2026-10-20 - Business, Housing & Zoning Committee

00:21[ GAVEL ]

00:21>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

00:22WELCOME TO THE REGULAR BUSINESS,

00:26HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE

00:27FOR OCTOBER 20, 2026. MY NAME IS

00:29JAMAL OSMAN AND I'M THE CHAIR OF

00:31THIS COMMITTEE. I WILL CALL THIS

00:33MEETING IN ORDER. WE'LL B USING

00:36SPEAKER MANAGEMENT. COLLEAGUES,

00:37PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU SIGN UP. AT

00:39THIS TIME, I'LL ASK CLERK TO

00:40CALL THE ROLL SO WE CAN VERIFY A

00:42QUORUM.

00:45>> COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE.

00:47>> PRESENT. >> WARREN.

00:49>> PRESENT. >> SHAFFER.

00:50>> PRESEN

00:52>> CHAVEZ.

00:52>> PRESENT.

00:53>> CHUGHTAI IS ABNT. VICE

00:55CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

00:55>> PRESENT.

00:56>> AND CHAIR OSMAN.

00:58>> PRESENT.

00:59>> THERE'S SIX MEMBERS PRESENT.

01:00>> LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE

01:02HAVE A QUORUM. OUR AGENDA IS

01:04FRONT OF US. WE WILL BEGIN WITH

01:06THE CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT

01:08AGENDA IS ITEM FIVE THROUGH 12.

01:17ITEM 5 APPROS LIQUOR 7 LIQUOR

01:20LICENSE. ITEM 7 APPROVES SEVEN

01:24GAMBLING LICENSE. 8 APPROVES 15

01:33AUTHORIZES AGREEMENT. 10 LELG

01:35SEE GRANT FOR MINNEAPOLIS

01:37SETTLEMENT HOUSING PROJECT. 11

01:44APPROVES DECERTIFICATION OF TIF

01:46DISTRICT. AND 12 SETTING A

01:48PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 5,

01:522026, TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE

01:56LEASING. ANY MOTION OR

01:58DISCUSSION ON THIS? SEEING NO,

02:00I'LL MOVE ALL ITEMS FOR

02:02APPROVAL, AND SET ITEM 12 FOR A

02:04PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 5TH.

02:06ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

02:08>> AYE.

02:09>> AND THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

02:10THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION

02:12CARRIES. NOW, I WILL BE MOVING

02:16TO OUR PUBLIC TESTIMONY PORTION

02:17OF THE AGENDA. ITEM 1 THROUGH 4.

02:21FOR EVERYONE WATCHING, THOSE WHO

02:24MIGHT PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC

02:25HEARING, LET ME OER THIS

02:26NOTICE. THIS HEARING ARE BEING

02:28RECORDED AND BROADCASTED BOTH

02:30RECORDING AND BROADCAST ARE

02:32CLASSIFIED AS A PUBLIC DATA

02:34UNDER MINNESOTA GOVERNMENT DATA

02:35PRACTICE. BY ATTENDING AND

02:39PARTICIPATING IN THIS

02:41PROCEEDING, YOUR IMAGE AND ANY

02:42TESTIMONY OR INFORMATION THAT

02:43YOU PROVIDE WILL BE SUBJECT TO

02:45DISCLOSURE UNDER THE LAW. THAT

02:48INCLUDES BUT NOT LIMITED TO YOUR

02:50ATTENDANCE, YOUR NAME AND OTHER

02:51PERSONAL DETAILS. WITH THAT, WE

03:03WILL -- WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY

03:07COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY.

03:09>> CHUGHTAI.

03:09>> I'M SORRY. OH MY GOD, I MADER

03:15CHUGHTAI, WELCOME. APOLOGIES.

03:20OUR FIRST PLIC HEARING IS ON

03:24SALE TAP ROOM AND OFF SALE

03:29GROWLERS LICENSEOR MIXED

03:31CULTURE BREWERY. I WILL WELCOME

03:32MAX CERVANTES TO GIVE US THIS

03:36PRESENTATION.

03:36>> THANK YOU. I AM DISTRICT

03:38SUPERVISOR FOR LICENSES AND

03:39CONSUMER SERVICES. I'M

03:41PRESENTING AN APPLICATION FROM

03:43MIXED CULTURE LLC DOING BUSINESS

03:45AS MIXED CULTURE BREWERY LOCATED

03:48AT 4461 MINNEHAHA AVENUE LOCATED

03:49IN WARD 12. THE APPLICANT IS

03:53REQUESTING AN ON SALE TAP ROOM

03:56LIMITED ENTERTAINMENT SUNDAY

03:56SALES LICENSE AS WELL AS AN OFF

04:01APPROVED, THEY INTEND TO HAVE

04:02THEIR BREWED BEER AVAILAB TO

04:05ENJOY ON SITE AND PATCH IN

04:07GROWLERS AND CANS TO TAKE AWAY.

04:10THEY'LL ALSO HAVE LIMITED FOOD

04:13AND COFFEE MENU. BUILDING

04:16LOTED AT 4461 MINNEHAHA

04:20AVENUE. SEATED F 50 AS WELL AS

04:22THE BREWING AREA. THE EXTERIOR

04:24WILL HAVE SEATING FOR 40 ON A

04:26PRIVATE PATIO. THE PROPOSED

04:29HOURS OF OPERATION ARE MONDAY

04:313 P.M. TO 9 P.M. TUESDAY THROUGH

04:33THURSDAY, 8 A.M. T 9 P.M.

04:35FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, 8 A.M. TO

04:3710 P.M. AND SUNDAY, A.M. TO

04:388 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES

04:42WEREENT TO RESIDENTS AND

04:43PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 600 FEET

04:45OF THE PREMES. MULTI-UNIT

04:48BUILDINGS WERE POSTED. TICES

04:51WERE ALSO SENT TO THE LONGFELLOW

04:54AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY'S

04:55FICE. WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVEN

04:57COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY IN

04:58SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION. SIX

05:00ARE IN SUPPORT. TWO OF THOSE

05:02HAVE HOPES FOR A DOG-FRIENDLY

05:06PATIO. AND TWO HAVE CONCERNS

05:08OUT A BUSINESS CHANGING THEIR

05:08URS TO BE LATER. THEY WERE

05:11WONDERING IF THERE WOULD BE AN

05:12OFFICIAL PROCESS TO D THAT. IF

05:14THEUSINESS WANTED TO AMEND

05:16THEIR HOURS, THEY WOULD NEED TO

05:18APPLY FOR A BUSINESS PLAN CHANGE

05:20WHICH WOULD HAVE TO BE

05:21RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. THEY

05:26CURRENTLY HAVE NO INTENTION OF

05:28ASKING FOR LATER HOURS THE

05:32LICENSES AND CONSUMERS SERVICESF

05:36AN ON SALE TAP ROOM LIMITED

05:38ENTERTAINMENT SUNDAY SALES

05:42LICENSE AS WELL AS OFF SALE

05:46GROWLER. THANK YOU.

05:48>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL

05:51PROCEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC

05:52HEARING TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS

05:54SIGNED UP. I HAVE RICH -- THANK

06:03YOU.

06:04>> SORRY.

06:04>> WELCOME.

06:07>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MBERS OF

06:08THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS CHUSHA

06:12WELCH. I'M A RESIDT OF

06:14NORTHEAST MINNEAPOLIS, AS WELL

06:16AS CO-OWNER ALONG WITH MY

06:20HUSBAND WILLIAM CALVIN WELCH.

06:22AND I'M THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE

06:23OFFICE OF MIXED CULTURE BREWERY

06:28LOCATED AT 4461 MINNEHAHA

06:31AVENUE. UNIVERSITY MINNESOTA

06:35THEATER OF ARTS AND DANCE

06:37DEPARTME. AND THIS PROJECT

06:39REPRESENTS OUR SECOND BREWERY

06:41AND TAP ROOM PROJECT IN THE TWIN

06:45CITIES. APPROXIMATELY 15 ARS

06:47AGO, WE FOUNDED BOOM ISLAND

06:49BREWERY IN MINNEOLIS WHICH NOW

06:52CURRENTLY OPERATES IN

06:54MINNETONKA. MIXED CULTURE

06:56BREWERY WAS ESTABLISHED WITH A

07:01THROUGH HIGH QUALITY CRAFT BEER,

07:03SHARED EXPERIENCES, AND

07:05EXCEPTIONAL HOSPITALITY. ROOTED

07:06IN THE BELIEF THAT CULTURE IS

07:10FUNDAMENTAL TO BOTH BREWING

07:13EXCELLENCE AND NEIGHBORHOOD.

07:15WELCOMING, INCLUSIVE AND

07:19ENGA

07:19ENGAGING ACE. WE ENVISION

07:23MIXED CULTURE BREWERY SERVING AS

07:24A LONG-TERM NEIGHBORHOOD ANCHOR

07:27FOR MINNEHAHA NEIGHBORHOOD AND

07:28SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THANK YOU

07:29FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATIO

07:31>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL

07:32RECOGNIZE THE NT SPEAKER,

07:34KEVIN WELCH. WELCOME.

07:42>> THANKS FORHE TIME. LAST

07:43TIME AROUND WHEN WE DID THE BOOM

07:46ISLAND BREWING COMPANY, I DID

07:49THIS AND I'M ALSO PROBABLY MORE

07:51NERVOUS THAN MY WIFE AT THIS

07:52POINT. BUT THANKS FOR LISTENING.

07:59AND SHE'S THE BEST. WE'RE GOING

08:01TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS

08:04RESPONSIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

08:06ALSO, IT'S GOING TO BE SO

08:08EXCITING TO OPEN UP OUR HUGE

08:10OUTDOOR SPACE TO BE A GATHERING

08:14PLACE FOR THE LONGFELLOW

08:16NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S ALL I

08:16WANTED TO SAY. AND SHE DID ALL

08:21THE WORK. I JUST -- I MAKE THE

08:23BEER. BUT SHE DOES THE WORK. SO

08:27I GOTTA GIVE A BIGHANK YOU SO

08:29HER. SO THAT WAS IT. THANKS FOR

08:32YOUR TIME,LSO.

08:33>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE THERE

08:34ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK

08:35ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'LL

08:37CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND

08:40RECOGNIZE VICE-CHAIR CHOWDHUR

08:43>> YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR OSMAN.

08:45AND THK YOU, IT WAS CHUSHA AND

08:51KEVIN, ONE, FOR INVESTING IN THE

08:53NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS LOCATION.

08:55I ACTUALLY LIVED VERY CLOSE TO

08:57WHERE YOU ARE FOR A LONG TIME.

09:00AND I HAVE LONG TALKED ABOUT THE

09:03NEED FOR ACTIVATION ON MINNEHAHA

09:07AVENUE, ESPECIALLY THAT SPACE.

09:08AND I WAS REALLY PROUD AFTER THE

09:09BIKE SHOP CLOSED, TO SEE THAT

09:12THE ACTIVATION WAS THERE SO SOON

09:14AFTER. MY OFFICE, BEN IN

09:16PARTICULAR, HAS BEEN IN TOUCH

09:18WITH YOU ALL AND HE'S REPORTED

09:19BACK ON CONVERSATIONS. IT'S OUR

09:21PLAN TO CONNECT WITH YOU MORE

09:22DEEPLY TO MAKE SURE THAT W CAN

09:24BUILD A LONGER TERM RELATIONSHIP

09:26TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESS

09:28IS SUCCESSFUL. BUT YOU CAN

09:29CREATE THE COMMUNITY SPACE THAT

09:30YOU NEED. SO REALLY, REALLY

09:34GREAT THAT THIS HAS COME BEFORE

09:35US IN COMMITTEE. AND I'MERY

09:37HAPPY TO MOVE THIS FOR APPROVAL

09:38SO WE CAN GET THE BREWERY

09:40OPENED.

09:40>> SECOND.

09:45>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

09:46WITH THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

09:47SAY AYE.

09:48>> AYE.

09:49>>ND THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

09:51THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION

09:52CARRIES.

09:56>> CONGRATULATIONS.

09:57>> THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM IS

10:00EXTENDED HOURS OPERATION LICENSE

10:01FOR WHEELHOUSE STUDIO. I'LL

10:03INVITE BETH FROM BUSINESS

10:04LICENSE TO GIVE US THAT

10:06PRESENTATION. WELCOME.

10:07>> THANK YOU, CHAIR OSMAN AND

10:08COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I AM

10:10INSPECTOR BETH DOMINGUEZ WITH

10:14THE LICENSES AND CONSUMER

10:16SERVICES. I'M PRESENTING AN

10:19APPLICATION FROM WHEELHOUSE

10:20STUDIO, LLC, DOING BUSINESS AS

10:22WHEELHOUSE STUDIOOCATED AT

10:251121 JACKSON STREET IN WARD 1.

10:27THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN

10:29EXTENDED HOURS --

10:32>> EXCUSE . COUNCIL MEMBER.

10:33>> I JUST WANT A POINT OF ORDER

10:35IF YOU CAN GET CLOSER TO THE MIC

10:36BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

10:38>> YES. IS THAT BETTER? OKAY.

10:42THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN

10:44EXTENDED HOURS LICENSE. IF

10:46APPROVED, THEY INTEND TO OFFER

10:48EXTENDED HOURS AESS TO PLAY

10:51AND KILNS FOR POTTERY AND ART

10:54CREATION. HOURS ARE MONDAY

10:57THROUGH FRIDAY 10 A.M. TO --

11:02WHEELHOUSE STUDIO IS A POTTERY

11:04STUDIO IN THE WATERBURY BUILDING

11:08IN NORTHEAST MINNEAPOLIS.

11:10EQUIPPED WITH 20 POTTERY WHEELS

11:12AND KILNS. THE WHEELHOUSE

11:14OPERATIONS ARE AS I JUST SAID,

11:1624-HOUR ACCESS TO THE STUDIO

11:21MONITORED A SECURE SYSTEM WILL

11:23ALLOW FOR MEMBERS TO USE CLAY

11:25AND KILNS FOR ART CREATING ONLY

11:28AND SUPPORT A CRAFT THAT BY

11:31NATURE DOESN'T RUN ON NORMAL

11:33HOURS. ON OCTOBER H, '2

11:45HEARING NOTICES WERE POSTED.

11:47SENT TO NEIGHBORHOOD

11:48ASSOCIATIONS AND COUNCIL MEMBER

11:49PAYNE. WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO

11:50COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY. NO

11:54SIGNIFICANT ISSUES CONCERNING

11:54THE BUSINESS AND ISSUANCE OF

11:57THIS LICEE. THE LICENSES AND

12:01CONSUMER SERVICES DIVISION

12:01RECOMMDS APPROVAL OF AN

12:04EXTENDED HOURS LICENSE. THIS

12:06CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. AT

12:06THIS TIME, I WILL STAND FOR ANY

12:08QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

12:09>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT

12:11PRESENTATION. I WILL OPEN THE

12:12PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE IF ANYONE

12:14WILL LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

12:19SEEING NONE, I WILL -- OH, I'M

12:21SOY. COME ON IN.

12:23PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

12:24>> HI. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO

12:26SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE

12:27DAY AND YOUR TIME. I'M

12:29MICHELLE GARENSON. I'M THE SOLE

12:33OWNER OF WHEELHOUSE STUDIOS. I

12:35JUST WANT TO SAY I'M REALLY

12:35EXCITED ABOUT IS. AND THANK

12:36YOU.

12:39>> PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I

12:43WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING

12:45AND MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE

12:46THIS ITEM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

12:47SAY AYE.

12:48>> E.

12:49>> AND THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

12:51THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION

12:54CARRIES. OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING

12:55IS A PART OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE

13:00ORDINANCE PACKAGE. ESPECIALLY

13:01THE LICENSE ANDUSINESS

13:02REGULATIONS. HOWEVER, I WILL

13:03NOTE THAT THIS ITEM IS RELATED

13:06TO ITEM 15 UNDER YOUR DISCUSSION

13:08HEADER. WHICH IS THE ZONING

13:09ORDINANCE. TS PUBLIC HEARING

13:12WAS ALREADY HELD AT APRIL 16

13:15MEETING FOR THE PLANNING

13:17COMMISSION. OUR ONLY PUBLIC

13:18HEARING TODAY IS THE LICENSE AND

13:20BUSINESS REGULATION. I WILL NOTE

13:25THAT IT'S ALLOWED TESTIFIERS AND

13:29MEMBERS TO SPEAK BOTH ORDINANCE

13:30DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING. WITH

13:33THAT, I WILL ASK AUTHORS TO GIVE

13:36US THE PRESENTATION. WELCOME,

13:37COUNCIL MEMBER.

13:37>> THANK YOU, CHAIR OSMAN. THE

13:39SAFE OUTOR PARKING ORDINANCE

13:42IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD BY

13:45MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER

13:45STEVENSON, COUNCIL MEMBER

13:47CHOWDHURY, AND MAJORITY LEADER

13:50CHUGHTAI, AND VICE CHAIR

13:51CHOWDHURY, ACTUALLY. AND WE

13:52WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE B OF A

13:53BACKGROUND ON THIS ORDINANCE.

13:55THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL

13:56DECLARED UNSHELTERED

13:58HOMELESSNESS A PUBLIC HEALTH

14:00EMERGENCY ON DECEMBER 2023, AND

14:01AS A BODY, WE DIRECTED STAFF TO

14:05PLORE NEW SOLUTIONS. IN

14:07RESPONSE OF THIS POLICY, SAFE

14:09OUTDOOR PARKING ESTABLISHES A

14:16PERMANENT INTERIM USE PERMIT.

14:16THIS POLICY CREATES A LEGAL

14:20REGULATED OPTION FOR PEOPLE

14:21EXPERIENCING UNSHELTERED

14:23HOMELESSNESS TO SAFELY STAY IN

14:25THEIR VEHICLES OVERNIGHT IN

14:27DESIGNATED AND MANAGED LOTS.

14:29THIS APPROACH DRA FROM PROVEN

14:30MODELS IN DULH AND A PREVIOUS

14:32MODEL IN DENVER AS BROADER

14:34STRATEGY TO EXPAND SAFE,

14:36TEMPORARY SHELTER OPTIONS. BASED

14:39ON DATA WE HAVE FROM STAFF, WE

14:42KNOW SAFE OUTDOOR PARKING

14:45STAFF -- STAFF RUNNING SAFE

14:47PARKING PROGRAMSN DULUTH,

14:51DENVER, VANCOUVER, AND TACOMA

14:55EXPLAIN MOST ARE RECENTLY

14:59HOMELESS AND MANY HAVE JOBS OR

15:00SOURCES OF INCOME. MAKES THE

15:02PROGRAM A POTENTIALLY IMPORNT

15:05EARLY INTERVENTION MODEL TO

15:07PREVENT SLIDES INTO

15:09HOMELESSNE. BASED ON REPORTS

15:11FROM OUR STAFF SHOW THAT SAFE

15:12STAY, WHICH IS THE PROGRAMN

15:15VANCOUVER, THAT CLIENTS MAY HAVE

15:16HIGHER SUCCESS RATE ONCE PLACED

15:18IN PERMANENT HOUSING, COMPARED

15:19WITH THOSE IN THE COUNTY'S COOR

15:24CLIENTS HAD -- WHILE JUS OVER

15:3050% OF COUNTY PARTICIPTS WERE

15:31SUCCESSFULLY REHOUSED.

15:37GOAL ONE BEING ELIMINATING

15:40DISPARITIES. IN 2040,

15:42MINNEAPOLIS WILL SEE ALL

15:43COMMUNITIES FULLY THRIVE

15:45REGARDLESS OF RACE, ETHNICITY,

15:48GENDER, COUNTRY OF ORIGIN, OR

15:51ZIP CODE DEEP DISPARITIES IN

15:53WEALTH, HOUSING, SAFETY AND

15:56HEALTH. WE KNOW IT HELPS ADDRESS

15:57POLICY 40 WHEN IT COMES TO

16:00HOMELESSNESS WITH THE GOAL

16:01POLICY OF ELIMINATING

16:04HOMELESSNESS -- STRATEGIES FOR

16:06HOMELESS YOUTH, SINGLES AND

16:08FAMILIES. WE KNOW THAT SAFE

16:09PARKING I A LOCATION WHERE

16:10FOLKS CAN GET ACCESS TO THESE

16:12SERVICES. AND THEN POLICY 85,

16:14ACCESS TO HEALTH, SOCIAL AND

16:18EMERGENCY SERVICE BY EXTENDING

16:19EQUITABLE TO HEALTH,

16:21EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND

16:22EMERGENCY RESPONSE SERVICES. IN

16:25PRACTICE, THIS PROGRAM WILL BE

16:27MANAGED BY A NON-PROFIT OR

16:30RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION OR A

16:31GOVERNMENT ENTITY IN ORDER TO

16:33QUALIFY FOR THIS, YOU NEED TO BE

16:34ONE OF THOSE THREE. IT WILL

16:37ALLOW SAFE MANAGED PARKING LOTS

16:39WHERE PEOPLE CAN SLEEP IN THEIR

16:40CAR OVERNIGHT. AND I HELPS

16:43PEOPLE AVOID TICKETS, TOWING OR

16:46FORCED DISPLACEMENT.AFE

16:46OUTDOOR PARKING IS MEANT TO HELP

16:49PEOPLE STAY SAFE, CONNECT PEOPLE

16:50TO SERVICES, SUPPORT AND

16:52HOUSING. HELP REDUCE STRESS AND

16:54TRAUMA, PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE

16:55TO SLEEPING ON THE STREET, AND

16:57SUPPORT THE CITY'S RACIAL EQUI

16:59PUBLIC HEALTH GOALS. AND WE ALSO

17:02WANTED TO GO THROUGH A TIMELINE

17:04AS THIS POLICY HAS BEEN YEARS IN

17:07THE MAKING HERE ON THE CITY

17:09COUNCIL. SAFE BAY OPENED IN

17:10DULUTH, MINNESOTA. THIS IS A

17:13PROGRAM THAT EXISTS HERE IN

17:14MINNESOTA, BUT IN THE CITY OF

17:16DUTH. AND THAT WAS ON

17:19APRIL 17, 2023. O MAY 14, 2024,

17:23THERE WAS SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES,

17:26LANDSCAPE ANALYSIS STAFF

17:29DIRECTION. ON JULY 23, 2024,

17:31THERE WAS A PAR REPORT, A

17:32RECEIVE AND FILE OF A SAFE

17:34OUTDOOR SPACES PART ONE. AND

17:39AUGUST 28, 2024, WE HELD AN

17:42ENGAGEMENT SESSION MEETING. ALSO

17:50SEPTEMBER 24, 2024, PAR SAFE

17:54OUTDOOR REPORT. NOVEMBER 14,

17:572024, FIRST READING AND REFERRED

18:02TO BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING

18:03MMITTEE. DECEMBER 5TH, TO

18:05DRAFT ORDINANCE. ON OCTOBER 9,

18:102025, ONE PART OF THEWO PARTS

18:14WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY --

18:16COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. ON

18:18FEBRUARY 19TH, 2026, WE

18:22UNANIMOUSLY GAVE DIRECTION.

18:27ON -- ZONING ORDINANCE WAS

18:29APPROVED BY THE PLANNING

18:30COMMISSION. ON AUGUST 10TH,

18:322026, AUTHORS HELD AN ENGAGEMENT

18:34MEETING THAT WAS OPEN TO THE

18:38PUBLIC. ON SEPTEMBER 10, 2026,

18:40MEETING FOR SERVICE PROVIDERS.

18:43ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, WE SUBMITTED

18:44THE RCA ON TO LIMS. AND ON

18:49SEPTEMBER 25TH, WE OFFERED

18:51BRIEFINGS TO ALL CITY COUNCIL

18:53AND OFFERED AN FAQ THAT HAS BEEN

18:56CHANGED. THIS WILL BE GOING TO

18:58THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE SITE

19:02BASIS. WHEN WE VOTED IN THE

19:06BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING

19:07COMMITE TO SET THE PUBLIC

19:07HEARING FOR TODAY. WE'RE HOPING

19:09TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW,

19:11AND WITH THE FINAL VOTE ON

19:13OCTOBER 29TH, AN IMPLEMENTATION

19:15IF IT PASSES, AND SIGNED AND NOT

19:19VETOED WOULD BE JANUARY 1ST,

19:202027. THIS ORDINANCE, AS I SAID

19:22EARLY, IT BREAKS DOWN INTO TWO

19:25COMPONENTS. ONE THAT IS ZONING

19:26THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A

19:27PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE IT WAS

19:30APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE

19:31PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THERE

19:32WAS A PUBLIC HEARING THERE. AND

19:33THEN THE LICENSING AND BUSINESS

19:36REGULATION, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE

19:37DISCUSSINGN THE PUBLIC HEARING

19:39TODAY. THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD

19:43TOGETHER AS A POLICY.

19:46>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER

19:47CHAVEZ. I'LL BE BRIEFLY COVERING

19:50THE ZONING ORDINANCE. THERE IS A

19:52PRESENTATION, AGAIN, IN THE

19:57PLANNING COMMISSION, AND IT

19:58PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. AND THIS

20:00WORK WAS REALLY DIRECTED TO

20:04STAFF AFTER. IN 2023, WE PASSED

20:07A RESOLUTION UNANIMOUSLY

20:10DECLARING HOMELESSNESS A PUBLIC

20:11HEALTH EMERGENCY. A THIS IS

20:14REALLY LOOKING AT COORDINATING

20:15HEALTH, HOUSING AND BUSINESS

20:18LICENSING TO CREATE AN EARLY

20:20INTERVENTION SYSTEM TO ADDRESS

20:22HOMELESSNESS I OUR CITY. AND

20:25ZONING IS ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT

20:27WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE.

20:30AS HIGHLIGHTED, THIS IS VERY

20:33STRONGLY SUPPORTED BY OUR 2040

20:36PLANS, AND THAT WAS REALLY A

20:38TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AMONG

20:40PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS. AND

20:41I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO

20:42HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING

20:43ABOUT ACHIEVING THE GOALS OF

20:46ELIMINATING DISPARITIES,

20:47ELIMINATING HOMELESSNESS THROUGH

20:50SAFE, STABLE HOUSING, AND

20:52CREATING ACCESS TO HEALTH,

20:54SOCIAL AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.

20:58AND I THINK BEFORE I KIND OF

21:01DELVE IN TO THE DEEPER PAR OF

21:03THE ZONING ORDINANCE, I WANT TO

21:06HIGHLIGHT THE WAYS INHICH

21:07ZONING HAS ALSO CREATED OTHER

21:09TOOLS TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS.

21:13THIS IS US CREATING ALTHOUGH

21:14TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX IN THE

21:17LEAGUE OF HAVING ZONING

21:19AVAILABLE FOR EMERGENCY

21:22SHELTERS, SINGLE-ROOM OCCUPANCY,

21:25SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, AND

21:29POTENTIAL, INTENTIONAL

21:31CLUSTERING, COMMUNITY

21:32CLUSTERING. AND SO US CREATING

21:34SAFE PARKING ZONING JUST ADDS TO

21:37THAT CONSOLATION OF THINGS THE

21:39CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS HAS BEEN

21:40BUILDING ONO ACHIEVE THOSE

21:432040 GOALS. SO FIRST AND

21:45REMOST, THIS CREATES AN

21:47INTERIM USE PERMIT. INTERIM USE

21:49PERMITS ARE LIMITED UP TO FIVE

21:52YEARS. AND TYPICALL INTERIM

21:55USE PERMITS LEAD INTO A

21:57CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. BUT DUE

21:59TO THE TIME-LIMITED NATURE OF

22:03SAFE PARKING, WE ARE SAYING THAT

22:05THIS IS AN INTERIM USE PERMIT

22:07ONLY. THIS WILL REQUIRE A PUBLIC

22:10HEARING AT THE PLANNG

22:11COMMISSION. AND INFORM NEARBY

22:17RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES SO THE

22:21RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES SO THEY

22:23CAN SHARE FEEDBACK. AND THEN

22:26THERE WILL ALSO BE THE BUSINESSL

22:30REQUIRE A SEPARATE PUBLIC

22:32HEARING. THEEXT SLIDE. UNDER

22:36OURONING ORDINANCE, THERE ARE

22:38MULTIPLE FINDINGS THAT HAVE TO

22:40BE MADE IN ORDER FOR US TO ISSUE

22:42AN INTERIM USE PERMIT. THE FIRST

22:46FINDING IS THAT OPERATION OF A

22:47SAFE PARKING PROAM WILL NOT BE

22:51DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH,

22:53SAFETY, CFORT OR GENERAL

22:55WELFARE. THE SECOND IS THAT A

22:57SAFE PARKING PROGRAM WILL NOT BE

23:00INJURIOUS TO USE OR ENJOYMENT OF

23:02THE SURRODING AREA, AND WILL

23:04NOT IMPEDE NORMAL AND ORDERLY

23:06DELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT OF

23:07SURROUNDING AREAS. THE THIRD

23:11FINDING IS ADEQUATE UTILITIES

23:14ACCESS, DRAINAGE, NECESSA

23:16FACILITIES OR OTHER MEASURES

23:17THAT WILL BE PROVIDED ON SITE.

23:19AND THE FOURTH FINDING IS

23:25ADEQUATE MEASURES WILL BE TAKEN

23:28ARBY PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND

23:30TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. AMONG

23:32THOSE FINDINGS, THE APPLICATION

23:34HAS TO PROVE THAT THERE WILL BE

23:36A CLEAR END DATE OR AN EVENT

23:39THAT WILL TERMINATE THE INTERIM

23:40USE, AND THAT IS IDENTIFIED WITH

23:42CERTAINTY. SO THAT HAS TO BE

23:44SHOWN TO US BEFORE WE ACTUALLY

23:46ISSUE AN INTERIM USE PERMIT.

23:49SOME OF THE ZONING PROVISIONS

23:53WITHIN THIS LOOK AT MAKING SURE

23:59THAT THERE IS ALREADY EXISTING

24:01LAWFULLY -- LAWFULLY EXISTING

24:03STREET PARKING WHERE THE PROGRAM

24:05CAN TAKE PLACE. SO WE AREN'T

24:06CREATING A PARKING LOT. THERE

24:08HAS TO ALREADY BE A DESIGNATED

24:11SPACE. WE'RE ALSO REQUIRING THAT

24:14THE PRRAM OPERATOR SEND A

24:16MANAGEMENT PLAN. THAT IT'S IN

24:18LINE WITH OUR PARKING

24:20ORDINANCES. THERE'S MORE THAT

24:22WE'LL DISCUSS IN THE BUSINESS

24:23REGULATIONS PARTS OF THIS. BUT

24:25KEY THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP IS

24:28WITH STAFF AS WE CRAFTED THIS

24:30POLICY IS ENSURING THA WE'RE

24:33ADDRESSING SANITATION

24:36FACILITIES, SECURITY, LIKE 24-7

24:39SECURITY. CRIME PREVENTION

24:40THROUGH VIRONMENTAL DESIGN.

