2026-10-13 - Committee of the Whole

Summary

Outcomes below come from the city's marked agenda, which records the action taken on each item; the notes that follow come from the meeting video.

  • Consent: set a public hearing for October 27, 2026 on the Government Structure Ordinance (file 2026-00178).
  • Approved a resolution asking Minneapolis Public Schools to delay any final vote on its closure and deprogramming plan and to develop a comprehensive strategy (Minneapolis Public Schools Closure Plan).
  • Approved a request that the City Attorney's Office analyze whether the Council can subpoena the Administration (Council Subpoena Authority).
  • Received and filed the report on the business regulatory environment (Business Regulatory Environment Report).
  • Addendum: approved an additional Minneapolis Police Foundation donation for officers to attend two police chiefs' conferences in Orlando, October 21-28 (MPD Conference Gift Acceptance).
  • Ten of 13 members were recorded present (Council Members Warren and Whiting absent per the marked agenda); Council Member Chowdhury chaired and Council Member Chughtai was vice chair.

Based on human-uploaded captions, which may still contain errors in names and numbers.

Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk):

Topic Minutes Share
Business Regulatory Environment Report 54 42%
Council Subpoena Authority 24 19%
Minneapolis Public Schools Closure Plan 22 17%
Government Structure Ordinance 12 9%
Los Andes Latin Bistro License Settlement 1 1%
Other business 15 12%
  • Tuesday, October 13, 2026.
  • The recording starts at the first caption (0:17) and the captions end at 2:09:21 with adjournment; there were no recesses or gaps.
  • Council Member Chowdhury chaired.
  • Ten of 13 members were present at the opening roll call (Council Member Warren, Council Vice President Osman and Council Member Whiting absent); Osman joined at about 11:44.
  • These are committee votes only; items go to the full Council on Thursday, October 15.

Other business

0:17-11:57, 1:20:11-1:23:12, 2:09:15-2:09:21

  • Roll call, quorum and agenda: Chowdhury added a walk-on item from the Minneapolis Police Department and moved the receive-and-file item first; the agenda was adopted by voice vote.
  • Standing committee reports (no discussion, no votes): Budget Committee chair Chughtai reported presentations on the Mayor's recommended 2027 budget, a public hearing on October 7 and a second one on October 19 at 6:05 p.m., with no items to forward. Business, Housing and Zoning (12 items) included the Los Andes settlement, sent without recommendation, the Metro Blue Line extension contract, dissolving the Minneapolis Development Finance Committee and decertifying several tax increment financing districts. Climate and Infrastructure (12 items, presented by Council Member Wonsley) included 2027 streetlight and street maintenance assessment rates, several construction bids and the HERC Waste Disposal Contract amendment with Hennepin County, which Wonsley tied to zero-waste work and closing the Hennepin Energy Recovery Center. Enterprise and Labor Relations (nine items, presented by Council Member Palmisano) had no controversial items, including a settlement, a Local 36 winter work reserve letter and a contract amendment for the Minneapolis Democracy Center project. Public Health, Safety and Equity (26 items, presented by Council Member Chavez) included the Cellebrite forensic software contract (sent without recommendation), the Health Department Master Contracts, the independent after action review in the Mariah Samuels After Action Review, a recommendation to deny the Community Bridges contract in the Mobile Crisis Response Contract, and the three audit items in MPD Audit Oversight Directives.
  • Police conference gift acceptance (walk-on): Commander Brown of the police department's government affairs and finance unit said donors covered the full cost of sending members to the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference in Florida (October 21 to 28), after the Council had asked that the earlier $16,000 gift be topped up so the department's budget overage would not grow; an officer is a nominee for an international officer of the year award. Chowdhury moved approval and Council President Payne thanked Chavez for pressing the question. Approved by voice vote.

Business Regulatory Environment Report

11:57-1:06:17

  • A receive-and-file presentation by Ashley Zook of Legislative Research and Oversight on a landscape review of how cities are improving the regulatory environment for businesses, requested in a staff direction brought by Council Member Vetaw. The review found three common approaches: reviewing and reducing regulations, a business concierge or one-stop shop, and online permitting and licensing portals.
  • Local business groups described Minneapolis as complex and hard to navigate; the city's enterprise licensing and permitting reform is under way, and a new online license and permit system will pilot this month with six health permits.
  • Council Member Shaffer called the findings a call to action; Wonsley questioned the emphasis on reducing regulations, noting the state economic development agency and city staff cited costs and construction more than licensing, and asked how streamlining can protect inspection quality; Osman described communication failures between departments and called multi-month waits unacceptable. Zook said she had not studied fees or cost savings and did not interview individual business owners.
  • Received and filed by the chair.

Government Structure Ordinance

1:06:23-1:18:45

  • The consent agenda's one item set a public hearing for October 27, 2026 on an ordinance revising the city government structure. Wonsley explained it would eliminate the Office of Community Safety and shift its work to the Neighborhood Safety department, eliminate the Department of Racial Equity, Inclusion and Belonging and the Performance Management and Innovation division, and carries no budget changes, which would be handled in budget markup.
  • Chughtai said the aim is to finish this work in committee in time to send it to Mayor Frey alongside the budget. Shaffer urged collaboration to avoid a veto that is sustained; Deputy City Attorney Abelson said staff would prepare a memo on the effect of a budget veto. The hearing was set by voice vote.

Los Andes Latin Bistro License Settlement

1:18:58-1:20:08

  • Chavez acknowledged community leaders and advocates who came to the chamber to oppose the Los Andes license and could not testify because the item was not noticed for public comment.

Minneapolis Public Schools Closure Plan

1:23:13-1:45:27

  • A resolution led by Vetaw with several co-authors asks Minneapolis Public Schools to allow more time for community engagement and a comprehensive strategy before school closures and mergers. Vetaw said the school board might announce a change that evening and she might withdraw the item at the full Council.
  • Stevenson, Chowdhury and Wonsley described affected schools in their wards and urged the district not to close schools; Wonsley wants closures abandoned. Palmisano supported the resolution's language but warned that the district has not met its own goals and urged honest engagement. Shaffer hoped redistricting stays on the table. Vetaw said the city does not control the district and called for bringing about 2,000 students back into the district.
  • After Chavez asked, the item was moved forward with a recommendation rather than without. Approved on a roll call, 11 ayes, none opposed.

Council Subpoena Authority

1:45:29-2:09:15

  • A staff direction from Council leaders asks the City Attorney's Office for a legal analysis of the Council's subpoena authority. Payne said the Mayor stood by his letter limiting staff time before committees and that some Minnesota cities can compel city officials to appear; he wants a report back early next year. Wonsley moved it and said transparency must not depend on who holds office.
  • Chughtai and Chavez cited inaccurate or missing information from the administration, including the City Auditor's finding that a list of data-sharing agreements with federal law enforcement could not be obtained. Payne added that the Auditor also wants subpoena power for people outside the city enterprise.
  • Shaffer opposed it as a poor use of legal time and urged working it out directly with the administration. Palmisano called it beyond the charter but said she would vote yes to settle the question. Osman supported added oversight. Approved on a roll call, 10 ayes, 1 no (Shaffer).

Agenda

  1. Consent: Government structure implementation ordinance (2026-00178), setting a public hearing for October 27, 2026. Action taken: public hearing set. See Government Structure Ordinance.
  2. Discussion: Minneapolis Public Schools proposed school closure plan (2026-01158), a resolution calling on the district to delay any final vote, consider alternatives and develop a comprehensive strategy on enrollment, finances, facilities and long-term stability. Action taken: approved. See Minneapolis Public Schools Closure Plan.
  3. Discussion: Council subpoena authority (2026-01166), requesting a City Attorney legal analysis of the Council's authority to subpoena the Administration and the legal avenues that could provide it. Action taken: approved. See Council Subpoena Authority.
  4. Receive and file: City policies and practices within the business regulatory environment (2026-00688), with a landscape analysis of other cities. Action taken: received and filed. See Business Regulatory Environment Report.
  5. Addendum: Gift acceptance from the Minneapolis Police Foundation (2026-01034), an additional donation for officers to attend the Major Cities Chiefs Association and International Association of Chiefs of Police conferences in Orlando, October 21-28, 2026. Action taken: approved. See MPD Conference Gift Acceptance.
  6. Reports of committees: Budget Committee (October 5-9 and 13), Business, Housing and Zoning (October 6), Climate and Infrastructure (October 8), Enterprise and Labor Relations (October 5) and Public Health, Safety and Equity (October 7); referred to the October 15 Council meeting.

Next Committee of the Whole meeting: October 27, 2026.

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Transcript

00:17[ GAVEL ]>> GOOD AFTERNOON AND O

00:20THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

00:22MEETING FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER

00:2413th, 2026.

00:25MY NAME IS AURIN CWDHURY, AND

00:28I'M THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE.

00:29I'LL CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING

00:31TO ORDER, AND ASK THE CLERK TO

00:31CALL THE ROLL TO VERIFY THE

00:32PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.

00:37>> COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE PRESENT.

00:40>> WONSLEY

00:41>> PRESENT.

00:43>> GREENVILLE.

00:44>> PRESENT.

00:45VETAW

00:46>> PRESENT.

00:46>> WARREN IS ABSENT.

00:47OSMAN IS ABSENT.

00:49SHAFER

00:50PRESENT

00:51>> STENSON.

00:52>> PRESENT.

00:52>> CHAVEZ.

00:53>> PRESENT.

00:54>> WHITING IS ABSENT.

00:56>> PALMISANO.

00:57>> PRESENT.

00:58>> VICE CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

01:00>> PRESENT.

01:00AND CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

01:03>> PRESENT.

01:03>> THERE ARE TEN MEMBERS

01:04PRESENT.

01:06>> THANK YOU.

01:06CLERK, LET THE RECORD REFLECT

01:07THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM.

01:08BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING LETO

01:11EVERYONE THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE

01:11BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER

01:14PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

01:14THE BROADCT INCLUDE REAL TIME

01:16CAPTIONING TO INCREASE

01:18ACCESSIBILITY FOR THE ENTIRE

01:19COMMITY, SO IT'S IMPORTANT

01:20THAT ALL SPEAKERS BE MINDFUL OF

01:21THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH, SO

01:23TH OUR CAPTIONERS CAN

01:24CAREFULLY CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE

01:27ALL COMMENTS FOR THEROADCAST.

01:28WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO PLEASE

01:30MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY

01:32OF THEIR COMMENTS.

01:34COLLEAGUES, OUR AGENDA IS IN

01:35FRONT OF US, AND I HAVE ONE

01:37AMENDMENT TO MAKE BEFORE WE

01:38ADOPT THE AGENDA.

01:39WE HAVE A WALK-ON ITEM FROM THE

01:42MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENTRET

01:47ACCEPTANCE FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS

01:47POLICE FOUNDATION FOR

01:49CONFERENCES BOTH IN FLORIDA FROM

01:53OCTOBER 21st TO THE 28th.

01:54WITHOUT OBJECTION, I'LL ADD THIS

01:55TO THE TOP OF OUR DISCUSSION

01:58AGENDA.

02:02ADDITIONALLY, IF THERE IS NO

02:03OBJECTION, I'M GOING TO HAVE US

02:04START WITH OUR RECEIVE AND FILE

02:06ITEM, AS I BELIEVE ALL OF OUR

02:07ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA MAY GENERATE

02:10A DISCUSSION AFTER, AND WE'LL

02:12TAKE THAT UP AFTER OUR REPORTS

02:14OF STANDINGOMMITTEES.

02:17WITH THAT, I WILL ADD THAT TO

02:23OUR AGENDA FOR THE DISCUSSION,

02:27AND I WILL MOVE THE AGENDA

02:31FORWARD.

02:31ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

02:34[ AYES RESPOND ]

02:35THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

02:37WE HAVE THE AGENDA BEFORE US.

02:40AND NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE

02:41REPORT OF OUR STANDING

02:42COMMITTEES BEGINNING WITH OUR

02:43BUDGET COMMITTEE CHAIR.

02:47VICE CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

02:48>>HANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

02:50THE BUDGET COMMITTEE HAS

02:51CONTINUED TO RECEIVE REPORTS AND

02:51PRESENTATIONS RELATED TO THE

02:53MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED 2027 BUDGET.

02:55SINCE THE LAST COUNCIL MTING,

02:57WE'VE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING

02:59PRESENTATIONS.

03:00REGARDING THE FIREEPARTMENT,

03:01EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, 9-1-1 OR

03:04THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS

03:06CENTER, NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY,

03:07ARTS AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS,

03:09COMMUNITY PLANNING AND ECONOMIC

03:10DEVELOPMENT, CIVIL RIGHTS,

03:12MAYOR'S OFFICE, OFFICE OF CITY

03:14CLERK, OFFICE CITY AUDITOR,

03:15SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND CONSENT

03:17DECREE AND HUMAN RESOURCES.WE AC

03:19HEARING ON OCTOBER 7th TO

03:22RECEIVE COMMENTS RELATED TO THE

03:232027 RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

03:25OUR NEXT MEETING, OCTOBER 19th

03:27AT 6:05 P.M. IS OUR SECOND

03:29PUBLIC HEARING.

03:30WE DO NOT HAVE ITEMS TO FORWARD

03:31TO COUNCIL.

03:32THANK YOU.

03:33>> THANK YOU.

03:35NEXT IS THE REPORT OF OUR

03:36BUSINESS HOUSING AND ZONING

03:38COMMITTEE.

03:38AND I'LL BE GIVINGHAT.

03:40OUR COMMITTEE WILL BE BRINGING

03:42FORWARD 12 ITEMS TO THURSDAY'S

03:44COUNCIL MEETING.

03:47ITEM 1 APPROVED SIX LIQUOR

03:50LICENSES.

03:50ITEM T APPROVES 31 LIQUOR

03:52LICENSE RENEWALS.

03:53ITEM THREE APPROVES ONE GAMBLING

03:55LICENSE.

03:55ITEM FOUR APPROVES A GIFT

03:59ACCEPTANCE FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS

03:59FOUNDATION.

04:00ITEM FIVE APPROVES A GIFT

04:01ACCEPTANCE FROM THE LINCOLN

04:02INSTITUTE OF LAND POLICY.

04:04ITEM SIX APPROVES A GIFT

04:05ACCEPTCE FROM THE ASSOCIATION

04:07FOR PUBLIC POLICY.

04:09ITEM SEVEN DISSOLVES THE

04:11MINNEAPOLIS DEVELOPMENT FINANCE

04:13COMMITTEE.

04:14ITEM EHT AUTHORIZES A CONTRACT

04:15FOR THE METRO BLUE LINE

04:16EXTENSION PROJECT.

04:18ITEM NINE RESCINDS BUSINESS

04:19LICENSE OPERATING CONDITIONS FOR

04:23DRIFTWOOD.

04:23ITEM TEN APPROVES

04:27RECOMMENDATIONS AND BUSINESS

04:28LICENSE OPERATION CONDITIONS FOR

04:31LOS ANDES LATIN BISTRO.

04:32THIS WAS ACTUALLY SENT WITHOUT

04:33RECOMMENDATION.

04:35ITEM NUMBER 11 AUTHORIZES THE

04:39APPLICATIONS FOR THE FALL 2026

04:41BROWNFIELD GRANT ROUND.

04:42AND LASTLY, ITE NUMBER 12

04:45APPROVES THE DECERTIFICATION FOR

04:47SEVERAL TIF DISTRICTS.

04:49IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS?

04:51SEEING NONE, WE WILL NEXT MOVE

04:53TO THE REPORT OF THE CLIMATE AND

04:55INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE GIVEN

04:56BYTS CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER

04:59WONSLEY.

05:03>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY

05:05THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE

05:06COMMITTEE WILL BE BRINGING2

05:07ITEMS FORWARD TO THURSDAY'S

05:09COUNCIL MEETING.

05:10THE FIRST IS A RESOLUTION

05:12ADOPTING 2027 ASSESSMENTS FOR

05:14NON-GOVERNMENTAL TAX EXEMPT

05:16PARCEL STREETLIGHT OPERATION F

05:18AND OPERATION.

05:20NUMBER TWO IS A ROLUTION

05:22ADOPTING 2027 ASSESSMENT RATES

05:25FOR NON-GOVERNMENTAL TAX EXEMPT

05:26RCELS STREET MAINTENANCE.

05:28THREE IS A RESOLUTION ADOPTING

05:322027 SERVICES AND SERVICE

05:34CHARGES FOR A SPECIAL SERVICE

05:36DISTRICT, ALSO KNOWN AS LEGACY

05:38DISTRICTS.

05:39NUMBER FOUR IS RESOLUTION

05:41CANCELING STREETLIGHT OPERATION

05:42AND STREET MAINTENANCE

05:43ASSESSMENTS AND RELATED CHARGES

05:45FOR AN INCORRECTLY CHARGED

05:47PARCEL.

05:48NUMBER FIVE IS ACCEPTING A LOW

05:51BID FOR CRUSHING RUBBLE

05:52CONCRETE.

05:53SIX IS ACCEPTING THE LOW BID FOR

05:56HILTON RAMP SANITARY PLUMBING

05:57REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

05:59SEVEN IS ACCEPTING THE SOLE BID

06:01FOR MAINTENANCE HOLE SPRAY

06:03LINING PROJECT.

06:04EIGHT IS ACCEPTING T SOLE BID

06:05FOR THE PUMP STATION FIVE, ADDED

06:08FUEL FOR GENERATORS PROJECT.

06:11NINE IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT

06:12WITH NEIGHBORHOOD RECYCLING

06:15CORPORATION FOR PROCESSING,

06:17MARKETING AND SALE OF COMMINGLED

06:19RECYCLABLE MATERIALS.

06:21TEN IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT

06:24AMENDMENT WITH ADVANCED SEWER

06:26AND WATER INC. FOR LEAD SERVICE

06:27LINE REPLACEMENTS, YEAR THREE,

06:29EVENT ONE OF TWO PROJECT.

06:3211 IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT

06:34AMENDMENT WITH THOMAS ANDONS

06:35CONSTRUCTION INC. FOR THE 26th

06:38STREET EAST AND HIAWATHA AVENUE

06:39SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

06:43AND 12 IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT

06:45AMENDMENT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY

06:45FOR WASTE DISPOSAL SERVICES.

06:47STAFF DID GIVE A PRESENTATION ON

06:48THIS MATTER THAT I ENCOURAGE

06:51COLLEAGUES TOLSO REVIEW,

06:54CONSIDERING THIS WILL HAVE

06:56LINKAGES TO WHAT WE DO WITH OUR

07:01ZERO WASTE INITIATIVES TO

07:02SUPPORT THE CLOSURE OF THE

07:04HURRICANE CENTER.

07:05SO WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR

07:08ANY QUESTIONS.

07:10>> SEEING NO DISCUSSION, WE'LL

07:12GO TO THE ENTERPRISE LABOR

07:15RELATIONS COMMITTEE, REPORT

07:16GIVEN BY ITS CHAIR, COUNCIL

07:18MEMBER PALMISANO.

07:20>> THANK YOU.

07:21THE ENTERPRISE AND LABOR

07:22RELATIONS COMMITTEE WILL BE

07:24BRINGING NINE ITEMS FORWARD FOR

07:25THURSDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING.

07:26NONE OF THEM WERE PARTICULARLY

07:28CONTROVERSIAL.

07:29ITEM ONE WAS A WINTER WORK

07:30RESERVE POOL LETTER OF AGREEMENT

07:34FOR LABOR'S LOCAL 36

07:34ITEM TWO IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT

07:36WITH KEYSTONE COMPENSATION FOR

07:39CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION

07:40CONSULTING SERVICES.

07:41ITEM THREE WAS A CONTRACT

07:43AMENDMENT WITH GOOD WORKS FOR

07:45CHANGE MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

07:47ITEM FOUR WERE CONTRACT

07:48AMENDMENTS WITH THE ALIVENESS

07:49PROJECT FOR HOUSING

07:50OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONS WITH

07:52HIV AIDS PROGRAMING.

07:54ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A CONTRACT

07:56AMENDMENT WITH CORDIA FOR STEAM

07:57SERVICE AT OUR PUBLIC SERVICE

08:00CENTER.

08:00SIX IS A CONTRACT WITH PRINCIPAL

08:02FINANCIAL SOLUTIONS FOR

08:05INVESTMENT, CUSTODY, SECURITIES

08:05LENDING AND TRUSTEE SERVICES.

08:07ITEM SEVEN IS A CONTRACT

08:09AMENDMENT FOR SUPPORT AND

08:10MAINTENANCE OF OUR WATER

08:12LABORATORY.

08:13ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A LEGAL

08:15SETTLEMENT IN THE CLAIM OF ACE

08:18NAH.

08:18AND ITEM NINE IS A CONTRACT

08:19AMENDMENT WITH LSE FOR

08:20ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING

08:21SIGN SERVICES FOR OUR

08:24MINNEAPOLIS DEMOCRACY CENTER

08:26PROJECT.

08:26COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, I THINK,

08:27HAS EVEN MORE DETAILS ON ITEM

08:29NUMBER NINE, IF THE ARE ANY

08:31QUESTIONS.

08:31>> THANK YOU.

08:32MEMBERS, IS THERE Y DISCUSSION

08:34ON THIS?

08:35SEEING NONE, WE WILL GO TO OUR

08:39LAST COMMITTEE REPORT FOR THE

08:40PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND EQUITY

08:43COMMITTEE GIVEN BY ITS CHAIR,

08:44COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ.

08:45>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

08:49THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND

08:50EQUITY COMMITTEE WILL BE

08:50BRINGING FORWARD 26 ITEMS.

08:52ITEM ONE AUTHORIZES A CONTRACT

08:56WITH CELLEBRITE USA CORPORATION

08:57FOR MOBILE DEVICE FORENSIC

08:59SOFTWARE SERVICES.

08:59THIS W SENT FORWARD WITHOUT

09:02RECOMMENDATION.

09:02ITEMS TWO THROUGH TEN AUTHORIZES

09:06MASTER CONTRACTS FOR THE HEALTH

09:08DEPARTMENT.

09:09ITEM 11 AUTHORIZES A CONTRACT

09:12AMENDMENT WITH NORTH STAR

09:13SUSTAINABILITY TO SUPPORT

09:14IMPLEMENTATION OF FOOD FORWARD.

09:16ITEM 12 AUTHORIZES A MEMANDUM

09:19OF UNDERSTANDING WITH

09:19NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTH SOURCE,

09:21CENTRAL CLINIC, NEIGHBORHOOD

09:22HEALTH SOURCE FREMONT CLINIC,

09:24FAIRVIEW RECOVERYLINIC, AND

09:26REDWOOD CLINIC, TO EXPAND ACCESS

09:29TO LONG-ACTING INJECTABLE FOR

09:30PEOPLE WITH OPIOID USE DISORDER.

09:34ITEM 13 ACCEPTS THE 2025 URBAN

09:37AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE GRANT

09:39FOR PURCHASING MERIDIAN VEHICLE

09:41INTRUSION MITIGATION BAICADES,

09:42AND AUTHORIZES A CONTRACT FOR

09:43THE GRANTS.

09:48ITEM 14 ACCEPTS REDISTRIBUTION

09:51FUNDING FR THE MINNESOTA BOARD

09:51OF FIREFIGHTER TRAINING AND

09:54EDUCATION FOR BOOT TRAININGS AND

09:57APPROVES APPROPRIATION OF THE

09:58FUNDS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

10:00ITEM 15 ACCEPTS THE STAFFING FOR

10:00ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY

10:02RESPONSE GRANT FOR FIREFIGHTER

10:04POSITIONS, THE SAFER GRANT.

10:06ITEM 16 AND 17 ACCEPTS GRANTS

10:08FOR STAFF CONFERENCE ATTENDANCE.

10:11ITEM 18 APPROVES THE DISPOSITION

10:12OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MOUNTED

10:13PATROL SURPLUS PROPERTY BY

10:16DONATION TO THE MOUNTED POLICE

10:19FOUNDATION.

10:20ITEM 18 DIRECTS THE LEGISLATIVE

10:20DEPARTMENT TO UNDERTAKE RESEARCH

10:22AND ANALYSIS ON AUTOMOTIVE

10:23BUSINESS REGULATION AND

10:25ENFORCEMENT.

10:27ITEM 20 APPROVES THE 20262029PHE

10:30COMMITTEE WORK PLAN.

10:33ITEM 21 REQUESTS THE CITY DIT

10:34COMMITTEE TO REQUEST A CITY

10:35AUDITOR TO UNDERTAKE AN

10:37INDEPENDENT AFTER ACTION REVIEW

10:38OF THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO

10:40DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RELATED CALLS

10:41FOR SERVICEY MARIAH SAMUELS,

10:43AS WELL AS THE CITY'S

10:44INVESTIGATION INTO HER DTH.

10:47ITEM 22 DENIES A CONTRACT WITH

10:48COMMUNITY BRIDGES INC FOR MOBILE

10:49CRISIS RESPONSE SERVICES.

10:53ITEM 23 APPROVES A LEGISLATIVE

10:54DIRECTIVE RELATETO THE

10:55UNRESOLVED MANAGEMENT CORRECTIVE

10:56ACTION PLANS POLICE OFF DUTY

10:58WORK AUDIT.

11:03ITEM 24 APPROVES THE LEGISLATIVE

11:04DIRECTIVE RELATED TO THE

11:05UNRESOLVED MANAGEMENT CORRECTIVE

11:06ACTION PLANS MINNEAPOLIS POLICE

11:07DEPARTNT FLEET MANAGEMENT

11:11AUDIT.

11:11ITEM 25 REQUESTS... THE CITY

11:12AUDIT COMMITTEE REQUEST THE CITY

11:14AUDITOR TO CONDUCT AN

11:14INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF THE POLICE

11:16DEPARTMENTVERTIME MANAGEMENT

11:16CONTROLS AND USE.

11:19AND ITEM 26 ACCEPTS A DONATION

11:22FOR THE HEALTH STAFF TO ATTEND N

11:26BIRTH WORKERS.

11:26I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS,

11:28AND WE'LL REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT

11:29TODAY'S VOTES ARE COMMITTEE

11:32REPORTS.

11:33WE DON'T VOTE ON ITEMS.

11:36>> YEAH, THANK YOU, COCIL

11:38MEMBER CHAVEZ.

11:38THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR STANDING

11:40COMMITTEE REPORTS.

11:41I WILL RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE

11:42BEEN JOINED BY VICE PRESIDENT

11:44OSMAN.

11:45FIRST, WE WILL START WITH OUR

11:46ONE RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM.

11:48THIS IS A PRESENTATION FROM LRO

11:51REGARDING THE CITY OF

11:53MINNEAPOLIS BUSINESS REGULATORY

11:55ENVIRONMENT AND ITS POLICIES AND

11:57PRACTICES.

11:57I'LL INVITE ASHLEY FM LRO TO

11:59GIVE THIS PRESENTATION.

12:01WELCOME.

12:08>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR

12:11CHOWDHURY, VICE CHAIR CHUTAI,

12:12AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

12:13MY NAME IS ASHLEY ZOOK WITH

12:16LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH AND

12:17OVERSIGHT AND I'M HERE TODAY TO

12:18PRESENT ON BUSINESS REGULATORY

12:19ENVIRONMENT.

12:21THE STAFF DIRECTION REQUESTED A

12:23LANDSCAPE ANALYSIS OF MUNICIPAL

12:25EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THE

12:26REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT FOR

12:29BUSINESSES, AND BASED ON THIS,

12:30HIGHLIGHT POTENTIAL TRENDS,

12:32COMMON PRACTICES OR INNOVATIVE

12:34PROGRAMS FOR POTENTIAL

12:35CONSIDERATION BY CITY COUNCIL.

12:37IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THESE

12:40REQUESTS, LRO STAFF INTERVIEWED

12:40A VARIETY OF CITOFFICIALS FROM

12:42MUNICIPALITIES WITH RECENT OR

12:44ONGOING LICENSING AND PERMITTING

12:47REFORMS, AS WELL AS THOSE

12:48OFFERING ASSISTAE TO NAVIGATE

12:51THEIR REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT.

