2026-09-23 - Committee of the Whole

00:59WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE

01:00WHOLE THE CAPE CORAL CITY

01:01COUNCIL TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 23RD

01:052026.

01:05THIS MEETING NOW COMES TO

01:06ORDER.

01:07PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF

01:08ALLEGIANCE.

01:11I PLEDGE.

01:12ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE

01:14UNITED STATES OF.

01:15AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR

01:17WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION

01:20UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH

01:23LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

01:28MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL

01:29THE ROLL.

01:30MAYOR GUNTER HERE.

01:32COUNCIL MEMBERS.

01:33DONNELL YOU.

01:36>> HERE KILL RAYNE HERE.

01:37LAST ROW HERE.

01:38LEMON HERE.

01:39LONG.

01:39HERE.

01:40STINKY HERE.

01:41ALL PRESENT.

01:43THANK YOU.

01:43>> JUST A REMINDER ANYONE WHO

01:45WISHES TO SPEAK TO CITIZENS

01:46INPUT MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A

01:48COMMENT CARD IN THE BOX.

01:49UH, TO MY LEFT.

01:50RIGHT WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THE

01:52DOORS WILL BE AT THAT, UH,

01:53PORTION OF THE MEETING HERE IN

01:54A MINUTE.

01:55UH, ITEM FIVE IS CITIZENS INPUT

01:57TIME.

01:58CITIZENS INPUT IS A MAXIMUM OF

02:0160 MINUTES AND IS SET FOR THE

02:03INPUT OF CITIZENS ON MATTERS

02:05CONCERNING CITY GOVERNMENT.

02:07IT WILL BE THREE MINUTES PER

02:09INDIVIDUAL.

02:09PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR

02:10NAME FOR THE RECORD.

02:11WE'LL BE USING THE PODIUM TO MY

02:14LEFT.

02:14YOU'RE RIGHT.

02:16UH, MADAM CITY CLERK, IF YOU

02:18COULD GO AHEAD AND CALL THE

02:19FIRST INDIVIDUAL.

02:21WEST OWEN AND CHARLES CRANE.

02:30HELLO, WEST.

02:31>> OWEN.

02:32WOW.

02:33AM I SORRY I MISSED LAST WEEK

02:35COUNCIL MEETING WHEN THE CITY

02:36MANAGER PUBLICLY APOLOGIZED TO

02:38HIS STAFF FOR NOT DEFENDING

02:41THEM WHEN COUNCIL CHALLENGES

02:42THEY WEREN'T DURING THE BUDGET

02:43PROCESS ANY REFERENCE CRITICISM

02:46INVOLVING QUALITY OF WORK

02:49MANIPULATION, TRICKERY AND

02:51CHANGING OF NUMBERS.

02:53WELL, I'VE BEEN CRITICAL TO

02:55I'VE CALLED SOME OF WHAT I'VE

02:56SEEN CHILDISH LAZY AMATEURS AND

02:59I'VE EVEN QUESTIONED WHETHER

03:00INFORMATION PRESENTED TO

03:01TAXPAYERS AND COUNCIL WAS

03:02PURPOSELY MISLEADING.

03:04THE QUESTION.

03:05ISN'T WHETHER THE CRITICISM

03:07MADE SOMEONE UNCOMFORTABLE OR

03:08IF IT WAS NOT NICE.

03:10THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT WAS

03:11SUPPORTED BY THE FACTS.

03:14WHEN COUNCIL SEES NUMBERS THAT

03:16DON'T RECONCILE, NUMBERS THAT

03:19CHANGE OR QUESTIONS THE CITY

03:21ISN'T PREPARED TO ANSWER.

03:22COUNCIL SHOULDN'T BACK AWAY

03:24FROM SOME.

03:24SOMEBODY MIGHT BE OFFENDED.

03:26THEY SHOULD ASK HARDER

03:28QUESTIONS AND HEAR WHY THOSE

03:31QUESTIONS MATTER.

03:32I PREVIOUSLY QUESTIONED WHY THE

03:34CITY'S FSA FORECAST SHOWED

03:36RELATIVELY LITTLE CHANGE IN 27

03:38DESPITE A LARGE INCREASE IN THE

03:39FIRE BUDGET FOLLOWED BY A MUCH

03:42LARGER F AS I INCREASE THE

03:44FORECAST AFTER THE ELECTION.

03:46THE CITY HAS SINCE BUT WAS A

03:48DIFFERENT FORECAST 2028 HAS

03:50SUDDENLY DROPPED $10.5 MILLION.

03:53I'M GLAD THAT NUMBER'S LOWER

03:55BUT WHY DID IT CHANGE?

03:57DID THE FIRE BUDGET DECREASE?

04:01HAD THE CITY'S NAME PREVIOUSLY

04:02MADE MISTAKES IN CALCULATING

04:03THE ASSESSMENT OR IS IT

04:05TRIGGERING?

04:07I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER BUT I

04:11HAVEN'T FOUND ANY EXPLANATION

04:12DOCUMENTING WHY THE 28 FORECAST

04:14CHANGED BY 28 MILLION, THE

04:16NUMBER SIMPLY PLUMMETED FROM

04:17ONE CITY DOCUMENT TO ANOTHER.

04:20THE CITY HAS DOCUMENTED THIS

04:22REASON.

04:22SHOW US.

04:23TELL US WHAT CHANGED WHEN IT

04:26CHANGED AND WHY.

04:28I AND OTHERS HAVE REPEATEDLY

04:30ASKED QUESTIONS FROM THIS

04:31PODIUM AND RECEIVED NO

04:34RESPONSE.

04:34I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS MY

04:35EMAIL.

04:39RECEIVED PARTIAL ANSWERS AT

04:40BEST AND THEN HAD FOLLOW UP

04:42QUESTIONS SEEKING ANSWERS

04:44SEEKING COMPLETE ANSWERS GO

04:45UNANSWERED.

04:48COUNCIL SHOULD ASK QUESTIONS.

04:50TAXPAYERS SHOULD ASK QUESTIONS

04:53AND WHEN TAXPAYERS COME TO THIS

04:54PODIUM AND ASK QUESTIONS, THEY

04:55DESERVE ANSWERS FROM AN HONEST

04:56,COMPETENT AND TRANSPARENT

04:58CITY STAFF.

05:00THAT'S NOT DISRESPECTFUL MASTER

05:03STANDARDS TAXPAYERS SHOULD

05:03EXPECT FROM THEIR GOVERNMENT.

05:06INSTEAD OF APOLOGIZING BECAUSE

05:08I COUNCIL ASKED POINTING

05:09QUESTIONS.

05:10I'D LIKE TO HEAR AN APOLOGY TO

05:11THE TAXPAYERS AND COUNCIL FOR

05:13THE QUESTIONS THE CITY HASN'T

05:14ANSWERED.

05:15DON'T APOLOGIZE.

05:17GUYS QUESTIONS WERE ASKED.

05:18ANSWER THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE

05:20EVERY TAXPAYER MATTERS.

05:21THANK YOU.

05:33GOOD MORNING, CHARLES CRANE.

05:35SPENDING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY

05:37SOP I'M SPINNING OUT OF CONTROL

05:39.

05:40WANTS NOT NEEDS.

05:42SOUND FAMILIAR?

05:43TIME FOR A SPECIFIC I TOLD YOU

05:45SO EXAMPLE LAST WEEK YOU ALL

05:47VOTED 5 TO 2 FOR 53 VEHICLE

05:51SERVICE BAYS.

05:52BY APRIL OF 2028 AT A COST

05:57SOMEWHERE IN THE 40 ISH MILLION

06:00DOLLARS.

06:00NOT THE NEEDS OF 30 BAYS IN

06:032045, NOT THE NEED OF 40 BAYS

06:06IN.

06:072070 53 BAYS ALONG WITH

06:11THOUSANDS OF SQUARE FEET OF

06:12ADMIN OFFICE SPACE IN LESS THAN

06:14TWO YEARS.

06:15NOT A NEED.

06:16NOT EVEN A WANT BUT A WISH UPON

06:19A STAR AT OUR EXPENSE.

06:22AND ONLY ONE OF YOU TRIED TO

06:25ANSWER OR ASK EVEN THE SIMPLEST

06:27QUESTIONS.

06:27THIS IS WHY I SUPPORT AND WILL

06:30ADVOCATE FOR A SPENDING REVIEW

06:32COMMITTEE NEXT COUNCIL AND SO

06:35WE CAN ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS

06:37YOU APPARENTLY CAN'T, WON'T OR

06:40DON'T WHETHER TO AVOID

06:42EMBARRASSMENT OR AVOID

06:43CONDESCENDING OR SNARKY

06:45COMMENTS BY FELLOW COUNCIL OR

06:47STAFF AND SHE WILL DO THE DIRTY

06:49WORK FOR YOU.

06:50HERE'S THE QUESTIONS A PROPER

06:53SC WOULD ASK HOW MUCH IS 40 ISH

06:56MILLION 41 ISH 49 ISH HOW MANY

07:00BAYS ARE PLANNED TO BE EQUIPPED

07:01BY APRIL 2028?

07:03HOW MUCH OFFICE SPACE WILL BE

07:04UTILIZED?

07:05DOES THE 40 ISH MILLION DOLLARS

07:07INCLUDE ALL THE FANCY

07:09FURNITURE, FIXTURES, EQUIPMENT

07:11,COMPUTERS, LAPTOPS, LIFTS,

07:13AIR COMPRESSORS, LOCKERS,

07:15TOOLING EQUIPMENT, CAGES, ALARM

07:16SYSTEMS, BADGE READERS, SERVERS

07:18,CAMERAS, DESKS.

07:19CHAIRS.

07:19REFRIGERATORS.

07:20MICROWAVES.

07:22DOES THE COST INCLUDE THE

07:23REFURBISHMENT OF EVEREST?

07:24ALL THE PLANNED REPLACEMENT OF

07:26FANI FOR EVEREST?

07:27IF NOT HOW MUCH AND FUNDING

07:30FROM WHAT ACCOUNT DOES THE COST

07:33INCLUDE THE PERSONNEL DEMAND

07:34THE BAYS PLANNED UTILIZE THE

07:36ADMIN SPACE AND CLEAN THE

07:38FACILITY EVERY NIGHT.

07:39WHAT IS THE MANAGED SCHEDULE?

07:41WHAT IS THE YEARLY RECURRING

07:42COST CHARGE TO WHICH FUNDS?

07:4440 ISH MILLION ALL IN.

07:46YOU WANT TO BET?

07:48TOO BAD WE THE ULTIMATE CHECK

07:50WRITERS FOR THIS DREAM FACILITY

07:53DIDN'T GET TO ASK THESE SIMPLE

07:55QUESTIONS AND GET SIMPLE

07:56ANSWERS.

07:57TOO BAD FIVE OF YOU DIDN'T

08:00THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH

08:01TO GET THOSE ANSWERS BEFORE YOU

08:02WROTE THE CHAT FOR US.

08:04OUR CHILDREN AND OUR

08:07GRANDCHILDREN.

08:07THANK YOU.

08:11TOM, SHADRACH AND EARL STAFFORD

08:13.

08:20GOOD MORNING COUNCIL TOM.

08:22SHADRACH.

08:22UM, JUST TALK ABOUT THE YACHT

08:24CLUB TODAY.

08:25UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN

08:28WORKING ON THE YACHT CLUB AND

08:29WHAT IT WANTS TO LOOK LIKE FOR

08:31TEN YEARS.

08:32IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'VE

08:34KIND OF COME TO AN IMPASSE

08:36BECAUSE OF AFFORDABILITY OF

08:38$250 MILLION TAJ MAHAL.

08:40UH, THAT IS COMPLETELY AGAINST

08:42THE PUBLIC'S DESIRE AND, UH,

08:45AND THAT INSTEAD OF DOWNSIZING

08:48IT TO SOMETHING MORE

08:49APPROPRIATE.

08:50YOU'VE ASKED CITIZENS TO COME

08:52FORWARD WITH AN UNSOLICITED

08:54PROPOSAL TO TRY TO SOLVE THE

08:55PROBLEM FOR YOU.

08:56AND UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH,

08:59RESIDENTS THAT HAVE PUT

09:00TOGETHER PROPOSALS TO TRY TO DO

09:02THAT.

09:03BUT THEN WE GET SOMETHING THAT

09:05IS ALSO TOTALLY UNWANTED BY THE

09:07PUBLIC WHICH IS HOTELS UH, ON A

09:10PARK.

09:11I THINK WE LEARNED FROM THE

09:12BIMINI EAST PROJECT THAT NO ONE

09:14WANTED TO LOSE FOUR FREEDOMS

09:16PARK AND NOW IT LOOKS LIKE

09:17WE'RE GOING TO USE LOSE.

09:19IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH THIS, UH

09:22,THE YACHT CLUB PARK AND YOU

09:24KNOW, WE ALL YOU SPENT $90

09:26MILLION BUILDING NEW PARKS, YOU

09:29KNOW, TEN YEARS AGO A PLAN

09:30THAT'S BUILD NEW PARKS SO WE

09:31NEED NEW PARKS AND NOW

09:33BASICALLY WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE

09:34TWO OF THEM AWAY.

09:35UH, I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC

09:37WANTS THAT.

09:37SO, UH, THE ARGUMENT HERE IS

09:42THESE I'VE READ THESE

09:43PROPOSALS.

09:43I READ THE DETERMINATION BY THE

09:45CITY MANAGERS THAT THESE ARE

09:47QUALIFIED PROJECTS.

09:49TO ME YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES

09:52THAT CAN MAKE THAT

09:53DETERMINATION.

09:54BECAUSE THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE

09:56THERE IS WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO

09:58THE PUBLIC?

09:59THAT'S YOUR DECISION.

10:00WE'VE ELECTED YOU TO REPRESENT

10:03THE RESIDENTS TO MAKE THAT THE

10:06THAT DECISION.

10:07NOT THESE GUYS OVER HERE.

10:09THEY SHOULDN'T BE MAKING THAT

10:11DETERMINATION.

10:11THAT'S YOUR JOB ON WHAT'S

10:13QUALIFIED AND WHAT BENEFIT THE

10:17PUBLIC.

10:17YOU REPRESENT US.

10:18THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN AND

10:20GIVEN YOU THEIR THOUGHTS FOR

10:22TEN YEARS ON WHAT TO DO THERE.

10:24AND UH A THEY WANT AN

10:28AFFORDABLE IT'S NOT THAT AND B

10:30I DON'T THINK THEY WANT

10:32COMMERCIALITY DOWN THERE.

10:33SO YOU GUYS GOT TO MAKE THAT

10:35DECISION TODAY AND HOPEFULLY

10:36YOU TAKE THAT BACK AS YOUR

10:38DECISION ON WHAT'S QUALIFIED

10:40AND WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO THE

10:42PUBLIC.

10:43THANK YOU.

10:52HI MY NAME IS EARL STAFFORD.

10:54UM HERE IN UH REGARDS TO THE

10:56CAPE.

10:57>> CORAL YACHT CLUB IMPROVEMENT

10:58THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

11:00I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH IT.

11:01UM, BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR 20

11:04YEARS, LIVE ADJACENT TO THE

11:06YACHT CLUB AREA AND I.

11:08I WENT OVER THERE THIS LAST

11:10FALL WITH THE PARKING AS IT IS

11:13AND THE BEACH WAS COMPLETELY

11:14PACKED.

11:15THERE WAS NO.

11:16ROOM FOR PEOPLE.

11:17NOW YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A 600

11:19CAR PARKING LOT THERE A HOTEL

11:22AND A RESTAURANT.

11:23WHO ARE WE DEVELOPING THIS FOR

11:25?

11:25THE DEVELOPERS BECAUSE THE

11:27PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE

11:29ACCESS TO THE BEACH ANYMORE IF

11:30THEY GO THROUGH WITH THIS MAJOR

11:32DEVELOPMENT AND THE TRAFFIC ON

11:35LUCERNE, DRIFTWOOD AND

11:36CORONADO, WHAT'S GOING TO

11:37BECOME A SUPER HIGHWAY?

11:39NOW I LIVE RIGHT ADJACENT TO

11:42DRIFTWOOD.

11:42I MEAN IT'S GOING TO BE

11:44HORRIBLE THE TRAFFIC.

11:45SECONDLY, I COULD LOOK OUT MY

11:46FRONT DOOR AND SEE A SEVEN

11:48STORY HOTEL AND I DON'T THINK

11:50THAT'S WHAT I MOVED TO CAPE

11:51CORAL FOR.

11:52I CAME HERE FOR A QUAINT SINGLE

11:55FAMILY HOME AREA.

11:57THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO

11:59LIVE.

12:00IT WAS QUIET.

12:01I CAME FROM CHICAGO SO I'VE

12:03LIVED IN.

12:03THE METROPOLITAN AREA AND I

12:05DON'T WANT THAT AND I DON'T

12:07THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT

12:08HAVE COME HERE WANT.

12:08THAT.

12:09>> AND I COULD ONLY HOPE THAT

12:11YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE

12:13OF CAPE CORAL LIVE HERE.

12:14THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO A

12:15HOTEL.

12:16WHO'S GOING TO THE HOTEL?

12:18IT'S NOT THE RESIDENCE.

12:19YOU'RE NOT BUILDING THIS

12:21FACILITY FOR THE RESIDENTS.

12:22YOU'RE BUILDING IT FOR

12:23DEVELOPERS.

12:24FOR RESTAURANTS AND OTHER

12:26ENTITIES THAT AREN'T SUPPORTING

12:27WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.

12:29I WOULD STRONGLY ASK YOU PLEASE

12:32DO NOT VOTE IN THESE TWO

12:35PROPOSALS.

12:36I THINK AN IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT

12:37WAS THE EXISTING A SMALL UH YOU

12:40KNOW, A LARGER ROTINI CENTER

12:42THERE.

12:42UH, THE FACILITIES IMPROVE

12:44SOMEWHAT BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT

12:47THAT YOU'RE DOING IT.

12:48AND THE OTHER THING IS WHAT DO

12:49WE DO WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE?

12:52THERE'S NOT THE THE

12:53INFRASTRUCTURE DOESN'T SUPPORT

12:55THE SEWAGE TREATMENT THE WATER,

12:57THE ELECTRIC AND ALL THAT AREA

12:58.

12:58IT WOULD BE TOTALLY DISRUPTIVE

13:00TO THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THOSE

13:03CHANGES.

13:03THANK YOU.

13:06MARCO STAFFORD AND MARIE

13:09KAVANAGH.

13:14I'M MARGO STAFFORD AND I GUESS

13:16MY HUSBAND PRETTY.

13:16MUCH SAID EVERYTHING.

13:18UM THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE

13:19TO.

13:20REITERATE IS.

13:20THAT THIS IS ALL BEING.

13:23DONE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT IN

13:25CAPE CORAL.

13:27IT'S TO ME AND WANT TO GRAB AND

13:29THAT'S OKAY TO MAKE MONEY BUT

13:32NOT AT OUR EXPENSE.

13:33WE HAVE TO WE'RE GOING TO BE

13:34PAYING TAXES ON GAS.

13:37YOU WANT TO INCREASE TAXES ON

13:38ELECTRICITY?

13:39TAXES ON WATER TO OFFSET

13:42EXPENSES FOR THE PROJECT AND I

13:43DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.

13:44THANK YOU.

13:53MY NAME IS MARIE KAVANAGH.

13:55I'M WITH TAKE OUT THE TRASH

13:57COMMITTEE OF CAPE CORAL VICE

13:58CHAIR.

13:59I MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL

14:01DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE AN

14:02ORDINANCE AMENDING AGENDA,

14:03RULES OR PROCEDURES TO REMOVE

14:05THE MAYOR'S SOLE APPROVAL

14:07AUTHORITY OVER THE CONSENT

14:08AGENDA AND TO PLACE THIS ITEM

14:10ON THE NEXT AVAILABLE COUNCIL

14:12AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AND A

14:13VOTE.

14:14AND MY REASON FOR THAT IS I'M

14:17TAKING A LOOK AT THE AGENDA AND

14:19IT IS BEING PACKED BY A MAN WHO

14:22LOST HIS PRIMARY ELECTION BID

14:24BY OVER 85%.

14:26THAT IS A FULL THROATED

14:29REJECTION OF THE DIRECTION THE

14:32CITY IS GOING IN AND FOR THE

14:33PAST SIX YEARS.

14:35EIGHT PEOPLE.

14:36HAVE MADE THESE DECISIONS

14:39IGNORING US JAYCEE PARK.

14:41THEY IGNORED US BIMINI FOR THE

14:45FOR SAVE THE FOR FREEDOMS PARK

14:47.

14:47YOU'RE GOING TO IGNORE IT.

14:49NOW YOU'RE YOU WANT TO BUILD A

14:51HOTEL DOWN THERE AND IT'S GOING

14:52TO HAVE A POOL.

14:53DO YOU THINK PEOPLE CAN AFFORD

14:55COMING TO A FOUR STAR HOTEL ARE

14:57GOING TO WANT TO SHARE THE POOL

14:58WITH THE UNWASHED MASSES OF

15:01CAPE CORAL?

15:02OF COURSE NOT.

15:04THERE'S NOT THIS IS NOT FOR THE

15:05PEOPLE.

15:06WE NEED IT FOR THE PEOPLE.

15:08ONE THING.

15:08GIVE US ONE THING.

15:11YES.

15:12BUILD A NICE COMMUNITY CENTER.

15:15YES.

15:16BUILD A POOL.

15:17YES.

15:17PUT THE THE BOAT LAUNCH BACK

15:19IN.

15:19YES.

15:20PUT UP THE PIER.

15:22BUT YOU DO NOT NEED A THREE

15:26STORY PARKING GARAGE.

15:27YOU DO NOT NEED A HOTEL AND ONE

15:29OF THEM HAS TOWNHOUSES.

15:30JUST WHAT WE NEED.

15:31MORE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

15:34AND HOWARD, LOOK AT THE ROADS

15:36LEADING INTO THIS AREA.

15:37THEY CAN'T ACCOMMODATE THE

15:38CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT THAT'S

15:40GOT TO TRAVEL THOSE ON A DAILY

15:42BASIS.

15:42THEY'RE GOING TO BE DESTROYED.

15:43WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT?

15:45AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IF YOU

15:48PUSH THIS THROUGH THE

15:49DEVELOPERS NEED TO PUT THE

15:51ROADS UP TO THE STANDARDS THAT

15:52THEY NEED TO BE WHICH THEY ARE

15:54NOT NOW THEY ARE JUST ROADS FOR

15:56INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR SINGLE

15:58FAMILY HOMES.

15:59NO ONE'S CONSIDERING THAT.

16:00NO ONE'S CONSIDERING WHAT WE

16:03WANT.

16:04WE DON'T WANT WHAT YOU'RE

16:06SELLING AND SO SO AND YOU KNOW

16:11THE WHOLE FLOODING THING.

16:12WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO WITH

16:13THE FLOODING IN THE AREA?

16:15BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD

16:16IT UP.

16:18AND THEY'RE GOING TO POUR

16:20CONCRETE OVER IT.

16:21WHERE'S THE WATER ALL GOING TO

16:22GO?

16:24AND YOU KNOW WHO WANTS TO SWIM

16:27GO TO THE BEACH AND SWIM IN THE

16:30CALOOSAHATCHEE.

16:31NOT ME.

16:36KEITH STEVENS AND DAVID HALSEY.

16:58GOOD MORNING.

16:59>> MY UH.

17:00MY NEIGHBOR IS NOT HERE TODAY.

17:02SO I HAVE SOME NOTES FROM HIM.

17:04I'M KEITH STEVENS.

17:05I HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN

17:08SOUTHWEST FLORIDA.

17:09PERFORMER.

17:09MY PARENTS WINTERED HERE EVERY

17:12YEAR.

17:12I MOVED HERE AT 62 YEARS OLD.

17:14I'M 71 NOW.

17:16I DID THAT TO RETIRE AS AN

17:18ELECTRICIAN AND PERFORM HERE

17:20AND SAIL.

17:21THE QUESTIONS I HAVE NOW I LIVE

17:23AT ROSEN PARK MARINA.

17:25I'M ON A LEASE.

17:27I HAVE INSURANCE.

17:29I PAY MY UTILITIES TO THE CITY

17:32AND UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED, UH,

17:34EVICTION NOTICES.

17:35AND HERE'S A QUESTION FROM

17:38BRIAN.

17:38WILL ANYONE TELL US WHY THE

17:40CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE NOT

17:43AWARE OF THIS EVICTION NOTICE

17:45ISSUED BY THE CITY?

17:48THAT'S A QUESTION.

17:50ANOTHER QUESTION.

17:52WHY NOT ALLOW AN EXTENSION

17:55UNTIL THE NEW MAYOR IS IN

17:57OFFICE?

17:58THE MAYOR JUST GOT VOTED OUT

18:00WHEN WE WENT TO OUR MEETING.

18:01OUR EVICTION MEETING?

18:03THEY SAID THE REASON WE WERE

18:05EVICTED CAME RIGHT FROM THE

18:08MAYOR.

18:10THAT WAS OUR MEETING.

18:11WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SINGLE

18:13OUT PEOPLE, WILL THEY SINGLED

18:14ME OUT FOR SOME REASON.

18:17I HAVE INSURANCE.

18:19SOMEBODY SAID OH IT'S

18:21LIABILITY.

18:21THERE'S NO LIABILITY I PAY FOR

18:24THAT LIABILITY.

18:25OH AND ALSO THE COMMENTS LAST

18:27WEEK WHEN I GOT THE GAVEL I

18:30HAVE A 14.5FT WIDE SAILING

18:34CATAMARAN $65,000 BOAT.

18:37THERE'S NO PLACE THAT CAN TAKE

18:39IT RIGHT NOW.

18:40THEY SENT ME A LIST OF MARINAS

18:42THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HOUSE ME

18:45AND THERE'S THERE'S NONE

18:46AVAILABLE.

18:47NO LIVEABOARD.

18:48UH, THE LAST QUESTION IS WHY

18:50DON'T WE HAVE A MOORING FIELD

18:53HERE?

18:53WHY DON'T WE HAVE MOORING?

18:55IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR

18:58YOUR MARINA, WHICH IS A

19:00BEAUTIFUL MARINA.

19:00HERE'S SIMILAR THING.

19:01WHAT I HAVE WHAT, 58 SECONDS

19:03LEFT?

19:04THE, UH UH OUR MARINA.

19:07I HAD MY BOAT IN THE MARINA FOR

19:09TWO HURRICANES AND OUR MARINA

19:12WAS REBUILT AND THEY RERAN THE

19:14POWER AND THEY RERAN THE WATER

19:16.

19:16THEY DID NOTHING TO THE MAIN

19:19MARINA THAT YOU'RE TALKING

19:21ABOUT WHERE THEY WANT $258

19:24MILLION.

19:24WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST REBUILD

19:26IT?

19:26I COULD HAVE MOVED THERE.

19:28I COULD HAVE GONE FROM THIS

19:30MARINA TO THAT MARINA AND I'D

19:32BEEN TALKING TO PARK PARKS AND

19:34RECS ABOUT IT FOR THREE YEARS.

19:37THEY TOLD ME AFTER THE

19:38HURRICANE OH, IT'S GOING TO BE

19:40A TWO YEAR PROJECT.

19:41THEN YOU CAN MOVE IN THERE.

19:43WELL, WHERE DO I MOVE NOW?

19:46WHY EVICT ME?

19:47WHY NOT WAIT WAIT UNTIL THE NEW

19:50THE NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE VOTED

19:53IN TAKE OVER AND LET'S WORK ON

19:55THIS AND TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT

19:57BECAUSE WE WEREN'T GIVEN A

19:58REASON.

20:00THANK YOU.

20:01I'M SORRY.

20:13GOOD MORNING, MAYOR.

20:14AND COUNCIL.

20:16I'M HERE AGAIN.

20:18>> TO.

20:18TALK ABOUT THE YACHT CLUB LIKE

20:19I HAVE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF

20:21YEARS.

20:22AND AND I.

20:23>> AM DEFINITELY IN NO, I DON'T

20:25KNOW HOW ON HOTELS AND A LARGE

20:29NO ON TOWNHOUSES.

20:32I CAN REALLY SEE IF THEY PUT

20:35TOWNHOUSES DOWN THERE ON THAT

20:36BACK CANAL.

20:36THOSE POOR PEOPLE ACROSS.

20:38ACROSS THE CANAL.

20:40THOSE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO

20:41WIND UP AS AIRBNBS AND WE'RE

20:42NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING BUT

20:43THE COPS DOWN THERE ALL THE

20:45TIME TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO

20:47TURN OFF THE MUSIC OR STOP.

20:49>> THE.

20:49PARTY AFTER.

20:509 OR 10 OR WHATEVER.

20:52THAT'S A NO GO FOR SURE.

20:54THIS WHOLE THESE £0.02 THREES.

20:58UH I'M DEFINITELY A NO.

21:00AND ONE OF THEM THEY CAN BE

21:02MARINE ON PAGE 24.

21:04THE EIGHT QUOTE SECTION 225505.

21:08IT'S NOT A PLANNING.

21:10THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE UM

21:14GOVERNMENT IN THE FLORIDA.

21:15IT'S CALLED HERE IN FLORIDA THE

21:17LITTLE MILLER ACT WHERE OVER.

21:20IT'S EITHER 150,000 OR 200,000.