24:41AND THIS IS ALLOWED IN ALL

24:43ZONING DISTRICTS. BUT IT BECOMES

24:46VERY NARROWED WHEN YOU SET THE

24:47PARAMETER OF ONE, IT HA TO BE

24:52AN EXISTING OFF-STREET PARKI

24:53AREA ALREADY. AND THE MINIMUM

24:56LOT DIMENSION HAS TO BE 10,00

24:57SQUARE FEET. AND I'LL PASS IT

25:03OFF TO COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI.

25:04>> AND I JUST WANTED TO --

25:06BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI

25:08SPEAKS, I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT

25:09THE HEARING WILL BE IN THE

25:11COUNCIL, NOT THE PLANNING

25:12COMMISSION.

25:15>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR

25:17OSMAN, FOR WELCOMING US TO

25:19PRESENT ON THIS PROPOSED SAFE

25:21OUTDOOR PARKING POLICY TO BUILD

25:22UPON THE ZONING FRAMEWORK VICE

25:27CHAIR CHOWDHURY COMMENTED ON,

25:30I'LL DIG INTO THE FINAL OF THE

25:34PRESENTATION. ALLOWING THE CITY

25:38TO ESTABLISH AND REGULATE SAFE

25:39OUTDOOR PARKING SPACES. THE GOAL

25:41OF THIS FRAMEWORK IS TO CREATE

25:44SAFER, SHORT-TERM OPTIONS FOR

25:46PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING

25:48HOMELESSNESS AND LING IN

25:49VEHICLES. ULTIMATELY, THIS

25:51OFFERS ANOTHER TOOL IN THE

25:53CITY'S TOOLBOX TO ADDRESS

25:56HOMELESSNESS. BY ESTABLISHING A

25:58SAFE, TESTED AND CREATIVE OPTION

26:00IN THIS POLICY, WE HELP TO

26:03REDUCE HARM AND FEAR FOR

26:05UNHOUSED RESIDENTS. OER AN

26:06ALTERNATIVE TO SLEEPING ON THE

26:09STREET. ADDRESS RIAL

26:11INEQUITIES IN HOMELESSNESS.

26:19IMPROVE LIVEABILITY CONCERNS.

26:20WHAT GOES IN TO LICENSING A SAFE

26:22PAING SPACE? I'LL FIRST COVER

26:24THE HIGH LEVELLEMENTS THAT ARE

26:28ADDRESSED THROUGH THE LICENSURE

26:32PROCESS. THINK ABOUT THESE AS

26:35THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA. THAT

26:39LICENS WILL INCLUDE COMPLIANCE

26:43OR THAT ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA

26:44INCLUDES COMPLIANCE WITH THE

26:46ZONING CODE, OPERATION BY A

26:48NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, A

26:50GOVERNMENT AGENCY OR A RELIGIOUS

26:53ORGANIZATION WITH ESTABLISHED

26:55OFF-STREET PARKING PROVIDED. A

26:58MANAGEMENT PLAN AS REQUIRED IN

27:00THE ZONING CODE, ON SITE STAFF

27:03DURING ALL HOURS OF OPERATION

27:05AND REGISTRYF ALL SITE PATRONS

27:07FOR REVIEW AT ALL TIMES. NOW

27:10LET'S DIG INTO FURTHER DETAILS

27:11ABOUT THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS

27:14TO OPERATE A SAFE OUTDOOR

27:15PARKING FACILITY. IN OUR LEAD

27:17UP, STAFF RECOMMENDING THE

27:19ISSUANCE OF A LICENSE, THEY

27:20COULD ENSURE THAT THE FOLLOWING

27:22REQUEMENTS ARE MET. THIS IS

27:24WHERE THE RUBBER REALLY MEETS

27:26THE ROAD. LICENSING REQUIREMENTS

27:28INCLUDE MANAGEMENT, SECURITY,

27:30AND PUBLIC SAFETY PLANS SUBJECT

27:32TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL FROM

27:34LICENSING OFFICIALS AND THE

27:34MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMEN I

27:37KNOW SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS ARE

27:38TOP OF MIND AS THIS POLICY IS

27:40CONSIDERED, AND I WANT YOU TO

27:41KNOW THAT MPD HAS A VERY

27:43IMPORTANT ROLE IN PROVIDING --

27:46IN REVIEWING AND APPROVING

27:48SAFETY PLAING FOR PROPOSED

27:48SITES. ANOTHER REQUIREME IS

27:53ACCESS TO DRINKING WATER AND

27:56PERMANENT ON SITE RESTROOMS,

27:58ACCESS TO HAND HYGIENE PRODUCTS

28:00OR WATER FOR HANDWASHING. ACTIVE

28:04AND ADEQUATE TRASH AND RECYCLING

28:06SERVICES, INCLUDING DAILY DEBRIS

28:09PICK-UP WITHIN 100 FEET OF THE

28:10SITE. YOU MAY WONDER WHAT IS CO

28:15AND THAT LANGUAGE WAS CHOSEN

28:17WITH THE FLEXIBITY TO BE

28:19DETERMINED IN EACH CASE AS PART

28:21OF THE REVIEW BY LICENSING

28:23STAFF. ANOTHER REQUIREMENT IS

28:24ENSURING ALL PATRONS AND

28:26VEHICLES EXIST THE PREMISES

28:28OUTSIDE OF OPERATING HOURS, AND

28:30DEPART TO AT LEAST 1200 FEET

28:31FROM THE SITE. ALSO, A

28:36PREDICTION OF OPEN FIRES,

28:38ALTERNATIVE HEAT SOCES,

28:40AMPLIFIED SOUND, ILLEGAL WEAPONS

28:42AND THE USE OF ALCOHOL AND

28:44NON-PRESCRIBED SUBSTANCES. AND

28:46FINALLY, THE DISTRIBUTION AND

28:48STING OF A PATRON CODE OF

28:49CONDUCT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE

28:51THAT JUST LIKEN DULUTH, THESE

28:58AREN'T 24/7 SITES. EACH LICENSED

29:00SITES HOURS OF OPERATIONS ARE

29:02LIMITED BETWEEN 5:00 IN THE

29:03EVENING TO 8:00 IN THE MORNING.

29:07AND WITHIN THOSE NIGHT-TIME

29:08OPERATING HOURS, ENFORCED QUIET

29:12HOURS ARE BETWEEN 10 P.M. AND

29:147 A.M. AND FINALLY, A LICENSEE

29:16WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE PUBLIC

29:20LIABILITY INSURANCE. AFTER ALL

29:21OF THESE ELEMENTS ARE CAREFULLY

29:24CONSIDERED, REVIEWED, AND

29:25APPROVED BY CITY STAFF, STAFF

29:27THEN BRING A PROPOSED LICENSE TO

29:29THE CITY COUNCIL FOR OUR

29:30CONSIDERATION D APPROVAL. AS I

29:32HOPE YOU SEE THE PROCESS TO

29:35ESTABLISH A SAFE OUTDOOR PARKING

29:37FACILITY AEXTENSIVE, RIGOROUS,

29:40IT'S DELIBERATIVE, AND HAS

29:43OPPORTUNITY TO CARE FOR AN

29:46ESTABLISHMENTS OF A FACILITY

29:47BOTH BY STAFF A THE

29:48POLICYMAKERS. THAT BRINGS US TO

29:50THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION, MR.

29:51CHAIR. AND BORE I WRAP UP, I

29:54WILL NOTE THAT FOR MY COLLEAGUES

29:56THAT CREATIN THIS POLICY HAS

29:57BEEN AN EXTENSIVE AND

29:58COLLABORATIVE PROCESS. AUTHORS

30:00HA WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF

30:01IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE

30:04AND BUSINESS LICENSING TO CRAFT

30:05THIS POLICY. AND STAFF WILL BE

30:07AVAILABLE TO HELP ADDRESS THE

30:08COMMITE'S QUESTIONS ONCE WE

30:10GET INTO DISCUSSION FOLLOWING

30:11THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

30:14SORRY, I DID MISS CPED STAFF AS

30:15WELL. WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR

30:21YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

30:23TH'S ALL, MR. CHAIR.

30:25>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL

30:28MEMBERS, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

30:30WELL-DETAILED PRESENTATION. I

30:31WILL NOW PROCEED TO OPEN THE

30:32PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE A LIST

30:34HERE. IF YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED UP,

30:36PLEASE SEE THE CLERK TO SIGN UP.

30:38AND ALSO, PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL

30:42AND ADDRESS T IUE THAT'S

30:43FRONT OF US. I WILL RECOGNIZE

30:48NUMBER, HOWARD DODSON TO COME

30:52AND SPEAK. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTE

30:56SIR.

30:57>> HOWARD DODSON, WARD 11. ONE

30:58OF THEADDEST DAYS FOR ME IN

31:01MINNEAPOLIS IS WHEN I SAW SEVEN

31:04NO TRESPASSING SIGNS ON A CHURCH

31:07PROPERTY. MATTHEW 25 IS A VERSE

31:10TO GO TO. WHAT YOU DO TO THE

31:13LEAST OF THESE, YOU DO TO ME. AS

31:17PEOPLE OF FAITH AND GOODWILL, WE

31:19ARE TO WELCOME A STRANGER AND TO

31:24PROVIDE SANCTUARY FOR A PUBLIC

31:25HEALTH CRISIS. I WAS A CHAPLAIN

31:28AT REGENTS HOSPITAL. THREE YEARS

31:29AGO I WASN THE BURN UNIT AND I

31:31SAW ALL THESE MISSING FINGERS

31:34AND TOES. I'VE SENT YOU PICTURES

31:37OF MISSING FINGERS AND TOES TT

31:39WE SEE IN OUTREACH. WE'RE

31:43APPROACHING OUR FIFTH WINTER. WE

31:45HAVE ALL THESE CHURCH PARKI

31:48LOTS. EIGHT YEARS AGO IN

31:50COLORADO, MY CHURCH PARKING LOT,

31:54WE HAD PEOPLE OVERNIGHT. AND THE

31:59FIRE DEPARTMENT EVEN BROUGHT CA

32:01THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE FIRE

32:02DEPARTMENT WITH POLICE NEEDS TO

32:03WORK ON TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THE

32:05CARS ARE RUNNINGVERNIGHT THAT

32:07PEOPLE ARE SAFE. IN ONE YEAR IN

32:12THE U.S., 1300 PEOPLE DIE IN OUR

32:16STREETS. DECEMBER 21ST IS AN

32:18ANNUAL REMEMBRANCE. LAST YEAR,

32:20THEY REMEMBERED 115 PEOPLE WHO

32:22DIED IN OUR STREETS. IN ADDITION

32:28TO THIS PROPOSAL, I ASK THAT YOU

32:31REVISIT THAT THERE USED TO BE A

32:34UE AND GREEN LINE COLD WEATHER

32:35EMERGENCY PLAN WHERE PEOPLE

32:37COULD USE PUBLIC TRANSIT HEA IF

32:38THEY DON'T HAVE A CAR TO PARK IN

32:41A CHURCH PARKING LOT. I DON'T

32:45WANT TO SEE ANY MORE MISNG

32:47FINGERS AND TOES. SO THANK YOU,

32:50CHAVEZ AND OTHER COUNCIL

32:51MEMBS, FOR SHOWING COMPASSION

32:54AND COMMENCE TO THIS

32:54HUMANITARIAN CRISIS.

32:59>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT

33:01PERSON IS TYLER ZIMMERMAN.

33:07>> THANK YOU, CHAIR OSMAN AND

33:08MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I'M

33:10A RESIDENT OF WARD 12. AS WE

33:13CONSIDER THE PROPOSAL FOR A

33:14LOCAL SAFE PARKING SITE, WEACE

33:17A CHOICE BETWEEN ALLOWING

33:18UNMANAGED PARKING ON OUR PUBLIC

33:20STREETS OR ESTABLISHING A

33:22STRUCTURED, ACCOUNTABLE AND

33:25PROACTIVE SOLUTION. LEAVING

33:26VEHICLE RESIDENCY UNADDRESSED

33:30DOES NOT SOLVE THEUNDER LYING

33:32ISSUES. CREATING SAFETY EARNS

33:36CAN -- CONCERNS AND ISSUES.

33:42PRIDING GATED ACCESS, CLEAN

33:45RESTROOM FACILITIES AND

33:47DESIGNATED TRASH DISPOSAL. MOST

33:49IMPORTANTLY, A SAFE PARKING SITE

33:52IS A PROVEN BRIDGE BACK IN TO

33:54HOUSING STABILITY. A MAJORITY OF

33:56INDIVIDUALS SLEEPING IN THEIR

33:56VEHICLES ARE WORKING ADULTS,

33:59STENTS OR FAMILIES WHO

34:01RECENTLY LOST HOUSING BUT RETAIN

34:04AN ACTIVE PATH FORWARD. ACCESS

34:06TO CASE MANAGEMENT AND HOUNG

34:08NAVIGATION SERVICES. WE EMPOWER

34:10THEM TO STABILIZE THEIR JOBS,

34:12SECURE PERMANENT HOUSING FAR

34:13MORE QUICKLY THAN IF THEY WERE

34:15LEFT ON THE STREET. WHILE VALID

34:19QUESTIONS EXIST, A WELL OPERATED

34:22SAFE PARKING PROGRAM ACROSSHE

34:25COUNTRY HAVE -- ACTIVE SITE

34:28MANAGEMENT KEEP NEARBY STREETS

34:29SAFER AND CLEANER BY THE STATUS

34:30QUO. NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF

34:37UNMANAGED HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS.

34:39IT IS A EFFECTIVE VOTE F REAL

34:42SOLUTIONS. I STRONGLY URGE YOU

34:46TO VOTE IN APPROVING THIS.

34:48>> NEXT PERSON, NUMBER 3 IS BOZE

34:51ABDI.

35:07>> HI, MY NAME IS FOZE ABDI.

35:11BORN IN MINNEAPOLIS, RAISED

35:12RIGHT NEXT TO THE CAPITAL IN

35:14SAINT PAUL. HOMELESSNESS IN OUR

35:16COMMUNITY NEEDS TO COME TO AN

35:18END. IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO SEE

35:20SO MANY PEOPLE STRUGGLING

35:22WITHOUT A SAFE PLACE TO CALL

35:24HOME. E DRUG CRISIS ON THE

35:26STREETS OF MINNEAPOLIS IS OUT OF

35:28CONTROL. TOO MAN PEOPLE ARE

35:30SUFFERING WITHOUT THE HELP THEY

35:30DESPERATELY NEED. WE CANNOT KEEP

35:34PUSHING PEOPLE FROM ONE PLACE TO

35:37ANOTHER AND PRETEND WE ARE

35:38SOLVING THE PROBLEM. WE NEED

35:40REAL SOLUTIONS. REAL AFFORDABLE

35:44HOUSING. NOT THIS CORPORATE

35:45HOUSING THAT CLAIMS TO HELP

35:48AFFORDABILITY, MENTAL HEALTH

35:50SERVICES, ADDICTION TREATMENT

35:51AND ONGOING SUPPORT TO HELP

35:53PEOPLE REBUILD THEIR LIVES. EVEN

35:54WHEN PEOPLE FINALLY GET HOUSING,

35:58SOME CANNOT AFFORD THEIR

35:59ELECTRICITY, UTILITIES, OR BASIC

36:03LIVING EXPENSES. WITHOUT THAT

36:04SUPPORT, THEY END UP BACK ON THE

36:05STREETS. HOUSING IS NOT JUST

36:08ABOUT GETTING SOMEONE A KEY. IT

36:09IS ABOUTAKING SURE THEY CAN

36:11AFFORD TO STAY THERE. OUR

36:14COMMUNITY DESERVES BETTER, AND

36:16PEOPLE STRUGGLING ON OUR STREETS

36:18DESERVE TO BE HEARD. MAYOR JACOB

36:22FREY, LIKE EVERYONE, ALL

36:24POLITICIANS, WE NEED YOU TO STEP

36:25UP AND TAKE THIS VICES

36:26SERIOUSLY. OUR POLITICIANS NEED

36:28TO WAKE UP AND WORK TOGETHER.

36:31ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES OF

36:34HOMELE

36:35HOMELESSNESS, ADDICTION AND

36:38POVERTY. EVERYONE DESERVES A

36:40SAFE, AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE

36:41AND ACCESS TO HEALTH. THIS IS

36:43GETTING OUT OF HAND AND WE

36:45CANNOT CONTINUEO LOOK THE

36:46OTHER WAY. MINNEAPOLIS, LETS

36:49STOP MOVING PEOPLE AROUND AND

36:51START CHANGING LIVES. OUR

36:54COMMUNITY NEEDSCTION NOW.

36:55ALSO, WINTER IS COMING. LET'S

36:56TAKE ACTION.

36:58>>HANK YOU SO MUCH. NUMBER 4,

37:03NEXT PERSON IS VENIE. WELCOME.

37:05>> HELLO. I'M A RESIDENT AND

37:08SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN THE

37:12NOKOMIS AREA IN MINNEAPOLIS.

37:13ASSISTING OUR LOCAL UNHOUSED

37:16NEIGHBORS. OUR OUTREACH

37:18NEIGHBORS CREATED RELATIONSHIPSF

37:21OUR NEIGHBORS, BOTH HOUSED AND

37:27UNHOUSED. CARE KITS OF ITEMS.

37:29SPEAKING TO OUR UNHOUSED

37:32NEIGHBORS AND BUILDING

37:33RELATIONSHIPS THAT HAVE BUILT

37:34TRUST. THIS TRUST HAS ALLOWED

37:37OUR MORE VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS TO

37:40SHARE THEIR DESIRES. THEIR CHIEF

37:43REQUEST HAS BEEN DISABILITY.

37:45THIS ORDINANCE ISUST A SIMPLE

37:47ONE. CREATING PLACES FOR FOLKS

37:48TO REST SAFELY CAN BE AN OPENING

37:51FOR OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS TO

37:54START BUILDING THAT STABILITY. I

37:55URGE THE PASSING OF THIS

37:57ORDINANCE TO HELP ESTABLISH

37:58ANOTHER RESOURCE FOR OUR MOST

38:00VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS AND BUILD A

38:02BETTER MINNEAPIS FOR EVERY

38:03RESIDENT. THANK YOU.

38:04>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT

38:08PERSON IS NUMBER 6. SORRY, I

38:10CAN'T PRONOUNCE THENAME. BUT IT

38:16MIGHT BE M, FIRST NAME. LAST

38:20NAME, T. TUTALE. HI. WELCOME.

38:27SORRY ABOUT THAT. YOUR

38:31HANDWRITING.

38:33>> MITCH TITIEL. THANKS FOR

38:37HAVING ME HERE. I GUESS I MISSED

38:41OUT ON SOME OF THE ELIER

38:45STAGES. BUT I JUST WANTED TO

38:48SHARE AS A 58-YEAR SON OF THIS

38:50CITY, WHAT I SEE WHEN I WALK

38:55AROUND PICKING UP AFTER, YOU

38:58KNOW, TAKE AWAY THE PEOPLE

39:00LOOKING FOR LIKE THE FAMILIES

39:03THAT ARE IN VEHICLES. THE ACTIVE

39:08DRUG ABUSE. AND I'VE LOT

39:11LONG-TERM INVOLVEMENT WITH THE

39:13RECOVERY COMMUNITY. AND WHAT I

39:17SEE WALKING AROUND MY

39:20NEIGHBORHOOD, PICKING UP ALL

39:21THIS STUFF. ALL THE STEMS, THE

39:24NEEDLES, THE LIGHTERS. I DON'T

39:27KNOW HOW ANYON GOVERNS THIS. I

39:29WORK WITH PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF

39:32ENCAMPNTS. WHILE THEY'RE IN

39:33THE ENCAMPMENTS. WHILE THEY'RE

39:34OUT TRYING TO GET STRAIGHT. I'VE

39:37SEEN THEM DO, YOU KNOW,

39:40ENCAMPMENTS AND DRUG ADDICTION,

39:43BASICALLY. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU

39:45REGULATE IT. IN AAY THAT -- I

39:53DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO

39:55SAY . BUT I'VE NOTEE IT

39:58WORK. BUT I'VE NOT SEEN SOME OF

40:00THE EXAMPLES IN DULUTH AND

40:01DENVER. YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S -- I

40:04JUST CAME HERE TO SHARE WHAT I

40:06THINKND WHAT I SEE AROUND THE

40:07CITY. THANKS FOR YR TIME.

40:11>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR NUMBER

40:13SIX, NICOLE MASON. WELCOME.

40:23>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I HAVE COME

40:24JUST TO SHARE A COUPLE OF

40:28STORIES OF SOME FAMILIES. MY

40:31NAME IS NICOLE MASO AND I'M A

40:33STREET OUTREACH WORKER HERE IN

40:35SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. I HELP A LOT

40:37OF OUR RELATIVES THAT ARE

40:40UNHOUSED AND ACTIVE ADDICTION.

40:43THROUGH A HARM REDUCTION

40:45APPROACH, I HELP THEM REACH

40:47RECOVERY GOALS. AND SOEING OUT

40:50ON THE STREET, I RAN INTO TWO

40:52DIFFERENT FAMILIES. ONE OF

40:57MOTHER AND SON THAT

40:59UNFORTUNATELY HAD A HOUSE FIRE.

41:00AND THEY DID NOT GO INTO SHELTER

41:03BECAUSE OF THEIR CAT AND THEIR

41:04DOG. SO THAT WAS A BARRIER TO

41:06THEM GOING INTO THE SHELTER. AND

41:08THEY'RE CURRENTLY LIVING IN

41:10THEIR CAR WAITING FOR HELP WITH

41:11HOUSING. THE SECONDNE WAS A

41:15WOMAN AND HER PARTNER WITH THEIR

41:17THREE CHILDREN. WE FOUND THEM AT

41:18THE PARK. SO I LIVE IN WARD 9. I

41:21LIVE IN THE POWDERHORN

41:23NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S WHERE

41:24THEY WERE STAYING AROUND. AND

41:26THEN I START SEEING THEM AROUND

41:28THE EAST PHILLIPS PARK. LET ME

41:30PULL OVER AND SAY HELLO AND SEE

41:32IF THEY WANT SNACKS. FOUND OUT

41:34THEIR SITUATION THAT THEY HAD

41:35LLED THE SHELTER HOTLINE AND

41:37COULD NOT GET IN BECAUSE THEY

41:40DIFFERENT HAVE THE RIGHT PROOFS

41:43OF CUSTODY FOR THE CHILDREN

41:44BECAUSE THEY HAD ALSO BEEN IN

41:47RECOVERY, OUT OFTREATMENT, AND

41:49THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT. AND SO

41:51ALTHOUGH THEY DID HAVE BENEFITS

41:52IN TIR NAME. SO THIS WAS A

41:55BARRIER TO THEM GETTING INTO THE

41:59SHELTER. WITH OUR ADEQUACY HERE,

42:01WE DID HELP THEM GET INTO PEOPLE

42:03SERVING PEOPLE AND GOT SOME

42:05RRIERS CHANGED THROUGH THAT

42:07PHONE CALL. BUT IT TOOK TWO AND

42:09A HALF EKS. SO I THINK A SAFE

42:12PARKING SPACE FOR FAMILIES LIKE

42:13THIS WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL

42:15FOR THE ONES THAT WOULD BE ABLE

42:17TO RECEIVE THOSE SERVICES RIGHT

42:19ON SITE, AND SHOWERS.

42:20LIKE SHOWERS FOR THE CHILDREN

42:21THAT WERE GOING TO SCHOOL. YOU

42:22KNOW. THANK YOU.

42:25>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NT

42:27PERSON IS NUMBER 7, ROBIN

42:28RUSSELL.

42:34>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MT OF YOU

42:37LOOK A LITTLE BRIGHTER EYED THAN

42:38YOU DID LAST NIGHT. SO TT'S

42:40GOOD TO SEE. MY NAME'S ROBIN

42:44RUSSELL. I LIVE AND VOTE IN WARD

42:489. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO

42:51SAY I THINK THE TIMING IS OFF

42:53FOR IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM

42:56GIVEN CURRENT BUDGET CONDITIONS.

42:59BUT IF IT DOES MOVE FORWARD, MY

43:04PRIMARY CONCERN IS IN THINKING

43:07THAT THESE SITES SHOULD NOT BE

43:12LOCATED IN RESIDENTIAL

43:13NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT IF THEY ARE,

43:14A NOTICE OF 300 FEET IS

43:18INFFICIENT BECAUSE THESE SITES

43:19WILL IMPACT A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD

43:20AND NOT JUST THE BLOCK THAT

43:21THEY'RE ON. MY NEIBORHOOD

43:28POWDERHORN PARK HAS HOSTED MANY

43:31HOLESS PEOPLE AS OUR NEIGHBORS

43:32OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

43:35GERALLY HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE

43:36NOT BAD NEIGHBORS. THE PROBLEM

43:38IS THE PREDATORS TT COME

43:40AROUND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF

43:40THEM. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HAD A

43:44NUMBER OF HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN

43:47SHOT UP IN RECEN YEARS BY

43:49PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE OF

43:50THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN THEURRENT

43:55BUDGET STATE, THE CRIMINAL EVE

43:57OF SHOOTING UP SOMEBODY'S HOME

43:59IS MORE OFTEN TREATED AS A

44:02LIVEABILITY ISSUE THAN THE CRIME

44:02THAT IT IS. IF THIS PROGRAM IS

44:07IMPLEMENTED, I WOULD LIKE TO

44:09NONATE THE TANGLETOWN

44:11NEIGHBORHOOD AS THE FIRST HOST

44:13SITE OF, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW,

44:18A SIDENTL NEIGHBORHOOD IS

44:18CHOSEN. I ALWAYS GET LOST

44:22DRIVING AROUND THE STREETS OF

44:25TANGELTOWN. AND MAYBE THE

44:26PREDATORS WOULD TOO. NOT A BAD

44:31IDEA. RESIDENTS OF TANGLETOWN

44:34WOULD LIKELY HAVE BETTER

44:35INSURANCE, AND MORE CLOUT TO

44:38RESOLVE ANY PROBLEMS THAT

44:39IMPLEMENNGHIS PROGRAM WOULD

44:39BRING.

44:41THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT

44:48PERSON IS CRYSTAL P.

44:55>> CHAIR OSMAN, I BELIEVE YOU

44:56SKIPPED ONE PERSON. DO YOU MIND

44:58GOING BACK TO SHEILA.

45:00>> SHEI. NUMBER 8, SHEILA

45:02DELANEY. MY APOLOGIES.

45:04>> SO WE WOULD LIKE TO BE

45:06TOGETHER. CRYSTAL IS 9.

45:07>> YEAH, GO AHEAD. >> SO I'M SHO

45:11COMMEND YOU FOR TAKING THIS

45:13STEP. I WANT T PAINT A PICTURE

45:15OF THIS IS JUST A STEP. AND TO

45:16PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT

45:17TH MANAGEMENT, I THINK YOU'RE

45:19DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB OF

45:20THINKING THROUGH WHAT IS NEEDED.

45:25AS YOU KNOW, W ALL LITERALLY

45:27ALL OF US ARE EXPERIENCING

45:29CRISIS AFTER CRISIS. AND FOR

45:31PEOPLE WHO HAVE ECONOMIC

45:33VULNERABILITY, LIVING IN A CAR

45:35IS OFTEN THE LAST RESORT. AND SO

45:38MY HOPE IS THAT BY YOUR WORK,

45:39PEOPLE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE BE IN

45:41THEIR CAR FENDING FOR THEMSELVES

45:44CAN GET CONNECTED TO SERVICES.

45:46AND I THINK YOU KNOW MY POSITION

45:49ON. WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE

45:51CAN TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. AND

45:54WE ARE A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY. I

45:55WORK ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND

45:57I'M REALLY PROUD TO TALK ABOUT

45:58WHAT YOU DO. SO THANK YOU.

46:01>> HI. I'M CRYSTAL. I'M A MOTHER

46:04OF FIVE. I RAISED FOUR OF THEM.

46:06I'VE BEEN LIVING IN MY CAR FOR

46:08OVER TWO ARS. I'M ON EVERY

46:10PROGRAM. EVERY WAITING LIST.

46:11I'VE BEEN GETTING LOOPS AROUND

46:13EVERYWHERE. IT'S JUST SAD HOW

46:15THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ABILITY

46:16TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE HOUSING

46:19FOR MOTHERS OR PARENTS THAT ARE

46:21WILLING TO WK AND WILLING TO

46:23TRY AND DO BETTER. WE'RE ALL

46:25HUMAN BEINGS. WE ALL NEED, YOU

46:27KNOW, THINGS AND STUFF LIKE

46:28THAT. SO IT'S JUST SCARY THE

46:31FACT THAT HOW OUR COMMUNITY IS.

46:32WE SHOULD BE MORE OF A COMMUNITY

46:33INSTEAD OF GOING AGAINST EACH

46:35OTHER. I JT FEEL LIKE WE

46:37SHOULD JUST HAVE MORE

46:38OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO HELP

46:41PARENTS OF CHILDREN AND JUST

46:42WILLING TO HELP. AND YES, OUR

46:44COMMUNITY WITH ALL THIS DRUG USE

46:46AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE

46:47WILLING TO WORK AND, YOU KNOW,

46:49CHANGE THEIR LIVES FOR IT. I

46:50JUST THINK IT'S JUST THE BEST

46:52WAY WE JUST NEED TO STICK

46:54TOGETHER AND WORK AS A TEAM

46:55INSTEAD O JUST JUDGING PEOPLE

46:57BY JUST ADDICTS.

47:00>> I KNOW WE HAVE A TOTAL OF

47:02FOUR MINUTES, BUT ALL I WANT IT

47:04SAY IS CAN WE PLEASE PUT ASIDE

47:06WHATEVER SMALL POLITICAL

47:07DIFFERENCES BECAUSE I KNOW EACH

47:08AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IN THIS

47:10BODY WANTS THE BEST FOR PEOPLE.

47:12THANK YOU.

47:12>> THANK YOU.

