2026-09-29 - Housing and Community Development Committee

00:58REDEVELOPMENT.

00:59>> TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 29TH,

01:012026 AND THE EXACT TIME IS

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02:03TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET

02:04NUMBER 0695.

02:07ORDER FOR A HEARING ON THE

02:09STATUS OF THE IMPLEMENTATION

02:11OF THE CITY OF BOSTON

02:12ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.

02:14THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY

02:17COUNCILORS BRIAN MORRELL.

02:18MANY ARE TO COLE PEPPER AND

02:20JULIA MEJIA.

02:22IT WAS REFERRED TO THE

02:23COMMITTEE ON APRIL 1ST 2026.

02:27TODAY I'M JOINED BY MY

02:29COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL.

02:32COUNCILOR FLYNN.

02:33COUNCILOR MURPHY

02:35COUNCIL WORRELL

02:36COUNCILOR BREADON AND

02:37COUNCILOR MEJIA.

02:42AT THIS TIME.

02:43I'M GOING TO GO DIRECTLY TO

02:46INTRODUCTIONS OF THE FIRST

02:47PANEL AND THEN I WILL ALLOW MY

02:51COLLEAGUES OPENING STATEMENTS

02:52AND THEN WE CAN GO INTO Q&A.

02:54UM, OKAY, LET'S START OFF WITH

02:56MR LINCOLN AND THEN WE CAN WORK

02:58DOWN THE LINE IF YOU PLEASE

02:59STATE YOUR NAME AND WHICH

03:01ORGANIZATION YOU ARE

03:03REPRESENTING AND THEN WE WILL

03:04START WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

03:06SURE.

03:06UH GOOD MORNING.

03:06MY NAME.

03:07>> IS LINCOLN AND I'M A BOSTON

03:09TENANT COALITION AND THE

03:10COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE

03:11FOR AFFIRMATIVELY FOR THEM FOR

03:12HOUSING.

03:13THANK YOU.

03:14>> UH.

03:15JAMES DANIELS.

03:16PROFESSOR EMERITUS AT TUFTS

03:17UNIVERSITY AND A MEMBER OF THE

03:19COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

03:21I'M NADEEN COHEN.

03:22I'M A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY

03:25ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE

03:26MONITORING COMMITTEE AND A LONG

03:28TIME FAIR HOUSING ATTORNEY AND

03:31ADVOCATE.

03:31HOW ARE YOU DOING?

03:32OUR MONTE WHITE.

03:33EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT RECLAIM

03:34ROXBURY, ALSO A MEMBER OF THE

03:36COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE

03:37AND THE UH, MONITOR TO ME.

03:38THANK YOU.

03:39YEAH.

03:43OKAY.

03:44>> UM, AND AT THIS TIME I JUST

03:45WANT TO GIVE THE SPONSOR

03:47OF THIS HEARING COUNCIL ROWE AN

03:48OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO GIVE A

03:49BRIEF OPENING REMARKS BEFORE

03:51THE PRESENTATION.

03:52UH THANK YOU CHAIR.

03:53THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES.

03:55>> THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS.

03:56UH, FOR ALL YOUR WORK IN THIS

03:57SPACE AND ALSO TO THE, UH,

03:59ADVOCATES, UH, THAT ARE SEATED

04:01UM, RIGHT BEHIND UH, THE GROUP

04:04OF ADVOCATES.

04:05UM.

04:05I KNOW.

04:06>> WE'VE HAD SEVERAL HEARINGS

04:07ON THIS TOPIC.

04:07UH, MANY REQUESTS FOR

04:08INFORMATION WHICH SHOULD TELL

04:10US HOW CRUCIAL THE WORK OF FAIR

04:12HOUSING IS TO ALL OF US IN THIS

04:13ROOM AND TO ALL OUR RESIDENTS.

04:15UH, SO I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF

04:16BECAUSE WE HAVE A GROUP

04:17OF ADVOCATES RIGHT IN FRONT

04:18OF US AND COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO

04:20JOINED US HERE TODAY WITH A LOT

04:21OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO

04:22SHARE.

04:23SO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU

04:25FOR YOUR WORK.

04:25LOOK FORWARD TO DIVING AND

04:26DIVING INTO THE CONVERSATION.

04:28I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT

04:30TO STACY, UH, MY POLICY

04:32DIRECTOR WHO'S BEEN WORKING

04:33WITH UH, OUR PANELISTS AND OUR

04:35COMMUNITY LEADERS, UM, AROUND

04:36FAIR HOUSING AND PULLING THIS,

04:38UH, HEARING TOGETHER.

04:40SO BIG SHOUT OUT TO STACY.

04:41THANK YOU.

04:42THANK YOU, COUNCILOR WORRELL.

04:44JUST ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE

04:45THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY

04:46COUNCILOR WEBER AND NOW AND

04:48ALSO FOR THE AUDIENCE.

04:50FIRST WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM

04:51AN AMAZING COMMUNITY PANEL ON

04:52ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO.

04:53AND THEN SECOND PANEL WILL

04:55CONSIST OF THE AMAZING CITY

04:56TEAM AS WELL.

04:57SO STAY TUNED FOR THAT.

04:59OKAY.

05:00>> IT WAS YOURS.

05:02THANK YOU.

05:03GOOD MORNING.

05:04UM FOLKS.

05:04>> UH I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE

05:05FOR BEING HERE.

05:06I AM GOING TO START THE PANEL

05:07BY GIVING A BRIEF HISTORY.

05:08OF THE, UH, THE CAC.

05:10SO, UM.

05:12YOU KNOW THE CAC BEGAN.

05:15IN 20.

05:15>> IN 2016.

05:16AND AND THE WORK I'M GOING TO

05:17TALK ABOUT REALLY CONTINUED

05:18THROUGH UM, 2022 AND ADOPTED.

05:21THE UM ASSESSMENT OF FAIR

05:22HOUSING.

05:24SO UH.

05:252015 UM THERE'S A UH FH ABOUT A

05:28RULE.

05:29WHICH REALLY.

05:29CODIFIED SOME OF THE UM, UH,

05:31FAIR HOUSING IN TERMS OF UM.

05:33HAVING A DISTINCT ASSESSMENT

05:34OF FAIR HOUSING AND SOME REAL

05:35TOOLS AROUND HOW.

05:36TO HOW TO ACTUALLY UM, MAKE.

05:38UP FOR SOME REAL TOOLS.

05:39INTO UM HOW.

05:40CITIES ACTUALLY DETERMINED.

05:42AND ASSESSED.

05:44THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE

05:45WORK.

05:45>> TO FURTHER FAIR HOUSING.

05:48SO UM.

05:48>> IN 2016.

05:49MAYOR WALSH UH.

05:50ASSEMBLED A.

05:51A GROUP OF COMMUNITY ADVOCATES

05:54TO.

05:54>> HELP.

05:54THE CITY, UH.

05:55WORK ON THE DRAFTING, UM AND

05:57ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.

05:58AND SO, UH, ORAL REALLY WAS TO

06:00REPRESENT THE CITY AND HELP

06:02THE.

06:02CITY IN THE DRAFT.

06:04UM.

06:04>> THIS.

06:05BODY EVENTUALLY.

06:05BECAME THE BODY YOU SEE TODAY,

06:07WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY

06:08COMMITTEE.

06:08>> FOR AFFIRMATIVELY FOR THE

06:09FAIR HOUSING.

06:11SO THIS IS A THIS REALLY WAS A.

06:12CLASSIC EXAMPLE.

06:13OF OF A CITY COMING INTO

06:14PARTNERSHIP.

06:15THE THE CITY.

06:16COMPONENT UM CONSISTED.

06:17>> OF UH.

06:18UM SHEILA DILLON FROM THEN THE

06:20AND AND UM MAYOR'S OFFICE

06:21OF HOUSING.

06:23UM OFFICE OF.

06:24FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY.

06:26UH BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY AND

06:27BOSTON PUBLIC HEALTH

06:28COMMISSION.

06:28I THINK LATER ON IN THE PROCESS

06:30OTHER.

06:30OTHER UM DEPARTMENTS.

06:31JOINED IN.

06:32>> BUT THOSE WERE THE INITIAL

06:33INITIAL TEAMS.

06:33THAT REALLY FORMED.

06:35UH THE THE INITIATIVE.

06:37TO DRAFT AND.

06:38THE CAC WAS AND CONTINUES TO BE

06:41AN ANCHORED.

06:41BY BOSTON TALENT COALITION.

06:42WHICH IS LED BY.

06:43EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KATHY BROWN

06:45.

06:45THIS THIS CAC ALSO.

06:47INCLUDES OR HAS INCLUDED

06:48ROXBURY NEIGHBOR COUNCIL,

06:51CHARLES HAMILTON.

06:51HOUSTON INSTITUTE OF RACE AND

06:54JUSTICE.

06:54LED BY DAVID HARRIS OF HARVARD

06:56UNIVERSITY, GREATER BOSTON

06:57LEGAL SERVICES ALTERNATIVES FOR

06:59COMMUNITY.

06:59>> AND ENVIRONMENT TO RECLAIM

07:00ROXBURY HIGHER GROUND ON THE

07:01FAMILY.

07:02LAWYERS COMMITTEE.

07:03UH, IF YOU'RE IN THE CENTER

07:05OF GREATER BOSTON.

07:05THEY DIDN'T COIN A.

07:07MERIDA OF BOSTON LEGAL SERVICES

07:08AND PROFESSOR JAMES UH JENNINGS

07:10UH EMERITUS PROFESSOR UH MERIDA

07:13STUFF UH.

07:15TUFTS UNIVERSITY.

07:16SO PART OF THE ENGAGEMENT.

07:18WHAT WE.

07:19DID WAS.

07:19>> WE WANTED TO.

07:20ENSURE THAT THE APPROACH WAS

07:22INFORMED BY PEOPLE.

07:23UM, IMPACTED.

07:26BY THE.

07:26STRUGGLES AND CHALLENGES OF OF

07:27UH OF UM A FAIR HOUSING.

07:30SO IN THAT.

07:30EFFORT UM THROUGH.

07:32BOSTON TALENT COALITION WE

07:33ORGANIZED 14.

07:35UH.

07:35>> COMMITTEE MEETINGS WITH 35

07:37OTHER UH CBOS AND COMMUNITY

07:38PARTNERS TO.

07:40REALLY GET.

07:40INPUT AND FEEDBACK.

07:41FROM COMMUNITIES RELATIVE TO

07:42WHAT WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCES AND

07:43EXPERIENCES WERE.

07:44AROUND A FAIR HOUSING.

07:46UM, SO.

07:47>> THERE'S 14 MEETINGS.

07:48WE HAD ABOUT 500 ATTENDEES.

07:50UM.

07:51THE THE FORMAT WAS.

07:53DESIGNED AROUND UH.

07:54A SURVEY THAT.

07:55REALLY KIND OF TEASED OUT.

07:56>> SOME OF THE FAIR HOUSING

07:57CONCERNS.

07:57AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO

07:59TALK THROUGH WHAT WAS GOING ON.

08:00SO WE HAD THOSE SURVEYS.

08:01,500 SURVEYS THAT UM.

08:02BOTH THE.

08:03>> BOSTON UH HOUSING AUTHORITY

08:05ALSO.

08:05>> FROM THEIR.

08:06CONSTITUENTS UM GENERATED TWO.

08:07UH 2000 SURVEYS.

08:09SO UH WE WERE ABLE TO

08:11TRANSCRIBE.

08:12THE INFORMATION FROM THE

08:13SURVEYS.

08:14AND THAT DATA UM, INFORMED.

08:18THE THE A AT.

08:19>> THE PAGE AND WHAT I MEAN BY

08:20THAT THAT THAT INFORMED THE F

08:22H.

08:22IS THAT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT

08:24FOR US THAT.

08:25THE POLICIES THAT.

08:27CAME OUT.

08:27AT THE PACE.

08:28>> WAS REALLY DRIVEN BY PEOPLE

08:30.

08:30MOST IMPACTED BY IT AND ALSO

08:32WANTED TO KIND OF RECOGNIZE

08:33PROFESSOR JAMES.

08:34HIS RIGHT HERE WHO WAS.

08:35INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING THE

08:36CITY CRAFT AND DRAFT THAT UH

08:38THAT.

08:38THAT A F.

08:40H AND UM THE.

08:42>> REASON THAT WAS PARTICULARLY

08:43IMPORTANT IS THAT JAMES REALLY.

08:44FOCUSED ON AND PRIORITIZING.

08:46THIS COMMUNITY.

08:47COMMUNITY GENERATED DATA.

08:48SO AND THAT'S A REALLY.

08:50CRITICAL ASPECT.

08:50OF THE PAGE.

08:52SO UM I ALSO WANT TO WANT TO

08:54RECOGNIZE NAMES UH CANDY

08:55CARDENAS PASS FROM.

08:57UH BTC.

08:58BOSTON TALENT COALITION.

08:59WHO DID ALL THE TRANSCRIBING

09:02OF 2500 UM SURVEYS.

09:03>> IT'S A LOT.

09:04>> OF WORK.

09:04UH, SO UM.

09:05>> SHOUT OUT TO CANDACE.

09:06UM, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

09:08INSTEAD OF GOING.

09:08OVER A LOT MORE DETAILS ALL

09:11THIS FOCUS ON SOME.

09:11HIGHLIGHTS UM.

09:12FROM THE CAC.

09:13SO WITH UH.

09:16SO IN THE SPRING.

09:16AND SUMMER OF 2017.

09:18WE TALKED ABOUT THE 14

09:20COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

09:22UM WE ALSO HAD A.

09:23VIRTUAL TOWN HALL IN 2020 TO.

09:24REPORT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY

09:26AND THE WORK THAT THE CAC HAD

09:27BEEN DOING.

09:28>> AND WORKING WITH THE CITY ON

09:29AS WE KIND OF MOVE.

09:30FORWARD TO.

09:31UM, DRAFT AND A FINAL A FINAL

09:33EFFORT AT THAT WHICH UM

09:37DECEMBER 9TH.

09:38>> 2020 WAS A.

09:39UNANIMOUS DECISION BY THE.

09:40>> CITY COUNCIL.

09:41TO UH.

09:42TO AMEND THE ZONING AMENDMENT.

09:44TO INCLUDE UH FAIR.

09:45HOUSING AND ANTI DISPLACEMENT

09:46LANGUAGE.

09:46REALLY THIS WAS REALLY WAS THE

09:48FIRST UH THE FIRST.

09:49IN THE NATION SUCH.

09:51UM LEGISLATION UM EFFORT.

09:52SO THAT WAS ARE.

09:54REALLY AND ALSO THE THE ZONING

09:55AMENDMENT WAS REALLY.

09:57GOAL 7.1 OF THE F EIGHT.

09:59SO IT.

10:00REALLY WAS AN OPPORTUNITY.

10:01FOR THE.

10:02COMMUNITY AND CITY.

10:03LEGISLATOR TO KIND OF.

10:05WORK TOWARDS A COMMON GOAL.

10:07AND THAT.

10:08WAS UH FULFILLED.

10:09>> BY THE UNANIMOUS PASSING

10:10OF THE ZONING AMENDMENT.

10:15UM AUGUST 6TH, 2021 THE CAC

10:16SENT A FAIR HOUSING.

10:17QUESTIONNAIRE TO UH THE FIVE.

10:19CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR MAYOR

10:20AFTER UM UH MAYOR WASSERMAN TO

10:22WASHINGTON UM TO UM.

10:25FIVE OF.

10:26THE COUNCILS RESPONDED.

10:29UM, TWO OF THEM.

10:30ACTUALLY RESPONDED CENTER

10:32RECEIVED THE SURVEY, THE

10:33QUESTIONNAIRE.

10:34THE TWO FINAL UH CANDIDATES UH.

10:37COUNCIL SABI GEORGE.

10:37AND UM AND COUNCILOR.

10:39WU ACTUALLY RESPONDED IN DETAIL

10:42AND MAYOR WHO ACTUALLY AS A

10:45CANDIDATE COMMITTED.

10:45>> TO TO ADOPTING THE A F H BY

10:48EXECUTIVE ORDER SHOULD SHE.

10:50UM WIN TO WIN THE UH.

10:52MAYOR'S RACE BUT SHE DID.

10:53>> IN FACT DO WITHIN THREE

10:54MONTHS ACTUALLY LESS THAN THREE

10:55MONTHS UP OUR ADMINISTRATION.

10:59THE THE.

11:02THE UM A.

11:04F A PAGE ALSO INCLUDED AN.

11:06EXECUTIVE ORDER DRAFTED.

11:07BY THE CAC THAT.

11:08THAT THAT BUILT.

11:09>> INTO A MONITORING COMMITTEE

11:10TO TO UH TO MONITOR.

11:12THE PROGRESS OF THE.

11:14UM AT THE F H AND THE.

11:16>> LAST THING I WANT TO FOCUS

11:17ON IT WAS.

11:18>> PART OF UH.

11:19GO 7.1 WAS.

11:20UH BP WHEN AN.

11:22AUDIT OF THE BPD.

11:23PLANNING OFFICE.

11:24>> IN TERMS OF THEIR FAIR.

11:25HOUSING POLICIES AND HAPPY TO

11:28UM, JUST ANNOUNCED THAT.

11:30THE THE BPD DID IN.

11:32FACT HIRE CONSULTANT AND IS

11:33CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND

11:35COMPLETED THAT AUDIT.

11:36UM SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES MADE

11:37ME ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THAT IN.

11:38THE TALKING POINTS.

11:39BUT UM THE LAST.

11:40>> ONE I.

11:41WILL SAY.

11:41>> THIS THE CAC AND THE CITY.

11:43PARTNERSHIP IN MY IN MY VIEW.

11:44WAS A CLASSIC.

11:45TEXTBOOK UM, EXAMPLE.

11:47OF THE.

11:47VALUE OF HAVING A COMMUNITY.

11:50>> AND.

11:51A CITY PARTNERSHIP.

11:52UH THANK YOU.

11:53THANK YOU.

11:55>> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:56UH, LINKING.

11:57FOR THAT, UH.

11:59CONCISE HISTORY.

12:00THANK YOU.

12:01>> A LOT OF PIECES.

12:01THAT YOU.

12:02>> DIDN'T TOUCH UPON BUT BUT

12:03YOU.

12:04PROVIDED A REALLY.

12:04IMPORTANT FRAMEWORK.

12:06UH, MY ROLE TODAY IS TO.

12:08HIGHLIGHT A FEW BOSTON

12:09VICTORIES REGARDING.

12:10FAIR HOUSING.

12:11BUT ALSO MENTIONED BRIEFLY

12:14CONTINUING AND CURRENT.

12:15CHALLENGES FACING AFFIRMATIVELY

12:17FURTHERING.

12:17FAIR HOUSING.

12:18>> IN THE CITY.

12:19THE ADOPTION OF THE BOSTON

12:21ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING IN

12:232022, AS LINCOLN MENTIONED, IS

12:25AN IMPORTANT VICTORY FOR THE

12:26CITY IN MASSACHUSETTS.

12:28A FH WAS BASED ON A

12:30COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF SOCIAL

12:32,ECONOMIC AND RACIAL

12:34DISPARITIES AND HOW THEY SHOULD

12:35BE ADDRESSED WHEN USING A FAIR

12:37HOUSING LENS AS REQUIRED BY LAW

12:40.

12:40AND SUPPORTED CONSTITUTIONALLY

12:43BY NUMEROUS COURTS AND US

12:44SUPREME COURT DECISIONS

12:46BEGINNING WITH THE JONES

12:47DECISION IN 1968 AND THE

12:49ONTARIO DECISION IN 1973 AND

12:52OTHER JUDICIAL.

12:53DECISIONS SINCE.

12:55THE OFFICIAL ADOPTION OF FH.

12:58>> WAS IN LARGE PART.

12:59A RESULT OF EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY

13:01ORGANIZING THROUGHOUT BOSTON

13:03SPEARHEADED BY THE CAC AND

13:05OTHERS, MANY COMMUNITY BASED

13:06ORGANIZATIONS, HOUSING.

13:08ACTIVISTS AND ESPECIALLY THE

13:09BOSTON TENANTS COALITION AND

13:11THE CAC CONTRIBUTED TO THE

13:13INITIATION AND.

13:14COMPLETION OF THE FH.

13:17AS WE KNOW, THE ADOPTION

13:19OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

13:20FAIR HOUSING INTO BOSTON'S

13:22ZONING CODE WAS YET ANOTHER

13:24MAJOR VICTORY AND MOVED THE

13:25CITY CLOSER TO A.

13:27STRONGER AND.

13:28>> COMPREHENSIVE FAIR HOUSING

13:29MONITORING AND ENFORCEMENT IN

13:32IN 2019, THEN CITY

13:34COUNCILOR LYDIA EDWARDS

13:36INTRODUCED AN AMENDMENT TO

13:38INCORPORATE FAIR HOUSING INTO

13:39THE CITY'S ZONING CODE.

13:42SUBSEQUENTLY, THIS STRATEGY WAS

13:43ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND

13:45ENDORSED BY MAIL WASH.

13:47UH IN 2021, THE HIGHLY

13:49RECOGNIZED SHELTER FORCE

13:51MAGAZINE UH PUBLISHED A

13:53NATIONAL STORY ABOUT THIS

13:55VICTORY, DESCRIBING BOSTON AS

13:57THE FIRST MAJOR CITY TO DO SO

14:00THAT IS CONJOINING ZONING AND

14:03AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

14:04HOUSING.

14:07IN JANUARY 2022, MAYOR WHO

14:08ISSUE AN HISTORICALLY

14:09SIGNIFICANT EXECUTIVE ORDER AS

14:11YOU MENTIONED LINKING AN

14:13EXECUTIVE ORDER RELATIVE TO

14:14AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

14:15HOUSING AND THE IMPLEMENTATION

14:18OF THE CITY OF BOSTON'S

14:20ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.

14:21THIS EO ESTABLISH A MODERATING

14:24COMMITTEE CHARGED WITH MEETING

14:26QUARTERLY WITH CITY AGENCIES TO

14:28REVIEW PROGRESS OR LACK

14:29OF PROGRESS IN THE

14:31IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 14 GOALS

14:33OUTLINED IN THE ADOPTED FH.

14:35THIS WAS A REMARKABLE

14:37ACHIEVEMENT GIVEN THAT IN AN

14:39HISTORICALLY HIGHLY SEGREGATED

14:40SEGREGATED CITY.

14:41ITS ZONING.

14:42CODES AND REGULATIONS WERE

14:44DEVELOPED AND IMPLEMENTED

14:46WITHOUT ANY MENTION OF FAIR

14:48HOUSING OBLIGATIONS WHATSOEVER.

14:50OVER MANY DECADES SINCE THE

14:52FAIR HOUSING ACT OF 1968.

14:55IN JUNE 2025 THE BOSTON CITY

14:58COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED ONE

14:59MEMBER ABSENT A RESOLUTION

15:01ENDORSING AFFIRMATIVELY

15:03FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING.

15:04THIS REPRESENTED ANOTHER

15:07SIGNIFICANT TURNING POINT IN

15:09BOSTON.

15:09IT WAS THE BOSTON CITY

15:11COUNCIL'S STRONG AFFIRMATION

15:13ABOUT THE CRITICAL ROLE THAT

15:15ADVANCING AFFIRMATIVELY

15:16FURTHERING FOR HOUSING IS FOR

15:18THE CITY.

15:19VERY IMPORTANTLY, IT ALSO

15:20STRENGTHENED THE CORE FOR

15:22AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

15:23HOUSING DURING A PERIOD

15:25OF RETREAT ON THE PART OF THE

15:27CURRENT NATIONAL ADMINISTRATION

15:29.

15:29PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT

15:31VICTORY FOR FAIR HOUSING,

15:32HOWEVER, IS THE GREATER PUBLIC

15:35AWARENESS TODAY ABOUT WHAT FAIR

15:36HOUSING IS INCLUDING ITS INTO

15:39SECTORAL IMPLICATIONS.

15:41MORE ORGANIZATIONS AND

15:42RESIDENTS ARE ASKING WHAT THE

15:45FAIR HOUSING IMPLICATIONS

15:47OF POLICIES AND DECISIONS ARE

15:49ACROSS MULTIPLE AREAS INCLUDING

15:51TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC HEALTH,

15:53THE ENVIRONMENT, BUSINESS AND

15:55ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

15:57DESPITE THESE VICTORIES, THERE

15:58ARE STRUCTURAL CHALLENGES THAT

16:00MUST BE CONTINUED TO BE

16:01ADDRESSED TO ENSURE THAT

16:02EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO DECENT

16:04AND SUSTAINED AFFORDABLE

16:07HOUSING AND NOT SUFFER FROM

16:08HOUSING INSECURITY.

16:09HIGH INTEREST RATES,

16:11CONSTRUCTION COST, THE SUPPLY

16:13OF HOUSING, HIGH HOUSING COST

16:15AND THE INSECURE ECONOMIC

16:17SITUATION FACING THOUSANDS

16:19OF BOSTON FAMILIES EXACERBATE

16:22BOSTON'S DEEP HOUSING

16:23AFFORDABILITY CRISIS.

16:25AS I MENTIONED IN MY MARCH 6TH,

16:272026 TESTIMONY TO THIS BODY'S

16:29COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,

16:30RACIAL EQUALITY AND IMMIGRANT

16:32ADVANCEMENT, LARGE PROPORTIONS

16:34OF HOUSEHOLDS ARE SEVERELY

16:37HOUSING COST BURDEN AND SPEND

16:3950% OR MORE OF ANNUAL INCOME ON

16:41HOUSING.

16:43APPROXIMATELY 30% OF RENTER

16:44BLACK HOUSEHOLDS SPEND MORE

16:46THAN HALF OF THEIR INCOME ON

16:47HOUSING COSTS.

16:49THE FIGURE FOR ASIAN HOUSEHOLDS

16:51IS 24%, ALMOST 25% FOR LATINO

16:54OR LATINO RENTERS AND 19% FOR

16:56WHITES.

16:57ANOTHER DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP WHO

16:59WOULD SEE CONSIDERABLY LESS

17:01ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE AND DECENT

17:03AND DECENT HOUSING.

17:04ABSENT CONTINUING STRONG

17:06COMMITMENT TO AFFIRMATIVELY

17:07FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING ARE THE

17:09THOUSANDS OF BOSTONIANS WHO

17:11LIVE UNDER THE OFFICIAL.

17:13FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINES.

17:16AS WE PURSUE ECONOMIC

17:17DEVELOPMENT AND STRATEGIES TO

17:19RESPOND TO THE CITY'S HOUSING

17:20CRISIS, WE CANNOT FORGET THAT

17:23THESE ARE THE PEOPLE AND

17:24FAMILIES WHO WOULD BE LEFT OUT

17:26OF DECENT AND AFFORDABLE

17:27HOUSING.

17:28ABSENT A STRONG AFFIRMATIVELY

17:30FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING LENS,

17:32THESE KINDS OF CHALLENGES MUST

17:34BE ADDRESSED.

17:34WITHOUT THIS, WITHOUT

17:36SACRIFICING THE MOMENTUM THAT

17:38WE HAVE TAPPED.

17:39THUS FAR.

17:41SADLY, AS THE CITY SEEKS TO

17:43RESPOND TO THESE KINDS

17:44OF CHALLENGES POLITICAL AND

17:46IDEOLOGICAL ATTACKS AIMED AT

17:48WEAKENING FURTHERING FAIR.

17:49HOUSING HAVE EMERGED FROM THE

17:51CURRENT NATIONAL ADMINISTRATION

17:53UNDER THE TRUMP

17:54ADMINISTRATION'S APRIL 2025

17:56EXECUTIVE ORDER 14 TO 81

17:59RESTORING RESTORING EQUALITY

18:02OF OPPORTUNITY AND MERITOCRACY.

18:04HUD HAS SOUGHT TO WEAKEN A

18:07WEAKEN A CRITICAL TOOL

18:09OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

18:10FAIR HOUSING AND DISPARATE

18:11IMPACT.

18:12THIS ACTION REPRESENTS A BOLD

18:15VIOLATION OF NUMEROUS JUDICIARY

18:17AND U.S. SUPREME COURT

18:18DECISIONS OVER DECADES, AND IN

18:22SEPTEMBER 2025, HUD ATTEMPTED

18:23TO WEAKEN THE OFFICE OF FAIR

18:25HOUSING AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY

18:27ENFORCEMENT AND REGULATIONS

18:28THAT ARE AIMED AT PROTECTING

18:30AGAINST UNINTENTIONAL BUT REAL

18:31AND IMPACTFUL DISCRIMINATION.

18:34IT SOUGHT TO NARROW THE

18:35ENFORCEMENT PURVIEW OF THIS

18:37AGENCY AND DRASTICALLY CUT

18:39FUNDING.

18:40IT CAUSED A WEAKENING

18:41OF SUPPORT FOR PROTECTIONS

18:42TOUCHING LIMITED ENGLISH

18:44PROFICIENCY, CRIMINAL HISTORY

18:45AND TENANT SELECTION AND SOURCE

18:47OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION.

18:49BOSTON MUST CONTINUE TO FIGHT

18:50BACK LEGALLY AND POLITICALLY.

18:52WE HAVE ALREADY WON KEY

18:54VICTORIES IN RESPONSE TO THESE

18:56IDEOLOGICAL, POLITICALLY AND

18:58EVEN RACIST ATTACKS.

19:00IN MARCH 2026 SIX FOR EXAMPLE,

19:04IN MARCH 20TH 2616 STATES SUED

19:05HUD'S PROPOSED CHANGES AIMED AT

19:07WEAKENING THE FAIR HOUSING

19:09PROGRAM JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO,

19:11COURT COMPLETELY WITHDREW ITS

19:14ONEROUS PROPOSALS BECAUSE

19:15OF THIS LEGAL SUIT.

19:16AS NOTED IN THE PRESS RELEASE

19:18BY THE MASSACHUSETTS OFFICE

19:19OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ON NINE

19:22926 QUOTE FACED WITH THE

19:24LITIGATION, THE TRUMP

19:26ADMINISTRATION HAS CONFIRMED

19:27THAT IT NO LONGER SEEKS TO

19:29IMPOSE, IMPLEMENT OR ENFORCE

19:31THE CHALLENGED CONDITIONS IN

19:32THE FUTURE AND THAT OF THE

19:34FISCAL YEAR 2025 GUIDANCE UP

19:37BUT ALSO CONFIRMED THE

19:39CONDITIONS WILL NOT APPLY TO

19:41FISCAL YEAR 2026 FUNDING AND

19:43THAT HUD DOES NOT PLAN TO

19:44INCLUDE THEM IN FUTURE GUIDANCE

19:46AND OF QUOTE, WE SHOULD TAKE

19:48STOCK OF HOW OTHER CITIES

19:50ACROSS THE NATION ARE ALSO

19:52FIGHTING EFFORTS TO DESTROY THE

19:54SOCIAL AND RACIAL PROGRESS THAT

19:55NOT JUST THE CITY HAS BEEN

19:57MAKING BUT ALSO THE ENTIRE

19:59COUNTRY.

19:59SO LET ME STOP THERE.

20:01THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AGAIN

20:02IN ALLOWING ME TO MAKE THESE

20:03COMMENTS.

20:04AND MY COLLEAGUES MAY HAVE MORE

20:06SPECIFICS ABOUT SOME OF THE

20:08ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN

20:09DISCUSSING.

20:11THANK YOU JAMES.

20:12I'M NADEEN COHEN, A MEMBER

20:15OF THE CAC AND THE MONITORING

20:17COMMITTEE AND I WANT TO THANK

20:20COUNCILOR WORRELL AND OTHERS

20:21FOR ORGANIZING THIS REALLY

20:23IMPORTANT HEARING AND THANKING

20:24ALL THE COUNCILORS FOR

20:27ATTENDING.

20:27I WILL FOCUS ON WHAT SPECIFIC

20:30STEPS THE CAC RECOMMENDS THE

20:33CITY SHOULD BE TAKING TO ENSURE

20:36IT COMPLIES WITH ITS FAIR

20:37HOUSING OBLIGATIONS UNDER STATE

20:39AND FEDERAL LAW UNDER MAYOR

20:42WU'S EXECUTIVE ORDER.

20:44UNDER THIS COUNCIL'S

20:46RESOLUTIONS AND UNDER THE

20:48CITY'S ZONING CODE.

20:50BUT BEFORE I BEGIN, I WANT TO

20:52VERY BRIEFLY REMIND US THAT THE

20:55CITY OF BOSTON'S FAIR HOUSING

20:57COMMISSION WAS ORDERED BY THE

20:59FEDERAL COURT IN THE CASE THAT

21:02THE NAACP BROUGHT AGAINST HUD

21:05IN THE 1980S TO PROVIDE

21:09EFFECTIVE FAIR HOUSING

21:11ENFORCEMENT TO RESIDENTS OF THE

21:13CITY.

21:14IN THAT CASE, HUD WAS FOUND TO

21:16HAVE FAILED TO MEET ITS DUTY TO

21:20AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR

21:22HOUSING BY FAILING TO ENSURE

21:25THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON

21:28COMPLIED WITH ITS FAIR HOUSING

21:31OBLIGATIONS.

21:31THE CITY OF BOSTON'S FAIR

21:33HOUSING COMMISSION WAS

21:35EXPLICITLY REQUIRED TO ENFORCE

21:37FAIR HOUSING LAWS, MAINTAIN A

21:40ROBUST COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION

21:42SYSTEM AND CONDUCT A MINORITY

21:45NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND IDENTIFY

21:48BARRIERS TO HOUSING FACED BY

21:51MINORITY HOUSEHOLDS.

21:52IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND

21:54THAT WE ARE PART OF A LONG

21:57HISTORY OF TRYING TO ENSURE

21:59THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE EQUAL

22:01HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT

22:03THE CITY AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERS

22:05FAIR HOUSING IN ALL OF ITS

22:08PROGRAMS, POLICIES AND

22:10DECISIONS.

22:12SO WHAT THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY

22:15COMMITTEE ON AFFIRMATIVELY

22:17FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING WOULD

22:18LIKE TO SEE THE CITY DO IS ONE

22:22RESUME THE EQUITY AUDIT THAT'S

22:26REQUIRED UNDER THE ASSESSMENT

22:27OF FAIR HOUSING.

22:29WITHOUT THIS WE DO NOT CLEARLY

22:31KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT FAIR

22:33HOUSING NEEDS ARE AND HOW WELL

22:36THE CITY IS DOING IN MEETING

22:38THOSE NEEDS.

22:39AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE

22:41DO APPRECIATE THAT THE CITY IS

22:43IN A TOUGH SPOT BECAUSE OF THE

22:45HUD INVESTIGATION, BUT WE

22:48REALLY THINK PLANS HAVE TO BE

22:50MADE TO RESTART UH, THE EQUITY

22:53AUDIT THAT WAS BEGUN.

22:55WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE

22:57CITY FILL THE POSITION OF THE

22:59EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE

23:01OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND

23:02EQUITY.

23:03THIS POSITION HAS BEEN VACANT

23:06SINCE THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF BOB

23:09TERRELL IN JANUARY 2025.

23:13THERE ARE ALSO OTHER LONG

23:15STANDING VACANCIES AT THE FAIR

23:18HOUSING LAW OFFICE, INCLUDING

23:19THE DIRECTOR OF EDUCATION AND

23:22OUTREACH AND A POLICY A PUBLIC

23:24POLICY MANAGER WHO WOULD BE THE

23:27PERSON IN CHARGE

23:28OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

23:30FAIR HOUSING WORK.

23:31THE OFFICE NEEDS A DEDICATED

23:34POLICY PERSON WHO WILL BE

23:37PROACTIVE.

23:38WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THE OFFICE

23:40OF FAIR HOUSING IS NOT GETTING

23:42THE RESOURCES AND SUPPORT THAT

23:45IT NEEDS TO LEAD THE CITY'S

23:47FAIR HOUSING EFFORTS.

23:49AND WE'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE

23:51CITY'S PLANS ARE FOR HIRING,

23:53UH, FOR THE OFFICE.

23:54WHAT IS THE TIMELINE AND WHAT'S

23:57THE PLAN FOR SUSTAINING AND

24:00SUPPORTING?

24:01UH, THE, UH OFFICE THE CIC

24:06BELIEVES THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE

24:07A POINT PERSON IN THE CITY TO

24:10LEAD AND COORDINATE THE CITY'S

24:13FAIR HOUSING WORK.

24:16CURRENTLY THERE IS A LACK

24:18OF COORDINATION AND LEADERSHIP

24:19.

24:20WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF FAIR

24:21HOUSING, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

24:23OF HOUSING, THE PLANNING

24:25DEPARTMENT, THE BA ALL HAVING

24:28SOME FAIR HOUSING

24:31RESPONSIBILITIES WITHOUT

24:32SOMEONE WHOSE MAIN ROLE IS TO

24:35ENSURE ALL THE FAIR HOUSING

24:36WORK IS GETTING DONE IN A

24:39COORDINATED MANNER.

24:40FAIR HOUSING CAN AND DOES FALL

24:43THROUGH THE CRACKS.

24:44FAIR HOUSING NEEDS TO BE A

24:47PRIORITY FOR THE CITY AND NEEDS

24:49A STRONG INNOVATIVE LEAD OR THE

24:53MONITORING COMMITTEE WHICH MY

24:56UM COLLEAGUES HAVE TALKED ABOUT

24:57THAT IS REQUIRED UNDER THE

25:00ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING HAS

25:03NOT MET FOR A WHILE AND NEEDS

25:05TO GET BACK TO REGULAR MEETING

25:07UH, MEETINGS.

25:09IT IS UNCLEAR RIGHT NOW WHO THE

25:12PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT IS.

25:14THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

25:18SAYS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

25:19OF THE OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING

25:22IS TO CHAIR THE MONITORING

25:24COMMITTEE.

25:24BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO UH, EAD

25:27FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS.

25:29TIME IS TRULY OF THE ESSENCE.

25:32HOUSING IS BEING BUILT AND WE

25:34NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL NEW

25:37HOUSING MEETS FAIR HOUSING

25:39REQUIREMENTS.

25:41AS UM JAMES AND LINCOLN HAVE

25:44SAID, THE CITY OF BOSTON HAS

25:46BEEN A NATIONAL LEADER IN FAIR

25:50HOUSING.

25:50IT WAS THE FIRST CITY TO PASS

25:53THE FH AMENDMENT WITH ZONING

25:56CODE AND HAVE THE MAYOR SIGN A

25:57STRONG EXECUTIVE ORDER ADOPTING

26:00THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

26:02AT A TIME WHEN THE FEDERAL

26:04GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO RENEGE

26:06ON ALL ITS FAIR HOUSING

26:08COMMITTEE COMMITMENTS.

26:10THE CITY MUST HOLD FIRM, LEAD

26:13THE WAY AND BE A MODEL FOR

26:15OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY

26:17.

26:17THANK YOU.

26:20AWESOME.

26:21>> GREAT.

26:22>> SO UM.

26:24MY NAME IS ARMANI WHITE AND I'M

26:25THE, UH, CO-FOUNDER AND

26:26EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF RECLAIM

26:28ROXBURY.

26:28AND UM, LIKE MY OTHER ADVOCATES

26:30HERE, I SERVE ON THE, UH,

26:32CITY'S AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

26:33FAIR HOUSING COMMUNITY ADVISORY

26:35COMMITTEE.

26:35IT'S A MOUTHFUL BUT IMPORTANT

26:37TO KNOW.

26:37UH, RECLAIM ROXBURY INVOLVEMENT

26:39IN THE WORK GOES BACK TO 2015.

26:41UH, WHEN WE HELPED SHAPE THE

26:42ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

26:44EFFORT THAT WAS LED BY THE

26:45BOSTON TENANT COALITION THAT

26:46LINCOLN AND OTHERS HERE

26:47MENTIONED.

26:48UH, RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY

26:50ORGANIZERS UH, BACK THEN WERE

26:51PRESSING BOSTON TO TAKE ITS

26:52OBLIGATION TO ADVOCATE

26:54SERIOUSLY.

26:55AND SO I'M PROUD TO SEE THAT,

26:56YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS WORKING

26:58TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS

26:59TODAY.

26:59UH, AND SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE

27:01WHAT BOSTON HAS DONE.

27:02BEFORE I GET INTO WHAT THEY

27:03NEED TO DO BETTER.

27:03UM, SO THE CITY HAS MADE FAIR

27:05HOUSING A PART OF ITS

27:06DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND

27:07ESTABLISHED A COMMUNITY

27:08ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AS WE'VE

27:09MENTIONED AND A MODERN

27:10COMMITTEE, UH, CREATING A ROLE

27:12FOR RESIDENTS.

27:13AND IT HAS ADOPTED AN ANTI

27:15DISPLACEMENT ACTION PLAN UH,

27:16WHICH WE BEGAN PILOTING, YOU

27:18KNOW, DIRECT DISPLACEMENT

27:19DISCLOSURES UH, ASKING

27:21DEVELOPERS TO IDENTIFY WHEN A

27:22PROJECT COULD FORCE PEOPLE FROM

27:23THEIR HOMES AND LOCAL

27:24BUSINESSES.

27:25UM, AND THOSE ARE MEANINGFUL

27:27STEPS.

27:27AND SO THE OFFICE OF FAIR

27:28HOUSING AND EQUITY ALSO PLAYS

27:30AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN

27:31INVESTIGATING DISCRIMINATION

27:32AND TESTING, UH, WHETHER PEOPLE

27:34ARE ACTUALLY BEING TREATED

27:35FAIRLY WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING

27:37FOR HOUSING, WHICH WE KNOW IS

27:38SO IMPORTANT IN THE CITY WHERE

27:39SO MANY SECTION EIGHT HOLDERS

27:40AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR UH,

27:42FOR RENT.

27:43UM AND SO I'M GLAD DOING WHAT'S

27:45IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING TODAY

27:46ON THE PANEL BECAUSE HE HAS

27:47BEEN A PART OF THIS WORK FOR

27:48MANY YEARS AND IS A PART OF THE

27:50ESSENTIAL KIND OF UM, PART

27:51OF HOW THAT OFFICE FUNCTIONS.

27:53AND UM, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO

27:56HAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE WHILE WE

27:57ALSO TALK ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO

27:58BE IMPROVED.

27:59UH, AND I APPRECIATE MAYOR RULE

28:00AND ADMINISTRATION STANDING UP

28:02TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S

28:02ATTACKS ON BOSTON'S HOUSING

28:04EQUITY WORK.

28:05AS YOU HEARD I MENTIONED.

28:06UM, THE, UH THE FEDERAL

28:08ADMINISTRATION THINKS BOSTON IS

28:09ANTI-WHITE, WHICH IS CRAZY,

28:10RIGHT?

28:11UM, AND SO THE SUGGESTION THAT

28:12ADDRESSING GENERATIONS

28:13OF EXCLUSION FROM HOUSING IS

28:15SOMEHOW ANTI-WHITE IS

28:16RIDICULOUS.

28:17AND SO BOSTON SHOULD DEFEND ITS

28:18COMMITMENT TO FAIR HOUSING

28:19WITHOUT AN APOLOGY.

28:20RIGHT.

28:21THAT'S LIKE EASY TO SAY.

28:22SO BUT DEFENDING THAT

28:23COMMITMENT ALSO MEANS CARRYING

28:24IT OUT FULLY HERE IN BOSTON.

28:26SO IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO JUST SAY

28:27IT.

28:27UM AND FOR BLACK BOSTONIANS

28:28FAIR HOUSING IS NOT AN ABSTRACT

28:30PRINCIPLE.

28:31ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT,

28:32UM, OUR FAMILIES HAVE BEEN SHUT

28:33OUT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO BUY

28:34HOMES, TO BUILD WEALTH AND TO

28:36REMAIN IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

28:37UH, WE HAVE HELPED BUILD AND A

28:39FAMILY.

28:39FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING

28:40REQUIRES THE CITY TO CONFRONT

28:41THAT HISTORY AND THE DECISIONS

28:43IT MAKES TODAY.

28:44UM, AND SO I RECLAIM ROXBURY.

28:45WE'VE HELPED TO MAKE THOSE

28:46DECISIONS TANGIBLE.

28:47IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT NUBIAN

28:48SQUARE UM, FORMERLY DUDLEY

28:50SQUARE ON PUBLIC LAND, WE

28:51PUSHED TO ENSURE THAT UM

28:54PROJECTS ARE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE

28:55THAT RESIDENTS UM AND

28:58ENTREPRENEURS HAVE

28:59OPPORTUNITIES.

29:00UH, BUT THERE ARE BLACK LED AND

29:01DIVERSE DEVELOPMENT TEAMS AND

29:02THAT WE GET A REAL SAYING WHAT

29:03GETS BUILT?

29:04IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY

29:05PROUD OF AND WE INSISTED THAT

29:07DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BENEFIT

29:08PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED THROUGH

29:09DISINVESTMENT AND THE THREAT

29:11OF DISPLACEMENT.

29:12UM, AND IF WE CAN DEMAND THAT

29:13STANDARD IN ROXBURY, BOSTON CAN

29:15APPLY IT EVERYWHERE.

29:17AND SO THAT WILL TAKE A STRONG

29:18OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND

29:19EQUITY LED BY PROFESSIONALS

29:20WITH DEEP FAIR HOUSING

29:22EXPERIENCE.

29:23UM AND I WANT TO HONOR BOB'S

29:24ROLE AND THE LEADERSHIP HE

29:25BROUGHT TO THIS WORK WHEN HE

29:26WAS HERE.

29:26UH, BUT SINCE HIS PASSING FOR

29:28THE PAST TWO YEARS THE OFFICE

29:29HAS LACKED A PERMANENT

29:30DIRECTOR, WHICH IS, UM, NEEDS

29:32TO BE CHANGED.

29:33UH, AND THE DISRUPTION HAS BEEN

29:35FELT AS YOU'VE HEARD OTHER

29:35PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AND I

29:36UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS WORKING

29:38TO FILL THAT POSITION AND WE

29:39YOU KNOW, WE'VE SUGGESTED A

29:40COUPLE PEOPLE.

29:41UH, AND ALSO FOR THE TESTING

29:43LEADERSHIP POSITION.

29:43UH, BUT WE NEED THOSE SEARCHES

29:45TO MOVE WITH URGENCY.

29:46WE NEED YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO

29:48MAKE A DECISION AND WE NEED

29:49PEOPLE IN THOSE ROLES WHO KNOW

29:51FAIR HOUSING ENFORCEMENT, UH,

29:52OF TESTING AND THE COMMUNITIES

29:54THAT THIS OFFICE SERVES.

29:56UH, AND SO TESTING IS ACTUALLY

29:57HOW WE FIND DISCRIMINATION THAT

29:58PEOPLE, UH, MAY NEVER KNOW.

30:00EXCUSE ME.

30:01TESTING IS HOW WE FIND

30:02DISCRIMINATION THAT PEOPLE

30:03NEVER KNOW THEY EXPERIENCED

30:04BECAUSE PEOPLE MIGHT NOT EVEN

30:05KNOW THEY'RE BEING.

30:06DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.

30:07RIGHT.

30:08>> BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST AREN'T.

30:09EXPERTS IN FAIR HOUSING LAW AND

30:10BUT THEY ARE USED.

30:12TO RACISM AND THE WAY THAT

30:14THINGS WORK IN EVERYDAY LIFE.

30:16UM AND SO WE ALSO NEED A CLEAR

30:18PUBLIC ACCOUNT OF HOW FAIR

30:19HOUSING SHAPES DEVELOPMENT

30:20DECISIONS FOR THE CITY'S FORMAL

30:21FAIR HOUSING REVIEWS APPLIES TO

30:23LARGE PROJECTS BUT IS MUCH LESS

30:25CLEAR TO RESIDENTS HOW FAIR

30:26HOUSING IS CONSIDERED IN OTHER

30:28DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

30:29UH, AND WHEN THE BOSTON INTER

30:31AGENCY FAIR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT

30:32COMMITTEE ANOTHER MOUTHFUL.

30:34UH, WHEN THEY REVIEW A PROJECT

30:36ITS COMMENTS AND THE RESULTING

30:37COMMITMENTS WHICH YOU KNOW IF

30:39YOU'RE IF YOU'RE A DISTRICT

30:40CITY COUNCIL YOU HAVE A

30:40DEVELOPMENT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD

30:41THERE IS THOSE COMMENTS ARE IN

30:44THE YOU KNOW THE REVIEW PACKET

30:45FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

30:46UM BUT IT'S NOT EASY TO FIND AS

30:48AN ADVOCATE WHO DOES THIS YOU

30:49KNOW, EVERY DAY.

30:50UM AND SO RESIDENTS SHOULD BE

30:51ABLE TO SEE WHAT CONCERNS ARE

30:52RAISED BY THE BOSTON INTER

30:54AGENCY FAIR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT

30:55COMMITTEE AND WHAT'S CHANGED

30:56AND WHETHER THOSE COMMITMENTS

30:57WERE KEPT.

30:59UM AND SO MY ASK IS

31:00STRAIGHTFORWARD.

31:00OUR ASK IS STRAIGHTFORWARD.

31:01FILL THE LEADERSHIP VACANCIES

31:02WITH EXPERIENCED FAIR HOUSING

31:04PROFESSIONALS.

31:04RESTORE THE OFFICES CAPACITY.

31:06UH, MAKE FAIR HOUSING REVIEW

31:08AND ITS OUTCOMES VISIBLE TO THE

31:09PUBLIC.

31:10UH, AND BOSTON HAS TAKEN

31:11IMPORTANT STEPS CURRENTLY.

31:12BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT

31:13THAT COMMITMENT REACHES, UH,

31:15BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES AND

31:16EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE

31:17DECISIONS ABOUT LAND AND

31:18HOUSING ARE BEING MADE.

31:19THANK YOU.

31:21THANK YOU.

31:22>> THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE

31:24FOR ME.

31:24SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR

31:25STATEMENTS IN YOUR WORK.

31:27OKAY SO NOW BEFORE I WANT TO

31:29ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN

31:30JOINED ALSO BY

31:31COUNCILOR FITZGERALD AND

31:32COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE I'M GOING

31:34TO GIVE MY COLLEAGUES IN.

31:35SORRY.

31:36YES.

31:36AND YOU KNOW I YOU JUST SO

31:38STRONG I ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU

31:39WERE HERE RIGHT NEXT TO ME.

31:41SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY

31:43ONE OF THE CO-SPONSORS,

31:45COUNCILOR COLE PEPPER.

31:46SO I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE MY

31:48COLLEAGUES THE OPPORTUNITY TO

31:50DO SOME Q&A.

31:51I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM EACH.

