2026-10-13 - Public Works Committee
Summary
Based on uploaded (human-made) captions, not auto-generated; minor errors are possible. Captions run from 6:07 to 2:52:05. Captions show no speech during the break from 1:51:48 to 2:05:51 (about 14 minutes), and that time is not counted as discussion.
Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk):
| Topic | Minutes | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Local Regulation of Automated Vehicles | 58 | 38% |
| Citywide Asset Management Strategy | 46 | 30% |
| Lloyd Event District Event Parking Rate | 35 | 23% |
| ODOT Naito Parkway Property Transfer MOU | 10 | 7% |
| Other business | 3 | 2% |
- Tuesday, October 13, 2026.
- Chair Clark called the meeting to order at 9:32 a.m. (about 6:27 on the recording); it adjourned at 2:52:05, around 12:15 p.m. Councilor Green, Vice Chair Smith, Councilor Kanal, Councilor Koyama Lane and Clark answered the roll call.
- The first two items (documents 2026-358 and 2026-357) were presentations and discussion with no action; the committee then took a break.
- It voted 5-0 on each of the last two items to refer them to the full Council with a "do pass" recommendation.
Citywide Asset Management Strategy
8:32-54:05
- Raymond Lee (city administrator) said infrastructure is at the top of his concerns and that future bond conversations depend on prioritizing; Clark noted the city owns over 80 billion dollars in assets and many are near failure.
- Emily Triche (the city's first Chief Asset Management Officer) and Tate White presented the first citywide strategy: about 82 billion dollars in replacement value, growing capital gaps, a 2035 vision and six objectives (governance, data and an asset register, investment prioritization, life-cycle and equity, seismic and climate resilience, public trust). A financial strategy is due this winter and Triche returns to Council in spring.
- Smith was "underwhelmed" and wanted an asset-by-asset registry with locations, condition and repair cost, an equity lens by district and brownfield counts; Millicent Williams promised lists, maps and dashboards in January.
- Green asked about the risk framework (Triche: ISO risk standards); Kanal asked for data by asset type rather than bureau and raised engagement standards; Koyama Lane asked about the equity framework and the cross-bureau governance charter.
- Out of time, Clark asked Triche to meet each member individually. No vote.
Local Regulation of Automated Vehicles
54:09-1:51:45
- Clark said the city is not ready for robotaxis but needs a framework ahead of possible state preemption; an ordinance and resolution are planned for a hearing on October 27.
- Shoshana Cohen, Jacob Sherman and Hannah Morrison (Portland Bureau of Transportation) presented the background and package: operating area approval, battery-electric and Oregon-registered vehicles, 50,000 test miles before for-hire permits, small fleet caps reviewed yearly, fleet-wide suspension metrics, a 30-second limit for stops in bike lanes, limits on data sale and sharing, US-based remote operators, and a per-trip driver support fee. Rules would not take effect before July 1, 2027.
- Smith pressed on displaced drivers and safety; staff said the economic impact is real and the fee is the main mitigation. Koyama Lane favored starting from "no" and asked about emergency vehicle access and engagement.
- Kanal called for an outright ban, an amendment requiring a human driver (plus repeal of the 2017 resolution), and said the fleet caps and the data rules are too weak; Green backed a ban or, failing that, a human safety operator. Clark said she also opposes Waymo but expects preemption and wants the best local package, and acknowledged she could be outvoted. No vote.
Lloyd Event District Event Parking Rate
2:06:01-2:41:21
- Document 2026-364: raise the event parking rate from 5.40 to 8 dollars an hour on the highest-demand blocks of the Elliott neighborhood during Moda Center events (peak occupancy was 96 percent in a March study), presented by Kristen Hall and Reilly Stark.
- A resident supported it; the neighborhood association co-chair asked for an amendment to authorize the North and Northeast parking district and a stakeholder committee. PBOT said that plan needs 6 to 8 more weeks of outreach and would return around January; Wendy Cully asked for the time, and the amendment was not moved.
- Kanal (whose district includes the area) asked about signage, enforcement, garage impacts, affordability and a nearby brewery; Green wanted a firm return date. Kanal moved and Smith seconded "do pass"; roll call 5-0.
ODOT Naito Parkway Property Transfer MOU
2:41:35-2:51:17
- Document 2026-365: accept two ODOT parcels next to the International School and approve an MOU for future transfers of the remaining jointly owned former freeway land, with options to buy, trade or combine; presented by David McEldowney.
- Smith asked about affordable housing potential; Kanal asked about the MOU's fallback and said clear city control helps future affordable housing. No testimony. Green moved and Kanal seconded; roll call 5-0.
Other business
- Opening statement of conduct and agenda overview; at adjournment Clark said the next meeting is October 27, continuing automated vehicles with more administrative items from PBOT.
Agenda
- Document 2026-358: Citywide Asset Management Strategy.
- Document 2026-357: Local Regulation of Automated Vehicles.
- Document 2026-364: Lloyd Event District Event Parking Rate (amend the Transportation Fee Schedule; referred to Council).
- Document 2026-365: ODOT Naito Parkway Property Transfer MOU (accept ODOT property and approve an MOU; referred to Council).
Video and summary: 2026-10-13 - Public Works Committee.
Sources
- Video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bYbmLvLvD3M
- Agenda: https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/public-works-committee/2026/10/13
Video
Transcript
These are uploaded (human-made) English captions; minor errors are possible.
Transcript
06:07>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. IT'S
06:09A THIN CROWD OUT THERE TODAY.
06:14I'D LIKE TO. WHERE ARE OUR FANS?
06:16>> I COULDN'T FIND A RIDESHARE.
06:18>> OR A PARKING SPACE. OR OR OR
06:20THE DOOR. WHICH DOOR ARE WE
06:22USING? I'M GOING TO CALL THE
06:23MEETING OF THE PUBLIC WORKS
06:25COMMITTEE TO ORDER. IT IS
06:27TUESDAY, OCTOBER 13TH AT 932.
06:32ANNA, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE
06:34ROLL?
06:35>> GOOD MORNING. GREEN.
06:39>> HERE.
06:40>> SMITH HERE.
06:43>> KANAL HERE.
06:46>> KOYAMA LANE.
06:46>> HERE.
06:47>> CLARK.
06:48>> HERE. AND, CHRISTOPHER, CAN
06:50YOU PLEASE READ THE STATEMENT
06:52OF CONDUCT? AND GOOD MORNING.
06:53NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE.
06:54>> GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO THE
06:56MEETING OF THE PUBLIC WORKS
06:57COMMITTEE. TO TESTIFY BEFORE
06:58THIS COMMITTEE IN PERSON OR
06:59VIRTUALLY. YOU MUST SIGN UP IN
07:01ADVANCE IN THE COMMITTEE AGENDA
07:07AT
07:07WWW.PORTLAND.GOV/AGENDA/PUBLIC-E
07:08OR BY CALLING 311. REGISTRATION
07:10FOR VIRTUAL TESTIMONY CLOSES
07:11ONE HOUR PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
07:13IN PERSON, TESTIFIERS MUST SIGN
07:14UP BEFORE THE AGENDA ITEM IS
07:15HEARD. IF PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL
07:17BE TAKEN ON AN ITEM,
07:18INDIVIDUALS MAY TESTIFY FOR
07:19THREE MINUTES UNLESS THE CHAIR
07:20STATES OTHERWISE, YOUR
07:21MICROPHONE WILL BE MUTED. WHEN
07:22YOUR TIME IS OVER, THE CHAIR
07:24PRESERVES ORDER DISRUPTIVE
07:24CONDUCT SUCH AS SHOUTING,
07:25REFUSING TO CONCLUDE YOUR
07:26TESTIMONY WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP,
07:28OR INTERRUPTING OTHERS
07:29TESTIMONY OR COMMITTEE
07:29DELIBERATIONS WILL NOT BE
07:30ALLOWED. IF YOU CAUSE A
07:32DISRUPTION, A WARNING WILL BE
07:33GIVEN. FURTHER DISRUPTION WILL
07:34RESULT IN EJECTION FROM THE
07:35MEETING. ANYONE WHO FAILS TO
07:36LEAVE ONCE EJECTED IS SUBJECT
07:38TO ARREST FOR TRESPASS.
07:39ADDITIONALLY, THE COMMITTEE MAY
07:40TAKE A SHORT RECESS AND
07:41RECONVENE VIRTUALLY. YOUR
07:42TESTIMONY SHOULD ADDRESS THE
07:43MATTER BEING CONSIDERED WHEN
07:44TESTIFYING. STATE YOUR NAME FOR
07:45THE RECORD. IF YOU'RE A
07:46LOBBYIST, IDENTIFY THE
07:47ORGANIZATION YOU REPRESENT.
07:48VIRTUAL TESTIFIER SHOULD UNMUTE
07:49THEMSELVES WHEN THE CLERK CALLS
07:50YOUR NAME. THANK YOU.
07:51>> THANK YOU. CHRISTOPHER. OUR
07:53COLLEAGUES, TODAY WE HAVE A
07:54VERY FULL, MEATY AGENDA, VERY
07:58MEATY TOPICS. WE'RE GOING TO
07:59SPEND THE FIRST PART OF OUR
08:00MEETING DISCUSSING THE CITYWIDE
08:02ASSET MANAGEMENT STRATEGY, AND
08:04THEN MOVE TO POLICY CONCEPTS
08:05FOR REGULATING AUTONOMOUS
08:07VEHICLES. WE'LL TAKE A BREAK.
08:09AND WE HAVE TWO ORDINANCES FROM
08:11PBOT. FIRST IS AN ORDINANCE TO
08:13ADDRESS PARKING ISSUES IN THE
08:14LLOYD DISTRICT. LLOYD EVENT
08:16DISTRICT. AND THE SECOND
08:17ORDINANCE IS A REAL PROPERTY
08:19TRANSFER AND AN MOU BETWEEN
08:22ODOT AND PBOT. SO WITH THAT,
08:27DIANA, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL
08:29THE FIRST ITEM.
08:32>> ITEM NUMBER ONE. DOCUMENT
08:33NUMBER 2026-358. CITYWIDE ASSET
08:38MANAGEMENT STRATEGY.
08:40>> COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, THIS
08:42IS OUR LONG ANTICIPATED
08:43CITYWIDE ASSET MANAGEMENT
08:44STRATEGY. IT'S HERE ALMOST
08:48COMPLETE. I'M DELIGHTED TO
08:51WELCOME OUR CITY'S FIRST EVER
08:52CHIEF ASSET MANAGEMENT OFFICER,
08:55EMILY TRICHE. I KNOW THERE ARE
08:57SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT TO CALL
08:58YOUR LAST NAME TRENCH, WHICH WE
09:00THINK WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE
09:01FOR PUBLIC WORKS. AND EMILY IS
09:04HERE, ALONG WITH TATE WHITE,
09:06WHO'S BEEN SHEPHERDING THIS
09:07WORK FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF
09:08YEARS. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK
09:10ABOUT THE INITIAL STRATEGY,
09:11KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE'RE
09:13ANTICIPATING THE FUNDING
09:15STRATEGY, MORE INFORMATION TO
09:16COME TO US IN DECEMBER. BUT
09:18WHAT I'D FIRST LIKE TO DO IS TO
09:20INVITE OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR,
09:21RAYMOND LEE, TO MAKE SOME
09:23OPENING COMMENTS ABOUT THIS
09:25TOPIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
09:26BEING HERE WITH US.
09:28>> THANK YOU, VICE PRESIDENT
09:29CLARK, AND JUST THANK THE
09:31COMMITTEE FOR HAVING ME THIS
09:33MORNING TO TALK ABOUT THIS
09:34TOPIC. WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF
09:37THE CORE THINGS THAT ARE
09:38IMPACTING NOT WHERE WE ARE
09:40TODAY ONLY, BUT WHERE WE WILL
09:42BE IN THE FUTURE, ASSETS IS AT
09:44THE TOP OF THAT CONVERSATION.
09:47HOW WE ARE MAINTAINING WHAT WE
09:49HAVE TODAY TO BUILD A
09:51PROSPEROUS FUTURE IS REALLY
09:52DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
09:54MADE TODAY. NOW, I KNOW THIS
09:56ELECTED BODY DID NOT PUT US IN
09:57THE POSITION THAT WE ARE IN
09:59TODAY, AND I KNOW THIS ELECTED
10:01BODY, THOUGH, WILL HAVE TO MAKE
10:04SOME VERY HARD DECISIONS AS IT
10:07RELATES TO HOW DO WE MOVE
10:09FORWARD AS A CITY THAT IS
10:10INVESTING IN ITS INFRASTRUCTURE
10:12AND ITS ASSETS OVERALL? AND
10:14WHAT ARE WE SAYING IS IMPORTANT
10:17TO US AS A CITY, AND WHAT ARE
10:18OUR PRIORITIES IN THIS? THIS
10:21WORK THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW
10:23IS MUCH BIGGER THAN JUST
10:24PROVIDING A REPORT TO THE CITY
10:26COUNCIL AS IT RELATES TO WHAT
10:28OUR ASSETS ARE, WHAT ARE THE
10:30CONDITION THAT THEY'RE IN
10:31CURRENTLY IS REALLY TALKING
10:33ABOUT HOW ARE WE BUILDING
10:34TOWARDS OUR FUTURE AS A CITY?
10:37THIS WILL BE A BUILDING BLOCK
10:39IN THAT LARGER SYSTEM OF REALLY
10:43INVESTING IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE
10:44AND OUR ASSETS OVERALL AS A
10:47CITY, THERE WILL BE FUTURE
10:49CONVERSATIONS AS IT RELATES TO
10:51POTENTIAL BOND PROGRAMS. THERE
10:53WILL BE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS AS
10:55IT RELATES TO WHAT ARE WE
10:57PRIORITIZING WITHIN A BOND
10:59PROGRAM, BECAUSE WE'RE SO FAR
11:01BEHIND ON OUR ASSETS TODAY,
11:03THERE'S NO OTHER AVENUE FOR US
11:05TO REALLY EXPLORE FINANCIALLY
11:07OUTSIDE OF LOOKING AT THOSE
11:10FINANCIAL TOOLS TO BRING US
11:12BACK INTO A CONDITION THAT WE
11:15ALL SEE AS SUFFICIENT FOR OUR
11:18CITY, OF OUR SIZE AND SCOPE IN
11:20THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE
11:21DELIVERING TO A VAST COMMUNITY
11:24AND REALLY REGION, BECAUSE WE
11:26KNOW WE TALK ABOUT THE CITY OF
11:28PORTLAND'S POPULATION ROUGHLY
11:30AROUND 650,000, BUT OUR REGION
11:33POPULATION IS 2.4 MILLION. AND
11:35THAT REGION STILL USES THIS
11:38CITY AS A HUB FOR RESOURCES AND
11:41SERVICES. AND THAT HAS A
11:43TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF IMPACT ON
11:44OUR RESOURCES AS A CITY. ONE OF
11:47THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT CONCERN
11:49ME WHEN COMING INTO THE CITY
11:51AND GETTING A TOUR DATE AT THAT
11:53TIME, WAS A PART OF THAT TOUR.
11:54AND LOOKING AT OUR ASSETS AS A
11:56WHOLE, IT'S VERY CONCERNING THE
11:58CONDITION THAT WE'RE IN AS A
12:00CITY. AND I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW
12:03WE'RE NOT AT THE POSITION THAT
12:04I WOULD SAY FOR MY PROFESSIONAL
12:06EXPERTISE, WE NEED TO BE AS A
12:07CITY AS IT RELATES TO THE
12:09INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING
12:11IN THE ASSETS AND
12:12INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE AS
12:14A CITY. SO I WELCOME THIS
12:16CONVERSATION. I WANT TO BE AT
12:17THE FOREFRONT OF THIS
12:19CONVERSATION. THIS IS A PART OF
12:20THE REASON THAT WE'RE DEDICATED.
12:21AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR
12:23APPROVING THE BUDGET TO UPGRADE
12:25THIS POSITION IN THE CITY SO IT
12:28CAN HAVE THE THE LEVEL OF
12:32EXPERTISE, BUT ALSO THE
12:34HIERARCHY WITHIN THE
12:35ORGANIZATION TO TRULY HAVE
12:38GUIDANCE AND WHERE WE'RE
12:39HEADING AS A CITY AND BE ABLE
12:41TO INFLUENCE THAT AND BE
12:43INTENTIONAL ABOUT HOW THAT
12:44INFLUENCE HAPPENS. SO I KNOW
12:46THIS IS A COMMITMENT FROM THIS
12:47COUNCIL AS WE WENT THROUGH THE
12:49BUDGETING PROCESS. AS WE
12:50CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE
12:52CONVERSATIONS, I WANT YOU TO
12:53KNOW IT'S AT THE TOP OF MY LIST,
12:55AS WELL AS THE CITY
12:56ADMINISTRATOR TO ENSURE THAT
12:57WE'RE SETTING THE CITY UP NOT
12:59FOR ONLY CURRENT SUCCESS, BUT
13:00LONG TERM SUCCESS AS WELL. AND
13:02I'M SORRY, COUNCIL, I WON'T BE
13:03ABLE TO RUN BECAUSE IT IS
13:05BUDGET SEASON AND WE GOT SOME
13:06BUDGET MEETINGS STARTING OFF
13:07LIKE WE JUST ENDED, BUT WE'RE
13:09BACK IN THE MIX AGAIN.
13:10>> WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
13:12BEING HERE AND REALLY PROVIDING
13:13US A CONTEXT FOR THIS
13:15DISCUSSION. I APPRECIATE THE
13:16YOUR LOOK AT THE REGION AND THE
13:18STATE AND REALLY PUT IN CONTEXT,
13:20I'M SURE THAT IN YOUR
13:21EXPERIENCE, WE DON'T STACK UP
13:22VERY WELL AGAINST OTHER CITIES
13:24OF OUR SIZE. WE ARE SO FAR
13:26BEHIND. AND THIS IS THE FIRST
13:27ISSUE THAT THIS COMMITTEE TOOK
13:29UP TWO YEARS AGO. WE KNEW THE
13:31GRAVITY OF IT. WE HAD READ THE
13:33AUDITOR'S REPORTS ABOUT HOW BAD
13:35OFF WE ARE, AND SOME OF US TALK
13:37ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME IN THE
13:39COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I DON'T
13:40THINK THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE
13:41WHO LIVE IN PORTLAND,
13:43UNDERSTAND THAT WE OWN OVER $80
13:45BILLION WORTH OF ASSETS, AND SO
13:47MANY OF THEM ARE ON THE VERGE
13:49OF FAILURE. SO THIS IS A
13:51CRITICAL AND I SO MUCH
13:52APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP IN
13:54THIS. SO LET'S CALL UP OUR TWO
13:58FOLKS, EMILY AND TATE. DO YOU
14:00WANT TO COME ON UP AND WALK US
14:02THROUGH THIS? GIVE US A LITTLE
14:05STATUS REPORT AND WELCOME. GOOD
14:08TO SEE YOU AGAIN, TATE AND
14:09EMILY, WELCOME. FIRST TIME, I
14:12THINK, BEFORE A COMMITTEE.
14:13>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
14:16>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU.
14:17CHAIR CLARK, VICE CHAIR SMITH
14:20AND COUNCILORS KOYAMA LANE
14:22KANAL AND GREEN. MY NAME IS
14:25TATE WHITE. I USE SHE THEY
14:27PRONOUNS AND I'M THE DEPUTY
14:28DIRECTOR OF THE BUREAU OF
14:29PLANNING AND SUSTAINABILITY
14:31WHILE I GET US SET UP. I'M
14:34REALLY THRILLED TO INTRODUCE
14:38CHIEF ASSET MANAGEMENT OFFICER
14:39EMILY TRISH, OUR FIRST ONE. DO
14:41YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW OPENING
14:42REMARKS, EMILY?
14:44>> SURE. THANK YOU. GOOD
14:45MORNING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS
14:47EMILY TRICHE AND I AM YOUR
14:49CHIEF ASSET MANAGEMENT OFFICER.
14:50I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE
14:52JOINING YOU IN THIS IMPORTANT
14:54MISSION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND
14:55FOR PORTLAND. I WANT TO THANK
14:57YOU FOR YOUR VISION,
14:59RECOGNIZING INFRASTRUCTURE
15:00ASSET MANAGEMENT AS
15:01FOUNDATIONAL TO PORTLAND'S
15:02FUTURE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE
15:04PLAN, BUILD, OPERATE, AND
15:06MAINTAIN IS MORE THAN JUST A
15:08COLLECTION OF PHYSICAL ASSETS
15:10UNDERPINS OUR ECONOMY. IT'S KEY
15:11TO PUBLIC SAFETY, AND IT
15:13SUPPORTS THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF
15:14EVERY PORTLANDER. GOING FORWARD,
15:16WE WILL CREATE A SHARED
15:17APPROACH TO MANAGING OUR ASSETS,
15:20SUPPORTING BETTER INFORMED
15:21DECISIONS, DIRECTING RESOURCES
15:23WHERE THEY PROVIDE THE GREATEST
15:24VALUE, AND STRENGTHENING OUR
15:26ABILITY TO DELIVER FOR
15:28PORTLAND'S NEEDS TODAY AND FOR
15:29THE LONG TERM. SO THE STRATEGY
15:31YOU'LL BE RECEIVING THIS
15:32MORNING IS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN
15:34THIS PROCESS. I'M LOOKING
15:36FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
15:37PARTNERS ACROSS THE CITY TO
15:39ALIGN OUR EFFORTS, MAKING THE
15:40BEST USE OF OUR RESOURCES, AND
15:42DELIVERING BETTER OUTCOMES FOR
15:43THE PEOPLE WE SERVE. NOW, I'LL
15:46TURN IT BACK OVER TO DEPUTY
15:47DIRECTOR WHITE TO PRESENT THE
15:48ASSET MANAGEMENT STRATEGY.
15:52>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU,
15:54OFFICER TRISH. SO I'M REALLY
16:00PROUD TO PRESENT YOU ALL THE
16:01FIRST ITERATION OF THE CITYWIDE
16:03ASSET MANAGEMENT STRATEGY. IT'S
16:05PORTLAND'S FIRST, AND I WANT TO
16:08THANK THE MANY COLLEAGUES WHO
16:09HAVE WORKED WITH ME ON THIS
16:12STRATEGY. BEFORE WE GET INTO
16:14THE STRATEGY'S VISION AND
16:16OBJECTIVES, WE WILL REVIEW A
16:18CURRENT STATE OF INFRASTRUCTURE
16:21AND ASSET MANAGEMENT IN
16:23PORTLAND. WE'LL REVIEW THAT
16:24OVER OVERALL, AND WE'LL TALK
16:26ABOUT THE MANY BENEFITS THAT WE
16:28CAN ACHIEVE FROM GOOD PRACTICES
16:31AND ASSET MANAGEMENT. WE'LL
16:34THEN END BY TALKING ABOUT
16:36GOVERNANCE AND IMPLEMENTATION.
16:37AND WE REALLY WELCOME YOUR
16:39QUESTIONS. SO IN SHORT, ASSET
16:43MANAGEMENT IS A SYSTEM OF TOOLS
16:45THAT ALLOW US TO MAINTAIN,
16:48EXPAND AND IMPROVE
16:50INFRASTRUCTURE TO DELIVER
16:51OUTCOMES TO THE COMMUNITY,
16:54INCLUDING SERVICES AND
16:56ACHIEVING EQUITABLE OUTCOMES.
16:58ASSETS ARE PHYSICAL ITEMS THAT
17:00PROVIDE A VALUE OR A SERVICE.
17:03OUR FOCUS IS ON THE BUILT AND
17:05NATURAL ASSETS, GRAY AND GREEN
17:08INFRASTRUCTURE THAT PROVIDE
17:09IMPORTANT SERVICES TO OUR
17:11COMMUNITY AND THE ORGANIZATION.
17:13WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
17:15INFRASTRUCTURE ASSET MANAGEMENT,
17:16WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE
17:18TAKE CARE OF ROADS, PARKS,
17:21BRIDGES, NATURAL SYSTEMS,
17:22COMMUNITY FACILITIES, AND THE
17:24MASSIVE URBAN FRAMEWORK THAT
17:26FORMS THE BACKBONE OF PUBLIC
17:29SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY,
17:30BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S
17:31ABOUT. SO THE CITY ASSET
17:35MANAGERS GROUP, ALSO KNOWN AS
17:36CAMG FOR SHORT, HAS BEEN
17:38PRODUCING AN ANNUAL REPORT ON
17:40THE STATUS AND CONDITION OF THE
17:42CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OVER
17:4420 YEARS. THAT'S ACTUALLY IN
17:46CITY POLICY. IN THE JUNE
17:49PRESENTATION, I MENTIONED THAT
17:50WE ARE WORKING ON THIS REPORT
17:52IN TANDEM WITH THE STRATEGY,
17:53AND IT IS PROVIDED AS AN
17:55ATTACHMENT. DOZENS OF
17:58PROFESSIONALS AND DATA SYSTEMS
17:59CONTRIBUTE TO THIS ANNUAL
18:01REPORT, AND IT PROVIDES GOOD
18:03INFORMATION ON OVERALL
18:04PORTFOLIO, TRENDS AND CONTEXT.
18:08HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT
18:09THERE ARE INCONSISTENT METHODS
18:11AND RELIABILITY THAT UNDERPIN
18:13THE DATA COLLECTION, PROCESSING
18:15AND REPORTING. THE STRATEGY
18:18AIMS TO ADDRESS THIS
18:20VARIABILITY WITH STRONGER DATA
18:22GOVERNANCE AND THE DEVELOPMENT
18:24OF CITY WIDE STANDARDS AND
18:26FRAMEWORKS. THESE WILL PROMOTE
18:29ACCOUNTABILITY AND CONSISTENCY
18:31WHILE RETAINING FLEXIBILITY FOR
18:34SPECIFIC ASSET CLASS
18:35DIFFERENCES. THE CHIEF ASSET
18:38MANAGEMENT OFFICER WILL BE
18:39ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS REPORTING
18:40GOING FORWARD, IN COORDINATION
18:42WITH THE MANY PROFESSIONALS WHO
18:44CONTRIBUTE TO IT. SO THE CITY
18:49OF PORTLAND, AS WE'VE BEEN
18:51DISCUSSING, MANAGES AN
18:52ESTIMATED 82 BILLION IN PUBLIC
18:55INFRASTRUCTURE SPANNING WATER,
18:57SEWER, TRANSPORTATION, PARKS
18:59AND NATURAL AREAS, CIVIC
19:02FACILITIES, EMERGENCY RESPONSE
19:04EQUIPMENT, TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS,
19:06CULTURAL VENUES AND ECONOMIC
19:08DEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES. THE
19:10VALUE SHOWN IS KNOWN AS
19:12REPLACEMENT VALUE, WHICH MEANS
19:13THE CAPITAL COST OF REBUILDING
19:16SOMETHING IN TODAY'S MONETARY
19:18VALUE, $82 BILLION IS A LOT OF
19:21MONEY, SO EVEN THE SMALLER
19:23PERCENTAGES ON HERE ARE REALLY
19:25SIGNIFICANT VALUES. WE ARE
19:28PROVIDING SOME CITY WIDE
19:29HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE REPORT
19:30TODAY, BUT THERE'S MORE SERVICE
19:32AREA AND PROGRAM SPECIFIC
19:35INFORMATION IN THAT REPORT THAT
19:36YOU CAN DIG INTO FOR REFERENCE.
19:40SO THE CHART ON THIS SLIDE
19:42SHOWS CURRENT ASSET CONDITION
19:44FOR EACH PROGRAM WEIGHTED FOR
19:47REPLACEMENT VALUE. EACH BAR IS
19:50A BUREAU OR A PROGRAM, AND THE
19:52COLORS WITHIN THAT BAR
19:54REPRESENT THE PERCENTAGE OF
19:55THEIR ASSETS IN THE
19:57>> A CONDITION SHOWN IN THE
19:59LEGEND WITHOUT READING IT, YOU
20:01CAN GET A GOOD SENSE OF
20:03CONDITION PROFILES BY LOOKING
20:05AT THE COLOR DISTRIBUTION. BLUE
20:07AND GREEN ARE GOOD YELLOW, FAIR
20:10AND ORANGE AND RED. POOR AND
20:12VERY. WHILE MANY ASSET
20:15PORTFOLIOS ARE IN FAIR TO GOOD
20:16CONDITION, WHICH IS. OF NOTE.
20:19OTHERS, PARTICULARLY
20:21TRANSPORTATION, PAVEMENT, PARKS,
20:23FACILITIES, PUBLIC SAFETY
20:26FACILITIES AND OLDER CULTURAL
20:27VENUES HAVE A GROWING. HAVE
20:29GROWING SHARES OF ASSETS AND
20:30POOR TO VERY POOR CONDITION. IN
20:33SOME INSTANCES, A LEVEL OF POOR
20:35CONDITION IS BOTH EXPECTED AND
20:37STRATEGICALLY MANAGED WITH A
20:39RUN TO FAILURE APPROACH. WE
20:41TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME AND
20:43I USED THE EXAMPLE OF TIRES ON
20:44A CAR. YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY
20:46REPLACE THEM ALL WHEN THEY'RE
20:47IN FAIR CONDITION. YOU'D SORT
20:49OF WAIT FOR THEM TO GET TO THE
20:51END OF THEIR LIFE CYCLE,
20:53BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE FROM A
20:54COST STANDPOINT. SO ACROSS ALL
21:01BUREAUS, ANNUAL AND FORECASTED
21:03TEN YEAR CAPITAL GAPS CONTINUE
21:06TO GROW AS AGING ASSETS MEET
21:08INFLATION, STRICTER REGULATORY
21:11REQUIREMENTS, SEISMIC
21:12VULNERABILITY, AND ACCELERATING
21:14CLIMATE IMPACTS. MOST OF THESE
21:16GAPS ARE RELATED TO MAINTENANCE
21:18OR REPLACEMENT NEEDS, AND GAPS
21:20FROM THE LESS MATURE GROUPS ARE
21:22LIKELY UNDERESTIMATED. COMPARED
21:24TO THE MORE MATURE UTILITY
21:27BUREAUS. THE GRAPH ON THIS
21:30SLIDE SHOWS EACH BUREAU'S TEN
21:31YEAR CAPITAL FUNDING GAP AS A
21:33PERCENTAGE OF THAT GROUP'S
21:36OVERALL ASSET VALUE. THIS
21:38PERSPECTIVE IS IMPORTANT
21:39BECAUSE IT SHOWS THE
21:40SIGNIFICANCE OF EACH BUREAU'S
21:42REPORTED FUNDING GAP RELATIVE
21:43TO THE SIZE OF THEIR PORTFOLIO.
21:49RESULTING RESULTING FAILURES OF
21:51ASSETS FROM LACK OF INVESTMENT
21:54CAN CHALLENGE SERVICE
21:56RELIABILITY, SAFETY, ACCESS AND
22:00LIVABILITY FOR PORTLANDERS. IF
22:02WE DON'T INVEST IN ASSET
22:04MANAGEMENT, WE ARE LIKELY TO
22:05SEE EXPONENTIALLY INCREASING
22:08CLOSURES AND DECREASES IN
22:10SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. WE
22:12RISK CATASTROPHIC FAILURES OF
22:14MAJOR ASSETS LIKE BRIDGES, WITH
22:16ESCALATING NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO
22:18PUBLIC SAFETY AND ECONOMIC
22:20DEVELOPMENT. FAILURES OF SOME
22:24ASSETS COULD LEAD TO MAJOR
22:26SERVICE DISRUPTIONS AND THREATS
22:29TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND
22:31ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. AND
22:35CONTINUED DETERIORATION OF
22:37AMENITIES WILL HAVE CUMULATIVE
22:39NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON COMMUNITY
22:43EXPERIENCE AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
22:45ISSUES WILL CONTINUE TO BE
22:46PUSHED OFF ON FUTURE
22:48GENERATIONS AND BECOME MORE AND
22:49MORE COSTLY. EARLY INTERVENTION
22:56AND AN ASSET'S DETERIORATION
22:58CYCLE HELPS PREVENT THESE MORE
23:00SIGNIFICANT AND COSTLY FAILURES.
23:03ASSET MANAGEMENT CAN BE USED TO
23:05ACHIEVE EFFICIENCIES AND COST
23:08SAVINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, EVERY $1
23:11OF PLANNED MAINTENANCE CAN
23:13AVOID ROUGHLY 5 TO 10 OF
23:15REACTIVE REPAIR. HIGHER UPFRONT
23:18COSTS CAN PRODUCE SUBSTANTIALLY
23:21LOWER LIFETIME COSTS. THE
23:23FIGURES ON THIS SLIDE ARE
23:24INTENDED TO PROVIDE A SENSE OF
23:26RELATIVE SCALE, AND ACTUAL
23:28VALUES DEPEND ON ASSET CLASS
23:31MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE
23:33STRATEGY, AND FAILURE MODE. THE
23:35KEY POINT IS THAT ADDRESSING
23:36THE INVESTMENT GAP IS NOT
23:38SIMPLY A REVENUE PROBLEM, IT IS
23:40A SYSTEMS PROBLEM AS WELL. BUT
23:43WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
23:45MANAGING FOR RISK FOCUSING ON
23:47INFRASTRUCTURE, SERVICES AND
23:49OUTCOMES. PRIORITIZING CARE FOR
23:51WHAT WE OWN OVER BUILDING NEW
23:54FUNDING, MAINTENANCE AND SO ON
23:56ARE ALL OPPORTUNITIES TO CHIP
23:57AWAY AT A CHALLENGE THAT'S
23:59COMPOUNDED OVER TIME.
24:02IMPLEMENTING THE OBJECTIVES AND
24:03ACTIONS OF THE STRATEGY WILL
24:05PROVIDE IMPROVED SYSTEMS AND
24:07TOOLS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE
24:09RISK AND VALUE TRADE OFFS OF
24:12PRIORITIZING ONE GAP OVER
24:13ANOTHER. AND SO I'M GOING TO
24:16PASS IT TO EMILY FOR THIS SLIDE.
