2026-10-07 - City Council

02:47WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING

02:48OF THE CAPE CORAL CITY COUNCIL.

02:49TODAY IS OCTOBER 7TH 2026.

02:52THIS MEETING NOW COMES TO

02:53ORDER.

02:53PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION

02:55AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY

02:57COUNCIL MEMBER KILBRIDE.

03:00HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE

03:02YOU WITH GRATEFUL.

03:03HEARTS TO LIFT UP THE MEN.

03:05AND WOMEN WHO.

03:06ANSWERED THE CALL TO SERVE.

03:08WE PRAY FOR OUR MILITARY

03:10PERSONNEL STATIONED AROUND THE

03:12WORLD.

03:12OUR POLICE OFFICERS,

03:15FIREFIGHTERS, PARAMEDICS,

03:17EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIANS.

03:19>> AND DISPATCHERS.

03:20AND EVERY PUBLIC SERVANT WHO

03:22WORKS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY

03:23SAFE AND FREE.

03:25GRANT WISDOM AND COURAGE,

03:28PROVIDE CLEAR.

03:28MINDS AND STEADY.

03:30RESOLVE IN MOMENTS OF CRISIS

03:32PLUS LEADERS WITH DISCERNMENT

03:33TO MAKE CHOICES THAT PROTECT

03:35THE COMMON GOOD AND FOSTER

03:38JUSTICE AND PEACE.

03:39PROVIDE PROTECTION AND STRENGTH

03:41.

03:42SHIELD THEM FROM PHYSICAL,

03:43EMOTIONAL AND SPIRITUAL HARM AS

03:45THEY STEP INTO DANGER.

03:47SUSTAIN THEIR BODIES THROUGH

03:48LONG HOURS, HEAVY GEAR AND

03:51DEMANDING ENVIRONMENTS A HEART

03:53TO SERVE ALL INSTALL ON THE

03:56INSTILL A DEEP SELFLESS

03:58DEDICATION TO SERVE EVERY

03:59INDIVIDUAL WITH EQUITY,

04:02COMPASSION AND RESPECT.

04:03HELP THEM TO HONOR THE HIGH

04:05CALLING OF PROTECTING OUR

04:06NEIGHBORS WITHOUT PARTIALITY.

04:08WATCH OVER FAMILIES.

04:10COMFORT THE SPOUSES, CHILDREN

04:12AND LOVED ONES WHO BEAR THE

04:14SACRIFICE OF LONG APRONS,

04:16ABSENCES, MISSED HOLIDAYS AND

04:18THE CONSTANT RATE OF WORRY.

04:20SURROUND THEIR HOMES WITH

04:22PEACE.

04:22MAY OUR COMMITMENTS NEVER TAKE

04:24THEIR SACRIFICES FOR GRANTED.

04:26AND MAY ALL WHO SERVE RETURN

04:28SAFELY TO THOSE THEY LOVE.

04:30IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY.

04:33AMEN.

04:33AMEN.

04:34>> PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE

04:35PLEDGE.

04:36I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE

04:38FLAG.

04:39UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO

04:42THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT

04:44STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD,

04:47INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

04:49JUSTICE FOR ALL.

04:54MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL

04:55THE ROLL.

04:56MAYOR GUNTER HERE.

04:59COUNCIL MEMBERS DONNELL.

05:02HADDOCK HERE.

05:03KIEL.

05:04>> RAIN HERE.

05:05LASTER HERE.

05:06LEMON HERE.

05:07LONG.

05:08HERE.

05:09STINKY.

05:10HERE I'LL PRESENT.

05:12OKAY.

05:12>> THANK YOU.

05:13JUST A REMINDER.

05:14ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK

05:15DURING CITIZENS INPUT PLEASE

05:17REMEMBER TO FILL OUT A COMMENT

05:18CARD.

05:19UM.

05:20>> AND ITEM FIVE IS, UH,

05:24CHANGES OF THE AGENDA.

05:25IS THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE

05:26AGENDA WHERE I ENTERTAIN A

05:27MOTION TO, UH, ADOPT THE AGENDA

05:30AS PRESENTED?

05:31COUNCIL MEMBER COULD DO.

05:33THANK YOU.

05:34>> MAYOR.

05:34I DO HAVE, UM, A FEW CHANGES

05:37THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST.

05:38THE FIRST ONE WAS IN.

05:40OUR E COMMENTS.

05:41WE RECEIVED A REQUEST TO MOVE

05:44OUR NEW BUSINESS ITEMS TO AFTER

05:46CITIZENS INPUT DUE TO AN ADA

05:48REQUEST.

05:50THE SECOND ONE WAS THAT I WOULD

05:53LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM 14 E AND

05:57MOVE THAT TO OUR COMMITTEE OF

05:58THE WHOLE MEETING ON 1014.

06:00THE REASON BEING IS ACCORDING

06:02TO OUR COUNCIL RULES REGULAR

06:05MEETINGS ARE VOTING MEETINGS

06:06WHERE COUNCIL ACTS ON ITEMS ON

06:07THE AGENDA AND PUBLIC HEARINGS

06:09ARE HELD FOR ORDINANCES.

06:10>> AND RESOLUTIONS.

06:11COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETINGS

06:12PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH THE

06:13OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME FAMILIAR

06:14WITH ISSUES FACING THE CITY AND

06:16DISCUSS THE ITEMS WITH STAFF.

06:17AND SINCE THIS AS IT'S A

06:19DISCUSSION I THINK THAT WOULD

06:19BE MORE APPROPRIATE.

06:20WE HAVE A PRETTY PACKED AGENDA.

06:26AND 14 B TELL ME WHAT THAT.

06:27TOPIC IS.

06:2914 E.

06:30E IS NON BARGAINING EMPLOYEE

06:32SALARY INCREASE DISCUSSION.

06:36ALL RIGHT.

06:37>> WELL SO THERE'S BASICALLY UH

06:42SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE TWO

06:43REQUESTS.

06:44UH ONE TO UM UH REMOVE ITEM 14

06:50AND THE SECOND ITEM IS TO MOVE

06:54UH WHICH ITEM FORWARD AGAIN

06:56AFTER CITIZENS INPUT.

06:5814 NEW BUSINESS RIGHT AFTER

06:59CITIZENS INPUT PER REQUEST WE

07:01RECEIVED VIA E COMMENTS.

07:03SO THAT WOULD BE ALL OF THEM.

07:04YEAH A.

07:05>> THROUGH D I THINK.

07:06YEP.

07:06OKAY.

07:07>> ALL RIGHT.

07:08>> WELL WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL

07:09GO DOWN THE LINE AND UH SEE IF

07:11EVERYBODY HAS ANY UH DISCUSSION

07:15OR IF THEY AGREE TO THOSE

07:16CHANGES FIRST AND UH WHEREVER

07:18THE MAJORITY UH MAY LAND US

07:20THAT'S WHERE.

07:21WE UM WHERE.

07:23>> WE'LL.

07:23BE COUNCIL MEMBER LARSON.

07:24SORRY.

07:25>> JUST.

07:25TO CLARIFY.

07:26UM, THE NON.

07:27BARGAINING PIECE.

07:28UH, WAS THAT PUT ON TO WE WERE

07:30VOTING ON IT.

07:31NO I MEAN THERE WOULD BE A VOTE

07:33ON THAT.

07:34I ADDED I ADDED IT FOR.

07:36FOR TWO REASONS.

07:37I WAS GOING TO GO INTO THE TWO

07:39REASONS THEN AND I'LL JUST

07:41BRIEFLY UH THE TWO TWO ITEMS

07:43THAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP IS

07:46UH WE HAVE ABOUT 1800 EMPLOYEES

07:47,UH, AND WE APPROVE THE CITY

07:51COUNCIL APPROVES EVERYONE'S.

07:53UH.

07:53>> SALARY INCREASE.

07:55THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WE DO NOT

07:59APPROVE IS NON BARGAINING.

08:01SO TO ME THAT'S NOT BEING FAIR

08:02AND CONSISTENT.

08:03I THINK THAT UH THAT'S

08:05SOMETHING THAT SHOULD, UH, LAND

08:07UH IN FRONT OF US UH, FOR A

08:09VOTE.

08:10SO THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS I

08:12WAS GOING TO BRING UP UH

08:13REGARDING THAT TOPIC AND THEN

08:14UH, SECONDLY, UM, I THINK

08:17THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED

08:19TO ADOPT A POLICY UH, MOVING

08:21FORWARD IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION

08:23THAT WE WANT TO GO.

08:24AND I WAS GOING TO GIVE SOME

08:25SCENARIOS THERE.

08:26AS WELL.

08:26WOULD YOU BE OKAY.

08:28>> IF.

08:28WE MOVED IT TO A COW.

08:29UM.

08:30.

08:30FOR DISCUSSION?

08:31UH.

08:32AS LONG AS THERE'S NO SALARY

08:36INCREASES UNTIL WE HAVE THE

08:37DISCUSSION.

08:38OKAY.

08:38>> I SEE.

08:39SO I THINK TIME IS OF THE

08:40ESSENCE I GET TO OKAY.

08:41THAT'S WHY I PUT IT ON, UH,

08:43TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

08:44OKAY I UNDERSTAND.

08:45THANK YOU.

08:46>> ALL RIGHT.

08:48UH, MISTER CITY MANAGER.

08:52THANK YOU.

08:53>> MAYOR.

08:53UM, THE ONLY THING.

08:54THAT I WOULD ASK THEN IS IT

08:55REALLY IS CONTINGENT.

08:56IT REALLY IS CONTINGENT UPON,

08:59UM, HOW YOU ALL TREAT MOVING

09:01NEW BUSINESS.

09:02UM, IF YOU ALL DO AGREE TO MOVE

09:04THAT UP, I WOULD REQUEST THAT

09:06ORDINANCE 5526 BE MOVED UP AS

09:10WELL PRIOR TO NEW BUSINESS.

09:15SIX.

09:15>> AND THAT IS IF AND ONLY IF

09:20YOU ALL WANT TO MOVE ANYTHING.

09:21I WOULD ASK THAT THAT BE MOVED

09:23WITH THE TWO IN THE SAME ORDER

09:25THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

09:26MY MY ONLY CONCERN WITH MOVING

09:29THE OTHER TWO ITEMS I DID GET A

09:30FEW PHONE CALLS TODAY UH, ABOUT

09:33THESE ITEMS AND I'M SURE WE ALL

09:35HAVE AND YOU KNOW, I TOLD THEM

09:37EXACTLY WHERE THEY WERE ON THE

09:39AGENDA.

09:40UH, AND UH, I KNOW A FEW OF

09:42THOSE PEOPLE HAD SOME PREVIOUS

09:44COMMITMENTS.

09:45SO I JUST WANT TO KEEP KEEP

09:46THAT IN MIND IF WE DECIDE TO

09:48MOVE THESE ITEMS UP KNOWING

09:51THAT WE DO HAVE A LENGTHY, UH,

09:53AGENDA.

09:54UH, SOME OF THESE, UH,

09:56OPPORTUNITIES, UM, THOSE

09:58INDIVIDUALS MAY OR MAY NOT BE

09:59ABLE TO TO EITHER LISTEN IN OR

10:01WEIGH IN SO.

10:02BUT WHY DON'T WE START DOWN

10:04WITH COUNCIL MEMBER UH, COUNCIL

10:06MEMBER DOWNHILL.

10:07UH, THERE'S TWO REQUEST.

10:09UH.

10:10>> ACTUALLY THREE NOW IF YOU

10:11ADD THE CITY MANAGER'S UH, HE

10:14WANTED TO MOVE UP 5526 UH, AND

10:18THEY WANTED TO MOVE UP UM, THE

10:21OTHER ITEMS UNDER UNDER NEW

10:24BUSINESS EXCEPT FOR FOR TEENY.

10:26WE'LL ADDRESS THAT SEPARATELY.

10:27SO DO.

10:29>> YOU AGREE TO CHANGE AND MAKE

10:31THAT CHANGE?

10:33WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF COUNCIL

10:35TO DO SO THEN WHAT?

10:36AND THEN THERE WAS.

10:38>> WE'VE RECEIVED OUR COMMENTS

10:40THIS AFTERNOON FROM.

10:41COUNCIL THAT.

10:41>> AND IN THEM ONE OF THEM WAS

10:43AN ADA REQUEST.

10:44TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PART OF

10:46THE.

10:46TO TO BE ABLE TO HEAR IT LIVE.

10:49TO MOVE NEW BUSINESS AFTER

10:52CITIZENS INPUT SO.

10:53>> THAT.

10:53THEY COULD STAY IN THE ROOM.

10:54UNDERSTOOD?

10:54>> UM NO TO NO TO BOTH OF

10:56THOSE.

10:58I'M I'M GOOD WITH IT.

11:00UM, OKAY.

11:02OKAY.

11:02>> MOVING MOVING THE ITEMS UP

11:05HERE.

11:06UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF LEAVING THE

11:08AGENDA THE WAY IT IS.

11:09I'M IN FAVOR OF LEAVING THE

11:11AGENDA THE WAY IT IS.

11:11KEEP IT WHERE IT IS.

11:13UH.

11:13>> KEEP IT.

11:14MOVE IT UP.

11:16OKAY.

11:17>> ALL RIGHT.

11:17AND LET'S ADDRESS, UH, 14 E DO

11:19WE WANT TO, UH UH, KEEP THAT IN

11:22THE, UH AND THE ON THE AGENDA

11:25AS UH, IT WAS PRESENTED TO HAVE

11:27A DISCUSSION ON 14.

11:29LIKE I SAID, THAT'S UH, NON

11:31BARGAINING.

11:31UM, SALARY INCREASES AND WE'RE

11:34ALREADY UH, VOTING ON THE

11:37BARGAINING UNIT TONIGHT.

11:38SO I THOUGHT THAT TIME WAS OF

11:40THE ESSENCE TO HAVE THAT

11:42DISCUSSION AND NOT WAIT.

11:42SO IF WE WAIT I'M SORRY I

11:44PUSHED MY BUTTON.

11:45SO IF WE WAIT, THEN WE WON'T BE

11:47ABLE TO VOTE ON THAT TONIGHT

11:49AND THEN WE WOULD DELAY THOSE

11:50INCREASES.

11:50NO THAT DOESN'T THAT'S THAT'S

11:52BARGAINING RIGHT.

11:54I ADDED 14 IS NON BARGAIN.

11:56SO THERE ARE SEPARATE BUT NON

11:58BARGAINING STILL ENTITLED.

11:59UH THE CITY MANAGER TOMORROW IF

12:03HE UH DESIRE TO COULD DO THE

12:06INCREASES UH AND THAT'S ONE OF

12:07THE DISCUSSIONS I WANTED TO

12:09HAPPEN.

12:09OKAY THANK YOU.

12:11MAKES SENSE BUT THERE ARE SOME

12:12THERE ARE SOME OTHER ENTITIES

12:14THAT ARE OUTSIDE.

12:15I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A

12:16DISCUSSION SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR

12:18OF THEM.

12:18YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR OF PUTTING

12:20ON A COW SO WE CAN REALLY GET

12:21INTO THE.

12:22YEAH I LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING

12:23IT ON A COW AS WELL.

12:24MY CONCERN WAS I DIDN'T WANT TO

12:26HOLD BACK ANY OF THE INCREASES

12:28FOR ANY OF THE EMPLOYEES.

12:29THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN BUT I

12:31HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT GOING ON

12:32A COW EITHER.

12:34THANK YOU MAYOR.

12:35WHERE IS.

12:37YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS

12:38WE CAN'T HAVE THE SAME

12:39CONVERSATION NOW THAT WE'D HAVE

12:41IT A COW.

12:41SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT BECAUSE

12:43OF TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

12:44UM I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO DO

12:46IT THIS EVENING.

12:48UH, ME AS WELL TO KEEP IT ON.

12:50YEAH, KEEP IT THERE.

12:51I DON'T WANT TO.

12:52DELAY ANY POTENTIAL.

12:54UH, WE CAN KEEP IT COW.

12:57AND WHEN WE ARE VERY, VERY

12:58TIRED THIS EVENING, JUST

13:00REMEMBER THIS WE SHOULD NOT BE

13:01DOING A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

13:02WE KEPT IT HERE.

13:03THANK YOU.

13:04ALL RIGHT.

13:05SEEING NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA

13:07,I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

13:08THAT MOTION.

13:10TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA IS

13:12PRESENT.

13:12THANK YOU.

13:13>> OKAY.

13:14>> MADAM CITY CLERK.

13:14PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

13:17COULD DO.

13:18NO.

13:19KILL RAIN.

13:19HI.

13:20>> LAST STRAW.

13:21NO.

13:23LEHMAN.

13:23HI.

13:24>> LONG.

13:25>> HI.

13:26STINKY.

13:26UH.

13:27>> DANIELLE.

13:28>> GUNTER.

13:29HI.

13:30>> SIX EYES, TWO NAYS.

13:32MOTION CARRIED.

13:33OKAY.

13:34>> ITEM SIX IS RECOGNITIONS UH

13:36AND ACHIEVEMENTS.

13:37UH.

13:38>> FIRST OF WHICH, UH, IT'S THE

13:40COURTS.

13:41UH, THE UNITED STATES TENNIS

13:44ASSOCIATION OUTSTANDING

13:45FACILITY AWARD AND I'LL TURN.

13:46>> IT OVER TO.

13:48>> MISTER CITY MANAGER.

14:05THE SECOND.

14:06>> THANK YOU.

14:21>> MAYOR.

14:23THE COURTS.

14:23CAPE CORAL HAS BEEN NAMED ONE.

14:25OF 41.

14:27RECIPIENTS OF THE UNITED STATES

14:29TENNIS ASSOCIATION'S 2026

14:31OUTSTANDING FACILITY AWARDS

14:34RECOGNIZING EXCELLENCE IN

14:35TENNIS FACILITY DESIGN,

14:36AMENITIES AND COMMUNITY

14:38PROGRAMING.

14:38THE UNITED STATES TENNIS

14:40ASSOCIATION IS THE NATIONAL

14:41GOVERNING BODY FOR TENNIS IN

14:43THE UNITED STATES.

14:44THE ORGANIZATION PROMOTES AND

14:46DEVELOPS TENNIS AT ALL LEVELS

14:47FROM GRASSROOTS AND YOUTH

14:49PROGRAMS TO PROFESSIONAL

14:51COMPETITION THROUGH PROGRAMS

14:53SUCH AS OUTSTANDING FACILITY

14:54AWARDS.

14:54THE USTA RECOGNIZES FACILITIES

14:57THAT HELP EXPAND ACCESS TO

14:58TENNIS AND SUPPORT THE GROWTH

15:00OF THE SPORT IN LOCAL

15:01COMMUNITIES.

15:02THE USTA EVALUATES FACILITIES

15:04BASED ON FACTORS INCLUDING

15:06COURT QUALITY, LIGHTING,

15:09LAYOUT, MAINTENANCE, AMENITIES,

15:12ESTHETICS AND PARTICIPATION IN

15:14COMMUNITY TENNIS PROGRAMS AND

15:15GROWING TENNIS AT THE

15:17GRASSROOTS LEVEL.

15:18THE COURTS HOST USTA AND LOCAL

15:21TOURNAMENTS AND OFFERS A ROBUST

15:23JUNIOR AND ADULT PROGRAMING

15:24FEATURING CLINICS, LESSONS,

15:26LEAGUES AND EVENTS FOR PLAYERS

15:27OF ALL AGES AND SKILL LEVELS.

15:29THE COURTS CAPE CORAL WAS

15:32HONORED DURING THE 2026 U.S.

15:34OPEN AT THE UNITED STATES

15:36TENNIS ASSOCIATION'S BILLIE

15:38JEAN KING NATIONAL TENNIS

15:39CENTER IN NEW YORK ON AUGUST

15:4231ST AND RECEIVED A

15:43COMMEMORATIVE WALL PLAQUE AND

15:44AN ALL WEATHER FACILITY SIGN

15:46RECOGNIZING THIS ACHIEVEMENT.

15:48CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS

15:51DESIGNATION.

15:55THANK YOU.

15:56>> THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

15:57THE AWARD IS ACTUALLY HANGING

15:59UP ON THE WALL SO WE COULDN'T

16:00BRING IT HERE TODAY, BUT IT WAS

16:02A GREAT HONOR TO REPRESENT THE

16:03CITY.

16:03UH, LISA AND I WENT UP THERE,

16:05UM, IN AUGUST AND IT WAS A

16:08GREAT HONOR TO BE THERE AND IT

16:09WAS A GREAT TIME TO BE A PART

16:11OF THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL.

16:12THANK YOU.

16:13CAME CORAL WAS AT THE US OPEN.

16:27THANK YOU.

16:28>> I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO

16:32THE FACILITY MANAGER.

16:34UH, YEAH.

16:35HE'S BEEN.

16:36OH, SO I I'M LISA ON THE

16:37GENERAL MANAGER OF THE COURTS.

16:38CAPE CORAL IS MARY JO ELLIS AND

16:40SHE'S THE DIRECTOR OF JUNIOR

16:42TENNIS AND WE'RE ABSOLUTELY

16:44THRILLED TO GET THIS AWARD.

16:45UM, WORKED VERY HARD ON OUR

16:47TENNIS PROGRAM, UM, MAKING IT,

16:50YOU KNOW, BIGGER AND BETTER AND

16:51,UH, GETTING A LOT OF JUNIORS

16:53AND ADULTS INVOLVED IN THE GAME

16:55AND, UH, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY

16:57THRILLED WE REALIZE, YOU KNOW,

16:58THE USGA IS A HUGE ORGANIZATION

17:00AND FOR THEM TO RECOGNIZE THE

17:02COURTS, UM, IS AN ABSOLUTE

17:03HONOR.

17:04SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.

17:06THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND TO

17:08THE CITY.

17:08THANK YOU.

17:14CONGRATULATIONS.

17:14>> YOU'RE.

17:15>> OKAY.

17:21>> THE NEXT RECOGNITION IS

17:22SPECIAL POPULATIONS.

17:23UH, FLORIDA'S RECREATIONAL PARK

17:26ASSOCIATION INNOVATIVE PROGRAM

17:28AWARD.

17:54THE CAPE CORAL PARKS AND

17:55RECREATION FREE TO BE SMITH

17:57POPULATED SPECIAL POPULATION

17:59CENTERS.

17:59PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT OUR

18:01TALKS SPACE SUPPORT GROUP HAS

18:03BEEN SELECTED AS THE WINNER OF

18:04THE 2026 FLORIDA RECREATION AND

18:07PARKS ASSOCIATION INNOVATIVE

18:09PROGRAMING AWARD IN THE HEALTH

18:11CATEGORY.

18:12THIS STATEWIDE RECOGNITION

18:14CELEBRATES INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS

18:15THAT MAKE A MEANINGFUL

18:16DIFFERENCE IN THE HEALTH AND

18:17WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE WE

18:18SERVE.

18:19TALKSPACE PROVIDES A SUPPORTIVE

18:21AND INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT WHERE

18:23PARTICIPANTS CAN CONNECT, SHARE

18:25EXPERIENCES, DEVELOP COPING

18:26SKILLS AND STRENGTHEN THEIR

18:28EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING.

18:29WE ARE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF OUR

18:31STAFF, PARTICIPANTS AND

18:32EVERYONE WHO HELPED MAKE THIS

18:33PROGRAM A SUCCESS AND WE ARE

18:35HONORED TO HAVE THE FREE TO BE

18:37SMITH SPECIAL POPULATIONS

18:38CENTER RECOGNIZED BY PA FOR OUR

18:41COMMITMENT TO CREATING

18:42IMPACTFUL PROGRAMS IN OUR

18:45COMMUNITY.

18:50UH JOBE TRAILER PARKS AND

18:51RECREATION DIRECTOR UM, I GOTTA

18:53SAY I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS

18:55GROUP.

18:55UH, ESPECIALLY OUR SPECIAL POPS

18:56GROUP.

18:56THEY WORK HARD TO CREATE A

18:58WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR

19:00EVERYBODY AND IF YOU GO DOWN

19:01THERE, YOU CAN JUST SEE THE

19:02SMILES AND THE HAPPINESS THAT

19:03THEY PROVIDE EVERY DAY.

19:04THIS PROGRAM IS JUST ANOTHER

19:05EXAMPLE OF THEIR SUCCESS AND I

19:07LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED

19:08SUCCESS WORKING WITH THEM.

19:09I'M PROUD TO BE THE DIRECTOR OF

19:11THE DEPARTMENT AND I'M VERY

19:12PROUD TO HAVE YOU ALL AS PART

19:13OF OUR TEAM.

19:14THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:15AND UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY A

19:16FEW WORDS MELANIE, YOU WANT TO.

19:19UM I JUST WANTED TO SAY I AM

19:21VERY PROUD OF MY TWO STAFF

19:22RIGHT HERE REBECCA AND SARAH.

19:24UH, THEY.

19:24>> CAME.

19:25UP WITH THIS PROGRAM AND THEY

19:26HAVE MADE AN IMPACT.

19:28ON QUITE A FEW OF OUR

19:29INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE LOST

19:30FAMILY.

19:31UM, ARE GOING THROUGH EMOTIONAL

19:32TIMES.

19:33AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANYONE.

19:34>> TO TALK TO.

19:34SO THIS, UM, REALLY IMPORTANT

19:36GROUP HAS MADE A BIG.

19:37DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF SOME

19:40OF OUR INDIVIDUALS.

19:56THANK YOU.

19:56>> CONGRATULATIONS AND GREAT

20:05WORK YOU DO.

20:07UH, WITHIN THAT ORGANIZATION.

20:10OKAY.

20:11ITEM SEVEN LAST CALL FOR ANY

20:12COMMENT CARDS.

20:12SO IF ANYONE DOES WANT TO SPEAK

20:15ON CITIZENS INPUT MAKE SURE YOU

20:16FILL OUT A CODE.

20:17UH, ITEM EIGHT IS CITIZENS

20:19INPUT TIME.

20:20MAXIMUM OF 60 MINUTES IS SAID

20:22ON INPUT OF CITIZENS ON MATTERS

20:24CONCERNING CITY GOVERNMENT

20:26THREE MINUTES FOR INDIVIDUAL.

20:26PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR

20:28NAME FOR THE RECORD.

20:29CITIZENS ARE GIVEN THE

20:30OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD

20:31CONCERNING MATTERS SCHEDULED ON

20:32THE COUNCIL AGENDA AND ANY

20:34OTHER MATTERS PERTINENT TO THE

20:36CITY IN.

20:37>> ORDER.

20:37TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY SYSTEM

20:38AND HOLD A PUBLIC BUSINESS

20:40MEETING AND ENSURE THAT

20:41INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT EMBARRASSED

20:42OR ARREST AS A RESULT OF THEIR

20:44EXERCISE OF RIGHT OF FREE

20:45SPEECH.

20:45THE CITY ESTABLISHED RULES BY A

20:48RESOLUTION AND ADOPTED BY THE

20:49CITY COUNCIL SPEAKERS REQUIRED

20:51TO MAINTAIN PROPER DECORUM AT

20:53ALL TIMES.

20:54ONLY THE PERSON RECOGNIZED BY

20:56THE MAYOR SHALL BE ADDRESSING

20:57THE CITY COUNCIL OR MAKE ANY

20:59AUDIBLE REMARKS DURING THE

21:00BUSINESS PORTION OF THE

21:02MEETING.

21:02ALSO REMEMBER TO UH ADDRESS THE

21:05COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND NOT AS

21:06AN INDIVIDUAL UNAUTHORIZED

21:08REMARKS, STOMPING OF FEET,

21:09WHISTLING AND SIMILAR

21:11DEMONSTRATIONS SHALL NOT BE

21:12PERMITTED DURING THE BUSINESS

21:13MEETING.

21:13NO PERSON IS PERMITTED TO

21:15INTERRUPT THE COUNCIL

21:17PROCEEDINGS ON ANY OF THE

21:18COMMENTS OF ANY PERSONS THAT

21:20HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED AS THE

21:22SPEAKER.

21:22NO PERSON IS PERMITTED TO

21:24BEHAVE IN A DISORDERLY MANNER

21:25BY SHOUTING, YELLING, WHISTLING

21:27,CHANNELING, SINGING, DANCING

21:29,CLAPPING, FOOT STOMPING,

21:31CHEERING, JEERING OR ENGAGE IN

21:33ANY OTHER DISRUPTIVE DISPLAY

21:35DURING A COUNCIL MEETING.

21:35NO PERSON IS PERMITTED TO BE TO

21:38REFUSE TO FOLLOW THE

21:39INSTRUCTIONS OR THE RULES THAT

21:40HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY CITY

21:42COUNCIL AND IT MUST COMPLY TO

21:44THE POLICIES AND RULES.

21:45UH ANY PERSON WHO ENGAGES IN

21:47ANY BEHAVIOR IS PROHIBITED UH,

21:49HEREIN AND WHO IS BOISTEROUS OR

21:52DISPLAYING ANY DISRUPTIVE

21:53MANNER COULD BE ASKED TO LEAVE

21:55.

21:55MADAM CITY CLERK, WOULD YOU

21:56CALL THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL.

21:58LOUIE NAVARRO AND MIKE VEST TO

22:01RALLY?

22:37GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR COUNCIL.

22:39LOUIE NAVARRO.

22:40ELDERLY CITIZEN OF CAPE CORAL.

22:43GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK, MAYOR.

22:45UH, WE'RE PRAYING FOR YOU.

22:49TODAY I WANT TO FOCUS ON CRA

22:51PARTNERSHIPS AND ENFORCEMENT OF

22:54CURRENT CITY INVESTMENTS.

22:56I DON'T APPROVE OF IT.

22:57I KNOW YOU'RE PLANNING MORE.

22:59I HAD A PROBLEM AND SLIP AWAY.

23:03I DO WANT TO GO OVER THAT

23:06BRIEFLY.

23:07I HAVE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT

23:09MY TREATMENT THERE.

23:10I'VE BEEN GOING THERE A FEW

23:11WEEKS.

23:11I LOOK AT THE FLAG SOMETHING

23:13FOR MY DEPRESSION.

23:15I KNOW THE MAGIC MIKE AND B I

23:18WATCH A LITTLE FOOTBALL WAS

23:19CLOSING.

23:20I ALWAYS PUT UP THESE JOKES AND

23:22I EVEN SEND THE CHIEF SIZEMORE

23:24.

23:25UM SO THIS GIRL I GUESS SHE'S

23:30STANDING AT THE BAR.

23:31SHE SAW IT AND I JUST LAUGHED

23:33WITH HER.

23:34BUT THEN TWO FELLOWS AMIGOS HE

23:37SAID I WASN'T THERE, AMIGO.

23:38THEY CAME UP TO HAVE AN

23:41ALTERCATION THE NIGHT BAR MAN

23:45TOOK THEM AWAY.

23:47BUT I DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH

23:49THIS, FOLKS.

23:50YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF

23:52THAT.

23:53WHY IS A MINOR ALLOWED AT THE

23:55BAR?

23:56AND THE GENERAL MANAGER JOHN

23:59SAID HE CAN DO ANYTHING HE

24:01WANTS AS FAR AS RUNNING THE

24:04PLACE.

24:05NOW THAT'S NOT TRUE.

24:06AND I REALLY HAD A PANIC ATTACK

24:08AND I DIDN'T STAND DOWN.

24:11RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE THE CITY

24:14MANAGER CONVENE THE OVERSIGHT

24:15COMMITTEE BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL

24:18RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTIONS ALL

24:21THE PEOPLE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH

24:23THE NOISE.

24:24YOU NEVER GET IT DONE.

24:26FILE A REPORT CALLED A, UH,

24:31QUALITY OF LIFE.

24:31WHAT THE DEVIL IS THAT?

24:35RECOMMENDATIONS CITY MANAGER

24:37OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE INVESTIGATE

24:41THIS.

24:41WHY CAN A MINORS BE ALLOWED AT

24:44THE BAR?

24:44SO I GET THREATENED.

24:47YOU NEED A KPD OFFICER FOR

24:50SECURITY.

24:50THIS IS A FAMILY PARK.

24:52YOU HAVE NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS

24:54ABOUT THE NOISE.

24:55I MENTIONED IT AND IT STILL

24:57NEVER GOES AWAY FOR THOSE POOR

24:58PEOPLE.

24:59NO MORE PARTNERSHIPS FOLKS.

25:01WE'RE PAYING TAX MONEY OUT OF

25:04THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S C.R.A.

25:07AND THE COUNTY GIVES US MONEY,

25:09WE ARE STILL PAYING FOR PEOPLE

25:11TO RUN A PLACE LIKE THAT AND

25:13AGGRAVATE ME.

25:15I WANT INVESTIGATION YOU'RE IN

25:16CHARGE, CITY MANAGER.

25:19NO MORE PARTNERSHIPS, YACHT

25:22CLUB ETCETERA.

25:23FIND ANOTHER WAY FOLKS.

25:25IT'S OUR TAX DOLLARS.

25:28CITY UTILITIES.

25:29THEY NEVER CONTACTED ME.

25:31THANK YOU.

25:32MR. RYAN AND THE SUPERVISOR.

25:33WE HEARD THAT STORY.

25:34IT'S OLD NEWS.

25:39THANK YOU.

25:39>> THANK YOU MAYOR.

25:41GLAD TO SEE YOU'VE RETURNED.

25:55YOU'VE GOT TO RESTORE THAT

25:56MACHINE HERE.

25:58AND I'LL BLESS YOU.

26:06I'M SORRY.

26:09>> YOU'RE RIGHT.

26:11GOOD AFTERNOON.

26:12MIKE FESTA RALEIGH NORTH WEST

26:14CAPE.

26:16UM, THE ASSESSMENTS THAT YOU.

26:18>> WANT TO PUT ON US THE $6,000

26:20.

26:21I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO US.

26:23UM.

26:24>> WE NEED ROADS, WE NEED RED

26:27LIGHTS.

26:27WE NEED STOP SIGNS.

26:28WE NEED SIDEWALKS FOR OUR

26:30CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T

26:32STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

26:33NIGHT WAITING FOR A SCHOOL BUS

26:35.

26:35THEY CAN'T STAND ON THE GRASS.

26:36THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THAT,

26:38CHRIS.

26:38THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD SPEND

26:40YOUR MONEY NOT ON BEAUTIFYING

26:42GULF STREAM TROPICANA YUCATAN.

26:45KISMET.

26:46THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

26:47I'M THERE 23 YEARS.

26:49THE ROADS ARE FINE.

26:50THESE GUYS THAT ARE DOING THE

26:52JOB, THEY'RE NOT DOING THE JOB

26:54THE RIGHT WAY.

26:54AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY

26:55SHOULD COVER THE ROADS SO WE

26:57DON'T HAVE TO BRING ALL THIS

26:58GARBAGE INTO OUR HOMES.

26:59WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT

27:01OUR CARS GETTING BEAT UP EVERY

27:02DAY.

27:03THIS IS RIDICULOUS THE WAY THE

27:04JOB IS BEING DONE.

27:05I THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD

27:07RETHINK THIS AND AND TAKE THIS

27:10ASSESSMENT OFF OF ALL OF US OF

27:13$6,000.

27:14IT'S NOT FAIR.

27:16EVERYBODY PAYS A CERTAIN AMOUNT

27:17FOR THE WATER AND SEWER COMING

27:19IN I GET IT.

27:20I'LL PAY IT.

27:21BUT THAT EXTRA $6,000 TO

27:23BEAUTIFY ROADS.

27:24YOU HAVE MONEY STATE MONEY, TAX

27:26MONEY.

27:27YOU HAVE, UH, ALL DIFFERENT

27:29FUNDS.

27:29YOU COULD GET THIS THROUGH THE

27:30FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

27:31WHY ARE YOU COMING AFTER US?

27:33I FEEL LIKE THIS IS EXTORTION.

27:35YOU'RE COMING AFTER ME FOR

27:36EXTORTION.

27:36YOU'RE EXTORTING THE WRONG

27:38PEOPLE.

27:38DON'T DO THIS TO US.

27:3923 YEARS I'M HERE.

27:41I CAME HERE ONCE WITH THE

27:44GARBAGE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE A

27:45BUNCH OF MUCH TO EXCUSE ME, BUT

27:47ANYWAY, TO GET BACK TO THIS, I

27:50THINK IT'S NOT FAIR TO US UH,

27:51PEOPLE IN THE NORTHWEST.

27:53WE'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.

27:55I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT I

27:56CAN'T AFFORD IT.

27:57I CAN'T AFFORD IT.

27:58BUT I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I HAVE

28:00TO DO TO TAKE CARE OF MY

28:01PROPERTY.

28:02IF YOU COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT

28:04THIS, I APPRECIATE IF COUNCIL

28:05DOES SOMETHING AND JUST DISCUSS

28:07THIS IN A BETTER WAY AND TRY TO

28:09TAKE THIS $6,000.

28:11YOU FIGURE IT OUT.

28:12THEY WANT TO DO 41,000 THEN

28:15THEY WANT THEY WANT TO CHARGE

28:16US BETWEEN 25 AND 5000 TO HOOK

28:20UP.

28:20YOU'RE TALKING OVER $46,000.

28:23WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PULL

28:24THIS MONEY?

28:25I GOT A TREE IN THE BACK OF MY

28:26HOUSE.

28:26GROWING HUNDREDS.

28:27AIN'T HAPPENING ANYWAY.

28:30THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

28:32THANK YOU.

28:33>> DARLA.

28:35>> NO APPLAUSE PLEASE.

28:36THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.

28:37DARLA GRIFFITH.

28:40>> YOU.

28:40WANT TO.

28:40PUT YOUR HANDS UP LIKE THIS

28:41QUIETLY?

28:43DARLA GRIFFITHS AND LISA COHEN

28:46ATKINSON.

28:47GO GO GO.

28:49>> YOU BROKE.

28:54WHAT I.

28:55>> CAME TO.

28:55SAY HAS CHANGED A FEW THINGS.

28:58NUMBER ONE, I'M A LONG TIME

29:00RESIDENT OF CAPE CORAL FOR 38

29:04YEARS.

29:04I'VE WATCHED THE CITY GROW.

29:07I'VE WATCHED CITY EXPAND.

29:09AND ONE THING I WANT TO ASK

29:12RESPECTFULLY THIS CITY COUNCIL

29:14THAT'S SITTING BEFORE US IS THE

29:18ONES THAT KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN

29:19VOTED OUT.

29:21GO ON VACATION, TAKE A BREATHER

29:24.

29:25TABLE EVERYTHING THAT COMES

29:28BEFORE YOU FOR THE NEXT ELECTED

29:30CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

29:36A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU

29:38HAVE ON THE TABLE AS A CITIZEN

29:43OF CAPE CORAL THAT HAS WORN

29:48MANY, MANY DIFFERENT HATS OVER

29:50HERE.

29:53INCLUDING RAISING A FAMILY.

29:58TAKE A BREATHER GUYS.

30:01THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY.

30:03LET THE NEXT MAYOR JUST SLIDE

30:07WITH THE AGENDA SHOULD BE AND

30:10THE CITY COUNCIL THAT'S BEEN

30:11VOTED OUT.

30:13LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD FOR

30:15THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE

30:18REELECTED TO REPRESENT.

30:21AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO JUST

30:25TABLE EVERYTHING THAT COMES

30:27ACROSS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

30:29THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

30:31I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

30:34SPEAK.

30:35AND AS FAR AS THE IEP PROJECT

30:40OH GUYS I SELECTED A HOUSE JUST

30:44BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS COMING

30:45DOWN THE ROAD.

30:48THANK YOU.

30:50THANK YOU.

30:50>> NO CLOSER.

30:55WE WANT TO CONTINUE I SHOULD

30:57LEAVE.

31:01THAT.

31:02>> GOOD EVENING.

31:06>> COUNCIL AND MAYOR LISA COHEN

31:07ATKINSON, SOUTHWEST CAPE.

31:09I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE

31:10STANDING ON THE EDGE OF A $330

31:13MILLION DECISION REGARDING THE

31:14NORTH THREE UTILITY EXPANSION

31:16PROJECT.

31:16THIS IS A STAGGERING SUM OF

31:18MONEY THAT WILL BIND THIS CITY

31:20AND INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS TO

31:21DECADES OF PUNISHMENT

31:23ASSESSMENT AND PUNISHING

31:24ASSESSMENTS.

31:24BUT WHAT IS MOST OFFENSIVE

31:26ISN'T THE PRICE TAG IT'S THE

31:27TIMING.

31:28YOU HAVE SCHEDULED THE FINAL

31:30ASSESSMENT HEARING FOR NOVEMBER

31:312ND, JUST 24 HOURS BEFORE

31:34ELECTION DAY ON NOVEMBER 3RD.

31:36LET'S CALL THIS WHAT IT IS A

31:37COORDINATED ATTEMPT TO JAM

31:39THROUGH A MASSIVE FINANCIAL

31:40BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS BEFORE

31:42THEY EVEN HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE

31:43THEIR BALLOTS COUNTED TO ALLOW

31:46A CHANGE IN COUNCIL ON THEIR

31:47WAY OUT THE DOOR TO LEGALLY

31:49BIND THIS CITY TO A THIRD OF $1

31:51BILLION CONTRACT RIGHT BEFORE

31:53AN ELECTION IS A TOTAL BETRAYAL

31:55OF THE PUBLIC TRUST.

31:57WE KNOW THAT THE CONTRACTOR'S

31:59PRICING IS LEGALLY GUARANTEED

32:01AND GOOD UNTIL JANUARY OF 2027.

32:04SO I ASK YOU WHY THE RUSH?

32:07WHY PUSH THIS VOTE TO THE DAY

32:09BEFORE THE ELECTION?

32:10WE HAVE TRIED TALKING TO YOU.

32:12WE'VE PACKED THIS ROOM.

32:13WE BEGGED YOU TO LISTEN AND YOU

32:16REFUSE.

32:17AND YOU HAVE LEFT ME WITH NO

32:18CHOICE.

32:19I LIVE IN THE SOUTHWEST CAPE.

32:20MY ASSESSMENTS ARE IN AND PAID

32:23.

32:23I DON'T EVEN HAVE A FINANCIAL

32:24DOG IN THE FIGHT FOR MY OWN

32:26PROPERTY.

32:26BUT I HAVE DECIDED TO PUT MY

32:28MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH IS.

32:33LAST WEEK WE OFFICIALLY

32:35RETAINED ATTORNEY ANTHONY

32:37SABATINI TO STOP THIS COUNCIL

32:39FROM COMMITTING RESIDENTS TO

32:40THIS CONTRACT.

32:42TODAY WE ISSUED A FORMAL PRESS

32:44RELEASE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I

32:44AM PREPARED TO TAKE EVERY

32:46NECESSARY LEGAL AVENUE

32:48INCLUDING AN EMERGENCY

32:49INJUNCTION.

32:50I AM NOT JUST TALKING ANYMORE

32:52TO A COUNCIL THAT REFUSES TO

32:54LISTEN.

32:54I AM ACTING.

32:55AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I'M

32:57RUNNING FOR MAYOR TO PROTECT

32:59THE COMMUNITY THAT I LOVE FROM

33:00THIS EXACT TYPE OF GOVERNMENT

33:02OVERREACH.

33:02TO DO THE RIGHT THING TONIGHT.

33:05REVERSE YOUR PREVIOUS DECISION

33:07AND POSTPONE THE UPCOMING VOTE

33:08AND LET THE INCOMING VOTED

33:11APPROVED COUNCIL MAKE THIS

33:12CALL.

33:12THANK YOU.

33:13YEAH.

33:14>> OH.

33:16>> PLEASE.

33:18>> WE CONTINUE.

33:19>> TO HAVE CLAPS.

33:19>> WE WILL TAKE A BREAK.

33:21ROB JENSEN.

33:22>> AND ROB JENSEN AND ANNETTE

33:26WARREN.

33:32RIGHT.

33:33>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

33:40>> AND COUNCIL.

33:40>> AND THANK YOU FOR THE

33:41OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU

33:42TONIGHT.

33:42MY NAME IS ROB JENSEN.

33:43I LIVE IN THE NORTHWEST CAPE.

33:44I LIVE EAST OF OLD BERN STONE

33:46ROAD AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO

33:48TALK ABOUT THE UIP PHASE THREE

33:50ASSESSMENT.

33:51I'VE MET SUCH THE COUNCIL

33:53REGARDING MY CONCERNS AND I

33:54UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO

33:55HAVE A SEPARATE HEARING TO

33:55DISCUSS THE ROADWAY

33:56IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT ASSESSMENT

33:58.

33:58FOR THE RECORD I DO NOT SUPPORT

34:00THOSE BUT I WAIT AND WITHHOLD

34:02COMMENT ON THAT PROJECT TO TELL

34:04YOU HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.

34:05I AM HERE TONIGHT, HOWEVER, TO

34:07COMMENT ON THE METHOD OF COST

34:08ALLOCATION THAT STAFF HAS

34:10CHOSEN TO USE FOR THE UP

34:11PROJECT.

34:11I WANT TO BE CLEAR I'M NOT HERE

34:13TO ARGUE THE COUNCIL'S

34:14AUTHORITY TO MOVE US ONTO THE

34:16SYSTEM.

34:16I DO SUPPORT THAT.

34:18I'M HERE SPECIFICALLY TO

34:19DISCUSS THE FAIRNESS AND

34:21LEGALITY OF THE CURRENT METHOD

34:22OF ASSESSMENT.

34:23I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A

34:25NUMBER OF METHODS THAT CITY

34:26STAFF COULD CHOOSE TO ALLOCATE

34:27THE COST.

34:28I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE

34:29AWARE OF ALL OF THOSE METHODS

34:31INCLUDING UNINTENDED

34:33CONSEQUENCES BETWEEN THEM.

34:33THE ULTIMATE GOAL SHOULD BE TO

34:36ALLOCATE THE IMPACT

34:38PROPORTIONATELY TO THE IMPACTS

34:40AS CURRENTLY OUTLINED THERE ARE

34:40TWO COSTS THE UTILITY

34:42INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE CAPITAL

34:43FACILITY EXPANSION.

34:44I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS AND

34:45I'LL GO OVER BOTH OF THOSE VERY

34:47QUICKLY.

34:48BY WAY BACKGROUND.

34:49MY HOME IS ON THE INTERIOR OF

34:50AN ELBOW IN THE NORTHWEST CAPE.

34:51AS SUCH IT HAS VERY LIMITED

34:54STREET FRONTAGE MUCH LESS THAN

34:56THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS

34:57HAVE.

34:58HOWEVER BECAUSE IT'S PIE SHAPED

35:00AND HAS LIMITED STREET FRONTAGE

35:02,IT HAS A SQUARE FOOTAGE OF

35:0517,000FT2 AND MY HOME IS A

35:07TYPICAL 20 300 SQUARE FOOT HOME

35:09AS CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED BY

35:10STAFF.

35:10MY UTILITY ASSESSMENT WILL BE

35:12BASED ON MY LOT SIZE RATHER

35:14THAN USE AND THE SIZE OF MY

35:15HOME.

35:15BASED ON THAT MY ASSESSMENT

35:17WILL BE NEARLY $70,000 AS

35:20COMPARED TO THE $41,000 THAT MY

35:22NEIGHBORS WILL PAY FOR THE SAME

35:23SIZE OR LARGER HOME.

35:25MY FIRST ISSUE IS THAT THE

35:27INFRASTRUCTURE SIZING WAS NOT

35:28INCREASED BASED ON MY LOT SIZE.

35:30IN FACT I DOUBLE LOT SIZING WAS

35:32EVEN INCLUDED IN THE ANALYSIS

35:34FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

35:35SO WHY SHOULD I PAY AN

35:36ADDITIONAL COST BECAUSE MY LOT

35:38IS LARGER.

35:38I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL

35:40TO CONSIDER THE INTENDED

35:42OUTCOME AS A RESULT OF STAFF'S

35:43METHOD OF ALLOCATING COSTS AND

35:45DIRECT STAFF TO DEFINE A COST

35:46ALLOCATION THAT REFLECTED THAT

35:48USAGE.

35:48I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO PAY MY

35:49FAIR SHARE.

35:50TO DATE I'VE NOT SEEN AN

35:52ALLOCATION ANALYSIS THAT

35:54ALLOCATES THE UTILITY BASED ON

35:55RESIDENTIAL LOT SIZE.

35:56IF I'M TO PAY 70% MORE THAN MY

35:58NEIGHBOR, I SHOULD BE ALLOWED

35:59TO BUILD A SECOND HOME ON MY

36:00LOT BASED ON UTILITY CAPACITY I

36:03PAID FOR MY SECOND METHOD.

36:05THE SECOND ISSUE IS THE

36:06FINANCING METHODOLOGY PROPOSED

36:08BY STAFF.

36:09MY QUESTION IS HOW IS THAT

36:11GOING TO BE FINANCED?

36:12WHAT'S THE BOND RATE AND WHAT

36:14IS THAT GOING TO BE PASSED ON

36:14TO THE CITIZENS?

36:16SO IN SUMMARY I SUPPORT YOUR

36:18EFFORTS TO PLACE THE ENTIRE

36:20CITY ON A MUNICIPAL SYSTEM.

36:21I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU WITH THE

36:23DECISIONS YOU HAVE TO MAKE, BUT

36:24I DO ASK THAT YOU ASK STAFF TO

36:25PROVIDE WITH DETAILS ON VARIOUS

36:27COST ALLOCATIONS TO BE

36:29CONSIDERED.

36:29ASK THEM HOW THEY CAN JUSTIFY

36:30TO ADJACENT HOMES EXACTLY THE

36:32SAME SIZE HAVING A 30,000

36:34DIFFERENCE IN ASSESSMENTS.

36:36THIS IS A SECOND SIGNIFICANT

36:38COST TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

36:39MY $70,000 REPRESENTS.

36:41THANK YOU.

36:4210S MORE.

36:43I'M SORRY WE GOT A.

36:44>> LOT OF PEOPLE.

36:44I APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU.

36:56HELLO.

36:56>> MAYOR COUNCIL.

36:57ANNETTE WARREN.

36:58NORTHWEST CAPE CORAL.

36:59TONIGHT I.

37:00>> WANT TO.

37:01>> ADDRESS THREE ISSUES.

37:02>> THAT MAY SEEM UNRELATED BUT

37:03TO ME THEY'RE ONE.

37:03AND THERE'S ONE THING IN

37:05COMMON.

37:06PROTECTING CAPE CORAL RESIDENTS

37:07AND MAKING SURE THAT CLEAR

37:09UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY ARE

37:10BEING.

37:10ASKED TO PAY FOR.

37:12FIRST BIMINI EAST.

37:13I SUPPORT.

37:15RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF

37:16BIMINI BASIN.

37:16I WANT THIS PROJECT TO SUCCEED

37:19BUT WITH THIS MUCH PUBLIC LAND.

37:20MONEY AND INCENTIVES.

37:22INVOLVED I NEED.

37:23STRONGER ASSURANCES ABOUT WHAT

37:24HAPPENS IF IT DOESN'T.

37:26THE AGREEMENT PROTECTS THE.

37:28CITY IF DEVELOPER DOESN'T PAY

37:29FOR THE LAND.

37:30MY CONCERN IS WHAT HAPPENS

37:32AFTER THE PARCELS ARE RELEASED

37:33FROM THE CITY'S MORTGAGE.

37:35CONSTRUCTION BEGINS AND A

37:37DEVELOPER BECOMES UNABLE TO

37:39FINISH.

37:39WHERE IS THE COMPLETION

37:42GUARANTEE?

37:43WHERE IS THE PERFORMANCE

37:45SECURITY OR LETTER OF CREDIT

37:46THAT PROTECTS TAXPAYERS FROM

37:48HAVING TO SECURE, MAINTAIN,

37:51DEMOLISH OR COMPLETELY.

37:52OR COMPLETE A.

37:54PARTIALLY COMPLETED PROJECT?

37:56I ALSO I WOULD ALSO LIKE

37:59COUNCIL TO ASK WHY THE MAJOR

38:01MILESTONES REQUIRE THE

38:03DEVELOPER TO COMMENCE

38:05CONSTRUCTION RATHER THAN

38:06REQUIRING SUBSTANTIAL

38:08COMPLETION BY A SPECIFIC TIME.

38:10SECOND.

38:11NORTH THREE WEST OF BURNT STORE

38:13ROAD.

38:13I SUPPORT THE ALTERNATIVE FIVE

38:15ROADWAY DESIGN AND THE.

38:17MULTIMODAL IMPROVEMENTS.

38:18WITH THE INCREASING NUMBER OF

38:20BICYCLES AND E-BIKES AND GOLF

38:21COURSE IN THE NORTHWEST.

38:22I BELIEVE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS

38:25WILL BECOME INCREASINGLY

38:27IMPORTANT TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

38:28WHAT I QUESTION IS HOW WE ARE

38:31PAYING FOR THEM.

38:32THE CITY'S OWN PRESENTATION

38:34SHOWS A DIFFERENCE OF

38:36APPROXIMATELY $5,765 PER

38:39EQUIVALENT PARCEL.

38:40RESIDENTS UNDERSTOOD THAT THESE

38:42ENHANCED ROADWAYS.

38:43IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE FUNDED

38:44THROUGH MOBILITY TRANSPORTATION

38:47RELATED REVENUES AND NOT ADDED

38:49TO THE UP PAYMENT.

38:50I'M ASKING THE CITY TO CLEARLY

38:52SHOW RESIDENTS HOW THE 35.5

38:55MILLION ALTERNATIVE FIVE COST

38:57IS BEING FUNDED.

38:58HOW MUCH IS BEING ASSESSED TO

39:00PROPERTY OWNERS AND WHY ROADWAY

39:02ENHANCEMENTS ARE INCLUDED

39:04WITHIN THE WASTEWATER AND ROAD

39:06IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENTS.

39:07I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW IF

39:09THE CITY WILL BE USING

39:10RECLAIMED WATER ON THE GOLF

39:12COURSE.

39:13FINALLY WEST CAPE ESTATES.

39:15I HAVE HEARD SERIOUS.

39:16CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS WHO

39:17BELIEVE PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS

39:19AFFECT WHETHER THEY ARE

39:20REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO THE TO

39:21THE UP.

39:22I AM NOT PREPARED TO SAY THE

39:24RESIDENTS ARE RIGHT OR THAT THE

39:25CITY IS RIGHT UNTIL I SEE THE

39:26CONTROLLING DOCUMENTS.

39:27I'M ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY

39:29AND STAFF TO PUBLICLY IDENTIFY

39:31AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS

39:32,ORDINANCES, PERMITS AND OTHER

39:35DOCUMENTS GOVERNING WEST CAPE

39:36ESTATES AND EXPLAIN IN PLAIN

39:38ENGLISH EXACTLY WHAT THEY

39:40REQUIRE.

39:41THESE ARE MAJOR FINANCIAL

39:42DECISIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

39:44BEFORE WE ASK TAXPAYERS TO

39:45ASSUME THE RISK OR PAY AN

39:47ASSESSMENT, THEY DESERVE TO SEE

39:49THE DOCUMENTS, UNDERSTAND THE

39:51NUMBERS AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT

39:52PROTECTIONS ARE IN PLACE.

39:54THANK YOU.

39:55THANK YOU MICHELLE.

39:57THAT'S THE LAST WARNING.

39:59MICHELLE DANIEL AND ROBERT LEE.

40:04I.

40:05>> CAN YOU REPEAT THAT?

40:15MICHELLE DANIEL AND ROBERT LEE.

40:26GOOD AFTERNOON.

40:28MICHELLE DANIEL.

40:29NORTHWEST CAPE CORAL.

40:30JUST A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING

40:32MATTER.

40:32UM.

40:33>> FOR THE FUTURE BENEFIT OF

40:34PEOPLE PREPARING.

40:35TRANSCRIPTS AND WATCHING.

40:37>> THE LIVES ON TV WHEN YOU

40:38GUYS.

40:39UM.

40:39>> BRING UP RESOLUTIONS.

40:41AND REFER.

40:42TO THINGS.

40:43WITH.

40:44>> UM, NUMBERS.

40:46IF YOU COULD ALSO.

40:47EXCUSE ME.

40:48>> SAY THE TITLE.

40:50>> OF THE.

40:50DOCUMENT SO THAT PEOPLE

40:51UNDERSTAND WHICH DOCUMENT

40:53YOU'RE.

40:53ACTUALLY REFERRING.

40:54TO INSTEAD OF JUST BY NUMBER.

40:55THAT WOULD BE GREATLY

40:57APPRECIATED.

40:58NEXT I'VE, UM, WRITTEN.

41:00SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO READ.

41:02I'M CALLING FOR AN OFFICIAL

41:04INVESTIGATION INTO POSSIBLE

41:05FRAUD AND NEGLIGENCE ON THE

41:06PART OF THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL

41:09INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO

41:10ITS EMPLOYEES AGENTS

41:12REPRESENTATIVES.

41:12ON MARCH.

41:13>> 12TH, 2025, WILLIAM CORBETT

41:15PRESENTED COUNCIL.

41:16WITH ALTERNATIVE FIVE.

41:18PLANS AND CONFIRMED NOT ONCE

41:20BUT TWICE FUNDING WAS COMING

41:21FROM NANA SAYS TRANSPORTATION.

41:25SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THEN AND

41:27SEPTEMBER.

41:28>> 28TH, 2026.

41:29,THE FUNDING FOR ALTERNATIVE.

41:30FIVE INEXPLICABLY SHIFTED FROM

41:32NON ASSESSED TO ASSESSED.

41:34MY QUESTIONS HAVE.

41:35GONE UNANSWERED TODAY.

41:38THEREFORE I'M OFFICIALLY.

41:39REQUESTING A THOROUGH

41:40INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION

41:41REGARDING WHERE AND WHEN THE

41:43SHIFT OF FUNDS FROM NON

41:45ASSESSED TO ASSESSED OCCURRED.

41:46IF THIS CHANGE WAS EVER.

41:48PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IF

41:50APPROPRIATE.

41:50AMENDMENTS WERE VOTED ON AND

41:51THE NAME OF EACH AND EVERY

41:52COUNCIL MEMBER WHO VOTED IN

41:54FAVOR OF THE CHANGE.

41:56MY POSITION IS EITHER SOMEONE

41:58COMMITTED FRAUD BY REPRESENTING

41:59TO COUNCIL.

42:00NANA SAYS TRANSPORTATION WAS

42:02FUNDING THE PROJECT IN A

42:03DELIBERATE ATTEMPT.

42:04TO GARNER SUPPORT WHICH

42:06ULTIMATELY COUNCIL RELIED ON

42:08WHEN ALL MEMBERS VOTED IN FAVOR

42:10ALTERNATE FIVE OR THERE WAS

42:11SIMPLY AN ERROR AMOUNTING TO

42:14NEGLIGENCE SOMEWHERE THAT NO

42:15ONE CAUGHT.

42:17AS A RESULT OF THIS DISCREPANCY

42:19,THE NOVEMBER 2ND FINAL VOTE

42:21ON THE UP THREE.

42:22AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED CANNOT

42:25AND MUST NOT GO FORWARD AND ANY

42:27POTENTIAL INCREASE DUE TO THE

42:29COST DELAY BASED ON THE ABOVE

42:32POSSIBLE NEED TO REDO THE

42:34CALCULATIONS AND BID FOR UAP

42:35THREE LIES SOLELY ON THE CITY

42:38AND THE SOLELY AND THE CITY

42:39SHOULD BEAR THE COST INCREASE

42:41DIFFERENTIAL IF.

42:42ANY FOR EVERY RESIDENTIAL

42:44PARCEL IN UAP THREE.

42:46COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU STILL HAVE

42:48AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THIS IF

42:49IT WAS A MISTAKE.

42:50DEMAND ALTERNATIVE FIVE BE

42:52FUNDED NOT ASSESSED

42:56TRANSPORTATION AS ORIGINALLY

42:56PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND AVOID

42:58THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY.

43:00THANK YOU.

43:02THANK YOU.

43:02>> OKAY SO EVERYONE KNOWS TO I

43:05BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A

43:06DISCUSSION ON UP UH, IN OUR

43:09NEXT COUNCIL MEETING NEXT WEEK

43:10.

43:10JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS.

43:11>> THANK YOU.

43:15SO.

43:15>> YEAH.

43:20OKAY.

43:21>> OKAY.

43:21UM, HI.

43:23MY NAME IS ROBERT LEE.

43:24I GO BY BOBBY.

43:26UH, THANKS FOR.

43:27HAVING ME OR ALLOWING.

43:29>> ME TO SPEAK.

43:30UH.

43:30>> I LIVE HERE IN THE SOUTHEAST

43:33SECTION OF CAPE CORAL.

43:35UH, RIGHT ON LAKE SARATOGA.

43:37UH, MY BACK YARD BACKS UP TO

43:40THAT AND I'M ASKING FOR

43:42ASSISTANCE TONIGHT.

43:43UH, INSTEAD OF JUST.

43:44CALLING MY.

43:45>> REPRESENTATIVE, I WANTED

43:47EVERYBODY TO KIND OF.

43:48>> BE AWARE.

43:48IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE.

43:49UH.

43:50>> SO THAT MAYBE I COULD GET

43:51SOME HELP.

43:52UH.

43:53>> WHEN I MOVED HERE AND I'M A

43:55BABE TO THIS COMMUNITY HERE.

43:57UH, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE A YEAR

43:58AND A HALF.

43:59UH.

43:59>> WHEN I MOVED HERE, I COULD

44:02SIT OUT.

44:02>> ON.

44:03MY BACK.

44:03DOCK AND I COULD WATCH THE

44:06BOATS AND THE JET SKIS AND THE

44:08KIDS ACROSS THE PARK.

44:09PLAY AND ALL AND IT WAS VERY

44:11NICE.

44:11UH, WHEN WE TOOK OUR JET SKIS

44:14OUT WE NOTICED THAT THE

44:17WATERWAYS WERE.

44:18COVERED IN DEBRIS AND HYACINTH

44:21AND WE NOTICED LAKE KENNEDY

44:24LAST YEAR WAS.

44:25TERRIBLE AND LIKE SARATOGA

44:28REALLY LOOK GOOD DOWN.

44:30FURTHER GOING.

44:31OUT TO TOWARD.

44:32DEL PRADO.

44:33AND LIKE UH.

44:35KILLED KILLARNEY OR UH I CAN'T

44:37REMEMBER THE NAME.

44:38IT WAS IMPASSABLE WITH THE

44:40HYACINTHS.

44:41SO WHAT I'VE DONE RIGHT NOW IS

44:43BACK DURING THE.

44:44SUMMER.

44:45>> UH, PUT IN A REQUEST FOR LEE

44:47COUNTY BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND

44:48THEY CONTROL THAT.

44:49UH, PUT IN A REQUEST FOR THEM

44:52TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE

44:54WATERWAYS AND THEY CAME OUT

44:56WITH AN AIRBOAT AND INSPECT IT

44:57.

44:58I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING AFTER

45:00THAT.

45:01I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE I

45:02DID, UH, BUT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.

45:05>> I.

45:05PUT IN A SECOND REQUEST.

45:07THEY CAME OUT AGAIN.

45:08THEY INSPECTED IT AND THEN IT

45:10WAS A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER THE

45:13AIRBOAT CAME BACK OUT AND RIGHT

45:16AROUND THE PERIMETER AROUND OUR

45:18DOCKS AND ALL THEY SPRAYED IT

45:20WHICH KILLED IT ALL AND IT

45:22HELPED MUD DOCK OUT A LOT BUT

45:26IT LOOKED GOOD.

45:27THEY ADDRESSED NONE OF THE

45:28OTHER WATERWAYS OR THE CENTER

45:30OF LAKE SARATOGA.

45:31RIGHT NOW I HAVE WATCH JET SKIS

45:34AND BOATS AND KIDS BEING PULLED

45:36BY TUBING AND WHEN THEY GET

45:38FLIPPED OFF I AM SCARED ONE OF

45:40THESE KIDS IS GOING TO GET TIED

45:42UP IN THESE HIGH SET AND WE'RE

45:44GOING TO HAVE AN ISSUE.

45:45SO I AM ASKING FOR SOME

45:48INTERVENTION HERE.

45:49IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WITH CAPE.

45:51CORAL THAT CAN GET WITH THE LEE

45:53COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE AND HELP

45:55GET SOME OF THESE WATERWAYS

45:57SPRAYED OR CLEANED UP WITH

45:58THESE HYACINTH BECAUSE RIGHT

46:00NOW LAKE SARATOGA IS TERRIBLE

46:03AND I KNOW WE BOAST THAT WE

46:06HAVE OVER 400 MILES OF CANALS

46:09UH, AND ALL THESE WATERWAYS.

46:11BUT IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE

46:13FRESHWATER CANALS, THERE'S A

46:14GREAT DEAL OF THEM.

46:15THAT ARE CURRENTLY IMPASSABLE.

46:17SO I'M ASKING FOR YOUR HELP.

46:20OKAY.

46:20THANK YOU.

46:21THANK YOU SIR.

46:22JOHN TOURS BECK AND WEST OWEN.

46:26UH.

46:26>> UH, MY.

46:35NAME IS, UH, JOHN TALK.

46:37YEP.

46:37>> I GO BY JACK.

46:39I LIVE IN NORTHWEST CAPE.

46:42I HAVE FIVE THINGS I'D LIKE YOU

46:44TO.

46:44ANSWER FOR ME.

46:45I WANT TO IDENTIFY.

46:47>> I WANT YOU TO IDENTIFY ON

46:49ALTERNATIVE FIVE THE COSTS THAT

46:50ARE INCLUDED IN OUR ASSESSMENT.

46:53I WANT YOU TO.

46:54PROVIDE THE CALCULATION.

46:55>> FOR.

46:56PROPERTY AND EXPLAIN HOW THAT

46:57ALLOCATION AGREES WITH.

46:58EARLIER PUBLIC STATEMENTS ABOUT

47:00NON ASSESSED COSTS.

47:01NUMBER ONE PLEASE PROVIDE AN

47:04ITEMIZED BREAKDOWN OF

47:05ALTERNATIVE FIVE ROADWAY COSTS

47:07INCLUDED IN OUR NORTH THREE

47:09ASSESSMENT FOR O'BYRNE STORE

47:10ROAD INCLUDING ROUNDABOUTS AND

47:13MULTI-USE PATHS.

47:14NUMBER TWO THE CALCULATIONS

47:16SUPPORTING THE REPORTED

47:18APPROXIMATELY $5,700 OR MORE

47:20PER PROPERTY.

47:21WHETHER THIS REFLECTS THE

47:25$5,765 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE

47:28EAST AND THE WEST ASSESSMENT.

47:30NUMBER THREE THE RECORD SHOWING

47:32WHEN AND HOW THAT FUNDING

47:33ALLOCATION WAS APPROVED.

47:35NUMBER FOUR AN EXPLANATION OF

47:37HOW THE ASSESSMENT AGREES WITH

47:39EARLIER STATEMENTS ABOUT NON

47:41ASSESSED COSTS.

47:42AND NUMBER FIVE PLEASE PROVIDE

47:44ANY SPECIAL BENEFITS STUDY

47:47SUPPORTING CHARGING THESE

47:49ROADWAY COSTS TO PROPERTIES

47:51WEST OF BYRNE STORE ROAD WITH

47:54THE UPCOMING COUNCIL MEETING

47:55ASSESSMENT HEARINGS I REQUESTED

47:57ACKNOWLEDGMENT I SENT TO YOU

47:58THREE DAYS AGO.

48:00I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.

48:02UM I GUESS NEXT I KEEP SENDING

48:05IT TO OTHER PEOPLE.

48:06I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE,

48:09UH THE WATER IN THE SEWER ARE

48:1135 AND $36,000.

48:12WHATEVER IT IS, I PAID FOR IT

48:14ONCE AND SOUTH EAST MY WIFE

48:17PAID FOR IT ONCE IN SOUTH WEST.

48:18THIS IS OUR THIRD TIME AROUND.

48:21I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT

48:23PART BUT THE $5,665 I CAN'T

48:27UNDERSTAND IT AND I DON'T THINK

48:28ANYBODY HERE SHOULD BE CHARGED

48:30THAT WHY ISN'T THE WHOLE CITY

48:32EVERYBODY USES THE STREETS.

48:35I STILL HAVE A MINUTE TO

48:36COMPLAIN ANYWAY.

48:38UM I JUST THINK IT'S WRONG AND

48:42I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO FROM

48:44HERE, BUT I MAY HAVE TO GIVE,

48:46UH, MISS ATKINSON SOME MONEY

48:47FOR AN ATTORNEY.

48:48SO ANYWAY.

48:51THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.

48:52THANK YOU.

48:53>> THANKS FOR.

48:58HELLO, WEST.

48:59ON TONIGHT I STAND.

49:01>> WITH MY BACK TO THE COUNCIL

49:02THE CITY.

49:04AND I FACE YOU THE TAXPAYERS OF

49:06CAPE CORAL.

49:08I'M DOING THAT FOR A REASON.

49:10WHEN COUNCILMAN SPEAKS, THE

49:11CAMERA SHOWS THE COUNCIL.

49:13WHEN THE CITY SPEAKS, THE

49:14CAMERA SHOWS THE CITY.

49:16BUT WHEN TAXPAYERS COME TO THIS

49:18PODIUM TO ADDRESS THEIR ELECTED

49:19OFFICIALS, THE CITY'S BROADCAST

49:21SHOWS OUR BACKS.

49:23WE SPEAK.

49:25WE APPEAR TO BE IGNORED AND THE

49:28QUESTIONS WE ASK GO UNANSWERED.

49:29THAT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE

49:31SPEAKERS, TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS

49:34ROOM AND TO THE TAXPAYERS

49:36WATCHING AT HOME FOR TOO LONG

49:39THIS DISRESPECT HAS CONTINUED.

49:42SO TONIGHT I'M REVERSING IT.

49:45I'M FACING YOU, THE TAXPAYERS

49:46OF CAPE CORAL AND I'M I TELL

49:49YOU ABOUT SOMETHING I FOUND IN

49:50THIS BUDGET YOUR COUNCIL JUST

49:52ADOPTED.

49:53EVERY MAJOR STORM REMINDS US OF

49:55CAPE CORAL IS FLOODING AND

49:56DAMAGE PROBLEMS.

49:58YET IN THIS BUDGET YOUR COUNCIL

50:00ADOPTED STORM WATER SPENDING

50:01WAS SLASHED BY $6.5 MILLION

50:04OVER 13% WHILE PUBLIC SAFETY

50:08INCREASED BY $13.5 MILLION.

50:11CAPE CORAL HASN'T RUN OUT OF

50:13DRAINAGE NEEDS.

50:15LAST FRIDAY I ASKED NEWTON AND

50:18SHADRACK WHETHER THEY THOUGHT

50:19THIS MASTIC BEING PRIORITIES OF

50:20CAPE CORAL TAXPAYERS.

50:21THEY BOTH AVOIDED THE QUESTION.

50:23SO TONIGHT I'M ASKING YOU THE

50:26TAXPAYERS OF CAPE CORAL.

50:27DOES THIS REFLECT YOUR

50:29PRIORITIES?

50:29OH NO.

50:30DOES INCREASING PUBLIC SAFETY

50:32BY $13.5 MILLION, BY SLASHING

50:35STORMWATER SPENDING BY $6.5

50:37MILLION REFLECT HOW YOU WOULD

50:40PRIORITIZE YOUR TAX DOLLARS

50:43NOW.

50:43COUNCIL HAS MADE ITS CHOICE.

50:45NOW MAKE YOURS KNOWN.

50:47TELL YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

50:49TELL THE PEOPLE ASKING FOR YOUR

50:50VOTES.

50:51TELL THEM WHAT YOU BELIEVE

50:53PRICE PRIORITY SHOULD BE

50:54BECAUSE A BUDGET ISN'T JUST A

50:56COLLECTION OF NUMBERS IT'S A

50:57STATEMENT OF PRIORITIES BECAUSE

50:59EVERY TAXPAYER MATTERS.

51:01TURN THE CAMERAS BACK ON US.

51:04LET US CLAP AND GIVE US ANSWER

51:07TO THE PROJECTOR.

51:07THANK YOU.

51:07THANK YOU.

51:08>> ALL RIGHT.

51:12>> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 15

51:13MINUTE BREAK.

51:13UH.

51:14>>

1:08:06ALL RIGHT, I'D LIKE TO CALL

1:08:07THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

1:08:09FIRST OF ALL.

1:08:10BEFORE WE GET GOING.

1:08:13THIS THIS COUNCIL WE'VE HAD

1:08:15THIS DISCUSSION ON CLAPPING.

1:08:16THREE AT LEAST THREE TIMES IN

1:08:18THE LAST SIX, EIGHT MONTHS AND

1:08:21WE'VE ALWAYS KEPT THE POLICY

1:08:23THE SAME.

1:08:24THIS ISN'T MY POLICY.

1:08:25THIS IS A COUNCIL POLICY.

1:08:27SO THIS IS A BUSINESS MEETING.

1:08:29WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT AT A

1:08:31FOOTBALL GAME.

1:08:32WE HAVE.

1:08:33>> A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT NEED TO

1:08:34SPEAK.

1:08:34WE HAVE.

1:08:35>> A.

1:08:35LOT OF BUSINESS ACTUALLY ON THE

1:08:37AGENDA.

1:08:38YOU'RE ONLY.

1:08:39HURTING YOURSELVES BECAUSE

1:08:40THERE'S ONLY A 60 MINUTE

1:08:42TIMELINE WHEN IT COMES TO

1:08:43CITIZENS INPUT.

1:08:45SO PLEASE NO CLAPPING.

1:08:47YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR HANDS UP

1:08:48IN THE AIR QUIETLY.

1:08:49YOU CAN GET THE SAME MESSAGE

1:08:51ACROSS.

1:08:52JUST PLEASE ABIDE BY THE RULES

1:08:54.

1:08:54MADAM CITY CLERK CALL THE NEXT

1:08:57SPEAKER.

1:08:57.

1:08:58MARK CALVIN COOLIDGE AND JOHN

1:09:02BENEDICT.

1:09:02UH.

1:09:03>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND

1:09:09MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

1:09:11FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE WORRIED

1:09:12ABOUT TIME.

1:09:13MR. MAYOR.

1:09:13YOU JUST TOOK 15 MINUTES BUT

1:09:16YET YOU GOT BUSINESS TO TEN.

1:09:17MY NAME IS MARK SAVAGE.

1:09:19I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I

1:09:21BELIEVE CAPE CORAL NEEDS TO

1:09:22TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT THE AT

1:09:23ITS CODE ENFORCEMENT POLICIES

1:09:25AND HOW THOSE POLICIES ARE

1:09:26BEING ENFORCED.

1:09:27I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR CODE

1:09:29ENFORCEMENT.

1:09:30WE NEED REASONABLE CODES

1:09:31ADDRESSING HEALTH, SAFETY,

1:09:32DANGEROUS CONDITIONS, ABANDONED

1:09:33PROPERTY AND LEGITIMATE NEWS

1:09:35NUANCES.

1:09:36BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE

1:09:37BETWEEN PROTECTING A COMMUNITY

1:09:39AND UNNECESSARY CONTROLLING OF

1:09:42RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS THE WAY

1:09:44THEY USE THEIR PROPERTY THEY'RE

1:09:45THE ONES WHO PAY THE TAXES ON

1:09:46THESE PROPERTIES.

1:09:48I'M TALKING ABOUT THE

1:09:50RESTRICTIONS INVOLVING WATER ON

1:09:51THE WRONG DAYS CAMPERS,

1:09:54UTILITIES, TRAILERS AND WHERE

1:09:55RESIDENTS CAN PARK THEIR

1:09:56VEHICLES AND TRAILERS.

1:09:57MY CAMPER WAS PARKED ON AN

1:09:58EMPTY LOT NEXT DOOR NOT QUITE

1:10:00ALL IN THE LOT BUT IT IS WHAT

1:10:02IT IS.

1:10:03IT WAS POSITIONED BEHIND THE

1:10:05TREE NOT SITTING PROMINENTLY

1:10:06OUTSIDE OUT IN THE OPEN YET

1:10:08BECOME A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE

1:10:10.

1:10:11THAT WAS BACK IN APRIL BY THE

1:10:12WAY.

1:10:13CAPE.

1:10:14UH, CAPE CORAL IS NOT ONE GIANT

1:10:16HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.

1:10:18IF SOMEONE CHOOSES TO LIVE IN

1:10:20AN HOA ACCEPTS THOSE

1:10:22RESTRICTIONS.

1:10:22THAT'S THEIR CHOICE.

1:10:23BUT I QUESTION THE HOA STYLE

1:10:25RESTRICTIONS THAT SHOULD BE, UH

1:10:27,NOT IMPOSED ON CITY PEOPLE

1:10:30CITY CITYWIDE PEOPLE SIMPLY

1:10:32TRYING TO REASONABLY STORE AND

1:10:34USE THEIR OWN VEHICLES.

1:10:35CAMPERS AND TRAILERS.

1:10:37I'M NOT.

1:10:38>> I'M NOT.

1:10:39>> A.

1:10:39PERMANENT RESIDENT HERE YET.

1:10:41BUT I'M.

1:10:42WORKING ON IT.

1:10:42>> AND THIS RIGHT HERE MAKES ME

1:10:45NOT WANT TO BE A RESIDENT.

1:10:47THIS REALLY MAKES ME NOT WANT

1:10:49TO BE A RESIDENT AT ALL.

1:10:51COME HERE MORE.

1:10:52OFTEN AND LOOK AROUND CAPE

1:10:54CORAL.

1:10:54YOU KNOW, LET ME BACK UP A

1:10:56SECOND.

1:10:56DEALING WITH THESE RESTRICTIONS

1:10:57IS HONESTLY MAKING ME

1:10:59RECONSIDER THAT DECISION.

1:11:00BUT ANYWAY, LOOK AROUND CAPE

1:11:02CORAL.

1:11:02THERE ARE STORAGE FACILITIES

1:11:04FACILITIES SEEMINGLY

1:11:05EVERYWHERE.

1:11:06IS THAT REALLY WHAT WHAT WE OR

1:11:09YOU GUYS WANT?

1:11:11SHOULD RESIDENTS HAVE TO OWN

1:11:12CAMPERS BOATS UTILITY TRAILERS

1:11:14HAVE TO CONTINUALLY PAY SOMEONE

1:11:15ELSE.

1:11:18I MEAN HONESTLY THAT'S A

1:11:20QUESTION.

1:11:20YOU KNOW YOU'RE ALREADY TAXING

1:11:22THE HECK OUT OF US.

1:11:24WE NEED TO PAY MORE WHEN THEY

1:11:26OWN THAT PROPERTY.

1:11:28I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE

1:11:29RECENT EXPERIENCE WITH CODE

1:11:30ENFORCEMENT MYSELF.

1:11:31YESTERDAY AT APPROXIMATELY

1:11:3312:45 P.M..

1:11:35I HAD AN OFFICER COME BY AND

1:11:37TOLD ME I HAD TO MOVE A UTILITY

1:11:39TRAILER BECAUSE IT WAS PARKED

1:11:40PARTIALLY ON A UH, AN EMPTY

1:11:42LOT.

1:11:44710.

1:11:45I MOVED THERE IMMEDIATELY WHEN

1:11:47I SEEN IT.

1:11:47WHEN I SEEN THE CODE, THE

1:11:49VIOLATION I MOVED IT 710 THIS

1:11:51MORNING NOT EVEN 24 HOURS LATER

1:11:54THE SAME OFFICERS BACK AT MY

1:11:56HOUSE PUTTING ANOTHER CODE

1:11:59VIOLATION ON THE SAME EXACT

1:12:01TRAILER.

1:12:03WHAT THE IS THAT?

1:12:06IT'S UNNECESSARY.

1:12:11UH.

1:12:11>> I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

1:12:12THANK YOU.

1:12:13>> BET YOU CAN'T WAIT.

1:12:24TO HEAR.

1:12:24WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

1:12:27RELAX.

1:12:28>> IT'S EASY.

1:12:28A FEW.

1:12:29>> YEARS AGO I WROTE TO ALL THE

1:12:30COUNCIL ABOUT A CODE ISSUE THAT

1:12:32COST THE CITIZENS MILLIONS OF

1:12:34DOLLARS FOR NO REASON.

1:12:35ONE COUNCIL MEMBER REPLIED AND

1:12:37SAID THAT THEY WOULD ADDRESS IT

1:12:38.

1:12:38IT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED.

1:12:40THE CODE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR

1:12:42NEW HOMES TO HAVE THREE SIX

1:12:44FOOT DECIDUOUS TREES PLANTED IN

1:12:46THE BACKYARD.

1:12:47THE COST WAS ABOUT $600 FIVE

1:12:50YEARS AGO IS PROBABLY 800 BY

1:12:52NOW.

