THE MAYOR. THAT,

1:24:15THE COMMITMENT TO COMPREHENSIVE

1:24:17SAFETY NEEDS TO BE ACROSS EVERY

1:24:20LEADER IN THIS INSTITUTION. I

1:24:22KNOW THAT THIS BODY HAS THAT

1:24:24COMMITMENT. I BELIEVE THE MAYOR

1:24:25HAS THAT COMMITMT. IF PEOPLE

1:24:27ARE WAIVERRING ON THAT BELIEF IN

1:24:29THE MAYOR, MAYBE THAT'S A

1:24:34DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

1:24:34I DON'T WANT TO ASCRIBE ANY

1:24:36MOTIVE ON THAT FRONT, BUT THIS

1:24:39PROPOSAL DOES NOT RETREAT FROM

1:24:40OUR COMMITMENT TO EXPANDING

1:24:42PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, TO

1:24:44BRINGING BCR IN HOUSE, TO MAKING

1:24:46SURE THAT OUR SAFETY DEPARTMENTS

1:24:49ARE NOT SILOED, AND IT IS

1:24:51ACTUALLY A FALSE DICHOTOMY TO

1:24:52SAYHAT THIS IS GOING BACK TO

1:24:55THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE BECAUSE

1:24:56THE WAY THAT IT WAS BEFORES

1:24:59THAT 911 REPORTED TO THE

1:25:01COORDINATOR,HE OFFICE OF

1:25:03VIOLENCE PRESENTED REPORTED TO

1:25:05THE HEALTH COMMISSIONER, THE

1:25:06COORDINATOR AND THE HEALTH

1:25:08COMMISSIONER REPORTED TO THE

1:25:11EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. AND THERE

1:25:12WAS THIS KIND OF HIERARCHY OF

1:25:15CHARTER DEPARTMENT AND

1:25:18NONCHARTER DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY

1:25:19MANAGEMENT'S NOT A CHARTER

1:25:21DEPARTMENT. 911'S NOT A CHARTER

1:25:22PARTMENT. THEY BOTH REPORTED

1:25:23TO THE COORDINATOR. WE'RE IN A

1:25:25DIFFERENT WORLD. WE HAVE AN

1:25:27EXECUTIVE MAYOR. EVERYONE

1:25:28REPORTS TO THE MAYOR. AND THEIR

1:25:31ILITY TO DO THEIR WORK IS

1:25:34SUPPORTED BY THE MAYOR WHO IS

1:25:35ELECTED BY THE PUBLIC. SO EACH

1:25:37ONE OF THESE DEPARTMENT LEADERS

1:25:39IS ACCOUNTAB TO THE PUBLIC BY

1:25:41WAY OF THE MAYOR. SO ANY

1:25:43RETREAT FROM OUR COMMITMENT TO A

1:25:46COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO PUBLIC

1:25:47SAFETY YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT UP

1:25:48WI THE MAYOR. ANY INABILITY

1:25:51FOR DEPARTMENT LEADERS TO

1:25:53DELIVER ON THEIR GOALS THEY

1:25:55SHOULD TAKE THAT UP WITH THE

1:25:57MAYOR. THEY SHOULD APPEAL

1:25:58DIRECTLY TO THE EXECUTIVE THAT

1:25:59IS IN CHARGE. AT'S WHAT THIS

1:26:02PROPOSAL DOES, AND IT RECOGNIZES

1:26:03THE CHARTER AND I'M GLAD THAT

1:26:05THE CHAIR OF THE CHARTER

1:26:06COMMISSION IS HERE TO HAVE THIS

1:26:08CONVERSATION BECAUSE IF PEOPLE

1:26:10BELIEVE THAT THIS FUNCTIONALITY

1:26:11SHOULD EXIST FOR THE BETTERMENT

1:26:13OF OUR COMMUNITY, THEY SHOULD BE

1:26:15ADVOCATING FOR A CHARTER

1:26:17AMENDMENT. THIS ORDINANCE IS

1:26:19ALIGNING US WITH THE CHARTER.

1:26:20ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SEE

1:26:23THIS POSITION EXIST, SHOULD BE

1:26:25ARGUING FOR A CHARTER AMENDMENT.

1:26:26AND MAYBELL 13 OF US WOULD

1:26:27AGREE ON A CHARTER AMENDMENT AND

1:26:29WE COULD GET THE MAYOR ON BOARD

1:26:30AND WE COULD DO THAT P POST

1:26:35HASTE. I'M OPEN TO THAT

1:26:39CONVERSATION TOO

1:26:39>> THANK YOU. NEXT I'LL

1:26:41RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER

1:26:42RAINVILLE FOLLOWED BY

1:26:43COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY.

1:26:46>> THANK YOU. AND I HAV TO

1:26:48ADMIT ONE OF THE TESTIFIERS,

1:26:50THIS IS A HOT MESS. BUT AT THE

1:26:52SAME TIME, WE'VE MADE GREAT

1:26:53STRIDES, AND THAT CAN'T BE

1:26:55OVERLOOKED AS WELL. AND CHANGES

1:26:59ARE NEEDED, BUT THIS ORDINANCE

1:27:00DOES NOT GIVE THE CHANGES THAT

1:27:02ARE NEEDED. THERE REALLY IS NO

1:27:03PLAN FOR TS. MY OBSERVATION

1:27:06OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO

1:27:08CONTRADICT WHAT THE VOTERS PUT,

1:27:11VOTED IN '21, WHICH IS THE

1:27:15STRONG MAYOR SYSTEM, ELECTING

1:27:18THE CUR -- CURRENT MAYOR

1:27:21AND ACTUALLY RE-ELECTINING

1:27:23THAT MAYOR AGAIN. TO SIT HERE

1:27:24AND BLAME THE MAYOR FOR ALL OF

1:27:25OUR PROBLEMS, TO BLAME THE MAYOR

1:27:28WE CAN'T DO CONSTITUENT SERVICE,

1:27:30I THINK IF YOU BELIEVE THAT WE

1:27:31NEED THE MAYOR TO SERVE OUR

1:27:33CONSTITUENTS YOU HAVE TO EXAMINE

1:27:34WHY YOU RUN FOR OICE, HOW YOU

1:27:35HOLD YOUR OFFICE. SO I WILL NOT

1:27:38BE VOTING FOR THIS. AND I THINK

1:27:40WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE VOTERS.

1:27:42THEY VOTED IN A STRONG MAYOR

1:27:46SYSTEM. THEY VOTED TO NOT

1:27:47DEFUND THE POLICE. THIS IS WHAT

1:27:49THE SYSTEM WE'VE COME UP WITH,

1:27:51LET'S USE WHAT WE HAVE, LET'S

1:27:53LISTEN TO OUR STAFF, I THINK THE

1:27:54STAFF WILL HAVE, WHO I'VE

1:27:58REACHED OUT TO, I APPRECIATE

1:27:59YOUR COMMENTS. I LISTEN TO YOU.

1:28:00I HEAR YOU. WE NEED TO FIX

1:28:02THIS, BUT THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO

1:28:04FIX THE IUES THAT WE HAVE.

1:28:10>> THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL

1:28:14RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER

1:28:16WONSLEY.

1:28:16>> THANK YOU. CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

1:28:21LORD JESUS I'M STRUGGLING. SO

1:28:23FIRST THING, I JUST WANT TO NAME

1:28:25IN TERMS OF THE LACK OF PLAN,

1:28:29ACCUSATION AROUND THIS

1:28:31ORDINANCE. AND IN TERMS OF THE

1:28:33NFLATED SENSE OF IMPORTANCE OF

1:28:35OCS BEING ABLE TO COORDINATE THE

1:28:39DEPARTMENTS THAT REPORT TO IT.

1:28:41I JUST SIMPLY DO NOT BELIEVE WE

1:28:43NEED A NEARLY $400,000 PAID, ONE

1:28:51OF THE MOST HIGHLY PAID

1:28:53GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES IN THE

1:28:54STATE OF MINNESOTA N IN ORDER

1:28:55TO DO SCHEDULE BOOKING BETWEEN

1:28:58SEVERAL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

1:28:59IN FACT WE ALSO KNOW THE MAYOR

1:29:00OFFICE HAS ITS OWN STAFFING

1:29:03CAPACITY ACTUALLY HAS AN AIDE

1:29:04THAT IS DEDICATED TO DO PUBLIC

1:29:08SAFETY ENGAGEMENT WHICH IF WE

1:29:10TRULY, I MEAN, THIS SHOULD BE

1:29:12FALLING UNDER THEIR

1:29:14RESPONSIBILITY NOW, COULD

1:29:15LITERALLY ABSORB THAT WORK AS

1:29:16OPPOSED TO PAYING $400,000,

1:29:18WHICH WE'VE SEEN TIME AND TIME

1:29:20AGAIN IS NOT ACTUALLY HAPPENINGT

1:29:23CONSISTENT, AND WE'VE HAD

1:29:24PARTNERS COME TO THIS BODY IN

1:29:26NAME THAT THE OFFICE OF

1:29:27COMMUNITY SAFETY THROUGHOUT ITS

1:29:28FOUR YEARS HAS NOT CONSISTENTLY

1:29:31MET WITH MULTIJ

1:29:34MULTIJURISDIIONAL PARTNERS WHO

1:29:35HAVE BEEN NEEDED IN ORDER TO

1:29:35ADVANCE OUR COMPREHENSIVE WORK.

1:29:37NOW, GOING BACK TO THE POINT

1:29:38ABOUT RECKLESSNESS OR THE

1:29:40RECKLESS INTENT OF THIS

1:29:42PROPOSAL, AND SPECIFICALLY THE

1:29:45CLAIM THAT BY ELIMINATING OCS

1:29:47WEE SOMEHOW UNDERMINING OUR

1:29:50COMMITMENT TO COMPREHENSIVE

1:29:51PUBLIC SETY AND CREATING SPACE

1:29:55FOR MPD TO HAVE A STRONGER ROLE

1:29:59AND INFLUENCE OVER OUR PUBLIC

1:30:00SAFETY, PLEASE POINT ME TO HOW

1:30:01THAT'S NOT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

1:30:03PLEASE TELL ME HOW -- PLEE

1:30:05POINT ME TO EXAMPLE WHERE OCS

1:30:07EXISTENCE HAS NOT JUST SIMPLY

1:30:10EMBOLDENED MPD THROUGHOUT ITS

1:30:11TIME OF OPERATION. AND WE HAVE

1:30:14A MULTITUDE OF EXAMPLES THAT I

1:30:15CAN NAME. ONE LET'S START OFFWS

1:30:19COSTING TAXPAYERS NEAY

1:30:21$2 MILLION. AND THE OFFICE OF

1:30:23COMMUNITY SAFETY HAS BEEN

1:30:26RESISTANT TO EVERY EFFORT FROM

1:30:27THE THIS BODY TO REI IN OFF

1:30:31DUTY SO OUR TAXPAYERS DON'T HAVE

1:30:34TO PAY FOR MPD SIDE KICKS THAT'S

1:30:37PUTS IN LITIGATIVE LIABILITY.

1:30:43. AFTER OVERSPENDING THEIR

1:30:44BUDGET BY $20 MILLION AN WAW

1:30:48PROS POSING TO OVERSPEND THEIR

1:30:49BUDGET BY OVER 20% BO GOING

1:30:54INTO 2027. PLEASE TELL ME HOW

1:30:55WE HAVE NOT SEEN MPD BE EMBOLD

1:30:56PED EVEN IN THE 2027 PROPOSED

1:30:59BUDGET WHERE ONCE AIN, THE

1:31:00MAYOR HAS PROPOSED MPD TO

1:31:02RECEIVE OVER 20% INCASE

1:31:05LITERALLY CUTTING, MAKING

1:31:06SIGNIFICANT CUTS TO DEPARTMENTS

1:31:07LIKE THE NGHBORHOOD SAFETY

1:31:09DEPARTMENT THAT HAS BEEN CHARGED

1:31:10WITH DOING OUR COMPREHENSIVE

1:31:13VIOLENCE PREVENTION WORK.

