2026-09-10 - Council Committees Day 2

Summary

Built from the City's posted agenda and the video captions. No minutes are posted.

  • People, Parks and Public Works (called to order at 4:05 PM) moved Int. 333 to 348 by voice vote with no opposition heard.
  • Int. 333: $32,000 from the 2024 Safe Streets and Roads for All grant, a $23.7 million federal grant with a local match of about $5.9 million; about $1 million is for planning and demonstration work, and the rest is for corridor projects now in design, with North Clinton Avenue to be bid later this year. See Safe Streets for All.
  • Int. 334: the Stone Street reconstruction will make the street two-way from Broad Street to the South Avenue garage entrance and one-way northbound north of that, about the upper third.
  • Int. 335: state transportation funds above what was budgeted, because the state budget passed late; staff said the money is for road reconstruction and paving, not potholes.
  • Int. 337: a $15,000 increase for the MLK Jr. Memorial Park playground renovation tied to contractor delays; the city intends to recover the cost from the contractor. Staff would not give an exact completion date.
  • Int. 338 and 339: an $850,000 bond and an agreement for the Rundel Memorial Library elevator modernization.
  • Int. 341 and 342: a grant agreement and a $14 million bond for the federal-law-funded lead service line replacement project. See Lead Service Line Replacement Funding.
  • A member asked why two organizations were missing from outreach for the Youth Climate Action Fund grant (Int. 340); staff would check and notify them.
  • Public Safety passed Int. 349 to 351, covering carryover of unspent police grant funds, an explosives storage agreement with Monroe County and reappointment of Police Accountability Board members. See Police Accountability Board Reappointments.
  • In the board's report, the director said data access talks with the police had been productive, with a meeting planned at the public safety building to set parameters for trend data. See Police Accountability Board Data Access.
  • Committee of the Whole held Int. 352 (new Zoning Code and Zoning Map) and referred it to the Budget, Finance and Governance Committee for public hearings, planned for October 21 and 22 at 5 p.m. Community forums in each quadrant of the city are to follow, a work session with a consultant is looked at for October 8, a staff report is due October 9, and the public hearing is set for Thursday, November 12 at 6 p.m. Council will not vote before November, possibly December. A member said the independent expert they expected had not been described as planned. Int. 353 was a temporary moratorium on zoning amendment applications. See Zoning Alignment Project and New Zoning Code.

Agenda

See the posted agenda: https://www.cityofrochester.gov/sites/default/files/2026-09/September%2010%2C%202026%20Committee%20Agenda%20-%20Day%202_1.pdf

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Transcript

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Transcript

05:37Good afternoon everyone. I

05:39apologize for keeping you

05:40waiting. So at five after four,

05:47I call the people Parks and

05:50Public Works Committee to order

05:52and ask the deputy clerk to

05:53call the roll.

05:55>> Council member Monroe here.

05:58Council member Gruber here.

06:00Council member. Patterson. Vice

06:02president. Harris. Excuse.

06:04President Melendez here. Thank

06:06you.

06:09>> So there are no presentation

06:10scheduled for today's committee

06:12meeting, and I will proceed

06:13with the legislative agenda.

06:16Introductory number 333,

06:18authorizing appropriations

06:20related to the 2024 Safe

06:23Streets and Roads for all

06:25planning demonstration project.

06:30Are there any. Yes. Council

06:32member Gruber.

06:33>> Thanks. Last, a question

06:35about the specific legislation

06:37and more about the grant in

06:38general, just for. Just for

06:43kind of total transparency, we.

06:46AM I correct that we had two

06:47safe streets and roads for all

06:49grants approved by the feds?

06:54>> Yes. That's correct.

06:57>> And this $32,000 is a, I

06:59assume, a very, very, very

07:01small portion of one of those

07:03grants. Can you just clarify

07:04what is the total dollar amount

07:06in the two buckets? And where

07:07does this fall in?

07:10>> Sure. So this comes from the

07:122024 Safe Streets and Roads for

07:14all grant. It's a $23.7 million

07:17federal grant with a local

07:19match of about 5.9 million. The

07:22majority of that goes toward

07:24for corridor improvement

07:26projects, but a small portion

07:29of it, about $1 million, is for

07:31various planning and

07:32demonstration work. And that

07:34$32,000 comes from that.