1:12:53THE PROBLEM IS THAT ALMOST ALL

1:12:54OF THOSE TREES DIE BECAUSE

1:12:56NOBODY WANTS THEM.

1:12:57THEY RECEIVE NO CARE BEFORE

1:12:59SOMEONE MOVES IN AND ALMOST

1:13:00ALWAYS NO CARE BY THE OWNER AS

1:13:02WELL.

1:13:03SOME ARE REMOVED AFTER THE

1:13:05INSPECTION.

1:13:06I MADE A STUDY OF THOSE HOMES

1:13:08NEAR US THAT MET THAT CODE

1:13:09REQUIREMENT IN OUR SIX BLOCK

1:13:11AREA, WHICH IS ABOUT HALF NEW

1:13:12HOMES.

1:13:13ONLY TEN TREES REMAIN OUT OF AN

1:13:16ESTIMATED 60 THAT SHOULD BE

1:13:17THERE TO HONOR THE CODE.

1:13:18WHAT DOES IT COST?

1:13:215000 NEW HOMES WERE BUILT IN

1:13:22CAPE CORAL IN 2025.

1:13:25THAT IS 500 OVER 5000 TIMES

1:13:29$600 OVER $3 MILLION ALMOST ALL

1:13:31WASTED.

1:13:32I KNOW THESE FEEL MILLIONS OF

1:13:33DOLLARS ARE CHUMP CHANGE FOR

1:13:35YOU BUT IT IS NOTHING BUT A

1:13:37WASTE FOR CITIZENS.

1:13:38HOWEVER, IN TEN YEARS THAT 3

1:13:41MILLION TURNS INTO 30 MILLION

1:13:43AND THAT'S ENOUGH TO BUILD 60

1:13:44NEW HOMES AT $500,000 EACH.

1:13:48BUT THE BIG COST MAY COME DOWN

1:13:50THE ROAD.

1:13:50I HAVE A NEIGHBOR WHO HAS BEEN

1:13:52IN THE HOUSE FOR OVER TEN

1:13:53YEARS, AND ONE TREE IN THE

1:13:55BACKYARD CONSUMED THE WHOLE

1:13:57BACKYARD MAKING IT UNAVAILABLE

1:13:59FOR FLOWERS, GARDENS AND

1:14:01RECREATION AND ALONE.

1:14:03HE HAD TO REMOVE IT.

1:14:04REMOVAL COST FOR A TREE CAN BE

1:14:06AS MUCH AS $2,000 AND THERE'S

1:14:09ONLY ONE TREE.

1:14:09THREE TREES.

1:14:11GROWN IN.

1:14:11>> MY SMALL BACKYARD WOULD MAKE

1:14:12IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DO ANYTHING IN

1:14:14OUR BACKYARD.

1:14:15NO GRASS, NO FRUIT TREES, NO

1:14:17VEGETABLE GARDEN, NO FLOWERS

1:14:19AND NO RECREATION.

1:14:21YOU SAY IT IS DONE TO

1:14:22COMPENSATE FOR THE LOSS OF

1:14:23TREES IN THE AMAZON SPENDING

1:14:26$600 FOR NO MORE THAN ONE TREE

1:14:27THAT MIGHT EVENTUALLY HAVE TO

1:14:29BE REMOVED DOESN'T COMPENSATE

1:14:32FOR THE AMAZON.

1:14:33UM, AND THEN I CALL YOUR

1:14:36ATTENTION TO THE HUGE CLEARANCE

1:14:37OF TREES BEING DONE IN CAPE

1:14:38CORAL NORTH OF EMBERS FOR

1:14:40EXAMPLE.

1:14:41WE HAVE A NEW HOUSE BACK OF US

1:14:43STILL UNSOLD.

1:14:44ONE TREE IS DEAD, THE OTHER

1:14:46DYING AND WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL

1:14:48HAPPEN TO THE THIRD?

1:14:49I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS FAIR TO

1:14:51FORCE A USELESS EXPENDITURE ON

1:14:54THE CITIZENS OF CAPE CORAL.

1:14:56MOST HOMES WILL PLANT TREES OF

1:14:57THEIR OWN CHOOSING WITHOUT THE

1:14:59DICTATES OF THE CAPE CORAL

1:15:01GOVERNMENT.

1:15:02THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:15:03I DO HAVE COPIES OF THE

1:15:05INFORMATION IF I CAN LEAVE THAT

1:15:06WITH ANYONE.

1:15:07SURE.

1:15:08>> THE CITY CLERK THEIR

1:15:10REPRESENTATIVE.

1:15:10OKAY.

1:15:10THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:15:11TOM SHADRACK AND CHAD LOWES

1:15:13AND.

1:15:23GOOD EVENING, TOM SHADRACK.

1:15:24UH.

1:15:25>> PERMANENT RESIDENT.

1:15:26UM.

1:15:27>> JUST A COUPLE.

1:15:27QUESTIONS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

1:15:29UH.

1:15:30>> SOLID WASTE.

1:15:31I KNOW THAT'S THE BIG ISSUE ON

1:15:32THE ON THE NEW BUSINESS SIDE.

1:15:34UH.

1:15:35>> I KNOW THE TRANSFER.

1:15:37STATION'S A BIG DISCUSSION.

1:15:39I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT UP HERE

1:15:40BEFORE.

1:15:40THERE'S NEVER BEEN A.

1:15:42DISCUSSION FOR THE LAST YEAR

1:15:43THAT I'M AWARE OF IN FRONT OF

1:15:45THE COUNCIL AS THE PURPOSE OR

1:15:47THE BENEFITS PROS AND CONS OF A

1:15:49TRANSFER STATION BEING IN CAPE

1:15:52CORAL.

1:15:52SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE

1:15:54DISCUSSED SO WE UNDERSTAND IT

1:15:56AND WHAT ITS PURPOSE IS AND THE

1:15:58BENEFITS AND THE NEGATIVES.

1:16:02UM THE NEXT.

1:16:02YOU KNOW BIMINI EAST.

1:16:04IT IS A LOPSIDED PROPOSAL

1:16:07FAVORING THE DEVELOPER.

1:16:09UH I'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT

1:16:11BEFORE.

1:16:11I MEAN, YOU MADE A POINT.

1:16:12A LOT OF PEOPLE ARGUE DON'T

1:16:13GIVE UP FOR FREEDOMS PARK

1:16:15GIVING IT AWAY FOR A 99 YEAR

1:16:18LEASE FOR A DOLLAR IS THE SAME

1:16:20THING PEOPLE.

1:16:20COME ON.

1:16:21>> UM, AND THEN AND IT'S A 180

1:16:25PAGE PROPOSAL.

1:16:25I HOPE YOU'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE

1:16:27TO READ IT AND DIGEST IT AND

1:16:29ARE READY TO MAKE A VOTE ON

1:16:30THAT.

1:16:31I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT I DON'T

1:16:32THINK I COULD DO IT IN THIS

1:16:34SHORTER TIME.

1:16:36UM.

1:16:36>> AND THEN I SEE THAT THE

1:16:38PRICE HAS BEEN REDUCED BY $2

1:16:41MILLION SINCE THE TERM SHEET

1:16:42WAS DONE.

1:16:42I NEED AN EXCELLENT EXPLANATION

1:16:45FOR THAT.

1:16:46UM.

1:16:46AND THE THIRD THING I WANT TO

1:16:48TALK ABOUT.

1:16:48UP PEOPLE GOTTA REALIZE A THIRD

1:16:51OF THAT $350 MILLION IS BORNE

1:16:55ON TAXPAYERS AND CURRENT WATER

1:16:58USERS.

1:16:58IT'S NOT JUST THE UAP RESIDENTS

1:17:01THAT PAY THIS BILL.

1:17:03OKAY, 99 MILLION AND THEN IT

1:17:05GOES TO THE UTILITY BILL THAT.

1:17:08EVERYBODY PAYS.

1:17:08THAT'S ON THE SYSTEM AND THEN

1:17:10EVERYBODY HAS TO PAY FROM THE

1:17:12GENERAL FUND FOR ALL THE CITY

1:17:14PROPERTIES AND OTHER EXEMPT

1:17:16PROPERTIES FROM THAT BUT DON'T

1:17:17PAY TAX.

1:17:18THAT'S ON US.

1:17:19SO IT IS AFFECTS.

1:17:21EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY SHOULD

1:17:22BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE.

1:17:23UP PRICE.

1:17:24BECAUSE AGAIN A THIRD OF THAT

1:17:26VALUE IS ON ALL TAXPAYERS AND

1:17:29CURRENT USERS.

1:17:30THANK YOU.

1:17:37HI GOOD.

1:17:38EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

1:17:39UH MY NAME.

1:17:40>> IS CHAD LAWSON.

1:17:41>> I'M A NORTHWEST CAPE

1:17:42RESIDENT BETWN UH, OLD BURN

1:17:43STORE AND UH, BURN STORE ROAD.

1:17:45UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT.

1:17:46THIS IS MY SECOND COUNCIL

1:17:47MEETING EVER.

1:17:48I'VE BEEN IN, UH, CAPE CORAL ON

1:17:50AND OFF PRETTY MUCH SINCE 1998.

1:17:52UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO OPPOSE

1:17:55THE ALT FIVE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT

1:17:57PROJECT THAT WE DISCUSSED AT

1:17:58THE LAST MEETING.

1:17:59UH, I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR.

1:18:01I DO SUPPORT.

1:18:02UM.

1:18:03>> IMPROVING OUR ROADS.

1:18:04I SUPPORT SAFE ROADS,

1:18:05SIDEWALKS, MULTI-USE PATHS,

1:18:07DRAINAGE, LANDSCAPING ANY

1:18:09IMPROVEMENT THAT CAN MAKE IT A

1:18:10BETTER PLACE FOR US TO LIVE.

1:18:11I'M IN FAVOR OF.

1:18:12BUT MY CONCERN IS HOW THIS

1:18:14PROJECT IS BEING FUNDED AND

1:18:15SPECIFICALLY WHY THE COST IS

1:18:16BEING PLACED ONLY ON THE

1:18:19HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE IN THE

1:18:20BURNT STORE AREA.

1:18:22FLORIDA STATUTE 170 .01 ALLOWS

1:18:25MUNICIPALITIES TO USE SPECIAL

1:18:26ASSESSMENTS FOR CERTAIN

1:18:27IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING STREET

1:18:29SIDEWALKS, LIGHTING,

1:18:30LANDSCAPING ETC. BUT THE STATUE

1:18:32ALSO SAYS THAT THE SPECIAL

1:18:34ASSESSMENTS MUST BE LEVIED ON

1:18:35PROPERTIES THAT RECEIVE A

1:18:36SPECIAL BENEFIT FOR THE

1:18:38IMPROVEMENT.

1:18:39IT ALSO FURTHER REQUIRES IT TO

1:18:41BE APPORTIONED IN PROPORTION TO

1:18:43THE BENEFITS RECEIVED.

1:18:44SO AN IMPORTANT QUESTION COMES

1:18:47UP WHAT MAKES THE PROPERTIES

1:18:48THAT ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR THE

1:18:49WATER AND SEWER PROJECT, WHICH

1:18:51IN ITSELF IS A MASSIVE

1:18:53EXPENDITURE?

1:18:53WHY SHOULD THEY ALSO RECEIVE

1:18:56THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE

1:18:57ALTERNATE FIVE ROADWAY UH

1:19:00REDESIGN?

1:19:00THOSE BENEFITING FROM THAT ARE

1:19:01NOT JUST THE HOMEOWNERS THAT

1:19:03ARE BEING ASSESSED THE ROADWAYS

1:19:04,THE MULTI-USE PATHS,

1:19:06LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENT,

1:19:07TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE ETC. ARE

1:19:10GOING TO BENEFIT RESIDENTS,

1:19:12VISITORS, EMERGENCY SERVICES

1:19:13AND THE BROADER CAPE CORAL

1:19:14COMMUNITY NOT JUST THE

1:19:16HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE BEING

1:19:16CHARGED FOR THIS ASSESSMENT.

1:19:18CAPE CORAL HAS ALREADY RECEIVED

1:19:20OR I'M SORRY ALREADY COMPLETED

1:19:22ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS IN OTHER

1:19:23PARTS OF THE CITY.

1:19:24MOST UH RECENTLY UH EMBERS

1:19:27PARKWAY WEST OF BURNT STORE

1:19:28ROAD RECEIVED A MULTI-MILLION

1:19:30DOLLAR LANDSCAPING, SIDEWALK

1:19:33DRAINAGE LIGHTING IRRIGATION

1:19:35PROJECT.

1:19:36NOT ONE HOMEOWNER IN THAT AREA

1:19:38WHICH IS JUST SOUTH OF US THAT

1:19:40JUST WENT THROUGH UP TO OR

1:19:42NORTH TO I SHOULD SAY RECEIVED

1:19:43ANY SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR THAT

1:19:45PROJECT.

1:19:45SO WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT?

1:19:47WHY SHOULD WE BEAR A $5,765

1:19:50ADDITIONAL BILL OR MULTIPLE OF

1:19:52THOSE IF YOU OWN MORE THAN ONE

1:19:54PROPERTY?

1:19:55UH, WHEN PEOPLE JUST SOUTH OF

1:19:56US LESS THAN A MILE RECEIVE THE

1:19:58SAME BENEFITS OR MORE

1:20:00LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING,

1:20:01SIDEWALKS, DRAINAGE ETC. AND

1:20:03AGAIN THEY RECEIVED ABSOLUTELY

1:20:05ZERO SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.

1:20:06SO I DID LEARN A LITTLE BIT

1:20:08TONIGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT

1:20:09THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A NON

1:20:11ASSESSMENT TYPE OF EXPENDITURE

1:20:12OR COST AND SOMEHOW ALONG THE

1:20:14LINES THAT GOT SWITCHED TO

1:20:15BEING ASSESSED TO US AS

1:20:16HOMEOWNERS.

1:20:17SO I WOULD LIKE SOME ANSWERS IF

1:20:19I COULD I KNOW THIS ISN'T THE

1:20:20FORUM FOR THAT BUT IF I COULD

1:20:21GET SOME ANSWERS MY

1:20:22INFORMATION'S ON THE CARD THAT

1:20:23I SUBMITTED.

1:20:23THANK YOU.

1:20:24THANK YOU SIR.

1:20:26TINA MADAM CITY CLERK BEFORE WE

1:20:28GO FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK

1:20:29WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH

1:20:30CITIZENS INPUT, WE'RE GOING TO

1:20:31BE IN MOTION BECAUSE I BELIEVE

1:20:32WE'VE MET THE 60 MINUTE MARK.

1:20:35SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH,

1:20:37ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS UH, HAVE A

1:20:40DESIRE TO UH, INCREASE UH,

1:20:44CITIZENS INPUT TIME OVER AND

1:20:46ABOVE THE 60 MINUTES.

1:20:47UM, MAKE THAT MOTION.

1:20:48WELL, HOW MANY.

1:20:49>> MORE.

1:20:49CARDS DO.

1:20:50WE HAVE?

1:20:50>> WILL THAT BE ENOUGH?

1:20:5160 MINUTES.

1:20:53WE HAVE ROUGHLY 22.

1:20:57WELL, CAN I MAKE THEM?

1:20:58I WANT I WANT TO HEAR FROM ALL

1:20:59OF THEM.

1:21:00CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO MAYBE DO

1:21:03THE TIME?

1:21:04WHAT TWO MINUTES EACH WOULD

1:21:04THAT.

1:21:06THEY ARE?

1:21:07>> I'M TRYING.

1:21:07>> TO GET HERE.

1:21:09I'M JUST.

1:21:10>> UH, MR. CITY MANAGER.

1:21:11I'M SORRY, MR. CITY ATTORNEY.

1:21:13I SPOKE WITH.

1:21:14>> THE CLERK AND I.

1:21:15>> THINK THERE'S.

1:21:16ABOUT 6.

1:21:17>> OR 8 CARDS THAT PERTAIN.

1:21:18TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

1:21:19AGREEMENT.

1:21:20>> WHICH IS ACTUALLY A PUBLIC

1:21:21HEARING.

1:21:22UM.

1:21:22>> SO THAT.

1:21:24>> WOULD.

1:21:24PROBABLY BE THE.

1:21:25BETTER OPPORTUNITY.

1:21:25AND BETTER TIME FOR THEM.

1:21:26TO SPEAK.

1:21:27ON THAT AND WHEN THAT DOES OPEN

1:21:28UP.

1:21:29SO UM.

1:21:31THAT MAY BE A FACTOR FOR YOU.

1:21:32>> TO.

1:21:33CONSIDER I AND AND THAT WILL BE

1:21:35PROBABLY A BETTER WAY TO KIND

1:21:36OF SEPARATE IT OUT.

1:21:37OKAY.

1:21:38>> SO I WOULD RECOMMEND MAYBE

1:21:39THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT DO WANT

1:21:41TO SPEAK.

1:21:42REGARDING THE.

1:21:42DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

1:21:43THAT THEY WAY FOR THAT AGENDA

1:21:45ITEM TO BE CALLED AND THEN THEY

1:21:46CAN ADDRESS TO COUNCIL AT THAT

1:21:47POINT IN TIME VERSUS.

1:21:48CITIZEN INPUT.

1:21:49OKAY.

1:21:50>> WELL I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO

1:21:51EXTEND IT 60 MINUTES ADDITIONAL

1:21:5460 MINUTES.

1:21:54SECOND.

1:21:57ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

1:21:59MADAM CITY CLERK.

1:22:00PLEASE CALL.

1:22:00>> THE ROLL.

1:22:01>> COULD DUKE, I KILL RAIN?

1:22:05ALL RIGHT.

1:22:06>> LAST STRAW.

1:22:06HI, LEMON.

1:22:08HI, LONG.

1:22:09UH, STINKY.

1:22:11AND NOW, UH, GUNTER.

1:22:12UH.

1:22:13>> YOU GUYS MOTION CARRIED.

1:22:16OKAY, GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE.

1:22:17UH, MADAM CITY CLERK.

1:22:19TINA LAPIN.

1:22:21>> AND DAVE NEWTON.

1:22:30JUST.

1:22:31>> THANK YOU.

1:22:34>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

1:22:35MEMBERS DAVE NEWTON, SOUTHEAST

1:22:37CAPE.

1:22:37I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

1:22:39REGARDING THE, UM, FINANCING.

1:22:41HAS THE CITY EXPLORED.

1:22:43EPA'S WATER.

1:22:44INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCE AND.

1:22:46INNOVATION ACT PROGRAM?

1:22:47UH, MY UNDERSTANDING.

1:22:49IS THAT IT CAN PROVIDE

1:22:50FINANCING FOR UP TO 49% OF THE

1:22:52PROJECT, POTENTIALLY AT A

1:22:54SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

1:22:55INTEREST RATE.

1:22:56IF THIS IS A VIABLE OPTION FOR

1:22:58THE UP, I BELIEVE IT'S WORTH

1:23:01EXPLORING BECAUSE ANY REDUCTION

1:23:02IN FINANCING COSTS COULD RESULT

1:23:03IN MEANINGFUL SAVINGS FOR OUR

1:23:05RESIDENTS.

1:23:06I HAVE ALSO HEARD THAT THE CITY

1:23:08MAY BE ADDING APPROXIMATELY 2%

1:23:10OF THE FINANCING RATE TO COVER

1:23:12LOAN RELATED COST.

1:23:13IF THERE IS AN OPTION TO ROLL

1:23:15THOSE COSTS INTO THE LOAN

1:23:17ITSELF RATHER THAN ADDING THEM

1:23:18TO THE INTEREST RATE.

1:23:19IF SO, THAT COULD ALSO BE A

1:23:22SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS TO THE

1:23:23RESIDENTS.

1:23:24MY GOAL IS SIMPLY TO MAKE SURE

1:23:25WE ARE EXPLORING EVERY

1:23:28FINANCIAL OPTION AND DOING

1:23:29EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE

1:23:31THE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON OUR UAP

1:23:33RESIDENTS.

1:23:35THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

1:23:36CONSIDERATION.

1:23:38TINA LAPIN.

1:23:40SHE WENT TO THE RESTROOM.

1:23:41KYLE MAHAMADOU AND JEREMY GLUCK

1:23:44.

1:23:46OUR.

1:23:46>> HI, I'M JEREMY.

1:24:04GLUCK.

1:24:05>> UH, SIX YEAR RESIDENT

1:24:06DISTRICT TWO.

1:24:07UH, SEVENTH COUNCIL MEETING

1:24:09THIS.

1:24:09HERE SECOND.

1:24:10TIME UP HERE.

1:24:11UH OUTGOING MAYOR COUNCIL.

1:24:14I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU.

1:24:16ALL TO.

1:24:16READ THE ROOM AND UNDERSTAND

1:24:19THE TEMPERATURE OF YOUR

1:24:20CONSTITUENTS.

1:24:21PLEASE LISTEN, CONTEMPLATE AND

1:24:24THEN ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR

1:24:26CONCERNS.

1:24:27REMEMBER THE EAST.

1:24:30PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO PUSH.

1:24:31ANY COMMITMENT THROUGH PRIOR TO

1:24:33THE ELECTION IN 27 DAYS.

1:24:35DOING SO GIVEN THE LACK OF

1:24:37TRANSPARENCY AROUND

1:24:38NEGOTIATIONS AND NEWLY PROPOSED

1:24:40TERMS WOULD BE VERY TELLING.

1:24:43I'M ACTUALLY.

1:24:44FOR THIS PROJECT WITH COMPLETE

1:24:46ASSURANCE AS THE FOUR FREEDOMS

1:24:47REMAINS EXACTLY AS IS, BUT I'M

1:24:49NOT SURE THE.

1:24:49CURRENT DEVELOPER OR PLAN IS

1:24:51THE.

1:24:51ONLY OPTION FOR SUCH AN

1:24:53IMPORTANT PROJECT.

1:24:54I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE

1:24:56TRANSPARENT INFORMATION

1:24:57ILLUSTRATING THAT THE

1:24:58REMAINING.

1:24:59BUYOUTS ARE BEING DONE IN THE

1:25:00BEST FINANCIAL INTEREST OF THE

1:25:01RESIDENT TAXPAYERS.

1:25:03WHY PAY SO MUCH FOR GEORGE'S.

1:25:05GARAGE AND WHO'S ASSUMING THE

1:25:06POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL

1:25:07LIABILITIES THAT GO WITH IT?

1:25:09PERHAPS WE SHOULD SCALE THIS

1:25:11PROJECT IN PHASES AND ENSURE

1:25:13FULL INVOLVEMENT AND

1:25:15TRANSPARENCY WITH ALL

1:25:16CONSTITUENTS IN REGARDS TO

1:25:19SENIOR CITY STAFF REVIEWS AND

1:25:21RAISES.

1:25:21I FEEL LIKE THE COUNCIL CAVED.

1:25:24WE ALL SEE HOW STAFF HAS PUSHED

1:25:26THE COUNCIL AND DRIVEN

1:25:27PRIORITIES IN NEGOTIATIONS

1:25:28VERSUS THE COUNCIL GUIDING

1:25:30STRATEGY AND TIMING.

1:25:31I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WOULD

1:25:33LOVE BIG RACES AND PROB SOME

1:25:34PROBABLY DESERVE THEM, BUT

1:25:36THERE'S ALSO AN ECONOMIC

1:25:37REALITY THAT TIES IN WITH THE

1:25:38NEED TO REDUCE OUR SPENDING AND

1:25:41CORRESPONDING TAXES.

1:25:42SO I'M ALL FOR THE STAFF

1:25:43INCLUDING OUR SENIOR STAFF

1:25:45BEING FINANCIALLY REWARDED FOR

1:25:47EXCEEDING VERY CLEAR METRICS

1:25:49THAT MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD.

1:25:50BUT THIS SHOULD ALL COME.

1:25:52>> FROM.

1:25:52COUNCIL DRIVEN GOALS AND

1:25:54RESULTS NOT THE AVERAGE OF 75%

1:25:55OF SOME RANDOM CITY COMPARISON

1:25:57SAMPLING.

1:26:00LAST MONTH I.

1:26:01ASKED ABOUT CAPE CORAL AMERICA

1:26:02250 BANNERS FOR PURCHASE OR

1:26:04AUCTION.

1:26:06UM I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE

1:26:08WHO'S INTERESTED IN THESE.

1:26:09I HOPE I DON'T HAVE TO ASK A

1:26:10THIRD TIME.

1:26:12I KNOW THERE'S A LOT.

1:26:13MORE WE WILL BE ANALYZING ONCE

1:26:15THE NEW MAYOR AND COUNCIL ARE

1:26:16IN, AND I REMAIN OPTIMISTIC FOR

1:26:18COOPERATION AND ACTION.

1:26:19BUT WE ALL KNOW THERE IS

1:26:21WASTEFUL SPENDING THAT SHOULD

1:26:21BE ADDRESSED IN OUR BUDGET.

1:26:24THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I

1:26:25HOPE THAT ALL THE CANDIDATES

1:26:26CAN FINISH THIS ELECTION CYCLE

1:26:28WITH INTEGRITY AND A HOLISTIC

1:26:30FOCUS ON WE THE PEOPLE.

1:26:32THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

1:26:33THANK YOU.

1:26:40FOR.

1:26:40>> OKAY MR..

1:26:48MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

1:26:49MY NAME IS TINA LAPIN AND I AM

1:26:51HERE REPRESENTING RICK

1:26:53ERICKSON.

1:26:53RICK WANTED ME.

1:26:54RICK WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT

1:26:55BUT UNFORTUNATELY HIS OLDER

1:26:56BROTHER PASSED AWAY SUNDAY

1:26:57NIGHT.

1:26:59WASTE PRO AND COASTAL.

1:27:01WASTE RECYCLING HAVE BOTH FILED

1:27:03A FORMAL PROTEST REGARDING THIS

1:27:05PROCUREMENT UNDER THE CITY'S

1:27:07PROCUREMENT ORDINANCE SECTION

1:27:102-150.

1:27:10THOSE PROTESTS ARE ENTITLED TO

1:27:12A HEARING BEFORE THE DEPARTMENT

1:27:14OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS.

1:27:15I AM.

1:27:16>> ASKING THE COUNCIL TO REFER

1:27:17BOTH PROTEST FOR THE HEARING

1:27:19PROVIDED FOR UNDER FOUR UNDER

1:27:21THE ORDINANCE RATHER THAN DENY

1:27:24THEM WITH THAT PROCESS TAKING

1:27:26PLACE.

1:27:29THE CURRENT WASTE PRO CONTRACT

1:27:31RUNS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 13TH

1:27:342027, SO THERE IS TIME TO

1:27:36RESOLVE THESE PROTESTS PROPERLY

1:27:37AND ALLOW THE PROCUREMENT

1:27:38PROCESS TO FOLLOW FORWARD WITH

1:27:41TRANSPARENCY AND CONFIDENCE.

1:27:42WITH THE NEW COUNCIL UH BEING

1:27:45SEATED IN NOVEMBER, I

1:27:46RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE

1:27:47INCOMING COUNCIL TAKE THIS

1:27:49MATTER UP PROMPTLY AND

1:27:50PROACTIVELY SO THIS PROCESS

1:27:51DOES NOT BECOME COMPRESSED AS

1:27:53THE CURRENT CONTRACT DEADLINE

1:27:55APPROACHES.

1:27:56REFERRING THESE PROTESTS IS NOT

1:27:58CREATING UNNECESSARY DELAYS.

1:28:00IT IS FOLLOWING THE PROCESS

1:28:02THAT THE CITY ORDINANCE ALREADY

1:28:04PROVIDES.

1:28:04IT ALSO GIVES THE CITY AN

1:28:06OPPORTUNITY TO RESOLVE THE

1:28:08PROTEST BEFORE A FINAL

1:28:09PROCUREMENT DECISION IS MADE.

1:28:10PROVIDING GREATER PROTECTION

1:28:13FOR THE CITY, THE TAXPAYERS AND

1:28:15THE INTEGRITY OF THE

1:28:16PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

1:28:21ANOTHER TOPIC THAT HE WOULD

1:28:23LIKE TO DISCUSS IS I'M ASKING

1:28:25THE COUNCIL TO HOLD OFF ON

1:28:26MAJOR DECISIONS REGARDING THIS

1:28:28UNTIL THE NEW THE NEW COUNCIL

1:28:30BEGINNING IS.

1:28:32AND ALSO FOR FREEDOM PARK.

1:28:36THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

1:28:44GOOD EVENING KYLE.

1:28:45DO TAKE.

1:28:46>> OUT THE TRASH.

1:28:54UH.

1:28:55>> WE DETERMINED.

1:28:56THAT THERE WAS.

1:28:56>> A.

1:28:57SECTION IN THE RFP THAT WAS.

1:28:58LEFT OUT AND WE NEEDED TO PUT

1:29:00THAT BACK IN.

1:29:00WHO DETERMINED IT AND WHO

1:29:02DECIDED TO TAKE IT OFF THE

1:29:03STREETS?

1:29:04I'M SORRY.

1:29:04WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?

1:29:06DETERMINED THAT THAT SECTION

1:29:07WAS MISSING.

1:29:08AND WHO TOOK THE RFP OFF?

1:29:10I DID.

1:29:11YOU DETERMINED THAT IT WAS

1:29:13MISSING A SECTION CUT.

1:29:14OKAY.

1:29:16ALL RIGHT.

1:29:17THANK YOU.

1:29:17OKAY.

1:29:18OKAY, SO ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT

1:29:19WAS ABOUT?

1:29:20THAT WAS SOMEBODY ASKED A

1:29:21QUESTION AND THE CITY.

1:29:22MANAGER HAD TO.

1:29:23>> RUN HIS OUT OF THE ROOM

1:29:24BECAUSE HE COULDN'T.

1:29:25HEAR THE RESPONSE.

1:29:26SO GUESS WHAT THE RESPONSE IS

1:29:27ON THE RECORD?

1:29:27I PUT IT BACK ON THE RECORD.

1:29:28SO YOU HEARD IT.

1:29:29ALL RIGHT.

1:29:31GOT THAT ONE DONE.

1:29:33UM, NOW WHEN YOU'RE SITTING

1:29:35HERE IN THE AUDIENCE I WISH YOU

1:29:37GUYS COULD ACTUALLY HEAR WHAT

1:29:38PEOPLE MUMBLE UNDER THEIR

1:29:40BREATHS WHEN SOME OF YOU SPEAK

1:29:42.

1:29:42IT IS NOT PLEASANT.

1:29:45I DID A CODE COMPLAINT THAT HAD

1:29:50TO BE REPORTED.

1:29:52>> THROUGH.

1:29:52THE CLERK'S OFFICE THROUGH THE

1:29:53BTR FOR A CODE COMPLIANCE

1:29:55SPECIALIST.

1:29:55I MADE THAT COMPLAINT ON AUGUST

1:29:5826TH, 2026 AGAINST SOMEBODY

1:30:01WORKING AS EITHER A CAMPAIGN

1:30:02MANAGER OR A POLITICAL

1:30:05CONSULTANT AS SHE CALLS HERSELF

1:30:07.

1:30:07I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY RESPONSE

1:30:09ON THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO

1:30:10KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

1:30:12IF EVERYBODY WANTS THE RULES TO

1:30:13BE FOLLOWED.

1:30:14THOSE RULES APPLY TO EVERYBODY

1:30:15.

1:30:15AM I WRONG OR AM I RIGHT?

1:30:17NOW I KNOW SHE WORKED ON

1:30:18SOMEONE'S CAMPAIGN AND SHE

1:30:20WORKED ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S

1:30:21CAMPAIGN AND SHE'S WORKING ON

1:30:23SOMEBODY ELSE'S CAMPAIGN SO.

1:30:25THAT NEEDS TO BE FOUND OUT WHAT

1:30:26THE IS GOING ON.

1:30:29SO NOW.

1:30:32YOU DON'T HAVE TO HEAR IT.

1:30:34SO NOW I WANT TO TALK ABOUT

1:30:37WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS ROOM.

1:30:38A FEW MONTHS AGO GLORIA TATE

1:30:42TOOK OVER CITIZENS INPUT AND

1:30:44KEPT CITIZENS VOICES FROM BEING

1:30:47HEARD BECAUSE IF YOU WERE HERE

1:30:48IN THAT ROOM YOU KNEW THAT ONLY

1:30:51CERTAIN PEOPLE GOT TO SPEAK

1:30:52THAT NIGHT.

1:30:52AND GLORIA TATE, YOU DESERVE TO

1:30:54.

1:30:55GIVE EVERY.

1:30:55>> ONE.

1:30:55OF THEM A PUBLIC APOLOGY.

1:30:56AND THEN.

1:30:57WHAT DID YOU DO TODAY WHEN

1:30:58THEY.

1:30:59>> ASKED.

1:30:59TO EXTEND.

1:31:00CITIZENS INPUT?

1:31:00YOU SHOOK.

1:31:00YOUR HEAD.

1:31:01>> NO.

1:31:02>> THAT'S.

1:31:04NOW SINCE YOU LET OTHER

1:31:07ORGANIZATIONS PROMOTE THEIR

1:31:08EVENTS, I'M HERE TO PROMOTE

1:31:09ARTS.

1:31:10WE ARE HAVING A DEBATE ON

1:31:13OCTOBER 14TH FOR THE CANDIDATES

1:31:14THAT ALL ARE INVITED TO.

1:31:16THAT'S A.

1:31:17>> POLITICAL ITEM.

1:31:18IT DOESN'T MATTER.

1:31:18TOUGH LUCK.

1:31:19IT'S ALREADY DONE.

1:31:20SO AGAIN THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS

1:31:24WHEN THE PROBLEM IS IN THE ROOM

1:31:27AND GUESS WHAT?

1:31:28YOU ARE.

1:31:28>> THE PROBLEM.

1:31:29THAT'S WHY THE CITIZENS VOTED

1:31:30YOUR OUT.

1:31:31NOW YOU BILL RAN A GREAT

1:31:34SPECIAL MEETING THAT.

1:31:35YOU HAD TO IT.

1:31:36I ALREADY DID.

1:31:37TOUGH LUCK.

1:31:38SO WE HAD A GREAT MEETING.

1:31:40AND TREATED.

1:31:41THE CITIZENS WITH RESPECT.

1:31:43IT IS SOMETHING YOU WILL NEVER

1:31:46UNDERSTAND.

1:31:46THANK YOU.

1:31:49ELIZA KING AND DAVID SEE

1:31:52CLAPPING.

1:31:52>> I'LL ASK YOU TO LEAVE NEXT.

1:31:54OH, GOD.

1:31:56DIDN'T TELL YOU HER?

1:31:57>> WE SAY.

1:32:05WHEN THEY CALL.

1:32:11GOOD.

1:32:11GOOD EVENING.

1:32:12MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

1:32:13MY NAME IS LISA KING.

1:32:15UH THANK YOU MAYOR FOR

1:32:16MENTIONING THAT THE UP WILL BE

1:32:18DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AT THE

1:32:19COUNCIL MEETING.

1:32:20UM, I.

1:32:21>> DO WANT TO TOUCH ON THE FACT

1:32:23THAT I WOULD JUST URGE THAT

1:32:25THESE FIVE.

1:32:25ALTERNATIVE ROADWAY

1:32:27IMPROVEMENTS BE NON ASSESSED.

1:32:29AS PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED.

1:32:31I WANT TO TOUCH ON.

1:32:32>> A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT ARE

1:32:33ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

1:32:35FIRST IS THE STORM WATER

1:32:37SPENDING WITH.

1:32:38APPROXIMATELY 1.79.

1:32:41>> MILLION IN STORMWATER

1:32:42PROJECTS ON THIS AGENDA.

1:32:43I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE AREAS

1:32:46THAT WILL BENEFIT BE IDENTIFIED

1:32:48AND WHAT DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS

1:32:51RESIDENTS SHOULD EXPECT WHEN

1:32:52THEY'RE COMPLETED.

1:32:56I'LL JUMP OVER TO.

1:32:58UH.

1:32:58>> THE FEATHER BANNERS THAT ARE

1:33:00ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.

1:33:01I DO SUPPORT REASONABLE

1:33:03REGULATION REGULATIONS ALLOWING

1:33:06MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES TO

1:33:07ADVERTISE AVAILABILITY.

1:33:08I THOUGH I ALSO FEEL STRONGLY

1:33:11THAT IT SHOULD BE FAIR AND NOT

1:33:13LIMITED AND SHOULD INCLUDE OUR

1:33:15LOCAL BUSINESSES.

1:33:16SMALL BUSINESSES NEED

1:33:18AFFORDABLE WAYS TO PROMOTE

1:33:19GRAND OPENINGS AND SPECIAL

1:33:21EVENTS CLEAR STANDARDS FOR

1:33:24PLACEMENT, MAINTENANCE,

1:33:25APPEARANCE AND TRAFFIC

1:33:27VISIBILITY CAN SUPPORT

1:33:28BUSINESSES WHILE PROTECTING OUR

1:33:30COMMUNITY.

1:33:30AND THEN FINALLY ON BIMINI EAST

1:33:33.

1:33:34I DO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE

1:33:36THE FACT THAT WE WILL ATTRACT

1:33:38INVESTMENT AND EXPAND OUR

1:33:40COMMERCIAL TAX BASE.

1:33:41I JUST ASK THAT BEFORE FINAL

1:33:43APPROVAL THAT ALL OF THE

1:33:45PROVISIONS, ALL OF THE LONG

1:33:46TERM PROVISIONS BE UNDERSTOOD

1:33:49BY THE COMMUNITY.

1:33:50I SUPPORT REASONABLE

1:33:54RESPONSIBLE INVESTMENT AND

1:33:55RESIDENTS DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT

1:33:56THEY ARE PAYING WHEN, WHAT THEY

1:33:58WILL RECEIVE AND HOW THE

1:34:00INTEREST WILL BE PROTECTED.

1:34:02THANK YOU.

1:34:03.

1:34:04DAVID SCOTT AND STEVEN VICKERS

1:34:07.

1:34:13UH GOOD AFTERNOON.

1:34:14COUNCIL MY NAME IS DAVID SCOTT

1:34:16.

1:34:16I LIVE AT.

1:34:171220 NORTHWEST.

1:34:1843RD AVENUE.

1:34:20I'VE GOT A LANDLINE.

1:34:21THAT MEANS I'M IN THE PHONE

1:34:22BOOK.

1:34:23SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LEAVE ME

1:34:24A VOICEMAIL LATER ON.

1:34:26FEEL FREE TO DO SO.

1:34:29TWO WEEKS AGO LAST MONDAY I

1:34:32WENT TO A MEETING AT THE UH,

1:34:35NORTHWEST NEIGHBORHOOD

1:34:37ASSOCIATION.

1:34:37I WENT WITH THE INTENT TO GET

1:34:39THERE EARLY AND INFORMED THE

1:34:42LEADERSHIP THAT THEY WERE GOING

1:34:42TO BE THE SUBJECT OF A CLASS

1:34:44ACTION SUIT.

1:34:46LO AND BEHOLD, OUR CITY MANAGER

1:34:48WAS THERE AND, UH, I GOT THERE

1:34:51LATE AND I WAS WONDERING REALLY

1:34:52WHAT WAS GOING ON.

1:34:53THERE WAS THE TYPICAL 75 PEOPLE

1:34:56IN THE ROOM AND I GUESS I'LL

1:34:59JUST CALL IT THE LIARS CLUB

1:35:00BECAUSE I HAD TO LISTEN TO THE

1:35:01PRESIDENT TALK ABOUT THE 2400

1:35:04MEMBERS THAT THEY HAVE AND UH,

1:35:07THEY'RE FUNCTIONING OF COURSE

1:35:08AS A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE

1:35:10AND THEY HAVE ENDORSED

1:35:12CANDIDATES AND WE SEE HOW THAT

1:35:15WORK.

1:35:15THAT'S LIKE 14% WHICH MEANS 86%

1:35:18OF THE PEOPLE HERE ARE TOTALLY

1:35:20OPPOSED TO THAT VIEW.

1:35:22I'VE LIVED HERE A LONG TIME.

1:35:23YOU ALL KNOW THAT.

1:35:25UM, WE CAME HERE BECAUSE WE

1:35:26DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE TO MIAMI

1:35:29AND MY NEW NEIGHBORS THAT ARE

1:35:30FROM MIAMI THEY DON'T WANT TO

1:35:32LIVE IN MIAMI ANYMORE.

1:35:34SO PART OF OUR PROBLEM IS NO

1:35:37CONTINUITY ON THE DAIS UP

1:35:38THERE.

1:35:38I'LL TAKE YOU ON A LITTLE

1:35:39HISTORY HERE.

1:35:40THE YEAR 2010 WE WENT THROUGH

1:35:42SOMETHING CALLED THE NORTH

1:35:45SPREADER ECOSYSTEM MANAGEMENT

1:35:47AGREEMENT.

1:35:47I WAS ON THE TECHNICAL

1:35:49COMMITTEE AS A MATTER OF FACT.

1:35:52IT WAS MY DATA THAT GOT THE

1:35:54BARRIER REMOVED AND

1:35:57CONSEQUENTLY THAT WAS SAME

1:35:59DYNAMIC WAS USED TO REMOVE THE

1:36:01UH TRICKY TO LOCK.

1:36:02SO THIS WAS A BIG DEAL TO THE

1:36:04ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY AND

1:36:05THEY WERE PRETTY UPSET ABOUT IT

1:36:06.

1:36:06WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO CERTAIN

1:36:08THINGS IN THAT AGREEMENT AND WE

1:36:10WERE BEING SUED BY THE COUNTY.

1:36:11THAT'S A LONG HISTORY THAT YOU

1:36:13PROBABLY DON'T KNOW.

1:36:14BUT AT THAT TIME WHAT WE'RE

1:36:16CALLING NORTH THREE WAS NORTH

1:36:18ONE.

1:36:19THE COST OF IT WAS $21,000.

1:36:22I'VE BEEN A HUGE PROPONENT OF

1:36:24THIS UTILITY EXPANSION FOR THE

1:36:2732 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED IN

1:36:28THIS CITY ON A TECHNICAL BASIS

1:36:31,YOU DON'T WANT TO BE DRAWING

1:36:31YOUR POTABLE WATER IN YOUR

1:36:33BACKYARD WHILE YOUR EXCREMENT

1:36:35IS GOING INTO YOUR FRONT YARD

1:36:37AND SANDY SOILS WITH THE

1:36:39DENSITY OF THE CITY.

1:36:39SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE

1:36:41TO DO.

1:36:42BUT THIS ALTERNATIVE FIVE THIS

1:36:45.

1:36:45IS RICH.

1:36:46THE NORTHWEST NEIGHBORHOOD

1:36:48ASSOCIATION AS A NEIGHBORHOOD

1:36:50ASSOCIATION DOESN'T EXIST

1:36:50ANYMORE.

1:36:51IT'S A POLITICAL ACTION

1:36:53COMMITTEE.

1:36:53THEY DUPED ALL OF YOU.

1:36:55AS WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE

1:36:56GROWING ISSUE.

1:36:57YOU SAW HOW THAT WORKED OUT AND

1:36:59NOW THIS ALTERNATIVE FIVE THEY

1:37:02THOUGHT THEY PULLED IT OVER ON

1:37:04EVERYBODY, BUT NOW THEY FEEL

1:37:05THAT THE CITY HAS PULLED IT

1:37:06OVER ON THEM.

1:37:07SO THIS IS REALLY RICH.

1:37:09ALL THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR

1:37:11THE SEVEN ISLANDS.

1:37:12IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

1:37:13THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE FUEL

1:37:14DOCKS THERE.

1:37:16AND THANK YOU.

1:37:17UH CORRUPT ENTITY.

1:37:19WE'RE GOING TO INVESTIGATE IT.

1:37:21PUT.

1:37:21>> STEVEN VICKERS.

1:37:29>> HELLO.

1:37:39>> MY NAME.

1:37:40STEPHEN VICKERS.

1:37:41I LIVED IN THE YACHT.

1:37:42CLUB AREA FOR.

1:37:4438.5 YEARS.

1:37:47PREVIOUS TO THAT.

1:37:48MY WIFE GREW UP IN.

1:37:50>> THE AREA.

1:37:51SHE WROTE HER.

1:37:52>> BIKE TO FOR FREE IN THIS

1:37:53PARK.

1:37:54OUR SON.

1:37:55WENT TO FOR.

1:37:56FREE AT THE PARK.

1:37:57MY GRANDDAUGHTER.

1:37:58NOW GOES TO.

1:37:59FOR FREE OF PARK.

1:38:00IF YOU GIVE.

1:38:01FOUR FREEDOMS.

1:38:02PARK TO A DEVELOPER.

1:38:04WHAT'S GOING TO KEEP THEM.

1:38:05FROM SEEING.

1:38:06LATER DOWN THE ROAD?

1:38:10WE OWN THE PROPERTY.

1:38:11>> YOU CAN'T BE HERE ANY LONGER

1:38:12.

1:38:13NOW BIMINI EAST.

1:38:15HAVE YOU DONE.

1:38:17ROAD STUDIES?

1:38:18BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE.

1:38:20>> IN MY AREA.

1:38:21WE DON'T GO.

1:38:22>> TO CAPE CORAL PARKWAY DURING

1:38:23THE DAY AT.

1:38:24CERTAIN TIMES.

1:38:25BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC.

1:38:27WHAT'S ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT

1:38:28GOING TO.

1:38:29DO TO.

1:38:31CORONADO AND CAPE CORAL PARKWAY

1:38:32?

1:38:33WE DON'T NEED A MARINA.

1:38:35WE DON'T.

1:38:36>> NEED.

1:38:36A MUSIC.

1:38:37VENUE FILTERING DOWN THE CANALS

1:38:39.

1:38:40IF YOU WANT A MARINA.

1:38:41PUT IT AT THE YACHT CLUB.

1:38:43WE'VE ALREADY LOST THAT.

1:38:45WHAT ELSE ARE WE GOING TO LOSE

1:38:46?

1:38:46WE NEED TO LEAVE FOUR.

1:38:49FREEDOMS PARK ALONE.

1:38:51THAT'S OUR.

1:38:52ONLY GOOD GREEN.

1:38:53SPACE WITH MATURE TREES.

1:38:56THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.

1:39:00THANK YOU.

1:39:01>> REGINA MARIE JOHNSON AND

1:39:03REGINA RISKY.

1:39:10COULD YOU REPEAT THOSE NAMES

1:39:11AGAIN, PLEASE?

1:39:12REGINA MARIE JOHNSON AND REGINA

1:39:17DE RISKY.

1:39:34GOOD EVENING.

1:39:36UM.

1:39:37>> REGINA SKI PERMANENT

1:39:39RESIDENT.

1:39:41MY HUSBAND AND I ARE LIFELONG

1:39:43FLORIDA RESIDENTS AND HAVE

1:39:44LIVED IN LEE COUNTY FOR ALMOST

1:39:4620 YEARS.

1:39:47WE HAVE HEARD IT SAID THAT CAPE

1:39:49CORAL IS THE BIGGEST SMALL.

1:39:50TOWN THAT CAN BE SEEN WHEN MY

1:39:53LITTLE CAPE CORAL BABIES CAN'T

1:39:55GO ANYWHERE IN THIS TOWN

1:39:56WITHOUT SEEING SOMEONE.

1:39:57>> THEY KNOW.

1:39:57AND GOING.

1:39:59WHEN ATTENDING SUMMER CAMP OR

1:40:01PARENTS NIGHT OUT AT FOUR

1:40:03FREEDOMS PARK THEY ALWAYS SEE

1:40:04FRIENDS FROM DIFFERENT

1:40:05ACTIVITIES SOCCER, MUSIC,

1:40:07BASEBALL OR JUST SOMEONE.

1:40:08THEY MET.

1:40:09>> AT A RANDOM CAPE CORAL

1:40:11PLAYGROUND.

1:40:12I SAY THIS TO SAY THAT THIS

1:40:14SCHOOL FOUGHT THE PRESCHOOL AT

1:40:16FOR FREEDOMS PARK.

1:40:19AND COMMUNITY CENTER ARE ONE OF

1:40:21THE FEW THINGS LEFT THAT MAKE

1:40:23THIS BIG TOWN A SMALL TOWN AND.

1:40:25>> A COMMUNITY.

1:40:27THERE IS NOTHING IN THE PLANS

1:40:30FOR THE BIMINI EAST PROJECT

1:40:32THAT PROTECT THE SCHOOL AND THE

1:40:34PROGRAMS FOR THE CHILDREN OR

1:40:36THE STAFF POSITIONS.

1:40:38THE LEASE LETS THE DEVELOPER

1:40:40TEAR DOWN WHAT'S THERE AND DOES

1:40:41NOTHING TO PROTECT THIS

1:40:43COMMUNITY TREASURE AND FOR

1:40:44WHAT?

1:40:45TO BUILD MORE, DEVELOP MORE

1:40:49WHEN CAPE CORAL IS ALREADY

1:40:51JAMPACKED AND LACKS VITAL

1:40:53INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSIT.

1:40:54AS A SIDE NOTE AS WE LIVE IN A

1:40:58TIME AND REGION THAT IS

1:41:00BECOMING INCREASINGLY

1:41:01UNAFFORDABLE FOR FREEDOMS

1:41:03PROVIDED TWO YEARS OF EARLY

1:41:04CHILDHOOD EDUCATION TO MY

1:41:06DAUGHTER AT A TIME WHEN WE

1:41:07COULD NOT HAVE AFFORDED MUCH

1:41:09ELSE, THEY TAUGHT HER TO READ,

1:41:11DO MATH, WRITE LETTERS BUT MORE

1:41:14IMPORTANTLY TO CARE.

1:41:15>> ABOUT OTHERS.

1:41:16SO THAT SHE CAN BE AN

1:41:17UPSTANDING MEMBER OF THIS

1:41:18COMMUNITY.

1:41:19IT DOES TAKE A VILLAGE.

1:41:20SO THANK YOU.

1:41:22THANK YOU.

1:41:23>> OH KEEP GOING.

1:41:25>> I WAS THINKING ONE OF HER

1:41:26TEACHERS WHO'S SITTING HERE SHE

1:41:28IS IN THE 99TH PERCENTILE OF

1:41:30HER GRADE AND STILL CONSIDERS

1:41:32HER FOUR FREEDOMS, FOUR

1:41:35FREEDOMS, A SECOND HOME AND A

1:41:36SECOND FAMILY AND AS DOES MY

1:41:39ENTIRE HOUSEHOLD.

1:41:40THEY ARE TRUE PROFESSIONALS.

1:41:42.

1:41:42FAILING TO PROTECT THE SCHOOL

1:41:43AND THE STAFF IN THESE PLANS

1:41:45TAKES AWAY EDUCATIONAL AND

1:41:47SOCIAL OPPORTUNITIES FROM

1:41:48WORKING CLASS FAMILIES AND CAPE

1:41:49CORAL.

1:41:50MY QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL

1:41:52WILL COUNCIL WRITE IN

1:41:54PROTECTIONS FOR THE PROGRAMS IN

1:41:55THE COMMUNITY CENTER

1:41:57SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PRESCHOOL

1:41:58AND STAFF?

1:41:58THANK YOU.

1:41:59>> THANK YOU.

1:42:00>> COULD YOU.

1:42:02>> CALL THE OTHER NAME AGAIN

1:42:03PLEASE?

1:42:03CERTAINLY.

1:42:04>> REGINA MARIE JOHNSON.

1:42:08JAY HIGGINS AND JENNIFER

1:42:11ALVAREZ WADA.

1:42:27YOU GO.

1:42:27>> I'M JAY HIGGINS.

1:42:31NORTHWEST CAPE CORAL.

1:42:33AND I WAS SORT OF PIGGYBACK A.

1:42:35LITTLE BIT.

1:42:35>> ON WHAT.

1:42:36>> KYLE BROUGHT UP.

1:42:37ABOUT THIS.

1:42:38>> THIS.

1:42:41>> UH, AGREEMENT IN THE CITY

1:42:44MANAGER LEAVING.

1:42:45YOU KNOW, I WAS PERPLEXED.

1:42:48WHY WOULD A CITY MANAGER'S IN.

1:42:50CHARGE OF OUR GOVERNMENT

1:42:51RUNNING OUR GOVERNMENT.

1:42:52LEAVE A MEETING.

1:42:54SO HIGH AS PAY PERSON.

1:42:56THAT WE PAY?

1:42:58HE'S SUPPOSED.

1:42:59>> TO.

1:42:59BE.

1:42:59THE LEADER.

1:43:01SO WHAT I DO.

1:43:04I CALLED HIM.

1:43:06AND I ASKED HIM.

1:43:08HE TOLD ME.

1:43:12AND ONE OF YOU UP.

1:43:14THERE ACCUSING HIM OF BID

1:43:16RIGGING.

1:43:18AND WHEN YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT

1:43:20THAT A LITTLE BIT.

1:43:22SO TONIGHT I'M ADDRESSING YOU

1:43:25TO EXPRESS SERIOUS CONCERNS

1:43:27REGARDING THE LEADERSHIP AND

1:43:29OVERSIGHT OF OUR CURRENT CITY

1:43:30MANAGER AND TO URGE THE

1:43:33INCOMING COUNCIL OR THIS

1:43:35COUNCIL TO SELECT A MANAGER OF

1:43:36THEIR OWN CHOOSING WHEN HIS

1:43:37TERM EXPIRES.

1:43:39MY CONCERNS STEMMED FROM BOTH

1:43:41PAST ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES

1:43:43WHICH WE KNOW AND RECENT

1:43:45EXECUTIVE DECISIONS.

1:43:47PRIOR TO HIS APPOINTMENT, THE

1:43:49CITY MANAGER RECEIVED.

1:43:50A LAST CHANCE AGREEMENT

1:43:51FOLLOWING MULTIPLE WORKPLACE

1:43:53INFRACTIONS INCLUDING TIME

1:43:54SHEET NONCOMPLIANCE AND POLICY

1:43:57VIOLATIONS INCLUDING.

1:43:58EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIRS IN

1:44:01STANDARD ORGANIZED SETTINGS

1:44:02SUCH AS BEHAVIOR.

1:44:03SUCH BEHAVIOR.

1:44:04>> AS THIS RESULTS IN

1:44:05TERMINATION RATHER THAN

1:44:08ADVANCEMENT.

1:44:09I'M ANGRY.

1:44:12THE GEO BOND.

1:44:15OVER BY 30 MILLION HE WAS IN

1:44:16CHARGE OF THAT JC PARK.

1:44:18SOLVER RUNS.

1:44:19>> A 6 MILLION AND STILL NO

1:44:22CONCESSIONAIRE AND RECENT

1:44:23PROPOSAL SUCH AS THE BIMINI

1:44:25DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT.

1:44:27A LONG TERM LEASE.

1:44:29WATERFRONT LEASE.

1:44:30A DOLLAR.

1:44:31A YEAR.

1:44:32I'M GOING.

1:44:33>> TO.

1:44:33OFFER $5.

1:44:34>> A YEAR RIGHT NOW.

1:44:37THAT'S A OF A SAVINGS, ISN'T

1:44:39IT?

1:44:40IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT.

1:44:41OUT FOR.

1:44:42LEASE, PUT.

1:44:43>> IT OUT.

1:44:44FOR LEASE.

1:44:47GIVEN THE CITY MANOR'S FOUR

1:44:49YEAR CONTRACT CONTRACT TERM

1:44:51EXPIRES NEXT SEPTEMBER AND CAN

1:44:53BE EITHER CONCLUDED BY MAJORITY

1:44:54.

1:44:54VOTE FOR.

1:44:55>> CLAUSE OR VIA 120 DAYS

1:44:57NOTICE.

1:44:57PERIOD IS ESSENTIAL THE NEW

1:44:59COUNCIL TAKE ON OWNERSHIP OF

1:45:00THIS KEY APPOINTMENT AND

1:45:02BECAUSE THE SOLID WASTE

1:45:04DISPOSAL IMPACTS EVERY RESIDENT

1:45:06OF OUR COMMUNITY, I

1:45:06RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL

1:45:08MOVE THE SOLID WASTE AGENDA

1:45:10ITEM IN FRONT OF TONIGHT'S

1:45:11AGENDA IN FRONT OF TONIGHT'S

1:45:14AGENDA SO WE CAN ALL.

1:45:14TALK ABOUT IT.

1:45:15I'M THE ONE THAT ASKED FOR THE

1:45:17ADA.

1:45:18MY SON OVER HERE CANNOT STAY

1:45:20HERE THAT LONG.

1:45:21THIS IS THE LAST THING ON THE

1:45:22LIST AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE

1:45:24ABLE TO COMPETE.

1:45:24I KNOW I CAN WRITE A LETTER,

1:45:26RIGHT?

1:45:26I'M ANGRY.

1:45:30THANK YOU.

1:45:30>> THANK YOU.

1:45:31>> SHOULD BE.

1:45:38ALL RIGHT.

1:45:40I GET IT GO IS.

1:45:44JENNIFER ALVAREZ WATER

1:45:46NORTHWEST CAPE I'M HERE TO TALK

1:45:47ABOUT THE MEETING.

1:45:48LESS MONEY FOR THE UP.

1:45:50UH, SINCE WE ONLY HAD THREE

1:45:52MINUTES TO DISCUSS IT, I DID

1:45:53NOT, UM, COMPLETE MY, UM,

1:45:55INITIAL COMMUNICATION ABOUT

1:45:58THIS PROJECT AS I WAS LISTENING

1:46:00TO, UH, THE DEMONSTRATION OR,

1:46:02UH, ON THE SCREEN ABOUT HOW

1:46:04MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST US AND

1:46:06HOW YOU GUYS ARE MAKING, UH,

1:46:09WEST OF BYRNE STORE ROAD PAY AN

1:46:11EXTRA FIVE $6,000 BECAUSE YOU

1:46:15DON'T KNOW HOW TO LIVE WITHIN

1:46:16YOUR MEANS.

1:46:17THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON,

1:46:18PEOPLE.

1:46:18I MEAN, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF

1:46:20ANYTHING ELSE RIDICULOUS.

1:46:22DISGRACEFUL THAT OUR CITIZENS

1:46:24HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR.

1:46:25OWN ROADS.

1:46:26IT'S BAD.

1:46:27>> ENOUGH YOU'RE PUTTING A

1:46:28BURDEN ON US FOR WELL AND

1:46:29SEPTIC.

1:46:30OKAY.

1:46:30I LIVE IN THE NEXT SECTION OF

1:46:33NORTH AND I AM DEATHLY AFRAID.

1:46:35OF WHAT.

1:46:36>> THESE.

1:46:37PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO TO ME.

1:46:39OKAY, I BY THE TIME THEY GET UP

1:46:41THERE GOD KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE

1:46:43CAPABLE OF.

1:46:43HOW MUCH MORE IT'S GOING TO BE

1:46:46EXPENSIVE AND THERE'S STILL

1:46:47MORE SECTIONS ABOVE ME.

1:46:49I MEAN.

1:46:49>> THIS IS DISGRACEFUL.

1:46:50THEY THEY VOTED NOT TO SPEND

1:46:53ANY MONEY ON POLICE AND FIREMEN

1:46:54THIS YEAR ALTHOUGH SNEAKY

1:46:57MIKEY.

1:46:57SNUCK IN.

1:46:5817% INCREASE FOR THEM AND I'M

1:47:01NOT SAYING IT'S NOT IMPORTANT

1:47:02BUT AT THIS POINT WE ARE A SAFE

1:47:04CITY.

1:47:04UNION SHOULD NOT HAVE THEIR WAY

1:47:06FIRE AND POLICE SHOULD NOT BE

1:47:08NUMBER ONE.

1:47:09INFRASTRUCTURE SHOULD BE NUMBER

1:47:11ONE.

1:47:11OKAY AND LET ME TELL YOU

1:47:13SOMETHING SIR.

1:47:14IF YOU.

1:47:15>> WERE TO LISTEN TO TAKE OUT

1:47:16THE TRASH KYLE AND SAY TO PROVE

1:47:19THAT YOU PAID YOUR TAXES ON

1:47:20YOUR BOAT I BET YOU WOULD HAVE

1:47:22WON AND I BET YOU REGRET IT BIG

1:47:25TIME.

1:47:25THAT'S ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS

1:47:26PROVE THAT YOU PAY TAXES ON

1:47:27YOUR BOAT.

1:47:28BUT NO, YOU STILL CAN'T DO

1:47:29THAT.

1:47:29ONCE AGAIN PEOPLE NO

1:47:31TRANSPARENCY IN THIS GOVERNMENT

1:47:33OKAY?

1:47:33AND LIKE I SAID THEY CAN SPEND

1:47:36$1 MILLION IN SAFETY BUT THEY

1:47:37CAN'T FIND A COUPLE MILLION

1:47:38DOLLARS TO HELP US CITIZENS.

1:47:40IN NORTHWEST.

1:47:42MEANWHILE THEY'RE GIVING THESE

1:47:43CONTRACTORS MULTIMILLION DOLLAR

1:47:46UM CONTRACT ON THESE BIDS

1:47:49ESPECIALLY KYLE CONSTRUCTION

1:47:51CONSTRUCTION COMPANY THAT UH

1:47:53GAVE $75,000 TO THE FLAG IS

1:47:56GETTING A $41 MILLION CONTRACT

1:47:58.

1:47:58FOR ONE SECTION.

1:47:59OKAY.

1:48:00>> THESE CONTRACTS NEED TO BE,

1:48:02UH, ON THE WEBSITE SO THE

1:48:04CITIZENS CAN SEE THESE

1:48:06CONTRACTS AND SEE HOW MUCH

1:48:07THEY'RE PAYING THESE

1:48:08CONTRACTORS TO DO IT.

1:48:09SO YOU.

1:48:10SCRATCH MY BACK, I SCRATCH

1:48:11SHIRTS.

1:48:12WELL GUESS WHAT?

1:48:12IT'S OVER WITH AND COME NEXT

1:48:14YEAR THIS LITTLE GUY OVER HERE

1:48:16NEEDS TO GO.

1:48:17AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR LORI AND

1:48:19JOE WILL GO AND REMEMBER THIS.

1:48:21THERE'S ONE MORE.

1:48:22UM.

1:48:22>> ONE MORE PERSON LEFT ON

1:48:24THIS, UH, COUNCIL THAT HAS BEEN

1:48:26THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

1:48:27SHE NEEDS TO GO VOTE FOR JAMES

1:48:29VARGAS.

1:48:30THANK YOU.

1:48:31>> MARIE KAVANAGH AND DAVID

1:48:35KALISH.

1:48:40I HAVE SOME HANDOUT TO UM.

1:48:49OKAY.

1:48:50>> MARIE KAVANAGH, TAKE OUT THE

1:48:51TRASH.

1:48:52VICE CHAIR.

1:48:53AND HAPPY TO DO IT.

1:48:55OKAY.

1:48:56>> FIRST THING.

1:48:57>> I WANT TO TALK.

1:48:57ABOUT IS UM.

1:49:01THE LAST TIME I.

1:49:04WASN'T HERE I WAS OUT OF.

1:49:05TOWN TAKING A.

1:49:06VACATION FROM.

1:49:07>> YOU GUYS.

1:49:07WELL NEEDED.

1:49:08VACATION.

1:49:09>> ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES.

1:49:12HERE.

1:49:13>> UH, YOU WERE.

1:49:14DISCUSSING THE.

1:49:15VIDEO CAMERA.

1:49:18LOCATION AND.

1:49:19SHE CAME OUT HERE AND SHE SAID

1:49:21.

1:49:21OH NO, THAT'S JUST GOING TO PUT

1:49:23TOO.

1:49:24>> MUCH OF A BURDEN.

1:49:25>> ON STAFF.

1:49:25WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.

1:49:27I MEAN.

1:49:28CITIZENS INPUT.

1:49:29IS FOR.

1:49:30FOR AN HOUR.

1:49:30THEY TAKE.

1:49:31CARE HE TAKES.

1:49:32CAMERA.

1:49:32>> HE PUTS.

1:49:33>> IT UP.

1:49:33HE DOESN'T HAVE TO TOUCH IT

1:49:35AGAIN BUT YET.

1:49:35>> THEY'RE.

1:49:36PERFECTLY CAPABLE.

1:49:37OF WHEN.

1:49:37YOU'RE TALKING ZERO IN ON.

1:49:39YOU AND.

1:49:40HE'S TALKING.

1:49:41ZERO IN ON.

1:49:42THEM IF.

1:49:42>> THEIR STAFF.

1:49:43ZERO IN ON THEM BUT CITIZENS.

1:49:45OH NO CAN'T HAVE THAT.

1:49:47BUT THE REALITY IS IT'S NOT A

1:49:51STAFF.

1:49:52IT'S ONE PRO MEDIA.

1:49:54A CONTRACTOR.

1:49:55THAT'S DOING THIS.

1:49:56SO I DON'T APPRECIATE BEING

1:49:58LIED TO.

1:50:00ALL RIGHT.

1:50:00AND NOW WE'RE ON TO BIMINI EAST

1:50:02I AM ASKING THAT YOU PULLED OUT

1:50:04FROM.

1:50:05THE AGENDA FROM THE.

1:50:07AGENDA THE.

1:50:08ORDINANCE UH.

1:50:10WHATEVER THE HECK IT IS.

1:50:11>> 5526 BECAUSE.

1:50:15THERE ARE.

1:50:16THINGS IN THERE.

1:50:18I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN EVEN

1:50:19BRING IT UP BECAUSE THE

1:50:21PACKAGES.

1:50:21PRESENTED IS NOT EVEN COMPLETE.

1:50:23AND HERE'S A COUPLE OF

1:50:25INSTANCES UH, IN UH EXHIBIT.

1:50:30E TO.

1:50:32BE ATTACHED EXHIBIT Q TWO BE

1:50:36ATTACHED EXHIBIT O MARKED TO BE

1:50:39PROVIDED AT A LATER DATE.

1:50:42EXHIBIT T.

1:50:43>> AND EXHIBIT X AGAIN TO BE.

1:50:48OR IS IT HERE?

1:50:52TO BE ATTACHED?

1:50:53SO THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF

1:50:55THINGS WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT

1:50:56THEY ARE AND YOU ALL ARE GOING

1:50:58TO VOTE ON IT AND YOU ARE

1:51:00BECAUSE I WANT SOMEONE TO

1:51:03EXPLAIN THIS AND AND I WANT

1:51:06ANSWERS ON JASON PARK TO I'VE

1:51:09BEEN ASKING HIM FOR.

1:51:11MONTHS ON AN UPDATE ON.

1:51:13JC PARK YOU CAN'T USE THE

1:51:15BANDSHELL.

1:51:15WE'RE NOT GETTING OUR $500,000

1:51:17.

1:51:17WE'RE NOT TO ANYTHING BUT.

1:51:18EXPLAIN THIS EXHIBIT J.

1:51:20IS THE LEASE AGREEMENT AND THE

1:51:23SECOND PARAGRAPH WHEREAS MAYOR

1:51:25AND CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED

1:51:27ORDINANCE 5526 ON OCTOBER 21ST

1:51:30,2026 WHICH APPROVED A

1:51:33DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN

1:51:34THE LESSER AND LESSEE FOR A

1:51:36MIXED USE PROJECT KNOWN AS

1:51:38BIMINI EAST.

1:51:39NOW HE'S GOING TO REACH IN HIS

1:51:42BUCKET OF EXCUSES AND PULL

1:51:43SOMETHING OUT.

1:51:44WHO KNOWS?

1:51:45BUT WHOEVER WROTE THAT CONTRACT

1:51:48THE DEVELOPER MUST HAVE HELD A

1:51:50GUN TO THEIR HEAD BECAUSE

1:51:51THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE FOR

1:51:53THE CITY.

1:52:03OH, HERE.

1:52:04>> OKAY UM.

1:52:09DAVE KALISH I.

1:52:10KNOW YOU ALL KNOW ME.

1:52:10I'VE BEEN HERE.

1:52:11I DON'T EVEN.

1:52:12KNOW HOW MANY.

1:52:13TIMES FOR SIX AND A HALF.

1:52:15YEARS FIGHTING WITH YOU GUYS.

1:52:18UM.

1:52:18>> ONE THING I DO, I HAVE TO

1:52:19ADMIT.

1:52:20AS A COUNCIL.

1:52:21OH, LET.

1:52:21ME BEFORE I GET STARTED.

1:52:23SOMEONE ACTUALLY.

1:52:24SAID THAT.

1:52:25WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE.

1:52:26>> YOU.

1:52:26HERE.

1:52:27>> MR. MAYOR.

1:52:28AND GOD.

1:52:29KNOWS I'M.

1:52:30>> NOT.

1:52:30.

1:52:31>> I'M SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU

1:52:33.

1:52:33YOU DID.

1:52:34YOU KNOW.

1:52:35YOU REALLY.

1:52:35DID BECAUSE.

1:52:36>> YOU GET.

1:52:37>> ME SICK.

1:52:37>> TO.

1:52:38MY STOMACH.

1:52:38SO PICK UP.

1:52:39YOU GUYS CAN HEAR ME.

1:52:41REALLY?

1:52:41>> OKAY, SO I HAVE A BEEN

1:52:46AVAILABLE FOR A BID, SO I'VE

1:52:48BEEN KIND OF NOT REALLY

1:52:49PREPARED FOR THIS TONIGHT SO

1:52:50I'M GOING TO SHOOT FROM THE HIP

1:52:51BUT I DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION

1:52:53I WANTED TO SHARE.

1:52:54OKAY.

1:52:55>> LAST YEAR UH THE CITY

1:52:57MANAGER GOT AN INCREASE OF

1:53:017.25%.

1:53:01UM, THIS YEAR HE GOT AN

1:53:05INCREASE OF 3.25 RAISE WILL YOU

1:53:08CALL IT A RAISE?

1:53:09BUT IT REALLY WAS A BONUS

1:53:11BECAUSE YOU GOT A LUMP SUM.

1:53:13I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT.

1:53:14HOW DO YOU GET A RAISE AND GET

1:53:16.

1:53:17>> IT.

1:53:17IN A LUMP SUM?

1:53:18I WISH I HAD A JOB LIKE THAT.

1:53:21IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING

1:53:23ILLEGAL WITH THAT BUT I DON'T

1:53:24KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

1:53:26OVERRIDE.

1:53:28UM, OKAY.

1:53:30OVERRIDING HIS CONTRACT BY

1:53:31GETTING A LUMP SUM.

1:53:33THEY'RE NOT BONUSES.

1:53:34THE CITY ATTORNEY DID THE SAME

1:53:36THING UNLESS THEY FEEL LIKE

1:53:38THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOSING

1:53:39THEIR JOB.

1:53:40>> ONE CAN ONLY HOPE.

1:53:41TABLE EVERYTHING FOR THE NEW

1:53:44COUNCIL.

1:53:45I KNOW YOU WON'T DO IT BECAUSE

1:53:46THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE AND I

1:53:47WOULD ACTUALLY BE DOING

1:53:48SOMETHING.

1:53:49POSITIVE FOR THE.

1:53:50PEOPLE SO.

1:53:51THAT WON'T HAPPEN OKAY.

1:53:53VERY COMFORTABLE THAT.

1:53:55>> WON'T HAPPEN.

1:53:55BECAUSE YOU WON'T DO THAT

1:53:56BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T CARE.

1:53:57THE NOTICE PEOPLE FOR THE LAST

1:54:00SIX AND A HALF YEARS UM

1:54:03EVERYBODY THAT'S COME UP.

1:54:05>> HERE.

1:54:05PEOPLE THAT.

1:54:06>> HAVE.

1:54:06TAKEN THEIR TIME FROM THEIR

1:54:07LIFE AT HOME WITH.

1:54:08>> THEIR.

1:54:09FAMILIES BECAUSE.

1:54:10YOU GUYS THINK PEOPLE HAVE

1:54:11NOTHING BETTER TO DO BUT COME

1:54:12HERE AND COMPLAIN.

1:54:13TO EVERYBODY SEEMS TO.

1:54:15HAVE LEGITIMATE BEEFS, OKAY?

1:54:17AND IT JUST GOES ROUND AND.

1:54:19ROUND AND ROUND AND.

1:54:20ROUND FOR.

1:54:20SIX AND A HALF YEARS.

1:54:22IT'S PATHETIC.

1:54:23IT'S NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF.

1:54:24I WOULDN'T BE PROUD OF IT IF.

1:54:27>> I.

1:54:27WELL IF I WAS.

1:54:28INVOLVED IT WOULDN'T BE THIS

1:54:29BAD.

1:54:30BUT ANYWAY.

1:54:31UM JUSTIFIABLE.

1:54:33CONCERNS AND NOTICE.

1:54:35THE COUNCIL.

1:54:36IS GOOD.

1:54:37FOR PRETENDING TO PAY.

1:54:38ATTENTION AND THEN DOING.

1:54:40>> THEIR OWN AGENDAS.

1:54:41ANYWAY THE.

1:54:42FEELINGS BY THE PEOPLE IN THE

1:54:44CITY THE COUNCIL TOTALLY

1:54:46DISRESPECTS THE CITIZENS.

1:54:47AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.

1:54:50AND IT'S A SHAME.

1:54:51FOR SIX AND A HALF YEARS I'VE

1:54:53HAD TO COME.

1:54:54HERE AND.

1:54:55SAY THAT YOU ALL.

1:54:55DON'T DESERVE TO BE.

1:54:59AND BIRCH TOLD AND JULIA ATARI

1:55:02.

1:55:10TONY ADENA AND JOHN BASHA.

1:55:16ALL.

1:55:16>> OKAY.

1:55:18YEAH OKAY.

1:55:26AND SO TAKE OUT THE TRASH.

1:55:29YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN.

1:55:30DRIVING AROUND CAPE.

1:55:31CORAL JUST.

1:55:32>> GOING FOR A DRIVE.

1:55:33AND I'VE.

1:55:34SEEN SO.

1:55:34MANY MEDIANS UNDERTAKING

1:55:37BEAUTIFICATION.

1:55:37FOR THE MOST PART.

1:55:39PRIOR TO THAT THE MEDIANS WERE

1:55:41REALLY WELL CARED FOR NICE AND

1:55:43GRASSY, THE.

1:55:43EDGES TRIMMED.

1:55:45.

1:55:45>> COUNTRY CLUB BOULEVARD HAS

1:55:47BEEN THE SUBJECT OF A MASSIVE

1:55:50MASSIVE BEAUTIFICATION PRETTY.

1:55:52PRETTY LITTLE.

1:55:53>> SHRUBS AND OH BY THE WAY

1:55:54THEY RIPPED OUT ALL.

1:55:55>> THE TREES.

1:55:56I'LL COME BACK TO THAT.

1:55:57SO THEY'VE GOT THESE BEAUTIFUL.

1:55:59PLANTS AND.

1:56:01TO COMPLETE THE.

1:56:02WHOLE PICTURE IRRIGATION WHAT

1:56:04DOES THAT COST?

1:56:05I MEAN SERIOUSLY.

1:56:06WHAT DOES THAT COST.

1:56:08SO I GOING TO RIP UP EVERYTHING

1:56:09.

1:56:10AND THEN.

1:56:10PUT IN ANOTHER.

1:56:11ANOTHER BEAUTIFICATION.

1:56:13OH RESIDENTS ALONG SHELBY

1:56:16PARKWAY HAVE COMPLAINED.

1:56:17ABOUT THE.

1:56:18>> SAME THING.

1:56:18SO YESTERDAY.

1:56:19I WENT FOR.

1:56:20>> A LITTLE DRIVE.

1:56:21IT LOOKS LIKE JAYCEE PARK.

1:56:23DID A.

1:56:23>> COUPLE OF YEARS.

1:56:24AGO.

1:56:24>> ALL THE BIG BEAUTIFUL TREES

1:56:27HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN TO ABOUT TWO

1:56:29FEET.

1:56:29WHAT ARE THEY DOING?

1:56:30I TALKED TO A COUPLE OF THE

1:56:32CONSTRUCTION GUYS.

1:56:33OH, THEY'RE RIPPING EVERYTHING

1:56:34UP.

1:56:35YOU CAN GO AND SEE THE TREE

1:56:36ROOTS ALONG, UH, SHELBY

1:56:38PARKWAY.

1:56:39SAME THING.

1:56:40>> IT'S GOING TO BE ALL PRETTY

1:56:41PLANTS WHICH WON'T SURVIVE SIX

1:56:42MONTHS, WHICH WILL TAKE

1:56:45INTENSIVE INTENSIVE CARE.

1:56:47OH, AND BY THE WAY, IRRIGATION

1:56:49THERE TOO AND ALSO THE

1:56:53METHODIST CHURCH ON CORONADO.

1:56:55THIS IS REALLY BIZARRE BUT.

1:56:57THEIR CAR PARK NOW IS BEING DUG

1:57:00UP IN MIDDLE.

1:57:01WHY ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE

1:57:03BEAUTIFICATION BEAUTIFICATION

1:57:05IN A CHURCH CAR PARK?

1:57:06SERIOUSLY.

1:57:07SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT

1:57:09CAPE CORAL IS REALLY A

1:57:12DANGEROUS PLACE FOR TREES.

1:57:13IT REALLY IS.

1:57:14IT'S DANGEROUS EVERYWHERE.

1:57:16SERIOUSLY EVERYWHERE.

1:57:18LARGE LUXURIOUS TREES ARE BEING

1:57:21CUT DOWN TO TWO FEET.

1:57:23AND THAT REMINDS ME A COUPLE OF

1:57:25WEEKS AGO A JOE.

1:57:26KEEL RIGHT UP I SAID HE'S MY

1:57:27GAVEL TO GAVEL ME.

1:57:30A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I SAID TO

1:57:33COUNCILMAN IN DISTRICT FIVE AT

1:57:35A TOWN.

1:57:35HALL I ASKED.

1:57:37>> HIM ABOUT THE.

1:57:38BEAUTIFICATION AND QUOTE.

1:57:39>> HE.

1:57:39SAID OH I'D PUT A STOP TO THAT

1:57:43I DON'T KNOW.

1:57:43I WENT DOWN SHELBY PARKWAY

1:57:45YESTERDAY AND IT'S NOT A STOP.

1:57:47AND THEN HE SAID TO ME BUT I

1:57:48HAD TO LET THE THE CONTRACT RUN

1:57:52SO I THE CONTRACT I MEAN

1:57:55SERIOUSLY COME ON YOU AND I

1:57:57KNOW MR. DISTRICT PRIDE PERSON

1:58:00WE AIN'T BEEN AROUND LONG

1:58:01ENOUGH YOU.

1:58:02CAN CAP CONTRACTS THEY FIRED

1:58:05SUPERINTENDENT IN THE SCHOOL

1:58:06DISTRICT MR. DAY RIGHT.

1:58:08BECAUSE THINGS WEREN'T GOING

1:58:10THE WAY THEY SHOULD.

1:58:12SO WE ALL KNOW THAT CONTRACTS

1:58:15CAN BE DISMEMBERED KIND OF LIKE

1:58:18THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN WITH

1:58:19JAYCEE PARK.

1:58:20RIGHT.

1:58:20WHILE WE'RE ON THAT SUBJECT,

1:58:22WHY DID WE EVER LET THAT GO?

1:58:24WE LET IT GO BECAUSE SOMEBODY

1:58:26SAID THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE

1:58:29CONTRACT.

1:58:29THANK YOU.

1:58:33WHEN YOU.

1:58:34>> I'LL TRY TO MOVE.

1:58:37THIS ALONG.

1:58:38MY NAME IS.

1:58:39TONY HAD AN OFFICE I LIVE.

1:58:41>> IN.

1:58:42DISTRICT ONE.

1:58:42I'VE BEEN ABOUT 20 YEAR

1:58:44RESIDENT FULL TIME.

1:58:45COULD YOU.

1:58:45>> GET A LITTLE CLOSER?

1:58:46YEAH.

1:58:47>> MY NAME IS TONY HANAFI.

1:58:48>> I LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE.

1:58:49IN ABOUT 20 YEAR RESIDENT.

1:58:51TAXPAYER FULL TIME.

1:58:52I LIVE OFF THE BIMINI AND YACHT

1:58:54CLUB AREA.

1:58:55I WAS HERE LAST.

1:58:57MEETING YOU.

1:58:58WEREN'T HERE.

1:58:58>> I'M GLAD YOU HELP ME.

1:59:00UM.

1:59:00>> I TRY TO MAKE THE POINT.

1:59:02THAT WE.

1:59:03>> HAD A.

1:59:03>> CONSEQUENTIAL PRIMARY

1:59:05ELECTION THAT I THINK THIS

1:59:07BOARD IS IGNORING AND SO IS THE

1:59:09LEADERSHIP IN THE MANAGEMENT.

1:59:11WE TOLD YOU WE DID NOT.

1:59:13WANT THE LEADERSHIP WE.

1:59:14HAD WAS.

1:59:15VERY CLEAR.

