2026-10-15 - Government Operations Committee

09:42OPERATIONS.

09:43>> TODAY IS OCTOBER 15TH 2026

09:46AND THE EXACT TIME IS 1006.

09:48IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER TWO

09:49OF THE ACT OF 2025 MODIFYING

09:51CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS OF THE

09:52OPEN MEETING LAW AND RELIEVING

09:53PUBLIC BODIES OF CERTAIN

09:55REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING THE

09:56REQUIREMENT THAT PUBLIC BODIES

09:57CONDUCT ITS MEETINGS IN A

09:58PUBLIC PLACE THAT IS OPEN AND

10:00PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE

10:01PUBLIC.

10:01THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE

10:02CONDUCTING THIS HEARING

10:03VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.

10:04THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED

10:06AND IT IS ALSO BEING LIVE

10:07STREAMED AT BOSTON.GOV/CITY

10:09COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST

10:12ON XFINITY CHANNEL EIGHT, RCN

10:13CHANNEL 82 AND FIOS CHANNEL 964

10:15.

10:16WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO

10:17THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT

10:19[email protected].

10:20AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE

10:21RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL

10:22COUNCILORS.

10:23PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN

10:25AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.

10:26INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON

10:27IN ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED

10:29UP AND WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO

10:30TESTIFY.

10:31IF YOU WISH TO SIGN UP FOR

10:32PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND HAVE NOT

10:33DONE SO, PLEASE EMAIL OUR

10:34CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON MEGAN

10:37CAVANAUGH AT NEGA.

10:40AND [email protected] FOR THE

10:44ZOOM LINK IN YOUR NAME WILL BE

10:46ADDED TO THE LIST.

10:47JUST AS A HEADS UP FOR CENTRAL

10:49STAFF WE DO HAVE TWO

10:51PRERECORDED PUBLIC TESTIMONY

10:53VIDEOS THAT WE HAVE TO PLAY.

10:56IF WE CAN PLAY THOSE BEFORE WE

10:58DO PUBLIC TESTIMONY I THINK

11:00THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

11:01UM OKAY SO TODAY'S HEARING IS

11:02ON DOCKET 0807 AN ORDINANCE TO

11:06ADDRESS PRIVATE WAY POTHOLES.

11:08THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY

11:10COUNCILORS BRIAN WORRELL AND

11:11AARON MURPHY AND WAS REFERRED

11:13TO THE COMMITTEE ON APRIL 15TH,

11:142026.

11:15TODAY I AM JOINED BY MY

11:17COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL

11:18COUNCILOR FLYNN

11:20COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE AND

11:20COUNCIL AS WELL.

11:22BUT FOR NOW BEFORE WE GO TO UM

11:25THE THE PANEL UH ALL RIGHT,

11:28CITY ADMIN EXCUSE ME OUR

11:30SUPERINTENDENT OF STREET

11:31OPERATIONS DANIEL NEE I'LL GO

11:32TO THE LEAD SPONSOR FOR ANY

11:34OPENING REMARKS YOU MAY HAVE.

11:35UH, COUNCIL ORAL YOU HAVE THE

11:36FLOOR.

11:37UH THANK YOU.

11:37CHAIR.

11:38THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING

11:39HERE.

11:39UH, GOOD TO SEE YOU,

11:40SUPERINTENDENT.

11:41ME?

11:41UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE

11:43TO THE CITY OF BOSTON AND ALL,

11:44UM, OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK UH

11:48INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK UM,

11:49ALONGSIDE OF YOU.

11:51UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I

11:54KNOW A LOT OF OTHER COUNCILORS

11:55,UM, HAVE, UH, BROUGHT UP

11:59AROUND HOW DO WE GET MORE

12:01SERVICES AND RESOURCES TO HELP

12:03THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ARE LIVING

12:05ON PRIVATE WAVES?

12:07UH, A LOT OF RESIDENTS BUY INTO

12:10PRIVATE WAYS NOT KNOWING THAT

12:11THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE NOT ONLY

12:13FOR THE RESURFACING OF THE

12:16STREETS, SIDEWALKS BUT

12:18EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE GROUND

12:20AND BRINGING IT UP TO CODE UH,

12:22WHICH COULD INCLUDE STREET

12:24LIGHTS.

12:25UM, AND THAT COST CAN BE UP TO

12:29UM, SIX FIGURES UM FOR

12:31RESIDENTS.

12:32SO WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO FIND

12:33WAYS ON HOW TO MAKE THESE ROADS

12:36THAT ARE USED BY MORE THAN THE

12:38INDIVIDUALS THAT WE LIVE ON THE

12:40STREET.

12:41UM.

12:43EASIER TO USE UM AND RESURFACE

12:46AND BRING THEM A LITTLE BIT

12:47MORE RELIEF, UH, TO THEIR

12:49PRIVATE WAYS.

12:50I KNOW THAT CURRENTLY THERE IS

12:52A CITY CODE THAT SAYS THAT YOU

12:54KNOW, WE COULD DO SOME

12:55PATCHWORK.

12:55UM, THIS POINT IT JUST AIMS TO

12:59ADD UH, THE WORD ASPHALT UH,

13:02INTO THAT UM UM UM, TEMPORARY

13:05FIX THAT CITY EMPLOYEES CAN

13:07CURRENTLY DO.

13:08BUT I WILL ALSO BE LOOKING TO

13:09SEE IF ASPHALT IS THE MOST COST

13:13EFFECTIVE WAY KNOWING THAT

13:14THESE POTHOLES WILL COME BACK

13:17UP TO BE RESURFACED YEAR OVER

13:19YEAR.

13:20SO I'D LOVE TO UH, YOU KNOW,

13:22HAVE EVERYONE THOUGHTS I KNOW A

13:24CONVERSATION AROUND THE CONSENT

13:26DECREE JUST GOT BROUGHT TO ME.

13:28SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO

13:30BRINGING, UM EVERYONE START

13:33TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT KIND

13:34OF RELIEF WE COULD DO HERE ON A

13:36CITY LEVEL TO RESIDENTS WHO

13:38ARE, UM, BEING PLAYED WITH

13:41STREETS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN

13:42FIXED UM, FOR YEARS.

13:45UH, SO THANK YOU CHAIR.

13:46THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS

13:47BEEN HERE.

13:48AND YOU GUYS.

13:49ALL COUNCILOR FLYNN, YOU HAVE

13:51THE FLOOR.

13:57BUT THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

13:59THANK YOU TO.

14:01COUNCILOR WORRELL FOR BRINGING

14:02THIS FORWARD CRITICAL ISSUE

14:06QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.

14:08THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE

14:10SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON

14:13ESPECIALLY ON THE CITY

14:15COUNCIL ITS UM QUALITY OF LIFE

14:17BASIC CITY SERVICES.

14:18I'M ALSO WORKING WITH CHINATOWN

14:21RESIDENTS ON ALTHOUGH IT'S

14:23SOMEWHAT ON AN UNRELATED BUT

14:25IT'S MORE OF A WATER AND SEWER

14:26ISSUE AND CHINATOWN AS IT

14:29RELATES TO UM, PRIVATE ALLEYS.

14:31BUT THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES

14:34AS IT RELATES TO MAKING SURE WE

14:35FIX UM, POTHOLES, PROVIDE UM,

14:39BASIC CITY SERVICES THE BEST WE

14:40CAN.

14:41UM THANK YOU COUNCIL OVERALL

14:43FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND

14:46UM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE

14:47DISCUSSION.

14:48THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

14:48THANK YOU COUNCILOR FLYNN.

14:50COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.

14:52GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND

14:54GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE.

14:55THANK YOU TO COUNCIL OUT FOR

14:56THIS FILING.

14:57WE'VE HAD A LOT

14:59OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PRIVATE

14:60WAYS.

15:00WE'VE HAD THEM HERE IN HYDE

15:01PARK.

15:02SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO THE

15:03CONVERSATION TO SEE WHAT

15:04OF STEPS CAN ACTUALLY BE DONE.

15:06I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT

15:07OF BACK AND FORTH IN TERMS

15:08OF LIKE WHAT'S POSSIBLE IS NOT

15:09POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE

15:10ARE DRAINAGE ISSUES.

15:11LOOKING FORWARD TO THE

15:12CONVERSATION.

15:13THANK YOU.

15:15THANK YOU.

15:15>> WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY

15:16COUNCILOR FITZGERALD

15:17COUNCILOR SHELDON FOR.

15:19THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU

15:21TO COUNCIL.

15:22UH, A LOT OF, UH, ALLEYWAYS AND

15:23PRIVATE WAYS ON THE SOUTH END

15:25AND WE GET THIS EVERY SO OFTEN.

15:26SO, UH.

15:26LOOKING FORWARD TO.

15:27LEARN WHAT CAN BE DONE AND HOW

15:29WE CAN CHANGE IT IN THE FUTURE.

15:30UH, APPRECIATE IT COMING

15:31FORWARD.

15:31THANK YOU.

15:32CHAIR.

15:32THANK YOU.

15:33I JUST WANT TO THANK THE THE

15:35FILER AS WELL.

15:36I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS

15:37CONVERSATION I HAD YOU JUST

15:38HAVE AND OBVIOUSLY I LOVE THE

15:39IDEA OF THIS I HAVE SOME

15:41QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GALLERY AND

15:43OWNERSHIP AND LIABILITY.

15:45SO UM.

15:46LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION

15:47AND AND SEEING HOW WE CAN MAKE

15:48THIS A REALITY.

15:49CHARLESTOWN IN PARTICULAR IS

15:50JUST AT THE A LOT OF PRIVATE

15:53WAYS THAT WERE HORSE CARRIAGE

15:55UM THAT UH WHOLE UM UH JUST

15:59AVENUES I GUESS I DON'T EVEN

16:00KNOW THE RIGHT WORD FOR IT BUT

16:01JUST WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH

16:02THIS IN CHARLESTOWN AND EAST

16:04BOSTON AND UM, LOOK FORWARD TO

16:06UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CAN MAKE

16:07THIS A REALITY.

16:07BUT FOR NOW WE'LL GO TO

16:09SUPERINTENDENT LEE FOR ANY

16:10OPENING REMARKS HE MAY HAVE AND

16:11THEN WE'LL GO TO QUESTIONS.

16:12SO, UM, DANIEL, YOU HAVE THE

16:14FLOOR.

16:15THANK YOU COUNCILOR.

16:16THANK YOU COUNCILORS.

16:17UH, HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO

16:19ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

16:20UM, REGARDING UH.

16:23UH.

16:24>> PRIVATE WAYS TO THE BEST

16:25OF MY ABILITY UM, AS A PRIVATE

16:29WAY RESIDENT UM, SINCE.

16:311978 I FEEL A LOT OF THE PAIN

16:33GOING ON, BUT, UM, HAVE A TON

16:36OF INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME.

16:37HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

16:38THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE.

16:41THANK YOU SO MUCH.

16:42AND JUST A.

16:42>> QUICK QUESTION.

16:43ARE YOU, UM ON THE PICK?

16:46I AM NOT NO.

16:47OKAY.

16:47>> ALL RIGHT.

16:48I JUST WANTED TO SEE BECAUSE I

16:49THINK A LOT.

16:49>> OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE MAY

16:51INVOLVE THE PICK BUT YEAH I

16:53DID.

16:53>> I DID ABOUT FOUR HOURS

16:54OF PREP WITH THE PICK YESTERDAY

16:56SO.

16:56OKAY GREAT.

16:57GREAT.

16:58>> I'M NOT AN EXPERT.

16:59I HAVE NEWFOUND KNOWLEDGE THAT

17:00I'M WILLING TO SHARE.

17:02OKAY GREAT.

17:03ALL RIGHT.

17:04>> UM.

17:04>> SO WE'LL JUST GO TO.

17:05>> THE LEAD SPONSOR FOR UM,

17:07QUESTIONS AND WE'LL DO SIX.

17:09>> MINUTES OF QUESTIONS FOR

17:10EACH.

17:10WHEN, UM, I PUT MY HAND UP.

17:12THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE ONE

17:14MINUTE.

17:14UM, BUT FOR NOW I'LL JUST.

17:15>> GO.

17:16TO COUNCILOR WORRELL.

17:20THANK YOU.

17:21CHAIR.

17:21UM THANK.

17:22>> YOU SUPERINTENDENT.

17:23ANY NEW QUESTIONS CURRENTLY

17:25RIGHT NOW.

17:26>> WHAT TYPE OF TEMPORARY

17:27REPAIRS?

17:27WHAT ANY REPAIRS DO WE

17:30CURRENTLY.

17:30DO ON PRIVATE WORKS?

17:32UM, SO TEMPORARY REPAIRS IT

17:34USUALLY GETS LISTED AS A

17:36POTHOLE.

17:36UM.

17:37IT YOU KNOW, I THINK INTERNALLY

17:39WE SEPARATE POTHOLES FROM

17:41ROADWAY DEFECTS.

17:42POTHOLE IS A TYPE OF A ROADWAY

17:43DEFECT.

17:44BUT, UM, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOUR

17:46OFFICES REACH OUT TO US AND

17:47WE'RE ABLE TO GO OUT.

17:49UM, WE TEND TO USE ASPHALT.

17:51UH, WE TEND TO USE LIKE, UH,

17:53MATERIALS.

17:54SO IF IT'S AN ASPHALT PRIVATE

17:56WAY WE WILL USE ASPHALT.

17:58UM UH OTHER PLACES IF IT'S

18:00GRAVEL WE WILL USE GRAVEL OR

18:02UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CLEANED

18:04MAILINGS FROM WHEN WE RESURFACE

18:05YOU TAKE THE UM THE ASPHALT

18:08THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED AND THEY

18:09,YOU KNOW, SCREED IT AND TAKE

18:11OUT LARGER CHUNKS AND WE CAN

18:12USE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TRY TO

18:15MATCH LIKE MATERIAL EXISTING

18:17MATERIAL.

18:18GOT IT.

18:18>> AND I KNOW, UH, THIS

18:20ORDINANCE IS CALLING FOR, YOU

18:23KNOW, FILLING THE POTHOLES.

18:26UM, I'VE TALKED TO A FEW

18:27DIFFERENT, UM, UH, EMPLOYEES

18:31FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND YOU KNOW,

18:33THEY'RE YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE

18:34ARE SAYING WELL, YOU KNOW,

18:35WE'LL HAVE TO REFILL THE

18:37POTHOLES EVERY OTHER YEAR,

18:39RIGHT?

18:39UM, WHAT WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT

18:41AROUND FILLING THAT POTHOLE

18:44VERSUS RESURFACING THE STREET

18:46JUST ALTOGETHER?

18:49SO ON CITY STREET RESURFACING

18:50IS THE MUCH BETTER OPTION,

18:52RIGHT?

18:53UM, TYPICALLY THERE'S AN

18:54UNDERLYING PROBLEM THAT'S

18:55CAUSING THE POTHOLE OR ROADWAY

18:57DEFECTS.

18:58UM.

18:59>> AS IT PERTAINS TO PRIVATE

19:01WAYS WHERE THERE HAS BEEN, YOU

19:03KNOW, MINIMAL MAINTENANCE

19:05THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

19:07UM, YOU KNOW, WATER IS THE

19:08NUMBER ONE SOURCE, THE NUMBER

19:10ONE PROBLEM, UH, WHERE THERE'S

19:11ANY TYPE OF DRAINAGE OR RUNOFF

19:13UM, LACK OF CATCH BASINS ON

19:15PRIVATE WAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND

19:18WHOEVER YOU SPOKE TO WAS WAS

19:20100% RIGHT.

19:21YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE THERE'S

19:22THE LIST OF ALLEYS THAT WE HIT

19:23KIND OF EVERY YEAR AND THE SAME

19:25ONES THE SAME SPOTS.

19:26UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS AREN'T

19:28HAPPY WITH JUST A BAND-AID

19:30REPAIR BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW,

19:31UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THERE IS A

19:33STATE LAW UM, I KNOW

19:35COUNCILOR APOLOGIST UH,

19:36REFERRED TO IT BUT THERE IS A

19:37STATE LAW THAT, UH, PROHIBITS

19:39US FROM USING PUBLIC FUNDS ON

19:41PRIVATE PROPERTY AND

19:42TECHNICALLY, UH, PRIVATE WAY IS

19:44PRIVATE PROPERTY.

19:46HOWEVER, IN THE INTEREST

19:47OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, YOU KNOW,

19:50WE WE WILL GOD FORBID WE

19:52WOULDN'T WANT A LADDER TRUCK OR

19:53AN AMBULANCE TO NOT BE ABLE TO

19:55GET SOMEWHERE BECAUSE OF, YOU

19:56KNOW, UM, BAD ROADWAYS.

19:59SO THAT'S THE.

20:00UH.

20:01>> HOW WE FEEL COMFORTABLE

20:04POTENTIALLY ACTUALLY BREAKING A

20:05LAW AND DOING REPAIRS.

20:07UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO, UH

20:10,BE ARRESTED FOR THAT AT SOME

20:11POINT IF NEED BE, BUT YOU KNOW.

20:15IDEALLY WE WOULD WANT

20:17RESURFACING A FULL RECORD

20:18OF ALL THESE YOU KNOW, THESE

20:19ROADWAYS HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED,

20:20YOU KNOW, SINCE THE 1800S.

20:22UM, IDEALLY YOU WOULD LIKE TO

20:25HAVE FULL RECONSTRUCTION.

20:27BUT AGAIN IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY

20:30SO THAT'S WHERE WE THAT THAT'S

20:31WHERE THE THE ISSUE LIES.

20:33GOT IT.

20:34>> AND I MEAN I'VE RECEIVED.

20:36UH A LOT OF UH EMAILS AND HEARD

20:39A LOT OF COMPLAINTS UH FROM

20:41RESIDENTS WHEN RESIDENTS.

20:42IF THEY WERE TO.

20:43AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IF

20:45THEY WERE TO RESURFACE THE

20:48STREET THEN THEY HAVE TO DO NOT

20:50ONLY RESURFACING ON THE STREET

20:51BUT BRINGING THAT STREET UP TO

20:53CODE.

20:55SO I THINK SO THAT'S PART

20:57OF THAT UH BRINGING IT UP TO

21:00CODE THAT'S PART OF THE PICK

21:00THE PIKE BETTERMENT PROCESS.

21:02UM AND WE WILL BE SENDING A

21:04LINK OUT UM DAILY WE'LL BE

21:05SENDING A LINK OUT TO EVERYBODY

21:07.

21:07I'M SURE YOU HAVE IT ALREADY.

21:09UM, BUT THAT'S IF RESIDENTS YOU

21:12KNOW AND I WOULD HAVE TO BE A

21:13MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS WOULD

21:14HAVE TO BE A VOTE.

21:14YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE MEETINGS

21:15WOULD HAVE TO GO ON BUT THAT

21:17WOULD BE UM FOR THE CITY TO

21:19TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP AND

21:20BASICALLY TO MAKE IT FROM A

21:21PRIVATE WAY TO A PUBLIC WAY,

21:22THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING THE

21:24STREET UP FROM ITS CURRENT

21:25CONDITIONS INTO, YOU KNOW, CITY

21:28SPECS, UM, YOU KNOW, FULLY

21:30ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW,

21:3250, YOU KNOW, 53 53FT OF OF

21:35OF WIDTH RIGHT WHICH NOW WE'RE

21:37TALKING PROBLEMS HERE ON A LOT

21:38OF THESE ALLEYS, UM, YOU KNOW,

21:41ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, UM,

21:43DRAINAGE LIGHTING WOULD HAVE TO

21:44BE ADDRESSED.

21:45WATER AND SEWER HAS THEIR OWN

21:46SET OF BETTER BETTERMENT, UH,

21:48REGULATIONS.

21:49UM, YOU KNOW, IF UH IF THE

21:52ABUTTERS GOT TOGETHER AND JUST

21:54WANTED TO RESURFACE IT, YOU

21:55KNOW, THAT'D BE LESS COSTLY FOR

21:56THEM.

21:57UM.

21:58>> BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO

21:59TAKE IT OVER AS A PUBLIC WAY

22:01UNLESS THAT CRITERIA IS MET.

22:05RIGHT.

22:05>> UM.

22:06>> AND I.

22:06GUESS I'M OF THE.

22:08MINDSET THAT MOST.

22:10>> OF THESE STREETS.