47:14>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

47:16TESTIMONY. NOW, NUMBER 10 IS

47:19JUSTIN ATUA.

47:27>> HELLO, MEMBERS OF THE

47:29COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JUSTIN. I

47:31WANTED TO COME OUT HERE AND

47:33SPEAK FROM THE HEART AND TALK

47:35ABOUT WHEN YOU GUYS HAD BECOME

47:36COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU MADE A

47:37PROMISE TO HELP THE MEMBERS OF

47:39YOUR COMMUNITY AND RUN AND DO

47:40ANYTHING YOU CAN TO HELP THOSE

47:42WHO NEED IT. HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE

47:44STILL MEMBERS OF THOSE

47:44COMMUNITIES AS WELL. I KNOW YOU

47:46GUYS HAVE NOT FORGETEN THAT. BUT

47:49DOING THIS IS A STEP IN THE

47:51RIGHT DIRECTION AND HELPS THOSE

47:52WHO NEED IT. SOME PEOPLE,

47:54WHATEVER THE SITUATION MIGHT BE,

47:55MIGHNOT BE ABLE TO STAY IN A

47:57SHELTER OR HAVE A PLACE TO STAY

47:59AND SLEEPING ON THE STREET. YOU

48:02GUYS KNOW HOW COLD MINNESOTA

48:03WINTERS GET. SOMETIMES STAYING

48:04IN THE CAR IS STILL A GOOD

48:05OPTION FOR PEOPLE. I SEEN A

48:08VIDEO ONE TIME SOMETIMES THEY

48:10HAVE TO FIND NEIGHBORS TO PARK

48:12THE CAR AND SPEND THE NIGHT. IF

48:14THAT DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEN THEY

48:16HAVE TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

48:17THEY COULD BE SPENDING THE

48:19ENTIRE NIGHT FINDING A PLACE TO

48:21SLEEP. HAVING THIS GO THROUGH

48:23WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. AND IT WILL

48:25SHOW ONC AGAIN THAT YOU GUYS

48:28ARE HERE FOR THOSE PEOPLE AND

48:30MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND HELP THOSE

48:33OUT WHO REALLY NEED IT. THAT'S

48:34ALL I CAME HERE TO SAY. THANK

48:36YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO.

48:38>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT

48:42PERSON IS GRACE GERHART.

48:46>> HI, FRIENDS. ONCE MORE, ONCE

48:48AGAIN WHERE WE ARE. OKAY. HELLO,

48:53MY NAME IS GRACE GERHART, A

48:56GRASSROOTS ORGANIZER OF THE

48:57TRANS COMMUNITY. BEFORE I WAS

49:01COBE LANE'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER, I

49:04WAS LIVING OUT OF MY SUBARU. THE

49:08HOING STABILIZATION SERVICES

49:09THAT HAS BEEN CUT. OH, WITHOUT

49:11HELP FROM SOCIAL WOERS, I

49:13WOULD NOT BE HOUSED. LIVING IN A

49:15CAR IS A GREAT PRIVILE MOST OF

49:17YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND. TO

49:20FIGHT FOR ERY STRAND OF

49:22FLEETING DIGNITY, GOING TO SLEEP

49:26AFRAID. WILL I BE HARASSED,

49:28THREATENED OR ASSAULTED AGAIN?

49:30HAVING NO SAFETY DOES TERRIBLE

49:31THINGS FOR YOUR HEALTH. MY

49:33LIVING WIT SCHEDULED AROUND

49:35WHERE WHEN I COULD BE SAFE.

49:39PARKING CLOSE TO A NICE

49:42NEIGHBORHOODAN GET YOU

49:44ARRESTED. BEING TRANS ATIGHT

49:46CAN GET YOU KILLED. I WOULD ASK

49:48MY FRIENDS BUT THEY HAVE BEEN

49:50MURDERED. THERE IS NO DIGNIFIED

49:54WAY TO -- I CANNOT STRESS THE

49:56IMPORTANCE OF HAVING SAFETY, ANY

49:58SENSE OF STABILITY AND DIGNITY.

49:59IT CAN DO SO MUCH TO GET US BACK

50:01ON OUR FEET. CHRONIC ISSUES

50:05REQUIRE CHRONIC SUPPORT. STOP

50:07MAKING CUTS TO PROGRAMS THAT

50:08SAVE LIVES AND GIVE PEOPLE

50:10ANOTHER CHANCE. I KEEP HEARING

50:12YOU A SAY WE ALL DO BETTER

50:13WHEN WE ALL DO BETTER. WEANNOT

50:17DO BETTER WHILE I POVERTY IS

50:20CRINALIZED. PLEASE, WE ARE

50:22YOUR PEERS, YOUR EQUALS. PLEASE

50:26ALLOW OUR COMMUNITIES TO HELP

50:28US, TO PROTECT US. WE GOTTA KEEP

50:31EACH OTHER ALIVE ANY WAY WE CAN

50:33BECAUSE NOBODY EE IS GOING TO

50:34DO IT. PLEASE HELP US KEEP

50:39ALIVE. PLEASE HELP US THRIVE.

50:40THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

50:44>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT

50:45PERSON --

50:45>> WE WERE UNDER THIS TIME.

50:50>> NEXT PERSON IS NAT. WELCOME.M

51:01GOING TO START OFF WITH TWO

51:03TESTIMIES FROM PEOPLE LIVING

51:04OUT IN THE STREETS IN EAST

51:05PHILLIPS NEIGHBORHOOD. FIRST ONE

51:07IS A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT HERE

51:08DON'T HAVE CARS. SO THIS

51:09WOULDN'T BENEFIT THEM AT ALL.

51:12ALSO, IF SOMEONE IS LIVING OUT

51:14OF THEIR VEHICLE AND IT'S NOT

51:16PARKED LEGALLY, IT SHOULDN'T BE

51:21TOWED. THE NEXT ONE SAYS THINK

51:22ABOUT ALL THE KIDS WHO HAVE TO

51:25WALK UNDER THERE, MEANING

51:26HIAWATHA BRIDGE. WHEN THEY

51:28FENCED FRANKLIN BRGE, THERE

51:29WAS A LOT OF ACCIDENTS AND

51:33PEOPLE GOT HIT. A LOT MORE WILL

51:41HAPPEN. THEY DON'T CARE AUT

51:42HELPING PEOPLE. THEY ONLY CARE

51:44ABOUT HELPING THEMSELVES. HOW IS

51:46ANNE BATTLING ADDICTION

51:47SUPPOSED TO SEE ANY HOPE OF

51:49GETTING BETTER WHEN THE CITY

51:50ITSELF HAS MADE SURE TIME AND

51:52TIME AGAIN THAT THERE IS NO HOPE

51:53TO BE FOUND. THE CITY WON'T SAY

51:56OUTRIGHT THAT THEY WANT THE

51:58HOMELESS TO DIE. BUT THEY'LL

52:00SURE SHOW IT WITH THEIR ACTIONS.

52:01INSTEAD OF PUBLIC HOUSING, HARM

52:04REDUCTION OR SAFE SITES, THEY'LL

52:08WASTE EVERYONE'S MONEY PUTTING

52:11UP FENCING AND ARRESTING

52:12EVERYONE. THIS SAFE OUTDOOR

52:16PARKING ORDINANCE MIGHT BE A

52:18SMALL STEP IN THE RIGHT

52:19DIRECTION. BUTT DOES NOT

52:21COMPLETELY ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS.

52:22IT IS A BANDAID. WHAT ABOUT THE

52:25PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE

52:26AND ARE STUCK OUT IN THE

52:28FREEZING COLD? THERE STILL

52:29WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. SHOW

52:31EVERYONE THAT YOU ACTLLY CARE

52:33AND AREN'T JUST A BUNCH OF SUITS

52:35AND DRESSES GOING TO WINE

52:39PARTIES, AND THAT YOU ACTUALLY

52:40CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE YOU'RE

52:41SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT. THAT'S

52:42ALL.

52:43>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT

52:49PERSON IS KAYLYN K.

52:55WELCOME.

52:55>> HI. MY NAME'S KAYLYN. I'M A

52:58RESIDENT IN WARD 10. I DO QUITE

53:01A BIT OF REGULAR OUTREACH

53:03THROUGHOUT UPTOWN WITH THE

53:04UNHOUSED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

53:05AND I'M JUSTOING TO READ A FEW

53:09STATEMENTS FROM UNHOUSED

53:10NEIGHBORS TODAY. THE FIRST ONE

53:13SAYS THAT'LL BE COOL. I HAD TO

53:16DO THAT WITH MY KIDS ONCE. LOOK,

53:18WE DIDN'T HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.

53:20THERE WERE NO SHELTERS OPENED. I

53:23TRIED TWO AND WERE TNED AWAY.

53:25WAS IT BECAUSE OF MY KIDS' SKIN?

53:29I'M A TAXPAYER. YOU GUYS COME TO

53:32MY LAND. YOU GUYS SEE WHAT YOU

53:34DID TO MY ANCESTORS AND YOU'RE

53:36MAKING ME PAY FOR IT. THE SECOND

53:38ONE SAYS I LIVED IN MY VAN FOR A

53:40YEAR. I WENT TO WORK AND THEY

53:42TOWED MY VAN BECAUSE THEY WANTED

53:46ME IN A TENT OR SOMETHING. NOW

53:49MY VAN IS SITTING IN THE CITY.

53:52THEY WONDER WHY PEOPLE STEAL.

53:54THEY NEED A PLACE TO LEAVE THEIR

53:55CAR THE REST OF THE TIME. AND

53:57THE LAST STATEMENT HAVE TO

53:59READ. IF THERE WAS A PLACE

54:01PEOPLE COULD GO AND USE SAFELY,

54:03THE CRIME RATE WOULD GO DOWN.

54:05FOR HENNEPIN COUNTY, IF YOU

54:06ULD HAVE 6 TO 8 OR EVEN JUST AF

54:10WOULD HELP A LOT. IF YOU COULD

54:12PULL UP AND GET NARCAN AT

54:15SPITALS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO

54:16BE HUSH-HUSH ABOUT OTHER ISSUES

54:18AROUND ADDICTION, HOW ARE YOU

54:20GOING TO HELP PEOPLE FACING

54:22ADDICTIONS. IT WOULD HELP

54:24BUSINESSES TOO. EVERY BUSINESS

54:25DOESN'T WANT 50 PEOPLE TO USE

54:27OUTSIDE THEIR BUILDING.REY

54:28SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO

54:30THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK

54:31YOU.

54:33>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT

54:35PERSON IS STACY SHERMAN.

54:45>> THANKYOU. I WANT TO ASSURE

54:47YOU I DID NOT SLEEP HERE

54:50OVERNIGHT. I'M STACY SHERMAN,

54:54WARD 9 RESIDENT, CO-FOUNDER OF

54:55MINNEAPOLIS FOR BETTER POLICE

54:57CONTRACT AND A MEMBER OFWIN

54:58CITIES DSA. I'M HERE IN STRONG

55:02SUPPORT OF PARNG ORDINANCE.

55:06THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBERS,

55:10FOR THIS RESPONSIVE ORDINANCE.

55:11IT'S A GOOD START. AND THANK YOU

55:13FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE

55:14TO KEEP SAYING THA SAFE

55:17OUTDOOR PARKING EQUALS SAFE

55:20NEIGHBORS. NEIGHBORS WHO FIND

55:22THEMSELVES OFTEN VERY SUDDENLY T

55:25PEOPLE FIND THEMSELVES IN THAT

55:27CAUSES THEM TO FALL INTO BEING

55:29UNHOUSED ARE MANY, AND THEY ARE

55:30GOING TO GET WORSE. WE ARE

55:36SEEING WHA THE CURRENT

55:39HEARTLESS GOVERNMENT AND OUR

55:40MAYOR ARE DOING TO CUT SUPPORTS

55:43FOR PEOPLE. THIS INCLUDES

55:46KICKING PEOPLE OFF OF MEDICAL

55:49INSURANCE. THAT MEANS THEY FACE

55:53A CHOICE BETWEEN HEALTH, MENTAL

55:56HEALTH SERVICES AND HOUSING.

55:57JUST THIS WEEK, MY HUSBAND FOUND

56:02OUT OUR PLANS ARE BEING

56:03CANCELED. AS SOMEONE WHO JUST

56:08THIS YEAR HAD LUNG CANCER

56:10SUERY AND WILL UNDERGO AN

56:12UNRELATED SURGERY IN A FEW

56:14WEEKS, IT'S SCARY TO FEEL THAT

56:15WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COVER OUR

56:18MEDICATIONS. HOWEVER, AS WHITE

56:20PRIVILEGED HOMEOWNERS, WE'LL

56:21LAND ON OUR FEET. MANY OTHERS IN

56:24THESE AND OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES

56:24WILL NOT. IF THEY BECOME

56:29UNHOUSED AND ARE PRESENTLY

56:32UNHOUSED, THEY MUST BE MET WITH

56:36RESPONSIVE SERVICES LE THIS

56:37ORDINANCE WILL BRING. MY ONE

56:39SERIOUS CONCERN IS ALLOWING MPD

56:41TO HAVE ANY AUTHORITY ON ANY

56:43PLANS, AND ESPECIALLY HOVERING

56:45PRESENCE AT ANY OUTDOOR PARKING

56:47OR FACILITY. IT MAY WELL DETER

56:54THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD GO THERE.

56:56WE HAVE TO SET A GOO EXAMPLE

56:58AND HAVE A WELCOMING PRESENCE

56:59FOR PEOPLE.

57:00>> THANK YOU.

57:01>> IT NEE TO BE WITHOUT THE

57:03POLICE. THANK YOU.

57:03>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT

57:06PERSON IS MIKE HOFFMAN. WELCOME.

57:14>> HI. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

57:16I AM A WARD 3 RESIDENT, AND I'M

57:18HERES A SERVICE PROVIDER. I

57:22OPERATE SHELTER IN SOUTH

57:24MINNEAPOLIS WITH OUR SAVERS

57:25COMMUNITY SERVICES. WE HAVE

57:26PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AS

57:28WELL. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR

57:30OF THIS ORDINANCE AND THIS

57:31CHANGE. NOBODY HERE IS PROPOSING

57:37THAT THIS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION.

57:38BUT IT'S ONE OF A SPECTRUM OF

57:41OPTIONS THAT WE NEED. THE

57:44DIVESTMENT FM THE FEDERAL

57:45GOVERNMENT IN THE HOMELESS

57:48SERVICES THAT WE OFFER IS

57:53PUTTING IN JEOPARDY THE SERVICES

57:54THAT WE ARE ABLE TO OFFER AND

57:56OTHER PARTNER PROVIDERS WITHIN

57:57NNEPIN COUNTY. WE AREN A

58:01PLACE WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE

58:05SERIOUS DECISNS AND

58:06COMPLICATED DECISIONS. AS A

58:10SERVICE PROVIDER, I'VE GONE

58:12THROUGH THREE LICENNG OF

58:14SHELTERS. IT I NOT A RUBBER

58:16STAMP. IT IS A STRINGENT

58:17PROCESS, AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT

58:19THIS LICENSING PROCESS THAT'S

58:20BEING PROPOSED IS AS PART OF

58:24THIS WILL ENSURE THAT THERE ARE

58:28SAFETY MEASURES TAKEN TO ENSURE

58:29THAT SOMEF THE THINGS THAT

58:32WERE TALKED ABOUT AS CONCERNS

58:33ARE ADDRESSED. ALREADY MORE

58:41PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING OUTSIDE IN

58:43VEHICLES THAN WE HAVE A GOOD

58:44HANDLE ON. I WAS A STREET

58:49OUTREACH MANAGER FOR MORE THAN 8

58:50YEARS. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE

58:52ARE PEOPLELEEPING IN VEHICLES

58:53ALL ACROSS THE CITY. AND WE DO

58:56NOT KNOW WHERE THEY ALL ARE OR

58:58HOW MANY THERE ARE. OFTEN WHEN

59:01WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE

59:03EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, WE

59:06USE AND WE HEAR LANGUAGE OF

59:08FEAR. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THIS

59:11AT THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL AND

59:13THIS COMMITTEE TO MOVE AWAY FROM

59:16THE IDEAS OF FEAR AND LET'S NOT

59:19LET FEAR TRY TO PREVENT

59:20SOMETHING NEW FROM HAPPENING.

59:23THANK YOU.

59:23>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MIKE, FOR

59:26YOUR TESTIMONY. AND THANK YOU

59:27FOR WHAT YOU DO. APPRECIATE YOU

59:28COMING. NEXT PERSON IS REESE

59:33KENDALL.

59:41>> HELLO. ELLIOTT PAYNE, MICHAEL

59:44RAINVILLE, LATRISHA VETA

59:48PEARLL WARREN, LINEA PALMISANO,

59:55WHY AREOUR NAMES NOT ON --

59:58>> SIR, WILL YOU PLEASE

1:00:01ADDRESS. --

1:00:01>> SINCE THIS ADMINISTRATION

1:00:03DOES NOT TAKE TIME TO -- WHO CAN

1:00:07PAY PARKING FEES DOWNTOWN, I

1:00:09WILL B READING SOME TESTIMONIES

1:00:11BY PEOPLE STAYING ON THE STREET

1:00:14IN THE PHILLIPS NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:00:15THIS QUOTE SAYS ANYONE SHOULD

1:00:16HAVE THE RIGHT TO SLEEP IN THEIR

1:00:18CAR IF THEY HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO

1:00:20STAY. THIS PERSON SAYS DO THEY

1:00:21HAVE SOMEONE WATCHING YOU ALL

1:00:23NIGHT? THAT'S CREEPY, YOU KNOW.

1:00:25OTHER THAN THAT, I'M ALL FOR IT.

1:00:28THIS ONE SAYSHE ORDINANCE

1:00:31SHOULD BE ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND

1:00:33FENCES. -- I'VE SEEN THEM BOTH

1:00:36OF THEM. I COULDN'T SLEEP FOR

1:00:38DAYS AND I COULDN'T EAT FOR

1:00:41DAYS. THIS ONE SAYS THE MONEY

1:00:43USED O FENCES SHOULD GO TO

1:00:45HOUSING. HEALING FOR SOMETHING.

1:00:51PEOPLE DESERVE AUTONOMY TO LIVE

1:00:54ON LANDS, ESPECIALLY STOLEN

1:00:55DAKOTA LAND WHICH WAS TAKEN BY

1:00:58BROKEN TREATIES. HOW MANY EMPTY

1:01:01BUILDINGS ARE THERE? HOW MANY

1:01:04EMPTY LAND WHERE PEOPLE ARE

1:01:07FORCED TO STAY OUTSIDE. -- I

1:01:08WON'T PRETEND THAT BEGGING

1:01:13POLITICIANS WILL ACTUALLY MAKE

1:01:15CHANGE. I AND MANY OTHERS WILL

1:01:17CONTINUE TO FIGHT THE CITY'S

1:01:18ABUSE UNTIL EVERYONE HAS A ROOF

1:01:20OVER THEIR HEADS, THEIR BELLIES

1:01:24HEALTHCARE. NO MATTER HOW MANY

1:01:26LANDLORD MEGA CORPORATIONS AND

1:01:30OTHER OLD WHITE -- AND WHERE IS

1:01:31FREY, BY THE WAY? IT'S

1:01:34RIDICULOUS. DID ANYONE UP ARE

1:01:36GET ONE OF THESE ZINES? IF YOU

1:01:39DIDN'T GET ONE, I'LL HAND ONE TO

1:01:42THE CLERK.

1:01:42>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1:01:43[APPLAUS

1:01:44>> THAT IS THE END OF THE LIST.

1:01:46ARE THERE ANYONEHO WOULD LIKE

1:01:48TO SPEAK?EFORE WE CLOSE THE

1:01:50PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT.

1:01:57SEEING NO ONE ELSE, I WILL CLOSE

1:02:00THE PUBL HEARING. AND

1:02:03RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ.

1:02:05>> THANK YOU, CHAIR OSMAN. I

1:02:07MOVE APPROVAL OF THE SAFE

1:02:09OUTDOOR PARKING ORDINANCES BOTH

1:02:10THE ZONING AMENDMENT AND THE

1:02:12LICENSING AND REGULATIONS

1:02:15ORDINANCE. AND MOVE FORWARD TO

1:02:17THE FULL COUNCIL WITH

1:02:18RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

1:02:23>> SECOND.

1:02:24>> AND IF YOU MAY, CHAIR, WE

1:02:28WANT TO ADD COUNCIL MEMBER

1:02:28STEVENSON AS WELL. I KNOW HE'S

1:02:30ON ONE OF THEM BUT HE'S NOT ON

1:02:33THE OTHER.

1:02:33>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1:02:35AWESOME. THANK U. THIS

1:02:36POLICY CREATES A CLEAR REGULATED

1:02:38PATH FOR SAFE OUTDOOR PARKING

1:02:40SITES. IT SETS A STANDARD FOR

1:02:41SITES TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SAFE

1:02:43AND WELL MANAGED. AND IT GIVES

1:02:46OPERATORS A LICENSING PROCESS

1:02:48WITH ACCOUNTABILITY. AND MOST

1:02:49IMPORTANTLY, IT GIVES NEIGHBORS

1:02:50AND THOSE WHO ARE LIVING IN

1:02:52THEIR CARS THE CONFIDENCE TO

1:02:54ENSURE THAT THESE SITES WILL BE

1:02:57RUN RESPONSIBLY. IT ALSO LETS

1:02:59PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY CAN KEEP

1:03:00THEIR CAR AND STILL HAVE ACCESS

1:03:02TO SERVICES WHILE THEY WORK TO

1:03:04GET TOWARDS PERMANENT HOUSING. I

1:03:05WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS

1:03:07NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR HOUSING.

1:03:10WE STILL NEED DEEPLY AFFDABLE

1:03:13HOUSING IN THE CITY OF

1:03:14MINNEAPOLIS. WE STILL NEED TO

1:03:15FUND OUR SHELTER SYST. AND

1:03:17MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE NEED

1:03:20HOUSING -- BUT I ALSO BELVE

1:03:21THAT IN THIS CITY, WE NEED TO

1:03:24MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AT.

1:03:26AND THE DATA SHOWS THAT FOLKS

1:03:27ARE LIVING IN THEIR CARS IN THE

1:03:28CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND THAT

1:03:29MEANS THAT SAFE OUTDOOR PARKING

1:03:32IS CURRENTLY NEEDED AS A

1:03:34RESOURCE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND

1:03:35WE KNOW BASED ON DATA THAT FOLKS

1:03:37HAVE BEEN PERMANENT HOUSED

1:03:39THROUGH SUCH PROGRAMS ACROSS THE

1:03:41COUNTRY. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT

1:03:42THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS

1:03:44ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE AS THERE

1:03:46ARE SOME SPECIFICS NOT NOTED IN

1:03:48THE PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. BUT I

1:03:51DO WT TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT

1:03:53THOSE WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE

1:03:57MANAGEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY

1:03:58PLANNING, AND WHICH STAFF WILL

1:03:59WORK CLOSELY ON. I WANT IT THANK

1:04:02THE CPED STAFF WHO HE SPENT

1:04:05COUNTLESS HOURS ON THIS

1:04:05ORDINANCE FOR MANY YEARS.

1:04:07AND I WANT TO THANK WARD 8, WARD

1:04:109, WARD 10 OFFICES WHO HAVE

1:04:12WORKED HARD. AND IN PARTICULAR,

1:04:15ROBERT FROM MY OFFICE.

1:04:16>> THANK YOU SOMUCH. I FEE A

1:04:18FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS SIGNED UP.

1:04:19BUT I PUT MYSELF HERE AND SAY

1:04:23THAT IN MY TIME HERE, LAST SIX

1:04:25YEARS, I SPOKE A LOT ABOUT

1:04:28ENCAMPMENTS AND UNHOUSED

1:04:28RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND

1:04:31ALWAYS TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION TO

1:04:35TALK TO THE COUNTY, STATE,

1:04:39ADMINISTRATION. IT'S REALLY

1:04:40SOMETHING THAT WE CONTINUE TO

1:04:43IGNORE AND LIKE PASS BY, DRIVE

1:04:44BY. LIKE MANY OF YOU, I HA HAD

1:04:55DOUBT ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL. THERE

1:04:56ARE MANY THINGS THAT CAN

1:04:59QUESTION PREDENCE IN

1:05:00MINNEAPOLIS ABOUT HAVING CARS,

1:05:03SLEEPING. BUT I REALIZE THAT,

1:05:06YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN EMERGENCY

1:05:08SITUATN. AND WHEN WE ARE IN

1:05:09EMERGENCY SITUATION, THERE HAS

1:05:10TO BE A WAY F US TO BE

1:05:13CREATIVE. I HAVE NOT SEEN, SINCE

1:05:19I'VE BEEN HERE, ANYONE -- WHEN I

1:05:23TALK ABOUT ANYONE, THE STATE OR

1:05:25TH COUNTY, OR EVEN THE CITY

1:05:27BRINGING A SOLUTION. THEIR

1:05:28SOLUTION CONTINUE TO BE WELL

1:05:30LET'S CLEAR THEM OUT. SOMEONE

1:05:35WHO HAD DEALT WITH MANY

1:05:37ENCAMPMENTS AND CONTINUE TO

1:05:39DEALT WITH MANY ENCAMPMENTS.

1:05:40PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING UNDER THE

1:05:43BRIDGE. PEOPLE ARE GETTING

1:05:48KILLED. BEING OVERDOSED. YOUNG

1:05:49PERSON THAT I KNOW WAS HIT B A

1:05:51CAR WHILE HE WAS CROSSING

1:05:56BETWEEN THE HIAWATHA AND CEDAR

1:05:58BRIDGES. SO IS THIS PERFECT? NO.

1:06:04IS THIS BEING A LITTLE BIT OF

1:06:06CREATIVE ANDINDING A SOLUTION

1:06:09TO HELP THESE FOLKS INUR

1:06:12COMMUNITY? YES. I THINK

1:06:13SOMETIMES WHEN WE ARE IN A

1:06:15SITUATION, THERE HAS TO BE A WAY

1:06:19TO CREATE. IF YOU DON'T AGREE

1:06:20WITH THIS, I COMPLETELY

1:06:23UNDERSTAND. BUT WHAT IS YOUR SO

1:06:27CITY, AS LAWMAKERS OF THE STATE

1:06:31OFFER ALTERNATIVES THAWE ARE

1:06:33RIGHT NOW. REALLY HAPPY TO SEE

1:06:41PEOPLE LIKE MIKE SAVERS COME AND

1:06:43SAY THEY SUPPORT THIS. THAT IS

1:06:45REALLY POWERFUL, IN MY OPINION.

1:06:49THEY ARE THE ONE ON THE GROUND.

1:06:51THEY'RE ADDRESSING THAT. I KNOW

1:06:52IT'S NOT PERFECT. BUT I FEEL

1:06:58LIKE WE RUN OUT OF OPTIONS AND

1:07:00WE'RE LETTING FOLKS DIE ON THE

1:07:02STREETS, STAY COLD IN MINNESOTA.

1:07:04AS MUCH AS I HAD A DOUBT ABOUT

1:07:05THIS, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS

1:07:09POLICY. AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL

1:07:12MEMBERS FOR BEING CREATIVE AND

1:07:15ACTUALLY BRINGING SOME PROPOSALS

1:07:17ON THE TABLE. THANK YOU. I WILL

1:07:20RECOGNIZE COUNL MEMBER

1:07:20RAINVILLE.

1:07:25>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I AEE

1:07:27WITH SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU SAID.

1:07:30THIS IS A CREATIVE SOLUTION. I

1:07:35ALSO WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE

1:07:38COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE DOING

1:07:40WORK ON THE STAFF. WE HAVE A

1:07:42REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR

1:07:43ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HERE. YOU CAN

1:07:44SEE THE THOUGHT. I AM GOING TO

1:07:47VOTE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. I DO

1:07:49HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, THOUGH,

1:07:51BEFORE MY FINAL VOTE. THIS IS

1:07:53NOT ANY GUARANTEES. BUT I'M

1:07:55WONDERING, COUNCIL MEMBER

1:07:56CHAVEZ, IF PERHAPS WE CAN SET

1:07:59ASIDE 15 MINUTES OUT OF YOUR

1:08:01BUSY SCHEDULE TO SPEAK WITH ME.

1:08:02>> THE AUTHORS AND I WOULD LOVE

1:08:03THAT.

1:08:04>> THANK YOU.

1:08:07>> COUNC MEMBER WARREN.

1:08:09>> THANK YOU, CHAIR OSMAN. I

1:08:13WANT TO SAY GOOD WORK TO MY

1:08:14COLLEAGUES. I'M IN A LOT OF

1:08:22PLACES RIGHT HERE. I JUST WANT

1:08:25TO SAY I LIVED IN MY CAR WITH MY

1:08:31KIDS DRIVING UP AND DOWN HIGHWAY

1:08:3313 IN DAKOTA COUNTY BECAUSE IT

1:08:34TOOK A LOT FOR ME TO HUMBLE

1:08:37MYSELF TO GO TO MARY'S PLACE.

1:08:39OKAY. AFTER BEING PUT OUT OF

1:08:43HOUSING DUE TO BEING A VICTIM OF

1:08:45DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. SO I KNOW

1:08:46THIS PLACE. I KNOW WHERE FOLKS

1:08:47ARE AT. AND THEN ANOTHER PART OF

1:08:58ME IS AILING BECAUSE IN 2022, I

1:09:01LOST MY LITTLE COUSIN MARY WHO

1:09:03HAD JUST GIVEN BIRTH, WHO WAS

1:09:05LIVING OUT ON THE STREETS, AND

1:09:06WAS IN A CAR WITH A FRIEND WITH

1:09:10THREE TIMES THE LETHAL DOSE OF

1:09:19FENTANYL INJECTED INTO HER. AND

1:09:22THE PERSON SHE WAS WITH -- YOU

1:09:26CANNOT INJECT THREE TIMES THE

1:09:30LETHAL DOSE OF FENTANYL INTO

1:09:32YOUR BODY. THAT'S WHERE I'M

1:09:34SITTING WITH THIS. I KNOW WHAT

1:09:37IT'S LIKE TO BE A SINGLE MOTHER,

1:09:39TO BE A VICTIM OF DESTIC

1:09:42VIOLENCE, TO BE DISPLACED

1:09:44BECAUSE OF SITUATIONS THAT

1:09:46HAPPENED THAT ARE BEYOND YOUR

1:09:47CONTROL AND NOW YOU HAVE TO MOVE

1:09:50AND YOUR SHOULDERS ARE PINNED

1:09:52AGAINST THE WALL AND SHELTERS

1:09:55ARE PACKED AND YOU DON'T WANT TO

1:09:56GO THROUGH THAT OR SEND YOUR

1:09:57KIDS THROUGH THAT AND YOU'RE

1:09:59HOPING THAT YOU CAN FIND THE

1:10:00NEXT BEST OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE

1:10:01YOU ARE STILL WORKING AND YOU DO

1:10:05STILL HAVE THINGS GOING FOR YOU.

