2026-10-06 - Ways and Means Committee
Summary
Live captions from the council's video; names and figures may still contain errors. The hearing was held virtually; the first minutes of the video have no captions. Present with the chair, Benjamin J. Weber: Erin J. Murphy, Edward M. Flynn, Ruthzee Louijeune, John FitzGerald, Miniard Culpepper and others.
- Hearing on Boston Public Schools Union Contract Funding: ten mayoral orders (Dockets 1829 to 1838) moving about $517,000 from the Reserve for Collective Bargaining to the school department for fiscal year 2027 raises for five bargaining units (school police patrolmen, school police superior officers, planning and engineering professionals, plant administrators, and storekeepers and delivery workers).
- The city budget director said the budget set aside a $22 million reserve and the council has already approved two earlier contracts totaling $3.3 million this year; the labor relations director described the one-year agreements as following the 2 percent plus $800 wage pattern, ratified by the unions and the school committee. He asked the committee to report the orders out for the next council meeting.
- Approximate unit sizes given: about 37 planning and engineering staff, 16 plant administrators, 6 storekeepers, roughly 50 school police patrol officers and 19 superior officers. The school safety chief said four patrol vacancies exist after three retirements and one transfer, and that seven vacancies were eliminated in budget cuts.
- Councilors Flynn and Murphy raised questions about the state Inspector General's report on mismanagement in school facilities and procurement; the school department's chief operating officer said the contracts have little direct bearing and that the department is still formulating its response, which is mostly about tightening financial protocols. Flynn also asked why unions were not invited to the hearing, asked about the status of laid-off paraprofessionals (staff said a recall list is nearly exhausted) and asked about the unsigned police-school memorandum of understanding (Police involvement in Boston Public Schools); staff said it has been agreed on the school side and awaits the police department, which raised concerns about the report-writing system. Flynn asked for a copy.
- Councilors Louijeune, FitzGerald, Culpepper and Murphy supported the contracts; one witness for the Boston Policy Institute testified that the contracts raised unanswered questions about the city's fiscal outlook and the Inspector General's findings.
- The chair said a committee vote is planned for the next day and the hearing was adjourned.
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Transcript
These are live captions from the council's video; names and numbers may still contain errors.
Transcript
07:57IN THE DISTRICT SIX CITY
07:59COUNCILOR AND THE CHAIR OF THE
08:01BOSTON CITY COUNCIL ON WAYS AND
08:02MEANS.
08:02TODAY'S OCTOBER 6TH, 2026.
08:05EXACT TIME IS 10:03 A.M..
08:08UH IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER
08:09TWO OF THE ACTS OF 2025
08:11MODIFYING CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS
08:12OF THE OPEN MEETING LAW AND
08:14RELIEVING PUBLIC BODIES
08:16OF CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS
08:17INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENTS THAT
08:19PUBLIC BODIES CONDUCT THEIR
08:21MEETINGS IN A PUBLIC PLACE
08:22THAT'S OPEN AND PHYSICALLY
08:23ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.
08:25THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE
08:26CONDUCTING THIS HEARING
08:27VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.
08:28THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED.
08:30IT'S ALSO BEING LIVE STREAMED
08:32AT BOSTON COUNCIL DASH UH
08:36SORRY BOSTON.GOV/CITY
08:37COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST
08:40ON XFINITY CHANNEL E RCN
08:42CHANNEL 82 AND FILE CHANNEL 964
08:45UH WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT
08:47TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT
08:51IT WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE
08:53RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL
08:55COUNCILORS.
08:55PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN
08:57AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.
08:59INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON
09:00THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED
09:01UP.
09:02THEY WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO
09:04TESTIFY.
09:05IF YOU WISH TO SIGN UP FOR
09:06PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND HAVE NOT
09:08DONE SO, PLEASE EMAIL OUR
09:09CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON CHRIS
09:11MATURE ON THAT CAR IS MARCO U H
09:19A [email protected] FOR THE ZOOM
09:20LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE
09:21ADDED TO THE LIST.
09:23UH THIS HEARING UM IS ABOUT
09:25FUNDING THE NEW CONTRACT
09:27INCREASES FOR SEVERAL GROUPS
09:28OF BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOL
09:29EMPLOYEES.
09:30THE UNIONS REPRESENT SCHOOL
09:32POLICE OFFICERS, SUPERIOR
09:34OFFICE AND SUPERIOR OFFICERS,
09:36PLANNING AND ENGINEERING
09:37PROFESSIONALS, PLAN
09:40ADMINISTRATORS AND SCHOOL
09:41STOREKEEPERS AND DELIVERY
09:43WORKERS.
09:43THE CITY'S ASKED TO MOVE UH,
09:46APPROXIMATELY $517,000 FROM THE
09:49COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RESERVE
09:51SO THE DISTRICT CAN COVER THE
09:52RAISES AND SALARY INCREASES
09:54AGREED TO IN THE CONTRACT FOR
09:55FISCAL YEAR 27.
09:57THERE'S TEN DOCKETS.
09:58I'LL NOW READ THOSE INTO THE
10:01RECORD.
10:02UH, JUST GIVE ME A SECOND HERE.
10:08OKAY.
10:09DOCKET NUMBER 1829 MESSAGE IN
10:12ORDER TO REDUCE THE FISCAL YEAR
10:1427 APPROPRIATION FOR THE
10:15RESERVE FOR COLLECTIVE
10:17BARGAINING BY $268,887 UH, TO
10:22PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE BOSTON
10:24PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR THE FISCAL
10:26YEAR 27 INCREASES CONTAINED
10:28WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE
10:29BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
10:31THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND
10:33THE BOSTON SCHOOL POLICE
10:35PATROLMEN'S ASSOCIATION DOCKET
10:37NUMBER 1830 MESSAGE IN ORDER
10:40FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL
10:41APPROPRIATION ORDER UH FOR THE
10:44BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS
10:45DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 27,
10:47IN THE AMOUNT OF $286,887 TO
10:52COVER THE FISCAL YEAR 27 COST
10:54ITEMS CONTAINED WITHIN THE
10:55COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT
10:57BETWEEN THE BOSTON SCHOOL
10:58COMMITTEE AND THE BOSTON SCHOOL
11:00POLICE PATROLMEN'S ASSOCIATION
11:02THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE
11:04SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH
11:07AUGUST 31ST, 2027.
11:08THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE
11:10CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE
11:12INCREASE OF 2% IN OCTOBER OF
11:1524, 25 AND 26 AND A FLAT DOLLAR
11:19AMOUNT INCREASE OF $250, $900
11:22AND $800 TO BE ADDED TO ANNUAL
11:25SALARIES IN JANUARY OF 2025,
11:292026 AND 2027 RESPECTIVELY.
11:32DOCKET NUMBER 1831 MESSAGE IN
11:35ORDER TO REDUCE THE FISCAL YEAR
11:3827 APPROPRIATION FOR THE
11:39RESERVE UH FOR COLLECTIVE
11:41BARGAINING BY $111,802 UH TO TO
11:48PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE
11:50BOSTON'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR THE
11:51FISCAL YEAR 27 INCREASES
11:54CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE
11:55BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
11:56THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND
11:58THE BOSTON SCHOOL POLICE
11:59SUPERIOR OFFICERS FEDERATION
12:02DOCKET NUMBER 1832 MESSAGE IN
12:04ORDER FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL
12:06APPROPRIATION FOR THE BOSTON
12:08PUBLIC SCHOOLS DEPARTMENT FOR
12:09FISCAL YEAR 27, IN THE AMOUNT
12:14OF $111,802 TO COVER THE FISCAL
12:15YEAR 27 COST ITEMS CONTAINED
12:18WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE
12:19BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
12:20THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND
12:21THE BOSTON BOSTON SCHOOL POLICE
12:24SUPERIOR OFFICERS FEDERATION.
12:26THE TERMS IN THE CONTRACT ARE
12:29JULY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH JUNE
12:3330TH 2027.
