2026-09-08 - Council on Aging

00:00So, we've called to order here and uh

00:02you got inside. Wonderful. Um and the

00:06first this is an agenda and you can see

00:08this is a pretty full agenda.

00:11>> Yes,

00:12>> it's a really aggressive agenda and we

00:14still need to be out of the room no

00:15later than 3:30. Hopefully at 3

00:19>> 3 You need an hour.

00:21>> 3:15. Yeah. Because they need this room.

00:24>> Yeah.

00:24>> So, we're going to have to just barrel

00:26through it if you will. So the very

00:28first piece of business is to just kind

00:30of uh hopefully everybody since I sent

00:33you guys multiple com sometimes has a ch

00:36has had a chance to read the meeting

00:37minutes. I know you did and then we can

00:40move to approve the meeting minutes. Go

00:43ahead. I think we need a motion to

00:44approve.

00:46>> Thank you.

00:47>> And seconded by

00:49>> Thank you. Um, so, uh, are there any

00:53issues relative to the meeting minutes

00:55from last July?

00:57>> Shall we just go in for a vote?

01:00>> I was I believe I corrected the minutes

01:05request.

01:06>> Yes, I saw that in

01:08>> and I included them in in the

01:12Kathy wants to say

01:14>> I was there.

01:15>> You were there. Oh, you miss it. You're

01:17missing.

01:18>> Don't see myself in public.

01:25Um, okay.

01:28Uh, public.

01:30>> Yeah, I know. I don't see.

01:32>> You better wait to

01:35I'll do that. I'll add

01:39>> And anything else we I saw a couple of

01:41typos if you just look at it the same

01:42way and I'll just real typo thing like a

01:45little hint. So, um, and we can just

01:48clean it up and send it up. Anybody

01:49anything else for the meeting at meeting

01:51minutes?

01:52All right, we're going to vote. Uh, and

01:54because we have one person on Zoom, we

01:56need to call the MA. So, Brenda, uh, are

02:00you up for the meeting minutes?

02:03>> Yes, I accept.

02:05>> Thank you, Marie.

02:07>> Yes.

02:07>> Yes.

02:09>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay, great. Done. Um,

02:14now this is the real fun of the meat

02:16which is to review this whole new

02:20analog.

02:22Um,

02:24but what's happening here library we

02:27have Don with us. Um,

02:31and I and Nicole Noelia and I I guess we

02:35would want to start with I don't

02:37actually know how we made him second

02:39vote. I assume it passed again.

02:41>> It did.

02:42>> 6 to 5. was the same the same breakdown.

02:45>> Okay. So, uh for those who maybe didn't

02:48hear about the city council meeting, it

02:51it got second got pushed to yet another

02:53meeting to approve again and it was

02:55tight. There were people who were

02:56opposed to this. Um but it's done is a

02:59done deal now. So, I'd love to have I

03:02who do you want to start or do you want

03:03to start?

03:04>> I mean, I will just introduce myself in

03:07person for anybody who doesn't know me.

03:09I'm Don Delisanta. Um, up until a few

03:12days ago I was the director of libraries

03:14and now I'm the I mean still I guess

03:16haven't been officially made but the

03:19director [clears throat] of libraries

03:20and community services. Um I know I've

03:23spoken with you Pat on the phone but I I

03:26we met face to face before but I'm not

03:28sure if um

03:29>> Oh it's good to see you here.

03:32>> Yes.

03:32>> See you've been in the Marines.

03:34>> I Yes. [laughter]

03:37love. And so for me, I mean, I just I

03:40want to introduce myself and I know that

03:43some of you have already heard Mary's

03:45already heard this from me. What's

03:47important to me right now is to listen

03:49to what everybody has to say, learn the

03:51lay of the land, survey the domain. Um,

03:54and Cynthia and I have met as well and

03:57spoken about. Um, we're both relatively

03:59new to our well, brand new to our

04:02position. So, that's a good place to be

04:04in because we can, no matter what's

04:06happened, um, no matter what brought us

04:08here, now that we're together, we can

04:09build this together. I think that, uh,

04:11I'm incredibly enthusiastic. I'm a

04:14little tired right now because I just,

04:15some of you may have heard, um, our

04:18long-term um, board of library board of

04:20trustees, trustee Bob Dawn passed away

04:23with the weekend. So, this morning I was

04:26at his funeral. Um, and when we leave

04:28here, we'll be going to a Shiva, but so

04:31forgive me if I'm a little bit, you

04:33know, not quite as

04:36bubbly as usual. Um, but I am, however,

04:39nonetheless enthusiastic to begin this

04:42with everybody. I think that my belief,

04:45and you know, you mentioned I'm a

04:46Marine, um, is that we're going to do

04:49incredible things. Um, I think that

04:51we're going to look back in five years

04:53and be proud of what we've done. And I

04:55think that we are no matter what we are

04:57gonna we're going to set an example. Um

04:59but we can only do that my belief is is

05:01through working together and listening

05:03and sharing feedback. I have a very

05:06thick skin. I value feedback. If

05:08something's not working, I want to hear

05:10about it. Um, with that being said, I am

05:15Oelli is going to be running the

05:16day-to-day operations of Callahan and

05:18I'm, you know, much like, uh, Jim, who

05:20was a division head, but I do plan to be

05:22as involved as I possibly can. When I

05:25became a library director, I came to

05:27libraries, I didn't have a library

05:29degree, and I loved it and I learned how

05:30to do it. Um, and that's what I'm going

05:32to do here, too. Um, and I'm very

05:35excited to do that. I'm very excited to

05:36get started. already incredibly I've

05:39known Noelia for like nineish weeks and

05:42already floored by how enthusiastic,

05:46dedicated and kind um and willing to do

05:49the work she is. You have an incredible

05:52an incredible deputy director in

05:54Noellia. Um and so I'm I'm just looking

05:57forward to this. So I would love to hear

06:00any questions that anyone has for me

06:01specifically. if I can't answer them

06:03today, I'll take them with me and think

06:05about them and and get back to you. Um,

06:08but yeah, that's all I have for

06:11>> Thank you, Don. It was great. I I I'm

06:14also very excited now. I mean, that

06:15having had a chance to talk and and

06:17realize what's possible and of course

06:19I'm brand new at this too at this

06:20chairing of this even though I've been

06:22on the board um for for over a year now.

06:25To me, it really is a whole new time. Um

06:28certainly is technically because I keep

06:29trying to look out. Okay. I got

06:31everybody. Oh, Brian. All right. Brian

06:33allowed to talk. Okay. And Brenda is

06:35okay. So, um, is there anybody that

06:38would like to ask?

06:39>> Doc, please. Hi.

06:40>> I have a couple.

06:41>> Well, as I did make one of those council

06:44meetings and what I'm really hoping

06:46their personnel will reook at your job

06:50descriptions,

06:51they need to be upgraded. And I think we

06:54weren't servant of an upgraded job

06:58director. John description was our

07:01director. They were downrated salary

07:03wise and otherwise other directors. And

07:06I don't think mayor really got the

07:09message and that's what I'm worried

07:11about. And we're an advisory board.

07:15We're supposed to advise the mayor. He

07:17is not showing his face. He is resisting

07:22appointing new members to fill our

07:24vacancies. We'll hear about it later,

07:27but I think it's a severe problem we

07:30have. Personally,

07:33>> I hear you. I'm going to make a note um

07:35of what you just said. I will say one

07:37thing I've learned about the mayor in

07:39the last I've been the library director

07:41for two and a half years and uh worked

07:44for the with the mayor very closely and

07:45one thing I learn is he has an

07:47incredible poker face. Um, and I I know

07:51that he has heard that these these

07:53concerns and I know for a fact that he's

07:55working on them. I know he's working on

07:57job descriptions because I've sat in a

07:59room when they've been discussed with

08:00human resources. So, you can rest

08:03assured that you've been heard. I can

08:06guarantee that. But I will make sure to

08:08write down.

08:09>> We have to be recognized. We're a

08:10growing large part of the population.

08:14>> Yes. I agree. Citizens.

08:15>> Yeah. And I I I mean and we're going to

08:18we're going to

08:18>> what I see personally I've been in a

08:21user here in Jersey and [clears throat]

08:24you have a great library and there's

08:26lots of affinities with life continue

08:31learning

08:32in your music.

08:34>> Yes. So I can see joining forces is more

08:38appropriate with the library

08:41that

08:43personal opinion

08:46that and then we have representative we

08:49may need a joint meeting.

08:54>> I'm glad you mentioned that. I would

08:55love for there to be so Mary um and the

08:59friends and the library friends have

09:02already started a liaison change program

09:05where a friend of the Callahan is going

09:07to come to friends of the library board

09:09meeting and vice versa and so I think

09:12that would be wonderful for the trustees

09:15and the council agency to do the same.

09:17Now

09:17>> the trustees have a little better status

09:20than we

09:22were appointed by the mayor.

09:24>> Yeah. Well, and they're a a board. We're

09:27a council. Yes. And so that'll be you

09:30can see it's the next thing on the

09:31topic, you know, the responsibility of

09:33the council on of aging on aging. Um so

09:37is there are there anybody else want to

09:39ask a question? Don't I do just want to

09:41say one more thing with regard to what

09:43Pat said and that is um the libraries as

09:46well have typically in any community are

09:48typically uh

09:51they get sort of the the smaller end

09:53like the library is 1% of the municipal

09:56budget and I know that that is even less

09:58on that. Yes. So, one of the things

10:00that, you know, libraries have been um

10:03in danger of being defunded, and we all

10:06know this, we know that we lost federal

10:08funding ourselves in Framingham to our

10:10databases, and the friends of the

10:11library and the um veterans council

10:14stepped in to reinstate databases for

10:16Framingham users and through us to the

10:19Framingham schools. Um and so, one thing

10:22that I thought about when this it's this

10:25is admittedly a little bit selfish from

10:27my librarians. I thought this is great

10:29because now that we're together, we're

10:31stronger in numbers. and my Marine Corp

10:339 thought, can you imagine like an army

10:35of librarians and seniors and veterans

10:37if they come to us like marching on city

10:40hall [laughter] that I thought like

10:43together we're stronger and together

10:45we're louder and and and for me anybody

10:48who's listened to me for any heard it

10:50too much like the idea of the the

10:53loneliness epidemic

10:55>> and people who are um you know people

10:58who are alone and alone and and um

11:01without social connections is probably

11:05one of the worst things that that's

11:06happened to us and we have the

11:08opportunity to change that for framing

11:11and for the greater framing in the

11:12community for people come to frame.

11:14>> So before you came to the library your

11:17staff did a wonderful job during co

11:19>> Oh

11:21I've been here since calling people yes

11:24to

11:24>> see how they were doing. I was in charge

11:26of that program.

11:28>> Yeah.

11:29>> Yeah.

11:29>> And and the senior senate did too.

11:32>> Yeah.

11:32>> Very strong calling.