21:24WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.

21:24ABLE TO GET.

21:25A BOND A PERFORMANCE BOND AND

21:29THESE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY SAYING

21:30THAT THEY DON'T QUALIFY.

21:31IT'S OUR LAND.

21:33WE CAN ASK WHATEVER WE WANT.

21:35IF THAT GOES THROUGH, THEY

21:36SHOULD HAVE A PERFORMANCE BOND

21:38.

21:38THAT'S MY POINT.

21:40IT'S AN EXPENSE TO THE CITY

21:43BECAUSE WE DO OWN THE LAND.

21:44IF THEY'RE GOING TO SAY IT'S

21:45NOT AN EXPENSE TO THE CITY THAT

21:46IT'S THEIR CAPITAL.

21:48THE THE OTHER GOOD THING ABOUT

21:49A PERFORMANCE BOND IS THEY'LL

21:51HAVE TO GO TO A THEY'LL HAVE TO

21:53HAVE ALL OF THEIR FINANCIAL

21:55FINANCERS FINANCIAL RECORDS

21:59BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN BEGIN TO

22:00GET THE BOND BEFORE THE CITY

22:01SAYS OKAY.

22:03ALL RIGHT.

22:04AGAIN, I THINK THAT ALL OF

22:06THESE PROJECTS NEED TO HAVE A

22:09BID BOND AND ALSO A PERFORMANCE

22:13BOND.

22:13SO LOOK IT UP GOOGLE IT.

22:15YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING

22:17ABOUT.

22:17I THINK BOTH EVEN THE ONES IN

22:20THE PAST EVEN THE NEW THE

22:22PRAIRIE PARTNERS I UNDERSTAND

22:24THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A

22:25PERFORMANCE.

22:25BOND BUT WE NEED TO BE DOING

22:27THAT ON BIDS.

22:28IF WE HAVE HAD A BID BOND AT

22:31JAYCEE PARK FOR THE FOR THE

22:33CONCESSION, WE WOULDN'T HAVE

22:35BEEN HELD WITH $1 MILLION

22:37CONCESSION THAT'S NOW EMPTY BY

22:39ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ALSO ARE

22:41INVOLVED IN ONE OF THESE P

22:42THREES.

22:42THANK YOU ALL.

22:43APPRECIATE IT.

22:46TERRY THOMAS AND JOSEPH GLENN.

22:58GOOD MORNING.

22:59MY NAME IS TERRY TITMUS.

23:01I LIVE AT 5348 MALIBU COURT AND

23:03THE CLUB AREA.

23:04I'M SPEAKING FOR MY FAMILY AND

23:06MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

23:08UM AND PROBABLY MOST OF THE

23:10PEOPLE IN THE YACHT CLUB AREA.

23:11WE DO NOT WANT A HOTEL OR A

23:14RESORT STYLE POOL AT THE YACHT

23:17CLUB AND CERTAINLY NOT

23:19TOWNHOMES.

23:20IMAGINE THE TRAFFIC ON CORONADO

23:23AND THE STREET LEADING DOWN TO

23:24THE YACHT CLUB.

23:26UH, IT WOULD BE HORRIBLE.

23:28WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY PARK BACK

23:31WITH A COMMUNITY CENTER.

23:33WHERE THEY COULD HOST EVENTS

23:35AND RECREATION PROGRAMS.

23:37WE WANT A COMMUNITY POOL FOR

23:41LAP SWIMMING FOR KIDS, SWIM

23:43LESSONS FOR AQUATICS, EXERCISE

23:46CLASSES, SWIM TEAM PRACTICES.

23:48WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY POOL.

23:50A SPLASH PAD NEAR THE BEACH OR

23:53POOL WOULD BE EXTRA NICE FOR

23:55COOLING OFF IN THIS HOT WEATHER

23:57.

23:58UM PARKING HAS BEEN AN ISSUE

24:00AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

24:02UM BUT PARKING RIGHT ALONG THE

24:05BEACH IS A REAL NECESSITY.

24:08IT'S A IT'S A WONDERFUL AMENITY

24:12TO THE BEACH AREA FOR PEOPLE TO

24:14BE ABLE TO PARK RIGHT IN FRONT

24:15OF THE BEACH.

24:16UM, ADDITIONAL PARKING WILL BE

24:18NEEDED.

24:19I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE

24:20AGAINST A PARKING GARAGE AS

24:23LONG AS IT'S NOT RIGHT AT THE

24:24BEACH.

24:25I'M NOT TERRIBLY AGAINST THAT,

24:27BUT, UM, COMMUNITY PARKS ARE

24:30FOR THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS

24:33ALIKE.

24:33UM, BUT SHOULD BE PROVIDED BY

24:35THE CITY.

24:36UM RESIDENTS VOTED FOR UM

24:40ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR PARKS.

24:42AND I KNOW YOU HAVE ADDED SOME

24:44PARKS BUT WE NEED OUR YACHT

24:47CLUB COMMUNITY PARK TO BE

24:50REBUILT AS A COMMUNITY PARK AND

24:53NOT A RESORT STYLE PRIVATE

24:55DEVELOPMENT.

24:56THANK YOU.

24:57>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

25:08UM, MY NAME IS JOSEPH GLENN.

25:10I'M ALSO A.

25:11RESIDENT OF THE YACHT CLUB AREA

25:12.

25:13UM, MY WIFE AND I HAVE A FOUR

25:14YEAR OLD.

25:15WE MOVED HERE FROM THE

25:17NORTHEAST AREA OF THE COUNTRY

25:18ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO.

25:20SPECIFICALLY TO ENJOY THE

25:22LIFESTYLE THAT CAPE CORAL

25:25AFFORDS THE MAJORITY OF ITS

25:26CITIZENS.

25:26IT'S A VERY PEACEFUL AND CALM

25:28AND ENJOYABLE PLACE TO LIVE.

25:30UM, I REGULARLY WALK MY DOGS

25:33THROUGH THE CAPE CORAL PARK

25:35AREA.

25:35IT IS VERY ENCOURAGING TO SEE

25:37THE NUMBER OF CITIZENS WHO

25:39ENJOY THE BEACH.

25:40IT IS VERY URGING TO SEE THE

25:43NUMBER OF VISITORS WHO ENJOY

25:44THE BEACH ON THE WEEKENDS AND

25:45DURING THE WEEK.

25:46IT IS A SEMINAL PART OF OUR.

25:50CITY TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THE

25:52CITIZENS AND REPLACE THAT WITH

25:54A COMPLEX THAT WILL ALMOST

25:57SOLELY FOCUS ON THE ENJOYMENT

25:58OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF

26:00OUR CITY.

26:00IS VERY DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR.

26:02AS UH ONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS

26:04,WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING A VERY

26:05LONG TIME TO ENJOY WHAT'S

26:08PROBABLY THE BEST PARK IN THE

26:10CITY SINCE HURRICANE IAN.

26:12THE LAST THING THAT WE WANT IS

26:13TO BE PUSHED OUT IN FAVOR OF

26:15PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OTHER PARTS

26:17OF THE COUNTRY.

26:18THEY HAVEN'T BEEN WAITING FOR

26:19THIS.

26:19THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT IT AND

26:21FRANKLY I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF

26:22THEY CARE.

26:23BUT IF YOU HEARD THESE PEOPLE

26:24SPEAK BEFORE ME, THERE'S A LOT

26:26OF PASSION AND A LOT OF

26:27INTEREST IN THIS ISSUE AND I

26:29WOULD JUST ASK THE CITY COUNCIL

26:31AND THE MAYOR TO.

26:32REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE MOVED TO

26:34THIS AREA FOR A SPECIFIC TYPE

26:36OF LIFESTYLE AND THAT DOES NOT

26:39INCLUDE A SEVEN STORY HOTEL.

26:40THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR

26:42LOVELY BEACH AREA BEING LOST TO

26:44PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN LIVE

26:45HERE.

26:46THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE LOCAL

26:48FISHERMEN NOT HAVING APPEARED

26:49TO BE ABLE TO WALK OUT AND USE

26:50WITH THEIR CHILDREN ON THE

26:52WEEKEND AFTER THEY JUST WORKED

26:53FIVE DAYS.

26:54I JUST ASK THAT AS YOU MAKE

26:56THIS.

26:56VERY DIFFICULT.

26:57DECISION AND A VERY IMPORTANT

26:58PART OF OUR AREA TO REMEMBER

27:01THAT WE LOVE IT.

27:02WE WANTED TO KEEP IT SOMEWHAT

27:04RELATED TO WHAT IT IS.

27:05WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR CHOICES

27:06ARE VERY DIFFICULT BUT PLEASE

27:09DO NOT PUSH OUT THE LOCALS BOTH

27:11CLOSE TO THIS AREA AND ACROSS

27:13THE ENTIRE CITY BECAUSE I

27:15PROMISE YOU IT WILL AFFECT ALL

27:16OF US.

27:16THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

27:22MARTIN BRENNER AND STEYN

27:26DECIBEL.

27:37MY NAME.

27:38>> IS MARTIN BRINER.

27:38I'M A RESIDENT OF THE YACHT

27:40CLUB AREA AND HAVE BEEN SO FOR

27:4229 YEARS.

27:43I'M A MEMBER OF THE LEE COUNTY

27:45REPUBLICAN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE

27:46AND A PRECINCT COMMITTEE MAN

27:48VOTING PRECINCT 107 WHICH IS

27:51ABOUT 7000 REGISTERED VOTERS

27:53AND ALSO THE LEE COUNTY

27:55DISTRICT ONE LEAD FOR LEE GOP

27:57WHICH COMPRISES VOTING

27:59PRECINCTS 100 THROUGH 122.

28:01I'M HERE TODAY TO VOICE MY

28:03CONCERNS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OF

28:05THE CAPE CORAL YACHT CLUB PARK

28:07.

28:07UH THE YACHT CLUB NEIGHBORHOOD

28:09HAS BEEN UNDERSERVED FOR PARK

28:11SPACE SINCE THE DAMAGE CAUSED

28:13BY HURRICANE IAN.

28:14THE YACHT CLUB PARK SHOULD

28:16REMAIN ENTIRELY A CITY PARK.

28:18THE AMENITIES THAT WERE

28:20ORIGINALLY THERE WERE UNIQUE TO

28:20THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT SERVES

28:22.

28:22THE FISHING PIER SHOULD BE

28:24BUILT BACK OF SIMILAR SIZE AND

28:27USE.

28:27THE PARK SHOULD HAVE A LARGE

28:28BEACH AREA FOR THE COMMUNITY.

28:30THE PARK SHOULD HAVE A BOAT

28:32LAUNCH IS LOCATED OFF THE

28:34RIVERFRONT SO AS NOT TO BE

28:35AFFECTED BY BOAT LAUNCHING AND

28:37ROUGH WATERS THAT PLAGUED THE

28:39OLD BOAT LAUNCH.

28:40BOAT LAUNCH SHOULD HAVE AMPLE

28:42PARKING FOR BOAT TRAILERS AND

28:43TOW VEHICLES.

28:44THERE SHOULD BE A COMMUNITY

28:46POOL SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS THERE

28:48ALONG WITH A COMMUNITY CENTER

28:51SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS THERE.

28:52THERE SHOULD BE PLAYGROUNDS FOR

28:54YOUNG CHILDREN TO PLAY.

28:55THERE SHOULD BE AMPLE PARKING

28:57TO SERVE THE CITIZENS THAT USE

28:58THE PARK.

28:59THERE SHOULD BE NO TALL

29:01BUILDINGS THAT BLOCK THE VIEW

29:01OF THE RIVER.

29:02THERE SHOULD BE NO COMMERCIAL

29:04DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK THAT

29:05BRINGS INCREASED TRAFFIC TO

29:08LIMITED ROADWAYS.

29:08LEADING TO THE YACHT CLUB IS

29:10BASICALLY EVERY PERSON THAT

29:12GOES DOWN THERE HAS TO GO

29:15THROUGH CAPE CORAL PARKWAY,

29:17CORONADO OR ELDORADO UNLESS

29:20THEY ALREADY LIVE DOWN THERE.

29:22THOSE THOSE ROADS ARE ALREADY

29:24CONGESTED.

29:24THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE ALCOHOL

29:26SERVICE AT ANY OF THESE PARKS.

29:29FOOD CAN BE SERVICE COULD BE

29:31BRINGING YOUR OWN OR PERHAPS A

29:33LIMITED AMOUNT OF FOOD TRUCKS

29:34AND ANYTHING ELSE DONE AT THE

29:35PARK CREATES AN INCREASE IN

29:37TRAFFIC CONGESTION, LOSS OF

29:39QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE

29:41SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD

29:42INCLUDING THE ALREADY OVER

29:43CONGESTED CAPE CORAL PARKWAY.

29:46THE COMMERCIAL AMENITIES

29:48PROPOSED FOR THE YACHT CLUB ARE

29:50ALREADY AVAILABLE ON NEARBY

29:52COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ALONG CAPE

29:54CORAL PARKWAY.

29:55COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE

29:56YACHT CLUB IS NOT WANTED BY THE

29:58NEIGHBORHOOD.

29:58ALMOST EVERY COMMUNITY ALONG

30:00THE COASTLINE OF FLORIDA HAS UM

30:03COMMERCIALIZED PARK SPACE ALONG

30:05THE WATER AND WE SHOULD TO.

30:09THANK YOU.

30:22HELLO.

30:23>> MY NAME IS STEYN.

30:24UH, BEEN COMING TO THE MEETINGS

30:25HAVE BEEN A CAPE CORAL YACHT

30:26CLUB RESIDENT FOR TEN PLUS

30:29YEARS.

30:29UH, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH ALL THE

30:30PEOPLE THAT CAME IN FRONT OF

30:32THE PODIUM.

30:33THEY'RE VERY LEERY ABOUT THIS

30:35P3 PROPOSAL, AS AM I.

30:37UM, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

30:39IT'S BEEN VACANT TOO LONG.

30:41WE'RE NEGLECTED AS THE PREVIOUS

30:44GENTLEMAN HAS SAID.

30:46UM, WE NEED TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC

30:48ACCESS.

30:48THAT IS A PRIORITY NUMBER ONE.

30:50YOU CAN'T HAVE THESE, YOU KNOW

30:51,AND I MEAN, I FEEL FOR YOU

30:54GUYS ARE IN A TIGHT SPOT.

30:55UH, THE CITY HAD THIS GRANDIOSE

30:58PLAN OF 200 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR

31:00PLAN AND THAT WAS POOH POOHED.

31:01AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR P3

31:03AND NOW THIS P3 IS OR THESE P3

31:06PROPOSALS ARE NOT EXACTLY WHAT

31:08WE WANT.

31:09SO YOU GUYS ARE IN A VERY TOUGH

31:11SPOT OF WHAT TO DO AND WHAT TO

31:13DO NEXT.

31:14I DON'T ENVY YOU OR I DON'T

31:15ENVY YOUR POSITIONS RIGHT NOW.

31:18BUT PARAMOUNT IS KEEP IT PUBLIC

31:21ACCESS WHEN YOU GREEN IS DOWN

31:23THERE.

31:23WE NEED TO HAVE.

31:24UM.

31:25>> A COMMUNITY CENTER.

31:27UH, TENNIS COURTS, PICKLEBALL.

31:28COURTS, A POOL.

31:30UH.

31:31>> RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES.

31:33WE DON'T HAVE THAT DOWN THERE.

31:35UM, AND THEN AGAIN WITH THE

31:36TRAFFIC, UH, THERE'S INCREASED

31:38TRAFFIC I LIVE THERE.

31:39UM, I THINK IF WAS GOING TO GET

31:42DEVELOPED OR THE BIMINI EAST

31:43DEVELOPMENT PRIORITY NEEDS TO A

31:44TOP TIER PRIORITY WOULD

31:46PROBABLY NEED TO ADD A

31:47ROUNDABOUT OR TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT

31:48CORONADO AND EL DORADO.

31:49I'VE SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE BLOW

31:51RIGHT THROUGH STOP SIGNS THERE.

31:52IT DON'T MATTER IF YOU INCREASE

31:54POLICE PRESENCE OR HAVE A COP

31:55THERE THEY'RE STILL GOING TO

31:56BLOW RIGHT THROUGH IT.

31:57SO UH, TO EASE SOME OF THE

31:59TRAFFIC CONCERNS I WOULD

32:00SUGGEST ADDING A TRAFFIC

32:01CIRCLE.

32:02HAVE THE DEVELOPER AT BIMINI

32:04EAST.

32:05UM, OR.

32:06MAYBE HAVE IT CONDITIONAL AS

32:08PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT

32:09AGREEMENT TO INSERT A TRAFFIC

32:11CIRCLE AT, UH, EL DORADO AND

32:14CORONADO.

32:15BUT GETTING BACK TO THE YACHT

32:17CLUB.

32:17UH, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

32:18WE'RE WAITING TOO LONG.

32:20UH, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN MAKE

32:21A DECISION, BUT THIS P3 THE WAY

32:23IT'S PRESENTED IS NOT IDEAL.

32:25SO GOOD LUCK GUYS.

32:30DON CAR DCA.

32:41GOOD MORNING.

32:42UM.

32:43>> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE

32:45ACTUALLY, UM, COME TO A MEETING

32:49AND SPOKE AND SO I'M A LITTLE

32:51NERVOUS ABOUT THIS, BUT, UM,

32:53I'M A BIG NO FOR THIS PROPOSAL

32:56.

32:56DID YOU STATE YOUR NAME?

32:57DON CARNATION.

32:58THANK YOU.

32:58>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

33:00UM, IN FIVE DAYS IT WILL BE

33:03FOUR YEARS SINCE IAN SLAMMED

33:05THIS CITY AND VERY LITTLE HAS

33:09BEEN DONE TO THE YACHT CLUB

33:11AREA.

33:12YOU'VE MADE IT SAFE TO SIT ON

33:14THE BEACH TO GO IN THE WATER

33:17AND, UH, SMALL BATHROOM,

33:20PORTABLE PORTABLE BATHROOM AND

33:23SOME PARKING.

33:24THAT'S ALL THAT'S BEEN DONE IN

33:27FOUR YEARS.

33:28BUT YET YOU PUT THE SLIP AWAY

33:31TOGETHER IN A MATTER OF I DON'T

33:34KNOW, A YEAR TO FLAG.

33:36ALL THIS.

33:37STUFF THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THIS

33:38CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY PLACE

33:43HAS BEEN COMPLETELY OR ALMOST

33:45COMPLETELY IGNORED AND I DON'T

33:49UNDERSTAND THAT.

33:49AND GETTING THIS PROPOSAL IS OR

33:54THESE TWO PROPOSALS UNSOLICITED

33:56AT A TIME AFTER YOU HAD

33:58REQUESTED A PROPOSAL AND

34:00NOTHING WAS RECEIVED JUST A

34:02LITTLE SQUIRRELY IN MY OPINION

34:05BUT OOPS.

34:06UM SO BASICALLY I'M GOING TO

34:09SAY NO TO A HOTEL TO UH OLYMPIC

34:12SIZE POOL AND AGAIN REITERATING

34:15WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HERE HAS

34:16SAID THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY AS

34:20LARGE AS IT IS, IT'S STILL A

34:21SMALL TOWN FEEL COMMUNITY.

34:23WE DON'T NEED THIS BIG

34:26MONSTROSITY BRINGING IN PEOPLE

34:28THAT ARE GOING TO ENJOY IT BUT

34:30NOT FOR US AND I KNOW IT'S

34:33GOING TO BRING YOU MONEY.

34:35THAT'S THE BIG FOCUS HERE.

34:37BUT THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY.

34:41FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BRING IN

34:43MONEY SOMEPLACE ELSE.

34:45OR MODIFY YOUR SPENDING.

34:47BUT THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO

34:49IT.

34:50THIS IS A BIG SLAP IN THE FACE

34:51TO THE CITIZENS OF CAPE CORAL.

34:55AND I MOVED HERE SOLELY BECAUSE

34:58OF THIS SMALL TOWN FEEL.

35:00I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR THREE

35:01YEARS AND I LOVE IT.

35:05DON'T DO THIS TO US.

35:07PLEASE DON'T.

35:10AND I KNOW THE HOTEL PEOPLE ARE

35:12HERE BUT PLEASE LISTEN TO US.

35:15THANK YOU.

35:17THANK YOU.

35:17>> YOUR HONOR, THAT'S THE LAST

35:20OF THE COMMENT CARDS RECEIVED.

35:23OKAY.

35:24>> UH, CITIZENS INPUT IS NOW

35:26CLOSED.

35:26OPEN UP FOR ANY COUNCIL

35:28DISCUSSION ON CITIZENS INPUT.

35:33SEEING THEIR LIGHTS ON.

35:34UM, FIRST I'D JUST LIKE TO

35:35THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT

35:36AND SPEAKING.

35:37UH, WE'LL GET TO THIS POINT IN

35:40THE AGENDA WHERE WE'LL HAVE

35:42HAVE A DIALOG AND UH, BE ABLE

35:44TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE

35:46CONCERNS.

35:46FOR ME PERSONALLY, I'LL WAIT TO

35:48MAKE MY COMMENTS.

35:49UH, AND I'M SURE MOST OF MY

35:50COLLEAGUES ARE THE SAME WAY.

35:52WE'LL WAIT AND MAKE THEIR

35:53COMMENTS COMMENTS DURING THAT

35:55PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

35:57OKAY.

35:57WE'LL MOVE ON TO UH ITEM SIX IS

36:00DISCUSSION SIX A IS THE SOUTH

36:02CAPE COMMUNITY CENTER

36:04PRESENTATION AND I WILL TURN IT

36:06OVER TO STAFF.

36:09THANK YOU MAYOR.

36:10UH, THIS IS THE NEXT ITEM IN A

36:12SERIES OF PRESENTATIONS ON

36:14QUALITY OF LIFE SERVICES

36:16PROVIDED BY OUR PARKS AND REC

36:17DEPARTMENT.

36:18UM, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS

36:20THROUGHOUT THE.

36:21ENTIRE YEAR OF WHAT OUR

36:22FACILITIES ARE, HOW MUCH

36:23REVENUE THEY GENERATE, HOW MUCH

36:25TAXES, UH, SUPPORT THE

36:26PROGRAMS, HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY

36:29SERVE AND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED

36:30.

36:30SO WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER

36:32TO MARK.

36:32THANK YOU.

36:33GOOD MORNING.

36:34AND HERE'S MARK CAGLE AND.

36:36>> I.

36:36APPRECIATE THE.

36:37>> TIME TO.

36:37UH, LET ME EXPLAIN THE.

36:38SOUTH CAPE COMMUNITY CENTER

36:39THIS MORNING.

36:40UH, THE SO THIS IS A 17,400

36:43SQUARE FOOT FACILITY THAT WAS

36:44THROUGH A LEASE WITH FAITH

36:45PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH.

36:46UH, IT'S THREE YEAR LEASE AND

36:48IT HAS A FULL BASKETBALL COURT

36:50,A VENUE CAPACITY OF 400,

36:52PARKING FOR 240 VEHICLES.

36:53AND IT'S A GREAT INDOOR HUB FOR

36:55SPORTS, FITNESS FAMILY PROGRAMS

36:58AND ACTIVITIES TAILORED FOR

36:59ACTIVE ADULTS AND CHILDREN.

37:02SO THE SOUTH COMMUNITY CENTER

37:03EXPENSE AND REVENUE INCREASE TO

37:05EXPAND OUR SUMMER CAMP.

37:07UH, SO WE EXPANDED AND DOUBLED

37:09OUR SUMMER CAMP AS A NEED IN

37:11THE COMMUNITY.

37:11UH, AND THIS WAS A CAPACITY FOR

37:15EIGHT FOUR WEEKS THIS PAST

37:16SUMMER WAS VERY WELL DONE.

37:17UH.

37:18>> OUR COST RECOVERY ROSE FROM

37:2024 TO 30% AS A RESULT OF THAT.

37:22UH, WITH AN INCREASE OF PROGRAM

37:23FOR ALL AGES AND WE HAVE, UH,

37:26MANY INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS

37:28INCLUDING A VETERANS OUTREACH

37:30PROGRAM THAT UH, MEETS MONTHLY

37:31.

37:31UH, THAT WOULD BE UH, TALKED

37:35ABOUT LATER IN THE

37:36PRESENTATION.

37:36WE HAVE A FULL TIME SUPERVISOR

37:38THAT'S MYSELF AND UH, IT'S

37:40SPLIT BETWEEN UH, THE SOUTH

37:42CAPE AND THE PARK WORKING

37:44PROGRAM, PARK RANGERS AND ALSO

37:46CUSTOMER SERVICE AT SPLIT.

37:47WE HAVE A FULL TIME RECREATION

37:48SPECIALIST LIKE TO RECOGNIZE,

37:50UH, ERIC DION.

37:51HE'S HERE AND, UH, HE'S DONE

37:53ABSOLUTELY AMAZING JOB WITH THE

37:55,UH, COMMUNITY CENTER.

37:55I JUST CANNOT APPRECIATE HIM

37:57ENOUGH ON MY STAFF.

37:58UH, WE HAVE A FULL TIME

38:00RECREATION SPECIALISTS AND, UH,

38:01WE HAVE CONTRACT PERSONNEL AS

38:02WELL.

38:06THE CENTER IS A PROGRAM WHICH

38:09IS DISCRETIONARY FOR, UH,

38:10QUALITY OF LIFE SERVICE.

38:12IT'S NOT REQUIRED BY FEDERAL

38:13LAW STATE STATUTE.

38:14AND IT'S SOMETHING UNIQUE TO

38:15CAPE CORAL PROVIDES TO FOR OUR

38:17CITIZENS, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK

38:18MAKES, UH, CAPE CORAL SUCH A

38:19GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

38:21SO OUR HUB IS A WELCOME FOR

38:24CITY FACILITY OFFERING DIVERSE

38:26PROGRAMS AND FOR ALL AGES AND

38:28ALL SKILL LEVELS.

38:29WHETHER YOU'RE LOOKING TO STAY

38:31ACTIVE, LEARN A NEW SKILL OR

38:32CONNECT WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.

38:34UH, WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR.

38:35EVERYONE A CORE PROGRAMS.

38:37>> A YOUTH SPORTS BUILDING,

38:38TEAMWORK, OUR GROUP FITNESS

38:40CLASSES, HIGH ENERGY.

38:41WE HAVE ADULT TRAINING,

38:43PERSONALIZED AND STRUCTURED

38:43FITNESS CENTERS PROGRAMS.

38:45UH SENIOR WELLNESS.

38:47UH, SO WE HAVE SOCIAL

38:49ACTIVITIES TAILORED FOR OLDER

38:50ADULTS, COMMUNITY EVENTS,

38:52SOCIAL GATHERINGS AND

38:54CELEBRATIONS AND WORKSHOPS FOR

38:55THE WHOLE FAMILY AND OF COURSE

38:56OUR SUMMER CAMP.

38:57I SPOKE ABOUT UH PREVIOUSLY FOR

38:59OUR FULL DAY.

39:00UH.

39:00>> CARE FOR OUR CHILDREN.

39:02UH, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR

39:04OUR PARENTS.

39:04WORKING PARENTS.

39:06OUR FITNESS CLASSES ARE MOSTLY

39:08A CAPACITY THE EXTREMELY

39:10POPULAR AROUND THE FACILITY.

39:12UH, IT PROVIDES INCLUSIVE

39:14OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, SUPPORT

39:15PHYSICAL WELLNESS, CONFIDENCE,

39:18SOCIAL ENGAGEMENT AND A SAFE

39:19AND WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT.

39:21IT WORKS OFFER A VARIETY OF

39:23CLASSES TAILORED TO ALL KINDS

39:24OF FITNESS LEVELS.

39:25UH, SOME OF THESE ARE BALANCE

39:27AND STRENGTH WITH, UH IMPROVE

39:29STABILITY WHICH IS IMPORTANT.

39:31UH, WE HAVE OUR UH YOGA FOR

39:33BODY THROUGH TARGET UH, POSES,

39:35BREATHING EXERCISES, OUR CARDIO

39:38CONDITIONING TO BOOST OUR HEART

39:39HEALTH AND STAMINA CIRCUIT

39:41TRAINING MOVE THROUGH TIME

39:43STATIONS, COMBINE STRENGTH AND

39:44CARDIO.

39:45UH, TARGET AND WE HAVE LINE

39:47DANCING.

39:47UH, VERY POPULAR.

39:48UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL CLASSES OF

39:50THAT, UH, DOING CHOREOGRAPHY

39:53AND UH, THE BEST PART IS OUR

39:55ATHLETIC PROGRAMS.

39:56SO THE PROGRAMS UH, BECAUSE WE

39:59HAVE A FULL SIZE GYM BECAUSE,

40:00UH, GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR

40:02PROGRAMS FOR.

40:03>> UH.

40:03BOTH ADULTS AND CHILDREN AND WE

40:06HAVE MULTIPLE SPORTS.

40:07UH, THE SOCCER TEAM IS THE

40:09BASKETBALL PICKLEBALL, WHICH

40:10I'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE

40:12BIT LATER.

40:12UH, AND OUR VOLLEYBALL THESE,

40:14UH, RUN, UH, SIX DAYS A WEEK.

40:17UH, SO THEY'RE, UH, ALMOST JUST

40:18ABOUT EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

40:19UH, THEY'RE THERE DURING THE

40:20DAY AND IT HELPS OUR, UH OUR

40:23ADULTS IN OUR CHILDREN STAY

40:24ACTIVE.