22:11ARE LEADING TO OTHER MAIN

22:13THOROUGHFARES OR COMING OFF A

22:14MAJOR THOROUGHFARE LIKE THE.

22:16>> WORD PRIVATE.

22:18UM FOR ME DOESN'T.

22:20MEAN THAT.

22:21YOU CAN'T.

22:22YOU KNOW.

22:24>> THE PUBLIC CAN'T USE THE

22:25STREET.

22:25SO I FEEL LIKE THAT ALL PUBLIC

22:26ROADS ANYWAY, UM AND I AM

22:29OF THE MINDSET THAT THE CITY

22:30SHOULD, UM, ALL STREETS AND

22:32SIDEWALKS UH, I KNOW THAT THE

22:34COST, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT

22:36I'VE ALWAYS HEARD CONSTANT

22:37PUSHBACK FROM.

22:39UM, BUT, UH, I'M HOPING THAT

22:42THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION AT

22:43LEAST UM, WHETHER IT'S A PUBLIC

22:46SAFETY ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S A

22:47PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE

22:50WE HAVE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW,

22:52WALKING.

22:52>> DOWN THE.

22:52STREET.

22:53>> UM, THAT WE CAN TRY TO FIND

22:55A WAY ON HOW TO MAKE AT LEAST

22:57SURFACES UM, EVEN UM AND

23:01PEDESTRIAN UH UH FRIENDLY AND

23:03SAFE.

23:04UM, SO YOU MENTIONED THE PUBLIC

23:08SAFETY ASPECT OF IT.

23:10UH, WHAT.

23:10WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT THRESHOLD.

23:12>> LIKE WHEN WOULD YOU KNOW

23:13PUBLIC WORKS JUMP IN AND SAY

23:15HEY THIS THIS THIS NEEDS SOME

23:17ATTENTION.

23:19SO TYPICALLY WE'LL GET EITHER A

23:20CASE VIA 311 OR FROM CITY

23:23COUNSELORS OFFICE OR.

23:24FROM THE.

23:25>> THE FIFTH FLOOR OWNERS WILL

23:27FLAG AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN

23:28RAISED TO THEM AND WE'LL GO

23:29TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

23:31UM YOU KNOW IF IT'S A RIM

23:33BUSTER OR SOMETHING THAT'S

23:34REALLY BAD, WE'LL GO FIX IT.

23:36UM, YOU KNOW, USE TEMPORARY

23:37PATCH.

23:38UH, WE'LL CATCH IT TEMPORARILY.

23:39RIGHT.

23:39KNOWING THAT THE ISSUE IS GOING

23:40TO POP UP AGAIN 99% OF THE TIME

23:43IT'S WATER RELATED, RIGHT?

23:44YOU KNOW, WATER CARVED OUT THE

23:46GRAND CANYON.

23:47SO YOU KNOW OUR PRIVATE IS IN

23:49ALLEYS AREN'T AREN'T ANY MATCH

23:51FOR IT BUT BASICALLY HOW BAD IS

23:53THE POTHOLE?

23:54UM YOU KNOW I THINK UH IN

23:57COUNCIL IT DEPENDS DISTRICT IS

23:57THAT SOME UP IN SUMMIT STREET

23:59THERE THAT'S KIND OF JUST TOO

24:02FAR GONE FOR ANY TYPE

24:03OF TEMPORARY REPAIR.

24:04UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S

24:06JUST YEARS AND YEARS OF NEGLECT

24:08.

24:08UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THROWING SOME

24:11ASPHALT INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE

24:12WOULDN'T WE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE

24:14TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S.

24:15JUST IT'S.

24:16>> JUST TOO LARGE.

24:16BUT UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND

24:19OF WE SEND A SUPERVISOR OUT TO

24:21TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND I'LL SAY

24:22YES, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YES

24:23THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE A

24:24PROBLEM FOR AN AMBULANCE OR

24:25SOMETHING OR NO, THIS IS, YOU

24:27KNOW, MINOR AND COSMETIC AND

24:29YOU KNOW THE THE ABOUT IT IS

24:30REALLY NEED TO TO TO STEP UP

24:32HERE AND FIX IT.

24:32GOT IT MY MY LAST QUESTION I

24:35SEE THE HAND RAISED IS AND YOU

24:37KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE STATE

24:38LAW UM YOU KNOW THE LEGALITY

24:42OF TOUCHING THE STREET AND THE

24:43LIABILITY LIKE WHAT NEGATIVE

24:45IMPACTS.

24:45WOULD YOU SEE.

24:49IN RESURFACING UM A PRIVATE WAY

24:51LIKE WHAT WHAT IS SOMETHING

24:53THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED

24:54ABOUT IF PUBLIC WORKS WAS TO

24:57JUST RESURFACE A PRIVATE WAY?

25:01UM, WELL NEGATIVE IMPACTS I

25:03GUESS AT THIS POINT WITH THE

25:05STATE LAW AS IT IS IT WOULD BE

25:06ILLEGAL.

25:07YOU KNOW.

25:08WHAT IS IT WHAT LIKE WHAT IS

25:10COULD YOU'VE GONE IN THERE.

25:12>> YOU SAID PUBLIC SAFETY LIKE.

25:14>> WHAT IS IT?

25:14I HAVEN'T READ THE LAW.

25:15IN FULL.

25:16I'M AWARE OF IT BUT WHAT ARE

25:17THE CONSEQUENCES.

25:19I DON'T KNOW UM OKAY.

25:21IT'S CAUSED US TO CAUSE US TO

25:23KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT WE DO.

25:24I THINK THERE'S A THRESHOLD YOU

25:25CAN ONLY DO UP TO 25%.

25:27NO, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST

25:28ROADWAY AND SIDEWALKS ARE

25:29THAT'S PART OF THAT 20 I DON'T

25:32KNOW WHAT THAT 25% IS.

25:33IS THAT THE WHOLE COST OF UH,

25:35RECORDING THE YOU KNOW, THE

25:36DRAINAGE AND LIGHTING AND

25:37UTILITY MOVEMENT AND WHATEVER

25:39ELSE THE SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW,

25:40UM, UH CONSTRUCTION IF THAT'S

25:42ALL INTO THAT 25% UM, YOU KNOW,

25:46WE'RE STILL GOING TO OPERATE ON

25:47IF A FIRE TRUCK OR AN AMBULANCE

25:48CAN GET THERE, YOU KNOW,

25:50QUICKLY AND SAFELY THAT'S

25:52THAT'S KIND OF OUR THRESHOLD

25:54NOW AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE

25:55PROBABLY GOING TO MAINTAIN AS

25:56FAR AS THE HIGHWAY YOU KNOW,

25:57HIGHWAY DIVISION GOES UM, YOU

26:00KNOW, I THINK IN ORDER TO TO TO

26:03RESURFACE THAT'S A LARGER

26:04CONVERSATION THAT'S PROBABLY

26:05GONNA HAVE TO INVOLVE LEGAL AND

26:06ENGINEERING.

26:07UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BUT WE'LL

26:10STILL YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS FOR

26:13ACCESS FOR, YOU KNOW, UH,

26:14PUBLIC SAFETY.

26:15ALL RIGHT.

26:17THANK YOU FOR.

26:18>> BEING KIND.

26:18OF.

26:18BROUGHT.

26:21>> THANK YOU.

26:21>> UM, COUNCILOR FLYNN AND.

26:22OH, I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE

26:23YOU'VE BEEN JOINED BY

26:24COUNCILOR WEBER.

26:25AND GO AHEAD.

26:26>> COUNCIL FOR.

26:29THE MORNING.

26:29>> DO YOU.

26:30WANT TO COUNCIL?

26:33SAY, UM, AGAIN WANT TO THANK

26:39COUNCILOR?

26:42DANN?

26:43TELL ME WHAT THE THE PROCESS IS

26:46OR THE PROCESS OF FILLING THE

26:48POTHOLE.

26:50SO AND I KNOW IT'S WE'RE

26:52TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE PRIVATE

26:54AREAS BUT.

26:55CITY WIDE WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE

26:58OR NO LET'S START WITH PUBLIC.

27:00JUST TELL ME THE PROCESS WHEN

27:01IT COMES INTO UM THE 311 APP

27:04HOW DOES TELL ME THE PROCESS

27:06FROM THEN HOW HOW IT ACTUALLY

27:08GETS DONE FILLING THE POTHOLE.

27:10SURE.

27:11>> SO A CASE WILL COME IN AS

27:12POTHOLE UM AND I ADVOCATED SO

27:13WE JUST WE JUST OVERHAULED OUR

27:15OUR BACK OFFICE THREE UM.

27:16SYSTEM AND I ADVOCATED STRONGLY

27:19TO GET IT CHANGED FROM POTHOLE

27:21TO ROADWAY DEFECT I WAS

27:23OVERRULED.

27:24UM.

27:25>> BUT YOU KNOW, A POTHOLE IS A

27:26TYPE OF ROLE THAT.

27:27SEEMS IN THE.

27:30GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T DOESN'T

27:31CREATE SO THEY'LL JUST CREATE A

27:33POTHOLE.

27:33CASE AND COME INTO THE.

27:35DISTRICT YARD.

27:36SO TAKE.

27:36A LOOK AT IT WHERE SOMEBODY HAS

27:37BACKGROUND NOISE IF YOU CAN UM

27:39MUTE THAT UH I WOULD APPRECIATE

27:41IT BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY HEAR

27:42TO.

27:42PROTECT UH, YOU UM IT WILL COME

27:46UP IN CONVERSATION IN TEXT

27:49MESSAGES.

27:50COUNCILOR QUINN.

27:52HE IS, UH, MADAM CHAIR.

27:54I THINK YOU UM YOU HAVE UH YOU

27:55HAVE BACKGROUND NOISE.

27:57UM.

27:58>> UM, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND

27:59JUST MUTING YOURSELF.

27:59SORRY.

28:00>> YEAH.

28:00>> THANK YOU.

28:01IT'S VERY OKAY.

28:04BUT FOR NOW.

28:05>> I I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING

28:07COMING OVER.

28:08OKAY.

28:13SO WE'LL GET A CASE FOR A

28:14POTHOLE.

28:15UM, IT'LL COME IN TO THE

28:16DISTRICT YARD SUPERVISOR.

28:17UM, IF THERE'S A PICTURE

28:18ATTACHED, UH, THEY'LL BE ABLE

28:20TO DIFFERENTIATE WHETHER IT'S A

28:22POTHOLE.

28:22UM, UTILITY CASTING ISSUE,

28:25UTILITY, UH, CUT ISSUE, UM, YOU

28:28KNOW, OR SOMETHING ELSE WHERE

28:30IT DOESN'T GET HANDLED BY THE

28:31HIGHWAY DIVISION.

28:32UM, IF IT'S DEEMED TO BE OURS

28:34AND WE OWN IT, UM, IT'LL BE,

28:36YOU KNOW, ADDED TO A PATCH LIST

28:39FOR THE NEXT TIME THAT THEY'RE

28:40OUT PATCHING TYPICALLY THIS

28:41TIME OF YEAR GOES PATCHING

28:43MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK.

28:45UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE IN MARCH

28:47AND APRIL, UM, THEY'RE PATCHING

28:49PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY.

28:51UM, SO WE'LL GO OUT AND PATCH

28:53IT UM, IF IT'S A PRIVATE WAY

28:55UM, CASE IS USUALLY YOU KNOW,

28:58DEPENDING ON HOW IT LOOK IF

28:59THERE'S A PICTURE DEPENDING ON

29:00HOW IT LOOKS.

29:00CASE IS USUALLY CLOSED AS YOU

29:02KNOW, PRIVATE WAY.

29:03UM, ABUTTERS ARE RESPONSIBLE

29:04FOR REPAIRS NOW IT CAN BE

29:07CLOSED THAT WAY.

29:08AND IF THE SUPERVISOR DEEMS

29:09THAT HEY, THIS IS GOING TO

29:11CAUSE A PROBLEM IF AN AMBULANCE

29:12TRIES TO GET DOWN HERE OR A

29:13LADDER TRUCK OR EVEN IF WE USE

29:16IT TO COLLECT UH TO ACCESS FOR

29:17TRASH COLLECTION FOR

29:18RESIDENTIAL TRASH COLLECTION

29:19THEY'LL GO PATCH IT.

29:21HOWEVER, THE RESIDENT WILL

29:22STILL GET THE NOTIFICATION VIA

29:23THE APP THAT UM YOU KNOW IT'S A

29:27PRIVATE WAY ABUTTERS ARE

29:28RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS.

29:30OKAY.

29:31>> DAN, CAN YOU JUST TELL ME.

29:35THEN AS I MENTIONED IN MY

29:37OPENING, I'M WORKING WITH

29:39CHINATOWN RESIDENTS ON AN ISSUE

29:41AS IT RELATES TO A PRIVATE WAY

29:43UM WITH WITH THE WATER AND

29:45SEWER RELATED ISSUES.

29:47UM, BUT HOW DOES HOW DOES

29:50PUBLIC WORKS WORK WITH UM

29:53BOSTON WATER AND SEWER ON THESE

29:56TYPES OF ISSUES?

29:57IS THERE UM.

30:02IS DO YOU HAVE TO COORDINATE UM

30:05LOGISTICALLY WHEN TO DO PLOT

30:07HOLES BUT IS THERE OPPORTUNITY

30:09TO DO WORK WITH WATER AND SEWER

30:13AT THE SAME TIME OR ARE THEY

30:15SEPARATE ISSUES?

30:18SO IF IT'S.

30:18>> JUST A SURFACE POTHOLE ON

30:19OUR ROADWAYS VERY YOU KNOW WE

30:21DON'T NEED TO COORDINATE WITH

30:22WATER AND SEWER.

30:23UM, CERTAINLY IN THE SPRING

30:25TIME A LOT OF THE ISSUES ON OUR

30:27PUBLIC ROADWAYS ARE DEFECTS

30:30AROUND UH, CATCH BASINS AND

30:32WATER SHUT OFFS, UM, AND ALL

30:34THE OTHER UTILITIES.

30:35I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT

30:35WATER AND SEWER, BUT IF WE GET

30:36A CASE FOR THAT WE'LL JUST, UH

30:38,REALLOCATED OVER TO, UM,

30:40WATER AND SEWER.

30:41AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE

30:42RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS WITHIN

30:4430IN OF ANY OF THEIR

30:45INFRASTRUCTURE.

30:46SO ALL UTILITIES OR ANY

30:47OF THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE

30:48MANHOLES SHUT OFFS, UM, YOU

30:51KNOW, PULL BOXES THEY'RE

30:52RESPONSIBLE FOR 30IN AROUND

30:54EACH UM YOU KNOW, EACH ASSET.

30:58OKAY.

31:00>> SO THE CUT PHASE AND I THEY

31:04ALWAYS ON UH PUBLIC PROPERTY OR

31:08DO YOU HAVE MANY THAT ARE UM ON

31:10PRIVATE.

31:11MOST ARE ON PUBLIC.

31:12THERE ARE SOME UM IN PRIVATE

31:15WAYS.

31:16SOME ARE OWNED BY WATER AND

31:17SEWER.

31:18SOME ARE ACTUALLY PRIVATE

31:19DRAINS.

31:20OKAY OKAY.

31:23IN IN A.

31:25ONE ISSUE I'M ALWAYS THINKING

31:27ABOUT IS ON BEACH STREET BUT

31:30WHEN WHEN THE ROAD YOU KNOW

31:34MAYBE IT'S POORLY DESIGNED YOU

31:36KNOW GOING BACK 7080 YEARS UM

31:42BUT IF THE WATER IF THE WATER.

31:45CONTINUES TO BE IN THE CATCH.

31:49BASIN AFTER AFTER A RAINSTORM.

31:51AND THERE NEEDS TO BE.

31:54IMPROVEMENTS UM, HOW DOES HOW

31:58DOES THAT PROCESS WORK WHERE.

32:00YOU NEED TO YOU NEED.

32:02TO WORK ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE

32:04AND AROUND THE CATCH BASIN BUT

32:06WORKING WITH WATER AND SEWER

32:08AND AND PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL IS

32:11THAT IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SAY

32:13YEAH.

32:13SO WE'LL GET CASES FOR PUDDLES

32:15I THINK WHEN WE STARTED DOING

32:17UM PEDESTRIAN BUMP OUTS FOR

32:18RAMPS WE RAN INTO A LOT

32:21OF PROBLEMS.

32:22UM THAT'S A REGRADING ISSUE

32:23THAT WE CAN ADDRESS VIA UM YOU

32:25KNOW, RESURFACING NORMAN PARKS

32:26AND HIS CREW OVER AT UM AN

32:29ENGINEERING YOU KNOW, THEY CAN

32:30COME IN UH, I THINK LET'S SAY

32:32EAST SPRINGFIELD AT HARRISON

32:34WAS ONE THEY DID LAST YEAR.

32:35THAT WAS A BIG ONE.

32:36UM.

32:38IF YOU.

32:38KNOW THE CATCH BASIN ISN'T

32:39TAKING WATER, THAT WOULD BE A

32:41WATER AND SEWER ISSUE.

32:42UM, AND THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS

32:44THAT THEY CAN DO.

32:44THEY CAN CLEAN THE ACTUAL CATCH

32:45BASIN.

32:46THEY CAN CHECK THE LATERAL

32:47PIPES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE

32:48TAKING WATER.

32:49UM, YOU KNOW, UM THAT'S REALLY

32:53KIND OF THE THE TRUTH THE TWO

32:54BIGGEST FIXES FOR THAT I MEAN A

32:56SIMPLE THING WOULD BE JUST TO

32:58CREATE A311 CASE AND JUST KIND

32:59OF OUTLINE WHAT'S HAPPENING

33:00THAT WATER IS BEING HELD OR THE

33:02CATCH BASIN ISN'T.

33:04>> TAKING WATER.

33:05INTO MY FINAL QUESTION.

33:08SO ENGINEERING IS.

33:09ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

33:11ENGINEERING AT WATER AND SEWER

33:13ENGINEERING THEY'RE PUBLIC

33:14WORKS BUT ALSO YOU MENTIONED

33:16LEGAL SO THEY'RE ALL PART

33:19OF DISCUSSIONS AS RELATES TO UH

33:22PRIVATE ALLEYS.

33:23SO IS THAT ACCURATE?

33:25UM SO IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO

33:26EACH LIKE INDIVIDUAL 311 CASE

33:28USUALLY NO THAT'S HANDLED ON

33:29THE HIGHWAY LEVEL AND WITH THE

33:31SUPERVISOR UM AND LIKE I SAID

33:33WE DON'T WE WE WE ADVISE THE

33:35UM.

33:36CONSTITUENT THAT UNFORTUNATELY

33:38REPAIRS ARE ON THE A BUTTER AND

33:40IF WE DEEM NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC

33:43SAFETY WE WILL GO FIX IT WHILE.

33:45>> STILL.

33:45CLOSING THE CASE THAT WE'RE NOT

33:46GOING TO FIX IT.

33:47UM, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE

33:49WHEN THEY CREATE THE 311 MAYBE

33:51THEY'VE BEEN MISLED BY A REAL

33:52ESTATE AGENT.

33:53SHOCKING.

33:54UM OR THEY JUST DON'T

33:55UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE ON A

33:56PRIVATE WAY AND THEY SEE THIS

33:58THEY SEE THE ROAD IN FRONT

33:59OF THE HOUSE.

33:59IT LOOKS LIKE A REGULAR STREET,

34:00RIGHT?

34:00ACTS AS A REGULAR STREET.

34:01UM, AND THEY SAY WELL THIS IS

34:03TERRIBLE.

34:03THIS NEEDS TO GET FIXED.

34:04THE CITY SHOULD BE FIXING IT I

34:05PAY TAXES HOWEVER THERE IS THAT

34:08THE STATE LAW WE CAN'T USE

34:10PUBLIC FUNDS TO FIX PRIVATE

34:11PROPERTY.

34:12UM.

34:13YOU KNOW SO.

34:14SO THERE IS A YOU KNOW, A BIT

34:17OF CONFUSION ON THAT, YOU KNOW

34:19THE THE THE BETTERMENT PROCESS.

34:21YEP.

34:21ENGINEERING IS FULLY INVOLVED.

34:23YOU KNOW THEY TAKE THE LEAD

34:24THEY RUN THE ASSESSMENT THEY

34:25THEY DO THE SURVEY.