24:18GREAT. WELL, COUNCIL, AS PART
24:20OF OUR ANNUAL ASSET STATUS AND
24:21CONDITION REPORTING, WE LIKE TO
24:23SHARE SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND
24:24ALSO RELEVANT TO THE WORK
24:26PRODUCTS BEFORE YOU. WE WANT TO
24:28SHARE SOME INITIATIVES GOING ON
24:29ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION. AND
24:30THESE ARE ALIGNED DIRECTLY WITH
24:33CITIES FINANCIAL CITY FINANCIAL
24:34POLICY 2.19 ON ASSET MANAGEMENT
24:39SOLUTIONS, EFFICIENCIES AND
24:40INNOVATIONS LIKE THESE WILL BE
24:42AMPLIFIED AND EXTENDED THROUGH
24:44IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STRATEGY
24:45THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IN A
24:46MOMENT. THIS LIST IS, OF COURSE,
24:48NOT EXHAUSTIVE, BUT MERELY
24:50REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GREAT
24:51WORK THAT ASSET MANAGERS ACROSS
24:53THE ORGANIZATION ARE DOING ALL
24:55THE TIME. SO CLOCKWISE FROM THE
24:57UPPER LEFT, I WANTED TO
24:59HIGHLIGHT THE WATER BUREAU'S
25:02EFFORTS TO PREDICT FUTURE WATER
25:04MAIN FAILURES BY DEVELOPING
25:06RENEWAL RATE RECOMMENDATIONS.
25:08MANAGING FUTURE SERVICE LEVELS.
25:11THE DATA IN THIS CHART IS BASED
25:13ON FAILURE RATES AND
25:14REPLACEMENT RATES OF PORTLAND
25:15PIPES. IN THE INNOVATION
25:19CATEGORY. BTS IS ROLLING OUT
25:21THIS FALL. AI PAPE PIPE DEFECT
25:25GRADING. AND SO THIS IS
25:27UTILIZING TECHNOLOGY TO
25:28IDENTIFY SOME DEFECTS THAT WE
25:30CAN ADDRESS BEFORE THEY BECOME
25:32LARGER FAILURES. THE FACILITIES
25:35TEAM IS CURRENTLY WORKING TO
25:37IMPLEMENT THE CAPITAL PLANNING
25:38MODULE IN FACILITY FORCE, AND
25:40SO THIS WILL HELP TO OPTIMIZE
25:44THEIR CAPITAL PORTFOLIO. ON THE
25:47BOTTOM RIGHT, YOU'RE FAMILIAR
25:48WITH SOME OF THE FINANCIAL
25:50TOOLS RECENTLY ROLLED OUT AND
25:52APPROVED THROUGH COUNCIL,
25:53THROUGH THE PASSAGE OF THE
25:55TRANSPORTATION UTILITY FEE AND
25:56THE STREET DAMAGE RESTORATION
25:58FEE. THIS INCLUDES FUNDING ALSO
26:01TO HELP WITH THE SIDEWALK
26:03IMPROVEMENTS AS PART OF THE
26:04SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT AND PAVING
26:06PROGRAM. THE CIP AND THEN
26:09FINALLY, I WANT TO CALL OUT THE
26:10THE WORK WITH BOTH PBOT AND
26:13PARKS AND REC, IN PARTNERSHIP
26:14WITH THE BUREAU OF
26:16TRANSPORTATION, IMPLEMENTING
26:17THE SAME UPDATED CLOUD VERSION
26:19OF MAXIMO, WHICH IS AN
26:20ENTERPRISE ASSET MANAGEMENT
26:21TOOL. AND THIS WILL IMPROVE THE
26:24INTEROPERABILITY AND PROVIDE
26:25LOWER LONG TERM SUPPORT COSTS
26:27OVER ALTERNATIVES. SO WE'RE
26:28MAKING PROGRESS ALL THE TIME,
26:30AND WE HOPE TO RAMP IT UP AS
26:32PART OF THE STRATEGY
26:33IMPLEMENTATION. BACK TO YOU
26:34DAVE. THANK YOU OFFICER TRISH.
26:39SO THIS SLIDE SERVES AS A
26:42REMINDER OF THE WORK DOZENS OF
26:44PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY ENGAGED
26:46IN TO DEVELOP THE CITYWIDE
26:48ASSET MANAGEMENT STRATEGY THAT
26:49WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY. I'M
26:53GOING TO READ OUT THE VISION TO
26:55GIVE YOU ALL TIME TO ABSORB IT.
26:57BUT I FIRST WANT TO NOTE THAT
26:58THIS IS REALLY FORWARD LOOKING.
27:00IT'S MORE LONG TERM, THE
27:02OBJECTIVES AND THE ACTIONS OF
27:04THE STRATEGY WE ENVISION WILL
27:06BE IMPLEMENTED SOONER. AND WE
27:08SEE THIS AS A LIVING DOCUMENT
27:10THAT WILL BE REVISITED AND
27:12UPDATED OVER TIME. SO GETTING
27:15BACK TO THE VISION, IT'S 2035.
27:19AND WHAT WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE
27:22PORTLAND AT THAT TIME WILL
27:24DELIVER RELIABLE, EQUITABLE
27:26SERVICES PROMOTED OR SUPPORTED
27:28BY MATURE INTEGRATED ASSET
27:30MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS WHERE
27:32DECISIONS ARE DATA INFORMED AND
27:35TRANSPARENT, REDUCE RISK AND
27:37DELIVER VALUE FOR COMMUNITY
27:39OVER AN ASSET'S LIFE CYCLE.
27:42PORTLANDERS WILL ENJOY
27:43DEPENDABLE SERVICES THAT MEET
27:45COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS AND
27:47SUPPORT POSITIVE SOCIAL,
27:49ECONOMIC, AND ENVIRONMENTAL
27:51OUTCOMES. SO THE FIRST
27:56PARAGRAPH OF THIS VISION IS
27:57RATHER INTERNALLY FOCUSED. AND
27:59THAT'S BECAUSE THE STRATEGY IS
28:02REALLY FOCUSED ON GETTING THE
28:04ORGANIZATION BETTER EQUIPPED TO
28:06MANAGE ASSETS MORE EFFECTIVELY
28:08ACROSS BUREAUS. HOWEVER, THE
28:11STRATEGY ALSO CONSIDERS HOW WE
28:12WOULD BETTER INTEGRATE EQUITY
28:14AND COMMUNITY IMPACTS AND LEVEL
28:16OF SERVICE PLANNING, ANALYSIS
28:18AND DECISION MAKING SO THAT
28:20SECOND SENTENCE CONNECTS ASSET
28:22MANAGEMENT PRACTICES TO
28:24RESPONSIBLY PROVIDING SERVICES
28:26TO THE COMMUNITY. SO HERE'S A
28:30COLLECTION OF THE STRATEGY SIX
28:33OBJECTIVES. WE WILL BE WALKING
28:34THROUGH A SLIDE FOR EACH ONE.
28:39SO OBJECTIVE ONE FOCUSES ON
28:41ESTABLISHING ASSET MANAGEMENT
28:42GOVERNANCE AND ORGANIZATIONAL
28:44CAPACITY WHICH IS CONSIDERED A
28:46CRITICAL IMMEDIATE ACTION TO
28:48SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR THE
28:50OTHER OBJECTIVES. WE WILL TALK
28:53ABOUT GOVERNANCE LATER IN THE
28:55PRESENTATION, BUT WE HAVE HAD A
28:56BIG WIN ALREADY WITH ACHIEVE
28:58ASSET MANAGEMENT OFFICER. THIS
29:02OBJECTIVE ALSO INCLUDES ACTIONS
29:03TO BUILD ORGANIZATIONAL
29:05CAPACITY, ASSET MANAGEMENT,
29:07CULTURE AND COMPETENCE THROUGH
29:09TRAINING AND DEFINING A CITY
29:11WIDE LEVEL OF SERVICE FRAMEWORK.
29:14SUPPORTING STRATEGY LANGUAGE
29:16ASSERTS THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE
29:17SHOULD BE CONNECTED TO
29:18COMMUNITY OUTCOMES, COST OF
29:20SERVICE AND BUDGET DECISIONS SO
29:22THAT THE CITY COMMITS TO
29:23DELIVER. WHAT THE CITY COMMITS
29:25TO DELIVERING IS MATCHED BY THE
29:27RESOURCES REQUIRED TO SUSTAIN
29:29IT. OBJECTIVE TWO IS ABOUT
29:34SUPPORTING DECISIONS THROUGH
29:35THE IDENTIFICATION OF COMMON
29:37ASSET DATA ELEMENTS,
29:40INTENTIONAL DATA GOVERNANCE,
29:41GOVERNANCE, DATA STANDARDS,
29:43SYSTEM DESIGN AND INTEGRATION,
29:47ALIGNING THESE TO STRATEGIC AND
29:49OPERATIONAL NEEDS, AS WELL AS
29:50RISK PRIORITIES. CRITICAL TO
29:53THIS WORK IS DEVELOPING AND
29:55MAINTAINING A CITYWIDE ASSET
29:56REGISTER TO HAVE A SINGLE
29:58SOURCE OF TRUTH FOR TRACKING,
30:00MANAGING AND ACCOUNTING FOR
30:02PHYSICAL ASSETS THROUGHOUT
30:03THEIR LIFE CYCLE. THE CHIEF
30:05ASSET MANAGEMENT OFFICER IS
30:07ENVISIONED TO LEAD THIS WORK,
30:08WITH ASSET OWNERS BEING
30:10RESPONSIBLE FOR ORGANIZING
30:12THEIR DATA INTO THE STANDARDS
30:14CREATED. THE SECOND ACTION OF
30:17DEFINING DATA STEWARDS WILL
30:20HELP WITH EFFECTIVE
30:22IMPLEMENTATION AND MAINTAINING
30:23THIS REGISTER OVER TIME.
30:27OBJECTIVE THREE FOCUSES ON
30:29IMPLEMENTING OBJECTIVE, CITY
30:30WIDE FRAMEWORKS FOR INVESTMENT
30:33PRIORITIZATION. THE FIRST
30:35ACTION TO DEVELOP A SIMPLE
30:36SHARED METHOD FOR EVALUATING
30:39RISK VALUES AND LONG TERM NEEDS
30:41THAT EVERY SERVICE AREA CAN USE,
30:44REGARDLESS OF STAFF EXPERTISE,
30:46HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A
30:47CRITICAL IMMEDIATE ACTION.
30:50ADDITIONAL ACTIONS INCLUDE
30:52CREATING GUIDANCE FOR ASSET
30:53ONBOARDING, DECOMMISSIONING,
30:55EVALUATING RENEWAL AND RETURN
30:57ON INVESTMENT. ESTABLISHING
30:58VALUE BASED DECISION CRITERIA
31:00AROUND LEVELS OF SERVICE
31:02FUNDING AND DECISION TRADE OFFS,
31:05AND DEVELOPING A CITY WIDE
31:06INVESTMENT PRIORITIZATION MODEL
31:09TO HELP PRIORITIZE CITY WIDE
31:11RESOURCES. EXCUSE ME. THE
31:14STRATEGY GOES INTO MORE DETAIL
31:16ABOUT ACTIONABLE NEXT STEPS TO
31:18ACHIEVE THESE OBJECTIVES.
31:20CRITICAL TO THIS ONE IS
31:22RECOGNIZING THE VARIOUS FACTORS
31:23THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED TO
31:25DEFINE TRADE OFFS AND AND
31:27ASSESS RISK SO INFORMED
31:29DECISIONS CAN BE MADE. DECISION
31:32MAKING CRITERIA IS A
31:33RECOMMENDED TOOL TO PROVIDE
31:35GUIDANCE FOR THESE CRITICAL
31:37CHOICES. OBJECTIVE FOUR STATES
31:40THAT DECISIONS SHOULD BE
31:41GROUNDED IN LIFE CYCLE REALITY,
31:43EQUITY AND COMMUNITY NEED. AS
31:46DISCUSSED IN OBJECTIVE ONE,
31:47IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONNECT
31:49SERVICE COMMITMENTS TO LIFE
31:50CYCLE COSTS AND MAINTENANCE
31:52FUNDING. ADOPTING A COMMON
31:55CITYWIDE EQUITY FRAMEWORK FOR
31:56ASSET AND SERVICE DECISIONS AT
31:58A CITY WIDE LEVEL IS ANOTHER
32:00ACTION. AND FINALLY,
32:02INTEGRATING THIS FRAMEWORK INTO
32:04THE PREVIOUS OBJECTIVES
32:06INVESTMENT PRIORITIZATION MODEL.
32:10OBJECTIVE FIVE CALLS FOR
32:12INCORPORATING SEISMIC AND
32:13CLIMATE MITIGATION AND
32:15ADAPTATION INTO DECISION MAKING.
32:17ACTIONS INCLUDE ADOPTING
32:19RESILIENCE SCREENING AND
32:21EVALUATION FRAMEWORK THAT
32:23ALLOWS BUREAUS TO ASSESS
32:25SEISMIC AND CLIMATE RISKS
32:27ACROSS INFRASTRUCTURE ASSETS.
32:28THIS WILL PROMOTE CONSISTENCY
32:30AND INFORMED DECISION CRITERIA,
32:33ESTABLISHING A SCALABLE
32:35CITYWIDE METHOD FOR APPLYING
32:36SEISMIC AND CLIMATE CHANGE
32:38INFORMATION TO PRIORITIZATION
32:40IS ALSO INCLUDED AND SHOULD BE
32:42INCORPORATED INTO THE PREVIOUS
32:44OBJECTIVE. WITH VARIOUS
32:47INITIATIVES LIKE THE CLIMATE
32:48CHANGE RISK ASSESSMENT AND
32:49ACTION PLAN HAPPENING RIGHT NOW,
32:51WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
32:54INTEGRATE A RESILIENCE LENS
32:55INTO ALL CITY ASSESSMENTS AND
32:58PLANS. OKAY, THE FINAL
33:01OBJECTIVE, WE'RE ALMOST THERE
33:03IS FOCUSED ON EARNING PUBLIC
33:05TRUST THROUGH MEANINGFUL
33:06ENGAGEMENT, PERFORMANCE
33:08MANAGEMENT AND REPORTING. A KEY
33:10ACTION TO HELP GUIDE THIS IS
33:12THE ESTABLISHMENT OF CITY WIDE
33:14COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
33:16EXPECTATIONS, WHICH INCLUDE
33:18DEFINING MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR
33:20ENGAGEMENT ON ASSET AND SERVICE
33:22DECISIONS, APPLYING BEST
33:24PRACTICES TO PROMOTE INCLUSIVE,
33:26REPRESENTATIVE AND TRANSPARENT
33:27ENGAGEMENT. UTILIZING TOOLS
33:29LIKE EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION
33:31AND LANGUAGE ACCESS TO DEFINE
33:33LEVELS OF SERVICE, AND CLOSING
33:36THE FEEDBACK LOOP THROUGH
33:37CONTINUOUS ENGAGEMENT THAT
33:39EXPLAINS TRADE OFFS. THE OTHER
33:41ACTIONS TO ACHIEVE THIS
33:43OBJECTIVE, FOCUS ON DEVELOPING
33:45SYSTEMS TO TRACK PERFORMANCE
33:47AND BE TRANSPARENT WITH THE
33:48COMMUNITY ABOUT SERVICE
33:50OUTCOMES. SO WE WILL START TO
33:55CLOSE BY LOOKING BACK TO THE
33:56FIRST OBJECTIVE ON ASSET
33:58MANAGEMENT GOVERNANCE. THIS
34:00CHART SHOWS A RECOMMENDATION
34:02FOR WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE
34:03MOVING FORWARD. TO SUCCESSFULLY
34:05IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGY. THE
34:07CHIEF ASSET MANAGEMENT OFFICER
34:10WILL HOLD AUTHORITY AND
34:12ACCOUNTABILITY FOR DEVELOPING
34:13AND IMPLEMENTING CITYWIDE ASSET
34:15MANAGEMENT STANDARDS, PROCESSES
34:18AND SYSTEM DECISIONS. THE
34:23EXECUTIVE STEERING COMMITTEE
34:24THAT WAS MADE UP OF DCAS FOR
34:26STRATEGY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH
34:28SHIFT TO BEING MADE UP OF
34:29DIRECTORS OF ASSET OWNING AND
34:31ENABLING BUREAUS TO HAVE
34:33CRITICAL SEATS TO ADVISE ON AND
34:35MAKE KEY DECISIONS FOR HOW TO
34:37IMPLEMENT THE OBJECTIVES AND
34:39ACTIONS OF THE STRATEGY.
34:41EVERYONE HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN
34:44INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT FOR
34:46THE CITY, AND WE LOOK FORWARD
34:48TO WORKING TOGETHER TO DELIVER
34:49ON THIS WORK. AND I'M GOING TO
34:51PASS IT TO OFFICER TRISH TO
34:53CLOSE. GREAT. SO LOOKING
34:56FORWARD.
34:56>> SOME NEXT STEPS FOR YOU.
34:58VICE PRESIDENT CLARK ALREADY
35:00INDICATED THAT THERE'S A
35:01FINANCIAL STRATEGY THAT WILL BE
35:03COMING BEFORE YOU. TARGETING
35:04WINTER OF 2026 WITH CFO BIERY.
35:09I PLAN TO COME BEFORE THE
35:10LARGER COUNCIL IN THE SPRING TO
35:12OFFER SOME REFINEMENTS AND SOME
35:14DETAILS OF IMPLEMENTATION
35:15ACTIVITIES RELATED TO THIS
35:17STRATEGY, AND PART OF THAT WILL
35:21BE WORKING ON RISK FRAMEWORK
35:23SERVICE LEVEL TARGETS AND
35:24EVALUATING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE
35:26PERFORMANCE. AND SO THOSE WERE
35:27SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES YOU
35:28HEARD ABOUT A MOMENT AGO,
35:30LOOKING AT OUR DECISION
35:31FRAMEWORK AND WHERE OUR
35:32GREATEST AREAS OF RISK ARE. AND
35:34SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO
35:35CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION
35:36WITH YOU AND ANSWERING ANY
35:38QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TODAY. THANK
35:39YOU VERY MUCH.
35:40>> GREAT. THANK YOU BOTH FOR
35:42THE PRESENTATION. I KNOW WE
35:43HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. WE'VE GOT
35:44ABOUT 1015 MINUTES AVAILABLE
35:46FOR DISCUSSION HERE. AND, YOU
35:48KNOW, I'M VERY ANXIOUS TO GET
35:50WHAT I CALL THE LIST RIGHT. I
35:52WANT THE LIST. I WANT TO KNOW
35:54WHAT'S AT GREATEST RISK BY EACH
35:57BUREAU. BUT THIS HAS GOT SOME
35:58GREAT INFORMATION IN IT. I
36:00REALLY APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILOR
36:01SMITH, YOU WANT TO KICK OFF THE
36:03DISCUSSION?
36:04>> YES. THANK YOU. WELCOME,
36:06TRISH. I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOU
36:09GOT A BIG JOB AHEAD OF YOU. A
36:12COUPLE OF THINGS. I'M LIKE THE
36:15THE CHAIR I WAS FULLY EXPECTING
36:19WITH THE TIME THAT IT TOOK TO
36:20GET TO THIS VISION, I WAS FULLY
36:22EXPECTING TO SEE A RED HISTORY.
36:25I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE A
36:27SPREADSHEET THAT EQUALED THE 82
36:30BILLION THAT HAD A HEADLINE OF
36:33EACH BUREAU AND HOW MUCH THEY
36:35HAD AND WHAT IT WAS
36:37SPECIFICALLY. AND I GUESS IT IS.
36:41IT IS THE STYLE OF THE CITY,
36:43BECAUSE THE BUDGET OFFICE, WHEN
36:45THEY TALK TO US ABOUT THINGS,
36:46THEY TALK IN PERCENTAGES. AND I
36:49DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT 82% IS.
36:50I WANT TO KNOW WHAT 82% IS AND
36:53WHAT THE DOLLAR VALUE IS. IF
36:56YOU CAN SAY ONLY 20% OF YOUR
36:58ASSETS ARE ARE WORKABLE, I WANT
37:01TO KNOW WHAT 20% IS IN
37:04CONDITION, IN GREAT CONDITION
37:05AND OPERATIONAL. SO FOR ME,
37:07THIS IS THIS WAS KIND OF
37:09UNDERWHELMING TO ME BECAUSE I
37:11WAS, I HAD A BIG EXPECTATION OF
37:14HAVING A, A LIST, A REGISTRY
37:17WITH, WITH, AND I'M NOT SO
37:20WEDDED TO SPREADSHEETS, BUT I
37:23EXPECTED TO SEE SOMETHING THAT
37:25WOULD LOOK LIKE AN $82 BILLION
37:29BOOK THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO
37:32INCLUDE THE STATUS OF EACH OF
37:35EACH OF THE ASSETS, AND HOW
37:38MUCH WOULD IT TAKE TO GET
37:42OPERATIONAL IN THE, IN THE IN
37:43THE GOOD, TO THE GOOD OR BETTER
37:46THAN GOOD. AND SO FOR ME, I
37:48STILL DON'T KNOW ANY MORE THAN
37:50I KNOW NOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT
37:51YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING AN
37:53ASSET. YOU HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED
37:55IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT STREET
37:57OUR ASSET IS ON. I WANTED TO
37:59SEE THIS ASSET THREE AND PBOT.
38:02WE HAVE TEN TRUCKS, FIVE THAT
38:06ARE OPERATIONAL, AND THEN
38:08THEY'RE GOING TO GO AWAY. AND I
38:10JUST HAD A DIFFERENT
38:12EXPECTATION SINCE THIS. AND I
38:13KNOW YOU JUST GOT HERE TRISH.
38:15BUT. I SEE DCA WILLIAMS HAS
38:20COME TO THE TABLE. BUT I THIS
38:25IS JUST A LONG LIST OF VISIONS
38:27THAT I HAVE ABOUT A WHOLE LOT
38:29OF STUFF. I WAS EXPECTING MORE.
38:31THANK YOU.
38:32>> IF I MAY. GOOD MORNING.
38:34MILLICENT WILLIAMS, INTERIM
38:35DEPUTY CITY ADMINISTRATOR FOR
38:36PUBLIC WORKS. THANK YOU VERY
38:37MUCH FOR YOUR QUESTION,
38:38COUNSELOR SMITH. WE ANTICIPATED
38:41THAT THIS COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE
38:43CONCERNS ALONG THE LINES THAT
38:45YOU'VE MENTIONED. AND EMILY
38:48TRICHE, HER FIRST NAME IS EMILY.
38:51SO SHE AND I HAVE TALKED
38:54EXTENSIVELY, AS WELL AS HAD
38:56CONVERSATIONS WITH TATE ABOUT
38:58THE EXPECTATIONS FOR TODAY. WE
39:01CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WHEN EMILY
39:03COMES BEFORE THIS BODY IN
39:04JANUARY, YOU WILL HAVE A
39:07COLLECTION OF DATA. IT WILL
39:10COME IN MANY FORMS. SOME OF IT
39:12WILL BE LISTS, SOME OF IT WILL
39:14BE MAPS, SOME OF IT WILL BE
39:16DASHBOARDS AND INFORMATION THAT
39:18SHE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR
39:21THIS BODY SO THAT THERE'S A
39:22LEVEL OF COMFORT ABOUT NOT JUST
39:24THE LIST OF ASSETS, THE GENERAL
39:27CONDITION OF THE ASSETS, BUT
39:29WHERE THOSE ASSETS ARE THAT
39:31WILL HELP TO INFORM WHAT THE
39:33CITY ADMINISTRATOR WAS
39:35DISCUSSING REGARDING HOW WE
39:36WILL GET TO THE REQUEST OF A
39:39POTENTIAL BOND IN THE FUTURE.
39:41WE CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS WE HAVE
39:44INTEGRITY IN THE INFORMATION
39:45AND DATA THAT WE HAVE. AND SO
39:46THE COMMITMENT FROM THE
39:49ADMINISTRATION IS TO ENSURE
39:50THAT WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
39:52AND FRANKLY, A LOT OF THAT
39:53ALREADY EXISTS. IT'S JUST IN
39:56VARIOUS AND SUNDRY FORMS THAT
39:58MAKE IT A LITTLE CHALLENGING TO
40:01BRING TOGETHER. SO, YOU KNOW,
40:05WE HAVE OVER A THOUSAND CAPITAL
40:08PROJECTS THAT WE COULD PROVIDE,
40:10BUT THAT DOESN'T TELL YOU THAT
40:12DOESN'T PROVIDE THE NARRATIVE
40:14THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO KNOW. I
40:15CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, PBOT
40:17HAS 225 CAPITAL PROJECTS. I CAN
40:19TELL YOU WHERE THEY ARE. THAT
40:20DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE GENERAL
40:21CONDITION OF THOSE ASSETS. AND
40:23SO THAT'S THE WORK THAT WE
40:24ANTICIPATE WILL BEGIN IN
40:26EARNEST. THE ASSET MANAGERS
40:28FROM ACROSS THE CITY HAVE BEEN
40:29WORKING VERY HARD. BUT AGAIN,
40:31WITHOUT HAVING THAT CENTRAL
40:32POINT OF COORDINATION THAT IS
40:34TASKED WITH AND CHARGED WITH
40:37ENSURING THAT THERE IS THAT
40:38STRATEGY, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE
40:41TO SHOW UP IN WAYS THAT I THINK
40:43NOT JUST YOU COUNCILORS ARE
40:45EXPECTING, BUT ALSO THAT THE
40:46PUBLIC WOULD EXPECT. AND SO I
40:48KNOW THAT THE NEXT SEVERAL
40:49MONTHS WILL BE SPENT WORKING ON
40:51THAT.
40:51>> AND I THINK IT WOULD BE
40:53HELPFUL BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IN
40:55CUT EXERCISES TO SEE IT. DO WE
40:58HAVE MULTIPLE VANS? I KNOW
41:01EVERY MONTH OR HOWEVER THEY
41:03TAKE IT OUT, I MONEY IS TAKEN
41:05OUT OF MY ACCOUNT FOR
41:08FACILITIES FOR CARS I HAVE NOT.
41:10I HAVE YET TO USE ONE. I DON'T
41:12KNOW WHAT KIND OF CARS YOU ALL
41:14HAVE, I. SOMETIMES I SEE THOSE.
41:16I USED TO SEE THOSE CARS IN THE
41:18CITY THAT WORKS OR SOMETHING
41:19LIKE THAT. I HAVE NO IDEA. I DO
41:23KNOW I'VE BEEN IN ONE OF PBOT
41:26TRUCKS, BUT I'M TRYING TO
41:28FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN ALSO AS AS
41:30YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, CREATE
41:32AN EQUITY LENS SO THAT OUR
41:37ASSETS WHERE THEY ARE SO THAT
41:39WE KNOW AND I EXPECT TO SEE
41:41SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE
41:42HAVE 25 PARKS IN DISTRICT ONE.
41:46AND HERE, HERE ARE THE THINGS
41:48THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED IN
41:50THESE PARKS. AND THOSE ARE THE
41:51KIND OF THINGS THAT I NEED TO
41:53SEE. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO DO
41:54PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS
41:55LIKE THEY DID OVER AT SELWOOD
41:57HOUSE, YOU KNOW WHAT LOOKS TO
41:59BE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A
42:01PUBLIC PRIVATE. I DON'T WANT TO
42:02PRIVATIZE THE CITY, BUT I JUST
42:04WANT TO SEE IF THERE ARE WAYS
42:06IN WHICH IF THERE ARE ASSETS
42:07THAT WE NEED TO THAT ARE NOT
42:10BEING USED. THAT MAYBE WE
42:15SHOULD CONSIDER EITHER SELLING
42:18THEM, PUTTING THEM SO THAT WE
42:20CAN UPGRADE OTHER ASSETS THAT
42:23WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP IN PLAY,
42:25THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THAT'S,
42:26THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT.
42:28BUT AT ANY RATE, I WILL ALSO BE
42:31TALKING TO YOU AND SETTING UP A
42:32TIME TO TALK TO YOU. INTERIM DC
42:35WILLIAMS, IN REGARDS TO HOW WE
42:40THERE'S WE HAVE A PLACE SETTER
42:42BILL IN THE IN THE LEGISLATURE
42:44THAT WOULD IDENTIFY THAT WOULD
42:46ALLOW CITIES WHO HAVE SURPLUS
42:50PROPERTIES TO REZONE THEM FOR
42:53OTHER THINGS, PARTICULARLY
42:57HOUSING. AND I THINK THAT WE
43:00CAN'T CREATE ANY MORE LAND, BUT
43:02WE HAVE TO REPURPOSE THE LAND
43:04THAT WE DO HAVE. IT'S NOT BEING
43:06USED IF IT NEEDS IF IT'S A
43:07BROWNFIELD. AND THAT'S THE
43:08OTHER THING. I WANT TO KNOW,
43:10HOW MANY OF THESE ASSETS ARE
43:12BROWNFIELDS AND BY AND BY
43:14DISTRICT AND THOSE KINDS OF
43:16THINGS. SO THAT THAT IS WHERE
43:18MY HEAD IS AT. I APPRECIATE YOU
43:21ALL COMING UP WITH THE VISION,
43:22AND THAT GIVES YOU THE STARTING
43:24POINT SO THAT YOU CAN EVALUATE.
43:26BUT THE REGISTRY IS SPREADSHEET.
43:29I GUESS I AM JUST A SPREADSHEET
43:30GIRL.
43:31>> COUNCILOR SMITH I APPRECIATE
43:33YOUR, YOUR CHANNELING MY, MY
43:36FRUSTRATION AS WELL. SO I
43:37APPRECIATE THAT. AND I THINK
43:39IT'S GOOD THAT WE GIVE FOLKS
43:40FEEDBACK, BUT WE ONLY HAVE
43:41ABOUT TEN MORE MINUTES LEFT ON
43:43THIS. SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU,
43:45I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO
43:46COUNCILOR GREEN.
43:47>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CLARK.
43:49THANK YOU. WELCOME, EMILY.
43:52WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE YOU ON
43:53BOARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
43:55ONGOING SERVICE. THIS PROJECT.
43:57I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO
43:58THE VERY LAST SLIDE YOU
44:00MENTIONED OF RISK FRAMEWORK
44:01THAT'S FORTHCOMING. I'D LIKE TO
44:04HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
44:06THAT. AND SPECIFICALLY, ARE YOU
44:07GOING TO BE ENGAGING IN THE ISO
44:0931,000 STANDARD TO, TO, TO
44:10GUIDE THAT?
44:12>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT
44:13QUESTION. AND YOU'RE SPEAKING
44:15MY LANGUAGE. RIGHT. SO THE
44:16INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS
44:16ORGANIZATION HAS SEVERAL
44:17STANDARDS RELEVANT TO
44:19INFRASTRUCTURE ASSET MANAGEMENT.
44:20AND YES, WE WILL BE WORKING OFF
44:23OF THE STANDARDS OF ISO WILL
44:25ALSO BE LOOKING AT GASB 33 FOR
44:28THOSE KEEPING SCORE AT HOME AND
44:30ALSO LOOKING AT THE THE
44:33COMMITMENTS, THE POLICY AND
44:34STANDARDS WE HAVE HERE WITHIN
44:36THE CITY OF PORTLAND. MY
44:38INTENTION IS TO ENGAGE
44:39STAKEHOLDERS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE
44:41OF THE CITY, BECAUSE THE WAY
44:43PEOPLE ARE INTERACTING WITH OUR
44:45INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW THAT
44:46HELPS THEM CREATE THAT THE
44:48SAFETY, THE NEW BUSINESS, THE
44:50AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
44:51DEVELOPMENT IS SO CRITICAL TO
44:53WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS
44:55WANTING TO BECOME. SO YOU'LL BE
44:58HEARING ABOUT THAT. THAT WILL
44:59TIE IN NICELY TO THE
45:01PRIORITIZATION FRAMEWORK OR THE
45:02INVESTMENT FRAMEWORK, AND AS
45:05WELL AS THE EQUITY, RESILIENCE
45:08AND THE OTHER GOALS WE HAVE OF
45:10THE ORGANIZATION THAT YOU WILL
45:11HELP DETERMINE AND DICTATE HOW
45:15WE POUR THE PROJECTS INTO THE
45:16MACHINE AND WHAT COMES OUT THE
45:17OTHER SIDE.
45:18>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
45:19AND YOU KNOW, FOR FOLKS
45:22WATCHING ALONG, I'M SO OBSESSED
45:23WITH THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO
45:26ALL OF THE PROJECTS EVEN IF
45:28WE'RE TO GO OUT AND FLOAT A
45:30BOND. IT'S THE SCALE OF IT IS
45:32SO LARGE THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE
45:34OUT WHICH ONES TO DO FIRST. AND
45:35THE WAY YOU DO THAT IS APPLYING
45:37SORT OF A RISK LENS TO BE LIKE,
45:39WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF
45:41FAILURE? SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE,
45:42WILL THIS IS THIS OLD, IS IT?
45:44DOES IT NEED HELP? BUT IT'S
45:45LIKE, IF THIS FAILS, DOES THIS
45:47THEN CREATE CASCADING
45:48CONDITIONS? SO SOUNDS LIKE
45:49THAT'S EXACTLY THE, THE LENS
45:50AND FRAME THAT YOU'RE TAKING.
45:51I'LL, I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO
45:53SEEING THAT IN JANUARY. AND
45:54THANKS FOR. THANKS FOR THE WORK
45:58ON IT. THANKS.
45:58>> THANK YOU.
45:59>> I THINK WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL
46:01ITCHING TO GET THERE. COUNCILOR
46:02KANAL.
46:03>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CLARK.
46:04THANKS AND WELCOME TO THE CITY.
46:06EMILY. THANKS AS WELL FOR FOR
46:09BEING HERE. DCA WILLIAMS AND
46:10TATE. I THINK IF THERE'S SOME
46:12BEHIND THE SCENES THING THAT
46:13HAS NOT BEEN WORKED ON FOR A
46:15LONG TIME AT THE LEVEL THAT IT
46:16NEEDS TO BE, AND NOW SOMEONE'S
46:18WORKING ON IT, NINE TIMES OUT
46:20OF TEN, I SEE YOUR NAME
46:21ATTACHED TO IT, TATE, AND I
46:22REALLY APPRECIATE THAT ABOUT
46:23ABOUT YOUR TIME HERE. I HAVE A
46:25COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT TWO
46:26SLIDES. CAN WE GO TO THE SLIDE
46:28WITH ALL THE BAR CHARTS? AND
46:30FIRST, JUST VERIFYING THAT THE
46:32PPE IN THE IN THE HEADER THERE
46:35IS PROSPER PORTLAND. OKAY.
46:37>> YES.
