2026-09-28 - Ways and Means Committee

11:39WEBER I'M THE DISTRICT SIX CITY

11:41COUNCILOR AND THE CHAIR OF THE

11:42BOSTON CITY COUNCIL ON WAYS AND

11:44MEANS.

11:45TODAY'S UH SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2026

11:48AND THE EXACT TIME IS 10:04

11:50A.M..

11:51UH IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER

11:53TWO OF THE ACTS OF 2025

11:55MODIFYING CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS

11:57OF THE OPEN MEETING LAW AND UH,

12:00RELIVING OR RELIEVING UH,

12:02SORRY PUBLIC BODIES OF CERTAIN

12:04REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING THE

12:05REQUIREMENT THAT PUBLIC BODIES

12:07CONDUCT UH, MEETINGS IN A

12:09PUBLIC PLACE THAT'S OPEN AND

12:11PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE

12:12PUBLIC.

12:13THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE

12:14CONDUCTING THIS HEARING

12:15VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.

12:16THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED

12:18.

12:18IT'S ALSO BEING LIVE STREAMED

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12:29UH WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT

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12:37MADE A PART OF THE RECORD AND

12:38AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS.

12:40PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN

12:42AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.

12:43INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON

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12:54LIAISON KARISHMA ON.

12:55YEAH.

12:57KKR.

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13:03LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE

13:04ADDED TO THE LIST.

13:06UH OKAY SO TODAY'S HEARING IS

13:09ON PSYCH UH 1234 DOCKETS.

13:13UH I'M GOING TO READ THEM OUT

13:15UM UH SO DOCKET NUMBER 1671 IS

13:19A MESSAGE IN ORDER TO REDUCE

13:21THE F Y 27 APPROPRIATION YOU'RE

13:24JUST GOING TO ON SECOND AND FY

13:2727 APPROPRIATION FOR THE

13:30RESERVE, UH, FOR COLLECTIVE

13:32BARGAINING BY $1,951,894 TO

13:37PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE BOSTON

13:39POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE UH

13:41FISCAL YEAR 27 INCREASES

13:44CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

13:45BARGAINING AGREEMENTS BETWEEN

13:46THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THE

13:48BOSTON POLICE DETECTIVES

13:50BENEVOLENT SOCIETY DOCKET

13:52NUMBER 1672 MESSAGE IN ORDER

13:55FOR THE BOSTON POLICE

13:56DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 27,

13:58IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,951,894 TO

14:04COVER THE FISCAL YEAR 27 COST

14:06ITEMS CONTAINED WITHIN THE

14:08COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT

14:10BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND

14:12THE BOSTON POLICE DETECTIVES

14:14BENEVOLENT SOCIETY.

14:15THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE

14:18IT SAYS HERE JULY 1ST 2025 TO

14:23JUNE 30TH 2026.

14:25UH MAYBE UH WE HAVE TO CHANGE

14:27THAT AMEND THAT.

14:28THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE

14:30CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE

14:33INCREASE OF 2% IN JULY 2025

14:36AGAIN, UH, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT

14:38THE YEAR.

14:38THE CONTRACT ALSO CONTAINS AN

14:40UPDATE TO HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY

14:42AND AMENDED LANGUAGE AROUND

14:43SICK TIME BUYBACK AT RETIREMENT

14:46AS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO YOU

14:48THE FISCAL YEAR 27 UH BUDGET

14:51REQUEST INCLUDED A RESERVE FOR

14:53COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, A

14:55SEPARATE APPROPRIATION TO FUND

14:57PROJECTED COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

14:59INCREASES.

14:59A SEPARATE ORDER HAS BEEN FILED

15:01TO REDUCE THE APPROPRIATION BY

15:07$1,951,894.

15:07OKAY, I THINK I GET DOCKET

15:09NUMBER 1673 MESSAGE IN ORDER TO

15:12REDUCE THE FISCAL YEAR 27

15:14APPROPRIATION FOR THE RESERVE

15:15FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BY

15:20$1,366,093 TO PROVIDE FUNDING

15:23FOR THE BOSTON POLICE

15:24DEPARTMENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR

15:2627 INCREASES CONTAINED WITHIN

15:28THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

15:29AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY

15:30OF BOSTON AND THE BOSTON POLICE

15:32UH DETECTIVE BENEVOLENT SOCIETY

15:34SUPERIOR OFFICERS UNIT AND UH

15:37FINALLY, UH DOCKET NUMBER 1674

15:39MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE BOSTON

15:41POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL

15:42YEAR 27, IN THE AMOUNT

15:48OF $1,366,093 TO COVER THE

15:49FISCAL YEAR 27 COST ITEMS

15:51CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

15:53BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

15:54THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THE

15:55BOSTON POLICE DETECTIVES

15:56BENEVOLENT SOCIETY SUPERIOR

15:58OFFICERS UNIT.

15:59THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE

16:01JULY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH JUNE

16:0330TH OF 2026.

16:05THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE

16:06CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE

16:08INCREASE OF 2% IN JULY 2025.

16:12THE CONTRACT ALSO CONTAINS AN

16:14UPDATE TO HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY

16:16AND AMENDED LANGUAGE AROUND PAY

16:18DETAILS AND SUMMER VACATION

16:20SCHEDULES AS ORIGINALLY

16:22PRESENTED TO YOU, THE FISCAL

16:23YEAR 27 BUDGET REQUEST INCLUDED

16:26A RESERVE FOR COLLECTIVE

16:28BARGAINING UH, A SEPARATE

16:30APPROPRIATION TO FUND PROJECTED

16:31BARGAINING COLLECTIVE

16:32BARGAINING INCREASES A SEPARATE

16:34ORDER HAS BEEN FILED TO REDUCE

16:35THAT APPROPRIATION BY

16:40$1,396,093.

16:41THESE MATTERS WERE SPONSORED BY

16:43MICHELLE WU AND WERE REFERRED

16:44TO THE COMMITTEE.

16:45ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2026.

16:48UH, FOR MY COLLEAGUES YOU MAY

16:50RECALL WE PASSED SIMILAR

16:51DOCKETS IN MAY OF THIS YEAR UH

16:54FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026.

16:57THESE DOCKETS I BELIEVE WOULD

16:58JUST EXTEND THOSE UH

17:01APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR

17:032027.

17:04BUT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM

17:05JIM WILLIAMSON.

17:06UH, TODAY I'M UH JOINED BY MY

17:09COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL

17:11COUNCILOR FLYNN AND THEN

17:12COUNCILOR MURPHY.

17:14UH, I UH I'M JUST GOING TO GO

17:16TO THE UH, PANELISTS AND THEN

17:18WE'LL GO FOR QUESTIONS.

17:20UH, WE'VE BEEN JOINED TODAY BY

17:22UH, BUDGET DIRECTOR UH, JIM

17:24WILLIAMSON.

17:25UM, SO UH, WITH THAT I UH I

17:29GUESS UM, IF SHE HAD JIM IS

17:33HERE WHICH I SEE UH, DO YOU

17:35WANT TO JUST EXPLAIN WHAT'S

17:36GOING ON AND THEN, UH, UM, YOU

17:39KNOW, IF MY MY COLLEAGUES HAVE

17:41ANY QUESTIONS I SEE

17:42COUNCILOR FLYNN.

17:42YOU GOT YOUR HAND UP?

17:43YEAH.

17:44>> ONE QUICK QUESTION,

17:45MR CHAIR.

17:45WITH THE, UM.

17:47REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE

17:48RESPECTIVE.

17:48RESPECTIVE UNIONS, UM.

17:51LEADERSHIP PLANNING TO ATTEND.

17:53THEY ARE NOT BECAUSE WE WE THIS

17:57IS I BELIEVE AND MR WILLIAMSON,

17:59THE BUDGET DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON

18:00IS GOING TO EXPLAIN WE HAD A

18:02HEARING IN MAY ON THE CONTRACT

18:04ON A NEW CONTRACT AND I I'M I'M

18:07HAPPY TO GO OVER UH THE

18:10PROVISIONS THE NEW PROVISIONS

18:11IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE

18:12COVERED IN MAY AND THAT WE

18:13VOTED ON IN MAY.

18:14UH, SO THIS IS REALLY I BELIEVE

18:17WE'RE JUST GOING INTO THE NEXT

18:19FISCAL YEAR TO COVER THE WAGE

18:20INCREASES THAT WERE COVERED BY

18:21THAT CONTRACT.

18:23SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE ONLY

18:24EXPECTING BUDGET DIRECTOR

18:25WILLIAMSON TODAY.

18:26I GUESS IF THERE'S OTHER

18:27QUESTIONS I CAN RELAY THEM.

18:29UH, YOU CAN REVIEW THEM THROUGH

18:31THE CHAIR AND UH, WE CAN GET

18:33OTHER THINGS ANSWERED.

18:34BUT I THINK JUST TO EXPLAIN

18:36WHAT IS HAPPENING, WE HAD, UH,

18:38JIM WILLIAMSON HERE AND UH, FOR

18:41QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTRACT

18:42ITSELF.

18:43I THINK WE COVERED ALL THAT

18:44BACK IN MAY.

18:45YEAH.

18:46>> I REMEMBER BEING ON THAT.

18:47YEAH, RIGHT.

18:48I DON'T I DON'T MISS ANY

18:49OF THESE HEARINGS BUT I, UM I

18:52WANT TO DO MY DUE DILIGENCE

18:53BEFORE I DO VOTE.

18:55OKAY.

18:56>> YEAH.

18:56THANK YOU.

18:56YEAH.

18:57NO, IT'S A IT'S A BIT UNUSUAL.

18:59UH, AND SO I'VE GONE OVER THE

19:00COMMITTEE REPORT, UM, LET'S SEE

19:03WHICH I'VE GOT RIGHT HERE JUST

19:05TO REFRESH FOLKS MEMORIES, YOU

19:07KNOW, AS A NEW CONTRACT, UH,

19:09REACHED UH TO SORT OF EXTEND

19:11CERTAIN BENEFITS THAT WERE IN

19:13THE PATROL OFFICERS CONTRACT TO

19:14THE TO THE DETECTIVES

19:16BENEVOLENT SOCIETY AND THE

19:18DETECTIVES BENEVOLENT SOCIETY

19:20SUPERIOR OFFICERS AND THEN I'LL

19:21JUST RUN THROUGH THE BULLET

19:22POINTS.

19:23WELL.

19:23>> LET ME JUST ASK.

19:24WHERE THEY WERE.

19:26>> THEY INVITED.

19:28UH THEY WERE NOT INVITE WE HAD

19:30A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THIS

19:31HEARING SHOULD BE AND BECAUSE

19:34WE HAD HAD SO NO I DID NOT

19:36INVITE THEM.

19:37I DO THINK I DO THINK AN

19:40INVITATION.

19:41SHOULD BE.

19:41>> EXTENDED WHETHER UM.

19:44AT LEAST GIVE THEM THE

19:45OPPORTUNITY TO.

19:48UM BE INVITED TO BE.

19:49INCLUDED BECAUSE.

19:50>> THERE MIGHT.

19:50>> BE SOME ISSUES.

19:51THAT THEY HIGHLIGHT THAT MIGHT

19:54HELP US DO OUR JOB BETTER.

19:56CERTAINLY THE CITY OF BOSTON IS

19:58GOING TO PRESENT THEIR

20:02RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT.

20:02I DO LIKE TO GET BOTH SIDES

20:04OF THE STORY.

20:05UM, I REALLY.

20:07WISH THE.

20:09UNION LEADERSHIP WERE INVITED

20:10AND IF THEY DECLINED THEN THEY

20:12DECLINED.

20:12BUT I I DO.

20:13THINK WE WE WE.

20:15>> OWE IT TO THEM TO.

20:17PAY BECAUSE OF THEIR

20:19PROFESSIONALISM AND THE WORK

20:19THEY DO.

20:20TO AT.

20:21>> LEAST INVITE THEM TO THE

20:22MEETING.

20:22OKAY.