12:33THE MAJOR PROVISION OF THE
12:35CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE
12:37INCREASE OF 2% IN OCTOBER OF
12:402024, 2025 AND 2026 AND A FLAT
12:44DOLLAR AMOUNT INCREASE OF $250
12:47,$900 AND $800 TO BE ADDED TO
12:49ANNUAL SALARIES OF THE JANUARY
12:52IN JANUARY OF 2025, 2026 AND
12:552027 RESPECTIVELY.
12:57DOCKET NUMBER 1833 MESSAGE IN
13:00ORDER TO REDUCE THE FISCAL YEAR
13:0327 APPROPRIATION FOR THE
13:05RESERVE FOR COLLECTIVE
13:06BARGAINING BY 800 UH SORRY BY
13:12$85,879 TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR
13:14THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR
13:15THE FISCAL YEAR 27 INCREASES
13:17CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE
13:19BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
13:20THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND
13:23SEIU LOCAL 888 PROFESSIONAL
13:25EMPLOYEES CHAPTER, DEPARTMENT
13:27OF PLANNING AND ENGINEERING
13:29DOCKET NUMBER 1834 UH MESSAGE
13:32IN ORDER FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL
13:34APPROPRIATION ORDER FOR THE
13:36BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS
13:36DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 27,
13:38IN THE AMOUNT OF $85,879 TO
13:43COVER THE FY 27 COST ITEMS
13:46CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE
13:47BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
13:48THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND
13:50SEIU LOCAL 88 PROFESSIONAL
13:52EMPLOYEES CHAPTER TWO
13:54DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND
13:55ENGINEERING.
13:55THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE
13:58SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH
14:02OCTOBER 31ST 2027.
14:03THE MAJOR PROVISION FOR THAT
14:04CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE
14:06INCREASE OF 2% IN SEPTEMBER
14:08OF 26 AND A FLAT DOLLAR AMOUNT
14:11OF $800 ADDED TO ANNUAL
14:13SALARIES IN JANUARY OF 20 2027
14:16DOCKET NUMBER 1835 MESSAGE IN
14:19ORDER TO REDUCE THE FY 27
14:21APPROPRIATION FOR THE RESERVE
14:22FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BY
14:27$40,365 TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR
14:28THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR
14:30THE FY 27 INCREASES CONTAINED
14:33WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE
14:34BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
14:35THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND
14:37BOSTON SCHOOL DEPARTMENT PLANT
14:39ADMINISTRATORS ASSOCIATION DUG
14:41A NUMBER 1836 MESSAGE IN ORDER
14:44FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL
14:45APPROPRIATION ORDER FOR THE
14:47BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS
14:48DEPARTMENT FOR FY 27, IN THE
14:50AMOUNT OF $40,365 TO COVER THE
14:54FY 27 COST ITEMS CONTAINED
14:57WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE
14:58BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
14:59THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND
15:00THE BOSTON SCHOOL DEPARTMENT
15:02PLANT ADMINISTRATORS
15:04ASSOCIATION.
15:04THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE
15:06SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH
15:09OCTOBER 31ST, 2027.
15:11THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE
15:13CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE
15:14INCREASE OF 2% IN SEPTEMBER
15:17OF 20 2026 AND A FLAT DOLLAR
15:19AMOUNT OF $800 TO BE ADDED TO
15:21ANNUAL SALARIES IN JANUARY
15:24OF 2027.
15:25DOCKET NUMBER 18 UH 37 MESSAGE
15:29IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE FY 27
15:32APPROPRIATION FOR THE RESERVE
15:33FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BY
15:37$10,320 UH, TO PROVIDE FUNDING
15:39FOR THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS
15:40FOR THE FY 27 INCREASES
15:43CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE
15:44BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
15:46THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND
15:48AFL COUNCIL 39 LOCAL 281 FOR
15:53STOREKEEPERS AND STORES
15:54DELIVERY MEN UNION AND FINALLY
15:57UH DOCKET NUMBER 1838 MESSAGE
16:00IN ORDER FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL
16:01APPROPRIATION ORDER FOR THE
16:03BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS
16:04DEPARTMENT FOR FY 27, IN THE
16:06AMOUNT OF $10,320 TO COVER THE
16:10FY 27 COST ITEMS CONTAINED
16:12WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE
16:13BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
16:15THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND
16:18AFL-CIO COUNCIL 93 LOCAL 2814
16:23STOREKEEPERS AND STORES
16:24DELIVERY MEN'S UNION.
16:25THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE
16:27SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH
16:31AUGUST 31ST 2027.
16:32THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE
16:34CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE
16:35INCREASE OF 2% IN SEPTEMBER
16:38OF 2026 AND A FLAT DOLLAR
16:39AMOUNT OF $800 TO BE ADDED TO
16:42ANNUAL SALARIES IN JANUARY
16:452027.
16:45THESE MATTERS WERE WE'RE
16:47SPONSORED BY THE MAYOR MICHELLE
16:49WU AND REFERRED TO THE
16:50COMMITTEE ON SEPTEMBER 30TH
16:532026 WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THE
16:55CONTRACTS RELATED TO PLANT
16:57ADMINISTRATORS, ASSOCIATION
16:58PLANNING AND ENGINEERING AND
17:00STOREKEEPERS UH FIRST AND ALSO
17:02THE SCRIPT SAYS UH UH UH TODAY
17:05I'M JOINED BY MY UH COLLEAGUES
17:07IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL
17:09COUNCILOR MURPHY,
17:09COUNCILOR FLYNN,
17:11COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE AND THEN
17:13COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.
17:14UM, WE'RE JOINED BY A PANEL UH
17:17,WITH UH WE'VE GOT UH, BUDGET
17:20DIRECTOR JIM WILLIAMSON, UH,
17:22DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE
17:23OF LABOR RELATIONS FOR BOSTON
17:25PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
17:25UH, JEREMIAH JEREMIAH HAS SOME
17:28UH WE'VE GOT UH, CHIEF
17:30EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE
17:32OFFICE OF SAFETY SERVICES FROM
17:33BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
17:35UH, ISRAEL IS RAUL RAUL.
17:38SORRY, IZZY UH MARRERO.
17:40UM, AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER
17:42FOR THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS
17:43BRIAN FORD.
17:44UH, UH, BRIAN HAS A HARD STOP
17:48AT 1130.
17:48SO IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR
17:51BRIAN, UH, WHAT?
17:52YOU KNOW, PLEASE, UH, UP FRONT
17:55AND IF YOU HAVE A CALLED ON YOU
17:58AND DO SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS
17:59FOR BRIAN BEFORE HE LEAVES, LET
18:00ME KNOW AND I CAN CALL MY
18:02COLLEAGUES OUT OF ORDER.
18:03UM, LET'S SEE HERE.
18:05UH, SO, UM, I KIND OF PASS THIS
18:11OFF TO OUR PANELISTS.
18:13UM, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR I DON'T
18:16KNOW, UH UH, DIRECTOR WILLIAMS
18:19AND I'LL I'LL START WITH YOU
18:21AND YOU CAN PASSWORD FOR YOU ON
18:23IT.
18:23WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
18:25UH, CHAIR WEBER AND OTHER
18:26MEMBERS OF THE BOSTON CITY
18:27COUNCIL.
18:28UH, AS YOU SAID, MY NAME IS
18:29JOHN WILLIAMSON.
18:30I'M THE BUDGET DIRECTOR HERE
18:31FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON.
18:33UM, MYSELF AND MY COLLEAGUES
18:34FROM THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS
18:37APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
18:38PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE
18:39NEW CONTRACTS, UM, IN THEIR
18:42APPLICATIONS FOR THE CITY'S
18:43BUDGET.