11:35>> So we collaborated on the senior calling

11:38and that's what the 411 grew out of

11:40after we started that little technology

11:45um you know like ad hoc call center. Um

11:49from that we we developed that into the

11:51411 which is which is you know as you

11:53know still at the library but that's

11:55right that with Grace Grace gave us the

11:57names and numbers of of everybody and

12:00our librarians are um sat down while we

12:03were you know not working from home and

12:05called everybody

12:06>> and sometimes that was the only call a

12:08person would get like what we were meant

12:10what we intended to do was say do you

12:12have enough food do you do you have

12:13enough money for your electricity you

12:15know do you need any medication but in

12:18sometimes lives. It ended up being an

12:19hour or two on the phone with people

12:21because that was the only connection we

12:22had. My mom, who was a Framingham

12:24resident, actually became she lost her

12:26husband on um Friday, September 13th,

12:292019, which, you know, was just a couple

12:31of months before we shut down. And so,

12:34she was one of those, you know, who was

12:36really lonely and affected by this. And

12:38that's what I was I mean, I went to

12:40visit my mom every day, but I think

12:42there's probably thousands of people

12:45like my mom who don't have anybody else

12:47at the end. And that's one of the

12:48reasons why I think the mayor and Susan,

12:51this is a passion project of Susan too,

12:53the 411 um or the 311. Some sometimes we

12:56call a different thing. Um because when

13:00you call you get a human being and

13:02that's so much different than getting a

13:03call anywhere, you know, that says

13:05something small, but it's important.

13:08>> Thank you.

13:10>> You put them as big memory from the

13:12times when people were called here. They

13:15needed to favor.

13:17Yes.

13:18>> Oh yeah. [laughter] And yours was

13:22>> so the social worker with the toilet

13:23paper and would literally go to the

13:26house and drop it off.

13:27>> Oh my gosh.

13:28>> Not not a whole thing but a couple roll.

13:29That's only getting there.

13:30>> It was worth it. That was when

13:33facilities maybe some some of you

13:34remember this went to single play

13:44institution.

13:47is there to paint.

13:49>> All right. All right. I can tell you

13:50that. So I I did put on the the next dot

13:53on the agenda, if you will, is the

13:55responsibilities of the council on aging

13:57based on this new reorg. And the reorg

14:00obviously is absent the director of

14:04services. Um and that and that the role

14:07on some level, this is at least what I

14:09put forth at when I spoke to the city

14:12council. Uh is now needing to be assumed

14:16if you will or assumed by the council on

14:18aging. Uh we need to establish a voice

14:21in a way that we have not before. We've

14:24always been sort of behind already

14:27behind the director. Um, and now it's

14:30it's to me this is a new role that we're

14:33in because of the New York in terms of

14:35being a voice uh and a voice to the

14:37mayor and to the city council. And in my

14:39year here, I I don't recall any

14:41communications to the mayor or, you

14:43know, or to the city council. But before

14:45we have anything, of course, to say, we

14:47have to know what we hear as it needs.

14:50So thus, we're going to be establishing

14:51a few things and you'll see this further

14:53down the agenda. But we need to get, you

14:56know, h have some something to worthy of

14:59being heard and we have not at this

15:00point yet. So I just put that out as as

15:04um as a new way to think about the the

15:08Council on Asian work and um any

15:11feedback or desire to say any more about

15:14that?

15:16>> Yes, please.

15:17>> And that's with regard to the county as

15:20well as to the citywide. speak up a

15:23little bit. Yeah.

15:26>> Okay. Um so that your point was uh it

15:29isn't the um to set some goals for the

15:32Callingan centers with our role but also

15:36based on what the citywide needs are

15:39because we know the city

15:41um older persons are not all represented

15:44in Calan.

15:45>> Exactly. Okay. At a maximum there's 20%

15:48of the population that even comes

15:50through these halls and and we know what

15:52some of the things are um that bring

15:54them here obviously exercises

15:56participate at the top but it's really I

15:58think to me the Callahan center is very

16:00well run they've got their act quite

16:03frankly to meet the council we don't

16:05>> and at this point to advise well if we

16:08see something worthy of advising

16:10Callahan they probably are in itself but

16:12you know obviously it's to me it's to

16:14represent the larger media

16:16of the the elder population. So, thank

16:19you for asking that question. Um, I'm

16:21going to go go ahead to the deputy

16:23director's verb it's a verbal report

16:25because it can't be a written report. We

16:27can't share it because until it is able

16:29to be published with the meeting minutes

16:32detailed reports like we used to get

16:34from Brandy are in fact out of order.

16:36Uh, we'll not be doing that again. So,

16:38they'll be a verbal until next time we

16:39can actually deliver a report. Sonolia

16:43>> I was going to double check with you

16:44guys in regards to the report what in

16:47because normally

16:49you normally give you the numbers

16:53>> for um participation and do you guys

16:56still would like to know those

16:59>> I think we need to know that we're

17:01continuing to go up and what areas are

17:04being emphasized getting good attendance

17:07>> yeah that's I think he gave the top

17:10three um uh well you know most attended

17:15groups whe whether it was uh no social

17:17service or exercise of

17:20>> so the one that we um have the most

17:23participations is exercise class those

17:26are very well attended all throughout

17:28the month um

17:31>> I think it's approp for you to tell us

17:34what you found up because you're part of

17:36the big listening aspect of the larger

17:39senior population So numbers do not need

17:41to be read in a meeting once we can

17:44publish them. We don't need if it says

17:46it on the report and those reports going

17:48to be delivered. Don't we don't need to

17:49talk about them. It's about what's a hot

17:51button for you, what you've heard and

17:53what you feel is needed from either the

17:57large, you know, for the larger

17:58population for or for us to hear to

18:00educate our ear because we are really

18:02having to listen a new on that be I mean

18:07on that vague note is there something

18:08you'd like what you'd like to tell the

18:10council on aging terms of being a useful

18:13thing to communicate. So, the numbers

18:16are staying high the same as they did.

18:20Um, they're even better than before

18:23because normally during the summer our

18:25numbers go down. This summer our numbers

18:27did not uh go down at all.

18:41Because as I understand it, Harry Shay

18:43is doing a great job with programming.

18:45>> Yes, she is.

18:46>> And there's two types of programming.

18:48There's sort of lifelong learning drives

18:51with what the library does and then

18:53there's cultural. And we're getting

18:56support from the cultural council every

18:59year for those too.

19:01>> So you have an annual request put in in

19:05the friends club. But I think that that

19:09request comes once a year, right, for

19:12the cultural council.

19:13>> Yes, it does.

19:14>> So,

19:16this year, instead of us applying for

19:19the cultural council, we're going to let

19:20the performers apply because they get

19:22more funds when they apply.

19:25>> I can't.

19:26>> They get more funds when they apply when

19:29the performers.

19:30>> Yes. So, we're going to let them. We'll

19:32write them a review and a letter of

19:35support saying yes, we would like to

19:36have them here. And then uh they would

19:38apply and get and then that will get

19:40more performers. We only get about

19:43$2,000 and if they apply they will get

19:47around 2,000 each

19:49>> each

19:50depending on how much they charge.

19:52>> Yeah. So we're going to let them apply

19:54themselves instead of us applying and

19:56paying that. And then we would fill in

19:58some programs that are not on

20:01>> in terms of the friends paying for it

20:02too. So obviously one of the big pieces

20:04of news for us is I put it under yours

20:07but is maybe also under I don't know

20:08Susan in terms of the UMass survey

20:10update is is there is there anything

20:13back on that?

20:17>> I've been looking for one thing and now

20:18you're asking me for

20:21numbers I don't care about I mean you

20:23said in general it's good. That's good.

20:24That's enough for the numbers.

20:27I think I mean listen if anybody else

20:28want me.

20:30>> Okay. So for the UMass um we will be

20:33having an internal meeting with the

20:34mayor about the UMass. Um Don um Susan

20:39myself are going to be there to review

20:41the draft report and then there will be

20:45a presentation a public presentation on

20:48October 14th at 3 here at the calendar

20:52center.

20:54So we'll we'll be inviting um Birmingham

20:57residents, the council, the city council

21:00and all of that to attend.

21:02>> But might we get a sneak peek before

21:04that larger?

21:06>> Not yet.

21:07>> Before October 14th?

21:08>> No, not yet.

21:09>> No, we have the first public

21:13presentation will be before the city

21:15council.

21:16>> Okay. So we could listen to it at there.

21:18>> You could listen at the city council.

21:20>> City council. Um we're I'm still working

21:23on schedule of that with George.

21:25>> Okay. And will we be well Tom is our

21:27liaison to government meetings. So he

21:29will notice that and and inform the the

21:32council on aging board that we should

21:33attend that city council meeting. That's

21:35when it's going to be first broken at

21:36any point beyond this very small group.

21:39>> Yes. But the public including the

21:41Council on Aging, the Friends of the

21:43Calhoun, everybody's invited to the

21:44meeting here on October 14th at 3 p.m.

21:47>> Sure. Absolutely. Okay. Um, I'm gonna

21:51move on then to the to the next topic.

21:53Or is there anything?

21:56>> No, I just said was that 3 p.m.

21:58>> 3 p.m. on October 14th here. October

22:0014th here at the center.

22:01>> Well, I guess the other question is uh

22:04how are you doing on filling your

22:06vacancies? That's vital.

22:08>> Yes. So, we have been um interviewing.

22:10We have a selected a candidate for

22:13social worker.

22:15>> Um so, she should be starting soon.

22:17We're in the process of onboarding her.

22:20Um, bilingual outreach coordinator is

22:22posted and volunteer coordinator is

22:25posted and next week me and Lisa are

22:28going to go over the job description for

22:31the age well. Um, once we have the job

22:34description for A12, we have our meeting

22:36with the health department to see if any

22:39of them would like to collaborate with

22:42us on

22:44>> the job that's age is on the agenda.

22:46What do you guys have to leave? Because

22:47Susan, I was thinking is the person who

22:49could speak to that even more.

22:50>> I have to leave no later than 2:15.

22:53>> Okay. So, we're gonna maybe

22:55about your business management.

22:57>> Exactly. I'm just going to business

22:59management.

22:59>> So, that one we did put out an offer and

23:01it declined. So, we have to go back to

23:05the drawing board and repost the

23:06position. Um, and

23:09>> Oh, and there wasn't even a second or a

23:10third in the midst of all of that

23:12interviewing.

23:14>> Ouch. So that's a pretty big gap right

23:17now. Business manager being the I mean

23:19literally the person who pays the bills,

23:21keeps track of all the financials.

23:23>> So we we are getting help from the

23:25library and we have Nick um Babino and

23:30he's been doing our um invoices and all

23:33of that. And then we have Hillary, she's

23:35been doing our payroll. So we've been

23:37getting help on that and it's anyway and

23:40then the rest I used to department so

23:43I've been doing that. Wow,

23:45>> that was also a lot of learning.

23:47>> That's fade. Yeah, I I can imagine

23:50that's changed.

23:50>> That's a great position.

23:52>> Yeah, there sure is. So, thank you for

23:53every been more.

23:56>> That's great. Um, okay. I'm I'm going to

23:59um flip things over to uh so we can get

24:02with Susan and and I'd like to hear more

24:04about the H1. So, I we have the current

24:06business. I'm going to just move it

24:07behind the new business right now

24:09because I think it's more appropriate.

24:11If everybody's okay with that.

24:13>> Sure. Um so uh Agewell please tell us I

24:16mean

24:17>> so Agewell um Megan who is the city's

24:20grants manager who was managing our

24:22grants for Agewell and Randy and I

24:25interviewed six candidates for a

24:28graduate student who would oversee the

24:30program. Unfortunately we could never

24:33find one person who would take on the

24:34role and then the grant was running out.

24:38we had literally like 60 days to spend

24:41the money in the grant or lose the money

24:43in the grant. So with that, we met with

24:46the Caling and Center staff, including

24:48Noelia and Lisa, the social worker, and

24:51um Megan and I then purchased um almost

24:54$20,000 worth of dementia project uh

24:57products. And we had two events here

25:00where people could come and pick out

25:02products. And at the same time, Lisa

25:04provided um services for people and also

25:08gave them information on where they

25:09could go for support groups and other

25:11stuff. And then since then, we have not

25:14moved anywhere forward with the A12. The

25:18last event we did was over the summer

25:20where we gave away the last of the

25:23sold.

