2026-09-15 - Planning Board - PB-410 Alewife Quadrangle
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- The Planning Board held the second required public hearing on PB-410, the Alewife Quadrangle planned unit development, and voted 7-0 by roll call to grant the requested special permits, subject to conditions in the Community Development, Traffic and Parking, and Public Works memos and an urban design appendix. The board also agreed to extend the deadline to file its written decision to November 13, 2026.
- Before the hearing, staff announced upcoming items (a September 22 zoning petition at Technology Square, October 6 reviews at Bay State Road and CambridgeSide) and the board approved the July 21 and August 4 meeting transcripts by roll call.
- Staff noted the board's April 28 preliminary determination was positive. James Rafferty and the applicant team (Healthpeak, with architects, a landscape architect, transportation and sustainability consultants) presented a plan with about 2,300 housing units, 76,000 square feet of neighborhood retail and other uses, over 12 acres of open space and about $300 million of infrastructure.
- Parking: the zoning maximum is about 4,900 spaces and an earlier plan had about 4,600. The team committed to cut supply to about 3,900 as leases turn over, with a monitored future potential of 3,648, and described shared parking and a transportation demand management plan. The board noted parking could shrink further if the bridge and transit reduce demand.
- Transit and bridge: a letter from the MBTA general manager commits to studying a pedestrian and bicycle bridge and reporting back within three years; the bridge is tied to construction milestones in the phasing, and full build-out is limited without it. The team also offered more than $20 million of Concord Avenue corridor improvements, full signalization at Smith Street and Concord Avenue, shuttle funding, more than 3,500 bicycle spaces and six Bluebikes stations.
- Design and sustainability: the plan adds a relocated Mooney Street, a larger land conveyance to the Department of Public Works of about 1.25 acres, new parks and plazas, district stormwater, electric vehicle charging commitments, early neighborhood-use activation, LEED Gold targets and a possible shared geothermal or district energy system being explored with Eversource and the city.
- Public comment raised building height and shadows on neighbors (especially two buildings nearest existing homes), Public Works yard noise and construction hours, maintenance of the Loomis Street connection, and the timing of the bridge, with others praising the open space and outreach.
- Board discussion: members said open space felt fragmented and urged a tree-forward design with a distinct identity for each park, earlier design review than building permit, tying a Concord Avenue study contribution to an earlier milestone, a broader list of neighborhood uses and a diverse unit mix. Staff, including Melissa Peters and Jeff Roberts, said the project fulfills the Envision Cambridge Alewife vision. The applicant said garages get separate design review and that phases can be swapped by minor amendment but not across the bridge milestone.
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00:50Do you want me to start again?
00:52>> Yes.
00:52>> Okay, I'll start again. Welcome to the
00:54September 15, 2026 meeting of the
00:57Cambridge Planning Board. My name is Tom
00:59Savvich and I am the chair. Pursuant to
01:03chapter two of the acts of 2025 adopted
01:06by the Massachusetts General Court and
01:07approved by the governor, the city is
01:10authorized to use remote participation
01:12at meetings of the Cambridge Planning
01:14Board. All board members, applicants,
01:17and members of the public will state
01:19their name before speaking and all votes
01:21will be taken by roll call. Members of
01:25the public will be kept on mute until
01:26it's time for public comment. I will
01:29give instructions for public comment. at
01:31that time. You can also find
01:32instructions on the city's web page for
01:35remote planning board meetings. This
01:37meeting is being video and audio
01:39recorded and is being streamed live on
01:42the city of Cambridge's online meeting
01:44portal and on cable television channel
01:4622 within Cambridge. There will also be
01:49a transcript made of these proceedings.
01:52I will start by asking staff to take
01:54board member attendance and verify that
01:57all members are audible.
01:59>> Uh thank you. This is Jeff Roberts from
02:01CDD and um I will uh for for those of
02:04you who are present, you just need to
02:06say present, but for those who are
02:07remote, I'll I'll check to make sure
02:08that that everything is audible. H.
02:10Theodore Cohen,
02:12>> present. Uh Mary Flynn, are you present
02:15and is the meeting visible and audible
02:17to you?
02:19>> Uh yes, I'm present and it is both
02:20visible and audible.
02:22>> Thank you, Mary. uh Mary Liecker
02:26and and um I'll note that planning board
02:28members should uh we're kind of sharing
02:29mics but you should turn the mic on to
02:31speak or else it probably won't get
02:32picked up. Uh so Mary Lighter
02:36>> present.
02:36>> Thank you. Diego MSAS
02:39>> present. Thank you. Ashley Tan
02:44>> present.
02:45>> Thank you Ashley. Carolyn Zern
02:48>> present.
02:49>> Thank you Carolyn. Uh, associate member
02:51Dan Anderson,
02:53>> present.
02:54>> Thank you, Dan. Uh, and, uh, that means
02:57that there are, uh, seven planning board
03:00members present, uh, one remote and one
03:03associate member present.
03:06>> Thank you, Jeff. Um, the first item will
03:08be an update from the community
03:09development department. So, if you would
03:12please also introduce any staff staff
03:14that are present or working virtually
03:16tonight.
03:18>> Thank you again. Uh this is Jeff
03:20Roberts. I'm the director of zoning and
03:21development at the community development
03:23department and uh we have many staff
03:25with us here this evening. So from from
03:27the zoning and development team, Swathy
03:29Joseph is here and Emily Hutchkins is
03:31here who's been working on this case. Um
03:33we have the assistant city manager for
03:35community development uh Melissa Peters
03:38and uh she'll be speaking to us a little
03:41bit. Um we also have from the community
03:43planning and design division uh Daniel
03:46Mesplay who's the director of that
03:47division. We expect to be joined by um
03:49the urban designer Eric Thorkelson um at
03:52some point who's coming in from a a
03:56voyage. Um I won't say any more than
03:58that. Uh we also have uh from our
04:00department of transportation uh Brooke
04:02McKenna is here the the commissioner I
04:04believe. Oh and behind people so I can't
04:07see her. Stephanie Gro the director of
04:10transportation planning. Um Adam
04:12Schulman, transportation planner is
04:14here. And from the department of public
04:16works, we have James Wilcox, the um city
04:19engineer, and Cara Feliz uh from the
04:22engineering division. So that I think
04:24covers all the staff who are present. Um
04:26and oh, I'm sorry, from also from
04:28Department of Transportation, we have
04:29Ryan McKinnon who's who's joined us on
04:31Zoom. So uh shifting to some
04:37announcements. Um we have one public
04:40hearing tonight. Um thank you for coming
04:42and as you'll note, we are back in
04:43person. This is the first uh hybrid
04:45meeting of the planning board. It's
04:46actually our first hybrid meeting ever
04:48as a as a public hearing. So for people
04:50who are in attendance, um we're we're
04:52back to the oldfashioned sign-in sheet.
04:54If you are here present and you'd like
04:57to speak at the hearing, we have a
04:58sign-in sheet for you to to use. Um if
05:01you're joining us on Zoom, there will be
05:02an opportunity for public comment. When
05:04we get to public comment, we'll follow
05:05the uh the the uh procedures that we've
05:08been following um for the past 5 years.
05:12So, um, we'll talk about that when we
05:14get to that point. I'll shift to, uh,
05:17future attractions because it's just the
05:19one public hearing tonight. We do have a
05:21meeting next week, September 22nd. We
05:24have a public hearing on a zoning
05:26petition um from uh Alexandria Real
05:29Estate which uh has to do with uh
05:32development rights uh transfer and uh a
05:36additional development rights at
05:37Technology Square for a uh a shift to
05:40affordable housing development um along
05:43First Street. So, we'll we'll get more
05:45into that at next week's hearing. Um, we
05:48also have a couple general business
05:49items. Um, an extension uh and we'll be
05:53discussing a uh a BZA case at 127 Mount
05:57Auburn Street. We uh so two busy
06:01meetings in a row. We won't have a
06:03meeting on September 29th, but we do
06:06have a meeting scheduled on October 6th,
06:08which is a uh a public hearing,
06:10continued public hearing on uh
06:13residential project at 9 and 25 Birch
06:16Street and 30 to 36 Bay State Road. Um
06:19heard a couple months ago by the board.
06:22And we're also going to be uh joined by
06:25the the team on the Cambridge side
06:27development for a general business item,
06:29a review of a signage plan, which is one
06:32of the conditions of the PUD special
06:34permit. Um so I think that's uh enough
06:38to to keep us occupied for a little
06:39while. Shifting a little bit to upcoming
06:42attractions at the city council. There
06:46uh will be tomorrow morning a committee
06:50hearing jointly held by the housing
06:52committee and the neighborhood long-term
06:53planning committee discussing uh multif
06:56family housing. This is a uh a
06:59continuation of a discussion that that
07:01was last uh left off back in June. Um
07:05and we'll be picking up that.
07:07There is a ordinance committee hearing
07:09scheduled for the uh Alexandria zoning
07:12petition that I mentioned earlier on
07:14October 6th. Um and uh a couple other
07:18things just of note. Uh last night the
07:21city council at the regular meeting
07:23adopted the zoning petitions on Massav
07:26and Cambridge Street having to do with
07:28active uses. uh the planning board made
07:31positive recommendations on that and and
07:33had some suggestions, some of which the
07:35the council incorporated into the the
07:38final zoning that that got adopted. Um
07:41so uh so that moves forward. There are
07:44some news on some of the affordable
07:46housing projects that the planning board
07:47has reviewed. Um some of you might have
07:49seen this in the news. the state
07:51announced uh awards of grant funding
07:53which included the uh Corker and Park
07:56development that the housing authority
07:58uh came to the board with and the 28
08:01to30 Wendell Street project that the
08:03board reviewed. So those all will be
08:05receiving state funding and and that
08:08will put them on track to um to go into
08:10development in the in the near future.
08:13And uh the final announcement I'll make
08:15is that we have a a posting um to apply
08:19to be on the planning board. So um and
08:22the the deadline for that is September
08:2421st. Unfortunately, that that got
08:25posted in the kind of long um hiatus
08:29that we had between meetings, so we
08:30weren't able to announce it until now.
08:32Um any Cambridge residents can apply to
08:34be on the planning board. You just have
08:35to send a letter explaining your
08:37interest. So, if you're if you're
08:38watching this meeting and you like what
08:40you see or if you don't like what you
08:41see, you can you can apply to be to be a
08:44member of the planning board. Um, that's
08:47a lot of announcements, but it's been a
08:48long time since we met. Um, I'll leave
08:49it off here and turn it back to the
08:51chair.
08:52>> Thank you, Jeff. Are there any questions
08:53for Jeff from board members?
08:57>> Uh, no one indicates such. Um, so the
08:59next item is an approval of meeting
09:01minutes. The board has received
09:03certified transcripts for the meetings
09:05held on July 21st, August 4th of 2026.
09:10Are there any questions for board
09:12members uh or modifications to the
09:14transcripts? Please uh say your name.
09:18It seems they were complete. Uh only
09:20full board members will act on this
09:22item. Is there a motion to accept the
09:24transcripts as the meeting minutes?
09:26Please say your name.
09:30>> Ted. So moved.
09:32>> Thank you. I'm looking for a second.
09:35>> This is Mary. Second.
09:37>> Great. Thank you, Mary. Roll call vote
09:39on that. Jeff, thank you
09:41>> on that motion. And we we will still be
09:42doing roll call votes since we have a a
09:44remote member. Uh ace Theodore Cohen,
09:47>> yes.
09:48>> Uh yes. Mary Flynn,
09:51>> yes.
09:52>> Mary Lecker,
09:54>> yes.
09:55>> Diego Messias,
09:57>> yes. Ashley Tan,
10:00>> yes.
10:01>> Carolyn Zern,
10:02>> yes.
10:03>> And Thompson Aich,
10:04>> yes.
10:05>> That's all board members voting in
10:06favor.
10:07>> Great. Thank you. Okay, we'll turn our
10:09attention now to agenda item number one.
10:12The next item on the agenda is the
10:13second public hearing on a case PB410,
10:18a development proposal for a planned
10:20unit development by Health Peak OP LLC
10:24to develop multiple parcels in Lwife
10:27Triang Quadrangle into a mixeduse
10:30development including residential,
10:32retail, office and laboratory buildings
10:34as well as municipal service buildings
10:37and sites, publicly beneficial open
10:40space and a pedestrian and bicycle
10:42bridge over the MBTA railway. CDD staff
10:46will provide an update.
10:49>> This is Emily Hutchings from CDD staff.
10:52This is the second of two required
10:54public hearings on this case. The first
10:57hearing was on April 28th and the board
10:59voted to make a positive preliminary
11:01determination on the development
11:03proposal with the finding that it is in
11:06general conformance with the zoning and
11:07planning for the area and provides
11:10public benefits that outweigh its
11:11adverse impacts. The board had provided
11:14a list of questions and comments to be
11:16addressed in the final development plan.
11:18The applicant has submitted a final
11:20development plan including additional
11:22information and responses to the
11:24questions and concerns raised at the
11:26preliminary preliminary determination.
11:29The board's action is to determine
11:31whether the final development plan
11:33remains in conformance with the area
11:35planning and zoning and is responsive to
11:37the requests in the preliminary
11:39determination in order to grant the PUD
11:42special permit. The PUD criteria and the
11:45objectives that were created
11:47specifically for this district are
11:49included in the staff memo along with
11:51other comments on the proposal. DPW and
11:54DOT have also provided memos and staff
11:57from those departments are also present
11:59at this meeting to provide
12:00clarification. Also included in the
12:03staff materials are recommended
12:05conditions for the board's consideration
12:07to attach to the special permit subject
12:09to discussion and final agreement on the
12:12wording before a decision is filed. The
12:14conditions would govern the ongoing
12:16development of the PUD after the special
12:19permit approval, including a design
12:21review and approval process by the board
12:23for each site and a process to approve
12:26future amendments to the plan.
12:30>> Great. Thank you, Emily. Um, I'll now
12:33turn our attention to the applicant
12:34here. The presenter, I understand, will
12:36be attorney Jim Rafferty, presenting for
12:38Health Peak. You have up to 30 minutes
12:41for your presentation, though we hope
12:42you can be as concise as possible since
12:44we've seen this a couple of times. But
12:46please introduce your project and team
12:48before you begin.
12:49>> Thank you.
12:51>> Good evening, Mr. Chair and members of
12:53the board. Um, my name is James Rafy.
12:56I'm an attorney with offices at 907
12:58Massachusetts Avenue and I serve as
13:00local counsel for the applicant health
13:02properties. I'm joined by my co-consel
13:05Anthony Galuchia. Uh just to give you a
13:08little insight into what it's like to
13:10have two local attorneys with egos, we
13:12had an arm wrestling contest about who
13:14would go first this evening. uh even
13:16though he's stronger than me, I pointed
13:18out that anytime the meeting is held in
13:21a venue where his portrait is hanging on
13:23the wall, he should be magnanimous and
13:26step back and he he has agreed to do
13:28that.
13:29But having said that, it is a true
13:32pleasure to be here five years before
13:34this group has met in person and I have
13:36to say without at the risk of being
13:38accused of being syncopantic,
13:40Zoom does not do you people justice. You
13:43look great. Haven't seen you in five
13:45years. I mean, I know that what goes on
13:48here is terribly important and serious,
13:51but I hope you allow me a moment to say
13:54what a personal pleasure it is to return
13:55to a live meeting, to have live members,
13:57to be able to walk around a model, see
14:00people like Mr. Manf Freddy who used to
14:03used to do this a lot more regularly.
14:05But I'm also pleased to report that
14:06what's before you tonight really
14:08represents many, many months of hard
14:10work. hard work not just on behalf of
14:12the applicant but more importantly by
14:16the staff. You'll recall of the time
14:18back in April when the preliminary
14:19determination uh was under
14:21consideration.
14:23It was the case that uh some members
14:26wanted some assurances about what the
14:27next steps were and the next steps have
14:30been very vigorous and I'm pleased to
14:32report that the staff memos that uh
14:35Emily referred to have been a product of
14:39input and collaboration with the
14:40applicant. So, we're able to represent
14:42to you tonight that the proposed
14:44conditions, the elements of mitigation,
14:46and the general findings there are all
14:49in agreement with the applicant. uh and
14:51that isn't uh something that was arrived
14:53at easily because priorities shift and
14:57timing is important. But what really
15:00makes tonight special in my view is this
15:04represents a long sought planning goal
15:07of the city in this section of the city
15:09where we have an opportunity to really
15:11transform uh this corner of the city. I
15:14would only draw to your attention what I
15:16believe is a fairly significant
15:17communication you received very recently
15:20within the last day or two. The question
15:22appropriately has been asked. What is
15:24the status of of the bridge? So much of
15:27the success of this project rests on uh
15:30a pedestrian connection to the LFT
15:32station. The truth of the matter is the
15:34zoning was crafted with that
15:36understanding in mind and in fact limits
15:38whether we ever get to a full build. For
15:41the first time, the zoning in place in
15:43this district limits what can be done
15:45unless a bridge is created. We spent
15:48years working with the T on the bridge
15:49and candidly for the last couple of
15:52years we were making progress in a
15:54certain direction. Then the T uh
15:57informed us that they had some
15:58additional priorities that needed to be
16:00addressed and we winced a bit when we
16:03learned that. But if you look at the
16:04letter from the general manager of the
16:06T, you'll say they they are important
16:08priorities and they really have go to
16:10the heart of what the future of
16:12transportation, public transportation in
16:14that area needs to be. And what the T
16:17has committed to is to engage in a
16:19process of study in a reasonable
16:22timeline, but all the while allowing us
16:24to pursue an an opportunity here. And
16:27special acknowledgement should go to
16:29both Ms. Peters and the city manager who
16:32have showed a level of engagement with
16:34tea leadership, senior tea leadership
16:36that I don't think there's a precedent
16:38for in the city. We would not have the
16:41commitment that we have from the general
16:42manager of the tea without their
16:44involvement. So tonight represents a
16:46chance to really implement the vision
16:50that you approved in the preliminary
16:52termination and all of that will take
16:54place not in a day or in the first year
16:57or two. We are going to set forth here
16:59the network the groundwork for a
17:02decision-making structure that will
17:04involve lots of further involvement uh
17:07by the planning board but most
17:08importantly continued involvement by the
17:10design staff and uh other planning staff
17:13in the city. And we have written into
17:15this zoning a formal role, an advisory
17:18role for neighbors and citizens. And
17:21we're eager to begin that process too to
17:24allow for the communities most affected
17:26by the development to participate
17:28particularly in the determination of
17:29active uses. And uh Anthony will go
17:32through all of that. So thank you. We're
17:35very mindful of the time. We have spent
17:37lots of time shortening our
17:38presentation. So uh bear with us, but I
17:41hope you'll find it informative. But the
17:43true story uh I think in the true uh
17:47results here are in these memos done by
17:50the staff with our collaboration and the
17:53network or the framework organized there
17:55on the decision-making process. We're
17:57very optimistic will allow you to reach
17:58a conclusion that what's before you
18:00tonight uh is appropriate and worthy of
18:03going forward. Thank you very much. Now,
18:05attorney Galuchia.
18:11>> Thank you, Jim. I appreciate it.
18:14>> It's all me.
18:15>> I'm starting to realize I probably
18:16should have put more personal
18:18compliments into my script. [laughter]
18:21But as Jim mentioned, my name is Ryland
18:23Squirrel. I'm a director on the
18:24investments team at Health Peak. And
18:27it's great to see everyone here again
18:29after five months. Um Heidi and I were
18:32reminiscing a couple months ago and went
18:34back and looked through our files um
18:36back before the moratorium, back before
18:38the reszoning, the ale wife working
18:39group to see when our first presentation
18:41was. And as Jim mentioned, our very
18:43first investment memo on the master plan
18:46was September 2021, almost exactly 5
18:50years ago today. Um at that time, if
18:53someone told us the journey that we
18:54would be going on with that first
18:56acquisition, we probably wouldn't have
18:57believed you. But throughout that
18:59journey, it's been extremely rewarding
19:00and we've met many amazing people. Um
19:04many of which is through the work on the
19:05Aewife working group, the MBTA, the city
19:09um and amongst the community. So many of
19:11individuals um have had a chance to
19:14personally leave their touch on this
19:16master plan and make it their own. Many
19:18of those individuals are here in the
19:20room with us today or joining us online.
19:22Um, a handful of them are actually our
19:25team members uh that will be speaking
19:27here tonight. We have David Manf Freddy
19:29and John Mitchell who are our master
19:30plan architects. Then we have Chris
19:33Jones who is our landscape architect who
19:35is joining us virtually. We have Selma
19:37Manzo Pelzik who is our traffic
19:40engineer. Uh Jessica Zofchic who's our
19:42sustainability consultant. And most
19:44importantly we have Michelle Nyaki who
19:46is our fearless leader and the whole
19:48reason why we were able to get through
19:49all 200 plus comments. um in an orderly
19:53fashion. Um and I learned yesterday was
19:56her birthday. So hopefully this meeting
19:59goes well when we give her something to
20:00celebrate. Um but most importantly, I'd
20:05have to say is the residents and the
20:06neighbors that are joining us um who
20:08have been with us through the whole
20:09process. They were there through the
20:11Envision Awife resoning and they are the
20:14reason why the plan is the way that it
20:15is today. Um, we also want to extend a
20:18huge thank you to the city um, for
20:20guiding us through this process, our
20:22countless meetings over these last five
20:23years, particularly in the last six
20:25months. I'm sure they're sick of meeting
20:27with us at this point. Uh, but we really
20:29wanted to make sure we had a great plan
20:31to present to you today and made sure it
20:33addressed all of your concerns. Um, but
20:35it was with the guidance of the city and
20:37the community that our plan now boasts
20:402,300 units of muchneeded housing,
20:4376,000 square ft of retail in the form
20:46of neighborhood uses, over 12 acres of
20:49open space with miles of bike paths
20:52strewn throughout. Um, as well as $300
20:55million of infrastructure investment.
