2026-10-20 - Community & Public Safety Committee
Summary
Based on uploaded (human-made) captions, not auto-generated; minor errors are possible. Captions show no text during the 15-minute recess (1:33:39 to 1:49:50).
Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk):
| Topic | Minutes | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Body-Worn Camera Footage Release Procedures | 59 | 40% |
| Portland Street Response Advisory Committee Report | 50 | 34% |
| Portland Street Response Funding | 34 | 23% |
| Other business | 4 | 3% |
- Tuesday, October 20, 2026.
- The recording starts at 3:10 with a sound check; the chair called the meeting to order at 9:30 a.m. (6:06 on the recording) and adjourned it at 2:49:05, about 12:15 p.m. Councilor Novick chaired, with Councilor Smith, Councilor Kanal and Councilor Morillo answering the roll call; Councilor Zimmerman was called but no reply is captioned.
- No votes were taken on either agenda item (both were presentations and discussion).
- Both items were read into the record under the same document number, 2026-379.
Portland Street Response Advisory Committee Report
10:09-45:49, 58:22-1:12:22
- Kaia Sand (co-chair) and Beatrix Lee (member) of the Portland Street Response Advisory Committee presented its report: eight recommendations, drafted since January under the June 2025 council resolution that created the committee.
- Recommendations: (1) house Portland Street Response in a new bureau, suggested name "Portland Cares", alongside gun violence reduction and violence prevention programs; (2) codify it as a non-enforcement model; (3) expand call types, starting with welfare checks (police handle about 23,000 a year; an estimated 14,000, or 61%, could move), plus field mediation and possibly youth crises; (4) go 24/7 (currently 6 a.m. to midnight); (5) build out the training academy; (6) multilingual outreach; (7) recruitment, retention and staff wellness; (8) make the advisory committee permanent.
- Recommendations 1, 2 and 8 need City Code changes; draft code is in the report appendix and the committee urged council to bring an ordinance.
- They stressed tracking each Portland Street Response call by what it would have been had police responded, so diversion rates can be reported and compared nationally.
- Since October 1 the single Portland Street Response call type has been split into six; a dedicated Portland Street Response dispatcher starts at the 911 center on December 1 (Stephanie Howard).
- Councilor Kanal noted the committee adopted its recommendations unanimously last week, said all eight have Kanal's support, and pressed on call types, community engagement and how lived-experience members are appointed (address instability for people experiencing homelessness).
- Councilor Novick asked about pay compared with other jurisdictions (not studied) and whether dual call coding would be costly for the 911 center; Howard agreed to look into both.
Portland Street Response Funding
45:54-58:21, 1:12:25-1:33:31
- Councilor Smith asked for a firm number. Howard gave about $36,000 a year to reclassify her position to a director, about $30,000 to bring one program lead to the same level, and funding for a half-time staffer to support the committee, about $144,000 a year in total.
- Councilor Smith objected that new ongoing costs come with a deficit she put at $170 million and an $8.6 billion budget, asked what would be cut, and asked the program to come back to her office within a month with ongoing programs it would cut. She also said homelessness and mental health services belong with Multnomah County, called youth crisis response outside the city's core business, and said she would not add one-time money to an expansion.
- Howard said any funding trade-offs would come through an executive-side prioritization and that this will need added funding; the program's budget became ongoing last year; and an outside evaluation (request for proposals under review) is coming. About 14,000 calls a year would otherwise go to police.
- Councilor Kanal disputed the deficit figure and described about $100 million of one-year programs the mayor wants to keep, said the bulk sits in Portland Solutions, and argued Portland Street Response is a public safety responder, not a health care or homelessness program. Kanal called the efforts to move it to the county or a nonprofit attempts to diminish it. Councilor Morillo said it serves housed and unhoused people, must sit within 911 so it falls to the city, and that $144,000 is nominal.
- Medicaid: Howard said 24/7 operation is required for CAHOOTS Act Medicaid funding and the city is pursuing that and lower-rate Medicaid access, depending on federal changes.
- Follow-ups: Councilor Smith asked Howard for the full cost of 24-hour expansion; Howard will send the existing expansion plan. Councilor Novick wants to talk with Dayton and Minneapolis staff.
Body-Worn Camera Footage Release Procedures
1:50:06-2:48:34
- Police Chief Bob Day and communications manager Mike Benner reviewed the body-worn camera program (court-ordered in 2022, bureau-wide since summer 2024) and the standard operating procedure for releasing footage after critical incidents: a narrated summary video, then raw footage, targeted within 14 days. About ten releases so far, an eleventh in progress.
- The procedure dates from September 2025 and was revised October 5, 2026 at the city administrator's request: release by 6 p.m. on day 14 and notice to council eight hours before release.
- PCCEP staff and members (Dori Grabinski, Kip Silverman, and the chair of its Policy and Reform Committee) traced the committee's body camera work since 2019, flagged officer pre-review of footage as the main gap versus its recommendations, and raised concerns about narration, editing choices and private community screenings before the 2025 release.
- Councilor Kanal said the procedure was first shared with Kanal's office on October 16, 2026 although dated September 2025; Chief Day apologized for the oversight and conceded there was no release policy when the June 2025 death occurred. Kanal asked about written council notification (not in the procedure), releasing unedited footage with no narration (Kanal does not think an edited version should exist), how many camera angles are included, time-aligned versus sequential display, redaction style, and who outside the bureau checks that scripts are neutral.
- Chief Day and Benner defended narrated summaries as national best practice and said all relevant cameras go into the raw release and families see the video first. Day said he would note the request to release all raw angles and take up council notification in writing.
- Councilor Novick asked about having PCCEP review narratives; historically that has not happened and Silverman saw room for it. Councilor Kanal asked PCCEP to consider whether a narrated version should exist at all and noted the procedure can be changed easily.
Other business
- Councilor Novick opened with remarks on the Bend shooting, Measure 114 and the state red flag law, and asked for 20 seconds of silence.
- Minutes for September 1 through 15, 2026 were approved by unanimous consent.
- The next meeting is November 17; Councilor Novick will be at the League of Cities meeting in Nashville, so Councilor Morillo will run it.
Agenda
Portland Street Response Advisory Committee Report (Portland Street Response committee report); Body-Worn Camera Footage Release Procedures (procedures for release of body-worn camera footage).
Sources
- Video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GdJHDMGINsU
- Agenda: https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/community-and-public-safety-committee/2026/10/20
Video
Transcript
These are uploaded (human-made) English captions; minor errors are possible.
Transcript
03:10>> COUNCILOR NOVICK, THIS IS
03:11COUNCILOR SMITH. I'M ON LINE.
03:33CAN YOU HEAR ME? COUNCILOR.
03:34NOVICK.
05:28COUNCILOR NOVICK. I'M
05:29ONLINE. THIS IS COUNCILOR SMITH.
05:32>> I LIKE THE HANDWRITTEN ON
05:34THIS ONE.
05:38>> I'M ONLINE.
06:06>> GOOD MORNING. I CALL THIS
06:08MEETING OF THE. TUESDAY,
06:09OCTOBER 20TH, 2026, 9:30 A.M.
06:12MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY AND
06:13PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. TO
06:14ORDER THE CLERK, PLEASE CALL
06:17THE ROLL.
06:19>> GOOD MORNING. ZIMMERMAN.
06:22>> SMITH HERE.
06:26>> KANAL.
06:26>> HERE.
06:28>> MORILLO HERE.
06:31>> NOVICK HERE. CAN WE PLEASE
06:34HEAR THIS STATEMENT OF CONDUCT?
06:36>> WELCOME TO THE MEETING OF
06:37COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY
06:39COMMITTEE. TO TESTIFY BEFORE
06:40THIS COMMITTEE IN PERSON OR
06:41VIRTUALLY. YOU MUST SIGN UP IN
06:43ADVANCE ON THE COMMITTEE AGENDA
06:52AT
06:52WWW.PORTLAND.GOV/COUNCIL/AGENDAE
06:53OR BY CALLING 311. INFORMATION
06:55ON ENGAGING WITH THE COMMITTEE
06:56CAN BE FOUND AT THIS LINK.
06:58REGISTRATION FOR VIRTUAL
06:59TESTIMONY CLOSES ONE HOUR PRIOR
07:00TO THE MEETING IN PERSON.
07:02TESTIFIERS MUST SIGN UP BEFORE
07:03THE AGENDA ITEM IS HEARD FOR
07:05PUBLIC TESTIMONY. DURING
07:06TODAY'S MEETING, INDIVIDUALS
07:07MAY TESTIFY FOR 90S UNLESS THE
07:09CHAIR STATES OTHERWISE, YOUR
07:11MICROPHONE WILL BE MUTED. WHEN
07:12YOUR TIME IS OVER. THE CHAIR
07:13PRESERVES ORDER DISRUPTIVE
07:15CONDUCT SUCH AS SHOUTING,
07:16REFUSING TO CONCLUDE YOUR
07:17TESTIMONY OR YOUR TIME IS UP,
07:19OR INTERRUPTING OTHERS
07:20TESTIMONY OR COMMITTEE
07:22DELIBERATIONS WILL NOT BE
07:23ALLOWED. IF YOU CAUSE A
07:24DISRUPTION, A WARNING WILL BE
07:26GIVEN. FURTHER DISRUPTION WILL
07:27RESULT IN EJECTION FROM THE
07:28MEETING. ANYONE WHO FAILS TO
07:29LEAVE ONCE EJECTED IS SUBJECT
07:31TO ARREST FOR TRESPASS.
07:33ADDITIONALLY, THE COMMITTEE MAY
07:34TAKE A SHORT RECESS AND
07:36RECONVENE VIRTUALLY. YOUR
07:37TESTIMONY SHOULD ADDRESS THE
07:38MATTER BEING CONSIDERED WHEN
07:39TESTIFYING. STATE YOUR NAME FOR
07:41THE RECORD. IF YOU ARE A
07:42LOBBYIST, IDENTIFY THE
07:43ORGANIZATION YOU REPRESENT.
07:44VIRTUAL TESTIFIERS SHOULD
07:45UNMUTE THEMSELVES WHEN THE
07:47CLERK CALLS YOUR NAME. THANK
07:48YOU.
07:51>> THANK YOU. BEFORE WE BEGIN,
07:52I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE.
07:54ALL OF OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO THE
07:56VICTIMS FAMILIES AND EVERYBODY
07:59IN THE COMMUNITY OF BEND. AND
08:02THIS IS AT LEAST THE SECOND
08:04MULTIPLE MURDER BY GUN IN
08:06OREGON IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS.
08:08TWO MONTHS AGO, FIVE PEOPLE
08:09WERE SHOT AND KILLED IN FOREST
08:11GROVE, INCLUDING THREE VISITING
08:13PORTLANDERS. AND I KNOW THAT
08:17ALL OF US HERE BELIEVE IN
08:19MEASURES TO REDUCE THE NUMBER
08:21OF TRAGEDIES THAT WE PROBABLY
08:23ALL ARE HOPING THAT MEASURE 114
08:25IS UPHELD IN COURT. I AM
08:30PLEASED THAT THE PORTLAND
08:31POLICE HAVE INCREASED THEIR USE
08:32OF THE RED FLAG LAW. I HAVE
08:34THIS OBSESSION WITH SMART GUNS,
08:36BUT ALTHOUGH REDUCING THE
08:39NUMBER OF GUN TRAGEDIES IS
08:41IMPORTANT, REMEMBER ALBERT
08:43CAMUS SAID THAT WE MAY NOT BE
08:45ABLE TO MAKE THIS INTO A WORLD
08:47WHERE CHILDREN ARE NOT TORTURED,
08:48BUT WE CAN REDUCE THE NUMBER OF
08:50TORTURED CHILDREN. I WISH THAT
08:51THIS WAS A COUNTRY WHERE IT WAS
08:54SIMPLY A LOT HARDER TO GET A
08:55GUN, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR
08:58ABOUT 20S OF SILENCE.
09:44THANK YOU.
09:45OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS
09:46THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMUNITY
09:47AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
09:48MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER
09:501ST, 2026 THROUGH SEPTEMBER
09:5215TH, 2026. BUT THIS IS
09:55APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
09:58IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THE
10:00MINUTES ARE APPROVED. COULD THE
10:05CLERK PLEASE READ THE FIRST
10:06ITEM?
10:09>> THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER TWO.
10:10DOCUMENT NUMBER 2026-379.
10:13PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE
10:15COMMITTEE REPORT. PRESENTATION.
10:21>> COMMITTEE. COME ON DOWN.
10:53YOU
10:53MAY BEGIN.
10:55>> GOOD MORNING. I'M KAIA SAND
10:58AND I AM THE CO-CHAIR OF THE
11:01PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE
11:02ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND,
11:03BEATRIX, DO YOU WANT TO
11:04INTRODUCE YOURSELF?
11:05>> GOOD MORNING COUNCILORS. I'M
11:07BEATRIX LEE, PSR ADVISORY
11:10COMMITTEE MEMBER.
11:13>> AND BEATRIX IS GOING TO PUT
11:14THE SLIDES UP.
11:23>> DO YOU ALL SEE THAT? OKAY.
11:26>> YES.
11:27>> OKAY, GREAT.
11:30>> WELL, THANK YOU TO THE
11:32MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND
11:34PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
11:37SUBCOMMITTEE IN PARTICULAR,
11:41CHAIR NOVICK AND VICE CHAIR
11:44MORILLO, AS WELL AS COUNCILORS
11:46KANAL SMITH AND ZIMMERMAN. WE
11:50HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OUR
11:53RECOMMENDATIONS AS A COMMITTEE
11:54SINCE JANUARY, SO WE'RE REALLY
11:56PLEASED TO TO SUBMIT TO YOU
12:00THIS REPORT OF EIGHT
12:02RECOMMENDATIONS, AND OUR
12:03COMMITTEE HAS BEEN COMPOSED OF
12:07A NUMBER OF AREAS OF EXPERTISE,
12:09PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE OF
12:12HOMELESSNESS AND MENTAL ILLNESS,
12:16SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, PEOPLE
12:17WITH EXPERTISE IN MEDICAL
12:20EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE, IN
12:23COMMUNITY HEALTH, PEER SUPPORT,
12:25POLICY ADVOCACY, CRISIS PROGRAM
12:29EVALUATION, NATIONAL KNOWLEDGE
12:31OF THESE PROGRAMS AND THEIR
12:34HISTORY, ETC. AND WE'VE
12:37APPROACHED ALL OF THIS WORK
12:38REALLY RECOGNIZING THAT THIS
12:40HAS BEEN A PROGRAM, PORTLAND
12:42STREET RESPONSE, THAT PEOPLE IN
12:44THE CITY OF PORTLAND HAVE BUILT.
12:47THERE'S A REAL MANDATE FOR THIS
12:49PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE FACT
12:51THAT COUNCIL ESTABLISHED THE
12:54RESOLUTION IN JUNE OF 2025 TO
12:58CREATE THIS COMMITTEE, AND THEN
13:01IN DECEMBER OF 2026 OR 2025, TO
13:05TO CREATE THE TWO APPOINT THE
13:09MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. SO I
13:11THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL
13:12JUST EMPHASIZE IS THAT AS WE
13:14LOOK AT SOME STRUCTURAL ISSUES,
13:18WE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SORT OF
13:20INSIDE LOOKING AT THE
13:22BUREAUCRACY, WE ARE ALWAYS
13:23LOOKING AT THIS AS COMMUNITY
13:25MEMBERS WHO REALLY BELIEVE THAT
13:27PUBLIC SAFETY IS SOMETHING THAT
13:29SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT AND
13:31COMPREHENSIBLE TO RESIDENTS OF
13:32THIS CITY. AND SO THAT GUIDES.
13:35THE GUIDES, OUR APPROACHES. SO
13:37DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND OH,
13:39THIS IS LET ME SORRY, WE COULD
13:41JUST GO BACK FOR A SECOND. YOU
13:43CAN SEE THE MEMBERS OF THE
13:44COMMITTEE. AND I'LL JUST
13:46REITERATE HERE WHAT WAS IN THE
13:48RESOLUTION THAT WE WERE
13:49APPOINTED TO FORMALLY ADVISE
13:51CITY COUNCIL ON ISSUES RELATED
13:53TO PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE AND
13:55ADVISE ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO
13:57CITY CODE RELATED TO PORTLAND
13:59STREET RESPONSE. SO THE ACTUAL
14:01DRAFT OF THAT CODE IS IN THE
14:03APPENDIX OF THE REPORT THAT WE
14:05SUBMITTED TODAY. SO TODAY WE'LL
14:09GO OVER OUR JUST AS THE
14:12BACKGROUND OF OUR COMMITTEE AND
14:13THEN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND
14:16THEN TAKE QUESTIONS FOR YOU
14:17FROM YOU. AND THERE'S WHEN WE
14:21WERE FIRST APPOINTED AS NOT OUR
14:23GROUP IN ENTIRETY, BUT IT'S
14:24SOME OF US. AND THEN WE ALSO
14:29WANTED TO INDICATE A NUMBER OF
14:31DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT HAVE
14:33TESTIFIED, GIVEN FEEDBACK. SO
14:35IT'S BEEN A REALLY EXTENSIVE
14:37PROCESS. AND IN FACT, ALL THE
14:40OFFICES OF OF THE COUNCILORS ON
14:42THIS SUBCOMMITTEE GAVE US
14:44FEEDBACK, WHICH WE ARE GRATEFUL
14:46FOR. WE ALSO DUG INTO A LOT OF
14:52REPORTS, A LOT OF RESEARCH IN
14:54THIS AREA. AND MOST OF THIS
14:57RESEARCH YOU CAN FIND THROUGH
14:58OUR REPORT. IF YOU TOO, WANT TO
15:00DIG IN DEEPLY. AND WE WANTED TO
15:03JUST POINT OUT THAT EVEN THOUGH
15:05THIS IS A NEW MOVEMENT, THERE
15:08ARE A NUMBER OF REALLY
15:10EXTENSIVE EFFORTS AROUND THE
15:12NATION IN ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS
15:14NOW TO SUPPORT THIS WORK,
15:16INCLUDING AT GEORGETOWN LAW,
15:18UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, NYU, AND
15:21HARVARD. AND HARVARD IN
15:22PARTICULAR, HAS BEEN SUPPORTING
15:24PORTLAND'S PROGRAM. SO WE
15:27WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, AS
15:28WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAYS IN
15:30WHICH WE WANT THIS WORK TO BE
15:31LEGIBLE TO THE LARGER NATION,
15:33WE'RE REALLY AWARE OF THE FACT
15:35THAT IT'S IMPORTANT. PORTLAND.
15:37IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PORTLAND TO
15:40TO TAKE PART IN THIS WORK. AND
15:46IN 2020, WELL, 2019, WHEN CITY
15:48COUNCIL FIRST VOTED PORTLAND
15:50STREET RESPONSE IN PORTLAND,
15:53STREET RESPONSE WAS FOLLOWING
15:55CAHOOTS, WHICH WAS THEN IN
15:57EUGENE. NOW IT'S JUST IN
15:58SPRINGFIELD. AND THAT WAS
15:59ESTABLISHED IN 1989. BUT OTHER
16:01THAN THAT, THERE WAS DENVER
16:03STAR AND THERE WAS OLYMPIA CREW.
16:06AND AND THAT WAS IT. SO NOW
16:09LOOK AT THIS MAP. THIS IS QUITE
16:11EXTRAORDINARY. THERE'S OVER 120
16:13MOBILE CRISIS PROGRAMS ACROSS
16:15THE UNITED STATES. AND I WANT
16:17TO MAKE SURE THAT I EXPLAIN
16:19THAT THERE ARE MANY, MANY MORE
16:22MOBILE PROGRAMS FOR MENTAL
16:24HEALTH. BUT THE WAY THAT WE
16:25DEFINE IT FOR THIS REPORT AND
16:29FOR THE CITY IS ONES THAT ARE
16:31DISPATCHED BY 911. AND THAT'S
16:33WHERE CAHOOTS WAS REALLY THE
16:34OUTLIER. THERE WERE OTHER
16:36PROGRAMS BESIDES CAHOOTS DURING
16:37THAT TIME. SO EVEN THOUGH WE
16:40WERE SORT OF ONE OF THE FIRST,
16:42WE'RE DEFINITELY NOW PART OF A
16:44CROWDED FIELD WHERE THERE'S A
16:46LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO SHARE.
16:50AND SO WE HAVE EIGHT
16:53RECOMMENDATIONS TO DESIGNATE
16:55PSR WITHIN A DISTINCT BUREAU,
16:59TO CODIFY IT AS A
17:00NON-ENFORCEMENT MODEL, TO
17:02SUPPORT EXPANSION AND
17:04ORGANIZATION OF CALL TYPES, TO
17:06EXPAND IT 24 OVER SEVEN, TO
17:09DEVELOP, TO CONTINUE TO TO
17:11CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE
17:12TRAINING ACADEMY BUDGET FOR
17:14RECRUITMENT, RETENTION,
17:15WELLNESS. A PSR STAFF EXPAND
17:18OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATIONS FOR
17:19COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND TO
17:22CODIFY THIS COMMITTEE, WHICH
17:23OTHERWISE WOULD EXPIRE WITH
17:26THIS REPORT. AND THEN IN THE
17:29APPENDIX, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE,
17:30ARE OUR SUGGESTED CODE CHANGES.
17:34SO, NUMBER ONE, DESIGNATE
17:36PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE WITHIN
17:38A DISTINCT BUREAU. AND THIS IS
17:42ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS
17:43PART OF A CODE CHANGE. THIS IS
17:45CODE. THE CODE CHANGE THE CODE
17:48CITY CODE SHOULD BE CHANGED SO
17:49THAT PSR IS HOUSED IN A NEW
17:51BUREAU ALONG WITH GUN VIOLENCE
17:53REDUCTION STRATEGY AND THE
17:54OFFICE OF VIOLENCE PREVENTION,
17:57CREATING A CO-EQUAL BRANCH OF
17:58THE FIRST RESPONSE SYSTEM AND
18:00LED BY A DIRECTOR OR EQUIVALENT
18:03POSITION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS
18:05NAMING THE BUREAU. PORTLAND
18:07CARES. AND YOU CAN SEE THERE
18:12THE ACRONYM CRISIS ENGAGEMENT
18:15ASSISTANCE RESPONSE, ENGAGEMENT
18:17STRATEGY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS
18:21NATIONWIDE IS THAT THIS
18:22MOVEMENT IS OFTEN DESCRIBED AS
18:24COMMUNITY SAFETY. THE OTHER
18:26MOST COMMON WAY TO DESCRIBE IT
18:29IS USING VARIOUS ACRONYMS, OR
18:30THE WORD ITSELF CARES. AND WE
18:33THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO
18:35HAVE THIS KIND OF PUBLIC SAFETY,
18:38COMMUNITY SAFETY LEGIBLE ACROSS
18:41THE NATION. IN OTHER WORDS,
18:43PEOPLE CAN MOVE FROM CITY TO
18:44CITY AND START TO RECOGNIZE
18:46THAT THIS IS A NEW FORM OF AND
18:49WIDESPREAD FORM OF, OF
18:52COMMUNITY SAFETY. SO THE
18:54PROGRAMS THAT WE RECOMMEND
18:56GOING INTO THIS NEW BUREAU ARE
19:00REALLY COMMON PROGRAMS ACROSS
19:02THE NATION TO BE GROUPED
19:04TOGETHER. AND THEY'RE ALREADY
19:07GROUPED TOGETHER. SO WE JUST
19:09WANTED TO SHOW THAT WITHIN THE
19:11CURRENT ORGANIZATION CHART, WE
19:14ARE SIMPLY RECOMMENDING THAT
19:17COMMUNITY SAFETY BE TURNED INTO
19:19A BUREAU AND RECOMMENDING THE
19:21NAME PORTLAND CARES. OUR
19:23COMMITTEE HAD SOME FUN AS WE
19:26THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, AND REALLY
19:27LOOKED AT THE KIND OF ECHOING
19:29AS A CO-EQUAL BRANCH, WHICH
19:31CITY COUNCIL RESOLVED TO CREATE
19:36IN JUNE 2025, THAT IN PORTLAND,
19:37TO HAVE A CO-EQUAL BRANCH IS TO
19:39CREATE A BUREAU. AND SO
19:42PORTLAND FIRE AND RESCUE,
19:44PORTLAND POLICE AND PORTLAND
19:46CARES BEING CO-EQUAL. THAT SAID,
19:49THE OTHER BUREAUS UNDER THE
19:51PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE AREA, THE
19:54EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND
19:55EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS ARE
19:56ALSO BUREAUS. SO RIGHT NOW,
19:59COMMUNITY SAFETY HAS BEEN KIND
20:01OF A GROUP TOGETHER, BUNCH OF
20:05PROGRAMS UNDER A DIVISION
20:06CALLED COMMUNITY SAFETY. WE
20:08WANT THAT TO BE STRONGER AND TO
20:11LAST. THIS IS A WAY OF, I THINK,
20:14ALSO BEING COMPREHENSIBLE AND,
20:16AND SHOWING AND, AND CREATING
20:20TRUST IN OUR CITY THAT THIS IS
20:22SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY
20:25CONSIDERS A KEY PART OF PUBLIC
20:27SAFETY, THAT THESE DIFFERENT
20:29BRANCHES CAN WORK TOGETHER AND
20:31THAT IT'S GOING TO LAST, THAT
20:33IT'S NOT GOING TO DISAPPEAR.
20:34IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF
20:36THIS WORK. SO THIS THIS IDEA OF
20:43THE CO-EQUAL BRANCH IS NOT NEW.
20:46AND ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO,
20:48CREATED THE COMMUNITY SAFETY
20:49DEPARTMENT TO BE CO-EQUAL WITH
20:51ITS POLICE AND FIRE. THEY
20:53ACTUALLY STARTED THAT IN 2020.
20:57JUNE. AS YOU'LL NOTE, MOST OF
20:59THESE PROGRAMS STARTED 2020 AND
21:02LATER, AND THEY DECIDED THAT
21:05THEY DID NOT WANT TO START WITH
21:06A PILOT. SO IN OTHER WORDS,
21:08THEY CREATED A STRUCTURE BEFORE
21:10THEY STARTED TO BUILD OUT THE
21:12PROGRAMS. SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A
21:14CO-EQUAL BRANCH, AND IT'S QUITE
21:17EXTENSIVE AT THIS POINT. THEY
21:19HAVE BUILT A TRAUMA CENTER.
21:22THEY HAVE BUILT, THEY HAVE
21:26INCLUDED IN IT THEIR VIOLENCE
21:28PREVENTION PROGRAMS AS WE'RE
21:30RECOMMENDING THEIR SUBSTANCE
21:31USE SUPPORT FOR OVERDOSE
21:35SURVIVORS AND PEOPLE WHO USE
21:37DRUGS. THEY HAVE HOSPITAL BASED
21:39SUPPORT FOR VICTIMS OF VIOLENCE,
21:41CRIME, AND THEY HAVE SCHOOL AND
21:43YOUTH FOCUSED PROGRAMS, WHICH A
21:44NUMBER OF THE CITIES ALSO OFFER.
21:48DURHAM, NORTH CAROLINA, WAS THE
21:49NEXT ONE TO CREATE A CO-EQUAL
21:53BRANCH. YOU KNOW, I WASN'T
21:55AWARE UNTIL DOING THIS RESEARCH
21:57HOW UNUSUAL PORTLAND IS TO HAVE
21:59A BUREAU SYSTEM. AND SO MOST OF
22:02THEM ARE CALLED DEPARTMENTS OR
22:04DIVISIONS. AND SO NORTH
22:07CAROLINA, THEIR FIRST RESPONSE
22:09THAT'S EQUAL TO PORTLAND STREET
22:11RESPONSE IS CALLED HEART. AND
22:13THEN THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF
22:14OTHER RELATED PROGRAMS, THE
22:16OFFICE OF SURVIVAL, SURVIVOR
22:18CARE, THE CARE NAVIGATION THAT
22:21FOLLOWS UP WITH PEOPLE. THAT'S
22:23REALLY SIMILAR TO WHAT PORTLAND
22:25STREET RESPONSE IS. AFTERCARE
22:27PROGRAM IS THEY HAVE PROGRAMS
22:30FOR PEOPLE RELEASED FROM
22:32INCARCERATION. THEY HAVE A
22:33FAMILIAR NEIGHBORS PROGRAM FOR
22:35PEOPLE THAT ARE FREQUENT 911
22:37CALLERS, WHICH IS SOMETHING
22:38THAT I KNOW PORTLAND HAS BEEN
22:40DIGGING INTO. SO THOSE ARE
22:41REALLY EXTENSIVE PROGRAMS. AND
22:44I'LL SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS
22:46THAT WE'VE REALLY LOOKED AT AND
22:48AS A KIND OF LOGIC, THAT THIS
22:50IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD
22:51BE THROWING EVERY PROGRAM INTO,
22:54IS THAT THE FIRST RESPONSE
22:55PROGRAM, IN THIS CASE, PORTLAND
22:56STREET RESPONSE, IS THE CENTER
22:58OF THE BUREAU, AND THEN THE
23:00PROGRAMS ARE UPSTREAM AND
23:03DOWNSTREAM FROM THAT FIRST
23:04RESPONSE. THEY'RE TRYING TO
23:05PREVENT THE NEED FOR THE FIRST
23:07RESPONSE, OR THEY'RE FOLLOWING
23:08UP FROM THE FIRST RESPONSE. AND
23:10TO TO MAKE AN ANALOGY IN OUR
23:12CITY, THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE
23:14FIRE MARSHAL IN PORTLAND FIRE
23:16AND RESCUE THAT'S PREVENTING
23:18THE FIRES. OR IT'S LIKE THE
23:20DETECTIVE IN THE POLICE BUREAU
23:22THAT'S FOLLOWING UP ON THE
23:23FIRST RESPONSE. SO THAT'S HOW
23:25THESE PROGRAMS ARE ORGANIZED.
23:30THERE'S ANOTHER THERE'S SOME
23:31OTHERS THAT HAVE SET UP
23:32CO-EQUAL BRANCHES. STRUCTURALLY,
23:34SEATTLE HAS CARE, WHICH IS
23:37PRIMARILY AT THIS POINT, IT'S
23:38911 SYSTEM, WHICH IS
23:40INTERESTINGLY UNDER IT, AS WELL
23:42AS ITS CRISIS RESPONDERS.
23:45NORTHAMPTON, HAMPDEN,
23:46MASSACHUSETTS HAS A DIVISION OF
23:48COMMUNITY CARE, AND THEN SOME,
23:50LIKE NEW YORK CITY, THAT IN A
23:52SENSE, LIKE ALBUQUERQUE, ASPIRE
23:54TO THAT CO-EQUAL STRUCTURE FROM
23:56THE GET GO. BUT THEY HAVEN'T
23:58YET BUILT IT OUT. A COUPLE
24:00OTHERS WORTH JUST POINTING OUT
24:02ARE TORONTO, ONTARIO, WHICH HAS
24:05A LOT OF PROGRAMS UNDER ITS
24:07COMMUNITY SAFETY AND WELL-BEING,
24:08INCLUDING ITS CITYWIDE CRISIS
24:11911 DISPATCH CRISIS RESPONSE.
