2026-10-06 - Traffic Commission

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00:19>> All right. Hello everybody. Uh my name

00:21is Eric Wisman and this is Traffic

00:23Commission for Tuesday, October 6, 2026.

00:27It is now 5:33.

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01:20Uh, all right. Jackie, can you please

01:22call the role?

01:25>> Yes. Chair Weissman

01:27>> here.

01:28>> Councelor Say

01:31>> here.

01:32>> Lena Webb

01:33>> here.

01:34>> Lieutenant Holland

01:36>> here.

01:38>> And that's four present. And at this

01:40time, um, Assistant Chief Tierney is

01:42absent.

01:43>> Okay. Thank you. So, um, we have some

01:46prior business. uh some follow-ups from

01:50last month's meeting. So, could you

01:52please read item one?

01:55>> Yes. Item number one, request to change

01:57the effective days of the three loading

02:00zone 8 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. spaces at 2:31

02:03to 2:35 Holland Street from Monday to

02:06Saturday to Monday to Friday tabled from

02:09the 91206

02:11meeting.

02:12>> Okay. I think uh we received some

02:15communication on this item. Is that

02:17right, Jackie?

02:18>> Yes. So, I will just display on screen.

02:23So, the uh councelor Hart sent a

02:26follow-up email to share with the

02:28commissioners um about the question

02:31about the final business, which was

02:32Basma Cafe on Holland Street to ask if

02:35they had any Saturday deliveries, which

02:37she sent an email saying that she had

02:39spoken to them and they confirmed they

02:41do not have any deliveries on Saturdays.

02:43>> Okay.

02:46Um thank you. Uh any discussion on that?

02:51Okay. Uh and I think we also received uh

02:54some analysis that we asked for for from

02:59uh Director Renfred.

03:04Director Renfred, can you speak to this

03:07analysis? And Jackie, can you bring it

03:09up on the screen? Or Director Infred,

03:12can you bring it up on the screen?

03:16Hi. Sorry. Do you all see that analysis?

03:20>> Uh yes, we do. Now, can you This is uh

03:23really interesting. Can you walk us

03:25through this?

03:26>> Yes. So, what I have here is um on the

03:29top, this is the meter revenue by poll

03:32from February 1st until August 31st. And

03:35what I did was I took the meters that

03:36we're talking about and I just took the

03:39average of what they made, the total of

03:41what they made for seven months. Um, so

03:44per it's not a lot, you know, it's not a

03:47lot of money. So it's 46672,

03:50which includes the Park mobile and the

03:52pay by phone. Um, is not an average of

03:55$8.33 per meter per month. Um, so it's

04:00not a lot of money. Um and over here is

04:03the tickets issued and I took the

04:05average of all the tickets how many

04:07tickets were issued in that period and

04:10average tickets issued per month and

04:13these are me these are for meter

04:15violations. There was also a load one lo

04:18two loading zone violations

04:20um on this meter A35 and one loading

04:25zone on A40

04:28and three loading uh that was a total of

04:31three that was a total of the whole all

04:33all the meters in 7 months and then they

04:35had two one invalid inspection sticker

04:39those are all the tickets that were

04:40issued there. So from there I took three

04:43other meters in the area of Teal Square,

04:45A24, A29, A30 and I just averaged out

04:48what they were making and without the

04:50Park mobile and pay by phone which are

04:52pretty good amounts of money. You can

04:53see them here. They were averaging um

04:56around $36

04:59for the eight months. So it would be um

05:03$36 per meter per month. So, and this

05:08one was, you know, together with the

05:11Park Mobile 58.

05:13>> Okay.

05:13>> So,

05:14>> and so could you just describe what that

05:16zone is? The zone 81406.

05:21>> 81406 is the zone. That's the park

05:23mobile zone that they're in if you would

05:25by the app.

05:26>> But what what general area is that?

05:28>> These are the meters that we're talking

05:30about on Holland Street. Okay. The

05:32actual Holland Street meters. These are

05:34also on Holland Street, but not the

05:35meters in the not the same meters.