20:57That's in the form of streets,
20:58utilities, sidewalks, bicycle paths, and
21:01also the long- aaited uh pedestrian
21:04bridge, which as Jim mentioned, we've
21:06made significant process on with the
21:08MBTA. Thanks to Melissa Peters and city
21:11manager Huang. Um, we also want to
21:13extend a thank you to planning board
21:14member Cohen for your comments at our
21:17last meeting about how we need to move
21:18the bridge forward. It was your comments
21:20that galvanized the city and the MBTA
21:23that we were able to point to and really
21:24brought them to the table to look at our
21:26vision. Um, additionally, planning board
21:30member Tan, we believe you'll be pleased
21:32with our progress on reducing parking.
21:34Um, with the assistance of Stephanie Gro
21:36and Brook McKenna at DOT, we were able
21:38to reduce our parking by 400 spaces from
21:41the already relatively low zoning
21:42maximums, as well as put in mechanisms
21:45um within the zoning that will reduce
21:47our parking by an additional 900 spaces
21:49over time totaling 1300 spaces around 25
21:53to 30% of our overall approved parking
21:55supply. And after that, our ratio would
21:59be similar to that of Kendall Square,
22:01even though this submarket currently has
22:03a fairly different complexion to Kendall
22:05Square. Um, with all these changes, I
22:07can fullheartedly say that we have
22:09crafted very thoughtful and responsive
22:11master plan here tonight, and we're very
22:14excited to share it with you all. Um,
22:16with the planning board, u planning
22:18board's approval, we will be able to
22:20move forward with final pricing of the
22:22first residential building, which we're
22:24very excited to potentially move
22:25forward. That would include a variety of
22:28early activations that would allow us to
22:30create a sense of place here in Alwife
22:33and start to develop commercial
22:35activity. The secret is residents.
22:38residents unlock the neighborhood uses,
22:40the art installations, the open space,
22:42the connective tissue that is so
22:45desperately missing from the quad that
22:47will allow us to connect and build and
22:49generate commercial activity. There are
22:52many challenges in commercial and
22:54residential development, almost to the
22:56point where it's impossible right now.
22:58But as with the past few years and
23:00today, Health Peak is eager to continue
23:02to move forward in that process and take
23:05the next step to evaluate residential
23:07wholeheartedly as well as get in front
23:10of commercial tenants to take us
23:11seriously with our entitlements and
23:14share with them everything that we've
23:15worked on over the last 5 years. With
23:17that, I just want to thank you all very
23:19very much for all the work, the
23:21substantial substantial amount of work
23:23that so many people have put into this
23:25plan um over the last 5 years. the city,
23:27the MBTA, the Awife working group, the
23:29community. Um, and without further ado,
23:31I'm going pass it off to Anthony to give
23:34us an update on the progress.
23:37>> Thank you, Ran. Uh, that was great and
23:39thanks for your energy. I do want to
23:41point out that the actual reason why
23:43attorney Raffid went first is because
23:45his his mother called me and said she
23:47wanted to see him on TV, but she didn't
23:49want to watch the whole meeting. So, I
23:51wanted to make sure Mrs. Rafidity was
23:53accommodated. Um I want to first um just
23:58take the liberty. Um my role is to sort
24:00of talk about from April till today
24:03which amazingly is five months. And uh
24:06although we um we were very pleased to
24:10to be approved, we were also charged
24:12with a number of issues that we needed
24:14to address that ranged from design to
24:16parking. Jim mentioned the MBTA issue
24:20and a range of issues in between. Um,
24:22and I think we've we've uh been
24:26responsive to those. But Mary, you you
24:28mentioned that we needed to stay in
24:30touch with the neighborhood. Um, which I
24:33love when you do that. It's it's one of
24:35my favorite parts of this this job and
24:37my role. Um, and I I do want to remind
24:40folks the difference between resonings
24:43that Jim and I have done for various
24:45clients and this one is this was a city
24:48um orchestrated and led resoning. So, I
24:51just quickly want to to say tonight in
24:54the plan, you'll see changes,
24:56modifications, and principles um that
24:59really relate back to the original
25:01working group. And I'm just going to
25:02mention um Ann Tennis, John Chun, Lizzie
25:06Fonenbomb. Um Ann and John particularly
25:09were possessed to make sure they could
25:11encourage development for protect the
25:13Highlands. Um Health Peak stepped in,
25:16purchased the land adjacent. uh uh the
25:19city stepped forward, expressed an
25:21interest in a DPW site. Those two things
25:24help protect the Highlands for a long
25:26time. I I just have to say uh
25:29particularly Ant Tennis's name because
25:31she's she's been protecting the
25:33neighborhood for for 30 years. Uh Ann
25:36Stewart uh from the lower quad whose
25:39influence on Terminal Road and other
25:41issues tonight. Eric Grenenblam, who was
25:44possessed by the rail stop, um I think
25:47will be very pleased that the MBT
25:49acknowledges urban rail potential and a
25:51rail stop and Suas um Kad Kadi um from
25:56ABC who who really pushed housing. Uh
25:59and I want to mention Doug Brown as well
26:01who pushed us on interim activation and
26:04ongoing community involvement. So, I
26:06just I have to say those because I think
26:08those folks have driven an amazing
26:10process and and their good faith is
26:12everything to us. Um, I want to point
26:14out in April, um, Jim and I cautioned
26:18the client that it would be very
26:20difficult to try to get all this
26:22permitting done during the spring and
26:24summer. So, I do have to say thank you
26:26to staff Swathy, particularly you, who
26:28we've driven crazy. Um, Stephanie, Gro,
26:32Brooke, um, Melissa, Dan, Emily, uh,
26:37Carara,
26:39we have been, Jeff, we've been
26:42relentless trying to get this done. And
26:43the reason for that is we want to keep
26:45Health Peak's energy and commitment at
26:47the table and move forward on building a
26:49place. You asked us um to address
26:52building a complete neighborhood. That
26:54will start with housing. It will start
26:56with infrastructure. that's what we can
26:58do in the interim while the commercial
27:00market is is faulty. So, we wanted to
27:03get the entitlements and move forward.
27:04So, I just want to thank staff
27:07completely uh for their attention
27:09especially during the summer. Um I do
27:12want to pay attent uh Jim mentioned the
27:14memos. I do also want to point out um
27:17the various committees that we met with.
27:19We kept moving through the MEPA process
27:21over the summer which involved great
27:24engagement. Um but the the transit
27:27advisory committee, bike and ped
27:29particularly transit advisory for their
27:31support and bike and ped for a number of
27:33of key comments.
27:37Um I also want to just focus on as
27:41Ryland mentioned our speakers David and
27:43John Mitchell have worked tirelessly to
27:45address design concerns um that came up
27:49at the April meeting. Uh Chris Jones
27:52will show you some exciting open space
27:54illustrations that you asked for to
27:57really put color on that. Selma has
27:59enjoyed spending Health Peaks money and
28:02we'll be able to report back, Ashley,
28:04that mitigation is complete and PDTM uh
28:08is also in agreement. Jessica has great
28:10news, I think, for you, Tom, on
28:12sustainability. And Ryland's going to
28:14come back to talk about our commitment
28:16to housing, neighborhood uses, and
28:18activation. This just summarizes the
28:21modifications
28:22um by category. I'm not going to go into
28:24them. Public realm phasing and
28:27coordination, connections and
28:28mitigation, sustainability and
28:30infrastructure, and all the
28:32modifications and responses within those
28:34categories. I think that sort of sums up
28:36the principles um of the special permit
28:39application. Again, the the categories
28:43for tonight, public realm phasing,
28:45connections, mitigation, sustainability,
28:47and infrastructure. And really what
28:49we're trying to deliver is a complete
28:50neighborhood. So the the various experts
28:54uh will be able to go through their
28:55fields and hopefully satisfy you in
28:58those areas. I will turn it over to
29:00someone you know well, David Manf Freddy
29:06>> from Elkus Man Freddy Architects in
29:08Boston, Massachusetts. And um I think we
29:11have a little time left. Joan
29:15um you are looking at Health Peaks
29:17holdings in alew life and what's
29:20absolutely remarkable is not just the
29:22scale um but um the uh amount of of uh
29:27contiguous land holdings here and they
29:30are clearly the key to converting this
29:33from what is uh an area largely light
29:37industrial the beginnings of residential
29:40neighborhood but the real opportunity is
29:43to su successfully implement uh the
29:46envision life plan which so many of you
29:49had so much input into over time. Next
29:52please John. You can see existing
29:54conditions and the existing conditions
29:56are just largely devoid of any sense of
29:59public realm of walkable streets of
30:01walkable sidewalks and of of open space.
30:04next.
30:07And we talked a lot about connections um
30:11over many months with the neighborhood,
30:13the working group, and with all of you.
30:15And the very simple diagram,
30:19there's a lot of great adjacent
30:23open space, publicly beneficial open
30:25space. And [clears throat] what this
30:27site can do is really make the
30:29connections the connections between the
30:32Elwife [clears throat] Brook reservation
30:34uh and Fresh Pond and the L and the
30:36connections east west from all the way
30:38from Blair Pond to Danahe Park. Next,
30:41[snorts]
30:42and I love this diagram because not only
30:46does it show you what the plan is
30:49regarding all of those holdings, but it
30:52color codes the uses. And you can see uh
30:55there is uh a lot of residential, there
30:58is a lot of commercial. U what you
31:00really can't see so well is that all of
31:02the groundf flooror uses that will be
31:04committed to active uses, neighborhood
31:07uses as as defined in all of the the
31:10language that we've all been through.
31:12But you also see the op the amount of
31:14open space that will be created, new
31:17beneficially um uh accessible open
31:20space. uh but also the improvements in
31:23public realm, the connections of
31:25streets, the network that just doesn't
31:28exist today. Next,
31:31there are here I think 18 bubbles. And
31:34the 18 bubbles represent the highest
31:36level of change since we've we've had
31:39this conversation with this group last.
31:43And those changes come out of
31:45conversations again with all of staff um
31:48with urban design staff, the department
31:50of transportation, the transit and
31:52traffic folks um and the neighborhood
31:55and the working group uh and the
31:58comments that we got from planning board
32:00the last time uh we were here. I'm going
32:03to go through these very very quickly
32:04and I'm going to do it by district.
32:06Thanks, John. So, I'll start in the
32:08northwest and you know where I am. Um
32:12I'm I'm up at uh Mooney Street and
32:15probably the one of the biggest moves
32:17that were ma was made here is move
32:19Mooney Street. Move Mooney Street out of
32:21the center of that picture to the top of
32:25that picture alongside the tracks. What
32:28it did was it created that a prominade
32:30from east to west. You can see from R8
32:33all the way over quite almost to the
32:35edge of Blair Pond with programming
32:38community
32:39um that um community programming which
32:44um created places that don't require a
32:47transaction open spaces trellis spaces
32:51um public art u play spaces uh that a
32:56multi-use lawn that Chris will go into
32:58much more detail about a new plot a new
33:01hardscape plaza. You could go on and on
33:04and on about the events uh that these
33:07spaces can accommodate. We moved
33:09building C4, one of the commercial
33:12buildings that has active use on the
33:14ground floor. We moved it to the corner.
33:17We worked specifically with with Eric
33:19Thurkelson about this. And the idea was
33:22move it to the corner and open up the
33:25space in the middle. Not just to
33:27accommodate the space, but to be an
33:29invitation. an invitation to uh the
33:32entire neighborhood and in fact um to
33:34the to the city. We widened Mooney
33:36Street to add grade separated bike bike
33:38lanes. We've created a dedicated service
33:41drive on the north uh to C1 which wasn't
33:45there before uh which terminates in some
33:48parking and a circle that uh will allow
33:51access to to Blair Pond for for the
33:54public. Um and um and we did create a
33:58proposed to create a dedicated pen and
34:00bike path to Blair Pond. We had a lot of
34:03conversation with the city and staff
34:06about a possible future second bridge
34:10and um and we've accommodated the
34:12possibility of that. We haven't
34:14precluded it with any of our building or
34:16any or any of our planning. And very
34:18significantly
34:20uh we've created we've increased the the
34:23uh size of the dedicated land to be
34:26conveyed conveyed to DPW from an acre a
34:29little over an acre um and I circled I
34:31should be circling here to 1.25 acres.
34:35Next I'm going to move to the southwest
34:38quadrant and some very big moves here.
34:41uh again at the urging and and
34:44suggestion of um city staff the purchase
34:48of uh real estate here that allowed the
34:51reconfiguration of the street and the
34:53intersection with conquered A. You can
34:56see uh how that kind of cleans up this
34:59whole intersection creates green space
35:01on either side. um creates the
35:04opportunity for a dedicated turn lane at
35:06Smith uh onto Conquered Revised Adley um
35:11in order to make it a a a connected way
35:15um a four-way intersection. updated
35:18programming uh at at the park, including
35:22play spaces uh and playground spaces and
35:25again the opportunity for for um uh
35:29outdoor public art um but a gathering
35:32space, a green space uh where there has
35:35never been green space. Next,
35:38and so now I'm in the southeast quadrant
35:41and there are a number of updates to
35:43what we are calling Main Street. Uh
35:46we've uh updated the massing. It's C7
35:49and C8. And this is the beginning of the
35:52view to the bridge. And we think of the
35:54the bridge as the nexus. Um it is the
35:57center of all of this u public activity.
36:01And so we've chered these corners. We've
36:03opened up that view. We've widened the
36:06bike lanes throughout. again direct in
36:09in direct response to uh requests and
36:12ideas that um staff brought forward uh
36:15created dedicated turning lanes at at
36:18Molton and and Faucet. Added again art
36:21opportunities in the parks and and
36:23within the neighborhood uses. The red
36:26represents active retail restaurant um
36:32fabrication uses of all kinds that will
36:34engage pedestrians. This is a place
36:37where Health Peak controls both sides of
36:40the street. Uh we can create a really
36:42good positive uh two-sided street that
36:46can be the center of social ability for
36:48the entire neighborhood. Next, uh, and
36:51then in the northeast quadrant, and this
36:53is what I mean by kind of the center of
36:56place, uh, the center of place because
36:58of the green space and the improvements
37:01to the green space, because of some
37:03existing
37:05really important uh, neighbors uh, in
37:09our neighborhood uh, that are treasured
37:11by everybody, including uh, Iggies and
37:14um, the bridge. Obviously the bridge uh
37:18the first probably the first residential
37:20building are two uh with food and
37:23beverage uh with amenity spaces uh and
37:27with inbed kind of solutions to the
37:29resiliency issues. So you'll see you see
37:33there that um the the connection from R1
37:36you don't see it it's slightly off the
37:38drawing but R1 to the Wilson extension u
37:42to be conveyed to the city the Ben Park
37:44we're calling this Ben Park uh with its
37:47programming and design changes
37:50substantial changes to R2 uh we've in
37:53fact moved the building west to increase
37:55this dimension between R2 and the
37:57existing building we've created larger
37:59units to accommodate families amilies.
38:01Um we've stepped the the facade of the
38:05building again to open up a increase the
38:08view corridor um to the bridge. Uh
38:11created this new terrace that will
38:12overlook Bend Park and you begin to see
38:15the development of activity in Bend
38:17Park. Again, places for neighbors uh
38:21where no transaction is required. And
38:24I'm going to go into a little bit of
38:26detail on the bridge updates. You heard
38:28about progress with the MBTA and the
38:29city. Um, and let me go to the next
38:32slide and we'll talk specifically about
38:35u the design improvements. It is fully
38:38accessible um and it has been uh
38:41throughout all of our our um
38:43presentations to you. The path is 14 ft
38:46wide. What is new and again this ca
38:49comes out of um staff urging and
38:52recommendations that we've radiused
38:54these corners uh in in order to make it
38:56more accommodating to bicycles and
38:59pedestrians when both are on the paths.
39:02Um there are stairs on both sides. You
39:05can take the shortcuts so you don't have
39:06to go all the way around. Uh and we've
39:09integrated lighting as you can see in
39:11this section.
39:13It is in fact not the the kit of parts
39:18that you saw at last. It is a custom
39:21design bridge for this location. Um and
39:26in response to all of the the the input
39:29that we received from city staff. Next,
39:34my last my last part of this is phasing.
39:37And I'll I'll take you through phasing.
39:39And you'll see on the right the
39:41[clears throat] this is a cumulative
39:43number. So in phase 1A 1,000 new housing
39:48units and that's all of the housing that
39:50are in the yellow footprints here.
39:5311,500
39:54square feet of neighborhood uses uh
39:56largely in the base of these buildings
39:59but also with some opportunities to do
40:02some more things in existing buildings.
40:04100,000 square feet publicly beneficial
40:06open space improvements at uh Faucet and
40:09Smith uh and the conveyance of the 1.25
40:14acres of DPW land. Next, and you'll see
40:18that these are going to keep adding up.
40:20So, uh, in in phase 1B, uh, the big
40:24numbers are really, uh, addition of
40:26neighborhood uses, addition of open
40:28space because of all that we just talked
40:31about here, uh, in the northwest
40:34quadrant, Mooney Green, New Mooney
40:36Street, and the Bed uh, Ped Bike Bridge
40:39starts construction in phase 1B. Next,
40:44so now housing is up to,80 units.
40:47Neighborhood uses basically have
40:49remained the same because we're in
40:50largely commercial a commercial part of
40:53um the neighborhood. Uh but publicly
40:55beneficial open space has jumped
40:57dramatically because of all of this
41:00space. Smith Park improved uh Smith
41:03Place at at at conquered a uh and the
41:07the bed bike ped bridge uh is now
41:11complete in phase 2A. Next phase 2B
41:15housing now 2300 units, 75,000 total
41:20neighborhood uses, over a half a million
41:23square feet of publicly beneficial open
41:25space. You can see all of what's been
41:28added here at Ben Park. Um the the
41:30Wilson connection, the new main street
41:33in place. Uh all part of accessibility
41:37uh building sociability uh into this new
41:40neighborhood. next.
41:43And and at this point, Chris Jones on
41:47screen. Chris.
41:49>> Uh, thanks, David. Can you all hear me?
41:51Okay. Is that a yes? I hope.
41:53>> Yes.
41:54>> Great. Um, well, thank you. First, I'd
41:57like to apologize that I couldn't be
41:59there in person. I had an unavoidable uh
42:01conflict that has me on the West Coast
42:03for the next four days. Um, but it's a
42:07delight to be here and present this. And
42:09I know we're eating up a lot of time, so
42:11I'm going to move a little quick uh
42:14quickly and not wax poetically on all
42:16these spaces for you. Um, but what
42:19you're seeing here is a really the
42:2130,000 view without [music] architecture
42:24um being uh rendered so that you can
42:26really capture a sense of the uh overall
42:30open space and the connectivity of that
42:32open space. and I will walk you through
42:35much like David did um some of the key
42:37highlights of each of the four areas of
42:40the quadrangle. So moving on to uh the
42:42northwest quadrant. David touched on the
42:45fact that um some buildings shifted C2C3
42:49shifted a little bit south and C4 to the
42:52east. And if you recall, um, this green
42:55space was dominated by a large open
42:59water body in the preliminary
43:01determination and [music]
43:02through the comments of the planning
43:04board and the city staff that we really
43:07should focus on providing active uh, and
43:10passive play space for recreation. Uh we
43:14eliminated that open green uh water um
43:17feature and incorporated it into a um a
43:21storm water management system that is
43:24integrated around that central pavilion
43:27you see highlighted in this pink circle.
43:30Uh we were able to by pulling that out
43:33create some green spaces that can
43:35function as sports play recreation.
43:38um they're not large enough green spaces
43:41to handle full-size soccer courts or
43:43soccer fields, but they can u they're
43:46micro sports courts. So imagine the area
43:48C that large green space could be a
43:51regulation field for9 soccer. uh to give
43:54you a sense of that. Um David mentioned
43:56the creation of a new plaza that sits on
43:59Smith Place with uh opportunities for a
44:02pavilion and public art, food trucks and
44:05the like and sort of the reorganization
44:08of the prime prominade that moves east
44:10west along C1 or C2 and C3. And to the
44:14next slide,
44:17uh you see the continuation of that with
44:20um an additional pedestrian connection.
44:24This connection all the way through
44:25would obviously be wide enough to
44:27accommodate service and emergency
44:29vehicles, but is predominantly for the
44:31pedestrian on a regular use condition.
44:34Um in this area we also enhanced and u
44:37modified slightly the uh where you see
44:40letter uh the letter E uh the
44:41neighborhood park with some uh multi-use
44:44courts, playground, pavilion and where
44:48you see D um defining a uh pedestrian
44:52and bike connection to the Highlands.
44:55Moving to the south southwest,
44:58um David mentioned uh the enhancement of
45:02uh Smith Park. Um again the comments
45:05from the city and and all were about
45:08incorporating active recreation. So we
45:10increase to the extent possible where
45:13you see letter C the green space that
45:15can also function [music] as a U8 soccer
45:18field or other uses as needed and the
45:22incorporation of multi-use courts where
45:24you see letter B and the pavilions that
45:27anchor both ends of that the pavilions
45:29and the um and the sculpture and all of
45:32those components throughout we see as
45:34key elements of wayfinding that would be
45:37uh one level of the hierarchy way
45:39finding that would be incorporated in
45:42addition to signage and other elements
45:44that would be necessary to identify
45:46space and create direction through these
45:48parks. U moving to the uh southeast um
45:52really the only the primary uh updates
45:55here were to ensure where you see letter
45:57B that we were providing a a rich
46:00extension of the main street plaza that
46:02will connect to the existing development
46:04on ultimately onto Wheeler Street. Um
46:06there were uh a number of other subtle
46:09changes that are hard to see in the plan
46:11related to multimmodal transportation
46:14edits of the streets um and new main
46:17street as well. And uh lastly in the
46:20northeast corn uh quadrant David did
46:23touch on this. The big move that was
46:25really helpful was the uh shifting or
46:27the pulling back of the east edge of R2.