1:31:14PLEASE TELL ME HOW THERE'S

1:31:16PARITY THERE. ALSO PLEASE TELL

1:31:18ME AGAIN HOW WE'VE SEEN THEM NOT

1:31:20BE EMBOLDENED WHEN THIS OFFICE

1:31:23ALSO CHAMPIONED USING PUBLIC

1:31:24SAFETY AID NEARLY $19 MILLION

1:31:26THAT WE USE BECAUSE OF COUNCIL

1:31:29INTERVENTION NOT USING AND

1:31:30PAYING ANY SERIOUSNESS TO OCS

1:31:32RECOMMENDATION TO THEN USE THAT

1:31:34$19 MILLION TO PAY FOR POLICE

1:31:35CONTRACT RACES AND BONUSES. AND

1:31:38INSTEAD WE UD THOSE DOLLARS TO

1:31:39ACTUALLY SUPPORT ROBUST PUBLIC

1:31:40SAFETY SERVICES THAT THE OFFICE

1:31:43HAS NOT BEEN AN ALLY AND

1:31:46CHAMPION ON THRGHOUT THAT

1:31:47TIME. SO I JUST HAVE TO NAME

1:31:48OF, NO, ACTUALLY, THE EXISTING

1:31:50CREATION OF THIS OFFICE AND

1:31:52ACTING AS IF THESE THINGS HAVE

1:31:53NOT HAPPENED THAT THIS OFFICE IS

1:31:55NOT OVERSEEING CONTRACTS AGAIN

1:31:56BEING GIVEN TO PEOPLE'S

1:31:58BOYFRIENDS, THAT'S RECKLESS TO

1:31:59KEEP IT IN PLACE. AND WE'RE NOT

1:32:01GOING TO WHITE WASH ALSO THE

1:32:03FA THAT WE HAVE PROGRESS

1:32:05REPORTS THAT NAMES THE O

1:32:08FAILED LEADERSHIP IN GETTING US

1:32:10IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE MDHR

1:32:14SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. WE'RE NOT

1:32:15GOING TO SAY THEY'RE DOING A

1:32:16PHENOMENAL JOB. OUR INDEPENDENT

1:32:17EVALUATORS HAVE NAMED THAT

1:32:19REPEATEDLY IN PROGRESS REPORTS

1:32:20THAT IS VERY CLEAR. THEY DON'T

1:32:22KNOW WHO IS RUNNING THE SHOW.

1:32:25ON AGAIN WHERE ARE WE PAYING

1:32:27$400,000 FOR? WHY DO WE HAVE

1:32:28THIS OFFICE? HAVE A CHIEF OFSTE

1:32:31THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND THOSE

1:32:32WERE THEIR MAIN CHARGES.

1:32:33AND ALSO GOING TO THE PNT OF

1:32:34SAFE AND THRIVING. I'M SO GLAD

1:32:37YOU ALL BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE

1:32:38COUNCIL HAS HAD TO REPEATEDLY

1:32:42INTERVENE TO PRESERVE THE ASPECT

1:32:43AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THAT

1:32:44WORK TO GET US TO POLICE SAFETY

1:32:46ALTERNATIVES.

1:32:47AND WE'VE SEEN OCS AND THE

1:32:49MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION RESIST

1:32:50THOSE EFFORTS TIME AND TIME

1:32:51AGAIN. WE CAN POINT TO A CLEAR

1:32:53EXAMPLE IN THAT, AND EVERY OTHER

1:32:56DEPARTMENT HAS ADOPTED A BROAD

1:32:59COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT TIES

1:33:01THEIR COMMITMENT AND CODIFIES IT

1:33:02TO A LEVEL OF WORK. A BODY OF

1:33:04WORK. WE HAVE THE 2040 PLAN FOR

1:33:08CPAP. WE HAVE THE CLIMATE

1:33:10EQUITY PLAN FOR HEALTH AND

1:33:11SUSTAINABILITY. WE HAVE THE

1:33:12TRANSPORTATION ACTION PLAN FOR

1:33:14PUBLIC WORKS. AND VISION ZERO.

1:33:16BUT THE ADMINISTRATION AND OCS

1:33:17HAS FAILED TO EVEN ON ADOPT THE

1:33:20SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITIES

1:33:21PLAN THAT GIBS US A -- GIVES US

1:33:23A TEN-YEAR VISION ON HOW TO DO

1:33:24TH WORK. THEY HAVE FAILED TO

1:33:25ADOPT IT, FORCING COUNCIL TO

1:33:26HAVE TO ADOPT JUST A BASIC

1:33:29SYMBIC RESOLUTION SAYING WE

1:33:30REALLY HOPE THE MAYOR WILL TAKE

1:33:31US SERIOUS ON THIS, PLEASE GIVE

1:33:32US A PINKY PROMISE THAT YOU WILL

1:33:34STAY COMMITTED TO THIS WORK.

1:33:35EVEN THOEWE'VE HAD FOR YEARS NOW

1:33:36FOUR YEARS OF SEEING YOUR

1:33:38ADMINISTRATION AND THIS OFFICE

1:33:40BACKTRACK ON THAT COMMITMENT.

1:33:45SO WE ALSO WHEN WAS VICE CHAIR

1:33:48AND COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ WAS

1:33:49VICE CHAIR OF PUBLIC SAFETY, WE

1:33:51HAD TO BRING IN THE PARTNERS WHO

1:33:53WERE CRITICAL TO THE

1:33:54IMPLEMENTATION OFAFE AND

1:33:55THRIVING COMMUNITIES. IN FACT,

1:33:56THE CONSULTANT WHO MADE IT

1:33:58POSSIBLE, DR. OFF TELLY, THE OCS

1:34:00LEADERSHIP AND THE MAYOR'S

1:34:01STRINGS HAVE REFUSED TO MEET

1:34:02WITH T HIM FOR QUITE

1:34:06SOMETIME, AND IT TOOK ME AND

1:34:07COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ BRINGING

1:34:10DR. OFTELLY TO THE COMMITTEE TO

1:34:12SAY AT LEAST HOW CAN WE SUPPORT

1:34:13YOUR WORK TO GET THE CITY TO

1:34:15TAKE IT SERIOUS. WE BROUGHT

1:34:17NATIONAL TEC TECHNICAL

1:34:19ASSISTANCE FOR GUN VIOLENCE WORK

1:34:20BECAUSE THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

1:34:21SAFETY REFUSED TO TAKE HEED TO

1:34:23THEIR BEST PRACTICES SO WE CAN

1:34:23HAVE STRENGTHENED AND EFFECTIVE

1:34:25PROGRAMS UNDER OUR GUN VIOLENCE

1:34:27PREVENTION BODY OF WORK. WE HAI

1:34:30DON'T GET PAID $400,000 TO DO

1:34:32THAT. WE PAID SOMEONE AND ONCE

1:34:34AGAIN, THE LOAD OF THAT WORK OF

1:34:36OVERSIGHT OF, OF MISMANAGEMENT,

1:34:38CALLING THAT OUT, OF CALLING OUT

1:34:40FRAUD WASTE AND ABUSE, THAT HAS

1:34:42FELL AT THE HANDS OF THIS BODY,

1:34:44AND I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE ON

1:34:45WITH THAT PATTERN FOR ANOTHER

1:34:46FOUR TO F TEN YEARS.

1:34:48AND IT'S OKAY, WE CAN SAY THIS

1:34:50STRUURE DOES NOT WORK, AND

1:34:51THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO

1:34:53MAKE THOSE CHANGES, SO THAT WE

1:34:55CAN TRULY WITH EFFICACY AND DUE

1:34:57DILIGENCE KEEP CARRYING OUT THE

1:34:59WORK THAT WE ALREADY HAVE BEEN

1:35:00DOING IN SPITE OF OCS'S

1:35:02EXISTENCE TO TRULY CREATE RIGHT

1:35:06RESPONSES FOR OUR RESIDENCE AT

1:35:07THE RIGHT TIME. -- RESIDENTS TRE

1:35:09RIGHT TIME.

1:35:09>> THANK YOU. NEXT I WIL

1:35:11RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEER

1:35:11WHING.

1:35:12>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CGHTAI AND

1:35:13JUST TO NAME A POINT,

1:35:15COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY ASKED TO

1:35:16PLEASE POINT TO ONE INSTANCE

1:35:18WHERE THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

1:35:20SAFETY HAS SHOWN TO KIND OF

1:35:22ADVANCE SMALLER DEPARENTS.

1:35:24ADVANCE DEPARTMENTS THAT AREN'T

1:35:29FULLY TAKING THE OXYGEN THROUGH

1:35:32MPD. WE JUST HAD DIRECTOR

1:35:34HARRINGTON SIT IN FRONT OF US

1:35:37FIVE, TEN MINUTES AGO AND SAY

1:35:38THERE WERE HURDLES IN MY PATH,

1:35:41AND WHOUT THE OFFICE OF

1:35:42COMMUNITY SAFETY, THIS WORK

1:35:45WOULD N BE COMPLETED. WOULD

1:35:47NOT HAVE BEEN DONE. RIGHT AND

1:35:49SO THAT JUST HAPPENED FIVE

1:35:50MINUTES AGO. AND AGAIN, RIGHT,

1:35:52AND I KNOW WE'RE CHATTING

1:35:55SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SAFE AND

1:35:58THRIVING COMMUNITIES REPORT,

1:35:59THIS IS THE WORK THAT I DID

1:36:00PRIOR TO THIS ROLE. RIGHT? I

1:36:04REMEMBER DEPUTY COMMISSIONER

1:36:06COMMISSIONER JEFFRIES ASK HEY

1:36:08CAN YOU DO A DEEP DIVE ANALYSIS

1:36:12INTO THE SAFE AND THRIVING

1:36:13COMMUNITIES REPORT AND HOW IT

1:36:14ATTACHES TO THE SETTLEMENT

1:36:15AGREEMENT? HOW IT ATTACHES TO

1:36:17THE CONSENT DECREE, AND HOW ALL

1:36:20OF THESE THINGS WORK TOGETHER IN

1:36:21THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS? RIGHT

1:36:24AND I IT IS SOMETHING ABOUT --

1:36:25RIGHT A $400,000 SALARY, THAT

1:36:27MIGHT BE A LITTLE B TOO MUCH.

1:36:31LET'S ADJUST THE SALARY.

1:36:34THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS THAT WE

1:36:36CAN DO HERE. RIGHT? IF WE ARE

1:36:40FRUSTRATED BY ABOUT A SALARY,

1:36:41LET'S ADJUST THE SALARY. LET'S

1:36:45DO THAT. RIGHT? I THINK THESE

1:36:46ARE THINGS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE

1:36:49ARE OPEN TO UPDATES, TO CHANGES,

1:36:51RIGHT, DO I THINK THAT THE MAYOR

1:36:53PROBABLY HAS TO ABDICATE SOME OF

1:36:55THE AUTHORITY TO THE

1:36:57COMMISSIONER OF COMMUNITYSAFETYE

1:37:00THAT CONVERSATION. RIGHT? AND

1:37:04AGAIN, RIGHT, AND I KNOW COUNCIL

1:37:06PRESIDENT PAYNE SAID RIGHT, IF

1:37:09RIGHT, I DON'T EXPECT A SINGLE

1:37:11INDIVIDUAL IN THIS CITY NOT

1:37:15MYSELF, NOT T COMMISSIONER OF

1:37:16COMMUNITY SAFETY, NOT THE MAYOR,

1:37:20TO HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER EVERY

1:37:23SINGLE BODY OF WORK,

1:37:26PARTICULARLY THE BU WORK THAT

1:37:28IS SO IMPORTANT OF POLICE

1:37:29ALTERNATIVE WORK AND THE WORK

1:37:31LIKE THE SAFE AND THRIVING

1:37:33COMMUNITIES SETTLEMENT

1:37:34AGREEMENT, THE CONSENT DECREE,

1:37:36THE GAPS ANALYSIS REPORT.