05:39These are not in this area.

05:42>> Does anybody have any questions for uh

05:45director on this data

05:48in discussion of this?

05:52I I did have a follow-up question like

05:56could you provide Oh, sorry,

05:58Commissioner Webb. Go ahead.

06:00>> Oh, I just raised it. Um I'm just

06:02wondering um is this um meant to assess

06:07how people are parking around the

06:09loading zone or um just in that area in

06:13general?

06:15>> Well, they had asked me, you know, this

06:17is the best I can do without a camera.

06:20>> So, I don't have a camera out there. So,

06:21I was just basing it on are people

06:23paying at the meters or if they're not

06:26paying then they should be getting

06:27tickets, right? But you don't see a lot

06:29of tickets being issued. So to me that

06:31means that there is availability.

06:33>> That's I looked at it. But you know

06:35again

06:36>> I'm not clairvoyant. I don't have a

06:38camera out there but based on this this

06:41is the best I could do. In a perfect

06:44world I would love to have a camera for

06:45out there but we'll see if that ever

06:47happens. That's expensive. So

06:50>> okay. And so, um,

06:54I'm gathering from what you just said,

06:56this is not a high amount of utilization

06:59of the meters from what you're saying.

07:01So, is that is that a correct

07:03interpretation?

07:04>> Yeah, the revenue on the payments are

07:06are low. The ticket issuance is average

07:09to low. Okay.

07:11>> Meters.

07:12>> So, not a ton of pressure on other

07:16meters in the area and the in the

07:18existing meters.

07:21Okay, thank you. Any further questions

07:25for director?

07:31Anybody else have any discussion on this

07:33item?

07:37Do we have anybody from the public?

07:43There is one person in the audience.

07:48I don't recognize the name.

07:50>> Okay. Um

07:54I I know that like uh Chief Tyranny

07:57isn't here, but I did I couldn't help

08:00but wonder with the fire in the area

08:04like what might have been the impact of

08:07a truck and like an unmanned truck in

08:09the loading zone. It's just uh you know

08:13something I was thinking about. Um, I

08:15don't know if anybody else has any other

08:17thoughts on this or if we're ready to

08:19take a vote on the

08:21uh on the item.

08:26No. Okay, Jackie, why don't we call the

08:28role on this?

08:32>> Okay,

08:34councelor say.

08:37>> Yes.

08:38>> So, wait, wait. Can we just read the the

08:40item and just like

08:41>> Can you read it because is it to approve

08:46removing the loading zone?

08:48>> Yeah, let's double check that.

08:49>> Yes,

08:50>> but only on Saturdays, right?

08:53>> Yeah.

08:54>> Yes. Can you confirm that you can see my

08:56screen again with the agenda?

09:01>> Yes, we can see it.

09:05>> I I can't see it for some reason.

09:10H

09:11>> what do you see on the screen?

09:12>> I see the uh chart the what Suzanne was

09:16just walking us through.

09:19>> Suzanne, is there a stop share option

09:22for you at the bottom?

09:24>> Yeah. Um yeah, share. You can see the

09:26the two screens there. You can go from

09:29Suzanne to Jackie's, but yeah.

09:33>> Oh, wow. Okay.

09:34>> Yeah,

09:34>> now I see it. Okay.

09:35>> Public. I don't know what the public is

09:37seeing. I think we're seeing Suzanne's

09:39screen.

09:41Suzanne,

09:42>> you might be seeing my just my blank

09:46screen my computer screen.

09:48>> Trying to figure out

09:49>> Yeah.

09:55>> Okay. I Hold on. Just changed the

09:58setting.

09:58>> Yeah, I just was going to do that, too.

10:00>> That multiple Yeah, multiple people

10:01could share at once. Um, okay. Can

10:04everyone see the agenda now?

10:06>> Yes.

10:10Okay. So, the item is

10:13on the screen.

10:15>> Yes.

10:18>> Okay. So, let's start again. Could you

10:20call the role please? J

10:22on it.