1:10:06BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M

1:10:08LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT I LOST

1:10:13MY LITTLE COUSIN WHILE SHE WAS

1:10:14BATTLING WITH HOMELESSNESS IN

1:10:16THIS VERY SAME TYPE OF

1:10:17SITUATION. LIVING IN A C WITH

1:10:19SOMEONE WHOM SHE ASSUMED WAS A

1:10:22FRIEND. AND NOW SHE'S NO LONGER

1:10:28WITH US. AND HER CHILD IS BEING

1:10:32RAISED WITHOUT A MOMMA. SO I'M

1:10:34SITTING IN TWO PLACES HERE. AND

1:10:37YES, I GET IT. THE SAFE OUTDOOR

1:10:43WHERE INDIVIDUALS CAN PARK AND

1:10:44STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT WHERE IS

1:10:47THE GUARANTEE THAT SAFETY IS

1:10:49GOING TO LIVE THE? WHERE'S THE

1:10:51GUARANTEE? AND I KNOW THERE'S

1:10:53NOT GUARANTEES WITH EVERYTHING.

1:10:54BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND

1:10:58WHERE IS -- THERE'S 24-HOUR

1:11:00PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE CHECKING

1:11:02ON FOLKS. ARE PEOPLE VERIFYING

1:11:04THAT FOLKS' KIDS ARE THEIR KI?

1:11:07YOU KNOW. ARE WE GOING TO END UP

1:11:09WITH HAVING SITUATIONS WHERE PE

1:11:14CARS AND LEAVING TO GET OTHER

1:11:15FOLKS TO BRING THEM INTO THE

1:11:17CARS. THE CALLS I'M GETTING FROM

1:11:20CONSTITUENTS TOO IN MY WARD HAVE

1:11:22A LOT TO DO WITH RVs TT IS

1:11:24RUNNING AROUND HERE AND SEX AND

1:11:28DRUG TRAFFICKING THAT IS

1:11:29HAPPENING. IF THESE ARE GOING TO

1:11:31BE SAFE PLACES, I WANT THEM TO

1:11:33BE SAFE PLACES FOR PEOPLE

1:11:34REQUIRING SAFETY AND NOT GOING

1:11:37TO BE PLACES TO PREY ON FOLKS

1:11:39WHO ARE IN NEED OF SAFETY. LIKE

1:11:42WHO IS WEEDING AND SEEDING OUT

1:11:44THAT PROCE? I HAD A BRIEF

1:11:52CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER

1:11:53STEVENSON WITH RESPECT THIS.

1:11:56AND I JUST HAVE A LOT MORE

1:11:58QUESTIONS. I WILL VOTE TO MOVE

1:11:59THIS FORWARD TODAY. BUT I DO

1:12:05WANT TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION

1:12:07BECAUSE THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE

1:12:10JUST, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL

1:12:13INFORMATION PROVIDED. I DON'T

1:12:14WANT PEOPLE TO BE LIVING IN

1:12:16THEIR CARS AND USING AND THEN

1:12:17THEY GOTTA LEAVE THE PARKING LOT

1:12:19IN THE MORNING AND NOW THEY'RE

1:12:20UNDER THE INFLUENCE DRIVING

1:12:22BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH

1:12:24TIME TO SLEEP OFF WHATEVER THEY

1:12:26WERE UNDERNEATH THE INFLUENCE

1:12:28OF. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO, YOU

1:12:32KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE

1:12:34IT ABUSED. I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE

1:12:36REALLY GET THE HELP THAT THEY

1:12:38ARE SEEKING. AND I WANT SPACE TO

1:12:40BE CREATED FOR THA THE END.

1:12:43>> ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER

1:12:43CHAVEZ.

1:12:47WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ANSWER

1:12:50SOME OF THAT A LITTLE BI WILL

1:12:53THAT HELP? THANK YOU, COUNCIL

1:12:54MEMBER WARREN. A LOT WILL BE

1:12:57ADDRESSED. IT'S NOT IN THE

1:12:58ORDINANCE BUT IT'S IN THE PLAN

1:13:01THAT WILL BE REQUIRED AND

1:13:02REVIEWED BY STAFF. WHAT WE WILL

1:13:05DO AS AUTHORS IS MEET WITH YOU,

1:13:07OFFER A BRIEFING. TO MAKE SURE

1:13:09THAT WE AT LEAST PROVIDE AS MUCH

1:13:11INFORMATION TO THOSE QUESTIONS

1:13:12THAT YOU HAVE.

1:13:13>> THANK YOU.

1:13:16>> I WILL RECOGNIZE VICE CHAIR

1:13:16CHOWDHURY.

1:13:20>> THANK YOU, CHAIR OSMAN. I

1:13:23WANT TO JUST START OFF BY TAKING

1:13:25TIME TO THANK THE COMMUNITY

1:13:27MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN LONG

1:13:29ADVOCATING NOT ONLY FOR THIS

1:13:31POLICY BUT FOR THE CITY OF

1:13:33MINNEAPOLIS TO TAKE SOME

1:13:34LEADERSHIP IN ADDRESSING

1:13:36UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS AND

1:13:40HOMELESSNESS IN GENERAL. THE

1:13:41THING THAT IS REALLY STRIKING

1:13:43ABOUT THIS MOMENT IS WE'RE I A

1:13:45PLACE WHERE THE SAFETY NETS THAT

1:13:47WE RELIED ON FROM THE FEDERAL

1:13:49GOVERNMENT ARE DIMINISHING. AND

1:13:51I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT

1:13:54SAFETY NETS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE

1:13:55CURRENTLY HOMELESS, BUT THE

1:13:57SAFETY NETS THAT KEEP PEOPLE OUT

1:13:58OF HOMELESSNESS. AND THAT LEAVES

1:14:03US AS LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO PICK

1:14:04UP THE PIECES AND FIGURE OUT

1:14:06WAYS THAT WE CAN BE RESILIENT.

1:14:10AND THIS ISN'T SOMETHING, THIS

1:14:12POLICY ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS

1:14:14JUST BORNE A YEAR OR TWO AGO.

1:14:18THIS GOES BACK ALL THE WAY TO

1:14:212022. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AND

1:14:22I WERE TALKING ABOUT A SAFE

1:14:25OUTDOOR SPACE. SAFE PARKING

1:14:27MODE WHEN HE FIRST GOT ELECTED

1:14:28AND I WAS A POLICY AIDE IN HIS

1:14:31OFFICE. AND IT'S BEEN YEAR AFTER

1:14:33YEAR WORK TO TRY TO GET IT AT

1:14:35THE PLA THAT WE ARE, AND

1:14:39REALLY UNDERSTAND T SAFE BAY

1:14:40MODEL IN DULUTH. I'M REALLY

1:14:42PROUD THAT OUR CITY STAFF TOOK

1:14:45GREAT, GREAT EFFORTS TO RESEARCH

1:14:47THE WORK THAT WAS DONE IN DULUTH

1:14:49AND THE WORK THAT WAS DONE IN

1:14:51DENVER TO MODEL THE ZONING

1:14:52POLICY. AND TN TO GIVE US A

1:14:55BASELINE TO START OUR BUSINESS

1:14:56LICENSING.O WE AS A GOVERNMENT

1:14:59ARE BEING RESPONSIBLE IN HOW

1:15:05WE'RE REGULATING. BUT I DO WANT

1:15:07TO GROUND US IN SOME OF THE

1:15:08EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS THIS DOES

1:15:10WORK BASED OFF OF THE MODELS

1:15:13THAT CURRENTLY EXIST. DULUTH

1:15:16SAFE BAY PARKING PROGRAM HAS

1:15:20DEMONSTRATED CLEAR AND

1:15:21QUANTIFIABLE OUTCOMES. DURING A

1:15:24SINGLE RECENT OPERATING SYSTEM,

1:15:26THE PROGRAM SERVED OVER 164

1:15:29INDIVIDUALS AND HELPED 17 PEOPLE

1:15:31TRANSITION INTO PERMANENT

1:15:32HOUSING. REPRESENTING A

1:15:34MEANINGFUL HOUSING PLACEMENT

1:15:35RATE FOR A SHORT-TERM

1:15:38LOW-BARRIER INTERVENTION. THE

1:15:42SITE TYPICALLY ACCOMMODATES

1:15:45AROUND 10 VEHICLES NIGHTLY

1:15:49PROVIDING PREDICTABLE STABLE

1:15:52SHELTER CAPACITY WITHOUT

1:15:54REQUIRING NEW CONSTRUCTION.

1:15:55THAT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL.

1:15:57BUILDING A WHOLE SHELTER OR EVEN

1:15:59GETTING A WHOLE SLTER IS A

1:16:01HUGE LIFT. AND THIS ALLOWS US TO

1:16:05USE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE TO

1:16:07HONESTLY HAVE A LOW-COST MODEL

1:16:10TO GET PEOPLE WRAP AROUND

1:16:11SERVICES IN A SPACE THAT'S

1:16:13MANAGED, IN A SPACE THAT'S

1:16:15CLEAN, IN A SPACE THAT CAN

1:16:18CREATE COMMUNITY AND FEEL SAFE.

1:16:20BECAUSE SLEEPING IN YOUR CAR,

1:16:22IT'S NOT AN EASY THING. THE

1:16:24THINGS THAT I HAVE HEA FROM

1:16:28COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN MY

1:16:29NEIGHBORHOODS WHO NOTICE THEIR

1:16:30NEIGHBORS SLEEPING IN THEIR CAR

1:16:32IS THAT THEY TRY REALLY HARD TO

1:16:34GET UP EVERY SINGLE DAY WITH

1:16:35WHAT THEY HAVE AND GO TO WORK

1:16:37AND MAKE A LIFE FOR THEM. THEY

1:16:39EVEN HAVE KIDS THAT THEY'RE

1:16:41LOOKING AFTER MIGHT NOT HAVE

1:16:42CUSTODY OVER BECAUSE THEY DON'T

1:16:45TO BE A GOOD PARENT. B

1:16:48ROUTINELY, THEY GET A KNOCK ON

1:16:51THEIR WINDOW, USUALLY FROM A

1:16:53POLICE OFFICER WHO IS DOING

1:16:54THEIR JOB BECAUSE THERE REALLY

1:16:56IST ANOTHER PLACE FOR THEM TO

1:16:57DIRECT THEM SAYING YOU HAVE TO

1:17:01MOVE ALONG AND GO TO THE NEXT

1:17:02PLACE. AND THEN WE HAVE A HUGE

1:17:04GAP. WE'RE MISSING, WE'RE JUST

1:17:05SO MISSING THE OPPORTUNITY TO

1:17:07CATCH PEOPLE IN A MOMENT WHERE

1:17:09THEY ARE ALREADY TRYING TO FIND

1:17:11STABILITY AND PROVIDE SERVICES.

1:17:14AND TO MY COLLEAGUES WHO MAY

1:17:16FEEL A LITTLE APPREHENSIVE ABOUT

1:17:20THIS RIGHT NOW, I'LL ALSO SHARE

1:17:24SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE

1:17:26PUBLICAFETY DATA THAT ALSO

1:17:28STRENGTHENS THIS CASE. OVER

1:17:29ROUGHLY SIX MONTHS OF OPERATION,

1:17:32ONLY EIGHT POLICE CALLS WERE

1:17:35RECORDED AT THE SITE IN DULUTH,

1:17:38INCLUDING JUST TWO MEDICAL CALLS

1:17:41INDICATING LOW INCIDENT RATES

1:17:43COMPARED TO ENCAMPMENTS OR

1:17:44PEOPLE WHO ARE FORCED TO SLEEP

1:17:46OUTSIDE. THISUPPORTS BROADER

1:17:49RESEARCH SHOWING THAT SANCTIONED

1:17:50SAFE PARKING SITES REDUCE

1:17:53EXPOSURE TO CRIME, HARASSMENT,

1:17:56AND DISPLACEMENT, WHILE

1:18:03IMPROVING NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I

1:18:04WOUL JUST SAY IT'S A WHOLE LOT

1:18:07BETTER THAN PEOPLE HAVING TO GO

1:18:11OUT AND I'M HOMELESS AND I HAVE

1:18:13TO MAKE MY PLAN NIGHT AFTER

1:18:15NIGHT. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO

1:18:17HAVING CONVERSIONS WITH THE

1:18:18COLLEAGUES WHO WANT TO DIG IN TO

1:18:20THE FURTHER DETAILS. I THINK

1:18:22THIS IS A REALLY STRONG

1:18:23EVIDENCE-BASED MODEL. AND

1:18:24MINNEAPOLIS WILL CERTAINLYE A

1:18:27LEADER BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE

1:18:29ACTUALLY LAYERING IN MORE

1:18:32REGULATION COMPARED TO OTHER

1:18:33JURISDICTIONS. BUT WE'RE NOT

1:18:34GOING TO BEHE FIRST ONES TO DO

1:18:35THIS. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME

1:18:38STED MODELS AND BUILD

1:18:40SOMETHING OUT THAT'S REALLY

1:18:42MEANINGFUL TO THIS COMMUNITY. A

1:18:46WERE AT IN DECEMBER OF 2023.

1:18:49BITTER COLD WINTER. WE HAD SO

1:18:50MANY OF OUR UNHOUSED COMMUNITY

1:18:53COME TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR A

1:18:56BUDGET. THEY WERE JUST SO SCARED

1:18:59BECAUSE THE ENCAMPMENT THAT THEY

1:19:01WERE STAYING AT WAS GOING TO BE

1:19:03BRUTALLY CLOSED WITHOUT A PLAN

1:19:04FOR THEM TO GO. A THAT STORY

1:19:09STILL STICKS WITH ME AND IT

1:19:11SHOULD STICK WITH THIS

1:19:12ENTERPRISE BECSE IT JUST

1:19:13SHOWED HOW WE WEREN'T PRODING

1:19:17SAFETY OR RESILIENCY TO THIS

1:19:19COMMUNITY OR A CLEAR PLAN FOR

1:19:20THE FUTURE THAT DOESN'T LEAD TO

1:19:21THE OUTCOMES THAT WE HAVE

1:19:24CURRENTLY. AND THE LAST THING

1:19:25I'LL SAY IS I THINK THIS

1:19:28PROVIDES A TOOL TO ADDRESS

1:19:31HOMELESSNESS THAT DOESN'T RELY

1:19:32ON POLICING AND MOVING PEOPLE

1:19:35AROUND. I DO THINK AS A CITY, WE

1:19:37HAVE GROWN VERY COMFORTABLE IN

1:19:40RELYING ON POLICING TO ADDRESS

1:19:41HOMELESSNESS. AND IT'S NOT

1:19:44GETTING TO THE ROOT CAUSE. WHAT

1:19:47HELPS PPLE IS GET TO HOUSING.

1:19:48AND THIS IS THE STEP, EARLY

1:19:51INTERVENTION TO GETTING A SAFE

1:19:53PLACE TO LIVE AND HAVE A

1:19:55FULFILLED LIFE AND HOPEFULLY

1:19:57NEVER HAVING TO SLEEP IN THEIR

1:19:58CAR AGAIN.

1:19:59>> I WIL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL

1:20:00MEMBER SHAFFER.

1:20:01>> THANK YOU, CHAIR OSMAN. I DO

1:20:03HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR

1:20:04THE THORS. THE FIRST ONE IS

1:20:08WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE FINANCIAL

1:20:11MODEL OF THIS KIND OF SAFE

1:20:11PARKING SPACE?

1:20:17>> I CAN TRY ANSWERING THAT. SO

1:20:19THE COST OF ESTABLISHING AND

1:20:20OPERATING A SAFE PARKING SITE

1:20:21WILL BE ON THE PROVIDER. SO THEY

1:20:23WILL DECIDE HOW MUCH IT WILL

1:20:25COST. WE DID, HOWEVER, IN THE

1:20:28PAST FISCALEAR 25 PASSED A

1:20:32$100,000 BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR

1:20:33THIS WHICH WAS USED FOR SAFE

1:20:35PARKING SPACE PROGRAM. I IMAGINE

1:20:37THAT MONEY NO LONGER EXISTS AS

1:20:40IT WAS PROBABLY SPENT ELSEWHERE.

1:20:42SO THERE IS NO ALLOCATED

1:20:43RESOURCES HERE. AND IT WILL BE

1:20:45UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL PRIDER.

1:20:47>> I DO SEE IN YOUR PRESENTATION

1:20:49THAT YOU MET WITH SOME

1:20:51STAKEHOLDERS WHO MIGHT BE

1:20:52INTERESTED IN THIS IDEA. DID

1:20:54THEY SHARE ANY INFORMION?

1:20:55>> THERE WASN'T A PARTICULAR

1:20:57INFORMATION OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD

1:20:59COST. NO.

1:20:59>>'M JUST NOTICING FROM YOUR

1:21:01LIST. I'LL READ SOME OF THEM.

1:21:04ONE IS PERMANENT RESTROOMS. NOT

1:21:07PORTA-POTTIES. WATER. STAFF TO

1:21:08MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO

1:21:10DRINKING OR DRUGS. AND THEN

1:21:12SEVERAL OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ON

1:21:16THERE. SO THERE REALLY HASN'T

1:21:17BEEN A REALISTIC ASSESSMENT OF

1:21:20HOW MUCH SOMETNG LIK THIS

1:21:21WOULD COST FROM OTHER AREAS THAT

1:21:22YOU LOOKED AT?

1:21:24>> WE DO HAVE A PAR REPORT ABOUT

1:21:26HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST IN OTHER

1:21:28CITIES. WE LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS,

1:21:30THE COST WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

1:21:32>> OKAY. I JUST PULLED UP

1:21:34DENVER. AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT

1:21:37THAT PROJECT WAS STARTED WITH

1:21:39ARPA COVID MONEY. AND THIS IS

1:21:41JUST A SIMPLE ARTICLE I PULLED

1:21:43UP. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS

1:21:45TOTALLY ACRATE. BUT IT SAYS

1:21:49THEY CEASED OPERATIONS IN

1:21:51DECEMBER 31ST, IN 2024.

1:21:52>> YES, THAT IS CORRECT. THE

1:21:54DENVER ONE NO LONGER EXISTS. BUT

1:21:55THE DULUTH ONE DOES.

1:21:57>> AND IS IT CORRECT THAT DUTH

1:22:01IS A SEASONAL OPERATION?

1:22:02>> THAT IS CORRECT.

1:22:03>> I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT

1:22:05SEASONALITY IN THIS ONE. COULD

1:22:07YOU SPEAK TO HOW WOULD YOU

1:22:09ENFORCE CARS FROM IDLING? >> CAE

1:22:15UNDER IN ORDINANCE IF THERE ARE

1:22:17CONCERNS ABO COLD WEATHER

1:22:18OPTIONS, THAT WOULD BE IN THE

1:22:19MANAGEMENT AND SAFETY PLAN.

1:22:21>> OKAY. CARS IDLING IN THE

1:22:23WINTER ALL NIGHT LONG DOESN'T S

1:22:25GOALS. I'M JUST ASKING THE

1:22:28QUESTION HERE. SO I DON'T THINK

1:22:36THAT THIS IS -- I APPRECIATE THE

1:22:37HARD WORK. BUT I DON'T THINK

1:22:39THIS IS A REALISTIC LIFT FOR ANY

1:22:41NONPROFI IS THERE ANY STATE OR

1:22:45COUNTY FUNDING THAT YOU'RE AWARE

1:22:47OF THAT WOULD SUPPORT A

1:22:48DIRECTION LIKE THIS AS OF YET?

1:22:50>> I WOULD HOPE .

1:22:58>> COUNCIL MEMBER SHAFFER, I TH

1:23:04HAVE ENCOUNTERED IN OUR

1:23:04DISCUSSIONS WITH PROVIDERS AND

1:23:06THEN ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE

1:23:09ALLOCATION THAT WE MADE FOR

1:23:11FUNDING IS IT'S A CHICKEN AND

1:23:15THE EGG SITUATION. ACTUALLY, I

1:23:17THINK IT'S MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD

1:23:18THAN THAT. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE

1:23:20ZONING OR THE LICENSING FOR

1:23:21SOMETHING TO BE REAL,

1:23:23INDIVIDUALS WANTING TO PUT

1:23:25FORWARD CAPITAL OR EVEN US

1:23:27ADVOCATING TO THE STATE

1:23:29LEGISLATURE, HENNEPIN COUNTY, OR

1:23:30I GUESS OUR BUDGET AMENDMENT

1:23:32FULLY REALIZING THAT $100,000,

1:23:35IT KIND OF FALLS APART BECAUSE

1:23:37YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO HAVE THE

1:23:38LAWS PASSED AND THE PARAMETERS

1:23:40SET IN ORDER FOR U TO BUILD A

1:23:42SAFE OUTDOOR PROGRAM.

1:23:43>> NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I

1:23:45APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT

1:23:46YOU'VE DONE. BUT AT THIS POINT

1:23:47IN TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO BE

1:23:49ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT JUST

1:23:51BECAUSE WE'RE IN A SITUATION

1:23:52WE'RE CUTTING FULL-TIME

1:23:54EMPLOYEES HERE AT THE CITY

1:23:55ALREADY. AND SO IF WE'RE PASSING

1:23:58LEGISLATION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE

1:23:59NONPROFITS LINED UP WITH FUNDING

1:24:00SOURCES TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO

1:24:02DO IS, WE DON'T HAVE STAFFING

1:24:06ON OUR OWN CY SITE TO BE ABLE

1:24:08TO DO THIS AT THIS POINT IN

1:24:10TIME. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS

1:24:12PRATURE. THANK YOU.

1:24:17>> COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI.

1:24:18>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR.

1:24:20CHAIR. JUST WANT TO ADDRESS A

1:24:21COUPLE OF THINGS HERE. TO THE

1:24:24FIRST POINT ABOUT CARS BEING

1:24:28ALLOWED TODLE IN SAFE PARKING

1:24:32FACILITIES IN THESE LOTS. AND

1:24:36THAT'S EXACTLY THE FUNCTION OF

1:24:38THESE LOTS. THEY ARE PLACES THAT

1:24:39ARE CENTRALIZED. THAT HAVE A

1:24:42MANAGED SECURITY PLAN. THAT HAVE

1:24:45A MANAG SECURITY, WITH

1:24:47BATHROOMS ON SITE, HYGIENE ON

1:24:48SITE. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS

1:24:51ENTIRE MODEL WORK. AND THE

1:24:55PROVISION OF SOCIAL SERVICES IN

1:24:56ADDITION TO SAFE REGULATED SPACE

1:24:58IS A PART OF WHAT MAKES THIS

1:25:00MODEL SUCCEED AND HAS MADE IT

1:25:03SUCCEED IN DULUTH AS WELL. IN

1:25:08TERMS OF COST -- OH, THE POINT I

1:25:11WAS GOING T MAKE ABOUT CARS

1:25:13IDLING IS THE REALITY IS PEOPLE

1:25:14ARE LIVING IN THEIR CAR RIGHT

1:25:16NOW. AND WHETHER THOSE CARS ARE

1:25:17IDLING IN A PARKING LOT OR O A

1:25:20NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, THEY ARE

1:25:22IDLING BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE

1:25:23NOWHERE ELSE TO LIVE. THIS IN

1:25:26TERMS OF CARBON EMISSIONS, THIS

1:25:28IS NEUTRAL. WE'RE JUST MOVING

1:25:29THEM FROM ONE PART OF THE CITY

1:25:31TO A NEXT. WOU I LO LOVE TO

1:25:38LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE

1:25:39PEOPLE -- YEAH, ABSOLUTELY I'D

1:25:41LOVE THAT. BUT UNFORTUNATELY,

1:25:44HOMELESSNESS IS A REALITY IN OUR

1:25:46COMMUNITY. AND IS SOMETHING WE

1:25:47SHOULD ALL BE WORKING TO

1:25:50ELIMINATE, CERTAINLY. BUT I

1:25:52THINK THAT THE TRUTH OF THE

1:25:53MATTER IS PPLE LIVE IN THEIR

1:25:54CARS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE

1:25:56NOWHERE ELSE TO GO. AND HELPING

1:26:00THEM MOVE THROUGH THE CONTINUUM

1:26:02OF CARE AND HOUSING IN THE

1:26:05SAFEST WAY POSSIBLE, IN THE MOST

1:26:08HUMANE WAY POSSIBLE I BELIEVE IS

1:26:09A SHARED GOAL. IN TERMS OF COST,

1:26:13THE DULUTH SAFE BAY PROGRAM

1:26:15COSTS ABOUT $800 A DAY TO

1:26:16OPERATE. AND LOCATIONS, YOU

1:26:21NEGOTIATION WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT

1:26:24LOCATIONS THAT ARE BUILDING

1:26:25BRAND NEW FACILITIES TO

1:26:26ACCOMMODATE THIS. THAT'S BEEN

1:26:28MENTIONED A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES.

1:26:30THE PARKING STRUCTURE THAT IS A

1:26:33PART OF THIS POLICY THAT IS

1:26:36REGUTED IN A LICENSE CAN'T BE

1:26:38BUILT BRAND NEW. IT HAS TO BE AN

1:26:41EXTING STRUCTURE THAT ALREADY

1:26:42EXISTS. THAT WAY THE TYPES OF

1:26:45CILITIES WE'D REALLY BE

1:26:46LOOKING AT ARE PLACES LIKE

1:26:47CHURCHES THAT HAVE RESTROOMS ON

1:26:50SITE. I KNOW THAT THE CITY IN

1:26:51THE PAST AND CERTAINLY AS

1:26:54COUNCIL MEMBER, I'VE BEEN

1:26:58APPROACHED BY RELIGIOUS

1:26:59ORGANIZATIONS. IN PARTICULAR

1:27:01CHURCHES ACROSS SOUTH

1:27:03MINNEAPOLIS THAT HAVE AN

1:27:05INTEREST IN BEING A PART OF THE

1:27:07SOLUTION. HAVE AN INTEREST IN

1:27:10PROVIDING RESTROOMS, THEIR

1:27:11SPACE, THEIR PARKING LOTS TO BE

1:27:12A PART OF THE SOLUTION HERE. AND

1:27:15THERE'S BEEN NO REGULATORY

1:27:16FRAMEWORK TO MAKE THAT A

1:27:18REALITY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE

1:27:18TRYING TO ADDRESS RE TODAY.

1:27:26AND I'LL ALSO MENTION THAT

1:27:27ESTIMATED ART UP AND OPERATION

1:27:29COSTS IN 2023 WHEN WE LOOKED AT

1:27:35THIS WAS ABOUT $150,000 FOR A

1:27:38SPACE THAT ACCOMMODATED ABOUT

1:27:40250 PEOPLE LIVING IN THEIR

1:27:42VEHICLES. IN TERMS OF HOW WE

1:27:46SPEND A LOT OF OTHER MONEY, THIS

1:27:48IS A PRETTY EFFECTIVE USE OF

1:27:51DOLLARS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

1:27:54>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT, I'LL

1:27:57RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ.

1:27:59>> THANK YOU, CHAIR OSMAN. I

1:28:01ALSO DID WANT IT SAY THAT SAFE

1:28:04BAY, THE PROGRAM IN DULUTH

1:28:05OPERATES MOSTLY ON GRANTS AND

1:28:07DONATIONS. AND THIS ORDINANCE

1:28:09DOES NOT REQUIRE THE CITY PAYING

1:28:10ANYTHING. THANK YOU.

1:28:13>> COUNCIL MEMBER SHAFFER.

1:28:13>> YEAH. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE

1:28:16THOSE ANSWERS TO MY ESTIONS. I

1:28:17REALLY DO. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE

1:28:19ONE OTHER COMMENT AND THAT IS

1:28:20THAT I DO NOT THINK THE

1:28:25RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES

1:28:27AROUND AN IDLING PARKING LOT ALL

1:28:29NIGHT LONG ARE GOING TO BE HAPPY

1:28:32WITH EMISSIONS ALL NIGHT LONG.

1:28:34SO FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE IN THE

1:28:36AREA AND VICINITY OF THESE SAFE

1:28:37SPACES. THANK YOU.

1:28:41>> OKAY. SEEINGO ONE ELSE --

1:28:46>> APOLOGIES, CHAIR. IF I COULD

1:28:49JUST GET CLARITY ON THE MOTION.

1:28:51BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE IS AN

1:28:53AMENDMENT IN THE PACKET BEFORE

1:28:55YOU. AND I'M WONDERING WHETHER

1:28:56SOMEONE WAS GOING TO MOVE THAT

1:28:58AMENDMENT.

1:28:59>> YEAH. CNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ.

1:29:00>> YEAH. IF I COU JUST MOVE IT

1:29:05AS AMENDED THAT WAY WE'RE

1:29:06JUST --

1:29:07>> MOVING ITEM 15 AS WELL.

1:29:09>> YES.

1:29:09>> I SEE A LIST HERE. COUNCIL

1:29:12MEMBER WARREN.

1:29:13>> I'M SORRY, CAN YOU ADD

1:29:16CLARITY ON THAT AMENDMENT.

1:29:18>> YEAH.

1:29:19>> TURN ON YOUR MIC.

1:29:21>> SO JUST BASICALLY AN

1:29:23AMENDMENT THAT ADDS AN ANNUAL

1:29:24PUBLIC OUTCOME REPORT REQUIRES

1:29:25ON THE PROVIDER.