1:37:37RIGHT? I DON'T LIKE, IT IS NOT

1:37:39THAT I HAVE A, A CRIS OF

1:37:45SUPPORT FOR THE MAYOR. I DON'T

1:37:48EXPECT ANYBODY TO DO THAT. NOT

1:37:50A SINGLE PERSON. I DON'T THINK

1:37:52WE SHOULD. RIGHT? THIS MOVES

1:37:53AS Y YOU NOTED COUNCIL

1:37:56PRESIDENT EARLIER, RIGHT, IT'S A

1:37:58FALSE DICHOTOMY TO SAY WE'RE

1:38:00MOVING BACK TO THE SAME AND THEN

1:38:01YOU KIND O POINTED AT HOW THIS

1:38:03WORK WENT TO 14 DIFFERENT

1:38:05BOSSES. WE ARE NOW MOVING

1:38:06RIGHT, WITH THIS, THE APPROL

1:38:09OF THIS POLICY, WE WOU MOVE

1:38:11EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF THIS WORK

1:38:14UNDER ONE PERSON, UNDER THE COO,

1:38:17AND SO WE'RE EXPECTING OUR

1:38:19CURRENT COO, MARGARET ANDERSON

1:38:21KELLIHER TO HAVE THE DIRECT

1:38:23OVERSIGHT OF EVERY SINGLE

1:38:24DEPARTMENT, RIGHT AND I'M GOING

1:38:25TO, I'M GOING TO READ IT FROM

1:38:28THE RESOLUTION THAT IS IN FRONT

1:38:30OF ME. PERFECT. THE CITY'S

1:38:33OPERATION OFFICER SHALL BE

1:38:34RESPONSIBLE UNDER THE MAYOR'S

1:38:35OVERSIGHT FOR THE EFFECTIVE AND

1:38:37EFFICIENT OPERATION OF ALL

1:38:40ADMINISTRAVE DEPARTMENTS. IT

1:38:41CURRENTLY SAYS NOT PERTAINING TO

1:38:42COMMUNITY SAFETY FUNCTIONS,

1:38:46WHICH UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF

1:38:47THE COMMUNITY SAFETY OFFICER,

1:38:48RIGHT? EXCEPT FOR THE

1:38:50MINNEAPOLIS EMERGENCY

1:38:51COMMUNICATIONS CENTER, THE

1:38:52MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE

1:38:53DEPARTMENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD

1:38:54SAFETY DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE

1:38:55DEPARTMENT,IGHT? I JUST -- I

1:38:59JUST -- AGAIN, NOT UNDERSTANDING

1:39:00THAT NOW WE'RE ASKING A SINGLE

1:39:03INDIVIDUAL TO OVERSEE ALL THESE

1:39:05PIECES OF WORK WHEN WE'RE SAYING

1:39:07AGAIN THE PEOPLE THAT DO THIS

1:39:08WORK AND SAY HEY, WE NEED THIS

1:39:10PERSON TO ADVOCATE FOR US TO THE

1:39:12MAYOR. TO THESE INDIVIDUALS

1:39:14THAT DO THIS WORK. YEAH. IT'S

1:39:18JUST, AGAIN, I THINK I AM

1:39:19RUNNING OUT OF WORDS TO SAY, BUT

1:39:22YEAH, THANK YOU.

1:39:25>> THANK YOU. NEXT I'LL

1:39:28RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER VETAW

1:39:29FOLLOWED BY CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

1:39:32>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. I

1:39:33WANT TO KIND OF GET BACK TO THE

1:39:37ACTUAL RESOLUTION BEFORE US. I

1:39:39GUESS I'M TRYING TO GET AN

1:39:41UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE GOAL

1:39:42IS HERE. I HAVEN'T SEEN A

1:39:43DOLLAR AMOUNT LIKE WHAT THE

1:39:45COST -- THIS IS TO THE AUTHORS.

1:39:47I HAVEN'T SEEN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT

1:39:48IN WCH WE'RE GOING TO SAVE.

1:39:50THIS FEELS LIKE JUST KIND OF

1:39:52MOVING PEOPLE ARCHED AND NOT

1:39:54NECESSARILY -- PEOPLE AROUND AND

1:39:54NOT NECESSARILY ELIMINATING

1:39:55THINGS. I HAVE A LOT OF

1:39:58QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THIS IS

1:40:01ACTUALLY -- WHAT THIS OINANCE

1:40:03IS ACTUALLY ASKING FOR. AND

1:40:07THEN YOU KNOW, I HAVE A

1:40:09DIFFERENCE OF OPINION WITH SOME

1:40:13OF THE SLIDES IN THE PRESENT

1:40:15OPTION. I WISH WE WOULD'VE

1:40:17BEEN ABLE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION

1:40:18ON OUR EXPERIENCES WITH THE

1:40:19OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY.

1:40:22ALTHOUGH I DO AGREE THAT THIS

1:40:25OFFICE HASN'T PROVEN TO ME THAT

1:40:27IT'S AS VALUABLE AS SOME PEOPLE

1:40:28THINK IT IS. BUT I DO HAVE, I

1:40:30CERTAINLY HAVE DIFFERENT

1:40:33EXPERIENCES WITH THE OFFICE OF

1:40:35COMMUNITY SAFET I THINK

1:40:36THEY'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB AT

1:40:41REALLY LOOKING AT CONTRACTS THAT

1:40:42ARE IN THIS OFFICE, AND HOLDING

1:40:45PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. WHEN I GOT

1:40:46TO CITY HALL, THERE WERE NEWS

1:40:48STORIES WHERE PEOPL WERE SAYING

1:40:49THEY WERE JUST GIVING REPORTS

1:40:50OVER THE PHONE OR LIKE

1:40:53SUBMITTING INVOICES THROUGH TEXT

1:40:55MESSAGES, AND I MEAN, THERE WAS

1:40:56SOME STUFFOING ON AROUND HERE

1:40:58THAT WAS JUST SO SHADY, AND I

1:41:00DIDN'T HAVE THE ANSWERS FOR THE

1:41:03QUESTIONS AND COMMUNITY AND NOR

1:41:04DID I WANT TO ANSWER THOSE KDS

1:41:06OF QUESTIONS SO I REALLY DO

1:41:07APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE

1:41:08OFFICE HAS DONE IN CLEANING UP A

1:41:12LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON

1:41:15FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. ALSO,

1:41:17YOU KNOW, THE COMMENT WAS MADE

1:41:19THAT NOBODY ASKED THE OFFICE OF

1:41:21COMMUNITY SAFETY TO WORK ON

1:41:23DRONES OR ON A TRAINING CENTER.

1:41:25I DID. AND I'M SOMEBODY. SO

1:41:28SOMEBODY'S CERTAINLY ASKED, NOT

1:41:29ONLY DID I ASK, I WORKED WITH

1:41:35THEM A COUPLE OYEARS ON A

1:41:36DRONE PILOT PROGRAM, AND WE'VE

1:41:37HAD CONVERSATIONS PROBABLY EVEN

1:41:40WHEN I WAS ON THE PARK BOARD

1:41:41ABOUT A TRAINING CENTER. I

1:41:44CAN'T REMEMBER CONVERSATIONS --

1:41:46I CAN REMEMBER CONVERSATIONS

1:41:47EIGHT YEARS AGO ABOUT A TRAINING

1:41:49CENTER BEING OUT AT THE FORT

1:41:51SNELLING SITE SO THAT WAS

1:41:52SOMETHING ON THE RADAR F THIS

1:41:53OFFICE WHEN I WAS ELECTED TO

1:41:54CITY COUNCIL. WHERE MY

1:41:58STRUGGLES HAVE BEEN IS

1:41:59CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE

1:42:00OFFICE GOT SET UP, IT GOT SET UP

1:42:04JUST KIND OF -- I DIDN'T

1:42:05UNDERSTAND WHERE WE WERE GOING

1:42:06WITH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

1:42:08SAFETY WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY

1:42:09SET UP. OUR FIRST COMMISSIONER

1:42:11HAD IT SET UP LIKE A

1:42:14COMMUNICATIONS -- IT WAS JUST A

1:42:15LOT OF PEOPLE THERE WHO WERE, IT

1:42:17FELT LIKE A COMNICATIONS FARM

1:42:18AT ONE TIME. AND NOW IT FEELS

1:42:20LIKE A SECOND LAW OFFICE TO ME.

1:42:23IT DOESN'T FR FEEL LIKE I'VE

1:42:27BEEN TOLD IT IS GOING TO BE.

1:42:28THAT'S WHY I STRUGGLE WITH THIS

1:42:29OFFICE. THAT IS WHY I HE A

1:42:33HARD TIME GOING BACK TO

1:42:35COMMUNITY A SAYING THIS IS

1:42:36WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM THE

1:42:38OFFICEF COMMUNITY SAFETY.

1:42:42LIKE, IT'S JUST NOT CLEAR. IS

1:42:43VER BEEN CLEAR. I HAVE LIKE

1:42:48TH IS SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.

1:42:49I CARE ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. I

1:42:51WANT US TO HAVE A STEMHAT

1:42:53WORKS, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED

1:42:55THIS OFFICE FOR THESE SYSTEMS TO

1:42:57WORK. HAS THE OFFICE OF

1:42:59COMMUNITY SAFETY HAD SUCCESS

1:43:00WITH 911? ABSOLUTELY. WHEN,

1:43:02YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO WE, WE HAD A

1:43:04PROBLEM. AND THEY, AND THE

1:43:06COMMISSIONER WENT IN. AND

1:43:08WORKED WITH 911 AND HELPED TO

1:43:11CHANGE SOME THINGS. BUT DO I

1:43:13BELIEVE THE11 DIRECTOR

1:43:14WOULD'VE DONE THE SAME THING?

1:43:16ABSOLUTELY. IS IT GREAT TO HAVE

1:43:17PEOPLE SUPPORTING YOU AND YOU

1:43:20KNOW, OTHERS THAT ARE ASSIGNED

1:43:21TO THAT? YES. ANDO I THINK A

1:43:24LOT OF THE WORK CAN BEONE

1:43:27WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVINGN

1:43:29OFFICE TO DO THAT,UT I, THIS

1:43:32IS SAYING PMIND REIB AS WELL,

1:43:37RIGHT, AUTHORS? AND SO LIKE I

1:43:38FEEL LIKE WE KEEP HAVING THIS

1:43:40CONVERSATION ABOUT OCS. I KNOW

1:43:42THAT OCS DOES A HOT TOPIC, BUT

1:43:44THERE ARE THREE DEPARTMENTS HERE

1:43:46THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

1:43:48HAVEN'T SEEN LIKE WHAT IS THE

1:43:49COST SAVINGS BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT

1:43:51WARD 4 RESIDENTS ARE WORRIED

1:43:54ABOUT. THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT

1:43:55THE LEVY, AND MY JOB IS TO BRING

1:43:57THE LEVY DOWN. SO IF I'M GOING

1:43:59BACK TO WARD 4 AND SAYING WE'RE

1:44:01ELIMINATING SOMETHING, I ALSO

1:44:04WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY THE LEVY

1:44:07IS GOING DOWN. WHAT IS THE COST

1:44:08SAVINGS OF OCHE OF THESE

1:44:10DEPARTMENTS.