24:13ONE THING WORTH POINTING OUT
24:14WITH TORONTO IS THEY HAVE A
24:16FIRST NATIONS RESPONSE TEAM
24:19THAT'S FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. SO
24:21THEY HAVE REALLY PRIORITIZED
24:24POPULATION ONE POPULATION THAT
24:26IS REALLY DISPROPORTIONATELY
24:27IMPACTED. AND THEN ROCHESTER,
24:29NEW YORK, I THINK, IS ANOTHER
24:30ONE THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO
24:31POINT OUT. CRISIS INTERVENTION
24:34SERVICES IS THE LARGER
24:36DEPARTMENT, AND THE CRISIS
24:38RESPONSE FITS UNDER THAT. THEY
24:40ALSO REALLY FOCUS ON HOMICIDE
24:43RESPONSE. SO THEY THEY SHOW UP
24:45FOR FAMILIES OF HOMICIDE. AND
24:48ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THEIR
24:50CRISIS TEAM FOCUSES ON CARE,
24:52THEY'RE ABLE TO ATTEND TO THE
24:54FAMILY WHILE THE POLICE DO THE
24:57INVESTIGATION, AND THEN THEY
24:58CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP WITH
24:59THOSE FAMILIES. SO YOU CAN SEE
25:01IN DIFFERENT CITIES, I'LL
25:02MENTION DAYTON LATER. THERE'S,
25:03YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT STRENGTHS
25:04THAT CITIES HAVE WHERE THEY
25:06BRING TO THESE CO-EQUAL
25:07BRANCHES, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE
25:08LOT TO SHARE AND LEARN AS WE
25:10BUILD OUT THIS. AND SO NUMBER
25:14TWO IS TO CODIFY PORTLAND
25:15STREET RESPONSE AS A
25:18NON-ENFORCEMENT MODEL. AND THIS
25:21IS A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF
25:24PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE. AND
25:25OF ALL OF THESE MODELS, THESE
25:26ARE ALL NON-ENFORCEMENT MODELS
25:29BECAUSE THEY NEED TO HAVE A
25:30CLEAR MISSION. AND, AND THE
25:34PEOPLE FOR WHOM THEY ARE
25:36SERVING NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT
25:38MISSION AND, AND TO MAKE SURE
25:40THAT IT DOESN'T GET MURKY. I
25:42WILL SAY THIS IS IN A LOT OF
25:45WAYS, TRYING TO REMEDY A DESIGN
25:48PROBLEM IN THE SENSE THAT WE
25:50HAVE A NINE ONE, ONE SYSTEM
25:51THAT, SINCE IT WAS CREATED IN
25:541968, HAS SHUNTED PROGRAMS OR
25:57SHUNTED ISSUES THAT COME TO 911
25:59TO THE POLICE, WHERE THEY JUST
26:03DON'T HAVE THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE
26:05CORRECT RESPONDER. THIS HAS
26:07BEEN A REAL. THIS HAS BEEN A
26:09HUGE REASON WHY THE POLICE HAVE
26:11GROWN AND AND REALLY HAD TO
26:15DEAL WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT
26:17AREN'T PART OF THEIR MISSION.
26:18SO IT'S A CORRECTIVE TO THAT.
26:21SO, YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN A
26:22NUMBER OF CORRECTIVES ALONG THE
26:24WAY AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
26:25THEM HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE
26:27POLICE, LIKE CRISIS
26:27INTERVENTION TRAINING IN 1983.
26:30AND THEN IN THE 1990S, THE
26:33CO-RESPONSE MODEL. BUT THOSE
26:34ARE ALL POLICE BASED RESPONSES.
26:38THIS IS ABOUT CREATING A
26:40DIFFERENT KIND OF RESPONSE. AND
26:43I WANT TO EMPHASIZE HOW
26:45IMPORTANT THAT IS, BECAUSE
26:46ACTUALLY ITS EFFICACY IS BASED
26:49IN IT BEING A NON-ENFORCEMENT
26:52MODEL. PEOPLE HAVE CHOICE. THEY,
26:54THE RESPONDERS ARE ABLE TO
26:56APPROACH PEOPLE WITH CALM. THEY
27:00DON'T OVERWHELM PEOPLE. SO IT'S
27:02KIND OF IN SOME WAYS, IT'S LIKE
27:04THE INVERSE RIGHT OF, OF A KIND
27:06OF DOMINATION STYLE OF FIRST
27:09RESPONSE. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S
27:10VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THIS AS
27:14NON-ENFORCEMENT. AND SO I'M NOT
27:19GOING TO GO INTO THIS, BUT THIS
27:21IS FROM A GEORGETOWN REPORT.
27:22AND I JUST THOUGHT IT'D BE
27:23INTERESTING JUST TO POINT OUT.
27:24AND IT'S REFERENCED IN OUR IN
27:27OUR REPORT. BUT ESSENTIALLY,
27:29WHEN I WAS MENTIONING BEFORE,
27:31MOBILE CRISIS ITSELF HAS BEEN
27:34AROUND LONGER, BUT THIS IT'S
27:36CALLED VARIOUS THINGS. PORTLAND
27:38STREET RESPONSE, NATIONALLY,
27:40ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE, COMMUNITY
27:42RESPONSE, COMMUNITY FIRST
27:44RESPONSE, ON AND ON, COMMUNITY
27:45CRISIS RESPONSE. BUT THAT MODEL
27:49IS DIFFERENT THAN THE MOBILE
27:50CRISIS BECAUSE IT IS DISPATCHED
27:52FROM 911 AND IT TAKES IT TENDS
27:55TO TAKE A LARGER VARIETY OF
27:57CALLS THAT WE'LL GET INTO THAN
27:59THE MORE TRADITIONAL MOBILE
28:00CRISIS. THAT'S A BEHAVIORAL
28:02HEALTH STRUCTURE. THE
28:05CO-RESPONSE IS A REALLY
28:06DIFFERENT MODEL, SO I'M JUST
28:08EMPHASIZING THAT AGAIN,
28:09GENERALLY DISPATCHED BY 911,
28:12BUT IT IS A POLICE DRIVEN MODEL.
28:16>> A BIT OF A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
28:19THE REPORT SHOULD BE VIEWABLE
28:21THROUGH THE REPORT FOR ANYONE
28:23IN THIS MEETING.
28:26>> AND OKAY, THIS THIRD
28:28RECOMMENDATION IS A IT'S A
28:30LITTLE BIT OF A NESTING DOLL
28:32THAT THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT
28:35DIFFERENT PIECES TO IT, BUT
28:36SUPPORT EXPANSION AND
28:39ORGANIZATION OF CALL TYPES. SO
28:41THE FIRST PART OF THIS IS
28:44TAKING THAT REPORT THAT THIS
28:47SUBCOMMITTEE RECEIVED IN JUNE,
28:49THAT CAME FROM THE SECOND STAGE
28:51OF THE CALL REALLOCATION STUDY,
28:53AND THIS IS TO EXPAND WELFARE
28:57CHECKS. AND THAT REPORT
29:01RECOMMENDED A NUMBER OF CALLS
29:04TO GO TO PORTLAND STREET
29:06RESPONSE. PORTLAND POLICE
29:07RESPONDS TO ABOUT 23,000
29:09WELFARE CHECKS PER YEAR. AN
29:11ESTIMATED 14,000, OR 61% OF
29:15THESE CALLS CAN BE TRANSFERRED
29:17TO PORTLAND STREET. RESPONSE.
29:18IT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT, AND
29:20THIS REALLY HAS TO DO WITH
29:21LOCATION EXPANDING THE KINDS OF
29:25LOCATIONS SO THAT PEOPLE ON
29:27BICYCLES, PEOPLE IN PARKED CARS,
29:29PEOPLE IN PRIVATE RESIDENCES.
29:31SO IT'S REALLY JUST A SMALL
29:33AMOUNT THAT IS HELD WITH THE
29:36POLICE THAT IN THIS REPORT, YOU
29:39KNOW, THE VIOLENT CRIMES, THE
29:42IN THE IN TRAFFIC, CARS AND
29:43TRAFFIC. AND WE ALSO ADVOCATE
29:49THEN THAT CITY COUNCIL CONTINUE
29:54TO EXTEND CALL REALLOCATION
29:56STUDIES. COUNCILOR NOVICK HAD
29:58ADDED AS A BUDGET NOTE TO
30:00EXTEND THAT ONE FOR THE WELFARE
30:03CHECKS. WE THINK THAT THERE'S A
30:04LOT MORE THE CITY OF PORTLAND
30:06CAN LEARN FROM THE REST OF THE
30:09NATION. DAYTON, OHIO, HAS A
30:11VERY INNOVATIVE MODEL CALLED
30:13FIELD MEDIATION, AND THERE'S A
30:15LOT OF TOOLS NOW TO BE ABLE TO
30:17DO THIS. THEY ESTIMATE ABOUT
30:2020% OF THESE CALLS TO 911 CAN
30:24BE PICKED UP IN THIS WAY. IN
30:25OTHER WORDS, THESE ARE
30:26RELATIONSHIP PROBLEMS. SO
30:28NEIGHBOR TROUBLE, NOISE
30:30COMPLAINTS, PEACE ORDER
30:32REQUESTS, DISORDERLY SUBJECT
30:34JUVENILE CALLS. THEY ACTUALLY
30:36CLASSIFY ALL JUVENILE CALLS
30:37UNDER THIS WELFARE CHECKS,
30:39BARKING ANIMALS BARKING DOG AND
30:42THEN ANIMAL ROOMMATE TROUBLE.
30:44AND THEN WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT
30:47PORTLAND LOOK AT WHETHER IT
30:48WANTS TO EXPAND TO YOUTH CRISES
30:51THAT A LOT OF CITIES DO THIS.
30:54SO THERE'S COUNTLESS MODELS TO
30:56LOOK AT. AND WITH THIS, THEN,
31:01OF COURSE, WE NEED TO
31:03PRIORITIZE ALWAYS PSR AND BOEC
31:06STAFFING TRAINING EQUIPMENT FOR
31:09EXPANSIONS. SO JUST THE WELFARE
31:12CHECK REPORT ALONE WOULD DOUBLE
31:14THE AMOUNT OF CALLS THAT PSR
31:17RESPONDS TO. AND THERE'S A
31:19ROADMAP IN THAT PLAN TO, TO DO
31:21THAT, WE RECOGNIZE THOUGH, OR
31:25WE WANT TO REALLY EMPHASIZE
31:26THESE CALLS HAVE TO BE
31:28RESPONDED TO BY SOMEONE. SO
31:30WHERE IT'S AN EXPANSION OF PSR,
31:33IT'S JUST MEETING THE CALLS
31:35WITH THE THE APPROPRIATE
31:38RESPONDER. AND THEN WITH BOEC,
31:40IT'S VERY IMPORTANT ALWAYS THAT
31:42WE LOOK AT HOW BOEC CAN SUPPORT
31:45ALL OF ITS FIRST RESPONDERS.
31:49DECEMBER 1ST, BOEC WILL START
31:52DISPATCH HAVING A PORTLAND
31:53STREET RESPONSE DISPATCHER. SO
31:55THIS IS A BIG SHIFT, AND I'M
31:57HAPPY TO GEEK OUT ON THAT AS
31:59MUCH AS ANYONE WANTS, BUT RIGHT
32:01NOW THEY HAVE THAT BUDGETED.
32:03BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY
32:04IMPORTANT AS YOU LOOK AT BOEC
32:06CALL RESPONSE TIMES, WHICH HAVE
32:07GONE DOWN IN IN RECENT TIMES,
32:11THAT IT IS ONE SYSTEM, WHETHER
32:13IT'S FIRE, PSR OR POLICE. AND
32:15SO THE TRAINING, STAFFING AND
32:18EQUIPMENT TO, TO MEET THOSE
32:19NEEDS IS ALWAYS REALLY
32:21IMPORTANT. AND THEN THIS IS
32:24GETTING A LITTLE BIT INTO THE
32:26WEEDS. BUT THIS IS, I THINK, A
32:28VERY IMPORTANT PIECE. AND THAT
32:31IS THAT PSR CALLS ARE CODED
32:35DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY WERE OR
32:37WOULD BE IF THEY'RE POLICE
32:38CALLS. SO SINCE FROM FEBRUARY
32:412021 TO SEPTEMBER 2026, PSR
32:44CODE CALLS WERE CODED PSR. AND
32:47NOW THEY'RE STARTING OCTOBER
32:491ST. THERE'S SIX CALL TYPES.
32:52AND THEN ACCORDING TO THAT
32:54WELFARE CHECK, THERE COULD BE A
32:55SEVENTH RECOMMENDED. AND SO
32:58WHAT WE REALLY ADVOCATE IS THAT
33:02THAT THERE IS AN OPERATIONAL
33:04WAY TO BE TRACKING THESE CALLS
33:07SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD
33:09BE IF THE POLICE RESPONDED
33:12INSTEAD OF PSR, WOULD THEY BE
33:13AN UNWANTED PERSON, CALL A
33:15WELFARE CHECK A DISORDER CALL.
33:19SO I'LL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT
33:20WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. ONE
33:23OF THEM, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO
33:25GO TO THE REPORT FROM JUNE THAT
33:27THE POLICE BUREAU ISSUED ABOUT
33:30ITS RECRUITMENT GOALS. AND ONE
33:32OF THE THINGS IN THAT REPORT
33:33THAT THEY DISCUSS IS THAT THEIR
33:36OWN LABOR AND THEIR ABILITY TO
33:38MEET OTHER CALLS CAN BE
33:42SUPPORTED. SHOULD THERE BE
33:44DIVERSION TO PORTLAND STREET
33:45RESPONSE AND OTHER PROGRAMS. SO
33:47THIS FREES UP WHEN THE POLICE
33:49ARE TALKING ABOUT THEIR
33:50RECRUITMENT ISSUES. THIS FREES
33:52THEM UP FOR THOSE HIGHER ACUITY
33:54CALLS. NOW, THAT KIND OF
33:56DIVERSION IS REALLY IMPORTANT
33:59LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY. IN
34:01OTHER WORDS, PEOPLE IN THIS
34:02CITY REALLY CARE ABOUT PORTLAND
34:04STREET RESPONSE. WE ALL NEED TO
34:06KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR
34:07PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM. WE NEED
34:09TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF CALLS ARE
34:12DIVERTED FROM POLICE TO
34:14PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE. SO
34:15THIS NEEDS TO BE TRACKED IN A
34:17WAY WHERE RESEARCHERS DON'T
34:19HAVE TO LABORIOUSLY CRUNCH DATA
34:21AND READ THROUGH CALL TYPES, AS
34:23THEY'VE HAD TO DO SO FAR. AND
34:25THIS IS A WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY
34:26PARTICIPATE NATIONALLY. A
34:27NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES DO THIS
34:29MORE. SO YOU KNOW THIS FROM
34:33GEORGETOWN, ONE OF THE
34:34INSTITUTES I MENTIONED, THAT
34:36REALLY EMPHASIZES OR REALLY
34:38STUDIES THIS WORK DIVERSION
34:40RATES. THE PERCENTAGE OF CALLS
34:42SHIFTED AWAY FROM LAW
34:43ENFORCEMENT TOWARD COMMUNITY
34:44SAFETY. RESPONDERS HAVE
34:46THEREFORE EMERGED AS ONE OF THE
34:47CLEAREST INDICATORS OF WHETHER
34:50A JURISDICTION IS MEANINGFULLY
34:53OPERATIONALIZING ALTERNATIVE
34:54RESPONSE. AND I HAVE HERE ONE
34:56OF THE BIG PROJECTS IS ACTUALLY
34:58NEW YORK UNIVERSITY. THEY'RE
35:00DOING A 12 MILLION CALLS
35:02INITIATIVE BASED ON THE IDEA
35:04THAT MINNESOTA OR, EXCUSE ME,
35:06MINNEAPOLIS, PUT FORWARD OF
35:07HAVING 20% OF ITS POLICE CALLS
35:10DIVERTED TO ITS ALTERNATIVE
35:12RESPONSE CRISIS RESPONSE
35:14PROGRAM. IF THE 100 LARGEST
35:16CITIES DO THAT, WHICH WOULD
35:17INCLUDE PORTLAND, THAT'D BE 12
35:18MILLION CALLS A YEAR. PORTLAND
35:20ONLY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT IF
35:22WE TRACK OUR DATA BETTER. YEAH.
35:27EXPAND PSR 247. AS WITH THE
35:30CO-EQUAL BRANCH, COUNCIL
35:32ALREADY RESOLVED TO DO THIS. SO
35:34IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING IT
35:37HAPPEN. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT
35:41THAT OUR STAFF HAS CREATED AN
35:44EXPANSION PLAN. APRIL ROE,
35:46WHO'S HERE TODAY WHILE SHE WAS
35:49INTERIM MANAGER. AND NOW WE
35:51HAVE EBONY MORGAN AS OUR
35:54PROGRAM MANAGER. IF YOU HAVEN'T
35:56MET EBONY AND SHE'S HERE TODAY,
35:58I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO
36:00BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THAT
36:02EBONY BRINGS US INTO THE NEXT
36:04ERA WITH PORTLAND STREET
36:06RESPONSE. SHE NOT ONLY COMES
36:08FROM SORT OF MANAGING THE, THE,
36:12THE CORNERSTONE OF PROGRAMS
36:14CAHOOTS, BUT THEN SHE MOVED TO
36:16CREATE A PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF
36:17LOS ANGELES. AND THAT PROGRAM
36:20THAT SHE CREATED IS 24 OVER
36:22SEVEN. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE
36:24THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT WE REALLY
36:25HAVE SOMEONE IN THAT POSITION
36:28THAT KNOWS HOW TO MAKE THIS
36:30HAPPEN. AND SO I THINK WE HAVE
36:32ALL THE PIECES IN LINE AND WE
36:36JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT, LOOK
36:38TO EBONY TO, TO UPDATE THE
36:41EXPANSION PLAN. AND WE WANT
36:44COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THAT WORK.
36:47>> AND A WORD ON THE 247
36:51EXPANSION. CURRENTLY, PSR
36:54RESPONDS FROM 6 A.M. TO
36:56MIDNIGHT EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.
36:57SO IT WOULD JUST BE TO COVER 24
36:59OVER SEVEN AND KIND OF
37:01PROPORTIONAL STAFFING TO, TO
37:02THE VOLUME OF CALLS. SO THE
37:06NEXT RECOMMENDATION WE'RE AT
37:07FIVE IS FOR THE CITY TO DEVELOP,
37:10TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE
37:12PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE
37:13TRAINING ACADEMY. SO THE HEART
37:17OF THIS RECOMMENDATION IS
37:19REALLY SO THAT WE CAN EQUIP PSR
37:22STAFF TO HAVE ALL THE REQUIRED,
37:24THE, THE RECOMMENDED
37:25RECOMMENDED TRAINING TO BE ABLE
37:27TO RESPOND TO THE CRISES THAT
37:29WE SEE ON THE, ON THE STREETS.
37:33AND SO CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A
37:38TRAINING ACADEMY BUILT THROUGH
37:41THE RELATIONSHIP WITH PORTLAND
37:44STATE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF
37:46SOCIAL WORK. BUT WE ARE. THIS
37:49RECOMMENDATION IS JUST TO
37:50REALLY BUILD OUT THIS PROGRAM,
37:54A STRONG TRAINING ACADEMY WILL
37:56WORK TO REDUCE BARRIERS THAT
37:58MIGHT DISCOURAGE STRONG
38:01APPLICANTS FROM APPLYING.
38:03LOOKING AT THIS, THIS MODEL IS
38:05ALSO KIND OF. WE'RE. WE'RE
38:06TAKING A LOOK AT THE PORTLAND
38:09POLICE BUREAU AND THE PORTLAND
38:11FIRE AND RESCUE PAID EDUCATION
38:14PROGRAMS. THERE'S ALSO
38:17EXTENSIVE ACADEMIES THAT THAT
38:20ARE KIND OF INSPIRED BY OTHER
38:22OTHER CITIES THAT CAN BE FOUND
38:25IN THIS REPORT. SO IN THIS
38:28TRAINING ACADEMY, IT'S REALLY
38:30TO BUILD OUT, YOU KNOW, BODIES
38:32OF KNOWLEDGE AND TOOLS AROUND
38:35PUBLIC HEALTH, FIRST RESPONSE,
38:37MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS EXPERTISE
38:39AND COMMUNITY HEALTH AND PEER
38:42WORK. SO YEAH, WE, WE RECOMMEND
38:45THAT THE TRAINING ACADEMY CAN
38:48CONTINUE TO BE BUILT OUT AS
38:49ADVISED BY OUR PROGRAM MANAGER.
38:54SO THE NEXT THE NEXT
38:57RECOMMENDATION IS TO EXPAND
39:00OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATIONS FOR
39:03COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. SO CITY
39:05SHOULD BUDGET FOR CULTURALLY
39:07RESPONSIVE, MULTILINGUAL
39:08OUTREACH FOR COMMUNITY
39:10EDUCATION AND ENGAGEMENT ABOUT
39:13PSR. SO, YOU KNOW, IN SPEAKING
39:16TO TO JUST KIND OF EVERYDAY
39:18PORTLANDERS, FOLKS MAY, YOU
39:20KNOW, HAVE QUESTIONS AROUND
39:22WHAT PSR DOES AND DOES NOT DO.
39:24THEY MAY HAVE HESITATIONS TO
39:27CALL 911 FOR VARIOUS REASONS,
39:31BUT WE REALLY WANT TO BUILD
39:33OPPORTUNITIES, OUTREACH, YOU
39:34KNOW, HAVE HAVE TABLING A
39:38COMMUNITY EVENTS AND LISTENING
39:40SESSIONS ON REALLY EMPOWERING
39:42AND EQUIPPING PORTLANDERS TO
39:45HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE,
39:46REASSURANCE AND MAKE INFORMED
39:48DECISIONS WITH, WITH CALLING
39:50PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE AND,
39:52YOU KNOW, FUN POSTERS AND ADS
39:55AND ALL OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA
39:58COMMUNICATIONS CAN REALLY JUST
39:59HELP BUILD OUT PUBLIC EDUCATION
40:02AROUND PSR. SO WITH THIS NEXT
40:07RECOMMENDATION, CITY TO BUDGET
40:09RECRUITMENT, RETENTION, AND
40:11WELLNESS OF PSR STAFF, WE
40:13REALLY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
40:15WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE,
40:17THE, THE WELLNESS AND THE
40:19COLLECTIVE CARE OF, OF STAFF.
40:21AS WE KNOW, WITH THIS KIND OF
40:24FRONT LINE CRISIS RESPONSE WORK,
40:27WE SEE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW,
40:29SYMPTOMS OF SECONDARY TRAUMA
40:30AND BURNOUT AMONG AMONG OUR
40:33CRISIS RESPONDERS. SO MAKING
40:35SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING THE
40:37MEASURES TO REALLY CONSIDER
40:39REST RECOVERY AND STAFF
40:41WELLNESS AND, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE
40:44SURE THAT OUR, OUR RESPONDERS
40:47FEEL LIKE THEY, THEY'RE JUST
40:51CARED FOR IN A MYRIAD OF WAYS.
40:54AND IT GOES ALSO INTO SOME
40:57RECRUITMENT SO THAT IT REALLY
40:58MAKES THE, THE HIRING PROCESS
41:01EQUITABLE AND ACCESSIBLE FOR
41:03APPLICANTS WHO, YEAH, WOULD
41:05JUST BE GREAT APPLICANTS, BUT
41:07MAYBE THERE ARE SOME FINANCIAL
41:09BARRIERS THERE. FINALLY, IF I'M
41:14IF I MISS ANYTHING, KAYA,
41:16PLEASE TAP IN FOR THIS LAST
41:19RECOMMENDATION HERE. SO THE
41:22CITY LEADERSHIP SHOULD CODIFY
41:24AND MAKE PERMANENT PORTLAND
41:26STREET RESPONSE COMMUNITY
41:28ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO THIS
41:30COMMITTEE THAT WE ARE PRESENTLY
41:33ON HAS BEEN FOR ABOUT SIX
41:35MONTHS. AND SO IT WOULD SUNSET.
41:37SO WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE
41:39THAT THERE IS A PERMANENT
41:41COMMITTEE THAT CAN MAKE SURE
41:42THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THESE
41:44RECOMMENDATIONS, GATHERING
41:45COMMUNITY INPUT, BEING A BRIDGE
41:47BETWEEN PSR STAFF AND COMMUNITY
41:50MEMBERS, THAT THAT BODY OF A
41:53COMMITTEE, YEAH, STAYS STAYS
41:55WITH US. SO YEAH, IN THE, IN
41:59THE RECOMMENDATION, IT GOES
42:01INTO WHO COMPRISES OF THE
42:04COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SO THE, SO
42:06EXPERTS IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH,
42:07MENTAL HEALTH, MOBILE CRISIS
42:10SERVICES TO THOSE WITH LIVED
42:12EXPERIENCE AND RELATIONSHIP
42:14WITH AND REPRESENT IMPACTED
42:17COMMUNITIES AND CLIENTS OF, OF
42:20PSR GOES INTO STAFFING STIPEND
42:23AND ONBOARDING. SO IT WOULD
42:26LOOK LIKE OUR ADVISORY
42:28COMMITTEE CURRENTLY HELP ON
42:30BOARD NEW MEMBERS. A REPORT
42:34WOULD BE PUBLISHED THROUGH THIS
42:36COMMITTEE ANNUALLY, AND SUPPORT
42:38WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND
42:40OUTREACH. AND THEN THERE'S IT
42:41JUST KIND OF DETAILS THE TASKS
42:45THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND
42:46JUST KIND OF, YEAH, OUR VISION
42:48FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
42:50>> YEAH, I I'LL JUST ADD THAT
42:52ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE LEARNED
42:54THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS, FIRST
42:56OF ALL, JUST HOW IMPORTANT IT
42:58IS THAT WE REALLY FIGURE OUT
43:02HOW TO INCLUDE PEOPLE WITH
43:05LIVED EXPERIENCE IN A
43:07MEANINGFUL WAY. AND THAT
43:09INCLUDES HOW PEOPLE ARE
43:10APPOINTED ONTO THE COMMITTEE SO
43:12THAT IF SOMEONE WERE
43:15RECOMMENDING THAT AT LEAST ONE,
43:16THAT WE REPRESENT ALL FOUR
43:18DISTRICTS, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING
43:20THAT HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING
43:22ARE UNSTABLE AND THAT PEOPLE
43:24ARE MOVED AND PLACED INTO
43:26DIFFERENT SPACES, INCLUDING
43:27OUTSIDE OF PORTLAND. SO REALLY
43:29MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE A
43:34INSIGHT FOR THIS COMMITTEE INTO
43:36HOW TO INCLUDE PEOPLE FOR WHOM
43:39THEIR LIVES ARE LESS STABLE.
43:41AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO COME INTO
43:42CITY SPACES. SO WITH THAT IN
43:44MIND, WE HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT
43:47THE COMMITTEE MEET AT LEAST
43:49FOUR TIMES A YEAR IN AND AND
43:52ONCE IN EACH OF THE DISTRICTS
43:54IN A SPACE WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE
43:57IMPACTED BY PORTLAND STREET
43:59RESPONSE EASILY WOULD GO TO.
44:02AND SO THAT WE'RE REALLY
44:04SUPPORTING THE PROGRAM AND THE
44:06BUREAU WITH THIS DEEP
44:10CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY SO
44:12THAT THEY CAN ALSO BRING POLICY
44:15IDEAS TO AND GET FEEDBACK AND
44:18REALLY MAINTAIN THAT MEANINGFUL
44:20BACK AND FORTH. RIGHT. THAT HAS
44:23BEEN A PART OF THIS PROGRAM
44:24SINCE THE BEGINNING BECAUSE IT
44:25IT WAS GENERATED WITHIN THE
44:28CITY ITSELF. SO I THINK THAT'S,
44:32THAT'S ALL I WOULD ADD TO THAT.
44:33AND THEN AT THE END OF OUR
44:35REPORT, WE HAVE OUR CITY CODE
44:40RECOMMENDATION. SO
44:41RECOMMENDATIONS ONE, TWO, AND
44:42EIGHT ARE REALLY THE ONES THAT
44:43ARE IN CITY CODE, AND THAT IS
44:45TO CREATE THE BUREAU TO CODIFY
44:48PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE AS
44:51NON-ENFORCEMENT AND TO CREATE
44:53THIS COMMUNITY ADVISORY
44:55COMMITTEE. SO I KNOW SOME OF
44:56THIS MIGHT SEEM REPETITIVE,
44:58BECAUSE YOU ALREADY VOTED FOR A
45:00RESOLUTION THAT DID MOST OF
45:02THIS, NOT THE BUREAU PORTION,
45:04EXCEPT YOU DID RESOLVE TO
45:05CREATE A CO-EQUAL BRANCH. BUT
45:08THIS IS ABOUT GETTING IT INTO
45:10INTO CITY CODE THROUGH AN
45:12ORDINANCE. SO WE WE RECOMMEND
45:15THAT COUNCIL USE OUR DRAFT CODE
45:18TOWARD BRINGING AN ORDINANCE
45:21FORWARD WITH OUR OTHER
45:23RESOLUTIONS. WE. THEY ARE CITY
45:26COUNCIL DRIVEN, SUCH AS THE
45:28CALL REALLOCATION WORK AND ALSO
45:31BUDGET DRIVEN. AND WE THINK WE
45:34HAVE. THERE'S A REALLY STRONG
45:36BUREAU AND PROGRAM STAFF WHO
45:38HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL TO
45:40US. SO WE DO REALLY ENCOURAGE
45:43CITY COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THEM IN
45:45MAKING THE BUREAU AND THE
45:47PROGRAM AS STRONG AS POSSIBLE.
45:49SO NOW WE CAN TURN TO QUESTIONS.
45:54>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILOR
45:56SMITH.
45:59>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
46:01THANK YOU SO MUCH, PSR, FOR
46:03COMING AND GIVING US ALL THIS
46:05VALUABLE INFORMATION. AND YOU
46:07ALL CAME AND PRESENTED AT MY
46:09COFFEE WITH A COP AND COMMUNITY
46:11THAT I DO EVERY MONTH. AND IT
46:13WAS REALLY VALUABLE TO LET
46:15PEOPLE KNOW WHAT EXACTLY PSR
46:18DID. ONE OF THE, THE QUESTIONS
46:22I WANTED TO ASK OF YOU, BECAUSE
46:24WE ADDED, I THINK THE PORTLAND
46:27SOLUTIONS, WE ADDED A HOMELESS
46:29BUREAU, I BELIEVE, A COUPLE OF
46:32YEARS AGO. AND I'M WONDERING,
46:35HAVE YOU ALL EVER THOUGHT ABOUT
46:36THE CORRELATION BETWEEN
46:38HOMELESSNESS AND PSR AND MAYBE
46:42BEING ADDED TO THE PORTLAND
46:44SOLUTIONS BUREAU?
46:49>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILOR
46:51SMITH. AND I WILL ADD, WE HAVE
46:53STAFF HERE IF THEY WANT TO JOIN
46:54FOR ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS. SO,
46:58YOU KNOW, CITIES ACROSS THE
47:00NATION STARTED FOR DIFFERENT
47:02REASONS. THERE WAS A KIND OF A
47:04CONVERGENCE OF MOTIVATIONS. AND
47:06IN SOME WAYS, HOMELESSNESS WAS
47:08A DRIVING FACTOR IN PORTLAND
47:11BECAUSE OVER HALF OF ALL THE
47:13ARRESTS IN 2017, 1819 WERE OF
47:16UNHOUSED PEOPLE. AND AS AS THAT
47:19ISSUE GOT UNTANGLED, WE SAW
47:21THAT A LOT OF THEM WERE THESE
47:23KIND OF DISORDER CALLS,
47:24UNWANTED PERSON CALLS. SO THERE
47:26IS A CONNECTION, BUT THAT IS
47:28NOT THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. IT IS
47:31THAT PEOPLE ARE IN PUBLIC
47:33SPACES AND AND HAVE A LACK OF
47:37SERVICES. SO OTHER PROGRAMS
47:39HAVE STARTED BECAUSE OF, OF THE
47:44DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON
47:46PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS,
47:49FOLKS OF COLOR. AND SO ALL OF
47:52THIS COMES TOGETHER. AND THEN
47:53WE HAVE, AS I WAS DESCRIBING IN
47:55DAYTON, THE KIND OF
47:56RELATIONSHIP ISSUES THAT DRIVE
47:58SO MANY 911 CALLS. SO I SAY
48:01THAT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT
48:02IT WOULD BE DANGEROUS TO TAKE
48:05ONE IDENTITY OR POPULATION AND
48:07PULL IT OUT OF A, OF A
48:10COMMUNITY SAFETY, A PUBLIC
48:12SAFETY STRUCTURE. AND IT'S,
48:15IT'S A, I THINK, A MORE
48:16PORTLAND FOCUSED PROGRAM TO
48:18LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY. LEE.