12:52TO PROVIDE LOCAL CONTEXT, STAFF

12:54ALSO CONDUED INTERVIEWS WITH

12:57REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE

12:58MINNEAPOLIS DOWNTOWN COUNCIL,

12:59MEET MINNEAPOLIS, MINNEAPOLIS

13:01REGIONAL CHAMBER, ELEVATE

13:03HENNEPIN, AND THE MINNESOTA

13:03DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT AND

13:04ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

13:07LRO STAFF WOULD ALSO LIKE TO

13:08ACKNOWLEDGE INTERVIEW

13:10CONTRIBUTIONS FROM 11 DIFFERENT

13:11CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS DEPARTMENTS

13:15AND DIVISIONS.

13:15A LITTLE BACKGROUND...

13:16REGULATORY BURDENS TEND TO

13:18ESPECIALLY HURT NEW AND SMALL

13:21BUSINESSES.

13:21IMPROVING THE REGULATORY

13:22ENVIRONMENT FOR BUSINESSES IS A

13:24OAD AND COMPLEX ENDEAVOR GIVEN

13:27THE INTERCONNECTED SYSTEMS AND

13:28PROCESSES IN PLACE.

13:30URBAN INSTITUTE RESEARCH SHOWS

13:31THAT EFFORTS TO MAKE PERMITTING

13:32AND LICENSING PROCESSES EASIER,

13:34EITHER BY INCREASING TECHNICAL

13:36SUPPORT OR STREAMLINING

13:38PROCESSES ARE FREQUENTLY

13:42UTILIZED ACTIONS TO SUPPORT

13:43SMALL BUSINESSES.

13:45EFFORTS INTENDED TO MAKE

13:45PROCEDURALND ADMINISTRATIVE

13:46REQUIREMENTS EASIER TO NAVIGATE,

13:48LESS FREQUENT, LESS INTENSIVE,

13:50LESS EXPENSIVE.

13:52DESPITE BEING A COMMON TOOL,

13:54URBAN INSTITUTE COULD NOT FIND

13:55STATISTICALLY VALID EVIDENCE OF

13:58IMPACT PROVING THE POLICIES

14:00WORK.

14:00CITIES INTERVIEWED FOR THIS

14:01REPORT STATED THAT WHILE SOME

14:03METRICS FOR MEASURING THE

14:05GENERAL BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT

14:06INCLUDED NEW LICENSES, SALES TAX

14:08AND HOSPITALITY VACANCY RATES,

14:10METRICS TO MEASURE THE IMPACT OF

14:12SPECIFIC REGULATORY CHANGES ARE

14:15MORE COMPLEX.

14:15CITIES GERALLY STATED THAT

14:16THEY WERE EITHER JUST STARTING

14:18TO GATHER METRICS OR THEY WERE

14:20RELYING MOSTLY ON ANECDOTAL

14:22FEEDBACK TO MEASURE IMPACT.

14:23THE URBAN INSTITUTE FURTHER

14:25EXPLAINED, HOWEVER, THAT IF

14:28EFFECTIVE, STREAMLININ

14:28PERMITTING AND LICENSING

14:29PROCESSES IS A RELATIVELY LOW

14:30COST WAY OF MAKING IT EASIER TO

14:34START OR GROW A BUSINESS IN A

14:35COMMUNITY.

14:39SO MINNEAPOLIS BACKGROUND.

14:40BUSINESSES INTERACT WITH MANY

14:41DIFFERENT MINNEAPOLIS CITY

14:42DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS WHEN

14:44APPLYING FOR BUSINESS LICENSES

14:45AND PERMITS.

14:46EACH BUSINESS IS UNIQUE AND THE

14:48REQUIREMENTS VARY DEPENDING ON

14:49THE BUNESS TYPE, LOCATION,

14:51NECESSARY BUILDING CHANGES, AND

14:53SEVERAL OTHER VARIABLES.

14:55THE MAIN WAYS THAT BUSINESSES

14:56INTERACT WITH THE CITY OF

14:59MINNEAPOLIS INCLUDE FIRST

15:00BUSINESS LICENSES FOR BUSINESSES

15:02THAT NEED A LICENSE.

15:03THERE IS NO GENERAL BUSINESS

15:04LICENSE IN MINNEAPOLIS.

15:06MANY BUSINESSES FALL INTO THE

15:08NON-LICENSED CATEGORY, MEANING

15:09THEY DO NOT NEED A LICENSE TO

15:11OPERATE.

15:12OTHER BUSINESSES REQUIRE EITHER

15:13A CITY OR STATE BUSINESS LIC

15:17LICENSE.

15:17SECOND, BUILDING CODES FOR

15:18BUSINESSES WITH A PHYSICAL

15:20PRESENCE.

15:21ANY PHYSICAL BUSINESS HAS THE

15:22POTENTIAL TO INTERACT WITH THE

15:22CITY IF THEY COMPLETE ANY

15:26RENOVATIONS OR CONSTRUCTION IN

15:26THEIR COMMERCIAL SPACE.

15:29THIRD, LABOR STANDARDS FOR

15:30BUSINESSES WITH EMPLOYEES.

15:31BUSINESSES WITH EMPLOYEES MAY

15:33INTERACT WITH THE CIVIL RIGHTS

15:35DEPARTMENT THROUGH LABOR

15:36STANDARD LAW IF A COMPLAINT IS

15:39FILED.

15:39AND FOURTH, ELECTIVE BUSINESS

15:42ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT SERVICES.

15:43BUSINESSES CAN ELECT TO ILIZE

15:46A VARIETY OF CITY-PROVIDED

15:47BUSINESS ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT

15:49SERVIC, BUT ARE NOT REQUIRED

15:50TO DO SO.

15:51BECAUSE MANY BUSINESSES ARE NOT

15:53REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A SINESS

15:54LICENSE, SOME BUSINESSES IN

15:56MINNEAPOLIS MAY NEVER INTERACT

15:57WITH THE CITY.

15:59DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS

16:00INVOLVED IN THESE INTERACTIONS

16:01INCLUDE THOSE LISTED ON THE

16:03SLIDE.

16:06THE MINNEAPOLIS BUSINESS

16:06REGUTORY ENVIRONMENT WAS

16:08CONSISTENTLY DESCRIBED AS

16:10COMPLEX, HARD TO NAVIGATE, AND

16:12ADMINISTRATIVELY BURDENSOME FOR

16:13THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY BY STAFF

16:15FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS DOWNTOWN

16:17COUNCIL, MINNEAPOLIS REGIONAL

16:19CHAMBER, MEET MINNEAPOLIS, AND

16:21ELEVATE HENNEPIN.

16:22WHETHER ACCURATE OR NOT, THERE

16:23IS A PERCEPTION THAT MINNEAPOLIS

16:26IS HARD TO DO BUSINESS IN.

16:28MINNEAPOLIS IS NOT ALONE,

16:30HOWEVER, WITH MANY CITIES

16:31RECENTLY LAUNCHING INITIATIVES

16:31TO REDUCEEGULATORY BURDEN AND

16:34STREAMLINE LICENSING, PERMITTING

16:35AND OTHER BUSINESS PROCESSES IN

16:37ORDER TO SUPPORT BUSINESS GROWTH

16:38AND DEVELOPMENT.

16:40CITIES ARE ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE

16:42IN MANY WAYS, BUT MOST FALL

16:44UNDER THREE OVERARCHING TRENDS

16:45OR ACTION AREAS.

16:46THESE THREE AREAS WERE

16:48IDENTIFIED BASED ON TNDS

16:50OBSERVED IN THE EXAMPLE CITIES

16:51THROUGHOUT THE REPORT, AS WELL

16:52AS ADDITIONALITIES REVIEWED

16:54FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSIONS.

16:55THE FIRST IS REVIEWING AND

16:57REDUCING REGULATIONS.

16:58THE SECOND IS A BUSINESS

17:01CONCIERGE OR ONE-STOP SHOP.

17:02THE THIRD IS ONLINE PORTALS AND

17:05ADDITIONAL TECHNOLOGY

17:05MODERNIZATION.

17:07AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO

17:08ACKNOWLEDGE FIRST THAT

17:10MINNEAPOLIS STAFF ARE ALREADY

17:11ADDRESSING ALL THREE OF THESE

17:12AREAS THROUGH ONGOING AND/OR

17:14PLANNED WORK.

17:15THE CURRENT STATUS FOR EACH IN

17:18MINNEAPOLIS IS EXPLORED IN

17:19DETAIL IN THE REPORT.

17:22OKAY, THE FIRST ACTION AREA, AS

17:25I SAID, IS REVIEWING AND

17:26REDUCING REGULATIONS.

17:31WHILE STRELINING REGULATIONS

17:32MAY SEEM LIKE A STRAIGHTFORWARD

17:33ACTION, DETERMINING THE CORRECT

17:34BALANCE BETWEEN RISK AND

17:36RELATION IS COMPLEX.

17:38IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER EACH

17:39REGULATIONSURPOSE, EFFICACY

17:41AND THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES

17:42OF ANY CHANGES TO THE PUBLIC

17:44GOOD, AS WELL ASHE BUSINESS

17:46COMMUNITY.

17:46THE GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO

17:48ENSURE REGULATIONS CREATE SAFETY

17:49FOR WORKERS,ONSUMERS,

17:52COMMUNITIES AND THE ENVIRONMENT,

17:54WHILE ALSO TRYING TO REDUCE

17:55ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN ON

17:56BUSINESSES.

17:58MANY EXAMPLE CITIES IN THE

18:00REPORT WERE TASKED BY THE

18:00RESPECTIVE MAYORS TO COMPLETE A

18:03COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF BUSINESS

18:04REGULATIONS WITH THE PURPOSE OF

18:06REDUCING THE PROCESSES.

18:08GIVEN THE DETAILED REVIEW

18:10REQUIRED, THISFTEN IS A

18:11LENGTHY PROCESS TAKING UP TO A

18:13YEAR IN MANY CASES.

18:15IT IS ALSO OFTEN INCLUDES FOCUS

18:17GROUPS OR OTHER BUSINESS

18:18COMMUNITY FEEDBACK MECHANISM.

18:20MINNEAPOLIS HAS ALREADY STARTED

18:21WORK IN THIS AREA THROUGH THE

18:23ENTERPRISE-WIDE LICENSING G AND

18:25PERMITTING REFORM INITIATIVE LED

18:26BY THE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT

18:28AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT.

18:30THEIR PROJECT TIMELINE ALLOWS

18:31FOR THE CONSIDERATION AND

18:32POSSIBLE INCORPORATION OF

18:34OPTIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT

18:36AS THE PROJECT MOVES INTO ITS

18:38IMPLEMENTATION PLANNING PHASE

18:39DURING QUARTER FOUR.

18:41THE REPORT ALSO INCLUDES

18:42RELEVANT ADDITIONAL ONGOING AND

18:44PLANNED RELATORY REFORMS IN

18:46MINNEAPOLIS, AS WELL AS CURRENT

18:47PAIN POINTS, COMMON COMPLAINTS,

18:50AND OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPLORE

18:51PROVIDED BY CITY STAFF, AS WELL

18:54AS THE MINNEAPOLIS BUSINESS

18:55COMMUNITY.

18:56CURRENT PAIN POINTS SHARED BY

18:57THE SINESS COMMUNITY GENERALLY

18:59RELATED TO DIFFICULTY NAVIGATING

19:02REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS,

19:03COMMUNICATION ISSUES, AND TIMELY

19:06RESPONSES.

19:07THERE ARE ALSO MANY BIG-PICTURE

19:09AND DAILED EXAMPLES OF

19:11REGULATORY REFORM FROM THE MANY

19:13CITIES INCLUDED IN THE REPORT.

19:14SOME HIGHLIGHTS THAT MAY BE

19:16RELEVANT FOR MINNEAPOLIS INCLUDE

19:18TROIT'S TWO-YEAR LICENSE

19:19RENEWAL CHANGE.

19:21THEY MOVED MANY BUSINESS LICENSE

19:23RENEWALS FROM A ONE-YEAR CYCLE

19:25TO A TWO-YEAR CYCLE.

19:28BOSTON'S INCREASING INTERNAL

19:30COLLABORATION.

19:30CITY STAFF SAID THEY'RE WORKI

19:31ON HAVING A SINGLE ENTRY POINT

19:33FOR CONSTITUENTS, WHERE CITY

19:35AGENCIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR

19:36WORKING OUT ANY CONFLICT AMONG

19:39THEMSELVES, AND THEN GETTING

19:39BACKO THE CONSTITUENT WITH A

19:41COLLECTIVE RESPONSE.

19:44AND MIAMS ANNUAL FACILITIES

19:45PERMIT IS A NEW OPTION FOR

19:47COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND

19:49CONTRACTORS THAT ALLOWS ROUTINE

19:52REPAIRS, REPLACEMENTS AND SMALL

19:53SCALE RENOVATIONS TO BE

19:55COMPLETED UNDER A SINGLE

19:58YEAR-LONG PERMIT.

19:58A FEW MORE EXAMPLE CITIES.

20:00SAN FRANCISCO ELIMINATION OF

20:02SIDEWALK TABLES AND CHAIRS

20:03PERMIT.

20:04THE NEED FOR A PERMIWAS

20:05REPLACED WITH AN ONLINE

20:08REGISTRATION WITH MORE

20:08SUBSTANTIAL PENALTIES IF

20:10BUSINESSES ARE OUT OF REGULATORY

20:13COMPLIANCE.

20:13SAN FRANCISCO ALSO HAD TAX AND

20:16FEE REFORMS.

20:17THE FIRST YEAR FREE PROGRAM

20:19WAIVED THE COST OF INITIAL

20:20REGISTRATION FEES, INITIAL

20:23LICENSE FEES, FIRST-YEAR PERMIT

20:24FEES, AND OTHER APPLICABLE FEES

20:27FOR QUALIFYING BUSINESSES IN

20:28THEIR PROPOSITION M,

20:32INDEFINITELY ELIMINATED 49

20:33ANNUAL LICENSE FEES.

20:33AND FINALLY, NEW YORK CITY'S

20:35PA LESSONS LEARNED.

20:36NEW YORK HAS HAD MULTIPLE

20:38ITERATIONS OF STREAMLINING AND

20:40REDUCING REGULATIONS OVER THE

20:42YEARS.

20:42A REVIEW FOUND A RECENT PAST

20:45PROGRAM FAILED TO ACHIEVE

20:46MEANINGFUL CHANGE FOR SMALL

20:48BUSINESSES.

20:48VAGUE DEFINITIONS, A LACK OF

20:52INTER-AGENCY ENGAGEMENT, ANDINAG

20:54CONTRIBUTED TO THE POOR

20:55PERFORMANCE OF AN OTHERWISE

20:58WELL-NTI-INTENTIONED INITIATIVE.

21:02THE SECOND ACTION AREA IS

21:02INCREASING ONE ON ONE ASSISTANCE

21:03FOR BUSINESS OWNERS WHILE THEY

21:04NAVIGATE REGULATORY

21:06REQUIREMENTS.

21:07THIS WAS OFTEN ACHIEVED THROUGH

21:08THE CREATION OF A DEDICATED

21:10BUSINESS CONCIERGE OR OTHER

21:12ONE-STOP SHOP TYPE ASSISTANCE,

21:14PROVIDING A SOLE POINT OF

21:15CONTACT FOR BUSINESS OWNERS

21:17THROUGH THE ENTIRE REGULORY

21:18PROCESS FROM START TO FINISH.

21:24MOST CITIES INTERVIEWED FOR THIS

21:25REPORT PAIRED REDUCING

21:25REGULATIONS WITH INCREASING

21:27ASSISTANCE FOR NAVIGATING THE

21:28ENVIRONMENT IN SOME CAPACITY.

21:30SEVERAL MINNEAPOS STAFF TEAMS

21:31ALREADY ASSIST CUSTOMERS THROUGH

21:33PART OF IF NOT THE ENTI

21:36PROCESS OF PERMITTING AND

21:38LICENSING.

21:38BUSINESS LICENSING STA HELPED

21:40WALK PEOPLE THROUGH THE BUSINESS

21:41LICENSING PROCESS, DEVELOPMENT

21:42REVIEW STAFF ARE THE MAIN POINT

21:44OF CONTACT FOR THE ENTIRE

21:46BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS,

21:47AND IN ADDITION TO THOSE MORE

21:51SPECIFIC ASSISTANCE ROLES, THE

21:51SMALL BUSINESS TEAM ACTS AS A

21:54BUSINESS CONCIERGE THAT CAN WALK

21:55PEOPLE THROUGH THE ENTIRE

21:56REGULATORY PROCESS.

21:58THOUGH THIS TEAM CAN AND DOES

22:01ACT AS A BUSINESS CONCIERGE,

22:03THAT ASSISTANCE MAY NOT BE WELL

22:05KNOWN.

22:06CPED STAFF SAID THEY CAN AND

22:07SHOULD CONSIDER WAYS TO

22:09ENCOURE BUSINESSES TO LOOP THE

22:09CITY IN EARLIER IN THE

22:11REGULATORY PROCESS, AND BETTER

22:14PROMOTE THE WAYS THE SMALL

22:15BUSINESS TEAM CAN PROVIDE

22:17ASSISTANCE FROM THE VERY

22:19BEGINNING.

22:19STAFF FROM LOCAL BUSINESS

22:20ORGANIZATIONS AGREED THAT HAVING

22:22A MO COMPLETE BUSINESS

22:24CONCIERGE WITH THE ABILITY TO

22:27OFFER BUSINESS OWNERS A SINGULAR

22:27POINT PERSON IS A GOOD IDEA.

22:30THE REPORT COVERS ADDITIONAL

22:33CURRENT PAIN POINTS, COMMON

22:34COMPLAINTS AND OPPORTUNITI TO

22:36EXPLORE, PROVIDED BY CITY STAFF

22:37AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

22:45TWO CITY EXAMPLES I WANT TO

22:46HIGHLIGHT ARE NEW YORK AND

22:47SEATTLE.

22:48THOUGH, AGAIN, THERE ARE FURTHER

22:49EXAMPLES IN THE REPORT.

22:50ALONGSIDE A JULY REFORM PACKAGE,

22:52A NEW EXECUTIVE ORDER IN NEW

22:55YORK INCLUDED THE EXPANSION OF

22:55THE MISSION OF THE NYC BUSINESS

22:59EXPRESS SERVICE TEAM, OR NYC

23:01BEST.

23:02IT CREATES A DEDICATED ONE-STOP

23:04CONCIERGE SERVICE FOR NEW

23:05BUSINESSES, WHERE THEY ARE

23:06ASSIGNED A SINGLE CLIENT

23:08MANAGER, WHO STAYS WH THEM

23:10FROM START TO FINISH,

23:15FACILITATING PERMITTING,

23:15LICENSING INSPECTIONS, AND

23:16COMPLIANCE ACROSS ALL AGENCIES.

23:18THE EXPANSION OF NYC BEST WILL

23:20ENSURE MORE BUSINESSES BENEFIT

23:22FROM ONE-ON-ONE COMPLIANCE

23:25EDUCATION, SAVING THEM TIM AND

23:27MONEY.

23:27CITY STAFF WILL ALSO PROACTIVELY

23:29REACH OUT TO COMPANIES..OR

23:30REACH OUT TO BUSINESSES AHEAD OF

23:33QUALIFYING INSPECTIONS INSTEAD

23:34OF WAITING ON THEM TO REQUEST

23:37ASSISTANCE.

23:38IN JUNE OF 2025, AN EXECUTIVE

23:39ORDER IN SEATTLE INCLUDED THE

23:40NEW PERMIT COACHING AND

23:42EXPEDITED SERVICES WHERE

23:44ELIGIBLE SMALL BUSINESSES

23:45RECEIVE COACHING, RESEARCH

23:46SUPPORT AND DEVELOPMENT OF A

23:49PERMIT STRATEGY AS THEY PREPARE

23:51TO SUBT PERMITS.

23:53AT SUBMITTAL, THEY ARE ASSIGNED

23:54A SINGLE POINT OF CTACT, AS

23:56WELL AS A PRIORITIZED

23:58APPOINTMENT, AND A REDUCED

24:00TIMENE FOR COMPLETING A PLAN

24:01REVIEW OF THEIR APPLICATION.

24:04PROJECTS RECEIVING ASSISTANCE

24:06HAD PERMITS REVIEWED AND ISSUED

24:0757% FASTER HELPING BUSINESSES

24:09OPEN THEIR DOORS SOONER.

24:11THE THIRD ACTION AREA IS THE

24:13INCREASING USE OF ONLINE

24:14LICENSING AND PERMITTING PORTALS

24:16AND OTHER TECHNOLOGY

24:18MODERNIZATION TO HELP STREAMLINE

24:19REGULATORY PROCESSES AND

24:22INCREASE ASSISTANCE THROUGH AN

24:23EASY USER EXPERIENCE.ONLINE LICG

24:28PORTALS ARE ONLINE PLATFORMS

24:30US FOR PERMIT APPLICATIONS

24:30LICENSE APPLICATIONS, REQUIRE

24:31PLAN SUBMISSIONS, SCHEDULING

24:34INSPECTIONS, ANDEVIEWING

24:35RESULTS, AND MUCH MORE.

24:38APPLICANTS AND ALL RELEVANT CITY

24:39DEPARTMENTS CAN ACCESS THE

24:41SYSTEM, AND CITY STAFF CAN

24:42COMPLETE THE WORK KE

24:44INSPECTIONS IN REAL TIME WITHIN

24:46THE SYSTEM.

24:46APPLICANTS CAN TCK WHERE THEIR

24:47PROJECT IS AT IN THE PROCESS,

24:50RECEIVE AUTOMATIC NOTICATIONS

24:51IF AN INSPECTION FAILS OR

24:52ANOTHER ISSUE IS IDENTIFIED, AND

24:54BETTER UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS,

24:56ESPECIALLY WHEN THIRD PARTIES

24:59ARE INVOLVED, SUCH AS

24:59CONTRACTOROR LAWYERS.

25:02ONLINE PORTALS CAN INCREASE

25:03COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY,

25:05BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY.

25:07THEY CAN REDUCE TIME DELAYS FOR

25:10SUBMITTALS, CREATE PROCESS

25:11CONSISTENCY AND EQUITY, AND

25:12REDUCE STAFF WORKLOAD BY

25:14REMOVING MANUAL PAPERWORK ENTRY.

25:17CURRENTLY, THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY

25:18DEPARTMENTS INTERVIEWED FOR THE

25:19REPORT, USED THE ENTERPRISE LAND

25:20MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, OR ELMS, T

25:27PROCESS REVIEWS AND INSPECTIONS

25:28AS PART OF THE LICENSING AND

25:28PERMITTING PROCESS THERE IS NO

25:29INTERFACE FOR APPLICATION

25:30APPLICATION INTO ELMS, AND

25:32APPLICANTS CANNOT SEE WHERE THE

25:33APPLICATION IS IN THE PROCESS.

25:34CITY STAFF SAID THE BIGGEST

25:36ISSUE THAT CAUSES LICENSING

25:37DELAYS IS RECEING NECESSARY

25:38DOCUMENTS AND INFORMATION ON A

25:40TIMELY BASIS.

25:42APPLICANTS OFTEN STRUGGLE TO

25:43QUICKLY SUBMIT THE NECESSARY

25:46ITEMS AND DO NOT ALWAYS KNOW

25:47WHERE TO SUBMIT WHEN THEY'RE

25:50MISSING ITEMS.

25:50THE INFORMATIOTECHNOLOGY

25:52DEPARTMENT IS IN THE PROCESS OF

25:54ROLLING OUT AN ENTERPRISE

25:54PAYMENT PLAORM, WHICH WILL

25:55EVENTUALLY ALLOW ALL DEPARTMENTS

25:57ACROSS THE CITY TO ACCEPT ONLINE

26:00PAYMENTS, INCLUDING FOR ALL

26:00LICENSES AND PERMITS.

26:02IN ADDITION TO THE PAYMENT

26:04SYSTEM, IT STAFF SAID THEY ARE

26:07PLANNING ON REPLACING ELMS WITH

26:08A LICENSING ONLINE OPERATION AND

26:10PERMITTING SYSTEM OR LOOP.

26:12THIS WILL BE A NEW ONLINE

26:14LICENSE AND PERMIT PORTAL, WHICH

26:16WILL INCREASE TRANSPARENCY,

26:17ALLOWING APPLICANTS TO APPLY,

26:20PAY, LOG IN AND SEE WHERE THEIR

26:23APPLICATION IS IN THE PROCESS.

26:24IT WILL ALSO INCREASE MOBILE

26:25CAPABILITIES FOR INSPECTORS,

26:26ALLOWING THEM TO ACCESS THE

26:28SYSTEM IN THE FIELD.

26:30THE LOOP PILOT WILL START THIS

26:32MONTH WITH SIX HEALTH PERMITS.

26:34STAFF ACROSS DEPARTMENTS AGREED

26:36THAT AN ONLINE SYSTEM COULD BE

26:37INCREDIBLY IMPACTFUL, REDUCING

26:39WORKLOAD FOR STAFF AND TIME

26:40BETWEEN SUBMITTALS.

26:42AND STAFF FROM LOCAL BUSINESS

26:44ORGANIZATIONS HAD VERY POSITIVE

26:45REACTIONS TO BOTH CONCEPTS OF

26:48THE ENTERPRISE PAYMENT PLATFORM,

26:49AS WELL AS THE ONLINE LICENSING

26:52AND PERMITTING PORTAL.

26:54I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ST. PAUL'S

26:58NEW ONLINE SYSTEM LAUHED IN

26:59SEPTEMBER OF 2025.

27:03POLY PROVIDES ONE ONLINE AND

27:03CESSIBLE PLATFORM FOR MANY

27:05SERVICES.

27:06RESIDENTS CAN APPLY FOR PERMITS

27:07AND LICENSES, TRK INSPECTIONS,

27:10AND UPLOAD DOCUMENTS, SUBMIT AND

27:11FOLLOW UP ON NEIGHBORHOOD

27:13COMPLAINTS, MAKE SECURE ONLINE

27:15PAYMENTS, AND RECEIVE TIMELY

27:17UPDATES AND MESSAGES REGARDING

27:17THEIR ACCOUNT.

27:20SAINT PAUL SELECTED TYLER

27:22TECHNOLOGIES ENTERPRISE

27:22PERMITTING AND LICENSING

27:24PLATFORM THROUGH AN RFP PROCESS.

27:25IT HAS ROBUST SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS

27:27THAT ARE VERY CUSTOMIZABLE.

27:29STAFF NOTED THAT SEVERAL METRO

27:30AREA CITIES AND GOVERNMENTAGENC,

27:35WHICH HAS CREATED A KIND OF LIKE

27:37METRO AREA USER GROUP, WHERE

27:39THEY CAN DISCUSS ISSUES AND FIND

27:41WAYS TO SIMPLIFY THE USER

27:44EXPERIENCE.

27:45THE MORE PLACES THAT USE THE

27:45SAME SYSTEM IN THE SAME WAY, THE

27:47EASIER IT IS FOR USERS

27:48THROUGHOUT THE METRO AREA.

27:50THE PLATFORM ALSO HAS GOOD IN

27:53THE FIELD APP FOR INSPECTORS,

27:58AND THEY'RE ARTING TO DEPLOY

27:59IPADS IN THE FIELD TO UTILIZE

28:00THOSE OPTIONS.

28:01AND STAFF SAID THAT THE PLATFORM

28:02HAS GREATLY REDUCED PAPERWORK

28:02AND IMPVED COLLABORATION AS

28:04DEPARTMENTS CAN NOW EASILY TRACK

28:05AND REVIEW COMPLEX APPLICATIONS.

28:09PROCESS AND SYSTEM TRANSPARENCY

28:11HAS GREATLY INCREASED NOTNLY

28:12FOR APPLICANTS BUT FOR THE CITY

28:14STAFF AS WELL.

28:15IT ALLOWS THEM TO SEE EVYONE

28:17WHO INTERACTS WITH THE SYSTEM

28:20AND INCREASES THE CONSISTENCY

28:20AND EQUITABILITY IN THE CHOICES

28:22STAFF MAKE WHEN PROCESSING

28:23APPLICATIONS.

28:29IN ADDITION TO ONLINE PORTALS,

28:31ADDITIONAL TECHNOLOGY

28:32MODERNIZATION HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE

28:34DETROIT'S UTILIZATION OF

28:34TECHNOLOGY TO ALLOW FOR BETTER

28:36FEEDBACK.

28:37ALL INSPECTORS HAVE A QR CODE ON

28:38THE BACK OF THEIR BADGE, WHICH

28:40BUSINESS OWNERS CAN SCAN TO

28:41PROVIDE FEEDBACK.