18:43UH, I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE TEN
18:46APPROPRIATION ORDERS BEFORE YOU
18:48AND THE IMPACT TO THE BUDGET
18:50AND TO MAKE A FORMAL REQUEST
18:52OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, TO, UH,
18:54REPORT IT OUT AND HAVE APPROVED
18:56AT THE NEXT UH, CITY
18:57COUNCIL MEETING.
18:58UH, I'M ALSO YOU KNOW, I'M
19:00JOINED BY JEREMIAH HANSON FROM
19:02UH, HIS OFFICE OF LABOR TO UM,
19:05ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
19:08CONTRACT AND OTHER OPERATIONAL
19:09STAFF.
19:10UH, UM IS HE HERE?
19:12UM AND, UM, BRIAN FORWARD TO
19:14ASK ABOUT OPERATIONAL UM, UH,
19:16ACTIVITIES FOR THOSE STAFF
19:19COVER BUTTONS UNIONS UM, YOU
19:21KNOW AND AS YOU REMEMBER, THE
19:22UH, 427 BUDGET FINALIZED IN
19:24JUNE INCLUDED THE 2020 $22
19:27MILLION UM UH COLLECTIVE
19:29PARKING RESERVE AN AGGREGATE UH
19:31USE UH THE CITY COUNCIL HAS
19:32APPROVED UH TWO PREVIOUS CBAS
19:35UH IN THIS FISCAL YEAR UM FOR
19:39$3.3 MILLION AND THE TOTAL FOR
19:41THESE TEN UH FOR THESE FIVE UM
19:43UNITS, UM, UM, ACROSS UM IN THE
19:48TEN APPROPRIATION ORDERS IS UH
19:51$517,000.
19:51UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, I WILL I
19:54DON'T KNOW IF UH, JEREMIAH OR
19:55OTHERS WANT TO SAY ANYTHING
19:58BEFORE WE START THE HEARING.
20:00JUST TO THANKS JIM AND CHAIR
20:02WEBER AND COUNCILORS, THANK YOU
20:04FOR HAVING US TODAY.
20:05UH, JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE
20:06BIT OF CONTEXT FOR THESE FIRST
20:08THREE CONTRACTS WE'RE FOCUSING
20:10ON.
20:11UH, THEY ARE VERY
20:13STRAIGHTFORWARD ONE YEAR
20:14AGREEMENT, UH, FOLLOWING WHAT
20:16WE'VE SEEN OF THE 15 UH, WAGE
20:18PATTERN FOR COLLECTIVE
20:20BARGAINING AGREEMENTS AND FOR
20:21THE OFTEN COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
20:22AGREEMENTS TO MAKE UH, TO MY
20:24KNOWLEDGE CITY SIDE.
20:25UM, SO 2% INCREASE, UH, GENERAL
20:29WAGE INCREASES PLUS THE $800 IN
20:33THAT IS SPREAD EVENLY ACROSS
20:34THE EMPLOYEES PAYCHECKS, UH,
20:36AND WILL BE ADDED TO THAT BASE
20:38WAGES MOVING FORWARD.
20:39UM, SO AGAIN, REALLY
20:41STRAIGHTFORWARD UH, IF I WANT
20:43TO TAKE MY TIME TO UH, THANK
20:45THE BARGAINING TEAM FOR THESE
20:47UNIONS, UH, THAT WERE ABLE TO
20:49WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH US TO
20:50GET UH, AGREEMENTS DONE IN A
20:53FAIRLY QUICK AND EFFICIENT
20:54MANNER.
20:55SO, UH, WITH THAT AND JUST SO
21:00WE'RE ALL CLEAR THE, UH, THAT
21:02THEY WERE AGREED TO BY THE
21:03UNIONS, UH, RATIFIED BY THE
21:05MEMBERSHIP AND THEY HAVE UH ALL
21:08OF THESE AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN
21:09RATIFIED BY THE SCHOOL
21:10COMMITTEE AS WELL.
21:12SO WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY
21:14QUESTIONS FOR US, HAPPY TO
21:15ANSWER.
21:18OKAY.
21:19>> UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
21:22UM, SORRY.
21:24UH LET'S SEE UH, WE'VE BEEN
21:25JOINED ALSO BY
21:27COUNCILOR CULPEPER.
21:30UM UH, SO I I'D LIKE TO HAND IT
21:32OFF TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR
21:34QUESTIONS.
21:35UH, I'M JUST UM.
21:39OKAY.
21:40AND WE'RE JOINED BY
21:41COUNCILOR EARL.
21:42UM, YEAH, I GUESS IT'S OKAY.
21:46COUNCILOR MURPHY.
21:47UH, LET'S.
21:49LET'S DO, UH, FIVE MINUTES AND
21:52THEN, UH, IF YOU HAVE A SECOND
21:54ROUND OF QUESTIONS, WE'LL COME
21:55BACK.
22:05COUNCILOR MURPHY.
22:15OKAY.
22:16>> UH.
22:21>> COUNCILOR.
22:21UH, FLYNN.
22:23THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN.
22:24MR CHAIR, BEFORE I BEGIN, UM,
22:28DID WE INVITE ANY.
22:30OF THE UNION LEADERSHIP.
22:32TO ATTEND AND MAYBE GIVE THEIR
22:36THEIR OPINION, THEIR SIDE
22:37OF THE NEGOTIATION?
22:39THESE ARE COLLECTIVE
22:40BARGAINING.
22:40DID WE GIVE THEM THE
22:42OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE?
22:44UH, I MEAN, I THINK THE USUAL
22:46PROCEDURE IS WE DON'T INVITE
22:48THE, YOU KNOW, UNIONS ON
22:50INCREASES IN CBAS WHERE THEY'VE
22:52BEEN NEGOTIATED.
22:53I UNDERSTAND WE'VE HAD THIS
22:54DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DETECTIVES
22:57UNION.
22:57UH.
22:58I'M ASKING ABOUT TODAY,
23:00MR CHAIR.
23:00TODAY TODAY JUST.
23:01A SIMPLE QUESTION, MR CHAIR.
23:03WELL, OKAY.
23:04THE SIMPLE CORRECT ANSWER IS NO
23:06,NOT INVITED.
23:07OKAY.
23:08>> UM MY RECOMMENDATION I DO
23:10LIKE TO HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES.
23:12UM, ESPECIALLY ON A UNION
23:14CONTRACT.
23:14I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
23:15HEAR FROM, UH, PEOPLE ON THE
23:18OTHER SIDE OF THE CONTRACT THAT
23:19ARE NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH
23:22BECAUSE IT'S NEGOTIATED IN GOOD
23:24FAITH BETWEEN THE UNION AND
23:26THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY REASON
23:28I'M, UM, RESPECTFULLY ASKING
23:30THAT QUESTION, MR CHAIR.
23:31IT'S A RESPECTFUL QUESTION AND
23:33,UH, SO NOT INVITED.
23:35WHY DON'T YOU GO FORWARD WITH
23:37YOUR FIVE MINUTES?
23:38LET ME TALK TO CHARISMA KIND
23:39OF OFFLINE AND, UH, SEE IF WE
23:41CAN BRING ANYONE IN.
23:43I MEAN, I YOU KNOW, THEY DID
23:44WANT US TO VOTE ON THIS LAST
23:46WEEK I I SAID NO, WE SHOULD
23:48HAVE A HEARING ON THIS, UH, TO
23:51ALLOW MY COLLEAGUES TO ANSWER
23:52THESE QUESTIONS.
23:52I STARTED YOUR TIME,
23:54COUNCILOR FRIENDS, BUT.
23:55BUT THAT'S OKAY.
23:55THAT'S UH.
23:56SO LET LET LET ME JUST LET
23:58ME STRATEGIZE WITH CENTRAL
24:00STAFF HERE AND THEN, UH, YOU
24:02KNOW, COME BACK.
24:03WHY DON'T YOU START YOUR FIVE
24:05MINUTES?
24:05WE'VE GOT A.
24:06A CAPABLE PANEL HERE AND, UH,
24:08OKAY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS.