48:21>> YEAH, RIGHT. EXACTLY. AND I
48:23THINK THAT, YOU KNOW,
48:24PORTLAND'S SOLUTIONS, IT
48:27INVOLVES A NUMBER OF THINGS.
48:29BUT THE THE THING THAT I WORRY
48:31ABOUT IS THAT I DIDN'T SEE A
48:33NUMBER ON HOW MUCH THIS
48:35EXPANSION WOULD COST. DID YOU
48:37HAVE A NUMBER?
48:38>> WE DO. AND WE HAVE SOMEONE
48:40WHO HAS BEEN WORKING HARD ON
48:42THAT DIRECTOR STEPHANIE HOWARD.
48:45>> GOOD MORNING. COUNCILOR FOR
48:46THE RECORD, MY NAME IS
48:48STEPHANIE HOWARD. I'M THE
48:49DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SAFETY
48:50PROGRAMS FOR THE CITY'S PUBLIC
48:52SAFETY SERVICE AREA. AND TO
48:55YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILOR. YES,
48:56I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
48:57BUDGET TEAM TO IDENTIFY COSTS
49:00ASSOCIATED WITH THESE
49:01RECOMMENDATIONS. LARGELY, THE
49:03RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO MAINTAIN
49:05THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, BUT
49:07THERE ARE THREE POTENTIAL AREAS
49:09WHERE THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL
49:10COSTS. SO THE FIRST WOULD BE IF
49:13THIS IS A BUREAU AND A DIRECTOR
49:15WERE APPOINTED OR, YOU KNOW,
49:17PUT IN THAT POSITION TO LEAD
49:19THE BUREAU, THERE WOULD BE A
49:21RECLASSIFICATION OF THE
49:21POSITION I'M CURRENTLY IN,
49:22WHICH IS A MANAGER TWO RIGHT
49:24NOW TO A DIRECTOR, ONE, THAT
49:27ESTIMATED COST WOULD BE $36,000
49:30ANNUALLY. THERE WOULD BE A
49:32RECLASSIFICATION FOR EQUITY
49:34PURPOSES AMONG SOME OF THE
49:36LEADERSHIP LEVEL OF THE
49:37PROGRAMS UNDER THIS BUREAU. SO
49:39FOR THE CEASE FIRE PROGRAM FOR
49:41OVP AND PORTLAND STREET
49:43RESPONSE, WE WOULD RECLASSIFY
49:44ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS TO BE AN
49:46EQUAL LEVEL MANAGER ONE, AND
49:49THAT WOULD BE A $30,000 ANNUAL
49:52COST, AND THEN.
49:53>> HAVE LIKE A BIG DOLLAR
49:54AMOUNT OF I DON'T I DON'T WANT
49:56YOU TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL
49:58THESE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS
49:59AND HOW YOU WOULD INCREASE THEM.
50:00DO YOU HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT? IS
50:02IT GOING TO COST ANOTHER 5
50:03MILLION TO DO THIS? ANOTHER 10
50:05MILLION. TELL ME A NUMBER, A
50:06SOLID NUMBER.
50:07>> I CAN TELL YOU, YOU
50:08COUNCILOR JUST ONE MORE THAT I
50:10JUST WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD,
50:12WHICH IS THAT THERE ACCORDING
50:13WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION, WE'VE
50:14ASKED FOR THE BUDGET ESTIMATES
50:17FOR A 0.5 FTE TO HELP TO
50:19SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY OR THE
50:21COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE IF
50:22IT'S CREATED. THE TOTAL OF
50:24THOSE IS $144,000 PER YEAR
50:27ESTIMATED.
50:29>> OKAY. AND, AND WHERE I'M
50:32MOST CONCERNED IS WE CREATED A,
50:37A NEW BUREAU WITHOUT ANY
50:39NUMBERS. AND SO I'M WORRIED
50:42THAT AS WE CREATE NEW BUREAUS
50:45AND NEW OPPORTUNITIES, I HEARD
50:47SO MUCH EXPANSION CONVERSATION
50:50IN THE IN THE REPORT, I'M
50:52WORRIED BECAUSE WE HAD $170
50:56MILLION DEFICIT FOR OUR CURRENT
50:59OPERATING COSTS. AND I'M
51:01WONDERING, WHERE ARE WE GOING
51:02TO GET THIS MONEY FROM? AND I'M
51:04ASKING EVERYBODY WHO COMES TO
51:06ME FOR EXPANSIONS, NEW PROGRAMS,
51:09TELL ME WHAT YOU WOULD TAKE
51:11AWAY. WHAT WOULD YOU TAKE AWAY
51:13IF WE WERE TO BRING THIS
51:15PROGRAM INTO INTO LINE, WHAT
51:16WOULD YOU TAKE AWAY OUT OF THE
51:18CITY BUDGET? BECAUSE I THINK WE
51:22NEED TO HAVE THIS, THIS KIND OF
51:23MODEL AS AS A PAY AS YOU GO
51:25MODEL LIKE THEY DO IN CONGRESS.
51:27IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE GOING TO
51:28BRING SOMETHING FORWARD, YOU
51:29GOT TO TAKE SOMETHING AWAY. SO
51:31DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON WHAT
51:33YOU WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM OUR
51:34CITY BUDGET TO BRING THIS IN?
51:38>> I.
51:41>> COUNCILOR I STEP IN ON THAT
51:42QUESTION RIGHT THERE. WE
51:43HAVEN'T REACHED THAT POINT YET
51:45OF DOING ANY DELIBERATIONS AS
51:46IT RELATES TO WHAT WE WOULD
51:49TAKE OUT. I THINK WE'LL GO
51:50THROUGH A PRIORITIZATION KIND
51:52OF CONVERSATION AS THE
51:54EXECUTIVE ARM, TO KIND OF TALK
51:55THROUGH IF THIS IS THE
51:56DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL IS
51:58WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD AS IT
51:59RELATES TO, WHAT COULD WE OFFER
52:01UP AS IT RELATES TO SERVICES OR
52:05FUNDING OR REALLOCATING THINGS
52:07TO MAKE THIS DOABLE? BUT THIS
52:09IS AND I'M WITH YOU ON THIS,
52:11THIS WILL REQUIRE SOME
52:13ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO MAKE
52:14HAPPEN, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO
52:15HAVE A CONVERSATION INTERNALLY
52:17ABOUT HOW WE WOULD PROPOSE TO
52:19COUNCIL OF US DOING THAT. AND
52:20WHAT ARE THOSE TRADE OFFS IN
52:22THAT CONVERSATION.
52:24>> AND I WOULD ALSO CA LIKE TO
52:27HEAR SOME CONVERSATION FROM THE
52:29OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY
52:30ORGANIZATIONS, BECAUSE I HEARD
52:31A LOT OF EXPANSION IN THE 911
52:34BUREAU WOULD NEED TO TAKE PLACE
52:37TO, TO DO THIS IN THE WAY THAT
52:40THEY HAVE PRESENTED IT. AND I'M
52:41JUST I'M JUST CONCERNED. I MEAN,
52:44YOU KNOW, WE WE DON'T KNOW HOW
52:47WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR WHAT WE
52:49HAVE NEXT YEAR, BUT ADDING NEW
52:51STUFF THAT THAT WORRIES ME. AND
52:53THEN THEN I HAVE TO IDENTIFY
52:55WHERE I WANT TO TAKE AWAY. BUT
52:57I'M NOT GOING TO KEEP ALL THAT
52:59ON MY SHOULDERS. I'M GOING TO
53:00ASK FOLKS WHO, WHO ARE COMING
53:02IN THAT THEY WANT SOMETHING IF
53:03THEY WANT ONGOING MONEY,
53:04BECAUSE THIS SOUNDS LIKE AN
53:06ONGOING PROGRAM. IF YOU'RE
53:06GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A BUREAU,
53:10THEN THEY SHOULD ALSO HAVE AN
53:13OPPORTUNITY TO TELL ME WHERE
53:14THEY WOULD TAKE TAKE IT FROM.
53:16>> AND I'LL JUST ADD COUNCILOR.
53:19AND THIS IS NOT ADDRESSING
53:20WHAT'S BEING TAKEN AWAY. BUT I
53:22DID WANT TO MENTION WITH THE
53:24POLICE RECRUITMENT REPORT THAT
53:26YOU PROVIDED ME, THAT THAT HAS
53:29BEEN REALLY HELPFUL AS SEEING
53:31THE PUBLIC SERVICE, THE PUBLIC
53:34SAFETY SERVICE AREA AS ONE
53:37ENTITY. AND SO ALL OF THESE
53:38CALLS ARE BEING NEED TO BE
53:40RESPONDED TO BY ONE OF THE
53:43RESPONDERS. AND SO WE'RE
53:44ACTUALLY JUST LOOKING AT THE
53:45FACT THAT WE'D BE FOR A CITY
53:47MATCHING THE BETTER RESPONDER
53:49FOR PARTICULAR CALLS.
53:53>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.
53:54I WANT YOU ALL TO GIVE SOME
53:56SOME REAL THOUGHTS TO MY
53:59QUESTION, BECAUSE IT IS GOING
54:01TO BE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO
54:03WILL SIT IN YOUR SEAT AND
54:04BEFORE US, WHO WILL ASK US FOR
54:06EXPANSION. AND I KNOW THAT
54:07PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE IN A
54:09DEFICIT, AND WE'RE GOING TO
54:12HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET
54:13THAT $170 MILLION BACK AGAIN.
54:15AND WE CAN'T KEEP REPLACING IT
54:17WITH ONE TIME ONLY MONEY. AND
54:19YOU'RE ASKING FOR ONGOING MONEY.
54:21SO I WOULD ALSO ASK YOU TO COME
54:24BACK TO MY OFFICE WITHIN THIS
54:26NEXT MONTH TO GIVE ME SOME
54:28IDEAS ON WHICH ONGOING PROGRAMS
54:30YOU WOULD CUT. AS WE'RE LOOKING
54:33AT THIS, I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE
54:36IS A IS A GOOD IDEA. AND I
54:41THINK IT'S HELPFUL, BUT I ALSO
54:43THINK I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE
54:46ASSISTANCE WITH THIS AS WELL.
54:49>> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR.
54:50COUNCILOR. MORILLO.
54:54>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH
54:56TO THE PRESENTERS. IT'S REALLY
54:57LOVELY TO GET TO SEE SOME OF
54:59YOU AGAIN. KAYA. WE WORK
55:01TOGETHER SINCE, YOU KNOW, BACK
55:03IN THE DAY WHEN PORTLAND STREET
55:05RESPONSE WAS FIRST GETTING
55:06STARTED. SO IT'S REALLY LOVELY
55:07TO SEE YOU IN CHAMBERS AGAIN.
55:08AND I'M SORRY YOU CAN'T BE
55:10THERE IN PERSON. I'M FIGHTING
55:11OFF A PERPETUAL EXHAUSTION COLD.
55:15I, I THINK SOMETHING THAT
55:16REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME FROM
55:17YOUR PRESENTATION WAS THE
55:19DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE OFTEN
55:21CREATED SYSTEMS THAT ARE
55:24PUTTING DOMINATION OF PEOPLE AT
55:25THE FOREFRONT OF HOW WE ADDRESS
55:27THEIR PROBLEMS. AND THAT
55:28PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE IS
55:30DESIGNED IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
55:32AND I KNOW THAT PORTLAND STREET
55:33RESPONSE DOES MENTAL HEALTH
55:35CRISIS, BUT SOMETHING THAT IT
55:36REMINDED ME OF WAS, YOU KNOW,
55:39STUDYING UP ON DRUG USAGE AND
55:43FORCED TREATMENT AND HOW A LOT
55:45OF TIMES PEOPLE WHO ARE FORCED
55:47INTO TREATMENT ACTUALLY END UP
55:51OVERDOSING IN THE TREATMENT
55:52CENTERS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT
55:53PREPARED OR READY TO BE IN
55:54TREATMENT. AND WE HAVE SO MANY
55:57PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED OF
55:57MENTAL HEALTH ASSISTANCE, DRUG
55:59ASSISTANCE, ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
56:01AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH
56:03RESOURCES FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT
56:04ARE WILLING TO GET INTO
56:06TREATMENT. AND YET WE ARE WE'RE
56:07TALKING ABOUT A SYSTEM OF
56:09DOMINATION. SO I JUST
56:10APPRECIATED YOU SAYING THAT. I
56:11THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT MAKES
56:12THE PROGRAM UNIQUE AND SPECIAL
56:14IN OUR SYSTEM. AND I THINK THAT
56:18WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP
56:19RUNNING INTO QUESTIONS ABOUT
56:21COST. AND THOSE ARE VERY FAIR
56:22QUESTIONS. I THINK PART OF OUR
56:24RESPONSIBILITY AS A COUNCIL IS
56:25THAT WE DECIDE WHAT THE TRADE
56:27OFFS ARE AND WHAT THE
56:28PRIORITIES ARE. WE HAVE THE
56:29MOST ACCESS TO THE BUDGET. SO
56:30THAT'S PART OF OUR ROLE. BUT
56:33SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMITTEE
56:34HAS DISCUSSED A LOT, AND I KNOW
56:36COUNCILOR NOVICK HAS DISCUSSED
56:37A LOT, IS IF THE 24 OVER SEVEN
56:40STAFFING MODEL IS GOING TO HELP
56:41MAKE US MEDICAID ELIGIBLE,
56:44BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALSO HELP US
56:45PAY FOR THE EXPANSION OR WHERE
56:50OR IF YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT,
56:51AT BECOMING MEDICAID ELIGIBLE,
56:53IS THAT STILL A RESOURCE OPTION?
56:54AND MAYBE THAT'S FOR THE
56:56PRESENTERS OR SOME OF THE STAFF
56:57IN THE AUDIENCE.
56:58>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR
56:59STEPHANIE HOWARD, AGAIN, I CAN
57:00TAKE THAT QUESTION. YES, 24
57:02OVER SEVEN OPERATION IS
57:04CURRENTLY A REQUIREMENT FOR THE
57:06CAHOOTS ACT MEDICAID FUNDING,
57:07AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK
57:09TOWARDS THAT. AND SO THAT THAT
57:11IS THAT WOULD DEPENDING ON WHAT
57:13HAPPENS WITH THE FEDERAL
57:14GOVERNMENT AND HOW MEDICAID IS
57:17IMPACTED, THAT THAT WOULD BE A
57:18SOURCE OF REVENUE THAT WE COULD
57:20ACCESS.
57:23>> SO I'M SORRY, DIRECTOR
57:25HARRIS, BUT ISN'T THERE A
57:26POSSIBILITY OF GETTING SOME
57:27MEDICAID DOLLARS EVEN BEFORE IN
57:29OTHER KINDS OF MEDICAID DOLLARS
57:30THAN KOZAK DOLLARS?
57:32>> YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR
57:33NOVICK, I'M SORRY. YES, THERE
57:34IS IT IS A IS A LOWER RATE AND
57:37A SMALLER AMOUNT. SO THE
57:38CAHOOTS ACT, MEDICAID ACCESS IS
57:41THE IDEAL SOURCE. BUT YES, WE
57:43ARE WORKING TOWARDS TRYING TO
57:45GET ANY ACCESS TO MEDICAID
57:47DOLLARS.
57:49>> SO IN ESSENCE, THERE, THERE
57:51MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, A SITUATION
57:53WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO PAY
57:55SOMETHING NOW IN ORDER TO GET
57:56TO FREE UP DOLLARS FROM ANOTHER
57:59RESOURCE LATER, WHICH SORT OF
58:01MIRRORS DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE
58:02HAVING FOR OTHER THINGS THAT
58:04ARE MORE LUXURY ORIENTED, I
58:07WOULD SAY. WHEREAS I THINK THAT
58:08PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE IS A
58:10NECESSITY. SO I GUESS AS A
58:11COUNCILOR, THAT'S SORT OF HOW I
58:12WOULD WEIGH SOME OF THOSE
58:14DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS. AND I
58:19WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW.
58:21THANK YOU.
58:22>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR
58:23COUNCILOR KANAL. THANK YOU,
58:25CHAIR NOVICK.
58:26>> THANKS, EVERYBODY FOR BEING
58:27HERE. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT
58:29OF HISTORY TO PSR, MOST OF
58:31WHICH IS CAPTURED IN RESOLUTION
58:3337709. SO I WON'T GO TOO DEEP
58:34THERE. BUT I DID WANT TO JUST
58:36KIND OF RECAP JUNE 15TH. LAST
58:38YEAR WE ADOPTED 37709 SUPPORT,
58:40PROTECT AND EXPAND PSR, WHICH
58:42CREATED THE COMMITTEE. IT HAD
58:44OTHER ADVISORY ROLES BEYOND THE
58:45CODE, BUT AS YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY
58:46MENTIONED, DECEMBER 18TH, YOU
58:49WERE ALL APPOINTED WITH
58:50RESOLUTION THREE, SEVEN, SEVEN,
58:51TWO, EIGHT. 14 MEMBERS OF THE
58:5315 MEMBER COMMITTEE WERE
58:54APPOINTED AND STARTED MEETING
58:55THIS YEAR UNTIL LAST WEEK. AND
58:57I WANTED TO MENTION THAT TO SAY
58:58THAT LAST WEEK YOU ADOPTED YOUR
59:00RECOMMENDATIONS UNANIMOUSLY. SO
59:04KAYA, JILL, AND EVERY MEMBER OF
59:06THE COMMITTEE, INCLUDING
59:08CAROLINE, WHO I KNOW IS A
59:09MEMBER OF STAFF AND WAS A PART
59:11OF THE COMMITTEE AS WELL. OCEAN,
59:13STEPHANIE HOWARD, EBONY AS WELL.
59:16AND THEN I KNOW THAT YOU ALSO
59:17CONSULTED WITH SUBJECT MATTER
59:18EXPERTS. I THINK SEPP CAME A
59:20PROJECT RESPOND CAME AS WELL.
59:21SO YOU DID THE WORK. AND THAT'S
59:23REALLY IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE.
59:25I'VE WORKED IN SUPPORT OF
59:27ADVISORY BODIES AT THE CITY ON
59:29THE OTHER SIDE, AND EVERYBODY
59:32DOES THE WORK. I DON'T MEAN TO
59:34IMPLY THAT THAT THAT SOME DON'T,
59:35BUT SOME DO A LOT MORE AND GO
59:37ABOVE AND BEYOND. AND I REALLY
59:39APPRECIATE HOW MUCH WORK THAT
59:40YOU ALL PUT INTO THIS. I ALSO
59:42KNOW THAT COLLEAGUES,
59:43PARTICULARLY COUNCILORS AVALOS
59:44AND MORILLO, IN THE FIRST
59:45RESOLUTION, MEMBERS OF THIS
59:46COMMITTEE ON THE HIRING AND
59:47COUNCILOR NOVICK ON THE SECOND
59:49RESOLUTION HELPED MAKE IT
59:51SUCCESSFUL, AS WELL AS MAYOR
59:52WILSON, CA LEE. HIGH PROFILE
59:54SHORT TERM ADVISORY GROUPS THAT
59:55MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL
59:57RARELY RECEIVE UNANIMITY. AT
59:59THE END OF THIS. THEY RARELY
1:00:01ACHIEVE THAT MORE MAY EXIST
1:00:03THAN THIS. I'M ONLY AWARE OF
1:00:04TWO THE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY
1:00:06COMMISSION AND YOU. AND SO THAT
1:00:07THAT REALLY DESERVES
1:00:09CELEBRATION AND RECOGNITION
1:00:10BECAUSE IT REQUIRES WORK TO NOT
1:00:12ONLY GET THE THE, THE RESEARCH
1:00:14DONE AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS
1:00:15WRITTEN, BUT TO ENSURE THAT
1:00:16EVERYBODY'S COMING ALONG AND
1:00:18THAT THEIR VOICES ARE HEARD IN
1:00:19EACH AND EVERY, YOU KNOW,
1:00:21HOPEFULLY NOT TO THE COMMON
1:00:22LEVEL, BUT AT LEAST THE THIRD
1:00:23LEVEL. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S
1:00:24REALLY IMPORTANT. I LOOKED AT
1:00:26YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND JUST
1:00:27SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I'M
1:00:28SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF THEM. I, I
1:00:30DON'T THINK THAT I NEED TO PUT
1:00:32ANY MORE COMMENTARY INTO ONE,
1:00:33TWO, FOUR, FIVE, 7 OR 8, BUT
1:00:35WE'LL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THOSE
1:00:36WHEN WE GET FURTHER. I DID WANT
1:00:38TO DIG A LITTLE BIT INTO
1:00:39RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE
1:00:40BECAUSE, AS WAS POINTED OUT,
1:00:41COUNCILOR NOVICK HAS ASKED
1:00:42ABOUT MOVING WELFARE CHECKS TO
1:00:44BETTER RESPONDERS TO FREE UP
1:00:45POLICE RESOURCES MULTIPLE TIMES
1:00:46IN THE PAST. AND IF 60% OF
1:00:49THOSE WELFARE CHECKS WHICH GO
1:00:51TO POLICE TODAY COULD GO TO PSR,
1:00:52THAT'S A HUGE FREEING UP OF
1:00:54POLICE RESOURCES FOR HOMICIDES,
1:00:55ROBBERIES, OTHER HIGH ACUITY
1:00:57CALLS THAT REALLY ONLY POLICE
1:00:58ARE EQUIPPED TO HANDLE. RIGHT
1:01:00NOW, THE CALL ALLOCATION STUDY
1:01:03THAT WAS IN PROGRESS A FEW
1:01:04YEARS AGO WAS PULLED BACK BY
1:01:06MAYOR WHEELER IN A PREVIOUS
1:01:07PHASE, OUT OF FEAR OF WHAT IT
1:01:09MIGHT RECOMMEND. SO IT'S REALLY
1:01:10GREAT TO SEE STRONG SUPPORT FOR
1:01:12THAT AND FOR CONTINUING AND
1:01:13EXPANDING THAT WORK. TODAY, I
1:01:15REALLY WANTED TO THANK KAY LEE
1:01:17AND DIRECTOR HOWARD. THE PSR
1:01:19SPECIFIC DISPATCH IS HUGE AND
1:01:21THE CODING IS REALLY VITAL AS
1:01:22WELL, AND I WANTED TO SEE IF
1:01:24YOU COULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT
1:01:26MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE SIX
1:01:27CALL TYPES, JUST TO KIND OF
1:01:29INDICATE WHAT CHANGED. AND JUST
1:01:30FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHEN
1:01:32SOMETHING GOES TO POLICE OR
1:01:33FIRE, IT'S NOT CODED BASED ON
1:01:35THE RESPONDER. IT'S CODED BASED
1:01:36ON WHAT THE TYPE OF ISSUE IS.
1:01:39WHEREAS PREVIOUS TO, I GUESS A
1:01:41FEW DAYS AGO, IT WAS CODED FOR
1:01:43PSR, JUST AS PSR BASED ON THE
1:01:45RESPONDER. AND THAT LACKED THE
1:01:47INFORMATION THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO
1:01:49HEAR. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO
1:01:50LEARNING MORE.
1:01:51>> YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT.
1:01:53SO AS YOU NOTED, COUNCILOR,
1:01:55THERE WAS ONE SINGLE PSR CALL
1:01:58TYPE FOR ANY CALL THAT WAS THAT
1:02:00MET PSR CRITERIA. AND SO A CALL
1:02:03TAKER AT BOEC WOULD TAKE THAT
1:02:05CODED, AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO
1:02:06THE PSR QUEUE IN ORDER TO BE
1:02:09RESPONDED TO. BUT THE PIECE
1:02:11THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THAT
1:02:13PROCESS THAT IS NOW HAPPENING.
1:02:15WELL, THAT WILL BE HAPPENING IS
1:02:17THAT, NUMBER ONE, OUR
1:02:20SUPERVISORS WERE RESPONSIBLE
1:02:21FOR MANAGING AND REVIEWING THAT
1:02:24CALL LOG CONTINUOUSLY AND
1:02:25IDENTIFYING AND TRIAGING THE
1:02:27CALLS BASED ON WHAT THEY SAW.
1:02:28BECAUSE THERE WAS ONLY ONE CALL
1:02:30TYPE, THEY HAD TO REVIEW EVERY
1:02:31SINGLE CALL TO TRY TO IDENTIFY
1:02:33WHICH TEAMS SHOULD GO. AND THE
1:02:35PRIORITY FOR THOSE CALLS. NOW,
1:02:38WITHOUT CHANGING THE SCOPE OF
1:02:39WORK, HAVING THAT SINGULAR PSR
1:02:41CALL TYPE BROKEN INTO SIX, OUR
1:02:44SUPERVISORS ARE ABLE TO MUCH
1:02:45MORE QUICKLY TRIAGE THE CALL
1:02:47AND SEND THE RESPONDERS TO THE
1:02:50MOST URGENT AND HELP TO TO MAP
1:02:52THAT OUT, WHAT THE DEDICATED
1:02:54DISPATCHER WILL BRING IN
1:02:57DECEMBER IS THAT THE
1:02:58DISPATCHERS WILL NOW BOTH
1:03:00IDENTIFY THE CALL TYPE AND BE
1:03:02ABLE TO DISPATCH A PSR TEAM
1:03:05DIRECTLY. INSTEAD OF HAVING TO
1:03:06HAVE OUR SUPERVISORS
1:03:07RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING AND
1:03:09TRIAGING, IT WILL ADD A LOT OF
1:03:11SUPPORT, WHICH IS THE SAME WAY
1:03:12THAT POLICE AND FIRE ALSO
1:03:13RECEIVE SUPPORT FROM BOEC. SO
1:03:15WE'RE REALLY, REALLY LOOKING
1:03:17FORWARD TO THAT. THAT IS A
1:03:18CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN A LONG
1:03:20TIME IN THE MAKING, AND
1:03:21DIRECTOR COZZIE HAS BEEN A
1:03:22TERRIFIC HELP FOR US TO GET
1:03:24THAT OFF THE GROUND AND REALLY
1:03:26MAKE OUR OPERATIONS MORE
1:03:27EFFICIENT.
1:03:30>> THANK YOU. I GUESS, COULD
1:03:32YOU DO YOU HAVE THE LIST OF THE
1:03:34SIX BY ANY CHANCE? IF NOT, CAN
1:03:36YOU. YEAH.
1:03:37>> YEAH I DO. I'M SORRY. SO YES.
1:03:39SO AGAIN IT'S THE SAME BUCKET
1:03:40OF CALLS. NO CHANGE IN SCOPE OF
1:03:43THE PSR ELIGIBLE CALLS. BUT
1:03:44THEY'VE BEEN BROKEN DOWN INTO A
1:03:46PERSON DOWN AND UNCHECKED,
1:03:48WHICH I THINK IS KIND OF
1:03:50SELF-EXPLANATORY. THERE'S A
1:03:52WELL-BEING CALL INDOORS RIGHT
1:03:54NOW. PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE
1:03:55CAN RESPOND INDOORS IN PUBLICLY
1:03:58ACCESSIBLE SPACES. SO THOSE
1:04:00CALLS WOULD BE CATEGORIZED
1:04:02UNDER THAT SECOND WELL-BEING
1:04:05CHECK CALL. THERE'S A
1:04:07WELL-BEING CHECK OUTSIDE, WHICH
1:04:09IS THIS, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR
1:04:11THING. AND THEN WE HAVE MENTAL
1:04:13HEALTH CRISIS INSIDE AGAIN IN
1:04:15PUBLIC SPACES OR OUTSIDE IN A
1:04:18IN, YOU KNOW, IN OUTSIDE
1:04:21AGENCIES. AND THEN THE SIX CALL
1:04:22TYPE IS THE PSR PARTNER AGENCY
1:04:24REQUEST. SO MORE AND MORE, WHAT
1:04:25WE'VE BEEN SEEING IS EVEN IF A
1:04:27CALL IS ORIGINALLY DISPATCHED
1:04:29TO A POLICE OFFICER, SAY, AND
1:04:31THEY GET TO THE CALL AND ASSESS
1:04:32THE SCENE, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S
1:04:33GOING ON, AND THEY SAY, THIS IS
1:04:35A BETTER CALL FOR PORTLAND
1:04:36STREET RESPONSE. THEY CAN THEN
1:04:38ASSIGN THAT CALL TYPE AND
1:04:39TRANSFER THAT CALL TO PORTLAND
1:04:40STREET RESPONSE TO COME AND
1:04:41RESPOND.
1:04:42>> OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
1:04:43THAT LAST ONE, I THINK IN
1:04:45PARTICULAR IS IS HELPFUL TO
1:04:47HAVE THAT. YEAH. FOR NUMBER SIX,
1:04:50I THINK THE QUESTION IS MORE
1:04:52FOR US IN THE LONG RUN ABOUT
1:04:53HOW, HOW DETAILED WE WANT TO BE
1:04:55IN TERMS OF ESTABLISHING
1:04:57CRITERIA FOR, FOR COMMUNITY
1:04:59ENGAGEMENT STANDARDS AND
1:05:00INTEGRATION. I DEFINITELY
1:05:01SUPPORT EVERYTHING YOU SAID,
1:05:02BEATRIX, IN TERMS OF THE VALUES
1:05:03AND GOALS AROUND IT, AND I
1:05:05APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I GUESS MY
1:05:07QUESTION ON YOUR END IS, IS HOW
1:05:09INTEGRATED WOULD YOU EXPECT
1:05:10BROAD ENGAGEMENT TO BE
1:05:13INTEGRATED IN TERMS OF PSR AND
1:05:14THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PROPOSED
1:05:16BUREAU? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT
1:05:18THE COMMITTEE PIECE, AND YOU'VE
1:05:19RECOMMENDED A PSR SPECIFIC
1:05:20COMMITTEE, BUT IN TERMS OF THE
1:05:21BROADER ENGAGEMENT, DO YOU HAVE
1:05:22THOUGHTS ON THAT, OR IS THERE
1:05:24AN EXPECTATION OF ANY VARIETY?
1:05:26>> SO WAS IT THE RECOMMENDATION
1:05:30FOR LIKE RETENTION AND WELLNESS
1:05:31OF PSR STAFF, OR IS IT THE
1:05:33COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OUTREACH
1:05:34ONE.
1:05:35>> THE ENGAGEMENT OUTREACH ONE.
1:05:38>> DO YOU HAVE? YEAH.
1:05:39>> YOU KNOW, ONE THING I THINK
1:05:41IS REALLY EXCITING AND WE WERE
1:05:43CAREFUL TO NOT BE SPEAKING FOR
1:05:45THE OTHER PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE
1:05:47ARE ADVISORY TO ONE OF THE
1:05:49PROGRAMS. BUT ONE THING THAT'S
1:05:50REALLY EXCITING IS THE
1:05:52INTEGRATION. I'M EVEN NOW
1:05:53HAVING THE EAST, THE, THE, THE
1:05:56NEW BUILDING OR THE CITY
1:05:57BUILDING THAT A NUMBER OF THE
1:05:59PROGRAMS HAVE, HAVE COME
1:06:00TOGETHER IN IS THEY CAN START
1:06:02TO WORK TOGETHER MORE. BUT ALSO
1:06:04I LOOK AT THINGS LIKE IN THE
1:06:05SAFE BLOCKS PROGRAM OR IN SOME
1:06:07OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS WHERE
1:06:09THEY HAVE EDUCATION COMPONENTS
1:06:10AND THEY'RE EDUCATING NEIGHBORS.
1:06:12WELL, THIS IS A KIND OF
1:06:14COMMUNITY SAFETY THAT HELPS
1:06:16PEOPLE DE-ESCALATE SITUATIONS
1:06:18SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO CALL 911.
1:06:21SO YOU START TO SEE HOW MANY
1:06:24PARTNERSHIPS THAT MIGHT BE
1:06:26POSSIBLE. BY HAVING THESE
1:06:28PROGRAMS ALL CONNECTED TOGETHER.