34:26YOU KNOW THAT'S IF WE GET UM

34:29YOU KNOW YOU KNOW THE CORRECT

34:31NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE

34:32PETITION I THINK WE NEED OVER

34:3350% OF HOMEOWNERS TO AGREE TO

34:37UM FOR BETTERMENT.

34:38UM, AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE

34:39PROCESS THERE THAT GOES ON.

34:40I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN

34:42IN THE PAST 15 YEARS THERE'S

34:44ONLY BEEN FOUR STREETS THAT

34:45HAVE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE

34:47PROCESS.

34:48OKAY, OKAY.

34:49MADAM CHAIR, I.

34:50>> WAS.

34:51GOING TO.

34:51>> ASK ONE MORE QUESTION BUT I

34:52DIDN'T WANT TO ASK IF, UM, MY

34:53TIME IS UP OR WITHOUT

34:55PERMISSION.

34:56I THINK YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, UM,

34:58ASK.

34:58OKAY.

34:59>> IT'LL BE A BRIEF QUESTION.

35:00SO DAN, IF IF IF PUBLIC.

35:03WORKS DOES FIX THE POTHOLE ON A

35:05PRIVATE STREETS.

35:06THE THE RESIDENTS.

35:08MOST LIKELY ARE RESPONSIBLE

35:10FOR.

35:10PAYING PAYING.

35:11FOR HOW.

35:12>> DO THEY GET A BILL.

35:14UM THE DO THEY.

35:16DO THEY THEY JUST.

35:17>> GOT A BILL IN THE MAIL FROM

35:18PUBLIC WORKS OR DID IT.

35:21DOES THE.

35:22>> OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LISTED

35:23GET A BILL?

35:25JUST JUST TELL ME THE LOGISTICS

35:26OF THAT PLACE.

35:28SO IF WE FIX.

35:28>> A POTHOLE WE DO NOT BILL UM

35:30WE'RE FIXING THE POTHOLE UNDER

35:31THE GUISE THAT WE NEED TO, YOU

35:33KNOW, HAVE ACCESS FOR

35:36AMBULANCES, FIRE TRUCKS THAT

35:37THAT TYPE OF THING.

35:38UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING

35:40ABOUT IS IF THEY WERE TO GO

35:41THROUGH THE THE BETTERMENT

35:42PROCESS WHERE PUBLIC WORKS COME

35:44IN AND JUST DID THE WHOLE RECON

35:45RIGHT ADDED THE PUBLIC, YOU

35:46KNOW, ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, UM

35:49,RESURFACED THEN THERE WOULD

35:50BE AN ASSESSMENT CALCULATED.

35:52THEY WOULD.

35:53KNOW THAT.

35:54BEFORE THEY AGREED TO TO MOVE

35:55FORWARD.

35:56I BELIEVE I'M GETTING A IT'S

35:58NOT MY I SPENT SOME TIME THIS

36:00WEEK LEARNING ABOUT IT BUT I

36:02BELIEVE THERE'S A YOU KNOW.

36:03THERE'S THE THERE'S.

36:04>> THE VOTE TO THERE'S THE

36:05PETITION THEN THERE'S THE VOTE

36:06AMONGST ALL THE THE RESIDENTS

36:08THEN ENGINEERING WILL DO A

36:10SURVEY AND SAY OKAY GENERALLY

36:11IT'S GOING TO COST THIS AMOUNT

36:13AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PUBLIC

36:14MEETING AFTER THAT.

36:17SO OKAY WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY

36:18GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

36:19THAT'S HOW IT'S OUTLINED TO ME.

36:20IT WAS OUTLINED TO ME.

36:22OKAY EXCELLENT.

36:23UH THANK YOU DAN THANK YOU

36:24MADAM CHAIR FOR GIVING ME AN

36:25EXTRA MINUTE.

36:27UH THANK YOU.

36:28I DON'T SEE COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE

36:29ON THE CALL ANYMORE.

36:30UM, SO WE WILL GO TO

36:33COUNCILOR FITZGERALD AND THEN

36:34COUNCILOR WEBER.

36:36THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

36:38UH, AND THANK YOU, DAVE FOR

36:39BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.

36:41UM.

36:42>> IF WE WERE TO TAKE OVER

36:43EVERY STREET IF.

36:44THIS WERE TO PASS AND SAY EVERY

36:45PRIVATE WAY BECOMES OWNED BY BY

36:47UH BY STREETS BUT BY THE CITY,

36:50UM, HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE WOULD

36:51WE HAVE TO ADD DO YOU THINK

36:53MAYBE I I PROBABLY YOU PROBABLY

36:54HAVE AN EXACT AMOUNT BUT A

36:55GUESSTIMATE OF LIKE HOW MANY

36:56MORE EMPLOYEES WOULD THAT TAKE

36:58AND WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD.

36:59SORT OF A BALLPARK.

37:01>> COST BE TO TAKE THAT ON?

37:04BECAUSE THAT'S SORT OF TO

37:05ME THAT BRIGHT IDEA.

37:06>> TO THAT QUESTION.

37:07BUT TO ME THAT'S THE CRUX

37:08OF THIS, RIGHT.

37:08LIKE WE COULD DO THIS BUT LIKE

37:10AT WHAT COST DOES IT COME AND

37:11ARE WE ABLE TO FILL THAT AND

37:13THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES HEALTH

37:15CARE, PENSIONS ETC. THAT WOULD

37:17GO ALONG WITH THAT?

37:18YEAH I MEAN AS FAR AS EMPLOYEES

37:21CERTAINLY ENGINEER ENGINEERING

37:23IS UNDERSTAFFED AS IT IS AS

37:24THEY ARE AT MOST YOU KNOW MOST

37:26DIVISIONS AT THIS POINT.

37:26BUT YEAH, IT WOULD BE A LOT UM

37:31I COULD TRY TO MAYBE TALK TO

37:33SOME FOLKS OVER IN ENGINEERING.

37:34UM I MEAN THE AMOUNT OF WORK

37:36THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE

37:37ADDING SIDEWALKS AND MOVING

37:38UTILITIES AND WATER AND SEWER

37:40INVOLVEMENT AND AND CATCH

37:42BASINS AND MOVING DRAINS AND IF

37:44THE SOME OF THESE HOUSES ARE ON

37:46SEPTIC SYSTEMS, ODDLY ENOUGH UM

37:48UH.

37:50I ANY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS I

37:52YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE A LOT.

37:54YEAH AND THAT'S.

37:55>> JUST.

37:55THAT'S JUST TO GET THEM UP.

37:57TO CODE.

37:57AND WITH THAT AND LET.

38:00ALONE THE.

38:01ONGOING MAINTENANCE.

38:02AS WE.

38:02>> WOULD GIVE ANY OTHER STREET

38:03GOING FORWARD.

38:04CORRECT.

38:05>> AND THAT'S ASSUMING THAT

38:06RESIDENTS WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

38:07I MEAN WE GET CHALLENGED MOST

38:09TIMES WE GO OUT AND PATCH A

38:11POTHOLE.

38:12THERE ARE FOLKS THAT DON'T WANT

38:13IT.

38:14THEY DON'T WANT US ON THEIR

38:15STREET BECAUSE NOW IT'S UH

38:17SHARON STREET, RIGHT?

38:18IT WAS VOTED THAT WAS ONE

38:18OF THE ONES THAT STARTED TO GO

38:20THROUGH THE PROCESS.

38:20THE RESIDENT VOTED IT DOWN

38:22BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT IT TO

38:23BE A CUT THROUGH THE STREET, UH

38:24SPEEDING.

38:26SO IT THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE

38:28HERE.

38:29WITH IS THERE ANY.

38:30BENEFIT WHEN IT IS BY THE WAY I

38:32MEAN ARE THEY TAXED MORE ON IT.

38:34IS THERE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO

38:36AN INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY WHEN

38:37THEY LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY?

38:39UM I LOST YOU A LITTLE BIT BUT

38:41I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ARE THEY

38:42IS THERE ANY BENEFIT I THINK SO

38:45AGAIN I'VE LIVED AS

38:47COUNCILOR FLYNN KNOWS ON A

38:48PRIVATE WAVE SINCE 1978.

38:51IT'S ALMOST LIKE OUR OWN

38:52PARKING.

38:52UM, WE OWN THE PROPERTY SO YOU

38:55KNOW, YOU GET TOGETHER WITH THE

38:56FOLKS.

38:57I SAID LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ONE.

38:58WE HAVE WHAT SIX HOUSES ON ON

38:59THE PRIVATE WAY WE ALL AND GET

39:01TOGETHER AND SHARE LIKE

39:03OWNERSHIP OF IT.

39:04UM WE ALSO HAVE TO CLEAN IT.

39:06WE ALSO HAVE TO SHOVEL IT.

39:08UM YEAH.

39:08YOU KNOW.

39:09>> I GET THAT.

39:10YEAH.

39:11>> IS THERE ANY TAX DIFFERENCE.

39:13LIKE THE AMOUNT OF.

39:14PROPERTY IF IT'S A PRIVATE WAY

39:16IS IT.

39:17SPLIT INDIVIDUALLY?

39:18IS IT ADDED SQUARE FOOTAGE TO

39:19SOMEBODY'S.

39:20TAX BASE.

39:21THAT THEY WOULD BE TAXED UPON

39:22AND IF IT WERE TAKEN AWAY MIGHT

39:24THEY SEE THEIR TAXES GO DOWN IF

39:25IT WAS A PUBLIC STREET OR NOT?

39:29UH I JUST GOT MY TAX BILL LAST

39:31WEEK.

39:32UM I DON'T THINK IT'S ADDED TO

39:34THE TAX BILL.

39:35>> I DON'T KNOW I DON'T.

39:36>> I DON'T THINK IT IS BUT I

39:37DON'T KNOW.

39:38NO THAT'S I WAS JUST WONDERING

39:39IF LIKE THERE IS ANY BENEFIT TO

39:40SAY HEY IF YOU DO IT THAT'S

39:41LESS SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU TAXED

39:43ON ETC. OR THE PROPERTY IF YOU

39:45YOU KNOW THE VALUE OF YOUR

39:46PROPERTY RIGHT?

39:46IT'S NOT A ROAD WE NEED TO GO

39:48DOWN THERE BUT I JUST THESE ARE

39:50THE I THINK.

39:51>> THE BENEFIT THE BENEFIT

39:52WOULD BE RIGHT HAVING HAVE IT

39:53BE RESURFACED EVERY 20 OR 30

39:55YEARS HOWEVER WE KNOW I THINK

39:56THAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT AND

39:57HAVING YOU KNOW MAYBE IT'S

39:58SWEPT AND.

39:59YEAH MAINTAINED AND SNOW AND

40:01ICE MAYBE GOTCHA.

40:02>> SO I MEAN I THINK THE MAIN

40:04THING ABOUT DRIVEWAYS THIS

40:05WOULD THIS WOULD BE A VERY

40:07EXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING.

40:09UH ADD THEM ON EXTREMELY

40:11EXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING I THINK

40:12THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT UH.

40:13KEY THAT I WANT UH THAT I WANT

40:16TO TAKE NOTE OF.

40:16UM, AND.

40:17THAT'S ALL THE TIME AT MY OTHER

40:19COLLEAGUES HAVE SOME GREAT

40:19QUESTIONS AND SO ON TO THE, UH,

40:20WHAT FOLKS NEED TO DO WHEN THEY

40:22DO HAVE ONE AND WHAT THE.

40:23>> OTHER.

40:23ADVANTAGES DECISIONS MIGHT BE.

40:24SO, UH, I'M ALL SET.

40:26CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

40:27THE TIME OF DAY.

40:28THANK YOU.

40:29THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FITZGERALD

40:32.

40:32COUNCILOR WEBER.

40:37YEAH.

40:38>> THANK YOU.

40:39UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

40:45WE CAN KIND OF HEAR YOU, BUT MY

40:47INTERNET HAS BEEN BAD, SO.

40:48I DON'T I'M NOT.

40:49>> A.

40:50GOOD JUDGE OF THIS, BUT I THINK

40:52YOU'RE COMING IN CLEAR NOW.

40:54OKAY.

40:55>> THANK YOU.

40:56UH, YEAH.

40:57I, UH I LIVED OUT A PRIVATE WAY

40:59FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IN JP

41:02ADELAIDE TERRACE AND IT WAS

41:03LIKE, UH, A GRAVEL UH, SORT

41:07OF ROAD AND WE WORKED WITH THE

41:09NEIGHBORS.

41:09THERE'S ALSO A DEAD END.

41:12UM BUT I GUESS IT WAS ONE ISSUE

41:14WITH THIS PAVING WE HAD TALKED

41:17ABOUT PAVING OUR PRIVATE WAY

41:18BUT WITHOUT THE OTHER

41:20INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS

41:22SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD JUST

41:24FUNCTION AS SORT OF LIKE, UH, A

41:26SLIDE FOR WATER TO GO INTO OUR

41:28BASEMENT AND STUFF.

41:29BUT HE JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT

41:31ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT

41:33ELSE WE WOULD YOU NEED TO PUT

41:35IN AND WHEN YOU PAVE AT LEAST

41:37ONE OF THESE GRAVEL PRIVATE

41:39WAYS.

41:40YEAH.

41:41>> SO WE'VE RUN INTO THE

41:42PROBLEMS LIKE THAT UP THE

41:43GROVE, UM, THAT WE DO USE TO

41:45ACCESS FOR TRASH.

41:46UM, WE'VE GONE UP THERE AND

41:48ADDED MAILINGS UH, AND THEN

41:50MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT WELL,

41:51YOU KNOW, EVEN AFFECTED THE WAY

41:53THAT THE WATER RUNS OFF IT'S

41:54COME INTO OUR BASEMENT.

41:56THAT TYPE OF THING.

41:57SO YEAH, ANY TYPE OF YOU KNOW,

42:01CHANGE LIKE THAT TO THE TO THE

42:02ROADWAY OR TO THE IT DOES

42:04AFFECT DRAINAGE ESPECIALLY IF

42:05THERE ARE NO CATCH BASINS OR IF

42:07THERE IS NO YOU KNOW, NO SYSTEM

42:09SET UP TO CAPTURE THAT WATER.

42:13OKAY.

42:14>> YEAH I UH SO JUST I, I I'M

42:17IN MY CAR BECAUSE I AM IN THE

42:20GROVE AND I WANTED TO, UH, BE

42:23ABLE TO TALK TO YOU FROM HERE.

42:25UM SO THERE THE THE POTHOLES IN

42:28THE GROVE RANGE FROM UH I DON'T

42:31KNOW, LIKE THOSE THE SIZE OF A

42:34LARGE TURTLE TO LIKE THE SIZE

42:36OF A SHERMAN TANK.

42:37UH, SO I GUESS WHAT IS THE

42:41OKAY, SO CAN YOU FILL THE

42:44SMALLER POTHOLES IN THE GROVE

42:45WITH ASPHALT?

42:46WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION?

42:49SO WE WOULDN'T USE ASPHALT.

42:50>> UP THERE.

42:51YOU WANT TO USE WHAT'S EXISTING

42:52?

42:52UH, ASPHALT IS UP.

42:53YOU KNOW WHEN IT WHEN IT CURES.

42:55IT'S A HARD STATIONARY MATERIAL

42:57UP THERE.

42:58THE GRAVEL KIND OF MOVES IN

43:00FLOWS AS IT GETS SATURATED AS

43:01IT FREEZES AS IT DRIES OUT.

43:03UM, THAT WOULD JUST USING

43:05ASPHALT WOULD JUST CAUSE A

43:06PROBLEM.

43:08UM I BELIEVE WAS TWO YEARS AGO

43:09ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE

43:10GROVE ACTUALLY CALLED THE EPA

43:12ON US BECAUSE WE WERE USING

43:13MAILINGS TO FILL UM, SAYING

43:14THAT IT WAS A HAZARDOUS

43:16MATERIAL.

43:16IT WASN'T IT'S A ACCEPTED

43:18ROADWAY MATERIAL.

43:19UM.

43:20THE GROVE.

43:21>> IS A TOUGH ONE.

43:22THE GROVES ARE TOUGH ON MOST

43:23OF THE FOLKS UP THERE DON'T

43:24WANT DON'T.

43:25WANT US UP THERE.

43:26UM, THERE IS A THERE IS A

43:28GENTLEMAN UP THERE THAT DOES

43:30HAVE A, UH A LITTLE SKID STEER

43:31LIKE A BOBCAT.

43:32UM, I THINK I TALKED TO FREDDIE

43:34UH, LAST NIGHT THE LIKE WE DID

43:36DUMP, UM, SOME MAILINGS FOR HIM

43:38TWO YEARS AGO AND HE WOULD KIND

43:40OF UPKEEP UP THERE.

43:41UM, BUT IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT

43:43PLACE TO TO GO EVERY TIME WE GO

43:45UP THERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT US

43:46THERE THAT THEY'RE CALLING TO

43:47GET US OUT.

43:47THEY'RE CALLING THE.

43:48>> POLICE.

43:48ON US.

43:49>> UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE

43:52CRITERIA IS, YOU KNOW, CAN AN

43:55AMBULANCE OR A FIRE TRUCK MAKE

43:57IT THROUGH IF NEEDED?

44:02AND THAT CANISTER OR.

44:07UH.

44:07I'VE TRAVELED.

44:13WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS THERE?

44:14BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ENORMOUS

44:16POTHOLES IN HERE THERE THAT

44:18WOULD JUST AS WELL AS THE CAR.

44:19I DIDN'T GET ALL OF YOUR

44:21QUESTION BUT I I.

44:25YEAH I MEAN HOW DO YOU THINK

44:27YOU CAN GET AN AMBULANCE TO THE

44:29GROVE?

44:30I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.

44:33I MISSED THE FIRST PART OF THE

44:35QUESTION.

44:38UH I I GUESS THAT YOU CAN YOU

44:40GET A FIRE TRUCK THROUGH THE

44:41GROVE IS MY QUESTION.

44:45UM, YEAH.

44:46>> YES.

44:46>> I'VE SEEN IT.

44:47YEAH.

44:49UH, OKAY.

44:51UM I, UH AND SO, UH, IF IF

44:59PEOPLE HAVE SO EVEN ON THESE

45:02MIXED UH, SORT OF GRAVEL

45:05SURFACE ROADS THEY CAN SOME

45:07PEOPLE CAN FILE A311 AND AND

45:11THE CITY WILL COME OUT AND

45:13PERHAPS FILL THOSE HOLES.

45:17SO GROVE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT

45:18OF A DIFFERENT UH YOU.

45:19KNOW, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT

45:21DIFFERENT.

45:21BECAUSE I YOU KNOW, I I GOT

45:23THAT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WAS

45:24NOT ON GROVE HARDLY.

45:26WELL, YOU KNOW ADELAIDE UH YOU

45:29KNOW OTHER OTHER PLACES UM IS

45:32THE RECOMMENDATION FOR JUST THE

45:34POTHOLES TO TO FOLLOW TRAIL ON

45:36ONE.

45:37UM YEAH.

45:38YEAH.

45:39YOU KNOW.

45:40>> WITH THE CAVEAT THAT, YOU

45:41KNOW.

45:41IT IS GOING TO GET CLOSED OUT

45:43ALMOST IMMEDIATELY THAT IT'S A

45:45PRIVATE WAY BUT IS RESPONSIBLE

45:46FOR REPAIR.

45:47BUT WHAT.

45:48>> THAT DOES IS THE INSPECTOR

45:50OR SUPERVISOR IN THE IN THE

45:51DISTRICT.

45:52WILL EVENTUALLY.

45:53>> GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT UM AND

45:55ASSESS IS THIS SOMETHING THAT

45:57WE HAVE TO STEP IN AND REPAIR

45:58FOR THE ABUTTERS SO THAT A FIRE

46:00TRUCK CAN HAVE ACCESS IF THE

46:01LADDER TRUCK CAN ACCESS THE

46:03THE.

46:03>> THE AREA?

46:07UM, I GUESS ON THE ON THE UH

46:09WHATEVER THE THE THE

46:10IMPROVEMENT YOU KNOW, MAKING

46:12THE PRIVATE PRIVATELY INTO A

46:13PUBLIC WAY IS THERE'S IS THERE

46:16ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ACTUALLY

46:18MAKE THAT INTO A REAL PROGRAM

46:21OR IS IT JUST THAT NO, YOU KNOW

46:23,VERY FEW PRIVATE WAYS WANT TO

46:25ABSORB THE COST, UH, AND THAT

46:29THE CITY CANNOT AFFORD TO.