20:23>> SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:24LET'S JUST WELL WE'LL LET'S

20:26PROCEED UH, WITH BUDGET

20:27DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON.

20:29YEAH BUT BETTER BETTER IN

20:30ADDITION TO THAT THAT'S AN A

20:32THAT'S AN.

20:32IMPORTANT THAT'S AN.

20:33IMPORTANT MATTER AND WHAT

20:34YOU'RE JUST GLOSSING OVER IT I.

20:36DO I DO THINK IT'S AN ISSUE

20:37THAT WE.

20:38>> CAN AT LEAST.

20:39ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE.

20:41UNIONS SHOULD BE.

20:42PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

20:43>> THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IN.

20:44YEAH I HEAR YOU BUT LET'S JUST

20:45LET'S LET'S HEAR IT,

20:47MR DIRECTOR AND.

20:48>> QUICK QUESTION JUST I AND

20:50I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING

20:51FROM JIM BUT IS IT BOTH I'M

20:54READING THE INVITATION HERE.

20:56IS IT BOTH THE BENEVOLENT

20:58DETECTIVES AND THE SUPERIOR

21:00OFFICES OR JUST THE BENEVOLENT

21:02DETECTIVES?

21:03IT'S THE UH THIS I'M SORRY.

21:06LET ME JUST UM.

21:09THEN IT SAYS HERE WE HAVE THAT

21:11IT'S ALSO AND SO.

21:13WAS THE BENEVOLENT DETECTIVES

21:14AND THEN THE BENEVOLENT

21:16DETECTIVE SUPERIOR OFFICER.

21:18SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE OFFICERS

21:19.

21:19IT'S BOTH.

21:20YES.

21:20>> RIGHT.

21:21SO BECAUSE THERE'S THREE POLICE

21:22UNION SO THIS COVERS BOTH NOT

21:26BPP BUT THE OTHER TWO.

21:28CORRECT OKAY JUST CHECK.

21:30DIDN'T WORK.

21:31OKAY.

21:32>> UM SO AGAIN UH WE CAN LET'S

21:37CIRCLE BACK TO

21:39COUNCILOR FLYNN'S, UH, CONCERNS

21:41UH, BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT THE

21:43HEARING.

21:44UH, BUT SO I'M GOING TO PASS

21:46THIS ON.

21:46I SEE YOUR HAND IS UP AGAIN.

21:49COUNCILOR MURPHY YOU JUST SAW,

21:50RIGHT?

21:50NO, JUST TAKING IT DOWN.

21:52NO.

21:53OKAY, OKAY.

21:53I DON'T KNOW IF IT COULD HAVE

21:54GONE BACK.

21:55UH, OKAY.

21:56UH, DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON, DO YOU

21:58WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON

22:00HERE?

22:00VERY SURE.

22:01SO THANK YOU.

22:02CHAIR WEBER AND COUNCILORS, UH,

22:04MURPHY AND FLYNN.

22:05UH, MY NAME IS JIM WILLIAMSON.

22:08I'M A BUDGET DIRECTOR HERE AT

22:09THE CITY OF BOSTON.

22:09AND I APPRECIATE THIS

22:11OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PROVIDE

22:12MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE,

22:14UH, SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGETS AND

22:15THEIR IMPACT ON ON THE CITY'S

22:17BUDGET.

22:17UH, I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE

22:19FOUR APPROPRIATION WHEREAS

22:20BEFORE YOU, UH, THE IMPACT

22:22OF THE 427 ANNUAL OPERATING

22:24BUDGET AND TO FORMALLY REQUEST

22:26,UH, FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION

22:28OR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NEXT

22:29COUNCIL MEETING, UH, AS OUR

22:32COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, IF THERE'S

22:33ADDITIONAL SORT OF, UH, UNION

22:36CONTRACT LANGUAGE SPECIFIC

22:38QUESTIONS AND OR UH

22:40DEPARTMENTAL OPERATION

22:41QUESTIONS WERE HAPPY TO TO UH

22:43REACH OUT AND GET THOSE

22:44RESPONDED TO UM SO UH THIS UH I

22:49THINK THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION

22:50ABOUT THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT.

22:50THE CONTRACT ACTUALLY THIS

22:52CONTRACT IS AN EXPIRED VERSION

22:53OF A CONTRACT AND IT'S A SIMPLE

22:56TRANSACTION.

22:56UH, SO IN UH IN MAY, UH, SOME

23:00COUNCIL PASSED AND APPROVED A

23:02SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET FOR THAT

23:03ONE YEAR CONTRACT THAT EXPIRED,

23:05UH, LAST JUNE, UM, IN ORDER TO

23:08KEEP IT UH, CONSISTENT WITH UH

23:10,UH, PATROL OFFICERS, UH,

23:12CONTRACT UM AND THEN UH, SO, UH

23:16,THIS THIS TRANSACTION IS

23:18REALLY JUST TO MOVE UH, THE

23:20BUDGETARY DOLLARS FROM THE 27

23:21RESERVE INTO UH, THE 27 BUDGET

23:24FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

23:25UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE UH, IT UH

23:29,HAPPENED POST UH THE

23:31RECOMMENDED BUDGET UH, IN APRIL

23:32AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE

23:34TRANSACTING IT AT THIS POINT.

23:36UH, BUT THE THE CONTRACT IS IS

23:39UH UM BEEN IMPLEMENTED UH, THE

23:42UM THE DETECTIVES HAVE ALREADY

23:43RECEIVED THEIR WAGES, YOU KNOW

23:45,WAGE CHANGES.

23:46UH, AND ACTUALLY THE TERM

23:48OF THE CONTRACT IS EXPIRED, SO.

23:52OKAY.

23:53>> AND THAT EXPLAINS IT JUST

23:54BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILOR FLYNN,

23:56THAT EXPLAINS WHY IT'S THE

23:57SAME.

23:57IS IT THE SAME NUMBER.

23:59AS IT'S IDENTICAL?

24:01IDENTICAL AMOUNTS?

24:02UM, AS THE ONES THAT WERE

24:04APPROVED IN MAY.

24:05OKAY.

24:06>> AND I I'M BLANKING ON THE

24:08LEGAL DOCTRINE BUT I BELIEVE

24:09WHEN YOU HAVE A COLLECTIVE

24:10BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

24:11>> AND.

24:11IT.

24:12EXPIRES YOU YOU DON'T LIKE JUST

24:14NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT YOU

24:16MAINTAIN THE EXISTING AGREEMENT

24:18GOING FORWARD RATHER THAN

24:20HAVING EVERYONE JUST, YOU KNOW

24:22,BE UP IN THE AIR.

24:23SO UH, THAT'S THAT IS THAT

24:25THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

24:26THE CONTRACTS EXPIRED.

24:27EXPIRED BUT THEY STILL HAVE

24:28THOSE WAGE PROVISIONS THAT WERE

24:30APPROVED AND THE BUDGET NEEDS

24:31TO BE ADJUSTED TO ACCOMMODATE

24:33FOR THAT INCREASED COSTS.

24:35OKAY.

24:36UM OKAY.

24:37UH I'M JUST I'M GOING TO GO TO

24:39MY COLLEAGUES AND THEN IF I

24:40HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE END UH, I

24:43GUESS COUNCILOR FLYNN UH, I HAD

24:47IT.

24:48DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR

24:49BUDGET DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON?

24:50I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR CONCERN

24:52AND WE WILL WE'LL TALK ABOUT

24:53THAT ON THE RECORD BEFORE WE

24:56CLOSE THE HEARING.

24:57BUT, UM, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS

24:59FOR.

24:59OKAY, DIRECTOR?

25:01THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

25:03>> THANK YOU.

25:03JIM.

25:04JIM, WHAT IS THE, UM.

25:07ANY ANY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AS IT

25:09RELATES TO.

25:13THE THE ONGOING UM.

25:17DEBATE OR CHALLENGE AS IT

25:19RELATES TO.

25:19THE THE NUMBER OF POLICE

25:23OFFICERS WE HAVE IN THE CITY

25:25AND THE FREQUENCY OF 16 HOUR

25:28WORK WORKDAYS, UM, AND

25:31OVERSTAFFED OFFICES UM

25:35DANGEROUSLY UM UNDERSTAFFED.

25:38OVERWORKED UM LIMITED NUMBER

25:40OF POLICE OFFICERS.

25:42DOES THE LANGUAGE ADDRESS ANY

25:44OF THAT?

25:46UH UH I UH I WOULD DEFER TO UH,

25:48LABOR RELATIONS BUT I DO NOT

25:50BELIEVE THE CONTRACT SPEAKS TO

25:51THE SPECIFIC NUMBER OF OFFICERS

25:54.

25:58IT JUST ACKNOWLEDGES I THINK IN

26:00A SUMMARY IT ACKNOWLEDGES HOW

26:01MANY UM, OFFICERS WERE UH, WERE

26:05IN THAT ROLE.

26:07SO I THINK UH, FOR THE UM.

26:12THE UH, DETECTIVES AS 278

26:15MEMBERS UH, AND FOR THE

26:18SUPERIOR DETECTIVES IT'S 127

26:21MEMBERS.

26:23SO I, I HEARD FROM.

26:25DETECTIVES ON THE ON THE

26:26STREET.

26:26YEAH.

26:27AND THEY ARE TELLING ME THEY

26:29HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH

26:32DETECTIVES.

26:33TO DO.

26:33>> THE INVESTIGATIVE WORK AND

26:36THEY'RE SHORT STAFFED.

26:38HOW WILL WE ADDRESS THE MAXIMUM

26:41GANG?

26:41YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, I DO

26:43REMEMBER SORT OF UM, UH, POLICE

26:46REPRESENTATIVES TALKING ABOUT

26:47THAT DYNAMIC BECAUSE WHAT WHAT

26:49WHEN YOU DON'T COME FROM THE

26:51OUTSIDE AND BECOME A DETECTIVE,

26:53IT'S A PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITY

26:54WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

26:55UH, SO I THINK THEY TRY TO, UM

26:59,WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH

27:01EACH OTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT

27:02THEY'RE NOT DRAWING TOO MANY

27:04FROM THE REGULAR PATROL STAFF

27:07OR OR SUPERIOR OFFICER STAFF,

27:09UH, THAT ARE INVOLVED AND YOU

27:11KNOW, UH, THE DISTRICT PATROL

27:12FORCE UH, YOU KNOW, IN UH SO I

27:17THINK THIS UH IS AN ONGOING

27:18CONVERSATION AND YOU KNOW,

27:20WORKING RELATIONSHIP ON THAT

27:21PART.

27:22YEAH.

27:23>> BUT I PREFER I PREFER THE

27:24POLICE ACTUALLY ABOUT THE.

27:26WELL, THAT'S THAT'S WHY THAT'S

27:28WHY THAT'S WHY I AND THAT'S WHY

27:30I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT TO

27:31HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE

27:33POLICE HERE.

27:35UM, SO SO SO WE SO THEY CAN

27:37ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

27:39UM.

27:41JIM, HOW.

27:42>> MANY POLICE OFFICERS DO WE

27:43HAVE IN THE CITY?

27:44YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S IT'S OVER,

27:47UH, 2000 BUT I'D HAVE TO GET

27:49YOU A SPECIFIC NUMBER.

27:50UH, WE DO GET REPORTS FROM THE

27:52POLICE DEPARTMENT.

27:53UH, I LOOKED AT IT RECENTLY.

27:55BUT WHAT'S.

27:56WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE MOST UP?

27:57WHAT'S THE MOST UPDATED NUMBER

27:58?

27:59UH, I'D HAVE TO GET THROUGH

28:01THAT.

28:01YOU ALSO HAVE.

28:03UM.

28:04I THINK WE USE WE WE, UM,

28:07IDENTIFY MOST SWORN.

28:08SO IT INCLUDES THE FOUR POLICE

28:10UNIONS.

28:11YEAH.

28:11RIGHT.

28:11>> YEAH, YEAH.

28:12SWORN OFFICERS WHICH WOULD BE.

28:15UM THE THE THE.