1:06:30AND I EDUCATION IS ONE OF THE
1:06:32ONES THAT STANDS OUT THE MOST
1:06:33TO ME. BUT I ALSO JUST THINK
1:06:35ABOUT THE WAYS IN WHICH
1:06:36PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE CAN BE
1:06:39IN COMMUNICATION FOR REFERRING
1:06:41OR FOR RECEIVING INFORMATION
1:06:43FROM ANOTHER PROGRAM, BECAUSE
1:06:45WE DO FRAME IT IN THAT UPSTREAM,
1:06:47DOWNSTREAM WAY.
1:06:49>> AND PART OF THE OUTREACH AND
1:06:52COMMUNICATIONS CAN ALSO BE
1:06:54DRIVEN BY THE ADVISORY
1:06:56COMMITTEE. SO WITHIN PSR, YOU
1:06:59KNOW, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE
1:07:01MULTILINGUAL OUTREACH AND
1:07:02COMMUNICATION SO THAT IT REALLY
1:07:04REACHES OUR BIPOC AND IMMIGRANT
1:07:06COMMUNITIES AND IMPACTED
1:07:08COMMUNITIES. BUT THAT'S JUST
1:07:10KIND OF LIMITED TO PSR, AND WE
1:07:12WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OF THIS
1:07:14FOR ALL, ALL PROGRAMS.
1:07:17>> I THINK JUST ADDING TO WHAT
1:07:19BEATRICE SAID, THAT MENTAL
1:07:20HEALTH CRISES CHANGE OVER TIME
1:07:23AND CAN HAVE CULTURAL
1:07:26COMPONENTS. WHEN, SAY, A
1:07:27COMMUNITY COMES IN FROM A WAR
1:07:29TORN REGION, AS A REFUGEE
1:07:31POPULATION, OUR CITY HAS TO
1:07:32ADAPT AND UNDERSTAND CULTURAL
1:07:35COMPONENTS, SO WE CAN'T HAVE A
1:07:37STAGNANT PROGRAM WHEN WE'RE
1:07:38DEALING WITH ISSUES OF PERSONAL
1:07:41CRISIS LIKE THAT.
1:07:43>> THANKS. AND THEN I DON'T
1:07:44REALLY PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE I
1:07:46NEED MORE INFO ON NUMBER EIGHT,
1:07:47BUT I DID WANT TO ASK KAYA IF
1:07:49YOU CAN JUST REPEAT WHAT YOU
1:07:51SAID ABOUT PEOPLE WITH LIVED
1:07:53EXPERIENCE BEING APPOINTED. I
1:07:54THINK COUNCIL LACKED THAT
1:07:55AWARENESS LAST DECEMBER, AND
1:07:57I'D LOVE TO HAVE US ALL BE
1:07:58EDUCATED ABOUT THAT AGAIN BY
1:08:00YOU.
1:08:00>> YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S
1:08:01THERE'S SO MANY BARRIERS WHEN
1:08:03SOMEONE IS EXPERIENCING
1:08:05HOMELESSNESS OR OTHER KINDS OF
1:08:07SYSTEM DEPRIVATIONS, AND ONE OF
1:08:10THEM IS STABILITY OF ADDRESS.
1:08:13SO I THINK IT'S REALLY
1:08:14IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO
1:08:15UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE WANT TO
1:08:16MAKE SURE THAT WE OPEN THE DOOR
1:08:19TO PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE,
1:08:20WE WE LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT THE
1:08:23WHAT THEY'RE UP AGAINST. PEOPLE
1:08:25WHO ARE HOMELESS CLEARLY HAVE A
1:08:28ROTATING ADDRESS. IT COULD BE A
1:08:29CORNER WHERE THEY HAVE PITCHED
1:08:31THEIR TENT, BUT THEY MIGHT GET
1:08:33SWEPT, OR THEY MIGHT BE MOVING
1:08:36TO ANOTHER AREA, SO THEY MIGHT
1:08:38MOVE TO ANOTHER SHELTER. RIGHT?
1:08:40SO THIS IS A VERY UNSTABLE
1:08:43ADDRESS. BUT ALSO WHEN PEOPLE
1:08:44ARE GETTING SUPPORTIVE SERVICES
1:08:46WITH HOUSING, IT'S THE SAME
1:08:47THING. YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T
1:08:48HAVE A CHOICE IN GETTING PUT
1:08:50INTO ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
1:08:52ANOTHER. AND WHEN WE HAVE A
1:08:53METRO WIDE HOUSING PROGRAM,
1:08:58THAT THAT CAN ALSO MEAN THAT
1:08:59THEY'RE NOT EVEN IN PORTLAND
1:09:01ANYMORE.
1:09:02>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
1:09:03I'LL MAKE SURE TO CLIP THAT FOR
1:09:05SOMEONE ELSE LATER. I'LL PAUSE
1:09:07HERE. THANKS, CHAIR. NOVICK.
1:09:09>> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR KANAL.
1:09:11I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. ONE IS
1:09:15YOU TALKED ABOUT INCREASING
1:09:17COMPENSATION FOR PSR STAFF. I
1:09:18WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAVE SORT
1:09:22OF INFORMATION ON WHAT
1:09:24COMPARABLE STAFF ARE BEING PAID
1:09:26BY OTHER JURISDICTIONS. ARE WE
1:09:27LIKE BELOW MARKET? ARE WE ABOVE
1:09:28MARKET? ARE WE AT MARKET?
1:09:31>> THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING.
1:09:32SHOULD WE BRING IN STAFF FOR
1:09:34THAT? I THINK THAT OUR
1:09:36RECOMMENDATION WAS ON A GENERAL
1:09:37LEVEL WITH THAT. SO WE AREN'T
1:09:39DIGGING INTO IN THE SIX MONTHS
1:09:42THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS,
1:09:43WE DIDN'T DIG INTO THAT PORTION.
1:09:45>> IN THE RECOMMENDATION. IT
1:09:46DOES HAVE A NOTE ADVISED BY THE
1:09:49PROGRAM MANAGER. AND SO I IT'S
1:09:51KIND OF JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT
1:09:53FOLKS WHO HAVE THE EXPERTISE
1:09:55AROUND THIS ARE MAKING THAT
1:09:56DECISION.
1:09:58>> ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO
1:10:00START TRACKING WHAT PSR CALLS
1:10:03WOULD HAVE BEEN CLASSIFIED AS
1:10:04IF THEY GO TO POLICE. I THINK
1:10:06THAT THAT'S A. THAT SOUNDS
1:10:07REALLY IMPORTANT. I'M JUST
1:10:08WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE
1:10:10COMPLICATED AND EXPENSIVE TO
1:10:11OPERATIONALIZE THAT. WOULD THAT
1:10:12MEAN THAT, LIKE BOEC WOULD HAVE
1:10:14TO CLASSIFY A CALL TWO
1:10:15DIFFERENT WAYS?
1:10:17>> WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO, BUT
1:10:19I WILL SAY BOEC HAS BEEN DOING
1:10:21AMAZING WORK WITH PSR IN SCOTCH
1:10:24TAPING TOGETHER THINGS BECAUSE
1:10:26THEY'VE HAD TO USE THE FIRE CAD
1:10:29SYSTEM AND RADIO ALL ALONG WHEN
1:10:31THESE CALLS WERE PRIMARILY
1:10:33CALLS THAT WERE WERE POLICE
1:10:34CALLS PREVIOUSLY. AND THAT HAS
1:10:36TO DO WITH THE C, G, I S
1:10:39REQUIREMENT. SO IN OTHER WORDS,
1:10:41THEY'VE HAD TO ADAPT SOMETHING
1:10:43THAT IS ENTIRELY NOT SET UP FOR
1:10:45PSR. SO I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT
1:10:47THAT THEY COULD DO SOME BACK
1:10:48END, SOME BACK END WORK ON THE
1:10:53CAD SYSTEM. BUT THAT'S EASY FOR
1:10:54ME TO SAY BECAUSE I'M A
1:10:56COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO DOESN'T
1:10:57WORK FOR BOEC.
1:10:59>> AND COUNCILOR. I'M HAPPY TO
1:11:00LOOK INTO THAT, BOTH OF THOSE
1:11:02QUESTIONS AND TRY TO GET SOME
1:11:03INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL ON
1:11:04THOSE ISSUES.
1:11:05>> THIS IS JUST A COMMENT, NOT
1:11:07A QUESTION, BUT I WAS REALLY
1:11:08INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU SAID
1:11:09ABOUT DATING TRYING TO GET TO
1:11:1120%. I MEAN, I WAS KIND OF
1:11:12SURPRISED WHEN WE LOOKED AT
1:11:14POLICE CALLS LAST YEAR. AND THE
1:11:16ONLY ONES THAT I, THAT I COULD
1:11:18CONCLUDE CLEARLY HAD NOTHING TO
1:11:19DO WITH CRIME REALLY WERE THE
1:11:20WELFARE CHECK CALLS ARE ABOUT
1:11:226%. SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT ASKING
1:11:24BOEC LIKE HOW MANY OF OUR CALLS
1:11:26ARE BARKING DOGS? NEIGHBOR
1:11:28TROUBLE. ET CETERA. ET CETERA.
1:11:31LET'S SEE ANOTHER QUESTION.
1:11:33>> I LOOK FORWARD TO THE
1:11:34RESULTS.
1:11:35>> YEAH. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD
1:11:37WAS YOU REFERENCED YOU EXPANDED
1:11:40ATTENTION, YOUTH CRISIS,
1:11:41SOMETHING OR OTHER. CAN YOU
1:11:43ELABORATE ON THAT?
1:11:45>> YEAH. A NUMBER OF CITIES.
1:11:47ALBUQUERQUE, DURHAM ACTUALLY
1:11:48HAS AN IN SCHOOLS PROGRAM. AND
1:11:51THEY GO INTO SCHOOLS WHEN
1:11:53THERE'S A CRISIS THAT THE
1:11:55SCHOOL FEELS OVERWHELMED BY. SO
1:12:00I, I DON'T KNOW BEYOND THAT IN
1:12:03TERMS OF THE, THE WORK THAT
1:12:04PORTLAND HAS DONE IN TO DECIDE
1:12:07TO NOT TAKE ON THOSE CALLS. BUT
1:12:09I DO KNOW IT'S WIDESPREAD
1:12:11ACROSS THE NATION. SO OUR
1:12:13RECOMMENDATION IS JUST THAT THE
1:12:14CITY LOOK AT IT AND DECIDE
1:12:16WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS
1:12:17SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE COULD
1:12:19TAKE ON.
1:12:22>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
1:12:24COUNCILOR SMITH.
1:12:25>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
1:12:27THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S GOOD TO
1:12:28SEE YOU IN PERSON. I WANT TO GO
1:12:31BACK TO SOMETHING YOU SAID THAT
1:12:34HOMELESS FOLKS ARE NOT OUR
1:12:36BASIC CLIENTELE AT PSR. BUT I
1:12:38REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A COUNTY
1:12:40COMMISSIONER AND I SAW THAT
1:12:43COMMISSIONER HARDESTY WAS WAS
1:12:45WORKING ON THIS NEW INNOVATIVE
1:12:46PROGRAM, AND IT WAS PSR. I WAS
1:12:48LIKE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
1:12:49SHOULD BE DOING BECAUSE IT'S
1:12:51ABOUT FOLKS WHO HAVE MENTAL
1:12:52HEALTH CHALLENGES. AND THAT'S
1:12:54WHAT WE DO AT MULTNOMAH COUNTY
1:12:56IS TO DO MENTAL HEALTH AND
1:13:00HOMELESSNESS. THIS IS A PROGRAM
1:13:02WE SHOULD BE PAYING FOR. BUT AT
1:13:03THE TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL
1:13:06THE SHELTER MONEY THAT
1:13:08MULTNOMAH COUNTY HAS TODAY. WE
1:13:11HAD NONE OF THAT. AND SO I WANT
1:13:13US TO BE CLEAR, AS CLEAR EYED
1:13:16AS DIRECTORS, MANAGERS AND
1:13:18PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR
1:13:20BOOK OF BUSINESS IS. AND IF OUR
1:13:23BOOK OF BUSINESS IS
1:13:25INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY,
1:13:27AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND
1:13:30IN REGARDS TO YOUR REPORT
1:13:32AROUND YOUTH IN CRISIS, I THINK
1:13:35WE'RE TAKING ON THINGS THAT ARE
1:13:36NOT OUR BOOK OF BUSINESS, THAT
1:13:38WE'RE ADDING TO PSR TO MAKE IT
1:13:43BIGGER THAN WHAT IT WAS
1:13:45ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO DO,
1:13:48WHICH I REMEMBER IT WAS FOLKS
1:13:50WHO ARE HOMELESS, WHO ARE ON
1:13:52OUR CITY STREETS THAT THAT HAVE
1:13:54ISSUES THAT MAYBE OUR POLICE
1:13:57SHOULD NOT HANDLE, BUT SOMEONE
1:13:59LIKE IN PSR SHOULD HANDLE THOSE
1:14:01CALLS. AND SO FOR ME, I DON'T
1:14:03WANT YOU TO BEGIN TO, TO, TO
1:14:05DREAM ON THIS. I, IT SOUNDS
1:14:08LIKE A DREAM BECAUSE YOU'VE PUT
1:14:10ALL YOUR DREAMS THAT YOU WANT
1:14:12PSR TO BE. AND PSR ORIGINALLY
1:14:17WAS DEALING WITH FOLKS WHO WERE
1:14:19HOMELESS, FOLKS WHO HAD MENTAL
1:14:21HEALTH ISSUES. AND I REMEMBER
1:14:23HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WITH
1:14:24MY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. AND SO
1:14:26I WANT US TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF
1:14:28THIS. AND THE QUESTION THAT I
1:14:29HAVE FOR YOU, HOW ARE YOU
1:14:31PLANNING OR HOW HAVE YOU
1:14:33EVALUATED THE SUCCESS OF PSR IN
1:14:37TERMS OF OUR RETURN ON OUR
1:14:39INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE PUT IN?
1:14:40WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WE'VE
1:14:42ACCOMPLISHED WHILE WE'VE HAD IT?
1:14:46NOT NOT THE EXPANSION, BECAUSE
1:14:47I HEAR YOUR EXPANSION NEEDS AND
1:14:49WANTS, BUT I NEED YOU TO TELL
1:14:51ME WHAT HAVE WE ACCOMPLISHED
1:14:52AND WHAT HAVE WE? WHAT HAVE WE
1:14:55RECEIVED FOR OUR INVESTMENT?
1:14:58>> YOU KNOW, I JUST WAS HOPING
1:15:00TO ADDRESS THE THE ORIGIN STORY
1:15:02BECAUSE I THINK OUR ORIGIN
1:15:03STORY OF PSR IS A COMPLICATED
1:15:05ONE, BECAUSE IT DID COME FROM
1:15:08ADVOCACY AROUND HOMELESSNESS. I
1:15:10WAS A PART OF THAT. AND BUT
1:15:12THAT IS NOT WHAT PSR IS. PSR IS
1:15:15PART OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY
1:15:19SERVICE SECTOR AND, AND
1:15:20RESPONDS TO ANYONE IN CRISIS.
1:15:23AND AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
1:15:24WITH THE CALL TYPES, A LOT OF
1:15:26THESE ARE ABOUT DIVERSION SO
1:15:28THAT THE POLICE ACTUALLY ARE
1:15:29ABLE TO TAKE ON THE HIGHER
1:15:30ACUITY CALLS. SO WITH THE YOUTH,
1:15:33WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT DREAMING,
1:15:34I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE TO
1:15:35EMPHASIZE, I THINK I DIDN'T
1:15:37MAKE CLEAR THAT THESE ARE CALLS
1:15:39THAT POLICE WOULD OTHERWISE
1:15:40RESPOND TO. AND THE REASON
1:15:42DAYTON DECIDED TO FOCUS ALL OF
1:15:44ITS MEDIATION ON YOUTH IS THAT
1:15:47YOUTH ISSUES GENERALLY ARE
1:15:49RELATIONAL. THERE'S GENERALLY
1:15:51SOMEONE ELSE'S, GENERALLY AN
1:15:52ADULT. AND HAVING MEDIATION
1:15:55INVOLVED REALLY HELPS THE YOUTH
1:15:57FROM ENTERING INTO THE CARCERAL
1:16:00SYSTEM. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE
1:16:01THAT I DIDN'T MUDDY THAT AS A
1:16:02KIND OF DREAM AS MUCH AS
1:16:04LOOKING AT THE HOLISTIC PUBLIC
1:16:06SAFETY SYSTEM. THE PSR IS ABOUT
1:16:11TO DO AN EVALUATION THAT YOU
1:16:13ALL FUNDED THANKS TO THE 2020
1:16:16526 BUDGET, AND I'LL TURN THAT
1:16:20TO DIRECTOR HOWARD.
1:16:21>> YEAH, I'M HAPPY WE ARE. WE
1:16:22ARE IN THE RFP PROCESS RIGHT
1:16:24NOW. THE PROPOSALS FOR THAT
1:16:26EVALUATION ARE BEING EVALUATED
1:16:28AS WE SPEAK, TO SPEAK TO SOME
1:16:30OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
1:16:31I CAN TELL YOU FROM PREVIOUS
1:16:33TWO EVALUATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
1:16:35CONDUCTED BY PORTLAND STATE
1:16:37UNIVERSITY EVALUATORS. WHAT WE
1:16:38HAVE SEEN IN TERMS OF RETURN ON
1:16:40SERVICES THAT THERE ARE OUR
1:16:42CALL VOLUME RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT
1:16:4514,000 CALLS A YEAR THAT WOULD
1:16:47OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN GOING TO
1:16:48THE POLICE. Q AND, YOU KNOW,
1:16:50LIKELY, AND I SEE CHIEF DAY IS
1:16:52HERE, AND I WOULD INVITE HIM IF
1:16:54HE FEELS LIKE JOINING INTO THE
1:16:56CONVERSATION. BUT BUT I THINK
1:16:58THE THE, THE RETURN ON
1:16:59INVESTMENT IS NOT JUST IMPACTS
1:17:01TO THE CITY, IT'S TO THE ENTIRE
1:17:03COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE COURT
1:17:05SYSTEM, THE, YOU KNOW, JAIL
1:17:07SYSTEM AND TRYING TO DIVERT
1:17:09THOSE CALLS OUT OF THAT SYSTEM.
1:17:12THAT HAS BEEN A HUGE PAYOFF.
1:17:13AND I'M HAPPY TO QUANTIFY THAT.
1:17:15I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS AT MY
1:17:17FINGERTIPS.
1:17:17>> YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND,
1:17:19STEPHANIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH
1:17:20FOR EXPLAINING THAT. AND I AM
1:17:25TRYING TO FIGURE OUT FROM A
1:17:2930,000 FOOT LEVEL OF HOW TO
1:17:32MANAGE THIS $8.6 BILLION BUDGET.
1:17:34I KNOW THAT'S NOT Y'ALL'S
1:17:36PROBLEM. THAT'S MY JOB THAT I
1:17:37GOT ELECTED FOR. BUT I HAVE TO
1:17:39ASK YOU THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE
1:17:40I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ON
1:17:41EVERYBODY ELSE'S JOB FROM THE
1:17:43COURTS, FROM THE FROM THE
1:17:44MULTNOMAH COUNTY AND ALL THESE
1:17:45FOLKS. I WANT TO DO OUR BOOK OF
1:17:47BUSINESS, AND I WANT TO DO OUR
1:17:49BOOK OF BUSINESS. WELL. WE ARE
1:17:50DOING A LOT OF THINGS AT THE
1:17:52CITY OF PORTLAND THAT IS NOT A
1:17:54PART OF OUR BOOK OF BUSINESS OR
1:17:56IN OUR CHARTER. SO FOR ME, WHEN
1:17:58I SEE PEOPLE, WHEN I HEAR
1:17:59PEOPLE SAY EXPANSION AND THEY
1:18:01WILL SAY SMALL NUMBERS
1:18:04INITIALLY, AND THEN THAT NEXT
1:18:05YEAR THEY'LL COME UP WITH A
1:18:06WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF THAT WE
1:18:08DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE HAD TO
1:18:09HAVE THIS. SO NOW WE NEED THESE
1:18:11MANY DOLLARS FOR THIS NEW
1:18:13BUREAU, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE
1:18:15CAUGHT OFF GUARD WITH US
1:18:18BRINGING NEW BOOKS OF BUSINESS
1:18:20INTO THE CITY OF PORTLAND. I
1:18:22WANT FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO GET
1:18:25THE SERVICES THAT YOU ALL ARE
1:18:26OFFERING AND HAVE THE
1:18:28APPROPRIATE PEOPLE PAY FOR
1:18:29THOSE SERVICES, AND I THINK
1:18:30THOSE SERVICES SHOULD BE COMING
1:18:32FROM MULTNOMAH COUNTY. I THINK
1:18:35THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THEY SHOULD
1:18:37BE COMING FROM. WE HAVE BEEN A
1:18:39REALLY GOOD NEIGHBOR AND DOING
1:18:43ADDITIONAL SHELTER WORK, DOING
1:18:46ADDITIONAL CLEANUP WORK AS A
1:18:48RESULT OF OUR COMMITMENT TO
1:18:51KEEPING THE CITY CLEAN AND SAFE.
1:18:53BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY,
1:18:54WITHOUT OUR ARPA MONEY, AND
1:18:56THAT'S HOW YOU ALL EVOLVED.
1:18:58WITHOUT OUR ARPA MONEY, YOU
1:19:00WOULDN'T BE HERE AND WE
1:19:02WOULDN'T HAVE THESE SERVICES
1:19:03AND IT WOULDN'T. AND I AND I'M
1:19:05SAYING THIS BECAUSE MULTNOMAH
1:19:09COUNTY WOULD HAVE BEEN FORCED
1:19:10TO ACTUALLY DO THIS WORK
1:19:12BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE MONEY FOR
1:19:14IT. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT
1:19:17EXTRA $300 MILLION EVERY YEAR
1:19:20TO DO THIS. AND SO WHEN YOU
1:19:22TALK ABOUT THIS, YOU'RE TALKING
1:19:24ABOUT HOMELESSNESS. THIS IS
1:19:24WHAT I HEAR WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
1:19:27PSR. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
1:19:28MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS. MULTNOMAH
1:19:30COUNTY IS THE PUBLIC HEALTH
1:19:31AUTHORITY. AND SO MY QUESTION
1:19:33TO YOU IS, HAVE YOU TRIED TO GO
1:19:35TO MULTNOMAH COUNTY AND SAY, WE
1:19:37NEED TO PARTNER WITH THIS?
1:19:38BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE CITY
1:19:40OF PORTLAND CAN DO THIS ALONE.
1:19:42I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT WE
1:19:43CAN OR THAT WE WE HAVE. THAT WE
1:19:48HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO THIS
1:19:51ALONE. AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE
1:19:52PEOPLE A FALSE IMPRESSION BY
1:19:54HAVING THIS REPORT, JUST LIKE
1:19:58THE POLICE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY
1:20:01SERVICE AREA, THEY CAME AND
1:20:02BROUGHT US A REPORT ABOUT WHAT
1:20:04IT WOULD. WHAT COULD WE DO IF
1:20:06WE HAD ADDITIONAL RESOURCES?
1:20:08THAT'S HOW THEY COUCHED IT. IF
1:20:10THEY HAD ADDITIONAL RESOURCES,
1:20:12WHERE WOULD THEY SPEND IT? AND
1:20:14YOU SAW THE REPORT THAT THE
1:20:16POLICE PUT OUT. YOU ALL ARE
1:20:18COMING WITH A DIRECT ASK OF AN
1:20:21EXPANSION. NOT IF WE HAD X, Y,
1:20:23Z DOLLARS. THIS IS WHAT WE CAN
1:20:25DO MORE. IT IS LIKE, THIS IS
1:20:27WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO. THIS IS
1:20:29THE CODE WE WANT YOU TO CHANGE.
1:20:30AND WHAT I'M SAYING, CHANGING
1:20:32CODE IS, IS MAKING OUR BOOK OF
1:20:34BUSINESS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT
1:20:36WAS. AND SO UNTIL WE FIND A
1:20:39STREAM OF FUNDING, I DON'T KNOW
1:20:42HOW WE DO THIS AND I DON'T WANT
1:20:44TO I DON'T WANT TO GET PEOPLE I
1:20:46DON'T WANT TO GIVE FOLKS FALSE
1:20:47HOPE BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU,
1:20:49UNLESS YOU TELL ME, WHERE ARE
1:20:50YOU GOING TO GET THIS MONEY
1:20:51FROM? OR WE SHOULD TAKE THIS
1:20:53MONEY FROM? I'M NOT PUTTING ANY
1:20:54MORE ONE TIME ONLY MONIES IN AN
1:20:56EXPANSION. I'M NOT. I'M NOT
1:20:57GOING TO GO FOR IT.
1:20:59>> YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN,
1:21:00COUNSELOR. I APPRECIATE IT. AND
1:21:02I THINK JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS
1:21:03TO TO FLAG. NUMBER ONE, OUR
1:21:05BUDGET WAS MADE ONGOING LAST
1:21:06YEAR REGARDLESS. AND SO OUR
1:21:08THIS BUDGET IS AN ONGOING
1:21:10BUDGET. NUMBER TWO, PORTLAND
1:21:11STREET RESPONSE'S CALLS ARE ALL
1:21:13GENERATED FROM 911. THEY WOULD
1:21:15GO TO POLICE IF NOT PORTLAND
1:21:17STREET RESPONSE. AND SO THAT
1:21:19THAT DOESN'T.
1:21:20>> POLICE WOULD BE EXPANDED,
1:21:21NOT PSR. IF IT WOULD GO THE
1:21:23NORMAL WAY THAT IT WOULD
1:21:24GENERALLY GO.
1:21:25>> I THINK YOU MIGHT I WOULD I
1:21:26WOULD, YOU KNOW, WELCOME A
1:21:28DEEPER CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
1:21:29BUT I ALSO DO WANT TO TALK TO
1:21:31MENTION LIKE THIS COMMITTEE WAS
1:21:32FORMED TO MAKE THIS
1:21:33RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. AND
1:21:35SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LOST
1:21:37THAT THEY'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT
1:21:38COUNCIL ASKED THEM TO DO IN
1:21:40BRINGING FORWARD THESE
1:21:41RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT SORT OF
1:21:42CREATING SOMETHING FROM WHOLE
1:21:44CLOTH TO BRING AN ASK. THEY
1:21:45WERE ASKED TO DO THE WORK THAT
1:21:47THEY ARE PRODUCING FOR YOU NOW.
1:21:49AND SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND
1:21:51YOUR POINTS.
1:21:52>> COUNCILOR WHEN YOU BRING ME
1:21:53SOMETHING THAT SAYS YOU ONLY
1:21:55NEED $135,000, I DON'T BELIEVE
1:21:56IT, STEPHANIE.
1:21:58>> AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE MORE
1:22:00CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ABOUT
1:22:01THAT.
1:22:01>> THANK YOU.
1:22:03>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR
1:22:04COUNCILOR KANAL.
1:22:06>> WOW. LOOKING FORWARD. I'M
1:22:10EXCITED TO GET STARTED ON THIS
1:22:11WORK, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE
1:22:13LOW BUDGET IMPACT. AND WHEN I
1:22:14ASK A QUESTION AND I GET AN
1:22:16ANSWER, I ACTUALLY AM
1:22:17APPRECIATIVE THAT THERE WAS AN
1:22:18ANSWER 144,000, NOT MILLION
1:22:21THOUSAND. AND THAT'S A THAT'S A
1:22:23REALLY HELPFUL PIECE OF
1:22:24INFORMATION TO HAVE GOING
1:22:26FORWARD. I WANT TO APPRECIATE
1:22:29THAT IT IS NOT. WE DID NOT ASK
1:22:31ANYONE ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAIS
1:22:33TO TELL US WHAT TO CUT TO FUND
1:22:34PSR. THAT'S NOT YOUR JOB, AND I
1:22:36DON'T WANT TO ASK YOU TO DO
1:22:38SOMETHING THAT'S NOT YOUR JOB.
1:22:39THAT'S OUR JOB AS CITY
1:22:41COUNCILORS, AS LEGISLATORS, AS
1:22:42THE BUDGET AUTHORITY TO FIGURE
1:22:43OUT WHAT TO CUT. I'M INTERESTED
1:22:45IN DOING THAT JOB BECAUSE WE DO
1:22:46NOT HAVE $170 MILLION DEFICIT.
1:22:48WE HAVE A MUCH SMALLER DEFICIT.
1:22:49WE HAVE $100 MILLION OR SO OF
1:22:51ONGOING PROGRAMS WHICH ARE
1:22:52DESIGNED TO SUNSET EACH YEAR.
1:22:54AND THE MAYOR ASKED TO RETAIN
1:22:56THOSE PROGRAMS AND CONTINUE
1:22:58THEM. THAT'S NOT A DEFICIT.
1:22:59THAT'S A REQUEST FOR EXPANSION
1:23:01OF A PROGRAM DESIGNED TO SUNSET
1:23:03AT THE END OF ONE FISCAL YEAR
1:23:04INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AND
1:23:06WE CAN SAY NO TO THAT AS AN
1:23:08EXPANSION, THE SAME WAY WE CAN
1:23:09SAY NO TO CONTINUING ANY
1:23:10PROGRAM. OBVIOUSLY, IF THE
1:23:11MAYOR DOES CHOOSE TO PROPOSE
1:23:13RETAINING THOSE PROGRAMS, HE
1:23:14WOULD PROPOSE WHAT TO CUT IN
1:23:15HIS PROPOSED BUDGET. NOW, OF
1:23:17COURSE, IF THERE'S THE FAIR
1:23:18SHARE TAX PASSES OR ANOTHER
1:23:20REVENUE SOURCE IS IS CREATED,
1:23:22THEN THAT CONVERSATION IS
1:23:23DIFFERENT. BUT EVEN OTHERWISE,
1:23:25WE DO HAVE PLACES TO LOOK FOR
1:23:26THE REAL DEFICIT AS WELL AS TO
1:23:28TAKE A CRITICAL EYE TO WHETHER
1:23:30OR NOT TO RETAIN PROGRAMS INTO
1:23:31A FOLLOWING YEAR THAT WERE
1:23:32DESIGNED TO BE ONE TIME, THE
1:23:34BULK OF WHICH ARE IN PORTLAND
1:23:36SOLUTIONS, WHICH IS THE THING
1:23:37THAT'S BREAKING OUR BUDGET
1:23:38RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK IT'S THE
1:23:40QUESTION THAT WAS POSED EARLIER
1:23:42OF WHERE TO LOOK FOR THE MONEY
1:23:43IS WAS ANSWERED IN THE QUESTION
1:23:45ITSELF. WRIT LARGE. I THINK
1:23:48IT'S FAIR TO TO OBSERVE THAT
1:23:50THERE ARE ATTEMPTS TO DIMINISH
1:23:52THIS PROGRAM BY FORCING IT TO
1:23:53CORRESPOND, BY FORCING IT TO BE
1:23:55A PART OF HOMELESSNESS SERVICES,
1:23:56BY MAKING IT HAVE A PHONE
1:23:58NUMBER THAT IS NOT 911, BY
1:23:59MAKING IT A PART OF THE COUNTY,
1:24:01BY MAKING IT A NONPROFIT OR
1:24:02SOME NEW IDEA. AND IT'S
1:24:04IMPORTANT FOR US TO NAME THAT.
1:24:05THESE ARE CYNICAL ATTEMPTS TO
1:24:06JUST ZERO OUT PSR, AND WE HAVE
1:24:08TO NAME IT SO THAT WE CAN
1:24:10COMBAT IT. BECAUSE EVEN WHEN
1:24:12NAMING IT, WE'RE NOTICING, AND
1:24:13I'M OBSERVING AS WELL, THAT THE
1:24:15ARGUMENT WAS MADE THAT THE
1:24:16REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS
1:24:18IS SO WE CAN EXPAND A DIFFERENT
1:24:20BUREAU, AS OPPOSED TO
1:24:21EVALUATING PSR FOR WHAT IT IS.