31:54LET'S DO FIVE MINUTES.

31:55IS THAT OKAY?

31:57FIVE MINUTES.

31:57AND THEN IF THEY HAVE SECOND

31:58ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS I'LL ALLOW

31:59THEM TO DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL

32:01MOVE ON TO THE SECOND PANEL.

32:02BUT WE'LL START OFF WITH THE

32:04THREE SPONSORS AND CO-SPONSORS

32:07OF THIS DOCKET STARTING WITH

32:08COUNCILOR WU COUNCILOR CULPEPER

32:10THEN MEJIA AND THEN BY

32:11ATTENDANCE.

32:12SO COUNCILOR WORRELL FLOOR IS

32:13YOURS.

32:14>> THANK YOU.

32:14>> CHAIR AND AGAIN THANK YOU TO

32:15THE PANEL FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON

32:17MAKING BOSTON.

32:18UH.

32:18>> A NATIONAL LEADER IN THIS

32:19WORK AND ALSO.

32:20JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO

32:22HONOR.

32:22>> THE WORK OF THE LATE GREAT

32:23BOB TYRRELL AS WELL.

32:25UM, I.

32:26HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT

32:27I'M GONNA SEE IF I COULD KEEP

32:28THEM ALL DOWN.

32:30UM, AND PREPARE QUESTIONS AND

32:32QUESTIONS AS YOU GUYS WERE

32:34TALKING.

32:35SO CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THE

32:38MONITORING COMMITTEE AND THE

32:41INFORMATION YOU RECEIVE?

32:42UH, FROM THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO

32:44EVALUATE THE CITY'S PROGRESS.

32:49YEAH.

32:50>> UM, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME?

32:52OKAY.

32:52OKAY.

32:52YEAH, I THINK THE I MEAN, THE

32:53THE QUARTERLY REPORTS WE

32:54RECEIVE ARE ONE OF THE MOST

32:56TANGIBLE WAYS THAT I HAVE SEEN

32:58LOCAL GOVERNMENT SHOW THEIR

33:00COMMITMENT TO FAIR HOUSING, UH,

33:02ABOUT MY COMMITMENT TO MAKING

33:03CHANGE RATHER AND IN THIS CASE

33:05AROUND FAIR HOUSING.

33:06AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY.

33:06SEEING REPORTS.

33:07FROM EACH.

33:08DEPARTMENT OR.

33:09>> NO REPORTS.

33:09WHICH IS A PROBLEM AND.

33:10THEY DON'T REPORT BUT.

33:11WE'RE SEEING THAT THERE.

33:13>> ARE GOALS AND THEN THERE ARE

33:14QUARTERLY UPDATES AND EXCEL

33:16SPREADSHEETS EASY TO READ.

33:17OKAY.

33:17>> OKAY.

33:18WELL I THINK IN THE BEGINNING

33:21THE MONITORING COMMITTEE WE HAD

33:24UM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WE

33:26HAD THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

33:27OF HOUSING VHA THE HEALTH

33:29COMMISSION AND EVERYBODY GAVE

33:33UH REPORTS ON WHAT THEIR

33:34OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE

33:36ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING WAS.

33:38AND THE BHB DEVELOPED A

33:40FANTASTIC SPREADSHEET AND WE'RE

33:43JUST ASKING THAT THAT CONTINUES

33:45BECAUSE THAT WAS JUST AN

33:47AMAZING, UM, WAY TO KEEP TRACK

33:51OF WHAT EVERYONE WAS DOING

33:52AROUND FAIR HOUSING.

33:53THANK YOU.

33:55YEAH.

33:56YEAH.

33:57>> SO SO.

33:57ECHO WHAT UM, MY COLLEAGUES.

33:58>> HAVE.

33:59SAID I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS

34:00THAT I THINK UM, COULD.

34:02BE UM, ADD SOME MORE VALUE IS

34:05A.

34:05>> LARGE PART OF THE THE.

34:07THE FHA PROCESS WAS TO KIND

34:09OF THINK ABOUT A.

34:11UM AN INTERSECTIONALITY.

34:12>> THAT JAMES TALK ABOUT.

34:13BECAUSE YOU KNOW, UH, FAIR

34:14HOUSING REALLY.

34:14INTERSECTS UM.

34:16PEOPLE KIND OF THINK OF FOR.

34:17HOUSING I THINK HOUSING AND

34:18THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY MAIN.

34:19WHICH IT RESIDES BUT IT REALLY

34:21CUTS ACROSS.

34:21>> A LOT OF DIFFERENT DOMAINS.

34:23SO I THINK ONE OF.

34:24THING THAT THAT COULD BE USEFUL

34:26WITHIN THE MARGIN.

34:27COMMITTEE AND ALL THE REPORTS

34:28THAT.

34:28>> THE DIFFERENT CITY

34:29DEPARTMENTS.

34:30UM PRESENT.

34:31IS HAVE.

34:32>> SOME KIND OF VISION ABOUT

34:33HOW TO INTEGRATE BECAUSE IT

34:35STILL IS STILL UH FAIRLY SILOED

34:37IN TERMS OF UM WE'RE DOING OUR

34:39LITTLE PIECE.

34:40>> FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.

34:40>> HERE.

34:41OR THERE.

34:41BUT I THINK THAT YES, THERE

34:42OUGHT TO BE A LARGER STRATEGY.

34:43HOW DO YOU INTEGRATE THESE

34:45ACROSS CITY DEPARTMENTS AND

34:46CITY DOMAINS.

34:47UH, TO A.

34:48LARGER KIND OF UNIVERSAL.

34:50>> FOR HOUSING POLICY, RIGHT.

34:51I THINK THEY BEEN MENTIONED AS

34:52LIKE HAVING LIKE UH A POSITION

34:54THAT HELPS COORDINATE ALL THE

34:56EFFORTS ACROSS THE CITY OPPOSED

34:59TO EVERYONE DOING IT WITHIN

35:00THEIR OWN SILOED DEPARTMENT.

35:01UM, AND SPEAKING OF REPORTING,

35:04UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS NADEEM WHO

35:05MENTIONED THE EQUITY AUDIT.

35:07UM, THAT WAS UH, RFP IN 2025.

35:12UM, WHAT CAN YOU TALK TO

35:13ME ABOUT WHAT THAT INDEPENDENT

35:15AUDIT WAS SUPPOSED TO IDENTIFY

35:18OR REVIEW OR PROVIDE

35:19INFORMATION THE DATA TO THE

35:21CITY.

35:22AND I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER

35:23PEOPLE WANT TO DO IT.

35:24IT'S REALLY SPELLED OUT IN THE

35:27ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING WHAT

35:29THE AUDIT IS REQUIRED TO DO.

35:31AND IN ALL FAIRNESS THE CITY

35:33DID HIRE CONTRACTORS TO DO THE

35:36AUDIT AND THEY WERE IN THE

35:38MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS AND IT

35:40WAS LOOKING ACROSS ALL THE CITY

35:42DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT FAIR

35:44HOUSING WORK THEY ARE DOING

35:46WHAT HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS, WHAT

35:48ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE.

35:49AND THAT AUDIT WAS PAUSED AFTER

35:53THE UH, HUD INVESTIGATION

35:56STARTED AND WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE

36:00SYMPATHETIC BUT THIS IS WHAT

36:02THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS

36:04DOING.

36:04THEY ARE KILLING FAIR HOUSING

36:07AND WE JUST CAN SAY ALL RIGHT,

36:10WE'RE GOING TO STOP DOING OUR

36:12FAIR HOUSING AUDIT FOREVER.

36:16SO THAT'S OUR CONCERN.

36:17AND WHEN UH UH, ONE MAJOR PIECE

36:23WAS ALSO TO UH, ASSESS WHAT

36:26LINCOLN JUST TOUCHED UPON.

36:27WHAT IS THE UNDERSTANDING.

36:29>> OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING.

36:31>> FAIR HOUSING OUT.

36:32>> THERE AMONG CITY OFFICIALS

36:33AND CITY WORKERS?

36:35UH, A LOT OF.

36:37PEOPLE AGAIN BELIEVE APPROACHED

36:39FAIR HOUSING AS.

36:41I WAS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST

36:43AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

36:44HOUSING GOES.

36:45WAY BEYOND THAT.

36:46UH, HOUSING IS CONNECTED TO OUR

36:48PUBLIC SCHOOLS, TO PUBLIC

36:50SAFETY, TO PUBLIC HEALTH, TO

36:51THE ENVIRONMENT, TO THE AIR.

36:53UH, SO HOW HOW DO WE

36:57COLLECTIVELY.

36:58UNDERSTAND THAT.

36:59INTEREST SEXUAL.

37:00NATURE OF.

37:01>> FAIR HOUSING?

37:02UH, AND I COULD TELL YOU IN A

37:04LOT OF PLACES BASED ON ANOTHER

37:05STUDY THAT I WAS PART OF UH, UH

37:08,LOOKING AT CITIES IN THE

37:10GREATER BOSTON AREA AND TOWNS

37:12THERE'S A LOT

37:13OF MISUNDERSTANDING.

37:14THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, ZERO

37:17KNOWLEDGE, UH, AMONG VERY.

37:19WELL-MEANING PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT.

37:21AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

37:22HOUSING IS AND WHAT ACTUALLY.

37:25>> HAS BEEN.

37:25ENDORSED BY LAWS AND U.S.

37:28SUPREME COURT DECISIONS IN THIS

37:29COUNTRY.

37:32YEAH.

37:32SO I.

37:33>> THINK UM SO THE QUESTION YOU

37:34ASK IS A GOOD ONE, UH,

37:36COUNCILOR IN THE SENSE THAT UM,

37:37SO THERE'S A PRESUMPTION BEEN

37:39AROUND WHAT UM GOAL 7.1 AND AN

37:43EQUITY AUDIT IS SUPPOSED TO DO

37:44AND IT IS IT IS IT IS FAIRLY

37:46SPELLED OUT UM THE CAC WAS

37:48HAPPY WITH THE UM THE

37:50INDEPENDENT UH CONTRACT WITH

37:52THE INDEPENDENT.

37:53CONTRACTOR THAT.

37:54>> UH THE CITY HIRED TO DO THE

37:55ASSESSMENT AND WERE HAPPY IN

37:56TERMS OF WHAT THE PROCESS HAD

37:58BEEN GOING BEFORE THE PAUSE.

38:00I THINK ONE OF THE ONE OF THE

38:01QUESTIONS IS STILL OUTSTANDING

38:02WE DON'T KNOW IS BECAUSE WE

38:04DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL AUDIT IN

38:06FRONT OF US TO LOOK AT.

38:07BUT THE GOAL REALLY THE.

38:08>> END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW,

38:09BOSTON HAS A HISTORY OF UH A

38:11HISTORY OF UM DISCRIMINATION

38:13AND VIOLATING THEORIES AND

38:14PRACTICE AND SO ON AND SO

38:15FORTH.

38:15YOU KNOW AND WE KNOW THIS YOU

38:17KNOW.

38:18SO THE LARGER.

38:19QUESTION AND THAT YOU CAN'T

38:20ANSWER UNTIL YOU SEE THE

38:21ACTUAL.

38:21AUDIT IS.

38:22DOES THE AUDIT GO INTO THE KIND

38:25OF DETAIL AND ACTUALLY AND

38:27ACTUALLY CRITICALLY THE

38:28CRITICAL QUESTIONS AND HARD

38:29QUESTIONS.

38:30AND PROVIDE REAL.

38:31ANSWERS THAT THEN THE CITY CAN

38:33LOOK AT AND TAKE ACTION TO MOVE

38:34FORWARD TO REALLY IMPROVE NOT

38:35ONLY FOR FOR HOUSING EQUITY,

38:38UH, ACROSS THE CITY OF BOSTON.

38:39SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S AN

38:40OUTSTANDING QUESTION THAT'S

38:41STILL LEFT TO BE ANSWERED.

38:42THANK YOU.

38:43>> CHAIR THANK YOU,

38:45COUNCILOR CULPEPPER YEAH FIVE

38:46MINUTES.

38:47THANK YOU CHAIR FOR.

38:49HOLDING THIS HEARING AND.

38:50THANK YOU TO COUNCIL WILL RAIL

38:51AND WE'LL, UH FOR CO-SPONSORING

38:54.

38:55THIS HEARING.

38:56I, UH.

39:00JUST WANTED TO SAY.

39:04DEAN COHEN AND I WORKED FOR

39:05YEARS.

39:06I WAS SURE.

39:08>> THAT GREATER BOSTON LEGAL.

39:09SERVICES AND OURS.

39:10AS A REGIONAL COUNCIL.

39:11I WORK WITH CHAMBERS UNIONS FOR

39:12YEARS AND.

39:15TO FIND OURSELVES IN THIS

39:17PREDICAMENT WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

39:19AND I'M REALLY.

39:21FOCUSED ON THIS CITY FOR JUST

39:22ONE MINUTE MINUTE BECAUSE EVERY

39:25OPPORTUNITY I'VE HAD I ASKED

39:26THE CITY WHEN WERE WE GOING TO

39:28HAVE A FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR

39:30HIRED?

39:31I WAS TOLD SEVERAL TIMES BY THE

39:34END OF THE SUMMER THAT WE WOULD

39:36HAVE A FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR

39:39HIRED AND ON BOARD AND THERE

39:41WERE RUMORS THAT WE HAD ONE

39:43THAT ONE WAS HIRED BUT I

39:45HAVEN'T SEEN OR HEARD UH, A

39:47FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR BEING

39:50HIRED AND SOMEONE COMES IN AND

39:53ONCE AGAIN, UH, MAKING THE

39:56STRONGEST REQUESTS THAT I CAN

39:57TO THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WE

40:00HAVE A FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR

40:02HIRED BY THE END OF THE SUMMER,

40:05UH, BECAUSE THE WORK THAT THAT

40:07BOB DID AND WE WORK WITH BOB A

40:09LOT WHAT A GREAT DIRECTOR HE

40:11WAS THE STANDARDS THAT HE SAID

40:14AND WHERE WE ARE NOW AND I

40:16REMEMBER A DAY AND SO TO YOU

40:19WHEN WE REJECTED THE CITY

40:20OF BOSTON'S FIRST AFFIRMATIVELY

40:22FURTHER AND FAIR HOUSING PLAN

40:23THAT THEY SUBMITTED TO HAD WE

40:26SEND IT BACK I WAS REGIONAL

40:27COUNCIL.

40:27I HAD SAID NO, THIS IS NOT GOOD

40:29ENOUGH.

40:30WHEN YOU LOOK.

40:31AT THE PLAN THAT THEY FINALLY

40:33CAME UP WITH, IT'S AMAZING HOW

40:36THE CITY UH MOVED TO THE

40:38FOREFRONT OF THE COUNTRY IN

40:39TERMS OF FAIR HOUSING AND IT

40:41WASN'T BY MISTAKE IT WAS

40:43BECAUSE OF A LOT OF HARD WORK.

40:46AND I GO BACK TO THAT STUDY

40:48THAT UH, BOSTON FOUNDATION DID

40:51WITH SUFFOLK LAW SCHOOL THAT

40:53TESTING PROGRAM, THE SECTION

40:54EIGHT PROGRAM.

40:55I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT

40:57REAL QUICK AND ASK EACH OF YOU

40:59WHAT SHOULD THE CITY OF BOSTON

41:00HAVE DONE AFTER THE BOSTON

41:03FOUNDATION AND SUFFOLK

41:05UNIVERSITY ISSUED THEIR REPORT

41:07REGARDING SECTION EIGHT

41:08DISCRIMINATION?

41:11WELL, I THINK UH UH UH THE

41:16FIRST WOULD BE TO UH.

41:20DECLARE THAT THE CITY UH HAS

41:24BEEN STRUGGLING VERY POSITIVE

41:26AND THEY PROGRESSIVELY TO BUILD

41:28A VISION WHERE EVERYONE IS

41:30INCLUDED AND WE'RE NOT GOING

41:32TO.

41:32>> LET ANY KIND OF UH.

41:35OF UH PROBLEM THAT EXISTS OR

41:37CHALLENGE THAT IS CONTINUING TO

41:40TO DETER US FROM THAT DIRECTION

41:42.

41:42SO SO THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW,

41:44THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING.

41:45BUT PART OF THAT MESSAGE WOULD

41:47ALSO BE THAT WE'RE.

41:50MOVING AWAY FROM A.

41:51CITY WHERE WE ARE US AND THEN

41:53THERE.

41:54>> THE OTHERS.

41:55AND SECTION EIGHT.

41:58SOMETIMES IS IS UH IS

42:00APPROACHED BY SOME SECTORS AS

42:02THE OTHER KNOW SECTION EIGHT IS

42:03US.

42:04AND SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE

42:06MESSAGE THAT.

42:07THAT HAS TO BE MADE AT LEAST ON

42:09A PRELIMINARY LEVEL.

42:10>> I MEAN THERE COULD BE OTHER

42:11PROBLEMATIC THINGS BUT AT A.

42:12PRELIMINARY LEVEL WE HAVE TO

42:14STATE A FLAG.

42:16ON THE.

42:16>> GROUND AND.

42:16SAY WHEN WE'RE.

42:17>> GOING TO BE A CITY THAT.

42:19IS CONTINUE.

42:19TO MAKE RACIAL AND ECONOMIC.

42:21PROGRESS BECAUSE THAT.

42:23IS REALLY THE MEANING OF A

42:24GREAT CITY.

42:25UM, I WANT TO THANK UM,

42:29COUNCILOR CULPEPPER FOR ALL

42:30YOUR YEARS OF WORK AND FAIR

42:32HOUSING BUT FOR THIS QUESTION

42:33AND I HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC

42:36ANSWER ABOUT SECTION EIGHT

42:37DISCRIMINATION, THE SUFFOLK

42:39STUDY WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE

42:41KNEW THAT SECTION EIGHT UH

42:44HOLDERS WERE BEING DENIED

42:45HOUSING UNLAWFULLY.

42:47OUR STATE LAW SAYS YOU CANNOT

42:50DENY HOUSING TO SOMEONE BECAUSE

42:52THEY HAVE A RENTAL SUBSIDY.

42:54I'VE WORKED ON THAT FOR YEARS

42:56AND YEARS.

42:57SO WHAT SHOULD THE CITY DO?

43:00VHA GIVES OUT SECTION EIGHT UH

43:03VOUCHERS.

43:03THEY HOLD SESSIONS FOR PEOPLE

43:06LOOKING FOR HOUSING.

43:07WHY DON'T THEY HAVE PEOPLE COME

43:10TO THEM EVERY TIME THEY GO AND

43:12TRY TO GET HOUSING AND ARE TOLD

43:15WE DON'T TAKE SECTION EIGHT?

43:16WHY DOESN'T VHA KEEP A RECORD

43:19OF ALL THOSE LANDLORDS AND

43:22HOUSING PROVIDERS THAT DENY

43:25HOUSING TO SECTION EIGHT

43:26CERTIFICATES?

43:26AND WHY DOESN'T THE CITY SUE

43:28THOSE LANDLORDS AND SUE THOSE

43:32HOUSING PROVIDERS AND A LOT

43:33OF THEM ARE LARGE HOUSING

43:35PROVIDERS.

43:36I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF TWO AND

43:38THREE FAMILY UH UNITS, BUT SOME

43:41ARE BIG HOUSING PROVIDERS IN MY

43:43DAY SOME OF THE BIG RENTAL

43:46COMPANIES WOULD RAISE THEIR

43:48RENTS $5 ABOVE THE FAIR MARKET

43:51RENTS THAT HUD WOULD PAY FOR

43:54SECTION EIGHT BRANDS AND THEN

43:55THEY WOULD KEEP PEOPLE OUT.

43:57SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A

43:59MORE AGGRESSIVE POLICY OVERALL

44:02FOR THE CITY AND SORRY I GET

44:06WORKED UP ABOUT THAT.

44:09UM.

44:09>> IT WAS JUST.

44:09THAT THERE COULD BE MORE.

44:10COORDINATION WITH.

44:11>> THE STATE OFFICE OF FAIR

44:12HOUSING AND ENSURING THAT YOU

44:14KNOW, AS IN TERMS OF OUR

44:16ADVOCACY GROUP, YOU KNOW, WE

44:17KNOW THAT UM, ACE AND OTHERS

44:19THEY'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT

44:20THAT SOON THE.

44:21COORDINATION AND THE ROLE.

44:22>> THAT THE STATE OFFICE PLAYS

44:24AND ALSO FRANKLY HAVING MAYBE A

44:25MORE INDEPENDENT OFFICE THAT'S

44:27JUST COMMUNITY BASED THAT CAN

44:28DO THAT WORK, UM, TO, YOU KNOW,

44:30HELP SUPPORT WHAT THE CITY

44:31MIGHT NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY UM

44:33,IF THAT'S THE ISSUE.

44:35LINKING.

44:37>> YEAH.

44:38>> SO YOU KIND.

44:39OF TOOK US TO THE POINT UM,

44:40NEEDING UH NEEDING UM MADE SO.

44:45WE KNOW THIS INTUITIVELY THAT.

44:47>> THIS IS.

44:48>> HAPPENING I MEAN THE THE

44:49STUDY COME ON.

44:51I THINK UM A SUFFOLK.

44:55UM FOR.

44:55>> THE FOR THE STUDY BUT IT

44:57DIDN'T REVEAL SOMETHING THAT WE

44:59IN THIS FIELD IN THIS SPACE

45:00DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW.

45:02I THINK A LARGE.

45:03>> PART OF THIS I MEAN, YOU SEE

45:04ADVERTISEMENT EVERY DAY, UH,

45:05THAT VIOLATES A FAIR HOUSING

45:07PRACTICES.

45:07YOU KNOW, UM, WE DON'T WE DON'T

45:09ACCEPT, UH, CHILDREN ALL THIS

45:11KIND OF STUFF THAT REALLY

45:12VIOLATES A FAIR HOUSING LAWS.

45:14BUT THE.

45:15ISSUE IS SOMEWHAT NETTING AND

45:16OUR MONUMENTS AND IT'S REALLY

45:17ONE ENFORCEMENT.

45:18HOW DO YOU CREATE A MECHANISM

45:20WHERE YOU KNOW THIS IS

45:21HAPPENING?

45:23UM, BUT THERE UM.

45:25LIKE THERE IS NO DISINCENTIVE

45:29WITHIN ALLOWING LANDLORDS TO

45:31VIOLATE THESE KIND OF HOUSING

45:33PRACTICES AND UNTIL WE KIND

45:34OF CHANGE, UH, CREATE A

45:36MECHANISM TO ENFORCE FAIR

45:37HOUSING LAWS AND PRACTICES,

45:38THIS WOULD JUST UH,

45:40UNFORTUNATELY CONTINUE.

45:41SO HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU CREATE

45:42A MECHANISM THAT THAT ENFORCES

45:43A POLICY AND IT'S NOT EVERYONE

45:45BUT WHAT CREATING NEW POLICIES

45:47IS THE HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THE

45:48POLICY THAT'S ALREADY ON THE

45:49BOOKS?

45:50SO THAT I THINK IS WHAT UM WE

45:51NEED TO GET BETTER AT.

45:53THANK YOU.

45:54>> THANK YOU,

45:55COUNCILOR CULPEPER

45:55COUNCILMEMBER HERE YOU HAVE

45:57FIVE MINUTES.

45:59THAT WAS THAT.

46:00DON'T STOP MY OKAY.

46:01THERE WE GO.

46:02THANK YOU.

46:02CHAIR EVERY MINUTE COUNT.

46:04UH, NOT FOR REAL.

46:06WELL.

46:06>> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.

46:08I AM SO GLAD THAT I'M HERE

46:10TODAY AND I.

46:10REALLY DO APPRECIATE.

46:12UM, OUR MONEY.

46:13REALLY LAYING DOWN THE

46:14FOUNDATION IN TERMS OF WHAT

46:15RACIAL EQUITY, UM, REALLY NEEDS

46:18TO LOOK LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, IF

46:19WE'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT

46:20UPLIFTING BLACK AND BROWN

46:21PEOPLE, THESE ARE THE

46:22OPPORTUNITIES FOR US AS A

46:24COUNCIL TO SHOW AND DEMONSTRATE

46:25WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE'RE

46:27SERIOUS ABOUT.

46:28UM.

46:28>> THAT BUSINESS.

46:29SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE ALL

46:30OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE TODAY AND

46:32I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE ALL

46:33TAKING NOTES IN TERMS OF WHAT

46:35WE NEED TO DO.

46:35SO THANK YOU ALL FOR LAYING

46:36DOWN THE FOUNDATION.

46:38AND I WAS AS YOU ARE WE'RE

46:40TALKING.

46:40I WAS ALREADY TAKING NOTES AND

46:42I.

46:42AND I GUESS BECAUSE IT AFFIRMS

46:45FOR.

46:45ME THAT I'M ALSO ON THE RIGHT

46:47TRACK WHEN IT COMES TO THIS

46:48BECAUSE ONE OF.

46:48>> THE QUESTIONS THAT I UM HAD

46:50IS REALLY ABOUT I ALWAYS SAY

46:52THAT BOSTON IS.

46:52RESOURCE RICH BUT COORDINATION

46:53POOR AND WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH

46:56TO REALLY UH.

46:57>> FIND THE INTERSECTION.

46:58SO I TALKED ABOUT.

46:59WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT HOUSING

47:00YOU KNOW, THE WORKFORCE IS.

47:02>> IS DEFINITELY.

47:03>> PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

47:04AT BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

47:06I'M HAPPY TO.

47:06SEE BRANDY HERE.

47:07HIGHER GROUND HAS BEEN DOING A

47:08LOT OF WORK AROUND THE

47:09DISPLACEMENT OF.

47:10OUR STUDENTS PUBLIC HEALTH AND

47:11PUBLIC SAFETY.

47:12AND I THINK AS WE CONTINUE TO

47:14HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WHAT

47:16ROLE UM, THE CITY PLAY IN

47:19HELPING THOSE DEPARTMENTS

47:19UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNICATION

47:21THAT THEY SHOULD BE SHARING

47:22WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

47:23WHEN THEY'RE INTERFACING WITH

47:25OUR CONSTITUENTS?

47:26AND I THINK THAT THAT IS ALSO

47:28AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE

47:29CONVERSATION BECAUSE.

47:30EQUITY AND FAIR HOUSING HAS TO.

47:33BE THE ENTIRE CITY, NOT JUST A

47:35FEW DEPARTMENTS.

47:35SO I'M REALLY.

47:36ON BOARD.

47:37WITH THAT.

47:39SO THREE QUESTIONS.

47:40I'D LIKE TO KNOW.

47:42UM WHAT WOULD SUCCESS LOOK.

47:44>> LIKE IF WE GOT THIS RIGHT?

47:46UM I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW WOULD

47:47YOU.

47:48MEASURE THAT SUCCESS?

47:49AND I KNOW THE.

47:50RESEARCHERS HERE PROBABLY HAVE

47:52SOME ANSWERS FOR ME.

47:53JAMES.

47:54UM, AND IF.

47:55>> YOU.

47:55HAD.

47:55TO GIVE THE CITY OR, YOU KNOW,

47:57GIVE US A GRADE.

47:58IN THIS MOMENT.

48:00WE'D BE AN.

48:01A-PLUS STUDENT.

48:02I WE LIKE D WE C NEEDS

48:05IMPROVEMENT.

48:05I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT GRADE YOU

48:06WOULD GIVE US.

48:07UM, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION

48:11IS HOW ARE WE?

48:12HOW'S THE CITY CURRENTLY

48:14COMMUNICATING GIVEN THE FACT

48:15THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A

48:16CONSISTENT UM.

48:18UH.

48:19>> THE STAFFING TRANSITIONS,

48:20YOU KNOW, AND.

48:21AND UH, LOSING.

48:22BOB AND THEN JUST ALL THE FITS

48:23AND STARTS THAT WE'VE.

48:24HAD UM, HOW HAS THAT.

48:26COMMUNICATION BEEN.

48:28AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO

48:30IMPROVE THAT?

48:30THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

48:31I'LL GO FIRST TO TAKE THE.

48:33>> EASY PART AND LEAVE THE

48:34HARD.

48:34PART FOR MY COLLEAGUES.

48:36AND I.

48:37>> GUESS THE EASY PART IN ONE

48:39SENSE.

48:39>> IS UH, METRICS.

48:41I MEAN ANYTHING WE DO SHOULD.

48:43BE SHOULD BE.

48:44MEASURABLE SHOULDN'T BE UH.

48:46AND NOT JUST BY.

48:48>> HARD DATA BY THE WAY, BUT

48:49ALSO.

48:49>> BY THE STORIES THAT.

48:50>> WE HEAR IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

48:51UH, BUT BUT THE ASSESSMENT

48:54OF FAIR HOUSING.

48:55ACTUALLY HAS A WHOLE SET

48:56OF METRICS FOR ALL OF THESE

48:57GOALS.

48:58>> FOR THE 14 GOALS.

48:59>> THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE

49:00MEASURED.

49:01SO WHEN WE MEET AS A MODERATE.

49:02COMMITTEE, UH.

49:04WE GO OVER.

49:05>> THOSE GOALS.

49:05AND THE ACTUAL.

49:07MEASURES AND THE DEAN

49:08HIGHLIGHTED TO.

49:09BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS

49:10DONE AN EXCELLENT.

49:11JOB IN LOOKING AT THOSE METRICS

49:12AND.

49:12DEVELOPING UH, STATS AND

49:14SPREADSHEETS AND SO SO.

49:16ANYTHING WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO

49:19DO ANYTHING WE SAY WE.

49:20UH, HOPE TO SEE.

49:22UH WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT

49:24ARE THE.

49:24METRICS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT

49:26GOAL.

49:27WHAT ARE THE METRICS ASSOCIATED

49:29WITH THAT OBJECTIVE?

49:30AND THEN OVER A PERIOD OF TIME

49:31AND THE AUDIT DOES THIS TO A

49:33CERTAIN EXTENT TOWARDS THE NEXT

49:35THAT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WE

49:37SEE.

49:37YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME

49:38IMPROVEMENT HERE THERE'S BEEN

49:40SOME IMPROVEMENT THERE.

49:41BUT THE METRICS.

49:42>> ARE ALSO IMPORTANT UH TO UH.

49:45TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND

49:47WHAT.

49:47>> THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE ARE.

49:48AND IF I DON'T HAVE.

49:50WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY

49:51SIDETRACKING BUT LET ME.

49:52>> SAY IT ANYWAY WE HAVE A LOT

49:54OF.

49:54DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.

49:56SO IF DEVELOPMENT.

49:57AND NOTHING.

49:59>> SHOULD BE.

49:59EXCLUSIVE BUT IF.

50:00DEVELOPMENT IS UH.

50:02>> LET'S SAY.

50:02LEANING TOWARDS ONE BEDROOM

50:04STUDIO APARTMENTS.

50:06WELL THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT

50:07THE DATA AND SAY.

50:08WHO'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY

50:10THAT?

50:10LEANING TOWARDS ONE BEDROOM IN

50:12A STUDIO.

50:13APARTMENT ASIDE FROM THE

50:16REASONS FOR THAT, FOR THE

50:17MOMENT.

50:17WE HAVE.

50:18IN BOSTON CENSUS TRACKS.

50:20WE HAVE.

50:21FAMILIES WITH A GOOD 30 TO.

50:24>> 50% OF ALL THE FAMILIES.

50:25>> AND.

50:25A WHOLE BUNCH OF CENSUS TRACKS

50:27HAVE FOUR PERSONS OR MORE AND

50:29SO AND SO.

50:30WHO'S BEING LEFT OUT ONCE WE

50:32LEAN.

50:33TOWARDS THIS POLICY OR THIS

50:34APPROACH.

50:35AND A FAIR HOUSING.

50:36>> GOAL IS UH IS BASED ON

50:39METRICS IT HAS TO BE BASED ON

50:41METRICS AND A.

50:42FAIR HOUSING.

50:42LENS ALLOW US TO ASK QUESTIONS

50:45BUT.

50:45WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS.

50:47OF THIS DECISION OR THIS

50:49DECISION FOR AGAIN.

50:50WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT.

50:51TEN FAMILIES.

50:52WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS

50:54OF PEOPLE.

50:54IN THE CITY OF BOSTON.

50:55YEAH I GUESS UH.

50:57HOW DO WE WE CAN ALSO.

50:59MEASURE AND JUST.

50:59>> DO THAT IS IN THESE

51:01QUARTERLY REPORTS.

51:02YOU KNOW.

51:03>> IT'S BY DEPARTMENT THERE'S

51:04LIKE YOU KNOW FIVE, 612

51:06DIFFERENT GOALS AND THEY HAVE

51:07HAVE THEY STARTED HAVE THEY NOT

51:09STARTED WE SHOULD SEE STARTED

51:10ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE

51:11GOALS AT THE VERY LEAST RIGHT.

51:13WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED UH MOST

51:15OF THEM WE HAVE YOU KNOW WE'VE

51:16HEARD.

51:17I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY.

51:18UH QUARTERS NOW IT WAS AGO THAT

51:19WE MET.

51:20UM, HOW LONG AGO?

51:20THE LAST ONE WAS BUT IT'S BEEN

51:22A WHILE AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY

51:23LIKE ISD HAS JUST FAILED TO

51:25START ANYTHING, RIGHT?

51:27LIKE WE TALK ABOUT THE PLAN

51:29THAT MEETING JUST MENTIONED

51:29ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE A

51:32LIST THAT'S ONE OF THE ISD'S

51:33DIRECTIVES UNDER THE UNDER FAIR

51:34HOUSING THAT THEY JUST HAVEN'T

51:35STARTED.

51:36AND SO THAT WOULD BE A GREAT

51:37EASY EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING TO

51:38MOVE ON.

51:39UM, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO

51:41ESTABLISH A REGISTRY OR

51:42DATABASE THAT WILL INCLUDE

51:43INFORMATION ON FAIR HOUSING AND

51:44YOU KNOW, UH YOU KNOW, HEALTH

51:46CODE VIOLATIONS AND VIOLATIONS.

51:47WE JUST HAVEN'T STARTED IT AND

51:49WE CAN GO, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENT

51:50BY DEPARTMENT AND LIST THINGS

51:51THAT JUST HAVEN'T BEEN STARTED.

51:51AND I THINK THAT COULD BE A

51:53REAL TANGIBLE WAY TO DO IT.

51:54AND I THINK IT'S THE GREAT

51:55QUESTION IS HARD YOU KNOW WHAT

51:57OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THIS.

51:58SO GRADES ARE USUALLY BY YOUR

51:59PEERS SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY

52:01OTHER CITIES DOING IT.

52:01NOPE I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW

52:02ENOUGH TO GIVE A GRADE SO I'LL

52:04SAY THAT BUT UM I THINK THEY

52:05COULD BE DOING BETTER BUT.

52:07UM NEEDS IMPROVEMENT.

52:08IT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT FOR SURE.

52:10UM AND UM AGAIN HOW WOULD WE

52:12MEASURE THAT?

52:13OUR COMMITTEE MEETS QUARTERLY

52:15AND WE HEAR THESE UPDATES.

52:16WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE

52:17REGULAR CHECK INS WITH OUR YOU

52:19KNOW, COUNCILORS WHO ARE

52:19CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TO SHARE

52:20HOW WE FEEL AND MAKE SURE YOU

52:22ALL ARE BACKING US UP ON THAT.

52:23SO I THINK THAT'S A TANGIBLE

52:24WAY.

52:25UH, I'LL JUST ASK GREAT GREAT.

52:28QUESTION AND I DON'T WANT US TO

52:30REINVENT THE WHEEL.

52:32WE HAVE HOW MANY PAGE

52:35ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

52:36HUNDRED PAGES OR SOME 200 PAGES

52:40WITH HOW MANY.

52:40GOALS?

52:421414 SPECIFIC GOALS.

52:45SO SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE

52:47IMPLEMENTING THE ASSESSMENT

52:48OF FAIR HOUSING AND MONITORING

52:52THE SUCCESS OF THOSE UM UH,

52:56CATEGORIES THAT ARE BEING

52:58EVALUATED AND MAYBE CHANGING

52:59THEM BASED ON CONDITIONS.

53:01SO I THINK AND I THINK IT LAYS

53:04OUT HOW YOU MEASURE IT.

53:06UM AND I JUST DON'T WANT.

53:09>> US TO GO BACK.

53:09FROM THE BEGINNING WE SPENT

53:11YEARS GETTING THAT.

53:13YEAH.

53:13>> NO THANK YOU.

53:14I GET THE CHAIR'S GIVING ME THE

53:16SIDE I.

53:16>> AM.

53:17DONE FOR MY QUESTIONS.

53:18I WAIT FOR MY SECOND ROUND.

53:19THANK YOU.

53:19THANK YOU COUNCIL I'M HERE OKAY

53:22NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO IN ORDER

53:24OF ARRIVAL STARTING WITH

53:26COUNCILOR FLYNN.

53:29THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

53:30THANK YOU TO THE.

53:31PANEL FOR THE INFORMATIVE

53:33TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING

53:35BUT ALSO YOUR LEADERSHIP ON ON

53:37THIS ISSUE.

53:38LISTEN CLOSELY TO TO ALL

53:40OF YOU.

53:41UM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR

53:44LEADERSHIP.

53:45UM, MY MY QUESTION MAYBE IS AS

53:50IT RELATES TO THE THE EQUITY

53:52AUDIT BUT IS IF THE CITY IS

53:56STALLED ON THE AUDIT, IS IT

53:58NECESSARY FOR YOU TO HAVE THE

54:00AUDIT TO UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY

54:02WHAT IS TAKING PLACE OR AND OR

54:07CAN ANY UM ORGANIZATIONS HELP

54:12WITH THE AUDIT IN THE MEANTIME

54:14WHILE IT'S BEING STALLED?

54:16COMMUNITY PARTNERS UH COMMUNITY

54:17PARTNERS ABLE TO HELP WITH THE

54:18AUDIT.

54:20I CAN.

54:20>> SAY THAT THE THERE ARE A

54:22NUMBER OF THINGS THAT CAN BE

54:23DONE OUTSIDE OF THE AUDIT.

54:25SO WE HAVE THE ASSESSMENT WHICH

54:26HAS ALL THESE GOALS WHICH AS WE

54:28TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW YOU CAN

54:29KIND OF GO AND STUDY YOU KNOW

54:30EACH ONE OF THEM.

54:31BUT ASIDE FROM THAT THERE'S

54:33THIS AUDIT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO

54:34BE DONE.

54:34AND SO IF THE AUDIT IS

54:37HAPPENING THERE'S ALL THESE

54:38GOALS THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE

54:39MEANTIME.

54:39AND THEN IN TERMS OF UH

54:40ORGANIZATIONS LIKE A LOT

54:43OF ORGANIZATIONS.

54:43ARE PART OF.

54:44THE WORK THAT WE DO A PART

54:45OF THIS.

54:45SO I THINK WE'RE ALL KIND

54:46OF HAVE OUR EYE ON IT.

54:47UM AND SO YEAH.

54:50YES, SIR.

54:51SO I THINK THAT UM CERTAINLY

54:53ORGANIZATIONS CAN HELP BUT I

54:55YOU.

54:55KNOW, IT'S UM.

54:57IN ORDER TO.

54:57ARRIVE AT ANY KIND OF SOLUTION

54:59FOR ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO FIRST

55:00NAME THE PROBLEM AND PART

55:02OF YOU KNOW SO WE AGAIN

55:04EXISTING IN THIS HOUSING SPACE

55:06AND THE SPACE ON EQUITY I MEAN

55:08BOSTON HAS A HISTORY IT'S NOT

55:09LIKE UM WE JUST GOT UP THIS

55:11MORNING AND THIS MOVED TO

55:12BOSTON.

55:12BUT BOSTON HAS A HISTORY AS IT

55:13RELATES TO THIS KIND OF ISSUES.

55:15SO WE KNEW INTUITIVELY THAT

55:16SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE IN

55:17PLACE.

55:17BUT IF YOU HAVE A BODY LIKE SAY

55:19THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHO HAS

55:20A HUGE ROLE IN MITIGATING SOME

55:22OF THESE SOME OF THESE KIND

55:23OF CONCERNS, UM, PART.

55:25OF THE.

55:26EFFORT TO.

55:27KIND OF CREATE SOLUTIONS, UM.

55:30THAT IMPROVE PEOPLE'S.

55:31QUALITY OF LIFE IS FOR YOU AT

55:33LEAST WHAT UM ANY KIND OF ROLE

55:36THAT YOU MAY BE PLAYING IN

55:38THAT.

55:38THAT THAT DETRACTS FROM THAT

55:40BECAUSE IN SO DOING THAT YOU

55:41CAN IDENTIFY SOLUTIONS

55:43STRATEGIES THAT ACTUALLY UM.

55:45HELP YOU TO MEET GOALS.

55:48>> WHICH WE PRESUME THE GOAL

55:49WOULD.

55:50BE TO ENSURE.

55:51THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE UM WHERE

55:54TO CHOOSE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON

55:55UH, CONSTANTLY ASK EARLY WHAT

55:56WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE

55:58WHEN WE SPEAK IN UH IN UM IN

56:00THE CONTEXT OF EQUITY AND FOR

56:02YOUR HOUSING SUCCESS LOOKS

56:03LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'RE, UM,

56:05RESIDENTS OF BOSTON BEING ABLE

56:07TO LIVE WITH THEIR CHOOSE, YOU

56:08KNOW, UM, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT

56:11HAPPENS RIGHT NOW.

56:12PEOPLE CAN'T PEOPLE.

56:14>> ARE.

56:14MOVING BROCKTON, FALL RIVER, UM

56:17,RANDOLPH ALL THESE KIND

56:18OF PLACES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T

56:19AFFORD TO LIVE IN BOSTON FOR

56:21WHOLE LOTS OF DIFFERENT

56:21REASONS.

56:22UM, YOU KNOW, SO SUCCESS WOULD

56:23LOOK LIKE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO

56:24LIVE WITH EACH OTHER THE CITY

56:26OF BOSTON.

56:27BUT UM, IN TERMS OF OTHER OTHER

56:29ORGANIZATIONS KIND OF HELPING

56:30RUN THE EQUITY EQUITY AUDIT THE

56:32PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS A HUGE

56:33ROLE IN TERMS OF UM, CREATING

56:36POLICIES AROUND THAT PIECE AND

56:37IF YOU CAN'T I UM NAME AND

56:39IDENTIFY WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE

56:41.

56:41YOU CAN'T REALLY CREATE

56:42SOLUTIONS.

56:42SO THE EQUITY AUDIT IS

56:43INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IN THAT

56:45REGARD BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A

56:46UM A BLUEPRINT ON THE FLOOR

56:48PLAN RELATIVE TO HOW YOU GO

56:49ABOUT DOING THAT AND ARE YOU

56:50GOING TO OWN YOUR ROLE IN ANY

56:52THIS KIND OF ISSUES THAT THAT

56:53ARE IN PLACE?

56:54SO UM THANK YOU.

56:55THE FACT THAT IS.

56:56IMPORTANT IF I COULD ADD ONE

56:57THING REAL QUICK OKAY.

56:57YEAH.

56:58IS THAT IN OTHER CITIES THAT

56:59THEY ARE DOING AND USING THEIR

57:01AUDITS TO TO ACTUALLY DEFEND

57:02THE CITY'S COMMITMENTS TO A

57:05FAMILY FURTHER FAIR HOUSING

57:06AGAINST ATTACKS FROM THE

57:07FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION.

57:08SO IT'S ONE PIECE ONE TIDBIT I

57:10THINK OTHERS WILL TALK.

57:10>> MORE ABOUT THAT LATER.

57:11GOOD POINT.

57:12>> UM, I ALSO WANT TO

57:13ACKNOWLEDGE ONE OF THE

57:14PANELISTS MENTIONED THE WORK

57:16OF UM FORMER CITY

57:18COUNCILOR WOODY EDWARDS ON THIS

57:20ISSUE.

57:20I ALSO AGREE SHE WAS REALLY A

57:22CHAMPION HERE ON THE CITY

57:23COUNCIL.

57:24BUT I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE

57:25ATTORNEY PEPPER HIS ENTIRE

57:27CAREER OF WORKING ON THIS

57:29ISSUE.

57:29SO THANK YOU COUNCILOR COLE

57:31PEPPER I DO THINK ONCE WE GET

57:34AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR UM AT

57:36FAIR HOUSING WE WAS A

57:38TREMENDOUS LOSS WITH BOB

57:40TERRELL AN OUTSTANDING

57:41DEDICATED CITY EMPLOYEE.

57:42BUT ONCE WE DO GET A AN

57:45EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MUCH

57:46OF THIS WORK CAN GO FORWARD.

57:48I THINK THAT WOULD DEPEND ON,

57:51UH, RESOURCES.

57:52OF COURSE.

57:53YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON IS NOT A

57:55PANACEA, UH, NO MATTER HOW.

57:57FABULOUS THAT PERSON IS.

57:59SO THE RESOURCES IS GOING TO BE

58:00VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ALONG THE

58:01LINES THAT WE'VE BEEN

58:02DISCUSSING.

58:03THE THE CHALLENGE AGAIN HERE

58:05FOR THE CITY OF.

58:06BOSTON ONE IS.

58:07>> HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD?

58:08HOW DO WE PROTECT.

58:09WHAT WE.

58:10HAVE ALREADY GAINED, BUT HOW DO

58:12WE CONTINUE RAISING PUBLIC.

58:13AWARENESS ABOUT WHAT

58:14AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

58:16HOUSING IS?

58:16AND THAT FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR

58:18HAS TO HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL THE

58:19RESOURCES TO HAVE THAT

58:21CONVERSATION ACROSS THE CITY

58:22AND ACTUALLY THE ENTIRE REGION

58:24IN MY OPINION.

58:25THANK THANK YOU.

58:27MY TIME IS ABOUT UP.

58:28I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO MY

58:30COLLEAGUES.

58:30I DON'T WANT TO ASK ANY

58:31QUESTIONS AFTER MY TIME IS UP.

58:32THANK YOU MR CHAIR.

58:33THANK YOU COUNCILOR I JUST

58:35WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE

58:36BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR.

58:37THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

58:39OKAY.

58:40NOW WE WILL MOVE ON WITH

58:41COUNCILOR AND MURPHY.

58:42THANK YOU.

58:44UM.

58:44THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS.

58:46I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

58:48HAVE THIS HEARING TODAY.

58:50SO THANK YOU TO THE CHAIR AND

58:51THE LEAD SPONSORS FOR BRINGING

58:53THIS FORWARD.

58:54AND ALSO YOU MENTIONED

58:55COUNCILOR ARROYO AND I USE FROM

58:57THE OTHER SPONSORS OFFICE TO

58:58YOUR OFFICE FOR WORKING CLOSELY

59:00WITH THE ADVOCATES, MAKING SURE

59:03THAT WE GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN

59:05FRONT OF US SO WE CAN ASK THE

59:07RIGHT QUESTIONS AND HEAR FROM

59:08YOU DIRECTLY WHAT WE CAN BE

59:10DOING, WHAT I CAN BE DOING MORE

59:11TO SUPPORT THIS UM THE CITY HAS

59:14MADE SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENTS

59:16AROUND AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

59:17FAIR HOUSING BUT COMMITMENTS

59:19HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED BY

59:21IMPLEMENTATION, MEASUREMENT AND

59:23ACCOUNTABILITY.

59:24BOSTON'S ASSESSMENT OF FAIR

59:25HOUSING WAS THE RESULT OF YEARS

59:27OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND

59:29THE 2022 EXECUTIVE ORDER GAVE

59:31THE OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AN

59:33IMPORTANT ROLE IN MONITORING

59:34HOW CITY DEPARTMENTS CARRY OUT

59:35THOSE GOALS.

59:36BUT BOSTON HAS CHANGED

59:39CONSIDERABLY SINCE MUCH OF THAT

59:40COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TOOK PLACE

59:41.

59:42HOUSING COSTS HAVE CONTINUED TO

59:43RISE, DISPLACEMENT PRESSURES

59:45HAVE INTENSIFIED IN PARTS

59:48OF THE CITY AND THE CITY ITSELF

59:49HAS NOW DEVELOPED A RESIDENTIAL

59:51DISPLACEMENT RISK MAP TO BETTER

59:54UNDERSTAND WHERE RESIDENTS ARE

59:54MOST VULNERABLE.

59:56WE ALSO KNOW THAT LONG STANDING

59:59DISPARITIES IN ACCESS TO

1:00:00HOMEOWNERSHIP REMAIN

1:00:02SIGNIFICANT.

1:00:03RECENT BOSTON FOUNDATION DATA

1:00:04SHOW HOME OWNERSHIP RATES

1:00:06OF ROUGHLY 73% FOR WHITE

1:00:10HOUSEHOLDS, COMPARED WITH 40%

1:00:12FOR BLACK HOUSEHOLDS AND 37%

1:00:14FOR LATINO HOUSEHOLDS IN

1:00:16GREATER BOSTON.

1:00:17THOSE GAPS REFLECT DECADES

1:00:19OF EXCLUSION AND DISCRIMINATION

1:00:21IN HOUSING AND LENDING.

1:00:23SO FOR ME TODAY THIS HEARING IS

1:00:26REALLY ABOUT SOME

1:00:26STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTIONS WHERE

1:00:28ARE WE NOW?

1:00:29WHAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN

1:00:31IMPLEMENTED, WHAT REMAINS

1:00:32UNFINISHED AND WHAT IS THE

1:00:34TIMELINE FOR THE NEXT PHASE

1:00:35OF THIS WORK?

1:00:36MANY OF YOU HAVE KIND

1:00:37OF TOUCHED ON A LOT OF THAT

1:00:39WITH YOUR I THINK VERY STRONG

1:00:41AND YOU KNOW, UM, GOOD UM,

1:00:46OVERALL LIKE OPENING.

1:00:47STATEMENTS AND SHARING IN THE

1:00:48QUESTIONS THAT SOME OF MY

1:00:49COUNCILORS HAVE ALREADY ASKED.

1:00:52ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WHICH I

1:00:53KNOW WE'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON.

1:00:55FILLING THOSE OPEN.

1:00:56VACANCIES IS IMPORTANT BUT

1:00:57THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

1:00:58ONE THING I THINK WE COULD

1:01:01START UM WITH MY TIME HERE IS

1:01:03IF WE CAME BACK HERE ONE YEAR

1:01:05FROM TODAY, WHAT SPECIFIC

1:01:07MEASURABLE CHANGES SHOULD WE

1:01:08EXPECT TO SEE THAT WOULD

1:01:10DEMONSTRATE BOSTON IS MAKING

1:01:12MEANINGFUL PROGRESS IN

1:01:14AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

1:01:16HOUSING.