46:33TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS THAT

46:35OURSELVES BECAUSE IT WOULD BE

46:37MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

46:40UM UM.

46:43SO SO IT IS A REAL PROGRAM.

46:44UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S BEEN

46:46FOUR STREETS IN THE PAST 15

46:47YEARS.

46:47I THINK WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES

46:49IS NOT EVERYBODY LIVING ON THE

46:51PRIVATE WAY WANTS IT TO HAPPEN.

46:52LIKE I SAID SHARON STREET THEY

46:55WANT IT THE WAY YOU KNOW MOST

46:56OF THE PEOPLE THERE WANT IT THE

46:58WAY IT IS.

46:59UM.

46:59YOU KNOW, IT CUTS TO THERE FOR

47:02WHATEVER REASON THAT THEY THEY

47:04MAYBE THEY FEAR THAT THEIR

47:05TAXES WILL GO UP I DON'T KNOW I

47:07CAN'T YOU KNOW WHAT I HEAR WHEN

47:09I USED TO WHEN I USED TO BE OUT

47:10THERE ON THE ROAD LIKE THAT.

47:11WOULD BE YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO

47:13CAUSE FOLKS TO USE THE STREET

47:14AS A CUT THROUGH.

47:15WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE FLYING

47:16THROUGH HERE.

47:17OUR KIDS PLAY HERE, UM.

47:19YOU KNOW SO.

47:20SO I MEAN IT IS A REAL PROGRAM.

47:22UM I THINK WHAT THE PROBLEM

47:24LIES IN IS THAT IT'S GOING TO

47:26BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET RIGHT

47:28TO GET EVERYONE TO AGREE ON

47:30ANYTHING REALLY.

47:30BUT I MEAN SOMETHING LIKE THAT

47:32WHERE YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THAT

47:34AFTER THE CITY COMES IN AND

47:36DOES IT IT'S GOING TO BE

47:37ASSESSED.

47:38YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN

47:39ASSESSMENT.

47:39ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

47:41SO UM SO.

47:42YEAH AND IT JUST IN TERMS

47:43OF THAT HOW DOES IT WORK?

47:45IT'S ONLY I'M JUST SAYING TO

47:47GET MORE THAN FOREST STREETS IN

47:5015 YEARS TO PARTICIPATE NOT

47:51THAT THE PROGRAM ISN'T ISN'T

47:52WELL RUN UH, JUST YOU KNOW,

47:55OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE AREN'T TAKING

47:56ADVANTAGE OF IT.

47:58UM UH, YEAH.

48:01SO WHAT IS THE PAYMENT PLAN

48:02LIKE?

48:02YOU JUST SEE IF IF IT COSTS $1

48:07MILLION OF WORK ON THAT STREET,

48:09WHO'S PAYING FOR IT AND HOW

48:11DOES IT GET PAID OUT?

48:12UM, SO IT WOULD BE AN

48:14ASSESSMENT.

48:14UM.

48:15THAT'S THE THE THE.

48:17BREADTH OF MY KNOWLEDGE ON THAT

48:19I DON'T KNOW I, I HAVE NO IDEA

48:21IF THEY WOULD ALLOW PAYMENT

48:22PLANS OR IF IT'S IT'S JUST

48:24ASSESSED TO THE TO THE PROPERTY

48:26.

48:28OKAY.

48:29>> UH YEAH YOU GET IT IN ONE

48:31TAX BILL THAT I'VE NEVER REALLY

48:33UNDERSTOOD HOW THAT WORKS.

48:34UM.

48:36YEAH.

48:37>> UNFORTUNATELY NEITHER.

48:38DO I.

48:38YEAH.

48:39>> OKAY.

48:41UH, OKAY.

48:41WELL YEAH.

48:42I MEAN MY UNDERSTANDING IS

48:44THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WHO

48:45LIVES ON THESE PRIVATE WAYS YOU

48:47DO OWN YOUR YOUR FRONTAGE UP TO

48:49HALFWAY INTO THE PRIVATE WAY.

48:52UM, AND YEAH, I'VE BEEN OUT

48:54THERE SHOVELING, UH, YOU KNOW,

48:56DURING THE SNOWSTORMS AND YOU

48:58KNOW, UH, WE BOUGHT LIKE A SNOW

49:00BLOWER, UH, AS YOU KNOW, OUR

49:03HOUSE TO THE OTHER HOUSES WERE

49:04RENTERS AND UM, IT WAS SORT

49:07OF AN ENDLESS STRUGGLE.

49:08SO I UNDERSTAND THIS PROGRAM IS

49:09PROBABLY A.

49:10>> LITTLE WAYS.

49:11UM, UH, AND I YOU KNOW.

49:15>> WE I ALSO GET A LOT.

49:17>> OF.

49:17PEOPLE WHO COME TO ME.

49:18SAY I PAY TAXES.

49:19YOU KNOW, WHY.

49:20>> DOESN'T THE CITY FIX UP MY

49:21PRIVATE WAY?

49:22I MEAN, MY THOUGHT ON THAT IS.

49:23I THINK IF ALL THE RULES ARE

49:25BEING FOLLOWED LIKE THESE

49:26HOUSES WOULDN'T EXIST AT LEAST

49:28THE ONES THAT ADELAIDE SOMEBODY

49:29JUST BUILT HOUSES BEHIND THEIR

49:33PROPERTY.

49:33UH, AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S.

49:36LIKE IT'S.

49:37ALMOST LIKE GETTING SOMETHING.

49:38>> FOR.

49:39NOTHING IF YOU JUST CONVERT IT

49:41INTO A PUBLIC WAY.

49:42YOU KNOW, UH, THOSE.

49:43THOSE YOU'RE SORT OF TAKING.

49:45ADVANTAGE OF THE.

49:46CITY ON.

49:47>> ONE END AND THEN, YOU KNOW,

49:48UH.

49:49HOPING THE CITY PAYS FOR IT.

49:51>> ON THE ON THE OTHER BUT UH

49:55UM UH, YOU KNOW, I OBVIOUSLY.

49:57>> I THINK I, I HAVE HEARD FROM

49:59PEOPLE IN THE GROVE WHO WANT TO

50:00SEE THOSE POTHOLES BEING.

50:01FIXED AND MAYBE WE'LL DO SOME

50:02MORE.

50:03ORGANIZING AROUND THAT UH.

50:05>> TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW.

50:06>> IT.

50:07IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET

50:08THROUGH THERE HOPING YOU JUST.

50:10IMPROVED IT ANYWAY.

50:11>> SO, UH.

50:12I APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THE WORK

50:13THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR

50:16FILING THIS AND THANK YOU TO

50:17THE CHAIR.

50:19THANK YOU, COUNCILOR WEBER.

50:21UM, YEAH.

50:22UH, A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I

50:23HAD HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED BY

50:25MY COLLEAGUES, BUT.

50:26I DO HAVE I WANT TO KIND

50:27OF DRILL IN MORE TO OKAY.

50:30IF WE.

50:31DO WANT TO BRING THIS FORWARD,

50:33UM.

50:34>> YOU KNOW WHAT IT.

50:34>> WHAT.

50:35IT MAY MEAN.

50:35>> JUST LIKE THE REALITY

50:36OF LIKE THE STATE LAW AND ALL

50:39OF THAT, UM.

50:40AND JUST LIKE THE LIKE THE

50:42DOING DOING A.

50:43STREET AND THE CITY SHARING THE

50:45COST IS A NOBLE ENDEAVOR.

50:49LIKE I 100%.

50:50AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE.

50:53HELPING RESIDENTS AS MUCH AS WE

50:54CAN.

50:55AND FIXING ROADS, UM, TO.

50:58LIKE THE FULLEST EXTENT THAT

51:00WE.

51:00CAN BUT IN LIKE THERE ARE

51:03THINGS THAT WE OBVIOUSLY.

51:04>> HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.

51:05LIKE IN.

51:06>> THE.

51:06LONGER TERM DOES THAT

51:08INVESTMENT MAKE.

51:09SENSE IF FOR.

51:10EXAMPLE WE DO JUST RESURFACING

51:12AND THAT'S UP.

51:13TO YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST.

51:15ASSUMING THAT.

51:16>> THAT IS UP TO 25% OF OF WHAT

51:19NEEDS TO.

51:20HAPPEN LIKE SHOULD WE

51:22RESURFACE.

51:23IF ULTIMATELY THAT.

51:24DRAINAGE AND THIS HAS HAPPENED.

51:26BEFORE EVEN JUST WITH NORMAL

51:27WORK.

51:28IF THAT DRAINAGE.

51:29IS GOING TO.

51:30>> GO INTO PEOPLE'S.

51:30HOMES OR IF THAT WATER.

51:32IS GOING TO BE.

51:33CORROSIVE AND.

51:33IT'S GOING.

51:34>> TO BE.

51:35UM, YOU KNOW, BACK TO.

51:36SQUARE ONE AT THE END OF THE

51:38DAY.

51:38AND IN JUST.

51:39>> A FEW YEARS OR A COUPLE OF.

51:41DECADES BUT I THINK IT'S

51:42ALREADY BEEN YOU KNOW, I HAD A

51:44FEW TECHNICAL.

51:44QUESTIONS ABOUT LIKE WHAT IT

51:45MEANS TO.

51:46RESURFACE WITHOUT DOING

51:47DRAINAGE AND.

51:48UTILITY WORK AND UM, I THINK

51:50THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BUT.

51:51>> THE THE.

51:52ADA COMPONENT OF THIS IS

51:53SOMETHING THAT HASN'T REALLY.

51:54>> BEEN BROUGHT UP.

51:55SO UM, PERMANENT RESURFACING MY

51:59UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT.

51:59WOULD TRIGGER.

52:01ADA ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS

52:02.

52:03UM, THAT ROUTINE POTHOLE

52:07MAINTENANCE DOES NOT AND SO.

52:08THAT WOULD.

52:10ADD ON COSTS TO.

52:12>> THE CITY.

52:12SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE

52:13OUT HOW WE WOULD DISTINGUISH

52:14BETWEEN ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND

52:16PERMANENT ALTERATIONS THAT

52:18WOULD.

52:18>> TRIGGER ADA.

52:19OBLIGATIONS AND WHO.

52:22WHO WOULD BEAR THOSE COSTS.

52:24UM AND I MAYBE IT'S NOT A

52:26QUESTION FOR YOU, DAN.

52:27>> BUT IT IS A QUESTION FOR FOR

52:29LEGAL.

52:31UM AND THEN.

52:31WELL, I COULD YOU KNOW, IF IF

52:33THE.

52:33ABUTTERS WANTED TO RESURFACE

52:34THEY CERTAINLY COULD THEY

52:36WOULDN'T BE HELD UM TO THE ADA

52:40ACCESSIBILITY UM COMPLIANCE IF

52:43THEY JUST WANTED TO COME IN

52:43AND, YOU KNOW, GET ONE STRIP

52:45OF ASPHALT DOWN THE CENTER

52:46OF THE YOU KNOW, THEY COULD DO

52:48THAT BUT THAT WOULD CERTAINLY

52:50AFFECT DRAINAGE.

52:51UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASSUME

52:53THAT THEY WOULDN'T PAY FOR A

52:55SURVEY.

52:56TO DO.

52:57>> THAT THAT THEY WOULD JUST

52:57WANT TO KIND OF DO IT AND GET

52:58IT DONE AGAIN.

52:59YOU KNOW, EACH EACH PRIVATE

53:00WEIGH IS DIFFERENT.

53:02UM, AS FAR AS THE BETTERMENT

53:05PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY

53:07WERE TO COME IN AND DO IT AND

53:09AND UM, DO THE ASSESSMENT YES.

53:12THE STREET WOULD HAVE TO BE

53:14FULLY YOU KNOW, FULLY PUBLIC

53:16CITY SPECS, UM, ADA COMPLIANT

53:19SIDEWALKS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND

53:21THAT'S 53FT, YOU KNOW, SIDE TO

53:24SIDE.

53:25UM, A LOT OF THESE ALLEYS DON'T

53:28HAVE THAT.

53:30SO THERE'S.

53:30>> A PROBLEM.

53:31AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THAT

53:32PESKY STATE LAW.

53:32BUT UM, YOU KNOW.

53:35YOU IT.

53:37YEAH, THERE'S A LOT THERE.

53:38>> BUT IF THE ABUTTERS.

53:40WANTED TO COME IN AND JUST

53:41RESURFACE.

53:41>> IT.

53:41THEY COULD DO THAT.

53:46WITHOUT TRIGGERING WITHOUT

53:47TRIGGERING THE 88, YOU KNOW THE

53:48ADA COMPLIANT STUFF.

53:49OKAY.

53:50>> AND I DO HAVE UM.

53:52I MEAN AND THEN YOU'VE ALREADY

53:53GONE THROUGH THE EQUATION AND

53:55WHAT IT.

53:55WOULD MEAN.

53:56UH.

53:56>> IN TERMS OF.

53:57UM PAYMENT ON THEIR BEHALF.

53:59>> I HAVE HAD RESIDENTS IN EAST

54:01BOSTON FOR.

54:02GENEVA AND GENEVA STREET.

54:03I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS, UM,

54:05REFUSE.

54:06TO DO.

54:07>> THE.

54:07PROCESS BECAUSE.

54:07THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY

54:08WOULD NEED TO.

54:09>> PAY MORE IN TAXES.

54:11SO UM YEAH, THERE'S LIKE

54:12THERE'S A.

54:13BUNCH OF.

54:14DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THIS AND

54:16PERSPECTIVES.

54:16BUT I'M I'M.

54:17>> MORE CURIOUS ABOUT THE LIKE

54:19THE 25% THRESHOLD LIKE HOW

54:20WOULD YOU ALL CALCULATE.

54:21THAT LIKE.

54:22>> WOULD.

54:23IT BE.

54:23>> BY SURFACE AREA LINEAR

54:24FOOTAGE OR ANOTHER METRIC?

54:28YOU KNOW MAYBE IT'S A MOUNT

54:29IT'S BIG RIGHT?

54:30IT'S NOT SPECIFIC SO MAYBE IT'S

54:32A MOUNT THE TOTAL COST UM I

54:35DON'T I DON'T KNOW.

54:36I WILL.

54:37>> SAY THIS AS A.

54:38PUBLIC AS A PRIVATE WAY UM

54:40RESIDENT.

54:41IF THE CITY WANTED TO COME AND

54:42SAID HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE

54:43IT OVER AND FIX EVERYTHING AND

54:44ADD SIDEWALKS, I WOULDN'T WANT

54:46THAT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO

54:47AFFECT HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WE

54:49PARK UP IN THE IN THE IN THE

54:52PRIVATE WAY.

54:53SO YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT'S

54:54ANOTHER KIND OF NUANCE TO THINK

54:56ABOUT.

54:56UM, AND AGAIN, PROBABLY ONE

54:58OF THE REASONS THAT A LOT

54:59OF FOLKS LIVING ON PRIVATE

55:01WAVES DON'T.

55:01YOU KNOW, THEY THEY DON'T WANT

55:03ANYTHING DONE.

55:04YEAH.

55:05>> AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY ON

55:06GENEVA STREET UM UH, THERE ARE

55:08A COUPLE FAMILIES WHO ARE

55:10SAYING THAT THEY DON'T WANT,

55:11UM, THEIR PRIVATE WAY TO BE

55:13TURNED INTO A PUBLIC STREET.

55:14UM, OKAY.

55:15BUT YOU'RE SAYING LIKE IF.

55:16I THINK.

55:17>> THIS IS JUST A CLARIFYING

55:18POINT AND I APOLOGIZE.

55:19>> THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY.

55:20REDUNDANT AT THIS POINT.

55:21BUT JUST FOR ME.

55:23IF IF THEY.

55:23WANTED TO COME.

55:24>> IN THROUGH.

55:25THE THE PICK.

55:26PROCESS THE.

55:27RESIDENTS AND JUST DO.

55:28>> A LINE OF ASK BALL DOWN THE

55:29STREET.

55:30THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GO

55:32THROUGH THE ENTIRE BENEFIT

55:34PROCESS WHICH IS ENSURING THAT

55:35THERE'S DRAINAGE OR UTILITY OR.

55:37ADA ACCESSIBLE ROOMS.

55:38THEY COULD DO THAT.

55:39FULLY ON THEIR OWN.

55:40THEY WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO

55:41START THE PICK PROCESS.

55:42>> YOU KNOW THEY'RE.

55:43BASICALLY REPAIRING THEIR

55:44PRIVATE PROPERTY HOWEVER REALLY

55:46HOWEVER THEY WANT.

55:47BUT LIKE THE CITY WOULDN'T BE.

55:48COST SHARING IN THAT.

55:50UH NO.

55:51AND IF.

55:52>> THEY DID WANT THE CITY TO

55:53COST.

55:53SHARE IT WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE

55:54TO GO THROUGH THE.

55:55PROCESS OKAY.

55:56AND THEN THAT WOULD REQUIRE

55:57THEM TO TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE

56:00RIGMAROLE OF.

56:01EVERYTHING I JUST MENTIONED.

56:01CORRECT.

56:02>> OKAY.

56:04>> AND WELL YEAH.

56:05I LOT.

56:06>> TO THINK.

56:06>> ABOUT I MEAN AGAIN THIS IS

56:07A.

56:07THIS IS A GOOD INTENTIONS I

56:08JUST.

56:09THINK LIKE THINKING THROUGH IT

56:10OPERATIONALLY IT'S UM.

56:11IT'S A.

56:12>> LITTLE TOUGH AND SO ARE

56:13THINKING ABOUT OPERATIONAL

56:14FEASIBILITY OF ONE LAST

56:15QUESTION.

56:17UM DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBER

56:18OF HOW MANY PRIVATE WAYS

56:19CURRENTLY RECEIVE CITY FUNDED

56:21TEMPORARY REPAIRS?

56:22AND I GUESS HOW WOULD THIS

56:24ORDINANCE MEANINGFULLY IMPROVE

56:25THE CITY'S.

56:26ABILITY TO.

56:27ADDRESS REOCCURRING POTHOLES?

56:31UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT.

56:34I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR

56:35YOU.

56:35UM.

56:38THINKING NOW ABOUT HOW WE.

56:39>> COULD GET THAT.

56:41SO LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF THE

56:42311 COMPLAINT COMES IN WE CLOSE

56:45IT OUT AS A BUT AS OUR RESPONSE

56:48OKAY AND THEN WE COULD OR WE WE

56:50EITHER DO A DON'T REPAIR WHAT

56:52WE THINK IS NECESSARY.

56:56UM YEAH I'M TRYING TO THINK

56:57OF HOW I CAN.

56:58COULD COULD GET THAT NUMBER.

57:00I DON'T THINK WE COULD RIGHT

57:01NOW THE WAY WE CURRENTLY DO

57:02THINGS.

57:03OKAY.

57:03>> AND LET ME REPHRASE LIKE

57:04THE.

57:04SECOND PART.

57:05>> OF THE QUESTION I THINK.

57:06I'M I'M.

57:06INTERESTED IN.

57:07>> PRACTICALITY HERE.

57:08LIKE IS THE.

57:09PROPOSED FRAMEWORK SOMETHING

57:10THAT.

57:10PUBLIC WORKS WOULD BE ABLE TO.

57:12ADMINISTER OR.

57:14THINKING THROUGH.

57:14IF WE WERE.

57:15>> TO PUSH THIS FORWARD LIKE

57:16WHAT.

57:16AMENDMENTS YOU WOULD.

57:17RECOMMEND TO MAKE

57:19IMPLEMENTATION.

57:19MORE EFFECTIVE.

57:21IN TERMS OF US JUST TAKING THEM

57:23ALL OVER?

57:23YEAH.

57:24>> I THINK.

57:26>> IT'S IT'S SO HUGE.

57:29>> TO THINK ABOUT.

57:30I REALLY I PROBABLY NEED SOME

57:32TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.

57:33IT WOULD KIND OF BE TAKEN OUT

57:34OF HIGHWAY'S HANDS.

57:35IT WOULD GO RIGHT THROUGH THE

57:37PICK AND ENGINEERING UM IT'S

57:40YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF WORK IN

57:42SMALL TIGHT SPACES.

57:44UM.