46:31Really opened the uh the visual and
46:33physical aperture um from Main Street to
46:36the bridge so that you see that
46:37connection as you're moving along Main
46:39Street or coming from the bridge. We
46:41also modified the multi-use path. Uh a
46:45step down terrace from from R2 that um
46:49aligns with or or meets the multi-use
46:51path and provides a safe connection
46:54across Faucet Street to the bridge and
46:56vice versa. And increased and um
46:59massaged the uh children's play space
47:03that's where you see letter D. um and
47:06really def started defining where the
47:07pavilions of public art could be within
47:09this space to provide that linkage and
47:12and uh connectivity to the bridge from
47:15Main Street. And with that, I think I
47:17can hand it off to Selma.
47:20>> Awesome.
47:21>> Thank you, Chris. Um good evening. I'm
47:23Selma Manzo Prellzig, transportation
47:25engineer with VHB, and I'll take um a
47:28few minutes to walk you through the
47:30transportation plan um and the
47:32mitigation package for the project. So
47:35last time we were here, we heard clearly
47:37that the board wanted to see a stronger
47:39and more focused transportation
47:41response, especially around parking,
47:44PTDM, and mitigation commitments. Uh so
47:46the plan before you tonight responds
47:49directly to that feedback. Um as well as
47:52comments and discussions we've had with
47:54city staff. Uh the plan reflects uh
47:57reduced parking uh then for the
48:00roadways, stronger corridor connectivity
48:02improvements, and an approved PTDM plan
48:06that's designed for the project to
48:08remain accountable over time. Um and I'm
48:11happy to report as as was mentioned
48:13before that the project team is in full
48:15alignment with uh city staff on the
48:18mitigation package and the commitments
48:20that are reflected in the city's
48:22transportation memo that's uh that's
48:24before you. Um and since this project is
48:26also article 19 approval, uh I would
48:29like to mention that a full
48:31transportation impact study or TIS uh
48:34was completed and certified by the city
48:37uh in January of this year. Uh the study
48:40covered the full review of the planning
48:42board impact criteria. Next slide.
48:48uh parking uh was clearly number one
48:51transportation concern I think from from
48:54Ashley and from a few others that raised
48:56it. Uh so I wanted to start here um and
48:59and to help frame the discussion uh to
49:02show the incremental reductions that
49:04have been made. So starting with zoning
49:07and then into the future with potential
49:09reductions. So reading the chart from
49:11from left to right u the zoning maximum
49:14is around 4,900 spaces. Uh the last time
49:18you saw us, we were at around 4600
49:21spaces. It's the light blue um column.
49:24Um and the current maximum plan is
49:2644.82.
49:28Uh the column in in orange, which uh as
49:31you can see, it's um it's it's already
49:33below zoning and it's also below uh the
49:36prior plan. Um and then the project has
49:39a commitment to further reduce parking.
49:42As existing leases turn over, there's an
49:44opportunity to drop parking to 3,900
49:47spaces, the darker green column, and a
49:51future potential of 3648 spaces with
49:54monitoring of actual parking usage
49:57through vacancy studies. Um, and the
50:00details around this commitment are
50:02captured in the in the city's
50:03transportation memo.
50:06Uh so this means that the project is not
50:08seeking to build out the full zoning
50:10based supply. Instead uh we start below
50:13zoning and include a pathway to reduce
50:17parking further over time. At the lowest
50:20future scenario that would be reduction
50:22of 1250 spaces from zoning which is more
50:26than 25%.
50:28Um shared parking is a big part of how
50:31this would actually work. Uh different
50:34users need parking at different times of
50:36day. Office employees, residents, retail
50:39customers, visitors. Um they use parking
50:43at different times of say. So so the
50:45same supply can serve multiple users
50:48more efficiently and that allows the
50:51project to avoid overbuilding parking
50:53and instead it can balance its supply uh
50:56with real world demand.
50:58Next slide.
51:02The other major part of the
51:04transportation plan um are the roadways
51:06and how this project will change the
51:09street grid. Uh the work reflects
51:11comments we heard from the city staff
51:14about the need uh for more complete
51:17approach and closing the current gaps
51:19that exist within the pedestrian and
51:21bike uh connections. Um and and the as
51:25was mentioned the bike pad and transit
51:27advisory committee were also uh great
51:29about sharing their their thoughts. Uh
51:31we are using this slide as a visual to
51:34show how the roadways will transform
51:37from uh an an autodominated condition as
51:40you can see no bike lanes, no trees,
51:43very narrow sidewalks into a safer
51:47multimodal or a complete street uh with
51:51the goal of improving how all people
51:54move through the area by walking as a
51:57cyclist on a shuttle bus and in a
51:59vehicle. So the proposed plan on on the
52:03right side uh as you can see includes
52:05cycle tracks, wide sidewalks, landscape
52:09buffers, street trees uh and safe
52:13crossings for an overall improved safety
52:16um and and accessibility.
52:22So related to that street transformation
52:25um is is the larger connectivity fe uh
52:28piece and I'll quickly flip through
52:30there's there's three of these versions
52:32um of of maps. Uh first map is uh where
52:37the segments in pink indicate existing
52:40roadways uh that will be reconstructed
52:43to that full complete street. You can
52:45see Faucet, Molton, Smith, uh, Conquer A
52:49highlighted. If we flip to the next
52:52slide,
52:54uh, segments in yellow show brand new
52:57streets and bike ped connections that
53:00currently do not exist. Uh, Mooney area
53:03in the northwest, brand new roadways, as
53:06well as bike ped only link to um to
53:09Lumis. Um then in the northeast the the
53:12bridge of course with the uh diagonal
53:16connection that's starting to Smith uh
53:18and then the southeast with New Main
53:21Street Wilson extension and the east
53:23west links. And if we flip one more,
53:28um, and then the blue segments are those
53:31strategic partial connections or stub
53:33roads, uh, that serve as a setup for,
53:37uh, future streets to continue on areas
53:40that this project doesn't have direct
53:42control over. It means that the project
53:44is designed uh not only to function in
53:48its initial phase but also to support
53:50the broader street network goals
53:52identified through the city's planning
53:54um and the envision plan. Um and that
53:57includes the the future multi-use path
54:00uh along the rail uh both the segment to
54:04uh back to Blanchard and then the
54:05segment um um with 24 and 25. Um then uh
54:12that connection between Smith Park and
54:15Bend Park uh and then Spinelli and Adley
54:19extensions indicated was 27 and and 28
54:22as well as Terminal Road link to Wheeler
54:24Street segment 29 and and specifically
54:27on Terminal Road, U Health Peak has
54:30committed to fund an origin destination
54:33study um and to contribute uh to
54:38advancing the construction of that link.
54:40as well. So, so the key point here is
54:43that the plan improves local circulation
54:46now uh while also preserving future
54:49options for a more connected network
54:52over time.
55:00A major part of the mitigation package
55:03uh extends beyond the project boundaries
55:05and focuses on conquered a from
55:08Blanchard to Fresh Pond Rotary. Uh we we
55:11do recognize that this is a challenging
55:13corridor and through coordination with
55:15city staff. The project now includes
55:18major commitments to a long-term to
55:20long-term improvements uh that will
55:22support walking, biking, transit safety
55:25and accessibility overall. The slide
55:28summarizes the package as a 20 plus
55:31million dollar investment uh which is
55:33very significant uh corridor scale
55:36investment. The the underlining work
55:38would include studies, alternatives,
55:41development, public engagement, design
55:44and construction funds. Uh improvements
55:47could include upgraded signals,
55:49crossings, uh bicycle facilities, wider
55:53sidewalks, accessible bus stops, bus
55:55priority elements, and other changes to
55:58improve safety and person throughput
56:00along the corridor. Uh so important
56:02takeaway here is that the concrete plan
56:04is uh very significant and will be
56:07closely coordinated with the city and
56:10community. Next slide.
56:13Um also important to note that the
56:16project will not only rely on that
56:19long-term corridor improvement. While
56:21the broader concord work advances, the
56:24plan also includes some near-term and
56:26midterm improvements at key locations.
56:29Uh and those include some targeted
56:31signal equipment upgrades, uh pedestrian
56:34and accessibility improvements with new
56:37ramps and crosswalks and bus stop
56:39enhancement with benches, shelters and
56:43lighting. Uh and this is for the
56:45intersections of Spanelli, Smith,
56:48Molton, and Faucet. Uh this also would
56:51include a full signalization of the
56:53intersection of Smith uh Smith at
56:56conquered. Um and and these upgrades are
56:59an important part of the mitigation
57:00package. It means that the improvement
57:02that the important safety and access
57:04improvements happen in the near
57:07near-term and midterm while that larger
57:11corridor study continues to move forward
57:13for for a longer term solution in
57:15coordination as mentioned with the city
57:17and with community.
57:22Um and beyond the physical improvements,
57:25the project includes a broad
57:28transportation demand management or TDM
57:31program uh which is also that
57:33accountability piece. As mentioned, the
57:36PTDM plan uh is approved with the city
57:39and the commitments in that plan are
57:41funded, measurable and enforcable over
57:44time. And I just wanted to highlight a
57:46few commitments that are especially
57:48important. Uh first is the shuttle and
57:52the TMA support and the significance of
57:54that. Uh health peak will participate in
57:56the awife TMA. They will fund shuttle
57:59operation studies at each development
58:02phase and also provide funding for
58:04additional buses uh for that for the
58:07alewife loop. Uh those commitments are
58:10intended to support a roughly 8 minute
58:13peak hour shuttle service between the
58:15quad and aw station. The funding would
58:18also serve for brand new off- peak and
58:21weekend service that would run every 15
58:24to 20 minutes uh which is especially
58:27important uh before the bridge is
58:29constructed. And then the second to
58:31highlight are the the bike and blue
58:33bikes commitments. The project includes
58:35more than 3500
58:37bicycle parking spaces covering secure
58:40long-term indoor parking, repair
58:43support, visitor bike parking. It also
58:46funds and provides space for six new um
58:50large blue bike stations which would be
58:52adding about 150 blue bikes and docks to
58:56the quad. And then more broadly the the
58:59PTDM framework includes parking
59:02management, transit subsidies,
59:04monitoring surveys, parking counts, and
59:08ongoing reporting. Um so the the the key
59:11point on this final slide is that this
59:14is an ongoing accountability and
59:16management program uh with service
59:19commitments, monitoring and real
59:21alternatives to driving. So overall, we
59:24we think that this is a strong plan with
59:27thoughtful long-term strategies uh that
59:31invest in alternative transportation
59:33that will make the area more walkable
59:35and bikable uh with improved access to
59:38transit and and a strongly managed uh
59:41parking supply. So as a whole, these
59:44improvements will um make a significant
59:47difference in the quad. Thank you. I'll
59:49turn it over to Jess.
59:51>> Great. Thanks.
59:52>> Okay. My name is Jess. I'm the director
59:54with sustainability.
59:57>> Hey, excuse me. I think Can you check to
59:58see if your microphone's on so the
1:00:00transcript picks you up? Thanks.
1:00:01>> Sorry. Thank you. [laughter] Uh, thank
1:00:03you, Thelma. Um, my name is Jessica
1:00:05Zofchek. I'm a director with Ailier 10
1:00:07focusing on sustainability for tonight.
1:00:10My goal is to provide a sustainability
1:00:12progress update in response to the
1:00:14comments that we heard from you all in
1:00:15the last meeting. The master plan's
1:00:17green building requirements under
1:00:18article 22 have been completed including
1:00:21certifications of the green building
1:00:23report, the green factor standard and
1:00:25the flood resilience standard.
1:00:27Commercial buildings will be lead gold
1:00:30certifiable while residential buildings
1:00:32will either pursue lead gold or passive
1:00:34house certifications.
1:00:36And as each of these buildings move
1:00:38forward, each one will be required to
1:00:40provide additional documentation at the
1:00:43design review stage where we'll be
1:00:45providing further details and specifics,
1:00:47you know, when those are available. Um,
1:00:49next slide. Um, extensive analysis was
1:00:52completed early on in the master
1:00:54planning process to identify any
1:00:57opportunities and or challenges for
1:00:59various subdists of the site for either
1:01:02shared water or energy systems. As Mary
1:01:06asked at the last presentation for more
1:01:08clarity around the storm water approach,
1:01:10I am happy to emphasize that the Mooney
1:01:13Quad and the new main street areas will
1:01:16have that district that shared approach
1:01:18to storm water collection, treatment and
1:01:20infiltration. And all of this capacity
1:01:23is going to be installed day one before
1:01:26parking garages and remaining buildings
1:01:28are completed to connect to those shared
1:01:30systems. Um for shared energy, the team
1:01:33completed a series of studies based on
1:01:35that projected master plan program
1:01:38distribution
1:01:39and published those findings, including
1:01:41the challenges we found in the green
1:01:43building report. Given the city's
1:01:45interest in exploring the quadrangle as
1:01:47a neighborhood scale thermal energy
1:01:49network, Health Peak has been actively
1:01:51coordinating with the city and
1:01:52Eversource as the opportunity is
1:01:54evaluated and looks forward to the
1:01:56outcomes of the city's own study with
1:01:58their outside consultant in coordination
1:01:59with Eversource to determine if this
1:02:02area of Cambridge would benefit from
1:02:03such a system and if so, how the
1:02:05development could actively connect to
1:02:08and support that system.
1:02:11Next slide. Um, we know electric vehicle
1:02:13infrastructure is a major focus as we
1:02:16continue to push for a fossil fuel-free
1:02:18future in Cambridge. We're excited to
1:02:20share the ways we're exceeding those
1:02:22requirements. Rather than just
1:02:24configuring EV ready spaces, we're
1:02:26installing significant EV charging
1:02:28capacity for both the residential and
1:02:30commercial programs with 10% and EV 10%
1:02:33and 25% sorry EV installed spaces um
1:02:37respectively um through through those
1:02:39programs. In addition, um, within the
1:02:42parking structures, Health Peak is
1:02:44providing EV capable spaces for the
1:02:46remaining spaces, which include the
1:02:48conduit needed to support future
1:02:49charging as demand increases. And you'll
1:02:51also note that we have an additional 10%
1:02:53EV ready spaces qualified for the
1:02:56residential buildings.
1:02:58Um, finally, next slide. In response to
1:03:00the DO's request to combine public EV
1:03:03vehicle charging with ebike and other
1:03:05device charging, we're also going to be
1:03:08creating these EV clusters distributed
1:03:10across the site to provide a total of
1:03:1215% of on street spaces with EV
1:03:15charging. These EV clusters will
1:03:17integrate charging not only for vehicles
1:03:20but for ebikes, scooters, and other
1:03:22micromobility devices. So, this will
1:03:24support the city's push for enhanced
1:03:26electrified mobility. And with that, we
1:03:29look forward to continuing to develop
1:03:30the proposed sustainability strategies
1:03:32with each phase of design with Health
1:03:34Peak's focus on environmental
1:03:36performance and stewardship. Thank you.
1:03:39And I'll pass this back to Ryland.
1:03:41>> Awesome. Thank you, Jess. Um, at our
1:03:43last meeting, the planning board
1:03:45expressed an interest in building a
1:03:47sense of place and continuing our
1:03:48investment in neighborhood uses in the
1:03:51form of arts and also early activation.
1:03:53Um, real quick I just want to point out
1:03:55the neighborhood use term is a new term
1:03:57created through the ale wife um, working
1:04:00group process that identified typical
1:04:02retail uses but also a variety of uses
1:04:05that the residents and community members
1:04:07that live in this area have identified
1:04:09as needs and uses that they would need
1:04:11on a daily basis. Um, with the help of
1:04:13our placemaking and retail consultant of
1:04:16place, we identified a v a wide variety
1:04:18of neighborhood uses and art
1:04:20installations throughout the quad. As
1:04:23David mentioned, we are planning to
1:04:24include 7,000 square feet of
1:04:26neighborhood uses in the first
1:04:27residential building and it will include
1:04:29opportunities for additional art
1:04:31installations. We believe that this is
1:04:33going to be the epicenter of the quad
1:04:36and the beginning of early activation as
1:04:38we have over a thousand units of
1:04:40existing housing. We have Iggies. It is
1:04:43shattered shadow anchored by Trader
1:04:45Joe's and also Whole Foods and is also
1:04:47the future location of the um pedestrian
1:04:50bridge. Um, for all those reasons, we're
1:04:53investing heavily in early activation.
1:04:55So far, we've also engaged local um,
1:04:58artists and the Cambridge Community Arts
1:05:01to build mur murals on 110 faucet and
1:05:04125 faucet. Additionally, we've hosted
1:05:06two u block parties right at the bend to
1:05:09faucet next to Iggies, which were a
1:05:11fantastic success and a great time. Um,
1:05:14we look forward to more opportunities
1:05:16for early activation and working with
1:05:18the community. So, we're excited to
1:05:20begin working with the neighborhood use
1:05:22advisory committee that Jim mentioned
1:05:24earlier, and we are looking to expand
1:05:27that obligation to include more
1:05:29residents from the community and more
1:05:31community members um as per guided by
1:05:34Doug Brown. Now, seeing is believing.
1:05:37So, I'm going to pass it over to uh
1:05:39David who's going to go through an
1:05:41animation of R2, the first residential
1:05:43building, and show the potential
1:05:45neighborhood uses.
1:05:46>> I promise you it's less than two
1:05:48minutes. Uh but it was really produced
1:05:50be because we are in a hybrid situation
1:05:52tonight and for the benefit of folks who
1:05:54can't have immediate access to a model.
1:06:05There's always that moment when you
1:06:07wonder if it's actually going to come on
1:06:08or not.
1:06:10So let me tell you where you are. Um
1:06:13you've just exited the north end of of
1:06:17Main Street. Um you are headed towards
1:06:20what we're calling the nexus. Uh you are
1:06:23in Ben Park walking north. R2 the first
1:06:27of the residential buildings is on your
1:06:29left. You can see the that kind of front
1:06:32porch on the east side of the building.
1:06:34Um hopefully with restaurant alongside
1:06:36of it, play spaces, seating spaces,
1:06:40shade, comfort. Uh again in an area
1:06:42where there's no transaction. Uh this is
1:06:45publicly accessible for all. You're
1:06:48looking beyond to the bridge. You're
1:06:50looking across obviously faucet. Uh and
1:06:53looking beyond to the bridge. Uh that's
1:06:55what that view looks like today. And
1:06:58that [clears throat] is what that view
1:06:59will look like in the future.
1:07:03We'll take a quick left down the street
1:07:06down Faucet Street at the bend of Faucet
1:07:08Street. You can see the folks on the
1:07:10bridge uh biking and walking. Uh and
1:07:14we'll turn left. And this is one place
1:07:19where you'll see
1:07:21where we are dealing very proactively
1:07:23with resiliency issues. We have bike
1:07:26lanes. We have a landscape zone. Uh we
1:07:29have a sidewalk. This is complete
1:07:32streets. We also have a kind of front
1:07:35porch um that raises the finished floors
1:07:38of the buildings. That will all be
1:07:40active uses on the grade ground floor.
1:07:42some of it commercial, some of it uh
1:07:45amenity space for the residences above.
1:07:48Uh and with that, we give you a very
1:07:52quick snapshot of the public realm. Uh a
1:07:55key part of the public realm
1:08:01and
1:08:03>> we have the model.
1:08:04>> We have the model. Uh I saw a lot of
1:08:06people here uh looking at the model uh
1:08:09before we before we all sat down. But I
1:08:12think what's what's most important that
1:08:20>> How's that? That's perfect. Um I think
1:08:23what again what you can see is the
1:08:27amount of green space, the amount of
1:08:28open space, the connectivity that was a
1:08:31key component maybe the key component of
1:08:35uh envision life. uh the opportunity
1:08:38because of the amount of holdings,
1:08:40because of the continuity of the
1:08:41holdings, we can make those connections
1:08:44and turn this from a kind of abstract
1:08:47light industrial neighborhood largely uh
1:08:51into a real neighborhood uh in
1:08:53Cambridge. And you can see the the the
1:08:56kinds of streets, the kinds of public
1:08:58open space, the connectivity from north
1:09:00to south, uh the kind of connectivity uh
1:09:04east to west and Um the planning logic
1:09:08that has been a part of this with all of
1:09:10the benefit of input from a lot of
1:09:13people sitting on that side of the room.
1:09:24>> Great. Thank you very much. Uh there's a
1:09:27lot to absorb here so understand uh uh
1:09:30the length of the presentation. Um so at
1:09:33this point uh it's a public hearing
1:09:35obviously we will take u public comment
1:09:39um it'll be a little unusual tonight
1:09:41because we have we're hybrid so there's
1:09:43some people potentially here in the room
1:09:46be behind me I can't see um but also
1:09:49online uh and uh also for planning board
1:09:53members you should know um before we
1:09:56deliberate we will also hear from city
1:09:59staff there's been some representations
1:10:01about all the work they have done. We're
1:10:03going to hear from them directly uh
1:10:06about their particular input and their
1:10:08their view of what's before us tonight.
1:10:11So uh we'll have that advantage as well.
1:10:13So with that uh I'll turn it over uh to
1:10:17um to Jeff. Uh so um any members of the
1:10:21public who wish to speak uh should now
1:10:24click the button that says raise hand.
1:10:25If you're calling in by phone, you can
1:10:28raise your hand by pressing star 9. As
1:10:31of 5:00 p.m. yesterday, the board had
1:10:32received written comments on this case
1:10:34from Matthew Dor, from Audrey Anne Kard,
1:10:38PJ Summers, Ian Noland, and Michael
1:10:43Rogrove. Written communications received
1:10:46after 5:00 PM yesterday will be entered
1:10:48into the record. So, I'll now ask staff
1:10:51to uh organize the public comment.
1:10:55>> Thank you, Tom. This is uh Jeff Roberts
1:10:58again. So, I'll um I'll note so we we
1:11:00didn't have any signins uh in the room.