25:24>> We had an event in um July where we um

25:27did that. So, at this point, we're now

25:29waiting for uh Noelier and the rest to

25:32move forward with the person who can

25:34coordinate the program.

25:36>> Okay. And it's a part-time position,

25:37correct?

25:38>> Yes.

25:38>> Uh so, is there is it in the budget?

25:41>> It's already in the budget.

25:42>> It's in the budget or grant funding. So,

25:44this would all be within the city

25:46budget.

25:46>> Yeah.

25:48>> Products.

25:50>> I know. I was curious. Yeah. Uh we did

25:52everything from um medicine uh

25:55containers that would be pre-programmed.

25:57So if somebody was living at home and

26:00had no one else with them, it would open

26:01up at 8:00 a.m. noon, 8:00 p.m. for when

26:04they have to take their medicines. There

26:06were puzzle products. There were game

26:07products. There were um phones that help

26:11people. The phones were had pictures of

26:14loved ones so they didn't have to

26:15remember phone numbers. They just had to

26:16hit the picture so that they could dial

26:18their loved one. There were some medical

26:20alert stuff that we gave out for people

26:23just in case if they passed out and um

26:25people came that they knew what kind of

26:28issues they had. Um and almost

26:30everything that we gave out, Lisa worked

26:33with the people as they picked it up

26:35with their so sometimes it was a a young

26:37um

26:39a child I don't want to say a child but

26:41a son or daughter picking up for their

26:43elderly parent. Sometimes it was the

26:46spouse of the elderly parent picking up

26:48and every product that we gave away

26:51there is also one at the library for the

26:53in the library of things. So um we did

26:56that on purpose so that if somebody

26:58couldn't get a product and we were

26:59already out of it that they can borrow

27:01it at the library of things and I think

27:03we have one at both library of things

27:05one at McAlliff and one at the main

27:07library.

27:08>> That's another coordination going on.

27:10>> Yeah we were already coordinating that

27:12last cherry. Yes. Yeah.

27:13>> Yeah. I I took advantage of that with a

27:16friend who was at Gasa Romana and I I

27:18met Lisa through that and took some of

27:21the things just a few of the workbooks

27:23and things but that was really nice.

27:25>> Oh nice. Oh wow.

27:26>> And I was actually there helping the

27:28first time

27:29>> and it was incredible just the diversity

27:32of uh products and many people came with

27:36their spouse who had certain levels of

27:39cognitive deficits.

27:40>> Yes. So, um, it was just an incred I

27:43thought it was incredible. Um,

27:45>> we got a lot of great feedback from

27:46people on the products, especially I

27:48think more for children of older adults

27:52who are struggling and don't know what

27:53to do because not only did they give

27:55products that they could use like the

27:57pill dispenser or the foam, but they

27:59also got the idea of talking to someone

28:01who could help them and then give them

28:03support and we also gave provided them

28:05with a list of all the supports that we

28:07offered here, but also within the

28:09community. That's brave.

28:11>> That's great.

28:11>> That's great.

28:15>> Um, okay. Uh,

28:19what's here is community outreach and

28:22I'm again I'm just trying to make it and

28:24I see also that Mary Kayini is also on

28:26the line and I would I did I don't know

28:28Mary Katie can can you do you hear us?

28:30Can you respond? She might be in the

28:32middle. No,

28:33>> but she's still there.

28:34>> Well, maybe she's coming. We'll see. She

28:36dropped.

28:36>> Oh, she No, she's there. Oh. Uh, she's

28:39there. But maybe if I allow her to talk.

28:42There we go. I didn't allow to talk.

28:43>> Oh. Uh,

28:46>> hi everyone.

28:47>> There you are. Uh, so Mayor K is is a,

28:50you know, on the city council and was

28:51also part of the the five of the six to

28:54five vote, I think. And I just wanted to

28:57get your feedback on what's happening in

28:59this larger um reorg. I apologize for

29:03doing this kind of out of order, but

29:05>> No, it's okay. I you know it's um

29:07wonderful to be with you guys again.

29:09Look, I I I was not I have a lot of

29:12questions or had a lot of questions

29:13about the reorg uh but it passed and so

29:16my number one goal right now is to make

29:18sure that you the Council on Aging and

29:21the Callahan Center staff and all

29:24seniors have what you need to uh be

29:26successful and to live wonderful lives.

29:29And uh that is my goal as a counselor to

29:33um look forward and not look backwards.

29:37So uh I hope to be with you at as many

29:39of your meetings as I can moving

29:41forward. And please please always use me

29:43as a resource. Um, if you have any

29:46questions, um, I'm here for you and

29:49let's do all that we can to, um, you

29:53know, make Framingham the welcoming

29:55senior community that, uh, it is and

29:58even better. So, thank you.

30:01>> Thank you, Mayor.

30:02>> Thank you.

30:02>> And so, Mayor J, of course, we're also

30:03hoping that you can put pressure on the

30:05mayor to get those four positions

30:07filled. Yes,

30:08>> I um I have emailed a couple of times

30:11inquiring about them, and I haven't

30:13heard anything yet.

30:15Um, and uh, hopefully we'll hear

30:18something soon. Um, but if I have to

30:21bring it up in a meeting, I certainly

30:22will. I'm not shy from asking questions.

30:25So, uh, but we will make sure I'm going

30:27to work hard to make sure that you get

30:28those four positions because it's just

30:30critical. Um, I mean, you're like,

30:32congratulations on having six, you know,

30:34having quorum today. [laughter]

30:36>> Um,

30:38>> so, but, uh, let's try to get you those

30:39four other positions.

30:41>> Thank you, Mary Kate. Go ahead. I'm just

30:43wondering are there people in the queue

30:46or is there just there are there people

30:49in the queue or there's no applicants?

30:52>> I believe there are applicants. I

30:53haven't heard otherwise. Um I just I

30:56don't know what's

30:58>> Yeah, we know.

30:59>> Yeah, Pat knows some. It looks like

31:01Kathy knows some people are in the

31:03queue. Definitely people too.

31:05>> I'm here guys. I don't know if you can

31:07hear me. It's Janet. Sorry, my hand

31:09isn't being raised.

31:12it. I'm sorry.

31:12>> No, no, it's me. It's my phone. I'm

31:14actually with my kids and it's very

31:16sunny where I'm at right now. So,

31:19>> I actually hung up by accident. So, um

31:21but um No, great. No, I totally agree

31:24100% everything Mary Kate said. Um I

31:27think that we're 100% um committed to

31:30these um clearly filling these

31:32positions. And I um I was one of the

31:35ones that actually saw this as a really

31:37good thing. I was one of the majority on

31:38the vote and I spent a lot of time

31:40speaking to a lot of the people at the

31:42senior center including much of the

31:43staff. Um I talked to some of the board

31:47members from the um the Callahan Center,

31:50you know, the Council on Aging. I spoke

31:52with the social workers. I mean, I I

31:55really I showed up when we had the um we

31:58were all invited to that awesome open

31:59house that you guys did a couple weeks

32:02back when um myself and I believe George

32:05Phillip and Mike Cannon showed up as

32:08well as did the mayor and he was

32:10actually passing out the tickets because

32:12they were doing like a little raffle. I

32:14was kind of kidding him that he should

32:15take IDs because some of the folks were

32:18really young and they were like like my

32:21age, a little bit younger than me and I

32:23started to think rethink my whole life

32:25like when did I become a senior? But

32:28[laughter] it it was amazing. The room

32:31was packed. Terry and Noelia did a

32:34fantastic job as did you know Lisa and

32:38Mary McIll and it was just it was a

32:41great turnout and I think that you guys

32:43are doing some great things there and

32:46>> um I I can I'm we're all committed. I

32:50don't think any of us were ever against

32:52I just think that we just differ. We

32:53think some of us thought it was a great

32:55merger. others just did, you know, they

32:57didn't think the same and I can't speak

32:59for them, but I um, you know, I did

33:02speak with a lot of the people that were

33:04involved. So, I know there were a lot of

33:06unfortunately it kind of got a little,

33:09you know, back and forth like on

33:11Facebook. There were some things that

33:12probably weren't really really nice that

33:14was said to people. Um, but I think at

33:17the end it's really I think the one

33:19thing everyone agrees on is that it's

33:20it's really what the senior center

33:22wants. And I think and it's what they

33:25need. And I think with these positions I

33:28think that these should have been filled

33:30a long time ago and that's part of the

33:32reason that they're now going to be

33:33filled. This is actually we are moving

33:35in the right direction. And um as to the

33:38um the seats, so I'm the chair of the

33:42appointments committee, which is the

33:44board that basically gets the

33:46applications from the mayor and um so

33:49they come to us and then we have we um

33:53you know, we do the the meeting and then

33:55we send them to the council and that's

33:56kind of we vote on them and that's how

33:58it works. Unfortunately, we did lose um

34:02you know, three folks in the um you

34:05know, not too long ago. And I know that

34:07you know, some of the issues with the

34:09quorum was kind of a problem. Um I know

34:11that that one meeting became an issue

34:13because a lot of folks were out on

34:15medical and I don't think it's a rule

34:17that you guys had a quorum um problem.

34:20Well, until obviously now.

34:23>> Um so I do I can promise you this is

34:25something that the mayor is looking at.

34:28um he's looking at this. Um I know that

34:31they did they did get some of the

34:32applications in. One of the things too

34:34that they're really talking about is

34:36trying to make sure that they're not all

34:39from one district. Um there the the

34:43problem is is when you get like four and

34:45five and six applications from one

34:48district, um the then becomes a little

34:51bit of a challenge because you're trying

34:53to balance it and so there's

34:55representation.

34:57Um you know and one of the other things

34:59that we had talked about it had been

35:00gone the la last city council and it had

35:03been brought up as doing these seats in

35:06a district um in a district format. So

35:10instead of having 11 um 11 you know

35:13council on aging members

35:16you would do a district um they would be

35:19appointed by district. So every single

35:20district would have one one through nine

35:23or then you do maybe two at large. And

35:25this is something that had come up

35:27before at the city council. Um, and this

35:30had been discussed in the past at some

35:32point only because of questions um

35:37about having it be representative like

35:39the city where all the city council

35:41seats one comes from each district.

35:43there has been,

35:45you know, the the thought behind

35:48district seats for the council was to

35:50kind of give that same equal

35:52representation throughout the city. Um,

35:56and I know that it has been brought up,

35:57but I don't know exactly if that would

36:00be something that the mayor wants to do,

36:01but I know that there are that there

36:03were going to be some interviews coming

36:04up with the handful of applications that

36:08have come in. So to that point that just

36:11to kind of sorry I've gone on a little

36:13long but there were a lot of things I

36:14just wanted to um you know mention and

36:17at least make note of and um as soon as

36:20they have the those applications

36:22um in front of us they will then get put

36:25on the city council agenda.

36:28>> Okay. Yeah, we've got some hands here.

36:30>> So um Shannet, this is Marie. Um

36:33>> hey Marie.

36:34>> Hi. Um I I think that in the ideal

36:38situation having a representative from

36:41each district is like a a great idea.

36:45The problem is

36:47each member of that district a member of

36:50each district has to take the initiative

36:52to send out an application, right? and

36:56and and there are some districts that

36:59you know they might not even fully know

37:02that this is something that they could

37:04do.