24:10WELL, LET ME GO LET ME GO
24:12DIRECTLY TO ANYONE FROM THE
24:14TEAM WE WE'VE RECENTLY READ UM,
24:18THE DEVASTATING REPORT OF THE
24:20STATE COME OUT STATE CAME OUT.
24:22I GUESS IT WAS AN INSPECTOR
24:23GENERAL REPORT, UM,
24:25HIGHLIGHTING.
24:28MISMANAGEMENT AT CERTAIN
24:30CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS.
24:31MAYBE IT WAS PUBLIC FACILITIES
24:33UM, DOES THIS CONTRACT HAVE ANY
24:37IMPACT AT ALL ON THE INSPECTOR
24:41GENERAL REPORT?
24:42YEAH I SAID RELATES TO ARE WE
24:45DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY NOW
24:47THAN WE WERE IN THE PAST BASED
24:51ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE OIG
24:53REPORT AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD?
24:59SO WHEN YOU SAY THIS CONTRACT,
25:00CAN YOU SPECIFY WHICH CONTRACT
25:02YOU'RE REFERRING TO ANYONE?
25:05UM, IN ANY CONTRACT EMAILS WITH
25:07THE OH THE OFFICER INSPECTOR
25:09GENERAL HAD A REPORT
25:10HIGHLIGHTING UM UM
25:13MISMANAGEMENT.
25:14YEAH.
25:14UM THROUGHOUT I WAS WONDERING
25:17IF IN ANY OF THESE CONTRACTS
25:19THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON HAS
25:23ANY IMPACT AT ALL ON THE OIG
25:26REPORT AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD
25:28OPERATION WISE?
25:30UM, AND WHAT IMPACT THE OIG
25:33REPORT HAD ON.
25:36ON THE ON ON MANAGEMENT, ON
25:39OPERATIONS ON FUNCTIONS OF BPA
25:41CENTER DID IT HAVE ANY IMPACT
25:43ON THIS CONTRACT ON ANY
25:44OF THESE CONTRACTS AS WELL?
25:47BRIAN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU.
25:49SOME OF.
25:50>> THOSE SOME.
25:51OF THOSE.
25:51ISSUES HAPPENED IN AND AROUND
25:54THE OFFICE.
25:55DO YOU WORK ON BRIAN ANY ANY
25:57ANY FEEDBACK YOU MIGHT HAVE?
26:02UM GOOD MORNING COUNSELOR.
26:05UM.
26:06I WOULD SAY AS IT RELATES TO
26:09THE UH, NEW COLLECTIVE
26:11BARGAINING COLLECTIVE
26:12BARGAINING AGREEMENTS THAT THIS
26:14WILL HAVE LITTLE TO NO IMPACT
26:17ON ACTIONS TAKEN AS A RESULT
26:19OF THE IG'S REPORT.
26:22HOWEVER, MOST OF OUR ACTIONS IN
26:25RESPONSE TO THE IG'S REPORT ARE
26:26TIED IN TIGHTENING UP FINANCIAL
26:29PROTOCOLS AT WHICH TIME WE ARE
26:31STILL FORMULATING OUR OFFICIAL
26:35REVIEW AND RESPONSE.
26:41IN CALIFORNIA AS HAVING WORK
26:44THIS OUT WITH OUR UNION FOR THE
26:46LARGE EGO REPORT DIDN'T HAVE
26:48ANY IMPACT ON THE NEGOTIATION
26:50FOR PARTIES.
26:51UM THEN.
26:52DOES THIS HAVE ANY IMPACT?
26:54DOES IT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON HOW
26:56WE MOVE FORWARD AS A AS A
26:58SCHOOL DEPARTMENT IN MAKING ANY
27:01CHANGES TO IMPROVE UM OPERATION
27:04MANAGEMENT?
27:09IN TERMS OF THE COLLECTIVE
27:11BARGAINING?
27:11I GUESS UH, I GUESS THAT THE
27:13TEAM TO BE DETERMINED MAYBE BUT
27:16UM BRIAN IF YOU IF YOU HAVE
27:18MORE ON THAT.
27:20I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS
27:21YES.
27:22WHILE WE CANNOT POINT A FULL
27:23PICTURE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE
27:24YET AS WE CONTINUE TO DO OUR
27:26REVIEW ASSESSMENT AND RESPOND
27:30TO THE FINDINGS OF THE IG
27:31REPORT.
27:35BRIAN, IN A NUTSHELL WHAT
27:36HAPPENED IN THE OIG REPORT?
27:45I I DON'T THINK I'M FULLY
27:47EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THAT
27:49QUESTION AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME
27:51BECAUSE OF THE UH, MANY MOVING
27:53PIECES AS WE WORK TO FULLY
27:56UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF THAT
28:00REPORT AND WHAT DIDN'T DID NOT
28:02HAPPEN WHILE WE CONTINUE TO DO
28:04INVESTIGATIVE MEASURES ON OUR
28:05END TO GET DOWN TO BRASS TACKS.
28:10AND I COULD I MAKE A.
28:12CONSTRUCTIVE RECOMMENDATION TO
28:14BP IF THERE IS A CONTRACT THAT
28:17ENTERS INTO WHAT THEY VENDOR
28:21UM, BP HAS TO PAY THAT VENDOR
28:23DIRECTLY.
28:24THEY CAN'T USE ANOTHER VENDOR.
28:27TO PAY THAT OTHER VENDOR OTHER
28:30VENDOR AND THEN THAT OTHER
28:31VENDOR WILL PAY THE PERSON THAT
28:33SHOULD BE GETTING THE MONEY.
28:35UM I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
28:37I HIGHLIGHTED THAT I DO THAT I
28:41DO THINK IT'S A PROBLEM AND I
28:44DO I DO WANT TO GET ANSWERS TO
28:46THOSE QUESTIONS BEFORE I VOTE
28:48ON THESE CONTRACTS.
28:50I I'M GOING TO VOTE ON THEM BUT
28:52I STILL NEED TO DO MY DUE
28:53DILIGENCE AS A CITY
28:55COUNCILOR TO ENSURE EVERY
28:57NICKEL OF TAXPAYER MONEY IS
28:59ACCOUNTED FOR.
29:00I KNOW I'M A STICKLER AND I
29:02KNOW THAT MIGHT NOT GO OVER
29:04WELL, BUT RESIDENTS EXPECT
29:07ME TO ASK DIFFICULT QUESTIONS
29:08THAT OTHERS MIGHT NOT ASK.
29:12UM THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
29:16OKAY.
29:17>> THANK THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
29:19UH.
29:20>> I KNOW COUNCILOR MURPHY.
29:22YOU'RE UP NEXT.
29:24A COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE HAD A HAD
29:26TO I WAS GOING TO CALL ON HER
29:27OUT OF ORDER.
29:29UH, JUST SHE HAD HAD TO LEAVE.
29:31I DON'T KNOW,
29:33COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.
29:34I'M HERE, COUNCILMEMBER, BUT
29:35FEEL FOR YOU COUNCILMEMBER
29:36COUNCIL.
29:37WE CAN SPEAK.
29:37OKAY, I CAN WAIT.
29:38TOTALLY.
29:38>> OKAY.
29:39THANK YOU.
29:40OKAY.
29:40>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
29:41THANK YOU.
29:42COUNCILOR MURPHY.
29:42YOUR FIVE MINUTES.
29:44THANK YOU.
29:45>> UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING
29:47HERE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO
29:51VOTING IN SUPPORT AND
29:53ADVOCATING OUR EMPLOYEES.
29:56UM UH.
29:57THERE ARE MANY THAT AREN'T OUR
29:59TEACHERS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED
30:00HERE.
30:01THANK YOU IZZY AND ALL OF THE
30:02OTHER REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE
30:04WORK YOU DO IN OUR SCHOOLS.
30:06IT'S HARD WORK.
30:07UM, COUNCILOR FLYNN DID BRING
30:09UP SOME HARD QUESTIONS.
30:11I KNOW THAT I'LL BE ASKING
30:13THOSE.