57:45>> I IMAGINE I WOULDN'T EVEN

57:47GUESS TO GIVE YOU A IT WOULD BE

57:49HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS

57:50OF DOLLARS.

57:50OKAY?

57:51>> MULTIPLE HUNDREDS OF MILLION

57:52.

57:53YOU KNOW.

57:53IT WOULD BE A LOT.

57:55YEAH.

57:55>> AND I MEAN WE ARE I WOULD

57:57LOVE TO UNDERSTAND AND JUST

57:58MAKING A FORMAL.

57:59REQUEST THAT WE CAN FOLLOW.

58:00UP THROUGH IG.

58:01ARE LIKE GETTING ANY SORT OF.

58:03AND I WAS YOU KNOW ALSO TO

58:05COUNCIL FITZGERALD'S POINT

58:06LIKE.

58:07WHATEVER WE CAN.

58:09USE ESPECIALLY LIKE A.

58:10DOLLAR AMOUNT OF WHAT THIS MAY.

58:12COST WOULD.

58:13>> BE HELPFUL FOR.

58:13US AS.

58:14>> WE MOVE FORWARD AS WE

58:15CONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL.

58:16SO JUST A BALLPARK.

58:19NUMBER WOULD BE HELPFUL TO.

58:20US PEOPLE MUCH SMARTER THAN I

58:21COULD PROBABLY TAKE THE UH, THE

58:23MILEAGE AND JUST ADD THE

58:25AVERAGE COST ON ON A YOU KNOW

58:27TO TO RECONSTRUCT A PRIVATE A.

58:28PUBLIC WAY.

58:29YEAH THAT WOULD BE A GOOD.

58:31START KNOWING THAT IT'S GOING

58:32TO BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT, YOU.

58:34>> KNOW RIGHT.

58:35BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE.

58:36THAT THEY'RE SET UP.

58:38OKAY I WOULD APPRECIATE.

58:39THAT THAT WOULD BE.

58:40HELPFUL AS WE.

58:41CONSIDER YOU KNOW UM THIS.

58:42AGAIN THIS PROPOSAL UM AND

58:45WHAT.

58:45>> WE WOULD NEED IN.

58:46TERMS OF STAFFING CAPACITY TO

58:48EVEN GET THIS DONE BUT UM.

58:51THAT'S IT FOR ME AND I

58:52APOLOGIZE COUNCIL.

58:52WELL, I'M JUST SEEING YOUR HAND

58:53UP NOW.

58:54WE'LL GO.

58:54>> TO SECOND ROUND

58:55OF QUESTIONING.

58:56UM, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY.

58:57INFORMATION THAT.

58:58>> WOULD.

58:58BE PERTINENT.

58:58AS CONVERSATION PLEASE FEEL

58:59FREE TO SHARE.

59:00UH THANK YOU CHAIR.

59:01AND JUST FOR.

59:03FLAHERTY, UM, WHAT WHAT WHAT

59:05THE ORDINANCE IS ASKING SIMILAR

59:08TO WHAT LIKE

59:09SUPERINTENDENT NEED HAS STATED

59:12IS THAT THEY DON'T CURRENTLY

59:14AUTOMATICALLY FILL POTHOLES ON

59:16PRIVATE WINGS.

59:20SO THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS JUST

59:22SAYING THAT THEY WILL

59:23AUTOMATICALLY FILL THE

59:26POTHOLES.

59:28AND CURRENTLY UNDER I'M SURE

59:31THEY DO IT IN PRACTICE UNDER

59:33THE CITY CODE THEY.

59:36ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE ASPHALT

59:41SO THIS JUST GIVES THEM IN THE

59:42CITY ORDINANCE UH THE ABILITY

59:45TO USE ASPHALT.

59:47SO WE JUST ASKING THEM TO

59:51AUTOMATICALLY UH FILL THE

59:54POTHOLES AND GIVE THE GIVE THEM

59:56IT UNDER THE CITY CODE THE

59:58ABILITY TO USE ASPHALT BUT THIS

1:00:00ORDINANCE IS NOT ASKING UM, US

1:00:03TO TAKE IT OVER THE WHOLE

1:00:05STREET.

1:00:05IT JUST GIVES YOU KNOW, THE

1:00:07PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UH,

1:00:09THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK TO USE

1:00:12ASPHALT.

1:00:12UM, AND INSTEAD OF CLOSING IT

1:00:14OUT, UH, ONCE THEY GET IT

1:00:16AUTOMATICALLY CLOSING THAT ONCE

1:00:17THEY GET IT AND THEN GOING

1:00:19THROUGH THIS ASSESSMENT WHETHER

1:00:21OR NOT THEY SHOULD FILL THE

1:00:24POTHOLE, THEY'RE SAYING THAT

1:00:25THEY JUST SHOULD FILL THE

1:00:26POTHOLE.

1:00:27RIGHT.

1:00:28>> SO I.

1:00:29UNDERSTAND THAT JUST REALLY

1:00:29QUICK IF I.

1:00:30CAN UM REPLY.

1:00:32SO IT ALSO.

1:00:33REQUIRES US FOR.

1:00:34>> THE.

1:00:35CITY TO PROVIDE A COST SHARE.

1:00:36AND I THINK MY POINT IN WHICH I

1:00:38DIDN'T.

1:00:38ARTICULATE WELL IS THAT.

1:00:39IF WE ARE GOING TO BEAR THE

1:00:42COST.

1:00:43>> OF THIS IS IT HOW.

1:00:46ARE WE ACTUALLY MAXIMIZING OUR

1:00:48INVESTMENT INTO THE.

1:00:49STREET IF IT IS JUST A BAND-AID

1:00:51TO.

1:00:51FILL THE.

1:00:52>> POTHOLE WITH ASPHALT.

1:00:53LIKE IT WOULD, IT WOULD BEHOOVE

1:00:55US TO THINK.

1:00:57>> TO.

1:00:57RESURFACE THE STREET BECAUSE

1:00:58THERE.

1:00:58ARE UNDERLYING ISSUES ANYWAY AS

1:01:01TO.

1:01:01WHY THERE'S POTHOLES THERE.

1:01:03SO I MEAN LIKE FOR ME I

1:01:05WOULDN'T WANT OUR TAX DOLLARS

1:01:07TO.

1:01:08CONTINUOUSLY GO INTO.

1:01:10BAND-AIDS RATHER THAN.

1:01:12>> THINKING.

1:01:12ABOUT MORE HOLISTICALLY.

1:01:13HOW WE.

1:01:13CAN BETTER THE STREET IN ITS

1:01:16ENTIRETY.

1:01:17UM, SO THAT I MEAN THAT'S JUST.

1:01:19WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THIS.

1:01:22YEAH, I'LL I'LL STOP IT THERE.

1:01:24YEAH.

1:01:24>> NO AND.

1:01:25I I HEAR THAT AND THEN I GUESS

1:01:28THAT'S.

1:01:29DEFINITELY STUFF THAT WE SHOULD

1:01:31DISCUSS IN THE IN THE WORKING

1:01:32SESSION.

1:01:34UM ON THEN THAT I GUESS THAT

1:01:36AND GOES INTO THE WHOLE COST

1:01:38RIGHT THE WHOLE COST AND THEN

1:01:40WHAT GETS TRIGGERED ONCE YOU

1:01:42MOVE FROM A BAND-AID SOLUTION

1:01:44TO A UM A MORE HOLISTIC

1:01:46APPROACH?

1:01:47UM.

1:01:48BUT MY UNDERSTANDING AND I

1:01:51DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR

1:01:53FROM THE MAYOR ON THIS AND I

1:01:56JUST DID LIKE A QUICK RESEARCH

1:01:57ONLINE IS THAT WE HAD THE

1:02:00ABILITY TO DEFINE WHAT

1:02:01TEMPORARY FIXES ARE ON OUR

1:02:03STREETS, UM, DUE TO STATE LAW

1:02:06AND I'VE SEEN UM OTHER TOWNS

1:02:12SEEN A RESURFACING COULD BE FOR

1:02:14THEY HAVE USED THAT AS A

1:02:16TEMPORARY FIX THE RESURFACING

1:02:20AS A TEMPORARY FIX.

1:02:24UM AND THE COST HERE UM FROM

1:02:29FROM THE CITY ORDINANCE IT

1:02:32ALREADY EXISTS IN SECTION C UM

1:02:35AND.

1:02:38I UNDER STATE LAW IT SOUNDS

1:02:41LIKE WE CAN ADDRESS, UM, THE

1:02:42DRAINAGE ISSUE.

1:02:45YEAH.

1:02:46>> YEAH.

1:02:47IT JUST THAT THAT THAT'S A LOT

1:02:48THAT'S A LOT IF WE'RE MOVING

1:02:50FORWARD TO DEFINING RESURFACING

1:02:52AS A TEMPORARY FIX THAT THEN WE

1:02:55GET INTO WE CAN'T JUST SEPARATE

1:02:58RESURFACING FROM DRAINAGE OR

1:03:01ADA COMPLIANCE OR LIKE SIDEWALK

1:03:03WIDTH AND ALL OF THAT UNLESS

1:03:05THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE

1:03:06OWNERS WANT TO PRIVATELY DO

1:03:07THEMSELVES RIGHT.

1:03:08LIKE WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT

1:03:10AS LIKE THE ENTIRETY OF OF THE

1:03:12PROCESS.

1:03:13SO THEN DOES THAT INCLUDE LIKE

1:03:16IF WE'RE DEFINING RESURFACING

1:03:18AS A TEMPORARY FIX?

1:03:20UM AND I'M ALSO SAYING THAT

1:03:22YEAH AS LIKE WE HAVE THE

1:03:24ABILITY TO DEFINE WHAT A

1:03:26TEMPORARY FIX IS.

1:03:28RIGHT.

1:03:28>> SO I'M JUST SAYING LIKE.

1:03:29THAT IS AN OPTION UNDER STATE

1:03:30LAW.

1:03:31I'M JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT

1:03:33THERE SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE

1:03:35DO DIVE INTO THE WORK IN

1:03:36SESSION, UH, WE KNOW WHAT OUR

1:03:38OPTIONS ARE.

1:03:39OKAY.

1:03:40>> AND, UH, LIKE A PERMANENT SO

1:03:42I DON'T KNOW.

1:03:43I THINK IT'S GETTING INTO THE

1:03:46GRAY AREA HERE WHERE IF WE'RE

1:03:49RESURFACING AND BUILDING

1:03:51SIDEWALKS OUT AND THEN GOING

1:03:53UNDERGROUND AND NEEDING TO MAKE

1:03:54SURE THAT UTILITIES ARE UP TO

1:03:56CODE WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE

1:03:58AND CAN THAT STILL BE

1:03:59CONSIDERED TEMPORARY.

1:04:03?

1:04:03>> RIGHT.

1:04:03RIGHT.

1:04:04AND I'M NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING

1:04:06TO DO IS JUST TO GET UM, YOU

1:04:08KNOW, REAL TEMPORARY FIXES, UM.

1:04:12TO THESE.

1:04:13PRIVATE WAYS KNOWING THAT, YOU

1:04:15KNOW, THE COST ON BRINGING IT

1:04:17BRING IT UP TO CODE.

1:04:19UH.

1:04:20>> CAN BE A LARGE AMOUNT FOR.

1:04:22SOME OF THESE PRIVATE WAYS.

1:04:23HAVE YOU KNOW MORE HOMES ON IT

1:04:26?

1:04:27RIGHT?

1:04:28UM, SO IT COULD BE VERY COSTLY

1:04:30.

1:04:30I WENT THROUGH A PROCESS AND

1:04:32YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 15.

1:04:35HOMES AND I THINK IT WAS UP

1:04:36CLOSE TO SIX FIGURES.

1:04:37FOR A PROPERTY OWNER.

1:04:39BUT AGAIN, LIKE WE'RE JUST TRY

1:04:41TO FIND A WAY.

1:04:41THIS ORDINANCE LOOKS TO.

1:04:42JUST DO A TEMPORARY FIX, GIVE

1:04:45THE CITY THE ABILITY TO USE

1:04:47ASPHALT.

1:04:48UM, BUT I DO HEAR.

1:04:51UM, THE.

1:04:52>> CONCERNS AROUND, UM, YOU

1:04:55KNOW, TEMPORARY BAND-AID BUT

1:04:56THOSE BAND-AIDS AND THOSE

1:04:57PLACES THAT HAVE HAD MINIMAL

1:05:00REPAIRS THEY THEY DO GO A LONG

1:05:02WAY.

1:05:03THEY DO.

1:05:04GO A LONG WAY AND AND

1:05:05OFTENTIMES WHAT I'VE WHAT I'VE

1:05:08HEARD IS THAT THERE'S YOU KNOW,

1:05:11IT COULD BE UH, A UM A OVERAGE

1:05:16OR EXTRA SUPPLY OF ASPHALT, UM.

1:05:19>> IN THE CITY.

1:05:20SO I THINK THAT IT DOES GIVES

1:05:22US THE.

1:05:22ABILITY AND MAYBE THAT'S HOW

1:05:24THE ASSESSMENT HAPPENS.

1:05:25BUT JUST TRYING TO GIVE US THAT

1:05:27FLEXIBILITY.

1:05:28ON REPAIRING.

1:05:28THESE UM, TYPE OF WAYS.

1:05:31IS THE TYPE OF RELIEF THAT THIS

1:05:33ORDINANCE LOOKS TO SOLVE.

1:05:35UH.

1:05:36>> MY MY MY LAST QUESTION.

1:05:38UM, IS AROUND.

1:05:43HOW MANY HOW MANY AND YOU MIGHT

1:05:46HAVE NOTICED.

1:05:47>> MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR

1:05:48TODD.

1:05:48HOW MANY.

1:05:50STREETS HAVE.

1:05:51GONE THROUGH THE PICK.

1:05:52PROCESS AND THEN ONCE.

1:05:54THEY REALIZE.

1:05:55>> HOW MUCH THE.

1:05:56COST IS YOU KNOW, THEY DECIDED.

1:05:58THEY NO LONGER.

1:05:59>> WANT TO PURSUE.

1:06:00DO YOU DO YOU.

1:06:01>> KNOW THAT I.

1:06:02KNOW OF ONE SHARON STREET?

1:06:04OKAY.

1:06:05>> UM.

1:06:06WE DIDN'T DISCUSS.

1:06:07STREETS THAT DIDN'T.

1:06:09GO THROUGH.

1:06:09UM, I'M SURE TODD CAN GET YOU

1:06:11THAT INFO.

1:06:12YEAH.

1:06:12>> OKAY.

1:06:13>> YEAH.

1:06:14THAT'S AND AND AND DO YOU KNOW,

1:06:16LIKE A RANGE OF WHAT THESE

1:06:21COSTS WILL CONVERT CONVERTING

1:06:22AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED ABOUT

1:06:23CONVERTING THIS IS ABOUT

1:06:24TEMPORARY.

1:06:25FIXES BUT THIS IS JUST JUST

1:06:27FOR.

1:06:28MY CURIOSITY.

1:06:30ARE YOU TALKING LIKE TO TO GO

1:06:32THROUGH THE PROCESS.

1:06:33IN THE ADA.

1:06:34COMPLIANT AND ALL THAT STUFF?

1:06:35WELL I'D BE TAKING A BUT I'D BE

1:06:37TAKING A WILD GUESS.

1:06:40UM YOU KNOW SO IT WOULD IT

1:06:43WOULD DEPEND ON THE STREET.

1:06:43IT WOULD DEPEND.

1:06:44RIGHT?

1:06:44YEAH.

1:06:45YEAH DEFINITELY WOULD BE

1:06:47DIFFERENT.

1:06:47YEAH.

1:06:48WHAT'S EXISTING IF THERE'S IF

1:06:50THERE'S WATER AND SEWER

1:06:51CALCULATIONS AT THIS PRIVATE

1:06:52GAUGE.

1:06:53RIGHT NOW AND I GET.

1:06:55>> IT I GUESS I CAN GIVE YOU A

1:06:57NUMBER BUT DON'T HOLD IT, YOU

1:06:58KNOW?

1:06:59YEAH.

1:06:59YEAH, I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA.

1:07:01THE ONE PRIVATE WAY.

1:07:03PROCESS I WENT THROUGH, UH, IT

1:07:06WAS ACTUALLY A NEW DEVELOPMENT

1:07:09.

1:07:09THEY WERE ALL NEW HOMES

1:07:10PROBABLY NO LESS THAN TEN YEARS

1:07:11OLD.

1:07:12UH, ON A NEW STREET.

1:07:15UM.

1:07:15AND TO.

1:07:16CONVERT THAT PRIVATE WAY WITH.

1:07:18>> YOU WHICH WAS A NEW STREET

1:07:19OVER TO A PUBLIC WAY.

1:07:21UH, THAT THAT COST.

1:07:23RESIDENT.

1:07:23>> UH.

1:07:24>> UP TO SIX FIGURES ON A

1:07:26STREET THAT WAS ONLY TEN YEARS

1:07:27OLD.

1:07:27OKAY, JUST IMAGINE ON ALL THE

1:07:29STREET.

1:07:30UM, BUT, UM, SUPERINTENDING THE

1:07:32DATE.

1:07:34OH, MY LAST QUESTION.

1:07:35WHEN IT COMES TO FILLING THE

1:07:38POTHOLES, WOULD.

1:07:38YOU NEED.

1:07:40ADDITIONAL, UM, EMPLOYEES OR

1:07:44WOULD THAT BE.

1:07:45>> AN ADDITIONAL COST?

1:07:47UM, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT YOUR

1:07:49ABILITY.

1:07:49TO.

1:07:50>> UM, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENT JUST

1:07:53THE.

1:07:53FILLING OF THE POTHOLES?

1:07:55I MEAN, SURE, THERE'S MAN HOURS

1:07:56DEVOTED TO IT.

1:07:57WE'RE DOING IT NOW IN CERTAIN

1:08:00CASES.

1:08:00UM, WE ARE.

1:08:02BELOW STAFFING LEVEL.

1:08:04UM, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFFING YOU

1:08:05KNOW, WE HAVE OPEN POSITIONS,

1:08:06MANY OPEN POSITIONS THAT I

1:08:07WOULD LOVE TO GET FILLED.

1:08:09UM, NO, I MEAN WE'RE DOING IT

1:08:12NOW.

1:08:12YEAH.

1:08:12THERE'S A THERE'S A MAN OUR

1:08:14COST AND MATERIAL COST, YOU

1:08:17KNOW, WHICH IS RELATIVELY SMALL

1:08:19WHEN COMPARED TO RECONSTRUCTION

1:08:21.

1:08:22ALL RIGHT.

1:08:22>> ALL RIGHT.

1:08:23WELL THANK YOU SUPERINTENDENT.

1:08:25YOU'RE WELCOME.

1:08:31SORRY I WAS MUTED.

1:08:34UM OKAY.

1:08:35UH, THIS WAS THIS WAS A GREAT

1:08:36CONVERSATION.

1:08:37I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THERE'S

1:08:39MORE TO CONSIDER.

1:08:45UM THERE'S JUST YEAH THERE'S A

1:08:47LOT HERE.

1:08:48UM, AND I KNOW IT IS JUST

1:08:49TRYING TO SEEK A TEMPORARY FIX

1:08:51.

1:08:51I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A

1:08:52BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU

1:08:54KNOW, MAXIMIZING CITY DOLLARS

1:08:56AND, UM, WHAT MAY WHAT MAY MAKE

1:09:00SENSE FOR EACH NEIGHBORHOOD OR

1:09:02EVEN ON AN INDIVIDUAL STREET.

1:09:04UM, AND I WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO

1:09:06IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE THIS

1:09:07FORWARD JUST THINKING THROUGH

1:09:08IT, WE'D HAVE TO SET UP MAYBE A

1:09:11SEPARATE TRACK WITHIN THE PARK

1:09:14TO DO THIS WHERE IF IT'S NOT

1:09:15THE ENTIRE BETTERMENT PROCESS

1:09:18AND IT'S JUST RESURFACING.

1:09:21WELL ACTUALLY NO I I SAY THAT

1:09:22OUT LOUD NOW OR IF THEY JUST

1:09:23WANT TO DO THE TEMPORARY FIX.

1:09:25UM, I'D LOVE TO TALK TO MAYBE

1:09:28TODD MY OR UM, I FORGOT HER

1:09:31NAME.

1:09:32I KNOW SHE HAS GLASSES.

1:09:32AMY CALL ME.

1:09:34YEAH.