28:16THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE

28:18THAT ARE BASICALLY ON THE

28:21STREET AND THE COMMAND STAFF I

28:23GUESS.

28:23BUT UM, CAN.

28:25CAN WE GET THAT NUMBER BEFORE

28:27WE VOTE ON THIS?

28:28SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

28:30UM.

28:34>> WHAT ARE WE DOING JIM.

28:36ON HEALTH AND WELLNESS

28:38OF POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR

28:40FAMILIES KNOWING KNOWING THAT

28:42POLICE OFFICERS UH,

28:44CONSISTENTLY WORKING 16 HOURS A

28:46DAY HOW HOW ARE WE SUPPORTING

28:49THEM.

28:49WITH THE.

28:50>> CRITICAL TIME OFF?

28:51BUT HOW ARE WE SUPPORTING THEM.

28:53WITH WORK.

28:54LIFE BALANCE EVEN AS WE CUT THE

28:57HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS

28:58FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?

29:02WELL, I YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE

29:04IS UH UM THE BUDGET DOES

29:06INCLUDE RESOURCES FOR HEALTH

29:07AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS AT THE

29:09POLICE DEPARTMENT.

29:09UH, THERE'S BEEN UH, INVEST UH

29:12INVESTMENTS IN THE LAST YEARS

29:14UH, IN THEIR OCCUPATIONAL

29:16HEALTH, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES TO

29:18SORT OF, UH, HELP FACILITATE

29:20OFFICERS WHO ARE UH, UH,

29:22MEDICALLY INCAPACITATED TO

29:24LIKE, UH, RETURN BACK TO THE

29:26WORKFORCE.

29:26SO I THINK THEY'VE BEEN VERY

29:28SUCCESSFUL ON THAT AT.

29:28THE GYM.

29:29>> I DO BELIEVE I DO.

29:30BELIEVE IN THE BUT THAT THAT

29:32HAS BEEN CUT THOUGH, HASN'T IT?

29:34THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS ASPECT

29:35OF THE POLICE?

29:38UH, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF BUT I

29:40CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP ON

29:41THAT.

29:42I BELIEVE FOR THE POLICE AND

29:43FIRE THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS UM

29:46TYPE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN HAVE

29:48BEEN CUT.

29:50UM.

29:52SO SO.

29:52>> WHAT ARE WE.

29:53DOING TO.

29:53TO ENSURE.

29:54THAT POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE

29:56WORKING 16 HOURS A DAY

29:58CONSISTENTLY HAVE THE RIGHT

30:00HAVE THE RIGHT TIME OFF AND

30:02SLEEP SO THAT THEY CAN BE

30:04EFFECTIVE ON THEIR JOB?

30:08I KNOW UH JUST FROM HEARING UH

30:10TESTIMONY IN PAST THERE ARE

30:11STRICT RULES AROUND THE NUMBER

30:13OF HOURS THAT OFFICERS ARE UM

30:16UH, ARE ELIGIBLE TO WORK AND

30:18THEY DO UM THEY DO TRACK THAT

30:22STAY ON TOP OF THAT.

30:23UM, BUT THE UH BUT IT'S NOT.

30:27ALL BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT.

30:28OFFICERS ARE TELLING ME.

30:29OFFICERS ARE TELLING ME THAT

30:30THE CONSISTENTLY WORKING 16

30:32HOUR DAYS AND AND THEN THE THE

30:35GOING HOME AND THE THEY'RE

30:37TRYING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT

30:39OF TIME WITH THEIR FAMILY THEN

30:39THEY'RE BACK TO WORK AGAIN.

30:41THEY THEY'RE TELLING ME IT'S

30:42IT'S IMPACTING THE HEALTH AND

30:45WELLNESS OF OFFICERS AND ALSO

30:47WORK LIFE BALANCE.

30:49THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ISSUES I

30:50JUST CAN'T IGNORE.

30:53UM, THEY'RE IMPORTANT.

30:54>> TO ME.

30:58UH, YEAH.

30:58COUNCILOR FLYNN SORRY, I JUST I

31:00WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU SIX

31:01MINUTES.

31:01YOU GOT ANOTHER MINUTE LEFT?

31:03UH, AND THEN I WILL WE'LL ALSO

31:04BE JOINED BY

31:05COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

31:06YEAH, BUT BUT MR CHAIR, THESE

31:08ARE THESE ARE ISSUES.

31:09>> THAT.

31:10ARE THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE

31:11NEED TO HAVE A.

31:12SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT AND

31:14WE'RE NOT.

31:15WE'RE NOT.

31:15DOING THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING A

31:17CONVERSATION ABOUT WORK LIFE

31:19BALANCE FOR POLICE OFFICERS,

31:20HOW WE'RE SUPPORTING POLICE

31:22OFFICERS.

31:23UM, JUST BECAUSE WE.

31:25IGNORE A SUBJECT DOESN'T MEAN

31:26THE SUBJECT GOES AWAY.

31:30SO MY MY JOB MY.

31:32RESPONSIBILITY IS.

31:33>> TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

31:34>> THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE PUT ME IN

31:35OFFICE FOR TO ASK ASK THE TOUGH

31:37QUESTIONS AND AND MAKE CHANGES.

31:41SO I'M.

31:42>> STILL.

31:42NOT CONFIDENT FROM THIS

31:45CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE A

31:46PLAN TO ADDRESS HEALTH AND

31:48WELLNESS PROGRAMS, THAT WE HAVE

31:50A PLAN TO ADDRESS 16 HOUR WORK

31:52DAYS.

31:53AND I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO

31:55POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE'RE

31:57PUTTING THEM IN THIS PARTICULAR

31:59SITUATION WORKING 16 HOURS A

32:02DAY AND THEN KNOWING THAT THAT.

32:04WHEN WHEN AN ISSUE.

32:06>> DOES COME COME UP.

32:07THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE.

32:09SUPPORTED AT BOSTON CITY HALL

32:10WE ALL KNOW THAT.

32:12THIS THAT THIS THIS CITY

32:14COUNCIL IS DONE FOR THE FOR THE

32:15MOST PART DON'T RESPECT THE

32:16WORK THE POLICE OFFICERS.

32:18DO SO I DO WE I DO THINK WE WE

32:21NEED TO HAVE A.

32:22SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

32:23I RESPECT THE WORK JIM IS DOING

32:25BUT I WISH I COULD GET ANSWERS

32:28TO THIS.

32:29THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

32:29OKAY.

32:30>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN.

32:32I JUST JUST MAYBE TO CLARIFY A

32:34LITTLE BIT ABOUT TODAY'S

32:36HEARING.

32:36SO, UH BUT DIRECTOR.

32:38WILLIAMSON, CAN YOU.

32:39>> JUST EXPLAIN?

32:40SO WE VOTED IN MAY TO APPROVE

32:432% INCREASES THAT WERE, UH, YOU

32:46KNOW, TAKEN MONEY OUT OF THE,

32:47UH, THE RESERVE.

32:48NOW WE'RE VOTING AGAIN.

32:51IS THIS ON?

32:52IS THIS TO MAINTAIN THAT 2%

32:54INCREASE THAT WE VOTED BACK IN

32:55MAY, IS THIS AN ADDITIONAL 2%

32:58INCREASE?

32:58JUST JUST CAN YOU.

32:59EXPLAIN THE MATH.

33:01COUNCIL I THINK WHAT YOU SAID

33:02UH, BEFORE IS EVEN THOUGH THE

33:04CONTRACTS EXPIRE, THE THE

33:06EXISTING TERMS OF THE CONTRACT

33:07CONTINUE AND SO THE THE THE

33:09WAGE BENEFITS THAT WERE

33:10APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN MAY, UM

33:13ARE IN PLACE IN UH THE OFFICE

33:16THIS IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT

33:17THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S 527

33:18BUDGET HAS SUFFICIENT RESOURCES

33:20TO COVER THOSE.

33:21YEAH, I.

33:22UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT

33:23DOESN'T MEAN YOU.

33:23DON'T HAVE A A.

33:24SERIOUS CONVERSATION.

33:26MR CHAIR, ABOUT ABOUT HEALTH

33:28AND WELLNESS.

33:29OF POLICE OFFICERS.

33:30YOU STILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE

33:32EVEN.

33:33>> THOUGH WE HAD A CONVERSATION

33:34IN MAY, IT'S.

33:35EVEN MORE.

33:35IMPORTANT NOW TO HAVE THAT

33:37CONVERSATION TO LEARN ABOUT.

33:39WHAT WHAT TOOK.

33:40PLACE IN MAY TO THE PRESENT

33:42OF HOW WE'RE.

33:42SUPPORTING POLICE OFFICERS.

33:43BECAUSE WE.

33:44>> HAD A HEARING.

33:45UM, A BUDGET HEARING ON IT SIX

33:47MONTHS AGO AND AS IF THAT'S

33:49THAT'S THAT'S NECESSARY AND

33:52THAT WILL COVER US TODAY.

33:53I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH

33:54THAT.

33:54I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A

33:55SERIOUS CONVERSATION AND IT

33:57DOESN'T SEEM LIKE.

33:58YOU WANT.

33:59>> TO ASK THOSE TOUGH

34:00QUESTIONS, MR CHAIR.

34:01NO.

34:02>> OKAY.

34:02>> WELL, UH, I.

34:03YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING A

34:05CONVERSATION ABOUT STAFFING AT

34:08THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND UH,

34:11YOU KNOW, ISSUES OF OF OF HOW

34:13OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE DOING

34:16THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

34:17I JUST I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE

34:19SUBJECT OF TODAY'S MEETING,

34:20BUT.

34:21MR CHAIR.

34:21>> IT'S.

34:22NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

34:23IT'S NOT GOING TO GET

34:24SCHEDULED.

34:25THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THESE.

34:26QUESTIONS BECAUSE UM, OUR

34:28COLLEAGUES DON'T WANT TO HAVE

34:29A.

34:30SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT

34:31WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE POLICE

34:33DEPARTMENT.

34:33SO I HAVE TO TAKE THE

34:34OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS

34:37AND GET IT ON THE RECORD THAT

34:38I'M NOT HAPPY.

34:39WITH THE WAY WE'RE WAITING.

34:40POLICE OFFICERS.

34:41WE'RE TREATING THEM WITH

34:42DISRESPECT, MISTER.

34:43>> CHAIR, AND PEOPLE REMAIN

34:44SILENT.

34:45OKAY.

34:46>> NOTED COUNCILOR FLYNN.

34:48COUNCILOR MURPHY, I'M GOING TO

34:50GIVE YOU, UH, SIX MINUTES.

34:52THANK YOU.

34:52COME FIRST.

34:54JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR

34:56FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE

34:57OFFICERS.

34:58WE HAVE BEEN PATTING OURSELVES

35:00ON THE BACK FOR HAVING SUCH A

35:02SAFE AND CROWDED, FUN SUMMER.

35:05BUT IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED BY

35:07ME THAT IT WAS BECAUSE OUR

35:08FIRST RESPONDERS STEPPED UP AND

35:10WERE AT ALL OF THE EVENTS

35:11ACROSS THE CITY AND WORKING A

35:13LOT OF OVERTIME TO MAKE SURE

35:15THAT WE IMPLEMENTED THE PLANS

35:18THAT THEY WERE EXPECTED TO

35:20FOLLOW THROUGH ON.

35:20SO THANK YOU TO THAT.

35:22I ALSO WANT TO ASK THANK YOU

35:24FOR BEING HERE, JIM.

35:25BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A

35:28CONTRACT IS LABOR RELATIONS ON

35:29THIS HEARING OR WERE THEY

35:30INVITED?

35:35I BELIEVE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR

35:36THE FOR ME.

35:38UH SO UH.

35:39WHOEVER CAN ANSWER THAT.

35:40YEAH NO I BE BECAUSE WE'RE

35:42COVERING THE SAME UH, SUBJECT

35:45MATTER THAT WE COVERED IN MAY.

35:47UH.

35:48>> I DO FEEL THOSE THINGS.