1:44:11WHAT'S IS THE COST STRUCTURE?

1:44:12THIS IS THE ISSUE I HAD LAST

1:44:16WEEK. WHAT IS THE SUCTURE?

1:44:19O'S DONE THE WORK TO FIGURE IT

1:44:20OUT, BRING PEOPLE ON BOARD, SHOW

1:44:22THE COST SAVINGS? HOW ARE WE

1:44:24MERGING THESE DEPARTMENTS WITH

1:44:25OTHER DEPARTMENTS? IS THERE A

1:44:27JOB LOSS? IS THERE, WHAT WORK

1:44:30WILL CONTINUE AND HOW WILL THE

1:44:32WORK CONTINUE. AND I DON'T SEE

1:44:33THIS IN THIS PROPOSAL. I

1:44:37CERTAINLY SUPPORT A VERSION OF

1:44:39SAVING SOME MONEY, LOWERING THE

1:44:42LEVYTHE MAYOR, THE MAYOR'S

1:44:4511.8 OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS,

1:44:47IS JUS AN AVERAGE. IN WARD 4,

1:44:50IT'S 20%. THAT NUMBER IS JUST

1:44:52LIKE A NUMBER. THAT IS OUT

1:44:55THERE. THE NOR SIDE I GOING

1:44:57TO GET HIT HARD BY THIS LEVY. IE

1:45:02GOING BACK SUPPORT THE CITY

1:45:03TAXING YOU AT THIS NUMBER AND

1:45:06THEY'RE NOT GETTING V VALUABLE

1:45:08SERVICES. THAT'S WHAT MATTERS

1:45:09TO ME. AND IF THAT MEANS

1:45:11ELIMINATING OFFICE, THEN

1:45:13ELIMINATE OFFICE. I'M READY TO

1:45:14DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO

1:45:17MAKE SURE CORE CITY SERVICES ARE

1:45:18THERE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE

1:45:20MULTIPLE LAYERS OF BUREAUCRATS

1:45:21WHERE PEOPLEAN'T EVEN GET WHAT

1:45:22THEY NEED, CAN'T GET A QUESTION

1:45:24ANSWERED, AND I'VE SAID IT

1:45:25BEFORE, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

1:45:26I HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING

1:45:29QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THESE

1:45:30DEPAMENTS, AND NOT JUSTCS,

1:45:32REIB, AND PMI. EVERY SINGLE

1:45:34DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF

1:45:35MINNEAPOLIS HAS ITS OWN VERSION

1:45:37OF BUREAUCRATS. EVERY SINGLEON,

1:45:41WHAT KIND OF EVALUATION ARE WE

1:45:43DOING ON THIS? HOW ARE WE

1:45:46REALLY PRESENTING THIS AS A

1:45:48PACKAGE THAT NOT ONLY WE CAN GET

1:45:49BEHIND AS A COUNCIL, BUT THATTHW

1:45:52THIS WORK IS MOVING FORWARD.

1:45:54I'M LISTENING TO THIS

1:45:56CONVERSATION. THERE ARE

1:45:57MULTIPLE VERSIONS OF THIS FROM

1:46:00WH PEOPLE ARE SAYING. SOME

1:46:03PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE WORK IS

1:46:04GOG AWAY. SOME PEOPLE ARE

1:46:05SAYING WE CAN STILL DO THE WORK

1:46:06AND THE WORK WILL BE OVER HERE.

1:46:08IT'S CONFUSING. WE HAV TO

1:46:09FIGURE THIS OUT BEFORE WE

1:46:10PRESENT THIS TO RESIDENTS, AND

1:46:12SAY THIS ISHAT WE'RE GOING TO

1:46:14DO. THIS IS THE FUTURE OF THIS

1:46:15WORK. I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH

1:46:18WHOMEVER WANTS TO WORK WITH

1:46:19FIGURING THIS OUT, BUT THIS JUST

1:46:20DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S FIGURED

1:46:22OUT RIGHT NOW. THIS FEELS LIKE

1:46:24JUST A PRESENTATION OF -- I'M

1:46:27LIKE, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND

1:46:29WHAT WRE ELIMINATING, WHERE

1:46:32IT'S GOING, HOW MUCH IT'S SAVING

1:46:33SO THAT WOULD BE A STARTING

1:46:34PLE FOR ME.

1:46:37>> THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL

1:46:39RECOGNIZE CHAIR CHOWDHURY

1:46:41FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBERPALMIS.

1:46:43>>> THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR.

1:46:47YEAH, I TEND TO AGREE WITH THAT

1:46:50STATEMENT MADE I'M NOT SURE IF

1:46:51WE'VE GOTTEN THE RETURN ON

1:46:53INVESTMENT IN THIS. IT SEEMS

1:46:57LIKE WHAT WE ARE, WHAT WE ARE

1:46:59SAYING IS WE WANT TO DEDICATE

1:47:02$2.1 MILLION TO CINATION.

1:47:04AND I THINK WE CAN SPEND LESS ON

1:47:07COORDINATION. I ALSO THINK IN

1:47:10THIS MOMENT IN TIME WHERE WE ARE

1:47:11SEEING A $60 MILLION BUDGET GAP,

1:47:14WE ARE SEEING CUTS ALL ACROSS

1:47:16PARTMENTS IN THE CITY OF

1:47:19MINNEAPOLIS, AND WE KNOW WE HAVE

1:47:20LAYERS AND LAYERS OF MANAGEMENT

1:47:22AT THE TOP, WE HAVE TO ASK THE

1:47:24QUESTION OF, THE EXISTING

1:47:27POSITIONS THAT WE'RE KEEPING,

1:47:28THE LEADERS THAT WE HAVE, THAT

1:47:30ARE IN DEPARTMENT HEAD ROLES,

1:47:32WHAT IS MORE THAT EVERYONE CAN

1:47:34TAKE ON. IS THIS NOW THE TIME

1:47:36WHERE DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE TO

1:47:38FLEX THEIR COORDINATION MUSCLE.

1:47:41I THINK IT HAS TO BE. I THINK

1:47:44WE'RE GIVEN A LOT OF TOUGH

1:47:45CHOICES, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE

1:47:46PLACES WHERE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT

1:47:48TOUGH CHOICES. I THINK THERE IS

1:47:50A FAIR PERSPECVE HERE. I

1:47:52THINK THE PRESENTATIONS SHARED

1:47:53ONE PERSPECTIVE. I SHARE SOME

1:47:55THOSE PERSPECTIVES. BUT

1:47:56THERE IS ALSO A PERSPECTIVE HERE

1:47:58OF SAYING ARE WEAYERING TOO

1:48:00MUCH MANEMENT WITHIN THIS ONE

1:48:03SINGULAR DEPARTMENT? RIGHT? I

1:48:06DON'T -- I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE

1:48:07THE VALUE OF HAVING A

1:48:10COMMISSIONER AT

1:48:12$400,000 SALARIES AND FRINGE,

1:48:13AND AIDE TO THAT COMMISSIONER, A

1:48:15CHIEF OF STAFF, A DEPUTY

1:48:17COMMISSIONER, AND THEN A

1:48:19DIRECTOR UNDER IT, AND THEN A

1:48:20MANAGER, AND THEN ANALYST.

1:48:22ESPECIALLY NOT IN A MOMENT WHERE

1:48:24WE'RE, WE ARE GNG TO TELL

1:48:26STAFF MEMBERS OR HAVE TOLD STAFF

1:48:28MEMBERS YOU'REAID OFF. I

1:48:31THINK THAT'S ONE PART OF THE

1:48:33CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING

1:48:34HERE, AND I, I CERTAINLY DO

1:48:36THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE

1:48:38CONVERSATIONS BEFORE WE GET TO A

1:48:39FINAL PLACE. I WOULD LIKE TO

1:48:40SPEAK WITH THE AUTHORS FURTHER

1:48:42ABOUT THIS . I FEEL LIKE

1:48:45THIS CONVERSATIONAS

1:48:48ILLUMINATING. I THINK THE OTHER

1:48:48PIECE OF THIS IS PART OF THE

1:48:50WORK. RIGHT? THE ALTERNATIVES

1:48:55TO PICING, THE NEIGHBORHOOD

1:48:56SAFETY. I THINK IT'S A STRAWMAN

1:48:57ARGUNT TO SAY THAT ELIMINATING

1:49:00THIS IN CODE ELIMINATES THAT

1:49:03WORK. I DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T.

1:49:05AND WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR ABOUT

1:49:07THAT. BAUSE THAT SENDS THE

1:49:08WRONG SIGNAL TO COMMUNITY.

1:49:11RIGHT? WE'RE STILL TALKING

1:49:12ABOUT MAINTAINING THE

1:49:14NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT.

1:49:15I THINK THE THING THAT WE NEED

1:49:15TO TALK ABOUT IS THE STRUCTURAL

1:49:18CONVERSATION WITH THIS

1:49:20ORDINANCE, UNFORNATELY CAN'T

1:49:21UNTIE IT FROM THE BUDGET PROCESS

1:49:22AS MUCH AS WE LIKE TO BE, I

1:49:23THINK WE NEED TO SEPARATE IT A

1:49:25LITTLE BIT. BUT I DON'T THINK

1:49:26WE CAN ENTIRELY SEPARATE IT. I

1:49:31DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO PUT IN

1:49:34AMBER THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

1:49:37SAFETY ONE DEPUTY AND AS MANY

1:49:39STAFF AS IS NEEDED. THAT'S WHAT

1:49:40THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY SAYS.

1:49:42DON'T KNOW IF WE ND THAT. WE

1:49:43ALSO DON'T NEED AN ORDINANCE IN

1:49:47PLACE IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE A

1:49:49MODEL FOR US TO KIND OF TRY TO

1:49:52DO THIS IN A WAY THAT MEETS

1:49:54THE NEEDS OF DOING THE WORK OF

1:49:56THE SAFE AND THRIVING

1:49:58COMMUNITIES REPORT, THE

1:49:59SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, THINKING

1:50:02ABOUT MORE CREATIVE WAYSO

1:50:05IMPROVE COORDINATION. WE'VE

1:50:07DONE THAT BEFE. WE'VE HAD

1:50:09DIVISIONS THAT WEREN'T WRITTEN

1:50:09INTO ORDINANCE. WE HAVE

1:50:11POSITIONS TT AREN'T WRITTEN

1:50:12INTO ORDINANCE. THAT'S THE

1:50:15BUDGET CONVERSATION. THAT' THE

1:50:17FTE CONVERSATION. I DEFINITELY

1:50:18FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET THAT FOR

1:50:20ARE LESS THAN $2.1 MILLION. I

1:50:23GENUINELY DO. AND WE'RE

1:50:26TITENING OUR BELT. EVERYONE'S

1:50:27GOT TO TIGHTEN THEIR BELT, AND I

1:50:28WILL SAY, THEETURN ON

1:50:30INVESTMENT ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY

1:50:31WORK, I'M NOT SOLD ON IT EITHER.

1:50:33I MEAN FOR ME, I THINK ABOUT THE

1:50:37CRIES AROUND IMPROVING DOMESTIC

1:50:40VIOLENCE INCIDENTS FOR VICTIMS

1:50:41AND SURVIVORS HERE IN DOMESTIC

1:50:44VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, IN

1:50:47OUR, IN OUR AUDIT REPORT THAT WE

1:50:50GOT ON THE AFTER-ACTION REPORT

1:50:53ON THE MURDER OF ALLISON LUSSIER

1:50:55A KEY POINT WAS THAT WE DIDN'T

1:50:58HA COMMUNICATION WITH THE

1:50:59COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND WE

1:51:02LEARNED THAT IN THAT MEETING,

1:51:04THERE WAS STILL EFFORTS TO TRY

1:51:05TO COORDINATE THAT CONVERSATION

1:51:08WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THROUGH

1:51:10THE COMMISSIONER TO THE CHIEF OF

1:51:11POLICE. THAT'S NOT THE RETURN

1:51:14ON INVESTMENT ON THE

1:51:14COORDINATIONOR $2.1 MILLION.