1:09:34>> AMY ABOUT WHAT THEIR PROCESS

1:09:36LOOKS LIKE AND IF THERE WOULD

1:09:37NEED TO BE A SEPARATE TRACK FOR

1:09:39SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

1:09:41UM, OKAY.

1:09:42WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER

1:09:44COLLEAGUES ON.

1:09:45WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

1:09:47I'LL WHILE WE SET UP FOLKS WHO

1:09:49HAVE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC

1:09:50TESTIMONY, MAYBE WE CAN TEE UP

1:09:51THE VIDEOS AND, UM, AND GO FROM

1:09:55THERE.

1:09:55I THINK WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC

1:09:58TESTIMONY, UM, VIDEOS THAT WE

1:10:00NEED TO WEIGH.

1:10:03THERE WE GO.

1:10:04THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1:10:08HI.

1:10:09>> MY NAME IS DOUG WOODHOUSE.

1:10:10I'M A RESIDENT OF BOSTON

1:10:12ROSLINDALE.

1:10:12I ALSO LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY.

1:10:15I JUST WANT TO, UH, SPEAK IN

1:10:17SUPPORT OF THE, UM,

1:10:19COUNCILOR WORLDS PROPOSAL AND

1:10:21TO THANK HIM AND ALSO

1:10:23COUNCILOR MURPHY FOR

1:10:23CO-SPONSORING IT.

1:10:25UH, OUR ROAD IS IN HORRIBLE

1:10:27DISREPAIR.

1:10:28UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO MY WIFE

1:10:29AND I PAID A PAVING COMPANY TO

1:10:31FIX UP THE POTHOLES IN FRONT

1:10:32OF OUR HOUSE WHICH THEY DID AND

1:10:35WHICH IS NOW BACK TO BE IN

1:10:36HORRIBLE SHAPE.

1:10:38UM, THIS IS BECAUSE THE

1:10:39STRUCTURE HERE IS PARTICULARLY

1:10:40DANGEROUS IN THE WINTER WHEN

1:10:41THE SNOW MELTS, UM AND THEN

1:10:43FREEZES AGAIN JUST BECOMES ALL

1:10:45ICE.

1:10:45UH, WE HAD SEVERAL DAYS WHERE

1:10:47THE POST OFFICE DIDN'T DELIVER

1:10:49MAIL FOR US BECAUSE THEY SAID

1:10:50IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS FOR THE,

1:10:52UH, MAIL CARRIERS TO WALK DOWN

1:10:53OUR STREET.

1:10:54UM, UH, THERE ARE ELDERLY

1:10:58PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE WHO USED

1:10:59TO RIDE.

1:11:00THERE ARE, UH, CHILDREN HERE

1:11:02WHO USE, UH, DOOR TO DOOR BUS

1:11:04SERVICE.

1:11:05UM, BUS HAS HAD TO COME DOWN

1:11:07THIS ROAD.

1:11:08I WORRY THAT AT SOME POINT, UH

1:11:10,TRASH TRUCKS WON'T BE ABLE TO

1:11:11COME DOWN THIS ROAD OR, UM, FOR

1:11:14RECYCLING OR ANY OF THAT.

1:11:16UH, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO MY

1:11:19NEIGHBORS FINANCE OF THIS, BUT

1:11:21I CAN SAY WITH CONFIDENCE I

1:11:23DON'T THINK OUR STREET CAN

1:11:26MAINTAIN, UH, THIS ROAD ON OUR

1:11:29OWN.

1:11:29I WOULD REALLY LIKE IF THE CITY

1:11:31OF BOSTON COULD HELP US WITH

1:11:32THESE.

1:11:32ANOTHER GIANT POTHOLE.

1:11:34I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT IF

1:11:36BOSTON WERE ABLE TO HELP US

1:11:37KIND OF MAINTAIN THE

1:11:39INFRASTRUCTURE HERE.

1:11:40UM, ANYHOW, THIS WHOLE THIS

1:11:43WHOLE ROAD IS JUST, UH, REALLY

1:11:46BAD.

1:11:46IT'S RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT JUST

1:11:48RAINED.

1:11:48YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE HOW DEEP

1:11:49THEY ARE.

1:11:50BUT THAT BIG ONE AND THAT ONE

1:11:51IS INCREDIBLY DEEP.

1:11:53UM, WE CAN'T DRIVE IF YOU HAVE

1:11:56A, UH, LIKE A SUV OR A CRV OR

1:11:59ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN GET

1:12:00DOWN THIS WAY.

1:12:00BUT IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER CAR

1:12:02THAN THAT IT SCRAPES THE BOTTOM

1:12:03.

1:12:04UM I CAN'T I COULD TELL YOU

1:12:07ACTUALLY CAUSE I SAVE ALL THE

1:12:08RECEIPTS BUT UH, YOU KNOW, THE

1:12:10AMOUNT OF TIMES I'VE HAD TO,

1:12:12UH, REPLACED MY TIRES BECAUSE

1:12:14THEY'VE GOTTEN DAMAGE ON THIS

1:12:15ROAD.

1:12:16UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY IT'S

1:12:18MONEY THAT I CAN'T BE PUTTING

1:12:19TOWARDS MAINTAINING THE ROADS.

1:12:20I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP MY

1:12:22CAR ROLLING.

1:12:24SO ANYHOW, I JUST WANTED TO

1:12:25GIVE YOU A A QUICK TOUR OVER MY

1:12:27SHOULDER OF OUR ROAD AND, UH, I

1:12:30JUST HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL,

1:12:33UH, YOU KNOW, APPROVE

1:12:35COUNCILOR WORLDS PROPOSAL AND

1:12:37THAT, UH, SOME MAINTENANCE

1:12:38COULD USING ASPHALT COULD BE

1:12:39DONE ON OUR ON OUR STREET

1:12:41BECAUSE IT REALLY, REALLY NEEDS

1:12:42IT AND WE REALLY CAN'T UM I

1:12:46REALLY DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT

1:12:48WITHOUT YOUR HELP.

1:12:49ALL RIGHT.

1:12:49THANKS SO MUCH.

1:12:51HI EVERYONE.

1:12:52MY NAME IS FAMED LUMLEY.

1:12:53MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO

1:12:55BOSTON A YEAR AND A HALF AGO

1:12:57AND WE'RE RESIDENTS

1:12:59OF DORCHESTER LIVING ON A

1:13:00PRIVATE WAY.

1:13:00I'M SUBMITTING THIS VIDEO IN

1:13:03SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED

1:13:04ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS PRIVATELY

1:13:06POTHOLES TO INCLUDE ASPHALT AS

1:13:08ONE OF THE REPAIR METHODS ON

1:13:10PRIVATE WAYS.

1:13:11WHILE I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY

1:13:13SHOULD BE RESURFACING AND

1:13:15COMPLETELY REPLACING THESE

1:13:17PRIVATE WAVES THAT ARE IN

1:13:19COMPLETE DISREPAIR, I DO

1:13:20BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSED

1:13:22ORDINANCE IS A STEP IN THE

1:13:24RIGHT DIRECTION TO MAKING SURE

1:13:25THAT PRIVATE WAYS ARE SAFE TO

1:13:28TRAVEL ON.

1:13:29AS YOU'LL SEE FROM THE PHOTOS

1:13:31THAT I'M GOING TO SHARE RIGHT

1:13:33NOW, THE PRIVATE WAY ON WHICH

1:13:35WE LIVE WAS IN MAJOR DISREPAIR

1:13:37UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE

1:13:39POTHOLES FILLED ON THE STREET.

1:13:41UM IT WAS INCREDIBLY UNSAFE.

1:13:43THERE WERE PEOPLE TRIPPING ON

1:13:45THE HOLES BECAUSE OF HOW DEEP

1:13:47THEY HAD BECOME, AND IT LOOKS

1:13:49LIKE THEY WERE IN DISREPAIR FOR

1:13:50A NUMBER OF YEARS.

1:13:51UM, EVEN BEFORE WE MOVED IN

1:13:53THERE WAS STANDING WATER IN

1:13:56EVERY SINGLE POTHOLE BECAUSE

1:13:57OF HOW DEEP THEY WERE EVERY

1:13:58SINGLE TIME IT RAINED AND THE

1:14:02VEHICLES ON OUR STREET WOULD BE

1:14:04TRYING TO DODGE THE NUMBER

1:14:07OF POTHOLES ON THE STREET

1:14:08BECAUSE OF THE RISK OF GETTING

1:14:11THE TIRES DAMAGED.

1:14:13I SUPPORT THE ADDITION

1:14:15OF ASPHALT TO THE TYPES

1:14:16OF MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED

1:14:17TO REPAIR POTHOLES ON PRIVATE

1:14:19WAYS BECAUSE THE ASPHALT

1:14:21PROVIDES DURABILITY UNDER HEAVY

1:14:24TRAFFIC AND WEATHER CONDITIONS.

1:14:26I BELIEVE THAT THE ADDITION

1:14:28OF ASPHALT TO THE TYPES

1:14:29OF MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED

1:14:31TO REPAIR POTHOLES WILL ADDRESS

1:14:33THE NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT I

1:14:35RAISED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS

1:14:36VIDEO WHICH TO RECAP AGAIN ARE

1:14:39SAFETY ISSUES THAT I HAD PUBLIC

1:14:40HEALTH CONCERNS WITH STANDING

1:14:42WATER ISSUES AND THE POTENTIAL

1:14:45DAMAGE TO CARS BECAUSE OF HOW

1:14:47DEEP POTHOLES HAVE BECOME ON A

1:14:49NUMBER OF PRIVATE WAYS.

1:14:51FRANKLY, I NEVER THOUGHT I

1:14:52WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO'S MAKING A

1:14:54VIDEO ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE

1:14:56OF MATERIALS TO BE USED TO

1:14:57REPAIR POTHOLES, BUT HERE WE

1:14:59ARE AT THE END OF THE DAY

1:15:00THOUGH MY HUSBAND AND I ARE

1:15:02TAXPAYERS JUST LIKE ALL OF THE

1:15:04PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON OUR STREET

1:15:06AND WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT OUR

1:15:09TAXPAYER DOLLARS CAN GO TOWARDS

1:15:10THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE

1:15:12OF OUR ROADS BECAUSE WE USE OUR

1:15:16STREETS.

1:15:16BUT SO DO PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE

1:15:18ON OUR STREETS.

1:15:19AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS

1:15:21ORDINANCE PASSES AND WE CAN

1:15:23TAKE A STEP IN THE RIGHT

1:15:24DIRECTION.

1:15:25THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME

1:15:26AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING

1:15:27ME OUT.

1:15:31GREAT.

1:15:32>> THANK YOU TO THOSE RESIDENTS

1:15:33FOR THEIR VIDEOS.

1:15:34UM NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC

1:15:35TESTIMONY.

1:15:36I THINK I WILL JUST TAKE A JUST

1:15:38A QUICK MINUTE BECAUSE I WOULD

1:15:39LOVE TO GET THESE QUESTIONS ON

1:15:40THE RECORD AND THEN MAKE SURE

1:15:41THAT WE GET THIS INFORMATION

1:15:42MOVING FORWARD.

1:15:43UM, SO UM, JUST UH TO

1:15:46SUPERINTENDENT NE IF IT'S OKAY

1:15:47IF YOU DON'T HAVE THESE

1:15:48QUESTIONS NOW BUT I WOULD LOVE

1:15:50LIKE A FOLLOW UP FROM YOU OR

1:15:51YOUR YOUR DEPARTMENT JUST

1:15:53THINKING ABOUT THE TEMPORARY

1:15:54FIXES.

1:15:55UM, ON AVERAGE HOW LONG DOES IT

1:15:57TAKE FOR ASPHALT IN PARTICULAR

1:15:59TO DEGRADE IF UTILIZE TO FILL

1:16:02POTHOLES AND THEN HOW?

1:16:06THE SECOND QUESTION IS HOW MUCH

1:16:07WOULD IT COST WITH UM INITIAL

1:16:11REPAIRS IF WE WOULD IF WE WERE

1:16:14TO PUSH THIS FORWARD LIKE

1:16:15ACROSS THE CITY AND THEN YEAR

1:16:18OVER YEAR WHAT THAT ANNUAL

1:16:21MAINTENANCE COST IS.

1:16:24WELL I'LL ANSWER THE FIRST ONE.

1:16:26I MEAN THE SECOND ONE FIRST.

1:16:27YOU KNOW, IN A PERFECT WORLD IF

1:16:28WE HAVE A SNAP OUR FINGERS AND

1:16:31MAGICALLY JUST RECONSTRUCT ALL

1:16:32THE PRIVATE PRIVATE WAYS AND

1:16:34THEY HAD YOU KNOW, THEY WERE

1:16:36COMPLIANT AND THEY HAD ENOUGH

1:16:37SPACE UM, WE CAN PROBABLY GET

1:16:40YOU A NUMBER, YOU KNOW, BASED

1:16:42ON THE MILEAGE.

1:16:43UM, YOU KNOW, AND MULTIPLY YOU

1:16:46KNOW, MULTIPLY THAT BY WHAT

1:16:47WE'RE PAYING ON PUBLIC STREETS

1:16:49.

1:16:49UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY

1:16:51DO THAT.

1:16:53UM, AS FAR AS THE FIRST

1:16:55QUESTION FOR, UM, HOW LONG

1:16:58OF IF ASKED WHAT WAS USED FOR A

1:16:59POTHOLE PATCH.

1:17:00SO WE ARE USING ASPHALT NOW TO

1:17:04PATCH PRIVATE WAYS IF THEY'RE

1:17:06IF THE EXISTING CONDITION IS

1:17:08ASPHALT.

1:17:08UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, THAT

1:17:12MIGHT BE ANOTHER RULE THAT I'VE

1:17:13BEEN BREAKING FOR YEARS.

1:17:15UM, BUT WE HAVE WE DO DO THAT.

1:17:18UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE

1:17:21PERFECT WORLD IF WE WERE TO

1:17:23PATCH A HOLE WITH ASPHALT AND

1:17:24THERE WERE NO UNDERLYING

1:17:26CONDITIONS.

1:17:26RIGHT.

1:17:27SO NO WATER RUNNING?

1:17:28NO.

1:17:29>> YOU KNOW.

1:17:29UM, SOIL UNDERNEATH DEGRADING.

1:17:32IN 20, 30 YEARS ASPHALT HAS A

1:17:34VERY LIGHTWEIGHT USE.

1:17:35IT'S VERY DURABLE WHEN IT'S

1:17:37NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVELY

1:17:40AFFECTED WATER UTILITY CUTS YOU

1:17:42KNOW THAT THAT.

1:17:43THAT TYPE OF THING.

1:17:44YOU KNOW, IT DOES TAKE A LONG

1:17:46TIME.

1:17:47FOR ASPHALT TO BREAK DOWN, UM,

1:17:4920, 30 YEARS EASILY.

1:17:52OKAY.

1:17:52>> AND THIS IS PROBABLY A DUMB

1:17:54QUESTION AND I'M.

1:17:54>> SORRY THIS IS THE FOLLOW UP

1:17:55QUESTION.

1:17:55THE ASPHALT THAT YOU'RE USING

1:17:57IS THIS THE SAME THIS IS THE

1:17:59SAME MATERIAL THAT LIKE FLAKES

1:18:01OFF WHEN, UH, LIKE SNOW COMES

1:18:05OR YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE

1:18:06BLACK FLAKY MATERIAL THAT WE

1:18:08SEE MAYBE ON SIDEWALKS AND

1:18:10DEFINITELY STREETS.

1:18:12SO IT'S NOT THE SAME ASPHALT

1:18:14THAT WE USE TO PAVE ROADWAYS.

1:18:16IT'S CALLED A TENNIS UM TENNIS

1:18:19COURT OR TENNIS COURT TOP MIX.

1:18:21BASICALLY IT HAS A SMALLER

1:18:23AGGREGATE.

1:18:25UM SO IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S

1:18:26FINER IT'S IT'S.

1:18:28A YOU KNOW, IT'S THE THE

1:18:31ASPHALT FOR A ROADWAY IS BUILT

1:18:32WITH LARGER AT A GROUP AT GREAT

1:18:34MEANING IT'S YOU KNOW UM YOU

1:18:35KNOW THE PETROLEUM PRODUCTS BY

1:18:37TWO THIS IS ADDED TO A LARGER

1:18:39ROCK OR A STONE UM AND THAT

1:18:42BINDS TOGETHER AND THAT MAKES A

1:18:44VERY DURABLE ROADWAY.

1:18:45RIGHT.

1:18:45SO IT'S VERY STRONG.

1:18:47UM THE POTHOLES THE TOP MIX

1:18:49THAT WE USE FOR POTHOLES IS

1:18:50ALSO VERY STRONG.

1:18:51IT'S JUST USED WITH UH, SAND OR

1:18:54VERY, VERY SMALL STONES.

1:18:56UM, IT PROVIDES A BETTER SEAL

1:18:58IF YOU WILL.

1:18:59SO BE IT ADHERED ADHERES BETTER

1:19:02SO WATER DOESN'T ISN'T ABLE TO

1:19:03SEEP IN.

1:19:05UM CHEAPER WHICH IS WHAT JUST

1:19:07JUST POP US, UM, EASY TO WORK

1:19:09WITH.

1:19:10UM, SO YEAH SO IT'S YOU KNOW,

1:19:13IT'S RELATIVELY THE SAME.

1:19:15OKAY.

1:19:16>> THANK YOU.

1:19:16UM I APOLOGIZE THANK YOU FOR

1:19:18THE FOLKS ON PUBLIC TESTIMONY

1:19:19FOR INDULGE ME.

1:19:20UM, WE'LL GO TO VIRTUAL

1:19:21TESTIMONY WE HAVE WE'LL START

1:19:22WITH NANCY.

1:19:23UH, RICK AND THEN TERESA.

1:19:27I APOLOGIZE IF I'M SAYING YOUR

1:19:28NAME INCORRECTLY.

1:19:28UM, THEN WE HAVE TWO MORE FOLKS

1:19:30SIGNED UP, BUT WE'LL START WITH

1:19:31NANCY.

1:19:31UM, NANCY, PLEASE UNMUTE

1:19:34YOURSELF.

1:19:34UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR

1:19:36AFFILIATION AND YOU HAVE TWO

1:19:38MINUTES.

1:19:42HI.

1:19:42>> I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS.

1:19:44THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION

1:19:45.

1:19:46UM, MY NAME IS NANCY LEO AND I

1:19:48HAVE LIVED ON STELLA ROAD A

1:19:50PRIVATE WAY IN ROSLINDALE SINCE

1:19:521988.

1:19:53STELLA ROAD IS BETWEEN AMERICAN

1:19:56LEGION HIGHWAY AND HYDE PARK

1:19:58OF.

1:19:59THANK YOU COUNCILOR WORRELL FOR

1:20:02CREATING THIS ORDINANCE.

1:20:03I SUPPORT DOCKET 0807 ORDINANCE

1:20:07TO ADDRESS PRIVATE WAYS WAY

1:20:10POTHOLES.

1:20:11THAT SAID, THIS IS ONLY THE

1:20:13START TO ADDRESSING A LONG

1:20:14STANDING PROBLEM DUE TO

1:20:16ANTIQUATED LAWS OVER 100 YEARS

1:20:19AGO WHEN THIS FARMLAND AREA WAS

1:20:21DEVELOPED, STELLA ROAD WAS LEFT

1:20:23AS A PRIVATE WAY.

1:20:25COMMON PRACTICE IN THE CITY AND

1:20:26ACROSS THE STATE.

1:20:27WHEN I PURCHASED MY HOME 38

1:20:30YEARS AGO STILL A ROAD WAS IN

1:20:33DISREPAIR.

1:20:34A PRIVATE WAY IS NOT A MUST

1:20:36HAVE ON A HOMEBUYING LIST.

1:20:38IT COMES WITH THE PROPERTY

1:20:40PRIVATE WEIGHS A HEAVILY

1:20:41TRAFFICKED BY THE PUBLIC

1:20:43INCLUDING EMERGENCY VEHICLES

1:20:45NOT SIMPLY USED BY THE CURRENT

1:20:47PRIVATE WAY RESIDENTS.

1:20:49CITY INITIATIVES SUCH AS

1:20:51CUMMINGS STREET HAVE

1:20:52DRAMATICALLY INCREASED TRAFFIC

1:20:54ON PRIVATE WAYS.