28:44ADDITIONALLY, AFTER A BUSINESS

28:45LICENSE IS APPROVED, THE ONLINE

28:48SYSTEM OFFERS A SURVEY TO

28:49CAPTURE FEEDBACK AUTOMATICALLY.

28:53IN DENVER, TO HELP RESTAURANT

28:54OWNERS GET STARTED ON THEIR

28:57JOURNEY, THEY CREATED AN ONLINE

28:58INTERACTIVSTART SMART GUIDE

29:00FOR RESTAURANTS.

29:02THE ONLINE FORM ASKED QSTIONS

29:03ABOUT THE PROJECT TO HELP OWNERS

29:05IDENTIFY THE REQUIREMENTS THAT

29:06APPLY IN STEPS THA MAY NEED

29:09TO... THEY MAY NEED TO TAKE TO

29:10START THE PERMITTING AND

29:11LICENSING PROCESS.

29:12THEY ANTICIPATE CREATING MORE OF

29:13THESE ONLINE INTERACTIVE GUIDES

29:14FOR ADDITIONAL TYPES OF

29:15BUSINESS.

29:17DENVER IS ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF

29:19DEVELOPING AN AI-GUIDED INTAKE

29:22TOOL TO PERFORM A COMPLETENESS

29:24CHECK FOPERMIT APPLICATIONS.

29:26THE TOOL WILL SCREEN ALL

29:28DOMENTS AND APPLICATION

29:30MATERIALS BEFORE APPLICANTS

29:30SUBMIT THE PAPERWORK TO THE

29:33TY, LOOKING FOR ANY GAPS AND

29:34REVIEWING PLANS TO ENSURE THEY

29:36ARE AS COMPLETE AS POSSIBLE.

29:39SIMILARLY, SEATTLE IS DEVELOPING

29:40AN AI-POWERED PILOT TOOL TO HELP

29:42APPLICANTS CATCH AND CORRECT

29:43COMMON ERRORS BEFORE SUBMITTING

29:44THEIR PAPERWORK.

29:47AND TO HELP STAFF APPLY

29:51CONSISTENT, OBJECTIVE STANDARDS

29:52WHEN REVIEWING APPLICATIONS.

29:52THE TOOL WOULD ALSO ALERT STAFF

29:54TO UNCLEAR OR OVERLY COMPLEX

29:56REGULATIONS TO HELP THE CITY

29:57IMPROVE.

29:59IN ADDITION TO THE THREE ACTION

30:01AREAS ALREADY DISCUSSED, STAFF

30:02INTERVIEWED FOR THI REPORT

30:04OFFERED SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS TO

30:06EXPLORE FOR IMPROVING THE

30:07REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT FOR

30:07BUSINESSES.

30:09THE FIRST IS TO INCREASE

30:11COLLABORATION ACROSS

30:12GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES,

30:13NONPROFITS AND OTHER

30:15ORGANIZATIONS, SO THAT ERYONE

30:16IS AWARE OF EXISTING REGULATORY

30:19ASSISTANCE.

30:20SEVERAL INTERVIEWEES SAID THERE

30:21COULD BE MORE EFFORTS TO PULL

30:22STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER TO FIGURE

30:23OUT WHATUPPORT IS ALREADY

30:25AVAILABLE AND WHAT GAPS EXIST.

30:28CONDLY, THE MINNESOTA

30:29DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT AND

30:30ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WILL BE

30:31COMPLETING A PILOT PROGRAM IN

30:33SAINT CLOUD, WHERE ANY BUSINESS

30:35CAN DROP IN THAT WANTS TO

30:36REGISTER WITH THE STATE.

30:37THEY WILL ALSO BE PROVIDING

30:39GUIDANCE AND TECHNICAL

30:42ASSISTANCE ONSITE.

30:44STAFF SAID MAYBE A FUTURE PILOTN

30:47MINNEAPOLIS IF THERE IS

30:49INTEREST.

30:50AND LASTLY, DETROIT'S DISTRICT

30:52BUSINESS LIAISONS AND CORRIDOR

30:53COMPLIANCE EVENTS.

30:55EACH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT HAS A

30:56DEDICATED DISTRICT BUSINESS

30:58LIAISON, WHO ACTS AS A CONDUIT

31:00OF INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATION

31:01BETWEEN THE CITY AND BUSINESS

31:03OWNERS IN THAT DISTRICT.

31:05LIAISONS CAN KEEP BUSINESSES

31:06INFORMED AND ADVOCATE FOR

31:08DISTRICT BUSINESSES BY BRINGING

31:10COMMON ISSUES TO CITY LEADERSHIP

31:12AND HELPING FIND SOLUTIONS.

31:13THEY ALSO HELP THE CITY STAY

31:15NNECTED TO THE SMALL BUSINESS

31:17COMMUNITY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND

31:18THEIR CONCERNS AND NEEDS.

31:21LIAISONS ALSO HOST AT LEAST ONE

31:23CORRIDOR COMIANCE EVENT IN

31:24THEIR DISTRICT EACH YEAR.

31:26THESE EDUCATIONAL EVENTS BRING

31:27CITY SERVICES AND CITY STAFF OUT

31:29INTO THE COMMUNITY RATHER THAN

31:33REQUIRING BUSINESSES TO GO TO

31:35THE CITY FOR HELP.

31:38THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

31:39THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

31:40AND I'HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

31:42QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION

31:43OR THE REPORT.

31:45>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

31:47THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

31:50IT WAS REALLY THOROUGH, AND IT

31:50WAS HELPFUL TO GET A LITTLE BIT

31:51OF A PICTURE INTO WHAT'S GOING

31:53TO BE LAUNCHED HERE IN THE CITY

31:56OF MINNEAPOLIS.

31:56I'LL LOOK TO THE QUEUE AND SEE

31:59IF MEMBERS ARE HERE FOR

32:00DISCUSSION.

32:01I'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW.

32:04>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.

32:06THANYOU R THE PRESENTATION.

32:09I BROUGHT THE STAFF DIRECTIVE

32:11FORWARD BECAUSE I GET A LOT OF

32:12QUESTIONS ABOUT STREAMLINING THE

32:16PROCESS, EFFICIENCY FROM

32:19BUSINESS OWNERS AND FOLKS

32:21STARTING NEW BUSINESSES,

32:24CONCERNS ABOUT EQUITABILITY AND

32:25THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

32:27SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE

32:30PRESENTATION.

32:30AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE

32:31DOING SOME WK NOW TO KIND OF

32:35HELP WITH THIS, BUT I'M JUST

32:37INTERESTED IN WHAT ADDITIONAL

32:39STEPS WE CLD TAKE AS A CITY TO

32:42MAKE THESE PROCESSES A LOT

32:45TTER FOR FOLKS, AND THEN... SO

32:47OUTSIDE OF WHAT YOU SAID IS

32:50HAPPENING NOW, LIKE SOME OF THE

32:52STEPS WE COULD TAKE.

32:53AND ALSO WANT TO LEARN MORE

32:56ABOUT POLY.

32:57WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A GOOD

32:59NAME FOR OURS, IF WE'RE GOING TO

33:00BE DOING IT.

33:01BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST WANT TO KNOW

33:03MORE ABOUT WHAT SAINT PAUL IS

33:04DOING.

33:05IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING WELL

33:06IN SAINT PAUL I HAVE TALKED TO

33:08SOME FOLKS OVER THERE ABOUT THE

33:10ONLINE PORTAL AND HOW THAT'S

33:13HELPING NOT ONLY WITH STAFF

33:14ME, BUT ALSO WITH FOLKS WHO

33:16NEED SUPPORT IN NAVIGATING

33:20THROUGH APPLICATION PROCESSES,

33:22JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS

33:25NEEDED.

33:27SO WHAT'S YOUR... WHAT ARE YOU

33:30THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE COULD

33:31ACTUALLY DO?

33:32>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL

33:35MEMBER VETAW, I THINK THAT SOME

33:37OF THE ONGOING WORK HIGHLIGHTED

33:38IS THE REVIEW THAT PMI IS

33:39PERFORMING RIGHT NOW A DETAILED

33:41REVIEW OF REGULATIONS AND

33:45PROCESSES THAT CAN POTENTIALLY

33:47BE UPDATED OR REMOVED, YOU KNOW,

33:51DUE TO REDUNDANCY, OR JUST NOT

33:53NECESSARY ANYME.

33:59IN THE TIME FRAME THAT I WORKED

34:00ON THIS, THAT WAS NOT...OU

34:02KNOW, THE DETAILS OF THAT WAS

34:03NOT PART OF MY... BUT I KNOW

34:04THAT THEY'RE DOING THE WORK AND

34:05I THINK CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS

34:06WITH THEM WOULD CERTAINLY BE

34:08USEFUL.

34:08THE ONLINE LICENSING AND PORTAL

34:10SYSTEM, LIKE I SAID, IT, I

34:15THINK, IS PILOTING THIS MONTH

34:16WITH THOSE SIX HEALTH DEPARTMENT

34:18PERMITS.

34:18THAT, I THINK, WILL BE REALLY

34:20HUGE.

34:21HAVING PEOPLE BE ABLE TO GET

34:24REAL TIME UPDATES ON WHEN THEY

34:25PASS INSPECTION, WHEN THEY DON'T

34:26PASS INSPECTION, HAVING

34:29IMMEDIE CONTACT, YOU KNOW,

34:30THROUGH THE SYSTEM WITHHEIR

34:31INSPECTORS OR OTHER PEOPLE THAT

34:33CAN ASK QUESTIONS TO, I THINK

34:34THAT WILL BE REALLY BIG IN

34:36LOOKING AT OTH CITIES, AND

34:37TALKING TO OTHER CITIES,THOSE..D

34:42THE ONLINE PORTAL... AND I

34:43APOLOGIZE, I KNOW I AM MOSTLYJUT

34:47THESE THREE CATEGORIES REALLY

34:48ARE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING

34:50TO ADDRESS THIS.

34:51AND SO WHILE WE DO HAVE WORK

34:55STARTED, I THINK CONTINUING TO

34:57EVALUATE THAT WORK AND CONSIDER,

34:58YOU KNOW, HOW IT CAN BE

35:00SUPPORTED, INCLUDING THALIKE A

35:02MORE DETAILED BUSINESS

35:03CONCIERGE, THAT ONE-STOP PERSON,

35:06THAT LIKE YOUR BUSINESS... IF I

35:08LET'S SAY I'M GOING TO START A

35:08BUSINESS I KNOW THAT I HAVE ANY

35:09QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY CITY PROCES

35:10I CAN REACH OUT TO THAT ONE

35:11PERSON.

35:12THE BUSINESS CMUNITY SEEMED

35:14VERY ENTHRALLED WITH THAT.

35:16THAT WAS LIKE SOMETHING THAT

35:18WOULBE REALLY HELPFUL.

35:20IT CAN HELP THROUGH LANGUAGE

35:22BARRIERS, CULTURAL BARRIERS,

35:23WHEN THERE'S JUST THAT ONE

35:23CONSISTENT CONTACT.

35:24AND SO I REALLY DO THINK THAT

35:26THOSE THREE OVERARCHING THINGS,

35:27EVEN THOUGH WORK IS UNDERWAY IN

35:28MANY OF THEM, THOSE REALLY ARE

35:31THE PATHS FORRD RIGHT NOW.

35:32AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I COULD

35:33FIND OTHER CITIES ARE DOING TO

35:34ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

35:36>> OKAY.

35:36THANK YOU FOR THAT.

35:38AND I... YOU KNOW, THE P WORK

35:40IS ALSO A NEW THING TO ME, TOO.

35:42I DIDN'T KNOW OF THAT WHEN WE

35:44WERE WORKING ON THE STAFF

35:46DIRECTIVE.

35:47SO YEAH, WE'LL CHECK IN AND TO

35:47SEE WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, BUT

35:49I WASN'T AWARE UNTIL AFT WE

35:53WROTE THE STAFF DIRECTIVE.

35:54THE OTHER THING IS... DID YOU

35:56SEE IF ANY CITIES HAD COST

35:59SAVINGS WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS

36:00SORT OF WORK, ONCE THEY MOVE TO

36:03NEW SYSTEMS OR COMBINE SOME OF

36:06THESE THINGS, DID YOU SEE A

36:08COST... DID THEY SEE A COST

36:10SAVINGS?

36:11>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL

36:14MEMBER VETAW, I WILL BE HONEST

36:14MOST OF THE PEOPLE I SPOKE WITH

36:15IN THE CITIES WERE NOT IN THE

36:17DETAILS OF THAT LEVEL.

36:19THEY WERE MANAGING THE CHANGES.

36:23THE ONLINE PORTAL SYSTEM... I'M

36:24NOT SURE IF COST SAVING IS WHAT

36:27THEY'RE NECESSARILY LOOKING FOR

36:30BUT STAFF TIME SAVING, THE

36:32CAPACITY OF THEIR STAFF, WHICH

36:34IS COST AS WELL ASSOCIATED, BUT

36:36I MEAN STAFF, FREEING THEM UP TO

36:38NOT DO DUPLICATIVE WORK, TO NOT

36:40HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PHYSICALLY

36:41FILL OUT A FORM AND AN

36:42INSPECTION AND THEN HAVE IT SIT

36:43ON THEIR DESK FOR 3 OR 4 DAYS

36:46BEFORE THEY HAVE TIME TO

36:46MANUALLY ENTER IT.

36:47NOT HAVING STAFF SPEND TIME

36:49MANUALLY ENTERING PERMITS OR

36:52LICENSE APPLICATIONS, THAT WAS

36:53REALLY BIG.

36:54NOT HAVING TO ANSWER PHONE

36:56CALLS, LE WHERE IS MY... YOU

36:58KNOW, WHERE IS MY APPLICATION

36:59AT?

36:59AND THEN THEM HAVING TO GO INTO

37:00THE SYSTEM AND LOOK WHERE IT'S

37:02AT, OR TO TRY TO SETTLE DISPUTES

37:04BEEEN THE BUSINESS OWNER AND

37:06THE BUSINESS OWNER'S LAWYER, OR

37:08THE BUSINESS OWNER'S CONTRACTOR,

37:09WHO SAID THEY SUBMITTED THIS,

37:11YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS AGO, AND

37:13WHY IS THE CITY TAKING SO LONG?

37:14WHEN IN REALITY THEY SUBMITTED

37:16SIX WEEKS AGO, AND THESE SYSTEMS

37:18NOW SHOW THAT.

37:19THEY CAN ACTUALLY SHOW THE

37:20BUSINESS OWNER, LIKE THIS IS THE

37:22DATE THIS WAS SUBMITTED, YOU

37:24KNOW, THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT.

37:26>> THA YOU.

37:26AND THEN THE LAST THING IS...

37:28YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE

37:30THIS OPPORNITY TO MAYBE HAVE A

37:32FUTURE WHERE ITS ELECTRONIC.

37:33I HAVE A PERSON IN MY WARD RIGHT

37:35NOW WHO IS... WHO HAS BEEN

37:39TRYING TO APPLY FOR A BUSINESS

37:40LICENSE WELL OVER A YEAR, AND

37:42LANGUAGE IS A BARRIER, BUT ALSO

37:46LITERACY IS A BARRIER.

37:48AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SHAME

37:51ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

37:52OPLE DON'T WANT TO WALK INTO

37:54AN ALREADY INTIMIDATING PLACE

37:55AND SAY TO PEOPLE WHO THEYEE

37:57AS PROFESSIONALS THAT "I CAN'T

37:59READ AND WRITE" OR "I DON'T HAVE

38:01THE LITERACY SKILLS THAT I NEED

38:04TO COMPLETE THIS."

38:06AND SO I'M HOPING THAT, YOU

38:07KNOW, GOING TO A MODEL WHERE

38:08THINGS ARE ONLINE... I MEAN,

38:10THIS PARTICULAR PERSON GETS HELP

38:12FROM THEIR CHILDREN, AND LIKE

38:14THAT'S MUCH EASIER IF YOU'RE

38:15SITTING AT HOME, TO ASK YOUR

38:18CHILD TO HELP YOU, H, YOU KNOW,

38:22TRANSLATE THINGS OR READ THINGS,

38:23VERSUS COMING TO A CITY BUILDING

38:24WITH PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW AND,

38:26YO KNOW, HAVE TO BE THAT

38:28VULNERABLE.

38:29SO THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THE

38:29REASONS I WAS LOOKING INTO THIS,

38:31AND SOME OF THE CITIES

38:33DEFINITELY SAW LARGER AMOUN OF

38:36PEOPLE WHO NEED THOSE ONLINE

38:40SERVICES FOR LANGUAGE AND FOR

38:40LITERACY ISSUES, KIND OF BEING

38:42ALLEVIATED BY JUST OFFERING THE

38:44SERVICE.

38:44THANK YOU.

38:44THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

38:45THANK YOU FOR THIS WORK.

38:47>> THANK YOU.

38:48>> THANK YOU.

38:49NEXT IS COUNCIL MEMBER SHAFFER.

38:52>> THANK YOU.

38:53I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS WORK AS

38:54WELL.

38:55VERY DAMNING RESPONSES, SO TO

38:58SPEAK, HEARING MINNEAPOLIS IS

39:02COMPLEX, HARD TO WORK WITH, AND

39:03THE PERCEPTIONS THAT

39:05MINNEAPOLIS IS HARD TO DO

39:06BUSINESS IN.

39:11WITH FEW POSITIVE COMMENTS TT

39:11YOU RECVED FROM THOSE YOU

39:14INTERVIEWED, I SEE THIS AS A

39:15CALL TO ACTION.

39:17I BELIEVE THAT IT IS TIME NOW

39:20FOR US TO CHANGE THIS DIALOG BY

39:22HAVING A MORE PREDICTABLE,

39:27FRIENDLY, EASY-TO-USE USER

39:28EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYONE WHO

39:29WANTS TO BRING THEIR BUSINESS TO

39:31MINNEAPOLIS.

39:32SO I HOPE WE AS A COUNCIL TAKE

39:35THIS AS A FIVE-ALARM FIRE, SO TO

39:39SPEAK, WITH THE COMMENTS THAT

39:42YOU SOLICITED OPEN ENDEDLY,

39:45BECAUSE I THINK THAT TELLS US,

39:48IN AN ERA WHEN WE NEED TO DRIVE

39:50REVENUE FOR OUR CITY, WHEN WE

39:52ARE FACING FISCAL BUDGETS LIKE

39:54WE'RE FACING THIS YEAR, WE HAVE

39:57TO LOOK AT WHAT BUSINESSES ARE

40:00TELLING US.

40:02WE HAVE TO DIG INTO THE DETAILS

40:03OF HOW WE CAN IMPROVE TS

40:06PROCESS.

40:06NOT JUST FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE,

40:09BUT FOR THE ACTUAL REVENUE OF

40:10OUR CITY.

40:12BECAUSE IF WEAVE A REPUTATION

40:15OF BEING UNFRIENDLY TO BUSINESS,

40:17THAT REPUTATION SPREADS.

40:18AND IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THAT

40:21DIOG.

40:21I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OR

40:23OPPORTUNITIES THAT I SEE.

40:25I REALLY LOVE ALL OF THESE IDEAS

40:26THAT YOU'RE BEGINNING TO BRING

40:28FORWARD ABOUT ALL OF THESE

40:30DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR

40:31IMPROVEMENTS.

40:34I BELIEVE... OR I THOUGHT THERE

40:35WERE SOME PARTS OF OUR CITY THAT

40:37ALREADY USED AN ONLINE PROCESS

40:39FOR GETTING A PERMIT.

40:40I'M THINKING OF LIKE, YOU KNOW,

40:43YOUR PET LICENSE AND THINGS LIKE

40:44THAT.

40:44CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW

40:47OF... ARE THERE SOME AREAS WHERE

40:49WE TYPICALLY DO THAT ONLINE

40:51CURRENTLY?

40:51>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL

40:54MEMBER SHAFFER, I WILL BE

40:55HONEST, I DIDN'T LOO AT PET

40:58PERMITTING SPECIFICALLY.

40:58I ALSO LOOKED AT BUSINESS

40:59LICENSING AND PERMIING.

41:00BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME

41:02BUILDING PERMITS THAT

41:04CONTRACTORS CAN SPECIFICALLY

41:05APPLY FOR ONLINE ALREADY.

41:07IT IS DISCUSSED IN THE REPORT.

41:09MY APOLOGIES, I CAN'T REMEMBER

41:10THE NAME OF THE SOFTWARE SYSTEM.

41:12FOR LIKE ONE AND TWO DWELLING

41:15UNITS AND STUFF.

41:16SO THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC

41:18CAPABILITIES ALREADYN THE

41:19CITY.

41:19THIS OVERARCHING IDEA OF ONE

41:22ONLINE PLATFORM FOR ALL OF THAT,

41:26SO THAT WOULD... MY

41:31UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT THIS LOOP

41:31FROM IT THEY'RE LOOKING AT FOR

41:32THE THIS NEW IDEA NEW IDEA WOULD

41:36ENCOMPASS ALL PERMITTING AND

41:37LICENSING.

41:38AGAI I GUESS I WILL BE HONEST,

41:40I DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY ASK ABOUT

41:42PETS, BUALL THE PERMITTING AND

41:43LICENSING FOR BUSINESS

41:44REGULATIONS AND REGULATORY

41:45ISSUES.

41:45>> WELL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF

41:47WE COULD HAVE ALL OF OUR

41:49PERMITS, EVERYTHING ALL IN ONE

41:50SPOT FOR EASE OF... I THINK OF

41:51LIKE PARKS AND REC PROGRAMING.

41:53YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO GO TO

41:54SIGN UP FOR WHICH CLASS YOU NEED

41:56WHEN YOU WANT IT, ETC.

41:58THAT'S FANTASTIC.

42:00I DO THINK THERE'S ONE

42:00OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD

42:01CONTINUE TO EXPLORE.

42:03YOU MENTIONED THAT SOME

42:04BUSINESSES WITHIN OUR CITY NEVER

42:06HAVE CONTACT WITH THE CITY.

42:09AND THAT'S TO BE EXPECTED.

42:10THEY DON'T NEED A LICENSE.

42:12THEY DON'T NEED THIS, THAT OR

42:14THE OTHER THING.

42:14BUT I REALLY THINK WE NEED A

42:16PLAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE

42:17TO DRIVE REGULATION... I MEAN,

42:21REVENUE... YOU KNOW, RIGHT?

42:23WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS

42:25NARRATIVE, IF WE'RE GOING TO

42:26CONTINUE TO REALLY DRIVE OUR

42:28REVENUES, WE NEED TO BE IN

42:29CONTACT TH EVERY BUSINESS IN

42:30OUR CITY, NOT JUST THOSE THAT WE

42:32CURRENTLY HAVE TOUCH POINTS WITH

42:34THROUGH LICENSING OR PERMITTING

42:36OR INSPECTIONS.BUT ALL OF THE BO

42:41FIND OUT WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES

42:43US A CHOICE... YOU KNOW, WHY ARE

42:45YOU DOING BUSINESS HERE IN

42:47MINNEAPOLIS?

42:47AND HOW CAN WE SUPPORT YOU?

42:49WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO CHEERLEAD

42:51YOUR EFFORTS AND NOT LET THOSE

42:54PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY SLIDE

42:56UNDER THE RADAR.

42:57I THINK OF LIKE WHEN GRECO LEFT,

42:59THERE WAS NOT MUCH ANNOUNCEMENT

43:02OR KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY WOULD BE

43:03LEAVING OUR CITY.

43:05AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR

43:06US TO UNDSTAND.

43:08NOT ONLY THE BUSINESSES WE HAVE

43:09TOUCH POINTS WITH, BUT THOSE

43:11BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OR

43:13OFF OUR RADAR, TO GET THEIR

43:15INPUT AND TO GET THEIR IDEAS.

43:17SO THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.

43:19IT'S REALLY EXCITING.

43:20AND I THINK, AGAIN, THAT IT'S A

43:23WAKE-UP CALL FOR US AS A COUNCIL

43:25THAT WE HAVE A BAD REPUTATION IN

43:26THE AREA OF BUSINESS

43:28DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT NEEDS TO

43:29CHANGE.

43:30>> THANK YOU.

43:34>> NEXT UP IS COUNCIL MEMBER

43:35WONSLEY.

43:36>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

43:40ACTUALLY, CONTINUING ON FROM THE

43:40POINT THAT COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER

43:42JUST RAISED, JUST GOING THROUGH

43:44THE REPORT ITSELF, I THINK THAT

43:45THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION OR

43:47CONFUSING POINTS FOR ME, BECAUSE

43:49I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU DID

43:53ENGAGEMENT WITH A NUMBER OF

43:54STAKEHOLDERS THAT ACTUALLY

43:54OFFERED DIFFERING PERCEPTIONS

43:56AND OPINIONS ABOUT ACTUALLY THE

43:59BUSINE ENVIRONMENT HERE IN

44:00MINNEAPOLIS.

44:01JUST LOOKING ON PAGE 21, WHERE

44:02YOU LOOKED AT GETTINADDITIONAL

44:03FEEDBACK FROM OUR STAFF, IT

44:05SAYS, HER, ACCORDING TO CPED,

44:10THE LARGEST ISSUES THEY HEAR

44:10FROM SMALL BUSINESSES AREROUND

44:13ROAD CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS AND

44:14LIVABILITY ISSUES, AS WELL AS

44:15HIGHER COSTS IN MINNEAPIS.

44:16AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY

44:17FASCINATING TO ME, THE MINNESOTA

44:19DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENAND

44:22ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, DEED, DID

44:24STAFF MILARLY SAID THAT THEY

44:25ACTUALLY DON'T HEAR THAT IT'S

44:26HARDER TO DO BUSINESS IN

44:29MIEAPOLIS BECAUSE OF LICENSING

44:30REGULATIONS, AND THAT'S GOING TO

44:30GET TO MY NEXT QUESTION.

44:32BUT MOSTLY DUE TO HIGHER COSTS

44:35AND SOME OF THEROADER

44:39LIVABILITY MATTERS THAT COMES

44:41WITH DOING BUSINESS IN A

44:45METROPOLITAN CITY.

44:45SO I THI THAT IS ACTUALLY

44:46ENLIGHTENING BECAUSE ONE OF THE

44:47FIRST RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU

44:47PUT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, THAT

44:49ACTUALLY WAS KIND OF CONCERNING

44:52TO ME WAS THE REDUCING OF

44:53REGULATIONS PIECE.

44:54SO I AT LEAST WANTED TO GET A

44:56LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY, BECAUSE

44:57THROUGHOUT THE REPORT, I

44:59ACTUALLY NAMES... LIKE I'M

45:00LOOKING HERE, ALSO ON PAGE 21,

45:03THE SMALBUSINESS TEAM SAYS

45:04THAT THEY PRIMARILY DO NOT GET

45:07COMPLAINTS ABOUT REGULATORY

45:09ISSUES, BUT THAT IS SUCH A MAJOR

45:10HIGHLIGHT IN THIS REPORT.

45:12AND I THINK OFTENTIMES, WHEN

45:13YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT WHAT IS

45:14NEEDED TO DO SINESS, IT'S

45:16OFTEN MET WITH THIS VERY

45:21NEOLIBERAL ASPECT OF WE NEED TO

45:23REDUCE REGULATIONS, MAKE IT, YOU

45:27KNOW, MORE FLEXIBLE, MORE

45:28STREAMLINED.THOSE ARE USUALLY TS

45:30FOR IT.

45:31BUT OFTEN WE SET REGULATIONS IN

45:34PLACE TO NOT JUST PROTECT THE

45:36BUSINESSES THEMSELVES, BUT TO

45:37UPHOLD A STANDARD FOR THE

45:38BROADER COMMUNITY THAT ALSO HAS

45:42TO BE INTERFACING WITH THESE

45:44BUSINESSES.

45:44SO I ACTUALLY WANT TO KNOW IN

45:45THIS REPT, AT LEAST FROM WHAT

45:47I SAW, I DIDN'T SEE ANY

45:49SPECIFICS, AT LEAST FROM STAFF,

45:50BUT ARE THERE SPECIFIC

45:51REGULATIONS THAT YOU CAME ABOUT

45:54THAT APPARENTLY LENDS ITSELF TO

45:59LEGITIMIZING OR AFFIRMING THIS

46:01FEAR OF IT'S OUR REGULATORY

46:03ENVIRONMENT THAT'S MAKING IT

46:04CHALLENGING TO DO BUSINESS IN

46:07MINNEAPOLIS?