1:01:21UM, I'LL JUST SAY I THINK A.

1:01:24>> LOT OF THE THINGS WE SAID IT

1:01:26WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD AN

1:01:27EQUITY AUDIT THAT REALLY LOOKED

1:01:29AT ALL THE UH, CITY DEPARTMENTS

1:01:32AND SEE HOW WELL WE ARE DOING

1:01:35ON IMPLEMENTING A SFH.

1:01:37UH, IF WE HAD A DIRECTOR AT THE

1:01:39FAIR HOUSING OFFICE AND UH

1:01:43STAFF AND THEY TOOK LEADERSHIP

1:01:46OFF OF THIS, IF WE HAD A PERSON

1:01:49COORDINATING THE FAIR HOUSING

1:01:51WORK, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP.

1:01:52US UM UH LOOK AT IT AND ALSO.

1:01:57TO ENSURE.

1:01:58THAT UM, I THINK ARMANI SAID

1:02:00THIS IN THE VERY BEGINNING.

1:02:02THAT UM, HOW.

1:02:05FAIR HOUSING SHAPES DEVELOPMENT

1:02:07DECISIONS IN THIS CITY.

1:02:09I KNOW THERE WERE LOTS

1:02:11OF CONCERNS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT

1:02:13WHO.

1:02:14ARE THE.

1:02:14NEW WHO IS THE NEW HOUSING FOR

1:02:17BUT WE HARDLY EVER SEE IS FAIR

1:02:20HOUSING BEING CONSIDERED WHEN A

1:02:23NEW DEVELOPMENT IS UH, BEING

1:02:26PROPOSED WHETHER IT'S MARKET

1:02:27RATE.

1:02:28OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHAT ARE

1:02:31THE.

1:02:31UM UH.

1:02:32WHAT ARE THE FAIR HOUSING

1:02:35IMPLICATIONS?

1:02:36SO I THINK WE'D LIKE TO.

1:02:37WHAT I WOULD ADD TO THIS.

1:02:40.

1:02:41COUNCILOR READ ALL 200 PAGES

1:02:42AND FELT LIKE AN EXPERT ON FAIR

1:02:44HOUSING LIKE US ADVOCATES AND

1:02:46COULD HELP US SHOW.

1:02:47>> UP TO.

1:02:48THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW,

1:02:49DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS IN THE

1:02:50COMMUNITIES THAT YOU REPRESENT

1:02:51TO ADVOCATE FOR FAIR HOUSING.

1:02:54UM, I THINK ALSO FROM THE CITY

1:02:55ANGLE IT WOULD BE MAKING SURE

1:02:56THAT EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT

1:02:58HAS INITIATED THEIR UM YOU

1:03:01KNOW, THE STEPS THEY NEED TO

1:03:02TAKE.

1:03:02I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN

1:03:03THINGS THAT ARE HARD TO

1:03:04INITIATE THAT WE'VE HEARD LIKE

1:03:06WE ARE TRYING TO CENTRALIZE ALL

1:03:07LIKE YOU GO TO APPLY FOR

1:03:08AFFORDABLE HOUSING OUR

1:03:09ORGANIZATION WE SIT DOWN IN OUR

1:03:11OFFICE, WE WELCOME PEOPLE AND

1:03:12WE HELP THEM WITH THEIR ENERGY

1:03:13BILLS APPLY FOR HOUSING AND ONE

1:03:14THING THAT WE SEE IS YOU HAVE

1:03:16TO SIT THERE AND IT'S A FULL

1:03:17TIME JOB TO HELP SOMEONE APPLY

1:03:18TO LIKE 20 DIFFERENT APPLICANT

1:03:19YOU KNOW APPLICATIONS AND THEN

1:03:21THERE'S A TWO WEEK PERIOD WHERE

1:03:23YOU MIGHT QUALIFY AND THEN YOU

1:03:24KNOW IT'S ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO

1:03:25BE CENTRALIZED.

1:03:26SO WE'RE WORKING WITH WE'VE

1:03:27PUSHED ON THE CITY AS A PART

1:03:28OF THIS ASSESSMENT TO

1:03:29CENTRALIZE THAT THAT TAKES

1:03:30TECHNOLOGY THAT I DON'T KNOW

1:03:32HOW TO CREATE PERSONALLY.

1:03:33RIGHT.

1:03:33THE CITY HAS TO GO OUT AND FIND

1:03:35THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT EXISTS

1:03:36AND THAT TAKES TIME.

1:03:37SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT TAKE

1:03:38TIME BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT

1:03:39DON'T TAKE TIME.

1:03:39AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE

1:03:40THAT IN A YEAR ALL THE THINGS

1:03:42THAT ARE NOT THINGS THAT ARE

1:03:43STOPPED BY ACTUAL REASONS TO

1:03:45STOP ARE MOVING FORWARD AND

1:03:47THAT UM, THERE'S A COORDINATION

1:03:49AND UH AND I THINK I'VE SAID

1:03:50EARLIER THAT THE TRANSPARENCY

1:03:51AROUND WHAT IS HAPPENING I

1:03:52THINK WE'VE SEEN A GOOD REPORT

1:03:53OF FOLKS HAVING READ THEM

1:03:54THERE'S STATUS UPDATES ON THE

1:03:56UM ON THE ROLE THAT THE TICKETS

1:03:58PLAYED IN PUSHING FOR MORE

1:04:00INCLUSIONARY DEVELOPMENT UNITS

1:04:01ON THE ACTUALLY CONCLUSION OUR

1:04:02ZONING IS A BIG PART OF THIS IS

1:04:04HOW WE ASKED DEVELOPERS TO DO

1:04:05MORE TO ACTUALLY UH, FIRMLY

1:04:07FURTHER FAIR HOUSING IS

1:04:08BUILDING MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS

1:04:09.

1:04:09I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A BIG TOPIC.

1:04:10WE NEED TO BUILD MORE OF THEM

1:04:11NOT LESS.

1:04:12AND SO THAT'S A BIG WAY THAT WE

1:04:13IN THE CITY HAS SHOWN THAT

1:04:15THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUSH

1:04:15THROUGH THIS AGENCY TO DO THAT.

1:04:17AND SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

1:04:18YEAH.

1:04:20SO SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT.

1:04:21WOULD REALLY.

1:04:22HELP IS UM YOU KNOW AND AND UH

1:04:25JAMES MENTIONED THAT AN ED IS

1:04:27NOT A PANACEA UM, BECAUSE IT

1:04:29KIND OF ED BY ITSELF WON'T

1:04:30SOLVE A LOT OF YOUR OWN ISSUES.

1:04:32>> THAT'LL HELP.

1:04:32BUT I THINK PART OF THE THE.

1:04:33LARGER ISSUE THOUGH.

1:04:35>> IS THAT UM, YOU COULD ASK

1:04:36ANY CITY DEPARTMENT UH UM, WHAT

1:04:39THE DEFINITION OF FAIR HOUSING

1:04:40EQUITY IS AND EVERYONE WOULD.

1:04:41HAVE A.

1:04:42>> DIFFERENT DIFFERENT

1:04:42DEFINITION.

1:04:43I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE

1:04:44PROBLEM SO THAT THERE HAS TO BE

1:04:46SOME EFFORT TO KIND OF CREATE

1:04:47SOME KIND OF UNIVERSAL

1:04:48UNDERSTANDING A FRAMEWORK WHAT

1:04:50DEFINES UH EQUITY, WHAT DEFINES

1:04:51FAIR HOUSING AND THEN HAVING

1:04:53SOME KIND OF UH SOME KIND

1:04:54OF UNDER UM WHAT SHOULD I SAY

1:04:56SOME KIND OF MANDATE.

1:04:58THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS.

1:04:59ALL ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS

1:05:00BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK WHAT

1:05:02PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO THEIR

1:05:03BEST TO KIND OF RESPOND TO THE

1:05:04THE GOALS AND.

1:05:06A FH.

1:05:07IT STILL.

1:05:08FEELS LIKE UH SILOED IT'S NOT

1:05:09REALLY INTEGRATED INTO A LARGER

1:05:10EQUITY UM UH KIND OF EQUITY

1:05:12MANDATE FOR THE CITY.

1:05:14SO I THINK THAT.

1:05:15>> HAS.

1:05:16TO BE LED BY SOMEONE SOMEONE

1:05:17HAS TO COORDINATE THAT OR

1:05:18SOMEONE HAS TO DEFINE THAT AND

1:05:20ONE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE

1:05:21GOALS UM UH THE 14 GOALS THEY

1:05:23HAVE 14 GOAL CATEGORIES THAT

1:05:24ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND.

1:05:25WHAT IS 14 GOAL CATEGORIES.

1:05:28BUT IT'S.

1:05:29>> OVER 20 GOALS.

1:05:30>> THANK YOU.

1:05:31UM I KNOW MY TIME IS UP BUT ONE

1:05:33BIG TAKEAWAY I THINK IS ALL

1:05:36CITY DEPARTMENTS OFTENTIMES

1:05:38SOMETHING THIS BIG IT DOES TAKE

1:05:40EVERY DEPARTMENT AND I.

1:05:41THINK SOMETIMES LIKE YOU.

1:05:42MENTIONED IT'S NOT THE FAULT

1:05:44OF ANY INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT

1:05:45BUT HOW DO WE AS COUNCIL MAKE

1:05:47SURE THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE.

1:05:49YOU KNOW TOOLED RIGHT.

1:05:51WE GIVE THEM THE TOOLS.

1:05:52>> THEY NEED.

1:05:52AND IF THAT'S YOU KNOW, A

1:05:55MOTTO, YOU KNOW WHATEVER IT IS

1:05:57MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THEIR.

1:05:58DECISIONS BECAUSE MANY TIMES

1:05:59YOU MENTIONED ESD AND OTHER

1:06:01OBVIOUS ONES BUT I DO BELIEVE

1:06:03THAT YOU KNOW ED STRONG OUR

1:06:05COMMUNITY CENTERS, OUR SCHOOL

1:06:06DEPARTMENT EVERY DEPARTMENT

1:06:08PLAYS A.

1:06:09DEEP AND STRONG COMMITMENT AND

1:06:10ROLE IN TO.

1:06:11>> FAIR HOUSING.

1:06:12>> ACROSS THE CITY.

1:06:13SO THANK YOU CHAIR.

1:06:15THANK YOU COUNCILOR BREADON

1:06:17FLOOR IS YOURS.

1:06:21THANK YOU.

1:06:22THANK YOU MR CHAIR AND THANK

1:06:23YOU ALL.

1:06:24THIS IS A GREAT CONVERSATION A

1:06:26VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ONE.

1:06:27UM, I'D LIKE TO HONE IN ON YOU

1:06:29KNOW, THE ARTICLE THE UM THE

1:06:31ZONING AMENDMENT THAT REQUIRES

1:06:33MAJOR RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED

1:06:34USE.

1:06:35DEVELOPMENT TO ASSESS AND

1:06:36MITIGATE DISPLACEMENT RISKS AND

1:06:38HISTORICAL HOUSING EXCLUSION.

1:06:40I THINK WE'VE MANAGED TO ONE

1:06:44OF THE THINGS MY MY MAIDEN

1:06:45SPEECH WHEN I CAME INTO

1:06:47COUNCIL FIRST WAS ABOUT THE

1:06:48IMPORTANCE OF BUILDING FAMILY

1:06:50HOUSING UNITS DIRECTLY DESIGNED

1:06:51AND AMENITIES FOR FAMILIES LIKE

1:06:54AND THAT WAS DRIVEN BY AN

1:06:56EXPERIENCE I HAD ON UM,

1:06:57WITNESSING A DEVELOPMENT

1:06:59PROJECT ON A BIG PROJECT IN

1:07:01BRIGHTON THAT HAD 150 UNITS AND

1:07:04UM, SOMEONE IN THE IN THE

1:07:07COMMUNITY ASKED WELL WHERE'S

1:07:08YOUR PLAYGROUND?

1:07:10AND THEY SAID OUT LOUD IN FRONT

1:07:12OF A BIG CROWD SAID OH WE'RE

1:07:14NOT BUILDING FOR FAMILIES LIKE

1:07:15I THINK THAT'S TECHNICALLY

1:07:17ILLEGAL.

1:07:19BUT ANYWAY UM SO AS TO YOUR

1:07:22POINT EARLIER ABOUT BUILDING

1:07:23STUDIOS ONE BEDROOMS WE I THINK

1:07:25FOR US THE CHALLENGE AND THAT

1:07:27HAS BEEN AND I THINK WE'RE

1:07:29MAKING SOME PROGRESS UH, TO GET

1:07:31DEVELOPERS TO BUILD MORE UM

1:07:33UNITS THAT ARE AT LEAST CAPABLE

1:07:35OF HOUSING A SMALL FAMILY A TWO

1:07:37BEDROOM IS BETTER THAN A

1:07:38STUDIO.

1:07:39AND A THREE BEDROOM IS

1:07:40DEFINITELY BETTER THAN A ONE

1:07:42BEDROOM IF YOU HAVE IF YOU HAVE

1:07:44KIDS.

1:07:44BUT TO YOUR POINT JUST HOW CAN

1:07:48WE HOW CAN WE WHAT'S THE VISION

1:07:51ON HOW TO INTEGRATE FAIR

1:07:52HOUSING ACROSS THE DIFFERENT

1:07:53DEPARTMENTS AND REALLY AND IN

1:07:55THIS MOMENT OF SORT OF REALLY

1:07:57DIFFICULTY IN TERMS OF DRIVING

1:08:00AND GETTING DEVELOPMENT BUILT,

1:08:02UM, HOW CAN WE MANAGE TO

1:08:04NAVIGATE THAT AND STILL INSIST

1:08:06ON OUR IDP UNITS LIKE THE FIRST

1:08:08THING ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK I

1:08:09THINK IS OUR IDP UNITS THAT

1:08:11WE'VE FOUGHT SO HARD TO GET AND

1:08:13WE'VE ALSO FOUGHT TO GET A

1:08:14RANGE OF AFFORDABILITY IN

1:08:16AUSTIN, BRIGHTON IN 2016 2019

1:08:20THE IDP UNITS WERE PEGGED AT

1:08:2170% OF THE AM I EVEN THOUGH THE

1:08:24MEDIAN INCOME IN ALLSTON

1:08:25BRIGHTON WAS WAS 45 TO 50%

1:08:28OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

1:08:30SO WE'RE BUILDING HOUSING THAT

1:08:31NONE OF US KNOW PEOPLE PEOPLE

1:08:33COULDN'T AFFORD IN ALL US IN

1:08:34BRIGHTON.

1:08:34SO UM LIKE HOW DO WE MANAGE

1:08:37THIS MOMENT OF CRISIS LIKE

1:08:39INSIST THAT WE KEEP OUR IDP

1:08:41UNITS AND AND HOPEFULLY GET

1:08:43SOMETHING BUILT BUT ANY

1:08:45THOUGHTS?

1:08:45AND ALSO YOU SAID IN YOUR

1:08:47COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT YOU KNOW

1:08:49,NO REPORTS THAT THERE'S SOME

1:08:52DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE JUST NOT

1:08:53GETTING ANY DATA FROM LIKE I'D

1:08:54LOVE TO GET HEAR MORE ABOUT

1:08:55THAT AS WELL.

1:08:57SO SO THIS IS UH I THINK.

1:09:00>> THE.

1:09:00THE ISSUE THE QUESTION THE

1:09:01CHALLENGE THAT YOU'RE RAISING

1:09:02IS BEING FACED BY CITIES ACROSS

1:09:05THE COUNTRY.

1:09:06OF COURSE.

1:09:08UH UH I GUESS I.

1:09:09>> WOULD HAVE.

1:09:10TWO QUICK RESPONSES BUT THIS IS

1:09:12YOU KNOW, IT WOULD TAKE MUCH

1:09:13MORE THOUGHT TO TO GET AT

1:09:15SOMETHING UH, CONCRETE IN

1:09:17RESPONSE.

1:09:18BUT TWO QUICK.

1:09:20UH THOUGHTS IS ONE UH AS WE AS

1:09:23THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

1:09:26UH UH INDICATES UH.

1:09:28WE HAVE.

1:09:29TO RAISE CONSCIOUSNESS ABOUT

1:09:32HOW.

1:09:32ALL THESE FIELDS.

1:09:34OF LIFE ARE INTERCONNECTED.

1:09:36UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER,

1:09:38HOUSING IS NOT JUST HOUSING.

1:09:39HOUSING IS EVERYTHING.

1:09:40ELSE AND.

1:09:42EVERYTHING ELSE IS HOUSING.

1:09:43AND SO HOW.

1:09:44DO WE TO MEET THE CHALLENGE.

1:09:46>> WOULD BE.

1:09:47>> HOW DO WE.

1:09:47>> GET PEOPLE TO THINK MORE

1:09:48ALONG THAT LINE?

1:09:49CITY LEADERS.

1:09:50>> BUT.

1:09:50ALSO THE CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS

1:09:52UH AND PERHAPS PERHAPS THIS IS

1:09:54A UH QUICK EXAMPLE.

1:09:57UH, IN BOSTON WE HAVE.

1:09:59VERY, VERY HIGH.

1:10:01BLACK AND BROWN YOUTH

1:10:03UNEMPLOYMENT RATES SOMETHING

1:10:04THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT.

1:10:05WE USED TO TALK ABOUT A LOT BUT

1:10:06NOW WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.

1:10:07WHEN YOU LOOK AT.

1:10:08BLACK YOUTH UNEMPLOYMENT.

1:10:10RATES AND LATINO.

1:10:12UH.

1:10:13>> MOSTLY MALES.

1:10:14>> BUT.

1:10:14NOT EXCLUSIVELY MALES

1:10:15UNEMPLOYMENT RATES.

1:10:16THEY STILL ARE 2.

1:10:18>> OR 3 TIMES HIGHER.

1:10:20THAN THE EMPLOYMENT RATES

1:10:21OF COMPARABLE WHITES WHO ARE

1:10:22NOT LATINO OR LATINO.

1:10:24AND SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

1:10:26WELL, HOW WOULD THIS

1:10:29CONSCIOUSNESS OF INTO SECTORAL.

1:10:31THINKING BE DEALT WITH?

1:10:33WELL WE HAVE INVESTMENTS IN

1:10:35PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

1:10:36WE HAVE INVESTMENTS IN ALL

1:10:38KINDS OF THINGS.

1:10:39WHEN DO WE START.

1:10:40ASKING HOW DO WE USE THOSE.

1:10:41INVESTMENTS MAYBE TO INCREASE

1:10:43ACCESS TO APPRENTICESHIP

1:10:44PROGRAMS?

1:10:45HOW DO WE USE.

1:10:46THOSE INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC

1:10:47TRANSPORTATION TO SAY WE.

1:10:49>> WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE.

1:10:50JOBS THAT ARE GENERATED BY IT

1:10:52DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PUBLIC

1:10:54TRANSPORTATION, IT COULD BE

1:10:55HOUSING.

1:10:55I EVALUATED I EVALUATED THE.

1:10:57DEMONSTRATION DISPOSITION

1:10:59PROGRAM AS YOU KNOW, CITY

1:11:01COUNCILOR CULPEPER.

1:11:02AND WE MADE STRONG.

1:11:03CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ANYTHING

1:11:04THAT WAS BEING BUILT.

1:11:06IN SECTION.

1:11:06THREE THAT IS EMPLOYMENT FOR.

1:11:09LOCAL RESIDENTS.

1:11:10AND IT WAS A SUCCESS.

1:11:11AND SO WE HAVE TO START

1:11:12THINKING.

1:11:12MORE ALONG.

1:11:13>> THAT LINES PERHAPS ANOTHER

1:11:15EXAMPLE AND BY.

1:11:16>> THE.

1:11:16WAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

1:11:17UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES THIS IS

1:11:19NOT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT LIKE.

1:11:21THEY'VE BEEN GOING UP AND DOWN.

1:11:22>> THEY'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY A

1:11:23GAP.

1:11:24IN THE.

1:11:25>> CITY OF BOSTON WITH WHITE

1:11:27UNEMPLOYMENT AND WHITE

1:11:28EMPLOYMENT RATES.

1:11:29UH, BUT ANOTHER.

1:11:31EXAMPLE THAT I'VE BEEN THINKING

1:11:33ABOUT LATELY BASED ON SOME.

1:11:35WORK I DID WITH DUDLEY STREET.

1:11:36NEIGHBORHOOD INITIATIVE.

1:11:37>> ON COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND.

1:11:38COMMUNITY WEALTH.

1:11:40IS ONE OF THE FIGURES THAT I

1:11:41CAME ACROSS IS THE NUMBER.

1:11:44>> OF VACANT UNITS IN BOSTON.

1:11:45>> THAT ARE OFF THE MARKET.

1:11:47NOT VACANT UNITS.

1:11:48>> THAT ARE FOR SALE OR FOR

1:11:50RENTING.

1:11:51THEY'RE OFF THE MARKET AND

1:11:52THERE.

1:11:53>> ARE HUNDREDS OF VACANT UNITS

1:11:54.

1:11:54SO HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT THAT

1:11:56AS.

1:11:56A RESOURCE AS AN ASSET?

1:11:58HOW DO WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO

1:11:59WE'RE GOING TO TAKE.

1:12:00ON THOSE VACANT UNITS.

1:12:01AND INVEST IN THOSE VACANT

1:12:03UNITS IN SOME WAY.

1:12:04SOMEHOW THAT'S GOING TO MAKE

1:12:06THE CITY BETTER.

1:12:07SO I'M I GUESS.

1:12:08>> I'M SUGGESTING IT.

1:12:08MAYBE IN.

1:12:09>> A SIMPLISTIC WAY THAT UH

1:12:11THAT'S THE KIND

1:12:12OF CONSCIOUSNESS THAT'S THE

1:12:13KIND OF NARRATIVE THAT'S THE

1:12:14KIND OF DISCUSSIONS WE NEED TO

1:12:15HAVE TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.

1:12:17SO IN TERMS OF NEEDING.

1:12:18IMPROVEMENT THAT WOULD BE MY

1:12:20VOTE.

1:12:22THANK YOU.

1:12:24GO AHEAD.

1:12:24YEAH.

1:12:25>> IF YOU SAY THAT DIRECTLY

1:12:26RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION AROUND

1:12:27INCLUSIONARY ZONING LIKE IN

1:12:29THIS MOMENT WHERE THINGS ARE

1:12:30TOUGH.

1:12:30I MEAN THE CITY OF BOSTON DID

1:12:32NOT CREATE THE HIGH COST OF UH

1:12:34,STEEL AND THE DID NOT CREATE

1:12:35THE TOWER SITUATION DID NOT

1:12:36CREATE ALL OF THE FEDERAL

1:12:37ISSUES THAT FRANKLY A LOT

1:12:39OF THE PEOPLE.

1:12:39>> WHO.

1:12:40ARE POOR.

1:12:40>> DEVELOPMENT I'M NOT GOING TO

1:12:42REALLY FULLY GO THERE, BUT I

1:12:43FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO

1:12:44SUPPORTED DEVELOPMENT NEED TO

1:12:45PUT MORE CRITICISM MAYBE

1:12:46TOWARDS THE PERSON WHO HAS MORE

1:12:47CONTROL OF.

1:12:47THE FEDERAL.

1:12:48GOVERNMENT AND LEAVE

1:12:49INCLUSIONARY ZONING ALONE.

1:12:51UM, WE NEED LIKE THE CITY

1:12:53OF BOSTON THAT'S THEIR MAIN

1:12:54TOOL THAT ALLOWS FOR FAIR

1:12:56HOUSING TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

1:12:57SO YOU CAN'T BE BOTH ANTI

1:12:59INCLUSIONARY ZONING TO BUILD

1:13:00HOUSING FOR YOU KNOW YOU KNOW

1:13:03IMAGINARY PEOPLE BUT THEN SAY

1:13:04THAT YOU'RE FOR FAIR HOUSING

1:13:06WINNING UM SO IT JUST DOESN'T

1:13:07WORK.

1:13:07SO I.

1:13:08THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT

1:13:09NEEDS TO BE DEFENDED AND AND IT

1:13:10GETS ACROSS DEPARTMENTS IT'S

1:13:11ALREADY HAPPENING TO TO A

1:13:13CERTAIN EXTENT AND WE HAVE

1:13:14THESE QUARTERLY MEETINGS WITH

1:13:15DEPARTMENTS COMMON AT ONE POINT

1:13:17DEPARTMENTS ACTUALLY GOT TO

1:13:18LISTEN IN ON WHAT OTHER

1:13:19DEPARTMENTS WERE DOING AND I

1:13:21THINK THAT WAS A I THINK A UH

1:13:22CAPACITY LIKE OURS TIME

1:13:24BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ALL THESE

1:13:25DEPARTMENT HEADS YOU CAN BARELY

1:13:26GET A MEETING ONE ON ONE LET

1:13:28ALONE ALL THEM TOGETHER.

1:13:28BUT THAT KIND OF CONVENING

1:13:29POWER IS WHAT THE MAYOR HAS AND

1:13:31A STRONG LEADER SYSTEM.

1:13:32AND I THINK THAT COULD BE USED

1:13:33TO MAKE SURE THOSE DEPARTMENTS

1:13:35UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING

1:13:36ACROSS THEM.

1:13:36AND IT REALLY JUST NEEDS TO BE

1:13:38A DIRECTIVE FROM ON HIGH I

1:13:39THINK YOU KNOW WE HEAR LIKE

1:13:40MINIMUM DONNIE TALK, YOU.

1:13:41KNOW VERY FERVENTLY ABOUT FAIR

1:13:43HOUSING AND THE NEED FOR BLACK

1:13:44FAMILIES AND UH, PEOPLE HARMED

1:13:46BY FAIR HOUSING TO TO EXIST.

1:13:47UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE

1:13:49INCLUSIONARY ZONING WITHOUT

1:13:49THAT YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF MARKET

1:13:51RATE HOUSING BEING BUILT

1:13:52BASICALLY ALLOWING SEGREGATION

1:13:54TO AS A CITY POLICY.

1:13:55AND SO I THINK THE CITY NEEDS

1:13:57TO COME OUT AND SAY NO, WE'RE

1:13:57ANTI SEGREGATION LIKE WE'RE PRO

1:13:59UH MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE

1:14:00FAIR HOUSING.

1:14:03SO THANK YOU.

1:14:03CAME UP THANK YOU.

1:14:06AND I'M SORRY FOR BEING SO

1:14:08STRICT ON TIME IT JUST I'M GLAD

1:14:09TO SEE THE CHAMBER FULL WITH MY

1:14:10COLLEAGUES AND I WANT TO MAKE

1:14:11SURE EVERYONE GETS A CHANCE TO

1:14:12SPEAK.

1:14:13UM, OKAY.

1:14:14NEXT UP I HAVE COUNCILOR WEBER

1:14:16.

1:14:16OKAY.

1:14:17YEAH, UH, FOLLOWING.

1:14:18UP ON ARMANI'S POINT.

1:14:21.

1:14:21>> RIGHT.

1:14:21SO I.

1:14:22UH.

1:14:22>> A LAW PROFESSOR.

1:14:23UH.

1:14:24>> I WAS I REMEMBER ASKING.

1:14:25>> HIM.

1:14:25YOU KNOW, FOR MINIMUM WAGE.

1:14:27UH, YOU KNOW, IS IT BETTER TO,

1:14:30YOU.

1:14:31>> KNOW.

1:14:31EVEN HAVE A JOB EVEN.

1:14:32>> IF PAYS LESS THAN MINIMUM

1:14:33WAGE?

1:14:33AND HE SAID THINK.

1:14:35>> OF IT AS LIKE A.

1:14:36AS A BUSINESS.

1:14:36EFFICIENCY STANDARD IF YOU.

1:14:38>> CAN'T.

1:14:38HAVE A BUSINESS THAT.

1:14:39PAYS MINIMUM WAGE WE DON'T WANT

1:14:40YOU IN BUSINESS.

1:14:40SO I KIND OF THINK.

1:14:41ABOUT INCLUSIONARY.

1:14:43ZONING IN THE SAME WAY LIKE IF

1:14:44YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO

1:14:45BUILD HOUSING WITH AFFORDABLE

1:14:47UNITS LIKE.

1:14:48WE DON'T.

1:14:49WANT YOU IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

1:14:51BUSINESS HERE IN BOSTON.

1:14:52BUT I GUESS TO THE OTHER.

1:14:53PANELISTS YOU KNOW WE DO HAVE

1:14:54THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT.

1:14:56IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE TO BUILD

1:14:58HOUSING AND.

1:14:59YOU KNOW WE NEED TO.

1:14:59BRING THESE REQUIREMENTS DOWN

1:15:01I.

1:15:01GUESS WHAT.

1:15:02>> WOULD YOU HAVE TO.

1:15:03SAY TO US THAT.

1:15:04>> WE HEARD.

1:15:05>> FROM OUR I MEAN, THAT BIG

1:15:06LOT THAT THEY TALK ABOUT IN THE

1:15:07BIG CENTRAL PIECE OF THAT

1:15:08ARGUMENT AROUND LIKE IN

1:15:09CAMBRIDGE LIKE THERE'S A BIG

1:15:10LOT A DEVELOPER COULDN'T BUILD

1:15:11BECAUSE OF INCLUSIONARY

1:15:12DEVELOPMENT.

1:15:13THAT LOT WASN'T BUILT BY THAT

1:15:15DEVELOPER WITH, YOU KNOW, BARE

1:15:16MINIMUM AFFORDABILITY BUT IT'S

1:15:18NOW BEING BOUGHT BY AFFORDABLE

1:15:20HOUSING DEVELOPER AND DOING 66

1:15:21UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

1:15:23SO MAYBE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

1:15:25DEVELOPERS NEED TO TAKE THE

1:15:25LEAD ON DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY

1:15:27IF PRIVATE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT

1:15:29ABLE TO DO IT.

1:15:32ANYONE ELSE YOU KNOW?

1:15:34>> UH YEAH I.

1:15:35THINK I THINK UM.

1:15:38UH THAT WE NEED TO AGAIN.

1:15:42LOOK TOWARDS INNOVATION TO A

1:15:44CERTAIN EXTENT.

1:15:44AND THERE MAY BE THINGS.

1:15:46POTENTIAL INNOVATIONS THAT

1:15:47WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT.

1:15:48I MENTIONED THE VACANT UNITS

1:15:50GOVERNMENT CAN HELP.

1:15:51DEVELOP THOSE VACANT UNITS.

1:15:53INTO AFFORDABLE SPACES.

1:15:56UH.

1:15:57>> WE NEED TO.

1:16:00UH TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS

1:16:02VERY COSTLY TO BUILD, BUT

1:16:05PERHAPS THAT CALLS FOR A.

1:16:06GREATER GOVERNMENT.

1:16:08LEADERSHIP AND INVOLVEMENT WITH

1:16:10SUBSIDIES.

1:16:11OR ALL KINDS OF ECONOMIC.

1:16:13UH.

1:16:14>> TOOLS THAT CAN PERHAPS LOWER

1:16:16THE COSTS.

1:16:17UH.

1:16:18>> THE BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY TO

1:16:20THE DEVELOPERS IS THAT WE

1:16:21SHOULD NOT GET INTO A ZERO SUM

1:16:23SITUATION THAT IS YOU BUILD BUT

1:16:26THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE HOMES.

1:16:27AND I THINK.

1:16:29WE HAVE TO COME TO THE TABLE

1:16:31DEBATE.

1:16:31INTENSIVELY PERHAPS BUT FIGURE

1:16:32OUT HOW TO MOVE.

1:16:33FORWARD BECAUSE UH, WE CANNOT

1:16:36HAVE A CITY IN BOSTON.

1:16:38WHERE UH.

1:16:40AGAIN UH.

1:16:41DEVELOPMENT UH BASICALLY.

1:16:44IS COULD.

1:16:44>> CHANGE THE FACE OF BOSTON

1:16:45AND THE PROGRESS.

1:16:46>> THAT WE'VE MADE.

1:16:47AS LINCOLN.

1:16:48MENTIONED, PEOPLE.

1:16:49>> ARE.

1:16:49LEAVING THE CITY NOT JUST

1:16:50MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE BUT ALSO

1:16:51WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.

1:16:52THIS THAT'S A.

1:16:54MAJOR ECONOMIC THREAT TO THE

1:16:55SURVIVAL OF THE CITY.

1:16:56AND SO YES, WE.

1:16:59UNDERSTAND COSTS HAVE GONE UP

1:17:01BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW

1:17:02TO ACCOMMODATE THAT WITH.

1:17:04UH WITH WITH NOT GOING

1:17:06BACKWARDS ON THE COMMITMENT

1:17:07WE'VE MADE TO HELP PEOPLE WHO

1:17:11ARE.

1:17:11AT CERTAIN COST.

1:17:13ONE THAT HAS ONE CITY WHICH IS

1:17:16THERE'S.

1:17:16NOTHING IN THE FAIR HOUSING

1:17:19LAWS THAT SAYS EXCEPT IF IT'S

1:17:22ECONOMICALLY NOT FEASIBLE.

1:17:24AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY

1:17:26IMPORTANT WE CAN ALWAYS USE THE

1:17:30ECONOMICS AS AN EXCUSE TO DENY

1:17:32PEOPLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES

1:17:34AND THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT.

1:17:37WE WANT.

1:17:38>> TO DO AS A CITY AS.

1:17:40UH A COUNTRY IT DOESN'T MEET

1:17:43OUR VALUES AND I THINK THE LAW

1:17:45IS CLEAR YOU HAVE TO ENSURE

1:17:49EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND HOUSING

1:17:50AND THAT MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS

1:17:52.

1:17:52IT'S LIKE.

1:17:53>> WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE

1:17:55BEDROOM SIZE IF YOU HAVE THE

1:17:58NEEDS OF FAMILIES WITH TWO AND

1:18:00THREE KIDS BUILDING ONE BEDROOM

1:18:03HOUSING ONLY DISCRIMINATES

1:18:06AGAINST THOSE FAMILIES.

1:18:08SO UH, I, I UNDERSTAND THE

1:18:12TENSION AND I REALLY APPRECIATE

1:18:14IT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE COULD

1:18:16LET OUR, UH, FAIR HOUSING

1:18:19COMMITMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVE

1:18:20WAY TO WHAT'S ECONOMICALLY

1:18:22FEASIBLE FOR DEVELOPERS.

1:18:24AND IF I CAN JUST ADD SOMETHING

1:18:25GREAT QUICKLY JUST A FOOTNOTE

1:18:28ACTUALLY.

1:18:28I THINK.

1:18:28>> THIS WAS IN THE BAY STATE.

1:18:29BANNER BUT.

1:18:31WE ALSO HAVE.

1:18:32EXAMPLES OF DEVELOPMENTS.

1:18:33>> WELL.

1:18:34VERY PRO AFFORDABILITY.

1:18:35YES.

1:18:35AND SO.

1:18:36MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK TO THEM

1:18:37AND BRING.

1:18:37THEM TO THE TABLE AND SAY HOW.

1:18:39IS IT THAT.

1:18:39>> YOU BUILT THIS I FORGET

1:18:40WHERE SOMEPLACE IN IT UH IT'S.

1:18:43SOMEWHERE JP.

1:18:44I MAYBE.

1:18:45>> WITH JP I FORGET BUT IT WAS

1:18:46JUST A DAY.

1:18:47OR TWO.

1:18:47AGO AND IT'S NOT THE ONLY

1:18:49INSTANCE THAT I'VE COME ACROSS

1:18:51INFORMATION ABOUT DEVELOPERS

1:18:52WHO ARE COMMITTED TO

1:18:54AFFORDABILITY.

1:18:55THEY'RE NOT THE BIG TIME

1:18:56DEVELOPERS.

1:18:57BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK.

1:18:58>> TO THEM TO SAY WELL.

1:18:59HOW DO YOU DO IT?

1:19:02BECAUSE UH.

1:19:02>> THEY'RE DOING IT TO A

1:19:03CERTAIN EXTENT.

1:19:03IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

1:19:06AND I MEAN I THINK PART OF IT

1:19:08IS UM, SO THE DEVELOPERS.

1:19:10ARE FOR THE MOST PART.

1:19:11ARE KIND OF UM GROUNDED IN WHAT

1:19:13WORKS FOR THEM.

1:19:15SO THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD UH,

1:19:16BASED ON THEIR BOTTOM LINE

1:19:18EXCEPT LIKE CDC IS WE HAVE A

1:19:19DIFFERENT FRAMEWORK BUT.

1:19:21I THINK THERE'S A.

1:19:22>> ROLE FOR.

1:19:22GOVERNMENT TO PLAY IT AND I

1:19:23CAN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT.

1:19:24>> THE ROLE IS, BUT I THINK

1:19:25GOVERNMENT.

1:19:26GOVERNMENT OFTENTIMES THINKS

1:19:27WELL, UM, THIS IS NOT OUR

1:19:29SPACE.

1:19:30WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO

1:19:31X AND.

1:19:32BUT BUT I THINK THAT.

1:19:34THAT PERSPECTIVE.

1:19:35>> KIND.

1:19:36OF A000.

1:19:37FROM REALLY BEING INNOVATIVE

1:19:38AND KIND OF THINKING THROUGH

1:19:39DIFFERENT THINGS THAT.

1:19:40>> CAN.

1:19:40GET DONE BECAUSE YOU'RE SITTING

1:19:41AROUND SAYING SAYING YOU KNOW,

1:19:42UM, THIS IS NOT MY DOMAIN.

1:19:43I CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

1:19:44SO THEN YOU ARE JUST UM FOR THE

1:19:46MOST PART UM, YOUR REACTIVE.

1:19:49TO WHAT.

1:19:51DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO DO NOW.

1:19:52UM I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE UM

1:19:55CONSOLE WORLD IS WORKING ON

1:19:56SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE SB UH

1:19:57SPECIAL PROTECTIONS ON

1:19:58ORDINANCE UM AND SO ON AND SO

1:20:00FORTH.

1:20:00BUT I THINK.

1:20:01A LARGE PART OF THAT IS HOW.

1:20:03YOU MENTIONED INNOVATION

1:20:04EARLIER AND UM AND THAT COULD

1:20:06TAKE UM ON MANY DIFFERENT ROLES

1:20:08BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF.

1:20:09GOVERNMENT IS SITTING AROUND

1:20:10SAYING WE CAN'T DO X.

1:20:13THEN THEN YOU CAN'T DO X, YOU

1:20:15KNOW, SO HOW DO YOU SHIFT.

1:20:16>> THE FRAME.

1:20:17AND REALLY UTILIZE.

1:20:19>> THE.

1:20:19POWER THAT.

1:20:19>> YOU HAVE.

1:20:20TO ACTUALLY MAKE SOME OF THESE

1:20:21CHANGES HAPPEN?

1:20:22I MEAN I THINK THERE'S A SPACE

1:20:23OF GOVERNMENT TO BE INVOLVED,

1:20:24UM THE KIND OF PUSH DEVELOPERS

1:20:25GOT TO DO THE RIGHT THING BUT

1:20:27YOU CAN'T DO IT IF YOU'RE

1:20:28SITTING THERE AND SAYING WELL.

1:20:29>> I.

1:20:29CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

1:20:30I JUST NEED US DO THIS, OKAY?

1:20:32>> THANK YOU.

1:20:33THANKS TO THE PANEL FOR

1:20:35FILIBUSTERING.

1:20:35>> ME, BUT, UH.

1:20:39UH THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

1:20:40CHAIR I THINK I'M.

1:20:42REALLY LUCKY WE'RE NOT THE U.S.

1:20:44SENATE.

1:20:44IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL.

1:20:46BUT NOW THANK YOU FOR YOUR

1:20:48ANSWERS.

1:20:49COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

1:20:53THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:20:54APPRECIATE IT.

1:20:55UH, AND THANK.

1:20:56>> YOU, PANEL, FOR BEING WITH

1:20:57US HERE TODAY.

1:20:58UM, FIRST I WANT TO.

1:20:59SAY I THINK THANK YOU.

1:21:00OF UH.

1:21:01CONTINUING THE CENTER UH.

1:21:02FAIR HOUSING RIGHTS.

1:21:04AS AN INTERSECTION OF EDUCATION

1:21:06,OF PUBLIC HEALTH, OF UH

1:21:08OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

1:21:09UH, I THINK IT'S CONTINUE TO TO

1:21:11TO VIEW IT IN THAT LENS THAT IT

1:21:13REALLY IS UH A BROADER UH, SORT

1:21:16OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING

1:21:17ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHY WE

1:21:19HAVE FAIR HOUSING AND WHAT IT

1:21:20ATTRIBUTES.

1:21:21TO UM SO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS

1:21:22JUST KEEPING THAT AT THE

1:21:23CENTER.

1:21:24IT HELPS ME.

1:21:24>> STAY FOCUSED AS WELL.

1:21:26UM.

1:21:27A COUPLE OF THINGS.

1:21:28>> UH, AND I GUESS I'LL GET MY

1:21:30QUESTIONS OUT BEFORE I LET YOU

1:21:31GUYS ANSWER SHOT AND IT'LL GIVE

1:21:33YOU GUYS TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT

1:21:34AS WELL.

1:21:35RIGHT.

1:21:36UM.

1:21:36>> BUT ONE THING I WANTED TO

1:21:38THINK ABOUT.

1:21:38WAS, UH, ARE THERE ANY STATS

1:21:39THAT STAND OUT TO YOU THAT ARE

1:21:41THE MOST CONCERNING OR TELLING?

1:21:43SO I'LL GIVE YOU A SET TO THINK

1:21:44ABOUT JUST WHEN YOU THINK OF.

1:21:45>> THIS WHAT IS WHAT ARE STATS.

1:21:46>> THAT YOU'RE WORKING OFF

1:21:47OF THAT SAYS THIS SOUNDS AN

1:21:48ALARM FOR ME.

1:21:50UM, OF THE 14 GOALS I KNOW

1:21:51HERE.

1:21:52IN THE CITY'S PRESENTATION THEY

1:21:53HAVE THE 14 GOALS LISTED OUT.

1:21:55I'D BE.

1:21:55INTERESTED KNOWING UH AND YOU

1:21:57DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER NOW, BUT

1:21:58MAYBE IF YOU GUYS COULD REACH

1:21:59OUT.

1:21:59UH, THE ORDER IN WHICH.

1:22:01>> YOU WOULD PRIORITIZE THOSE

1:22:0214 GOALS, RIGHT?

1:22:03BECAUSE AS WITH EVERY ISSUE WE

1:22:05HAVE IN THIS CITY, UH, THERE'S

1:22:07ONLY SO MUCH TO.

1:22:08GO AROUND AND WE CAN'T SAY ALL

1:22:1014 CAN BE THE PRIORITY.

1:22:12UM, AND SO I.

1:22:13>> GUESS IN OTHER WORDS SAYING

1:22:14MAYBE LIKE THE TOP FIVE LIKE.

1:22:15WHAT IS THE TOP.

1:22:15THIRD OF THESE THAT IF WE IF WE

1:22:17WERE.

1:22:18ABLE TO WHAT WOULD DO THE MOST.

1:22:20IMPACT UH WITH THE MONEY THAT

1:22:22WE HAVE AND THE SERVICES WE CAN

1:22:24PROVIDE THAT YOU THINK WOULD

1:22:25PROVIDE THE MOST IMPACT

1:22:26OF THOSE 14 GOALS?

1:22:28UM, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE

1:22:31WAS WOULD THERE BE UM THERE'S

1:22:32SO MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS

1:22:33INVOLVED.

1:22:34>> WE TALKED ABOUT COORDINATION

1:22:35A LOT IN THIS.

1:22:35RIGHT.

1:22:37UM THINK ABOUT THE OTHER.

1:22:38DEPARTMENTS YOU HAVE HOUSING

1:22:39THE BAY OF PLANNING AND YOU SAY

1:22:41THEY EACH SORT OF HAVE THEIR

1:22:42OWN LITTLE UH, INDIVIDUAL FAIR

1:22:44HOUSING PEOPLE WITHIN.

1:22:45DO YOU FEEL WOULD BE BETTER.

1:22:47IF FAIR HOUSING.

1:22:48HAD MORE OF THE CONTROL.

1:22:50IN IN THEIR WORK.

1:22:51WITH EACH DEPARTMENT OR DO YOU

1:22:53FEEL LIKE THEY ARE JUST THE

1:22:55COORDINATOR OF ALL.

1:22:57>> OF THE INDIVIDUAL SMALLER

1:22:58DEPARTMENTS WITHIN?

1:22:59I THINK THAT'S HOW IT WORKS NOW

1:23:01UM.

1:23:01I'M WONDERING IF YOU FEEL HEY

1:23:03WE DON'T NEED INDIVIDUALS IN

1:23:05EACH DEPARTMENT SO MUCH.

1:23:06>> AS FAIR HOUSING INSERTING.

1:23:08THEMSELVES IN.

1:23:09AND AND SORT OF TAKING.

1:23:11>> THE LEAD.

1:23:11WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT INSTEAD

1:23:14OF COORDINATING WITH THEM.

1:23:15THAT'S A THAT'S MORE OF A

1:23:16STRATEGIC QUESTION.

1:23:17UH, YOU KNOW, AN ORG CHART TYPE

1:23:19THING.

1:23:19I WONDER IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY

1:23:21IDEA ON WHICH ONE WOULD WORK.

1:23:22UM, AND THEN AS LONG AS WE I

1:23:25KNOW LATELY THE DISCUSSION HAS

1:23:26JUST.

1:23:26BEEN ABOUT UH, MOST RECENTLY.

1:23:28INCLUSIONARY ZONING.

1:23:29AND ITS EFFECT.

1:23:30AND I THINK YOU BRING UP A

1:23:31GREAT POINT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT

1:23:32YOU CAN'T SAY YOU WANT FAIR

1:23:34HOUSING AND LOWER THE

1:23:34INCLUSIONARY ZONING THAT THAT

1:23:36HIT WITH ME BECAUSE TYPICALLY

1:23:38MY MIND OPERATES JUST SO YOU

1:23:39UNDERSTAND, RIGHT.

1:23:40LIKE I'M THINKING WELL IF WE

1:23:42WANT MORE UNITS.

1:23:44RIGHT YOU GOT TO DROP THE AND.

1:23:46IS IT MORE UNITS AND SUPPLY AND

1:23:47DEMAND TENTATIVELY GOOD FOR ALL

1:23:50RIGHT EXACTLY NO AND THERE'S

1:23:52THERE'S WAYS TO.

1:23:53FIRE BACK AT THIS I UNDERSTAND.

1:23:55ISN'T THAT GOOD FOR EVERYONE.

1:23:56SHOULDN'T THAT BRING.

1:23:57>> RENTS DOWN WHICH MAKES IT

1:23:58MORE AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYBODY

1:23:59NOW YOU CAN ALWAYS FIGHT BACK.

1:24:00WELL YEAH BUT DO THE RENTS

1:24:01ACTUALLY GO DOWN TO LANDLORDS

1:24:03ACTUALLY BRING THE RIGHT DO

1:24:04THEY JUST TAKE THEM OFF THE

1:24:05MARKET AND ARE WAITING TO PUT

1:24:06THEM BACK ON UH WHEN THINGS

1:24:08CHANGE AROUND?

1:24:10UM SO I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO

1:24:11INTO THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE

1:24:12COULD GO BACK AND FORTH.

1:24:13BUT I THINK THE JOB OF.

1:24:14GOVERNMENT I'VE.

1:24:15>> SAID BEFORE IS TO BE.

1:24:16FLEXIBLE TO.

1:24:17>> THE TIMES AND.

1:24:18>> THAT.

1:24:18DOES MEAN I THINK 20%.

1:24:20OVER THE LAST IF.

1:24:22>> YOU'RE GOING TO GO FROM 2010

1:24:23TO 2020, 20% WAS A LAUDABLE

1:24:25GOAL AND A DOABLE GOAL.

1:24:27IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY.

1:24:28NOW THINGS ARE TOUGHER.

1:24:30IT IS OUR JOB TO BE FLEXIBLE

1:24:32AND RESPOND.

1:24:33TO THE TIMES.

1:24:34AND SO I WONDER THAT'S.

1:24:35>> SORT OF WHERE I.

1:24:36THINK THIS IS NOTHING

1:24:37PERMANENT.

1:24:37I WOULD I WOULD THINK OF BUT

1:24:38LIKE.

1:24:39HEY HOW.

1:24:39>> DO.

1:24:40WE.

1:24:40CONTINUE TO.

1:24:41PROVIDE UNITS TO THE GREATER

1:24:42GOOD.

1:24:43IN THE CURRENT TIMES.

1:24:44PLAN FOR BETTER TIMES AHEAD AND

1:24:46YOU KNOW, PUT IT ON A SLIDING

1:24:48SCALE IF YOU WILL.

1:24:49UM.

1:24:49BUT THERE'S GOT.

1:24:50>> TO BE WAYS WE GOT IT.

1:24:51WE CAN'T JUST LET HOUSING

1:24:52PRODUCTION DIE.

1:24:53>> AND I ALSO THINK THERE'S A

1:24:54LOT OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

1:24:55MONEY.

1:24:56OUT THERE WHEN PEOPLE TALK

1:24:57ABOUT THE MARKET RATE VERSUS

1:24:58AFFORDABLE.

1:24:59HOW ARE THE.

1:25:00>> AFFORDABLE GUYS DOING IT?

1:25:01WELL THERE'S A LOT.

1:25:02MORE OUT THERE THAT THEY HAVE

1:25:04TO PICK FROM WHEN THE PRIVATE

1:25:06INVESTMENT IS IS A LITTLE BIT

1:25:08THINNER.

1:25:08SO I THINK.

1:25:08THERE'S A.

1:25:09>> THEY DO HAVE A LEG.

1:25:10>> UP IN THAT.

1:25:10UM IT'S A BIT BACK TO MY

1:25:12ORIGINAL THREE QUESTIONS I OPEN

1:25:13IT.

1:25:13>> UP THAT THAT WAS EVERYTHING

1:25:14I HAD AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING

1:25:15ME TAKE THE TIME.

1:25:16I COULD I CAN SO I GUESS I

1:25:19WOULD START BACKWARDS THE UM.

1:25:21I'D SAY THE CITY PUT OUT A

1:25:23NUMBER OF THE PACKAGE OF THINGS

1:25:25OTHER THAN REDUCING

1:25:27INCLUSIONARY ZONING.

1:25:28UH, THAT IS KIND OF LIKE

1:25:29ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.

1:25:30AND SO I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS DO

1:25:32DEVELOPERS FEEL LIKE THAT'S

1:25:33ENOUGH OR IS THAT NOT ENOUGH?

1:25:34AND YOU KNOW WHAT IS ENOUGH FOR

1:25:36THEM?