37:06So I think um I mean we've had so many

37:08challenges with

37:11um having you know the need for a

37:13sixperson forum when we have seven uh

37:17members and we have four vacancies

37:20um this year that it's been I think

37:22quite disruptive to us getting anything

37:25done. Um and so we've had to cancel

37:29meetings. we've had to stop talking at

37:32meetings because someone had to leave um

37:35and the meeting was curtailed. So, I

37:38just

37:40I [clears throat] think that we have to

37:41be realistic and um and and I'm not sure

37:45like I think the goal would be great to

37:47get an even distribution of people

37:49across districts, but we also want to

37:52have a functional COA that doesn't rely

37:55on uh um a small number uh so we can try

38:00to get, you know, some of our goals

38:01done. So, I just wanted to give you that

38:03feedback.

38:04>> Sure. No, I don't dis look I that's why

38:07I said this isn't anything that's being

38:09proposed. This is something that has

38:10been talked about of a way to make the

38:13senior board be um you know more

38:16representative and you know and that

38:18that's that's a hugely valid point. So

38:21>> yeah,

38:21>> and I would suggest that the

38:22representation doesn't need to

38:24necessarily we also need to have people

38:25who be offer because of their expertise

38:29value to the board much more so than

38:31being physically in in in a house

38:33someplace else. That'd be my two cents.

38:35But Pat, I'm sorry.

38:37>> I know there was hang up the summer

38:39getting things to meetings because

38:41you're only meeting once a month. Is the

38:44council going back on a more frequent

38:46meeting schedule every other week? Say

38:50again. [clears throat] Sorry.

38:51>> City council going back.

38:52>> Is it Are you going to get our more

38:55frequent meeting schedule for the city

38:57council? So we can

38:59>> We haven't changed. No, we we haven't

39:01changed. We've we've always only had one

39:03meeting in July and August.

39:04>> So we've never had less meetings. Yeah.

39:06No. Yeah. It's It's a September. So

39:08we're meeting three times.

39:10>> We're meeting three times.

39:12>> Three times in September.

39:13>> We're meeting three times in this month.

39:15Yep.

39:15>> That's what I wanted to hear.

39:17>> Okay.

39:17>> Yeah. Yeah. No, we always summers we

39:19always just meet once a month. So we

39:21didn't Yes.

39:23>> July otherwise.

39:25>> Yeah.

39:25>> More.

39:26>> Yeah. Otherwise we meet twice or three.

39:28We we meet two or three times

39:30>> a month. A month as a city council. So

39:34>> Okay. Wonderful. Thank you, Janet. Go

39:36ahead, Kathy.

39:37>> Yes. Just to follow up on that, Kath

39:39McC. Hi.

39:41>> Hi, Mir. Thanks for joining. As you

39:45know, I'm not um a member anymore. Uh

39:48[clears throat] but my application has

39:50been there many others. Oftentimes,

39:53people do apply and they never hear

39:57anything. And that's something your

40:00subcommittee

40:01um should be dealing with um because

40:05this is not an unusual thing. This has

40:07been common lately uh the last couple

40:10years. And so also what you mentioned

40:13about um the center needs dealing with

40:18the center needs it's not necessarily

40:21the needs of the center which we have

40:24wonderful confidence in the people that

40:26are running it here

40:28but we're focusing on the senior needs

40:33the umbrella as Cynthia has mentioned

40:36and I think that's sometimes lost in the

40:39shovel. Um people think and and what you

40:42say about um representing a district.

40:46None of us come here just representing

40:50our own little neighborhood or our own

40:52seniors and that that's not the

40:54mentality that is brought to the council

40:56on aging or neither it is the um friends

41:01mentality is the seniors at large. So I

41:05think that would be a step backward and

41:08um we should be any of us coming here

41:13and engaging and helping should always

41:16look to the greater

41:20uh senior population and how we can help

41:23not just bring them in the door but if

41:26they can't get in the door or they don't

41:28see a connection. That's what was great

41:31about the welcoming um event and people

41:35came and they learned and I as you know

41:38Janet came around and helped the tours

41:41as well just as a guest and they liked

41:44it but they have to get them in the door

41:46and some people they don't think it they

41:50oh I'm not a senior even though I'm way

41:52up there in here. So there's a lot of

41:54mentality that you have to go through,

41:56but we should be looking at the whole

42:00senior population in Framingham

42:02>> and including them.

42:03>> Yeah, I I agree. The idea of doing it by

42:05district is somehow a political thing is

42:07it's as if we're representing neighbors.

42:09We're not. We're just being representing

42:12ourselves. Okay. And it sounds like

42:14we're getting a lot of nods here. So

42:15Janet, I hope you'll take that back.

42:17What we really need are people who can

42:18really help move the senior needs, the

42:23understanding of the senior needs along

42:25like some people who work in geriatrics

42:26or nursing homes or a lawyer or a you

42:29know or a doctor or a you know

42:33what they can bring to matter where they

42:35live. We're not we're not polit we're

42:36not a political organization and we're

42:39not a political organization. I'll say

42:41that again but we are not for any mayor.

42:43We serve at the for the council and the

42:46mayor that's in place. We have no

42:48opinion about what is it, you know, it

42:51is and all we are is trying to be both a

42:54listening aspect and then being able to

42:57translate perhaps information over to

42:59you like right now about the need for uh

43:03about the needs of of elders and the

43:06best way to perhaps go about making that

43:09communication open and heard. So, um,

43:14thank you for that.

43:15>> Got it. Sure.

43:16>> Okay. Yeah. Um,

43:18>> can I just can I just

43:19>> please? Yeah.

43:20>> Um, someone I know uh her husband uh

43:23just passed away uh from uh long-term

43:28effects of dementia. And I heard this uh

43:34after the fact that her the wife who was

43:38probably like my age

43:41um had didn't know where to go. And so I

43:45said to my friend who told me this

43:46information, but did she ever call

43:49Kelly?

43:49>> Yeah.

43:50>> And my friend who's a health

43:52professional said, I never even thought

43:54of that. [laughter]

43:56Ouch.

43:57>> I said they would I said you know that

43:59you know framing him as a dementia

44:01friendly d and so

44:05>> even though we think people know

44:07information

44:08>> just to call to one of our social

44:11workers

44:12>> yes

44:12>> would have given her a little bit of

44:14direction because apparently it was a

44:16very difficult

44:18path that she was on and she didn't know

44:20where to go and they finally put it in a

44:23a hospice in uh Wayland in Poland.

44:27lasted about a week and then he passed

44:28away. But

44:29>> I felt awful that I didn't know this.

44:32>> Um, but that's how little some people

44:35know even though we assume people know a

44:37lot.

44:38>> Right.

44:39>> Right. Amen. You know, and so and to

44:42that point, I'm going to I'm going to go

44:43right to the next point, which is we

44:44have a community outreach initiatives.

44:46Um, and and the COA board itself, we

44:49need to have listening hours. We'll have

44:50them obviously here at the Calhan and

44:52and Terry and Noelian helped us do that.

44:54And that is going to be established.

44:56It's not going to actually be September

44:5717th. It's not on the calendar for

44:59September. I think we're just in October

45:01now.

45:01>> No,

45:02>> we do. We are September 17th.

45:06>> Baltimore September 17th.

45:10>> We're both September and October.

45:14>> I think that we need to vote. Do we need

45:16to vote on that, guys? That we're going

45:18to have these monthly.

45:19>> All right.

45:20>> Yes. Why don't we put it in our

45:22>> It definitely been the minutes,

45:24>> but do we need to vote on it? Because I

45:25guess the only thing is that then Rousil

45:28is going to help coordinate kind of like

45:31coordinating, you know, communicating to

45:33us what we need to know about city

45:34information that we need to make sure

45:37that we have people at these events. Now

45:39I'm happy I'm going to go to the one the

45:41first one September but this is

45:42something we'll talk about every month

45:44and make sure that we definitely have a

45:46person there and not only a person there

45:48or two but also some bit of a not an

45:53agenda an agenda in terms of listening

45:56>> elevator speeches that we were talking

45:58about.

45:59>> Exactly. Elevator speeches or also maybe

46:02elevator surveys.

46:04>> Yes. We we just started ours the other

46:07month and

46:08>> it really went well. Yes. I mean, people

46:10came and we we got a list of things they

46:12were wanting and I gave them to Noelia

46:15and Terry to look at and by the way,

46:18thank you. Thank you for the chairs. So,

46:20they it is helpful. But just being there

46:24and listening to their concerns and

46:26their just feedback because like what do

46:30you do? Like they know what we do now. I

46:32and some which they still have to get

46:33that through but you have to let them

46:35know you're not us you are

46:37>> right

46:38>> we're [clears throat] not the center the

46:40center is well managed I mean

46:42>> yes

46:42>> so it really is it's also for us to get

46:44clear it is what what is our elevator

46:47speech for who the heck cops

46:49>> you are and what you hit [clears throat]

46:52>> exactly and I to me that become a little

46:54subcommittee in terms of and you know we

46:56started actually already seal you you

46:58want to say anything think about this in

47:00terms of how to even

47:02>> we didn't really [clears throat] get

47:03very far talking about but

47:05>> should we get more people it's just

47:07something you know I think everybody

47:09should have input on the COA um but it

47:13should be short and concise obviously an

47:15elevator speech something quick that you

47:17can give to somebody and then they can

47:20ask questions

47:21>> and remember these people will be

47:22walking back it's going to get their

47:24attention

47:25>> you're going to trip

47:27them

47:29[laughter]

47:29>> no tripping allowed

47:32But exactly that do you know the

47:34retention somehow?

47:35>> So this is something that I I think that

47:38we can just start to put and again this

47:40is the excuse me got tickle my throat

47:43this open [clears throat] meeting law

47:44potential concern but seems to me that

47:47we put together ideas about our little

47:50elevator speech. You're not leaving. I

47:51hold

47:52>> I have to go to the bathroom.

47:53>> Okay. [clears throat]

47:56>> Eat coffee. Uh Linda and Steve actually

47:59started that. remember they was they

48:00didn't go out.

48:02>> No, they didn't. They started it.

48:04>> Okay.

48:05>> And

48:05>> and they had they had a little fellow

48:08with the council meeting.

48:09>> Yeah. They just wanted to introduce who

48:11they were, what they were doing there.

48:13>> Oh, okay.

48:14>> And then I think it's something so they

48:17didn't come back.

48:18>> No. Right.

48:19>> Okay. They did start that.

48:20>> Well, Steve is still part of uh Deep

48:22Kitty actually is still part of the

48:23Friends Linda has really departed. But I

48:26could reach out anyway. I'd be curious

48:28to see how it went. But I think that our

48:31elevator speech on who the Council on

48:33Aging is is something that I'd like to

48:35work amongst us all.

48:38>> And I don't think that's an open meeting

48:39law problem.

48:42>> It's not the actual it's elevating

48:4715 second who are you.

48:50>> Exactly. In networking, it's an elevator

48:52speech. But the idea is it's 15 seconds

48:54to say this is who we are.

48:56>> Right. So go ahead. Yeah. So I think

48:58just on that note um

49:02I just lost my thought here. On that

49:04note, could we have it on the agenda

49:06every month so that

49:09um that that quick focus speech for that

49:14particular meeting uh time could be

49:17discussed in an open forum. So if we put

49:21it on the agenda, we

49:22>> Yeah,

49:23>> it is on the agenda right now.

49:25>> Right. Right.

49:25>> Under new business. But I will

49:27definitely put it under current COA

49:29business and always bring it up as a

49:30topic.

49:31>> You always bring it up for any new focus

49:33idea and that way it will violate open

49:36reading law.

49:36>> Okay. Okay.