10:22>> Yes. Um and chair, if I may raise a

10:26point um that relates to the this item

10:29that was previously on the agenda.

10:33Uh so through the chair

10:35uh I did just want to highlight that

10:38the original request was for considering

10:42six metered six loading zone and metered

10:44spaces and currently this request will

10:49remove Saturdays only from three spaces

10:53closer to the businesses rather than the

10:56six spaces.

10:59Okay.

11:00>> Which from a regulation standpoint can

11:02be a little confusing to have three that

11:06are still in effect on Saturdays and

11:08three that are not.

11:12There could be other things to consider

11:14for that. Just wanted to point out from

11:15a regulation standpoint, we we would

11:18only be changing the regulations for the

11:203 meters from 231 to 235.

11:26>> Okay. Uh, could you call the roll,

11:28please?

11:30>> Yes.

11:31>> So, on that to make sure he understands.

11:34So, I'm hearing this is doable.

11:38>> It's tricky, but it's doable and the

11:42parking department is committing to

11:43doing this

11:45on Saturdays for these three meters.

11:50Yes. So yes, if it's approved then

11:54through the chair, if it's approved,

11:55then the parking department would update

11:57the signage for these three meters to

12:02reflect that the loading zone is only in

12:03effect Mondays to Fridays.

12:07>> Okay, I'm just trying to remember. Was

12:09that what we discussed last time? Were

12:12we only referring to three meter or

12:14three last time? Okay, just double

12:16checking. So, we voted on

12:21>> Yeah,

12:22>> we we rejected the lower uh the further

12:25down the street from those businesses

12:28>> change. So, that that is remaining

12:30Monday through Saturday. Correct.

12:34>> As it stands now, yes.

12:36>> Okay. Um, Director Renfred.

12:40>> Yes. Through the chair. Um, the reason

12:43that Jackie brought this up is because

12:46it is it may prove to be confusing to

12:49the other the other businesses in Teal

12:52Square. And as I recall at the Hollows

12:55especially, she said they never get

12:57deliveries on Saturday. So, I didn't

12:59know if that was something that you all

13:00could um try to change that at this

13:04point or do we have to come back and and

13:06do another vote for that? That's

13:09>> if this gets approved.

13:10>> Correct. Okay.

13:12Okay.

13:14>> Um,

13:17let's let's vote on this one.

13:23>> Okay. Yes. And just again through the

13:25chair as a point of clarification, I

13:28think if we vote on this item as it's

13:30written, then the other spaces because

13:33they're not on the agenda as an item to

13:36vote on, then we wouldn't discuss those

13:38this meeting.

13:40Gotcha.

13:41Okay. So, does anybody want a motion to

13:44consider? Okay. Go ahead.

13:45>> Sorry. Can I just have one more point of

13:48clarification? So, sorry. Um, so

13:49basically there are two loading zones in

13:51play, right? And the Saturday

13:57um item here would be one of the two

14:00loading zones on Saturday is three

14:04metered parking spaces.

14:08>> That's okay. Okay. Okay. I just I really

14:10did want to make sure that that I'm

14:12getting that. Okay. Okay.

14:14>> So So uh

14:18>> again this is more complicated counselor

14:22say

14:23>> oh please go ahead chair I'm just go

14:26ahead I'll hold the thought. Um

14:30>> no because from my recollection there

14:32were two items. one asking us to

14:34completely eliminate loading zones which

14:36we already voted on, right? And uh the

14:40majority voted no. So that item is not,

14:44you know, it's

14:47we're done with that item, right? And

14:49this is the other request and we were

14:52willing to meet them in the middle and

14:55do Saturday.

14:59Yeah. Or something. Oh, maybe this was

15:01this was the original request

15:04to eliminate Saturday.

15:06>> Okay.

15:07>> Okay. Right. So, there is

15:09>> So, so I guess the question is, is there

15:12a motion to amend this item to include

15:16all six spaces? No.