1:25:36UH, BECAUSE ON OUR END WE'RE

1:25:38SEEING I MEAN, YOU ASK A

1:25:39QUESTION LIKE WHAT'S A STAT

1:25:40THAT STANDS OUT?

1:25:40YEAH, WE SEE THE STATS AROUND

1:25:43INCOME INEQUALITY BETWEEN BLACK

1:25:45AND WHITE RESIDENTS.

1:25:46WE LOOK AT THE RATE OF UM

1:25:49FORECLOSURES WHICH HAVE GONE UP

1:25:50IN THE CITY NOW UH, ESPECIALLY

1:25:51NOW WITH THE NONEXISTENT CFP

1:25:53PROTECTING OUR OUR RESIDENTS.

1:25:55UM, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE

1:25:56KIND OF STATS THEN IT PAINTS A

1:25:58PICTURE OF A CITY WHERE BLACK

1:25:59AND BROWN RESIDENTS ARE NOT

1:26:02CONSIDERED IN POLICY DECISIONS

1:26:03ARE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

1:26:04AND SO IT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW,

1:26:07LOWERING INCLUSIONARY ZONING IN

1:26:08THE MIDST OF THE CITY GETTING

1:26:10110 MILLION TO DEVELOPERS IS

1:26:12UM, FEELING LIKE THAT PERSON

1:26:15MAKING THAT DECISION IS UM,

1:26:17MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE GREATER

1:26:19GOOD THAN THE LONG TERM IMPACT

1:26:21OF A LONG TERM HEALTH AND

1:26:23WEALTH OF BLACK AND BROWN

1:26:24RESIDENTS.

1:26:24AND SO I THINK THAT THOSE TWO

1:26:26THINGS AREN'T NECESSARILY UM,

1:26:28DON'T NEED TO BE UM, THEY CAN

1:26:31BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME

1:26:32BECAUSE AS IT STANDS, THE STATS

1:26:33SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE

1:26:35AVERAGE FAMILY IS DOING VERY

1:26:36WELL AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE

1:26:38RACIAL DEMOGRAPHIC DEVELOPERS

1:26:39BUT I'D ARGUE THAT PROBABLY

1:26:40DOING WELL BETTER THAN THE

1:26:42AVERAGE LOW INCOME RESIDENT WHO

1:26:43THIS WOULD AFFECT IN THEIR

1:26:44ABILITY TO STAY IN BOSTON.

1:26:45SO WHEN YOU THINK OF GREATER

1:26:46GOOD, PROBABLY HELPING THE LOW

1:26:48INCOME RESIDENTS WOULD BE A

1:26:49BETTER USE OF YOUR GOOD.

1:26:51YOUR PASSING TO DO GOOD IS MY

1:26:52THOUGHT UNDERSTOOD?

1:26:53THANK YOU.

1:26:58>> I KEEP GOING IF NO ONE ELSE

1:27:00AND.

1:27:00>> UH YEAH.

1:27:00>> THAT WAS I JUST IT STATS HOW

1:27:02YOU WOULD PRIORITIZE THE 14

1:27:03GOALS IF.

1:27:03ANY AND AGAIN AND THEN HOW THE

1:27:05COORDINATION WORK.

1:27:06SO THOSE ARE MY THREE MAIN

1:27:07QUESTIONS.

1:27:08I THINK WE NEED TO GET BACK TO

1:27:10YOU ON WHAT WE SEE AS THE FIVE

1:27:12MAIN GOALS.

1:27:14UM BUT CLEARLY GETTING THE

1:27:17AUDIT YOU KNOW SOME OF THE

1:27:18THINGS WE MENTIONED THE AUDIT

1:27:20SOME COORDINATION AND THE CITY

1:27:23AND UM, GETTING THE MONITORING

1:27:25COMMITTEE BACK UP AND RUNNING I

1:27:28THINK WOULD BE SOME OF THOSE I

1:27:30JUST WANT TO TAKE THE

1:27:32OPPORTUNITY BEFORE OTHER

1:27:33COUNCILORS LEAVE.

1:27:34I AM JUST SO MOVED THAT SO MANY

1:27:37OF YOU ARE HERE TODAY AND I'VE

1:27:41TESTIFIED AT A LOT OF CITY

1:27:43COUNCIL HEARINGS HERE AND THIS

1:27:45IS JUST AN AMAZING TURNOUT AND

1:27:48I REALLY APPRECIATE EACH AND

1:27:50EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR COMING.

1:27:52UM, AND UNDERSTANDING THE

1:27:55IMPORTANCE THAT IT REALLY MAKES

1:27:57US FEEL LIKE THE WORK WE'RE

1:27:59DOING IS REALLY MEANINGFUL.

1:28:02SO THANK YOU.

1:28:03SO THIS.

1:28:03>> IS NOT.

1:28:04THANK YOU.

1:28:05THIS IS NOT A.

1:28:07DIRECT RESPONSE.

1:28:08TO YOUR QUERIES BUT BUT LET

1:28:10ME RESPOND WITH A QUERY AND I'M

1:28:13WONDERING.

1:28:13IF WE.

1:28:14STARTED TO THINK.

1:28:15>> MORE ABOUT COOPERATIVE.

1:28:16HOUSING IN BOSTON.

1:28:20UH MIGHT THAT CHANGE THE

1:28:21EQUATION A BIT I DON'T KNOW BUT

1:28:24BUT THE WAY WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT

1:28:26DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING.

1:28:27FOR THE MOST PART IN THIS.

1:28:29COUNTRY IS, YOU KNOW, VERY

1:28:30TRADITIONAL IN SOME PLACES UH

1:28:33UH, PEOPLE BEGINNING LOCAL

1:28:36GOVERNMENTS ARE BEGINNING TO

1:28:37PUT MORE RESOURCES INTO

1:28:38COOPERATIVE HOUSING, COMMUNITY

1:28:39LAND TRUST BUT ALSO CO-OPS.

1:28:41AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER

1:28:42THAT OPENS THE DOOR TO GET TO

1:28:44THE THE POWER THAT THAT THAT

1:28:46THAT YOU'RE RAISING UH MAYBE

1:28:50PRODUCING HOUSING NOT AS A

1:28:52SPECULATIVE COMMODITY BUT MORE

1:28:55HOUSING AS A RIGHT UH MIGHT

1:28:59MIGHT AGAIN IT MIGHT OPEN THE

1:29:01DOOR TO DIFFERENT WAYS

1:29:02OF THINKING ABOUT DOING HOUSING

1:29:05AND AND RE BALANCING THE NEEDS

1:29:08OF RESIDENTS LOW INCOME WORKING

1:29:10CLASS RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE NEED

1:29:14TO BUILD HOUSING OF COURSE.

1:29:17THANK YOU CHAIR AND I

1:29:19APPRECIATE ALL YOUR ANSWERS.

1:29:19THANK YOU PANEL THANK YOU

1:29:21COUNCILOR.

1:29:22COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.

1:29:23YOU THANK YOU MR.

1:29:25CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO ALL

1:29:26OF THE ADVOCATES FOR BEING HERE

1:29:27AND FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE WORK IN

1:29:29THIS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT

1:29:32NATIONAL LANDSCAPE.

1:29:33I GUESS I'LL PICK OFF WITH

1:29:34WHERE YOU'RE LEAVING OFF.

1:29:35I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS

1:29:37HOUSING AND I STARTED MY CAREER

1:29:38REPRESENTING FAMILIES FACING

1:29:39EVICTION AND FORECLOSURE.

1:29:41SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY.

1:29:43THIS IS SUCH A DIFFICULT TOPIC

1:29:45IS THAT WE HAVE COMMODIFIED A

1:29:47BASIC HUMAN NECESSITY, RIGHT?

1:29:49PART OF THE SPECULATIVE MARKET

1:29:51IS DEPENDENT ON DRIVEN

1:29:52COMPLETELY BY PROFIT, WHICH IS

1:29:54WHY REAL ESTATE IS ONE OF THOSE

1:29:56AREAS.

1:29:56IF YOUR ETHOS IS HOUSING IS A

1:29:59HUMAN RIGHT, THEN YOU DO NEED

1:30:01TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THINGS

1:30:03OTHER THAN JUST THE PROFIT

1:30:04MARGIN.

1:30:05IF WE'RE TRYING TO ENSURE THAT

1:30:06EVERY RESIDENT HAS A PLACE TO

1:30:07CALL HOME WHICH IS WHY

1:30:08COMMUNITY LAND TRUST UH LIMITED

1:30:10SHARE EQUITY COOPERATIVES OTHER

1:30:13ALTERNATIVES ARE THINGS THAT WE

1:30:14HAVE TO UPLIFT.

1:30:15AND I WANT TO THINK I KNOW TO

1:30:16YOU FOLKS UM FROM THE LAND

1:30:18TRUST COMMUNITY FROM OBVIOUSLY

1:30:20ALSO PART OF THE FAIR HOUSING

1:30:21WORLD PART OF IT BECAUSE WE

1:30:23CANNOT DEPEND ON THE MARKET

1:30:25ALONE AS IT EXISTS TO SOLVE OUR

1:30:27HOUSING CRISIS, WHICH IS WHY

1:30:29I'M GLAD TO HEAR A BROAD SWATH

1:30:32OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT

1:30:33GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION.

1:30:34UM, AND I'VE BEEN TALKING TO

1:30:36COUNCILOR COLETTE AS ZAPATA THE

1:30:37LIKE SO MUCH OF WHAT WE'RE

1:30:39DOING IN THE CITY IS

1:30:40INTERTWINED TO SOLVING THESE

1:30:42ISSUES, RIGHT?

1:30:43SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT

1:30:44IS IT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR A

1:30:46DEVELOPER TO DO MORE OF THE

1:30:47WORK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN

1:30:49IT COMES TO IDP WHEN WE TALK TO

1:30:52THOSE DEVELOPERS LIKE GIVE US

1:30:53MORE DENSITY, GIVE US MORE

1:30:55OF AN ABILITY TO BUILD MORE

1:30:58OF THAT HOUSING IN GENERAL AND

1:30:59WE'LL BE ABLE TO HIT THAT LIMIT

1:31:01AND INCREASE ELEMENT AND THEN

1:31:02YOU KNOW WE FACE DENSITY

1:31:04BATTLES WHEN WE GO INTO

1:31:05NEIGHBORHOOD DISCUSSIONS OR YOU

1:31:07KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT

1:31:09WE NEED MORE THERE ISN'T A

1:31:10LIMITLESS POT OF MONEY FOR FOR

1:31:14AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

1:31:15IF THERE WERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE

1:31:16THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH

1:31:17PEOPLE BEING IN HOUSING ALL

1:31:18OF THAT GIVE US A TRANSFER FEE

1:31:20WHICH WOULD ALLOW US AT LEAST

1:31:22AT A MINIMUM $50 MILLION A

1:31:24YEAR.

1:31:25TO FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

1:31:27AND SO I JUST THINK THAT WE

1:31:29CANNOT THINK OF ANY OF THE

1:31:30SOLUTIONS HERE IN A VACUUM.

1:31:32AND IN ORDER TO SOLVE THESE

1:31:33PROBLEMS YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO

1:31:35BE FOR THIS AND FOR THAT AND

1:31:37FOR THIS TO REALLY UH, GET AT

1:31:40THE IDEA OF BLUNTING

1:31:42GENTRIFICATION AT THE IDEA

1:31:43OF BLUNTING DISPLACEMENT.

1:31:44I THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT

1:31:46WE WORKED ON IN MATTAPAN WHERE

1:31:47THERE WAS A FOR PROFIT

1:31:48DEVELOPER WAS WAS INSISTENT ON

1:31:51RENAMING THIS AREA TO SOMA

1:31:53SOUTH OF MATTAPAN LIKE WHERE

1:31:54THEY DO THAT RIGHT?

1:31:55BUT IT TOOK SO MUCH

1:31:57INTENTIONALITY FROM THE CITY

1:31:59AND FROM PRIVATE FUNDERS AND

1:32:00FROM HOSPITALS TO REALIZE COVID

1:32:01AS A HUMAN RIGHT.

1:32:02SO I JUST THINK IT'S LIKE

1:32:03IMPORTANT FOR US ALWAYS TO LIKE

1:32:04LOOK AT ALL THE PIECES.

1:32:06UM UH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF MY

1:32:07COLLEAGUES HAVE UPLIFTED THE

1:32:08GREAT WORK OF BOB TERRELL WHO

1:32:10WOULD SIT IN MY OFFICE FOR

1:32:11HOURS TALKING ABOUT THE UH, THE

1:32:14GOLD STANDARD OF TESTING NOT

1:32:16ONLY IN THE RENTAL MARKET BUT

1:32:17WE ALSO OBVIOUSLY ARE ALWAYS

1:32:19SEEING DISCRIMINATION WHEN IT

1:32:20COMES TO APPRAISALS WHEN IT

1:32:21COMES TO BUYING.

1:32:22AND I'M WONDERING WHERE ARE WE

1:32:23SEEING CITIES DOING THAT GOLD

1:32:26THE GOLD STANDARD OF PEER

1:32:27TESTING WE'VE ADVOCATED FOR

1:32:28THAT IN THE BUDGET AND THE

1:32:30AMENDMENT PROCESS OF FAIR

1:32:31HOUSING UH FAIR HOUSING TESTERS

1:32:33AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND THAT

1:32:34WORK ISN'T EVEN HAPPENING RIGHT

1:32:35NOW WITH SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY.

1:32:37SO THAT QUESTION IS TWO

1:32:39PRONGED.

1:32:39IT'S WHERE ARE THERE CITIES

1:32:41THAT ARE DOING PEER TESTING IN

1:32:42A WAY THAT IS MOVING FROM JUST

1:32:43THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY HAVING AN

1:32:45IMPACT ON POLICY AND TO IS A

1:32:47TESTING HAPPENING RIGHT NOW OUT

1:32:48OF SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY.

1:32:50IF ANYONE KNOWS SO I DON'T KNOW

1:32:54BUT UH MAYBE UH I DON'T SEE UH

1:32:58DUANE ANYMORE BUT HE MAY BE THE

1:33:00BEST PERSON.

1:33:01OH IS.

1:33:02BUT HE'S THE BEST BUT IT'S NOT.

1:33:04>> HIS NEXT PANEL, YOU.

1:33:06KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW I DON'T

1:33:07KNOW WHAT THE STATE OF TESTING

1:33:08IS.

1:33:09I KNOW THAT YOU MAY HEAR MORE

1:33:10OF THIS FROM ACE WHEN THEY

1:33:11PROVIDE THEIR TESTIMONY.

1:33:13IT IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL.

1:33:14IT'S ONE TOOL.

1:33:16UH AND AND BUT YOU SAID

1:33:17SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS VERY

1:33:19IMPORTANT IS WHAT DO WE DO WITH

1:33:20THE RESULTS OKAY SO WE HAVE

1:33:22THIS TOOL WHAT DO WE DO WITH

1:33:23THE RESULTS.

1:33:24THIS IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT

1:33:25DISCUSSION.

1:33:26YEAH I DON'T KNOW I CAN'T SPEAK

1:33:28FOR SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY.

1:33:30AND RIGHT NOW I DO BELIEVE LIKE

1:33:32WE ARE NOT EVEN AT THE LIKE WE

1:33:34HAVE THE RESULTS YOU KNOW IT

1:33:35HAS BEEN A SLOW PROCESS

1:33:36OF GETTING THE CITY TO REALLY

1:33:38MOVE AND UNDERSTAND EVEN WHEN

1:33:39BOB TERRELL WAS LEADING RIGHT

1:33:41WORKED CLOSELY WITH HIM ABOUT

1:33:42HOW DO WE GET TO EVEN GET THE

1:33:45RESULTS WE'VE BEEN ADVOCATING

1:33:47FOR A LONG TIME FOR A PUBLIC

1:33:48EDUCATION CAMPAIGN BECAUSE

1:33:50OFTENTIMES I DO THINK THAT

1:33:51OWNERS CORPORATE LANDLORDS THEY

1:33:54ARE NOT MADE AFRAID IN THIS

1:33:55CITY TO VIOLATE FAIR HOUSING

1:33:58LAWS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE

1:34:00THAT THAT IS HAPPENING BY

1:34:01PEOPLE CALLING US MORE AND

1:34:03MAKING US MORE AWARE OF THE

1:34:05INSTANCES OF DISCRIMINATION.

1:34:06PEOPLE OFTEN DON'T KNOW THAT

1:34:07WHAT'S THERE THAT THEY'VE BEEN

1:34:08FACING DISCRIMINATION AND THEN

1:34:10SECOND IS DOING THE WORK

1:34:12OF LIKE LETTING PEOPLE OWNERS

1:34:15UM KNOW THAT THE TESTING IS

1:34:16HAPPENING.

1:34:17SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE

1:34:18ANY EXAMPLES OF IT.

1:34:19YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU TALKED

1:34:20ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN NEW

1:34:21YORK OUR MONEY.

1:34:22BUT IF THERE ARE ANY EXAMPLES

1:34:23OF.

1:34:23THIS HAPPENING.

1:34:24>> AROUND I THINK PEOPLE FROM

1:34:26THE FAIR HOUSING OFFICE WILL BE

1:34:29TESTIFYING AND MAYBE CAN ANSWER

1:34:31SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

1:34:33YEAH.

1:34:33>> AND AND THERE'S OTHER LIKE

1:34:34THERE IS A UM A COALITION

1:34:37OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT

1:34:38MEET THROUGH I BELIEVE THE GAY

1:34:40COALITION IN BOSTON AND YOU

1:34:41KNOW HAS A SEAT ON THAT.

1:34:43AND SO I THINK THERE'S LIKE A

1:34:45THERE THAT ANSWER CAN BE WE CAN

1:34:47ANSWER THAT QUESTION EVEN IF

1:34:48NONE OF US KNOW THE DIRECT

1:34:49ANSWER TO THAT.

1:34:50BUT I THINK THE BIG THING IS

1:34:51THAT UM, MAKING SURE YOU KNOW,

1:34:53YOU I SUBMIT A QUESTION OF LIKE

1:34:54HOW DO WE KIND OF CREATE MORE

1:34:56REVENUE TO KIND OF LIKE FUND

1:34:57THIS IMPORTANT WORK TO FUND THE

1:34:59AFFORDABLE HOUSING?

1:34:59AND I THINK THAT IS LIKE.

1:35:01>> A BIGGER QUESTION FRANKLY.

1:35:02UM AND I THINK THAT I LIKE THE

1:35:03IDEA YOU BROUGHT UP THE

1:35:04TRANSFER FEE AND OTHERS ARE

1:35:05THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, WE COULD

1:35:06BE PUSHING.

1:35:06MORE FOR.

1:35:07UM, BUT I THINK THAT UM YEAH, I

1:35:10THINK THE BIG THING IS IN THE

1:35:11CITY EVEN FOLKS IN THE CITY

1:35:13COUNCILORS ARE WELCOME TO JOIN

1:35:15THAT COALITION THE GOVERNMENT

1:35:16ALLIANCE FOR RACIAL EQUITY THAT

1:35:17THEY HOLD.

1:35:18UM AND THEY HAVE WORKSHOPS

1:35:19WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF LIKE

1:35:20LEARN AND FROM THE OTHER CITIES

1:35:22.

1:35:22SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT THAT

1:35:24HAPPEN MORE FROM LIKE

1:35:25COUNCILORS THAT CARE DEEPLY

1:35:26ABOUT THIS TOPIC BECAUSE I

1:35:27BELIEVE THE CITY IS UM IS THERE

1:35:29AND AND THEY'RE DOING THAT

1:35:30THROUGH LOUIS FREE AS SERVES IN

1:35:31THAT CAPACITY BUT UM AND I

1:35:33THINK JUST FROM WHAT I KNOW

1:35:35ANECDOTALLY IS THAT THE CITY IS

1:35:36DOING TESTING RIGHT NOW BUT

1:35:37IT'S JUST THEY'RE SUPER UNDER

1:35:39CAPACITY.

1:35:40I THINK THE PERSON THAT MIGHT

1:35:41HAVE BEEN LEADING IT MIGHT HAVE

1:35:42LEFT ACTUALLY.

1:35:42SO YEAH I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW

1:35:44AS OF RIGHT NOW THEY ARE BUT IT

1:35:45NEEDS TO HAPPEN OKAY.

1:35:46AND I KNOW THE STATE IS PUTTING

1:35:48FUNDING INTO ORGANIZATIONS AS

1:35:49WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT ABOUT THAT

1:35:50MORE LATER.

1:35:51SO AND.

1:35:52THEY'RE TALKING NOT ME THEY GOT

1:35:53NOTHING HE GOT YOU GOT MORE TO

1:35:55SAY.

1:35:55SO YOU MENTIONED TRANSFER FEES

1:35:56.

1:35:57QUICK QUESTION I WONDER HOW

1:35:59MANY DEVELOPERS WHO ARE RAISING

1:36:00THESE ISSUES ABOUT COST ARE OUR

1:36:04ALLIES ON A TRASH HEAP?

1:36:07THANK YOU.

1:36:08>> THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS

1:36:09AND THANK YOU MR CHAIR.

1:36:09I THINK IF WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT

1:36:11THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP AND ABOUT

1:36:12DISPLACEMENT, IT REALLY DOES

1:36:13HAVE TO BE EVERYTHING ON THE

1:36:15TABLE.

1:36:15I THINK OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING

1:36:16AND EQUITY CAN DO A LOT OF IT,

1:36:18BUT I DO THINK IT NEEDS TO ALSO

1:36:19BE PLACED AS IT IS IN PLANNING.

1:36:21IT DOES NEED TO BE INTEGRATED

1:36:22INTO EVERY DEPARTMENT.

1:36:24SO THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE

1:36:25TRAININGS ACROSS EACH

1:36:26DEPARTMENT AROUND FAIR HOUSING

1:36:27AND THAT HASN'T HAPPENED AS A

1:36:28PART OF THIS YOU KNOW I DON'T

1:36:29ACCEPT.

1:36:29SO THANK YOU THANK YOU MR CHAIR

1:36:3137.

1:36:31THANK YOU COUNCIL.

1:36:36THANK YOU CHAIR UM AND I

1:36:38APOLOGIZE THAT I WAS LATE BUT I

1:36:39WAS LISTENING AND IT'S SO GREAT

1:36:40TO SEE.

1:36:40>> ALL OF YOU AND JUST THANK

1:36:41YOU SO.

1:36:41MUCH FOR YOUR FOR YOUR WORK.

1:36:42UM, UH 2019.

1:36:452020 2122 MY PREDECESSOR

1:36:47COUNCILOR.

1:36:48EDWARDS, NOW STATE SENATOR

1:36:49LYDIA EDWARDS I WAS PROUD TO

1:36:50HAVE.

1:36:50PLAYED A SMALL ROLE BUT I.

1:36:51UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF YOU.

1:36:52LIVE AND BREATHE THIS.

1:36:53STUFF AND JUST HAVE.

1:36:54DEDICATED YOUR LIVES.

1:36:56>> AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL.

1:36:56CAREER TO THIS.

1:36:57SO SO THANK YOU.

1:36:57AND I WANT.

1:36:58>> TO.

1:36:59THANK UM.

1:36:59>> THE CO-SPONSORS.

1:37:00AS WELL FOR INTRODUCING.

1:37:00THIS AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE

1:37:02ARE.

1:37:03UM I.

1:37:03>> HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

1:37:04IT'S WELL TAKEN.

1:37:05>> I THINK WE HAVE OUR.

1:37:06>> MARCHING ORDERS, YOU KNOW,

1:37:07ESPECIALLY AS BUDGET SEASON

1:37:08COMES UH, IN THIS COUNCIL AND

1:37:10IN THAT SEASON WE WILL FIGHT.

1:37:12AND AT LEAST.

1:37:13>> I'M.

1:37:14NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR MY

1:37:14COLLEAGUES.

1:37:15AT LEAST I.

1:37:15>> WANT TO KNOW THAT A FEW

1:37:16OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL AS WELL

1:37:17FOR.

1:37:17THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

1:37:19UM, AND JUST, UH, JUST REALLY

1:37:22WANT TO SAY UH.

1:37:23BOB'S NAME AGAIN FOR FOR

1:37:25BECAUSE OF THE WORK.

1:37:26AND FOR.

1:37:26>> EVERYTHING THAT.

1:37:27>> HE DID.

1:37:28>> UM.

1:37:28>> FOR THIS CITY BUT JUST

1:37:30UNDERSTANDING HOW.

1:37:31HISTORIC THAT.

1:37:32ASSESSMENT WAS AND ZONING AND

1:37:34EMBEDDING EQUITY AND PLANNING

1:37:36FOR THE INCLUSION OF UH,

1:37:39FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED AND

1:37:41HISTORICALLY UM RECOGNIZED

1:37:43PROTECTED.

1:37:44CLASSES WAS SUPER.

1:37:45SUPER IMPORTANT AS WE

1:37:47CONTEMPLATED.

1:37:48SUFFOLK DOWNS WE.

1:37:49>> WERE BUILDING A WHOLE NEW.

1:37:51CITY BASICALLY IN EAST BOSTON.

1:37:53UM AND I WOULD ARGUE EAST

1:37:55BOSTON IS.

1:37:56UH THE EPICENTER.

1:37:57OF THE.

1:37:58GENTRIFICATION CRISIS HERE IN

1:38:00THE CITY.

1:38:01IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT

1:38:02MEANS TO LEAVE AFFORDABILITY ON

1:38:05THE BACK BURNER AT THE EXPENSE

1:38:08OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.

1:38:10FOLKS WHO.

1:38:11ARE LOW INCOME, A MODERATELY,

1:38:12UH, INCOME FROM MODERATE

1:38:14INCOME.

1:38:14UM, SO YOU KNOW.

1:38:16>> I THINK THAT I APPRECIATE.

1:38:18COUNCILOR BRADEN'S QUESTIONS.

1:38:19COUNCIL WEBER.

1:38:20ARMANI I WANT TO SHOUT YOU OUT

1:38:22FOR YOUR, UH, POINTED UH,

1:38:25COMMENTARY HERE.

1:38:25JUST SAYING.

1:38:26YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T DEVELOP

1:38:27TO 20% THEN JUST DON'T DEVELOP

1:38:29HERE.

1:38:29AND I THINK I TAKE

1:38:31COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE POINTS AS

1:38:33WELL BECAUSE WE HAVE TO

1:38:35UNDERSTAND HOW ALL OF THIS IS

1:38:37UM, UH, RELATED.

1:38:39AND WHY.

1:38:40>> WE NEED THE TRANSFER FEE AND

1:38:41WHY WE NEED BETTER HOME RULE

1:38:42PETITIONS, UH, GOING UP THERE

1:38:44AND.

1:38:44AND UM, AND GETTING PASSED AND

1:38:46WHY WE NEED MORE POWER AS A

1:38:47CITY RATHER.

1:38:48SO I THINK I'M GRATEFUL.

1:38:50>> FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION FOR

1:38:52UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE

1:38:52OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

1:38:53FAIR HOUSING.

1:38:54UM, AND REALLY NOT WORRYING

1:38:56ABOUT THE BURDEN ON DEVELOPERS

1:38:57BUT WORRYING WHAT IT MEANS WHEN

1:39:00WE DON'T PLAN FOR THE INCLUSION

1:39:02OF FOLKS.

1:39:02AND SO ALL OF THIS IS TO SAY

1:39:03THAT I DON'T REALLY HAVE

1:39:04QUESTIONS.

1:39:04I HAVE AGAIN, I HAVE THE POINTS

1:39:05THAT YOU LAID OUT VERY CLEARLY.

1:39:07UH, WE HAVE OUR MARCHING ORDERS

1:39:09AND JUST WANT TO EXPRESS

1:39:10GRATITUDE.

1:39:10TO ALL OF YOU.

1:39:11>> WHO ARE.

1:39:11ACTUALLY SORRY.

1:39:12I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

1:39:13UM, THE BEFORE DEC I SHOULD

1:39:15KNOW THIS IS THE FIFTH DECK

1:39:16CONSIDERED THE MANAGING

1:39:17COMMITTEE?

1:39:18IS IT INTERCHANGEABLE OR THEY

1:39:20TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES AND HAS

1:39:21THE FIFTH DEC BEEN BEEN MEETING

1:39:22AND I WILL ASK THE NEXT PANEL

1:39:24BUT.

1:39:24YEAH NEXT PANEL CAN GIVE YOU

1:39:25ALL THE DETAILS BUT YES THEY

1:39:26THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE A

1:39:28COALITION OF DIFFERENT

1:39:29DEPARTMENTS.

1:39:29THEY'RE LIKE A DIFFERENT

1:39:31DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT MEET

1:39:31TOGETHER AND I BELIEVE ONE

1:39:32PERSON THE CITY BOSS AND

1:39:34CATHERINE LUSK I WANT TO SAY

1:39:35THE PERSON I'M LOOKING AT ON

1:39:36SOMEONE ELSE SO IT EXACTLY WHO

1:39:37BUT THERE'S SOMEONE THAT I

1:39:39BELIEVE I DON'T KNOW I SHOULD

1:39:39KNOW I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT'S

1:39:40JUST NOT CLEAR ENOUGH OR IT'S

1:39:43NOT REPORTED OUT IN A

1:39:44PREDICTABLE AREA.

1:39:45YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S EARLIER

1:39:47IN THE PROJECT.

1:39:48NOTIFICATION FORM THERE'S.

1:39:49>> THE DECK DECISION.

1:39:50SOMETIMES IT'S LATER IN THE UH

1:39:52LIKE LATER ON IN THE KIND

1:39:54OF ARTICLE 80 DEVELOPMENT MAP

1:39:56SO THEY CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT.

1:39:57BUT YEAH IT IS A PROBLEM THAT

1:39:59THAT WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT

1:40:00IT AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT

1:40:02OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO USE THE

1:40:03DECISIONS THAT COME OUT

1:40:03OF THERE TO PUSH BACK I THINK

1:40:05TALK ABOUT CREATION OF NEW

1:40:06COMMUNITIES IN DORCHESTER.

1:40:07THE DEC, I THINK GAVE A

1:40:09DECISION THAT THE DORCHESTER

1:40:10BAY DEVELOPMENT SHOULDN'T HAVE

1:40:11MOVED FORWARD PASS OR SOME

1:40:13DEVELOPMENT DORCHESTER

1:40:14SORRY I'M MORE ROXBURY BASED

1:40:15BUT WE.

1:40:16>> SHOULDN'T MOVE.

1:40:16>> FORWARD WITH THAT SAID THAT

1:40:17AND THE CITY STILL UH APPROVED

1:40:19THAT PROJECT WHICH IS LIKE SO

1:40:21WE'RE JUST IGNORING FAIR

1:40:22HOUSING SO YEAH.

1:40:23AND I'M SORRY I DO HAVE ANOTHER

1:40:24QUESTION BUT I WENT BACK AND IT

1:40:26JUST I WAS GETTING, UM,

1:40:29FAMILIAR AGAIN WITH DOCUMENTS

1:40:30I'D BEEN LOOKING AT FOR HOURS.

1:40:32>> AND HOURS.

1:40:33>> ON END BUT THE FOR SELF

1:40:34ASSESSMENT UM, HAVE YOU ALL

1:40:36REVIEWED ANY OF THE

1:40:37SELF-ASSESSMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN

1:40:38PRODUCED BY THE BDA?

1:40:40UM DO YOU GET ACCESS TO THOSE.

1:40:42TO THE.

1:40:43>> BOSTON TENANT COALITION?

1:40:44THEY BASICALLY REVIEW EVERY

1:40:45SINGLE ONE.

1:40:45DANIELLE.

1:40:46UH KATA.

1:40:46SUMMER KATA.

1:40:48UM GOOD.

1:40:48PLEASE HEAR MY TESTIFY LATER

1:40:50REVIEWS EVERY SINGLE ONE.

1:40:50IT'S LIKE A FULL TIME JOB TO DO

1:40:52THAT BUT UM IS THAT HAPPENING

1:40:54AT THE CITY IN ANY ARE ANY

1:40:55REPORTING HAPPENING ON THE CITY

1:40:56AND THERE'S I DON'T KNOW

1:40:57DANIELLE MIGHT KNOW MORE I ALSO

1:40:59JASON.

1:41:00JUST ROZIER.

1:41:01OKAY BOSTON TENANT COALITION.

1:41:02THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AND JUST

1:41:03ONE LAST THING I KNOW I'M SO

1:41:04SORRY.

1:41:05UM PROFESSOR JENNINGS MY MOTHER

1:41:06SAYS HELLO.

1:41:07SHE WAS SHE WAS SHE WAS A TOUGH

1:41:08FELLOW WITH YOU SO SHE WANTED

1:41:09ME TO SAY I.

1:41:11WAS GOING TO.

1:41:12GET TO YOU AFTERWARDS.

1:41:13YEAH.

1:41:14>> WE'RE RELATED.

1:41:15EVERYONE ALWAYS ASKS.

1:41:16THANK YOU, THANK.

1:41:17>> YOU, THANK YOU.

1:41:17I SAID TO SAY I WILL.

1:41:19THANK YOU.

1:41:20>> OKAY SO I'M GOING TO ALLOW

1:41:24TWO MINUTES TO THE CO-SPONSORS

1:41:26.

1:41:26FOR THE FOLLOW UP.

1:41:27QUESTIONS TO THE PANEL.

1:41:29UM I KNOW THIS IS ALREADY THIS

1:41:31HAS BEEN A GREAT HERE AND SO

1:41:32FAR BUT I KNOW WE HAVE ONE MORE

1:41:33PANEL TO TESTIFY.

1:41:36SO WHAT COUNCIL?

1:41:37WELL, COUNCIL CULPEPER AND

1:41:39COUNCILMEMBER HERE I'M GOING TO

1:41:40GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES TO GET

1:41:41YOUR QUESTIONS IN.

1:41:42ALL RIGHT OKAY OKAY.

1:41:45I'M TRYING TO HEAR ALL RIGHT.

1:41:46SO, UM, AMANI YOU TALKED ABOUT

1:41:48THE TECH NEEDED MORE

1:41:50TRANSPARENCY UM, AND MORE

1:41:51PREDICTABILITY.

1:41:52WHAT WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT

1:41:54REPORT SHOULD BE ISSUED AND

1:41:56THEN WHO SHOULD IT BE

1:41:58DISTRIBUTED TO?

1:41:59YEAH.

1:41:59>> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

1:42:00I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE

1:42:02DONE.

1:42:02PROBABLY MORE.

1:42:03MAYBE MULTIPLE TIMES.

1:42:05UH, THE BEGINNING THERE SHOULD

1:42:06BE THE THE BOSTON INTER-AGENCY

1:42:07SHOULD BE REVIEWING THE INITIAL

1:42:10AND THEN THERE SHOULD BE

1:42:11FEEDBACK GIVEN BY THAT I

1:42:12BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS AS

1:42:13A FEEDBACK GIVEN BY THAT

1:42:14AGENCY.

1:42:14AND THEN THAT FEEDBACK SHOULD

1:42:16THEN BE USED TO MAKE SUBSEQUENT

1:42:18CHANGES IN THAT COMMITTEE

1:42:19SHOULD THEN REVIEW THOSE TO

1:42:20THEN GIVE A FINAL OPINION OF UH

1:42:22WE'LL SEE AGAIN IT'S A IT'S A

1:42:24PROCESS THAT I DON'T KNOW

1:42:25ENOUGH ABOUT AND ISN'T CLEARLY

1:42:27EXPLAINED.

1:42:27AND I DON'T LIKE A LOT OF THE

1:42:29ARTICLE 80 DOCUMENTATION THAT

1:42:30I'VE READ AND UM, AND HAVE EVEN

1:42:32HELPED THE CITY IN IN HELPING

1:42:34OTHER PEOPLE TO LEARN ABOUT

1:42:34THROUGH THE PLANNING ACADEMY.

1:42:35IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW,

1:42:36I'VE PUSHED AS A YOU KNOW, A

1:42:38SUPPORTER OF MAKING SURE

1:42:39RESIDENTS KNOW MORE ABOUT

1:42:40ARTICLE 80 BUT IT ISN'T UH,

1:42:42RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT CLEAR AND

1:42:43THEY WILL ADMIT IT'S NOT A PART

1:42:45OF THE LIKE IT'S NOT A

1:42:46FORMALIZED STEP BUT IT IS A

1:42:48STEP IN THE FORMAL PROCESS.

1:42:49RIGHT.

1:42:50>> UM AND THEN UH, WHEN IT.

1:42:52>> COMES.

1:42:53TO FINDING MORE REVENUE TO HELP

1:42:54THE CREATION OF HOUSING, YOU

1:42:55KNOW, THE CITY HAS DONE WHETHER

1:42:57IT'S LIKE $110 MILLION

1:42:58ACCELERATOR FUND, UH, WHICH YOU

1:43:00KNOW, WE ADVOCATED FOR FAIR

1:43:01HOUSING, UH, LENS TO BE YOU

1:43:03KNOW, ATTRIBUTED TO IT.

1:43:04UH, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER

1:43:06INCENTIVES FOR HOUSING

1:43:07CREATION, UH, WHETHER IT'S LIKE

1:43:09THE TAX ABATEMENTS, THE DENSITY

1:43:11,UM, CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE

1:43:12HAVING.

1:43:13WHAT DOES THE CCAC OR THE

1:43:17MONITORING COMMITTEE PROVIDE

1:43:19ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY

1:43:22ON HOW FAIR HOUSING LANDS

1:43:23SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PUT ON

1:43:25SOME OF THESE POLICIES?

1:43:29YEAH.

1:43:30>> I MEAN JUST IN TERMS OF LIKE

1:43:32UH LIKE THE POLICIES LIKE IS

1:43:34THERE A PARTICULAR POLICY YOU

1:43:35MEAN OR JUST IN GENERAL.

1:43:35IN GENERAL WHEN WE'RE THINKING

1:43:36ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUMPSTARTING

1:43:38HOUSING CREATION, YOU KNOW, WE.

1:43:39>> TALKED ABOUT THE STRUCTURAL

1:43:40BARRIERS.

1:43:41OUR BIG THING IS MAKING SURE

1:43:42THAT THERE'S DEEPLY AFFORDABLE

1:43:43HOUSING AND LIKE YOU KNOW, THE

1:43:4417 PLUS 3% THAT'S ONE THING WE

1:43:46HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH IS

1:43:47LIKE THE AFFORDABLE THE NEW

1:43:49INCLUSIONARY ZONING REQUIREMENT

1:43:50REQUIRES 17% TO BE AFFORDABLE

1:43:52AND THEN 3% OF THOSE UNITS TO

1:43:54BE FOR VOUCHER.

1:43:54HOLDERS WHICH ALLOWS THOSE THAT

1:43:55ARE MAKING ESSENTIALLY 0 TO

1:43:5730%.

1:43:58AM I TO NOT UH TO BE ABLE TO

1:44:00QUALIFY FOR UNITS?

1:44:00AND SO I THINK WHEN WE THINK

1:44:01ABOUT WHO IS BEING IMPACTED ARE

1:44:03THE LIKE MOST LOW INCOME MOST

1:44:05UM UM AT RISK OF DISPLACEMENT

1:44:07PEOPLE BEING AFFECTED I THINK

1:44:08THAT'S THE WAY TO KIND

1:44:09OF FRAMEWORK IT.

1:44:10UH SO AND THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT

1:44:12UH CAMBRIDGE THE AFFORDABLE

1:44:13HOUSING WHICH NEVER HAPPENED IN

1:44:14CAMBRIDGE.

1:44:15UM, FROM MY RESEARCH I

1:44:17UNDERSTAND THAT THEY GIVE A

1:44:18LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, TO THE

1:44:20CREATION OF SUBSIDIZED HOUSING

1:44:22THROUGH THE CPA FUND.

1:44:23UM, IS CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE

1:44:26EACH MEMBER ON THIS PANEL

1:44:27STANDS WITH UM PUMPING BOSTON

1:44:30CPA FUNDS THE PORTION RIGHT THE

1:44:34POOL TO A HIGHER PERCENTAGE.

1:44:36AND WE JUST WANT TO START ON

1:44:38THE.

1:44:38I DON'T.

1:44:39>> KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE

1:44:40REALLY LOOKED.

1:44:41TO THIS I DID.

1:44:42MENTION THAT IN.

1:44:43>> THE.

1:44:43UH IN THE GOALS THAT'S YOU KNOW

1:44:45SOMEWHERE IN THE GOALS AND

1:44:47BASICALLY AS I RECALL THE

1:44:48LANGUAGE GENERAL LANGUAGE TO

1:44:50MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE

1:44:52USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND

1:44:54NOT EXCLUSIVELY OPEN SPACE.

1:44:57SO UH BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE

1:44:59DETAILS BUT WE DID LOOK AT THAT

1:45:01ISSUE.

1:45:01I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING

1:45:03ABOUT FUNDING.

1:45:04I MEAN WE REALLY DON'T LOOK AT

1:45:06THE FUNDING THING, BUT I THINK

1:45:08THE TRANSFER FEE UH, ISSUE IS

1:45:11ONE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSFER

1:45:13FEE WE NEVER TALK ABOUT FAIR

1:45:15HOUSING.

1:45:16AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS

1:45:19TO HAVE A TRANSFER FEE WOULD BE

1:45:22TO SET ASIDE SOME OF THAT MONEY

1:45:24FOR FAIR HOUSING GOALS.

1:45:25I THINK ONE OF THE CONDITIONS

1:45:27IS OFTEN SAY THAT WE.

1:45:28EXPERIENCE LIKE.

1:45:29WE'VE BEEN A PART OF A BIG PUSH

1:45:31TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECTS IN

1:45:32NUBIAN SQUARE, FOR EXAMPLE,

1:45:34HAVE UH THE FUNDING THEY NEED

1:45:36TO GET STARTED.

1:45:37UM, THEY YOU KNOW, COMMITMENTS

1:45:38ARE MADE, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO

1:45:40TO HAVE THESE PROJECTS

1:45:41DESIGNATED AND TO BE DEEPLY

1:45:43AFFORDABLE.

1:45:43AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE

1:45:44THAT EXISTING PROJECTS IN THE

1:45:46PIPELINE THAT DO HAVE THE

1:45:48EFFECT OF, YOU KNOW, A FIRMLY

1:45:50FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING THAT

1:45:50THOSE GET ACROSS THE FINISH

1:45:52LINE.

1:45:52SO MAKING SURE THOSE PROJECTS

1:45:53GET FUNDED WHETHER IT'S THE

1:45:54COMMONWEALTH BUILDER AND WE

1:45:55HAVE A PETITION THAT'S ACTIVE

1:45:56ON OUR WEBSITE AND WHEN I WANT

1:45:58TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCILORS

1:45:59HERE ARE WORKING WITH US TO,

1:46:00YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THE

1:46:01THAT THE GOVERNOR AND THE STATE

1:46:03BUDGET IS SET UP IN A WAY THAT

1:46:05THE CITY OF BOSTON GETS THE

1:46:05FUNDING THAT IT NEEDS AND I

1:46:07KNOW SHOUT OUTS TO YOU KNOW,

1:46:08WERE COUNCIL YOU FOR GETTING AN

1:46:09EXTRA 10 MILLION TO THAT

1:46:11HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR FUND UH

1:46:12SOME YEARS AGO UH IT'S LIKE WAS

1:46:14IT TWO YEARS AGO YOU GOT IT.

1:46:15>> ACTUALLY.

1:46:15YEAH YEAH.

1:46:16>> YEAH TIME'S A.

1:46:17BLUR BUT ALSO THE THE IDEA THAT

1:46:18PEOPLE HAVE AROUND LIKE A BAD

1:46:19ACTORS LIST I BELIEVE THERE'S A

1:46:21NEW IDEA.

1:46:22THAT'S ANOTHER WAY I THINK

1:46:23OF HOLDING FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE.

1:46:24UM AND SHOUT OUTS TO THOSE WHO

1:46:25ARE BEHIND IT.

1:46:26THANK YOU.

1:46:27>> THANK YOU,

1:46:28COUNCILOR CULPEPPER.

1:46:29TWO MINUTES REAL QUICK I WANT

1:46:32TO RECOGNIZE BRANDY BROOK.

1:46:33SOME HIGHER GROUND ALL THE WAY

1:46:35TO BRANDY HAS BEEN DOING ON

1:46:37ACTUALLY PLACING FOLKS AND

1:46:39HOUSING MONEY.

1:46:40I WANT TO ASK YOUR QUESTION

1:46:41ABOUT THE CITY POINTS TO A

1:46:43PLACE TO THRIVE THE CITY'S

1:46:45AFTER DISPLACEMENT ACTION AS

1:46:47ONE OF THE PROGRESS UNDER THE A

1:46:49OF AIDS.

1:46:49AND I'D LIKE TO ASK HER ACCESS

1:46:52TO COUNCIL TO SURE PILOT AND

1:46:53THE CONDOM AND AND COOPERATIVE

1:46:55CONVERSION ORDINANCE OF THESE

1:46:58POLICIES ARE THEY ACTUALLY

1:47:00PRODUCING MEANINGFUL CHANGES

1:47:02FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THE GROUND

1:47:04OR IF NOT WHAT NEEDS TO BE

1:47:07CHANGED?

1:47:08YEAH, I WOULD SAY YOU'D HAVE TO

1:47:09LOOK KIND OF EACH POLICY BY

1:47:10POLICY TO SEE HOW IT'S BEING

1:47:12IMPLEMENTED.

1:47:12SO I THINK WHAT I KIND

1:47:14OF DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID

1:47:15WHEN YOU READ BACK BUT I

1:47:16THOUGHT I THOUGHT YOU HEARD YOU

1:47:17MENTIONED IS THE ROLE THAT

1:47:18DURING CONDO CONVERSIONS

1:47:19THERE'S A LEVEL OF KIND

1:47:21OF ACCOUNTABILITY THE DEVELOPER

1:47:21HAS TO THE TENANTS TO GIVE THEM

1:47:23UH, FAIR NOTICE AND I BELIEVE

1:47:25THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO SUPPORT

1:47:26THEM WITH THE UH FUND OF MONEY

1:47:28TO MOVE TO THE NEXT LOCATION.

1:47:29SO THAT'S A REAL TANGIBLE THING

1:47:31THAT IS HAPPENING AND I BELIEVE

1:47:33UH, COUNCIL IS A PART HIS

1:47:34PREDECESSOR IS WORKING RIGHT

1:47:35NOW TO ADVANCE SOMETHING OF THE

1:47:37STATE HOUSE THAT WOULD MAKE IT

1:47:38SO THAT NOT JUST CONDOMINIUMS

1:47:39BUT THREE FAMILY HOMES AND TWO

1:47:41FAMILY HOMES ALSO FALL INTO

1:47:42THAT.

1:47:42SO I THINK THAT AMENDMENT IS A

1:47:44PART OF A NEXT STEP IN TRYING

1:47:46TO MAKE THESE POLICIES BETTER.

1:47:48SO MAKING SURE THE CITY

1:47:50COUNCIL HELPS, YOU KNOW, MOVE

1:47:51THAT ALONG WOULD BE A WAY TO

1:47:53ENSURE THAT.

1:47:53BUT EACH THAT'S THE KIND

1:47:54OF THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT AND

1:47:56UH WE WORK WITH MORE I KNOW

1:47:57THERE'S LIKE YOU KNOW THERE'S

1:47:58THERE'S THINK TANKS AND POLICY

1:47:59INSTITUTES OUT THERE NEW ONES

1:48:01COMING OUT THAT WE YOU KNOW, WE

1:48:02ARE WANTING TO WORK WITH MORE

1:48:04AND THE CITY SHOULD BE LOOKING

1:48:04TO WORK WITH MORE TO MAKE SURE

1:48:05THAT WE HAVE THAT KIND OF DATA

1:48:07ON HOW IT AFFECTS BLACK AND

1:48:08BROWN RESIDENTS.

1:48:09LET ME ANSWER AND THIS IS FOR

1:48:11THE ENTIRE PANEL.

1:48:12IF YOU WONDER WHAT IS THE MOST

1:48:13MEANINGFUL POLICY OR

1:48:15ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES THAT BE

1:48:17MADE TO THE VA AND THE MAYOR'S

1:48:18OFFICE OF HOUSING COULD

1:48:19IMPLEMENT RIGHT NOW THE

1:48:21EXISTING AUTHORITY WITHOUT

1:48:23WAITING FOR LEGISLATION?

1:48:27THE MOST MEANINGFUL POLICY OR

1:48:30ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES.

1:48:33FOR THE VA.

1:48:34>> OR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF OR

1:48:36.

1:48:37FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

1:48:40I WOULD JUST SAY COORDINATION.

1:48:42UM UH I THINK THE SILOING IS

1:48:45REALLY HOLDING US BACK.

1:48:46SO I WOULD SAY COORDINATION IS

1:48:51A BIG CHANGE.

1:48:53LINSON UM.

1:48:57I MEAN I AGREE WITH.

1:48:58UH WITH WITH NEEDING AROUND.

1:49:01COORDINATOR NATION.

1:49:02BUT UH UM.

1:49:04IT'S SOMETHING.

1:49:05>> THAT.

1:49:05IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO

1:49:07BEYOND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

1:49:08OF HOUSING.

1:49:09I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE ALL

1:49:11THESE DIFFERENT CITY OF CITY

1:49:12DEPARTMENTS I.

1:49:13YET ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE

1:49:14RAN INTO EVEN DOING THE FHA WAS

1:49:18UM, HAVING A SINGULAR CITY

1:49:20DEPARTMENT, UM, AND THAT

1:49:23POLICY.

1:49:24THAT FORCE OUR PUSH.

1:49:26OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO DO X

1:49:28AND AND THAT BECAME IN LIMITED

1:49:30UH FACTOR AS WE'RE TRYING TO

1:49:31MOVE THE.

1:49:32FHA FORWARD.

1:49:33AND IT BECAME CLEAR TO US THAT.

1:49:35IN ORDER FOR.

1:49:36>> THAT TO HAPPEN YOU NEED A A

1:49:37MANDATE COMING FROM SOME

1:49:38AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY PUSH CITY

1:49:40TO OUR DEMAND.

1:49:41CITY DEPARTMENTS WHATEVER IT IS

1:49:43THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AND

1:49:44DO UM, PART OF THE COORDINATION

1:49:45THAT NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT

1:49:46IT.

1:49:47WELL IN MY VIEW YOU NEED A

1:49:49COORDINATED EFFORT, A MANDATE

1:49:50AROUND UM FIRST OF ALL WHAT IS

1:49:52THE HOUSING?

1:49:53HOW DOES IT IMPACT THE WORK

1:49:54THAT YOU DO?