1:59:16YOU DIDN'T.

1:59:18>> NOT EVEN.

1:59:18COME CLOSE.

1:59:19WE SAID STOP.

1:59:21THIS TOO MUCH TOO FAST.

1:59:23TOO BIG.

1:59:24IT WAS OVERWHELMING REJECTION.

1:59:26YET YOU'RE MOVING.

1:59:27SO FAST TO MOVE THESE THINGS

1:59:29THROUGH IT'S.

1:59:29ALMOST LIKE IT'S INTENTIONAL.

1:59:31YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT.

1:59:33DONE BEFORE YOU LEAVE.

1:59:34BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR VISION.

1:59:36AND I'VE MET WITH YOU BEFORE.

1:59:38IT'S BEEN A COUPLE.

1:59:39>> OF YEARS.

1:59:39>> BUT I MET WITH YOU WITH A

1:59:40VISION FOR THE FUTURE 100 YEARS

1:59:41I'M NOT BUILDING FOR NOW.

1:59:42I'M BUILDING FOR 100 YEARS OR

1:59:44FOR 100 YEARS.

1:59:44THEY WANT A HOTEL AT THE AT THE

1:59:46YACHT CLUB.

1:59:46LET THEM BUILD IT.

1:59:47WE DON'T WANT IT NOW.

1:59:48RIGHT.

1:59:49>> SO.

1:59:50>> AND YOU.

1:59:53>> SEE THE FRUSTRATION THEY'VE

1:59:54.

1:59:54ASKED YOU JUST DON'T MAKE THESE

1:59:56DECISIONS.

1:59:57UNTIL AFTER THE NEW BOARD IS

1:59:58DONE.

1:59:59WHY CAN'T YOU.

2:00:00LISTEN AND.

2:00:00>> DO THAT?

2:00:01THERE'S NO WAY.

2:00:01I'VE RUN.

2:00:02>> BIG.

2:00:02PROJECTS BEFORE BEGINNING

2:00:03ANYTHING YOU'RE RUNNING HERE IN

2:00:06THE CITY OF NEW.

2:00:07YORK BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A

2:00:09YEAR.

2:00:09THERE'S NO REASON TO PUSH THESE

2:00:10THINGS THROUGH WHEN YOU'RE

2:00:11BEING RUN OVER BY THESE

2:00:13CONTRACTORS.

2:00:16WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR YEARS SO

2:00:20MUCH CONSTRUCTION IN DISTRICT

2:00:21ONE NOT ONE TOWN HALL BECAUSE

2:00:24THAT MAN'S AFRAID TO STAND IN

2:00:26FRONT OF US.

2:00:26THANK GOD HE'S LEAVING.

2:00:28HE GOT.

2:00:29>> HIS PROJECT REALLY.

2:00:29QUICK SLIP AWAY IS THERE BOOM!

2:00:31WONDER HOW THAT WORKED.

2:00:33NO RESIDENTS ACROSS THE WAY

2:00:35REALLY HAPPY RIGHT?

2:00:37AND YOU WANT TO THROW A

2:00:39BANDSHELL IN OUR.

2:00:40BACKYARD ON BIMINI?

2:00:41THAT SOUNDS NICE ON A PIECE OF

2:00:43PAPER.

2:00:43THAT'S INSANE.

2:00:44WE LIVE THERE.

2:00:47DO NOT TIE THE HANDS OF THE NEW

2:00:50COUNCIL.

2:00:51THAT IS WRONG.

2:00:52IT'S NOT DEMOCRATIC.

2:00:53IT'S NOT RIGHT.

2:00:54WE TOLD YOU STOP!

2:00:56YOU'RE NOT LISTENING.

2:00:59NO ONE.

2:00:59>> WANTS TO STAND IN A WAY A.

2:01:00PROJECT IN PROGRESS.

2:01:02>> BUT YOU.

2:01:02>> HAVE.

2:01:03TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC.

2:01:03EVERYBODY IS FRUSTRATED.

2:01:05YOU HEAR THE FRUSTRATION THAT

2:01:06YOU THE MOST.

2:01:07I CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT YOUR

2:01:08ACTION.

2:01:09HAVE TO SUSPEND THE MEETING.

2:01:10THAT'S ABSURD.

2:01:11THAT'S NOT LEADERSHIP.

2:01:13YOU HAVE.

2:01:14>> TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC.

2:01:15THAT'S WHO YOU WORK FOR.

2:01:20YACHT CLUB.

2:01:21>> I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH

2:01:22A SIMPLE SOLUTION.

2:01:23YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE MONEY.

2:01:24WE TOLD YOU DAY ONE THE PROJECT

2:01:26WAS TOO BIG YEARS AGO WHEN YOU

2:01:28SHOWED THAT WE SAID FINISH THE

2:01:30WATERFRONT, BUILD THE PIER,

2:01:32REPLACE THE POLES YOU SHOULDN'T

2:01:33HAVE REMOVED BECAUSE YOU NEED

2:01:35BIGGER BOATS.

2:01:37AND NO.

2:01:37ONE NEEDS 700 CAR PARKING

2:01:39GARAGE IF YOU DON'T PUT IF YOU

2:01:40.

2:01:41PUT THE POLES.

2:01:41>> AT THE AT THE AT THE UH.

2:01:43THANK YOU.

2:01:46>> YEAH.

2:01:46THANK YOU.

2:01:56OH GOODNESS.

2:01:57JULIA.

2:01:58>> TERRY.

2:01:59UM THANK YOU ALL.

2:02:00I'VE BEEN COMING HERE FOR FIVE

2:02:02YEARS AS A LONE WOLF AND I

2:02:04REALLY APPRECIATE THE HOMEWORK

2:02:06AND WHAT'S GOING ON.

2:02:07AND THE CITIZENS ARE NOW

2:02:09INFORMED AND HAVE A VOICE

2:02:12SOMETHING ALL OF YOU PROMISED

2:02:13ON YOUR PALM CARDS BUT NEVER

2:02:15OBTAINED FOR THE CITIZENS.

2:02:16SO I THINK IT'S GREAT.

2:02:18THAT PEOPLE ARE HERE.

2:02:19UM, MY MAIN CONCERN TONIGHT WAS

2:02:21BOOMING EAST, BUT I UNDERSTAND

2:02:23I'M GOING TO GET A CHANCE TO

2:02:24TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.

2:02:25OKAY, SO, UM.

2:02:28I WAS CURIOUS.

2:02:29ABOUT DAVE'S SITUATION WHEN HE

2:02:32GOT UP HERE AND HE LET'S BE

2:02:33CLEAR THE CITY MANAGER GOT 7.25

2:02:37LAST YEAR AND 3.25 THIS YEAR.

2:02:39HE DIDN'T GET A RAISE.

2:02:40HE GOT A ONE SUM LUMP BONUS

2:02:43WHICH HAD TO BE OVERRIDDEN IN

2:02:45HIS CONTRACT AND APPROVED BY

2:02:47YOU.

2:02:48IT WAS NOT IN HIS CONTRACT THAT

2:02:50HE CAN HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO

2:02:51TAKE THAT MONEY IN ONE LUMP

2:02:53SUM.

2:02:53SO IF THE NEW COUNCIL COMES IN

2:02:55AND SAYS HIT THE ROAD JACK,

2:02:57WE'RE NEVER GOING TO SEE THAT

2:02:58MONEY AGAIN.

2:02:59AND YOU DID THE SAME THING WITH

2:03:00THE CITY ATTORNEY.

2:03:01WHY?

2:03:02>> BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM HAVE

2:03:04BEEN NEGLECT IN THEIR DUTIES TO

2:03:06THIS CITY.

2:03:07AND WHEN THE NEW COUNCIL COMES

2:03:09DOWN AND PUTS THEIR NEW IN

2:03:12THOSE SEATS, WE'RE GOING TO SEE

2:03:14A BIGGER CHANGE.

2:03:15SO THAT WAS TOTALLY UNCALLED

2:03:18FOR BECAUSE.

2:03:19EVERYBODY GETS.

2:03:20>> A RAISE.

2:03:20IN THE CITY ISN'T GOING TO GET

2:03:21A ONE LUMP SUM CHECK.

2:03:23I KNOW MY HUSBAND DOESN'T AND

2:03:25I'M SURE EVERYBODY SITTING IN

2:03:27THIS ROOM DOESN'T WHEN IT'S A

2:03:28RAISE IT'S A RAISE IF IT'S A

2:03:30BONUS DIFFERENT BALLGAME.

2:03:32SO I'M GLAD WE HAD A MINUTE TO

2:03:37CLARIFY THAT.

2:03:37THE OTHER THING IS THE UM CITY

2:03:40MANAGER'S AUTHORITY.

2:03:40IT'S CLEARLY OVER.

2:03:43YOU'RE OVERSTEPPING THE AMOUNT

2:03:45OF MONEY THAT HE'S AUTHORIZED

2:03:47TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE CITY

2:03:49IS FAR BEYOND THE LIMITS THAT

2:03:52SHOULD BE SET FOR ONE MAN.

2:03:54IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OVER

2:03:55LIMITS ON ANY PROJECT, IT

2:03:57SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK HERE TO

2:03:59THE COUNCIL INTO THE PEOPLE.

2:04:01NO MAN SHOULD HAVE THE

2:04:02AUTHORITY TO DO A $32 MILLION

2:04:05CONTRACT.

2:04:06THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

2:04:07YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LITTLE

2:04:08MONEY.

2:04:08YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT I WENT

2:04:10OVER BY A THOUSAND BUCKS.

2:04:11YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAJOR

2:04:14PROJECTS.

2:04:15SO I I KNOW IT'S A MOOT POINT.

2:04:18YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO BE HERE

2:04:19ONE MORE MEETING, THANK GOD AND

2:04:21WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BIG

2:04:23CHANGE.

2:04:23BUT AFTER STANDING HERE FOR

2:04:24FIVE YEARS AND GETTING NO

2:04:26RESULTS ACTUALLY THIS IS THE

2:04:28RESULT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE

2:04:29LISTENING AND PEOPLE ARE COMING

2:04:31AND I THANK THEM FOR THAT.

2:04:33OTHER THAN THAT WE'LL BE MORE

2:04:36DILIGENT WHEN WE SUPPORT PEOPLE

2:04:37IN OUR NEXT ELECTIONS.

2:04:39MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE

2:04:41SUPPORTING.

2:04:41LOOK AT THEIR BACKGROUND.

2:04:42DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE I DID

2:04:44BECAUSE I PUT IN MORE LEHMAN.

2:04:46THAT WAS A MISTAKE.

2:04:49THANK YOU.

2:04:53YES.

2:04:54>> YEAH.

2:04:56THERE WERE DAYS I WAS WAITING

2:04:59FOR.

2:05:00YOU KNOW.

2:05:01YEAH.

2:05:02GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND

2:05:03COUNCIL JOHN BASH ON NORTHWEST

2:05:04CAPE.

2:05:05UM, THANK YOU FOR THE.

2:05:06OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU

2:05:07TODAY.

2:05:08I'M HERE TO.

2:05:09SPEAK ON THE.

2:05:10INCREMENTAL NORTH THREE

2:05:11ASSESSMENT.

2:05:12UM, I DO SUPPORT.

2:05:15THE THE.

2:05:15UH, EXTENSION OF UP.

2:05:17IN THE CITY.

2:05:18I THINK YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF

2:05:20THAT TONIGHT.

2:05:21BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE EXTRA

2:05:24ASSESSMENT FOR THE OLD FIVE

2:05:25ROAD DESIGN.

2:05:26I'M NOT GOING.

2:05:27>> TO GO INTO.

2:05:28>> ALL THE DETAILS.

2:05:28YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN, UH, SPOKEN

2:05:30VERY.

2:05:31CLEARLY BY.

2:05:31>> A LOT.

2:05:32OF THE RESIDENTS TONIGHT.

2:05:33BUT THE.

2:05:33SIMPLE QUESTION THAT I.

2:05:34HAVE IS.

2:05:36BECAUSE WE ALWAYS SEEM TO.

2:05:37BE GETTING.

2:05:38>> OURSELVES INTO SITUATIONS.

2:05:40SO IN THE CASE OF NORTH STREET.

2:05:43,WHO DIRECTED.

2:05:44STAFF TO CHANGE THE.

2:05:45ASSESSMENT FOR THE OLD FIVE

2:05:48ROADWAY DESIGN.

2:05:49FROM NON ASSESSED TO ASSESSED.

2:05:53AT SOME.

2:05:54>> POINT.

2:05:54IN TIME BETWEEN.

2:05:56I THINK IT WAS MARCH OF.

2:05:582025 AND SEPTEMBER OF 2026.

2:06:02THAT CHANGED.

2:06:04FROM NOT.

2:06:04ASSESSED TO.

2:06:05ASSESSED.

2:06:06>> UH PERHAPS YOU DIRECTED

2:06:10STAFF TO DO THAT OR PERHAPS IT

2:06:12HAPPENED AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW

2:06:14ABOUT IT BUT I THINK IT'S A

2:06:16FAIR QUESTION AND I THINK THE

2:06:18ANSWER SHOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC

2:06:20FORUM WHERE WE ALL HERE WHO

2:06:23DIRECTED STAFF TO MAKE THE

2:06:25CHANGE.

2:06:26SO IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION.

2:06:27I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT

2:06:29AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU

2:06:33ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

2:06:33THANK YOU.

2:06:36MARCUS DAVIS AND CHARLES

2:06:39MERKLEY.

2:07:02GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR COUNCIL.

2:07:04MY NAME IS MARCUS DAVIS.

2:07:05I WORK WITH BLUE SKY

2:07:06COMMUNITIES.

2:07:06WE'RE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING

2:07:07DEVELOPER BASED IN SAINT

2:07:08PETERSBURG, FLORIDA.

2:07:09UM, I'M ACTUALLY HERE TODAY

2:07:11WITH SOME EXCITING NEWS.

2:07:12UH, ONE OF OUR COMMUNITIES HERE

2:07:14JUST REACHED COMPLETION.

2:07:15BLUE CORAL.

2:07:16UH, BLUE CORAL IS A JOINT

2:07:17VENTURE BETWEEN BLUE SKY

2:07:19COMMUNITIES IN CASTLE.

2:07:20UH, OUR NONPROFIT PARTNER IS

2:07:22LOCATED AT 3550 DE NAVARRO

2:07:24PARKWAY.

2:07:25UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT

2:07:27ENCOMPASSES 72 UNITS OF ONE AND

2:07:29TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS.

2:07:30UH, 50% OF ALL OF THESE UNITS

2:07:32WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR FAMILIES

2:07:35ESCAPING OR AT RISK OF

2:07:37HOMELESSNESS.

2:07:37AN ADDITIONAL 20% OF THE UNITS

2:07:39WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR PERSONS

2:07:41WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.

2:07:42UM, DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS

2:07:44DON'T JUST HAPPEN.

2:07:45THEY COME WITH, UH, INTENTION.

2:07:46UM, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE

2:07:49DEVELOPER AND NONPROFIT PARTNER

2:07:50LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

2:07:51UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE

2:07:53CITY OF CAPE CORAL.

2:07:53UM, FOR DONATING OR

2:07:56CONTRIBUTING $222,500 UH, TO

2:07:59ENSURING THAT THESE UNITS ARE

2:08:01AFFORDABLE OVER A LONG PERIOD

2:08:02OF TIME.

2:08:03UM, AND WE'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK

2:08:04CITY STAFF THAT HELPED US GET

2:08:05ALONG TO THIS PROCESS.

2:08:07UH, WHILE WE HAVE NOT BEGIN

2:08:08WHILE WE WHILE WE HAVE BEGAN

2:08:10LISA WE HAVE NOT YET BEEN ABLE

2:08:12TO SCHEDULE A RIBBON CUTTING.

2:08:13UM, HOWEVER, IF ANY CITY UH

2:08:16COUNCIL OR UM STAFF WOULD LIKE

2:08:18ANY UM ANY TOURS WE'LL BE HAPPY

2:08:21TO ACCOMMODATE.

2:08:22UH, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO

2:08:23BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS AND

2:08:24CONTINUE TO WORK WITH CITY

2:08:25WHILE WE ALSO CONTINUE TO

2:08:27BRIDGE THE GAP FOR AFFORDABLE

2:08:29HOUSING.

2:08:29THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

2:08:37GOOD EVENING HONORABLE MAYOR

2:08:41COUNCIL MEMBERS MY NAME IS

2:08:42CHARLES MARKLEY, VICE PRESIDENT

2:08:44OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FOR SDC

2:08:47ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND ALSO

2:08:49WITH ME TONIGHT AS MANY OF OUR

2:08:51SENIOR LEADERSHIP TEAM AND WE

2:08:54WANT TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES TO

2:08:55ALL OF YOU.

2:08:56UH WE'RE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE

2:08:58STAFF AND THE RECOMMENDATION TO

2:09:00DENY ALL THE PROTEST AND MOVE

2:09:02FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS.

2:09:04AS YOU SURELY HAVE RECOGNIZED

2:09:06IN YOUR PACKET.

2:09:09THAT FCC WAS A TOP RANKED FIRM

2:09:13CLEAR AND FAR AWAY ON ALL

2:09:16CATEGORIES WHICH INCLUDED THE

2:09:19PRICING, TECHNICAL DOCUMENTS

2:09:22AND QUALIFICATIONS BY A LARGE

2:09:24MARGIN.

2:09:25WE PRIDE OURSELF AS WE HAVE

2:09:27DRIVEN NEARLY EVERY STREET IN

2:09:28YOUR CITY SO WE CAN OFFER THE

2:09:31BEST SERVICES FOR THE BEST

2:09:32PRICE.

2:09:33AS TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, I

2:09:36WOULD ALSO GIVE YOU SOME

2:09:37INFORMATION AND BACKGROUND

2:09:39ABOUT FCC.

2:09:41FCC BEEN AROUND OVER 100 YEARS

2:09:44WORKING IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL

2:09:46SERVICE BUSINESS.

2:09:48WITH THAT AS IT RELATES TO

2:09:51RANKINGS.

2:09:52AS A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE

2:09:55RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION SERVICE

2:09:56FCC RANKED SEVENTH GLOBALLY IN

2:09:59THE IN THE WORLD AND 11TH IN

2:10:01THE UNITED STATES FOR

2:10:03RESIDENTIAL COLLECTIONS.

2:10:06TODAY, FCC SERVICES OVER 14

2:10:09MILLION AMERICANS AND SEVEN

2:10:12DIFFERENT STATES.

2:10:13WE HAVE A FLEET OF OVER 1100

2:10:16VEHICLES AND 2000 PLUS

2:10:18EMPLOYEES.

2:10:20AS WE PROPOSED AND REQUESTED AS

2:10:24A PREFERRED FUEL TYPE, WE WILL

2:10:26BUILD AND OPERATE CNG VEHICLES,

2:10:30BUILD OUR OWN STATION ON OUR

2:10:32OWN PROPERTY.

2:10:33SO THERE NO GAS RELATED ISSUES.

2:10:37THIS IS OUR REINFORCEMENT OF

2:10:39COMMITTING THE SUSTAINABLE

2:10:43OPERATIONS AND WHAT THE CITY'S

2:10:44FUEL TYPE DESIRE WAS BRINGING

2:10:47IT CLOSER TO HOME IN FLORIDA.

2:10:49WE SERVICE MANY LARGE

2:10:52MUNICIPALITIES STARTING FROM

2:10:53NORTH FLORIDA, CENTRAL FLORIDA

2:10:56AND SOUTH FLORIDA AND ALSO

2:10:59SERVICE YOUR NEIGHBORS SARASOTA

2:11:02COUNTY AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

2:11:04WITH THAT WE ARE HERE AVAILABLE

2:11:07FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS THAT

2:11:08YOU MAY NEED OF FCC.

2:11:10WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP ITEM 14.

2:11:13THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

2:11:15.

2:11:15MALLORY NEWMAN AND WAYNE ZAHN.

2:11:26HELLO.

2:11:26>> MY NAME IS MALLORY NEWMAN

2:11:27AND I REPRESENT COASTAL WASTE

2:11:29AND RECYCLING INC..

2:11:30I ALSO HAVE WITH ME TODAY UM, A

2:11:33REPRESENTATIVE FROM COASTAL

2:11:34MISTER WAYNE'S ON OUR PROTEST

2:11:36TO THE SOLID WASTE RFP IS PART

2:11:38OF AGENDA ITEM 14.

2:11:39THERE'S TOO MUCH TO COVER TODAY

2:11:41IN THE THREE MINUTES, SO I

2:11:42REQUEST TO PRESENT OR ANSWER

2:11:44QUESTIONS WHEN THE AGENDA

2:11:45AGENDA ITEM ARISES.

2:11:47UM BUT CITY STAFF TODAY IS

2:11:50PRESENTING YOU WITH TWO

2:11:51RECOMMENDATIONS.

2:11:52REFER THE PROTEST TO DOA OR

2:11:54DENY THE PROTEST AND AS ONE OF

2:11:56THE SPEAKERS HAD ALREADY NOTED

2:11:57TO YOU ALL YOU CAN'T DENY THE

2:11:59PROTEST TODAY BECAUSE IT WOULD

2:12:00BE AGAINST THE CITY CODE.

2:12:02THE CITY CODE REQUIRES THAT A

2:12:04PROTEST HAVE A HEARING ON THE

2:12:06MERITS AND WHILE THE CITY

2:12:07COUNCIL HAS THE DISCRETION TO

2:12:09DECIDE WHO HOLDS THAT HEARING

2:12:12WHETHER IT'S AN ALJ AT DOA OR

2:12:14YOU ALL AS THE CITY COUNCIL

2:12:15UNDER A QUASI JUDICIAL

2:12:17PROCEEDING UNDER SECTION W OF

2:12:19THE PROCEDURES A HEARING HAS TO

2:12:22HAPPEN BEFORE THE PROTEST IS

2:12:24DENIED.

2:12:24SO IF THE COUNCIL PROCEEDS WITH

2:12:27DENYING THE PROTEST, IT'S

2:12:28OPENING ITSELF UP TO A LAWSUIT

2:12:29FOR VIOLATING PROCEDURES

2:12:31BECAUSE IT WOULD VIOLATE THE

2:12:32CODE THE CITY'S OWN RULES OF

2:12:34PROCEDURE AND THE PARTY'S BASIC

2:12:36DUE PROCESS RIGHTS.

2:12:38THE ONLY APPROPRIATE PATHS

2:12:40FORWARD TODAY ARE PROCEEDING

2:12:41WITH SETTING A HEARING WHETHER

2:12:43THAT'S VIA DOA OR THE OTHER

2:12:45APPROPRIATE MECHANISM OR

2:12:47CANCELING THE RFP AND STARTING

2:12:49THE PROCESS AT NOON, WHICH

2:12:50WOULD ACTUALLY RESOLVE THE

2:12:52PROTEST AS MOOT.

2:12:53AS YOU KNOW FROM THE PROTEST,

2:12:55THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS

2:12:57WITH THE WAY THAT THIS

2:12:58PROCUREMENT WAS HANDLED.

2:12:59THERE WERE MULTIPLE DEVIATIONS

2:13:01IN THE PROCESS THAT WERE

2:13:02CONTRARY TO THE PUBLISHED RFP

2:13:04AND TO THE CITY CODE.

2:13:05ONE OF THOSE DEVIATIONS IS

2:13:07PARTICULARLY RELEVANT TO THE

2:13:09COUNCIL AND ONE OF THAT ONE OF

2:13:11THOSE DEVIATIONS WAS THAT THE

2:13:12CITY STAFF WAS TO WAS SUPPOSED

2:13:13TO PRESENT TO YOU THE FINAL

2:13:15RANKING FOR APPROVAL AND YOU

2:13:17ALL WOULD HAVE HAD THE

2:13:18AUTHORITY TO EITHER ACCEPT THAT

2:13:19FINAL RANKING OR COME UP WITH A

2:13:22DIFFERENT RANKING WHICH YOU

2:13:23BELIEVED WOULD BE IN THE BEST

2:13:24INTEREST OF THE CITY AND STAFF

2:13:27ACTUALLY BY NOT FOLLOWING THAT

2:13:29PROCESS USURPED YOUR AUTHORITY

2:13:30WITH REGARD TO THAT FINAL

2:13:32RANKING AND COMPROMISED THE

2:13:33INTEGRITY OF THE PROCUREMENT.

2:13:35THERE'S ALSO SERIOUS CONCERNS

2:13:37THAT THE CITY HAS OPENED ITSELF

2:13:38UP TO A PUBLIC MEETINGS LAWSUIT

2:13:40BY COMMITTING SUNSHINE

2:13:42VIOLATIONS.

2:13:43THERE WAS THERE WERE SEVERAL

2:13:44STEPS AND DECISIONS ALONG THE

2:13:46WAY THAT REQUIRED PUBLIC

2:13:48MEETINGS TO BE HELD.

2:13:49THOSE MEETINGS WERE NOT HELD

2:13:50AND WE KNOW FROM LONG STANDING

2:13:52CASE LAW THAT THESE ARE BLACK

2:13:53AND WHITE ISSUES.

2:13:54IF THE CITY DECIDES TO PROCEED

2:13:56WITH THE FCC CONTRACT TODAY,

2:13:58THEN THE CASE LAW SAYS THAT

2:14:00CONTRACT IS VOID REGARDLESS.

2:14:02THERE ARE ALSO SERIOUS

2:14:03QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRANSFER

2:14:05STATION DPO SERVICES AND

2:14:07WHETHER THOSE COULD BE PROCURED

2:14:08AS PART OF THIS RFP BUT IF THEY

2:14:10COULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED

2:14:11PROCURED AS PART OF THIS RFP,

2:14:13THERE'S A QUESTION WHETHER IT

2:14:14WAS DONE PROPERLY.

2:14:15WE KNOW FROM THE BAFFOE

2:14:17DOCUMENT THAT WE SAW FOR THE

2:14:18FIRST TIME WHEN THIS WAS POSTED

2:14:20IN THE AGENDA THAT COASTAL WITH

2:14:23THOSE PRICING INCLUDED WAS

2:14:24ACTUALLY THE MOST COST

2:14:26EFFECTIVE AND BEST VALUE OPTION

2:14:28FOR THE CITY.

2:14:29AGAIN, I'M AVAILABLE WHEN THE

2:14:31AGENDA ITEM COMES UP.

2:14:32>> THANK YOU.

2:14:35NO CLAPPING.

2:14:35>> EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY.

2:14:40COUNCIL.

2:14:40>> WAYNE'S ON UH MARKET AREA

2:14:42VICE PRESIDENT OF BUSINESS

2:14:43DEVELOPMENT FOR COASTAL WASTE

2:14:44AND RECYCLING.

2:14:45WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY

2:14:46TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND SPEAK.

2:14:48UM.

2:14:49>> OUR PURPOSE HERE TONIGHT IS

2:14:51NOT TO WASTE TIME.

2:14:52WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE SOLID

2:14:53WASTE COLLECTION CONTRACT IS A

2:14:55VERY LARGE CONTRACT AS WELL AS

2:14:57A VERY IMPORTANT CONTRACT.

2:14:58AND OUR PURPOSE IS TO GET THE

2:15:00BEST AND FAIREST RESULT FROM

2:15:01THIS PROCUREMENT.

2:15:02AND IT'S NOT ABOUT DELAYING THE

2:15:04DECISION OF THE CITY.

2:15:06UM.

2:15:06>> CANCELING THE CURRENT RFP

2:15:09DOES.

2:15:09>> NOT.

2:15:10MEAN CAPE CORAL WILL BE WITHOUT

2:15:11SOLID WASTE SERVICES OR THAT

2:15:12THE CITY MUST RUSH INTO A

2:15:14CONTRACT THERE SUFFICIENT TIME

2:15:16TO CANCEL THE CURRENT

2:15:18SOLICITATION ADDRESS AND

2:15:19CORRECT THE IDENTIFIED

2:15:21PROCUREMENT ISSUES, ISSUE A

2:15:24REVISED RFP OR EVEN AN ITB.

2:15:27UM VENDORS WON'T NEED A LOT OF

2:15:29TIME TO PREPARE PROPOSALS AND

2:15:31THE NEW COUNCIL POTENTIALLY

2:15:32WOULD BE ABLE TO EVALUATE AND

2:15:34SELECT THE THE BEST PROPOSER

2:15:37UH, NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE QUEUE

2:15:39TO CONTRACT AND PROVIDE AN

2:15:41ORDERLY TRANSITION PERIOD.

2:15:42JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE

2:15:43THAT YOU DO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME

2:15:45UH, THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY

2:15:46IN PALM BEACH COUNTY RECENTLY

2:15:48ISSUED A ITB FOR APPROXIMATELY

2:15:52200,000 SINGLE FAMILY

2:15:53RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

2:15:53IN PALM BEACH.

2:15:54COUNTY RATHER LARGE AREA.

2:15:55THEY ISSUED THEIR ITB ON

2:15:58OCTOBER 17TH OF 2025.

2:16:00BIDS WERE REQUIRED BACK

2:16:03DECEMBER 19TH OF.

2:16:042025 UH RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD

2:16:07WAS ISSUED ON FEBRUARY 11TH OF

2:16:092026 AND ON THIS ON OCTOBER 1ST

2:16:134 OR 5 DAYS AGO SIX DAYS AGO UH

2:16:15WAS THE SUCCESSFUL TRANSITION

2:16:17OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

2:16:19UM THAT TIMELINE IS PRETTY

2:16:20SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE

2:16:21LOOKING FORWARD TO.

2:16:22IT IS ACCOMPLISHABLE UM SO THE

2:16:25FEAR OF A OF AN IMPOSSIBLE

2:16:27TRANSITION OR NOT HAVING ENOUGH

2:16:28TIME IS JUST SIMPLY INVALID.

2:16:30UM, A CLEAN REBID WILL LEVEL

2:16:34THE PLAYING FIELD AND POSSIBLY

2:16:36ENCOURAGE MORE RESPONDENTS FOR

2:16:37THE CITY.

2:16:37IT GIVES THE CITY AN

2:16:38OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY

2:16:40SPECIFICATIONS AND EVALUATION

2:16:41CRITERIA.

2:16:42IT GIVES A COUNCIL GREATER

2:16:44CONFIDENCE THAT THE EVENTUAL

2:16:45AWARD IS TRANSPARENT AND IN THE

2:16:47CITY'S BEST INTEREST.

2:16:48BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY THE CITY

2:16:50IS WILL BE COMING INTO A LONG

2:16:52TERM SOLID WASTE CONTRACT.

2:16:53SO GETTING THE PROCUREMENT

2:16:55RIGHT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN

2:16:56SIMPLY GETTING IT DONE AND

2:17:00CLOSING COASTAL WASTE AND

2:17:02RECYCLING RESPECTFULLY ASKS

2:17:03CITY COUNCIL TO CANCEL THE

2:17:04CURRENT RFP OUT RFP CORRECT

2:17:07DIFFERENCE DIFFERENCE THE

2:17:08DEFICIENCIES IN THE PROCUREMENT

2:17:10AND REISSUE OF SOLICITATION.

2:17:12I ALSO ASKED COUNCIL TO DIRECT

2:17:15STAFF TO DEVELOP A FIRM

2:17:15SCHEDULE DEMONSTRATING THAT THE

2:17:18REBID SELECTION, CONTRACTING

2:17:20AND TRANSITION CAN ALL BE

2:17:22COMPLETED BEFORE THE CITY'S

2:17:23CURRENT SERVICE AGREEMENTS

2:17:25REQUIRE A NEW PROVIDER TO BE

2:17:27FULLY OPERATIONAL.

2:17:28CAPE CORAL DOESN'T NEED TO

2:17:29CHOOSE BETWEEN PROTECTING THE

2:17:31FLAWED PROCUREMENT AND

2:17:33MAINTAINING THE CONTINUITY OF

2:17:34SERVICE.

2:17:34WITH PROPER PLANNING.

2:17:35BOTH CAN BE DONE.

2:17:37THE PRUDENT DECISION TODAY IS

2:17:38TO CORRECT THE PROCESS CONDUCT

2:17:40A FAIR REBID.

2:17:42THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

2:17:44THANK YOU.

2:17:44>>.

2:17:45MATTHEW PIERCE.

2:17:46AND DIANA LINDEN.

2:17:53HOLD ON JUST A SECOND, SIR.

2:17:55MADAM CITY CLERK HOW MANY MORE

2:17:56NAMES DO WE HAVE?

2:17:57SO AFTER THE TWO I JUST CALLED.

2:18:00I DID RECEIVE ONE MORE AFTER WE

2:18:02COLLECTED THE COMMENT CARD BOX

2:18:04THAT IS RELEVANT TO ORDINANCE

2:18:075526.

2:18:08SO WE HAVE THREE.

2:18:10BECAUSE WE'VE MET OUR ONE HOUR

2:18:12OR SO DO WE WANT TO EXTEND IT

2:18:14FOR THOSE THREE INDIVIDUALS.

2:18:15AS WELL?

2:18:16YES I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION

2:18:19EXACTLY.

2:18:19>> ALL RIGHT.

2:18:20MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL

2:18:21THE ROLL.

2:18:24DUKE I.

2:18:25KILL RAIN.

2:18:25>> ALL RIGHT.

2:18:26LAST STRAW.

2:18:27UH, LEMON.

2:18:28UH LONG.

2:18:29UH STANKY.

2:18:30UH.

2:18:31DARNELL.

2:18:32GUNTER.

2:18:32UH EIGHT EYES MOTION CARRIED.

2:18:34GO AHEAD.

2:18:35SIR.

2:18:35>> I'M SORRY.

2:18:36THANK YOU.

2:18:37GOOD EVENING.

2:18:38>> MR. MAYOR.

2:18:38COUNCIL MEMBERS.

2:18:39UH, MY NAME IS MATT PIERCE.

2:18:41I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF WASTE PRO

2:18:43FLORIDA.

2:18:43UH, THE CITY'S CURRENT WASTE

2:18:45HAULER AND THE BIDDER UNDER THE

2:18:46RECENT, UH, SOLID WASTE RFP.

2:18:48UH, HERE ARE THE ADDRESS.

2:18:49TWO RESOLUTIONS, UH, PERTINENT

2:18:51TO WASTE PRO THAT ARE ON THE

2:18:52AGENDA UNDER ITEM 14.

2:18:54IT WOULD ALSO ASK IS THIS

2:18:56NEWMAN DID TO.

2:18:57UM.

2:18:57>> HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK

2:18:58TO THE COUNCIL AGAIN?

2:18:59UM, AT THAT TIME.

2:19:01UM, BUT JUST IN SUMMARY, UM, AS

2:19:03.

2:19:04>> THE COUNCIL KNOWS, WE FILED

2:19:05A FORMAL PROTEST OF THE NOTICE

2:19:06OF INTENT TO AWARD TO FCC ON

2:19:09AUGUST 21ST.

2:19:10UM, IN THAT PROTEST WE RAISE UH

2:19:12,AT LEAST SIX INDEPENDENT.

2:19:14GROUNDS.

2:19:15>> UH, THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD

2:19:16JUSTIFY SETTING THE AWARD ASIDE

2:19:18.

2:19:19UM.

2:19:19>> ALL OF THOSE THERE WERE

2:19:21NUMEROUS ERRORS, UM, STACKED ON

2:19:23TOP OF EACH OTHER HERE THAT

2:19:25RESULTS IN A PROCESS THAT WAS

2:19:26NOT FAIR AND NOT IMPARTIAL.

2:19:29AND UNDER.

2:19:30FLORIDA LAW, OF COURSE, UM

2:19:32PUBLIC PROCUREMENTS THE MOST

2:19:33IMPORTANT FACTOR IS THE WHOLE

2:19:35PROCESS IS FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.

2:19:37UH, THE RESIDENTS ARE ENTITLED

2:19:38TO THAT.

2:19:39UH, WE BELIEVE THE HAULERS ARE

2:19:41ENTITLED TO THAT AND THAT, UH,

2:19:42DID NOT HAPPEN HERE.

2:19:44UM, I CAN SPEAK LATER ABOUT

2:19:45SOME OF THOSE ERRORS BUT JUST

2:19:46TO GIVE ONE EXAMPLE.

2:19:47UH, MISS NEWMAN MENTIONED THE

2:19:48PUBLIC MEETINGS REQUIREMENTS

2:19:51ALSO NUMEROUS PUBLIC RECORDS

2:19:52REQUIREMENTS.

2:19:53UH, WE HAVE SUBMITTED NUMEROUS

2:19:55PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST UH, FOR

2:19:57THE BACKUP MATERIALS UH,

2:19:58RELATED TO THE RFP HAVE NOT

2:20:00RECEIVED ANYTHING.

2:20:02UM, THE FCC REPRESENTATIVE, UH,

2:20:04STATED THAT FCC CLEARLY SCORED

2:20:06HIGHER ON ALL THREE CATEGORIES

2:20:09BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE

2:20:10BACKUP EXPLAINING HOW THOSE

2:20:12CATEGORIES WERE SCORED.

2:20:13UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WASTEWATER WAS

2:20:15SCORED AT 27.33 AND

2:20:17QUALIFICATIONS.

2:20:18WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY DOCUMENTS

2:20:19SUPPORTING THAT AND HOW THAT

2:20:21WAS CALCULATED.

2:20:22UM I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT

2:20:24OF RFPS I'VE NEVER SEEN WHERE

2:20:26YOU DON'T RECEIVE AT LEAST THE

2:20:28INDIVIDUAL EVALUATORS SCORE

2:20:29SHEETS.

2:20:30SO WE CAN AT LEAST UNDERSTAND

2:20:32HOW THE PROCESS WAS DONE TO

2:20:35MAKE SURE IT WAS FAIR TO THE

2:20:35RESIDENTS AND AND THE HAULERS.

2:20:37UM, THE TWO RESOLUTIONS BEFORE

2:20:39THE COUNCIL TONIGHT.

2:20:40UH, THE FIRST IS TO REFER THE

2:20:42PROTEST WASTE PRO'S PROTEST TO

2:20:44DOA.

2:20:44UH, WE SUPPORT THAT UH, IN OUR

2:20:47DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY STAFF AND

2:20:48THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

2:20:49IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THEY

2:20:51SUPPORTED THAT AS WELL.

2:20:52UM, ON MONDAY EVENING A NEW

2:20:55RESOLUTION WAS ADDED WHICH WAS

2:20:56AFTER THE DEADLINE TO PUBLISH

2:20:58RESOLUTIONS.

2:20:58UM, AND THAT'S THE SECOND

2:21:01RESOLUTION WE'RE GOING TO TAKE

2:21:02UP WHICH IS JUST TO DENY THOSE

2:21:03PROTESTS OUTRIGHT, UH, WITHOUT

2:21:05A HEARING.

2:21:06AND AS MISS NEWMAN STATED, UH,

2:21:08THE CITY'S RULES, THE

2:21:10ORDINANCES, THE PROTEST

2:21:11PROCEDURES ARE CLEAR.

2:21:12THE CITY HAS TWO OPTIONS.

2:21:13YOU CAN REFER THE PROTEST TO

2:21:16ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE OR A

2:21:17HEARING OFFICER OR THE CITY

2:21:19COUNCIL CAN HEAR THE COUNCIL,

2:21:20UH, HEAR THE PROTEST DIRECTLY,

2:21:23WHICH WE'RE FINE WITH BUT ALL

2:21:24WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A HEARING

2:21:27ON THE PROTEST IF THE, UH,

2:21:29COUNCIL DECIDES TO PROCEED.

2:21:30UH, FINALLY, WE ALSO AGREE THAT

2:21:33WE THINK THIS RFP IS NOT

2:21:34FIXABLE.

2:21:35UM, WE DON'T THINK THERE'S A

2:21:36NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROTEST

2:21:38BECAUSE OF ALL THE ERRORS.

2:21:39AND THE BEST APPROACH IS TO

2:21:40REBID THIS AND GET IT RIGHT

2:21:41THERE SUFFICIENT TIME TO DO SO.

2:21:43THANK YOU.

2:21:44THANK YOU.

2:21:45>> DIANA LINTON AND LEWIS

2:21:49MADDEN.

2:21:54HI I'M DIANA LINTON AND I WOULD

2:21:56LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR

2:21:57GIVING US EXTRA TIME SO THAT WE

2:21:59DID EACH OF US GET TIME TO

2:22:01SPEAK.

2:22:01I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE

2:22:03PARENTS THAT HAVE CAME HERE TO

2:22:05SUPPORT.

2:22:05UM I AM A SENIOR RECREATION

2:22:08SPECIALIST FOR THE CITY OF CAPE

2:22:10CORAL AND I AM THE DIRECTOR OF

2:22:11THE PRESCHOOL AT FOUR FREEDOMS

2:22:13PARK WHICH HAS BEEN LICENSED

2:22:15THROUGH DCF FOR 165 CHILDREN

2:22:18SINCE 1992.

2:22:20I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK A LITTLE

2:22:21BIT ABOUT FOUR FREEDOM PARKS

2:22:24PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE.

2:22:26I HAVE ALSO LIVED IN THIS AREA

2:22:28UH SINCE 1978 SO I ACTUALLY WAS

2:22:32STARTING UM HIGH SCHOOL THE

2:22:34YEAR THAT CAPE CORAL WAS BEING

2:22:36BUILT.

2:22:37SO I'VE SEEN THE GROWTH AND I

2:22:38DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR

2:22:41REDEVELOPMENT, BUT I JUST DON'T

2:22:42WANT IT TO BE AT THE COST OF,

2:22:44YOU KNOW, HISTORY.

2:22:46SO AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE

2:22:49CITY OF CAPE CORAL WAS FOUNDED

2:22:51IN 1957 BY THE ROSEN BROTHERS.

2:22:53THEY CHOSE TO GIVE A PIECE OF

2:22:56PROPERTY AT THE BIMINI BASIN TO

2:22:59THE RESIDENTS FOR PEOPLE TO

2:23:00ENJOY.

2:23:01THEIR WORDS SPECIFICALLY WERE

2:23:03FOR FAMILIES TO ENJOY.

2:23:05AND I WANT TO SAY I SEE THAT

2:23:07EVERY DAY IT'S STILL HAPPENING

2:23:09AND CHILDREN ARE LEARNING THERE

2:23:11EVERY DAY AND IT IS JUST A

2:23:12WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PLACE TO

2:23:14BE.

2:23:15THEY ALSO FELT THAT THE FUTURE

2:23:17PARK HAD TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT

2:23:18NAME.

2:23:18THEREFORE IT WAS GIVEN THE NAME

2:23:20UM AFTER THE FOUR FREEDOMS PARK

2:23:23THAT FRANKLIN BLUFF SORRY IT

2:23:25WAS GIVEN THE NAME FOUR

2:23:27FREEDOMS PARK AFTER FRANKLIN

2:23:29ROOSEVELT'S 1941 SPEECH.

2:23:31THE FOUR FREEDOMS ARE THE

2:23:32FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THE FREEDOM

2:23:35OF WORSHIP, THE FREEDOM OF WANT

2:23:37AND THE FREEDOM OF FEAR JUST

2:23:40BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF TIME.

2:23:40I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE

2:23:42DESCRIPTION OF WHAT IS MEANT BY

2:23:43EACH ONE OF THEM.

2:23:45UM IT IS FOUR FREEDOMS IS THE

2:23:47CITY'S VERY FIRST PARK.

2:23:49IT OPENED ON SEPTEMBER 7TH 1963

2:23:52WITH THE GRAND UM GRAND OPENING

2:23:55CELEBRATION ON SEPTEMBER 19TH

2:23:581963 DURING WHICH TIME FRANKLIN

2:24:00D ROOSEVELT JR WAS A GUEST

2:24:02SPEAKER.

2:24:03SO IN MY OPINION THIS PARK

2:24:05SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS A

2:24:06HISTORIC BOTH SITE ALONGSIDE

2:24:09THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

2:24:10I FEEL THAT IT SHOULD STAY

2:24:11THERE AND THAT THE SCHOOL

2:24:13SHOULD BE ABLE TO REMAIN OPEN

2:24:15AND STILL UM GIVING TO THE TO

2:24:18THE FAMILIES THAT IT'S BEEN

2:24:20COVERING FOR YEARS AND YEARS

2:24:22AND YEARS.

2:24:24SO THAT WAS A BRIEF DESCRIPTION

2:24:25OF THE PARKS BEGINNING NOW I

2:24:27WOULD LIKE TO PAINT A PICTURE

2:24:28OF A TYPICAL DAY TO DAY

2:24:30ACTIVITIES AT THIS BEAUTIFUL

2:24:31PARK ON THE BIMINI THAT

2:24:33FAMILIES LIKE I SAID ARE STILL

2:24:35ENJOYING IN THE MORNING HOURS

2:24:36YOU WOULD SEE RESIDENTS SITTING

2:24:37BY THE WATER MEDITATING,

2:24:40FISHING, JUST ENJOYING THE

2:24:41MORNING BREEZE.

2:24:42FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO BE A

2:24:43LITTLE MORE ACTIVE THEY MAY BE

2:24:45BIKE RIDING, WALKING, WALKING

2:24:46THEIR DOGS AND THE PLAYGROUND

2:24:48AREA.

2:24:49IT'S NORMAL TO SEE PARENTS

2:24:50PLAYING WITH THEIR CHILDREN

2:24:52BEFORE SCHOOL, SHARING A SNACK

2:24:54TOGETHER OR FEEDING THEM AS

2:24:56MANY RESIDENT BIRDS OR SINGLES

2:24:59.

2:24:59THANK YOU.

2:25:01UH.

2:25:01>> HELLO, MY NAME IS LEWIS

2:25:11MANN.

2:25:12UM.

2:25:12>> I AM FORMALLY SUBMITTING A

2:25:14NOMINATION TODAY FOR FOUR

2:25:15FREEDOMS PARK AT 418 TARPON

2:25:18COURT TO BE DESIGNATED AS A

2:25:19HISTORIC OR CULTURAL RESOURCE

2:25:20ON THE CAPE CORAL CODE SECTION

2:25:242-120.194.

2:25:25FREEDOM'S PARK WAS ESTABLISHED

2:25:26IN 1964 BY CAPE CORAL AS THE

2:25:28EARLY DEVELOPERS JACK AND

2:25:29LEONARD ROSEN AND HISTORICAL

2:25:31RECORDS IDENTIFY AS CAPE CORAL

2:25:33FIRST PARK.

2:25:34FRANKLIN D ROOSEVELT JUNIOR AT

2:25:36TEN AND ITS DEDICATION FOR MORE

2:25:38THAN SIX DECADES, THIS

2:25:39WATERFRONT SITE HAS SERVED

2:25:40GENERATIONS OF CAPE CORAL

2:25:42RESIDENTS THROUGH RECREATION,

2:25:43COMMUNITY EVENTS, CHILDREN'S

2:25:44PROGRAMS, PRESCHOOL AND VPK

2:25:46SERVICES.

2:25:47THE CITY'S OWN ORDINANCE ALLOWS

2:25:48ANY PERSON TO NOMINATE A SITE

2:25:50AND REQUIRES A CITY COUNCIL TO

2:25:51HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITHIN 60

2:25:53DAYS.

2:25:53I'M ASKING THE CITY CLERK TO

2:25:55ACCEPT THIS NOMINATION INTO THE

2:25:57OFFICIAL RECORD AND ASKING

2:25:58COUNCIL TO SCHEDULE THAT

2:25:59HEARING.

2:25:59I AM ALSO ASKING COUNCIL NOT TO

2:26:02PERMIT ANY DEMOLITION,

2:26:03RELOCATION OR VARIABLE

2:26:05ALTERATION OF FOUR FREEDOMS

2:26:06PARK WHILE ITS HISTORIC STATUS

2:26:08IS BEING CONSIDERED WITH A 99

2:26:10YEAR GROUND LEASE AND

2:26:11REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL BEFORE

2:26:12YOU AT THE HISTORICAL REVIEW

2:26:15SHOULD HAPPEN BEFORE THE

2:26:16CHARACTER OF THE SITE IS

2:26:17PERMANENTLY CHANGED.

2:26:18THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT AGAINST

2:26:19RESPONSIBLE REDEVELOPMENT IT'S

2:26:21A REQUEST THAT THE CAPE CORAL

2:26:22FOR ITS OWN PRESERVATION

2:26:23PROCESS AND DETERMINE THE

2:26:24HISTORICAL VALUE OF ITS FIRST

2:26:26PARK BEFORE MAKING IRREVERSIBLE

2:26:28DECISIONS.

2:26:28PLEASE ACCEPT THIS NOMINATION

2:26:30SCHEDULE THE REQUIRED HEARING

2:26:31AND PRESERVE FOR FREEDOM'S PARK

2:26:32WHILE THAT PROCESS TAKES PLACE

2:26:33.

2:26:34UM THE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE

2:26:36ABOUT THE BENAMI.

2:26:36BIN I MEAN.

2:26:37UH BASIN PROJECT IS THE FIRE

2:26:40AND EMS SERVICES THAT THEY ARE

2:26:42GOING TO TAX IF THERE IS EVER

2:26:44AN ISSUE THERE UM EX VOLUNTEER

2:26:46FIREFIGHTER FROM NEW YORK

2:26:48YOU'RE BUILDING MULTIPLE 12

2:26:50STORY BUILDINGS IS PROPOSED OR

2:26:52EVEN TALLER AND THE NEAREST

2:26:54LADDER TRUCK.

2:26:55>> THAT WOULD.

2:26:55>> BE ABLE TO GET TO SOME KIND

2:26:57OF DISTANCE FOR A POSSIBLE

2:26:59RESCUE IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE

2:27:00OF THE TOWN.

2:27:01THERE SHOULD BE MORE

2:27:03RECONSIDERATION OF FIRE

2:27:04SERVICES HAPPENING OR EMS WITH

2:27:06THE INFLUX OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD

2:27:07BE IN THAT AREA, POSSIBLY

2:27:09ANOTHER SUBSTATION OR ANOTHER

2:27:11PIECE OF APPARATUS THAT COULD

2:27:12BE PURCHASED TO BE BROUGHT INTO

2:27:14THE AREA TO HELP THEM OUT IF

2:27:16ANYTHING DOES ARISE.

2:27:17HOPEFULLY IT DOES NOT THOUGH.

2:27:18THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

2:27:19HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

2:27:21THANK YOU.

2:27:22IS THAT THE LAST SPEAKER MADAM

2:27:24CITY CLERK CITIZENS INPUT IS

2:27:26NOW CLOSED.

2:27:27I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY COUNCIL

2:27:28DISCUSSION.

2:27:31UH, SEEING NO LIGHTS ON.

2:27:33UH, JUST WANT TO THANK

2:27:34EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TODAY

2:27:35,UH, AND VOICING THEIR

2:27:38OPINION.

2:27:38UM, I THINK THAT, UH I SEE A

2:27:41COUPLE LIGHTS POPPING ON NOW.

2:27:43UM, AS FAR AS UP, UH, MY

2:27:46UNDERSTANDING THIS WILL BE ON

2:27:47OUR COMMITTEE THE WHOLE UH,

2:27:49MEETING NEXT WEEK.

2:27:50UH, TO ANSWER SOME OF THE

2:27:53QUESTIONS UH, THAT I HEARD HERE

2:27:55TONIGHT I THINK WILL BE

2:27:56ANSWERED NEXT WEEK.

2:27:58UH, SO I WOULD INVITE YOU TO

2:28:00EITHER ATTEND, UH OR TUNE IN,

2:28:03UM, UH, FOR STAFF'S

2:28:07PRESENTATION UH, FOR ME UH,

2:28:10PERSONALLY UH UH, WHEN I WENT

2:28:13BACK AND REVIEWED THE.

2:28:15UH.

2:28:16>> MEETING THAT WE HAD SEVERAL

2:28:18MONTHS AGO, UH, THE ROAD

2:28:21IMPROVEMENTS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE

2:28:23ASSESSED.

2:28:24I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE

2:28:26TAPE.

2:28:26I LISTENED TO IT.

2:28:27SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, UH,

2:28:31THAT'S WHERE WE GOT TO GET BACK

2:28:32TO.

2:28:33SO THAT'S MY POSITION ON IT.

2:28:35THAT'S MY POSITION NEXT WEEK

2:28:37AND THAT'LL BE MY POSITION WHEN

2:28:39IT COMES TIME TO VOTE.

2:28:41SO IF IT DOESN'T CHANGE UH

2:28:43BETWEEN NOW AND THEN I'LL BE IN

2:28:44EVENT UH BECAUSE I THINK UH.

2:28:47WE WE MADE A PROMISE UH THAT IT

2:28:49WOULD BE NOT ASSESSED AND I

2:28:52CANNOT ANSWER YOU TODAY TO TELL

2:28:54YOU WHY IT WENT TO THE

2:28:56ASSESSMENT SIDE.

2:28:57HOPEFULLY YOU WILL.

2:28:58HEAR THAT NEXT WEEK.

2:28:59UH, BUT THAT'S MY POSITION ON

2:29:01IT.

2:29:02UM, UP CLOSE ENOUGH AS IT IS.

2:29:05UH, SO TO ADD UH, I KNOW IF I

2:29:09WERE TO DO THAT MONTHS AGO THEN

2:29:11I WOULDN'T HAVE SUPPORTED

2:29:13MOVING THAT PARTICULAR DESIGN

2:29:15FORWARD.

2:29:16SO I THINK WE STILL HAVE TIME

2:29:17TO GET IT RIGHT AND UH I THINK

2:29:20WE WILL UH, COUNCIL MEMBER

2:29:23LONG.

2:29:23THAT WAS IT.

2:29:24>> MAYOR.

2:29:24I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE

2:29:25FOR.

2:29:26>> FOR COMING AND UM, SPEAKING

2:29:27TO TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT

2:29:28THEY'VE GOTTEN THE CITY BUT UH

2:29:29,FOR NORTH THREE SPECIFICALLY

2:29:31I COULDN'T SAY IT ANY BETTER.

2:29:32THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

2:29:33UM UH, I BROUGHT THAT TO THE

2:29:34CITY MANAGER'S ATTENTION LAST

2:29:36WEEK AND I'M TOLD WE'RE GOING

2:29:37TO HAVE A, UM, COMMITTEE OF THE

2:29:39WHOLE TO DISCUSS, UH, HOW THAT

2:29:41SHIFT TOOK PLACE WITH REGARDS

2:29:42TO NOT ASSESSED VERSUS ASSESSED

2:29:44UM, VERY UH SKEPTICAL THAT I'LL

2:29:46BE SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSE

2:29:47BUT I GUESS WE'LL SEE UH,

2:29:48DURING THAT DISCUSSION NEXT

2:29:49WEEK.

2:29:50THANK YOU.

2:29:51COUNCILMEMBER LASKER.

2:29:52THANK YOU MAYOR, JUST REAL

2:29:53QUICK.

2:29:53UM.

2:29:54>> THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE

2:29:55EARLY ON MIKE, I THINK YOUR

2:29:57NAME IS ABOUT.

2:29:58THE UM.

2:29:59THE COST FOR A BIGGER PROPERTY

2:30:02FOR UAP.

2:30:02MAUREEN IS THERE STAFF THAT CAN

2:30:04GET WITH HIM AND EXPLAIN THAT

2:30:05TO HIM?

2:30:06OKAY.

2:30:07>> THANK YOU.

2:30:08UM.

2:30:09LET'S SEE, UH, DAVE NEWTON YOU

2:30:14SPOKE ABOUT THE EPA WATER

2:30:16LOANS?

2:30:16YES.

2:30:17I BROUGHT THOSE BACK FROM DC.

2:30:19I SAY TWO YEARS AGO WHEN I WHEN

2:30:21I GOT BACK UP HERE I THINK IN

2:30:2425 IS WHEN I WENT TO DC AND I

2:30:26LEARNED ABOUT THOSE UM AND WE

2:30:28DID BRING THEM I DID BRING THEM

2:30:30BACK AND THEY HAVE BEEN UM

2:30:32REVIEWED AND STUDIED BY STAFF.

2:30:34HOWEVER, WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT

2:30:37THE THEY'RE MORE COSTLY THAN

2:30:39OUR CURRENT ASSESSMENT BELIEVE

2:30:40IT OR NOT AND I CAN GET WITH

2:30:42YOU OFFLINE OR VIA EMAIL AND WE

2:30:45CAN CHAT ABOUT THAT.

2:30:46THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO

2:30:48KNOW IS COULD UM MR. MASON OR

2:30:50MR. CITY MANAGER COULD YOU TALK

2:30:53ABOUT UM MR. NEWTON'S COMMENTS

2:30:55ABOUT CAPITALIZED INTEREST?

2:31:03IF YOU'RE JUST CAPITALIZING THE

2:31:04INTEREST COST IN THE BASE COST

2:31:07YOU'RE STILL PAYING FOR IT.

2:31:10OKAY.

2:31:11>> IT'S IT DOES.

2:31:12>> IT IT'S NOT IT DOESN'T

2:31:13REMOVE THE COST.

2:31:14IT'S JUST.

2:31:15WHERE YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT.

2:31:17THANK YOU AND THANK YOU, MAYOR

2:31:19FOR WHAT YOU STATED UM UH,

2:31:22EARLIER UH, YOUR COMMENTS

2:31:23BECAUSE I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

2:31:25UM, MR. HIGGINS TALKED ABOUT

2:31:26SOLID WASTE AND YES, THAT'S

2:31:28COMING UP.

2:31:29SO THANK YOU TO THE SPEAKERS

2:31:30WHO SPOKE REGARDING THAT AND

2:31:32UH, WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION

2:31:34SHORTLY.

2:31:35UM, MISS ALVAREZ, YOU WILL BE

2:31:37ABLE TO SEE.

2:31:38>> THE BIDS.

2:31:39>> UH, FROM THE UP THEY WILL BE

2:31:41ATTACHED, UH, TO OUR BACKUP

2:31:43MATERIALS.

2:31:43SO WHEN THOSE ARE SENT TO US,

2:31:46UH, THEY'RE AVAILABLE ONLINE

2:31:48FOR YOU TO REVIEW.

2:31:50UM.

2:31:51AND I'M STILL SMILING.

2:31:54UM, AND I THINK WHEN I SEE SEE

2:31:57THE.

2:31:57DETERMINATION AND.

2:31:59I THINK THAT'S IT.

2:32:00THANK YOU.

2:32:00MAYOR.

2:32:01COUNCIL MEMBER LEILA.

2:32:02YEAH.

2:32:03>> UM.

2:32:03IS MR. LEE STILL HERE?

2:32:08OKAY, I GUESS HE'S LEFT.

2:32:10UM, HOPEFULLY HE.

2:32:12PUT HIS.

2:32:13EMAIL ON HIS COMMENT CARD.

2:32:16SO THAT.

2:32:17WE CAN GET BACK TO HIM ABOUT

2:32:19THE HIGHEST CONTROL AT LAKE

2:32:22SARATOGA.

2:32:23AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO KNOW,

2:32:26UH.

2:32:26MR. CITY ATTORNEY.

2:32:29UM.

2:32:30>> MISS NEWMAN FROM.

2:32:33COASTAL MADE.

2:32:35>> A.

2:32:35COMMENT THAT UM.

2:32:37,COUNCIL.

2:32:38>> CAN'T DENY THE PROTEST.

2:32:40I REALIZE WE'RE GOING TO BE

2:32:42DISCUSSING THE CITY OR THE

2:32:45SOLID WASTE SITUATION, UM, AT

2:32:48THE CAO BUT EVEN STILL ONLY WE

2:32:51PAY BACK.

2:32:52I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS THIS

2:32:54TRUE?

2:32:55COUNCIL CAN'T DENY THE PROTEST

2:32:58THAT.

2:32:59COUNCIL HAS WOULD BE SETTING US

2:33:01UP FOR A LAWSUIT.

2:33:02THAT IS.

2:33:03THAT'S INCORRECT.

2:33:04I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT

2:33:06ASSESSMENT.

2:33:06>> YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO

2:33:07DENY.

2:33:08>> I'M SORRY.

2:33:08SPEAK LOUDER.

2:33:09I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE

2:33:11ASSESSMENT.

2:33:12I BELIEVE SHE IS INACCURATE.

2:33:14WRONG.

2:33:15AND YOU HAVE THE LEGAL

2:33:17AUTHORITY TO DENY THE BID

2:33:18PROTEST.

2:33:19ALL RIGHT.

2:33:21THANK YOU.

2:33:22MR. LONG.

2:33:23UH, COUNCIL.

2:33:24THAT'S ALL.

2:33:25>> THANK YOU.

2:33:25COUNCIL MEMBER KILREA YEAH, I

2:33:27JUST JUST TO CLOSE IN.

2:33:29>> ON IWI P3 ONE OF.

2:33:31MY CONCERNS.

2:33:32IS THAT WE'RE.

2:33:32>> CONSISTENT WITH.

2:33:33>> WHAT WE DID.

2:33:34IN OTHER.

2:33:34NEW RFPS.

2:33:35AND THAT.

2:33:36>> BASICALLY THAT THE.

2:33:38ROAD PORTION.

2:33:39>> OF THAT IS.

2:33:40CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE.

2:33:41DID AND OTHERS.

2:33:41WITH RESPECT TO THAT, I DON'T

2:33:44UNDERSTAND HOW.

2:33:46ALTERNATE FIVE INCREASE THAT

2:33:49COST.

2:33:49SO WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT NEXT

2:33:51WEEK.

2:33:52HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GET CLARIFIED

2:33:53.

2:33:53AND WE.

2:33:54WE HAVE TIME TO CORRECT THAT I

2:33:56THINK IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH

2:33:58IT.

2:33:59SO UH AND I THINK THERE IS AT

2:34:00THIS POINT SO I JUST WANTED TO

2:34:01MAKE THAT CLEAR TO ALL WE HAVE

2:34:03ALL THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT

2:34:05CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND I

2:34:06THINK THAT.

2:34:07YOU KNOW.

2:34:08IT'S A LARGE ENOUGH COST THAT

2:34:09WE NOW FACE FROM JUST MOVING

2:34:12THE PROCESS FORWARD IN THAT

2:34:14AREA.

2:34:14AND WE DON'T NEED TO BELABOR

2:34:16WITH ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT

2:34:18SHOULDN'T BE INVOLVED IN IT.

2:34:19AND I'M HOPING THAT IT WAS DONE

2:34:22IN ERROR.

2:34:23THERE WAS AN HONEST ERROR AND

2:34:26YOU KNOW WE MAY HAVE CHANGED

2:34:28THE MANNER IN WHICH WE'RE

2:34:29THINKING ABOUT DOING IT, BUT I

2:34:30THINK WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT

2:34:32.

2:34:32AND THAT'S WHERE MY HEAD'S ON

2:34:35AND THAT'S A REAL MISSION.

2:34:36THANK YOU.

2:34:37>> MAYOR UH, COUNCIL MEMBER

2:34:38COULD DO.

2:34:39THANK YOU.

2:34:40>> MAYOR.

2:34:41WE HAD A.

2:34:42SPEAKER SAY THAT THEY DID A

2:34:44PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST

2:34:45REGARDING A BUSINESS TAX

2:34:47RECEIPT ON AUGUST 26TH AND THEY

2:34:49STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY

2:34:51RECORDS.

2:34:52COMPLETE A CODE COMPLIANCE

2:34:55COMPLAINT SO I GUESS I CAN

2:34:56FOLLOW UP WITH THEM.

2:34:59UM THAT'S ALL AND ALSO ACTUALLY

2:35:01ONE QUESTION FOR OUR CITY

2:35:02ATTORNEY WHEN IT COMES TO

2:35:04TAKING A RECESS, IS THERE A

2:35:06MOTION REQUIRED?

2:35:10SO TECHNICALLY.

2:35:12I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO RELY

2:35:14UPON.

2:35:16AND I WANT TO JUST CLEAR IT UP

2:35:18CHANNEL.

2:35:19>> YOU'RE RELYING UPON.

2:35:21OH WHICH IS PRECEDENCE OF

2:35:24MOTION.

2:35:24BUT THERE WAS NO QUESTION IS

2:35:25UNDER DEBATE AT THAT POINT IN

2:35:26TIME SO IT REALLY DOES NOT

2:35:27APPLY.

2:35:28SO NOW I HAVE TO GO TO THE

2:35:29PRESIDING OFFICER.

2:35:30PORTION OF IT.

2:35:31>> WHICH I THINK IS WHAT IS.

2:35:32APPLICABLE HERE.

2:35:33AND THE PRESIDING OFFICER IS IN

2:35:35FACT THE MAYOR.

2:35:36UM AND.

2:35:37>> IT TALKS ABOUT HIM BEING THE

2:35:38CHAIR OF THE MEETING AND AND IF

2:35:41YOU LOOK AT THE ONE LAST

2:35:43SENTENCE, A MAJORITY OF THE

2:35:45VOTE OF ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS

2:35:46PRESENT BUT NOT LESS THAN FOUR

2:35:48SHALL BE REQUIRED TO OVERRULE A

2:35:50DECISION OF THE PRESIDING

2:35:51OFFICER.

2:35:51THE PRESIDING OFFICER MADE A

2:35:53DECISION TO MAKE A BREAK.

2:35:54IT'S REQUIRED UPON YOU TO TAKE

2:35:55ACTION IF THAT IS SO.

2:35:57>> WE DIDN'T.

2:35:58FOLLOW OUR RULES?

2:35:58NO THERE WAS YOU DID BECAUSE

2:36:01THE PRESIDING OFFICER, THE

2:36:02MAYOR DECIDED TO TAKE A BREAK

2:36:04IF YOU WANTED TO OVERRULE THAT

2:36:05IT REQUIRES AT LEAST FIVE.

2:36:06OF YOU.

2:36:07>> RIGHT.

2:36:08>> SO WE COULD HAVE SAID NO,

2:36:09WE'RE NOT TAKING A BREAK.

2:36:10YOU COULD HAVE RIGHT.

2:36:11NOW ON THAT WE HAD A SPECIAL

2:36:15MEETING WHERE SOMEONE RANDOMLY

2:36:17ONE PERSON SITTING UP HERE

2:36:18RANDOMLY CALLED OUT A CALL THE

2:36:19QUESTION CAN YOU POINT TO ME IN

2:36:21OUR RULES WHERE THAT WOULD

2:36:23APPLY?

2:36:25YES.

2:36:26>> SO IF YOU RECALL THE

2:36:30PRACTICE OF CALLING THE

2:36:33QUESTION.

2:36:36PERTAINS TO THE PREVIOUS

2:36:40QUESTION SAYS A MOTION CALLING

2:36:42FOR THE PREVIOUS QUESTION MUST

2:36:43BE SECONDED.

2:36:44THERE'S NO REFERENCE TO THEM

2:36:46BEING IDENTIFIED SO YOU HAVE TO

2:36:47READ THAT.

2:36:48RIGHT.

2:36:49>> AND IF IT'S.

2:36:49NOT IDENTIFIED.

2:36:50THEN WE FALL BACK TO ROBERT'S

2:36:51RULES AND ROBERT'S RULES SAYS

2:36:52THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FLOOR

2:36:53.

2:36:54NO I DISAGREE WITH YOU.

2:36:56IT DOES.

2:36:57IT IT.

2:36:57IT DOES.

2:36:58WELL I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU

2:37:00BELIEVE THAT TO BE UM BUT WHEN

2:37:02YOU LOOK AT OH AND YOU HAVE TO

2:37:05READ IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH.

2:37:07L UH THERE IS NO REFERENCE TO

2:37:10IT'S AS IF A MOTION FOR THE

2:37:10PREVIOUS QUESTION IS ORDERED

2:37:12BY.

2:37:12>> A VOTE OF THE COUNCIL.

2:37:13IT SHALL HAVE THE EFFECT OF

2:37:14CLOSING OFF ALL DEBATE AND

2:37:16BRINGING THE COUNCIL TO A VOTE

2:37:17.

2:37:17IT DOES NOT MAKE REFERENCE TO

2:37:19NOR IS IDENTIFIED AT THE

2:37:21INDIVIDUAL WHO MAKES THE MOTION

2:37:22MUST BE.

2:37:23IDENTIFIED BY THE MAYOR.

2:37:25SO RIGHT.

2:37:26BUT YOU KNOW AT THE END OF OUR

2:37:27COUNCIL RULES IF IT'S NOT

2:37:28IDENTIFIED WE FALL BACK TO

2:37:29ROBERT'S RULES AND ROBERT'S

2:37:31RULES DOES SAY YOU MUST HAVE

2:37:32THE FLOOR TO CALL THE QUESTION

2:37:34YELLING QUESTION OR CALL THE

2:37:35QUESTION WITHOUT RECOGNITION OF

2:37:36ORDER IS OUT OF ORDER.

2:37:39UNFORTUNATELY, THE.

2:37:40>> WAY I'VE INTERPRETED THE

2:37:41RULES AND THE PROCESS THAT HAS

2:37:42BEEN DONE.

2:37:43HERE BY THE COUNCIL.

2:37:44IS THAT YOU'VE ACCEPTED THE

2:37:45MOTIONS.

2:37:46UH, WHEN THEY ARE MADE.

2:37:48WITHOUT THE INDIVIDUAL BEING

2:37:50RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR.

2:37:51BUT THEN WE STILL FELL BACK ON

2:37:52ROBERT'S RULES WITH THE

2:37:53MAJORITY VOTE.

2:37:54SO WE'RE PICKING AND CHOOSING

2:37:56WHAT APPLIES.

2:37:57I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT

2:37:58THE.

2:37:59WHAT THE PRACTICE.

2:38:00>> HAS BEEN AND I READ THAT IN

2:38:01CONJUNCTION WITH.

2:38:03UH THE TWO DIFFERENT UH,

2:38:05PROVISIONS WITHIN YOUR RULES.

2:38:06OKAY.

2:38:06>> I THINK THAT WE SHOULD

2:38:07PROBABLY DISCUSS THIS FURTHER

2:38:09AT LENGTH BECAUSE IT'S NOT

2:38:10CLEAR AND WHEN IT'S NOT CLEAR

2:38:11IT FOLLOWS THE ROBERT'S RULES

2:38:12AND ROBERT'S RULES IS CLEAR.

2:38:13THANK YOU.

2:38:15COUNCIL MEMBER DONNELL.

2:38:17YEAH, I, UM I KNOW STAFF KEEPS

2:38:19TALLY OF THAT.

2:38:20>> WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT

2:38:21THE SOLID WASTE A MINUTE.

2:38:22I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT

2:38:23ALT FIVE HAS MY ATTENTION ALSO

2:38:26STAFF WILL BE TALKING ABOUT

2:38:27THAT AT THE COW AND THE YOU THE

2:38:30UP PIECE UM THE OTHER NOTE THAT

2:38:34IT WAS IT WAS DOWN HERE OF UH

2:38:37FORGIVE ME BUT IT'S TRYING TO

2:38:39GET NOTES ON ALL OF YOU ALL AND

2:38:41.

2:38:43I KNOW THE ONE THAT WE

2:38:44MENTIONED YES, THE ONE ABOUT

2:38:46THE HYACINTH THAT'S A I DON'T

2:38:49KNOW IF WE CAN THAT IS AN ISSUE

2:38:50IN THOSE THOSE OR I DON'T KNOW

2:38:51IF THE GENTLEMAN STILL HERE

2:38:52THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE YOU KNOW

2:38:54FRESH WATER UH LAKES I WANT TO

2:38:56PUT STAFF OUT THERE THAT NEEDS

2:38:58TO BE ADDRESSED AND IF COUNCIL

2:39:00HAS TO GET INVOLVED.

2:39:01BUT LAST THING UM.

2:39:05LAST THING.

2:39:08THE THING THAT I I'M TRYING.

2:39:10I APPRECIATE IT.

2:39:11I THINK IT'S HEALTHY TO HAVE

2:39:13PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES A DIVERSE

2:39:16AUDIENCE.

2:39:16THE ONE THING THAT I'M A LITTLE

2:39:18BIT CONFUSED ESPECIALLY TONIGHT

2:39:21UM, IS THE FACT THAT A ONE OF

2:39:23THE RESIDENTS WHO'S BEEN A LONG

2:39:24TERM MEMBER HERE AND BEEN A

2:39:27VERY POSITIVE MEMBER HERE WAS

2:39:30CALLED OUT I THINK VERY

2:39:32DISRESPECTFULLY BUT THAT'S JUST

2:39:33MY OWN THOUGHT.

2:39:34BUT BUT THEY GOT CALLED OUT FOR

2:39:36IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF

2:39:38PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THE PODIUM

2:39:39AND THEY WERE SPEAKING

2:39:41POSITIVELY ABOUT THE.

2:39:43CITY AND I REMEMBER THE DAY

2:39:45THAT HAPPENED THAT THE PEOPLE

2:39:47WERE REALLY UPSET THAT THE

2:39:50PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THE PODIUM

2:39:51WERE SPEAKING.

2:39:52ALL OF THEM WERE SPEAKING

2:39:55POSITIVELY ABOUT THE.

2:39:55CITY.

2:39:56>> NOW THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT

2:40:00WHERE I'M CONFUSED IS THAT THE

2:40:03SAME PEOPLE WHO WERE UPSET WITH

2:40:07ALL OF THE POSITIVE PEOPLE

2:40:08COMING SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER WHEN

2:40:11IT'S ALL NEGATIVE IT'S OKAY.

2:40:13THAT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION

2:40:15THAT'S ENTIRELY CONFUSING TO ME

2:40:16.

2:40:19I WILL GET WITH YOU BECAUSE I

2:40:21REALLY WOULD HELP YOU TO HELP

2:40:22ME.

2:40:22UNDERSTAND THAT SPEAKING OUT.

2:40:23BECAUSE I WILL SAY TO YOU WE

2:40:25HAVE BOTH HERE.

2:40:27YES, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF

2:40:28PEOPLE WHO ARE UPSET.

2:40:29CASE IN POINT BUT I'M TELLING

2:40:31YOU TELLING YOU HONESTLY THERE

2:40:33ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO

2:40:33ACTUALLY LOVE.

2:40:34>> IT.

2:40:35HERE AND THEY SAYING THEY WON'T

2:40:36COME BECAUSE FOR FEAR OF WHAT

2:40:38HAPPENED TO THE ONE PERSON

2:40:40TONIGHT.

2:40:40WHO WAS HERE TO SAY SOMETHING

2:40:41POSITIVE.

2:40:42.

2:40:43>> NOT THAT YOU AGREE WITH IT,

2:40:44THAT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION.

2:40:46WE'LL TALK I WILL LOOK YOU AND

2:40:48I WILL TALK.

2:40:48THANK YOU MAYOR.

2:40:49THAT'S ALL.

2:40:50UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS THANK YOU.

2:40:51THANK MA'AM.

2:40:56>> IF I HAVE TO.

2:40:56ASK YOU AGAIN, WE'LL ASK YOU TO

2:40:58,UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

2:40:59THANK YOU.

2:41:00>> THANK YOU MAYOR.

2:41:00YEAH I I TO UH UM UH, OF THE

2:41:04SAME MINDSET THAT UH.

2:41:05UM.

2:41:06>> FIVE WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE

2:41:09INCLUDED IN THE ASSESSABLE

2:41:10DOLLARS.

2:41:10UH, I SPOKE WITH STAFF UH UH,

2:41:13ABOUT IT UH, AFTER THE MEETING

2:41:15.

2:41:15UM.

2:41:16>> AND, UH AND IT WASN'T SO UH

2:41:21,AT THE CAO UH, THERE IS GOING

2:41:23TO BE DISCUSSION ON HOW THAT.

2:41:25GETS CARVED OUT.

2:41:27AND HOW THAT GETS PAID FOR A

2:41:29DIFFERENT WAY.

2:41:30UM, AND I WAS ASSURED THAT UH,

2:41:32WHAT WAS APPROVED UH WILL SERVE

2:41:36AS A NOT TO EXCEED BUT IT CAN

2:41:37BE MADE LESS UH AND SO I'M I'M

2:41:41ANXIOUS FOR THE CAO UH TO GET

2:41:43THE PRESENTATION ON WHAT THOSE

2:41:46NET NET COSTS WOULD BE.

2:41:47UM THEY WON'T NECESSARILY BE

2:41:49THE GROSS COSTS THAT WE'VE SEEN

2:41:51INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT

2:41:52CALCULATION BUT WHAT THE NET

2:41:53COST WOULD BE WHEN REMOVED UH

2:41:56AND PLACED IN ANOTHER IN

2:41:58ANOTHER UH REVENUE SOURCE TO

2:41:59PAY UH FOR THAT FOR THAT

2:42:01IMPROVEMENT.

2:42:02SO I'M ANXIOUS FOR THE CAO AS

2:42:04WELL BECAUSE I TOO AS HAS BEEN

2:42:06SPOKEN BEFORE IF IT'S NOT

2:42:07CARVED OUT UH I WILL END UP

2:42:09BEING A NO VOTE.

2:42:11UH AND THE LAST WAS UH UH ONE

2:42:14OF OUR SPEAKERS HERE EARLIER

2:42:15UH, SPOKE ABOUT THE CITY, UH,

2:42:18COMPLETING THE UH, PROJECT THAT

2:42:20SLIP AWAY, UH, AND HOW QUICKLY

2:42:22IT GOT DONE.

2:42:23AND SO, UM, THAT IS NOT A CITY

2:42:25PROJECT FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT

2:42:27ARE UNAWARE, UM, SLIP AWAY IS A

2:42:29PRIVATE ENTITY OWNED BY A

2:42:32PRIVATE COMPANY JUST LIKE ANY

2:42:34OTHER PLACE.

2:42:35AND IF THERE WAS DRINKING AT

2:42:37THE BAR BY A MINOR OR A MINOR

2:42:40BEING ALLOWED ACCESS TO AN AREA

2:42:41THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED

2:42:43IT IT SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE

2:42:46ANY OTHER RESTAURANT IN OUR

2:42:48COMMUNITY.

2:42:49LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE MADE

2:42:51AWARE OF IT.

2:42:51LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD WOULD

2:42:53CHECK IT OUT JUST LIKE IT WAS

2:42:56AT ANY OTHER RESTAURANT OR BAR

2:42:58UH IN OUR CITY.

2:43:00SO IF THAT IS AN ISSUE UH THAT

2:43:02IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND

2:43:04CCPD NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK AT

2:43:06UM, UH WHO IS BEING ALLOWED

2:43:08WHERE AND AND AND IF IT IS

2:43:11INAPPROPRIATE ILLEGAL UH THEN

2:43:12IT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH.

2:43:14UH BUT BUT THAT'S THAT'S NOT A

2:43:16THAT IS NOT A CITY FACILITY.

2:43:18SO UH THAT'S IT MAYOR.

2:43:19THANK YOU.

2:43:20,COUNCILMEMBER LONG.

2:43:21YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK I WANTED

2:43:22.

2:43:23>> TO UH, TALK ON THE HYACINTH

2:43:24AND MY DESIRE TO HAVE SOMEONE I

2:43:25GUESS LOOK INTO THAT.

2:43:26I PERSONALLY GREW UP LIKE YOU

2:43:28DID.

2:43:28UM, THE CITY MANAGER IN THESE

2:43:29CANALS AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT

2:43:31PROBLEM NOW, UM, THAT IT DIDN'T

2:43:32APPEAR TO BE BACK THEN.

2:43:33I'M NOT SURE, UH, WHAT THE

2:43:35ISSUE IS, BUT, UM, MY HOME THAT

2:43:36I GREW UP ON MANY, MANY YEARS

2:43:39AGO MY PARENTS STILL LIVE THERE

2:43:40AND THEY ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH

2:43:41THE SAME EXACT SCENARIO WITH

2:43:42REGARDS TO THE OVERGROWTH AND

2:43:43THEY CALLED AND HAD TO CALL

2:43:45AGAIN AND HYACINTH CAME OUT AND

2:43:47ONLY SPRAY THAT SMALL AREA.

2:43:48SO IF WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF

2:43:49UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THAT

2:43:50PROCESS HAS CHANGED I IMAGINE

2:43:52LIKE ALL OTHER THINGS IT'S

2:43:53PROBABLY MONEY.

2:43:54UM AND THEN AT LEAST PROVIDE

2:43:56THAT RESIDENT WITH THAT

2:43:56INFORMATION I APPRECIATE IT

2:43:58THANK YOU.

2:44:00OKAY.

2:44:00>> UH, SEEING NO OTHER LIGHTS

2:44:02ON, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE ANY

2:44:04FURTHER THAN AGENDA, WE'VE BEEN

2:44:05HERE ABOUT TWO HOURS AND 45

2:44:07MINUTES.

2:44:07I THINK WE'LL TAKE A TEN MINUTE

2:44:08BREAK.

2:44:08UH, UNLESS COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS

2:44:12TO MAKE A MOTION.

2:57:25HE SAYS.