46:38>> SO AT SOME POINT WE SHOULD
46:39HAVE THAT THAT ONE. YEAH. SO I
46:42HAD A QUESTION HERE. SO FOR HAS
46:45GOT ITS OWN COLUMN FLEET AND
46:48FACILITIES MANAGES PPB
46:49PRECINCTS. RIGHT. SO THEY'D BE
46:51INCLUDED IN THAT. I KNOW NORTH
46:52PRECINCT IS IN DIRE NEED OF
46:53SOME WORK CORRECT?
46:54>> CORRECT.
46:55>> OKAY. SO I GUESS THIS THIS
46:57HIGHLIGHTS A QUESTION. IS THERE
46:59A LONG TERM PLAN OF SPLITTING
47:01UP THIS SORT OF DATA BY THE
47:03TYPE OF ASSET INSTEAD OF BUREAU
47:05OWNERSHIP, AS WE SIMULTANEOUSLY
47:06MOVE TO HAVING EVERYTHING OWNED
47:07BY A CITY INSTEAD OF 27 BUREAUS
47:10IN A TRENCH COAT?
47:11>> YES. SO VERY MUCH SO. BY
47:15STRATEGIC PRIORITY AND BY SOME
47:19OF THE THEMATIC AREAS THAT
47:21WE'RE SEEING. I'M ALREADY
47:22STARTING TO GET A SENSE FROM
47:24FOLKS ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT
47:25LOOK LIKE, AND THAT COULD
47:26INFORM A FUTURE BOND.
47:27>> GREAT. THAT MAKES SENSE. AND
47:29I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT FIRE
47:31UNIQUELY AND SEPARATELY AT SOME
47:33POINT. THAT PROBABLY CANNOT BE
47:34NOW, BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO THE
47:36BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT
47:38WHERE ARE OUR OUR ASSETS ARE
47:42LOCATED. OBVIOUSLY, WE TALK
47:43ABOUT EAST PORTLAND, AND THAT'S
47:44A HUGE PART OF IT. BUT ALSO CSI
47:47HUB AND SOME OTHER LOCATIONS
47:49THERE. AND WEST OF THE RAILROAD
47:50CUT IN NORTH PORTLAND AS WELL.
47:52SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE PIECE. I
47:54ALSO WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE
47:56SLIDES ABOUT OBJECTIVE SIX AND
47:58ENGAGEMENT. AND I JUST WANTED
47:59TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE
48:01YOU'RE BREAKING THIS APART
48:02BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A LITTLE
48:03DIFFERENT IF WE'RE TALKING
48:04ABOUT ENGAGING WITH PEOPLE
48:06ABOUT UPKEEP VERSUS ACTUAL
48:08CHANGE. SO IF YOU KNOW, IT'S A
48:10SHORT TERM INCONVENIENCE, IF
48:11YOUR ROADS BEING REPAVED, RIGHT,
48:13BUT IT WILL GO BACK TO NORMAL
48:14AFTER THAT. I THINK THAT'S
48:16DIFFERENT. AND THE ENGAGEMENT
48:18STANDARD IS PROBABLY DIFFERENT
48:19AS WELL THAN IF YOU'RE TAKING A
48:21TWO LANE ROAD AND MAKING IT ONE
48:23LANE IN EITHER DIRECTION AS
48:24PART OF THIS. AND THAT CAN BE
48:26SOMETHING YOU DO AT THE SAME
48:27TIME. SO I JUST, I WANTED TO
48:29JUST GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF
48:30SORT OF HOW ARE YOU, YOU
48:32WORKING THROUGH THAT AND HOW
48:34ARE YOU ESTABLISHING THE
48:36STANDARDS ON THAT? BECAUSE I
48:37THINK PBOT HAS BEEN CRITICIZED
48:40OVER TIME, IN PARTICULAR ON, ON
48:42ENGAGEMENT FOR BEING DEEP BUT
48:45NARROW. SO LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO,
48:47WHO LIVE ON THE ROAD, BUT NOT
48:49THE PEOPLE WHO DRIVE ON THE
48:50ROAD EVERY DAY. AND I THINK
48:54THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A UNIQUE
48:55PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER
48:57BUREAUS THAT AREN'T EVEN
48:57GETTING THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF
48:59THE DEPTH, THEIR ENGAGEMENT.
49:00>> JUST DO YOU MIND IF I
49:02INTERVENE AT THIS POINT? THOSE
49:03ARE GREAT QUESTIONS. I REALLY
49:04APPRECIATE THEM. I CAN WE TAKE
49:06THOSE OFFLINE AS WELL, SINCE
49:07WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, AND
49:09I DON'T KNOW THAT EMILY IS
49:10GOING TO HAVE DEEP ANSWERS TO
49:12THAT AT THIS POINT ON
49:13ENGAGEMENT, BUT YOU RAISED SOME
49:15REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES. UNLESS
49:16THERE'S A QUICK RESPONSE, I
49:18THINK IT'S PRETTY COMPLICATED.
49:20>> I CAN FOLLOW UP REALLY
49:22BRIEFLY. THANK YOU. I DID WANT
49:23TO HIGHLIGHT THERE'S A LONG
49:25RANGE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES
49:26MASTER PLAN THAT I THINK YOU'D
49:28ALL BE INTERESTED IN THAT I'LL
49:29SHARE WITH YOU. AND EMILY IS
49:31GOING TO INTEGRATE ALL THESE
49:33WONDERFUL PIECES TOGETHER. AND
49:35I THINK WE DO HAVE A CITY WIDE
49:38ENGAGEMENT OFFICER THAT WILL
49:39NEED TO BE REPLACED OR THAT
49:41WORK WILL GO FORWARD. AND I
49:43THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF
49:44DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IN. AND
49:45THE STRATEGY TALKS ABOUT THE
49:47IMPORTANCE OF HAVING SORT OF
49:49THOSE CITY WIDE STANDARDS, AND
49:51WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO
49:53ENGAGEMENT MORE AS A AS ONE
49:54CITY, AND I THINK WE COULD GO
49:56IN THAT DIRECTION.
49:57>> YEAH, I'M FINE TAKING THIS
49:58OFF OF TODAY'S AGENDA. I JUST
50:01MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE GOING
50:02TO END UP WITH A CHIEF
50:04ENGAGEMENT OFFICER WHO TRIES TO
50:05DO IT OUT OF THE ADMINISTRATION
50:07AGAIN. AND SO I'M HOPING THAT
50:09AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS, THAT
50:11WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ONE CITY
50:12THAT INCLUDES THIS SIDE OF THE
50:14DAIS, TOO. AND SO I THINK WE DO
50:16NEED TO DISCUSS IT BECAUSE AS
50:17LONG AS THIS POSITION IS HOUSED
50:19UNDER THE THE ADMINISTRATOR,
50:20WHICH I'VE, YOU KNOW, RAISED
50:21ISSUES WITH. BUT AS LONG AS
50:23IT'S THERE, WE HAVE TO MAKE
50:24SURE WE'RE GIVING CLEAR
50:25GUIDANCE ON IT OR WE'RE GOING
50:27TO KEEP REPLICATING DECADES OF,
50:28OF, OF BAD ENGAGEMENT AT THE
50:29CITY.
50:30>> WELL, I THINK, EMILY, WE'LL
50:31PUT A PIN IN THAT AND WE'LL
50:33COME BACK TO THAT. COUNCILOR.
50:35KOYAMA LANE.
50:36>> THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU. THANK
50:37YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, BUT
50:39THANK YOU EVEN MORE FOR THE
50:40REPORTS. I THINK THAT'S WHERE I
50:41FOUND THE MOST HELPFUL
50:43INFORMATION AND KIND OF MY
50:46COLLEAGUES STARTED THE
50:46CONVERSATION AROUND EQUITY. AND
50:48I WANT TO POINT US TO PAGE 17
50:51OF THE STRATEGY DOCUMENT, WHICH
50:54TALKS ABOUT THE ADOPTING A
50:56CITYWIDE EQUITY FRAMEWORK. AND
50:58I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I
50:59THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY
51:00IMPORTANT. I ALSO APPRECIATE
51:02THAT THERE WAS LANGUAGE AROUND
51:04TARGETED UNIVERSALISM, AND IT
51:07WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE IF
51:08ANYONE COULD SPEAK TO WHERE
51:10WE'RE AT IN DEVELOPING OR
51:11ADOPTING A FRAMEWORK LIKE THIS.
51:15>> THANK YOU. I'M I'M GLAD
51:17YOU'RE FOCUSING IN ON THAT AND
51:19REVIEWING THE REPORT. WE HAD A
51:20LOT OF GREAT EQUITY
51:22PRACTITIONERS TAKE PART IN THIS
51:23WORK, AND OFFICER TILLMAN, OUR
51:28EQUITY OFFICER, HAS BEEN REALLY
51:30INVOLVED. AND I WOULD HAVE TO
51:32DEFER TO HER PROBABLY ON HOW
51:34WE'RE APPROACHING THAT. BUT I
51:36REALLY APPRECIATED. NOT
51:37EVERYONE LOVES ASSET MANAGEMENT
51:40IS IS REALLY KEEN TO REVIEW OUR
51:43WORK ON IT. AND SHE REALLY WAS
51:44AND SHE REALLY DUG INTO IT. SO
51:46I THINK THAT OFFICER TRISH AND
51:48OFFICER TILLMAN WILL CONTINUE
51:49TO WORK TOGETHER ON THAT.
51:51>> WHAT AN AMAZING ANSWER. I
51:52LOVE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE
51:54DOING THAT TOGETHER, AND I JUST
51:56CAN'T HELP BUT UNDERSCORE PART
51:57OF THAT CONVERSATION. JUST WANT
51:59TO, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR
52:00ASSETS BEING ACCESSIBLE, JUST
52:01WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MAKING
52:02SURE WE'RE ALSO FOCUSING ON AGE
52:04FRIENDLY AND THINKING ABOUT HOW
52:05WE'RE MEETING PORTLANDERS NEEDS
52:07AT CRITICAL AGES AND STAGES.
52:09AND THEN ON PAGE EIGHT OF THAT
52:12REPORT TALKS ABOUT THE
52:14GOVERNANCE CHARTER, WHICH I'M
52:16REALLY EXCITED TO JUST I'M A
52:17BIG FAN OF CROSS BUREAU
52:19COORDINATION AND JUST I'M
52:20WONDERING IF THERE ARE ANY
52:22DETAILS THAT CAN BE SHARED
52:23ABOUT HOW THAT GOVERNANCE
52:24CHARTER WOULD BE USED TO HELP
52:27WITH THAT COORDINATION ACROSS
52:29BUREAUS, LIKE FOR ASSETS, LIKE
52:30WHEN WE'RE REPLACING CURB CUTS
52:32OR OTHER PROJECTS WHERE
52:33DIFFERENT BUREAUS, SERVICE
52:34AREAS ARE GOING TO BE CROSSING
52:37COORDINATING.
52:38>> YES, DEFINITELY. I THINK
52:40WE'RE ALREADY SEEING THIS IN
52:42THE UNIFIED PUBLIC WORKS
52:44CAPITAL PROGRAM WORK THAT
52:46THEY'RE DOING. I KNOW CARRIE
52:47RUBIN'S WITH US TODAY, AND
52:49THEY'RE ALREADY LIKE, THE
52:51GOVERNANCE WORK WILL REALLY
52:52HELP EVERYONE COME TOGETHER AND
52:53SORT OF IDENTIFY JOINT PROJECTS
52:56AND OPPORTUNITIES TO REALLY
52:58COMBINE FORCES AND FIND
53:01EFFICIENCIES AND SAVINGS AND
53:02PARTNERING TOGETHER. AND I
53:03THINK THAT WILL SPILL OVER TO
53:05THE ENGAGEMENT ASPECT AS WELL.
53:06SO WE'RE AGAIN, ENGAGING MORE
53:08AS ONE CITY AND NOT DOING ALL
53:10THESE PROJECTS IN SEPARATE
53:12SILOS. AND THEN AS WE GET DOWN
53:14TO IMPLEMENTING THINGS LIKE
53:16CITY WIDE PRIORITIZATION AND
53:18THINKING ABOUT HAVING MORE OF A
53:20CITY WIDE CAPITAL PLAN, I THINK
53:21THAT GOVERNANCE WILL BE REALLY
53:24IMPORTANT TO WORK THROUGH THAT
53:26AND MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHICH
53:28PROJECTS TO PRIORITIZE.
53:29>> THANK YOU. SO GLAD YOU'RE
53:31HERE. EXCITED TO SEE NEXT STEPS.
53:33>> VERY MUCH.
53:34>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR
53:35COUNCILOR. WE'RE REALLY OUT OF
53:37TIME. I'M GOING TO FOREGO
53:38ASKING ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
53:39POINT, BUT I'M GOING TO
53:40ENCOURAGE EMILY TO REACH OUT TO
53:42EACH MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE
53:44TO SCHEDULE SOME TIME, BECAUSE
53:46WE HAVEN'T HAD REALLY ADEQUATE
53:47TIME TODAY TO DISCUSS THIS. BUT
53:48I THINK IF YOU SIT DOWN WITH
53:50EACH OF US, IT'LL BE A MUCH
53:52MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION. BUT
53:53WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. WE'RE
53:54GLAD YOU'RE HERE. THANK YOU,
53:55TATE, FOR EVERYTHING THAT
53:56YOU'VE DONE UP TO THIS POINT.
53:58THANK YOU. AND WE WILL SEE YOU
54:01AGAIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
54:02TODAY AND THE INTEREST OF TIME.
54:05LET'S MOVE RIGHT AHEAD. DIANA,
54:06CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE NEXT
54:08ITEM?
54:09>> ITEM NUMBER TWO, DOCUMENT
54:10NUMBER 2026-357. LOCAL
54:16REGULATION OF AUTOMATED
54:18VEHICLES.
54:19>> THANK YOU. DIANA. COLLEAGUES,
54:20WE'RE RETURNING TO OUR
54:22DISCUSSION ON REGULATING THE
54:23COMMERCIAL OPERATION OF
54:25FOR-HIRE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES ON
54:27PORTLAND STREETS. I DON'T THINK
54:29THAT AS A CITY, WE'RE REALLY
54:31READY FOR THESE VEHICLES, AND
54:34I'M AFRAID THEY'RE COMING. I
54:36BELIEVE WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF
54:38THIS AND HAVE A FRAMEWORK READY
54:40TO REGULATE THIS INDUSTRY. NOT
54:42TO MENTION, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
54:43WE SEND A SIGNAL TO THE STATE
54:46LEGISLATURE THAT WE ARE
54:47INVESTED IN ENSURING THE SAFE
54:49OPERATIONS OF THESE VEHICLES IN
54:51OUR CITY. AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE
54:54COMPANIES HAVE THUS FAR MANAGED
54:55TO AVOID ANY CITY REGULATIONS
54:57ACROSS THE COUNTRY BY WORKING
55:00ON STATE LEVEL PREEMPTION, AND
55:02I'M AFRAID THAT MIGHT HAPPEN
55:04HERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
55:05MOVE QUICKLY ON REGULATION TO
55:07MAKE IT CLEAR THAT AS A CITY,
55:09WE CARE ABOUT SAFETY,
55:12ACCOUNTABILITY AND OUR PRIVATE
55:13FOR HIRE WORKERS. I'VE ASKED
55:15PBOT TO BRING FORWARD POLICY
55:18CONCEPTS. I THINK HOPEFULLY
55:20THEY'VE MET WITH MOST OF YOU,
55:22AND WE WILL DISCUSS THIS TODAY
55:24AND THEN GET OUR FEEDBACK AND
55:26THEN BRING BACK A POTENTIAL
55:28ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION AT OUR
55:31OCTOBER 27TH MEETING FOR FOR A
55:33HEARING, PBOT SHARED DRAFT CODE
55:35LANGUAGE AS WELL AS POLICY
55:36CONCEPTS FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS
55:38TO CONSIDER. I HOPE YOU'VE HAD
55:40TIME TO REVIEW IT. WE HAVE TIME
55:42FOR QUESTIONS TODAY AFTER WE
55:43GET A PBOT PRESENTATION. SO
55:47WELCOME. GREAT TO SEE YOU,
55:48SHOSHANA. DO YOU WANT TO KICK
55:50IT OFF?
55:50>> YES. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU.
55:52COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, CLERK
55:53AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
55:54FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS
55:56SHOSHANA COHEN. I'M THE CHIEF
55:57OF STAFF AT THE PORTLAND BUREAU
55:59OF TRANSPORTATION. AS WAS JUST
56:01NOTED, WE'RE HERE AGAIN TODAY
56:02TO TALK ABOUT AUTOMATED
56:05VEHICLES. AND AS WE'VE
56:06DISCUSSED WITH YOU ALL BEFORE,
56:08THIS IS A QUICKLY EVOLVING NEW
56:10TECHNOLOGY. IT'S ALREADY HAVING
56:11A BIG IMPACT ON MULTIPLE CITIES
56:13ACROSS THE COUNTRY. YOU LAST
56:15HEARD FROM US SPECIFICALLY IN
56:16JULY, WHEN WE BROUGHT SOME
56:18POLICY CONCEPTS TO THIS
56:19COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION. AND
56:21SINCE THEN, WE'VE CONTINUED TO
56:22LEARN ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF AVS
56:24FROM PEER CITIES AND HAVE
56:25CONTINUED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT A
56:27REGULATORY FRAMEWORK COULD LOOK
56:28LIKE. HERE. WE HAVE FURTHER
56:30REFINED THE POLICY CONCEPTS
56:32THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH YOU THEN.
56:33AND AS AS CHAIR CLARK JUST SAID,
56:35WE'VE WE'RE BEGINNING TO
56:37PREPARE A PACKAGE OF POTENTIAL
56:38CODE UPDATES THAT COULD BE
56:40IMPLEMENTED ALONG WITH
56:41ADMINISTRATIVE RULE UPDATES.
56:42NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO HERE'S
56:45OUR AGENDA. WE'LL START WITH A
56:48LITTLE BIT OF REFRESH OF SOME
56:50BACKGROUND AND UPDATES ON
56:51POLICY DEVELOPMENT, BOTH HERE
56:52AND IN THE STATE. AND THE STATE
56:54OF THE INDUSTRY IN OREGON WILL
56:56THEN DISCUSS THE PROPOSED CODE
56:57AND ADMINISTRATIVE RULES, WITH
56:59A FOCUS ON SOME OF THE MOST
57:00SIGNIFICANT POLICY AREAS. AND
57:02THEN FINALLY CLOSE OUT WITH A
57:04SUMMARY OF NEXT STEPS. SO I'D
57:08LIKE TO BEGIN AGAIN WITH A
57:09QUICK RECAP OF WHAT'S BEEN
57:10GOING ON IN PORTLAND AND OREGON
57:13AND THE WORK TO DATE. BACK IN
57:162017, A PREVIOUS PORTLAND CITY
57:17COUNCIL PASSED THE SAFE
57:19AUTOMATED VEHICLE INITIATIVE
57:21SAVVY, WHICH CHARGED PBOT WITH
57:23DEVELOPING INITIAL AV
57:24REGULATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THE
57:26NEW INDUSTRY ADVANCED THE
57:27CITY'S SAFETY, EQUITY, CLIMATE
57:29AND ECONOMIC GOALS. BASED ON
57:31THAT DIRECTIVE, PBOT ADOPTED
57:33ADMINISTRATIVE RULES THE
57:34FOLLOWING YEAR THAT ALLOWED FOR
57:36THE TESTING OF AVS WITH A
57:37PERMIT AND PROHIBITED
57:38COMMERCIAL DEPLOYMENT. HOWEVER,
57:41NO TESTING PERMITS UNDER THAT
57:42ADMINISTRATIVE RULE WERE EVER
57:44ISSUED. THAT SAME YEAR, THE
57:46STATE OF OREGON CREATED A TASK
57:47FORCE ON AUTOMATED VEHICLES,
57:49AND THE CITY OF PORTLAND AND
57:50MANY OTHER STAKEHOLDERS
57:52PARTICIPATED IN THAT TASK FORCE,
57:53WHICH ISSUED TWO REPORTS 1 IN
57:562018 AND 1 IN 2019 BEFORE BEING
57:59DISBANDED, DISSOLVED. IT THEN
58:02BECAME CLEAR THAT AUTOMATED
58:03VEHICLES WERE ACTUALLY SOME
58:05YEARS AWAY FROM COMMERCIAL
58:07OPERATIONS, AND WHILE STAFF
58:08CONTINUED TO TRACK THE TOPIC,
58:10WE PAUSED SIGNIFICANT STAFF
58:11WORK ON THE TOPIC LAST FALL,
58:13THEN BECAME AWARE OF A BILL IN
58:16THE STATE LEGISLATURE THAT
58:17WOULD HAVE ENABLED THE
58:18COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS OF AV
58:19STATEWIDE AND PREEMPTED
58:21PORTLAND, AS WELL AS OTHER
58:22LOCAL JURISDICTIONS. REGULATORY
58:24AUTHORITY AROUND AVS. NEXT
58:26SLIDE PLEASE. AT. OH, SORRY, I
58:31THINK I DID. NEXT SLIDE TO TOO
58:32QUICKLY. BUT AT THAT SAME TIME,
58:35WE BECAME AWARE THAT WAYMO WAS
58:37INTERESTED IN COMMERCIAL
58:38OPERATIONS IN PORTLAND. AND WE
58:40ALSO SAW AV OPERATORS PREPARING
58:42TO LAUNCH OPERATIONS IN GREATER
58:43NUMBER OF CITIES AROUND THE US.
58:45AND THIS CAUSED US TO REALIZE
58:47THAT IT REALLY WAS NECESSARY TO
58:48SORT OF DIVE BACK INTO THIS
58:49WORK. THAT'S WHEN WE BEGAN
58:51PROCESSING THE PROCESS OF
58:54UPDATING OUR ADMINISTRATIVE
58:55RULES AND TO THINK ABOUT CODE
58:56UPDATES. AND AT THAT TIME,
58:58IMPORTANTLY, WE ALSO MADE IT
58:59CLEAR, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD THE
59:01EXISTING AV TESTING RULES, WE
59:02WOULDN'T OFFER ANY ANY TESTING
59:04PERMITS UNTIL RULES HAD BEEN
59:05UPDATED. NOW NEXT SLIDE. SO IN
59:09EARLY 2026, THE CITY AND OTHERS
59:11SUBMITTED TESTIMONY AGAINST
59:12THAT STATE AV BILL, AND IT
59:14DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD. WE ALSO
59:16THAT'S WHEN WE BEGAN PRESENTING
59:18AT WHAT WAS THEN THE CITY
59:19COUNCIL'S TRANSPORTATION
59:21INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE ABOUT
59:22THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE
59:24ADMINISTRATIVE RULES IN
59:25FEBRUARY. AND THEN WE HELD AN
59:27EXTENDED PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
59:28FOR THE DRAFT RULES. WE ENGAGED
59:30A VARIETY OF STAKEHOLDERS,
59:32PRIVATE FOR HIRE DRIVERS, ALL
59:33OF OUR COMMITTEES OREGON
59:35DISABILITIES COMMISSION AS WELL
59:37AS OTHERS, AND WE PUBLISHED A
59:39SUMMARY OF THE OVER 200
59:40COMMENTS WE RECEIVED DURING
59:41THAT FEEDBACK PERIOD ON OUR
59:43WEBSITE AND AND SPOKE TO YOU
59:44ONE OF THE TIMES WE WERE HERE.
59:47AND DURING THIS TIME, WE'VE
59:48ALSO BEEN CONNECTING WITH
59:49COLLEAGUES AROUND THE COUNTRY
59:50WHO HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING AVS
59:53FIRSTHAND TO LEARN ABOUT THE
59:54IMPACTS THEY'RE SEEING. THE
59:56NEXT MILESTONE WAS THAT IN IN
59:58APRIL, WAYMO BEGAN MAPPING IN
1:00:00PORTLAND. AND WHILE THEY ARE
1:00:02MAPPING, THEY HAVE A LICENSED
1:00:04HUMAN DRIVER OPERATING. SO THEY
1:00:05DON'T NEED A PERMIT FROM US AT
1:00:07THIS STAGE. WE ALSO KNOW
1:00:08THEY'RE MAPPING IN SOME OF THE
1:00:10OTHER CITIES AROUND THE REGION.
1:00:11AND THEN, AS WE ALREADY SAID,
1:00:13WE BROUGHT SEVEN KEY POLICY
1:00:14CONCEPTS TO THIS COMMITTEE IN
1:00:15JULY FOR DISCUSSION, AND WE'VE
1:00:17CONTINUED TO REFINE SINCE THEN.
1:00:19THE LAST NOTE IS THAT WE'RE
1:00:21ALSO NOW GETTING READY AGAIN
1:00:22FOR THE 2027 STATE LEGISLATIVE
1:00:24SESSION, WHERE WE DO EXPECT AT
1:00:25THIS POINT TO SEE MORE
1:00:27LEGISLATION ALREADY DURING THE
1:00:29RECENT SEPTEMBER LEGISLATIVE
1:00:31DAYS IN SALEM, WAYMO PRESENTED
1:00:33AT THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON
1:00:35TRANSPORTATION. THE
1:00:37PRESENTATION WAS FOCUSED ON ON
1:00:39SAFETY, AND THE WAYMO PUBLIC
1:00:40POLICY MANAGER SAID THAT HE
1:00:41LOOKED FORWARD TO BUILDING ON
1:00:42THE LEGISLATION PRESENTED IN
1:00:43THE PAST, AND REPRESENTATIVE
1:00:46MCLAIN, THE CHAIR OF THE
1:00:47COMMITTEE, STATED THAT SHE
1:00:48WANTED TO AVOID THE PIECEMEAL
1:00:50REGULATION SCENARIO THAT
1:00:51HAPPENED WITH TRANSPORTATION
1:00:52NETWORK COMPANIES. AT THE SAME
1:00:54TIME, OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE
1:00:56NORTH IN WASHINGTON STATE ARE
1:00:57ALSO FACING PRESSURE TO ENABLE
1:00:59AUTOMATED VEHICLE STATEWIDE.
1:01:00WE'VE JUST RECENTLY BEEN GIVEN
1:01:02A COPY OF DRAFT LEGISLATION
1:01:04THAT WE'VE HEARD IS A
1:01:05COLLABORATION BETWEEN TWO
1:01:07ROBOTAXI COMPANIES, ZOOX AND
1:01:08WAYMO, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A
1:01:10CHANCE YET TO SORT OF DIG IN
1:01:11CLOSELY ENOUGH. BUT WE WILL,
1:01:13AND WE EXPECT IT MAY OFFER A
1:01:15GLIMPSE INTO WHAT WE'LL SEE
1:01:16HERE. ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN
1:01:20HAPPENING HERE AND IN OREGON,
1:01:22AND AT THE SAME TIME, IS
1:01:24HAPPENING WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF
1:01:25A NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT
1:01:26THE POTENTIAL CHALLENGES THAT
1:01:29ROBOTAXI OPERATIONS MAY
1:01:30INTRODUCE TO OUR CITIES, AS
1:01:31WELL AS THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS
1:01:33TO PAUSE AND ACKNOWLEDGE.
1:01:34SOMETIMES WE'RE SAYING ROBOTAXI
1:01:36COMPANIES AND SOMETIMES WE'RE
1:01:37SAYING AUTOMATED VEHICLES. IT'S,
1:01:39I THINK, JARGON OF THE INDUSTRY
1:01:42THAT HAS MADE ITS WAY INTO OUR
1:01:44TALKING POINTS. BUT IT'S THE
1:01:45SAME THING. AND LIKE OUR
1:01:48DISCUSSIONS HERE, MANY OTHERS
1:01:50ARE GRAPPLING WITH CONCERNS
1:01:52SUCH AS NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO
1:01:54TRAFFIC SAFETY AND OTHER RIGHT
1:01:55OF WAY USERS. THE LOSS OF JOBS,
1:02:00PRIVACY CONCERNS, POTENTIAL TO
1:02:02GROW VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED,
1:02:04ADD CONGESTION AND IMPACT LAND
1:02:07USE AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS.
1:02:09AND THESE POTENTIAL CHALLENGES
1:02:11HAVE BEEN DRIVING THE
1:02:13REGULATORY POLICY PROPOSALS
1:02:14THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU
1:02:15TODAY FOR CONSIDERATION. AT THE
1:02:17SAME TIME, NOT ALL THE NATIONAL
1:02:19DISCOURSE IS BEEN NEGATIVE. WE
1:02:21ALL KNOW OUR TRANSPORTATION
1:02:23SYSTEM AROUND THE COUNTRY HAS
1:02:25REAL TRAFFIC SAFETY PROBLEMS.
1:02:26SO THE POTENTIAL FOR AVS TO
1:02:28BRING SAFETY BENEFITS IS PART
1:02:30OF THE NATIONAL CONVERSATION.
1:02:31THE FIRST MAJOR THIRD PARTY
1:02:33STUDY LOOKING AT WAYMO SAFETY
1:02:35DATA WAS RECENTLY CONDUCTED BY
1:02:37THE INSURANCE INSTITUTE FOR
1:02:38HIGHWAY SAFETY. AND WHILE WE
1:02:40DEFINITELY WANT TO STILL DIG IN
1:02:41AND BETTER UNDERSTAND THIS
1:02:43STUDY, SO FAR WE'VE HEARD THAT
1:02:45IT FOUND THAT PER MILE WAYMO
1:02:47VEHICLES WERE INVOLVED IN 68%
1:02:49FEWER CRASHES THAN HUMAN
1:02:50DRIVERS. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO
1:02:52THE POTENTIAL FOR AVS TO
1:02:53PROVIDE PERSONAL SAFETY
1:02:55BENEFITS AND TO FEEL SAFER AND
1:02:56MORE COMFORTABLE FOR SOME USERS.
1:02:59WHILE SOME OF US ARE JUST
1:03:00CONSIDERING POTENTIAL
1:03:01CHALLENGES OR BENEFITS, OTHER
1:03:03CITIES, ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE
1:03:04ALREADY EXPERIENCING THEM.
1:03:06THERE ARE AT LEAST 15 OTHER
1:03:08CITIES WHERE AVS ARE ALREADY
1:03:10OPERATING. NEXT SLIDE. AND IN
1:03:12THESE 15 CITIES, THEY'RE ALL
1:03:14OPERATING WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN
1:03:16PREEMPTED BY STATE LEGISLATION
1:03:18AND WITHOUT. AND SO THEY DON'T
1:03:20HAVE THE LOCAL REGULATORY
1:03:21OVERSIGHT. SO WITHOUT THIS
1:03:23REGULATORY OVERSIGHT, THESE
1:03:24CITIES ARE EXPERIENCING
1:03:25CHALLENGES. THEY DON'T KNOW HOW
1:03:27MANY FOR HIRE AVS ARE OPERATING
1:03:29IN THEIR CITIES. THEY DON'T
1:03:30RECEIVE DATA ON WHERE PICK UPS
1:03:31AND DROP OFFS ARE HAPPENING. SO
1:03:33THEY CAN'T WORK TO MANAGE CURB
1:03:34SPACE OR THOUGHTFULLY
1:03:35PRIORITIZE DIFFERENT USERS.
1:03:37WE'RE SEEING CITIES STRUGGLE
1:03:39WITH MANAGING HOW ROBO TAXIS
1:03:40INTERACT WITH LARGE EVENTS, OR
1:03:42EVEN REGULAR EVENTS LIKE
1:03:43FARMERS MARKETS. AND PERHAPS
1:03:45MOST IMPORTANTLY, THESE CITIES
1:03:46HAVE NO WAY TO SUSPEND OR
1:03:48REVOKE AV COMPANY PERMITS. IF
1:03:50THESE CITIES HAVE ISSUES OR
1:03:52COMPLAINTS, THEY HAVE TO RAISE
1:03:54THEM TO STATE REGULATORY
1:03:55REGULATORS WHO MAY NOT
1:03:56UNDERSTAND THE LOCAL CONTEXT OR
1:03:58TAKE ANY ACTION. ON THE OTHER
1:04:01HAND, THE AV COMPANIES WANT TO
1:04:02SEE REGULATION AT THE STATE
1:04:03LEVEL RATHER THAN THE CITY
1:04:05LEVEL. AND AND WE'VE HEARD THEM
1:04:06SAY THAT WITHOUT STATEWIDE
1:04:08CONSISTENCY, THERE'LL BE A
1:04:09PATCHWORK OF REGULATIONS THEY
1:04:10CAN'T OPERATE IN. THIS IS THE
1:04:12SAME ARGUMENT THAT WE HEARD FOR
1:04:14MANY YEARS FROM TRANSPORTATION
1:04:15NETWORK COMPANIES. HOWEVER, THE
1:04:17CITY OF PORTLAND HAS WORKED
1:04:18VERY HARD OVER THE YEARS TO
1:04:20MAINTAIN OUR LOCAL AUTHORITY TO
1:04:22REGULATE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
1:04:23COMPANIES. AND WE'RE ONE OF THE
1:04:24FEW CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY
1:04:26THAT HAS MAINTAINED THIS
1:04:27AUTHORITY, AND IT'S ALLOWED US
1:04:29TO DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS TO
1:04:31COLLECT TRIP LEVEL DATA, TO
1:04:32UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF TAX
1:04:34ON OUR SYSTEM, TO SET OUR OWN
1:04:36TRIP FEES, AND TO DO THINGS
1:04:37LIKE CREATE THE RECENTLY PASSED
1:04:39DRIVER'S RESOURCE CENTER. AND
1:04:42WE HAVE NOT SEEN A PATCHWORK OF
1:04:44REGULATIONS DEVELOP. PORTLAND'S
1:04:46REGULATIONS SERVE AS THE
1:04:47REGION'S REGULATIONS SO DRIVERS
1:04:49CAN GO SEAMLESSLY BETWEEN
1:04:51PORTLAND, BEAVERTON, GRESHAM,
1:04:53WHEREVER ELSE THEY NEED TO
1:04:54DRIVE TO GO TO DRIVE PASSENGERS.
1:05:00SO WE'RE HERE TODAY AGAIN TO
1:05:02SAY, JUST TO SHARE SOME OPTIONS
1:05:03FOR WHAT REGULATIONS COULD
1:05:04POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE HERE.