1:51:18HOMELESSNESSMENTNESS.

1:51:21WE HAVE BEEN USING MAINLY A

1:51:22POLICE ONLY TOOL TO TELL PEOPLE

1:51:23TO MOVE FROM PLACE TO PLACE,

1:51:25WHERE TO PUT FENCING UP. WE

1:51:27AREN'T LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES.

1:51:29VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION, WE'RE

1:51:30TALKING ABOUT CUTTING CONTRACTS.

1:51:31WEWE'VE HAD TO FIGHT TO

1:51:35SAVE THE COMMUNITY AMBDEROUS

1:51:37PROGRA. THE SETTLEMENT

1:51:38AGREEMENT. WE ALL AGREE WE HAVE

1:51:39TO DO A LOT BETTER. THE NEXT

1:51:41POLICE CHIEF AGREES WE HAVE TO

1:51:42DO A LOT BETTER. BUT WE

1:51:45HAVEN'T -- WE'VE BEEN FALLING

1:51:46BEHIND. SO THAT $2.1 MILLION IN

1:51:51COORDINATION, IS IT GIVING US

1:51:52THAT FULL RETURN? I THINK ABOUT

1:51:55THE I.C.E. OCCUPATION AND HOW

1:51:57CONSTITUENTS WERE N CLEAR ON

1:51:59WHO TO CALL WHEN A SITUATION

1:52:02ARISED. HEY WERE LIKE IF I

1:52:04CALL 911 AND SAY THERE'S AN ICE

1:52:07RR AGENT, AM I GOING TO GET A

1:52:09RESPONSE? AND THEN ON MYND

1:52:10I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, AND

1:52:12IT'S UNCLEAR. THE DIRECTIVE IS

1:52:14UNCLEAR. AT ONE POINTT WAS

1:52:15NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEND AN

1:52:17OFFICER IF SOMEONE SAYS THAT.

1:52:19ANOTHER MAYBE A CHANGE. I FEEL

1:52:20LIKE THAT WAS A KEY PLACE. SO I

1:52:24WOULD, I WOULD PROPOSE TO THIS

1:52:26BODY THAT PERHAPS WE DON'T ND

1:52:28TO CODIFY A MODEL. PERHAPS WE

1:52:30NEEDO HAVE A MODEL GROW, PROVE

1:52:34ITSELF, THAT'S LESS EXPENVE.

1:52:38AND THEN EVALUATE IT AND CODIFY

1:52:39IT AT A LATER TIME IF THAT'S AN

1:52:41INTEREST TO OTHERS. MAYBE

1:52:44THAT'S A FORMAON IN, WITH THE

1:52:46NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT.

1:52:47MAYBE THERE IS A SEPARATE THING.

1:52:48THE LAST THING IN MY LAST MINUTE

1:52:50THAT I DID WANT TO JUST CLARIFY

1:52:55WITH THE GO AHEAD FROM

1:52:57COUNCILMEMBER WHITING, IT'S,

1:53:00IT'S IN THIS LANGUAGE IT DOESN'T

1:53:02SAY THAT THE CIT OPERATIONS

1:53:05OFFICER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR

1:53:06IT. THERE'S A BIT OF LANGUAGE

1:53:08THAT SAYS EXCEPT FOR MECC,

1:53:13EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, FIRE,

1:53:14NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT,

1:53:15POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK

1:53:16THAT'S WHERE THAT DESIGNEE ROLE

1:53:19OR THE MAYOR PROVIDES THAT

1:53:21FLEXIBILITY TO THINK ABOUT A NEW

1:53:23MODEL A NEW SYSTEM THAT WE COULD

1:53:26COLLABORATIVELY THINK ABOUT.

1:53:27BUT I DON'T -- I'LL JUST CLOSE

1:53:29ON THIS. I DON'T THINK WE NEED

1:53:30TO PUT O $2.1 MILLION FO

1:53:33COORDINATION IN AMB INTO CODE,

1:53:37ESPECIALLY WHEN I THINK THERE'S

1:53:38BROAD BASED AGREEMENT THAT THERE

1:53:40ARE MAJOR THINGS THAT NEED TO

1:53:42IMPROVE, AND SOME CONSENSUS THAT

1:53:45THERE IS LOT OF THINGS THAT

1:53:46NEED TO IMPROVE.

1:53:50>> THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL

1:53:52COGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER

1:53:53PAISANO FOLLOWED BY

1:53:56COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON.

1:53:57>> EARLIER IN THIS MEETING, A

1:53:59COLLEAGUE SAID WE SHOULDN'T BE

1:54:01CONSOLIDATING DEPARTMENTS THIS

1:54:02CLOSTO BUDGET. BUT NOW WE'RE

1:54:05LOOKING AT A PROPOSAL TOELIMINAT

1:54:09NEW RESPONSIBILITIES INTO NCR.

1:54:12SO THAT FEELS INCONSISTENT WITH

1:54:14OUR TREATMENT OF WHAT WE'RE

1:54:15DOING HERE AT BEST. AS I SAID

1:54:19EARLIER, I CAN APPRECIATE

1:54:20CHANGES TO BE MADE. BUT I'M NOT

1:54:23CONVINCED THIS SHOULD GO AWAY

1:54:25COMPLETELY. THIS OFFICE OF

1:54:25COMMUNITY SAFETY. IS THE

1:54:27PURPOSE TO REALLY SAVE MONEY?

1:54:36SO I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK

1:54:37THAT INSTEAD OF MONEY OR OUR

1:54:38FINANCIAL SITUATION, WHICH WE

1:54:40SURELY NEED TO TALK ABOUT, I

1:54:42BETTER FOCUS MY COMMENTS JUST ON

1:54:42THE MERITS OF THIS PROPOSAL.

1:54:45WITHOUT ANY PROMISE OF EXPENSE

1:54:48SAVING HERE. BECAUSE BASED ON

1:54:50THE COMMENTARY TODAY, I DON'T

1:54:51SEE US SAVING ANY EXPENSES. I

1:54:53SEE US SHIFTING THESE POSITIONS

1:54:56AROUND. WE CAN SEE IN THE LRO

1:54:58REPORT FROM LAST WEEK THAT

1:55:00COMPARABLE CITIES HAVE SOMEORT

1:55:03OF LEADER, CURRENTLY DIRECTING

1:55:05COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC SAFY

1:55:08SYSTEMS. IF WE WERE TO DECOUPLE

1:55:10THESE DEPARTMENTS, WE WOULD LOSE

1:55:11THE THROUGH LINE OF ALLOWING

1:55:13THEM TO WORK IN A MORE

1:55:14COLLABORATIVE WAY. WE'LL HAVE

1:55:17DIFFERENT PUBLIC SAFETY

1:55:19FUNCTIONS WORKING IN SILOS

1:55:21AGAIN. I WAS REALLY GLAD TO

1:55:22HEAR DIRECTOR SAYERS MENTION THE

1:55:26AAR OF 2020, THE AFTER-ACTION

1:55:27REEW. I'LL SAY IT WAS DONE BY

1:55:29PROFESSIONALS AND IT GOES FAR

1:55:31BEYOND MY OWN DIRECT EXPERIENCES

1:55:33HERE. I WAS ONE OF THE MANY

1:55:34PEOPLE INTERVIEWED FORHAT.

1:55:36AND I COULD FRANKLY SCARE YOU

1:55:39WITH ALL OF MY EXPERIENCES PRIOR

1:55:40TO THI OFFICE EXISTING. I

1:55:41WON'T BOTHER BECAUSE THE

1:55:44AFTER-ACTION REVIEW OF 2020

1:55:46TALKS ABOUT THE STATE OF THINGS.

1:55:48THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY

1:55:50PROVIDES A FRAMEWORK. AND THIS

1:55:51IS AN ANSWER TO COUNCILMEMBER

1:55:53WONSLEY'S GENERAL PLEASE TELL ME

1:55:56QUESTIONS. IT OFFERS A VENUE

1:55:59FOR 911 AND NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY

1:56:01TO SUGGEST TO DECIDE AND TO

1:56:03REFINE HOW SAY VIOLENCE

1:56:05INTERRUPTERS MIGHT BE DEPLOYED

1:56:07TO A HEIGHTENED SITUATION. AND

1:56:08IT HAS. AND THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE

1:56:11TO DO THAT BETTER. I FEAR THIS

1:56:14GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE ORDINANCE

1:56:16CHANGE CAME INTO PLAY WITHOUT

1:56:18TALKING T THE DEPARTMENT HEADS

1:56:20OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TEAMS. IF

1:56:22YOU HAD, YOU'D HAVE HEARD LOTS

1:56:24OF THESE STORIES. YOU KNOW, I

1:56:27REALLY APPRECIATED A CASUAL,

1:56:30FRANK CONVERSATION TAY WITH

1:56:32COUNCILMEMBER VETAW AND

1:56:33COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY, AND I

1:56:36CA TOTALLY AGREE WITH

1:56:38COUNCILMEMBER VETAW THAT THE

1:56:39PERSON AT THE TOP CREATED OR

1:56:40RE-CREATED THE CULTURE OF THIS

1:56:42NEW OFFICE. AND I'VE GONE BACK

1:56:44AND ASKED, WHAT THE VERY FIRST

1:56:48PAID PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSIONER

1:56:50DID BECAUSE HE HAD SUCH A VERY

1:56:52DIFFERENT STYLE THAN OUR CURRENT

1:56:54ONE. TODD BARNETTE. YOU KNOW

1:56:56WHAT I HEARD? THAT THESE

1:56:59DIRECTORS STILL APPRECIATED

1:57:00THAT. WHY? ECAUSE THE FIRST

1:57:02EVEN HAVING A PUBLIC SAFETY

1:57:04COMMISSIONER, THEY MADE

1:57:06DECISIONS. IT SET A TONE. NOT

1:57:08A PUNT OR, WELL, LET'S IOLVE

1:57:10MORE PEOPLE IN THIS CONVERSATION

1:57:12AND KEEPALKING. EVEN THE

1:57:15FIRST PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSIONER

1:57:17MADE DECISIONS,ND THAT WAS

1:57:19HELPFUL IN MOVING PUBLIC SAFETY

1:57:22IN OUR CITY FORRD. ONE THING

1:57:25THAT YOU MY COLLEAGUES ARE

1:57:26GIVING UP IN THIS PROPOSAL IS

1:57:28HAVING ANY SHARED RESPONSIBILITY

1:57:29FOR THIS. WE APPOINT THE

1:57:32COMMISSIONER. YOU EXPLICITLY

1:57:33HAND BAC BACK THAT CONTROL TO

1:57:36THE MAYOR, AND I WONDER BASED ON

1:57:40HOW COUNCIL MEETINGS GO IN

1:57:42GENERAL WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO

1:57:43GIVE US ANY SHARED

1:57:44RESPONSIBILITY. I AM HERE TO

1:57:45SCRUTINIZE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY

1:57:46EVERY DAY. B I FEAR THAT IF

1:57:50WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THIS SHARED

1:57:53RESPONSIBILITY, WE WILL JUST

1:57:54STAND FURTHER AWAY AND CONTINUE

1:57:56TO CRITICIZE IT. I THINK IT'S

1:58:00ONE THING AND THIS IS A

1:58:02PERSPECTIVE -- A PERSPECTIVE

1:58:03SHARED BY LOT OF PEOPLE THAT

1:58:06VIEW THIS FROM THE OUTSIDE

1:58:07LOOKING IN, HEY, WE COULD SAVE A

1:58:09LOT OF MONEY HERE. AND THAT'S

1:58:13VALID. BUT YOU'RE NOT PROSING

1:58:14THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE

1:58:15LOOKING TO DO THAT AT ALL. I

1:58:17THINK THE PUBLIC BELIEVES WE

1:58:19COULD BE SAVING MONEY HERE, AND

1:58:20WE SURE COULD, BUT IT SOUNDS

1:58:23LIKE THE PROPOSAL IS JUST TO

1:58:25SHIFT PEOPLE AROUND. I DON'T

1:58:27THINK THAT'S PRODUCTIVE.