1:49:55UM HOW DOES THAT WORK MANIFEST

1:49:58ITSELF AND UM AND HAVE A KIND

1:50:00OF A UNIVERSAL UH, DEFINITION

1:50:02AROUND WHAT EQUITY FAILS AND IS

1:50:04BUT THAT HAS TO COME FROM

1:50:05SOMEONE WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY

1:50:06THEN TO ACTUALLY UH, MAKE SURE

1:50:08ARE IN FORCE THAT THESE THINGS

1:50:10ARE HAPPENING.

1:50:10SO I THINK THAT THE

1:50:12COORDINATION IS IS.

1:50:13KEY BUT I.

1:50:14THINK IT GOES BEYOND I MEAN IT

1:50:15WAS OFFICE OF HOUSING PROGRAM.

1:50:17YEAH.

1:50:19>> WELL PEOPLE THAT'S A THAT'S

1:50:21A PROGRAM THAT ADMINISTERS THE

1:50:22FAMILY SELF-SUFFICIENCY FUND

1:50:24WHERE YOU CAN SAVE MONEY.

1:50:25A LOT OF PEOPLE CLAIM THAT

1:50:26AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW,

1:50:27KEEPS YOU POOR BECAUSE THERE'S

1:50:28NO WAY TO SAVE MONEY.

1:50:29THEY HAVE A PROGRAM FSS PROGRAM

1:50:31YOU CAN SAVE MONEY.

1:50:33UH I THINK I BELIEVE THE CITY

1:50:34OF BOSTON IS GOING TO GRADUATE

1:50:35ITS FIRST COHORT OF LIKE YOU

1:50:37KNOW, THEY HELPED 70 PEOPLE BUY

1:50:38HOMES.

1:50:39THAT IS REAL LIFE TANGIBLE

1:50:41THINGS THAT VHA WAS ABLE TO DO

1:50:43WITHOUT PASSING A POLICY.

1:50:44AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WORKING

1:50:45TO MAKE SURE EVERY TENANT IN

1:50:48YOUR DISTRICT KNOWS ABOUT THAT

1:50:50PROGRAM AND THAT THEY UH OR

1:50:51THAT THERE'S SOMEONE IN A

1:50:53COORDINATION POSITION AT THE

1:50:54BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY DOING

1:50:55THAT ROLE, UM, AT THAT

1:50:57DEVELOPMENT FACILITY UM, WOULD

1:50:58BE A REALLY LIKE SIMPLE OR NOT

1:51:00SIMPLE BUT A REAL TANGIBLE WAY

1:51:01TO INCREASE PEOPLE'S WEALTH AND

1:51:03UM, CLOSE SOME OF THESE WEALTH

1:51:04GAPS FOR RESIDENTS.

1:51:05YOU GOING TO WORK WITH ME TO

1:51:07MAKE SURE EVERYONE OF MY

1:51:07DISTRICT KNOWS ABOUT THAT?

1:51:08THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

1:51:09LET'S DO IT.

1:51:10THANK YOU COUNCILOR.

1:51:11AND SOMETHING ARMANI.

1:51:12MENTIONED I.

1:51:13>> DO I DO THINK I REMEMBER

1:51:14THAT COUNCILOR BREADON IN

1:51:16COUNCIL CALLED US ABOUT A.

1:51:17>> FEW WEEKS AGO.

1:51:18DID INTRODUCE SOMETHING.

1:51:19>> TO OPT IN FOR MUNICIPALITIES

1:51:21FOR THE AFFORDABLE.

1:51:22>> HOMES.

1:51:22ACT THAT INCLUDE.

1:51:232 TO 3 UNITS.

1:51:24FOR HOMES FOR CONDO

1:51:25CONVERSIONS.

1:51:25YES.

1:51:26>> SO THAT WAS A THAT WAS A

1:51:28GOOD MOVE.

1:51:28SO SHOUT OUT TO THEM.

1:51:29UM OKAY.

1:51:31COUNCILMAN TWO MINUTES.

1:51:34SO YOU KNOW I'M.

1:51:35MAKING THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE

1:51:36SUCH A GOOD TURNOUT IS BECAUSE

1:51:38I BELIEVE.

1:51:39MY COLLEAGUES UNDERSTAND THAT

1:51:40HOUSING IS.

1:51:41UH, SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF.

1:51:42HEALTH BACK THERE.

1:51:43RIGHT.

1:51:43AND SO LIKE WE UNDERSTAND THE

1:51:45BIG PICTURE HERE IF YOU'RE

1:51:46HOUSING INSECURE YOU'RE.

1:51:48THE WHOLE WORLD IS JUST GOING

1:51:49TO COME CRUMBLING DOWN.

1:51:50SO WE UNDERSTAND WE GOT THE

1:51:52ASSIGNMENT.

1:51:52UM.

1:51:54SO I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

1:51:55ONE IS IN REGARDS.

1:51:57TO UM.

1:51:59POTENTIALLY HOW BHP CAN ALSO BE

1:52:01DRIVING THE IN UH THE HOUSING

1:52:05UNAFFORDABILITY FACTORS BECAUSE

1:52:06I KNOW THAT THE HRA VOUCHERS

1:52:08ARE $3,000 FOR A TWO BEDROOM

1:52:10THAT ALSO IMPACTS THE UH THE

1:52:13DYNAMICS.

1:52:14SO I'M JUST CURIOUS KIND

1:52:15OF WHAT THINKING IF ANY YOU

1:52:17WANT TO SHARE REGARDING THAT

1:52:19CONVERSATION THAT I THINK THE

1:52:20CITY NEEDS TO HAVE MY

1:52:22COUNCIL COLLEAGUE

1:52:22COUNCILOR WEBER MENTIONED.

1:52:24CITY VOUCHERS AS SOMETHING AS

1:52:26ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO

1:52:28THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE

1:52:29CONTROL OVER.

1:52:29SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR

1:52:31INSIGHT ON HOW WE CAN.

1:52:31POUR MORE.

1:52:33INTO THAT UM, BUDGET LINE ITEM.

1:52:35AND UH, LASTLY, I THINK IT'S

1:52:38IMPORTANT FOR US TO ALSO KNOW

1:52:40ENFORCEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY

1:52:43LIKE WE CAN KEEP HAVING THESE

1:52:44CONVERSATIONS BUT UNLESS WE

1:52:45REALLY REALIZE THIS WHOLE IDEA

1:52:47OF LIKE HOW WE'RE GOING TO HOLD

1:52:48OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AND WHAT

1:52:49THE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO

1:52:51LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF FEES AND

1:52:53IN TERMS OF ALSO HOLDING THE

1:52:55CITY ACCOUNTABLE TO ITS OWN

1:52:56ENFORCEMENT AT WHAT POINT IT

1:52:57WE'RE GOING TO START BEING A

1:52:59LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE.

1:53:00AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT

1:53:02YOU COULD CHANGE IN THE CURRENT

1:53:03UH, AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, ANY

1:53:05AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO

1:53:06MAKE TO THE CURRENT STRUCTURE

1:53:07THAT WE HAVE?

1:53:08I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THOSE

1:53:09AMENDMENTS COULD LOOK LIKE.

1:53:10I KNOW THAT'S A LOT, BUT I WANT

1:53:13YOU ALL TO.

1:53:14ANSWER OKAY.

1:53:15LOOKING TO SEE.

1:53:16SO SO IN TERMS OF VOUCHERS WE

1:53:18SHOULD ALSO BE THINKING ABOUT

1:53:20PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS.

1:53:22A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE

1:53:23COUNTRY UH HAS TAKEN PLACE NOT

1:53:25JUST WITH INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD

1:53:26VOUCHERS BUT PROJECT BASED UH

1:53:28VOUCHERS THAT HAVE UH ACTUALLY

1:53:30.

1:53:31CITY COUNCILOR.

1:53:31CULPEPPER CAN SAY MORE OF THIS

1:53:33BECAUSE HE WAS AT HUD AT A

1:53:34POINT WHERE PROJECT BASED

1:53:36VOUCHERS WERE BEING PUSHED ALL

1:53:38OVER THE PLACE.

1:53:40WE REHABILITATED IN BOSTON 2100

1:53:42UNITS BASED ON PROJECT BASED

1:53:44VOUCHERS.

1:53:44BUT PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS

1:53:46ALLOW ONE TO DO ALLOW

1:53:47GOVERNMENT TO DO IS SAY WE WANT

1:53:49TO DEVELOP IN THIS AREA AND WE

1:53:51WANT THIS AREA TO LOOK THIS WAY

1:53:53AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW.

1:53:54>> FULL OF BUSTING HERE.

1:53:55JAMES I ASKED A LOT

1:53:57OF QUESTIONS.

1:53:57>> OKAY?

1:53:57I WANT.

1:53:58TO.

1:53:58MAKE SURE I.

1:53:58>> HEAR FROM EVERYBODY OKAY.

1:53:59>> YEAH DON'T BE.

1:53:59SHY OKAY.

1:54:00>> SO SO UM SO WRAP IT UP.

1:54:03OKAY.

1:54:04>> THIS IS THE WRAP UP.

1:54:06THE.

1:54:07>> UH I THINK THE CITY STILL

1:54:08HAS A BANKING ORDINANCE ON THE

1:54:10BOOKS.

1:54:10OKAY.

1:54:11I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEING

1:54:12ENFORCED OR NOT, BUT A FEW

1:54:13YEARS AGO THE CITY

1:54:15COUNCIL PASSED A BANKING

1:54:16ORDINANCE TO HOLD BANKS

1:54:17ACCOUNTABLE.

1:54:18BANKS HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH YOU

1:54:20KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

1:54:21ALL RIGHT.

1:54:22SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT.

1:54:24COUNCILMEMBER HERE.

1:54:25YEP.

1:54:25THIS IS YOUR LAST QUESTION.

1:54:26NO NO I NEED THEM TO APOLOGIZE

1:54:28FOR MY QUESTION.

1:54:29BUT I KNOW THERE WERE SOME

1:54:30QUESTIONS THAT DID NOT GET

1:54:31ANSWERED.

1:54:32UH.

1:54:33>> I'LL JUST SAY ON THE UH

1:54:36VOUCHER ISSUE.

1:54:37UH.

1:54:38.

1:54:38I THINK THE CITY HAS TO DO MORE

1:54:41TO ENSURE.

1:54:43NONDISCRIMINATION IN THE USE

1:54:44OF THE VOUCHERS AND NOT LEAVE.

1:54:47>> IT UP.

1:54:47TO THE INDIVIDUAL.

1:54:50UM.

1:54:51>> UH, TENANT WHO'S LOOKING FOR

1:54:53HOUSING AND WHAT WE ALWAYS USED

1:54:55TO SAY UNFAIR HOUSING TENANTS

1:54:57NEED LIKE HOUSING.

1:55:00THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO STOP

1:55:01AND FILE A COMPLAINT AND GO

1:55:03THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.

1:55:05THEY NEED TO FIND A PLACE FOR

1:55:07THEIR FAMILY TO LIVE.

1:55:09SO I THINK THE CITY HAS TO BE

1:55:11MORE SYSTEMIC AND UM, MORE

1:55:14AGGRESSIVE IF UH, THERE SHOULD

1:55:17BE A LIST OF HOUSING PROVIDERS

1:55:19WHO DON'T TAKE SECTION EIGHT

1:55:21AND THERE SHOULD BE.

1:55:22PENALTIES FOR THOSE UH,

1:55:25ENTITIES AND I UM I REALLY

1:55:28THINK THERE HAS TO BE MORE

1:55:30AGGRESSION AND UH, MORE

1:55:32ENFORCEMENT.

1:55:33AND ANY AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'D

1:55:34LIKE TO SEE TO THE CURRENT.

1:55:36AS WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE

1:55:38CAN TO GET UNIVERSITIES TO PAY

1:55:39MORE INTO THE HOUSING KIND

1:55:41OF LIKE UH SOLUTION.

1:55:43UM AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET AN

1:55:45ADDITION TO PUT UP UH $10

1:55:47MILLION AND THERE'S NOW TENS

1:55:49OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF DOWN

1:55:50PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE TO

1:55:51ROXBURY MISSION HEALTH AND

1:55:53FENWAY RESIDENTS THAT THAT'S

1:55:55BECAUSE OF ADVOCACY THE YOU

1:55:57KNOW, IT DIDN'T TAKE A LIKE

1:55:59BILL TO BE PASSED ON EACH PILOT

1:56:00AND EACH INSTITUTIONAL MASTER

1:56:02PLAN THAT EXISTS.

1:56:03THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE

1:56:04THOSE UNIVERSITIES ARE DOING

1:56:06THEIR PART AND FAIR AND

1:56:07AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

1:56:08HOUSING.

1:56:10THANK YOU I APPRECIATE.

1:56:12THANK YOU.

1:56:13>> AND AGAIN THANK YOU TO MY

1:56:15COLLEAGUES FOR OUR.

1:56:16FOR THE COOPERATION.

1:56:17THIS IS A VERY NICELY.

1:56:18ATTENDED HEARING AND I KNOW

1:56:19THAT WE HAVE GREAT QUESTIONS

1:56:21FOR ALL OF YOU.

1:56:22BUT AT THIS TIME.

1:56:23I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

1:56:25FOR THANK.

1:56:25>> YOU FOR BEING HERE AS

1:56:26PANELISTS WE ARE GOING TO

1:56:27TRANSITION TO OUR SECOND PANEL

1:56:29AND AS WE DO THAT I DO WANT TO

1:56:31INVITE TWO PEOPLE TO PROVIDE

1:56:33PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

1:56:34UM, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE.

1:56:36TWO MINUTES.

1:56:37ON THE MICS.

1:56:38UM I BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE IS

1:56:40JILLIAN LANSON AND THEN SECOND

1:56:42WILL BE TRISTAN THOMAS JILLIAN.

1:56:46ABSOLUTELY.

1:56:47>> AND SEND ANGEL.

1:56:51PERFECT IS TRISTAN THOMAS.

1:56:53YES.

1:56:53FOR IF YOU MAKE YOUR WAY DOWN

1:56:55YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO PROVIDE

1:56:56YOUR TESTIMONY AND THEN IF THE

1:56:58PEOPLE FROM THE CITY CAN PLEASE

1:56:59TAKE A SEAT.

1:57:02AND THEN WE WILL DO THE REST

1:57:04OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY AFTER WE

1:57:05HEAR FROM THE CITY.

1:57:08SOUNDS GOOD.

1:57:09GOOD AFTERNOON.

1:57:10COUNCILORS APPRECIATE YOUR TIME

1:57:11AND ATTENTION.

1:57:13MY NAME IS TRISTAN THOMAS.

1:57:14I WORK AS DIRECTOR OF POLICY

1:57:16AND LAW FOR ACE ALTERNATIVES

1:57:18FOR COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENT,

1:57:19A 30 YEAR OLD ENVIRONMENTAL

1:57:21JUSTICE NONPROFIT BASED IN

1:57:23ROXBURY.

1:57:24THE FAIR HOUSING ACT OF 1968

1:57:26WAS SIGNED INTO LAW ONE WEEK

1:57:28AFTER DOCTOR KING WAS

1:57:29ASSASSINATED.

1:57:30ITS LEGACY IS ROOTED IN THE

1:57:32CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WHERE YOU

1:57:34LIVE CAN DETERMINE YOUR ACCESS

1:57:36TO SCHOOLS, JOBS, HEALTH CARE,

1:57:38SAFETY AND DIGNITY AND DESPITE

1:57:39SOME PROGRESS, THE HISTORY AND

1:57:42LEGACY OF REDLINING, RACIAL

1:57:44COVENANTS, BLOCKBUSTING AND

1:57:46DISCRIMINATORY LENDING ARE

1:57:47STILL WITH US TODAY.

1:57:48ONLY 30% OF BOSTON'S BLACK

1:57:50FAMILIES OWN HOMES, COMPARED TO

1:57:5373% OF WHITE FAMILIES.

1:57:54MORTGAGE DENIAL RATES FOR BLACK

1:57:56BOSTONIANS ARE MORE THAN TWICE

1:57:58AS HIGH AS COMPARED TO WHITE

1:58:00RESIDENTS.

1:58:00BLACK HOUSEHOLDS IN THE CITY

1:58:02EARN A MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME

1:58:04OF JUST $58,600.

1:58:07THAT'S HOUSEHOLD INCOME

1:58:08COMPARED TO 128,900 FOR WHITE

1:58:11FAMILIES.

1:58:12MORE THAN A QUARTER OF BOSTON'S

1:58:14RENTER HOUSEHOLDS SPEND OVER

1:58:15HALF THEIR INCOME ON RENT, AND

1:58:17WHILE BLACK RESIDENTS MAKE UP

1:58:19JUST 8% OF GREATER BOSTON'S

1:58:21POPULATION, WE ACCOUNT FOR 52%

1:58:23OF THE POPULATION EXPERIENCING

1:58:24HOMELESSNESS.

1:58:26BOSTON'S AFFIRMATIVELY

1:58:27FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING

1:58:28PROVISION REQUIRES MORE THAN

1:58:30SIMPLY PREVENTING

1:58:31DISCRIMINATION.

1:58:32IT MEANS TAKING MEANINGFUL

1:58:33ACTION THAT TAKEN TOGETHER,

1:58:35ADDRESSES SIGNIFICANT

1:58:37DISPARITIES IN HOUSING NEEDS

1:58:38AND AN ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY

1:58:40REPLACING SEGREGATED LIVING

1:58:41PATTERNS BUT TRULY INTEGRATED

1:58:43AND BALANCED LIVING PATTERNS

1:58:44AND TRANSFORMING RACIALLY AND

1:58:46ETHNICALLY CONCENTRATED AREAS

1:58:48OF POVERTY INTO AREAS

1:58:49OF OPPORTUNITY.

1:58:50FAIR HOUSING CANNOT BE AN

1:58:52AFTERTHOUGHT.

1:58:52IT CANNOT BE A NICE TO HAVE

1:58:54APPENDED TO THE END OF A

1:58:55HOUSING PLAN.

1:58:56IT IS THE FOUNDATION ON WHICH

1:58:57EVERYTHING ELSE STANDS.

1:58:59HOUSING IS THE NUMBER ONE

1:59:00CHALLENGE FACING THE PEOPLE

1:59:01OF THE CITY.

1:59:02EVERY DAY WE DELAY MORE.

1:59:04BOSTONIANS ARE PUSHED FURTHER

1:59:05TO THE MARGINS AND ITS BLACK

1:59:06AND BROWN RESIDENTS,

1:59:08IMMIGRANTS, PEOPLE WITH

1:59:10DISABILITIES AND LOW INCOME

1:59:11FAMILIES ARE THOSE WHO ARE

1:59:12PUSHED HARDEST AND FURTHEST.

1:59:14SO I'M ASKING THE CITY

1:59:15OF BOSTON TO COMMIT HARD NOT

1:59:17WITH STATEMENTS BUT WITH

1:59:19RESOURCES AND THE BUDGET

1:59:21ENFORCEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY

1:59:22THROUGH THE AGENCIES WE DEMAND

1:59:24INCREASED STAFF AND FUNDING FOR

1:59:25FAIR HOUSING TESTING AND

1:59:27ENFORCEMENT.

1:59:28WE DEMAND TYING CITY DOLLARS TO

1:59:30REAL AFFORDABILITY AND REAL

1:59:31ACCESS AND WE DEMAND MEASURABLE

1:59:33GOALS AND PUBLIC REPORTING.

1:59:35WE MUST NOT SHY AWAY FROM

1:59:37EMBRACING FAIR HOUSING.

1:59:38IT IS THE LEGACY OF OUR

1:59:39ANCESTORS AND ONE OF THE MOST

1:59:40POWERFUL TOOLS WE HAVE TO

1:59:41ADDRESS CHALLENGES.

1:59:42THANK YOU.

1:59:43>> THANK YOU OKAY.

1:59:46WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE

1:59:48FORWARD WITH OUR SECOND PANEL

1:59:49ON.

1:59:50AND DUANE, THANK YOU SO MUCH

1:59:51FOR BEING HERE.

1:59:53IF YOU CAN.

1:59:54PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES

1:59:55KEEP YOUR TITLES OFFICER YOU

1:59:57WORK FOR AND THEN YOU MAY

1:59:58PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

2:00:00OR IS YOURS.

2:00:02THANK YOU.

2:00:02UH, MR CHAIR, I WANT TO THANK

2:00:04THE CHAIR SPONSORS, UM, THE

2:00:06COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND, UM, THE

2:00:08REST OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT

2:00:10HERE.

2:00:11UH, I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR

2:00:12COLLEAGUES.

2:00:13>> WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THIS

2:00:14WORK.

2:00:15AND WHO.

2:00:16CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS

2:00:17WORK AND.

2:00:18TO THIS PRESENTATION.

2:00:20UM AND SPECIAL THANKS TO THE

2:00:21LATE BOB TERRELL WHO WORKED ON

2:00:23THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

2:00:24AS AN ADVOCATE, AS A STAFF

2:00:27MEMBER AT THE BOSTON HOUSING

2:00:28AUTHORITY AND AS THE EXECUTIVE

2:00:31DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF FAIR

2:00:32HOUSING AND EQUITY AND ALSO TO

2:00:34JOYCE RIVERA GONZALEZ, WHO

2:00:35OWNED MUCH OF THIS WORK AS A

2:00:37PROJECT LEAD AT THE OFFICE

2:00:38OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY.

2:00:40MY NAME IS UNLEY.

2:00:42UM I'M THE DEPUTY CHIEF

2:00:44OF POLICY AND PROGRAMS AT THE

2:00:45EQUITY AND INCLUSION CABINET.

2:00:47GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

2:00:49MY NAME IS DUANE WANTS.

2:00:50>> AND.

2:00:51THE DEPUTY.

2:00:52DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF FAIR

2:00:53HOUSING.

2:00:53>> AND EQUITY.

2:00:54UM, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE

2:00:56TODAY.

2:00:56>> TO TALK ABOUT, UH.

2:00:57THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC.

2:01:03SO I'LL START UM.

2:01:05SO THE OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING

2:01:06INEQUITY, WHAT.

2:01:07>> DO.

2:01:07WE DO?

2:01:08UM, OUR OFFICE.

2:01:09IS IN CHARGE OF ENFORCING.

2:01:11FEDERAL AND LOCAL.

2:01:12FAIR HOUSING LAWS.

2:01:13AND OUR SHOP.

2:01:14>> IS.

2:01:15BROKEN UP.

2:01:15>> INTO TWO DIFFERENT PIECES.

2:01:16SO THERE'S THE INVESTIGATIVE

2:01:17SIDE THAT DOES.

2:01:18INVESTIGATIONS AND ENFORCEMENT

2:01:19AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE

2:01:20POLICY AND.

2:01:21OUTREACH PIECE.

2:01:22UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE

2:01:23INVESTIGATION PIECE GOES, UM,

2:01:25WE INVESTIGATE HOUSING.

2:01:26DISCRIMINATION.

2:01:27>> ENFORCE FEDERAL AND STATE.

2:01:29FEDERAL AND.

2:01:30>> STATE HOUSING LAWS.

2:01:31UM AND THEN WE HAVE.

2:01:32FOLKS FILED.

2:01:33COMPLAINTS UM, AND THOSE IN

2:01:35THOSE HOUSING COMPLAINTS UM

2:01:36THEY MUST HAPPEN IN BOSTON.

2:01:38UM THERE MUST BE AN EFFECTIVE

2:01:39PARTY.

2:01:39THAT BELONGS.

2:01:40>> TO A.

2:01:41PROTECTED CLASS.

2:01:41AND THERE'S A TIMELINESS PIECE

2:01:43IN IT AS WELL.

2:01:44WHERE FOLKS HAVE TO FILE WITHIN

2:01:46180 DAYS OF THE.

2:01:48OF THE.

2:01:48DISCRIMINATORY ACT.

2:01:50THE OTHER PIECE OF OUR SHOP IS

2:01:52POLICY AND OUTREACH.

2:01:54AND THAT'S WHERE THE

2:01:55AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

2:01:56HOUSING FOR.

2:01:57ALL SORT OF FALLS INTO PLAY.

2:01:59THERE'S AN IMPLEMENTATION

2:02:00OF THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR

2:02:01HOUSING, WHICH IS A CITYWIDE

2:02:02ACTION.

2:02:03PLAN WITH MORE.

2:02:04THAN 100 ACTION ITEMS.

2:02:06UM WE ALSO OFFER TRAININGS ON

2:02:07FAIR HOUSING ACROSS THE CITY

2:02:09AND EXTERNALLY AND INTERNALLY

2:02:11AS WELL.

2:02:11UM.

2:02:12>> AND THEN WE ALSO ENGAGE WITH

2:02:13FAIR HOUSING ORGANIZATIONS,

2:02:15AGENCIES.

2:02:16REGIONALLY AND NATIONWIDE.

2:02:21SO I'M.

2:02:21>> GOING TO GO OVER UM SOME

2:02:23OF THE UH THE BACKGROUND VERY

2:02:24QUICKLY.

2:02:25I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THIS HAS

2:02:26ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED SO I

2:02:27APOLOGIZE.

2:02:28UM, WE UH, ANTICIPATED UM BEING

2:02:30ON THE FIRST PANEL.

2:02:32SO UM, JUST WANTED TO UH UH,

2:02:35SAY UH AND AFFIRM THAT, UH,

2:02:38AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

2:02:39HOUSING UM, COMES OUT OF THE

2:02:43FEDERAL UH, FAIR HOUSING ACT.

2:02:45UH, BUT UM, THE FEDERAL

2:02:47GOVERNMENT UH, DID NOT UH, PAY

2:02:50MUCH ATTENTION TO IT UH, UNTIL

2:02:52THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IN

2:02:542015, UH, WHEN IT ISSUED A RULE

2:02:57UM, AND ESSENTIALLY AS MANY

2:02:59HAVE SAID, UM IT'S AN

2:03:00OBLIGATION TO TAKE PROACTIVE

2:03:01STEPS, UM, TO UNDO HISTORIC

2:03:03PATTERNS OF SEGREGATION,

2:03:05ADDRESS DISPARITIES AND EXPAND

2:03:07ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY AS

2:03:08RELATES TO HOUSING.

2:03:14SO WHEN THE OBAMA

2:03:15ADMINISTRATION UM, ISSUED THIS

2:03:17.

2:03:17RULE.

2:03:17>> THE CITY OF BOSTON, UH,

2:03:19BEGAN THE PROCESS OF CREATING

2:03:20AN ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

2:03:22IN 2016, UM ENLISTED A

2:03:25COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

2:03:26YOU'VE MET SOME OF THOSE UH,

2:03:28FOLKS UH, JUST NOW ON THE

2:03:30PREVIOUS PANEL.

2:03:31UM, AND IN 2022, UM, MAYOR WU

2:03:35ISSUED HER FIRST EXECUTIVE

2:03:36ORDER UM, UNDER HER UM

2:03:40ADMINISTRATION WHICH WAS, UH,

2:03:43TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE

2:03:45ACTION ITEMS OF THE ASSESSMENT

2:03:46OF FAIR HOUSING.

2:03:50SO, UH, AS YOU MAY HAVE

2:03:51TROUBLE.

2:03:52READING HERE.

2:03:54UM, THERE ARE 14 GOALS.

2:03:57UM, AND WITHIN THOSE GOALS

2:03:59THERE ARE UM SEVERAL ACTION

2:04:02STEPS FOR EACH GOAL UM TOTALING

2:04:04TO 108 ACTION STEPS.

2:04:07UM, SO UH EVEN THOUGH IT'S

2:04:09CALLED AN ASSESSMENT UH AND

2:04:11REVIEW THE HISTORICAL AND

2:04:12CURRENT STATE OF FAIR HOUSING

2:04:14IN BOSTON UH AND INCORPORATED

2:04:16COMMUNITY INPUT.

2:04:16ALL RIGHT.

2:04:17CONSIDER DEMOGRAPHIC DATA AND

2:04:19OTHER FACTORS.

2:04:20UH IT ALSO IDENTIFIED AREAS

2:04:22OF OPPORTUNITY RIGHT.

2:04:23AND AND THOSE AREAS

2:04:25OF OPPORTUNITY TRANSLATE INTO

2:04:26THESE UH TANGIBLE ACTION STEPS

2:04:28,UM, THAT SORT OF FLOW FROM

2:04:30THE 14.

2:04:31GOALS SO THE ACTION STEPS

2:04:33THEMSELVES.

2:04:33UM, UH SOME OF THE ACTION STEPS

2:04:35THEMSELVES HAVE UH SUB UH TASKS

2:04:38AS WELL.

2:04:41SO THE MAIN STAKEHOLDERS

2:04:42INVOLVED IN CARRYING OUT UH THE

2:04:45ACTION STEPS UM, AND THE GOALS

2:04:48ARE WHAT WE CALL REPORTING

2:04:51AGENCIES.

2:04:51SO THIS IS SEVEN UH CITY

2:04:54OF BOSTON AGENCIES MAYOR'S

2:04:56OFFICE OF HOUSING PLANNING

2:04:58DEPARTMENT, THE BOSTON HOUSING

2:04:59AUTHORITY, THE OFFICE OF FAIR

2:05:01HOUSING AND EQUITY ITSELF, UH,

2:05:02BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THE

2:05:04BOSTON PUBLIC HEALTH

2:05:05COMMISSION.

2:05:06SO THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES

2:05:08FROM EACH OF.

2:05:09>> THOSE AGENCIES.

2:05:09WHO UH, ARE UM TASKED WITH UM

2:05:15ENSURING THAT THEY'RE UH

2:05:17RESPECTIVE AGENCY IS UH, MAKING

2:05:20PROGRESS.

2:05:21ON THESE GOALS.

2:05:22THERE IS THE MONITORING

2:05:24COMMITTEE UM, THAT IS UH

2:05:26COMPRISED OF MEMBERS OF THE

2:05:29COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT

2:05:30.

2:05:31>> DID THE ASSESSMENT.

2:05:32UM THERE ARE UH FOUR.

2:05:34OF THE.

2:05:36ORGANIZATIONS UH, REPRESENTED

2:05:37NAMED HERE BUT THERE ARE OTHER

2:05:38FOLKS AS WELL.

2:05:39UH, AND THEN THERE ARE

2:05:40COORDINATING BODIES.

2:05:41SO THE IMPLEMENTATION IS

2:05:42COORDINATED BY THE OFFICE

2:05:44OF FAIR HOUSING EQUITY AND BY

2:05:46LEADERSHIP IN THE EQUITY

2:05:46INCLUSION CABINET.

2:05:47UM, THAT'S OUTLINED UH, IN THE

2:05:50MAYOR'S SECOND ORDER AS WELL AS

2:05:51THE ASSESSMENT.

2:05:52UM, AND SO UM, WHAT WE DO IS UH

2:05:55,AS THE COORDINATING BODIES UH

2:05:58,IS WE COLLECT UPDATES FROM

2:05:59THE.

2:05:59REPORTING AGENCIES.

2:06:01WE CONVEY THE PRIORITIES.

2:06:02>> OF THE AGENCIES.

2:06:03UM, TO UH, THE MONITORING

2:06:05COMMITTEE, WE CONVEY THE

2:06:07MONITORING COMMITTEE'S

2:06:08PRIORITIES TO THE.

2:06:09REPORTING AGENCIES.

2:06:10AND THEN WE CONVENE ALL OF THEM

2:06:11QUARTERLY.

2:06:13UM, OF COURSE THERE ARE OTHER.

2:06:14DEPARTMENTS THAT, UH, HAVE

2:06:17ASSIGNMENTS AND OTHERS WITH.

2:06:19ROLES UH, TO PLAY AS

2:06:21COLLABORATORS.

2:06:23SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE EIGHT

2:06:24STRONG COMMISSION.

2:06:29SO I WANTED TO SHARE A.

2:06:30>> LITTLE BIT.

2:06:31>> ABOUT.

2:06:31HOW UH WE TRACK PROGRESS.

2:06:33UM, THAT UH WASN'T REALLY

2:06:35COVERED IN THE.

2:06:36ASSESSMENT OR THE EXECUTIVE

2:06:37ORDER.

2:06:37AND SO OUT OF UM UH, SOME UH,

2:06:41CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MONITOR

2:06:43COMMITTEE AND REPORTING

2:06:43AGENCIES AND LOOKING AT BEST

2:06:45PRACTICES UM, IN THE UNITED

2:06:46STATES, UM, WE DECIDED TO.

2:06:48>> GO.

2:06:48WITH THIS AND UNFORTUNATELY.

2:06:49IT'S IT'S A LITTLE BIT.

2:06:50CHALLENGING TO SEE.

2:06:52SO RATHER THAN SAYING THAT

2:06:54SOMETHING UH, IS UH IN

2:06:57PROGRESS.

2:06:57>> AND THEN DONE OR.

2:06:58SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEN

2:06:59YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE HOW DO WE

2:07:01FIGURE THAT OUT?

2:07:01UH, WE DECIDED TO GO WITH UH.

2:07:03INFANCY PLANNING, PILOTING,

2:07:06EVALUATING AND SUSTAINING AND

2:07:08WE WERE VERY INTENTIONAL WITH

2:07:10UH SUSTAINING IN PARTICULAR UM

2:07:13,TO SORT OF IMPRESS UPON ALL.

2:07:16OF THE CITY AGENCIES INVOLVED.

2:07:17THAT UM, THIS.

2:07:19WORK IS NOT A CHECKBOX THAT WE

2:07:21SAY IS DONE AND THAT.

2:07:22>> WE.

2:07:22DON'T.

2:07:22THINK ABOUT IT AND DON'T, YOU.

2:07:23KNOW, DO ANYTHING.

2:07:24ABOUT IT UH, EVER.

2:07:25AGAIN BUT RATHER THAT IT IS

2:07:27WORK THAT WE CONTINUE.

2:07:28>> TO DO.

2:07:30UM UH AND UH IT'S YOU KNOW,

2:07:33JUST PART OF UM, WHAT WE'RE

2:07:35SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

2:07:38SO, UM.

2:07:40MAYOR WU UM.

2:07:42SORT OF ACTIVATED UM, THE

2:07:44TRACKING OF THIS WORK IN

2:07:47JANUARY 2022, UM, THE REPORTING

2:07:50OF THE IMPLEMENTATION ONCE WE

2:07:51SORT OF FIGURE OUT FIGURED OUT

2:07:53EXCUSE ME, ALL OF THE, UM,

2:07:55LOGISTICS.

2:07:56>> OF IT.

2:07:56BEGAN IN OCTOBER 2023.

2:07:59UM, AS OF UM JULY UH, 49%

2:08:06OF THE ACTUAL 108 ACTION ITEMS

2:08:08ARE IN SUSTAINING STATUS.

2:08:11UM, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT, UM,

2:08:13THERE IS NO PERFECT MEASURE

2:08:15ACROSS ALL 108 ITEMS TO SAY

2:08:18THAT SOMETHING IS EVEN FITTING,

2:08:20YOU KNOW, SORT OF THIS

2:08:21FRAMEWORK UM, SOME ACTION ITEMS

2:08:23REQUIRE A LOT MORE.

2:08:24RESOURCES THAN OTHERS.

2:08:26UM, AS I MENTIONED SOME ITEMS

2:08:28HAVE SUBTASKS SO IF THERE ARE,

2:08:30YOU KNOW, FIVE SUBTASKS AND ONE

2:08:33OF THEM HAS NOT HIT SUSTAINING

2:08:35WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT

2:08:36SUSTAINING YET RIGHT.

2:08:38UM AND FURTHER SOME ITEMS ARE

2:08:39STRUCTURED OR ASSIGNED IN WAYS

2:08:41THAT UM ARE CHALLENGING TO

2:08:44IMPLEMENT AND UM.

2:08:46SO WE.

2:08:47UM HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZING.

2:08:48SORT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN

2:08:49PRIORITY PRIORITIES EXCUSE.

2:08:52>> ME.

2:08:52FOR THE MANAGED COMMITTEE AND

2:08:53FOR THE REPORTING AGENCIES.

2:08:54>> UH.

2:08:55FIRST UM SO WITH THIS IN MIND.

2:08:57WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW

2:08:58OF THE GOALS UH, AND THE ACTION

2:09:00ITEMS UM, AND THE PROGRESS MADE

2:09:02.

2:09:03UM AND THEN AFTER THAT, UM,

2:09:05I'LL, UH, PASS IT BACK TO

2:09:07DWAYNE TO UM, SHARE UH, OTHER.

2:09:10WORK THAT THE OFFICE FOR

2:09:12HOUSING EQUITY IS DOING TO

2:09:14AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR

2:09:15HOUSING.

2:09:16BECAUSE OF COURSE THE PRINCIPAL

2:09:18IS.

2:09:18>> A LARGE PART ACCOMPLISHED BY

2:09:20THIS ASSESSMENT AND IT'S ACTION

2:09:22ITEMS BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY SO.

2:09:27SO THE FIRST GOAL IS.

2:09:29UH, FOCUSED ON HOUSING ACCESS.

2:09:31FOR UH PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES

2:09:33AND OLDER ADULTS.

2:09:34UM, WE KNOW THAT UM THEY HAVE

2:09:37UM.

2:09:37A PARTICULARLY STRONG NEED FOR

2:09:39PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE.

2:09:40HOUSING UM AND OFTEN HAVE UH

2:09:43LOWER INCOMES UM, UNDER THE

2:09:46HOUSING BOSTON 2030 PLAN, UM.

2:09:49THERE WAS A DISABILITY.

2:09:51HOUSING TASK FORCE FORMED AND

2:09:53UM SO THEY UM.

2:09:55ALSO GAVE INPUT UH IN ADDITION

2:09:56ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INPUT UH,

2:09:58FOR THIS ACTION ITEM SOME UH

2:10:00EXCUSE ME FOR THIS GOAL UH,

2:10:02SOME OF THE ACTION ITEMS UH,

2:10:04ARE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT.

2:10:05>> FOR PEOPLE WITH

2:10:06DISABILITIES.

2:10:07WHO ARE EXPERIENCING CHRONIC

2:10:08HOMELESSNESS, UH, AND OR

2:10:10SEEKING PERMANENT HOUSING.

2:10:11EXPLORE THE USE OF UNIVERSAL.

2:10:12DESIGN, UH, IN HOUSING

2:10:14DEVELOPMENTS THAT THE CITY.

2:10:15FUNDS AND SUPPORTING COMMUNITY

2:10:17BASED AGE FRIENDLY ALTERNATIVE

2:10:19HOUSING OPTIONS.

2:10:20UM SO THE.

2:10:21WAY THAT.

2:10:22THESE UH ACTIONS ITEMS HAVE

2:10:24BEEN MET ARE UM UH OUTLINED IN

2:10:28BOSTON'S WAY HOME.

2:10:302026, WHICH.

2:10:31>> IS THE ACTION PLAN TO END

2:10:32INDIVIDUAL HOMELESSNESS.

2:10:33UM, AND UH THE.

2:10:35UNIVERSAL DESIGN.

2:10:36ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS HAVE

2:10:38BEEN INCORPORATED NOW INTO THE

2:10:40MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING

2:10:41DESIGN STANDARDS.

2:10:42UM, OUT OF UH COLLABORATION

2:10:45WITH THE EIGHT STRONG

2:10:47COMMISSION AND THE.

2:10:47DISABILITIES COMMISSION.

2:10:59NEXT WE.

2:11:00>> WANT.

2:11:00TO.

2:11:00HIGHLIGHT GOAL NUMBER TWO.

2:11:01DON'T WORRY I'M NOT GOING TO GO

2:11:02THROUGH EVERY.

2:11:02SINGLE GOAL.

2:11:04UM THIS ONE IS FOCUSED.

2:11:05>> ON REDUCING.

2:11:06PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS.

2:11:07UM, SO UM I CAN LEAVE IT UH FOR

2:11:10FOLKS UH, TO.

2:11:11SEE ON THE SCREEN THE.

2:11:13UH, DISPARITIES UH BY UH UM BY

2:11:17RACE.

2:11:17>> AND.

2:11:18ETHNICITY.

2:11:18>> UH, AS IT COMES TO

2:11:19HOMELESSNESS.

2:11:20UM, AND THERE'S UH ACTION ITEMS

2:11:22THAT ARE.

2:11:22PARTICULARLY FOCUSED.

2:11:23ON THE BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY

2:11:25AS WELL AS UM, UH, ACCESS TO

2:11:29COUNCILOR AND HOUSING AND

2:11:30DISTRICT COURTS.

2:11:31UM AND SO UM IN TERMS.

2:11:34>> OF RECENT.

2:11:34UPDATES, UM, THERE IS A UH A

2:11:38MAJOR COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE

2:11:40BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY AND UM

2:11:42THE BOSTON PUBLIC.

2:11:43SCHOOLS.

2:11:44>> UM, IN A PROGRAM CALLED THE

2:11:46FAMILY LED.

2:11:47STABILITY INITIATIVE.

2:11:48UM, THIS UH HOUSES FAMILIES

2:11:51WITH STUDENTS WHO ATTEND AND

2:11:52ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

2:11:54IT STARTED IN 2020 UH WITH UM

2:11:58BOSTON'S HIGHER GROUND.

2:11:59UM SO SHOUT OUT TO HIGHER

2:12:00GROUND HERE UM AND HAS

2:12:02SUPPORTED OVER 1000 FAMILIES UH

2:12:04AT THIS POINT MORE THAN THAT

2:12:05ACTUALLY.

2:12:07UM SO UH IT IT SHOWS HOW THE

2:12:10CITY OF BOSTON CAN DO A

2:12:12INTERAGENCY PARTNERSHIP, UH.

2:12:14AS WELL AS AN EXTERNAL

2:12:15PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE THIS

2:12:16HAPPEN.

2:12:16UM, THERE'S ANOTHER PARTNERSHIP

2:12:18WITH THE BOSTON PUBLIC.

2:12:20>> HEALTH COMMISSION.

2:12:20UH, FOR HEALTHY START AND

2:12:22HOUSING.

2:12:22UH.

2:12:22>> SO THAT'S.

2:12:23>> BETWEEN BPD AND VHA.

2:12:25AS WELL AS UH, ONE WITH THE

2:12:27STATE CALLED LEADING THE WAY

2:12:28HOME.

2:12:30UM.

2:12:31MORE RECENTLY IN.

2:12:32AUGUST UM UH UH AS A AS A DRAFT

2:12:36FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THE MAYOR'S

2:12:38OFFICE OF HOUSING IS UM, UH,

2:12:40SORT OF PREVIEWING AND

2:12:42PREPARING THE RELEASE OF THE.

2:12:43FINAL RESIDENTIAL EVICTION

2:12:45PREVENTION ACTION PLAN.

2:12:46SO THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING

2:12:47IN THE COMING WEEKS.

2:12:48THAT'S A CITYWIDE EFFORT TO.

2:12:49REACH PEOPLE EARLIER.

2:12:51BEFORE A COURT CASE.

2:12:53UH, HAPPENS AND TO WORK WITH

2:12:54TENANTS, LANDLORDS AND

2:12:55COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO.

2:12:56KEEP OUR RESIDENTS HOUSED.

2:13:01SKIPPING TO UH GOAL NUMBER FOUR

2:13:04UH EXPANDING HOUSING CHOICE FOR

2:13:05VOUCHER HOLDERS.

2:13:07SO UM YOU'VE.

2:13:07HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTARY ABOUT

2:13:09UM VOUCHER HOLDERS.

2:13:10SO THIS IS.

2:13:12UH UM.

2:13:13YOU KNOW, A.

2:13:14LOT OF THE ACTION ITEMS ARE LED

2:13:15BY THE BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY

2:13:16.

2:13:17SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

2:13:17THE ECHO MOBILITY.

2:13:19PROGRAM UM, WHICH UH IS STANDS

2:13:22FOR EXPANDED.

2:13:24UM EXCUSE ME.

2:13:25IT UH.

2:13:27IT HELPED FAMILIES GO TO

2:13:29EXPANDED CHOICE COMMUNITIES.

2:13:32UM AND SO THAT HELPS FAMILIES

2:13:33MOVE IN THE.

2:13:34SUMMER UM, PROVIDES UH,

2:13:36WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

2:13:37UM, SO.

2:13:38THAT HELPS UH, FAMILIES, YOU

2:13:40KNOW, NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT

2:13:42UH, CHANGING UH.

2:13:43SCHOOLS FOR THEIR.

2:13:44>> CHILDREN UM, MID-YEAR, UM,

2:13:46THERE WERE UH, 100 NEW UH,

2:13:48APPLICANTS.

2:13:49SEEKING ASSISTANCE.

2:13:50DURING LAST SUMMER.

2:13:51UM, AND SO THEY ALSO DO UM, YOU

2:13:54KNOW, AS PART OF THE WRAPAROUND

2:13:55WORK THEY.

2:13:55THEY DO.

2:13:56UH.

2:13:57>> POST MOVE.

2:13:57SUPPORT.

2:13:58>> UH, HOME VISITS.

2:14:00UM AND THEY ALSO.

2:14:01MAKE THESE.

2:14:01UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ADVANCED

2:14:03CONNECTIONS UH, WITH FAMILIES

2:14:05SO THAT THEY HAVE AN

2:14:06UNDERSTANDING OF UM, WHAT SORT

2:14:09OF NEIGHBORHOOD RESOURCES.

2:14:10LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE

2:14:11SCHOOLS.

2:14:11OFFER AND YOU KNOW, PARK SPACE

2:14:14ETC. UM, IN TERMS OF UH,

2:14:17REVIEWING ADMISSIONS, OCCUPANCY

2:14:18AND.

2:14:19OUTREACH POLICIES FOR.

2:14:20VHA.

2:14:22UM THE OCCUPANCY RATE.

2:14:24IS UM.

2:14:25CURRENTLY ABOUT 97%.

2:14:28UM IT IS UH.

2:14:30LOOKING TO USE INTERNAL

2:14:33RESOURCES TO RESTRUCTURE ITS

2:14:34WAITLIST.

2:14:35SO INTERNAL UM COMPUTER.

2:14:36SOFTWARE RESOURCES.

2:14:39UM THEY ARE UM SETTING UP

2:14:43REGULAR AND AUTOMATED NOTICES

2:14:44TO UPDATE APPLICANTS ABOUT

2:14:45THEIR.

2:14:45WAITLIST STATUS.

2:14:47UM AND IT'S ALSO SENT BY MAIL

2:14:49QUARTERLY.

2:14:49UM, SO IT'S HELPING UH IT'S A

2:14:52IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE SURE

2:14:53THAT FOLKS WHO ARE UH WAITING

2:14:55UM, ARE.

2:14:56JUST SORT.

2:14:57>> OF CLEARLY COMMUNICATED WITH

2:14:58HAVE REGULAR UPDATES.

2:15:00ABOUT UM WHERE THEIR

2:15:02APPLICATIONS ARE AT.

2:15:03UM.

2:15:08AND ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE UH HAS

2:15:10SHOWN THAT UM THERE HAS BEEN

2:15:13UM.

2:15:14SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS AT

2:15:15LEAST ON THE PROJECT BASED

2:15:17VOUCHER SIDE OF THE WAITLIST.

2:15:19UM AND EMPLOYEES AT THE BOSTON

2:15:21HOUSING AUTHORITY HAVE REPORTED

2:15:23THAT UM.

2:15:25IT IS UM.

2:15:27UH.

2:15:28>> YOU KNOW.

2:15:29>> EASIER AND MORE SMOOTH TO

2:15:31ENGAGE.

2:15:31WITH APPLICANTS BECAUSE THERE'S

2:15:33ALSO.

2:15:33>> UH, YOU.

2:15:34KNOW.

2:15:34>> YOU KNOW.

2:15:35>> THE ISSUE OF MAKING SURE

2:15:36THAT.

2:15:36APPLICANTS ARE.

2:15:37AWARE THAT THEY'VE GONE.

2:15:37>> OFF THE WAITLIST AND THEN

2:15:39QUICKLY.

2:15:39>> MOVE IN AND AND UM.

2:15:40UH AND RECEIVE UM SERVICES FROM

2:15:43BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY.

2:15:47UM GOAL NUMBER SEVEN UM WHICH

2:15:49WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UH QUITE A

2:15:51BIT UM, SO UM THAT IS USING

2:15:55ZONING AS A FAIR HOUSING TOOL.

2:15:57UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A

2:15:59LOT OF.

2:15:59UH.

2:16:00>> EXCLUSIONARY ZONING.

2:16:01UH, AND WE ARE UH AND HAVE BEEN

2:16:04WORKING TOWARDS UM, GETTING

2:16:07INCLUSIONARY ZONING.

2:16:08UM.

2:16:09THERE WAS.

2:16:10THE FAIR HOUSING AMENDMENT TO

2:16:12THE BOSTON ZONING CODE.

2:16:13>> UH, A FEW.

2:16:14YEARS AGO.

2:16:14AND SO, UM, WE CAN UM, YOU

2:16:19KNOW, UM.

2:16:20TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW

2:16:23EXCUSE ME ABOUT HOW WE HAVE,

2:16:27YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW ACTIONS

2:16:28RELATED TO THE PLANNING

2:16:30DEPARTMENT.

2:16:30UM, CONNECTS WITH THIS GOAL.

2:16:34UM, SO.

2:16:35UH, WE YOU.

2:16:36KNOW, IN THE PREVIOUS PANEL,

2:16:37UM, SOMEBODY UH, ADDRESSED.

2:16:40UH.

2:16:41>> THE AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

2:16:42FAIR HOUSING ZONING

2:16:43SELF-ASSESSMENT, UM, AND HOW

2:16:45THAT IS UH, WORKING OUT UM.

2:16:48THOSE SUBMISSIONS.

2:16:50BY DEVELOPERS ARE REVIEWED BY.

2:16:5350 UH, SO GIFT STANDS FOR THE

2:16:55BOSTON INTERAGENCY FAIR HOUSING

2:16:57DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.

2:16:58UM, THAT IS.

2:17:00A COMMITTEE.

2:17:01UH, OF.

2:17:02>> REPRESENTATIVES FROM UH.

2:17:04FIVE KEY.

2:17:05CITY DEPARTMENTS.

2:17:07UM, TO UM.

2:17:09DISCUSS THE FAIR.

2:17:11>> HOUSING.

2:17:11IMPLICATIONS OF EACH.

2:17:13ARTICLE 80 DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED

2:17:14.

2:17:15UM THE AGENCIES ARE UM CORRECT

2:17:18ME HELP ME OUT IF I GET THIS

2:17:20WRONG UH, BOSTON HOUSING

2:17:21AUTHORITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT,

2:17:22MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING.

2:17:23THE DISABILITIES.

2:17:24COMMISSION AND THE OFFICE

2:17:26OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY.