40:26WE HAVE, UH, MANY SPECIAL

40:27EVENTS.

40:28UH, WE OFFER SPECIAL EVENTS

40:30THROUGH A YEAR THAT BRING THE

40:32COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO

40:33RECREATION ENTERTAINMENT

40:35FAMILY-FRIENDLY ACTIVITIES AND,

40:36UH, THEY HAVE KEY BENEFITS THAT

40:38OF, UH, OUR COMMUNITY FORCES

40:41SOCIAL CONNECTIONS.

40:42IT'S GOOD TO CREATE A WELCOMING

40:43HUB AND SOME OF OUR DIVERSE

40:45LINEUP IS OUR BINGO NIGHT WHICH

40:47IS UP AND VERY POPULAR.

40:48WE JUST HAD ONE UH, LAST

40:49WEEKEND.

40:50UH, EVEN THIS FALL, YOU KNOW,

40:51IT'S FUN.

40:52IT'S A LOT OF COMPETITION.

40:53WE HAVE A CAR SHOWS, HEALTH

40:54FAIRS.

40:55WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP

40:56WITH LEE HEALTH CAPE CORAL

40:58HOSPITAL.

40:58THEY DO A LOT OF PROGRAMS IN

41:00THE SOUTH CAPE COMMUNITY CENTER

41:02FOR FREE SCREENINGS.

41:03UH, LOCAL HEALTH RESOURCES.

41:05UH, WE HAVE FACILITY RENTALS.

41:07UH, WE HAVE UH, PRIVATE

41:09CELEBRATIONS.

41:10WE HAD A FEW THIS PAST WEEKEND

41:11THAT WENT VERY WELL AND OF

41:13COURSE MILESTONE EVENTS.

41:16ARE OPEN.

41:17PICKLEBALL IS VERY POPULAR WITH

41:18THE INDOOR.

41:19WE HAVE FOUR UH, COURTS THAT

41:21ARE INDOOR CLIMATE CONTROLLED

41:24AND UH IT'S UH YOU KNOW, IT'S A

41:26FAST GROWING SPORT AND PROVIDES

41:28AN ACCESSIBLE HIGH ENERGY

41:30ENVIRONMENT TO FORCES HEALTH

41:32HAPPINESS CONNECTION AND IT

41:34WELCOMES EVERYONE DESIGNED FOR

41:35ALL PLAYERS.

41:36IT FORCES SPORTSMANSHIP, BUILDS

41:38CLUB CONNECTIONS, ACCESS TO

41:40SOCIAL CAPITAL IS HIGHLY

41:41ACCESSIBLE SO IT'S EASY TO

41:43LEARN LOW IMPACT GAME UH

41:45YEAR-ROUND ENGAGEMENT AND UH SO

41:47FAR JUST FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR

41:49WHICH IS UH FOR LAST OCTOBER IS

41:51UH 7200 USERS 7200 UH PEOPLE

41:55HAVE USED THAT PICKLEBALL.

41:59THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE

42:00PROGRAMS IS THE WILL BE ABLE TO

42:02START AT THE YOUTH CENTER

42:02SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

42:03UH, THIS IS VERY UNIQUE TO CAPE

42:05CORAL IS ONE OF THE FIRST UH,

42:07UH, MOBILE RECREATION CENTERS

42:09IN THE ENTIRE STATE.

42:11UH, AND I ACTUALLY WON A

42:13INNOVATIVE PROGRAM THROUGH THE

42:14FLORIDA RECREATION AND PARK

42:16ASSOCIATION AND IT'S ALSO SOLAR

42:18POWERED.

42:18SO IT'S A IT'S A VERY UNIQUE,

42:19UH, OPPORTUNITY.

42:20AND WHAT IT DOES IT BRINGS

42:23ACTIVITIES AND UH,

42:25OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE

42:26CITY FOR FOR AREAS THAT UH,

42:29DON'T HAVE IT SO WE CAN ADD TO

42:31WHAT'S ALREADY THERE WITH UH

42:33GAMES, SPORTS CREATED

42:35ACTIVITIES IT'S ACCESSIBLE

42:36RECREATION.

42:37IT'S FREE TO EVERYBODY WHO

42:39ATTENDS AND IT'S BREAKING.

42:41DOWN BARRIERS AND IT ALLOWS, UH

42:42,TOP TIER EQUIPMENT AND

42:43STRUCTURED FUN.

42:45UH.

42:45>> IT'S A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES

42:47CAN GATHER AND WE HAVE A

42:48CALENDAR AND IT GOES.

42:49OUT, UH.

42:50SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK AND UH,

42:52WEEKENDS OUR SUMMER CAMP THIS

42:55PAST YEAR WE HAD UH WE STARTED

42:57WITH 30 OUR FIRST YEAR THEN WE

42:59DOUBLED IT TO 60.

43:00UH, SO WE HAD 60 CHILDREN FOR

43:02EIGHT WEEKS IN OUR PROGRAM THAT

43:03WAS UH RUN BY EARLIER WAS

43:06TALKING ABOUT ERIC AND JUST

43:07AGAIN HE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB

43:08THIS SUMMER.

43:09IT'S ONE OF THE BEST, UH,

43:10SUMMER CAMPS I'VE SEEN.

43:11I'VE SEEN 20 OF UH, THE YOUTH

43:14ENGAGED IN, UH, A LOT OF ACTION

43:16PACKED SPORTS.

43:17UH, IT WAS A SPORTS CAMP AND

43:19THEY, UH THEY REALLY HAD A

43:20GREAT TIME AND UH, WE OF COURSE

43:22WILL UH, DO THAT AGAIN NEXT

43:24YEAR WITH SOME AMAZING

43:28PARTNERSHIPS.

43:28LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE

43:29HAVE LEE HEALTH, UH, CAPE CORAL

43:31HOSPITAL.

43:32UH, THEY HOST A COMPREHENSIVE

43:35COMMUNITY HEALTH FAIR

43:37MULTI-MONTH UH, LEE WELLNESS UH

43:38,CENTER.

43:39SO THEY ACTUALLY SEND SOMEONE

43:40TO THE SOUTH COMMUNITY CENTER

43:43AND THEY DO THESE PROGRAMS

43:44COMPLETELY FREE OPEN TO THE

43:46OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

43:46UH, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY HEROES

43:49VETERANS OUTREACH PROGRAM.

43:50THIS IS A BRAND NEW PROGRAM

43:52THAT, UH, ERIC STARTED AND IT'S

43:54A COMMUNITY FOCUSED PROGRAM

43:55DEDICATED TO VETERANS AND THEIR

43:57SPOUSES.

43:57AS A VETERAN MYSELF, I

43:59ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE THE

44:00SERVICE.

44:01AND UH, IT'S A TRUSTED REGIONAL

44:03ORGANIZATION AND THEY PROVIDE

44:04CRITICAL GUIDANCE ON VA

44:06BENEFITS, HEALTH CARE, HOME

44:08CARE, ESSENTIAL SUPPORT

44:09SERVICES.

44:09AND WE DO THIS EVERY MONTH.

44:11>> AT THE CENTER.

44:12WE WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE

44:14ANIMAL SHELTER KIDS MY UH

44:16MATTER MEANINGFUL GROUP

44:18DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR CHILDREN

44:19AND UH OF COURSE THE CAPE CORAL

44:21LIBRARY.

44:22WE'VE HAD UH, GREAT

44:24RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM FOR MANY

44:25YEARS AND THEY PROVIDE FREE

44:26SUMMER READING PROGRAM AND THEY

44:28ALSO GIVE A FREE BOOK TO EVERY

44:29CHILD.

44:32THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING UH,

44:34THIS SUMMER BREAK FEEDING

44:35LOCATION IS JUST KEEPS

44:37EXPANDING AND EXPANDING AND IT

44:38JUST COULDN'T COME TO A BETTER

44:39TIME.

44:40SO SOUTH CAPE COMMUNITY CENTER

44:42PARTNERS CLOSELY WITH THE LEE

44:43COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.

44:45UH, AND WE ALIGN THE FORMAL BE

44:47BILL TO UH, GENERATE

44:50TRADITIONAL FEEDING SITES.

44:51SO THIS IS THROUGH THE SUMMER

44:52WHEN UH CHILDREN DON'T HAVE THE

44:54OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE MEALS AT

44:56SCHOOL.

44:56THEY COME TO OUR CAMPS AND THEY

44:58COME TO OUR PARKS AND WITH THE

45:00HELP OF THE FUND WILL BE A

45:02WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY

45:03TRADITIONAL SITES ARE 14,932

45:06BALES THIS PAST SUMMER.

45:07UH IN ADDITION TO THAT THIS IS

45:09ANOTHER ADDITION THAT WE ADDED

45:11THIS PAST YEAR WAS THE USA.

45:14THE USDA APPROVED A UH SEVEN

45:16DAY MEAL KIT FOR UH PARENTS WHO

45:17COULD NOT MAKE THOSE UH, DAILY

45:19UH, MEAL SITES.

45:22AND THOSE.

45:22>> WERE 3078 UH MEALS AND FOR

45:26TOTAL 43,000 MEALS TO SERVE

45:29THIS PAST SUMMER NO COST TO THE

45:31PEOPLE.

45:32THAT'S, UH, RECREATION THROUGH

45:33SOUTH CAPE PLUS THE, UH,

45:35FORMULA.

45:36SO IT WAS JUST A REALLY AMAZING

45:37PROGRAM.

45:40SO THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SOUTH

45:42CAPE IS SERVES AS A VITAL

45:43ANCHOR FOR THE CAPE CORAL,

45:45ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTH

45:46DISTRICT.

45:47UH, WE DELIVER A TARGETED HIGH

45:48IMPACT PROGRAM ACROSS FIVE

45:51PILLARS SENIOR ENGAGEMENT,

45:53COMBAT, SOCIAL ISOLATION,

45:55HEALTH AND WELLNESS SUSTAINED

45:56PHYSICAL AND MENTAL VITALITY

45:58THROUGH FITNESS, NUTRITION AND

45:59WELLNESS YOUTH PROGRAMS AND

46:01DEVELOPMENT DRIVES POSITIVE

46:03YOUTH DEVELOPMENT VIA SUMMER

46:04CAMPS, EDUCATION PROGRAMS.

46:06AND THE.

46:07>> COMMUNITY HUBS ANCHORS UH

46:09KEY PILLARS OF WELCOMING,

46:10VIBRANT.

46:10OPEN SPACE WHERE ALL AGES CAN

46:13ENJOY IT AND UH WE HAVE

46:15INCLUSIVE IMPACT POWER THE

46:17DIVERSION UH, THE DIVERSE

46:20DEMOGRAPHIC OF LOCAL RESIDENTS

46:21WHILE MAINTAINING UNWAVERING.

46:23FOCUS AND OF OUR UH,

46:25VULNERABILITIES OF SENIOR

46:26NEIGHBORS.

46:27AND I.

46:28APPRECIATE IT.

46:29>> AND THAT CONCLUDES THE

46:30PRESENTATION.

46:33THANK YOU.

46:34>> I'LL OPEN UP FOR COUNCIL

46:35DISCUSSION.

46:35UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS THANK YOU.

46:37THANK YOU.

46:38>> MAYOR.

46:39UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UH,

46:41PUBLICLY UH, THANK FAITH

46:42PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, UH.

46:44>> AT THE, UH.

46:46AFTERMATH OF.

46:47>> HURRICANE IAN, UH, IN UH,

46:50EARLY 2023, UH, MANY CITIZENS

46:53WERE, UH, COMING TO ME AND AND

46:56UH, SAYING WHAT ARE WE GOING TO

46:57DO NOW?

46:57WE LOST THE ROTINI CENTER.

46:59WE NEEDED A WOOD POWERED BRIDGE

47:01CLUB HAS NO PLACE TO GO.

47:03WE HAVE NO PLACE FOR OUR FOR

47:04OUR ACTIVITIES.

47:06UM AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER, UH,

47:09IN EFFORTS TO HELP THE

47:10COMMUNITY JUST IN OVERALL

47:12HURRICANE RECOVERY FAITH

47:14PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH UH, CAME

47:16AND SAID HEY, IF THERE'S

47:17ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP THE

47:19COMMUNITY, WE'D LIKE TO PLAY A

47:20BIGGER ROLE IN SERVING THE

47:22COMMUNITY.

47:23AND SO UM UH, I HELPED PUT THE

47:26TWO OF THEM TOGETHER, UH, FAITH

47:28COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY.

47:30UH, AND NEVER IN MY WILDEST

47:33DREAMS WOULD I HAVE IMAGINED

47:34THAT IT'S TURNED INTO WHAT IT

47:35HAS AND THE WAY THAT FAITH

47:38PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH HAS.

47:39UM.

47:39>> YOU KNOW, DISPLAYED THE

47:41COMMUNITY SERVING COMMUNITY.

47:43UH.

47:44.

47:44UH, ASPECT OF BEING A PART OF

47:47OUR CITY.

47:47SO, UM, HATS OFF AND AND A

47:50GREAT DEAL OF THANKS TO FAITH

47:51PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, UH, FOR

47:53REACHING OUT AND OFFERING TO TO

47:55ASSIST UH, AND AND PROBABLY

47:58THEY NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD

47:59BECOME WHAT IT'S BECOME TODAY.

48:00SO THANK YOU FOR THE THE JOB

48:02THAT, UH, PARKS AND REC HAS

48:03DONE AND THAT UH, THAT THE CITY

48:05AND FAITH PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH

48:07HAS, UH, PUT TOGETHER TO SERVE

48:09OUR CITIZENS.

48:09THANK YOU SIR.

48:11OKAY.

48:12>> SEEING NO OTHER LATER ON

48:13THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, THE

48:14PRESIDENT UM, COUNCIL MEMBER

48:16LONG.

48:16YEAH.

48:17JUST REAL.

48:17QUICKLY I.

48:18>> UM.

48:18>> JUST CAME IN FRONT OF MY

48:19MIND WHEN.

48:19WE HAD, UH.

48:20COUNCIL WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE

48:21DISCUSSION.

48:21COULD SOMEONE.

48:21GIVE ME.

48:22>> THE INFORMATION ON WHAT WE

48:23PAY A MONTHLY AND RENT TO, UH.

48:25FAITH PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH FOR.

48:27>> THE USE OF THAT FACILITY?

48:28IT'S $18,000 18,000 A MONTH.

48:30YES, SIR.

48:30THANK YOU SIR.

48:34COUNCIL MEMBER COULD DO.

48:35THANK YOU MAYOR ON PAGE TWO I

48:37WAS JUST WONDERING WHY THE

48:39INCREASE IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT

48:40INCREASE.

48:44THE INCREASE WAS, UH, MOSTLY

48:45FROM SUMMER CAMP BECAUSE.

48:47>> UH, THERE'S.

48:47UH THERE'S.

48:48A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.

48:50FOR SUMMER CAMP.

48:51UH, SO, UH, MOST OF OUR WHICH

48:53YOU SAID I CAME ACTUALLY JUST

48:55TWO MINUTES YOUTH CENTER AND

48:57UH, IT WAS ALWAYS SOLD OUT

48:58AGAIN LIKE IT WAS THIS YEAR AND

49:00WE LOST OUR CHARTER SCHOOL, SO,

49:01UH, WE DON'T ALWAYS HOLD OUR

49:02CHARTER SCHOOL AFTERSCHOOL

49:03PROGRAM, SO THERE'S A.

49:04>> NEED FOR SUMMER CAMP.

49:05SO WE EXPANDED IT, UH, AT THE

49:07SOUTH CAPE.

49:08COMMUNITY CENTER.

49:09UH, AND THEN WE MAY EVEN EXPAND

49:11IT AGAIN IF NEEDED.

49:12UH, BUT THE JUST THE REVENUE

49:14THAT'S GENERATED OFFSETS THE,

49:17UH, EXPENSE.

49:18UH, THERE'S STILL SOME SUBCLASS

49:20AREAS THAT ARE SUBSIDIZED.

49:21BUT THERE.

49:22>> IS REVENUE ATTACHED TO THAT

49:23EXPENSE AS WELL.

49:24SO IT MAINTAINS OUR, UH,

49:26SUBSIDY LEVEL.

49:27THANK YOU.

49:28AND THE FEEDING LOCATIONS IS

49:31THAT, UH, THE FOOD THAT COMES

49:32FROM THE LEE COUNTY SCHOOL

49:33DISTRICT?

49:34IT IS.

49:35AND ARE WE STAFFING THESE

49:36LOCATIONS?

49:37WE DO.

49:38>> NOT UH WE, UH, BRING THE

49:40FUND WILL BE ABLE TO ENHANCE IT

49:42BUT THEY UH THEY COMPLETELY RUN

49:43THOSE PROGRAMS.

49:44>> THROUGH THE RUNS.

49:45>> THE FUND MOBILE.

49:46UH, WE DO UH, SOUTH CAPE

49:49COMMUNITY CENTER.

49:49AND UH, PARK RANGERS UH WE HAVE

49:51A.

49:52PERSON THAT RUNS.

49:52THAT THEY.

49:53>> GO.

49:53OUT UH SEVERAL TIMES A.

49:54WEEK AND.

49:55UH TO.

49:56>> RUN THAT PROGRAM.

49:57OKAY.

49:58>> THANK CONTRACT PERSON.

49:59THANK YOU.

50:02OKAY.

50:02>> THANK YOU AGAIN.

50:03UH SEE ANOTHER LATER ON WE'LL

50:05MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC OF

50:06DISCUSSION.

50:07WHICH IS THE CAPE CORAL YACHT

50:09CLUB UNSOLICITED P3 PROPOSALS

50:11AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO

50:13STAFF.

50:17THANK YOU MAYOR.

50:18IN A FEW MINUTES WE'LL GO OVER

50:19THE PRESENTATION.

50:21I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE

50:23ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP

50:24DURING UM CITIZENS INPUT.

50:26SO AS IT RELATES TO AN

50:29UNSOLICITED P3 UM AS THE

50:31COUNCIL KNOWS, WE INITIALLY PUT

50:33OUT AN RFI, A REQUEST FOR

50:35INFORMATION AND WHAT WE WERE

50:37SEEKING AT THAT TIME WAS WHAT

50:38WOULD IT TAKE IN ORDER TO

50:41OFFLOAD SOME OF THE DEBT THAT

50:43WAS GOING TO HAVE TO BE BORNE

50:44IN ORDER TO DELIVER THE

50:48AMENITIES AND PROGRAMS THAT OUR

50:50COMMUNITY HAVE REQUESTED

50:51THROUGH PARKS AND REC?

50:53UM MASTER PLAN AND OUR CITIZENS

50:57AND UH EVENTS THAT WE HELD VERY

51:01EARLY ON ON THE MASTER PLAN

51:02PROGRAMING FOR THE YACHT CLUB.

51:04I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU ATTENDED

51:06THOSE SOME OF THE PAST COUNCIL

51:08COUNCIL ATTENDED THOSE.

51:09I KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT

51:10ARE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT

51:11ATTENDED THOSE UM I KNOW WE

51:14HEARD TODAY THAT UM A RESORT IS

51:17NOT WHAT WAS ASKED FOR.

51:19UM I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN.

51:21OUR OUTPUT SESSIONS ON THE

51:24YACHT CLUB WHAT WAS ASKED FOR

51:26WAS A RESORT LIKE ATMOSPHERE.

51:29SO IT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO

51:31SEE WHEN WE PUT OUT THE RFI AND

51:33WE GOT NO RESPONSES.

51:35THAT WAS A SIGNAL TO THE MARKET

51:37THAT WE WERE INTERESTED IN

51:38LOOKING FOR WHAT WOULD IT TAKE

51:40AND ULTIMATELY WHAT WE FOUND

51:42OUT THROUGH TWO UNSOLICITED

51:44THREES IS IT WOULD TAKE A

51:46RESORT SOME OF THE CONCERNS

51:48THAT WOULD UH THAT WERE CONCERN

51:50EXPRESSED THIS MORNING MORESO

51:53RELATE TO THINGS THAT WE WOULD

51:55END UP NEGOTIATING AND MAKING

51:57SURE DID NOT HAPPEN.

51:58SO THE CONCERNS AND THE FEAR

52:00ABOUT LOSING THE BEACH I CAN

52:03TELL YOU IN ALL THE DISCUSSIONS

52:04WE HAD EVEN IN THE RFI

52:08DISCUSSIONS IT WAS ABSOLUTELY

52:10KNOWN AND A REQUIREMENT THAT

52:12THE BEACH REMAIN OPEN TO THE

52:14PUBLIC.

52:15IT WAS ALSO KNOWN AND DISCUSSED

52:17WITH US THAT IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE

52:19REQUIREMENT THAT THE POOL BE

52:21OPEN TO THE PUBLIC REGARDLESS

52:22OF IT WAS PART OF A RESORT OR

52:24NOT SIMILAR TO A MARGARITAVILLE

52:27POOL WHERE YOU YOU CAN GO

52:29THERE.

52:29OUR POOL WAS ALWAYS OPEN.

52:30YOU PAID AN ENTRY TO GET INTO

52:32IT.

52:32SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT

52:34WERE EXPRESSED THAT YOU KNOW IF

52:36WE ARE GIVEN DIRECTION TO MOVE

52:38FORWARD THOSE SECURITIES WOULD

52:40BE PROVIDED IN THE

52:43COMPREHENSIVE AGREEMENT THAT

52:44COME OUT OF THE NEGOTIATIONS

52:46FROM AN UNSOLICITED P3.

52:48UM.

52:53LASTLY, UH, THERE WAS A COMMENT

52:55ABOUT UH WHAT WHO DETERMINES A

52:58QUALIFYING PUBLIC PROJECT STAFF

53:00HAS NOT MADE THAT DETERMINATION

53:02.

53:02I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT SPEAKER

53:04IS GETTING THAT INFORMATION

53:05FROM ON DECEMBER 10TH, 2025,

53:09THIS CITY COUNCIL PASSED

53:11RESOLUTION THREE 8125 DEEMING

53:15THE YACHT CLUB REDEVELOPMENT

53:17PROJECT AS A QUALIFYING PUBLIC

53:19PROJECT FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE

53:22OF PASSING THAT REQUIREMENT

53:25BEFORE WE EVEN GOT AN

53:27UNSOLICITED P3 IT WAS VOTED ON

53:31UNANIMOUSLY SO THE

53:33DETERMINATION OF A QUALIFYING

53:34PUBLIC PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN

53:36MADE IN ANTICIPATION OF

53:39SOMEBODY ALONG THE WAY COMING

53:40FORWARD AND SAYING WE WOULD

53:42LIKE TO HELP YOU DEVELOP THIS

53:44PROJECT.

53:44THAT IS NOT A STAFF

53:46DETERMINATION.

53:47I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S

53:48COMING FROM AND IT'S ABSENT THE

53:49HISTORY RELATED TO THIS ENTIRE

53:51REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

53:53>> THANK YOU.

53:56THANK YOU.

53:57>> WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER

53:58TO MARK.

53:58APPRECIATE IT.

54:00UH, MAYOR.

54:01COUNCIL MEMBERS MARK MASON.

54:02ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

54:04UH, THIS.

54:04>> MORNING I'M GOING.

54:05>> TO GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION

54:07.

54:07UH, THAT.

54:08UH WE'LL GET TO COMPARE.

54:09BOTH OF.

54:10>> THESE PROPOSALS.

54:11UH.

54:12>> THAT ARE BEFORE YOU.

54:13AND AT THE END, UH, WE'RE.

54:15GOING TO.

54:16DISCUSS WHETHER WHAT WE WANT.

54:18>> TO DO WITH THEM.

54:19UH.

54:19>> BEFORE I START, I WANT TO

54:21POINT.

54:22OUT THAT.

54:22>> UH, THERE WAS A GROUP THAT

54:24ACTUALLY REVIEWED THESE UM AND

54:26DID AN ANALYSIS DID THE

54:28ANALYSIS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO

54:29SEE TODAY.

54:30UH, THE.

54:32PURPOSE OF.

54:32THIS IS NOT TO ESTABLISH A

54:34CONTRACT TODAY.

54:36UH, WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH UH, A

54:39WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY GO

54:40THROUGH WITH A SINGLE PROPOSAL,

54:43UH, WHERE WE WOULD COME BEFORE

54:45YOU WITH A 30 TO 50 YEAR UH,

54:48ANALYSIS OF UH, REVENUES AND

54:51WHAT WE'VE ALL AGREED ON, ETC.

54:53IT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF TODAY

54:55TODAY IS IS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED

54:56TWO UNSOLICITED PROPOSALS AND

54:59UH, IT'S UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL

55:01WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEM.

55:04SO AS THE CITY MANAGER POINTED

55:06OUT ON RESOLUTION UH, 381 DASH

55:0925 WAS DESIGNATED THE YACHT

55:12CLUB COMMUNITY PARK AS A

55:14QUALIFYING PROJECT PURSUANT TO

55:16FLORIDA STATUTE 255 ZERO 65

55:19THAT WAS DONE TO FACILITATE ANY

55:21PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OR

55:23P3 OPPORTUNITIES.

55:25THIS WAS APPROVED ON DECEMBER

55:2710TH, 2025.

55:32FOLLOWING THAT, UH, UNDER THE

55:33DIRECTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL

55:35WE PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR

55:37INFORMATION REGARDING THE YACHT

55:38CLUB AND UH WE HAD A DUE DATE

55:41ON JANUARY 26TH WITH THE DUE

55:43DATE OF FEBRUARY 12TH AT THE

55:45TIME WE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES.

55:48IN MARCH 2026 WE RECEIVED A

55:52UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL FOR THE

55:52DEVELOPMENT OF THE MARINA ONLY

55:54UH FROM YACHT CLUB UH

55:56DEVELOPMENT GROUP UH WITH A THE

55:58REQUIRED $25,000 PAYMENT UH AND

56:01THEN AGAIN IN MAY 2026 THE CITY

56:04RECEIVED A SECOND UH

56:06UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL FROM CM B

56:08MARINE AND YACHT CLUBS OF

56:10AMERICAS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF

56:12A MARINA, THE PARKING GARAGE

56:14HARBORMASTER BUILDING WITH AN

56:16INTENT OF UPDATING A LATER UH

56:19LATER WITH A HOTEL COMMUNITY

56:20AND CONVENTION CENTER WHICH

56:22THEY DID IN AUGUST OF THIS

56:24YEAR.

56:26FOLLOWING THE P3 STATUTE.

56:28UH, WE POSTED NOTICE OF THE

56:30RECEIPT OF THAT PROPOSAL ON

56:32JUNE 4TH AND ALLOWED FOR ANY

56:34COMPETING PROPOSALS TO COME

56:35BACK IN UH, WITH A DEADLINE OF

56:39JUNE 26TH.

56:39THE CITY DID RECEIVE A SECOND

56:42AND UPDATED PROPOSAL WITH UH

56:44FROM Y C DG AND FORCE

56:46DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE THE

56:47YACHT CLUB DEVELOPMENT GROUP

56:48AND FORCE DEVELOPMENT ON JUNE

56:5026TH WITH THE END THE ORIGINAL

56:53$25,000 PAYMENT WAS APPLIED UH

56:55TO THIS UPDATED PROPOSAL.

56:57BOTH PROPOSALS WERE DEEMED

56:59QUALIFIED PROJECTS.

57:02SO THE PURPOSE TODAY AGAIN IS

57:05TO DISCUSS THE AND OUR OUR

57:08INITIAL REVIEW OF THESE UH, TWO

57:10UNSOLICITED PUBLIC PRIVATE

57:12PARTNERSHIP PROPOSALS THAT WERE

57:14SUBMITTED UH WITH REGARD TO THE

57:15YACHT CLUB UH CAPE CORAL YACHT

57:17CLUB REDEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE

57:19GOING TO COMPARE BOTH OF THOSE

57:21UH PROPOSALS.

57:22UH WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE

57:23PROS AND CONS OF EACH AND THEN

57:26OBTAIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S

57:27DIRECTION FOR A PATH FORWARD.

57:31SO IN SUMMARY, UH, WHAT WE HAVE

57:33IS WE HAVE TWO COMPETING

57:35PROPOSALS ONE UH, THAT UH,

57:37SIGNIFICANTLY IS DIFFERENT WHAT

57:40THE ORIGINAL VISION OF THE CITY

57:41COUNCIL HAD BEEN UH WE HAD WE

57:44WITH THE ADDITION OF TOWNHOMES

57:46,UH, BOAT STORAGE HOTEL UH THE

57:50YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THERE'S AN

57:52EXPANDED BEACH THE MOVEMENT OF

57:54THE UH PROPOSED UH CHANGE TO

57:57THE BOAT RAMP, UH, BACK TO ITS

57:59ORIGINAL LOCATION AND THEN WE

58:01HAVE THE AND A SECOND PROPOSAL

58:04THAT HEWS ITSELF CLOSER TO WHAT

58:06THE CITY COUNCIL'S VISION WAS,

58:08UH, WITH THE ADDITION OF A

58:10HOTEL.

58:13SO FOREST AND Y SEED, UH, AND

58:16JUST JUST TO MAKE SURE WE PUT

58:18THESE IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.

58:19THEY'RE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER

58:20BUT ALPHABETICAL ORDER.

58:21THAT'S IT.