35:49>> COME UP BECAUSE I HAVE SOME

35:50SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE

35:51NEW INFORMATION FROM THE LAST

35:53TIME AND IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE

35:56TO KEEP THIS CONTRACT GOING

35:57BECAUSE WE COULD VOTE NO AND

36:01ASK FOR MORE IF NEEDED.

36:02SO I BELIEVE THAT, UM, THAT'S

36:05NECESSARY AND I DO WANT TO

36:06THANK MAYBE JEAN IS ON BUT I DO

36:08KNOW THAT PRESIDENT GRIFFIN

36:10FROM THE UM DETECTIVES UNION IS

36:13ON.

36:13HE'S NOT A PANELIST NOW, BUT HE

36:15DID HOP ON TO LISTEN.

36:16HE WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS

36:17MEETING.

36:18SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

36:19UM, CURRENTLY WE'RE BUDGETED

36:22FOR 283 DETECTIVES AND I

36:27BELIEVE WE ONLY HAVE 238.

36:29SO WE'RE SHORT ABOUT 45

36:31DETECTIVES RIGHT NOW AND

36:33DETECTIVES JIM I'M NOT SURE IF

36:34YOU KNOW THIS BUT IF YOU CAN

36:35HELP ANSWER THIS OUR CIVIL

36:37SERVICE PATROL OFFICERS AND

36:38THEY CAN SUPPLEMENT THE POLICE

36:40FORCE AND THAT WE ALSO HAD BEEN

36:45TOLD AND THE DETECTIVES HAVE

36:47BEEN TOLD THAT WE WERE GOING TO

36:49HAVE A CLASS OF 25 GOING IN THE

36:51ACADEMY THIS MONTH AND THIS

36:52MONTH IS ALMOST OVER.

36:54DO WE KNOW ONE THAT CLASS

36:55OF NEW DETECTIVES WILL BE

36:57TRAINED BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE

36:59WE'VE DELAYED IT AND WE KNOW

37:01WE'RE ALREADY SHORT 45

37:03DETECTIVES.

37:04I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO, UH,

37:06COUNSELOR ON THE ON THE UH ON

37:09UH WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE UH,

37:11RATE AND UH, PLACE DETECTIVES

37:13INTO UH.

37:15UM IF WE FOLLOW ANY SORT

37:17OF BUDGET SORT OF RECRUIT

37:18CLASSES FOR, UH, PATROL

37:20OFFICERS AND THINGS.

37:22BUT DETECTIVE, SORT OF I'D HAVE

37:23TO FIND OUT FROM THE POLICE

37:25DEPARTMENT.

37:26UM, WE'RE ARE YOU TOLD WHEN

37:28CLASSES ARE BUDGETED BUT THEN

37:30CANCELED?

37:31DO YOU KNOW OR IF.

37:32YOU ALSO.

37:33TOLD LIKE A CERTAIN NUMBER

37:35OF BUDGETED BUT WE'RE UNDER

37:36THAT.

37:37HOW DO YOU GET NOTIFIED

37:38OF THAT?

37:38UH, WE WE IT GOES THROUGH THE

37:41HIRING PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE

37:43SAYING THEY WANT TO PROMOTE A

37:44CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DETECTIVES,

37:46UM.

37:47UH.

37:48>> OF RATE THEM AS DETECTIVES.

37:49THERE IS A PROCESS THAT UM I

37:52THINK YOU RATE IT AND THEN UH,

37:54SIX MONTHS THEN YOU'RE

37:57OFFICIALLY LIKE A DETECTIVE

37:58AFTER THE TRAINING PERIOD.

38:00AND I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION I

38:02WISH SOMEONE WAS HERE WHO COULD

38:03ANSWER ME PROPERLY.

38:04BUT I WANT TO PUT THIS QUESTION

38:06ON THE RECORD.

38:07ARE WE PURPOSELY NOT TRAINING

38:10DETECTIVES BECAUSE WE'RE LOW ON

38:12PATROL OFFICERS?

38:14AND IF PATROL OFFICERS ARE

38:18PROMOTED, WHICH THEY SHOULD BE

38:19WHEN THEY STUDY AND DESERVE

38:21THESE PROMOTIONS BUT THEY'RE

38:22CHOOSING NOT TO PROMOTE THEM

38:24BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE THEM AWAY

38:25FROM.

38:26BEING SLOTS IN THE DIFFERENT,

38:28YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENTS ACROSS

38:30THE CITY WHERE WE'RE ALREADY

38:31UNDERSTAFFED BY POLICE OFFICERS

38:33BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE

38:34CONCERNING TO ME MY FOR NOT

38:36ALLOWING OFFICERS WHO HAVE

38:38STUDIED AND WORKED HARD TO GET

38:40PROMOTED BECAUSE WE CAN'T

38:41AFFORD TO LOSE THEM AS OFFICERS

38:45PATROLMEN.

38:46SO WE'RE GOING TO NOT ALLOW

38:47THEM TO BE DETECTIVES IN THAT

38:49CASE DO YOU KNOW DO WE PRORATE

38:50THEIR RAISES IF WE KNOW THAT

38:53THEY WERE NOT PROMOTED NOT BY

38:57THEIR CHOICE BUT WE JUST

38:58COULDN'T AFFORD TO.

39:00I'M NOT SURE, COUNSELOR.

39:02I DON'T THINK SO.

39:03BUT OKAY.

39:04AND THIS JUST CONFUSING RIGHT

39:07TO KNOW WHAT CAN THE PATROL

39:09OFFICERS DO AND IF WE'RE

39:11CHOOSING NOT TO PROMOTE THEM

39:12THEN THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.

39:14UM, THEN ARE YOU EXPECTING TO

39:15VOTE ON THIS WEDNESDAY?

39:18UH, I I WOULD LIKE TO, UH YOU

39:22KNOW, IF YOU I GUESS IF YOU

39:24HAVE QUESTIONS.

39:25>> GET SOME ANSWERS BEFORE THEN

39:26ARE YOU CONFIDENT YOU COULD.

39:27YEP.

39:27I CAN CERTAINLY, UH, REACH OUT

39:31TO UH WE CAN.

39:33WE CAN TRY TO GET ANSWERS ON

39:35THESE ON WEDNESDAY AND, UH, YOU

39:37KNOW, IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD

39:39JUST TAKE AN EXTRA WEEK, YOU

39:41KNOW, TO GET THE ANSWERS I CAN

39:42WE CAN VOTE ON IT.

39:44I THINK.

39:44IT'S UP TO YOU AS THE CHAIR,

39:46BUT WOULD YOU ALLOW, UM.

39:48THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNION TO

39:51ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS?

39:53I KNOW HE'S ON THIS HEARING NOW

39:54HE'S LISTENING.

39:56UH HUH UH I SUPPOSE YEAH, I

39:59THINK THAT'S FINE.

40:00WHY DON'T WE WHEN WE GET

40:01THROUGH THIS, UH UH, WITH

40:04MR WILLIAMSON AND WE CAN BRING

40:05ON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PUBLIC

40:07TESTIMONY OR WE CAN BRING YOU

40:08KNOW.

40:10UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S WHAT

40:11HAPPENED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO

40:12ALSO COUNCIL FLYNN REMEMBER

40:13WHEN IT WAS LARRY SPOKE AS

40:16PUBLIC TESTIMONY, NOT AS A

40:17PANELIST BECAUSE HE WASN'T ALSO

40:19INVITED TO BE PART OF THE

40:20CONVERSATION.

40:21I JUST THINK IT WOULD MAKE LIFE

40:23EASIER FOR EVERYONE AND SHOW

40:25THE RESPECT TO OUR UNION

40:26PRESIDENT TO REPRESENT OUR CITY

40:28WORKERS.

40:29UM THANK YOU.

40:30I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS BUT I

40:31HOPE WE CAN GET THESE QUESTIONS

40:33ANSWERED AND WE CAN RESPECT THE

40:34UNION LEADERS WHO SHOW UP EVERY

40:36DAY FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES.

40:38THANK YOU.

40:39OKAY.

40:40>> UM.

40:42UH, YES.

40:43COUNCILOR FITZGERALD OR IS

40:44RIGHT.

40:45UH.

40:46>> JUST, UH SIX MINUTES.

40:50UM UH YES.

40:52I'LL, UH I'LL FILL OUT JUST AT

40:54THE TOP BUT WE HAD A HEARING IN

40:56MAY ON THIS CONTRACT CONTRACTS

40:58EXPIRED BUT, UH, TRYING TO

41:01PROVIDE THE SAME WAGE INCREASE

41:03SO THERE IS UH, DOCKETS TO, UH,

41:05PULL MONEY FROM THE RESERVES

41:07FOR THE DETECTIVES AND THE

41:09DETECTIVE SUPERIOR OFFICERS.

41:11UH, AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE

41:14SORT OF HAVING A MORE TRUNCATED

41:17PROCESS OR AT LEAST THAT'S THAT

41:19WAS THE IDEA.

41:20UH, AND WE NEED WE'RE GOING TO

41:21HEAR FROM, UH.

41:23YOU KNOW.

41:23SOME UH, UNION, UH,

41:26REPRESENTATION BUT SO SIX

41:28MINUTES.

41:30THANK YOU SIR.

41:30UH.

41:31FIRST I JUST WANT TO GET

41:32EVERYONE WITH SOME NUMBERS.

41:33>> AND I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE

41:34YOU GOT YOUR PEN OUT.

41:35UM, AS OF.

41:37AUGUST 26TH, 2026.

41:38NEXT HAS SAID WE HAVE, UH, FOR

41:41PATROLMEN WE HAVE 1423

41:45PATROLMAN.

41:46AS OF THE END OF AUGUST.

41:47ALL RIGHT.

41:48UH, WE HAVE 2050 ALL SWORN

41:53INCLUDING COMMAND STAFF.

41:55UH.

41:55>> SO IF YOU INCLUDE THE

41:56COMMAND STAFF.

41:57THAT NUMBER JUMPS FROM.

42:00UH 1423 TO 2050.

42:02AND THEN WE HAVE.

42:03241 UH DETECTIVES.

42:06UH, THERE IS NO MINIMUM NUMBER

42:08FOR DETECTIVES, BUT WE ARE.

42:11SUPER SHORT ON DETECTIVE, SO I

42:12KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A MINIMUM

42:14BUT 241 UM, AND I THINK AARON,

42:18THIS RELATES WHEN YOU GUYS WHEN

42:19WE TRY TO DETECT THAT THEY'RE

42:21SAYING HEY, WE'RE STRETCHED

42:22THIN.

42:22UH, 241 BUT NOT NEARLY ENOUGH.

42:25SO JUST WANTED TO, UM, GET

42:27THOSE NUMBERS OUT THERE AS

42:28OF THE END OF AUGUST SO WE AT

42:30LEAST CAN WORK OFF SOMETHING

42:31AND THAT'S FROM THAT IS FROM HR

42:34UM, THAT WE GOT THOSE FOR THE

42:36APD.

42:37UH, JIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

42:38FOR BEING HERE, MAN.

42:39UH, I JUST REALLY HAVE A, UM A

42:42QUESTION.

42:43I KNOW BEN JUST SORT OF GAVE

42:44ME THE RUNDOWN.

42:45THE CHAIR JUST GAVE ME THE

42:46RUNDOWN, BUT, UM, SO IT

42:48EXPIRED.

42:50WE CONTINUE.

42:50>> OFF THE FORMER CONTRACT.

42:52IT IS THIS 2% RAISE.

42:54IT'S CONTINUING.

42:56SO WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON NOW

42:57JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE

42:58GOOD.

42:59UP UNTIL WHEN?

43:00UP UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW

43:02CONTRACTOR UP UNTIL THE NEXT

43:04FISCAL YEAR.

43:05IS THIS JUST FOR THE ENTIRE

43:07YEAR.

43:07YOU THIS IS TO BASICALLY MAKE

43:09UH TO INCREASE THE POLICE

43:10DEPARTMENT'S HAVE FOR 27 BUDGET

43:12TO MAKE SURE IT HAS THE

43:14RESOURCES IN IT UH FOR THAT.