15:20I I'm just trying to I'm trying to

15:22understand like how we address uh the

15:26parking department's concern here. Um,

15:29>> maybe I'm not understanding it exactly.

15:31>> Okay. Yeah, chair. So now, um, I do have

15:35a question.

15:37Was the counelor counelor Hart's request

15:40to eliminate loading zones altogether

15:44on Saturday

15:47for all six uh, spots or was or just

15:52three?

15:54Cuz it's not specified here. Oh, no, no,

15:58no. It is 233 to 235. Okay, I love that

16:01folks answer.

16:04So, through the chair,

16:08the way that it was communicated, I

16:10believe in the letter was that the

16:12business's first choice or first like

16:15preference was to remove three of the

16:20spaces altogether from being loading

16:22zones. So, that would include Saturdays.

16:23they would revert back to full-time

16:25meters just every day of the week. And

16:27then

16:29for the other three set of meters, which

16:31is still on the agenda, to remove

16:33Saturdays.

16:35But I believe the letter also included

16:36that if the commission wouldn't consider

16:39removing the loading zone that was

16:40requested to be fully removed that they

16:43consider requesting Saturdays. However,

16:45because the request was for full removal

16:48and that one got voted no, that's not on

16:50the table anymore.

16:52So, as a yes, point of clarification

16:55from parking, just so that the

16:58commission is aware

17:00because the request was for full removal

17:03and the request to move Saturdays was

17:05kind of secondary to that. So, that was

17:08not on the agenda. I just wanted to

17:11highlight that

17:13three of the spaces would still be in

17:16effect on Saturdays as a loading zone,

17:18but then three would not be

17:20>> if approved.

17:22Okay.

17:23>> Yes.

17:24>> So, uh, with that in mind, would anybody

17:27like to make a motion to

17:33consider

17:35all six spaces being

17:38Monday through Friday, loading zone only

17:41Monday through Friday. So, change them

17:43from Monday through Saturday to Monday

17:45through Friday.

17:51Um

17:53yeah, through you uh Chair Wiseman, I

17:56would be okay with something like this.

17:57I'm just feel nervous about it because

18:01uh I don't remember us discussing three

18:05versus six like backup plan, right?

18:08Because the

18:10>> request was to remove all the zones,

18:13right, on Saturday. Correct. Maybe we

18:17should vote on this and then if somebody

18:20would like to change the other three

18:22spaces, we would consider that in the

18:24future.

18:24>> Yeah. They can submit it as a separate

18:26item. Uh yeah, because let's say there's

18:30a new business, you know, next month or

18:33you know in few months and has a

18:36delivery on Saturday, then we have to go

18:38back and change this. So again only

18:42because this is how the item was

18:44submitted.

18:46I would feel nervous making amendments

18:48without uh businesses especially

18:52councelor heart being here

18:54>> okay

18:54>> to speak to it and an item can always be

18:57submitted. You're right um chair for the

19:01other three. All right, Commissioner W.

19:04>> I agree. Um, I think that, you know, we

19:08can know right now people are just

19:10saying we never get any weekend

19:13deliveries and I think a good middle

19:15ground would be to keep one loading zone

19:18for the weekend for the Saturday. Um,

19:21and then see how it goes. Um, if we get

19:25good compliance, you know, I would want

19:27to make sure that of a day that you do

19:30get a a delivery on a Saturday, they're

19:33not blocking the firehouse. Um, so I

19:36think a good in between is having, you

19:38know, three extra metered parking on a

19:40Saturday

19:41for business uh patrons and then

19:45maintaining that loading zone at least

19:46for now until we can look at behavior.

19:51Okay.

19:54Thank you. All right. So, Jackie, could

19:57you uh call the role on item one,

19:59please?

20:00>> Yes. Item number one, request to change

20:02the effective days of the three loading

20:04zone 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. spaces at 2:31 to

20:062:35 Holland Street from Monday to

20:08Friday to Monday to Sat No, so sorry,

20:10from Monday to Saturday to Monday to

20:12Friday.

20:14And councelor Say,

20:16>> yes,

20:17>> Lena Webb,

20:18>> yes.