07:36>> Thanks. And the the, the the

07:38majority of the money goes for

07:41corridors, which I, the DS has

07:43presented on. And we've gotten

07:44plenty of information on in the

07:45past. That work is in the

07:47design phase right now.

07:50>> For the majority of it,

07:51we're in the design procurement

07:52phase. So we're we're in the

07:54process of getting design

07:56consultants under agreement to

07:57begin the design. Yes. One of

07:59the projects is already under

08:01design with local funds, and

08:03the funding would go toward

08:04construction. So that would be

08:06bid later this year.

08:08>> Great. Thank you.

08:13>> Any other questions? Yes,

08:14Mr. President.

08:15>> Yes. Thank you. Chair. So

08:17the one that's under

08:19construction or going to be

08:20under construction or bid on is

08:22that North Clinton Avenue just

08:23for clarity, correct. All right.

08:25Thank you.

08:28>> Any other questions or

08:29concerns?

08:31>> So moved. Second.

08:36>> All those in favor say I. I

08:38the motion carries.

08:45Introductory number 334.

08:47Authorizing an agreement and

08:49appropriating funds for the

08:50removal of an area way as part

08:52of the Stone Street

08:54Reconstruction Project. Any

08:56questions? Yes. Council member

08:59Gruber.

08:59>> Thanks. So, Stonestreet, my

09:03my understanding is there has

09:04been some back and forth during

09:07the design phase about moving

09:09to one way, keeping the street

09:11two ways. Just want to

09:12understand where we landed.

09:16>> Yep. That's correct. The

09:18street before construction was

09:22two way. It was one way back,

09:27maybe about eight years ago,

09:31but it got converted to two way

09:33at the time. And we are going

09:35back. What we landed on was one

09:38way northbound. I'm sorry, two

09:40two way from Broad Street to

09:44the South Avenue garage

09:45entrance, which is also the

09:47entrance to the Metropolitan

09:48Building. Two driveways there.

09:51So coming out of those

09:52driveways, you can go either

09:53north or south and then to the

09:56north of that there are no

09:57driveways, so it's northbound

09:59only. So about the upper two

10:01upper one third would be one

10:02way northbound, and the lower

10:05two thirds of the street would

10:06be two way.

10:07>> Thanks. And that's the

10:08that's the final determination.

10:10That's what's been communicated.

10:11That's moving forward.

10:13>> That's correct.

10:14>> Okay. Thank you. Yep.

10:17>> Any other questions? Seeing

10:19none. Can I have a motion?

10:21>> So moved.

10:23>> Second.

10:25>> Now we can go to the vote.

10:27All in favor, say aye.

10:29>> Aye.

10:29>> Those against, say nay.

10:32Motion passes. Introductory

10:37number 335. Appropriating New

10:39York State Department of

10:41Transportation funds and

10:42amending the 2020 627 budget.

10:44Any questions?

10:46>> Move it!

10:48>> Sorry. Sorry, Mike.

10:50>> Council member. Gruber.

10:51>> Apologies. Is this just

10:52formula based? Like how.

10:53Where's the 410 come from? And

10:58is the formula based on the

10:59number of potholes? Because

11:00that would be that'd be.

11:02>> Now the state budget was

11:04passed so late that the numbers

11:06that we had in the proposed and

11:08approved budget was less than

11:11what the state actually

11:12afforded us.

11:14>> The state gave us more.

11:17>> Than what we had in the

11:18proposed budget. If you

11:19remember, the state had not

11:21passed their budget.

11:22>> But in terms of the. So the

11:24410 is to help with paving and

11:26fixing potholes, etc. is it. Is

11:29it just. Does each municipality

11:31get a. Is it a formula based.

11:33Or are we. Are we applying for

11:35it? How is the dollar amount

11:37determined?

11:37>> It's formula based. So it's

11:39a total amount of over $8

11:42million for all these grants.

11:44The Chips program, the pave,

11:46our potholes, the paved New

11:48York right. And so the the

11:51amount that we appropriated in

11:52the budget, this is just the

11:55excess that we did not budget

11:56for. Got it.