43:15CONTRACT AND DURING THAT TIME

43:18WE ARE PLANNING TO WE'LL BE

43:20NEGOTIATING FOR THE NEXT

43:22CONTRACT TO TAKE EFFECT.

43:23DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE OF IF

43:25THAT WILL END?

43:26WILL THAT BE RESOLVED PRIOR TO

43:29FY 27 TO TO UH.

43:32I'M NOT SURE ON THE TIMING

43:34OF THE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS UH.

43:36BUT BUT.

43:37OKAY BUT SO WE'RE WE'RE

43:39BASICALLY DOING THIS TO MAKE

43:40SURE THERE'S MONEY FOR JULY 1ST

43:42UP UNTIL JULY OR JUNE.

43:46>> 30TH 2027.

43:46EXACTLY.

43:47>> OKAY.

43:49>> UM ALL RIGHT.

43:51UH YEAH.

43:51NO, I THINK THAT'S I DON'T HAVE

43:53ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON WHAT

43:54WAS ASKED.

43:55UM, IT'S UH THANK YOU FOR

43:56HELPING ME UNDERSTAND SORT

43:57OF THE TIMELINE, UH, AND WHAT

43:59WE GOT HERE AND I ACTUALLY

44:01WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM IF

44:02THERE IF THERE IS UNION.

44:04LEADERSHIP HERE ON THE CALL FOR

44:05TESTIMONY.

44:06UM, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE

44:07GREAT TO GET THEIR TAKE, UH,

44:08THEIR SIDE OF THINGS.

44:09SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR

44:12ALLOWING FOR THAT AND I LOOK

44:13FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THEM.

44:14THANK YOU CHAIR.

44:15YEAH.

44:15>> THANK YOU,

44:16COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

44:17UH, I JUST UH SO I GUESS, UH,

44:20DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON IT'S A, UH

44:22DO YOU KNOW, IN THE NEW

44:24CONTRACT, ARE THERE, UM THERE

44:26ANY CHANGES FOR HEALTH CARE?

44:29UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HEAR

44:31HOW HEALTH CARE COSTS.

44:32>> ARE INCREASING.

44:36I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING NOTED

44:39ON THE SUMMARIES, COUNSELOR.

44:41OKAY.

44:42>> UM.

44:43>> BUT I WOULD DEFER THAT.

44:44OKAY.

44:45>> UH, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE

44:47TIMING, UH, CAN YOU JUST

44:49EXPLAIN LIKE IF WE HOLD OFF ON

44:52VOTING LIKE WHAT?

44:53WHAT IS THE WHY IS THIS BEING

44:55PUT UP NOW AND.

44:56RIGHT RIGHT.

44:58LIKE UM, YOU KNOW ON LIKE SORT

45:00OF LIKE A THE ORIGINAL 1ST MAY

45:02THAT THAT.

45:04UH KICKS OFF THE ABILITY TO

45:05ACTUALLY EXECUTE AND GIVE THE

45:06WAGE INCREASE THE WAGE

45:08INCREASES ARE HAVE ALREADY

45:10HAPPENED AND THIS IS REALLY

45:11JUST A CORRECTION OR OF ABOUT A

45:13527 BUDGET TO MAKE SURE THAT

45:15IT'S.

45:15>> THE RIGHT VALUE.

45:16TO UH, COVER THESE COSTS.

45:19OKAY.

45:19>> UM, AND UH YEAH, I JUST

45:22FOLLOWING UP ON

45:24COUNCILOR FITZGERALD'S POINT I

45:25KNOW IN MAY WE TALKED ABOUT.

45:26JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES I THINK

45:28IT WAS THAT, UH WE HEARD THAT.

45:31THE DEPARTMENT IS SHORT STAFFED

45:33OF APPROXIMATELY 45 DETECTIVES

45:35UH, BACK THEN.

45:36SO IT SOUNDS SIMILAR UH UH,

45:40NUMBERS.

45:41UM, OKAY, I I WE I'M FINE.

45:45IF THERE IS ANY REPRESENTATION

45:48WE CAN, UH, SORT OF SET UP UH,

45:51YOU KNOW, A SECOND PANEL HERE

45:53AGAIN IF PEOPLE HAVE SOME

45:56QUESTIONS UM, AND I DON'T KNOW

46:00IF UNION REPRESENTATION WANTS

46:02TO WHAT'S WHAT'S THE SUBJECT

46:03THEMSELVES TO THAT BUT, UM,

46:05DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY

46:06QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR

46:08WILLIAMSON?

46:09YEAH, I GUESS WE'LL GO IN

46:10ORDER.

46:11UH, COUNCILOR FLYNN.

46:13MR CHAIR, UH.

46:15I YOU KNOW, I SAID AT THE

46:17BEGINNING I WOULD LIKE TO.

46:18HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE THE

46:20POLICE OFFICERS AND THE UNION.

46:22UNION LEADERSHIP.

46:23UM, RESPECT THEM.

46:26UH, WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE

46:27TO SAY SO I DON'T HAVE ANY

46:29QUESTIONS.

46:29I'D RATHER I'D RATHER USE MY

46:30TIME TO HEAR FROM, UM, THE

46:32POLICE OFFICERS AND THE UNION

46:34UNION MEMBERS.

46:35OKAY.

46:36>> UH, COUNCILOR FLYNN OR

46:38COUNCILOR FITZGERALD?

46:39UM, SAME.

46:39I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT

46:41PANEL.

46:41THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

46:42OKAY.

46:43UH, OKAY.

46:46UH, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR

46:48WILLIAMSON.

46:50UH UH, KIRISHIMA I DON'T KNOW.

46:53UM YOU.

46:54I'VE PROMOTED MR GRIFFIN AS A

46:56PANELIST SO YOU CAN CALL ON

46:57HIM.

46:57OKAY.

46:58>> UH, YEAH.

47:00UH UM.

47:02UH, YES.

47:02BOB GRIFFIN, YOU'RE HERE I

47:04GUESS, UH, IF.

47:06YOU YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT

47:07TO SAY?

47:08YOU GOT A COUPLE MINUTES?

47:10UH, AND THEN WE'LL, UH WE HAVE

47:12THREE COUNSELORS HERE IF THEY

47:13HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

47:15UH, UM.

47:17WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

47:18SO, UH, I GUESS THE FLOOR IS

47:20YOURS.

47:22WELL.

47:23>> THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE

47:25COUNCIL MURPHY, UH, FOR

47:25INVITING MEJIA.

47:26UH, I APPRECIATE IT.

47:28UH, I JUST I GOT AN I GOT IN

47:30LATE UM, TO THE CONVERSATION

47:32HERE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE I

47:34THINK WE ARE ABOUT 238 TO 241

47:37DETECTIVES RIGHT NOW WE'RE

47:38BUDGET FOR 283.

47:40THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A

47:41CLASS OF DETECTIVES IN I THINK

47:43IT MR WILLIAMSON WAS SAYING HE

47:44WAS SAYING MAYBE ABOUT SIX

47:46MONTHS THAT IT'S ONLY A MONTH

47:47TO TRAIN DETECTIVES.

47:48THEY GET OUT AND THEN THEY CAN

47:50BE, UM, A DETECTIVE.

47:51THE SIX MONTHS IS FOR SUPERIOR

47:53DETECTIVES.

47:54SO IF THE, UM A SERGEANT, UH,

47:57GETS PUT INTO A UNIT, UH, THEY

47:59HAVE TO STAY IN THAT, YOU KNOW,

48:00FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN THE

48:01UNIT UM, INVESTIGATIVE UNIT

48:04THEY'LL PUT THEM INTO THE UNIT

48:05FOR SIX MONTHS, THEY'LL RATE

48:06THEM.

48:06DETECTIVE, DON'T, UH, SERGEANT

48:08DETECTIVE LIEUTENANT.

48:09DETECTIVE CAPTAIN DETECTIVE.

48:10UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

48:13UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GET YOU

48:16KNOW, EVEN WITH THE CLASS OF 25

48:18THAT POSSIBLY WILL BE GOING IN

48:19OCTOBER THAT WE WERE TOLD

48:20SEPTEMBER THEN GOT MOVE TO

48:22OCTOBER.

48:23NOT NOW.

48:24UH, SO IF IT GOES IN

48:25OCTOBER NOW YOU'RE TALKING LATE

48:26NOVEMBER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO

48:28WE'RE GOING TO GET UH SOME

48:29RELIEF AND I JUST WANT TO SAY

48:31CASTLE MURPHY KIND OF TOUCHED

48:32ON THIS WE HAVE 238 TO 241

48:35RIGHT.

48:35BUT AND THE PATROLMEN ARE DOWN

48:36A LITTLE BIT.

48:37WE DID A FOIA REQUEST THROUGH,

48:39UH, HUMAN RESOURCES WHERE ABOUT

48:40THAT WITH THE SAME OH, THAT THE

48:42PATROLMAN RIGHT WHERE THEY WERE

48:43ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO AND STILL

48:45UNDERSTAFFED.

48:45DEFINITELY.

48:46UH, BUT WE ARE 50 ALMOST COMING

48:50UP ON 50 BELOW WHERE WE WERE AT

48:52UH 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO.

48:54THE CASELOADS ARE GETTING

48:55HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE YOU KNOW

48:57,THEY THINK OF WHAT HAS

48:58CHANGED IN THE LAST YOU KNOW,

48:59WITH AI AND WITH WITH UM YOU

49:01KNOW, THE CAMERA STUFF THAT

49:02WE'VE UM OUR MEMBERS HAVE TO GO

49:04INTO AND SEARCH ALL THIS ALL

49:06THIS FOOTAGE, ALL THIS DATA AND

49:08CELL PHONES, ALL THAT THERE'S

49:09SO MANY THINGS NOW WITH

49:10TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE DOING

49:11DIFFERENTLY.

49:12SO WE'RE HAVING THE CASELOAD

49:13THE LARGER THE THE WORK IS

49:15HARDER NOW AND WE'RE GETTING UM

49:17WE HAVING LESS DETECTIVE SO THE

49:19AND IT GOES RIGHT INTO THE

49:22HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF OUR

49:23MEMBERS RIGHT.

49:24THE CASELOAD IS CRAZY BUT WE

49:26CAN ALSO IF WE HAVE LIKE THE

49:28PATROLMAN WE SUPPLEMENT THE

49:30PATROL FORCE ON THIS SHORT WE

49:31GET ORDERED INTO INTO UNIFORM

49:34THE PATROLMAN THEY DON'T

49:36SUPPLEMENT OUR CASELOADS.

49:37WE WE DO OUR OWN CASELOAD

49:38BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE'RE READY,

49:40WE'RE TRAINED AND WE'RE READY

49:41DETECTIVES.

49:41SO THAT RIGHT THERE I I WOULD

49:44SAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS

49:45TO PUT MORE DETECTIVES ON GET

49:46US BACK UP TO THE 278 TO 83.

49:49BUT IN TERMS OF HEALTH AND

49:50WELLNESS, I NOTICED YOU GUYS

49:51WERE ALL AT THE UM AND IT WAS

49:53GREAT.

49:54UH, WE HAD THE US YOU KNOW, THE

49:56DOG DIAGNOSTIC SERVICES IN LAST

49:58LAST YEAR YOU GUYS WERE UP IN

50:00WEST ROXBURY FOR THE

50:02FIREFIGHTERS LAST WEEK I

50:03BELIEVE.

50:03YES I'VE YEP I WAS OUT THERE.

50:06YOU KNOW I CONGRATULATE YOU FOR

50:07THAT.

50:07I CONGRATULATE THEM FOR GETTING

50:08THAT DONE.

50:09WE AND THAT'S I THINK FUNDED BY

50:10THE CITY THROUGH A GRANT WE

50:12DON'T WHEN WE DO THAT WE HAVE

50:13THEM IN FOR OUR MEMBERS WE WE

50:16HAVE TO WE HAVE TO FUNDRAISE

50:18FOR OUR HEALTH HEALTH

50:19SCREENINGS.