46:09>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL

46:10MEMBERONSLEY, I WANT TO MAKE

46:11IT CLEAR THAT THE SCOPE OF MY

46:13REPORT WAS TO LOOK AT HOW WE

46:14COULD REDUCE THE REGULATORY

46:17ENVIRONMENT AND SUPPORT

46:18BUSINESSES THROUGH THAT PROCESSE

46:21THE MOST LARGEST ISSUES, THE

46:23LARGEST CHALLENGES, AND HOW CAN

46:25WE ADDRESS THOSE FOR GETTING

46:26BUSINESSES TO MINNEAPOLIS.

46:28THAT BEING SAID, I INCLUDED SOME

46:30OF THOSE PIECES TO POINT OUT

46:32THAT THOSE PIECES EXIST, AND

46:34IMPROVING THE REGULATORY

46:35ENVIRONMENT WILL NOT FIX ALL

46:37ISSUES FOR BUSINESSES, BUT

46:38YOU'RE RIGHT, I DID NOT EXPLORE

46:40THOSE OTHER ISSUES MORE THAN

46:41WHAT IS MENTIONED IN THE REPORT.

46:44I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TONS

46:50COMMUNITY, STAFF THAT I SPOKE

46:51WITH FROM THOSE ORGANIZATIONS

46:54ALSO TALKED ABOUT... AS WELL AS

46:58CPED DID TALK ABOUT THE

46:59CONSTRUCTION BEING A BIGGER

47:02ISSUE, HIGH,OU KNOW, HIGH

47:06PRICES. I THINK THERE'S A LIST

47:07OF ABOUT LIKE 20 COMMON

47:07COMPLAINTS THAT I INCLUDED IN

47:08THE REVIEWING AND REDUCING

47:09REGULATION SECTION FROM THE

47:09BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT WERE

47:11JU PRETTY MUCH VERBATIM FROM

47:12THEM.

47:12I DIDN'T LIKE SCOPE ANY

47:14FEASIBILITY OR ANYTHING LIKE

47:18THAT.

47:19RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS NOT THE

47:21MOST... YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS ISN'T

47:22THE NUMBER-ONE ISSUE THAT

47:25BUSINESSES BRING FORWARD.

47:29THE ISSUE OF THE HIGHER WAGES,

47:30THE INCREASE IN THE HIGHER

47:31TAXES, THOSE ARE CERTAINLY

47:32LARGER ISSS MORE FREQUENTLY

47:32BROUGHT FORWARD.

47:34BUT AGAIN, GIVEN THE SCOPE, THE

47:35POINT WAS TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE

47:36COULD REDUCE IN REVIEW, AND THAT

47:38IS A LOT OF THE WORK THAT PMI IS

47:40DOING IN THAT ONGOING WORK, MUCH

47:45MORE ON A... MY UNDERSTANDING IS

47:46ON A MUCH MORE WORKING CLOSELY

47:47WITH DEPARTMENTS AND SORT OF

47:48DOING LINE ITEM EDITS OF LIKE

47:50WHAT REGULATIONS ARE REMOVABLE.

47:54AND I DON'T THINK WITH THE GOAL

47:57OF DECREASING... OR INCREASING

47:59RISK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT

48:00JUST SOMETIMES THERE ARE A FEW

48:03THAT ARE... THAT IS DUPLICATIVE

48:05WITH THE STATE.

48:05OR WE HAVE THIS REQUIREMENT LIKE

48:06A PINBALL MACHINE LICENSE

48:08REQUIREMENT.

48:08I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THAT'S

48:10NECESSARY.

48:10I'M NOT THE EXPERT.

48:11IT'S NOT FOR ME TO DECIDE.

48:14THEY ARE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE

48:16THAT TO SEE IF THERE ARE THINGS

48:16THAT THEY CAN REMOVE WHILE STILL

48:17MAINTAINING APPROPRIATE SAFETY

48:18FOR ALL INVOLVED.

48:19>> OY.

48:19THANK YOU FOR THAT.

48:22YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO FIND WHICH

48:23SECTION I SHOULD POINT TO,

48:26BECAUSE AGAIN I WANT TO KNOW...

48:27BECAUSE YOU DID GOOD JOB OF

48:31GIVING WHAT OTHER CITIESRE

48:32DOING AS EXAMPLES FOR, YOU KNOW,

48:34REGULATIONS OR THE WAYS IN WHICH

48:36THEY'VE APPROACHED REDUCING,

48:39QUOTE UNQUOTE, REGULATIONS, AND

48:40THEN STRMLINING.

48:41YOU NOTED SOME OF THOSE EXAMPLES

48:44NOW, BUT PINBALL, FOR INSTANCE,

48:46LIKE THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR

48:46BECAUSE OFTENTIMES IN OUR

48:47CONVERSATIONS WE ARE HEARING

48:48SOME OF THE THINGS AROUND LIKE

48:48MINIMUM WAGE, FOR INSTANCE, OR I

48:49THINK A NUMBER OF US ACTUALLY

48:53HEAR SOME OFHE LIVABILITY

48:54MATTERS THAT YOU MENTIONED.

48:54YOU KNOW, YOU HIGHLIGHTED VERY

48:56YOU KNOW BROADLY IN THE INPUT,

48:58BUT THAT WAS NOT THE CHARGE TO

49:00REALLY DIVE INTO.

49:01BUT I WANTED TO KNOW SOME MORE

49:01OF THE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS THAT

49:04STAFF IS PURSUING AT THIS CITY

49:09LEVEL.

49:09>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL

49:12MEMBER WONSLEY, SO ON PAGE 19,

49:14THERE ARE DITIONAL ONGOING AND

49:16PLANNED REFORMS.

49:17THAT'S A LIST OF TEN OF THEM.

49:21AND THEN I'M SO SORRY, I'M

49:23TRYING TO FIND THE... AND

49:25THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO

49:26EXPLORE, STARTING ON PAGE 21,

49:28THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DETAILED

49:29ONES THAT STAFF GAVE ME, OR I

49:33THINK THESE 21 AND 22 ARE ALL

49:36STAFF.AND OKAY, ON PAGES 24 TO E

49:39THE CURRENT PAIN POINTS AND

49:41COMMON COMPLAINTS LISTED BY

49:44THOSE BUSINE COMMUNITY

49:46ORGANIZATIONS.

49:46AND SO THAT'S A LIST OF 20.

49:48THOSE OTHER LISTS ON THE

49:49PRECEDING PAGES, THOSE ARE BY

49:51STAFF, THOSE ARE COMMON PAIN

49:52POINTS.

49:52HOW TO EXACTLY FIX ALL THOSE, OR

49:54IF THEY'RE EVEN ALL FIXABLE,

49:56BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ONE IN

49:58THERE THAT I THINK IS DICTATED

50:00BY A STATE LEVEL.

50:02>> RIGHT.

50:02>> BUT THAT IS STILL THE ISSUE

50:03THEY SAY IS AN ISSUE FOR THEM.

50:04SO I SLL WANTED TO INCLUDE IT

50:05IN THE REPORT, EVEN IT'S A

50:07STATE-LEVEL LAW.

50:09>> RIGHT.

50:09AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU

50:10POINTED OUT , TOO, WAS AT LEAST

50:12SOME OF THE CITIES, WHY THEY'RE

50:13PURSUING FOR INSTANCE, LIKE AI

50:17PLATFORMS TO SUPPORT

50:18STREAMLINING AND ESSENTIALLY

50:19DECREASE... I THINK IN THE

50:20REPORT YOU NAME STAFF WORKLOAD.

50:23WITH THAT, I THINK SOMETIMES

50:24WE'VE HEARD WITH OUR LICENSING

50:30OR PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS THAT

50:30ARE ATTACHED TO FEES, THAT

50:33OFTENTIMES THERE IS NOT THAT

50:35OUTREACH OR ENGAGEMENT HAPPENING

50:36AT THE STAFF LEVEL TO BUSINESSES

50:37TO ALSO LET THEM KNOW, ONE, YOU

50:39HAVE TO PAY, BUT ALSO, THIS IS

50:42WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR.

50:43AND THOSE FEES ARE ACTUALL

50:44SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT THEN THAT

50:46OUTREACH FOR BUSINESSES TO KNOWD

50:50POLICIES IN PLACE?

50:51I SAW YOUR REPORT SOMEWHAT

50:54MENTIONED A BIT ABOUT THE FEE

50:56STUDY THAT'S GOING ON.

50:57BUT DID ANY OF OUR STAFF NOTE

50:59LIKE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT IF

51:01WE WERE BETTER UTILIZING OUR FEE

51:03STRUCTURES, HOW THAT COULD ALSO

51:04ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT STRAIN

51:05THAT TY'RE EXPERIENCING IN

51:06THEIR WORKLOAD CAPACITIES?

51:08>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL

51:10MEMBER WONSLEY, HONESTLY, I DID

51:12NOT DIVE DEEPLY INTO THE FEE

51:13OPTION, BECAUSE THAT FEE STUDY

51:15IS ALREADY GOING ON, AND THAT'S

51:16MOSTLY WHAT STAFF DISCUSSED WITH

51:18ME.

51:19>> OKAY.

51:19THANK YOU.

51:20AND THEN CAN YOU... DID YOU SEE

51:25IN... YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE

51:26PAIN POINTS OR SOME OF THE

51:27RECOMMENDATIONS SPECIFICALLY,

51:28I'M THINKING LIKE RENTAL

51:31LICENSING TO... AND MAYBE IF

51:32THIS HAPPENED IN OTHER CITIES,

51:34ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP

51:34FOR ME THAT MADE ME A LITTLE BIT

51:36NERVOUS, LIKE I THINK THERE ARE

51:39AVENUE TO STREAMLINE SOME

51:41PROCESSES, AND WHERE I THINK IN

51:42THE CITY WE'RE STRUGGLING, IT'S

51:46NOT ALSO STANDARDIZED.

51:47I THINK YOUR REPORT HIGHLIGHTS

51:50THAT.

51:50BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME AVENUES

51:52WHERE RENTAL LICENSING FEES

51:54ACTUALLY IS VERY SIMPLE, AND

51:55THERE'S BEEN A PROBLEM WITH

51:58THAT, WHERE THERE'S AN

51:59EXPECTATION THAT PROPERTY OWNERS

51:59FOR CERTAIN LICENSINGEES, THEY

52:02JUST ACTUALLY GO ONLINE, SUBMIT

52:04A THING AND PUT THEIR PAYNT

52:06IN, AND THAT'S IT.

52:08AND LIKE IT'S A VERY STREAMLINED

52:11PROCESS.

52:12MY OFFICE, UNFORTUNATELY,

52:13BECAUSE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED IN

52:15MY WARD, ONE THESE PROPERTIES,

52:16WHERE WE LEARNED THAT THIS IS

52:18THE PROCESS, LED TO THE UNITS

52:21THAT WERE A PART OF THAT

52:24PROPERTY ACTUALLY BEING

52:27SUBSTANDARD CONDITIONS, AND THE

52:28INSPECTIONS ON THOSE UNITS HAD

52:29NOT HAPPENED BECAUSE THERE'S

52:31THIS VERY LIKE, YOU KNOW,

52:33SIMPLISTIC PROCESS WHERE IT'S

52:35JUST LIKE, OH, YOU JUST GO

52:39UPLOAD IT.

52:39IT WASN'T ON OUR RADAR

52:39SENTIALLY FOR STAFF.

52:41SO I WANTED TO KNOW IF ANY OF

52:42YOUR ANALYZES LOOKED AT LIKE THE

52:43BALANCING OF THAT, TOO, OF LIKE

52:47THE STREAMLINING, TO MAKE SURE

52:48WE'RE ALSO ENSURING QUALITY

52:51CONDITIONS, OR QUALITY ASSURANCE

52:52THROUGH IN THAT PROCESS.

52:53ESPECIALLY I THINK YOU

52:55MENTIONED, LIKE CALIFORNIA,

52:56WHERE THEY HAVE JUST A TWO YEAR

52:58LIKE PERMIT PROCESS.

52:58AND HOW DO YOU BALANCE THAT WITH

52:59THE NEED TO MAKE SURE, LIKE,

53:02YOU'RE STILL AS A CITY, LIKE,

53:05DOING THE ENRCEMENT AND

53:05INSPECTIONS ON THOSE THINGS?

53:07>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL

53:10MEMBER WONSLEY, I THINK THAT THE

53:12DETAILED ANALYSIS OF ANY CHANGES

53:14NEEDS TO BE COMPLETE BY THE

53:17STAFF WHO ARE EXPERTS IN THAT

53:18AREA, AND I THINK THEY CAN ALL

53:19SPEAK TO THAT.

53:21BUT I THINK IT WAS DETROIT THAT

53:23HAD THE TWO-YEAR LICENSE

53:25RENEWAL.

53:25AND IT WAS MOST OF THEIR

53:26BUSINESSES, BUT NOT ALL OF THEIR

53:28BUSINESSES.

53:29SO, LIKE, THEY HAVE SOME

53:29BUSINESSES WHERE THERE ARE

53:30SPECIFIC SAFETY CONCERNS THAT

53:31THEY MAINTAIN THAT ANNUAL

53:33LICENSING REQUIREMENT.

53:35IT WAS BINESSES THAT THEY

53:36DETERMINED AS A CITY DIDN'T NEED

53:39THAT ONE-YEAR LICENSE RENEWAL,

53:41BECAUSE THEY HEARD FROM BUSINESS

53:42OWNERS THAT IT TOOK THEM FOURWES

53:45TOGETHER, ANOTHER MONTH BEFORE

53:47ANYTHING LIKE HAPPENED AND GOT

53:48BACK.

53:48AND THEN TEN MONTHS LATER

53:49THEY'RE STARTING THE PROCESS

53:51AGAIN FOR NO...S THE CITY

53:54DETERMINED, NO... IT DID NOT

53:56LESSEN T RISK TO THE

53:59EMPLOYEES, TO STAFF, TO MEMBERS

54:00OF THE PUBLIC.

54:01IT WAS JUST BECAUSE WE'D ALWAYS

54:03DONE IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AND

54:04THAT'S WHAT WE DO IT.

54:05SO WHEN THEY REVIEWED, THEY WERE

54:06VERY CAREFUL IN LOOKING AT WHICH

54:08BUSINESSES WOULD BE APPLICABLE.

54:09LIKE WHICH WAS ALLOWABLE.

54:12AND I THINK SOMETIMES, TOO,

54:14THINKING ABOUT THE BUSINESS

54:15REGULATIONS AND STREAMLINING...

54:16AND TO BE CLEAR, THESE ARE NO

54:18RECOMMENDATIONS.

54:20>> RIGHT.

54:21>> THIS IS LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER

54:23CITIES ARE DOING.

54:23BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN

54:26ALL-OR-NOTHING.

54:26IT CAN BE SOME REALLY SMALL

54:28ONES, LIKE THE NO LONGER

54:30REQUIRING... I THI IT WAS SAN

54:31FRANCISCO NO LONGER REQUIRING

54:31THE PERMITTING FOR TABLES AND

54:32CHAIRS ON SIDEWALKS.

54:32THAT WAS... THEY SAID THEY

54:34ELIMINATED 200 PERMITS EVERY

54:35YEAR.

54:35THEIR STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO

54:36PROCESS IT ANYMORE.

54:38BUSINESS OWNERS ARE HAPPY THEY

54:39DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE

54:41EFFORT ALL THE TIME.

54:41AND THEY JUST HAVE AN ONLINE

54:43REGISTTION.

54:43BUT NOW, THEY INCREASED THE

54:46FINES FOR VIOLATIONS,

54:48ESSENTIALLY.

54:48SO IT'S LIKE, LISTEN, WE'RE NOT

54:48GOING TO MAKE YOU DO THIS

54:49PROCESS, BUT IF WE CATCH YOU

54:50DOING SOMETHING OUT OF

54:52ORDINANCE, THEN YOU ARE GOING TO

54:53GET HIT WITH A LARGER VIOLATION,

54:56A LOT LARGER FINE.

54:58AND SO I THINK FINDING THAT

54:58BALANCE IS GOING TO BE FINDING

55:00THAT BALANCE FOR EACH AND EVERY

55:03CODE OR ORDINANCE OR PERMIT OR,

55:04YOU KNOW, FEE THAT YOU'RE

55:07EXAMINING.

55:07>> RIGHT.

55:09>> I DON'T THINK THERE COULD BE

55:09AN ACROSS THE BOARD, IT'S ALL

55:11GOOD TO REDUCE, IT'S ALL BAD TO

55:13REDUCE.I THINK IT'S GONNA BE REY

55:13DEPENDENT ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING

55:14AT REDUCING OR REMOVING.

55:17>>IGHT.

55:17AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED

55:18OF LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE

55:19SOME EXCEPTIONS, AND REALLY

55:21THINKING LIKE, WHAT YOU NEED TO

55:23DO FOR BUSINESS PERMITS, MIGHT

55:24NEED TO VARY A BIT BAS OFF OF

55:27THE BUSINESS PARTNERS THAT'S

55:29APPLYING THERE VERSUS LIKE ALSO

55:30LOOKING AT RENTAL LICENSES,

55:33ANOTHER AVENUE IN WHICH WE

55:34INTERACT WITH HOUSING OWNERS IN

55:36OUR BUSINESS SECTOR, THOSE MIGHT

55:37HAVE TO VARY.

55:37AND THAT DID MAKE ME THINK TOO

55:39OF IN YOUR REPORT YOU LOOKED AT

55:42SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AGAIN

55:47WITH THIS NONSTANDARDIZATIONPIEM

55:52DEFINITION OF WHAT IT MEANS TO

55:52BE A BUSINESS IN MINNEAPOLIS TOO

55:53DID YOU SEE IN SOME OF THE OTHER

55:54CITIES HOW THEY RECTIFY THAT?

55:54BECAUSE I'M ALSO THINKING OF

55:55THATF, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME

55:57MAYBE LARGER-SCALE BUSINESSES

55:59THEY MIGHT HAVE THE MNS OR THE

56:01RESOURCES TO HAVE STAFF GO

56:02THROUGH OUR PROCESSES AS OPPOSED

56:04TO A SMALLER BUSINESS, BUT WE

56:06DON'T HAVE, AGAIN, A UNIFORM

56:08DEFINITION.

56:08BECAUSE U MENTIONED THAT, TOO,

56:10OF LIKE OUR MINIMUM WAGE

56:11ORDINANCE HAS A DIFFERENT

56:12DEFINITION THAN HOW CPED, FOR

56:14SOME OF THEIR PROGRAMS, DEFINE

56:16SMALL BUSINESSES.

56:16DID YOU SEE IF ANY CITIES ALSO

56:18LIKE USE THAT AS AN AVENUE OF

56:20LIKE CREATING THAT UNIFORMITY OF

56:21HOW THEY DEFINE DIFFERENT TIERS

56:23OF BUSINESSES?

56:24>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL

56:26MEMBER WONSLEY, NO, WE ARE NOT

56:28ALONE IN THAT.

56:28ALMOST NO CITY I SPOKEITH HAD

56:30REALLY ANY SPECIFIC DEFINITION

56:32SPECIFIC TO THEIR CITY.

56:32IT WAS MOSTLY LIKE IF IT WAS A

56:34PROGRAM DEALING WITH THE FEDERAL

56:36GOVERNMENT, IT FOLLOWED THE

56:37FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GUIDELINES,

56:38WHICH I THINK IS 500 EMPLOYEES

56:41OR FEWER.

56:42THEN SOME CITIES HAD... I MEAN,

56:45INTERNALLY, NOT IN LIKE A

56:46DEFINED IN STATUTE ANYTHING,

56:50BUT LIKE WELL IT'S A

56:51MICROBUSINESS, IF IT'S FEWER

56:52THAN 25 EMPLOYEES.

56:54WELL, IT'S A... BUT THERE WANO

56:55CITY THAT I SPOKE WITH WAS LIKE

56:56THIS IS THE DEFINITION THIS IS

56:57RECEIVES THESE SERVICES.

56:57MOST WERE LIKE OUR SMALL

56:58BUSINESS TEAM WAS LIKE, IF A

56:59BUSINESS IS SMALLNOUGH TO CALL

57:01IN TO WANT TO SPEND TIME WORKING

57:02WITH US TO GET SOMETHING DONE,

57:04THEY'RE PROBABLY A BUSINESS

57:05THAT'S SMALL ENOUGH TO BE USING

57:06OUR SERVICES.

57:08BECAUSE LARGE ORGANIZATIONS JUST

57:10AREN'T CALLING THE SMALL

57:10BUSINESS TEAM FOR THEIR HELP.

57:13>> OKAY.

57:14THANK YOU FOR THAT.

57:15THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS,

57:16SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I

57:18HAVE.

57:18BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON

57:19THIS REPORT.

57:20>> THANK YOU.

57:22>> NEXT IS VICE PREDENT OSMAN.

57:24>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

57:29I'M NOT REALLY SURPRISED, AS

57:30BEING A VICE... A BIZ CHAIR,

57:37ALSO BEING IN BIZ EVER SINCE I

57:39STARTED WORKING I THE CITY.

57:45THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION THA

57:47HAPPENS BETWEEN THE STAFF AND

57:49ALSO THE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE

57:52VE DIFFICULT.

57:54IT'S NOT... IT'S NOT EASY

57:59NAVIGANG AROUND THAT.

58:01PEOPLE CALL 311, AND THEN THO

58:06COMMUNICATIONS NEVER GET TO THE

58:07RIGHT PERSON, AND WHEN THEY DO,

58:10ONE OF THE CHALLENGING PARTS

58:11THAT I SEE IS THAT IT'S NOT A

58:16SIMPLE PHONE CALL THATOU CAN

58:18GET AHOLD OF SOMEBODY.

58:22IT'S EITHER EMAIL, AND

58:24PERSONALLY, MY OFFICE HAS

58:26RECEIVED MONEY... COMMUNICATION,

58:27MANY EMAILS, MANY CALLS, WHERE

58:29PEOPLE WERE LIKE, OH, WE HAVE

58:30NOT HEARD FROM THIS DEPARTMENT,

58:33OR THIS INDIVIDUAL HAVE NOT

58:33TALKED TO US FOR WEEKS.

58:34WE'VE BEEN EMAILING BACK AND

58:36FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.

58:47AND IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING TO

58:48KIND OF FOR ME... THEN I COME IN

58:51AND I YOU KNOW EMAIL THE STAFF

58:52AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE OH WE'RE

58:53WAITING YOU TALK ABOUT THE OTHER

58:53THE TWO DEPARTMENTS NOT EVEN

58:55WOING TOGETHER, WE WERE IN THE

58:56BUILDING CODE TO GET THIS AS

58:58RIGHT TIL WE ISSUE IT.

59:00SO IT'S A BIGGER ISSUE.

59:02WHAT ARE SOME OF THE

59:03SUGGESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF

59:04YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OTHER

59:08THAN THE REPORT, WHAT OTHER WAYS

59:11CAN WE IMPROVE THAT

59:11COMMUNICATION?

59:12AND I FEEL LIKE THE CUSTOMER

59:14SERVICE PART OF IT IS REALLY NOT

59:15THERE.

59:21WHEN MY COMMUNITY BUSINESS

59:23OWNERS USUALLY ARE HAVING

59:24DIFFICULTIES, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T

59:24OPEN THEIR RESURANT FOR

59:25MONTHS, BECAUSE THE LACK OF

59:28COMMUNICATION, THINGS DO SLOW

59:30DOWN.

59:32AND THE SLOWDOWN IS BASED ON

59:36LACK OF COMMUNICATION.

59:37WHAT ARE SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS

59:39YOU HAVE TO IMPROVE THIS

59:41COMMUNICATION?

59:41AND IS IT... AND DO YOU NOTICE

59:44ALSO, WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?

59:47SIT BASE ON NOT ENOUGH STAFF?

59:49OR STAFF DOING A LOT OF TASKS

59:50INSTEAD OF JUST FOCUSING ON THE

59:53INDIVIDUAL AND THE OTHER SIDE OF

59:54THE PHONE OR OTR SIDE OF THE

59:56EMAIL?

59:56WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT

59:59YOU SEE ON MAKING THAT

1:00:03COMMUNICATION VERY, VERY

1:00:04DIFFICULT TO MOVE FORWARD?

1:00:05WHAT ARE SOME SUGGESTIONS YOU

1:00:06MIGHT HAVE IMPROVING THEBUSINESR

1:00:10CPED OR ANYONE WHO IMPROVES THAT

1:00:12PROCESS?

1:00:15>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL

1:00:15MEMBER OSMAN, I DON'T NT TO

1:00:17SPEAK ON DAY-TO-DAY WORK THAT

1:00:19THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING.

1:00:20I N'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.

1:00:21I REALLY SPOKEITH HIM IN THE

1:00:23CAPACITY OF HOW DOES YOUR

1:00:23DEPARTMENT FIT INTO THIS

1:00:25PROCESS.

1:00:27I WILL SAY, AS FAR AS, AGAIN,

1:00:28NOT MYUGGESTIONS, BUT WHAT'S

1:00:29BEEN SEEN OUT THERE, THE ONLINE

1:00:32PORTAL SYSTEM, AGAIN, SHOWS THE

1:00:33INDIVIDUAL, THEY DON'T NEED TO

1:00:34CONTACT YOUR OFFICE.

1:00:35THEY COULD SEE... YOU KNOW, GO

1:00:36INTO THE SYSTEM AND BE LIKE OH,

1:00:37MINE IS STUCK IN BUILDING CODES.

1:00:39AND THEY MIGHT REALIZE THAT IT'S

1:00:41STUCK IN BLDING CODES NOT

1:00:42BECAUSE OF BUILDING CODE STAFF,

1:00:45BUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TY

1:00:46THOUGHT THEIR CONTRACTOR, THE

1:00:47PLUMBER SUBMITTED SOME

1:00:49PERMITTING REFORM, OR THEY

1:00:50THGHT THEY DID.

1:00:51AND THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY GO

1:00:52THROUGH BUT THEY WOULD BE ABLE

1:00:53TO SEE THAT THEMSELVES IN REAL

1:00:54ME.

1:00:56AND THEN I ALSO THINK THE

1:00:57CONCEPT OF THE BUSINESS

1:00:59CONCIERGE, OUR SMALL BUSINESS

1:01:00TEAM WORKS WITH MANY BUSINESSES,

1:01:01BUT AS THEY SAID, NOT EVERYONE

1:01:03KNOWS THAT THEY EXIST, THAT

1:01:05THEIR SERVICES ARE THERE, AND

1:01:07THE IDEA OF EXPANDING THAT TEAM,

1:01:12THEIR SCOPE, OR HOW MANY FTES

1:01:13THEY HAVE, MORE TO HAVE THAT

1:01:20ONSTOP.

1:01:20SO WHEN ANY BUSINESS PERSON IN

1:01:22THE CITY HAS A QUESTION, FROM

1:01:25THE START OF THEIR PROCESS

1:01:26THROUGH I'M STUCK IN

1:01:28INSPECTIONS, OR I'M STUCK IN THE

1:01:29LICENSING PROCESS, THEY COULD

1:01:30HAVE THAT ONE PERSON TO CONTACT.

1:01:33I THINK IT IS THE GOAL OF THE

1:01:35SMALL BUSINESS TEAM, BUT AS THEY

1:01:37SAID, NOT EVERYONE KNOWS THEIR

1:01:39SERVICES, NOT EVERYONE KNOWS

1:01:40THAT THEY EXIST.AND SO MORE, YO,

1:01:42COMMUNICATION ON THEIR EXISTENCE

1:01:44EVEN MIGHT HELP THAT OTHER

1:01:45COMMUNICATION ISSUE.

1:01:48AS FAR AS BROADER COMMUNICATION,

1:01:51I GOT TO SAY THAT MOST OTHER

1:01:52CITIES TALKED ABOUT THAT AS A

1:01:53CHALLENGE AS WEL

1:01:54AND AGAIN, THEY REALLY WERE

1:01:56MEETING THOSE NEEDS THROUGH THAT

1:01:57ONLINE PORTAL SYSTEAND THROUGH

1:02:00SOME SORT OF INCREASED

1:02:02ASSISTANCE FOR PEOPLE TO

1:02:02NAVIGATE THE PROSS.

1:02:04>> THANK YOU.