58:22UH, SO FOREST AND Y CDBG UH

58:25CONCEPT UH AGAIN THE SCOPE OF

58:27THE AMENITIES WERE MARINA,

58:29HOTEL RETAIL, AUTOMATED BOAT

58:31STORAGE, TOWNHOMES, PARKING UH

58:34EXPANDED BEACH UH COMMUNITY

58:36CENTER PICK UH UP PARK WITH

58:38PICNIC AREA AND PUBLIC ACCESS

58:40UH AMENITIES.

58:42THE STATE OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT

58:44UH INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL WAS

58:46APPROXIMATELY $250 MILLION CITY

58:50FUNDED UH AND A SHARED

58:52RESPONSIBILITY UH THE CITY THE

58:53CITIES LISTED FOR THE PUBLIC

58:55IMPROVEMENTS UH AS THE CITY

58:57COUNCIL RECALL WE HAVE A GROUP

58:59OF DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT

59:01WE DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY

59:02COUNCIL PROBABLY ABOUT 4 OR 5

59:04MONTHS ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO.

59:06UH, SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT I'M

59:08LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBERS WHEN

59:09I'M TALKING ABOUT THE

59:11INFORMATION THAT'S INCLUDED

59:12HERE.

59:13SO THE LISTED IMPROVEMENTS FOR

59:15THE CITY UH, TO DO WOULD BE UH

59:17,PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE OR

59:18COMMUNITY FACILITIES,

59:19WATERFRONT ENHANCEMENTS, UH, OR

59:21OTHER PUBLIC BENEFIT

59:22IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH

59:24THE WITH THE PARTNER WITH THE

59:25PROJECT UH AND A CONDITION UH,

59:28THE DEVELOPER IS LOOKING FOR A

59:3050% UH, FUELING STATION COST UH

59:33WOULD BE REIMBURSED UH OR WOULD

59:36BE COVERED BY THE CITY, UH,

59:38SIMILAR TO THE BOATHOUSE

59:40AGREEMENT.

59:40UH, AND THEN SO IN THIS CASE,

59:43UH, IN BOTH PROPOSALS THE CITY

59:45COUNCIL IS ALREADY UH IN THE

59:47PROCESS OF PUTTING IN SEAWALLS

59:49AS WELL AS THE BOAT RAMP, UH,

59:51RIGHT NEXT TO THE MARINA.

59:53AND SO THAT IS A COST THAT IS

59:54ALREADY INCLUDED FOR BOTH

59:56PROPOSALS UH, FROM PUBLIC

59:58INFRASTRUCTURE.

59:59UH, WE ESTIMATED $105 MILLION

1:00:01UH, FOR THE CITY, UH, JUST

1:00:03BASED UPON THE THINGS THAT WERE

1:00:05IDENTIFIED, UH, POTENTIALLY

1:00:06THAT THE CITY WOULD END UP

1:00:07HAVING TO PICK UP AS PART OF

1:00:10THAT PROPOSAL THE DEVELOPER

1:00:12FUNDED WOULD BE ON THE THE

1:00:14BOARDWALK, THE FIXED AND THE

1:00:15FLOATING DOCKS PUMP OUT LAW

1:00:16ENFORCEMENT DOCK EDGE MARINA

1:00:18OPERATIONS FACILITY, HOTEL

1:00:20RETAIL PARKING IN ANY AUTOMATED

1:00:22BOAT STORAGE.

1:00:25FOR K AND B UH AND THE YACHT

1:00:27CLUBS OF AMERICA.

1:00:28THAT'S WHY COA UH FOR THEM THEY

1:00:32ARE PUTTING IN 130 WET SLIPS UH

1:00:35WHICH AGAIN HEWS BACK TO UH OUR

1:00:38ORIGINAL DESIGN ASSOCIATED WITH

1:00:40THE MARINA 35 LIFT LIFT SLIPS,

1:00:43UH, FLOATING FIXED DOCKS, A

1:00:46BOARDWALK, UH FUEL STATION UH

1:00:48FULLY FUNDED BY UH KMP A 685

1:00:52SPACE PARKING GARAGE, UH HOTEL

1:00:55COMMUNITY SPACE RESTAURANT,

1:00:57POOLSIDE BAR, SHIP STORE.

1:01:00THE STATE OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT

1:01:02FOR K AND B UH, WHEN THEY

1:01:04ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED THIS

1:01:06PROPOSAL UH, WAS 30 TO $33

1:01:09MILLION AND THAT WAS

1:01:10SPECIFICALLY AT THAT TIME FOR

1:01:12THE THE MARINA AS WELL AS THE

1:01:15PARKING GARAGE AND THE SHIP

1:01:16STORE.

1:01:17THEY HAVE A UH A SEPARATELY

1:01:20IDENTIFIED UM COMPANY CALLED

1:01:23BOND HOSPITALITY THAT WILL

1:01:25PROVIDE A SEPARATE ESTIMATE.

1:01:26BUT RIGHT NOW OUR ESTIMATE FOR

1:01:27THE HOTEL CONSTRUCTION COST IS

1:01:3153 TO $88 MILLION.

1:01:33PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS, UH, THE CITY

1:01:36FUNDED OR SHARED RESPONSIBILITY

1:01:37IN THIS CASE PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS,

1:01:39THE UPLAND AREAS, ROADWAY

1:01:41SEAWALLS UH, IT BASICALLY THE

1:01:43CIVIL WORK UM IN ADDITION, THEY

1:01:46WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A 50%

1:01:48CONTRIBUTION FOR THE SHIP STORE

1:01:49AS THE POLICE FIRE AND THE

1:01:52COAST GUARD WOULD BE SHARING

1:01:53HALF THE BUILDING EACH ONE EACH

1:01:57PARTY WOULD FUND ITS OWN FEMA.

1:01:58FINNEY UH THE ESTIMATED COST

1:02:00FOR THEM WOULD BE 56.5 MILLION

1:02:03SEAWALLS AND BOAT RAMP ALREADY

1:02:05INCLUDED AT 22.7 MILLION.

1:02:08SO THE DEVELOPER FUNDED PORTION

1:02:10OF THIS AGAIN IN SUMMARY WOULD

1:02:11BE THE MARINE MARINA

1:02:13CONSTRUCTION PARKING GARAGE

1:02:15BOATS, THE BOARDWALKS, FIXED

1:02:17DOCKS, UH FLOATING DOCKS, FUEL

1:02:21STATION FUNDED 100% AGAIN HOTEL

1:02:23AMENITIES FUNDED BY BOAT AND

1:02:24HOSPITALITY.

1:02:29SO AGAIN.

1:02:30>> THESE WERE PICTURES THAT

1:02:31WERE TAKEN FROM THE UH FROM

1:02:32THEIR PROPOSALS KIND OF GIVE

1:02:34YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THESE LOOK

1:02:35LIKE.

1:02:36THIS ONE IS FOR US DEVELOPMENT

1:02:38ONLY.

1:02:38UH SO WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF GO

1:02:40THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT.

1:02:41UH, AND THESE ARE THE PROPOSALS

1:02:43BY UH CAB MARINE KIND OF GIVE

1:02:46YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE SITE

1:02:47WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, WHEN IT'S

1:02:49FULLY DEVELOPED.

1:02:59SO ON A COMPARISON BASIS THE

1:03:01SUBMITTED CONCEPT IS BASICALLY

1:03:03THE SAME FOR BOTH ITS

1:03:04WATERFRONT DESTINATION MARINA

1:03:06RESORT REDEVELOPMENT FOR BOTH

1:03:09PROPOSALS UM WITHIN FOR UH

1:03:12FOREST DEVELOPMENT UH THEIR

1:03:13PROPOSAL IS 121 PLUS WET SLIPS

1:03:16PLUS A UM THE TRANSIENT DOCK

1:03:19EDGE AND UM FOR CANBY MARINA

1:03:23IT'S 130 35 LIFT SLIPS, UH, LAW

1:03:27ENFORCEMENT DOCKETS.

1:03:28THAT'S ON BOTH OF THEM, UH,

1:03:30BOAT RAMPS, UH, THE BOAT RAMP

1:03:32AS FAR AS THE MARINA SCOPE FOR

1:03:34FORCE DEVELOPMENT APPEARS TO BE

1:03:35MOVED BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL

1:03:37LOCATION.

1:03:37UH, FOR K AND B MARINE IT WOULD

1:03:40STAY WHERE IT'S LOCATED AT K

1:03:42AND B MARINE WOULD UTILIZE OUR

1:03:45DESIGNS TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE

1:03:46WITH REGARD TO ANY OF THE WORK

1:03:48ASSOCIATED WITH THE MARINA

1:03:51HOTEL LODGING UH, BOTH HOTELS I

1:03:53BELIEVE THE FORCE DEVELOPMENT

1:03:55IS 150 KEY HOTEL UH K AND B

1:03:58MARINE HAS 125 ROOM UH OR 125

1:04:01KEY RESORT HOTEL 667 STORY

1:04:05BUILDING I BELIEVE BOTH OF THEM

1:04:06ARE IN THE 6 TO 7 STORY UH

1:04:07RANGE RESIDENTIAL UH FOREST

1:04:11DEVELOPMENT IS IS PROPOSING TO

1:04:14ADD A UH RESIDENTIAL ON THE

1:04:16NORTHERN SIDE OF THE PARK UH

1:04:19WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVE PARKING

1:04:21UH, THE NO RESIDENTIAL IS

1:04:23IDENTIFIED AND K AND B MARINE

1:04:26PARKING, UH, BOTH STRUCTURED

1:04:27AND TRAILER PARKING IS PROPOSED

1:04:29UH QUANTITY UH FOR EITHER OR

1:04:31NOT UH STATED IN THE SCOPE UH

1:04:34WITH UH K AND B MARINE UH

1:04:35THEY'RE RIGHT THERE WITH THE UH

1:04:37THE SAME PROPOSAL THAT UH WE'VE

1:04:40IDENTIFIED AT 688 WITH 685

1:04:43SPACE PARKING GARAGE.

1:04:46THE SCOPE OF THE AMENITIES

1:04:48AGAIN UH, SUBMITTED ON HERE

1:04:49MARINA SLIPS.

1:04:50UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THOSE

1:04:52THE FUELING FUEL DOCK, MARINE

1:04:54SALE, MARINE FUEL SALES AGAIN

1:04:56FORCE DEVELOPMENT IS, UH,

1:04:58APPROXIMATELY 50% OF THE COST

1:04:59OF THE FUELING STATION WOULD BE

1:05:01BORNE BY THE CITY UH K AND B UH

1:05:04FOR THEM THEY THEY'RE THEY

1:05:05WOULD UH, FUND 100% UH THEIR

1:05:08PROPOSAL STATES THAT UH YEAH

1:05:10AGAIN 100% UH FUNDED BY KMP.

1:05:13WE'LL GET TO THE REVENUE SHARE

1:05:14HERE IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES

1:05:16PUBLIC AMENITIES UH EXPANDED

1:05:18BEACH AREA UH COMMUNITY CENTER

1:05:20PICNIC UH PARK PICNIC AREA,

1:05:22PUBLIC ACCESS AMENITIES

1:05:23PROPOSED.

1:05:25UH IN THE SAME VEIN WE HAVE K

1:05:27AND B THERE A RESORT POOL

1:05:29FACILITY FUNDING UH IS

1:05:31UNSOLICITED UH RIGHT NOW UH,

1:05:33THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE CITY

1:05:34PICKING UP THE POOL COST UH,

1:05:37THE PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS UH,

1:05:39ANTICIPATED A CITY FUNDING OF

1:05:40COURSE AS PART OF THE SEAWALL

1:05:42PROJECT.

1:05:43UH BEACH RESTROOM UH

1:05:44CONSTRUCTION SERVICES PROPOSED

1:05:46UH HOWEVER NOT THE FUNDING.

1:05:48SO WE WOULD ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE

1:05:49FOR THE FUNDING OF THE BEACH

1:05:51RESTROOMS, COMMERCIAL UH, HOTEL

1:05:54RETAIL RESTAURANTS, UH SHIP

1:05:56STORE ADDITIONAL WATERFRONT

1:05:58MARINA WEST RESTAURANT,

1:05:59AUTOMATED BOAT STORAGE

1:06:01TOWNHOMES UH FOR CAMBY HOTEL

1:06:04EVENT ANNEX UH THEIR PROPOSAL

1:06:05IS TO AS OPPOSED TO A FULL

1:06:08BLOWN UM YEAH.

1:06:11THE UH.

1:06:14SORRY.

1:06:15.

1:06:15IT JUST LOST IT THE UH.

1:06:21THEY WOULD BE LOOKING TO, UH,

1:06:23CREATE AN EVENT ANNEX AS

1:06:25OPPOSED TO A, UH.

1:06:29LIKE IN I THINK A COMMUNITY

1:06:31CENTER.

1:06:31SORRY.

1:06:32IT WAS RIGHT.

1:06:33THERE ON THE TIP OF MY TONGUE.

1:06:35UH, SO THEY WOULD ACTUALLY

1:06:37COMBINE THE COMMUNITY CENTER

1:06:38EVENT ANNEX INTO ONE INTO ONE

1:06:40FACILITY ATTACHED TO THE HOTEL

1:06:41.

1:06:42UH, THEY WOULD ALSO PROVIDE A

1:06:44RESTAURANT, UH, WHICH IS AN

1:06:46ATTACHED RESTAURANT TO THE

1:06:47HOTEL, UH, KITCHENS, POOLSIDE

1:06:49BAR, SHIP STORE AND AGAIN THE

1:06:51UH, PARKING GARAGE.

1:06:55AS WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE STATE

1:06:57OF THE UH INVESTMENT BY UH

1:06:59FOREST IS APPROXIMATELY 250

1:07:01MILLION UH IN BOTH IN WITH UH K

1:07:06AND B WE'RE LOOKING AT 30 TO 33

1:07:09MILLION FOR THE MARINA PORTION.

1:07:09UH, HOTEL CAPITAL IS ANYWHERE

1:07:12BETWEEN 55 AND 88 MILLION

1:07:15PRIVATE FUNDING DESCRIBED IN UH

1:07:17IN BOTH CASES THE FUNDING UH,

1:07:19THEY'RE LOOKING AT FROM A

1:07:20FUNDING STANDPOINT THEY'VE GOT

1:07:21PRIVATE EQUITY AS WELL AS UH

1:07:24LOANS UH BOTH BOTH PART BOTH

1:07:27PROPOSALS HAVE BASICALLY THE

1:07:28SAME STRUCTURE.

1:07:31AGAIN THE CITY'S

1:07:33RESPONSIBILITIES UH, AS A YOU

1:07:34KNOW, REITERATION OF THE CITY'S

1:07:36RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER FOREST

1:07:38DEVELOPMENT FUEL TANKS,

1:07:39DISPENSING SYSTEMS WE PICK UP

1:07:4150% OF THAT POOL COMPLEX BEACH

1:07:44BEACH CONSTRUCT RECONSTRUCTION

1:07:45SEAWALLS, ROADWAYS, UTILITIES,

1:07:47ANY UPLAND STRUCTURES AND

1:07:49AMENITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT

1:07:51CAN BE STATES NO CITY

1:07:53OBLIGATION ON THE MARINE

1:07:54COMPONENTS UH PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS

1:07:56THE ANTICIPATED A CITY FUNDED

1:07:58UH BEACH RESTROOMS CONSTRUCTION

1:08:01PROPOSED UH FUNDING IS WOULD BE

1:08:03BY THE CITY CIVIL SITE WORK

1:08:04AGAIN BY THE CITY AS WELL AS

1:08:06THE RESORT POOL.

1:08:09SO WE DID AN IN PLAN REPORT

1:08:11WHICH WE'LL GET TO UH SHORTLY

1:08:12BUT IT'S BASICALLY ON THE

1:08:14MARINA ONLY UH, SINCE WE DIDN'T

1:08:16HAVE FULL COST FOR BOTH SIDES

1:08:18NOR A TIMEFRAME FOR WHEN THEY

1:08:19WOULD ALL BE COMPLETED.

1:08:24SO LET'S GET INTO THE THE THE

1:08:26LEASING SIDE IN THIS CASE

1:08:28FOREST UH DEVELOPMENT HAS

1:08:30PROPOSED A 99 YEAR LEASE FROM

1:08:32THE CITY WITH OPTIONS TO

1:08:33PURCHASE IN A FEE SIMPLE BASIS.

1:08:35UH, THE FEE SIMPLE PURCHASE IS

1:08:37PRIMARILY ASSOCIATED WITH THE,

1:08:39UH, THE TOWNHOMES, UH, PART OF

1:08:43THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO SET

1:08:45THE THE VALUE UPON UPON THE UH

1:08:47AGREEMENT TO ANY ANY

1:08:49DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT AND THEN

1:08:50ANY FEE SIMPLE PURCHASE WOULD

1:08:52BE AT A LATER DATE WHEN WHEN

1:08:53THE WHEN THE PROPERTY'S BEEN

1:08:55DEVELOPED WATERFRONT HOTEL IS

1:08:57PROPOSED UNDER A SEPARATE 99

1:08:59YEAR GROUND LEASE UH WITH THE

1:09:00OPTION TO PURCHASE ON A FEE

1:09:02SIMPLE BASIS UH AGAIN WITH THE

1:09:04SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS ABOUT

1:09:06WHEN TO SET THE.

1:09:07VALUE OF THE OF THE PROPERTY

1:09:09HOTEL GROUND RENTS STARTS AT

1:09:11OPENING UH ON THE HOTEL IF

1:09:13THERE IS GROUND RENT AND THEY

1:09:14DON'T PURCHASE IT UH THE

1:09:17PROPOSAL ALSO STATES ANY PUBLIC

1:09:18WATERFRONT ASSETS REMAIN

1:09:19PUBLICLY OWNED, UH, THROUGH A

1:09:22LONG TERM GROUND SO MAINTENANCE

1:09:24WOULD BE ON THEM THROUGH A LONG

1:09:25TERM GROUND LEASE.

1:09:27WE WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO ONLY

1:09:28OWN THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.

1:09:32IN K AND B THAT DO NOT PROPOSE

1:09:35UH TO ACQUIRE ANY REAL PROPERTY

1:09:36.

1:09:37THEY DO PROPOSE A 99 YEAR, UH,

1:09:39CONCESSION LEASE FOR THE

1:09:40CONSTRUCTION, OPERATION AND

1:09:41MAINTENANCE OF THE MARINA

1:09:43FACILITIES.

1:09:44UH STATES THE CITY RETAINS A

1:09:46FULL OWNERSHIP OF ALL LAND AND

1:09:48IMPROVEMENTS UH AND ALL

1:09:50IMPROVEMENTS CONSTRUCTED BY KMT

1:09:51BECOME THE CITY PROPERTY A

1:09:53TERMINATION OR EXPIRATION OF

1:09:55THE LEASE.

1:09:59SO SOME OF THE REVENUE TERMS

1:10:01HAVE BEEN PROPOSED.

1:10:01AGAIN WE HAVE A NEGOTIATED A

1:10:03CONTRACT HERE.

1:10:04SO THIS IS WHAT CAME IN THROUGH

1:10:05THE PROPOSED UH UH THE THE

1:10:08PROPOSED TERMS THAT WERE

1:10:10INCLUDED IN THIS UH THESE

1:10:11UNSOLICITED PROPOSALS AS YOU

1:10:15CAN SEE FOR FOR THE MOST PART

1:10:16YOU'RE LOOKING AT UH SOMETHING

1:10:18THAT BEGINS AT ABOUT 2% UH, FOR

1:10:21BOTH ON SLIP MARINA REVENUE UH,

1:10:23TIMING OF WHEN THAT WOULD

1:10:25HAPPEN UH, ARE INCLUDED.

1:10:26THAT'S A LITTLE MORE DETAILED

1:10:27IN THE PROPOSALS UH, BUT UH,

1:10:30BOTH STARTED ABOUT 2% ON THE

1:10:32FUEL CELLS.

1:10:33FUEL CELLS UH, BOTH ARE

1:10:35BASICALLY AT THE 5% ON A LEASE

1:10:37FEE ON THE GROSS ANNUAL UH

1:10:39REVENUES UH, THE SAME ON BOTH

1:10:41SIDES.

1:10:42UH B IS IDENTIFIED THE 5% IS A

1:10:45FIXED PERCENTAGE UH, FOR THE

1:10:46TERM SHIP STORE UH, THEY DON'T

1:10:50ISOLATE ANYTHING IS SEPARATE UH

1:10:52WITH REGARD TO THE PERCENTAGE

1:10:53IN TERMS HOWEVER FOR CAMBY THEY

1:10:55DO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING 5% ON A

1:10:57PRETAX BASIS UH WOULD BE SHARED

1:10:59AND THAT IS ALSO AT A FIXED

1:11:01PERCENTAGE PARKING UH PARKING

1:11:04IS UH IT IS PROPOSED AS PART OF

1:11:07THE PROJECT.

1:11:08UH THEY DO HAVE UH INFORMATION

1:11:11AND THEIR REGARDING REVENUE

1:11:12ASSOCIATED WITH PARKING

1:11:13ALTHOUGH THERE'S NO UH SPECIFIC

1:11:15NUMBERS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED

1:11:17WITH IT SPECIFIC NUMBER OF

1:11:18PARKING SPACES AS WELL AS ANY

1:11:20CITY'S PERCENTAGE ASSOCIATED

1:11:21WITH THAT IS NOT IDENTIFIED FOR

1:11:25BE UH, 2% OF ANY PRETAX PARKING

1:11:27GARAGE SALES UH PERIODIC

1:11:30INCREASES CAPPED UH YOU KNOW,

1:11:32DURING ANY NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE

1:11:34WOULD HAVE ON THE HOTEL UH

1:11:37THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THAT IT'S A

1:11:381% OF GROSS ROOM REVENUE UH,

1:11:40FOR YEARS ONE THROUGH FIVE WITH

1:11:43ANY START OF THE GROSS REVENUE

1:11:45WHEN IT'S OPENED AND THEY'RE

1:11:47ABLE TO, UH, TAKE RESERVATIONS

1:11:50YEAR SIX THROUGH TEN, TWO YEARS

1:11:5111 THROUGH 99 THAT'S GREATER 3%

1:11:53OR $250,000 ANNUAL MINIMUM RENT

1:11:56WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

1:12:00FOR CAMBY.

1:12:01UH, THEY BEGIN AT 2% OF PRETAX

1:12:04HOTEL SALES WITH A FIXED

1:12:05PERCENTAGE PROJECTED TOTAL CITY

1:12:09REVENUE.

1:12:09SO WITH FOREST, UH, AT THIS

1:12:12POINT THEY HAVE UH, YOU KNOW,

1:12:14THERE'S NO CONSOLIDATED

1:12:15CONSOLIDATED LONG TERM REVENUE

1:12:17PROPOSAL THAT'S INCLUDED IN

1:12:18THERE.

1:12:19UH, IN THEIR AN UNSOLICITED

1:12:21PROPOSAL.

1:12:22HOWEVER, THEY DO HAVE SOMETHING

1:12:23IN THERE THAT ALLOWS THAT IN

1:12:25PROVIDES FOR THAT IF AND IF THE

1:12:27CITY ELECTS FOR THE DEVELOPER

1:12:29TO CONSTRUCT ANY OF THE PUBLIC

1:12:31IMPROVEMENTS FACILITIES,

1:12:32PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE,

1:12:33WHATEVER THEY MAY BE ANY PUBLIC

1:12:35IMPROVEMENTS THE DEVELOPER

1:12:36SHALL RECEIVE A DOLLAR FOR

1:12:38DOLLAR CREDIT EQUAL TO THE

1:12:40VERIFIED DEVELOPMENT COST OF

1:12:41SUCH IMPROVEMENTS.

1:12:42UH, WHAT THAT GENERALLY WOULD

1:12:44MEAN IS IS THAT THEY WOULD

1:12:46CONSTRUCT THEM, WE WOULD PAY

1:12:47NOTHING AND UH OF COURSE

1:12:49THERE'D BE NO REVENUE IN THE

1:12:50FUTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THE

1:12:52FACILITY UNTIL THAT THOSE WERE

1:12:53PAID BACK.

1:12:54THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT MEANS.

1:12:56BUT IT WAS AN INTERESTING

1:12:58SECTION OF THE PROPOSAL AND I

1:12:59THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD

1:13:01HAVE THAT IN THIS UH, THIS

1:13:01PRESENTATION FOR K AND B THEY

1:13:05HAVE APPROXIMATELY $176,000

1:13:07ANNUALLY FROM THE MARINE AND

1:13:08THE PARKING UH AT STABILIZATION

1:13:11STABILIZATION GENERALLY MEANS

1:13:11THAT IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S UP AND

1:13:13RUNNING AND UH THEY'RE

1:13:15GENERALLY AT UH 80 TO 90%

1:13:17LEASING AT THE UH OR USAGE AT

1:13:19THE MARINA AS WELL AS THE

1:13:21PARKING GARAGE.

1:13:22UH APPROXIMATELY 416,000

1:13:25ANNUALLY ONCE THE HOTEL UH

1:13:26REVENUE SHARE BEGINS AND THEN

1:13:29IT'S A 99 YEAR COMBINED.

1:13:30SO THEY TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO

1:13:32ACCOUNT COMES OUT TO ABOUT $41

1:13:34MILLION ON A STABILIZED BASIS,

1:13:37$40 MILLION WITH

1:13:38PRE-CONSTRUCTION PERIOD TIMING

1:13:39.

1:13:39SO THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE

1:13:41ESTIMATING BASED UPON THEIR

1:13:42INFORMATION UH, THAT YOU KNOW,

1:13:44THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM TODAY

1:13:46.

1:13:50SO FOR A FINANCING STRUCTURE

1:13:52STANDPOINT FOR EACH OF THEM

1:13:53BOTH OF THEM AGAIN I TOLD YOU

1:13:55THAT THEY START OUT WITH A

1:13:56PRIVATE EQUITY INSTITUTIONAL

1:13:57DEBT.

1:13:58UH, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED WHAT

1:13:59THEY BELIEVE UH, FOR FOREST

1:14:01DOES UH YOU KNOW WHERE THAT

1:14:03EQUITY AND WHERE THE SENIOR

1:14:04DEBT WOULD WORK OUT?

1:14:05UH, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE WORKING

1:14:07MODEL UH, SHOWS AT 2575 SPLIT

1:14:11FOR K AND B THEY'RE CAPITAL

1:14:13MARKETS OF BUYERS.

1:14:14THEY IDENTIFIED WHO THAT IS AND

1:14:15THEIR PROPOSAL THEIR PROPOSAL

1:14:17REFERENCES A SENIOR LEAN DEBT

1:14:18APPROACH PLUS EQUITY STRUCTURE

1:14:20.

1:14:20IT DOES NOT BREAK IT OUT IN

1:14:22BETWEEN EITHER ONE OF THEM AT

1:14:23THIS POINT UNTIL WE'RE IN THE

1:14:25NEGOTIATIONS TO MAKE A

1:14:26DETERMINATION OF WHAT THAT

1:14:27MEANS TO US, WE WOULD ACTUALLY

1:14:28THEN UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER

1:14:30LENDER RELATIONSHIP AND

1:14:32BOUGHTON UH, HOSPITALITY IS.

1:14:33>> THE.

1:14:34HOTEL CAPITAL PROVIDER ON THE

1:14:37SCHEDULE.

1:14:37THEY HAVE THREE PHASES LISTED

1:14:39FOR FOREST DEVELOPMENT.

1:14:40THEY HAVE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT

1:14:41PHASE.

1:14:42THEY'VE GOT A MARINA BOAT PHASE

1:14:43UH TO INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY

1:14:44CENTER.

1:14:45THEN THEY GOT THE HOTEL

1:14:46STRUCTURED PARKING UH, ANY

1:14:48PLEASURE PARK, UH, PUBLIC

1:14:50AMENITIES AND TOWNHOMES.

1:14:51UH, NO COMPARABLE PHASE

1:14:53DURATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED

1:14:55UH BEYOND THAT FOR K AND B UH

1:14:59THEIR APPROACH RIGHT NOW IS,

1:15:01YOU KNOW, TO GET OFF THE GROUND

1:15:0312 TO 18 MONTHS FROM NOTICE TO

1:15:04PROCEED TO BUILD BOTH THE

1:15:05MARINA GARAGE AND THE

1:15:07ADMINISTRATION BUILDING THAT

1:15:08WOULD BE THE SHIP STORE AND

1:15:09THEN THE HOTEL APPROXIMATELY

1:15:11THREE YEARS LATER.

1:15:13PERFORMANCE SECURITY UH THE

1:15:16SECURITY PERFORMANCE UH TERMS

1:15:18THERE'S NOTHING IDENTIFIED UH

1:15:20UH FOR FOREST DEVELOPMENT FOR K

1:15:22AND B THEY ARE PROPOSAL STATES

1:15:23THAT IS THEY WOULD HAVE A

1:15:26TRADITIONAL PERFORMANCE PAYMENT

1:15:27BONDS UH OR ACTUALLY THEY'RE

1:15:30NOT APPLICABLE DUE TO THIS THE

1:15:32SELF-FUNDING APPROACH UH

1:15:33PROPOSAL UH THEY'RE NOT

1:15:34BASICALLY WE'RE NOT SUPPORTING

1:15:36THE FUNDING UH IDENTIFIES

1:15:38INSURANCE AND OTHER PROTECTIONS

1:15:39IN THE STATUTORY SECTION.