1:05:06THIS IS A COMPLEX AREA NO OTHER
1:05:08CITY IN THE COUNTRY HAS, AS
1:05:10CHAIR CLARK SAID, HAS PASSED
1:05:12REGULATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL
1:05:13ROBOTAXI SERVICE. YET
1:05:15MINNEAPOLIS AND WASHINGTON, DC
1:05:17ARE SORT OF LIKE US AND CLOSE
1:05:19IN THINKING ABOUT IT,
1:05:20DEVELOPING A REGULATORY
1:05:21FRAMEWORK. AND THE MINNEAPOLIS
1:05:22CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY PASSED A
1:05:24PROPOSAL, BUT IT WAS LATER
1:05:26VETOED BY THE MAYOR A FEW DAYS
1:05:27LATER. SO WHILE THERE'S NO
1:05:29COMPLETE CITY MODEL, WE CAN
1:05:31LOOK TO THE IDEAS WE'VE SHARED
1:05:32WITH YOU TODAY HAVE VERY MUCH
1:05:34BEEN INFORMED BY THE
1:05:35EXPERIENCES OF OTHER CITIES,
1:05:36BOTH THOSE WHO HAVE THEM AND
1:05:38WHO ARE CONSIDERING WHAT MIGHT
1:05:40HAPPEN. AND THE OPTIONS FOR
1:05:42PRESENTING ARE ALSO DESIGNED TO
1:05:44BE ALIGNED WITH PORTLAND SAFETY,
1:05:45CLIMATE EQUITY AND MOBILITY
1:05:47GOALS. AND IN ADDITION TO
1:05:48LOOKING AND TALKING TO PEER
1:05:49CITIES, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH
1:05:50SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT STAFF
1:05:52FROM ACROSS CITY BUREAUS. AND
1:05:55THE FINAL THING BEFORE I HAND
1:05:56IT OVER, IS THAT THE CURRENT
1:05:58PROPOSALS ARE INTENDED TO GO
1:05:59SLOW WITH THE ROLLOUT, TO
1:06:00VERIFY THAT COMPANIES ARE
1:06:01MEETING OUR STANDARDS AND TO
1:06:03ENSURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO
1:06:04EVALUATE THE PROGRAM AND UPDATE
1:06:05OUR REGULATIONS AS NEEDED. AND
1:06:07WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO
1:06:08JACOB SHERMAN TO DIVE IN MORE.
1:06:10>> GREAT. THANKS SO MUCH,
1:06:12SHAUNA. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL
1:06:13VICE PRESIDENT CLARK, MEMBERS
1:06:14OF THE COMMITTEE. FOR THE
1:06:16RECORD, MY NAME IS JACOB
1:06:17SHERMAN. I LEAD THE CITY'S WORK
1:06:18ON EMERGING TECHNOLOGY AT THE
1:06:20BUREAU OF TRANSPORTATION. MY
1:06:22TEAM AND I WORK ON POLICY AND
1:06:24PROJECTS, INCLUDING ELECTRIC
1:06:25VEHICLE, CAR CHARGING GOODS,
1:06:27MOVEMENT, ZERO EMISSION FREIGHT,
1:06:28THE PRIVATE FOR HIRE INDUSTRY,
1:06:30SHARED MICROMOBILITY AND
1:06:32AUTOMATED VEHICLES. NEXT SLIDE.
1:06:34I'D LIKE TO GIVE A QUICK
1:06:36OVERVIEW OF THE CODE PACKAGE
1:06:37AND ADMINISTRATIVE RULES THAT
1:06:39KIND OF SHAPE UP OUR REGULATORY
1:06:41APPROACH. I'M GOING TO GO
1:06:42THROUGH THIS AT A REALLY HIGH
1:06:44LEVEL TO HELP YOU GET KIND OF
1:06:45THE COMPLETE PICTURE. AND THEN
1:06:47I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MY
1:06:48COLLEAGUE HANNAH, WHO'S GOING
1:06:50TO DIVE IN ON SOME OF THE
1:06:51SPECIFIC POLICY PROPOSALS. I
1:06:53THINK IN MANY WAYS, KIND OF
1:06:55PRESENTING THIS COMPLETE
1:06:56PICTURE AS AS A PUZZLE AND NOT
1:06:58FOCUSING SO MUCH ON THE
1:06:59INDIVIDUAL PIECES, BUT THE BIG
1:07:01PICTURE. SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND
1:07:02THAT AGAIN, BEFORE DIVING IN.
1:07:05FIRST, I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE
1:07:06DRAFT ADMINISTRATIVE RULES THAT
1:07:08WE'RE PROPOSING WILL NOT GO
1:07:09INTO EFFECT UNTIL AT LEAST JULY
1:07:121ST, 2027, AT THE EARLIEST.
1:07:14ANYTHING THAT YOU PASS WILL
1:07:16TAKE TIME FOR US TO BUILD THE
1:07:17SYSTEMS AND PROCESSES TO
1:07:19ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT. AND SO
1:07:21WE'LL NEED WE WOULD NEED ANY
1:07:23TIME AND WOULD NOT BE ISSUING
1:07:24ANY PERMITS IN THE MEANTIME.
1:07:26NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS THE SET
1:07:29OF REGULATIONS THAT TOGETHER,
1:07:30WE THINK WILL MANAGE THE
1:07:32OPERATION OF FOUR AYE, MORILLO
1:07:33VEHICLES. I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT
1:07:35A FEW THINGS. FIRST, ALL AV
1:07:38COMPANIES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO
1:07:39SUBMIT A MAP OF THE AREA OF THE
1:07:41CITY THAT THEY INTEND TO
1:07:42OPERATE, AS WELL AS A
1:07:44DESCRIPTION OF WHAT TIME, WHAT
1:07:46ROADS, WHAT SPEED LIMITS, WHAT
1:07:48WEATHER, AND WHAT OTHER KIND OF
1:07:50CONDITIONS THEY WOULD BE
1:07:51OPERATING IN BEFORE THEY COULD
1:07:53BEGIN THOSE OPERATIONS, CITY
1:07:55STAFF AND THE CITY
1:07:56ADMINISTRATOR WOULD HAVE TO
1:07:57REVIEW AND APPROVE THESE
1:07:58MATERIALS, KNOWN AS AN
1:07:59OPERATIONAL DESIGN DOMAIN, IF
1:08:01THE COMPANIES WANTED TO CHANGE
1:08:03THOSE AT ANY ASPECT IN THE
1:08:04FUTURE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO
1:08:06RESUBMIT AND GET REAPPROVED
1:08:08OPERATIONAL DESIGN DOMAINS.
1:08:09THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS
1:08:10IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
1:08:12CURRENTLY. SECOND, OUR PROPOSAL
1:08:14REQUIRES THAT FOR HIRE AVS BE
1:08:16FULLY BATTERY ELECTRIC AND
1:08:18REGISTERED IN OREGON. THIS
1:08:19WOULD AUTOMATICALLY REQUIRE
1:08:21THEM TO BE ENROLLED IN THE
1:08:22OREGO PROGRAM, WHICH IS
1:08:24OREGON'S ROAD USAGE CHARGE
1:08:25PROGRAM THAT RESULTS IN A PER
1:08:27MILE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED FEE
1:08:30TO HELP OFFSET THE STATE'S LACK
1:08:32OF GAS TAX THAT COMES FROM AVS
1:08:35OR FROM EVS. WE THINK THIS IS A
1:08:37REALLY KIND OF IMPORTANT
1:08:38APPROACH AND WANTED TO
1:08:40HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR YOU ALL.
1:08:41NEXT SLIDE. WE ALSO HAVE A SET
1:08:44OF DIFFERENT REGULATIONS THAT
1:08:45TOGETHER FOCUS ON SAFETY AND
1:08:47REPORTING AND VISION ZERO TO
1:08:48BETTER UNDERSTAND ANY COMPANY'S
1:08:50SAFETY RECORD, ALL COMPANIES
1:08:52WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A
1:08:54DESCRIPTION OF THEIR EXPERIENCE,
1:08:55INCLUDING ALL REPORTED CRASHES,
1:08:57INJURIES AND INCIDENTS THAT
1:08:59NEGATIVELY IMPACTED THE TRAFFIC
1:09:01SYSTEM. COMPANIES WOULD ALSO BE
1:09:02REQUIRED TO SHARE ANY CRASH
1:09:04RECORDS THAT THEY MUST FILE
1:09:06WITH THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY
1:09:07TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION
1:09:09WITH PBOT, AS WELL AS WITH THE
1:09:11STATE OF OREGON. ALL COMPANIES
1:09:13WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AND
1:09:15REVIEW AND RECEIVE APPROVAL FOR
1:09:17THAT OPERATIONS PLAN, DETAILING
1:09:19HOW THEY'LL HANDLE PORTLAND
1:09:21SPECIFIC ELEMENTS OF THE
1:09:22TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, SUCH AS
1:09:24SOME OF OUR BIKE BUSSES OR OUR
1:09:26UNIQUE BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE
1:09:28THAT WE HAVE. WE'RE ALSO
1:09:30WORKING WITH THE CITY
1:09:31ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON A SET OF
1:09:33INSURANCE AND LIABILITY LEVELS
1:09:35TO PROTECT ALL PORTLANDERS.
1:09:36BOTH PASSENGERS INSIDE THE AVS,
1:09:38AS WELL AS EVERYONE ELSE IN THE
1:09:40PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. NEXT SLIDE.
1:09:43WHILE THERE'S MANY PROMISES TO
1:09:45SOME OF THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY,
1:09:47THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE
1:09:48REQUIRE COORDINATION WITH THE
1:09:49CITY TO REALLY BE REALIZED. SO,
1:09:51FOR EXAMPLE, WE THINK AV
1:09:53COMPANIES MUST COMPLY WITH CITY
1:09:54ISSUED GEOFENCES TO ENSURE THAT
1:09:57THEIR VEHICLES ARE NOT
1:09:58DISRUPTING EVENTS IN THE STREET,
1:10:00SUCH AS A SUNDAY PARKWAYS EVENT,
1:10:02A CRASH THAT COULD OCCUR, THE
1:10:04PORTLAND MARATHON OR OTHER
1:10:05KINDS OF FIRST RESPONDER EVENTS.
1:10:08ADDITIONALLY, WE'D LIKE AV
1:10:09COMPANIES TO SHARE TRIP DATA
1:10:10WITH THE CITY SO WE CAN FULLY
1:10:12UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THIS
1:10:13NEW TECHNOLOGY AND USE THAT
1:10:14DATA TO HELP INFORM POLICY AND
1:10:17CHANGES IN THE FUTURE. BY
1:10:19SHARING WHERE PICK UP AND DROP
1:10:21OFFS OCCUR, WE CAN ADD PICKUP
1:10:22AND DROP OFF SPACES TO THE CURB.
1:10:25WE CURRENTLY HAVE SOME OF THESE
1:10:26KNOWN AS FAST STOPS, TO HELP
1:10:28ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING SAFE
1:10:31PICKUP AND DROP OFF AND NOT
1:10:32DOING PICKUP AND DROP OFF AND
1:10:34THINGS LIKE THE BICYCLE LANE.
1:10:36WE HAVE A SET OF DATA PRIVACY
1:10:38REQUIREMENTS THAT HANNAH WILL
1:10:39DIVE. HANNAH WILL DIVE DEEPER
1:10:41INTO IN A MOMENT. NEXT SLIDE.
1:10:45THE FINAL KIND OF BIG PICTURE
1:10:47OVERVIEW SET OF REGULATIONS IS
1:10:49TO USE OUR LOCAL AUTHORITY TO
1:10:51ACTIVELY MANAGE THE PACE OF
1:10:53CHANGE. AS SHOSHANA SAID
1:10:55EARLIER, OUR PROPOSED STRATEGY
1:10:56IS TO GO SLOW AND VERIFY
1:10:59COMPLIANCE AND SAFE OPERATIONS
1:11:00OF AVS AND TO EVALUATE CHANGE
1:11:03AS NEEDED. TO THIS END, PBOT IS
1:11:05PROPOSING WE'D CONDUCT AN
1:11:07ANNUAL REVIEW OF OPERATIONS AND
1:11:08SAFETY. WE DEVELOP A REPORT
1:11:10THAT WOULD HELP INFORM CHANGES
1:11:12TO FLEET CAPS, WHICH HANNAH
1:11:14WILL TALK ABOUT NEXT, AS WELL
1:11:15AS ANY OTHER CHANGES THAT MAY
1:11:17BE NEEDED. WE'LL ALSO REQUIRE
1:11:19COMPANIES TO CONDUCT TRAINING
1:11:21AND DEMONSTRATION EVENTS WITH
1:11:22FIRST RESPONDERS TO HELP ENSURE
1:11:24THAT POLICE, FIRE AND OTHER
1:11:26FIRST RESPONDERS KNOW HOW TO
1:11:28MANAGE AVS IN AN EMERGENCY
1:11:31SITUATION. NEXT SLIDE. SO
1:11:33TOGETHER, KIND OF BIG PICTURE.
1:11:34WE THINK THIS PACKAGE OF POLICY
1:11:36PROPOSALS IS DESIGNED TO SET A
1:11:38HIGH BAR FOR AV OPERATIONS.
1:11:40SOME OF THE POLICIES WE'RE
1:11:42DISCUSSING WILL BE ADVANCED
1:11:44THROUGH CITY CODE, WHILE OTHER
1:11:45WOULD BE ADVANCED THROUGH
1:11:46ADMINISTRATIVE RULES. AND THIS
1:11:48IS BECAUSE THERE'S A FEW
1:11:49DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT WE THINK
1:11:51ABOUT WHEN DETERMINING WHETHER
1:11:53WE RECOMMEND SOMETHING BE IN
1:11:54CITY CODE OR ADMIN RULE. CITY
1:11:56CODE, AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, IS
1:11:58GENERALLY RESERVED FOR POLICIES
1:11:59THAT ARE BIGGER PICTURE AND
1:12:00MORE FOUNDATIONAL AND DURABLE,
1:12:02RATHER THAN KIND OF FINE
1:12:04GRAINED, FINE GRAINED
1:12:07IMPLEMENTATION. THINGS THAT
1:12:08MIGHT NEED TO CHANGE IN THE
1:12:09FUTURE, SUCH AS ADMINISTRATIVE
1:12:11RULES, WHICH IS THE PLACE WHERE
1:12:12WE REALLY DEFINE HOW POLICIES
1:12:14ARE IMPLEMENTED AND CAN BE
1:12:17DYNAMIC AND UPDATED MORE
1:12:19REGULARLY. ADMINISTRATIVE RULES,
1:12:21THOUGH IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE,
1:12:22HAVE A PUBLIC PROCESS. THEY'RE
1:12:24SHARED WITH CITY COUNCIL BEFORE
1:12:26ANY REVIEW OR BEFORE ANY
1:12:28APPROVAL HAPPENS, AND THEY'RE
1:12:29ALSO SUBJECT TO PUBLIC SCRUTINY.
1:12:32SO GIVEN THE NATURE OF TRYING
1:12:34TO REGULATE A BRAND NEW
1:12:36TECHNOLOGY THAT'S RAPIDLY
1:12:38EVOLVING, WE'RE PROPOSING
1:12:39PUTTING SOME POLICY IN CODE AND
1:12:41OTHER POLICY AND ADMINISTRATIVE
1:12:43RULES SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE
1:12:44CHANGES AS WE GO FORWARD. I'M
1:12:46GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO HANNAH.
1:12:48NOW, WHO'S GOING TO DIG IN ON
1:12:49SOME OF THOSE SPECIFIC POLICY
1:12:51PROPOSALS?
1:12:52>> THANKS, JACOB.
1:12:53>> GOOD MORNING, VICE VICE
1:12:55PRESIDENT CLARK AND COUNCILORS.
1:12:56FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS
1:12:57HANNAH MORRISON, AND I'M A
1:12:59PLANNER ON THE MOBILITY
1:13:00INNOVATION SECTION AT PBOT. AS
1:13:02YOU MAY REMEMBER, WE BROUGHT A
1:13:03SET OF POLICY CONCEPTS TO YOU
1:13:05ALL THIS SUMMER TO GET FEEDBACK
1:13:06AND DIRECTION. AND BASED ON
1:13:07THOSE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD
1:13:08WITH YOU ALL, WE'VE REFINED
1:13:10THOSE POLICIES, AND I'M GOING
1:13:11TO DIG IN A LITTLE DEEPER. THE
1:13:14FIRST POLICY PROPOSAL IS THE
1:13:15ONE THAT SETS THE STAGE REALLY
1:13:17FOR EVERYTHING ELSE. THE CITY
1:13:18HAS REGULATED PRIVATE FOR HIRE
1:13:19TRANSPORTATION FOR OVER 100
1:13:21YEARS, AND WE NEED TO ADD
1:13:22DEFINITIONS OF AUTOMATED
1:13:23VEHICLES INTO OUR PRIVATE FOR
1:13:25HIRE CODE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT
1:13:26THE COMPANIES USING AVS TO
1:13:28OFFER A PRIVATE FOR HIRE
1:13:29SERVICE ARE REGULATED. LIKE
1:13:30OTHERS IN THE INDUSTRY, THIS
1:13:32PROPOSAL HAS NOT CHANGED
1:13:34SUBSTANTIVELY SINCE JULY. IN
1:13:36ADDITION TO ADDING A DEFINITION
1:13:37FOR AUTOMATED VEHICLES, WE HAVE
1:13:38ADDED A FEW OTHER AV SPECIFIC
1:13:40DEFINITIONS, AS YOU SEE ON THE
1:13:42SLIDE, AND ADDED SOME AV
1:13:43SPECIFIC LANGUAGE TO A FEW
1:13:44OTHER DEFINITIONS. AND ALL OF
1:13:46THESE ARE BASED ON LANGUAGE
1:13:47FROM THE SOCIETY OF AUTOMOBILE
1:13:49ENGINEERS, WHICH REALLY SETS
1:13:50THE NATIONAL STANDARD. THE
1:13:54SECOND POLICY CONCEPT IS TO
1:13:56ESTABLISH THE AUTHORITY TO SET
1:13:57FLEET CAPS FOR AVS IN CITY CODE.
1:13:59THESE FLEET CAPS WOULD APPLY TO
1:14:01BOTH AVS WITH TESTING PERMITS
1:14:03AND FOR HIRE PERMITS, AND
1:14:05SETTING THESE CAPS ON AVS WILL
1:14:06HELP US SAFELY MANAGE THIS
1:14:08CHANGE TO OUR STREETS AND THE
1:14:09FOR HIRE INDUSTRY. THIS
1:14:11PROPOSAL SETS THE EXPECTATION
1:14:12THAT, BASED ON THE ANNUAL
1:14:13EVALUATION OF OPERATIONAL
1:14:15IMPACTS OF AVS THAT JACOB JUST
1:14:16TALKED ABOUT, THE CITY
1:14:18ADMINISTRATOR WOULD PROPOSE
1:14:19UPDATES TO BOTH THE PER COMPANY
1:14:21FLEET CAP AND THE CITYWIDE FOR
1:14:22HIRE AV FLEET CAP. SINCE WE ARE
1:14:25PROPOSING THE ACTUAL FLEET CAP
1:14:26NUMBERS TO BE SET, AN
1:14:27ADMINISTRATIVE RULE, ANY UPDATE
1:14:30TO THE FLEET CAP NUMBERS WOULD
1:14:31THEN GO THROUGH THE
1:14:32ADMINISTRATIVE RULE PUBLIC
1:14:33PROCESS WITH A 30 DAY PUBLIC
1:14:35COMMENT PERIOD AND OPTION FOR A
1:14:36PUBLIC HEARING. THIS PUBLIC
1:14:38ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WOULD HELP
1:14:39ENSURE THAT ANY CHANGES TO AV
1:14:41FLEET CAPS OCCUR THROUGH
1:14:42TRANSPARENT CONVERSATION WITH
1:14:43THE PUBLIC AND WITH CITY
1:14:45COUNCIL, AND IS INFORMED BY
1:14:46DETAILED REPORTING ON
1:14:48PORTLAND'S ON THE GROUND
1:14:49EXPERIENCE WITH AVS. WITH THAT
1:14:52IN MIND, I DO WANT TO SHARE AN
1:14:53INITIAL PROPOSAL OF PER COMPANY
1:14:55AND CITY WIDE AV FLEET CAPS.
1:14:56FOR THE FIRST YEAR, WE
1:14:58CONSIDERED A FEW THINGS WHILE
1:15:00DEVELOPING THIS PROPOSAL. FIRST,
1:15:01THERE ARE CURRENTLY OVER 15,000
1:15:03PERMITTED UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS
1:15:05IN THE CITY. WHILE THEY'RE NOT
1:15:06ALL DRIVING FULL TIME, SO IT'S
1:15:08NOT A 1 TO 1 COMPARISON. WE
1:15:10TRIED TO KEEP THE NUMBER OF AVS
1:15:11SMALL COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF
1:15:12HUMAN FOR HIRE DRIVERS. WE ALSO
1:15:14LOOKED AT FLEET CAPS OR FLEET
1:15:16SIZES AND OTHER CITIES, WHICH
1:15:18IS ADMITTEDLY CHALLENGING SINCE
1:15:19NO OTHER CITIES HAVE
1:15:20REGULATIONS THAT REQUIRE
1:15:21COMPANIES TO TELL THEM JUST HOW
1:15:23MANY AVS ARE OPERATING IN THEIR
1:15:24CITY. BUT THIRD PARTIES HAVE
1:15:26ESTIMATED OVER A THOUSAND AVS
1:15:28IN SAN FRANCISCO, WHICH IS
1:15:29LIKELY THE LARGEST FOR HIRE
1:15:31MARKET. SO THESE PROPOSED YEAR
1:15:33ONE FLEET CAPS WOULD LIMIT THE
1:15:35FLEET TO ROUGHLY 1.5% OF
1:15:37PORTLAND'S TOTAL PRIVATE FOR
1:15:38HIRE FLEET, ALLOWING FOR A
1:15:40SMALL ROLLOUT OF THIS NEW
1:15:42TECHNOLOGY. WHILE THE REST OF
1:15:42OUR REGULATIONS THAT JACOB
1:15:44SHARED WORK IN CONCERT WITH
1:15:46EACH OTHER TO MANAGE DAILY
1:15:47OPERATIONS. THE NEXT POLICY
1:15:51PROPOSAL IS TO CLEARLY DEFINE
1:15:52TESTING PERMIT METRICS. SO
1:15:54UNDER THIS PROPOSAL, EVERY AV
1:15:56COMPANY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO
1:15:57BEGIN LOCAL OPERATIONS WITH A
1:15:59TESTING PERMIT TO ENSURE THAT
1:16:00THEY PROVE THEIR TECHNOLOGY CAN
1:16:02NAVIGATE THE UNIQUE ASPECTS OF
1:16:03PORTLAND STREETS. THIS TESTING
1:16:05PERMIT IS A REQUIRED FIRST STEP.
1:16:07BEFORE AV COMPANIES COULD OFFER
1:16:08ANY PAID RIDES WITH A FOR HIRE
1:16:10PERMIT, ALL COMPANIES AV DRIVER
1:16:13OR THAT SOFTWARE SYSTEM THAT IS
1:16:14THEIR AV DRIVER WOULD BE
1:16:16REQUIRED TO LOG 50,000 MILES
1:16:18CUMULATIVELY ACROSS THEIR FLEET
1:16:19WITH A TESTING PERMIT, BEFORE
1:16:21BECOMING ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR
1:16:23THAT FOR HIRE. AV PERMIT THIS
1:16:2550,000 MILE REQUIREMENT IS
1:16:27BASED OFF OF BEST PRACTICES
1:16:28FROM CALIFORNIA'S STATE LEVEL
1:16:31REGULATIONS, BUT WE ALSO
1:16:32BELIEVE IT'S THE RIGHT BALANCE
1:16:33OR COULD BE THE RIGHT BALANCE,
1:16:34BETWEEN PROVING THAT THE AV
1:16:36DRIVER CAN SAFELY NAVIGATE OUR
1:16:37CITY WHILE NOT BEING TOO MANY
1:16:38MILES, THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING.
1:16:40EMPTY VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED ON
1:16:41OUR STREETS, AND WHILE THE SAME
1:16:44AV DRIVER WOULD BE COMPLETING
1:16:45THE ENTIRE 50,000 MILE
1:16:48REQUIREMENT, THIS PROPOSAL DOES
1:16:49SPLIT TESTING INTO TWO PHASES.
1:16:50AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING BASED
1:16:51OFF OF BEST PRACTICES IN
1:16:53CALIFORNIA. THE FIRST 25,000
1:16:55MILES OF A TESTING PERMIT MUST
1:16:57BE
1:16:57>> BE COMPLETED WITH A LICENSED
1:16:58HUMAN DRIVER IN THE VEHICLE,
1:16:59WHILE THE SECOND 25,000 MILES
1:17:01COULD BE COMPLETED WITH NO
1:17:02HUMAN DRIVER IN THE VEHICLE.
1:17:07NEXT IS THE PROPOSAL AROUND
1:17:08METRICS FOR PERMIT SUSPENSION.
1:17:09FOR THAT A DRIVER, AND THESE
1:17:11METRICS WERE REALLY INFORMED BY
1:17:13THE MANY CLAIMS FROM AV
1:17:15COMPANIES THAT THEIR AV DRIVERS
1:17:16ARE MUCH SAFER THAN HUMAN
1:17:18DRIVERS. THESE METRICS WERE
1:17:19INFORMED. WE HAVE A STANDARD
1:17:21FOR HUMAN PRIVATE HIRE DRIVERS
1:17:22TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE PERMITTING
1:17:24SAFE DRIVERS, AND IN PORTLAND,
1:17:26WE SUSPEND A HUMAN TAXI, UBER
1:17:27OR LYFT DRIVER IF THEY GET TWO
1:17:29TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS IN A SINGLE
1:17:31YEAR OR A TOTAL OF THREE
1:17:32VIOLATIONS IN FIVE YEARS. AND
1:17:34HERE WE'RE REALLY PROPOSING
1:17:35HOLDING THE ROBOTAXIS TO A
1:17:36SIMILAR STANDARD. ONE KEY
1:17:39DIFFERENCE IS THAT SINCE AV
1:17:41DRIVERS AV COMPANIES TREAT
1:17:42THEIR SOFTWARE AS A SINGULAR
1:17:44DRIVER, WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING
1:17:45VIOLATIONS BY ANY CAR WITHIN A
1:17:47COMPANY'S FLEET AS ACCUMULATING
1:17:48TO THAT SAME AV DRIVER. SO IF
1:17:51TWO SEPARATE VEHICLES WITHIN
1:17:52ONE COMPANY'S FLEET EACH GET A
1:17:53TRAFFIC VIOLATION, OR ARE
1:17:55OTHERWISE FOUND TO BE OPERATING
1:17:56IN AN UNSAFE MANNER, THAT WOULD
1:17:58COUNT AS TWO VIOLATIONS FOR
1:17:59THAT COMPANY'S AV DRIVER, AND
1:18:01WOULD BE GROUNDS FOR SUSPENDING
1:18:02THE COMPANY'S PERMIT. THIS
1:18:04PERMIT WOULD BE SUSPENDED UNTIL
1:18:05THE COMPANY CAN CERTIFY TO THE
1:18:07CITY THAT THE ISSUE, OR ISSUES
1:18:09FOR WHICH THEIR AV DRIVER
1:18:10RECEIVED THE VIOLATIONS ARE
1:18:11RESOLVED, AND THIS PROCESS
1:18:13WOULD REPEAT FOR SUBSEQUENT
1:18:15VIOLATIONS. SO ADDITIONALLY, IF
1:18:16THE AV DRIVER CONTINUES TO
1:18:18REPEAT THAT SAME UNSAFE
1:18:20BEHAVIOR THAT THE COMPANY HAS
1:18:21ALREADY CERTIFIED THAT THEY'VE
1:18:23RESOLVED, THIS COULD BECOME
1:18:24GROUNDS FOR ADDITIONAL ACTION
1:18:25LIKE FINES OR PERMIT REVOCATION.
1:18:28WE BELIEVE THIS IS A MUCH
1:18:29HIGHER STANDARD FOR ANY
1:18:30POTENTIAL PERMIT SUSPENSION
1:18:31THAN ANYTHING ELSE WE'VE SEEN
1:18:33PROPOSED IN THE STATES, AND
1:18:34THAT IT COULD HELP ADDRESS SOME
1:18:35OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE SEEN IN
1:18:37OTHER CITIES. THIS NEXT POLICY
1:18:41CONCEPT IS ALSO SAFETY FOCUSED.
1:18:43WE HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS
1:18:45ABOUT THE SAFETY HAZARD OF AVS
1:18:46AND VEHICLES IN GENERAL,
1:18:49STOPPING IN BICYCLE LANES TO
1:18:50WAIT TO PICK UP PASSENGERS OR
1:18:51TO DROP THEM OFF. SO THERE IS
1:18:53EXISTING CITY CODE THAT
1:18:55CURRENTLY STATES THAT ALL
1:18:56DRIVERS ARE LIMITED TO STOPPING
1:18:57IN ANY STREET, BICYCLE LANE OR
1:18:59TRANSIT LANE FOR NO MORE THAN
1:19:0130S TO LOAD OR UNLOAD
1:19:02PASSENGERS. SO OUR SUGGESTION
1:19:04HERE IS THAT WE WOULD REAFFIRM
1:19:06THE MAXIMUM STOP TIME OF 30S
1:19:08FOR ALL PRIVATE FOR HIRE
1:19:09DRIVERS IN CITY CODE. GIVEN
1:19:12THAT AVS SOMETIMES WAIT FOR TWO
1:19:14MINUTES, IF NOT MORE, FOR
1:19:16PASSENGERS TO ENTER THE AV AND
1:19:17START THEIR RIDE, THIS SHOULD
1:19:18PROHIBIT THEM FROM WAITING IN
1:19:20BICYCLE LANES TO PICK UP
1:19:21PASSENGERS. I DO WANT TO NOTE
1:19:23THAT THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION
1:19:24FOR THIS POLICY CONCEPT, AND
1:19:25THAT WOULD BE TO FULLY BAN
1:19:27PICKUP AND DROP OFFS IN BICYCLE
1:19:28LANES OR TRANSIT LANES. THIS
1:19:31POLICY MOVE WOULD PROBABLY MAKE
1:19:32MORE SENSE TO IMPLEMENT ACROSS
1:19:33THE ENTIRE PRIVATE FOR HIRE
1:19:35INDUSTRY, NOT JUST AVS. THIS
1:19:37COULD LEAD TO MORE STOPPING AND
1:19:39TRAVEL LANES AND POTENTIALLY
1:19:40HAVE UNINTENDED SAFETY OR
1:19:41MOBILITY CONSEQUENCES. BUT WE
1:19:43JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
1:19:45THIS IS ANOTHER POLICY OPTION
1:19:46TO CONSIDER. SHOULD YOU ALL
1:19:47WANT TO GO FURTHER? THIS NEXT
1:19:51POLICY PROPOSAL FOCUSES ON
1:19:52LIMITATIONS ON THE SALE,
1:19:53SHARING OR TRANSFERRING OF DATA
1:19:55COLLECTED BY AVS. AND WE'VE
1:19:57PROPOSED ADDING THIS TO THE
1:19:58ADMINISTRATIVE RULES SO THAT WE
1:19:59CAN DYNAMICALLY RESPOND TO ANY
1:20:01CHANGES IN DATA COLLECTED OR
1:20:02NEW PRIVACY BEST PRACTICES THAT
1:20:03MAY EMERGE. WE KNOW THAT AVS
1:20:06COLLECT DATA BOTH INSIDE AND
1:20:08OUTSIDE OF THEIR VEHICLES. MOST
1:20:09AVS USE A COMBINATION OF LIDAR
1:20:11RADAR, 360 DEGREE VIDEO AND
1:20:13AUDIO DATA COLLECTED FROM THEIR
1:20:16VEHICLES. AND WHILE SOME OF
1:20:17THIS DATA IS USED FOR SAFE
1:20:19OPERATIONS OF AVS, WE DO KNOW
1:20:20IT WILL BE CRITICAL TO PUT
1:20:21STRONG SAFEGUARDS AROUND THE
1:20:22USE OF THIS DATA. SO WE HAVE
1:20:24CONSULTED WITH THE CITY DATA
1:20:25AND PRIVACY OFFICE TO ENSURE
1:20:27THAT THESE REGULATIONS WOULD BE
1:20:29CONSISTENT WITH RELATED CITY
1:20:30POLICY ON SURVEILLANCE AND
1:20:31PRIVACY, AND ARE CONSIDERED
1:20:32BEST PRACTICES. THE FIRST
1:20:35PROPOSAL IS TO PROHIBIT AV
1:20:37COMPANIES FROM SELLING ANY DATA
1:20:39COLLECTED BY THEIR AVS ON CITY
1:20:40OF PORTLAND STREETS. COMPANIES
1:20:42SHOULD NOT GET TO PROFIT OFF OF
1:20:43THE DATA THAT THEY COLLECT IN
1:20:45OUR CITY. THE SECOND PROPOSAL
1:20:47IS TO REQUIRE CITY
1:20:48ADMINISTRATOR APPROVAL BEFORE
1:20:49SHARING OR TRANSFERRING ANY
1:20:50DATA. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE MANY
1:20:53USE CASES FOR THIS, BUT WE
1:20:54COULD POTENTIALLY BE INTERESTED
1:20:55IN SHARING DATA WITH A THIRD
1:20:57PARTY TO HELP US ANALYZE TRIP
1:20:58LOCATION DATA AND OPERATIONS.
1:21:01FINALLY, WE WOULD REQUIRE A
1:21:02WARRANT SIGNED BY A JUDGE
1:21:03BEFORE ANY DATA COLLECTED ON
1:21:05OUR STREETS IS SHARED WITH OR
1:21:06TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER
1:21:07GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. TOGETHER,
1:21:10WE THINK THAT THESE POLICIES
1:21:11WILL ALLOW COMPANIES TO OPERATE
1:21:12WHILE ALSO ENACTING STRONG,
1:21:14STRONG REGULATIONS THAT PROTECT
1:21:16PORTLANDERS FROM UNNECESSARY
1:21:17SURVEILLANCE. NEXT, I'D LIKE TO
1:21:22INTRODUCE A NEW POLICY PROPOSAL,
1:21:24WHICH IS TO DEFINE REMOTE
1:21:25OPERATORS IN CITY CODE. REMOTE
1:21:27OPERATORS REFER TO HUMANS WHO
1:21:29INTERVENE IN AV OPERATIONS. IF
1:21:31THE AV ENCOUNTERS AN UNKNOWN
1:21:33SITUATION OR IS UNCERTAIN ON
1:21:34HOW TO PROCEED. IT HAS BEEN
1:21:36REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET A
1:21:37COMPLETE PICTURE OF HOW OFTEN
1:21:38REMOTE OPERATORS INTERVENE IN
1:21:41AV OPERATIONS, BUT A SENATE
1:21:42INVESTIGATION EARLIER THIS YEAR
1:21:43FOUND THAT REMOTE OPERATORS
1:21:45COULD BE LOCATED OVERSEAS, AND
1:21:47THAT MANY DO NOT HOLD U.S.