30:13I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MEETING I
30:16IS THE PLACE FOR IT, BUT I AM
30:18HAPPY THAT THAT WAS AT LEAST
30:20BROUGHT OUT BECAUSE ANY DOLLAR
30:22WE CAN SAVE IF WE'RE WASTING
30:23ANY MONEY ESPECIALLY AFTER
30:26SEEING HUNDREDS OF POSITIONS
30:28CUT KNOWING WHAT THAT IMPACT
30:31MAKES ON THE EXPERIENCE AND
30:35EDUCATION FOR OUR STUDENTS.
30:37SO NEEDING TO MAKE SURE THAT
30:39WHO HAS THE BIGGEST BUDGET IN
30:41THE CITY THAT WE'RE SPENDING
30:44THE MONEY PROPERLY AND NOT
30:47WASTING ANY MONEY AT ALL.
30:50SO LOOKING FORWARD TO
30:52SUPPORTING AND VOTING IN FAVOR
30:53OF THESE CONTRACTS BUT
30:55CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION IS
30:57IMPORTANT ALSO.
30:58SO THANK YOU.
30:59NO DIRECT QUESTIONS.
31:02THANK YOU COUNCIL.
31:03OKAY THANK YOU,
31:05COUNCILOR MURPHY UH
31:07COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.
31:07THANK YOU MR CHAIR.
31:09I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR
31:10BEING HERE.
31:12UM I WANT TO THANK THE UNIONS
31:14AND, UH, THE ADMINISTRATION FOR
31:16COMING TO THIS AGREEMENT WHICH
31:18IS BEFORE US, UM, AND LOOKING
31:20FORWARD TO VOTING ON IT.
31:21JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
31:22FOR EXAMPLE, IT SAYS THERE ARE
31:23INCREASES IN OTHER PLACES THERE
31:24ARE DECREASES IN THE AMOUNT.
31:26CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN WHY THERE
31:27ARE INCREASES AND DECREASES?
31:29YES COUNCIL I BELIEVE I CAN DO
31:31THAT.
31:32SO THE DECREASES ARE UM UM
31:35REMOVING THE MONEY FROM THE
31:36RESERVE IN THE POSITIVE NUMBERS
31:38ARE ADDING IT TO THE BOSTON
31:39PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUDGET.
31:41OKAY.
31:42>> UH AND WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO
31:43SEE NEXT YEAR OR HOW LONG WILL
31:46THIS COVER?
31:48WELL YEAH THEY HAVE, UH,
31:49DIFFERENT TERMS BUT THIS THIS,
31:51UM, FUNDING ARRANGEMENT IS TO
31:53COVER FISCAL YEAR UH, FOR 27 IN
31:55GERMANY THAT WE HAVE OUR VIEW
31:57ON THAT TOO AND CONTRACTORS I
31:58THINK THAT THERE HAVE 127 AS
32:01WELL.
32:02YEAH BUT SOME OF THEM HAVE UH
32:03SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DATES AND
32:04THEY END EITHER JUNE 30TH OR UH
32:08AUGUST 31ST.
32:08MOST OF THEM ARE AUGUST 31ST
32:10OF THE UPCOMING YEAR.
32:10UH, AND WE WILL UM, START THE
32:13PROCESS OF UM, UH, NEGOTIATING
32:15OUR NEXT ROUND OF COLLECTIVE
32:17BARGAINING AGREEMENTS WITH
32:18THIS, UH, THESE GROUPS AND OUR
32:21OTHER UNIONS.
32:23UM, AT SOME POINT THIS YEAR.
32:25OKAY.
32:26>> WONDERFUL.
32:26THANK YOU.
32:27I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THE
32:28PARTIES CAME TO THE TABLE AND
32:29MADE AN AGREEMENT AND, UH, AS
32:31USUAL, GRATEFUL TO HAVE YOU ALL
32:33HERE GIVING US A SUMMARY
32:34OF WHAT THAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE
32:35THANK YOU.
32:35THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
32:38OKAY.
32:39>> THANK YOU,
32:40COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.
32:40UH, COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.
32:47THANK YOU CHAIR.
32:48UH MUCH APPRECIATED.
32:50UH, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE
32:52REALLY IS HOW MANY HOW MANY
32:54MEMBERS ARE IN, UH, REPRESENTED
32:55IN THIS INCREASE?
32:57UH, I DID SOME HOMEWORK AND IT
32:59LOOKED TO BE ABOUT LIKE 73
33:00PEOPLE.
33:01I THINK THERE'S LIKE 55 SAFETY
33:02OFFICERS AND THEN A COUPLE OF,
33:04UH, SUPERIORS UM, UH, A COUPLE
33:08OF ADMIN AND IT LOOKS LIKE I
33:09MEAN THIS IS AT ABOUT RIGHT 73
33:11FOLKS.
33:13>> SO COUNCIL I HAVE AN OUT
33:15OF THE MOP.
33:16UH, TO BE HONEST.
33:18IT'S I THINK.
33:19PLANNING ENGINEERING RIGHT NOW
33:20I WORRIED ABOUT 37.
33:21MEMBERS, UH, PLAN
33:23ADMINISTRATORS.
33:23I THINK WE'RE AT 16, UH,
33:26STOREKEEPERS WE'RE AT.
33:27SIX MEMBERS CURRENTLY.
33:29UM, SO THOSE ARE THE
33:30FACILITIES.
33:30GROUPS THEN I THINK WITH OUR.
33:33PATROL.
33:33>> UH, 57 OFFICERS.
33:36WE'RE AT UH.
33:37ROUGHLY 50.
33:38AND ROUGHLY 19 SUPERIOR.
33:41OFFICERS I BELIEVE.
33:42OKAY.
33:43ALL RIGHT.
33:44>> SO I WOULD JUST TRY TO DO
33:45THE MATH IN MY HEAD BECAUSE THE
33:46THE THE DOLLAR INCREASES OF TWO
33:495908 HUNDRED SLIGHTLY BELOW
33:512000 GOING BACK OVER THE PAST
33:53TWO YEARS IN THE UPCOMING YEAR
33:55IT'S ROUGHLY A $2,000 RAISE
33:56OVER THREE YEARS GIVEN ONE MORE
33:58YEAR TO GO HERE UM AND WITH THE
34:01NUMBER OF.
34:01FOLKS THAT WE'RE TALKING.
34:02>> ABOUT IT SEEMS TO BE UH A
34:03NOMINAL FEE OVERALL.
34:04SO I'M GLAD FOLKS WERE ABLE TO
34:06UM, GET THIS CONTRACT HAMMERED
34:08OUT AND UH, IT LOOKS LIKE UM
34:12YEAH.
34:13WE'RE GOOD I DON'T REALLY I
34:14JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT
34:16THAT MATH WAS CORRECT IN MY
34:17HEAD OF OF ROUGHLY, YOU KNOW,
34:19$200,000 OVER THREE YEARS,
34:21WHICH I THINK IS IS UH, A MINOR
34:23VERY MODEST INCREASE AND
34:24ALLOWED.
34:24SO.
34:25UM.
34:26>> I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY
34:27FURTHER QUESTIONS.
34:28CHAIR.
34:28UH, I APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK
34:29FORWARD TO, UH, WEDNESDAY.
34:31THANK YOU.
34:31OKAY.
34:32>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
34:33UM, OKAY.
34:35I THINK COUNCILOR CULPEPPER,
34:37YOU'RE UP NEXT.
34:38GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR.
34:40YEAH.
34:40>> HI.
34:41SO WE'RE DOING FIVE MINUTES.
34:42UH.
34:43I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE FIVE
34:45MINUTES.
34:45I KNOW TO YOUR SURPRISE AND
34:47EVERYONE ELSE'S SURPRISE SHOCK.
34:49I DON'T NEED FIVE MINUTES FOR
34:50THIS.
34:51UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK BUT, UH,
34:55COUNCIL MURPHY, WE WILL TALK
34:58ABOUT OUR OR REPORT AT A LATER
35:02TIME.