50:20SO WE RAISE MONEY AND WE SPEND

50:21OUR OWN MONEY AS A UNION TO DO

50:22THAT FOR OUR MEMBERS.

50:23AND WE'VE DONE ABOUT 300

50:24MEMBERS IN THE LAST 3 OR 4

50:26YEARS AND WE FUND AND EVERY

50:27TIME YOU DO THEM YOU TALK TO ED

50:29KELLY I SAW WAS THERE IF THE IF

50:30SAM DILLON EVERY TIME YOU DO

50:32100 MEMBERS YOU GET ABOUT THREE

50:33PEOPLE THAT YOU SAVE IN THEIR

50:35LIVES.

50:36SO WE'RE SAVING LIVES WHEN WE

50:37DO THIS BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE

50:39HAVE TO FUNDRAISE AND THE, UH,

50:42CREDIT UNION DOWN AT THE FIRST

50:43RESPONDERS CREDIT UNION HAS

50:44BEEN GREAT TO US.

50:44SO WE APPRECIATE WHAT THEY DO

50:46WITH US.

50:46BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE

50:48THINK THE CITY SHOULD DO.

50:49THIS SHOULD BE A BUDGET IN THE

50:50CITY UM IN THE BUDGET FOR SOME

50:51FUNDING FOR SOME FUNDS FOR US

50:53TO HAVE UH THE HEALTH

50:54SCREENINGS DONE AS WELL AND

50:56RATHER THAN HAVE US MAKE A

50:57RECORD AND RAISE OUR OWN FUNDS

50:58FOR A BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S LIFE

51:00SAVING UH, SCREENINGS.

51:02UH, BUT UM.

51:03YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT JUST

51:05BECAUSE YOU MISSED THE

51:06BEGINNING, UH, OF SO WHAT WE'RE

51:08HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY

51:10IS THE 2% WAGE INCREASES THAT

51:12WERE APPROVED, UH, IN MAY.

51:16YOU KNOW WHERE THOSE DOCKETS

51:17ARE BEFORE US?

51:19UH, AND YOU KNOW, I'M ASSUMING

51:22THAT THE UNION, UH, YOU KNOW,

51:25PENDING THE RENEGOTIATION OR

51:27NEGOTIATION OF THE NEW CONTRACT

51:29WOULD SUPPORT THE THE 2%, YOU

51:32KNOW, GETTING THE MONEY OUT

51:33OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

51:35RESERVE TO FUND 2% WAGE

51:37INCREASES FOR YOUR MEMBERS THAT

51:39THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S WHAT

51:41WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT.

51:42I YOU KNOW, I KNOW UH, MY MY

51:44COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO

51:45HIGHLIGHT SOME OTHER ISSUES AND

51:47THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES WITH UH

51:49WITH YOUR MEMBERS AND WE

51:51CERTAINLY AS A COUNCIL WE

51:52SHOULD BE WORKING ON THESE ARE

51:53ALL WORTHWHILE.

51:54THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.

51:55>> AND THANK YOU FOR

51:56HIGHLIGHTING THOSE.

51:56UH, BUT AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO MY

51:59COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS JUST

52:00JUST TO GIVE YOU THE THE LEVEL

52:02SET HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

52:03DOCKET, UH, DOCKETS THAT WOULD

52:04TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE

52:05COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RESERVES

52:06TO.

52:07FUND UH, THE WAGES FOR UH, THE

52:11DETECTIVES BENEVOLENT UH

52:13SOCIETY AND THE DETECTIVE.

52:14BENEVOLENT SOCIETY FOR SUPERIOR

52:17OFFICERS UM.

52:18SO THAT WE HAD APPROVED LAST

52:19YEAR.

52:20BUT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

52:22I'M JUST GOING TO I'M GOING TO

52:23THROW IT TO MY COLLEAGUES.

52:25UH UH, YOU KNOW, HOW ABOUT.

52:27UM YOU KNOW.

52:28WE'LL GIVE YOU.

52:30LET'S SEE FOUR MINUTES UH, FOR

52:33QUESTIONS.

52:33>> YOU KNOW, MR CHAIR, SIX

52:35MINUTES.

52:36UM SIX MINUTES.

52:37HE'S HE'S HE'S.

52:38>> A.

52:38UNION PRESIDENT.

52:39YES, I HEAR YOU.

52:40UH, WELL, IT'S A SURPRISE THAT,

52:41UH, WE'RE DOING FOUR MINUTES IF

52:43YOU HAVE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS

52:44WILL.

52:44>> COME BACK.

52:46OKAY.

52:47WELL.

52:47>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO

52:49BOB AND, UM, HIS

52:51PROFESSIONALISM AND HIS

52:52ADVOCACY FOR HIS MEMBERS.

52:55UM, HEALTH AND WELLNESS IS AN

52:56ISSUE WITH.

52:57WE'VE TALKED.

52:58ABOUT AND WORKED ON FOR UH FOR

53:00FOR MANY YEARS I WAS I WAS

53:03LISTENING TO YOUR CONVERSATION

53:05AND.

53:06IT STRUCK ME.

53:08THAT BASICALLY.

53:09UNION THE UNION AND MEMBERS ARE

53:12ALMOST PAYING FOR THEIR OWN

53:15ASPECTS.

53:15SOME PARTS OF THEIR HEALTH AND

53:17WELLNESS.

53:17IS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE TO.

53:19SAY BOBBY.

53:21THAT THAT'S ACCURATE.

53:22UH, COST OF FUN.

53:23THANK YOU.

53:23AND IT'S UM.

53:26SO SO WE GOT SOME WE GOT SOME

53:28FUNDRAISING DOING SOME GOLF

53:29TOURNAMENTS STUFF LIKE THAT BUT

53:31WE ALSO I THINK WE PAID UH

53:32MEMBERS.

53:33PAID AND 60,000 FOR THEIR OWN

53:35LAST YEAR SCANS FOR THEIR OWN

53:37UH, SCANS AND UM WE HAD THEM

53:39OUT TO THE UNION HALL.

53:40WE BROUGHT THE THE SAME TRUCK

53:41THAT YOU PROBABLY SAW LAST WEEK

53:43AT THE WITH THE FIRE.

53:44WE BROUGHT THEM TO OUR UNION

53:45HALL AND YEAH, WE PAID FOR YOU

53:48KNOW, WHATEVER WE COULDN'T

53:49WHATEVER THE WE HAD LET'S SAY

53:5150,000 IT COST $100,000.

53:53WE PAID THE UM THE EXTRA SO

53:54ABOUT $60,000 LAST YEAR OUT

53:56OF OUR FUNDS.

53:58THANK YOU.

53:59>> UM THANK YOU.

53:59THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER.

54:01RESPECT THE ANSWER AS AS A CITY

54:05WE'RE BETTER THAN THAT.

54:08HAVING HAVING.

54:09POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR

54:10FAMILIES AND THE UNION AND TO

54:13TRY TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE

54:16HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR THEIR

54:18MEDICAL NEEDS.

54:20WHAT WE'RE.

54:21ASKING THEM BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A

54:23CRITICAL ISSUE THAT IT'S SO

54:25IMPORTANT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO

54:26TO.

54:27PAY FOR IT PAY FOR.

54:28IT ON YOUR OWN.

54:29YOU KNOW.

54:30THE THE CITY'S NOT GOING TO PAY

54:32FOR ALL OF IT.

54:33UM THE YOU KNOW, YOU GOT YOU'RE

54:36ON THE HOOK FOR SOME OF IT I

54:37DON'T I DON'T SUPPORT THAT.

54:39>> I THINK WHEN WE PUT.

54:40SOMEONE IN HARM'S WAY FOR AN

54:43EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME EIGHT

54:45HOURS A DAY, 16 HOURS A DAY AND

54:48OH, BY THE WAY, YOU GUYS HAVE

54:50TO PAY SOME OF YOUR HEALTH AND

54:51WELLNESS.

54:52I DON'T SUPPORT THAT.

54:53THAT'S NOT THE BOSTON UM, FROM

54:56UM I'M I'M PRETTY ANGRY ABOUT

54:58THAT RIGHT NOW AND I KNOW THIS

55:02THIS CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T

55:04SUPPORT.

55:04>> IT DOESN'T.

55:05SUPPORT THE RANK AND FILE

55:07POLICE OFFICERS.

55:07WHY WHY WHY.

55:09>> DO YOU SAY THAT, ED?

55:10WELL.

55:11LOOK LISTEN TO WHAT WE JUST

55:13HEARD.

55:13THAT THAT THAT POLICE OFFICERS

55:15ARE PAYING FOR THEIR OWN

55:16MEDICAL CARE.

55:16THAT'S PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS.

55:18THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS.

55:19THANKFULLY THEY ARE PAYING IT

55:21THAT THE THE THE THE MEN AND

55:23WOMEN AND THEIR FAMILIES AND

55:24THE UNION THEY'RE PAYING IT BUT

55:26THAT'S THE JOB OF A CITY.

55:27THAT'S THE JOB OF THE CITY

55:29GOVERNMENT IN MY OPINION.

55:32UM I'M EMBARRASSED.

55:34I'M REALLY EMBARRASSED AS A

55:35LONGTIME BOSTON RESIDENT

55:37KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT

55:40PROVIDING POLICE OFFICERS AND

55:42THEIR FAMILIES WITH THE

55:43CRITICAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS

55:44VARIOUS SCREENINGS AND I JUST

55:47CAN'T SIT HERE AND PRETEND

55:49THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

55:51AND CAN I JUST SAY ONE ONE

55:52THING?

55:53SORRY.

55:53YEAH, YEAH, I.

55:54>> BET I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE

55:55ABOUT THE MONEY THAT THE 50,000

55:57THAT I THAT WAS THROUGH

55:59FUNDRAISING THE OTHER 60,000

56:00WAS FROM OUR FROM OUR OWN

56:02COFFERS LET'S SAY RIGHT THE

56:03CITY PAID THE CITY PAY NONE

56:05OF IT WOULD SAY THAT THEY

56:06DIDN'T PAY HALF THEY DIDN'T

56:07THEY PAID NONE OF IT.

56:08YEAH I.

56:10I KNOW THAT WAS AN ISSUE MYSELF

56:12AND JOHN AND ERIN WE.

56:14WE WORKED ON DURING THE BUDGET

56:16ON HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR

56:17POLICE.

56:18I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A

56:19SERIOUS CONVERSATION.

56:20GOING IN.

56:22>> THE.

56:22FUTURE ABOUT.

56:23WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING.

56:25>> TO TREAT POLICE.

56:25OFFICERS WITH.

56:26RESPECT OR NOT.

56:27UM, AND IF WE ARE.

56:29>> GOING TO TREAT THEM WITH

56:29RESPECT WE HAVE TO WE.

56:31HAVE TO ADDRESS HEALTH AND

56:32WELLNESS AND SCREENING RELATED

56:34ISSUES.

56:35UM.

56:35HIS HIS.

56:37>> A POLICE OFFICER, BOBBY

56:38GRIFFIN.

56:38THAT'S DOING EVERYTHING.

56:40HE CAN FOR HIS MEMBERS AND THE

56:43CITY OF BOSTON IS NOT STEPPING

56:45UP UM, TO.

56:46SUPPORT TO SUPPORT THE MEMBERS

56:48.

56:48UM, I'M PRETTY OUTRAGED.

56:50I'M PRETTY UPSET ABOUT THAT.

56:51BUT, UM, I'LL I'LL I'LL LEAVE

56:55IT TO THE NEXT

56:56COUNCIL COLLEAGUE BECAUSE I'M

56:57I'M OUT OF TIME, I BELIEVE.

56:58OKAY.

56:59>> YEAH.

56:59>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN.

57:00UH, COUNCILOR MURPHY.

57:02YES.

57:03>> YOU'RE HERE OKAY.

57:04YEP.

57:04AND THANK YOU, BOBBY FOR

57:07HOPPING ON ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE

57:08.

57:09AND I THINK IT'S ALWAYS.