1:20:57PRIVATE WAYS HAVE BEEN A

1:20:58GIVEAWAY FROM THE CITY TO

1:21:00DEVELOPERS FOR OVER 100 YEARS.

1:21:03DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE REQUIRED

1:21:05TO BUILD ROADS THAT MEET THE

1:21:06CITY STATE STANDARDS AND NOT

1:21:09SHIFT THIS RESPONSIBILITY AND

1:21:11COST ONTO FUTURE HOMEOWNERS OR

1:21:13BLAME THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS

1:21:15FOR SUBSTANDARD ROADS.

1:21:18CURRENT RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT BE

1:21:20RESPONSIBLE FOR SWEET DEALS

1:21:22GIVING TO DEVELOPERS FIVE, TEN,

1:21:2450 YEARS AGO CONSIDERING THE

1:21:28CONVERSION OF PRIVATE WAYS TO

1:21:30PUBLIC ROADS.

1:21:31CURRENT RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT

1:21:33SHOULD NOT ASSUME ADDITIONAL

1:21:35COST AND INCREASE TAXES.

1:21:37PRIVATE WAY RESIDENTS PAY CITY

1:21:39AND STATE TAXES WITH A PORTION

1:21:42OF THOSE BUDGETS GOING TO

1:21:44REPAIR ROADS.

1:21:45NONE OF THEIR TAX DOLLARS

1:21:47REPAIR THEIR PRIVATE WAYS DUE

1:21:49TO OUTDATED LAWS.

1:21:51THESE RESIDENTS ARE BEING ASKED

1:21:52TO PAY TWICE.

1:21:54PLEASE DON'T LET THIS ORDINANCE

1:21:56BE THE END OF THE DISCUSSION.

1:21:58I JUST WANT TO ADD TWO THINGS

1:22:00FROM THE CONVERSATION IS THAT

1:22:04UM YES THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS

1:22:06AS THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED

1:22:08HE LIKES HIS DEAD END STREET

1:22:09THE WAY IT IS.

1:22:10STILL THE ROADS ARE CUT

1:22:12THROUGH, IT IS USED AS A CUT

1:22:14THROUGH AND IT GETS WORSE AND

1:22:16WORSE OVER THE LAST HUNDRED

1:22:18YEARS.

1:22:18THE OTHER THING IS UM, IN TERMS

1:22:22OF BUDGETING I THINK THAT

1:22:24HERE'S A CREATIVE FINANCIAL

1:22:26CONCEPT THAT THE RESIDENTS ON A

1:22:28PRIVATE WAY.

1:22:30ALL MY TAXES ALL THEIR TAXES ON

1:22:32THEIR PRIVATE WAY GO INTO A

1:22:34SPECIAL FUND, NOT GO INTO THE

1:22:36WHOLE GENERAL BUZZ BUDGET FOR 5

1:22:38OR 10 YEARS AND THEN THAT MONEY

1:22:40CAN BE USED TO REPAIR THAT

1:22:42STREET.

1:22:42SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS HAVE TO

1:22:45BE FOUND FOR THESE ANTIQUATED

1:22:47LAWS AND AS UM UH GABRIEL'S THE

1:22:51PART THAT SAID WE NEED WE DO

1:22:53NEED TO CHANGE THE LAWS.

1:22:55IT MAY TAKE TIME BUT PLEASE

1:22:57ADDRESS CHANGING THESE LAWS AND

1:22:59EVERYTHING ISN'T A ONE SIZE

1:23:01FITS ALL.

1:23:01AS YOU MENTIONED, MY STREET

1:23:03ISN'T WIDE ENOUGH.

1:23:04MAYBE SIDEWALKS CAN'T BE ON

1:23:06BOTH SIDES BUT THEY COULD BE ON

1:23:08HAVE ONE SIDE.

1:23:09THERE NEEDS TO BE CREATIVE

1:23:10THINKING TO REALLY CHANGE THIS.

1:23:12IT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S JUST BEEN

1:23:14KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR 100

1:23:16YEARS.

1:23:16THANK YOU.

1:23:18THANK YOU NANCY.

1:23:19UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE RICK AND

1:23:22THEN THERESA AND THEN SHIRLEY.

1:23:41OR BAYSHORE.

1:23:43THERE WE GO.

1:23:45THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR.

1:23:47>> THIS, UH, THIS HEARING OUT.

1:23:50ON MY COUNSELOR, UH, BRIAN

1:23:52WORRELL.

1:23:53I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR BEING

1:23:55INVOLVED IN THIS AND, UH, THE

1:23:58COMMISSIONER IT'S, A, UH, VERY

1:24:00INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION.

1:24:01UH, IT MADE THE COMPLEXITY

1:24:03OF THIS PROBLEM.

1:24:05UM, I'M A CO-LEADER OF THE

1:24:06MOUNT HOPE CANTERBURY

1:24:07NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ALONG

1:24:08AMERICAN LEGION HIGHWAY.

1:24:11UM, I DID A COUNT AND THE OTHER

1:24:14DAY WE HAVE, UH, TEN PRIVATE

1:24:17ROADS, UH, ADDING UP TO 40

1:24:20500FT.

1:24:21UH, THAT ONLY TWO OF THEM ARE

1:24:23DEAD ENDS AND THERE'S, YOU

1:24:25KNOW, DON'T GET MUCH TRAFFIC

1:24:26THE LAST WHILE, UH,

1:24:29INTERESTINGLY, YOUR FIRST VIDEO

1:24:32AND, UH, THE VIDEO FROM NANCY I

1:24:34BOTH UH UH, MEMBERS OF OUR

1:24:37COMMUNITY UH, THE FIRST ONE

1:24:39WITH THE BRADSTREET ROAD WHICH

1:24:42ALMOST INTERSECTS STELLA AND ON

1:24:45WHAT YOU SEE AND FROM THE VIDEO

1:24:49AND FROM NANCY'S PRESENTATION,

1:24:50WHAT YOU HEAR FROM NANCY'S

1:24:52PRESENTATION IS THE TYPICAL

1:24:54PROBLEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:24:56UM.

1:24:58I WON'T REPEAT WHAT EVERYBODY

1:25:00ELSE HAS SAID, BUT IT'S, UH

1:25:02IT'S SORT OF UNBELIEVABLE.

1:25:04WE'LL BE SEEING A ROAD LIKE

1:25:05THAT IN SUCH TERRIBLE CONDITION

1:25:07UH, HERE IN BOSTON AND AND UH,

1:25:10GOING ON FOR DECADES AND WE'RE

1:25:12IN THIS LOGJAM AT UH IT'S A I

1:25:15CAN SEE IT'S COMPLICATED, BUT,

1:25:17UM, IT'S A WORKING CLASS

1:25:19NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:25:21MANY, MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING

1:25:22TROUBLE JUST PAYING THEIR

1:25:23MORTGAGES TO TAKE ON AN

1:25:25EXPENSIVE TAKE TO DO THIS

1:25:26PRIVATELY IS JUST NOT GOING TO

1:25:27HAPPEN YET WE CONTINUE TO HAVE

1:25:30THESE, UH, TERRIBLE ROADWAYS.

1:25:33UM, I WAS THINKING WHEN WE'RE,

1:25:36UH, TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, WE

1:25:38HAVE PUBLIC ROADS IN OUR

1:25:40NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DON'T HAVE

1:25:42SIDEWALKS.

1:25:43UM, CANTERBURY PART OF, UH,

1:25:47CANTERBURY.

1:25:48UM.

1:25:49,ROAD AND UM, MOUNT CALVARY.

1:25:53UH, AND IT WOULD BE VERY

1:25:55DIFFICULT NOW IN SOME WAYS AND

1:25:58SOME PARTS OF THEM TO PUT IN

1:25:59SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THE ROAD IS

1:26:00SO NARROW LIKE ON ONE SIDE IT'S

1:26:02A DROP OFF AND THE OTHER SIDE

1:26:04OF SOMEONE'S HOUSE YOU'RE NOT

1:26:05GOING TO GET YOUR 53FT.

1:26:08SO BUT IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD AND

1:26:11IT GETS REPAIRED AND I MEAN

1:26:14IT'S THE SAME SITUATION YOU

1:26:15KNOW IT'S JUST HAPPENS TO BE

1:26:17PUBLIC AND IT GETS REPAIRED.

1:26:19A IT IS NOT GOING TO EVER BE

1:26:21SIDEWALKS OR UM SO I, I HOPE I

1:26:28SEE THIS UH THIS PROPOSAL AS A

1:26:32STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

1:26:33I SEE WE HAVE UH, DO HAVE A

1:26:35WAYS TO GO UH TO REALLY BE ABLE

1:26:39TO DO THE CORRECT UH UH,

1:26:43IMPROVEMENTS.

1:26:44UM, ONE QUESTION I'D HAVE IS IF

1:26:46I CAN JUST I THINK IT'S ON THE

1:26:48MAYBE MCALARY UM, THERE'S NO

1:26:53SIDEWALKS BUT THE THE THE

1:26:55ASPHALT WHEN IT GOES TO THE

1:26:57EDGES THEY BUILD IN A SMALL UH,

1:27:00CURB BASICALLY ON THE ASPHALT.

1:27:02SO THAT KEEPS THE WATER FROM

1:27:04GOING TO PEOPLE'S YARDS GOES

1:27:06DOWN THE HILL AND AT THE BOTTOM

1:27:09THERE'S UH THEN IT INTERSECTS A

1:27:12CANTERBURY STREET AND THERE'S

1:27:14UM.

1:27:14YOU KNOW, A UH.

1:27:18A DRAINAGE POINT AT THAT POINT.

1:27:21SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S UH IN

1:27:23BETWEEN UH, SOLUTION FOR THE

1:27:26CITY.

1:27:27UH, WE COULD HAVE JUST REPAVED

1:27:29THESE THINGS AND BUILD THOSE A

1:27:30LITTLE CURBS UH, THAT WOULD, UH

1:27:34WOULDN'T DEAL WITH THE SIDEWALK

1:27:36SITUATION BUT IT WOULD HELP.

1:27:38YOU KNOW.

1:27:39KEEP THE WATER OUT OF PEOPLE'S

1:27:41,UM.

1:27:43YARDS.

1:27:45>> IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT

1:27:47POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO WRITE

1:27:50AN ORDINANCE LIKE THAT?

1:27:52AND NOT RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH

1:27:54A STATE LAW?

1:27:55THAT IS, IF YOU DO A PRETTY

1:27:58GOOD JOB OF JUST RESURFACING

1:27:59DEALING WITH THE WATER RUNOFF

1:28:00BUT YOU DON'T PUT ON SIDEWALKS

1:28:05OR IS THAT JUST NOT POSSIBLE?

1:28:08ANYWAY, THAT'S MY QUESTION.

1:28:09THANK YOU.

1:28:12THANK YOU RICK.

1:28:13UM WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT WITH

1:28:14OUR UM WITH OUR COUNCIL.

1:28:17APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR TESTIMONY

1:28:18.

1:28:19UM NEXT UP WE HAVE SHIRLEY AND

1:28:22THEN CHRISTOPHER.

1:28:40CAN YOU HEAR ME?

1:28:43YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

1:28:45OKAY, GREAT.

1:28:46UM, THANKS FOR.

1:28:47>> THE OPPORTUNITY.

1:28:47I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY I WAS

1:28:49INVITED HERE.

1:28:50>> I THINK BECAUSE I CONTACTED

1:28:52COUNCILMAN WEBER ABOUT SOME

1:28:53ISSUES I WAS HAVING ON MY

1:28:54PRIVATE WAY WHICH ARE TOTALLY

1:28:57DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE

1:28:58SPEAKING ABOUT TODAY.

1:28:59UM, I WANT TO MENTION THEM ONLY

1:29:01IN THE SENSE THAT.

1:29:04UM, SITTING HERE LISTENING I

1:29:06UNDERSTAND THAT PRIMARIES WERE

1:29:08ALL OVER BOSTON AND I'M SURE

1:29:11THAT THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH

1:29:12AN OLD CITY AND WE USED TO HAVE

1:29:13COW PATHS AND CARRIAGE ROADS

1:29:14AND ALL THAT AND WE'RE

1:29:16SUFFERING UNDER THE THOSE

1:29:18ISSUES RIGHT NOW AND TRYING TO

1:29:19MAKE IT, UH, A.

1:29:22BETTER PLACE TO LIVE FOR

1:29:23EVERYBODY.

1:29:24UM, AND ALSO BEING A FORMER

1:29:26STATE EMPLOYEE I KNOW ABOUT

1:29:29PRIORITIZATION OF SCARCE

1:29:30RESOURCES AND HOW DIFFICULT

1:29:31THIS JOB IS.

1:29:33SO IN SAYING.

1:29:34THAT I.

1:29:34LIVE ON A PRIVATE WHERE I'VE

1:29:35LIVED THERE FOR 33 YEARS AND

1:29:37JAMAICA PLAIN.

1:29:38I LIVE ON UNION AVE, WHICH IS

1:29:40KIND OF A UNIQUE SITUATION

1:29:41BECAUSE UNION OF THE MAIN PART

1:29:44OF IT IS A PUBLIC WAY AND WE

1:29:46HAVE UH IT'S AN L-SHAPED STREET

1:29:48THAT GOES FROM WASHINGTON TO

1:29:49GREEN AND MY SECTION HAS FOUR

1:29:52HOUSES ON IT AND IT'S A PRIVATE

1:29:55WAY AND IN THE PRIVATE WAY LAW

1:29:59MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT

1:30:00ABUTTERS OWN HALF THE STREET

1:30:02AND THIS IS UNIQUE BECAUSE MY A

1:30:04BUTLER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE IS

1:30:06THE CITY.

1:30:08NOW POTHOLES ARE THERE.

1:30:10THEY DON'T BOTHER US BECAUSE IT

1:30:12SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN BECAUSE THEY

1:30:14COME AROUND THE CORNER SO

1:30:16QUICKLY AND BECAUSE THERE'S NO

1:30:18SIDEWALKS THERE LOTS OF PEOPLE

1:30:20AND LOTS OF CHILDREN BECAUSE WE

1:30:22ABOUT THE FIELD AT ENGLISH HIGH

1:30:23THERE ARE LOTS OF KIDS WALKING

1:30:25TO AND FROM THE TENNIS COURTS,

1:30:27THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, THE

1:30:29SOCCER FIELD AND THERE ARE NO

1:30:32SIDEWALKS AND PEOPLE COME

1:30:33AROUND THE CORNER OR UP THE

1:30:35HILL AND IT'S VERY VERY VERY

1:30:37DANGEROUS.

1:30:38WE'VE POSTED SIGNS NO PARKING

1:30:41AND PEOPLE PARK THERE ALL THE

1:30:42TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING TO

1:30:43WATCH THE GAME AND WE'RE IN A

1:30:47SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE DON'T

1:30:51BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT

1:30:53TO HAVE THEM TOWED.

1:30:54THEY FIGHT WITH THE TOW DRIVERS

1:30:56.

1:30:56IT'S A BAD, BAD SCENE THERE.

1:30:59I THINK THE ISSUE THAT I JUST

1:31:01WANT TO RAISE IS THAT EVERY

1:31:03PRIVATE WEIGHS DIFFERENT.

1:31:05EVERY SET OF RESIDENTS THAT

1:31:07LIVE ON THOSE PRIVATE WAYS ARE

1:31:09DIFFERENT.

1:31:10I DON'T THINK WE CAN COME

1:31:11ACROSS WITH A ONE YOU KNOW

1:31:14SOLUTION FITS ALL AND MAKE

1:31:15PEOPLE HAPPY.

1:31:17I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS EVEN

1:31:19POSSIBLE, BUT DOING SOME

1:31:20ASSESSMENT AND PRIORITIZATION

1:31:22OF THE WORST.

1:31:23SITUATIONS AND THE ONES THAT

1:31:25PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO HAVE

1:31:27SOLVED WOULD BE GREAT.

1:31:29I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE

1:31:30.

1:31:31WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE

1:31:34OTHER CITY SERVICES THAT GET

1:31:36NEGLECTED AND I'VE BEEN TOLD

1:31:38MANY TIMES WE CAN'T DO THAT

1:31:40BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE WAY.

1:31:41WELL AGAIN I'M A TAXPAYING

1:31:44CITIZEN.

1:31:45MY SAFETY MEANING PEOPLE THAT

1:31:48ASSAULT ME WHEN I TELL THEM YOU

1:31:49CAN'T PARK HERE YOU'RE GOING TO

1:31:50GET TOWED.

1:31:51AND THEY VERBALLY ABUSED ME AND

1:31:53ONE TIME PHYSICALLY ABUSED

1:31:55ME FOR TELLING THEM THAT TO

1:31:57SAVE THEM THE $250 TOTAL FEE.

1:32:00THE POLICE SAY WE CAN'T DO

1:32:01ANYTHING.

1:32:02THE REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE

1:32:05SOMEONE DUMPED AN OLD.

1:32:07COLEMAN POP UP TENT TRAILER ON

1:32:09OUR PRIVATE WAY ILLEGALLY AND

1:32:12ALL THE POLICE WERE SAYING WE

1:32:14CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S

1:32:15A PRIVATE WAY.

1:32:15WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.

1:32:18THIS HAS BEEN ILLEGALLY DUMPED.

1:32:21WE'RE CITIZENS OF THE CITY.

1:32:24THE LAWS STILL APPLY, RIGHT?

1:32:26I MEAN, THAT'S THE PART THAT

1:32:28I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TOO IS

1:32:31CITIZENS OF PRIVATE WAVES

1:32:33DESERVE ALL THE REST OF CITY

1:32:34SERVICES PROTECTION BY THE

1:32:37POLICE.

1:32:38ILLEGAL DUMPING ON THE PRIVATE

1:32:40WAY.

1:32:42I MEAN, SO THERE'S A MYRIAD

1:32:46OF PROBLEMS FOR PRIVATE WAVE

1:32:47RESIDENTS AND I UNDERSTAND

1:32:49POTHOLES ARE A BIG ONE.

1:32:50LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T WE'RE NOT

1:32:51TOO CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE

1:32:53WE'RE ON A HILL.

1:32:54WATER DOESN'T SETTLE IN OUR

1:32:56YARDS.

1:32:57THE POTHOLES ARE OKAY BECAUSE

1:33:00THEY'RE NOT THAT DEEP AND IT

1:33:01SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN.

1:33:02SO POTHOLES ARE NOT MY BIGGEST

1:33:04ISSUE.

1:33:04BUT IT'S FUNNY THAT IN THE LAST

1:33:07THREE MONTHS TWO TEAMS HAVE

1:33:09COME AND FILLED THE POTHOLES ON

1:33:11MY STREET.

1:33:12I NEVER PUT IN A311 NO ONE ON

1:33:14MY STREET DID EITHER SO I DON'T

1:33:15KNOW MAYBE IT WAS BECAUSE

1:33:17OF THIS NEW ORDINANCE BUT UM

1:33:20THERE'S A MYRIAD OF PROBLEMS

1:33:22WITH PRIVATE WAYS.

1:33:23I THINK THE CITY WOULD DO WELL

1:33:25IN CHECKING WITH THE RESIDENTS

1:33:27TO SEE WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THEY

1:33:31HAVE, WHAT DO THEY NEED?

1:33:34AND AGAIN THIS MAY BE A BIG JOB

1:33:37BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO

1:33:38PRIORITIZE PEOPLE.

1:33:39AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT A

1:33:41LOT OF THESE DIRT ROADS I KNOW

1:33:43IN MAINE AND IN NOVA SCOTIA

1:33:45BECAUSE WE GO THERE A LOT THEY

1:33:47HAVE DIRT ROADS THAT ARE HARD

1:33:49PACKED AND THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD

1:33:51BECAUSE THE FREEZE THAW ISSUE

1:33:53DOESN'T BECOME AN ISSUE FOR

1:33:54THEM BECAUSE IT JUST DRAINS

1:33:56AWAY.

1:33:56I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A

1:33:58ANOTHER SOLUTION TO LOOK INTO

1:34:00OTHER FORMS OF HARD PACKED

1:34:04ROADS THAT WON'T PRODUCE

1:34:06POTHOLES LIKE GET PRODUCED WITH

1:34:09ASPHALT AND PATCH COLD PATCH.