35:02JUST GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY
35:04COULD COME TO AN AGREEMENT.
35:06UM, WHETHER YOU COULD BRING IT
35:08BEFORE SO SOON AS POSSIBLE SO
35:11THAT WE CAN GET IT APPROVED.
35:13I WANT TO GO BACK TO, UH,
35:14MISSING SOME REAL QUICK, UM,
35:19AND, UH, I SEE YOU CAME TO THIS
35:24MEETING, UH, WITH YOUR SUNDAY
35:27BEST AND, UH.
35:33MR CHAIR, CAN WE CAN WE JUST
35:34PUT, UH.
35:35YEAH.
35:36MR MASON ON JEREMIAH.
35:39YEAH, I'VE GONE FOR.
35:41OH MY GOODNESS, I LOVE THAT
35:43SUIT.
35:44I'VE GOT ONE JUST LIKE I SAY.
35:46YOU WORE YOUR SUNDAYS BEST THIS
35:48MORNING.
35:49UH, TO BRING YOUR BEST TO THE
35:52COUNCIL.
35:52I WANT TO APPROVE THIS AND
35:54HOPEFULLY WE CAN APPROVE IT
35:55WEDNESDAY.
35:56I THINK IT'S BEEN SITTING AND
35:59TALKED AND DISCUSSED AND
36:00NEGOTIATED AND SO LET'S GET IT
36:03APPROVED.
36:03I'M WITH YOU 100%.
36:05I WANT TO GET IT DONE AND UH,
36:08YOU'RE COMING TO US IN GRAND
36:10STYLE AND UH, LOOK, HOPEFULLY
36:13WEDNESDAY WE CAN GET IT DONE.
36:15THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
36:17I RESERVE MY FOUR MINUTES AND
36:2030S TO SAY NEXT TIME I NEED
36:24TIME.
36:25I'M SORRY YOU CUT OUT THERE AT
36:27THE END, BUT, UH.
36:28YEAH.
36:28SO GREAT TO SEE.
36:29YOU AT.
36:30>> THE CULPEPER.
36:31UH, OKAY.
36:32THANK YOU.
36:33AND I APPRECIATE THE COMPLIMENT
36:36YOU'RE WELCOME.
36:37YOU'RE WELCOME.
36:39OKAY.
36:39>> UH, OKAY.
36:41COUNCILOR WORRELL.
36:42UH.
36:43>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK.
36:44>> YOU TO THE PANEL FOR BEING
36:45HERE.
36:46UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO
36:47SUPPORTING THIS CONTRACT.
36:49UH.
36:50>> NO NO QUESTIONS.
36:51AND IT IS A NICE, NICE SUIT.
36:56THANK YOU.
36:56COUNCILOR.
36:57>> UH UH, OKAY.
37:00>> I ASSUME ANY ANYONE WHO
37:01HASN'T SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE
37:02SUIT DOESN'T LIKE IT.
37:03UH, SO, UH, BUT, UM UH IT'S
37:07GOOD.
37:07UH, OKAY.
37:08UH, I GUESS JUST JUST ONE
37:11QUESTION.
37:11YOU KNOW, WE WE WE HAVE.
37:12>> THAT HAVE UH.
37:14OKAY.
37:15>> OKAY.
37:15WELL, THERE YOU GO.
37:16UH, I'M SURE I THINK.
37:17EVERYONE LIKES TO SEE, UM, BUT
37:20UH UH, I JUST I HAD A QUESTION
37:23ABOUT STAFFING.
37:24UM, I I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY
37:26OTHER COUNCILORS AND WE CAN GO
37:27YOU KNOW.
37:28>> COUNCILOR FLYNN HAD, UH, A
37:29FOLLOW UP OR SOMETHING, BUT, UM
37:32,UH, IN TERMS OF STAFFING FOR
37:34THE FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS THE
37:37SORT OF UH, SECURITY LIKE ARE
37:41WE WHAT'S ARE WE, UM, FILLING
37:44ALL THE POSITIONS?
37:46UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA
37:48BECAUSE YEAH, I KNOW JUST THE,
37:50UH, BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT WE
37:52WE HAVE LIKE SORT OF A, UH, NOW
37:55PERPETUAL UNDERSTAFFING.
37:57UM.
38:01I DON'T HAVE.
38:02ANY YOU'RE UH MUTED.
38:04>> IF.
38:04YOU'RE SPEAKING.
38:06JIM IS MUTED CAN YOU HEAR
38:09ME NO.
38:11UM OH EXCUSE ME COUNCILOR UH I
38:13DIDN'T THINK THAT QUESTION WAS
38:14POSED TO ME IN TERMS OF UH THE
38:16STAFFING LEVELS AND THE UM DPS
38:18PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER I WOULD
38:20DEFER TO TO IZZY ON THAT.
38:22I'M NOT UM, ACQUAINTED WITH
38:24WHERE THEY ARE OTHER THAN WHAT
38:26WHAT THE STAFFING LEVEL IS UM,
38:28AT THE TIME OF THIS UH UM SO
38:32YOU KNOW, WITH THAT UH, TERM I
38:33SPOKE TO WHICH IS 50 POLICE
38:35OFFICERS AND UH, 19 SUPERIOR
38:38OFFICERS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF
38:39THAT'S A FULL COMPLEMENT OR A
38:42SNAPSHOT IN TIME OF WHERE THEY
38:43WERE I.
38:45APOLOGIZE I CAN ADD TO THAT.
38:47UM.
38:47SOME REASON MY CAMERA STOPPED
38:50WORKING.
38:50>> TECHNOLOGY NOWADAYS.
38:51UM.
38:53>> UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THE
38:55LAST.
38:55UH, ROUNDS.
38:57OF BUDGET CUTS AND ALL THAT WE
38:58ACTUALLY ELIMINATED SEVEN
39:00VACANCIES THAT I WAS ACTIVELY
39:01HIRING FOR.
39:02UM.
39:03>> SO IT'S IT'S REALLY SO THAT
39:06WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE A BARE
39:08MINIMUM OF SERVICES TO THE
39:09BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
39:10COULD I USE MORE BODIES?
39:12ABSOLUTELY.
39:12BUT RIGHT NOW THIS IS JUST TO
39:14KEEP THE BODIES THAT WE HAVE.
39:17OKAY.
39:18>> UM AND.
39:20OKAY.
39:21>> YOU KNOW.
39:22OH, CHAIR I'M SORRY WE WERE
39:24ASKING ABOUT THE NUMBER.
39:25>> OF CURRENT VACANCIES.
39:26I KNOW THERE IS.
39:27>> A POSTING UP.
39:28UH, ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR
39:29CANDIDATES.
39:30BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY.
39:32ACTUAL VACANCIES.
39:32>> WE SO THERE ARE CURRENTLY
39:35THERE ARE FOUR VACANCIES RIGHT
39:37NOW I'VE HAD THREE OFFICERS
39:40RETIRE.
39:40AND ONE LEAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER
39:42JOB WITHIN DPS.
39:44SO THAT'S WHY I'M HIRING.
39:46UH, CURRENTLY THE FOUR
39:47VACANCIES RIGHT NOW.
39:49OKAY.
39:51>> UM OKAY.
39:52UH AND ARE THOSE, UH, SUPERIOR
39:55OR.
39:56UH.
39:57NO, THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL
39:58PATROL FORCE PATROL.
40:00OKAY.
40:01>>, OKAY.
40:03UM WELL, UH THANK YOU.
40:05UH, I YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO
40:09I MEAN, I GUESS COUNCILOR FLYNN
40:10,DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP
40:11QUESTION?
40:11YEAH.
40:12>> THANK YOU.
40:15I I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM,
40:17IZZY MOREIRA TWO FOR THE
40:19OUTSTANDING WORK HE HAS DONE,
40:22UH, THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER ON
40:23COMMUNITY POLICING, WORKING
40:25CLOSELY WITH UM, MANY
40:27NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE CITY.