1:02:05YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF

1:02:08WORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO OR

1:02:12FIGURE OUT WAY TO IMPROVE THIS.

1:02:14BECAUSE THIS IS NOT JUST THE

1:02:18SLOWING DOWN BUSINESSES IN THE

1:02:20CITY, DOING BUSINESS WITH THE

1:02:22CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, BUT ALSO

1:02:23IT'S JUST NO OTHER, YOU KNOW, I

1:02:28GUESS AGENCIES OR... THAT DOES

1:02:34THIS, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

1:02:36AND RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT

1:02:37TRACTOR-TRAILER HABIT OF SAYING,

1:02:40HEY, COMMUNICATE EMAIL M I'LL

1:02:41REACH OUT TO YOU.

1:02:42AND WHAT I DO I REACH OUT TO THE

1:02:43DIRECTORS LIKE HEY WHAT IS THE

1:02:43STATUS OF THIS I DO.

1:02:46WELCOME THE IDEA OF HAVING A

1:02:48PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND

1:02:49JUST PUT A PUT A NUMBER AND G

1:02:50A STATUS OF THEIR PROCESS, WHERE

1:02:51THAT PROCESS IS HEADING TO.

1:02:53THAT KIND OF GIVES AAY FOR THE

1:02:56BUNESSES TO FEEL LIKE WHERE

1:02:59THINGS ARE, BUT IT'S

1:03:00UNACCEPTABLE FOR BUSINESSES IN

1:03:03OUR CITY TO WAIT ONE PERSON TO

1:03:06REOND IN FOUR MONTHS OR SO ON.

1:03:09SO THAT IS THAT IS VERY

1:03:11CHALLENGING.

1:03:12AND I'M HOPING THAT LEADERSHIP

1:03:16CAN MEET AND MAYBE COME UP WITH

1:03:18A DIFFERENT PLAN WHEN IT COMES

1:03:21TO COMMUNICATION.

1:03:21ONCE WE IMPROVE THAT

1:03:23COMMICATION, THEN I THINK THE

1:03:25SLOW PROCESS WILL KIND OF, YOU

1:03:27KNOW, GET BETTER.

1:03:29SO THAT'S MY COMMENT.

1:03:29THANK YOU.

1:03:30>> THANK YOU.

1:03:31AND LASTLY WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER

1:03:34VETAW.

1:03:34>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.

1:03:36JUST A COUPLE QUICK THINGS.

1:03:37THE FIRST ONE IS... DO YOU HAVE

1:03:40AN IDEA OF WN PMI IS SUPPOSED

1:03:41TO BE DONE AND ACTUALLY

1:03:44PRESENTING SOME RECOMMENDATNS

1:03:45OR IDEAS?

1:03:46>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL

1:03:51MEMBER VETAW, I LAST SPOKE TO

1:03:52THEM AT THE END OF AUGUST

1:03:54I'LL BE HONEST, I FINISHED THIS

1:03:54REPORT THE FIRST WEEK OF

1:03:55SEPTEMBER.

1:03:55WHEN I SPOKE TO THEM AT THAT

1:03:57POINT, I KNOW THAT THEY WERE

1:03:58HOPINGO DO SOME OF THIS

1:03:59IMPLEMENTATION WORK IN THIS FALL

1:04:01QUARTER.

1:04:04I DON'T HAVE A DEADLINE FOR WHEN

1:04:05THEY'RE GOING TO BE PSENTING

1:04:07RECOMMENDATIONS.

1:04:08>> OKAY.

1:04:08I CAN CHECK IN.

1:04:08DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?

1:04:10>> WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, IT

1:04:13MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE FOR THE

1:04:13CHAIR OF BIZ AND YOURSELF TO

1:04:17EVEN SEE IF THERE'S A PLANNED

1:04:18MOMENT FOR A PRESENTATN ON

1:04:19THIS.

1:04:19I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT

1:04:22THAT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A

1:04:23REALLY GOOD IDEA TO HAVE IT

1:04:25BEFORE THE BODY.

1:04:26>> OKAY.

1:04:28AH.

1:04:28AND THEN THE LAST THING...

1:04:30COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ WAS

1:04:31INTERESTED IN KNOWING IF YOU HAD

1:04:34WORKED WITH THE CULTURAL

1:04:36COIDORS.

1:04:36I KNOW THE STAFF DIRECTIVE WAS

1:04:41DEFINITELY DEVELOPED OUT OF LOTS

1:04:42OF CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS ON

1:04:44OUR CULTURAL CORRIDORS.

1:04:46THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, OUT OF

1:04:47CONVERSATIONS WITH ME AND MYSTAL

1:04:51BUSINESSES THAT EXIST IN OUR

1:04:52CULTURAL CORRIDORS, BUT ALSO

1:04:54PEOPLE WHO WANT TO START

1:04:56BUSINESSES IN MINNPOLIS, AND

1:04:58JUST WONDERING IF YOU TALK TO

1:05:01ANYONE ON THE CULTURAL

1:05:03CORRIDORS.

1:05:03>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL

1:05:05MEMBER VETAW, I DID NOT.

1:05:08I SPOKE WITH THOSE FIVE BUSINESS

1:05:09ORGANIZATIONS THAT I LISTED

1:05:10THROUGUT THE REPORT AND

1:05:11PRESENTATION.

1:05:11I DID NOT SPEAK TO INDIVIDUAL

1:05:12BUSINESS OWNERS.

1:05:14I JUST DID NOT HAVE THE CAPACI

1:05:16IN THE SCO.

1:05:17>> OKAY.

1:05:18THANK YOU.

1:05:18AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

1:05:20YOU CERTAINLY ANSWERED QUESTIONS

1:05:23THAT WAS IN THE STAFF DIRECTIVE.

1:05:24SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

1:05:27AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, JUST

1:05:29AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS WORKWAS..S

1:05:33CREATED OUT OF CONVERSATIONS

1:05:34WITH FOLKS IN MULTIPLE CULTURAL

1:05:38CORRIDORS, AND THIS WAS THE

1:05:38FIRST PLACE FOR THAT, WAS TOSIMF

1:05:42DIRECTIVE WITH QUESTIONS THAT

1:05:43THEY HAD, D YOU'VE ANSWERED

1:05:45SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS, AND TO

1:05:47FIGURE OUT POLICY PLANS, PROGRAM

1:05:50PLANS, WHATEVER MOVING FORWARD,

1:05:53THAT HOPEFULLY BENEFITS THOSE

1:05:55FOLKS.

1:05:55SO THANK YOU.

1:05:56>> THANK YOU.

1:05:57>> THANK YOU.

1:06:00SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I

1:06:03WILL SAY THANK YOU TO MISS JUKE

1:06:06FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND ASK

1:06:10THE CLERK RECEIVE AND FILE

1:06:11THAT PRESENTATION.

1:06:17NOW WE WILL GO TO OUR CONSENT

1:06:23ENDA.

1:06:23THE FIRST ITEM IS SETTING A

1:06:24PUBLIC HEARING FOR OCTOBER

1:06:2427th 2026 TO CONSIDER AN

1:06:25ORDINANCE REGARDING OUR

1:06:26GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE.

1:06:27DO COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

1:06:28OR DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT

1:06:29AGENDA?

1:06:33COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY.

1:06:33>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY,

1:06:37JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME BRIEF

1:06:39COMMENTS ON THIS.SO MANY OF MY O

1:06:42WERE HERE YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS

1:06:44O RECALLED THAT THE GOVERNMENT

1:06:46STRUCTURE IMPLEMENTED

1:06:46IMPLEMENTATION ORDINANCE WAS

1:06:47ADOPTED IN 2022, AND WE HAD

1:06:51ROBUST DEBATE AT THAT TIME,

1:06:52WHERE I KNOW A NUMBER OF

1:06:54COLLEAGUES, INCLUDING MYSELF,

1:06:55EMPHASIZED THE NEED TO LOOK AT

1:06:58HOW WE'RE STREAMLINING

1:07:01ACCOUNTABILITY WITHIN CITY

1:07:02GOVERNMENT, AS WE WERE BUILDING

1:07:04OUT THESE NEW STRUCTURES,

1:07:08ESSENTIALLY, TOO, WITHIN OUR

1:07:09GOVERNMENT.

1:07:09AND WANTED TO FIGURE OUT HOW

1:07:10WHE WE WERE DOING THAT, OF

1:07:13CREATING NEW BUREAUCRACY, IN A

1:07:15WAY THAT WOULD NOT ALSO

1:07:17UNDERMINE THAT ACCOUNTABILITY.

1:07:18AND A LOT OF TSE CONVERSATIONS

1:07:21PARTICULARLY CENTERED AROUND THE

1:07:22CREATION OF THE OFFICE OF

1:07:23COMMUNITY SAFETY AND MAKING SURE

1:07:25THAT WITH THIS CREATION, THAT IT

1:07:27WI BE STRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT

1:07:28WOULD PROMOTE ACCOUNTABILITY AND

1:07:31TRANSPENCY, AND NOT TO CREATE

1:07:32MORE DIFFUSION OF ENGAGEMENT

1:07:36BETWEEN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE

1:07:38OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY AND

1:07:40MPD, AND MAKING SURE IT ACTUALLY

1:07:43FELL IN LINE WITH THE INTENT OF

1:07:45QUESTION ONE, ESSENTIALLY, OF

1:07:46CREATING A MORE STREAMLINED

1:07:48MANAGERIAL SYSTEM.

1:07:55BUT WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS

1:07:56ORDINANCE FORWARD IN 2022, WE

1:07:57ALSO HEARD THAT IT WAS FRAMED AS

1:07:58A TRY BEFORE YOU BUY IT LIKE

1:07:58THIS WAS OUR PILOT.

1:08:01MEANING THAT AFTER A FEW YEARS

1:08:03OF EXPERIENCING IT IN IT

1:08:05PROPOSED ITERATION, COUNCIL AND

1:08:09THE PUBLIC COULD THEN LOOK BACK

1:08:10AT IT AND USE NOW YEARS OF DATA

1:08:15TO TRULY MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

1:08:16AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS

1:08:16ORDINANCE AIMS TO DO, TO MAKE

1:08:18SURE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING

1:08:19MEANINGFUL OUTCOMES FOR OUR

1:08:20RESIDENTS.

1:08:20SO WITH THAT, IT ALSO LOOKS AT

1:08:23THEN SPECIFIC AREAS THAT WE HAVE

1:08:26NOT SEEN THAT DEMONSTRATED

1:08:30MEASURABLE SUCCESS, PARTICULARLY

1:08:31IN MEETING CITY GOALS THAT

1:08:33BENEFIT THE PUBLIC.

1:08:34SPECIFICALLY, THERE HAS BEEN

1:08:35LOTS O DEBATE ABOUT, AGAIN, THE

1:08:37OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY, ITS

1:08:39FUTURE ON THIS COUNCIL.

1:08:40I THINK MANY OF US WERE EXCITED

1:08:42ABOUT ITS INITIAL CREATION.

1:08:43BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SEE

1:08:46OVER THE THREE YEARS OF ITS

1:08:48EXISTENCE, AGAIN, THAT

1:08:49MEASURABLE BENEFIT TO THE

1:08:51PUBLIC.

1:08:51AND WHILE WE KNOTHAT WE

1:08:53ABSOLUTELY NEED TO CONTINUE

1:08:55DOUBLING DOWN ON OUR CITY'S

1:08:57EFFORTS TO EXPAND OUR PROGRAMS,

1:09:03THAT GOAL AND DRIVE SAFETY

1:09:04OUTCOMES THAT GOES BEYOND

1:09:06POLICING, WE KNOW A BULK OF THAT

1:09:07WORK IS BEING CHAMPIONED IN THE

1:09:10NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT

1:09:11AND NOT NECESSARILY THE OFFICE

1:09:12OF COMMUNITY SAFETY ITSELF.

1:09:14WE ALSO HAVE SEEN, AGAIN, A

1:09:16MULTITUDE OF JUST CHALLENGE

1:09:18WITHIN THE OCS OFFICE IN TERMS

1:09:22OFOW HAS IT BEEN AN OVERSIGHT

1:09:23HAWK IN HELPING MPD STAY WITHIN

1:09:26ITS BUDG AND AVOID BUDGET

1:09:28MISMANAGEMENT.

1:09:28WE'VE HAD TO CONTEND WITH

1:09:29CHALLENGES AROUND VENDORS AND

1:09:30THE CK OF CONTRACT OVERSIGHT.

1:09:33WE'VE ALSO HAD TO AS A BODY

1:09:37CONTEND WITH ISSUES AROUND CRIME

1:09:39PREVENTION AND HOW WE COULD

1:09:42PROMOTE INCREASE CASE CLEARANCE

1:09:45OUTCOMES, SO THAT RESIDENTS ARE

1:09:47GETTIN JUSTICE WHEN THEY'RE

1:09:48EXPERIENCING HARMFUL INCIDENTS.

1:09:49AND WE JUST HAVE NOT SEEN THAT

1:09:52COME IO FRUITION WITH THE

1:09:53CREATION OF THIS OFFICE.

1:09:55SO IT DOES PROPOSE ELIMINATING

1:09:58THAT, BUT ALSO SHIFTING THOSE

1:10:00RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THE

1:10:02NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT,

1:10:02WHICH HAS BEEN THE LEADING FORCE

1:10:03IN SOME OF THIS WORK.

1:10:05THE ORDINANCE ALSO PROPOSES THE

1:10:07ELIMINATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF

1:10:09RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSION AND

1:10:11BELONGING, REIB, WHICH IANT TO

1:10:14NAME, THIS IS NOT A MAGA EFFORT,

1:10:17THERE IS ALSO A PROPOSAL TO

1:10:19REALIGN THIS WORK WITH THE

1:10:21NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY SAFETY...

1:10:23SORRY... NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY

1:10:24RELATIONS DEPARTMENT THAT HAS

1:10:25DEMONSTRATED A STRONG RECORD OF

1:10:27SOUND MANAGEMENT, FISCAL

1:10:28OVERSIGHT, HAS BEEN ABLE TO

1:10:31PRESERVE STRONG COMMUNITY

1:10:33RELATIONSHIPS, AND HAS RICH

1:10:35ENTREPRISE KNOWLEDGE, AND HAS

1:10:36BEEN DOING THAT WORK EFFECTIVELY

1:10:37IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

1:10:38IT ALSO DOES LOOK AT ELIMINATING

1:10:40THE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT AND

1:10:42INNOVATION DIVISION AS WELL.

1:10:43BUT AGAIN, I ALSO WANT TO NAME

1:10:45THAT THIS IS A STARTING PLACE

1:10:47FOR DISCUSSIONS.

1:10:48IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE MAYOR'S

1:10:51PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2027, THEYAN

1:10:53REORGANIZE OUR GOVERNMENT

1:10:54STRUCTURE IN A WAY THAT DOES

1:10:55PROMOTE MORE EFFICIENCY, WHILE

1:10:57ALSO FOR US IS BALANCING THE

1:10:59GOALS OF THAT EFFICIENCY NEEDS

1:11:00TO COME WITH STRONGER OUTCOMES

1:11:01FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND BETTER

1:11:03SERVICES, AND THIS IS WHAT THIS

1:11:05LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AIMS TO DO.

1:11:08ALSO, I DO WANT TO NAME, WHILE

1:11:09THE BUDGET PROCESS PROPOSED FOR

1:11:12GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE ON THE

1:11:14MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION SIDE CAME

1:11:15WITH BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS,

1:11:16THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT.

1:11:18BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THE WORK OF

1:11:19DOING BUDGET MARKUPS SHOULD STAY

1:11:23WITHIN THAT TIMELINE.

1:11:24SO FOR ANY BUDGET IMPLICATIONS

1:11:26THAT MIGHT BE TIED TO THIS

1:11:28ORDINANCE, WE WOULD TAKE THAT UP

1:11:30AT THE BUDGET MARKUP

1:11:32DELIBERATIONS THAT'S HAPPENING

1:11:34IN THE COMINGEEKS AND MONTHS.

1:11:35AND THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE FOR

1:11:38AS A BODY TO TALK ABOUT

1:11:40PROPOSALS FOR ANY BUDGETARY

1:11:42IMPACTS.

1:11:42BUT THAT SAID, THIS IS REALLY

1:11:44THE STARTING CONVERSATION TO

1:11:46REALLY LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BETTER

1:11:47ALIGN OUROVERNMENT IN A WAY

1:11:48THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF OUR

1:11:50RESIDENTS, AND GIVES US THAT

1:11:51SPACE TO DO THAT, AS OPPOSED TO

1:11:53WAITING TO THE CHARTER

1:11:56COMMISSION TO ESSENTIALLY HAVE

1:11:58TO TAKE INITIATION ON THAT

1:11:59PROCESS.

1:11:59THIS ALLOWS US TO DO THAT

1:12:02PROACTIVELY, AND THEN ALSO BEING

1:12:02FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM

1:12:03AS THEY START THEIR

1:12:05DELIBERATIONS NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

1:12:07SO I AT LEAST WANT TO GIVE THAT

1:12:09CONTEXT.

1:12:10>> THANK YOU, MEMBERS.

1:12:11IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

1:12:13COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW.

1:12:15>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.

1:12:16YES, I HAVE A QUESTN FOR

1:12:17COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY.

1:12:18COULD YOU JUST REPEAT THE

1:12:19TIMELINE AGA FOR THIS PLEASE?

1:12:22>> THE TIMELINE FOR THIS, SO

1:12:25WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US TODAY IS

1:12:26ESSENTIALLY SETTING THE PUBLIC

1:12:29HEARING FOR OCTOBER 27th FOR

1:12:30THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.

1:12:31SO THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD HAVE THE

1:12:33PUBLIC HEARING, AS YOUNOW,

1:12:34THEN HAVE ANY DELIBERATION, TAKE

1:12:35UP ANY AMENDMENTS OR CHANGESND

1:12:38THEN DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF

1:12:42THAT, IT WILL BE FROM MY

1:12:48UNDERSTANDING IN COLLABORATION

1:12:48WITH COUNCIL LEADERSHIP AND

1:12:51BUDGET CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER

1:12:56CHUGHTAI, IT WOULD THEN BE

1:12:58EITHER POSTPONED, IF IT'S

1:12:59PASSED, AT ANOTHERIME, AT

1:13:02ANOTHER DATE.

1:13:02BUT SO FAR, JUST THE PUBLICHEAR.

1:13:04>> OKAY.

1:13:05SO JUST THE PUBLIC HEARING.

1:13:06AND WHAT IS THE... OY, SO CAN

1:13:09YOU TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT THE

1:13:10BUDGET CHAIR HAS TO DO WITH

1:13:12THIS?

1:13:12ARE YOU SAYING LIKE IF THIS

1:13:15PASSES, THEN THAT MONEY IS FREED

1:13:17UP FOR US TO DO... LIKE, CAN YOU

1:13:19EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE?

1:13:21>> YEAH.

1:13:23AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER

1:13:24CHUGHTAI WANTS TO GET IN QUEUE,

1:13:26BUT THIS WAS MORE... SO BECAUSE

1:13:29WE KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION AGAIN

1:13:29HAD PROPOSALS THAT WERE TIED TO

1:13:30THE BUDGET, SO THAT IS WHY W

1:13:34NAMED LIKE THERE MIGHT BE SOME

1:13:35SPACE DURING BUDGET MARKUP,

1:13:37WHERE THERE MIGHT BE DISCUSSION

1:13:39ON THIS ORDINANCE THEN.

1:13:42IS THAT CORRECT, COUNCIL MEMBER

1:13:44CHUGAI?

1:13:48OR CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

1:13:49GO AHEAD.

1:13:50>> YEAH, SORRY, THANK YOU, MADAM

1:13:52CHAIR.

1:13:54YEAH, JUST TO ADDRESS COUNCIL

1:13:56MEMBER VETAW'S QUESTION, I THINK

1:13:58THE GOAL HERE WOULD BE TO HAVE

1:13:59THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE WORK

1:14:00DONE HERE IN COMMITTEE OF THE

1:14:01WHOLE AND BE READY TO GO FOR

1:14:04WHEN THE BUDGET WORK IS

1:14:05COMPLETED IN THE BUDGET

1:14:07COMMITTEE, SO THAT BOTH ACTIONS

1:14:09CAN BE SENT TO THE MAYOR FOR HIS

1:14:11CONSIDERATION AT THE SAME TIME,

1:14:12D THAT WE LEAVE OURSELVES

1:14:14ENOUGH ROOM AND FLEXIBILITY TO

1:14:16BE ABLE TO HAVE THE GOVERNMENT

1:14:18STRUCTURE WORK COMPLETED AND

1:14:20OPPORTUNITIES FOR ANY MINOR

1:14:22CHANGES TO TAKE PLACE, DEPENDING

1:14:23ON THE OUTCOME OF MARKUP.

1:14:31>> IS THAT ALL, COUNCIL MEMBER

1:14:33VETAW?

1:14:33>>ES.

1:14:34>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

1:14:35NEXT IN QUEUE, COULD YOU,

1:14:37COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY, JUST LET

1:14:39ME KNOW IF I HAVE THIS RIGHT?

1:14:41NEXT WEEK... NEXT CYCLE, TOBER

1:14:4227th PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAVE

1:14:45DISCUSSIONS THAT'S MARKUP, AND

1:14:46THEN THE VOTE IS FOR A LATER

1:14:48DATE?

1:14:48MARKUP ON THIS ORDINANCE.

1:14:50>> THANK YOU.

1:14:51I WAS LIKE...

1:14:53>> MARKUP IS COMING, BUT NOT

1:14:55NEXT CYCLE. .

1:14:56>> LIKE THE STANDARD LEGISLATIVE

1:14:57PROCESS, EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO

1:14:58BRING AMENDMENTS OR

1:14:58DELIBERATIONS AT THE PUBLIC

1:14:59HEARING.

1:15:00>> GOT IT.

1:15:00BUT JUST NOT A FINAL VOTE AND

1:15:03IT'S NOT GOING TO THAT COUNCIL

1:15:03MEETING.

1:15:04>> NO.

1:15:05>> OKAY.

1:15:06PERFECT.

1:15:06THAT'S HELPFUL FOR

1:15:07CLARIFICATIO

1:15:08YEAH, I WILL JUST MAKE SOME

1:15:10COMMENTS.

1:15:11LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A

1:15:12DISCUSSION WITH MY COLLEAGUES

1:15:13ABOUT THIS.

1:15:14THIS IS OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE

1:15:16BIEST THINGS THAT WE'RE TAKING

1:15:18ON ALONGSIDE THE BUDGET IN TERMS

1:15:20OF RESTRUCTURING OUR GOVERNMENT

1:15:21AND THE WAY THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS

1:15:23WILL WORK, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO

1:15:26TALKING TO COLLEAGUES ABOUT IT.

1:15:28I'M INTERESTED IN TALKING TO

1:15:31ANYONE THAT HAS IDEAS OR

1:15:33THOUGHTS.

1:15:33SAME GOES FOR THE BUDGET

1:15:36CONVERSATION.

1:15:36I THINK THAIT'S GOING TO TAKE

1:15:39A LOT OF WORK FROM THIS BODY TO

1:15:41BE ABLE TO GET THIS SET

1:15:44ALONGSIDE THE CITY BUDGET AT THE

1:15:46SAME TIME.

1:15:46I DON'T THINK I'VE SAT THROUGH A

1:15:48CITY BUDGET WHERE WE'VE HAD TO

1:15:52DO TWO PARALLEL ACTIONS OF SUCH

1:15:55ENORMITY AND IMPACT BEFORE.

1:15:57SO, LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT

1:15:58WORK, AND WILL B REACHING OUT

1:16:01TO YOU, COUNCIL MEMR WONSLEY,

1:16:03TO JUST CHAT MORE OFFLINE, AND

1:16:05SAME WITH YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE.

1:16:09VICE CHAIR CHUGHTAI, I HAVE YOU

1:16:10IN QUEUE.

1:16:11>> I'M ALL GOOD.

1:16:12THANK YOU.

1:16:13>> OKAY.

1:16:14GREAT.

1:16:15MEMBERS, IS THERE ANY FURTHER

1:16:15DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM?

1:16:19COUNCIL MEMBER SHAFFER.

1:16:20>> YEAH.

1:16:20THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS

1:16:22FORWARD, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO

1:16:23THE CONTINUED DIALOG AROU

1:16:24THESE IMPORTANT DECISIONS.

1:16:25I DO THINK THAT IT'S REALLY

1:16:30IMPORTANT THAT THIS TIME THAT WE

1:16:31TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE

1:16:32RESIDENTS OF MINNEAPIS TO

1:16:33REALLY DEMONSTRATE A

1:16:35COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT ABOUT

1:16:36TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER ON OUR

1:16:38DIFFERENCES OF OPINION, SO THAT

1:16:40WE DO NOT END UP WITH A VETO AND

1:16:43AN UPHELD VETO.

1:16:45THAT'S A CHOICE AT WE WILL

1:16:47MAKE AS A COUNCIL.

1:16:48AND I HOPE THAT WE ARE WILLING

1:16:53TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND TRY

1:16:55TO DIALOG AND COME FORWARD WITH

1:16:58SOMETHING THAT REDUCES THE LEVY,

1:16:59MAKES STRONG DECISIONS, AND

1:17:02DOESN'T HARM OUR CORE CITY

1:17:04SERVICES.

1:17:05SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THISWN

1:17:09DEMONSTRATE SOMETHING UNUSUAL.

1:17:16ANKS.

1:17:19>> SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP VETO, I

1:17:23WANTED TO SEE, SINCE ITS TIED

1:17:25TO THIS ITEM, BECAUSE IT COULD

1:17:30BE VETO-ABLE... COUNCIL

1:17:31MEMBER... VICE CHAIR CHUGHTAI, I

1:17:33DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE

1:17:34SPOT, BUT DO YOU KNOW IF WE'RE

1:17:36GOING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE CI

1:17:38ATTORNEYS ON WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

1:17:39IF THE CITY BUDGET WERE TO BE

1:17:41VETOED BY THE MOR AND THEN

1:17:42UPHELD?

1:17:45OR I SEE ATTORNEY ABELSON.

1:17:47>> CHAIR, YES, I THINK WE WERE

1:17:49ASKED AT THE LAST BUDGET MEETING

1:17:50TO PREPARE A MEMO ON IT.

1:17:51WE'LL PREPARE A MEMO AND GET IT

1:17:53TO YOU RELATIVELY SHOLY.

1:17:54THIS WAS WORK THAT WE DID WE D

1:17:58TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN THE BUDGET

1:18:00WAS VETOED AND NOT OVERRIDDEN.

1:18:01SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE

1:18:03SOMETHING IN RELATIVELY SHORT

1:18:04ORDER.

1:18:04>> OKAY.

1:18:05GREAT.

1:18:05AND I'LL JUST ADD THE COMMENT, A

1:18:09VETO IS NOT A CHOICE OF THIS

1:18:11BODY.

1:18:11THAT'S THE CHOICE OF THE MAYOR.

1:18:13AND I HOPE THAT THAT'S ONE THAT

1:18:14WILL NOT HAPPEN GIVEN THE

1:18:15FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE

1:18:18CITY BUDGET.

1:18:19AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPINWE

1:18:20CAN IRON OUT AND WORK TOGETHER

1:18:21ON OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

1:18:23SOUNDS LIKE OTHERS WANT DO

1:18:24THAT TOO.

1:18:26SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I

1:18:31WILL MOVE THISTEM FOR

1:18:34APPROVAL.

1:18:35ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY A.

1:18:38[ AYES RESPOND ]

1:18:39ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

1:18:41THAT MOTION CARRIES, AND WE WILL

1:18:45SET THAT PUBLIC HEARING.

1:18:45NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO THE

1:18:46DISCUSSION ITEM.

1:18:47THIS IS THE WALK-ON ITEM THAT I

1:18:50MENTIONED EARLIER.

1:18:50IT'S AN ADDITIONAL GIFT

1:18:51ACCEPTANCE FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS

1:18:53POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR... OH,

1:18:58COUNCIL MEMBER CVEZ.

1:18:59>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

1:19:02IIGHT NEED ME HELP FROM THE

1:19:03ATTORNEYS AND CLERKS, BUT I WAS

1:19:04WONDERING IF I COULD OFFER A

1:19:04COMMENT WITHOUT YOUR OBJECTION,

1:19:05OR WITHOUT THIS BODY'S

1:19:07OBJECTION, THERE WAS FOLKS IN

1:19:08THE CHAMBERS HERE TODAY THAT I

1:19:10DID NOT WANT TO CONTINUE THIS

1:19:11MEETING WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING.