49:37>> Okay. That's sec. The second thing is if

49:41friends are doing kind of a listening

49:43session. I'm not sure what you're

49:44calling it.

49:46>> This hour

49:48the hour. Could

49:52>> Okay, I'm going to ask this and ju just

49:54because I'm just wondering could we do

49:57it in a combined format even though I

49:59know our agendas are different like you

50:01raise money for helping the Callahan but

50:04we're looking at maybe bigger and

50:05broader issues in the community but

50:09>> does it does it make sense to have them

50:11separate or should combine it

50:13>> because it's it's one's financial and

50:16it's a 5013C See?

50:18>> No, I I know, but I know I know where

50:20you're going with that, Marie. I think

50:23>> I don't know. What do you think, Naval?

50:25>> Um, it's up to you guys. You could have

50:27it together um and be there on the same

50:30month,

50:31>> but my worry is that people might get

50:34confused,

50:34>> right?

50:36And yours and yours and ours like what

50:39are you doing? Do you know

50:40>> who you are?

50:41>> The fairs are now established for the on

50:44the Tuesday we have meeting the second

50:45Tuesday

50:46>> at 10 to 11.

50:47right before regular meeting, right?

50:50>> I believe yours is going to be the third

50:52Thursday of the month.

50:53>> And we're in the for is it September

50:5517th? I guess that's the third one.

50:57>> Um, yeah. So, we're on a Thursday at a

50:59different time. And and of course, I

51:00think that we're going to see some of

51:01the same foot traffic. They're going to

51:03go, "Oh, necessarily

51:06different classes."

51:08>> This will be a whole different room

51:09going through it.

51:10>> Okay. But there's still exercise

51:11classes.

51:12>> Yeah. But different people coming under

51:13different exercise. So I guess we can

51:16see how the girls I'm just wondering see

51:18her first one goes and they go from

51:20there. Yeah.

51:20>> But that's what I did. I reported back

51:22to I the next month what what happened?

51:25Who came? What did we do? What did we

51:27discuss?

51:28>> Yeah.

51:28>> And about a lot but it's a unique thing.

51:32You have lots of stuff.

51:34>> But

51:35gather

51:37some different opinions in a different

51:39time of day that maybe people don't.

51:43Well, we were both 10 and 11 at this

51:45point. 10 to 11 because that's the

51:46highest foot traffic because it's the

51:49exercise class which is the number one

51:50draw of people. So focus to go in there

51:53and do that.

51:54>> Yeah. Yeah. So they are true but you

51:56catch them on the run and then you trip

51:58them. No, you don't. [laughter]

52:00>> You have that little cat.

52:04>> They always beat on a certain day

52:06certain time. So you know that that's

52:07when you can meet tall,

52:09>> right? So along the lines of doing

52:11things together, let's just go right to

52:12the next one, which is there's a Well,

52:13first of

52:14>> I wrote down community day and I hope

52:16everybody looked at all the attachments

52:18that I put in there. So community day is

52:20potentially a it's by sponsored by a

52:24church, but it didn't seem very churchy

52:25to me. I mean, it seemed like it was

52:27just a community at the group and it's

52:29happening sooner September 12th.

52:32>> And I don't know

52:34what we should do as far as separation

52:36of church and state. So

52:38>> my question

52:39>> I had I think we had a s a similar

52:43reaction to the flyer here.

52:46>> Yeah.

52:46>> From the community gay

52:48>> which was bigger little you said

52:50churchy.

52:51>> Yeah.

52:52>> Yeah. I

52:52>> you think it is

52:54>> what I thought I thought the same thing.

52:56>> Well it's certainly from new life a

52:58place for hope safety day community day.

53:00Um but if you look maybe it is because

53:03it also may be too political. I don't

53:04know, but it has immigration and mass

53:07health.

53:09>> They love everything they're doing,

53:11>> right? Certainly, I'd love to be there.

53:13My only question is it's definitely

53:15faith-based.

53:18>> Say a day of service. So, you have to

53:20understand

53:21>> a day of service, care, and connection

53:23for the community. It's also wide open.

53:27Um,

53:30if you uh it's it's on September 12th,

53:33Saturday the 12th from 10 to 4 at the

53:35New Life Church which is right on Union

53:37Now.

53:38>> Um, and you'll see there's a flyer for

53:40it in in the attachment. So when you uh

53:44you may not

53:46be

53:53added after

54:00>> so you can actually look at

54:02>> it's first off any one of us can go as

54:04an individual

54:05>> but the thing is like

54:07because because I'm on the council on a

54:11>> it's about when we representing the

54:12council

54:14if we're you know then we're we're

54:16having our name or our faith saying I'm

54:18I'm actually fing council on aging and

54:21that's its own statement

54:24so I think the board would have to agree

54:28to the various effects okay we got a

54:31funny not

54:33>> like when I speak or you speak

54:34>> yes state council

54:37>> not

54:39we just say I'm speaking

54:42introduced myself at the city council as

54:44the chair of the council on aging. I did

54:46do that.

54:47>> I heard you do that.

54:48>> I thought about that, but I thought well

54:49I was also there's a lot of

54:50encouragement to do that.

54:52>> Yes.

54:52>> Yeah. Yeah. I read that.

54:53>> So exactly that. I guess I don't really

54:55know when I have to have permission from

54:57or when any of

54:59>> get fired. [laughter]

55:04I don't want

55:06>> What do you guys think about that? Do we

55:08need to have a

55:09>> I think I think that we should attend as

55:13they come on aging for city functions.

55:16Um I'm not sure because we could be

55:18going to millions of these things.

55:20>> Yes,

55:21>> many churches. I mean this looks very

55:23comprehensive.

55:24>> It does.

55:25>> I'm actually really impressed.

55:27>> It would be great to share information

55:28with them. Certainly.

55:30>> Yeah. I'm sure we could go as an

55:32individual who just happens to be but

55:35not there to represent. But that's which

55:37is what Pat did to the city council.

55:41>> But just on the list of

55:43>> things to do to connect for a bigger

55:47mission of connecting with seniors in

55:49the community, these faith communities

55:52are a center where you can

55:54>> absolutely

55:55>> you know and and the Catholics are

55:58divided into Spanish speaking,

56:01Portuguese speaking, different parishes.

56:03So, you know, there's a number of places

56:06>> that you could reach out to

56:08>> and that's in the future for us is a

56:11mission

56:12>> and we talked about that just kind of

56:14what Janet was talking about in terms of

56:15all the different districts too. I mean

56:17certainly a church can sort of have a

56:19whole different community just what you

56:21said. So I think that's

56:22>> you know unarians to a lot of

56:26>> and the church up there in Saxonville

56:28likewise.

56:29>> Yeah. And I don't even know I think this

56:31is just an ecument. I think it's

56:33probably a uh agent evangel I'm going to

56:35get

56:36>> should be in our schedule is uh

56:40Senator Spila's coming day

56:42>> Karen [clears throat] Spilkas is October

56:4417th and Framingham fest

56:46>> and there again we would join

56:49>> we're going to join Callahan and we're

56:51going to have council on aging and

56:52friends will probably be there so

56:53Framingham Fest October 13th and Karen

56:56Spokus we will all we will be joining as

56:58a as a group but it's this other one I'm

57:01a little concerned best.

57:02>> Yes. I'm sorry. Um I just wanted to say

57:06off the fence when you're part of a

57:09board or whatever and

57:10>> she's not

57:11>> you can say that you were on the board

57:14or I on the board but say I'm speaking

57:17for myself but I want to let you know

57:19about this that and the other thing that

57:21the board is doing but if you have

57:24something like your letter to the city

57:26council you were speaking because that

57:29was a voted thing. Yes,

57:31>> that's the difference. And um the other

57:34thing is I just wanted to remind you

57:36that Senior Heroes Award every year we

57:41have a mammoth list of faith

57:44communities, some small, some big that

57:47we reach out to every year.

57:50>> Okay. And so there's a connection there

57:52with um you know their volunteers in the

57:56city and uh to publicize it with their

58:00communities, their newsletters,

58:01whatever. So um some of us been doing

58:04that and I think this all kinds of

58:08different things but I don't know

58:10whether we should promote one church if

58:12it says

58:13>> services.

58:15Yeah, that that

58:17>> was the word that I

58:18>> that was the first thing that comes up

58:20there

58:21>> church.

58:23So go to service question is

58:27>> all these organizations that they're

58:30representing

58:33>> is a calling center and there and social

58:36service department aware of all them

58:39like the housing assistants the raft.

58:41>> Yes, Lisa works with all of them.

58:44>> All of them. Oh, okay.

58:45>> Okay. Ones that was we those we don't

58:47qualify for them. Well, the ones that we

58:49do, Lisa works.

58:52Yeah.

58:53>> The um ADHC.

58:57>> Well, I guess some of this stuff is new

59:00information for me, but not necessarily

59:02new for the county.

59:06>> I I think I probably will just go just

59:09as a as a citizen who wants to know more

59:11about it. And I hear what you're saying,

59:12Kathy, for making that distinction. I'm

59:13not exactly representing. I just happen

59:15to be all voting.

59:18>> All right. If anybody wants to join me

59:19then great.

59:21>> Okay. All right. Maybe. All right. So,

59:23uh, we are definitely on for and we're

59:25going to be coordinating. We'll need

59:27staff or whatever members of the board

59:29to be at the Framingham Fest on October

59:313rd, Karen Spilas on October 17th, and

59:35of course these listening hours which

59:36start on September 17th.

59:38>> Yes.

59:39>> Okay. Great. Um, I'm going to keep going

59:41down the new business which is the COA

59:44annual report surprise.

59:47So, [clears throat] uh, and and and

59:50thank you, Marie, and and and thank you

59:52Pat for giving me suggestions, but

59:54again, I'm just going to ask as a

59:55general rule. Um I sent out to to Marie

59:58and Pat what I got from um I not sent it

1:00:02to everybody because again I wasn't sure

1:00:04all I you know I don't want to for them

1:00:06whatever the hell um the uh by it's I

1:00:10think it's due by what? September 13th.

1:00:13>> September 15th.

1:00:14>> September 15th.

1:00:15>> Yeah.

1:00:15>> And it's our COA report.

1:00:18>> Yes.

1:00:18>> And you are going to write a separate

1:00:20report.

1:00:20>> Yes.

1:00:21>> Okay. And that's Are you aware that

1:00:22they've been doing this all along that

1:00:24Randy was writing these or who was Clyde

1:00:26was writing these um for the COA and you

1:00:28and or Ry's been writing?

1:00:30>> I was aware of the one that Randy was

1:00:32doing. I was not aware that the

1:00:33>> I think Randy and Clyde Clyde first.

1:00:37>> No, the last one was written by Audrey

1:00:38Hall. Last one was written by Audrey

1:00:41because I I refuted us to read.

1:00:45>> Oh, you did?

1:00:45>> Yeah.

1:00:46>> Did you send them to me already? You

1:00:48know, I just I actually opened a

1:00:49document from last year, the

1:00:52>> multi-page document. Yeah. And then I

1:00:54went to uh the co the council on aging

1:00:58and she had written up um

1:01:01>> there's a there's a a chart that has

1:01:03each person and when they are when

1:01:05they're up.

1:01:06>> Yeah. Yeah, I know that one.

1:01:07>> So she so that probably has to get

1:01:08updated.

1:01:10>> Okay.

1:01:10>> And then um and then what the goal of

1:01:13the COA is. It was basically what the

1:01:15goal is in the website. Okay. and then

1:01:18um some of the uh invited speakers that

1:01:22came

1:01:23>> uh from uh this past year. Um

1:01:28>> and then she she talked about the senior

1:01:30heroes award and then she just and then

1:01:33it was uh she must have written it um

1:01:37does it go from January to December or

1:01:40what when is the beginning of fiscal

1:01:41year?