57:10IMPORTANT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH

57:13HEARINGS.

57:14I BELIEVE AND OFTENTIMES WHEN I

57:17FILE OR SPONSOR HEARINGS THE

57:18ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T SHOW UP

57:20TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

57:21SO I'M HAPPY THAT WE CAN GET

57:22SOME CLARIFYING ANSWERS TO WHAT

57:25I BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT AND IT

57:26DOES TIED TO THE BUDGET AND IT

57:28TIES TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO

57:29ADVOCATE TO MAKE SURE WE SEE IN

57:30OUR BUDGET.

57:32ANOTHER THING THAT IS

57:34CONCERNING TO ME IS WHEN WE PIT

57:35OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS AGAINST

57:37EACH OTHER, ESPECIALLY OUR

57:38FIRST RESPONDERS.

57:39I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO

57:40JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I THINK

57:44IT'S ALWAYS BEEN TRUE AND YOU

57:46WOULD KNOW BEING OUT THERE ON

57:47THE STREETS UM BOBBY BUT OUR

57:49EMS RECENTLY IN THE NEWS WE'RE

57:51HEARING A LOT OF EMS BEING

57:54ATTACKED AND NOT TREATED

57:55PROPERLY AND MAYBE NOT HAVING

57:56ALL THE SUPPORT THEY NEED.

57:58SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE

58:00EMS KNOWS I'M ADVOCATING FOR

58:02THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND

58:03THE SUPPORTS THEY NEED AND WHEN

58:06THE ONE I BELIEVE POINT $3

58:08MILLION GRANT WAS NOT RENEWED

58:11DURING THE BUDGET SEASON A

58:14PORTION AND THANK YOU TO DANA

58:15FARBER AND THANK YOU FOR

58:16OUTSIDE SOURCES BUT ONLY

58:18100,000 WAS REINSTATED UM 100%

58:23SUPPORTED AN ADVOCATE THAT OUR

58:25FIREFIGHTERS HAVE

58:26CANCER SCREENING OF COURSE.

58:27BUT WHEN YOU HEAR THAT OUR

58:29BOSTON POLICE AND OTHER FIRST

58:30RESPONDERS ARE THEN PAYING FOR

58:32THEIR OWN, THAT PART OF THE

58:34STORY WAS LEFT OFF.

58:36SO I THINK UM, NOW THAT I HAVE

58:38THAT INFORMATION I'LL MAKE SURE

58:40WE'RE ADVOCATING TO MAKE SURE I

58:42DON'T I WILL SAY KNOWLEDGE IS

58:43POWER.

58:44SO NOW WE CAN ADVOCATE TO MAKE

58:45SURE THAT ALL OF OUR FIRST

58:46RESPONDERS HAVE THE NECESSARY

58:47SCREENINGS.

58:49ONE OF THE BENEFITS I LOST WHEN

58:52I SWITCHED FROM BEEPS TO CITY

58:54HALL WAS UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD

58:56DENTAL AND EYE CARE, RIGHT?

58:58THAT WAS A WONDERFUL BENEFIT

58:59AND THAT HELPED ME AND MY

59:01FAMILY, YOU KNOW, IN WONDERFUL

59:04WAYS.

59:05SO EACH UNION FIGHTS AND

59:06ADVOCATES FOR WHAT THEIR

59:08MEMBERS NEED.

59:08BUT WHEN YOU'RE DIGGING INTO

59:10YOUR OWN POCKETS AND ASKING,

59:13YOU KNOW, CREDIT UNIONS AND

59:15NEIGHBORS TO, YOU KNOW, SPONSOR

59:17HOLES AT A GOLF TOURNAMENT AND

59:19THEN THAT'S NOT JUST GOING FOR

59:21BEREAVEMENT OR MAKING SURE

59:22SOMEONE'S WIFE MAYBE YOUR

59:24HUSBAND AFTER A DEATH GETS, YOU

59:27KNOW, SOME MEALS OR SUPPORTS

59:28IT'S GOING TO DIRECT RELATED

59:32HEALTH ISSUES THAT WE GET ON

59:34THE JOB RIGHT.

59:35SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE

59:36CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT.

59:38SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL WORK

59:39WITH YOU AND THE OTHER UNION

59:41LEADERS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE

59:42THOSE NUMBERS CORRECT AND

59:44SUPPORT YOUR MEMBERS.

59:45SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

59:47AND COUNCILOR WEBER I DON'T

59:48HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

59:50I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

59:51ANY TIME WE APPROVE A NEW

59:53BUDGET FOR THE NEW CYCLE THAT

59:55WE GET TO ASK QUESTIONS LIKE

59:57HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE WE DOWN?

59:58WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO?

1:00:00WHEN IS THE NEXT CLASS?

1:00:02SO I KNOW NOW THAT WE HAVE TO

1:00:04MAKE SURE AND KIND OF PUSH THAT

1:00:05THIS NEXT CLASS GOES THROUGH.

1:00:07IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS

1:00:08MONTH GET A DATE, MAKE SURE WE

1:00:11CAN HOLD THEM TO THAT NEW DATE

1:00:13IN OCTOBER AND THAT WE PROMOTE

1:00:15THE MEMBERS RIGHT WITH THE

1:00:16PROMOTION BECOMES MORE PAY AND

1:00:18IT'S AN EXPENSIVE CITY TO LIVE

1:00:19IN AND THOSE MEMBERS DESERVE

1:00:21THAT PAY.

1:00:22SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO

1:00:23ADVOCATING FOR THAT.

1:00:24THANK YOU.

1:00:25OKAY.

1:00:26>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:00:26UH, COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

1:00:28>> I THINK YOU'RE STILL ON

1:00:28HERE.

1:00:29YEP, YEP.

1:00:30THANK YOU BUDDY.

1:00:32THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

1:00:34UM, SO, UH, JUST DOING SOME

1:00:35MATH FROM WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT

1:00:3850,000 YOU FUNDRAISED 60,000

1:00:39COMES OUT OF YOUR OWN COFFERS.

1:00:41SO FOR FOR, UH, MENTAL HEALTH

1:00:43AND OVERALL PHYSICAL WELL-BEING

1:00:45.

1:00:46UM.

1:00:46>> UH, FOR YOUR MEMBERS LIKE IS

1:00:50110,000 ROUGHLY WOULD THAT BE

1:00:52LIKE IF WE WOULD HAVE BUDGET

1:00:53FOR IT?

1:00:53IS THAT WHAT WE WOULD SORT

1:00:55OF BUDGET UH PER YEAR IF THE

1:00:57CITY WOULD HAVE PICK THAT UP

1:00:58BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE A

1:00:59NOMINAL OVERALL I DON'T KNOW

1:01:00MAYBE IF YOU HAVE A BIGGER

1:01:02NUMBER OR IS THAT JUST LIKE

1:01:03THAT'S THE BEST YOU KNOW

1:01:04RAISING 50 AND GIVEN 60.

1:01:07UM WAS SORT OF LIKE YOU JUST

1:01:09WRITE A BAND AID IS AS YOU GO

1:01:12UM AND IT'S PROBABLY A LARGER

1:01:14NUMBER TO YEAH.

1:01:15I WOULD JUST.

1:01:16BUT THANK YOU

1:01:17COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

1:01:18UH NO UH IF IF WE COULD HAVE A

1:01:20GRANT FOR 100 $120,000 A YEAR

1:01:23TOWARDS THE HEALTH SCREENING,

1:01:25THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.

1:01:26YEAH, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE

1:01:27PERFECT.

1:01:27THAT WOULD HELP OUR MEMBERS

1:01:28TREMENDOUSLY.

1:01:30RIGHT OKAY.

1:01:31YEAH.

1:01:31I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE A NOMINAL

1:01:33FEE OR A $4.9 BILLION BUDGET TO

1:01:35MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE

1:01:37TAKING CARE OF THOSE THAT ARE

1:01:38TAKING CARE OF US.

1:01:39SO UM.

1:01:39THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE

1:01:41SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT.

1:01:42UM, AT LEAST WITH MY.

1:01:44>> FELLOW COUNCILORS.

1:01:44HERE UM, IN THE NEXT BUDGET

1:01:45SESSION TO SEE IF WE CAN GET

1:01:47THAT IN THERE.

1:01:48UM.

1:01:48>> OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T

1:01:49THINK I WILL.

1:01:50I TURN MY TIME OVER TO YOU, BUT

1:01:52IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT

1:01:53YOU'D LIKE TO PONTIFICATE UPON,

1:01:55UH, BEFORE STEPPING DOWN, I'LL

1:01:56GIVE YOU THE REST OF THE, UH,

1:01:57MY TIME, PLEASE.

1:01:58THANK YOU.

1:01:59JUST REAL QUICK.

1:02:00AND THIS IS A STAT I BRING UP

1:02:01THAT, UM, THERE'S ALL KINDS

1:02:02OF DIFFERENT STATS ABOUT, UM,

1:02:03FIRST RESPONDERS AND I THANK

1:02:05COUNCILOR MURPHY FOR MENTIONING

1:02:06EMS BECAUSE THEY DEAL WITH

1:02:07HAVING SOME OF THE SAME STUFF

1:02:08THAT WE DEAL WITH BUT AND AND

1:02:10SOME OF THE UH THIS GUY DOCTOR

1:02:11HAMM ROCK WHEN WE STARTED THIS

1:02:12CAMP PROGRAM ABOUT FIVE, MAYBE

1:02:14EIGHT YEARS AGO ACTUALLY HE UH

1:02:16HE HAD MENTIONED ONE OF THE ONE

1:02:18OF THE STATS IT JUST SHOOTS OUT

1:02:19YOU AT YOU AND I'LL JUST GIVE

1:02:20YOU THIS QUICK STAT IS THAT.

1:02:22FOR FIRST RESPONDERS BECAUSE

1:02:23OF THE STRESS LEVELS I MEAN

1:02:25THERE'S DIFFERENT STRESS LEVELS

1:02:26AND DIFFERENT JOBS BUT BECAUSE

1:02:27OF THE ADRENALINE RUSHES

1:02:28BETWEEN GOING TO CALLS YOU

1:02:29COULD HAVE THREE DAYS TO DO

1:02:30NOTHING AT EMS POLICE FIRE AND

1:02:32THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN BOOM YOU

1:02:33GOT THREE CALLS AND YOUR HEART

1:02:34RATE IS GOING UP AND DOWN GOING

1:02:35ON THESE CALLS.

1:02:36SO FOR.

1:02:37US AND.

1:02:37>> IT'S SIMILAR WITH THE EMS

1:02:39AND FIRE I'M NOT SURE THE EXACT

1:02:40BUT FOR POLICE OFFICERS YOU

1:02:41HAVE YOUR FIRST HEART ATTACK AT

1:02:4348 YEARS OLD TYPICALLY IT FOR

1:02:47UH A MEMBER OF THE GENERAL

1:02:48PUBLIC YOUR FIRST HEART ATTACK

1:02:49IS AT 68 YEARS OLD.

1:02:50THAT'S WHY THESE SCANS IT

1:02:51THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY

1:02:52THESE SCANS ARE SO NECESSARY

1:02:54BECAUSE IT LOOKS INTO YOUR, UH,

1:02:56YOU KNOW, 11 PART ULTRASOUND

1:02:58AND THEN, UH, FULL BODY SCAN.

1:03:00SO TELLS YOU WHAT YOU KNOW,

1:03:01WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE GOING ON.

1:03:02AND LIKE I SAID, IT SAVES

1:03:02LIVES.

1:03:03SO I APPRECIATE YOU TALKING

1:03:04ABOUT IT.

1:03:04I KNOW.

1:03:05UM.

1:03:06>> YOU GUYS ALL YOU KNOW, I

1:03:08APPRECIATE IT.

1:03:08THANK YOU.

1:03:11OKAY.

1:03:12>> UH, YEAH.

1:03:13THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:03:14UM, I GUESS JUST A DETECTIVE

1:03:17GRIFFIN.