40:28GREAT RESPECT FOR HIM.
40:31UM.
40:34ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS MAYBE
40:36IT'S TO JEREMIAH.
40:37MAYBE IT'S TO JIM THE
40:40PARAPROFESSIONALS THAT WERE UM
40:44,CUT FROM THE BUDGET UM,
40:48MOSTLY MOSTLY WOMEN OF COLOR I
40:50BELIEVE THERE ARE ABOUT SEVEN
40:51UM SEVERAL HUNDRED OF THEM.
40:54UM.
40:55WHAT IS WHAT IS THEIR STATUS?
40:56THEIR JOBS WERE ELIMINATED.
40:58WHAT IS THEIR STATUS?
41:01DID MANY.
41:03>> OF THEM GET COME BACK.
41:05TO BE POSTED?
41:07DO THEY FIND NEW JOBS?
41:08WERE THEY SUPPORTED?
41:11UM WHERE ARE WE WITH UM THOSE
41:14DEDICATED PROFESSIONAL WORKERS
41:16THAT DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB
41:18PARAPROFESSIONALS CRITICAL.
41:20TO EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN.
41:21WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THEM.
41:25>> SO I GUESS THE.
41:28PARAPROFESSIONALS ARE, UM,
41:30MEMBERS OF THE BTU AND THEY'RE
41:31PART OF.
41:32THEIR OWN.
41:33COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT
41:33THAT ISN'T.
41:34HERE TODAY.
41:35>> BUT I DO HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE
41:38OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
41:39IN OUR OUTREACH.
41:40UH, WITH REGARDS TO, UM,
41:43PARAPROFESSIONAL.
41:44HIRING AND I BELIEVE THE
41:47OFFICE.
41:47IS WORKING THROUGH.
41:49A FULL.
41:50UH.
41:51>> RECALL LIST, UH, AND.
41:53OFFERING POSITIONS TO ANY
41:55PARAPROFESSIONALS WHO MAY HAVE
41:56BEEN IMPACTED BY CUTS UH, LAST
41:58SCHOOL YEAR.
41:59TO OFFER THEM SOME OF THE
42:01VACANCIES.
42:01UH, THEY WERE STILL.
42:03FILLING RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE
42:04WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH THE WHOLE
42:06UH.
42:08LIST THAT WOULD BE.
42:09ELIGIBLE FOR.
42:09A RECALL, UM, FOR REHIRE THIS
42:12YEAR.
42:12BUT THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER
42:13QUESTION FOR OUR, UH, STAFFING
42:15FOLKS WHO ARE.
42:17WORKING ON.
42:18YEAH, I RESPECT THAT, JEREMIAH
42:21>> AND THANK YOU.
42:22BUT I.
42:22>> IT'S DIFFICULT TO REACH
42:23SOME.
42:23>> OF.
42:24THOSE PEOPLE.
42:24UM, THAT'S WHY I TAKE THE
42:26OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE QUESTION
42:28NOW, BUT I, I DO HAVE A
42:30RESPONSIBILITY TO ADVOCATE.
42:31>> FOR.
42:32THOSE WOMEN, UH, MOSTLY WOMEN
42:34OF COLOR THAT WERE LET GO AND
42:37PARAPROFESSIONALS PLAY A
42:38CRITICAL ROLE IN EDUCATING OUR
42:41CHILDREN.
42:41I SEE THEM I SEE THEM EVERY
42:42DAY.
42:43THEY THEY HELP KIDS, UH, THEY
42:46HELP MANAGE THE CLASSROOM.
42:47UH, THEY THEY THEY SUPPORT OUR
42:49STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES.
42:51UH, THEY.
42:52>> TAKE CHILDREN TO THE.
42:53BATHROOM AND HELP THEM WASH
42:54AND, UM AND STILL DO AN
42:57OUTSTANDING JOB AND I I DON'T
42:59LIKE TO SEE THEM BE, UM,
43:02TERMINATED FROM THEIR POSITION.
43:03THEY DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY
43:05AND I DO THINK WE HAVE A A
43:08MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO SUPPORT
43:09THEM.
43:10UM, IT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE
43:12WHAT THIS UNION BUT IT'S IT'S
43:14WHAT THE PEOPLE THAT, UH,
43:16DECISION MAKING.
43:17DECISION MAKERS HERE AT AT UM
43:20OKAY, SO MY SECOND QUESTION.
43:24IS THE.
43:25MEMORANDUM OF.
43:26UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE
43:26BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
43:28THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOL
43:29DEPARTMENT.
43:30WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT?
43:31THAT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR A
43:33WHILE.
43:33THAT'S I'M SURE THAT'S BEEN
43:35SIGNED RIGHT.
43:40AND CHIEF, THAT'S I GUESS
43:43OUTSIDE OF MY JURISDICTION IN
43:45TERMS OF THE YOU'RE TALKING
43:46COUNSELOR YOU'RE.
43:47TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN THE
43:48BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
43:49AND BPF NOT INVOLVING ANY
43:51OF THE UNITS HERE.
43:52YEAH THAT'S CORRECT.
43:53THAT'S CORRECT.
43:56YEAH.
43:57>> THE MOU HAS BEEN AGREED UPON
44:01UH A LITTLE HISTORY THAT WAS ON
44:02TWO OCCASIONS DPD AGREED TO THE
44:05MOU SIGNED OFF ON IT SENT IT TO
44:07THE SCHOOL COMMITTEE I MEAN TO
44:09TO BP'S EPS DID SOME TWEAK AND
44:11SENT IT BACK TO BPD.
44:13MOST RECENTLY WE SIGNED OFF ON
44:17UH LAST SUMMER SUMMER OF 2025
44:21UH WE SIGNED OFF AND SENT IT TO
44:23UH BPD UH WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY
44:27UH UM I DON'T BELIEVE I'VE
44:29GOTTEN ANY NO NOTIFICATION THAT
44:31THEY SIGNED IT ON THEIR OWN.
44:32I KNOW THERE'S A LOT
44:34OF CONCERNS REGARDING THE
44:35CURRENT REPORT WRITING SYSTEM
44:37THAT WE HAVE, AND I THINK THAT
44:39MIGHT BE THE HICCUP.
44:42HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THAT
44:43ALTHOUGH THE MOU HAS NOT BEEN
44:45SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES, WE HAVE
44:47BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN BASICALLY
44:49SHARING.
44:50INFORMATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH
44:52THE MOU THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN
44:54RIGHT NOW.
44:55SO WHILE IT HASN'T BEEN SIGNED
44:56WE WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING
44:59TOGETHER.
45:01MR CHAIR MAY I.
45:02REQUEST A COPY OF THE UNSIGNED
45:05MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING?
45:08UH.
45:09>> YOU CERTAINLY REQUESTED AND
45:11WE'LL WE'LL LOOK FOR YOU KNOW,
45:13WE'LL EITHER GET IT OR GET AN
45:15ANSWER WHY THEY'RE NOT
45:16PRODUCING IT BUT UH YEAH I
45:17IT'S.
45:18WHAT WOULD THAT BE A PUBLIC
45:19DOCUMENT, MR.
45:20CHAIRMAN.
45:21I'M NOT SURE IF AN UNSIGNED MOU
45:23THAT WAS BEING NEGOTIATED WOULD
45:25BE PUBLIC, BUT UH I WILL
45:27CERTAINLY ASK FOR IT.
45:29YEAH, IT MIGHT IT MIGHT BE.
45:30LIKE GOING ON MISTER CHAIR A
45:32COUPLE OF YEARS NOW FOR UM THIS
45:35UNSIGNED MOU AT SOME POINT YOU
45:39KNOW WE THE SIGN AND IF WE
45:41DON'T SIGN IT BUT UM JIM, ARE
45:44YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS ISSUE?
45:48SORRY.
45:49>> UH, NO, I'M NOT THAT
45:50FAMILIAR WITH THIS UM, UH,
45:52SITUATION.