1:29:26>> OKAY. SO MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE

1:29:34RAISED SOME REALLY IMPORTANT

1:29:35QUESTIONS. SO IS THIS PROGRAM

1:29:38GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS

1:29:42SEASON? AND AGAIN, WE'RE TALKI

1:29:44ABOUT COST AND COST

1:29:51EFFECTIVENESS HERE WITH THIS

1:29:53BEING OFFERED IN CHURCH PARKING

1:29:55LOTS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY

1:29:59BE. THEN IN HING POLICE

1:30:02AVAILABLE AND ALL KINDS OF

1:30:02THINGS LIKE THAT, I MEAN, OUR

1:30:05POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY

1:30:06OVER BUDGET. SO WHO ARE WE

1:30:10DESIGNATING TO BE ASSIGNED TO

1:30:12SAID PARKING LOTS TO ENSURE THAT

1:30:15THESE INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW,

1:30:20INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE TAKING UP

1:30:22TEMPORARY RESIDENCYOR THE

1:30:23NIGHT OR THE DAY OR WHATEVER THE

1:30:25SITUATION IS, ARE GOING TO BE

1:30:29KEPT SAFE. AND THEN ANOTHER

1:30:31QUESTION THAT I HAVE AROUND THIS

1:30:35IS AUTOMOBILE INSURANCE AND

1:30:38LIABILITY. ARE PEOE, YOU KNOW,

1:30:41BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I LOST MY

1:30:44COUSIN IN A CAR. AND I'M JUST

1:30:48HAVING A VERY HARD TIME GETTING

1:30:52PAST THAT. WHO IS ULTIMATELY

1:30:54LIABLE AND RESPONSIBLE? BECAUSE

1:30:56I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT ON, YOU

1:31:00KNOW, LOVING ARMS CHURCH. YOU

1:31:01SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? FOR SAID

1:31:04INDIVIDUAL NOW BEING FOUND

1:31:06DECEASED IN SAID CAR, YOU KNOW.

1:31:08I WANT TO MAK SURE THAT

1:31:12INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE THEN MADE

1:31:15LIABLE BEHIND WHATEVER ACTIONS

1:31:17THAT PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING AND

1:31:18THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN

1:31:22THESE VEHICLES BECAUSE EVERY

1:31:24CLOSED EYE AIN'T SLEEP. YOU

1:31:27KNOW. SO I'M JUST ULTRA

1:31:28CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND I JUST

1:31:30HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS.O I JUST

1:31:31NEED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. PUT

1:31:33IT ON THE RECORD. THE NEEDLE IS

1:31:35THERE ON THE RECORD. JUST LET ME

1:31:36JUST SAY THAT. THE END.

1:31:39>> YUP. SO ON SITE STAFF ARE

1:31:43REQUIRED DURING ALL HOURS OF

1:31:45OPERATION. SO THAT'S IN HOPES OF

1:31:47MITIGATING A LOT OF THE CONCERNS

1:31:48THAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP. AND

1:31:50THEN THERE IS A PUBLIC LIABILITY

1:31:51INSURANCE REQUIREMENT UNDER THE

1:31:53ORDINANCE.

1:31:54>> THE PUBLIC LIABILITY

1:31:56INSURANCE REQUIREMENT IS FOR THE

1:31:59VEHICLE OWNER OR FOR THE PARKING

1:32:00LOT OWNER?

1:32:02>> FOR THE PARKING LOT OWNER,

1:32:04WHICH WOULD BE THE OPERATOR OF

1:32:06THE LICENSE.

1:32:09>> SO THEN THE VEHICLE OWNER,

1:32:11OWNER OF THE VEHICLE,S NOT

1:32:16REQUIRED TO CAR INSURANCE OF

1:32:21LIABILITY UNDERNEATH MINNESOTA

1:32:21STATE LAWS AND STATUTES IN ORDER

1:32:24TO BE PARKED HERE ON THIS THING?

1:32:26BECAUSE I'M GNG TO TELL YOU

1:32:27WHAT, WHEN YOU ARE MAKING

1:32:30SACRIFICES, A LOT OF TIMES THE

1:32:31FIRST THINGS TO GO IS THAT AUTO

1:32:33INSURANCE. AND YOUE NOT PAYING

1:32:38THAT. THAT'S NOT THE FST BILL

1:32:39THAT YOU'RE SAYING LET ME PAY MY

1:32:41AUTO INSURANCE. SO I MEAN, I'M

1:32:44JUST THINKING ABOUT THE

1:32:47LIABILITY ISSS THAT ARE

1:32:49ASSOCIATED WITH PEOPLE BEING

1:32:51INJURED IN VEHICLES OR AROUND

1:32:55VEHICLES THAT GOES UNDERNEATH

1:32:56INDIVIDUALS' LIABILITY

1:32:58INSURANCE. MINNESOTA IS A NO

1:32:59FAULT STATE. LET'S PUT IT OUT

1:33:01THERE. WE HAVE TO DISCUSS IT IN

1:33:02THAT FASHION.

1:33:06>> WHAT I'LL SAY IS THE

1:33:07LIABILITY INSURANCE IS FOR THE

1:33:09PROVIDER BASED ON MINNESOTA

1:33:11STATE LAW. PEOPLE REQUIRED TO

1:33:12HAVE INSURANCE ANYWAYS, SO THAT

1:33:14WOULD BE ADDRESSED THERE.

1:33:16>> BUT THEN THEY WOULD BE

1:33:18ASSUMING LIABILITY FOR RESIDENCY

1:33:21FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE NOW

1:33:23TAKEN UP RESIDENCY THAT'S GOTTA

1:33:25BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF

1:33:26INSURANCE. SO THEN IT WOULD BE

1:33:28THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE INDIV

1:33:32HAVE VERIFIABLE INSURANCE WHEN

1:33:33THEY CHECK IN TO SAID PARKING

1:33:36LOT. YOU GOTTA GIVE, I MEAN,

1:33:38THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING MORE

1:33:40DUG IN TO THIS.

1:33:42SOMETHING'S NOT -- THE MATH

1:33:44AIN'T MATHING.

1:33:48>> VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

1:33:49>> THANK YOU. I THINK ONE THING

1:33:54THAT WE LOOKED AT AT THE MODEL

1:33:58WAS DULUTH DOESN'T REQUIRE PROOF

1:34:01OF OWNERSHIP OF INSURANCE ON

1:34:02VEHICLES. AND THE THING THAT WE

1:34:06HAVE TO WEIGH OUT HERE IS THE

1:34:08TYPE OF BURDEN THAT WE'RE TRYIN

1:34:11TO PLACE ON PEOPLE EXPERIENCING

1:34:13HOMELESSNESS. WE'RE TRYING TO

1:34:14CREATE SOMEWHAT OF A LOWER

1:34:16BARRIER THRESHOLD FOR PEOPLE TO

1:34:18ACCESS THIS TYPE OF SERVICE. I

1:34:21THINKOOKING AT THE 911 CALL

1:34:24LEVELS AND THE INCIDENT CALL

1:34:27LEVELS IN DULUTH AS BEING VERY

1:34:29LOW IS A GOOD PLACEOR US TO

1:34:31SEE HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN

1:34:33MANAGED. I APPRECIATE THAT WE

1:34:36PUT FLEXIBILITY FOR THEROVIDER

1:34:40TO TOOL OUT WHAT A SECURITY PLAN

1:34:42LOOKS LIKE. AND APPRECIATE THAT

1:34:44THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TWO

1:34:47VELS OF CLEARANCE. YOU HAVE TO

1:34:48MEET THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS,

1:34:50FIRST AND FOREMOST. AND THEN THE

1:34:54FINDINGS THAT REQUIRE PROOF THAT

1:34:56IT'S NOT GOING TO BE INJURIOUS

1:34:58TO THE HEALTH OR WELLBEING OF

1:35:01ANYONE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

1:35:04BUT THE THERE'S BUSINESS

1:35:05LICENSING. OUR TEAM GOES THROUGH

1:35:08GREAT LENGTHS IN BUSINESS

1:35:09LICENSING TO MAKE SURE THAT

1:35:10SECURITY PLAN IS TIGHT. AND IT

1:35:12HAS TO GO THROUGH THE REVIEW OF

1:35:13THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WITH A

1:35:15LOT OF OUR -- ALL OF OUR LIQUOR

1:35:19LICENSES AND LIQUOR LICENSE

1:35:21RENEWALS. SO THERE'S JUST

1:35:22MULTIPLE LAYERS TO HAVE THIS

1:35:23SAFETY CONVERSATION. AND ME

1:35:25PERSONALLY, I LIKE THE IDEA OF

1:35:26SEASONALITY. HOWEVER, WE WANT IT

1:35:30MAKE SURE THAT THIS CAN BE A

1:35:32REALITY FOR A PROVIDER THAT WAN

1:35:39ORGANIZATION THAT THEY'VE DONE

1:35:40FROM FUNDRAISING OR THEY GOT

1:35:42THROUGH A GRANT. WE WANT TO MAKE

1:35:45SURE THEY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY

1:35:46TO DECIDE THE TYPE OF PROGRAM

1:35:48THAT'S REALISTIC FOR THEM. MAYBE

1:35:50THEY WANT TO DO TEE MONTHS OUT

1:35:52OF THE YEAR VERSUS SIX MONTHS.

1:35:54MAYBE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN DO

1:35:56EIGHT MONTHS AS A WHOLE. WE WANT

1:35:57TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THEM

1:35:59THE FXIBILITY TO DO SO.

1:36:02BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY,

1:36:06THEY'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE TO

1:36:09CLIENTS. WE'RE OFFERING THEM A

1:36:11BUSINESS LICENSE IN THE SAME WAY

1:36:13THAT WE DON'T DETER FLEXIBILITY

1:36:17IN OTHER BUSINESSES TO DECIDE

1:36:18HOW THEY'LL OPERATE. WE'RE DOING

1:36:19THE SAME THING HERE SO THERE CAN

1:36:21BE SOMETHING SUCCESSFUL. AND I

1:36:22JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT.

1:36:23>> ALL RIGHT. I REALLY WANT TO

1:36:28TALK BUT I WANT IT ADD SOMETHING

1:36:30RIGHT NOW IN REALITY THAT WE

1:36:32LIVE IN. COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND

1:36:33THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING

1:36:36RAISED ABOUT SAFETY INSURANCE,

1:36:38LIABILITY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

1:36:39BUT WHY ARE WE NOT RAISING THOSE

1:36:41QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE

1:36:43PEOPLE SLEEPING UNDER THE BRIDGE

1:36:45AND WE IGNORE THEM. PEOPLE ARE

1:36:47DYING NOW IN BIG NUMBERS. I KNOW

1:36:49FOR SURE IN THE WINTER BEING

1:36:52SLEEPING OUTSIDE, SLEEPING IN

1:36:54THE CAR IS BETTER THAN SLEEPING

1:36:56OUTSIDE. I HAVE STORIES TO TELL

1:37:02TWO YOUNG MEN DIED UER THE

1:37:05BRIDGE. IN THAT BIG TRAFFIC,

1:37:07SOMEONE GOT HIT 30 FEET. LOST

1:37:09HIS LIFE. SOMEONE ONHILLIPS

1:37:12WEST, WHILE SLEEPING IN THE

1:37:16CITY-OWNED LOT, OVERDOSED AND

1:37:18NARCAN WAS FROZEN. NARCAN WAS

1:37:22FROZEN BECAUSE THE WEATHER WAS

1:37:25NEGATIVE 10 DEGREES. I'M NOT

1:37:27SAYING THIS IS A PERFECT

1:37:28SOLUTION. BUT IT'S BETTER THAN

1:37:30WE HAVE. IF WE ARE NOT RAISING

1:37:32THOSE QUESTIONS, I FEE LIKE WE

1:37:34SHOULD. WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO

1:37:36IGNORE. WE MIGHT NOT HAVE A

1:37:45PERMIT TO STAY UNDER THE BRIDGE.

1:37:51DEALING WITH A LOT OF

1:37:54ADDICTIONS, ENCAMPMENTS IN THIS

1:37:55AREA, I'M THE ONE HAVING THE

1:37:57CONVERSATION GOING TO PEOPLE

1:37:58THAT ARE LOSING THEIR LIVES.

1:38:00TRYING TO FIND A WAY FOR THE

1:38:02ADMINISTRATION TO WORK WITH MY

1:38:03OFFICE OR THE COUNTY OR THE

1:38:06STATE TO SAY THIS IS NOT A

1:38:08LIVABLE CONDITION. PEOPLE'S

1:38:09LIVES ARE IN DANGER. NOT JUST

1:38:10THE FOLKS THAT ARE STAYING

1:38:12THERE, BUT ALSO RESIDENTS AND

1:38:14BUSINESSES SURROUNDING. I'M JUST

1:38:15SAYING THOSE QUESTIONS ARE BEI

1:38:18RAISED RIGHT NOW. SHOULD BE

1:38:21RAISED IN THIS CONDITION WE'RE

1:38:22IN. I KNOW THIS IS NOT A PERFECT

1:38:24SOLUTI. BUT EVEN HAVING 10

1:38:29PEOPLE FIND USEFUL FOR THIS IS

1:38:31BETTER THAN NOT HAVING IT. I'LL

1:38:33JUST LEAVE IT THERE. I'LL

1:38:34RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ

1:38:35TO MAKE A CORRECTION.

1:38:37>> THANKS, COUNCIL VICE

1:38:39PRESIDENT AND CHAIR OSMAN. I

1:38:41JUST WANT TO CLARI THE

1:38:43AMENDMENT IS ACTUALLY FOR

1:38:44LICENSING OFFICIALS TO FILE A

1:38:46PUBLIC OUTCOMES REPORT TO PROPER

1:38:49COMMITTEE, MEANING THIS O,

1:38:50DETAILING THE USAGE OF SAFE

1:38:52OUTDOOR PARKING FACILITIES AND

1:38:55HOUSING OUTCOMES OF PARTICIPANTS

1:38:56ARE SAFE OUTDOOR PARKING

1:38:58FACILITIES. SO THEY WILL TAKE

1:39:00THAT INFORMATION FROM THE

1:39:02PROVIDERS.

1:39:02>> ALL RIGHT. SEEING N FURTHER

1:39:06DISCUSSION, I WILL- COUNCIL

1:39:08MEMBER CHAVEZ MOVE BOTH

1:39:09ORDINANCE AT THIS TIME. ITEM 3

1:39:10AND 15. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY

1:39:15AYE.

1:39:16>> AYE.

1:39:16>> AND THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

1:39:19>> NAY.

1:39:22>> THE NIES HAVE IT AND THE

1:39:27MOTION CARRIES. OUR LAST HEARING

1:39:30IS A SITE PLAN APPEAL FROM CHRIS

1:39:32MURPHY FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE

1:39:38LOCATED AT 3561 44th STREET WEST

1:39:44AND 4409 CHOWEN AVENUE. I INVITE

1:39:48CPED TO GIVE A PRESENTATION.

1:39:49WELCOME. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING

1:39:51PATIENT.

1:39:51>> NO PROBLEM. GOOD AFTERNOON,

1:39:54UNCIL VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN AND

1:39:55COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS

1:39:57ANDREW FRENZ.

1:39:59I'M A PLANNER ON THE CPED

1:40:03PLANNI. APPEAL ON THE PLANNING

1:40:06COMMISSION'S APPROVAL AT

1:40:093561 44th STREET WEST AND 4409

1:40:18THE EAST. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY

1:40:20NSISTS OF TWO PARCELS AT THE

1:40:22SOUTHEAST CORNER OF 44th AND

1:40:24CHOWEN. 3561 IS DEVELOPED WITH A

1:40:29SINGLE-STORY AUTO REPAIR USE.

1:40:30AND CHOWEN IS DEVELOPED WITH A

1:40:33DUPLEX. THE PROPERTY INCLUDES A

1:40:35NARROW STRIP OF LAND, THAT'S THE

1:40:36AREA IN RED THAT GOES TO THE

1:40:38NORTH HERE. THAT EXTENDS OUT TO

1:40:4144th STREET AND CONSTITUTES

1:40:44ONE-HALF OF A SHARED DRIVEWAY

1:40:45THAT'S USED BY SEVEN PROPERTIES

1:40:49LOT LIKE A PUBLIC ALLEY BUT IS

1:40:52NOT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. AND IS

1:40:54INSTEAD, A SHARED DRIVEWAY

1:40:56THAT'S ESTABLISHED BY PRIVATE

1:40:57EASEMENT. THE APPLICANT IS

1:40:59PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH BOTH

1:41:02EXISTING BUILDINGS AND CONSTRUCT

1:41:03A NEW FOUR-STORY MIXED USE

1:41:05BUILDING. 18 DWELLING UNITS AND

1:41:07APPROXIMATELY 2,000 SQUARE FEET

1:41:11OF COMRCIAL SPACE. ORIENTED

1:41:16TOWARDS 44th. THE RESIDENTIAL

1:41:18FACED CHOWEN. THERE WOULD BE 24

1:41:22BIKE SPACES IN THE BUILDING AND

1:41:25FOUR SHORT-TERM BIKE SPACES

1:41:27PROPOSED IN THE CHOWENVENUE

1:41:28RIGHT OF WAY. IN ADDITION TO

1:41:30SITE PLAN REVIEW, THE PROPOSED

1:41:32PROJECT REQUIRES A REZONING TO

1:41:35ADD THE SPLIT ZONING OVERLAY

1:41:38DISTRICT. CURRENTLY THAT 44th

1:41:42STREET PARCEL IS IN CM2

1:41:45DISTRICT. AND CHOWEN IS IN A

1:41:48RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. UM3

1:41:49DISTRICT. THE ADDITION OF THE

1:41:51SPLIT ZONING OVERLAY DISTRICT

1:41:54ALLO FOR THESE PARCELS TO BE

1:41:56DEVELOPED TOGETHER WITHOUT

1:41:57CHANGING THE BOUNDARIES OF THOSE

1:41:58PRIMARY ZONING DISTRICTS. THE

1:42:04PROJECT ALSO REQUIRES TWO

1:42:08REQUIRES FAR PREMIUMS. ON

1:42:13SEPTEMBER 28TH, THE PLANNING

1:42:14COMMISSION ACTED TO APPROVE THE

1:42:15SITE PLAN REVIEW APPLICATION FOR

1:42:16THE PROJECT SUBJECT TO THE 11

1:42:19CONDITIONS OFPPROVAL

1:42:20RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND LISTED

1:42:22HERE, AND TO RECOMMEND THAT THE

1:42:24CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE

1:42:25REZONING. THAT REZONING IS

1:42:26BEFORE YOU SEPARATELY TODAY AS

1:42:28ITEM 16 ON THE AGENDA. ON

1:42:31OCTOBER 8TH, THE APPELLANT

1:42:33SUBMITTED THEIR COMPLETE APPEAL

1:42:37OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S

1:42:39SITE PLAN REVIEW. DISCUSSES THE

1:42:43SHARED DRIVEWAY AND CONCERNS

1:42:44ABOUT THE TRANSFORMER LOCATION

1:42:47ADJACENT TO THAT SHARED

1:42:49DRIVEWAY, AS WELL AS DRAINAGE IN

1:42:51THE SHARED DRIVEWAY. THE PROJECT

1:42:53PROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION

1:42:55DOES NOT IN ANY WAY OBSTRUCT OR

1:42:59AUTHORIZE THE OBSTRUCTION OF THE

1:43:00DRIVEWAY EASEMENT. NOR DOES THE

1:43:06SITELAN REVIEW -- APPROVAL AS

1:43:09TO FINAL DRAINAGE, THAT'S MADE

1:43:12BY PUBLIC WORKS SEWAGE WATER AS

1:43:13PART OF THE PDR PROCESS.

1:43:16APPROVAL OF THE FINAL GRADING OR

1:43:19DRAINAGE TT'S NOT PART OF THE

1:43:21SITE PLAN. IT'S NOT HAPPENED

1:43:22YET. THIS PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE

1:43:25FINAL PDR. AS DISCUSSED, THE

1:43:28PROJECT AS APPROVED BY THE

1:43:29PLANNING COMMISSION COMPLIES

1:43:30WITH THE ZONING CODE AND THE

1:43:32SITE PLAN REVIEW STANDARDS.

1:43:33STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE

1:43:35COMMITTEE DENY THE APPEAL, ADAPT

1:43:39STAFF FINDING. I'M HAPPY TO A

1:43:41ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

1:43:42>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT

1:43:42APPROXIMATION. I WILL GO AHEAD

1:43:45AND OPEN UP THE QUASI-JUDICIAL

1:43:48HEARING. BEFORE WE BEGIN, I WILL

1:43:51NOTE THAT BOTH APPELLANT AND

1:43:53PLICANT WILL HAVE SEVEN

1:43:54MINUTES EACH TO TESTIFY BEFORE

1:43:56THE COMMITTEE. AND ANYONE ELSE

1:43:59WHO SIGNED UP CAN HAVE TWO

1:44:01MINUTES TO TESTIF AT THIS

1:44:02POINT I'LL INVITE APPELLANT UP

1:44:04TO TESTIFY. WELCOME.

1:44:11>> I WAS TOLD THAT I'M TO

1:44:13PROVIDE A HARD COPY OF THE

1:44:15SLIDES FOR TODAY. DO I -- HOW DO

1:44:18I DELIVER THEM? OKAY. THANK YOU.

1:44:20THANK YOU, ANDREW. ALSO, I

1:44:23ADVANCED SLIDES AND GO BACKWARDS

1:44:26HERE, I ASSUME. ANDOW DO I

1:44:28BRING UP -- JUST THEUSUAL? I

1:44:32DID LOAD IT. YEAH. TNK YOU.

1:44:36>> YEAH. NO PROBLEM.

1:44:40>> I'M WATCHING.

1:44:42>> RIGHT THERE.

1:44:42>> IS IT READY TO GO?

1:44:46>> YEAH.

1:44:47>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL

1:44:48MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

1:44:51TIME. I AM CHRISTOPHER.

1:44:53>> EXCUSE ME. CHAIR, I AM

1:44:57INTERRUPTING YOU TO ASK FOR THE

1:44:58MIC TO GO CLOSER TO YOUR MOUTH.

1:45:00>> YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

1:45:02>> I'M WATCHING THE TIME. IT

1:45:03STARTED OVER. YOU HEARD THE GOOD

1:45:05AFTERNOON PART.

1:45:07>> YES.

1:45:07>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M

1:45:09CHRIS MURPHY, I OWN PROPERTY ON

1:45:11THE SAME CITY BLOCK AS THE

1:45:13DEVELOPMENT. I'M HERE WITH MY

1:45:15WIFE. I MAY SAY WE A LOT BECAUSE

1:45:18WECTUALLY PULLED THIS

1:45:20TOGETHER. FORGIVE ME, I'M IN THE

1:45:21GOING TO SAY I ALL THE TIME. FOR

1:45:23THE RECORD, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF

1:45:25THE DEVELOPMENT. I'D LOVE TO SEE

1:45:26IT HAPPEN IT'S GREAT. IN FACT,

1:45:29SUPPORTIVE TO THE EXTENT THAT I

1:45:31THINK I'M ALREADY HAVING A

1:45:33FAVORABLE IMPACT ON IT IN SO FAR

1:45:36AS IT WAS OUR INPUT THAT HELPED

1:45:39THE DEVELOPER UNDERSTAND THAT

1:45:40THERE IS IN FACT THIS EASEMENT

1:45:41IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

1:45:45THEIR TITLE INSURANCE COMPANY

1:45:46DIDN'T FIND THAT. THERE WAS AN

1:45:48ENCROACHMENT. THEY WERE GOING TO

1:45:50PUT A PAD TRANSFORMER IN THE

1:45:52MIDDLE OF A PRIVATE EASEMENT. AT

1:45:54LEAST IN EARLIER VERSION OF THE

1:45:56PLAN THAT I SAW, THERE W A

1:45:58PROVISION FOR ROOF DRAINAGE TO

1:46:01GO TOWARDS THE PRIVATE ALLEY

1:46:03EASEMENT. BUT I THINK THAT'S

1:46:04BEEN REMOVED. WHAT I'D LIKE TO

1:46:06DO IS RECAP SOME OF THE CONTENT

1:46:13FROM THE APPEAL AND I WILL SRT

1:46:14HERE. SO THIS IS AN ILLUSTRATION

1:46:18THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE SITE

1:46:20PLAN. AND WHAT IT SHOWS IS

1:46:23WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS THE SHARED

1:46:26DRIVEWAY, WHICH I'M KEEN TO

1:46:29POINT OUT ACTUALLY ENCOMPASSES

1:46:30BOTH THE ALLEY EASEMENT ITSELF,

1:46:33WHICH IS 14-FEET WIDE, AS WELL

1:46:35AS NINE ADDITIONAL FEET THAT IS

1:46:40EXCLUSIVELY PRIVATE PROPERTY.

1:46:41ALTHOUGH AGAIN IN THE SITE PLAN

1:46:42THAT IS REFERRED TO AS A SRED

1:46:44DRIVEWAY. THIS EXEMPT THAT

1:46:49YOU'RE SEEING HERE ALSO ADDS THE

1:46:54XCEL CLEARANCE WHICH NEEDS TO BE

1:46:55IN THE SITE PLAN BEFORE IT CAN

1:47:00BE APPROVED. IT ALSO SHOWS THE

1:47:02INGRESS AND EGRESS OF TRAFF

1:47:06FROM A COUPLE OF GARAGE STALLS.

1:47:07THOSE ARE ACTUALLY LONGER

1:47:10GARAGES. THAT'S THE GREEN LINE.

1:47:12GREEN LINES. THEY PROGRESS DIRE

1:47:15PAD TRANSFORMER HAS THE DESIGN

1:47:17CURRENTLY SITS TODAY. ALL RIGHT.

1:47:23LET ME MAKE SURE I -- YEAH, I

1:47:26THINK I' GOT THIS BACKWARDS.

1:47:33RIGHT. THERE WE GO. I THINK THAT

1:47:35THE CENTRAL THEME OF WHAT WE'RE

1:47:37SAYING IS THAT THIS PLAN HAS

1:47:42BEEN APPROVED WITHOUT COMPLIANCE

1:47:44WITH SOME OF THE SITE PLAN

1:47:46REVIEW REQUIREMENTS SPECIFIED IN

1:47:48ZONI CODE. AND SPECIFICALLY,

1:47:53COMPATIBILITY, PUBLIC HEALTH,

1:47:54SAFETY AND WELFARE. I DON'T

1:47:56THINK IT CAN BE APPROVED WITHOUT

1:47:59RESOLUTION. WE'LL COME BACK TO

1:48:01THAT. THERE ARE ALSO SOME

1:48:02PROPERTY RIGHTS QUESTIONS, WHICH

1:48:04TIE DIRECTLY TO THOSE SAME

1:48:07CONSIDERATIONS WITHOUT WHOSE

1:48:08RESOLUTION OR CLARITY YOU CAN

1:48:11MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE IMPACT

1:48:12ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. IN

1:48:14THE APPEAL, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN

1:48:15MORE DETAIL ON THE PAD AND STORM

1:48:19WATER. ON THE PAD TRANSFORMER,

1:48:21I'D LIKE TO ADD ANY FEASIBLE

1:48:23APPROACH FOR PROTECTING IT

1:48:24SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE PLAN

1:48:26AND YOU MAY INFER FROM MY TONE

1:48:29AND SO FORTH THAT SOME OF THOSE

1:48:30THAT ARE REQUIRED ARE NOT

1:48:32INFEASIBLE BECAU THE

1:48:35PROJECTION FROM THE PAD

1:48:39TRANSFORMER WOULD RUIRE THAT

1:48:40BOLLARD TO BE IN THE ALLEY

1:48:44EASEMENT. ADDING STORM WATER TO

1:48:46THE ALLEY EASEMENT WILL BE

1:48:49PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT WILL

1:48:52WORSEN EXISTIN DRAINAGE

1:48:53CONDITIONS. I'LL SHOW YOU THAT

1:48:55ON SOME OF THE FOLLOWING SLIDES.

1:48:58THESE TWO, THEY WILL BE

1:49:01PROBLEMATIC WITH RESPECT TO THE

1:49:03PRIVATE ALLEY EASEMENT, PAE. BUT

1:49:08ALSO TO THE EXCLUSIVEROPERTY

1:49:09THAT I MENTIONED. MOVING O TO

1:49:12THE NEXT SLIDE. THE POINT OF

1:49:16THIS SLIDE IS MERELY TO SHOW THE

1:49:18EXISTING CONFIGURATION OF THE

1:49:20PROPERTY HAS GARAGES DIRECTLY ON

1:49:22THE EASEMENT ABOUT A FOOT OFF AS

1:49:25NEAR I CAN TELL. THE ELEVATION,

1:49:27THEY DRAIN TO THE BACKYARD OF

1:49:29THE PROPERTY. THEYO NOT DRAIN

1:49:31TOWARDS THE PAE. AND

1:49:34FURTHERMORE, THE ELEVATIONS OF

1:49:36THE BACKYARD -- THE WATER IS

1:49:38GOING TO FIND ITS WAY BACK TO

1:49:42THE PAE. TWO DIFFERENT SNAPSPOTS

1:49:52SPLICED TOGETHER. GARAGES ONLY

1:49:53TO PROVIDE CONFIDENCE THAT

1:49:55INDEED THE WATER DOES GO OFF THE

1:49:57BACK. THIS IS WHAT THE ALLEY

1:50:00LOOKS LIKEFTER A RAIN. THIS IS

1:50:02THIS YEAR A FEW TIMES. THE

1:50:04LARGESTODY OF WATER THAT YOU

1:50:06SEE THERE IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT

1:50:07OF THE LARGEST GARAGE AND

1:50:09EXACTLY THE LOCATION WHERE THE

1:50:11PAD TRANSFORMER IS PROPOSED TO

1:50:13, TO BE PLACED. I'D ALSO LIKE

1:50:15TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE COURSE

1:50:18OF PREPARING FOR THIS DISCUSSION

1:50:18CAME ACROSS THE ELECTRIC

1:50:21FRANCHISE WORK THAT WAS DONE

1:50:23LAST YEAR. I BELIEVER

1:50:24POTENTIALLY BY SOME OF THE

1:50:25MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL. AND THE

1:50:27HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF THIS IS IT

1:50:30DEFINES PUBLIC WAY THROUGHOUT

1:50:31THAT DOCUMENT WHICH IS NOW

1:50:33APPENDIX D OF THE ZONING

1:50:35ORDINANCE. IT DEFINES THAT

1:50:36PUBLIC WAY TO INCLUDE IN MY REAG

1:50:40LIKE A PRIVATE ALLEY EASEMENT

1:50:42AND THEN US THAT TERMINOLOGY

1:50:45THROUGHOUT. AND THE ONLY THING

1:50:46I'LL SAY ABOUT THE REST OF THIS

1:50:49IS IT SOUNDS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE

1:50:51TRYING TO SAY HERE. YOU NEED NOT

1:50:54BE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY

1:50:56PROTECTION, AND YOU HAVE TO KNOW

1:50:58THAT IN ADVANCE. ALL RIGHT. A

1:51:03COUPLE OF QUICK NUANCED POINTS

1:51:06HERE. EVEN ACKNOWLEDGING PRIVATE

1:51:09AGREEMENTS AND ADJUDICATION, CBD

1:51:15REMAINS FUNDAMENTALLY

1:51:16RESPONSIBLE. FUNDAMENTALLY.