1:11:03So, I'll just we're going to go to the
1:11:05Zoom first and we'll go through the
1:11:07hands and if you'd like to speak, you
1:11:08you can still sign up or or we'll just
1:11:10make sure we get everyone before before
1:11:12we close off. But there's a sign-in
1:11:14sheet. It's near the door uh on the
1:11:16inside. Um so I'll go to the zoom first
1:11:19and I'll start with Danish Mahmud who is
1:11:22followed by John Chun. Um when you speak
1:11:25I'll allow you to speak. You can begin
1:11:27by unmuting yourself and saying your
1:11:28name and address
1:11:35street. And I like to raise a few points
1:11:40and request regarding this development
1:11:43plan. First is regarding building
1:11:45heights.
1:11:46This plan would significantly block the
1:11:49sun to our home of Lum Street.
1:11:55This is an area which tends to be
1:11:57overlooked and is also enveloped by this
1:11:59development directly adjacent to three
1:12:01sides towards the north, south and east.
1:12:04So therefore, we would appreciate if the
1:12:06planning board and healthy can review
1:12:09and revise the building height for those
1:12:11buildings nearby our home
1:12:14would be building C5 [music] and C6 as
1:12:17specified on the presentation and plan
1:12:19documents.
1:12:21In particular, we request that buildings
1:12:23C5 [music] and C6 have a building height
1:12:25that's limited to around 3 ft, which
1:12:28would be similar to other surrounding
1:12:30buildings and would prevent casting a
1:12:32shadow over our neighborhoods.
1:12:34Another point I want to convey is our
1:12:36interest in more clarity on the city's
1:12:38plan for the DPW site that is bordering
1:12:41the west side of this project also near
1:12:43Lumis Street and Plazet Street and would
1:12:46like to request for more development
1:12:48planned for noise mitigation in theory.
1:12:51With regards to noise concerns in
1:12:53general, we ask that construction be
1:12:56conducted during the daytime and not at
1:12:58night so as to not disturb residents.
1:13:01You're already exposed to significant
1:13:02noise during the nighttime from
1:13:04construction ongoing at the 50 [music]
1:13:06Mooney Street lot and would appreciate
1:13:08if construction can be limited to office
1:13:10hours only.
1:13:12Lastly, regarding the construction of
1:13:14the bridge, like other residents, we
1:13:17would like to see this bridge be
1:13:18delivered sooner rather than later and
1:13:21have a clear timeline specified by HUD
1:13:23regardless of progress so far in BPA.
1:13:28As you all know, this is a point that
1:13:30virtually the entire community stands
1:13:32firmly behind and we would like to
1:13:34request for completion of the [music]
1:13:35bridge ideally within phase one of the
1:13:37project.
1:13:39To summarize, I'm requesting lower
1:13:42building heights, ordering the existing
1:13:45residential space at Lumis Street, and
1:13:47specifically limiting building C5 and C6
1:13:50to around 30 to 40 height, and
1:13:54requesting some clarity on plan for the
1:13:56DPW site, near 67 Smith Place, and
1:13:59requesting for a faster timeline for
1:14:01building the bridge and having clear
1:14:02[music] milestones, ensuring the bridge
1:14:04is prioritized over the
1:14:09I hope that this can be cleanly
1:14:11implemented as part of the plan for the
1:14:13betterment of the neighborhood and I
1:14:15have had some productive discussions
1:14:17with Ryland as well and I appreciate the
1:14:20work that was put into this. Thank you.
1:14:24>> Thank you.
1:14:26>> The next speaker is John Chun who's
1:14:29followed by Eric Grunal.
1:14:41And you can begin with your name and
1:14:42address. If if you're speaking, we can't
1:14:44hear you currently.
1:14:56Um, John, China, I'll just give you a
1:14:58second if you want to check to make sure
1:15:00your microphone is on or if you're
1:15:03there's nothing covering it or it's
1:15:05turned on on your computer.
1:15:12Hello. Can you hear me now?
1:15:14>> Yes.
1:15:15>> Oh, can you Sorry about that. Yeah, my
1:15:17microphone was set to some different
1:15:18device here. Yes. My name is John Chan.
1:15:21I'm uh from 48 Luma Street. I'm a direct
1:15:24to the proposed DPW lot at the end of
1:15:27Smith Place. And uh I have already
1:15:30submitted my uh letter by email, so I'm
1:15:33going to make my comment short. I
1:15:35appreciate the uh the slides that the uh
1:15:37health pic um had provided previously. I
1:15:40enjoyed flipping through and looking at
1:15:42the design and the plan and I really um
1:15:45um appreciated the lots of green space
1:15:48and also many efforts that the healthpic
1:15:51has put into place um to make this
1:15:53community better. I have seen various
1:15:56different renderings of the plant over
1:15:57the years, but I mean so far this one
1:16:00really stands out as uh one that I like
1:16:02the most. Um especially the bridge
1:16:04design. If I may have one wish, maybe
1:16:07the the the drawings were fantastic, but
1:16:10the animation that you just showed was
1:16:12even better. Um maybe if you can also
1:16:14have an animation of a bridge crossing
1:16:16next time, I think that might be also
1:16:18exciting as well, just to get some a
1:16:20feel for how that's going to be like. Um
1:16:23and um I also appreciate the um the
1:16:26trust that Healthp has built over the
1:16:28years with um the neighborhoods here,
1:16:31especially through Anthony and Jim. And
1:16:34then we look forward to really seeing
1:16:36this development coming into fruition
1:16:38and then enjoying the all the benefits,
1:16:41the promise, the benefits of um of um
1:16:44how the development is going to evolve
1:16:46into. Um so again I want to send my
1:16:48appreciation for the engagement and the
1:16:51outreach that Health Peak has provided
1:16:53over the years um and the trust
1:16:55building. Thank you so much.
1:16:58>> Thank you John.
1:17:00>> The next speaker is Eric Grunabalam
1:17:02who's followed by Simon Gerellov.
1:17:15>> Hi. Good evening planning board and
1:17:17staff and hello health peak team. I am
1:17:19Eric Rudbalam of 98 Montgomery Street in
1:17:21North Cambridge. Um and for a quick
1:17:23background, I served on the wife zoning
1:17:25working group that reszoneed the land. I
1:17:27was also on the envisioned alewife
1:17:28working group which was formed to deal
1:17:30with kind of an unstructured development
1:17:32boom in the area. [snorts] I also met
1:17:34weekly with IQHQ throughout their
1:17:36permitting process. So I'm very familiar
1:17:38with development here and have lived in
1:17:40North Cambridge for 28 years and in
1:17:42Cambridge my whole life. Um well Anthony
1:17:44is rarely wrong. So, yes, I am
1:17:46possessed. Uh, and tonight I'd like to
1:17:48talk about the new stop uh at the
1:17:50Cambridge quadrangle, which is what I'm
1:17:51calling it. Uh, particularly in light of
1:17:54the reductions in parking that have been
1:17:56mentioned. So, essentially, a new city
1:17:58is being built. Uh, and adding a rail
1:18:00stop here will add substantially to the
1:18:02development's value. Uh, planning board
1:18:04members, please Google this when you get
1:18:06a chance. How much does a rail stop add
1:18:09to the value of real estate? The answer,
1:18:11I'll give it to you, give it away, is a
1:18:13rail stop adds about 4 to 24% to the
1:18:16value of homes and about 42% or up to
1:18:1942% for commercial properties. And I put
1:18:22the link in my letter which I sent uh
1:18:24this evening. Uh conservatively, let's
1:18:26say it's 5% value ad. That's about $200
1:18:29million on a $4 billion de development.
1:18:32Uh that's a lot of money. Uh and uh uh
1:18:36that's, you know, enough to to fund a
1:18:38rail stop. uh adding a rail stop to
1:18:40pedestrian bike bridge several times
1:18:42over. And I I shared this with uh with
1:18:45Health Peak at two meetings, the Meepo
1:18:46meeting and the Awife zoning working
1:18:48group meeting, which I appreciate their
1:18:50hosting. Uh and their CFO responded with
1:18:52three words. You're not wrong. U it's
1:18:56clearly a financial benefit to Health
1:18:58Peak and would not qualify as community
1:19:00benefit in the normal sense. Of course,
1:19:02it's good for the community, too. Um and
1:19:04I really appreciate Health Peak's work
1:19:06on this. Uh and uh the real question is
1:19:10uh is it needed? Um and I think the
1:19:13short answer is yes. Uh the stretch of
1:19:15roadway here uh has two of the worst uh
1:19:18traffic incidences of the top five in
1:19:20the state per mass DOT. And I shared the
1:19:23link to that in my letter tonight. And
1:19:26also an HDR study for Cambridge said
1:19:28that a rail stop was justified in the
1:19:29quadrangle in 2015. And I shared that
1:19:32study in my letter. And per historical
1:19:34research, there were once five stops
1:19:36between Belmas and Porter. Um, and
1:19:38that's no longer the case, but it's time
1:19:40to put them back. Um, a big question
1:19:43that always comes up is, will MBTA allow
1:19:45new rail stops? And the evidence is yes.
1:19:48The Worcester line has two new stops at
1:19:50Boston Landing and Fenway and a third
1:19:52slated for West Station. The two new
1:19:54stops were privately funded by
1:19:56developers. And so I urge the planning
1:19:58board uh in Cambridge to focus on a rail
1:20:00stop which impacts both housing and
1:20:02commercial development.
1:20:04Build the rail stop so commuting
1:20:06patterns grow around it. Get people out
1:20:08of cars to fix the traffic that plagues
1:20:10the area and provide better access to
1:20:12housing beyond Cambridge. Pedestrian
1:20:14bike bridge is half of a rail stop. I
1:20:17support this project and hope Cambridge
1:20:19will nudge the rail stop into existence
1:20:20with Health Peak's financial support
1:20:22which is very much in their interests.
1:20:24Thanks for your consideration.
1:20:27Thank you very much.
1:20:30>> Uh the next speaker is Simon Gerelikov
1:20:33and then I'll go to uh Matthew Dufour
1:20:35who's who's here in the room.
1:20:40>> Thank you very much. Um
1:20:43members of the committee uh healthp team
1:20:47and uh members of the public who are so
1:20:49actively engaged in this process.
1:20:52Um my name is Simon Gerelikov. I'm a
1:20:56resident atif at 51 Lumis Street. Um
1:21:01Denish and myself are the neighbors and
1:21:04part of the residences at Lumis Street
1:21:08uh condominos um which is like Denish
1:21:11said is basically surrounded by the new
1:21:13development. So, I do want to,
1:21:18you know, second Denisha's concerns
1:21:21about the height of the newly proposed
1:21:24uh properties C5 and C6 and also um we'd
1:21:29like to have more clarity on the
1:21:32proposed DPW site as far as the height,
1:21:35the um extent of the operations uh as if
1:21:39what what's going to basically happen
1:21:41there, you know, will it house heavy
1:21:43machinery similar to the Mooney Street
1:21:45site. You know, will it be 247
1:21:48operations uh considering the proximity
1:21:50to our uh properties and uh the
1:21:54potential for noise exposure um that
1:21:57we're facing
1:21:59and my other concern has to do with the
1:22:03proposed Lumis street connection. Um I
1:22:07100% agree that this is absolutely
1:22:10necessary and uh exciting um to have a
1:22:14connection to the larger development uh
1:22:17to be able to access all the open spaces
1:22:20and the retail space proposed. Uh my
1:22:23concern is uh the state of the road that
1:22:26um the stretch of the Lumi street uh in
1:22:30front of our condominiums is currently
1:22:32in and what will happen to the uh
1:22:36pedestrians and the bikers who will be
1:22:38using that connection to u move from the
1:22:42new development to west to towards
1:22:45Belmont you know um because at times
1:22:48after the rain um it's virtually
1:22:51impossible in the winter when it snows
1:22:55and it freezes over. Um it becomes a
1:22:58sheet of ice. Uh it's it's absolutely
1:23:01impossible to walk on it at times and
1:23:04we've haven't had much success with the
1:23:06city um about the maintenance of this
1:23:10stretch of road. Um this being obviously
1:23:13private property. However, if there is,
1:23:17you know, a proposed connection and the
1:23:20public will be using this road um for
1:23:24connection, we have to understand and
1:23:28have a plan on how the street will be
1:23:30maintained, repaired, and managed and so
1:23:32forth. Um, thank you for your time.
1:23:36>> Thank you.
1:23:38>> And and next is Matthew Duour. You
1:23:40you're at the right spot. You can just
1:23:41push the button to make sure the green
1:23:42light is on when you speak.
1:23:44Hello. All right.
1:23:48Good evening. Uh, I'm Matthew D4. My
1:23:51wife Audrey and I live at 31 Willy
1:23:54Street, unit 302. Uh, it's the fourstory
1:23:57building. It's the fourth story condo
1:23:59building directly east of the proposed
1:24:01P3 parking garage. Uh, I've already
1:24:04submitted my comments via email, so I'll
1:24:06keep it brief. Our our unit is on the
1:24:10northwest corner of our building today.
1:24:12Our view to the west is mostly open sky
1:24:15with just one just a one-story building
1:24:18and a one-story parking garage below.
1:24:21On in the afternoon and evening, our
1:24:24direct sunlight comes through our west
1:24:25facing windows. The planned P3 parking
1:24:28garage would be directly west of us,
1:24:30only 34 feet from our windows.
1:24:34All of its parking levels uh would be
1:24:37above ground and it would be nearly
1:24:39twice the height of our building.
1:24:42We expect that a building that tall
1:24:44directly west of us would block most of
1:24:47our sunlight.
1:24:49The applicants own shadow maps support
1:24:51that concern. Um, in their maps at 3
1:24:54p.m. under existing conditions, our
1:24:56building is is shown without shadow, but
1:24:59under the proposed plan, it's in P3's
1:25:02shadow.
1:25:04and the study stops at 3 pm. So, we're
1:25:07asking the board to require as part of
1:25:09design review a shadow study of P3's
1:25:11impact of the on the homes at 31 Wheeler
1:25:14Street from mid-afternoon through
1:25:16sunset.
1:25:19If the impact is significant, we'd ask
1:25:21the board to consider fewer above ground
1:25:23parking levels or putting some of the
1:25:25parking underground. nearby development
1:25:28developments like ours, the Laurent, the
1:25:31Atmark, they already use below below
1:25:33grade parking.
1:25:36That that is all for me. I appreciate
1:25:37your investment in the neighborhood.
1:25:39Thank you.
1:25:41>> Thank you, Mr. Jour.
1:25:44>> So, uh I will go back to the I'll just
1:25:47note that that's the end of the speakers
1:25:48who have raised their hands and who have
1:25:50signed up on the list. So, I'll just
1:25:52take a second in case there's anybody
1:25:54who's still looking for the raise hand
1:25:56button on Zoom or anybody in the room
1:25:58that that wants to speak and wants to
1:26:00raise your hand. I'll just allow a few
1:26:02seconds.
1:26:11Okay, I'm not seeing any hands go up
1:26:13either here or there, so I'll turn it
1:26:16back over to the chair.
1:26:18>> Thank you, Jeff. Um, as I mentioned
1:26:20before, um, we'll move at this point,
1:26:24uh, to, uh, ask that CDD staff, uh,
1:26:27provide some comment on the final
1:26:29development plan,
1:26:31um,
1:26:32and, uh, responses to some of the issues
1:26:35raised, uh, prior to the prior to the
1:26:37hearing. So, um, hope they're prepared
1:26:40to do that.
1:26:44>> Great. Thank you, chair. Um Melissa
1:26:46Peters, assistant city manager for
1:26:48community development. Uh really excited
1:26:50to be at this moment tonight. This is a
1:26:52a major milestone. Um I will pass it off
1:26:56to staff to speak to uh specific
1:26:58comments that we heard from the planning
1:27:00board and how staff have worked with
1:27:02Health Peak to address those comments.
1:27:04Uh but wanted to kind of provide broader
1:27:06comments just about um kind of where we
1:27:08are in the process um in terms of
1:27:11planning for this really significant
1:27:13area of the city. And so as many of you
1:27:16know ale wife um is is the most
1:27:19significant area of the city for
1:27:20redevelopment.
1:27:22um when I it's kind of on a personally
1:27:26meaningful to me because my first
1:27:27project was working on Envision
1:27:29Cambridge and the Aeife district plan in
1:27:312015 um and talking with the community
1:27:34about what our shared vision is for the
1:27:36future um and really excited to see um
1:27:40those principles and development out
1:27:42outcomes represented in this proposal
1:27:45today. So, how do we transform this area
1:27:48um as a mixeduse transitorian
1:27:50development that balances economic
1:27:53growth which much needed residential
1:27:56development to help address our housing
1:27:58crisis. Um, and not only does it do
1:28:00that, it creates a network of uh
1:28:03connected open space, provides new uh
1:28:06street network. um it uh is responsive
1:28:12to um and resilient to future climate
1:28:14change and flooding risk and really is
1:28:16going to transform this area as a
1:28:19neighborhood uh in Cambridge that is
1:28:21connected, resilient, and inclusive to
1:28:23welcome more people. So, we're very
1:28:25excited about um the opportunity that
1:28:28this provides. Um
1:28:31it also uh delivers really significant
1:28:34public benefits for the city. Uh, one of
1:28:37note is the o over one acre of space of
1:28:41uh for the DPW municipal yard. Um, as
1:28:45well as the much anticipated and and
1:28:48desired bike pedestrian bridge
1:28:50connecting the quad to the triangle. Um,
1:28:54as um, Mr. Raffertise stated earlier,
1:28:57um, we've been very positive with our
1:29:00conversations with the MBTA. uh the
1:29:03secretary general manager submitted a
1:29:05letter indicating their full commitment
1:29:07for the bike ped bridge. Um as he stated
1:29:10they they do want to do some additional
1:29:12study which would all end up in the
1:29:14ultimate outcome which would be both the
1:29:16bike ped bridge and a commuter rail
1:29:19urban rail station at that location. Um
1:29:22and that really is um kind of the uh
1:29:27in inc uh instrumental to creating the
1:29:31vision that the community had. So really
1:29:33excited to see that this final
1:29:35development plan along aligns with the
1:29:37outcomes from Envision Cambridge and the
1:29:40AOF district plan. Um the follow-up
1:29:42resoning working group um you know staff
1:29:46across multiple departments have worked
1:29:49with Health Peak. Health Peak has
1:29:51continued um to refine and improve the
1:29:53plan, listen to comments um planning
1:29:56board um and we're really excited that
1:29:58we're at this stage tonight um to move
1:30:00this forward and recognize that
1:30:02additional uh sight specific design
1:30:05changes will continue to evolve and
1:30:07happen um at further stages. Um so I
1:30:11will pass it over to I believe Daniel
1:30:13who might be speaking on the urban
1:30:14design tonight.
1:30:17>> Thank you Melissa. Uh I'm Daniel
1:30:19Messplay. I am the director of community
1:30:20planning and design for CDD.
1:30:23This was going to be Eric Thorkelson's
1:30:25remarks and he definitely deserved the
1:30:27floor. He's worked tirelessly on this
1:30:29proposal. Uh as Jeff mentioned in the
1:30:31intro Oh, there he is. His uh his
1:30:34arrival was imminent, so we knew he was
1:30:36going to be uh on any moment. But uh I
1:30:39have Eric's words. So Eric, while you're
1:30:41getting settled, I'm going to go ahead
1:30:43and just keep this thing moving. I'm
1:30:44going to read Eric's words and uh we'll
1:30:47be on our way. So, so thank you again,
1:30:49Melissa.
1:30:51This final development plan is going to
1:30:53fulfill the city's long-standing vision
1:30:55to transform the quadrangle into a fully
1:30:58functional neighborhood with residential
1:30:59and commercial density, connectivity,
1:31:02new streets and parks, firstf flooror
1:31:05active uses, a bicycle pedestrian
1:31:07bridge, and the DPW site. It sets out a
1:31:11great path forward to the more detailed
1:31:13design work of individual buildings and
1:31:15open spaces. The urban design staff memo
1:31:18to the planning board outlines some main
1:31:21recommendations for how the next phase
1:31:23of review will occur, which I'll
1:31:25summarize. As Emily explained in the
1:31:27introduction to the item, this project
1:31:29is now finishing up the special permit
1:31:31stage of review, which uh sets the
1:31:33higher level site design elements. And
1:31:36what will follow is a much more detailed
1:31:39review of specific sites and buildings
1:31:41as part of the design review stage which
1:31:43will also be conducted here with the
1:31:46planning board. We have also included an
1:31:49urban design appendix with the memo.
1:31:51This document is intended to take all of
1:31:54the citywide and area planning thinking
1:31:56the city has done to date from envision
1:31:58alewife as Melissa mentioned uh the
1:32:01city's open space and recreation plan
1:32:03update to the citywide and multif family
1:32:06design guidelines and centralize much of
1:32:09this thinking in one place to make it
1:32:11easier to guide designers staff and the
1:32:14planning board in thinking through some
1:32:16of the nitty-gritty details of
1:32:18particular issues around uses
1:32:20connectivity ity and building form
1:32:22during design review and throughout
1:32:24development of the project. The UD
1:32:27appendix will be attached to the special
1:32:29permit decision as a guiding document
1:32:31that can be referred to during design
1:32:33review. It is not necessarily meant to
1:32:36be prescriptive and can continue to
1:32:39adapt and evolve over time as the
1:32:42project will and as the quadrangle will.
1:32:46The urban design staff memo mainly
1:32:48focuses on requests for additional
1:32:50diagram tune-ups as the project moves
1:32:53into the design review phase. I should
1:32:55note that the final development plan
1:32:57takes a big leap forward by including a
1:33:01lot of the elements into the plan that
1:33:03we initially recommended and we are
1:33:05asking that they just continue to be
1:33:07updated um as the project develops.