1:21:48DRIVER'S LICENSES. WITH THE
1:21:50CURRENT LACK OF FEDERAL
1:21:51GUIDANCE ON REMOTE OPERATIONS,
1:21:53WE FEEL IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
1:21:54HERE TO SET MINIMUM
1:21:56REQUIREMENTS THAT ALL REMOTE
1:21:57OPERATORS MUST HOLD A US BASED
1:21:59DRIVER'S LICENSE AND BE BASED
1:22:00IN THE UNITED STATES.
1:22:02CALIFORNIA HAS ALSO RECENTLY
1:22:04TAKEN STEPS TO DEFINE REMOTE
1:22:05OPERATORS AND NEW REGULATIONS
1:22:07FROM THE CALIFORNIA DMV, WHICH
1:22:08WILL BECOME ACTIVE IN JULY 2028,
1:22:11STATE THE SAME REQUIREMENTS WE
1:22:12HAVE PROPOSED HERE THAT ALL
1:22:13REMOTE OPERATORS FOR FLEETS
1:22:15ACTIVE IN CALIFORNIA HAVE A US
1:22:16BASED DRIVER'S LICENSE AND BE
1:22:18BASED IN THE US. AND THEN THIS
1:22:21IS THE FINAL POLICY PROPOSAL.
1:22:24FIRST, AVS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO
1:22:25THE SAME FEES AS TNCS,
1:22:27INCLUDING ALL PERMIT AND PER
1:22:28TRIP FEES. IN ADDITION, IS THE
1:22:31ESTABLISHMENT OF A PER TRIP
1:22:32DRIVER SUPPORT FEE TO SUPPORT
1:22:33WORKERS. DUE TO THIS
1:22:35UNPRECEDENTED CHANGE, A DRIVER
1:22:37SUPPORT FEE COULD PROVIDE FUNDS
1:22:38FOR THINGS LIKE JOB TRAINING,
1:22:40JOB PLACEMENT OR OTHER SUPPORT.
1:22:42WE KNOW COUNCIL JUST PASSED THE
1:22:44DRIVER'S RESOURCE CENTER
1:22:44ORDINANCE, AND THERE MAY BE A
1:22:46WAY TO CONNECT THESE WORKFORCE
1:22:47TRANSITION ACTIVITIES TO THAT
1:22:48NEW CENTER. THE DRIVER SUPPORT
1:22:50FEE WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE
1:22:51FEE SCHEDULE, WHICH IS THE SAME
1:22:53AS THE TNC PER TRIP FEE AND
1:22:54PERMIT FEES. THE FEE SCHEDULE
1:22:56IS UPDATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS
1:22:57EACH FISCAL YEAR AND HAS CITY
1:22:59COUNCIL OVERSIGHT, AND WE
1:23:00PROPOSE TO FOLLOW THAT EXISTING
1:23:02ANNUAL PROCESS HERE WITH THIS
1:23:03NEW FEE. AND FINALLY, WE DO
1:23:06WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE
1:23:07MAY BE A NEED FOR OTHER IMPACT
1:23:09FEES DUE TO THE CONTINUED
1:23:10GROWTH AND IMPACTS OF THE
1:23:11ENTIRE PRIVATE FOR HIRE
1:23:12INDUSTRY ON OUR STREETS.
1:23:13HOWEVER, WE DO THINK THAT ANY
1:23:15ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEE SHOULD BE
1:23:16CONSIDERED AFTER WE'VE HAD A
1:23:17CHANCE TO EVALUATE THE ACTUAL
1:23:19IMPACT OF AVS ON OUR STREETS
1:23:21AND THAT THESE IMPACT FEES
1:23:22SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THE
1:23:23PRIVATE HIRE PRIVATE FOR HIRE
1:23:24INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE, NOT JUST
1:23:26FOR AVS. THANK YOU. AND I'D NOW
1:23:28LIKE TO HAND IT BACK TO
1:23:29SHOSHANA FOR NEXT STEPS.
1:23:32>> THANK YOU HANNAH. I THINK
1:23:33NEXT SLIDE. SO JUST BRIEFLY TO
1:23:36RECAP AGAIN, WE KNOW THERE'S
1:23:38ADDITIONAL PROPOSALS THAT COULD
1:23:40BE CONSIDERED, BUT THE ENTIRE
1:23:41PACKAGE OF PROPOSED CODE AND
1:23:43ADMINISTRATIVE RULES THAT WE'VE
1:23:44JUST HEARD IS DESIGNED TO
1:23:46PROTECT THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND
1:23:47ALLOW THE CITY TO ACTIVELY
1:23:49MANAGE THIS CHANGE. WE'VE ALSO
1:23:51INTEGRATED EVALUATION AND
1:23:52REVIEW TO OUR PROPOSED
1:23:53REGULATIONS, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT
1:23:55POLICIES MAY NEED TO CHANGE AS
1:23:57THIS QUICKLY EVOLVING INDUSTRY
1:23:59CHANGES, AND WE SEE MORE ABOUT
1:24:00THE IMPACTS ON OUR STREETS. AND
1:24:02THEN FINALLY, OF COURSE, NONE
1:24:03OF US CAN KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN
1:24:05IN 2020 STATE LEGISLATIVE
1:24:06SESSION AROUND THIS TOPIC. WE
1:24:08HAVE SOME HOPE THAT A LOCAL
1:24:10REGULATORY PACKAGE MAY HELP TO
1:24:11REDUCE PRESSURE TO MOVE FORWARD
1:24:13WITH STATE PREEMPTORY
1:24:15PREEMPTORY. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO
1:24:16SAY THAT WORD LEGISLATION. AND
1:24:18THEN BEFORE WE DIVE INTO
1:24:20DISCUSSION JUST BRIEFLY, AS AS
1:24:22WAS ALREADY SAID, THE CURRENT
1:24:24PLAN IS THAT WE WOULD RETURN TO
1:24:25THIS COMMITTEE IN TWO WEEKS
1:24:27WITH AN ORDINANCE WITH SPECIFIC
1:24:29CODE. AND IN THE ORDINANCE
1:24:33COULD ACTUALLY ALSO OFFER SORT
1:24:35OF DIRECTION ON THE
1:24:36ADMINISTRATIVE RULES. AND THEN
1:24:38AND I BELIEVE DEREK BRADLEY IS
1:24:39IN THE ROOM. WE'RE CONTINUING
1:24:41TO COORDINATE REALLY CLOSELY
1:24:42WITH THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT
1:24:43RELATIONS AND OTHER PARTNERS
1:24:46AROUND THE STATE AS WE GET
1:24:47READY FOR THE STATE SESSION.
1:24:48AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TODAY.
1:24:50AND WELCOME QUESTIONS.
1:24:51>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, SHOSHANA,
1:24:53HANNAH AND JACOB. THAT WAS AN
1:24:55EXCELLENT OVERVIEW. I'M VERY
1:24:58IMPRESSED BY THE RESEARCH THAT
1:24:59YOU'VE DONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
1:25:01ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT
1:25:02INTO THIS. I KNOW THAT WE'VE
1:25:04BEEN PUSHING YOU PRETTY HARD TO
1:25:05GET THIS DONE, BECAUSE I WAS
1:25:07REALLY HOPING THAT WE COULD DO
1:25:08THIS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR,
1:25:10OR AT LEAST BEFORE THE STATE
1:25:12LEGISLATURE MEETS. SO I
1:25:13APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT
1:25:14YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS. IT'S
1:25:15REALLY TERRIFIC. SO I KNOW WE
1:25:19HAVE ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR FOR
1:25:20DISCUSSION OF THIS, AND I KNOW
1:25:23THAT YOU'VE ALSO MET WITH SOME
1:25:25OF THE MY COLLEAGUES
1:25:27INDIVIDUALLY AND GOTTEN THEIR
1:25:29FEEDBACK, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL
1:25:30CONTINUE TO DO THAT BEFORE WE
1:25:32FINALLY DRAFT SOMETHING. BUT
1:25:34LET ME FIRST TURN IT OVER TO MY
1:25:36VICE CHAIR, COUNCILOR SMITH.
1:25:38>> THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN CLARK.
1:25:40THANK YOU ALL FOR THE
1:25:41PRESENTATION, AND I'LL GET
1:25:43RIGHT TO IT. WHAT PROTECTIONS
1:25:45OR TRANSITION OPPORTUNITIES
1:25:47COULD BE AVAILABLE FOR WORKERS
1:25:49DISPLACED BY THIS NEW
1:25:50TECHNOLOGY?
1:25:54>> YEAH, THANKS, COUNCILOR
1:25:57SMITH. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
1:25:59PRIMARY THINGS THAT WE'RE
1:26:00THINKING ABOUT IN THIS PROPOSAL
1:26:01IS THAT DRIVER SUPPORT FEE AND
1:26:04USING THAT FEE IN ORDER TO
1:26:06INVEST IN RESOURCES THAT COULD
1:26:08SUPPORT DRIVER ACTIVITIES, THAT
1:26:10COULD BE RETRAINING, THAT COULD
1:26:13BE SCHOLARSHIPS, THAT COULD BE
1:26:15OTHER SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT. I
1:26:17MEAN, THERE'S A VARIETY OF, OF
1:26:18DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE
1:26:20COULD LOOK TO STAND UP. THIS IS,
1:26:23I THINK, SOMETHING WE'D BE
1:26:24LOOKING VERY CLOSELY TO YOU ALL
1:26:26TO GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE AND
1:26:28SOME DIRECTION ON JUST AS YOU
1:26:29GAVE US GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION
1:26:30ON THE DRIVER RESOURCE CENTER.
1:26:32THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS PUN
1:26:34INTENDED VERY MUCH OUTSIDE OF
1:26:35OUR LANE AS A TRANSPORTATION
1:26:38AGENCY, AND WE'D BE LOOKING TO
1:26:39YOU TO HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW
1:26:41TO BEST PROGRAM THOSE RESOURCES.
1:26:44IT IS ALSO THE KIND OF THING WE
1:26:46COULD GO OUT TO RFP WITH A
1:26:48VARIETY OF DIFFERENT POTENTIAL
1:26:50PROVIDERS IN ORDER TO DELIVER
1:26:52THOSE RESOURCES. WE'VE STARTED
1:26:54SOME KIND OF PRELIMINARY
1:26:56MODELING AND FORECASTING ON
1:26:57WHAT THOSE FEES COULD BE, AND
1:26:59HOW MUCH REVENUE THEY MIGHT BE
1:27:00ABLE TO GENERATE ON AN ANNUAL
1:27:02BASIS. WE HAVE SOME LOW
1:27:03CONFIDENCE ESTIMATES THAT WE
1:27:04COULD TALK ABOUT. IF YOU'VE GOT
1:27:05MORE QUESTIONS.
1:27:06>> INTO THE INTERIM. PBOT
1:27:08DIRECTOR, I APPRECIATE THAT,
1:27:10BUT HAVE YOU ALL EVALUATED THE
1:27:13POTENTIAL ECONOMIC IMPACT ON
1:27:16PORTLAND RESIDENTS WHO
1:27:17CURRENTLY WORK AS A RIDESHARE,
1:27:19TAXI OR PROFESSIONAL DRIVER?
1:27:21BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED THAT
1:27:24WE'RE GOING TO PUT A LOT OF
1:27:26FOLKS OUT OF WORK IN THIS
1:27:28TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY.
1:27:30>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
1:27:31AND I I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE
1:27:34DIRECTING THAT TO THE INTERIM
1:27:36DIRECTOR WHO IS IN THE ROOM.
1:27:38ALTHOUGH STILL GETTING UP TO
1:27:39SPEED ON THIS. SO IF IT'S OKAY,
1:27:40I'LL I'LL ANSWER YES. I, WELL,
1:27:44I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE OF THE
1:27:46OTHER THINGS IS REALLY THE
1:27:48LIMIT ON, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
1:27:50PROPOSING A VERY SMALL FLEET
1:27:51SIZE AND THAT COULD STAY VERY
1:27:52SMALL. AND, YOU KNOW,
1:27:55FUNDAMENTALLY, YES, THIS CARS
1:27:57WITHOUT DRIVERS WILL REPLACE
1:27:58CARS WITH DRIVERS THAT WILL
1:28:00HAVE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT. I
1:28:03THINK THE THE REASON TO BRING
1:28:06THIS IS NOT TO REPLACE DRIVERS.
1:28:08OBVIOUSLY, IT IS BECAUSE IT IS
1:28:11IT MAY BE COMING. AND SO HOW
1:28:13CAN WE SET UP AS THOUGHTFULLY
1:28:15AS POSSIBLE. BUT THERE'S NO WAY
1:28:16AROUND A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC
1:28:17IMPACT TO DRIVERS WHO ARE
1:28:19REPLACED. AND AS A AS AS JACOB
1:28:22SAID, TO SOME DEGREE, SOME OF
1:28:23THAT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR POLICY
1:28:25LANE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO
1:28:26PROPOSE THOUGHTFUL REGULATIONS
1:28:28WITHIN THAT CONTEXT. BUT YES,
1:28:31THE.
1:28:31>> CITY OF PORTLAND DOES HAVE A
1:28:32POLICY LANE TO MAKE SURE THAT
1:28:35CERTAIN INDUSTRIES AND
1:28:37INDUSTRIES IN THE CITY ARE NOT
1:28:39IMPACTED BY THE POLICIES THAT
1:28:41WE CREATE. AND FOR, YOU KNOW,
1:28:43I'LL TELL YOU A COUPLE OF
1:28:44THINGS. AND THIS IS JUST MY
1:28:45BIAS. I'M I AM CONCERNED ABOUT
1:28:47THE SAFETY ISSUES. I'M
1:28:49CONCERNED THAT THE ELDERLY WHO
1:28:52WHO NEED TRANSPORTATION, THAT
1:28:53THEY WILL NOT GET THAT EXTRA
1:28:55PUSH IN AN ICE STORM OF DON'T
1:28:57WALK ON THIS SIDEWALK, OR I CAN
1:28:59TRY TO GET YOU CLOSER AND YOU
1:29:01CAN ACTUALLY IDENTIFY POTENTIAL
1:29:03PROBLEMS FOR, FOR RIDERS WHO,
1:29:06WHO MAY USE THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY,
1:29:09BUT I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT
1:29:11THAT. I'M CONCERNED THAT, YOU
1:29:13KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE
1:29:16SOME SORT OF TAX TO DO A
1:29:18DRIVER'S EDUCATION PIECE, BUT
1:29:20THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH BECAUSE
1:29:22PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LOSING
1:29:23THEIR JOBS. AND I THINK IT'S
1:29:26GOING TO THIS WILL HAVE SOME
1:29:28SORT OF IMPACT. AND ELON MUSK
1:29:30PUT OUT A THERE WERE THERE'S A
1:29:34WHOLE FLEET OF NEW AUTONOMOUS
1:29:36DRIVERS. AND HE'S YOU KNOW,
1:29:38THESE FOLKS CAN WORK BECAUSE
1:29:39YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE LIMITS.
1:29:43THESE THESE THIS TECHNOLOGY
1:29:45ALLOWS THE CARS TO BE USED 24
1:29:47HOURS A DAY. SO IF YOU'RE A
1:29:50HUMAN, YOU CANNOT COMPETE WITH
1:29:52THAT KIND OF, OF WORK PRODUCT.
1:29:56SO I, I WOULD LIKE US TO AT
1:29:58LEAST BE A LITTLE, I MEAN, I'M,
1:30:01I WAS LISTENING TO YOUR
1:30:02PRESENTATIONS, BUT IT DIDN'T
1:30:03SEEM LIKE YOU ALL REALLY CARED
1:30:05ABOUT THAT TO ME.
1:30:10>> YEAH. I GUESS THANK YOU FOR
1:30:12THAT FEEDBACK. YEAH, WE, WE ARE
1:30:14VERY MUCH AWARE OF AND DON'T
1:30:16DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THOSE
1:30:17THINGS.
1:30:18>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SMITH.
1:30:19I THINK WE ALL HAVE THOSE
1:30:20CONCERNS. I THINK, THOUGH, IF
1:30:22WE DON'T DO SOMETHING AND WE'RE
1:30:23PREEMPTED BY THE STATE, THEN
1:30:24THOSE DRIVERS ARE SOL ANYWAY.
1:30:26YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE'RE
1:30:28TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON IT SO
1:30:29THAT WE MIGHT PROVIDE SOME
1:30:31PROTECTION AND SOME RESOURCES
1:30:32FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT MAY BE
1:30:34DISPLACED. SO THAT'S PART OF
1:30:35THE GOAL HERE. COUNCILOR. ARE
1:30:38YOU DONE? COUNCILOR KOYAMA LANE.
1:30:41>> THANK YOU, CHAIR THANK YOU,
1:30:43VICE CHAIR, FOR THAT. I DO WANT
1:30:45TO SAY I SEE THAT ALL OF YOU
1:30:47ARE DOING YOUR JOBS, AND YOU'RE
1:30:50APPROACHING THIS THOUGHTFULLY,
1:30:51AND YOU'RE TRYING REALLY HARD
1:30:52TO DO THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND
1:30:54THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT
1:30:55BEING PREEMPTED AT THE STATE.
1:30:58WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO LIKE
1:30:59RESTART POLICY TIMELINE IF NEW
1:31:01COUNCILORS ARE TAKING POSITIONS
1:31:03IN JANUARY. AND I ALSO AM MORE
1:31:07ALIGNED WITH VICE CHAIR SMITH
1:31:11IN CONCERNS AROUND SAFETY
1:31:13SURVEILLANCE. I'M ALSO OPENING
1:31:15OUR ROADS TO BILLIONAIRES. I'M
1:31:17WORRIED ABOUT. RATHER THAN
1:31:20LETTING SOME LITTLE BIT IN AND
1:31:23SEEING WHAT HAPPENS, I'M
1:31:24WORRIED ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
1:31:25AND, AND I, I AM MORE WANTING
1:31:28TO START WITH NO AND THEN SEE
1:31:30WHAT HAPPENS AND THEN GO FROM
1:31:33THERE. I DO HAVE A COUPLE
1:31:36QUESTIONS. LIKE ONE IS THIS IS
1:31:40CONNECTED TO POLICY CONCEPT
1:31:41FOUR I'M WONDERING IF YOU ALL
1:31:43CAN SPEAK TO HOW THE CITY WOULD
1:31:46PLAN TO ADDRESS IN REAL TIME
1:31:48ISSUES LIKE AVS BLOCKING AN
1:31:50EMERGENCY VEHICLE FROM
1:31:51ACCESSING SOMEONE IN DISTRESS.
1:31:56>> THANKS, COUNCILOR KOYAMA
1:31:57LANE, AND APPRECIATE YOUR
1:31:59OPENING COMMENT ABOUT US BEING
1:32:00THOUGHTFUL AND WORKING HARD TO
1:32:02DO OUR JOBS. YOU KNOW, I THINK
1:32:04THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE HAVE
1:32:07KIND OF WITHIN THE AGENCY, A
1:32:08BUNCH OF REGULATORY ENFORCEMENT
1:32:10STAFF THAT ARE ON A REGULAR
1:32:12BASIS, TAKING TAXI RIDES,
1:32:15TAKING UBER AND LYFT RIDES,
1:32:16GOING OUT TO THE AIRPORT,
1:32:18MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE
1:32:20PERMITTED, MAKING SURE THAT THE
1:32:21VEHICLES DON'T HAVE SUBSTANTIAL
1:32:23WEAR AND TEAR OR DAMAGE TO THEM.
1:32:25AND SO WE WOULD PROBABLY BE
1:32:27USING SOME OF THOSE REGULATORY
1:32:28ENFORCEMENT SPECIALISTS TO BE
1:32:30OUT MONITORING THESE KINDS OF
1:32:32THINGS. WE NEED TO HAVE FURTHER
1:32:36DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY
1:32:37ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ABOUT HOW WE
1:32:38CAN BUILD CASES TO TAKE
1:32:42POTENTIAL REGULATORY ACTION.
1:32:43ONE THING THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM
1:32:45OUR COLLEAGUES IN CALIFORNIA,
1:32:47AS WELL AS TEXAS, IS THAT
1:32:49SOCIAL MEDIA IS OFTEN THE PLACE
1:32:50YOU HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THESE
1:32:52INCIDENTS FIRST. AND SO I THINK
1:32:54ONE THING WE'RE VERY INTERESTED
1:32:55IN IS HOW MIGHT WE USE SOME OF
1:32:57THAT INFORMATION AS PART OF
1:33:00DEVELOPING A POTENTIAL
1:33:01VIOLATION OR A CODE OR A
1:33:03PACKAGE THAT WE COULD THEN TAKE
1:33:05ACTION ON? AND SO WE HAVE SOME
1:33:07MORE WORK TO DO THERE. BUT
1:33:08THAT'S KIND OF PRELIMINARY HOW
1:33:09WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS. YOU
1:33:11KNOW, WHEN THE CITY OF PORTLAND
1:33:13FIRST HAD E-SCOOTERS ARRIVE IN
1:33:15OUR CITY, IT WASN'T BECAUSE WE
1:33:17WANTED THEM OR INVITED THEM. IT
1:33:19WAS BECAUSE WE ALSO FOUND OUT
1:33:20THAT COMPANIES WERE COMING AND
1:33:21GETTING READY TO DEPLOY THEM.
1:33:23AND WE KIND OF DEVELOPED A VERY
1:33:25SIMILAR APPROACH, TOOK A POLICY,
1:33:27CREATED A POLICY FRAMEWORK,
1:33:29TOLD THE COMPANIES THEY HAD TO
1:33:30WAIT, TOLD THE COMPANIES THAT
1:33:31THEY HAD TO COME AND PLAY BY
1:33:33THE RULE. AND THEN WE HAD STAFF
1:33:34WORKING ON THIS ON A DAILY
1:33:36BASIS AND PICKING UP THE PHONE
1:33:37AND SOLVING SOME OF THOSE
1:33:39PROBLEMS. WE'D BE TAKING A VERY
1:33:40SIMILAR APPROACH HERE. IT WOULD
1:33:41BE VERY HANDS ON FOR PROBABLY
1:33:43THE FIRST YEAR OR MORE. THE
1:33:45FIRST FEW YEARS.
1:33:48>> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION
1:33:49ABOUT FEES PER TRIP FEES, OR IF
1:33:52WE'RE GOING TO DO PER MILE FEES.
1:33:54AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S
1:33:55BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION ABOUT
1:33:57HAVING HIGHER FEES FOR CERTAIN
1:33:59VEHICLES THAT ARE MAYBE TALLER
1:34:01OR HEAVIER, LOWER PRICE FOR
1:34:03ONES THAT ARE SHORTER, LIGHTER
1:34:05VEHICLES. AND WE KNOW THAT
1:34:06SMALLER, LIGHTER VEHICLES ARE
1:34:09SAFER. AND JUST WONDERING IF
1:34:11THERE'S BEEN ANY CONVERSATION
1:34:12AROUND THAT, THAT YOU ALL WANT
1:34:13TO SHARE.
1:34:14>> YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL GOOD
1:34:17QUESTIONS. AND I THINK SOME
1:34:18INITIAL THOUGHTS, THOSE ARE
1:34:19THINGS THAT COULD ABSOLUTELY BE
1:34:22CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, AGAIN,
1:34:23MIGHT MAKE SENSE ACROSS THE
1:34:24PRIVATE FOR HIRE INDUSTRY, BUT
1:34:26ABSOLUTELY COULD BE CONSIDERED.
1:34:28>> AND HAS THERE BEEN ANY
1:34:30COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT RELATED TO
1:34:31THE RECOMMENDATIONS? AND WHAT
1:34:33WHAT HAS THAT BEEN LIKE? AND
1:34:35CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT?
1:34:36YEAH.
1:34:37>> WELL, YEAH, I THINK IT'S
1:34:39FAIR TO SAY WE'VE BEEN DOING
1:34:41ENGAGEMENT THIS WHOLE YEAR,
1:34:43MAYBE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS. AND,
1:34:44YOU KNOW, WE DID SORT OF THE
1:34:46WENT THROUGH THE OFFICIAL
1:34:48ADMINISTRATIVE RULE ENGAGEMENT
1:34:49PROCESS, HAD A PUBLIC HEARING,
1:34:51PUT THE RULES OUT FAR AND WIDE,
1:34:54MET WITH INDIVIDUAL GROUPS.
1:34:56WE'VE CONTINUED TO DO SORT OF
1:34:59ONGOING STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.
1:35:01WE'VE MET, YOU KNOW, JUST IN
1:35:02THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE
1:35:03MET WITH SOME OF THE REGULAR
1:35:06TRANSPORTATION ADVOCACY GROUPS
1:35:07AND OTHER OTHER GROUPS LIKE
1:35:08DISABILITY RIGHTS OREGON, AND
1:35:10FOLKS SORT OF CONTINUING TO TRY
1:35:12TO TAKE PEOPLE'S TEMPERATURE
1:35:14AND CONTINUE TO HEAR LOTS AND
1:35:17LOTS OF RESERVATIONS, AND ALSO
1:35:20CONCERN ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN
1:35:21IF IT WERE TO BE DONE IN THE
1:35:23STATE LEVEL. SO I THINK WE'RE
1:35:25WE CONTINUE TO HEAR SIMILAR
1:35:26THINGS, I THINK. BUT YEAH, I
1:35:28DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU ALL
1:35:29WANT TO SAY.
1:35:30>> AND MAYBE JUST TO UNDERLINE
1:35:31A SPECIFIC PIECE OF ENGAGEMENT,
1:35:32YOU KNOW, WE ALSO WORKING ON
1:35:34BROADER PRIVATE FOR HIRE ISSUES,
1:35:36INCLUDING UBER AND LYFT ISSUES.
1:35:37WE MEET REGULARLY WITH THE
1:35:39OREGON DRIVERS UNION AND THEIR
1:35:41REPRESENTATIVES. WE'VE GOT A
1:35:42STANDING MONTHLY MEETING. AND
1:35:44THIS IS A TOPIC THAT WE DISCUSS
1:35:46OFTEN AND HAVE, I THINK IN THE
1:35:48LAST TWO MONTHS, HAVE PROBABLY
1:35:49DISCUSSED IT 2 OR 3 TIMES,
1:35:52INCLUDING AN HOUR AND A HALF
1:35:53SESSION A WEEK AND A HALF AGO.
1:35:56SO I THINK IN MANY WAYS, WE
1:35:59KNOW SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. I
1:36:02THINK SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS
1:36:03ARE DEFINITELY SHARED. AND AS
1:36:05CHAIR CLARK SAID, I THINK WE'RE
1:36:08TRYING TO PUT FORWARD WHAT WE
1:36:10CONSIDER TO BE KIND OF A
1:36:12NATIONALLY LEADING FRAMEWORK
1:36:14THAT IS GOING TO HOPEFULLY
1:36:16SOLVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE
1:36:18PROBLEMS. IT MIGHT NOT BE
1:36:20PERFECT, BUT IT MIGHT BE REALLY
1:36:21GOOD.
1:36:22>> AND MAYBE JUST THE LAST
1:36:23THING ON THAT POINT, JUST AGAIN,
1:36:25WE'VE MET WITH SOME PEOPLE IN
1:36:27THE LAST WEEK OR SO AND HAVE
1:36:28HAVE HEARD SOME ADDITIONAL
1:36:30SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH
1:36:31HAVEN'T YET BE BEEN
1:36:33INCORPORATED, BUT ABSOLUTELY
1:36:34COULD BE. SO WE'RE STILL THIS
1:36:36IS SORT OF, I THINK IF THIS
1:36:38KEEPS MOVING, WHICH MAYBE IT
1:36:39WILL NOT. BUT IF IT DOES FEEL
1:36:41LIKE IT'S SORT OF A CONTINUOUS
1:36:43CONVERSATION AND KNOW THERE'S
1:36:44SOME OTHER SPECIFIC PROPOSALS
1:36:46OUT THERE AS WELL.
1:36:47>> I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE
1:36:48COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY
1:36:49ENGAGEMENT AND THAT YOU ALL ARE
1:36:50OPEN AND ARE CONTINUING TO DO
1:36:52THAT. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
1:36:55AND FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT'S
1:36:58UNCLEAR IF THERE'S IF THIS
1:37:00MOVING FORWARD, IF AVS WOULD
1:37:03BENEFIT VISION ZERO, PORTLAND
1:37:05VALUES, AGE FRIENDLY VALUES.
1:37:06I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT YOU
1:37:07ALL ARE ARE SAYING HERE, BUT
1:37:10WHAT I'M WHERE I'M AT IS THAT
1:37:12EVEN IF WE HAVE STRONG POLICIES
1:37:13IN PLACE, I'M WORRIED ABOUT
1:37:15INTRODUCING UNTESTED TECHNOLOGY
1:37:17ONTO OUR ROADS THAT ARE GOING
1:37:19TO MIX WITH PEDESTRIANS,
1:37:20CYCLISTS AND DRIVERS. I KEEP
1:37:22HEARING FROM CONSTITUENTS THAT
1:37:23THEY ARE WORRIED WHEN THEY SEE
1:37:25THE DIFFERENT WAYMO'S AROUND. I
1:37:27FEEL THE SAME WAY. THEY JUST
1:37:28FEEL CREEPY WHEN I SEE THEM.
1:37:31AND I WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE A
1:37:33FRANK CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT
1:37:34IT LOOKS LIKE TO REALLY JUST
1:37:36SAY NO TO AVS IN PORTLAND. I'LL
1:37:38LEAVE IT THERE FOR NOW.
1:37:40>> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR KOYAMA
1:37:41LANE. I SEEM TO RECALL THAT ONE
1:37:44OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
1:37:46YOU HEARD IN YOUR OUTREACH THAT
1:37:48WAS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST WAS
1:37:49SAFETY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS SORT
1:37:51OF THE UNIVERSAL CONCERN WAS
1:37:52SAFETY. THANKS FOR THOSE
1:37:54QUESTIONS. EXCELLENT. COUNCILOR.
1:37:55KANAL.
1:37:57>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CLARK
1:37:58THANKS, EVERYBODY FOR BEING
1:37:59HERE. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR
1:38:00WORK. I'M OBVIOUSLY A CRITIC OF
1:38:02THIS INDUSTRY AND THIS PROPOSAL.
1:38:04I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I THINK
1:38:06THAT THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE
1:38:08IS WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO,
1:38:09AND THAT YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB
1:38:11OF IT. AND NOTHING I SAY GOING
1:38:13FORWARD IS, IS A CRITICISM OF
1:38:14EITHER YOU OR YOUR WORK. AND
1:38:16ALL MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
1:38:17ARE FOR THE THREE PEOPLE UP
1:38:18HERE. JUST TO BE CLEAR, ONE
1:38:20QUICK QUESTION BEFORE I START
1:38:21THE GUIDANCE TO STAFF THAT THIS
1:38:23ENTIRE PROJECT SORT OF STARTED
1:38:24FROM IN TERMS OF LIKE
1:38:25AUTHORIZATION TO PURSUE THIS IS
1:38:26THE RESOLUTION IN 2017, RIGHT?
1:38:29THIS ALL KIND OF STEMS FROM
1:38:30THAT 2017 RESOLUTION.
1:38:33>> WE HAD A STANDING
1:38:35ADMINISTRATIVE RULE. SO I THINK
1:38:36WE, WHEN WE HEARD THAT AVS WERE
1:38:39BECOMING ACTIVE AGAIN IN OREGON,
1:38:41WE KNEW THAT THAT RULE NEEDED
1:38:43TO BE NEEDED TO BE UPDATED. IT
1:38:46WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD OR
1:38:47SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT THAT
1:38:49POINT. AND, AND SINCE IT WAS ON
1:38:51THE BOOKS AS A TESTING PERMIT,
1:38:53WE NEEDED TO SORT OF START
1:38:55THERE AND LOOK AT WHAT WE
1:38:57NEEDED TO DO.
1:39:00>> YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S
1:39:01CORRECT. AS SHOSHANA WAS SAYING,
1:39:03YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN EXISTING
1:39:05ADMINISTRATIVE RULE ON THE
1:39:06BOOKS. THAT ADMINISTRATIVE RULE
1:39:07ON THE BOOKS IS UNDERGIRDED BY
1:39:09THAT RESOLUTION. THE SMART
1:39:11AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE INITIATIVE
1:39:12RESOLUTION FROM 2017. AND I
1:39:15THINK THE THE SAVVY RESOLUTION
1:39:19IS UNDERGIRDED BY OUR BROADER
1:39:21KIND OF CHARTER AND THE
1:39:23AUTHORITIES THAT ARE GRANTED TO
1:39:24US AS A AS THE STEWARD OF THE
1:39:26RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH WE USE TO
1:39:28THEN REGULATE IN THIS INSTANCE,
1:39:29NOT JUST PROPOSE AUTOMATED
1:39:31VEHICLES, BUT ALSO SHUTTLES AND
1:39:33TAXIS AND LIMOUSINES.
1:39:35>> YEAH. I WAS MOSTLY REFERRING
1:39:36NOT TO THE AUTHORIZATION TO
1:39:37COME UP WITH IDEAS, BUT THE
1:39:39SORT OF DIRECTIONAL ELEMENT OF
1:39:40IT THERE, BECAUSE I PERSONALLY,
1:39:43RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THE
1:39:44CHAIR IN SAYING IT'S IMPORTANT
1:39:46THAT WE SEND A SIGNAL TO THE
1:39:48STATE LEGISLATURE THAT WE'RE
1:39:49INVESTED IN ENSURING THE SAFE
1:39:50OPERATION OF THESE VEHICLES IN
1:39:51THE CITY. I'M INTERESTED IN
1:39:54ENSURING THE SAFE OPERATIONS OF
1:39:56VEHICLES, BUT NOT THESE
1:39:57VEHICLES. I AGREE WITH THE IDEA
1:40:00THAT IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING,
1:40:01THERE'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE
1:40:03STATE WILL DO THEIR THING.