1:19:15>> YEAH, GO... UNDER THE

1:19:19DISCRETION OF T CHAIR, YES, GO

1:19:21AHEAD.

1:19:22>> OKAY, I KNOW WE WERE JOINED

1:19:24BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, THEY

1:19:26CAME TO THE CHAMBERS TODAY.

1:19:28I SPOKE TO THEM.

1:19:29THEY WANTED TO TESTIFY.

1:19:30I EXPLAINED THE PROCESS OF NOT

1:19:30BEING ABLE TO TESTIFY BECAUSE WE

1:19:31DO HAVE TO GIVE PUBLIC NOTICE.

1:19:33BUT I DID WANT TO AT LEAST

1:19:35ACKNOWLEDGE THEM SINCE THEY DID

1:19:36COME TO THESE CHAMBERS REGARDING

1:19:37AN ITEM THAT WAS REPORTED ON IN

1:19:39THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.

1:19:40AND WHILE THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO

1:19:42TESTIFY TODAY, I DID WANT TO

1:19:44THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE.

1:19:45THEY ARE MANY OF OUR

1:19:50LATINO/LATINA LEADERS IN THE

1:19:51COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY

1:19:51ADVOCATES WHO WERE ASKING US TO

1:19:54REJECT A LIQUOR LICENSE FROM LOS

1:19:56ANDES.

1:19:56AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS

1:19:57IMPORTANT TO AT LEAS

1:19:58ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY WERE HERE

1:19:59TODAY, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MENTION

1:20:01THEM, AND THEY WERE HOPING TO

1:20:02TESTIFY.

1:20:02BUT I DID HAVE TO EXPLAIN HOW

1:20:03THE PROCESS WORKS AND THAT THEY

1:20:05WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

1:20:06ANK YOU, CHAIR.

1:20:08>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

1:20:10ALL RIG.

1:20:11WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSSION.

1:20:13I PUT THIS ITEM AT THEOP OF

1:20:15OUR DISCUSSION AGENDA.

1:20:16THISS THE WALK-ON ITEM I

1:20:19MENTIONED EARLIER.

1:20:20IT'S THE ADDITIONAL GIFT

1:20:22ACCEPTANCE FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS

1:20:23POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE POLICE

1:20:25CHIEF CONFERENCES HAPPENING AT

1:20:27THE END OF OCTOBER.

1:20:29I WILL ASK COMMANDER BROWN TO

1:20:30PLEASE COME AND GIVE ME DETAIL

1:20:32TO THIS ITEM.

1:20:38>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, VICE

1:20:41CHAIR, VICE PRESIDENT, AND

1:20:42COUNCIL.

1:20:44AND SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM... I

1:20:48AM COMMANDER CHRIS BROWN.

1:20:51I RUN THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AND

1:20:53FINANC FOR MPD.

1:20:54SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WAS...

1:20:59IT'S KIND OF A PART TWO FROM THE

1:21:00ORIGINAL, WHICH IS A GIFT

1:21:03ACCEPTANCE FOR MEMBERS OF THE

1:21:05MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO

1:21:06ATTEND THE INTERNATIONAL

1:21:07ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICE.

1:21:10WE DO HAVE AN OFFICER WHO'S

1:21:11GOING TO BE RECEIVING AN AWARD

1:21:15FOR... WELL, HOPEFULLY, HE'S ONE

1:21:17OF THE NOMINEES FOR THE AWARD,

1:21:19FOR THE INTERNATIONAL

1:21:21ASSOCIATION POLICE OFFICER OF

1:21:23THE YEAR.

1:21:23AND SO THE ORIGINAL GIFT WAS FOR

1:21:28$16,000, AND THERE WERE SOME

1:21:30COUNCIL MEMBERS I APPRECIATE HAD

1:21:32GIVEN A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE

1:21:33SEEK THE ADDITIONAL COST TO

1:21:34COVER THE ENTIRE COST, AND SOME

1:21:36VERY GENEROUS DONORS DID EXACTLY

1:21:39THAT.

1:21:40SO THANK YOU TO THEM.

1:21:41AND THANK YOU FOR THE

1:21:43RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COUNCIL.

1:21:45>> THANK YOU, COMMANDER BROWN.

1:21:47I'LL ASK MEMBERS IF THEY WOULD

1:21:47LIKE TO GET INTO QUEUE ON THIS

1:21:50ITEM.

1:21:50I PUT MYSELF IN QUEUE.

1:21:54YEAH, I JUST APPRECIATE THE

1:21:55MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT

1:21:57ASNG FOR ADDITNAL GIFT

1:21:58MONEY.

1:21:59SO WE DIDN'T CONTRIBUTE TO

1:22:02FURTHER OVERSPENDING THE BUDGET.

1:22:03I THINK IT MADE A LOT OF SENSE

1:22:05IN OUR LAST RESOLUTION OUT OF

1:22:07COUNCIL TO ASK FOR THAT.

1:22:09AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT WAS

1:22:11COMPLETELY POSSIBLE, AND GLAD

1:22:13THAT WORK HAPPENED.

1:22:14AND SO I WILL MOVE THIS ITEM FOR

1:22:16APPROVAL AND ASK FOR A SECOND.

1:22:19>> SECOND.

1:22:20>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE.

1:22:23>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

1:22:24I JUST WANTED TO THANK MPD AND

1:22:26THANK COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ FOR

1:22:27E DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS.

1:22:29YOU BROUGHT A SPIRIT OF PROBLEM

1:22:31SOLVING TO THIS, AND I THINK IT

1:22:33LED TO AN EVEN BETTER OUTCOME.

1:22:35SO, YOUNOW, THE OBJECTION

1:22:38PREVIOUSLY WASN'T TO CELEBRATING

1:22:39THE WORK OF LIEUTENANT KELLY.

1:22:43IT WAS RECOGNIZING THE FISCAL

1:22:45POSITION THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS

1:22:48IN, AND THIS HAS TOTALLY

1:22:50MITIGATED THAT.

1:22:50SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPPORT

1:22:54THIS.

1:22:56>> SEEING NO FURTHER

1:22:58DISCUSSIONS, AND THE MOTION FOR

1:22:59APPROVAL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY

1:23:01AYE.

1:23:02[ AYES RESPOND ]

1:23:02ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

1:23:04THAT MOTION CARRIES.

1:23:12ALL RIGHT.

1:23:13ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A RESOLUTION

1:23:13AUTHORED BY SEVERAL COUNCIL

1:23:15MEMBERS REGARDING THE

1:23:18MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS

1:23:19SCHOOL CLOSURE DEPROGRAMMING IN

1:23:23RELATIONSHIP TO THE MINNEAPOLIS

1:23:24PUBLIC SCHOOLS TRANSFORMATION

1:23:26PLAN.

1:23:26I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER

1:23:28VETAW TO START US OFF WITH SOME

1:23:30COMMENTS.

1:23:31>> THANK YOU CHAIR.

1:23:33SO, RIGHT, THERE ARE SEVERAL

1:23:36COUNCIL MEMBERS COAUTHORED THIS.

1:23:37ME BEING THE MAIN AUTHOR.

1:23:39BUT I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH

1:23:41SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS THIS

1:23:42MORNING, TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT'S

1:23:44MEETING, AND THAT THEY MIGHT BE

1:23:46MAKING A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT AUND

1:23:48THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE

1:23:50BRINGING FORWARD TODAY.

1:23:51SO I WANTED TO CONTINUE MOVING

1:23:55IT FORWARD, BUT ALSO WITH THE

1:23:58POSSIBILITY THAT I ALSO MAY BE

1:24:01WITHDRAWING IT AT A LATER DATE

1:24:02IF THINGS GO A CERTAIN WAY

1:24:04TONIGHT AT THE MEETIN

1:24:05THANK YOU TO ALL MY COLLEAGUES

1:24:07FOR HELPING WITH THIS.

1:24:09IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE

1:24:11SUPPORT OUR FAMILIES DURING THIS

1:24:12TIME.

1:24:13IT'S REALLY SCY FOR FAMILIES

1:24:15WHOSE SCHOOLS ARE ON THE LIST

1:24:16FOR BEING CLOSED DOWN NEXT YEARE

1:24:21MEETING TONIGHT BEFORE TAKING

1:24:24ANY MORE ACTION ON THIS.

1:24:30>> THANK YOU.

1:24:33COUNCIL MEMBER STEVENSON.

1:24:34>> I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR

1:24:34THAT, I HADN'T HAD THAT UPDATE.

1:24:36SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR

1:24:38THAT.

1:24:38I WANTED TO COAUTHOR THIS,

1:24:40BECAUSE A LOT OF PARENTS AND

1:24:42FAMILIES AND EDUCATORS IN MY

1:24:45AREA IN MY AREA IN SOUTH

1:24:49MINNEAPOLIS ARE REALLY UPSET

1:24:49ABOUT THIS PLAN PARTICULARLY THE

1:24:50CLOSING OF FIELD ELEMENTARY.

1:24:52FIELD HAS A RICH HISTORY IN WARD

1:24:56EIGHT.

1:24:56IT'S A CORNERSTONE OF THE SOUTH

1:24:58SIDE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY,

1:24:59AND WAS ONE OF THE FIRST SCHOOLS

1:25:01IN MINNEAPOLIS TO PARTICIPATE IN

1:25:02THE DESEGREGATION PROGRAMS IN

1:25:041971.

1:25:08SO, SEEING THAT SCHOOL CLOSED IN

1:25:11ALL OF THE OF THE OPTIONS GIVEN

1:25:13WAS REALLY ALARMING TO MY

1:25:15COMMUNITY.

1:25:16SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT MAYBE

1:25:17THERE'S A GOOD ANNOUNCEMENT

1:25:18COMING VERY SOON FOR, AT A VERY

1:25:22MINIMUM, AT LEAST MORE PUBLIC

1:25:24ENGAGEMENT ON THIS MASSIVE,

1:25:27MASSIVE DECISION.

1:25:28SO REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT

1:25:30UPDATE.

1:25:30THANK Y.

1:25:31>> THANK Y, COUNCIL MEMBER.

1:25:33I HAVE MYSELF IN QUEUE, AND

1:25:37PERHAPS JUST WANT TO CLARIFY

1:25:37COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW THAT I HAVE

1:25:39AN UNDERSTANDI OF WHAT YOU

1:25:40WANT TO DO NEXT.

1:25:40SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT

1:25:42FORWARD...

1:25:43>> WITHOUT RECOMNDATION.

1:25:45>> WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION?

1:25:47OKAY.

1:25:47AND THEN THERE IS A NEED TO

1:25:49WITHDRAW, THEN THERE'LL BE A

1:25:51WITHDRAWAL.

1:25:51>> AT AT FULL COUNCIL.

1:25:53I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO

1:25:54WITHDRAW.

1:25:55>> OKAY.

1:25:56>> THANK YOU.

1:25:57GREAT.

1:25:57AND THEN I WILL PROVIDE SOME

1:26:00COMMENTS, TOO.

1:26:02I HAVE BEEN DEEPLY ENGAGED WITH

1:26:05MY COMMUNITY IN THE 12th WARD,

1:26:09AND THERE ARE TWO SCHOOLS IN

1:26:11PARTICULAR THAT ARE IMPACTED

1:26:13SCHOOL CLOSURE AND MERGER, AND

1:26:16THEN A SCHOOL RIGHT OUTSIDE OF

1:26:19MY WARD, LONGFELLOW HIGH SCHOOL,

1:26:22THAT ISET FOR CLOSURE THAT

1:26:24SUPPORTS PARENTING MOTHERS,

1:26:26PREGNANT MOTHERS, A DEEPLY HIGH

1:26:30ED COMMUNITY.

1:26:31AND IT'S JUST BEEN REALLY HARD

1:26:33FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SEE

1:26:35THAT PLAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT

1:26:36THEIR CONSULTATION.

1:26:38IT'S JUST CREATED A REAL SENSE

1:26:39OF FEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO

1:26:41LOSE A RESILIENT NEIGHBORHOOD

1:26:43HUB, ESPECIALLY THROUGH WHAT WE

1:26:44ALL ENDURED DURING OPERATION

1:26:46METRO SURGE.

1:26:47THE SCHOOLS IN MY WARD, AND

1:26:49OUTSIDE MY WARD, ALL THROUGHOUT

1:26:50THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS PROVIDED

1:26:53A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GET HELP,

1:26:55WHETHER IT WAS RENT SUPPORT,

1:26:57WHETHER IT WAS FOOD AND

1:26:59GROCERIES, AND THEY REALLY

1:27:01FORGED A REALLY STRONG NETWORK

1:27:02THAT OUR CITY RELIED ON, AND TO

1:27:04HAVE TT TAKEN AWAY, CREATES A

1:27:09T, AGAIN, OF FEAR AND

1:27:11INSTABILITY.

1:27:11AND I ALSO HAVE TALKED TO A FEW

1:27:12SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS.

1:27:14IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS AN

1:27:15OPPORTUNITY THERE TO NOT GO

1:27:18FORWARD WITH THE SCHOOL CLOSURE

1:27:20PLAN.

1:27:20AND I'M HOPEFUL OF THAT.

1:27:23I DO THINK THE RESOLUTION IS

1:27:26REALLY WELL DONE AND REALLY WELL

1:27:29PUT TOGETHER, A LOT OF VOICES

1:27:31ARE IN IT, AND HOPEFULLY IT CAN

1:27:32BE A PART OF SOMETHING IN THE

1:27:33FUTURE TO COMMUNICATE TTHE

1:27:35DISTRICT ABOUT WHAT THIS

1:27:38COUNCIL'S VOICE IS IN

1:27:42REPRESENTING OUR COMMUNITY.

1:27:43A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER SHARED TO

1:27:45ME THAT, DEPENDING ON WHAT

1:27:47HAPPS, AND NO MATTER WHAT

1:27:48HAPPENS, THEY WANT TO BE MORE

1:27:49DEEPLY ENGAGED WITH COUNCIL

1:27:51MEMBERS THAT REPRESENT OUR

1:27:54COMMUNITIES AND GIVING INPUT

1:27:55ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE

1:27:57SCHOOLS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

1:27:58BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY,

1:28:00COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THEY DON'T

1:28:02KNOW THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE

1:28:04JURISDICTION OVER IT, OR EVEN IF

1:28:06THEY DO KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO

1:28:07REACH OUT TO US FOR LP AND

1:28:09SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE, AND WE ALL

1:28:11END UP REACHING OUT TO OUR

1:28:12SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS ANYWAY IN

1:28:13THE DISTRICT.

1:28:15SO JUST APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT

1:28:17WAS DONE ON THIS.

1:28:18AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER

1:28:22VETAW FOR BRINGING THIS TOG

1:28:24TOGETHER.

1:28:25COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ.

1:28:27>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

1:28:28IF SOMEONE CAN MAYBE GIVE US

1:28:29MORE CONTEXT, I THINK WHAT I

1:28:29HEARD WAS THAT THERE'S TWO

1:28:31SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS PROPOSING

1:28:32AN ACTION TODAY AT SCHOOL

1:28:35BOARD MEETING, SO TONIGHT, TO

1:28:38DELATHE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED

1:28:40CLOSURES OF MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC

1:28:42SCHOOL AND THERE MIGHT BE A

1:28:44DECISION TODAY.

1:28:44IS THERE A VOTES FOR THIS, OR

1:28:47NO?

1:28:47>> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, I

1:28:49DON'T WANT TO JUST SAY TOO MUCH,

1:28:51BECAUSE IT'S THE SCHOOL BOARD'S

1:28:53ACTION.

1:28:53BUT JUST FROM CONVERSATIONS I

1:28:55HAD EARLIER THIS MORNING, IT

1:28:56SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE

1:28:58MORE THAN THAT.

1:29:00THAN JUST LIKE A DELAY OR

1:29:03SOMETHING.

1:29:03LI ACTUALLY MORE ENGAGEMENT

1:29:06AND FIGURING OUT A DIFFERENT

1:29:07STRATEGY.

1:29:08>> OKAY.

1:29:08THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING,

1:29:09MAYBE JUST TRANSPARENTLY HERE...

1:29:13RIGHT?

1:29:13I DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION.

1:29:14I THINK SENDING IT FORWARD

1:29:15WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION... I JUST

1:29:17N'T WANT MY CONSTITUENTS TO

1:29:18THINK THAT...

1:29:19>> I MEAN, I'M FINE TH SENDING

1:29:22IT... WE CAN VOTE ON IT I HAVE

1:29:23NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

1:29:24>> I THINK WHAT I WOULD SAY IS

1:29:25THAT WE MO IT WITH

1:29:26RECOMMENDATION AND THAT FULL

1:29:26COUNCIL BE RETREATED IF THEY

1:29:28MADE A DECISION.

1:29:30>> TOTALLY FINE.

1:29:31>> AMAZING.

1:29:31OKAY.

1:29:32PERFECT.

1:29:32THAT WAS THE ONLY COMMENTS I HAD

1:29:33I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT

1:29:33INFORMATIOAND HOPING THAT THIS

1:29:34CAN BE AN EXTRA BUMP AT THE

1:29:35SCHOOL BOARD MEETING AND TO THE

1:29:37TEACHERS, EDUCATORS, FAMILIES,

1:29:38THAT ARE REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT

1:29:39THE CLOSURES, AND DID WANT TO

1:29:41THANK COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW FOR

1:29:42HER LEADERSHIP AND WORKING WITH

1:29:43COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS

1:29:45RESOLUTION.

1:29:45>> GREAT.

1:29:46SO MOVING IT FORWARD WITH

1:29:48RECOMMENDATION?

1:29:48>> MOVING IT FORWARD.

1:29:49>> YEAH, LET'S JUST TAKE ONE

1:29:51UNANIMOUS VOTE ON IT, HOPEFULLY

1:29:53ON THIS.

1:29:53>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

1:29:54>> EXCELLENT.

1:29:55I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS A SECOND.

1:29:57>> IT GOT A SECOND.

1:29:58[ LAUGHTER ]

1:29:59>> EXCELLENT. I THIRD IT.

1:30:01COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY.

1:30:06>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

1:30:08>> OH, YOU DID IT IN PUBLIC THIS

1:30:10TIME ON THE MIC RECORDED!

1:30:12WOW!

1:30:13>> MAYBE WE SHOULD KEEP... NO,

1:30:16LET ME STOP.

1:30:18>> WE NEED TO HAVE...

1:30:20>> MY DEEPEST APOLOGIES TO CHAIR

1:30:23CHOWDHURY AND VICE CHAIR

1:30:25CHUGHTAI.

1:30:26I'M SORRY, I HAVE MY ORANGE HAT

1:30:29ON TOD.

1:30:29>> I'LL BE EMAILING.

1:30:32>> BUT THAT'S IT, CHAIR

1:30:36CHOWDHURY.

1:30:36FOR YOUR RECOGNITION.

1:30:38I WANTED TO ALSO NAME WHY I'M

1:30:40SUPPORTIVE OF THIS MOTION

1:30:42REGARDLESS OWHAT THE SCHOOL

1:30:42BOARD ACTS I THINK ALL OF US

1:30:43HAVE NAMED OR MANY OF US HAVE

1:30:43NAMED WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE

1:30:44MINNEAPOLIS SCHOOL BOARD MOVE

1:30:46FORWARD WITH A DELAY.

1:30:47I WILL NAME... I WOULD LIKE TO

1:30:48SEE A FULL ABANDONMENT OF ANY

1:30:50DISCUSSIONBOUT SCHOOL

1:30:52CLOSURES.

1:30:52AND I SAY THAT AS SOMEONE WHO

1:30:54LIVED THROUGH CHICAGO'S

1:30:58QUOTE/UNQUOTE RENAISSANCE 2010.

1:31:00BASICALLY, THAT WAS THEIR

1:31:01TRANSFORMATION PLAN.

1:31:02AND IT CLOSED BETEN 80 TO 100

1:31:04PUBLIC SCHOOLS, MOSTLY LOCATED

1:31:09IN BLACK, BROWN AND LATINO

1:31:11COMMUNITIES ALL OVE CHICAGO.

1:31:13AND IN FACT, THE HIGH SCHOOL

1:31:16THAT MY PARENTS AND MY LOVED

1:31:18ONES WENT TO WAS CLOSED AS A

1:31:20RESULT OF THAT, AND THEN

1:31:23CONSOLIDATED INTO THREE SMALLER

1:31:24SCHOOLS.

1:31:24TWO OF THOSE THREE MOSTLY

1:31:27CHARTER SCHOOLS.

1:31:27AND THE SCHOOL THAT I EVEN WENT

1:31:29TO THROUGH THAT CONSOLIDATION IS

1:31:30NO LONGER IN OPERATION.

1:31:32SO EVEN ALMOST 15 YEARS OUT OF

1:31:35CHICAGO DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR,

1:31:36THEY HAVE NOT SEEN BETTER

1:31:38OUTCOMES IN THEIR ENROLLMENT

1:31:39NUMBERS.

1:31:39THEY HAVE NOT SEEN STABILIZATION

1:31:41IN THE FISCAL LANDSCAPE OF THEIR

1:31:43SCHOOL DISTRICT AS A RESULT OF

1:31:45SHUTTERING OVER. OR NEARLY 100

1:31:48COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.

1:31:49AND I THINK LARGELY WE'VE HEARD

1:31:51THAT METRIC FROM MANY PARENTS

1:31:52AND FAMILIES WHO HAVE NOTED THAT

1:31:54THE IDENCE DOES NOT SHOW

1:31:56NATIONALLY.

1:31:57THE TRENDS DOES NOT AFFIRM THAT

1:31:58SCHOOL CLOSURES ACTUALLY ALLOW

1:32:00FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS,

1:32:01SPECIFICALLY PUBLIC SCHOOL

1:32:02DISTRICTS TO TRULY FLOURISH, AND

1:32:04TO ALLOW ALL FAMILIES THEIRRIGHD

1:32:10EQUITABLE EDUCATION.

1:32:12SO, IT IS MY HOPE, COMMUNITY

1:32:16GAGEMENT OR NOT, WE SHOULD NOT

1:32:17EVEN BE TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL

1:32:18CLOSURES, WHEN THERE IS NO

1:32:19EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS THAT THIS

1:32:21HAS BEEN A FRUITFUL OR EFFECTIVE

1:32:23STRATEGY.

1:32:23AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT MANY OF THE

1:32:26PARENTS WHO HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING

1:32:28IN MY WORK, BECAUSE PRATT

1:32:30ELEMENTARY PARTICULARLY IS UNDER

1:32:31THREAT OF CLORE, BASED ON THE

1:32:35DISTRICTS PLAN.

1:32:36AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME

1:32:36THAT CLOSURES OR THE PENTIAL

1:32:38CLOSURE HAS KNOCKED AT THE DOOR

1:32:40OF PROSPECT PARK FAMILIES,

1:32:42PARTICULARLY WITH PRATT

1:32:43ELEMENTARY.

1:32:44AND I WANT TO GIVE CREDENCE TO

1:32:47THOSE RESIDENTS WHO... I BELIEVE

1:32:49IT'S BEEN ALMOST THREE ATTEMPTS

1:32:51MADE TO CLOSE PRATT ELEMENTARY'S

1:32:55DOORS.

1:32:57IT TOOK COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN

1:32:58THAT AREA BANDING WITH FAMILI

1:32:59ALL ACROSS THE CITY TO SAY, NO,

1:33:00YOU WILL NOT ELIMINATE THIS

1:33:02SCHOOL.

1:33:02THIS IS ONE OF THE... IF NOT

1:33:04ONLY REMAINING MIDDLE SCHOOL IN

1:33:08SOUTHEAST MINNEAPOLIS.

1:33:10AND IT'S ONE OF THE SCHOOLS THAT

1:33:12PRIMARILY SERVES CHILDREN FROM

1:33:15CEDAR RIVERSIDE, ONE OF OUR MOST

1:33:18DIVERSE COMMUNITIES, AND THEIDES

1:33:21THAT MEAN TO ALL THOSE FAMILIES?

1:33:22WHERE WOULD THEY HAVE TO GO AND

1:33:24BE BUSSED TO?

1:33:27MANY, MANY MILES OUTSIDE OF

1:33:27THEIR OWN COMMUNITI.

1:33:28AND THAT IS SOMETHING

1:33:29UNACCEPTABLE.

1:33:30I THINK THESE ARE THINGS THAT

1:33:32ROLLS US BACK TO THE 1960S,

1:33:35WHERE COMMUNITIES, AGAIN, HAD TO

1:33:37COLETELY GO OUT THEIR WAY TO

1:33:38ACCESS SOMETHING THAT IS

1:33:40BASICALLY A HUMAN RIGHT, AND

1:33:42HAVING A DIGNIFIED, ACCESSIBLE

1:33:44AND EQUITABLE EDUCATION IS THAT.

1:33:46SO IT IS MY HOPE THAT THIS IS

1:33:48THE STARTING PLACE OF ACTUALLY

1:33:51MOVING TOWARDS WHAT CAN

1:33:52STABILIZE OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT,

1:33:53WHAT CAN ACTUAY ALLOW FOR MORE

1:33:56FISCAL SOUNDNESS TO PERVADE IN

1:33:59THE DISTRICT OR THE

1:34:00ADMINISTRATION, AND TO MAKE SURE

1:34:01THAT CLOSURES IS NOT PART OF

1:34:03THAT LONG-TERM STRATEGY.

1:34:05THAT IS MY CONVERSATIONS WITH MY

1:34:06COMMUNITYEMBERS AND WITH OUR

1:34:08LEADERS IN THIS MOMENT, AS WE'RE

1:34:10TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF

1:34:11PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN OUR CITY.

1:34:15>> THANK YOU.

1:34:15NEXT IL RECOGNIZE

1:34:18COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO.

1:34:20>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

1:34:22THERE'S MULTIPLE SCHOOLS IN MY

1:34:23WARD IMPACTED BY THE OUTLINED

1:34:26INFORMATION GIVEN BY THE

1:34:27DISTRICT.

1:34:29I PUT MYSELF IN QUEUE, BECAUSE

1:34:30SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE

1:34:32CLRLY VOICED THAT THEY WANT TO

1:34:35STOP ANY SCHOOL CLOSURE.

1:34:36I SUPPORT THE LANGUAGE IN THE

1:34:39RESOLUTION, WHAT IS IN THERE,

1:34:40AND WHAT IS NOT IN TRE.

1:34:47MANY OF YOU KNOW THIS ABOUT ME

1:34:49ME... ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF MY

1:34:49TEAM IN THE 13th WARD OFFICE

1:34:51IS A KENNY PARENT.

1:34:51MY OTHER AIDE HAS FOUR KIDS THAT

1:34:52HAVE GONE THROUGH MINNEAPOLIS

1:34:53PUBLIC SCHOOLS, ALBEIT IN THE

1:34:54PAST.

1:34:55I HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE OF KENNY

1:34:57ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND ITS

1:34:58LEADERSHIP AND STAFF THAN ANY

1:34:59OTHER SCHOOL IN THE DISTRICT.

1:35:01THE IMPACTS OF THIS INFORMATI

1:35:02ON THAT SCHOOL AND OTHERS IN THE

1:35:05DISTRICT ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL OR

1:35:06ABSTCT TO ME.

1:35:08AND I HEAR THE COMMUNITY'S

1:35:11CONCERNS AND FEEL REAL SADNESS

1:35:12THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE

1:35:14FORWARD TOWARD REACHING MPS

1:35:17GOALS, THAT THERE ARE SCHOOLS

1:35:18THAT MIGHT NEED TO CLOSE.

1:35:20EVEN IF TEMPORARILY.

1:35:23MY OWN CHILDREN HAVE GONE TO

1:35:24MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS NOW,

1:35:26CURRENTLY, FOR A COLLECTIVE OF

1:35:2716 YEARS THUS FAR.

1:35:29AND I HOPE TO CONTINUE IN THAT.

1:35:32I'M A PROUD FORMER RUNNING COACH

1:35:35AT MPS, AND CURRENTLY A VERY

1:35:36INVOLVED BOOSTER PARENT IN

1:35:38ATHLETICS FOR MANY SPORTS, AND A

1:35:40ROOM REP, BETWEEN MY TWO KIDS

1:35:43HERE.