1:33:11Specifically, the massing strategy
1:33:14diagram and block diagram should
1:33:15continue to be updated throughout the
1:33:17various phases of the project to reflect
1:33:20the project in its context and how it
1:33:22changes by virtue of sites going through
1:33:24design review approval and getting
1:33:26constructed. We've also included
1:33:28recommendations for the open spaces both
1:33:31encouraging the permite to think
1:33:33holistically about how the open space
1:33:35will fit together and be more than just
1:33:38a sum of their parts. uh similar to what
1:33:41uh Mr. Jones presented sort of earlier
1:33:43in the presentation and how specific
1:33:45amenities like active recreation
1:33:47amenities can be included in the
1:33:49district. And lastly, there are a few
1:33:52recommendations uh related to things
1:33:54like including a vision and strategy for
1:33:56arts and cultural elements that can be
1:33:58integrated both into buildings and parks
1:34:00but also throughout the whole district
1:34:02and thinking through elements of
1:34:04environmental comfort and
1:34:05sustainability.
1:34:07The urban design appendix also offers
1:34:09some different strategies, approaches
1:34:11and design tools for addressing some of
1:34:12the issues in greater detail where
1:34:15appropriate like um the front porches
1:34:17for instance. But overall the final
1:34:20development plan sets the scene for
1:34:21success. It's been a huge lift by uh all
1:34:25the the stakeholders to get to this
1:34:27point and we're looking forward to
1:34:29seeing the next steps in realizing the
1:34:31plan unit development. So thank you.
1:34:35>> Thanks. And I'll just note um this is
1:34:37Jeff to um we do have a lot of material
1:34:40and including CDD's material as well as
1:34:42from uh from Department of
1:34:44Transportation and DPW. So we'll we'll
1:34:46just sort of end our remarks here and
1:34:48but as always we're available to answer
1:34:51questions that board members have.
1:34:53Thanks.
1:34:54>> Great. Thank you very much Jeff, Melissa
1:34:57and um Daniel for your input. At this
1:35:01point, um, are there question? We'll
1:35:03open up for questions from the board to
1:35:05either the applicants or to staff. Um,
1:35:08so anybody have questions that still
1:35:11remain to be answered.
1:35:22[clears throat]
1:35:24>> Great. Um, Ted, why don't you start? Um
1:35:28well actually I just have a a couple of
1:35:31minor questions.
1:35:33Um
1:35:35and I don't know whether this is for
1:35:37staff or
1:35:39VHB.
1:35:41If a rail station were ultimately to be
1:35:45built there,
1:35:47what impact does that have on the
1:35:49parking that's planned to be provided?
1:35:58I can take that one. Um, that's a
1:36:00fantastic question and part of the
1:36:02reason why we built mechanisms into the
1:36:04zoning to reduce parking if utilization
1:36:07is shown to be lower than what has been
1:36:10built. Um, in that case where you know a
1:36:12rail stop is built or the bridge is
1:36:14built uh future parking will be actively
1:36:18reduced in order to meet that adjusted
1:36:20demand.
1:36:22So you view it as uh being a reduction
1:36:26rather than a need for parking for
1:36:28people who might want to take the train
1:36:30and park their car there.
1:36:34>> That's a good question. We we have not
1:36:36heard that uh from the MBTA. I know Ted,
1:36:40you know, there are other um rail stops
1:36:43and in the past the T has required some
1:36:46level of parking. We have not heard that
1:36:49uh from the MBTA at this location yet,
1:36:51which is good news. Um I also do want to
1:36:54just call out the the the new I think
1:36:58exciting news is the mention of the
1:37:00urban rail because as you know commuter
1:37:03rail has had challenges um adding stops
1:37:07which slow the line down which make the
1:37:09line less attractive where that urban
1:37:10rail is a more abbreviated quicker um
1:37:14usage. So, it does play right into our
1:37:17vacancy formula cuz the less that's
1:37:20used, more we can reduce parking. But
1:37:22the fact that they've actually said the
1:37:24words urban rail is pretty good news.
1:37:28>> Great.
1:37:28>> Mr. Chair, just to follow up to that
1:37:30point, uh it should be noted uh Mr.
1:37:32Cohen, there there are no commercial
1:37:35parking garages within this development,
1:37:37right?
1:37:37>> So those garages could not occur in this
1:37:41site. Whether the T who has issues with
1:37:43the current Elwife garage resizes that
1:37:46garage as part of the overall
1:37:47redevelopment, I suspect it's likely
1:37:50they might, but whatever additional
1:37:52parking is related to tea activity will
1:37:54occur on the other side of the commuter
1:37:56rail on T property, not on this, not
1:37:58within this development.
1:38:00>> Okay. Thank you.
1:38:02uh with regard to traffic and uh the the
1:38:07transportation. I mean maybe I misheard
1:38:09or misunderstand what you you said. Uh
1:38:13is there a connection to Blanchard Road
1:38:16from within the the project?
1:38:23>> Well, it's a good question. We have the
1:38:28potential for a multi-use path along the
1:38:31rail line which involves us getting some
1:38:34land rights from the MBTA. Uh we've
1:38:37prioritized the bridge. They said in not
1:38:40so complicated words, focus on the
1:38:43bridge land rights first and then come
1:38:46back and talk to us. Uh the other
1:38:48connection would just be the bike and
1:38:50pedestrian connection to Lumis, but that
1:38:52really is not the most direct way to get
1:38:56uh to Blanchard. We do we do make
1:38:58commitments to uh continue to explore
1:39:00the multi-use path uh which we actually
1:39:04think could work. The TE's just delicate
1:39:07about committing land rights as you
1:39:09know. So we're in a we're prioritizing
1:39:11the the bridge location.
1:39:13>> Okay. I I wasn't sure I understood what
1:39:16the statement was. I just wanted to
1:39:18clarify that. Uh with regard to your
1:39:22neighborhood facilities,
1:39:25um would any of the buildings as you
1:39:29envision them now, uh be able to
1:39:32accommodate a movie theater?
1:39:38>> I don't know. Ryland doesn't get any of
1:39:40my movie references, Ted, because I
1:39:42guess I'm I've aged myself during this
1:39:45process. But Ryland, what's your uh
1:39:48what's your excitement level on movie
1:39:50theater? Let's see if he can earn his
1:39:52money here.
1:39:52>> We'll look into that. I think there's a
1:39:54great opportunity for early activation.
1:39:57Um, we understand that from Anony's
1:39:59historical references and Jim's
1:40:01historical references that the um the uh
1:40:04Eversource um substation, those rather
1:40:07used to be a movie theater, a drive-in
1:40:09movie theater. We do have some space on
1:40:12127 faucet 127 Smith that could act as a
1:40:16potential early activation. So, not a
1:40:19movie theater, but hopefully that's
1:40:21somewhat close. Uh well with the you
1:40:23know my concern is with the absence of a
1:40:26theater in Harvard Square
1:40:28>> it seems shocking that the only movie
1:40:31theaters in Cambridge that I'm aware of
1:40:33is the Brattle and the Apple Theater the
1:40:37Night Fresh going
1:40:38>> no Kendall Kendall Square one
1:40:41>> Kendall yes
1:40:43>> Jim but we do have the Apple cinema that
1:40:46it's now called no longer fresh pond is
1:40:48still going.
1:40:49>> Yes. No, I know.
1:40:50>> And maybe the terminal road connection
1:40:52will get people over there more easily.
1:40:54>> Yeah.
1:40:55>> Okay.
1:40:56Um,
1:40:58a nasty question for staff.
1:41:03Uh, Mr. Rafferty indicated that all of
1:41:06the uh comments in the staff memo uh and
1:41:11conditions had been agreed to. Were
1:41:14there anything that the city and staff
1:41:17would have liked to have seen as a
1:41:20condition that was not agreed to?
1:41:32>> Do I take that as a no?
1:41:34Yeah, I can I waiting to see if anyone
1:41:36uh Good thing that nobody uh volunteered
1:41:40and no, we you know staff across
1:41:42multiple departments, you know, as as we
1:41:44typically do, we put developers through
1:41:46the ringer and and ask for um the gold
1:41:50standard and it's it's been great to see
1:41:53healthy come to the table. um and where
1:41:56appropriate push back. I think also
1:41:58important to recognize the um the
1:42:01economics of developments in this moment
1:42:03and and what's feasible. And I think
1:42:05that's the beauty of um a PUD and be
1:42:09able to do it phased over time and be
1:42:11flexible so that we can continue to um
1:42:15meet the community standards and goals
1:42:17that we have um that are based in our
1:42:19planning work as we move forward and
1:42:21times change.
1:42:23>> Okay. Thank you. Obviously, I would like
1:42:26to see a condition that the bridge would
1:42:28be built first thing in the whole
1:42:30project. Uh I understand that's not
1:42:34going to happen and I'd agree to um
1:42:37those are all my questions right now.
1:42:39>> Thank you, Ted. Um uh we're going to go
1:42:42virtual now. Uh Mary Flynn, it's got her
1:42:45hand up.
1:42:47>> Thank you. Um, sorry I can't uh be with
1:42:50you in person tonight, but uh watching
1:42:53this remotely has been very very
1:42:55impressive. Um, I just want to thank
1:42:58really the development team and and city
1:43:00staff for for really just incredible
1:43:03work over so many many years. Um, it's a
1:43:07very complex project, but I think you
1:43:09guys have uh made it a little bit easier
1:43:11for us. But um, I have two questions.
1:43:14Uh, one is in regard to the um the
1:43:18potential of commuter rail uh or
1:43:20commuter rail stop, which would be
1:43:22terrific. Um, but my concern is that a
1:43:26project of that size is going to delay u
1:43:31potentially delay the bridge um even
1:43:34further. I mean, I know we're looking at
1:43:36a three-year planning process. that
1:43:38doesn't seem unreasonable, but then
1:43:41particularly if the pedestrian bridge is
1:43:44integrated
1:43:46um somehow with the with the commuter
1:43:48rail stop um you know there's issues
1:43:51always of funding for ex for the MBTA
1:43:55etc. So, I'm I'm just curious as to um
1:44:00you know, sort of any kind of thinking
1:44:03people have at this point about uh
1:44:06preferencing plan. Um what what would be
1:44:10the fall back if for some reason the
1:44:12bridge is is further delayed? Are there
1:44:15opportunities to
1:44:17um put more transportation demand
1:44:20management um
1:44:23activities or programs in place that
1:44:26would help us during that period? So
1:44:28that's sort of one big area um that I'd
1:44:31like addressed. And then secondly, um it
1:44:34says [clears throat] I know obviously
1:44:36you're trying to reduce the parking as
1:44:37much as possible and that that is in
1:44:40line with what the board has been um
1:44:42thinking on this. Um the staff memo, the
1:44:45CDD staff memo still references four
1:44:48garages. Um and I think I only saw three
1:44:52on the revised plan. I think there used
1:44:55to be one up well along conquer near
1:44:57near Smith Place. Um, so can you just
1:45:01clarify the number of of garages and how
1:45:05um if there are four, how is the um the
1:45:09decision going to be made in terms of
1:45:11um what happens to that site if the if
1:45:14the garage isn't needed? Those are my
1:45:17questions.
1:45:18>> Mary, thank you. Just as privilege of
1:45:19the chair, the letter from the tea has
1:45:22been referenced tonight both by the
1:45:24applicant and by Melissa. Um, obviously
1:45:27it's been shared with those of us who
1:45:29are imshed in this uh review and we've
1:45:32read it, but it might be good for people
1:45:34who don't have that in front of them or
1:45:37are listening in tonight if you could
1:45:40summarize the letter. And by the way,
1:45:43it's it's written in beautiful
1:45:45bureaucratic language, but uh so you
1:45:47could might be able to interpret it in
1:45:49different ways. and I would appreciate
1:45:51um an attorney's view of what um uh uh
1:45:55what's being promised in the letter.
1:45:57Just a quick summary and then to Mary's
1:45:59question. Thank you, Mary.
1:46:01>> Mr. Chair, uh the most important part of
1:46:04the letter is the final sentence. I'll
1:46:06quote directly. A high quality
1:46:08connection from the Alweight quadrangle
1:46:10over the Fitch Fitchsburg line will
1:46:12happen and we look forward to
1:46:14structuring agreements, advancing MBTA
1:46:17infrastructure studies and reporting
1:46:18back to the Cambridge planning board no
1:46:21later than three years from the date of
1:46:23final DUD master plan approval. The
1:46:26letter is from the general manager of
1:46:28the tea, also the secretary of
1:46:30transportation to the planning board.
1:46:32came about as a result of lots of
1:46:34engagement with Cambridge's city manager
1:46:37and Ms. Peters and her staff. The letter
1:46:40is uh in my view quite significant
1:46:43because in all the years we've been
1:46:45talking about bridge. We've never got
1:46:48this level of engagement. What the
1:46:50letter does set forth too, however, is
1:46:52it offers a rationale as to why they
1:46:55need the three years. And as Melissa was
1:46:57describing from a T transportation
1:47:00planning perspective, they didn't want
1:47:03to forego the opportunity for urban
1:47:05rail, which they characterize as a
1:47:08different form of commuter rail, a more
1:47:10a hybrid perhaps between a subway
1:47:12transit system and commuter rail. Uh
1:47:15they're studying that that there's other
1:47:17areas in in the system where they're
1:47:19also looking at that. They think it
1:47:21works very well or has the potential to
1:47:23work well here. So the question about uh
1:47:27Mary asks does the
1:47:30would the introduction or construction
1:47:32of an urban rail stop delay the bridge
1:47:36the pedestrian bridge candidly I think
1:47:38that's perhaps a possibility but I think
1:47:41the big picture thinking that is
1:47:43necessary here from a transportation
1:47:46perspective is really what requires that
1:47:48to occur as I mentioned at the outset in
1:47:51our early engagement with the tea and we
1:47:53were engaged four or five years ago, we
1:47:56were we were advocating for a bridge at
1:47:58this location. We were pushing on the
1:48:00bridge and we were making progress. The
1:48:02team went through a sighting process uh
1:48:05that they they contact all the other
1:48:07agencies in in the transportation system
1:48:09and see how they feel about the
1:48:11location. What's the name of that
1:48:12process called?
1:48:16>> Yeah, there's a certain process. We went
1:48:18through that process. At no point in
1:48:20that process did we hear, "Oh, you know
1:48:22what? We're thinking of urban rail here.
1:48:24So, it did set us back a little when we
1:48:26were two years down the road with the
1:48:28tea when all of a sudden this seemed to
1:48:30be an emerging priority and we thought,
1:48:34you know, that's going to really slow us
1:48:37down. But to the credit of the tea and
1:48:39most importantly to the credit of city
1:48:41management leadership, they embraced
1:48:43this thing. And as Eric Wondon noticed,
1:48:46it would be a win-win. It might add to
1:48:48the time, but the outcome would be the
1:48:50best of both worlds. an improved transit
1:48:53system and a pedestrian bike bridge.
1:48:56>> And if I could just add to that, the the
1:48:59and I I want to thank uh Melissa Peters
1:49:04and the city manager because my guess is
1:49:05that when this letter first came over,
1:49:08it didn't have a three-year um condition
1:49:11on it. Just in my experience with the
1:49:13MBTA, as attorney Raffid has mentioned,
1:49:16that's that's unprecedented.
1:49:19Mary, I don't I don't think that this
1:49:22indicates any kind of potential delay.
1:49:25Um the T had things that were at a
1:49:28higher uh pay grade that they were
1:49:30looking at regarding not just commuter
1:49:32rail but electrification and things like
1:49:34that and every time we would jump on a
1:49:37call they would sort of defer to those
1:49:39third party evaluations.
1:49:41This is the first time that they've
1:49:43said, you know, we we need to look at
1:49:45those things with relation to uh land
1:49:47rights, but we will make a decision
1:49:49within three years once we get a
1:49:51location um nailed down. [clears throat]
1:49:54We have other have had other
1:49:56conversations with the MBTA about
1:49:58blending bridge, urban rail, etc., which
1:50:02gives us some control um over that. But
1:50:06honestly, if if anything, this action
1:50:10and we said from the beginning, we
1:50:12needed we were actually Ted, your alarm
1:50:15at the last meeting was incredibly
1:50:16helpful to us because we were saying to
1:50:18the administration. Um, we need you for
1:50:21them to listen to us. Everyone thinks
1:50:23it's developers that have their ear.
1:50:25They want to hear from municipalities.
1:50:27So, all that um attention and noise got
1:50:31their attention. So, no Mary, I think if
1:50:33anything, it's it's the opposite. And
1:50:35we've also created mechanisms to blend
1:50:38um both a stop and bridge. So, right
1:50:42now, it's it's all it's all good news.
1:50:48>> Great. I I will say it it is really
1:50:50remarkable how far it's come and and the
1:50:53commitment that is on the the table
1:50:55seems to be um really the first of its
1:51:00kind. I certainly have seen both in my
1:51:02time on the board as well as my time
1:51:04working for the for the city many many
1:51:06years ago. So, um yeah, my thanks to to
1:51:09everybody who did that. Um
1:51:12again, I'm just
1:51:15I I agree that both are are wonderful
1:51:17things and should happen. I'm just kind
1:51:19of worried about that period where we're
1:51:22getting more and more buildout and it
1:51:24takes a little bit longer. Well, I'm I'm
1:51:27just saying perhaps we could consider um
1:51:30that there may need to be some
1:51:32additional interim traffic measures as
1:51:34we go forward depending on what happens
1:51:36with the
1:51:36>> T.
1:51:38That's just a thought. Then my other
1:51:40question was on the garages.
1:51:42>> Yep. Real quick touching on the intra
1:51:45mechanisms whether it's a pedestrian
1:51:47bridge or a rail stop that includes a
1:51:49pedestrian bridge the mechanisms in the
1:51:51zoning still govern the timing and
1:51:54prevent future buildout based on that.
1:51:56So while that is being constructed, it
1:51:59is within Health Peak's interest and
1:52:01truly we see this as a partnership with
1:52:03the MBTA um to continue to move that
1:52:06forward on a timeline that makes sense
1:52:08and is consistent with the zoning that
1:52:09the AL wife working group has worked
1:52:11through. And the
1:52:18>> um also I want to point out the four
1:52:22garages that you mentioned. There's one
1:52:24next to the Cambridge Highlands, one
1:52:27additionally at the end of Smith. That's
1:52:29P1 and P2 um in the Mooney Quad area.
1:52:33The next is next to 725 conquered which
1:52:36is the existing medical office building.
1:52:38That one is connected to residential. So
1:52:41that's probably the one that was harder
1:52:43to see. It's masked from the main
1:52:44street, so you don't see the parking.
1:52:46And then the last one is P the P3
1:52:48parking garage, which was mentioned by
1:52:50one of the public commenters, which
1:52:52unfortunately I think he left. Um, but
1:52:55the mechanisms that we included in the
1:52:57zoning, uh, to reduce parking over time,
1:53:00those were directly to reduce parking in
1:53:02that parking garage because that parking
1:53:04garage is the probably the last parking
1:53:05garage we're going to build. We're
1:53:07limited by existing in place leases that
1:53:09we're not even able to touch it till
1:53:102020 2024
1:53:132040, excuse me. Um, so there's plenty
1:53:16of time for all the PTDM measures that
1:53:18we've been working on, all the early
1:53:20reductions in parking and traffic demand
1:53:22that Selma talked about to take into
1:53:24effect so we can endeavor to reduce the
1:53:26size of that parking garage.
1:53:29>> Well, that's that's really really good
1:53:30news um for those butters um and for the
1:53:33city as a whole. Um, and thank you for
1:53:35the clarification on the fourth garage.
1:53:37Yes, I have to say that um my eyesight
1:53:38isn't quite as great as it used to be
1:53:40and some of the plans are a little
1:53:42small, but
1:53:45those are all of my questions. Thank
1:53:47you.
1:53:48>> Thank you, Mary. Um Dan has indicated he
1:53:50has a question.
1:53:52>> Yeah, thank you. So, um thank you, Mr.
1:53:54Chair. Uh I think probably following
1:53:56after Ted a little bit, I'm sure we're
1:53:58we're um all concerned with the
1:54:01reduction in parking. So some of these
1:54:02comments go a long way to help that. Um
1:54:04obviously as a PUD piece we'll have a
1:54:07chance to come back and look at these.
1:54:08So I appreciate the flexibility in this.
1:54:10Um particularly since a lot of the
1:54:12letters that came in were really
1:54:13concerned about traffic impact on an
1:54:16already stressed um um set of rotaries.
1:54:19Um so the ability to to manage and look
1:54:23at actual parking requirements over time
1:54:27obviously is built into this. So um but
1:54:29for my portion just a clarification
1:54:32question um appreciate the reduction in
1:54:34the parking counts but I may have missed
1:54:37it but is there a kind of parking ratio
1:54:39that can be attributed partly to
1:54:41commercial partly to residential um that
1:54:43helps me understand how those uh how
1:54:46those numbers translate into um kind of
1:54:49usability.
1:54:55Yes.
1:54:56>> Do you audio? Um, so so there are some
1:55:00baseline parking ratios uh that we're
1:55:03kind of starting at, but the whole
1:55:05opportunity that we get is really by
1:55:08sharing between the commercial and the
1:55:10residential so that we don't have to
1:55:13have a separate kind of set of parking
1:55:16spaces for, you know, office employees
1:55:18and then a separate for residents.
1:55:21They're not there at the same time. So
1:55:23why not blend it and kind of use that
1:55:26same physical space so that we don't
1:55:28have to kind of uh you know o overbuild.
1:55:31Uh the baseline parking is so zoning is
1:55:351.1 we have reduced that to 1.0
1:55:39uh for uh general office and the lab
1:55:42is.8
1:55:44uh the residential is 75 but that's kind
1:55:47of the the baseline. If nothing gets
1:55:49shared, it's really the sharing that we
1:55:52really want to lean into and and that's
1:55:54where the opportunities come to to hit
1:55:56those lower parking supply um kind of um
1:56:01efficiencies.