11:58>> Got it. Okay. Thank you.

11:59>> Just a point of

12:01clarification. Those funds are

12:03not pothole money. It is for

12:05road reconstruction. It's

12:07always a disclaimer that you

12:09can use for potholes that

12:11cannot be. It can be used for

12:13street reconstruction, chip

12:15seal and so forth, but not for

12:17potholes.

12:17>> Okay. Thanks.

12:22>> Any other questions? And we

12:26can let the record show that

12:28we've been joined by both

12:29Council Member Martin and

12:30Lubian. So I had a first. Can I

12:35have a second?

12:36>> Second?

12:37>> All those in favor, say I.

12:39>> I.

12:40>> I those against say nay.

12:44Item passes. Introductory

12:48number 336. Amending ordinance

12:54number 2026-126. Amending

12:59resolution number 2020 623 and

13:01authorizing an agreement for

13:02the Mount Hope Cemetery

13:04Historic Fence project.

13:07Questions.

13:09>> Move it.

13:10>> Second.

13:12>> All those in favor, say aye.

13:14Aye. Those in favor, say nay.

13:17The motion carries.

13:20Introductory number 337.

13:23Authorizing and a mandatory

13:24agreement related to the Martin

13:26Luther King Jr Memorial Park

13:28playground renovation questions.

13:32>> Move it.

13:34>> Council president.

13:36>> Yes. So in the transmittal,

13:39it references that there was a

13:42delay that was caused by the

13:44construction firm that is

13:46causing this $15,000 increase

13:48is. That's the way I read it

13:50anyway. And that the

13:53administration intends to get

13:54that money back or recoup the

13:56cost from the construction

13:57contractor. Could we talk

13:59through that a little bit? Why

14:00we would front money that we

14:03would want to recover?

14:14>> So there's been some delays

14:16with the contractor on on this

14:19work. And we would. So we have

14:24a poor service that's

14:25technically overseeing the work.

14:27So with the delays of the

14:29contractor that we require that

14:31our service to stay a little

14:33longer than because of the

14:34delays of the work, we will be

14:36building the contractor who's

14:37supposed who's supposed to be

14:39doing the work for damages.

14:43Associated with the delays of

14:44the work. So that's how we

14:45recoup that.

14:46>> Got it. So it's not. So it's

14:48really the project management

14:50team that.

14:50>> Is.

14:51>> Providing the cost. Okay.

14:52Got it. Thank you.

14:55>> Council Member Gruber.

14:56>> And so what is the timeline

14:59and and like Will will MLK

15:03playground be usable before.

15:07Snowfall?

15:09>> That's the hope

15:10commissioners on it working

15:11with the contractors on a daily

15:13basis. We begin updates every

15:14day on the work. Fencing was

15:16put up recently this past week.

15:20They're very close to finishing

15:23the substantive work. Then we

15:24have to identify the punch list

15:27items. My hope is I don't want

15:29to give an exact timeline

15:30because it's been give and take

15:32between us and the contractor,

15:34but my hope is to have it done

15:35in the near term. But we're

15:37working with them.

15:38>> Thanks.

15:40>> Any additional questions?

15:43Seeing none. May I have a

15:44motion?

15:45>> Move it.

15:46>> Second.

15:47>> All those in favor, say aye.

15:49Aye aye. Those in favor, say

15:51nay. The motion carries.

15:58Introductory number 338. A bond

16:00ordinance of the City of

16:01Rochester, New York,

16:02authorizing the issuance of

16:05$850,000 bonds of said city to

16:07finance a portion of the cost

16:08of the Rundel Memorial Library

16:10elevator modernization project.

16:14Any questions?

16:17>> Move it.

16:18>> Second.

16:20>> All those in favor, say aye.

16:22>> Aye.

16:23>> Those against say nay.

16:25Motion carries. Introductory

16:32number 339. Authorizing a

16:34mandatory agreement for the

16:35Rundel library elevator

16:37modernization project.

16:39Questions.

16:40>> Move it.

16:42>> Second.

16:43>> All those in favor, say aye.

16:44Aye. Those against say nay.