2:17:27SO.

2:17:28>> UM, EVERY TIME THERE'S A

2:17:30PROPOSAL.

2:17:30TO BE REVIEWED.

2:17:31UM, THERE IS A UM.

2:17:34CITY EMPLOYEE.

2:17:36>> WHO.

2:17:37CONVENES THOSE FIVE.

2:17:38REPRESENTATIVES THEY DISCUSS AT

2:17:39LENGTH.

2:17:40THEY CONSIDER WHAT HAS.

2:17:41>> BEEN SUBMITTED.

2:17:42UH, AND THEY MAKE

2:17:43RECOMMENDATIONS UM, AS TO UH,

2:17:45HOW TO ADVANCE FAIR HOUSING,

2:17:47UH, FOR UH EACH DEVELOPMENT.

2:17:54UM, AS I'M SURE THE COUNCIL.

2:17:56>> IS ALSO WELL AWARE, THE.

2:17:58CITY'S DOING A LOT OF.

2:17:59UPDATES TO.

2:18:00ZONING OVERALL.

2:18:01AND SO UM.

2:18:03I THINK THE.

2:18:05UH THE THE.

2:18:06THREAD HERE IS THAT UM THERE IS

2:18:11UH, EFFORT.

2:18:13TO UM, INCORPORATE FAIR HOUSING

2:18:15.

2:18:15PRINCIPLES INTO THIS WORK.

2:18:18SO FOR.

2:18:18EXAMPLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD

2:18:19HOUSING.

2:18:20ZONING UH INITIATIVE UM.

2:18:22YOU KNOW.

2:18:22IT'S IT'S TRYING TO HELP REMOVE

2:18:24BARRIERS FOR.

2:18:25SMALL PROJECTS.

2:18:26FOR UH.

2:18:27INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS.

2:18:29UM, SO.

2:18:31UM THAT.

2:18:33IS UM.

2:18:33>> SORT.

2:18:34OF WOVEN.

2:18:35IN UM AND.

2:18:37UH THE UH OFFICE OF FAIR

2:18:38HOUSING AND EQUITY.

2:18:40UM ALSO IS UH PLAYING A.

2:18:42ROLE IN WEIGHING IN ON UH

2:18:45ARTICLE.

2:18:45>> 80.

2:18:46UH MODERNIZATION.

2:18:51SO UH, GOAL.

2:18:5211 IS.

2:18:52UH.

2:18:53>> SUPPORTING RESIDENTS.

2:18:54FACING DISPLACEMENT.

2:18:56UM, THERE IS UM.

2:18:59THE TWO.

2:19:00THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS.

2:19:01FIRST A.

2:19:02PARTICULAR PROGRAM WHICH IS

2:19:03LOTTERY PREFERENCE OR A

2:19:04PARTICULAR.

2:19:04POLICY EXCUSE ME LOTTERY

2:19:05PREFERENCE.

2:19:06FOR INCOME.

2:19:07>> RESTRICTED HOUSING.

2:19:08UH HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED FOR

2:19:09DIRECTLY.

2:19:09DISPLACED AND SEVERELY.

2:19:10RENT BURDENED.

2:19:11HOUSEHOLDS.

2:19:13AND UM.

2:19:15THE OTHER THING I WANT TO

2:19:16HIGHLIGHT IS.

2:19:17THE CITY'S ANTI.

2:19:18DISPLACEMENT ACTION PLAN A

2:19:19PLACE TO THRIVE AND HOW IT.

2:19:21ADDRESSES THIS GOAL.

2:19:22UM THE YEAR ONE PROJECT.

2:19:24SUPPORT WAS.

2:19:24JUST RELEASED.

2:19:25UH AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT

2:19:27UH, THREE OF UH THE NOTABLE

2:19:30ITEMS UH IN WHICH.

2:19:31CITIES MADE PROGRESS.

2:19:32THE FIRST IS.

2:19:32ACCESS TO COUNCILOR FOR

2:19:34FAMILIES.

2:19:35>> SO THIS IS, UH, LEGAL

2:19:36COUNCILOR.

2:19:37UH, FOR FAMILIES.

2:19:38UM.

2:19:39>> UH, FACING EVICTION.

2:19:42UM, THE NEXT IS THE.

2:19:44SHORE UP.

2:19:45PILOT THAT STANDS FOR.

2:19:46STABILIZING HOUSING.

2:19:48FOR OUR.

2:19:48>> RESIDENT ELDERS UNDER

2:19:49PRESSURE.

2:19:50SO I WAS A PILOT.

2:19:51PROGRAM, UM, FOR TARGETED

2:19:53SHORT.

2:19:54>> TERM SUBSIDIES TO.

2:19:55PROTECT LOW INCOME OLDER

2:19:56ADULTS.

2:19:56FROM EVICTION.

2:19:57>> WHILE.

2:19:57THEY WERE.

2:19:58>> PLACEMENT IN PERMANENTLY

2:19:59AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

2:19:59SO IT'S, UH IT'S.

2:20:00>> A STOPGAP MEASURE.

2:20:02UM, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS A LONG

2:20:04TERM SOLUTION.

2:20:05UH, AT THE END OF IT.

2:20:07UM, SO THE BOSTON HOUSING

2:20:09AUTHORITY, UM, HAS OVERSIGHT

2:20:10OVER THAT.

2:20:10THERE'S A MONTHLY.

2:20:11WORKING GROUP.

2:20:12UM, WITH THE UH OFFICE OF.

2:20:14HOUSING STABILITY.

2:20:15WITHIN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

2:20:16OF HOUSING, THE BOSTON HOUSING

2:20:17AUTHORITY AND ITS STRONG

2:20:19COMMISSION.

2:20:20AND THE LAST THING IS THE

2:20:21CONDOMINIUM AND COOPERATIVE

2:20:23CONVERSION.

2:20:23ORDINANCE.

2:20:24>> UM, THAT IS BEING.

2:20:26PROPOSED.

2:20:26>> UH, RIGHT NOW.

2:20:27AND SO, UM AND I KNOW THAT UM

2:20:31THAT.

2:20:31IS THERE'S CONVERSATIONS.

2:20:33>> WITH UH, THE COUNCIL ON THAT

2:20:35FOR.

2:20:35>> KEY.

2:20:35CHANGES THAT WILL EXPAND AND

2:20:38STRENGTHEN TENANT PROTECTIONS

2:20:40AND IMPROVE COMPLIANCE.

2:20:44LASTLY, FOR ME, I JUST WANTED

2:20:46TO UH, HIGHLIGHT UH, TWO OTHER

2:20:48ACTION ITEMS THAT FALL.

2:20:49>> UNDER OTHER GOALS.

2:20:50UH, THE FIRST IS.

2:20:51INCREASING THE SUPPLY.

2:20:52OF INCOME RESTRICTED

2:20:53HOMEOWNERSHIP PROPERTIES UM.

2:20:56THROUGH WELCOME.

2:20:56HOME BOSTON.

2:20:57UM, THERE'S UM.

2:20:59CONSTRUCTION NEARLY COMPLETED.

2:21:01WITH UNITS UH.

2:21:03>> IS BEING MADE AVAILABLE.

2:21:04STARTING THIS FALL.

2:21:05>> FOR PHASE ONE, PHASE.

2:21:07TWO 4 TO 6 TEAMS.

2:21:08ARE UH ARE UM DOING

2:21:11CONSTRUCTION FINANCING

2:21:13CLOSINGS.

2:21:13>> FOR THE OTHER.

2:21:14>> TWO TEAMS ARE EXPECTED THIS.

2:21:15WEEK UH AND FOR PHASE THREE UM

2:21:17SEVEN.

2:21:18DEVELOPMENT TEAMS HAVE BEEN

2:21:19SELECTED.

2:21:19THEY'RE ALL CURRENTLY DOING DUE

2:21:21DILIGENCE.

2:21:22UH AND THE PROJECT IS CLOSING.

2:21:23>> IN FALL 2027.

2:21:26THE OTHER ACTION ITEM UM IS

2:21:28ENSURING THAT.

2:21:28CITY DEPARTMENTS COLLECTING THE

2:21:30DATA NECESSARY TO EVALUATE

2:21:32THEIR WORK.

2:21:34UM, TWO MAJOR ITEMS THAT WE'RE

2:21:36DOING UM, TO MOVE THAT FORWARD

2:21:39IS UM UH A PRE-APPLICATION ON

2:21:43HOUSING GOT BOSTON GOV THAT IS

2:21:45A CONSOLIDATED HOUSING

2:21:47APPLICATION UM AND THAT WILL

2:21:48HELP US HAVE DEMOGRAPHIC

2:21:50INFORMATION UM ON HOUSING

2:21:52APPLICANTS AND THE NEXT PIECE

2:21:53IS SORT OF A PLANNING PIECE

2:21:55THAT UH LAYS THE FOUNDATION SO

2:21:57THAT WE CAN UM, TRACK THE

2:21:59CONSTITUENT JOURNEY FROM THE

2:22:01LOTTERY TO THE LEASE AND THE

2:22:03OCCUPANCY.

2:22:05AND I'LL HAND IT OVER TO MY

2:22:07COLLEAGUE DWAYNE.

2:22:09THANKS.

2:22:10>> SO SO.

2:22:12F EIGHT FH.

2:22:13BEYOND THE FH.

2:22:15OUTREACH AND EDUCATION.

2:22:16UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

2:22:18WE DO IN OUR SHOP IS THAT WE

2:22:20PROVIDE OUTREACH.

2:22:21>> AND EDUCATION TO.

2:22:23DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN

2:22:25THE COMMUNITY.

2:22:26SPECIFICALLY RESIDENTS IN THIS

2:22:28PARTICULAR CASE.

2:22:28SO FOR THE COMMUNITY SIDE, UM,

2:22:31WE TOOK A STEP BACK LAST YEAR

2:22:32LAST FISCAL YEAR AND SORT

2:22:34OF CHANGED THE WAY THAT WE DID

2:22:36COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

2:22:37AND EDUCATION.

2:22:38UH, WE PARTNERED UP WITH OUR

2:22:40ADMIN TEAM.

2:22:41UM, SHOUT.

2:22:42OUT TO RASHAD MORRISON AND

2:22:44SUSAN MCCULLEN.

2:22:45WHO HELPED US PUT TOGETHER.

2:22:47UM, AN ACTION.

2:22:48PLAN UM, BUT AN ENGAGEMENT PLAN

2:22:51THAT THAT UM THAT UH THAT UH,

2:22:55PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

2:22:57RIGHT.

2:22:57SO WE WENT OUT AND HIRED A UH

2:22:59AN EVENT PLANNER AND WE LOOKED

2:23:01AT THE MOST ACTIVE TIME FRAMES

2:23:03UM, WITHIN.

2:23:04>> A.

2:23:04YEAR WHICH FOR US IS GENERALLY

2:23:05RUNNING FROM MARCH UNTIL THE

2:23:07END OF JUNE.

2:23:08UM, SO WE CONTRACTED WITH THE

2:23:09EVENT PLANNER AND AND.

2:23:11AND BECAUSE OF THAT WORK

2:23:12BECAUSE OF THAT COLLABORATION,

2:23:14BECAUSE.

2:23:15OF UM THE EFFORTS OF THE STAFF

2:23:16WITHIN THE OFFICE OF FAIR

2:23:18HOUSING AND EQUITY IN A ENOUGH

2:23:20UM WE HAD QUADRUPLED.

2:23:22THE THE 26.

2:23:23OUTREACH GOAL.

2:23:25>> OF 8000.

2:23:25CONSTITUENTS REACHED AND.

2:23:28UM AND THEN IN FY 27 OUR.

2:23:30OUTREACH EDUCATION STRATEGY

2:23:31WORK.

2:23:33WE WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT

2:23:33ALREADY HAVE COMMUNITY TRUST.

2:23:35SO ONE OF THE BARRIERS THAT WE

2:23:36HAVE AS A AS A DEPARTMENT IS

2:23:39ONE THAT PEOPLE DON'T PEOPLE

2:23:40DON'T KNOW US INTO.

2:23:42ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE

2:23:44HAVE IS THAT UM, THEY DON'T

2:23:45TRUST US.

2:23:47UM, AND AND WE'VE HAD TO SORT

2:23:49OF RELY HEAVILY ON ON

2:23:51STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE.

2:23:52THAT TRUST WITH THE.

2:23:54CONSTITUENTS THAT WE WANT TO

2:23:55SERVE.

2:23:56SO WE PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM

2:23:57AND WE WERE ABLE.

2:23:58TO IN APRIL WE WERE ABLE TO.

2:24:01UM INTO INTO A COLLABORATION

2:24:03WITH FINANCIAL EDUCATION

2:24:04ASSOCIATES, WHICH IS.

2:24:05THE MAIN HOMEBUYER EDUCATION

2:24:06PROVIDER FOR THE FIRST TIME

2:24:08HOME BUYING STUFF.

2:24:09SO WE.

2:24:09>> TALKED TO FAMILIES ABOUT.

2:24:10FAIR HOUSING IN THE AFFORDABLE.

2:24:13>> HOME LOTTERIES.

2:24:14HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THEM?

2:24:15WHAT DO THEY.

2:24:15>> NEED TO WORK FOR?

2:24:16WHAT DOES DISCRIMINATION LOOK

2:24:17LIKE?

2:24:18IN MAY.

2:24:20WE SPONSORED UM A YOUTH

2:24:22HOMELESS EVENT UM SYMPOSIUM.

2:24:24WHICH ATTRACTED.

2:24:25>> ABOUT 200 YOUTH.

2:24:27UH WE TALKED ABOUT.

2:24:28>> WE BROUGHT IN DIFFERENT UM

2:24:29HOMELESS PROVIDERS WHO BROUGHT

2:24:31.

2:24:31>> IN SOME.

2:24:31WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FOLKS.

2:24:32IT WAS REALLY.

2:24:34UM AN IDEA.

2:24:35UM, THAT CAME FROM A GOOD

2:24:37FRIEND.

2:24:37>> OF MINE, JEANNIE MARTOS.

2:24:39UM, WHO IS WHO I USED TO TALK

2:24:41TO ALL THE TIME.

2:24:41ABOUT YOUTH HOMELESSNESS AND

2:24:42WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT PROVIDING

2:24:44SUPPORT TO YOUTH.

2:24:45HOMELESS UM TO HOMELESS.

2:24:47>> YOUTH.

2:24:47UM IN THAT THAT THAT.

2:24:49EVENT WAS ATTENDED UH IN MAINE

2:24:51AND.

2:24:51>> WE HAD A REALLY GOOD

2:24:52RESPONSE FROM THAT.

2:24:53EVENT AND THEN IN JUNE.

2:24:55UM, WE PARTICIPATED.

2:24:56IN THE JUNETEENTH EVENT UP AT

2:24:57FRANKLIN PARK.

2:24:58>> AND IT WAS.

2:24:58ABOUT 3000.

2:24:59PEOPLE 4000 PEOPLE.

2:25:00THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MARKET THE

2:25:02OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE.

2:25:04WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

2:25:04TALK ABOUT.

2:25:05I-S-D.

2:25:06>> TALK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT,

2:25:07TALK ABOUT UM, HOUSING

2:25:09STABILITY, TALK ABOUT THE RATH.

2:25:10PROGRAM.

2:25:11>> BUT GIVE THEM INFORMATION

2:25:12NOT NECESSARILY.

2:25:13INFORMATION THAT.

2:25:15>> WOULD COME TO OUR SHOP.

2:25:16.

2:25:17>> UM, BUT WRAPAROUND SERVICES

2:25:18THAT FOLKS HAVE.

2:25:19>> BEEN IN.

2:25:20IN IN AND THAT'S DESPERATELY

2:25:21NEEDED.

2:25:21BECAUSE WHEN FOLKS COME TO OUR

2:25:23SHOP.

2:25:24UM THEY GENERALLY DON'T COME

2:25:25FOR FAIR HOUSING UM VIOLATIONS.

2:25:27THEY GENERALLY COME FOR OTHER

2:25:29TYPE OF HOUSING VIOLATIONS BUT

2:25:30FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE UM THEY.

2:25:32JUST WANT THE ASSISTANCE.

2:25:34SO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH

2:25:35SOME WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND

2:25:36CONNECT THEM.

2:25:37WITH OTHER.

2:25:38AGENCIES THAT CAN THAT CAN

2:25:40ASSIST.

2:25:41UM AND THEN WHAT WHAT I.

2:25:43REALLY ENJOYED DOING LAST YEAR

2:25:45WAS WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S.

2:25:46OFFICE IN.

2:25:47DOING UM THE.

2:25:49COFFEE HOURS WHICH WERE

2:25:50SCATTERED.

2:25:50THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

2:25:51UM AND I REALLY.

2:25:52>> LOVED DOING WITH THE STAFF

2:25:53WE REALLY LOVE DOING UM THE THE

2:25:55COMMUNITY.

2:25:56SAFETY UH, VILLAGE VIBES.

2:25:58EVENTS THAT WERE SCATTERED.

2:26:00>> THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL

2:26:00IN.

2:26:01ROSLINDALE AND MATTAPAN.

2:26:02>> AND DORCHESTER.

2:26:02AND MADISON PARK.

2:26:03HIGH SCHOOL.

2:26:04MADISON PARK UM DOWN ON

2:26:07RUGGLES.

2:26:07UM BUT WE BUT WE BUT WE WENT TO

2:26:09WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE.

2:26:10UM AND WE TRY.

2:26:11TO DEAL WITH THEM BUT WE DID

2:26:13DEAL WITH THEM WHERE THEY ARE

2:26:15AND WE AND.

2:26:16>> WE.

2:26:16AND WE JUST PROVIDE.

2:26:17THEM WITH INFORMATION SO THAT

2:26:18THEY CAN CONNECT TO SERVICES

2:26:19THROUGHOUT THE.

2:26:20CITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

2:26:21UM.

2:26:22>> THE OTHER EFFORTS.

2:26:24>> THAT WE'RE DOING UM, IN IN

2:26:25THE PANEL BEFORE IS.

2:26:26TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IS

2:26:28THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY.

2:26:29SPENDING TIME WORKING WITH CITY

2:26:30EMPLOYEES TO HELP THEM

2:26:32UNDERSTAND.

2:26:32WHAT WE DO.

2:26:34UM, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS

2:26:35THAT FOLKS JUST DON'T.

2:26:36UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO RIGHT?

2:26:38AND AND WE HAVE TO.

2:26:39>> BE.

2:26:39MORE INTENTIONAL.

2:26:40WITH TALKING TO OTHER CITY

2:26:43DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY THE

2:26:44ONES THAT ARE PART OF THE FH

2:26:46WORK.

2:26:47UM, TODAY UM.

2:26:50UH UH.

2:26:51>> THE E AND I ACADEMY ARE.

2:26:52HOSTING THE FIRST COHORT.

2:26:53>> TODAY THAT UM.

2:26:54THAT I THAT I.

2:26:55AM SUPPOSED TO BE AT BUT I'M

2:26:56HERE.

2:26:57UM AND WE'RE TALKING.

2:26:59TO OTHER.

2:26:59CITY DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHAT WE

2:27:01DO, HOW WE DO IT.

2:27:02AND WHY THEY NEED TO LEAN ON.

2:27:04THE EQUITY INCLUSION CABINET.

2:27:06UM, TO HELP.

2:27:07THEM SORT OF RESOLVE WHATEVER

2:27:08THEIR ISSUES ARE THAT THEY'RE

2:27:09FACING WITH.

2:27:11SO UM SO WE'RE DOING THAT UM,

2:27:13WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY

2:27:15EMPLOYEES AND THEN WE ALSO.

2:27:16IDENTIFY SPECIAL GROUPS AND

2:27:17WE'RE.

2:27:17VERY INTENTIONAL ON THESE.

2:27:19SPECIAL GROUPS.

2:27:19WE WE WORK WITH.

2:27:20YOUNG SALES.

2:27:22REAL ESTATE.

2:27:23SALESPERSONS WHO UM WHO ARE

2:27:25ENGAGING.

2:27:26INTO THE WORK FOR THE.

2:27:27>> FIRST TIME.

2:27:28>> THEY'RE THEY ARE THE

2:27:29GATEKEEPERS.

2:27:30OF OF.

2:27:31OF OF THESE AFFORDABLE

2:27:33OPPORTUNITIES ALL THESE HOUSING

2:27:34OPPORTUNITIES.

2:27:34SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY.

2:27:35UNDERSTAND UM WHAT'S REQUIRED.

2:27:38UM FROM A FAIR.

2:27:38HOUSING PERSPECTIVE WE ALSO

2:27:39WORK WITH LANDLORDS.

2:27:40WE WORK WITH REAL ESTATE

2:27:41BROKERS, WE WORK WITH UH

2:27:43NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

2:27:45UM AND WE JUST POP UP AT

2:27:46DIFFERENT EVENTS.

2:27:48UM ALL.

2:27:48THROUGHOUT THE CITY JUST

2:27:49SHARING INFORMATION, JUST

2:27:50MAKING SURE THAT FOLKS.

2:27:52UM, UNDERSTAND UM THEIR RIGHTS

2:27:55AND AND AND AND HOW TO FILE

2:27:57COMPLAINTS.

2:28:02AND THEN LAST SUGGEST.

2:28:05UM SO UH JUST WANTED TO ALSO

2:28:08SHARE UM, UH A COUPLE TWO BITS

2:28:10UH, ABOUT HOW THE UM OFFICE

2:28:14OF FAIR HOUSING EQUITY, UH, IS

2:28:16INVOLVED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION

2:28:17.

2:28:18UH.

2:28:18>> SIDE OF AFFIRMATIVELY

2:28:20FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING.

2:28:21SO, UM, UH, WE'VE SPOKEN A

2:28:24LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW, UH,

2:28:26WORKS, UH, AND HOW IT IS PART

2:28:29OF THE A F H ZONING, UM, ASPECT

2:28:33OF HOW THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

2:28:35DOES ITS WORK.

2:28:36UM, AND SO THE WAY IT WORKS IS

2:28:38UM FOR ARTICLE 80 PROJECTS

2:28:39WHICH ARE LARGE DEVELOPMENT

2:28:41PROJECTS, THEY MUST CHOOSE ONE

2:28:43FAIR HOUSING INTERVENTION AND

2:28:44ONE MARKETING INTERVENTION.

2:28:45AND THEN BEFORE UM, CONSIDERS

2:28:48THOSE UH, INTERVENTIONS UH, AND

2:28:50JUST ONE KEY METRIC UH, IN

2:28:53TERMS OF PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN

2:28:54MADE IS UH IMMEDIATELY BEFORE

2:28:57THIS WAS.

2:28:57IMPLEMENTED.

2:28:58>> UM INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS

2:29:01FOR UM 60% MI AND BELOW UH WAS

2:29:06AT 4.8% UM IN UH FOR THOSE UH

2:29:10THAT SORT OF 5 OR 6 YEAR SPAN

2:29:12AND IN THE SUBSEQUENT

2:29:13COMPARABLE SPAN IT'S UH RISEN

2:29:17TO 18.9%.

2:29:20UM THE SECOND PIECE.

2:29:21IS THE CITY'S.

2:29:22UH ANTI DISPLACEMENT PLAN.

2:29:24SO THIS IS UM A UH AN EXAMPLE

2:29:28OF HOW HAVING UM THE OFFICE

2:29:30OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY

2:29:32BEING UM VIEWED NOT JUST AS UH

2:29:36AN ENFORCEMENT AGENCY BUT AS A

2:29:38PROACTIVE AGENCY THAT.

2:29:39>> DOES THE POLICY WORK.

2:29:41UM, IS KEY UM, EARLY ON, UM,

2:29:45THE UH THE OFFICE AND THE UH

2:29:48PLANNING ADVISORY COUNCIL, UH,

2:29:50WORK TOGETHER TO UM, SORT

2:29:52OF DEVELOP THE PLAN AND AS A

2:29:54RESULT, UH, FAIR HOUSING

2:29:55PRINCIPLES ARE FULLY INTEGRATED

2:29:56INTO THE PLAN AND UM, THERE ARE

2:29:59MORE THAN 25 REFERENCES UH, TO

2:30:02FAIR HOUSING, UH, EMBEDDED INTO

2:30:03THE PLAN AND THAT DIRECTLY

2:30:05LINKS UM, THINGS LIKE THE

2:30:07DISPLACEMENT RISK MAP, UM, TO

2:30:10THE UH ASSESSMENT OF FAIR

2:30:12HOUSING ACTION ITEMS.

2:30:15UM.

2:30:16SO UH, WITH THAT I JUST WANT TO

2:30:18THANK YOU ALL FOR UH FOR YOUR

2:30:19TIME AND, UM.

2:30:21UM, WE'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS.

2:30:23THANK YOU.

2:30:24UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT

2:30:25AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK

2:30:26YOU DO.

2:30:28QUITE HONESTLY THAT IS A LOT

2:30:29OF WORK AND VERY GRATEFUL THAT

2:30:32THIS OFFICE EXISTS.

2:30:33UM, OKAY.

2:30:35SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO

2:30:37MOVE TO QUESTIONS FROM MY

2:30:38COLLEAGUES.

2:30:38I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM EACH

2:30:40FIVE MINUTES AND THEN IF THEY

2:30:41HAVE FOLLOW UP I'LL GIVE EXTRA

2:30:43TIME AS WELL.

2:30:44AND YEAH SO STARTING WITH

2:30:46SPONSOR COUNCILOR WORRELL.

2:30:48THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU

2:30:50FOR.

2:30:50BEING HERE AND ALL THE WORK

2:30:51THAT YOU DO AROUND FAIR

2:30:52HOUSING.

2:30:52UM A FEW QUESTIONS AND I KNOW

2:30:54I'M UH IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE

2:30:56QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL CULPEPER

2:30:57IS GOING TO ASK, BUT I'M GONNA

2:30:58GO AHEAD AND STEAL IT.

2:30:59UH, RIGHT NOW THE OFFICE

2:31:01DOESN'T HAVE AN EXECUTIVE

2:31:02DIRECTOR.

2:31:02CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THE

2:31:04STATUS OF BRINGING SOMEONE ON?

2:31:08UM, WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE CLOSE

2:31:10TO HAVING AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

2:31:12,UM, BEFORE THE END OF THE

2:31:13YEAR.

2:31:14UH, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ROLE AND,

2:31:15UM, WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT.

2:31:17AWESOME.

2:31:18>> AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER

2:31:21POSITIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY

2:31:22ADVOCATES UH, COMMUNITY PANEL

2:31:24HAS, UM, UH, ELEVATED WAS THE

2:31:26EDUCATION AND OUTREACH

2:31:28COORDINATOR OF PUBLIC POLICY

2:31:29AND SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER

2:31:31TEAM.

2:31:31AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE'S

2:31:33OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE AND

2:31:34FINANCE STAFF.

2:31:36IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A FEW

2:31:37OPEN POSITIONS INSIDE OF THE

2:31:38FAIR HOUSING.

2:31:39CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THE

2:31:40STATUS OF EACH OF THOSE

2:31:41POSITIONS?

2:31:42SURE.

2:31:43>> UM, SO UH, THE UH, OUTREACH

2:31:46AND EDUCATION ROLE IS VACANT.

2:31:48UM, I'LL I'LL PASS IT TO DUANE

2:31:49AFTER I GO THROUGH THE OTHER

2:31:51ROLES TO UH TO YOU KNOW, GO

2:31:53OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT

2:31:54HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH IT AS WE

2:31:55SORT OF HIGHLIGHTED, UM, IN THE

2:31:57PRESENTATION, UM, THE PUBLIC

2:31:59POLICY AND SPECIAL PROJECTS

2:32:01MANAGER ROLE UH, WAS RECENTLY

2:32:03VACATED.

2:32:04UM, SO WE ARE UH, EXPLORING UM,

2:32:07SORT OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND

2:32:09HOW WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE

2:32:11POSITION THAT ROLE PROPERLY, UM

2:32:13,SO THAT IT DOESN'T SORT

2:32:15OF STAND ALONE BY ITSELF.

2:32:17UM, AND HAS THE ADEQUATE

2:32:18SUPPORTS.

2:32:18IT NEEDS TO GET IT TO.

2:32:20>> WORK DONE.

2:32:21UM, AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND

2:32:23FINANCE UH, ROLE UM.

2:32:27UH I GUESS THE BEST WAY TO

2:32:28CHARACTERIZING IT IS THE UH THE

2:32:31ADMINISTRATION FINANCE

2:32:32FUNCTIONS OF THE INDIVIDUAL

2:32:34DEPARTMENTS IN EQUITY AND

2:32:35INCLUSION WHICH ARE ALL, YOU

2:32:36KNOW, BY CITY STANDARDS

2:32:38RELATIVELY SMALL DEPARTMENTS.

2:32:39UH, HAVE BEEN CENTRALIZED.

2:32:41UM, UH UH WITHIN THE OFFICE

2:32:44OF EQUITY.

2:32:44SO UNDER THE CABINET THERE IS

2:32:46NOW UH A 4.

2:32:50>> OR.

2:32:515 PERSON UM ADMINISTRATION AND

2:32:52FINANCE TEAM.

2:32:53AND SO UH, DUANE ALLUDED TO

2:32:54THAT OF HOW TWO MEMBERS OF THAT

2:32:56TEAM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTED UM,

2:32:58THE OFFICE'S WORK IN

2:33:01ACCOMPLISHING UH MAJOR.

2:33:01PROJECT UH, BUT DOING OUR

2:33:04CAPACITY TO SPEAK UP.

2:33:04THANK YOU OBVIOUSLY FOR THE.

2:33:07THE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION

2:33:08PIECE.

2:33:09UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHEN

2:33:11THAT.

2:33:11POSITION IS GOING TO BE FILLED.

2:33:13WE HAVE REVIEWED UM.

2:33:16THE JOB.

2:33:17>> DESCRIPTION AGAIN TO MAKE.

2:33:17SURE THAT UH, IT FITS THE ROLE

2:33:19THAT WE WE'D LIKE IT TO FIT.

2:33:22UM, RIGHT NOW I'M TAKING OVER.

2:33:23THOSE THOSE THOSE

2:33:25RESPONSIBILITIES WITH

2:33:26ASSISTANCE.

2:33:26FROM MY STAFF.

2:33:27I'VE GOT FOUR INVESTIGATORS ONE

2:33:29INTAKE SPECIALIST UM, WHICH ARE

2:33:32ALL DOING, YOU.

2:33:33>> KNOW, AND NOW A DIRECTOR OF.

2:33:34INVESTIGATIONS WHICH IS.

2:33:36UM AND THEY'RE ALL DOING

2:33:37THEY'RE ALL DOING A FABULOUS

2:33:38JOB PHENOMENAL JOB WITH.

2:33:40UM HELPING RESIDENTS UM, FILE

2:33:42COMPLAINTS AND.

2:33:43>> SORT OF WALK THROUGH

2:33:44WHATEVER THE HOUSING.

2:33:44>> ISSUES THAT THEY'RE HAVING.

2:33:46UM.

2:33:49GIVE ME MORE INFORMATION AND

2:33:50ANOTHER TIME.

2:33:50ABOUT THE OUTREACH PIECE BUT

2:33:52BUT IT'S A PIECE THAT WE.

2:33:55UM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON UM,

2:33:57BUT NOT QUITE SURE WHEN.

2:33:58THAT WHEN THAT.

2:33:59POSITION IS GOING TO GET

2:33:59FILLED.

2:34:00HOW MANY VACANT POSITIONS DO WE

2:34:01HAVE IN THE.

2:34:02DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN

2:34:04EXECUTIVE.

2:34:05DIRECTOR, THE PROGRAM MANAGER.

2:34:07>> FOR OUTREACH AND EDUCATION

2:34:08AND THESE SPECIAL UM SPECIAL

2:34:11PROJECTS.

2:34:12UM POLICY MANAGER WHICH USED TO

2:34:14BE JOYCE.

2:34:15SYLVIA GONZALEZ.

2:34:16SO ONLY THREE VACANT POSITIONS

2:34:17HISTORY.

2:34:18ALL RIGHT.

2:34:18>> AND THEN ONE ON ONE WAS VERY

2:34:19RECENTLY VACANT.

2:34:20YEAH AWESOME.

2:34:21AND THEN.

2:34:21TWO OUT OF THE THREE JOBS HAVE

2:34:23BEEN POSTED AND IT SEEMS LIKE

2:34:25ONE OUT OF THREE WE'RE KIND

2:34:26OF NEARING FINALIZING WHO'S

2:34:28COMING IN.

2:34:30YEAH THE.

2:34:31AS I MENTIONED UM.

2:34:33WE'RE VERY.

2:34:34VERY CLOSE.

2:34:34WITH UM WITH THE EDDIE.

2:34:36UM I DON'T I DON'T RECALL THE

2:34:39OUTREACH PROGRAM.

2:34:41>> MANAGER FOR OUTREACH AND

2:34:42EDUCATION.

2:34:42WE MEAN BEING.

2:34:42POSTED IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE

2:34:44WORKING ON INTERNALLY.

2:34:44OKAY.

2:34:46UM AND THEN AND THEN UM.

2:34:48JOYCE'S POSITION THE POLICY.

2:34:51UM, THE.

2:34:52POLICY PERSON IS JUST VACATED

2:34:53ABOUT.

2:34:54A MONTH.

2:34:54>> YOU HAVE TO GO TWO.

2:34:55MONTHS AGO.

2:34:56>> YEAH.

2:34:56>> ALL RIGHT.

2:34:57AND THEN I WAS JUST TAKING A

2:34:57LOOK AT THE FAIR HOUSING, UH,

2:34:59WEBSITE AROUND.

2:35:01COMMISSION MEMBERS.

2:35:02YEAH.

2:35:02>> AND I SEE THAT THERE'S ONE

2:35:04VACANT POSITION.

2:35:05UM, ANY REASON WHY THAT

2:35:08POSITION IS VACANT?

2:35:09I THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE

2:35:10FIVE.

2:35:10WE HAVE FOUR.

2:35:13YEAH.

2:35:14>> THE THE.

2:35:15ANOTHER AREA OF IMPROVEMENT IS

2:35:17SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE

2:35:17WORKING ON AS WELL.

2:35:18WE WE WE CONSTANTLY HAVE WHERE

2:35:21WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT

2:35:23IDENTIFYING A NEW COMMISSIONER.

2:35:25THERE ARE SOME UM.

2:35:28UH NOT.

2:35:29CONSTRAINTS BUT THERE ARE SOME.

2:35:30REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT

2:35:32ELIGIBILITY ELIGIBILITY

2:35:33REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT FOR THAT

2:35:34SLOT.

2:35:35UM IT HASN'T BEEN PRIORITIZED

2:35:37LIKE.

2:35:38>> I'D LIKE IT TO BE BUT.

2:35:39BUT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE.

2:35:40ARE SOMEWHAT CONCERNED ABOUT.

2:35:42MAKING SURE.

2:35:43>> THAT WE.

2:35:44HAVE THIS FIFTH.

2:35:45COMMISSIONER TO MAKE SURE THAT

2:35:46WE HAVE QUORUMS.

2:35:47>> AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

2:35:48SO SO SO SO IT'S ON.

2:35:50>> THE LIST BUT WE JUST.

2:35:50HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T BEND IT OUT

2:35:51YET.

2:35:51RIGHT.

2:35:52>> AND AND JUST FOR UM

2:35:55TRANSPARENCY THAT COMMISSION

2:35:56MEMBER IS A SUPPOSED TO BE A

2:35:58TENANT CORRECT.

2:36:00LIKE THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THAT

2:36:01COMMISSION SEAT IS SUPPOSED TO

2:36:03BE A RENTER.

2:36:04IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEONE

2:36:05THAT IS INCOME ELIGIBLE.

2:36:07TO LIVE IN.

2:36:08IN IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.

2:36:09GOT IT.

2:36:10>> AND WITHOUT THAT

2:36:11REPRESENTATION WE'RE KIND

2:36:12OF MISSING THAT VOICE AT THE

2:36:14COMMISSION.

2:36:15UM CORRECT US.

2:36:16ALL RIGHT.

2:36:17WELL WELL WE'D LOVE TO YOU

2:36:19KNOW, PUT THAT AS A PRIORITY AS

2:36:21WELL.

2:36:21AND ON TOP OF THE OTHER

2:36:22POSITIONS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT

2:36:23WE DO HAVE THOSE COMMISSION

2:36:25SEATS AND THAT WE HAVE A FULLY

2:36:27REPRESENTED COMMISSION.

2:36:30UM I KNOW THAT'S MY TIME.

2:36:32THANK YOU.

2:36:33WELCOME.

2:36:35>> UH.

2:36:36>> COUNCILOR COPE UP.

2:36:37AH, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

2:36:38THANK YOU, MR CHAIR ONCE AGAIN

2:36:39FOR CONDUCTING THIS HEARING AND

2:36:43THANK THE ADMINISTRATION.

2:36:46UH.

2:36:47>> LEADERS WHO HAVE COME TO.

2:36:51AND LIKE.

2:36:52NOTHING I THANK THE PUBLIC GOT

2:36:54A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FAIR

2:36:57HOUSING DIRECTOR.

2:36:58TELL ME WHAT CLOSE MEANS

2:37:00BECAUSE THIS SUMMER THEY WERE

2:37:02CLOSED.

2:37:02THEY SAID THEY WOULD HAVE A

2:37:04DIRECTOR.

2:37:05>> BY.

2:37:05THE END OF.

2:37:06>> THE SUMMER.

2:37:06UH, WE'RE IN SEPTEMBER NOW AND

2:37:09YOU'RE TELLING ME CLOSE.

2:37:10BUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR WHAT

2:37:13IS CLOSE TO ME?

2:37:13HOW CLOSE ARE WE INTERVIEWING?

2:37:18UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT

2:37:20WHAT I AM PERMITTED TO SAY

2:37:22RELATED TO A PERSONNEL MATTER.

2:37:24UM, WELL, THAT IS NOT A

2:37:26PERSONNEL MATTER YET, BUT ARE

2:37:28WE INTERVIEWING?

2:37:31IS THAT WE HAVE.

2:37:32COMPLETED INTERVIEWS.

2:37:34OKAY.

2:37:35>> AND SO YOU THINK BY DECEMBER

2:37:38WE WILL HAVE.

2:37:38SOMEONE IN THAT SLOT?

2:37:41YES.

2:37:42>> OKAY.

2:37:44I WANT TO GO, UH, LOOK AT THE

2:37:4814 GOALS AND 108 ACTS HIMSELF.

2:37:50SO YOU'VE GOT FIVE LEVELS, UH,

2:37:54OF ASSESSMENT, INFANCY PLANNING

2:37:56.

2:37:57UM.

2:38:00PILOTING.

2:38:02SUSTAINING AND EVALUATION.

2:38:04UM, EVALUATING I WOULD SAY SO

2:38:07IT'S IT'S NOT THAT IT'S IT'S

2:38:08THAT MEANS EVALUATION WOULD

2:38:09MEAN THAT THE THE THE PILOT'S

2:38:11BEEN COMPLETED UH PERHAPS UH

2:38:13THE UH THE POLICY OR PROGRAM IS

2:38:16IN EFFECT BUT WE, UH, WANT TO

2:38:19MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IMPACTFUL

2:38:22OR EFFECTIVE OR WHAT HAVE YOU

2:38:24DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT.

2:38:2548% WHERE AT THE SUSTAINING

2:38:26LEVEL, CORRECT?

2:38:28>> YEAH.

2:38:28WHAT 49% YEAH.

2:38:29WHAT'S THE DEFINITION

2:38:30OF SUSTAINING UNDER THESE

2:38:33CATEGORIES.

2:38:34SO THE DEFINITION OF SUSTAINING

2:38:36UH WOULD BE THAT THE UH

2:38:38SOLUTION IS UH BEING ENACTED

2:38:41CONTINUOUSLY THAT UM SORT OF IT

2:38:45HAS EVERYTHING IT NEEDS TO BE A

2:38:46FULLY FLEDGED UH PROGRAM OR

2:38:49SERVICE.

2:38:49>> OR POLICY.

2:38:50UH, AND THAT WE HAVE UH

2:38:53EVALUATED UM, SORT.

2:38:54>> OF WHETHER IT IT'S WHETHER.

2:38:56IT'S IT WAS PILOTED OR OR WAS

2:38:58ALREADY LAUNCHED AS A PERMANENT

2:39:00PROGRAM.

2:39:01UM, WE'VE COMPLETED SORT

2:39:03OF INITIAL UH EVALUATION TO TO

2:39:06.

2:39:07>> SORT OF.

2:39:07IT'S SORT OF LIKE A WHAT.

2:39:08MANY WOULD CALL DONE BUT WE

2:39:09JUST DON'T WANT TO CALL IT

2:39:10DONE.

2:39:10I GOT.

2:39:11LIMITED TIME SO YES SIR.

2:39:12SO LET'S GO TO GOAL ONE UH

2:39:15INCREASING HOUSING ACCESS FOR

2:39:15PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY AND

2:39:17OLDER ADULTS.

2:39:18HOW MANY OLDER ADULTS DID YOU

2:39:21INCREASE HOUSING FOR OR HOW

2:39:23MANY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES?

2:39:27I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER

2:39:28TO THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN.

2:39:30CAN YOU.

2:39:31GET THE ANSWER?

2:39:33I CAN TRY BUT THERE MAY BE

2:39:34CONFOUNDING VARIABLES.

2:39:35BUT YES.

2:39:36>> LET'S LET'S TRY AND GET THE

2:39:37ANSWER OKAY.

2:39:39UH HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU ACTUALLY

2:39:40HELP WITH HOUSING WHO HAVE

2:39:44DISABILITIES AND WHO ARE OLDER

2:39:47ADULTS?

2:39:49HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE WE HELPED?

2:39:52YES I.

2:39:52>> CAN GET YOU I CAN GET YOU.

2:39:53WITH ACCESS TO HOUSING.

2:39:55YES.

2:39:56YES GOT HOUSING ACCESS THAT

2:39:59DIDN'T HAVE IT BEFORE THEY CAME

2:40:01TO YOU.

2:40:01LET'S GO TO NUMBER TWO.

2:40:03UM, REDUCE AND PREVENT

2:40:06HOMELESSNESS.

2:40:06HOW MANY FOLKS DID YOU HELP

2:40:09WITH HELP FIND HOMES AND

2:40:13PREVENTED HOMELESSNESS?

2:40:15I'D HAVE TO I'D HAVE TO LOOK.

2:40:16>> INTO YOU.

2:40:17CAN YOU GET THAT FOR US?

2:40:18YES, SURE.

2:40:18OKAY.

2:40:19AND WHAT ABOUT GOAL NUMBER

2:40:20THREE?

2:40:22YOU DIDN'T MENTION GOAL NUMBER

2:40:23THREE YOU SKIPPED OVER GOAL

2:40:24NUMBER THREE.

2:40:25THAT'S BUILD AND STRENGTHEN

2:40:27REASONABLE STRATEGIES TO CREATE

2:40:29HOUSING AND FURTHER FAIR

2:40:30HOUSING.

2:40:32WHAT'S THE STATUS OF GOAL

2:40:33NUMBER THREE?

2:40:34YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT I THINK

2:40:36YOU SKIPPED OVER.

2:40:38SURE.

2:40:39>> SO THE THE WAY WE TRACK THE

2:40:41WORK IS UH.

2:40:41WHAT'S THE STATUS OF IT THOUGH

2:40:44YOU GAVE US STATUS ON THESE

2:40:46OTHERS WHAT'S THE STATUS

2:40:47OF GOAL NUMBER THREE?

2:40:49SO LIKE AS I WAS ABOUT TO SAY

2:40:51THE WAY WE TRACK IT IS ABIDE BY

2:40:52STATUS FOR THE ACTUAL

2:40:54INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS.

2:40:56ALL RIGHT.

2:40:56>> RIGHT AS AS IS DIVIDED TO

2:40:58THE REPORTING AGENCIES.

2:41:00SO IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A MOMENT

2:41:02UM I CAN SEE WHAT THEIR LATEST

2:41:04UPDATES ARE.

2:41:06FOR GOAL NUMBER THREE.

2:41:08WELL CAN WE COME BACK TO GOAL

2:41:09NUMBER THREE BECAUSE MY TIME IS

2:41:11I DON'T WANT TO WAIT.

2:41:11SURE.

2:41:12LET'S GO TO GOAL NUMBER FOUR

2:41:13EXPANDING HOUSING CHOICE FOR

2:41:14VOUCHER HOLDERS.

2:41:15HOW MANY VOUCHER HOLDERS DID

2:41:17YOU EXPAND HOUSING CHOICE FOR

2:41:20UNDER NUMBER FOUR.

2:41:21I'LL HAVE.

2:41:22>> TO GET YOU THAT.

2:41:22ANSWER OKAY LET'S GO TO NUMBER

2:41:24FIVE.

2:41:25YOU DIDN'T MENTION NUMBER FIVE

2:41:26BUT UNDER FIVE AND SIX I THINK

2:41:29YOU WENT RIGHT PAST HIM FIVE IS

2:41:32REDEVELOP AND PRESERVE EXISTING

2:41:33PUBLIC AND INCOME RESTRICTED

2:41:35HOUSING.

2:41:36HOW MANY FOLKS WOULD YOU HELP

2:41:37ON THE NUMBER FIVE.

2:41:38I HAVE TO GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER.

2:41:40WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE

2:41:41INFANCY PLANNING, PILOTING,

2:41:43EVALUATING AND SUSTAINING?

2:41:46SO AS I SAID WE BREAK THEM UP

2:41:48INTO INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS SO

2:41:49I CAN GIVE YOU YOU KNOW I CAN I

2:41:51CAN TELL YOU EACH INDIVIDUAL

2:41:52ACTION ITEM UM SO SO FOR

2:41:55EXAMPLE 5.15.2 IS SUSTAINING

2:41:575.1 IS SUSTAINING 5.3

2:42:00OF SUSTAINING.

2:42:00SO FOR CANNING COUNTY.

2:42:03COUNCIL THIS COULD BE OKAY.

2:42:04THE LAST QUESTION FOR THIS

2:42:06ROUND OKAY LET ME JUST GO TO

2:42:07SEVEN REAL QUICK.

2:42:08YES USING ZONING AND FAIR

2:42:10HOUSING TO GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE

2:42:11OF HOW YOU USE ZONING AS A FAIR

2:42:14HOUSING TO UNDER NUMBER SEVEN.

2:42:18SO UM.

2:42:21MY MY ROLE.

2:42:22IS TO GET THE.

2:42:23REPORTS BUT CAN.

2:42:24YOU GIVE ME THE EXAMPLE AN

2:42:26EXAMPLE OR NOT IF YOU CAN'T IS

2:42:28THAT.

2:42:28THAT THAT THERE IS A.

2:42:30FAIR HOUSING AMENDMENT THAT

2:42:31WAS.

2:42:32UH INCORPORATED.

2:42:33>> TO THE CITY'S ZONING CODE?

2:42:34WHAT WAS THAT?

2:42:35THAT WAS THE UH FHA ZONING THAT

2:42:39SORT OF SET.

2:42:39UP THE TICK THE BOX NUMBER.

2:42:41ONE COUNCILOR CULPEPER IF WE

2:42:43COULD HAVE A WAIVER QUESTION

2:42:44FOR THE NEXT ROUND, COME BACK

2:42:45THEN COME BACK.

2:42:46THANK YOU.

2:42:47I DON'T WANT TO DISRESPECT OH,

2:42:49I KNOW WE JUST HAVE WE HAVE

2:42:50SOME QUESTIONS.

2:42:51YOU GOT TO PUT COLLEGE

2:42:52COUNCIL FROM HERE.

2:42:53YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

2:42:56COUNCILOR CULPEPPER THINKS HE'S

2:42:57IN THE COURTROOM.

2:42:58YOU'RE NOT KNOW CITY

2:42:59COUNCIL NOW ACT LIKE ONE.

2:43:02>> ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL

2:43:03RIGHT.

2:43:03OKAY.

2:43:04LISTEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

2:43:06I HAVE FIVE QUESTIONS I'D LIKE

2:43:08TO KNOW SINCE 2022, UH, THE

2:43:11MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER.

2:43:12UM, ON ESTABLISHING THIS, I

2:43:14WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE

2:43:15BUDGET REFLECTS THE CITY'S

2:43:17COMMITMENT TO THAT TO THESE

2:43:19DELIVERABLES.

2:43:19LIKE HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE

2:43:22IN THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT

2:43:24TO HELP SUPPORT THE GOALS AND

2:43:26OBJECTIVES?

2:43:26I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON

2:43:28THAT.

2:43:28OKAY.

2:43:28SO I THINK IT'S REALLY

2:43:29IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS

2:43:31A VALUE STATEMENT AND IF WE'RE

2:43:32SAYING THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO

2:43:33THIS AND I'D LIKE TO SEE NOT

2:43:35JUST SOMETHING IN PAPER I LIKE

2:43:36TO SEE WHAT THE MONEY LOOKS

2:43:38LIKE.

2:43:40UM TO FULFILL THESE

2:43:41DELIVERABLES.

2:43:42UH I JUST WANT TO KNOW FOR THE

2:43:43RECORD THAT THE CITY'S ALSO A

2:43:44LANDLORD.

2:43:45YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF VHA

2:43:46PROPERTIES.

2:43:47I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR

2:43:49FROM YOU WHAT ROLE THE CITY IS

2:43:51PLAYING, IF ANY, ESPECIALLY

2:43:53WHEN WE'RE SETTING THE MARKET

2:43:54RENT WHEN WE GIVE A VOUCHER

2:43:56HOLDER $3,000 FOR A VOUCHER.

2:44:00WHAT LIKE I'M JUST CURIOUS

2:44:02ABOUT WHAT ROLE ARE WE PLAYING

2:44:05IN MAKING THIS CITY LESS

2:44:07AFFORDABLE WHEN OTHER SMALLER

2:44:09LANDLORDS THEN HAVE TO COMPETE

2:44:11WITH UH WITH YOUR VHA VOUCHER

2:44:15THRESHOLD?

2:44:16UM, AND I NOTICED IN YOUR

2:44:18POWERPOINT YOU HAD A LOT

2:44:19OF WHYS AND ACTIONS BUT WHAT I

2:44:20DIDN'T SEE WERE OUTCOMES WHICH

2:44:22IS THE LINE OF QUESTIONS THAT

2:44:24COUNCIL CULPEPER WAS ASKING.

2:44:26I'M CURIOUS WERE YOU WEARING

2:44:27YOUR PRESENTATION?

2:44:28ARE THE ACTUAL DELIVERABLES NOT

2:44:31JUST THE ASPIRATIONAL KIND

2:44:32OF LIKE HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING

2:44:33TO DO.