1:15:42DEFAULT UH, IF THERE IS ANY

1:15:44DEFAULT UH, THE PROPOSAL FOR

1:15:46CAM UH FOR FOREST ASSUMES THAT

1:15:48THE DEVELOPMENT FINANCE AND

1:15:50CONSTRUCTION UH, OPERATIONAL

1:15:51AND LONG TERM MAINTENANCE RISKS

1:15:53UH, FOR COLUMN B UH THEIR

1:15:55PROPOSAL DOES IDENTIFY THAT THE

1:15:57CITY DOES HAVE STEP IN RIGHTS

1:15:59UH LENDER CURE RIGHTS AS WELL

1:16:02AS OPERATING RESERVE FUND AND

1:16:04TRADITIONAL OR SORRY TRANSITION

1:16:06PROCEDURES FOR CONTINUITY OF

1:16:08SERVICES.

1:16:08SO THAT WOULD MEAN IF SAY IF

1:16:10ANYTHING HAPPENED DURING THAT

1:16:11PERIOD OF TIME THE CITY WOULD

1:16:12HAVE TO STEP IN RIGHT TO TAKE

1:16:13IT OVER UH OR UH THE LENDER

1:16:16WOULD HAVE UH WHOEVER LENT THE

1:16:18MONEY FOR ANY OF THAT WOULD

1:16:19HAVE THE ABILITY TO STEP IN AND

1:16:20COMPLETE THE PROJECT PUBLIC

1:16:24ACCESS STATEMENT UH, THE

1:16:25PROPOSAL EMPHASIZES UH AND BOTH

1:16:28OF THEM DO UH.

1:16:31THAT UH THEY HAVE A UH THEY

1:16:33WANT TO PRESERVE, PRESERVE AND

1:16:35IMPROVE THE PUBLIC ACCESS UH,

1:16:37THROUGH THE EXPANSION OF THE

1:16:38BEACH BOARDWALKS, PARKS UH FOR

1:16:40AND B PROPOSAL STATES THE

1:16:43CONSTRUCTION STAGING IN THIS

1:16:44CASE IS TO TRY TO KEEP, UH,

1:16:47THINGS OPEN, UH, FOR THE YACHT

1:16:48CLUB AND FOR THE OPERATIONS OF

1:16:50THE PUBLIC ACCESS WHILE

1:16:51CONSTRUCTION IS ONGOING ON THE

1:16:53SITE.

1:16:55SO I TOLD YOU EARLIER THAT WE

1:16:57DID A, YOU KNOW, A QUICK

1:16:58IMPLANT, UH, IN OUR GROUP IN,

1:17:01UH, ERICA UH, BALLARD IN, UH,

1:17:03ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DID A

1:17:05QUICK IMPLANT CONSTRUCTION

1:17:06PHASE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO KIND

1:17:07OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE

1:17:09ECONOMIC IMPACT WOULD BE JUST

1:17:10ON THE BASIC MARINA PORTION OF

1:17:12THIS THAT'S THE MOST BUILT OUT

1:17:15PORTION OF THE OF THE

1:17:16PROPOSALS.

1:17:18AND FOR K AND B THEIR INPUT IS

1:17:21MARINA RELATED AS WELL AS

1:17:22PARKING IN THE ADMIN SHIP

1:17:23STORE.

1:17:24SO IT'S A LARGER DOLLAR VALUE.

1:17:26UH AND FOR FOREST UH THEIRS WAS

1:17:29SPECIFICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH

1:17:30THE WITH THE MARINA UH ONLY AND

1:17:33SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE

1:17:34DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS

1:17:37ABOUT $19.2 MILLION.

1:17:38UH, SO K AND B WOULD HAVE A

1:17:40LARGER ECONOMIC IMPACT UH, UP

1:17:43FRONT WITH THE A NUMBER OF

1:17:44AMENITIES THAT THEY WOULD BE

1:17:45PUTTING IN PLACE UH, AS

1:17:47STARTING THE CONSTRUCTION UH,

1:17:50VERSUS FORCE DEVELOPMENT.

1:17:55SO THE PRIMARY REASON WE'RE

1:17:56HERE IS REALLY IT'S GETS BACK

1:17:58TO THE CITY'S VISION OF WHAT

1:17:59THEY ORIGINALLY IDENTIFIED FOR

1:18:01AND WHAT WE'VE DESIGNED FOR THE

1:18:04YACHT CLUB.

1:18:05AND SO THE YOU KNOW, FROM A

1:18:08CHOICE STANDPOINT OUR OUR

1:18:11RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOU ALL IS

1:18:12TO POINT OUT WHETHER SOMEBODY

1:18:14DEVIATED SIGNIFICANTLY OR

1:18:16DIDN'T OR WHERE THEY ARE WITH

1:18:18YOUR VISION OF WHAT YOU WANTED

1:18:19AT THE YACHT CLUB AND THAT'S

1:18:21YOU KNOW, THAT'S FOR THE CITY'S

1:18:23VISION.

1:18:24SO IN THIS CASE FOR US

1:18:26DEVELOPMENT IS THE UH IT IS

1:18:29LITERALLY THE GREATEST

1:18:30PROGRAMMATIC DEPARTURE FROM THE

1:18:31CITY CONCEPT.

1:18:33MUCH OF THE CHANGE IS

1:18:35ASSOCIATED WITH THE PUBLIC

1:18:36MARINA PARK REDEVELOPMENT INTO

1:18:37A MIXED USE UH, REAL ESTATE

1:18:40REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT

1:18:42PROPOSAL.

1:18:42SO AS OPPOSED TO JUST SIMPLY,

1:18:44YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN A RESORT

1:18:45STYLE APPROACH, UH, THERE'S AN

1:18:48ADDED, UH, VENTURE IN HERE THAT

1:18:50CREATES MORE OF A MIXED USE

1:18:51REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT

1:18:53APPROACH.

1:18:54IT HAS A HOTEL WHICH IS A

1:18:56DEVIATION FROM YOUR ORIGINAL

1:18:58VISION ASSOCIATED WITH THE WITH

1:18:59THE YACHT CLUB AUTOMATED DRY

1:19:02STORAGE, UH, WHICH WAS NEVER

1:19:04INCLUDED IN ANYTHING THAT WE

1:19:05TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS THE

1:19:07MARINA WAS CONCERNED, UH, THE

1:19:09STRUCTURED PARKING UH STRUCTURE

1:19:12PARKING IS WAS IS CONTEMPLATED

1:19:14IN BOTH PROPOSALS WATERFRONT UH

1:19:17SORRY AND AND THE WATERFRONT

1:19:19TOWNHOMES WHICH ARE NOT SHOWN

1:19:21ON ANY OF THE CITY'S DESIGN

1:19:22CONCEPTS.

1:19:25IT ALSO CONTEMPLATES AN

1:19:27EVENTUAL FEE SIMPLE SALES OF

1:19:29THOSE TOWNHOME LOTS UH AND

1:19:30PURCHASE OPTIONS FOR THE

1:19:31DEVELOPMENT PARCELS SO THE

1:19:34INITIAL WOULD BE A UH WOULD

1:19:36WOULD GENERALLY BE A LONG TERM

1:19:38LEASE AND THEN A CONVERSION TO

1:19:40A FEE SIMPLE APPROACH WHEN

1:19:41THEY'RE READY TO BE SOLD.

1:19:45FOR US AND OUR CONCEPT WE

1:19:47DIDN'T HAVE ANY OWNERSHIP

1:19:49APPROACH, UH, YOU KNOW,

1:19:50ASSOCIATED WITH OUR CONCEPTS

1:19:52ASSOCIATED WITH THE YACHT CLUB,

1:19:55THE PUBLIC SPACE COMMITMENTS

1:19:56ARE COMPARATIVELY EXPANSIVE AND

1:19:59EXPRESSLY REFERENCES THE

1:20:01EXPANDED BEACH THE BOARDWALK A

1:20:03PUBLIC BOAT UH LAUNCH UH THE

1:20:06FISHING PIER UH THE PICNIC

1:20:08SHADE AREAS UH THE PLAYGROUND

1:20:10SPLASH PADS, RESTROOM AND

1:20:12COMMUNITY CENTER.

1:20:14IT DOES IT DOES NOT ESTABLISH

1:20:17WHETHER ALL CITY CONCEPT

1:20:18COMPONENTS UH, INCLUDING THE

1:20:19TWO SPECIFICALLY SIZE POOLS UM

1:20:22UH 685 PLUS OR MINUS SPACE

1:20:25GARAGE, 46 TRAILER SPACES 11

1:20:27ADA SPACES 27 UH DE DOCKS FIVE

1:20:30STAGING SLIPS FIVE EMERGENCY

1:20:32DOCKS MAINTENANCE BUILDING

1:20:34STORMWATER FACILITIES UM AND

1:20:36SERVICE ACCESS WILL REMAIN IN

1:20:37THE SAME QUANTITY, LOCATION AND

1:20:39CONFIGURATION AS YOUR VISION

1:20:40FOR THE YACHT CLUB.

1:20:43AND THEN IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE

1:20:45IT'S A CONCENTRATION OF

1:20:47DEVELOPER RISK IN THIS CASE UH

1:20:49,IT'S ONE DEVELOPER WHO HAS

1:20:51CONCENTRATION OF MULTIPLE LARGE

1:20:53DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY.

1:20:54IT'S JUST A POINT OF UH OF

1:20:57INFORMATION.

1:20:57IT'S IT'S NOT MEANT TO MEAN

1:20:59ANYTHING OTHER THAN IT'S A

1:21:00CONCENTRATION RISK ISSUE.

1:21:02THAT'S ALL.

1:21:06COMPARISON OF THE CITY'S COMP

1:21:07CONCEPT PLAN FOR COLUMN B.

1:21:09UH, AS I SAID EARLIER IN THE

1:21:11PRESENTATION, THEY ARE THE ONES

1:21:12THAT HAVE THAT MORE CLOSELY

1:21:14FOLLOWS THE CITY CONCEPT ON THE

1:21:17CORE MARINA AND THE PARKING

1:21:18FRAMEWORK.

1:21:19UH, IT DOES DEVIATE WITH UH THE

1:21:22PROPOSAL FOR A HOTEL AS WELL AS

1:21:24AN EVENT CENTER THAT COMBINES

1:21:26WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER UH,

1:21:29THE EXPRESS UH IT DOES

1:21:31EXPRESSLY UTILIZE OUR

1:21:33PROGRAMING FOR THE 130 SLIP

1:21:35MARINA UH, REPLACES REBUILDS,

1:21:37DOCKS, THE BOARDWALKS.

1:21:39UH, IT DOES INCLUDE A PUMP OUT

1:21:41FUEL HARBORMASTER OPERATIONS,

1:21:43LAW ENFORCEMENT, ETC. AND

1:21:45EXACTLY MATCHES THE CITY'S

1:21:46CONCEPT FOR A 685 SPACE PARKING

1:21:48DECK.

1:21:49UH, QUANTITY.

1:21:51THEY'VE ALSO INDICATED THAT THE

1:21:53GARAGE WILL BE BUILT ACCORDING

1:21:55TO THE KIMBERLY KIMBERLY HORN'S

1:21:57DESIGNS AND SPECIFICATIONS.

1:21:58UH, CAB DOES DEPART FROM THE

1:22:01CITY AS POINTED OUT EARLIER UH

1:22:02,WITH THE 6 TO 7 STORY HOTEL

1:22:05CONVENTION COMMUNITY SPACE AND

1:22:07EVENT ANNEX A TWO STORY UH,

1:22:09RESTAURANT ATTACHED TO THE UH

1:22:12HOTEL.

1:22:12ROOFTOP DECK.

1:22:13BAR, POOLSIDE BAR AND EXPANDED

1:22:15FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPERATIONS.

1:22:21IT TREATS SOME OF THE CITY

1:22:22DESIGN ELEMENTS AS SEPARATE

1:22:24CITY OR SHARED OBLIGATIONS.

1:22:26THE BOAT RAMPS ARE EXPECTED TO

1:22:29BE CITY FUNDED.

1:22:29THEY'RE CURRENTLY CITY FUNDED

1:22:30ALREADY THEY'RE PART OF THE UH

1:22:32THE SEAWALL UH, CONSTRUCTION

1:22:36THE BEACH AND RESTROOM

1:22:37CONSTRUCTION UH MAY BE PROVIDED

1:22:39BUT IT HAD IT'S NOT FUNDED BY

1:22:42CAMBIE.

1:22:43THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING

1:22:44FUNDING IS NOT ACCEPTED BY THE

1:22:45CAN BE BOND UH GROUP AND THE

1:22:47POOL AQUATICS RESPONSIBILITY UH

1:22:49IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE UH IS

1:22:52UNRESOLVED HOWEVER, UH, THEY'VE

1:22:53INDICATED THAT THE CITY WOULD

1:22:55PICK UP THE COST OF THE POOL,

1:22:55SO THAT WOULD LIKELY MEAN THAT

1:22:57THEY WOULD PICK UP THE COST OF

1:22:58THE LIFEGUARD STATION, ETC. AND

1:23:00THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING FOR

1:23:01THAT PARTICULAR SITE.

1:23:07HOWEVER, IN LOOKING AT BOTH

1:23:09PROPOSALS AND CONSIDERING THE

1:23:10CITY'S VISION FOR THAT SITE,

1:23:12THE CITY DOES RECOMMEND UH AS A

1:23:15COMMITTEE AND TO GO WITH UH OR

1:23:19RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY

1:23:20COUNCIL CONSIDER CAMBIE MARINE

1:23:22AND YACHT CLUBS FOR THE

1:23:24NEGOTIATION UH, IF YOU SO

1:23:26CHOOSE UH BECAUSE THEY WORK

1:23:27CLOSER TO UH, THE CITY'S VISION

1:23:29FOR THAT SITE AGAIN BOTH DO

1:23:32DEVIATE FROM IT UH WITH THE

1:23:34HOTEL ETC. BUT AT THE SAME TIME

1:23:36THEY DO HEW CLOSER TO WHAT YOU

1:23:38ORIGINALLY IDENTIFIED AS SOME

1:23:40OF THE ELEMENTS THAT YOU WERE

1:23:41LOOKING FOR DOWN THERE.

1:23:45AND THAT'S IT.

1:23:46WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS

1:23:49OKAY.

1:23:50>> THANK YOU.

1:23:50UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KIERAN.

1:23:51YOU KNOW, UM.

1:23:52LET ME.

1:23:53>> BEGIN BY.

1:23:54STARTING OUT WITH A.

1:23:55COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

1:23:55MADE BY CITIZENS INPUT.

1:23:57UM.

1:23:58I THINK.

1:23:59MY COLLEAGUES AND I ARE VERY.

1:24:02APPRECIATIVE THAT.

1:24:03UH.

1:24:04>> YOU KNOW.

1:24:04>> I'M.

1:24:05GLAD WE'RE HERE TODAY TO LEARN

1:24:06WHAT.

1:24:06OUR JOB.

1:24:07>> IS IN THIS ROLE.

1:24:07AND I.

1:24:08KNOW ONE.

1:24:09>> OF THE SPEAKERS AT LEAST

1:24:10TOLD US WHAT OUR JOB IS.

1:24:11>> TO DO.

1:24:12>> SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

1:24:12I DIDN'T.

1:24:13>> KNOW THAT BEFOREHAND.

1:24:14UM I GUESS.

1:24:16SECONDLY MY.

1:24:17APPROACH AND ALL.

1:24:18THIS STUFF IS.

1:24:18TRYING TO.

1:24:19DECIDE WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY

1:24:21AND THE RESIDENTS LONG.

1:24:22TERM AND THAT'S I.

1:24:24>> THINK WHAT WE ALL SHARE UP

1:24:24HERE.

1:24:25AND UH.

1:24:27THIS IS A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE

1:24:28THERE'S A LOT.

1:24:29OF MOVING.

1:24:29PIECES TO IT.

1:24:30AND IT'S A VERY.

1:24:31SIGNIFICANT DECISION.

1:24:32INTO THE FUTURE AND IT'S NOT.

1:24:33GOING TO.

1:24:34>> OCCUR VERY.

1:24:35QUICKLY AND.

1:24:36>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE

1:24:37WITH OUR DECISION FOR A LONG

1:24:39TIME.

1:24:40UH, FROM A P-3 STANDPOINT, MY

1:24:44WHOLE APPROACH AND I THINK I

1:24:45WAS MAYBE ONE OF THE FIRST UP

1:24:47HERE ISN'T JUST LOOKING AT A

1:24:49P-3 APPROACH ON THIS WHEN WE

1:24:50FIRST TALKED ABOUT IT IS TO

1:24:53LESSEN THE RESIN RESIN AND

1:24:55BURDEN FOR ECONOMIC IMPACT AND

1:24:57TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT SERVICE

1:24:59THROUGH A DEVELOPER WHO WOULD

1:25:01BRING CASH INTO THE GAME

1:25:03RECOGNIZING THAT HE HAS TO HAVE

1:25:04UH, A RETURN ON THAT

1:25:07INVESTMENT.

1:25:07SO I'M GIVING UP A LOAD OF

1:25:09WHATEVER WE MIGHT HAVE HERE

1:25:11FROM A RETURN AN ECONOMIC

1:25:12BENEFIT STANDPOINT TO BRING

1:25:15VALUE TO THE RESIDENTS ON A

1:25:16PROPERTY THAT WAS REALLY IN

1:25:18DISARRAY AND REALLY NEED THAT

1:25:21REQUIRING UPGRADING.

1:25:22AND WHEN THE BIG NUMBER CAME

1:25:24BACK I WAS SHOCKED BY THE BIG

1:25:26NUMBER AT THAT TIME.

1:25:27UH, BUT IT WAS BASED ON AN

1:25:29ORIGINAL SCOPE THAT WAS PUT OUT

1:25:31AND HAD RESIDENT INPUT.

1:25:32UH, AND THAT.

1:25:33WAS DONE BEFORE THIS COUNCIL

1:25:35WAS HERE BUT BUT STILL IN THE

1:25:36LIGHT VALUE ALL OF THAT INPUT

1:25:39AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO

1:25:41RECOGNIZE THAT'S HOW THAT

1:25:42PROCESS WAS DONE.

1:25:43UH.

1:25:43>> SO UH AND.

1:25:46WITH RESPECT TO A DEVELOPER

1:25:48COMING IN HERE.

1:25:49UM.

1:25:50>> DEVELOPERS HAVE A LOT OF

1:25:53OPPORTUNITIES OUTSIDE OF CAPE

1:25:54CORAL.

1:25:54UH, IT'S IT'S OUR MISSION TO BE

1:25:58ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE

1:26:01THINGS WE CAN DO TO BUILD OUR

1:26:02COMMERCIAL BASE HERE LONG TERM

1:26:05WISE.

1:26:05WE STILL HAVE THAT FOCUS ON

1:26:07RESIDENTS PAYING 92% OF THE

1:26:10TAXES HERE.

1:26:11WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THAT

1:26:13BURDEN ON RESIDENTS BY

1:26:15INCREASING COMMERCIAL AND IF WE

1:26:17CAN DO THAT IN A MANNER THAT

1:26:20DOESN'T HAMPER US AND BRINGS

1:26:22COMMERCIAL UM, UH, PLEASURES OF

1:26:25LIFE HERE, UH, THAT ARE LESS OF

1:26:27A BURDEN ON RESIDENTS.

1:26:28I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US

1:26:29AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M

1:26:30SUPPORTIVE OF LOOKING AT THESE

1:26:32KIND OF MAJOR COMMERCIAL

1:26:34DEVELOPMENTS.

1:26:34UH, IT'S OUR MISSION TO HAVE

1:26:36THE INCENTIVES HERE TO ATTRACT

1:26:39DEVELOPERS TO COME AS PART OF

1:26:41THAT PROCESS.

1:26:42UH, AS I SAID, THEY COULD GO

1:26:45ANYWHERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF

1:26:46NICE OCEANFRONT PROPERTY THAT

1:26:48THEY COULD BE LOOKING AT.

1:26:49BUT WE WANT THOSE DEVELOPERS TO

1:26:52COME HERE AND INVEST IN OUR

1:26:54CITY AND HELP OUR RESIDENTS

1:26:56HAVE THE ACCOUTERMENTS THAT

1:26:58YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE.

1:27:00UH, PLUS LESSEN THAT ECONOMIC

1:27:03BURDEN.

1:27:03SO I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE

1:27:04POINT, BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE

1:27:05REASON THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT

1:27:06DOING THIS.

1:27:07UM, AND AND THIS IS A LONG TERM

1:27:11PROCESS WHATEVER WE CHOOSE HERE

1:27:13TODAY, WHETHER IT'S WE CHOOSE

1:27:14ONE OR NONE OR WE PICK TWO TO

1:27:18CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON IT'S

1:27:20GOING TO INVOLVE A LOT OF

1:27:22NEGOTIATION BECAUSE THERE WERE

1:27:23THINGS UH, THAT THEY BROUGHT

1:27:25FORWARD THAT THEY WERE FILLING

1:27:27WERE GOING TO BE.

1:27:28UM AMENABLE TO WHAT WE WOULD

1:27:31LIKE TO HAVE AND MAYBE THEY

1:27:34DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH MAYBE TO GO

1:27:35TOO FAR IN CERTAIN AREAS.

1:27:37THAT PROCESS IN ITSELF IS GOING

1:27:39TO TAKE A LONG TERM.

1:27:40AND YOU HEARD SOME OF THOSE YOU

1:27:41HEARD ABOUT THE POOL, YOU HEARD

1:27:43ABOUT WHERE THE BOAT RAMPS ARE

1:27:44LOCATED.

1:27:45YOU HEARD ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT

1:27:46WE WANT TO HAVE UH, ACTUAL

1:27:49RESIDENT PROPERTY ON THE

1:27:50FACILITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO

1:27:51SELL OFF AND THAT WOULD BE SOLD

1:27:53OFF.

1:27:53UH, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF

1:27:56PARAMETERS IN HERE AND UM, I

1:27:58LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO IF IF

1:28:01I'M GOING TO HAVE A VERY

1:28:02SERIOUS OPERATION, I WANT TO

1:28:04MAKE SURE I'M HAVING SOMEONE

1:28:06INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS THAT

1:28:07IS EXPERT AND DOING OPERATIONS

1:28:10AND THAT KIND OF OPERATION.

1:28:12SO I MIGHT IS JUST FOR THE ON

1:28:14THE LINE THAT WE LOOK AT

1:28:16OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY

1:28:17REPRESENTATION ON THIS TO HELP

1:28:19US NEGOTIATE THIS AND IT KEEPS

1:28:21US A LITTLE BIT CLEANER ON IT

1:28:23AND IT ALSO HELPS US TO GET

1:28:24THROUGH THE NEGOTIATING PROCESS

1:28:26AND RIGHT UH ON CONFLICT.

1:28:29MANNER IF YOU WILL.

1:28:30UM I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO GET

1:28:33YOU INTO WATER THE DETAILS I

1:28:34DON'T WANT TO TRY AND

1:28:35MONOPOLIZE ANY DISCUSSION UP

1:28:36HERE.

1:28:36UH, I THINK THAT SOME OF THE

1:28:38THINGS THAT THAT, UH, ARE

1:28:41BROUGHT FORTH BY BOTH PROPOSALS

1:28:43ARE GOOD THINGS.

1:28:44UM, I DON'T HAVE A DIRECTION

1:28:48YET IN MY HEAD RIGHT NOW

1:28:50ALTHOUGH LEANING ONE WAY I'M

1:28:52GOING TO PROBABLY SIT UP HERE

1:28:54AND LISTEN TO SOME OF THE

1:28:55DISCUSSION WITH THE REST OF MY

1:28:56COLLEAGUES AS TO AND BEFORE I

1:28:58FORM ANY KIND OF FURTHER

1:28:59DECISION I'LL.

1:29:00>> LEAVE IT.

1:29:01>> AT THAT.

1:29:01MAYOR AS YOU WELL THANK.

1:29:02YOU, THANK YOU.

1:29:03COUNCIL MEMBER LEAVING?

1:29:05YEAH.

1:29:05>> UH.

1:29:06>> COUPLE OF THINGS UH.

1:29:10WITH CAN.

1:29:11BE I'D.

1:29:13>> LIKE TO KNOW.

1:29:14BEFORE MAKING A DECISION LIKE

1:29:16THIS WHAT OTHER PROJECTS.

1:29:17THEY'VE DONE.

1:29:19WHETHER THEY'VE.

1:29:20BEEN COMPLETED.

1:29:21PER THE SCHEDULE.

1:29:23>> THAT THEY'VE.

1:29:23STATED BECAUSE THEY'RE.

1:29:24TALKING ABOUT.

1:29:25IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

1:29:27MR. MASON, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

1:29:30AM THEM.

1:29:32COMPLETING THE MARINA.

1:29:36AND WHATNOT?

1:29:37UH, 12.

1:29:40>> TO 18 MONTHS.

1:29:41I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THEY'VE

1:29:42COMPLETED.

1:29:43OTHER PROJECTS.

1:29:44IN A TIMELY.

1:29:45MANNER PER.

1:29:46THEIR PROMISE SCHEDULE BECAUSE

1:29:49.

1:29:49>> IF YOU HEAR THE CITIZENS.

1:29:50YOU KNOW.

1:29:51THE YACHT CLUB HAS BEEN SITTING

1:29:53THERE.

1:29:54AFTER BEING DEMOLISHED, HAS

1:29:56BEEN SITTING THERE FOR.

1:29:57THREE YEARS.

1:29:59NOW WITH FAST.

1:30:01AND I'M SORRY AND I AGREE WITH

1:30:04THE CITIZENS NOW WHY WOULD I

1:30:07WANT TO SEE TOWNHOUSES THERE?

1:30:09BUT NOT.

1:30:09>> ONLY.

1:30:10THAT UM.

1:30:11I THINK THIS PAPERWORK THAT WE

1:30:15WERE ALL.

1:30:16GIVEN UP HERE ON THE DAIS UH,

1:30:20FROM FORREST I THINK CAN BE

1:30:22NEEDS THE UH, COURTESY, SHALL I

1:30:26SAY OF BEING ABLE TO RESPOND.

1:30:29>> TO THIS.

1:30:31UH, TO ALL OF US.

1:30:32SO THAT.

1:30:33>> WE HAVE THE WHOLE PICTURE AT

1:30:36THIS POINT I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE

1:30:39REALLY KNOW ALL THE DETAILS.

1:30:41YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A LOT OF

1:30:43IN THIS PAPERWORK.

1:30:44THERE WERE A LOT OF ACCUSATIONS

1:30:46MADE.

1:30:47AND I.

1:30:48THINK THEY NEED TO BE GIVEN

1:30:50THE.

1:30:51COURTESY TO.

1:30:51>> ADDRESS THEM.

1:30:53THANK YOU.

1:30:56UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS THANK YOU.

1:30:59THANK YOU.

1:31:00MAYOR.

1:31:00UM.

1:31:03I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE SINCE

1:31:071977 AND UH, SO THE LAST COUPLE

1:31:11OF YEARS AND UH, WITH REGARD TO

1:31:14WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE YACHT

1:31:15CLUB AFTER UH, HURRICANE IAN

1:31:17IT'S KIND OF DEJA VU FROM, UM,

1:31:21CAPE HARBOR AND TARPON POINT

1:31:23AND AND THE REST OF OF UH, YOU

1:31:26KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S

1:31:27HAPPENED UH, TO SOME DEGREE

1:31:29SEVEN ISLANDS.

1:31:30SO WE'RE WE'RE IN ANOTHER UH,

1:31:33SITUATION WHERE UM WE ARE

1:31:36ABSOLUTELY NOT GOING TO PLEASE

1:31:37EVERYONE AND EVERYONE'S DESIRES

1:31:40AND AND UH, ALL OF THE UH THAT

1:31:43NEEDS NEED TO BE MET FOR SOME

1:31:46AND FOR OTHERS THOSE WOULD BE

1:31:47WANTS.

1:31:48UM, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE

1:31:50CONFLICT BETWEEN WHAT ONE WANTS

1:31:52AND WHAT ANOTHER WANTS.

1:31:54SO UH, THE JOB BECOMES UM HOW

1:32:00DO YOU MEET THE THE MAJORITY OF

1:32:02OF THE NEEDS HOW DO YOU PREPARE

1:32:04THE CITY FOR THE FUTURE WHEN WE

1:32:07GO BACK IN HISTORY IN THE YACHT

1:32:08CLUB WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED WE

1:32:09HAD 10,000 PEOPLE HERE.

1:32:12UM, WE HAD A VERY, VERY SMALL,

1:32:15UH, FOOTPRINT OF RESIDENTIAL

1:32:17PROPERTIES IN WHAT IS TODAY,

1:32:20UH, 120MI2.

1:32:22UH, THAT HAS BECOME.

1:32:23UH MORE POPULATED, UH MORE

1:32:28DIVERSE POPULATION, UH YOUNGER

1:32:31FAMILIES, UM, YOU KNOW, WAY

1:32:33MORE AMENITIES.