1:35:43AND NOT TO GET INTO MY OWN LIFE,

1:35:45T I'M THE DAUGHTER OF A PUBLIC

1:35:46SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR.

1:35:48I TRUST THE HARD WORK THAT

1:35:50DOCTOR SAYLES ADAMS AND HER

1:35:52DEPUTIES HAVE PUT INTO THIS

1:35:54RESPONSE, THIS REQUEST FOR

1:35:57INFORMATION,ND I'VE BEEN

1:35:59DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED AT THE WAY

1:36:00THAT THEY'VE BEEN RECEID AND

1:36:04THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN

1:36:05WEAPONIZED AGAINST T

1:36:06NARRATIVE.

1:36:07I GET PASSION IN PARENTS.

1:36:10I MYSELF AM PARTICULARLY

1:36:11PASSIONATE ABOUT MY KIDS'

1:36:14EDUCATION TOO.

1:36:14BUT WE NEED TO ENGAGE HONESTLY

1:36:18IN THIS CONVERSATION, AND I URGE

1:36:19THE SCHOOL BOARD NOT TO

1:36:22CAPITULATE ABOUT NEEDINGHANGE

1:36:23AS TO HOW THEY DO BUSINESS TO

1:36:26ADEQUATELY SERVE EVERY KID

1:36:27ACROSS MNEAPOLIS.

1:36:29I URGE OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS

1:36:32TO TALK DIRELY TO THE

1:36:33PRINCIPALS WHO ARE STRUGGLING

1:36:35EVERY DAY TO SERVE THE CHILDREN

1:36:36THAT WALK THROUGH THE DOORS TO

1:36:39THEIR SCHOOLS WITH MANY

1:36:39DIFFERENT KINDS OF NEEDS

1:36:40I'M ALSO A STUDENT WHO MOVED

1:36:43SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF A PARENT'S

1:36:46B SITUATION.

1:36:47AND I'M A STUDENT WHOSE HIGH

1:36:49SCHOOL CLOSED AND THEN BUSSED

1:36:52FOUR TIMES THE DISTANCE TOANOTH.

1:36:54LEARNING THAT EME A MERD SCHOOL

1:36:58COULD REALLY COMBINE A POSITIVE

1:36:59SCHOOL CULTURE.

1:37:00MY HUSBAND AND I CONTINUE TO

1:37:02BELIEVE, DESPITE STRUGGLES IN

1:37:03THE VALUE OF A PUBLIC SCHOOL

1:37:04EDUCATION AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO

1:37:06OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

1:37:11WE ALL KNOW THERE IS NO

1:37:13CONSTITUENCY FOR SCHOOL

1:37:15CLOSURES.

1:37:15WHETHER THAT SCHOOL IS

1:37:16PERFORMING WELL OR NOT, WHETHER

1:37:18YOU ARE A HIGHLY ENGAGED PARENT

1:37:21OR NOT.

1:37:22AND THE MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN OUR

1:37:24CITY WITHOUT KIDS, WHO MIGHT BE

1:37:25FISCALLY MOTIVATED BUT AREN'T

1:37:27PAYING THAT MUCH ATTENTION.

1:37:29I LIKE THAT WE ARE ASKING TO

1:37:31SHOW HOW DOING SOMETHING LIKE

1:37:35REDUCING THE PHYSICAL FOOTPRINT

1:37:36ULD BE FISCALLY BENEFICIAL FOR

1:37:38THE NEXTONG-TERM FOR OUR

1:37:40SCHOOL SYSTEM ACROSS THE CITY.

1:37:42BUT IN THIS MOMENT, WHAT I HEAR

1:37:45THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS

1:37:46TALKING ABOUT IS HOW TO GIVE ALL

1:37:47THE KIDA QUALITY EXPERIENCE.

1:37:51AND THERE'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT

1:37:54GOALS OF DISMANTLING SYSTEMIC

1:37:55INEQUITY HERE, OF WORKING TO

1:37:57LISTEN HARD TO THE PEOPLE WHOSE

1:38:00VOICES AREN'T BEING HEARD.

1:38:02AND I FEAR THAT PARENTS, PARENTS

1:38:06IN MY COMMITY HAVE REALLY LOST

1:38:07THE NARRATIVE.

1:38:09LET'S NOT FAIL THE CITY'S

1:38:11COLLECTIVE CHILDREN.

1:38:13MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM

1:38:15IS NOT LIVING UP TO THEIR OWN

1:38:17GOALS, NOT THE GOAL OF GIVING

1:38:18EVERY STUDE IN MINNEAPOLIS A

1:38:22QUALITY EDUCATION.

1:38:22AND I AM ADAMANT THAT WE CANNOT

1:38:25BE FICKLE, AND WE HAVE TO HELP

1:38:27BY BEING HONEST.

1:38:29WE HAVE TO SEE THIS, AND WE HAVE

1:38:30TO START WITH THE STUDENT

1:38:32EXPERIENCE OF GIVING EVERY

1:38:34STUDENT IN EVERY PART OF THE

1:38:36CITY A QUALITY EXPERIENCE.

1:38:41I LIKE HOW IN OUR RESOLUTION IT

1:38:42SAYS TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME

1:38:43FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT,

1:38:45CONSIDERATION OF ALTERNATIVES,

1:38:47AND DEVELOPMENT OF A

1:38:48COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY

1:38:50ADDRESSING ENROLLMENT, FINANCES,

1:38:52FACILITIES, AND THE LONG-TERM

1:38:54SUSTAINABILITY OF MINNEAPOLIS

1:38:55PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

1:38:56THAT'S AMBITIOUS.

1:38:57BUT I URGE US ALL TO KEEP ON

1:39:00GOING.

1:39:00AND IF THE SCHL BOARD PAUSES,

1:39:02I HOPE NO ONE CELEBRATES THAT.

1:39:04NOBODY HAS WON IN THAT.

1:39:06I SURE WON'T BE SAYING

1:39:08"CONGRATULATIONS."

1:39:09LET'S GET TO THE SYSTEMIC CHANGE

1:39:12THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED HEREE

1:39:17FUNDING TO UNDER CAPACITY

1:39:18SCHOOLS.

1:39:19BUT I KNOW THAT IT IS ABOUT

1:39:22CELEBRATING ALL THE

1:39:24HIGH-PERFORMING ALBEIT SMALL

1:39:25SCHOOLS, THAT SOME OF THEM ARES.

1:39:28THERE ARE STUDENTS THAT ARE

1:39:30BEING GROSSLY UNDERSERVED IN OUR

1:39:32DISTRICT, AND WE HAVE TO BE

1:39:33HONEST ABOUT THAT.

1:39:35I NEED TO SAY I FULLY APPRECIATE

1:39:39THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS

1:39:42RESPONDING TO FEEDBACK, IS

1:39:43RESPONDING TO A REQUEST FROM

1:39:44THEIR DISTRICT DIRECTORS, AND I

1:39:47URGE US ALL TO LET IT PLAY OUT

1:39:49THE WAY THAT WE AS PARENTS HAVE

1:39:51SEEN IT PLAY OUT.I HAVE A PUBLIT

1:39:54WHO HAS A CLASS SO FULL THAT THE

1:39:55TEACHER CAN BARELY TAKE

1:39:58ATTENDANCE.

1:39:58IT'S BEEN WRONG THREE TIMES IN

1:40:00THE FIRST MTH OF SCHOOL.

1:40:02AND THERE'S NO GETTING HOLD OF

1:40:03HER AS A STUDENT, IF YOU GO

1:40:05BEFORE OR AFTER SCHOOL, BECAUSE

1:40:06SHE'S RUNNING TO TEACH AT

1:40:08MULTIPLE SCHOOLS, AND HAS NO

1:40:10TIME THEN TO RESPOND TO EMAILS

1:40:11ACCORDINGLY.

1:40:13I HAVE A PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENT,

1:40:15WHO'S HAD NO LIBRARIAN,

1:40:17PART-TIME NURSES TEACHING WITH

1:40:19THE LOOPING METHOD SO THEY CAN

1:40:22ACPT 30LE SECOND-GRADERS INTO

1:40:24THEIR CLASS INSTEAD OF 25, THEN

1:40:26COMBINED YEARS IN SINGLE

1:40:28CLASSROOMS.

1:40:28NOW NO GROUP READING

1:40:30INTERVENTION SPECIALISTS WITHOUT

1:40:31A SPECIAED DIAGNOSIS.

1:40:31AND THAT'S JUST THE PAST FEW

1:40:33YEARS.

1:40:35ADING FOR OUR KIDS ACROSS THE

1:40:37CITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT, WHEN

1:40:39YOU STT NEEDING TO READ IN

1:40:40ORDER TO LEARN.

1:40:44BOTH MY CHILDREN HAVE AMAZING

1:40:46PRINCIPALS, ALWAYS TRYING TO

1:40:47PULL A N WAY TO SAVE MEY OUT

1:40:48OF THEIR HAT, AND THEY'RE

1:40:50RUNNING OUT OF OPTIONS.

1:40:52WE NEED TO HAVE THE SUPPORT, NOT

1:40:54BY TRYING TO RAISE PRIVATE MONEY

1:40:56IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY.

1:40:57YOU CAN RAISE A LOT MORE MONEY

1:40:58THAN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

1:41:01STUDENTS ACROSS THE SYSTEM ARE

1:41:04BEING FAILED BY THIS MODEL.

1:41:06SO I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER

1:41:08VETAW ELEVATING THAT 'RE AWARE

1:41:10THAT THE BOARD IS MEETING

1:41:11TONIGHT, IN DIRECTION ABOUT

1:41:12WHAT'S NEXT MIGHT CHANGE

1:41:15SUBSTANTIALLY, AND I'M GLAD THAT

1:41:16WE WILL ALL KNOW MORE AFTER

1:41:18TOGHT'S MEETING.

1:41:18I'M GOING TO BE INTERESTED,

1:41:21CONCERNED, AND INVOLVED.

1:41:24>> THANK YOU.

1:41:24NEXT'LL RECOGNIZE

1:41:27COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER.

1:41:27>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY,

1:41:30AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMR

1:41:31PALMISANO FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

1:41:32AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW

1:41:36AND OTHERS FOR BRINGING THIS

1:41:38FORWARD.

1:41:38WHATEVER HAPPENS THIS EVENINGI

1:41:39WILL WATCH WITH INTEREST,

1:41:42BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT OUR CITY.

1:41:44WE CARE ABOUT OUR SCHOOLS.

1:41:46AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT OUR

1:41:48JURISDICTION, WE WANT WHAT'S

1:41:50BEST FOR OUR RESIDENTS' KIDS.

1:41:51AND I JUST HOPE THAT THE

1:41:54REDISTRICTING IS NOT COMPLETELY

1:41:56TAKEN OFF THE TABLE THIS

1:41:59EVENING, IS MY HOPE.

1:42:00BECAUSE IF WE TRULY DO WANT TO

1:42:02DRIVE ENROLLMENT, IF WE DO WANT

1:42:03TO BRING PEOPLE BACK TO THE

1:42:06SYSTEM, CURRENTLY IN MY WARD

1:42:09ONLY ONE-THIRD OF CHILDREN

1:42:11ATTEND MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC

1:42:12SCHOOLS.

1:42:12AND THERE HAS BEEN NOW

1:42:15ESTABLISHED PATHWAYS WHERE

1:42:15CHILDREN ATTEND ONE SCHOOL, AND

1:42:18THEN WITH THEIR FRIENDS TO THE

1:42:19TUNE OF ONE-THIRD TO ONE HALF OF

1:42:23THEIR CLASS HAVE A TRANSITION

1:42:24OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF

1:42:26MINNEAPOLIS THAT IS PLANNED,

1:42:27THAT IS EXPECTED, THAT EVERYONE

1:42:29BUYS INTO.

1:42:29AND IT ISNFORTUNATE.

1:42:31AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL ALSO

1:42:34INCLUDE THINKING ABOUT THESE

1:42:37REDISTRICTING IDEAS THAT WERE ON

1:42:38THE TABLE AND NOT FORGO THOSE

1:42:40COMPLETELY IN THIS DISCUSSION.

1:42:42BECAUSE WE REALLY DO WANT TO

1:42:45SUPPORT OUR MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC

1:42:47SCHOOLS AND PUBLIC SCHOOL

1:42:48TEACHERS WITH ALL OF THE

1:42:50RESIDENTS THAT WE CAN.

1:42:54THANKS.

1:42:57>> THANK YOU.

1:42:58NEXT I'LL RECOGNIZE

1:42:59COUNCILMEMBER VETAW.

1:43:00>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

1:43:02I REALLY HAD DECIDED NOT TO

1:43:04SPEAK ON THE ISSUE, BECAUSE WE

1:43:06WERE GOING TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

1:43:07BUT I WANT TO JUST SAY, YOU

1:43:09KNOW, THIS FIGHT FOR ME IS A

1:43:12FIGHT FOR WARD 4 RESIDENTS.

1:43:15LAWRENCE SCHOOL IS A COMMUNITY

1:43:17SCHOOL THAT MEETING THE

1:43:18REQUIREMENTS.

1:43:18YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO

1:43:20TALK TO FAMILIES WHO S THEY

1:43:22INTENTIONALLY SENT THEIR

1:43:25CHILDREN TO LAWRENCE SCHOOL

1:43:26TOGETHER AS A GROUP, AND THEY

1:43:27PLAN ON DOING THAT WITH THEIR

1:43:30CHILDREN TOUGHOUT THEIR SCHOOL

1:43:31CAREERS.

1:43:32AND SO I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT

1:43:34IS.

1:43:34I HAVE NCES AND NEPHEWS WHO

1:43:37ATTEND RIGHT NOW.

1:43:40SO THERE IS CERTAINLY A PERSONAL

1:43:40CRY FOR ME TO HELP MY NIECES AND

1:43:42NEPHEWS SAVE THEIR SCHOOL.

1:43:43BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE

1:43:44CONVERSATION TO BE HAD OVERALL

1:43:47IS 50% OF NORTHSIDE STUDENTS GO

1:43:50OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT.

1:43:51AND SO MY CALL IS TO GET THE

1:43:542000 STUDENTS BACK INTO MPS THAT

1:43:58WE NEED.

1:43:58AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO

1:43:59WORK WITH THE SCHOOL AND THE

1:44:03ADMINISTRATION ON, IS IT'S NOT

1:44:07ABOUT GIVING UP ON OUR STUDENTS.

1:44:07IT'S ABOUT WELCOMING OUR

1:44:08STUDENTS BACK IN TO MINNEAPOLIS

1:44:09PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

1:44:10BECAUSE IF WE WANT THIS TO WORK,

1:44:12THAT'S THE NUMBER.

1:44:13WE NEED 2000 KIDS.

1:44:14SO I'M COMMITTED TO WORKING

1:44:16TOWARDS GETTING THOSEAMILIES

1:44:17WHO HAVE DECIDED TO GO OUT OF

1:44:19THE DISTRICT TO COME BACK TO THE

1:44:21DISTRICT.

1:44:21DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS OR

1:44:22WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT THAT'S

1:44:25MY COMMITMENT THIS.

1:44:27I'M A PRODUCT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

1:44:31I WOULD ALWAYS SPEAK ON BEHALF

1:44:32OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND SO THAT'S

1:44:35THE GOAL, IS TO WORK WITH THE

1:44:36SCHOOL BOARD, TO WORK WITH

1:44:39WHOMEVER, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

1:44:40CAN GET THOSE 2000 STUDENTS BACK

1:44:42INTO MPS, SO WE'RE NOT DEALING

1:44:46WITH THIS IN TWOEARS, THE SAME

1:44:48THINGS IN TWO YEARS.

1:44:51>> SO THANK YOU.

1:44:53SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

1:44:54I WILL ASK THE CRK TO CALL THE

1:44:58ROLL.

1:44:59>> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE

1:45:00>> AYE.

1:45:02>> WONSLEY.

1:45:02>> AYE.

1:45:03>> RAINVILLE.

1:45:04>> AYE.

1:45:05>> VETAW.

1:45:06>> AYE.

1:45:07>> WARREN ISBSENT.

1:45:09OSMAN.

1:45:09>> AYE.

1:45:10>> SHAFFER.

1:45:11>> AYE.

1:45:11>> STEVENSON.>> AYE.

1:45:13>> CHAVEZ.

1:45:14>> AYE.

1:45:16>> PALMISANO.

1:45:16>> AYE.

1:45:19>> VICE CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

1:45:20>> AYE.

1:45:22>> AND CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

1:45:23>> AYE.

1:45:25>> THERE ARE 11 AYES.

1:45:27>> THAT CARRIES.

1:45:29LASTLY IS OUR DISCUSSION ITEM

1:45:32NUMBER THREE, AND IT IS A STAFF

1:45:34DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL LEADERS

1:45:35REQUESTING THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S

1:45:37OFFICE TO PROVIDE US WITH A

1:45:39LEGAL ANALYSIS AS TO THE CITY

1:45:42UNCIL'S SUBPOENA AUTHORITY.

1:45:44WOULD ANY AUTHORS LIKE TO SPEAK

1:45:47TO THIS?

1:45:49COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE.

1:45:51>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

1:45:53YEAH, WE MET AS A LEADERSHIP

1:45:54TEAM IN RESPONSE TO THE LETTER

1:45:55THE MAR SENT ABOUT RESTRICTING

1:45:57STAFF TIME TO COMMITTEE.

1:45:58I KNOW THAT AS WE'VE HAD A

1:46:01COUPLE CYCLES SINCE THAT LETTER,

1:46:02THE CHAIRS HAVE BEEN WORKING

1:46:03WITH THOSE DEPTMENT HEADS THAT

1:46:06ARE SLATED TO PRENT TO US AND

1:46:09HAVE BEEN NAVIGATING THIS.

1:46:11BUT I MET WITH THE MAYOR, AND HE

1:46:12STOOD BY HIS LETTER.

1:46:15SO WE REALLY CAN'T CONTROL WHAT

1:46:16THE ADMINISTRATIO DOES.

1:46:17WE CAN ONLY CONTROL WHAT WE CAN

1:46:19DO ON OUR SIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT

1:46:22STRUCTURE, AND WITH SOME INITIAL

1:46:24RESEARCH, THERE ARE SOME LOCAL

1:46:25JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE OF

1:46:27MINNESOTA THAT DO HAVE THE

1:46:28ABILITY TO COMPEL CITY OFFICIALS

1:46:33TO PRESENT, AND JUST WANTED

1:46:35TO WORK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS

1:46:38TO GET A LEGAL MEMO THAT CAN

1:46:40SHARE THAT PATHWAY FOR US

1:46:43ANOTHER MEANS OF OVERSIGHT.

1:46:45>> THANKOU.

1:46:47COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY.

1:46:48>> THANK YOU.

1:46:51THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

1:46:53I'M ALSO PLEASED TO BE MOVING

1:46:55THIS MOTION FORWARD, AND I WILL

1:46:58ASK FOR A SECOND.

1:46:59>> SECOND.

1:46:59>> THANK YOU.

1:47:01WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND COUNCIL

1:47:03LEADERSHIP, BECAUSAS A

1:47:05LEGISLATIVE BODY, WE HAVE THE

1:47:06RESPONSIBILITY TO ADDRESS

1:47:08BARRIERS TO TRANSPARENCY AND

1:47:10ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEMICALLY,

1:47:12RATHER THAN JUST ON A

1:47:15CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

1:47:16AND I KNOWINCE I ENTERED CITY

1:47:17HALL FIVE YEARS AGO, OR NEARLY

1:47:18FIVE YEARS AGO, ONE OF MY

1:47:20ONGOING CONCERNS HAS BEEN HOW

1:47:21MUCH THIS INSTITUTION OPERATES

1:47:23THROUGH UNWRITTEN CULTURAL NORMS

1:47:25RATH THAN CLEAR STANDARDIZED

1:47:27POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT ARED

1:47:31CONSISTENTLY APPLIED.

1:47:31AND TRANSPARENCY AND ACCESS TO

1:47:34INFORMATION SHOULD NOT DEPEND ON

1:47:35WHO OCCUPIES THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

1:47:36OR WHO SERVES ON THE CITY

1:47:38COUNCIL, OR EVEN THE WILLINGNESS

1:47:40OF ANY PARTICULAR ADMINISTRATION

1:47:42TO COOPERATE.

1:47:42THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY

1:47:46FOUNDATIONAL A FUNDAMENTAL

1:47:46PRINCIPLES OF GOOD GOVERNANCE,

1:47:47AND THEY MUST BE

1:47:49INSTITUTIONALIZED IN WAYS THAT,

1:47:51AGAIN, ENDURE ALL OF OUR TIME

1:47:53HERE ON THIS BODY AND IN THIS

1:47:56INSTITUTION.

1:47:58AS COUNCIL PRESIDE NAMED, WE

1:48:00KNOW THE MAYOR DID BRING FORWARD

1:48:01A LETTER TO ALL OF US REGARDING

1:48:03OUR CURRENT COUNCIL'S PROCESS.

1:48:05AND ESSENTIALLY IMPLIED, AGAIN,T

1:48:10IT'S MESSY.

1:48:11BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I

1:48:12THINK A FUNCTIONING DEMOCRACY IS

1:48:14MESSY.

1:48:15IT DOES INVOLVE DISAGREEMENT,

1:48:18DEBATE, SCRUTINY, AND SOMETIMES

1:48:20UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATIONS.

1:48:21BUT THAT'S NOT A FLAW IN

1:48:22DEMOCRACY.

1:48:22IT'S AN ESSENTIAL PART OF HOW

1:48:24DEMOCRAC WORKS.

1:48:25BUT WHEN INFORMATION IS

1:48:27RESTRICTED, WHEN STAFF ARE

1:48:28PREVENTED FR PUBLICLY

1:48:29PRESENTING INFORMATION, OR WHEN

1:48:31ELECTED REPRESENTATIVESACE

1:48:33UNNECESSARY BARRIERS TO CARRYING

1:48:35OUT OUR OVERSIGHT

1:48:37RESPONSIBILITIES, THEN THAT

1:48:38WEAKENS OUR DEMOCRACY.

1:48:39SO THIS MOTION IS MAKING SURE

1:48:41THAT THE CITY COUNCIL BOTH TODAY

1:48:43AND IN THE FUTURE HAS THE

1:48:45NECESSARY TOOLS TO FULFILL ITS

1:48:47LEGISLATIVE AND OVERSIGHT

1:48:49RESPONSIBILITIES, INCLUDING WHEN

1:48:51ADMINISTRATION IS UNWILLING OR

1:48:53VOLUNTARILY NOT PROVIDING TH

1:48:57THEM... INVOLUNTARILY NOT

1:48:58PROVIDING THEM.

1:48:58AND ULTIMATELY TRANSPARENCY

1:49:00SHOULD AGAIN BE JUST A STANDARD,

1:49:05NOT A GRANTED PRIVILEGE AT THE

1:49:06DISCRETION OF THOSE POWER.

1:49:08AND THIS IS WHAT THIS MOTION IS

1:49:10ABOUT.

1:49:10IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT

1:49:11'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO UPHOLD

1:49:13THAT STANDARD, AND MAKING SURE

1:49:15THAT OUR RESIDENTS GET A CITY

1:49:17GOVERNMENT WHERE ACCOUNTABILITY

1:49:18IS BUILT INTO OUR INSTITUTIONS

1:49:20AN NOT DEPENDENT ON GOODWILL OR

1:49:22INDIVIDUAL ELECTED OFFICIALS.

1:49:24SO RLLY EXCITED TO BE

1:49:26HOPEFULLY MOVING FORWARD SOME

1:49:27NEXT STEPS, OR GETTING SOME NEXT

1:49:29STEPS IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS

1:49:31FROM OUR CITY STAFF THROUGH THIS

1:49:35REQUEST.

1:49:36>> VICE CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

1:49:38>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

1:49:41JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN HERE TO

1:49:43SPEAKBOUT THE WORK LEADING UP

1:49:50TO BNGING THIS STAFF DIRECTIVE

1:49:54FORWARD.

1:49:55I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT,

1:49:58YOU KNOW, I'M SHANG HERE THAT,

1:50:00YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE ASPECT OF

1:50:03WHAT HELPEUS BRING THIS

1:50:07FORWARD OR WHAT PROMPTED US TO

1:50:08BRING THIS FORWARD NOW IS, IN

1:50:15PART, A RESPONSE TO THE CHANGING

1:50:15LANDSCAPE OF HOW THIS COUNCIL

1:50:18RELATES TO THE ADMISTRATION,

1:50:20AND HOW THE MAYOR DIRECTS THE

1:50:23ADMINISTRATION TO RELA TO THE

1:50:24COUNCIL.

1:50:25THAT ISN'T THE ONLY PIECE OF THE

1:50:27PUZZLE, THOUGH, AND I THINK IT'S

1:50:28REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT.

1:50:32IN THE YEARS IN THE YEARS THAT

1:50:34HAVE COME SINCE THE ADOPTION OF

1:50:36THE NEW GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE, I

1:50:37THINK WE HAVE OFTEN RUN INTO THE

1:50:39GRAY AREA OR JUST DISAGREEMENTS

1:50:47ABOUT HOW THE CHANGE OF THE

1:50:49GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE VERSUS HOW

1:50:51IT'S ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED

1:50:53DAY-TO-DAY LINE UP WITH EACH

1:50:55OTHER, AND HOW THE COUNCIL IS

1:51:01REALLY AT A DISSERVICE IN

1:51:03PERFORMING OUR ROLES OF

1:51:06REPRESENTING OUR CONSTITUENTS,

1:51:08PERFORMING OVERSIGHT, AND BEING

1:51:12THE POWER OF THE CITY'S PURSE.

1:51:14ALL OF THAT ISINDERED WHEN WE

1:51:20RECEIVE INACCURATE OR INCORRECT

1:51:22INFORMATION FROM THE

1:51:23ADMINISTRATION.

1:51:23IT'S HINDERE WHEN, YOU KNOW,

1:51:27WE'LL HEAR ONE THING IN THESE

1:51:30CHAMBERS, AND THEN SOMETHING

1:51:31COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OR

1:51:33CONTRADICTORY IN WRITING, OR

1:51:37WHEN WE ARE NOT ABLE TO BEST

1:51:39SERVE OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE

1:51:41OF A LACK OF INFORMATION, OR

1:51:46MISINFORMATION BEING PRESENTED

1:51:48TO US.

1:51:49SO I JUST WANT TO NOTE, LIKE AS

1:51:52WE ARE MOVING INTO MORE AND MORE

1:51:54YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH US,

1:51:57UNDER THIS NEW GOVERNMENT

1:51:58STRUCTURE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT

1:52:00WE REFINE OUR OVERSIGHT TOOLS TO

1:52:03MATCH THE NEW STRUCTURE OF

1:52:05GOVERNMENT AND TO MATCH CURRENT

1:52:06NDITIONS.

1:52:07SUBPOENA POWER, WHICH IS

1:52:09SOMETHING THAT EXISTS IN LOTS OF

1:52:12CITIES AROUND THE STATE,

1:52:13INCLUDING OTHER CITIES OF THE

1:52:15FIRST CLASS, LIKE DULUTH AND

1:52:18ROCHESTER, THAT WE HAVE ONE

1:52:24ADDITIONAL TOOL IN PERFORMING

1:52:25OUR WORK, IN PERFORMING OUR

1:52:27RESPONSIBILITIES HERE.

1:52:28SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO

1:52:30THE LEGAL REVIEW HERE, AND THINK

1:52:33THAT SUBPOENA AUTHORITY WOULD

1:52:38DRASTICALLY IMPROVE OUR

1:52:39OVERSIGHT TOOLS IN THIS

1:52:42ORGANIZATION.

1:52:44NEXT IS COUNCIL MEMBER SHAFFER.

1:52:47>> THANK YOU.

1:52:48I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS

1:52:50TODAY FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

1:52:55ONE IS I THINK ANY RELATIONSHIP

1:52:59IS REALLY BASED ON TRUST.

1:53:00AND I UNDERSTAND IF OVER YEARS

1:53:02THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH

1:53:03INFORMATION RECEIVED, OR TRUST

1:53:05HAS BEEN BROKE ETC., ETC.

1:53:08BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT CY STAFF

1:53:10AND THE MAYOR HAVE NEVER

1:53:14WILLINGLY STATED TT THEY WOULD

1:53:16NEVER PROVIDE INFORMATION TO US

1:53:18AS A COUNCIL, AS FAR AS I AM

1:53:20AWARE.