2:57:25>> OKAY, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE

2:57:34MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

2:57:36ITEM NINE IS APPROVAL OF THE

2:57:37MINUTES.

2:57:38UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION

2:57:39REGARDING THE MINUTES OF THE

2:57:40SPECIAL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER

2:57:4210TH, 2026?

2:57:44MOTION TO APPROVE.

2:57:46SECOND.

2:57:47>> ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NONE.

2:57:50ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

2:57:51AYE.

2:57:52>> ANY OPPOSED?

2:57:53MOTION CARRIES.

2:57:55DO WE HAVE A MOTION REGARDING

2:57:56THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR

2:57:58MEETING SEPTEMBER 16TH 2026 A

2:58:00MOTION.

2:58:01TO APPROVE.

2:58:02SECOND.

2:58:02>> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

2:58:05SEEING NONE.

2:58:06ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

2:58:07AYE.

2:58:08AYE.

2:58:08ANY OPPOSED?

2:58:09MOTION CARRIES.

2:58:11DO WE HAVE A MOTION REGARDING

2:58:13THE MINUTES OF A SPECIAL

2:58:14MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 23RD,

2:58:162026?

2:58:16MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.

2:58:18IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

2:58:21SEEING NONE.

2:58:22ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

2:58:23AYE.

2:58:23ANY OPPOSED?

2:58:26MOTION CARRIES.

2:58:27DO WE HAVE A MOTION REGARDING

2:58:29THE MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING

2:58:30OF SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2026?

2:58:33MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.

2:58:35ANY DISCUSSION?

2:58:38SEEING NONE.

2:58:39ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

2:58:40AYE.

2:58:40>> AYE.

2:58:41>> ANY OPPOSED?

2:58:43MOTION CARRIES.

2:58:44ITEM TEN IS CONSENT AGENDA.

2:58:47I'LL NOW OPEN A CONSENT AGENDA

2:58:50FOR COUNCIL TO PULL ANY ITEMS.

2:58:52UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DO.

2:58:55THANK YOU.

2:58:55>> MAYOR.

2:58:56ITEM NUMBER J RESOLUTION 257

2:58:58DASH 26.

2:59:03UH.

2:59:03>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEEMAN.

2:59:04YES.

2:59:05>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL TWO

2:59:076626.

2:59:08AND WHAT NUMBER IS THAT.

2:59:10OR WHAT.

2:59:11LETTER I SHOULD SAY?

2:59:12UH OH.

2:59:12OH, YES.

2:59:14ALL RIGHT.

2:59:16AND COUNCIL MEMBER LONG.

2:59:17YEAH.

2:59:18>> UH, MAYOR TEN C RESOLUTION

2:59:20231 DASH 26 PLEASE.

2:59:22SEE 231.

2:59:23DASH 26.

2:59:24ITEM C SO WE.

2:59:27PULLED UH 231 DASH 26

2:59:30RESOLUTION 231 DASH 26.

2:59:32WE'VE PULLED.

2:59:34RESOLUTION 257 DASH 26 AND WE

2:59:37PULLED RESOLUTION 266 DASH 26

2:59:41AND I WILL ENTERTAIN ENTERTAIN

2:59:42A MOTION MOTION.

2:59:44>> TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF

2:59:45CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.

2:59:47SECOND.

2:59:47>> ANY DISCUSSION?

2:59:50SEEING NONE.

2:59:51MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE.

2:59:53>> CALL.

2:59:53THE ROLL.

2:59:55ONE MOMENT PLEASE.

2:59:57SORRY.

2:59:58>> THERE'S A BIT OF A

3:00:12PROCEDURAL COMPONENT AND THAT

3:00:14PROCEDURAL COMPONENT STEMS FROM

3:00:16WHAT?

3:00:17231 DASH 26 IS JUST PULLED BY

3:00:20COUNCIL MEMBER LONG.

3:00:21>> THAT.

3:00:21IMPACTS THE E AND F UM.

3:00:28IS THAT THE UH THE ONE WITH THE

3:00:30HAD THE BID PROTEST?

3:00:31IS THAT THE ONE.

3:00:32>> THAT'S CORRECT.

3:00:33OKAY SO THAT D E AND F.

3:00:36D E AND F YES.

3:00:38>> ALL RIGHT SO WOULD THE

3:00:39MOTION MAKER BE UH OKAY IF WE

3:00:41REMOVE ITEMS D, E AND F SINCE

3:00:44ITEM C WILL IMPACT THEM?

3:00:47YES THAT'S CORRECT THEY'RE

3:00:48CORRESPONDING SO.

3:00:49WE COULD.

3:00:50PULL THEM ALL AND THEN.

3:00:51THEORETICALLY APPROVAL

3:00:53AFTERWARDS.

3:00:53YES SIR.

3:00:54YEP.

3:00:54>> SO TO MAKE IT A.

3:00:55AMEND MY MOTION THEN TO INCLUDE

3:00:58THAT AND THEN APPROVE THE

3:01:00REMAINDER.

3:01:00YEP I AM AND TALKING TO ME.

3:01:02>> ALL.

3:01:02RIGHT AND THE SECOND AGREE IT

3:01:04WAS THE SECOND I'M.

3:01:04I THOUGHT LONG.

3:01:05>> WAS IT.

3:01:06NO WE GOT CONFUSED HE WAS

3:01:07TALKING ABOUT WHAT I PULLED

3:01:08ABOUT IT AND MAKE A MOTION TO

3:01:09APPROVE CONSENT WITH THE

3:01:10AGENDA.

3:01:11SO I'M NOT SURE.

3:01:11WHO WAS THE SECOND TO THE TO

3:01:14THE MOTION MADAM CITY CLERK.

3:01:15THAT IT WAS I.

3:01:17APOLOGIZE I WAS FOCUSING ON

3:01:19ITEM C I DID NOT CATCH THE

3:01:20SECOND.

3:01:21ALL RIGHT WELL LET'S GET A

3:01:22SECOND.

3:01:22SECOND.

3:01:23>> ALL RIGHT.

3:01:23>> WE HAVE A SECOND NOW.

3:01:24ALL RIGHT, MADAM CITY CLERK.

3:01:26I'M CONFUSED.

3:01:28COUNCILMEMBER LONG DIDN'T YOU

3:01:29PULL TWO 3126.

3:01:30YES SIR I DID.

3:01:31AND SO THE ISSUE IS THAT THE

3:01:33THE HOW WE ACT ON THAT MATTER,

3:01:36UH.

3:01:36DIRECTLY REFLECTS WHETHER OR

3:01:38NOT WE CAN APPROVE THE

3:01:40SUCCESSIVE LETTERS.

3:01:40SO IT'S A PACKAGE.

3:01:41DEAL AND SO.

3:01:42SO WOULDN'T THOSE BE ONE THAT

3:01:43WOULD.

3:01:44BE PULLED.

3:01:45>> AS WELL?

3:01:45YES SIR.

3:01:46>> SO THOSE ARE ALL PULLED BY

3:01:47LONG THEN.

3:01:48YES OKAY.

3:01:50ALL RIGHT.

3:01:51YOU'RE GOOD.

3:01:52I'M GOOD.

3:01:53MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL

3:01:55THE ROLL.

3:01:55COULD DUKE.

3:01:56I KILL RAIN?

3:01:57ALL RIGHT, LAST STRAW.

3:01:58ALL RIGHT, LEHMAN ALL RIGHT.

3:02:00UH, STANKY.

3:02:02ALL RIGHT NOW, GUNTER.

3:02:04UH, EIGHT EYES MOTION CARRIED.

3:02:07OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO

3:02:08RESOLUTION 231 DASH 26 AND, UH

3:02:11,COUNCIL MEMBER LONG YOU

3:02:12PULLED THAT SO I'LL GIVE YOU

3:02:14THE FLOOR, SIR.

3:02:15YEAH.

3:02:15>> SORRY FOR.

3:02:16>> ALL THE TROUBLE.

3:02:16I WAS ACTUALLY JUST PULLING IT

3:02:17FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UH,

3:02:18ACKNOWLEDGING THE, UH, CITY

3:02:19ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THIS ONE.

3:02:20IF YOU GUYS RECALL, UH, MEETING

3:02:22OR TWO AGO, I HAD A LITTLE BIT

3:02:23OF DISCOMFORT WITH HOW WE WERE

3:02:24HANDLING THE BID PROTESTING

3:02:25THAT ALTHOUGH WE WERE IN THE

3:02:26RIGHT, I WAS JUST TRYING TO

3:02:27CLEAR UP SOME ADMINISTRATIVE

3:02:28STUFF AND EXPRESSED, UM, MY

3:02:30CONCERNS AND HE WENT AND

3:02:32FOLLOWED THROUGH AND UM AND

3:02:33BROUGHT THAT TO UH FULL CIRCLE

3:02:35AND NOW HERE WE ARE TODAY.

3:02:36UM SO I JUST WANTED TO APPLAUD

3:02:37HIM AND THANK HIM FOR THAT AND

3:02:39THAT WAS IT.

3:02:40I'D BE HAPPY TO APPROVE IT AND

3:02:41UH, ALL THE SUCCESS OF MOTION.

3:02:43THAT ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A

3:02:45MOTION AND SECOND FOR

3:02:46RESOLUTION 231 DASH 26.

3:02:49ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

3:02:50WELL, IT WOULD BE MISTER CITY

3:02:52ATTORNEY DO WE NEED TO MOVE.

3:02:53>> TO.

3:02:54APPROVE THEM ALL OR WHAT DO WE

3:02:54HAVE TO GO INDIVIDUALLY

3:02:55SEPARATE?

3:02:55I WOULD I WOULD APPROVE THEM

3:02:57ALL BECAUSE.

3:02:57>> THEY'RE.

3:02:58ALL AND SOME.

3:02:58INEXTRICABLY INTERTWINED.

3:02:59SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE

3:03:01MOTION BE MADE APPROVING

3:03:03RESOLUTION 231 DASH 26 251 DASH

3:03:0726 252 DASH 26 AND 253 DASH 26

3:03:11.

3:03:11A MOTION MAKER UH SO MOVED.

3:03:15SECOND AGREES.

3:03:16ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

3:03:18MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL

3:03:19THE ROLL.

3:03:21COULD DO.

3:03:22>> I KILL RAIN?

3:03:23ALL RIGHT.

3:03:24>> LAST STRAW.

3:03:25>> HI, LEHMAN.

3:03:26UH, HI, STINKY.

3:03:28UH, DANIELLE.

3:03:30ALL RIGHT.

3:03:30COUNTER ALL RIGHT.

3:03:32818 MOTION CARRIED.

3:03:34OKAY, MOVE ON TO ITEM J

3:03:36RESOLUTION 257 DASH 26

3:03:39COUNCILMEMBER KUNDU I BELIEVE

3:03:40YOU PULLED THIS ONE.

3:03:41THANK YOU.

3:03:42>> MAYOR, I REALLY WANT TO KNOW

3:03:44I KNOW THE BACKUP MATERIAL DOES

3:03:46SAY THAT THIS IS PROJECT CN ONE

3:03:49EAST DASH (631) 656-3109 AND

3:03:53THE AVAILABLE FUNDS ARE 82.1

3:03:55MILLION.

3:03:56I WANT TO KNOW WHAT BUDGET THIS

3:03:57IS FUNDED FROM AND HOW IS THERE

3:03:59NO BUDGET AMENDMENT REQUIRED?

3:04:05RESOLUTION 257 DASH 26 J.

3:04:10CRYSTAL FEAST FINANCIAL

3:04:12SERVICES DIRECTOR UM THIS

3:04:13BUDGET WAS IN A PREVIOUS FISCAL

3:04:15YEAR.

3:04:16IT WAS PART OF THE NORTH ONE

3:04:17EAST UP PROJECT THE NON

3:04:18ASSESSED PORTION UM AND AND IT

3:04:21WAS ALSO DEBT FUNDED IN THAT

3:04:23BUDGET MAY OF THIS YEAR WE

3:04:26ISSUE THE 2026 WATER AND SEWER

3:04:28BONDS.

3:04:29THIS PROJECT WAS ONE OF THE

3:04:30FOUR THAT WERE LISTED AS BEING

3:04:31FUNDED THROUGH THAT DEBT RIGHT

3:04:33.

3:04:33WHAT BUDGET WAS IT FUNDED IN?

3:04:36UM FISCAL YEAR 24 OKAY.

3:04:39AND UM THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO

3:04:41WITH YOU.

3:04:41THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION

3:04:43.

3:04:43NORTH ONE EAST BOOSTER STATION

3:04:45WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE

3:04:46NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE YELLOW

3:04:48FEVER CREEK PRESERVE.

3:04:50AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE

3:04:52PRESERVE WE ARE CUTTING AWAY A

3:04:54PRESERVE.

3:04:55THAT'S ALL.

3:04:55THANK YOU.

3:04:58OKAY.

3:04:59>> SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON?

3:05:00I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR

3:05:01RESOLUTION 257 DASH 22.

3:05:03APPROVED.

3:05:05SECOND.

3:05:07ANY OTHER DISCUSSION SEEING

3:05:09NONE.

3:05:09MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL

3:05:10THE ROLL.

3:05:12COULD DO NO KILL RAIN.

3:05:14ALL RIGHT.

3:05:15LAUGHTER ALL RIGHT, LEHMAN.

3:05:17.

3:05:18>> ALL RIGHT.

3:05:18LONG.

3:05:19>> HI, STINKY.

3:05:20UH FOR NOW.

3:05:22UH, GUNTER.

3:05:23UH.

3:05:24NICE ONE.

3:05:25NAY.

3:05:25MOTION CARRIED.

3:05:26OKAY.

3:05:27>> MOVING ON A RESOLUTION 266

3:05:28DASH 26 COUNCIL MEMBER LEHMAN I

3:05:31BELIEVE YOU, UH, PULLED THIS.

3:05:32I'LL GIVE YOU THE FLOOR, MA'AM.

3:05:34YEAH, UH, I PULLED THIS BECAUSE

3:05:39I'M QUESTIONING WHY WE ARE

3:05:42RESURFACING ALLEYWAYS WHEN WE

3:05:44HAVE A LOT OF OTHER

3:05:46INFRASTRUCTURE AND A LOT OF

3:05:47OTHER ROADS NEED TO BE TAKEN

3:05:49CARE OF.

3:05:50UH, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT

3:05:54THIS IS MONEY WE DON'T NEED TO

3:05:55BE.

3:05:56SPENDING RIGHT NOW.

3:05:59WE'RE TRYING.

3:06:01>> TO KEEP THE BUDGET DOWN.

3:06:02I MEAN.

3:06:04I DON'T SEE THE LOGIC IN THIS

3:06:06ONE.

3:06:07MISTER CITY MANAGER, WOULD YOU.

3:06:10PLEASE.

3:06:11>> ABSOLUTELY.

3:06:12>> INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE

3:06:14IS THE SECOND HIGHEST PRIORITY

3:06:16IN THE CITY NEXT.

3:06:17TO.

3:06:17>> UH, ONLY BEHIND PUBLIC

3:06:20SAFETY.

3:06:20AND.

3:06:21>> UM, IF.

3:06:22>> YOU'VE.

3:06:22BEEN AND LIVED OR TRAVELED

3:06:23THROUGH A CITY THAT HAS ROADS

3:06:24WITH POTHOLES OR OR BAD ROADS

3:06:27IT'S IT'S NOT FUN AND CAUSES

3:06:29COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS.

3:06:30SO EACH YEAR AS PART OF THE

3:06:32BUDGET PROCESS YOU ALL ALLOCATE

3:06:33FUNDING UH TO ROAD RESURFACING.

3:06:37THOSE FUNDS ARE BROKEN DOWN

3:06:39INTO THREE BUCKETS.

3:06:40ONE OF THEM IS MAJOR ROADWAYS,

3:06:42ONE OF THEM IS LOCAL ROADWAYS

3:06:44AND THE OTHER ONE ARE ALLEYS

3:06:46SUCH AS THIS.

3:06:47AND THIS IS JUST PART OF A

3:06:49ROUTINE MAINTENANCE EXPENDITURE

3:06:50IN THE CITY.

3:06:53BUT WHY CAN'T THIS BE PUT OFF?

3:06:57UH.

3:06:58,FOR DOWN THE ROAD?

3:06:59LET'S DEAL WITH THE UP FIRST

3:07:02LET'S DEAL WITH OTHER THINGS

3:07:04FIRST BEFORE WE RESURFACE

3:07:06ALLEYWAYS.

3:07:07I CAN UNDERSTAND MAJOR ROADS OR

3:07:11SIDE ROADS THAT PEOPLE ARE

3:07:13DRIVING ON AND WHATNOT AND I

3:07:14UNDERSTAND THEY DRIVE ON

3:07:17ALLEYWAYS BUT THEY'RE NOT USED

3:07:18AS MUCH AS A REGULAR ROAD.

3:07:20IN SOME CASES THE ALLEYWAYS ARE

3:07:22THE FRONT DOORSTEPS TO

3:07:24BUSINESSES.

3:07:25SO IF YOU IF YOU.

3:07:26>> WERE TO.

3:07:27IF YOU.

3:07:28>> IN SOME CASES THE ALLEYWAY

3:07:30IS THE FRONT DOOR TO.

3:07:33BUSINESS SO IT SERVES AS THE

3:07:35LOCAL ROAD OR THE THE COMMERCE

3:07:37ROAD.

3:07:38.

3:07:39>> OKAY TAKE.

3:07:39FOR EXAMPLE UH CAPE CORAL

3:07:42PARKWAY 47TH THERE'S NO PARKING

3:07:45IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESSES AND

3:07:47MOST PEOPLE PARK BEHIND THEM

3:07:49AND WALK ACROSS THE ALLEY OR

3:07:51UTILIZE THE ALLEY TO GET TO.

3:07:53>> THOSE BUSINESSES.

3:07:54OH OKAY.

3:07:56ALL RIGHT.

3:07:57THANK YOU.

3:07:59OKAY.

3:07:59>> SEE ANOTHER LIGHTS ON I

3:08:01ENTERTAIN A MOTION REGARDING

3:08:02RESOLUTION 266 DASH 26.

3:08:04MOTION TO APPROVE.

3:08:05SECOND.

3:08:08ANY OTHER DISCUSSION SEEING

3:08:10NONE.

3:08:10MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL

3:08:12THE ROLL.

3:08:12.

3:08:13CADILLAC I KILL RAIN.

3:08:14ALL RIGHT, LAST ROW.

3:08:15ALL RIGHT.

3:08:16LEHMAN, LONG TIME STINKY.

3:08:20ALL RIGHT NOW.

3:08:21ALL RIGHT.

3:08:22COUNTER UH EIGHT EYES MOTION

3:08:24CARRIED.

3:08:25OKAY, MOVE ON TO ITEM 11.

3:08:28APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND

3:08:29COMMITTEES.

3:08:29UH, THERE'S NONE LISTED.

3:08:30ITEM 12 IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS

3:08:3212 A IS FOLLOW UP ITEMS FOR

3:08:34COUNCIL NON-LISTED UH ITEM 12 B

3:08:37AS FOLLOW UP ITEMS FOR CITY

3:08:39MANAGEMENT AND UNLISTED ITEM 13

3:08:41IS ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS

3:08:43UH 13 A IS PUBLIC HEARING QUASI

3:08:45JUDICIAL HEARINGS WE DO NOT

3:08:47HAVE ANY UH QUASI JUDICIAL

3:08:50HEARINGS.

3:08:50UH TONIGHT 13 B IS LEGISLATIVE

3:08:53PUBLIC HEARINGS UH FIRST OF

3:08:56WHICH IS ORDINANCE 53 DASH 26

3:08:59MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE READ

3:09:00TITLE.

3:09:01ORDINANCE 53 DASH 26 AN

3:09:03ORDINANCE OF THE MAYOR AND CITY

3:09:05COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CAPE

3:09:06CORAL, FLORIDA APPROVING AND

3:09:08GRANTING TO LEE COUNTY ELECTRIC

3:09:10COOPERATIVE INC., A FLORIDA NOT

3:09:12FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION AND

3:09:14EASEMENT FOR A RIGHT OF WAY TO

3:09:15BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION,

3:09:17OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF

3:09:19ONE OR MORE OVERHEAD AND

3:09:21UNDERGROUND ELECTRIC

3:09:22DISTRIBUTION OR TRANSMISSION

3:09:23LINES OVER, UNDER, IN, ON, UPON

3:09:26AND ACROSS CERTAIN REAL

3:09:28PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY AS

3:09:30MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED

3:09:31HEREIN AND AUTHORIZING AND

3:09:33DIRECTING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE

3:09:35THE EASEMENT PROVIDING

3:09:36SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE

3:09:38DATE.

3:09:39MISS ANDERS.

3:09:41GOOD EVENING.

3:09:41MAYOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DON

3:09:43ANDREWS REAL ESTATE DIVISION

3:09:45WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS

3:09:46DEPARTMENT ORDINANCE 53 DASH

3:09:5026, IF ADOPTED WILL.

3:09:51GRANT AN EASEMENT TO LEE COUNTY

3:09:53ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE ACROSS

3:09:55PROPERTIES AT THE CITY OF CAPE

3:09:57CORAL OWNS IN A TRACT CALLED

3:10:00TRACT OR DASH TO LIBERTY HEALTH

3:10:02PARK SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT THE

3:10:05NORTHEAST CORNER OF PINE ISLAND

3:10:07ROAD AND NORTHEAST 24TH AVENUE.

3:10:09THIS TRACT OF LAND WAS

3:10:12DEDICATED IN THE SUBDIVISION

3:10:14PLAT FOR LIBERTY HEALTH PARK AS

3:10:16A FUTURE RELOCATION FOR LC EX

3:10:19ELECTRIC FACILITIES THAT ARE

3:10:20CURRENTLY LOCATED IN THE FUTURE

3:10:22RIGHT OF WAY OF NORTHEAST 24TH

3:10:24AVENUE.

3:10:25I'LL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS.

3:10:27OKAY.

3:10:28>> THANK YOU.

3:10:29I NOW HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

3:10:30ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON

3:10:31ORDINANCE 53 DASH 26 PLEASE

3:10:34COME FORWARD.

3:10:37SEEING NONE PUBLIC HEARING IS

3:10:39NOW CLOSED.

3:10:40IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING

3:10:42ORDINANCE 53 DASH 26 A.

3:10:43MOTION TO APPROVE.

3:10:44SECOND.

3:10:45>> IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL

3:10:47DISCUSSION SEEING NONE.

3:10:50MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL

3:10:51THE ROLL.

3:10:52COULD DUKE.

3:10:53I KILL RAIN?

3:10:54ALL RIGHT.

3:10:55LAST STRAW.

3:10:56HI, LEHMAN.

3:10:58LONG.

3:10:58>> UH, STINKY.

3:11:00UH, NOW.

3:11:01UH.

3:11:01GUNTER.

3:11:02UH EIGHT EYES MOTION CARRIED.

3:11:04THANK YOU.

3:11:05>> OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO

3:11:06ORDINANCE 55 DASH 26.

3:11:08MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE READ

3:11:09TITLE SET THE PUBLIC SECOND AND

3:11:11FINAL PUBLIC HEARING DATE.

3:11:14ORDINANCE 55 DASH 26 AN

3:11:16ORDINANCE OF THE MAYOR AND CITY

3:11:18COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CAPE

3:11:19CORAL, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING AND

3:11:21APPROVING THE DECLARATION OF

3:11:22CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY AS MORE

3:11:24PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN

3:11:25AS SURPLUS PROPERTY AND

3:11:27APPROVING THE DEVELOPMENT

3:11:29AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE

3:11:30CITY OF CAPE CORAL OF FLORIDA

3:11:32MUNICIPAL CORPORATION, CROWN

3:11:34DEVELOPMENT INC. AND NORTH

3:11:35DAKOTA PROFIT CORPORATION AND

3:11:37BIMINI BASIN REDEVELOPMENT

3:11:39COMPANY LLC, A FLORIDA LIMITED

3:11:41LIABILITY COMPANY FOR A MIXED

3:11:43USE PROJECT KNOWN AS BIMINI

3:11:45EAST GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF

3:11:48CAPE CORAL PARKWAY.

3:11:48EAST EAST OF THE CANAL, WEST OF

3:11:52CORONADO PARKWAY AND NORTH OF

3:11:54VICTORIA DRIVE AND AUTHORIZING

3:11:56THE CITY MANAGER OR THEIR

3:11:57DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE THE

3:11:59DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, PURCHASE

3:12:01AND SALE AGREEMENT AND ANY

3:12:02OTHER RELATED DOCUMENTS SET

3:12:04FORTH WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT

3:12:05AGREEMENT PROVIDING FOR

3:12:07SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE

3:12:08DATE.

3:12:08THE SECOND AND FINAL PUBLIC

3:12:10HEARING WILL BE OCTOBER 21ST

3:12:132026.

3:12:14THANK YOU.

3:12:14>> I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF.

3:12:17GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

3:12:19MEMBERS MARK MASON ASSISTANT

3:12:20CITY MANAGER UH, TONIGHT UH, IS

3:12:23THE FIRST OF TWO REQUIRED.

3:12:24PUBLIC HEARINGS.

3:12:26UH, ON ORDINANCE 55 DASH 26 AND

3:12:29THE SECOND ONE AS THE CITY

3:12:30CLERK IDENTIFIED WAS IS OCTOBER

3:12:3221ST, 2026.

3:12:35THIS ORDINANCE WILL.

3:12:36COVER.

3:12:37>> UH, SOME LINKED AGREEMENTS.

3:12:39UH, THERE'S A SET OF AGREEMENTS

3:12:40.

3:12:40THERE'S THREE OF THEM.

3:12:41UH, WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER'S

3:12:43AGREEMENT.

3:12:43WE ALSO HAVE A PURCHASE AND

3:12:44SALE AGREEMENT AS WELL AS A

3:12:46LEASE AGREEMENT.

3:12:47THE REMAINDER OF THE

3:12:49ATTACHMENTS UH, ARE AND SOME OF

3:12:51THEM.

3:12:52>> WILL BE.

3:12:52COMPLETED AT A LATER DATE.

3:12:54UH, THERE RIGHT NOW THERE ARE

3:12:55FORMS OF OF DOCUMENTS BUT

3:12:57THEY'RE NOT AGREEMENTS AS SET

3:12:59FORTH TODAY WE DO HAVE A

3:13:01FURTHER AGREEMENT WHEN THE UH

3:13:04POLICE SUBSTATION IS BUILT

3:13:05WHERE WE WILL ENTER INTO A

3:13:07LEASE AGREEMENT AT THAT TIME

3:13:08BUT WE HAVEN'T NEGOTIATED

3:13:10WHATEVER THAT IS AND IT HASN'T

3:13:11BEEN BUILT YET.

3:13:14THE TERMS PRESENTED TONIGHT, UH

3:13:16,ARE THE.

3:13:17UH ARE.

3:13:20WHAT WE HAVE NEGOTIATED UH WITH

3:13:23UH BIMINI UM AND AND UH CROWN

3:13:26DEVELOPMENT UH WHO WILL BE THE

3:13:28DEVELOPER FOR THE PROPERTY?

3:13:29UH AND THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT

3:13:31IS TO EXPLAIN THOSE BUSINESS

3:13:33TERMS AS WELL AS UH AND UH AND

3:13:37THE PRESENTATION THAT, YOU KNOW

3:13:38,AT THIS POINT WILL RECOMMEND

3:13:40APPROVAL FOR THE DEVELOPER'S

3:13:43AGREEMENT.

3:13:45SO THE PROJECT SITE UH, WE HAVE

3:13:48THE CITY OWNED PARCELS WE'VE

3:13:49TALKED ABOUT THE CITY OWNED

3:13:50PARCELS UH, IN THE THE ITEMS IN

3:13:54BLUE WERE PURCHASED BY THE CITY

3:13:56UH, THE ONE ON THE FURTHER EAST

3:13:57SIDE.

3:14:01IS SOMETHING NOT WORKING FROM

3:14:02HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE UP THERE.

3:14:05YEAH.

3:14:06>> WHAT IS IT?

3:14:07>> IT'S IT'S.

3:14:08>> JUST IF IT'S ON MY.

3:14:09SCREEN IT MUST BE ON THERE TOO

3:14:10.

3:14:10IS IT?

3:14:11>> YOU GOT IT.

3:14:12YOU GOT THE LINES.

3:14:16YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THEM.

3:14:17THEY'RE THERE BUT YOU CAN'T SEE

3:14:18THEM BECAUSE.

3:14:19THE HOW.

3:14:19>> BIG THE SCREEN IS.

3:14:20MINE LOOKS FINE.

3:14:22IT'S OKAY.

3:14:23THAT LOOKS FINE.

3:14:26BUT WE HAVE IT BEHIND US IS

3:14:28THE.

3:14:28>> FILE.

3:14:29SO IT'S RIGHT AROUND.

3:14:39THERE YOU GO.

3:14:39THAT'S GOOD.

3:14:40>> YOU ARE.

3:14:41>> MAN.

3:14:41IN THE BACK.

3:14:42GOOD JOB.

3:14:44WHEN IN DOUBT, UNPLUG AND PLUG.

3:14:45BACK IN.

3:14:46>> SO WE APPRECIATE IT.

3:14:50SO ON.

3:14:51>> THE LEFT YOU SEE IN THE

3:14:52BLUE.

3:14:52UH ABOUT 20 ACRES OF LAND THAT

3:14:54THE CITY THAT THE CITY HAS

3:14:56PURCHASED UH AND WE HAVE AN

3:14:58INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE

3:14:59CRA TO REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR

3:15:01THOSE FOR THE ACQUISITION OF

3:15:02THAT PROPERTY EITHER THROUGH

3:15:04DEBT, UH.

3:15:05OR OVER THE TERM THAT WE WILL

3:15:07SET AFTER WE HAVE AGREED TO

3:15:09THIS UH, UH DEVELOPER'S

3:15:11AGREEMENT.

3:15:13THE FURTHER UH, PARCEL TO THE

3:15:15LEFT IS FOR FREEDOM'S PARK.

3:15:16UH, THAT WILL BE PART OF A

3:15:19LEASE AGREEMENT.

3:15:19UH, THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED

3:15:20LATER.

3:15:21HOWEVER, THE ENTIRE PROJECT

3:15:23SITE IS OVER ON THE RIGHT HAND

3:15:25SIDE AND THIS IS THE ACTUALLY

3:15:26THE REDEVELOPMENT SITE AND IT'S

3:15:28ENTIRELY IN GREEN AND THE

3:15:30DEVELOPER WILL BE PURCHASING

3:15:32CERTAIN PARCELS ASSOCIATED WITH

3:15:33THAT UH, WITH THE REMAINDER OF

3:15:34THE DEVELOPMENT ESSENTIALLY

3:15:36THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE NOT

3:15:38INCLUDED IN THE BLUE ON THE

3:15:39LEFT SIDE.

3:15:43THE THREE LINK DOCUMENTS THAT

3:15:45WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT

3:15:47AGAIN IS THE DEVELOPER

3:15:48AGREEMENT.

3:15:48UH, THIS WILL INCLUDE THE

3:15:49DEVELOPERS PROGRAM CITY AND

3:15:51DEVELOPERS AGREEMENTS, UH

3:15:53COMMITMENTS, MILESTONES, PUBLIC

3:15:55ACCESS, ONGOING ADMINISTRATION

3:15:56OF THE OF THE DEVELOPMENT

3:15:58AGREEMENT.

3:15:58WE ALSO HAVE THE PURCHASE AND

3:16:00SALE AGREEMENT.

3:16:01THIS WILL COVER.

3:16:01>> THE.

3:16:02CONVEYANCE OF THE CITY PROPERTY

3:16:03AND THE DEPOSIT DEFERRED

3:16:05PAYMENTS, DUE DILIGENCE AND

3:16:07CLOSING REMEDIES ETC. THE KEY

3:16:10WITH THIS ONE IS THAT THE CITY

3:16:11WILL HOLD THE MORTGAGE FOR THE

3:16:12PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY WILL

3:16:14BE PAID FOR AS PURCHASE.

3:16:17I AM SORRY I NOT AS PURCHASE

3:16:19ORDERS BUT AS UH PERMITS ARE

3:16:21REQUESTED FOR UH VERTICAL

3:16:24IMPROVEMENTS.

3:16:24IN ADDITION WE HAVE A GROUND

3:16:26LEASE AGREEMENT AGAIN THIS IS

3:16:28FOR FOR FREEDOM PARK.

3:16:29IT'LL BE A 99 YEAR LEASE VERY

3:16:31SIMILAR TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER

3:16:33LEASE WE HAVE OVER AT LAKE

3:16:34KENNEDY.

3:16:35UH, AND UH IN THE AND THIS WILL

3:16:39BE FOR THE USE OF THE PARK

3:16:40PARCEL WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA.

3:16:46SO THE MIXED USE PROJECT WITH

3:16:48THREE CONTRACTING PROPERTY UH

3:16:50PARTIES.

3:16:50SO WE HAVE THE CITY OF CAPE

3:16:52CORAL WHERE THE LANDOWNER OR

3:16:54THE MUNICIPAL PROVIDER, THE DA

3:16:57DISTINGUISHES THE PROPRIETARY

3:16:58OBLIGATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE

3:17:00REGULATORY AUTHORITY WHICH IS

3:17:01US BIMINI BASIN REDEVELOPMENT

3:17:04COMPANY IS THE PURCHASER AND

3:17:05WILL BE THE PURCHASER OF THE

3:17:07PROPERTY AND AS THE PROJECT

3:17:08OWNER THEY WILL ACQUIRE THE

3:17:11LAND AND UH AND ASSEMBLE THEM

3:17:14AND ASSEMBLE ANY OF THE

3:17:15ADDITIONAL PARCELS AS FAR AS

3:17:18CROWN DEVELOPMENT THEY ARE

3:17:19ENGAGED BY BIMINI.

3:17:20CAN I GO ON?

3:17:22YES OKAY.

3:17:22THANK YOU.

3:17:23THEY ARE ENGAGED BY BIMINI.

3:17:25UH, REDEVELOPMENT UH COMPANY

3:17:29AND THEY WILL BE COLLECTIVELY

3:17:30HERE AND CALLED THE DEVELOPERS

3:17:32FOR ANY OTHER ANY ADDITIONAL

3:17:34UH, TIME THAT I TALK ABOUT

3:17:35THEM.

3:17:36SO THIS APPROXIMATELY 34 ACRE

3:17:39PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY $500

3:17:41MILLION IN ESTIMATED INVESTMENT

3:17:42AND VALUATION OVER THE TERM OF

3:17:45THE DEVELOPMENT.

3:17:47SO THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT

3:17:49PROGRAM INCLUDED IS

3:17:52RESIDENTIAL.

3:17:52WE HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 900 UNITS

3:17:54INCLUDED IN THE DA.

3:17:57THERE'S MULTIPLE RESIDENTIAL

3:17:59FORMS UH, THAT WILL BE IN UH

3:18:02INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT

3:18:02WILL HAVE UH.

3:18:06I DO BELIEVE THERE'S TOWNHOMES,

3:18:08THERE'S APARTMENTS, THERE'S UH

3:18:11YEAH, TOWNHOMES AND APARTMENTS

3:18:13UH, WITHIN THE BIMINI BMX BEE

3:18:17DISTRICT ZONING DISTRICT UH, WE

3:18:18HAVE APPROXIMATELY 2500

3:18:22AVAILABLE UH, ON IF THEY WERE

3:18:24TO DEVELOP FULLY DEVELOP UH AT

3:18:27125 PER ACRE WHICH IS INCLUDED

3:18:29IN THE MIX BE HOTEL AND MEDICAL

3:18:33THEY WILL HAVE APPROXIMATELY

3:18:35250 KEY HOTEL ROOMS, UH 150 TO

3:18:38A 200,000FT2 OF MEDICAL UH THIS

3:18:41IS SUBJECT TO THE CONCEPT PLAN

3:18:43AND THE.

3:18:43APPLICABLE APPROVALS ON THE

3:18:46COMMERCIAL SIDE WILL HAVE.

3:18:47>> A.

3:18:47MINIMUM 120,000FT2.

3:18:49THIS WILL INCLUDE OUR POLICE

3:18:52SUBSTATION WHICH IS

3:18:53APPROXIMATELY 4000FT2 AS

3:18:55REQUESTED BY THE POLICE

3:18:56DEPARTMENT.

3:18:57AND THE MARINA WILL HAVE 50

3:18:59BOAT SLIPS.

3:19:00THIS UH THIS AS FAR AS THE

3:19:03AGREEMENT IS CONCERNED, THIS

3:19:04WILL REQUIRE US TO HAVE A SLIP

3:19:05TRANSFER OF APPROXIMATELY 20 TO

3:19:0825 UNITS.

3:19:09PERMITS APPROVALS, CITY SLIP

3:19:12GUARDIANS WILL BE REQUIRED.

3:19:13UH, AND WE WILL WORK HAND IN

3:19:16HAND WITH, UH, THE DEVELOPER UH

3:19:18WITH THE UH SOUTH FLORIDA WATER

3:19:20MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, UH, IN

3:19:22SECURING THE UH THE ABILITY TO

3:19:24UTILIZE THAT AREA FOR THE BOAT

3:19:25SLIPS, PARKING AND AMENITIES AT

3:19:28THIS POINT THERE'S

3:19:29APPROXIMATELY 2000 GARAGE

3:19:31SPACES, UH, BANDSHELL AND

3:19:33PUBLIC OPEN SPACE AMENITY AREAS

3:19:34.

3:19:35UH, BASED UPON THE CURRENT

3:19:37DEVELOPMENT AND THE DESIGN,

3:19:38IT'S UP TO FOUR PARKING

3:19:39GARAGES.

3:19:40PUBLIC USE REQUIREMENTS WILL

3:19:42APPLY.

3:19:46SO THE CITY LAND IS CONVEYED AT

3:19:49CLOSING AND PAID OVERTIME.

3:19:50IT'S $24.3 MILLION PURCHASE

3:19:54PRICE UH IS FOR THE CITY

3:19:56PROPERTY.

3:19:56THIS IS UH THE VALUE OF THE

3:19:58PROPERTY AS UH AS WAS APPRAISED

3:20:02AND AGREED UPON THROUGH THE

3:20:05DEVELOPMENT WITH UH, AGREEMENT

3:20:06WITH THE DEVELOPER.

3:20:08SO AS I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE

3:20:09EARLIER, UH, YOU KNOW, THE HOW

3:20:11WILL THIS WILL END TO BE PAID

3:20:13DOWN?

3:20:13IT'LL BE PAID DOWN ON A PHASED

3:20:15APPROACH FOR EACH TIME THAT

3:20:17THEY COME IN TO PULL A PERMIT

3:20:19OR THERE ARE SOME OTHER, UH,

3:20:22TIMES WHEN THEY MAY UH IF THEY

3:20:24TURN AROUND AND SELL A PIECE OF

3:20:25PROPERTY TO SOMEBODY ELSE, IT

3:20:26WILL TRIGGER THE PAYMENT OF THE

3:20:28UH FOR THE COST OF THE LAND ON

3:20:31A PRORATED BASIS ON SQUARE FOOT

3:20:33BASIS.

3:20:34UH, THE PHASED APPROACH THE END

3:20:37OF THE PERIOD TEN YEARS, UH, IF

3:20:40NOT ALL PROPERTIES ARE PAID FOR

3:20:41AT THE END OF TEN YEARS THEY'LL

3:20:43BE REQUIRED TO REMIT FOR THE

3:20:45REMAINDER OF THE AMOUNT UH,

3:20:47THAT IS DUE AT THE END OF TEN

3:20:48YEARS.

3:20:50RECORDED UH, SECURITY BIMINI

3:20:53WILL SIGN PROMISSORY NOTE AND

3:20:54MORTGAGE AT CLOSING UH FOR THE

3:20:56PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENT.

3:20:57THE NOTE IS A NON-RECOURSE NOTE

3:20:59UH FORECLOSURE OF UNRELEASED UH

3:21:02UNRELEASED LAND IF THEY DO NOT

3:21:04FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE

3:21:05DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT OF COURSE

3:21:06IF ANY OF THAT HAPPENS

3:21:07DEVELOPER AGREEMENT YOU KNOW

3:21:09WOULD LIKELY END IF UH, ANY OF

3:21:11THOSE THINGS OCCURRED.

3:21:13ADDITIONAL PARCELS AS I POINTED

3:21:15OUT EARLIER, THE ONES THAT ARE

3:21:16NOT COLORED THAT WERE NOT

3:21:18COLORED IN BLUE, UH, DEVELOPER

3:21:20WILL SECURE THE OWNERSHIP OF

3:21:21THE BINDING CONTROL OF THOSE

3:21:22FOR IDENTIFIED PARCELS AS FAR

3:21:26AS THE PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENT

3:21:27IS CONCERNED, THIS WOULD BE A

3:21:29$1 MILLION SECURITY DEPOSIT.

3:21:31UH, AND THAT SECURITY DEPOSIT

3:21:32WILL THEN BE APPLIED TO THE

3:21:33FIRST PHASE PAYMENT UH,

3:21:36ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUY DOWN OR

3:21:38THE PHASE DRAWDOWN ON THE

3:21:40BALLOON MORTGAGE 250,000 WILL

3:21:43WE DO TWO DAYS AFTER CLOSING

3:21:47750,000 WILL BE DO FIVE DAYS

3:21:48AFTER THE DATE.

3:21:49PARAGRAPH 6.7 CLOSING

3:21:51CONDITIONS ARE SATISFIED AND

3:21:52THOSE CLOSING CONDITIONS THAT

3:21:53ARE INCLUDED IN 6.7 HAVE TO DO

3:21:56WITH THE BOAT SLIPS AND THEIR

3:21:58ABILITY TO BUILD A MARINA.

3:22:05UH.

3:22:06>> SO TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND HOW

3:22:09THE TRIGGER UH THE THE TRIGGER

3:22:11WILL OCCUR WHEN THE PHASED UH

3:22:14PAYMENTS WILL BE MADE IS WHEN

3:22:16VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION WILL

3:22:18OCCUR.

3:22:18SO THE RELEASE PAYMENT THAT'S

3:22:20THE PAYMENT FROM THE DEVELOPER

3:22:21TO US, UH, TO THE CITY WILL YOU

3:22:24KNOW, IT WILL BE THE DEFERRED

3:22:26PRICE WHATEVER THE DEFERRED

3:22:27PRICE WILL BE TIMES THE PARCEL

3:22:29SHARE.

3:22:29SO ON THE PARCEL SHARE YOU TAKE

3:22:30THE TOTAL UH ACREAGE BECOMES A

3:22:33UH A PRORATED SHARE ASSOCIATED

3:22:35WITH THE TOTAL ACREAGE.

3:22:36SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE

3:22:37BUILDING ON FIVE ACRES OF

3:22:39PROPERTY AND OUT OF THE 20

3:22:40ACRES THAT WOULD BE 25%, UH,

3:22:44ASSOCIATED WITH THE WITH THE

3:22:45PAYMENT IF IT'S ONE ACRE IT'LL

3:22:47BE SOME UH A PERCENTAGE.

3:22:48LESS THAN THAT.

3:22:50SO THE CONSTRUCTION TRIGGER

3:22:51THEY PAY WHEN THE VERTICAL

3:22:52STRUCTURE UH CONSTRUCTION AND

3:22:54BEFORE THE ISSUANCE OF A

3:22:55BUILDING PERMIT.

3:22:56UH, SO WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THE

3:22:58PERMITTING PROCESS, THEY'RE IN

3:22:59THE PROCESS TO GET THE PERMIT

3:23:00AND BEFORE THE PERMIT IS ISSUED

3:23:02BEFORE THE CITY WILL ISSUE THE

3:23:04PERMIT, THE PAYMENT MUST BE

3:23:05MADE.

3:23:06THERE IS ALSO IF OTHER EVENTS

3:23:10OCCUR THERE'S ALSO A TRANSFER A

3:23:12TRIGGER OF PAYMENT AND THAT

3:23:14WILL BE IF THEY TURN AROUND AND

3:23:15THEY SELL A PORTION OF THAT 20

3:23:18ACRE SITE THE LAND THAT WE OWN

3:23:20FOR UH OR FOR THE PURPOSES OF

3:23:23SOMEBODY ELSE TO SAY THEY SELL

3:23:25A PIECE FOR BUILDING A HOTEL

3:23:27THAT WILL ALSO, UH, TRIGGER THE

3:23:29TRANSFER OF FUNDS UH, BASED

3:23:32UPON THE DEFERRED PRICE AT THE

3:23:34PARCEL SHARE.

3:23:36IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, UH,

3:23:39CONVEYANCE OF PROPERTY THAT

3:23:39WILL ALSO OCCUR AND IF THEY DO

3:23:42A LEASE OF LAND FOR LONGER THAN

3:23:44FIVE YEARS, THAT WILL ALSO

3:23:45TRIGGER THE PAYMENT OF THE

3:23:48PROPERTY.

3:23:49SO THE PAYMENT WILL BE DUE AND

3:23:50WITHIN TEN DAYS OF CLOSING IF

3:23:52THERE IS CLOSING ASSOCIATED

3:23:54WITH THE SALE OR PROPERTY.

3:24:00SO THE CRA FUNDS WILL FUND TWO

3:24:04ADDITIONAL ACQUISITIONS.

3:24:06SO AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPER'S

3:24:08AGREEMENT THERE IS TWO PARCELS

3:24:10THAT ARE INCLUDED UH THAT THE

3:24:12DEVELOPER WILL BE PURCHASING

3:24:14PREVIOUSLY AT THE JULY WORKSHOP

3:24:17WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE CITY

3:24:18POTENTIALLY PURCHASING THESE

3:24:19PROPERTIES AS WE WENT BACK AND

3:24:21WE STARTED TO DEVELOP THE

3:24:23AGREEMENT, WE DISCUSSED IT WITH

3:24:24THE DEVELOPER AND WE AGREED

3:24:26THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR

3:24:27CIRCUMSTANCE, UH, THEY THE

3:24:29DEVELOPER WOULD PURCHASE THE

3:24:31THE PROPERTY THE CITY WOULD

3:24:32CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE PURCHASE

3:24:34OF THOSE PROPERTIES BECAUSE

3:24:36WE'RE NOT PURCHASING THE

3:24:37PROPERTIES.

3:24:38THERE'S NO APPRAISAL REQUIRED

3:24:40ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

3:24:40UH, THE DEVELOPER IS PURCHASING

3:24:42THE PROPERTY.

3:24:43WE AGREED AS PART OF THIS DE TO

3:24:46CONTRIBUTE $5.5 MILLION TOWARDS

3:24:48THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY

3:24:50FOR TRUMBULL APARTMENTS PARCEL

3:24:52AS WELL AS $5.5 MILLION FOR

3:24:56GEORGES GARAGE PARCEL.

3:24:58UH.

3:24:59>> I THINK THERE'S UH A PIECE

3:25:04TO TO UNDERSTAND HERE AS FAR AS

3:25:06THIS LAND THE TEN YEAR TENURE

3:25:09PART UH AND THE REQUIREMENT TO

3:25:11PAY.

3:25:12INCLUDED IN THE.

3:25:13DOCUMENT THERE'S ALSO A A

3:25:15CONDITION THAT IF THERE'S NO

3:25:17CEO OR A TEMPORARY CEO THAT'S

3:25:19ISSUED BY OCTOBER 1ST, 2032,

3:25:22BIMINI WILL BE REQUIRED TO

3:25:24REPAY THE DIVERSE THESE

3:25:25DIVERSE, UH DISPERSED FUNDS

3:25:27WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE CITY'S

3:25:29WRITTEN DEMAND.

3:25:30SO AS AN EXAMPLE YOU KNOW, THEY

3:25:33CLOSE ON THE PROPERTIES WE

3:25:33PROVIDE THE THE RESOURCES OF UH

3:25:37$11 MILLION AND IF THEY DON'T

3:25:39COME BACK WITH A TKO OR A CEO

3:25:42ON ANY BUILDING, ANY VERTICAL

3:25:43BUILDING CONSTRUCTION ON THAT

3:25:45PROPERTY, UH, THEY WILL

3:25:47REQUIRED THEY WILL BE REQUIRED

3:25:48TO REIMBURSE THE FUNDS BACK TO

3:25:50US PROVIDED WE GIVE THEM A

3:25:52WRITTEN DEMAND TO DO SO.

3:25:58SO INCENTIVE CAPS AND

3:26:00CONDITIONS.

3:26:00SO WE ALSO HAVE THE TIF REBATE

3:26:02.

3:26:02WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE TIFF

3:26:03REBATE 95% CAT AND 95% RATE OF

3:26:06THE RATE CAP AT 45.75 MILLION.

3:26:09THE EXPIRATION OF THE REBATE

3:26:12PERIOD IS SEPTEMBER 30TH OF

3:26:142042.

3:26:15UH THE CRA HAS ALREADY APPROVED

3:26:18THE TIFF AGREEMENT UH VIA

3:26:19RESOLUTION 11 DASH 26 ON

3:26:24SEPTEMBER 9TH 2026.

3:26:25SO YOU KNOW, AS A REMINDER, YOU

3:26:27KNOW IF YOU DON'T GO VERTICALLY

3:26:29VERTICAL YOU DON'T GET VALUE,

3:26:31YOU DON'T GET ANY TIFF.

3:26:32SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN

3:26:33INCENTIVE HERE FOR THE

3:26:35DEVELOPER, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD

3:26:36WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IN ORDER

3:26:37TO RECOUP THE THE UH HIS TO

3:26:42RECOUP THE DEVELOPER'S

3:26:43INVESTMENT IN THE PROPERTY.

3:26:45WE HAVE IMPACT FEE CREDITS AT

3:26:47500,000 PER YEAR, $5 MILLION

3:26:50AGGREGATE THIS APPLIES TOWARDS

3:26:51ALL UH, ALL OF THE IMPACT FEES

3:26:55OTHER THAN POLICE.

3:26:56THE REASON FOR THE OTHER THAN

3:26:59POLICE IS BECAUSE WE'RE

3:27:00APPLYING THE POLICE IMPACT FEES

3:27:02TOWARDS THE BUILDING OR THE

3:27:054000FT2 OF A SUBSTATION WHICH

3:27:07WILL THEN HAVE A REDUCTION OR A

3:27:10WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER OR A

3:27:11REQUIREMENT FOR A LOWER COST.

3:27:13LEASE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, UH,

3:27:17ASSOCIATED WITH THAT 4000FT2.

3:27:20SO WITH THIS FIRE ALLEYS, PARKS

3:27:23AND RECREATION MOBILITY FEES

3:27:25ANY UNUSED CREDITS WOULD CARRY

3:27:27FORWARD.

3:27:27SO IF THEY HAVE A $500,000 PER

3:27:29YEAR FOR FISCAL YEAR, IF THEY

3:27:31USE 300,000 IN THAT YEAR

3:27:33200,000 WILL CARRY FORWARD TO

3:27:34THE NEXT TWO YEARS SO THEY'D

3:27:35HAVE 700,000.

3:27:36BUT OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME FOR

3:27:38THE DEVELOPMENT IS $500,000

3:27:41DEMOLITION ASSISTANCE THIS IS

3:27:43UP TO THE EIGHT STRUCTURES.

3:27:44THESE ARE THE TREMBLE

3:27:45STRUCTURES AS WELL AS THE AS

3:27:47WELL AS GEORGE'S UH THESE EIGHT

3:27:50STRUCTURES THAT ARE REMAINING

3:27:52UH THERE'S THE UP TO $200,000

3:27:54EACH ARE THE $200,000 IS IN OUR

3:27:57OUR ORDINANCE FOR THE UH

3:28:00DEMOLITION.

3:28:01SO IT'S A MAXIMUM AMOUNT THE

3:28:03ACTUAL AMOUNT WILL BE WHATEVER

3:28:04THE ACTUAL AMOUNT IS.

3:28:06SO IF YOU KNOW TAKES $45,000 TO

3:28:10TAKE DOWN ONE OF THE BUILDINGS,

3:28:11THAT'S $45,000.

3:28:12IT'S NOT $200,000.

3:28:14I WANT TO MAKE THAT ABUNDANTLY

3:28:15CLEAR THAT THIS IS A UH A LIMIT

3:28:17TO THE ACTUAL COST.

3:28:20BUT THE AGREEMENT CALLS FOR THE

3:28:22MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT'S ALLOWABLE

3:28:23BY ORDINANCE ENTERTAINMENT

3:28:26AREA, NO COST.

3:28:27UH, IT'S A CHANGE IN

3:28:29REGULATIONS.

3:28:29THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT

3:28:30WILL NEED TO BE.

3:28:32COME BACK TO THE.

3:28:32CITY COUNCIL.

3:28:33IT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S

3:28:35NOT COMPLETED IN THE, UH IN THE

3:28:38APPENDICES AND SO UH OR THE

3:28:41EXHIBITS SO WITH THOSE WHEN

3:28:43THAT IS DONE WE WILL ADD THAT

3:28:45TO THE EXHIBIT AND IT WILL BE

3:28:48ADJUSTED ASSOCIATED WITH THIS

3:28:49AGREEMENT.

3:28:54SO WE ALSO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL

3:28:56PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE

3:28:57IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE

3:28:58CONSTRUCTED BY THE DEVELOPER

3:29:00HOWEVER WE ARE CONTRIBUTING

3:29:01TOWARDS THEM.

3:29:02PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE 50% OF THE

3:29:04COST WILL HAVE A $1 MILLION

3:29:06CAP.

3:29:06SO IF THE COST IS $3 MILLION WE

3:29:08HAVE A $1 MILLION CAP RIGHT

3:29:11NOW.

3:29:11THOSE WILL BE COMING FROM UH

3:29:13CITY MOBILITY FUNDS.

3:29:14THAT'S WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED

3:29:15THEM TO ASSOCIATED WITH THIS

3:29:17PARTICULAR PROJECT CERTIFIED

3:29:20PROGRESS INVOICES PAYMENT

3:29:21WITHIN 30 DAYS.

3:29:22THIS IS HOW IT WOULD BE

3:29:23STRUCTURED.

3:29:24UH, WHEN THEY BEGIN THE

3:29:26PROMENADE WORK CORONADO AND

3:29:28MIRAMAR RIGHT NOW IT'S EQUAL

3:29:30SHARES.

3:29:30WE PUT $1.5 MILLION PER PARTY

3:29:33IN THERE.

3:29:34IF THE COST EXCEEDS THE $3

3:29:35MILLION WE'VE IDENTIFIED, WE'LL

3:29:37ADJUST THE AGREEMENT FOR

3:29:39WHATEVER THOSE NUMBERS ARE AT

3:29:40THE TIME IT COMES BACK.

3:29:42VICTORIA DRIVE STORMWATER I

3:29:44KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A

3:29:45QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, AS TO

3:29:47WHETHER TO BRING ANY COST TO

3:29:49THE FOLKS THAT LIVE ALONG

3:29:50VICTORIA DRIVE TODAY AND THE

3:29:51ANSWER IS NO.

3:29:52UH, IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE ANY OF

3:29:55THE THERE WILL BE REQUIREMENTS

3:29:57TO UPSIZE THE STORMWATER ALONG

3:29:59VICTORIA DRIVE AND THE

3:30:01STORMWATER SYSTEM WILL PICK

3:30:02THAT UP.

3:30:05THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT IS IS

3:30:08IS BASICALLY IDENTIFYING THE

3:30:10FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL

3:30:11ACTUALLY DO THE WORK WE WILL

3:30:13REIMBURSE ON THE FOR THE

3:30:14STORMWATER FOR VICTORIA DRIVE

3:30:16THAT AFFECTS THOSE PROPERTIES

3:30:19UTILITY CONTRIBUTIONS THE CRA

3:30:21WILL PAY CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE

3:30:23ADA CONSTRUCTION.

3:30:23WE HAVE A NUMBER OF UH VACANT

3:30:26LOTS THAT WERE NEVER BUILT ON

3:30:27IN THE BEVERLEY EAST AREA.

3:30:28THEY HAVE COST ASSOCIATED WITH

3:30:30IT.

3:30:31WE'VE NEGOTIATED THAT THERE'S

3:30:32THAT THE CRA WILL PAY OFF THAT

3:30:35KEY ACT BEFORE UH.

3:30:37>> THE.

3:30:37DEED AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

3:30:38IS CONSUMMATED CORONADO STREET

3:30:41LIGHTS UH, THE CRA UH IS WILL

3:30:44REPLACE THE UH THE STREET

3:30:46LIGHTS.

3:30:47THEY'VE ALREADY THEY'RE ALREADY

3:30:47IN PROCESS IF THEY'RE NOT

3:30:49ALREADY DONE.

3:30:50UH, SO THAT WILL BE WITHIN 12

3:30:52MONTHS OF CLOSING AND THERE'S

3:30:53NO STATED CAP.

3:30:58SO THIS IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER

3:30:59WILL DELIVER THE MOST OF THE ON

3:31:01SITE INFRASTRUCTURE AS A MATTER

3:31:02OF FACT WILL BE DELIVERING THE

3:31:0599.9% OF THE THE ON SITE

3:31:07INFRASTRUCTURE.

3:31:08SO THE DEVELOPER WILL FUND ALL

3:31:10THE INTERIOR ROADS.

3:31:11THEY'LL THEY'LL UH FUND THE

3:31:13LIGHTING THE WET AND DRY

3:31:15UTILITIES, PEDESTRIAN

3:31:16FACILITIES, STORMWATER SYSTEMS

3:31:18OTHER THAN THE STORMWATER

3:31:20SYSTEMS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED

3:31:21ALONG VICTORIA DRIVE AND THE

3:31:23MARINA AND THAT'S ALL SUBJECT

3:31:25TO ANY STATE AND CITY

3:31:26EXCEPTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY

3:31:29PRIVATE OWNERSHIP, THE

3:31:30DEVELOPERS UH AND OWNERS

3:31:31ASSOCIATION OR THE CDBG UH WILL

3:31:34RETAIN THE INTERIOR ROADS, THE

3:31:36WET AND DRY UM THE

3:31:38RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE WET AND

3:31:39DRY UTILITY SYSTEMS EXCEPT THE

3:31:42ONSITE LIFT STATION THE THE

3:31:43ONSITE LIFT STATION WILL BE

3:31:45BUILT TO OUR STANDARDS AND THE

3:31:47CITY WILL UH THAT WILL BE

3:31:49CONVEYED BY THE DEVELOPER TO

3:31:50THE CITY WHEN IT'S COMPLETED

3:31:51AND WE WILL MAINTAIN THE SITE

3:31:53LIVE STATION CITY OWNERSHIP

3:31:57AGAIN WILL ALREADY IDENTIFIED

3:31:59THAT AND THEN UH OTHER

3:32:01ALLOCATIONS THE DEVELOPERS WILL

3:32:02FUND ANY OF THE PERIMETER

3:32:04SIDEWALK WORK IF NECESSARY IF

3:32:05THEY NEED TO BRING THE GAS

3:32:07ACROSS THE UH SOUTH OF.

3:32:10UH CAPE CORAL PARKWAY, THEY'LL

3:32:11BRING THE GAS SOUTH OF.

3:32:12CAPE CORAL PARKWAY.

3:32:13ANY OF THE WORK ASSOCIATED WITH

3:32:15FERRY WORK UH, AROUND THE UH,

3:32:18MARINA WILL BE.

3:32:19UH.

3:32:20>> ON THE, UH, DEVELOPER.

3:32:23SO SOME OF THE PUBLIC ACCESS

3:32:26FACILITIES, UH, WHICH IS

3:32:27IMPORTANT FOR US TO RECOGNIZE

3:32:29AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPER'S

3:32:30AGREEMENT IS THAT WE'RE WE'RE

3:32:31TALKING AGAIN ABOUT A MARINA

3:32:33WITH 50 SLIPS AT LEAST 50% OF

3:32:36THOSE 50 SLIPS, 25 OF.

3:32:38>> THEM WILL.

3:32:39BE PUBLIC USE TEMPORARY ACCESS

3:32:42,UH, IS WILL BE ON A FIRST

3:32:43COME FIRST SERVE BASIS THE

3:32:46DEVELOPER HAS ASKED FOR AND

3:32:47WE'VE AGREED UH, AS FAR AS THE

3:32:49DE FOR 25% OF THE BOAT.

3:32:52OF OF FOR BOAT RENTAL.

3:32:53SO 25% OF THE SLIPS UH WILL BE

3:32:56AVAILABLE FOR BOAT RENTALS AND

3:32:57OR FERRY SERVICE.

3:32:59UH, THERE WILL BE NO OVERNIGHT

3:33:02.

3:33:02OUR LIVEABOARD IS ASSOCIATED

3:33:04WITH THIS MARINA.

3:33:05UM.

3:33:06>> AND DOCKING CHARGES WILL BE

3:33:08PERMITTED IF IF THEY DECIDE TO,

3:33:10UH, CHARGE DOCKETS.

3:33:11CHARGES TALKS ABOUT THE 2000

3:33:15SPACES UH, IN THE FOUR PARKING

3:33:17GARAGES.

3:33:17UH, THERE WILL BE 480 UH SPACES

3:33:21PERMANENTLY DEDICATED FOR.

3:33:22PUBLIC USE.

3:33:23WE'LL HAVE PARKING CHARGES.

3:33:25UH, ARE WILL BE PERMITTED IF,

3:33:27UH, THEY ELECT TO CHARGE FOR

3:33:29PARKING IN THE 2000 SPACES FOR

3:33:32FREEDOM SPARKED AGAIN 99 YEAR

3:33:34LEASE VERY SIMILAR TO THE, UH

3:33:36LEASE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE

3:33:37ANIMAL SHELTER AT LAKE KENNEDY

3:33:39.

3:33:39UH, IT WILL RETAIN ITS NAME AND

3:33:42THE PUBLIC RECREATIONAL USE

3:33:43COVENANT WILL BE UH INCLUDED

3:33:45WITHIN THE BOTH THE LEASE AND

3:33:47IT'S ALREADY ON THE PLAT

3:33:50APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE

3:33:51NEIGHBORHOOD PARK DEDICATION

3:33:52WILL ALSO BE INCLUDED.

3:33:53IT'LL INCLUDE TWO TENNIS COURTS

3:33:54AS WELL AS A PLAYGROUND.

3:33:58SO THE THE DEVELOPERS UH, WILL

3:34:01RETAIN THE MARINA, THE MOORING

3:34:03FIELD.

3:34:03THEY'LL MANAGE THE MOORING

3:34:04FIELD ON OUR BEHALF.

3:34:05UH, WE'LL ENTER INTO AN

3:34:07AGREEMENT WHEN THE MOORING

3:34:08FIELD IS AVAILABLE TO OPERATE.

3:34:09UH, THEY WILL OPERATE THE MAN

3:34:11SHELLS THE PARKING REVENUES AND

3:34:13INCLUDING ANY NAMING RIGHTS

3:34:15ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE WITH

3:34:16THOSE ITEMS FOR FREEDOM'S PARK

3:34:18WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE

3:34:19RENAMED AGAIN.

3:34:22POLICE SUBSTATION TALKED ABOUT

3:34:24THE 4000FT2 UH OR A COMPARABLE

3:34:29PROJECT RETAIL RENT UH LESS ANY

3:34:32APPLICABLE IMPACT FEE CREDITS

3:34:33THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AND WE'D

3:34:34BE LOOKING AT ABOUT 3% ANNUAL

3:34:36RENT INCREASES 20 YEAR TERM TEN

3:34:39YEAR 310 YEAR RENEWALS.

3:34:41UH, TAKE IT OUT TO 50 YEARS.

3:34:43UH, WE WOULD EXECUTE THIS WHEN

3:34:44THE BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED

3:34:46FOR THE BUILDING CONTAINING THE

3:34:48SUBSTATION EMERGENCY PARKING.

3:34:51UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO ENTER INTO

3:34:52AN AGREEMENT A SEPARATE PARKING

3:34:54AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER.

3:34:55UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO

3:34:57STAGE EMERGENCY VEHICLES THREE

3:34:59DAYS BEFORE, DURING AND TWO

3:35:01DAYS AFTER AN EMERGENCY

3:35:03DISASTER.

3:35:03SO WE WOULD STAGE VEHICLES IN

3:35:05THE PARKING GARAGES.

3:35:06UM.

3:35:07>> UH, UTILIZING A SEPARATE

3:35:10PARKING AGREEMENT WHICH AGAIN

3:35:12IS NOT CURRENTLY IN THE IN THE

3:35:14AGREEMENT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T

3:35:15BUILT SOMETHING AND WE HAVEN'T

3:35:17IDENTIFIED EXACTLY WHERE IT'S

3:35:18GOING.

3:35:18>> TO.

3:35:19BE.

3:35:19>> MOORING FIELDS.

3:35:21TALKED A.

3:35:21LITTLE JUST RECENTLY THE

3:35:23DEVELOPERS WILL OPERATE AND

3:35:24MAINTAIN A CITY UH INSTALLED

3:35:26MOORING FIELD UNDER A SEPARATE

3:35:28AGREEMENT.

3:35:28UH, WE HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED OR

3:35:32THEY HAVEN'T PUT IN THE MOORING

3:35:33YET AND SO WE HAVEN'T, UH, WE

3:35:36DON'T HAVE A, UH, A MOORING

3:35:37FIELD YET TO MANAGE, BUT THEY

3:35:39WILL BE MANAGING IT.

3:35:43THE DA EFFECTIVE DATE.

3:35:45UH.

3:35:46>> THE AND AT THE TIME THAT WE

3:35:48ENTER IN THE PURCHASE SALE

3:35:49AGREEMENT UH, WITHIN TEN DAYS

3:35:51OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE CLOSING,

3:35:53UH, WHEN THEY SUBMIT FIRST

3:35:55PHASE CIVIL ENGINEERING UH,

3:35:57WITHIN SIX MONTHS, UH,

3:35:58ASSOCIATED WITH THE MARINA

3:36:00LATER MARINA APPROVALS

3:36:01QUALIFYING ZONING ACTION WOULD

3:36:03START FIRST THEY WOULD START A

3:36:04FIRST PHASE PLUS OR MINUS TWO

3:36:06BUILDINGS PLUS OR -200,000FT2.

3:36:09IT WOULD ALSO DEDICATE THE

3:36:10NEIGHBORHOOD BACH AT THE SAME

3:36:11TIME.

3:36:11AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT

3:36:12WITHIN 24 MONTHS OF THE

3:36:15APPROVALS THEREAFTER THE

3:36:17COMMENCEMENT DATE ON THE CORE

3:36:18AREA AGAIN WITHIN A FURTHER 24

3:36:21MONTHS.

3:36:21SO THE ANTICIPATION UH WOULD BE

3:36:23THAT UH THEY WOULD HAVE ACO OR

3:36:26TCO UH FOR SOME VERTICAL

3:36:29IMPROVEMENT BY OCTOBER 1ST,

3:36:312032.

3:36:35INCLUDED IN THE DE UH THE.

3:36:38UM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

3:36:40EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS FULL

3:36:41COMMENCEMENT DOES NOT MEAN FULL

3:36:42CONDITION UH, FULL COMPLETION

3:36:44AND MILESTONES ARE SUBJECT TO

3:36:46ANY FORCE MAJEURE TOLLING WHICH

3:36:48MEANS IF WE HAVE A HURRICANE

3:36:49AND IT CAUSES A SIX MONTH DELAY

3:36:52UH, BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANE,

3:36:53THAT'S FORCE MAJEURE AND THAT

3:36:54WOULD TOLL AGAINST THE 2032

3:36:57DEADLINE.

3:37:01ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE

3:37:03OFFERED AND WE'VE HAVE WITH,

3:37:04UH, AT LEAST TWO OTHER

3:37:07AGREEMENTS UH, IS EXPEDITED

3:37:08REVIEW AND PARE AND PAIRED WITH

3:37:10THE DEVELOPER PAYMENT.

3:37:11SO IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE WE'RE

3:37:13TALKING ABOUT HAVING, UH, IN A

3:37:17PRIORITY VIEW, UH, REVIEW

3:37:18PROCESS IN ORDER TO GET THINGS

3:37:19MOVING ALONG IN A PRIORITY

3:37:21BASIS.

3:37:22AND SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHAT

3:37:24THOSE TIME PERIODS ARE AND THE

3:37:27DEVELOPER AGREES TO PAY ANY OF

3:37:29THE PERSONNEL COSTS ASSOCIATED

3:37:30WITH THAT PRIORITY REVIEW AS

3:37:33FAR AS INSPECTIONS APPROVALS,

3:37:34UH, IF THEY AGREE AND WE WILL

3:37:37PUT THE RATES ASSOCIATED WITH

3:37:38THAT IN THE DEVELOPER'S

3:37:40AGREEMENT, UH, THEY WOULD HAVE

3:37:41FULL TIME ONSITE STAFF IF

3:37:44REQUESTED.

3:37:44THIS WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE

3:37:46THE STAFF THAT WE CURRENTLY

3:37:47HAVE WORKING DOWNSTAIRS WOULD

3:37:48ACTUALLY BRING ON SEPARATE

3:37:50STAFF THAT WOULD ACTUALLY DO

3:37:51THAT WORK.

3:37:52DEVELOPERS PAY AND PROVIDE FOR

3:37:53THE WORKSPACE ASSOCIATED WITH

3:37:54THAT AND THE FIRST PERMITS

3:37:55WOULD REMAIN WITH THE

3:37:57DEVELOPER'S RESPONSIBILITY.

3:38:00IN ADDITION, THE DEVELOPER'S

3:38:01AGREEMENT CALLS FOR AN OPTIONAL

3:38:03CD.

3:38:03THERE IS AN OPTION FOR THE

3:38:06DEVELOPER, UH, TO.

3:38:06PETITION FOR A CD.

3:38:10AND THEY.

3:38:11>> WOULD USE A CD.

3:38:11UH TO.

3:38:12SELL TAX EXEMPT INFRASTRUCTURE

3:38:15BONDS IN ORDER TO PUT IN UH THE

3:38:18UNDERGROUND WORK UH AND THE

3:38:20ROADWAYS AND THE ETC. WITHIN

3:38:22THE UH DEVELOPER AND THEN

3:38:24WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA.

3:38:27WE'VE ASKED FOR AND THEY'VE

3:38:29AGREED UH THAT UH ONE CITY

3:38:32REPRESENTATIVE SEAT WHILE THE

3:38:34DEVELOPERS WILL CONTROL ONE UH

3:38:35GREATER THAN OR EQUAL TO THREE

3:38:37UH, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE

3:38:38ONE SEAT ON THE SITE.

3:38:39UH, PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE

3:38:41WE'LL HAVE UH THE UM.

3:38:44WE'LL HAVE THE.

3:38:46THE PLAYGROUND AREA DOWN THERE

3:38:47AS WELL AS THE POLICE

3:38:50SUBSTATION AND OF COURSE WE

3:38:50HAVE THE THE LEASED PARK AREA.

3:38:53SO FOR US IT'S HAVING UH YOU

3:38:57KNOW, A SEAT ON A BOARD, UH,

3:38:59WHILE THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS

3:39:00ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT'S

3:39:01HAPPENING, UH, WITH THE CITY

3:39:02THE CITY PERFORMANCE CAN

3:39:05DISCHARGE THE ASSIGNED

3:39:06DEVELOPERS THE DUTIES, WHICH

3:39:07MEANS, UH, THE CD CAN DO, UH,

3:39:10QUITE A BIT OF THE WORK, UH,

3:39:11AND ALLOW AND UTILIZING TAX

3:39:14EXEMPT DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THE

3:39:17INFRASTRUCTURE WORK ON THE

3:39:18SITE.

3:39:22UM.

3:39:22>> SO A LONGER TERM AGREEMENT

3:39:24WITH ANNUAL COMPLIANCE UH, WE

3:39:27HAVE A 20 YEAR AGREEMENT WITH

3:39:28TWO AUTOMATIC FIVE YEAR

3:39:29RENEWALS IF THE DEFERRED

3:39:31PURCHASE PRICE IS FULLY PAID A

3:39:33MAXIMUM STATED TERM OF 30 YEARS

3:39:34TO 30 YEARS I BELIEVE IS UH,

3:39:37STATUTORY IT CAN'T EXCEED 30

3:39:39YEARS.

3:39:40UH RECORDING REVIEW UH, WE

3:39:42WOULD RECORD A MEMORANDUM

3:39:43WITHIN 14 DAYS, UH, OF THE

3:39:45REQUIRED APPROVAL AND EXECUTION

3:39:47THE CITY WOULD REVIEW ON A GOOD

3:39:48FAITH COMPLIANCE UH, AT LEAST

3:39:50EVERY 12 MONTHS ASSOCIATED WITH

3:39:52THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.

3:39:54THEY WOULD KEEP THEIR RECORDS

3:39:56ON A GAAP BASIS.

3:39:56THE CITY AUDITOR WILL HAVE

3:39:58RIGHTS UH, TO EVALUATE UH OR

3:40:01AUDIT ACCESS AUDITORS RIGHTS,

3:40:03AUDIT RIGHTS AND APPLICABLE

3:40:04PUBLIC RECORDS AND DUTIES WILL

3:40:06ARE UH ASSOCIATED WITH THIS

3:40:09PROJECT'S ARRIVAL AND RETENTION

3:40:10CLAUSES UH YOU KNOW WILL

3:40:13REQUIRE ADMINISTRATION AND THE

3:40:15REGULATORY AUTHORITY THE

3:40:17AGREEMENT IS NOT A PERMIT I

3:40:18JUST AS A REMINDER IT'S NOT A

3:40:19PERMANENCE A GOVERNMENTAL

3:40:20APPROVALS REMAIN SUBJECT TO THE

3:40:22PUBLIC PROCESS.

3:40:23THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE

3:40:24TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ASSOCIATED

3:40:26WITH THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT.

3:40:27AND THE DE WILL PROTECT THE

3:40:30DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS UH, AT

3:40:32ITS EFFECTIVE DATE.

3:40:34SO WE HAVE SOME CURE RIGHTS AND

3:40:37TERMINATION UH, LIMITS AFFECT

3:40:38THE ENFORCEMENT SO WE HAVE SOME

3:40:40CLEAR RIGHTS.

3:40:41SO WE HAVE A GENERAL DE UH CURE

3:40:44PERIOD 90 DAYS AFTER WRITTEN

3:40:45NOTICE.

3:40:46SO IF SOMETHING IS WE FIND THAT

3:40:48SOMETHING IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE

3:40:49WE WOULD NOTIFY THE THE

3:40:51DEVELOPER THERE WOULD BE A

3:40:53PRIORITY REVIEW OF INVOICE A

3:40:54SEPARATE SHORTER NOTICE CURE

3:40:55PERIOD ETC. NON-MONETARY

3:40:58DEFAULT WE HAVE 60 DAYS

3:41:00BUSINESS UH BUSINESS DAYS UH

3:41:02AFTER WRITTEN NOTICE WITH

3:41:03ADDITIONAL TIME TO CURE

3:41:05AVAILABLE REMEDIES UH STRICT

3:41:08PERFORMANCE AND OTHER

3:41:09CONTRACTUAL LEGAL EQUITABLE

3:41:10EQUITABLE REMEDIES UH SUBJECT

3:41:12TO ANY OF THE LIMITATIONS

3:41:14ASSOCIATED WITH THE AGREEMENT

3:41:16AND TERMINATION UH, WE WANT TO

3:41:18MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, WE

3:41:19UNDERSTAND THAT CITY THE DA UH

3:41:22PARAGRAPH 28 DOES BAR THE CITY

3:41:24TERMINATION WHILE THE

3:41:25DEVELOPERS COMPLY WITH 10.2 OR

3:41:28HAVE PAID THE ENTIRE DEFERRED

3:41:30PURCHASE PRICE.

3:41:31SO IF THEY'VE PAID THE ENTIRE

3:41:32UH, PURCHASE PRICE THEY OWN THE

3:41:34LAND AND FOR ALL INTENTS AND

3:41:36PURPOSES THE DEA WOULD STAY IN

3:41:37PLACE UNTIL THEY'VE DEVELOPED

3:41:38THE.

3:41:38PROPERTIES OR NOT.

3:41:42LAND TRANSFER IMPLEMENTS THE

3:41:45DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

3:41:45THIS IS WHAT STARTS EVERYTHING

3:41:47.

3:41:47UH.

3:41:48>> IN ORDER FOR THEM TO PULL

3:41:49ANY PERMITS IN ORDER FOR THEM

3:41:50TO DO ANYTHING ON THE SITE, UH

3:41:53,THE PERSONAL SALE AGREEMENT

3:41:54WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSUMMATED.

3:41:55TRANSFER INCLUDES THE RELATED

3:41:57UH RIGHTS TITLE ENTITLEMENTS,

3:41:59ETC. YOU KNOW, ASSOCIATED WITH

3:42:01THE LAND.

3:42:02UH, THE SELLER WILL BE THE CITY

3:42:04OF CAPE CORAL AND BIMINI BASIN

3:42:06REDEVELOPMENT WILL BE THE BUYER

3:42:09AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT THE $1

3:42:10MILLION DEPOSIT 250,000 INITIAL

3:42:13UH TO 750,000 AFTER THE CLOSING

3:42:17TRIGGER CONDITIONS.

3:42:18UH, AND THAT'S BASICALLY

3:42:20ASSOCIATED WITH THE MARINA.

3:42:24THEY WILL BE PROVIDING A CASH

3:42:25UH DEPOSIT UH BUT THEY DO HAVE

3:42:28THE ABILITY TO DO A LETTER OF

3:42:29CREDIT DEPOSIT IF THEY CHOOSE

3:42:31TO DO SO.

3:42:32UH, PRICE CREDIT TREATMENT UH,

3:42:34ANY DEPOSIT WOULD BE RELEASED

3:42:36AGAINST THE FIRST UH PAYMENT

3:42:38THE FIRST RELEASE PAYMENT

3:42:39AGAINST THE UH AGAINST THE

3:42:43AMOUNT OF THE THE PURCHASE

3:42:45PRICE ASSOCIATED WITH THE LAND.

3:42:51THERE WILL BE SOME TITLE DUE

3:42:53DILIGENCE PERIOD, UH,

3:42:54ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

3:42:55UH, SO WE HAVE WE HAVE SOME

3:42:57VERY, YOU KNOW, VERY STRICT

3:42:58RULES WRITTEN INTO THE PSA WHEN

3:43:00CERTAIN THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN.

3:43:01SO THE CITY WILL HAVE TO, YOU

3:43:03KNOW, ORDER A TITLE COMMITMENT

3:43:05IF THERE'S ANY OBJECTIONS TO

3:43:06THE TITLE THAT HAVE TO NOTICE

3:43:08US IN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

3:43:09UH, SO WE HAVE ALL OF THESE

3:43:11ITEMS THAT ARE WRITTEN DIRECTLY

3:43:12INTO THE DA AND THESE ARE

3:43:14COMMON OCCURRENCES WITH WITHIN

3:43:16ALL PARTS OF SALE MUCH.

3:43:21SO THE CLOSING DEPENDS ON THE

3:43:23DILIGENCE AND TWO DEVELOPMENT

3:43:24GATES.

3:43:25SO THE CLOSING.

3:43:26WILL DEPEND ON 90 DAYS FOR THE

3:43:29BUYER FUNDED PHASE ONE AND ANY

3:43:31WILDLIFE REPORTS FOR THE SITE.

3:43:32UH THE BUYER WILL ALSO.

3:43:34UH AND THEY MUST AGAIN THEY

3:43:37HAVE TO BE SATISFACTORY AND IN

3:43:39THEIR THEIR DISCRETION OF THE

3:43:40BUYER MAY TERMINATE AND RECOVER

3:43:42THE DEPOSIT IF THEY'RE NOT THE

3:43:44PARCEL CONTROL GATE MEANS THAT

3:43:46THE CONTRACTS TO ACQUIRE THE

3:43:48CONTROL OF DA THE 6.5 THE

3:43:50ADDITIONAL PARCELS.

3:43:51SO FOR THEM FOR THE DEVELOPER

3:43:54THERE'S ALSO THE GATE THAT THEY

3:43:56HAVE TO ALSO OBTAIN THE OTHER

3:43:59PARCELS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF

3:44:01THE PROJECT TO WORK.

3:44:04FOR THE MARINA GATE SOUTH

3:44:06FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT

3:44:07DISTRICT MEETING ANY

3:44:09PRELIMINARY ASSURANCES THAT

3:44:10THEIR WILLINGNESS TO APPROVE

3:44:12THE MARINA.

3:44:12SO THESE ARE CERTAIN THINGS

3:44:14THAT HAVE TO OCCUR IN ORDER FOR

3:44:16THE THE FINAL CLOSING TO OCCUR

3:44:19AND FOR THEM TO START ANY

3:44:22DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE.

3:44:24THE BUYER WILL PAY MOST OF THE

3:44:27TRANSACTION EXPENSES ASSOCIATED

3:44:29WITH THIS.