20:20Lieutenant Holland,

20:22>> yes.

20:23>> Chair Weissman,

20:24>> no.

20:26>> And that's three yes and one no. So, the

20:28item is approved.

20:30>> Great. On to new business. Uh Jackie,

20:34can you please read item number two?

20:36>> Yes. Item number two, approval of the

20:38minutes from the September 1st, 2026

20:41traffic commission meeting.

20:44>> All right. Any discussion on this item?

20:50Okay. Uh, Jackie, can you call the role

20:53on this, please?

20:54>> Yes. Councelor Say,

20:56>> yes.

20:57>> Lena Webb,

20:58>> yes.

20:59>> Lieutenant Holland,

21:00>> yes.

21:01>> Chair Weissman,

21:03>> yes.

21:04>> And that's four. Yes. And the item is

21:06accepted.

21:08>> Item number three, please.

21:11>> Item number three, request for an

21:13accessible parking space at 35 Century

21:15Street. Any discussion on this item?

21:20>> Uh through the chair. I'll just share

21:22that this was a an application from a

21:24resident to have an accessible parking

21:25space in front of their home. Staff

21:27reviewed the application and everything

21:29was in order and it's recommended for

21:30approval.

21:31>> And this is a new space, not a

21:35>> Okay.

21:36>> Um All right. Let's call the role,

21:37please.

21:40>> I I had a question. um you said related

21:44I mean related but not two3 this

21:47specific spot when we um review these

21:50applications

21:52um do we uh take into consideration if

21:57uh the resident has a driveway or not

22:03>> uh through the chair yes that's a

22:05question on the application

22:07um and then I would say there's

22:09typically several mitigating factors is,

22:12you know, does the property have a

22:13driveway, but does the resident have

22:14access? Um, a lot of times we hear that

22:17a driveway is not accessible, it's not

22:19wide enough or it's further from their

22:21front door than parking in front. So,

22:24yes, we do ask that um information, but

22:28sometimes the yes or no then has a few

22:30mitigating factors. If I recall, this t

22:32this applicant is a tenant that does not

22:34have access to the driveway.

22:37>> Okay, thank you. just because we get

22:39these um requests a lot and um yeah it's

22:45I just as a counselor I get um I got

22:49this question from a constituent

22:51um yeah can I just get I have a driveway

22:54but I just want one in front of my house

22:57can I get one um and they said you apply

23:01but yeah okay thank you good to know

23:04>> one thing I've learned also is that

23:06sometimes you do have a driveway But um

23:08the you know things that you need to

23:10unload and load from your car can't be

23:12done in a narrow driveway. So like

23:14loading a mobility device unloading a

23:18mobility device might not be able to fit

23:20even in a driveway. Something I've

23:23learned.

23:24>> Yeah. Thank you for sharing that to the

23:26chair.

23:27>> Uh okay. Uh any further discussion?

23:33Right. Jackie, can you call please?

23:37Yes. And I'm sorry for the barking. I'm

23:40dogsitting

23:42and I cannot figure out why she's

23:43barking, but I also cannot ask her to

23:44stop.

23:45>> It's not coming for me, unfortunately.

23:47>> Oh, okay. Perfect. It's loud in here.

23:50Um, yes. I will call the role. Thank

23:52you. Uh, councelor say,

23:54>> yes.

23:55>> Lena Webb,

23:56>> yes.

23:57>> Lieutenant Holland,

23:58>> yes.

23:59>> Chair Weissman,

24:00>> yes.

24:02>> And that's four. Yes. And the item is

24:03approved.

24:04>> All right. Item four, please.

24:07>> Item number four, request for a fire

24:09lane on the odd side of Eustace Street

24:11from Beacon Street to approximately 48

24:14ft south of Beacon Street.

24:18>> Jackie, can you bring up the letter?

24:22>> Yes, this is the letter that Chief Wayne

24:25submitted to the commission.

24:27>> All right, great. Any discussion on this

24:31item?