1:56:02>> Great. Thank you. So that the 1,200 um
1:56:05reduction comes from the from the
1:56:07traffic management sharing of commercial
1:56:09and
1:56:09>> Exactly. Exactly. And and validating the
1:56:12the vacancy studies. Right. If we're not
1:56:14seeing that the parking is being
1:56:16utilized, there's an opportunity to not
1:56:18build out those future parking garages
1:56:20that are later in the in the timeline.
1:56:23>> Right. I think my understanding is that
1:56:25particularly with closer access to
1:56:27transit, uh those numbers, particularly
1:56:29for residential, can drop significantly.
1:56:31I think maybe um I direct that back
1:56:33towards traffic and and planning uh for
1:56:36those kinds of of actual parking ratios
1:56:38that may be lower than 75, maybe below
1:56:420.5. Yeah, the the the effective would
1:56:45would be definitely below those those B
1:56:48once you take into account the sharing
1:56:49for sure. Yeah.
1:56:50>> Yeah. And I think that that the
1:56:52follow-up question has already been
1:56:54answered which is there is potentially
1:56:56reduction in height of parking garages
1:56:58based on those uh hopeful predictions.
1:57:00That's all my question.
1:57:02>> Yeah.
1:57:02>> Thank you, Dan. Ashley.
1:57:05>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just have a um
1:57:07technical question. I think this is
1:57:08probably for CDD staff, but so we
1:57:11received a thick package of special
1:57:15permit conditions. Um, and then we
1:57:17afterwards got a DOT memo with that also
1:57:20had other conditions. Are those going to
1:57:21be incorporated into
1:57:24that big package that we first got or
1:57:27otherwise referenced? Because I think
1:57:28there is a lot of good stuff in the um
1:57:30DOT memo. Thank you.
1:57:35>> So, uh, sorry, this is Jeeoff. I I can
1:57:37speak to that. So the the idea is you
1:57:40know the the conditions and this is sort
1:57:42of typical for for PUD projects. We've
1:57:45we've done a lot of these um that
1:57:47there's a an overall set of conditions
1:57:49that you know talks about things like
1:57:51you know what's what's allowed, how
1:57:52development gets phase, how the designer
1:57:54view process works. There's a lot of it
1:57:55is procedural. Um but then there's a um
1:57:59the the way that uh transportation is
1:58:02organized their comments. They have sort
1:58:04of an attachment which is a they call
1:58:07transportation mitigation program. So
1:58:09it's kind of a consolidated document
1:58:11that lays out all the different elements
1:58:12which sort of dovetail in with the the
1:58:15development review process. So that we
1:58:17would recommend attaching um and making
1:58:21reference to as as a set of conditions.
1:58:24um the DBW memo I believe because it has
1:58:27a few different kind of discreet
1:58:28elements we've kind of incorporated that
1:58:30all into the um into the conditions
1:58:33package and similar you know the
1:58:35comments from you know urban design you
1:58:37know some of that is incorporated into
1:58:38the into the comments but there's also
1:58:41the intention to attach that uh urban
1:58:43design appendix that would be kind of a
1:58:45guiding document that would get looked
1:58:47at when uh different elements come in
1:58:50for design you.
1:58:56>> Oh, great. Uh, Mary,
1:59:01>> um, thank you. So, uh, my question is,
1:59:05uh, looking at the Cambridge Bicycle
1:59:07Committee, and I'm not sure if this is
1:59:08the applicant, maybe Selma or, um, city
1:59:12staff. Can you talk a little bit about
1:59:14the way phasing and the reconstruction
1:59:18or the complete streets especially at
1:59:19Smith and Faucet and the intersections
1:59:21of Concrete, how does that sequence with
1:59:23the development? So, say you do phase
1:59:25one and you have the buildings, you
1:59:27know, they're inset. Would you be doing
1:59:29the full street reconstruction with with
1:59:32that?
1:59:34>> Yep. That's that's absolutely right. So,
1:59:36the places where you have the
1:59:38infrastructure immediately adjacent to
1:59:39the buildings, those would be built out
1:59:41at the same time. um where we have
1:59:44off-site improvements, those
1:59:45improvements are laid out within the DOT
1:59:48uh conditions that Ashley just
1:59:49mentioned. Uh some of them include
1:59:51improvements along Conquered Avenue
1:59:53where we're not building along Conert
1:59:56Avenue, but we have short-term, midterm,
1:59:58and long-term improvements that are laid
2:00:01out through the memo itself. So, it's
2:00:03it's a combination of the two.
2:00:05[laughter]
2:00:06But, um ultimately, yes, that is
2:00:08correct.
2:00:15Okay, Carolyn.
2:00:20>> Okay, great. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I
2:00:23appreciate the comments on the parking.
2:00:24I had a bunch of questions about that,
2:00:26most of which have been solved. Um, so
2:00:28thank you. Um, there were two kind of if
2:00:31then scenarios in the DOT memo about
2:00:33reducing parking. one that had to do
2:00:34with timing, which kind of implies that
2:00:37those that when it's fully built, those
2:00:40spaces could be eliminated maybe. Um, so
2:00:43that's a I guess a question to you guys.
2:00:44The other one was about um R5 and
2:00:47whether or not that's multif family. Is
2:00:49the alternative on R5 that it's
2:00:51affordable housing and therefore the
2:00:53parking ratio is different.
2:00:56So for that one in particular, the
2:00:57alternative is senior housing actually
2:01:00and we weren't able and which would
2:01:02still fall under the residential uh
2:01:04parking ratios. Um and we weren't able
2:01:08to commit to a reduction or a change
2:01:10based on that use since we're not sure
2:01:12which um ratio of acuity would go into
2:01:16that. We're going to have to do a study
2:01:18on whether or not you know memory care
2:01:20or or assisted living or independent
2:01:22living made the most sense. And each one
2:01:24of those has different parking
2:01:25requirements. So at that time when we go
2:01:27through design review, that would be
2:01:28part of the conversation.
2:01:30>> Okay, great.
2:01:31>> And then regarding your first question
2:01:32on timing and phasing of the parking, do
2:01:35you have specifics of where that's
2:01:37mentioned since I know there's a variety
2:01:39of mechanisms within
2:01:41the conditions?
2:01:42>> So it's just saying that if P2 is built
2:01:44before R1 and or R8 that the parking in
2:01:47the resi buildings will be
2:01:49>> dropped down the total parking space.
2:01:51Would that make the resi buildings
2:01:52smaller? Is that a reduction in total
2:01:54square footage or would that use get
2:01:55filled in by
2:01:57>> It's a great question. So the overall
2:01:59the total square footage of resi won't
2:02:02change because the parking is not
2:02:03included in that number. The parking
2:02:05will just be relocated to the parking
2:02:07garage and thus shared. So the parking
2:02:09within the two residential buildings R1
2:02:11and R8 would be eliminated at that time
2:02:13resulting in a net reduction in parking.
2:02:15So the 13-story buildings which were
2:02:17typically a threestory podium with a
2:02:1910-story tower on top are now just
2:02:2210-story towers with retail or amenities
2:02:24at the bottom.
2:02:26>> Okay, great. Um I had um a question for
2:02:30city staff. This is just to confirm
2:02:32maybe state the audience but make myself
2:02:34feel better about it. Parking garages
2:02:36are when we all the bu individual
2:02:38buildings come back for design review
2:02:40that includes parking garages.
2:02:44>> Yes. Uh those are determined building
2:02:45sites and they will receive a design
2:02:47review as well.
2:02:49>> Thank you. Um
2:02:52um a question for Chris. Um the park um
2:02:56in the northwest quadrant um is from
2:03:00some perspectives tucked between you
2:03:02have to access it through buildings or
2:03:05kind of tucked between buildings. Is
2:03:07there are you focused on wayfinding and
2:03:09encouraging people to get into that
2:03:11space? I assume you are. This is again
2:03:13just to make myself feel better about
2:03:15this because I I parks to me feel more
2:03:18public when they are kind of I know
2:03:20there's one side that is on a public
2:03:22street but um it still feel has a
2:03:24potential to feel kind of like a private
2:03:26park for those business the commercial
2:03:28buildings on that quadrant. Yeah, it's a
2:03:31good question and I did touch on
2:03:32wayfinding briefly um when I was
2:03:35speaking and um the biggest gesture or
2:03:38move that happened with the C4 building
2:03:40shifting to the corner really um
2:03:43transformed the space in ter terms of
2:03:45opening up um you know two sides of that
2:03:49green space where before it was a much
2:03:52more enclosed and sort of a corporate
2:03:54quadrangle. We we understood the
2:03:57objective was to make that as much a
2:03:58public park open space as possible. And
2:04:01I I think that move and the strong
2:04:04connection we're making north south to
2:04:06the future multi-use path um along
2:04:09Mooney Street really those sort of
2:04:12series of connections um are all meant
2:04:15to promote the invitation for everybody
2:04:18to use that space.
2:04:22>> Thank you.
2:04:24Great. Anybody else? Yeah, Diego.
2:04:28>> Um, my question is about flooding and I
2:04:32know you mentioned sort of the, you
2:04:35know, 1% and active uses, but there was
2:04:38a comment from the pedestrian committee
2:04:40about um, protecting pedestrian pathways
2:04:42and the bridge. And, um, I guess I just
2:04:46didn't see anything or maybe I missed it
2:04:47about sort of the flood strategy for the
2:04:50pedestrian use and and the bridge as
2:04:52well. Um that's my question. Thanks.
2:04:56>> Yeah. So in the most recent um FEMA
2:04:58flood map which was adopted by the city
2:05:00council, the ALY development was removed
2:05:03from the flood plane. So the absence of
2:05:05that was most likely due to it no longer
2:05:08applying. To your point though, the
2:05:10bridge is still included in the 100-year
2:05:13flood plane. Um so we will be working
2:05:15with the MBTA and the city to make sure
2:05:17we're putting in the necessary u
2:05:19mitigations for that.
2:05:26Great. Well, I have I have a few
2:05:28questions. Thank you, Diego. Um, one is
2:05:32I I my first question maybe is pretty
2:05:34straightforward. Uh, the start of the
2:05:38bridge is considered a trigger given
2:05:41that it's going to take three years to
2:05:44think whether the bridge should happen
2:05:45and maybe I don't know how many more
2:05:47years to design and detail it. Is the
2:05:50start the start of the design or the
2:05:53start of the construction?
2:05:57>> So per the zoning at the 50% commercial
2:05:59buildout, it would be start of
2:06:01construction. We have spent the last
2:06:02three years with the MBTA running
2:06:04through design. I mean John has
2:06:07redesigned that bridge four times in the
2:06:10last three months. [laughter]
2:06:11>> Okay. Okay. So, we're constantly working
2:06:13through design so that when we do get
2:06:15the go-ahad from the MBTA, we can
2:06:17immediately hit the ground running or
2:06:18once we hit that zoning requirement of
2:06:20the 50% buildup.
2:06:22>> Great. Thank you. Uh that's the answer I
2:06:24was hoping for. And um there's reference
2:06:27to the partnership with Eversource and
2:06:31potentially
2:06:32a group of thermal wells uh in uh
2:06:36working there. That's also prompts what
2:06:39is a master fundamentally a master
2:06:41planning question rather than a design
2:06:43review question was are you considering
2:06:46districtwide beyond that districtwide
2:06:48energy solutions if if I've learned
2:06:51anything in my years working on
2:06:52sustainability.
2:06:54Uh the answer is going to come from
2:06:56working together rather than one
2:06:57building at a time. So is that something
2:06:59that you're thinking about that
2:07:00potentially uh you you gang the energy
2:07:03room?
2:07:04>> Yeah, absolutely. And I'm glad you
2:07:06brought it up because our conversations
2:07:08with the city sustainability department
2:07:10and Eversource have been really
2:07:12encouraging. They have been working
2:07:14together to create a framework for a
2:07:16public private type of infrastructure
2:07:18specifically around geothermal energy
2:07:20systems where the infrastructure will be
2:07:23owned by Eversource which is personally
2:07:24the hardest part for a private
2:07:26developers to own all the infrastructure
2:07:27that would be used by adjacent property
2:07:29owners. the framework was they would be
2:07:32owning that um that infrastructure and
2:07:34then we would be providing land for the
2:07:36wells. We're certainly interested in
2:07:39evaluating that. I believe that the city
2:07:41and the Eversource are going to come out
2:07:42at the end of the month or in the next
2:07:43couple of months on that framework and
2:07:45their progress. So, we're looking into
2:07:47continuing those conversations once that
2:07:49framework is more built out.
2:07:51That's a geothermal
2:07:53a great idea, you know, but with a lot
2:07:56of complications, but with a what with
2:07:58just virtually a giant campus, you know,
2:08:00a central utility plant, a central
2:08:03energy plant, steam plant to service the
2:08:06buildings over time. Uh there's enormous
2:08:10economies at least in energy, maybe not
2:08:12in capital to make that happen. Is that
2:08:14something you're considering?
2:08:16>> Uh certainly as part of those
2:08:17conversations, we've considered it. um
2:08:19in detail though I probably would pass
2:08:21this over to Jess um from Ailia 10 to
2:08:24talk to this in further depth.
2:08:26>> Yeah. And so early on we we did
2:08:27definitely look at this um and how we
2:08:29could divide as the team was kind of
2:08:32programming and thinking about what
2:08:33types of buildings made sense where on
2:08:35the site uh thinking about how that
2:08:37would impact those potentials for shared
2:08:39energy. Right? We we um have a good
2:08:42synergy between commercial potential lab
2:08:45program and residential in how that heat
2:08:48is shared. um right now and particularly
2:08:50with the early phases here we're looking
2:08:52at, we don't quite have that diversity
2:08:55um to to fully support that. But again,
2:08:57if we're plugging into a larger system
2:08:58that we're just one component of, there
2:09:00might be some more opportunities there.
2:09:02Um and and again, in how that really is
2:09:05structured over the the course of the
2:09:07next few decades um would be where those
2:09:09efficiencies are found when we really
2:09:11have a much stronger system there
2:09:13versus, you know, us putting one or two
2:09:15buildings in are connected. Um and so
2:09:18that's what we saw as some of the bigger
2:09:20uh and as we looked at the buildings and
2:09:22individually their opportunities for
2:09:23efficiency on each of their individual
2:09:25sites with their with the systems and
2:09:27where they are today and efficiencies.
2:09:29>> Okay. Well, great. Keep the thinking go
2:09:31going. And then this is also to you know
2:09:33to prompt the city staff. Obviously
2:09:35there's going to be more conversations.
2:09:37Um um I would I would like to uh get
2:09:42some uh response to a number of
2:09:44questions that came up in public comment
2:09:46around operations at DPW, the impact on
2:09:50a on a butters and the neighborhood of
2:09:52you know the inevitable beep beep beep
2:09:54from the backup of those trucks. I mean
2:09:56how are we how are we thinking about
2:09:58that?
2:10:11Thank you for that question. I'm Jim
2:10:12Wilcox, city engineer at the public
2:10:14works department. Um, so the intended
2:10:17use for the the DPW possible is for DPW
2:10:20operations.
2:10:22Um, those operations would be very
2:10:25similar to what currently goes on at 147
2:10:28Hampshire Street, which is in a
2:10:30residential neighborhood. So, we are
2:10:32quite familiar with running our
2:10:34operation in that type of setting. Um,
2:10:38this parcel is a great opportunity for
2:10:40us because we have significantly
2:10:42outgrown our space at 147 Hampshire
2:10:44Street. So, we're looking forward to the
2:10:47opportunity to have this facility as
2:10:49part of the development. [snorts]
2:10:52>> So, I don't know if that's going to
2:10:54reassure the community, but uh Oh,
2:10:56Melissa's got her hand up.
2:11:00Thank you. Um I might just add that um
2:11:04during the community process, it became
2:11:06very clear from the community and the
2:11:09abuing neighbors that they love DPW as a
2:11:13neighbor and actually um preferred DPW
2:11:17and that specific location on the
2:11:18western portion of the quad. So the
2:11:20location of DPW is responsive to what uh
2:11:24the existing neighbors um wanted because
2:11:27DPW was known to be a good neighbor that
2:11:29the operations that happened there um
2:11:32were you know not the more nuisance
2:11:35operations that you would expect but
2:11:37rather it was more of a a low inensity
2:11:40um use that people got accustomed to and
2:11:43and appreciated.
2:11:45>> Mr. Chair, can I just add to historic
2:11:47context,
2:11:49the and this goes back to my early days
2:11:53on the council when the end of Lumis was
2:11:56being developed, the biggest fear was
2:11:59that development would unleash open up
2:12:02traffic to come from the quad into into
2:12:05the Highlands. There was a commitment by
2:12:07that developer. If they were able to get
2:12:1016 units, they would in perpetuity uh
2:12:14restrict access. That developer never
2:12:17finished. So that covenant never was
2:12:20made. So when we began um neighbors
2:12:23again, Ann Tennis, John Chung
2:12:27asked attorney Raffod and I, can you
2:12:29find somebody that will buy this? this
2:12:32was before Health Peak's existence to
2:12:33try to get that site under control so
2:12:36that we can not worry about traffic
2:12:39pouring into the Highlands. Um, in the
2:12:41meantime, DPW developed a need for
2:12:44additional space so the stars aligned. I
2:12:47I don't think I meant to grab one of the
2:12:50uh condo owners to explain the history
2:12:52because I don't think they realize how
2:12:54close they were to having a freeway
2:12:56through up Luma Street and what we've
2:12:59done to avoid that. But I got to I got
2:13:00to circle back with those owners. Sorry,
2:13:03Mr. Chair.
2:13:05>> Uh, no, that's terrific. And there'll be
2:13:09>> Squirrel wants to note about the
2:13:12existence today of DPW activities in
2:13:14this area.
2:13:15>> Yes. So, DPW is an existing tenant that
2:13:18abuts the residents that called in. So,
2:13:21a lot of the uses that would be proposed
2:13:23in the future are very consistent with
2:13:24what there is today. Also, I want to
2:13:27point out the proposed development of
2:13:29the DPW building is in between the comm
2:13:33the uh neighbors and the yard. So, it
2:13:35would act as a sound buffer as well.
2:13:38>> Great. Thank you for those details. Um,
2:13:41and my last question uh thank you for
2:13:44the phasing plan and I know there's a
2:13:45lot of crystal ball work that has to go
2:13:48into that. Um, it's really maybe a
2:13:50slightly rude question about uh the
2:13:52veracity of that. Um and uh how is that
2:13:57is the phasing plan memorialized? Uh and
2:14:01to what extent are are you going to be
2:14:03tied to that? Um given that you're
2:14:06you've got to develop at the whims of
2:14:08the market and etc.
2:14:12>> You're absolutely right. It is a crystal
2:14:14ball and it's definitely more of an art
2:14:15than it is a science. Um we first
2:14:18started off with breaking the phasing
2:14:20into two categories before bridge
2:14:22construction and after bridge
2:14:23construction at 50% commercial buildout.
2:14:26We then broke it into two sub uh
2:14:28subphases. In the first phase it's
2:14:30broken between residential and
2:14:31commercial due to market conditions. Res
2:14:34right now neither work but residential
2:14:37is more likely to work in the future
2:14:39based on some of the value engineering
2:14:41that we've been working on and
2:14:42conversations that we've been having
2:14:43with the city. So we're eager to move
2:14:45forward with that. That's why you see
2:14:46that in phase 1 A the individual
2:14:49buildings within phase 1 A and phase 1B
2:14:52similarly with phase 2 A and 2B can be
2:14:55moved interchangeably but to move from a
2:14:57building from phase 2 to phase one
2:14:59requires a minor amendment. So that
2:15:01would be part of our discussions with
2:15:03you all in case that happens in the
2:15:05future based on market conditions.
2:15:07>> Yeah. So that's the mechanism that
2:15:08exists there. Okay.
2:15:09>> That that mechanism exists within the
2:15:11ordinance. Article 12 provides uh
2:15:14>> I mean phasing is contemplated as
2:15:17something that could and often does
2:15:19change. So we would follow the uh the
2:15:22structure set forth in in the decision
2:15:25always reflect that that reference to
2:15:27the ordinance in section 12.
2:15:28>> Yeah. Except that you have the bridge.
2:15:30The bridge is immovable. There's before
2:15:32and after the bridge. So in the end that
2:15:34that component of the phasing really is
2:15:37>> also memorialized to the zoning and that
2:15:39really isn't negotiable.
2:15:41>> Right. Okay.
2:15:43All right. So, these this group's feet
2:15:45are held to the fire more than what we
2:15:48usually see around phasing. Um, that's
2:15:52it for my questions. Um, anybody else on
2:15:54the board?
2:15:56>> Mr. Chair.
2:15:57>> Yes, Ted. I have just one other question
2:15:59that is not directly related, but what
2:16:02is the status of the uh continuation of
2:16:07Terminal Road
2:16:09uh to I guess to Wheeler Street?
2:16:15>> I can start and then I might
2:16:19put some pressure on the city. We we've
2:16:23we've agreed [snorts] to additional
2:16:24monies. one is sort of a what I would
2:16:26call identifying who may use it and what
2:16:29the impacts would be. We've also um made
2:16:33a commitment of funding construction.
2:16:36As you know, Eversource
2:16:38controls the piece of land that would
2:16:40make it far easier. Um we're hoping that
2:16:44there's a there's a way to get this
2:16:46connection without a lot of that
2:16:48building for bike and ped. um vehicular
2:16:52probably gets more challenging, but it's
2:16:54still in play. Um I don't know if if
2:16:56someone from the city wants to speak to
2:16:58it. I you know, Ted, when we did the
2:17:0155wheeler approval, this was a big
2:17:03topic. It would make life a lot easier.
2:17:06Our connections connect to it, the muse
2:17:09that we did along 55 Wheeler. So, it
2:17:12would be a big deal. Um but there's some
2:17:14work to do with Eversource and hopefully
2:17:17the city's continuing to make some
2:17:19progress. We're glad that it's
2:17:20memorialized in the mitigation.