1:24:22BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO
1:24:24RELITIGATE THAT, BECAUSE WE
1:24:25ACTUALLY ALREADY PASSED THIS
1:24:26LAST YEAR IN JUNE. THE THE
1:24:29POSITION OF THIS COUNCIL HAS
1:24:31BEEN ESTABLISHED, AND IT
1:24:33INCLUDES THAT PSR IS NOT A
1:24:35HEALTH CARE PROGRAM. PSR IS NOT
1:24:36A HOMELESSNESS SERVICES PROGRAM.
1:24:37IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONDER
1:24:39FOR PEOPLE IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
1:24:41CRISIS, LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO
1:24:43HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES EARLIER
1:24:44THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR BECAUSE
1:24:46THEY DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT
1:24:48RESPONDER GOING TO THOSE CALLS.
1:24:49NOW THERE IS AN OVERLAP BETWEEN
1:24:51HOMELESSNESS AND BEHAVIORAL
1:24:51HEALTH, BUT IT IS A VENN
1:24:52DIAGRAM, NOT A SINGLE CIRCLE.
1:24:54AND I ALSO WANT TO OBSERVE THAT
1:24:56THERE IS A PATTERN OF APPLYING
1:24:57STANDARDS THAT ARE FAIR FOR
1:24:58EVERYONE, BUT APPLYING THEM
1:25:00ONLY TO THINGS THAT ARE DOING
1:25:01THE HELPING AND NOT THE THINGS
1:25:02THAT ARE DOING THE HARMING. I
1:25:04WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE SAME
1:25:05STANDARD OF EVALUATION APPLIED
1:25:07TO PORTLAND SOLUTIONS. IS IT
1:25:09ACCOMPLISHING ITS STATED GOALS
1:25:10THAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE FOR
1:25:12PSR? BECAUSE PSR IS PASSING
1:25:14THAT TEST, AND THAT'S NOT
1:25:15COMING FROM ME, AND THAT'S NOT
1:25:17COMING FROM ANYBODY ON THAT
1:25:18SIDE OF THE DAIS. IT'S COMING
1:25:19FROM MULTIPLE EXTERNAL
1:25:20EVALUATIONS. AND AGAIN,
1:25:23PORTLAND SOLUTIONS IS A STREAM
1:25:25OF FUNDING THAT WE ARE LOOKING
1:25:26FOR. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING THERE
1:25:28BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO ASSIST
1:25:30US IN ACHIEVING THE GOALS OF
1:25:31THIS PROGRAM. NOW, I LOOKING
1:25:34FORWARD AT THIS, I'M EXCITED TO
1:25:36FIRST JUST, YOU KNOW, ACCEPT
1:25:37THE REPORT TODAY AND APPRECIATE
1:25:39THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO IT.
1:25:41BUT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION
1:25:42AND TO BE HONEST ABOUT THE FACT
1:25:43THAT TURNING SOMETHING INTO A
1:25:45BUREAU, IMPLEMENTING THE
1:25:47RECOMMENDATIONS HAS A SMALLER
1:25:48PRICE TAG, AND THEN WHAT THAT
1:25:50ENABLES WILL, MAY POSSIBLY HAVE
1:25:52OTHER PRICES DOWN THE LINE.
1:25:54EVENTUALLY. IF PSR WERE TO
1:25:56TRIPLE ITS STAFF, OBVIOUSLY
1:25:57THAT WOULD COST MORE THAN
1:25:59144,000. IF IT GOES UP BY
1:26:00DOUBLE, IT WOULD INCREASE ALSO,
1:26:02JUST NOT BY AS MUCH. THOSE ARE
1:26:04CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE TO HAVE
1:26:05LATER AND SEE WHERE WE WANT TO
1:26:06GO, BUT THE FIRST STEP IS
1:26:08ENSURING THAT IT IS PROTECTED
1:26:10BECAUSE IT HAS LIVED AS AN
1:26:11EXTENDED PILOT FOR FAR TOO LONG,
1:26:14AND WE NEED TO MAKE IT A
1:26:15PERMANENT PART OF OUR PUBLIC
1:26:17SAFETY SYSTEM. AND THAT'S, I
1:26:18THINK, WHAT YOUR
1:26:19RECOMMENDATIONS DO A BIG PART
1:26:22OF ACHIEVING, AND I'M EXCITED
1:26:23TO ACCEPT THOSE BUILD UPON THEM
1:26:24AND AND APPRECIATE THE WORK AS
1:26:26WE KEEP GOING. THANK YOU.
1:26:28>> COUNCILOR. MORILLO.
1:26:33>> SORRY YOU CAUGHT ME MID NOSE
1:26:34BLOW. YEAH, I WANT TO SAY
1:26:39THANKS AGAIN TO THE FOLKS WHO
1:26:41PRESENTED TODAY BECAUSE AGAIN,
1:26:42IT WAS COUNCIL THAT DIRECTED
1:26:43YOU TO BRING US RECOMMENDATIONS.
1:26:45SO YOU HAVE FULFILLED YOUR
1:26:47DUTIES AND BRINGING US THOSE
1:26:49RECOMMENDATIONS. AND I JUST
1:26:50WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT
1:26:52PORTLAND STREET RESPONSE WAS
1:26:53ALSO SORT OF CREATED DURING A
1:26:55TIME WHERE POLICE WERE
1:26:57RESPONDING TO MENTAL HEALTH
1:26:58CRISIS CALLS, AND THEY HAD
1:27:01KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE WHO
1:27:02EXPERIENCED MENTAL HEALTH
1:27:03CRISIS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT
1:27:05THEY ARE NOT THE APPROPRIATE
1:27:07RESPONDER. SO, SURE, WE COULD
1:27:09BEEF UP THE POLICE BUREAU MORE,
1:27:10BUT THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE
1:27:11FACT THAT THESE CALLS EXIST.
1:27:13SOMEONE HAS TO RESPOND TO THEM.
1:27:15THE PUBLIC WANTS SOMEBODY TO
1:27:17RESPOND TO THEM, AND THERE IS A
1:27:18RIGHT PERSON TO DO THAT WORK.
1:27:22SO I DON'T WANT TO GLAZE OVER
1:27:25THAT. AND THE OTHER THING THAT
1:27:26I WILL ADD IS THAT THIS ISN'T
1:27:28JUST A HOMELESSNESS CRISIS
1:27:29RESPONSE. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO
1:27:30ARE HOUSED, WHO ALSO EXPERIENCE
1:27:32MENTAL HEALTH CRISES, AND SOME
1:27:34OF THEM ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO
1:27:36HAVE A SUPPORTIVE FAMILY THAT
1:27:37ENDS UP BRINGING THEM HOME
1:27:39LATER. BUT THOSE MENTAL HEALTH
1:27:41CRISES HAPPEN IN PUBLIC STREETS
1:27:43AS WELL. AND PORTLAND STREET
1:27:44RESPONSE WOULD BE RESPONDING TO
1:27:46HOUSED AND UNHOUSED PEOPLE
1:27:47ALIKE. SO THIS IS A PROGRAM
1:27:49THAT SERVES EVERYBODY IN OUR
1:27:51SOCIETY. IT'S JUST THAT
1:27:52HOUSELESS PEOPLE ARE MORE
1:27:54VISIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO A LOT
1:27:56OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY DEAL
1:27:57WITH, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A
1:27:58PRIVATE RESIDENCE TO DEAL WITH
1:28:00THOSE PROBLEMS. RIGHT. THE
1:28:02OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS I THINK
1:28:03THERE WERE SOME ALLUSIONS TO
1:28:05LIKE NEW OFFICES BEING CREATED
1:28:07AND THAT COSTING US A LOT. I
1:28:10WILL SAY IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY
1:28:11GAVE US A NUMBER FOR HOW MUCH
1:28:13IT'S ESTIMATED TO COST. AND
1:28:15THIS IS A BUREAU WHICH IS A
1:28:17LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN AN
1:28:18OFFICE, I WOULD SAY. BUT WITH
1:28:20THE DATA PRIVACY OFFICE, THERE
1:28:22WAS NO INCREASE IN COST. I JUST
1:28:25VERIFIED WITH MY FINANCIAL
1:28:26ANALYST TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T
1:28:28HALLUCINATING. BUT WE WERE
1:28:29REALLY CAREFUL WHEN WE CREATED
1:28:30THAT TO ENSURE THAT IT WOULDN'T
1:28:33CREATE ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR THE
1:28:34CITY BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET
1:28:35CRUNCH THAT WE'RE IN. SO THE
1:28:37THE COST OF THIS IS PRETTY
1:28:40NOMINAL, AROUND $144,000 IS
1:28:44SOMETHING THAT WE WE HAVE WE
1:28:46CAN FIND IN THE CITY BUDGET.
1:28:47AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE A
1:28:49RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND IT
1:28:50BECAUSE WE JUST NEED TO SEND
1:28:52THE RIGHT RESPONSE OR RESPONDER
1:28:53TO THE RIGHT CALL. THE OTHER
1:28:55REASON I THINK THAT THIS REALLY
1:28:57DOES BELONG AT THE CITY AND NOT
1:28:59AT THE COUNTY, IS BECAUSE IT
1:29:00NEEDS TO FALL WITHIN OUR 911
1:29:02SYSTEM. PORTLAND STREET
1:29:04RESPONSE DOES NOT JUST, DO YOU
1:29:07KNOW, RANDOM OUTREACH TO
1:29:08CONNECT PEOPLE TO SERVICES. IT
1:29:11IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, OKAY,
1:29:12SOMEONE IS HAVING A MENTAL
1:29:13HEALTH CRISIS. THEY ARE
1:29:14STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
1:29:16ROAD BLOCKING TRAFFIC FOR
1:29:17EVERYBODY, AND THEY DON'T HAVE
1:29:18THE WHEREWITHAL TO PUT GET
1:29:20THEMSELVES OUT OF DANGER OR
1:29:21STOP BLOCKING THE ROAD OR
1:29:23WHATEVER. RIGHT? THAT IS A 911
1:29:25CALL, AND THAT 911 CALL FALLS
1:29:28UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY.
1:29:31SO OUR ROLE IS TO DECIDE
1:29:33>> WHO GETS THAT CALL, WHO
1:29:35ANSWERS WHAT TRAINING THEY HAVE.
1:29:37DO THEY SHOW UP WITH A GUN? DO
1:29:39THEY NOT SHOW UP WITH A GUN?
1:29:41ALL OF THAT IS PART OF AN
1:29:42EMERGENCY RESPONSE SYSTEM. AND
1:29:43THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT
1:29:45THAN JUST DOING GENERAL DAY TO
1:29:46DAY OUTREACH. WHEN THERE ISN'T
1:29:48A 911 CALL LEVEL THREAT
1:29:50HAPPENING. SO THAT'S SORT OF
1:29:51WHY I IT WAS CREATED WITHIN 901.
1:29:55THAT'S WHY POLICE COULDN'T
1:29:57RESPOND TO IT. AND, AND FRANKLY,
1:30:00I DON'T THINK POLICE SHOULD
1:30:01HAVE TO. THAT'S A LOT OF
1:30:03ADDITIONAL TRAINING. THAT'S A
1:30:04LOT OF ADDITIONAL MAYBE EVEN
1:30:07COLLEGE EDUCATION THAT SOMEONE
1:30:08SHOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THAT TYPE
1:30:10OF CALL. AND THEY NEED TO
1:30:13ACTUALLY BE FREED UP TO ADDRESS
1:30:15VIOLENT CRIME, THEFT WHEN
1:30:17SOMEONE'S CAR GETS STOLEN. WE
1:30:19NEED POLICE TO BE ABLE TO
1:30:20FOLLOW UP ON THAT. WE NEED MORE
1:30:22DETECTIVES. I THINK AS
1:30:23COUNCILOR, NOVICK AND COUNCILOR
1:30:24KANAL HAVE POINTED OUT, THAT
1:30:25TYPE OF WORK NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
1:30:27BUT THEY CAN'T DO THAT IF THEY
1:30:29ARE RESPONDING TO CALLS THAT
1:30:30THEY ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE.
1:30:34SO AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE
1:30:35PRESENTERS FOR COMING HERE FOR
1:30:38MONTHS LONG WORK, PUTTING ALL
1:30:39OF THIS TOGETHER FOR US. WE'RE
1:30:41VERY LUCKY TO HAVE PEOPLE TAKE
1:30:43TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO DO
1:30:44THAT. AND I APPRECIATE YOU
1:30:46CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS,
1:30:47STEPHANIE. THANK YOU AS WELL
1:30:48FOR FOR CRUNCHING ALL OF THAT
1:30:49FOR US. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE
1:30:52ANY FURTHER BREAKDOWNS YOU WANT
1:30:53US TO LOOK AT, FEEL FREE TO
1:30:55EMAIL IT TO OUR OFFICES. BUT I
1:30:56TRUST THE NUMBERS THAT YOU PUT
1:30:58FORWARD. SO THANK YOU.
1:30:59>> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR. I'M
1:31:01GOING TO SHUT THIS DOWN AT 11
1:31:03SO WE CAN TAKE A BREAK AND THEN
1:31:04GET TO BODY-WORN CAMERAS. BUT
1:31:06COUNCILOR SMITH, DO YOU HAVE A
1:31:07MINUTE?
1:31:08>> I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
1:31:09SO I'D LIKE YOU TO DO ONE THING
1:31:11FOR ME.
1:31:12>> DIRECTOR HOWARD, I'D LIKE
1:31:14YOU TO TELL ME, BECAUSE THE
1:31:15RECOMMENDATION IS TO HAVE PSR
1:31:18GO 24 HOURS. COULD YOU PLEASE
1:31:19PUT IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION WHAT
1:31:21IT WOULD COST TO BRING NEW
1:31:22PEOPLE ON AND PUT THAT NUMBER
1:31:24WITH YOUR $145,000 NUMBER? SO I
1:31:28CAN SEE THE WHOLE NUMBER WITH
1:31:30THE RECOMMENDATION TO GO 24
1:31:32HOURS. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. I'M
1:31:35SEEING SOMETHING IN MY HEAD AND
1:31:36I KNOW GOOD AND WELL, IT'S
1:31:38GOING TO BE MORE THAN 145
1:31:39BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO PAY
1:31:40WITH BENEFITS AND FOR ONE
1:31:42PERSON. BUT IF YOU COULD PLEASE.
1:31:49CALCULATE WHAT IT WOULD COST
1:31:51FOR PERSONNEL IN ADDITION TO
1:31:54THE MONIES THAT YOU'VE ALREADY
1:31:56IDENTIFIED, WHAT IT WOULD COST,
1:31:57THE WHOLE NUMBER. THAT'S WHAT
1:31:59I'M ASKING FOR.
1:32:00>> YEAH. HAPPY TO COUNCILOR.
1:32:02AND WE HAVE OUR EXPANSION PLAN
1:32:03THAT WE CREATED EARLIER THIS
1:32:04YEAR. I CAN SEND THAT TO YOU.
1:32:06IT HAS THAT.
1:32:07>> OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU.
1:32:08>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR
1:32:10COUNCILOR KANAL.
1:32:11>> THANKS. AT THE AT THE RISK
1:32:13OF STEALING YOUR THUNDER WITH A
1:32:14POP CULTURE REFERENCE.
1:32:15COUNCILOR. NOVICK. THERE'S A
1:32:16AND AT THE RISK OF OF
1:32:18ALIENATING ALANIS MORISSETTE,
1:32:19WE HAVE 10,000 KNIVES WHEN ALL
1:32:21WE NEED IS A SPOON. AND WHEN
1:32:24YOU ARE TRYING TO EAT SOUP, IT
1:32:25DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY KNIVES
1:32:27YOU GET, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW
1:32:28MANY FORKS YOU GET, YOU JUST
1:32:30NEED ONE SPOON. AND SO TRYING
1:32:32TO GET THE RIGHT RESPONDER FOR
1:32:33THE TYPES OF CALLS THAT ONLY
1:32:35YOU CAN DO AT PSR IS THE KEY
1:32:39PIECE THAT WE'RE MISSING IN
1:32:40TERMS OF IDENTIFYING WHAT THE
1:32:41PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE
1:32:43IS. SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO PUT
1:32:45A FINER POINT ON THAT AND, AND
1:32:47KIND OF CONTINUE TO COMMIT TO,
1:32:49TO THE DIVERSITY OF OPTIONS IN
1:32:51SILVERWARE DRAWERS AS WELL AS
1:32:53IN THE PSA. THANKS.
1:32:55>> THANK YOU. COUNSELOR. THAT
1:32:56REMINDS ME, I'VE BEEN MEANING
1:32:57TO ASK THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
1:32:58HAVE A WORK SESSION DISCUSSING
1:33:00HOW MUCH DAMAGE ALANIS
1:33:01MORISSETTE DID TO THE ENGLISH
1:33:02LANGUAGE WITH THAT SONG. ISN'T
1:33:03IT IRONIC ABOUT ALL THESE
1:33:04THINGS THAT WEREN'T IRONIC?
1:33:05THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I REALLY
1:33:07APPRECIATE THIS. AND I REALIZE
1:33:09YOU'VE BEEN SORT OF CAUGHT UP
1:33:10INTO COUNCIL DISCUSSIONS, WHICH
1:33:12WE NEED TO RESOLVE OURSELVES
1:33:13AND CAN ASK YOU TO RESOLVE. BUT
1:33:15ONE THING I WANT TO SAY IS I
1:33:16REALLY APPRECIATE THE WHAT THE
1:33:19WHAT YOU'VE DONE LOOKING AT
1:33:20OTHER CITIES. AND I WANT TO
1:33:22FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND TALK
1:33:23ABOUT WHO DO WE TALK TO IN
1:33:25DAYTON? WHO DO WE TALK TO IN
1:33:27MINNEAPOLIS? BECAUSE I THINK
1:33:28THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED
1:33:29TO DO MORE OF. THANK YOU VERY
1:33:31MUCH. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO
1:33:32TAKE A 15 MINUTE RECESS AND
1:33:34THEN TALK ABOUT BODY WORN
1:33:36CAMERAS. SO CAN PEOPLE BE BACK
1:33:39AT 1114?
1:49:50I DIDN'T SEE IT.
1:49:54>> OH.
1:49:58>> ALL RIGHT. I'VE LET THINGS
1:49:59SLIP TILL 1115. WHEN I SAID
1:50:011114. COULD THE CLERK PLEASE
1:50:02CALL THE NEXT ITEM?
1:50:06>> DOCUMENT NUMBER 2026-379.
1:50:11PROCEDURES FOR THE RELEASE OF
1:50:12BODY WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE
1:50:14DISCUSSION.
1:50:17>> PLEASE PROCEED.
1:50:21>> GOOD MORNING COUNCILORS BOB
1:50:24DAY, CHIEF OF POLICE. JOINING
1:50:25ME IS MIKE BENNER, OUR COMMS
1:50:28MANAGER FOR THE POLICE BUREAU.
1:50:30AND WE ARE GOING TO WALK
1:50:32THROUGH SOME A LITTLE BIT OF
1:50:34HISTORY WITH THE BODY WORN
1:50:35CAMERA PROGRAM AND THEN SPEAK
1:50:37DIRECTLY TO OUR SOP REGARDING
1:50:40THE RELEASE OF INFORMATION
1:50:42DURING CRITICAL INCIDENTS. AND
1:50:43THEN I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HEAR
1:50:45FROM PCCEP AND WE'LL HAVE SOME
1:50:46CHANCE FOR SOME Q&A, I BELIEVE.
1:50:48SO GO AHEAD BREE. NEXT SLIDE
1:50:50PLEASE. SO JUST A QUICK
1:50:53OVERVIEW. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE
1:50:55LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN
1:50:57WHAT THE CAMERAS ARE FOR AND
1:50:59THE CONTEXT ON THE SIDE. ON THE
1:51:01RIGHT SIDE, THEY'RE KIND OF
1:51:02GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE
1:51:05HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT HERE. OH,
1:51:07I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT
1:51:08THIS, THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE
1:51:10LOOKING AT THESE, THESE FOUR
1:51:12SLIDES, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF
1:51:13MINOR CHANGES MADE THIS MORNING
1:51:15JUST BECAUSE WE GOT SOME
1:51:17CLARIFICATION ON THEM FROM WHAT
1:51:18WAS ORIGINALLY SENT OVER.
1:51:19>> THEY'RE WORKING OFF OF THE
1:51:20NEWEST.
1:51:21>> THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT.
1:51:22OKAY. SO THIS IS THE ORIGINAL
1:51:23ONE.
1:51:24>> NO, THIS IS THE NEWEST ONE.
1:51:25>> THIS IS THE NEW ONE. OKAY,
1:51:27GOOD. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU.
1:51:28SORRY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
1:51:30SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE, I GUESS
1:51:32ON THE LEFT SIDE WHAT THEY'RE
1:51:33USED FOR. THE HIGHLIGHT THAT I
1:51:35WOULD PLACE AT THE BOTTOM THERE
1:51:36IS IT'S A PIECE OF EVIDENCE
1:51:38FROM ONE VANTAGE POINT.
1:51:39OFTENTIMES WE THINK WE HAVE A
1:51:40CAMERA ANGLE. AND SO WE JUST
1:51:42KNOW EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.
1:51:43IT'S JUST A SINGLE PIECE OF
1:51:44EVIDENCE FROM ONE VANTAGE POINT
1:51:46ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, GIVES A
1:51:47LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY.
1:51:49WE'RE GOING TO DIVE INTO THAT A
1:51:50LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT, YOU KNOW,
1:51:52GOING BACK TO THE SETTLEMENT
1:51:53AGREEMENT, THE CONTEXT OF BODY
1:51:54WORN CAMERAS WITHIN THE
1:51:55SETTLEMENT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT
1:51:56IS IMPORTANT. AS WE TALK ABOUT
1:51:58THE POLICY AND THE APPLICATION
1:51:59OF IT, WE BEGAN STUDYING. WELL,
1:52:00GO AHEAD IN THE NEXT SLIDE. WE
1:52:04ACTUALLY BEGAN HAVING SOME
1:52:06CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BODY WORN
1:52:07CAMERAS. AS YOU CAN SEE DOWN AT
1:52:08THE BOTTOM, YOU KNOW, WELL,
1:52:102014, 2015, THAT FIRST BULLET
1:52:13AT THE TOP AND THEN DOWN BELOW
1:52:152015, WE HOSTED A NUMBER OF
1:52:17COMMUNITY FORUMS. 21 POLLING
1:52:20SHOWED HIGH PERCENTAGE OF
1:52:21PORTLANDERS WANTING US TO HAVE
1:52:23CAMERAS, SEVERAL PETITIONS,
1:52:24INCLUDING FROM VARIOUS CIVIL
1:52:25RIGHTS GROUPS. IT TOOK A LITTLE
1:52:29BIT A WHILE THERE, BUT YOU CAN
1:52:30SEE IN APRIL OF 22, JUDGE SIMON
1:52:33ACCEPTS AN AMENDMENT TO THE TO
1:52:35THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, BODY
1:52:37WORN CAMERAS BECAME COURT
1:52:39REQUIRED. AND IF YOU MOVE DOWN
1:52:41TO THE END AND. JUNE AUGUST OF
1:52:442024, WE BEGAN THE EXCUSE ME,
1:52:47THE IMPLEMENTATION OF BODY WORN
1:52:49CAMERAS. SO, YOU KNOW, ABOUT
1:52:52TEN YEARS, MORE OR LESS OF THE
1:52:54POLICE BUREAU LOOKING AT THIS
1:52:55IN DIFFERENT ITERATIONS TO GET
1:52:57IT OFF THE GROUND IN FULL
1:53:00IMPLEMENTATION IN THE SUMMER OF
1:53:0224. GO AHEAD. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
1:53:06SO THE BODY WORN CAMERA PROGRAM,
1:53:08THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE
1:53:11PROCESSES WE USE AUTOMATICALLY
1:53:14ACTIVATES WHEN YOU CAN SEE
1:53:15EMERGENCY LIGHTS ARE ACTIVATED,
1:53:17A FIREARM IS DRAWN, ETC. THOSE
1:53:19ARE IMMEDIATE ACTIVATIONS.
1:53:22MIDDLE CATEGORY TALKS ABOUT
1:53:23WHEN OFFICERS MUST ACTIVATE. IF
1:53:25IN FACT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF
1:53:26THOSE THINGS DON'T
1:53:28AUTOMATICALLY TAKE PLACE. AND
1:53:30THEN THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES
1:53:33BUILT IN FOR, YOU KNOW, WHETHER
1:53:34WE HAVE THE CAMERA ON OR OFF
1:53:37DURING, YOU KNOW, SENSITIVE
1:53:39INTERVIEWS, ATTORNEY CLIENT
1:53:41CONVERSATIONS, SOME BASIC, YOU
1:53:42KNOW, ROLL CALL TRAINING, ETC.
1:53:44THE ENTIRE BODY WORN CAMERA
1:53:46POLICY WAS PART OF A
1:53:48NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE PBA. SO
1:53:49IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, PART OF
1:53:51THE CBA AS WE LOOK AT IT. AND
1:53:54SO THESE WERE SOME OF THE STEPS
1:53:56THAT WE NEGOTIATED AND AGREED
1:53:59TO WITH THE PBA. ACCOUNTABILITY
1:54:01IS BUILT IN AT THE END THERE
1:54:03YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ANNOUNCED
1:54:04THAT WE ARE RECORDING. THAT'S
1:54:05REQUIRED IN OREGON RECORD
1:54:07SOMEBODY. WE NEED TO LET THEM
1:54:08KNOW WE'RE RECORDING THEM AND
1:54:11THEN WE CAN BEFORE STOPPING
1:54:13STATE. THE REASON. SO THAT'S
1:54:15THAT'S DOCUMENTED COMMUNITY
1:54:18MEMBERS REQUEST ALONE DOES NOT
1:54:19END THE RECORDING. BUT
1:54:21OBVIOUSLY, GOING BACK UP TO
1:54:22THAT, THE PARAGRAPH ON THE
1:54:25RIGHT FOR SOME OF THESE
1:54:26SENSITIVE INVESTIGATIONS, THEY
1:54:27MAY TURN INTO THAT, AND THEN WE
1:54:28WOULD END THE RECORDING AND WE
1:54:30WOULD STATE WHY WE ENDED THE
1:54:32RECORDING. OKAY. NEXT SLIDE.
1:54:35IT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW
1:54:36LONG THE FOOTAGE LIVES, HOW
1:54:38IT'S RETAINED. IT'S OBVIOUSLY
1:54:41RECORDED ON THE CAMERA. WHEN
1:54:42THE OFFICERS RETURNED TO THE
1:54:45PRECINCTS, THEY PUT IT IN
1:54:46WHAT'S CALLED THE DOC. IT'S
1:54:48UPLOADED. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO
1:54:49GO IN AND, AND TAG IT AND, AND
1:54:52MAKE SURE THAT IT LINES UP WITH
1:54:53THE PROPER CASE NUMBER AND THEN
1:54:55IT'S STORED AND IT'S PROTECTED.
1:54:57IT CANNOT BE EDITED, DELETED.
1:54:58WE CAN LIMIT WHO CAN VIEW
1:55:01CERTAIN FOOTAGE. AND THEN YOU
1:55:05CAN SEE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, WE
1:55:07FOLLOW OREGON LAW AND STATE
1:55:08STATUTE AROUND THE RETENTION OF
1:55:13THE MATERIAL ROUTINE FOOTAGE.
1:55:15NO CASE. THIS MIGHT BE, FOR
1:55:17EXAMPLE, I OFTENTIMES WEAR A
1:55:19CAMERA. I MAY DRIVE BY A
1:55:21VEHICLE THAT'S ON A TRAFFIC
1:55:23STOP, AND THE OVERHEAD LIGHTS
1:55:25FROM THAT VEHICLE ACTIVATES MY
1:55:26CAMERA. I'M NOT STOPPING. I'M
1:55:29JUST DRIVING BY. I CAMERA COMES
1:55:31ON, IT MAY RECORD FOR 30S OR A
1:55:33MINUTE. I END THAT RECORDING
1:55:35AND THEN I HAVE TO GO IN AND
1:55:37TAG THAT AS A, YOU KNOW,
1:55:39ACCIDENTAL OR UNINTENTIONAL
1:55:41ACTIVATION. AND THAT WILL BE
1:55:42DELETED WITHIN 180 DAYS
1:55:44EVIDENCE UNTIL THE CASE REACHES
1:55:45FINAL DISPOSITION. INTERNAL
1:55:48INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS UNTIL
1:55:50CLOSED, OR 180 DAYS, WHICHEVER
1:55:53IS LONGER. AND THEN ON THE
1:55:54RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE
1:55:56PURPOSES THAT IT'S FOR, WHERE
1:55:58IT'S HELPED US. AND WE'RE GOING
1:56:00TO GET INTO ON THE NEXT SLIDE
1:56:03HERE AROUND FOOTAGE RELEASE
1:56:04WITHIN 14 DAYS. CRITICAL
1:56:07INCIDENT RELEASING OF
1:56:08INFORMATION. WE DID NEGOTIATE
1:56:11IN THIS PROCESS. ALL INVOLVED
1:56:13OFFICERS GIVE A STATEMENT TO
1:56:15INTERNAL AFFAIRS WITHIN 48
1:56:16HOURS BEFORE VIEWING. WE USE IT
1:56:18FOR AFTER ACTION PROCESS,
1:56:21INCLUDING RANDOM REVIEWS
1:56:22THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO TO
1:56:24REVIEW OFFICERS PERFORMANCE.
1:56:26AND THEN OF COURSE, IT'S NEVER
1:56:27USED IN ACCORDANCE WITH FACIAL
1:56:29RECOGNITION OR NON-LAW
1:56:31ENFORCEMENT USE. AND ONCE AGAIN,
1:56:33AS I SAID EARLIER, IT'S ONE
1:56:35PERSPECTIVE. THERE'S A LOT OF
1:56:36THINGS THAT IMPACT THE BENEFIT
1:56:39OR AVAILABILITY OR INFORMATION
1:56:40THAT'S SHARED AS IT RELATES TO,
1:56:43YOU KNOW, THE PLACEMENT OF THE
1:56:44CAMERA FIELD OF VIEW, LIGHT,
1:56:45AUDIO, ETC. OKAY. RE I THINK WE
1:56:49HAVE THE SOP NEXT. IS THAT
1:56:51RIGHT? SO THIS SOP, I JUST WANT
1:56:56TO WALK THROUGH AND I WANT TO
1:56:58BE CLEAR ABOUT LANGUAGE FOR A
1:56:59MINUTE. OFTENTIMES WE TALK
1:57:01ABOUT POLICY. AND WHAT I JUST
1:57:03REVIEWED FOR YOU WAS REALLY THE
1:57:05DIRECTIVE, WHICH IS THE POLICY
1:57:06THAT GOVERNS THE BEHAVIOR OF
1:57:07THE POLICE OFFICERS. AND ONCE
1:57:09AGAIN, THE POLICY IS PUT
1:57:12THROUGH MANY STAGES. COMMUNITY
1:57:14REVIEW AS PART OF WAS
1:57:17NEGOTIATIONS WITH LABOR. YOU
1:57:18KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS
1:57:20FOR SOMETHING TO BECOME POLICY.
1:57:21AND THEN AS WITH MANY BUREAUS,
1:57:23YOU HAVE AN SOP WE REFERRED TO
1:57:26AS A POLICY AS WELL. WE HAVE
1:57:27MORE FLEXIBILITY AND MORE
1:57:29LATITUDE WITHIN AN SOP TO
1:57:32CREATE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE
1:57:33GOING TO OPERATIONALIZE? WHAT'S
1:57:34THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? SO
1:57:36WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS AN
1:57:38SOP. AS I MENTIONED, THE
1:57:40PROGRAM FOR US BECAME LIVE IN
1:57:4224. THE DISADVANTAGE OF THAT
1:57:44WAS WE HAD MANY YEARS WHERE WE
1:57:46WERE BEHIND, WHERE OTHER
1:57:47AGENCIES WERE DOING AND
1:57:49PROGRESSING. THE POSITIVE IS
1:57:50WHEN WE CREATED THE PROGRAM, WE
1:57:52HAD MANY AGENCIES TO PULL
1:57:53RESOURCES AND INFORMATION FROM.