24:39Okay. Uh,

24:42seeing none, Jackie, can you call the

24:44role, please?

24:51>> Yes. Uh, councelor say,

24:54>> yes.

24:54>> Lean web,

24:57>> yes.

24:58>> Lieutenant Holland,

24:59>> thank you.

25:00>> Yes.

25:01>> Chair Weissman,

25:02>> yes.

25:03And that's four. Yes. And the items

25:05approved.

25:07>> Okay. Great. Thank you. All right. Now,

25:10item five. I believe we have somebody

25:14from mobility division to present.

25:20>> Um yes, chair. Um Justin Shriber, senior

25:23transportation planner for mobility. Um

25:27I'm presenting on

25:29two items um that came out of our

25:34coordination with the Summerville

25:35Council on Aging. Um so I can start with

25:38the first one.

25:46>> Okay.

25:48Um Justin before we got started just

25:50want to say for the record that they

25:51have to leave uh to make sure there's

25:54quorum in the school building facilities

25:56and maintenance meeting right now. And

25:58uh I just wanted to ask is

26:00thisformational or uh is this

26:03recommended for uh approval?

26:07>> Uh we're we're seeking approval.

26:08>> We're seeking approval. Okay.

26:10>> Yeah.

26:10>> If I don't come back is that any needed

26:13there? if I do. Um,

26:17yeah, we'll try to look at the slides.

26:19Thank you.

26:21>> And just to the chair, we we'll be okay

26:23on quorum as long as no one else leaves,

26:26then we'll we'll have

26:27>> Right. Thank you.

26:33Right.

26:36Um, folks can see my screen, can see the

26:38the PowerPoint presentation. Want to

26:40double check. Okay, great. Um thank you

26:43chair, thank you traffic commission

26:44members. Uh so the first item is on

26:47Winsow Street. Um we

26:50received a request from the residents of

26:52Champa Manor and we ended up having uh

26:56two meetings with them over the last

26:57couple of months. Uh mobility staff went

27:00to their coffee hour to talk about

27:03regulations on Winslow A. Um, and there

27:07were a couple different options

27:08presented, but we really just landed on

27:11um extending the accessible parking

27:14regulation so that it fits three

27:16vehicles instead of two and a half. Um,

27:20it seems like now they're they're sort

27:21of trying to squeeze in three vehicles,

27:23but they don't quite fit between the

27:25signs. And then we did have this sort of

27:28odd loading zone at 50 ft and change. Um

27:33it's primarily for the deliveries but

27:36also the operations staff of CHA to get

27:39access to the building. Um we think our

27:42standard 40ft loading zone will work. Uh

27:44the CHA staff at the needing agreed. So

27:48really just uh I can flip back and forth

27:50here. We're just shifting the

27:52regulations. We get a full three space

27:54accessible parking spaces. And then this

27:57also is like a I would call like a

27:59legacy loading zone. It's a different

28:01sign than we used today. It's 30

28:03minutes. It's 7:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.

28:06So, the intent is to update the time

28:09from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. and then use

28:12the standard loading zone language that

28:14we use around the city now. So, 5 minute

28:17for passenger vehicles, 20 minute for

28:19commercial vehicles.

28:23And that is that item.

28:25>> Any discussion on this one? Any

28:29questions for

28:32Justin here?

28:35Justin, um when you met with the the

28:38residents, was there any concern? I

28:41assume there was a concern if there if

28:42they're on board with this, but um that

28:44like the 30 minute drop off allowed for

28:47somebody to help somebody with mobility,

28:50like a pickup and drop off a

28:52>> family member or something like that.

28:56Um, no. They they're actually their main

28:58concern was it it doesn't get enforced

29:02enough and they have complaints about

29:06specific residents or neighbors using it

29:08all, you know, for too long. And we talk

29:10through how it's much easier for the

29:12parking department to enforce a shorter

29:14time limit. And we don't do 30-minute

29:16loading zones in most places because

29:19they're much more difficult to enforce.