1:32:34UH AND AND WE ARE YOU KNOW WHAT

1:32:37WAS UH, INITIALLY BILLED AS A

1:32:40WATERFRONT WONDERLAND AND

1:32:42PEOPLE WANT TO COME HERE, UH,

1:32:45THE LEE COUNTY TOURIST

1:32:46DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL HAS UH, UH

1:32:48,BEEN SENSITIVE TO THE TO THE

1:32:50GROWTH OF TOURISM HERE AND THE

1:32:52PEOPLE THAT COME TO OUR

1:32:53COMMUNITY AND AND UH, THEY THEY

1:32:56SPEND THEIR MONEY ON OUR LOCAL

1:32:58BUSINESSES AND OUR OUR

1:32:59BUSINESS.

1:33:00OWNERS.

1:33:00>> UH, ACROSS THE CITY ARE

1:33:02HAPPY TO HAVE VISITORS COME TO

1:33:04OUR AREA.

1:33:05UH, WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT

1:33:08NEEDING COMMERCIAL TAX BASE.

1:33:10WELL, THEN WE HAVE TO BE

1:33:12RECEPTIVE TO COMMERCIAL

1:33:14BUSINESSES, UH, COMING HERE AND

1:33:16AND A LOT OF THOSE COMMERCIAL

1:33:18BUSINESSES RELY UPON OTHER

1:33:21BUSINESSES WANTING TO COME HERE

1:33:22.

1:33:22AND SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME,

1:33:25UH, WHEN CONFERENCES AND

1:33:28CONVENTIONS AND UH, YOU KNOW,

1:33:30THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS ARE ARE

1:33:32LOOKING FOR CITIES AND WHERE DO

1:33:34THEY WANT TO GO?

1:33:35UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY

1:33:37LOOK FOR IS THEY LOOK FOR WELL,

1:33:38HOW HOW CAN WE HOUSE A CERTAIN

1:33:40NUMBER OF PEOPLE OF OF UH THE

1:33:43PARTICIPANTS IN THOSE EVENTS

1:33:45AND SO THEY LOOK AT HOTEL ROOM

1:33:47COUNT AND THEY THEY LOOK AT

1:33:48CONFERENCE ROOM FACILITIES AND

1:33:50AND SO WHEN WHEN WE LOOK AT

1:33:53THIS TYPE OF A DEVELOPMENT IT'S

1:33:55IT'S REALLY YOU KNOW, UH SINCE

1:33:58IT IS A CITY ASSET IT'S

1:34:00SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST FOR A

1:34:02VERY, VERY SMALL FOOTPRINT OF

1:34:04OUR CITY.

1:34:04IT'S FOR OUR ENTIRE CITY AND

1:34:06IT'S FOR OUR ENTIRE CITY'S

1:34:08FINANCIAL BACKBONE.

1:34:09UH AND THE ABILITY FOR US, UH

1:34:12UM UH, TO MAKE OURSELVES AN

1:34:16ATTRACTION FOR THOSE DOLLARS TO

1:34:17COME INTO OUR AREA SO THAT IT'S

1:34:20THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE USED UH,

1:34:22INSTEAD OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS

1:34:24THAT ARE USED FOR A LOT OF THE

1:34:26AMENITIES.

1:34:27THAT BEING SAID, A NUMBER OF

1:34:29PEOPLE AT UH CITIZENS INPUT UH

1:34:32,TALKED ABOUT UH, I CAME HERE

1:34:34FOR FOR FOR PEACE AND QUIET AND

1:34:37FOR A SMALL UH UM.

1:34:40YOU KNOW.

1:34:41>> COMMUNITY WELL THAT THE

1:34:43HOMEWORK MUST NOT HAVE BEEN

1:34:44DONE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT A

1:34:47BEDROOM COMMUNITY.

1:34:49WE'RE NOT A SMALL UM, PEACEFUL

1:34:52MAYBERRY.

1:34:53WE'RE WE'RE THE SECOND LARGEST

1:34:56GEOGRAPHIC CITY IN THE STATE OF

1:34:58FLORIDA.

1:35:00THAT'S WHAT THAT IS WHAT CAPE

1:35:02CORAL IS.

1:35:03NOW IF WE WANT TO SUBDIVIDE

1:35:05THAT, MAKE IT INTO DIFFERENT

1:35:06CITIES OR THAT WOULD REQUIRE A

1:35:08WHOLE LOT OF LEGISLATION AND A

1:35:09WHOLE LOT OF ACTION.

1:35:11BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS

1:35:13IT'S 120MI2 CITY.

1:35:16THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT'S

1:35:18IN THE TOP TEN MOST POPULATED

1:35:19CITIES IN THE STATE.

1:35:23THAT'S THE WAY WE ARE FORCED TO

1:35:26HAVE TO THINK.

1:35:27AND TO.

1:35:28PLAN FOR AND TO DEAL WITH.

1:35:31THAT IS THE FACT.

1:35:34SO SO TO THINK THAT THIS AREA

1:35:38WAS NOT GOING TO GROW AND

1:35:40WASN'T GOING TO NEED DIFFERENT

1:35:42THINGS AS IT UM AS IT GREW UH

1:35:46IS IS JUST IT'S A FALLACY.

1:35:48SO FOR US TO UM LOOK AT WHAT

1:35:51WILL BE DONE WITH THE YACHT

1:35:53CLUB AS A PUBLIC AMENITY, WE

1:35:55HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AS A PUBLIC

1:35:57AMENITY FOR WHERE WE ARE TODAY

1:35:59AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN

1:35:59THE FUTURE, NOT TO WHERE WE

1:36:01WERE 6070 YEARS AGO.

1:36:05AND SO, UH, THE TOUGH PART

1:36:08COMES IN TO HOW DO YOU MAKE ALL

1:36:11THIS WORK FINANCIALLY.

1:36:13AND SO INITIALLY THE PUSHBACK

1:36:16UM, HERE'S WHAT COULD BE DONE

1:36:18TO REBUILD AND REVITALIZE THE

1:36:20YACHT CLUB.

1:36:21THE PUSHBACK WAS HEY, THAT'S

1:36:24ALL GREAT.

1:36:25THAT'S ALL BRAND BUT WHERE'S

1:36:26THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM?

1:36:28AND THAT'S ALL WE HEARD YOU

1:36:31KNOW AND IT WENT IT WENT FROM

1:36:32OH IT'S 88 MILLION IT'S 500

1:36:34MILLION IT'S AND NO ONE HAD THE

1:36:36EXACT NUMBER AND OF COURSE

1:36:38UNTIL A FINAL DECISION IS MADE

1:36:39ON WHAT WILL BE THERE WON'T BE

1:36:40AN EXACT NUMBER BUT IT WASN'T

1:36:43THAT THE THAT THAT FACILITY

1:36:44WOULDN'T BE.

1:36:45GREAT IT WAS IT THAT FACILITY

1:36:47WAS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY

1:36:49EXPENSIVE AND HOW ARE WE GOING

1:36:51TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT?

1:36:54SO THE CALL WAS AND ACTUALLY

1:36:57SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND

1:36:59SOME UH EVEN AT LEAST ONE

1:37:00COUNCIL MEMBER SAID LET'S GET

1:37:02OUT OF THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS

1:37:03AND JUST SELL THE LAND.

1:37:05THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY

1:37:07ABOUT ANY OF IT BEING TAXPAYER

1:37:09DOLLARS SO JUST SELL IT OFF.

1:37:11WELL GUESS WHAT IF WE DO THAT

1:37:13THEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING

1:37:14TO HAPPEN TO THE LAND.

1:37:15YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'LL

1:37:17HAVE BEACH ACCESS OR NOT.

1:37:18YOU WON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL HAVE A

1:37:20MARINA OR YOU WON'T.

1:37:22SO I FOR ONE WAS TOTALLY

1:37:24AGAINST THAT IDEA BUT INSTEAD

1:37:27LET'S GET SOMEONE ELSE LET'S

1:37:28GET THE.

1:37:30THE THE COMMERCIAL WORLD TO

1:37:32COME IN AND INVEST THEIR OWN

1:37:33MONEY.

1:37:35WELL THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET

1:37:36THEM TO INVEST THEIR OWN MONEY

1:37:38IS IF IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT

1:37:39FOR THEM.

1:37:39SO THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME WAY

1:37:41FOR THEM TO MAKE MONEY WHERE IT

1:37:43MAKES SENSE TO MAKE THAT TYPE

1:37:45OF AN INVESTMENT AND QUITE

1:37:48FRANKLY THE FACT THAT SOMEONE'S

1:37:49WILLING TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT

1:37:50THAT'S REQUIRED LIKE THIS.

1:37:51AND NOT OWN THE LAND.

1:37:55ACTUALLY IS AMAZING TO ME.

1:37:58IMAGINE DISNEY WORLD BUILDING

1:38:00DISNEY WORLD AND NOT OWNING THE

1:38:01LAND.

1:38:02SO UM SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS IT

1:38:05THEN BOILS DOWN TO IF WE USE A

1:38:07P3 WE ALLOW SOMEONE ELSE'S

1:38:10MONEY TO COME IN AND REVITALIZE

1:38:13THAT THEN THEN WHAT WOULD THAT

1:38:14LOOK LIKE IF THEY DID IT?

1:38:15WHEN I LOOK AT THE TWO

1:38:17PROPOSALS UH, FOR ME AND AND I

1:38:21BELIEVE WHAT IS BEING ASKED FOR

1:38:24TODAY IS NOT TO MAKE A DECISION

1:38:26ON WHETHER TO DO IT OR NOT BUT

1:38:30INSTEAD WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE

1:38:32TO TAKE A LOOK AT IF WE WERE TO

1:38:33DO IT HOW HOW HAVE THE FINANCES

1:38:36OF IT BEEN HONED DOWN?

1:38:38WHAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE THE

1:38:41REVENUES?

1:38:41HOW WHAT WOULD THE TIMING BE?

1:38:43WHAT WOULD THE CONSTRUCTIONS

1:38:44GOOD.

1:38:45ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL NOT

1:38:46HAPPEN UNLESS WE GIVE

1:38:48DIRECTION.

1:38:49HEY YOU KNOW WHAT OF THESE TWO

1:38:52HERE'S WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE

1:38:53BETTER OF THE TWO.

1:38:54LET'S AT LEAST PUT A FINER

1:38:57TOOTH COMB TO THIS AND SEE WHAT

1:38:59IT ACTUALLY WOULD BE LIKE IF WE

1:39:01MADE THAT DECISION.

1:39:02IT'S NOT A DECISION TO DO IT OR

1:39:04NOT.

1:39:04IT'S A DECISION TO GET MORE

1:39:06REFINED IN HOW IT WOULD BE DONE

1:39:09AND WHICH ONE WOULD WE PREFER

1:39:12TO TAKE THAT STEP WITH?

1:39:14I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT'S BEING

1:39:15ASKED OF US TODAY.

1:39:16SO FOR ME, IF I WERE TO CHOOSE

1:39:19ONE OF THE TWO UM IT WOULD IT

1:39:22WOULD BE THE K AND B PROPOSAL

1:39:25FOR A FEW DIFFERENT REASONS THE

1:39:28THE FOREST PROPOSAL UM HAS A

1:39:33FEW FLAWS IN IT FOR ME AT LEAST

1:39:35FOR ME.

1:39:36UH AND THE NUMBER ONE FLOOR IS

1:39:40UH IS THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT

1:39:41THERE UM, THAT IS SELLING OFF

1:39:44THE PROPERTY THAT IS REMOVING

1:39:49FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN ALL OF

1:39:51THE TRAILER PARKING TO LAUNCH

1:39:52BOATS.

1:39:54NOWHERE IN THEIR PLAN DO I SEE

1:39:56A PLACE TO ACTUALLY PUT THE THE

1:39:59THE THE AUTOMOBILES OR TRUCKS

1:40:01AND THE TRAILERS.

1:40:02FROM THE FROM THE.

1:40:03BOATS THAT WOULD BE LAUNCHED

1:40:05AND IT ALSO PUTS THE LAUNCH

1:40:08BACK OUT IN HARM'S WAY.

1:40:10ANYONE THAT EVER LAUNCHED OUT

1:40:11THERE WHEN THE WIND WAS COMING

1:40:12OUT OF THE SOUTH UH SOUTH

1:40:15SOUTHWEST KNOW THAT IT WAS

1:40:16MURDEROUS TO LAUNCH YOUR BOAT

1:40:18AND TO RETRIEVE YOUR BOAT WHEN

1:40:20THE WINDS WERE COMING FROM THAT

1:40:21DIRECTION.

1:40:21THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS

1:40:23WHY, UH, THE PLAN WAS TO BRING

1:40:25THAT LAUNCH INSIDE OF SAFE

1:40:27HARBOR SO THAT IT WAS SAFER TO

1:40:29LAUNCH AND RETRIEVE THE BOATS

1:40:30AND SAFER FOR THE BOATERS TO

1:40:33GET ON AND OFF THEIR VESSELS.

1:40:34UM, SO THAT PUTS IT BACK OUT IN

1:40:36HARM'S WAY AND SITTING RIGHT

1:40:38NEXT TO THE PEOPLE, UH,

1:40:40ENJOYING THE BEACH THERE, WHICH

1:40:41IS A SAFETY HAZARD ANOTHER

1:40:43REASON WHY I GOT MOVED.

1:40:44SO THAT GOT MOVED BACK OUT AND

1:40:46I SEE NO, UH, ACCOMMODATION FOR

1:40:50THE TRAILERS THAT WOULD LAUNCH

1:40:51THE BOATS THERE.

1:40:52UH, THERE IS UH, A BOAT STORAGE

1:40:55FACILITY THERE.

1:40:57FABULOUS IDEA I LOVE IT.

1:41:00WE CAN'T HAVE IT.

1:41:01I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY KNOW

1:41:03THAT OR NOT, BUT WE CAN'T.

1:41:05HAVE IT.

1:41:06>> THE MANATEE RULES IN OUR

1:41:08AREA REQUIRE ONLY A CERTAIN

1:41:10NUMBER OF SLIPS IN OUR CITY.

1:41:15WE HAVE OVER THE YEARS HAD TO

1:41:17MOVE THOSE SLIP ALLOCATIONS IF

1:41:19YOU WILL AS PROJECTS DEVELOP.

1:41:24BUT THERE'S A TOTAL NUMBER THAT

1:41:26WE CAN HAVE AND THOSE SLIPS.

1:41:29ACTUALLY COUNT.

1:41:30THE PARKING SPACES FOR TRAILERS

1:41:33AS WELL AS.

1:41:34ANY STACKED.

1:41:36STORAGE BECAUSE AS FAR AS THOSE

1:41:41INVOLVED IN PROTECTING THE

1:41:42MANATEES ARE CONCERNED, IF

1:41:43THERE'S A SPOT FOR A BOAT IT

1:41:46CAN CAUSE HARM TO A MANATEE.

1:41:49SO GREAT IDEA BUT WE DON'T HAVE

1:41:52THE SLIP ALLOCATION THAT WOULD

1:41:54ALLOW IT.

1:41:55SO UM SO FOR THOSE REASONS UH,

1:41:59I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT UH

1:42:02WHAT A FINER TOOTH COMB

1:42:06PROPOSAL WOULD LOOK LIKE.

1:42:08WHAT TIMING WOULD LOOK LIKE,

1:42:10WHAT FINANCE GUARANTEEING WOULD

1:42:12LOOK LIKE UH, A MUCH MORE UH,

1:42:15REFINED BUDGET AND FOR US TO GO

1:42:18DOWN THAT ROAD, UH, TO TAKE A

1:42:20LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO

1:42:21HAVE SOMEONE ELSE INVEST THEIR

1:42:23MONEY TO GIVE THE AMENITIES

1:42:25THAT THAT PEOPLE LOVED BUT THEY

1:42:29DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY

1:42:30ON IT.

1:42:31WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO LET

1:42:32SOMEONE ELSE SPEND THEIR MONEY

1:42:34ON IT, WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT

1:42:35THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

1:42:36NOT SAYING YES OR NO TODAY BUT

1:42:39LET'S TAKE LET'S TAKE THE NEXT

1:42:40STEP AT SEEING WHAT IT WOULD

1:42:42TAKE TO USE SOMEONE ELSE'S

1:42:43MONEY RATHER THAN TAXPAYER

1:42:44MONEY TO PROVIDE THOSE TYPES OF

1:42:46AMENITIES TO OUR CITY.

1:42:48THANK YOU.

1:42:49MAYOR.

1:42:50COUNCIL MEMBER Q.

1:42:51THANK YOU MAYOR.

1:42:53SO WE SOLD THE SEVEN ISLANDS

1:42:56AND WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S

1:42:57HAPPENING THERE.

1:42:58SO THAT.

1:42:58COMPLETELY DEBUNKS WHAT YOU

1:42:59JUST SAID.

1:43:01A FEW THINGS ON PAGE TWO I HAVE

1:43:04A QUESTION.

1:43:15SO ON PAGE TWO NUMBER THREE I

1:43:19JUST THIS IS LIKE WITH THE

1:43:20CONSISTENCIES THAT

1:43:22COUNCILMEMBER LONG HAS BROUGHT

1:43:22UP IN THE PAST, YOU SAID THAT

1:43:25THEY PAID THEIR $25,000 PAYMENT

1:43:27AND THEN IN NUMBER FOUR YOU'RE

1:43:29TALKING ABOUT CAN BE AND YOU

1:43:30NEVER MENTIONED ANY PAYMENT AND

1:43:31THEN YOU SCROLL DOWN TO NUMBER

1:43:33SIX AND THEN YOU MENTIONED

1:43:34FORREST'S $25,000 PAYMENT AGAIN

1:43:36.

1:43:37SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY

1:43:38THERE'S AN INCONSISTENCY AND IT

1:43:39CAN BE PAID THEIR $25,000

1:43:40PAYMENT.

1:43:41OKAY BE DID PAID $25,000 SORRY

1:43:44IT WASN'T ON THIS PAGE.

1:43:45OKAY AND PAGE THREE WE HAD A

1:43:50SPEAKER THIS MORNING IN PUBLIC

1:43:52INPUT.

1:43:53ASK AND I BELIEVE THE CITY

1:43:55MANAGER TRIED TO RESPOND I.

1:43:57BELIEVE THE REAL QUESTION IS

1:43:58AND NUMBER SEVEN BOTH PROPOSALS

1:44:00WERE DEEMED QUALIFIED PROJECTS

1:44:03.

1:44:03WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO

1:44:04DETERMINE THAT THEY ARE

1:44:06QUALIFIED PROJECTS IS WHAT I

1:44:08BELIEVE THE QUESTION IS.

1:44:12THE QUALIFIED PROJECT IS.

1:44:15THE YACHT CLUB AREA.

1:44:17THE PROPOSALS ARE DEEMED

1:44:19QUALIFIED FOR THE PURPOSE

1:44:22ASSOCIATED WITH A QUALIFIED

1:44:23PROJECT.

1:44:26OKAY I MEAN WHAT DO YOU WANT

1:44:28FROM ME THAT'S I CAN TELL YOU

1:44:30IF ALREADY YOU'RE IDENTIFYING

1:44:32QUALIFIED PROJECTS FOR THIS IS.

1:44:34PUBLIC PROPERTY.

1:44:35SO IT'S YACHT CLUB IT'S PUBLIC

1:44:37PROPERTY.

1:44:37THAT'S OUR.

1:44:38>> PROPERTY SO IT'S THAT THAT

1:44:39IS THE THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF

1:44:40IT AND THEY HAVE SUBMITTED

1:44:44PROPOSALS.

1:44:44FOR PUBLIC.

1:44:45PROPERTY THAT MEET THE THAT

1:44:48WILL.

1:44:48PROVIDE THE.

1:44:50UH APPLICATION.

1:44:52THAT MEET THE PUBLIC PURPOSE

1:44:55ASSOCIATED WITH THE WITH THE

1:44:56PROPOSALS.

1:44:57SO IT'S A PUBLIC PURPOSE ISSUE

1:44:58.

1:44:59SO YOU'VE.

1:45:00IDENTIFIED THEM AS QUALIFIED.

1:45:02YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THE

1:45:03PARK IS QUALIFIED PROJECT.

1:45:06WE PUT OUT AN RFP FOR THE EXACT

1:45:08SAME INFORMATION THAT ACTUALLY.

1:45:09>> CAME IN FROM THE.

1:45:11UNSOLICITED P3 NOT NOT

1:45:14INCLUDING A HOTEL AND THAT

1:45:16WE'VE NOW RECEIVED PROPOSALS

1:45:18THAT MEET THE PUBLIC PURPOSE

1:45:20PARKING.

1:45:21BOAT RAMPS.

1:45:23MARINA ETC. SO THEY'RE DEEMED

1:45:26QUALIFIED PROJECTS FOR THAT

1:45:27PURPOSE.

1:45:27OKAY SO.

1:45:28THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT GETS

1:45:30YOU TO THAT POINT.

1:45:30THE OKAY, I.

1:45:32JUST I HAVE TO ADD TO WHAT YOU

1:45:33SAID SURE.

1:45:34>> GO AHEAD.

1:45:35THE PROCESS IS DEFINED BY

1:45:37STATUTE.

1:45:38SO IF THERE'S A QUESTION IF

1:45:39THERE'S A CHALLENGE TO THE

1:45:41PROCESS THAT THIS CITY

1:45:45ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL HAVE

1:45:46TAKEN TO DEEM IT A QUALIFYING

1:45:48PUBLIC PROCESS, YOU SHOULD ASK

1:45:50THAT OF ALEX BECAUSE WE HAVE

1:45:52FOLLOWED THE PROCESS AND WE

1:45:55HAVE A RESOLUTION OUT THERE

1:45:57DEEMING IT A QUALIFYING PUBLIC

1:45:58PROJECT SO THE PROCESS IS

1:46:00ALREADY DONE.

1:46:02AWESOME.

1:46:02>> THANK YOU.

1:46:03SO THEN WE RECEIVED OUR SECOND

1:46:06AND UPDATED PROPOSAL FROM FORCE

1:46:08DEVELOPMENT IN CDBG IN JUNE I

1:46:11GUESS WHY IS THIS COMING TO US

1:46:13TWO MONTHS LATER NOW IF WE HAD

1:46:16BOTH IN.

1:46:18BECAUSE WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE BEEN

1:46:20ANALYZING THE INFORMATION

1:46:22PUTTING TOGETHER THIS

1:46:23PARTICULAR.

1:46:23PROPOSAL OVER THAT PERIOD OF

1:46:25TIME UNTIL THIS DATE WHEN WE

1:46:27HAD A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.

1:46:28AVAILABLE IN ORDER TO PUT IT ON

1:46:29TO OKAY.

1:46:31AND IF WE CHOOSE TO GO ONE WAY

1:46:33OR ANOTHER, UM, SHOULDN'T WE

1:46:36WAIT FOR THE PHASE TWO CIVIL

1:46:38SITE WORK AT THE YACHT CLUB

1:46:39BECAUSE IS THAT WHAT WE HAD

1:46:42BEFORE DID NOT HAVE A HOTEL ON

1:46:43IT?

1:46:48RIGHT?

1:46:49>> A AT THIS POINT I AGREE I

1:46:50MEAN IT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

1:46:53US COMING IN AND BUILDING ALL

1:46:55OF THE PHASE TWO UH OR I'M

1:46:57SORRY THE PHASE TWO CIVIL SITE

1:46:59WORK.

1:47:00YEAH.

1:47:00>> AND I I'M NOT.

1:47:01QUALIFIED TO.

1:47:01>> ANSWER THE QUESTION.

1:47:02I MEAN, I THINK ONE OF THE

1:47:03ENGINEERS WOULD HAVE TO COME UP

1:47:04HERE AND TALK ABOUT.

1:47:04HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT WITH

1:47:07THESE TWO PROPOSALS.

1:47:08I DON'T HAVE.

1:47:08>> AN ANSWER FOR THAT.

1:47:09YEAH.

1:47:10>> ABOUT A MONTH AGO I SENT AN

1:47:11EMAIL AND COUNCIL HAS IT UM

1:47:12THIS IS SUPPOSED TO COME TO

1:47:14COUNCIL IN OCTOBER FOR A VOTE

1:47:15FOR THE SITE WORK BECAUSE WE

1:47:16HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT YET.

1:47:18SO I WAS JUST WONDERING LIKE IF

1:47:20WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD

1:47:21WITH THIS, MAYBE WE SHOULD.

1:47:22>> HOLD OFF ON THE CIVIL SITE

1:47:23WORK BECAUSE AGAIN IT DOESN'T

1:47:24HAVE A HOTEL, IT DOESN'T HAVE

1:47:25SOME OF THIS STUFF.

1:47:26SO I JUST I DON'T KNOW.

1:47:29IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE

1:47:32ENGINEER.

1:47:37GOOD MORNING MAYOR COUNCIL

1:47:38JOHN.

1:47:38MR. STARK UH, FACILITIES

1:47:40PROJECT MANAGER UM.

1:47:43CERTAINLY UH THE DIRECTION OF

1:47:46HOW WE PROCEED WITH POTENTIALLY

1:47:47ANY OF THESE, UM, PROPOSALS

1:47:49WILL AFFECT GMP TO UM, CERTAIN

1:47:53UM THINGS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO

1:47:55BE RELOOKED AT SUCH AS, YOU

1:47:57KNOW, WATER DEMANDS, SEWER

1:47:58DEMANDS, ELECTRICAL DEMANDS

1:47:59THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

1:48:00UM BUT FROM A UM I GUESS A

1:48:03WHOLE UH, PERSPECTIVE THE UH,

1:48:06CAN BE A PROPOSAL SEEMS TO

1:48:10ALIGN UH, MORE.

1:48:11CORRECTLY OR MORE UH, DIRECTLY

1:48:13WITH UM HOW WE'RE GOING FORWARD

1:48:16WITH THE GMP CIVIL WORK AT THIS

1:48:17TIME.

1:48:19OKAY.

1:48:19>> THANK YOU.

1:48:20AND UM, I GUESS MARK, WE DIDN'T

1:48:23RECEIVE ANY ACCOUNTING OR

1:48:24PERFORMERS ON EITHER.

1:48:25>> ONE OF THESE SO IT'S TOUGH

1:48:26FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION.

1:48:27YOU DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY WHAT.

1:48:29PERFORMANCE PERFORMANCE?

1:48:32>> YEAH ON EITHER ONE OF THESE.

1:48:33IT'S JUST.

1:48:34>> LIKE.

1:48:34THE PRESENTATION.

1:48:35>> OF IT THE THE PRIMARY

1:48:37PURPOSE HERE ISN'T TO, YOU

1:48:38KNOW, MAKE A DETERMINATION OF

1:48:40YOU KNOW, WHETHER ONE IS GOING

1:48:41TO PROVIDE SOMETHING ELSE.

1:48:42YOU DID RECEIVE THEIR PROPOSAL

1:48:44ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD SHARE

1:48:45REVENUE WITH YOU.

1:48:4799 YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO MAKE

1:48:49A DETERMINATION OF WHAT THAT

1:48:50POTENTIAL PROFORMA WOULD BE.

1:48:51>> OF.

1:48:52COURSE, EVEN ON A FIVE YEAR

1:48:53BASIS.

1:48:53UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT'S

1:48:56THERE'S THERE'S MORE THINGS

1:48:58THAT GO INTO THIS THAT WERE NOT

1:48:59INCLUDED IN THE IN THE PROPOSAL

1:49:00TO ACTUALLY IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE

1:49:03PERFORMANCE WOULD BE.

1:49:04SO IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE THE

1:49:07DECISION IS MORE HOW YOU WOULD

1:49:10APPROACH THIS IF YOU WANT A A

1:49:13DEVELOPMENT THAT MEETS THE

1:49:14TERMS I PERSONALLY DID NOT KNOW

1:49:16ABOUT OF THE BOAT STORAGE UH ME

1:49:19PERSONALLY UH BUT YOU KNOW IF

1:49:21YOU CAN'T DO A BOAT STORAGE ON

1:49:23ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THEN YOU

1:49:24KNOW THAT CHANGES THE DYNAMIC.

1:49:26>> OF.

1:49:26WHATEVER THE PROPOSAL WAS.

1:49:27UH, AT THE SAME TIME, UH, FOR

1:49:30YOU YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

1:49:32ONE ONE DEVIATE SIGNIFICANTLY

1:49:34FROM THE FROM THE YOUR VISION

1:49:36OF WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR

1:49:37THE YACHT CLUB.

1:49:38THE OTHER ONE DOES NOT.

1:49:40AND SO THE CHOICE FOR YOU IS IS

1:49:43DO WE WANT TO GO WITH WHAT OUR

1:49:45ORIGINAL VISION WAS OR DO WE

1:49:46WANT TO DEVIATE FROM THAT OR DO

1:49:48WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING

1:49:49DIFFERENT?

1:49:50AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

1:49:51THE FORMA PORTION.

1:49:53HERE IS IT REALLY THE THE

1:49:54DRIVER ASSOCIATED WITH UH

1:49:56MAKING A DETERMINATION OF WHICH

1:49:58WAY TO GO?

1:49:59THANK YOU.

1:50:00AND ON THE DRY DOCK STORAGE

1:50:01WHICH I THINK IS A BRILLIANT

1:50:02IDEA IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND

1:50:04MR. CITY MANAGER, MAYBE YOU CAN

1:50:05JUMP IN THAT.

1:50:06>> WE WOULD.

1:50:07>> DO A SLIP TRANSFER.

1:50:08WE'VE DONE IT WITH OTHER

1:50:09PROJECTS.