2:44:34I LIKE TO LEAN IN A LITTLE BIT

2:44:35MORE ON ANY DATA THAT YOU HAVE

2:44:38TO SHARE, UM, SMALL LANDLORDS

2:44:41AND UM AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS

2:44:43LIKE WHITE STADIUM.

2:44:44I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY

2:44:45STADIUM BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S

2:44:46NOT A GOOD HEARING WITHOUT

2:44:47ME TALKING ABOUT WHITE STADIUM.

2:44:49THESE ARE POTENTIAL PROJECTS

2:44:50THAT, UH, WILL DISPLACE BOSTON

2:44:54RESIDENTS AND ALSO CREATE

2:44:56FURTHER FINANCIAL HARDSHIP FOR

2:44:58SMALLER LANDLORDS WHO THEN HAVE

2:44:59TO INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES.

2:45:01IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING

2:45:02PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY

2:45:03OF BOSTON, I'D LIKE TO HEAR HOW

2:45:05YOU ARE LOOKING AT ANTI

2:45:08DISPLACEMENT WHEN WE'RE

2:45:09THINKING ABOUT BIG PROJECTS

2:45:10LIKE THAT THAT WILL HAVE AN

2:45:11UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE ON

2:45:13LANDLORDS AND RESIDENTS.

2:45:15SO JUST.

2:45:15IF YOU COULD.

2:45:16>> TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT AND

2:45:18THEN CENSUS TRACKING YOU KNOW

2:45:22WE I'VE HEARD AND I HAVE SEEN

2:45:24THAT SINCE COVID WE'VE LOST A

2:45:26BIG CHUNK OF BLACK AND BROWN

2:45:28FOLKS TO THEY HAVE LEFT THE

2:45:30CITY OF BOSTON AND WE KEEP

2:45:32TALKING ABOUT KEEPING RESIDENTS

2:45:33HERE.

2:45:34I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT DO YOU

2:45:35KNOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WE

2:45:37HAVE DISPLACED?

2:45:38UM, ARE YOU TRACKING ANY OF THE

2:45:40FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN DISPLACED

2:45:43UM OR HAVE BEEN UH,

2:45:45DISCRIMINATED AGAINST SO

2:45:46COULDN'T FIND A PLACE TO GO SO

2:45:48THEY JUST UP AND LEFT UM AND

2:45:50WHAT WHAT ARE WE DOING AS A

2:45:52WHAT ARE WE DOING?

2:45:54UM, TO REPAIR THAT HARM WE

2:45:56FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN.

2:45:57UM.

2:45:58>> DISPLACED AND OR

2:46:00DISCRIMINATED AGAINST THAT'S A

2:46:02LOT.

2:46:03AND YOU COULD TAKE IT IN THE

2:46:06ORDER IN WHICH YOU FEEL MOST

2:46:07COMFORTABLE IN LEANING INTO.

2:46:10SURE.

2:46:11>> SO UM.

2:46:13I SUPPOSE.

2:46:13>> I DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB

2:46:15OF UM, CLARIFYING MY ROLE AND

2:46:17UH AND DWAYNE'S.

2:46:19OFFICE IS SORT OF DUAL ROLE IN

2:46:20THIS SO MY ROLE IS.

2:46:22TO GET UPDATES FROM THE.

2:46:23SEVEN CITY DEPARTMENTS AS TO

2:46:26WHAT.

2:46:26THEY HAVE DONE.

2:46:28TO MEET EACH ACTION ITEM.

2:46:30I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO A BETTER

2:46:31JOB OF UH IT SOUNDS LIKE UM UH

2:46:34THE COUNCIL'S IN AGREEMENT IS

2:46:36GETTING SORT OF THE THE OUTCOME

2:46:38DATA UH, AFTER OUR PROGRAM HAS

2:46:40STARTED.

2:46:41YEAH.

2:46:42>> IT'S.

2:46:42BEEN SINCE 2022.

2:46:43SO I THINK YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE

2:46:45FIVE AND I JUST FEEL LIKE

2:46:46THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIOUSNESS TO

2:46:49REALLY GET THIS.

2:46:50WORK AND THE OUTCOMES OF THIS

2:46:52WORK.

2:46:53YES.

2:46:53>> AND AND SO.

2:46:54THE THE.

2:46:55WAY MANY OF THESE.

2:46:56>> THE.

2:46:56LARGER PROGRAMS WORK IS THEY'RE

2:46:58THEY'RE TRACKING THEIR THEIR

2:46:59OWN OUTCOME DATA AND.

2:47:01SO IT'S.

2:47:01UH IT'S.

2:47:02QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO SORT

2:47:04OF PULL IT ALL TOGETHER.

2:47:05UM BUT UM WE HEAR YOU ON THAT

2:47:07AND WE'LL.

2:47:08>> PULL THAT TOGETHER.

2:47:09UM, AND SO I'M.

2:47:11YOU KNOW.

2:47:12>> I'M NOT HERE AS AN EXPERT ON

2:47:14UH, HOW WE DO ANTI DISPLACEMENT

2:47:16WORK.

2:47:16UM, I FEEL.

2:47:17LIKE THE.

2:47:18PROGRESS REPORT SORT

2:47:19OF OUTLINES THAT.

2:47:20UM, FOR YEAR ONE, UM, WE, UM UH

2:47:25UM AND THEN WE'RE ALSO.

2:47:27PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT

2:47:29THE CENSUS DATA HAS TO SAY

2:47:30ABOUT THAT.

2:47:31UM, WE ARE TRACKING THAT UM,

2:47:33WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU

2:47:34ON THE BUDGET PIECE.

2:47:35UM, UH, IN ADDITION TO BUDGET.

2:47:38FOR UH, THE OFFICE OF FAIR

2:47:40HOUSING AND EQUITY TO.

2:47:41TO SORT OF.

2:47:42>> COORDINATE THIS WORK.

2:47:43UM, THERE'S ALL THE BUDGETARY

2:47:45INVESTMENTS TO ACTUALLY DO

2:47:46THIS.

2:47:46WORK WHICH THEN FIT UNDER, YOU

2:47:48KNOW, ALL SEVEN.

2:47:49DEPARTMENTS SO YOU DON'T HAVE

2:47:50ANY BUDGET DATA, YOU DON'T KNOW

2:47:52HOW MUCH.

2:47:52NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

2:47:54OKAY.

2:47:55>> I JUST WANT TO NOTE FOR THE

2:47:56RECORD JUST KIND OF LIKE THAT

2:47:57IS UH TO THE CHAIR I'D LIKE TO

2:47:59MAKE SURE THAT THE BUDGET

2:48:00REFLECTS THE GOALS AND

2:48:02ASPIRATIONS OF THIS PARTICULAR

2:48:04THE VISION THAT THE MAYOR HAS

2:48:05PUT OUT IN 2022.

2:48:08UM, AND THEN TALK TO ME A

2:48:10LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE

2:48:11DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS LIKE WHITE

2:48:12STADIUM AND THE IMPACT THAT

2:48:15PROPERTY TAXES WILL HAVE ON.

2:48:19THAT THE I I'M.

2:48:22TO TO MY.

2:48:23MEMORY THAT DOESN'T FALL.

2:48:25>> UNDER ANY OF THE 108 UM

2:48:28ACTION ITEMS.

2:48:29UM SO.

2:48:29YOU KNOW FOR.

2:48:31FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.

2:48:32TO IT I'D HAVE TO BE ABLE TO

2:48:33LOOK.

2:48:33>> IT UP.

2:48:34UH, AS TO HOW ANY INDIVIDUAL

2:48:37AGENCY REPORTED ON.

2:48:37>> THE UH SO.

2:48:39>> THE.

2:48:39THE AND THIS IS MY LAST PIECE

2:48:42IS THAT THERE IS A DIRECT

2:48:43CORRELATION WITH DEVELOPMENT

2:48:45AND PLANNING AND DISPLACEMENT

2:48:48AND KEEPING BLACK AND BROWN

2:48:49PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY

2:48:51OF BOSTON.

2:48:51AND SO WHILE YOU MAY NOT HAVE

2:48:53THAT INFORMATION, I JUST WANT

2:48:55TO KNOW FOR THE RECORD THAT

2:48:56THAT INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT

2:48:57TO HAVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE

2:48:59TALKING ABOUT ACCESS UM, TO

2:49:01FAIR HOUSING AND ALSO UH,

2:49:06DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE IN MANY

2:49:07WAYS THOSE THINGS FOR BLACK AND

2:49:09BROWN PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR

2:49:09COULD FEEL DISCRIMINATORY AND

2:49:11THAT YOU ARE CREATING AN

2:49:13ENVIRONMENT WHICH WE ARE NOT

2:49:14GOING TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE

2:49:15CITY ANYMORE.

2:49:17SO THOSE UNINTENDED

2:49:18CONSEQUENCES DO HAVE A ROLE IN

2:49:20THIS CONVERSATION.

2:49:21AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR

2:49:22US TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AT THE

2:49:24VERY LEAST.

2:49:25AND SO MY TIME IS UP.

2:49:27WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.

2:49:28I THINK WE SHOULD DO A SECOND

2:49:29HEARING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT

2:49:30MORE THAT WE NEED TO UNPACK.

2:49:32THANK YOU.

2:49:33>> THANK YOU.

2:49:34COUNCILOR.

2:49:35UM.

2:49:36>> COUNCILOR FLYNN.

2:49:37YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

2:49:38THANK YOU.

2:49:39>> MR CHAIR.

2:49:40THANK YOU TO THE PANEL.

2:49:41I LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY

2:49:42PANEL AT THE BEGINNING AND

2:49:44LISTENED TO EVERY WORD OF THE

2:49:46ADMINISTRATION PANEL POINT FOR

2:49:48ME TO BE HERE TO LEARN AS MUCH

2:49:50AS I CAN.

2:49:51I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK AND MY

2:49:52COUNCIL FOR BEING HERE.

2:49:54UH, MR CHAIRMAN, I READ A

2:49:56COUPLE QUESTIONS INTO THE

2:49:57RECORD UM, AND HOPEFULLY GET A

2:49:59GET SOME ANSWERS.

2:50:01OKAY.

2:50:02>> UM SO I WANT TO READ THESE

2:50:05QUESTIONS INTO THE RECORD.

2:50:06IF YOU COULD GET ME AN ANSWER

2:50:07I'LL GET THEM THROUGH THE CHAIR

2:50:08RATHER AND UM.

2:50:11BUT HOW HOW DID THE PLANNING

2:50:13DEPARTMENT EVALUATE THE SQUARES

2:50:15AND STREETS ON PERSONS

2:50:17PROTECTED BY FAIR HOUSING LAWS

2:50:19BEFORE THE PLAN WAS SENT TO THE

2:50:21BPA BOARD?

2:50:23AND WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE

2:50:25BEFORE GOING TO THE BOARD?

2:50:27UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO

2:50:30SUPPORT RENTERS AND SMALL

2:50:31BUSINESSES FROM DISPLACING

2:50:34DISPLACEMENT BEFORE REZONING

2:50:36TOOK PLACE AND WERE WE

2:50:39SUCCESSFUL?

2:50:42UM THE MAYOR'S GUIDANCE CALLS

2:50:43FOR AN ASSESSMENT OF POTENTIAL

2:50:45ZONING IMPACT OR EFFECTS ON

2:50:47PERSONS AND PROTECTED GROUPS

2:50:48BEFORE ZONING GOES BEFORE THE

2:50:51BPA BOARD BEFORE A VOTE DID

2:50:53THAT ASSESSMENT TAKE PLACE?

2:50:56UM.

2:51:00MY MY QUESTION I WOULD LIKE YOU

2:51:01TO ANSWER UM IF YOU PLEASE IS

2:51:04ON YOUR GOAL NUMBER ONE

2:51:06INCREASE HOUSING ASSET ACCESS

2:51:07FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES

2:51:10OLDER ADULTS OF I REPRESENT THE

2:51:12MOST RESIDENTS LIVING IN PUBLIC

2:51:14HOUSING OF ANY DISTRICT CITY

2:51:16COUNCIL AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW I

2:51:18AM CONCERNED ABOUT ACCESS FOR

2:51:20PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES IN

2:51:21PUBLIC HOUSING.

2:51:22MOST OF THEM ARE PEOPLE

2:51:23OF COLOR IN BAR DEVELOPMENTS

2:51:26DUE TO FAULTY ELEVATORS.

2:51:28ARE YOU AWARE OF THIS?

2:51:32THAT THAT.

2:51:33THAT UH THE ELEVATOR.

2:51:35UH ISSUE.

2:51:35>> IN PARTICULAR?

2:51:36YES, YES.

2:51:38WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE

2:51:40THAT PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES

2:51:42HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO HOUSING.

2:51:47AT VHA BUILDINGS KNOWING THAT

2:51:49WE HAVE, UM, A MAJOR PROBLEM ON

2:51:51OUR HANDS WITH ELEVATOR ACCESS

2:51:53?

2:51:55UM, AS I MENTIONED, UM.

2:51:58MY ROLE.

2:51:59>> IN THIS IS TO SORT OF HELP.

2:52:01MONITOR THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR

2:52:02HOUSING.

2:52:03>> SO THAT'S A VERY SPECIFIC.

2:52:04UM, ISSUE.

2:52:06UH, AS OPPOSED TO SORT OF A

2:52:07PROGRAM.

2:52:07>> POLICY.

2:52:08OR SERVICE.

2:52:08WELL.

2:52:09I BUT.

2:52:10THE ACTION IS STATED, UM, THAT

2:52:13YOU WANT TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WITH

2:52:14DISABILITIES WHO HAVE BEEN

2:52:15CHRONICALLY HOMELESS AND

2:52:17SEEKING PERMANENT HOUSING.

2:52:18WE HELP PEOPLE WITH PERMANENT

2:52:20HOUSING IN VHA, BUT WE HAVE TO

2:52:23PROVIDE THEM A SAFE ENVIRONMENT

2:52:25TO ACCESS THAT HOUSING.

2:52:28THAT'S WHERE I'M.

2:52:31I IS THAT WHERE YOU ARE AT?

2:52:37UM I'M NOT SURE HOW TO.

2:52:38ANSWER THAT.

2:52:39>> IS IS THAT.

2:52:40WHERE I'M.

2:52:40AT AS A.

2:52:41>> AS A IS THAT.

2:52:42IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT WE

2:52:43PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH A SAFE

2:52:45ENVIRONMENT AND I MEANING UM,

2:52:48ELEVATORS THAT WORK IN VHA

2:52:49BUILDINGS IS THAT A CIVIL

2:52:50RIGHTS ISSUE?

2:52:51I THINK IT IS.

2:52:52UH, THE ACCESS.

2:52:53IS AND SAFETY IS, UH.

2:52:55IMPORTANT TO US AS I'M SURE

2:52:56IT'S.

2:52:57IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE AND.

2:52:58UH.

2:52:59>> I WOULD REFER.

2:52:59TO THE VHA.

2:53:00>> AS TO THE PROGRESS THEY'RE

2:53:01MAKING ON UM ON.

2:53:02>> ADDRESSING.

2:53:03THOSE ISSUES BUT THEY'RE NOT

2:53:03MAKING GOOD PROGRESS.

2:53:05I FOLLOW THAT ISSUE VERY

2:53:07CLOSELY AND I'M MAKING GOOD

2:53:08PROGRESS.

2:53:09IN FACT THEY ARE THEY ARE NOT

2:53:12MAKING PROGRESS AT ALL AND

2:53:14RESIDENTS ARE COMPLAINING TO

2:53:15ME NOT JUST NOT JUST IN MY

2:53:17DISTRICT BUT ACROSS THE CITY

2:53:19THAT RESIDENTS ARE HAVING A

2:53:20VERY DIFFICULT TIME ACCESSING

2:53:23THEIR APARTMENT IN VHA

2:53:25DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE AN

2:53:26ELEVATOR IS BROKEN.

2:53:28I DO BELIEVE THAT'S A CIVIL

2:53:29RIGHTS ISSUE BUT OTHER PEOPLE

2:53:31MIGHT DISAGREE WITH ME.

2:53:33UM BUT IF YOU ARE A PERSON WITH

2:53:35DISABILITIES IN A WHEELCHAIR UM

2:53:38OR AN ELDERLY PERSON THAT CAN'T

2:53:39GET UP ON THE STAIRS UM THAT'S

2:53:43THAT'S THAT'S A VIOLATION IN MY

2:53:45OPINION OF THE ADA AND IF WE'RE

2:53:48SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE

2:53:49TALKING ABOUT TODAY AS YOU

2:53:51MENTIONED AND AND NUMBER ONE

2:53:55AND GOAL NUMBER ONE HOW WE

2:53:57SUPPORT PERSONS WITH

2:53:58DISABILITIES AND MOST MOST

2:54:00OF THE PEOPLE MOST PEOPLE IN.

2:54:03MOST PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES.

2:54:06AT VHA, MANY A HIGH PERCENTAGE

2:54:08OF THEM ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.

2:54:10THAT'S WHY I DO THINK THIS IS A

2:54:12CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE.

2:54:13I DO THINK IT'S ALSO ABOUT

2:54:16RESPECTING RESPECTING OUR

2:54:19SENIORS.

2:54:19IT'S ABOUT RESPECTING PERSONS

2:54:21WITH DISABILITIES.

2:54:24KNOWING WHAT MY OPINION IS WHAT

2:54:25ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

2:54:30UM WELL.

2:54:31I, I WILL UM GO.

2:54:32>> BACK AND SPEAK TO MY

2:54:33COLLEAGUES.

2:54:34AT VHA.

2:54:34>> I'LL SPEAK.

2:54:35>> TO OUR COLLEAGUES AT UH THE

2:54:36DISABILITIES.

2:54:36COMMISSION AS WELL.

2:54:38>> UM, AND WE'LL UH WE'LL GET.

2:54:40AN UPDATE.

2:54:41AND YOU'LL GET ME AN UPDATE ON

2:54:43THE BAR ELEVATOR SYSTEM

2:54:46THROUGHOUT AND GIVE ME AN

2:54:48UPDATE.

2:54:49I CAN.

2:54:49>> DO THAT.

2:54:50THAT'D BE EXCELLENT.

2:54:51THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING

2:54:52FOR FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME

2:54:53AND IT'S BEEN STALLED BY YOU,

2:54:55SIR.

2:54:57BECAUSE YOU'RE.

2:54:59MY OPINION BECAUSE YOU'RE SO

2:55:01PASSIONATE.

2:55:01ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

2:55:04UM, YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT

2:55:05FILING A COMPLAINT.

2:55:07WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT.

2:55:08>> FILING COMPLAINT WITH OUR

2:55:09OFFICE.

2:55:10UM, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE, UH

2:55:13,YOU KNOW, AGAINST.

2:55:15YOU SHOULD FILE A COMPLAINT AS

2:55:17ANYONE CAN FILE A COMPLAINT.

2:55:18YOU CAN FILE A COMPLAINT ON

2:55:19BEHALF OF THE.

2:55:21CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU'RE

2:55:22TALKING ABOUT.

2:55:23YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, WE.

2:55:24WE WE.

2:55:25YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING TO

2:55:26TALK.

2:55:26ABOUT IT BUT YOU.

2:55:27YOU KNOW.

2:55:28>> YOU NEED TO GET A CITIZEN.

2:55:30SO SO.

2:55:31UH.

2:55:32>> IF I'M HEARING YOU

2:55:33CORRECTLY, IT MAY NOT BE ON THE

2:55:35SURFACE.

2:55:35IT MAY NOT BE A VIOLATION.

2:55:37OF OF.

2:55:38>> UH.

2:55:39FHA UM BUT IF THERE'S A PATTERN

2:55:40THEN MAYBE.

2:55:41WE CAN.

2:55:42>> FILE A COMMISSION BASED

2:55:43COMPLAINT OR AT LEAST HAVE SOME

2:55:44MORE CONVERSATIONS.

2:55:46WITH WITH UH.

2:55:48>> WITH THE VHA ABOUT.

2:55:51UM WHAT.

2:55:52ABOUT THE MISMANAGEMENT

2:55:53OF THESE.

2:55:54BUILDINGS IF.

2:55:54THAT'S HOW YOU WANT TO

2:55:55CATEGORIZE IT.

2:55:56>> BUT I WOULD.

2:55:57UH I.

2:55:58>> WOULD FILE A COMPLAINT.

2:56:00DWANE THAT'S THE BEST ADVICE

2:56:02I'VE HEARD IN SEVERAL YEARS

2:56:04I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS I

2:56:05WANT TO SAY THANK YOU I HAVEN'T

2:56:07FILED A COMPLAINT WITH FAIR

2:56:08HOUSING I'VE FILED A COMPLAINT

2:56:10WITH THE BAR THEMSELVES UH

2:56:12FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE

2:56:14STATE UM WHICH IS THEY OVERSEE

2:56:17THE ELEVATOR INSPECTIONS,

2:56:20MAINTENANCE OF ELEVATORS,

2:56:21ARCHITECTURAL ACCESS BOARD.

2:56:23IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED UM, I

2:56:25FILED THE COMPLAINT WITH THEM.

2:56:26I ALSO FILED A COMPLAINT WITH

2:56:27THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL.

2:56:28BUT RESPECT WHAT YOU JUST

2:56:31ADVOCATED FOR OR RECOMMENDED, I

2:56:33SHOULD SAY.

2:56:34I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

2:56:35IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST ADVICE

2:56:36I'VE RECEIVED IN YEARS AND JUST

2:56:39WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR

2:56:41HAVING THE COURAGE TO TO SPEAK

2:56:43OUT ABOUT THAT.

2:56:44AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING?

2:56:46UM, THAT'S HOW BOB WAS AT FAIR

2:56:48HOUSE AND HE WOULD TELL YOU HE

2:56:50WOULD RECOMMEND THINGS TO YOU

2:56:52TO DO UM, EVEN IF IT WAS

2:56:55SOMEWHAT CONTROVERSIAL.

2:56:57THAT'S WHAT I REALLY RESPECTED

2:56:58ABOUT HIM AND FAIR HOUSING IS

2:56:59HE HE GAVE YOU THE STRAIGHT

2:57:01INFORMATION AND HE WAS HE WAS

2:57:03DIRECT AND HE WAS HONEST AND HE

2:57:04WAS SINCERE AND I JUST I WANT

2:57:06TO SAY THANK YOU.

2:57:07I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU

2:57:08OKAY.

2:57:08WELCOME.

2:57:09>> THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

2:57:10THANK YOU.

2:57:11>> THANK YOU COUNCILOR.

2:57:12COUNCILOR WEBER, YOU HAVE FIVE

2:57:13MINUTES.

2:57:16OKAY.

2:57:17>> THANK YOU.

2:57:17>> UH.

2:57:18FOLLOWING UP OF.

2:57:19THE ON THE END OF THAT OF BOB

2:57:20TERRELL SAT RIGHT THERE AND HE

2:57:22TALKED TO US.

2:57:23ABOUT.

2:57:23>> UH, FAIR HOUSING.

2:57:25TESTERS AND.

2:57:26>> HOW IMPORTANT THAT WAS.

2:57:26AND WE HEARD ABOUT THE.

2:57:27SUFFOLK.

2:57:28>> UH, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATION

2:57:30WHICH FOUND.

2:57:32LANDLORDS.

2:57:32>> YOU KNOW.

2:57:33PUTTING IN WRITING I DON'T RENT

2:57:35TO SECTION.

2:57:35EIGHT VOUCHER HOLDERS.

2:57:38UH UM AND SO UH I GUESS SO

2:57:41WHAT'S THE.

2:57:42STATUS OF FAIR.

2:57:42HOUSING TESTING NOW?

2:57:44UM AND THEN.

2:57:46WE ALSO I KNOW IN THE BUDGET

2:57:48PROCESS WE DID PUT IN $100,000

2:57:50.

2:57:51FOR A.

2:57:51>> FAIR FAIR HOUSING TESTING

2:57:52PROGRAM.

2:57:53WE WANT TO THANK YOU KNOW MY

2:57:54COLLEAGUES I KNOW.

2:57:55COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE COUNCILOR.

2:57:56CULPEPPER AND MY OTHER.

2:57:58COLLEAGUES SUPPORTED THAT.

2:57:59BUT.

2:57:59UH, CAN.

2:58:00>> WE GET AN UPDATE ON ON THAT

2:58:02?

2:58:03YES.

2:58:03>> UM, WE'RE ALMOST DONE

2:58:04FINALIZING THE RFP.

2:58:06UM, WE ACTUALLY.

2:58:07UH, SPOKE TO ONE OF THE

2:58:09RESEARCHERS.

2:58:10,UM, LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK.

2:58:11BEFORE.

2:58:12>> UH, FOR THAT STUDY JUST.

2:58:13CITED COUNSELOR UH, AND WE WANT

2:58:14TO MAKE SURE THE RFP IS ALIGNED

2:58:17WITH HOW, UM.

2:58:18ALL THE.

2:58:19>> RELEVANT CITY AGENCIES

2:58:20ACTUALLY FUNCTION.

2:58:21UM, SO, UM, WE'RE JUST DOING

2:58:23OUR DUE DILIGENCE THERE AND

2:58:24THEN, UM, WE'LL BE.

2:58:25RELEASING THE RFP.

2:58:27OKAY.

2:58:28AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE UM,

2:58:31UH, ADDING ADDITIONAL.

2:58:32FUNDS TO THAT.

2:58:33AND SO.

2:58:34IT'LL BE.

2:58:34>> WE'RE PLAYING FOR IT TO BE A

2:58:36THREE YEAR RFP.

2:58:39OKAY.

2:58:39>> UM AND THEN SO.

2:58:41RIGHT NOW UH, HOW MANY HOUSING

2:58:44DO WE HAVE HOUSING.

2:58:45TESTERS AND WHAT.

2:58:47DO WE DO ANY HOUSING TESTING.

2:58:49THE RFP?

2:58:51UH, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE

2:58:52RFP OR JUST IN GENERAL.

2:58:53JUST STAFF?

2:58:54YEAH.

2:58:54OR IN GENERAL?

2:58:55NO, NO.

2:58:55>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY STAFF.

2:58:56TO DO TESTING.

2:58:57OKAY.

2:58:58UM AND THEN WHAT I.

2:58:59GUESS WHAT.

2:59:01WHAT IS THE PLAN.

2:59:02FOR THE RFP?

2:59:04I GUESS.

2:59:04I MEAN, I KNOW.

2:59:05YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON IT,

2:59:06BUT.

2:59:07UH, WHAT'S.

2:59:08THE GOAL IN TERMS.

2:59:09OF STAFFING AND AND NUMBER OF.

2:59:11INSPECTIONS OR UM.

2:59:13UH, WE'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO

2:59:14YOU ON THAT.

2:59:15UM.

2:59:16IT'S UH I MEAN WE CAN GET BACK

2:59:18TO YOU PRETTY.

2:59:18>> QUICKLY.

2:59:19ON THAT BUT.

2:59:19UM, THE THE.

2:59:21STRUCTURALLY IT WOULD BE TO UH

2:59:23,CONTRACT UM WITH AN EXTERNAL

2:59:25ENTITY.

2:59:26>> THAT COULD SORT.

2:59:27OF COORDINATE DOING.

2:59:27ALL OF THAT AND.

2:59:28THEN THE UH, SORT OF THE DATA

2:59:30REPORTING, UM, WOULD COME TO US

2:59:32AND WE WOULD.

2:59:33UM WE WOULD SORT.

2:59:34OF USE THAT INFORMATION ON OUR

2:59:36SIDE.

2:59:36OKAY.

2:59:37>> DOES THAT MEAN LIKE LIKE

2:59:38WOULD SUFFOLK DO I.

2:59:39WHO WHO.

2:59:40WHAT'S AN EXTERNAL ENTITY.

2:59:42>> OR LIKE WHAT TYPE OF ENTITY

2:59:44OR WE COULD HANDLE THIS.

2:59:47UM IN MY IMAGINATION IT'S IT'S

2:59:49UH IT'S A NONPROFIT

2:59:50ORGANIZATION OR UH, A HIGHER

2:59:53EDUCATION INSTITUTION, UM, THAT

2:59:55HAS.

2:59:56EXPERIENCE UM, DOING THIS SORT

2:59:57OF, UH, WORK.

2:59:58OKAY.

3:00:00>> UH, AND.

3:00:05SO.

3:00:05>> UH, THE.

3:00:07THERE'S NO EXCUSE ME BUT TO BE

3:00:08CLEAR, THIS.

3:00:09DOESN'T EXCLUDE.

3:00:09>> ANY OTHER.

3:00:09ENTITY FROM APPLYING OR.

3:00:11YOU KNOW, I'M JUST A MALE.

3:00:12I'M JUST TRYING TO IMAGINE LIKE

3:00:13WHO.

3:00:14WOULD IT BE?

3:00:14IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, GIBLETS.

3:00:17IT COULD BE SUFFOLK.

3:00:19IT COULD BE.

3:00:19LIKE THEIR HOUSING GROUPS I

3:00:21GUESS.

3:00:21AND HISTORICALLY.

3:00:22SOMETIMES IN THESE SORT

3:00:23OF SITUATIONS.

3:00:24YOU MAY HAVE TWO TYPES.

3:00:26>> OF.

3:00:26EXPERTS PARTNER.

3:00:27>> TOGETHER FOR A JOINT

3:00:28APPLICATION.

3:00:28OKAY.

3:00:29>> UM I GUESS SO IN.

3:00:31TERMS OF THE LOOKING AT THE

3:00:352019.

3:00:36REPORT AND THE 14 GOALS AND.

3:00:39>> THE.

3:00:40108 RECOMMENDATIONS.

3:00:41OR SORT OF GOALS WITHIN THE

3:00:43GOALS OKAY.

3:00:45I DID WONDER LIKE.

3:00:46IS IS THAT IS.

3:00:48THAT IS IT.

3:00:49TOO DIFFICULT TO HANDLE THAT

3:00:51LIKE YOU KNOW THERE'S A 200

3:00:52PAGE REPORT I DID GO THROUGH GO

3:00:54THROUGH IT I DON'T TEST ME ON

3:00:56IT BUT UM OR UH JUST TO LET OUR

3:00:59MONEY KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE YOU

3:01:00KNOW, WE DO GO THROUGH THE

3:01:01REPORTS UH, YOU KNOW, IN.

3:01:04TERMS OF LIKE TRYING TO MANAGE

3:01:06THAT.

3:01:06LIKE WOULD YOU WANT TO WE WOULD

3:01:08YOU WANT MORE GOALS, FEWER

3:01:10GOALS GROUP THEM TOGETHER IN

3:01:12TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN

3:01:14YOUR ROLE.

3:01:14HOW HAS IT BEEN JUST WITH THAT?

3:01:17IS THAT A LARGE NUMBER.

3:01:19>> OR SMALL NUMBER?

3:01:20I MEAN I WOULD SAY UM I THINK I

3:01:25THINK IT'S BEEN A LOT OF.

3:01:26WORK TO.

3:01:27UM TO COORDINATE UM SORT OF.

3:01:29UPDATES ON EACH OF THE ACTION

3:01:31ITEMS AND TO COORDINATE THE

3:01:33RELEVANT UH STAFF TO COME AND

3:01:35UPDATE THE UH MONITORING

3:01:37COMMITTEE, UH, IN PERSON, UM IN

3:01:40AT MEETINGS AND AND YOU KNOW.

3:01:42FOR SOME OF THE I.

3:01:44>> WOULD SAY FOR ALMOST ALL

3:01:45OF THE SEVEN AGENCIES UH THE

3:01:47PERSON THAT'S.

3:01:47DOING THAT REPORTING EVEN THEN.

3:01:50EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PART

3:01:52OF THAT DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE NOT

3:01:54GOING TO BE AN EXPERT ON, YOU

3:01:55KNOW, ANY PARTICULAR ITEM UM,

3:01:59UNLESS THEY WERE ALSO ASSIGNED

3:02:00TO DO THAT ITEM.

3:02:02SO THEY MIGHT YOU KNOW, MAYOR'S

3:02:03OFFICE FOR HOUSING FOR EXAMPLE,

3:02:04HAS ABOUT 75 ITEMS OR 85 ITEMS,

3:02:07SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

3:02:08YOU KNOW.

3:02:08>> THE PEOPLE ARE.

3:02:09>> REPORTING THEY MIGHT BE

3:02:10EXPERTS ON 2 OR 3 OF THEM.

3:02:11AND SO THE MINE COMMITTEE WANTS

3:02:12TO.

3:02:12ASK ABOUT ONE OF THE OTHER

3:02:14ITEMS IN REALLY IN DEPTH.

3:02:16UM, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO BE

3:02:18PREPARED IN ADVANCE TO EITHER

3:02:20HAVE THAT INFORMATION OR TO

3:02:21BRING THEIR COLLEAGUE UM TO.

3:02:23TO TO THAT MEETING.

3:02:23AND SO RIGHT NOW, UM WE'RE

3:02:25TRYING TO HAVE SOME.

3:02:26EXPLORATORY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT

3:02:27HOW TO STRUCTURE THINGS.

3:02:28BETTER AND.

3:02:29>> SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY.

3:02:30REALLY DO.

3:02:31INDEED GO.

3:02:32IN DEPTH.

3:02:33UM.

3:02:33UH, WITH.

3:02:34>> THE YOU.

3:02:34KNOW, THE PROJECT LEADS.

3:02:35>> FOR.

3:02:35THE VARIOUS ITEMS.

3:02:36>> OKAY.

3:02:37JUST I THINK SELECTIVE

3:02:37BLINDNESS ON THIS SIDE SO I

3:02:39DON'T SEE.

3:02:40>> THE CHAIR.

3:02:40THE TIME IS UP COUNCIL.

3:02:42UH YEAH I JUST IN.

3:02:43TERMS OF JUST HOW TO GET THE

3:02:44REPORTING AND YOU KNOW, I FEEL

3:02:46LIKE WE WE SHOULD HAVE MORE

3:02:47REGULAR AND UH, REPORTING ON

3:02:49HOW THIS IS GOING LIKE JUST

3:02:52MAYBE BRAINSTORMING WITH

3:02:53ADVOCATES TO FIGURE OUT, YOU

3:02:55KNOW, HOW TO HOW TO GET THERE

3:02:56AND MAYBE PART OF IT IS COMING

3:02:58UP WITH SOME LARGER.

3:03:00RUBRICS OR SOMETHING.

3:03:01BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIR.

3:03:03I APPRECIATE THE TIME.

3:03:03THANK YOU.

3:03:05COUNCILOR COUNCILOR.

3:03:06LOUIJEUNE UM.

3:03:08THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR CHAIR

3:03:09AND THANK YOU TO THE

3:03:11ADMINISTRATION FOR BEING HERE.

3:03:12I THINK UH I.

3:03:12JUST HEARD COUNCILOR WEBER ASK

3:03:15SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I

3:03:16HAD, BUT I GUESS A QUESTION I

3:03:18HAVE WHAT DOES A FULLY STAFFED

3:03:19OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND

3:03:21EQUITY LOOK LIKE?

3:03:22UH, FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.

3:03:24IT CONSISTS OF THE EXECUTIVE.

3:03:26DIRECTOR, DEPUTY DIRECTOR.

3:03:29UM.

3:03:30>> FOR INVESTIGATORS, INTAKE

3:03:32SPECIALIST UM, AS UH, SPECIAL

3:03:35PROJECTS POLICY MANAGER.

3:03:38UM, IF YOU'RE ASKING IN A

3:03:41DIRECTOR OF.

3:03:41INVESTIGATIONS OR SORRY IN A

3:03:43DIRECTOR OF INVESTIGATIONS THE

3:03:44.

3:03:45IF I HAD A WISH LIST.

3:03:48UM I WOULD ADD MORE UM, MEET.

3:03:52RESEARCH FOLKS WE NEED WE NEED

3:03:53RESEARCH FOLKS TO SUPPORT SOME

3:03:55OF THE POLICY TO HELP DEVELOP

3:03:57POLICY.

3:03:58UM.

3:03:59>> BE NICE WOULD BE NICE TO

3:04:01HAVE.

3:04:01UH.

3:04:02>> UM, COUNCILOR.

3:04:04LEGAL COUNCILOR.

3:04:05YEP.

3:04:05THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BOB

3:04:06TYRRELL FOUGHT FOR AND REALLY

3:04:08THE IDEA OF HAVING LIKE A

3:04:10GENERAL COUNCILOR FOR THE

3:04:10OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND

3:04:11EQUITY TO BE ABLE TO BETTER

3:04:13MANAGE THE CASES.

3:04:15SO I THANK YOU FOR UPLIFTING

3:04:16THAT AND I JUST I'M ALWAYS

3:04:17CONSTANTLY.

3:04:18>> GETTING.

3:04:18CONVERSATIONS BACK WITH BOB

3:04:19TERRELL AND HOW HE UPLIFTED THE

3:04:21NEED FOR THAT AS WELL.

3:04:22YEAH WE YOU KNOW BOB AND I YOU

3:04:24KNOW BOB WAS MY MENTOR.

3:04:24WE TALKED ABOUT.

3:04:25>> IT ALL THE TIME.

3:04:28UM YOU KNOW WE'D HAVE TO BE

3:04:30CAREFUL WITH UH.

3:04:31WITH UH WITH COUNCILOR BUT UM

3:04:34BUT WE NEED IT.

3:04:35THE FOLKS NEED IT.

3:04:36THE FOLKS NEEDED ON THE FRONT

3:04:37END.

3:04:40UM AND AGAIN WE NEED.

3:04:41YOU KNOW, WE NEED.

3:04:42MORE RESEARCH.

3:04:44PERSONNEL TO HELP WITH.

3:04:46UM, IDENTIFYING.

3:04:47>> THE.

3:04:47DIFFERENT TRENDS THAT ARE GOING

3:04:49ON WITHIN THE HOUSING MARKET.

3:04:51SO SO UM.

3:04:53,SO I WOULD I WOULD.

3:04:54ADVOCATE FOR MORE RESOURCE

3:04:55PEOPLE.

3:04:56WE HAVE ENOUGH.

3:04:56INVESTIGATORS I.

3:04:57THINK THE.

3:04:58TALENTED THE YOUNG THEY'RE

3:04:59DOING A FINE JOB.

3:05:01UM I'M CONFIDENT.

3:05:02>> THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE

3:05:03TO PULL OFF THE TESTING PROGRAM

3:05:07BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME

3:05:07TALENTED.

3:05:08FOLKS IN MY SHOP.

3:05:09ACTUALLY IN THE ENTIRE CABINET.

3:05:10WE HAVE SOME TALENTED FOLKS IN

3:05:11THE HIGH CABINET BUT UM.

3:05:14BUT YEAH.

3:05:15>> THAT'S WHAT I.

3:05:16>> WOULD.

3:05:16YOU.

3:05:17WELL THANK YOU.

3:05:18UM, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE STILL

3:05:19FOLKS WAITING TO TESTIFY AND I

3:05:21KNOW ON AND, UH, DWAYNE, HOW

3:05:23COMMITTED BOTH OF YOU ARE TO

3:05:24THIS WORK INTO, UM, ROOTING OUT

3:05:29PATTERNS OF HOUSING

3:05:30DISCRIMINATION THAT LEAD TO

3:05:31FURTHER RACIAL SEGREGATION THAT

3:05:33LEAD TO WEALTH SEGREGATION.

3:05:34AND SO, UM, THIS WORK IS

3:05:36INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

3:05:37I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT

3:05:38SINCE I JOINED THE COUNCIL AND

3:05:40I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SO MANY

3:05:41PEOPLE IN THE CITY WE HEARD

3:05:42FROM THE PRIOR PANEL WHO

3:05:44UNDERSTAND HOW EVERYTHING

3:05:45INTERSECTS WITH EACH OTHER.

3:05:47UM, I AGAIN I THINK AWARENESS

3:05:49AROUND UM WE NEED THE PEOPLE

3:05:52NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE TAKING

3:05:53THIS SERIOUSLY AND THAT DOESN'T

3:05:55HAPPEN IF WE'RE NOT DOING SORT

3:05:56OF ENFORCEMENT AND

3:05:57INVESTIGATION.

3:05:58>> SO UM.

3:05:58LOOK FORWARD TO US MOVING

3:06:00QUICKER IN THIS WORK.

3:06:01THANK YOU.

3:06:01I THINK IT'S.

3:06:04THANK YOU, COUNCILOR.

3:06:05I WANT TO GIVE MYSELF SOME TIME

3:06:06JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW

3:06:07QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL.

3:06:10I, UM, JUST WANT TO FIRST OF.

3:06:12ALL, THE CONVERSATION.

3:06:13>> THAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE

3:06:14HISTORY OF BOSTON AND THE WAY

3:06:16THAT OUR ZONING AND LAWS.

3:06:19IN GENERAL WAY PASSED BEFORE

3:06:20ALL OF OUR TIMES HAVE SHAPED

3:06:21THE WAY THAT OUR CITY LOOKS

3:06:22LIKE TODAY.

3:06:23AND YOU KNOW, I WAS.

3:06:25ABLE TO.

3:06:26SPEAK TO A.

3:06:27PROFESSOR AT NORTHEASTERN

3:06:28UNIVERSITY, JOANNE FITZGERALD,

3:06:30AND.

3:06:31SHE TEACHES 21ST CENTURY CITIES

3:06:33.

3:06:33AND A LOT OF THE WORK THAT.

3:06:35WE HAVE.

3:06:36>> TO DO HERE IN THE CITY

3:06:37OF BOSTON IN TERMS OF REPAIRING

3:06:38A LOT OF THE THE DAMAGE THAT

3:06:40WAS DONE REALLY PREVIOUS YEARS

3:06:42AND I SEE THAT, UH, YOUR OFFICE

3:06:45SPECIFICALLY PLAYS A KEY ROLE

3:06:46IN THAT AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE

3:06:49OF.

3:06:50SO MUCH PREPARATION THAT WE

3:06:52HAVE TO DO THAT LEADS TO MY

3:06:54QUESTION IS HOW OFTEN ARE YOU

3:06:56GUYS INVOLVED IN THE MEETINGS

3:06:58WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND

3:07:00THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHEN

3:07:02THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ZONING

3:07:03COMES UP, WHEN CONVERSATIONS

3:07:05ABOUT SPECIFIC HOUSING

3:07:07DEVELOPMENTS.

3:07:07UM.

3:07:08>> COME INTO FRUITION?

3:07:09I MEAN I'M A DISTRICT

3:07:10COUNCILOR AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE

3:07:11ALWAYS GETTING PROPOSALS OF OH

3:07:13HEY.

3:07:14THIS PROJECT WE COME TO YOUR

3:07:16DISTRICT.

3:07:16WHEN ARE YOU WHEN IS YOUR

3:07:18OFFICE.

3:07:19LOOPED IN TO THOSE

3:07:20CONVERSATIONS?

3:07:22SO SO IT HAPPENS AT SEVERAL

3:07:23DIFFERENT LEVELS.

3:07:25SO UM.

3:07:25>> UH, ON A BROADER.

3:07:26LEVEL, UH.

3:07:27>> THE CHIEF OF EQUITY

3:07:28INCLUSION SITS ON THE PLANNING

3:07:29ADVISORY COUNCIL.

3:07:30UM, SHE WILL OFTEN BRING

3:07:32ADDITIONAL STAFF WITH HER TO

3:07:34UM, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE

3:07:35TOPIC UH, AND SO BIG PICTURE

3:07:38CONVERSATIONS ABOUT.

3:07:39THE SORTS OF THINGS THAT

3:07:40YOU'RE.

3:07:40TALKING ABOUT.

3:07:41COUNCILOR.

3:07:41UM, EXCUSE ME, MR CHAIR.

3:07:43UH, DO COME UP.

3:07:44UM, UH.

3:07:46AT THOSE.

3:07:47MEETINGS AND THEN WHEN IT COMES

3:07:49TO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL.

3:07:50PROJECTS THAT'S WHERE UM.

3:07:52>> THE.

3:07:53BEFORE IT COMES.

3:07:54IN AND SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE

3:07:55AND SO THE.

3:07:55DECK HAS.

3:07:56TWO OF OUR STAFF OR TECHNICAL.

3:07:58EXPERTS.

3:07:59>> UH, RIGHT.

3:08:00>> ONE ON FAIR HOUSING AND ONE

3:08:02ON UM.

3:08:02DISABILITY ACCESS.

3:08:03PARTICULARLY ARCHITECTURAL

3:08:04ACCESS.

3:08:05UM UH SIT THERE.

3:08:07AND THEN SORT OF IN THE.

3:08:09MIDDLE IS WHERE WE IDENTIFY

3:08:11EITHER PATTERNS FROM THE BOTTOM

3:08:12UP.

3:08:13OR FROM A BIGGER PICTURE, YOU

3:08:15KNOW, TOPIC THAT COMES UP WE

3:08:16MIGHT WANT TO GET INTO THE

3:08:17WEEDS UM, WITH UM ANY

3:08:20PARTICULAR PROJECTS.

3:08:21SO FOR EXAMPLE.

3:08:23YOU KNOW, WE STARTED TALKING

3:08:24ABOUT UM UH THE ANTI

3:08:26DISPLACEMENT PLAN UM AT SORT

3:08:28OF A HIGH LEVEL AND THEN OUT

3:08:29OF THAT CAME SOME UH INDIVIDUAL

3:08:32CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN EQUITY

3:08:34LEADERS AND UM.

3:08:36UH THE PLANNING ADVISORY

3:08:38COUNCIL AND THEN AFTER THAT WE

3:08:39BROUGHT IN OUR SORT

3:08:40OF TECHNICAL EXPERT STAFF TO

3:08:41HAVE CONVERSATIONS TO WEIGH IN.

3:08:43UM, SO THAT SORT.

3:08:44>> OF.

3:08:44LIKE WE SORT OF IDENTIFY THINGS

3:08:45IN THOSE DIRECTIONS.

3:08:47I APPRECIATE THE.

3:08:48UM I WAS EVEN.

3:08:49THINKING HERE WHILE YOU YOU

3:08:52GUYS WERE GIVING THE

3:08:53PRESENTATION IS THERE'S SO.

3:08:55MUCH THAT YOU DO IS.

3:08:56OVERLAP OVERLAPS WITH WHAT.

3:08:58HOUSING IS DOING WITH WHAT THE.

3:09:00PLANNING DEPARTMENT HONESTLY IS

3:09:01DOING.

3:09:01AND I THINK THAT TO A CERTAIN

3:09:03EXTENT EVEN THE PLANNING

3:09:05DEPARTMENT CAN USE.

3:09:07SOMEONE WITH THIS.

3:09:08MINDSET INSIDE OF.

3:09:09THEIR POLICY.

3:09:09AREA SO THAT THIS PART OF THIS

3:09:12CONVERSATION ISN'T.

3:09:13REACTIVE AFTER SOMETHING IS

3:09:14PROPOSED.

3:09:15IF NOT, IT'S PART.

3:09:16>> OF THE POLICY.

3:09:17PLANNING UM, FROM SOMEONE LIKE

3:09:18THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHERE

3:09:20IT'S JUST PART OF THE THE

3:09:22FRAMEWORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO

3:09:23SEE.

3:09:24SO UM, I YOU KNOW, UM I

3:09:27HESITATE TO SPEAK FOR THEM.

3:09:28UH, BUT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

3:09:30IN PARTICULAR.

3:09:30>> UH.

3:09:31DOES HAVE UM.

3:09:32UH SEVERAL.

3:09:33STAFF MEMBERS WHO.

3:09:34ARE CHARGED WITH PAYING

3:09:35ATTENTION TO SUCH THINGS.

3:09:37UM, AND SO UH, I'LL LEAVE

3:09:38ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN THE

3:09:39STRUCTURE BUT UM.

3:09:40THERE UH.

3:09:41THEY HAVE.

3:09:42UH.

3:09:43>> SENIOR ADVISOR.

3:09:44UM.

3:09:45>>.

3:09:45WHO.

3:09:45PAYS ATTENTION TO CERTAIN.

3:09:46THINGS FAIR.

3:09:47HOUSING INCLUDED.

3:09:48UM AND UH SEVERAL MEMBERS OF A

3:09:51.

3:09:52UM DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION

3:09:53TEAM THAT INCLUDES UM SOMEONE

3:09:55PAYING ATTENTION TO LANGUAGE

3:09:56ACCESS.

3:09:56>> IN PARTICULAR.

3:09:56OKAY.

3:09:57>> SOUNDS LIKE.

3:09:58WE'LL FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION

3:10:00WOULD BE HELPFUL.

3:10:01UM, OKAY.

3:10:01THAT'S IT FOR ME FOR.

3:10:03QUESTIONS I KNOW THAT.

3:10:05DEFINITELY CULPEPER HAS A

3:10:06FOLLOW UP.

3:10:07QUESTION COUNCILOR WORRELL.

3:10:08>> DO YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP

3:10:09QUESTION?

3:10:09OKAY I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM

3:10:10EACH THREE MINUTES.

3:10:11AND THEN COUNCIL.

3:10:12WITH HIM.

3:10:13>> AND COUNCIL VISION.

3:10:14YES OKAY COUNSELOR MORRELL

3:10:17THREE MINUTES.

3:10:18UH THANK YOU CHAIR.

3:10:19AND WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLAINT

3:10:21UH, DO OUR COMPLAINTS AT THE

3:10:22FAIR HOUSING RECEIVED

3:10:24AUTOMATICALLY GO TO ANY OTHER

3:10:26AGENCY.

3:10:28OR LIKE THE AG'S OFFICE OR

3:10:31MCAD?

3:10:32NO NOT.

3:10:32AUTOMATICALLY IF WE.

3:10:34>> YOU KNOW, ONCE THE.

3:10:34PERSON WALKS TO THE DOOR WE TRY

3:10:36TO ESTABLISH JURISDICTION.

3:10:37UM, AND.

3:10:38>> IF.

3:10:38WE HAVE.

3:10:39>> JURISDICTION, UM, THEN WE

3:10:40TAKE ON THE CASE AND WE JUST

3:10:41SORT OF WORK THROUGH.

3:10:42>> THE PROCESS.

3:10:42THEN THEY MAY ELECT.

3:10:45DEPENDING ON WHAT THE RESULT IS

3:10:47OF THE OF.

3:10:47OF THE CASE THEY MAY ELECT

3:10:49ANOTHER.

3:10:51ADJUDICATION PIECE UM IN THAT

3:10:54IN UM AND THEN.

3:10:55>> WE WOULD WE WOULD TRY TO

3:10:56SUPPORT THAT BUT BUT UM BUT FOR

3:10:59THE MOST PART IF WE CAN

3:11:00ESTABLISH JURISDICTION THAT WE

3:11:01TAKE ON THE CASE AND WE TRY TO

3:11:02TRY.