29:21Um so it was sort of agreed upon that

29:24this would be better enforced and really

29:27was about delivery and the the vehicles

29:30to service the building. They also have

29:31move in and move out um which I think

29:34you know informally did take place in

29:36this loading zone was longer than 30

29:38minutes and you know you can't really

29:41get the loading zone permit or sorry the

29:42movein permit for a loading zone. So, we

29:44talked about if folks needed to have a

29:47larger truck for a move in move out

29:48using the metered spaces or the permit

29:50parking um to get that uh the moving

29:53permit from the parking department.

29:56>> Okay.

29:56>> Yeah.

29:58Uh any further discussion?

30:03>> All right. Uh Justin, do you want to

30:05present the next part?

30:07>> Sure. Um so this is up uh sort of more

30:11directly in front of the the Council on

30:13Aging which is located at the TUS

30:14Administrative Building along with a

30:16number of other um city departments and

30:19school offices. Um so and we're

30:23referring to the permit parking here in

30:25green

30:26um and we're proposing to convert it

30:29here to two-hour except by permit

30:32back when mobility implemented the

30:35Holland Street project. Um

30:39it was a request of the council and

30:41aging to make this parking permit only.

30:45Um typically on our commercial streets,

30:48arterial streets, um we almost always

30:50you will see two parking except by

30:53permit where you don't see parking

30:54meters or some other regulation. So

30:56streets like college a Broadway

30:59um island a Somerville a you know most

31:02of the commercial streets it's 2-hour

31:04parking except by permits. So folks with

31:07permits can park um for longer periods

31:10and then you know anyone can park for

31:12free for 2 hours. So again back when we

31:15implemented the Holland Street project

31:18there was a request from the council on

31:19aging to keep this as permit only. The

31:23idea being sort of trying to reserve it

31:25more for Somerville seniors accessing

31:28programming at the Council on Aging. Um

31:31but more recently they reached out to

31:33mobility and requested that we go back

31:37to a regulation that allows um visitors

31:40that don't have permits to park here. Um

31:43the tab parking lot is split up amongst

31:45many different departments and I think

31:47there were some issues with folks using

31:49the visitor parking spaces designated

31:51for the council on aging. Um they also

31:54have like vendors that come in for set

31:56number of hours and they don't want the

31:58vendors parking in the visitor spaces

32:00for for people coming for the programs.

32:04Um but the vendors were saying we you

32:06know we don't have permits so we can't

32:07park on the street either. Um, so you

32:11know, they're looking just to open this

32:13up so that folks that do not have a

32:14permit, such as anyone seeking services

32:17from out that doesn't live in

32:18Somerville, but also the vendors that

32:20come to the council on aging can use

32:22this parking too. And um, you know,

32:25Mobility recommends it again because

32:27this is what we have in place on on

32:29every commercial arterial street where

32:32we don't have parking meters and such.

32:33So yeah, and then the just showing what

32:37would exist between these two

32:38regulations but not proposing to change

32:39that.

32:43>> Any discussion on this?

32:47All right,

32:51>> Jackie, can you call the role on these

32:53items?

32:58Yes, I believe. Okay, counselor say did

33:03leave. Um, so Lena Webb,

33:05>> so

33:06>> yes,

33:08>> go for it.

33:10>> Uh, Lieutenant Holland,

33:12>> yes.

33:13>> Chair Weissman,

33:15>> yes.

33:16>> And that's three. Yes. And item number

33:18five is approved.

33:21>> Okay. Uh, do I have a motion to adjourn

33:25the meeting?

33:28>> I'll make a motion.

33:31>> All right. Do we need a second? I

33:32forget.

33:34>> I I'll second.

33:35>> All right. We have a second. Jackie, can

33:37you call the role, please?

33:39>> Yes. Lena Webb,

33:41>> yes.

33:42>> Lieutenant Holland,

33:43>> yes.

33:44>> Chair Weissman,

33:46>> yes.

33:47>> And that's three. Yes. And the meeting

33:49is adjourned.

33:51Thanks everybody. Good night.