1:51:18THAT'S IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

1:51:20THEY MUST SEEK TO UERSTAND

1:51:22WHETHER AND HOW THINGS WILL BE

1:51:23MADE SAFE PARTICULARLY WHERE

1:51:26WELL-DEFINED CONCERNS ABOUT

1:51:27SAFETY HAVE BEEN RAISED. AND YOU

1:51:28WILL HAVE READ ABOUT ALL OF

1:51:31THOSE IN THE APPEAL DOCUMENT.

1:51:32AND JUST IN THE INTEREST OF

1:51:39TIME. ON REMEDIES, I DO BELIEVE

1:51:41THIS IS EASILY REMEDIED. I WOULD

1:51:46SUGGEST THAT CPD MUST REQUIRE

1:51:48THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLAN AS

1:51:51WE HAVE LAID OUT OUR CONCERNS TO

1:51:54FACILITATE A REVIEW IN A MANNER

1:51:55THATS COMPLIANT WITH

1:51:56STANDARDS. AND I DON'T THINK

1:51:58THEY CAN KICK THAT CAN DOWN THE

1:52:00ROAD AND SAY THAT WILL BE

1:52:02FIGURED OUT LATER. EITHER IN

1:52:04ENGINEERINGR LICENSING AND

1:52:05PERMITTING BECAUSE THAT IS A

1:52:08FUNDAMENTAL REQUIREMENTF SITE

1:52:08PLAN REVIEW. AND THEN ALSO, I

1:52:10THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A

1:52:12CONDITIO THAT CERTAIN

1:52:13AGREEMENTS BE FORMED. SO THAT

1:52:15BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE

1:52:19PROPER ALLEY EASEMENT

1:52:21NEFICIA

1:52:22BENEFICIARIES. I THINK THAT

1:52:22WOULD BE A STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY

1:52:24TO RESOLVE THIS.

1:52:25>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TT.

1:52:30LET ME SEE HERE. ALL RIGHT. I'M

1:52:35GOING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE

1:52:38SE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK O

1:52:39THIS ITEM.

1:52:43CHAIR OSMAN, THE APPLICANT IS

1:52:45A DIFFERENT PERSON SO THEY GET

1:52:46SEVEN MINUTES.

1:52:47>> ARE THEY HERE? IS THE

1:52:49APPLICANT HERE? YES. PLEASE,

1:52:51CO ON IN.

1:52:52APOLOGIZE. YOU HAVE SEVEN

1:52:53MINUTES TO SPEAK.

1:52:54>> I'M JESSICA HARNER. I'M ONE

1:52:57OF THE ARCHITECTS OF THE TEAM.

1:53:01UNFORTUNATELY, THE APPLICANT, HE

1:53:02IS OUT OF TOWN. HE DID PROVIDE

1:53:04STATEMENT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS

1:53:07INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.UT AS

1:53:08PART OF THE DESIGN TEAM, JUST

1:53:10WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE

1:53:16PROJECT RIGHT NOW DOES COMPLY

1:53:17WITH ZONING, AND WE ARE WORKING

1:53:19WITH XCEL AND CURRENTLY, XCEL'S

1:53:26REVIEW -- WE ARE CONTINUING TO

1:53:28WORK ON THE SITE PLAN. WE'VE

1:53:31WORKED WITH OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS

1:53:34AND HAVE A STRATEGY TO REMOVE

1:53:36ANY DRAINAGE THROUGH DRAIN

1:53:41BASKETS. SO WE'RE CERTAINLY

1:53:41LISTENING AND TRYING TO RESPOND

1:53:46TO THE CONCERNS OF CHRIS AND

1:53:48WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO AS PART

1:53:50OF THE PDR PROCESS.

1:53:55ADDIONALLY, WE DO HAVE SPACE.

1:53:56AS WHERE THE PAD TRANSFORMER IS

1:53:59LOCATED NOW. WE DO HAVE ROOM TO

1:54:02ADD THINGS LIKE BOLLARDS AND

1:54:04SCREENING AS REQUIRED BY XCEL

1:54:07AND THE CITY. JUST WANT TO THANK

1:54:09YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND JUST LET

1:54:10YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE CONTINUING

1:54:12TO WORK TOUGH THESE ISSUES AND

1:54:13RESPOND.

1:54:13>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SEE IF

1:54:16THERE'S ANYONE I PUBLIC THAT

1:54:17WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS

1:54:21ITEM. SEEG NONE -- OH. BEFORE

1:54:23I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL

1:54:26RECOGNIZE CITY ATTORNEY. NOPE.

1:54:27OKAY.

1:54:32>> [ OFF-MIC COMMENTS

1:54:33>> SOY. YOU RUN OUT OF TIME.

1:54:37>> [ OFF-MIC COMMENTS ].

1:54:37>> SHE CAN SPEAK TWO MINUTES.

1:54:38YEAH.

1:54:42>> I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD IN

1:54:45RESPONSE TO THE RESPONSE --

1:54:46>> CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME,

1:54:48PLEASE.

1:54:51>> SORRY. IT'S MARTE, SPOUSE

1:54:54TO THE APPLICANT OR THE

1:54:56APPELLANT. JUST LIKE TO ADD IN

1:54:58RESPONSE TO THE NOTION THAT

1:55:04THERE COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE

1:55:05ANOTHER LOCATION FOR THE PAD

1:55:08TRANSF

1:55:09TRANSFORMER. BY THE CITY PLANNER

1:55:10THAT THERE'S AN ORDINANCE MAKING

1:55:11ITS WAY I THINK THROUGH THE CITY

1:55:17IN RELATION TO THE DATA CENTER,

1:55:21POTENTIALLY DATA CENTER BILL, I

1:55:22THINK, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A

1:55:27PAD TRANSFORMER PLACED ON CHOWEN

1:55:29OR REVERSED CORNERS, I BELIEVE.

1:55:31ACTUALLY, WOULD DEFER TO

1:55:33ANDREW BECAUSE HE PROBABLY HAS A

1:55:34BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THAT. AND I

1:55:36BELIEVE THAT ORDINANCE IS SET TO

1:55:37BE PASSED IN A MATTER OF THREE

1:55:42WEEKS. SO THERE ARE

1:55:43OPPORTUNITIES. AND THE ONLY

1:55:44THING I'D REALLY LIKE TO

1:55:46EMPHASIZE IS IN AS MUC AS TITLE

1:55:4820 MIGHT HAVE BEEN MET IN TERMS

1:55:51OF DIMENSIONAL ASPECTS, ITAS

1:55:54NOT BEENET FROM A SAFETY

1:55:56STANDPOINT. THAT WAS READILY

1:55:58APPARENT IN THE APPEAL

1:55:59DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS

1:56:01SUBMITTED. THERE ARE PUBLIC

1:56:02SAFETY CONCERNS AND THATS NOT

1:56:03SOMETHING THAT CAN BE

1:56:05OVERLOOK. THAT IS A KEY

1:56:07COMPENT OF TITLE 20. SO I DO

1:56:09NOT BELIEVE AS IT STANDS, TITLE

1:56:1120 HAS BEEN ME THANK YOU.

1:56:12>> THANK YOU. NOW I WILL CLOSE

1:56:15THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOGNIZE

1:56:18OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

1:56:19>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. MEMBERS OF

1:56:20THE BODY, I DID JUST WANT TO

1:56:23REMIND YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE ITEM

1:56:2516 ON FOR DISCUSSION, WHICH IS

1:56:27CONSIDERATION OF ZONING, THAT

1:56:29APPROXIMATELY, YOU ARE

1:56:31CONSIDERING ONLY THE SITE PLAN

1:56:33VIEW IN YOUR QUASI-JUDICIAL

1:56:35HEARING. AND SO THE FACTORS THAT

1:56:37YOU SHOUL CONSIDER IN MAKING

1:56:40YOUR DETERMINATION ON THIS

1:56:41QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER SHOULD BE

1:56:43LIMITED TO TSE RELEVANT TO THE

1:56:45SITE PLAN REVIEW. THANK YOU.

1:56:46>> OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU

1:56:48SO MUCH. VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

1:56:50>> THANK YOU, CHAIR OSMAN. I

1:56:54WANTED TO INVITE MR. FRENZ TO

1:56:58PERHAPS SPEAK TO THAT COMMENT

1:56:59ABOU THE ORNANCE.

1:57:02>> YEAH. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN

1:57:04AND VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY, THE

1:57:08DATA CENTERS' ORDINANCE DOES

1:57:10INCLUDE A RELATIVELY MINOR

1:57:13CHANGE. THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS IN

1:57:15THAT ORDINANCE ADDRESSING

1:57:17ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. AND

1:57:18ONE MINOR CHANGE THAT IS IN

1:57:22THERE ARE THE STANDARDS FOR

1:57:25TRANSFORMERS AS PERMITTED

1:57:28OBSTRUCTIONS IN REQUIRED YARDS.

1:57:30ONE CHANGE THAT IS PART OF THE

1:57:33PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS TO ALLOW

1:57:36ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMERS AS

1:57:38PERMITTED OBSTRUCTIONS IN THE

1:57:41FRONAND CORNER SIDE YARDS ONLY

1:57:42FOR PROPERTIES WHICH LACK ACCESS

1:57:43TO A PUBLIC ALLEY. THE PLACEMENT

1:57:54ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMERS IS A

1:57:57ROUTINE ISSUE THAT WE RUN INTO

1:57:58AND THAT DEVELOPERS STRUGGLE

1:58:00WITH. WE'VE HAD ENFORCEMENT

1:58:03ISSUES WITH XCEL THAT GO BACK A

1:58:06NG TIME THIS IS A MINOR

1:58:08CHANGE THAT IS PART OF THAT

1:58:09AMENDMENT AS PROPOSED. THIS

1:58:12PROJECT AS OF RIGHT NOW IS NOT

1:58:15PROPOSING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF

1:58:16THAT. THE TRANSFORMER PLACEMENT

1:58:19THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED COMPLIES

1:58:20WITH THE ZONING CODE. THERE IS

1:58:25POTENTIAL THAT THEY COULD CHOOSE

1:58:27TO RELOCATE THE TRANSFORMER TO

1:58:29THE FRONT YARD. IN DOING SO, YOU

1:58:31KNOW, THEY WOULD NEED TO VERIFY

1:58:34THAT THEY ARE MEETING XCEL'S

1:58:37REQUIREMENTS OF PROXIMITY TO THE

1:58:40BUILDI. WHILE ALSO NOT

1:58:43CREATING ISSUES WITH COMPLYING

1:58:46WITH MINIMAL ZONING. MAKE SURE

1:58:47THEY'RE NOT ROVING LANDSCAPED

1:58:50AREA OR TREES THAT ARE PART OF

1:58:52THE SITE PLAN. IT'S NOT AS

1:58:56SIMPLE AS YES, THEY CAN PK UP

1:58:58THE TRANSFORMER AND MOVE IT TO

1:59:00THE FRONT YARD. BUT TT IS A

1:59:03POTENTIAL FOR THEM IF THAT

1:59:05PASSES.

1:59:05>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I

1:59:06PRECIATE IT. I AM JUST

1:59:08THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS CURRENTLY

1:59:10IN FRONT OF US IN TERMS OF THIS

1:59:14BEING A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER.

1:59:16SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR

1:59:19CURRENT SITE PLAN REVIEW

1:59:21STANDARDS AND OUR CURRENT ZONING

1:59:21CODE. AND LOOKING AT STAFF

1:59:27FINDGS, IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT

1:59:31THAT THE FINDINGS AND THE SITE

1:59:33PLAN REVIEW ARE MET. AND THERE'S

1:59:36FULL COMPLNCE WITH THE ZONING

1:59:38CODE. AND SO I AM GOING TO MOVE

1:59:41THAT WE DENY THIS APPEAL AND

1:59:44UPHOLD THE FINDINGS OF STAFF AND

1:59:46UPHOLD THE RECOMMENDATION FROM

1:59:47THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

1:59:51>> I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL

1:59:52MEER RAINVILLE.

1:59:58>> I WAS GOING TO MOVE THIS. SO

2:00:00I'M GOOD. I THINK IT'SIME TO

2:00:01VOTE.

2:00:01>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO

2:00:08ONE ELSE, ON THAT MOTION, I WILL

2:00:11ASK THE CLERK TO CALL T ROLL.

2:00:14>> CNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE.

2:00:16>> AYE.

2:00:17>> WARREN.

2:00:19>> AY

2:00:19>> SHAFFER.

2:00:19>> I'M SORRY. IS THIS US

2:00:24APPROVING -- CAN YOU EXPLAIN? I

2:00:26THOUGHT IT WAS A MOTION T DENY.

2:00:28>> DENY.

2:00:29>> GOTCHA. AYE.

2:00:31>> CHAVEZ

2:00:32>> CAN I JUST CLARIFY? IT IS A

2:00:34MOTION, THROUGH THE CHAIR, IT IS

2:00:36A TION TO DENY THE APPEAL AND

2:00:38APPROVE THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN

2:00:39REVIEW.

2:00:39>> THANK YOU.

2:00:45>> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. CAN Y

2:00:50>> I'LL START OVER. COUNCIL

2:00:51MEMBER RAINVILLE.

2:00:53>> AYE.

2:00:54>> WARREN.

2:00:55>> AYE.

2:00:56>> SHAFFER.

2:00:56>> AYE.

2:00:58>> CHAVEZ.

2:00:58>> AYE.

2:00:59>> CHUGHTAI.

2:01:00>> AYE.

2:01:00>> VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

2:01:01>> AYE.

2:01:02>> AND CHAIR OSMAN.

2:01:03>> AYE.

2:01:03>> THERE AREEVEN AYES.

2:01:05>> ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION

2:01:07CAIES. NEXT WE ARE ON OUR

2:01:12DISCUSSION SECTION HERE. ITEM 13

2:01:14AND 14, WE WILL TAKE UP TOGETHER

2:01:17SINCE THEY ARE RELATED TO THE

2:01:19HERITAGE PARK.

2:01:20I'LL INVITE STAFF TO GIVE US

2:01:21MORE DETAILS. WELCOME. WELCOME.

2:02:32PLEASE GO AHEAD.

2:02:34>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON,

2:02:37CHAIR OSMAN, VICE CHAIR

2:02:38CHOWDHURY, AND COMMUNITY

2:02:40MEMBERS. MYAME IS JOEY DOBSON,

2:02:45SHE/HER. THE FIRST ITEM SEEKS

2:02:49COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR A CONTRACT

2:02:52AMENDMENT WITH NORTH POINT

2:02:53HEALTH AND WELLNESS IMPLEMENTING

2:02:55THE CITY'S HERITAGE PARK

2:02:58RELOCATION POLICY. -- STARTING

2:03:04WITH ITEM 13, AS YOU KNOW, ON

2:03:07AUGUST 13TH, 2026, THE CITY

2:03:09ADOPTED THE HERITAGE PARK

2:03:10VOLUNTARY RELOCATION POLICY IN

2:03:14RESPON TO CONCERNS ABOUT

2:03:15POTENTIAL EMERGENCY RELOCATION

2:03:16NEEDS FOR RENTERS RESIDING I

2:03:19THE HERITAGE PARK HOUSING

2:03:21DEVELOPMENT. CPED IDENTIFIED THE

2:03:24NEED FOR CONSULTANT SERVICES TO

2:03:27IMPLEMENT THE RELOCATION

2:03:28ASSISTANCE THAT THE POLICY MADE

2:03:29AVAILABLE. AT THAT POINT IN

2:03:32TIME, NORTH POINT HEALTH AND

2:03:36WELLNESS WAS DOING WORK THAT

2:03:41INEXTRICKABLE FROM THE

2:03:41IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY'S

2:03:42OLS. POLICY. NORTH POINT OVIDES

2:03:50ANRESOURCES TO SUPPORT

2:03:51INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES THROUGH

2:03:53CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE TRAUMA

2:03:55INFORMED MODELS OF CARE. BECAUSE

2:03:57OF NORTH POINT'S ESTABLISHED

2:04:00ROLE, TRUST WHIN THE HERITAGE

2:04:02PARK COMMUNITY, ALONG WITH

2:04:05UNIQUE EERIENCE AND EXPERTISE

2:04:08REGARDING RENTER -- THE CITY

2:04:10ENTERED INTO ITS CURRENT

2:04:11CONTRACT WITH NORTH POINT FOR

2:04:16$175,000 IN EARLY SEPTEMBER.

2:04:17SINCE ENTERINGNTO THAT

2:04:18CONTRACT, NORTH POINT HAS BEEN

2:04:20ENGAGING WITH RESIDENTS OF

2:04:22RITAGE PARK, COUNSELING THEM

2:04:23ON THEIR OPTIONS UNDER THE

2:04:25POLICY, AND DISPERSING

2:04:27RELOCATION ASSISTANCE. THE ITEM

2:04:29BEFORE YOU TODAY -- AMEND THAT

2:04:31CONTRACT WITH NORTH POINT BY

2:04:33ADDING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF

2:04:38$766,000. FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT

2:04:40AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 941,291.

2:04:44ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE NOW NEEDED

2:04:46IN ORDER TO CONTINUE NTH

2:04:48POINT'S WORK IMPLEMENTING THE

2:04:50RELOCATION ASSISTANCE POLICY FOR

2:04:51ELIGIBLE RESIDENTS. THE SCOPE OF

2:04:54SERVICES FOR THIS CONTRACT

2:04:56INCLUDES PROFESSIONA SERVICES

2:04:57NEEDED FOR PROGRAM

2:05:00ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS THE

2:05:02DISBURSEMENT OF THAT RELOCATION

2:05:04SERVICE. THI DOLLAR AMOUNT TO

2:05:06BE CLEAR INCLUDES THE RELOCATION

2:05:08ASSISTANCE FUNDS, WHICH NORTH

2:05:10POINT IS DISBURSING TO

2:05:12HOUSEHOLDS ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.

2:05:14THAT'S IT FOR THAT ITEM. I'M

2:05:16HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON

2:05:17THIS ONE BEFORE MOVING ON TO THE

2:05:18NEXT.

2:05:20>> OKAY. ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES

2:05:23HAVE A QUESTION? I SEE COUNCIL

2:05:24MEMBER WARREN.

2:05:26>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU

2:05:27SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

2:05:35MY QUESTION FOR THIS WAS I

2:05:37DIDN'T SEE THAT THERE WAS AN

2:05:39EXTENSION TO THE NOTIFICATION

2:05:41DATE OF THE 15th. I HAD SPOKE

2:05:44WITH DIRECTOR HANSEN ABOUT THAT

2:05:45A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. HE'S

2:05:50RIGHT BEHIND YOU.HANK YOU.

2:05:54THANK YOU, DIRECT R ON.

2:05:57DIRECTOR.

2:05:58>> CHAIR OSMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER

2:05:59WARREN, MY NAME IS ERIC HANSEN,

2:06:01I'M THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY

2:06:03PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. YES,

2:06:04WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT

2:06:07THE EXTENSION OF THE OCTOBER --

2:06:09>> 15th DATE.

2:06:11>> GOT IT. OCTOBER 15TH DATE.

2:06:16THE OCTOBER 15TH DATE WAS SET BY

2:06:17CITY COUNCIL IN THE POLICY

2:06:19ADOPTION BACK IN THE SUMMER. IN

2:06:21ORR FOR US TO CHANGE THAT

2:06:25DATE, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET A

2:06:27CITY COUNCIL ACTION. BY THE TIME

2:06:29THAT PEOPLE WERE ASKING

2:06:30POTENTIALLY FOR AN EXTENSION OF

2:06:32THAT, WE DID NOT HAVE

2:06:33SUBSTANTIAL TIME TO GET THROUGH

2:06:35A CITY COUNCIL PROCESS AND

2:06:37EXTEND IT. WE WORKED WITH NORTH

2:06:39POINT HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER

2:06:41AND DISCUSSED THE OCTOBER 15TH

2:06:45THEY WERE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE

2:06:46WITH ALL OF THE ELIGIBLE

2:06:49HOUSEHOLDS BY THAT TIME AND GET

2:06:50THEM ON THE LIST. SO WE'RE

2:06:52CONFIDENT THAT THE FOLKS THAT

2:06:53ARE INTERESTED IN USING THIS

2:06:56FUNDING ARE ON THE LIST OF

2:06:59ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS.

2:07:00>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

2:07:03BECAUSE I DO RECALL IN THAT

2:07:05CONVERSATION I KNOW THAT THERE

2:07:06WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION AUND

2:07:09LEASES, AND THE LEASING

2:07:11AGREEMENTS AND THE WAY THAT THE

2:07:13WERE CODED AND HOW, YOU KNOW,

2:07:16SOMEEOPLE STATED THAT THEY

2:07:19WERE PART OF SOME PROGRAMND

2:07:21THEN NOT PART OF ANOTHER AND

2:07:23WHAT HAVE YOU. AND SO WEEDING

2:07:24THROUGH ALL OF THESE THINGS.

2:07:26JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE

2:07:32INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DESIRING TO

2:07:33RECEIVE THE HELP ARE GETTING THE

2:07:35HELP THAT THEY NEED TO RECEIVE

2:07:37AS WE'RE PUTTING A COUPLE OF

2:07:39EXTRA DOLLARS ON THE TABLE TO

2:07:41ENSURE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE ABLE

2:07:44TO SERVE THOSE WHO NEED

2:07:44ASSISTANCE.

2:07:47>> COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, COUNCIL

2:07:48MEMBER WARREN, WE DO BELIEVE

2:07:50THAT NORTH POINT WAS AE TO

2:07:51COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE THAT HAD

2:07:57QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THEY'RE

2:07:58ELIGIBLE FOR THE CITY'S PROGRAM

2:08:03OR THE MPHA ASSISTANCE.

2:08:06>> I KNOW THE LEGISLATIVE

2:08:11DIRECTIVE REPORT WILL BE LATER.

2:08:12WE'RE SAYIN THAT THE 211

2:08:15RESIDENTS THAT REMAINED

2:08:17OCC

2:08:19OCCUPIED -- I KNOW SOME PEOPLE

2:08:21HAVE MOVED HAVE ALL BEEN

2:08:22CONTACTED AND REACHED OUT TO AND

2:08:23WE HAVE DATA TO SUPPO WHAT

2:08:27THEIR ULTIMATE CHOICE OR

2:08:28DECISION IS WITH RESPE TO

2:08:32RELOCATION?

2:08:32>> CHAIR OSMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER

2:08:35WARREN, SO THERE ARE 200 UNITS.

2:08:40NOT 212 PEOPLE.

2:08:41>> 211 UNITS.

2:08:43>> OCCUPIED UNITS.

2:08:45>> FAMILIES.

2:08:46>> ABOUT 80 OFHICH ARE

2:08:48ELIGIBLE FOR THE CITY'S PROGRAM.

2:08:51NOT EVERYBODY WOULD

2:08:52AFFIRMATIVELY TELL NORTH POINT

2:08:53THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO MOVE.

2:08:55BUT WE BELIEVE THEY DID ENOUGH

2:08:58TO COMMUNICATEO REACH OUT TO

2:09:00ALL OF THE ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS

2:09:03AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT

2:09:04RESOURCES AVAILABLE AND IT'S

2:09:05UP TO THE HOUSEHDS. AS YOU'LL

2:09:09REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT

2:09:11THIS ORIGINALLY WITH THIS POLICY

2:09:14AND FUNDING, IT'S AROUND THE

2:09:17UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE

2:09:21HOUSEHOLDS AT HERITAGE PARK.

2:09:23SOME OF THE FOLKS AT HERITAGE

2:09:28PARK DID NOT WANT TO MOVE. THEY

2:09:30ONLY HAD TO TELL US IF THEY

2:09:32WANTED TO MOVE. WE BELIEVE NORTH

2:09:34POINT HAS DONE THE JOB THAT

2:09:36PEOPLE WERE AWARE OF THE

2:09:39RESOURCES AND THOSE WHO CHOSE TO

2:09:42TAKE IT WOULD DISCUSS THAT AND

2:09:45DID THE APPROPRIATE THING BY

2:09:50OCTOBER 15TH.

2:09:51>> THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY

2:09:53QUESTIONS, DIRECTOR HANSEN.

2:09:55>> THANK YOU. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

2:09:57NEXT ITEM.

2:09:58>> IT LOOKS LIKE THE FILE IS

2:10:02CORRUPTED. SO I'M GOING TO

2:10:03DILAY A PRINTED COPY.

2:10:04>> OKAY.

2:10:15>> SO THE NEXT ITEM IS AN UPDATE

2:10:18ON RELOCATION AND REHABILITATION

2:10:20EFFORTS AT HERITAGE PARK IN

2:10:21RESPONSE TO THE LEGISLATIVE

2:10:23DIRECTIVE. THE SLIDE LISTS THE

2:10:24INFORMATION REQSTED IN THE

2:10:26DIRECTIVE, PROGRESS ON THE

2:10:27RELOCATION OF RESIDENTS AS WELL

2:10:30AS INFORMATION RELATED TO FUNDS

2:10:32DISTRIBUTED FOR REHABILITATION.

2:10:34SO THESE WERE THE TWO PURPOSES

2:10:38FOR THE $2.5 MILLION ALLOCATED

2:10:39THIS SUMMER IN RESPONSE TO THE

2:10:40SITUATION AT HERITAGE PARK. THIS

2:10:49SLIDE PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF

2:10:51WORK TO DATE AS WE WERE

2:10:54DISCUSSING OF RESIDENT

2:10:55RELOCATION. WE HAVE PRIORITIZED

2:10:58RESIDENT AGENCY IN DECIDING

2:11:00WHETHER RELOCATING OR STAYING AT

2:11:02HERIGE PARK MAKESENSE FOR

2:11:03EACH INDIVIDUAL FAMILY

2:11:05SITUATION. SO AS YOU HEARD ABOUT

2:11:06TO THIS END ANDASED ON

2:11:08GUIDANCE TO THE CITY COUNCIL,

2:11:10CPED IS PARTNERING WITH NORTH

2:11:13POINT SERVING RESIDENTS. THE

2:11:15CITY IS ALSO ENGAGED WITH SRF

2:11:20CONSULTING GROUP. BASED ON THE

2:11:21SPECIFIC NEEDS OF THE RESIDENT

2:11:23HOUSEHOLDS WHO HAVE EXPRESS

2:11:24INTERESTS IN MOVING. IN ADDITION

2:11:27TO THESE CONTRACTED PARTNERS,

2:11:28SUPPORT FROM OTHERS INCLUDING

2:11:31MID-MINNESOTA LEGAL AID. THEY

2:11:34HAVE PROVID ADVICE AND

2:11:38SERVICES REGARDING POTENTIAL

2:11:40TAX, AND RECEIVING ASSISTANCE AS

2:11:42WELL AS HOUSING AND OTHER LEGAL

2:11:43ASSISTANCE AS NEEDED. THE

2:11:46PROPERTY MANAGER ON SITE, PSS,

2:11:50HAS BEEN IN SUPPORT. RESPONDING

2:11:52TO RESIDENT INQUIRIES AND

2:11:54CONNECTINGLIGIBLE HOUSEHOLDS

2:11:56WITH NORTH POINT. AS WAS

2:11:59DISCUSSED, NORTH POINT DID

2:12:01CONDUCT EXTENSIVE OUTREACH AND

2:12:04ENGAGEMENT AND CONNECTING

2:12:04RESIDENTS TO RESOURCES

2:12:07AVAILABL LAST THURSDAY,

2:12:09OCTOBER 15TH WAS THE DEADLINE

2:12:11FOR ELIGIBLE RESIDENTS TO

2:12:13EXPRESS INTEREST IN RELOCATING.

2:12:16A SMALL CORRECTION ON THIS SLIDE

2:12:17IS THAT I WAS MADE AWARE OF JUST

2:12:19A BIT AGO, 31 OF THE 81 ELIGIBLE

2:12:23HOUSE HOLDS DID OPT IN BY THAT

2:12:26DEADLINE. OF THOSE, SEVERAL HAVE

2:12:29ALREADY RECEIVED THE ADVANCED

2:12:30PORTION OF THE MOVING STIPEND

2:12:32THAT'S BEEN MADE AVAILABLE.NE

2:12:33HAS RELOCATED AND RECEIVED RENT

2:12:36SISTANCE COVERING THE INCREASE

2:12:37IN THEIR RENT F THE NEXT 12

2:12:40MONTHS. AND ONE SUCCESSFULLY

2:12:43RELOCATED AND EXPERIENCED A RENT

2:12:46DECREASE DUE TO A VETERAN

2:12:49BENEFIT. THE DEADLINE FOR

2:12:52REMAINING RESIDENTS TO MOVE OUT

2:12:55OF HERITAGE PARK IS JANUARY 21,

2:12:582027. THIS DEADLINE CAN BE

2:13:02EXTENDED AT THE DISCRETION OF

2:13:04THE CPED DIRECTOR. MOVINGN TO

2:13:08A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE

2:13:09REHABILITATION EFFORTS AT

2:13:11HERITAGE PARK. AS WAS DISCUSSED

2:13:13EARLIER, THE $2.5 MILLION

2:13:15ALLOCATED WAS FOR BOTH

2:13:16RELOCATION AND REHABILITATION

2:13:17EFFORTS. STAFF ARE WORKING WITH

2:13:20THE RECEIVER AT MPHA TO

2:13:23DETERMINE THE SCOPE OF WORK AND

2:13:25PLAN FOR THE USE OFEMAINING

2:13:27FUNDS ONCE RELOCION EFFORTS

2:13:28HAVE CONCLUDED. THERE WAS A

2:13:33SEPARATE $500,000 BUDGET FROM

2:13:362025. THIS FUNNG IS BEING USED

2:13:38TO REPLACE AT LEAST 88 FURNES

2:13:46TO ENSURE THOSEUILDINGS STAY

2:13:48WARM DURING WINTER MONTHS. MPHA

2:13:51WORKING ON A SEPARATE EFFORT TO

2:13:52APPROVE TWO BUILDINGS TO

2:13:56ACCOMMODATE MPHA RESIDENTS

2:13:59WORKING TO TRANSFER. THIS

2:14:01CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.ND

2:14:02I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

2:14:03QUESTIONS.

2:14:04>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL

2:14:05MEMBER WARREN.