1:50:12YOU COULD YOU COULD DO A SLIP

1:50:14TRANSFER.

1:50:15YOU WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE

1:50:16ENTIRE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS

1:50:18PERMIT UH, WHICH COULD GET US

1:50:19AT LEAST ANOTHER TWO YEARS OF

1:50:22MODIFICATIONS.

1:50:22THOSE SLIPS WOULD HAVE TO BE

1:50:24IDENTIFIED.

1:50:25WE DON'T HAVE THAT QUANTITY

1:50:27AVAILABLE.

1:50:28SO I KNOW THAT'S OKAY.

1:50:28I JUST WANTED IT.

1:50:30IT'S POSSIBLE THAT'S ALL.

1:50:32SO THE DISCUSSION.

1:50:34BUT THE POINT CAME FROM A

1:50:35DISCUSSION WE HAD THAT WE DO

1:50:37NOT THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE

1:50:39WE'VE TRANSFERRED THE SLIPS IN

1:50:42TO GET THE YACHT CLUB MARINA

1:50:44PERMIT THAT WE HAVE.

1:50:45YEAH.

1:50:46>> SO SOMEWHERE THEY WOULD HAVE

1:50:47TO GENERATE SLIPS TO BE ABLE TO

1:50:50DO THAT.

1:50:51AND THE POINT WAS WE DON'T HAVE

1:50:53THAT AND IT WOULD IT WOULD

1:50:55COMPLETELY UPEND THE ENTIRE

1:50:56ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS PERMIT.

1:50:58AND JUST ONE MORE POINT ON

1:50:59COUNCIL MEMBER STANKY IF WE

1:51:01SOLD THE PROPERTY WE SOLD THE

1:51:04YACHT CLUB AND I'M NOT SAYING

1:51:04I'M FOR THAT.

1:51:05LET'S BE VERY CLEAR HERE WE

1:51:08COULD PUT DEED RESTRICTIONS IN

1:51:09PLACE TO.

1:51:10STILL HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS TO

1:51:11THE.

1:51:11PIER.

1:51:12>> THE BEACH WHEREVER.

1:51:15CORRECT, MR. CITY ATTORNEY?

1:51:17YEAH.

1:51:17>> WE CAN.

1:51:18>> CONTROL ACCESSIBILITY FOR

1:51:20THE PUBLIC AND WHAT POTENTIAL

1:51:22USES?

1:51:22UH, I WOULDN'T DO IT BY DEED

1:51:24RESTRICTION AND PROBABLY MORE

1:51:25OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT,

1:51:26WHICH IS WHAT WE DO WITH

1:51:27SOUTHERN ISLAND.

1:51:27EXACTLY.

1:51:28>> YOU JUST DROVE.

1:51:29>> MY POINT HOME THAT WE SOLD

1:51:30THE PROPERTY FOR THE SEVEN

1:51:31ISLANDS AND WE KNOW EXACTLY

1:51:32WHAT IS.

1:51:33GOING THERE.

1:51:33>> THAT IS ALL.

1:51:34THANK YOU.

1:51:36COUNCILMEMBER UH DOWN THOUGH

1:51:37SINCE YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN I'LL

1:51:39LET YOU GO FIRST.

1:51:42UH, THANKS.

1:51:43>> FOR BEING HERE.

1:51:44SO LET'S LET'S.

1:51:45KIND OF PUT SOME.

1:51:47FOLKS AT EASE.

1:51:48WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY THE.

1:51:49MAJORITY OF THE SPEAKERS AND

1:51:50WHAT I BEGINNING.

1:51:51FROM THE.

1:51:52>> PUBLIC IS THIS IDEA OF.

1:51:53THE TWO PROPOSALS.

1:51:54AND THANK YOU.

1:51:54UH, THE PROCESS.

1:51:56ITSELF WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING IT

1:51:58THROUGH.

1:51:59WE PUT THE P-3 OUT JUST.

1:52:00>> TO SEE.

1:52:01BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN, UM,

1:52:02GRAPPLING WITH THIS.

1:52:04IT WAS THE ONE THAT'S OUTSIDE

1:52:05OF THE VISION.

1:52:07THE ONE WITH THE SEVEN STORY

1:52:08HOTEL.

1:52:08THAT'S THAT'S NOT THAT THAT'S A

1:52:10NONSTARTER FOR ME AND I'M KIND

1:52:11OF HEARING THAT.

1:52:12SO THAT PIECE I THINK YOU CAN

1:52:14KIND OF JUST PUT THAT TO THE

1:52:15SIDE THE ONE ABOUT K BEAM UM

1:52:20WHICH THE PURPOSE OF THIS WHICH

1:52:22IS DIFFICULTY FOR ME COUNCIL IS

1:52:25THE TIMING PIECE BECAUSE WE

1:52:28HAVE A JOB TO DO.

1:52:29HOWEVER IF WE MOVE ANYTHING

1:52:32FORWARD IT DOESN'T MATTER.

1:52:33I THINK THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE

1:52:35GOT INTO THE SITUATION.

1:52:36FIRST WE MOVE SOMETHING

1:52:37FORWARD, THEN YOU HAVE A CHANGE

1:52:39IN LEADERSHIP AND THEN WE STOP

1:52:40IT.

1:52:41THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO I

1:52:43DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SEE THAT

1:52:44HAPPEN.

1:52:45SO FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS AND

1:52:49TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, WE

1:52:50STILL HAVEN'T DEALT WITH

1:52:51SCALING IT BACK.

1:52:51ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED

1:52:53ABOUT FOR ME IS SCALING IT BACK

1:52:55BECAUSE I'M HEARING YOU THE

1:52:56COMMUNITY CENTER IS A GO.

1:52:57THE COMMUNITY POOL IS A GO BUT

1:53:00WE HAVEN'T REALLY SOLVE THE

1:53:02ISSUE OF THE PARKING.

1:53:03YOU ALL KNOW WE HAVE TO HAVE

1:53:04PARKING THEM AND WE HAVE TO DO

1:53:05SOMETHING.

1:53:06WE HAVEN'T REALLY COME TO A

1:53:09CONSENSUS AS A COMMUNITY AT

1:53:11LEAST I HAVEN'T HEARD IT.

1:53:12SO WHAT I'M SAYING THE COUNCIL

1:53:13IS I MEAN FOR ME UH THAT THAT

1:53:17OTHER ONE THE AND AGAIN THANK

1:53:19YOU ALL FOR WANTING TO DO

1:53:21SOMETHING FOR US.

1:53:21THEY DIDN'T WORK WITH US BUT

1:53:22THE SEVEN STORY IS JUST A NO GO

1:53:24AND NONSTARTER.

1:53:25BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK WE MOVE

1:53:27FORWARD WITH THE K AND B UM.

1:53:30JUST TO STOP IT IN TWO WEEKS.

1:53:33THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO

1:53:34ME.

1:53:34UM BUT WITHOUT JUST TRYING TO

1:53:37SAY IT I'M JUST SAYING WE STILL

1:53:38NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE SCOPE OF

1:53:40THE POOL AND THIS CONVENTION

1:53:42CENTER AND THIS HOTEL THING IS

1:53:44NOT A IT'S A NONSTARTER FOR ME

1:53:45.

1:53:46I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS YOU

1:53:48TOO.

1:53:48I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL IS

1:53:49ONE VOTE TO GIVE YOU JUST A

1:53:51RELEASE?

1:53:51UH, BUT STAY TUNED AND KEEPS

1:53:53COMING AND KEEP EMAILING AND

1:53:54LET US KNOW.

1:53:55BUT I WILL SAY THIS UM IT'S

1:53:58BEEN FOUR YEARS BUT THE WORST

1:54:00THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IS WE

1:54:01RUSH AND TRY TO GET SOMETHING

1:54:02DONE.

1:54:03I'M NOT THERE IF IT HAS TO TAKE

1:54:05A LONGER IT JUST TAKES LONGER

1:54:07TO GET IT RIGHT AND IT'S GOING

1:54:08TO IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE TIME

1:54:10.

1:54:10ALL RIGHT.

1:54:11THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR WE THANK

1:54:13YOU FOR COMING.

1:54:13THAT'S ALL.

1:54:14>> UH.

1:54:16>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEHMAN.

1:54:17YEAH.

1:54:18>> UM.

1:54:18>> QUESTION I.

1:54:22DON'T KNOW IF.

1:54:23MARK IF.

1:54:23YOU CAN ANSWER THIS OR IF

1:54:26MISTER CITY ATTORNEY CAN BE

1:54:28YOU'RE SAYING IN THEIR

1:54:30PAPERWORK THAT THEY'RE NOT

1:54:31REQUIRED TO HAVE A, UH.

1:54:34>> PER, UH, PAYMENT OR

1:54:36PERFORMANCE BOND?

1:54:38WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE

1:54:39REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE I

1:54:42DON'T WANT TO SEE HAPPEN WHAT

1:54:44HAPPENED TO JAYCEE PARK THAT WE

1:54:46STILL HAVE A CONCESSIONAIRE

1:54:47BUILDING THAT IS TOTALLY EMPTY.

1:54:50WE GOT NOTHING OUT OF THE DEAL

1:54:53BECAUSE IN THE LAST MINUTE THEY

1:54:56WALKED OUT.

1:54:57I WANT TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF

1:55:00GUARANTEES WE WOULD HAVE AND

1:55:02WHY THEY ARE NOT, UH, REQUIRED

1:55:05TO HAVE A PAYMENT OF

1:55:08PERFORMANCE BOND SO THAT IF

1:55:09THEY DON'T PERFORM WE'RE NOT

1:55:12SITTING THERE HOLDING THE BAG

1:55:13AGAIN.

1:55:16WHO NEEDS TO ANSWER THAT FOR

1:55:18ME?

1:55:18LET ME LET ME SEE IF I CAN TRY

1:55:20TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF

1:55:21CLARITY.

1:55:21UM.

1:55:22>> FOR THE.

1:55:24UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL FOR JAYCEE

1:55:26PARK, UH, THERE WAS A PAYMENT

1:55:28AND PERFORMANCE BOND THAT WAS

1:55:30FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE AGREEMENT

1:55:31FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE

1:55:33PROJECT.

1:55:33.

1:55:34THE DISTINCTION THAT THAT IS

1:55:36IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THE

1:55:37CONCESSIONAIRE.

1:55:38AGREEMENT WAS A SEPARATE AND

1:55:41DISTINCT PORTION OF THAT, UH,

1:55:44OF THAT PROCESS AND THAT'S WHY

1:55:47THEY WEREN'T BUILDING ANYTHING

1:55:48.

1:55:48THEY WERE JUST MERELY

1:55:50OPERATING.

1:55:50SO THAT'S THE DISTINCTION BEING

1:55:51MADE NOW IN REFERENCE TO THE

1:55:53PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP

1:55:55STATUTE THAT SET FORTH PURSUANT

1:55:56.

1:55:57>> TO FLORIDA LAW.

1:55:57THEY DO NOT HAVE TO DO A

1:55:59PAYMENT PERFORMANCE BOND FOR

1:56:00THEIR SUBMITTAL TO THE CITY OF

1:56:04THE UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL.

1:56:05BUT IF.

1:56:06WE WERE TO MOVE.

1:56:07FORWARD, IF THAT IS THE WILL OF

1:56:09THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO

1:56:12NEGOTIATE WITH THEM FOR A

1:56:14PROSPECTIVE COMPREHENSIVE

1:56:16AGREEMENT REGARDING THE

1:56:18DEVELOPMENT OF THE.

1:56:19OF THIS AREA, THEY WOULD IN

1:56:21FACT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A

1:56:23PAYMENT AND PERFORMANCE BOND

1:56:25FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE

1:56:26PROJECT'S VALUE.

1:56:28HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR

1:56:29QUESTION.

1:56:30YES IT DOES.

1:56:31THANK YOU.

1:56:32UM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE

1:56:34AS I SAY WHAT HAPPENED TO TRACY

1:56:36PARK.

1:56:37I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN

1:56:38AGAIN WITH THE CONCESSIONAIRE

1:56:41BUILDING THAT IT'S JUST SITTING

1:56:43EMPTY.

1:56:45UM, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH

1:56:48COUNCIL UH, WOMAN THAT THE SITE

1:56:51WORK NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED

1:56:52FIRST.

1:56:54UM.

1:56:55AND I.

1:56:56AGREE WITH A LOT.

1:56:57OF THE, UH, COMMENTS THAT

1:57:01COUNCIL MEMBER STANKY MADE TO

1:57:04THANK YOU.

1:57:07COUNCILMEMBER GEARING.

1:57:08YEAH.

1:57:09>> UH, MARK, IF YOU COULD.

1:57:11JUST.

1:57:12>> UH.

1:57:13>> COMPARE TO CITY INVESTMENT

1:57:15AND.

1:57:15EITHER PROPOSAL HOW MUCH THE

1:57:17CITY HAS INVESTED IN EITHER

1:57:19PROPOSAL CAN I.

1:57:22RIGHT NOW IT'S THE SEAWALL.

1:57:24JUST TO SEE YOU ALSO GREW UP TO

1:57:26LIKE 33 GRAND 2118 PLUS.

1:57:28OH SORRY.

1:57:28IT'S 22.7 MILLION FOR THE

1:57:31SEAWALL AND WE HAVE ABOUT $9

1:57:33MILLION IN DESIGN WORK.

1:57:34OKAY.

1:57:35>> YOU'RE UP ABOUT 3030, 33.

1:57:3735,000,036 MILLION.

1:57:38>> YEAH.

1:57:39>> OKAY.

1:57:39>> UM I.

1:57:41GUESS UH, WHERE I'M AT ON THIS

1:57:44THING RIGHT NOW IS THAT.

1:57:46IF WE CHOOSE ONE TO GO FORWARD

1:57:49AND WE WE SOMEWHERE IN THAT

1:57:52PROCESS CAN'T COME TO AGREEMENT

1:57:54AND IT'S HAPPENED TO US BEFORE

1:57:56WE GOT ALL RAISED IT BACK UP TO

1:57:58GO TO NUMBER TWO AND

1:58:00RENEGOTIATE WITH THAT ONE TOO.

1:58:02SO UM SOME THINGS THAT I WAS

1:58:04ENLIGHTENED ON THIS MORNING I

1:58:06DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.

1:58:07UH.

1:58:08>> THE UH.

1:58:10,UPLIFT STORAGE OF UH VESSELS.

1:58:13WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

1:58:15UH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT

1:58:17FEATURE, BUT IF THAT'S GOING TO

1:58:18BE A PROBLEM, I CAN SEE THAT.

1:58:20BEING A NEGATIVE IMPACT.

1:58:21UM, ALSO I I WANT TO MAKE SURE

1:58:25THAT, UH, WHAT WE DO IS RETAIN

1:58:29THE PROPERTY.

1:58:30UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A 99

1:58:32YEAR LEASE SHOULD STILL 99 YEAR

1:58:33LEASE.

1:58:34AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF ALL OF

1:58:36THE INVESTED PROPERTY REVERTS

1:58:39BACK TO THE CITY AND YOU KNOW,

1:58:41IT'S 90 YEARS 99 YEARS FROM NOW

1:58:44.

1:58:44UH, I MEAN, LOOK AT THE PANAMA

1:58:47CANAL AND WHERE THAT STOOD.

1:58:49SO, UH, IT WORKS.

1:58:51UH.

1:58:51I GUESS.

1:58:52THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THAT UM

1:58:55FROM A PRO FORMA STANDPOINT

1:58:56THAT'S PREMATURE AT THIS POINT

1:58:58AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY

1:58:59THINGS THAT NEED TO BE NAILED

1:59:00DOWN FROM A NEGOTIATING

1:59:02STANDPOINT WHEN WHERE WE'RE

1:59:04HEADED AND IN A COMPLEX PROJECT

1:59:06A PRO FORMA THAT TRIES TO

1:59:09PROJECT OUT BEYOND FIVE YEARS

1:59:10IS IS ABSURD.

1:59:13ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN WITHIN THAT

1:59:15TIME.

1:59:15SO UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LOOK

1:59:16FOR A PRO FORMA JUST KIND OF

1:59:18LINING OUT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS

1:59:19AND SOME, UH, GRANDIOSE

1:59:23PROVISIONS FOR LOOKING FURTHER

1:59:24THAN THAT.

1:59:25UH, BUT BUT I DON'T THINK

1:59:27THERE'S ANY, UM, RELIABILITY OR

1:59:29CONTINUITY MUCH BEYOND FIVE

1:59:31YEARS AND A PRO FORMA OF THIS

1:59:33SCALE AND SCOPE.

1:59:34UM, I GUESS I'M LEANING RIGHT

1:59:38NOW CAN BE, UH, BECAUSE OF

1:59:40THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WE SAW WITH

1:59:42RESPECT TO UH, THE TIMELINE

1:59:45THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED THE

1:59:47IMPACT ABILITY OF UH,

1:59:50RELOCATING UM, SOME OF THE

1:59:52SLIPS, UH, TO THAT AREA AND

1:59:53WHAT THAT WOULD UH, UH, REQUIRE

1:59:56FOR UH, A UH ARMY CORPS OF

1:59:59ENGINEERS UH, PERMANENT.

2:00:00SO THAT'S WHERE I'M LEANING

2:00:02RIGHT NOW.

2:00:02THANK YOU.

2:00:02MAYOR.

2:00:04ALL RIGHT.

2:00:05I GUESS I'LL JUMP IN HERE REAL

2:00:06QUICK.

2:00:08FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM, YOU

2:00:10KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS

2:00:11THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, REALIZE IS

2:00:15OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS THIS

2:00:19PARTICULAR LOCATION HAS, UH,

2:00:22SERVED OUR COMMUNITY WELL, UM,

2:00:25AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW

2:00:26IS FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS AND TO

2:00:29PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, I CAN

2:00:33ALMOST GUARANTEE THAT EVERY

2:00:35PERSON IN THIS ROOM WILL NOT

2:00:37MAKE THAT NEXT 50 YEARS.

2:00:39SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A

2:00:42DECISION IS FOR THE NEXT.

2:00:4750 YEARS AND ALL THE RESIDENTS

2:00:48OR A COMMUNITY OF 225,000 NOW

2:00:52WE WILL GROW TO A COMMUNITY OF

2:00:54400,000.

2:00:56AND I'VE SAID THIS TIME AGAIN,

2:00:57YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ALONG

2:00:59THE WAY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE OUR

2:01:01COMMUNITY GROW AS IT HAS BUT

2:01:04WE'RE A PRE PLANTED COMMUNITY.

2:01:06SO BACK IN THE LATE 50S EARLY

2:01:0960S WE WERE DESIGNED TO BE A

2:01:11COMMUNITY OF 400,000 PEOPLE.

2:01:14WHETHER WE WANT THAT OR NOT.

2:01:17THAT'S WHAT THE ROSEN BROTHERS

2:01:20DESIGNED BACK DURING THE VERY

2:01:22BEGINNING.

2:01:23AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE

2:01:25COME AND GO IN OUR COMMUNITY

2:01:27THAT SAID, WELL, I MOVED HERE

2:01:29BACK IN THE 60S OR 70S AND THE

2:01:32CITY HAS JUST GROWN PAST WHERE

2:01:35THEY WANT TO BE AND HOW THEY

2:01:36WANT TO LIVE.

2:01:38AND GUESS WHAT AT 225,000

2:01:41PEOPLE AND WE'RE GOING TO BE

2:01:43BUILT THAT TO 400,000, THAT'S

2:01:46GOING TO HAPPEN TIME AND TIME

2:01:47AGAIN UNFORTUNATELY.

2:01:51SO WHAT.

2:01:51>> OUR TASK.

2:01:53HERE IS TODAY FOR ME IS WHEN

2:01:56YOU LOOK AT THESE TWO

2:01:57PARTICULAR PROJECTS NEITHER ONE

2:01:59OF THEM ARE IDEAL.

2:02:02AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE

2:02:05TO TRY TO DO AND WHAT STAFF IS

2:02:07ASKING US TO DO IS TO PICK

2:02:11EITHER ONE OF THE.

2:02:13DEVELOPER'S PROPOSALS OR NONE

2:02:16OF THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH

2:02:20MORE SPECIFICITY OF WHAT THIS

2:02:22PROJECT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE

2:02:24TODAY I THINK WE ARE AT THE

2:02:2730,000 FOOT LEVEL LOOKING AT

2:02:29THESE PROJECTS THERE IS UH JUST

2:02:33A HOST OF MORE DETAILED

2:02:35INFORMATION.

2:02:36THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT FORTH

2:02:39FOR WHOEVER THE EIGHT PEOPLE

2:02:40WHO ARE SITTING ON THIS COUNCIL

2:02:42TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

2:02:43THIS DECISION WILL BE MADE

2:02:46TODAY.

2:02:47IT WON'T BE MADE BY THIS

2:02:48COUNCIL.

2:02:49IT WILL BE THE NEXT COUNCIL WHO

2:02:51WILL MAKE THAT DECISION.

2:02:53SO WHAT STAFF IS ASKING US IS

2:02:55AT THE 30,000 FOOT LEVEL.

2:02:58DO EITHER.

2:02:59>> ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES.

2:03:02LOOK LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE MORE

2:03:05DISCUSSION, RECEIVE MORE

2:03:07INFORMATION AND MORE DETAIL TO

2:03:09BRING BACK TO THAT FUTURE

2:03:11COUNCIL?

2:03:12THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HERE

2:03:13TODAY.

2:03:14WE'RE NOT HERE TO SAY YES OR

2:03:16NO.

2:03:16ALL WE'RE DOING IS DIRECTING

2:03:19STAFF.

2:03:19TO TAKE A.

2:03:20LOOK AT ONE OF THESE PROJECTS

2:03:23OR NONE OF THEM A LITTLE MORE

2:03:27IN DETAIL AND GET MORE

2:03:30SPECIFICITY.

2:03:30SO WHOEVER THE COUNCIL IS CAN

2:03:34MAKE A BETTER INFORMED DECISION

2:03:35.

2:03:36SO WHEN I LOOK AT THESE TWO

2:03:39PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, AND TRY TO

2:03:41TO TO WEIGH THE THE POSITIVE

2:03:45ASPECTS AND THE NEGATIVE

2:03:47ASPECTS OF EACH PROJECT TO SEE

2:03:50WHICH ONE HAS MORE POSITIVE

2:03:53ASPECTS.

2:03:54SO THAT'S WHAT I DID WHEN I

2:03:55READ THROUGH THE INFORMATION

2:03:58THAT STAFF HAS PROVIDED.

2:04:01NOW STAFF HAS MADE A

2:04:03RECOMMENDATION BUT WE ALL KNOW

2:04:05UH THE THE DECISION MAKERS ARE

2:04:07SITTING UP HERE AND THAT'S WHY

2:04:10WE'RE HERE TODAY.

2:04:11SO WHEN I LOOK AT THESE TWO

2:04:13PARTICULAR PROJECTS WHEN I GO

2:04:16BACK AND DO AS I ALL OF THE

2:04:18PUBLIC MEETINGS.

2:04:19>> THAT.

2:04:20WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST SEVERAL

2:04:22YEARS AND ALL OF THE PUBLIC

2:04:23INPUT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.

2:04:27WHICH ONE OF THESE TWO PROJECTS

2:04:31LINE UP WITH NOT ONLY THE

2:04:34DISCUSSION THAT THE LAST TWO

2:04:36COUNCILS HAVE HAD ON THIS

2:04:37PROJECT, BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC

2:04:39INPUT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL

2:04:41YEARS.

2:04:43SO WHEN I LOOK AT THESE

2:04:45PROJECTS, SOME OF THE NEGATIVE

2:04:48THINGS THAT I SEE WITH ONE

2:04:51DEVELOPER OVER ANOTHER IS BASED

2:04:53ON OUR PAST DISCUSSIONS IN THE

2:04:55PAST, COMMUNITY INPUT THAT

2:04:57WE'VE RECEIVED WITH FORCED UH

2:05:01DEVELOPMENT.

2:05:03SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I

2:05:04HAVE FOR THAT IS THE

2:05:06RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF OF

2:05:08THEIR.

2:05:09PROPOSAL THAT HAS NEVER EVER

2:05:13BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST

2:05:16THREE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN

2:05:17HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

2:05:18IT'S NEVER BEEN BROUGHT UP, UH

2:05:21,BY THE COUNCIL.

2:05:22IT'S NEVER BEEN BROUGHT UP.

2:05:24UM.

2:05:24>> BY THE COMMUNITY INPUT.

2:05:28UM.

2:05:29>> SO THAT FOR ME IS IS ONE OF

2:05:32THE NEGATIVES ONE OF THE OTHER

2:05:35NEGATIVES THAT I SEEN AND I

2:05:37BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER STANKY

2:05:38UH, BROUGHT IT UP AND I CAN

2:05:40HONESTLY SAY WHEN THE BOAT RAMP

2:05:43WAS ON THE RIVER I'VE HONESTLY

2:05:45PUT MY BOAT IN AND OUT OF THAT

2:05:47LOCATION SEVERAL TIMES ON A

2:05:50WINDY DAY OR IF A STORM POPS.

2:05:53UP IT WAS TREACHEROUS AND

2:05:57THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY

2:05:59WE DECIDED TO MOVE IT INLAND

2:06:01INTO THE HARBOR FOR FOR TO BE A

2:06:05MORE SAFE UH UH LAUNCHING AREA.

2:06:10WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF

2:06:11BUILDING THAT AS WE SPEAK.

2:06:14SO IN THIS PROPOSAL WHAT WE'RE

2:06:17SAYING IS IT'S SOMEWHERE WE'RE

2:06:19EITHER GOING TO BUILD IT OR

2:06:21STOP CONSTRUCTION AND THEN MOVE

2:06:23IT BACK OUT TO THE RIVER.

2:06:26AND MAKE THAT LAUNCH AND MY

2:06:29OPINION UH, MORE UNSAFE.

2:06:34THE OTHER THING THAT WE HEARD

2:06:36FROM THE RESIDENTS OVER THE

2:06:37LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS WE

2:06:40WANTED TO ENLARGE THE BEACH

2:06:41AREA.

2:06:42WELL, WE DID THAT BY MOVING THE

2:06:45RAMP FROM FROM THE RIVERSIDE

2:06:48INLAND.

2:06:49SO NOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

2:06:51IS GOING BACK AND MAKING THE

2:06:53BEACH SMALLER TO PUT THE RAMP

2:06:56ON THE OUTSIDE.

2:06:58SO I THINK THAT'S UH ANOTHER

2:07:01NEGATIVE ASPECT.

2:07:04THE OTHER CONCERN WHEN YOU LOOK

2:07:05AT THE RENDERINGS UM, AND I

2:07:07THINK THE INDOOR STORAGE OF

2:07:10BOATS IS A PHENOMENAL IDEAL

2:07:12THAT COUNCIL MEMBER STANKEY I

2:07:14BELIEVE MENTIONED.

2:07:16ALSO UM WE HAVE TRANSFER BOAT

2:07:20SLIPS FROM OTHER AREAS.

2:07:22UH, WE DO HAVE A CAP THROUGHOUT

2:07:24THE CITY THAT WE HAVE TO WORK

2:07:26WITH IN UH THIS APPEARS TO BE

2:07:29ABOUT A 6 TO 7 STORY FACILITY

2:07:33THAT'S SHOWN IN THE RENDERINGS.

2:07:35I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BOATS UH

2:07:37THAT THAT THAT WOULD HOLD, BUT

2:07:40YOU WOULD NEED TO AT A MINIMUM

2:07:41TRANSFER THOSE SLIPS AND AGAIN

2:07:44GO THROUGH ANOTHER ARMY CORPS

2:07:46PERMIT PROCESS.

2:07:48SO THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME AS

2:07:50WELL.

2:07:51UM, I THINK IT'S A PHENOMENAL

2:07:54IDEA.

2:07:54I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THAT

2:07:56LOCATION IS THE BEST LOCATION

2:07:57FOR IT.

2:07:59YOU KNOW LOOK AT THE

2:08:00RESIDENTIAL HOMES JUST AROUND

2:08:02THE YACHT CLUB AREA THAT THAT

2:08:04WOULD IMPACT AND YOU KNOW, IF

2:08:07YOU HAVE 50 TO 100 BOATS, AN

2:08:10INDOOR STORAGE AREA GOING UP

2:08:12AND DOWN EACH AND EVERY DAY, I

2:08:15THINK THAT WILL PROBABLY BE

2:08:17FAIRLY IMPACTFUL TO THE

2:08:20SURROUNDING RESIDENTS.

2:08:21UM, SOME OF THE OTHER CONCERNS.

2:08:24>> THAT I.

2:08:24HAVE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN

2:08:27SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED AND I

2:08:30HEARD THAT IN SOME OF THE

2:08:31CITIZENS INPUT COMMENTS TODAY

2:08:34IS I THINK WHATEVER GOES THERE

2:08:36AND THE ONLY WAY TO TO

2:08:39GUARANTEE THIS IS TO MOVE THIS

2:08:41PROCESS FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD

2:08:44TO HAVE SOME SPECIFICITY.

2:08:46I THINK THAT THE BEACH NEEDS TO

2:08:48BE.

2:08:49PUBLIC OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IN

2:08:52GENERAL SO THEY CAN ATTEND

2:08:55THAT.

2:08:55I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY

2:08:56IMPORTANT.

2:08:57UM, IT APPEARS.