16:48Motion carries. Introductory

16:52number 340. Authorizing a grant

16:54agreement related to the Youth

16:56Climate Action Fund program. I

16:59have one question. I requested

17:01a list of the organizations

17:03that were reached out to

17:04specifically about the grant.

17:06And I noticed that Green Topia

17:07and Slash Green Vision is not

17:11on the list.

17:15>> I'll have to consult with

17:18Shalini to find out why that

17:20was left off of the list.

17:22>> Okay. And then if, if you

17:24could just shoot them a email

17:26to give them a heads up in case

17:28they hadn't heard.

17:29>> Correct? Yes.

17:30>> Thank you very much. Any

17:33other questions?

17:36>> Move it.

17:38>> Second.

17:39>> All those in favor, say aye.

17:41All those in favor, say nay.

17:45The motion carries.

17:48Introductory number 341.

17:51Authorizing grant agreement and

17:53appropriations for the

17:54Infrastructure Investment and

17:56Jobs Act led Service Line

17:58Replacement Project. Federal

18:00Fiscal Year 2025. Any questions?

18:06I have a motion.

18:07>> Move it.

18:09>> Second.

18:10>> All those in favor, say aye.

18:11Aye. Those against say nay. The

18:16motion carries. Introductory

18:21number 342. A bond ordinance of

18:23the City of Rochester, New York,

18:25authorizing the issuance of $14

18:27million bonds of said city to

18:29finance a portion of the costs

18:31of the Infrastructure

18:32Investment and Jobs Act led

18:34service line replacement

18:36project. Federal Fiscal year

18:392025.

18:41>> Move it.

18:43>> Second.

18:43>> All those in favor, say aye.

18:45Aye. Those against say nay.

18:49Motion carries. Introductory

18:52number 343 authorizing the

18:54receipt and use and amending

18:56the 2020 627 budget relating to

18:58the reimbursement of costs to

19:00repair property damage to the

19:02public market. Any questions?

19:07Council member Martin.

19:08>> Just please resend the draft

19:12plan, the drawings, but very

19:14excited to support this.

19:18>> Any other questions? Seeing

19:21none, can I have a motion?

19:23>> Move it.

19:24>> Second. Second.

19:25>> All those in favor say aye.

19:27Aye. Those against say nay.

19:31Motion carries. Introductory

19:34number 344. Authorizing a grant

19:37agreement for the Flower City

19:39AmeriCorps and New York Youth

19:40Mental Health Corps programs.

19:44Questions?

19:46>> Move it. Second.

19:48>> All those in favor say aye.

19:50Aye. Those opposed, say nay.

19:53The motion carries.

19:56Introductory number 345.

19:59Authorizing an agreement

20:00relating to the Victims of

20:02Crime Act Victim and Witness

20:04Assistance Grant program

20:07questions. Yes. Mr. president.

20:11>> Yes. Thank you. And I

20:13appreciate the questions that

20:14were asked by the chair in in

20:16the pre meeting. But could we

20:19get an overview specifically of

20:23crisis intervention services

20:25outcomes that have been

20:27produced? We often hear about

20:29Pic and we hear a lot about the

20:31action team now, but I know

20:33there's a lot more that's

20:34happening in crisis

20:35intervention. And I think it

20:36would be beneficial to the

20:37council to get a full scope of

20:39what other outcomes and other

20:40services we have in that unit.

20:43>> We can provide that to you.

20:45>> Thank you.

20:47>> Additional questions. Seeing

20:51none, can I have a motion?

20:52>> Move it. Second.

20:54>> All those in favor say aye.

20:56Aye. Opposed? Say nay. The

20:59motion carries. Introductory

21:04number 346. Authorizing grant

21:07agreement and appropriation for

21:09public market improvements.

21:11Questions. Can I have a motion?

21:15>> Move it.

21:16>> Second.

21:18>> All those in favor say aye.

21:20Aye. All opposed? Say nay. The

21:24motion carries. Introductory

21:27number 347. Authorizing

21:29agreements and appropriation

21:31for the 2025 Bureau of Justice

21:34Assistance. FY 25 Justice

21:37Assistance Grant program.

21:40Questions.

21:42>> Move it.