2:14:11THANK YOU, CHAIR. SLIDE FOUR,

2:14:13PAGE TWO. YOU JT HAD IT PULLED

2:14:15UP. AGN, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY

2:14:22THIS FOR THE RECORD BECAUSE I'VE

2:14:24SAID IT SEVERAL TIMES. WHY ARE

2:14:27WE PUTTING NEW FURNACES IN UNITS

2:14:29THAT HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY

2:14:31GUTTED AND REHABBED? THAT'S

2:14:34CALLED HUSTLING BACKWARDS. IT'S

2:14:36CALLED WASTING MONEY. IT'S

2:14:37CALLED WASTE. IT JUST IS. AND IF

2:14:44THE UNITS DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE

2:14:47HEAT, THEN THE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT

2:14:48BE THERE. IF YOU HAVE TO REMOVE

2:14:52THE ENTIRE ENVELOPE OF THE

2:14:54BUILDING STRUCTURE AND GUT IT

2:14:57INSIDE, ACCORDING TO THE

2:15:01AUGUST 31ST RECEIVER REPORT THAT

2:15:04CERTUS SENT IN TO THE COURT, ALL

2:15:06OF THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE TO BE

2:15:09GUTTED AND COMPLETELY REHABBED.

2:15:12WHY ARE WE SPENDING A HALF A

2:15:15MILLION DOLLARS ON 88 FURNACES

2:15:16THAT ARE GOING TO CONTAIN MOLD

2:15:19SPORES AND BACTERIA FROM A

2:15:22DECAYING PROPERTY THATAS NOT BE

2:15:26THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONTOM

2:15:31CONTAMINATED. WE'RE NOT GOING T

2:15:34SELF-STORAGE SOMEWHERE AND TURN

2:15:35AROUND AND PUT THEM INHE

2:15:37REHABBED UNITS WHEN THEY'RE

2:15:39DONE. IT'S THE STUPIDEST EVER. I

2:15:41DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE

2:15:42CAN'T SEEM TO GET THAT PART OUT

2:15:44OF THEIR HEAD.

2:15:45>> COUNCIL MEMBER, I UNDERSTAND

2:15:46YOUR FRUSTRATION.

2:15:47>> I HEAR YOU. THANK YOU,

2:15:49COUNCIL OSMAN.

2:15:51>> YES, DIRECTOR

2:15:54>> CHAIR OSMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER

2:15:56WARREN, YES, WVE TALKED ABOUT

2:15:58IT'S A PUZZLE WE'RE PUTTING

2:16:02TOGETHERO REHAB THOSE 400

2:16:03UNITS THAT ARE WITHIN THE

2:16:06PURVIEW OF THOSE, OF THE

2:16:06RECEIVER. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE

2:16:14PEOPLEIVING IN THE BUILDINGS.

2:16:16WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE HEALTH

2:16:18DEPARTMENT ABOUTHE POTENTIAL

2:16:20OF HING MOLD INSIDE THE HVAC

2:16:23SYSTEMS. AND BASED ON THEIR

2:16:26EXPERTISE, MOLD CAN BE CLEANED

2:16:30OUT OF HVAC UNITS. AND DOESN'T

2:16:33POSE A LONG-TERM THREAT ON

2:16:36REUSING THOSE FURNACES. AND AT

2:16:38THE CORE OF IT, WE NEED TO KEE

2:16:40THE BUILDINGS AT A TEMPERATURE

2:16:42OVER THE WINTER. THESE ARE UNITS

2:16:44THAT ARE UNOCCUPIEUNOCCUPIED. T

2:16:48OCCUPIED UNITS HAVE HEAT.

2:16:50UNOCCUPIED UNITS. SIX UNITS OF

2:16:52ONE BUILDING. FOUR OF THEM ARE

2:16:54OCCUPIED AND TWO AREN'T. TWO OF

2:16:56THEM DON'T HAVE HEAT, THO

2:16:58OTHER FOUR ARE GOING TO OPERATE

2:16:59AT A HIGHER OUTPUT AND HAS

2:17:01OPPORTUNITY FOR FAILURE. WE

2:17:05HAVE, AS THE CITY, PUT A LOT OF

2:17:07INTEREST IN THE CONDITION OF

2:17:09THESE UNITS. WE HAVE TO BE VERY

2:17:11MINDFUL THAT WRE GOING TO HAVE

2:17:12PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THROUGH

2:17:14THE RENOVATIONS. THIS IS A FIRST

2:17:18STEP IN GETTING TOWARDS THOSE

2:17:22RENOVATIONS. YOU ARE GHT.

2:17:23WE'RE GOING TO SEE MAJOR REHAB

2:17:25AT HERITAGE PARK. BUT WE NEED TO

2:17:28MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THE

2:17:29RIGHT THINGS NOW. WE HAVE

2:17:32FUNDING AVAILABLE TO HELP KEEP

2:17:33THOSE BUILDINGS WARM DURING THE

2:17:35NTER. WE NEED TO TAKE THAT

2:17:36STEP.

2:17:37>> RESPECTFULLY, DIRECTOR, I

2:17:40APPRIATE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE

2:17:42AND THE THOROUGHNESS THAT YOU'RE

2:17:44GIVING IN EXPLAING THIS. BUT I

2:17:46DON'T RESPECT THE OPINION OF THE

2:17:47HEALTH DEPARTMENT AT THISTIME.

2:17:49AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE

2:17:51HEALTH DEPARTMENT CAME INTO THE

2:17:53MEETING IN WHICH WE HELD WITH

2:17:56HERITAGE PARK RESIDENTS AND SAID

2:17:57THERE'S MOLD SPORES EVERYWHERE.

2:17:59RIGHT NOW. WHEN WE WERE TALKING

2:18:02ABOUT VERY SPECIFIC BLACK MOLD.

2:18:04AND BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE IS AN

2:18:07ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, AROUND MOLD

2:18:08THAT WAS, YOU KNOW,OVED BY MY

2:18:13PREDECESSOR AND BY MY COUNS

2:18:15COLLEAGUE, THE EPA HAS NOT PUT

2:18:17ANY REGULATIONS ON MOLD, ITSELF.

2:18:24SO BECAUSE THOSE THINGS HAVE NOT

2:18:25BEEN DONE THEN I DO NOT ACCEPT

2:18:27THE OPINION OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH

2:18:31DEPARTMENT.HANK YOU, DIRECTOR

2:18:33PATRICK, FOR YOUR COMMUNICATION

2:18:34THAT HE'S HAVING WITH YOU. HE

2:18:36HASN'T HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS

2:18:37WITH ME AROUND ANY OF IT. AND

2:18:39THESE A CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE

2:18:42DIRECTLY IN WARD 5 THAT ARE

2:18:44LIVING THROUGH THESE CONDITIONS.

2:18:47IF YOU HAVE A SIXPLEX UNIT AND

2:18:49FOUR UNITS ARE UNOCCUPIED AND

2:18:51TWO ARE OCCUPIED AND THERE IS A

2:18:54HEATING DISCREPANCY, THEN THE

2:18:55OTHER TWO PEOPLE NEED TO GO. THE

2:18:57END. MY TIME IS UP AND SO IS

2:18:59YOURS RIGHT NOW.

2:19:00>> DIRECTOR, I HAVE A QUICK

2:19:04QUESTION. THESE 88 UNITS, HAVE

2:19:07THEY BEEN INSPECTE

2:19:10>> COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, CAN

2:19:11YOU -- WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

2:19:14>> SORRY. HAVE THEY BEEN

2:19:16INSPECTED?

2:19:17>> INSPECTED?

2:19:19>> INSPECTED FOR LIVABLE

2:19:21CONDITION.

2:19:21>> CHAIRMAN, YES. A OF THE

2:19:23UNITS HAVE BEEN INSPECTED BY

2:19:25REGULATORY SERVICES.

2:19:26>> WHEN WAS THAT DONE?

2:19:28>> THEY STARTED ABOUT A YEAR AGO

2:19:30AND THEY'VE BEEN INSPECTING THEM

2:19:32ALL THROUGH THE LAST -- ISSUED

2:19:34ABOUT A THOUSAND ORDERS LAST

2:19:35YEAR. AND THEY'VE BEEN FOLLOWING

2:19:39ON INSPECTION ORDERS SINCE

2:19:41THEIR INITIAL WAVE OF

2:19:42INSPECTIONS BACK THE END OF LAST

2:19:43YEAR.

2:19:44>> I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. THE

2:19:50VIDEO THAT WE SAW OF COUNCIL

2:19:54MEMBER WARREN TOOK WHEN SHE WAS

2:19:58THERE, WAS THAT AFTER THE

2:19:59INSPECTION? THE CONDITION WAS

2:20:00JUST LIK THAT?

2:20:01>> CHAIR OSMAN, YES, I WAS ON

2:20:05THAT SAME TOUR WITH COUNCIL

2:20:06MEMBER, WHERE THE VIDEO CAME

2:20:08FROM. AND THOSE WERE AFTER THE

2:20:09INSPECTIONS. SO THIS WOULD HAVE

2:20:16BEEN THE SPRING, THE SUMMER WHEN

2:20:19WE DID THAT.

2:20:19>> YEAH, IT WAS THE SUMMER. YES,

2:20:22SIR.

2:20:22>> SO TSE INSPECTIONS WOULD

2:20:23HAVE HAD IT. ONE OF THE UNITS WE

2:20:25WENT THROUGH WAS VACANT. A LOT

2:20:28OF EVIDENCE OF PEOPLE SQUATTING.

2:20:29AND THERE WAS, YOU KN, IT WAS

2:20:31NOT IN GREAT CONDITION. WE'VE

2:20:33BEEN VERY FRANK ABOUT IT WITH

2:20:35THOUNCIL THAT THE LIVING

2:20:37CONDITIONS AT HERITAGE PARK ARE

2:20:38NOT AT A STANDARD THAT WE SHOULD

2:20:41ACCEPT IN LIVG CONDITIONS IN

2:20:42HOUSING IN MINNEAPOLIS. AND

2:20:44THEREFORE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE

2:20:46HAVING A OF THE CONVERSATIONS

2:20:47ABOUT HERITAGE PARK. BUT THEY

2:20:48HAVE BEEN INSPTED.

2:20:49>> SO THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IS

2:20:52ONCE THE FIRE INSPECTOR GOES

2:20:54THERE AND THEY GIVE EITHER

2:20:58THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN. AND

2:21:01THUMBS DOWN MEANS CONDEMNATION.

2:21:04THAT MEANS THE HOUSING IS A GOOD

2:21:07CONDITION HOUSE TO LIVE OR IT'S

2:21:08NOT. WE' GOING TO PUT A BIG

2:21:11RED TAPE HERE AND NOBODYHOULD

2:21:14LIVE THERE. WAS THAT DECISION

2:21:15NOT BEING MADE?

2:21:19>> CHAIR OSMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO

2:21:20DEFER TO THE REGULATORY SERVICES

2:21:22DEPARTMENT. I THINK MAYBE WE

2:21:23SHOULD HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP WITH

2:21:25YOU ON THIS QUESTION. IT'S MORE

2:21:28COMPLICATED TN A THUMBS UP,

2:21:29THUMBS DOWN. THEY ARE LOOKING

2:21:31FOR A SERIES OF VIOLATIONS. CODE

2:21:34REQUIREMENTS. WE ALSO HAVE A

2:21:36REVIEW FROM THE CITY'S BUILDING

2:21:38OFFICIAL. THEY LOOK AT A

2:21:40DIFFERENT SET OF CRITERIA. IS IT

2:21:44STRUCTURALLY SOUND? AND WE'VE

2:21:45BEEN WORKING THROUGH WHAT THE

2:21:47BUILDING INSPECTOR HAS LOOKED

2:21:49AT. THE RENTAL LICENSING

2:21:51INSPECRS. FIRE INSPECTORS AND

2:21:54THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT CERTUS

2:21:58HAS BEEN DOING FOR HERITAGE PARK

2:22:01IN GENERAL. NONE OF THE UNITS

2:22:04HAVE CROSSED THE THRESHOLD FOR

2:22:08CONDEMNATION.

2:22:08>> SORRY. WN THE INSPECTION

2:22:10WAS DONE, WE SAW THAT VIDEO,

2:22:12WH THE INSPECTION WAS DONE

2:22:13LAST YEAR, ALL THE UNITS PASSED.

2:22:16>> CHAIR OSMAN --

2:22:16>> NOTHING WAS CONDEMNED.

2:22:18>> THE REGULATORY SERVICES

2:22:22DEPARTMENT ISSUED ABOUT A

2:22:24THOUSAND PLUS VIOLATIONS.

2:22:27>> CORRECTIONS.

2:22:28>> VIOLATIONS OF CODES THAT NEED

2:22:29TO BE DIRECTED. WE SHOULD BRING

2:22:32IN DIRECTOR VELAZQUEZ AND HIS

2:22:33TEAM TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU

2:22:35WANT TO GET DEEPER INTO THIS

2:22:38SUBJECT. I'M HAPPY TO COORDINATE

2:22:39WITH YOU AND DIRECTOR VELAZQUEZ.

2:22:42>> I'M GOING TO CONTINUE BUT

2:22:43COUNCIL MEMBER -- OH, NEVER

2:22:45MIND.

2:22:46>> I STILL HAVE A POINT OF

2:22:48INFORMATION. THERE HAS NOT BEEN

2:22:50A FIRE INSPECTION REPORT EVEN

2:22:53THOUGH STATION 16 SENT A LET R

2:22:55FOR S TO COME IN AND DO AN

2:22:58INSPECTION. YOU ASKED ABOUT

2:22:59THAT, CHAIR, AND SO I WANTED TO

2:23:01PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT POINT OF

2:23:05INFORMATION BECAUSE IT HAS NOT

2:23:06BEEN. AND THE INSPECTIONS THAT

2:23:08WERE PROVIDED FROM REGULATORY

2:23:10SERVICES WERE NOT A PASS OR

2:23:13FAIL. THEY WERE THE DEFICIENCIES

2:23:15THAT WERE LOCATED AT SAID

2:23:19PROPERTY. THERE IS A FULL

2:23:22DETAILED INSPECTION REPORT THAT

2:23:23HAS BEEN SENT FROM THE RECEIVER

2:23:26CERTUS TO THE COURTS WHO IS

2:23:29MAKING THE DECISIONS ABOUT THE

2:23:31PROPERTY. AND WITH RESPECT TO

2:23:34THAT REPORT, IT STATES IN THAT

2:23:37REPORT THAT THE PROPERTY ITSELF

2:23:40IS NOT HABITABLE. AND THAT THERE

2:23:45ARE SEVERE SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT

2:23:47THE HABABILITY OF THE OCCUPIED

2:23:50UNITS ESPECIALLY THE FLOORING

2:23:51EVEN THEEOPLE ARE WALKING ON

2:23:53BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD RESIDENTS

2:23:54FALLING THROUGH THE FLOORS. SO

2:23:56THERE ISN'T A PASS OR FAIL WITH

2:24:00REGULATORY SERVICES. AND FIRE

2:24:01INSPECTION HAS NOT BEEN THROUGH

2:24:02THE BUILDINGS. THE END.

2:24:03>> I S A HUGE CONCERN HERE BY

2:24:07REG SEICES. IN MY EXPERIENCE

2:24:10RECENTLY, THERE WAS ABOUT, I

2:24:12DON'T KNOW, SIX UNITS OR FOUR

2:24:16UNITS PLEX THAT FIRE

2:24:19INSPECTION HAS SHOWN UP AND THEY

2:24:23DID NOT SEND JUST CORRECTION,

2:24:24THEY WERE LIKE, OKAY -- OH, THEY

2:24:27DID SEND THE CORRECTION. BUT THE

2:24:30LANDLORDS, WHICH I MET, HAVE NOT

2:24:33MET AND HAVE DONE VERY HORRIBLE

2:24:35JOB ALLOWING THESE RESIDENTS TO

2:24:37LIVE IN THIS KIND OF CONDITIONS.

2:24:39THEY CONDEMNED RIGHT AWAY. THERE

2:24:42WAS NO NEGOTIATION THERE. WE ARE

2:24:44RESPONSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE THAT

2:24:45LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS, THAT LIVE

2:24:47IN THIS RESIDENCE AS REG

2:24:49SERVICES, WE'RE CONDEMNING. END

2:24:50OF CONVERSATION. AND THAT WAS

2:24:54DONE. AND THAT BUILDING IS COND

2:24:57RESIDENTS ARE BEING PROCESSED ON

2:24:59BEING HOUSED. THANK GOD THEY'RE

2:25:01ALL BEING HOUSED RIGHT NOW. IT'S

2:25:03NOT A LO BUT THAT IS WHAT WE

2:25:06EXPECT REG SERVICES. I KNOW

2:25:07THEY'RE NOT HERE. BUT THE WAY I

2:25:09UNDERSTAND IS THAT IF YOU GO TO

2:25:10A BUILDING AND YOU ARE SAYING

2:25:12THAT, OH, THIS BUILDING IS NOT A

2:25:15LIVABLE CONDITION, THERE SHOULD

2:25:17BE THAT BIG RED TAPE. YOU'VE

2:25:19DONE IT IN COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

2:25:21IN SEVEN CORNERS. YOU'VE DONE IT

2:25:23IN OTHER PLACES. NOT WHY

2:25:25HERITAGE? THAT'S THE QUESTION

2:25:27THAT KINDA REALLY IN MY HEAD.

2:25:31>> CHAIR OSMAN, I'M GETTING SOME

2:25:33MESSES FROM DIRECTOR

2:25:36VELAZQUEZ. AND I'LL CONVEY THEM

2:25:37TO YOU. BUT I THINK WE'RE

2:25:39GETTING REALLY OFF TOPIC OF WHAT

2:25:41WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT. AND I

2:25:42THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE TO HAVE

2:25:45THE RIGHT APPROPRIATE STAFF IN

2:25:46HERE, IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO

2:25:49DEEP DIVE OF PROPERTY

2:25:50MAINTENANCE CONDITIONS. BUT HE

2:25:52REPORTS THAT THEY HAD A FULL

2:25:55INSPECTI COMPLETED IN AUGUST.

2:25:56ACTIVE FOLLOW UP OF OUTSTANDING

2:25:59DERS TO CORRECT WITH

2:26:00REINSPECTIONS THAT ARE

2:26:02OCCURRING. AND THOSE INSPECTIONS

2:26:05HAVE BEEN PERFORMED BY THE FIRE

2:26:07INSPECTION SERVIC. FIRE

2:26:08INSPECTIONS IS IN REGULATORY

2:26:10SERVICES. THEY HAVE FOUR FIRE

2:26:12INSPECTORS WORKING THROUGHOUT

2:26:15THE PROPERTY TO LOOK AT CODE

2:26:16VIOLATIONS. AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE

2:26:18I'M OUT OF MY DEPTH HERE. I

2:26:20DON'T WANT TO SPEAK O BEHALF OF

2:26:22REG SERVICES.

2:26:23>> I WILL REACH OUT TO DIRECTOR

2:26:25VELAZQUEZ. BUT WHAT I HEARD WAS

2:26:26LAST YEAR AND NOW IT'S IN

2:26:30AUGUST, WHICH I GUESS THERE HAS

2:26:33BEEN SECOND INSPTION. BUT I'M

2:26:34GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE FOR MY

2:26:38QUESTIONS. AND SEE HERE ON MY --

2:26:41I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBE

2:26:42WARREN.

2:26:43>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I'M GOING

2:26:48TO MOTION TO MOVE THESE TWO

2:26:52ITEMS FORWARD FOR 13 AND 14. CAN

2:26:53I GET A SECOND?

2:26:56>> SECOND.

2:26:56>> I'M SORRY. THE 14 WAS NOT --

2:27:0114 IS NOT A MOTION TO MOVE. IS

2:27:03THE DELIVERY OF THE LEGISLATIVE

2:27:06DIRECTIVE. BUT I DO WANT TODD

2:27:08THIS COMMENT TO WHAT YOU JUST SO

2:27:18DELICATELY REPORTED IN YOUR

2:27:19COMMUNICATION WITH DIRECTOR

2:27:20VELAZQUEZ FROM REGULATORY

2:27:22SERVICES. IN OUR LAST

2:27:23CONVERSATION, YOU TOLD ME THAT

2:27:25YOU AND HE WOULD BE WORKING

2:27:28TOGETHER AND WOULD BE COMBING

2:27:30THROUGH THIS VERY DETAILED AND

2:27:33WOULD BE PROVIDING MYSELF AND MY

2:27:37OFFICE WITH VERY DETAILED

2:27:40INFORMATION BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T

2:27:43WANT TO WRITE UP VIOLATIONS AND

2:27:44THINGS OF THAT NATURE FOR

2:27:47BUILDINGS THAT WE KNEW WERE

2:27:48GOING TO HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY

2:27:49GUTTED. SO A CITATION FOR A

2:27:54BROK LIGHT FIXTURE CAP OR A

2:27:57PLUG THAT WAS BURNT OUT DIDN'T

2:27:59MAKE SENSE IF THE WHOLE WALL

2:28:02GOTTA BE TORN DOWN. THOSE THINGS

2:28:03HAVE NOT BEEN REPORTED. AND JUST

2:28:04THE FACT THAT IT SAYS HERITAGE

2:28:08PARK LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE AND

2:28:10RECEIVING AND FILING A REPORT IN

2:28:11RESPONSE TO THE LEGISLATIVE

2:28:13DIRECTIVE THAT STILL HASN'T BEEN

2:28:16COMPLETELY DELIVERED, ON FUNDING

2:28:19AND RELOCATION EFFORTS FOR THE

2:28:21RESIDENTS OF HERITAGE PARK. IF

2:28:23WE'RE ADDING THAT LANGUAGE IN

2:28:25THERE AROUND THE LEGISLATIVE

2:28:27DIRECTIVE, I REALLY THINK THAT

2:28:28IT WOULD BEAIR TO THIS BODY

2:28:30AND TO THE MEMBERS OF COMMUNITY

2:28:33TO PROVIDE A VERY DETAILED

2:28:36INFORMATION FROM BASSETT CREEK,

2:28:39FROM REGULATORY SERVICES, FROM

2:28:41FIRE INSPECTIONS, FROM EVERYBODY

2:28:44ALL IN COLLECTIVE TOGETHER THAT

2:28:48HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT'S

2:28:51HAPPENING AT HERITAGE PARK.

2:28:54OTHERWISE, LET'S NOT PIECEMEAL

2:28:56IT TOGETHER BECAUSE WE END UP

2:28:58WITH A BUNCH OF IOMPLETE

2:29:01QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

2:29:04>> WE'RE RESPONDING TO THE

2:29:05LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. YE WE

2:29:07HAVE TALKED ABOUT LEARNING FROM

2:29:10HERITAGE PARK AS A CITY, A

2:29:11THAT WOULD REQUIRE CPED AND

2:29:14REGULATORY SERVICES TO WORK

2:29:15TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW

2:29:17THEIR PROCESSES INTERMINGLE.

2:29:18BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE

2:29:20PROCESS, IF WE GET TO A PLACE

2:29:22WHERE A HOUSING PROJECT NEEDS TO

2:29:25BE FULLY RENOVATED, THAT COSTS A

2:29:27TON OF MONEY. SO WE ARE STILL

2:29:29COMMITTED TO WORK, TO CONTINUE

2:29:31TO WORK WITH REGULATORY SERVICES

2:29:32ABOUT HOW TO WORK ON THAT. RIGHT

2:29:34NOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON

2:29:36AND COMMUNICATING TO THE COUIL

2:29:37IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN

2:29:39HERITAGE PARK NOW. AND ONCE WE

2:29:40HELP WITH THE RELOCATION AND GET

2:29:42THE RENOVATION PLAN, THENE CAN

2:29:45FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN LEARN

2:29:46FROM HERITAGE PARK.

2:29:48>> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR HANSEN. I

2:29:50APPRECIATE THAT. AND I WILL BE

2:29:52REACHING OUT TO YOU AND YOUR

2:29:54OFFICE TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW

2:29:58DEVELOPE AND THE DEVELOPMENT

2:29:59FOR HERITAGE PARK. THANK YOU.

2:30:03>> I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL

2:30:04MEMBER CHUGHTAI.

2:30:06>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. FIRST,

2:30:08I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE

2:30:09MOTION IS THAT TO SEND THIS ITEM

2:30:12FORWARD WITHOUT RECOMMEATION

2:30:13OR WITH RECOMMENDAON? I KNOW

2:30:16COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN MADE THE

2:30:17MOTION. SO IF I CAN JUST ASK HE

2:30:22>> WITHOUT RECOENDATION.

2:30:23>> WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. OKAY.

2:30:23PERFECT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE

2:30:33THE UPDATE HERE TODAY. THANK

2:30:36YOU, MS. DOBN AND DIRECTOR

2:30:40HANSEN. I THINK IT'S REALLY

2:30:45FRUSTRATING THAT SERAL OF THE

2:30:47COUNCIL MEMBERS' QUESTIONS CAN'T

2:30:48BE ANSWERED BECAUSE REGULATORY

2:30:50SERVICE IS NEEDED TO ANSWER

2:30:52THEM. AND I AM SITTING HERE

2:30:54REALLY, REALLY FRUSTRATED

2:30:55BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE

2:30:58REGULARY SERVICE DIRECTOR IS

2:31:00WATCHING THIS MEETING, IS

2:31:02TEXTING YOU ABOUT QUESTIONS

2:31:03YOU'RE BEING ASKED THAT ARE

2:31:04REALLY ABOUT HIS WOR BUT ISN'T

2:31:08AT HIS HOME COMMITTEE. I THINK

2:31:10THAT HAS JUST CONTRIBUTED

2:31:12FURTHER TO THIS DYNAMIC AROUND

2:31:14HERITAGE PARK THAT I SEE. AND

2:31:16DON'T WORRY, DIRECTOR, I'M NOT

2:31:17GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION

2:31:20THIS DYNAMIC I'VE SEEN ON THE

2:31:25ISSUE OF ADDRESSING THE HORRIFIC

2:31:27CONDITIONS THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE

2:31:30IN HERITAGE PARK ARE EXISTIN

2:31:33UNDER. THAT SUCH A SNIFICANT

2:31:34PART OF THE SYSTEMIC FAILURE

2:31:36ACTUALLY LIVED IN INSPECTIONS.

2:31:39AND YET, I SEE VERY LITTLE

2:31:41SCRUTINY FROM THIS BODY IN

2:31:45ADDRESSING WHAT WENT WRONG WITH

2:31:48INSPECTIONS THAT WE LET IT GET

2:31:50THIS BAD.

2:31:51THAT WE STOPPED INSPECTING THIS

2:31:53PROPTY AFTER 2019 AND THEN GOT

2:31:56SHOCKED ALL OF A SUDDEN IN 2026

2:31:59WHEN WE LEARNED OF HOW HORRIFIC

2:32:00OF CONDITIONS PEOPLE ARE LIVING

2:32:06IN. SO YOU KNOW, MR. CHAIR, I

2:32:08THINK THIS IS SOMETHING FOR YOU,

2:32:11AND VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY, IN THE

2:32:13FUTURE, IT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO

2:32:18HAVE DEPARTMENTS TO WHOMHIS IS

2:32:20THEIR HOME COMMITTEE TO BE

2:32:21PRESENT FOR QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF

2:32:22ASKING THEIR COLLEAGUES TO D IT

2:32:24ON THEIR BEHALF. THAT'S ALL.

2:32:25THANK YOU.

2:32:25>> ALL RIGHT. ON THAT MOTION TO

2:32:35WITHOUT RECOMMENTION AND ALSO

2:32:39FILE THE STUFF, DIRECTION,

2:32:41PRESENTATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

2:32:42SAY AYE.

2:32:43>> AYE.

2:32:44>> AND THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

2:32:46THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION

2:32:47CARRIES. WE ARE ON ITEM 16. WE

2:32:52ALREADY HAVE AROVE ITEM 15. SO

2:32:55I WILL RECOGNIZE --

2:32:56>> CHAIR. I JUST HAVE A -- IT'S

2:33:00NOT A POINT OF ORDER. IT'S JUST

2:33:02A QUESTION THAT I HAVE.

2:33:04>> SURE.

2:33:04>> WANTED TO GET AN

2:33:06UNRSTANDING FROM THE CLERKS

2:33:07HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE HERE IN

2:33:10THIS COMMITTEE WITH CAPTIONING.

2:33:11>> WE HAVE CAPTIONING UNTIL

2:33:154:30 P.M.

2:33:15>> AND I JUST WANTED TO FLAG TO

2:33:19MEMBERS HERE THAT WE WANT TO --

2:33:20WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT

2:33:22WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH. SO JUST

2:33:26FLAGGING THAT FOR NOW. AND I'M

2:33:28GOING TO ALSO TRY TO SEE IF

2:33:30THERE IS SOMETEMS THAT WE MAY

2:33:32NEED TO MOVE TO THE COMMITTEE OF

2:33:34THE WHOLE. AND I'LL JUST HAVE

2:33:36SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THAT AS WE

2:33:37PROCEED.

2:33:44>> I WILL RECOGNIZE ITEM 16 IF

2:33:46YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR

2:33:47REZONING.

2:33:49>> YES. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE

2:33:53TH REZONING FORWARD. THIS WAS

2:33:56RELATED TO THE SITE PLAN REVIEW

2:34:02APPEAL. THIS REZONING ALLOWS FOR

2:34:04THE SPLIT ZONING TO OCCUR OVER

2:34:07TWO PARCELS IN SUPPORT OF THE

2:34:1018NIT DWELLING PROJECT WITH

2:34:13THE 2,000 SQUE FEET OF

2:34:15COMMERCIAL SPACE. SO I WILL MOVE

2:34:17THAT FOR APPROVAL. AND ASK FOR A

2:34:19SECOND.

2:34:20>> SECOND.

2:34:21>> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ.

2:34:21>> I'LL BE ICK. I JUST WOULD

2:34:24WANT T GET A FOLLOW UP TO MY

2:34:26OFFICE TO THE ORDANCE OF DATA

2:34:28CENTERS BEING MENTIONED. I JUST

2:34:29WANT TO KNOW WHY THAT WAS THE

2:34:31CASE. I WT TO MAKEURE I HAVE

2:34:33THAT INFORMATION BEFORE I VOTE

2:34:34ON THURSDAY. THANK YOU.

2:34:35>> ALL RIGHT. ON THAT MOTION,

2:34:36ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

2:34:38>> AYE.