1:53:21THEY HAVE ALWAYS SAID, "WE WILL

1:53:23GET YOU THE INFORMATION."

1:53:24WHERE WE SEEM TO HAVE HIT A SNAN

1:53:30NOT BEING ACCEPTABLE TO EHER

1:53:32THE CITY COUNCIL, PRIMARILY, OR

1:53:34THE MAYOR.

1:53:35AND SO IN MY OPINION, THIS IS

1:53:38SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE

1:53:40TO WORK OUT AS PROFESSIONALS FOR

1:53:42THE SAKE OF OUR WHOLE CITY.

1:53:45OUR CITY IS HUNGRY TO SEE US

1:53:46WORKING TOGETHER AS A COUNCIL

1:53:49AND AN ADMINISTRATION,

1:53:51WHETHER WE SUPPORTED THE MAYORIE

1:53:56BETTERMENT OF OUR CITY.

1:53:57AND FOR US TO BRING FORWARD AN

1:54:01INITIATIVE TO ASK OUR LAWYERS,

1:54:03WHEN THEY'RE FIGHTING THE

1:54:04FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WH THEY'RE

1:54:06TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW,

1:54:08HOW TO SUPPORT BUSINESS IN OUR

1:54:09CITY, OR MAYBE NOT T LAWYERS

1:54:11EXACTLY, BUT ALL THE MANY FRONTS

1:54:11THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, TO ASK

1:54:14THEM TO SPEND THEIR VALUABLE

1:54:16LEGAL TIME ON HOW TO HAVE THE

1:54:18CITY COUNCIL BE ABLE TO SUBPOENA

1:54:21THE ADMINISTRATION DO NOT SEEM

1:54:23LIKE A GOOD USE OF OUR TIME, FOR

1:54:25EITHER THEM OR US AS A COUNCIL.

1:54:28SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US SIT

1:54:31DOWN, HAMMER OUT THESE

1:54:33DIFFERENCES, IF IT'S PRIMARILY

1:54:34TIED TO THE INFORMATIONDISSEMING

1:54:36WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WORK

1:54:38THROUGH.

1:54:38TO BRING FORWARD A WHOLE ARENA

1:54:42OF TRYING TO HAVE THE ACTION OF

1:54:43TAKING A SUBPOENA AGAINST OUR

1:54:45OWN CITY SEEMS RIDICULOUS.

1:54:53>> COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO.

1:54:57>> SIMILARO COUNCIL MEMBER

1:54:59SHAFFER, I THINK THIS IS

1:55:00RIDICULOUS.

1:55:00WE ARE NOT ATTORNEYS.

1:55:02WE ARE NOT THE FEDERAL

1:55:03JUDICIARY.

1:55:03WE DO NOT HAVE SUBPOENA POWERS,

1:55:07AND OUR CHARTER DOES NOT ALLOW

1:55:09FOR THIS.

1:55:09SO IT ALL SEEMS PRETTY OBVIOUS.

1:55:11THIS FEELS FAR BEYOND ANY GOAL

1:55:16OF TRANSPARENCY.

1:55:16OUR AUDITORS AND NO ELECTED

1:55:18FICIAL ON THIS BODY SHOULD

1:55:19HAVE THAT KIND OF ACCESS.

1:55:23ONE CONSTITUENT'S REACTION TO

1:55:24SEEING THIS ON TODAY'S AGENDA

1:55:25REACHING OUT TO ME THIS MORNING

1:55:29WAS... "WELL, IT'S CLEARLY NOT

1:55:30GOING WELL WITH YOUR COUNCIL'S

1:55:31MARRIAGE COUNSELING WITH THE

1:55:32MAYOR AND HIS STAFF, SO MAYBE

1:55:33YOU COULD SAVE SOME MONEY WITH

1:55:35THAT."

1:55:37BUT SPECIFIC TO THIS REQUEST,

1:55:38ARE WE WASTING MORE RESOURCES

1:55:40AND TIME HERE?

1:55:41I'M GOING TO PRESUME IT WON'T

1:55:43TAKE MORE THAN A FEW MINUTES.

1:55:45SO DIFFERENT THAN COUNCIL MEMBER

1:55:47SHAFFER, I'LL GO AHEAD AND

1:55:48SUPPORT THIS REQUEST, I SUPPOSE,

1:55:50SO WE CAN ALL PUT THIS ISSUE TO

1:55:52REST.

1:55:57>> COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN.

1:55:58>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK

1:56:03YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

1:56:04ADMINISTRATION IS NOT PERFECT,

1:56:06AND NO ADMINISTRATION WILL BE

1:56:08PERFECT, THIS ONE OR THE NEXT

1:56:10ONE.

1:56:10AND WE WERE ELECTED TO BE THE

1:56:13OVERSIGHT, AND HAVING MORE

1:56:15INFORMATION... I DON'T SEE HOW

1:56:16THAT'S A BAD THING.

1:56:23FOR TREATING, AS THE

1:56:25ADMINISTRATION, THEY'RE ALL

1:56:28GOOD, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TELL

1:56:30US EVERYTHING TRUE, IT'S JUSTNON

1:56:35THINGS THAT HAVE... THAT YOU'RE

1:56:36NOT HAPPY WITH, COUNCIL MEMBERS

1:56:37ARE NOT HAPPY WITH, THAT

1:56:38HAPPENED WITH THIUNDER THIS

1:56:40ADMINISTRATION.

1:56:40AND GOOD EXAMPLE IS THE

1:56:42MISMANAGEMENT OF THE MPD.

1:56:43THEY ADMITTED, THEY SAY THAT,

1:56:50AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW,

1:56:53ADMINISTRATION WILL BE PERFECT,

1:56:54AND THIS IS NOT JUST TOWARDS

1:56:55THIS MAYOR OR ANYBODY.

1:56:58IT'S JUST BEING RESPONSIBLE, AND

1:57:01I'M GLAD THIS IDEA CAME THROUGH

1:57:05CONVERSATION WITH THE LEAD

1:57:09LEADERSHIP, AND I'M HONG WE

1:57:10CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE

1:57:12OVERSIGHT OF WHAT WE ALREADY

1:57:15HAVE.

1:57:15LIMITING INFORMATION, PLAYING

1:57:17POLITICS, YOU KNOW, NOT ALLOWING

1:57:22INFORMATION TO US,ECAUSE THERE

1:57:23ARE INFORMATION THAT I WANT TO

1:57:24KNOW, AND IF THE MAYOR IS

1:57:26SAYING, WELL, THIS STUFF'S NOT

1:57:28GOING TO COME THROUGH, IT'S

1:57:31OBVIOUSLY NOT A GREAT WAY FOR US

1:57:35AS A COUNCIL MEMBERS TO OPERATE

1:57:38AND DO OVERSIGHT WITH THIS.

1:57:42SO POWER BALANCE AND POWER, YOU

1:57:45KNOW, CHECK, IT REALLY IS A

1:57:48SMART WAY TO GO.

1:57:50SO I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYONE, WHO

1:57:54IN THIS POSITION AS A COUNCIL

1:57:55MEMBER, WHO WAS ELECTED TO DO

1:57:56THE OVERSIGHT OF THE GOVERNMENT,

1:57:59CITY GOVERNMENT, IS NOT WILLING

1:58:03TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION COME

1:58:05THROUGH THEIR WAY.

1:58:07SO, YEAH, THAT'S IT FOR ME.

1:58:09THANK YOU.

1:58:12>> NEXT IS PRESINT PAYNE.

1:58:14>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

1:58:17I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO

1:58:17SOMEING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER

1:58:19SHAFFER RAISED.

1:58:20WHICH IS I JUST WANT TO

1:58:21EMPHATICALLY AGREE THAT THIS IS

1:58:21SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ABL TO

1:58:22BE WORKED OUT WITHOUT HAVING TO

1:58:26PURSUE A TL LIKE THIS.

1:58:28BUT I WILL JUST SHARE, THAT'S

1:58:29EXACTLY WHAT I AIMED TO DO WITH

1:58:31THE MAYOR ONE-ON-ONE, AND I WAS

1:58:37DOING MY BEST TO BE AS FLEXIBLE

1:58:38AND ACCOMMODATING AND

1:58:40COLLABORATIVE AS POSSIBLE,

1:58:42OFFERING UP OPPORTUNITIES TO

1:58:45RESTRUCTURE OUR AGENDAS, WORK

1:58:46WITH OUR CHAIRS TO TRY TO GET AS

1:58:47MANY QUESTIONS FIGURED OUT AHEAD

1:58:51OF AGENDA SETTINGS, SO THAT THE

1:58:53CHAIRS COULD BE EMPOWERED TO GET

1:58:55THOSE AGENDAS SET UP IN A WAY

1:58:56THAT WOULD PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT

1:58:58MORE TIME CERTAIN FOR THOSE

1:58:59STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW,

1:59:04OFTENTIMES WAITING THEIR TURN TO

1:59:06PRESENT.

1:59:06AND I WENT INTO THAT MEETING

1:59:08WITH A SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION

1:59:09AND PROBLEM SOLVING, AND THE

1:59:12MAYOR WAS NOT REALLY RECEPTIVE

1:59:14TO THAT, SAID HE STOOD BY HIS

1:59:17LETTER, AND THAT HE WANTED TO

1:59:18PROCEED WITH HIS DIRECTIVE AS

1:59:22INITIATED.

1:59:23AND SO TO BE ABLE TO BE A

1:59:24PROFESSIONAL AND WORK THROUGH

1:59:25DIFFERENCES LIKE THI YOU NEED

1:59:27TO HAVE TWO WILLING PARTICIPANTS

1:59:29AT MINIMUM, AND I WASN'T

1:59:30EXPERIENCING THAT.

1:59:31AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW,

1:59:34WE'RE GIVING OUR ATTORNEYS

1:59:35PLENTY OF TIME FOR THIS.

1:59:36WE'RE ASKING FOR A REPORT BK

1:59:39EARLY NEXT YEAR.

1:59:40WE KNOW THAT IT'S A BUSY TIME

1:59:41RIGHT NOW.

1:59:42AND THIS IS SIMPLY AN

1:59:43EXPLORATION OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE.

1:59:46THIS IS NOT A LEGISLATIVECTION

1:59:49AS SUCH, BUT JUST TRYING TO

1:59:51UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK

1:59:52AT OTHER CITIES THAT DO HAVE

1:59:54THIS OVERSIGHT TL, YOU KNOW,

1:59:59WHAT ARE THE ORDINANCE OR

2:00:00CHARTER CHANGES THAT WOULD BE

2:00:01NECESSARY TO PROVIDE THAT TO US.

2:00:04SO, I JU WANTED TO SHARE THAT

2:00:06ADDITIONAL CONTEXT.

2:00:07>> NEXT IS UNCIL MEMBER

2:00:09WONSLEY.

2:00:10>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

2:00:13I ALSO WANTED TO JUST RESPOND TO

2:00:15ONE OF THE THINGS RAISED BY. I

2:00:17THINK IT WAS COUNCILMEMBER

2:00:19PALMISANO WHO NAMED THAT

2:00:20INFORMATION, SUCH AS LIKE WHAT

2:00:25WE'RE REQUESTING AND THE MODE OF

2:00:27ITS PRESENTATION THOSE THINGS

2:00:28SHOULD BE AVAILABLE SPECIFICALLY

2:00:29TO THE CITY AUDITOR WAS

2:00:30REFERENCED.

2:00:30AND I WANT TO NAME THAT THE CITY

2:00:32AUDITOR HAS ALSO EXPERIENCED

2:00:33CHALLENGES IN BEING ABLE TO

2:00:35ACCESS INFORMATION NEEDED TO

2:00:36CARRY OUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES

2:00:38FROM THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION AS

2:00:39WELL.

2:00:39THAT WAS NOTED IN SEVERAL

2:00:42REPORTS, PTICULARLY TIED TO

2:00:44THE DAVIS MATTURY AND ALLISON

2:00:50LUCIER, AFTER ACTION WHERE THE

2:00:50LACK OF COOPERATION THE LACK OF

2:00:51PROVISION OF INFORMATION LED TO

2:00:52THEM EVEN HAVING TO INCUR

2:00:56ADDITIONAL AND UNEXPECTED

2:00:57CHARGES RELATED TO THE CONTRACT

2:00:59THAT WAS HELPING CARRY OUT THAT

2:01:03SPECIAL REVIEW, THAT ESSENTIALLY

2:01:04SOUGHT OUT TO HELP THIS BODY TO

2:01:05FIGURE OUT HOW WE ACTUALLY WORK

2:01:06WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO

2:01:07BETTER RESPOND TO HATE CRIMES,

2:01:09AS IN WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO DAVIS

2:01:14MATURI HIMSELF, AND THE CITY'S

2:01:16NEGLIGENT RESPONSE AND ACTUALLY

2:01:16PROVIDG HIM THE SAFETY THAT HE

2:01:17WAS CALLING US TO PROVIDE, AND

2:01:18THAT HE PAYS TAXES FOR.

2:01:19SAME FOR ALLISON LUCIER, HOW WEE

2:01:23OR DO CORRECTIVE MEASURES TO

2:01:25SUPPORT FAMILIES OR SURVIVORS OF

2:01:27DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, BECAUSE OF

2:01:31THE ADMINISTRATION'S

2:01:34UNWILLINGNESS TO PROVIDE

2:01:35PROACTIVE INFORMATION, WE WERE

2:01:37DELAYED IN OUR ABILITY TO GET

2:01:39THAT INFORMATION THAT WE'RE EVEN

2:01:40MOVING ON AS OF RECENTLY JUST

2:01:41THIS -- THAT COUNCIL MEMBER

2:01:44CHAVEZ SPOKE OF IN HIS REPORT,

2:01:47THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADVANCE

2:01:50SOME OF THOSE RECMENDATIONS,

2:01:51SO WE CAN MAKE SURE SAFETY

2:01:52OUTCOMES ARE STRENGTHENED FOR

2:01:53OUR RESIDENTS.

2:01:54AND ON THE COUNT SIDE OF THAT,

2:01:57OR THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, I WOULD

2:01:59SAY, NOT THE COUNTER, ACTUALLY,

2:02:01I WOULD ARGUE IS ABSOLUTELY NOT

2:02:02RIDICULOUS AND IT'S NOT A WASTE

2:02:04OFIME FOR US TO BE ABLE TO

2:02:05HAVE STRONGER OVERSIGHT TOOLS

2:02:06AND GET INFORMATION.

2:02:07BECAUSE ACTUALLY WN THIS

2:02:09COUNCIL HAS BEEN ABLE TO FLEX

2:02:10THAT, WE'VE SEEN BETTER OCOMES

2:02:12HAPPEN FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

2:02:14I WANT TO NAME A FEWN EXAMPLE.

2:02:19THE STUDY THAT WE JUST TALKED

2:02:21ABT, WE HAD EXPECTED THAT OUR

2:02:22ADMINISTRATION TO BE DOING WHAT

2:02:24THEY NEED TO DO TO RECOUP THE

2:02:26COST OF FEES FOR PROGRAMS, SO

2:02:27THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN RECEIVE

2:02:29THEM AND BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS

2:02:30TO THE STAFF WHO HELP COORDINA

2:02:34THEM, BUT WE HAVE NOW LEARNED

2:02:34MANY TIMES OVER THAT THE FEES

2:02:35ARE NOT BEING ENFORCED IN THE

2:02:37WAYS THAT THEY SHOULD, AND THUS

2:02:38ARE RUNNING AT A DEFICIT THAT

2:02:41THEN PUTS THE BURDEN ON

2:02:42TAXPAYERS.

2:02:43A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF THAT, FOR

2:02:45INSTANCE, IS OFF DUTY.

2:02:46'VE BEEN ASKING THE MAYOR'S

2:02:47ADMINISTRATION FOR MULTIPLE,

2:02:49MULTIPLE DIRECTIVES THAT HAVE

2:02:50BEEN RESISTED TIME AND TIME

2:02:52AGAIN.

2:02:52AND ALSO FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION

2:02:54OF THE INFORTION THAT THEY

2:02:55FINALLY PRESENTED ON.

2:02:57AND INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY ENACTING

2:02:59THEIR OWN RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY

2:03:02HAVE ALLOWED TAXPAYERS TO HAVE

2:03:04TO STILL PAY ALMOST $2 MILLION

2:03:07TO SUBSIDIZE MPD OFFER SIDE

2:03:08GIGS.

2:03:09IF WE WERE ABLE TO TRULY FLEX

2:03:11OUR OVERSIGHT ARM ON THESE

2:03:13THINGS, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO

2:03:14GET INFORMATION ON HOW WE COULD

2:03:16TRULY KE THAT BURDEN OFF OF

2:03:19OUR RESIDENTS' SHOULDERS, AND

2:03:21THIS LETS US DO THAT.

2:03:24FEES, CKER FEES WHEN WE'RE

2:03:25TALKING ABOUT HOW DO WE FUND OUR

2:03:26CLIMATE EQUITY WORK, WE'VE HAD

2:03:27STRUGGLES WITH GETTING ACCURATE

2:03:28INFORMATION IN THAT.

2:03:29AS A MAJORITY LEADER MENTIONED,

2:03:32INACCURATE INFORMATION AO

2:03:34COSTS US TIME.

2:03:35IT DELAYS OUR ABILITY TO FUND

2:03:36THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE

2:03:37FUNDEDO MAKE SURE OUR

2:03:38RESIDENTS HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE

2:03:39AND HAVE SERVICES THAT TRULY

2:03:40ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THE THINGS

2:03:42THAT THEY NEED IN THIS CITY TO

2:03:45MAINTAINHEIR LIVELIHOODS, TO

2:03:46MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES, TO MAKE

2:03:48SURE THAT THEIR FAMILIES HAVE

2:03:49THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED.

2:03:51WHEN WE DON'T GET THE RIGHT

2:03:52INFORMATION, THAT JEOPARDIZES

2:03:53THEIR ABILITY TO HAVE A GOOD

2:03:54LIFE IN THIS CITY AS WELL.

2:03:55AND WE'VE SEEN THOSE OUTCOMES.

2:03:57BUT WHEN WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FLEX

2:03:58OUR OVERSIGHT, WE'VE BEEN ABLE

2:04:02TO CALL INTO QUESTION, VENDORS,

2:04:03PARTICULAR VENDORS AND CONTRACTS

2:04:04THAT SHOULD NOT BE GOING OUT

2:04:06WITH SPECIFIC ORGANIZATIONS.

2:04:11LIKE iRESCUE, FOR INSTANCE,

2:04:13WITH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY

2:04:13SAFETY, WE WERE ABLE TO CALL

2:04:15THAT INTO QUESTION AND NOW WE'RE

2:04:16ABOUT TO HAVE A CREDIBLE VENDOR

2:04:18THAT'S OFFERING SEXUAL

2:04:19TRAFFIC... OR ANTI-SEXUAL SEX

2:04:19TRAFFICKING SERVICES AT THE NEW

2:04:20SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY

2:04:21SAFETY CENTER.

2:04:22THAT'S BECAUSE THIS BODY AT THE

2:04:24OPPOSITION OF THE ADMINISTRATION

2:04:26CONSTANTLY PUSHED AND SAID, NO,

2:04:27THIS CANNOT BE ACCEPTABLE.

2:04:29BUIT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE

2:04:30THAT.

2:04:30AND THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT WE'RE

2:04:32ASKING FOR.

2:04:32GIVE US OTHER TOOLS IN ADDITION

2:04:34TO THE CITY AUDITOR, IN ADDITION

2:04:36TO THE VERY LIMITED ONES THAT WE

2:04:38HAVE NOW, TO BE ABLE TO GET

2:04:38ACCESS TO INFORMATION, SO THAT

2:04:39WE CAN DO OUR JOBS EFFECTIVELY,

2:04:42NOT JUST FOR US FOR THE SAKE OF

2:04:44US DOING IT, BUT FOR OUR

2:04:45RESIDENTS.

2:04:46E 400,000 PLUS RESIDENTS THAT

2:04:47WE COLLECTIVELY REPRESENT.

2:04:52>> THANK YOU.

2:04:52NEXT UP ISOUNCIL MEMBER

2:04:56SHAFFER.

2:04:58>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY, I

2:04:59TRIED TO MAKE A PRIORITY MOTION

2:05:00AND IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH SO I

2:05:01JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT.

2:05:03I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN

2:05:04SAID, YOU KNOW, I DON'T

2:05:05UNDERSTAND WHY ANY COUNCIL

2:05:07MEMBER WOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS.

2:05:09AND I THINK IT'S REALLY

2:05:09IMPORTANT FOR US AS A BODY NOT

2:05:10TO ASCRIBE MOTIVE AND NOT TO

2:05:14CRITICIZE EACH OTHER'S

2:05:14VIEWPOINTS IF THEY HAVE STATE

2:05:16THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE AGAINST

2:05:17SOMETHING.

2:05:18THANK YOU.

2:05:23>> ALL RIGHT.

2:05:23THANK YOU.

2:05:25YEAH, I WILL JUST NOTE I THINK

2:05:25THERE'S JUST LIKE AN ISSUE WITH

2:05:26THE FUNCTION OF SPEAKER

2:05:28MANAGEMENT, WHEN YOU HIT

2:05:30PRIORITY MOTION, IT WON'T

2:05:31AUTOMATICALLY MOVE TO IT WHEN WE

2:05:33HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN

2:05:34QUEUE, BUT I'LL BE MORE MINDFUL

2:05:35TO LOOK FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE.

2:05:38COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE.

2:05:42>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

2:05:42I FORGOT TO MENTION LAST TIME I

2:05:43WAS IN QUEUE AND COUNCIL MEMBER

2:05:44WONSLEY REMINDED ME OF THIS.

2:05:46THE AUDITOR HAS ALSO HAD

2:05:47CHALLENGES GETTING INFORMATION,

2:05:49AND HE'S ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN

2:05:51EXPLORING INDEPENDENTLY OF THIS,

2:05:53WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE, HE'S

2:05:55INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING

2:05:57SUBPOENA POWER FOR HIMSELF THAT

2:05:59WOULD GO BEYOND JUST THE

2:06:02ADMINISTRATION.

2:06:02BECAUSE IN SOME OF HIS WORK, HE

2:06:05DOES NEED TO WORK WITH PARTIES

2:06:06THAT ARE OUTSIDE O THE CITY

2:06:08ENTERPRISE, AND HIS AUTHORITY IS

2:06:09LIMITED TO THE CITY ENTERPRISE.

2:06:11AND WE SAW THIS COME UP MOST

2:06:15SPECIFICALLY DURING THE AFTER

2:06:16ACTION REVIEW OF THE KILLING OF

2:06:18ALLISON LÜSCHER, WHERE THE

2:06:20OFFICER THAT HE WAS HOPING TO

2:06:21INTERVIEW RETIRED PRIOR TO THE

2:06:24COMPLETION OF TH INVESTIGATION.

2:06:25AND AS NO LONGER AN EMPLOYEE,

2:06:29THAT INDIVIDUAL IS NO LONGER

2:06:31REQUIRED TO WORK WITH THE

2:06:32AUDITOR.

2:06:33AND SO I THINK THIS IS JUST,

2:06:36AGAIN, A GOOD GOVERNANCE

2:06:38TRANSPARENCY TOOL THAT WE SHOULD

2:06:39CERTAINLY GET A PROFESSIONAL

2:06:41OPINION FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S

2:06:42OFFICE ON HOW WE MIGHT UTILIZE

2:06:44SUCH TOOL.>> COUNCIL MEMBER CHA.

2:06:48>> THANK YOU, CHA CHOWDHURY,

2:06:50AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BIG

2:06:51THANK YOU TO THE AUTHORS OF THIS

2:06:54COUNL ACTION, AND I WANTED TO

2:06:58POINT MY COLLEAGUES TOWARDS THE

2:06:592026 SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY

2:07:01REVIEW AND BEST PRACTICE

2:07:03ADVISORY THAT WAS PROMOTED TO

2:07:07US... NOT PROMOTED TO US, BUT

2:07:08THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US VIA THE

2:07:09OFFICE OF THE CITY AUDITOR.

2:07:11AND I'M GOG TO READ A

2:07:12PROVISION ON THERE REGARDING THE

2:07:15PUBLIC SURVEILLANCE CONTRACT

2:07:15OVERSIGHT.

2:07:15WE DID NOT OBTAIN EVIDENCE THAT

2:07:18OVERSIGHT ACTIVITY SPECIFICAY

2:07:19RELATED TO CONTRACT PROVISIONS

2:07:20FOR DATA OWNERSHIP PERMITTED USE

2:07:22IN OTHER DATA STEWARDSH WERE

2:07:24OCCURRING ACROSS THE ENTERPRISE.

2:07:26FURTHER, THE DATA SECURITY

2:07:26REQUIREMENTS THAT OVERSIGHT

2:07:27WOULD ENFORCE WERE NOT

2:07:30STANDARDIZED BUT PER INDIVIDUAL

2:07:32CONTRACT.

2:07:32THIS PREVENTA RISK THAT THE

2:07:33CITY'S CONTRACT FOR CAMERA

2:07:35SERVICES OR CONTRACT OVERSIGHT

2:07:36WOULD NOALIGN WITH BEST

2:07:38PRACTICES.

2:07:39WE REQUESTED BUT WERE UNABLE TO

2:07:41OBTA A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF

2:07:42DATA SHARING AGREEMENTS, OR

2:07:44MEMORANDA OF UNDERSTANNG WITH

2:07:45FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT

2:07:46AGENCIES.

2:07:46AND I'LL REPEAT THAT PART.

2:07:49WE REQUESTED BUT WERE UNABLE TO

2:07:50OBTAIN.

2:07:50THIS ACTION IS A VERY EASY VOTE

2:07:52FOR ME BECAUSE IF THERE'S A

2:07:53REQUEST AND INFORMATION IS NOT

2:07:55BEING PROVIDED, THEN COUNCIL HAS

2:07:57A RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THAT

2:07:58INFORMATION THEMSELVES.

2:07:59SO EASY VOTE.

2:07:59BECAUSE WHEN I SEE AUDIT

2:08:01REPORTS, I SEE SO MUC RISK IN

2:08:03THESE AUDIT REPORTS FROM LACK OF

2:08:04INFORMATION BEING PROVIDED FROM

2:08:06THE ADMINISTRATION.I HOPE SINCES

2:08:08BEEN SHOWN TO THE BODY IN THE

2:08:11AUDIT COMMITTEE, THAT THAT HAS

2:08:13BEEN ADDRESSED BUT WHEN I SEE

2:08:15THE KIND OF REPORTS TO THE

2:08:16AUDIT COMMITTEE, I SEE RISK

2:08:18ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND I SEE

2:08:20INFORMATION NOT BEING PRESENTED

2:08:23WHEN IT SHOULD BE.

2:08:24SO I HOPE THAT THIS PASSES, AND

2:08:25I HOPE THAT WE FIND A WAY TO

2:08:27EVENTUALLY DO THI SO STUFF

2:08:28LIKE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN, WHICH

2:08:29IT CURRENTLY DOES IN MANY

2:08:31INSTANCES.

2:08:34>> THANK YOU.

2:08:34I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE IN

2:08:38DISCUSSION.

2:08:39WITH THAT MOTION TO AROVE,

2:08:41I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE

2:08:42ROLL.

2:08:45>> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE.

2:08:46>> AYE.

2:08:48>> WONSLEY.

2:08:48>> AYE.

2:08:49>> RAINVILLE.

2:08:50>> AYE.

2:08:52>> VETAW.

2:08:52>> AYE.

2:08:53>>SMAN.

2:08:53>> AYE.

2:08:55>> SHAFFER.

2:08:55>> NO.

2:08:57>> STEVENSON.

2:08:57>> AYE

2:08:59>> CHAVEZ.

2:08:59>> AYE.

2:09:01>> PALMISANO.

2:09:01>> AYE.

2:09:03>> VICE CHAIR CHUGHTAI.

2:09:04>> AYE.

2:09:07>> CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

2:09:07>> AYE.

2:09:08>> THERE ARE 10 AYES.

2:09:10>> THAT MOTION CARRIES.

2:09:13ALL RIGHT, MEMBERS, SEEING NO

2:09:15FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE US, AND

2:09:18WITH NO OBJECTION, I WILL

2:09:19DECLARE THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.

2:09:21[ GAVEL ]