1:58:29>> POINT OF ORDER.

1:58:30>> PRESIDENT PAYNE, PLEAS STATE

1:58:31YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

1:58:33>> THE COMMENTS ARE PERTAINING

1:58:36TO THE MOTIVATION OF THIS, AND

1:58:38WE'VE BEEN PRETTY IXPLICIT --

1:58:43EXPLICIT THAT WE WANT TO HAVE AT

1:58:44THIS AS A STRUCTURAL

1:58:45CONVERSATION AND THAT THE RIGHT

1:58:47AND APPROPRIATE PLACE TO DCUSS

1:58:48WHERE THINGS SHIFT AROUND IS

1:58:49THROUGH THE BUDGET MARKUP

1:58:52PROCESS.

1:58:52>>> MAMADAM CHAIR -- I TRIED

1:58:54TO SEPARATE THAT OUT EXPLICITLY,

1:58:56BUDGET SAVINGS VERSUS HOW THIS

1:58:58IS CHANGING THINGS AND I'M DONE

1:58:59WITH MY COMMENTARY.

1:59:04>> GREAT. I'LLECOGNIZE

1:59:06COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON FOLLOWED

1:59:07BY COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY.

1:59:11>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. 'LL JUST

1:59:13NAME THE CORE OF THIS ISSUE FOR

1:59:15ME. AND THAT'S THAT WE HAVE A,

1:59:20AN OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY,

1:59:20AND A COMMISSIONER WHO DOESN'T

1:59:23HAVE THE POWER THAT THEY NEED

1:59:25OVER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT

1:59:28WE EXPECT THEM TO HAVE. THE

1:59:30CHARTER SAYS THAT THE POLICE

1:59:33CHIEF REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE

1:59:35MAYO AND THEN OUR ORDINANCE

1:59:36SAYS THAT THE POLICE CHIEF

1:59:39PORTS KIND OF TO THE OFFICE OF

1:59:40COMMUNITY SAFETY, KIND OF TO THE

1:59:43MAYOR. AND WE SAW WITH OUR

1:59:45PREVIOUS POLICE CHIEF THA HE

1:59:48WAS OUT HERE DOING ALL KINDS OF

1:59:53THINGS, AND NEITHER THE,

1:59:56COMMISSIONER WAS ABLE TO REIGN

1:59:58HIS BEHAVIOR IN, NOR WAS THE

2:00:00MAYOR ABLE TO REIGN HIS BEHAVIOR

2:00:02IN, AND I ASSUME THAT PART O

2:00:05THAT NOT ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS

2:00:07THEMSELVES IN THIS, BUT PART OF

2:00:08THAT IS THAT WEL IT'S HISOB,

2:00:10WELL IT'S HIS JOB, AND THEN THE

2:00:11GRAY AREA IN BETWEEN WHO'S

2:00:13MAGING THIS GRAY AREA IN

2:00:15BETWEEN. THERE WAS NO ONE

2:00:17MANAGING THE GRAY AREA I

2:00:18BETWEEN. AND SO WE HAD A POLICE

2:00:20CHIEF OUT HERE POTENTIALLY

2:00:23SLEEPING WITH EMPLOYEES AND THEN

2:00:25COVERING UP INVESTIGATIONS ABOUT

2:00:28IT.

2:00:28>> [OFF MIC]

2:00:29>> ALLEGEDLY, NOT POTENTIALLY.

2:00:31ALLEGEDLY. THAT WAS MY BAD.

2:00:35ALL RIGHT, IT'S MY TURN. MY

2:00:40TURN. SO ANYWAYS, BACK TO THIS,

2:00:42IS THAT WE, WE JUST DON'T HAVE

2:00:44THE WAY THAT WE'VE SET THIS UP

2:00:46IS WRONG. IT DOESN'T WORK THE

2:00:47WAY THAT WE S IT UP. THERE

2:00:49WAS SOME, DISCUSSION UP HERE

2:00:50ABOUT A CHARTER AMENDMENT.

2:00:52ABOUT YOU KNOW CODIFYING THIS

2:00:54THAT THE, THE COMMUNITY SAFETY

2:00:57COMMISSIONER WOULD HAVE THIS

2:00:59POWER. I THINK I WOULD BE VERY

2:01:00OPEN TO THAT CONVERSATION. BUT

2:01:01AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE

2:01:04A, A, WE HAVE AN OFFICE THAT

2:01:05DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER TO DO THE

2:01:07THING THAT IT SAYS THAT IT'S

2:01:09SUPPOSED TO DO. I SAT DOWN WITH

2:01:12DIRECTOR HARRINGTO TO HEAR YOUR

2:01:15CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. I REALLY

2:01:16APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THEST

2:01:18IS-- THIS TO ME, AND WHAT YOU'VE

2:01:19TOLD ME DIRECTLY WAS THAT YOUR

2:01:21PRIMARY CONCERN WAS HAVING A

2:01:23VENUE TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC

2:01:25SAFETY WHERE ALL OF THE

2:01:27DEPARTMENTS ARE INVOLVED.I

2:01:30DON'T READ THIS AS SAN

2:01:33ELIMINATION OF -- AN ELIMINATION

2:01:33OF THAT VENUE.

2:01:34IEAD THIS AS THE MAYOR OR HIS

2:01:36DESIGNEE TO CREATE THAT TABLE

2:01:38AND HE THAT VENUE WHERE THIS

2:01:40IS HAPPENING. AND THAT THAT

2:01:42WOULD HAPPEN UER THE PERSON

2:01:44WHO ACTUALLY HAS THE AUTHORITY

2:01:48OVER EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS

2:01:49AS OPPOSED TO UNDER SOMEBODY WHO

2:01:50KIND OF HAS THE AUTHORITY OVER

2:01:51THE DEPARTMENTS. I'D LIKE THAT,

2:01:54I'D LIKE THE PERSON CONVENG

2:01:56THIS TABLE TO BE THE PERSON WHO

2:01:58CAN SAY YOU'REIRED. YOUOT

2:02:00TO DO WHAT YOU'RE GOING -- WHAT

2:02:02I'M TELLING YOU TO DO OR YOU'RE

2:02:03FIRED. THAT IS NOT THE CE

2:02:04RIGHT N. THE PERSON WHO

2:02:06CONVENES THIS TABLE DOES NOT

2:02:07HAVE THAT POWER OVER ALL OF THE

2:02:10PEOPLE AT THE TABLE. AND I

2:02:12THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WE

2:02:13REALLY NEED THAT. STEPPING

2:02:18ASIDE FROM THAT A LITTLE BIT,

2:02:20COUNCILMEMBER WHITING, YOU

2:02:22MENTIONED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL,

2:02:23AND NY POLICING PROJECT REACHING

2:02:24OUT. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF

2:02:27THAT.

2:02:28THEY HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO ME.

2:02:29I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO SEE THAT.

2:02:33AND THEN TWO MORE THINGS.

2:02:35FIRSTLY, I ALSO HAVE A, A

2:02:41VISCERAL NEGATIVE FEELING ABOUT

2:02:43HOW MUCH THE COMMISSIONER MAKES.

2:02:45JUST SO DEEPLY IN MY CORE. I

2:02:48BELIEVE HE MAKES AROUND, AND

2:02:49IT'S NOT ABOUT HIM THE

2:02:50INDIVIDUAL, IT IS ABOUT THE

2:02:52OFFICE. HE MAKES ROUGHLY DOUBLE

2:02:55WHAT THE MAYOR MAKES,

2:02:59$375,000 IN TOTAL COMPENSATN

2:03:00FROM THE CITY, THAT'S AN

2:03:02EGREGIOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY. FOR

2:03:05WHAT? TO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY

2:03:06TO DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO? IT'S

2:03:11JUST, IT'S, IT'S BAFFLING AND SO

2:03:14AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, AS WE'RE

2:03:15LOOKING AT THIS, RESTRUCTURING,

2:03:17AS WE'RE LOOKING AT BUDGET,

2:03:18WHICH I KNOW WE'RE NOT TALKING

2:03:20ABOUT RIGHT NOW, BUT ANY SORT

2:03:22OF, EVEN IF YOU JUST SHIFTED

2:03:25PEOPLE AROUND, SOMEBODY ELSE WHO

2:03:26DOESN'T HAVE THEITLE

2:03:27COMMISSIONER ATTACHED TO HIM IS

2:03:28NOT GOING TO BE MAKING S SUCH

2:03:33AN EGREGIOUS AMOUN OF MONEY AT

2:03:34A TIME WHEN PROPERTY TAXES

2:03:36PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING UP.

2:03:38YOU MENTIONED IN WARD 4 AROUND

2:03:4020%. IT'S SIMILAR IN WARD 8. I

2:03:41KNOW WARD 1THESE ARE SOME OF

2:03:43THE HARDEST HIT IN TERMS OFVALUN

2:03:48PROPERTY TAXES ON TOP, IT'S

2:03:49REALLY, REALLY HARD. PEOPLE ARE

2:03:52REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS.

2:03:53AND THEN I'LL JUST ENDOON SAYING

2:03:56EARLIER THIS SUMMER THERE WAS A

2:03:58PROPOSAL BROUGHT FORWARD BY

2:04:02COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY TO A

2:04:03RESOLUTION ASKING FOR THE MAYOR

2:04:05TO DO A NATIONAL SEARCH FOR A

2:04:09NEW COMMISSIONER AFTER WE HAD

2:04:11DECLINED TO, TO APPOINT THE

2:04:14CURRENT COMMISSIONER TO A

2:04:16PERMANENT RE. AND MY

2:04:18COLLEAGUES SEATED TO MY LEFT

2:04:19ASKED ME PLEASE DON'T DO THIS

2:04:21BECAUSE WE SHOULD GET RID OF THE

2:04:22OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY IN

2:04:24ITS ENTETY. AND SO I'M, I'M

2:04:27STILL WANTING TO DO THAT,

2:04:29COUNCILMEMR RAINVILLE, WE SAT

2:04:31DOWN A COUPLE OF TIMES TO TALK

2:04:32ABOUT GETTING RID OF THIS

2:04:34OFFICE, AND SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE

2:04:36CONFUSED TO, TO HEAR THAT NOT BE

2:04:40REFLECTED HERE. BUT THAT IS WHY

2:04:42I ABAINED FROM THAT, AND

2:04:43PREVENTED THAT FROM MOVING

2:04:45FORWARD. AND SO I VERY MUCH

2:04:49NT TO SEE DEEP CHANGES TO THE

2:04:51OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY FOR

2:04:53ALL THE REASONS THAT I'VE NAMED.

2:04:54I THINK THERE IS ACTUALLY BROAD

2:04:59AGREEMENT AMONGST A SUPER

2:05:01MAJORITY, NOT UNANIMOUS

2:05:03AGREEMENT, THAT THI OFFICE IS

2:05:04NOT WORKING AS IT SHOULDORK.