21:44>> Can I have a second?

21:46>> Second.

21:47>> All those in favor, say aye.

21:49Aye. Those opposed, say nay.

21:52The motion carries.

21:56Introductory number 348

21:59authorizing an agreement with

22:00Jason Corben. Any questions?

22:05>> Is this 348 or 347?

22:10>> Yeah.

22:12>> 348 sorry. Okay. Thank you.

22:19I'll move it.

22:20>> Second.

22:21>> All those in favor, say aye.

22:23Aye.

22:23>> Aye.

22:25>> Those against say nay. The

22:27motion carries. With no further

22:30business, the people, Parks and

22:32Public Works Committee stands

22:34adjourned.

22:56>> Get them in while you can. I

23:03will leave you alone. I'm just

23:04like. Turn my mic off.

30:17>> At this time, I'd like to

30:18call the public Safety

30:19Committee to order and ask the

30:21deputy clerk to call the roll.

30:23>> Vice President Harris

30:24excused. Council member Gruber,

30:27Council member Leslie Smith

30:28here. Council member Lupien

30:30here. Council member.

30:33>> Martin here.

30:34>> Council member. Monroe.

30:36Council member. Paterson.

30:38Council. Member. Smith.

30:41President. Melendez here. Thank

30:43you.

30:50>> All right. So I'll just

30:54point council members to the

30:55monthly public safety updates.

30:58Thanks to the administration

31:00for providing those. I'm going

31:02to move us into the public

31:05Safety committee business. And

31:08we'll start with introductory

31:09number 349 budget amendment for

31:12the 2020 627 budget of the

31:15Police Department and

31:16distributed. This is amending

31:19the 2020 627 budget to carry

31:22over unspent grant funds for

31:24the Police Department. Any

31:25questions, comments or concerns?

31:30Council Member Martin.

31:32>> Is there a specific reason

31:34why they weren't used in the

31:36initial period? I guess there

31:38was supposed to be spent.

31:44>> I don't know of anything

31:47specifically, but I can ask and

31:49get it back to you in writing.

31:52>> Entertain a motion. It's

31:53been moved and seconded. All in

31:56favor, please say aye. Aye. Any

31:58opposed? Motion carries.

32:03Introductory number 350.

32:04Authorizing an inadmissible

32:06agreement with the County of

32:07Monroe for explosive storage.

32:09Questions. Comments. Concerns.

32:12Entertain a motion. Been moved

32:15and seconded. All in favor,

32:17please say aye. Aye aye. Any

32:19opposed? Motion carries.

32:24Introductory number 351

32:27resolution reappointing.

32:28Members of the Police

32:29Accountability Board. Questions.

32:32Comments. Concerns. I go to

32:33Council Member Martin.

32:37>> Do I ask about the report in

32:39this section or narrowly about

32:40about the item in front.

32:42>> Of us. Oh sure. So you

32:43you're interested in the report.

32:45Okay. Got you.

32:46>> Well no questions.

32:47>> On this. Any additional

32:48questions on 351 seeing none,

32:50I'll entertain a motion. It's

32:52been moved and seconded. All in

32:53favor, please say aye. Aye. Any

32:56opposed? Motion carries. And

32:59now we'll bounce back to the

33:01public safety updates. Council

33:02member Martin.

33:06>> Good afternoon. Director. So

33:11thank you for being here. And

33:13thank you for pretty thorough

33:16report. I just have two

33:18questions. The first one is

33:21about the complaint intake. You

33:24mentioned there were ten in

33:25August and six of them came

33:28through the channels. What

33:32channels were the other four

33:33received through?

33:36>> Good evening. Thank you for

33:37that question. So we get

33:41complaints online so people can

33:43submit that. So we regularly

33:45are looking at the online

33:47portal portal to make sure that

33:49it's accessible, right. That

33:51it's easy. And then also

33:54individuals call in on the

33:57hotline.

33:59>> Gotcha. Okay. Thank you. And

34:01second question. So data access

34:03has been one of the biggest

34:05struggles in every iteration of

34:07the PEB. It appears it is still

34:10a struggle. And I do appreciate

34:11that there is a collaborative

34:13working relationship between

34:14all the entities at the table.