1:34:14UM I JUST THINK LIKE ONE OF THE

1:34:16OTHER VIDEO THE WOMAN IN THE

1:34:18VIDEO EARLIER SAID UH, WE HAVE

1:34:20TO BE CREATIVE AND WE HAVE TO

1:34:22LOOK AND LOOK AT THE OUTDATED

1:34:23LAWS.

1:34:24I WORKED FOR THE COURTS FOR 30

1:34:25YEARS.

1:34:25I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF LAWS

1:34:27ON THE BOOKS THAT JUST ARE NOT

1:34:28IN SERVICE OF US TODAY.

1:34:31UM WITH TECHNOLOGY AND

1:34:32EVERYTHING ELSE ONE OF THE

1:34:33PROBLEMS IS WAZE, RIGHT?

1:34:35IT'S ALWAYS TELLING PEOPLE HOW

1:34:36TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC THAT'S

1:34:37BEEN CAUSED BY NEW TRAFFIC

1:34:39PATTERNS AND THEY'RE USING ALL

1:34:40THESE PRIVATE WAYS.

1:34:42ALL THE PUBLIC IS USING THEIR

1:34:44EASEMENT TO GET OVER TO CUT OFF

1:34:46THE LIGHT ON WASHINGTON STREET

1:34:48OR GET THROUGH SOMEWHERE ON

1:34:49AMERICAN LEGION HIGHWAY.

1:34:51I MEAN, WE'RE CREATING PROBLEMS

1:34:54THAT ARE CREATING MORE PROBLEMS

1:34:55FOR US.

1:34:55I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A BIG

1:34:57SORT OF A GLOBAL LOOK.

1:34:59JUST JUST SOME THOUGHTS ON THE

1:35:00MATTER.

1:35:01UH, HAPPY TO HELP IN ANY WAY I

1:35:04CAN, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE TIME

1:35:06AND, UH, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE

1:35:09ISSUES I'VE HAD.

1:35:10THANKS.

1:35:10THANK YOU.

1:35:11SHIRLEY.

1:35:13UM, NEXT UP.

1:35:15>> IS CHRISTOPHER.

1:35:25HI.

1:35:25>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

1:35:27WE CAN HEAR YOU.

1:35:28YEP.

1:35:28WONDERFUL.

1:35:29>> UM, I'M CHRIS ARENA.

1:35:30I'M ACTUALLY CAMERA OFF BECAUSE

1:35:32I'M CALLING FROM ACADIA

1:35:34NATIONAL PARK RIGHT NOW THAT

1:35:35THIS MATTER MATTERS SO MUCH TO

1:35:36ME THAT I FIGURED I'D TAKE A

1:35:38SECOND FOR MY VACATION AND CALL

1:35:39IN AND TALK ABOUT MY

1:35:40EXPERIENCE.

1:35:41UM, THIS ISSUE DATES BACK TO

1:35:43CONVERSATIONS WITH FORMER

1:35:44COUNCILOR LAURA COUNCIL CURRENT

1:35:46COUNCILOR WEBER.

1:35:47UH, MY WIFE AND I ARE BOTH

1:35:49HOMEOWNERS.

1:35:49IN THE GROVE.

1:35:50IN BOSTON.

1:35:51WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR SIX YEARS

1:35:52NOW.

1:35:53WE LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:35:53UM, THE HISTORY OF THIS

1:35:54NEIGHBORHOOD IS HILARIOUS AND

1:35:56INTERESTING AND STRANGE.

1:35:57IT USED TO BE A SUMMER

1:35:58DESTINATION OF THE WEALTHY BACK

1:36:00BAY ELITES WHO WOULD TAKE THEIR

1:36:01COTTAGES AND THEIR CARRIAGES

1:36:03DOWN TO A COTTAGE, UH.

1:36:04AND AND VACATION IN THE CITY

1:36:07OF BOSTON AND THEIR OWN CITY UM

1:36:08AND THEIR LITTLE, UH, OASIS.

1:36:10WE LOVE THE CHARACTER OF THIS

1:36:12NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:36:13UM, BUT THERE ARE TWO CORE

1:36:14ISSUES THAT I THINK EVERYONE

1:36:16EXPERIENCES AND HAS DIFFERENT

1:36:17REACTIONS TO.

1:36:18THE FIRST OF WHICH IS ROADS AND

1:36:20I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A

1:36:21SECOND AND THE SECOND OF WHICH

1:36:22IS STREETS.

1:36:23SO THE STREETS IN THE GROVE

1:36:24WERE NEVER CONSIDERED THOUGHT

1:36:26OUT MAPPED OUT INTENTIONALLY IN

1:36:29A WAY THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED

1:36:31WITH A LOT OF OUR ISSUES.

1:36:33UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I LIVE ON A

1:36:35ROAD CALLED DANA ROAD.

1:36:36UH, AND THERE'S 3 OR 4

1:36:37DIFFERENT PARTS TO DANA ROAD

1:36:39WHERE IT JUST CUTS OFF THROUGH

1:36:40A RESIDENCE.

1:36:41UH, WHAT USED TO BE A COTTAGE

1:36:43AND IS NOW UH, A HOUSE.

1:36:44UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO HAS,

1:36:47YOU KNOW, LIFELONG RESIDENTS

1:36:48AND GENERATIONAL RESIDENTS AND

1:36:49FOLKS LIKE MY WIFE AND I WHO

1:36:51CAME FROM ALLSTON AND MANY

1:36:53YEARS IN DIFFERENT BOSTON

1:36:54NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE ROSLINDALE.

1:36:55UM, A STORY THAT I WANTED TO

1:36:57SHARE ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN

1:36:58THE ROAD WHICH IS REALLY

1:37:00CHALLENGING IS WE HAD A

1:37:01RESIDENT WHO PASSED AWAY NOT

1:37:02MORE THAN A COUPLE OF YEARS

1:37:03AGO.

1:37:03UM, I REMEMBER DISTINCTLY

1:37:06CHATTING WITH THE AMBULANCE

1:37:07AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO CAME THE

1:37:08PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS AFTER THE

1:37:10RESIDENT HAD PASSED.

1:37:12UM AND THEY HAD MENTIONED JUST

1:37:13HOW DIFFICULT WAS TO NOT ONLY

1:37:15FIND THE HOUSE BUT TO GET IN,

1:37:17UM, TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO GET

1:37:19LIFESAVING CARE.

1:37:20UM, THEY HAD TO COME DOWN A

1:37:22ROAD CALLED LINDEN WHICH

1:37:23CHANGES ITS NAMES TWO DIFFERENT

1:37:24TIMES AND HAS THE WORST

1:37:26POTHOLES IN BOSTON.

1:37:27I PROMISE YOU, UH, YOU WILL NOT

1:37:29FIND A DEEPER POTHOLE.

1:37:30I THINK COUNCILOR WEBER TALKED

1:37:32ABOUT A TANK SIZED POTHOLE.

1:37:33THERE ARE THREE OF THEM ON

1:37:35LINDEN.

1:37:35SO THIS AMBULANCE COULDN'T GET

1:37:36DOWN.

1:37:36HAD TO DRIVE THE OTHER WAY.

1:37:38AND AGAIN AT THIS POINT WE'RE

1:37:40TALKING ABOUT DELAYING LIFE

1:37:41SERVING CARE.

1:37:42UM, UH, THE SIMPLE ISSUES WITH

1:37:44THE POSTAL SERVICE I HAVE THOSE

1:37:46SAME ISSUES IN THE WINTER WHERE

1:37:47THEY CAN'T DRIVE DOWN AND

1:37:48DELIVER OUR MAIL.

1:37:49UM, BUT ANOTHER REALLY PRESSING

1:37:51CURRENT ISSUE IS A TREE ON, UH,

1:37:53DANA ROAD RECENTLY DIED.

1:37:55A VERY, VERY LARGE TREE.

1:37:57UM, AND IN TRYING TO GET THIS

1:37:59TREE REMOVED WE SPOKE TO

1:38:01EVERSOURCE.

1:38:01WE SPOKE TO THE CITY, WE SPOKE

1:38:03TO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT

1:38:04PARTNERS AND AS A PRIVATE WAY,

1:38:06THE ONLY RESPONSE TO THE

1:38:08RESPONSIBILITY COMES FROM THE

1:38:09NEIGHBORS OF ACTUALLY SERVICING

1:38:10THIS TREE IN THE MIDDLE OF A

1:38:11ROAD.

1:38:12UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK THE ISSUE

1:38:15IS NOT TO HAVE THE GROVE BECOME

1:38:17A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE THREE

1:38:20DIFFERENT SIDEWALKS AND

1:38:22INDUSTRIALIZATION I THINK SOME

1:38:23OF THE LONG TERM NEIGHBORS

1:38:23WOULD BE AGAINST THAT, ALTHOUGH

1:38:25I THINK IT'D BE LOVELY TO HAVE

1:38:27MORE NEIGHBORS IN MY

1:38:27NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:38:28UM, BUT THE REALITY IS THE

1:38:29GROVE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE

1:38:30MOST PRESSING AREAS UH, STREET

1:38:32DISREPAIR IN THE ENTIRE CITY.

1:38:34NO ONE'S GOING TO USE THIS

1:38:36PLACE AS A CUT THROUGH, I

1:38:37PROMISE.

1:38:37WASHINGTON TO GROVE STREET IS

1:38:39NOT A COMMON ROUTE THAT PEOPLE

1:38:41TAKE.

1:38:41UM, BUT IF WE CAN FIND A

1:38:43SOLUTION THAT CAN ENSURE

1:38:46RESIDENTS WHO NEED MEDICAL CARE

1:38:48IN THE MOMENT GET IT FASTER

1:38:50THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT

1:38:51DELIVERY DRIVERS KNOW WHICH

1:38:53PART OF DANA ROAD THEY CAN GET

1:38:54TO.

1:38:55UM, AND ALSO THAT FUTURE

1:38:57RESIDENTS KIND OF KNOW WHAT

1:38:57THEY'RE GETTING INTO WHEN THEY

1:38:58BUY A PROPERTY WITH A SEPTIC

1:39:00TANK AND A PRIVATE ROAD.

1:39:01I THINK COLLABORATION UM IN A

1:39:04MIDDLE GROUND LIKE PERHAPS JUST

1:39:06A PAVING OR A HEAVY DIRT PACK

1:39:08LIKE I BELIEVE SHIRLEY JUST

1:39:09SAID AS OPPOSED.

1:39:11TO SIDEWALKS AND A DEEPLY

1:39:12DEFINED ROAD.

1:39:13UM, I'M HAPPY TO BE INVOLVED.

1:39:15LIKE I SAID, I WAS HAVING

1:39:16CONVERSATIONS WITH KENDRA,

1:39:17LAURA AND A FORMER

1:39:18COUNCIL LAURA AND CURRENT

1:39:20COUNCIL MEMBER.

1:39:20I THINK YOU'LL FIND MANY

1:39:22RESIDENTS IN THE GROVE WANT TO

1:39:23BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION, NOT

1:39:24JUST HAVE IT PERFORMED FOR THEM

1:39:26.

1:39:26UM THE DIFFICULTY IS THE

1:39:28PROCESS AND THEN I'LL CLOSE

1:39:29WITH THIS.

1:39:30THE PICK PROCESS IS REALLY

1:39:32CHALLENGING.

1:39:32I DON'T KNOW HALF OF MY

1:39:33NEIGHBORS NOT BECAUSE I DON'T

1:39:35WANT TO BUT BECAUSE WE LIVE IN

1:39:37DIFFERENT AREAS.

1:39:38SOME WORK VERY DIFFERENT JOBS

1:39:39AND SCHEDULES AND.

1:39:41>> THE GROVE IS.

1:39:42>> A REALLY BIG NEIGHBORHOOD TO

1:39:43GET 50% OF PEOPLE EVEN TO A

1:39:45MEETING LET ALONE TO AGREE ON

1:39:47SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE REALLY

1:39:48CHALLENGING.

1:39:49SO INSTEAD IF WE COULD FOCUS ON

1:39:51SOLUTIONS THAT CAN ACTIVATE

1:39:52CERTAIN NEIGHBORS UM, THAT CAN

1:39:54ALSO BRING THE ROAD UP TO A

1:39:57STANDARD IF NOT A CODE THAT

1:39:58WOULD BE FANTASTIC AND I'M SO

1:39:59GRATEFUL AT THE CHANCE TO

1:40:00SPEAK.

1:40:01UM AND WE'RE HAPPY BE HAPPY TO

1:40:02STAY INVOLVED.

1:40:03THANK YOU.

1:40:04THANK YOU CHRIS.

1:40:07UH, THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC

1:40:09TESTIMONY.

1:40:09I'LL NOW GO TO THE LEAD SPONSOR

1:40:12FOR ANY CLOSING REMARKS AND

1:40:13THEN WE'LL, UH, CLOSE IT OUT.

1:40:15UH THANK YOU CHAIR.

1:40:15THANK YOU TO.

1:40:17ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO PROVIDED

1:40:19,UM, REMARKS.

1:40:21UM, A LOT OF CREATIVE IDEAS.

1:40:25AND WE'LL DEFINITELY.

1:40:28INCORPORATE THEM.

1:40:29MAY BE REACHING.

1:40:29OUT TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK ON,

1:40:33UM, COMING UP.

1:40:34WITH WAYS ON HOW TO.

1:40:38GET CREATIVE ON BRINGING

1:40:40RELEASE.

1:40:40RELIEF TO.

1:40:42UH, THE.

1:40:43>> RESIDENTS THAT.

1:40:43>> ARE LIVING ON PRIVATE WAYS.

1:40:45UM.

1:40:46>> I GUESS WHAT OF MY.

1:40:47QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO

1:40:49FIND OUT.

1:40:50SUPERINTENDENT NE IS.

1:40:53IF YOU WERE TO.

1:40:54FILL ALL THE POTHOLES ON

1:40:57PRIVATE.

1:40:57WAYS TO THE 311 TO THE 311 THAT

1:41:03YOU RECEIVE IT.

1:41:05UM AND SO YOU HAVE THIS NUMBER

1:41:06NOW BUT IF YOU COULD FIND OUT

1:41:09WHAT WOULD THAT.

1:41:10COST YOU?

1:41:11BECAUSE THOSE ARE ACTUAL

1:41:13COMPLAINTS.

1:41:13>> THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED OUT.

1:41:15IF WE CAN GET A DOLLAR AMOUNT.

1:41:17ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

1:41:19UM.

1:41:20I THINK IT COULD BE USEFUL TO

1:41:24ME TO.

1:41:24UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COSTS.

1:41:27WOULD BE.

1:41:28UM.

1:41:30>> FOR JUST FILLING THE

1:41:31POTHOLES.

1:41:32UM.

1:41:34>> SO SPEAKING OF OF HOLES THAT

1:41:37HAVE ALREADY BEEN FILLED OR

1:41:38ONES THAT WE FILL.

1:41:39THE ONE THAT YOU HAVEN'T

1:41:40FILLED.

1:41:42ONES THAT WE HAVEN'T FILLED.

1:41:43OKAY.

1:41:43GOTCHA.

1:41:44311 REQUEST THAT HAVE BEEN

1:41:46CLOSED OUT SAYING.

1:41:47HEY THESE ARE PRIVATE.

1:41:49>> WAYS WHEN I CAN FILL IT OUT.

1:41:50IT GOES THROUGH THIS ASSET.

1:41:51ASSESSMENT PROCESS, UM,

1:41:52WHETHER.

1:41:53IT REACHES THIS PUBLIC SAFETY

1:41:55THRESHOLD.

1:41:56RIGHT.

1:41:58>> SO YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE

1:41:59TO.

1:42:00FILL THOSE.

1:42:01UM YEAH.

1:42:02WE DON'T WE CAN TRY.

1:42:04THE ONLY ISSUE WOULD BE YOU.

1:42:07>> KNOW.

1:42:07AGAIN THE PUBLIC DOESN'T

1:42:10DIFFERENTIATE.

1:42:11THEY SEE SOMETHING WRONG WITH

1:42:12THE ROADWAY.

1:42:12IT'S A POTHOLE INTERNALLY.

1:42:14YOU KNOW WE SEE WE DEAL WITH

1:42:16THEM KIND OF AS ROADWAY

1:42:17DEFECTS.

1:42:17SO.

1:42:18>> UM, I CAN PROVIDE, YOU KNOW.

1:42:25LET ME SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP

1:42:26WITH.

1:42:27UM.

1:42:28>> I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT

1:42:29ACCURACY, BUT LET ME SEE WHAT

1:42:30WE CAN COME UP WITH.

1:42:32OKAY.

1:42:33>> UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE HEARD

1:42:36FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS.

1:42:38>> YOU KNOW, THE TAX PAYERS, UH

1:42:40,THEIR.

1:42:41THEIR TAXES GO INTO.

1:42:43>> A.

1:42:43GENERAL FUND WHICH THEN GOES IN

1:42:45FIX.

1:42:45FIXES, UM, POTHOLES.

1:42:47>> OR PROVIDE CITY SERVICES.

1:42:49UM.

1:42:50TO TO OTHER STREETS.

1:42:52AND AGAIN LIKE THIS IS.

1:42:54JUST TRYING.

1:42:54>> TO FIND.

1:42:55>> A STEP FORWARD ON TRYING TO.

1:42:57YOU KNOW.

1:42:58>> GET THESE RESIDENTS THAT

1:42:59LIVE ON.

1:42:59PRIVATE WAVE AND.

1:43:00I'M NOT.

1:43:01>> AWARE OF ANY YOU KNOW

1:43:04DIFFERENT TAXING TAXES.

1:43:08I DON'T.

1:43:09>> THINK THEY'RE GETTING ANY

1:43:10THEY'RE NOT PAYING LESS IN

1:43:11TAXES TO LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY

1:43:14TO TO TRY TO GET YOU KNOW,

1:43:15THESE RESIDENTS.

1:43:17UM.

1:43:17>> YOU KNOW, SOME SOME RELIEF

1:43:20AND ONE WAY IS.

1:43:21YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO UPDATE

1:43:22THE LAW TO KIND OF GET UM, YOU

1:43:25KNOW WHAT.

1:43:26>> WHAT.

1:43:26WOULD WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING

1:43:27AND GOING THROUGH NOW.

1:43:28SO JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE

1:43:30WHO WAS PART OF THE

1:43:32CONVERSATION.

1:43:33SHOUT OUT TO UH, MATT FROM MY

1:43:34TEAM WHO BEEN WORKING ON THIS

1:43:37AND HE FOUND THIS CITY

1:43:39ORDINANCE THAT.

1:43:41WE ALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN UP TO

1:43:42COULD BE UPDATED.

1:43:44UM, TO PROVIDE.

1:43:45UH, THE CITY WITH.

1:43:47MORE UH, FLEXIBILITY.

1:43:49I'M USING AIR FORCE BUT I KNOW

1:43:50IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE.

1:43:53UM, BUT JUST PROVIDING THAT,

1:43:54YOU KNOW, LEGAL UH.

1:43:56PARAMETER AROUND IT.

1:43:58UM, AND THEN JUST TRYING TO.

1:43:59FIND WAYS.

1:44:00ON TO MAKE IT.

1:44:01YOU KNOW, UM, I.

1:44:02GUESS BETTER.

1:44:04IMPLEMENTED INSTEAD OF.

1:44:05CREATING A THRESHOLD.

1:44:06JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE

1:44:08FILLING THESE.

1:44:09UM, UH, FILLING THE POTHOLES ON

1:44:10THESE PRIVATE WAY BUT HAPPY TO

1:44:12TO THE CONVERSATION.

1:44:14LOOKING FORWARD TO A WORK IN

1:44:15SESSION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO

1:44:16WORKING WITH ALL THE

1:44:17CONSTITUENTS.

1:44:18ON FINDING.

1:44:19CREATIVE WAYS ON HOW TO SOLVE

1:44:21THIS.

1:44:21THANK YOU.

1:44:23THANK YOU COUNCILOR WORL AND

1:44:24THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS

1:44:25FORWARD AND TO YOUR TEAM AND

1:44:26UM, EVERYBODY THAT'S PROVIDED

1:44:28UH, TESTIMONY AND UM

1:44:30SUPERINTENDENT, THANK YOU FOR

1:44:31YOUR WORK REALLY AND TRULY UM

1:44:32AND TO YOUR TEAM.

1:44:33UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR

1:44:34PERSPECTIVE.

1:44:35UH, THIS HEARING ON DOCKET 0807

1:44:38IS ADJOURNED.

1:44:39THANKS, EVERYONE.