1:40:04THAT'S TRUE. I THINK WE SHOULD
1:40:05JUST BAN IT. THAT'S DOING
1:40:07SOMETHING. AND I WILL
1:40:08PERSONALLY COMMIT TO SPENDING
1:40:09TIME IN SALEM TO TO HELP WITH
1:40:10THAT. TO THE DEGREE THAT IT IS,
1:40:12IT IS HELPFUL. YOU KNOW, WE'VE
1:40:14HEARD SEVERAL TIMES THINGS LIKE
1:40:15WE'VE HEARD OR CITATIONS ON
1:40:17SAFETY FROM INDUSTRY FUNDED
1:40:19STUDIES I'VE STILL NOT SEEN AND
1:40:21I'VE ASKED AND IF ANYONE
1:40:22WATCHING THIS WOULD LOVE TO
1:40:23EMAIL IT TO ME, I WOULD LOVE A,
1:40:25A, A STUDY THAT IS PROVEN TO
1:40:27NOT BE INDUSTRY FUNDED THAT
1:40:28ACTUALLY SHOWS ANYTHING ABOUT
1:40:31SAFETY IN THE IN THE LONG TERM,
1:40:32AND NOT JUST THE PART WHERE
1:40:34THERE'S SOMEONE IN THE VEHICLE,
1:40:35BUT THE OVERALL, SINCE THESE
1:40:36VEHICLES ARE JUST CIRCLING THE
1:40:38CITIES THAT THEY'RE IN, EVEN
1:40:40WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE PASSENGERS.
1:40:43I FLOATED AN AMENDMENT TO
1:40:44REPLACE ALL PROPOSED TEXT WITH,
1:40:46QUOTE, ALL VEHICLES REQUIRE
1:40:47HUMAN DRIVER, END QUOTE. IT'S
1:40:49SIX WORDS LONG. EVERYONE CAN
1:40:50UNDERSTAND IT. TODAY I REALIZE
1:40:52WE MAY ALSO NEED TO ADD ONE
1:40:53OTHER THING TO THAT AMENDMENT,
1:40:55WHICH IS A REPEAL OF RESOLUTION
1:40:5837296, TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION
1:40:59THAT WE'RE GIVING TO STAFF ON
1:41:01THIS, AND SHOULD PROBABLY ALSO
1:41:03OVERRIDE THE ADMINISTRATIVE
1:41:04RULE THAT SHOSHANA JUST
1:41:06REFERENCED. I WANT TO
1:41:08ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE DRIVERS
1:41:08UNION HAS BEEN REACHING OUT.
1:41:10AND I, YOU KNOW, WE THEY'VE
1:41:12ASKED FOR HUMAN SAFETY
1:41:13OPERATORS. THIS PROVIDES NEEDED
1:41:15ACCESS AND ASSISTANCE TO PEOPLE
1:41:16WITH DISABILITIES. THAT IS AN
1:41:18IMPORTANT PART OF THIS
1:41:20CONVERSATION, REGARDLESS OF
1:41:21WHETHER THESE ARE AUTONOMOUS
1:41:22VEHICLES OR NOT. THAT IS ONE OF
1:41:23THE FUNCTIONS OF THE HUMAN
1:41:25OPERATOR OF A VEHICLE. THERE
1:41:27ARE COUNTLESS SAFETY SCENARIOS
1:41:28THAT A COMPUTER CANNOT NAVIGATE,
1:41:30AND A HUMAN SAFETY OPERATOR
1:41:31ENSURES ACCOUNTABILITY AND
1:41:33SAFETY. THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT
1:41:35MINNEAPOLIS PUT IN AS WELL. I
1:41:37WILL NOTE THAT BECAUSE THE
1:41:38MAYOR VETOED IT, THEIR MAYOR
1:41:39CAN'T VETO HERE, SO THERE'S
1:41:40SLIGHT DIFFERENCES THERE. BUT I
1:41:42DO THINK THAT IT IS SLIGHTLY
1:41:44LESS PREFERABLE THAN A BAN. BUT
1:41:45I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE THE
1:41:47TABLE. LOOKING AT THE POLICY
1:41:49CONCEPTS, I REALLY APPRECIATE
1:41:50THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE ON
1:41:51THE DEFINITION ONE, AS WELL AS
1:41:53ON THE CONCEPT OF US DRIVER'S
1:41:55LICENSES. I THINK THE NUMBERS
1:41:57OF SEVEN AND EIGHT GOT SWAPPED,
1:41:58SO I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE
1:42:00IT IS, BUT THE DRIVER'S LICENSE
1:42:01IS ONE. I HAVE NO CONCERN ABOUT
1:42:03THE IDEA OF SETTING FLEET CAPS
1:42:06AND AUTHORITY TO DO SO, BUT
1:42:08THEY'RE WAY TOO LAX WITH 100
1:42:09VEHICLES PER COMPANY, AND THEN
1:42:10ALLOWING THE MAYOR TO
1:42:12EFFECTIVELY WAIVE THEM AFTER
1:42:13TWO YEARS BY SETTING A LARGE
1:42:15FLEET CAP. I'M ALSO CONCERNED
1:42:16THAT THE CONCEPT OF IMPACT FEES
1:42:18CREATES A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE
1:42:20TO GIVE AWAY PORTLANDERS
1:42:21PRIVACY, AND SEEMS LIKE A CLEAR
1:42:23ATTEMPT TO GET THE SUPPORT OF
1:42:24THE DRIVERS UNION. BUT I WANT
1:42:26TO KNOW WE CAN FUND THE
1:42:27DRIVER'S RESOURCE CENTER
1:42:29WITHOUT THIS PARTICULAR SOURCE
1:42:30OF REVENUE. WE HAVE TO. I WISH
1:42:34WE'D DONE A TESTING PERMIT. THE
1:42:36CONCEPT THREE IS GREAT. I JUST
1:42:37WISH WE'D DONE IT IN 2017. I DO
1:42:40WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE TIME ON
1:42:41FIVE AND SIX, THE LOADING AND
1:42:43UNLOADING AND BICYCLE LANES
1:42:45PIECE TO ME IS A REALLY BIG
1:42:47CONCERN. I APPRECIATE THE NOTE
1:42:48HANNAH YOU RAISED ON THE OTHER
1:42:50OPTION, BUT I THINK THAT THE
1:42:51OTHER OPTION KIND OF PROVES WHY
1:42:52THIS IS A BAD IDEA. BECAUSE
1:42:54ALTHOUGH DISALLOWING, STOPPING
1:42:55AND BICYCLE LANES MIGHT HAVE
1:42:58NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON SAFETY AND
1:42:59MOBILITY, THAT'S ALSO KIND OF
1:43:01UPSIDE DOWN BECAUSE MOBILITY
1:43:02INCLUDES BICYCLES THAT ARE
1:43:05PREVENTED FROM NAVIGATING
1:43:07EFFECTIVELY. IF THERE'S AN
1:43:09AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE OR ANY
1:43:10VEHICLE IN A BIKE LANE. SAME
1:43:12THING FOR SAFETY, BUT I REALLY
1:43:15WANT TO SPEND TIME ON CONCEPT
1:43:16SIX, WHICH IS THE THING THAT
1:43:18PROVES WHY THIS CAN'T WORK. A
1:43:20REGULATORY STRUCTURE CANNOT
1:43:21WORK. THERE IS NO WAY TO HONOR
1:43:23THE, QUOTE, REASONABLE
1:43:24EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY THAT
1:43:26PORTLANDERS HAVE, END QUOTE,
1:43:27WITH 250 AT FIRST, AND
1:43:29EVENTUALLY AN UNLIMITED NUMBER
1:43:31OF ROLLING SURVEILLANCE
1:43:32VEHICLES ON THE GROUND. PAIR
1:43:34THIS WITH THE FORTHCOMING
1:43:35ADMINISTRATIVE PUSH TO ALLOW
1:43:36CAMERAS IN EVERY INCH OF OUR
1:43:37SKY WITH AMAZON'S DRONE
1:43:39FACILITY, AND WE'RE BUILDING A
1:43:40SURVEILLANCE STATE HERE EVEN
1:43:41FASTER THAN WASHINGTON DC IS.
1:43:44THE POLICY CONCEPT IS
1:43:46UNENFORCEABLE. THE ONLY WAY TO
1:43:47GUARANTEE NON-TRANSFER OF DATA
1:43:49IS TO NOT CREATE IT IN THE
1:43:50FIRST PLACE, AND WILL
1:43:51INEVITABLY RESULT IN BOTH
1:43:52PRIVATE COMPANIES USING IT AND
1:43:54TRANSFERS TO ICE AND OTHER
1:43:55MALIGN ACTORS. SPECIFICALLY,
1:43:57THE PROPOSAL IS TO PUT IT INTO
1:43:59ADMINISTRATIVE RULES, WHICH
1:44:00GIVES NO ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE
1:44:01PUBLIC FOR ANY CHANGES. THE
1:44:02IDEA THAT ADMINISTRATIVE RULES
1:44:04WILL BE CHANGED TO ALLOW
1:44:05UNFETTERED SURVEILLANCE IS
1:44:06ALREADY BEING ACKNOWLEDGED
1:44:08ALREADY. YOU KNOW, IT WAS
1:44:11ACKNOWLEDGED THAT, QUOTE, CITY
1:44:12CODE, AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, IS
1:44:13GENERALLY RESERVED FOR POLICIES
1:44:14THAT ARE BIGGER PICTURE AND
1:44:15MORE FOUNDATIONAL AND DURABLE,
1:44:17RATHER THAN KIND OF FINE
1:44:18GRAINED IMPLEMENTATION, THINGS
1:44:19THAT MIGHT NEED TO CHANGE IN
1:44:20THE FUTURE, SUCH AS
1:44:22ADMINISTRATIVE RULES. SO I JUST
1:44:24WANT TO PUT THIS OUT THERE THAT
1:44:26THE MAYOR WILL BE ABLE TO WAIVE
1:44:28THAT AT ANY POINT IN THE FUTURE
1:44:30AND ALLOW US TO HAVE UNFETTERED
1:44:33TRANSFER OF DATA. AND THE
1:44:36DRIVER'S UNION RAISED THIS
1:44:37ISSUE IN THEIR LETTER AS WELL.
1:44:38AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
1:44:41COUNCILOR SMITH, I AGREE
1:44:42COMPLETELY. THERE IS NOTHING IN
1:44:43HERE ON PROTECTING WORKERS. THE
1:44:45DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FEES THAT
1:44:46CAME FROM THAT MADE IT CLEAR
1:44:48THAT THAT THE IDEA FROM THE
1:44:49COMPANIES, NOT FROM STAFF, BUT
1:44:51FROM THE COMPANIES, IS TO
1:44:52PROMOTE LARGE SCALE WORKER
1:44:53DISPLACEMENT OF AN ENTIRE
1:44:54INDUSTRY. AND I'M PERSONALLY
1:44:56NOT INTERESTED IN ASSISTING IN
1:44:57THE UNEMPLOYMENT OF ANY
1:44:58WORKFORCE. AND I SHOULD NOTE,
1:45:00IT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT
1:45:01WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING A
1:45:02WORKFORCE THAT NATIONWIDE IS
1:45:04DISPROPORTIONATELY BLACK AND
1:45:04BROWN MEN. SO WITH ALL THAT
1:45:08SAID, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR
1:45:10ABOUT MY ASK. HERE. I AM
1:45:11BEGGING MY COLLEAGUES NOT TO TO
1:45:14ACTIVELY SUPPORT THE CREATION
1:45:15OF A DYSTOPIA IN OUR IN OUR
1:45:18CITY. BETWEEN THE DRONE
1:45:21CONVERSATION AND THIS, THOSE
1:45:23ARE BOTH REALLY IMPORTANT PARTS
1:45:25OF THAT. AND SO I ASK FOR
1:45:27SUPPORT IN CHANGING THE
1:45:29DIRECTION HERE TO PURSUING A
1:45:31BAN ON THESE VEHICLES OUTRIGHT.
1:45:33>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR, AND
1:45:34YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO
1:45:35OFFER AMENDMENTS ON THE
1:45:37POLICIES AS WELL. COUNCILOR
1:45:39GREEN.
1:45:40>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CLARK, I'M
1:45:43JUST GOING TO ECHO THE THREE OF
1:45:46MY COLLEAGUES WHO SPOKE BEFORE
1:45:47ME ALL HIT ON MY PRIMARY
1:45:48CONCERNS. I DO WANT TO TALK
1:45:50ABOUT THE I. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN
1:45:53VERY WELL ENGAGED WITH MY
1:45:54OFFICE. I THINK THAT YOU'RE
1:45:57BRINGING A DEEP DESIRE TO BUILD
1:46:01A POLICY, GIVEN THE GUIDANCE
1:46:03THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED AND WITHIN
1:46:05THE SORT OF CONTEXT OF TRYING
1:46:08TO AVOID A WORLD WHERE WE GET
1:46:09PREEMPTED AND THEN LOSE CONTROL
1:46:11OF THE SITUATION. SO I SO I
1:46:12WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I
1:46:14THINK THAT I HAVE A HIGHER RISK
1:46:17TOLERANCE FOR, FOR TAKING THAT
1:46:19FIGHT ON. LIKE, YOU KNOW, I
1:46:21THINK THE PERSON WHO CHAMPIONED
1:46:22THE BILL LAST TIME IS,
1:46:24REPRESENTS ME CITIES IN, IN
1:46:27WASHINGTON COUNTY. AND I'LL
1:46:28NOTE THAT WASHINGTON COUNTY HAS
1:46:30REVOLTED AGAINST AI DATA FARMS
1:46:33AND THE LIKE. AND SO I DON'T
1:46:35KNOW THAT THE POLITICAL
1:46:36APPETITE IS THERE TO CONTINUE
1:46:37TO, TO PURSUE THAT. AND SO
1:46:38WE'LL SEE HOW THAT FIGHT GOES.
1:46:40BUT THERE'S ONE THING I WANT TO
1:46:42UPLIFT THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY
1:46:43TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IS
1:46:45THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I ALSO SHARE
1:46:47SOME SKEPTICISM OF INDUSTRY
1:46:49FUNDED STUDIES, BUT IT'S
1:46:52PROBABLY TRUE THAT ON A PER
1:46:53TRIP BASIS IN ISOLATION, THESE
1:46:58THESE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE TRIPS
1:46:59ARE SAFER ON AVERAGE THAN, THAN
1:47:02OTHERS. BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY
1:47:03THE STAKES. THE STAKES ARE
1:47:05WHETHER WE ARE PRODUCING BETTER
1:47:08OR OR WORSE OUTCOMES IN TERMS
1:47:11OF SAFETY FOR THE SYSTEM AS A
1:47:12WHOLE. SO THIS IS A HOLISTIC
1:47:14GREATER THAN THE SUM OF ITS
1:47:15PARTS PROBLEM. AND WHAT YOU
1:47:16ALSO FIND IN THESE STUDIES IS,
1:47:19IS ROBOTAXIS OR AVS GENERATE
1:47:22INCREASED VMT. SO THAT'S
1:47:23VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED. AND
1:47:24THAT'S PARTICULARLY EXACERBATED
1:47:26IN SITUATIONS WHERE THERE'S NO
1:47:27PLACE TO PARK. AND BECAUSE THE
1:47:30CITY OF PORTLAND DOES DOESN'T
1:47:31HAVE THE APPETITE TO
1:47:33APPROPRIATELY PRICE ON STREET
1:47:35PARKING, TO DISINCENTIVIZE
1:47:37STORING A CAR BASICALLY FOR
1:47:39FREE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
1:47:42AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF
1:47:44PLACES DOWNTOWN IN PARTICULAR
1:47:45WHERE IT'S LIKE, THIS IS THIS
1:47:47IS VALET PARKING, THIS IS THIS
1:47:48IS LOADING AND UNLOADING JUST
1:47:50FOR TRUCKS. AND SO THERE'S,
1:47:51THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EXTRA
1:47:52SPACE TO JUST PULL OVER AND
1:47:54PARK FOR A BIT. YOU'RE GOING TO
1:47:56GET WAY MORE DEADHEADING AND A
1:47:57LOT MORE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.
1:47:58AND THAT MAY ACTUALLY RESULT IN
1:48:02INCREASING SAFETY RISKS FASTER
1:48:04THAN IT DOES THE SORT OF
1:48:06REDUCTION ON THE KIND OF LIKE
1:48:08DRIVER VERSUS ROBOT LENS. AND
1:48:10SO, LIKE, THIS IS A PROBLEM
1:48:12THAT CAN ONLY REALLY BE
1:48:13ASCERTAINED WITH MORE DATA. AND
1:48:14I WOULD SUGGEST THAT I'M NOT
1:48:17SURE THAT'S A RISK I WANT TO
1:48:19TAKE. I SUPPORT COUNCILOR KANAL
1:48:21SORT OF DIRECTION HERE. THIS IS
1:48:23THE ONLY PLACE WHERE WE CAN
1:48:24TALK ABOUT THAT MORE THAN 1 OR
1:48:262 PEOPLE AT A TIME. SO THAT'S
1:48:27THE APPETITE THAT I HAVE. BUT
1:48:29IF WE CAN'T IF WE CAN'T DO AN
1:48:31OUTRIGHT BAN, I THINK MY NEXT
1:48:34MY NEXT BEST OPTION IS THE
1:48:36HUMAN SAFETY OPERATOR. AND I
1:48:39FEEL LIKE IF IF YOU WANT IF YOU
1:48:42WANT AVS IN PORTLAND, BECAUSE
1:48:43YOU WANT TO HAVE EXPERIENCED
1:48:47THE SORT OF POTENTIAL THAT THEY
1:48:50ARE A SAFER TRIP FOR YOU, THAT
1:48:52SHOULD STILL BE TRUE WITH, WITH,
1:48:53WITH THE SAFETY OFFICER IN THE
1:48:55SEAT. AND SO IF WE HAVE TO GO
1:48:57SOME SORT OF DIRECTION, THAT'S
1:48:59LESS THAN A BAN. THAT'S THE
1:49:01DIRECTION I WANT TO GO. I ALSO
1:49:04I WANT TO LAUD YOUR FOCUS ON
1:49:08MINIMIZING THE TIME THAT'S IN
1:49:09THE BIKE LANES. I WANT TO
1:49:10EXTEND THAT TO, YOU KNOW, TO
1:49:12THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN PREVENT
1:49:14THEM FROM IDLING IN DAYLIGHT AT
1:49:16INTERSECTIONS TOO, BECAUSE
1:49:17THAT'S, I MEAN, THE BIGGEST
1:49:19THREAT TO PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. SO
1:49:20I'LL LEAVE IT THERE FOR NOW.
1:49:22THANKS.
1:49:23>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GREEN
1:49:25COLLEAGUES, WE'RE REALLY AT
1:49:27TIME. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME
1:49:29CONCLUDING REMARKS HERE AND
1:49:30THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK IF
1:49:32THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY.
1:49:33FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO
1:49:35THANK THE TEAM AGAIN FOR ALL
1:49:36THE WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO
1:49:38THIS, HOW RESPONSIVE YOU'VE
1:49:39BEEN TO EVERYONE, HOW YOU'VE
1:49:41TRIED TO TAKE INTO
1:49:44CONSIDERATION ALL THE THINGS
1:49:45THAT THE OTHER CITIES HAVE TOLD
1:49:47YOU ABOUT WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE
1:49:50PREEMPTED, AND YOU'VE TRIED TO
1:49:51DESIGN THE BEST PACKAGE THAT
1:49:52YOU POSSIBLY CAN TO PROTECT US.
1:49:56I THINK COUNCILOR KANAL COMMENT
1:49:57ABOUT DYSTOPIAN FUTURE I, I
1:49:59DON'T WANT THAT EITHER. I'M
1:50:01LET'S BE REALLY CLEAR THAT I'M
1:50:02NOT SUPPORTIVE OF WAYMO BEING
1:50:05HERE EITHER OR WHATEVER COMPANY,
1:50:09BUT I'M ALSO I'VE WORKED IN THE
1:50:11LEGISLATURE MOST OF MY CAREER
1:50:12AND FOUGHT PREEMPTION, AND I'M
1:50:14QUITE CONCERNED THAT WE WILL BE
1:50:17PREEMPTED. AND I FEEL LIKE THE
1:50:18CANARY IN THE COAL MINE
1:50:20SOMETIMES HERE. BUT WE HAVE 15
1:50:22OTHER CITIES TO LEARN FROM. AND
1:50:24IF WE COULD BE THE CITY THAT
1:50:26ACTUALLY DESIGNED SOMETHING
1:50:26THAT WORKED IN, PERFECT AS IT
1:50:29MAY BE, AND PREVENT THE STATE
1:50:32LEGISLATURE FROM TAKING AWAY
1:50:33OUR POWER, I THINK THAT'S THE
1:50:35DIRECTION WE COULD GO. BUT
1:50:37CLEARLY, I THINK I'M I COULD BE
1:50:40OUTVOTED HERE, BUT I'M GOING TO
1:50:41KEEP TRYING BECAUSE I THINK
1:50:43THAT IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT
1:50:46THE LEGISLATURE WON'T PREEMPT
1:50:48US, THEN YOU WIN. AND THAT'S
1:50:50GREAT. AND I THINK THAT'S SUPER.
1:50:51IF THEY DO, I THINK THAT YOU
1:50:53ALL OUGHT TO START WORKING ON
1:50:55GETTING A GOVERNOR'S VETO AFTER
1:50:56THE ELECTION, BECAUSE I THINK
1:50:58THE COMPOSITION OF THE
1:50:59LEGISLATURE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S
1:51:00CHANGING AND MAYBE GETTING
1:51:01BETTER, AND SOME PEOPLE'S
1:51:02OPINION, I THINK THAT WE WILL
1:51:04LOSE THIS DEBATE. SO WE NEED TO
1:51:06PREPARE FOR IT. AND I THOUGHT
1:51:07THIS WAS THE BEST WAY FOR US TO
1:51:09PREPARE FOR IT, TO DESIGN THE
1:51:11BEST PACKAGE WE COULD BASED ON
1:51:12WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE
1:51:14EXPERIENCED WHEN THEY'VE BEEN
1:51:15PREEMPTED AND DON'T GET ANY
1:51:17DATA, DON'T GET MONEY, THEY GET
1:51:19NOTHING. SO I WAS HOPING THAT
1:51:21WE COULD ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING
1:51:23OUT OF THIS, BUT IN ANY EVENT,
1:51:25WE WILL WE WILL CONTINUE THIS
1:51:27CONVERSATION. WE WILL DRAFT
1:51:29SOMETHING THAT IS THE BEST
1:51:30THING WE CAN DO. BRING THAT
1:51:32BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND WE'LL SEE
1:51:34HOW THE CHIPS FALL. SO THANK
1:51:36YOU EVERYBODY. THANKS FOR YOUR
1:51:37EXCELLENT COMMENTS. THE WORK
1:51:38THAT YOU DID ON GOING THROUGH
1:51:40ALL THE CONCEPTS. I REALLY
1:51:42APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. AND
1:51:43THANKS TO THE STAFF. SO LET'S
1:51:45TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK. WHY
1:51:48DON'T WE COME BACK HERE AT 1126?
2:05:51ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. SO
2:05:54LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET'S SEE.
2:05:57DIANA, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ
2:05:59THE NEXT ITEM?
2:06:01>> ITEM NUMBER THREE. DOCUMENT
2:06:03NUMBER 2026-364. AMEND
2:06:08TRANSPORTATION FEE SCHEDULE TO
2:06:10ESTABLISH AN EVENT PARKING RATE
2:06:12WITHIN THE LLOYD EVENT DISTRICT
2:06:15AND ZONE V PARKING PERMIT AREA.
2:06:19AMEND TRN3 .450.
2:06:24>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO
2:06:26COLLEAGUES, THIS LEGISLATION IS
2:06:28TO ADDRESS PARKING ISSUES IN
2:06:29THE LLOYD EVENT DISTRICT DURING
2:06:31EVENTS AT THE MODA CENTER. I
2:06:33THINK THEY'VE IMPACTED
2:06:35NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS AND
2:06:36THEIR ABILITY TO FIND THEIR OWN
2:06:37PARKING DURING PEAK EVENTS. IS
2:06:41THIS YOUR DISTRICT? COUNCILOR?
2:06:42IT IS YOUR DISTRICT. WITH THAT,
2:06:45LET ME JUST HAND THIS OFF TO
2:06:47PBOT STAFF. GLAD TO SEE YOU
2:06:48HERE. KRISTEN. ARE YOU ARE YOU
2:06:50HERE TO KICK IT OFF?
2:06:51>> I AM.
2:06:52>> FOR THE RECORD, I'M KRISTEN
2:06:54HALL, PBOT INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR
2:06:56PLANNING FOR PROGRAMS AND
2:06:58PROJECTS. I'M HERE WITH RALEIGH
2:06:59STARK, OUR PARKING DISTRICT
2:07:01PROJECT MANAGER. WE'RE HERE TO
2:07:03DISCUSS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND
2:07:04THE TRANSPORTATION FEE SCHEDULE
2:07:06TO ADJUST THE HOURLY RATE IN
2:07:08THE ZONE B PERMIT AREA IN THE
2:07:10ELLIOTT NEIGHBORHOOD. AS WE
2:07:12DIVE IN, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
2:07:14THE MANY PEOPLE AT PBOT WHO
2:07:15WORK ON PARKING DISTRICTS,
2:07:16INCLUDING OUR PARKING
2:07:17OPERATIONS TEAM, ESPECIALLY
2:07:18ERICA NEBEL AND KRISTEN ALDRIN.
2:07:20I THINK THEY'RE HERE IN THE
2:07:21BACK, AS WELL AS OUR METER SHOP
2:07:23AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT TEAM.
2:07:24IT'S TRULY A WHOLE BUREAU
2:07:26EFFORT TO MANAGE OUR PARKING
2:07:28SYSTEM. I ALSO WANT TO
2:07:30ACKNOWLEDGE THE TIMELINESS OF
2:07:31THIS ORDINANCE. THE RESIDENTS
2:07:32OF THE ZONE B PERMIT AREA ARE
2:07:34IMPACTED BY EVENTS THROUGHOUT
2:07:36THE YEAR, BUT BLAZER SEASON IS
2:07:38A PARTICULARLY BIG DEAL GIVEN
2:07:39THE SEASON IS KICKING OFF.
2:07:41WE'RE BRINGING THIS ORDINANCE
2:07:42FORWARD NOW, WHICH WOULD ALLOW
2:07:43US TO IMPLEMENT THE CHANGES AS
2:07:45SOON AS 30 DAYS AFTER APPROVAL
2:07:46BY CITY COUNCIL. NEXT SLIDE.
2:07:50THANK YOU. WE MANAGE ON STREET
2:07:52PARKING BECAUSE IT'S A LIMITED
2:07:54RESOURCE WHERE DEMAND FAR
2:07:56EXCEEDS SUPPLY IN MANY PARTS OF
2:07:57OUR CITY, WITHOUT MANAGEMENT
2:07:59THROUGH PRICING AND OTHER TOOLS,
2:08:01PARKING SPACES BECOME
2:08:02IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND, NEGATIVELY
2:08:05IMPACTING BUSINESSES, EMPLOYEES,
2:08:06AND RESIDENTS. PARKING
2:08:11MANAGEMENT HAS MANY BENEFITS.
2:08:13IT IMPROVES SAFETY IN LINE WITH
2:08:14OUR VISION ZERO GOALS, AND IT
2:08:16ENSURES THAT CUSTOMERS CAN SHOP
2:08:17AT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. AT ITS
2:08:20CORE, IT MATTERS BECAUSE IT
2:08:21REFLECTS WHAT PORTLANDERS WANT
2:08:23A VIBRANT CITY WITH THRIVING
2:08:24BUSINESSES, CONVENIENT ACCESS
2:08:26TO SERVICES, AND WALKABLE, SAFE
2:08:28NEIGHBORHOODS. ACHIEVING THAT
2:08:29VISION REQUIRES THOUGHTFUL
2:08:30PARKING MANAGEMENT, AND I
2:08:32STRESS THE WORD THOUGHTFUL HERE
2:08:34BECAUSE THE NEEDS OF DIFFERENT
2:08:35STAKEHOLDERS CAN BE IN CONFLICT.
2:08:37SUCCESSFULLY MANAGING PARKING
2:08:40REQUIRES THAT EVERYONE
2:08:41COMPROMISES A LITTLE BIT. SO
2:08:44HOW DO WE DO IT? WE MANAGE
2:08:46PARKING BASED ON THE LAND USE
2:08:48CONTEXT AND THE COMMUNITY'S
2:08:49GOALS FOR AN AREA. FOR EACH OF
2:08:50THESE CONTEXTS, WE USE OUR
2:08:52SUITE OF MANAGEMENT TOOLS,
2:08:53INCLUDING TIME LIMITS, PARKING
2:08:55PERMITS, AND PAID PARKING TO
2:08:56MANAGE THAT ON STREET PARKING
2:08:58SUPPLY, WE LOOK AT A COMMERCIAL
2:09:00MAIN STREET LIKE THE WEST END.
2:09:03WE MANAGE PARKING SO VISITORS
2:09:06ARE ABLE TO FIND A SPACE WHEN
2:09:08THEY WANT TO VISIT A RESTAURANT
2:09:10OR SHOP, AND WE TRY TO MAKE
2:09:11SURE EACH SPACE PARKING SPACE
2:09:14SEES MORE VISITORS PER DAY. WE
2:09:18MANAGE PARKING FOR
2:09:19NEIGHBORHOODS ADJACENT TO AN
2:09:20EMPLOYMENT OR EVENT CENTER,
2:09:21LIKE HERE IN THE ELLIOTT
2:09:22NEIGHBORHOOD, TO ENSURE THAT
2:09:25SPACE IS AVAILABLE FOR
2:09:26RESIDENTS DURING EVENTS. THAT
2:09:27MEANS THAT OUR RESIDENT
2:09:28RETURNING HOME FROM WORK, OR
2:09:30WHO NEEDS TO RUN TO THE GROCERY
2:09:31STORE DURING AN EVENT. AN EVENT
2:09:33CAN FIND A PLACE TO PARK, EVEN
2:09:35ON AN EVENT NIGHT. WE MANAGE
2:09:39PARKING IN DENSE RESIDENTIAL
2:09:40NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE SLABTOWN.
2:09:42WHEN PARKING IS MANAGED, WE CAN
2:09:44CONTINUE TO GROW, AND HOUSING
2:09:45CAN BE BUILT WITHOUT UNINTENDED
2:09:47CONSEQUENCES LIKE CONGESTION
2:09:49AND FULL ON STREET PARKING.
2:09:54PBOT HAS FIVE PARKING DISTRICTS,
2:09:56AND IN OUR MOST DENSE
2:09:58NEIGHBORHOODS, WE'RE ALSO
2:09:59WORKING WITH BUSINESSES AND
2:10:00RESIDENTS TO ESTABLISH A
2:10:01PARKING DISTRICT IN NORTH
2:10:03NORTHEAST PORTLAND, WHICH WILL
2:10:04BE READY FOR COUNCIL
2:10:05CONSIDERATION IN THE COMING
2:10:06MONTHS. IMPORTANTLY, IN THESE
2:10:08AREAS, IT IS NOT JUST
2:10:10DESIGNATING AN AREA PARKING
2:10:11DISTRICT. MORE IMPORTANTLY,
2:10:13IT'S A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PBOT
2:10:14AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MANAGE
2:10:16PARKING AND MAKE IT EASIER TO
2:10:17GET TO THESE AREAS WITHOUT
2:10:20DRIVING. STAKEHOLDERS IMPLEMENT
2:10:24PARKING MANAGEMENT TOOLS AS WE
2:10:26WORK WITH STAKEHOLDERS,
2:10:27IMPLEMENT PARKING MANAGEMENT
2:10:28TOOLS, AS WELL AS MAKING IT
2:10:29EASIER TO BIKE, WALK OR TAKE
2:10:31TRANSIT TO CREATE THE WALKABLE,
2:10:32THRIVING NEIGHBORHOODS AND
2:10:33BUSINESS DISTRICTS THAT
2:10:34PORTLANDERS WANT. SO WE'RE HERE
2:10:36TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THIS
2:10:37ORDINANCE TO INCREASE THE
2:10:38HOURLY PARKING RATES IN ONE
2:10:40PORTION OF THE ELLIOTT
2:10:42NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE IT OVERLAPS
2:10:43WITH THE ZONE V PERMIT PROGRAM.
2:10:45THE MECHANISM TO DO THAT IS AN
2:10:47AMENDMENT TO THE TRANSPORTATION
2:10:48FEE SCHEDULE. BY ADDING A NEW
2:10:49LINE ITEM, I'M GOING TO PASS IT
2:10:51TO RALLY. TO GET INTO THE
2:10:52SPECIFICS OF THE PROPOSAL.
2:10:54>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING,
2:10:57COUNCILORS.
2:10:57>> FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS
2:10:59REILLY STARK AND I'M THE
2:11:00PARKING DISTRICT PROJECT
2:11:01MANAGER WITHIN THE
2:11:03TRANSPORTATION PLANNING SECTION.
2:11:05AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
2:11:06ELLIOTT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE
2:11:07PAST THREE YEARS ON THEIR
2:11:08PARKING ISSUES. SO TO FRAME
2:11:12WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY,
2:11:14THIS IS THE LLOYD EVENT
2:11:16DISTRICT. IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN
2:11:182022 TO BETTER MANAGE PARKING
2:11:19DURING LARGE EVENTS AT THE MODA
2:11:21CENTER. SO WHEN THERE'S A LARGE
2:11:23EVENT OR A COMBINATION OF
2:11:24EVENTS WITH 10,000 OR MORE
2:11:27ATTENDEES, THE DISTRICT IS
2:11:29ACTIVATED AND YOU MUST PAY TO
2:11:30PARK. IT IS ACTIVATED
2:11:33APPROXIMATELY 120 DAYS, OR A
2:11:35THIRD OF THE YEAR. HIGHLIGHTED
2:11:42HERE IN RED IS THE ZONE V
2:11:44PERMIT DISTRICT. THIS WAS
2:11:46CREATED IN 2024 TO HELP
2:11:49PRIORITIZE PARKING FOR
2:11:50RESIDENTS DURING LARGE EVENTS,
2:11:52AND THIS CAME TO FRUITION
2:11:54BECAUSE THERE WAS A NUMBER OF
2:11:56RESIDENTS IN THE ELLIOTT
2:11:57NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAVE BEEN
2:11:58ASKING FOR YEARS TO HELP
2:12:00SUPPORT THEM ON THE CONGESTION
2:12:01THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING IN
2:12:03THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. I WANT TO
2:12:07HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS THIS
2:12:08PROGRAM WAS DESIGNED FOR THE
2:12:10NEIGHBORHOOD BY THE
2:12:11NEIGHBORHOOD. SO BACK IN 2024,
2:12:13WHEN IT WAS CREATED, A COUPLE
2:12:15THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS
2:12:17THAT THERE ARE INCOME BASED
2:12:19PERMITS. SO BASED ON YOUR
2:12:20INCOME, THE RATE FOR AN ANNUAL
2:12:22PERMIT IS $65 OR $155. THERE'S
2:12:27ALSO GUEST PERMITS. SO THIS WAS
2:12:29REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE
2:12:30COMMITTEE FOR CAREGIVERS AND
2:12:32ANY VISITORS TO THE
2:12:34NEIGHBORHOOD TO THAT ARE
2:12:36REGULAR AND ROUTINE VISITORS.