3:44:32THEY'LL BUILD A CLOSING

3:44:34CALENDAR FROM THE CONTRACTUAL

3:44:35TRIGGERS.

3:44:36SO WE'LL WE WILL WORK TOGETHER

3:44:37TO BUILD OUT THIS THIS UH THIS

3:44:40PROCESS TO MAKE THE FINAL

3:44:42DETERMINATION OF THE TIMING.

3:44:45AND AGAIN THE FOUR FREEDOMS

3:44:47GROUNDLESS.

3:44:47UH, AGAIN SIMILAR TO THE ANIMAL

3:44:49SHELTER UH, SUBJECT TO THE

3:44:51TERMS AND COVENANTS AND ANY

3:44:52AGREEMENTS CONDITIONS UH, AS

3:44:55WELL AS APPROVAL BY THE CITY

3:44:56COUNCIL BY ORDINANCE.

3:44:57SO THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN

3:44:59ORDINANCE TO ALSO APPROVE, UH,

3:45:01ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LEASE THE

3:45:03TERM IN THE RENT 99 YEARS, $1

3:45:05PER YEAR.

3:45:05UH, AGAIN SIMILAR TO THE ANIMAL

3:45:08SHELTER, UH, USE OF PREMISES.

3:45:12SO WE'RE EXPECTING, UH, THAT IT

3:45:15WILL BE KEPT OPEN AS A

3:45:16RECREATION AREA.

3:45:17IT WILL ALLOW FOR SPECIAL

3:45:18EVENTS FOR A PERMIT.

3:45:20IT WILL PROVIDE FOR

3:45:22IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THE

3:45:23BANDSHELL, DOCKS, PLAYGROUND,

3:45:25UH, AND ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS

3:45:26WILL BECOME THE CITY PROPERTY

3:45:27THAT THE END OF THE LEASE TERM

3:45:30UTILITIES TAXES LESSER WILL

3:45:32SHALL HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY.

3:45:33THAT WOULD BE US FOR ANY OF THE

3:45:35UTILITIES AND TAXES LESLIE

3:45:36WOULD RESPONSIBLE FOR

3:45:37EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT

3:45:39SITE AND ANY REPAIRS AND

3:45:41MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED WITH

3:45:42ANYTHING THAT'S ON THAT SITE

3:45:43WOULD WOULD REVERT TO THE

3:45:44DEVELOPER AS WELL.

3:45:49SO THE COURT DECISION

3:45:51ASSOCIATED WITH THIS

3:45:52DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT IS IS THE

3:45:53PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENT WITH

3:45:54GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT THERE

3:45:55ARE OTHER AGREEMENTS THAT WILL

3:45:57NOT HAVE NOT BEEN YET TRIGGERED

3:45:58,UH, AND WILL NOT BE TRIGGERED

3:46:01FOR SOME TIME UNTIL CERTAIN

3:46:02EVENTS OCCUR IN THE FUTURE UH,

3:46:05HOWEVER, WE WILL HAVE UH YOU

3:46:07KNOW, THE BASIC UH, YOU KNOW,

3:46:10IDENTIFICATION OF WHAT THE

3:46:10LEASE AGREEMENT WILL LOOK LIKE

3:46:11MAY NOT HAVE ANY NUMBERS IN IT,

3:46:12BUT WE'LL BE COMING BACK AT A

3:46:14LATER DATE TO ACTUALLY APPROVE

3:46:15THOSE AGREEMENTS.

3:46:18ALL THESE ITEMS ALL THESE TERMS

3:46:20WOULD NEED TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW

3:46:21,UM, AND FINALIZED TOGETHER

3:46:25AND THEY WILL ALL BE

3:46:26ADMINISTERED AS ONE COORDINATED

3:46:27TRANSACTION.

3:46:30SO JUST AS A REMINDER, THE

3:46:32ECONOMIC IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH

3:46:33THIS DEVELOPMENT IS

3:46:34APPROXIMATELY $500 MILLION

3:46:36ASSOCIATED WITH THE TOTAL

3:46:37PROJECT INVESTMENT.

3:46:38WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL JOBS

3:46:41UH, POTENTIALLY SUPPORTED AND

3:46:42THIS IS BY THE EMPLOYMENT UH,

3:46:44DOCUMENT THAT WE PROVIDED TO

3:46:45YOU IN JULY.

3:46:46RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT 3401 JOBS

3:46:49THAT WOULD BE APPROVED UH,

3:46:51PROVIDED FOR THIS UH OR

3:46:52SUPPORTED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT

3:46:56$246 MILLION IN LABOR INCOME,

3:46:58418 MILLION UH IN TOTAL VALUE

3:47:01ADDED UH TO.

3:47:02UH THE.

3:47:03GDP FOR THE CITY 750.9 MILLION

3:47:06IN TOTAL ECONOMIC OUTPUT

3:47:07ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT

3:47:10DIRECT JOBS ASSOCIATED WITH THE

3:47:11BUILDINGS ON SITE, JOBS ON SITE

3:47:13AND ANYTHING THAT COMES

3:47:15AFTERWARDS DEPENDING DEPENDING

3:47:16ON WHAT TYPE OF RETAIL, MEDICAL

3:47:19OR OTHERWISE THEY'LL HAVE ON

3:47:20SITE APPROXIMATELY 2218 JOBS

3:47:23INDIRECT 591 INDUCED 592 THAT

3:47:27WOULD BE SUPPORTED FROM ANY

3:47:28SPENDING THAT MIGHT BE ON SITE.

3:47:31SO THIS IS UH SO I'M HERE TO

3:47:34ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT

3:47:35HAVE IF I DIDN'T ANSWER THEM IN

3:47:36THE PRESENTATION.

3:47:38THANK YOU.

3:47:39OKAY.

3:47:40>> THANK YOU.

3:47:40I'LL NOW OPEN UP THE FIRST

3:47:41PUBLIC HEARING.

3:47:42ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON

3:47:44ORDINANCE 55 DASH 26, PLEASE

3:47:46COME FORWARD.

3:47:56UM, MY NAME.

3:47:57>> IS BRETT KAVANAUGH.

3:47:58UM, FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY

3:47:59IS THIS WHOLE.

3:48:00THING ABOUT PAYING THE $11

3:48:02MILLION OF NOT HAVING TO

3:48:04PROVIDE, UM, APPRAISALS.

3:48:07IS A DISSERVICE.

3:48:09TO THE CITIZENS.

3:48:12.

3:48:12>> I RECEIVED UM, COPIES OF

3:48:16APPRAISALS BUT THEY WERE DONE

3:48:17IN 2024 ACCORDING TO OUR VERY

3:48:22OWN CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES

3:48:25SECTION 2-1 52 YOU WON'T BE

3:48:29ABLE TO USE THOSE BECAUSE FOR

3:48:31THE PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION A

3:48:33RECENT APPRAISAL SHALL MEAN ONE

3:48:35THAT WAS PREPARED NOT MORE THAN

3:48:3712 MONTHS PRIOR TO THE PROPOSED

3:48:39PURCHASE.

3:48:40THOSE APPRAISALS WERE DONE IN

3:48:4220 20TH SEPTEMBER OF 2024.

3:48:45SO THAT'S 25 MONTHS BEYOND AND

3:48:49YOU'RE THE WHOLE THING WITH ME

3:48:51.

3:48:51UH FOUR FREEDOMS PARK IS JUST

3:48:55SO WRONG.

3:48:55YOU'RE TAKING EVERYTHING AWAY

3:48:57FROM US.

3:48:58YOU'RE GIVING THEM UM I WILL

3:49:00GIVE YOU $100 A YEAR FOR 99

3:49:03YEARS FOR THE LEASE ON THAT

3:49:04PROPERTY AND I'LL LEAVE IT JUST

3:49:06THE WAY IT IS.

3:49:07IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PARK.

3:49:09YOU'RE GOING TO GO IN AND ONCE

3:49:11AGAIN LIKE JAYCEE PARK YOU'RE

3:49:12GOING TO WRECK IT SO THE

3:49:14INCOMING COUNCIL CAN'T DO

3:49:16ANYTHING TO REVERSE YOUR

3:49:18DECISION.

3:49:19AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS

3:49:20WHOLE THING IS ABOUT.

3:49:21YOU.

3:49:22>> IT'S YOU AND HIM AND A BOARD

3:49:27ATTORNEY CITY ATTORNEY THAT

3:49:29LOOKS.

3:49:29FOR LOOPHOLES TO SCREW THE

3:49:32PEOPLE.

3:49:32THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

3:49:33IT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT RIGHT.

3:49:37AND, UM.

3:49:41I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT LEASE

3:49:43ONCE YOU SIGN THIS THING OFF

3:49:44BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY A FOREGONE

3:49:46CONCLUSION.

3:49:47THERE'S EVIDENCE OF THIS IN

3:49:49EXHIBIT J.

3:49:51WHERE IT SAYS HERE THAT IT'S

3:49:55ALREADY A DONE DEAL.

3:49:55BASICALLY THIS IS WHERE'S MARY

3:49:57?

3:49:58CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED ORDINANCE

3:50:015526 ON OCTOBER 21ST 2026.

3:50:04CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT

3:50:05TODAY IS OCTOBER 7TH.

3:50:08APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT

3:50:09AGREEMENT BETWEEN LESSOR AND

3:50:11LESSEE AND THE LEASE ALSO GOES

3:50:15ON TO SAY THEY COULD GO IN AND

3:50:17DEMOLISH THE WHOLE THING AND I

3:50:18THINK IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE

3:50:19WHAT YOU DID TO US FOR JAYCEE

3:50:21PARK BEFORE OUR NEW COUNCIL WAS

3:50:22SWORN IN, YOU SENT THE HEAVY

3:50:25EQUIPMENT IN THERE TO KNOCK THE

3:50:27TREES DOWN BY HALF BECAUSE YOU

3:50:29DIDN'T HAVE THE PERMITS TO DIG

3:50:31THEM UP.

3:50:32YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME

3:50:33THING AND MAKE IT SO IT'S JUST

3:50:35IMPOSSIBLE FOR AN INCOMING

3:50:36COUNCIL TO DO ANYTHING.

3:50:37THIS IS SO AND THIS EXHIBIT J.

3:50:39AND IS PROBABLY A MISTAKE OKAY

3:50:43,BUT HOW MANY OTHER MISTAKES?

3:50:44THERE'S 190 PAGES JUST IN THE

3:50:47ORDINANCE THAT DOESN'T COUNT

3:50:49ALL THESE LITTLE PRESENTATIONS

3:50:51AND WHATNOT AND IT WAS A

3:50:53TREMENDOUS THING TO GO THROUGH.

3:50:54BUT IF THERE'S.

3:50:55THAT A MISTAKE OF THIS NATURE

3:50:57AND IT TELLS ME RIGHT AWAY THAT

3:50:59STAFF ALREADY KNOWS THAT YOU

3:51:01HAVE YOU ALL HAVE THE VOTES TO

3:51:02DO THIS.

3:51:03THANK YOU.

3:51:04>> DON'T DO IT PLEASE LORI.

3:51:08I'M SORRY.

3:51:09IS THE TOWN CLERK WORKING,

3:51:11MADAM CITY CLERK.

3:51:12IT'S NOT.

3:51:13WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE

3:51:15TIMER BUT WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE

3:51:16ONE.

3:51:16OKAY.

3:51:17>> THANK YOU.

3:51:17OKAY, OKAY.

3:51:19UH, TOM SHADRACK.

3:51:20UH, JUST A FEW.

3:51:22THINGS ON THIS.

3:51:23UM.

3:51:24>> BASICALLY MY MATH.

3:51:27I'M SURPRISED.

3:51:28>> WE.

3:51:28CAN'T SEE A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.

3:51:29>> YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN UP HERE

3:51:30FOR SEVEN YEARS.

3:51:32ALWAYS DOING MY OWN FINANCIAL

3:51:34ANALYSIS SAYING I'M INACCURATE

3:51:35BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET A

3:51:37FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.

3:51:39UH, BUT.

3:51:40>> I'M HARDLY INACCURATE AND I

3:51:42WOULD LOVE TO SEE ONE HERE.

3:51:43I'VE KIND OF DONE ONE ON MY

3:51:44OWN.

3:51:45UM.

3:51:45>> WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, THERE'S

3:51:47DEFINITELY JUST ON THE PURCHASE

3:51:49PRICE OF THE LAND ITSELF IS A

3:51:52$30,000,000.30 $2 MILLION LOSS

3:51:53.

3:51:54UM.

3:51:55>> SO WE.

3:51:56WON'T RECOVER ANY.

3:51:58>> OF THAT 32 MILLION.

3:51:59FOR OVER 15 YEARS BEFORE THEY

3:52:03START PAYING PROPERTY TAX ON

3:52:04THAT PROPERTY IN 15 YEARS

3:52:06YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO

3:52:07COVER THAT BY DEBT?

3:52:08THAT IS I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A

3:52:10GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING STANDARDS

3:52:11THAT MUCH, BUT I AM AN EXPERT

3:52:13IN COMMON SENSE AND IT DOESN'T

3:52:15MAKE ANY SENSE TO FINANCE THAT

3:52:18$32 MILLION THAT.

3:52:19WILL NOT RECOVER FOR OVER 15

3:52:22YEARS.

3:52:22THAT'S CRAZY.

3:52:23IT JUST THE NEXT COUNCIL WILL

3:52:26PROBABLY HAVE TO DECIDE TO

3:52:27WRITE THAT $32 MILLION OFF WITH

3:52:29CURRENT FUNDS THAT WE HAVE.

3:52:31THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT.

3:52:33UM.

3:52:33>> THE 11 MILLION UH, MARIE

3:52:37ALWAYS ALREADY TALK.

3:52:38IT'S JUST A SHELL GAME.

3:52:39IT'S NOT WORTH THAT MUCH MONEY

3:52:41BUT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT

3:52:42ANYWAY TO GET THIS DONE.

3:52:43AND AGAIN IT'S ALL ABOUT THE

3:52:45FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.

3:52:46YOU GUYS NEED TO DECIDE WHAT IS

3:52:47THE REAL VALUE THIS WE'RE GOING

3:52:50TO PAY AS A CITY.

3:52:51IS IT 70,000,075.

3:52:54>> MILLION.

3:52:54IF YOU ADDED ALL THOSE THINGS

3:52:56UP THAT ARE ON OUR SIDE OF THE

3:52:58LEDGER TO PAY FOR WHAT IS IT

3:53:00WHAT IS THE TOTAL ESTIMATED

3:53:02VALUE OF THAT?

3:53:03AND THEN YOU HAVE A $500

3:53:05MILLION.

3:53:05THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO

3:53:06BRING.

3:53:06THAT'S A BEST CASE SCENARIO.

3:53:09YOU ALWAYS GOT TO LOOK AT MIN

3:53:12MAX MIDDLE AND FIND OUT WHAT

3:53:14ARE YOU REALLY THINK THAT'S

3:53:15GOING TO BE AND MAKE A DECISION

3:53:18BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND THEN YOUR

3:53:20DECISION IS THEN YOU CAN MAKE A

3:53:21GOOD DECISION.

3:53:22IS THE ECONOMIC VALUE WORTH IT

3:53:25COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE TO PUT

3:53:26UP?

3:53:27AND THAT'S WHY I'VE TALKED

3:53:28ABOUT IT.

3:53:28IT'S LOPSIDED IN MY VIEW AND

3:53:30THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.

3:53:32UH BUT WHERE IS THE FINANCIAL

3:53:34ANALYSIS IF YOU'VE SEEN IT I

3:53:36THINK IT SHOULD BE SHARED WITH

3:53:37THE PUBLIC ESPECIALLY BEFORE

3:53:38THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING.

3:53:40UM, THE UH AND THEN WHAT IS

3:53:43THIS IMPACT TO THE PRICING OF

3:53:45THE CRA?

3:53:46ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO

3:53:47ANY OTHER PROJECTS FOR THE NEXT

3:53:4920 YEARS IN THE CRA IF WE GOT

3:53:51TO FUND THIS PROJECT AND UH,

3:53:54JUST KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE

3:53:56PRESCHOOL THAT'S AT FOR

3:53:56FREEDOM'S PARK, THE FACT THAT

3:53:58NO ONE'S DISCUSSING THAT I

3:54:00ASSUME IT'S GOING TO BE GONE.

3:54:01BUT WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THAT

3:54:03PRESCHOOL OR IS.

3:54:05>> IT JUST GONE.

3:54:06AND WHAT TIME WOULD IT BE GONE?

3:54:08THAT'S IT.

3:54:08THANK YOU.

3:54:21MA'AM.

3:54:22>> UM.

3:54:28GOOD EVENING.

3:54:28>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

3:54:29>> MY NAME IS NICOLE AND I'M A

3:54:30CAPE CORAL RESIDENT.

3:54:31I'M HERE ABOUT FOUR FREEDOMS

3:54:33PARK.

3:54:33>> ON.

3:54:34ANY BASIN.

3:54:34THIS ISN'T JUST ANY PARK.

3:54:35>> IT'S THE FIRST PART CAPE

3:54:36CORAL HAS EVER HAD.

3:54:37IT OPENED SEPTEMBER 7TH.

3:54:391963 BEFORE THE CITY WAS EVEN

3:54:42INCORPORATED.

3:54:43IT ALSO CAME WITH.

3:54:44CONDITIONS AND IN 1968 THE.

3:54:46ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS.

3:54:47>> GAVE.

3:54:48IT TO.

3:54:48>> LEE COUNTY TO.

3:54:49BE KEPT.

3:54:49OPEN FOR.

3:54:50>> PUBLIC RECREATION.

3:54:51IN 1971 THE.

3:54:53COUNTY TRANSFERRED.

3:54:54>> IT TO THE CITY ON THE

3:54:55CONDITION THAT IT STAY A PUBLIC

3:54:56PARK.

3:54:57SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS HAS A

3:54:59CITY ATTORNEY.

3:55:00PUT IN WRITING THAT A 99 YEAR

3:55:01PRIVATE.

3:55:01LEASE DOESN'T EVEN VIOLATE.

3:55:03THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS?

3:55:04AND EVEN THEN COULD WE.

3:55:06HAVE A THIRD.

3:55:07>> PARTY ATTORNEY REVIEW OF

3:55:08THAT SECOND THE LEASE 99 YEARS

3:55:11AT $1 A YEAR THAT.

3:55:12ISN'T A.

3:55:13>> LEASE.

3:55:14>> IT IS A GIVE AWAY.

3:55:1499 YEARS.

3:55:16>> IS.

3:55:16LONGER THAN MOST OF US WILL

3:55:17LIVE.

3:55:18>> AND $1 A YEAR COMES TO $99

3:55:20TOTAL FOR WATERFRONT LAND.

3:55:22ON BIMINI BASIN.

3:55:24NO PRIVATE.

3:55:25LANDOWNER IN THIS CITY WOULD

3:55:26SIGN.

3:55:27>> THAT DEAL.

3:55:27SO WHY ARE YOU SIGNING IT FOR

3:55:29US?

3:55:30THIRD.

3:55:31>> THE APPRAISAL THE APPRAISALS

3:55:33ON THE PROPERTIES IN THIS DEAL

3:55:35ARE EXTREMELY OUTDATED.

3:55:36AS EVERY ONE OF US NO LAND

3:55:39VALUES.

3:55:40>> IN CAPE CORAL HAS CHANGED

3:55:41DRAMATICALLY.

3:55:41SINCE THE LAST ONE.

3:55:43YOU CAN'T.

3:55:43>> KNOW WHETHER TAXPAYERS ARE

3:55:45GETTING FAIR VALUE WHEN YOUR

3:55:46NUMBERS DON'T REFLECT.

3:55:47TODAY'S MARKET.

3:55:49FOURTH.

3:55:50THE TAXES.

3:55:51>> UNDER THIS.

3:55:52DEAL THE DEVELOPER PAYS NO

3:55:53PROPERTY TAXES.

3:55:54>> FOR 15.

3:55:54YEARS SO THE PUBLIC.

3:55:56GIVES UP ITS.

3:55:57OLDEST PARK, COLLECTS.

3:55:59>> A.

3:55:59DOLLAR A YEAR IN RENT.

3:56:00AND GETS NOTHING ON THE.

3:56:01TAX ROLLS FOR.

3:56:02A DECADE AND A HALF.

3:56:03MEANWHILE, EVERY HOMEOWNER IN.

3:56:05THIS ROOM.

3:56:07PAYS EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

3:56:10WE'LL ALSO PAY FOR THE ROADS.

3:56:11POLICE, FIRE AND UTILITIES THIS

3:56:13PROJECT NEEDS FROM DAY ONE

3:56:15TONIGHT.

3:56:16>> I'M ASKING YOU.

3:56:17FOUR THINGS.

3:56:18ONE TO TABLE.

3:56:19>> THE.

3:56:20VOTE UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.

3:56:23TO GET.

3:56:24>> A.

3:56:24WRITTEN LEGAL OPINION.

3:56:25THAT IS.

3:56:25THIRD PARTY.

3:56:26ON THE DEED.

3:56:27RESTRICTIONS AND A NEW

3:56:28INDEPENDENT APPRAISAL.

3:56:30THREE BRING BACK TERMS WITH

3:56:32FAIR.

3:56:32RENT AND.

3:56:33>> NO 15 YEAR TAX.

3:56:34HOLIDAY AND FOUR.

3:56:37>> WHY.

3:56:37DID THE.

3:56:37PURCHASE PRICE DROP FROM

3:56:4226,292,325 THREE AND $25 IN THE

3:56:43NONBINDING TERM SHEET TO

3:56:4624,300,000 ON PAGE SEVEN.

3:56:48PARAGRAPH SIX OF THE

3:56:50DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALSO IN

3:56:52THE PSA.

3:56:54APPARENTLY LOSING 25 MILLION

3:56:55WASN'T ENOUGH FOR THIS

3:56:56ADMINISTRATION.

3:56:57WE LOST AN ADDITIONAL.

3:56:59NEARLY 2 MILLION.

3:57:00ON TOP OF THAT.

3:57:01THANK YOU.

3:57:13JOE.

3:57:14>> HE HAD.

3:57:14TERRY UM I CAN'T EVEN I DON'T

3:57:18EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT

3:57:20THIS MESS.

3:57:21OKAY?

3:57:21THIS IS A DISASTER AND I FOUGHT

3:57:25WITH THE JAYCEE PARK DEAL FOR

3:57:27YEARS AND WE LOST 1.4 MILLION

3:57:30BECAUSE WE DIDN'T VERIFY FUNDS

3:57:31ON A SMALL LITTLE PARK.

3:57:33NOW WE HAVE THE SAME CHARACTERS

3:57:35DOING THIS.

3:57:36OKAY, LET'S FACE IT.

3:57:37LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR

3:57:39BECAUSE I CAN GO THROUGH THIS

3:57:41DETAILED RIGHT NOW BUT MOST

3:57:43PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THINK I'M

3:57:44CRAZY AND THEY WON'T UNDERSTAND

3:57:46IT.

3:57:47HOWEVER WE.

3:57:48BOUGHT THE LAND OKAY WE BOUGHT

3:57:50THE LAND, WE PAID FOR THE LAND

3:57:52WE PAID TO CLEAR THE LAND WE

3:57:55PAID $47 MILLION LET'S SAY

3:57:58RIGHT WE CLEARED ALL THE LAND

3:58:01NOW WE'RE GOING TO BUY THE

3:58:03GARAGE BY THE WAY AND GIVE IT

3:58:04TO THEM.

3:58:05SO THE INVESTMENT IS ALREADY ON

3:58:08THE PEOPLE.

3:58:09IT IS NOT ON THE DEVELOPER.

3:58:11IT NEVER HAS BEEN AND I WANT TO

3:58:14KNOW WHERE THEY'RE COMING UP

3:58:14WITH IT BEST WHAT I CAN SEE

3:58:17FROM CURRENTLY OVER THERE IS

3:58:19CLEANING THE BEST.

3:58:20THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH

3:58:22$2 MILLION.

3:58:22WHO BUYS THAT KIND OF PROPERTY

3:58:24WITH $2 MILLION?

3:58:25I MEAN COME ON YOU CAN'T EVEN

3:58:28BUY A HOUSE TODAY WITHOUT

3:58:30PROVING FUNDS.

3:58:31WHERE IS THE PROOF OF FUNDS?

3:58:32THAT WAS OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM

3:58:34WITH JAYCEE PARK.

3:58:35THEY NEVER PROVED FUNDS.

3:58:37NOW WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM.

3:58:38ON TOP OF THAT WE'RE GIVING THE

3:58:39LAND AWAY FOR FREE.

3:58:41WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A TIFF

3:58:43.

3:58:43SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM

3:58:45ANOTHER UH, INCENTIVE BY NOT

3:58:47CHARGING THE TAXES AND WE'RE

3:58:50GOING TO HOLD THE MORTGAGE.

3:58:51AND IF ANYBODY LIVED HERE IN

3:58:542010, WHICH I DID AND RAN A

3:58:56BUSINESS WHEN THE DEVELOPER

3:58:59GOES BANKRUPT, GUESS WHO GETS

3:59:02STUCK HOLDING THE BANK?

3:59:04OH AGAIN THAT WOULD BE US.

3:59:05AND RIGHT NOW CAPE CORAL IS

3:59:08NUMBER TWO IN THE STATE OVER

3:59:10COST OVERPRICED, OVERDEVELOPED

3:59:14WORST PLACE TO LIVE.

3:59:15WE HAVE NOW MADE IT TO NUMBER

3:59:17TWO SHORT OF GORDA.

3:59:19SO LET'S NOW PUT US IN DEBT FOR

3:59:22ANOTHER BILLION YEARS.

3:59:24AND LET ME JUST MAKE IT CLEAR

3:59:25THAT JERSEY PARK YOU DO NOT

3:59:27PULL AT THESE PEOPLE'S UH,

3:59:30HEARTSTRINGS ABOUT THAT PARK.

3:59:31THE PARK IS GOING IN THIS DEAL

3:59:33BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY

3:59:34CAN GET THE WATERFRONT FOR THE

3:59:37MARINA THAT THEY WANT.

3:59:39AND YOU LIED RIGHT HERE BECAUSE

3:59:41IN THAT THING IT SAID THEY CAN

3:59:43CHANGE THE NAME.

3:59:45THEY GET.

3:59:45>> ALL THE PROFITS FROM THE

3:59:47PARK AND THEY GET TO DECIDE

3:59:49WHAT HAPPENS.

3:59:49SO DO NOT STAND HERE, MR. MASON

3:59:53AND LIE TO THE CITIZENS WHILE

3:59:55IT'S UP ON THE BOARD.

3:59:56SHAKE YOUR HEAD ALL YOU WANT.

3:59:58YOU KNOW THIS IS A DEAL, BUT

4:00:00YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO RUN FOR

4:00:01THE HILLS AFTER THE NEXT

4:00:02COUNCIL GOES AND WE'RE GOING TO

4:00:03BE STUCK WITH THIS MESS.

4:00:05THANK YOU.

4:00:09ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK,

4:00:11UH, FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON

4:00:13ORDINANCE 55 DASH 26.

4:00:17SEEING NONE.

4:00:17PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

4:00:19OPEN UP FOR ANY COUNCIL

4:00:21DISCUSSION.

4:00:22COUNCIL MEMBER STANKY.

4:00:24THANK YOU.

4:00:25>> MAYOR MARKHAM HAD A COUPLE

4:00:28QUESTIONS.

4:00:29UM, ON YOUR SLIDE FOR.

4:00:34UM.

4:00:35TAKE ME.

4:00:36>> A LITTLE TIME TO GET BACK.

4:00:37TO UH I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE THAT

4:00:38YOUR SLIDES ARE SAME NUMBERS.

4:00:39MY I THINK THEY'RE.

4:00:40VERY GOOD.

4:00:42UM, YEAH.

4:00:43THE BOAT SLIPS, UH, THAT

4:00:47REQUIRE TRANSFER.

4:00:48WHERE WHERE ARE WE THINKING

4:00:50THERE WAS GOING TO COME FROM?

4:00:52UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE

4:00:53COUNTY ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

4:00:55WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT WHAT SIZE

4:00:57OF BOAT SLIPS WE'RE TALKING

4:00:58ABOUT WHETHER THEY'RE ABS OR C

4:00:59SO IT'S YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO

4:01:00WORK WITH THE WITH THE DISTRICT

4:01:01.

4:01:02WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY

4:01:03ON THAT I'M NOT SURE YET.

4:01:05UM THAT THAT WOULD MATTER TO ME

4:01:09BASED ON WHERE THEY WILL NO

4:01:12LONGER BE AVAILABLE AND WHO IS

4:01:14AFFECTED BY THAT AND AND HOW

4:01:16THEY'RE AFFECTED.

4:01:17UH, SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT WOULD

4:01:20BE AN IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR

4:01:21ME, UH, TO BASICALLY SUPPLY

4:01:25HALF OF THAT MARINA BY TAKING

4:01:28IT AWAY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE

4:01:32GEOGRAPHICALLY IN OUR CITY.

4:01:33UH, CAN I.

4:01:34ANSWER JUST SO I LET US GET

4:01:36THAT OUT OF THE WAY.

4:01:37SO IN.

4:01:39THE MANATEE PROTECTION PLAN YOU

4:01:42ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CONSOLIDATE

4:01:44BOAT SLIPS IN A WATER BODY THAT

4:01:47HAS A HIGHER CLASSIFICATION FOR

4:01:51MANATEES.

4:01:52SO THE.

4:01:52MANATEE PROTECTION PLAN.

4:01:53IS INTENDED TO TRY TO KEEP

4:01:56BOATS AWAY FROM.

4:01:57MANATEE IMPACTS.

4:01:59WE HAVE PROPERTIES IN.

4:02:02>> THE.

4:02:02IN THE DIFFERENT ZONES THAT ARE

4:02:05ALREADY DEVELOPED.

4:02:07THAT WILL FOR EXAMPLE.

4:02:10THE HIGHEST ONE THAT.

4:02:12WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE IN THE

4:02:13CITY IS AROUND DADDY AND SERENA

4:02:15VISTA PARK.

4:02:18WE TRANSFERRED FROM DADDY TO

4:02:21THE BIMINI SQUARE PROJECT TO

4:02:23GET THAT MARINA WHICH.

4:02:24IS ALREADY DONE.

4:02:26IF IF WE'RE IF WE CAN TRANSFER

4:02:30MORE FROM THERE.

4:02:31IF WE CAN'T TRANSFER FROM A

4:02:33LOWER LEVEL WE WOULD GO TO

4:02:35SERENITY VISTA.

4:02:35THE PARK IS ALREADY DEVELOPED.

4:02:37THERE WILL NEVER BE BOATS THERE

4:02:39DUE TO THE.

4:02:39MANATEE WARM WATER CONGREGATION

4:02:41AREA.

4:02:43WE HAVE OTHER AREAS LIKE THE

4:02:45WASTEWATER PLANT.

4:02:47AND THE PUBLIC WORKS ANNEX OFF

4:02:49OF EVEREST THAT'S IN.

4:02:51>> THE RIVER.

4:02:51IF WE CAN TRANSFER FROM THERE

4:02:54WE.

4:02:54WOULD DO THAT.

4:02:55BUT WE HAVE PLACES IDENTIFIED

4:02:58THAT.

4:02:59>> WILL.

4:02:59NOT TAKE AWAY FROM ANY FUTURE

4:03:02ABILITY BECAUSE THOSE PLACES

4:03:03ARE ALREADY FULLY DEVELOPED.

4:03:05THANK YOU.

4:03:06>> OKAY THAT'S GREAT ANSWER.

4:03:08THANK YOU.

4:03:10UM UH SLIDE SIX.

4:03:15UM I GUESS I'M NOT

4:03:18UNDERSTANDING THE TRANSFER

4:03:20TRIGGER.

4:03:20UH, ACCELERATING PAYMENT TO US

4:03:24WHERE THEY SELL IT TO SOMEONE

4:03:25ELSE TO SOME DEGREE IT FEELS

4:03:28LIKE THEY'RE SELLING IT WITH NO

4:03:29MONEY DOWN.

4:03:30THEY DON'T OWN IT YET.

4:03:31THEY HAVEN'T PAID FOR IT YET

4:03:32BECAUSE THERE'S NO VERTICAL ON

4:03:34IT AND AND THEN THEY SELL IT TO

4:03:38SOMEONE ELSE AND AND THEY'VE

4:03:40NOT PAID FOR IT YET AND SO IT'S

4:03:42ALMOST LIKE BUYING FUTURES IN

4:03:43THE STOCK MARKET YOU'RE THE

4:03:46VALUE GOES UP IF IT GOES UP NOW

4:03:48SO NOW NOW.

4:03:49>> I'LL.

4:03:50BUY IT BECAUSE I KNOW I CAN GET

4:03:51MORE MONEY FOR IT WHEN I SELL

4:03:52IT.

4:03:52BUT IF I CAN'T GET MORE MONEY

4:03:53FOR IT I WON'T SELL IT.

4:03:55SO I'M NOT I'M NOT I'M NOT

4:03:58UNDERSTANDING THAT.

4:04:01SO BUT ONCE THIS DEVELOPER

4:04:04AGREEMENT IS IS SIGNED FOR THEM

4:04:06TO DO ANYTHING ON THE SITE THEY

4:04:08HAVE TO OWN THE LAND.

4:04:09SO THE PURCHASE AND SALE

4:04:11AGREEMENT WILL TRANSFER DEED TO

4:04:14BIMINI TO REDEVELOPMENT IN

4:04:16ORDER TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY

4:04:18WE WILL HOLD A MORTGAGE OF $24

4:04:22MILLION FOR THE PERIOD OF TEN

4:04:23YEARS AND WHEN THEY COME IN TO

4:04:26PULL A PERMIT ON A VERTICAL

4:04:29CONSTRUCTION THEY WILL PAY A.

4:04:30PIECE OF OR WHATEVER THEIR

4:04:33WHATEVER THEIR SHARE OF THAT

4:04:35PARTICULAR VERTICAL

4:04:36CONSTRUCTION ON A ON A SQUARE

4:04:37FOOT BASIS IS.

4:04:41SO IF THEY TURN AROUND AND SAY

4:04:43OKAY AGAIN AS I USED WHEN I

4:04:45TALKED ABOUT THIS SLIDE THAT

4:04:46THEY TURN AROUND AND THEY SAY

4:04:47WELL LOOK I'M GOING TO I'VE GOT

4:04:49AN AGREEMENT WITH A WITH A

4:04:51HOTELIER BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO

4:04:52LEASE THE PROPERTY.

4:04:53THEY FROM ME THEY WANT TO OWN

4:04:54THE PROPERTY.

4:04:56SO THE HOTELIER HASN'T PULLED A

4:04:58PERMIT THEY HAVEN'T DONE

4:04:59ANYTHING.

4:04:59HE YOU KNOW UH CROWN HASN'T

4:05:01PULLED A PERMIT BUT THEY WOULD

4:05:03TURN AROUND AND THEY WOULD SELL

4:05:04A PIECE OF THE PROPERTY TO THE

4:05:07HOTELIER AND BECAUSE OF THAT

4:05:08SALE IT WOULD TRIGGER THEM TO

4:05:12PAY US FOR THAT PARTICULAR

4:05:14PARCEL ON A ON A SQUARE FOOTAGE

4:05:17BASIS.

4:05:17SO YES, IF THEY TURN AROUND AND

4:05:19THEY AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE

4:05:20BUYING IT FROM US AT AN

4:05:22APPRAISED VALUE FOR VACANT LAND

4:05:24TODAY AND THEY TURNED AROUND

4:05:26AND SOLD IT SOLD IT FOR A

4:05:27PROFIT.

4:05:28THEY COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT.

4:05:29BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD

4:05:30TRIGGER THEM TO PAY US FOR WHAT

4:05:33THEY OWE US ASSOCIATED WITH

4:05:34THIS UH, WITH THIS TRIGGER.

4:05:37SO JUST FOR ROUND NUMBERS, UM,

4:05:4225 MILLION THAT THAT THEY OWE

4:05:43US ROUND NUMBERS 20 RIGHT.

4:05:44THAT WAS 25,000,004 YEARS FROM

4:05:47NOW, UH, THEY HAVEN'T PAID US

4:05:49FOR UM, A 10TH OF THE PROPERTY

4:05:55AND.

4:05:55UM.

4:05:56>> MARRIOTT SAYS WE'D RATHER

4:05:59OWN THE LAND THAN RENT IT FROM

4:06:00YOU.

4:06:02UM, THEY CAN SAY OKAY, GREAT.

4:06:05THAT'LL BE 25 MILLION.

4:06:08AND THEY HAVE TO GIVE US 2.5

4:06:10MILLION BECAUSE IT'S ONLY ONE

4:06:11TENTH OF THE PROPERTY.

4:06:13SO THEIR PROPORTIONATE PAYMENT

4:06:16WOULD BE THE ONE TENTH OF THE

4:06:1825 MILLION.

4:06:18YET THEY'RE CHARGING MARRIOTT

4:06:2025 MILLION FOR THE PROPERTY

4:06:21THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THE

4:06:22HOTEL.

4:06:22UM.

4:06:23.

4:06:23IF THAT WERE THE CASE AND THAT

4:06:24HAPPENED FOUR YEARS FROM NOW

4:06:25YES, THAT WAS.

4:06:26EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

4:06:29OKAY.

4:06:29>> BUT IN THE PROPOSAL THEY HAD

4:06:33PART OF THE.

4:06:34TEAM THAT WAS.

4:06:35BROUGHT TO THE TABLE IS A

4:06:38HOTELIER TO BUILD.

4:06:39THEY BROUGHT THE THIS THIS IS

4:06:41NOT A SPECULATIVE WE'RE GOING

4:06:44TO GO FIND THEM THAT THE

4:06:46PROPOSAL ITSELF HAS THE

4:06:48HOTELIER THAT IS GOING TO BUILD

4:06:51IN THE CITY IN IT OKAY.

4:06:54AND UM.

4:06:55AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE PAYMENT

4:06:57WITHIN TEN DAYS OF CLOSING.

4:06:59MOST OF THE CLOSINGS I'VE BEEN

4:07:01INVOLVED WITH EVERYTHING

4:07:03TRANSFERS ON DAY OF CLOSING.

4:07:05UM, WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT TEN

4:07:06DAYS FOR OUR MONEY?

4:07:09IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE

4:07:11IF THEY'RE TURNING AROUND AND

4:07:12THEY'RE HAVING THIS TRANSACTION

4:07:14WITH SOMEBODY ELSE, UH, YOU

4:07:16KNOW.

4:07:16THEY'D WE COULD IT SAYS WITHIN

4:07:19TEN DAYS WE COULD CERTAINLY

4:07:20TALK WITH THEM AND SAY HEY,

4:07:22JUST MAKE IT HAPPEN WITHIN THE

4:07:23DAY THAT IT HAPPENS.

4:07:24YEAH.

4:07:25>> YOU KNOW WHEN THE PROPERTY'S

4:07:26CONVEYED.

4:07:27THIS IS JUST A I MEAN IT'S A

4:07:29TIME FRAME IF THERE'S A

4:07:30CONVEYANCE.

4:07:31>> WE ALSO HAVE IF THEY HAVE A

4:07:32.

4:07:32LEASE LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS.

4:07:33SO IF THEY ENTER INTO A LEASE

4:07:35THAT'S LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS

4:07:36THEN YOU KNOW THEY HAVE A

4:07:38CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME IN ORDER

4:07:38TO PAY US FOR THAT.

4:07:40OKAY.

4:07:41>> UM PAGE EIGHT.

4:07:48THE DEMOLITION.

4:07:49ASSISTANCE THAT'S THAT'S ON A

4:07:51REIMBURSEMENT BASIS.

4:07:52YES IT IS ON A REIMBURSEMENT

4:07:54BASIS ACTUAL COST ONLY.

4:07:56OKAY.

4:07:57>> THANK YOU.

4:07:57>> AND UH, PAGE 11.

4:08:02UM.

4:08:03>> IT SO IT SEEMS LIKE THIS

4:08:06PARKING IS IS DIFFERENT THAN

4:08:07FOR INSTANCE AT THE COVE WHERE

4:08:10WE WERE WE FELT WE WERE

4:08:11BRINGING ADDITIONAL PARKING

4:08:12AVAILABLE.

4:08:13YEAH.

4:08:14WE RETAIN THE ABILITY TO SET

4:08:16PRICING, UH, FOR THOSE PARKING

4:08:18SPACES AT THE COVE AND ALLOW A

4:08:20CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FREE PARKING

4:08:21AND WHATNOT.

4:08:22THIS PARKING THAT WILL BE, UH,

4:08:24DONE AT THIS FACILITY WILL BE

4:08:26OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

4:08:27THEY'RE PERMITTED TO CHARGE,

4:08:30BUT WE HAVE NO SAY IN HOW THAT

4:08:33WORKS.

4:08:34CORRECT.

4:08:34>> WE'RE NOT GOING TO OWN THIS

4:08:37480 SPACES IN THE COVE.

4:08:38WE OWN THOSE SPACES.

4:08:40OKAY?

4:08:40WE'RE NOT GOING TO OWN THE

4:08:42SPACES HERE.

4:08:42OKAY.

4:08:43>> UM, UH.

4:08:47>> PAGE 20.

4:08:52THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL

4:08:54DILIGENCE.

4:08:55YES.

4:08:56>> UM.

4:08:57>> IT SOUNDS B BASED ON YOUR

4:09:00SECOND BULLET POINT THERE THAT

4:09:03WE, UM, HAVE NO RIGHT TO CURE.

4:09:05NO, IT JUST SAYS THAT THE BUYER

4:09:07MUST FIND THE REPORT

4:09:09SATISFACTORY IN ITS SOLE

4:09:10DISCRETION.

4:09:11IT'S THEY WOULD THEY CAN'T I

4:09:13MEAN, WE CAN'T SAY HEY, WE

4:09:15THINK THAT'S GREAT.

4:09:15IT'S ALL GOOD.

4:09:16IT'S OUR DISCRETION FOR THEM TO

4:09:18APPROVE IT.

4:09:18BUT THEY HAVE THE SOLE

4:09:20DISCRETION TO APPROVE THE

4:09:21REPORTS.

4:09:22DO WE HAVE A CURE PERIOD.

4:09:23THE ANSWER IS YES, BUT IT'S

4:09:26STILL UP TO.

4:09:27>> THEM WHETHER THEY IF NOT

4:09:27BUYER MAY TERMINATE AND RECOVER

4:09:29THE DEPOSIT.

4:09:30IF THEY DON'T AGREE TO THE

4:09:33REPORTS OR ANY CURE THAT WE DO

4:09:35THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO

4:09:37TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT.

4:09:39OKAY I NOTICE THE A NOTICE THE

4:09:42RIGHT TO CURE BEFORE.

4:09:45UM IN IN THE PREVIOUS PAGE 19

4:09:49AND IT TALKS ABOUT UH TITLE UH

4:09:51COMMITMENT AND IT SPECIFICALLY

4:09:53SAYS IN THERE THAT THE SELLER

4:09:55HAS THE RIGHT TO CURE SO FIVE

4:09:58DAY NOTICE AND 30 DAY UH CURE

4:10:01BUT WE DON'T SEE IT IN WRITING

4:10:03AS IT RELATES TO ENVIRONMENTAL

4:10:04DILIGENCE.

4:10:05AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I

4:10:06BRING THIS IS IN REGARD TO

4:10:07GEORGE'S ACQUISITION.

4:10:08SURE.

4:10:09>> OKAY.

4:10:11GEORGE'S ACQUISITION IS ON THE

4:10:13DEVELOPER.

4:10:14WE WILL NOT OWN GEORGE'S GARAGE

4:10:17.

4:10:17WE WILL NOT PURCHASE GEORGE'S

4:10:19GARAGE.

4:10:20SO FROM A FROM A FROM A TIME

4:10:23SENSE.

4:10:24THIS DOCUMENT THIS INFORMATION

4:10:27HERE ENVIRONMENTAL DUE

4:10:29DILIGENCE IS ON THE 20 ACRES

4:10:30WE'LL GEORGE'S IS NOT PART OF

4:10:34THE 20 ACRES WE OWN.

4:10:36THIS IS SOLELY ASSOCIATED WITH

4:10:37THE 20 ACRES WE CURRENTLY OWN

4:10:39THAT THEY WILL PURCHASE FROM US

4:10:43OKAY THEY GO TO PURCHASE

4:10:44GEORGE'S AND THEY DO THEIR DUE

4:10:45DILIGENCE ON GEORGE'S.

4:10:47IT'LL BE THEIR CHOICE WHETHER

4:10:49TO PURCHASE GEORGE'S OR NOT

4:10:51BASED UPON THAT DUE DILIGENCE

4:10:53AND WHETHER THERE'S ANY CURE

4:10:55PERIOD OR OTHERWISE.

4:10:56BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS THAT

4:10:58WE WON'T BE SPENDING $5.5

4:11:00MILLION UNTIL HE HAS A

4:11:01SIGNATURE ON THE DOTTED LINE

4:11:03THAT THEY'VE AGREED AND THE

4:11:04PURCHASE SALE GOES THROUGH

4:11:06FIRST.

4:11:08OKAY.

4:11:09>> AND THERE'S BEEN UH, SOME

4:11:11COMMENTS AROUND UH, THE ISSUE

4:11:13UH, OF THE SENSITIVITY OF UH

4:11:15HOW SPECIAL THE SCHOOL IS

4:11:17THERE.

4:11:18UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE

4:11:19SOME TYPE OF UH OF AN AGREEMENT

4:11:22SET UP WHERE THE SERVICES THAT

4:11:23ARE CURRENTLY BEING PROVIDED AT

4:11:25FOR FREEDOMS DURING UH, UM

4:11:30CONSTRUCTION UH WILL BE

4:11:31TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER FACILITY

4:11:32SO THAT WE WON'T HAVE A UH A

4:11:36BREAK IN SERVICE, SO TO SPEAK.

4:11:39DOES THAT INCLUDE THE SCHOOL?

4:11:40I PROBABLY WANT TO CLEAR THIS

4:11:42UP A LITTLE BIT AND CITY

4:11:43MANAGER CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO

4:11:44THIS BECAUSE HE'S BEEN WORKING

4:11:45WITH PARKS AND RECREATION ON

4:11:47THE MATTER.

4:11:47WE'RE PERMANENTLY MOVING THE

4:11:49THE SERVICES FROM THIS SITE.

4:11:52WE'VE MEANT WE ARE PUTTING

4:11:54TOGETHER A TRANSITION PLAN

4:11:55SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE

4:11:57YACHT CLUB WHERE.

4:11:57WE TOOK.

4:11:58THE ALL THE PROGRAMING THAT WAS

4:12:00AT THE TONY ROUTINE CENTER AND

4:12:02WE MOVED IT TO THE SOUTH CAPE

4:12:04UH THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OUR

4:12:06SOUTH WHERE WE HAD A

4:12:07PRESENTATION LAST WEEK.

4:12:08WE'RE MOVING ALL OF THE

4:12:10PROGRAMING IN THE FACILITY TO

4:12:11THAT FACILITY.

4:12:12THE ONLY THING THAT WE CANNOT

4:12:14MOVE TO THAT FACILITY IS THE

4:12:16DAYCARE BECAUSE IT IS NOT A

4:12:19STATE APPROVED FACILITY FOR

4:12:21THAT TYPE OF PROGRAM.

4:12:22SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR AN

4:12:24ALTERNATIVE.

4:12:25WE ARE.

4:12:26UH THERE WAS SOME STATEMENTS

4:12:28MADE TODAY ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

4:12:29LOSING THE PROGRAM.

4:12:31I HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD BY PARKS

4:12:33THAT THAT PROGRAM IS LOST.

4:12:36WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHERE

4:12:38THE NEAREST FACILITY IS FOR US

4:12:41TO CONTINUE THAT PROGRAM.

4:12:42IF WE DON'T.

4:12:43HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS CLOSE

4:12:46ENOUGH FOR THE THE FAMILY, THAT

4:12:49WILL BE A CHOICE ON THEM TO SAY

4:12:52I'M GOING TO GO TO SOME PLACE

4:12:53CLOSER.

4:12:53BUT WE ARE WORKING ON A FULL

4:12:55TRANSITION PLAN FOR THE

4:12:57PROGRAMS DOWN THERE.

4:12:59OKAY, THANKS.

4:13:00AND UM POST COMPLETION IS THERE

4:13:03IS THERE A PLAN TO MOVE THOSE

4:13:06UM, UH, PROGRAMS BACK TO FOUR

4:13:09FREEDOMS?

4:13:10NO THERE WON'T THERE WILL NOT

4:13:12BE A BUILDING THERE FOR THEM TO

4:13:13GO.

4:13:13THEY'LL BE AT THE SOUTH CAPE

4:13:15CENTER FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT

4:13:17WILL GO THERE AND WE'RE ALREADY

4:13:19STARTING THAT TRANSITION

4:13:21ALREADY.

4:13:23OKAY THANK YOU.

4:13:25MAYOR.

4:13:26COUNCIL MEMBER KAJU.

4:13:28THANK YOU MAYOR I HAVE THREE

4:13:30DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS OF NOTES

4:13:32THAT I'M WORKING OFF OF SO BEAR

4:13:33WITH ME.

4:13:34THE FIRST IS IN CITIZENS INPUT

4:13:36WE GOT ASKED WHY THE PRICE

4:13:38DROP?

4:13:39COULD YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THAT?

4:13:40UH, WHY IT WENT FROM 26 TO 24.

4:13:43UH.

4:13:44>> WE ARE.

4:13:44LEASING THE PARK NOW AS OPPOSED

4:13:46TO SELLING IT.

4:13:48OKAY.

4:13:48>> AND ALSO IN CITIZENS INPUT

4:13:51JUST TO CLEAR SOMETHING UP I

4:13:52THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION

4:13:54WHEN WE ARE REQUESTING AN

4:13:56APPRAISAL.

4:13:56MR. CITY ATTORNEY, YOU CAN

4:13:57CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

4:13:58THAT'S WHEN WE ARE PURCHASING

4:14:00THE PROPERTY.

4:14:01WE ARE NOW SELLING THE

4:14:03PROPERTY.

4:14:04CORRECT.

4:14:04>> WE AND I JUST TO CLEAR UP

4:14:07AGAIN ANY CONFUSION WE DID GET

4:14:09AN APPRAISAL ON THE PROPERTY WE

4:14:11ARE SELLING.

4:14:12UM AND THAT IS THE AGREED PRICE

4:14:13THAT WE'VE NEGOTIATED WITH THE

4:14:15DEVELOPER TO PURCHASE FOR HIM

4:14:17TO PURCHASE OUR PROPERTY FROM

4:14:20US AT THAT APPRAISED VALUE

4:14:22AGAIN WE THE CITY ARE NOT

4:14:25PURCHASING GEORGE'S AND WE ARE

4:14:26NOT PURCHASING THE TRUMBULL

4:14:27PROPERTIES AS SUCH THERE'S NO

4:14:29REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A AN

4:14:32APPRAISAL UH, THROUGH

4:14:34NEGOTIATIONS AND THROUGH THE

4:14:36DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT WE'VE

4:14:38AGREED AND IF THE APPROVE IF

4:14:41THE AGREEMENT IS APPROVED WE'VE

4:14:43AGREED TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING

4:14:46UH, FOR THAT PURCHASE AND

4:14:48WHETHER HE PAYS $6 MILLION FOR

4:14:51IT, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER.

4:14:53UH, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE $5.5

4:14:55MILLION.

4:14:57OKAY?

4:14:58>> WE'RE NOT PURCHASING IT.

4:14:59CORRECT.

4:15:00THANK YOU.

4:15:01>> WOULD WE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR

4:15:03THE REMEDIATION?

4:15:04NO.

4:15:05WE'RE NOT PURCHASING IT.

4:15:07PERFECT.

4:15:08>> WE WILL NOT OWN IT.

4:15:09AND I DID GET TO ASK THIS IN MY

4:15:10ONE ON ONE HOWEVER FOR THE

4:15:12PUBLIC TO KNOW ARE THERE ANY

4:15:14PROTECTIONS IN THE DEVELOPER'S

4:15:15AGREEMENT IF.

4:15:18WE IF.

4:15:19>> THE DEVELOPER WALKED AWAY

4:15:21AND IT WAS HALF BUILT?

4:15:24YES.

4:15:24>> A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT RUNS

4:15:26WITH THE LAND.

4:15:27IT'S LIKE.

4:15:27A IT'S LIKE A TEMPORARY YOU CAN

4:15:29CUT AN ANALOGY IT WOULD BE A

4:15:31TEMPORARY DEED RESTRICTION

4:15:32RIGHT.

4:15:33SO I I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE

4:15:36WORST CASE SCENARIO FOR US IS

4:15:39THAT THE CITY SAYS WE'RE

4:15:41KEEPING THE LAND AND IT STAYS

4:15:43TAX FREE FOREVER.

4:15:44THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.

4:15:45THEN WE PUT.

4:15:45>> A PIN IN IT RIGHT THERE.

4:15:47WHAT IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING

4:15:48HALF BUILT.

4:15:48YEAH SO.

4:15:50OKAY SO THAT'S WORST CASE

4:15:51SCENARIO ANYTHING IN BETWEEN

4:15:53THERE IS BETTER THAN WORST CASE

4:15:55SCENARIO HALF BUILT.

4:15:57SITUATION SO AND.

4:15:58AND AND SOMEBODY'S TALKING WELL

4:16:01YELLOW FEVER CREEK WAS A

4:16:02CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT

4:16:03COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANALYSIS

4:16:07SO LET ME JUST ANSWER THAT

4:16:08YELLOW FEVER CREEK WAS A

4:16:10CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.

4:16:11THERE'S A PERFORMANCE BOND THAT

4:16:12WE REQUIRE OF THE.

4:16:14CONTRACTOR WHO'S.

4:16:15>> GOING.

4:16:15TO BUILD SOMETHING FOR US.

4:16:17WE ARE STATING WE ARE GOING TO

4:16:18PAY YOU FOR SERVICES TO DELIVER

4:16:20A PRODUCT PERFECT.

4:16:21IF THEY FAIL.

4:16:23WE KICK.

4:16:24THEM OFF THE.

4:16:24JOB.

4:16:25>> WE CONTACT THE BONDING

4:16:26AGENCY, THEY COME IN AND THEY

4:16:28FINISH THE JOB.

4:16:29THAT'S EXACTLY YELLOW FEVER

4:16:31CREEK.

4:16:31BUT ON THIS YEAR WE'RE HOLDING

4:16:33THE MORTGAGE YEAR.

4:16:34IT'S A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT SO

4:16:37.

4:16:37YOU ALMOST HAVE TO GO IS.

4:16:39YOU HAVE.

4:16:39>> TO PRESUME THAT THEY

4:16:42COMPLETELY PAID THE NOTE THE

4:16:43TEN YEAR MORTGAGE CAME DUE OR

4:16:45THEY PREPAID AND THEY TOOK IT

4:16:46ALL DOWN IN YEAR FIVE THE

4:16:49DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT RUNS WITH

4:16:50THE LAND SO IT'S STILL SITTING

4:16:52OUT THERE.

4:16:53THEY GO UNDER HYPOTHETICALLY IT

4:16:59BECOMES WHOEVER WHOEVER GAVE

4:17:00THEM THE FINANCING FOR THE

4:17:03VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION

4:17:05100,000,070 MILLION THAT'S

4:17:07WHO'S GOING TO BE STEPPING IN.

4:17:08IT'LL BECOME A OTHER OWNED BANK

4:17:10ASSET THAT THEY WILL THEN SELL

4:17:13OFF.

4:17:13JUST LIKE AS SOMEBODY STATED IN

4:17:15THE AFTER THE GREAT RECESSION

4:17:17THE CITY WAS A BENEFICIARY OF

4:17:19THAT.

4:17:20WE BOUGHT.

4:17:22491 PROPERTIES, MANY OF WHICH

4:17:25YOU ALL KNOW WE'VE BEEN SELLING

4:17:26SEVEN ISLANDS AT DIRT CHEAP AND

4:17:29WE'RE PROFITING OFF IT.

4:17:31SO THEY WILL HAVE PAID US THIS

4:17:35FULL AMOUNT.

4:17:36THEY GO BELLY UP A BANK FIRE

4:17:39SELLS IT.

4:17:40THE NEXT PERSON HAS AN EVEN

4:17:41HIGHER PROFIT MARGIN THAN THIS

4:17:43TO SCOOP.

4:17:44>> UP AND.

4:17:44FINISH BECAUSE THE DA SITS.

4:17:46ON THE LAND.

4:17:47THANK YOU.

4:17:48OKAY I MEAN I GUESS WE WOULDN'T

4:17:50REALLY KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD

4:17:52TAKE TO FORECLOSE ON THE

4:17:53PROPERTY UNTIL WE'RE AT THAT

4:17:55POINT, RIGHT.

4:17:58WE WOULD FORECLOSE OR SOMEBODY

4:18:00WE'RE.

4:18:00HOLDING THE NOTE RIGHT.

4:18:01IF WE WELL WE HAVE TRIGGERS FOR

4:18:04OUR FORECLOSURE THAT WOULD BE

4:18:07AT YEAR TEN.

4:18:07YEAH AND.

4:18:08>> WE WOULD MOVE ON THAT THAT

4:18:09WOULD BE IT.

4:18:10THAT'S ONE SCENARIO.

4:18:11LISTEN I'M PRESUMING THESE

4:18:15DEVELOPED THESE DEVELOPERS THAT

4:18:17ARE HERE THAT HAVE PUT THIS

4:18:18PROPOSAL.

4:18:19FORWARD ARE.

4:18:19WELL KNOWN IN SOUTHWEST FLORIDA

4:18:21.

4:18:21SURE.

4:18:21EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE HAS

4:18:23BEEN A GAME CHANGER AND HAS

4:18:25BEEN IN GULF STORM MAGAZINE AND

4:18:27WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH A TEAM

4:18:30THAT IS NOT PROVEN.

4:18:31SO I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY

4:18:34WOULD KNOW VERY SOON WHETHER OR

4:18:36NOT THIS IS GOING TO WORK.

4:18:38THEY HAVE PUT IN THE DA A

4:18:39COUPLE OF THINGS ALREADY HAVE

4:18:41SIGNALED TO US LOOK IF WE CAN'T

4:18:43GET THE MARINA WE'RE NOT GOING

4:18:44FORWARD RIGHT?

4:18:45>> SO IF.

4:18:46THEY GET THAT AND THEN FOR SOME

4:18:48OTHER REASON I SUSPECT THEY

4:18:50WOULD BE STAND UP AND TELL US

4:18:52IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

4:18:53WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT OR

4:18:55SO.

4:18:55BUT IF.

4:18:57THEY GET IF THEY PAY US.

4:18:59WE'VE GOTTEN THE PURCHASE PRICE

4:19:00AND THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO A

4:19:02BANK TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY

4:19:04WANT TO LIQUIDATE THAT ASSET

4:19:05THAT.

4:19:05THEY THINK I AM.

4:19:06OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR.

4:19:08CITY ATTORNEY.

4:19:09I'M GOING TO NEED YOUR HELP

4:19:10HERE.

4:19:11SO IN IN ON PAGE 2 OF THE

4:19:14DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT SECTION

4:19:1627.

4:19:32IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL I THINK

4:19:33ON THE ACTUAL IT'S PAGE 21 BUT

4:19:36IN OUR BACKUP MATERIAL IS PAGE

4:19:3725 BUT IT'S SECTION 27.

4:19:44IT SAYS IF SUCH NON-MONETARY

4:19:47DEFAULT IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO CURE

4:19:49BUT CANNOT REASONABLY BE CURED

4:19:51WITHIN SUCH 60 DAYS BUSINESS

4:19:53DAY PERIOD, THEN THE DEVELOPER

4:19:54SHALL HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME AS

4:19:56IS NECESSARY TO CURE SUCH

4:19:59FAILURE AND NO EVENT OF DEFAULT

4:20:01SHALL BE DEEMED TO EXIST HERE

4:20:02UNDER SO LONG AS THE DEVELOPERS

4:20:05COMMENCES SUCH CURE WITHIN SUCH

4:20:07INITIAL 60 DAYS BUSINESS DAY

4:20:08PERIOD AND DILIGENTLY AND IN

4:20:10GOOD FAITH PURSUES SUCH CARE TO

4:20:12COMPLETION.

4:20:14SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE WORKING

4:20:16ON A CURE.

4:20:17IT'S GOING TO DEPEND.

4:20:19AND THE REASON WHY I SAY IT'S

4:20:20GOING TO DEPEND IS BECAUSE I

4:20:22DON'T.

4:20:22KNOW WHAT THE POTENTIAL DEFAULT

4:20:24WILL BE THAT WE WILL ALLEGE

4:20:26WHAT I SUSPECT IF WE GET TO

4:20:28THAT POINT.

4:20:29UH.

4:20:29>> THEY'RE GOING TO SAY HEY

4:20:31CITY THAT'S REALLY A

4:20:33NON-MONETARY.

4:20:34DEFAULT AND YOUR CURE.

4:20:35PERIOD OF SIX DAYS IS NOT GOING

4:20:38TO BE VIABLE BECAUSE WE COULD.

4:20:39BE WORKING WITH ARMY CORPS, WE

4:20:41COULD BE WORKING WITH.

4:20:43FDP.

4:20:43>> WE COULD BE WORKING.

4:20:44WITH ANOTHER ENTITY OR AN

4:20:46ORGANIZATION AND WE'RE TRYING

4:20:48TO RESOLVE THE DEFAULT.

4:20:49AND BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT IN

4:20:5160 DAYS, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY

4:20:53INVOKING THIS PROVISION,

4:20:55SEEKING ADDITIONAL TIME.

4:20:56THAT'S WHAT I ANTICIPATE AND

4:20:58THE REASON WHY I ANTICIPATE

4:20:59THAT IS I AM DEALING WITH A

4:21:02SITUATION WHERE THEY.

4:21:02>> ARE.

4:21:03LOOKING AT A MARINA AND SOME

4:21:05OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY.

4:21:06REQUIRE OTHER.

4:21:08ORGANIZATIONS AND GOVERNMENTAL

4:21:09ENTITIES.

4:21:10SO THAT'S GOING TO BE.

4:21:11KIND OF I SUSPECT MARK YOUR YOU

4:21:14WERE THERE YOU.

4:21:15SPOKE I SUSPECT THAT IS.

4:21:16THE LOGIC BEHIND.

4:21:19WHY WE DID WHAT WE DID BECAUSE

4:21:20OF THE SCOPE AND GRAVITY OF

4:21:22THIS MULTI-MILLION.

4:21:23DOLLAR PROJECT.

4:21:24OKAY.

4:21:25>> AND THEN CONTINUING ON TO

4:21:26SECTION 28.

4:21:29ALL REMEDIES ARE CIVIL JUDICIAL

4:21:32IN NATURE WITH THE CITY OR CRA

4:21:34BEING THE PLAINTIFF.

4:21:36IS THAT CORRECT?

4:21:39YOU ARE AT 28.

4:21:41YEAH.

4:21:44UH.

4:21:44>> WHAT WERE YOU READING FROM?

4:21:49>> I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE

4:21:49I'M READING.

4:21:50I'M SEEING WHATEVER YOU JUST

4:21:51READ.

4:21:51UH, SORRY.

4:21:52GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN

4:21:53TWO.

4:21:54I'M LOOKING AT 28.

4:21:56GIVE ME ONES THAT I'VE GOT.

4:21:5728 I GOT A.

4:21:59B I GOT AN INTRO PARAGRAPH.

4:22:08BECAUSE IT SAYS CITY LATER ON

4:22:10DID YOU HAVE THE RIGHT.

4:22:10UM YOU MEAN THE CITY THE RIGHT

4:22:12TO.

4:22:13TERMINATE DISAGREEMENT?

4:22:14MHM.

4:22:14>> WELL YOU.

4:22:15>> KNOW HAVEN'T THE CITY SHALL

4:22:16HAVE THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE

4:22:17THIS AGREEMENT AS LONG AS THE

4:22:19DEVELOPERS ARE IN COMPLIANCE

4:22:20WITH THEIR OBLIGATIONS UNDER

4:22:21SECTION 10.2 OF THIS AGREEMENT

4:22:23OR PAID THE ENTIRE DEFERRED

4:22:24PURCHASE PRICE TO THE CITY.

4:22:26RIGHT.

4:22:27>> SO THE NOTION BEHIND THE

4:22:30ABILITY IS NOT TO TERMINATE THE

4:22:32AGREEMENT IS BECAUSE THERE.

4:22:33>> ARE OTHER TRIGGERS THAT ARE

4:22:34IN PLAY, RIGHT?

4:22:35>> YOU DON'T NORMALLY.

4:22:36TERMINATED DEVELOPMENT.

4:22:38AGREEMENT BECAUSE OF THE

4:22:39PHASING IN APPROACH.

4:22:41AND I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK ON

4:22:43BEHALF.

4:22:43>> OF OF THE PROSPECTIVE

4:22:45DEVELOPER BUT.

4:22:46WE GOT A PHASE IN.

4:22:47APPROACH UH THAT WILL.

4:22:49TRIGGER CERTAIN OBLIGATIONS AND

4:22:50REQUIREMENTS.

4:22:51SO YOU DON'T WANT TO SIT.

4:22:52THERE AND TERMINATED.

4:22:53UM YOU KNOW.

4:22:54AS LONG AS THEY'RE IN

4:22:55COMPLIANCE AND THAT'S SOMETHING

4:22:56WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

4:22:57>> IN OTHER LONG TERM.

4:23:00SUBSTANTIAL AGREEMENTS.

4:23:01SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS

4:23:02THAT MEMORIALIZES THAT ASPECT

4:23:05IN THAT ENDEAVOR.

4:23:05UNLESS I MISSED SOMETHING.

4:23:07YOU KNOW IN THIS CASE THERE'S

4:23:09TWO SECTIONS THAT ARE

4:23:10ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SECTION

4:23:1210.2 IS THE MARINA AS WELL.

4:23:14AS THE.

4:23:16UH COMMENCEMENT OF DEVELOPMENT

4:23:18.

4:23:18WITHIN TWO YEARS.

4:23:19SO IF BOTH.

4:23:20OF THOSE.

4:23:21>> HAVE BEEN.

4:23:21>> SATISFIED, IF BOTH OF THOSE

4:23:23HAVE BEEN SATISFIED 10.2 HAS

4:23:25BEEN SATISFIED WE DON'T HAVE

4:23:27THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE THE

4:23:28AGREEMENT.

4:23:29OKAY.

4:23:29>> IF THEY'VE.

4:23:30>> PURCHASED ALL OF THE

4:23:31PROPERTY AT THE END OF TEN

4:23:32YEARS OR WITHIN THE TEN YEAR

4:23:34PERIOD, WE DO NOT HAVE THE

4:23:35RIGHT TO TERMINATE THIS

4:23:36AGREEMENT.

4:23:38.

4:23:38>> AND I WANT YOU.

4:23:39TO BEAR.

4:23:39HER QUESTION.

4:23:41I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD IT

4:23:42WAS COULD THEY PUT THE PROJECT

4:23:42ON HOLD?

4:23:43THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES BUT

4:23:46THEN THEY'RE TIFF THEY DON'T

4:23:48GET THE FULL TIFF.

4:23:48THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.

4:23:49>> YEAH SO THEIR FINANCIAL

4:23:50INCENTIVE THEIR INTERNAL RATE

4:23:52OF RETURN FOR THIS VENTURE

4:23:55DROPS EVERY YEAR THAT THEY HOLD

4:23:57THAT.

4:23:57AND THEN.

4:23:58>> DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY

4:23:59WHERE.

4:24:00>> THEY.

4:24:00LAND IN REGARDS TO PUTTING

4:24:01THAT.

4:24:01ON HOLD.

4:24:02>> WILL TRIGGER OTHER

4:24:03PROVISIONS REGARDING.

4:24:04THEIR OBLIGATIONS TO PAY US

4:24:06THAT.

4:24:06THAT MORTGAGE.

4:24:08SO THERE'S A THERE'S A FEW

4:24:10THINGS THAT ARE IN PLAY AND

4:24:12FLUID.

4:24:12IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE

4:24:13DEPENDENT UPON.

4:24:13THEM AND HOW QUICKLY THEY GET

4:24:15MOTIVATED AND MOVING TO.

4:24:17DEVELOP THIS PROJECT.

4:24:19.

4:24:20>> OKAY.

4:24:21SO UM IF A CEO IS NOT ISSUED BY

4:24:262032.

4:24:29IT GOES BACK TO THE CITY THAT'S

4:24:32CRA.

4:24:32THE CITY.

4:24:34>> NO NO THAT'S A THAT'S A

4:24:35FINANCIAL INCENTIVE SIMILAR TO

4:24:36WHAT WE HAD WITH THE THE GROVE

4:24:39WHERE WE'RE WE WE PUT LANGUAGE

4:24:41IN THERE TO PUSH.

4:24:42>> THEM TO MOVE THE.

4:24:43PROJECT FORWARD AND AS AS THEY

4:24:46DELAY THE VALUE OF THE TIFF

4:24:48THIS IS ONE WHERE.

4:24:48WE PUT THAT INTO THIS.

4:24:49>> IS ONE WHERE WE HAVE LIKE A

4:24:51.

4:24:52WATERFALL IT GOES FROM 100 TO 0

4:24:54.

4:24:56OKAY.

4:24:56>> AND DO WE HAVE UM ENOUGH

4:24:59STAFF FOR THE PERMITTING AND

4:25:01INSPECTIONS THAT WERE REQUIRED

4:25:02THAT WE WERE GOING TO, YOU KNOW

4:25:03.

4:25:03PROVIDE A WHOLE.

4:25:04LOT OF.

4:25:05>> KNOW AS I POINTED OUT TO YOU

4:25:06ALL THEY ACTUALLY.

4:25:07PAY FOR THE THE ENHANCED

4:25:09SERVICES.

4:25:10YEAH JUST.

4:25:10>> LIKE WE'VE DONE IN OTHER

4:25:12AGREEMENTS.

4:25:12YEAH IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE I

4:25:14MEAN WE WE WOULD HIRE.

4:25:15PEOPLE OR.

4:25:16OR WE WOULD CONTRACT WITH

4:25:18PEOPLE OR THEY WOULD CONTRACT

4:25:19WITH PEOPLE.

4:25:20YEAH.

4:25:21>> YES OKAY.

4:25:22AND UM I DID ASK FOR THIS I

4:25:25THINK BACK IN JULY WHEN THIS

4:25:26WAS FIRST PRESENTED TO US, YOU

4:25:28SAID THAT WHEN WE GOT TO THE

4:25:29DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT WE

4:25:30WOULD BE THAT I COULD HAVE A

4:25:32PERFORMER AND I DON'T SEE THAT

4:25:33IN OUR BACKUP MATERIAL.

4:25:36I DON'T RECALL.

4:25:37BUT I ASKED FOR THAT ON THE

4:25:39RECORD.

4:25:39PRETTY SURE I GAVE YOU ALL A

4:25:41PROFORMA.

4:25:41I THINK YOU I THINK HE

4:25:42PRESENTED IT ALREADY.

4:25:43>> YES.

4:25:44I'M PRETTY SURE I PRESENTED

4:25:45SOMETHING AT THE JULY MEETING.

4:25:47OKAY THEN WHAT'S OUR TOTAL

4:25:48OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS FOR YOUR

4:25:50ONE?

4:25:50WHERE'S THAT?

4:25:51OUR TOTAL OUT OF POCKET COST

4:25:53RIGHT NOW IS $45 MILLION.

4:25:55OKAY.

4:25:56THAT'S YOUR ONE.

4:25:56YEAH.

4:25:57SO YOU'RE.

4:25:58>> TOO YOU KNOW.

4:25:58YOU'VE WE'VE ADDED UP ALL THESE

4:26:01NUMBERS YEAR TWO I DON'T KNOW

4:26:02THEY HAVEN'T DONE.

4:26:03ANYTHING YET OKAY.

4:26:04>> YOU'RE THREE I'M NOT SURE

4:26:05THEY YOU KNOW BUT THERE'S A

4:26:07$500,000 COMMITMENT FOR IMPACT

4:26:10FEES THAT THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO

4:26:11BUT THEY HAVEN'T SPENT IT YET

4:26:12SO IT'S NOT THERE.

4:26:13SO IT'S NOT REALLY A COST TO US

4:26:15BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT

4:26:17.

4:26:17OKAY.

4:26:17>> UM ON PAGE FOUR

4:26:20COUNCILMEMBER STANKEY HAD ASKED

4:26:21A QUESTION AND UM I ACTUALLY

4:26:23WROTE IT DOWN TO KIND OF ASK

4:26:25SOMETHING SIMILAR.

4:26:26PAGE FOUR.

4:26:27YEP.

4:26:32I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS HOW THE

4:26:34REQUIRES SLIP TRANSFER OF

4:26:36APPROXIMATELY 2025 UNITS IS

4:26:37DIFFERENT FOR THIS THAN IT WAS

4:26:39FOR WHEN WE HAD THE KEARNS

4:26:40VERSUS CNB PROPOSALS IN FRONT

4:26:42OF US.

4:26:45I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

4:26:47WELL, WHEN WE WERE BEING

4:26:48PRESENTED WITH THE KEARNS

4:26:50VERSUS CNB PROPOSALS A

4:26:52DIFFERENT PROJECT WE COULDN'T

4:26:53HAVE IT.

4:26:54WE SLIPPED TRANSFERS WERE NOT A

4:26:56THING THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.

4:26:56YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T A THING

4:26:58BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T A

4:27:00NECESSITY.

4:27:01IF YOU WENT WITH THE KEARNS UH,

4:27:03ISSUE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE

4:27:04VERTICAL BOAT STORAGE THAT

4:27:07WOULD HAVE REQUIRED ADDITIONAL

4:27:08BOAT SLIPS.

4:27:09I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY SAID

4:27:11IT WASN'T POSSIBLE BUT I.

4:27:12DID I.

4:27:13>> DID I SAID I SAID IT'S IT IS

4:27:15ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE.

4:27:16BUT WE WERE ACTING AS IF IT

4:27:17WASN'T SO I WAS JUST SEEING

4:27:18THAT THIS IS IN THIS.

4:27:18SO I FOUND THAT VERY PECULIAR.

4:27:20THAT THAT ARMY CORPS PERMIT IS

4:27:23ALREADY YES.

4:27:23THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.

4:27:24IT WAS AN ARMY CORPS PERMIT.

4:27:26THERE'S A THERE'S A HUGE THIS

4:27:28SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YACHT

4:27:29CLUB AND HERE IS THIS MARINA IS

4:27:33ACTUALLY GOING TO BE

4:27:34CONSTRUCTED IN WHAT IS NOW

4:27:35UPLAND.

4:27:37SO IN THEORY THAT SEAWALL

4:27:39THAT'S THERE CAN STAY IN PLACE.

4:27:42THE UPLAND MARINA IS

4:27:44CONSTRUCTED AND THEN THE

4:27:45SEAWALL IS YOU KNOW A PIECE

4:27:47GETS KNOCKED OUT AND IT SLOWLY

4:27:48FILLS IN AND THEN THEY'RE

4:27:50REMOVED.

4:27:50YOU'RE DEALING WITH TWO

4:27:51DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONAL

4:27:53AGENCIES HERE ONE SOUTHWEST

4:27:55FLORIDA MANAGEMENT FOR UPLAND.

4:27:57ONE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

4:27:58THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP.

4:28:01PAGE NINE PLEASE.

4:28:05IT SAYS RIGHT HERE 50% OF COST

4:28:071 MILLION CITY CAP FROM CITY

4:28:09MOBILITY FEE FUNDS.

4:28:11WHY ARE WE USING MOBILITY FEES

4:28:15INSTEAD OF CRA FUNDS?

4:28:17THIS IS A PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE

4:28:19.

4:28:19THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT MOBILITY

4:28:21FEES ARE FOR OKAY.

4:28:25AND MOBILITY FEES ARE CITY

4:28:27FUNDS OR CARY FUNDS.

4:28:29THEIR MOBILITY FEES THEY'RE

4:28:32WITH THE CITY I DON'T

4:28:33UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.

4:28:34OKAY I KNOW YOU ALWAYS SAY THAT

4:28:35WHENEVER I SEE SOMETHING THAT

4:28:36YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER.

4:28:37SO, UM, CAN WE DO CAN WE DO ANY

4:28:41OTHER PROJECT?

4:28:42>> WHEN YOU.

4:28:42SAY IT'S CITY.

4:28:43FUNDS, DOES IT BELONG I MEAN

4:28:44IT'S WITHIN THE MOBILITY FEE

4:28:46IMPACT FEE FUND IF THAT'S WHAT

4:28:48YOU'RE ASKING AND YOU.

4:28:49BELONG TO.

4:28:50>> THE CRA THE ANSWER IS NO.

4:28:51THERE'S SPECIFIC AREAS THAT

4:28:53PROTECT.

4:28:54THERE'S A BENEFIT SOUTH BENEFIT

4:28:56AREA IN THE NORTH BENEFIT.

4:28:57AREA AND WE HAVE A CRA BENEFIT

4:28:58AREA RIGHT.

4:28:59THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING

4:29:00BECAUSE WHY WOULDN'T WE USE THE

4:29:02CRA.

4:29:02THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING

4:29:04TO THIS PROJECT WILL PAY

4:29:07MOBILITY FEES.

4:29:0850% THAT WILL YEAH.

4:29:10OKAY SO IF WE DO THIS CAN WE DO

4:29:13ANY OTHER PROJECTS IN THE CRA

4:29:15IF WE FUND THIS?

4:29:16THAT WAS A QUESTION FROM ONE OF

4:29:18THE SPEAKERS I DON'T KNOW WHO.

4:29:20UH WE RAN ACROSS WE WE RAN A

4:29:22PROPOSAL FOR YOU SHOWED YOU

4:29:23WHAT THE THE DEBT SERVICE WOULD

4:29:25BE AND WHAT WE THINK WILL

4:29:26HAPPEN.

4:29:27WHAT THE UH WHAT THE THE THE

4:29:30VALUE OF THE CRA OVER A PERIOD

4:29:31OF TIME THE YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE

4:29:34WOULD CERTAINLY EXPECT WITH A

4:29:35WITH A PROJECT THIS SIDE THAT

4:29:37THERE WILL BE ANCILLARY UH

4:29:39IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL CONTINUE

4:29:40TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE CRA THAT

4:29:42WILL ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THE

4:29:43CRA.

4:29:44SO THE ANSWER IS IS THAT YES,

4:29:45WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO OTHER

4:29:46THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

4:29:47OKAY.

4:29:48UH, AND YOU KNOW, ASSOCIATED

4:29:50WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I

4:29:51PROVIDED TO YOU THAT SHOWED YOU

4:29:53THE PROFORMA ASSOCIATED WITH

4:29:55THE UM, UH WITH THE TIFF WITH

4:29:58THE TIP AGREEMENT.

4:30:00OKAY.

4:30:00>> TO TO EXPAND UPON THAT THE

4:30:04CARRYING COST THAT WE HAVE

4:30:05RIGHT NOW IS COMING FROM ALL

4:30:08THE PROPERTIES IN THE CRA.

4:30:09ONCE THIS STARTS GENERATING THE

4:30:11TIFF AND THE TIFF GOES BACK TO

4:30:13THEM, IT'S THE TAXES THEY'RE

4:30:14PAYING RIGHT?

4:30:15SO THAT IT.

4:30:17IT'S NOT WORSE THAN BECAUSE AND

4:30:20I WANT TO SAY THIS FOR CHARLES

4:30:21IF HE'S WATCHING IT'S THE BUT

4:30:23FOR SCENARIO OKAY THEY'RE

4:30:25GETTING THAT 45 MILLION BUT FOR

4:30:27THEM DOING THE PROJECT IF NOT

4:30:31THEY DON'T GET IT.

4:30:32RIGHT SO.

4:30:33OKAY AND MISTER CITY ATTORNEY

4:30:35THERE WAS A SPEAKER THAT ASKED

4:30:36ABOUT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS ON

4:30:38FOUR FREEDOMS PARK.

4:30:40THOSE ARE NOT ALTERED.

4:30:41THEY REMAIN ON THE PROPERTY.

4:30:43BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CONVEYING THE

4:30:45TITLE.

4:30:46RIGHT TITLE OR INTEREST TO IT.

4:30:47IT'S A LEASE AGREEMENT SO THE

4:30:49DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE

4:30:49UNALTERED.

4:30:51OKAY I GUESS MORE THE PUBLIC.

4:30:53IS WORRIED.

4:30:53>> ABOUT THE PARK.