2:34:39>> AND THOSE OPPOSED S NAY.

2:34:41THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION

2:34:43CARRIES. NEXT EM, 17. THIS

2:34:48ITEM CONTINUES 2027 LICENSE FEE

2:34:52SCHEDULE.

2:34:53>> MR. CHAIR, I WANTED TO MAKE A

2:34:58PROPOSAL TO THE BODY TO REORDER

2:35:01>> OKAY.

2:35:04>> WE DO HAVE -- I WANT TO BE

2:35:06COGNIZANT OF A MEMBER OF THE

2:35:08PUBLIC THAT'S BEEN HERE WAITING

2:35:09FOR AN ITEM AND I DON'T FEEL

2:35:11LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET TO IT.

2:35:13UNLESS WE MOVE IT UP AND TAKE IT

2:35:16UP SOONER. AND THAT'S NUMBER .

2:35:18I THINK WE SHOULD DISPOSE OF

2:35:21THAT ITEM NOW BEFORE WE TAKE UP

2:35:24ITEM 17. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION

2:35:25FROM THE BODY.

2:35:27>> NO OBJECTION FROM ME. ALL

2:35:30RIGHT. SO WRE GOING TO HOLD ON

2:35:3417 AND JUMP HERE TO 21. AND THIS

2:35:37WAS OUR LAST DISCUSSION ITEM

2:35:39WHICH IS TRIO DEVELOPMENT. I

2:35:41WILL NOTE THAT WE HAVE REVISED

2:35:44STAFF REPORT IN FRONT OF US

2:35:48TODAY. WELCOME.

2:35:49>> THANK YOU CHAIR OSMAN,

2:35:53MEMBERS. CHERIE SHOQUIST, CPED

2:35:56HOUSING. I'M HERE TODAY AS YOU

2:35:58MENTIONED TO FOLLOW UP AFTER

2:36:01CONVSATIONS AND ADDITIONAL

2:36:04DISCUSSIONS HAD, STAFF IS

2:36:07RECOMMENDING A REVISED

2:36:09RECOMMENTION AUTHORIZING A

2:36:13MODIFICATION TO THE

2:36:16AFFORDABILITY LEVEL. TERMS TO

2:36:19CHANGE THE BUYER'S INCOME LIMIT

2:36:23TO 60% AMI UP TO 80% AMI ON SIX

2:36:26OFHE 10 UNITS OF THIS

2:36:28DEVELOPMENT. AND ALSO,O WAIVE

2:36:31THE SUBSIDY REQUIREMENT OF THE

2:36:33MINNEAPOLIS HOMES ACCESS PROGRAM

2:36:37TO PROVIDE DOWN PAYMENT

2:36:40ASSISTANCE FOR THE 60% AMI

2:36:42HOUSEHOLDS. AND WITH THAT BASIC

2:36:43INFORMATION I'M HAPPY TO TAKE

2:36:44ANY QUESTIONS OR ELABORATE

2:36:45FURTHER. THANK YOU.

2:36:48>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

2:36:52COLLGUES, DO I HAVE A MOTION

2:36:53FOR REVISED RECOMMENDATION?

2:36:56COUNCIL MEMBERCHAVEZ.

2:36:56>> THANK YOU, CHAIR OSMAN.

2:36:59APPROVAL OF THIS REVISED RCA AND

2:37:02WANT TO THANK STAFF, LISA AND

2:37:07COUNCIL OFFICES, INCLUDING

2:37:09COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY,

2:37:10COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN FOR THE

2:37:11CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THIS

2:37:12COMMITTEE FOR WORKING WITH US TO

2:37:13FIGURE THIS OUT.

2:37:14>> ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE

2:37:17ELSE, ON THAT MOTION, ALL THOSE

2:37:21IN MOTIONAY AYE.

2:37:23>> AYE.

2:37:25>> OPPOSED SAY NAY.

2:37:26>> THE AYES HAVE IT AND THAT

2:37:27MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE GOING BACK

2:37:32TO ITEM 17, LICENSE FEE

2:37:34SCHEDULE. A COLLEAGUES HAVE

2:37:35ANY DISCUSSION OR MOTION ABOUT

2:37:37THIS ITEM? COUNCIL MEMBER

2:37:41CHAVEZ.

2:37:42>> THANK YOU. AS YOU ALL KNOW I

2:37:44SENT AN EMAIL TO STAFF, 2027

2:37:48REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND HAS

2:37:49PROVIDED NEW NUMBERS THAT WILL

2:37:51ALLOW US TO MAKE DECISIONS AS A

2:37:53BODY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I

2:37:55MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO

2:38:00AUTHORED BY MYSELF, COUNCIL

2:38:01MEMBER VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY AND

2:38:04COUNCIL MEMB CHUGHTAI WITH A

2:38:05MOTION THAT WOULD BRING IN A 90%

2:38:08COST RECOVERY RATE WHEN IT COMES

2:38:10TO THE RENTAL LICENSES HERE

2:38:11TODAY. YEAH. SO I MAKE THAT

2:38:14MOTION.

2:38:15>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT

2:38:15MOTION. I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER

2:38:18SHAFFER, PLEASE.

2:38:19>> YES, I JUST WANTED TO SAY

2:38:21THANK YOU TO CNCIL MEMBER

2:38:22CHAVEZ FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD

2:38:23AND SPENDING A LITTLE TIME

2:38:25TALKING ABOUT IT WITH ME.ND I

2:38:27LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS

2:38:28TODAY.

2:38:28>> ALL RIGHT. ON THAT MOTION,

2:38:31ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

2:38:33>> E.

2:38:34>> AND THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

2:38:36THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION

2:38:38CARRIES. WE HAVE ITEM 18, WHICH

2:38:43IS DISCUSSION. REINSTATING A

2:38:48RENTAL DWELLING LICENSE FOR

2:38:49PETER L.

2:38:54LOCATED AT 3016 COLFAX. I'LL

2:38:54INVITE STAFF TO GIVE US MORE

2:38:56DETAILS ABOUT THIS ITEM.

2:38:57WELCOME.

2:39:00>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON,

2:39:02CHAIR OSMAN AND COMMITTEE

2:39:03MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JDAN HOOKS

2:39:06ANI'M THE RENTAL LICENSE

2:39:06OPERATIONS ANALYST WITH

2:39:08REGULATORY SERVICES. I'M HERE

2:39:10TODAY TO PRESENT THE LICENSE

2:39:12REINSTATEMENT FOR 3016 AND 3018

2:39:14COLFAX AVENUE SOUTH. TO FIRST

2:39:17GIVE BACKGROUND ON THE PROPERTY,

2:39:19IN AUGUST OF 2012, THE CITY

2:39:22ISSUED AN ORDER DIRECTING THE

2:39:24PROPERTY OWNER TO REPAIR THE

2:39:26GARAGE ROOF, PAINT THE

2:39:28DWELLING'S WOOD TRIM, REPAIR T

2:39:31DECK AND INSTALL EXTERIOR

2:39:34HANDRAILS ON THE FRONT STEPS.

2:39:35THE OWNER DID NOT COMPLETE THE

2:39:37REQUIRED WORK AND SEVERAL

2:39:38CITATIONS WERE ISSUED OVER THE

2:39:39NEXT YEAR AND A HALF. IN MARCH

2:39:43OF 2014, A DIRECTOR'S

2:39:45DETERMINATION OF NONCOMPLIANCE

2:39:46WAS ISSUED DUE TO UNPAID

2:39:50ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS. AND

2:39:51AFTER CONTINUEDNONCOMPLIANCE,

2:39:56THE RENTAL LICENSE WAS REVOKED

2:39:58IN 2014. FOLLOWING THE

2:40:00REVOCATION, THE REINSTATEMENT

2:40:02INSPECTION PROCESS BEGAN IN

2:40:04JANUARY OF 2015. AND THAT

2:40:06INSPECTION WAS APPROVED IN

2:40:07OCTOBEOF THAT YEAR. WE WERE

2:40:14UNABLE TO LOCATE ANY FURTHER

2:40:17DOMENTATION TOWARD TAKING

2:40:18STEPS. AND NO ADDITIONAL ACTION

2:40:23OCCURRED. DURING AN EXTERIOR

2:40:24NUISANCE COMPLAINT INSPECTION I

2:40:262025, STAFF DISCOVERED THAT BOTH

2:40:28UNITS WERE OCCUPIED DESPITE THE

2:40:30LICENSE REVOCATION.

2:40:31FROM THERE, AN ORDER WAS ISSUED

2:40:37REQUIRING THE PROPERTY OWNER

2:40:38CATED THE PROPERTY. ANOTHER

2:40:40ORDER REQUIRED THE PROPERTY

2:40:41OWNER TO PAY RELOCATION

2:40:42ASSISTANCE TO THE RENTERS.

2:40:47HOUSING LIAISONS MET WITH

2:40:50RESIDENTS, INFORMED THEM OF

2:40:51THEIR RIGHTS AND PROVIDED

2:40:53RESOURCES. FROM THERE, THE

2:40:56PROPERTY OWNER BEGAN WORKING

2:40:57WITH STAFF AND EXTENSIONS WERE

2:41:01GRANTED. AFTER ALL THE

2:41:03REINSTEMENT REQUIREMENTS WERE

2:41:04MET, THE DECISION WAS MADE TO

2:41:06REQUEST PAYMENT OF LICENSING

2:41:07FEES FOR THE YEARS THE PROPERTY

2:41:10OPERATED WITHOUT A LICENSE.

2:41:11AGAIN, HOUSING LIAISONS VISITED

2:41:13THE PROPERTY TO ENSURE RENTERS

2:41:15WERE AWARE OF THEIR RIGHTS, AND

2:41:18THE OWNER SUBMITTED PAYMENT OF

2:41:20OUTSTANDING FEES ALONG WITH THE

2:41:22AGREEMENT. THE PROPERTY OWNER

2:41:23HAS NOW PAID MORE THAN $4,000 IN

2:41:26FEES, COMPLETED THE REQUIRED

2:41:28RENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS RKSHOP,

2:41:30SUBMITTED AND RECEIVED AN

2:41:31APPROVED MANAGEMENT PLAN, HAS NO

2:41:34OUTSTANDING FINES OR FEES OWED

2:41:35TO THE CITY OR THE COUNTY. AND

2:41:41PASSED THE RENTAL LICENSE

2:41:42INSPECTION. THROUGHOUT THIS

2:41:44PROCESS, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS

2:41:46COMMUNICATED WIT CITY STAFF AND

2:41:47COMPLETED ALL REQUIREMENTS. WE

2:41:50HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH

2:41:51COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI'S OFFICE

2:41:53IN WARD 10 TO MAKE T COUNCIL

2:41:55MEMBER AWARE OF THE LACK OF

2:41:58RENTAL LICENSE AND THE ACTIONS

2:41:59WE'RE TAKING TO BRING THE

2:42:00PROPERTY BACK IN TO COMPLIANCE.

2:42:02AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY

2:42:04FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS FROM THERE.

2:42:05FOR THESE REASONS, REGULATORY

2:42:07SERVICES RECOMMENDS

2:42:09REINSTATEMENT OF THE RENTAL

2:42:10LICENSE FOR 3016 AND 38 COLFAX

2:42:12AVENUE SOUTH. AND THIS CONCLUDES

2:42:14MY PRESENTATION. I WILL STAND

2:42:16FOR QUESTIONS Y MAY HAVE.

2:42:17THANK YOU.

2:42:17>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL

2:42:20MEMBER CHUGHTAI, WOULD YOU LIKE

2:42:21TO MAKE A MOTION?

2:42:22>> YES, MR. VICE PRESIDENT, I

2:42:24WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.

2:42:26>> SECOND.

2:42:26>> ALL RIGHT. SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

2:42:28ON THAT MOTION, ALL THOSE IN

2:42:30FAVOR SAY AYE.

2:42:31>> AYE.

2:42:32>> AND THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

2:42:34THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION

2:42:36CARRIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL

2:42:38RIGHT. WE'RE GOING ALONG HERE.

2:42:40WE HAVE ITEM 19, WHICH IS

2:42:45AUTHORIZING SUBORDINATION OF

2:42:48EXISTING LOAN OF SABATHANI

2:42:50COUNITY CENTER. ARE THERE

2:42:51STAFF THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK

2:42:55ON THIS ITEM?

2:43:00>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR OSMAN.

2:43:03MONICA ROMERO, BUSINESS

2:43:06DEVELOPMENT WITHIN CPED.

2:43:13SABATHANI COMMUNITY CENTER IS

2:43:16REQUESTING -- NEW DEBT WITH

2:43:18SUNRISE BANKS IN ORDER TO CLOSE

2:43:22THE GAP OF THE COST FOR

2:43:26INSTALLING A GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM.

2:43:33THE BANK HAS APPROVED SUNRISE

2:43:36BANKS WITH $4,900,000. SABATHANI

2:43:43HAS A PREVIOUS LOAN WITH THE

2:43:45CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. A

2:43:46FORGIVABLE ONE SINCE 2023 OF

2:43:50$547,000. BECAUSE OF THAT

2:43:53PREVIOUS LOAN, SUNRISE BANKS

2:43:56WOULD PREFER THAT WE SUBORDINATE

2:43:57TO THEM. SO THAT IS THE REQUEST.

2:44:03MOST OF THE COST OF THE

2:44:05GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM IS FINANCED BY

2:44:06GRANTS. SO WE ANALYZED THE

2:44:16REQUEST AND OUR RISK POSITION IS

2:44:17UNDER 100% OF THE LOAN TO VALUE.

2:44:21THAT MEANS IF ANYTHING GOES

2:44:25WRONG AND THE SABATHANI WOULD

2:44:29NEED TO PAY BACK, THEY CAN

2:44:35BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER DEBT

2:44:36THAT HOLDS A LIEN ON THE

2:44:42PROPERTY. SABATHANI DOESN'T HAVE

2:44:44ANY OTHER DEBT THAN OURS AND

2:44:47WITH SUNRISE BANKS. LET ME KNOW

2:44:49IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION

2:44:53>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR

2:44:54MEMBERS? THANK Y SO MUCH.

2:44:55SEEING NO ACTION HERE, NO

2:44:57DISCUSSION HERE, I WILL MOVE

2:44:58IS ITEM FOR APPROVAL. ALL

2:45:02THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

2:45:03>> AYE.

2:45:03>> AND THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

2:45:05THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION

2:45:06CARRIES.

2:45:07>>HANK YOU, SIR.

2:45:09>> THANK YOU. IM 20 IS UPPER

2:45:14HARBOR PERFORMANCE ARTS CENTER.

2:45:16I WILL INVITE THE STAFF TO GIVE

2:45:18US MORE DETAILS ABOUT THIS.

2:45:19WELCOM

2:45:21>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR OSMAN,

2:45:23COMMITTEE MEMBERS. IT'S GOOD TO

2:45:24BE IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN. I'M

2:45:27HILLARY HOLMES, WORKING ON THE

2:45:30REDEVELOPMENT CITY OWNED UPPER

2:45:32HARBOR SITE. THE ACTIONS ARE

2:45:33RELATED TO THE COMMITTEE

2:45:35PERFORMING ARTS CENTER

2:45:37DEVELOPMENT ATD THE UPPER HA

2:45:41HARBOR. CPED STAFF IS

2:45:43RECOMMENDING -- TO PORT OF

2:45:44MINNEAPOLIS LLC TO ASSIST IN THE

2:45:46CONSTRUCTION OF THE PERFORMING

2:45:47ARTS CENTER. ALSO BEFORE YOU ARE

2:45:50REVISED TERMS FOR LONG-TERM

2:45:53LEASE RIDESHARE -- UPPER HARBOR

2:45:57SITE. I WILL DESCRIBE THOSE

2:45:58ACTION BUT PROVIDE A QUICK

2:46:00UPDATE ON OUR WORK ON THIS SITE.

2:46:09DISPLAYING A SITE PHOTO, OF THE

2:46:22PROGRESS. PORT OF MINNEAPOLIS

2:46:23IS -- APPROVED A PACKAGE OF

2:46:24ACTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE

2:46:26AMPHITHEATER. IN DECEMBER OF

2:46:282027, PORT OF MINNEAPOLIS CLOSED

2:46:29ON THE FINANCING FOR THE

2:46:31PROJECT. IN APRIL 2026, SITE

2:46:33WORK CMENCED AND WE CELEBRATED

2:46:35THE OFFICIAL GROUNDBREAKING OF

2:46:36THE AMPHITHEATER. CONSTRUCTION

2:46:39HAS CONTINUED SINCE THEN. THIS

2:46:41FALL WE CELEBTED THE GRAND

2:46:43OPENING OF THE UPPER HARBOR

2:46:46REGIONAL PARK. PARKWAY ON THE

2:46:48SITE. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE

2:46:50NEWER FRT PARK. IN THE

2:46:53BACKGROUND, THE AMPHITHEATER

2:46:55UNDER CONSTRUCTION. CONSTRUCTION

2:46:57COSTS HAVE INEASED. INCASED

2:46:59COSTS ARE THE RESULT OF THE NAPE

2:47:03NATURE OF THE FACILITY. UPGRADED

2:47:06ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING

2:47:08UTILITIES, AND UNFORESEEN SOIL

2:47:11CONDITIONS. STAFF IS

2:47:12RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A

2:47:14$2 MILLION LOAN T PROVIDE

2:47:16FUNDING OF CONSTRUCTION FOR THE

2:47:19AMPHITHEATER. LOAN OF AN

2:47:20INTEREST RATE OF 7% WITH

2:47:22INTEREST CAPITALIZED AND

2:47:25PAYMENTS DEFERRED UNTIL

2:47:26DECEMBER, 2028. AMORTIZED UNTIL

2:47:32MATURITY. THE SOURCE IS THE

2:47:36COMMON PROJECT POOL TIF. COMMON

2:47:40PROJECT GEOGRAPHIC AREA. THIS

2:47:43FUNDING IS RESTRICTED IN USE.

2:47:48ONLY USEDOR CONSTRUCTION THAT

2:47:50IS DETERMINED TO BE ELIGIBLE.

2:47:51THE CITY HAS USED THIS FUNDING

2:47:53URCE AT UPPER HARBOR TO DATE

2:47:56TO HELP FOR SITE PREPARATION. WE

2:48:00ARE ALSO SEEKING APPROVAL TO

2:48:02REVISE THE LEASE TERMS FOR

2:48:04PARCEL 7A AND 7B, AS I'LL

2:48:07DISPLAY ON THE UPPER HARBOR

2:48:08PARCEL MAP. PORT OF MINNEAPOLIS

2:48:26IS DEVELOPING AND OPERATING A --

2:48:29THE LEASE AGREEMENT PROVIDES FOR

2:48:32A DYNAMIC OFF PREMISES SIGN FOR

2:48:34THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER KNOWN

2:48:38AS A MARQUEE ABO BILLBOARD. SIN

2:48:44THAT TIME, PORT OF MINNEAPOLIS

2:48:47HAS BEEN EXPLORING THE ADDITION.

2:48:50THE PROPOSED REVISED TERMS

2:48:53INCLUDE ESTABLISHING MORE DESIGN

2:48:54PARAMETERS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR

2:48:56THE MARQUEE BILLBOARD.

2:49:01DOUBLE-FACING BILLBOARD TO

2:49:04POSSIBLY RELOCATE TO PARCEL 7A

2:49:05AS DETAILED IN THE ATTACHED TERM

2:49:10SHEET. TOGETHER, THESE ACTIONS

2:49:12WOULD PROVIDE THE FUNDING

2:49:14NECESSARY AND OPEN THE FACILITY

2:49:16ON SCHEDULE. THE APPROVAL OF

2:49:18THESE TERMSRE TIME SENSITIVE

2:49:19FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. THAT

2:49:20CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. AND I

2:49:22STAND FOR ANY QUESTIS. THANK

2:49:23YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

2:49:24>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TT

2:49:26PRESENTATION. ARE THERE ANY

2:49:28QUESTIONS? FOR STAFF. ALL

2:49:31RIGH SEEING NO ONE HERE, ON

2:49:34THAT MOTION, I WILL MAKE A

2:49:36MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. ALL

2:49:38THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

2:49:39>> AYE.

2:49:40>> AND THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

2:49:42THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION

2:49:44CARRIES. >> THANK YOU.

2:49:45>> THANKS A LOT. WE ARE ON OUR

2:49:47LAST DISCUSSION ITEM,HICH

2:49:49IS -- NO. WE HAVE TAKEN ALREADY.

2:49:54OH, THERE'S ONE, 22, WHICH IS

2:49:58RECEIVE AND FILE FOR LEGISLATIVE

2:49:59DIRECTIVE RESPONSE RELATED TO

2:50:02THE 38th STREET THRIVE PLAN.

2:50:05DIRECTOR HANSEN.

2:50:06>> CHAIR OSMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS,

2:50:08ERIC HANSEN. I WILL JUMP TO THE

2:50:10QUICK. WHAT YOU HAVE IS A

2:50:12RESPONSE TO LEGISLATIVE

2:50:13DIRECTIVE ABOUT INFORMATION

2:50:14AROUND THE 38th STREET THRIVE

2:50:16PLAN. AS YOU RECALL, THRIVE PLAN

2:50:17WAS A COMMUNITY-BASED PLAN THAT

2:50:19THE CITY ACKNOWLEDGED A FEW

2:50:21YEARS AGO. YOU ASKED ABOUT

2:50:23UPDATES OF PROGRESS. T CITY

2:50:24HAS A DIRECT AND INDIRECT ROLE.

2:50:27IN THE DIRECT ROLE, WE

2:50:30ESTABLISHED CULTURAL DISTRICTS

2:50:31WHICH IS 1.1 IN THE PLAN. WE

2:50:33SUPPORTED COMMEMORATIVE STREETS,

2:50:34WHICH IS 1.2. AND PUBLIC

2:50:38INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN

2:50:385.3.ND WE PUT COMMEMORATIVE

2:50:46STREETS, THE INCLUSION OF PUBLIC

2:50:50GREEN SPACES NEAR FIRE STATION

2:50:5217 AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN GEORGE

2:50:53FLOYD SQUARE. OTHER STRATEGIES

2:50:54THAT THE CITY HAS HAD A

2:50:58SUPPORTIVE ROLE ARE DEPLOYMENT

2:50:59OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDING.

2:51:01WE JUST HEARD ABOUT SABATHANI

2:51:03THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH AMERICAN

2:51:06RESCUE PLAN. WE PUT $1.3 MILLION

2:51:09INTO THEIR PROVEMENTS. WE HAVE

2:51:12PUT FUNDING IN -- WE HAVE

2:51:15RECEIVED CONGRESSIONALLY

2:51:18RECTED SPENDING FROM THE

2:51:19FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR COMMONLY

2:51:20KNOWN AS EARMARKS TO SUPPORT

2:51:24HOMEBUYER DOWN PAYMENT

2:51:25ASSISTANCE AND REPAIR TO HOMES.

2:51:27WE HAVE PROVIDED SUPPORT AT 38th

2:51:31STREET UNDER THE GREAT STREETS

2:51:33BANNER, THE BUSINS TECHNICAL

2:51:33ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, AND

2:51:36OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY FUND, THAT

2:51:39HELP WITH FACADE IMPROVEMENTS,

2:51:41TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FOR

2:51:42BUSINESSES OPENING AND

2:51:43BUSINESSES BUYING THEIR OWN

2:51:44BUSINESSES. AND HEALTH

2:51:47DEPARTMENT HAS DEPLOYED

2:51:48RESOURCES FOR THE RESILIENCY

2:51:52HUBS, HEALTH ASSESSMENTS, AND

2:51:53PROGRAMMING FOR EDUCATIONAL

2:51:57PARTNERSHIPS AT SABATHANI. THE

2:51:59SECOND PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE

2:52:01DIRECTIVE ASKED ABOUT UPDATES ON

2:52:03THE $1.2 MILLION OF CPED FUNDING

2:52:07TO SUPPORT THE THRIVE PLAN. 650

2:52:12FOR CAPITAL DISTRICT FUND.

2:52:14$100,000 FOR ADVANCED MARKETING

2:52:15AND BRANDING. $250,000, ONE TIME

2:52:25TO CREATE A LAND TRUST. EXISTING

2:52:30PROGRAMS THIS FALL. THE FIRST

2:52:32ONE CAPITAL DISTRICT FUND WILL

2:52:34BE A CARVE OUT AND OWNERSHIP

2:52:37OPPORTUNITY FUND OR THE GREAT

2:52:39STREETS G FUNDING. IF YOU HAVE

2:52:41A NONPROFIT, YOU GO THROUGH

2:52:42GREAT STREETS. IF YOU HAVE A FOR

2:52:45PROFIT, YOU GO THROUGH CAPITAL

2:52:46FUND. -- DISTRICT SUPPORT FOR A

2:52:50SPECIAL CARVE OUT FOR 38th

2:52:52STREETHRIVE BRANDING AND

2:52:53MARKETING ACTIVITIES. NUMBER

2:52:56THREE WOULD BE A COMPETITIVE --

2:52:58WOULD BE FUNDING FOR COMPETITIVE

2:53:00LAND TRUST WE'VE BEEN WORKING

2:53:02WITH THE COMMUNITY, CITY OF

2:53:04LAKES COMMUNITY LAND TRUST TO

2:53:06SEE IF IT'S A VIABLE MODEL. WE

2:53:07HAVE DETERMINED THAT IT IS. SO

2:53:08WE'LL BE OFFERING THAT THROUGH

2:53:11THE MINNEAPOLIS HOMES PROGRAM.

2:53:14SO THERE'S NO NEW GUIDELINES WE

2:53:15NEEDED FOR ANY OF THOSE THREE

2:53:17PROGRAMS. THE FOURTH ONE, THE

2:53:21$200,000 FOR CONSULTANT TO

2:53:27CREATE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

2:53:29CORPORATION, FOR LACK OF A

2:53:31BETTER TERM. WE HAVE ISSUED RFPs

2:53:35IN THE PAST FOR THIS WORK. THAT

2:53:37WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. WE

2:53:39VE LEARNED SINCE THAT THE CITY

2:53:42IS NOT -- DOES NOT HAVE THE

2:53:44POWER TO CREATE ORGANIZATIONS

2:53:45WHETHER FOR PROFIT OR NONPROFIT.

2:53:47AND THERORE, WE DON'T BELIEVE

2:53:49THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS

2:53:51AS WAS INTENDED BY THE COUNCIL.

2:53:53AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE

2:53:54QUESTIONS. SO I WILL END THERE.

2:53:56>> WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TIME

2:53:58FOR QUESTIONS. THERE'S ABOUT

2:54:00THREEINUTES LEFT. COUNCIL

2:54:01MEMBER CHAVEZ.

2:54:02>> THANK YOU, I'LL BE QUICK

2:54:04BECAUSE I GOT LOTS OF QUESTIONS.

2:54:07CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT YOU

2:54:08MEAN BY CAE OUT. DOWNTOWN

2:54:12ASSETS TO SPORT THIS PROGRAM.

2:54:14IT WAS $1.2 MILLION. MY CONCERN

2:54:19IS WE'RE GOING TO BE

2:54:23EARMARKING -- CAN YOU DESCRIBE

2:54:24WHAT YOU MEAN BY CARVE OUT?

2:54:28>> WE'RE OFFERING THESE THROUGH

2:54:30E PROGRAM GUIDELINES. WE'RE

2:54:31USING THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

2:54:34IT'S MORE FUNDING BUT ONLY

2:54:36CARVED OUT USED FOR 38th STREET.

2:54:40>> OTHER PLACES LIKE THE SMALL

2:54:43BUSINESSES RESILIENCY FUND.

2:54:44>> IT WILL BE ON TOP OF THOSE

2:54:46OTHER SOURCES.

2:54:47>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T

2:54:51FUND THINGS LIKE WE'VE FUNDED

2:54:52THINGS AND SOMEHOW THE MONEY DI

2:54:57CAN'T USE THE $200,000 FOR

2:55:01ONE-TIME -- BUT THAT'S NOT FULLY

2:55:04ACCURATE. I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING

2:55:05TO CREATE AN ORGANIZATION, YOU

2:55:06DON'T HAVE TO CREATE A NEW

2:55:09ORGANIZATION. SO WHERE'S THE

2:55:10CONFUSION THERE?

2:55:12>> CHAIR OSMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER

2:55:14LANGUA OF THE BUDGET

2:55:15AMENDMENT, IT WAS -- AND I DON'T

2:55:16HAVE THE LANGUAGE I FRONT OF

2:55:19ME -- WAS TO FURTHER THE

2:55:22CREATION OF AN ORGANIZATION. I'M

2:55:25PARAPHRASING THE, OF COURSE.

2:55:29AND THERE, WE'RE AUALLY DOING

2:55:31INTENTIONAL WORK TO CREATE AN

2:55:32ORGANIZATION FELT LIKE IT

2:55:33CROSSED THE LINE OF THEOWERS

2:55:34OF THE CITY.

2:55:35>> BUT DO YOU THINK WE CAN STILL

2:55:37USE E MONEY TO IMPLEMENT THE

2:55:38PLAN?

2:55:39>> CHAIR OSMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER

2:55:40CHAVEZ, WE HAVE STAFF THAT CAN

2:55:42HELP IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAMS THAT

2:55:45YOU HAVE DESIGNATED THE

2:55:48$1.2 MILLION TOWARDS EXCEPT FOR

2:55:48THAT COMPONENT OF IT. IF THE

2:55:53BODY WERE TO REPROGRAM THAT --

2:55:57>> I'LL BE QUICK. THERE'S TWO

2:56:00THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO

2:56:01FIGURE OUT. THERE'S $200,000

2:56:04THAT I WILL NOT ALLOW TO BE SENT

2:56:06TO SOME OTHER USE. BECAUSE IT

2:56:08SHOULD BE SENT TO GEORGE FLOYD

2:56:11SQUARE. -- I'M STILL INTERESTED

2:56:12IN THIS IMPLEMENTATION. BECAUSE

2:56:15THIS PLAN NEEDS TO GET

2:56:16IMPLEMENTED FULLY. THANK YOU.

2:56:17I'LL LET IT GO.

2:56:18>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WILL

2:56:20DIRECT THE STAFF TO FILE THAT

2:56:21REPORT. AND SEEING NO FURTHER

2:56:24BUSINESS BEFORE US, WITH NO

2:56:26OBJECTION, I'LL DECLARE THIS

2:56:28MEETING ADJOURNED. THANKS,

2:56:28EVERYONE.