2:12:37SO WE HAVE A GUEST PERMIT
2:12:38PROGRAM, AND WE ALSO HAVE
2:12:40NONPROFIT PERMITS AVAILABLE
2:12:41BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF
2:12:42NONPROFITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:12:45SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE
2:12:46NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A COUPLE OF
2:12:47YEARS, AND SINCE THE
2:12:49ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PERMIT, WE
2:12:50HAVE BEEN EVALUATING EVER SINCE.
2:12:53WE THEN ADDED PAY TO PARK TO
2:12:55THIS AREA. SO IF THE IF YOU ARE
2:12:58NOT A PERMIT HOLDER, YOU MUST
2:13:00PAY TO PARK. THE CURRENT RATE
2:13:02IS $5.40. HERE ON THE SCREEN IS
2:13:11A OCCUPANCY STUDY THAT WAS DONE
2:13:14DURING A BLAZERS AND
2:13:16WINTERHAWKS GAME IN MARCH OF 26.
2:13:20DURING THIS YEAR'S DATA
2:13:22COLLECTION, THE PEAK OCCUPANCY
2:13:23WAS 96%, WHICH MATCHES WHAT WE
2:13:26HEARD ANECDOTALLY FROM THE
2:13:27NEIGHBORHOOD. PARKING IS STILL
2:13:29EXTREMELY CONSTRAINED AND
2:13:30RESIDENTS ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY
2:13:32PARKING DURING EVENTS. AS YOU
2:13:35CAN SEE FROM THE SCREEN, ANY
2:13:37ANY BLOCK FACE IN RED IS
2:13:40CONSIDERED CONSTRAINED. SO 96%
2:13:42IS REALLY HIGH FOR THE
2:13:43NEIGHBORHOOD. WE TALK A LOT
2:13:47ABOUT OCCUPANCY WHEN IT COMES
2:13:48TO PARKING MANAGEMENT, AND I
2:13:50WANT TO SHOW YOU A DIAGRAM
2:13:51ABOUT WHY THIS MATTERS. SO THE
2:13:55PEAK OCCUPANCY IN ELLIOTT WAS
2:13:5796%, WHICH IS WHICH MEANS THAT
2:14:00SOME BLOCKS WERE ACTUALLY 100%
2:14:02AND YOU COULD NOT FIND A SPACE
2:14:03ANYWHERE WHEN PARKING IS THIS
2:14:06CONSTRAINED. WE ALSO HAVE OTHER
2:14:08ISSUES, MOSTLY SAFETY ISSUES,
2:14:10BECAUSE PEOPLE TEND TO THEN
2:14:11PARK IN FRONT OF FIRE HYDRANTS,
2:14:14BLOCK VISION CLEARANCE, AND
2:14:16PARK OVER CROSSWALKS. IF YOU
2:14:19LIVED IN ELLIOTT AND CAME HOME
2:14:21DURING A GAME, THIS IS WHAT YOU
2:14:23WOULD EXPERIENCE. HOW PBOT
2:14:31MANAGES PARKING IS TO TO KEEP
2:14:33THE OCCUPANCY UNDER 85%. SO
2:14:36IDEALLY THERE'D BE 1 TO 3
2:14:37SPACES AVAILABLE. AS YOU CAN
2:14:39SEE BY THE DIAGRAM, THAT SHOWS
2:14:41AN 80% OCCUPANCY. SO WHEN A
2:14:43RESIDENT COMES HOME FROM WORK
2:14:45OR RUNNING AN ERRAND, WE WANT
2:14:46THEM TO BE ABLE TO FIND A SPACE
2:14:48ON THE STREET. AND IF THEY'RE A
2:14:50BUSINESS OR NONPROFIT, WE WENT
2:14:51THROUGH THEIR GUESTS, THEIR
2:14:53CUSTOMERS TO BE ABLE TO FIND A
2:14:55SPOT. OUR PROPOSAL TODAY IS TO
2:15:00INCREASE THE RATE FROM $5.40 TO
2:15:03$8 PER HOUR. ONLY ON THE BLOCK
2:15:06FACES THAT ARE EXPERIENCING THE
2:15:08HIGHEST DEMAND. SO WE WILL
2:15:12UPDATE. THE PROPOSAL IS TO
2:15:13UPDATE THE TRANSPORTATION FEE
2:15:15SCHEDULE TO CREATE A NEW LINE
2:15:17ITEM FOR $8 RATE. FOR EVENT
2:15:23PARKING. IF EVENT GOERS MUST
2:15:25DRIVE, WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE
2:15:27TO PARK IN THE. THAT AREA OF
2:15:30THE THE REMAINING AREA OF THE
2:15:32LLOYD EVENT DISTRICT AND NOT IN
2:15:33THE ELLIOTT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE
2:15:35REST OF THE LLOYD EVENT
2:15:36DISTRICT IS ARE DIFFERENT TYPES
2:15:38OF USES AND THE CAPACITY FOR
2:15:40PARKING IS THERE. HERE'S A
2:15:44ZOOMED IN VERSION OF THAT. SO
2:15:46YOU CAN SEE SPECIFICALLY WHICH
2:15:47BLOCK FACES ARE BEING IMPACTED.
2:15:55THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL TODAY. AND
2:15:59AS I SAID, I'VE BEEN WORKING
2:15:59WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I AM
2:16:01COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS
2:16:02PROGRAM WORK FOR THE MANY
2:16:04RESIDENTS IMPACTED BY THE
2:16:05ROUTINE EVENTS.
2:16:09>> IS THAT THE.
2:16:10>> THAT'S IT. WE'RE HERE. I'M
2:16:12SORRY. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER
2:16:13QUESTIONS.
2:16:14>> THANK YOU. REILLY, BEFORE WE
2:16:16DO THAT, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP
2:16:18TO TESTIFY ON THIS?
2:16:19>> WE DO HAVE ONE INVITED
2:16:21TESTIMONY.
2:16:21>> WHEN INVITED. CAN WE HEAR
2:16:22FROM THAT PERSON BEFORE WE HAVE
2:16:24OUR CONVERSATION? WELCOME.
2:16:27THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
2:16:29>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
2:16:30THANKS FOR HAVING ME. FOR THE
2:16:32RECORD, I'M JASON FRANKLIN. I
2:16:33LIVE AT 1907 NORTHEAST RODNEY
2:16:35AVENUE. SO WITHIN THE PARKING
2:16:37DISTRICT AND WITHIN THE
2:16:39PROPOSED $8 INCREASE AREA. SO
2:16:42FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO
2:16:43REILLY AND ALL THE STAFF WHO'VE
2:16:45BEEN WORKING WITH THE
2:16:46NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A LONG TIME.
2:16:47MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED AT OUR
2:16:49CURRENT RESIDENCE FOR 28 YEARS,
2:16:53SO WE'VE SEEN THE TRAFFIC
2:16:55GRADUALLY INCREASE OVER THE
2:16:57YEARS, PARTIALLY TO MORE AND
2:16:59MORE EVENTS IN THE DISTRICT,
2:17:01WHICH IS GREAT, AND ALSO MORE
2:17:02RESIDENTS, WHICH IS ALSO GREAT.
2:17:04BUT AS WAS POINTED OUT, PARKING
2:17:05IS A SCARCE RESOURCE AND NEEDS
2:17:07TO BE MANAGED ADEQUATELY. AND
2:17:10CURRENTLY THAT'S JUST NOT THE
2:17:12CASE. SO AS WAS POINTED OUT, WE
2:17:14DO PAY A YEARLY RATE FOR
2:17:18PARKING PRIVILEGE OF PARKING IN
2:17:20FRONT OF HOPEFULLY CLOSE TO OUR
2:17:22HOUSE, AND THAT'S $155 A YEAR.
2:17:25AND THAT IS IN NO WAY
2:17:27GUARANTEES THAT WE'LL HAVE ANY
2:17:28PLACE TO PARK ON A GAME DAY OR
2:17:30MAJOR EVENT. AND SO WE JUST WE
2:17:32DON'T GO OUT. RIGHT. YOU WANT
2:17:34TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE
2:17:36GROCERIES AND DON'T HAVE
2:17:37ANYTHING COME UP DURING A GAME
2:17:38DAY, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GETTING
2:17:40A SPACE TO PARK ANYWHERE CLOSE
2:17:41TO YOUR HOUSE. IF YOU'RE IN
2:17:43THAT IMPACTED AREA THAT THAT
2:17:44REALLY INDICATED. SO HOPEFULLY
2:17:48THIS INCREASE WILL HELP
2:17:50ALLEVIATE THAT SOMEWHAT. I'M
2:17:52NOT ENTIRELY CONVINCED THAT $8
2:17:54IS EVEN ENOUGH, REALLY, GIVEN
2:17:56THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, 50 BUCKS
2:17:59TO, TO PARK NEXT TO THE ARENA
2:18:00AND 25 TO PARK ACROSS THE
2:18:02STREET OR WHATEVER IT IS. SO I
2:18:04THINK THERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE
2:18:06PARKING IMPACTS. BUT THIS FIRST
2:18:09STEP IS IMPORTANT TO TAKE. AND
2:18:10I THINK MOVING IN MORE OF A
2:18:13DYNAMIC PRICING, GIVING STAFF A
2:18:14LITTLE MORE LEEWAY TO CONTINUE
2:18:15TO MANAGE THE DISTRICT AS WE
2:18:17MOVE FORWARD. WORKING WITH THE
2:18:18NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS
2:18:19GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. SO AGAIN,
2:18:22I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
2:18:24TIME AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE
2:18:25YES ON THIS RESOLUTION, MOVE IT
2:18:27TO OR THIS ORDINANCE AND MOVE
2:18:29IT TO FULL COUNCIL. THANK YOU.
2:18:31>> THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR
2:18:32BEING HERE TODAY. COLLEAGUES. I
2:18:34DON'T SEE ANY HANDS UP YET. SO
2:18:35I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION.
2:18:37CAN YOU ARE WE DO WE HAVE
2:18:39TESTIFIERS? WE HAVE ANOTHER
2:18:40PERSON.
2:18:41>> WE HAVE WE HAVE TWO
2:18:42TESTIFIERS TODAY. YES.
2:18:43>> I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ONE.
2:18:45GREAT.
2:18:45>> THANK YOU. SUPER. WE HAVE
2:18:47ALAN REDWICK AND EDAN KROLEVETS.
2:18:50>> HI, ALAN. THANK YOU FOR
2:18:52BEING HERE.
2:18:53>> HELLO. I HAVE EXTENSIVE
2:18:55NOTES, BUT I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
2:18:58GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ALAN
2:18:59RUDWICK. I'M CURRENTLY THE
2:19:01CO-CHAIR OF THE ELLIOTT
2:19:02NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'VE
2:19:03BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN ALL THE
2:19:04COMMITTEE MEETINGS. THERE HAVE
2:19:06BEEN MANY MORE THAN 20 OVER THE
2:19:08YEARS TALKING ABOUT THIS
2:19:09PROCESS. YOU KNOW, THE FIRST
2:19:12ATTEMPT FOR THIS WAS IN 1992.
2:19:15IN 2011, THERE WAS A MINI AREA
2:19:17PERMIT PROGRAM THAT WAS CREATED.
2:19:20IN 2018, THERE WERE TWO PILOT
2:19:23AREAS, BOISE AND ELLIOTT, THAT
2:19:24WERE CREATED. THE PARKING TASK
2:19:26FORCE STARTED IN 2022. THIS IS
2:19:29NOW THE SECOND ROUND. WE TRIED
2:19:31PERMITS. ENFORCEMENT COULDN'T
2:19:32DO IT. NOW WE HAVE METERS. THE
2:19:34PRICE ISN'T HIGH ENOUGH, AND WE
2:19:37ALSO HAVE A LARGER PLAN, THE
2:19:39NORTH NORTHEAST PLAN, WHICH IS
2:19:42STALLED WAITING FOR YOU GUYS OR
2:19:43WAITING FOR STAFF TO BRING
2:19:44SOMETHING TO YOU GUYS THAT YOU
2:19:46COULD LET US CREATE A COMMITTEE
2:19:48TODAY, BUT YOU COULD ALSO WAIT
2:19:49AND INSTRUCT STAFF TO COME BACK
2:19:51WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE
2:19:53INFORMATION FOR YOU ABOUT THAT.
2:19:56BUT AS JASON SAID, YOU KNOW,
2:19:57PEOPLE CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF
2:19:59THEIR HOUSE. THE ENTIRE PURPOSE
2:20:00OF THIS DISTRICT WAS TO LET
2:20:01PEOPLE PARK IN FRONT OF THEIR
2:20:03HOUSE. SO A LOT OF MONEY, YOU
2:20:05KNOW, 25,000 A YEAR FROM
2:20:06RESIDENTS. PLUS, IT SOUNDS LIKE
2:20:07THREE QUARTERS OF $1 MILLION IN
2:20:09METER REVENUE IS GOING TO NOT
2:20:10ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. I MEAN,
2:20:12REVENUE IS GREAT, BUT THAT'S
2:20:14NOT WHAT WE TRIED TO DO. AND
2:20:16WE'RE QUITE FRUSTRATED. THIS
2:20:19ZONE V WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE
2:20:20ONE OF MANY THINGS THAT WE
2:20:21TALKED ABOUT DURING THIS
2:20:23PARKING AREA PLAN. AS YOU KNOW,
2:20:25LIKE WE HAVE SEVERAL COMMERCIAL
2:20:27DISTRICTS IN THE AREA AND
2:20:28PARKING AROUND THOSE AREAS HAS
2:20:29BEEN CONSTRAINED AS MORE
2:20:31HOUSING HAS GOTTEN BUILT AND WE
2:20:33AREN'T ABLE TO DEAL WITH ANY OF
2:20:35THOSE ISSUES UNTIL THE NORTH
2:20:36NORTHEAST PARKING PLAN IS
2:20:38ADOPTED. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE
2:20:40SOME POTENTIAL LANGUAGE YOU
2:20:42COULD AMEND TO THE ORDINANCE
2:20:44YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
2:20:46IF YOU WANTED TO PASS THAT. IN
2:20:49MY WRITTEN TESTIMONY ONLINE.
2:20:52BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER
2:20:53PROBLEMS WITH THE CURRENT SETUP.
2:20:55ONE IS MOST OF THE NEWER
2:20:57PARKING PERMIT AREAS SHARE 51%
2:21:00OF THEIR REVENUE WITH THE AREA
2:21:03THAT THEY'RE SET UP IN, BUT
2:21:04THIS ONE IS CURRENTLY JUST
2:21:05DUMPING ALL OF ITS MONEY
2:21:07SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE'RE NOT
2:21:08GETTING ANY BENEFITS. WE HAD
2:21:10TRIED TO SUBSIDIZE LOW INCOME
2:21:12PERMITS, PROVIDE GUEST PERMITS,
2:21:14WHICH I GUESS DISAPPEARED IN
2:21:16ONE OF THE ITERATIONS OF THIS
2:21:17PLAN. SO THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO
2:21:19BE SOME PERKS TO THE NEIGHBORS
2:21:22IN THE AREA THAT HAVE BEEN LOST.
2:21:24I THINK HAVING A NORTH
2:21:26NORTHEAST PARKING DISTRICT
2:21:27WOULD ALLOW US TO CONTINUE THE
2:21:29CONVERSATIONS AND KIND OF GET
2:21:30SOME OF THAT STUFF BACK, BUT
2:21:33WE'RE PRETTY. I PERSONALLY AM
2:21:35FRUSTRATED. THE PEOPLE THAT
2:21:36LIVE IN THE AREA ARE FRUSTRATED.
2:21:37I MEAN, THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL
2:21:39ENFORCEMENT, SO THEY'RE GETTING
2:21:40PARKING TICKETS. I KNOW SOMEONE
2:21:41IS GETTING LIKE THEIR PAYCHECKS
2:21:43GARNISHED TO PAY PARKING
2:21:45TICKETS BASED ON THE NEW
2:21:47DISTRICT THAT WAS CREATED.
2:21:49BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PARK
2:21:50IN FRONT OF ANYWHERE THAT
2:21:52YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO NOW
2:21:53YOU'RE GOING TO GET THERE'S A
2:21:54LOT OF ENFORCEMENT GOING AROUND,
2:21:56SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET
2:21:57TICKETED. BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW,
2:21:58THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS WAS YOU
2:22:00SHOULD BE ABLE TO PARK ON YOUR
2:22:02BLOCK OR CLOSE TO YOUR HOUSE
2:22:03DURING THE EVENT. SO I'M, I'M
2:22:06NERVOUS THAT $8 IS NOT GOING TO
2:22:07BE ENOUGH, THAT THIS IS NOT
2:22:09GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR
2:22:10ANOTHER TWO YEARS. AND IT'LL BE
2:22:12TOTALLY DIFFERENT GROUP OF
2:22:13FACES. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
2:22:14GOING TO BE STUCK IN DEALING
2:22:16WITH THE REALITIES OF THIS SEMI
2:22:18FAILING PARKING DISTRICT FOR A
2:22:20WHILE. SO IF YOU WANT, I CAN
2:22:23READ THE SUGGESTED AMENDMENT
2:22:26LANGUAGE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF
2:22:27THAT'S WORTH YOUR TIME. IT'S
2:22:29WRITTEN DOWN IN THE WRITTEN
2:22:31TESTIMONY. I CAN GIVE YOU MORE
2:22:33INFORMATION ABOUT ALL THE MANY,
2:22:35MANY MEETINGS AND PHONE CALLS
2:22:37I'VE HAD ABOUT THIS, BUT ALSO,
2:22:39YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANT TO
2:22:43HOG THE TIME. I'D LOVE TO HAVE
2:22:44MORE OF A DISCUSSION IF THAT'S.
2:22:46>> COLLEAGUES. DO WE HAVE AN
2:22:47OPINION ON THE AMENDMENT?
2:22:50>> I WOULD LIKE FOR THE TESTIFY
2:22:52TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD.
2:22:53>> OKAY. GO AHEAD.
2:22:54>> OKAY. SO THERE'S THREE
2:22:56PIECES
2:22:57>> THAT THE DEPUTY CITY
2:22:58ADMINISTRATOR AND PUBLIC WORKS
2:23:00IS AUTHORIZED TO IMPLEMENT THE
2:23:01NORTH NORTHEAST PARKING
2:23:02DISTRICT AS OUTLINED IN THE
2:23:04PARKING MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN.
2:23:06THIS IS A LONG DOCUMENT. IT WAS
2:23:08CREATED OVER TWO YEARS. SORRY,
2:23:10I'M INTERRUPTING MY READING.
2:23:12SECOND PORTLAND BUREAU OF
2:23:16PORTLAND. BUREAU OF
2:23:17TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR IS
2:23:18AUTHORIZED TO APPOINT A NORTH
2:23:20NORTHEAST PARKING DISTRICT
2:23:21STAKEHOLDER ADVISORY COMMITTEE
2:23:23TO INFORM FUTURE ACTIONS. PART
2:23:26THREE THE PORTLAND BUREAU OF
2:23:28TRANSPORTATION WILL RETURN TO
2:23:29COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH ANY NEW
2:23:31METER OR PERMIT PROGRAMS
2:23:32WITHOUT COUNCIL ACTION, METER
2:23:34OR PERMIT PROGRAMS CANNOT BE
2:23:36IMPLEMENTED. YOU KNOW, I WOULD
2:23:37LOVE TO NOT SEE THAT LAST ONE,
2:23:38BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL
2:23:40PROBABLY WANT CONTROL. SO
2:23:41BASICALLY, THIS ISN'T REALLY
2:23:42ALLOWING US TO DO ANYTHING
2:23:43EXCEPT KEEP TALKING. OTHERWISE,
2:23:46WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME
2:23:47BACK AND ASK FOR PERMISSION
2:23:49AGAIN TO CONTINUE THAT WORK. SO.
2:23:55I'D LOVE TO NOT HAVE TO SPEND
2:23:56YOUR TIME.
2:23:58>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
2:23:59MUCH FOR THAT. I'M NOT AS
2:24:01FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS THAT
2:24:04PBOT USES ON PARKING DISTRICTS,
2:24:05SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WHAT
2:24:08THEIR REACTION IS TO THIS. AND
2:24:13IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT. I'M
2:24:14CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT COUNCILOR
2:24:17KANAL MIGHT THINK ABOUT THIS.
2:24:21OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE IF
2:24:22THERE'S ARE THERE OTHER OTHER
2:24:25WITNESSES, OTHER FOLKS HERE TO
2:24:27TESTIFY?
2:24:27>> THAT CONCLUDES TESTIMONY OUR
2:24:28OTHER TESTIFIER CHOSE NOT TO
2:24:31TODAY.
2:24:31>> THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.
2:24:33THANK YOU. YES. WELL, WE HAVE A
2:24:36BUNCH OF HANDS UP, STARTING
2:24:37WITH COUNCILOR SMITH.
2:24:40>> OKAY.
2:24:42>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
2:24:44READING THAT. HOW WILL PBOT
2:24:46MEASURE WHETHER THE PROPOSED $8
2:24:49PARKING RATES IMPROVES PARKING
2:24:51AVAILABILITY WITHOUT CREATING
2:24:53UNNECESSARY FINANCIAL BURDENS?
2:24:57>> YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT?
2:24:58>> YES. SO THE REASON WHY WE
2:25:01PROPOSED $8 IS BECAUSE WE HAVE
2:25:03A PARKING MANAGEMENT MANUAL
2:25:05THAT HELPS US DICTATE HOW MUCH
2:25:07PARKING SHOULD BE. AND IT ALSO
2:25:10BASED ON THAT, WE WERE WE DOING
2:25:12$8 AN HOUR. WE'RE HOPING TO SEE
2:25:14A DECREASE IN OCCUPANCY. NOW WE
2:25:17ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE
2:25:19PROPERTY MANAGERS IN THE
2:25:20NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE SURE THAT
2:25:21RESIDENTS ARE PURCHASING
2:25:23PERMITS. AND WE KNOW THAT IF
2:25:26THERE IF THERE IS A LOW INCOME
2:25:29DISCOUNT. SO WE ARE PROMOTING
2:25:32THAT AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT
2:25:33THEY HAVE PERMITS, BECAUSE IT
2:25:34IS MUCH MORE INEXPENSIVE THAN
2:25:37PAYING FOR PARKING ON A DAILY
2:25:40BASIS.
2:25:46>> COUNCILOR KANAL.
2:25:48>> THANK YOU, CHAIR CLARK. SO
2:25:51FIRST, THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS
2:25:52FORWARD. I'M IT'S MY DISTRICT.
2:25:54OBVIOUSLY. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE,
2:25:56THE, THE WORK THAT PBOT HAS
2:25:57DONE IN THIS. WHILE I'M VERY
2:26:00EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA, YOU
2:26:01KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MODA CENTER OR
2:26:03VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM
2:26:04BRING NECESSARY BUSINESS TO THE
2:26:05DISTRICT. OBVIOUSLY, WE SEE THE
2:26:07EFFECTS OF THAT WHEN WE'RE AT
2:26:09CART SIDE OR SOMALI BOY OR
2:26:10ANYWHERE ELSE ON WILLIAMS, FOR
2:26:13EXAMPLE. IT'S THERE'S A LOT OF
2:26:16IMPACT AS WELL ON ADJACENT
2:26:17NEIGHBORS. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF
2:26:21TESTIMONY AND EMAILS COME IN
2:26:23AROUND EVENT PARKING SPILLING
2:26:24INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU'VE
2:26:27OBVIOUSLY BACKED THAT UP WITH
2:26:28THE WITH THE WITH THE DATA
2:26:29TODAY. AND I THINK THE IDEA IS
2:26:31THAT WE SHOULD BE TAKING A STEP
2:26:34TO MAKE IT A LITTLE LESS
2:26:35ATTRACTIVE FOR EVENT GOERS TO
2:26:36PARK ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND
2:26:39THEREFORE CREATE MORE SPACES
2:26:40WHILE PROTECTING. AS WE
2:26:42IMPLEMENT THAT, RESIDENTS AND
2:26:44PERMIT HOLDERS FROM ANY OF THE
2:26:46POTENTIAL NEGATIVE EFFECTS. I
2:26:47DID HAVE A QUESTION AROUND A
2:26:49FEW DIFFERENT THINGS, SO HEARD
2:26:52ABOUT FROM NEIGHBORHOOD
2:26:53BUSINESSES LIKE LAZY DAYS
2:26:55BREWING, FOR EXAMPLE, ABOUT
2:26:56SOME OF THE UNINTENDED IMPACTS
2:26:57OF THIS APPROACH AROUND
2:26:58CUSTOMER ACCESS AND CONFUSION
2:27:00ABOUT WHEN EVENT PRICING IS IN
2:27:02EFFECT. AND SO I WANTED TO JUST
2:27:04KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT AS
2:27:07SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN TO LAZY DAYS
2:27:09A FEW TIMES TRYING TO, YOU KNOW,
2:27:10MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO
2:27:12SUCCEED, BUT HOW, HOW IS YEAH,
2:27:15IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHERE
2:27:16THIS QUESTION IS GOING, SO I'LL
2:27:18JUST LET YOU DO IT.
2:27:19>> ARE YOU? YEAH, WE HAVE HEARD
2:27:21FROM LAZY DAYS BREWING AS WELL.
2:27:23THAT AREA IS NOT PROPOSED FOR A
2:27:26CHANGE IN THE PRICING METER.
2:27:28PARKING THE THE TOP PART. WE'RE
2:27:31NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE
2:27:32METER RATE. SO IT'S A LITTLE
2:27:33BIT SEPARATE FROM THE ORDINANCE
2:27:35WE BROUGHT TODAY. BUT WE ALSO
2:27:38ARE REALLY GLAD THAT THROUGH
2:27:39THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE OPENED UP
2:27:42THE AVENUES FOR MORE ENGAGEMENT
2:27:43WITH THOSE STAKEHOLDERS IN THAT
2:27:45AREA. IT'S THERE'S SOME OFFICE
2:27:47BUILDINGS, THERE'S SOME NEW
2:27:48MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. THERE'S
2:27:49HARRIET TUBMAN SCHOOL, LAZY
2:27:51DAYS BREWING, AND WE WANT TO
2:27:53CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM TO
2:27:54FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SOLUTION TO
2:27:56THE PROBLEM IS THERE. IS IT THE
2:27:59WAY THE SIGNAGE IS DISPLAYED,
2:28:01WHICH I RODE MY BIKE BY THIS
2:28:02MORNING AND LOOKED AT, AND IT'S
2:28:04A LITTLE CONFUSING, SO I THINK
2:28:06WE CAN WORK ON IT. SO CAN WE
2:28:07WORK ON THE SIGNAGE? CAN WE
2:28:09UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT THE
2:28:10ISSUES ARE FROM ALL THE
2:28:11STAKEHOLDERS AND FIGURE OUT
2:28:12WHAT THE SOLUTION IS? SO WE ARE
2:28:14COMMITTED TO CONTINUING THAT
2:28:15CONVERSATION AND FIGURING IT
2:28:16OUT. I DON'T HAVE A LIKE AN
2:28:18EASY SOLUTION TO OFFER YOU
2:28:19TODAY, BUT WE ARE WE ARE GOING
2:28:22TO STAY IN THE CONVERSATION.
2:28:24AND IT IS NOT THAT IS NOT
2:28:26IMPACTED BY THE ORDINANCE THAT
2:28:27IS BEFORE YOU TODAY.
2:28:29>> RIGHT. AND I THINK YOU'RE
2:28:31YOU'RE RAISING IT'S A GOOD
2:28:32PIVOT INTO MY NEXT QUESTION,
2:28:33BECAUSE SIGNAGE IS ANOTHER
2:28:34THING THAT'S COME UP. AND
2:28:36BROADLY ENFORCEMENT, WE GET A
2:28:37LOT OF EMAILS. I KNOW THAT THE
2:28:40COUNCILOR PIRTLE-GUINEY IS ALSO
2:28:41MENTIONED IT TO ME THAT THAT
2:28:44THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT
2:28:45ENFORCEMENT CONCERNS ABOUT LACK
2:28:47THEREOF, MEANING THERE ARE
2:28:49PEOPLE WHO ARE ALLEGED TO BE
2:28:51PARKING LONGER THAN THE STATED
2:28:53TIME LIMITS, AS WELL AS NOT
2:28:55PAYING AT ALL. AND OBVIOUSLY,
2:28:57IT CAN FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF
2:28:59YOU'RE A RESIDENT THERE, I HAVE
2:29:00TO PAY FOR $110 A YEAR PERMIT,
2:29:02AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE KIND OF
2:29:04GETTING AWAY WITH NOT DOING SO.
2:29:05SO I WANTED TO, I WANTED TO
2:29:08JUST KIND OF ASK ABOUT THAT.
2:29:09THERE'S, THERE'S ONE SIDE OF IT
2:29:11WHICH IS ENSURING THAT
2:29:12EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE
2:29:13STANDARD IS, AND SIGNAGE IS A
2:29:15PART OF THAT. BUT THE OTHER
2:29:17PIECE IS SORT OF PBOT
2:29:18ENFORCEMENT. CAN YOU SPEAK TO
2:29:19HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK?
2:29:21>> YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE
2:29:22THE FRAMING OF THE TWO SIDED
2:29:23EQUATION OF BOTH MAKING OUR
2:29:25EXPECTATIONS CLEAR AND THEN
2:29:26MAKING SURE EVERYONE FOLLOWS
2:29:27THE SAME SET OF RULES. WE'VE
2:29:28HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS
2:29:29ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE
2:29:30ENFORCEMENT IN THIS AREA. DO
2:29:32YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
2:29:33STRATEGIES?
2:29:33>> SURE. YEAH. WE KNOW THAT
2:29:35PRICING ALONE IS NOT THE ONLY
2:29:36TOOL THAT'S GOING TO FIX THIS
2:29:38ISSUE. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH
2:29:40PARKING ENFORCEMENT ON A COUPLE
2:29:42OTHER STRATEGIES. WE PLAN TO
2:29:46HAVE, ESPECIALLY DURING THE THE
2:29:48BEGINNING OF THE SEASON, REALLY
2:29:51HAVE FOCUSED ENFORCEMENT IN
2:29:53THAT AREA. SO THAT IS ONE PLAN.
2:29:56WE ALSO ARE STILL ENGAGING WITH
2:30:00THE RESIDENTS ON ENSURING THAT
2:30:01THEY GET PERMITS AND THEN
2:30:05PUTTING OUT SOME TEMPORARY
2:30:07SIGNS, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THE
2:30:09RULES AND KNOWING ALSO WHAT THE
2:30:12POTENTIAL CITATIONS COULD BE SO
2:30:15THAT IT ENCOURAGES THEM TO PAY
2:30:17TO PARK AND THEN ALONG. AND ONE
2:30:19OTHER THING ALONG WITH THIS
2:30:21PROPOSAL IS THAT IT ACTUALLY
2:30:23WILL ALLOW FOR US TO HIGHLIGHT
2:30:25THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEND IT
2:30:27TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH RIP
2:30:29CITY COMMUNICATIONS SO THAT
2:30:31THEY CAN NOW PUT A MAP ON, YOU
2:30:33KNOW, ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT
2:30:35SAYS, DO YOU KNOW, WE DO NOT
2:30:37ENCOURAGE YOU TO PARK HERE, WE
2:30:39ENCOURAGE YOU TO PARK IN THE
2:30:40REST OF THE EVENT DISTRICT. AND
2:30:42WE DID NOT HAVE THAT PRIOR TO
2:30:44THIS PROPOSAL.
2:30:46>> OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. SO,
2:30:50YOU KNOW, IN THE FINANCIAL AND
2:30:52BUDGETARY IMPACTS, IT SAYS THAT
2:30:53THE ANTICIPATION IS THAT THIS
2:30:55IS GOING TO BE REVENUE NEUTRAL
2:30:56BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE
2:30:57INCREASING THE NUMBER OR SORRY,
2:30:58WE'RE DECREASING THE NUMBER OF
2:30:59PEOPLE WHO PAY, EVEN AS WE'RE
2:31:01INCREASING THE AMOUNT EACH
2:31:02PERSON PAYS. I HAD TWO
2:31:05QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT. ONE
2:31:06IS, CAN WE EARMARK ANY
2:31:08ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT DOES
2:31:10COME IN IF THOSE PROJECTIONS
2:31:12ARE OFF FOR SIGNAGE AND
2:31:14ENFORCEMENT? IS THAT IS THAT
2:31:17SOMETHING DOABLE?
2:31:18>> I MEAN.
2:31:19>> WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT
2:31:20HOW THE ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUES
2:31:22GET SPENT. I WOULD WANT TO
2:31:25CONSULT WITH OUR OUR INTERIM
2:31:27DIRECTOR, WHO'S SITTING IN THE
2:31:28BACK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT DO THAT.
2:31:30>> OKAY. AND THEN. SIMILARLY,
2:31:34HAS THERE BEEN ANALYSIS DONE ON
2:31:37IF THERE'S AN EXPECTED INCREASE
2:31:40TO REVENUES IN THE PARKING
2:31:41GARAGES? BECAUSE IF THE IDEA IS
2:31:44TO DISPLACE EVENT PARKING FROM
2:31:46THE STREETS, SOME OF THAT MAY
2:31:48END UP BEING TRANSIT, OF COURSE,
2:31:50BUT SOME OF IT MAY ALSO END UP
2:31:52BEING PARKING IN THE THE CITY
2:31:54GARAGES.
2:31:54>> I THINK THE I THINK, YOU
2:31:57KNOW, WITH THE CITY'S ON STREET
2:31:58PARKING MANAGEMENT, THIS SMALL
2:32:00AREA GOING UP TO $8 AN HOUR.