4:30:55ALTERING IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE

4:30:58CHANGED SO IT'S DEED RESTRICTED

4:31:00BUT HOW.

4:31:00IT'S RESTRICTED IN THE SENSE OF

4:31:03HOW.

4:31:03>> IT'S UTILIZED AND WHAT IT'S

4:31:05CALLED BUT.

4:31:06>> THERE IS NO RESTRICTION AS

4:31:07TO IT BEING REVAMPED.

4:31:10YES OKAY.

4:31:11THANK YOU.

4:31:12>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

4:31:13THANK YOU.

4:31:14>> COUNCIL MEMBER LONG.

4:31:15UH THANK YOU MAYOR.

4:31:17SO SLIDE.

4:31:18FOUR UM.

4:31:19>> WE BREAK DOWN THE SQUARE

4:31:21FOOTAGE FOR ALL THE USES EXCEPT

4:31:22THE RESIDENTIAL.

4:31:23DO WE KNOW WHAT THE SQUARE.

4:31:24FOOTAGE WOULD.

4:31:25>> BE AS FAR AS THE WHAT THAT

4:31:26EQUATES TO BY KAPPA UNITS?

4:31:28SLIDE FOUR.

4:31:30THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE

4:31:31TOTAL RESIDENTIAL ON SITE.

4:31:33YES.

4:31:34>> SO I.

4:31:34>> DON'T.

4:31:35KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

4:31:35OKAY.

4:31:36>> I JUST.

4:31:37WAS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW,

4:31:38RECTIFY THAT IN MY MIND AS FAR

4:31:39AS PROPORTIONATE TO THE

4:31:41COMMERCIAL AND THE UM OFFICE,

4:31:42CAN WE GO BACK UP REAL QUICKLY

4:31:42.

4:31:44TO WHAT?

4:31:45JUST SLIDE FOUR.

4:31:48SO 900 UNITS AND WE'VE GOT NO

4:31:50CLUE WHAT THAT COULD

4:31:51POTENTIALLY BE.

4:31:52I WOULD PRESUME IT WOULD BE

4:31:52HIGHER THAN THE THE MEDICAL AND

4:31:54THE COMMERCIAL.

4:31:56IS THAT A FAIR ASSUMPTION?

4:31:58I MEAN YOU COULD YOU COULD SAY

4:31:59EVEN AT 1000 OR 1500 SQUARE

4:32:01FOOT A UNIT YOU'RE YOU'RE 9

4:32:05MILLION.

4:32:05YEAH.

4:32:06OKAY.

4:32:06>> UM YEAH.

4:32:09THE SLIDE FIVE CAN YOU EXPLAIN

4:32:13A UH, NON-RECOURSE LOAN?

4:32:21WHAT SLIDE SLIDE.

4:32:23MY MATH WAS OFF THERE.

4:32:24JUST YEAH.

4:32:25WHAT'S THAT.

4:32:25>> A THOUSAND TIMES MY MATH WAS

4:32:28OFF.

4:32:28YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY NINE.

4:32:30>> IT'S NOT 9 MILLION.

4:32:33IT'S NOT WORKED FOR ME SO I RAN

4:32:34WITH IT.

4:32:34ALL RIGHT.

4:32:36THAT WAS TO YOUR BENEFIT?

4:32:37YEAH.

4:32:38>> I LET HIM GO.

4:32:39DOWN ON THE.

4:32:40>> OTHER SIDE OF THAT A FEW

4:32:41TIMES.

4:32:41OKAY.

4:32:42SO UM, JUST I MEAN, IT'S KIND

4:32:45OF REDUNDANT IN THE WAY IT'S

4:32:46DESCRIBED UH.

4:32:48FOR I'M SORRY I WAS NO I'M.

4:32:51LOOKING TO PULL IT UP I IT YEAH

4:32:54,IT'S PAGE FIVE SO.

4:32:59SO IT NON-RECOURSE ESSENTIALLY

4:33:01MEANS WE CAN'T GO TO A BANK IN

4:33:03ORDER TO RECOVER THE FUNDS IN

4:33:05THIS CIRCUMSTANCE WE ARE THE

4:33:06BANK WHERE WE'RE THE HOLDERS OF

4:33:07THE MORTGAGE.

4:33:08SO THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD

4:33:10RECOVER THE FUNDS IF THERE ARE

4:33:11RECOVERY OR TO TAKE BACK THE

4:33:12LAND WOULD BE THROUGH THE

4:33:14FORECLOSURE PROCESS.

4:33:16MEANING WE WOULD ONLY THE ONLY

4:33:18VALUE IN THE FORECLOSURE WOULD

4:33:19BE WHAT WE REAP FROM THE LAND.

4:33:21CORRECT?

4:33:22>> OKAY.

4:33:22WE WE.

4:33:23IF WE.

4:33:24>> TOOK THE LAND TO MAKE IT

4:33:25YEAH.

4:33:25WE CAN'T GO AFTER THE DEVELOPER

4:33:27THEMSELF FOR ANY.

4:33:27NO BREACHES OKAY THEN WE JUST

4:33:30GET THE LAND BACK.

4:33:31CORRECT OKAY.

4:33:31>> SO.

4:33:32I GUESS THAT KIND OF UM UM

4:33:34ROLLS INTO COUNCILMEMBER

4:33:35STINKY'S POINT ON SLIDE SIX

4:33:38WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSFER

4:33:39TRIGGERS AND HE HAD KIND OF

4:33:40BROUGHT IN UH, FUTURES AS A

4:33:42METAPHOR AND YOU HAD EXPLAINED

4:33:44THE MORTGAGE WE WOULD HAVE A

4:33:46YOUR AND YOUR ANSWER WAS WE'D

4:33:46HAVE A MORTGAGE FOR 24 MONTHS

4:33:49UM OR 24 MILLION I'M SORRY TEN

4:33:52YEARS CORRECT.

4:33:53BUT AGAIN THAT MORTGAGE IS ONLY

4:33:55AS GOOD AS THE VALUE OF THE

4:33:56LAND ITSELF WITH REGARDS TO

4:33:58RECOURSE ON OUR PART.

4:34:00CORRECT.

4:34:00>> IT'S THE.

4:34:01VALUE OF THE LAND THAT'S BEEN

4:34:02APPRAISED AT THE VALUE THAT

4:34:04WE'RE SELLING IT FOR TODAY.

4:34:05SO SO THE SAME THING WE JUST

4:34:07SAID BASICALLY WE HAVE A

4:34:08MORTGAGE BUT IT'S ONLY AS GOOD

4:34:09AS GETTING THE LAND BACK THAT

4:34:11WE'RE TRANSFERRING THROUGH THIS

4:34:12PROCESS.

4:34:13UM SO THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT

4:34:15POINT TO ME THAT HE HAD BROUGHT

4:34:16UP THAT I HADN'T CONSIDERED AT

4:34:17LEAST IN THE WAY THAT HE

4:34:18EXPLAINED IT UM, WHICH I GUESS

4:34:20IS A LITTLE CONCERNING FOR ME.

4:34:21I'M NOT SURE HOW WE RECTIFY IT

4:34:22BUT BUT I MEAN.

4:34:24I CAN TELL YOU HOW BECAUSE IF

4:34:26THEY DON'T HAVE A CEO ON A

4:34:28BUILDING BY 2032 THERE'S NO

4:34:30TIFF.

4:34:31YEAH YEAH THAT'S YEAH.

4:34:33BUT I MEAN SO YEAH I DON'T

4:34:34THINK THAT'S A POINT HE WAS

4:34:35MAKING IF I IF I UNDERSTOOD

4:34:36CORRECTLY WHEN HE WHEN HE

4:34:37LIKENED IT TO A FUTURES TRADE

4:34:39WHICH REALISTICALLY IT WOULD BE

4:34:40AN OPTIONS TRADE FUTURES IS

4:34:41BINDING AND OPTIONS IS A IS THE

4:34:43OPTION.

4:34:44TO MOVE FORWARD.

4:34:45THEORETICALLY WHAT THEY'RE

4:34:46DOING IS IF YOU'RE EQUATING IT

4:34:48TO OPTIONS I GUESS SINCE WE'LL

4:34:49WE'LL USE THAT METAPHOR UM IT'S

4:34:51A $250,000 OPTIONS.

4:34:55CONTRACT TO HOLD THE LAND.

4:34:57AT A VALUE OF 250,000

4:34:59ESSENTIALLY FOR NO LESS THAN

4:35:01THREE YEARS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW

4:35:02LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR THE

4:35:03DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THE TO

4:35:04COME THROUGH.

4:35:05WE'VE SEEN IT WITH UH SEVEN

4:35:07ISLANDS.

4:35:07WE'VE SEEN IT WITH THE GROVE.

4:35:08SO THEY'RE PUTTING $250,000

4:35:10DOWN AS THEIR ONLY OUTLAY.

4:35:12TO SIT ON THAT.

4:35:13LAND THEORETICALLY FOR THREE.

4:35:15YEARS THEY COULD.

4:35:16I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS

4:35:17THEIR INTENT, BUT I THINK THIS

4:35:18IS A CONCERN.

4:35:19THEY COULD SIT ON THAT PROPERTY

4:35:21FOR THREE YEARS AND ONLY HAVE

4:35:22AS FAR AS SKIN IN THE GAME

4:35:24250,000.

4:35:25SO IF THAT VALUE OF THAT

4:35:27PROPERTY INCREASES OVER THE

4:35:28NEXT THREE YEARS ABOVE AND

4:35:29BEYOND WHAT THEIR CONTRACT

4:35:30PRICE IS TO COUNCIL STANKY

4:35:32POINT, THEY COULD THEREFORE

4:35:34SELL THAT PROPERTY AND PROFIT

4:35:36OFF OF OUR BACKS WHEN WE'RE

4:35:37ALREADY HAS AS A MEANS OF

4:35:39FACILITATING THIS DEAL LOSING A

4:35:40SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON

4:35:41THE PROPERTY AS IT IS BASED ON

4:35:43WHAT WE BOUGHT VERSUS WHAT

4:35:45WE'RE TRANSFERRING NOW I

4:35:46UNDERSTAND WE'RE DOING THAT FOR

4:35:47JUSTIFIABLE REASONS AND YOU SEE

4:35:49THE THE FINANCIAL UM

4:35:52MOTIVATIONS BEHIND IT WITH WITH

4:35:54REGARDS TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

4:35:56ETC. BUT THAT REMAINS A

4:35:57SIGNIFICANT CONCERN WHEN WHEN

4:35:58AT ITS CORE IT BOILS DOWN TO A

4:36:03LEASE FOR $250,000 LEASE THAT'S

4:36:05A FULLY ASSIGNABLE.

4:36:06AND AND THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT

4:36:09WERE SAYING THIS EXACT SAME

4:36:10THING ABOUT FOREST.

4:36:11NO I KNOW AND I SO I DON'T WANT

4:36:13THIS.

4:36:13>> IS.

4:36:13NOT ANY.

4:36:14DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO.

4:36:14IT'S A TOUGH DEAL.

4:36:15BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TELL SOMEBODY

4:36:16YOU WANT 20.

4:36:18>> MILLION.

4:36:18DOWN YOU KNOW IF IT BUT IT.

4:36:19STILL PRESENTS.

4:36:20>> YOU REMEMBER THERE WERE

4:36:21PEOPLE THAT WERE COMING FORWARD

4:36:22SAYING OH YOU LET THEM CARRY

4:36:23THE LAND FOR THREE YEARS WHILE

4:36:25THEY WERE DOING PERMITTING.

4:36:26WELL TO.

4:36:27>> BE FAIR, THAT WAS A LITTLE

4:36:27BIT OF AN.

4:36:28ISSUE BECAUSE THEY DID CARRY IT

4:36:29AND ALL WE HAD LEFT AFTER THEM

4:36:31WERE HOLDING IT FOR ARGUABLY

4:36:33THE HOTTEST MARKET IN A DECADE.

4:36:35ALL'S WE HAD IS RECOURSE IF WE

4:36:37WANTED TO SHUT IT DOWN.

4:36:38>> I'M I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO

4:36:39BE NEGATIVE.

4:36:39I'M JUST SAYING OH I KNOW.

4:36:40>> BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

4:36:41THAT'S OBVIOUSLY PARODY.

4:36:42THAT'S THAT'S.

4:36:43>> THE POINT I THINK THAT'S THE

4:36:43POINT I'M MAKING IS WE'VE ALL

4:36:44HAD THAT CONVERSATION.

4:36:45WHERE FOREST ARE LIKE WELL WE

4:36:47CAN'T WALK AWAY NOW BECAUSE NOW

4:36:48THEY'VE HELD IT FOR THE HOTTEST

4:36:49MARKET THAT WE COULD HAVE PUT

4:36:50IT BACK OUT ON AND ALL WE'VE

4:36:51GOT NOW IS A MILLION BUCKS.

4:36:53UM, THAT'S NOT WHY WE MOVE

4:36:55FORWARD BUT IT WAS CERTAINLY

4:36:56SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

4:36:57SO THAT'S MY POINT AND AGAIN I

4:36:59DON'T KNOW HOW TO RECTIFY IT

4:36:59BUT BUT A CERTAINLY A VALID

4:37:01CONCERN TO COUNCIL MEMBERS

4:37:02THANK YOU THAT I HADN'T UM

4:37:04BROUGHT UP ON UH SLIDE SEVEN

4:37:07MARK THE THE 5.5 MILLION TIMES

4:37:09TO FOR THE LOTS HOW ARE WE

4:37:11FUNDING THAT WE DON'T ARE WE

4:37:12PAYING THAT CASH.

4:37:13UH WE WOULD FUND IT WITH THE

4:37:15SAME LEVEL OF.

4:37:16DEBT OKAY.

4:37:17AND IT WOULD BE REIMBURSED UH,

4:37:19BACK UH THROUGH THE SAME IN A

4:37:21LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT.

4:37:21WE HAVE.

4:37:22AVAILABLE UH, WITH THE CRA.

4:37:25SO THAT 40.

4:37:26>> WHAT.

4:37:26WAS THE YOU SAID IT ALL WERE

4:37:28ALL IN PRICE AT THE FIRST YEAR

4:37:29.

4:37:29WAS FOR.

4:37:30>> CURRENTLY IS 45 MILLION.

4:37:31SO THAT INCLUDES THE KIND OF

4:37:33THE COSTS THAT YOU'VE BROKEN

4:37:34DOWN OVER A NUMBER OF SLIDES

4:37:35LIKE THIS ONE.

4:37:36AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE

4:37:38THE DEMOLITION CREDITS AT THE

4:37:40200 K TIMES.

4:37:41THAT WOULD BE.

4:37:42IF THERE ARE NUMBERS THAT WOULD

4:37:43BE ADDED ON TOP OF THAT.

4:37:44YES BUT WE ALREADY HAVE YOU

4:37:46KNOW AS FAR.

4:37:47AS THAT.

4:37:48>> 40 SOMETHING MILLION WASN'T

4:37:48INCLUDING LIKE THE 11 HERE.

4:37:50THAT YOU.

4:37:51>> SAID NO.

4:37:52>> OKAY THAT'S CURRENTLY.

4:37:53>> THAT.

4:37:53WE.

4:37:53ARE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WAS

4:37:54WHAT.

4:37:55SEE WE BROKE IT DOWN AND I

4:37:56UNDERSTAND WHY WE'VE BROKEN IT

4:37:58DOWN SO YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT BUT

4:37:59I I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL THESE

4:38:02FIGURES ADDED TOGETHER ON A

4:38:04LINE ITEM WITH REGARDS TO.

4:38:05THE PURCHASE PRICE.

4:38:07THE 11 MILLION HERE, THE 1.6

4:38:11MILLION AND DEMOLITION CREDITS

4:38:13WHICH I UNDERSTAND ARE 200 K

4:38:14AND AN A REIMBURSABLE BUT

4:38:15THAT'S GOING TO GET MAXED.

4:38:16UH WHEN WE WE PRESENTED THAT

4:38:19DURING THE TERM SHEET BUT

4:38:20MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY

4:38:21STARTED TO ASSUME THAT THOSE

4:38:22WERE ALL THINGS THAT WE WERE

4:38:24PAYING FOR BECAUSE THEY WERE

4:38:25MISSING THE POINT OF THE TIFF

4:38:27AND THAT THE CRA.

4:38:28SO THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED MAYBE

4:38:30WE CAN TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW

4:38:32TO UM SURE.

4:38:33WELL IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT GOING

4:38:34TO GET IT TONIGHT.

4:38:34I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT FOR

4:38:35ME I WANTED TO LOOK AT LIKE THE

4:38:37MOBILITY FEE ON SLIDE NINE UH

4:38:39THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OR

4:38:40COUNCILWOMAN COULD DO COULD

4:38:41BROUGHT FORWARD WITH THE

4:38:42PEDESTRIAN.

4:38:43UM BRIDGE I MEAN THAT'S

4:38:44THEORETICALLY ANOTHER ONE 1

4:38:46MILLION I THINK AN IMPACT.

4:38:48YEAH.

4:38:48>> AND BY THE WAY I WOULD I

4:38:50WOULD.

4:38:50SUPPORT YOU SWITCHING THAT TO

4:38:52ASSESSMENTS AFTER THE THE.

4:38:54MOBILITY STUFF.

4:38:55THAT I WOULD SUPPORT YOU.

4:38:57YOU SWITCH INTO AN ASSESSED ON

4:38:58THE DEVELOPER AFTER THE AFTER.

4:39:00THE UH PRESENTATION TODAY BUT

4:39:02UM YEAH I UNDERSTAND WHAT

4:39:05YOU'RE SAYING BUT I THINK THE

4:39:06FIGURES IN TOTAL EVEN IF IT'S

4:39:08CREDITS OR FEES.

4:39:09WE DID AND SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS

4:39:11AN INTERESTING ONE FOR US

4:39:12BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE WHEN WE

4:39:13PUT THEM ALL OUT THERE PEOPLE

4:39:15JUST WENT OUT THERE AND SUMMED

4:39:17THEM ALL UP AND SAID OH THE

4:39:18CITY'S PAYING ALL THIS MONEY.

4:39:19WELL WHEN REALLY THE 45 MILLION

4:39:21IS COMING FOR THEM AND

4:39:22COMPLETELY MISSED AGAIN FOR THE

4:39:24SECOND TIME FOR CHARLES MISSED

4:39:25THE BUT FOR CASE THE BUT FOR

4:39:28ANALYSIS SURE SO IT'S NOT BONA

4:39:30FIDE COSTS THAT WE'RE INCURRING

4:39:32IT DOESN'T EVEN HAPPEN UNLESS

4:39:34THIS GETS BUILT AND THESE DON'T

4:39:37HAPPEN UNLESS THIS GETS BUILT

4:39:38OKAY.

4:39:40APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION.

4:39:41YEAH FOR ME THE BIG HANG UP UM

4:39:43AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE RECTIFY

4:39:44IT AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE

4:39:45SAME I THINK IT'S SORT OF A

4:39:46MARKET STANDARD.

4:39:47IT MAYBE FLUCTUATES A LITTLE

4:39:48BIT, BUT THAT 250,000 OVER.

4:39:50WHAT COULD.

4:39:51>> BE A THREE YEAR OLD IS IS A

4:39:53TOUGH ONE.

4:39:54BUT UM I'LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT

4:39:55MY MY PEERS HAVE TO SAY.

4:39:56THANK YOU.

4:39:57COUNCILMEMBER LEHMAN.

4:39:59YEAH.

4:40:00>> UM, MR. MASON, GO TO SLIDE

4:40:0311 FOR ME, PLEASE.

4:40:06UH, THAT BOTTOM LINE THEY

4:40:11RETAIN THE MARINA MOORING

4:40:14BANDSHELL AND PARKING REVENUES

4:40:16INCLUDING NAMING RIGHTS.

4:40:18NOW IF THE BAND SHELL IS SET

4:40:20FOR FREEDOM PARK.

4:40:23YOU THEY CAN.

4:40:24RENAME THAT.

4:40:25>> WHOLE THING.

4:40:26THEY COULD NOT RENAME FOR

4:40:27FREEDOM'S PARK.

4:40:29IT WILL FOREVER BE KNOWN AS

4:40:31FOUR FREEDOMS.

4:40:32I UNDERSTAND THEY.

4:40:33>> CAN.

4:40:34PUT A NAME ON THE BAND SHELL IF

4:40:35THEY ELECT TO, BUT FOUR

4:40:38FREEDOMS PARK WILL ALWAYS BE

4:40:39FOUR.

4:40:39FREEDOMS PARK SHELL.

4:40:41YES OKAY.

4:40:42THANK YOU.

4:40:43YOU'RE WELCOME.

4:40:44THANK YOU.

4:40:45COUNCIL MEMBER LASTER.

4:40:48THANK YOU MAYOR I WANT TO

4:40:49PREFACE THIS ALL BY SAYING I

4:40:50THINK THIS IS A REALLY UM GREAT

4:40:55I'M VERY PROUD THAT THIS

4:40:56DEVELOPER'S INTERESTED IN OUR

4:40:58CITY AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT

4:41:00OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SAY I

4:41:02MEAN WHAT WE SAY AND SAY WHAT

4:41:03WE DO WHICH IS YOU KNOW, FLIP

4:41:05FLOP OUR TAX BASE INCREASE

4:41:07COMMERCIAL TAX BASE.

4:41:09I DO THINK WE HAVE SOME

4:41:10QUESTIONS MAYBE THAT HAVE NOT

4:41:12BEEN ANSWERED AND MAYBE WE NEED

4:41:13A LITTLE MORE TIME TO GET THEM

4:41:15ANSWERED.

4:41:16SO FOR EXAMPLE IF OUR SLIPS

4:41:18HAVEN'T BEEN DETERMINED THE

4:41:19PARKING COSTS YOU KNOW TO ME

4:41:21I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH

4:41:22A NOT TO EXCEED RATE BECAUSE I

4:41:24FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW WE WE NEED

4:41:27TO HAVE THAT IN FOR THOSE

4:41:29PARKING COSTS.

4:41:29I JUST I MEAN I KNOW RESIDENTS

4:41:31ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.

4:41:32YOU KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO.

4:41:33>> PAY FOR PARKING.

4:41:34YES EVERYBODY PAYS FOR PARKING.

4:41:35WE'RE LIKE THE LAST CITY THAT

4:41:37DOESN'T PROBABLY.

4:41:38NOBODY HAS TO PARK IN THOSE

4:41:40GARAGES, OKAY?

4:41:41THEY CAN PARK IN ALL OF OUR

4:41:43OTHER CITY PARKING LOTS AND ON

4:41:44ALL OF OUR OTHER STREETS.

4:41:46OKAY, IF YOU WANT TO PARK

4:41:48INSIDE THAT DEVELOPMENT THEN

4:41:50YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT.

4:41:51BUT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO

4:41:53USE THOSE GARAGES.

4:41:54SO YOU DON'T FEEL IT'S

4:41:55PERTINENT FOR US TO SET A NOT

4:41:57TO EXCEED.

4:41:57RIGHT?

4:41:58I MEAN I GUESS WE DON'T OWN

4:41:59YOUR TRUCK.

4:41:59YOU'RE TRYING TO RESTRICT THE

4:42:01PROFITABILITY OF OF A DEVELOPER

4:42:03WHO'S INVESTING UNDER THE

4:42:05BUILDING THE GARAGE.

4:42:06OKAY.

4:42:07>> AND THEN UM IT'S MY

4:42:09UNDERSTANDING TO MANY MANY OF

4:42:11THE PUBLIC HAS QUESTIONED UH,

4:42:13THE VALUE THE COST.

4:42:14>> WHAT.

4:42:15WE PAID FOR FOR THESE

4:42:16PROPERTIES MEANING THEY'RE NOT

4:42:17WORTH IT.

4:42:18BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING I

4:42:19LEARNED TODAY, UM, THAT NOT

4:42:22ONLY ARE WE PURCHASING THE

4:42:24PROPERTIES BUT IN THAT VALUE

4:42:26ARE THERE BOOK OF BUSINESSES.

4:42:27CORRECT.

4:42:27SO THAT MAKES IT GO UP.

4:42:29SO IN OTHER WORDS IF IT'S 2

4:42:32MILLION BECAUSE THEY HAVE THESE

4:42:33INCREDIBLE BOOK OF BUSINESSES

4:42:34WE GOT TO PAY FOR THOSE TWO.

4:42:35SO THAT'S ANOTHER 3 MILLION

4:42:37MAYBE RIGHT.

4:42:37IT COULD BE.

4:42:38OKAY I'M.

4:42:39JUST I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.

4:42:40YES IT COULD BE.

4:42:41BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW PEOPLE

4:42:43ARE.

4:42:43LIKE WHAT ARE YOU CRAZY?

4:42:44BUT THEY DON'T MAYBE THERE'S

4:42:46SOME CONFUSION AND THEY DON'T

4:42:47SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE.

4:42:48SO I DID ASK THAT QUESTION

4:42:50EARLIER AND FOUND OUT THAT WE

4:42:52ARE PURCHASING THE BOOK OF

4:42:54BUSINESSES IN ADDITION TO THE

4:42:55PROPERTY.

4:42:56OKAY.

4:42:56>> RIGHT.

4:42:57>> YOU'RE NOT JUST WE'RE NOT.

4:42:58PURCHASING THE BUSINESS.

4:42:59>> I MEAN I'M SORRY.

4:43:00OKAY.

4:43:00YES I GOT IT.

4:43:01WE'RE PROVIDING THE.

4:43:02DEVELOPER FOR YEAH.

4:43:02THROUGH AN.

4:43:03>> AGREEMENT THE FUNDS TO DO SO

4:43:05OKAY.

4:43:06AND THEN UM, UH I DON'T KNOW.

4:43:11I THINK I'D JUST FEEL BETTER IF

4:43:12WE HAD HAD A PROFORMA.

4:43:14UM.

4:43:15I I'VE PROVIDED YOU ALL ONE.

4:43:17I REMEMBER.

4:43:18>> AND IN THE JULY.

4:43:19RIGHT I.

4:43:20>> DIDN'T I SHOULD HAVE IF I.

4:43:21>> HAD KNOWN THAT I NEEDED TO

4:43:22PUT ANOTHER ONE IN HERE I WOULD

4:43:23.

4:43:24I SHOULD HAVE.

4:43:24CERTAINLY SEND YOU ALL ONE

4:43:26TOMORROW IF NECESSARY.

4:43:27UNDERSTOOD.

4:43:28>> I CAN FIND IT.

4:43:28IT'S NO NO WORRIES ON THAT.

4:43:30I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT

4:43:32AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE PARK

4:43:33YOU KNOW FOLKS ARE REALLY

4:43:34REALLY CONCERNED OBVIOUSLY THAT

4:43:37YOU.

4:43:37KNOW THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO GO

4:43:38AWAY BUT I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER

4:43:41OPTION FOR THAT.

4:43:42SO THANK YOU UM FOR SAYING THAT

4:43:44EARLIER MR. CITY MANAGER.

4:43:45UM AND THEN UH YOU KNOW THE

4:43:48PARK IT WILL BE REDONE, IT WILL

4:43:50BE A REFURBISHED PARK AND WILL

4:43:53STILL OWN ONE ACRE OF IT.

4:43:54CORRECT.

4:43:55OKAY.

4:43:56>> SO WE'RE LEASING FOR FREE TO

4:43:59US PARK FOR FREEDOM'S PARK WILL

4:44:01REMAIN FOR FREEDOM'S PARK IT

4:44:02WILL BE ALTERED RIGHT.

4:44:04>> BUT IT.

4:44:05>> WILL STILL BE A PARK.

4:44:06OKAY UNDERSTOOD I JUST.

4:44:07WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE

4:44:08ANOTHER ACRE OF LAND WITHIN THE

4:44:1220 ACRES THAT WE OWN.

4:44:14MHM.

4:44:15>> THAT WILL BE A PARK THAT

4:44:17WILL HAVE TWO TENNIS COURTS AS

4:44:18WELL AS UH YOU KNOW A

4:44:19PLAYGROUND.

4:44:20RIGHT WITHIN IT.

4:44:21RIGHT.

4:44:22AND WE UM I WANT TO AGAIN SAY

4:44:24THIS AGAIN I THINK COUNCIL

4:44:26MEMBERS THANK YOU BROUGHT THIS

4:44:28UP AND I WAS REALLY GRATEFUL HE

4:44:29DID ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL

4:44:31IMPACT AND BECAUSE YOU STATED

4:44:32WE'RE NOT GOING TO OWN THAT

4:44:33PROPERTY THEN IT WON'T BE ON

4:44:35US.

4:44:35IT WILL BE ON THE PROPERTY

4:44:37OWNER TO HANDLE THE

4:44:38ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IF ANY

4:44:39FROM GEORGE'S.

4:44:40CORRECT OKAY.

4:44:41JUST CLARIFYING.

4:44:42THANK YOU.

4:44:43MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER DULL NO.

4:44:46AND THAT WANT TO GO OVER YOU

4:44:48GUYS BUT COUNCILMAN LOGAN THANK

4:44:49YOU.

4:44:50THAT WAS ONE OF THE PIECES I

4:44:51HAD.

4:44:51IT WAS CLEAR BUT I WANTED TO

4:44:53MAKE SURE ON THIS SLIDE THOUGH

4:44:55WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT UP TO 25%

4:44:57OF THOSE BOATS RENTALS WILL

4:44:59THAT COME FROM THE PUBLIC PIECE

4:45:01OF THAT 50%?

4:45:02NO FROM THAT WILL COME FROM

4:45:03THEIR PIECE.

4:45:04NO.

4:45:04>> IT JUST TAKE 100% OF ALL THE

4:45:06SLIPS OUT OF 50 SLIPS 5025 OF

4:45:10THEM WILL.

4:45:10BE THE.

4:45:1150% AND THEN 25 OR UH 12 OF

4:45:15THEM WILL BE OKAY.

4:45:16YOU KNOW, OF THE 25%.

4:45:18I'M WITH YOU AND UM THERE'S

4:45:20JUST NO WAY AROUND IT.

4:45:21AND THAT'S THAT'S.

4:45:22AN UP.

4:45:22TO RIGHT AND IS.

4:45:24RUN IF THEY ONLY RUN ONE FERRY

4:45:26TO FORT MYERS BEACH AND ONE

4:45:28FERRY TO SANIBEL THEN THEY ONLY

4:45:29NEED TWO BUT THEY HAVE THE

4:45:32ELIGIBILITY TO GO UP TO THAT.

4:45:33YEAH I MEAN THE DEVELOPER WILL

4:45:35HAVE TO MAKE THOSE

4:45:37DETERMINATIONS WHEN THEY'VE

4:45:37ACTUALLY GOT IT BUILT AND THEY

4:45:38GET THE YOU KNOW AND UNDERSTAND

4:45:39WHAT THE.

4:45:41THE NEED WILL.

4:45:42BE BUT THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO

4:45:43YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A HOTEL

4:45:44DOWN THERE AND PEOPLE WANT TO

4:45:46BE ABLE TO RENT A BOAT FOR A

4:45:48DAY, THEY'LL HAVE BOAT RENTALS

4:45:50AVAILABLE ON SITE TO DO THAT.

4:45:51YEAH.

4:45:51>> FAIR AND I I THINK.

4:45:53ONE THING THAT GIVES ME A LEVEL

4:45:55OF COMFORT IS THE FACT THAT THE

4:45:56DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY DONE SOME

4:45:58WORK SO THIS PROJECT FOR US AND

4:46:00THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD GOOD FOR

4:46:02THE CITY.

4:46:02SO I THINK THEY WOULD BE

4:46:04MOTIVATED ENOUGH TO CARRY THIS

4:46:05OUT BUT THERE'S JUST NO WAY I

4:46:06DON'T THINK WE COULD CODIFY FOR

4:46:08TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE

4:46:10HAVE THERE.

4:46:10OH THAT THEY WON'T DO SOMETHING

4:46:12ON THE MARKET BUT I'M VERY

4:46:14ENCOURAGED WITH THAT.

4:46:15THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY THAT

4:46:16THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THOUGH

4:46:17IS THE ISSUE ABOUT WELL BECAUSE

4:46:20FIVE OF US WALKED UP IN THAT

4:46:22REMEMBER IT WAS LIKE WELL THE

4:46:23OTHER PART PIECE IT WAS A PUSH

4:46:26TO GET IT THROUGH BEFORE THE

4:46:28OTHER COUNCIL AND THAT'S WHEN

4:46:29WE CAME UP HERE WITH JC.

4:46:31SO THE PURPOSE FOR NOW TO MOVE

4:46:35THIS.

4:46:36PIECE FORWARD DURING THE TIME

4:46:39UH AND HOW UM HOW DOES THE HOW

4:46:42DO WE MITIGATE THAT PIECE IS

4:46:44OUT THERE LIKE WE JUST TRYING

4:46:45TO READ SOMETHING THROUGH FOR

4:46:46ME THE DATA IS CLEAR I'M

4:46:48UNDERSTANDING IT BUT HOW WOULD

4:46:49WE ARTICULATE BECAUSE FOR YOU

4:46:51THIS STOP JUST THOUGHT FOR THE

4:46:52NEW COUNCIL THOUGH IT WON'T RUN

4:46:53INTO THE JC PARK ISSUE FOR ME

4:46:55THIS IS APPLES AND ORANGES BUT

4:46:57HOW DO WE ARTICULATE THAT?

4:46:58UM THAT NO THE TIMING IS HERE

4:47:01BECAUSE THE DATA SUPPORTS IT.

4:47:03I DID NOT KNOW IF YOU ALL HAD

4:47:04ANY OTHER TALKING POINTS TO

4:47:06ADDRESS.

4:47:07OKAY HERE WE GO WITH JASON PARK

4:47:09AGAIN.

4:47:09WE'RE AT THE.

4:47:10CONCLUSION WE'VE CONCLUDED

4:47:12NEGOTIATIONS.

4:47:12THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON.

4:47:14WE'RE HEADING INTO NOVEMBER

4:47:16WILL BE A YEAR.

4:47:17SO JUST LIKE CORAL GROVE JUST

4:47:20LIKE SEVEN ISLANDS THESE THINGS

4:47:22TAKE 8 TO 9 MONTHS.

4:47:24SO THAT'S WHY WHEN WE WERE DONE

4:47:25WE BROUGHT YOU THE TURN SHEET.

4:47:27CHECK THE.

4:47:28PULSE.

4:47:28>> IDENTIFY THE HARDSHIPS WE

4:47:30GOT THOSE WE'VE ADDRESSED THEM

4:47:32HERE BUT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE

4:47:33FOR US TO NEGOTIATE.

4:47:35WE'RE DONE.

4:47:36.

4:47:37>> SO REALISTICALLY JUST PUT IT

4:47:38OUT THERE.

4:47:39THE ONLY THING THAT COULD

4:47:40POSSIBLY HAPPEN WITH A QUOTE

4:47:41UNQUOTE NEW COUNCIL WILL BE TO

4:47:43JUST STOP THE PROJECT PERIOD.

4:47:45RIGHT?

4:47:45THERE WILL BE NO ALTERNATIVE.

4:47:47I CANNOT PREDICT WHAT WILL

4:47:48HAPPEN IF THERE ARE A NEW

4:47:50PEOPLE UP HERE.

4:47:51I KNOW THAT FOR US FOR US.

4:47:53WE WE WE.

4:47:55CONCLUDED NEGOTIATIONS, WE'VE

4:47:57DRAFTED OUT THE AGREEMENT AND

4:47:59WE'RE BOTH ON BOARD WITH THE

4:48:00WITH THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT

4:48:02.

4:48:02SO WE'VE BROUGHT THEM TO THE

4:48:03CITY COUNCIL.

4:48:04>> I JUST WANTED US TO ADDRESS

4:48:05IT AS A COUNCIL SPEAK TO IT

4:48:07BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GETTING THAT

4:48:08.

4:48:08BUT EVERYTHING POINTS TO THE

4:48:10DATA CERTAINLY POINTS TO US

4:48:12FINISHING THIS OUT IN THE TIME

4:48:13I IT'S.

4:48:15IT'S THERE WAS A PUBLIC

4:48:17DISCUSSION MANY MANY MONTHS AGO

4:48:20REGARDING NORTH THREE SAYING

4:48:22HEY IF WE'RE GOING TO FINISH

4:48:23THIS THIS IS THE TIMELINE OR

4:48:25TWO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD

4:48:26A SPECIAL MEETING.

4:48:27WHEN WE STARTED NEGOTIATIONS A

4:48:29YEAR AGO WE DON'T NEED WE

4:48:31DIDN'T NEED TO REQUEST THE

4:48:33SPECIAL MEETING.

4:48:33WE WERE CONFIDENT WE WERE GOING

4:48:34TO BE DONE.

4:48:35I MEAN IT'S AND THAT'S WHERE

4:48:36WE'RE AT.

4:48:37THANK YOU I JUST WANTED TO PUT

4:48:39THAT IN THE ATMOSPHERE SO YOU

4:48:40KNOW TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY

4:48:41AND WE'LL TAKE THE BULLETS FOR

4:48:43BUT IT MAKES SENSE.

4:48:44THANK YOU.

4:48:44THAT'S ALL.

4:48:46.

4:48:47>> UH COUNCIL MEMBER KIERAN I

4:48:48DON'T THINK YOU'VE SPOKEN YET.

4:48:48NOW THERE WAS JUST A COUPLE

4:48:50THINGS.

4:48:51UM, I JUST WANT TO REFLECT UPON

4:48:53WHY WE WERE IN THIS, UH,

4:48:56DISCUSSION TONIGHT IS BECAUSE

4:48:58RESIDENTS ARE PAYING 90% 92%

4:49:01WERE TAXES AND WE GOT TO TRACK

4:49:03COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE

4:49:06CRA IS THE MECHANISM THROUGH

4:49:08WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT

4:49:09IN A FACILITATED MANNER THAT

4:49:12TAKES CARE OF THAT INITIAL

4:49:14INVESTMENT RESTRICTION, THAT

4:49:16HURDLE MONEY THAT NEEDED TO GET

4:49:18ALL WHATEVER WE HAVE THERE TO

4:49:20BE ABLE TO BRING SOMETHING NEW

4:49:22IN OUR MISSION IS TO TRY AND

4:49:25ATTRACT DEVELOPERS HERE AND

4:49:26THEY HAVE A LOT OF PLACES TO

4:49:28GO, A LOT OF CHOICES THEY CAN

4:49:29MAKE.

4:49:30WE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT

4:49:32PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE

4:49:34RECEPTIVE TO THAT AND THAT

4:49:36THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE

4:49:38AND YOU'RE WILLING TO SUPPORT

4:49:40AND FACILITATE THAT.

4:49:41THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE

4:49:43CRA MECHANISM.

4:49:44UH, TO THAT END, I THINK THAT

4:49:46WE WE'VE UH LOOKED AT THE

4:49:50BACKGROUNDS OF THESE DEVELOPERS

4:49:52AND THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE.

4:49:53THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL IN AT LEAST

4:49:56TWO STATES THAT I KNOW THEY'VE

4:49:59DONE IT HERE IN THE CAPE

4:50:00ALREADY ONE TIME.

4:50:02UH, SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH

4:50:04THAT AND AND THE THE PROCESS

4:50:06WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW

4:50:08AND I ALMOST FEEL LIKE

4:50:09APOLOGIZING TO THEM OUT HERE

4:50:11FOR BUT BUT IT'S PART OF THE

4:50:13PROCESS IF YOU I HOPE YOU

4:50:14UNDERSTAND THAT UH, IT'S

4:50:15IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE

4:50:16THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH,

4:50:19EDUCATE THE RESIDENTS AND

4:50:21OURSELVES ON ALL THE

4:50:24RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS AND ARE

4:50:25CLEAR IN THAT SHOULD WE START

4:50:27BRINGING EVERYONE ALONG?

4:50:28UM, I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT

4:50:30DID READ THE WHOLE CONTRACT.

4:50:33UH, AND UH BASICALLY UH I HAD A

4:50:36LOT OF QUESTIONS IN MOTION WERE

4:50:38ANSWERED UP HERE TONIGHT SO I'M

4:50:39NOT GOING TO GET INTO ANY MORE

4:50:41DETAIL ON IT.

4:50:42BUT UH, CITY MANAGER, DO YOU

4:50:44WANT TO JUST MENTION WHAT THE

4:50:45NET PRESENT VALUE OF THIS THING

4:50:46IS IS AS YOU CALCULATE IT AND I

4:50:49CALCULATE INDEPENDENTLY?

4:50:51WELL, THERE'S SEVERAL SEVERAL

4:50:53DIFFERENT UH, ANALYSIS ANALYZES

4:50:56THAT WERE COMPLETED.

4:50:57UM, ONE OF THEM WAS UH RESULT

4:51:00OF A QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED

4:51:01ABOUT OKAY.

4:51:02IF THE IF WE HAD FROZE THE TIFF

4:51:05BECAUSE THERE WAS THERE WERE

4:51:07PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC SAYING

4:51:09WERE SUBSIDIES CRA SUBSIDIZING

4:51:11.

4:51:11YOU KNOW OR THE THE GENERAL

4:51:14FUND IS SUBSIDIZING THE CRA.

4:51:15SO IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS WHAT

4:51:17YOU LOOK AT YOU COMPARE IS IF

4:51:19THE IF THE TIFF WAS FROZEN AND

4:51:23IT HAD GROWN INCREMENTALLY 3% A

4:51:26YEAR AND EVEN NO COMMERCIAL CAN

4:51:29GROW UP TO 10%, IT'S

4:51:30HISTORICALLY GONE ABOUT THREE

4:51:31SO IT TRENDS ABOUT 3% GROWTH.

4:51:35BETWEEN NOW AND 2042.

4:51:37THE END OF THE TIFF AGREEMENT.

4:51:39WE WE.

4:51:40WOULD HAVE FOREGONE $283,000.

4:51:45IN AD VALOREM REVENUES INTO THE

4:51:47GENERAL FUND.

4:51:48THAT THAT'S.

4:51:49WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

4:51:52THE THE ISSUE HERE THAT

4:51:54EVERYBODY OVERLOOKS OR DOESN'T

4:51:57KNOW HOW TO BRING INTO THE

4:51:59PICTURE.

4:51:59SO WHEN SOMEBODY SAID WELL ADD

4:52:01UP ALL THE EXPENSES WELL THAT'S

4:52:04FINE.

4:52:04BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OF

4:52:07THE REVENUES THAT WE GET FROM A

4:52:08PROJECT LIKE THIS.

4:52:09AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF

4:52:11THE REVENUES OVER THAT SAME

4:52:14TIME PERIOD WE BRING IN TO THE

4:52:17CITY'S GENERAL FUND TO THE TO

4:52:19THE CITY 22.6 MILLION.

4:52:23SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOREGOING

4:52:27283,000 FOR A $22.6 MILLION

4:52:31INFLUX.

4:52:31IT'S AN 80 X MULTIPLE.

4:52:33AND WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM

4:52:35HALF CENT SALES TAX FROM ALL

4:52:37THE RETAILS TANGIBLE PERSONAL

4:52:40PROPERTY TAXES THAT ARE ON ALL

4:52:41THE BUSINESSES THAT GO IN THEIR

4:52:43PUBLIC SERVICE TAXES ON ALL THE

4:52:45ELECTRIC THAT COMES IN

4:52:47FRANCHISE FEES, HALF CENT SALES

4:52:49TAX FROM THE TOURIST TDC

4:52:52COMMUNICATION SERVICE TAXES AND

4:52:54BEATERS YOU BRING IN ALL OF

4:52:57THOSE AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS

4:52:58THAT ARE IN THIS PROGRAM AND

4:53:01BASED ON WHAT WE SEE ACROSS THE

4:53:03CITY.

4:53:03AT FULL BUILDOUT WHICH IS

4:53:07ASSUMED TO BE MUCH SOONER THAN

4:53:09YOU KNOW, HAPPENING AT THE END

4:53:10OF THE TIFF BECAUSE THEY HAVE

4:53:12TO GENERATE TIFF TO GET THEIR

4:53:13THAT BACK.

4:53:14YOU'RE BRINGING IN OVER

4:53:19$965,000 A YEAR INTO THE CITY.

4:53:22SO THE CRA.

4:53:23IS GIVING THEM BACK THEIR 95%

4:53:27TIFF.

4:53:27BUT ALSO THE CITY IS GETTING A

4:53:29ARE WILL BE GETTING A MILLION

4:53:31NEAR $1 MILLION A YEAR FROM THE

4:53:34CRA CATALYZING THAT DEVELOPMENT

4:53:40283,000.

4:53:41CUMULATIVE COMPARED TO 965.

4:53:45PER YEAR.

4:53:46EVERY YEAR.

4:53:47AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT YOU

4:53:48HAVE THE ONE TIME HITS OF

4:53:49IMPACT FEES UH MATERIAL SALES

4:53:53TAX PURCHASES AND ALL THE GOODS

4:53:54THAT GO INTO THEIR UM IT THE

4:53:58ANALYSIS HERE IS WAY MORE

4:54:00COMPLEX THAN JUST SHOW ME WHAT.

4:54:01THE EXPENSE.

4:54:02TOTAL IS.

4:54:02>> THERE'S ALL KINDS OF

4:54:05REVENUES THAT COME TO US AND

4:54:07THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON THAT A

4:54:08CR THE CRAS ARE LOOKING AT.

4:54:10SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE ANALYSIS.

4:54:13ANOTHER ONE IS TO LOOK AT

4:54:16BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY

4:54:18SHARE.

4:54:19SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A JOINT

4:54:21VENTURE LIKE THIS.

4:54:22PRIVATE OR YOU KNOW PRIVATE

4:54:25EQUITY THERE'S A J CURVE

4:54:27ANALYSIS THE FIRST FEW YEARS OF

4:54:30THE OF THE PROJECT ARE A SINK

4:54:33YOU'RE PUTTING MONEY IN AND

4:54:35YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TAIL END.

4:54:36CASH OUT.

4:54:37THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A CRA IS

4:54:40TO FLATLINE OR MINIMIZE THAT

4:54:44INVESTMENT LOSS IN THE FIRST

4:54:45FEW YEARS FOR THE PRIVATE

4:54:47SECTOR.

4:54:48SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING OH WELL

4:54:50WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRIVATE

4:54:51SECTOR THAT MAY THEY MAY TURN

4:54:53AROUND AND SELL THIS AND THEY

4:54:54MAY DO THIS THEY MAY DO THAT.

4:54:55OUR DA IS ALL WE CARE ABOUT

4:54:58HERE.

4:54:59IF THEY FIND A WAY TO

4:55:01CAPITALIZE MORE.

4:55:03LET THEM.

4:55:04>> DO IT.

4:55:04THE WHOLE POINT THAT WE'RE

4:55:05TRYING TO DO IS GET THIS DA

4:55:07DONE SO THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT

4:55:09RESTRICTION GOES WITH THE LAND

4:55:12SOMEONE'S GOING TO BUILD IT AND

4:55:13THEN THIS BECOMES A REALITY.

4:55:17IF THEY YOU KNOW.

4:55:19I DON'T THINK THEY'RE IN IT FOR

4:55:20A PRIVATE I DON'T THINK FORREST

4:55:21WAS IN IT TO FLIP IT EITHER BUT

4:55:23.

4:55:24IS THAT.

4:55:24>> A POSSIBILITY?

4:55:25YES BUT NOT FOR AGAIN CHARLES

4:55:28NOT FOR THIS CRA PUTTING MONEY

4:55:32INTO.

4:55:32INTO IT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

4:55:33CHARLES CRANE I'M SAYING THAT

4:55:34FOR CHARLES LAST WEEK HE SAID

4:55:36IF I IF I HEAR BUT FOR ONE MORE

4:55:38TIME I'M GOING TO GO I'M GOING

4:55:40TO LOSE IT.

4:55:40SO OKAY.

4:55:42SO WE ARE.

4:55:43COMPLETELY HERE.

4:55:44FOR TIME.

4:55:45TRYING TO GET THE PRIVATE

4:55:47SECTOR TRYING TO GET PRIVATE.

4:55:49EQUITY TO.

4:55:51INVEST INTO.

4:55:51>> OUR COMMUNITY 100% LET THE

4:55:54FREE MARKET SOCIETY RUN UH IT

4:55:58NEEDS OUR HELP.

4:55:59IT NEEDS OUR HELP IN TAKING

4:56:01DOWN THE BUILDINGS AND THAT'S

4:56:01WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE CRA.

4:56:03NOW CIRCLE BACK TO YOUR THE

4:56:06FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.

4:56:08IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIFE CYCLE

4:56:10OF THE BUILDING 75 YEARS.

4:56:16THE CITY AND THE COUNTY BRING

4:56:20IN 456.5 MILLION OVER THAT LIFE

4:56:23CYCLE.

4:56:25SO WE ALMOST BRING IN AS MUCH

4:56:28AS THEY'RE INVESTING OVER THE

4:56:29SAME ASPECT OF THAT OF THAT

4:56:32TIME FRAME THAT THEY'RE

4:56:33INVESTING IN IN THE CITY.

4:56:35IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE OTHER

4:56:37REVENUES THAT COME IN.

4:56:39THE OUTFLOWS OF THE CRA AND ALL

4:56:42THE INDIRECT REVENUES THAT COME

4:56:44IN PLUS ALL THAT YOU'RE LOOKING

4:56:47AT A BREAK EVEN IN ROUGHLY AT

4:56:492030 FOR ALL IN TOTAL REVENUES.

4:56:53THAT'S NOT CRA ALL IN.

4:56:56THAT'S IT.

4:56:57>> THANK YOU.

4:56:58SO IF YOU WILL.

4:57:00WE TRUST IN THE DEVELOPER AND

4:57:02THERE HAS TO BE SOME OF THAT TO

4:57:04BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN ALL OF THAT

4:57:06BENEFIT.

4:57:06AND THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT DOWN

4:57:09THE LINE IF THIS VALUE IF THEY

4:57:10WANTED TO SELL IT OFF THEY CAN

4:57:12MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY ON

4:57:13IT.

4:57:14BUT WE'RE STILL NOT GOING TO

4:57:15LOSE WHAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO

4:57:17IT.

4:57:18SO IT'S JUST A SHORED UP ALL

4:57:20OVER IN A PLACE.

4:57:21SO APPRECIATE IT.

4:57:22THANK YOU MAYOR.

4:57:23COUNCIL MEMBER TO DO.

4:57:25THANK YOU MAYOR.

4:57:27MR. MASON I LOOKED BACK AT THE

4:57:29JULY UH BACKUP MATERIALS.

4:57:31I SEE THE PRESENTATION AND THE

4:57:33CRA TRUST FUND FORECAST BUT I

4:57:35DON'T SEE THE PRO FORMA.

4:57:36SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE EMAIL

4:57:37THAT TO ME WHENEVER I

4:57:38UNDERSTAND THAT WON'T BE NOW.

4:57:39UM, MR. CITY MANAGER.

4:57:42YOU STATED THAT THIS HAS BEEN

4:57:45NEGOTIATED FOR A YEAR AND I

4:57:47TOTALLY GET THAT.

4:57:48AND ALSO LET ME PREFACE THIS I

4:57:49THINK THAT CROWN DEVELOPMENT IS

4:57:50WONDERFUL DEVELOPERS AND I DO

4:57:52WANT TO SEE THIS PROJECT COME

4:57:53OUT OF THE GROUND.

4:57:53I MEAN THAT HOWEVER MY

4:57:56HESITATION IS YOU'VE BEEN

4:57:58NEGOTIATING FOR A YEAR AND YOU

4:58:00EXPECT THIS COUNCIL TO APPROVE

4:58:02IT IN 20 DAYS WITH TWO PUBLIC

4:58:04HEARINGS.

4:58:05I HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF THAT.

4:58:07RIGHT.

4:58:07>> BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU THOUGHT

4:58:08IS WHAT IS EXPECTED.

4:58:09THE QUESTION.

4:58:11>> THE QUESTION WAS ASK WHY

4:58:13WE'RE WE'RE PRESENTING IT

4:58:14BECAUSE WE'RE DONE.

4:58:15WE'RE WE.

4:58:16WE DON'T DELAY.

4:58:18I KNOW I'VE HEARD THIS FOR A

4:58:20COUPLE OF WEEKS AND I

4:58:21UNDERSTAND THE SEGMENT OF THE

4:58:22COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T WANT

4:58:25THIS TO HAPPEN WILL FIND WAYS

4:58:26TO TRY TO NOT PUT IN THE PARKS

4:58:30AND REC MASTER PLAN.

4:58:31ALL THE PEOPLE ACTIVATE THE

4:58:33WATERFRONT RIGHT?

4:58:33THE BIMINI PLANS FOR OVER 14

4:58:36YEARS HAVE MADE THIS.

4:58:38I LOOKED AT A 2006 PALM CARD

4:58:40FROM THE DISTRICT ONE CANDIDATE

4:58:42TODAY THAT I HAD ON MY DESK

4:58:45COUNCIL MEMBER BIRCH WHO BECAME

4:58:46MAYOR BURCH AND THE COMPLAINTS

4:58:48IN OH SIX WERE NOT ENOUGH IS

4:58:51HAPPENING IN THE CRA.

4:58:54AND HE WAS.

4:58:55ADVOCATING ON HIS PALM CARD FOR

4:58:57A HOTEL.

4:58:58ON THE GOLF COURSE.

4:59:00YEAH.

4:59:01>> SO IT'S.

4:59:02>> VERY.

4:59:02INTERESTING WHEN YOU LOOK AT

4:59:03THE TIME FRAME WHEN I KNOW YOU

4:59:05AND I HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION

4:59:06,HOW DO WE KEEP IT ALL MOVING

4:59:07?

4:59:08WE GET GENERAL DIRECTION, WE

4:59:09GET IT SOLIDIFIED IN MASTER

4:59:11PLANS AND RESOLUTIONS AND OUR

4:59:13GOAL IS TO SEE IT THROUGH RIGHT

4:59:15.

4:59:15SO THAT'S IT'S JUST THE.

4:59:16TIMING OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

4:59:17YEAH AND.

4:59:19AND OUR.

4:59:20>> IN OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO

4:59:21MAKE YOU AS COMFORTABLE AS

4:59:23POSSIBLE WITH ALL OF THE

4:59:24QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND ANSWER

4:59:26YOUR SO IF YOU NEED.

4:59:27>> A SOME MORE CHARTS.

4:59:29>> IF YOU NEED SOME MORE DATA.

4:59:30WE WILL GET IT TO YOU.

4:59:31OUR GOAL IS NEVER TO HAVE ANY

4:59:33OF YOU FEELING YOU'RE EITHER

4:59:35GOING TO LIKE IT OR YOU'RE NOT

4:59:36RIGHT.

4:59:37THANK YOU AND SO FAR I LIKE

4:59:38WHAT I'M SEEING.

4:59:39I THINK THERE'S JUST STILL MORE

4:59:41QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND

4:59:43WE'VE ADDRESSED A FEW OF THEM

4:59:44HERE THIS EVENING AND THERE WAS

4:59:46A SPEAKER THAT SPOKE ABOUT, YOU

4:59:47KNOW, EXHIBITS THAT SAY TO BE

4:59:49ATTACHED AND THEY'RE STILL

4:59:50MISSING.

4:59:51SO SO THAT'S AN EASY ANSWER FOR

4:59:53THAT.

4:59:54THE PERCEPTION WAS IT'S SLOPPY.

4:59:57IT'S NOT DONE.

4:59:59THOSE EXHIBITS ARE TO BE DONE

5:00:01AT A LATER DATE.

5:00:03WE HAVE AN ENTIRE WE HAVE AN

5:00:05ENTIRE SPREADSHEET OF EVERY

5:00:07SINGLE DELIVERABLE IN THE DEA

5:00:10AND WHAT IT'S TRIGGERED IT'S

5:00:12CONDITION.

5:00:13PRECEDENT IS.

5:00:13>> AND WHAT TRIGGERS IT

5:00:16TRIGGERS FOR THE NEXT ITEM.

5:00:20THOSE ITEMS ARE TO BE DONE AND

5:00:23WHEN THEY ARE FINALIZED AT THE

5:00:25TIME THAT TRIGGERS THEM TO BE

5:00:27DONE THEY WILL BE RECORDED AS A

5:00:29AS AN EXHIBIT WITH THE CLERK

5:00:32JUST ALONG WITH THIS DEA.

5:00:33IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE

5:00:36MISSING.

5:00:36IT'S IT'S NOT AN APPROPRIATE

5:00:37TIME FOR THEM TO BE PRODUCED.

5:00:39YEAH.

5:00:40>> AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR.

5:00:41TO OTHER THINGS WE HEAR LIKE

5:00:42YOU KNOW THERE WAS RESIDENTS

5:00:44ASKING TONIGHT ABOUT THE

5:00:46CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS FOR THE

5:00:47UP.

5:00:48IT'S NOT.

5:00:48THAT WE'RE HIDING THEM THEY'RE

5:00:51NOT RELEASED.

5:00:52THEY'RE IN DEVELOPMENT.

5:00:53THEY'RE THEY'RE STILL BEING

5:00:54DONE.

5:00:55WE ARE STILL TAKING SOME BIDS.

5:00:56SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TRYING

5:00:57TO HOLD ANYTHING.

5:00:58IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO

5:01:00HOLD ANYTHING HERE.

5:01:00THOSE DOCUMENTS.

5:01:02WHAT COULD BE A YEAR OR TWO

5:01:04YEARS OUT BEFORE THEY'RE EVEN

5:01:06APPROPRIATE TO BE DONE.

5:01:06TAKE FOR EXAMPLE ONE.

5:01:08OF THEM.

5:01:09IS THE EXPANSION OF THE

5:01:12ENTERTAINMENT ZONE IN THE IN

5:01:13THE CRA.

5:01:14I DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT LANGUAGE

5:01:18DRAFTED.

5:01:19WE HAVEN'T HAD THE PUBLIC

5:01:21HEARING ON THAT SO I CAN'T

5:01:23RECORD THAT ORDINANCE BECAUSE

5:01:25IT'S NOT EVEN DONE YET.

5:01:27BUT WHEN IT IS WITHIN WHATEVER

5:01:30THE APPROPRIATE LEGAL TIME

5:01:32FRAME IS 10 OR 14 DAYS THAT

5:01:34WILL THEN GET RECORDED ALONG

5:01:36WITH THIS DOCUMENT TO ACCOMPANY

5:01:38THE DEA.

5:01:39PERFECT.

5:01:40>> THANK YOU.

5:01:40AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO SOME UM

5:01:43INFRASTRUCTURE REIMBURSEMENTS

5:01:44THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING.

5:01:45IS THAT CORRECT?

5:01:48INFRASTRUCTURE REIMBURSEMENTS.

5:01:50LIKE WHAT.

5:01:52WHEN YOU WERE PRESENTING BACK

5:01:53IN JULY YOU KNOW, THERE WAS

5:01:55WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND DOING

5:01:56OH HE'S.

5:01:57HE'S NAILED THAT THEY'VE GOT

5:01:58HIM HERE THEY'VE GOT UH RIGHT

5:02:00THERE THERE YOU GO.

5:02:01.

5:02:01>> THE BIG.

5:02:02CORNER UTILITY SOME OF THOSE

5:02:05WERE PREVIOUSLY UNDEFINED AND

5:02:06PEOPLE WERE ASKING WHERE ARE WE

5:02:08AT.

5:02:08WE'VE WE'VE GOT THEM PEGGED

5:02:10HERE NOW.

5:02:12AND THE DEVELOPER GETS

5:02:14REIMBURSED FOR DOING SOME OF

5:02:15THESE.

5:02:15I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THIS

5:02:17IN JULY BECAUSE WE WERE GOING

5:02:18THEY WERE AT THE END OF THE

5:02:19LIFE.

5:02:19YEAH.

5:02:20>> SO THESE ARE SO WHEN YOU

5:02:22LOOK.

5:02:23AT.

5:02:23THE CORNER CORONADO AND MIRAMAR

5:02:26RIGHT SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IN IN

5:02:29PREVIOUS MOBILITY STUDIES AND

5:02:31TRANSPORTATION PLANS THE IDEA

5:02:32WAS TO ALWAYS BRING MIRAMAR

5:02:35ACROSS CORONADO AND THAT'S

5:02:37GOING TO NEED SOME TYPE OF

5:02:38TRAFFIC.

5:02:39UM TRAFFIC UH ONE OF THEM WERE

5:02:43TO SLIP IN MY.

5:02:43TRAFFIC CONTROL.

5:02:44>> TRAFFIC CONTROL.

5:02:45THERE YOU GO.

5:02:45ROUNDABOUT.

5:02:46>> THANK YOU.

5:02:47ALWAYS ALWAYS.

5:02:48HAPPY TO HELP.

5:02:49THANK YOU.

5:02:49UM, AND SO IT COULD BE A LIGHT

5:02:51COULD BE A ROUNDABOUT.

5:02:52BUT THOSE WERE THINGS THAT AND

5:02:54I TRIED TO SAY THIS THOSE ARE

5:02:56THINGS THE CRA COULD WE COULD.

5:02:57DO THEM.

5:02:58>> NOW BUT.

5:02:59WHY BOTHER?

5:02:59LET'S HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION ALL

5:03:01BE DONE TOGETHER RATHER THAN

5:03:02PUT IT IN THERE AND THEN HAVE

5:03:04THE POSSIBILITY OF IT BEING

5:03:05TORN UP.

5:03:05SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE

5:03:08WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THROUGH

5:03:11THIS DEA.

5:03:12THAT WE WERE CONTEMPLATING TO

5:03:13DO THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH

5:03:15ANY, YOU KNOW, SINGLE BUSINESS

5:03:18THAT'S DOWN THERE JUST LIKE

5:03:19WHEN WE DID 47TH STREET OR WE

5:03:21DID YOU KNOW YOU KNOW.

5:03:22THE ALLEYS, THE DRAINAGE

5:03:25IMPROVEMENTS.

5:03:25IT'S FOR THE.

5:03:27ENTIRE ELIMINATION OF SOME

5:03:28BLIGHT OF THE AREA.

5:03:29SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THE

5:03:31DEVELOPER TO SAY HEY, WHILE

5:03:32YOU'RE DOWN THERE, FIX THE

5:03:35VICTORIA DRIVE STORMWATER FOR

5:03:36US, IMPROVE THE NETWORK, MAKE

5:03:38IT BIGGER AND MAKE IT NEWER

5:03:40WHILE YOU'RE THERE, PUT IN THE

5:03:42TRAFFIC CONTROL AT CORONADO

5:03:44MIRAMAR WE'RE GOING TO I THINK

5:03:46THE STREET LIGHTS WAS UM WE'RE

5:03:49GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE

5:03:50IN THE DEVELOPER I FORGET CAPE

5:03:53CORAL PARKWAY OR CORONADO OR

5:03:55THEY'RE GOING TO DO ALL OF IT

5:03:56AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO REFUND

5:03:57IT TO YOU.

5:03:57I WASN'T IN THE WHICH ONE IS

5:03:59I'M.

5:04:00SORRY WHAT.

5:04:00THE STREET LIGHTS THEY'RE GOING

5:04:03TO ARE THEY GOING TO DO THEM

5:04:04AND WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THEM

5:04:05BOTH CORONADO NO.

5:04:05WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING IN THE SEA

5:04:07THE WE'RE REPLACING THEM NOW.

5:04:10ON CAPE CORAL PARKWAY.

5:04:11AND I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO BE

5:04:13DOING THEM ON CORONADO.

5:04:14WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM IN.

5:04:15>> UM OKAY.

5:04:15YES.

5:04:16SO THERE'S THERE'S AN EXAMPLE

5:04:17WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD

5:04:19AHEAD OF IT AND THAT COULD HAVE

5:04:20BEEN ANY OF THESE.

5:04:21SO BACK WHEN WE PRESENTED

5:04:24BEFORE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING

5:04:25TO SAY IS NOT NECESSARILY

5:04:28APPROPRIATE TO JUST SUM UP ALL

5:04:29THESE EXPENSES AND ATTRIBUTE

5:04:32THEM TO THIS DEVELOPER BECAUSE

5:04:35THEY'RE WE'RE PARTNERING WITH

5:04:37THEM TO DO IT FOR US AT THE

5:04:39TIME THEY'RE DOING IT.

5:04:40RIGHT LIKE.

5:04:42WHICH ON THAT NOTE, JUST TO BE

5:04:45CLEAR THERE WOULD BE NO

5:04:46INFRASTRUCTURE REIMBURSEMENTS

5:04:48SO TO SPEAK UNLESS IT WAS

5:04:49ALREADY COMPLETE.

5:04:50RIGHT.

5:04:51LIKE HOLD ON A SECOND.

5:04:52LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WHICH ONE

5:04:54WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

5:04:55SO I'M TALKING.

5:04:55ABOUT THE.

5:04:56>> STATEMENT IT HAD TO BE

5:04:58HONEST WITH YOU I.

5:04:59DON'T THINK IT'S A BLANKET

5:05:00STATEMENT.

5:05:00IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO EACH

5:05:01ONE SINGULARLY WITH VICTORIA

5:05:04DRIVE STORMWATER.

5:05:06THE REASON WHY THIS IS HERE.

5:05:08IS BECAUSE.

5:05:09>> WHEN THE BIMINI SQUARE WAS

5:05:11DEVELOPED WE DETERMINED AFTER

5:05:14THEY HAD ALREADY ALREADY HAD

5:05:16THEIR THEIR PERMIT AND READY TO

5:05:18GO THAT WE NEEDED TO ALSO

5:05:20REPLACE THE STORMWATER AT THE

5:05:22SAME TIME.

5:05:23SO WE HAD TO ENTER INTO A

5:05:25DIFFERENT AGREEMENT WITH

5:05:26SOMEBODY ELSE AND THAT

5:05:27DIFFERENT AGREEMENT WOULD WORK

5:05:29WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE

5:05:30DEVELOPER WOULD ACTUALLY BUILD

5:05:31IT AND THEN WE WOULD REIMBURSE

5:05:33BACK THROUGH THAT AND PAY AND

5:05:35PAY OUR CONTRACTOR.

5:05:36>> FOR THAT.

5:05:37WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS AVOID

5:05:40HAVING TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTS

5:05:41GOING AT THE SAME TIME WHILE

5:05:42THEY WERE DOING WORK AND WE

5:05:43WERE DOING WORK.

5:05:45SO THE IDEA WOULD BE IF THEY'RE

5:05:46IF THEY'RE CONTRACTORS OR

5:05:48THEY'RE ON SITE WE WANT TO HAVE

5:05:51THE STORMWATER UH, IMPROVEMENTS

5:05:54DONE AT THIS EXACT SAME TIME

5:05:56AND WE WOULD REIMBURSE THEM.

5:05:57WE WOULD LOOK AT WE WOULD

5:05:59EVALUATE THE INVOICES, WE WOULD

5:06:01DO ALL THE SAME THINGS THAT WE

5:06:02DID WHEN WE DID BIMINI SQUARE

5:06:05AND THEN WE WOULD REIMBURSE

5:06:06THEM FOR THAT AT THAT TIME.

5:06:08FOR THE COST.

5:06:10OKAY.

5:06:11>> SO WE WOULDN'T WAIT UNTIL

5:06:13IT'S DONE.

5:06:13WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS

5:06:16OF PROGRESS INVOICES AND PAY

5:06:18THEM DURING THE PROGRESS.

5:06:21SO THERE'S NO PROTECTION OR

5:06:23CLAWBACK IF AGAIN THEY WALK IN

5:06:25THE MIDDLE OF THIS.

5:06:27I THINK THE IDEA BEING HERE IS

5:06:29THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT

5:06:31WALKING IN THE MIDDLE OF

5:06:31SOMETHING, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND

5:06:33IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY

5:06:35HAVE AN OPEN TRENCH AND THEY

5:06:37DECIDE TO JUST LEAVE.

5:06:37YEAH OR THAT'S NOT GOING TO.

5:06:39HAPPEN OKAY.

5:06:41THANK YOU OKAY.

5:06:42THANK YOU.

5:06:42>> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE ONE MORE

5:06:44COUNCIL MEMBER THAT I KNOW THE

5:06:46DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO, UH,

5:06:48MAKE A COMMENT.

5:06:48SO COUNCIL MEMBER STANKY I'LL

5:06:50GO TO YOU.

5:06:51THANK YOU.

5:06:52>> MAYOR YEAH I I DON'T WANT TO

5:06:54GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT

5:06:55BECAUSE OF ALL THE QUESTIONS

5:06:55THAT I ASKED, UH, THAT I AM

5:06:58THAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS,

5:07:00UM.

5:07:01YOU KNOW.

5:07:02>> A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE

5:07:06AND, UH.

5:07:07OF THE DURATION THAT'S GOING TO

5:07:08BE REQUIRED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.

5:07:11ABSOLUTELY REQUIRES.

5:07:14TRUST IN.

5:07:16THE DEVELOPER.

5:07:18AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE HAVE

5:07:21TALKED FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND

5:07:23YEARS THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE

5:07:25OUR COMMERCIAL BASE.

5:07:26WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR

5:07:28COMMERCIAL BASE, GET THE TAX

5:07:29BURDEN OFF OF THE RESIDENTS.

5:07:31LET'S GET MORE OF THE TAX BASE

5:07:33COMING FROM COMMERCIAL.

5:07:35WELL THAT'S NOT.

5:07:36OPENING UP STEVE'S.

5:07:38SHOE REPAIR.

5:07:41THAT'S A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

5:07:44IT'S A PROJECT LIKE THE GROVE.

5:07:46THOSE TAX THOSE TAKE YEARS TO.

5:07:49>> PUT TOGETHER.

5:07:49>> IT TAKES VISIONING.

5:07:50IT TAKES UH IT TAKES A

5:07:53DEVELOPER THAT UM HAS EITHER

5:07:55DEEP POCKETS OR GREAT CREDIT.

5:07:58UM, AND YOU HAVE TO ROMANCE

5:08:00THOSE PEOPLE TO BRING THEM TO

5:08:01YOUR CITY AND THEN GOING TO

5:08:02ANOTHER CITY.

5:08:04AND SO.

5:08:07CROWN CAME TO US AND SHOWED US

5:08:10WHAT THEY COULD DO AND FEW

5:08:12PLACES IN OUR CITY ALREADY.

5:08:14SO IF I'VE GOT TO PUT MY TRUST

5:08:16IN IN SOMEONE TO COME INTO OUR

5:08:18CITY AND DO THIS TYPE OF WORK

5:08:21TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF MAGNITUDE

5:08:24UM ON.

5:08:25ON THE USABILITY OF OUR CITY

5:08:28THE AMENITIES ARE AVAILABLE TO

5:08:29OUR CITIZENS AND SOME OF THE

5:08:32TAX BURDEN THAT THEY TAKE ON IN

5:08:36CONTRIBUTING TO THE

5:08:38REQUIREMENTS OF OUR CITY.

5:08:40UM, THERE'S THERE'S NOBODY I'D

5:08:43RATHER, UH, GET INTO THE DEAL

5:08:46WITH UH THAN THAN CROWN AND

5:08:49BIMINI BASIN DEVELOPMENT.

5:08:50SO UM.

5:08:52YOU KNOW.

5:08:54IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE AND

5:08:56THERE'S AND IT'S BEEN A GIVE

5:08:57AND TAKE NOW FOR MONTHS AND

5:08:58MONTHS AND FOR THE MOST PART

5:09:02EVERY TIME SOMETHING IS

5:09:03PRESENTED TO THIS COUNCIL WE'RE

5:09:06THE ONES THAT ARE WANTING TO

5:09:09TAKE SOMETHING ELSE.

5:09:10NO, WE WANT YOU TO DO IT THIS

5:09:11WAY.

5:09:12NO, WE WANT YOU TO DO IT THAT

5:09:13WAY.

5:09:13NO, WE WANT YOU TO INCLUDE THIS

5:09:14DO ALL WE KNOW.

5:09:16WE DON'T WANT YOU TO OWN THE

5:09:17PARK.

5:09:17WE STILL NEED TO OWN THE PARK.

5:09:19AND AND VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING

5:09:21WE'VE ASKED FOR WE'VE BEEN

5:09:23GIVEN.

5:09:23SO FOR US.

5:09:24FOR US.

5:09:26>> IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN, UH,

5:09:27MORE OF A TAKE AND THE

5:09:28DEVELOPER'S BEEN THE GIVER TO

5:09:31TO GET THIS DEAL DONE IN A WAY

5:09:33THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, UH,

5:09:36AND SERVE AND SERVES THE

5:09:37GREATER GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY.

5:09:39UM, TOO MANY THINGS IF CAN KICK

5:09:43THE CAN IS GONE KICK DOWN THE

5:09:45ROAD AND NUMBERS AND NUMBERS OF

5:09:47ISSUES.

5:09:48UM.

5:09:49>> I FOR ONE UH, WILL BE IN

5:09:51FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD.

5:09:53THANKS.

5:09:54>> OKAY.

5:09:56>> I KNOW THE DEVELOPER, UH,

5:09:57WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY

5:09:59TO SPEAK.

5:10:00MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK TO

5:10:02SALES.

5:10:03>> DONE.

5:10:03GREAT.

5:10:04THANK YOU.

5:10:05>> MAYOR AND MEMBERS.

5:10:06OF THE COUNCIL.

5:10:07UH, APPRECIATE THE.

5:10:09OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT

5:10:11AND.

5:10:11AND PRESENT.

5:10:12>> THIS.

5:10:13DA SOMETHING THAT I AM REALLY

5:10:14PROUD OF.

5:10:15UH, BY THE.

5:10:16WAY, I'M LARRY.

5:10:16NYGAARD FROM.

5:10:17CROWN DEVELOPMENT.

5:10:19UM, AND I'M.

5:10:20GOING TO FLY AGAINST THE WIND.

5:10:21HERE A LITTLE.

5:10:21>> BIT AND ALSO GIVE SOME KUDOS

5:10:23TO THE STAFF.

5:10:25UH, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WHAT

5:10:26YOU GUYS SEE ARE THE HUNDREDS

5:10:28OF HOURS THAT WE'VE PUT IN TO

5:10:30GET TO THIS POINT TONIGHT AND

5:10:32YOU'RE LOOKING AT 180 PAGE

5:10:34DOCUMENT AND SAYING THAT'S NOT

5:10:36ENOUGH.

5:10:36WELL, THINK OF THE THOUGHT AND

5:10:38EFFORT AND ENERGY THAT WENT IN

5:10:39TO GET THAT AND THINK THROUGH

5:10:41ALL THOSE DIFFERENT.

5:10:42ASPECTS OF IT.

5:10:43UM THEY'VE BEEN VERY THOROUGH,

5:10:46RESPECTFUL AND AND THEY'VE

5:10:48REPRESENTED THE CITY WELL.

5:10:50UM ALL OF THAT BEING.

5:10:51SAID, UM, I JUST WANT TO GIVE

5:10:54YOU JUST I.

5:10:55>> KNOW IT'S.

5:10:55>> GETTING LATE, BUT I WANT TO

5:10:56GIVE YOU GUYS A GLIMPSE OF.

5:10:57WHAT WHAT.

5:10:58I SEE FROM THE DEVELOPER SIDE

5:10:59AND AND I THINK UH, COUNCIL

5:11:03MEMBER STANKEY POINTED.

5:11:03OUT THE.

5:11:04>> AMOUNT OF TRUST THAT GOES

5:11:05FROM THE CITY TO THE DEVELOPER

5:11:08AND HOW THAT'S AN IMPORTANT

5:11:09PART OF THE DECISION THAT

5:11:10YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE TONIGHT.

5:11:12AND I HOPE THAT WE'VE PROVEN

5:11:13OURSELF.

5:11:14>> OVER.

5:11:14AND OVER AGAIN AS UH, A

5:11:16REPUTABLE PARTNER AND SOMEBODY.

5:11:17THAT UH.

5:11:18WORKS BOTH WAYS.

5:11:20UM.

5:11:21>> BUT THAT GOES THE OTHER WAY

5:11:22TOO, RIGHT?

5:11:23I MEAN THE DEVELOPER.

5:11:24HAS TO HAVE.

5:11:25CONFIDENCE IN THE CITY.

5:11:27SOME OF WHAT I SAW TONIGHT WAS

5:11:30.

5:11:30NOT UM.

5:11:34EXCITING FOR ME.

5:11:35IT REALLY IT WAS CONCERNING.

5:11:37RIGHT.

5:11:38>> UM REALLY CONCERNING BECAUSE

5:11:41.

5:11:41EVERYBODY THAT I'VE WORKED WITH

5:11:43ON.

5:11:43THIS PROJECT HAS HAD THE BEST

5:11:45INTEREST OF THE THE CITY IN

5:11:46MIND.

5:11:47UM.

5:11:48>> AND TO BE ACCUSED OF

5:11:49SOMETHING DIFFERENT OF THAT.

5:11:51UPSETS ME.

5:11:52THAT THERE EVEN THOSE ATTITUDES

5:11:54NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.

5:11:56EVER CALLED ME.

5:11:57AND ASKED.

5:11:59I'M JUST.

5:12:00>> A PHONE CALL AWAY.

5:12:01ANY OF YOU THAT HAVE CALLED.

5:12:02ME I PICK UP.

5:12:04SO I'M.

5:12:06AVAILABLE RIGHT?

5:12:07AND I WANT TO DO.

5:12:08>> WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S GOOD

5:12:09FOR THE CITY BUT.

5:12:11>> I HAVE.

5:12:11>> TO RUN A BUSINESS TOO.

5:12:13WE EACH HAVE PARTS THAT ARE

5:12:14EQUAL AND AND IMPORTANT FOR

5:12:16EACH OTHER.

5:12:18UM AND SO THAT'S.

5:12:19>> JUST FROM.

5:12:20>> WHAT I.

5:12:20SEE AND.

5:12:21SURE WE CAN KICK.

5:12:21>> THE CAN DOWN.

5:12:22>> THE.

5:12:22ROAD BUT.

5:12:23>> I ALSO WANT TO TELL YOU

5:12:24WE'RE AFFECTING.

5:12:25A HALF A DOZEN OTHER BUSINESSES

5:12:27IN THAT AREA THAT ARE WONDERING

5:12:28WHAT THE HECK'S GOING TO GO ON.

5:12:30ARE WE.

5:12:31>> GOING TO BUY THEM AND

5:12:31RELOCATE THEM.

5:12:32OR ARE THEY.

5:12:33>> GOING TO GO AWAY FOR GOOD?

5:12:34YOU KNOW THERE'S OTHER LIVES

5:12:36THAT YOU KNOW THAT ARE IMPACTED

5:12:37BY THIS.

5:12:38SO MY DECISION OR MY DESIRE

5:12:41WOULD BE THAT WE MAKE THE

5:12:42DECISION AND WORK OUT SOME OF

5:12:44THESE DETAILS IN THE FUTURE.

5:12:45UH.

5:12:46>> WE JUST OWE THEM MORE THAN

5:12:48KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD

5:12:50AND WONDERING WHAT THE HECK'S

5:12:50GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM.

5:12:51SO THAT WOULD BE MY ASK TONIGHT

5:12:53.

5:12:54A COUPLE.

5:12:55OF POINTS I WANTED TO CLARIFY.

5:12:57UM.

5:12:57>> JUST UH FIRST OF ALL TO

5:13:00COUNCIL.

5:13:01MEMBER LONG.

5:13:01UH, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT AN

5:13:03INVESTMENT OF 250,000.

5:13:06ACTUALLY IF YOU READ THE

5:13:08AGREEMENT THAT'S THE INITIAL

5:13:10DEPOSIT WE DEPOSIT AN

5:13:12ADDITIONAL 750,000 ONCE THE

5:13:15CONTINGENCIES HAVE BEEN.

5:13:16MET WHICH.

5:13:17>> ARE PRIMARILY RELATED TO THE

5:13:19MARINA.

5:13:20SO WE'LL HAVE $1 MILLION AT

5:13:22RISK.

5:13:23UM, MOVING.

5:13:24FORWARD, WHICH IS A

5:13:25SIGNIFICANT.

5:13:25AMOUNT OF MONEY.

5:13:26UH, IN MY LIFE.

5:13:28UM.

5:13:28>> BUT SECONDLY AND I THINK

5:13:30MAYBE WE'LL DECIDE THAT WE'RE

5:13:32NOT SEEING IN THIS AGREEMENT IS

5:13:34ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING

5:13:35AS A DEVELOPER OUTSIDE OF JUST

5:13:38BUYING THE LAND.

5:13:39FOR EXAMPLE THE INVESENT IN

5:13:41THE MARINA UH, IT WILL TAKE

5:13:44HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF

5:13:45DOLLARS TO EXECUTE JUST THE

5:13:47ENGINEERING AND THE STUDY THAT

5:13:48IT TAKES TO GET THERE NOT NOT

5:13:51TO MENTION ANOTHER.