1:01:42>> I think it's a fiscal year. Yeah. which

1:01:44is like July or

1:01:45>> so it's July 1st until June 30th.

1:01:50>> Okay. Okay. Thank you. So fiscal year.

1:01:52>> So March we must have written it

1:01:55now she must have written it last

1:01:58year before she was

1:02:01the chair because she was elected chair

1:02:03in

1:02:05>> September. It was September. So um

1:02:09so I had suggested uh

1:02:14some of the things and you know some of

1:02:15the new initiatives in terms of um the

1:02:17listening hours and stuff but I also um

1:02:22also thought that it would be good to

1:02:24put in the changing leadership and how

1:02:27that I call it leadership chaos but

1:02:31>> yes but I I also chaos and

1:02:37the the slant of everything is is of the

1:02:40report is very positive. So maybe in

1:02:43there could be just challenges to

1:02:47um making achieving goals um would be

1:02:50that we had numerous leadership changes

1:02:54>> leadership

1:02:56negative thing

1:02:59>> so here's my question is I've already

1:03:01taken theirs of course I took it to JPT

1:03:03as well then I started pulling apart I

1:03:05mean I'm happy to take this on I've got

1:03:08material already but I'm my thought is I

1:03:10want to get it to the board members to

1:03:13see what they think and get feedback.

1:03:16Anybody know open meeting law? Is that a

1:03:18problem? I mean,

1:03:19>> I don't think it is because we can vote

1:03:21that you do this and circulate this for

1:03:24our opponents.

1:03:25>> Okay.

1:03:25>> I can make that motion.

1:03:26>> All right. So, I'm going to send it to

1:03:27everybody and I want I want you to

1:03:29directly I guess report back to me. So,

1:03:31that's how we'll avoid any quorum.

1:03:35>> Discuss.

1:03:36>> You're a good writer looking at you. You

1:03:38got help too. [laughter]

1:03:40boyish

1:03:47left-handed.

1:03:50You're a professor for God's sakes,

1:03:52right? Am I right?

1:03:53>> Yeah.

1:03:56>> All right. So, I will start that. All

1:03:58right. I will start it. These guys have

1:04:00already started it for me. Um, and I

1:04:02will get that going because it has to be

1:04:03deliberation.

1:04:04>> You have a format for last year. Well,

1:04:07actually, I used your format, which you

1:04:09probably maybe you got from Audrey, but

1:04:10you you had the sections I thought was

1:04:12really helpful.

1:04:12>> Yeah, I actually wrote that before I

1:04:14reviewed last year's because I never

1:04:16even knew there was one last year. So, I

1:04:18looked through the document from the

1:04:21city's 2025 report.

1:04:23>> Okay.

1:04:23>> And I found it and I went, "Oh, this is

1:04:25interesting." Didn't know anything. I

1:04:27didn't know.

1:04:27>> If it's easy for you, send to me. I I

1:04:29should be able to find it easily to

1:04:30share.

1:04:31>> If you go

1:04:33there,

1:04:33>> there was a link. You had to go through

1:04:35a whole lot of stuff though.

1:04:36>> Yeah.

1:04:37>> Yeah. It's not easy.

1:04:38>> I have sort of slowly begun my way

1:04:40around it. But if it if did you download

1:04:42it or No, you just got right from there.

1:04:43That's okay. Then I'll find it.

1:04:45>> That's a Oh, really? Oh, because it was

1:04:47>> I have seen it. It's for the whole city.

1:04:52>> You have to go down.

1:04:53>> Okay. Okay.

1:04:55>> Okay. Thank you. I know what it is.

1:04:57>> You're supposed to submit three like

1:04:59three photos at least three. The photo

1:05:02that was there was a picture of us when

1:05:04we did the um

1:05:08>> the the training

1:05:10>> and um and it's not even a kayak member.

1:05:13>> Should we take a photo today then?

1:05:14>> I think so.

1:05:15>> We have Brenda. Good idea.

1:05:17>> No, we can do is we can stand in front

1:05:19of the screen with Brenda.

1:05:21>> Don't you notice we don't have Brenda

1:05:22anymore?

1:05:24>> No, I think we do. I think we do.

1:05:26>> That's not see.

1:05:30No, she's there. She's

1:05:32>> Oh, she just probably dropped for a

1:05:34second and she touched a call.

1:05:36>> No, she's there. I'm sorry. It's also

1:05:38cuz I think she had to drop for a second

1:05:40and then Bernie just raised her hand.

1:05:41>> We did take a photo of

1:05:45>> I'm here.

1:05:46>> All right. So, um, so we should take a

1:05:49photo. Uh, and we have 15 minutes, maybe

1:05:5320 minutes for to wrap up. So, we'll

1:05:54take a photo. Can we have just put one

1:05:56photo in

1:05:58>> or we can put the other finger in?

1:05:59Senior

1:06:00>> photo

1:06:01senior photo. So we don't even need to

1:06:04>> and we have a photo of retirement.

1:06:07>> Yeah.

1:06:07>> Okay. All right. So we all right. I

1:06:09don't have no idea where they are, but

1:06:10it doesn't have to have every Does

1:06:11anybody know where the photos are?

1:06:14>> You just be nice to have a picture of

1:06:17the senior heroes this year.

1:06:18>> Yeah. We can put that in

1:06:20>> last year. Okay. I don't I don't have

1:06:22access to these photos and I'm supposed

1:06:24to deliver them. Who would have access

1:06:25to the photos? I'll leave you the photo.

1:06:27>> Do you have a photo? So Terry has photos

1:06:29of the events. So the one that I'm going

1:06:30to put in a request from Terry and she

1:06:33would have one from the seniors. I do

1:06:36not have one with all.

1:06:37>> Do we should we take a photo of

1:06:38>> Yeah, I think we should.

1:06:40>> Can we do it with a second?

1:06:42>> Let me take my my thing and I'll just

1:06:43take it. This is our current board.

1:06:45>> Okay.

1:06:50Go show her picture. If you go

1:06:57I don't really want to end

1:06:59our separate reform or the state as

1:07:03well.

1:07:03>> Oh,

1:07:05state formula.

1:07:06>> Yes, that's a separate.

1:07:10>> Okay. Somebody else.

1:07:17Maybe not worth trying to get Brenda in

1:07:19here because

1:07:23[laughter]

1:07:27>> and Brenda's name

1:07:30>> and Luciana of course. Yeah. Yeah.

1:07:32Right. Okay.

1:07:33>> Only a partial photo.

1:07:35>> A partial photo camera.

1:07:39And then you know it is

1:07:42>> should have worn my black. God.

1:07:45Maybe those couple over here so you

1:07:48don't have to fall in by his head.

1:07:50>> All right. You get Tatis high and then

1:07:52you don't have to do anything.

1:07:53>> Okay. The boys look right together.

1:07:56>> That's it. Anyway, I'm just kidding.

1:07:58>> And you can edit it,

1:07:59>> right? One, two, three.

1:08:03One, two, three.

1:08:05>> All right. Seniors.

1:08:07>> Senior.

1:08:08>> All right. Thank you. All right. Done.

1:08:10Thank you so much. Got to get at least

1:08:12one picture for them. Sorry, Brenda. Too

1:08:14far for

1:08:16>> That's okay.

1:08:17>> Okay. Um Okay, that's the annual report.

1:08:21You will be seeing that before it

1:08:23actually goes up. Um it's the city

1:08:25government education initiative. I I put

1:08:28it for Utah. This is sort of like a

1:08:32again it's just sort of new business.

1:08:33It's the idea of do we really need an an

1:08:36open meeting law?

1:08:40Go ahead.

1:08:42>> Nothing. Sorry.

1:08:43>> Oh. Um,

1:08:45I mean, at this point in time, you're

1:08:46just kind of filling us in when when

1:08:48meetings are happening, but do you think

1:08:50that we need some more like be educated

1:08:52as a board in terms of like, I don't

1:08:54know, open meeting laws or

1:08:57>> we're supposed to take the value of this

1:09:00in

1:09:02>> being alert to what's on the rock, you

1:09:06know, as far as listening. For instance,

1:09:10this evening at 7:00 Oh, in the memorial

1:09:13hall,

1:09:15um there is a board of health

1:09:19publicly hearing

1:09:21about um new fee schedule for

1:09:24restaurants, marijuana, animals, stuff,

1:09:27you know, permits.

1:09:29It's possible, you know, especially for

1:09:32senior has a pet that I I don't know

1:09:36what's involved with having permits for

1:09:38animals and where that where what

1:09:41premises might be involved in that. Uh

1:09:44the parks are also meeting tonight at

1:09:467:00 and one thing which they

1:09:50it seems I haven't gone through a lot of

1:09:52their agenda yet but um is

1:09:55accessibility.

1:09:56>> Yeah. and you know how what's going on

1:09:59with that. So that's another thing I'm

1:10:01I'm trying there there's a site uh

1:10:04within the Firmingham

1:10:08uh of agendas and upcoming agendas. I'm

1:10:12going to be be trying to keep that under

1:10:15review. Um there's also an interesting

1:10:19advisory

1:10:21uh commission which is for and this I

1:10:26don't know if they're very active but it

1:10:29was torn in winter sometime uh called

1:10:32Asian black Brazilian Hispanic Latino

1:10:38business it's for businesses and it

1:10:40would seem to me that kind of um it was

1:10:43coming up as Pat was getting into that a

1:10:47bit about about the different churches

1:10:48and and the various cultural

1:10:51communities. Yeah. You know, something

1:10:53like that would be very good. So,

1:10:55>> was that sponsored by the downtown um

1:10:58there's like a downtown but it sounds

1:11:00like

1:11:02business

1:11:02>> district association.

1:11:05Okay.

1:11:06>> And there so I remember meeting the the

1:11:08head of it and I was doing some stuff at

1:11:11the city hall um gardens uh and he came

1:11:14out to us. This is about a year ago. So,

1:11:17um, but they they are really trying to

1:11:20um

1:11:22they really try to, uh, incorporate all

1:11:24the business leaders in downtown and

1:11:26they they meet. So it's I wonder if it's

1:11:29if the response is that

1:11:32separate from

1:11:32>> Birmingham public library you know

1:11:34they're they have meetings too and you

1:11:37know the trust board of trustees we

1:11:39definitely want to keep uh you know the

1:11:42eyes on what what they're what's coming

1:11:44up with them too

1:11:45>> actually and you heard Don say that we

1:11:47would maybe have a representative

1:11:50maybe even I don't we want to have a

1:11:52rotating thing that's not much more to

1:11:54coordinate but we want to have one

1:11:56person dedicated There's a sub committee

1:11:59>> of the city council

1:12:01which has a very long um title

1:12:06>> council on economic development but at

1:12:09the end of that title they mention of

1:12:12all things veterans.

1:12:15>> So

1:12:16>> all things veterans vote.

1:12:18>> Yeah. So that that would be something

1:12:20else that um you know I I want to keep

1:12:23um a breast on and try to find out what

1:12:26what

1:12:26>> would you would you be are you going to

1:12:28go to some of these things or come and

1:12:30see I'm going to try to certainly

1:12:33advertise them let us let let us all

1:12:36know of those

1:12:39>> thank you that's great and that's what

1:12:41we I mean there's already a lot of

1:12:42happenings here that we could just tap

1:12:43into in terms of you know for the

1:12:45listening if you will um This also as

1:12:49Janet was saying um she's part of that

1:12:51subcommittee on

1:12:53>> physicians appointment

1:12:57>> and um so you know I think we all went

1:13:00to that and it is open it is open to the

1:13:04public

1:13:05>> but that's after the people have been

1:13:09decided by the mayor and go and it's

1:13:11like a rough stamp most of the time

1:13:14basically you never know how many people

1:13:16applied

1:13:17I mean, people have applied over the

1:13:20last teen times

1:13:23and those are sitting there and a lot of

1:13:26times people haven't heard back,

1:13:28>> right?