2:05:06AND NONE OF THIS IS TO SAY THAT

2:05:09WE ARE NOT, THAT WE ARE MOVING

2:05:12AWAY FROM A HOLISTIC PUBLIC

2:05:14SAFETY ECOSYSTEM. BECAUSE WHAT

2:05:16WE'RE SEEING IF WE WANT TO TALK

2:05:18ABOUT THE BUDGET, WHAT WE'RE

2:05:19SEEING NOW IS WE'RE SEEING A

2:05:21REDUCTION IN THAT ECOSYSTEM, AND

2:05:23AN INCREASE IN POLICE. AND SO

2:05:25THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE

2:05:27ACTUALLY FACING WITH. AND SO WE

2:05:29CAN TALK ABOUT HAVING A

2:05:31STRUCTURE, BUT IF YOU HAVE A

2:05:32STRUCTURE WHERE YOU'RE DEFUNDING

2:05:35THE ACTUAL WORK OF NONPOLICE

2:05:39SAFETY, THEN THE STRUCTURE IS

2:05:41NOT GETTING US AWHERE. SO YOU

2:05:44KNOW, I HAVE, I HAVE THINGIN

2:05:46MY SOUL THAT, TT TRIP ME UP

2:05:48ABOUT THIS, PARTICULARLY I MYCOR

2:05:52HARRINGTON, THAT WAS IMPACTFUL

2:05:53FOR ME. AND ALSO FROM MY, FROM

2:05:57MY VERY FIRST MOMENTS ON THIS

2:05:59JO I HAVE NOT GOTTEN WHAT I

2:06:01NEEDED TO GET OUT OF OCS. IHAVF

2:06:06COORDINATION AND HELP THAT I

2:06:07NEEDED OUT OF OCS. IT HAS NOT

2:06:10BROUGHT ANY VALUE FROM MY

2:06:12VANTAGE POINT. THANK YOU.

2:06:15>> THANK YOU. NEXT I WILL

2:06:19RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY

2:06:20FOLLOWED B CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

2:06:22>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. I

2:06:24JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO

2:06:27PROVIDE SOME RESPONSES,

2:06:28SPECIFICALLY T SOME POINTS

2:06:29BROUGHT UP BY COUNCILMEMBER

2:06:31VETAW IN TERMS OF HELPING

2:06:33REGROUND THE FACT THAT THIS

2:06:35ORDINANCE DOESN'T JUST INCLUDE

2:06:36THE ELIMINATION PROPOSAL OF THE

2:06:38OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY, BUT

2:06:41ACTUALLY MEETS THE MAYOR HALFWAY

2:06:43IN TERMS OF TAKING SERIOUS HIS

2:06:46PROPOSALS AROUND REEVALUATING

2:06:48OTHER DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS

2:06:49NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY RELATIONS

2:06:51DEPARTMENT, THE RACE, EQUITY,

2:06:52INCLUSION BELONGING DEPARTMENT,

2:06:53AND THE OFFICE OF PERFORMANCE

2:06:56MANAGEMENT AND INNOVATION. AND

2:06:57THE MAYOR'S OWN PROPOSAL, HE

2:07:00WANTED TO CONSOLIDATE NCR AND

2:07:03COMMUNICATIONS AND ALSO

2:07:06CONSOLIDATE REIB WITH HUMAN

2:07:08RESOURCES. AND ALSO CONSOLIDATE

2:07:10PMI, THE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT

2:07:12INNOVATION DEPARTMENT, INTO

2:07:15EXISTING OPS OR THE OFFICE OF

2:07:17PUBLIC SERVICE SERVICES. SO OUR

2:07:21PROPOSAL ACTUALLY TOOK THAT INTO

2:07:22ACCOUNT AND HAD CONVERSATIONS

2:07:23WITH A NUMBER OF OUR COLLEAGUES

2:07:25ABOUT ONE, NOT JUST OUTRIGHT

2:07:28ELIMINATING THE RACE EQUITY

2:07:30INCLUSION AND BELONGING, BUTFEES

2:07:34WHICH IS SO INTERNAL FOCUSED AND

2:07:36WE HAD ROBUST CONVERSATIONS

2:07:38ABOUT WANTING TO SEE REIB RETURN

2:07:40TO ITS ORIGINAL TENT, WHAT IT

2:07:43ALSO DID EXTERNAL WORK OF

2:07:44BRINGING THAT INTO THE

2:07:46NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY RELATIONS

2:07:48DEPARTMENT AND INTEGRATING THAT

2:07:49WORK THERE. BUT WITH THAT

2:07:52CONSOLIDATION PROPOSAL JUST

2:07:53SHIFTING ORUBSTITUTING HUMAN

2:07:55RESOURCES WITH NCR, SIMILARLY,

2:07:57THE MAYOR DID EIMATE HIS OWN

2:07:59PROPOSAL THAT THAT COULD HAVE UP

2:08:02TO $480,00IN SAVINGS. BY US

2:08:06ALSO LOOKING A RECONFIGURING

2:08:08PMI, WHICH BY THE MAYOR'S OWN

2:08:10ACCOUNT, COULD HAVE UP TO

2:08:12$300,000 IN SAVINGS, WE ALSO

2:08:15SAID THESE ARE THINGS THAT

2:08:16DEPARTMENTS SHOULD ALREADY BE

2:08:17DOING. AND ALSO WE HAVE NOT

2:08:19SEEN THE OFFICE OF PERFORMANCE

2:08:22MANAGEMENT INNOVATION

2:08:23CONSISTENTLYELIVER PERFORMANCE

2:08:24BASED OUTCOMES AND HOW WE

2:08:26EVALUATE THE EFFICACY AND THE

2:08:28EFFEIVENESS OF DEPARTMENTS,

2:08:28ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S COME TO OUR

2:08:30BUDGETING PROCESS. SO WE FELT

2:08:32PRETTY CLEARLY LIKE THIS IS

2:08:33SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SHIFT

2:08:36INTO OTHER ORGANIZATIONAL

2:08:38STRUCTURES THAT EXIST RIGHT NOW

2:08:39AND DOESN'T NEED A STANDLONE

2:08:41DIVISION. OR DEPARTMENT. SO I

2:08:43WANT TO NAME WE DID TAKE INTO

2:08:45ACCOUNT THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL

2:08:47WHEN CRAFTING THIS, AND ALS

2:08:50OF COURSE ALSO NAME THAT -- I

2:08:52WANT TO EXPLICITLY NA THIS.

2:08:55THE ELIMINATION OF OCS IS NOT

2:08:56JUST A BUDGETARY MATTER AND THAT

2:08:58IS SOMETHING COUNCILMEMBER

2:08:59PRESIDENT PAYNE HIGHLIGHTED WE

2:09:00WILL DEAL WITH DURING THE BUDGET

2:09:02MARKUP PROCESS. ALSO

2:09:03COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER BROUGHT A

2:09:04RESOLUTION FORWARD JUST

2:09:06YESTERDAY RESPONDING TO THOSE

2:09:07QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. WHICH

2:09:09WERE ALL WORKING ON AND HAVING

2:09:11CONVERSATIONS ON AHEAD OF

2:09:12THURSDAY'S VOTE. BUT IT WAS

2:09:13MORE IMPORTANTLY JUST

2:09:15ACKNOWLEDGING THIS OFFICE HAS

2:09:17FAILED. IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT

2:09:18BUDGETARY. IT HAS FAILED. IN

2:09:22ITS CORE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY DO

2:09:23THE COMPREHSIVE COMPONENT. AS

2:09:26COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON JUST SO

2:09:27ELOQUENTLY NAMED, IN THE 2027

2:09:31BUDGET, THERE IS A PROPOSITION

2:09:32RIGHT NOW FROM THE MAYOR TO

2:09:34INCREASE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S

2:09:35BUDGET BY OVER 20% WHILE MAKING

2:09:38SIGNIFICANT CUTS TO FUND THAT

2:09:40INCREASE FROM THE NGHBORHOOD

2:09:41SAFETY DEPARTMENT THAT IS

2:09:42CHARGED TO DO OUR ALTERNATIVE

2:09:45RESPONSES. SO WE ARE SEEING

2:09:49CONSTANTLY THE PUTTING OF MPD ON

2:09:51THE PEDESTAL AND BEING WILLING

2:09:53BY THI OFFICE AND

2:09:54ADMINISTRATION TO SACRIFICE

2:09:56OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE

2:09:57CRITICAL TO CARRYIN THIS WORK

2:09:59FORWARD OF COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY

2:10:02ALTEATIVES, SACRIFICING THEM

2:10:02IN THAT PATHWAY. SO AGAIN, IT

2:10:05HAS FAILE IT HAS FAILED TO

2:10:07HELP US GET INTO COMPLIANCE OUT

2:10:09OF THE SETTLEM AGREEMENT, AND

2:10:10IT'S OKAY. WE'RE ACTUALLY ARE

2:10:12GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL TENT

2:10:17AND HONORING THE EXISTING

2:10:18LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER THAT THE

2:10:21MAYOR IS THE BOSS ON THIS. AND

2:10:22THAT THE DEPARTMENT'S REPORTING

2:10:24TO HIM NOW UNDER NEIGHBORHOOD

2:10:27SAFETY DEPARTMENTS, OEM, 911,

2:10:30FIRE, THEY ALL WILL HAVE TO

2:10:32REPORT TO HIM OR HES DESIGNEE,

2:10:34AND AGAIN, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT

2:10:36AT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WILL BE

2:10:37ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO PULL

2:10:39TOGETHER THAT COORDINATION, THAT

2:10:42DOESN'T REQUIRE THE EXISTENCE OF

2:10:43THE OFFICE THAT HAS FAILED TO

2:10:45DELIVER MEASURABLE OUTCOMES FOR

2:10:47OUR RESIDENTS IN KEEPING THEM

2:10:48SAFE FOR OVER FOUR YEARS. SO I

2:10:49AT LEAST JUST WANTED TO

2:10:52HIGHLIGHT THAT PCE, AND REALLY

2:10:54GROUND IT'S NOT ABOUT BUDGET

2:10:56SAVINGS. IT'S SO MUCH MORE THAN

2:11:00THAT.

2:11:00>> THANK YOU. NEXT I'LL

2:11:03RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER WHITING.

2:11:06>> THANKOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. I

2:11:07WILL BE FAIRLY BRIEF HERE.

2:11:10COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON THE

2:11:13LETTERS FROM THE A AND NYU

2:11:16POLICING PROJECT AND OTHERS ARE

2:11:17LISTED IN OUR PUBLIC COMMENT

2:11:19WHERE THEY SUBMITTED. PERFECT.

2:11:22I WILL READUST FROM SOME OF

2:11:24THOSE AS WE KIND OF END HERE AND

2:11:27SO, RIGHT WE RECEIVED A LETTER

2:11:28FROM THE MINNESOTA ATTORNEY

2:11:30GENERAL KE KEITH ELLISON, JUST

2:11:34A PORTION OF THE LETTER.

2:11:35WHATSO WHATEVER THE

2:11:38SOLUTION, MINNEAPOLIS CANNOT

2:11:39RETURN TO A STATUS QUO. I'M

2:11:40ITING TO YOU FOR THE CITY

2:11:41COUNCIL TO NOT ABANDON THE

2:11:44EXPANSION OF THE -- WHETHER YOU

2:11:46OPT TO MAINTAIN THE OFFICE OF

2:11:49COMMITY SERVICE, MODIFY IT, OR

2:11:49CREATE SOMETHING NEW, I ASK YOU

2:11:51TO CENTER EFFECTIVENESS,

2:11:54ACCOUNTABILITY, AND LIBERTY FOR

2:11:54ALL THE RESIDENTS OF THE GREAT

2:11:55CITY OF MINNEAPIS. IF THIS

2:11:58WERE A PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF US

2:11:59TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW, TO

2:12:02REIMAGINE WHAT THE OFFICE OF

2:12:03COMMUNITY SAFETY COULD LOOK

2:12:03LIKE, IF IT WAS TO MODIFY IT, IF

2:12:05IT WAS TO DOTHERS, I THINK

2:12:06THERE IS A VALID CONVERSATION TO

2:12:10BE HAD. THIS WHAT WE HAVE IN

2:12:11FRONT OF US, ELIMINATES THE

2:12:14OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY.