5:13:52THREE OR 4.

5:13:54>> OR 5 MILLION TO BUILD THE

5:13:55MARINA.

5:13:55WELL, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT

5:13:57WE'RE DOING NOT PART OF BUYING

5:13:58THE LAND WE'RE DOING THOSE IN

5:14:00ADDITION TO BUYING THE LAND.

5:14:02AND SO THE IDEA THAT WE CAN

5:14:04JUST BUY SOMETHING AND SIT ON

5:14:06IT AND WAIT AND NOT HAVE ANY

5:14:08INVESTMENT OTHER THAN OUR

5:14:09DEPOSIT THAT'S JUST NOT REALLY

5:14:10WHAT'S HAPPENING BEHIND THE

5:14:12SCENES.

5:14:12WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS OF

5:14:14DOLLARS TO DEVELOP THE SITE TO

5:14:17MAKE IT DESIRABLE FOR THE AREA

5:14:19THAT MIGHT COME TO ME AND SAY I

5:14:20WANT TO BE HERE.

5:14:22THEY WON'T COME HERE AS IT IS.

5:14:24BUT WHEN WE ENERGIZE THAT AREA,

5:14:27BUILD THE MARINA, BUILD THE

5:14:29OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE.

5:14:30AROUND IT.

5:14:31>> THEN THEY'LL WANT TO BE HERE

5:14:33AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A FUN TIME

5:14:35DOING THAT DEVELOPMENT.

5:14:36SO UM.

5:14:37I AGAIN WE ARE INVESTING A LOT

5:14:40MORE THAN WHAT YOU JUST SEE

5:14:41HERE IN THIS DOCUMENT AS A

5:14:43DEVELOPER AND WE'RE SPENDING A

5:14:45LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY TO SEE

5:14:46THIS THING ACCOMPLISHED.

5:14:48AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THE TIME

5:14:50THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US TONIGHT.

5:14:51THANK YOU.

5:14:52THANK YOU SIR.

5:14:54COUNCILMEMBER LONG YEAH.

5:14:55THANK YOU.

5:14:56>> JUST REAL QUICKLY I THOUGHT

5:14:57I MADE MY POINT CLEAR WITH

5:14:58REGARDS TO THE 250,000.

5:14:59UH I ALSO MENTIONED THE 750 ON

5:15:01TOP OF THAT BUT THAT WAS AFTER

5:15:02THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS

5:15:03REACHED WHICH IS AGAIN TO MY

5:15:06POINT SEVERAL YEARS DOWN THE

5:15:07ROAD.

5:15:07SO I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYONE OF

5:15:09ANYTHING BUT I THINK TO

5:15:10COUNCILMEMBER NIKE'S POINT

5:15:11THEY'VE DONE GREAT WORK IN THE

5:15:12CITY.

5:15:12BUT WE'D ALSO BE FOOLISH TO SAY

5:15:16FRANKLY TO WHAT SMITH SAYS

5:15:17THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

5:15:19OH OKAY.

5:15:20LET'S JUST SIGN IT.

5:15:21AND THAT WAS A SMALLER POINT

5:15:22THAT WASN'T IN REFERENCE TO MY

5:15:23POINT, BUT WE'VE DONE THAT IN

5:15:24THE PAST MADE THOSE MISTAKES ON

5:15:26A SMALLER MAGNITUDE.

5:15:27UM SO YEAH THIS IS THE CITY

5:15:29COUNCIL MEMBER.

5:15:29TAKE YOUR POINT THIS ISN'T A

5:15:30PERSONAL THING.

5:15:31THIS IS FRANKLY JUST DILIGENCE

5:15:32ON OUR END AND THE BRIEF

5:15:34MOMENTS THAT WE HAVE UP HERE TO

5:15:35DO IT.

5:15:35UM, SOME OF THIS STUFF'S BEEN

5:15:37DONE ON THE BACK END, BUT YEAH,

5:15:38BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION.

5:15:40YOU SINCE YOU WANT TO MAKE A

5:15:41POINT OF THE $250,000 VERSUS

5:15:42THE 750,000 UH, WHICH I DID

5:15:44MENTION UM, HE SAID THAT THAT

5:15:47WAS UH THE 750,000 ADDITIONAL

5:15:49AFTER THE FIRST 50 WAS GOING TO

5:15:52BE UM PAID AFTER THEY RECEIVE

5:15:55THEIR.

5:15:55UH MARINE PERMITS I BELIEVE WAS

5:15:57A STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE.

5:15:59IS THAT CORRECT?

5:16:00THE DO.

5:16:01DO DO PERMIT IT'S MERELY THE UH

5:16:04,DUE.

5:16:04DILIGENCE AGREEMENT PRINCIPLE.

5:16:06>> TO MOVE.

5:16:07FORWARD WITH IT.

5:16:07CORRECT.

5:16:07BUT YOU SAID.

5:16:08THE MARINE PERMITS I BELIEVE IS

5:16:10WHAT YOU KNOW.

5:16:10NOT OBTAINING THEM.

5:16:12NOT OBTAINING THEM.

5:16:13SURE.

5:16:13ONCE WE GET NOTIFICATION.

5:16:15THAT IT'S DOABLE.

5:16:17THAT'S THE TRIGGER.

5:16:18THAT'S THE TRIGGER.

5:16:19TRIGGER SAYS IN THE SLIDES HERE

5:16:21IS THE UH THE DEVELOPMENT

5:16:23AGREEMENT.

5:16:26AFTER THE SATISFACTION OF THE

5:16:27DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

5:16:28WHAT SLIDE ARE YOU ON?

5:16:29I'M SORRY.

5:16:30SECTION 18 OR SLIDE 18 RATHER.

5:16:33MARK CAN YOU FLIP TO 18?

5:16:38SURE.

5:16:38>> SO ONCE A ONCE THE.

5:16:50PSA IS AGREED TO WITHIN TWO

5:16:52DAYS THEY'LL GIVE US THE

5:16:54$250,000 WE'LL PUT IT IN

5:16:55ESCROW.

5:16:55IT'LL STAY THERE AS FAR AS THE

5:17:00750,000 GOES GOES BACK TO THE

5:17:036.7 CLOSING TRIGGER CONDITIONS

5:17:06THOSE CONDITIONS WILL.

5:17:07REQUIRE UH, SPECIFICALLY.

5:17:22THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE

5:17:25ENTERED INTO.

5:17:25CONTRACTS TO ACQUIRE.

5:17:26THE CONTROL OF THE ADDITIONAL

5:17:28PARCELS THAT WERE.

5:17:30LOCATED UP IN 6.5 AND THAT

5:17:32WOULD BE THE THE THAT WOULD BE

5:17:34GEORGE'S AS WELL AS THE

5:17:35TRUMBULL PROPERTIES.

5:17:36SO I THINK YOU KNOW THAT THAT

5:17:37SHOULD BE IT.

5:17:38THERE'S TWO OTHERS.

5:17:39>> YEAH YEAH.

5:17:40AND THE AND THE TWO BANK.

5:17:41PROPERTIES RIGHT OKAY.

5:17:43AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE

5:17:45THAT THE.

5:17:45DEVELOPER SHALL HAVE MET WITH.

5:17:47SOUTH FLORIDA.

5:17:48>> WATER.

5:17:48MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND.

5:17:49OBTAINED PRELIMINARY

5:17:52ASSURANCES.

5:17:53THAT UH.

5:17:56SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT

5:17:57WOULD BE WILLING TO APPROVE THE

5:17:59MARINA.

5:17:59SO THAT'S NOT A PERMIT FOR THE

5:18:00ACTUAL MARINA BUILDING.

5:18:02IT'S ASSURANCES AND THEY WILL

5:18:04HAVE HAD A MEETING IN ORDER TO

5:18:06TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

5:18:07SO THE REFERENCE TO THE DA HERE

5:18:09IN THIS SLIDE IS.

5:18:10JUST WHAT.

5:18:11>> THE REFERENCE HERE IS IS THE

5:18:14$750,000 ADDITIONAL IS DUE

5:18:15WITHIN FIVE DAYS AFTER THE

5:18:17SATISFACTION OF THOSE TWO

5:18:18SPECIFIC ITEMS AND 6.7.

5:18:21WHICH ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

5:18:22AGREEMENT WHICH ARE IN THE

5:18:24DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT.

5:18:24YES.

5:18:25>> AND I THINK WE HAVE.

5:18:27UH SIX.

5:18:28MONTHS TO TO.

5:18:29ACCOMPLISH THOSE ITEMS.

5:18:30CORRECT?

5:18:31>> CORRECT.

5:18:32>> SO WE WE SEE THAT ADDITIONAL

5:18:36750,000 BEING DEPOSITED WITHIN

5:18:39LESS THAN SIX MONTHS AFTER.

5:18:40WE REACHED THE AGREEMENT.

5:18:43ON PAGE TEN.

5:18:44TO THE LOOK IN HERE.

5:18:46GOT IT.

5:18:46>> OKAY.

5:18:47THANK YOU.

5:18:50ANYTHING ELSE?

5:18:51COUNCIL MEMBER LONG?

5:18:52YEAH.

5:18:53>> UM, CAN WE GET, UH.

5:18:54JUST A.

5:18:55>> I GUESS A MORE STABLE ANSWER

5:18:57ON THE, UH, TEN DAY

5:18:59POST-CLOSING PAYMENT.

5:19:02IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THAT

5:19:03WOULD NEED TO BE I'LL I

5:19:04UNDERSTAND YOU.

5:19:05YOU DON'T.

5:19:05>> CARE ABOUT A.

5:19:07OF I DON'T CARE.

5:19:08THAT'S NOT A BIG I.

5:19:09MEAN I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY IT

5:19:10WHY IT WAS YEAH.

5:19:11I DON'T I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT

5:19:13WAS IT WAS IT WAS PROBABLY

5:19:14LANGUAGE FROM ANOTHER.

5:19:16DOCUMENT.

5:19:16>> WE CAN CLOSE.

5:19:17IN ONE DAY IF YOU WANT IT.

5:19:18>> YEAH I MEAN IT'S IT'S

5:19:19STRANGE AND I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T

5:19:21PRESENT THAT BUT.

5:19:22ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS I I

5:19:24WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE

5:19:25ALL TALKING.

5:19:25>> ABOUT.

5:19:26THE SAME THING.

5:19:27THEN COUNCILMAN IT'S THIS.

5:19:28>> ONE.

5:19:29RIGHT ON PAGE SIX TRANSFERRED.

5:19:31TRIGGER IF.

5:19:32>> YOU SELL THE PROPERTY CONVEY

5:19:33.

5:19:33AT LEAST.

5:19:34>> LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS OR

5:19:35ANY OTHER TRANSFER OF PROPERTY

5:19:37THAT YOU WILL HAVE OWNED AT THE

5:19:38TIME THAT YOU.

5:19:39>> WOULD THEN.

5:19:40PAY US WITHIN TEN.

5:19:42DAYS FOLLOWING.

5:19:43>> THAT.

5:19:43THAT OH, I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT.

5:19:45I THOUGHT THAT THAT THAT THAT

5:19:46WAS RELATING TO THE CLOSING OF

5:19:48THE.

5:19:48IT IS NOT RELATED TO THE.

5:19:50CLOSED THAT'S UP HERE.

5:19:51>> SAY THAT THANK YOU SIR.

5:19:52ALL RIGHT.

5:19:52>> ALL RIGHT COUNCILMEMBER

5:19:55COULD YOU.

5:19:56THANK YOU.

5:19:56>> AND AGAIN THANK YOU TO CROWN

5:19:58DEVELOPMENT I THINK I MADE IT

5:19:59CLEAR THAT I DEFINITELY WANT TO

5:20:00SEE THIS PROJECT COME OUT OF

5:20:01THE GROUND.

5:20:02IT HAS LIKE THERE'S THIS IS

5:20:04JUST BUSINESS AND WE HAVE TO

5:20:05ANSWER TO THE TAXPAYERS.

5:20:07SO FIRST OF ALL HAS CROWN EVER

5:20:10DONE A PROJECT OF THIS

5:20:11MAGNITUDE BEFORE?

5:20:14I KNOW.

5:20:15SHE'S SHE ASKED.

5:20:16UM THE.

5:20:18LAST ME SO.

5:20:19THIS TO PUT IT.

5:20:20>> IN.

5:20:21PROPORTION UH OR SCALE UM THIS

5:20:24REPRESENTS ABOUT.

5:20:25FOUR BIMINI SQUARE PROJECTS.

5:20:27UM YOU.

5:20:28KNOW IN TERMS OF SCOPE.

5:20:30IT'S EXCITING TIMES.

5:20:31YEAH.

5:20:32AND AGAIN WE'VE NEGOTIATED THE

5:20:34TEN YEAR PERIOD BECAUSE UM,

5:20:38EVEN IF I COULD BUILD IT ALL AT

5:20:39ONCE THE MARKET CAN'T HANDLE IT

5:20:42ALL AT ONCE.

5:20:42SO WE'VE TRIED TO.

5:20:44MARRY UP THE DEMAND WITH OUR

5:20:46ABILITY TO CONSTRUCT AND AND

5:20:48THAT SEEMS TO BE A REASONABLE

5:20:51EXPECTATION OF OUR EXECUTION.

5:20:53PERFECT.

5:20:54>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CITY

5:20:56ATTORNEY.

5:20:56DOES THIS AGREEMENT HAVE

5:20:58ADEQUATE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE

5:21:00TO PROTECT THE CITY, NOT THE

5:21:03CRA AND THE TAXPAYERS?

5:21:08IN WHAT.

5:21:09SENSE?

5:21:10>> PROTECTION?

5:21:12>> WELL, I MEAN DO WE HAVE A

5:21:15MECHANISM FOR US TO RECOUP THE

5:21:17THE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE

5:21:20TRANSFER?

5:21:21YES WE DO WILL.

5:21:22REQUIRE OF.

5:21:23POTENTIAL JUDICIAL INTERVENTION

5:21:26100%.

5:21:27SO TO.

5:21:28ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

5:21:30YES, BUT IT.

5:21:31>> WILL REQUIRE ME.

5:21:32TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION IN ONE

5:21:33FASHION.

5:21:33OR ANOTHER.

5:21:34AND THAT LEGAL ACTION.

5:21:35>> WILL.

5:21:36REQUIRE IT TO GO BEFORE THE

5:21:38JUDICIARY.

5:21:38>> TO MAKE.

5:21:39>> THAT DETERMINATION.

5:21:40BUT YES, WE'VE IDENTIFIED WE'VE

5:21:42NEGOTIATED TO THE BEST WE

5:21:44POSSIBLY CAN FOR.

5:21:45WHAT WE ARE.

5:21:46WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU AND

5:21:48WHAT WE'RE SEEING TO

5:21:49ACCOMPLISH.

5:21:50RIGHT.

5:21:50>> AND I ASK THAT BECAUSE YOU

5:21:51KNOW, WE WE GET PLENTY OF

5:21:53EMAILS, SOCIAL MEDIA MESSAGES

5:21:54THAT THE TAXPAYERS FEEL LIKE

5:21:56WE'RE JUST HANDING IT OVER TO

5:21:58DEVELOPER AND I JUST WANT TO

5:21:59MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEARING THE

5:22:00AIR AND TRYING TO MEND THE

5:22:01RELATIONSHIP THERE.

5:22:02THAT'S ALL.

5:22:03THANK YOU.

5:22:04.

5:22:05>> OKAY SEE ANOTHER LIGHTS ON.

5:22:06JUST A REMINDER THERE WILL BE A

5:22:08SECOND AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING

5:22:10ON ORDINANCE 55 DASH 26 AND

5:22:13THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS SET FOR.

5:22:17OCTOBER 21ST UH 2026.

5:22:19MOVE ON.

5:22:20UH, ITEM C IS INTRODUCTIONS UH

5:22:24FIRST OF WHICH IS ORDINANCE 57

5:22:26DASH 26 MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE

5:22:29READ TITLE SET THE PUBLIC

5:22:30HEARING DATE.

5:22:32ORDINANCE 57 DASH 26 AN

5:22:34ORDINANCE OF THE MAYOR AND THE

5:22:36CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF

5:22:37CAPE CORAL, FLORIDA AMENDING

5:22:39THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL, FLORIDA

5:22:41LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BY

5:22:43AMENDING SECTION 7.3.1

5:22:46TEMPORARY SIGNS AS SET FORTH

5:22:48WITHIN ARTICLE SEVEN SIGNS

5:22:50CHAPTER THREE TEMPORARY SIGNS

5:22:53AUTHORIZING THE DISPLAY OF

5:22:54FEATHER BANNERS AT MULTIFAMILY

5:22:56RENTAL COMPLEXES PROVIDING FOR

5:22:59SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE

5:23:00DATE.

5:23:00THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE

5:23:03OCTOBER 21ST, 2026.

5:23:07OKAY.

5:23:07>> UH ANY DISCUSSION BY UH

5:23:10STAFF.

5:23:10OR COUNSEL COUNCIL MEMBER COULD

5:23:11DO.

5:23:12YEAH.

5:23:12>> UH, IT DOES SAY TO BE

5:23:14DETERMINED AFTER THE TEN SEVEN

5:23:15PNC HEARING WHAT HAPPENED

5:23:17TODAY?

5:23:19IS I BELIEVE ZONING.

5:23:21IT WAS.

5:23:22APPROVED OKAY.

5:23:23YEAH.

5:23:24>> I BELIEVE UNANIMOUSLY THERE

5:23:25WAS NO DISCUSSION OR ANYTHING

5:23:26ON THE TOPIC AT ALL.

5:23:27AWESOME.

5:23:27>> THANK YOU.

5:23:30OKAY LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 14

5:23:32NEW BUSINESS.

5:23:33AND I KNOW WE, UH, TOOK A BREAK

5:23:34ABOUT UH, 630 I THINK IT WAS

5:23:37645.

5:23:38SO WHY DON'T WE, UH WE TAKE TEN

5:23:40MINUTE, UH, BREAK AND THEN

5:23:42WE'LL DIVE INTO, UH, NEW

5:23:45BUSINESS, UH, DISCUSSION.

5:23:45SO WE'LL COME BACK ABOUT.

5:23:47930 TO.

5:23:48>>

5:34:20TO BASICALLY UH, SUBMIT IT

5:34:24TO UH FOR A DOA HEARING I

5:34:26BELIEVE.

5:34:28AND THERE IS ONE OTHER OPTIONS

5:34:31JUST SO COUNCIL HAS ALL THE

5:34:33OPTIONS ON THE TABLE UM AND I

5:34:35THINK IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER

5:34:37TONIGHT UH, ONE OF THE OTHER

5:34:39OPTIONS IS UH THERE COULD BE A

5:34:41HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UH

5:34:44,TO DETERMINE WHAT THE UH IF

5:34:46THERE'S ANY VALIDITY TO THE

5:34:48FORMAL PROTEST.

5:34:50I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT

5:34:52BEFORE US TONIGHT, BUT THAT IS

5:34:54AN ADDITIONAL OPTION THAT IS

5:34:56AVAILABLE TO US.

5:34:57IS THAT NOT CORRECT?

5:34:58THAT IS NOT CORRECT.

5:35:00BUT BEFORE.

5:35:00I GO FURTHER, I I DO WANT TO.

5:35:04>> THE STEAM THAT YOU ASKED ME

5:35:05TO.

5:35:05DIRECTED UH.

5:35:06TO ADDRESS TO THE COUNCIL.

5:35:08BEFORE I GO FORWARD.

5:35:10OKAY.

5:35:11>> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

5:35:12UM I NEED TO LET YOU KNOW AS I

5:35:14DID THE LAST TIME WHERE THERE

5:35:15WAS A DISCUSSION RELATED TO

5:35:18THIS THAT I NEED TO, UM, LEAVE

5:35:21THE MEETING AT THIS TIME

5:35:22MAUREEN.

5:35:22>> WILL TAKE.

5:35:23OVER FOR ME.

5:35:23I KNOW THERE WAS A RESIDENT WHO

5:35:25SPOKE TONIGHT ABOUT THAT.

5:35:27UM.

5:35:28>> I'M GOING TO LET YOU ALL

5:35:29KNOW THAT THE REASON I'M DOING

5:35:31THIS IS BECAUSE AS I TOLD HIM,

5:35:34UH, THERE WAS AN ACCUSATION

5:35:36MADE, UH, BY ONE OF YOU.

5:35:38>> ALL.

5:35:39THAT THERE WAS A POTENTIAL OR

5:35:41THERE WAS A PERCEPTION OF BID

5:35:42RIGGING.

5:35:43UH, I LATER LEARNED THAT THE

5:35:46THE PERSON THAT THAT WAS

5:35:49TARGETED TOO WAS ME.

5:35:50AND SO.

5:35:51UM.

5:35:52>> BUT EVEN PRIOR TO THAT

5:35:54LEARNING THAT, UH, I REPORTED

5:35:57THAT DIRECTLY AND PROMPTLY TO

5:35:59THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY

5:36:01AUDITOR AND OUR POLICE CHIEF

5:36:03WHO CONTACTED FDLE AND WHEN.

5:36:06THE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS CALLED.

5:36:08ABOUT EXPLAINING THE SITUATION,

5:36:12THEY DECLINED.

5:36:15FURTHERMORE, LATER IT WAS ALSO

5:36:17REPORTED TO ANOTHER CHARTERED

5:36:19OFFICER WHO CONTACTED THE CHIEF

5:36:22OF POLICE THAT THEN WENT TO THE

5:36:24STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND

5:36:25THERE STILL THE.

5:36:27COUNCIL MEMBER.

5:36:27REFUSED TO DISCUSS THAT.

5:36:30I HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY COUNSEL

5:36:31IN ORDER TO PROTECT THIS

5:36:34ORGANIZATION FROM THAT

5:36:36ACCUSATION THAT IN ANY

5:36:38DISCUSSION FROM THE DAY THAT

5:36:40WAS SAID I AM TO NO LONGER BE A

5:36:43PART OF ANY DISCUSSION SO NONE

5:36:45OF MY STAFF FEEL LIKE THEY ARE

5:36:47PRESSURED IN ANY WAY TO ANSWER

5:36:49ANY QUESTION.

5:36:51SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH.

5:36:53WHAT ONE SPEAKER SAID WAS.

5:36:54YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR.

5:36:56>> THE ANSWER.

5:36:56IT IS TO PROTECT THE

5:36:59ORGANIZATION AND ALLOW MY STAFF

5:37:01THE FREEDOM TO ANSWER HOWEVER

5:37:03THEY FEEL FIT.

5:37:04SO THAT ANY ACCUSATION OF BID

5:37:06RIGGING OR.

5:37:07IMPROPRIETY CAN BE DEFENDED AT

5:37:09THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

5:37:11SO WITH THAT I WILL BE LEAVING

5:37:13AGAIN AND NOT PARTICIPATING IN

5:37:14THIS DISCUSSION.

5:37:16TO PROTECT.

5:37:16AND DEFEND OUR CITY UNDER THE

5:37:20OATH THAT.

5:37:21>> I SAW.

5:37:21THANK YOU REAL QUICK.

5:37:22YOU'VE BEEN ADVISED BY LEGAL.

5:37:23COUNSEL NOT THIS COUNSEL.

5:37:25YES SIR.

5:37:26I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE

5:37:27BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YES.

5:37:28YES SIR LEGAL COUNSEL.

5:37:30>> NOT CITY COUNCIL.

5:37:30THANK YOU.

5:37:33AND MAYOR TO TO ADDRESS YOUR

5:37:35YOUR QUESTION THE THE

5:37:38INTIMATION BY.

5:37:39THE SPEAKER REGARDING A HEARING

5:37:41THIS IS THE HEARING BEFORE THE

5:37:45CITY COUNCIL.

5:37:45TO TAKE DEFINITIVE ACTION

5:37:48REGARDING THE BID PROTEST.

5:37:50AND UH.

5:37:51AND WHETHER OR NOT TO.

5:37:52EITHER DENY IT AND.

5:37:53>> OR REMOVE IT TO ADHERE TO

5:37:55THOSE RESOLUTIONS THAT.

5:37:57>> ARE BEFORE.

5:37:57YOU UH, THE.

5:37:58FIRST UH THE FIRST.

5:38:00TWO RESOLUTIONS ARE.

5:38:01FOR THE DENIAL THE.

5:38:03>> BID PROTEST BY THE CITY

5:38:04COUNCIL.

5:38:04THE SECOND UH C AND D ARE FOR.

5:38:07>> IT TO THAT TO.

5:38:08>> YOU IN FRONT.

5:38:09>> OF THE.

5:38:09>> DOA.

5:38:10SO THERE IS NO OTHER HEARING.

5:38:11THIS IS THE HEARING.

5:38:12THIS IS WHAT IS STATUTORILY OR

5:38:15EXCUSE ME THAT IS WHAT IS

5:38:16AUTHORIZED.

5:38:17THIS IS AN EXECUTIVE FUNCTION.

5:38:19UM AND BASED ON THAT EXECUTIVE

5:38:21FUNCTION YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY

5:38:24TO DO THAT.

5:38:26OKAY.

5:38:27>> ALL RIGHT.

5:38:30>> WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH,

5:38:31RESOLUTION 284.

5:38:32DASH 26 UH THERE IS UH

5:38:38OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF UH TO

5:38:39PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS UH WILL

5:38:42THERE BE ANY COMMENTS UH, BY

5:38:44STAFF.

5:38:45OR WOULD.

5:38:46ANY OF THE COMMENTS BE FROM THE

5:38:48CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE?

5:38:51STAFF IS PREPARED FOR.

5:38:53COMMENTS IF YOU WOULD LIKE IF

5:38:54COUNCIL WOULD LIKE.

5:38:55OKAY MAY OR MAY I HAVE A I'M

5:38:59CONFUSED ALL RIGHT I REALLY AM.

5:39:00HAPPY AFTER 9 P.M..

5:39:02ABOUT THE ORDER I REALLY AM I'M

5:39:06SO I THINK SOMEBODY MENTIONED

5:39:07IT.

5:39:10THE FIRST TWO ARE ABOUT

5:39:12AWARDING THE CONTRACT IF I'M

5:39:13NOT MISTAKEN.

5:39:14NO THAT IS NOT IT.

5:39:15WELL OKAY SO AND.

5:39:16THEN I MEAN THAT'S PARCEL

5:39:18PARTIALLY.

5:39:19TO FURTHER I.

5:39:20JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S.

5:39:21THE FIRST TWO RESOLUTIONS

5:39:23RESOLUTION 284.

5:39:24DASH 2625 DASH 26 IS

5:39:28AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUATION OF

5:39:30THE.

5:39:30PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

5:39:32UH AND ALSO FOR THE DENIAL OF

5:39:34THE BID PROTEST WHATEVER.

5:39:36AWARD FOR ANY CONTRACTUAL

5:39:38AGREEMENT WILL BE A REQUIREMENT

5:39:40OF THE ADMINISTRATION STAFF TO

5:39:41.

5:39:42BRING BEFORE.

5:39:42YOU IN.

5:39:43ANOTHER MEETING NOT THIS ONE.

5:39:46SO SO THE.

5:39:48FIRST ONE IS.

5:39:49TO WAS NOT JUST TO KEEP THE

5:39:52PROCESS MOVING WITH WHOMEVER

5:39:54HAS BEEN SELECTED.

5:39:56WHOEVER HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY

5:39:58ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

5:39:59FOR THE PURPOSES OF UH THE

5:40:02PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

5:40:03CORRECT.

5:40:04>> AND THEN THE SECOND ONE

5:40:05OKAY.

5:40:05SO THAT SO WHATEVER HAPPENED

5:40:07THAT KEITH MOVE IT AND THE

5:40:09SECOND ONE YOU JUST SAID.

5:40:11THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT.

5:40:12>> THERE ARE TWO.

5:40:13DIFFERENT OR ARE THERE TWO

5:40:14DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT

5:40:15SUBMITTED BID PROTEST THE

5:40:18RESOLUTIONS ARE SEPARATED BY

5:40:19THE INDIVIDUAL BID PROTEST IN

5:40:22UH COMPANIES.

5:40:24RIGHT.

5:40:25SO WHAT ITEM B IS THE WHAT

5:40:28PROTEST FROM HOME.

5:40:29ITEM B IS WASTE PRO OF FLORIDA

5:40:31.

5:40:32INC AND THEN ITEM C WOULD BE.

5:40:34WELL ITEM A SO ITEM A HAS TO DO

5:40:37WITH COASTAL WASTE SITE WASTE

5:40:39AND RECYCLING.

5:40:40INC MOVING.

5:40:41IS WASTE PRO FLORIDA INC AND

5:40:43THEN C IS.

5:40:45FOR UH IT TO BE REFERRED OVER

5:40:47TO.

5:40:47>> THE.

5:40:48ADMINISTRATIVE UM UH.

5:40:48DONE DEPARTMENT OF.

5:40:49ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS.

5:40:51AND THAT'S THE C IS FOR COASTAL

5:40:53WASTE RECYCLING INC AND D IS

5:40:55FOR WASTE.

5:40:58PRO OF FLORIDA INC.

5:41:03B AND D O WASTE PRO.

5:41:05B AND D.

5:41:06>> R WASTE PRO A AND C.

5:41:09ARE COASTAL WASTE AND

5:41:12RECYCLING.

5:41:15THANK YOU.

5:41:18ALL RIGHT.

5:41:20.

5:41:21>> UM COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER

5:41:23KIERAN.

5:41:23YOU'RE OFF.

5:41:24UH ARE.

5:41:26WE GOING TO.

5:41:26BE DISCUSSION.

5:41:28ON THIS NOW OR DID YOU WANT A

5:41:30MOTION OR UH.

5:41:31UM I'M NOT SURE.

5:41:32WE NEED A MOTION HERE OR WE

5:41:35COULD JUST BEGIN DISCUSSION.

5:41:37YEP.

5:41:38OKAY.

5:41:38UM OR.

5:41:39>> DO WE NEED A MOTION?

5:41:40I WOULD I WOULD I WOULD.

5:41:41ENCOURAGE YOU.

5:41:42>> TO MAKE A MOTION.

5:41:42UM.

5:41:43>> IF THAT'S WHAT.

5:41:45>> YOU WANT TO DO.

5:41:45BUT WE SHOULD DISCUSS IT.

5:41:48WHICH COST?

5:41:49I WOULD.

5:41:50>> TALK ABOUT IT, I THINK.

5:41:50WELL.

5:41:51ARE WE COMPELLED TO MAKE A

5:41:53MOTION FIRST?

5:41:54NO.

5:41:55>> ALL RIGHT.

5:41:56THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER KILL.

5:41:57OKAY, UM.

5:41:58JUST MY.

5:42:0330,000FT VIEW OF THIS.

5:42:05LOOKING DOWN AND TRYING TO COME

5:42:07CLOSE TO IT.

5:42:08UM, BASICALLY FROM A STATUTE

5:42:11STANDPOINT, UH, THEY PRETTY

5:42:13MUCH JUST RELATE TO THE

5:42:14SUNSHINE LAW AND FOR ANY UH,

5:42:19HEARING AFTER THAT IT REALLY UH

5:42:22THEY'RE DEFERRING TO OUR

5:42:24ORDINANCE THAT MIGHT BE IN

5:42:25PLACE AND OR A RESOLUTION THAT

5:42:27WE WOULD PUT IN PLACE.

5:42:28SO THE KEY THINGS TO ME ARE

5:42:31THAT WE WERE FAIR IN GOING

5:42:35THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THAT WE

5:42:39EXECUTED ACCORDING TO WHAT OUR

5:42:41STANDARD OUR RFP WOULD BE.

5:42:44UH, AND UH THE ULTIMATE THING

5:42:48IN THIS OF COURSE IS TRYING TO

5:42:51NEGOTIATE IT TO THE POINT WHERE

5:42:51WE GET THE BEST PRICED OFF

5:42:53OPTION.

5:42:54UH, AND MY DISCUSSIONS WITH

5:42:58CITY ATTORNEY HAVE BEEN THAT WE

5:43:01HAVE PRETTY MUCH FOLLOWED THE

5:43:03PROPER PRICING.

5:43:04SO I DON'T KNOW OF ANY ISSUES

5:43:06THAT HE HAS FLAGGED.

5:43:08THAT WAS A DEVIATION FROM THE

5:43:10PROCESS AND AS A RESULT OF

5:43:12THAT, UM.

5:43:13I I'M.

5:43:15NOT SURE.

5:43:15WHY THE HEARINGS UH WILL HAVE

5:43:21ANY BENEFIT OTHER THAN

5:43:24PROLONGING THE PROCESS AND

5:43:26BRINGING IT BACK TO A STATE

5:43:27WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE THEY'RE

5:43:28GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION

5:43:29.

5:43:30THERE'S NOT A BINDING

5:43:31RECOMMENDATION AS I UNDERSTAND

5:43:32IT.

5:43:33SO IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO

5:43:34US AGAIN ANYWAY.

5:43:35SO TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS

5:43:38CHOOSE YOUR TIME.

5:43:39AND UM MY CONCERN IS THAT UH, A

5:43:43LOT OF THE DISCUSSION THAT I'VE

5:43:44HAD ON ONE ON ONES IS THAT IT'S

5:43:47GOING TO DELAY THE PROCESS TO A

5:43:48POINT IN WHICH WE'RE GOING TO

5:43:51NOT BE ABLE TO PUT A NEW

5:43:53CONTRACT IN PLACE BY THE

5:43:55SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 27.

5:43:57AND I HEARD DISCUSSION TONIGHT

5:44:00THAT REFUTES THAT.

5:44:01UH, BUT ALL MY DISCUSSIONS HAVE

5:44:04BEEN THAT, UH, WITH OUR OUR

5:44:06CITY STAFF HAVE BEEN THAT IT

5:44:09WOULD PUT THAT AT RISK AND

5:44:13THAT'S THAT'S MY MY MAIN

5:44:15CONCERN UH I'M GOING TO PUT

5:44:16THOSE OUT ON THE TABLE RIGHT

5:44:17NOW AT THIS STAGE UNLESS I'M

5:44:20CONVINCED OTHERWISE I'D BE

5:44:22SUPPORTING JUST GOING FORWARD

5:44:23WITH THE PROCESS.

5:44:24BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT

5:44:26MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO.

5:44:27SAY TOO.

5:44:27THANK YOU.

5:44:28MAYOR.

5:44:29COUNCIL MEMBER LONG.

5:44:30THANK YOU.

5:44:31>> MAYOR YEAH I JUST I WANTED

5:44:32TO BRING UM, SOME PERSPECTIVE

5:44:34TO THIS JUST FROM A PROCEDURAL

5:44:36LEVEL BEFORE WE EVEN TALK ABOUT

5:44:37THE MATERIAL STUFF.

5:44:38I PERSONALLY.

5:44:38>> WOULD.

5:44:39PREFER THAT WE DIDN'T TALK

5:44:40ABOUT THE MATERIAL ISSUES HERE

5:44:41FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT

5:44:42THE MAIN ONE IS THAT WE DON'T

5:44:44HAVE TO I THINK BY THE WAY THAT

5:44:45THIS WAS SET UP WHICH WAS WELL

5:44:47INTENTIONED AT THE ONSET UM AND

5:44:49STILL REMAINS THAT WAY WAS THAT

5:44:50WE'D HIRED A THIRD PARTY

5:44:51CONSULTANT TO DO THIS SO THAT

5:44:53COUNCIL HAD NO DIRECT

5:44:54INVOLVEMENT.

5:44:54OKAY.

5:44:55>> NOW OBVIOUSLY AS IT IS IN

5:44:58BUSINESS WHEN THESE THINGS GO.

5:44:59FORWARD THERE'S A WINNERS AND

5:45:01THERE'S LOSERS AND AND THEN THE

5:45:03LOSERS IN THIS SCENARIO PROTEST

5:45:05.

5:45:05BUT WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.

5:45:07SO GOING.

5:45:08>> DOWN THAT SAME PATH NOW THE

5:45:09PROTEST IS APPARENTLY LANDING

5:45:10IN OUR LEFT WHEN THE DESIGN

5:45:11ORIGINALLY WAS TO HAVE IT

5:45:13KICKED OUT HAD THEM BRING A

5:45:14SINGULAR BEST BID TO US BASED

5:45:16ON A NUMBER OF CRITERIA BECAUSE

5:45:17THAT'S THEIR EXPERTS IN THEIR

5:45:18FIELDS.

5:45:19UM AND WE HAVE AN UP WE HAVE AN

5:45:21.

5:45:21OPPORTUNITY HERE.

5:45:22TO DO.

5:45:22>> WHAT OUR ORDINANCE AFFORDS

5:45:23US TO DO WHICH IS SIMPLY TO SAY

5:45:25.

5:45:26LET'S FORWARD THIS.

5:45:28TO DOA AND ALLOW THEM TO.

5:45:31MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THE

5:45:32PROTEST WHICH AGAIN RELEASES US

5:45:34FROM MAKING THOSE DECISIONS

5:45:35WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY THE

5:45:36INTENT.

5:45:36WE'VE GOT A CITY MANAGER NOW

5:45:37THAT CAN'T EVEN HEAR THE

5:45:39DISCUSSION THAT EXPLAINS THE

5:45:41MAGNITUDE OF THE SITUATION.

5:45:42UM, SO IT WOULD BE BEST TO ME.

5:45:45NOT AS YOUR ATTORNEY BUT AS AN

5:45:47ATTORNEY.

5:45:47TO SIMPLY ALLOW.

5:45:49>> FOR THE ORDINANCE TO DO WHAT

5:45:50IT WAS INTENDED TO DO AND

5:45:52RECOMMEND THAT THESE MOVE

5:45:53FORWARD TO DOA, WHICH IS A

5:45:54THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATIVE

5:45:55HEARING OFFICER TO REVIEW THE

5:45:57FACTS.

5:45:58FRANKLY, THEY'RE IN A BETTER,

5:45:59BETTER SUITED FROM A LEGAL

5:46:00POSITION TO DO THAT THAN

5:46:01OURSELVES ANYWAYS.

5:46:02AND THEN I THINK COUNCILMEMBER.

5:46:04KILROY AND HIS POINT WHEN IT

5:46:05COMES BACK IT'S.

5:46:06>> GOING TO COME BACK TO US

5:46:07ANYWAYS.

5:46:07BUT WHEN.

5:46:08>> IT COME BACK COMES BACK TO

5:46:08US IT WILL BE.

5:46:09DILUTED INTO A RECOMMENDED.

5:46:11ORDER WHICH IS ROOTED IN.

5:46:13LOGIC AND LEGAL REASONING FROM

5:46:16THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING

5:46:17OFFICER.

5:46:17AND SO THAT WAY TO.

5:46:18ME IF.

5:46:20>> THERE'S LEGITIMACY TO.

5:46:21THE DISPUTE IT COMES BACK INTO

5:46:22STATES AS SUCH.

5:46:23IF THERE'S NOT THE

5:46:24ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER

5:46:26REVIEWS THAT LOOKS AT THE LAW

5:46:28AND MAKES THAT DETERMINATION

5:46:29AND EITHER WAY WE HAVEN'T

5:46:30INSERTED OURSELVES INTO A

5:46:32SITUATION THAT FRANKLY.

5:46:33>> WE DON'T NEED TO BE IN.

5:46:34IT WAS.

5:46:35DESIGNED FOR US NOT TO BE.

5:46:36UM AND THAT OFFERED THE

5:46:38OPPORTUNITIES AFFORDED TO US IN

5:46:40SECTION 2-150 WHICH YOU KNOW,

5:46:43OBVIOUSLY I BELIEVE IS

5:46:45REFLECTED IN ONE OF THE.

5:46:46UM ITEMS BEFORE.

5:46:47US BUT IT'S FRANKLY JUST A

5:46:50RECOMMEND THESE TWO.

5:46:51DOA AND ALLOW THAT PROCESS TO

5:46:53PLAY OUT AS I'VE EXPLAINED.

5:46:54THAT WOULD BE WHAT I'M DOING.

5:46:56ANYTHING CONTRARY TO THAT I

5:46:57WOULD I WOULD NOT SUPPORT UM

5:46:58BUT THAT'S CLEAN.

5:46:59IT'S EASY.

5:47:00IT REMOVES US FROM THE

5:47:03SITUATION.

5:47:03IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR US TO SIT

5:47:05UP HERE AND EXPLAIN AND HAVE

5:47:07STAFF EXPLAIN.

5:47:08HOW AND WHEN AND WHY AND MAYBE

5:47:09IF WE DID OR DIDN'T MAKE

5:47:11MISTAKES IT'S REALLY THE ONLY

5:47:12ANSWER IN MY MIND.

5:47:14UM BUT BUT THAT'S ALL FOR NOW.

5:47:16THANK YOU.

5:47:16COUNCILMEMBER GROUP.

5:47:18THANK YOU MAYOR.

5:47:19IF WE DO NOT MAKE A DECISION

5:47:20AND THIS GOES TO DOA, WHAT

5:47:23EXACTLY HAPPENS WITH OUR

5:47:24CONTRACT WITH WASTE PRO DOES IT

5:47:26GO MONTH.

5:47:26TO MONTH?

5:47:28I'M GOING.

5:47:29>> TO LET MR. MASON JUST OUT

5:47:30OF.

5:47:33UH TO TO ANSWER.

5:47:35>> RIGHT NOW OUR CONTRACT.

5:47:36WITH WASTE PRO GOES.

5:47:38THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OF THE

5:47:40YEAR 2027.

5:47:41AND THEN AND NOW LET MR. MASON

5:47:43GO.

5:47:44WELL AND I WAS ASKING BECAUSE

5:47:45IT SAYS IN SOME OF OUR BACKUP

5:47:46MATERIALS THAT THESE PRICE

5:47:48PRICES ARE ONLY GOOD THROUGH

5:47:49DECEMBER 1ST.

5:47:50SO THEN ARE WE GOING OUT FOR A

5:47:51REBID?

5:47:51I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT

5:47:53WHAT THE LIKE WHAT THE TIMELINE

5:47:54OF ALL THIS IS.

5:47:57OKAY.

5:47:57>> SO UH.

5:48:00IT I DON'T RECALL ANYTHING.

5:48:03WELL ANYWAYS, AS FAR AS THE BID

5:48:04140 DAYS.

5:48:05YEAH.

5:48:06>> UH.

5:48:08>> IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE THE AS

5:48:11THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST STATED,

5:48:12UH, WASTE PRO'S CONTRACT GOES

5:48:14THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH.

5:48:15UM, WHAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU IS

5:48:17INFORMATION AND THERE'S A

5:48:18PRESENTATION THAT WE GAVE YOU

5:48:20THAT IT KIND OF IDENTIFIES SOME

5:48:22OF YOUR OPTIONS.

5:48:22ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS IS IS THAT

5:48:24YOU CAN SIT.

5:48:25AS THE.

5:48:25>> HEARING OFFICERS AND MAKE

5:48:26THE DETERMINATION AS WE'VE

5:48:28GIVEN YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO

5:48:29OR YOU CAN SEND IT OFF TO DOA,

5:48:32UH, WHICH AGAIN YOU HAVE THE

5:48:33RESOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW YOU TO

5:48:34DO THAT AS WELL.

5:48:35THE DOA PROCESS IS ANYWHERE

5:48:37BETWEEN 4 TO 6 MONTHS DEPENDING

5:48:39FROM THE TIME THAT WE SEND IT

5:48:40TO THE TIME THAT THEY ACTUALLY

5:48:41HEAR IT, TIME THAT THEY SEND IT

5:48:43BACK AND IT GETS BACK BEFORE

5:48:44THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL

5:48:46WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE IF THE

5:48:48PROTESTER ACTUALLY SUSTAINED

5:48:50THE ORDINANCE.

5:48:51I MEAN OUR ORDINANCE HAS A

5:48:54REMEDY ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND

5:48:55THAT REMEDY IS THAT WE WOULD

5:48:57REIMBURSE THE BIDDER BACK FOR

5:48:59THE REASONABLE COSTS ASSOCIATED

5:49:00WITH THE BID.

5:49:02THE RESULTANT IS IS THAT, YOU

5:49:05KNOW, YOU WOULD THEN REBID AT

5:49:06THAT TIME NOT THE TIME OF

5:49:09DECEMBER OR WHATEVER.

5:49:10IT'S YOU'D IF WE'RE GOING TO

5:49:12SEND IT OFF TO DOA, YOU'D WAIT

5:49:14UNTIL WHATEVER COMES BACK AND

5:49:15THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION ABOUT

5:49:17WHETHER YOU'RE BETTER.

5:49:17YOU DON'T.

5:49:18THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS THE

5:49:20TRANSITION TIME AND THOSE

5:49:22TRANSITIONAL.

5:49:22RATES AND THE TRANSITION RISK

5:49:25YOU HEARD FROM ONE.

5:49:27UH UH UH.

5:49:30YOU HEARD FROM COASTAL EARLIER

5:49:32THAT SAYS HEY LOOK WE DID THIS

5:49:34OVER IN.

5:49:34>> PALM.

5:49:35BEACH COUNTY.

5:49:35WE CAN DO IT IN FIVE.

5:49:36MONTHS, OKAY?

5:49:37THE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE THAT WE

5:49:39THE CITY AND THE COMMITTEE THAT

5:49:42ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE

5:49:43PROCESS AND GRADED AND RANKED

5:49:46BASED UPON THEIR.

5:49:49PROPOSAL AND THE INFORMATION

5:49:50PROVIDED IN THEIR PROPOSAL AS

5:49:52WELL AS THE UH THE PEOPLE THAT

5:49:54WE CONTACTED AS WELL AS THEIR

5:49:56PRICING HAS INDICATED THAT THEY

5:49:58CANNOT GO BEYOND DECEMBER FOR A

5:50:00REASONABLE TRANSITION OR A

5:50:03REASONABLY SMOOTH TRANSITION TO

5:50:05GET EVERYTHING IN PLACE BY THE

5:50:07TIME UH, OCTOBER 1ST COMES

5:50:09AROUND.

5:50:10SO THE FOR US IF YOU REBID AND

5:50:14YOU DECIDE TO DO THAT TONIGHT

5:50:17UH I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHETHER

5:50:18YOU'D HAVE ALL THREE THAT WOULD

5:50:20THAT WOULD BID OR NOT.

5:50:22UH BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE

5:50:24STILL UNDER THE.

5:50:25CLOUD ASSOCIATED WITH THE WITH

5:50:26THE BID PROTESTS.

5:50:29OKAY.

5:50:30>> IN YOUR UPDATED PRESENTATION

5:50:32IT DOES SAY THAT FCC

5:50:34ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES FLORIDA

5:50:36LLC, THE SOLID WASTE

5:50:36COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION

5:50:37VENDOR FOR SOLID WASTE

5:50:38SERVICES, HAS INDICATED THAT IT

5:50:39WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO

5:50:41TRANSITION THE EXISTING

5:50:41CONTRACT IF THE AWARD IS

5:50:42DELAYED BEYOND DECEMBER 1ST.

5:50:44THAT'S CORRECT.

5:50:44THAT INFO.

5:50:45THAT'S WHERE YOU GOT THAT.

5:50:47INFORMATION AND.

5:50:48>> WE HAVE NO TIMELINE ON DOA.

5:50:50THAT OUR TIMELINE AND WHAT WE

5:50:53UNDERSTAND AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN

5:50:54THROUGH AND SENDING THINGS TO

5:50:56DOA IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN THREE

5:50:57TO 4 TO 6 MONTHS.

5:51:02OKAY.

5:51:03SO OKAY.

5:51:05AND ULTIMATELY AGAIN THE REMEDY

5:51:08IS IS THAT IF IT'S SUSTAINED

5:51:10THERE'S A REMEDY IN OUR

5:51:11ORDINANCE REGARDING THAT IF

5:51:12IT'S NOT SUSTAINED IT'S BEEN

5:51:15SIX MONTHS TO MAKE THAT FINAL

5:51:16DETERMINATION OF WHETHER IT'S

5:51:17SUSTAINED OR NOT.

5:51:18THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WE'VE

5:51:20PROVIDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL

5:51:22UH, WITH REGARD TO THE THE UH

5:51:25RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE OF

5:51:27THE.

5:51:27UM OF THE PROTEST OUTLINES THE

5:51:31PROTEST ITEMS AND OUR

5:51:33RESPONSES.

5:51:33TO THOSE PROTEST ITEMS.

5:51:35I GUESS WHY I'M A LITTLE BIT

5:51:36PEEVED IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE

5:51:38IN THIS SITUATION AND UP

5:51:40AGAINST THE CLOCK IS BECAUSE

5:51:40THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO

5:51:42COUNCIL OVERSIGHT.

5:51:43AT ALL.

5:51:44>> AND WE DIDN'T FOLLOW OUR OWN

5:51:46EVALUATION PROCESS.

5:51:47SO WE'RE SITTING HERE TODAY

5:51:47BECAUSE OF THAT.

5:51:48I DON'T I DISAGREE WE DID

5:51:51FOLLOW OUR EVALUATION PROCESS.

5:51:53OKAY AS FAR AS AN OVERSIGHT IS

5:51:55CONCERNED I'M NOT SURE WHAT

5:51:56WOULD HAVE HAPPENED WITH THAT

5:51:57EITHER.

5:51:58SO MADAM CITY CLERK, WE PLEASE

5:52:01PUT UP THE PAPER THAT I

5:52:03PROVIDED.

5:52:26OH YEAH.

5:52:29MR. MASON THIS HAS BEEN EMAILED

5:52:32TO COUNCIL AND YOURSELF

5:52:34MULTIPLE TIMES.

5:52:36WE ARE IN STEP FOUR.

5:52:39I'M ASKING A QUESTION.

5:52:45YEAH.

5:52:46.

5:52:47I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING ME A

5:52:48QUESTION.

5:52:48THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM OUR.

5:52:49RFP PROCESS EVALUATION PROCESS.

5:52:52WHAT STEP ARE WE IN?

5:52:55WELL, IN THIS PARTICULAR

5:52:56CIRCUMSTANCE SINCE WE DIDN'T

5:52:57BRING YOU FORWARD AN ORDINANCE.

5:52:59THERE'S NO COUNCIL.

5:53:00AND WE'VE.

5:53:00INDICATED TO YOU THAT WE'VE WE

5:53:02HAVE IDENTIFIED A TOP RANKED

5:53:03FIRM AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT

5:53:05.

5:53:06AND THE TOP RANK FIRMED WAS

5:53:09NEVER PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.

5:53:11WHEN WAS IT PRESENTED TO

5:53:14COUNCIL.

5:53:14SO GOT THE FIGURES.

5:53:17YES I'D LIKE TO HAVE ONE GROUP

5:53:20OUR PROCUREMENT MANAGER.

5:53:21RESPONSIVE AND.

5:53:22PROCUREMENT MANAGER.

5:53:24OUR EVALUATION.

5:53:25PROCESS WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING.

5:53:27THERE IT DOES.

5:53:28SHOW CERTAIN STEPS THAT WE DO.

5:53:30THERE'S ALSO.

5:53:32TERMS AND CONDITIONS WITHIN OUR

5:53:34SOLICITATION AND I WANT TO.

5:53:36BEING PROCUREMENT.

5:53:37>> AND ALL I JUST WANT TO MAKE

5:53:38SURE THIS IS OUR SOLICITATION

5:53:41REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WHICH UM

5:53:44WAS NOT A BID TO DOESN'T HAVE

5:53:46LIKE.

5:53:46A TERM PER SE.

5:53:49OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS ALSO

5:53:51STATE THAT THE CITY UM

5:53:55EVALUATES OR DETERMINED BASED

5:53:57ON OUR ORDINANCE.

5:53:58IF YOU GO TO OUR ORDINANCE OUR

5:54:00ORDINANCE UNDER RANKING IS THE

5:54:01CITY MANAGER DESIGNEE THE RANK

5:54:05WE NORMALLY UNDER GENERAL

5:54:07PRACTICE DO NOT BRING REQUEST

5:54:09FOR PROPOSALS RANKING IN FRONT

5:54:11OF COUNCIL.

5:54:12WE DO WANT TO HAVE AN ABILITY

5:54:15TO DEPENDING HOW THE PROCESS IS

5:54:17MOVING TO BRING IF WE NEED TO.

5:54:20SO WE MENTIONED PART OF WHAT

5:54:22CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN THIS

5:54:24DOCUMENT AND THE TERMS AND

5:54:25CONDITIONS IN OUR ORDINANCE.

5:54:27SO THE PRACTICE WAS FOLLOWED

5:54:31THE PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED.

5:54:34WE NORMALLY DO NOT BRING THE

5:54:35ITEMS IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.

5:54:36ANY REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS IN

5:54:38FRONT OF COUNCIL FOR THE

5:54:40RANKING OR SCORING UNTIL WE

5:54:42BRING THE CONTRACT BECAUSE AT

5:54:43THAT TIME WE'RE LETTING YOU ALL

5:54:46KNOW HERE'S THE RANKINGS,

5:54:48HERE'S THE CONTRACT AND COUNCIL

5:54:50MAKES A DETERMINATION OF YES OR

5:54:52NO OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

5:54:55>> CAN YOU SCOOT THE PAPER UP

5:54:56JUST A TAD?

5:54:59STEP FOUR FIVE AND SIX.

5:55:02UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE FINAL

5:55:04RANKING BY THE CITY COUNCIL

5:55:07THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.

5:55:09I'M ASKING WHERE WE'RE AT IN

5:55:10THIS PROCESS.

5:55:13I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE

5:55:16ASKING.

5:55:16WHAT I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS

5:55:18THAT AS A MINISTRATION WE MADE

5:55:21THE DETERMINATION THAT BASED ON

5:55:24THE SCORES WE WERE GOING TO

5:55:25BRING EVERYTHING TO COUNCIL AT

5:55:27ONCE.

5:55:29THERE'S MAY MAY BE BROUGHT TO

5:55:31COUNCIL OR THE COUNCIL MAY

5:55:33APPROVE THE RANKING UNDERSTAND

5:55:34US AS WELL THERE I AM 100% WITH

5:55:36YOU THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS

5:55:38WITHIN THE SOLICITATIONS WHICH

5:55:40IS NOT IN ELMO RIGHT NOW ALSO

5:55:45REFLECT THAT THE CITY RESERVES

5:55:47THE RIGHT TO USE THE APPLICABLE

5:55:49UM RULING AND WE WENT BACK TO

5:55:51OUR ORDINANCE WHICH LISTS CITY

5:55:54ADMINISTRATION CITY MANAGER

5:55:55DESIGNEE RANK.

5:55:58WELL THIS IS STRAIGHT.

5:55:59FROM OUR RFP.

5:56:00SO IT SAYS CITY COUNCIL NOT US

5:56:02NOT THE CITY MANAGER OR ITS

5:56:04DESIGNEE.

5:56:05AND WHEN YOU ARE SENDING A

5:56:07NOTICE TO AWARD.

5:56:08THE CONTRACT.

5:56:09TO VENDORS ON SPECIFIC DATES IT

5:56:13NEVER CAME BEFORE COUNCIL.

5:56:14IT IS AN INTENT AND THAT'S WHY

5:56:16WE HAVE A MECHANISM THAT IF.

5:56:18BUT IF WE CAN OKAY LET'S GO

5:56:20BACK TO NUMBER FIVE NOW THE

5:56:21CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE

5:56:22RANKING.

5:56:23WILL REQUIRE PUBLIC

5:56:24PRESENTATIONS BY THE TOP THREE

5:56:25FIRMS TO DETERMINE.

5:56:25THE FINAL RANKING.

5:56:26WHY WOULD YOU.

5:56:28INTEND TO.

5:56:28>> AWARD A CONTRACT IF WE.

5:56:29CAN RANK.

5:56:32AND THAT CAN BE DONE WHEN WE

5:56:34BRING EVERYTHING TO YOUR WANTS

5:56:35.

5:56:36OUR NORMAL PRACTICE IS OUR

5:56:38REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AND

5:56:41ADMINISTRATIVELY THEY SCORE.

5:56:43ONCE THEY SCORE WE SEND AN

5:56:46INTENT.

5:56:46WE GIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE

5:56:48VENDORS TO EITHER TELL US THAT

5:56:51THEY HAVE A QUESTION OR NOT A

5:56:53PROTEST AND THEN WE GO AHEAD

5:56:55AND PACKAGE EVERYTHING AND

5:56:56BRING IT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL SO

5:56:59WE CANNOT AWARD COUNCIL AWARDS

5:57:02AND DETERMINES AT THAT TIME YES

5:57:05THE EVALUATION MATRIX THAT'S

5:57:06WHY THE EVALUATION MATRIX IS

5:57:07PART OF THE PACKAGE THE.

5:57:09RFP.

5:57:09>> THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS,

5:57:11ANY DOCUMENTS THAT WE FEEL THAT

5:57:13NEEDS TO BE PART.

5:57:14OF THIS RIGHT.

5:57:16>> AND ACCORDING TO ALL THE

5:57:17ADDENDUMS YOU KNOW THE FINAL

5:57:18BID HAD TO BE IN BY APRIL 30TH

5:57:21AND HERE WE ARE ON OCTOBER 7TH

5:57:23BEING PRESENTED THIS FOR THE

5:57:24FIRST TIME.

5:57:25SO I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

5:57:27IF IT TAKES US LONGER THAN WE

5:57:28HAVE TO GO TO DOA AND WE HAVE

5:57:29TO WAIT, WE SO BE IT UH IT I

5:57:33UNDERSTAND A FEW WEEKS OF

5:57:35NEGOTIATING BUT IT'S BEEN FIVE

5:57:37MONTHS AND IT'S FINALLY COMING

5:57:38BEFORE US.

5:57:39IF I MAY I WOULD LIKE TO

5:57:40EXPLAIN THAT AS WELL.

5:57:41OKAY.

5:57:41BECAUSE WE KEEP TRACK OF

5:57:43EVERYTHING WHEN WE RECEIVE OUR

5:57:44REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL ESPECIALLY

5:57:46FOR THIS DOLLAR VALUE WE HAVE

5:57:48TO DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE.

5:57:50WE DID ENGAGE A CONSULTANT AND

5:57:52THE CONSULTANT ALSO DID HIS UM

5:57:54DUE DILIGENCE.

5:57:55WE LOOKED AT THE COST

5:57:57ASSOCIATED WITH IT SO HE THAT

5:57:59TOOK TIME.

5:58:00ONCE THAT TOOK TIME WE WENT

5:58:02AHEAD AND UM MET WITH ALL THREE

5:58:06FIRMS BECAUSE WE FELT THEY WERE

5:58:07ALL VERY STRONG CANDIDATES AND

5:58:09WE WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION

5:58:10WITH THEM.

5:58:11AND THE EVALUATION TEAM MET

5:58:12WITH ALL THREE.

5:58:13THAT TOOK TIME.

5:58:15SO SOMETIMES SCHEDULING

5:58:16EVERYTHING IN IN A MONTH IS A

5:58:18LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT RIGHT?

5:58:19SO ONCE WE WENT FORWARD WITH

5:58:21THAT THEN WE ISSUED THE INTENT

5:58:24AROUND AUGUST AFTER ALL OF THE

5:58:26DUE DILIGENCE, ALL OF THE

5:58:27INTERVIEWS, ALL OF UM THAT

5:58:29PROCESS OCCURRED AT THAT POINT.

5:58:32THEN WE GOT AN INTENT TO

5:58:34PROTEST AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS

5:58:36WE THEY HAVE TEN DAYS TO

5:58:38DETERMINE IF THEY'RE GOING TO

5:58:39MOVE FORWARD OR NOT.

5:58:40SO EVERY ASPECT OF PROCUREMENT

5:58:42OF PUBLIC PROCUREMENT TAKES

5:58:45TIME AND YES IT LOOKED FROM IS

5:58:49THE END OF APRIL AND HERE'S

5:58:51SEPTEMBER OR.

5:58:51OCTOBER I GUESS WE'RE IN

5:58:52OCTOBER BUT IS PRETTY MUCH WAS

5:58:54JUST TIMING TO GET THINGS

5:58:55EITHER ON COUNCIL GET THINGS

5:58:57SCHEDULED OR.

5:58:58GIVE EVERYONE THE OPPORTUNITY

5:59:00TO FOLLOW.

5:59:00FOR EXAMPLE THE PROTEST THEY

5:59:03HAD TEN DAYS TO CALENDAR DAYS

5:59:04ONCE THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO

5:59:05UH INTEND TO PROTEST TO BRING

5:59:07US SOMETHING FORWARD.

5:59:08THEN WE WENT AHEAD AND

5:59:11DISCUSSED BECAUSE WE TAKE A

5:59:12PROTEST IN EFFECT SOME KIND OF

5:59:14FILE.

5:59:15UM UH, STRONG IS BECAUSE THIS

5:59:18IS VERY CLOSE TO.

5:59:20WHAT YOU KNOW, MEAN THIS IS

5:59:20WHAT I DO RIGHT?

5:59:21AND WE TAKE EVERY SINGLE

5:59:23PROTEST INTENT OR FORMAL VERY

5:59:26SERIOUSLY.

5:59:27SO THE VERY FIRST THING WE DO

5:59:28IS WE GO WE LEGAL BECAUSE IF

5:59:30THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE FEEL

5:59:32THAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE

5:59:33DIFFERENT OR WASN'T VERY WASN'T

5:59:35FOR THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE

5:59:37CITY.

5:59:37WE STOP.

5:59:39IN THIS CASE ALL OF THE

5:59:41DISCUSSION WAS WELL LET'S MOVE

5:59:41FORWARD.

5:59:42AND WE DID.

5:59:43SO ONCE WE RECEIVED THEIR FORM

5:59:44OF PROTEST WE REVISIT IT AGAIN

5:59:46.

5:59:47ONCE WE DID THAT WE DETERMINED

5:59:49WE NEEDED TO THEN BRING IT

5:59:50FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND THIS IS

5:59:52THIS IS WHERE.

5:59:53WE ARE.

5:59:53>> YEAH.

5:59:54THANK YOU.

5:59:54THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION

5:59:55.

5:59:55AND I KNOW THAT ON APRIL 29TH

5:59:57OF 2025 SO A LONG TIME AGO IS

6:00:01WHEN WE COUNCIL AWARDED THE

6:00:03CONTRACT TO KESLER CONSULTING

6:00:04TO PROVIDE THE SOLID WASTE

6:00:06CONSULTING AND THEN I HAPPENED

6:00:08TO BE DIGGING TO PREPARE FOR

6:00:09THIS MEETING TODAY AND I FOUND

6:00:10AN ADDENDUM TO.

6:00:11>> HIS.

6:00:11CONTRACT TODAY THAT WAS SIGNED

6:00:12ON DECEMBER 18TH WHICH.

6:00:14ADDED ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE AND

6:00:17MEETINGS TO VIRTUAL MEETINGS

6:00:18AND A BULK.

6:00:19SITE OPERATOR VERBIAGE TO THAT.

6:00:21AND THEN WE PUT OUT OUR FIRST

6:00:22RFP.

6:00:23ON JANUARY 6TH.

6:00:24ON JANUARY.

6:00:26>> 9TH MAYOR JOHN.

6:00:26GUNTER ASKED FOR THE RFP.

6:00:28AND THEN JANUARY 16TH WE

6:00:30CANCELED THAT RFP.

6:00:32FEBRUARY 20TH WE ISSUED A NEW

6:00:34RFP NOW WITH A DESIGN BUILD.

6:00:35OPERATE TRANSFER STATION.

6:00:37AS A REQUIREMENT.

6:00:38SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE

6:00:41ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE A

6:00:42CONSULTANT INVOLVED AND WE

6:00:44AMENDED HIS CONTRACT TO GIVE

6:00:45HIM MORE MONEY.

6:00:46UM NOTHING AGAINST HIM BUT WE

6:00:48MISSED A HUGE CHUNK OF THIS

6:00:50CONTRACT AND IT WENT BACK OUT

6:00:51AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAD

6:00:53ADDENDUM ONE A CITY PROVIDED.

6:00:55OPERATED SITE TO A.

6:00:56UH A CONTRACTORS.

6:00:58PROVIDED CONTRACTED SITE AND

6:01:02THEN WHAT FOUR MORE ADDENDUMS

6:01:03AFTER THAT LANDING US TO APRIL

6:01:0630TH WITH THAT FINDING FINALLY

6:01:08CLOSING AND HERE.

6:01:09>> WE ARE.

6:01:09SO IT'S.

6:01:10BEEN A YEAR'S WORTH OF.

6:01:11THIS A YEAR AND A HALF WORTH OF

6:01:12.

6:01:13THIS AND HERE WE ARE.

6:01:14SO IF IT NEEDS.

6:01:14>> TO TAKE TIME.

6:01:15>> SO THAT WE CAN GET IT RIGHT

6:01:16WITH A.

6:01:17300 MILLION PLUS DOLLAR.

6:01:18CONTRACT.

6:01:18>> SO BE IT.

6:01:19THAT'S WHERE I STAND.

6:01:20ON THIS.

6:01:20THANK YOU.

6:01:22COUNCIL MEMBER LEHMAN.

6:01:23YEAH, ACTUALLY I WANTED TO MAKE

6:01:26A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION

6:01:29284.

6:01:29DASH 26.

6:01:33ALL RIGHT.

6:01:33IS THERE A SECOND?

6:01:34SECOND.

6:01:36ALL RIGHT.

6:01:37>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

6:01:38UH.

6:01:39YEAH OKAY.

6:01:40WE'LL CONTINUE DOWN THE LINE

6:01:42HERE.

6:01:42COUNCIL MEMBER STANKY.

6:01:45THANK WHERE?

6:01:46I JUST.

6:01:47WANTED, UH, SOME CLARIFICATION

6:01:48OF THE.

6:01:52IF WE.

6:01:53INTENDED IT FOR THE

6:01:55ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING.

6:01:57THEY DON'T.

6:01:58PROVIDE A THAT THEY DON'T

6:02:00PROVIDE.

6:02:00AN ORDER.

6:02:03THEY JUST PROVIDE.

6:02:04ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION.

6:02:06TO RECOMMEND AT ALL.

6:02:08SO WHAT WE DID IS WE HIRED.

6:02:12SOMEONE SIGNIFICANT MONEY TO.

6:02:17EVALUATE THIS FOR THESE THREE.

6:02:19WELL ANYONE ANY RESPONDED AND

6:02:22UM THEY THEY BRING BACK WHAT

6:02:26WAS.

6:02:29SEEMED TO ME TO BE A VERY

6:02:31OBJECTIVE WAY TO EVALUATE UH

6:02:33THE THREE UH BIDDERS AND.

6:02:38UM IT DIDN'T IT DIDN'T LOOK

6:02:40LIKE DID IT LOOKED LIKE A TOSS

6:02:42UP IT LOOKED LIKE FOR SOME

6:02:43DEFINITIVE RESULTS AS A RULE AS

6:02:46IT RELATES TO THE EVALUATION,

6:02:48IT WAS DONE WHICH WAS THE WHOLE

6:02:50REASON WHY WE WANTED A THIRD.

6:02:51PARTY SO THAT.

6:02:52WE WEREN'T THE ONES IN THE

6:02:54POSITION OF TRYING TO.

6:02:56BE BRAINIACS IN THE WASTE

6:02:59MANAGEMENT BUSINESS, BUT TO

6:03:00HAVE SOMEONE THAT WAS A

6:03:01BRAINIAC AND WASTE MANAGEMENT

6:03:03TO DO THAT EVALUATION FOR US IS

6:03:06MAKES.

6:03:06>> SOME.

6:03:07FOR US.

6:03:07THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD.

6:03:09UH THESE ARE THE DETERMINING

6:03:12FACTORS OF WHY THIS ONE WOULD

6:03:14SHINE.

6:03:14BUT BUT YOU GOT YOUR MIC ON.

6:03:16THANK YOU.

6:03:17>> UM, AND SO NOW THAT SEEMS

6:03:22THE POSITION WE'RE IN IS OKAY.

6:03:24WELL, LET'S LET'S NOT BELIEVE

6:03:26THEM.

6:03:28UM.

6:03:28>> AND LET'S LET ANOTHER PERSON

6:03:31GIVE US THEIR IDEA ON WHETHER

6:03:34THE TWO THAT DIDN'T WIN WERE

6:03:38PROPERLY TREATED.

6:03:40AND SO AT WHAT POINT IN TIME TO

6:03:43DO WE.

6:03:46>> UM.

6:03:47TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF

6:03:49MAKING A DECISION.

6:03:50THAT THAT SAYS IT WOULD APPEAR

6:03:53THAT ALL THE T'S WERE CROSS AND

6:03:55THE EYES WERE DOTTED AND.

6:03:58THIS WAS THE DECISION THAT WAS

6:03:59BROUGHT TO US BY THE PEOPLE WE

6:04:01PAID TO BRING US THE DECISION.

6:04:04SO UM.

6:04:06I FIND IT I FIND IT HARD TO

6:04:09CONTINUE TO GO TO.

6:04:10AND GO.

6:04:10TO ANOTHER SOURCE, UH, TO TRY

6:04:14TO POTENTIALLY REFUTE WITH THE

6:04:16FIRST SOURCE THAT WE PAID FOR.

6:04:17TOLD US.

6:04:19WHAT WE PAID THEM TO TELL US.

6:04:22BUT I AM INTERESTED WHAT

6:04:24EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO SAY.

6:04:24SO I HAVEN'T MADE A FINAL

6:04:28DECISION.

6:04:29COUNCIL MEMBER LASTER.

6:04:32THANK YOU.

6:04:33>> MAYOR.

6:04:33YES.

6:04:34UH COUNCILORS THANK YOU I AGREE

6:04:36I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT.

6:04:37UM, FIRST I WANT TO PREFACE

6:04:39THIS BY STATING THAT MITCH

6:04:40KESSLER IS THE BEST IN THE

6:04:42BUSINESS.

6:04:42WE WORKED TOGETHER IN MY

6:04:44PREVIOUS LIFE WHEN I WAS WITH

6:04:45GOODWILL INDUSTRIES AND DID A

6:04:46LOT OF TRASH AND RECYCLING UH,

6:04:49BUSINESS THROUGH GOODWILL

6:04:50SOUTHWEST FLORIDA AND UM, HE'S

6:04:52THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS I

6:04:54GUESS WHERE I'M STRUGGLING IS

6:04:55IT'S JUST SO MESSY.

6:04:57I MEAN, WE JUST HEARD FROM OUR

6:04:59OUR CITY MANAGER WHO HAD TO

6:05:01LEAVE THE ROOM.

6:05:02WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SUSPECT OR

6:05:06ACCUSATIONS OF BID RIGGING AND

6:05:06THEN THERE'S THERE'S TWO

6:05:08LETTERS OF PROTEST AND YOU

6:05:10KNOW, IT'S JUST MESSY.

6:05:12UM, AND I, I IT'S JUST

6:05:15UNCOMFORTABLE AND THAT'S WHAT'S

6:05:15KIND OF MADE ME REALLY

6:05:17UNCOMFORTABLE AND AND YOU KNOW

6:05:19,THERE'S NO DOUBT WE HIRED THE

6:05:20BEST CONSULTANT THERE IS TO

6:05:22GUIDE US IN THIS PROCESS BUT

6:05:24IT'S STILL MESSY.

6:05:25SO I'M LEANING.

6:05:28TOWARD UH, WHAT COUNCILMEMBER

6:05:29LONG STATED IN TERMS OF DOA.

6:05:31TAKE US OUT OF IT, BRING IT TO

6:05:34UM.

6:05:35HIGHER POWER IF YOU WILL TO

6:05:37MAKE THAT DETERMINATION EVEN

6:05:39THOUGH YOU KNOW WE SPOKE ABOUT

6:05:41THIS YESTERDAY, MR. MASON,

6:05:42ABOUT THE COST YOU KNOW, THE

6:05:43ADDITIONAL COST IN DELAYING IT.

6:05:45YOU KNOW, I'M JUST I'M JUST

6:05:47REALLY STRUGGLING BECAUSE IT'S

6:05:48JUST SO MESSY.

6:05:50UM, BUT I'LL I'LL WAIT AND LET

6:05:53THE OTHERS WEIGH IN.

6:05:54THANK YOU.

6:05:54MAYOR.

6:05:55COUNCIL MEMBER DONNA.

6:05:57YEAH, I HEAR YOU.

6:05:58COUNCIL I HEAR YOU.

6:05:59AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A

6:06:02LONG TIME I'M FRUSTRATED THAT

6:06:03I'M OUT OF.

6:06:04CHARACTER BECAUSE THIS IS ONE

6:06:06OF THOSE SELF-INFLICTED.

6:06:07WOUNDS THE WAY I SEE IT.

6:06:09BECAUSE WHAT COUNCIL WHAT

6:06:10COUNCIL MEMBER COULD DUKE

6:06:12BROUGHT UP IS WHAT CAUGHT MY

6:06:13ATTENTION.

6:06:14AND YOU WERE RIGHT,

6:06:15COUNCILMEMBER LOWE I'M NOT I'M

6:06:16NOT QUALIFIED TO.

6:06:17DO WHAT.

6:06:18>> WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO

6:06:19TONIGHT BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO

6:06:21HAPPEN IF WE GO TO DOING THIS

6:06:22CORRECT IT'S GOING TO GO WE'RE

6:06:24UNDER A TIME SQUEEZE AND WE

6:06:26NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE FOR

6:06:27THE EXACT SAME THING THAT YOU

6:06:28PUT UP ON THAT THAT WHATEVER

6:06:31YOU CALL THAT THINK FOR FOR THE

6:06:32LIFE OF ME I REMEMBER WE WOULD

6:06:35GET THINGS BACK.

6:06:36>> AND.

6:06:37WE WOULD HAVE THIS CONVERSATION

6:06:38AND BECAUSE WE COULD RERANK AT

6:06:39THAT.

6:06:40TIME AND.

6:06:40>> TALK IT THROUGH BUT NOW IT

6:06:42FEELS LIKE IT WAS THE PROCESS.

6:06:44THOSE ARE SOME FANCY WORDS BUT

6:06:46WE NEVER AS FAR AS I'M

6:06:47CONCERNED, WE NEVER SHOULD HAVE

6:06:48BEEN IN THE POSITION THAT WE'RE

6:06:50IN RIGHT NOW.

6:06:51THAT WAS CLEAR AND NO OFFENSE

6:06:53TO KESSLER AND UH, THE OTHER

6:06:54GROUP I SERVE YOU ALL MONTHS

6:06:55AGO AND THIS FIRST HAPPENED I

6:06:57SAID, HEY, LACE PRO HAS BEEN

6:06:58WITH US FOREVER.

6:06:59MY I NEVER GET ANYTHING ON MY

6:07:02COMPUTER ABOUT WASTE PRO NEVER.

6:07:04AND I KNOW THAT THE SERVICES

6:07:06THAT THEY BROUGHT US I HAVE TO

6:07:07SAY THE OTHER TWO KIT I

6:07:08REMEMBER SAYING THAT UP HERE

6:07:10MAYBE I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY

6:07:11IT BUT YOU KNOW I JUST KIND OF

6:07:12PUT IT OUT THERE AND I THOUGHT

6:07:13WE SUPPOSED TO GO OUT AND JUST

6:07:15KIND OF FEEL THE YOU KNOW, FEEL

6:07:17WHAT WAS OUT THERE.

6:07:17AND WE DID OUTSOURCE IT

6:07:20SOMETHING I'M JUST NOT

6:07:22COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

6:07:23BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE ARE.

6:07:24OUT OF TIME.

6:07:26THERE'S NO WAY TO SUGARCOAT

6:07:27THAT BECAUSE BASED ON THE THE

6:07:31UM ALL THE INFORMATION AND I'VE

6:07:32BEEN AFTER THIS AND TALKING

6:07:33WITH PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND THE

6:07:36PROCESS BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO

6:07:38HAVE ANYTHING IN BY DECEMBER.

6:07:39FIRST DOOR IS NOT BINDING.

6:07:41THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND

6:07:42TELL US WELL, WE FOLLOWED THE

6:07:44PROCESS AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK

6:07:45HERE AGAIN GOING OKAY, WELL

6:07:47THEY FOLLOWED THE PROCESS AND

6:07:48THERE'S A RANKING AND WE'LL

6:07:50STILL HERE.

6:07:50WE JUST LOST SIX MONTHS THAT WE

6:07:52DON'T HAVE.

6:07:53SO I'M EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED I'M

6:07:56ANNOYED.

6:07:56BUT THE BUSINESS OF TONIGHT HAS

6:07:59THE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

6:08:01WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AHEAD

6:08:02AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE

6:08:04PROCESS OR OR WITH EVERYTHING

6:08:05WE HAVE COMING UP.

6:08:06IT'S WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY

6:08:09OF PUTTING ANOTHER THING ON OUR

6:08:11PLATE.

6:08:12WE HAVING A TRANSITION WHERE AT

6:08:13THE END WE'RE WE'RE JUST GOING

6:08:15TO HAVE TO MAKE A HARD

6:08:16DECISION.

6:08:17UM I HEAR YOU COUNCILMAN THE

6:08:19LAST TWO BUT IT'S FOR WHAT I'M

6:08:21SAYING TO YOU IS WE'RE OUT OF

6:08:23TIME.

6:08:23WE ARE WE'RE HERE WHERE WE ARE

6:08:24.

6:08:24YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS WAS THE

6:08:26PROCESS, BUT I THINK WE MISSED

6:08:28A HUGE OPPORTUNITY.

6:08:29I'M SURE THIS WON'T HAPPEN

6:08:30AGAIN WHERE SOMETHING OF THIS

6:08:33MAGNITUDE SHOULD HAVE COME TO

6:08:34US TO LET US TALK TO IT BEFORE

6:08:35WE GET HERE.

6:08:36AND THIS JUST BURNS ME SO I

6:08:38WON'T TAKE UP ANY TIME.

6:08:39I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE AND

6:08:41RELUCTANTLY UH BUT FOR THE SAKE

6:08:43OF THE CITY AND FOR THE SAKE OF

6:08:44THE COUNCIL THERE'S GOING TO BE

6:08:46STEEL HERE.

6:08:46I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION

6:08:47AS PRESENTED.

6:08:48THAT'S ALL.

6:08:49COUNCIL MEMBER LONG.

6:08:51YEAH.

6:08:51>> JUST TO REITERATE, I THINK

6:08:52COUNCILMEMBER STUCKEY POINTS

6:08:54EVERY ONE OF THEM ARE TRUE AND

6:08:55THEY'RE ACCURATE.

6:08:55BUT I THINK GIVEN THE LIGHT OF

6:08:57THE SITUATION GIVEN YOU KNOW,

6:08:58THE REASONS THAT WE'VE ALREADY

6:08:59CITED WHY THIS IS AS MESSY AS

6:09:01IT IS AND THE FACT THAT IT'S A

6:09:03$400 MILLION DECISION, I THINK

6:09:05THE.

6:09:05DILEMMA FOR ME.

6:09:06>> IS INSURANCE.

6:09:06SO IT GOES.

6:09:07TO THE.

6:09:08>> TO THE HEARING OFFICER AND

6:09:09SHE CONFIRMS THAT THEY'RE THE

6:09:11BEST IN THE BUSINESS AND THEY

6:09:12DID EVERYTHING RIGHT.

6:09:13WE'VE GOT NOTHING TO LOSE AND

6:09:14NOW THERE'S.

6:09:15ZERO IMPROPRIETY ON OUR PART.

6:09:16WE KICKED IT TO THE DOA WHICH

6:09:18ISN'T KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE

6:09:19ROAD GIVEN EVERYTHING.

6:09:21THAT'S THE MAGNITUDE OF

6:09:22EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.

6:09:23UM, WE'RE ALLOWING THEM TO

6:09:25CONFIRM.

6:09:25THE DECISION.

6:09:26UM, WHICH IS.

6:09:27>> A FORM OF INSURANCE FOR ME

6:09:28BECAUSE FRANKLY, I'M NOT

6:09:29COMFORTABLE.

6:09:30UM.

6:09:31>> PICKING ANY DECISION GIVEN

6:09:33HAVING READ THROUGH BOTH

6:09:34PROTESTS.

6:09:34UM, I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S ANY

6:09:36MERIT TO THEM, BUT I'M NOT

6:09:37SAYING THAT WE'RE WE SHOULD.

6:09:37BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THAT

6:09:39DETERMINATION EITHER ESPECIALLY

6:09:41FOR A $400 MILLION.

6:09:42THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY POINT I

6:09:43WAS.

6:09:43>> TRYING TO MAKE.

6:09:44THANK YOU.

6:09:45FOLLOW UP QUESTION, MAYOR.

6:09:46YES, SIR.

6:09:46BECAUSE I'M WITH YOU.

6:09:48BUT THE QUESTION IS THEY'RE NOT

6:09:49GOING TO HAVE TRANSITION TIME.