1:57:56SO THIS YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING
1:57:57TO READ WORD FOR WORD, BUT WE
1:57:59USE THIS SOP WHEN WE ARE
1:58:01TALKING ABOUT BODY WORN CAMERA
1:58:03PUBLIC RELEASE. AND LARGELY
1:58:05IT'S AROUND CRITICAL INCIDENTS.
1:58:07AND SO YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW,
1:58:09POINT NUMBER ONE, INITIAL
1:58:10EVALUATION, THIS REFERENCES AN
1:58:12OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING. IT
1:58:13MAY NOT BE AN OFFICER INVOLVED
1:58:15SHOOTING. IT COULD BE REALLY
1:58:16ANY CRITICAL INCIDENT. BUT THIS
1:58:17IS SPECIFIC. WE MENTIONED THAT.
1:58:21THEN THERE'S THE WORK THAT WE
1:58:22DO, THE SHARING OF THE VIDEO
1:58:24INTERNALLY, THE EVIDENCE AS THE
1:58:25COMMS UNIT BEGINS TO PREPARE,
1:58:27THE VIDEOGRAPHER THEN HAS TO
1:58:29BEGIN THE PROCESS OF
1:58:31DOWNLOADING, REDACTING. THERE'S
1:58:32A LOT OF PRIVACY ISSUES THAT WE
1:58:34HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WHEN WE
1:58:36WHEN WE BEFORE WE RELEASE VIDEO
1:58:39INFORMATION, THEN POINT NUMBER
1:58:41FOUR, YOU CAN SEE THE PUBLIC
1:58:43INFORMATION OFFICER REVIEWS IT.
1:58:45A SCRIPT IS CREATED FOR THE
1:58:47VIDEO. WE ATTEMPT TO HAVE THAT
1:58:50BE FACTUAL, NEUTRAL, AND
1:58:52UNBIASED. GO AHEAD AND GO TO
1:58:53THE NEXT PAGE PLEASE. THE
1:58:57SCRIPT IS APPROVED OBVIOUSLY BY
1:58:58THE HOMICIDE SERGEANT. AND ALSO
1:59:00WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE
1:59:01DISTRICT ATTORNEYS WHO HAVE
1:59:02ULTIMATELY AUTHORITY OVER ALL
1:59:03DEATH INVESTIGATIONS. THERE'S
1:59:06MORE EDITING, WE ADD A
1:59:08DISCLAIMER, AND THEN THE DRAFT
1:59:10OF WHAT WE INTEND TO RELEASE IS
1:59:12REVIEWED BY A THROUGH G. THERE
1:59:14YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF
1:59:15PEOPLE THAT PUT EYES ON IT.
1:59:18JUST AS RECENTLY AS THIS PAST
1:59:20WEEK, BEFORE WE DID THE RELEASE,
1:59:21CITY ADMINISTRATOR GAVE SOME
1:59:22INPUT. WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS
1:59:24AND CHANGES BEFORE THE LAST
1:59:26RELEASE. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE
1:59:29IN TERMS OF THE RELEASE PROCESS,
1:59:31HOW IT'S RELEASED TO YOUTUBE,
1:59:33IT'S RELEASED IN 14 DAYS
1:59:35FOLLOWING THE INCIDENT. THE
1:59:36REASON WE DO 14 DAYS, WE CAN DO
1:59:39SOONER. WE OFTENTIMES NEED THAT
1:59:40ENTIRE AMOUNT OF TIME TO REALLY
1:59:43PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF THE OF
1:59:44THE INFORMATION ON THERE THAT
1:59:46WE HAVE TO THE REDACTION. A LOT
1:59:48OF EDITING THAT CAN GO INTO
1:59:49THIS. THERE COULD BE NUMEROUS
1:59:50CAMERAS. IT MAY NOT JUST BE ONE.
1:59:53AND THE 14 DAY WINDOW IS STATE
1:59:55LAW. SO IF SOMEBODY REQUESTS
1:59:56THE NAME OF AN OFFICER, WE HAVE
1:59:58TO PROVIDE THAT NAME WITHIN 14
2:00:00DAYS. WE KNOW THAT ON THESE
2:00:01INCIDENTS, EVERYBODY IS GOING
2:00:02TO WANT TO KNOW THE NAME OF THE
2:00:04OFFICER. SO WE JUST TELL MEDIA
2:00:0614 DAYS, WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL
2:00:07THIS OUT AND EVERYBODY WILL
2:00:09HAVE THAT INFORMATION. THIS SOP
2:00:10HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LITTLE
2:00:12OVER A YEAR. WE MADE SOME
2:00:15CHANGES RECENTLY AT THE
2:00:16DIRECTION OF THE CITY
2:00:17ADMINISTRATOR AND SOME OF THE
2:00:18REQUESTS FOR COUNCIL REGARDING
2:00:20THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOW TRYING
2:00:23TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NO LATER
2:00:25THAN 6 P.M. ON THE 14TH DAY,
2:00:26BECAUSE SOMETIMES THESE EVENTS
2:00:27HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
2:00:29NIGHT OR WHATEVER. WE'RE TRYING
2:00:30TO NOT BE LIKE 14 DAY TO THE
2:00:32MINUTE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE
2:00:34SURE THAT IT'S TYPICALLY
2:00:35RELEASED. IT'S NOT ALWAYS GOING
2:00:36TO BE THE CASE, BUT THAT'S THE
2:00:38GOAL. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE
2:00:39THAT IT GETS TO COUNCIL WITHIN
2:00:42EIGHT HOURS OF THE SCHEDULED
2:00:43RELEASE TIME. SO THAT'S A
2:00:44CHANGE IN THE POLICY. WE REALLY
2:00:47WEREN'T BEING CONSISTENT ABOUT
2:00:48WHEN COUNCIL RECEIVED THIS. WE
2:00:51HAVE TAKEN A VARIETY OF
2:00:53APPROACHES. I WILL SAY THIS IS
2:00:54A WORK IN PROGRESS. SO.
2:00:56COUNCILOR NOVICK. IT'S A TIMELY
2:00:58CONVERSATION. I THINK WE'VE
2:00:59DONE 10 OR 11 OF THESE. IS THAT
2:01:01CORRECT, MIKE? WE'VE DONE ABOUT
2:01:0310 OR 11 OF THESE SINCE WE'VE
2:01:04HAD THE PROGRAM. AND ONCE AGAIN,
2:01:06THERE'S REALLY KIND OF THREE
2:01:08PRIMARY WAYS WE SEE THIS DONE
2:01:09AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND I'VE
2:01:10SPOKEN WITH A NUMBER OF CHIEFS
2:01:12ABOUT THIS. MIKE HAS SPOKEN
2:01:13WITH A NUMBER OF COMMS UNIT.
2:01:15ONE WAY IS, AND WE'VE DONE ALL
2:01:17THREE OF THESE, OR AT LEAST TWO
2:01:18OUT OF THREE THAT I'M SURE I'M
2:01:20NOT. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT. THE
2:01:21THIRD ONE. WE DO A CRITICAL
2:01:23INCIDENT BRIEFING WHERE WE JUST
2:01:24GET UP IN FRONT OF A MICROPHONE,
2:01:26WALK EVERYBODY THROUGH IT, DO
2:01:27IT VERY PUBLICLY. THAT'S ONE
2:01:28OPTION. ANOTHER OPTION INCLUDES
2:01:30DOING A A SHORTER VERSION THAT
2:01:34CAPTURES, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN
2:01:36CONTENT OF THE EVENT THAT IS A
2:01:37NARRATED VERSION AND THEN A
2:01:40RELEASE OF ALL THE RAW VIDEO
2:01:42FOLLOWING THAT. THAT'S
2:01:44PRIMARILY HOW WE'VE DONE IT,
2:01:45WHERE WE'VE HAD A NARRATED
2:01:46VERSION THAT PROVIDE SOME
2:01:48CONTEXT ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE
2:01:49SEEING. AND THEN THE THIRD
2:01:50VERSION IS TO NOT HAVE A
2:01:52NARRATED VERSION, BUT JUST TO
2:01:53HAVE EMBEDDED WORDS. FOR
2:01:56EXAMPLE, THAT'S HOW SAN DIEGO,
2:01:58I BELIEVE DOES IT IS THEY DON'T
2:02:00EXCUSE ME, HAVE ANYBODY TALKING,
2:02:01BUT THEY DO HAVE A NARRATION.
2:02:04WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THAT, A
2:02:05CAPTION. A CAPTION IN THE VIDEO.
2:02:08SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THREE
2:02:10PRIMARY WAYS THAT WE SEE IT
2:02:11DONE AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND
2:02:12THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ADOPTED. WE
2:02:15RECOGNIZE THAT ANYTIME WE ARE
2:02:17GOING TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE
2:02:19CONTEXT OR DO ANY EDITING,
2:02:20THERE'S A RISK OF BIAS TO THAT,
2:02:22THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD BE SEEN
2:02:23AS US TRYING TO PORTRAY A
2:02:25POSITION OR A BELIEF. WE WORK
2:02:27STRONGLY TO AVOID THAT, BUT WE
2:02:29RECOGNIZE THAT EXISTS AND ALL
2:02:30OF US AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO
2:02:31EVERY DAY. SO THAT'S WHY WE
2:02:33RELEASE ALL THE RAW FOOTAGE
2:02:35FOLLOWING THE NARRATED PORTION,
2:02:37SO THAT PORTLANDERS OR OTHERS
2:02:38CAN GO AND SEE EVERYTHING IN
2:02:41CONTEXT. BUT WE REALLY BELIEVE
2:02:43IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE TO
2:02:44JUST PUT IT OUT THERE WITHOUT
2:02:46ANY CONTEXT AT ALL. AND THIS IS
2:02:49CONSISTENT, LIKE I SAID, WITH
2:02:50WITH THE BEST PRACTICES ACROSS
2:02:52THE COUNTRY. SO THAT'S A QUICK
2:02:54DOWN AND, AND DIRTY 10 OR 15
2:02:57MINUTES, BUT KIND OF GIVES US
2:02:59AN OVERVIEW. BUT I KNOW THE
2:03:00PRIMARY PURPOSE OF GETTING
2:03:01TOGETHER IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
2:03:03A CONVERSATION. SO THREW A LOT
2:03:05AT YOU. I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK
2:03:06AND REVIEW ANYTHING. COUNCILOR.
2:03:08NOVICK.
2:03:08>> THANK YOU, CHIEF AND I,
2:03:10THERE'S SOME CONFUSION IN MY
2:03:12NOTES. I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING
2:03:13TO HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM THE
2:03:14PORTLAND COMMITTEE AND
2:03:15COMMUNITY ENGAGED POLICING, BUT
2:03:16IT'S NOT IN MY SCRIPT. DO WE
2:03:18HAVE PCCEP HERE TODAY? YES.
2:03:19OKAY.
2:03:19>> YES.
2:03:20>> THEY'RE GOOD PRESENTATION.
2:03:21ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. BY
2:03:31THE WAY, I SHOULD NOTE THAT
2:03:33CHIEF DAY HAS TOLD ME THAT HE
2:03:34HAS A HARD STOP AT 1215. SO
2:03:36JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
2:03:42>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON
2:03:45COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR
2:03:46INVITING US TO SHARE A BIT
2:03:47ABOUT OUR WORK ON THE ISSUE OF
2:03:50BODY WORN CAMERAS AND BRINGING
2:03:51A COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE INTO
2:03:52THE CONVERSATION. MY NAME IS
2:03:55DORI GRABINSKI AND I'M THE
2:03:56PROGRAM MANAGER. FOR ANYONE
2:03:58FOLLOWING ALONG. PCCEP STANDS
2:04:00FOR THE PORTLAND COMMITTEE ON
2:04:02COMMUNITY ENGAGED POLICING,
2:04:03WHICH IS A COMMUNITY BODY THAT
2:04:05OVERSEES THE PORTLAND POLICE
2:04:07BUREAU AND MAKES
2:04:08RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAYOR
2:04:09AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE. SO
2:04:12TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A
2:04:13BRIEF OVERVIEW OF HISTORICAL
2:04:15WORK ON BODY WORN CAMERA POLICY.
2:04:17AND WE'LL ALSO TOUCH ON SOME
2:04:19EMERGING DISCUSSIONS. AND SO
2:04:21YOU'RE AWARE SOME OF THAT
2:04:22HISTORICAL WORK THAT WE'RE
2:04:23GOING TO TALK ABOUT PREDATES
2:04:24THE SERVICE OF CURRENT PCCEP
2:04:26MEMBERS AND STAFF. HOWEVER,
2:04:28EVERYONE HERE TODAY WAS A PART
2:04:29OF THOSE MORE RECENT
2:04:30DISCUSSIONS ABOUT RELEASE AND
2:04:32PRESENTATION OF FOOTAGE. SO
2:04:34WE'LL TRY TO BE PRETTY QUICK
2:04:35FOR YOU. TODAY, I AM JOINED BY
2:04:37TWO MEMBERS WHO ARE GOING TO
2:04:39HELP ME PRESENT THIS OVERVIEW,
2:04:40AND I WILL INVITE KIP AND GABBY
2:04:43TO QUICKLY INTRODUCE THEMSELVES
2:04:45AT THIS TIME.
2:04:45>> YEAH. HI, I'M KIP SILVERMAN,
2:04:47HE HIM PRONOUNS. I AM CO-CHAIR
2:04:50OF CIP.
2:04:52>> AND I THINK GABBY IS ONLINE.
2:04:54>> OH YEAH, I'M GABRIELLE, I'M
2:04:56THE CHAIR OF THE POLICY AND
2:04:58REFORM COMMITTEE.
2:05:03>> OKAY. AND WE CAN GO TO THE
2:05:05NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO I'LL START
2:05:07US OFF HERE. CHIEF DAVE TOUCHED
2:05:09ON THE TIMELINE AS WELL. WE'RE
2:05:11GOING TO JUST TALK ABOUT A
2:05:12SPECIFIC TIMELINE. SO AS YOU
2:05:14CAN SEE, BODY CAMERAS HAVE BEEN
2:05:15A FORMAL TOPIC FOR THE
2:05:17COMMITTEE SINCE 2019, WHEN
2:05:19MAYOR WHEELER REINTRODUCED THE
2:05:20IDEA OF A PILOT PROGRAM TO
2:05:22COUNCIL. SO THE CIP RACIAL
2:05:25EQUITY SUBCOMMITTEE HELD A
2:05:26SERIES OF MEETINGS AND
2:05:27LISTENING SESSIONS, AND THAT
2:05:29CULMINATED IN A FORMAL
2:05:31RECOMMENDATION ABOUT BODY WORN
2:05:32CAMERA POLICY TO BE CHIEF RESCH
2:05:35IN 2020. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT
2:05:36THE DETAILS OF THAT
2:05:37RECOMMENDATION IN THE NEXT
2:05:38SLIDE. HOWEVER, THOSE POLICY
2:05:41RECOMMENDATIONS WEREN'T
2:05:42CONSIDERED AT THE TIME BECAUSE
2:05:43THE PILOT PROGRAM HAD ONCE
2:05:45AGAIN BEEN PULLED FROM COUNCIL.
2:05:47SO THEN WE GET INTO THE SORT OF
2:05:49SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT REMEDY ERA.
2:05:52THE BODY CAMERA FOR PORTLAND
2:05:54DISCUSSION WAS REVIVED IN 2021,
2:05:56WHEN DOJ SIGNALED THAT THEY
2:05:58WANTED TO ADD THEM TO THE
2:05:59SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. SO OVER
2:06:01THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, PICKS
2:06:03UP, CONDUCTED MORE LARGE SCALE
2:06:05ENGAGEMENT ABOUT WHAT THE
2:06:06COMMUNITY WANTED AND DIDN'T
2:06:07WANT FROM A BODY CAMERA PROGRAM.
2:06:10AND THAT INCLUDED A TOWN HALL
2:06:11AND A SURVEY THAT A COUPLE
2:06:13THOUSAND PEOPLE COMPLETED. SO
2:06:16COGLE PRESENTED THOSE
2:06:17ENGAGEMENT FINDINGS TO THE DOJ,
2:06:19THE CITY AND THE COURT IN 2022.
2:06:22AND OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
2:06:23YEARS, THE CITY WORKED TO
2:06:25IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM, WHICH
2:06:26WENT BUREAU WIDE IN 2024. AND
2:06:28THEN THE FINAL POINT WE HAVE
2:06:30HERE IS ONCE BODY CAMERA
2:06:32FOOTAGE STARTED COMING OUT, THE
2:06:33COMMITTEE DISCUSSED IT AGAIN
2:06:35BEGINNING IN 2025, AND THIS
2:06:37TIME THEY WERE LOOKING AT
2:06:38DETAILS OF HOW THE FOOTAGE IS
2:06:40MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
2:06:41AND WE WILL GET INTO THAT AT
2:06:43THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION.
2:06:45AND NOW I WILL PASS IT OVER TO
2:06:47KIP.
2:06:48>> YEAH. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE
2:06:50GOING TO GET INTO WHAT STEPS
2:06:52RECOMMENDATION AND THE
2:06:53ENGAGEMENT WORK ON BODY WORN
2:06:54CAMERA POLICY ACTUALLY SAID
2:06:57THERE IS AN OVERLAP BETWEEN THE
2:06:58FORMAL RECOMMENDATION AND
2:07:00SUBSEQUENT ENGAGEMENT EVENTS
2:07:01AND SURVEYS. SO WE'VE CONDENSED
2:07:03THE THEMES HERE. WE'LL TRY TO
2:07:05BE QUICK. WHAT WE THINK IS
2:07:07IMPORTANT TO KNOW IS THAT THERE
2:07:08HAS BEEN A SUSTAINED EFFORT TO
2:07:09UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S
2:07:11VALUES ON THIS TOPIC, AND WE
2:07:13HAVE A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION
2:07:15ABOUT WHAT PCCEP HAS HEARD. AS
2:07:18YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE SOME
2:07:19FAMILIAR THEMES HERE
2:07:23TRANSPARENCY, ENSURING THAT
2:07:23MOST TYPES OF ENCOUNTERS ARE
2:07:26RECORDED, THAT FOOTAGE IS
2:07:27SUBJECT TO INDEPENDENT
2:07:28OVERSIGHT, AND THAT IT'S
2:07:30RELEASED IN A TIMELY AND
2:07:31CONSISTENT WAY. SECONDLY,
2:07:34ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICERS
2:07:35COMPLETING REPORTS BEFORE
2:07:36REVIEWING FOOTAGE, CONSEQUENCES
2:07:39FOR POLICY VIOLATIONS AND USING
2:07:42FOOTAGE FOR TRAINING AND
2:07:43AUDITING. THIRDLY, PRIVACY
2:07:46THESE FINDINGS ARE ABOUT
2:07:48PROTECTING COMMUNITY MEMBERS
2:07:49FROM UNINTENDED HARMS RELATED
2:07:52TO RECORDING, STORING AND
2:07:53RELEASING FOOTAGE, AND
2:07:55ESTABLISHING CLEAR RULES ABOUT
2:07:57WHEN CAMERAS SHOULD BE
2:07:58ACTIVATED. AND FINALLY, CONTROL
2:08:00AND INTEGRITY OF FOOTAGE. THE
2:08:02IDEA THAT PB SHOULDN'T HAVE
2:08:04EXCLUSIVE CONTROL OVER FOOTAGE,
2:08:06AND THAT PUBLIC TRUST DEPENDS
2:08:08ON INFORMATION BEING COMPLETE,
2:08:10RELIABLE AND ACCURATE. NEXT
2:08:12SLIDE. IF YOU WOULD, IN OUR
2:08:16FORMAL RECOMMENDATION, PCCEP
2:08:19IDENTIFIED SPECIFIC METRICS OF
2:08:21SUCCESS FOR BODYCAM PROGRAM.
2:08:23THEY WERE A 50% REDUCTION IN
2:08:25USE OF DEADLY FORCE, REDUCED
2:08:27STOPS OF PEOPLE OF COLOR, AND
2:08:30WIDESPREAD PUBLIC APPROVAL OF
2:08:31THE PROGRAM. NEXT SLIDE. AND
2:08:37LASTLY, ON THE POLICY SIDE OF
2:08:39THINGS, WE DID A HIGH LEVEL
2:08:40SIDE BY SIDE COMPARING
2:08:43COMMUNITY PRIORITIES AS
2:08:44IDENTIFIED BY PCCEP AND COCL.
2:08:46WITH THE IMPLEMENTED POLICY. WE
2:08:48DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH
2:08:50THIS PIECE BY PIECE, BUT MANY
2:08:52ASPECTS OF THE EXISTING POLICY
2:08:54DO GENERALLY ALIGN WITH CEP'S
2:08:56WORK. ONE NOTABLE EXCEPTION IS
2:08:58THE TOPIC OF PREVIEW PRE-REVIEW.
2:09:02PCEP STATED THAT OFFICERS
2:09:04SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO VIEW
2:09:06FOOTAGE PRIOR TO WRITING
2:09:07REPORTS, IN ORDER TO PREVENT
2:09:11OFFICERS FROM ADJUSTING THEIR
2:09:12ACCOUNT. EXCUSE ME. OF EVENTS
2:09:15BASED ON WHAT THE VIDEO SHOWS.
2:09:17GENERALLY SPEAKING, PPB
2:09:19OFFICERS MAY REVIEW THE FOOTAGE
2:09:21IN ADVANCE. I BELIEVE THE MAJOR
2:09:23EXCEPTION IS IN DEADLY FORCE
2:09:26SITUATIONS, AND I'LL PASS IT TO
2:09:29GABBY AT THIS POINT.
2:09:32>> THANKS. SO NOW WE'LL SPEAK
2:09:34TO AN EMERGING TOPIC THAT FIRST
2:09:36CAME UP AT PCCEP IN 2025. THIS
2:09:39HAS LESS TO DO WITH FORMAL PPB
2:09:41POLICIES AROUND BODY CAMERAS,
2:09:42AND IT'S MORE ABOUT HOW BODY
2:09:44CAMERA FOOTAGE OF CRITICAL
2:09:46INCIDENTS IS PRESENTED TO THE
2:09:47PUBLIC AND WHAT THE STANDARDS
2:09:49ARE WHEN IT COMES TO PACKAGING
2:09:51THAT FOOTAGE. IN 2025, DAYMON
2:09:54LAMAR JOHNSON DIED AFTER AN
2:09:56ENCOUNTER WITH PPB. DAYMON
2:09:58LAMAR JOHNSON APPEARED TO BE AN
2:10:00ACUTE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS
2:10:01DURING THAT ENCOUNTER, SO MANY
2:10:03COMMUNITY MEMBERS NOTED THE
2:10:04PAINFUL ECHOES OF THE
2:10:06SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT ORIGINS IN
2:10:07THIS CASE. WHEN IT CAME TO
2:10:09RELEASING THE FOOTAGE, PPB TOOK
2:10:11A FEW STEPS THAT PEOPLE TOOK
2:10:12NOTE OF. FIRST, THEY PRODUCED A
2:10:14SUMMARY VIDEO THAT INCLUDED
2:10:16SELECTED FOOTAGE, BUT ALSO, OF
2:10:17COURSE, LEFT OUT A LOT OF
2:10:19FOOTAGE, INCLUDING THE
2:10:20PROTRACTED STRUGGLE BETWEEN
2:10:22OFFICERS AND DAYMON LAMAR. THE
2:10:24VIDEO ALSO INCLUDED NARRATION
2:10:25AND CONTEXT, WHICH SOME PEOPLE
2:10:27FELT WAS SUBJECTIVE AND HEAVIER
2:10:29HANDED THAN PRIOR VIDEOS. PCCEP
2:10:32UNDERSTANDS THAT SUMMARY VIDEOS
2:10:33ARE A COMMON PRACTICE, AND WE
2:10:35DON'T INHERENTLY HAVE A PROBLEM
2:10:36WITH THE CONCEPT. THE ISSUES
2:10:38TALKED ABOUT HAD MORE TO DO
2:10:40WITH HOW SUBJECTIVITY CAN BE
2:10:42INJECTED BASED ON PRODUCTION
2:10:45CHOICES, AND HOW TO ENSURE
2:10:46THOSE CHOICES ARE CONSISTENT
2:10:48AND AS OBJECTIVE AS POSSIBLE.
2:10:51THE OTHER THING PPB DID NOT.
2:10:53I'M SORRY. THE OTHER THING PPB
2:10:56DID WAS HOLD ADVANCE PRIVATE
2:10:58SCREENINGS WITH COMMUNITY
2:10:59LEADERS BEFORE THE PUBLIC
2:11:00RELEASE OF THE FOOTAGE. FOR
2:11:02THOSE SCREENINGS, COMMUNITY
2:11:04MEMBERS WERE ORGANIZED INTO
2:11:05SEPARATE SESSIONS BASED ON
2:11:06AFFINITY, FOR INSTANCE, BLACK
2:11:08COMMUNITY LEADERS AND
2:11:10BEHAVIORAL HEALTH LEADERS. THIS
2:11:12ALSO JUST GENERATED SOME MIXED
2:11:15REACTIONS, AND WHILE THIS COULD
2:11:16BE SEEN AS AN EFFORT TO PREPARE
2:11:18THE COMMUNITY FOR THE RELEASE
2:11:19OF SENSITIVE FOOTAGE, SOME
2:11:21EXPRESSED CONCERNS THAT THIS
2:11:22WAS AN EFFORT TO MANAGE PUBLIC
2:11:24REACTIONS AND KEEP GROUPS
2:11:26SEPARATE, AND IT ALSO CALLED
2:11:27INTO QUESTION WHETHER THIS
2:11:29PROCESS TOOK PLACE FOR THE
2:11:30RELEASE OF ALL SENSITIVE
2:11:31FOOTAGE, AND, IF NOT, HOW THE
2:11:33BUREAU MAKES THOSE CALLS. SO.
2:11:38HERE WE'VE LAID OUT A LIST OF
2:11:40CONSIDERATIONS PCCEP DISCUSSED
2:11:42WHEN IT COMES TO HOW FOOTAGE IS
2:11:44RELEASED AND MESSAGED OUT TO
2:11:45THE PUBLIC RELEASE TIMELINES.
2:11:48SO HOW SOON IS THE FOOTAGE
2:11:49RELEASED? DO TIMELINES
2:11:50DIFFERENT BETWEEN INCIDENTS?
2:11:53VIDEO EDITING. WHAT GOVERNS
2:11:55DECISIONS ABOUT HOW TO EDIT
2:11:56SUMMARY VIDEO? WHAT FOOTAGE IS
2:11:58INCLUDED OR REMOVED? THE
2:12:01NARRATION WHEN IS NARRATION
2:12:03VERBAL OR WRITTEN INCLUDED?
2:12:05WHAT IS PB'S APPROACH TO
2:12:07PREVENTING POTENTIALLY
2:12:09SUBJECTIVE ANALYSIS IN
2:12:10NARRATION? THE ROLLOUT AND
2:12:12COMMUNICATION OF VIDEO? HOW ARE
2:12:14VIDEOS INTRODUCED TO THE PUBLIC?
2:12:16ARE CERTAIN GROUPS INFORMED?
2:12:18FIRST? IS ALL MATERIAL RELEASED
2:12:19AT ONCE OR IN STAGES, AND THE
2:12:22CONSISTENCY? DO THE SAME
2:12:24PROCEDURES APPLY ACROSS ALL
2:12:25CRITICAL INCIDENTS, AND IF NOT,
2:12:27WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE
2:12:28DIFFERENCES? AND WE HOPE THIS
2:12:30CONTEXT HELPS INFORM YOUR
2:12:32DISCUSSIONS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO
2:12:33ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
2:12:43>> ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR
2:12:56KANAL.
2:12:56>> I FEEL LIKE, MIKE, I DON'T
2:12:57HAVE QUESTIONS FOR PEACE ABOUT
2:12:59IT. I'M PROBABLY GOING TO
2:13:00REFERENCE IT IN THE
2:13:01CONVERSATION WE HAVE WITH PB,
2:13:02BUT I APPRECIATE IT.
2:13:03>> SO THANKS. OKAY. THANK YOU
2:13:05VERY MUCH. WE'LL CALL PB BACK
2:13:06UP, BUT PLEASE STAY IN THE ROOM
2:13:08BECAUSE I'M SURE WE WILL ASK
2:13:09YOU TO COMMENT LATER ON.
2:13:11>> THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
2:13:12>> THANK YOU.
2:13:36>> SO I THINK I'LL START JUST
2:13:40BY ASKING, WHAT ARE YOUR
2:13:42RESPONSES TO SOME OF THE
2:13:43QUESTIONS WE JUST HEARD RAISED?
2:13:44LIKE HOW ARE DECISIONS MADE
2:13:45ABOUT HOW TO EDIT THE VIDEO AND,
2:13:47AND ABOUT HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE
2:13:49THAT THE NARRATION IS, IS NOT
2:13:53SUBJECTIVE?
2:13:55>> YEAH, I'M GOING TO TURN THAT
2:13:56OVER TO MIKE HERE ABOUT SOME OF
2:13:58THOSE DECISIONS. I WANT TO
2:14:01ACKNOWLEDGE, PARTICULARLY IN
2:14:02THE FOOTAGE REGARDING MR.
2:14:04JOHNSON, THAT THE OVERTALK
2:14:07THERE WAS SOME THERE WAS SOME
2:14:08TALK OVER THE MR. JOHNSON'S
2:14:11COMMENTS. AND SO THAT'S A
2:14:13SITUATION THAT WE RECTIFIED
2:14:14GOING FORWARD, NOT NARRATING
2:14:16OVER. WHEN WE HEAR VOICES ON
2:14:18THE CAMERA, MAKING SURE THAT
2:14:19THAT'S HEARD. SO AS I SAID,
2:14:20THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
2:14:22IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE
2:14:24EVOLVING. AND AS I MENTIONED
2:14:26EARLIER BEFORE, MIKE MAKES A
2:14:28DETERMINATION OR GIVES A LITTLE
2:14:28MORE DETAIL ABOUT HOW THE
2:14:30EDITING IS DECIDED. YOU KNOW,
2:14:33I'M VERY COMFORTABLE IN
2:14:35RECOGNIZING THE BIAS THAT
2:14:36EXISTS IN ALL OF US AND
2:14:38CERTAINLY INCLUDING IN POLICING.
2:14:40AND SO WE DO, AS I SAID EARLIER,
2:14:43TRY TO TAKE STEPS BY GETTING
2:14:46OTHER EYES AND EARS ON THE
2:14:47PRODUCT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
2:14:48ARE PRESENTING SOMETHING TO THE
2:14:50BEST OF OUR ABILITY THAT IS
2:14:52OBJECTIVE. IT WILL NEVER BE
2:14:53ENTIRELY OBJECTIVE BECAUSE
2:14:55NOTHING WE DO CAN EVER BE
2:14:56ENTIRELY OBJECTIVE, BUT WE ARE
2:14:58REALLY STRIVING FOR THAT. AND
2:15:00OUR INTENT IN THE RELEASE AND
2:15:02THE FORMAT THAT WE DO IS JUST
2:15:04REALLY BELIEVING THE
2:15:05RESPONSIBILITY. WE HAVE TO
2:15:06PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT, BOTH FOR
2:15:07PORTLANDERS AND FOR OTHERS. SO,
2:15:09MIKE, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO HOW
2:15:11DECISIONS ARE MADE ABOUT WHAT
2:15:12TO EDIT.
2:15:13>> YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT,
2:15:14CHIEF. AND BEFORE I GET TO YOUR
2:15:16QUESTION, COUNCILOR NOVICK, I
2:15:17JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE DO
2:15:19APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
2:15:20HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
2:15:22PRODUCING THESE VIDEOS IS NOT
2:15:24SOMETHING WE TAKE LIGHTLY.