1:03:18UH, MY QUESTION IS THERE IS

1:03:20THERE ANY MORE GAPS BETWEEN THE

1:03:23CONTRACTS BETWEEN THE PATROL

1:03:26OFFICERS AND THE DETECTIVES?

1:03:28I KNOW SOME OF THE LATTER, BUT

1:03:29THE CONTRACT WE APPROVED IN,

1:03:32UH, IN MAY CLOSED A LOT.

1:03:34BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT

1:03:36SORT OF HANGING OUT THERE THAT

1:03:38,UM.

1:03:39YOU KNOW, YOU'RE.

1:03:40TRYING TO ADDRESS IN.

1:03:41THE IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS?

1:03:44UH, I MEAN THERE'S ALWAYS GAPS

1:03:46SO YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT

1:03:47THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE

1:03:48DETECTIVE AND PATROLMAN TWO YOU

1:03:49.

1:03:50KNOW.

1:03:50>> DIFFERENT JOBS WE ARE CIVIL

1:03:52SERVICE PATROLMAN.

1:03:53BUT, UH, I MEAN, IT'S THERE WAS

1:03:55THERE WAS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE

1:03:56AT ONE POINT THAT PERCENTAGE

1:03:57HAS IT'S SHRUNK A LITTLE BIT

1:03:59LET'S SAY FROM 7 TO 5%.

1:04:01SO IF WE GET BACK UP TO 7%

1:04:03OF WHAT IT WAS BACK YOU KNOW,

1:04:041015 YEARS AGO THAT WOULD BE

1:04:06GREAT.

1:04:06BUT UM.

1:04:09IN TERMS OF WE'RE AT THE SAME

1:04:10UH, SCALES RIGHT NOW FOR UM NOT

1:04:12SCALES BUT WE'RE AT THE SAME

1:04:14YOU KNOW, WE SIGN THE CONTRACT

1:04:15SIMILAR TIME.

1:04:16SO BOTH OUR CONTRACTS EXPIRED

1:04:17THIS PAST UH, JULY 1ST.

1:04:20SO WE'RE.

1:04:20WE'RE LOOKING TO NEGOTIATE

1:04:21RIGHT NOW WITH THE.

1:04:22CITY AND THEN JUST I MEAN,

1:04:24MAYBE YOU ALREADY TALKED ABOUT

1:04:25THIS, BUT A SHORTAGE

1:04:27OF DETECTIVES SPECIFICALLY LIKE

1:04:28WHAT IS THAT WHAT DOES THAT

1:04:30MEAN?

1:04:30UH, FOR THE CITY, YOU KNOW.

1:04:33IT MEANS SOME OF THESE

1:04:34SPECIALIZED UNITS AREN'T

1:04:35GETTING FILLED AND A LOT OF A

1:04:37LOT OF THE DISTRICT UNITS

1:04:38AREN'T GETTING FILLED.

1:04:38MEANING MEANING THAT'S MORE

1:04:40CASELOAD FOR ALL OUR MEMBERS,

1:04:41RIGHT?

1:04:42SO THAT YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO GO

1:04:43PULL MORE VIDEO.

1:04:44YOU HAVE TO YOU'RE DOING MORE

1:04:45SEARCH WARRANTS IF YOU'RE DOING

1:04:47IT THE CASELOADS ARE UH IN SOME

1:04:48STATES SOME DISTRICTS ARE BUSY

1:04:50THAN OTHERS.

1:04:51BUT EVERY DISTRICT NOW IT'S YOU

1:04:52KNOW, WE TALK TO OUR MEMBERS

1:04:54THAT THE THEY HAVE ENORMOUS

1:04:56CASELOADS AND THE WORK IS

1:04:58GETTING MORE UH WITH TECHNOLOGY

1:05:01YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MORE STUFF.

1:05:02THERE'S THERE'S MORE WAYS TO

1:05:03TRACK PEOPLE.

1:05:03THERE'S MORE WAYS TO, YOU KNOW,

1:05:04SOLVE CRIMES AND STUFF LIKE

1:05:05THAT BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT THE

1:05:06TIME IN OBVIOUSLY.

1:05:08SO UH YEAH IT'S.

1:05:09IT'S IT'S TAXING ON IT MEANS

1:05:12YOU CAN'T GO HOME AS OFTEN YOU

1:05:13KNOW YOU'RE WORKING MORE AND

1:05:14MORE AND MORE ALL THE TIME TO

1:05:15TO TO SOLVE THESE CASES AND

1:05:17THEN YOU'RE ALSO GETTING

1:05:18ORDERED INTO DIFFERENT UM YOU

1:05:20KNOW, YOU CAN GET ALL INTO IF

1:05:22YOU'RE IN A DISTRICT YOU GET A

1:05:23LITTLE OR YOU KNOW SELLING

1:05:23THERE'S A SHOW FOR THE LAST

1:05:25HALF OR YOU KNOW, OVERNIGHT

1:05:26SHIFT OR FIRST HALF OR TO

1:05:27MIDNIGHT THEN YOU'RE GETTING

1:05:28ORDERED INTO THAT INTO UNIFORM

1:05:29IF YOU HAVE TO BUT YOU HAVE TO

1:05:31PUT YOUR UH CASELOAD ASIDE FOR

1:05:32THAT FOR THOSE.

1:05:32EIGHT HOURS.

1:05:33>> YEAH.

1:05:34OKAY.

1:05:35>> UH WELL I APPRECIATED IT.

1:05:37THANKS FOR BEING ABLE TO BEING

1:05:39AVAILABLE ADVOCATING FOR YOUR

1:05:41MEMBERS AND, UH.

1:05:42THANKS FOR EVERYTHING.

1:05:43>> YOU DO FOR THE CITY.

1:05:44UH, UM LET'S SEE.

1:05:46SO I THINK, UH, KARISHMA, IS

1:05:48THERE ANYONE ELSE, UH, FOR

1:05:49PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

1:05:51NOW, MR CHAIR?

1:05:53OKAY.

1:05:54>> UM, SO LET'S YOU KNOW, WE'RE

1:05:56GOING TO UH, TRY TO GET ANSWERS

1:05:59TO MY FELLOW COUNCILORS

1:06:01QUESTIONS, UH, AND YOU KNOW, I

1:06:04THAT I HOPEFULLY GET SOME

1:06:05OF THOSE ANSWERS AND BRING THIS

1:06:06UP FOR A VOTE ON WEDNESDAY IF

1:06:08IT TURNS OUT THAT WE NEED SOME

1:06:09MORE TIME TO GET THE ANSWERS.

1:06:10UM, I PLAN.

1:06:12>> TO WAIT.

1:06:12MR CHAIR.

1:06:13CAN I JUMP BACK FOR A QUICK

1:06:14SECOND?

1:06:14SURE, COUNCILOR FLYNN.

1:06:16THANK YOU.

1:06:17>> DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS,

1:06:19UM, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD THE.

1:06:21OPPORTUNITY TO.

1:06:23OFFER AMENDMENTS.

1:06:25WE GOT THAT POWER GRANTED TO

1:06:27US.

1:06:27UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO I OFFERED

1:06:31AN AMENDMENT.

1:06:33TO FUND HEALTH AND WELLNESS

1:06:35PROGRAMS FOR THE BOSTON POLICE

1:06:37DEPARTMENT.

1:06:37I BELIEVE I PUT IN 500 A

1:06:39REQUEST FOR $500,000 THAT WAS

1:06:42THAT WAS VOTED DOWN BY CITY

1:06:45COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.

1:06:46I WANTED TO I WANT TO GET THAT

1:06:48ON THE RECORD.

1:06:49UM I WAS ABLE TO GET SOME

1:06:51FUNDING AND FOR EMS WE THEY

1:06:53SUPPORTED THAT UM THEY VOTED IT

1:06:55DOWN FOR BOSTON FIRE ALSO.

1:06:58BUT I WILL CALL BECAUSE I JUST

1:07:00WANTED TO GET IT ON THE RECORD.

1:07:01OUR COLLEAGUES VOTED DOWN THE

1:07:04THE AMENDMENTS TO ADD MORE

1:07:06MONEY INTO HEALTH AND WELLNESS

1:07:08FOR BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT.

1:07:10THE THE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND

1:07:12BLAME ALSO LIES ON THE CITY

1:07:15COUNCIL A FAILING TO HAVE THE

1:07:17COURAGE TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS

1:07:19RIGHT.

1:07:20UM SO WE CAN WE CAN SAY WE'RE

1:07:22GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR IT AND

1:07:24NEXT YEAR WHICH WE WILL BUT WE

1:07:26HAVE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY

1:07:27TO DO IT LAST YEAR AND WE

1:07:29DECIDED TO NOT DO IT AND WE WE

1:07:31DID NOT PROVIDE THE THE

1:07:33CRITICAL LEADERSHIP THAT WAS

1:07:35NEEDED AT THAT TIME.

1:07:36SO WE WE HEARD A LOT OF BOSTON

1:07:39POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR

1:07:41FAMILIES.

1:07:41IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY

1:07:43COUNCIL TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT

1:07:44OF A BACKBONE AND STAND UP FOR

1:07:46WHAT IS RIGHT.

1:07:47THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

1:07:48OKAY.

1:07:49>> THANK YOU.

1:07:49>> I JUST AS THE CHAIR OF THE

1:07:50WAYS.

1:07:50>> AND MEANS COMMITTEE, YOU.

1:07:51KNOW, WE.

1:07:52>> WORK UH, TOGETHER ON

1:07:53AMENDMENTS AND.

1:07:54>> THIS IS ABOUT YOU.

1:07:55GOT TO BUILD CONSENSUS WITH

1:07:56YOUR COLLEAGUES AND FIND THAT

1:07:58OF COURSE THE AMENDMENTS IT'S

1:08:00A22 SIDED COIN.

1:08:00YOU GOT TO FIND MONEY TO TAKE

1:08:02THE PLACE AGAIN.

1:08:03MR.

1:08:03THE IN THE REGULAR UH.

1:08:05>> WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO

1:08:06GET A THAT'S A REAL MISTER

1:08:07CHAIR.

1:08:08MISTER CHAIR, I THANK YOU VERY

1:08:09I RECOMMENDED YOUR COMMENDED

1:08:11THAT THE MONEY I RECOMMENDED

1:08:12THE MONEY BE TAKEN OUT

1:08:14OF OFFICE.

1:08:15>> AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

1:08:16I COULD AT LEAST PICK UP TO

1:08:17THAT.

1:08:17YES OKAY.

1:08:18YEAH THAT YOU'RE WE YEAH THAT'S

1:08:21THAT'S THAT'S HOW THAT THAT

1:08:22WORKS NOW YOU'VE MADE.

1:08:24>> YOUR COMMENTS.

1:08:25THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:08:25NO NO YOU'RE PASSING THE BUCK,

1:08:27MR CHAIR.

1:08:27OKAY.

1:08:28>> WELL, UH, I.

1:08:30I WOULD.

1:08:31SAY IF YOU WANT.

1:08:32>> THAT AMENDMENT PASSED.

1:08:33PLEASE WORK WITH YOUR

1:08:34COLLEAGUES AND, UH.

1:08:35BUILD CONSENSUS.

1:08:36>> AND.

1:08:37YOU CAN GET THAT AMENDMENT.

1:08:38OKAY.

1:08:39SO THANK.

1:08:39>> YOU VERY MUCH.

1:08:40THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR

1:08:41BEING HERE.

1:08:42THANK YOU TO THE BUDGET

1:08:43DIRECTOR AND DETECTIVE.

1:08:44GRIFFIN FOR.

1:08:45MAKING THE TIME AND.

1:08:46PROVIDING US WITH YOUR, UH,

1:08:48THOUGHTFUL ANSWERS.

1:08:49UH, WITH THAT SAID, UH, THIS

1:08:52HEARING ON DOCKET NUMBERS 1671

1:08:55TO.

1:08:55>> 1674.

1:08:56IS NOW ADJOURNED.

1:08:58NO GAVEL.

1:08:58OKAY.

1:08:59>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:09:00THANK YOU.

1:09:01>> YES.

1:09:17>>