6:09:51LET'S JUST SAY BEST CASE IS

6:09:53FOUR MONTHS IS OCTOBER.

6:09:55THAT PUTS US IN FEBRUARY.

6:09:56IF HE COMES BACK THEY'RE NOT

6:09:59GOING TO HAVE TIME TO

6:10:00TRANSITION.

6:10:00I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY OF WAYS

6:10:02PRO IS GOING TO EXTEND THE

6:10:04CONTRACT PAST SEPTEMBER AND NOW

6:10:06WE ARE WE AS FAR AS HEALTH

6:10:08SAFETY AND WELFARE THAT'S MY

6:10:10ULTIMATE FRUSTRATION AND

6:10:12ULTIMATE FRUSTRATION WHICH IS I

6:10:13DON'T SEE ANY OTHER WAY BECAUSE

6:10:15THERE'S NO WAY TO SAY THAT

6:10:17THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

6:10:18THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND I'M

6:10:21AND IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS.

6:10:22SO MAYBE COUNCILMEMBER LONG CAN

6:10:24YOU HELP ME WITH YOUR THINKING

6:10:26BECAUSE I SEE THAT THERE'S NOT

6:10:29ENOUGH TRANSITION TIME WASTE

6:10:31PRO'S GONE.

6:10:31WE HAVEN'T THEY HAVEN'T FIGURED

6:10:33OUT EVERYTHING.

6:10:36I FORGOT I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT

6:10:37TAKING THAT LONG TO BE HONEST

6:10:39WITH YOU.

6:10:39I THINK WE'VE GOT MOTIVATED

6:10:41PARTIES ALL THE WAY AROUND.

6:10:42I MEAN I'M UH AS FAR AS THE

6:10:44ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING AND THE

6:10:44PROCESS ITSELF.

6:10:45UH.

6:10:46>> FULL DISCLOSURE, I, UH,

6:10:47PRACTICE BEFORE DOA.

6:10:48PRETTY REGULARLY AND OBVIOUSLY

6:10:50NOT ANYTHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE

6:10:51BUT I THINK GIVEN THE

6:10:53CIRCUMSTANCES, THE SITUATION

6:10:54AND THE EAGERNESS OF OF ALL THE

6:10:55PARTIES INVOLVED.

6:10:56UM.

6:10:57>> I DON'T ANTICIPATE I THINK

6:10:58THAT'S A HIGH END SCENARIO

6:11:00CERTAINLY ALSO TO COUNTER YOUR

6:11:01POINT IF THAT IS THE TIMELINE

6:11:03IS ACCURATE OR EVEN IF IT GOES

6:11:05BEYOND.

6:11:05THAT UM.

6:11:07I ALSO DON'T SEE A SCENARIO

6:11:08FRANKLY WHERE WHERE WASTE PRO

6:11:10WOULDN'T WOULDN'T MOVE FORWARD

6:11:11WITH THAT FROM A FINANCIAL

6:11:12PERSPECTIVE SOLELY OUT OF SPITE

6:11:14TO NOT CONTINUE.

6:11:15>> THAT ON A MONTH TO MONTH

6:11:16BECAUSE.

6:11:17>> THEY LOST THE CONTRACT

6:11:18FRANKLY.

6:11:19I MEAN I.

6:11:20>> WON'T EVEN.

6:11:21>> GO INTO THAT BUT WE'RE IN A

6:11:22SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN TO YOUR

6:11:23POINT.

6:11:23UM UH.

6:11:25I FRANKLY DON'T WANT TO BE.

6:11:26IN A POSITION THAT WE.

6:11:28DESIGNED PURPOSELY THIS PROCESS

6:11:32TO NOT BE IN.

6:11:33UM SO.

6:11:35THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE I'M

6:11:35COMING FROM.

6:11:36THANK YOU.

6:11:37COUNCIL MEMBERS.

6:11:37THANK YOU.

6:11:39IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO KNOW

6:11:41HOW LONG THE PROCESS WOULD

6:11:43THOUGH WOULD BE.

6:11:46YOU KNOW, BASED ON LIKE HOW

6:11:47MANY HOW MANY CASES THEY'RE

6:11:50LOOKING AT.

6:11:51WHEN IT WOULD ARISE?

6:11:54I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE MOTIVATED

6:11:57PARTIES.

6:11:58UM MAYBE MAYBE NOT.

6:12:00WITH THE SAME MOTIVATIONS.

6:12:02BUT IT'LL DEPEND ON HOW QUICKLY

6:12:06THEY CAN HANDLE THE MATTER.

6:12:08I WOULD THINK SO WHEN WE'RE

6:12:11TALKING ABOUT TRANSITION TIME

6:12:13AND WHEN WE WOULD HAVE AN

6:12:14ANSWER WHEN WHEN THE RESULTS

6:12:16FROM THE DOE WOULD COME BACK TO

6:12:17US AND WE ULTIMATELY HAVE TO

6:12:18MAKE THE DECISION AGAIN.

6:12:22SO I.

6:12:23>> CAN ONLY GIVE YOU A RANGE I

6:12:25ANYTHING ELSE WOULD BE

6:12:28CONJECTURE RIGHT.

6:12:28AND SO I BELIEVE THAT MR.

6:12:29MASON'S ANYWHERE FROM 4 TO 6

6:12:31MONTHS.

6:12:31HOW MUCH.

6:12:324 TO 6 MONTHS.

6:12:344 TO 6 MONTHS.

6:12:35COULD BE LESS COULD BE MORE.

6:12:37>> BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU.

6:12:39>> BECAUSE.

6:12:39IT WOULD BE.

6:12:40IT WOULD I GET IT?

6:12:42THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'D

6:12:44BE ENOUGH TRANSITION TIME LEFT

6:12:45ME.

6:12:45>> ME?

6:12:46NO.

6:12:46>> WHAT?

6:12:48SIR.

6:12:48>> YOU'RE NOT PERMITTED TO

6:12:49SPEAK.

6:12:51UM.

6:12:52>> YOU ALL AREN'T.

6:12:53PERMITTED TO.

6:12:54>> SPEAK RIGHT NOW.

6:12:55WE WOULD REQUEST THE.

6:12:56OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK

6:12:57ESPECIALLY.

6:12:57OKAY?

6:12:58>> OKAY.

6:12:58THE HEARING.

6:13:00THAT'S IT.

6:13:00>> MAYOR.

6:13:01THANK YOU.

6:13:02I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT

6:13:03COMES BACK FROM DOE ON WHETHER

6:13:05IT'S NOT SUSTAINED OR NOT.

6:13:07IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU KNOW.

6:13:08I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD DO

6:13:10THAT.

6:13:10RIGHT THAT YOU KNOW ARE WE

6:13:13GOING BACK OUT FOR A BID OKAY

6:13:14THAT'S ANOTHER 2 TO 3 MONTH

6:13:16FOUR MONTH PROCESS WHICH MEANS

6:13:18YOU'RE NOW MUCH FURTHER DOWN

6:13:19THE ROAD.

6:13:21OR DO YOU PLAN ON AWARDING A

6:13:23CONTRACT TO SOMEBODY THAT'S.

6:13:25I MEAN.

6:13:26>> WHO WE RECOMMENDED OR YOU

6:13:27KNOW, AWARDING THE CONTRACT TO

6:13:29SOMEBODY ELSE?

6:13:30YOU KNOW.

6:13:30>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO

6:13:32HAPPEN WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

6:13:37ALL RIGHT.

6:13:38SEE ANOTHER UH NO OTHER LIGHTS

6:13:40ON.

6:13:40WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND ON

6:13:42THE FLOOR.

6:13:42MADAM CITY CLERK.

6:13:43PLEASE CALL.

6:13:44>> THE ROLL.

6:13:45CLEAR.

6:13:45>> MAY I ASK?

6:13:46I KNOW IT'S LATE.

6:13:48I DON'T KNOW THAT.

6:13:49THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE

6:13:51SINCE 4:00 AND I GUESS IS A

6:13:52HEARING ON IT.

6:13:53DO WE HAVE SOMETHING?

6:13:54ARE YOU ALL OPEN?

6:13:55I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BECAUSE

6:13:57THEY WERE HERE.

6:13:58I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE WITH

6:13:59BUT THEY'VE BEEN HERE THIS

6:14:00LATE.

6:14:01I DON'T I'M OKAY WITH THEM.

6:14:03I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE BREAKING

6:14:04RULES.

6:14:04I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE

6:14:05BECAUSE.

6:14:06THIS IS THIS IS A QUASI

6:14:08JUDICIAL HEARING.

6:14:08THIS IS AN EXECUTIVE FUNCTION.

6:14:11UM, THEY SHOULD NOT BE

6:14:13PERMITTED TO SPEAK.

6:14:13GOT IT.

6:14:14SORRY SO I WOULD.

6:14:16NO NO NO NO NO AND I JUST WOULD

6:14:17NOT RECOMMEND IT OKAY.

6:14:20ALL RIGHT I WITHDRAW THAT SORRY

6:14:21FOLKS.

6:14:22UM, CITY.

6:14:23CLERK GO AHEAD AND CALL.

6:14:24>> THE ROLL.

6:14:25WHAT'S THE MOTION?

6:14:26WELL, YOUR HONOR, CAN I CONFIRM

6:14:28WHO PROVIDED THE SECOND?

6:14:29THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE

6:14:31RESOLUTION 284 DASH 26 MADE BY

6:14:34COUNCILMEMBER LEHMAN AND

6:14:37SECONDED BY HEARING YES.

6:14:39THANK YOU.

6:14:40ALL RIGHT.

6:14:41UH, CADILLAC.

6:14:45I'M READING.

6:14:46SO AFFIRMATIVELY DENYING THE

6:14:48FORMAL PROTEST BY COASTAL WASTE

6:14:51.

6:14:52THAT'S CORRECT.

6:14:53SO I VOTE.

6:14:54TONIGHT IT'S A.

6:14:56IT'LL BE.

6:14:57>> A DENIAL OF THE BIG PROTEST

6:14:58.

6:14:58CORRECT.

6:14:58THAT'S SO.

6:14:59>> I'M.

6:14:59CAUTIOUS AND I VOTE.

6:15:01>> DENIES THE PROTEST.

6:15:02FROM COASTAL.

6:15:03YEAH THE.

6:15:05>> CORRECT FIRST ONE IS COAST.

6:15:06>> TO COAST.

6:15:10I VOTE DENIES THE PROTEST.

6:15:11WHAT AND I.

6:15:12VOTE DENIES THE PROTEST THAT IS

6:15:15SUBMITTED BY COASTAL WASTE AND

6:15:16RECYCLING INC..

6:15:17ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT.

6:15:18WHICH IS AN WHICH IS.

6:15:21>> NOT.

6:15:22NOT SENDING.

6:15:23NO KILL RAIN.

6:15:26YES.

6:15:27>> LAST STRAW NO LEMON.

6:15:31YES.

6:15:32>> LONG NO.

6:15:35.

6:15:36>> STINKY.

6:15:37YES.

6:15:37>> NOW.

6:15:40>> NO.

6:15:43>> GUNTER.

6:15:45>> THAT'S THAT'S FINE.

6:15:49UH.

6:15:50FOR RISE FOR NAYS.

6:15:53MOTION FAILED.

6:15:58OKAY.

6:15:58>> LET'S MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION

6:16:03285 DASH 26.

6:16:06UH.

6:16:09I'LL OPEN.

6:16:09>> IT UP THE FLOOR.

6:16:10I MEAN, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME

6:16:12PROTEST WITH THE SAME UH.

6:16:15UM.

6:16:16>> BUT WITH A DIFFERENT UH,

6:16:18CORPORATION.

6:16:19THIS IS WASTE PRO SO I'LL OPEN

6:16:21THE FLOOR FOR ANY DISCUSSION OR

6:16:24FOR A MOTION.

6:16:36SO IF I MAKE THE MOTION TO.

6:16:42DENY MOTION TO THAT.

6:16:44>> WAS.

6:16:44MUDDIED UP.

6:16:45WHAT SO IT.

6:16:46AGAIN I FOR THE SAKE OF

6:16:47UNIFORMITY I WOULD I WOULD JUST

6:16:49MAKE THE SAME MOTION EVEN.

6:16:50>> THOUGH.

6:16:50UM.

6:16:50YEAH OKAY.

6:16:51>> I'LL MAKE THE SAME MOTION

6:16:52THAT UH WAS MADE PREVIOUSLY.

6:16:54TO TO DENY.

6:16:56TO APPROVE PROOF.

6:16:57SORRY I'M IT'S LIKE UM OKAY

6:17:00THEN I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION OKAY

6:17:02.

6:17:02IS IT MOTION TO APPROVE

6:17:04RESOLUTION NUMBER.

6:17:05285 DASH 26.

6:17:07IS THAT.

6:17:08>> YOUR MOTION, COUNCILMEMBER.

6:17:09LAST SHOW YES.

6:17:14ALL RIGHT.

6:17:14>> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

6:17:17SEEING NONE.

6:17:18MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL

6:17:19THE ROLL.

6:17:20CONDUCT NO.

6:17:23KILL RAIN.

6:17:23I LESTER.

6:17:26NO LEMON.

6:17:29I LONG NO STINKY.

6:17:33NO FOR NOW GUNTER.

6:17:38I THREE EYES FIVE NAYS MOTION

6:17:43FAILED.

6:17:46NOT SAY.

6:17:47THAT UM CITY CLERK I BELIEVE

6:17:48THAT WAS 4 OR.

6:17:50>> 4.

6:17:50I THINK IT WAS 4 TO 4.

6:17:51SO I HAVE DANIELLE WITH A NAME

6:17:53.

6:17:54GUNTER WITH.

6:17:58THREE EYES.

6:17:59WILL GUNTER KILL RAIN AND LEMON

6:18:04FIVE NAYS.

6:18:05DANIELLE COULD DUKE.

6:18:06LAST STRAW.

6:18:07LONG AND STINKY?

6:18:08MY MISTAKE.

6:18:10ALL RIGHT.

6:18:13ALL RIGHT.

6:18:13SO LET'S MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION

6:18:17246 DASH 26 AND I'LL OPEN THE

6:18:21FLOOR UP FOR ANY DISCUSSION OR

6:18:23A MOTION.

6:18:26MOTION TO APPROVE.

6:18:29MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION.

6:18:31246 DASH.

6:18:3226 YEAH HE JUST I MEAN HE JUST

6:18:33CITED THE RESOLUTION BUT YES.

6:18:35MOTION TO.

6:18:35>> APPROVE SECOND.

6:18:36ALL RIGHT.

6:18:37SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN.

6:18:38>> THAT WE'RE.

6:18:39>> REFERRING TO THE UH.

6:18:41AS IT PERTAINS TO.

6:18:45JUST BOTH OF THEM OR IS IT ONE

6:18:46OF THEM MR. CITY ATTORNEY.

6:18:47IT IS JUST ONE.

6:18:48EACH ONE HAS TO BE ACTED

6:18:49INDEPENDENTLY.

6:18:50AND THIS ONE IS FOR.

6:18:52COASTAL WASTE AND RECYCLING.

6:18:53THIS ONE'S FOR COASTAL.

6:18:54SO WHEN YOU VOTE I YOU'RE

6:18:55VOTING FOR DOA.

6:18:56THANK YOU.

6:18:59ANY OTHER DISCUSSION SEEING

6:19:02NONE.

6:19:03MADAM CITY.

6:19:03CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

6:19:05COULD DUKE.

6:19:07I KILL RAIN?

6:19:09NO LASTER.

6:19:12>> ALL RIGHT.

6:19:13LEHMAN UH.

6:19:15LONG.

6:19:15>> UH, STINKY.

6:19:18UH, DANIELLE.

6:19:20ALL RIGHT.

6:19:21>> GUNTER.

6:19:22>> UH.

6:19:23>> SIX EYES, TWO NAYS, MOTION

6:19:26CARRIED.

6:19:26OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO

6:19:29RESOLUTION 254 DASH 26.

6:19:34AND, UH, THIS ONE WAS WITH

6:19:37WASTE PRO.

6:19:37I OPEN THE FLOOR, UH, FOR A

6:19:41MOTION OR ANY DISCUSSION.

6:19:43MOTION TO.

6:19:44>> APPROVE RESOLUTION 254.

6:19:46DASH 26.

6:19:48SECOND.

6:19:50ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NONE.

6:19:52MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE.

6:19:54>> CALL THE ROLL.

6:19:55COULD DUKE.

6:19:56I KILL RAIN?

6:19:58ALL RIGHT.

6:19:59>> LAST STRAW.

6:20:00HI, LEMON.

6:20:04LONG.

6:20:04UH, STINKY.

6:20:06UH, DARNELL GUNTER.

6:20:09UH, SEVEN EYES, ONE NAY MOTION

6:20:12CARRIED.

6:20:14OKAY.

6:20:15>> THANK YOU FOR SPENDING THE

6:20:17EVENING WITH US.

6:20:21UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM E NON

6:20:24BARGAINING EMPLOYEE SALARY

6:20:26INCREASE.

6:20:26UH, MR. CITY ATTORNEY.

6:20:28THE REASON.

6:20:28WHY I.

6:20:29HIT MY LIGHT AND SO THAT.

6:20:31YOU ARE AWARE, UH, WITHIN OUR.

6:20:32ORDINANCE IS WE HAVE CERTAIN

6:20:35PROVISIONS.

6:20:36THAT AUTHORIZE THE CHARTER

6:20:39OFFICERS TO.

6:20:40CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY

6:20:41.

6:20:41>> AND THE CITY.

6:20:42AUDITOR TO UH.

6:20:44>> AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE

6:20:44WHERE.

6:20:45THIS IS GOING TO GO.

6:20:46IN PAYING ITS EMPLOYEES.

6:20:48SO DEPENDING.

6:20:48>> ON WHERE YOU ALL GO, UH,

6:20:50THERE.

6:20:51IS PROVISIONS WITHIN.

6:20:52OUR ORDINANCE, UH.

6:20:55GRANTS THESE INDIVIDUAL.

6:20:57CHARTER OFFICERS.

6:20:58THE ABILITY TO SET THE PAY.

6:21:00SO I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF

6:21:02THAT THAT DEPENDING.

6:21:03>> ON WHERE YOU ALL GO.

6:21:04IT MAY REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE

6:21:06AMENDMENT TO THAT EFFECT.

6:21:06I JUST.

6:21:07WANT US.

6:21:08>> TO THE GROUND WORK ON THAT.

6:21:09THANK YOU MAYOR.

6:21:11ALL RIGHT.

6:21:11I WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS

6:21:13FOR UH, FOR FOR TWO REASONS

6:21:15REALLY.

6:21:15UM, YOU KNOW, BEING HERE FOR

6:21:17THE LAST, UH, NINE YEARS.

6:21:20UH, HONESTLY, I DIDN'T EVEN

6:21:23REALIZE THIS UNTIL WE HAD OUR

6:21:24DISCUSSION BACK DURING THE

6:21:26BUDGET.

6:21:26CYCLE WHEN STAFF HAD PUT IN.

6:21:29THE BUDGET.

6:21:31FOR AN INCREASE OF BARGAINING

6:21:33AND NON BARGAINING AT 7.25% AND

6:21:39AS WE HAD OUR DISCUSSIONS AND

6:21:41THE BUDGET DISCUSSION, UM, WE

6:21:46REALIZED THAT THERE.

6:21:47WAS A COST SAVINGS.

6:21:49UM IF THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE

6:21:52THE CASE SAY WITH THE MARKET.

6:21:54TONIGHT WE APPROVED UH

6:21:58RESOLUTION 261 DASH 26 FOR THE

6:22:02UH BARGAINING UNIT FOR THEIR

6:22:03INCREASE.

6:22:04NOW IF YOU READ THROUGH THAT

6:22:08RESOLUTION THERE'S BASICALLY

6:22:10FOUR CLASSIFICATIONS OF

6:22:13EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE BARGAINING

6:22:14UNIT.

6:22:17AND THEN WE HAD A DISCUSSION

6:22:19WITH NON BARGAINING BECAUSE NON

6:22:22BARGAINING WAS ALSO UM BUDGETED

6:22:27FOR A 7.25% INCREASE.

6:22:31ONE OF THE THINGS THAT UH I

6:22:34KNOW THAT THE BARGAINING UNIT

6:22:35WAS CONCERNED ABOUT UH YOU KNOW

6:22:38THEY AGREED TO THEIR THEIR

6:22:40CONTRACT, THEY VOTED ON IT,

6:22:41THEY PROVED IT AND WE APPROVED

6:22:43IT TONIGHT.

6:22:44ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WERE

6:22:45CONCERNED ABOUT WAS THE NON

6:22:49BARGAINING IF THEY WERE GOING

6:22:50TO GET SOMETHING DIFFERENT

6:22:51BECAUSE THEIR ASSUMPTION WAS IT

6:22:54WAS GOING TO BE EQUAL.

6:22:57SO AS THE CITY ATTORNEY ALLUDED

6:23:00TO PRIOR TO THIS CONVERSATION,

6:23:02THE.

6:23:03>> CITY MANAGER, THE CITY

6:23:05AUDITOR.

6:23:05>> AND.

6:23:06THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE

6:23:09FLEXIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO.

6:23:12NON BARGAINING TO DO WHATEVER

6:23:16THEY WANT AS LONG AS THEY STAY

6:23:18WITHIN THE GUARDRAILS OF WHAT

6:23:20WAS BUDGETED.

6:23:21SO TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE

6:23:24HYPOTHETICALLY.

6:23:24IF WE DID NOT REDUCE THE

6:23:29BUDGETARY DOLLAR AMOUNT FROM

6:23:32THE 7.25 DOWN TO UH THE 4.49

6:23:39THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN.

6:23:41THOSE INDIVIDUALS THE CITY

6:23:42ATTORNEY, THE CITY MANAGER,

6:23:44CITY AUDITOR THE FLEXIBILITY

6:23:47WITH HER EMPLOYEES, THE NON

6:23:50BARGAINING EMPLOYEES.

6:23:51TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANTED.

6:23:54SO IF YOU SET THIS HERE AND SAY

6:23:56THIS IS A.

6:23:57BUCKET OF.

6:23:57>> MONEY THEY CAN THE NON

6:24:00BARGAINING.

6:24:01UNIT THEY CAN DIVIDE THAT

6:24:03DOLLAR AMOUNT AS LONG AS THEY

6:24:05STAY WITHIN.

6:24:06THE BUCKET I.

6:24:08DON'T PERSONALLY FEEL THAT'S

6:24:11RIGHT WE HAVE ALMOST 2000

6:24:14EMPLOYEES.

6:24:15WE APPROVE NOT ONLY THE CITY

6:24:18ATTORNEY THE CITY AUDITOR AND

6:24:20THE CITY MANAGER'S CONTRACTS

6:24:22AND THEIR SALARY INCREASES.

6:24:24WE DO IT FOR THE FIRE

6:24:26DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL AS FAR AS

6:24:29THE UNIONIZED THE POLICE

6:24:31DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS THE

6:24:33UNIONIZED AND THE GENERALS

6:24:34WITH.

6:24:35ALL THE DIFFERENT

6:24:36CLASSIFICATIONS OF NON

6:24:38BARGAINING I'M SORRY BARGAINING

6:24:41THE BARGAINING EMPLOYEES.

6:24:43I FEEL.

6:24:44THIS BODY SHOULD ALSO DO THE

6:24:48NON BARGAINING.

6:24:51THERE'S 145 NON BARGAINING

6:24:53EMPLOYEES.

6:24:55WE DO ALMOST 1800.

6:24:57WHY WOULDN'T WE DO.

6:24:58>> THE.

6:24:59OTHER 145 PEOPLE BECAUSE.

6:25:02WHAT COULD HAPPEN AND WHAT HAS

6:25:04HAPPENED IS AND I DON'T THINK

6:25:07THIS IS AN ANYTHING AGAINST OUR

6:25:09CURRENT CITY MANAGER I THINK

6:25:11THIS IS JUST GOOD POLICY FOR

6:25:13THE FUTURE FOR THE FOR THE

6:25:16COUNCIL WHOEVER THAT MAY BE

6:25:17THAT WILL MAKE THAT DECISION.

6:25:19WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS

6:25:23THAT AND IT HAS HAPPENED IN THE

6:25:24PAST WHERE SAY THE CITY MANAGER

6:25:28THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN SAY WELL

6:25:31YOU KNOW BARGAINING GOT THREE

6:25:34AND A QUARTER AND 1.24 AND

6:25:36THAT'S 4.49 BUT WE BUDGETED

6:25:407.25%.

6:25:43JUST TO GIVE YOU AN ANOTHER

6:25:44EXAMPLE, EVEN WHEN WE HAD THE

6:25:46DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY

6:25:47ATTORNEY IF YOU RECALL I'M

6:25:51SAYING DURING THAT DISCUSSION I

6:25:53WANT WHAT WAS BUDGETED 7.25%

6:25:57NOW WE DIDN'T GO DOWN THAT PATH

6:25:59AND WE MADE IT 3.25%.

6:26:02BUT I THINK THAT IF.

6:26:05EVERYONE ELSE.

6:26:06HAS TO HAVE THE APPROVAL OF

6:26:08CITY COUNCIL THEN THE NON

6:26:11BARGAINING SHOULD AS WELL.

6:26:14AND WITH THAT BEING SAID I KNOW

6:26:17IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN

6:26:20CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE OTHER

6:26:22INDIVIDUALS WHETHER IT BE

6:26:24ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS WHETHER

6:26:26IT'S OTHER DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS

6:26:28OR UH THE POLICE CHIEF OR FIRE

6:26:30CHIEF UH THEIR THEIR RANGE WAS

6:26:34OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THE

6:26:36BARGAINING OR MAYBE EVEN SOME

6:26:37OF THE NON BARGAINING EMPLOYEES

6:26:39THEY HAD A A HIGHER LEVEL OF AN

6:26:41INCREASE I THINK THAT ALL

6:26:43SHOULD BE DETERMINED AND

6:26:45APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL.

6:26:48AND THE REASON THAT I BROUGHT

6:26:49IT UP TONIGHT TWO REASONS ONE

6:26:52BEING WE ALREADY KNOW WE

6:26:56ALLOCATED TO 5.29 UH.

6:27:034.49 UH FOR THE FOR THE NON

6:27:06BARGAINING.

6:27:06BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID.

6:27:09THAT STILL GIVES CITY AUDITOR

6:27:11CITY MANAGER AND A CITY

6:27:13ATTORNEY THE FLEXIBILITY AS

6:27:16LONG AS THEY PLAY WITHIN THAT

6:27:17POT OF MONEY THEY COULD GIVE

6:27:20THIS PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE SAY

6:27:22THEY THEY DIDN'T GET A

6:27:23FAVORABLE EVALUATION.

6:27:25WELL THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO GET

6:27:262 OR 3% WHERE.

6:27:28THEY COULD GIVE.

6:27:305 OR 6% TO ANOTHER EMPLOYEE

6:27:33BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING

6:27:33OUTSTANDING WORK.

6:27:35SO THEY STILL HAVE THAT

6:27:37FLEXIBILITY.

6:27:38AND I THINK THAT TRYING TO BE

6:27:40FAIR AND EQUITABLE ACROSS THE

6:27:42BOARD THAT NO MATTER.

6:27:46IF YOU'RE A BARGAINING OR NON

6:27:47BARGAINING WE SHOULD TRY TO SAY

6:27:50CONSISTENT UNLESS THIS BODY

6:27:52MAKES A DETERMINATION FOR

6:27:54WHATEVER REASON TO DO SOMETHING

6:27:57DIFFERENT.

6:27:59SO I THINK THAT NUMBER ONE WE

6:28:03SHOULD.

6:28:03MAKE IT CLEAR TO GIVE YOU

6:28:05ANOTHER EXAMPLE WE HAVE FOUR

6:28:07EMPLOYEES UH AND NON BARGAINING

6:28:09THAT ARE TOPPED OUT NOW WE KNOW

6:28:14WITH THE.

6:28:15UH AND THAT THE BARGAINING UNIT

6:28:19THEY HAVE 97 EMPLOYEES THAT ARE

6:28:21TOP DOWN AND THEY'RE ONLY

6:28:23GETTING $1,000 INCREASE BECAUSE

6:28:26THEY'RE TOPPED OUT IN RANGE ARE

6:28:30THE SAME OR INDIVIDUALS THAT

6:28:32ARE TOPPED OUT AND I DON'T EVEN

6:28:34KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

6:28:35I JUST KNOW IT'S FOR ARE THEY

6:28:37GOING TO GET THE THOUSAND

6:28:39DOLLARS OR ARE THEY GOING TO

6:28:42GET THE 4.49?

6:28:45WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S UP TO

6:28:48THE CITY MANAGER, CITY AUDITOR

6:28:51OR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

6:28:53SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD

6:28:57THROW IT ALL INTO A POT OF

6:28:59MONEY AND LET THEM MAKE THAT

6:29:01DETERMINATION.

6:29:02I SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER

6:29:04DURING MY ONE ON ONE MEETINGS.

6:29:06I'M SURE HE'LL SPEAK TONIGHT IF

6:29:07HE'S HERE OR I SEE, OR IS HERE

6:29:11UH, FOR HIM.

6:29:13BUT I THINK.

6:29:14THE DECISION LIES WITH.

6:29:17THOSE 145 EMPLOYEES JUST LIKE

6:29:21THE OTHER 1800 IN OUR HANDS NOW

6:29:24REALIZE THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE

6:29:25A ORDINANCE CHANGED AND ONE OF

6:29:27THE OTHER THINGS THAT I'LL BE

6:29:28ASKING IF IF THIS BODY AGREES

6:29:31TO THAT IS FOR A SECOND TO

6:29:34BRING THAT BACK IN TWO WEEKS.

6:29:37SO I THINK NUMBER ONE WE SHOULD

6:29:39HAVE A MOTION ON EXACTLY WHAT

6:29:42THE NON BARGAINING WILL BE

6:29:43GETTING WITH WILL THEY BE

6:29:45GETTING THE THREE AND A QUARTER

6:29:46THE 1.24.

6:29:49WITH AS A MAXIMUM.

6:29:52AND THE CITY MANAGER CITY

6:29:55ATTORNEY THE CITY AUDITOR

6:29:57DOESN'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO

6:29:59PLAY THE GAME WELL THIS PERSON

6:30:01ONLY GOT 2%.

6:30:02SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE 6% OVER

6:30:04HERE BECAUSE IT'S STILL WITHIN

6:30:05THE SILO.

6:30:06IT'S STILL WITHIN A BUCKET OF

6:30:07MONEY I DON'T THINK THAT'S

6:30:09RIGHT I THINK THE MAXIMUM

6:30:10SHOULD BE THE MAXIMUM FOR EACH

6:30:12EMPLOYEE IF FOR WHATEVER REASON

6:30:14THEY GET AN UNFAVORABLE

6:30:16VALUATION THEN THAT EMPLOYEE

6:30:18DOESN'T GET WHATEVER HE OR SHE

6:30:21IS, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T.

6:30:22GET WHAT.

6:30:24THE FULL MAXIMUM POTENTIAL WAS.

6:30:26BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANOTHER

6:30:27EMPLOYEE SHOULD GET MORE OR

6:30:30GIVE THAT LATITUDE TO THE CITY

6:30:32MANAGER, CITY OWNER OR CITY

6:30:34MANAGER WHERE THEY GET HIGHER

6:30:35THAN THE 4.49%.

6:30:37SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT.

6:30:38THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT

6:30:40KIND.

6:30:41OF PLAYED INTO OUR DISCUSSION

6:30:44FROM THE BUDGETARY PROCESS THEN

6:30:47GO ON STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS

6:30:48HEY WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE NON

6:30:50BARGAINING ASPECT?

6:30:51AND THAT'S WHEN I FOUND OUT AND

6:30:53I'VE BEEN HERE NINE YEARS.

6:30:55THAT'S WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT AS

6:30:59LONG AS THEY PLAY WITHIN A

6:31:00BUCKET OF MONEY THEY'RE FINE

6:31:02AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.

6:31:05SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I'LL

6:31:07OPEN IT UP FOR ANY.

6:31:08>> MISTER MAYOR, CAN YOU

6:31:09CLARIFY.

6:31:09>> YOUR REQUEST FOR A SECOND?

6:31:10WELL, MY SECOND WOULD BE TO

6:31:12BRING AN ORDINANCE BACK THAT

6:31:13WOULD COMPEL THE CITY ATTORNEY

6:31:16,THE CITY MANAGER, THE OR THE

6:31:17CITY AUDITOR UH, TO BRING BACK

6:31:20FOR THE NON BARGAINING

6:31:22EMPLOYEES UNDER UNDER THEIR

6:31:24PURVIEW WHAT EXACTLY THEIR PAY

6:31:27RAISE WOULD BE.

6:31:29I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE ALWAYS

6:31:31TRIED TO MIMIC WHAT UH

6:31:34BARGAINING GOT BUT THERE ARE

6:31:37CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THAT DIDN'T

6:31:38HAPPEN AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE

6:31:40TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.

6:31:43>> SO I'LL.

6:31:43>> GIVE YOU A SECOND FOR THAT.

6:31:44AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US I'M

6:31:46SORRY I HIT MY LATE AM I THE

6:31:47TURN THAT WOULD ALLOW US AN

6:31:50OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THERE WOULD

6:31:51BE TWO READINGS IF THE

6:31:51ORDINANCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

6:31:53THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY

6:31:54WHEN YOU BRING IT BACK TO HAVE

6:31:55THE DISCUSSION THEN AND LOOK AT

6:31:57THE FINER POINTS INSTEAD OF

6:31:58ASKING ANY OF THAT OUT TONIGHT

6:31:59.

6:31:59AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING

6:32:01THAT WE COULD ADD UH, IF YOU

6:32:02WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE FURTHER

6:32:04DISCUSSION ON IT, YOU KNOW.

6:32:05YEAH IT GETS A BUY IN ON IT.

6:32:07WE COULD ADD THIS TO THE

6:32:08COUNCIL MEETING NEXT WEEK.

6:32:09YEAH LET'S DO IT.

6:32:09I'M A I'M I'M I'M ON BOARD I'M

6:32:12ON BOARD THAT.

6:32:13YEAH THAT WAY WE CAN.

6:32:15HAVE STAFF BRING.

6:32:16>> US BACK THE ORDINANCE STAFF

6:32:17CAN PROVIDE THE ORDINANCE

6:32:19WHAT'S IN PLACE TODAY AND WE'LL

6:32:21SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S THERE AND

6:32:23THEN WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION

6:32:25AND THEN BY THE NEXT.

6:32:26MEETING THE.

6:32:27FOLLOWING WEEK.

6:32:28UH WHICH IS UH OCTOBER.

6:32:31>> 20TH.

6:32:31UH FOURTH I THINK IT IS.

6:32:33THE 21ST.

6:32:3521ST UH WE COULD HAVE THE FIRST

6:32:37READING THEN AND THEN UM I

6:32:39THINK NOVEMBER 4TH WE HAVE A

6:32:41MEETING SOMEWHERE ABOUT.

6:32:42THE THIRD OR FOURTH.

6:32:43UM I AGREE WITH IT.

6:32:45SO UH BUT I THINK ONE THING

6:32:49THAT'S GOOD ON THAT ASPECT BUT

6:32:51I THINK WHAT WE EITHER HAVE TO

6:32:53DO IS DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER

6:32:56TO ONLY DO WE WANT HIM FOR THIS

6:32:58YEAR TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY

6:33:00OR DO WE WANT TO SET THE

6:33:02MAXIMUM ALLOWED AT 4.49% PER

6:33:06EMPLOYEE?

6:33:07UH, TO STAY WITHIN THE CONFINES

6:33:11WITH THE THOUSAND DOLLAR

6:33:13MAXIMUM IF YOU'RE TAUGHT THAT

6:33:14YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO MEAN DO

6:33:16WE REALLY WANT TO MIMIC WHAT

6:33:18THE NON BARGAINING I'M SORRY

6:33:20WHAT THE BARGAINING UH GOT

6:33:22VERSUS WHAT THE NON BARGAINING

6:33:23GETS.

6:33:23AND I THINK THE ONLY WAY THAT'S

6:33:25GOING TO HAPPEN IS BY A.

6:33:27BY A VOTE HERE BY THE COUNCIL.

6:33:30UM SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY UH

6:33:33WHEN WE DO THAT IF WE DO THAT

6:33:34RIGHT UH TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE

6:33:38AS WE KNOW WE APPROVE NON

6:33:40BARGAINING UH I'M SORRY

6:33:42BARGAINING TONIGHT SO THAT WILL

6:33:44GO INTO THE END.

6:33:45IN FACT THE FIRST.

6:33:46FULL PAY PERIOD.

6:33:48SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE

6:33:50WANT TO DO FOR THE NON

6:33:52BARGAINING I THINK THAT MOTION

6:33:54HAS TO BE MADE HERE TONIGHT.

6:33:56UM WITH THAT BEING SAID SEE THE

6:33:58CITY MANAGER'S UH LATE UM MISS

6:34:01PLACE.

6:34:02TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THAT

6:34:03YOU POSED TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT

6:34:05UM HOW NON BARGAINING EMPLOYEES

6:34:07WHO ARE MAXED OUT IN THE RANGE

6:34:08WERE TO.

6:34:09>> BE TREATED.

6:34:10I BELIEVE YOU ASKED STAFF.

6:34:11THAT QUESTION LAST WEEK AND.

6:34:13COUNCIL RECEIVED AN EMAIL UM

6:34:15FROM A HR DIRECTOR FROM OUR HR.

6:34:17DIRECTOR FROM NANCY THAT YOU

6:34:18ALL RECEIVED LAST WEEK

6:34:20CONFIRMING THAT THE MAXED OUT

6:34:22EMPLOYEES IN THE NON BARGAINING

6:34:24UM, GROUP OF EMPLOYEES.

6:34:25WOULD BE TREATED.

6:34:26SIMILARLY TO.

6:34:27>> THE BARGAINING EMPLOYEES WHO

6:34:29ARE MAXED OUT IN THEIR RANGE.

6:34:29SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE

6:34:31RECORD.

6:34:31ALL OF.

6:34:32>> YOU HAVE ALREADY.

6:34:32RECEIVED AN EMAIL.

6:34:33I BELIEVE YOU RECEIVED THAT

6:34:34EMAIL LAST WEEK CONFIRMING THAT

6:34:35INFORMATION.

6:34:37AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

6:34:38BUT WHAT THAT DOES NOT DO IS

6:34:40THAT DOESN'T RESTRICT THE

6:34:42FLEXIBILITY OF.

6:34:46IF AN INDIVIDUAL GETS LESS THAN

6:34:48THE FAVORABLE 4.49 THAT LEAVES

6:34:51MONEY IN THE BUCKET.

6:34:52RIGHT THAT THE CITY MANAGER THE

6:34:55CITY AUDITOR TO SAY CAN

6:34:57DISTRIBUTE ANYWAY.

6:34:58SO THAT'S WHY I THINK TONIGHT

6:35:00THERE SHOULD BE A MOTION THAT

6:35:03SPECIFICALLY SETS UP THE UH THE

6:35:08GUARDRAILS FOR THAT AND I DON'T

6:35:11MIND PASSING THE GAVEL.

6:35:12I CAN MAKE THE MOTION.

6:35:13I'LL PASS THE GAVEL TO, UH, THE

6:35:16MAYOR PRO TEM I THINK WITH NON

6:35:18BARGAINING EMPLOYEES WE MATCH

6:35:21UH WITH THE BARGAINING UNIT HAS

6:35:23AND THAT IS A 3.25 AND A 1.24

6:35:28FOR A MAXIMUM OF A 4.49 PER

6:35:31EMPLOYEE AND UH THAT WOULD BE

6:35:34THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT ANY NON

6:35:37BARGAINING EMPLOYEE COULD

6:35:39RECEIVE IF THEY ARE MAXED OUT

6:35:41IN THEIR RANGE THEN THEY ONLY

6:35:43GET A $1,000 INCREASE.

6:35:45LIKE THAT.

6:35:46>> LIKE WAS STIPULATED IN THE

6:35:48EMAIL THAT MISS WEISS HAD

6:35:50MENTIONED.

6:35:50SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION HERE

6:35:53.

6:35:53I'M I'M.

6:35:54>> A.

6:35:54LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT THAT

6:35:55RUNS A FOLLOW THE CURRENT

6:35:57ORDINANCE.

6:35:58AND I COULD READ YOU THE

6:36:00ORDINANCE AND CHANGE SO.

6:36:03>> COULD WE DIRECT THE CITY

6:36:06MANAGER AND YOURSELF AND THE

6:36:09CITY AUDITOR NOT TO DO ANY

6:36:11INCREASES?

6:36:11I HATE TO DO THAT.

6:36:12WE'LL MAKE THEM RETROACTIVE I'M

6:36:14SURE.

6:36:15BUT IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT

6:36:17MOTION IS CONTRADICTORY TO OUR

6:36:21CURRENT ORDINANCE.

6:36:22I MEAN THE ORDINANCE IS.

6:36:24CLEAR IN REGARDS TO.

6:36:26HOW I'M GOING TO READ IT.

6:36:28UM.

6:36:29>> BEAR WITH ME, I.

6:36:33>> HAVE IT.

6:36:37AND IT STATES.

6:36:38>> WHAT'S THE.

6:36:38ORDINANCE NUMBER, MR..

6:36:39CITY ATTORNEY?

6:36:40UH.

6:36:41>> JUST HOLD ON JUST A COUPLE

6:36:43ONES.

6:36:43UM.

6:36:44>> YOU GOT TWO DASH 37.2.

6:36:50YOU GOT.

6:36:56TWO DASH 37.10 AND I'M GOING TO

6:36:58READ FROM TEN.

6:36:59HERE LET ME MAKE IT EASY FOR

6:37:01YOU MR. CITY ATTORNEY I'M GOING

6:37:02TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND

6:37:06REVISE MY MOTION.

6:37:07MY MOTION IS GOING TO BE THAT

6:37:09UNTIL WE GET THIS RESOLVED HERE

6:37:11IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS

6:37:13THAT THERE'S NO INCREASE FOR

6:37:14THE NON BARGAINING EMPLOYEES.

6:37:17UH, BUT ONCE THIS IS RESOLVED

6:37:20THAT ALL OF THE UH PAY WILL BE

6:37:23RETROACTIVE TO THE FIRST FULL

6:37:25PAY PERIOD OF OCTOBER, I THINK

6:37:27WE CAN GET THIS RESOLVED UH, IN

6:37:29THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

6:37:30UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION

6:37:33.

6:37:33THAT WAY THERE'S NOTHING THAT

6:37:36CAN BE DONE OR ANY FLEXIBILITY

6:37:37WITH MOVING MONIES TO ONE

6:37:41EMPLOYEE OVER ANOTHER.

6:37:42OH, SO.

6:37:43>> THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

6:37:44>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

6:37:44DOES THE SECOND AGREE.

6:37:47IF I MAY.

6:37:48YEAH IF I MAY I'M SORRY.

6:37:53AS PART.

6:37:54OF THE BUDGETARY PROCESS.

6:37:56THERE WAS AN IDENTIFICATION OF

6:37:57.

6:37:57UH OF OF THE INCREASE WHICH

6:38:00WHICH WAS DONE DURING THE

6:38:01ANNUAL.

6:38:02BUDGET DELIBERATIONS.

6:38:04.

6:38:05>> THAT IS WITHOUT A.

6:38:05QUESTION THAT WAS DONE

6:38:07IDENTIFYING 3.25% TO.

6:38:101.24 THAT.

6:38:12>> WAS ALREADY DONE.

6:38:14THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF ITS

6:38:16ANNUAL BUDGET DELIBERATIONS MAY

6:38:17ESTABLISH A METHOD OF PAY

6:38:18INCREASES FOR EMPLOYEES

6:38:21INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED AND

6:38:22IT GOES ON TO.

6:38:23IDENTIFY ALL THE DIFFERENT.

6:38:24PROVISIONS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN

6:38:26DONE.

6:38:28THAT WAS APPROVED UPON AND IN

6:38:31THAT SAME SECTION AND THAT SAME

6:38:34PROVISION.

6:38:35IT GOES ON TO SAY.

6:38:45SUCH INCREASES SHALL BE FOR ALL

6:38:47CITY EMPLOYEES WHOSE

6:38:49CLASSIFICATIONS ARE NOT

6:38:50INCLUDED IN ANY COLLECTIVE

6:38:52BARGAINING UNIT.

6:38:54INCREASES SHALL BE EFFECTIVE AS

6:38:56OF THE.

6:38:56FIRST BIWEEKLY PAYROLL.

6:38:57PERIOD BEGINNING AFTER.

6:39:00OCTOBER 1ST.

6:39:01>> I I'M JUST CONCERNED.

6:39:05THAT WE.

6:39:06ARE TREADING.

6:39:07DOWN A PATH THAT VIOLATES.

6:39:11A SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROVISIONS.

6:39:13OF OUR ORDINANCE AND GOING BACK

6:39:15TO THE FIRST SECTION THAT I

6:39:16READ.

6:39:19WHICH WAS SECTION TWO DASH 37.3

6:39:23WAS TO IT SAYS.

6:39:29RATES OF PAY WITHIN PAY.

6:39:31GRADE SHALL BE.

6:39:32ESTABLISHED, SHALL BE

6:39:34ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY MANAGER

6:39:35OR THE CITY MANAGER'S NEED.

6:39:37FOR HIRE REHIRE.

6:39:40,PROMOTION, TRANSFER, DEMOTION

6:39:42,RECLASSIFICATION.

6:39:44OR ALLOCATION.

6:39:46SO I SAY THAT SENTENCE ONE LAST

6:39:47TIME.

6:39:48RATES OF PAY WITHIN PAY GRADES.

6:39:51SHALL BE ESTABLISHED.

6:39:55BY THE CITY MANAGER AND AND THE

6:39:57CITY MANAGER.

6:39:57THERE'S ANOTHER PROVISION THAT

6:39:59SAYS ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH

6:40:01THE CITY MANAGER ALSO APPLIES

6:40:02TO THE CITY AUDITOR AND THE

6:40:03CITY ATTORNEY.

6:40:04FOR HIRE REHIRE.

6:40:05PROMOTION, TRANSFER, DEMOTION,

6:40:08RECLASSIFICATION OR

6:40:08REALLOCATION.

6:40:09SO WE'VE GOT A SLEW OF

6:40:11PROVISIONS IN HERE.

6:40:13UH.

6:40:14>> THAT ADDRESSES THAT

6:40:16AUTHORITY AND ESPECIALLY WITH

6:40:18THE BUDGET BEING APPROVED.

6:40:23I'M JUST.

6:40:24CONCERNED THAT.

6:40:25WE'RE GOING TO BE ESSENTIALLY

6:40:26DOING SOMETHING THAT IS

6:40:30IMPERMISSIBLE.

6:40:31WELL, IF WE CHANGE THE

6:40:33ORDINANCE.

6:40:33IT'S NOT IMPERMISSIBLE.

6:40:34SO THAT'S THAT'S THE PATH THAT

6:40:36WE'RE TAKING HERE.

6:40:37RIGHT.

6:40:38>> BUT THERE.

6:40:39>> IS.

6:40:39ALREADY ACTION THAT HAS BEEN

6:40:40TAKEN BY THE COUNCIL ON

6:40:41APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET.

6:40:42>> ON THIS THIS COUNCIL CAN

6:40:43TAKE ANOTHER ACTION.

6:40:46AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE

6:40:48DOING TONIGHT.

6:40:55ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

6:40:57SO SO WE WE HAVE A UH WE.

6:40:59HAVE A MOTION.

6:40:59AND A SECOND UM UH IS THERE ANY

6:41:03UH.

6:41:04UH COMMENT QUESTION.

6:41:09MADAM CITY.

6:41:10GET HER.

6:41:11>> TO.

6:41:11REPEAT THE.

6:41:12>> MOTION WAS WITHDRAWN.

6:41:15THERE WAS IT WAS RESTATED.

6:41:16RESTATED IT.

6:41:17REVISED.

6:41:18>> AND YOU'RE UP TO YOUR SECOND

6:41:19.

6:41:21MADAM CITY CLERK, COULD YOU

6:41:23REREAD THE MOTION FIRST, PLEASE

6:41:24?

6:41:24YES.

6:41:25>> I HAVE A MOTION FROM MAYOR

6:41:28GUNTER.

6:41:28MOTION TO UNTIL RESOLVED.

6:41:34NO INCREASE FOR NON BARGAINING

6:41:36EMPLOYEES ONCE RESOLVED

6:41:39RETROACTIVE TO THE FIRST FULL

6:41:40PAY PERIOD.

6:41:42OVER IN OCTOBER.

6:41:46SECOND DEGREE.

6:41:49MAYOR PRO TEM MY MY ONLY

6:41:51QUESTION IS I WOULD LIKE TO

6:41:53HAVE OUR OUR LEGAL COUNSEL

6:41:55WEIGH IN I HAVE NO I SEE WHERE

6:41:56WE'RE GOING BUT WE DON'T WANT

6:41:58TO YOU KNOW WE HAVE ENOUGH

6:41:59STUFF TO JUGGLE.

6:42:00I JUST LIKE TO HEAR HIS

6:42:03RECOMMENDATION.

6:42:03YOU SEE WHERE WE WANT TO GO,

6:42:05WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE

6:42:06ORDINANCE.

6:42:07THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE

6:42:09IS.

6:42:09BUT THAT'S NOT HAPPENING FOR A

6:42:10COUPLE OF WEEKS.

6:42:11BUT WE.

6:42:11>> WANT TO MAKE SURE IN BETWEEN

6:42:12NOW AND THEN THAT THAT.

6:42:16UM WHAT.

6:42:17WE'RE SEEKING TO HAPPEN WILL

6:42:19HAPPEN IN THAT TIME FRAME.

6:42:21SO HOW DO WE GET THERE SO THAT

6:42:23YOU HAVE A LEVEL OF COMFORT BUT

6:42:25MORE IMPORTANTLY WE GET DONE

6:42:27WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.

6:42:31YOU'VE ALREADY THIS.

6:42:33COUNCIL BY WAY OF ITS ANNUAL

6:42:35BUDGET DELIBERATIONS HAVE.

6:42:37ALREADY AUTHORIZED.

6:42:39THOSE INCREASES TO THE NON

6:42:41BARGAINING EMPLOYEES.

6:42:42THE MOTION AS IT STANDS RIGHT

6:42:44NOW WILL.

6:42:45>> RUN AFOUL OF TWO.

6:42:46DASH 37.10 I JUST NOTHING I CAN

6:42:50DO ABOUT THAT I WANT YOU TO

6:42:52KNOW BECAUSE THOSE INCREASES

6:42:55HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED

6:42:57THERE FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT

6:42:59AND THEY THAT ARE NOT IN A

6:43:01COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT,

6:43:02THEY'RE EFFECTIVE IN THE FIRST

6:43:04BIWEEKLY PERIOD.

6:43:09SO I I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE TO

6:43:14SAY OTHER THAN I BELIEVE THAT

6:43:16MOTION WILL RUN.

6:43:16AFOUL OF OF OUR CURRENT

6:43:20ORDINANCE.

6:43:20>> ALL RIGHT.

6:43:21THANK YOU.

6:43:23MAYOR GUNTER.

6:43:24WHEN WHEN DO WE APPROVE THE

6:43:26BUDGETARY PROCESS?

6:43:27ON WHAT DAY?

6:43:31MARTIN UH, I DON'T I DON'T.

6:43:3428 SECOND BUDGET HEARING.

6:43:36SECOND BUDGET.

6:43:37>> YEAR.

6:43:382028 2015 OR 28.

6:43:4024TH SO SO PUSH COMES TO SHOVE

6:43:43IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THIS IS THE

6:43:45FIRST MEETING AFTER THE BUDGET

6:43:49PROCESS WAS APPROVED SO THERE

6:43:51COULD BE A RECONSIDERATION.

6:43:52>> THAT NO.

6:43:54NO MEETING.

6:43:55>> WOULD.

6:43:55HAVE.

6:43:56THAT MONDAY SPECIAL.

6:43:57>> MEETING ON THE 28TH.

6:43:57OH THAT'S RIGHT.

6:43:58OH WE DIDN'T SO YOU'RE SAYING

6:43:59THE MUD IS.

6:44:00MONDAY THE 28TH?

6:44:01>> THE SPECIAL MEETING WOULD

6:44:02HAVE BEEN MORE.

6:44:03THAN THAT.

6:44:03IT WOULD BE A MOTION FOR

6:44:05RECONSIDERATION OF ADOPTING.

6:44:06THE ENTIRE BUDGET WHICH.

6:44:08RIGHT RIGHT.

6:44:11AFTER THE.

6:44:12FISCAL YEAR HAS.

6:44:13STARTED WE'RE LITERALLY.

6:44:15COMMITTING.

6:44:16>> I JUST CAN'T RECOMMEND THAT

6:44:20AND IT WE RUN A.

6:44:21POLICY I STILL HAVE THE FLOOR

6:44:23TO.

6:44:24UM YES.

6:44:25YEP.

6:44:26>> I JUST THINK THAT WE CAN

6:44:27CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH AND

6:44:29STILL GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO

6:44:30GO IN A IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT

6:44:32OF TIME.

6:44:33UM, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR IT SOUNDS

6:44:35LIKE A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL IS

6:44:37ON BOARD UH, WITH THE

6:44:39RECOMMENDATION.

6:44:39SO UH, FOR ME I I'LL SUPPORT

6:44:42THE, UH THE MOTION THAT WAS

6:44:43MADE.

6:44:44WE CAN GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.

6:44:46I'LL ADD IT TO THE COUNCIL

6:44:47MEETING NEXT WEEK SO WE CAN

6:44:49HAVE SOME MORE DETAILS AS FAR

6:44:51AS YOU KNOW, AND GET STAFF TO

6:44:53PROVIDE THE ORDINANCES, ALL THE

6:44:55ORDINANCES THAT PERTAIN TO THIS

6:44:57SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT.

6:44:58HAVE A DISCUSSION.

6:44:59>> NEXT WEEK.

6:45:05COUNCIL MEMBER KAJU.

6:45:06THANK YOU.

6:45:07MAYOR PRO.

6:45:08>> TEM JUST TO BE.

6:45:08CLEAR OUR LEGAL.

6:45:10COUNSEL IS ADVISING US AGAINST

6:45:11THIS.

6:45:12IS THAT CORRECT, MR. CITY

6:45:13ATTORNEY?

6:45:14WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE

6:45:15MOTION RUNS AFOUL.

6:45:17>> OF TWO.

6:45:17DASH 37.10.

6:45:20WITHOUT IS RIGHT.

6:45:27I CAN ONLY.

6:45:27PROVIDE YOU LEGAL ADVICE.

6:45:29I CAN'T MAKE YOU FOLLOW IT.

6:45:32COUNCIL MEMBER LONG.

6:45:33SO I GUESS IN THAT IN THAT

6:45:35LIGHT AS FAR AS PROVIDING LEGAL

6:45:36ADVICE I DON'T THINK THE

6:45:37QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED.

6:45:37ARE YOU.

6:45:38AWARE OF A LEGAL.

6:45:41UH, AVENUE.

6:45:42THAT WE COULD TAKE TO.

6:45:43EFFECTUATE THE.

6:45:45THE GOAL THAT.

6:45:46>> THE MAYOR HAS SET FORTH?

6:45:47YOU COULD.

6:45:48CERTAINLY DO IT PROSPECTIVELY.

6:45:49WHAT HAS BEEN DONE NOW HAS BEEN

6:45:51DONE NOW IF.

6:45:52THERE WAS UM.

6:45:54FOR THE FUTURE I.

6:45:55MEAN THAT IS A VIABLE OPTION.

6:46:00BUT IN TERMS OF.

6:46:04OF TRYING TO.

6:46:05IMPACT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU DID.

6:46:08RIGHT NOW.

6:46:08I'M NOT REALLY SURE I COULD

6:46:11THINK OF A MECHANISM.

6:46:14AND I'M THINKING SURE.

6:46:15ENOUGH RIGHT NOW I.

6:46:16UNDERSTAND I JUST THERE'S

6:46:17THERE'S TWO.

6:46:18AVENUES HERE, RIGHT?

6:46:19THERE'S THE BUDGET AVENUE WHICH

6:46:20WE CAN EXPLORED REALLY BRIEFLY

6:46:21.

6:46:21IT'S A IT'S A NUCLEAR WE CAN'T

6:46:23GO DOWN THAT CORRECT.

6:46:24BUT THAT BUT I THINK WHAT THE.

6:46:26>> MAYOR'S PROPOSING IF I

6:46:27UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THAT

6:46:28FIGURE DOESN'T CHANGE.

6:46:29HE'S JUST.

6:46:31HE'S DESIRING.

6:46:33TO PUT A.

6:46:34LIMITATION ON HOW THAT FIGURE

6:46:35IS UTILIZED WHICH IS.

6:46:36OUTSIDE OF THAT THE BUDGET

6:46:38HEARING.

6:46:38ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS EXTRACT

6:46:39THE TWO ITEMS BECAUSE WE'VE

6:46:40SOMEHOW MERGE THEM TOGETHER.

6:46:41RIGHT.

6:46:42YOU ASK THE QUESTION IF.

6:46:43>> WE CAN GO BACK AND I'M I'M

6:46:45AGREEING THAT WE.

6:46:45CAN THROW.

6:46:46>> THAT OUT.

6:46:47THE BUDGET HAS BEEN.

6:46:48SET RIGHT.

6:46:49>> WHAT HE'S DOING.

6:46:49ISN'T CHANGING THE BUDGET.

6:46:50RIGHT YOU'RE SAYING OR.

6:46:51>> THE.

6:46:52DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S WHAT I

6:46:53MEAN WHEN I SAY BUDGET THE

6:46:53DOLLAR AMOUNT REMAINS THE.

6:46:54SAME WHICH I THINK STILL.

6:46:56THE DOLLARS IT'S DOING IS JUST

6:46:58CHANGING HOW THAT THE THAT

6:47:00MONEY IS.

6:47:00IS SPENT.

6:47:01THE BUDGET.

6:47:02>> WHICH IS ALREADY.

6:47:02WHICH WHICH TO YOUR POINT NOW

6:47:04THAT WE'VE DISPOSED OF THE

6:47:06BUDGET SIDE.

6:47:07AS FAR AS RECONSIDERING WE.

6:47:09>> CAN'T DO THAT.

6:47:10YOU'RE SAYING GIVEN THAT.

6:47:13YOUR DETERMINATION ISN'T.

6:47:14BASED ON.

6:47:15THE FACT THAT WE'RE CHANGING

6:47:17THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT

6:47:18YOUR DETERMINATION IS BASED ON

6:47:19THE FACT THAT.

6:47:19THE ORDINANCE.

6:47:20SAYS OTHERWISE.

6:47:22AND WE CAN'T CHANGE.

6:47:24>> THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE AND

6:47:25I'M NOT QUESTIONING YOU.

6:47:26I'M JUST TRYING TO.

6:47:27RIGHT.

6:47:27>> BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT

6:47:28BECAUSE.

6:47:29>> WE ALREADY TOOK.

6:47:29ACTION ON.

6:47:30THAT I.

6:47:30>> TOOK ACTION.

6:47:31UNDER THAT ORDINANCE, CORRECT?

6:47:33CORRECT.

6:47:34>> BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU READ

6:47:37IT'S BLACK AND.

6:47:38WHITE WHERE IT SAYS INCREASES

6:47:39SHALL BE EFFECTIVE.

6:47:41AS OF THE FIRST BIWEEKLY

6:47:43PAYROLL PERIOD.

6:47:44BEGINNING AFTER OCTOBER 1ST.

6:47:46SO EVEN IF I WERE TO.

6:47:48DO WHAT THE MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO

6:47:50DO, WE WOULD HAVE ALREADY

6:47:53VIOLATED THE.

6:47:53LAW.

6:47:54,OUR LAW, OUR ORDINANCE.

6:47:56AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'D.

6:47:57WANT TO DO THAT.

6:47:58PROSPECTIVELY GRAY BUT WHEN I

6:48:02HAVE THIS THAT SAYS THAT IT

6:48:04SHALL TAKE EFFECT I DON'T KNOW

6:48:06HOW WE IGNORE THAT.

6:48:09THAT'S MY CONCERN.

6:48:12YEAH.

6:48:13>> IT'S A TOUGH ONE, MR. MAYOR,

6:48:15BECAUSE I AGREE HUNDRED PERCENT

6:48:16WITH THE WITH THE INTENT UM,

6:48:18AND OBVIOUSLY.

6:48:19PROSPECTIVELY MOVING FORWARD I

6:48:20THINK YOU'VE GOT A CONSENSUS TO

6:48:21DO THAT BUT IT IT PUTS US IN A

6:48:22TOUGH SPOT UM, RETROACTIVELY

6:48:25GIVEN.

6:48:25THAT OUR LEGAL COUNSEL HAS MADE

6:48:28THAT DETERMINATION, I DON'T

6:48:30KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE SITUATION

6:48:31SO OBVIOUSLY I WOULD DEFER TO

6:48:32HIM.

6:48:33UM.

6:48:34>> SO SO.

6:48:36>> I WOULD.

6:48:37>> BE VOTING AGAINST THE MOTION

6:48:37ON THE FLOOR BUT.

6:48:38ONLY NOT BECAUSE I DON'T

6:48:39BELIEVE IN THE INTENT OF IT BUT

6:48:41BECAUSE OF THE DIRECTION THAT

6:48:42HE'S PROVIDED.

6:48:44NOW IF IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO

6:48:46ALTHOUGH I GUESS IT'LL BE A

6:48:47MOOT POINT WHICH IS THE PURPOSE

6:48:48OF THE.

6:48:48OF THE MOTION.

6:48:49BUT IN A WEEK OR SO WHEN WE

6:48:50TALK ABOUT IT IN THE CAO.

6:48:51UM IF SOMETHING'S COME FORWARD

6:48:52THAT LEGALLY OR OTHERWISE THAT

6:48:55AUTHORIZES US TO DO THAT SURE.

6:48:57UM BUT BUT RIGHT NOW I'D HAVE A

6:48:59TOUGH TIME SUPPORTING IT NOT

6:49:00BECAUSE I DON'T AGREE WITH THE

6:49:02INTENT BUT ON A LEGAL BASIS ON

6:49:04.

6:49:04THANK YOU.

6:49:05>> I'VE GOT ANOTHER UH, LAY

6:49:07DOWN TO IT'S.

6:49:08IT IT'LL BE A SECOND ATTEMPT SO

6:49:11I'M GOING TO JUMP IN REAL.

6:49:12QUICK THE.

6:49:14BY MAKING IT RETROACTIVE MR.

6:49:17CITY ATTORNEY BY MAKING IT

6:49:20RETROACTIVE.

6:49:21DOESN'T THAT.

6:49:22>> FOLLOW THE WOULDN'T THAT

6:49:24STILL FOLLOW THE THE ORDINANCE

6:49:26THAT SAYS THAT IT BEGINS ON

6:49:27THAT FIRST PAY PERIOD DOES.

6:49:29IT SAY WHEN.

6:49:29SO SO THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT

6:49:32WHATEVER WHATEVER AMOUNT IS

6:49:34GIVEN IT'S EFFECTIVE.

6:49:36>> ON THAT DATE.

6:49:37SO IF WE WERE TO MAKE IT

6:49:39RETROACTIVE THAT WE WOULD STILL

6:49:42BE FOLLOWING THAT ORDINANCE

6:49:43WOULD WE NOT?

6:49:49AND THE AND THE THE.

6:49:50FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS.

6:49:52COULD WE JUST COULD THE ACTION

6:49:55BE TO UH.

6:49:56PUT A.

6:49:57>> MORATORIUM ON A DECISION FOR

6:50:01INCREASES UNTIL.

6:50:04IT'S BROUGHT BACK.

6:50:05TO US.

6:50:06TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE?

6:50:10BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN

6:50:11AUTHORIZED.

6:50:12THE BUDGET.

6:50:13YOU'VE ALREADY AUTHORIZED TO.

6:50:15INCREASE THAT WILL THE.

6:50:16THE WE AUTHORIZED WE AUTHORIZED

6:50:18THE BUCKET RIGHT.

6:50:20WHICH IS.

6:50:21>> BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST

6:50:22TIME THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND ALL

6:50:23THE BUCKET IF WE IF WE DIDN'T.

6:50:26WELL, ALL I'M.

6:50:28LETTING YOU KNOW.

6:50:28>> IS.

6:50:29THAT PURSUANT TO TWO DASH 37.10

6:50:33THE THE AUTHORIZATION HAS

6:50:36ALREADY.

6:50:37>> BEEN DONE THE AUTHORIZATION.

6:50:40>> THE AUTHORIZATION FOR WHAT?

6:50:42FOR THAT THE INCREASE AND WHEN

6:50:45WHEN I LOOK.

6:50:45TO THE ORDINANCE.

6:50:46IT TELLS ME WHEN IT'S BECOME

6:50:48EFFECTIVE AND IT.

6:50:49ALSO GRANTS THE.

6:50:51AUTHORITY FOR THAT INCREASE AS

6:50:53LONG AS IT STAYS WITHIN THE

6:50:54RATE OF PAY THAT DOESN'T GO

6:50:56BEYOND THE MAXIMUM OF.

6:50:58>> THE PAY GRADE.

6:50:59THAT'S ALL IN HERE AND.

6:51:01THAT'S ALL THAT CONTROLS.

6:51:02SO NOW.

6:51:03>> WE'RE TRYING TO.

6:51:05TAKE OUT FOR LACK.

6:51:06>> OF ANOTHER WORD.

6:51:07TRY TO TAKE ANOTHER BITE AT THE

6:51:08APPLE.

6:51:13OKAY.

6:51:13>> UH, MAYOR GUNTER.

6:51:15YOU KNOW FOR ME.

6:51:17WE'RE DOING EXACTLY.

6:51:18>> WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS

6:51:19WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO

6:51:21COMPENSATE THE EMPLOYEES BY THE

6:51:22FIRST PAY PERIOD.

6:51:24UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK

6:51:28BACK HISTORICALLY LOOK AT A LOT

6:51:29OF THE UNION CONTRACTS WE

6:51:31DIDN'T APPROVE THE UNION.

6:51:33CONTRACT SO JANUARY.

6:51:34FEBRUARY, MARCH BUT WE DID A

6:51:36RETROACTIVE YOU KNOW, SO UM,

6:51:39YOU KNOW, AND TYPICALLY IN

6:51:41THEIR CONTRACTS IT SAYS IT'S

6:51:42THE FIRST.

6:51:43UH PAY WEEK IN OCTOBER AND

6:51:45THAT'S USUALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE

6:51:47NOW WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

6:51:48UH IF WE DID SOMETHING A LITTLE

6:51:50DIFFERENTLY THIS THIS LAST TIME

6:51:52UM, BUT I THINK WE'RE STILL

6:51:54WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE OF

6:51:56OF OF THE ORDINANCE EXCEPT FOR

6:51:59THE PORTION THE REASON WE'RE

6:52:02HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, YOU

6:52:04KNOW, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T PUT

6:52:05ANY GUARDRAILS UP UH, TOMORROW

6:52:07,UH, THE CITY MANAGER OR CITY

6:52:10ORDER OR CITY ATTORNEY CAN GIVE

6:52:11ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES UH, AS

6:52:14LONG AS THERE'S MONEY IN A

6:52:15BUCKET MAYBE IF A COUPLE OTHER

6:52:17EMPLOYEES AND I THINK THE CITY

6:52:18MANAGER HAS MORE LATITUDE

6:52:19BECAUSE HE HAS MORE EMPLOYEES,

6:52:21THE CITY AUDITOR AND CITY

6:52:23ATTORNEY HAVE VERY MINIMAL

6:52:25AMOUNT.

6:52:25SO THEIR BUCKET IS ACTUALLY

6:52:27MUCH SMALLER REALLY THERE'S

6:52:29THREE BUCKETS HERE.

6:52:30EACH ONE OF THEM HAVE THEIR OWN

6:52:31BUCKET.

6:52:32UH, SO YOU KNOW, UH I'LL

6:52:36SUPPORT THE UH THE MOTION THE

6:52:40THE 4.49 ISN'T FOR ME ISN'T THE

6:52:44ISSUE IT'S ANYTHING OVER AND

6:52:45ABOVE THAT.

6:52:46AND ANYTHING IF AN INDIVIDUAL

6:52:48IS TALKED OUT THERE AND YOU GET

6:52:49THE $1,000 THE MATCH THE NON

6:52:52BARGAINING SO THAT THAT'S WHY I

6:52:55EVEN BROUGHT IT UP UM AND YOU

6:52:59KNOW I KNOW IN THE PAST AGAIN

6:53:02THAT HAS HAPPENED WHERE SOME

6:53:04OTHER EMPLOYEES HAVE GOT.

6:53:06HIGHER INCREASES BECAUSE

6:53:07THERE'S MONEY LEFTOVER IN THE

6:53:08BUCKET I GUARANTEE YOU IF WE

6:53:12WOULD HAVE KEPT IT AT 7.25%.

6:53:14THERE WOULD.

6:53:15>> BE A LOT MORE MONEYS FLOWING

6:53:18UH TO CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS

6:53:20BECAUSE THAT BUCKET OF MONEY IS

6:53:21THERE AND UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST

6:53:24DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.

6:53:25WE APPROVE EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE

6:53:27UM, NOT.

6:53:28FROM THE FROM THE CITY MANAGER

6:53:30ALL THE WAY DOWN IS WHO WE

6:53:32SHOULD BE APPROVING, UH, WHAT

6:53:34THEIR RAISES ARE AND, UH, SO

6:53:35THAT'S WHY I MADE A MOTION.

6:53:37I THINK WE CAN GET IT RESOLVED

6:53:38HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND

6:53:39MAKE IT RETROACTIVE AND THEN

6:53:40WE'LL BE FINE.

6:53:42SEEING NO OTHER LIGHTS.

6:53:45UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

6:53:48SECOND.

6:53:49IS THERE ANYONE THAT NEEDS THE

6:53:50MOTION RE READ.

6:53:51YES.

6:53:51YEAH.

6:53:52>> WHAT DID THEY FINALLY BECOME

6:53:55?

6:53:56ALL RIGHT.

6:53:57>> ONE MOMENT.

6:54:00SO I HAVE THE MOTION IS TO

6:54:04UNTIL.

6:54:05RESOLVED NO INCREASE FOR NON

6:54:08BARGAINING EMPLOYEES ONCE

6:54:11RESOLVED RETROACTIVE TO THE

6:54:13FIRST FULL PAY PERIOD IN

6:54:15OCTOBER.

6:54:20AND DISCUSS.

6:54:22>> HOW.

6:54:22TO YOU YEAH NEXT WEEK.

6:54:25NEXT WEEK.

6:54:25AND HOW.

6:54:27SO UM I DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL

6:54:30LIGHTS ON COUNCILMEMBER

6:54:31CRADDOCK.

6:54:31THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM, JUST

6:54:33TO CONFIRM ONE MORE TIME THIS

6:54:36IS AGAINST LEGAL ADVICE.

6:54:39YES OKAY.

6:54:42YES.

6:54:43>> IT DOES NOT COMPLY.

6:54:44>> WITH WHAT THE.

6:54:46ORDINANCE SAYS.

6:54:47I COMPLETELY FOLLOW.

6:54:50>> AND TRACK AND.

6:54:50AGREE WITH THE MAYOR AND HIS

6:54:53INTENT, BUT WE'RE PICKING AND

6:54:55CHOOSING WHEN WE TAKE OUR LEGAL

6:54:56ADVICE AND FOR THAT REASON I

6:54:57WILL BE A NO THANK YOU.

6:54:59THANK YOU MA'AM.

6:55:00YEAH JUST ONE LAST THING I

6:55:01WANTED TO SAY.

6:55:02WAS THIS ISN'T FAVORABLE FOR

6:55:06THE CITY MANAGER OR CITY

6:55:07ATTORNEY AND THE CITY AUDITOR.

6:55:09YOU KNOW, BECAUSE.

6:55:10WHAT WE ARE DOING IS TYING OUR

6:55:12HANDS AND UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S

6:55:15SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE THAT

6:55:16THEY DON'T WANT.

6:55:17UM, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS

6:55:20IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO HAVE FAIR

6:55:21AND EQUALITY THROUGH THE

6:55:24ORGANIZATION AND THAT'S WHY I

6:55:25BROUGHT IT FORWARD.

6:55:28WHICH TO BE CLEAR, WE CAN STILL

6:55:29DO.

6:55:30MOVING FORWARD.

6:55:30YEAH, BUT BUT THE POINT IS WELL

6:55:33TAKEN FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

6:55:37I SEE NO OTHER LIGHT.

6:55:38WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

6:55:40MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL

6:55:41THE ROLL.

6:55:43COULD DO NO KILL RAIN.

6:55:46ALL RIGHT.

6:55:46>> LAST ROW I LEHMAN UH LONG.

6:55:53I THINK.

6:55:55I TUNNEL ALL UH, GUNTER.

6:56:00UH.

6:56:00>> SIX EYES, TWO NAYS, MOTION

6:56:03CARRIED.

6:56:09ALL RIGHT, WELL.

6:56:10BACK TO.

6:56:11>> THE MAYOR.

6:56:11THANK YOU.

6:56:12>> UH.

6:56:13>> MOVE TO ITEM 15.

6:56:15UH, REPORTS.

6:56:17UH, WHO DO WE HAVE ON HERE?

6:56:20COUNCIL MEMBER KILROY?

6:56:21UH, YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK.

6:56:22I HAVE ONE.

6:56:23THING I'D LIKE TO REQUEST.

6:56:24UH, I.

6:56:25WAS I'VE BEEN TALKING TO, UH,

6:56:27MR. ROGER MOORE AND MET WITH

6:56:29HIM.

6:56:30AND, UH.

6:56:31I'M SURE ROGER MORGAN AND.

6:56:33HE HE'S PROPOSING THAT, UH,

6:56:35HE'S LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FOR

6:56:38THE CITY TO BACK, UM.

6:56:40PUTTING.

6:56:40>> UH, A HOSPITAL IN AT THE

6:56:42VETERANS LOCATION AND HE HE'D

6:56:45UH IF IF I COULD GET THE

6:56:47SUPPORT OF THIS.

6:56:47COUNCIL UH.

6:56:49IN MOVING FORWARD TO PRODUCE

6:56:51YOUR RESOLUTION STATING THAT

6:56:52WE'LL BRING BACK THE RESOLUTION

6:56:54AND AT THE NEXT UH, A MEETING

6:56:57UH, PAST THE UH CAO.

6:57:00TO SUPPORT THE.

6:57:01TO SUPPORT THE.

6:57:03THE THE THOUGHT THAT WE THE

6:57:06CITY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF

6:57:09EXPANDING THE VETERANS UH

6:57:11SERVICE AREA TO ADD HOSPITAL.

6:57:13AS A.

6:57:15HOSPITAL BEDS TO IT UH AND WE

6:57:18WOULD WORK WITH OTHER

6:57:20LEGISLATORS IN OUR OUTSIDE

6:57:22ACTIVITIES TO DO THAT.

6:57:23YEAH, I'LL GIVE IT THAT.

6:57:25YEAH, YEAH.

6:57:27THANK YOU.

6:57:27THANK YOU.

6:57:28>> MAYOR.

6:57:29COUNCIL MEMBER LASTER.

6:57:31UH, NO REPORT.

6:57:33COUNCIL MEMBER LEHMAN YEAH.

6:57:36UH UM UH YOU'RE VERY.

6:57:44MICROPHONE MICROPHONE.

6:57:46TURN YOUR MIC ON, PLEASE.

6:57:48I'M SORRY.

6:57:50UH, ON SEPTEMBER 22ND THROUGH I

6:57:54ATTENDED THE RESILIENCY SUMMIT

6:57:56UH, ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ON

6:58:01THE 30TH I ATTENDED THE

6:58:05DISTRICT CAREER ADVISORY BOARD

6:58:09ON THE UH I'M DOING WELL ON THE

6:58:14THIRD.

6:58:15UH.

6:58:16>> OF OCTOBER MY TOWN HALL.

6:58:20AND THEN.

6:58:21UM, THE ACTUALLY ON OCTOBER 1ST

6:58:25UH, HAD A MEETING WITH PHANTOM

6:58:27CARES AND SAINT JUDE'S UH, TO

6:58:32FURTHER THAT SITUATION WITH THE

6:58:36SAINT JUDE DREAM HOME HERE IN

6:58:38THE CAPE.

6:58:39AND THEN ON THE SECOND I WENT

6:58:42TO THE EHM TARGET CONFERENCE UH

6:58:46,ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND

6:58:48SUICIDE PREVENTION.

6:58:49THANK YOU.

6:58:51COUNCIL MEMBER LONG.

6:58:53NO REPORT.

6:58:54COUNCIL MEMBER STANKY.

6:58:55NO REPORT.

6:58:56COUNCIL MEMBER DULL NO.

6:58:57I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ABOUT A

6:59:0015 MINUTE BREAK BECAUSE.

6:59:01COUNCIL THIS IS.

6:59:02AN EARLY.

6:59:03MEETING FROM THE SECOND COUNCIL

6:59:04I WAS ON BECAUSE WE WE STILL

6:59:06NEED TO GO ABOUT ANOTHER HOUR

6:59:08BEFORE WE WOULD GET OUT AND

6:59:08THAT WAS THE AVERAGE.

6:59:09SO CAN WE TAKE A BREAK COME

6:59:10BACK AT IT ALL RIGHT I WAS JUST

6:59:12KIDDING OKAY NO REPORT WILL BE

6:59:14.

6:59:14HERE WAITING.

6:59:15>> FOR YOU.

6:59:16>>.

6:59:16>> I'M SERIOUS ABOUT THAT.

6:59:17THE.

6:59:18UH I DON'T HAVE A REPORT.

6:59:20UH, MISTER CITY ATTORNEY.

6:59:22YOU COMPLETELY NOTHING.

6:59:23THANK YOU.

6:59:24I'M SORRY.

6:59:25DID I MISS YOU?

6:59:27YEAH.

6:59:27>> BECAUSE I DO HAVE SOMETHING

6:59:28TO SAY.

6:59:29YES.

6:59:29>> WELL GO AHEAD.

6:59:30I'M SORRY.

6:59:30THANK YOU.

6:59:31I WILL KEEP THAT HOUR FOR YOU.

6:59:33HOW ABOUT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER

6:59:34O'DONNELL?

6:59:34UH.

6:59:35>> SO, UH, YEAH, I HAVE A

6:59:37LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH

6:59:38WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING HERE WITH

6:59:39CITY STAFF.

6:59:40CITY STAFF DECIDED TO PUT A

6:59:41DUMP IN DISTRICT SEVEN JUST

6:59:44LIKE CITY STAFF DECIDED TO ADD

6:59:46ASSESSMENTS THAT WERE NOT

6:59:47ASSESSED, TRANSPORTATION FEES

6:59:49THAT THEN BECAME ASSESSED TO.

6:59:51HOMEOWNERS WEST OF BRANT STORE

6:59:52ROAD.

6:59:52AND THIS MUST STOP UNLESS THE

6:59:54COLLECTIVE BODY MAKES THE

6:59:55DECISION.

6:59:55THE ELECTED CITY COUNCIL MAKES

6:59:57THOSE DECISIONS.

6:59:58THROUGH A TRANSPARENT PUBLIC.

7:00:01PROCESS WITH FULL

7:00:01ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE RESIDENTS

7:00:03.

7:00:03CITY STAFF SHOULD NOT BE MAKING

7:00:05THESE DECISIONS THAT IMPOSE.

7:00:06FINANCIAL BURDENS TO OUR.

7:00:07RESIDENTS AND FUNDAMENTALLY

7:00:09CHANGE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

7:00:10THANK YOU.

7:00:12SORRY I MISSED YOU.

7:00:16MR. CITY ATTORNEY.

7:00:18NOTHING MAYOR.

7:00:19THANK YOU.

7:00:21NO REPORT.

7:00:23>> OKAY.

7:00:24ALL RIGHT.

7:00:26TIME AND PLACE OF, UH, FUTURE

7:00:27MEETINGS.

7:00:29WE HAVE, UH, A COMMITTEE OF THE

7:00:31WHOLE MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR

7:00:32WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 14TH, 2026

7:00:35BEGINNING AT 9:00 AM HERE IN

7:00:36COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

7:00:37>> MOTION TO ADJOURN.

7:00:37MOTION TO ADJOURN.

7:00:38SO, SMITH.

7:00:39UM.

7:00:40>> FAVOR SAY AYE.

7:00:41AYE.

7:00:42ANY OPPOSED?

7:00:43>> MEETING.

7:00:44ADJOURN.