1:13:29>> But but that's but a lot of people don't

1:13:32hear back and then all of a sudden they

1:13:34see it on this we need to move forward.

1:13:37>> Yes.

1:13:38>> I was going to finish a little business

1:13:42money

1:13:43>> tax reduction requirement.

1:13:44>> Yeah, go for it. and I've done some

1:13:47research and the paperwork is lacking

1:13:50because I have trouble downloading what

1:13:53what I managed to do is converse with a

1:13:56key person's

1:13:58office as well as the treasur's office

1:14:02and now I learned there's four the

1:14:05treasurer was very there's another one

1:14:08of these little committees that has

1:14:10about four people on it that says it's

1:14:13something to do with tax rate Well, what

1:14:15it is is a group that works under the

1:14:18assessor to see who gets some of the

1:14:21funds from the donations that come in

1:14:25both your excise taxes and your real

1:14:28estate tax. Then they collect that all

1:14:30at people can apply for it and then they

1:14:35meet once a year decide who gets how

1:14:38much what share. So Luciana wanted to

1:14:41combine that with the other things that

1:14:44are tax relief

1:14:46done by the accessories. They're guided

1:14:48by two state laws. So it's complicated.

1:14:52So I asked the assessor, would you be

1:14:54willing to give a presentation on it and

1:14:56the call center? She said yes.

1:15:00>> Wonderful.

1:15:00>> So I think

1:15:01>> I thought it would be a Terry thing.

1:15:03Yeah. For the public at large. First

1:15:05thing is there's work off with jobs for

1:15:09your taxes and she said that's under the

1:15:12control.

1:15:13>> Yeah.

1:15:13>> Right now of no other.

1:15:14>> Yep.

1:15:15>> But people need to know about that.

1:15:17>> So that's in the courier. It's on

1:15:19Facebook. Yes.

1:15:20>> Um I have about five participants right

1:15:24now.

1:15:24>> This is the job thing where you get your

1:15:27property tax work program. But I think

1:15:29what you're he's talking about is

1:15:31different from that even

1:15:34one. It's one

1:15:35>> it's one of four options.

1:15:36>> Yes. So the presentation would be

1:15:38potentially even large and little

1:15:40>> all okay. So we would need

1:15:42>> where you go what are the deadlines. The

1:15:45problem I see talking to the assessor

1:15:48that they have some rules from the state

1:15:50law that are very outmoded as far as

1:15:54disqualifying incomes. They're like 20

1:15:57years out of date. Yeah.

1:15:58>> So most of us here who have any kind of

1:16:01pension or even social security are

1:16:04probably above those cuts.

1:16:06>> So you can't really save using those

1:16:08laws

1:16:09>> right now. So that's a matter which I

1:16:12will take it upon myself to talk to at

1:16:14least one of the state legislature and

1:16:17say you guys ever want to take a look at

1:16:19this as the rules are really very out

1:16:22ofdate. So there's also then an effort

1:16:24and of putting together this kind of a

1:16:27group with all four of these aspects

1:16:30into a program that we would then go to

1:16:32Noelia Terry about

1:16:34>> and we would have somebody from the

1:16:36>> board who

1:16:38championed that and got the tag the

1:16:40right people and

1:16:41>> the sensessors

1:16:44have a very nice one pager with the two

1:16:47laws and somehow when I downloaded it I

1:16:50couldn't refine to And but we could go

1:16:54try to send a link to free

1:16:57>> put in our minutes.

1:16:58>> All right.

1:16:59>> But we we could talk about actually

1:17:01helping to create that very happening in

1:17:03here where there's an education.

1:17:05>> Well, no, that's going to be too soon.

1:17:07>> I mean, Terry's already booked

1:17:09everything October.

1:17:11We're talking January. I mean,

1:17:14>> November

1:17:16year.

1:17:17>> I don't What is the deadline to apply

1:17:20for these things? Yes, she might.

1:17:22>> Two months in advance.

1:17:23>> Two months in terms of booking somebody.

1:17:25>> Two months before you have this, she

1:17:28already has it looked up.

1:17:29>> Is that what you meant? The question,

1:17:30how far in advance do we need to request

1:17:32a potential meeting of?

1:17:34>> The question I had was for these tax

1:17:38breaks.

1:17:38>> So for what is the deadline? Because you

1:17:41would want to present it after the

1:17:43deadline by,

1:17:44>> right?

1:17:45>> You want you would want to have the

1:17:46presentation prior to when applications

1:17:50for these programs all go forward for

1:17:52it.

1:17:53>> Might be before the January.

1:17:56>> Okay. So Pat, will you let us know

1:17:58because it this may push the whole thing

1:18:00to next year because maybe it's already

1:18:02>> people need to know.

1:18:03>> They need to know probably three or four

1:18:04months in advance. So to think about it.

1:18:07>> Yeah. This is a lot of stuff they have

1:18:09to submit. I can imagine the form is

1:18:12supposed to be your August.

1:18:14>> All right. K. That's And you're already

1:18:15down here for this. Obviously, we won't

1:18:17hear from Luciana right now.

1:18:19No, she took some initiative when she

1:18:21was trying to get them all combined into

1:18:23one easy application and that's not

1:18:25going to happen.

1:18:26>> Can't it can't I get the impression that

1:18:28it can't happen because of the way you

1:18:29know that you can't raise funds for

1:18:31using this organization. There's some

1:18:33reason for it.

1:18:34>> So there's

1:18:36>> separate laws

1:18:36>> and separate laws right

1:18:40>> and need and need to be separate because

1:18:42of the laws. Yeah,

1:18:43>> that's the impression I got. relative to

1:18:45educating the population that is

1:18:47something that the council on aging

1:18:48would be to try to put a program.

1:18:51Exactly.

1:18:52>> Okay. I'm not sure uh Brenda is the

1:18:55Senior Heroes of just started. Um

1:18:58>> we wanted to let you know that we've

1:19:02given

1:19:03Noel and Terry uh and Emily the the

1:19:09pictures from the event.

1:19:11>> Okay. and we're hoping that it's going

1:19:14to be on the screen now there rolling

1:19:17thing and also as you're leaving we have

1:19:21a nice little booklet that I have this

1:19:24the only one but going and I'll send you

1:19:28a copy of the picture here

1:19:32>> that we can capture in this annual

1:19:34>> yes that's what you want that picture

1:19:37but I want it in a way that I can

1:19:38deliver it

1:19:39>> yes

1:19:39>> Brenda maybe have You probably send me

1:19:42an email. Send me an email.

1:19:44>> And Brenda, anything else you want to

1:19:46add?

1:19:46>> No, we're going to we're starting to get

1:19:49ourselves organized for another

1:19:51successful year. Thanks, Kathy, for

1:19:53jumping in.

1:19:55>> Okay. All right. So, I'm going to jump

1:19:56in here. We got two minutes here. Um,

1:19:58the welcome birthday letters. I I could

1:20:01get the list together, but I actually

1:20:02have a an idea. Maybe it's time to

1:20:04change that letter because again, the

1:20:06letter is about the Callahan Center, not

1:20:08the board. and our opportunity is to

1:20:10talk about the board. So, I'd like to

1:20:12actually I started to rewrite it a bit.

1:20:14So, I need a subcommittee on rewriting

1:20:16this letter.

1:20:20[laughter]

1:20:26>> All right. So, I'm going to start again.

1:20:28I will I will try I will see this is the

1:20:30same kind of idea the report. I'll start

1:20:32to send it. You know, what do you think?

1:20:34And I won't get a quorum or whatever.

1:20:37And all right, I'll stay loosey goosey.

1:20:40But I in general, what do you guys think

1:20:42about redoing the letter relative to

1:20:43having it be about

1:20:45>> Okay, I got a yes.

1:20:47>> I think we still need the Highland, the

1:20:49Galahan Center.

1:20:50>> No question. But it's all about the

1:20:52Callahan Center right now.

1:20:53>> Okay.

1:20:54>> Yeah, you feel the same way.

1:20:55>> Yeah. Yeah.

1:20:56>> Yeah. Because I was going to say, I

1:20:57mean, we're not going to tell people

1:20:58that there

1:21:00will

1:21:02opportunity. Do you see?

1:21:03>> Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. But but it

1:21:05was all about that. It was the focus and

1:21:07the council on aging wasn't even well

1:21:09mentioned with ties with library because

1:21:13continuing education.

1:21:16>> Yes. And the whole new chain. Yes.

1:21:18There's another reason. Okay. So, I we

1:21:20can do another grouping of letters after

1:21:21we get the letter together. Kathy, you

1:21:22want

1:21:23>> um just a quick memo. Yeah.

1:21:26>> National Drug Takeback Day for the city

1:21:30is um Saturday

1:21:32>> October

1:21:33>> October 24th.

1:21:35>> Y

1:21:35>> from 10 to 2.

1:21:37>> Okay.

1:21:37>> So hopefully we can get that in in the

1:21:40carrier too.

1:21:41>> I I know Susan Patron puts that sort of

1:21:43stuff up.

1:21:44>> Um

1:21:44>> Okay. I'm not sure we need

1:21:46>> I don't want to read calendar at the

1:21:48city hall.

1:21:50>> Yeah.

1:21:51>> All right. We have to uh we have one

1:21:53more thing before we I don't want to do

1:21:54calendar. So necessarily the same with

1:21:56the friends but the friends anything

1:21:58Mary you want to you want to pound our

1:22:00way here?

1:22:01>> I will be brief very brief and more but

1:22:04I'll be brief. Um one of the most

1:22:06exciting new initiatives is our friends

1:22:08of Calahan dream big life enrichment

1:22:11scholarship program.

1:22:12>> That's great.

1:22:12>> It's created to help seniors pursue an

1:22:15experience class activity or personal

1:22:18fold that might otherwise be out of

1:22:20reach. Dream big reflects arguably that

1:22:24there is no age limit on learning,

1:22:26growing, and discovering for dreaming.

1:22:28And we have these um I already launched

1:22:30this. We have um forms that can be

1:22:34picked up either I have to find any

1:22:36front desk. Yeah, I have to front desk

1:22:38at front desk uh during our listening

1:22:41hour and on Tuesdays when I'm in the

1:22:43office.

1:22:45>> Great. So congratulations. Hopefully

1:22:47we'll make somebody's dream come true.

1:22:49[laughter] I mean something that you've

1:22:51always wanted to do.

1:22:52>> We didn't care about that when you

1:22:53actually consented to

1:22:54>> Is it is it what you wanted to do

1:22:58for the killing?

1:22:59>> No, no, no. Say you wanted to take it

1:23:01just say a photography class. A you

1:23:04wanted to learn or an art class. Maybe

1:23:06the Danford might have an art class that

1:23:08you might and it's it it was not only

1:23:11based on need because sometimes people

1:23:14have money but not extra money to do

1:23:17something like this.

1:23:18>> Yeah. So it'll be great that they can

1:23:21maybe pursue a night course somewhere.