2:15:25ANYTIME WE'RE ENGAGED IN THIS
2:15:27PROCESS, SOMEONE HAS LOST THEIR
2:15:29LIFE. SOMEONE HAS SUFFERED A
2:15:33LIFE CHANGING INJURY. THERE'S A
2:15:35RIPPLE EFFECT THROUGH OUR
2:15:36COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE
2:15:37FRIENDS AND FAMILY OF THE
2:15:38PEOPLE INVOLVED, COMMUNITY IN
2:15:40GENERAL. OUR OFFICERS EVEN
2:15:44TRICKLES DOWN TO MY TEAM. WHILE
2:15:46WHAT WE EXPERIENCE IN THIS
2:15:48PROCESS PALES IN COMPARISON TO
2:15:49PEOPLE DIRECTLY INVOLVED, IT
2:15:52CAN TAKE A TOLL ON THE FOLKS ON
2:15:54MY TEAM WHEN THEY'RE PUTTING
2:15:56THESE VIDEOS TOGETHER. AND
2:15:59INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE AND
2:16:01TRANSPARENCY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
2:16:02SO I JUST WANTED TO LEVEL SET
2:16:03WITH THAT. BUT TO GET TO YOUR
2:16:05ORIGINAL QUESTION, COUNCILOR
2:16:07NOVICK. WHEN WE HAVE AN
2:16:08INCIDENT EITHER MYSELF OR A
2:16:10COMBINATION OF MYSELF AND
2:16:11OTHERS ON THE TEAM WILL HEAD
2:16:13OUT TO THE CRITICAL INCIDENT.
2:16:14AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET OUR
2:16:15FIRST UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S
2:16:18HAPPENED PRETTY QUICKLY. WITHIN
2:16:20OUR TWO HOURS, WE WILL BE GIVEN
2:16:23ACCESS TO THE BODY WORN CAMERA
2:16:25FOOTAGE. I THINK THERE'S A
2:16:26BELIEF IN THE COMMUNITY THAT
2:16:28ANYONE AT ANY TIME CAN LOOK AT
2:16:29BODY WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE WITHIN
2:16:31THE BUREAU, BUT THAT'S NOT THE
2:16:33CASE. SO, YOU KNOW, AN OFFICER
2:16:36ON THE STREET WON'T HAVE ACCESS
2:16:37TO THE VIDEO THAT, YOU KNOW,
2:16:41WAS WAS RECORDED DURING A
2:16:42CRITICAL INCIDENT. THE
2:16:43DETECTIVES IN CHARGE OF THE
2:16:45INVESTIGATION HAVE TO GIVE YOU
2:16:46PERMISSION. SO MY TEAM, OF
2:16:47COURSE, GETS THAT PERMISSION.
2:16:49AND WE WILL LOOK AT THE CALL
2:16:50NOTES, THE TIMES OF THE CALL,
2:16:52THE JUST THE THE INDICATIONS OF
2:16:54WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY. WE'LL
2:16:55WORK WITH HOMICIDE DETECTIVES
2:16:57AS FAR AS CREATING A TIMELINE.
2:16:59AND THAT IS BASICALLY HOW WE
2:17:01GET TO A SCRIPT. YOU KNOW,
2:17:04CHIEF REFERENCED BIASES. WE ARE
2:17:07HUMAN. AT THE END OF THE DAY,
2:17:09THIS IS AN EVOLVING PROCESS.
2:17:12WE'RE OPEN TO FEEDBACK. BUT I
2:17:13THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY,
2:17:15WHAT WE PUT OUT THERE IS AS
2:17:18CLOSE TO FACTUAL AS AS IT CAN
2:17:22BE. BUT AGAIN, IT'S A WORK IN
2:17:24PROGRESS. WE'RE ABOUT TEN
2:17:25VIDEOS IN, UNFORTUNATELY,
2:17:26WORKING ON OUR 11TH RIGHT NOW.
2:17:28AND WE WE AIM AND STRIVE TO BE
2:17:31BETTER EVERY DAY. BUT AT THE
2:17:32END OF THE DAY, I AM PROUD OF
2:17:34WHAT THE COMMS TEAM AT PPB DOES
2:17:36ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY.
2:17:41>> COUNCILOR KANAL.
2:17:43>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. NOVICK.
2:17:44THANKS, CHIEF. THANKS, MIKE,
2:17:45FOR BEING HERE AND BRI AS WELL.
2:17:47APPRECIATE EVERYBODY FROM PCCEP
2:17:49INVOLVED AS WELL. THANKS FOR
2:17:51THE CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS
2:17:53BECAUSE I THINK IT'S COME UP. I
2:17:55JUST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE
2:17:56CONTEXT. AFTER DAMON LAMAR
2:17:57JOHNSON WAS KILLED IN JUNE 2025,
2:17:59OUR OFFICE STARTED ASKING ABOUT
2:18:02A BWC FOOTAGE RELEASE POLICY.
2:18:04IT APPEARS THAT THERE WAS NO
2:18:06POLICY EITHER OF THE DIRECTIVE
2:18:08OR SOP TYPE IN EXISTENCE AT
2:18:09THAT TIME. SO I JUST WANTED TO
2:18:12TO GIVE THAT CONTEXT, I KNOW
2:18:13THAT PORTLAND IS THE LAST MAJOR
2:18:15CITY TO HAVE BODY WORN CAMERAS.
2:18:16I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENED
2:18:18BEFORE 2020, BUT I STARTED
2:18:19WORKING AT THE CITY IN 2021 AND
2:18:21STARTED TO GET INFORMATION. I
2:18:23KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
2:18:24SIMPLISTIC NARRATIVES OUT THERE
2:18:25THAT THE REASON FOR THAT WAS,
2:18:27WAS POLICE PUSHBACK. THAT IS
2:18:29NOT WHAT I SAW IN 2021 AND
2:18:33BEYOND. I CAN'T AGAIN SPEAK TO
2:18:35EARLIER THAN THAT. I KNOW THAT
2:18:37THERE WERE A LOT OF DETAILS TO
2:18:38WORK OUT, AND I REMEMBER SEEING
2:18:40SEVERAL LOWS IN THE CONTRACT.
2:18:42THE FINAL POLICY, I BELIEVE,
2:18:43WAS IN AN LOI WITH THE LETTER
2:18:45OF AGREEMENT WITH THE PPA. THAT
2:18:47SORT OF WAS THE FIRST 1314
2:18:48POINTS OF OF POLICY ON THIS.
2:18:52AND I NOTED THAT IN THAT
2:18:54PROCESS, PCCEP NOTED THIS TOO,
2:18:56THAT THAT PRE-REVIEW WAS AN
2:18:57UNSETTLED QUESTION, ENTERING
2:18:58THAT AND EXITING THAT. BUT A
2:19:00LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS GOT AN
2:19:02ANSWER. AND THAT CAN BE, YOU
2:19:04KNOW, ITERATED ON, IMPROVED
2:19:05UPON THAT POLICY, DIDN'T
2:19:07INCLUDE ANYTHING ABOUT RELEASES
2:19:10BY PPB. THAT INFORMATION I'VE
2:19:12BEEN TRYING TO GET, AS I
2:19:14MENTIONED, SINCE JULY, WE HAD A
2:19:16MEETING IN THE ROSE ROOM WITH
2:19:18KAY JORDAN, CHIEF DAY. SERGEANT
2:19:19ALLEN WAS THERE AS WELL, I
2:19:20THINK DC AT THE TIME AND ASKED
2:19:22ABOUT THIS POLICY BECAUSE WE
2:19:24WERE WE WERE GIVEN A PRE
2:19:25SHOWING A FEW HOURS BEFORE THE
2:19:27PRESS CONFERENCE AND AT THE AT
2:19:30THE THE PRE REVIEW, WE SAW THE
2:19:32EDITED NARRATED VERSION. AND
2:19:34THEN I WENT TO THE PRESS
2:19:35CONFERENCE BECAUSE I WASN'T
2:19:36SURE WHAT WAS GOING TO BE SHOWN
2:19:38THERE. AND THE EXACT SAME VIDEO
2:19:40WAS SHOWN, FOLLOWED BY THE
2:19:42SEQUENTIAL RELEASE AT THAT
2:19:43POINT OF THE, I BELIEVE THERE
2:19:45WERE THREE OFFICER BODY WORN
2:19:47CAMERA FOOTAGE IS. THERE'S
2:19:49ABOUT 20 MINUTES IN LENGTH EACH,
2:19:51SO ABOUT AN HOUR OF TOTAL
2:19:52FOOTAGE. AFTER THAT, THEY WERE
2:19:54PRESENTED SEQUENTIALLY. SO
2:19:55YOU'D SEE A FULL SCREEN VERSION
2:19:57OF EACH OFFICER'S IN TURN, AS
2:20:00OPPOSED TO. FOR THOSE WHO'VE
2:20:01SEEN LIKE A SECURITY CAMERA
2:20:02FOOTAGE, THE THE SORT OF SPLIT
2:20:03SCREEN OR IF YOU'RE WATCHING
2:20:05ONLINE, YOU MIGHT SEE THE ZOOM
2:20:06LIKE THAT AS WELL. WE FOLLOWED
2:20:10UP. WE DIDN'T GET ANY
2:20:12INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
2:20:14STANDARDIZATION OF THAT. I
2:20:16FOLLOWED UP AFTER THE FOOTAGE
2:20:17OF ERIC SHEARER WAS RELEASED IN
2:20:19MARCH 2026, WHICH HAD A
2:20:20DIFFERENT A DIFFERENT PROCESS
2:20:22FOR THAT. WE SENT AN EMAIL ON
2:20:24MARCH 3RD, WE GOT A MARCH 4TH
2:20:26RESPONSE SAYING THAT PPB WAS
2:20:27WORKING ON RESPONSES. WE
2:20:28FOLLOWED UP WITH SORT OF PUT A
2:20:30FINER POINT ON THE QUESTIONS ON
2:20:32MARCH 7TH AND DIDN'T HEAR
2:20:34INFORMATION RESPONSE. THIS IS
2:20:35ALL 2026. AND SO WE FOLLOWED UP
2:20:37WITH CHIEF WITH KAY LEE, SORRY,
2:20:39ON SEPTEMBER 29TH FOLLOWING THE
2:20:40DEATH. BUT PRIOR TO THE BODY
2:20:42WORN CAMERA RELEASE OF EDDIE
2:20:43CAMPBELL, AND WE GOT A RESPONSE
2:20:46ON OCTOBER 5TH, STILL, PRIOR TO
2:20:47THE RELEASE, HIS RESPONSE WAS
2:20:49REALLY HELPFUL AND I APPRECIATE
2:20:50THAT IT RESPONDED TO THINGS
2:20:51OTHER THAN THE REQUEST FOR A
2:20:53WRITTEN POLICY, THIS, THIS ITEM,
2:20:55THIS PRESENTATION ITEM. TODAY'S
2:20:57AGENDA WAS PUBLISHED ON FRIDAY,
2:20:59OCTOBER 16TH, AND LATER IN THE
2:21:00DAY, THE LINK TO THE SOP WAS
2:21:02PUBLISHED, WHICH WAS THE FIRST
2:21:03TIME I GOT ACCESS TO THE SOP.
2:21:05SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT.
2:21:07AND ALSO NOTE THAT ON PAGE
2:21:08THREE OF IT, IT SAYS THAT IT
2:21:10WAS ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED ON
2:21:11SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025, ABOUT A
2:21:12MONTH AND A HALF AFTER I ASKED
2:21:14THE FIRST QUESTION IN THE ROSE
2:21:15ROOM AND 13.5 MONTHS PRIOR TO
2:21:17THE PUBLIC PRESENTATION BEING
2:21:18PUT OUT, IT ALSO NOTES THAT THE
2:21:21POLICY WAS REVISED ON OCTOBER
2:21:235TH, 2026. SO TO GET THAT OUT
2:21:26THERE AND THEN TO IN TERMS OF
2:21:28CONTENT, WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING
2:21:29FOR SINCE JULY 2025 IS IN
2:21:31SERVICE OF BUILDING COMMUNITY
2:21:33TRUST. SO THE QUESTIONS WERE
2:21:34ABOUT IF THERE'S A STANDARD
2:21:35PRACTICE OF COUNCIL
2:21:38NOTIFICATION ABOUT THE THE FACT
2:21:39THAT A POLICE SHOOTING OR IN
2:21:42CUSTODY DEATH OR OTHER CRITICAL
2:21:43INCIDENT OCCURRED THAT DOES NOT
2:21:45APPEAR TO BE CAPTURED IN THIS
2:21:46POLICY BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE
2:21:47OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE. IS THERE
2:21:49A WRITTEN POLICY RELATED TO
2:21:51THAT PIECE OF IT? I KNOW THAT
2:21:53THERE IS NOW ON THE PRE COUNCIL
2:21:55REVIEW OF THE FOOTAGE ITSELF.
2:21:57>> YEAH, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
2:21:58COUNCILOR FIRST OF ALL, THE
2:22:00TIMELINE YOU OUTLINED IS
2:22:01CORRECT. I APOLOGIZE. WE HAVE
2:22:03HAD THIS SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 25.
2:22:05AND WHETHER JUST OVERSIGHT.
2:22:08THERE WAS NO WITHHOLDING. IT
2:22:09WAS JUST I THOUGHT IT HAD GONE
2:22:11ACROSS. I KNEW YOU'D ASK FOR IT.
2:22:13SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT BECAUSE
2:22:14THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS
2:22:15SOMETHING THAT WILL NEED TO
2:22:17SHARE. SO THAT WAS A MISTAKE ON
2:22:19OUR PART. AND YOU'RE CORRECT
2:22:21THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A POLICY IN
2:22:23PLACE WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN MR.
2:22:24JOHNSON PASSED, IT WAS, YOU
2:22:26KNOW, SHORT SIGHTEDNESS. ONCE
2:22:27AGAIN, WE HAD A A ROBUST POLICY,
2:22:29AS I SAID, DIRECTED, BUT WE
2:22:31DIDN'T THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
2:22:32THE RELEASE PIECE OF IT. SO
2:22:35CERTAINLY SOME OF YOUR
2:22:37INITIATIVE AROUND THAT LED TO
2:22:40OBVIOUSLY LED TO THE CREATION,
2:22:42YOU KNOW, OF THIS POLICY AND
2:22:43THE REVISION THAT WAS DONE JUST
2:22:45A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WAS AT
2:22:46THE BEHEST OF THE CITY
2:22:48ADMINISTRATOR WHO ASKED THAT,
2:22:50YOU KNOW, WE PUT IN THE EIGHT
2:22:52HOUR PRIOR NOTIFICATION AND
2:22:52SOME OTHER THINGS. SO THAT'S
2:22:54THE THAT'S THE REVISION PART OF
2:22:56IT THAT WE SENT OVER. SO I'M
2:22:58COMMITTED TO BEING MORE
2:22:59TRANSPARENT IN THAT GOING GOING
2:23:01FORWARD IN TERMS OF COUNCIL
2:23:03NOTIFICATIONS IN OUR DIRECTIVE
2:23:05REGARDING CRITICAL INCIDENTS,
2:23:06I'M REQUIRED, OR MY DESIGNEE IS
2:23:08REQUIRED TO NOTIFY THE CITY
2:23:09ADMINISTRATOR AND THE MAYOR AND
2:23:12WHETHER EXPLICITLY OR SO WE'VE
2:23:13BEEN I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A
2:23:15NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE THE CITY
2:23:16ADMINISTRATOR HAS ASKED ME TO
2:23:18PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT HE CAN
2:23:19PASS ALONG TO COUNCIL, SO I'M
2:23:20TRUSTING THAT STILL THE THE
2:23:22PATHWAY. BUT WE HAVEN'T WRITTEN
2:23:23THAT DOWN ANYWHERE SINCE THE
2:23:24NEW COUNCIL HAS COME ON BOARD.
2:23:26AND YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT,
2:23:27SIR?
2:23:27>> YES. AND THAT WILL ALWAYS BE
2:23:29MY DIRECTION. ANYTIME THERE'S
2:23:30AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING OR
2:23:31INCIDENT THAT I KNOW IS GOING
2:23:33TO PICK UP ANY MEDIA PRESENCE
2:23:35OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT
2:23:36WE'RE MAKING COUNCIL AWARE OF
2:23:37THIS, I WOULD HATE FOR YOU TO
2:23:39GET A CAMERA PUT IN YOUR FACE,
2:23:41AND YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF WHAT
2:23:42HAS TAKEN PLACE. SO THAT WILL
2:23:44ALWAYS BE MY PRACTICE AS CITY
2:23:47ADMINISTRATOR. WHEN WE HAVE
2:23:48THESE TYPE OF INCIDENTS TO TRY
2:23:49TO GET IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. AND
2:23:51I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS SEEN
2:23:52THAT IN MY COMMUNICATION TO
2:23:54THEM, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE
2:23:55AWARE OF THESE INCIDENTS AS
2:23:57THEY AS THEY TAKE PLACE.
2:23:59>> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S
2:24:01ACCURATE. I'M AND I APPRECIATE
2:24:03THE PRACTICE. I'M ALSO ASKING
2:24:05ABOUT THE POLICY SIDE BECAUSE,
2:24:06YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY OUR SYSTEMS
2:24:08ARE MORE RESILIENT THAN ANY OF
2:24:09THE THREE OF US STILL BEING
2:24:11HERE. YOU KNOW.
2:24:12>> DO WE WANT TO ADD THAT INTO
2:24:14THE SOP. ARE YOU SUGGESTING
2:24:15THAT OR.
2:24:15>> I'M NOT SURE IF THIS.
2:24:17>> ONE'S ABOUT RELEASE OF
2:24:18FOOTAGE. SO MAYBE A BETTER
2:24:19PLACE SOMEWHERE ELSE. I WAS
2:24:21JUST CURIOUS IF IT EXISTED IN.
2:24:22>> WRITING IN THE IN THE
2:24:24DIRECTIVE, I'M REQUIRED TO
2:24:25NOTIFY THE MAYOR OF THE CA FOR
2:24:26THESE CATEGORY ONE FORCE
2:24:27INCIDENTS. SO BUT IT'S NOT
2:24:29WRITTEN DOWN ANYWHERE
2:24:29SPECIFICALLY RIGHT NOW. WE CAN
2:24:31WORK ON THAT.
2:24:31>> THANKS. SO I THINK THE OTHER
2:24:35THING YOU REFERRED TO, CHIEF,
2:24:37IS THE THE STANDARD PRACTICE OF
2:24:39COUNCIL REVIEW. THAT'S PART
2:24:41NINE A IS THAT THE PART THAT
2:24:42GOT ADDED ON OCTOBER 5TH OF
2:24:44THIS YEAR?
2:24:46>> I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK
2:24:48AT THAT NINE.
2:24:49>> IT'S THE EIGHT HOURS.
2:24:50>> NINE A YES. TRYING TO GET
2:24:52YOU GUYS AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF
2:24:54TIME TO SEE IT AND REVIEW IT.
2:24:56SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S COMING. SAY
2:24:58EIGHT, NINE, TEN HOURS LATER.
2:25:00YES.
2:25:00>> I APPRECIATE THAT.
2:25:01>> AND I, I KNOW THAT THAT WAS
2:25:02PRACTICE FOR THE, THE EDDIE
2:25:05CAMPBELL RELEASE. SO I
2:25:07APPRECIATE THAT BEING PUT DOWN.
2:25:10THE OTHER PIECE IS SO AND I'M
2:25:12JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH THEM
2:25:13BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE THEY'RE
2:25:15A LOT IN HERE. SO THERE'S. WE
2:25:17ASKED FOR FOOTAGE TO BE
2:25:18RELEASED UNEDITED AND WITHOUT
2:25:20NARRATION TO HAVE CLARITY ON
2:25:22WHEN FOOTAGE BEGINS. SO I'LL
2:25:24NOTICE WHEN WHEN DAMON LAMAR
2:25:26JOHNSON FOOTAGE WAS RELEASED,
2:25:27THERE IS A PRE FOOTAGE WHERE
2:25:29THE OFFICERS ARE ON LOMBARD, I
2:25:31BELIEVE KIND OF YOU CAN SEE
2:25:33THROUGH THE WINDSHIELD THE TACO
2:25:34BELL SIGN THERE AND THEY'RE
2:25:37ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT AND
2:25:39THEY'RE GETTING THE CALL. SO
2:25:41YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF
2:25:42WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE
2:25:44ENTERING, WHICH I THINK IS
2:25:45REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC
2:25:47BECAUSE IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE,
2:25:48THE FRAMING OF THAT CALL, IT'S
2:25:50NOT 911 AND IT'S NOT THE POLICE.
2:25:52IT'S ACTUALLY A SECURITY GUARD
2:25:54AT THE FACILITY MAKING A CALL.
2:25:57AND, YOU KNOW, REFERRING TO
2:26:00DAMON LAMAR JOHNSON AS A
2:26:04GORILLA AND IMPERSONATING A
2:26:05GORILLA IN THAT CALL, THAT IS
2:26:07HELPFUL CONTEXT FOR THE PUBLIC
2:26:09TO KNOW WHAT WAS GIVEN TO
2:26:10OFFICERS, BECAUSE THAT HAD
2:26:12NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY CITY
2:26:13EMPLOYEE AT ALL. WHEREAS SOME
2:26:15OF THE LATER FOOTAGE RELEASES
2:26:18START LATER, THEY START WITH
2:26:20ARRIVAL ON THE SCENE. SIMILARLY,
2:26:23THERE'S A QUESTION AS TO WHEN
2:26:24DOES FOOTAGE END. SO THERE IS A
2:26:27AN INTERTIDAL, A SCREEN OVERLAY
2:26:29WITH TEXT WRITTEN ON IT IN THE
2:26:31THE RELEASE OF EDDIE CAMPBELL
2:26:32FOOTAGE THAT SAYS DESPITE LIFE
2:26:34SAVING CARE, MR. CAMPBELL DIED
2:26:36AT THE SCENE. THE FOOTAGE CUTS
2:26:39OFF BEFORE THAT. AND SO THAT
2:26:42PART, WHICH OSTENSIBLY IS IN
2:26:43THE FOOTAGE SOMEWHERE, IS NOT A
2:26:45PART OF THE RELEASE, WHEREAS IN
2:26:47SOME OF THE OTHERS IT HAS GONE
2:26:49ON MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER
2:26:50AFTERWARDS, MAYBE NOT ALL THE
2:26:51WAY THROUGH THAT PERIOD. AND
2:26:53IT'S CERTAINLY DIFFERENT FOR
2:26:54EACH SITUATION. I WANT TO
2:26:55ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. HOW LONG
2:26:57AFTER. BUT SO THAT'S ANOTHER
2:27:00THING IN THE POLICY. AND I WILL
2:27:03JUST KIND OF ASK HERE, PART SIX
2:27:06SEEMS TO INDICATE. THAT, AND
2:27:10I'M GOING TO READ THE LINE HERE.
2:27:13IN THE EVENT OF A LARGE SCALE
2:27:15INCIDENT INVOLVING NUMEROUS
2:27:16OFFICERS WITH THE SAME ANGLE,
2:27:17THE DECISION WILL BE MADE IN
2:27:18COORDINATION WITH THE CHIEF'S
2:27:19OFFICE. HOW MANY CAMERA ANGLES
2:27:21TO INCLUDE, AND I FULLY
2:27:25RECOGNIZE THE NEXT LINE IS
2:27:26IMPORTANT HERE TOO. THIS WILL
2:27:27BE DONE RECOGNIZING THE LENGTH
2:27:28OF THE VIDEO AS WELL AS THE
2:27:30WORKLOAD THAT IT WOULD CREATE
2:27:31FOR REDACTION. SO THAT IMPLIES
2:27:33THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE 14
2:27:35DAY PERIOD WHEN THAT RELEASE
2:27:37OCCURS, THAT IF THERE WERE
2:27:39MULTIPLE OFFICERS AT THE
2:27:41INCIDENT, THAT NOT ALL THE
2:27:42VIDEO FROM EACH THE OFFICERS
2:27:45WHOSE VIDEOS WERE RELEASED, IT
2:27:47WILL BE RELEASED, BUT NOT ALL
2:27:48OFFICERS WILL HAVE THEIR VIDEO
2:27:49RELEASED. IS THAT AN ACCURATE
2:27:51READING OF THAT? AND CAN YOU
2:27:52SPEAK TO THAT?
2:27:53>> SO JUST TO PUT IT INTO
2:27:54SIMPLE TERMS, IF WE HAVE FIVE
2:27:56OFFICERS AND WE MAKE THE
2:27:58DECISION IN THE NARRATED
2:28:00VERSION TO RELEASE THREE, YOUR
2:28:02QUESTION IS WHEN THE ENTIRE RAW
2:28:04FOOTAGE IS RELEASED, IS IT 3 OR
2:28:075? YOU WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S IF
2:28:09IT'S EVERYONE? MY UNDERSTANDING
2:28:13IT WOULD BE ALL FIVE.
2:28:14>> BUT YEAH, THERE, THERE, WE
2:28:16WILL DO OUR VERY BEST TO
2:28:17INCLUDE ALL OF THEM. FOR
2:28:19INSTANCE, THE ONE TO GIVE YOU A
2:28:21LITTLE BIT OF A PEEK BEHIND THE
2:28:23CURTAIN BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING
2:28:24TO WORK ON ONE RIGHT NOW. THERE
2:28:26WAS ONE OFFICER INVOLVED, AS
2:28:27WE'VE REPORTED PUBLICLY, AND
2:28:29THEN THERE WAS TWO OTHER NEARBY.
2:28:30SO WE'LL BE INCLUDING THAT TO
2:28:31TRY TO GIVE AN EXTRA
2:28:33PERSPECTIVE. BUT THEN THERE'S
2:28:34TIMES WHERE WE'LL FIND THAT THE
2:28:36INCIDENT HAPPENS IN ONE
2:28:38LOCATION AND AROUND THE CORNER
2:28:39IS ANOTHER OFFICER. SO AT SOME
2:28:41POINT YOU HAVE TO JUST
2:28:43ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT CAMERA
2:28:45ISN'T USEFUL, BUT ALSO
2:28:47UNDERSTAND THAT ALL CAMERAS AND
2:28:51VIDEO IS AVAILABLE TO THE
2:28:52PUBLIC AT ANY POINT ONCE THE
2:28:54INVESTIGATION IS CLOSED. SO
2:28:56ANYONE COULD GET MORE IF THEY
2:28:58THOUGHT WE WERE LEAVING
2:28:59SOMETHING OUT. BUT THAT'S WHY
2:29:00WHERE THIS IS AN EVOLVING
2:29:01PROCESS, WHERE WE BELIEVE IN
2:29:03EVERY ONE THAT WE'VE HAD, WHICH
2:29:05IS TEN TO THIS POINT, AND
2:29:07WORKING ON 11, THAT WE'RE
2:29:08INCLUDING ALL RELEVANT CAMERAS
2:29:10TO THE ACTUAL INCIDENT ITSELF,
2:29:11IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
2:29:13>> OKAY.
2:29:14>> SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I WANT
2:29:15TO JUST FOLLOW UP ON TWO PARTS
2:29:18HERE. SO THE FIRST TWO
2:29:19SENTENCES OF THIS SAYS THE
2:29:21VIDEOGRAPHER WILL EDIT THE
2:29:22NARRATED VERSION. FOLLOWING
2:29:23THAT WILL BE RAW FOOTAGE. IT'S
2:29:25SO TO CHIEF POINT FIRST, I'M
2:29:28NOT SURE WHICH ONE THE
2:29:30ALLOWANCE IN THE REST OF THAT
2:29:32PARAGRAPH IS FOR REDUCING THE
2:29:34NUMBER FOR FOR DETERMINING
2:29:35WHAT'S RELEVANT OR NOT
2:29:37SUBJECTIVELY. SO IN OTHER WORDS,
2:29:39I'M NOT SURE IF IF ALL THE REST
2:29:41OF THAT TEXT APPLIES TO THE
2:29:42NARRATED VERSION OR TO THE FULL
2:29:44SEQUENTIAL RELEASE.
2:29:45>> WE, IF I MAY, THE PART THE
2:29:48VIDEO THAT COMES IN THE
2:29:50UNEDITED PORTION OF OUR
2:29:53PRESENTATION ARE THE CAMERAS
2:29:54THAT WERE USED TO PUT TOGETHER
2:29:57THE NARRATED PIECE SO THAT
2:29:59COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT WHILE WE
2:30:02MIGHT BE IN THE NARRATED PIECE,
2:30:03TAKING BITS AND PIECES OF IT TO
2:30:05PUT IT TOGETHER FOR AN
2:30:07UNDERSTANDING THAT ULTIMATELY
2:30:08FROM A 30,000 FOOT VIEW, IT HAS
2:30:11NOT BEEN MANIPULATED, THAT WHAT
2:30:13YOU SEE IN THE UN NARRATED
2:30:16PORTION, UNEDITED, IS AN
2:30:18ACCURATE PORTRAYAL OF WHAT
2:30:20HAPPENED. AND THE REASON WE DO
2:30:22THAT IS RESEARCH SHOWS THAT
2:30:26SOMEBODY'S ATTENTION SPAN IS 40
2:30:29TO 47 SECONDS, AND WE OWE IT TO
2:30:32OUR COMMUNITY TO GIVE THEM AN
2:30:34UNDERSTANDING. AT LEAST WE
2:30:35BELIEVE IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY
2:30:36TO GIVE THEM AN UNDERSTANDING
2:30:38OF WHAT HAPPENED. BECAUSE IN
2:30:39SOME OF THESE, I DON'T KNOW IF
2:30:41IT WAS DAMIAN LAMAR JOHNSON,
2:30:42BUT IN A COUPLE OF THESE VIDEOS,
2:30:44THE UNEDITED PORTIONS HAVE RUN
2:30:45LONGER THAN AN HOUR. AND I
2:30:47THINK IT WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLY
2:30:50BIG ASK OF US TO DUMP THAT ON
2:30:52COMMUNITY WITHOUT ANY
2:30:54UNDERSTANDING. AND SOMETHING
2:30:54ELSE COUNCILOR THAT WE'RE
2:30:56SEEING, WHICH IS TROUBLING TO
2:30:58US, IS THIRD PARTY COMPANIES
2:31:00COMING IN. WE JUST SAW IT OVER
2:31:02THE LAST WEEK WANTING ACCESS TO
2:31:03OUR RAW SO THAT THEY CAN, IN
2:31:06OTHER WORDS, PLAY WITH IT AND
2:31:08MAKE THEIR OWN ACCOUNT OF WHAT
2:31:09HAPPENED. AND WE HAVE A
2:31:10RESPONSIBILITY TO LEVEL SET.
2:31:12AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF
2:31:13WHERE WE GET TO THIS STAGE OF
2:31:17WE HAVE A NARRATED PIECE AND AN
2:31:20AND AN UN NARRATED PIECE. SO
2:31:22THAT COMMUNITY HAS A CHOICE ON
2:31:24WHAT PART THEY WANT TO WATCH.
2:31:26>> DO YOUR POINT, COUNCILOR ARE
2:31:27YOU RECOMMENDING THAT IF
2:31:28THERE'S FIVE VIDEOS WE USE
2:31:30THREE FOR THE NARRATION, WE AT
2:31:31LEAST HAVE ALL FIVE AS THE RAW
2:31:33FOOTAGE. THAT'S WHAT I HEAR YOU
2:31:34SAYING.
2:31:35>> I THINK WITH RELATION TO THE
2:31:36CLARITY OF THIS PARAGRAPH
2:31:37THAT'S BEING CLEAR ABOUT WHICH
2:31:39THAT IS, IS STEP ONE. STEP TWO
2:31:40IS WHAT YOU JUST SAID, CHIEF. I
2:31:42MEAN, AS I'VE INDICATED OUTSIDE
2:31:44OF HERE AND I'LL MENTION NOW, I
2:31:45ACTUALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT
2:31:46THERE SHOULD BE AN EDITED
2:31:48VERSION AT ALL, BUT CERTAINLY
2:31:49RELEASING ALL OF IT BECAUSE AS
2:31:51YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATIONS CAN
2:31:52TAKE A WHILE. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT
2:31:54MEASURING IN WEEKS AT THAT
2:31:55POINT.