34:18But in the based on the report,

34:19I'm not sure like what the

34:22specifics are. So can you say

34:25more or provide a little more

34:27detail around specific data you

34:28may be looking for and barriers

34:30you may be experiencing?

34:32>> Absolutely. Just a few weeks

34:33ago, and actually, President

34:35Melendez was in the meeting, I

34:37know that Patrick Booth is here.

34:39He was in the meeting. The

34:40chief was in the meeting as

34:42well as two staff members. And

34:44it really comes down to Council

34:46member Martin. We want to look

34:48at trends and patterns. Right.

34:50And so we needed to come to

34:54agreement relative to what that

34:56meant. And so where we landed,

34:59after a 30 minute conversation,

35:01we are going down to the public

35:03safety building. We're going to

35:04meet with the chief Captain

35:06Swetman, and I believe some of

35:07his other staff. And we want to

35:11map out what those parameters

35:13are. And we've been working

35:15back at the Police

35:16Accountability Board to really

35:18make it clear, to articulate

35:20what it is that we are seeking

35:22so that we can grant that

35:24access. We felt that the

35:25meeting was very productive and

35:27that we just needed, again, to

35:30make clear what exactly it is

35:32that we were looking for.

35:34Patrick was agreeable to that.

35:37So I feel very hopeful and very

35:39positive for positive movement.

35:41>> Amazing. Thank you so much.

35:42And Patrick, as these issues go

35:45on, if there are any reasons

35:46why you decide to bar access

35:49based on a request, can you

35:50just please provide it to all

35:52of council in writing? Thank

35:53you and thank you so much for

35:55all your work.

35:56>> Thank you.

35:59>> Any additional questions

36:01related to any of the reports

36:02before we conclude? All right.

36:06With no further business, the

36:07Public Safety Committee stands

36:09adjourned, and we have the

36:11Committee of the whole at 445.

37:42>> They can find.

37:48>> Yeah. No no no no.

45:13>> At this time I'd like to

45:15call the Committee of the whole

45:17to order and ask the deputy

45:18clerk to call the Roll.

45:19>> Council member, Gruber,

45:21Council member Leslie Smith

45:23here. Council member Lupien

45:25here. Council member.

45:27>> Martin here.

45:28>> Council member.

45:29>> Monroe here.

45:30>> Council member. Paterson

45:32here. Council member. Smith.

45:35Vice president. Harris. Excused.

45:37President Melendez here. Thank

45:39you.

45:42>> All right. So before the

45:43council and the committee of

45:45the whole are a couple items.

45:47We have introductory number 352

45:50adoption of a new zoning code

45:51and zoning map. We will be

45:55holding this item, but I will

45:57explain what we're doing here

45:58in a moment. And then we also

46:00have introductory number 353,

46:04establishing a temporary

46:06moratorium on applications to

46:07amend the zoning code and

46:09zoning map. So what we'll be

46:12doing on introductory number

46:14352, we will be having a

46:18extensive public engagement

46:19process regarding the proposed

46:21zoning code and zoning map.

46:24Instead, this item will be

46:26referred to the budget, Finance

46:27and Governance Committee. As

46:28chair, Gruber will lead public

46:30hearings on the proposed zoning

46:32code and map with the

46:34administration, and that will

46:35be held next month in council

46:37chambers. The dates for that,

46:39we're looking at October 21st

46:41and 22nd here at City Hall,

46:45beginning at 5 p.m. and then

46:47the item will also be referred

46:49to the Neighborhood Jobs and

46:50Housing Committee as Chair

46:51Patterson, in conjunction with

46:52each district Council member,

46:55will conduct community forums,

46:57host community forums in each

46:58quad of the city on the

47:01proposed code and map. There

47:04will be at least four meetings

47:07in these in each quad of the

47:09city, and those would start at

47:10the end of this month and into

47:12October. The dates for those

47:14will be confirmed and publicly

47:16released as early as tomorrow,

47:18and we plan to have a. In

47:21addition to the four meetings

47:22we're talking about with

47:23district Council members

47:25leading them, we're expecting

47:26that council members on their

47:28own will also be joining

47:30community meetings or hosting

47:31additional forums outside of

47:32that process. It is our

47:37expectation in terms of

47:38timeline, that we also will

47:40have a work session with one of

47:42the consultants that worked on

47:43this project before coming.