2:32:01WE'RE HOPING THAT IT HELPS
2:32:02PEOPLE FIND PARKING IN OTHER
2:32:04AREAS, WHETHER THAT'S OFF
2:32:06STREET IN A LOT OR IN THE REST
2:32:08OF THE EVENT DISTRICT WHERE THE
2:32:09PARKING RATES AREN'T CHANGING.
2:32:11SO MOST OF THE LLOYD DISTRICT
2:32:12EVENT DISTRICT WILL REMAIN AT
2:32:13THAT $5.40 AN HOUR. AND THERE
2:32:16IS CAPACITY FOR MORE PEOPLE TO
2:32:17PARK IN THE REST OF THAT LLOYD
2:32:19EVENT DISTRICT. SO WE'RE HOPING
2:32:20INSTEAD OF PARKING IN THE IN
2:32:22THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD,
2:32:23THAT HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON
2:32:24THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
2:32:25PEOPLE INSTEAD PARK IN THE REST
2:32:27OF THE LLOYD DISTRICT, WHERE
2:32:28THE LAND USE CONTEXT IS IS MORE
2:32:30COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE.
2:32:32>> THAT OPENS UP A QUESTION OF
2:32:34IF THAT MAKES THOSE AREAS ABOVE
2:32:3685%, WHY SHOULD WE EXPECT THAT?
2:32:38YOU'RE CHECKING THAT FREQUENTLY
2:32:40AND COMING BACK TO US AT THAT
2:32:41POINT, BECAUSE I WHAT I, I'D
2:32:43PREFER THAT OVER, YOU KNOW,
2:32:46NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS
2:32:47RAISING IT AND NOT FEELING LIKE
2:32:48THAT'S REFLECTED. RIGHT.
2:32:51>> YEAH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO
2:32:52MONITOR. SO WE WILL BE DOING
2:32:54ANOTHER PARKING STUDY. WE DO
2:32:56ONE AT ONCE TO TWICE A YEAR TO
2:32:59CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
2:33:01OCCUPANCY IS AT THAT, AT THAT
2:33:03LEVEL THAT WE WANT TO SEE IT AT.
2:33:05SO WE DO THE ENTIRE LLOYD EVENT
2:33:07DISTRICT ONCE TO TWICE A YEAR.
2:33:10>> OKAY. THE LAST THING THAT I
2:33:14WANTED TO RAISE IS, YOU KNOW,
2:33:15WHEN WE'RE ON THE TOPIC OF
2:33:17EARMARKS, AND I DON'T THINK
2:33:18THERE'S ENOUGH REVENUE TO MAKE
2:33:19THIS ALL WORK, BUT I AM
2:33:21CONCERNED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.
2:33:22I APPRECIATE THAT THERE IS A
2:33:23THAT THERE IS A OPTION FOR LOW
2:33:25INCOME RESIDENTS TO GET A $65
2:33:27PERMIT ANNUALLY INSTEAD OF A
2:33:29110. BUT OBVIOUSLY IF YOU LIVE
2:33:30ELSEWHERE, IT'S FREE TO PARK ON
2:33:32THE STREET. SO I JUST WANTED TO
2:33:34UNDERSTAND IN TERMS OF ONE,
2:33:36MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS
2:33:37AWARENESS OF THE ELIGIBILITY
2:33:38FOR THE DISCOUNT PROGRAM. I
2:33:41KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO
2:33:43DON'T KNOW THAT THEY COULD GET
2:33:44THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE
2:33:48IS THERE'S STREAMLINING OF THE
2:33:50ONLINE APPLICATION. WE'VE
2:33:51GOTTEN FEEDBACK ON THAT BEING A
2:33:53FAIRLY ARDUOUS PROCESS TO MY
2:33:56OFFICE. SO ALSO, JUST ONE OTHER
2:33:59THING. IS THIS IN FACT, GOING
2:34:01TO BE THE HIGHEST RATE FOR
2:34:03EVENT PARKING ANYWHERE IN THE
2:34:04CITY? BECAUSE THAT'S I'VE
2:34:05GOTTEN THAT EMAIL, BUT I DON'T
2:34:07KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE.
2:34:08>> RIGHT NOW IN THE NORTH
2:34:11NORTHWEST PARKING DISTRICT
2:34:13AROUND PROVIDENCE PARK, I, I
2:34:16THINK THAT RATE RIGHT NOW IS $7
2:34:18AN HOUR.
2:34:19>> OKAY. SO THIS, THIS WOULD
2:34:20PASS THAT. OKAY. SO THEN, YOU
2:34:22KNOW, I, I WOULD REQUEST THAT,
2:34:23YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING
2:34:24ABOUT FARMERS MARKETS AND
2:34:25NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
2:34:26MEETINGS AND ALL THAT, JUST
2:34:27JUST BEING VISIBLE TO KIND OF
2:34:29LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S CHANGING.
2:34:30I THINK THE FIRST TIME THEY
2:34:32SHOULD LEARN ABOUT IT WOULD
2:34:34IDEALLY NOT BE THE TICKET THAT
2:34:35THEY GET RIGHT, WHICH IT
2:34:37HAPPENS EVERYWHERE. IT'S NOT
2:34:39SPECIFIC TO THIS PART OF THE
2:34:39CITY OR EVEN THE CITY, BUT I
2:34:41JUST WANTED TO TO FLAG THAT I
2:34:44WILL MOVE TO REFER IT WITH A
2:34:47DUE PASS RECOMMENDATION.
2:34:49>> OH, THE AMENDMENT.
2:34:49>> NO, THE ORDINANCE.
2:34:50>> THE ORDINANCE. OH THANK YOU.
2:34:52THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND
2:34:54ACTUALLY, PROVIDENCE PARK IS
2:34:57$7.40. OKAY. SO MAYBE THIS IS
2:35:00INFLATION.
2:35:00>> I ALWAYS TAKE THE MAX. SO
2:35:01I'M. YEAH.
2:35:02>> RIGHT, RIGHT. GREAT. SO I
2:35:05HAVE A THE MOTION'S BEEN MOVED
2:35:08BY COUNCILOR KANAL. IS THERE A
2:35:10SECOND?
2:35:13>> SECOND.
2:35:13>> THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN
2:35:16SECONDED BY COUNCILOR SMITH. I
2:35:19AS FAR AS WE CAN HAVE SOME MORE
2:35:21DISCUSSION, BUT I WAS GOING TO
2:35:22ASK PBOT FOR THEIR OPINION
2:35:26ABOUT THE AMENDMENT THAT OUR
2:35:28WITNESS HAS OFFERED UP.
2:35:30>> SO THE AMENDMENT THAT THE
2:35:32WITNESS OFFERED IS VERY SIMILAR
2:35:35TO A. WHAT WE HOPE TO BRING TO
2:35:37YOU AT THE NORTH. NORTH WHEN WE
2:35:39ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE NORTH
2:35:40NORTHEAST PARKING PLAN AND ITS
2:35:43COMPLETE FORM. WHETHER OR NOT
2:35:47YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THAT TODAY,
2:35:49WITHOUT THE PRESENTATION AND
2:35:50FULL DISCUSSION OF THE NORTH
2:35:51AND NORTHEAST PARKING PLAN, IS
2:35:54IS REALLY UP TO YOU AS AS THE
2:35:56COUNCIL.
2:35:56>> KRISTEN, WHEN DO YOU INTEND
2:35:58TO BRING THAT.
2:35:58>> IT'S READY TO BRING TO YOU.
2:36:00WE'RE IT'S BEEN A MINUTE SINCE
2:36:02WE FINISHED IT. AND SO RALEIGH
2:36:04HAS ACTUALLY BEEN DOING A BIT
2:36:05MORE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT TO
2:36:07MAKE SURE STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAVE
2:36:08MOVED INTO THE AREA SINCE WE
2:36:10COMPLETED OUR OUTREACH ARE
2:36:12AWARE OF THE PLAN AND HOW IT
2:36:13WILL IMPACT THEM. SO WE WOULD,
2:36:16I THINK IN OUR PERFECT WORLD,
2:36:17WE WOULD FINISH THAT OUTREACH
2:36:18OVER THE NEXT 6 TO 8 WEEKS AND
2:36:21COME BACK TO YOU, I THINK
2:36:22PROBABLY IN JANUARY, GIVEN WHAT
2:36:24HOW WE UNDERSTAND YOUR CURRENT
2:36:27AGENDAS, BUT WE COULD BE READY
2:36:29TO COME BACK SOONER IF YOU'D
2:36:30LIKE.
2:36:31>> WELL I'M OPEN. SHOULD
2:36:32SOMEONE LIKE TO MOVE THAT
2:36:35AMENDMENT?
2:36:37>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT A
2:36:39BUNCH OF THE CONCERNS THAT
2:36:40COMMISSIONER KANAL IS BRINGING
2:36:42UP, WE RIGHT NOW HAVE LIKE AN
2:36:43AD HOC EMAIL LIST WHERE WE TALK
2:36:45ABOUT THESE THINGS. WE CREATE A
2:36:46COMMITTEE WOULD BE ACTUALLY
2:36:48QUITE HELPFUL TO ADDRESS ALL
2:36:49THOSE CONCERNS IN A MORE
2:36:50STRUCTURED WAY. SO IF THAT'S.
2:36:52>> LET'S STAY ON POINT HERE. SO
2:36:55I DON'T SEE ANYBODY OFFERING
2:36:58WHAT OH, I'M SORRY, IN THE
2:37:00QUEUE. I FORGOT THE QUEUE. HOW
2:37:02ABOUT COUNCILOR GREEN GETS AN
2:37:04OPPORTUNITY.
2:37:05>> THANK YOU. CHAIR CLARK I WAS
2:37:07GOING TO ASK COUNCILOR KANAL,
2:37:10WHO IS THE ONLY MEMBER OF THE
2:37:12COMMITTEE WHO LIVES IN THE
2:37:13DISTRICT, WHAT YOUR APPETITE IS
2:37:14FOR THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. YOU
2:37:16THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE AT THIS
2:37:17TIME?
2:37:18>> YEAH, I, I.
2:37:21>> IT'S NOT ABOUT THE TIME.
2:37:22IT'S ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE
2:37:23VEHICLE. I JUST WANT TO BE
2:37:25CLEAR ABOUT THAT. I THINK THAT
2:37:26THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN
2:37:28THE PLAN. SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING
2:37:29AT THERE'S THREE THINGS THAT
2:37:31WERE FLOATED IN HERE. YOU KNOW,
2:37:32ONE IS ON AUTHORIZATION TO
2:37:36IMPLEMENT THE THE PLAN, WHICH I
2:37:38THINK IS THE BROADER
2:37:39CONVERSATION THAT OUR STAFF WAS
2:37:40JUST TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF
2:37:42DOING THAT. THE SECOND THING IS
2:37:45APPOINTING A STAKEHOLDER
2:37:46COMMITTEE. THE THIRD THING I
2:37:48THINK IS, IS FAIR TO TALK ABOUT
2:37:50THE IDEA THAT WHETHER OR NOT
2:37:52COUNCIL NEEDS TO APPROVE ANY
2:37:54FURTHER METER OR PERMIT
2:37:56PROGRAMS, I THINK THAT'S
2:37:57ALREADY EFFECTIVELY IN PLACE IN
2:37:59TERMS OF WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE
2:38:01RATES, RIGHT? SO IF THERE IS A
2:38:03NEW PROGRAM, NO PROBLEM WITH
2:38:05THAT PIECE. BUT IN TERMS OF A
2:38:07COMMITTEE, OBVIOUSLY I HAVE
2:38:09EXPRESSED NOT BASED ON BEING IN
2:38:11DISTRICT TWO, BUT JUST MY
2:38:12EXPERIENCE WITH COMMITTEES OF
2:38:13WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT
2:38:15RIGHT. AND THEN THE SECOND
2:38:17PIECE IS I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR
2:38:18THE FULL CONVERSATION. I THINK
2:38:20THERE'S THERE'S A LOT MORE IN
2:38:22THERE. IT IS A VERY LONG
2:38:23DOCUMENT. THAT'S FAIR.
2:38:24>> SO WE WILL RESCHEDULE. I
2:38:26DON'T KNOW, ACTING DIRECTOR
2:38:28JUST STEPPED UP, I THINK WANTS
2:38:29TO MAYBE MAKE A COMMENT.
2:38:31>> YES, I'M INTERIM DIRECTOR
2:38:33WENDY CULLY FOR PBOT, AND I
2:38:35JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WE
2:38:37WOULD BE GLAD TO BRING THIS
2:38:38BACK TO YOU AFTER REALLY
2:38:40FINISHES HER OUTREACH. THERE'S
2:38:43SOME IT'S BEEN A COMPLICATED
2:38:45PLAN, AND WE'VE PUT A LOT OF
2:38:47EFFORT INTO IT AND JUST WANT TO
2:38:48MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COMPLETE.
2:38:50SO WOULD APPRECIATE THE EXTRA
2:38:51TIME TO BRING.
2:38:52>> THIS BACK. THANK YOU.
2:38:53COUNCILOR KANAL. COUNCILOR. DO
2:38:54YOU HAVE ANY?
2:38:54>> YEAH, YEAH, I STILL HAVE
2:38:56SOME DISCUSSION HERE, SO. I
2:38:58HEARD I, I THINK WHAT I'M
2:39:01WORRIED ABOUT IS, AND I DON'T
2:39:02THINK THIS IS THE INTENT OF THE
2:39:04BUREAU, BUT YOU KNOW, EIGHT
2:39:06WEEKS BECOMES MAYBE TEN WEEKS.
2:39:08AND THEN I FEEL LIKE THERE'S
2:39:11BEEN A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT ON
2:39:12THIS PROBABLY HITHERTO TO DATE.
2:39:14AND I WONDER IF THERE'S JUST
2:39:17SOME APPETITE TO PUT SOME
2:39:19DECLARATIVE LANGUAGE THAT LIKE,
2:39:20THERE'S A TIME CERTAIN THIS
2:39:21COMES BACK MAYBE BEFORE THE END
2:39:22OF THE CALENDAR YEAR OR
2:39:23SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T
2:39:25KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT ON THE
2:39:27FLY, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
2:39:28CAN HAPPEN AFTER THIS COMMITTEE,
2:39:29BEFORE COUNCIL.
2:39:30>> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TIME
2:39:32ON OUR AGENDA.
2:39:33>> OKAY. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU
2:39:35WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. I AM
2:39:36GOING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT TO DO
2:39:38BEFORE THIS GOES TO THE FULL
2:39:40BODY, TO PUT SOME SORT OF
2:39:41ASSURING LANGUAGE IN THAT WE'RE
2:39:42NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF LIKE, WE
2:39:44WANT TO MOVE FAST. WE REALLY DO.
2:39:46AND BUT I'M GOING TO RESPECT
2:39:47THAT. IT'S YOUR DISTRICT.
2:39:49COUNCILOR KANAL. SO MAYBE I'LL
2:39:50TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT OFFLINE
2:39:52BEFORE WE. BUT SO I'LL SUPPORT
2:39:53THIS GETTING OUT OF COMMITTEE.
2:39:55BUT THEN I THINK I WANT TO MAKE
2:39:57SURE THAT WE CAN MAYBE ADD
2:39:58SOMETHING BEFORE THE FULL
2:39:59COUNCIL.
2:40:00>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.
2:40:02ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE
2:40:04A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IT'S
2:40:05BEEN MOVED BY COUNCILOR KANAL,
2:40:07SECONDED BY COUNCILOR SMITH. IF
2:40:08THERE'S NOT ANY MORE DISCUSSION.
2:40:10>> SECONDS.
2:40:11>> OKAY. WE'RE RUNNING BEHIND.
2:40:12JUST A MORNING.
2:40:13>> SO, YEAH, FIRST JUST ONE. I
2:40:16WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON LAZY DAYS
2:40:18AND THE SIGNAGE AND ALL THAT
2:40:19STUFF, AND I'D LOVE A BRIEFING
2:40:21WITH YOU ON THAT. SECONDLY,
2:40:23JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT,
2:40:24THAT WE'RE I AGREE WITH THE
2:40:26IDEA OF ENSURING THAT THERE'S A
2:40:27TIMELINE PURSUANT TO WHATEVER,
2:40:28YOU KNOW, LIMITATIONS WE HAVE
2:40:30ON THE SCHEDULE. I DO WANT TO
2:40:31HAVE THE BIG CONVERSATION. I
2:40:33THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT
2:40:34OF STAKEHOLDERS WHO WANT TO BE
2:40:35INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATION
2:40:37WHEN WE GET TO THAT PLAN. AND I
2:40:38THINK BEFORE THE END OF THE
2:40:40YEAR IS, IS, IS A WOULD BE A
2:40:42GOAL FOR ME IF IT NEEDS TILL
2:40:44JANUARY. I, YOU KNOW, I
2:40:45UNDERSTAND, BUT IT IS ALSO
2:40:46COMPLICATED WITH OUR SCHEDULE
2:40:47SITUATION CHANGING. THANKS.
2:40:49>> THANK YOU. AND WE'LL TAKE A
2:40:50LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE. COUNCILOR
2:40:52GREEN I'LL TAKE IT. WE'LL TAKE
2:40:54ANOTHER LOOK. GREAT. THERE'S NO
2:40:57FURTHER DISCUSSION. DIANA,
2:40:59WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
2:41:02>> GREEN? I SMITH. I KANAL I
2:41:10KOYAMA LANE I CLARK I WITH FIVE
2:41:13EYES. THE MOTION TO REFER THE
2:41:14ORDINANCE DOCUMENT NUMBER
2:41:172026-364 TO THE CITY COUNCIL
2:41:19WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO BE
2:41:20PASSED, HAS PASSED.
2:41:21>> GREAT. THANK YOU ALL. THANK
2:41:23YOU FOR ALL YOUR GOOD WORK. I
2:41:24APPRECIATE IT AND I'M SURE
2:41:26WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN POTENTIALLY
2:41:29SOON. DIANA, WOULD YOU PLEASE
2:41:32CALL OR READ THE NEXT ITEM?
2:41:35>> ITEM NUMBER FOUR. DOCUMENT
2:41:36NUMBER 2026-365. AUTHORIZE THE
2:41:42ACCEPTANCE OF REAL PROPERTY
2:41:43FROM THE OREGON DEPARTMENT OF
2:41:46TRANSPORTATION AND APPROVE A
2:41:47MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR
2:41:49FUTURE PROPERTY TRANSACTIONS.
2:41:53>> THIS ORDINANCE ACCEPTS THE
2:41:55TRANSFER FROM AN ODOT OWNED
2:41:57PARCEL OF LAND TO THE CITY.
2:41:59IT'S LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE
2:42:01INTERSECTION OF SOUTHWEST NAITO
2:42:03PARKWAY AND SOUTH SHERMAN
2:42:05STREET. IT ALSO APPROVES AN MOU
2:42:07BETWEEN THE CITY AND ODOT FOR
2:42:09FUTURE PROPERTY TRANSACTIONS.
2:42:10SO WITH THAT, DAVID, YOU WANT
2:42:13TO TAKE OVER.
2:42:15>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING,
2:42:18COUNCILOR CHAIR CLARK AND
2:42:20COUNCILORS. MY NAME IS DAVID
2:42:22MCELDOWNEY. I AM PBOT, EXCUSE
2:42:24ME, REAL PROPERTY SERVICES
2:42:27DIVISION MANAGER. AND I'M
2:42:28JOINED BY KEVIN BALLOCK, WHO'S
2:42:30A SUPERVISOR IN THE PROPERTY
2:42:31MANAGEMENT SECTION. DO YOU WANT
2:42:35TO GET THE PRESENTATION UP ON
2:42:36THE SCREEN?
2:42:42>> IT'S NOT LETTING ME SHARE
2:42:44HERE.
2:42:46>> SO WHEN THE PRESENTATION
2:42:48GETS UP THERE, WE'LL HAVE A MAP.
2:42:50I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A
2:42:51LITTLE ADDITIONAL ORIENTATION
2:42:56HERE. DO WE HAVE IT?
2:43:06>> WE ALL HAVE IT HANDY.
2:43:08>> OKAY, GREAT. SO WHILE YOU
2:43:12CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT, AS
2:43:16COUNCILOR CLARK MENTIONED. YES,
2:43:18HERE WE GO. THE PROPERTY IS
2:43:20BOUNDED BY SOUTHWEST NATO. THE
2:43:25THE PICTURE THE LEFT HAND IS IS
2:43:28NORTH AND RIGHT HAND IS SOUTH.
2:43:31TOP OF THE PICTURE IS EAST. I
2:43:35405 IS JUST OFF TO THE RIGHT OF
2:43:38THE PHOTO. THERE. THE ORDINANCE
2:43:42THAT PBOT IS BRINGING TODAY
2:43:44INVOLVES THE MOU WITH ODOT THAT
2:43:47CONTEMPLATES THE TRANSFER OF
2:43:48LAND TO THE CITY, AS WELL AS
2:43:50FUTURE PROPERTY TRANSFERS. I
2:43:53BELIEVE THE COMMITTEE IS
2:43:54FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THESE
2:43:55PARCELS FROM A PREVIOUS TRADE
2:43:56THAT WE HAD WITH ODOT THAT
2:43:59RESULTED IN THE EXPANSION OF
2:44:00THE SAFE REST VILLAGE, WHICH
2:44:02YOU CAN SEE THERE AT THE BOTTOM
2:44:03OF THE SCREEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE
2:44:05OF NAITO PARKWAY. I'LL COVER
2:44:07SOME HISTORY REALLY QUICKLY
2:44:10HERE. KEVIN, I THINK I HAVE THE
2:44:12SLIDES OUT OF ORDER. IF YOU'LL
2:44:14GO TO SLIDE THREE, PLEASE, ONE
2:44:16MORE.
2:44:17>> THAT'S ON THERE.
2:44:18>> ONE MORE. ONE MORE. THERE WE
2:44:28GO. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE
2:44:30PARCELS WERE DISCUSSING TODAY
2:44:31WERE FORMALLY APPROVED WITH THE
2:44:33HARBOR FREEWAY, WHICH WAS
2:44:34REMOVED IN 1970. THE MAJORITY
2:44:37OF THE FORMER FREEWAY LAND WAS
2:44:39JOINTLY OWNED BY ODOT AND THE
2:44:41CITY. SO IN ORDER TO ASSEMBLE
2:44:44THE LAND NEEDED FOR THE SAFE
2:44:45REST VILLAGE, THE TWO AGENCIES
2:44:47TRADED PROPERTY RIGHTS IN 2021
2:44:49AND 2025. PRESENTLY, ODOT AND
2:44:53PBOT HAVE REACHED A TENTATIVE
2:44:54AGREEMENT IN WHICH THE STATE
2:44:56WILL TRANSFER TO THE CITY TWO
2:44:58PARCELS OF LAND ADJACENT TO THE
2:45:00INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL. KEVIN, IF
2:45:01YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE TWO, THESE
2:45:04ARE THE TWO PARCELS THEY SIT IN
2:45:06BETWEEN THE INTERNATIONAL
2:45:07SCHOOL PROPERTY AND NATO
2:45:09PARKWAY. THE SLIDE. THE SLIDE
2:45:15SHOWS THE TWO PARCELS OF LAND
2:45:17THAT WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY
2:45:18TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY IF THE
2:45:20ORDINANCE IS PASSED. AND IF
2:45:22THEY LOOK FAMILIAR, THAT'S
2:45:24THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD TRADED
2:45:25OUR 60% UNDIVIDED INTEREST TO
2:45:27THE STATE IN THE LAST TRADE TO
2:45:29SECURE THE REST OF THE LAND FOR
2:45:31THE SAFE REST VILLAGE. PBOT IS
2:45:34AN ANTICIPATE IS ANTICIPATING
2:45:35THAT IF THE ORDINANCE IS
2:45:37APPROVED, THE CITY WILL RESUME
2:45:38OUR PRIOR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
2:45:40INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL AS IT
2:45:41RELATES TO STEWARDSHIP OF THIS
2:45:43LAND. WHILE LONG TERM OPTIONS
2:45:45ARE EVALUATED. SLIDE FOUR
2:45:48PLEASE. OKAY. THIS IS FOR.
2:45:57THERE WE GO. THANK YOU.
2:45:58FOLLOWING THE INITIAL PROPERTY
2:46:00TRANSFER, THE HEART OF THE MOU
2:46:02ADDRESSES THE REMAINING LANDS
2:46:03WHICH YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN.
2:46:05NOW, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE
2:46:07PROPERTY ON THE NORTH END IS
2:46:08OWNED 100% BY ODOT, WHILE THE
2:46:11OTHER PARCELS ARE JOINTLY OWNED
2:46:146040, WITH THE CITY HAVING 60%
2:46:16AND THE STATE HAVING 40%. THE
2:46:19MOU PROVIDES THE CITY WITH
2:46:21OPTIONS TO EITHER A COMPLETELY
2:46:24ACQUIRE ODOT'S PROPERTY
2:46:25INTERESTS THROUGH CASH PURCHASE,
2:46:28B TRADE THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OR
2:46:30TRADE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF
2:46:32EQUIVALENT VALUE WITH ODOT TO
2:46:34DECOUPLE JOINT OWNERSHIP. WHAT
2:46:35THAT MAY LOOK LIKE IS ODOT
2:46:37WOULD OWN SOME OF THE LAND WE
2:46:38WOULD OWN. YOU KNOW, ANOTHER
2:46:40PART OF THAT LAND OR C DECOUPLE
2:46:43JOINT OWNERSHIP THROUGH A
2:46:45COMBINATION OF PROPERTY RIGHTS
2:46:46AND CASH. ALL THREE OPTIONS
2:46:49WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO LAND
2:46:50BANK THESE PARCELS FOR FUTURE
2:46:52USE. THE PROPERTIES WOULD BE
2:46:54APPRAISED TO DETERMINE THE
2:46:56MARKET VALUE. SLIDE FIVE. PBOT
2:46:59IS REQUESTING THAT THE
2:47:00COMMITTEE MOVE FORWARD THE OR
2:47:02MOVE THE ORDINANCE FORWARD TO
2:47:03THE FULL COUNCIL, AND THAT THE
2:47:06COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE CITY
2:47:08ADMINISTRATOR TO APPROVE AND
2:47:09ACCEPT THE TRANSFER DEED FROM
2:47:11ODOT FOR THE TWO PARCELS NEXT
2:47:12TO THE INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL. WE
2:47:15ARE RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL
2:47:16AUTHORIZE PBOT TO PURSUE THE
2:47:18TERMS OF THE MOU AND IF THE
2:47:20PROPERTY TRADES ARE RECOMMENDED
2:47:23UNDER OPTIONS B OR C, RETURN TO
2:47:25COUNCIL AND SEEK AUTHORIZATION
2:47:26FOR SUCH TRANSITION ACTIONS.
2:47:29THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
2:47:31WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
2:47:32QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
2:47:33>> THANK YOU DAVID. COUNCILOR
2:47:35SMITH, THANK YOU.
2:47:39>> THANK YOU FOR THE
2:47:40PRESENTATION. WHAT IS THE
2:47:46POTENTIAL FOR AFFORDABLE OR
2:47:48WORKFORCE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY?
2:47:50>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
2:47:52I DON'T KNOW IF THE REPORT EVER
2:47:54CAME OUT, BUT THERE WAS A DRAFT
2:47:57REPORT HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS
2:47:58AGO THAT EVALUATED CITY OWNED
2:48:02PROPERTIES. AND THESE
2:48:03PROPERTIES WERE, I DON'T KNOW,
2:48:06IN THE TOP 15 OR 20, WHATEVER
2:48:08IT WAS, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
2:48:11PROPERTIES, NOT THE TWO BY THE
2:48:12INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL PER SE,
2:48:13BUT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU
2:48:15SAW IN THAT LAST SLIDE, THEY AS
2:48:21FAR AS THE COST, I CAN'T ANSWER
2:48:24THAT QUESTION FOR YOU. THAT
2:48:25WOULD BE A PORTLAND HOUSING
2:48:26BUREAU QUESTION, BUT I DO KNOW
2:48:28THAT THEY WERE HIGH ON THE ON
2:48:30THE LIST FOR CANDIDATES.
2:48:37>> COUNCILOR KANAL.
2:48:37>> THANKS, CHAIR. CLERK JUST A
2:48:39PROCESS QUESTION ON THIS FOR
2:48:40THE IN.
2:48:41>> THE MOU. THE TRANSFER MAKES
2:48:44PERFECT SENSE TO ME AND I
2:48:45APPRECIATE IT. AND I APPRECIATE
2:48:47YOU BEING HERE AND ALL THE WORK
2:48:48ON THE MOU. THERE'S PART FIVE,
2:48:51WHICH IS ON INABILITY TO
2:48:52PERFORM. AND IT'S WHAT HAPPENS
2:48:53IF WE CAN'T AGREE AND IT SAYS
2:48:56TRANSFERRING IT BACK. WHY WAS
2:48:57THE DEFAULT TRANSFERRING IT
2:48:58BACK AS OPPOSED TO JUST PAYING
2:49:00THE, THE APPRAISED VALUE?
2:49:03>> IF WE PAY THE APPRAISED
2:49:06VALUE, THEN THERE'S NO NEED.
2:49:07THERE IS NO DEFAULT. I MEAN,
2:49:09THAT IS AN OPTION THAT THAT
2:49:10WOULD FALL IN. ONE OF THE OTHER
2:49:12OPTIONS THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU.
2:49:14SO.
2:49:15>> SO MAYBE OUTSIDE OF THE
2:49:16SCOPE OF THIS, IT SOUNDS LIKE
2:49:18THE PREFERRED OPTION IS TRADING
2:49:19LAND THOUGH.
2:49:20>> WELL, I'VE HEARD INTEREST IN
2:49:22THE CITY ACQUIRING ALL OF THE
2:49:24LAND, ALL OF THE OWNERSHIP AND
2:49:26LAND BANKING THAT. YEAH. BUT
2:49:30THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE REALLY IF
2:49:32THE CITY IS UNABLE TO COME UP
2:49:34WITH THE FUNDS TO DO THAT, THEN
2:49:36THAT PROVIDES US OPTIONS TO,
2:49:38YOU KNOW, TRADE AWAY PORTIONS
2:49:40OF THAT LAND. AND THE REALITY
2:49:42OF IT IS IF WE DID THAT, YOU'D
2:49:44STILL HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT THE
2:49:46APPLE BECAUSE OF THE. AND I
2:49:47KNOW COUNCILOR CLARK'S VERY
2:49:49FAMILIAR WITH THE STATE'S RULES
2:49:52SURROUNDING SURPLUS PROPERTY,
2:49:55BUT WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER CRACK
2:49:57TO ACQUIRE THAT FROM THE STATE
2:49:58AT THAT POINT. BUT IT SHOULDN'T
2:50:01NEED TO TO GO THAT FAR. THIS IS
2:50:03JUST IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE A
2:50:06AN OPTION IN A MOU OR ANY
2:50:08AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO
2:50:10RESET THINGS. IF YOU CAN'T
2:50:12REACH AGREEMENT.
2:50:13>> THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, I
2:50:14GUESS JUST I APPRECIATE THIS
2:50:15BECAUSE CLEAR CONTROL OF THESE
2:50:17SITES IS, IS A GOOD IT'S A CITY
2:50:19INTEREST, I THINK, TO OPEN THE
2:50:20DOOR TO FUTURE AFFORDABLE
2:50:21HOUSING OR SOCIAL HOUSING
2:50:23DEVELOPMENT. SO WE'D LOVE TO,
2:50:24TO DO THAT. AND I KNOW MANY OF
2:50:26US CARE ABOUT LAND BANKING A
2:50:27LOT. THANKS.
2:50:28>> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR. KANAL.
2:50:29COUNCILOR GREEN. DO YOU HAVE A
2:50:31QUESTION OR COMMENT?
2:50:32>> NO, I'D JUST LIKE TO MOVE TO
2:50:33REFER THIS TO THE FULL COUNCIL
2:50:35WITH OUR DUE PASS
2:50:36RECOMMENDATION.
2:50:37>> SECOND.
2:50:37>> SECOND. TERRIFIC. IT'S BEEN
2:50:38MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR
2:50:41GREENE AND COUNCILOR KANAL. I
2:50:43DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY
2:50:44SIGNED UP TO TESTIFY ON THIS,
2:50:47DO WE?
2:50:48>> NO ONE SIGNED UP.
2:50:49>> GREAT. IF THERE'S NOT ANY
2:50:52FURTHER DISCUSSION, WILL THE
2:50:54CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
2:50:57>> GREEN. AYE, MORILLO SMITH.
2:51:00AYE, MORILLO KANAL. AYE,
2:51:02MORILLO KOYAMA LANE. I CLARK I.
2:51:07AND WITH FIVE EYES. THE MOTION
2:51:09TO REFER THE ORDINANCE DOCUMENT
2:51:10NUMBER 2026-365 TO THE CITY
2:51:13COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION
2:51:15THAT BE PASSED, HAS BEEN
2:51:16APPROVED.
2:51:17>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU DAVID.
2:51:18THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR BEING
2:51:19HERE. I KNOW IT'S BEEN KIND OF
2:51:21AN ARDUOUS, ARDUOUS DEAL.
2:51:23APPRECIATE YOUR TIME,
2:51:26COLLEAGUES. LOOK AT US. WE
2:51:27CAUGHT UP. WE'RE WE'RE A GOOD
2:51:30TEAM. OUR NEXT MEETING IS IN
2:51:32TWO WEEKS. WHAT? YOU'RE
2:51:35LAUGHING.
2:51:36>> AT ME, I LIKE IT. WE JUST
2:51:38GOT A GOLD STAR.
2:51:39>> WE ARE. IT'S. CALL ME
2:51:40TEACHER CLARK. YEAH, WE'RE
2:51:43GOING TO RECONVENE ON OCTOBER
2:51:46THE 27TH, AND WE'LL CONTINUE
2:51:47THE DISCUSSION OF AUTONOMOUS
2:51:48VEHICLES. WE WILL HAVE PROBABLY
2:51:51SOME MORE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS
2:51:52FROM PBOT. I'M THINKING WE'LL
2:51:55SEE. WHAT IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER
2:51:57TIME FOR OTHER THINGS THAT CAME
2:51:58UP TODAY. SO IF THERE'S NOT ANY
2:52:01OTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL
2:52:03ADJOURN THE MEETING OF THE
2:52:05PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.