2:31:55>> WE'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT
2:31:57AND THEN GO BACK AND HAVE A
2:31:59CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
2:32:00WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND AS
2:32:01MIKE MENTIONED, I MEAN,
2:32:02ULTIMATELY THROUGH THE PUBLIC
2:32:03RECORDS PROCESS, ANYTHING
2:32:05ULTIMATELY CAN BECOME AVAILABLE.
2:32:06BUT IN THE PURPOSE OF, YOU KNOW,
2:32:08WANTING TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH
2:32:10FOLKS, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE
2:32:11SAYING. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
2:32:12>> I.
2:32:13>> APPRECIATE THAT. WHEN I
2:32:16IMAGINE THIS IS THIS NEXT ONE
2:32:18IS BASED ON HOW MANY ANGLES
2:32:19BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT IF IT'S
2:32:21THREE, 5 OR 20, BUT THE CHOICE
2:32:23OF WHETHER OR NOT TO RELEASE IT
2:32:25AS SEQUENTIAL FULL SCREEN
2:32:28VERSUS A SPLIT SCREEN. I'VE
2:32:30SEEN, FOR EXAMPLE, IN SOME OF
2:32:32THE AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT
2:32:34THERE IS MEDIA HAS DONE IT IN
2:32:36SOME CASES, BUT THE CITY ITSELF
2:32:37HAS RELEASED IN OTHER CASES
2:32:39WHERE IT'S TIME ALIGNED SO THAT
2:32:41IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE RIGHT
2:32:42ANGLE HERE, YOU CAN GO BACK 10S
2:32:43AND WATCH THIS SIDE, AS OPPOSED
2:32:45TO HUNTING FOR THE TIMESTAMP.
2:32:47THAT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE
2:32:48DIRECTLY ADDRESSED IN HERE. IS
2:32:49THERE A POLICY RELATED TO THAT?
2:32:50HOW DOES THAT DECISION GET MADE?
2:32:52>> WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY ON
2:32:54THAT. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING
2:32:55WE COULD DISCUSS, YOU KNOW,
2:32:56OFFLINE. I THINK WHERE AND
2:32:58MAYBE WHERE YOU'RE COMING AT IS
2:32:59THE DAMON LAMAR JOHNSON ONE, I
2:33:01DON'T THINK HAD THE MULTIPLE
2:33:03BOXES. AND QUITE FRANKLY, AGAIN,
2:33:04THIS IS WHERE, WHERE IT'S
2:33:06DIFFICULT BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE
2:33:07DOING IS TRYING TO DO OUR BEST.
2:33:09AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE
2:33:10VIDEOS AND WE ARE PUTTING THIS
2:33:12TOGETHER, THERE WAS AN OBVIOUS
2:33:13STRUGGLE FOR ANYONE IN THE ROOM
2:33:14OR ANYONE WATCHING THAT THAT IS
2:33:16FAMILIAR WITH THAT VIDEO IN
2:33:17THAT INCIDENT, THAT THERE WAS A
2:33:18STRUGGLE IN MR. JOHNSON'S
2:33:20APARTMENT. AND WHEN YOU PUT
2:33:21FOUR CAMERAS UP AT THE SAME
2:33:23TIME, IT WAS IT WAS VERY
2:33:25CONFUSING. IT WAS VERY JARRING.
2:33:27SO THE DECISION WAS MADE NOT TO
2:33:28PUT THOSE UP AT THE SAME TIME.
2:33:30BUT AGAIN, ALL FOUR VIDEOS, IF
2:33:32THAT IS IT, I DON'T HAVE IT IN
2:33:34FRONT OF ME. HOW MANY OFFICERS
2:33:36WERE INVOLVED? AND WHEN I THINK
2:33:374 OR 3, THE RAW COMES RIGHT
2:33:39AFTER IT. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE WE
2:33:42HAD A SIMULTANEOUS ONE WHERE WE
2:33:44HAD THEM SIDE BY SIDE, YOU KNOW,
2:33:46A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. MY
2:33:47INTENTION IS TO DO THAT AGAIN
2:33:48WITH THIS ONE. IT WAS JUST
2:33:50LOOKING OUT FOR THE PEOPLE
2:33:51WATCHING THIS AND TRYING TO
2:33:52THINK, WELL, THEY EVEN
2:33:53UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO
2:33:54AGAIN, WE'RE IT'S AN EVOLVING
2:33:56PROCESS AND WE'RE DOING OUR
2:33:57VERY BEST TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY
2:33:58THE BEST LOOK AND UNDERSTANDING
2:34:00OF WHAT HAPPENED PRIOR TO THEM.
2:34:02LOOKING AT THE UNEDITED PORTION,
2:34:04IF THEY IF THEY CHOOSE TO.
2:34:06>> OKAY, THANKS.
2:34:07>> AND THEN THE LAST KIND OF
2:34:08CONTENT QUESTION I HAVE IN THE
2:34:10SLIDES AND IN THE POLICY, IT
2:34:12TALKS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF
2:34:13BLURRING AS A METHOD OF
2:34:15REDACTION, RIGHT. AND IT TALKS
2:34:17ABOUT BLURRING FACES. FOR
2:34:18EXAMPLE, IN THE EDDIE CAMPBELL
2:34:21FOOTAGE, THERE IS
2:34:23>> A LARGE RECTANGULAR BLACK
2:34:25BOX PLACED OVER THAT COVERS
2:34:26MOST OF OR ALL OF. AT TIMES,
2:34:28THE SILHOUETTE OF BOTH MR.
2:34:30CAMPBELL AND KYLO. AND SO I
2:34:33KNOW THAT THERE'S MINIMUM
2:34:34STANDARDS FOR REDACTION IN
2:34:35STATE LAW, BUT MY CURIOSITY IS
2:34:37ABOUT THE TYPE AND CHOICE OF
2:34:39REDACTION, WHICH SOMETIMES CAN
2:34:41MAKE. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S HARD TO
2:34:44WATCH IN ANY OF THESE CASES,
2:34:45AND I SHOULD TAKE THE TIME TO
2:34:47ACKNOWLEDGE HERE THAT OBVIOUSLY
2:34:48EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS.
2:34:49IT'S NOT THAT THERE CAN BE A
2:34:51LOT OF SECONDARY TRAUMA
2:34:52ASSOCIATED WITH WATCHING AND
2:34:53EDITING, AND A LOT OF THESE
2:34:54FOLKS ARE, YOU KNOW,
2:34:57VIDEOGRAPHERS, RIGHT? THESE ARE
2:34:58PROFESSIONAL STAFF AS NON-SWORN
2:34:59AS WELL WHO ARE AFFECTED BY IT.
2:35:01SO I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT HOW
2:35:03DOES THE CHOICE GET MADE OF HOW
2:35:05TO REDACT WHEN IT IS
2:35:06POTENTIALLY GOING ABOVE AND
2:35:08BEYOND THE, THE MINIMUM
2:35:09STANDARD IN STATE LAW?
2:35:10>> YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. THE
2:35:12REDACTION STARTS IN OUR RECORDS
2:35:14DEPARTMENT. IT'S A DIVISION.
2:35:14IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE COMMS. SO
2:35:18I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE
2:35:19POLICY. IF NOT, WE CAN ADD IT.
2:35:21BUT ONE OF THE ONE OF THE FIRST
2:35:25THINGS WE DO OUT OF THE GATE IS
2:35:27WHEN WE GET ACCESS TO IT. WHEN
2:35:29MY TEAM GETS ACCESS TO THE BODY
2:35:30WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE, IT ALSO
2:35:32GETS SENT TO THE RECORDS
2:35:34DIVISION AND THEY HANDLE THE
2:35:36REDACTIONS. SO THAT WOULD BE
2:35:37SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO BRING IN
2:35:39SOMEONE FROM A RECORDS DIVISION
2:35:40TO KIND OF GET INTO THE WEEDS
2:35:42ON THAT. I'D BE MISSPEAKING IF
2:35:44I WENT ANY FURTHER. I THINK
2:35:45CHIEF WOULD WOULD BE TOO.
2:35:47>> YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO. I'M
2:35:48HAPPY TO ASK. IN THAT
2:35:49PARTICULAR CASE, YOU KNOW, MY
2:35:51ASSUMPTION WAS JUST TO, YOU
2:35:52KNOW, OUT OF RESPECT FOR LIKE
2:35:53YOU SAID, THE TRAUMA OF, YOU
2:35:55KNOW, WATCHING ANYONE DIE WAS
2:35:57MY ASSUMPTION WHEN I WATCHED
2:35:58THE VIDEO. BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY
2:35:59A QUESTION WE CAN DIG DOWN ON.
2:36:01YEAH.
2:36:01>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I MEAN, I
2:36:03GUESS REALLY BIG PICTURE TO
2:36:05KIND OF BEGIN TO WRAP UP HERE
2:36:07BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE GONE ON FOR
2:36:09A BIT. I, I'M, I'M TRYING TO
2:36:12UNDERSTAND. SO THE PURPOSE OF
2:36:16RELEASE IS IN PART TO INFORM.
2:36:18RIGHT. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE IT'S,
2:36:20IT'S PARTIALLY TO HELP BUILD
2:36:21PUBLIC TRUST IN TWO DIFFERENT
2:36:24THINGS. IDEALLY, THE
2:36:25INSTITUTION OF THE CITY AS
2:36:27BEING TRANSPARENT, OUR CORE
2:36:29VALUE INCLUSIVE OF THE POLICE
2:36:31BUREAU, BUT BROADLY THE CITY.
2:36:32AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE
2:36:33NATURE OF THE CONTENT IN THE
2:36:37POST-INCIDENT EVALUATION BY
2:36:39POLICE OR WHATEVER OTHER ENTITY
2:36:40IS DOING THE REVIEW, YOU KNOW,
2:36:42IPR EVENTUALLY CBPA THAT THERE
2:36:45IS SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO DO
2:36:47THAT, AND THAT IT'S BEING
2:36:48PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS
2:36:49FOR EVALUATION, POTENTIALLY
2:36:52INVESTIGATION, DEPENDING ON THE
2:36:53NATURE OF IT. RIGHT. AND SO,
2:36:56AND I'M SEEING, YOU KNOW, AND I
2:36:57APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK WE'RE
2:36:59ALL ON THE SAME PAGE THERE. I
2:37:00THINK AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THAT
2:37:02THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROBABLY
2:37:03TALKING TO EACH OF US IN THIS
2:37:05ROOM ARE PROBABLY DIFFERENT
2:37:06ABOUT IT. WHAT I HEAR ABOUT
2:37:08PUBLIC TRUST IS THAT IT IS
2:37:10DIMINISHED BY THE RELEASE OF A
2:37:12NARRATION, ESPECIALLY GIVEN.
2:37:14AND I YOU KNOW, I'LL NOTE THE
2:37:16UNIT IS CALLED STRATEGIC
2:37:18COMMUNICATIONS UNIT, RIGHT IN
2:37:21THE IN THE DOCUMENT. AND SO
2:37:23THAT, THAT BEGS THE QUESTION.
2:37:24AND THIS IS A THIS IS
2:37:26PARAPHRASING THINGS THAT HAVE
2:37:27COME TO ME OF, YOU KNOW,
2:37:29STRATEGIC FOR WHOM. RIGHT. WHAT
2:37:32DOES IT MEAN TO BE COMMUNICATED
2:37:33WITH STRATEGICALLY? AND SO
2:37:36THAT'S ONE PIECE IN PART FOUR
2:37:41OF THE POLICY. IT TALKS ABOUT
2:37:42THE SCRIPT BEING FACTUAL,
2:37:44NEUTRAL AND UNBIASED, BUT I'M
2:37:45NOT SURE WHO OUTSIDE OF THE
2:37:47POLICE BUREAU IS DETERMINING
2:37:49THAT. AND THIS IS DIFFERENT
2:37:51FROM THE DISCLAIMER THIS IS
2:37:52DIFFERENT. THERE WAS A GOOGLE
2:37:54EARTH ZOOM IN AT THE BEGINNING.
2:37:56LIKE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S
2:37:57GOT AN ISSUE WITH THAT. LIKE
2:37:58THAT'S CONTEXTUALIZING WHERE
2:37:59THE EVENT OCCURRED. YOU KNOW,
2:38:01I'M NOT THIS ISN'T ABOUT
2:38:02EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE IN
2:38:03THE EDITING PROCESS. JUST, JUST
2:38:05TO BE CLEAR. AND I THINK, YOU
2:38:06KNOW, THE DISCLAIMER THAT SAYS
2:38:08LIKE NUMBER SEVEN, I HAVEN'T
2:38:10HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM
2:38:11ANYBODY ABOUT THAT. BUT IN
2:38:13TERMS OF THE NARRATION PIECE,
2:38:15WHICH COULD BE, I THINK,
2:38:16IMPROVED DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S
2:38:17YOU MENTIONED, CHIEF, THE SAN
2:38:20DIEGO OPTION OF, OF HAVING IT
2:38:22BE A CAPTION OR CHYRON OR
2:38:24SOMETHING. BUT I, I'M CURIOUS
2:38:25ABOUT THAT PIECE OF IT, AS WELL
2:38:27AS THE SORT OF SUBJECTIVITY
2:38:28THAT GOES INTO DETERMINING IF
2:38:30ANGLES ARE, ARE, ARE DIFFERENT.
2:38:32I WATCHED A, AN EVENT ON VIDEO
2:38:35THAT WAS STITCHED TOGETHER BY
2:38:37MEDIA. IT WAS NOT A POLICE
2:38:38RELATED EVENT. IT OCCURRED IN
2:38:41SEATTLE IN 2020, WHERE THERE
2:38:43WAS A SHOOTING THAT WAS
2:38:45CAPTURED BY SEVERAL CAMERAS,
2:38:47SOME OF WHICH WERE AROUND THE
2:38:48CORNER. AND THE AUDIO OF THAT
2:38:51WAS ACTUALLY IN THE VIDEO. THIS
2:38:53IS PEOPLE'S CELL PHONE FOOTAGE
2:38:54THAT WAS STITCHED TOGETHER BY A
2:38:56MEDIA, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH
2:38:59STATION, BUT THEY THEY
2:39:01BASICALLY THAT CONTEXT WAS
2:39:02HELPFUL FOR. IF YOU'RE TRYING
2:39:04TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE
2:39:05SITUATION, ESPECIALLY IF THE.
2:39:07THERE WAS PROBABLY A REASON THE
2:39:08OFFICER WAS AROUND THE CORNER,
2:39:09RIGHT. SOMETHING EITHER WAS
2:39:10THERE OR THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY
2:39:12TO IT. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO
2:39:14UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE OF IT.
2:39:15LIKE, WHERE IS THE WHERE IS THE
2:39:17PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE BUREAU
2:39:18CHECKING ON WHAT IS THE, THE
2:39:20NEUTRAL FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE,
2:39:22UNBIASED, I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL
2:39:23THREE WORDS.
2:39:24>> I'M GOING TO CUT IN HERE
2:39:25BECAUSE I KNOW THE CHIEF HAS A
2:39:27HARD STOP AT 1215. I WANT TO
2:39:29MAKE SURE THAT COUNCILOR SMITH
2:39:30HAS A CHANCE TO ASK HER
2:39:32QUESTION. AND THEN COULD YOU GO
2:39:33AHEAD AND ANSWER. ANSWER BOTH
2:39:34COUNCILOR'S QUESTIONS.
2:39:36>> THANKS.
2:39:39>> THANK YOU. QUESTION. DO YOU
2:39:42RELEASE A VIDEO OF SOME SORT TO
2:39:44THE FAMILY BEFORE?
2:39:47>> YES.
2:39:47>> WE ACTUALLY SEE IT.
2:39:49>> YES.
2:39:49>> THAT'S PART OF OUR POLICY IS
2:39:51TO SHOW THE FAMILY OF THE
2:39:52INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED, THE VIDEO
2:39:55BEFORE IT GOES OUT SO THAT
2:39:56THEY'RE PREPARED.
2:39:58>> OKAY. THANK YOU.
2:40:01>> COUNSELOR CAN ALSO, I REALLY
2:40:04APPRECIATE YOUR RECOGNITION OF
2:40:05THE FACT THAT THIS COMPLEX AND
2:40:07THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING TO,
2:40:09OR I'M TALKING TO OR OTHERWISE
2:40:10IS GOING TO BE AS VARIED AS THE
2:40:12CITY IS ITSELF, GIVEN THE
2:40:16MASSIVE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT
2:40:19COMES IN NOW BECAUSE OF THESE
2:40:21CAMERAS, IT IS EVER EVOLVING
2:40:24PROCESS. I KNOW I'VE SAID THAT
2:40:25A COUPLE TIMES, BUT I WANT TO
2:40:26HIGHLIGHT THAT THE POLICE
2:40:27BUREAU IS A LEARNING
2:40:28ORGANIZATION. WE'VE
2:40:29DEMONSTRATED THAT WE WILL
2:40:30CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IN
2:40:32TERMS OF THE SUBJECTIVITY,
2:40:34THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A LEVEL OF
2:40:36SUBJECTIVITY. WE TRY TO, BY
2:40:39USING THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR,
2:40:40BY USING THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, BY
2:40:42USING THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, WE
2:40:43TRY TO USE OTHER VOICES TO BE
2:40:46AVAILABLE TO US, TO INFLUENCE
2:40:48TO WHAT IS GOING OUT. AND AS I
2:40:50SAID IN THIS LAST ONE, I REALLY
2:40:53APPRECIATED SEEING LEE'S
2:40:54COMMENTS WHERE WE MADE
2:40:55ADJUSTMENTS. SO PEOPLE ARE
2:40:56LEANING IN AND, AND THEN AFTER
2:40:59EACH ONE, WE DO HAVE AN
2:41:01EVALUATION. WE DO SEEK FEEDBACK.
2:41:03AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO BOTH
2:41:04INTERNALLY AND WE HEAR FROM
2:41:06PEOPLE EXTERNALLY. SO IT'S
2:41:07GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A WORK
2:41:09IN PROGRESS. THE INPUT THAT
2:41:11YOU'VE OFFERED TODAY, AS WELL
2:41:13AS, YOU KNOW, OTHERS THAT I'M
2:41:14SURE ARE WATCHING AND FEEDBACK,
2:41:16ETC. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO
2:41:18CONTINUE TO EVOLVE, BUT I JUST
2:41:19FEEL STRONGLY IN THE IMPORTANCE
2:41:22OF PROVIDING SOME LEVEL OF
2:41:23CONTEXT TO THIS VERY CRITICAL,
2:41:25VERY ESSENTIAL EVENT THAT
2:41:29PORTLANDERS NEED TO HAVE,
2:41:30KNOWING THE HUGE RESPONSIBILITY
2:41:32THAT COMES WITH IT, NOT JUST
2:41:33THE ACTIONS, BUT THE
2:41:34RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH
2:41:35THE MESSAGING TO IT. SO, YOU
2:41:38KNOW, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO
2:41:39TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION
2:41:41AND, AND WORK ON IT THAT WAY.
2:41:44>> I'D ASK THE FOLKS TO COME,
2:41:46COME BACK UP. ACTUALLY, THEY
2:41:50HAVE ALL OF YOU. HERE'S, HERE'S
2:41:51MY HERE'S MY QUESTION. HAS
2:41:54THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION OR
2:41:55COULD THERE BE ANY DISCUSSION
2:41:56ABOUT THE BUREAU SORT OF
2:41:58ENGAGING WITH PCCEP ON LOOKING
2:42:00OVER THE NARRATIVES AND, YOU
2:42:02KNOW, GIVING, GIVING
2:42:04SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW THE, YOU
2:42:06KNOW, HOW THE NARRATIVES MIGHT,
2:42:08YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU SEE ANY
2:42:11SUGGESTIONS YOU THINK YOU MIGHT
2:42:12MADE ABOUT HOW THE NARRATIVES
2:42:13MIGHT BE CHANGED, JUST HAS
2:42:15THERE BEEN SOME BACK AND FORTH
2:42:16BETWEEN PCCEP AND THE BUREAU
2:42:18ABOUT THE NARRATIVES THAT
2:42:19YOU'VE SEEN SO FAR?
2:42:22>> HISTORICALLY? NO, THAT HAS
2:42:23NOT BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS,
2:42:25COUNCILOR.
2:42:27>> YEAH, I CAN I CAN ADDRESS
2:42:29THAT. KIP SILVERMAN AGAIN, WE
2:42:33QUESTIONS ABOUT BODY WORN
2:42:35CAMERA IN THE TOWN HALL WE HAD
2:42:36ON DAYMON LAMAR JOHNSON. A LOT
2:42:39OF THESE TOPICS CAME UP OF HOW
2:42:42THINGS WERE PUT OUT THERE, HOW
2:42:46THE REACTION FROM THE COMMUNITY,
2:42:48WHETHER IT MET THE NEEDS. WE
2:42:52ENGAGE WITH PPB FREQUENTLY
2:42:54THROUGHOUT OUR MEETINGS. WE
2:42:55HAVE LIAISONS THAT SHOW UP.
2:42:57THEY ARE PARTY TO. I THINK
2:43:00NEARLY EVERY MEETING THAT I'VE
2:43:01BEEN INVOLVED IN, WE HAVE NOT
2:43:04HAD A REVISIT OF POLICY TOPIC
2:43:09ON BODY WORN CAMERAS, OTHER
2:43:11THAN SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT
2:43:12WE'VE HAD ABOUT DETAILS
2:43:17REVOLVING DIFFERENT EVENTS. BUT
2:43:19ABSOLUTELY, I FEEL THERE'S
2:43:21OPPORTUNITY HERE AND GABBY CAN
2:43:24AGREE WITH ME OR NOT THAT
2:43:25THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR
2:43:28FUTURE RECOMMENDATION AND
2:43:30CONVERSATION.
2:43:32>> YEAH. I MEAN, WHAT I'M
2:43:33ENVISIONING IS, I MEAN, THAT
2:43:35THEY'LL BE SORT OF AN ONGOING
2:43:36DIALOG WHERE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT
2:43:39THE VIDEO WITH THE NARRATION,
2:43:41AND YOU SORT OF SHARE YOUR
2:43:42FEEDBACK WITH THE BUREAU ON
2:43:44HERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS WE MAKE
2:43:45TO MAKE THE NARRATION MORE
2:43:47INFORMATIVE, MORE OBJECTIVE,
2:43:49ETC. COUNCILOR KANAL.
2:43:52>> YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT
2:43:53QUESTION.
2:43:54>> THANK YOU FOR THE RESPONSE.
2:43:55I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO
2:43:57RESPOND TO THAT. CHIEF DE TO
2:43:58THE PREVIOUS QUESTION, I, I
2:44:00WILL NOTE, YOU KNOW, PCCEP IS
2:44:02NOT NECESSARILY THE THE
2:44:04COMMUNITY ENTITY THAT REVIEWS
2:44:05THE FOOTAGE. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT
2:44:07CRC MEMBERS, THE PRB POOL AS
2:44:09WELL. THAT MAY ALSO BE
2:44:11WORTHWHILE IN TERMS OF THE
2:44:13SPECIFIC VIDEO BY VIDEO KIND OF
2:44:15REVIEW THAT YOU'RE TALKING
2:44:17ABOUT. BUT I DO THINK PCCEP
2:44:19BRINGS A DIFFERENT THING THAT I
2:44:20WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, WHICH IS
2:44:21THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE
2:44:23BROADER STRUCTURE AND SORT OF
2:44:26APPROACH. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO
2:44:28ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT THIS
2:44:30VIDEO, THIS PARTICULAR SCRIPT,
2:44:31THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I DON'T
2:44:33THINK PCCEP HAS DIRECTLY
2:44:34ADDRESSED THE QUESTION YET OF
2:44:36SHOULD THERE BE A NARRATED
2:44:39VERSION? AND I WOULD MY REQUEST,
2:44:41AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SUPERSEDE
2:44:43COUNCILOR NOVICK AT ALL, BUT MY
2:44:44REQUEST WOULD BE IF PCCEP COULD
2:44:46COULD CONSIDER THAT. AND, YOU
2:44:48KNOW, IF THERE'S NOT AN
2:44:50INTEREST IN IT, THERE'S NOT AN
2:44:51INTEREST IN IT FROM THE MEMBERS.
2:44:53THAT'S HOW THAT GOES. BUT, YOU
2:44:54KNOW, BECAUSE I, I AND OR IF
2:44:57THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT WHERE
2:44:59WHAT IS THE, THE SORT OF
2:45:01PRIMARY RELEASE IS, I THINK,
2:45:03REALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL. I
2:45:04THINK THAT'S THE PLACE WHERE
2:45:06THE TRUST PIECE COMES IN IS THE
2:45:08IDEA THAT THE FIRST THING I'M
2:45:09BEING TOLD IS EDITED, VERSUS
2:45:12THE IDEA THAT THE FIRST THING
2:45:13I'M BEING TOLD IS THAT I ALSO
2:45:15HAVE A FOLLOW UP FOR, FOR YOU,
2:45:17MIKE, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE,
2:45:18YOU HAVE WORKED ON THE OTHER
2:45:19SIDE OF THE RELEASES. AND SO
2:45:22I'M CURIOUS HOW IF YOU HAVE IF
2:45:25THAT'S SHAPED HOW YOU APPROACH
2:45:27THIS, BECAUSE I IMAGINE THAT
2:45:30THE THAT THERE IS A RISK
2:45:31ASSOCIATED WITH ALLOWING A
2:45:34THIRD PARTY ENTITY THAT'S IN
2:45:35THE, IN THE, THE MEDIA TO SORT
2:45:38OF DETERMINE WHAT THE STORY IS
2:45:41FROM A LARGE BODY OF, OF VIDEO
2:45:44FOOTAGE BEING RELEASED AT ONCE.
2:45:45AND I IMAGINE THAT'S A PART OF
2:45:47THE CONVERSATION.
2:45:47>> YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE
2:45:49QUESTION. AND JUST SO EVERYONE
2:45:50UNDERSTANDS WHAT YOU MIGHT BE
2:45:51REFERRING TO IS MY FORMER
2:45:52CAREER. I WAS MY FORMER LIFE,
2:45:54IF YOU WILL, WAS A REPORTER
2:45:55HERE AT KGW FOR 15 YEARS. I
2:45:58NEVER DID PUT TOGETHER A BODY
2:45:59WORN CAMERA STORIES BECAUSE
2:46:01THEY CAME ON BOARD AFTER I'D
2:46:02BEEN AT PPB. BUT I DO KNOW IN
2:46:06MY RESEARCH OF PUTTING THIS ALL
2:46:08TOGETHER, TALKING TO OTHER
2:46:11DEPARTMENTS, ONE THAT WE SAT
2:46:12DOWN VIRTUALLY WITH A NUMBER OF
2:46:13TIMES WAS THE LAS VEGAS
2:46:15METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
2:46:15AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID
2:46:17OUT OF THE GATE, WHICH IS
2:46:19SOMETHING I HAVE SEEN SINCE WE
2:46:20INSTITUTED ALL OF THIS, WAS THE
2:46:22CADENCE AND THE MEDIA'S
2:46:23UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN THEY'RE
2:46:26GOING TO GET THE VIDEO. SO NOW
2:46:28NO ONE ASKS ANYMORE BECAUSE
2:46:29THEY KNOW IT IS GOING TO BE
2:46:31RELEASED 14 DAYS AFTER THE
2:46:33INCIDENT, IN FACT, WOULD BE A
2:46:34COUPLE DAYS OUT AND SOMEONE
2:46:35WILL SEND AN EMAIL SAYING, HEY,
2:46:37YOU'RE STILL RELEASING THIS IN
2:46:38TWO DAYS. I SAID, WE ARE. IT'LL,
2:46:40IT'LL BE THERE. SO THERE'S THIS
2:46:41UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN MEDIA AND
2:46:43PPB WHEN THEY CAN EXPECT THE
2:46:45VIDEO. I DO KNOW AGAIN, KIND OF
2:46:47LIKE DUMPING UNEDITED RAW
2:46:49FOOTAGE ON THE COMMUNITY. IT
2:46:50WOULD BE INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT
2:46:52FOR, FOR MEDIA TO SIFT THROUGH
2:46:55THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF FOOTAGE.
2:46:57SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THAT
2:46:58QUESTION. AND THEN, IF I MAY,
2:46:59BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN
2:47:01ASKED DIRECTLY YET WHAT WE DO
2:47:04AT PPB OR SOME VARIATION OF IT
2:47:07AT THE END OF THE DAY IS BEST
2:47:10PRACTICE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL
2:47:12THE AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
2:47:13IN FACT, IN MY RESEARCH,
2:47:15TALKING TO MY COUNTERPART AT AN
2:47:17AGENCY ON THE EAST COAST, WHEN
2:47:19I REACHED OUT AND ASKED HIM
2:47:20ABOUT THIS, AND I HAVE A WEALTH
2:47:22OF RESPECT FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL,
2:47:23AS HE'S BEEN IN THE BUSINESS
2:47:25DECADES LONGER THAN I DID. HE
2:47:26SAYS, MIKE, I DO NOT KNOW OF AN
2:47:28AGENCY ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT
2:47:30RELEASES UNEDITED FOOTAGE
2:47:31WITHOUT CONTEXT. ULTIMATELY, IS
2:47:34MY BELIEF THAT IT'S DANGEROUS
2:47:36AND RECKLESS TO DO SO, AND THAT
2:47:40WE'D BE TAKING AWAY THE CHOICE
2:47:42OF OF COMMUNITY TO SEE TWO
2:47:44VERSIONS, WHETHER IT'S THE
2:47:45NARRATED, BECAUSE THEY ONLY
2:47:46HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES OR HOUR,
2:47:48HOUR AND A HALF IF THEY DON'T.
2:47:50SO WHILE WE'RE EVOLVING, I
2:47:52THINK WE I TRULY BELIEVE WHAT
2:47:54WE'RE DOING. THESE
2:47:56CONVERSATIONS ARE GREAT. WE CAN
2:47:58FINE TUNE THE PROCESS AND, AND,
2:48:02AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH
2:48:03MORE OF THESE, UNFORTUNATELY.
2:48:05BUT I DO STAND BY. I THINK WHAT
2:48:07WE DO IS I BELIEVE IT IS BEST
2:48:09PRACTICE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
2:48:10>> WE'VE GOT A HARD STOP AT
2:48:121215 COUNCILOR KANAL DO YOU
2:48:14HAVE 30S.
2:48:14>> YEP.
2:48:15>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I'LL
2:48:16PROBABLY FOLLOW UP WITH SOME
2:48:17MORE, BUT JUST BECAUSE I KNOW
2:48:19THE CHIEF HAS TIME AT THE VERY
2:48:20BEGINNING, YOU DID NOTED THE
2:48:22DISTINCTION BETWEEN A DIRECTIVE
2:48:23AND AN SOP. SO I GUESS MY
2:48:25QUESTION IS IF YOU SO CHOSE,
2:48:28BECAUSE THIS IS AN SOP, IT
2:48:29WOULD BE RELATIVELY EASY TO
2:48:30CHANGE IT. IS THAT ACCURATE?
2:48:32>> YES, I CHANGED IT TWO WEEKS
2:48:33AGO.
2:48:34>> OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S IT.
2:48:36APPRECIATE IT.
2:48:37>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
2:48:38MUCH. LET'S SEE. THE NEXT
2:48:41MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE ISN'T
2:48:42UNTIL NOVEMBER 17TH. I'M GOING
2:48:45TO BE IN NASHVILLE FOR THE
2:48:46LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING,
2:48:47TRYING TO CONVINCE OTHER CITIES
2:48:48TO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD
2:48:50ANNOUNCE THAT WE WANT TO BUY
2:48:51SMART GUNS FOR OUR POLICE
2:48:52FORCES. SO COUNCILOR MORILLO IS
2:48:54GOING TO BE RUNNING THAT
2:48:55MEETING AND IS THINKING OVER
2:48:58WHAT THE CONTENT IS GOING TO BE.
2:48:59THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AND WE
2:49:01THE THIS MEETING OF COMMUNITY
2:49:02AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IS
2:49:05ADJOURNED.