45:54OR I'M I'M VERY FAMILIAR.
45:55>> WITH IT.
45:56>> I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A
45:56COPY OF THIS MOU FOR A LONG
45:58PERIOD OF TIME, BUT, UM.
46:01WELL, THAT'S MY REQUEST,
46:02MISTER.
46:03OKAY.
46:03CAN I.
46:04>> GET THE MOU BEFORE WE, UH,
46:06UNSIGNED MOU BEFORE WE VOTE ON
46:08THIS ON WEDNESDAY, PLEASE?
46:10OKAY.
46:10>> NOTED.
46:11AND WE'LL WE'LL ASK TODAY AND
46:12THAT'S A THAT'S A.
46:13THAT'S A SIMPLE REQUEST SO OKAY
46:15THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT A HARD
46:17REQUEST MISTER CHAIR THAT'S A
46:19THAT'S DUE DILIGENCE AND
46:20TRANSPARENCY.
46:21OKAY OKAY WELL THANK THANK YOU
46:24VERY MUCH COUNCILOR FLYNN.
46:26UH UH WE DO HAVE PUBLIC
46:28TESTIMONY.
46:29UH, I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT, UH,
46:32GREG MAYNARD ON THE LINE.
46:34UH, MR MAYNARD?
46:35YEAH.
46:36IF YOU CAN HEAR.
46:36>> US.
46:37YOU GOT TWO MINUTES.
46:48HELLO.
46:49>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
46:51UM.
46:51>> THANK YOU.
46:52TWO MINUTES.
46:53GREAT.
46:54>> UH, HELLO.
46:54>> MY NAME.
46:55>> IS GREGORY MAYNARD AND I'M
46:56TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF THE
46:57BOSTON POLICY INSTITUTE.
46:58UM.
46:59>> THE CONTRACTS BEFORE THE
47:00WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE TODAY
47:02ARE IMPORTANT FOR TWO REASONS.
47:04THEY HAVE REVEALED NEW CONCERNS
47:06ABOUT THE CITY'S FISCAL CRISIS.
47:08AND SECOND, THESE CONTRACTS PUT
47:10CITY HALL'S CLAIMS ABOUT
47:12ACTIONS ON THE ISSUE ISSUES
47:14IDENTIFIED BY THE OIG TO THE
47:15TEST.
47:16SO FIRST, WHEN THESE CONTRACTS
47:18WERE PRESENTED TO THE SCHOOL
47:19COMMITTEE BACK IN JULY, BHP'S
47:22LABOR RELATIONS COUNCILOR MIKE
47:24RYAN MADE A DISTRESSING CLAIM
47:26SAYING AND I QUOTE ALL THE
47:28PARTIES HAVE AGREED TO PUSH ANY
47:30SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES OUT UNTIL
47:31NEXT YEAR WHEN THE DISTRICT MAY
47:33HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE
47:35CITY'S FINANCIAL OUTLOOK IS AND
47:37QUOTE, RYAN'S TESTIMONY APPEARS
47:40TO BE THE FIRST AND SO FAR ONLY
47:42TIME THAT A CITY OFFICIAL HAS
47:45EXPRESSED A SPECIFIC CONCERN
47:47ABOUT BOSTON'S FISCAL CONDITION
47:49SINCE THE FY 27 BUDGET WAS
47:51PASSED.
47:52RYAN'S TESTIMONY RAISES A
47:54NUMBER OF IMPORTANT QUESTIONS
47:56THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED IN
47:57THIS HEARING LIKE WHY THE CITY
48:00EXPECTS THAT IT WILL BE IN A
48:01BETTER POSITION TO NEGOTIATE
48:02LONG TERM CONTRACTS IN A YEAR
48:04AND HOW MANY OTHER CONTRACTS
48:06WERE AFFECTED BY THIS FISCAL
48:08CONCERN?
48:09THE SECOND REASON THESE
48:11CONTRACTS ARE IMPORTANT IS THAT
48:12THREE OF THE FIVE UH CONTRACTS
48:14ARE FOR UNIONS INVOLVED IN THE
48:16ISSUES FLAGGED BY THE RECENT
48:17OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
48:19REPORT, WHICH FOUND WIDESPREAD
48:21MISMANAGEMENT.
48:22>> AND FRAUD.
48:23AT DPS.
48:24THESE UNIONS ARE SEIU LOCAL 888
48:28PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEES CHAPTER
48:29DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND.
48:30ENGINEERING UH, THE BOSTON
48:32SCHOOL DEPARTMENT PLANT
48:34ADMINISTRATORS ASSOCIATION AND
48:36THE AFL-CIO COUNCIL 39 LOCAL
48:392814 STOREKEEPERS AND STORES
48:42DELIVERYMEN UNION.
48:43WHEN THE OIG REPORT CAME OUT,
48:45BHP'S CLAIMED THAT THEY WERE
48:47ALREADY AWARE OF AND IN THE
48:48PROCESS OF ADDRESSING THE
48:49ISSUES IT REVEALED.
48:51SAYING THIS, THE DISTRICT HAS
48:53QUOTE IMPLEMENTED A NUMBER
48:55OF BUSINESS REFORMS TO
48:57STREAMLINE PAYMENT AND
48:58CONTRACTING SYSTEMS, REMOVED
49:00INDIVIDUALS AND HIRED NEW
49:02LEADERS INTO KEY PROCUREMENT
49:03ROLES AND SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED
49:05THE USE OF SOLE SOURCE
49:07CONTRACTS AND QUOTE TODAY WE
49:09HAVE HEARD SOMETHING VERY
49:11DIFFERENT FROM THE DISTRICT
49:12STATEMENT BACK IN JULY, CHIEF
49:15OPERATING OFFICER FORD SAYS
49:16THAT THE DISTRICT IS STILL
49:17SORTING THROUGH THE OIG REPORT
49:19AND IS STILL FORMULATING A
49:21RESPONSE.
49:22THE OIG REPORT CALLS FOR
49:23SWEEPING REFORMS THAT WOULD
49:25AFFECT ALL THREE OF THOSE.
49:27UNIONS CITY HALL AND BHP'S
49:29OFFICIALS WHO TESTIFIED TODAY
49:31SHOULD BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT
49:33HOW ADDRESSING THE ISSUES IN
49:34THE OIG REPORT INFORMED THIS
49:36CONTRACT AND HOW THE CHANGES
49:38ALREADY MADE ARE GOING TO
49:40INFORM FUTURE CONTRACTS.
49:42THE FACT THAT NONE OF THIS HAS
49:44BEEN TALKED ABOUT IS REALLY
49:46DISTRESSING AND I THINK IT
49:47SHOULD BOTHER ALL THE
49:50COUNCILORS ON THIS HEARING.
49:51THANK YOU SO MUCH.
49:53OKAY.
49:54>> THANK YOU.
49:57UH OKAY.
49:57UH LET'S.
49:58SEE WITH THAT SAID I DON'T
50:01GERSHMAN NO ONE ELSE ON FOR
50:03PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
50:04AND MR CHAIR OKAY.
50:07UH, WELL, THE PLAN IS TO BRING
50:09THIS UP FOR A VOTE TOMORROW.
50:11UM, UH, WE'LL LOOK TO TRY TO
50:14GET THAT MOU UM, AND, UH, YOU
50:18KNOW, ANSWER ANY OTHER
50:20QUESTIONS, PLEASE.
50:21COUNCILORS REACH OUT TO MY
50:22OFFICE OR CENTRAL.
50:23UH, BUT UH, WITH THAT SAID, I
50:25JUST WANT TO THANK THE
50:26PANELISTS FOR BEING HERE FOR MY
50:27COLLEAGUES FOR ATTENDING.
50:29UH, AND UH, THIS HEARING ON
50:31DOCKET NUMBERS 1829321838 IS
50:35NOW ADJOURNED.
50:36THANK YOU.
50:37THANK YOU COUNCILORS APPRECIATE
50:39THAT.