3:11:03>> TO FIND UM.

3:11:05JUSTICE FOR THE.

3:11:07>> FOR THE FOR THE COMPLAINT.

3:11:07ALL RIGHT.

3:11:08UM.

3:11:09WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IF WE CAN

3:11:11ESTABLISH LIKE A MOU WITH, YOU

3:11:13KNOW, THE STATE AGENCIES TO SEE

3:11:14IF WE CAN.

3:11:16STREAMLINE JUST SO THAT THE

3:11:17INDIVIDUALS COMING IN DOESN'T

3:11:18HAVE TO FILL OUT, UM,

3:11:20ADDITIONAL PAPERWORK TO FILE

3:11:21THE SAME COMPLAINT.

3:11:23UH, ANOTHER.

3:11:23QUESTION I HAVE IS WHEN IT

3:11:25COMES.

3:11:25TO WE.

3:11:25>> HEARD THE COMMUNITY

3:11:26PANELISTS TALK.

3:11:27ABOUT THE EQUITY STUDY.

3:11:29UM, WE WE ALSO HEARD THEM THAT

3:11:31OTHER CITIES HAVE USED THE

3:11:32EQUITY STUDY TO, UH, DEFEND

3:11:34THEIR STRATEGIES.

3:11:36UH, KEEP AN EYE AN UPDATE AND A

3:11:39STATUS ON.

3:11:40UH, THE.

3:11:40>> 2025 EQUITY STUDY.

3:11:43SO.

3:11:43>> UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE.

3:11:45REFERRING TO IS.

3:11:46THE, UM, AFFIRMATIVELY

3:11:47FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING UH,

3:11:49REVIEW.

3:11:50UM.

3:11:51I THINK THAT'S WHAT.

3:11:52>> I MEAN WHEN WE HAVE SEVERAL.

3:11:54EQUITY STUDIES.

3:11:54GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.

3:11:55OKAY.

3:11:56YOU'RE AWARE RIGHT, LIKE THE

3:11:57BLACK MALE.

3:11:58ADVANCEMENT RIGHTS.

3:11:59AND UM.

3:12:00SO I.

3:12:01THINK WHAT WE WANT.

3:12:02>> TO MAKE.

3:12:02CLEAR IS THAT.

3:12:03UM, THE CITY IS.

3:12:05CONTINUING TO ACTIVELY ADVANCE

3:12:06OUR FAIR HOUSING AGENDA.

3:12:08THE ACTIONS THAT, UH, ARE.

3:12:11>> BEING CONSIDERED BY.

3:12:12THAT STUDY ARE.

3:12:14ALL STILL HAPPENING, RIGHT?

3:12:15WHAT IS.

3:12:16>> UH WHAT.

3:12:18IS UM.

3:12:19BEING UM, PAUSED FOR NOW UH IS

3:12:24THE UH IS THE CONTINUING OF.

3:12:26THE THE.

3:12:27STUDY ITSELF?

3:12:28UM BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW.

3:12:30UH.

3:12:31>> LAST DECEMBER, UM, AFTER AN

3:12:36INCREDIBLE AMOUNT

3:12:37OF PARTNERSHIP, HUD ANNOUNCED A

3:12:38HOSTILE INVESTIGATION TO.

3:12:39OUR WORK.

3:12:40UM, AND THAT THREATENS OUR

3:12:41FEDERAL FUNDING.

3:12:43UM, SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO

3:12:45ADVANCE THE WORK.

3:12:46UM, BUT HAVE DECIDED TO.

3:12:48PAUSE THAT FOR NOW.

3:12:49UM, AND ARE TAKING MEASURES TO,

3:12:52UM, BE READY TO RESUME UM,

3:12:54SORT.

3:12:55>> OF.

3:12:55IMMEDIATELY, UH, WHEN WE'RE

3:12:56READY TO.

3:12:58ALL RIGHT.

3:12:59>> ONE LAST QUESTION.

3:13:00UM.

3:13:03>> WHEN IT COMES TO AND I HAVE

3:13:04LIKE A.

3:13:05>> LIST OF QUESTIONS UM, AND

3:13:06SUBMIT TO THE CHAIR TO SEE IF

3:13:07WE CAN GET BACK IN WRITING.

3:13:08UM.

3:13:09>> BUT.

3:13:09WHEN IT COMES TO.

3:13:12EVICTIONS, DO DO WE HOW DO YOU

3:13:16WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF HOUSING

3:13:18INSTABILITY?

3:13:19I KIND OF I KNOW WE ALWAYS TALK

3:13:20ABOUT ACCESS BUT ALSO WHEN IT

3:13:22COMES TO EVICTIONS, UH,

3:13:23STABILIZING AND KEEPING PEOPLE

3:13:24AT HOME.

3:13:25HOW DO WE WORK WITH THE OFFICE?

3:13:27HOW DO YOU WORK WITH THE OFFICE

3:13:29OF HOUSING STABILITY TO

3:13:30IDENTIFY ANY CORPORATE

3:13:32LANDLORDS WHO HAVE A HABIT

3:13:36OF EVICTING, UM, THOSE THAT ARE

3:13:38IN SIDE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING?

3:13:40I BELIEVE WE HEARD FROM THE

3:13:42EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UH, DANIEL

3:13:44JOHNSON, UH, ABOUT THE HIGH

3:13:46RATE OF THOSE THAT ARE IN

3:13:48AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT ARE

3:13:49EXPERIENCING EVICTIONS.

3:13:50SO JUST KIND OF WANT TO HEAR

3:13:52YOUR THOUGHTS AROUND THAT.

3:13:54AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION

3:13:57SORRY CHAIR IS I KNOW THERE'S

3:13:58AN ANNUAL REPORT UM, THROUGH

3:14:01THE ORDINANCE THAT THE OFFICE

3:14:03IS SUPPOSED TO PRODUCE AROUND

3:14:05HOW FEAR HOUSING IMPACTS.

3:14:08MARGINALIZED GROUPS.

3:14:09WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WAS

3:14:11UM REPORTED OUT AND IF IT

3:14:13HASN'T BEEN IN A WHILE, WHEN

3:14:14CAN.

3:14:15>> WE.

3:14:15EXPECT THE DEPARTMENT TO COME

3:14:17IN WITHIN COMPLIANCE?

3:14:19THE LAST QUESTION I WOULD SAY

3:14:21WHAT PROBABLY MAKES MORE SENSE

3:14:23IS TO PROVIDE THE REPORT.

3:14:25WE CAN WE CAN PROVIDE THE

3:14:26REPORT UM.

3:14:28,PROBABLY MAKES MORE SENSE TO

3:14:29PROVIDE.

3:14:30>> IT UH, MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO

3:14:32.

3:14:32BEFORE UH.

3:14:33HOUSING MONTH WHICH.

3:14:35>> IS.

3:14:35IN APRIL UM OR PROVIDED IN

3:14:38APRIL I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND

3:14:40THAT UM.

3:14:43THE YOUR.

3:14:45QUESTIONS AROUND.

3:14:46>> OUR.

3:14:47RELATIONSHIP WITH HOUSING

3:14:47STABILITY AND EVICTIONS.

3:14:50UM WE DO TALK WITH THEM FROM

3:14:51TIME.

3:14:52TO TIME BUT BUT I DON'T THINK

3:14:53WE HAVE UH, A SPACE WHERE

3:14:56WE'RE.

3:14:57TALKING UM OR EXPLORING.

3:14:59>> OR.

3:15:00EVALUATING WHAT YOUR QUESTION

3:15:01IS.

3:15:01UM, I'D BE OPEN TO DOING THAT

3:15:03WITH HOUSING STABILITY.

3:15:04UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW,

3:15:05PREVENTION IS.

3:15:06PROBABLY THE BEST ROUTE TO TAKE

3:15:08.

3:15:08UM, ANYTHING.

3:15:09>> THAT WE CAN DO TO TO KEEP

3:15:10FOLKS IN TO.

3:15:11HOMES UM, ANYTIME WE CAN.

3:15:13ASSERT OUR.

3:15:15ENFORCEMENT ABILITIES AND BEST

3:15:16ABILITIES.

3:15:18UM, TO HELP SOMEONE GOING

3:15:19THROUGH THAT PROCESS, I WOULD.

3:15:20IMPLORE THAT.

3:15:21SO.

3:15:22UM.

3:15:24>> UH, I THINK IT'S DANIEL

3:15:25JOHNSON.

3:15:26I THINK SHE'S OVER AT HOUSING

3:15:27STABILITY.

3:15:27I THINK IT.

3:15:28WARRANTS A CONVERSATION.

3:15:31UM, UM.

3:15:33BUT AS FAR.

3:15:33>> AS I KNOW THERE'S WE'RE NOT

3:15:35ACTIVELY.

3:15:38TALKING TO THEM ABOUT.

3:15:39THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC.

3:15:40AT LEAST I'M NOT.

3:15:41OKAY.

3:15:42>> THANKS.

3:15:43OKAY.

3:15:43THANK YOU.

3:15:44AND I'LL MAKE SURE I SUBMIT

3:15:45THOSE.

3:15:46QUESTIONS TO COMMITTEE OKAY.

3:15:48COUNSELOR CULPEPER THANK YOU,

3:15:50MR CHAIR.

3:15:51MR LEE, I WON'T GO THROUGH THE

3:15:53REST OF THOSE, UH, CALLS.

3:15:56WHAT I'LL DO IS, UH, I'LL

3:15:59SUBMIT THE QUESTIONS TO THE

3:16:00CHAIR AND HE CAN SUBMIT THE

3:16:03REST OF THE.

3:16:03QUESTIONS TO YOU SO YOU CAN, UH

3:16:06,PROVIDE THE DATA THAT YOU

3:16:07HAVE.

3:16:08UM, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU DON'T

3:16:11HAVE TO TRY AND LOOK THROUGH

3:16:12YOUR NOTES IN AND GOT A COUPLE

3:16:15OF QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE

3:16:17OPERATION OF THE FAIR HOUSING

3:16:19OFFICE IN 2025.

3:16:21HOW MANY COMPLAINTS DID.

3:16:22>> YOU GET?

3:16:26UH HOW.

3:16:27>> MANY COMPLAINTS THAT WE GOT?

3:16:28>> UM.

3:16:29,I DON'T KNOW.

3:16:30THAT'S THAT'S.

3:16:31>> A GOOD QUESTION.

3:16:3225 I'D SAY.

3:16:34I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I

3:16:36DON'T GUESS.

3:16:36>> YEAH OKAY, I.

3:16:37>> WILL JUST.

3:16:38I CAN GET YOUR.

3:16:39ESTIMATION THOUGH QUICK.

3:16:39WHEN YOU YEAH WHEN YOU GET

3:16:41BACK.

3:16:41PROVIDE THE INFORMATION WE CAN

3:16:42AND UH, MR LEE YOU MENTIONED

3:16:45THAT MORE MONEY WAS BEING ADDED

3:16:48TO THE TESTING PROGRAM.

3:16:50I KNOW THE COUNCIL ADDED TO OUR

3:16:52FISCAL 27.

3:16:54BUDGET AN ADDITIONAL $100,000.

3:16:57HOW MUCH MORE?

3:17:00ARE YOU ADDING?

3:17:02AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED

3:17:03EARLIER THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED

3:17:04THAT YOU'RE ADDING MORE HOW

3:17:06MUCH MORE YOU'RE ADDING TO THE.

3:17:08CURRENT TESTING PROGRAM THAT

3:17:10YOU'RE ABOUT TO UH, ISSUE AN

3:17:13RFP FOR?

3:17:14I'D HAVE TO CHECK BUT I THINK

3:17:16IT'S AROUND 200,000.

3:17:18>> ABOUT 200,000 IN ADDITION

3:17:19TO.

3:17:19THE CORRECT MONEY THAT WAS

3:17:21ALREADY THERE.

3:17:22YES.

3:17:22OKAY.

3:17:23AND WITH REGARD TO THE SECTION

3:17:27EIGHT PROGRAM AND AND THE UH

3:17:302020 STUDY, UH, I WANT TO ASK A

3:17:33COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT

3:17:35GHOSTING.

3:17:36UM, BECAUSE IN THAT STUDY THEY

3:17:38FOUND THAT 42% OF THE TIME THE

3:17:45UM 42% OF THE PEOPLE OF THE

3:17:48FOLKS HAD UM ACTUALLY UH HAD

3:17:52VOUCHERS WERE GHOSTED VERSUS

3:17:5610%.

3:17:57FOR THE.

3:17:58>> NON VOUCHER TESTERS.

3:17:59HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THAT?

3:18:01AND WHEN SOMEONE.

3:18:03REFUSES TO.

3:18:04RESPOND TO.

3:18:05>> A SECTION EIGHT.

3:18:07UH APPLICANT.

3:18:08HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHETHER

3:18:10THAT.

3:18:10THAT GHOSTING IS A.

3:18:12VIOLATION OR IT'S JUST.

3:18:13SOMEONE THAT MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN

3:18:16TO GET BACK TO THAT PERSON?

3:18:19UM SO SO.

3:18:21I YOU'RE.

3:18:21>> REFERRING TO THE STUDY FROM

3:18:22THE.

3:18:23BUS FOUNDATION UNIVERSE.

3:18:24>> A.

3:18:242020 STUDY.

3:18:25THE, UH, QUALIFIED WINNERS

3:18:26NEED.

3:18:27>> NOT APPLY.

3:18:27STUDY SO.

3:18:28>> SO FOR THE.

3:18:29FOR SO FOR YOUR FIRST.

3:18:30QUESTION I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER.

3:18:32>> TO THE RESEARCHERS ABOUT.

3:18:34>> THEIR METHODOLOGY.

3:18:34UM, AND.

3:18:35>> WHAT ABOUT DUANE DUANE.

3:18:36DUANE ANSWER THE SECOND

3:18:38QUESTION.

3:18:38YEAH YEAH I THINK I.

3:18:39THINK HOW DO YOU INVESTIGATE

3:18:41CASES WHERE THE LANDLORD BROKER

3:18:44NEVER EXPLICITLY RESPONDED TO

3:18:46SOMEONE THAT APPLIED IT?

3:18:48IT WOULD COME THROUGH THE

3:18:50INVESTIGATIVE.

3:18:50PROCESS THAT WE HAVE.

3:18:51SO SO LET'S BACK UP FOR A

3:18:54SECOND SO THAT.

3:18:56THE THE VOUCHER.

3:18:57FIRST HAS.

3:18:58>> TO KNOW WHAT THAT.

3:19:00DISCRIMINATION PIECE LOOKS LIKE

3:19:01RIGHT.

3:19:02AND THEN THEY HAVE TO.

3:19:04HAVE THEY HAVE TO COME IN TO

3:19:06THE OFFICE.

3:19:07>> AND FILE.

3:19:07BUT THAT'S PART OF THE.

3:19:08PROBLEM THAT THAT THEY DON'T.

3:19:09THEY DON'T.

3:19:10>> SO.

3:19:11YEAH SO AND I TOTALLY AGREE

3:19:12WITH YOU SO SO SO.

3:19:14SO OUR OFFICE HAS TO BE MORE

3:19:16INTENTIONAL AROUND PROVIDING

3:19:18SUPPORT.

3:19:19TO VOUCHER HOLDERS.

3:19:19AND HELPING THEM TO UNDERSTAND

3:19:21WHAT.

3:19:22DISCRIMINATION LOOKS LIKE.

3:19:24AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES.

3:19:26>> THAT WE HAVE IS UM.

3:19:28WE GOT TO.

3:19:28>> DO A BETTER JOB AT IT,

3:19:29RIGHT?

3:19:30UM, UM.

3:19:31WE'RE TOUCHING A LOT OF PEOPLE.

3:19:33>> WE'RE DOING A.

3:19:34>> LOT OF OUTREACH BUT PEOPLE.

3:19:34STILL DON'T.

3:19:35>> UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WHAT

3:19:36THEY DON'T THEY DON'T.

3:19:37FULLY UNDERSTAND THEIR THEIR.

3:19:38RIGHTS AND THEY DON'T

3:19:40UNDERSTAND WHAT.

3:19:41DISCRIMINATION LOOKS LIKE.

3:19:42SO NO QUESTION UM, HAS YOUR

3:19:44OFFICE INVESTIGATED ANY

3:19:46GHOSTING CASES AND MADE A

3:19:48FINDING A FINDING THAT THERE

3:19:51WAS GHOSTING IN A CASE?

3:19:55AS YOU FRAME IT I DON'T I DON'T

3:19:57I DON'T.

3:19:57>> THINK SO BUT BUT I CAN.

3:19:58LOOK AT THE.

3:19:59SOURCE OF INCOME.

3:20:01COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAVE ON FILE

3:20:04TO SEE.

3:20:04>> IF THAT APPLIES.

3:20:06OKAY.

3:20:07>> AND I'LL SUBMIT THE I'VE GOT

3:20:09A ON A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS

3:20:11AROUND GHOSTING BUT I'LL SUBMIT

3:20:13THEM TO UH TO THE CHAIR OKAY.

3:20:17UM GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO

3:20:19GO BACK AND ACTUALLY LOOK AND.

3:20:21>> TALK TO THE.

3:20:22INVESTIGATORS ABOUT GHOSTING

3:20:23BECAUSE.

3:20:24>> IT'S.

3:20:24IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE

3:20:27OF SECTION EIGHT DISCRIMINATION

3:20:29THAT'S NOT INVESTIGATED.

3:20:31VERY MUCH BECAUSE IT'S VERY

3:20:33DIFFICULT, UM, TO MAKE A

3:20:35FINDING.

3:20:36THAT GHOSTING.

3:20:37>> WAS INVOLVED IN A CASE I

3:20:38SUBMIT THE CLOSEST TO.

3:20:39YES.

3:20:40THANK YOU.

3:20:40THANK YOU VERY WELL.

3:20:42MR CHAIR MAY.

3:20:42SAY THAT, UM, MY COLLEAGUE IS

3:20:44BEING INCREDIBLY MODEST.

3:20:45ABOUT HIS PUBLIC.

3:20:46EDUCATION EFFORTS.

3:20:47UM, LAST YEAR HE QUADRUPLED.

3:20:49THE TARGET.

3:20:50WELL.

3:20:51>> HE SORT OF GLOSSED OVER THAT

3:20:53EARLIER.

3:20:53THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

3:20:54THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

3:20:55ON THAT.

3:20:56>> THANK YOU.

3:20:57>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

3:20:58MR LEE AND.

3:21:00MR WATTS.

3:21:00YEAH.

3:21:01OKAY.

3:21:03COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE UH, I HOPE I.

3:21:05I DON'T THINK YOU IT I.

3:21:09I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING UM

3:21:11THE LIKE THE FEDERAL NATURE

3:21:13OF THE CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW.

3:21:15UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF IMPACT

3:21:17ON THE WORK BUT I THINK YOU

3:21:18ANSWERED YOU ANSWERED THAT UM,

3:21:21I KNOW IT IS INCREDIBLY

3:21:23CHALLENGING TO DO THIS WORK AND

3:21:26FACING ALL OF THESE HEADWINDS.

3:21:27UH, I WAS NAMED IN THE

3:21:30INVESTIGATION AND IN THE

3:21:30LAWSUIT, UH, FOR THE WORK THAT

3:21:32WE'RE TRYING TO DO AROUND

3:21:33FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING IN THE

3:21:34WORK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO

3:21:35MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GIVING

3:21:37PEOPLE INCLUSIVE OPPORTUNITIES

3:21:38.

3:21:39UM, AND STILL I THINK THAT

3:21:40THERE ARE UM UH, EVEN TO WHAT

3:21:42COUNCILOR CULPEPER WAS TALKING

3:21:43ABOUT THE GHOSTING THAT

3:21:44HAPPENS.

3:21:44RIGHT.

3:21:45LIKE SHOWING THE IMPORTANCE

3:21:46OF THAT'S WHY YOU NEED PEER

3:21:47TESTING IS LIKE AND THAT'S WHY

3:21:49THAT'S THE GOLD STANDARD.

3:21:50AND SO I'M WONDERING I THINK

3:21:52COUNCILOR WEBER DID ASK THE

3:21:53QUESTION ABOUT UM LIKE THE WHO

3:21:57IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE

3:21:59RESEARCH AND THE PEER TESTING

3:22:00SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SUFFOLK

3:22:01UNIVERSITY, UH, THE FAIR

3:22:03HOUSING CENTER OF GREATER

3:22:04BOSTON.

3:22:05UH, WHO ARE ARE LIKE

3:22:06TRADITIONAL PARTNERS IN THIS

3:22:08WORK SO WE CAN WRITE OUT THE

3:22:09THINGS LIKE I MEAN I THINK IT'S

3:22:12REALLY VOUCHER DISCRIMINATION I

3:22:14THINK IS PROBABLY THE HARDEST

3:22:15BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FACING SO

3:22:18MUCH PRESSURE AND VULNERABILITY

3:22:19IN THEIR PURSUIT OF BUT I

3:22:21THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE

3:22:22QUADRUPLING THAT HAS ALREADY

3:22:23HAPPENED UH, WHO ARE WHO DO YOU

3:22:26SEE AS OUR PARTNERS AND ABLE TO

3:22:27BECAUSE LIKE THE CITY OF BOSTON

3:22:28ALONE CAN'T DO IT.

3:22:29SO WHO ARE OUR PARTNERS IN THIS

3:22:30WORK?

3:22:32I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IN

3:22:34ADDITION TO THE TWO AGENCIES

3:22:35THAT YOU MENTIONED, I WOULD

3:22:36ALSO INCLUDE ACE IN THAT

3:22:38CONVERSATION AS WELL.

3:22:40UM, UH.

3:22:42I'D PROBABLY INCLUDE UH, URBAN

3:22:44LEAGUE IN THAT CONVERSATION.

3:22:47UH, BUT UM.

3:22:52ANY ANY ORGANIZATION THAT

3:22:53TOUCHES.

3:22:54>> ARE.

3:22:54PROTECTED CLASSES.

3:22:55GREAT.

3:22:56SO SO WHETHER IT'S DISABILITY

3:22:58OR FAMILIAL STATUS.

3:23:00OR UM, GENDER LGBTQ SAID ANY

3:23:03AGENCY THAT ANY AGENCY THAT

3:23:05TOUCHES UH, PROTECTED CLASSES

3:23:07CAN BE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH US

3:23:10IN COLLABORATION.

3:23:12UM AND WE CAN WE CAN GET THE

3:23:14OUTCOMES THAT WE WANT.

3:23:15UM.

3:23:16>> UH, THROUGH THAT

3:23:17COLLABORATION AND AND AS I

3:23:19MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S A.

3:23:22WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH

3:23:25TAP INTO STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE

3:23:27TRUSTED RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE

3:23:30WITH THE WITH THE CONSTITUENTS

3:23:31THAT WE WANT TO THAT WE WANT TO

3:23:33THAT WE WANT TO HELP.

3:23:33YEAH.

3:23:34>> AND I THINK THERE'S A

3:23:35GREATER ROLE FOR BOTH HERE WHEN

3:23:37WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VOUCHER

3:23:38DISCRIMINATION AND THEY HAVE A

3:23:40WHOLE OFFICE THAT I THINK CAN

3:23:41YOU KNOW THAT THAT DOES IS

3:23:43WORKING CAN CAN CAN LEAN IN

3:23:44MORE.

3:23:44YEAH.

3:23:45>> SO I SEE THE CHAIR STARING

3:23:47AT ME.

3:23:47MY QUESTION WAS REALLY ABOUT

3:23:48LIKE IT WAS REALLY ABOUT THE

3:23:50HEADWINDS OF WITH THE FEDERAL

3:23:51CHALLENGES AND UH UH AN

3:23:55ADMINISTRATION THAT OFTEN

3:23:55PROVES ITSELF TO BE DOING

3:23:57ANYTHING ANYTHING THAT'S THE

3:23:58OPPOSITE OF UH EQUITY AND UM

3:24:01AND DISPLACEMENT.

3:24:02SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR

3:24:03THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE YOU

3:24:04ALL ARE DOING FACING INCREDIBLY

3:24:07CHALLENGING HEADWINDS ON THE

3:24:08FEDERAL LEVEL.

3:24:08YEAH.

3:24:09>> I'M THINKING.

3:24:09AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE

3:24:11MORE COMMENT AND THEN ALSO I

3:24:13THINK WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER

3:24:14JOB IN MAXIMIZING THE

3:24:15RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE IN

3:24:16HOUSE.

3:24:17OUR CABINET.

3:24:18TOUCHES A LOT OF FOLKS THAT

3:24:20WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT LGBTQ

3:24:22TO SAY UH, DISABILITY FOLKS UM

3:24:26,BLACK MALE ADVANCEMENT

3:24:28WOMEN'S ADVANCEMENT LKE TO TO

3:24:30MAKE WHICH JUSTICE IS ALSO

3:24:31IMPORTANT.

3:24:33UM AND WE'RE GOING TO

3:24:34ADVANCEMENT.

3:24:36SO SO I THINK.

3:24:39UM AS A AS A AS A CABINET I

3:24:41THINK WE NEED TO LOOK OR

3:24:42EXPLORE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR

3:24:43US TO TO TO WORK TOGETHER.

3:24:46UM.

3:24:47>> AND MAXIMIZE UM THE

3:24:49OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE

3:24:50BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE WE'RE

3:24:51ON THE GROUND HEARING

3:24:52COMPLAINTS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

3:24:54UM AND THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT

3:24:55THAT COMES IN IS HOUSING.

3:24:57SO SO AND I THINK YOU KNOW,

3:24:59LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW,

3:25:00SOME OF US ARE WORKING IN

3:25:01SILOS.

3:25:02WE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB

3:25:03OF BREAKING DOWN THOSE SILOS

3:25:04AND AND AND FINDING

3:25:06OPPORTUNITIES TO UH, CREATE

3:25:09OPPORTUNITIES TO TO TO HELP

3:25:10THESE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THAT

3:25:12ARE SUFFERING.

3:25:15THANK YOU.

3:25:17OKAY.

3:25:18UM.

3:25:19TO ALL THE COUNCILORS THAT HAVE

3:25:20ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, MAKE

3:25:21SURE TO SUBMIT THEM TO ME AND

3:25:23I'LL TO GIVE THAT OVER TO THE.

3:25:25ADMINISTRATION AN EXAMPLE.

3:25:28OKAY.

3:25:30NOW IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC

3:25:33TESTIMONY.

3:25:33HERE I HAVE A LIST.

3:25:35I HAVE A.

3:25:36STEPHANIE WILLIAMS.

3:25:37AND I HAVE A T LAWRENCE WHERE

3:25:40UM YOU MAY PROCEED TO THE

3:25:42MICROPHONE.

3:25:44I'M GONNA GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES.

3:26:00GOOD AFTERNOON.

3:26:01COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE

3:26:02COMMITTEE, COMMUNITY MEMBERS

3:26:03AND MY CEC MEMBERS.

3:26:05THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO,

3:26:07UM, TESTIFY TODAY.

3:26:08MY NAME IS STEPHANIE WILLIAMS

3:26:09AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF

3:26:11OF ACE, WHICH IS THE

3:26:12ALTERNATIVE COMMUNITY AND

3:26:13ENVIRONMENT INC., UH, ROXBURY

3:26:16BASED ORGANIZATION WHICH I

3:26:17SERVE AS A DEPUTY DIRECTOR.

3:26:21UM, I BRING ABOUT 25.

3:26:23>> YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

3:26:24IN HOUSING ADVOCACY.

3:26:26UM, TO THIS TO TO TO ACE.

3:26:30UH, AND THIS THIS STEMS FROM MY

3:26:32WORK AT JBL'S UM WORKING IN THE

3:26:34HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS UNIT

3:26:36AS A PARALEGAL YEARS AGO AND

3:26:37THEN ALSO WORKING UM AT THE

3:26:40GREATER BOSTON.

3:26:41>> THE FAILED SORT OF GREATER

3:26:42BOSTON.

3:26:42UM.

3:26:43>> AS A TESTING COORDINATOR AND

3:26:45THERE AT THE FAIR HOUSING

3:26:46CENTER GREATER BOSTON, WHICH

3:26:47WAS A UH ORGANIZATION WE.

3:26:50WE HAD A PILOT PROGRAM WHERE WE

3:26:52PROVIDED TESTING, TRAINING,

3:26:54EDUCATION, COMMUNITY OUTREACH,

3:26:56COMMUNITY OUTREACH, CASE

3:26:58ADVOCACY, POLICY ADVOCACY AND

3:27:00RESEARCH AND ENFORCEMENT

3:27:02EFFORTS AS A SMALL TEAM.

3:27:06ACE IS PREPARING TO LAUNCH A

3:27:07NEW FAIR HOUSING PROGRAM

3:27:09SERVING GREATER ROXBURY WITH

3:27:11SUPPORT FROM THE COMMONWEALTH

3:27:12GRANT.

3:27:14THE PROGRAM WILL PROVIDE FAIR

3:27:16HOUSING, EDUCATION, COMMUNITY

3:27:18OUTREACH, TESTING AND

3:27:20ENFORCEMENT REFERRALS.

3:27:23OUR GOAL IS TO HELP RESIDENTS

3:27:25UNDERSTAND THEIR RIGHTS,

3:27:27IDENTIFY POTENTIAL

3:27:29DISCRIMINATION AND CONNECT THEM

3:27:30WITH THE APPROPRIATE LEGAL AND

3:27:32ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES.

3:27:34WE WANT TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY

3:27:35WITH THE CITY AND OTHER.

3:27:37COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS.

3:27:38>> ON FAIR HOUSING, EDUCATION,

3:27:39OUTREACH, REFERRALS, TESTAMENT

3:27:41AND ENFORCEMENT.

3:27:43COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD

3:27:44NOT HAVE TO NAVIGATE THE FAIR

3:27:46HOUSING THE CITY'S FAIR HOUSING

3:27:48SYSTEM ON THEIR OWN.

3:27:49WE NEED A CLEAR AND ACCESSIBLE

3:27:51CONNECTION BETWEEN RESIDENTS,

3:27:53COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND THE

3:27:54CITY'S FAIR HOUSING

3:27:55INFRASTRUCTURE.

3:27:57WE ALSO ENCOURAGE THE

3:27:58COUNCIL TO EXAMINE THE CAPACITY

3:28:00AND RESOURCES OF THE OFFICE

3:28:01OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY AND

3:28:03WHETHER THE CITY HAS AN

3:28:04INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE

3:28:06NECESSARY TO RESPOND TO

3:28:08COMPLAINTS, COORDINATING

3:28:09REFERRALS AND FOLLOW THROUGH ON

3:28:11THEIR ENFORCEMENT.

3:28:12THE HOUSE IS NOT SIMPLY A

3:28:14POLICY OR LEGAL REQUIREMENT IT

3:28:17DIRECTLY AFFECTS WHERE THE

3:28:18BOSTON RESIDENTS CAN FIND

3:28:20HOUSING, REMAIN IN THEIR

3:28:22COMMUNITIES AND ACCESS

3:28:23OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE FREE FROM

3:28:25DISCRIMINATION.

3:28:26ACE IS READY TO BECOME A

3:28:28COMMUNITY PARTNER IN THIS WORK

3:28:29.

3:28:31I'LL GIVE YOU THE EXTRA 30S.

3:28:33OKAY.

3:28:34WE ARE NOT ASKING TO WORK

3:28:35AROUND THE CITY'S FAIR HOUSING

3:28:36AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

3:28:38WE'RE ASKING TO BE CONNECTED

3:28:39WITH IT.

3:28:40WE ASK THE CITY TO ESTABLISH

3:28:42CLEAR POINTS OF CONTACT.

3:28:43ADEQUATE RESOURCES.

3:28:44STRONG COORDINATION.

3:28:46MEANINGFUL LANGUAGE ACCESS.

3:28:49TRANSPARENCY AROUND COMPLAINTS,

3:28:50REFERRALS, ENFORCEMENT AND

3:28:51OUTCOMES.

3:28:51AND FINALLY, THE CITY HAS AN

3:28:53IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY IN

3:28:54ENSURING THAT FAIR HOUSING

3:28:56PROTECTIONS ARE NOT ONLY ON

3:28:57PAPER BUT AND ENFORCEABLE IN

3:28:59MEANING TO THE BOSTON

3:29:00RESIDENTS.

3:29:00THANK YOU.

3:29:01THANK YOU.

3:29:03>> AND THANK YOU FOR BEING

3:29:04HERE.

3:29:05OKAY, MR T LAWRENCE.

3:29:08RATHER THAN REPEAT THE

3:29:09IMPORTANT TESTIMONY ALREADY

3:29:11PROVIDED CONCERNING

3:29:12DISCRIMINATION, DISPLACEMENT

3:29:14AND BEING HOUSING ENFORCEMENT.

3:29:16I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON

3:29:17SEVERAL HOUSING PRACTICES THAT

3:29:19RECEIVE FAR LESS PUBLIC

3:29:22ATTENTION BUT HAVE A DIRECT

3:29:23IMPACT ON HOUSING STABILITY,

3:29:25TENANTS RIGHTS AND QUALITY

3:29:27OF LIFE IN BOSTON.

3:29:28THESE ISSUES OFTEN EXIST BELOW

3:29:30THE LEVEL OF FORMAL COMPLAINTS

3:29:32AND THEREFORE ESCAPE MEANINGFUL

3:29:35OVERSIGHT.

3:29:35YET THEY CONTRIBUTE TO

3:29:37FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, UNEQUAL

3:29:39BARGAINING POWER AND BARRIERS

3:29:41TO MAINTAINING STABLE HOUSING.

3:29:44IN MY VIEW, AS AN UPDATED

3:29:47ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

3:29:49SHOULD EXAMINE NOT ONLY WHERE

3:29:51PEOPLE CAN LIVE BUT ALSO THE

3:29:53CONDITIONS, LEASE PRACTICES AND

3:29:56HOUSING STANDARDS THAT SHAPE

3:29:57RESIDENTS DAILY LIVES.

3:29:58WEDNESDAY SECURE HOUSING FOR

3:30:01FAIR HOUSING.

3:30:02TO BE MEANINGFUL IT MUST

3:30:03INCLUDE FAIRNESS IN

3:30:05ADMINISTRATION OF LEASES.

3:30:07UTILITY AND UTILITY BILLING

3:30:10PRACTICES, ENFORCEMENT

3:30:12MECHANISMS AND MINIMUM QUALITY

3:30:15OF LIFE STANDARDS THROUGHOUT

3:30:16THE CITY.

3:30:17MANY LEE LEWIS DRAFT LEASES AND

3:30:20MANDATORY ADDENDA THAT IMPOSE

3:30:21SIGNIFICANT PENALTIES ON

3:30:23TENANTS WHILE IMPOSING

3:30:25VIRTUALLY NO CONSEQUENCES ON

3:30:26LEE LEWIS FOR VIOLATING THE

3:30:28LEASE, HOUSING CODES OR OTHER

3:30:30LEGAL OBLIGATIONS.

3:30:31WHEN INCREASINGLY TROUBLED

3:30:33PROVISION REQUIRES TENANTS TO

3:30:35PAY LANDLORDS ATTORNEY'S FEES

3:30:37UNLESS THE TENANT FULLY

3:30:39PREVAILS THROUGH A COURT

3:30:41JUDGMENT.

3:30:42IN PRACTICE, IF A TENANT

3:30:43RESOLVES A DISPUTE SETTLEMENT

3:30:46MEDIATION, ADR OR OTHER

3:30:48NEGOTIATED OUTCOME THEY MAY

3:30:50STILL BE EXPOSED TO SUBSTANTIAL

3:30:52LEGAL FEES.

3:30:53THIS CREATES A CHILLING EFFECT

3:30:55AGAINST TENANTS OF FORCING

3:30:56THEIR RIGHTS AND IMPACT ON

3:30:58THEIR CREDIT SHOULD THEY NOT BE

3:30:59ABLE TO PAY IN THE TIME SET

3:31:01FORTH IN THEIR LEASE.

3:31:03I AM ALSO HEARING CONCERNS FROM

3:31:05TENANTS REGARDING LANDLORDS

3:31:06COMBINING METERED WATER CHARGES

3:31:08WITH RENT AND ELIMINATING THE

3:31:11ABILITY TO MAKE SEPARATE

3:31:12PAYMENTS BY CHECK WHEN THE

3:31:14LEASE CLEARLY STATES THAT THEY

3:31:16CAN WHEN RESIDENTS CANNOT

3:31:18CLEARLY DISTINGUISH RENT

3:31:20OBLIGATION FROM UTILITY

3:31:21CHARGES.

3:31:21IT MAY CREATE CONFUSION,

3:31:24FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AND

3:31:25CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CAN BE USED

3:31:27TO SUPPORT EVICTION ACTIONS.

3:31:30I BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD

3:31:31INVESTIGATE THESE PRACTICES AND

3:31:33DEVELOP ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS

3:31:34WHERE APPROPRIATE.

3:31:36I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO

3:31:37CONSIDER A LOCAL ORDINANCE

3:31:39EMPOWERING THE CITY AGENCIES TO

3:31:40INVESTIGATE UNFAIR LEASE

3:31:42PROVISIONS, ISSUE FINES FOR

3:31:44ABUSIVE PRACTICES AND PROHIBIT

3:31:46WHEN SIDE LEASE TERMS THAT

3:31:48PENALIZE TENANTS WHILE

3:31:48PROVIDING NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR

3:31:51LANDLORDS.

3:31:51FINALLY, HOUSING QUALITY

3:31:54MATTERS AS MUCH AS HOUSING

3:31:55ACCESS.

3:31:56BOSTON SHOULD ESTABLISH

3:31:58OCCUPANCY SIZE STANDARDS THAT

3:32:00RECOGNIZE THE RELATIONSHIP

3:32:01BETWEEN LIVING SPACE AND

3:32:03QUALITY OF LIFE.

3:32:04FOR EXAMPLE, MANY AFFORDABLE

3:32:07ONE BEDROOM UNITS IN BOSTON ARE

3:32:09SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER THAN

3:32:11COMPARABLE UNITS IN SURROUNDING

3:32:13COMMUNITIES.

3:32:14RESIDENTS DESERVE TRANSPARENCY

3:32:15AND STANDARDS REGARDING WHAT

3:32:18CONSTITUTES A ONE BEDROOM OR

3:32:20MORE PRINCIPLES ESTABLISHED IN

3:32:22DECISIONS SUCH AS BOSTON

3:32:24HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE

3:32:25HEMINGWAY IN BOSTON HOUSING

3:32:27AUTHORITY THE BRIDGEWATER

3:32:29BRIDGEWATER'S RECOGNIZED THAT

3:32:30HOUSING IS NOT SIMPLY A

3:32:32COMMODITY IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL

3:32:33NECESSITY.

3:32:34THERE MUST BE SAFE, FAIR AND

3:32:36ACCESSIBLE.

3:32:38THANK YOU.

3:32:39>> WELCOME.

3:32:40>> IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT

3:32:42WOULD.

3:32:42LIKE TO TESTIFY THEY DESIRE.

3:32:46ONCE AND TWICE.

3:32:48THANK YOU.

3:32:49>> OKAY.

3:32:51UM, WE HAVE.

3:32:53ONE VIDEO TESTIMONY.

3:32:55THERE'S A TESTIMONY OF A

3:32:58TESTIMONY.

3:32:58IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

3:33:00SO, ETHAN.

3:33:01GO AHEAD.

3:33:02LAURIE RADWAN.

3:33:04FOLLOWED BY SHARON HINTON AND

3:33:06DIANE VALLEY JUST FOR PEOPLE TO

3:33:08KNOW.

3:33:08WHO HAD A TRANSPORTATION

3:33:09ISSUES.

3:33:10>> HE'S STILL HERE AND HE HAD

3:33:11TO LEAVE, I GUESS.

3:33:12UM, RORY, BEFORE YOU START MY

3:33:14CLOCK, CAN YOU HAND OUT THIS

3:33:15AND I'LL TAKE ANY EXTRAS.

3:33:17HELLO.

3:33:17THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS

3:33:19TESTIMONY AND TESTIMONY.

3:33:21I'M SORRY.

3:33:21WHEN I LIVE IN ROSLINDALE, I'M

3:33:23,UH, REPRESENTING THE D5

3:33:25ADVOCATES ON DOCKET TEN 91099.

3:33:29YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.

3:33:30IN A LETTER TO THE

3:33:31ADMINISTRATION, GBA LEWIS WARNS

3:33:33THAT SQUARES AND STREETS

3:33:34PROGRAM COULD EASILY DEFEAT THE

3:33:36GOAL OF AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENT

3:33:37AND INCLUSION.

3:33:39THEY DID NOT SAY EXCEPT IN

3:33:41ROSLINDALE.

3:33:41THE MAYOR'S FH ORDERS STATES

3:33:43THAT LOCATION SHOULD NOT

3:33:45DETERMINE CIVIL RIGHTS ACCESS,

3:33:47DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.

3:33:48SHE DIDN'T SAY BUT NOT IN

3:33:50ROSLINDALE.

3:33:51RESIDENTS FROM ROXBURY,

3:33:52DORCHESTER AND JP MET WITH THE

3:33:54PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO ASSURE

3:33:55THEY HAD AN ON AUDIT BEFORE

3:33:58THEY WERE SQUARES AND STREETS.

3:34:00NO ONE FROM ROSS CENTER WAS

3:34:01THERE.

3:34:03THE SQUARES AND STREETS

3:34:04REZONING IN HYDE PARK IN

3:34:06DORCHESTER WAS STOPPED OR

3:34:07EFFECTIVELY HALTED.

3:34:08YET IT MOVED FORWARD ON

3:34:10ROSLINDALE.

3:34:10SO THE FACT SHEET THAT YOU HAVE

3:34:12BEFORE YOU WILL UM, SHOW OVERT

3:34:15DISPARITIES IN COMMUNITY

3:34:16ENGAGEMENT FOR PERSONS AND

3:34:17PROTECTED GROUPS AND INCLUDING

3:34:19THOSE WITH LEP.

3:34:21AS MARTIN LUTHER KING REMINDS

3:34:23US QUOTE INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS

3:34:25A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE.

3:34:27WHATEVER AFFECTS ONE DIRECTLY

3:34:30AFFECTS ALL INDIRECTLY.

3:34:33SO INJUSTICE IN ONE DISTRICT IS

3:34:35INJUSTICE IN ALL DISTRICTS AND

3:34:37RESPONSIBILITY OF THE

3:34:39COUNCIL FOR OVERSIGHT

3:34:40OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND FAIRNESS

3:34:42DO NOT STOP AT DISTRICT LINES.

3:34:45COUNCILOR MURPHY IS NOT HERE.

3:34:46I WAS GOING TO COMMEND HER FOR

3:34:47SPEAKING UP AND SPEAKING OUT

3:34:48FOR EQUALITY IN ROSLINDALE AT

3:34:50THE ZONING COMMISSION HEARING.

3:34:52SO OF COURSE OF COURSE BOSTON'S

3:34:55HOUSING CRISIS DEMANDS URGENCY

3:34:57BUT NOT AT THE COST

3:34:59OF EQUALITY.

3:35:00I'M LOOKING FORWARD.

3:35:01COUNCILOR.

3:35:03UH CULPEPPER APRIL 9TH IS GOING

3:35:04TO BE THE NEXT SESSION OF THE

3:35:06CIVIL RIGHTS COMMITTEE HEARING.

3:35:07I THINK WE SHOULD BE USING

3:35:09ROSLINDALE AS A CASE STUDY, UM,

3:35:12TO EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENS TO

3:35:14CIVIL LIBERTIES AND RIGHTS WHEN

3:35:16THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

3:35:18PROGRESSES.

3:35:20SO LET'S REAL FAST.

3:35:22UH OH.

3:35:22>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

3:35:23I WANT TO.

3:35:24FINISH BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE GOT

3:35:25EXTRA TIME.

3:35:25I'M GOING TO GO.

3:35:26UM NO.

3:35:27>> I'M SORRY.

3:35:27FOR TIME WE'LL USE.

3:35:29>> AN F H LENS TO EXAMINE THE

3:35:30HARM CAUSED BY ROSS AND DEALS

3:35:32REZONING AND TRY TO MITIGATE IT

3:35:33AND PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING

3:35:35AGAIN.

3:35:35THANK YOU.

3:35:37>> THANK YOU.

3:35:37THANK YOU SHARON.

3:35:41THANK YOU.

3:35:43>> UM, COUNCILOR WORRELL AND

3:35:46COUNCIL CULPEPER I'M GOING TO

3:35:47ALLOW YOU ALL TO GIVE A BRIEF

3:35:49CLOSING STATEMENT.

3:35:50UH THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK

3:35:52YOU TO ALL THE COMMUNITY

3:35:53PANELISTS AND ALL THE PANELISTS

3:35:54UH, THAT SHOWED UP TODAY.

3:35:56UH, THANK YOU TO, UH, THE CHAIR

3:35:58OF MY CO-SPONSORS, MY

3:35:59COLLEAGUES, UH, FOR THE GREAT

3:36:01CONVERSATIONS AND THOSE WHO

3:36:03PROVIDED PUBLIC REMARKS.

3:36:04UH, FOR THE RECORD AND UH, JUST

3:36:08TO THE CHAIR I JUST LOVE TO

3:36:09CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION IN

3:36:10THE WORK IN SESSION.

3:36:11I THINK THAT.

3:36:13WITH THE AMOUNT OF GOALS AND

3:36:16STRATEGIES, UM.

3:36:18THAT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TO THE

3:36:20CITY OF BOSTON, I THINK IT'S

3:36:22IMPORTANT THAT WE DIVE INTO NOT

3:36:24ONLY THE METRICS BUT THE

3:36:25STATUSES, UM, AND THAT THE

3:36:27COUNCIL HAS A MORE OF A ROLE

3:36:29THAN JUST YOU KNOW, THIS

3:36:31HEARING HERE.

3:36:31SO I DEFINITELY LOVE TO HAVE,

3:36:33UH, WORK IN SESSION BY THE END

3:36:35OF THE YEAR.

3:36:36UH, TO GET AN UPDATE ON UH A

3:36:37LOT OF THE QUESTIONS AND

3:36:39STATUSES OF THE STRATEGIES BUT

3:36:40ALSO UH, THE HIRING, UM, AND

3:36:43THE APPOINTMENT OF THE

3:36:45COMMISSION.

3:36:45UM, THE FIFTH COMMISSION MEMBER

3:36:47AS WELL.

3:36:47AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I

3:36:49WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE ON UH,

3:36:51THROUGHOUT NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

3:36:52SO UM GREAT GREAT CONVERSATION

3:36:55,GREAT START.

3:36:56UM, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

3:36:58WE CONTINUE UH, THE ADVOCACY

3:36:59BUT NOT ONLY THE ADVOCACY BUT

3:37:01ROLLING UP OUR SLEEVES AND

3:37:02DIVING INTO THE NUMBERS.

3:37:04SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

3:37:05UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO

3:37:06PARTICIPATED.

3:37:07THANK YOU COUNCIL AS WELL.

3:37:08COUNCIL CULPEPER.

3:37:09THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

3:37:11AND UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE

3:37:13THAT ATTENDED AND TESTIFIED AND

3:37:16JUST MADE THEIR PRESENCE KNOWN

3:37:18.

3:37:19ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BECAME

3:37:21CLEAR TO ME IS WE HAVE A LOT

3:37:23OF WORK TO DO.

3:37:25I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK

3:37:27TO DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY

3:37:29LAID OUT 108 GOALS 14 GOALS

3:37:34UNDER THE AF OF AGE AND UH, I

3:37:39THINK WE ALSO HAVE A LOT

3:37:40OF WORK TO DO IN TERMS

3:37:42OF PUTTING TOGETHER A FAIR

3:37:43HOUSING OFFICE.

3:37:45THAT ACTUALLY.

3:37:46CAN HANDLE 108.

3:37:49UM, AND SO LET ME JUST SAY

3:37:51THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

3:37:53UH, THE ONE THING THAT

3:37:55CONTINUES TO BOTHER ME EVERYONE

3:37:57ASKS WHY ARE PEOPLE MOVING TO

3:37:59BROCKTON AND RANDOLPH IN TIME?

3:38:02AND IT'S BECAUSE SECTION EIGHT

3:38:04HOLDERS THAT ARE TRYING TO RENT

3:38:07IF YOU LOOK AT THAT 2020 REPORT

3:38:09HOW RAMPANT DISCRIMINATION IS

3:38:12WITH REGARD TO 42% OF THEM.

3:38:14THEY CAN'T RENT HERE.

3:38:16SO THEY END UP GOING TO TIME OR

3:38:19BROCKTON WHERE THEY CAN USE

3:38:21THAT SIX AND EIGHT CERTIFICATE.

3:38:23SO I HOPE WE CAN DOUBLE DOWN ON

3:38:25THAT WORK LOOK A LOT CLOSER AND

3:38:28SECTION EIGHT DISCRIMINATION IN

3:38:30THE CITY OF BOSTON AND ACTUALLY

3:38:32DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

3:38:33THANK YOU.

3:38:33THANK YOU COUNCILOR CULPEPER.

3:38:36AND I JUST WANT TO.

3:38:38END THIS HEARING BY JUST SAYING

3:38:40THANK YOU.

3:38:42TO THE PUBLIC TO TO THE.

3:38:43COMMUNITY WORKERS, TO THE

3:38:45ORGANIZERS FOR ALL THE WORK

3:38:46THAT YOU DO.

3:38:47UM, I'M VERY HONORED OF.

3:38:49THE WAY THAT THIS HEARING WENT.

3:38:50IT WAS WELL ATTENDED.

3:38:51I LEARNED AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT.

3:38:54TODAY ABOUT.

3:38:55AS COUNCILOR.

3:38:55CULPEPER MENTIONED, THE AMOUNT

3:38:57OF WORK WE HAVE YET TO.

3:38:58DO IN ORDER TO TRULY ESTABLISH

3:38:59HOW A LOT OF JUST RESTORATIVE

3:39:03WORK THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON

3:39:05RESIDENTS DESERVE.

3:39:06AND THAT YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT

3:39:07AS THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE

3:39:09.

3:39:09I WILL MAKE SURE TO KEEP THIS

3:39:12HEARING IN COMMITTEE SO THAT WE

3:39:14CAN HAVE A WORKING SESSION IN

3:39:16THE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND.

3:39:17GET SOME OF THOSE.

3:39:18ANSWERS THAT WERE ASKED TODAY

3:39:20BY MY COLLEAGUES.

3:39:21SO WITH THIS THIS HEARING ON

3:39:24DOCKET NUMBER 0695 IS

3:39:28ADJOURNED.