2:12:15THAT IS WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US

2:12:18TODAY. WE HAVE AIN LETTERS

2:12:19TO, TO SIMILAR EFFECT FROM THE

2:12:23HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF, SHERIFF

2:12:25WHITT, AGAIN, THE NYU POLICING

2:12:27PROJT, WHICH IS THE GROUP THAT

2:12:29HAS DONE OUR GS A ASSET

2:12:33ANALYSIS FOR OUR POLICING

2:12:36ALTERNATIVES. THE SOUNDS LIKE

2:12:37THERE IS A, A LETTER COMING IN

2:12:39FROM THE MAIN DIRECTOR DR.--

2:12:44SORRY IF I PRONOUNCE THAT WRONG,

2:12:47DOCTOR, FROM THE MAIN DRAFTER OF

2:12:49THE SAFE AND THRIVING

2:12:50COMMUNITIES REPORT, BY THURSDAY,

2:12:51AND THEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH

2:12:55ELEFA. AND SO RIGHT I DO NOT

2:12:57BELIEVE THAT THE, AND IF I SPOKE

2:12:58TO THE OTHER, TO THE CONTRARY,

2:13:01THAT THIS WORK WILL STOP.

2:13:03RIGHT, I THINK THIS WORK STILL

2:13:04EXISTS, WE HAVE FANTASTIC

2:13:07DIRECTORS THAT DO A WONDERFUL

2:13:08JOB MOVING THIS FORWARD. IT

2:13:11WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD AT THE

2:13:12SPEED THAT I THINK IT SHOULD.

2:13:15AND SO IHINK THAT IS IN FRONT

2:13:16OF US TODAY DO WE WANT THIS

2:13:17WORK TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A, A,

2:13:22AN OFFICE THAT DIRECTS,

2:13:27OVERSEES, CONSOLIDATES,

2:13:27CONVENES, WORK AROUND PUBLIC

2:13:29SAFETY ALTERNATIVES IN OUR

2:13:30PUBLIC SAFETY ECOSYSTEM? O DO

2:13:31WE WANT TO ELIMINATE IT? AND I

2:13:33THINK THAT'S THEHOICE THAT WE

2:13:35HAVE IN FRONT OF US AND THOSE

2:13:36ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO

2:13:39ACCEPT. I AM SOMEONE THAT I

2:13:40THINK DOES NOT WANT TO ACCEPT

2:13:41THE ELIMINATION OF A BODY, OF AN

2:13:45OFFICE THAT'S SOLE CALL IS TO

2:13:48MOVE THIS WORK FORWARD, SO THANK

2:13:55-- THANK YOU SO MUCH.

2:13:56>> THANK YOU.NEXT I WILL

2:13:57RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER

2:13:58WONSLEY.

2:13:58>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI. I

2:13:59JUST ALSO GOT ADVICE FROM OUR

2:14:01CITY CLERK THAT I WOULD NEED TO

2:14:04ACTUALLY MOVE THE AMENDMENT TIED

2:14:06TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY

2:14:09DEPARTMENT NOW. THERE WAS A BIT

2:14:11OF A NOT APPROPRIATE PROCEDURAL

2:14:15MANEUVER WHEN I DID IT DURING

2:14:16THE PRESENTATION, SO ONCE AGAIN,

2:14:17I WANTED TO MOVE THAT AMENDMENT

2:14:18AND ESSENTIALLY THE ORDINANCE AS

2:14:23AMENDED FOR APPROVAL AND ASK FOR

2:14:25A SECOND.

2:14:26>> THANK YOU.

2:14:27>> DID I DO THAT RIGHT? OKAY,

2:14:28THANK YOU.

2:14:29>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYIN

2:14:32THAT, COUNCILMEMBER. I, I HAVE

2:14:39MYSELF IN QUEUE, AND FIRST I

2:14:42WANT TO REALLY APPRECIATE

2:14:45MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR SUCH

2:14:48ROBUST DISCUSSION HERE TODAY.

2:14:51YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME THINGS

2:14:53THAT STAND OUT TO ME IN THIS

2:14:56DISCUSSION IN THE PUBLI

2:14:59HEARING, AND YEAH, THE

2:15:01CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD THE

2:15:02OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ABOUT THIS

2:15:06NEW PROPOSED STRUCTURE, THE

2:15:08ELIMINATION OF THE OFFICE OF

2:15:09COMMUNITY SAFETY, AND IN THE

2:15:12FEEDBACK THAT I HEAR, BOTH, BOTH

2:15:15STATED PUBLICLY AND DISCUSSED I

2:15:18PRIVATE, IT'S FASCINATING TO ME

2:15:20THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE,

2:15:26WHO ARE OPPOSING THIS SHIFT IN

2:15:28GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE, THIS

2:15:29PROPPROSED ORDINANCE, WHO

2:15:31IN PRIVATE WILL TALK ABOUT THE

2:15:34FAILURES OF THIS OFFICE OF

2:15:35COMMUNITY SAFETY, IN PRIVATE

2:15:36WILL SAY THINGS LIKE YEAH, I

2:15:38DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT OFFICE

2:15:40REALLY DOES, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW

2:15:41WHAT THE COMMISSIONER REALLY

2:15:42DOES, DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT

2:15:44THEY, THEY PRODUCE ALL DAY.

2:15:47THIS HAPNS ALL THE TIME. I'LL

2:15:48SAY SOMETHING LIKE, 75% OF THE

2:15:55PEOPLE OPPOSING THIS ORDINANCE

2:15:58PRIVATELY WILL ADMIT TO THE

2:16:00FAILURES OF THIS OFFICE. SO

2:16:03WE'RE SPENDING $2 MILLION ON

2:16:04WHATVERY YR. I THINK, I

2:16:10THINK FOR THE, I THINK SOMETHING

2:16:12THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY IS

2:16:13COMPELLING TO ME IS THE IMPACT

2:16:16ON THE SMALLER DEPARTMENTS

2:16:17WIIN THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

2:16:20SAFETY. 911, THE EMERGENCY

2:16:20MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, THE

2:16:22NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT.

2:16:24FOR ALL THREE OF THESE

2:16:29DEPARTMENTS, THIS ORDINANCE IS

2:16:32REMOVING A LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY

2:16:34BETWEETHEM AND THE MAYOR.

2:16:37THESE OFFICES ARE ACTUALLY BEING

2:16:39ELEVATED TO REPORT DIRECTLY TO

2:16:41THE MAYOR AS EQUAL TO THE, TO

2:16:45THE WAY THE COO REPORTS TO THE

2:16:48MAYOR. SO IF THE CONCERN IS

2:16:52PRESERVING THE ASPECTS OF

2:16:53COMMUNITY SAFETY THAT OFTEN HAVE

2:16:55BEEN OVERLOOKED, WE'RE ACTUALLY

2:16:58ELEVATING THEIR LEVEL OF

2:16:59IMPORTANCE IN OUR STRUCTURE.

2:17:03THAT TO ME IS, IS COMPELLING,

2:17:06AND SO I AM NOT SEEING, SEEING

2:17:08NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL GIVE

2:17:10COLLEAGUES AN OPPORTUNITY TO

2:17:11JUMP INTO QUEUE QUICK IF ANYONE

2:17:13WOULD LIKE TO. I'M NOT SEEING

2:17:17ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. SO I

2:17:21WI, THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US

2:17:25IS TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE AS

2:17:27AMENDED AND SEND IT TO

2:17:29THURSDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING FOR

2:17:31FINAL DELIBERATION. BEFORE I

2:17:33ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL,

2:17:35I SEE COUNCILMEMBER WARREN IN

2:17:39QUEUE.

2:17:39>>> SO EXPLAIN -- CAN I JUST ASK

2:17:41FOR CLARIFICATION ON HOW THIS --

2:17:43WHAT ARE WE --EAH. HOW DOES

2:17:47THIS -- WHAT A WE VOTING?

2:17:48>> YEP.

2:17:49>> IT'S BEEN AMENDED. IT'S BEEN

2:17:50TWISTED. IT'S BEEN UPSIDE DOWN.

2:17:53LOTS OF THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID.

2:17:56I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHICH WAY

2:17:57WE'RE GOING.

2:17:58>> MM-HMM.

2:17:59>> YEP. THAT'S A GREAT

2:18:01QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER WARREN.

2:18:02>> JUST LITTLE CLARITY, THAT'S

2:18:03ALL.

2:18:03>> YEP. NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. SO

2:18:07THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE

2:18:11IMPLEMENTATION ORDINANCE THAT IS

2:18:13ELIMINATING THE OFFICE OF

2:18:14COMMUNITY SAFETY, ELIMINATING

2:18:15THE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT AND

2:18:17INNOVATION DEPARTMENT,

2:18:19ELIMINATING THE RACIAL EQUITY

2:18:20INCLUSION AND BELONGING

2:18:22DEPARTMENT, HAS BEEN AMENDED

2:18:24USING THE SHEET OF PAPER WITH A

2:18:26YELLOW THAT IS ON YOUR DESK, SO

2:18:29WHEN THE COUNCILMEMBER MOVED AS

2:18:30AMENDED, IT'S ACCOUNTING FOR THE

2:18:33YELLOW.

2:18:34>> FOR THIS?

2:18:35>> YEP, SO ALL OF THAT TOGETHER,

2:18:37WE'RE MOVING FOR RECOMMENDATIO

2:18:38TO THURSDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING.

2:18:40WHERE WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY

2:18:41TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION ABOUT

2:18:45THIS ORDINANCE.

2:18:46>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE

2:18:48CLARIFICATION, APPRECIATE YOU.

2:18:50>> ABSOLUTELY.

2:18:51>> WITH THAT, I WILL ASK THE

2:18:54CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL.

2:18:59>> COUNCILMEMBER PAY.

2:19:01>> AYE.

2:19:01>> WONSLEY.

2:19:02>> AYE.

2:19:03>> RAINVILLE.

2:19:05>> VETAW.

2:19:06>> AYE.

2:19:06>> WARREN.

2:19:08>> AYE.

2:19:10>> AYE.N.

2:19:11>> SHAFFER.

2:19:13>> ABSTAIN.

2:19:15>> STEVENS.

2:19:16>> AYE.

2:19:17>> CHAVEZ.

2:19:19>> AYE.

2:19:19>> WHITING.

2:19:21>> NO.

2:19:21>> PALMISANO.

2:19:22>> NO.

2:19:22>> VICE CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

2:19:25>> AYE.

2:19:25>> A CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

2:19:27>> AYE.

2:19:27>> THERE ARE NINE AYES, THREE

2:19:32NAYS AND ONE ABSTENTION.

2:19:33>> THAT MOTION CARRIES AND THIS

2:19:34ITEM HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO

2:19:36THURSDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING FOR A

2:19:40FINAL APPROVAL. WITH THAT,

2:19:43COLLEAGUES, I'M SEEING NO

2:19:45FURTHER BEFORE -- FURTHER

2:19:46BUSINESS BEFORE US, AND WITH NO

2:19:48OBJECTION, I DECLARE THIS

2:19:50MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU

2:19:51EVERYONE.

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