1:23:23Whatever it might be lifelong learning

1:23:25we can I don't know what the funds will

1:23:27be yet. We have to um see how much

1:23:29funding comes in. We're going to go into

1:23:31uh we're going to probably address u big

1:23:33banks and big businesses to maybe

1:23:36sponsor this program for

1:23:38>> good.

1:23:39>> And we'd like to either do one we'd like

1:23:41to do two seniors maybe. We're hoping to

1:23:43do two but at least one.

1:23:45>> Well no we are going to do one but at

1:23:47least Yeah.

1:23:49per year or

1:23:51>> well

1:23:51>> not for a class

1:23:52>> probably for for

1:23:53>> not for a degree

1:23:55>> we know we can't do a whole degree but

1:23:57it'll get them started on

1:23:59>> yeah I mean whatever it might be I mean

1:24:01I can't say I can't say we can't I can't

1:24:04say we're going to take you to college

1:24:05for four years [laughter]

1:24:07>> so like if you wanted like if you wanted

1:24:09to take a a a

1:24:13claim

1:24:14>> yeah something something that's

1:24:16>> like yeah So the question I have is does

1:24:19a person have a requirement after they

1:24:21take it to report back to you?

1:24:24>> We will have that too. Yes.

1:24:26>> And we will do what we'll do is whoever

1:24:31that can get.

1:24:32>> What I'm just giving them money. It'll

1:24:33be we'll write it out to the particular

1:24:36place they're interested in in his

1:24:38ending.

1:24:39>> Oops.

1:24:40>> All right. I'm going to jump for one

1:24:41last topic and then we got to get

1:24:42started.

1:24:43>> Can I ask couple questions?

1:24:46>> Mary. hit

1:24:48>> real quick.

1:24:48>> How's your lunch thing going?

1:24:50>> Oh, lunches are great. They're doing

1:24:52really great.

1:24:53>> You're on to one a month or two a month?

1:24:56>> No, we can only do one. We can only do

1:24:58one. We can only handle one a month.

1:25:00>> We're on parking. Parking is the big

1:25:02issue. Parking is the big issue.

1:25:03>> And then travel, you're doing a little

1:25:06>> We're doing that. We're still We're

1:25:07going to have a travel program September

1:25:0928th here at 2 o'clock at the Blaze

1:25:11Room. And that'll be uh we're going to

1:25:13have best of times come out and we're

1:25:14going to have the people not we're not

1:25:16going to tell them where we're going.

1:25:18We're going to ask the people where they

1:25:20want to go.

1:25:20>> Good.

1:25:21>> And that way we'll have ideas of what

1:25:22they bring the ideas to us.

1:25:25>> I'm trying to think what attracted me to

1:25:27come after I retired

1:25:28>> was the travel and the lunch is where we

1:25:31meet.

1:25:32>> But travel is very we're learning that

1:25:34it is it is hard to do this. We have a

1:25:37>> I have a well myself and two other

1:25:39volunteers have joined us and it's it's

1:25:43just it's a almost a full-time job.

1:25:46>> The friends hired someone working full

1:25:49time.

1:25:49>> All right, I'm going to cut all the

1:25:51time.

1:25:51>> All right, guys. We have one more big

1:25:53thing and that is the Springwell

1:25:55liaison. Do you need a Springwell

1:25:57liaison? What? You know what I'm talking

1:25:59about when I say Springwell liazison.

1:26:01Everybody knows.

1:26:02>> Definitely need it.

1:26:04>> Everybody knows what that is.

1:26:05There are the meat flying.

1:26:08>> I actually thought about doing but I'm

1:26:09not a lot of them because I'm I was

1:26:11spring volunteering.

1:26:13>> Oh, you are?

1:26:13>> Well, they came to our meeting last

1:26:15month.

1:26:16>> I never too young.

1:26:18>> So, I kind of knew of some of those

1:26:19things because

1:26:19>> they're the go-to if you want meals on

1:26:21wheels. So, I understand.

1:26:22>> They are.

1:26:24So they have a Springwell board meeting

1:26:28which I asked Lisa if any of us the

1:26:30employees go and that either um someone

1:26:34from the COA board or someone from the

1:26:36friends used to be the ones that would

1:26:38attend these meetings. Um, so that's why

1:26:41I wanted to check if we want to see if

1:26:43any one of you would like to um be it's

1:26:47a pronounced

1:26:51>> how is this how often are they supposed

1:26:53to go? So I check with you guys before

1:26:55checking with them.

1:26:56>> We did talk about this last year. I do

1:26:58remember we mentioned it because I did I

1:27:00got some information about it. We

1:27:02actually had somebody from Springwell

1:27:03talk about the board, but it would be

1:27:04one member because they have to sort of

1:27:06accept you in um and uh when I went to

1:27:09the Walt bands Council on Aging, there

1:27:11was the Spring Well, there was the

1:27:12Springwell rep that was part of the

1:27:14board there, you know. Um I think that a

1:27:16lot of it gets involved with fundraising

1:27:18for Springwell. That was the impression

1:27:20I got depending.

1:27:21>> We don't truly,

1:27:22>> right? Right. So, I'm not sure how

1:27:25helpful it is. I don't I don't know

1:27:27enough about it. So, um, what we could

1:27:29do is have have [clears throat] somebody

1:27:31come in again and how, first of all, how

1:27:34important is it for us to have somebody

1:27:37Springville, you know, is this office

1:27:38offers about a bunch of services, you

1:27:41know, but we've had them here before and

1:27:43we got to hear it because we

1:27:45>> had lyrics at the front of this.

1:27:47>> Exactly. So, and I were at the Friends

1:27:50last weekend. We heard the whole spiel

1:27:52again, if you will, from Springwell, all

1:27:53the things that they do. Um they're the

1:27:56they're our area aging service this

1:27:58place.

1:27:59>> Um and I don't know relative to how

1:28:02anybody got a gut response on wanting to

1:28:04be on the spring roll board.

1:28:06>> I I guess because I wasn't there.

1:28:09>> Okay. Still on vacation last year they

1:28:12came too. Yeah.

1:28:15>> We actually the same dude that spoke at

1:28:17the friends came last year.

1:28:19>> Larry Larry

1:28:20>> Larry Porer. If you look at our old

1:28:22challenges, they had a slot in there.

1:28:24They used to be in that army, right?

1:28:27>> And then that representing the left

1:28:29>> and we dropped the whole thing of

1:28:31spring.

1:28:32>> Yeah. We had we had someone that we take

1:28:34about the ongoing agenda.

1:28:36>> Yeah. Every month. Every month.

1:28:38>> We never

1:28:39>> Well, we never Well, since I've been

1:28:40coming, there was never a

1:28:41>> ref.

1:28:43It's been a long time since I made

1:28:45money. So our agendas or our

1:28:49um referrals are very much the same. We

1:28:53we

1:28:54>> the list remember he's a list guy.

1:28:56>> Yes. He's so this guy and we're going to

1:28:58work out a list that we're going to be

1:29:00able to actually go.

1:29:02>> Well actually the social worker who's

1:29:04going to be hired will have that list.

1:29:06>> Oh well it's the social worker has that

1:29:09list.

1:29:11Of course she would. Yeah.

1:29:12>> Yeah. She's the main list person. um in

1:29:16terms of who who do I go to for this or

1:29:18that or this in terms of a service.

1:29:19>> Well, that's why they need a second

1:29:21social worker.

1:29:22>> Yeah.

1:29:23>> So, I guess I guess I would like to to

1:29:25table that for now. I'll put it back on

1:29:27the agenda and I think I'll do it in

1:29:29coordination with to me the person we

1:29:31have not heard from yet is our own

1:29:33social worker, Lisa,

1:29:35>> who I would love to hear what she means.

1:29:38Yes,

1:29:38>> she is a font of information. I mean,

1:29:41>> definitely. So, I'll I'll try to get her

1:29:44on the next one of the next groups.

1:29:46>> Yeah.

1:29:47>> Yes. I think I think her response to

1:29:50what our needs are and whether we should

1:29:52go would be really interesting to hear.

1:29:54>> Absolutely. Yes.

1:29:56>> I'm a little bit uh I'm not quite clear

1:29:58on

1:29:59>> what we would gain

1:30:00>> what [clears throat] we would contribute

1:30:02>> or contribute to.

1:30:03>> Yeah.

1:30:03>> I'd say we deferred.

1:30:05>> I said, "Okay, we're going to defer." I

1:30:06I I'll get to talk to I will talk to

1:30:08Lisa. Lis Lisa.

1:30:10>> Lisa. Yes. Okay, she's wonderful.

1:30:13>> All right, guys. Uh, I have that we've

1:30:15gone through all my points not in order

1:30:17at all. [laughter]

1:30:19But hey, we need to get out of here so

1:30:20they clean up the room. Any last

1:30:23thoughts?

1:30:24>> I have one last.

1:30:25>> Um, I was in a meeting with NCOA last

1:30:28week. They do have a

1:30:32Massachusetts Council on Aging.

1:30:35can go.

1:30:36>> So they have a resource guide or council

1:30:39on aging board members

1:30:42that I'll share with you guys. They also

1:30:46they can also come to one of the meeting

1:30:48and do a training if you would like. So

1:30:51I wanted to check with you

1:30:52[clears throat] saying before I reach

1:30:53out to them and say

1:30:56that's something you're interested.

1:30:58>> I would suggest that a training like

1:30:59this to be outside of the board meeting.

1:31:02>> Yes.

1:31:02>> I say that it's a separate meeting. It's

1:31:05only about the train.

1:31:06>> Yes.

1:31:07>> Are you okay with that?

1:31:09>> Okay. Yes. The answer is yes. And then

1:31:12give us a little time to coordinate

1:31:14timing. I mean, Marie's up to arrivals

1:31:16and things right now. I know. Uh so

1:31:21>> October.

1:31:26Okay.

1:31:27>> Could it be on Zoom? I can check to see.

1:31:31>> We could, but it's a lot more fun to be

1:31:32in person. a lot more fun if we can. I

1:31:35>> Well, they're just starting to regen the

1:31:36training as I understand them.

1:31:39>> Yes. For a while.

1:31:40>> Yes. So, there is a new person that took

1:31:43over.

1:31:46>> Yes.

1:31:46>> Okay. Good.

1:31:47>> And we're looking maybe not September. I

1:31:49don't know about

1:31:51you guys.

1:31:53yet

1:31:59we're talking

1:32:02crazy.

1:32:04>> All right, so that's on me, guys. You're

1:32:06going to get an email from me, Brenda,

1:32:08too, about what what might be good

1:32:10dates. I'll just throw some out and yes

1:32:12or no, we'll get one. And that's kind of

1:32:14silly because the expense,

1:32:16>> you know, go back and forth a million

1:32:18times. Maybe they should throw out. How

1:32:20f how flexible are they in terms of

1:32:22>> I'm not sure.

1:32:23>> All right. You can give us a reality

1:32:24check and you can include me in an email

1:32:26and we'll go that I'll email them and

1:32:29say

1:32:30>> and this is Cynthia and we'll go back

1:32:32and forth six times an email between you

1:32:35and

1:32:37>> all right guys

1:32:39>> last words.

1:32:41You got to have a

1:32:44turn. What do you call that? I want to

1:32:45get that motion to hear.

1:32:48I'm so non.

1:32:50>> Are you giving us a motion to return?

1:32:52>> Yes.

1:32:52>> Okay. Second.

1:32:53>> Second.

1:32:55>> All agree.

1:32:59>> Yes.

1:33:00>> All right. We got it all. All right. We

1:33:03get the hell out. Can we help?

1:33:05>> No, that's fine.

1:33:06>> All right. I'm going to do this.

1:33:11They have a