47:45We're looking at October 8th,

47:47but we will confirm that

47:49publicly as well. And then it

47:51is not anticipated that we will

47:53have a public hearing on the

47:55matter until November. So the

47:57public hearing for the zoning

47:59outside of the district forms

48:00that we talked about, the

48:02public hearing will be held on

48:03Thursday, November 12th at 6

48:05p.m. The council will not vote

48:07on the zoning code until at

48:09least November, but possibly

48:11December, pending the public

48:13input and decisions that

48:15council has to make. I will

48:17open it up just to see if

48:18there's any quick questions

48:20about process, and then we will

48:21adjourn. Any questions?

48:22>> Yeah, I think it was my

48:25understanding when we had

48:26initially discussed a plan that

48:28a someone who hadn't worked on

48:29the zoning code, an independent

48:32person would be available to us

48:34to discuss the code. So I'm I

48:38didn't hear that in the list of

48:39things you you mentioned. So I

48:40just wanted to follow up on

48:42that piece.

48:43>> Sure. So the, the consultant

48:47that we're talking about worked

48:49on this, the very front end of

48:51Zap in the previous

48:53administration. I don't think,

48:55to my understanding, has been

48:57involved. And we can get

48:58confirmation from the

49:00administration since the

49:02beginning, but they would be an

49:04outside consultant that would I

49:05don't think they've worked on

49:06our zoning code. And we can ask

49:09maybe the council staff also to

49:11confirm this in any substantive

49:13matter. And in a couple of

49:15years.

49:16>> I'll I'll stay back. But,

49:17but I, yeah, I, I think a, a, a

49:19larger conversation should be

49:21had. This is my first time

49:22hearing that cameras would be

49:24the, the group. And initially

49:25we had, you know, discussions

49:27that had input. So this I guess

49:30deviates from, from my

49:32expectation and some

49:33expectations we had around who

49:35would be doing this and what

49:36decision making around it would

49:37look like. But I'm happy to

49:39hang back and discuss further.

49:41>> Thank you. Thank you. Any

49:42additional questions on the

49:43process? Council Member Gruber.

49:48>> Yeah, not a question, just a

49:50comment. I think it would be

49:51good. I think typically during

49:53budget season, council staff

49:56puts out a a graphic that is

49:58shareable so that people know

50:00where and when to engage. When

50:03do we plan to have the four

50:05district based sessions

50:07scheduled?

50:08>> So at this point, I believe

50:10staff are working on locations

50:11and have been working with

50:12district council members to

50:14solidify that. I know that we

50:15have two confirmed dates and

50:17locations, and we're working on

50:18the other two. So it is our

50:19hope that by tomorrow we'll

50:21have that ready and then we'll

50:22be able to put out a graphic to

50:25the public through our social

50:27media and other channels,

50:30hopefully by early next week.

50:32>> Great. I know there's

50:34continues to be. There's going

50:35to always be some communication

50:37from community members that

50:38there's not enough public

50:39engagement, there's not enough

50:40public hearings, as you just

50:42laid out. There's going to be

50:43at least five more. Six more,

50:46maybe not just for us, but for

50:49community members to come

50:50participate. So I think we just

50:51need to continue to, to beat

50:52that drum over and over again

50:54and encourage people to come

50:55out to those sessions.

50:57>> Yes. And I would also

50:58encourage anyone in the next

50:59couple of months to also join

51:01us for speak to council and

51:02sign up to speak on zoning.

51:03It'll be on the A list because

51:05it is an item that's before us.

51:07So anyone who would like to

51:09speak on zoning and speak to

51:10council will be prioritized.

51:13Any additional questions? Okay,

51:17so one final note for the

51:19council. We will also have a

51:20staff report that will be

51:22produced. And the hope is to

51:23have that to council by Friday,

51:25October 9th. As a companion

51:27piece before we get into public

51:30hearings with the

51:31administration and with no

51:33further business, the Committee

51:35of the whole stands adjourned.

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