2:17:25>> Yeah, just to add to that. So, um, back
2:17:28at the, uh, utility presentation I did
2:17:30to the planning board in June, I did
2:17:32provide a couple of concepts, um, that
2:17:34DPW is working on for what terminal road
2:17:37extension could look like. So we are
2:17:40still in the process of working through
2:17:41those design concepts and um working
2:17:45with Eversource on how we can go about
2:17:48uh putting that in place.
2:17:51[snorts]
2:17:51>> So has ever source agreed this could
2:17:53happen or still
2:17:56>> sorry it I think you need to stay on the
2:17:58microphone.
2:17:59>> I was asking has ever source agreed to
2:18:02it in concept.
2:18:07So, Eversource has agreed to it in
2:18:09concept. Obviously, there is a a
2:18:11conveyance process we need to go through
2:18:14to get rights to build that road on that
2:18:16land, but in concept, Eversource has
2:18:18agreed to it.
2:18:20>> Thank you.
2:18:23>> Great. At this point, we're coming up on
2:18:27uh two two and a
2:18:30quarter hours here. I think what I would
2:18:32suggest before we move to board
2:18:34discussion at the risk of uh creating a
2:18:37dramatic pause for the uh uh the
2:18:40proponent here that we take a break um
2:18:43get something to I need something to
2:18:45drink but uh just take a quick break
2:18:47clear our heads um and then uh reconvene
2:18:51I'd say uh at 9:00 to start our
2:18:55discussions and deliberations there's a
2:18:57a fairly rich set of conditions that
2:19:00we're also going to have and findings
2:19:02we're going to have to make as a board.
2:19:03So, it would be good to stretch our legs
2:19:05a little bit. So, I would say we'll take
2:19:08a break till 9:00. Thank you.
2:32:02All right, we're going to reconvene if
2:32:04everybody wants to take their seat.
2:32:12[clears throat]
2:32:23Okay, great. Thank you. So, at at this
2:32:27point, um, we're going to have board
2:32:30discussion. I want to reassure everybody
2:32:32there was no discussion at the break
2:32:34either in the in the in the city council
2:32:37room or here relative to the relative to
2:32:40the issues before us. That only happens
2:32:42in this public forum. So um at this
2:32:46point uh we'll move uh to discussion
2:32:48from board members. And does somebody
2:32:50want to take uh the first
2:32:53pass at this
2:33:02Mary Liecker? Oh, we've got a Mary Flynn
2:33:05up too, but we'll go. She went first
2:33:06last time. We'll we'll take the Mary in
2:33:08the room first.
2:33:09>> Mary Marielle to start. Um
2:33:12uh well thank you to the applicants and
2:33:14everybody and also of course the city
2:33:16staff. It's very clear how much thought
2:33:18has been put into this and how many
2:33:21decades at this point it really has been
2:33:23been wanted. Um I think it's a really
2:33:27challenging site because you have a lot
2:33:28of property. It's quite divided up. And
2:33:32so the thing that's most exciting to me
2:33:34is the role that this development is
2:33:38doing establishing a streetscape
2:33:41connectivity for the pedestrians and
2:33:44bikes. Um and so that is something that
2:33:48you know I clearly the staff is really
2:33:49paying attention to that and I think
2:33:51it's an incredible opportunity here. We
2:33:53know how important especially bicycle
2:33:54safety is. So to have a place to really
2:33:57showcase
2:33:59that from the ground up a bit is is very
2:34:01cool. Um I am still kind of quite
2:34:04interested in the conquered a
2:34:06improvements happen as part of the
2:34:07agreements. I'm still quite interested
2:34:09in as you phase it out how does it
2:34:12sequence right to make sure that that
2:34:15it's if you do a development that's back
2:34:17near the tracks there is a really good
2:34:20ped and and bike connection through
2:34:21there. Um the thing about the phasing
2:34:25that throws me a little bit is something
2:34:28that um you know I've been asked a lot
2:34:30of questions about this but so if there
2:34:32are comments you know I I'm I'm open to
2:34:34that as well. The open space to me it
2:34:37feels like the big move here is your
2:34:39streetscapes. It's that's your big
2:34:42public realm and it seems there are kind
2:34:46of three parks and what throws me or
2:34:48it's kind of indicative is your phasing
2:34:50does Ben Park in two phases. That in
2:34:53itself suggests a bit of a fragmented
2:34:55approach to that open space. Um and so I
2:34:58think since the last time we saw it, I
2:34:59still see it's almost like I see con I I
2:35:03see evidence of conversations maybe with
2:35:04the city and and community about what
2:35:06they want to see here. Like does someone
2:35:08want a basketball court? Someone wants a
2:35:10dog park, someone wants playground, but
2:35:12it's almost like you've so
2:35:13overdistributed it, there's not a there
2:35:16there in any of them. Um, and so
2:35:19it's the public realm that in the longer
2:35:22term, both the streetscapes having
2:35:24identity, right? Because you guys have
2:35:26like Bend Park, but isn't Smith Street
2:35:30just as iconic, going to be just as
2:35:32iconic, right? Um, and so the thing I'm
2:35:35kind of curious about more so I I prompt
2:35:38this as maybe the beginning of
2:35:39conversation because we didn't ask
2:35:41questions about and I'm kind of curious
2:35:42about my um colleagues your thoughts on
2:35:46um the public realm and how
2:35:50how a a vision that's not totally clear
2:35:53on that. How does that sustain when it's
2:35:55all going to be built out in parcels?
2:35:56Right? So isn't there a great risk and
2:35:58this is maybe to the city as well. Isn't
2:35:59there a great risk of it end up ending
2:36:02up feeling um like the open space is
2:36:04residual space? Um and so that's kind of
2:36:08why I'm opening and and obviously, you
2:36:10know, you guys don't have that in
2:36:12between of the diagonal parks. So you
2:36:13can't, you know, like I get it. You
2:36:15can't you can't do that. At the same
2:36:17time, it's almost like
2:36:20I can't tell either one.
2:36:22Um,
2:36:26when you do have that center, whoever
2:36:27develops that, how do these two pieces
2:36:29relate to each other? Because it then
2:36:31feels like if you imagine that
2:36:33connection, all of a sudden you have a
2:36:34small playground here, a small
2:36:35playground there. You have pavilions
2:36:37everywhere. I would urge that that kind
2:36:39of the trillium precedent for that
2:36:41little extra building. You have so many
2:36:43buildings. Don't take up open space with
2:36:45food and beverage. Let that be in the
2:36:47base of the building. Try to get it in
2:36:48the base of the building. Um, let trees
2:36:52be the shade, right? I feel like there's
2:36:54not a story here yet that speaks to me
2:36:56of this open space that is tree forward,
2:37:01right? Not lawn forward. So, that's kind
2:37:05of opening it up to everyone around that
2:37:07idea of the the public realm.
2:37:12>> Great. Thank you, Mary Mary Flynn.
2:37:17>> Uh, thank you, Mr. chair. Um I um
2:37:24there's so much about this plan that
2:37:25that I really do like. I it it's when we
2:37:28think back about the history of Alwife
2:37:30and the number of iterations of plans
2:37:32that we've gone through and the zoning
2:37:34processes and everything. Um I think
2:37:37this this plan just offers so much uh to
2:37:42the city and um and again everyone who
2:37:46worked on it is to be commended. Um, I
2:37:48don't disagree with with Mary at all.
2:37:50Um, I think to me that the open spaces
2:37:54are still needing something. It feels
2:37:57like it is very fragmented and I get
2:38:00again that it's spread over the
2:38:03properties because of the ownership
2:38:05pattern. Um, but I think you know the
2:38:08one positive, well, one of the many
2:38:11positive things that is going to happen
2:38:12going forward is that we're going to get
2:38:14to continue to review all of these
2:38:15things um through design review
2:38:18processes and perhaps there there could
2:38:20be more of a design process um and
2:38:25around the open space to give Mary and
2:38:28others a little bit more comfort as to
2:38:30the vision um where we're headed and
2:38:33then obviously that's going to be
2:38:34refined over time. But I think, you
2:38:36know, I'm very happy that the the
2:38:38housing is being um built up front, so
2:38:41much of it. Um I think that'll be a huge
2:38:43plus right now, particularly that we're
2:38:45in a critical housing shortage. Um I
2:38:48think the progress that you've made on
2:38:50both the bridge um and the terminal road
2:38:53connections are to be very highly
2:38:55commended um given all of the obstacles
2:38:58that um have stood between multiple uh
2:39:01proponents the city and and this actual
2:39:05and you guys and this actually being
2:39:06accomplished. So um my kudos to you and
2:39:10keep up the great work because you're
2:39:12doing great but you're not done. So keep
2:39:14at it. Um, I also, um, applaud the TDM
2:39:18measures. I think, you know, they're
2:39:20very thorough, very stringent. Um,
2:39:24I was happy to see the interim um,
2:39:30uh, recommendations for Conquered
2:39:32Avenue, particularly things like the bus
2:39:34shelters because I think, you know, more
2:39:35and more people will be taking the buses
2:39:38and it's, I think, important to have,
2:39:41you know, fairly reasonably sized and
2:39:44covered bus shelters all along that
2:39:46stretch. Um, I also am very pleased with
2:39:50the ongoing community process that um
2:39:53that you've proposed. Um, I think it's
2:39:57going to bring even more vitality um and
2:40:00uh to that area, not only because of the
2:40:02types of uses, but because of the
2:40:04community involvement
2:40:06um and the sort of meshing of the two,
2:40:08you know, meeting the need and getting
2:40:10people excited about what's going to be
2:40:11there for them. Um so you know obviously
2:40:16we have many years to go till we hit the
2:40:18uh the end of the buildout
2:40:22timeline and I doubt some of us will be
2:40:24here to see it but um it's nice to know
2:40:27that we are you know embarking on the
2:40:29that first phase finally after so so
2:40:32many years. So um I am uh prepared to
2:40:36give the uh the final determination a
2:40:40positive vote this evening. Um, that's
2:40:43it. Thank you.
2:40:44>> Great. Thank you, Marian. Somebody else,
2:40:50>> Ashley.
2:40:55>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, so yeah, thank
2:40:58you so much for the proponent. Um, I'm
2:41:01sure it seems like you guys did a lot of
2:41:03hard work over the last few months and
2:41:05also to the city staff. I know you guys
2:41:07worked really, really hard the last few
2:41:09months, too. So, um, it's It it's a
2:41:13really reassuring to be here tonight and
2:41:16see both the model and also a lot more
2:41:19refined and detailed plans. I think last
2:41:22time just the lack of detail was and um
2:41:25I guess there were a lot of things that
2:41:26needed to be hashed out so it was more
2:41:29concerning but uh I'm glad
2:41:33about the number or the amount of
2:41:35neighborhood uses on New Main Street. I
2:41:38think that would really help with
2:41:40traffic and just enlivening this area
2:41:43which this area really needs. Um really
2:41:46appreciate the new I think are called
2:41:48micro fields. Um
2:41:51we
2:41:53we had like a tour of the
2:41:56area a few years ago and I vividly
2:42:00remember random families playing soccer
2:42:03with their children in front of lab
2:42:05buildings because there's no place to
2:42:06play. And so I'm excited to see that um
2:42:09there will be areas where uh families
2:42:12who move into these buildings can
2:42:14enjoy. And thank you so much for you
2:42:18know looking more carefully at the TDM
2:42:20measures.
2:42:22you know, this is a huge number of
2:42:24parking and that are all going through
2:42:28basically one road, which today on plan
2:42:31looks a little shocking because uh
2:42:34conquered isn't doesn't seem that to
2:42:36have that many lanes. Um and so say at
2:42:40the TDM measures gives us that
2:42:43reassurance that hopefully as time goes
2:42:45on there'll be less parking um less
2:42:49crowding on conquered and um to that
2:42:53point I was going to point out um I know
2:42:57in the I can't remember what it's called
2:42:59that the DOT memo there was a point
2:43:03about
2:43:05um I think it was like around $2 million
2:43:08dollars of a contribution to the city
2:43:10for studying conquered a to be I think
2:43:14it was to be
2:43:16um I think it was conditioned at the
2:43:18first or maybe the final condition uh co
2:43:23of the first commercial building
2:43:25something to that effect but uh I guess
2:43:28one suggestion I had was maybe to tie
2:43:32that to instead of the final seal in
2:43:35case
2:43:36you know there is ever a tenant or you
2:43:39know it's five years or 10 years later
2:43:40where there's a tenant so maybe tie it
2:43:41to the first CO so that we can the city
2:43:44can actually get the funds to start
2:43:46studying conquered a so that's one
2:43:48suggestion I had um and then I'm glad to
2:43:52hear there's been talks of Eversource
2:43:55about terminal road I think that'll be
2:43:57great and just an encouragement to
2:43:59please continue with that conversation I
2:44:02think that'll be greatly needed
2:44:03especially if the pedestrian bridge
2:44:05cannot happen for who knows how many
2:44:08years. Um, and lastly, I actually was
2:44:13hoping to see more on the list of
2:44:15neighborhood uses. I guess another
2:44:17anecdote was um I still remember a few
2:44:20years ago a lot of people on the same
2:44:21team had to come and try to tell us to
2:44:25um
2:44:27permit a or allow a ice cream store and
2:44:31which seems like a ridiculous thing that
2:44:33you guys have to come for an amendment
2:44:35to do that. So, and I guess my thought
2:44:37was, you know, whatever that could be
2:44:40added to this list of neighborhood uses
2:44:41now. Um, and I the list seemed shorter
2:44:45than usual. I think they were trying to
2:44:47be broad, but you know, if there is a
2:44:49way to include groceries, um, daycarees
2:44:54and I know there are like vet daycarees
2:44:56around the area or even just exper what
2:45:00are they called? like the se um bars in
2:45:02seapport where they have experimental or
2:45:04experiential uses. Um anything to so
2:45:08that for your um for the proponent's
2:45:10sake that you don't have to make so many
2:45:12trips back to the planning board. I
2:45:13think that would be good and also um
2:45:16give the proponent more ways to add life
2:45:19to the neighborhood. So that's just
2:45:20another suggestion as well. But
2:45:22otherwise, same [clears throat] with um
2:45:25Mary. I'm definitely in support. Thank
2:45:27you.
2:45:30Great. Thank you, Ashley. Diego.
2:45:33>> Um, I just reiterate appreciation this
2:45:37amazing project that you all put
2:45:39together and answering all the questions
2:45:41and the staff memos. It's really hard
2:45:44to, you know, think of questions. I
2:45:46mean, your mechanisms for parking are
2:45:48really amazing. I think it's it's great
2:45:50to see them go down, right? um uh to
2:45:54Mary Lee Decker's point of open space
2:45:58and I agree with it. Um but I actually
2:46:01felt the same way about the
2:46:02architecture. I was really just I mean I
2:46:06think it says something that it makes me
2:46:07excited to see the design review process
2:46:09for all of these buildings and see some
2:46:11of the comments like the building R2
2:46:13with Bend Park and see how that comes
2:46:14together to form this space that
2:46:16connects to the main street. Um, I think
2:46:20that's I'm really looking forward to
2:46:22that. I'm hoping that we get some really
2:46:23unique architecture, some great art
2:46:25pieces that make some of these spaces
2:46:27more alive and part of the community.
2:46:30Um,
2:46:32I think I I I agree with like approving
2:46:35everything. The the only thing I'm not
2:46:37sure of right now, I didn't see too
2:46:39much. I heard someone mention the senior
2:46:40housing was unit counts. I I hope
2:46:42there's a lot of diversity in unit
2:46:44counts. a lot of three bedrooms,
2:46:45studios, uh intergenerational housing. I
2:46:48think anytime that's part of a
2:46:50development or a building, it's really
2:46:52successful. Um but yeah, uh thank you so
2:46:55much.
2:46:57>> Great. Thank you, Diego
2:47:00Carolyn.
2:47:01>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. [clears throat] Um
2:47:03and we're all going to say this
2:47:05probably, but thank you all very much
2:47:06for all of the iterating. I really
2:47:08appreciate all of the work that you and
2:47:09your team have put into it. Thank you to
2:47:11the city staff for all of the work that
2:47:13you all have put into it. I don't I
2:47:14think for me this is the first project
2:47:16that we've gotten a memo from as many
2:47:17departments as we have. Um but they're
2:47:20really really helpful. So thank you. Um
2:47:26um I really appreciate the work on the
2:47:27district energy. I hope that happens. It
2:47:29tell them make it happen. Um I really
2:47:34appreciate the proposed reduction in
2:47:36parking. I really hope that happens as
2:47:38well.
2:47:40um
2:47:42and and all the little shifts to the to
2:47:44the site plan. I think you guys have
2:47:45have really um improved it from the last
2:47:47time we saw it. Um
2:47:50I Mary um had some great points about
2:47:53the open space. I that's I was trying
2:47:55she was much more eloquent than I was,
2:47:57but that was essentially what I was
2:47:58trying to get at with my concern about
2:47:59the um open space in the Northwest
2:48:02Quadrant. it doesn't feel impactful
2:48:05enough or um public and special and and
2:48:09special enough for this amazing site. Um
2:48:13and I I I had the same comment not to
2:48:15put buildings or shade structures in the
2:48:18parks. Um trees and natural shade is a
2:48:23big part of resiliency, right? And we
2:48:25need this site to have I know they're
2:48:29you've essentially need to get rid of a
2:48:32lot of mature trees. Um but to whatever
2:48:35degree you can replant mature trees um
2:48:39and and really have trees provide that
2:48:41shade would be great.
2:48:45Um,
2:48:47the only other comment that I had was
2:48:48that the design re the note in the
2:48:50conditions I think says that designer
2:48:52review approval is prior to issuance of
2:48:54building permits. I encourage you to
2:48:55come sooner than later. Um,
2:48:59building permits is pretty late in the
2:49:00design review process. Um, so if you're
2:49:02seeking approvals, sooner is better than
2:49:05later in my opinion. Thank you.
2:49:08>> Great. Thank you, Ted.
2:49:11Well, I too applaud all the work that's
2:49:15been done by the proponents and all of
2:49:17their experts and all everybody in the
2:49:20city departments. I mean, I think you've
2:49:22really done an excellent job. Um,
2:49:27you know, I it it's difficult to create
2:49:31a neighborhood and I know that's what
2:49:34you're trying to do. And uh from my
2:49:38point of view what what will be
2:49:41significant is what you can put in the
2:49:44public spaces. You know if there are
2:49:47markets if there are barber shops if
2:49:49there are places for people to go to to
2:49:52buyarmacies and doing things so that
2:49:55they don't have to cross fresh pond and
2:49:57go to the the shopping center. Uh I am
2:50:02less concerned about the lack of larger
2:50:07open spaces given the proximity of uh
2:50:12Fresh Pond and Rafferty Park and Danahe
2:50:15Park. Um you know this is somebody who
2:50:18grew up in a row house where our
2:50:20playground was the concrete driveway in
2:50:23the back or the batuminous playground at
2:50:26my elementary school. Um, so I think you
2:50:31know for uh climate change what we
2:50:34really need is the trees and the shade
2:50:37and I'm less cons I think kids will find
2:50:40a way and I hope there are a lot of kids
2:50:42here and I hope the issue I was just
2:50:45discussing with Diego was where they
2:50:47going to want to go to school. um which
2:50:51I think will be an interesting issue for
2:50:53the city if indeed you get 2,300
2:50:56you know units and you get a number of
2:50:59kids. Um
2:51:02but I I think kids will find a way to
2:51:05play there or or go someplace where they
2:51:08can play in addition to the the the the
2:51:12areas here. Uh I of course would like to
2:51:16see the bridge tomorrow.
2:51:19Um, but I am really delighted at what
2:51:22the secretar's letter says and delighted
2:51:26to hear that Terminal Road, uh,
2:51:28Eversource seems to be committed to
2:51:30something there, too. I think they will
2:51:33really help make this
2:51:36um you know I was uh involved in
2:51:41Cambridge crossing late in the day and
2:51:44when they built the pedestrian and bike
2:51:46bridge over there it was like oh now I
2:51:49understand it this really can work.
2:51:51People will want to live here and work
2:51:54in the north end or someplace else in
2:51:57downtown Boston. And I think the bridge
2:52:00and terminal roads extension will really
2:52:03be somewhat similar to that here. Um we
2:52:07we know how terrible it is to drive on
2:52:10Fresh Pond Parkway at several times
2:52:13during the day and conquered a obviously
2:52:16going to be difficult too. But if we
2:52:20want to see this developed,
2:52:22you know, with it's it's it's going to
2:52:25require um you know, everybody
2:52:28understanding what's going to happen and
2:52:30the the plans for conquered a seem to be
2:52:34a good plan.
2:52:36uh and who knows where we are 2030 years
2:52:40from now in terms of vehicles and size
2:52:43of vehicles and what people are driving
2:52:45and what personal
2:52:48uh things they are using. Um so I'm you
2:52:52know really quite content with what's
2:52:55here. Um I I think with the parking
2:52:58garages
2:53:00um it would be nice if you could put
2:53:02things on the the roofs. Um, you know, I
2:53:06know places where they've got tennis
2:53:08courts or maybe pickle ball courts or uh
2:53:11even grass for kids to go up there and
2:53:14run around and do things. Um, you know,
2:53:17I think the uh again down in in Kendall,
2:53:22the the public garden up on the roof is
2:53:25a great neighborhood facility and a
2:53:29great place to go. And so some things
2:53:32like that can happen here. I know in
2:53:35your comments you say, "Well, it's
2:53:37difficult both in terms of cost and
2:53:40structure. Uh, but maybe there are
2:53:42things that can be put up that aren't
2:53:44that ownorous from your point of view
2:53:47that would really help make this a a a
2:53:50neighborhood and a place for people to
2:53:52congregate. Um, but I'm really quite
2:53:56content with what you've done and what
2:53:58the city has done too. And so I I
2:54:02congratulate you for that and I hope I'm
2:54:05around to see some of it come to
2:54:07fruition,
2:54:12>> Dan.