2:08:59UM THAT THAT'S THE CASE IN BOTH

2:09:02OF THE PROPOSALS.

2:09:03BUT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE OF

2:09:06MORE DETAILS TO MAKE SURE

2:09:07THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR.

2:09:09I ALSO THINK THAT THE

2:09:11RECREATIONAL FACILITIES THAT UM

2:09:15THOSE PROPOSALS UH, HAVE PUT IN

2:09:20ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO SOME

2:09:22DEGREE AT A AN EXPENSE TO THE

2:09:26RESIDENTS WHERE THEY MAY HAVE A

2:09:30DIFFERENT RATE FOR RENTAL.

2:09:33UH, OR IF THE CITY ITSELF

2:09:36BECAUSE I CAN KNOW THAT THIS UH

2:09:39PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAVE WENT TO

2:09:41THE YACHT CLUB FOR A VARIETY OF

2:09:44MEETINGS SO WE WANT TO MAKE

2:09:45SURE THAT THAT FACILITY, UM, IS

2:09:49OPEN TO THE CITY AS WELL.

2:09:51AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S MORE

2:09:53DETAILS UH, THAT WE NEED TO

2:09:55HAVE BROUGHT BACK TO US THE

2:09:57COMMUNITY POOL.

2:09:59YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S

2:10:00IMPORTANT TO IS THIS GOING TO

2:10:02BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT NO

2:10:06EXPENSE IS THIS GOING TO BE

2:10:07OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WITH AN

2:10:09EXPENSE?

2:10:10YOU KNOW, I HAD HEARD EARLIER

2:10:12AND I'VE BEEN THERE SEVERAL

2:10:14TIMES MYSELF.

2:10:16UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GO OVER TO

2:10:18MARGARITAVILLE, IT'S OPEN TO

2:10:20THE PUBLIC AS LONG AS YOU GOT A

2:10:22CASH OR CARD IN YOUR HAND.

2:10:24SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO

2:10:26IDENTIFY WHAT OPEN TO THE

2:10:28PUBLIC REALLY MEANS.

2:10:30UM, SO I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW,

2:10:36FOR ME LOOKING AT THE TWO

2:10:38PROPOSALS, THE MORE POSITIVE

2:10:42ASPECTS OF THE PROPOSAL AND

2:10:45AGAIN, NEITHER ONE OF THEM ARE

2:10:46PERFECT UM, WOULD BE THE K AND

2:10:49B PROPOSAL.

2:10:51SO WHAT I WOULD DO WAS WOULD BE

2:10:54TO MOVE THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT

2:10:56FORWARD.

2:10:57SO STAFF.

2:10:58CAN SIT DOWN AND GET THE

2:11:01SPECIFICITIES AND THE DETAILS

2:11:03THAT NOT ONLY CITY COUNCIL

2:11:05NEEDS BUT FOR THE PUBLIC AND TO

2:11:07SEE IF EITHER ONE OF THOSE

2:11:10PARTICULAR PROJECTS, UM, WOULD

2:11:14BE BROUGHT FORWARD AND THAT

2:11:16WOULD BE A DECISION BY THE NEXT

2:11:18COUNCIL.

2:11:19UH, I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT THE

2:11:21HOTEL BUT I UNDERSTAND, YOU

2:11:24KNOW, WHY.

2:11:25>> ARE.

2:11:25WE HERE TODAY?

2:11:26BECAUSE WHEN WE STARTED PRICING

2:11:28OUT THIS PROJECT.

2:11:30THE BECAUSE OF THE TIMES THAT

2:11:32WE'RE IN THE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT

2:11:36THAT WAS GOING TO BE BORNE BY

2:11:38THE ON THE SHOULDERS OF OUR

2:11:40TAXPAYERS WAS JUST GETTING TOO

2:11:42HIGH AND WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO

2:11:45IS SAY LET'S LOOK AND SEE IF

2:11:47THERE'S ANY P3 ANY PUBLIC

2:11:49PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WOULD

2:11:51TAKE SOME OF THAT BURDEN.

2:11:52ON AND THAT'S WHY WE FIND

2:11:56OURSELVES HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE

2:11:58DIDN'T WANT TO PUT ALL OF THAT

2:12:00TAX BURDEN ON THE SHOULDER OF

2:12:02THE TAXPAYERS.

2:12:04SO WHAT WE WITH THAT COMES A

2:12:07GIVE AND TAKE.

2:12:09UM THERE'S NO PUBLIC DEVELOPER

2:12:11ARE GOING TO COME IN AND DO A

2:12:13PROJECT AND AND NOT HAVE A

2:12:16RETURN ON HIS OR HER INVESTMENT

2:12:19.

2:12:20UM.

2:12:20>> AS A CITY IF WE DO THAT

2:12:23INVESTMENT.

2:12:24UM.

2:12:25>> SOMETIMES ESPECIALLY WHEN IT

2:12:26COMES TO PARKS THAT THAT'S NOT

2:12:28PUT INTO THE EQUATION.

2:12:31SO YOU KNOW, FOR ME I.

2:12:33>> WOULD UH.

2:12:34I WOULD.

2:12:35MOVE THE K AND B PROJECT

2:12:37FORWARD TO BRING THAT MORE

2:12:41DETAIL AND SPECIFY SPECIFICITY

2:12:43BACK TO FUTURE COUNCILS IN

2:12:46ORDER TO MAKE A DETERMINATION

2:12:48IF THAT'S THE TYPE OF PROJECT

2:12:51BECAUSE NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT

2:12:52THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL AND I

2:12:55DON'T THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE

2:12:56HERE TODAY AND DURING THIS

2:12:59PROCESS IF THIS COUNCIL DECIDES

2:13:01TO MOVE ANY OF THESE PROJECTS

2:13:04FORWARD THEY'RE DOING THAT

2:13:06KNOWING THAT THIS IS ONLY AN

2:13:09ASKED FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH

2:13:11THE DEVELOPER TO BRING THAT

2:13:13SPECIFICITY BACK TO US SO WE

2:13:15CAN MAKE A GOOD INFORMED

2:13:17DECISION.

2:13:17AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON UH.

2:13:20WHERE WE ARE UP.

2:13:21>> TO THIS POINT.

2:13:21COUNCIL MEMBERS THANK YOU.

2:13:23THANK YOU MAYOR YEAH UH, JUST

2:13:25TWO POINTS.

2:13:25I DID WANT TO UH, MAKE THE

2:13:27POINT AROUND THE UH, OPEN TO

2:13:29THE PUBLIC PIECE OF THE POOL.

2:13:30UH, IF WE REMEMBER BACK, YOU

2:13:33DIDN'T NEED TO BE A MEMBER OF

2:13:34THE POOL TO USE THE POOL.

2:13:35UH, THAT WAS PREVIOUS.

2:13:37UM, SO THERE WAS A SMALL

2:13:40INVESTMENT REQUIRED BY BY

2:13:41CITIZENS, BUT IT WAS A SMALL

2:13:43INVESTMENT NOWHERE NEAR WHAT IT

2:13:44TAKES TO GO TO THE POOL OF

2:13:45MARGARITAVILLE.

2:13:45SO TO, UH, TO COMPARE, UH,

2:13:49LET'S HAVE IT LIKE

2:13:50MARGARITAVILLE OPEN TO THE

2:13:50PUBLIC.

2:13:51I WOULD NOT AGREE WITH THAT.

2:13:52WE NEED TO HAVE IT OPEN TO THE

2:13:53PUBLIC.

2:13:53WE NEED TO HAVE IT REASONABLE

2:13:55UM, NOT RESORT STYLE PRICES AT

2:13:58THE YOU KNOW, 50 TO $100 A

2:14:01VISIT.

2:14:01UH, SO I WOULD NEVER BE IN

2:14:02FAVOR OF THAT.

2:14:04UM, AND, UH, I HAD MADE A NOTE

2:14:06TO MAKE SURE THAT I, UH, MADE

2:14:09THE POINT OF THE FISHING PIER

2:14:12DURING CITIZENS INPUT WAS

2:14:13BROUGHT UP.

2:14:14HEY, THERE SHOULD BE YOU KNOW,

2:14:15THE FISHING PIER SHOULD BE

2:14:16BROUGHT BACK.

2:14:16THAT SHOULD BE PUBLIC.

2:14:17THAT IS COMING THAT SO THAT'S

2:14:20THAT'S NOT A PART OF THIS

2:14:21EQUATION AT ALL.

2:14:22IT'S ALREADY DONE THE PERMITS

2:14:24THAT ARE APPLIED FOR UM AND UH

2:14:27THE WORK HAS BEEN ALREADY

2:14:29ESTABLISHED OF WHAT IT'S GOING

2:14:30TO TAKE.

2:14:30UM THIS COUNCIL MADE A DECISION

2:14:34UM, UH TO MAKE THAT MORE OF A

2:14:38REDO IF YOU WILL, RATHER THAN A

2:14:39FIX SO THAT IT WOULD STAND THE

2:14:41TEST OF TIME, UH, REPLACING THE

2:14:44PILINGS, UH, AND MAKING IT A A

2:14:47SUBSTANTIAL PIER, NOT A BAND

2:14:48AID.

2:14:49UH, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE

2:14:50REASONS WHY IT'S TAKEN AS LONG

2:14:51AS IT'S TAKEN.

2:14:52BUT THAT IS NOT PART OF THE

2:14:54PART OF THE DEAL HERE.

2:14:55WE ARE ALREADY MOVING FORWARD

2:14:56ON GETTING THAT PUBLIC UM

2:14:58FISHING PIER BACK.

2:15:00UH, SO THAT'S JUST SIMPLY

2:15:03FOLLOWING ITS COURSE OF ACTION

2:15:05NOW TO GET THAT REBUILT.

2:15:06SO THAT'S IT.

2:15:07THANK YOU.

2:15:08>>.

2:15:09>> COUNCIL MEMBER LASTER.

2:15:10THANK YOU MAYOR.

2:15:12UM PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I WAS

2:15:13GOING.

2:15:13>> TO SAY HAS BEEN SAID.

2:15:14UM.

2:15:15>> IF YOU RECALL.

2:15:16I KNOW YOU WERE HERE MAYOR WAS

2:15:17IT 2019 WHEN WE HAD.

2:15:20UM HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS REACH

2:15:22OUT ABOUT WHERE WE.

2:15:24>> WERE REPLACING THOSE RAMPS

2:15:25AND TO MOVE THAT UM.

2:15:28BACK TO WHERE.

2:15:29IT ORIGINALLY WAS I'M.

2:15:31NOT A FAN OF BECAUSE.

2:15:32>> ALL OF THOSE.

2:15:33RESIDENTS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

2:15:35UM.

2:15:35>> CAME FORWARD AND AND BEGGED

2:15:38US TO PUT IT WHERE THE ORIGINAL

2:15:39PLAN.

2:15:39WAS AND I'M GOING BACK 2019.

2:15:42UM.

2:15:43>> THE OTHER THING TOO IS I

2:15:45THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS.

2:15:46THE MAYOR.

2:15:47>> STATED.

2:15:47>> NEITHER PLAN IS IDEAL.

2:15:48UM, I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING

2:15:50THAT'S GOING TO TAKE THE.

2:15:51LEAST AMOUNT.

2:15:52OF IMPACT.

2:15:53OFF OF US THE TAXPAYERS.

2:15:55UM AND I AM NOT IN FAVOR.

2:15:59>> OF.

2:16:00NOT MAKING A DECISION.

2:16:00I THINK THAT.

2:16:02DIRECTING STAFF.

2:16:03>> TO.

2:16:04GO WITH.

2:16:04>> ONE OR.

2:16:05>> THE OTHER.

2:16:06UM, IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO AT

2:16:07THIS POINT BECAUSE I'M NOT A

2:16:08FAN OF SEEING THIS PROPERTY SIT

2:16:10UH, THE WAY IT IS OR.

2:16:12US THE TAXPAYERS.

2:16:13HAVE TO PAY FOR.

2:16:14YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE.

2:16:16YOU KNOW.

2:16:17>> THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

2:16:18SO I.

2:16:19TOO WILL.

2:16:20>> BE IN FAVOR OF K AND B I

2:16:21THINK IT FITS BETTER TO WHAT

2:16:24PLAN WAS.

2:16:25APPROVED AND WHAT THE PREVIOUS

2:16:27MEETINGS AS THE MAYOR AND

2:16:29COUNCIL MEMBER STANKEY STATED

2:16:30WE HAVE WE HAD MEETINGS.

2:16:32WAY BACK.

2:16:3320 2019 UM.

2:16:35>> IF YOU RECALL GOING TO THE.

2:16:36YACHT CLUB AND AND UM YOU KNOW,

2:16:39THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE UH

2:16:41VEHEMENTLY.

2:16:41AND PASSIONATELY EXPRESSING

2:16:43THEIR OPINION UM, I FEEL LIKE

2:16:45THE K AND B OPTION IS GOING TO

2:16:47BETTER FIT WHAT WE'VE HEARD

2:16:48OVER THE YEARS.

2:16:50UM, SO THAT.

2:16:51>> WOULD BE UH, MY

2:16:53RECOMMENDATION.

2:16:54THANK YOU.

2:16:54MAYOR UH, COUNCILMEMBER COULD

2:16:56YOU.

2:16:57THANKS, MAYOR.

2:16:58SO WHEN THE PUBLIC WAS SPEAKING

2:17:00IN PUBLIC INPUT I TOOK NOTES

2:17:02AND I VERY LOUDLY HEARD

2:17:04COMMUNITY CENTER POOL THAT CAN

2:17:07PROVIDE SWIMMING LESSONS NOT

2:17:09RESORT STYLE.

2:17:10POOL PIER PARKING AND VERY MUCH

2:17:14PUBLIC ACCESS.

2:17:14SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IF WE

2:17:18MOVE FORWARD WITH CMV AND IT

2:17:20SOUNDS LIKE NO ONE UP HERE IS

2:17:21FOR A HOTEL.

2:17:22OKAY AND BE STILL BE INTERESTED

2:17:23IN THIS PROJECT.

2:17:25AND IF THE ANSWER IS NO THEN

2:17:27WHAT DO WE DO?

2:17:28DO WE.

2:17:28>> DO.

2:17:29SCOPE AND GO BACK TO EXACTLY

2:17:31WHAT THE PLANS WERE.

2:17:33BECAUSE WITHOUT.

2:17:36>> THE HOTEL WHAT EXACTLY IS

2:17:37THEIR INVESTMENT?

2:17:37RUNNING A COMMUNITY CENTER IS.

2:17:39A SUBSIDY.

2:17:41UM THE HOTEL.

2:17:42IS THE MONEY MAKER.

2:17:44SO I GUESS THAT'S REALLY.

2:17:46I'M OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD

2:17:47WITH K AND B.

2:17:48IT DOES HAVE.

2:17:49THE LOOK AND THE ESTHETICS.

2:17:50OF WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.

2:17:51TO US THAT KIMBERLY HORNE HAS

2:17:53SPENT.

2:17:53WILL WE HAVE SPENT $8 MILLION

2:17:56DESIGNING.

2:17:56UM BUT.

2:17:57WITHOUT THE HOTEL DO THEY STILL

2:17:59MOVE FORWARD AND I DON'T HAVE

2:18:01THAT ANSWER.

2:18:01THANK YOU.

2:18:04UH, COUNCILMEMBER GUILLORY.

2:18:05YEAH, I JUST WANT TO COME BACK

2:18:07AND SAY I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH

2:18:09THE POOL.

2:18:10UH, AND.

2:18:11UH UH, PREFERRED RESIDENTS

2:18:14ACCESS TO THAT IN A MANNER

2:18:16THAT'S, UH, NOT OPPRESSIVE TO

2:18:18TO THE WALLET.

2:18:19SAME THING WITH, UH UH, THE USE

2:18:23OF THE BEACH.

2:18:23UH.

2:18:24YOU KNOW THAT THAT.

2:18:25NEEDS TO BE A.

2:18:25RESIDENT BASED, UH, AND AND THE

2:18:27EXPANSION OF THE BEACH.

2:18:28>> BY HAVING THE BOAT.

2:18:29RAMPS OFF OF THE BEACH AND

2:18:31BECAUSE.

2:18:32>> OF THE SAFETY ISSUE.

2:18:33>> TOO THAT WAS DESCRIBED HERE,

2:18:34WHICH IS REALLY A STRONG POINT

2:18:36.

2:18:37UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, I

2:18:40PROBABLY LIKE.

2:18:41>> UH, THE IN THE.

2:18:42PARKING AREA I KNOW THAT WE'RE

2:18:44GOING TO WANT TO HAVE SOME CITY

2:18:45,UH, RESIDENT KIND OF.

2:18:47PARKING UH.

2:18:48THAT IS GOING TO BE.

2:18:50UH DONE IN A MANNER THAT.

2:18:52WOULD BE EITHER LESS.

2:18:53EXPENSIVE OR REASONABLE AS

2:18:55COMPARED TO WHAT OTHER OUTSIDE

2:18:57RATES.

2:18:57>> MIGHT BE.

2:18:58>> AND I THINK THAT WE WERE

2:18:59ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE THAT

2:19:01PROBABLY IN WHATEVER WE'RE

2:19:02DOING GOING FORWARD BUT RATHER

2:19:05LET'S LET'S GET.

2:19:06SPECIF SHIFTING UH.

2:19:08BY MOVING FORWARD CAN.

2:19:10>> BE THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M.

2:19:11>> AT AND UH, NOT TO SAY THAT

2:19:13UH, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT NOT

2:19:15BE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE.

2:19:16IN THE FUTURE FOR THE.

2:19:18ALTERNATE UH.

2:19:19IF WE CAN'T REACH.

2:19:20>> UH, CONCLUSION HERE.

2:19:22UM, I.

2:19:23I'M I'M NOT SOLD ON THE HOTEL.

2:19:25RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THAT IN

2:19:27ORDER TO INCENTIVIZE THIS.

2:19:29PROJECT AND HAVE THAT DEVELOPER

2:19:31.

2:19:32INTERESTED IN HAVING A

2:19:33POSITIVE.

2:19:34CASH FLOW ON THIS THING, I

2:19:36THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE IN

2:19:37THERE.

2:19:37SO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

2:19:38THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON.

2:19:40COUNCILMEMBER STANKY.

2:19:41THANK YOU MAYOR.

2:19:41YEAH.

2:19:42JUST UH.

2:19:42IN REGARD TO.

2:19:43>> A COUPLE THINGS I, I LIKE

2:19:46THE MAYOR SAID NEITHER ONE ARE

2:19:48PERFECT.

2:19:48UM, BUT TO GET SOMEONE TO

2:19:50INVEST THEIR MONEY UH, IT DOES

2:19:52REQUIRE UH, A GIVE AND TAKE AND

2:19:54SO, UM, WHILE A HOTEL WOULDN'T

2:19:56BE UH UM, THE THE AT THE TOP OF

2:20:00THE LIST OF COMPONENT PARTS

2:20:01THERE UM, IF THAT'S WHAT IT

2:20:04TAKES TO GET THE JOB DONE, HOW

2:20:05DO WE HOW DO WE MAKE THAT WORK?

2:20:08UH, IN A WAY THAT IT HAS THE

2:20:11LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT THAT

2:20:12PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT TO

2:20:14PROVIDE THAT, UH, FUNDING

2:20:16SOURCE TO THE INVESTOR TO MAKE

2:20:17IT WORTH THEIR WORTH THEIR

2:20:19WHILE TO DO IT.

2:20:20SO, UH AND THAT'S WHAT MOVING

2:20:22ON TO THIS NEXT STEP IS THE

2:20:23FEEDBACK HAS BEEN GIVEN.

2:20:24YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE DEVELOPER

2:20:26SAYS WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE

2:20:27CAN SPREAD IT OUT SO MUCH SO

2:20:29THAT IT'S NOT AS TALL, UH, THAT

2:20:31WE CAN STILL GET THE ROOM COUNT

2:20:32THAT WE NEED BUT IT IS NOT AS

2:20:33MUCH OF A OF A VISUAL

2:20:36OBSTRUCTION.

2:20:36UH, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS NEXT

2:20:37STAGE IS ALL ABOUT IS THOSE

2:20:39NEGOTIATIONS AROUND.

2:20:40HEY, YOU'VE HEARD THE FEEDBACK

2:20:41AND HEAR WHAT PEOPLE'S CONCERNS

2:20:43ARE.

2:20:43HOW CAN WE TRY TO ALLEVIATE

2:20:44THOSE CONCERNS AND STILL MAKE

2:20:46IT WORTH YOUR WHILE?

2:20:47THAT'S WHAT THIS NEXT STEP IS

2:20:49ALL ABOUT.

2:20:49SO I, I AM NOT UH, A HARD NO ON

2:20:53NO HOTEL ROOMS UM AND SO I AM

2:20:56UH A VIBRANT YES ON WELL LET'S

2:20:58LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN

2:21:00MAKE THIS WORK FOR BOTH OF US

2:21:02AND THAT'S WHAT THE NEXT STEP

2:21:03IS ALL ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO

2:21:05THE POOL.

2:21:05UH, WE WENT THROUGH

2:21:07CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE POOL

2:21:08QUITE A BIT OF, UH, GIVE AND

2:21:10TAKE AROUND THAT AND THE

2:21:11DECISION WAS MADE IF THERE WAS

2:21:13IF THERE IS A RESORT STYLE TO

2:21:14IT, THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE UH

2:21:17AN EXERCISE COMPONENT AND LANES

2:21:20DESIGNED FOR SWIMMING LAPS UM

2:21:22UH, AN AREA OF THE POOL THAT

2:21:24WOULD MAKE IT UM, UH, AMENABLE

2:21:27TO GIVING SWIMMING LESSONS TO

2:21:28THE KIDS.

2:21:29UH, AND SO UH, IT'S NOT

2:21:32REPRESENTED IN UH IN THE UH,

2:21:35RENDERING THAT WE HAVE HERE

2:21:37TODAY BUT IT WAS ALREADY

2:21:39BROUGHT UP AND ACQUIESCED TO IN

2:21:41THE DESIGN, UH, THAT THERE

2:21:44WOULD BE AN AREA IN THE POOL

2:21:44OTHER THAN JUST FREE-FORM

2:21:47RESORT STYLE BUT ALSO, UH, TO

2:21:50MEET THOSE NEEDS OF SWIMMING

2:21:51LAPS, UH, AND DOING SWIMMING

2:21:52LESSONS AND THE THINGS THAT THE

2:21:54COMMUNITY WANTS IN A COMMUNITY

2:21:56POOL, UH, VERSUS A RESORT POOL.

2:21:58SO SO THAT WOULD BE WHILE I

2:22:01WON'T BE HERE TO MAKE THIS

2:22:02DECISION THAT WOULD BE A HARD

2:22:03NO FOR ME IS IF THERE WASN'T AN

2:22:06ABILITY FOR THOSE SWIMMING

2:22:08LESSONS FOR SWIMMING LAPS AND

2:22:10MAKING IT THAT COMMUNITY PIECE

2:22:12UM AND ONLY SERVING THE NEEDS

2:22:14OF OF THE THE HOTEL OR

2:22:16COMMUNITY CENTER.

2:22:17SO I'M EXPECTING THAT THAT

2:22:18WOULD REMAIN IN THE DESIGN AS

2:22:20THOSE NEGOTIATIONS WOULD MOVE

2:22:22FORWARD THAT THE COMMUNITY

2:22:24NEEDS OF THE POOL ARE MET IN

2:22:26ITS DESIGN AS WELL.

2:22:27THANK YOU MAYOR OKAY.

2:22:29>> I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS

2:22:31ON.

2:22:31UH, LOOKS LIKE WE STILL HAVE TO

2:22:33GET A DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL

2:22:35MEMBER.

2:22:35LONG COUNCIL.

2:22:36MEMBER LEHMAN AND I DIDN'T

2:22:38UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBER DOWN

2:22:40THOSE, UH, DIRECTIONS, SO MAYBE

2:22:42YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT SO THOSE

2:22:43THREE INDIVIDUALS EVERYBODY

2:22:45ELSE HAS CHOSEN CAN BE.

2:22:47EITHER NEITHER.

2:22:49SO YOU'RE A NONE.

2:22:50ALL RIGHT.

2:22:51AND COUNCIL MEMBER LEHMAN.

2:22:53ANYTHING THE CLASSIFICATION.

2:22:55K AND B AND UH COUNCIL.

2:22:59>> MEMBER LONG.

2:23:00SOUNDS LIKE YOU GOT A CONSENSUS

2:23:01.

2:23:01MAYOR DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT?

2:23:04UH I.

2:23:05DON'T I DON'T I.

2:23:06KNOW I DO.

2:23:07NOT OKAY.

2:23:08ALL RIGHT.

2:23:09>> WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH,

2:23:11MR. CITY MANAGER UM, OTHER THAN

2:23:14COUNCIL MEMBER LONG, DID YOU

2:23:15GET THE DIRECTION YOU WERE.

2:23:16>> LOOKING FOR?

2:23:17I DID.

2:23:18ALL RIGHT.

2:23:19ALL RIGHT, LET'S, UH, MOVE ON

2:23:22TO ITEM SEVEN IS ROUNDTABLE

2:23:27DISCUSSIONS.

2:23:27IF MAYOR.

2:23:28>> JUST A POINT OF ORDER.

2:23:29UH JUST, UH CAN.

2:23:32CAN WE ABSTAIN.

2:23:33OR JUST NOT HAVE A POSITION.

2:23:35>> ON SOMETHING?

2:23:35I THOUGHT THAT IT WE'RE

2:23:37REQUIRED TO TAKE A POSITION.

2:23:38I THINK WE.

2:23:39>> JUST DID, UH, FOR WEST CAPE

2:23:40ESTATES, DID WE NOT?

2:23:41YEP.

2:23:41>> UM.

2:23:43>> I YOU'D HAVE TO ASK CITY

2:23:44ATTORNEY WERNER.

2:23:45THAT'S A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION

2:23:47.

2:23:47CERTAINLY A COUNCIL MEMBER CAN

2:23:50CHOOSE NOT TO TAKE A POSITION.

2:23:51OKAY.

2:23:52>> THANK YOU, MAYOR LONG.

2:23:53ALL RIGHT.

2:23:54UH, ROUNDTABLE.

2:23:55DISCUSSIONS, UH, ANYTHING, UH,

2:23:57ANYONE HAS.

2:23:59OKAY.

2:24:00SEEING NONE TIME PLACE FUTURE

2:24:02MEETING.

2:24:03WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING OF

2:24:03THE CAPE CORAL CITY COUNCIL IS

2:24:05SCHEDULED AFTER THIS MEETING.

2:24:06UM.

2:24:07>> HERE TODAY ON TODAY'S DATE,

2:24:09UH, AND CONFERENCE ROOM 228.

2:24:11UM, DO YOU THINK THAT, UH,

2:24:14WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE

2:24:15IN THE NEXT UH.

2:24:17UH, HOUR?

2:24:19UM OR DO WE WANT TO TAKE A

2:24:20LUNCH BREAK FIRST?

2:24:21WHAT'S THE LUNCH BREAK?

2:24:24ALL RIGHT, SO WHY DON'T WE

2:24:26START THAT MEETING AT 1230 IN

2:24:28ROOM 220?

2:24:29>> I'M SORRY I HAD ANY.

2:24:30ANNOUNCEMENT IF I MIGHT.

2:24:31ALL RIGHT, THAT, UM.

2:24:32UM, JUST FOR ANYONE WHO'S

2:24:35INTERESTED, I'M HAVING A TOWN

2:24:36HALL MEETING THIS SATURDAY.

2:24:37AT CAPE CHRISTIAN.

2:24:39FROM 10 TO 12.

2:24:40>> AND THAT'S ON TUKWILA.

2:24:41EVERYONE'S INVITED.

2:24:43UH, BASICALLY THE.

2:24:44FOCUS IS GOING TO BE PRIMARILY

2:24:46THE CHARTER SCHOOL AND ALSO

2:24:48AMENDMENT THREE JUST TALKING

2:24:49ABOUT WHAT THAT BRINGS.

2:24:51>> TO THE CITY.

2:24:52THANK YOU.

2:24:52>> ALL RIGHT.

2:24:53>> TO THE SPECIAL.

2:24:54MEETING UH, ON SEPTEMBER 23RD

2:24:56WILL BEGIN AT 12:30 P.M. HERE

2:24:58IN CONFERENCE ROOM 2:20 A.M. WE

2:25:01ALSO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING OF

2:25:01THE CAPE CORAL CITY.

2:25:03COUNCIL IS SCHEDULED FOR

2:25:05TOMORROW THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER

2:25:0724TH BEGINNING AT 505 UH IN THE

2:25:10COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND THAT WILL

2:25:11BE THE SECOND AND FINAL.

2:25:13UH BUDGET HEARING.

2:25:14AND ALSO WE HAVE A SPECIAL

2:25:16MEETING OF THE CAPE CORAL CITY

2:25:18COUNCIL IS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY

2:25:19,SEPTEMBER 28TH BEGINNING AT

2:25:224.

2:25:23>> P.M..

2:25:23HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHICH

2:25:24I BELIEVE IS THE UP DISCUSSION

2:25:26I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO

2:25:28ADJOURN.

2:25:28>> SO MOVED.

2:25:29SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

2:25:32>> AYE.

2:25:32ANY OPPOSED.

2:25:33MEETING JUNE.