2:54:13>> Sure. Um just a very few comments. So
2:54:17thank you very much. Um I think as a
2:54:20development and urban design framework,
2:54:23um this satisfies me and I think works
2:54:26remarkably well. Um, as my board members
2:54:29have pointed out, the devil is in the
2:54:31details, but we'll we'll get to those
2:54:32when we get to them. Um, just
2:54:35[clears throat] I think supporting a
2:54:37couple of pieces. Um, the activation,
2:54:40the the uses that Ashley mentioned is
2:54:42going to be enormously important whether
2:54:44it's a restaurants or movie theaters or
2:54:46things that really make this a vibrant
2:54:48place. The balance between active and
2:54:52passive landscape and and recreation is
2:54:55also important. And I I I do um side
2:54:59with Mary a little bit that right now it
2:55:01feels fragmented, but I think it's
2:55:02because you can only control what you
2:55:04can control. So what I would encourage
2:55:07on that front is the kind of
2:55:08collaborative um conversations you've
2:55:11been having with the butters. Properties
2:55:13turn over, things can happen jointly.
2:55:16There's this sets a um a precedent and a
2:55:19catalyst for maybe um more cohesive
2:55:23landscape to happen. um possibly um
2:55:27otherwise uh I think that the district
2:55:30energy piece is enormously important um
2:55:33from a sustainability part from a
2:55:35long-term investment and viability. So I
2:55:39really want to um to see how the city
2:55:41might be able to support that how the
2:55:43board can support that how that can fit
2:55:45into your plans. Um otherwise um very
2:55:49satisfied with it and happy to to uh to
2:55:51vote in support.
2:55:53Thank you, Dan. So, I guess that Oh,
2:55:56Mary, please take another swing.
2:55:59>> I'm a big fan of the follow-up comment.
2:56:01Um, I did want to recognize I I really
2:56:04like the way that the I know it's
2:56:05preliminary, but the design of the PD
2:56:07bridge, I think even from a starting
2:56:09point, I've done PED bridges over over
2:56:11rails. If you can stay with that kind of
2:56:14industrial vibe and straightforward, I
2:56:16feel like it's much more resilient to
2:56:18all the requirements you're going to
2:56:20get. but also it really speaks to the
2:56:22industrial heritage of this site. So to
2:56:24me that felt we talked about it last
2:56:26time the placemaking that feels like
2:56:28it's of this place and I'm hoping that
2:56:30that can kind of drift more and more
2:56:31into um you know everything else as it
2:56:34comes back because I think as everyone
2:56:36said it's like every piece will come
2:56:37back so we'll get these chances to
2:56:39review it. Um the other thing I want to
2:56:40clarify is I think the open space is
2:56:43fragmented but I don't think that means
2:56:45they're too small. I think it just means
2:56:47each of them has an opportunity to have
2:56:49an identity, right? Like Gateway Park,
2:56:52that could be like a destination
2:56:54playground. The sort of thing people
2:56:56drive to in Cambridge to spend half a
2:56:58day. Um the one up and this is the most
2:57:01challenging the upper west northwest
2:57:03that's really hard because you have all
2:57:05offices around and you know what we
2:57:06didn't talk about today? There are
2:57:08people other than residences. there are
2:57:10people who are working here and as we
2:57:11all know especially with lab-based
2:57:13development which we want you to get
2:57:14back to you know with the market the
2:57:17public realm can be a value driver right
2:57:20people want to be in a space where they
2:57:21can go outside and work together we know
2:57:23Kendall Square Cambridge crossing we
2:57:26have the best precedence for that and so
2:57:28this is where there's this but we all
2:57:29see it it's like this back area and
2:57:31you're kind of like well how is that the
2:57:34next Kendall Square or something like
2:57:36that's what you're trying to get it to
2:57:37be um If zoning was nothing, I'd say
2:57:41make two of those buildings taller, make
2:57:43the C5 and C6 shorter for the
2:57:45neighborhood. That's up to the city. Um,
2:57:49but I think that's kind of what I'm
2:57:50getting at is let the spaces
2:57:53have a vision because I think you'll get
2:57:55people who want to develop it, you know,
2:57:57like or want to buy into that more
2:57:58excited about them. Um, and the dog park
2:58:02on the back side of the um parking lot
2:58:05P1, I don't know. It's so far for the
2:58:08residences. It's I I don't know. But but
2:58:11you do need dog parks. You will need dog
2:58:13parks. So that's my followup. Thank you.
2:58:19>> Great. So I guess it's my turn. Um
2:58:23I join my fellow board members in
2:58:24thanking uh the proponent and staff and
2:58:27actually my fellow board members as well
2:58:28for their perseverance here. I did not
2:58:31attend the last hearing, but just for
2:58:33the record, I did watch planning board
2:58:35TV for 3 hours 22 minutes and 56
2:58:38seconds. Um, I can assure you that you
2:58:41all look much much better in real life
2:58:43than you do on a laptop um in my living
2:58:47room. So, um, I'm deeply imshed in the
2:58:51details of what we've seen tonight. Now
2:58:54also uh with some humility we're
2:58:56projecting forward upwards of 30 years
2:59:00uh trying to imagine a future and uh I
2:59:03don't want don't feel like we can
2:59:05dictate it in too great detail. We will
2:59:08have design review for each of the
2:59:11buildings and also the parking garages
2:59:14in light of public comment and
2:59:16correspondence from neighbors and a
2:59:18butters to some of those garages. Um uh
2:59:22I know it's tough to be looking at this
2:59:23proposal, but uh we're looking at a
2:59:26future which might have a a a rapid
2:59:29transit stop here which would make
2:59:31parking redundant. And so who knows what
2:59:34size that that garage may be. I will
2:59:37also um uh note that Mr. man Freddy on
2:59:41the record at least in the video said
2:59:43that uh at a question about the garages
2:59:46that he considers the garages to be
2:59:47architecture and real buildings and um
2:59:52uh I hope he's still here in 30 years to
2:59:54design them. Um but that is I would
2:59:57consider u part of the record here that
3:00:00the expectation is that those will be
3:00:02highquality uh buildings and sensitive
3:00:04to uh the needs of their abutters. um
3:00:10you listened um based on that detailed
3:00:14review of the last hearing. you listened
3:00:16and that it
3:00:19I I can't tell you how much I appreciate
3:00:21that these are long and difficult
3:00:23hearings and you wonder whether all the
3:00:25effort is worth it and get the echo and
3:00:28the reflection back from a proponent
3:00:30that um uh structures his whole
3:00:33presentation on the ways in which the
3:00:35plan has evolved based on feedback from
3:00:38staff and us um uh is uh is wonderful.
3:00:43It's a verification of the process that
3:00:45so many of us spend a lot of time uh
3:00:48working on. So, thank you for that. Um
3:00:52uh design review comes next. Yes. But to
3:00:56um Mary Leeer's plea about the open
3:00:59space, I'll tell this story. The
3:01:02planning board uh from time to time is
3:01:05hosted by staff to go look at districts
3:01:06where we've had um the ability to shape
3:01:10them and uh plan previous iterations of
3:01:14the planning board probably weren't as
3:01:16harsh or as pointed in their design
3:01:20review as perhaps this board is but um
3:01:23so the quality of the buildings were
3:01:25questionable and this was up in Aew wife
3:01:28um but the district is magnificent and
3:01:31for uh and something to be extremely
3:01:34proud of. And a big part of that is the
3:01:39amount of trees uh that are planted in
3:01:42and around with some buildings which are
3:01:44you know for good reason are not aging
3:01:47that well or um uh were built rapidly
3:01:51and uh the trees seem to solve
3:01:54everything. So uh don't put more
3:01:57buildings in the open space. plant a lot
3:01:59a lot a lot of trees. Both Carolyn and
3:02:02Mary I know are with me on that. So I
3:02:05have no issue. I think the uh the uh PUD
3:02:10proposal before us uh sets the
3:02:13groundwork for what will be a very very
3:02:15successful extension of this magnificent
3:02:18city. Now um that said those are my
3:02:20comments. We have a little bit of work
3:02:22to do because we're going to make
3:02:23findings um and you'll have to bear with
3:02:26me. I'm going to read uh out of the
3:02:28staff memo u and I'll ask you from time
3:02:31to time whether you agree with uh uh
3:02:34whether we can make the findings on
3:02:35those sections. Um so I'll do that. I
3:02:38will also um uh get to the conditions as
3:02:42well. Um and I'm presuming I'm feeling a
3:02:46consensus that there we're moving
3:02:48towards a motion to grant um the PUD um
3:02:53here tonight. So, uh,
3:02:56there's consensus, I think, around that
3:02:58sentiment. So, with no further ado, I'm
3:03:01going to, uh, read, um,
3:03:05the following. In order to grant the
3:03:06special permits, the board will need to
3:03:08make find that the proposal meets the
3:03:10following criteria.
3:03:14um that the PUD development plan
3:03:17contains the modifications or
3:03:19improvements requested in the
3:03:20preliminary determination,
3:03:23that it continues to meet the criteria
3:03:25for approval of a preliminary
3:03:26determination,
3:03:28conforms with the development controls
3:03:30in the zoning ordinance, conforms with
3:03:33adopted policy plans or development
3:03:35guidelines for the area, and provides
3:03:38benefits to the city which outweigh its
3:03:40adverse effects. Does anybody have any
3:03:42difficulty making that finding? No one
3:03:45indicates such. Secondly, the proposal
3:03:48supports the purpose of AOD-Q
3:03:51district. See appendix in the zoning
3:03:54text expert excerpts is generally
3:03:57consistent with the vision and goals of
3:03:58Envision Awife district plan of 2019 and
3:04:02the principles of the Aewife zoning
3:04:04working group of 2023.
3:04:07It is in general conformance with the
3:04:09Elway design guidelines of 2023 and the
3:04:12citywide urban design objectives in
3:04:14section 1930
3:04:16of this zoning ordinance and advances
3:04:19the intent of those guidelines.
3:04:22Everybody uh feeling they can make that
3:04:24finding. Everybody indicates such that
3:04:27the phasing plan ensures the district
3:04:29purpose will be met without development
3:04:31providing uses and public benefits in a
3:04:34balanced manner. Can we make that
3:04:36finding? Yes.
3:04:38The uses to be exempted are located and
3:04:40designed in a way to ensure long-term
3:04:42adherence to the purpose of AOD-Q
3:04:46district. Yes.
3:04:52That the provisions of parking in a
3:04:55poolled facility one advances relevant
3:04:57objectives of the Elwite district plan.
3:04:59Two, aids in implementation of effective
3:05:02transportation demand management
3:05:04measures to reduce dependence on the
3:05:06single occupancy automobile. Three, is
3:05:10appropriately located to serve the
3:05:12development and four is welld
3:05:14designigned and not diminish the
3:05:16pedestrian friendly quality of the area
3:05:18around it consistent with the alewife
3:05:20design guidelines. Can we make that
3:05:22finding? Yes. The purpose proposed
3:05:25waiver to off- streetet loading
3:05:27requirements allows design and use that
3:05:30reduces the negative impacts of loading
3:05:32activities on the public realm. Can we
3:05:34make that finding? Yes. The location and
3:05:37function of the major infrastructure
3:05:39component supports the vision of the
3:05:41alewife district plan and will be
3:05:44designed and constructed in an
3:05:46appropriate manner.
3:05:48Make that finding.
3:05:50The project will have no substantial
3:05:52adverse impact on the city traffic
3:05:54within the study area upon review of the
3:05:57traffic impact indicators analyzed in
3:05:59the transportation impact study and
3:06:02mitigation efforts proposed.
3:06:05Then the and that the project is
3:06:06consistent with the urban design
3:06:08objectives of the city as set forth in
3:06:10section 19.3.0
3:06:12zero. Um, in the in our ordinance,
3:06:19uh, we can make that finding that
3:06:22neighborhood uses that are provided in
3:06:24locations that are not at the ground
3:06:26story or have direct access to a public
3:06:29sidewalk or open space are proposed at a
3:06:32location that better serves the intent
3:06:34of the applicable zoning for intended
3:06:37use. This is a little bit of a
3:06:39complicated one coming at the 11th hour.
3:06:41Jeff made me aware of and let me see if
3:06:45I can get this right. Um there is an
3:06:47existing healthc care use on the site.
3:06:50Um in order to maintain that we need to
3:06:53make this finding and maybe just briefly
3:06:56counselor if you could explain what this
3:06:58is all about.
3:06:59>> You did a very good job. This is
3:07:00specifically 725 conquered which I'm a
3:07:03patron of. A very popular general office
3:07:07building in the neighborhood that
3:07:08residents have expressed concern about
3:07:10maintaining not just at at ground floor
3:07:14medical, excuse me, but at every floor.
3:07:17Um it's primary care which is you know a
3:07:21very um wellrespected and important uh
3:07:25neighborhood use. It is an allowed
3:07:27neighborhood use. We're not counting
3:07:30that building towards our 3%
3:07:31requirement, but because there are above
3:07:34grade neighborhood uses, we need a
3:07:36finding that those uses above grade
3:07:38would be considered part of our overall
3:07:41neighborhood uses, not not as part of
3:07:44the 3% requirement.
3:07:45>> Okay. Are we comfortable making that
3:07:47finding as been described? Everybody
3:07:50indicates such
3:07:53that the proposed development and all
3:07:54relevant buildings are designed to meet
3:07:56the intent of the standards in a manner
3:07:58more suitable to the unique conditions
3:08:00of the development parcel.
3:08:04Yeah, we can make that finding. And
3:08:06lastly, um these are the uh urban design
3:08:12section. Section special permits will be
3:08:14normally granted if the zoning
3:08:16requirements are met unless it is found
3:08:18not to be in public interest due to one
3:08:20of the following criteria. A it appears
3:08:23that the requirements of this ordinance
3:08:25cannot be or will not be met or B.
3:08:28traffic generated or patterns of access
3:08:30and egress would cause congestion,
3:08:32hazard or substantial change in
3:08:34established neighborhood character. C
3:08:37the continued operation of or the
3:08:40development of adjacent uses is
3:08:42permitted in the zoning ordinance would
3:08:43be adversely affected by the nature of
3:08:45the proposed use or D nuisance or hazard
3:08:49would be created to the detriment to the
3:08:50health, safety and/or welfare of the
3:08:52occupant of the proposed use or the
3:08:55citizens of the city. E, for other
3:08:57reasons, the proposed use would impair
3:09:00the integrity of the district or
3:09:02adjoining district or otherwise derogate
3:09:04from the intent or purpose of this
3:09:05ordinance. And F, the new use or
3:09:08building construction is consistent with
3:09:10the urban design objectives set forth in
3:09:13section 19.3.0.
3:09:16So I think we can make that general
3:09:18special permit criteria finding. Yes.
3:09:21Okay, Jeff, have I made the correct the
3:09:27cataloged all the findings in your
3:09:29opinion?
3:09:29>> Yeah, th those I believe are all the
3:09:31findings and it's, you know, the
3:09:32combination of the findings in the
3:09:34particular district, the AODQ zoning as
3:09:37well as some of the general special
3:09:39permits like the project review special
3:09:40permit. Those are all covered in in that
3:09:43set that you read.
3:09:46>> Okay.
3:09:48I just want to ask one more time. Did
3:09:49any board members have concern in making
3:09:51any of those findings?
3:09:53No one indicates such. Okay. The staff
3:09:57memo, we're going to go into some
3:09:58conditions here and we'll bundle it all
3:10:00in one vote. The staff memos contain
3:10:02suggested conditions to be included in
3:10:05the special permit decision. And there
3:10:07are also standard conditions for
3:10:09continuing review and certification by
3:10:11staff that the conditions are met.
3:10:14Um, so these are the boxed items in the
3:10:17memo that we all saw, right? Thank you
3:10:20for doing that. Whoever thought that
3:10:21that was a good way to call them out. I
3:10:24just want to ask the applicant uh if
3:10:26they're in general agreement. They've
3:10:28already stated on the record. I believe
3:10:29that they are in agreement with these
3:10:31conditions that and the and any further
3:10:33conditions that were discussed tonight
3:10:35or is there anything you want to discuss
3:10:37further with the board?
3:10:41>> Mr. Chair, we are and we do we are um
3:10:44okay with member Tian's suggestion about
3:10:47moving the study. Okay.
3:10:49>> It's part of mitigation, but just to get
3:10:51that out of the way, we are okay with
3:10:52that.
3:10:53>> Great.
3:10:53>> Mr. Rafidity will will handle the ice
3:10:55cream amendment later. I want to leave
3:10:57the complicated legal matters to him.
3:11:01All right.
3:11:04Okay.
3:11:05Uh, now based on those findings and
3:11:08those conditions, is there a motion to
3:11:10grant the required special permits? Yes.
3:11:12Sorry, Ted.
3:11:13>> Excuse Mr. Chair.
3:11:15>> So, those are the conditions um in the
3:11:18the draft draft conditions from staff.
3:11:21Do we are do they already encompass the
3:11:24conditions from uh traffic and parking
3:11:29and from public works?
3:11:33Uh that we were given some draft
3:11:36conditions there too. I I don't remember
3:11:38whether they're all encompassed in the
3:11:41staff memo.
3:11:42>> Uh this is Emily Hutchkins. Not all of
3:11:45them particularly in the DOT memo are
3:11:47encompassed. So I think we would
3:11:48recommend the adoption of the conditions
3:11:51in the CDD memo, the DOT memo and the
3:11:54DPW memo as well as the urban design uh
3:11:58appendix. Uh I do also want to note that
3:12:02um we raised two I think um
3:12:05non-concerning conditions uh related to
3:12:09725 conquered a just to make sure that
3:12:12it's clear that the above ground uh uses
3:12:16neighborhood uses are uh allowed to be
3:12:19counted as such. Um and to note that
3:12:21that will not impact the uh neighborhood
3:12:25uses that will be elsewhere on the site.
3:12:29Yeah, great. Thank you, Ted. When I said
3:12:31staff, I was using it in the grandest
3:12:34sense, but you're right. Thank you for
3:12:37um making that clear that uh all of the
3:12:40memos from the departments would be
3:12:42included as conditions and thank you
3:12:44Emily for that further clarification.
3:12:48Okay. Uh, is there a motion to grant the
3:12:51requested special permits with those
3:12:54conditions based on the board's finding
3:12:56the applicables permit the special
3:12:58permit criteria have been met? And if
3:13:01you could say your name, uh, if you're
3:13:04willing to make that motion.
3:13:09>> Hello.
3:13:10>> This is This is Mary. Um, I'll make the
3:13:14motion.
3:13:15>> Mary, thank you. And I'm looking for a
3:13:17second. Ted, I'll second.
3:13:21>> Great. Thank you, Jeff. A roll call um
3:13:23to grant the special permits
3:13:26>> on that motion. Ted Cohen,
3:13:28>> definitely. Yes.
3:13:30>> Mary Flynn,
3:13:32>> yes.
3:13:33>> Mary Lecker,
3:13:36>> yes.
3:13:37>> Diego MSAS,
3:13:38>> yes.
3:13:40>> Ashley Tan,
3:13:41>> yes.
3:13:42>> Carolyn Zern,
3:13:43>> yes.
3:13:45>> Thompson,
3:13:46>> yes. That's all members voting in favor.
3:13:51>> Okay, we have one more um issue to deal
3:13:54with here. If um the staff have
3:13:58requested that the applicant agree to a
3:14:01potential extension of the drafting a
3:14:03decision to November 13th or 20th. The
3:14:06staff expect to have that decision filed
3:14:10um before then. Is that is that
3:14:12something you're immunable to?
3:14:15Okay. So the applicant is amanable to
3:14:17the extension of time to file a decision
3:14:19that has been requested by the city
3:14:21staff. Is there a motion to agree to
3:14:23this extension by the planning board? I
3:14:25need looking for a a motion to grant the
3:14:28extension. Swathy, you have a detail.
3:14:30>> It would be helpful if you can announce
3:14:32the date so that we can record it. Thank
3:14:35you.
3:14:36>> So I I cited November 13th or 20th. You
3:14:40you would go for the 20th.
3:14:42>> 13th.
3:14:42>> You go for the 13th. Do we divide it in
3:14:44the Okay. Okay. 13th. 13th. It is
3:14:48November 13th.
3:14:51[clears throat]
3:14:52>> I'm sorry. Could you
3:14:54>> Could you do that for the record so that
3:14:56we can make sure the transcript has it?
3:14:59>> We confirm November 13th as an extension
3:15:01date. Great. Thank you. Okay. Uh the
3:15:06applicant is immunable to the extension
3:15:08of time which will move to dis uh I
3:15:12almost said December November 13th to
3:15:15file a decision as requested by city
3:15:17staff. I'm now looking for a motion from
3:15:19the planning board to accept the
3:15:20extension.
3:15:24>> This is Mary Lecker. Um make that
3:15:26motion.
3:15:27>> Great. Thank you Mary. And second
3:15:30>> this is Diego. Second.
3:15:31>> Thank you Diego. A roll call vote on the
3:15:34motion to extend.
3:15:35>> On that motion, uh Ted Cohen,
3:15:38>> yes.
3:15:39>> Mary Flynn,
3:15:40>> yes.
3:15:41>> Mary Liecker,
3:15:43>> yes.
3:15:44>> Diego MSAS,
3:15:45>> yes.
3:15:46>> Ashley Tan,
3:15:47>> yes.
3:15:48>> Carolyn Zern,
3:15:49>> yes.
3:15:50>> Thompson Aich,
3:15:51>> yes.
3:15:52>> That's all members voting in favor.
3:15:55>> Okay.
3:15:58Thank you. That concludes the business
3:16:00on our agenda. Unless there are
3:16:02additional comments from staff or from
3:16:04board members at this time.
3:16:08No one indicates such.
